Mar 24, 2025 County Council

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. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS THE MARCH 24TH MEETING OF BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL. I CALL ON THE MEETING TO ORDER.

PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE INVOCATION LED BY COUNCILMAN GERALD DAWSON. BUT IF I AND MY UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH IT SAYS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL PLEASE REMAIN STAND. LET US PRAY OUR FATHER AND OUR WE COME BEFORE YOU AT THIS VERY MOMENT JUST TO SAY THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE AND YOUR KINDNESS ALL OF YOUR TENDER MERCIES. THANK YOU GOD FOR BLESSING US TO SEE THIS DAY AND HAVING GUIDED US AND KEPT US AS WE WENT THROUGH THE DAY WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO ASSEMBLE HERE TODAY I PRAY YOUR FATHER GOD THAT YOU WOULD BLESS US THAT AS WE GO FORTH NOW TAKING CARE OF THE BUSINESS OF THIS AGENDA THAT WE WILL FOLLOW GOD WILL MAKE OUT OUR DECISIONS WISE AND PRUDENT TO THE NEEDS OF THE CONSTITUENTS THAT WE ALL SERVE.

BLESS US ALL FATHER GOD, THAT WE NOW WOULD BE THE PEOPLE THAT YOU CALL US ALL TO BE IN JESUS NAME I PRAY AMEN. AMEN. AMEN.

GOOD EVENING. THIS THIS MEETING WAS ADVERTISED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT APPROPRIATELY AND THIS IS CONFIRMED OUR OUR CLERK AT THIS

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

WE HAVE A MOTION BY MISS TAVERNER DO WE HAVE A SECOND O SECOND AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BARTHOLOMEW ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS AND WE HAVE PERSON ON LINE TONIGHT

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[6. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT]

COUNSEL WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE THIS EVENING SO WE'LL GO AND GET STARTED AND WE ARE GOING TO RECOGNIZE FOLKS ARE THAT WORK DOWN IN THE BLUFFTON AREA. SO AS WE GO AROUND TRY TO RECOGNIZE THOSE EMPLOYEES AS WELL. SO FIRST OFF FROM THE LIBRARY WE HAVE AC DUART EITHER IS IT I WORK OKAY. MY APOLOGIES MR. STEWART. SHE'S A LIBRARY SPECIALIST.

SHE'S BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS THREE YEARS IN SEPTEMBER AS A LIBRARY SPECIALIST IN YOUTH SERVICES AT THE BLUFFTON LIBRARY SHE FOCUSES ON EARLY LITERACY FOR AGES 0 TO 5 WITH STORYTIMES AND A PRESCHOOL PLAY PROGRAM THAT FOSTERS LEARNING THROUGH PLAY WITH CAREGIVERS. SHE LEADS ART PROGRAM THAT EXPLORES DIFFERENT ARTISTS AND THEIR WORK IN A TEEN HANGOUT TWICE A MONTH ALONG WITH THE LEGO CLUB READ TO A DOG EVENTS AND SATURDAY STORYTIMES A HIGHLIGHT FOR HER IS PROVIDING READERS ADVISORY AND HELPING YOUNG READERS FIND THAT FOSTER A LOVE OF READING HOPEFULLY GROW THROUGHOUT THEIR LIFETIME SOMETHING UNIQUE. YOU'RE FROM TEXAS BORN AND RAISED.

ALL RIGHT. PART ABOUT THE TEXANS. OKAY, GREAT.

SHE MISSES THE PEOPLE THERE AND THE FOOD EQUALLY. I LIKE THE BARBECUE AS WELL.

I HAVE TO. SHE'S READ ALL THE ORIGINAL NANCY DREW BOOKS, DOESN'T REMEMBER ALL THE DETAILS AS IT WAS MAYBE A FEW YEARS AGO A LITTLE BIT.

SHE'S TALENTED AT MAKING ALL OF HER OWN TUTUS. I MAKE MY OWN MY OWN TUTUS FOR PROGRAM AND SHE WEARS THEM FOR THE EVENTS AND I THINK ALSO YOU MAKE THEM FOR STAFF AND SOME OF WEAR THEM AS WELL. SO SO THAT'S GREAT. SO THANK YOU ANY ANY COMMENTS AND THANK YOU GUYS SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND WE'LL GET A QUICK PICTURE YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN CAN I ASK IS IS A DASHWOOD YES.

IN THIS AREA BARBECUES USUALLY ALL IN VINEGAR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BARBECUE.

IT'S A GOOD COKE OR A DRY RUB IN A LONG ONE. OKAY.

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NEXT WE HAVE MARIA PARMESAN I BELIEVE. YES.

AND SHE'S GOT FAMILY HERE AND IT'S YOUR HUSBAND A LITTLE BABY.

ANYONE ELSE? MOM AND SISTERS. WELL, IN THE BACK.

SO YOU'RE BIG CROWDS AND A BIG FAN CLUB SO IT'S GREAT. SO MARIA IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE CLERK. SHE'S BEEN WITH THE COUNTY IN APRIL WILL BE ONE YEAR SO YOU'RE COMING RIGHT UP ON THAT ANNIVERSARY. CONGRATULATE ME? SHE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THE BLUFFTON AS GENERAL CORRESPONDENCE.

SHE'S THE FIRST FRIENDLY FACE AND VOICE THAT ASSISTS CITIZENS SEEKING HELP WITH ALCOHOL AND DRUG ISSUES. OF COURSE MARIA'S HARDWORKING, RELIABLE AND SHOWS COMPASSION FOR OTHERS WHICH WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR AS A VITAL PART OF THE NEXUS CARE TEAM IS APPRECIATED BY OUR PATIENTS AND STAFF SOMETHING UNIQUE HE MOVED HERE TO THE BEAUTIFUL LITTLE COUNTRY WHEN YOU WERE 12 SO YOU. OKAY, GREAT. AND AND SHE'S GRATEFUL TO BE PART OF THE NEXUS CARE OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY TEAM SO WE YOU. ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? I'M SO GRATEFUL YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY I'M VERY THANK YOU GET UP GET INVOLVED PICTURE OBVIOUSLY IT OKAY NEXT WE HAVE AMBER SANDERS WITH THE LIBRARY.

THERE SHE IS. HI, AMBER AMBER. YOU'RE ALSO APPROACHING YOUR ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY ON JUNE 22ND. YES, THAT'S GREAT.

SO SUMMARY OF HER DUTIES SHE OVERSEES THE PROGRAMS COLLECTIONS AND SERVICES DESIGNED FOR CHILDREN, TEENS AND THEIR AT THE BLUFFTON BRANCH LIBRARY THIS INCLUDES SELECTING MANAGING AND EVALUATING BOOKS AND MATERIALS FOR YOUTH.

THIS TAKES A LOT OF TIME BUT IS HER FAVORITE PART OF THE JOB SHE LOVES SEEING THE LOOK ON A CHILD'S FACE AND THEY PICK UP A BOOK THAT WAS JUST ORDERED IN HERE.

THEY'RE EXCITED WHEN A BOOK THEY'VE BEEN WAITING ON HAS ARRIVED.

I CAN ACTUALLY REMEMBER THAT PRETTY EXCITING STUFF. ANOTHER IMPORTANT PART OF AMBERS WORK IS ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH AN EMPHASIS ON SPECIAL GROUPS SUCH AS POCKETFUL SUNSHINE IN A BILINGUAL FOCUS GROUPS IN WHICH SHE STRIVES TO MAKE FEEL WELCOME IN THE LIBRARY TO ENJOY THE RESOURCES THE LIBRARY HAS TO OFFER SOMETHING UNIQUE.

AMBER IS AN ARTIST SHE PAINTS AND PRINTS ON PIECES OF LINOLEUM AND HER FREE TIME.

OCCASIONALLY SHE TRAVELS AROUND THE STATE TO ART FAIRS AND FANDOM CONVENTIONS AND SELLING HER ART PIECES. SHE ALSO LIKES FAIRIES AND IRISH MYTHOLOGY AND CAN USUALLY BE SPOTTED AROUND THE LIBRARY ONE OF HER MANY DINOSAUR DUCKY OR PLANET THEMED COLLAR T SHIRTS THAT'S PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THE SHIRT ON YOUR SHIRT THERE YOU LOVE IT.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AND OFFER YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR WE'LL GET A PICTURE WHATEVER LIKE FEEL FREE OUT THERE COMMENTS. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT WELL THANK YOU AGAIN AND WE'LL GET A QUICK PICTURE AND K NOW WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A NEW MEMBER OF THE TEAM WHICH I THINK MANY OF YOU ALL MET IS ASHLEY GINSBURG OR SO COME ON UP ASHLEY YES. AS YOU ALL KNOW SHE WORKS FOR COUNSEL SO WE'RE EXCITED HAVE HER HERE. SHE'S BEEN ON BOARD ONE MONTH SO THAT'S GOOD.

ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO COUNTY COUNCIL WHAT CAN WE SAY RIGHT.

THAT ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF THINGS BUT SHE DOES HANDLE A RANGE CLERICAL AND ORGANIZATIONAL TASKS SUPPORT COUNSEL'S OPERATIONS DUTIES CAN VARY BUT GENERALLY INCLUDES SCHEDULING CALENDAR COMMUNICATION AND CORRESPONDENCE MANAGEMENT PREPARATION OF COUNSEL MATERIALS AND MUCH MORE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT ASHLEY TO SHARE SHE'S BEEN INVOLVED FOR 20 YEARS WITH CAMP.

IS THAT PART PRC WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION LOCATED IN CENTRAL WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA IT'S AN ALL VOLUNTEER POWERED NONPROFIT THAT PROVIDES AN OVERNIGHT SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM AND YEAR

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SO HOW MANY OF YOU VISITED SO FAR 33 WELL YOU'RE GETTING THERE.

THAT'S GOOD. SO WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU AND ANY COMMENTS.

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND I CAN'T TO WORK FOR SUCH AN AWESOME TEAM. THANKS SARAH. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE A PITTSBURGH STEELERS FAN.

I AM PITTSBURGH CFA. OH YEAH. I'M FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

SORRY TO MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER. MY HUSBAND THE CLEVELAND BROWNS FAN.

YEAH. NO, NO, I LIKE YOU. HERE WE GO.

TELL YOU THE ALL ALL RIGHT. LASTLY WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE A MEMBER OF THE COUNTY DETENTION CENTER, BRENDA BUSCH . SHE'S GOING TO BE RETIRING I'M NOT SURE FOR AN IMMEDIATE TONIGHT HERE SHE IS AND SO SHE'S BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR 25 YEARS AND FIVE MONTHS. SO IT'S A GOOD LONG TIME SUMMARY OF HER DUTIES.

SHE DOES AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN HER ROLE AS THE LIEUTENANT HER LEADERSHIP, DEDICATION AND ATTENTION TO DETAIL MADE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THE SMOOTH OPERATION OF THE DETENTION CENTER. SHE CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATES STRONG SKILLS IN SUPERVISING STAFF, MANAGING INMATE OPERATIONS AND ENSURING THAT ALL TASKS ARE COMPLETED EFFICIENTLY AND SAFELY WHETHER IT'S TRAINING NEW EMPLOYEES, MANAGING INMATE BEHAVIOR OR OVERSEEING CRITICAL FUNCTIONS LIKE BOOKING INMATE TRANSPORT OR EMERGENCY RESPONSES.

HER WORK PLAYS A CRUCIAL IN MAINTAINING A SECURE AND WELL-RUN FACILITY HER ABILITY TO MANAGE MULTIPLE RESPONSIBILITIES WHILE MAINTAINING HIGH STANDARDS OF PERFORMANCE IS TRULY IMPRESSIVE THE TIME AND EFFORT SHE DEDICATES THE DETENTION CENTER TEAM AND INMATES DO NOT GO UNNOTICED AND IS DEEPLY APPRECIATED BY EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE AND WE'VE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE YOU AS PART OF THE TEAM. YOU'RE WELCOME AND SOMETHING YOU NEED TO SHARE PUBLICLY SHE'S RECENTLY EMBRACED A NEW AND EXCITING CHAPTER IN HER LIFE AS SHE BECAME A PROUD GRANDMOTHER TO SIX WEEK OLD LUNA NOELLE BUSH.

IT'S BEST BEING A GRANDPARENT, ISN'T IT? SO WITH A HEART FULL OF JOY SHE'S MADE THE DECISION STEP AWAY FROM HER UNIFORM AND DEDICATE HER TIME TO CHERISHING THOSE PRECIOUS MOMENTS WITH THE NEWEST ADDITION TO HER FAMILY. SO WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. OH, OKAY. LIKE MAKING A COMMENT.

I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL AND THANK COLONEL AND THE KENNEDY CENTER.

MY FAMILY. I'M GOING TO MISS THEM. YEAH, WE'LL MISS YOU TOO.

WE'LL GET A QUICK PICTURE WITH YOU BEFORE YOU GO. YEAH.

OKAY. SUBJECT ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

[7. PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING MARCH AS WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH]

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS A PROCLAMATION MISS PAULA BROWN IS GOING TO PRESENT IT AND WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT IT TO THREE OUTSTANDING MEMBERS OF OUR COUNTY STAFF MISS PINKY AND MISS AUDRA AND MISS AMANDA CAN COME FORWARD.

HMM. THESE THESE YOUNG LADIES ARE LEADERS AND WE WANTED WE'RE DOING WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH BUT WE WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THREE PEOPLE WITHIN OUR STAFF THAT CARRY A LOAD FOR THE COUNTY GO AHEAD PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS WOMEN OF EVERY AGE RAISED IN OFFICES IT'S JUST ETHNICITY AND ECONOMIC BACKGROUND HAVE MADE HISTORY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE GROWTH AND STRENGTH OF OUR NATION AT HOME WORK AND THE COMMUNITY.

AND. WHEREAS MARCH 8TH WAS PROCLAIMED AS INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY IN THE RECOGNITION OF THE CONTRIBUTION OF WOMEN IN THE LABOR MOVEMENT AND THE INTERNATIONAL CONNECTIONS OF ALL WOMEN AND. WHEREAS THE FIRST WOMEN'S HISTORY WEEK WAS HELD IN 1978 UNDER UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE EDUCATION PASSPORT FORCE OF THE SONOMA COUNTY CALIFORNIA COMMISSION AND ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN AND WHEREAS IN 19 I KNOW IN 1987 CONGRESS ESTABLISHED WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH IN MARCH AS ANNUALLY

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WHEREAS, CELEBRATING WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH IN MARCH PROVIDES THE RESIDENTS OF COUNTY AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES, ORGANIZATIONS OR BUSINESSES NOW THEREFORE TO BE RESOLVED THAT COUNTY COUNCIL DOES HEREBY PROCLAIMS MARCH 2025 AS WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH UPDATED ON 24TH DAY OF MARCH 2025 SIGNED BY ALICE G.

HOWARD ALICE HOWARD CHAIR COUNTY COUNCIL AND I'M GOING TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU PINKY FOR YOUR OFFICE. THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, LADIES.

ALL YOU DO. THANK YOU WITH THE SAME THING YOU GET A TICKET, YOU GET A PICTURE. OH NO. YOU'RE FREE TO SPEAK.

OKAY? NOBODY WILL SAY ANYTHING BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE APPRECIATE IF I HAD KNOWN COLONEL GRANT WAS GOING TO BE HERE TONIGHT, I WOULD HAVE HAD HER PART OF THE GROUP TO THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE OUR CLERK TO SHOW THERE JUST SO TO CELEBRATE WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH THESE ARE SOME NOTABLE WOMEN FROM SOUTH THAT I FOUND BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THIS I'M FROM OHIO SO I'M GOING TO PUT UP ON THE SCREEN AND IT WILL BE ATTACHED. YOU MAY WANT TO MAKE THAT BIGGER.

I CAN'T EVEN READ THAT ANYWAY THESE A FEW NOTABLE WOMEN KIMBERLY CLARICE AIKEN WAS CROWNED AMERICA IN 1994 AND SHE USED HER PLATFORM TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS. CHARLOTTE SPEARS BASS WAS A JOURNALIST AND SOCIAL ACTIVIST WHO MADE HISTORY IN 1952 AS THE FIRST BLACK FEMALE VICE CANDIDATE.

HOW MANY PEOPLE KNEW THAT? NO, I DIDN'T. OKAY NOW I KNOW YOU KNOW MARY MCNALLY BETHUNE SO SHE WAS CREATED THE BETHUNE-COOKMAN UNIVERSITY AND SHE ALSO FOUNDED THE NATIONAL COUNCIL FOR WOMEN IN 1935. AND HER PORTRAIT CURRENTLY HANGS IN THIS SOUTH CAROLINA STATEHOUSE. YOU HAVE CARROLL O'CONNOR.

SHE WAS THE FIRST WOMAN TO SERVE AS A SOUTH CAROLINA CIRCUIT AND AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA SUPREME SUPREME COURT. ELIZABETH HOLLEY IN 1938 WAS THE FIRST WOMAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA ELECTED TO CONGRESS. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

NOW YOU ALL KNOW THE NEXT ONE VIOLA DAVIS. I DON'T REALLY NEED TO SAY MUCH ABOUT HER BUT SHE WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN TO ACHIEVE THE TRIPLE CROWN OF ACTING. THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY TRIPLE CROWN FOR HORSE RACING BUT EVIDENTLY IT'S FOR ACTING. SHE GOT AN ACADEMY AWARD, PRIMETIME EMMY AWARD AND TWO TONY AWARDS. AND SHE WAS ONE OF THE 100 MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE.

TWICE IN AND 17. YOU HAVE MARIAN WRIGHT EDELMAN ,AN ACTIVIST FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND CHILDREN'S RIGHTS AND SHE WAS ADMITTED THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN ADMITTED TO THE MISSISSIPPI BAR AFTER GOING TO YALE LAW SCHOOL AND SHE FOUNDED THE CHILDREN'S DEFENSE FUND WHICH WE'VE ALL HEARD OF THE NOTE SHE FOUNDED. SHE RECEIVED THE PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON. AND WE HAVE A DR. IRENE ELLIOT.

SHE EARNED A PH.D. UNIVERSITY OF NORTH AND FOUNDED THE CHAPTER DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION MARY GORDON ELLIS FIRST WOMAN TO SERVE IN SOUTH CAROLINA LEGISLA WITH HER ELECTION TO THE SENATE IN 1928. SO SHE DEFINITELY WAS A TRAILBLAZER AND.

HER PORTRAIT HANGS IN THE SENATE CHAMBER. DR. MATILDE ARABELLA EVANS, FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN LICENSED TO PRACTICE MEDICINE IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND SHE OPENED COLUMBIA'S FIRST HOSPITAL. SHANNON FAULKNER, FIRST FEMALE STUDENT TO ATTEND THE CITADEL IN 1994. WHAT IS AND SO SHE SET THE WAY FOR MACE WHO WENT TO VIETNAM. BUT WHAT WAS SAD HERE WAS IT WAS OBVIOUSLY ALL MALE DUE TO SIGNIFICANT HOSTILITY THAT SHE FACED. SHE ONLY LASTED ONE WEEK IN THE CORPS OF CADETS. HOWEVER, HER GRANT GROUNDBREAKING STORY PAVED THE WAY FOR FUTURE FEMALE CADETS. SARAH MAE FLEMING ONE YEAR BEFORE ROSA PARKS REFUSED GIVE UP HER SEAT ON A MONTGOMERY BUS. FLEMING SAT IN THE WHITES SECTION OF A BUS IN COLUMBIA AND WAS HARASSED BY THE DRIVER. SHE SUED S.C. AND G WHO OPERATED BUS AND SHE IS CALLED THE UNSUNG HERO OF RIGHTS FOR HER BRAVERY.

ALTHEA GIBSON SHATTERED RACIAL BARRIERS IN TENNIS. IN 1956 SHE WAS THE FIRST AMERICAN TO WIN A GRAND SLAM TITLE WITH WIMBLEDON THE FRENCH OPEN AND THE AUSTRALIAN OPEN

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SHE WROTE THE BOOK ON SOUTH CAROLINA'S HISTORY AND IT'S THE CITY'S HISTORY.

SHE WAS RECEIVED THE ORDER THE PALMETTO IN 1982. THE FIRST WOMAN TO RECEIVE SOUTH CAROLINA'S HIGHEST CIVILIAN AWARD. HONORABLE JEAN TALL, THE FIRST WOMAN JUSTICE OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA SUPREME COURT AND IN 2000 WAS NAMED CHIEF JUSTICE OF THAT COURT. AND YOU ALL KNOW THE LAST ONE ANGELA SINGLETON, VAN BUREN.

SHE AN HEIRESS AND THE DAUGHTER IN LAW OF MARTIN VAN BUREN WHO WAS OUR EIGHTH US PRESIDENT BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT'S WIFE DIED BEFORE HE TOOK OFFICE. HE NEVER REMARRIED AND ANGELICA ,THE ROLE OF THE FIRST LADY AT AGE OF 18. SO HAVE SOME REALLY STUNNING PEOPLE THAT SET THE MARK HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA FOR WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN. KIM, IT WOULD BE REMISS IF I DON'T MENTION TWO NAMES, THREE IN PARTICULAR. AGNES SHERMAN AND HELP ME IN MY MIND IS GOING FREE TO MITCHELL . THANK YOU.

BOTH WERE ELECTED FIRST FEMALE BLACK FEMALES ELECTED IN THE STATE OF SOUTH.

I BELIEVE I WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT BELIEF. SOMEBODY PROVE ME WRONG.

AND THERE'S ONE I'D LIKE TO MENTION WHICH WAS HARRIET KIESLING WHO WAS THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE. SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE FIRST JEWISH REPRESENTATIVE FEMALE IN THE STATE. NOT SURE I MEANT I STARTED TO MENTION HER NAME AS WELL FROM COUNTY? YES SO THERE WERE OVER 50 ON THE LIST BUT I KNEW YOU WOULDN'T LET ME GO 50. SO MAYBE NEXT YEAR I TO PICK THE ONES NOBODY KNEW.

[8. UPDATE ON THE ST. HELENA COMMUNITY GARDEN (HENRY FARM NORTH)]

OKAY. THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON THE SAINT HELENA GARDEN HENRY FARM NORTH . HI, HOW ARE YOU? IF YOU'LL SAY YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND TELL US ALL ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR. AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JENNY STEPHENS AND I HAVE THE PLEASURE BEING THE CEO OF THE CENTER FOR HEIRS PROPERTY PRESERVATION. IF WE GO BACK IN TIME ALMOST SIX YEARS AGO I PROBABLY WAS STANDING UP HERE BEFORE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT WE WERE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA CONSERVATION BANK BEEF AND OPEN LAND TRUST AND OF COURSE THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM. WE WERE WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED THE TITLE TO THE LAND IN 2020 AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 2020 CALLED COVID RIGHT. AND SO IT TOOK US A LITTLE WHILE TO GET OUR FEET WET AND THEN IN 2021 WE WERE ABLE TO HOLD SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS, GET SOME INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS OF WHICH COUNCILMAN PARTICIPATED IN SOME OF THESE MEETINGS AND WE RECEIVED A AGROFORESTRY GRANT FROM THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE WHICH HELPED US LAY OUT OUR COMMISSION A CONSULTANT TO DO A PLAN AND A PLAN IN THE SENSE OF THE HELP UM, YOU KNOW IT WAS 80 PLUS ACRES SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO ONE PARTICULAR THING ON ALL 80 ACRES AND MY COLLEAGUE ALEXIS WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

BUT SO WE ACTUALLY CHANGED THE NAME OFFICIALLY TO THE SAINT HELENA ISLAND COMMUNITY FARM TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNEW IT WAS THEIRS NOT JUST THE CENTER OPERATING.

SO THE PLAN WAS COMPLETED IN 2023. WE'VE DONE SOME ADJUSTMENTS BASED UPON WE'VE PRESENTED THE PLAN TO THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY GAVE US SOME FEEDBACK.

WE A WORK PLAN AND IMPLEMENTATION. WE WERE AWARDED A FEDERAL GRANT BUT I DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ANYWAY BUT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND NOW MY COLLEAGUE ALEXIS WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THE EXCITING WORK THAT'S HAPPENING.

YES. HELLO. I AM ALEXIS MARTIN.

I'M A FORESTER THE CENTER FOR HEIRS PROPERTY PRESERVATION. I HAVE MY TEAM HERE WITH ME SOME MORE FORESTERS BUT YES. SO I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU A BIT OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR . SO WE HAD RECENTLY RECEIVED SOME A LETTER AND THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT US NOT DOING ENOUGH ON THE FARM. SO I'VE SPOKEN I'VE SPOKEN TO A

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I'LL SHOW YOU DEMONSTRATION AREAS THAT WE HAVE ON SITE, THE PLANS WE HAVE GOING FORWARD SOME OBSTACLES THAT WE'VE RUN INTO, SOME NETWORKING THAT WE'VE DONE IN SOME PARTICIPATION WHICH THE MOST IMPORTANT PART FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'VE HAD.

SO WE'VE HAD LOT OF PARTICIPATION FROM THE COMMUNITY BUT LIKE JENNY WAS SAYING WE DID OUTSOURCE A FARM PLAN AND THERE WERE TWO OPTIONS THAT CAME WITH IT.

SO IT WAS IT WAS WHETHER WE COULD DO A MONARCH CROP WATERMELON OPERATION IN PLANT 80 ACRES OF WATERMELON LEASE OUT THE LAND. IT'D BE EASY YEAH BUT WE WENT WITH THE IT'S MORE WORK BUT I THINK BETTER SUIT FOR THE LAND IN MY OPINION BUT WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THE REGENERATIVE AGRICULTURE OPTION USING AGRO FORESTRY AND SO THIS IS THE SITE THIS IS A RENDITION OF THE MAP THAT WE'VE GOT FROM THE PLAN THE DIFFERENT AREAS THERE'S A SECTION RIGHT THERE SHOWS YOU HOW MANY ACRES ARE ALLOTTED FOR EACH DEMONSTRATION AREA. I WON'T GO INTO TO THAT. THAT'S NOT FOR TODAY.

IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE KNOW MORE INFORMATION I CAN GO OVER THAT BUT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON. SO THIS IS THE COMMUNITY GARDEN AND FOOD FORCE AREA.

THE COMMUNITY GARDEN IS JUST LIKE A MANICURED AREA OF THE ENTIRE FOOD FOREST.

THE FOOD FOR US IS IT'S A MULTILAYERED SYSTEM. LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT GOING INTO THE DETAILS OF EVERYTHING BUT THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE'VE DONE MOST WORK IN.

IF YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE COMMUNITY GARDEN THAT WE'VE STARTED.

WE GOT A GRANT FROM THE IS TO INSTALL TEN GARDEN BEDS WITH SOME SIGNAGE AND TO CREATE A GARDEN TEAM AND YOU TELL US WHAT NRC HAS IN OUR THE NATURAL RESOURCE CONSERVATION SERVICE THROUGH THE USDA. IF YOU THINK E-MAIL YOU'RE JUST BECAUSE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW ALL THOSE. YES. AND IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE MORE ON ANY OF THAT, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT US. GET MY CARD OR SOMETHING AND WE CAN HELP YOU ON YOUR LAND. YOU HAVE ANY? SO YEAH, WE HAD A GARDEN TEAM.

WE GOT COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON THEIR GARDEN TEAM AS WELL AS NRC AS REPRESENTATIVES AND CHIP STAFF. NOW THIS IS JUST WE GOT SOLD ORGANIC SOLD TOO SO GROWING THESE PUT IN THESE GARDEN BEDS WE ACTUALLY GOT SOME COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION THIS IS ONE OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE GARDEN TEAM WHO IS USING HIS TO HELP US BUILD THIS GARDEN BEDS WHICH WAS A LOT EASIER ON MY BACK SO ON OUR BACKS BECAUSE IT WAS ALL OF US AND SO THAT YEAH THAT WAS THAT WAS A BLESSING TO HAVE THAT. SOUTH CAROLINA STATE DONATED SOME COLLARD GREENS AND BROCCOLI TO US TO PLANT EARLIER WELL LAST YEAR THAT SIGN BACK THERE THAT WAS PART OF THE NRC GRANT AND YEAH WE DIDN'T A CROP OFF OF THAT BUT ONE PLANT SURVIVED EVERYTHING ELSE IN A FROST BUT ONE PLANT SURVIVED AND I DID EAT THE OF THAT PLANT IT WAS RATHER GOOD. I'VE ALSO BEEN IN THE ONIONS THAT THEY GAVE US THEY GAVE US ONIONS TO PLANT SO WE KNOW SO GOOD FOOD TELLING YOU. SO JUST SOME MORE COMMUNITY GARDEN UPDATES. WE'RE REGISTERED OFFICIALLY AS A PEOPLE'S GARDEN WITH THE USDA GARDENS WE'VE SOME SOIL TESTING DONE AND WE'VE ALSO BEGAN TO START THE CULTIVATION FOR THE FOOD FORCE AREA. WE HAD A COVER CROP WORKSHOP IN THE FOOD FORCE AREA PARTNERED ANOTHER ORGANIZATION ON THE ISLAND THE SOIL STEWARDS WORK WITH THE BLACK FARMER.

NOW IT'S THE SOUTH CAROLINA BLACK COALITION. THEY HAVE A GROUP CALLED THE SAUCE THAT CAME OUT AND WE PARTNERED WITH THEM TO HAVE HAVE THIS COVER WORKSHOP THAT THAT IS WE ORDERED SOME SEEK GOODNESS SORRY WE ORDERED BULK SEED AND THEY SET UP EVERYTHING THEY WENT LIVE ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA AND THINGS SO YEAH THAT IT'S NOT A REALLY GOOD PICTURE BUT YOU CAN SEE MR. GARAGE HE HAS HIS TRACTOR BACK THERE CULTIVATING FOOD FORCE AREA AND WE GET WE SPRAY BROADCAST SEED CLOVER OR MUSTARD AND COWPEA INITIALLY WE'LL DO LIKE TEAL AND THEN DO SOME SUNFLOWER PART OF A SUNFLOWER THAT WAS LIKE THE THE THING WHERE WILL PLANT SUNFLOWERS THIS YEAR NICE AND EASY AND IT'S BENEFICIAL THEY HAVE DEEP TAP ROOTS BUT YEAH SO PART THIS ISLAND I MEAN PART OF THIS SITE THERE THERE'S CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT PLANTS WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING THAT AND SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO THERE'S INDIGO YAUPON HOLLY SWEET GRASS WE'RE STILL FIGURING HOW WILL YOU KNOW CULTIVATE

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HE'S TRYING TO PUSH IT ON THE ISLAND OF SAINT HELENA AND THIS WAS A WORKSHOP WE HAD LAST YEAR AND THAT'S ME SARA GREEN ONE OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON THE ISLAND.

SHE SHE DIED OF A HANDKERCHIEF OF SOME SORT. I GOT TO DIE SOME PANTS SO THIS IS AN INDIGO IS ACTUALLY ALSO A IT'S A BIOMASS ACCUMULATOR IT'S A NITROGEN FIXTURE SO IN AND IT'S PERENNIALS SO THAT MEANS THAT YOU CAN IT CONTINUES TO LIVE YEAR AFTER YEAR RATHER DYING AFTER IT PRODUCES ONE YEAR BUT ANOTHER AREA SILVER CULTURE WE HAVE A LONG LEAF BEING PLANTED ON 18 ACRES WE ACTUALLY ALREADY GOT IT PLANTED WE'LL USE THAT TO KIND OF DO SOME ECONOMIC MAYBE YOU CAN WRITE PINE STRAW OR SOMETHING LONGLEAF PINE STRAW IN THE THE ISLAND IS AN HISTORICAL KNOWN FOR GROWING LONGLEAF SO WE CAN WE CAN USE IT FOR THAT SO WE HAVE THAT PLANTED 18 ACRES THAT WAS A SITE PREP THAT WE HAD WE HAD A DRONE FLY OVER AND CHEMICALLY SITE PREP WON'T GET INTO THAT SO THEY TOLD ME NOT TO SHARE TOO MUCH INFORMATION.

I ALWAYS I'M SORRY BUT I'M RUNNING THROUGH IT FAST. THAT'S ANOTHER THAT'S HOW THAT'S IT'S GETTING PREPPED AND WHATNOT BUT SO THE OBSTACLES THAT WE'VE RUN INTO SO FAR IS WELL WE WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PERENNIAL CROP INSTALLATION BECAUSE WE JUST GOT A SOLAR TEST PACK SO THAT'LL THAT'LL START RATHER SOON.

WE'RE WORKING ON HIRING A FARM MANAGER AND WE'RE WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE RIGHT NOW I'M RIDING AROUND WITH WHEELBARROW SHOVELS ON THE BACK OF MY TRUCK.

WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PUT OUR OUR SO WE'RE WAITING ON SOME STORAGE AND BUT THERE'S A 2520 9000 SQUARE FOOT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE LIMIT SO THERE'S A LIMIT TO HOW MUCH WE CAN BUILD SO. MOST OF THIS SITE WILL BE PLANTS CROPS AND THIS IS JUST TO SHOW SOME OF OUR PARTNERS IS NOT AN EXTENSIVE LIST. IT'S JUST SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH. I WON'T LEAVE THAT UP JUST IN CASE I MISS SOMEBODY BUT I WILL TELL YOU HOW TO COME GROW WITH US PLEASE IF Y'ALL WANT TO TO COME OUT AND JUST IF YOU WANT TO JUST DONATE WE'LL TAKE THAT WE'LL IF YOU WANT TO IF WANT TO COME OUT AND HELP IT'S THERE LIKE THIS IS A SPACE WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO CULTIVATE TO BE A COMMUNITY SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, LOVE TO BE THERE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN.

THAT'S JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT WE WE DO HAVE THINGS GOING ON ON THIS ON SITE.

IT'S IT'S GOING SLOWLY BUT SURELY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S FASCINATING WHAT WHAT ALL YOU DO GOING ON WOULD YOU MIND TAKING SOME QUESTIONS FROM GILLSON? YEAH OKAY. WE'LL START DOWN AT THIS IN A LOT OF OUR COUNCIL WERE NOT ON COUNCIL WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS ACQUIRED BY YOUR ORGANIZATION.

SO THIS IS NEW TO MANY OF THEM SO YOU WANT TO HELP WITH THIS OKAY WE'LL DOWN AT THIS OKAY OKAY THANK YOU KRISTA ALL RIGHT ANY QUESTIONS STARTING THIS IN ? I DON'T THINK MS.. MARTIN'S GOING TO HAVE AN ISSUE AT ALL ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PASSION AND WHAT YOU DELIVER.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO ADD. YEAH, I JUST COUNCILMAN GLOVER I AM I KNOW WHERE THE PROPERTY IS. I'VE BEEN HERE. I'VE BEEN ON IT BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S BOUNDARIES AND DAY . I WOULD JUST LOVE TO VISIT WITH YOU THIS JUST SO I CAN KNOW EXACTLY THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT PROPERTY STUFF BUT CONTINUE DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND I LIKE THE YOUR CONCEPT OF MOVING FORWARD WITH GROWING WITH THE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS OF GROWTH SO IT IS NOT A MONOCHROME IT'S BASICALLY A SYSTEM CROP AND HOPEFULLY WE DO SOME OTHER THINGS THERE AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION ULTIMATE APARTMENT. YEAH, I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL THING THAT YOU'RE DOING. MY WIFE IS THE GARDENER IN THE FAMILY WE PLANTED THE GARDEN THIS YEAR WITH ALL THE CROP WORK OKAY SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING SO I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL THING FOR LAWSON. I'M A I'M AN OLD FARM BOY BUT. I LOOK FORWARD TO MAYBE HAVING YOU COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND GIVE US MORE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING, HOW THINGS HAVE EXPANDED AND THE PROGRESS YOU'RE MAKING. AND WE CAN DEFINITELY INVITATIONS TO ANY OF OUR EVENTS TO ALL THAT BE GREAT. I DIDN'T KILL SOMEBODY. MY HUSBAND AND I PLANTED SOME POTATOES RECENTLY AND WE TOOK THEM OUT OF THE GROUND. WOW, WHAT A TASTE LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THE FRESH VEGETABLES ARE JUST THERE'S NO COMPARISON THE GROCERY STORE AND THEN WE WENT

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OH ACTUALLY SOME OF US HAVE BEEN ON THAT SITE BUT I'M GOING TO LET THE OTHERS ASK QUESTIONS . COUNCILMAN DEVIN, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I'M A CITY GIRL. I DON'T DO FARMING BUT EARLIER THIS YEAR WE WENT ON A TOUR OF A BUNCH OF FARMS WERE LOSING WE WE DIDN'T SEE THIS WE YOU DIDN'T KNOW WE DID WHAT WE DID OH WE DID YEAH WE DIDN'T CALL IT IT WAS NEXT TO ANOTHER ONE OKAY SO YEAH I LEARNED ABOUT THAT I DON'T DIG IN THE MUD AND STUFF SO. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.

I DON'T KNOW THAT'S WE HAVE THE MANICURED AREA SO THAT YOU KNOW HOW TO GET TO DRUGS OR WELL.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN BARTHOLOMEW? YEAH.

I JUST LIKE TO GET OUT THERE WHEN YOU HAVE ONE OF YOUR PROGRAMS IF YOU KEEP IT.

YEAH, LET US KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN DAWSON WHO IS A GARDENER WE KNOW I'M A COUNTRY BOY. MY DAD WAS A FARMER SO IT'S NOTHING BUT MY HAT'S OFF TO YOU, JENNY AND I FORGOT YOUR NAME ALEXIS. ALEXIS MY HAT'S OFF TO YOU GUYS A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK I JUST LIKE TO ADD TO THAT WE I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GROW INDIGO AND LONGLEAF PINE IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE WHERE WE CAME FROM IN THE SOUTH FOR THOSE PERMANENT CROPS TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE AND I THINK WE'LL GET THIS OUR GOOD OUT OF THE REST OF OUR TEAM. STAND UP.

OH OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT AND WE WILL GET THIS SO WE CAN PUT IT IN OUR MINUTES.

THIS PRESENTATION IS OKAY. I DO WANT TO ADD ONE THING WE'RE TURNING THE SITE INTO A DEMONSTRATION FARM. SO THIS IS SO THAT LANDOWNERS CAN WHAT'S POSSIBLE ON THEIR OWN PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT LIKE THIS.

IT'S ALSO GREAT BAND. THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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WE HAVE 12 CAR CARRY MAJOR WE DO YOUR FIRST ON THE LIST SO VERY MUCH COUNSEL FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME BACK UP AGAIN I'M CARRIE AND I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE COUNSEL AND EVERYONE ELSE AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN PROMISING PROMISED A 3500 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING TO ADD TO WESLEY FELIX BUT AS WE WALK HERE AGAIN I SAID I'M ENCOURAGED TO SEE WHAT ALL IS HERE AT WALTER AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WE HAVE A SPACE WHERE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, HOMEWORK, COMPUTER LABS AND WHERE NOT ONLY YOUTH CAN COME BUT ADULTS AS WELL WE LOOK AT SPORTS BUT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS ARE IMPORTANT TO US AND AS WE STAND AT SAXON VILLE PARK OR BALLPARK WESLEY ALL WE HAVE IS BASEBALL FIELDS. WE HAVE A TENNIS COURT OUTSIDE BASKETBALL COURT THE BATHROOM AREA WE SELL THE SNACKS AND HOT DOGS AND WHATEVER AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO US, YOU KNOW HAVING A FACILITY, A START PHASE ONE WHERE OUR YOUTH AND COMMUNITY CAN COME AND HAVE A PLACE TO DO OTHER THINGS. THANK YOU MS. MAJORS.

TYLER RICE OKAY. GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. HOW Y'ALL DOING? GOOD, GOOD. UH, MY NAME IS TYLER RICE. I'M A SENIOR MAJOR AT UCB AND THIS SEMESTER I'M INTERNING WITH THE HILL HEAD ISLAND BLUFFTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

I'VE BEEN ASSIGNED WITH WORKING WITH THE CHAMBER ON A PROJECT TO HELP ADDRESS THE WORKFORCE SHORTAGE IN OUR AREA THROUGH THE CHAMBER'S NEW JOB WEBSITE CALLED LOWCOUNTRY JOBS NOW DAWG GOAL IS TO EXPAND THE POTENTIAL LOCAL WORKFORCE FOR THE REGION AND TO DO THAT WE'VE COLLABORATED WITH LOCAL INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO DEVELOP SIX UNIQUE WORKFORCE CATEGORIES FOR BUSINESSES ORGANIZATIONS TO CONSIDER IN ADDITION TO JOBS FOR THE EVERYDAY WORKFORCE OH I THAT BACK SO THE SIX CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE OUR HIGH SCHOOL INTERNSHIPS WE WORKED WITH SIX LOCAL HIGH SCHOOLS TO DEVELOP INFORMATION INSIGHTS ON ENHANCING AND EXPANDING HIGH SCHOOL INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES THE LOWCOUNTRY A SECOND IS COLLEGE INTERNSHIPS WE'VE PARTNERED THE LOCAL COLLEGES FOR SIMILAR EFFORTS FOCUSING ON DEVELOPMENT, ADVANCEMENT OF COLLEGE, INTERNSHIP WITH LOCAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES.

NUMBER THREE IS TRADE APPRENTICESHIPS. WE ARE WORKING WITH TEACHER AND

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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT IS DEREK STEP STUTTER MY LAST NAME DID I PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY? OKAY I'M HELLO.

MY NAME IS DEREK SITARAM. I WANTED TO ON THE UP ZONING FOR CHERRY POINT WE'RE ON TWO YEARS OF THESE UP ZONING REQUESTS FOR THIS PARCEL OF LAND THIS IS 120 ACRES OF HEAVILY WOODED LAND THAT HAS BEEN BEING PROPOSED CUT DOWN AND REPLACED WITH ASPHALT, CONCRETE AND ROOFTOPS ALL OF THIS IMPERVIOUS AREA COMBINED WITH THE NEGATIVE IMPACT OF THE EXISTING WETLANDS WILL RESULT IN THE INCREASE IN FLOODING NUTRIENT, RUNOFF, WATER POLLUTION AND SHORELINE EROSION NOT TO MENTION NEGATIVE IMPACT OF THE LOCAL WILDLIFE THAT WE SEE EVERY DAY INCLUDING DEER OTTERS, BALD EAGLE HERONS AND NUMEROUS OTHER TYPES OF BIRDS AND FISH. OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE PERSON WHO LIVES NEAR THIS PARCEL OF LAND THAT HAS COME FORWARD TO THIS UP ZONING DUE TO THE INCREASING GROWTH OVER THE LAST 5 TO 10 YEARS. OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. WE NEED RESPONSIBLE GROWTH IN AND UP ZONING AND AN ALREADY TAXED INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE. THE SCHOOLS ARE SO TAXED THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH BUS DRIVERS TO DRIVE ALL THE ROUTES SOME OF THE DRIVERS HAVE TO DROP KIDS OFF AT SCHOOL AND THEN GO BACK OUT TO COMPLETE ANOTHER ROUTE.

ADDITIONALLY SOME SPORTS TEAMS MAE RIVER CROSS-COUNTRY AND TRACK DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH BUSSES TO TAKE THE STUDENT ATHLETES TO MEET LEAVING THE PARENTS AND COACHES TO DRIVE THE KIDS.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL HOUSING UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED THAT HAVE NOT BEEN STARTED THEREFORE THIS UP ZONING AGAIN IS NOT RESPONSIBLE GROWTH.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY VOTED DOWN THE REQUEST THE REVIEW THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE VOTED 6 TO 1 TO TURN DOWN THIS REQUEST. COUNCILWOMAN TABACHNICK I WOULD LIKE TO APPLAUD YOUR EFFORT AND REPRESENTATION OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS AT THE LAST NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE AS AS THERE WAS AN UP ZONING REQUEST IN OR NEAR YOUR DISTRICT YOU STATED DURING UP ZONING REQUEST THE PEOPLE I REPRESENT DO NOT WANT UP ZONING SO I AM GOING TO VOTE NO. THANK YOU FOR BEING THE VOICE THE PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT.

PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS UP ZONING REQUEST. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE LIST IS RYAN'S DAUGHTER.

I ASSUME THERE'S A RELATION. YES MA'AM. HE'S MY DAD .

GOOD. I'M HERE TO COMMENT ON THE CHERRY POINT REZONING.

MY NAME IS RYLAN SUTTER. I LIVE AT 169 CHERRY POINT ROAD AND I'M A SENIOR AT MAYOR OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL. I GREW UP IN BLUFFTON. I CARE A LOT ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT IS HAPPENING TO IT WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.

I LOVE TO BE OUTDOORS. I'VE BEEN FISHING, CRABBING AND SHRIMPING HERE SINCE I WAS LITTLE. UNFORTUNATELY THOUGH YOU CAN'T HARVEST ANY FISH OYSTERS, CRABS ,SHRIMP FROM THE RIVER AROUND CHERRY POINT BECAUSE THE BACTERIA LEVELS ARE TOO HIGH DEVELOPING THIS AREA IS ONLY GOING TO MAKE WORSE. I'M YOUR GRANDSON.

WHAT YOU DECIDE NOW WILL IMPACT MY GENERATION IN GENERATIONS TO COME.

I'D RATHER FISH FROM THE RIVER BEHIND MY HOUSE AND BE ABLE TO EAT IT THAN DOWN THE STREET FOR A CUP OF COFFEE. PLEASE VOTE NO ON OWNING THIS PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK THE LISA MARK FELICE LAMARCA 149 CHERRY POINT ROAD ON BEHALF OF THE CHERRY POINT NEIGHBORHOOD WE ASK YOU TO DENY THIS REZONING REQUEST AND WE WOULD ALSO LIKE YOU TO RECONSIDER ADDING ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT REVIEW STANDARDS TO THE CURRENT TWO FOUR DENIAL STANDARD ONE WE BELIEVE IT IS

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THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE THIS FIT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AFTER THE FACT IT DOESN'T IT JUST ADDS MORE CONGESTION PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT STANDARD OF ALL AND IT'S OFTEN NEGLECTED IS STANDARD EIGHT WE BELIEVE IT WILL RESULT IN ADVERSE IMPACTS OF THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. THERE IS AN ANYONE MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DISAGREES WITH THAT I KNOW WHO DID THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY BUT WE LIVE HERE SEE THAT OUR NATURAL RESOURCES ARE NOT PROTECT JUST THE LOSS OF TREES ALONE IN POINT WE'VE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT MORE TO COME WITH RIVER OAKS WILL IMPACT THE WATER AND AIR WHO DOESN'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A BALD EAGLE LANDS ON MY DOCK FROM HIS TREE ACROSS THE MARSH I THINK FROM YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO A TREE IN CHERRY POINT WHERE IS HE GOING TO GO? WHERE IS HE GOING TO LAND? THE TREES ARE GONE. I HAVE SAID BEFORE THE COUNTY SHOULD NOT BE IN THE BUSINESS OF HELPING OWNERS MAXIMIZE THEIR PROCESS PROFITS BY ZONING THEIR PROPERTY. IT IS YOUR BUSINESS TO PROTECT OUR QUALITY LIFE AND OUR COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE NO CONFIDENCE THAT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL PROTECT ANY OF THIS. YOU SEE NO ONE COMES BACK TO US AFTER THE COMMUNITY COMES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AFTER THE ZONING IS AND AFTER THE INK HAS DRIED TO ASK US TO MAKE CHANGES AND APPROVE THEM. NO ONE COMES BACK TO US. I MOVED HERE TO ESCAPE THE AND TRAFFIC OF OVERDEVELOPMENT. I WANT TO BREATHE AGAIN. I WANTED A BETTER WAY OF LIFE.

I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF YOU THAT MOVED HERE FROM OTHER AREAS TOO .

SOME OF YOU MIGHT SAY THAT YOU WERE LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE AND THAT THE VILLAGE PARK OVERLAY WILL BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. WELL WE THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE . WHAT WE SEE IN OUR FUTURE ARE TREES AND RIVERS, NOT ASPHALT AND BUILDINGS. I STOOD BEFORE YOU IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023 AND TOLD YOU WRONG TIME WRONG PLACE. I STAND BEFORE IN 2025 AND SAY IT AGAIN WRONG AND DEFINITELY WRONG PLACE. THANK YOU FOR TIME.

THANK YOU AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. NEXT JOSHUA POWER.

AM I SAYING THE LAST NAME CORRECTLY? OKAY.

WELL, I CAN ALSO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY SPEAK. MY NAME IS JOSHUA HAUER.

I HAVE A REALLY BAD HABIT OF SPEAKING OFF THE CUFF. I ACTUALLY WANTED TO HIT TWO TOPICS. PRIMARY REASON I'M HERE TONIGHT IS CHERRY POINT BUT THE PRESENTATION ON THE ST HELENA COMMUNITY FARM WAS VERY NICE. I REALLY ENJOYED IT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND A GREAT PROJECT THAT THEY'RE UNDERTAKING.

I DID HAVE ONE COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO KIND OF PASS ON TO THE COUNCIL AND.

THIS IS JUST MY TIME IN THE IN DELAWARE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD. WE USED WORK FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS FOR TRAINING EXERCISES SO I WOULD ASK MAYBE COUNCIL GET WITH THE STATE OFFICIALS AND SEE IF MAYBE THE ENGINEERING UNIT IN SOUTH CAROLINA WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A PROJECT LIKE THE COMMUNITY FARM OR EVEN ANOTHER THAT YOU MAY BE AWARE OF . WITH THAT WRAPPED UP JUST TO SWITCH OVER TO CHERRY POINT, I THINK MY CHERRY NEIGHBORS AND MY COMMUNITY MALE AND BLUFF WE'VE BEEN HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW. WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SIMILAR PLAN LAST YEAR NEW PLAN SAME FLAVOR THIS YEAR PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL AND I BELIEVE THE NAME CHANGE THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED DENIAL. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER DENYING IT ON THIS FIRST READING I KNOW THAT WE LIKE TO GIVE OPPORTUNITIES AND CHANCES TO COME BACK TO THE TABLE BUT AS THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN BEFORE.

WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO JUST KIND OF PUT THIS ONE TO BED SO I'D PLEASE ASK YOU TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDING FOR DENIAL TONIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. TERRY LAVENDER. MM HMM.

MM HMM. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE

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34 YEAR RESIDENT IN FRONT OF Y'ALL FOR THE PAST 23 YEARS TRYING TO KEEP THIS FROM HAPPENING. CHECK THE RIVER FOLKS. IT'S CLOSED DOWN ALL THE WAY TO BAILEY'S. UH, IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF PEOPLE AT CHERRY POINT.

UM, I GUESS WHAT I NEED TO ASK YOU IS THIS WE'RE FULL OF INFORMATION.

THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT HAVE INFORMATION .

Y'ALL HAVE PLENTY OF INFORMATION. THE COUNTY HAS PLENTY OF INFORMATION. THE STATE HAS PLENTY OF INFORMATION.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT AND PROCESS IT. AND IF A COMMITTEE PRIOR TO YOU HAS NO AND THEN ANOTHER COMMITTEE PRIOR TO YOU HAS SAID NO AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS NO AND BEFORE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS SAY NO THEN MAYBE THE ANSWER SHOULD BE NO.

UM, I WOULD WHAT I WOULD TRULY LIKE TO SEE TONIGHT IS A UNANIMOUS NO ON THIS.

IT'S RIDICULOUS. I'M COMMONSENSE PERSON AND I KNOW HOW TO ADD.

SO YOU HAVE 70 ACRES NOW THAT'S ON IN YOUR NECK. THERE'S ANOTHER 20 IN BETWEEN THE OTHER 20 OF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THEN ALSO LAND AT MAITLAND BLUFFED UP FRONT THAT WANTS BE APARTMENTS. SO ONE SET OF APARTMENTS TURNS INTO FOUR VERY VERY QUICKLY AND FOLKS WE DON'T NEED THE TRAFFIC WE DON'T NEED ANY OF THAT. THE RUNOFF TO THE RIVER LIKE I SAID IS HORRENDOUS AND. WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE AND PLEASE I'LL LEAVE MY NUMBER IF YOU HAVE MY NUMBER THE POND MAITLAND ARE NOT MAITLAND RIVER OAKS WITH SOMEONE PLEASE LOOK AT THAT I HAVE MENTIONED IT FIVE OR SIX TIMES. IF YOU WILL RIDE DOWN THERE YOU WILL SEE CLAY WATER RUNNING UNDER CHERRY POINT ROAD AND IT RUNS DOWN TO THE WOODS AND THEN COME BACK ACROSS AND IT DUMPS OUT DOWN THERE AT MR. LANI'S HOUSE WHICH IN TURN COMES RIGHT BACK BY MS. POLICES AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S DOCKS. OKAY SO THE RIVER IS FILLING IN. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I THE RIVER ALL THE TIME IT'S FILLING IN.

SO WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE LOOK AT THAT IS NOT A RETENTION AND RETENTION POND OVERFLOWS IT GETS HIGH. THIS ONE NEVER HAS WATER IN IT. PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. LIKE I SAID, I WITH ALL THE NEWS THAT HAVE GONE ON HERE UNANIMOUS WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO SEE TONIGHT, FOLKS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. FLETCHER. NEXT IS TOM SCARDINA AND IF I MISPRONOUNCED IT, PLEASE CORRECT ME. EXCUSE ME. TOM SCARDINO.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN ALL OF MY CHERRY POINT NEIGHBORS ALREADY EXPRESSED SO THIS WILL BE GENERAL. I'M AT 141 CHERRY POINT. I GREW UP IN SAVANNAH AND BLUFFTON. I LIVE IN ATLANTA NOW BUT MY WIFE AND I INTEND TO RETIRE HERE WHICH IS WHY WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND THE REASON ALL TOWN AND HISTORIC SAVANNAH LOOK THE WAY THEY DO IS BECAUSE SOMEBODY STOOD UP AND SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT THAT WAY.

THERE'S A BETTER WAY. LET'S HAVE IT THIS WAY AND THIS WAY IS THE WAY IT IS TODAY AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT FOR CHERRY POINT. I'M IN CONSTRUCTION.

I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT BUT THIS UP ZONING IDEA IS NOT A GOOD WAY.

THERE IS A BETTER WAY. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE OPPOSED TO IT.

AND I AGREE WITH TERRY THE UNANIMOUS WOULD SEND THE STRONGEST SIGNAL THAT'S BEEN TRIED TO BE COMMUNICATED FOR ALL THESE YEARS AND THOSE THAT LIVE OF US THAT LIVE THERE.

IT IS UNANIMOUS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

KATHLEEN KEATING EITHER. THANK YOU. I'M KATHLEEN KEATING AND I'VE LIVED AT 132 CHERRY POINT ROAD FOR 22 YEARS. I'M HERE TO ASK YOU FOR TWO THINGS AGAIN. ONE IS THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE ADDING MORE TO WHAT IS REALLY THE FOOT OF A ONE 7278 FEET OR AND IT IS THE PLOT IS NUTS OKAY IT'S JUST NUTS. BUT THE OTHER THING I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT

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THE U.S. CENSUS BUREAU HAS GIVEN YOU FOUR COUNTY A GROWTH RATE OF 1.4%.

THEY PROJECT THE ADDITIONAL FOR AN ADDITIONAL 2868 PEOPLE FOR 2025.

THAT'S AN UPTICK OF ONLY 102 PEOPLE FROM 2024. IT'S ALSO ESTIMATED 55% OF THAT NUMBER ARE MARRIED AND AROUND 25% WILL HAVE MINORS UNDER THE AGE OF 18.

THAT BRINGS THE AVAILABLE HOUSING NEEDS TO DOWN UNDER AND I'M SURE IT DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF CHILDREN IN THAT COUNT TO UNDER HUNDRED AND 97. IF THEY WERE ALL TO MOVE IN TODAY THERE ARE 530 TODAY 532 RENTALS AVAILABLE. THIS INCLUDES APARTMENTS, TOWNHOUSES AND HOT IN HOUSES LOOKING ONLY AT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE FOR HOMES, TOWNS, TOWNHOMES AND CONDOS THERE ARE OVER 1200 AVAILABLE PROPERTIES. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THESE NUMBERS DO NOT INCLUDE THE PROPERTIES UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN APPROVAL.

AND WHILE THE NEW INVENTORY SEEMS TO BE FILLING ITSELF, MANY OTHER AVAILABILITIES ARE LANGUISHING. AND I'M WILLING TO BET THAT EIGHT TIMES OUT OF TEN FOLKS ARE MOVING INTO THE NEW. LOOKING TO UPGRADE. IF THAT TREND CONTINUES YOU'LL BE FACED WITH BUILDINGS IN AREAS AND THOSE ARE CRIME MAGNETS.

POINT IS THAT BETWEEN WHAT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED AND WHAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO FIND A GLUT RIGHT NOW IN HOUSING.

NOW YOU MAY THINK THAT A LARGE OVERSTOCK HOUSING IS NECESSARY AND I AND I DISAGREE.

NOT LARGE. WELL, WE DO NEED OVERSTOCK FOR EXTENDED FAMILIES.

YOU KNOW THE KIDS WANT TO BUY OR WHATEVER. BUT NOT TO THIS EXTENT.

I WILL CONTINUE TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER A MORATORIUM. TAKE HARD LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY JUSTIFICATION GIVEN TO CONTINUE THE URBANIZATION AND DESTRUCTION OF OUR CORNER OF THE LOW COUNTRY. WE ARE NOT IN A HORSE RACE WITH JASPER COUNTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE GEIER WHO IS CHAIRMAN OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD.

WELCOME. GEIER FROM COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR.

MADAM CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS EVENING I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME PERSONAL COMMENTS ABOUT GROWTH IN NORTHERN COUNTY. BUT FIRST I'D LIKE TO MENTION PAST GROWTH IN THE COUNTY. 20 YEARS AGO I DO NOT BELIEVE THE COUNTY COUNCIL OR THE BLUFFTON TOWN COULD HAVE ENVISIONED A POPULATION GROWTH IN TODAY'S BLUFFTON.

THAT GROWTH HAS RESULTED IN THE FACT THAT HALF OF COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT'S ENROLLMENT IS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF BLUFFTON. THIS GROWTH WAS IN FITS AND STARTS AND NOT IN A LINEAR FASHION. IT EXPANDED IN POCKETS, NOT IN A GEOGRAPHIC WAVE. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT REACTED TO GROWTH BY EXPANDING EXISTING AND BUILDING NEW SCHOOLS ON AVAILABLE ACREAGE. THERE WAS NO EVIDENT MASTER PLAN FOR PROGRESSIVE IN SEQUENTIAL POPULATION GROWTH. IF THERE WAS A PLAN, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THROUGH ITS OWN FAULT WAS INVOLVED IN ANY MEANINGFUL GROWTH PLANNING.

CURRENTLY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTING ADDITIONAL ELEMPUS AND HAS ROOM TO BUILD AN ADDITIONAL SCHOOL THERE IF NECESSARY.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING THE WILLOW RUN PROPERTY IN BLUFFTON. THIS IS THE SUITABLE TRACT IN BLUFFTON FOR ADDITIONAL SCHOOL INSTRUCTION. RECENTLY I PROVIDED THE COUNCIL WITH THE DISTRICT'S FACILITY MASTER PLAN. IF YOU READ THE LAST PART OF THE MASTER PLAN YOU SEE THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS ADDITIONAL PROPERTY WILL ALLOW TO ACCOMMODATE THE FINAL BUILD OUT OF THE OF BLUFFTON. WITH 2020 HINDSIGHT I BELIEVE THAT OF 20 YEARS AGO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS MORE INVOLVED WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF BLUFFTON.

WE COULD HAVE PROPERLY DISTRIBUTE IN SCHOOLS TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE THE GOAL OF NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS. SOME NATIONAL MEDIA TELLS US THAT CAROLINA WILL BE ONE OF IF

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THE QUESTION IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS. NO ONE CAN ACCURATELY PREDICT THE FUTURE BUT WE CAN LEARN FROM THE PAST. IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL BLUFFTON COUNCIL AND THE SCHOOL BOARD TO COME TOGETHER AND CONDUCT AN AFTER ACTION REVIEW OF THE GROWTH OF BLUFFTON OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. REVIEW COULD IDENTIFY LESSONS LEARNED THAT COULD BE INVALUABLE IN CHARTING THE PLANNING FOR FUTURE GROWTH IN BEAUFORT. IT'S HARD TO PREDICT THE FUTURE BUT BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT IS COMMITTED TO REMAIN ENGAGED WITH COUNTY CITY TOWNSHIP OFFICIALS ABOUT PROVIDING CLASSROOM SPACE FOR TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS SUPPORT OF THE CHILDREN THAT COMES WITH POPULATION GROWTH. PLEASE CONSIDER A BLUFFTON GROWTH AFTER ACTION REVIEW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT IS CARLTON BEE DALLAS WHO IS THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? THANK YOU ALL.

I'M PROUD TO BE HERE AND HAPPY TO SHARE A FEW WORDS WITH YOU AS VICE CHAIR OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WHAT WE LOOK FOR IS TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AS I CHAIR COLONEL GARDNER SAID. THAT REQUIRES COLLABORATION WITH OTHER ENTITIES THAT HAVE TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THINGS ARE LOCATED, WANTS TO PROVE HOW THEY ARE BUILT.

AND WE JUST WOULD ASK THAT AGAIN AS THE COLONEL REQUESTED THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO ENGAGE WITH YOU AND OTHER ENTITIES TO PLAN STRATEGICALLY FOR WHERE IS THE BEST POSITION TO PUT SCHOOLS SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN.

GROWTH WILL HAPPEN BUT WE WANT TO MANAGE IT IN A VERY DELICATE WAY SO THAT THE CITIZENS THAT ARE UP HERE SPEAK IN AND ELSEWHERE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT THE PEOPLE IN CONTROL OF ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING ALL THEY CAN TO ENSURE THE BEST ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL PEOPLE

[10. LIASION AND COMMITTEE REPORTS]

ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE WILL HAVE THE BRIEF REPORTS, LIAISON AND COMMITTEE REPORTS. WE'LL START WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? I THINK OKAY. MR. BURNETT. WELL, I HAVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PEOPLE HERE. THEY'VE BEEN VERY BUSY WITH SCHOOL COMMITTEE MEETINGS OVER THE TWO WEEKS. SO THE OPERATIONS MAD MAINTENANCE DISCUSSION, CUSTODIAL UPDATE, CONSTRUCTION UPDATE, FINANCE COMMITTEE, THE BUDGET REPORT OF COURSE I FOUND THE HEALTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE INTERESTING. I LEARNED TWO NEW THINGS GAVIN'S LAW IF ANYBODY DOESN'T KNOW THAT IT'S LEGISLATION THAT MAKES SEXUAL EXTORTION THE ACT OF BLACKMAILING SOMEONE USING SEXUALLY EXPLICIT IMAGES OR VIDEOS A FELONY OFFENSE AND AN AGGRAVATED FELONY IF THE IS A MINOR VULNERABLE ADULT OR VICTIM ETC. AND THERE WAS ERIN'S LAW DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE EITHER AND AS AN EX EDUCATOR I FIND THESE IMPORTANT IT PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO IMPLEMENT AGE APPROPRIATE SEXUAL ABUSE PREVENTION EDUCATION FOR STUDENTS IN PRE-K TO 12 AND MANDATES TRAINING FOR SCHOOL PERSONNEL SO BEEN VERY BUSY CODING THEIR COMMUNITIES. AND MY OTHER REPORT IS FROM THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WE HAD IT WAS LAST WEEK WE HAD UPDATES FROM NCDOT AND ANYBODY THAT TO SEE ALL OF THOSE TRAFFIC SIGNALS UPDATE I HAVE THAT DATA ME. JARED GAVE AN UPDATE ON 278 170 WHICH WE LIVE WITH EVERY DAY BEFORE JASPER REHAB RECONSTRUCTION.

$18 MILLION IS FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY. THAT'S ONLY 7.57 MILES.

DOES THAT BLOW YOUR MIND? $80 MILLION AND THAT'S CASTLE HALL TO 78 DETOUR ROAD AND A FEW OTHER PLACES. WE HAVE 66 MILES OF DIRT ROADS. IT'S PART OF THEIR EXECUTING A FIVE YEAR PLAN AND 50 PLUS MILES HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH SOME RESIDENTS DON'T WANT THE ROADS. THEY'RE WORKING ON DAUPHIN POINT, LEO GREEN, JAMES WASHINGTON AND IT WAS A VERY GOOD MEETING. IT'S VIDEOED, YOU CAN WATCH IT BUT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE KEEPS GOING. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE OR LIAISON? YES COUNCILMAN BASEMENT? YES. I ATTENDED THE LIBRARY BOARD MEETING ON THE 12TH.

OUR LIBRARIES CONTINUE TO. LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME FOR THE FULL WE HAD 4200 NEW RESIDENTS

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THANK YOU COUNCILMAN GLOVER I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE ON THE AGENDA FROM THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE ON THE CONSENT WE HAVE NOMINEES AND REAPPOINTMENT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO FOR THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION REVIEW BOARD.

ON THE AGENDA ITSELF THERE'S SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THREE BASICALLY AT LEASE AGREEMENTS FOR RECREATIONAL CENTERS ONE ON SAINT HELENA, THE SCOTT COMMUNITY, THE DALE COMMUNITY AND THE BIG ESTATE COMMUNITY. AND THEN WE HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE CHERRY FARM ROAD THAT WAS SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN 2014 FOR THE THIRD AND FINAL READING IS COMING UP TODAY TO TO APPROVE THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION OF THAT THAT ROAD AND ALSO WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA THE CHERRY POINT SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT 121 ACRES THAT'S COMING BEFORE US TONIGHT AND WE WOULD ALSO THE FIRST KEY IS ASKING THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A HOSPITAL IN THEIR COMMUNITY BUT NOT THERE'S NO PROVISION A VETERINARIAN SITTING THERE AND ASKING FOR IT TAKES AMENDMENT TO ALLOW TO HAPPEN AND THE 49 ACRES THAT WAS THE WHAT WE CALL THE MOSAIC PROPERTY THE APPLICATION WAS WITHDRAWN.

SO IT'S NOT COMING BEFORE US. IT WON'T COME BEFORE. OKAY.

WE HAVE COUNCILMAN BARTHOLOMEW I DON'T KNOW IF LARRY HAS ANYTHING DON'T SEE HIS HAND RAISED SO GO AHEAD REAL QUICK. I ATTENDED THE TECO BOARD MEETING LAST THURSDAY.

ONE OF THE BIG TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT ENROLLMENT IS UP THROUGHOUT THE TECHNICAL COLLEGE SYSTEM HERE IN BEAUFORT AND ALSO KIDS ARE ACTUALLY GOING ON CAMPUS SO THEY HAVE SEVERAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT SHOULD MAKE THE COMMUNITY CENTERS AND THE STUDENT CENTERS BETTER. ONE OTHER THING TOO THEY HAVE A NEW MASCOT KING TIDE SO I GUESS GET READY TO SEE HIM OUT AND ABOUT. SO KING TIDE YEAH.

KING DOWN AND GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE IN THE CONSENT AGENDA OH YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IT'S A LOT OF REAPPOINTMENT THAT WAS THE BULK OF THAT MEETING.

YOU'LL SEE REAPPOINTMENT FOR THE BURTON FIRE DISTRICT, THE FUNKY ISLAND DISTRICT, THE LIBRARY BOARD, THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AS WELL AS THE SHELL SHELDON FIRE DISTRICT AND OUR NEXT COMMUNITY SERVICE MEETING IS GOING TO BE APRIL 7TH SO OKAY.

[11. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]

ALL RIGHT. I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT.

WE MENTIONED A LOT OF IT JUST NOW BY SHOW HANDS APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. IT IS UNANIMOUS.

[12. AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO AN INTERGOVERMENTAL AGREEEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND CHARLESTON COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE TO ALLOW BEAUFORT COUNTY INMATES TO BE TEMPORARILY HOUSED AT THE CHARLESTON COUNTY DETENTION CENTER WHILE REPAIRS ARE MADE TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY DETENTION CENTER.]

ROBERTSON MR. ROBERTSON. OKAY CAN I GET A MOTION? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. THE MOTION OKAY. COUNCILMAN LAWSON MADE THE MOST WHEN WE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. OH, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FIRST OF GOING TO VOTE FIRST MOTION AND SECOND JUST TO GET IT ON RIGHT RIGHT. OKAY OKAY OKAY ALL RIGHT NOW WE CAN DISCUSS IT CERTAINLY EXPLAIN. SO THE AMMO YOU AS AN ANIMAL YOU COUNTY AND CHARLESTON COUNTY SHERIFF CHARLESTON COUNTY OFFICE MANAGES THEIR

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SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S INTERGOVERNMENTAL GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND CHARLESTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE GOVERNMENT.

IF I DIDN'T ASK YOU JARRARD WOULD THINK I WAS LETTING YOU SLIDE.

SO DO YOU DO YOU WANT TO COULD YOU GO IN BRIEFLY WHY? WE NEED TO DO THIS.

WELL, THE OUR DETENTION CENTER HAS SOME PHYSICAL REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

SO WHEN THOSE REPAIRS ARE PLANNED TO TAKE PLACE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE SPACE FOR OUR INMATES TO MOVE BECAUSE IN THAT HOUSING THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN THE DETENTION CENTER TO LET'S SAY REHOME ALL THE INMATES. AVERAGE DAILY POPULATION RIGHT NOW IS AROUND I THINK WE'RE RIGHT AT 198 IT CHANGES EVERY DAY AND WE HAVE THE CAPACITY OF 255 SO WHEN WE LOSE ONE OF THOSE HOUSING UNITS THAT HOUSING UNIT WILL BE WORKING ON IS A 72 INMATES. SO WE NEED TO MOVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF INMATES.

WE CAN RECLASSIFY SOME WITHIN THE DETENTION CENTER WHAT WE NEED TO ALSO KEEP SOME OPEN HOUSING UNIT FOR THE AVERAGE DAY OF INMATES THAT COME AND GO WHICH IS BETWEEN 15 AND 22 FOLKS A DAY. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SPACE THOSE ARRIVING AND LEAVING AS WELL AS ACCOMMODATE THE EXISTING AND IN A NEW LOCATION TEMPORARILY WE HAVE SOME ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? NO QUESTIONS.

THIS MEMO YOU WRITE JUST ONE IN THE EMAIL YOU YOU HAVE SIX WEEKS IS THAT SUFFICIENT? YES, SIR. RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE IT'S THREE WEEKS FOR FOR THIS M.O. YOU FOR THE PERIOD THAT THIS WOULD WOULD WOULD TAKE PLACE. OKAY.

AND THAT'S SUFFICIENT TIME THE YES SIR. THAT'S WHAT OUR OUR FACILITIES FOLKS AND OUR AND OUR CONTRACTORS THAT ARE DOING THE WORK THAT'S WHAT TELL US IS APPROPRIATE AND THERE'S A LITTLE EXTRA TIME IN THERE COMPARED TO WHAT THEY REQUESTED. OKAY? YES, SIR AND IT STARTED TODAY.

YEAH, NO SIR. NOT YET. SOON I SAW MARCH 24TH ON AGREEMENT BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY.

OKAY. THE QUESTIONS WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR BY SIGN OF PANTS, RIGHT? THAT IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU.

[13. 2025/19 AN ORDINANCE FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE (CDC): APPENDIX B (DAUFUSKIE ISLAND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE) DIVISION 3 (PERMITTED USES) TO PERMIT THE USE OF ANIMAL SERVICES: CLINIC/HOSPITAL IN D2 RURAL (D2R) (PUBLIC HEARING)]

NEXT NEXT ON THE AGENDA WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE ORDINANCES FOR SECOND READING.

I'LL TURN THIS OVER TO MR. BERNANKE. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SO OUR ORDINANCE IS 2025 SLIDES 19 IT IS AN ORDINANCE FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT APPENDIX B TO FUSCHIA ISLAND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION THREE PERMITTED USES TO PERMIT USE OF ANIMAL SERVICES I.E. CLINIC SLASH HOSPITAL IN D-2 RURAL THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING THE VOTE AT THE FIRST READING ON MARCH 10TH WAS 11 ZERO SO I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE READ.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. THANK YOU. MR. LAWSON.

IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND? MR. BARTHOLOMEW THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE? DON'T EVERYBODY SAID IT WAS ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE FROM COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT UM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I MOVE THAT WE GRANT THE REQUEST FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH ANY PROVISION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE OR THE CODE OF COURT ORDINANCES IS REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS DOES ADDRESS AND DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE ZONES IN THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE OR WOULD IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY AMONG USERS AND ENSURE EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COUNTY IT WOULD RESULT IN LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT AND WOULD NOT RESULT IN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WATER AIR NOISE MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE, VEGETATION, WETLANDS AND THE NATURAL OF THE ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE WE ALREADY SECONDED HE WAS WAS COMMENTING.

YES. PLEASE COMMENT ON THE CRITERIA ,LARRY.

OH OKAY. OR MR. MCCALLUM AND LET HIM JUMP IN.

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RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE. LARRY. LARRY, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? YOU WANT TO SPEAK LARRY, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, VERY, VERY BRIEFLY. THANK YOU TO THE LAWSUIT FOR THAT READING.

I AGREE WITH THIS WITH THIS TEXT AMENDMENT AND I SUPPORT IT I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO BUILD A LITTLE BIT OVERDUE I THINK WITH THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY WILL BE BETTER SERVED BY THIS AND I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT WITH. GREAT ENTHUSIASM.

SO I'LL SUPPORT THIS AND VOTE YES WHEN THE VOTE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MR. MCCULLEN IS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO START WITH SO THE FIRST GARLAND CAN THANK HIM FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT.

[14. 2025/13 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF RIGHT OF WAY FOR CHEROKEE FARMS ROAD ASSOCIATED WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DATED DECEMBER 15, 2014]

THANK YOU. IT'S UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE ORDINANCE 2025 SIZE 13. IT IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF RIGHT OF WAY FOR CHEROKEE FARMS ROAD ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DATED DECEMBER 2014 THE VOTE AT FIRST READING ON MARCH 10TH WAS 11 ZERO. THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE THIRD READING ON APRIL 14TH BECAUSE WE HAD TO HAVE 15 DAY NOTICE.

SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE AS READ A MOTION OKAY MISS BROWN MOTION SECOND SECOND MS. HOWARD SECOND ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? NO, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS SO ALL RIGHT. THOSE IN FAVOR OF VOTING APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS READ. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, MR. MCMILLAN.

[15. 2025/14 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE BIG ESTATE JENKINS COMMUNITY CENTER FOR REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 132 BOOKER T. WASHINGTON CIRCLE]

ORDINANCE 2025 SIZE 41 IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE BIGGEST STATE JENKINS JENKINS COMMUNITY CENTER FOR REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 132 BOOKER T WASHINGTON CIRCLE THE VOTE AT FIRST READING MARCH 10TH WAS 11 ZERO AND AGAIN THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL TAKE PLACE AT READING ON APRIL 14 DUE TO OUR 15 DAY NOTICE REQUIREMENT. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE AS READ? MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. OKAY.

WE GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR INFORMATION ON THE FLOOR FIRST.

ALL RIGHT, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THEN, MADAM. A BIG, BIG BIG ESTATE IS IS ONE WORD. WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE IT. OKAY, THAT IS EASY WITH YOU SO THEY CAN FIX IT ON HERE, ALL RIGHT. NO, NO, NO IS ACTUALLY TWO WORDS BUT IS PRONOUNCED WITH ONE WORD ONE SYLLABLE BECAUSE SEE REALLY? OKAY, I'M FROM WE USED TO WORK IN BIG IF IT SAYS TWO WORDS I READ TWO WORDS SAID OKAY ALL RIGHT THEN IS A BIG STATE THE FIRST STATE YES STATE. IS THE BIGGEST THING.

I'M GOING TO LET YOU ALL READ THE ORDINANCE IN THE FUTURE. OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION I NEED A SECOND. I'LL SECOND IT, MR. BARTHOLOMEW SECOND. ALL RIGHT ANY COMMENT ON THE MOTION? I MOVE TO A MAN. OKAY. THIS IS THE LEASE AGREEMENT THE BOOK TO WASHINGTON AND RECREATION CENTER MADAM CHAIR I MOVE VICE-CHAIR I MOVE TO AMEND PARAGRAPH 8.1 SECTION EIGHT OF TERMINATION OF THE BUDGET IN WASHINGTON LEASE AGREEMENT AND I'D LIKE LIKE THE MEMBER TO READ WELL BY ADDING THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE AS REQUESTED BY MR. YOUNG WHO IS THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THE RECREATION SITS ON AND HIS HERE'S WHAT I LIKE TO AMEND I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT THE TENANT SHALL FURTHER REMOVE ALL MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT THAT THE TENANT BROUGHT TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER PREMISES FOR THE OF OFFERING PROGRAMING OR INITIATIVES TO PUBLIC EXCLUSIVE OF IMPROVEMENTS MADE THE FACILITY UNDER PARAGRAPH 5.5 OF THIS AGREEMENT. ALL RIGHT WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT SO WE HAVE A SECOND. HE MADE THE AMENDMENT SECOND. OKAY.

YES. OKAY FOR THIS HOW YOU MAKE THE AMENDMENT SHE JUST SECONDED.

YES. MISS HOWARD, FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTION FOR MR. BESSON ALL RIGHT. OH YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. DO WE GET THAT? WE WOULD. I HEARD THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION. CAN WE JUST GET A BRIEF DISCUSSION IN ENGLISH? OH, OKAY. GO AHEAD.

ADJOURN. THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THIS MORNING AND WE ARE HAVING OUR LEGAL TEAM REVIEW THAT WE DO WHAT DOES IT WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

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THAT'S NOT FIXED TO THE PROPERTY AWAY FROM THERE. SO HE WANTS THE COMMUNITY CENTER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE BROUGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER TO BE OUT OF THERE OR THE FURNITURE, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IS NOT A FIXTURE TO THE PROPERTY.

YEAH OKAY THAT'S NOT UNREASONABLE OKAY. YEAH THAT IS CORRECT AND THAT WAS IN MR. YOUNG'S REQUEST. YES THERE WAS. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTION ON THAT ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT? OKAY.

NOW WE HAVE TO RETURN TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS AMENDED. AS AMENDED ALL IN FAVOR OF THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS AMENDED. OKAY. THANK YOU.

[16. 2025/15 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE YOUNG MEN’S SOCIAL CLUB AND SOUTH PINE LADIES UNION FOR A PORTION OF THE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 242 AND 228 SCOTT HILL ROAD]

WE HAVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE A READ IS MADE BY MR. GLOVER ALSO SECONDED MR. BARTHOLOMEW ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? I KNOW BROWN SPOKE TO US THE LAST TIME ABOUT IT. ALL RIGHT THEN WE'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

[17. 2025/16 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE DALE-LOBECO COMMUNITY CENTER FOR REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 15 COMMUNITY CENTER ROAD]

THANK YOU. ORDINANCE 2020 516 IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE DALE LOWE BIKO COMMUNITY CENTER FOR REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 15 COMMUNITY CENTER ROAD THE VOTED THE FIRST READING ON MARCH 10TH WAS 11 ZERO AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE APRIL 14TH. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS READ SO MORE MADAM CHAIR THANK YOU MR. DODSON THE SECOND OKAY YOU CAN ARGUE MR. WILL SECOND ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? MR. BROWN EXPLAIN THIS TO US THE LAST TIME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS ORDINANCE APPROVING THE ORDINANCE AS READ BY MR. MCGOWAN I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND GO UP. YOU WANT TO VOTE MR. BAKER YEAH.

THANK YOU. BUT YOU ASKING FOR DISCUSSION. SORRY.

[18. 2025/18 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP FOR 121.43 ACRES (R600 013 000 0008 0000, R600 013 000 0050 0000, R600 013 000 0105 0000, R600 013 000 0104 0000) LOCATED ON OKATIE HIGHWAY FROM T2 RURAL (T2R) TO T4 NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER (T4NC) AND T3 NEIGHBORHOOD- OPEN (T3N-O) USING A VILLAGE PLACE TYPE OVERLAY (PTO) (PUBLIC HEARING)]

IT WAS A MOTION POSTPONE TO MARCH 3RD WHICH WAS APPROVED ON MARCH 3RD NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE MEETING IT WAS A TO DENY THIS AMEND THIS APPROVAL AND IT WAS DENIED 6 TO 1 WITH ONE ABSTENTION. SO AT THIS POINT DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS READ? EXCUSE ME MISS MY CHAIR I NEED TO EXCUSE MYSELF.

OKAY. MISS BROWN IS GOING TO RECUSE HERSELF FROM THIS LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DISCUSS TO DISCUSS AND TO NORMALLY GO AND MAKE THE MOTION YOU CAN I MOVE THAT WE DENY THE REQUEST FOR REZONING FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS BUT LIKE TO HAVE JUST WANT TO DO

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CAN I HAVE A SECOND SECOND, MR. GLOVER? THANK YOU.

IT'S ON THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM THE I JUST THINK IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE THAT ALL THE PEOPLE KEEP SHOWING UP HERE TO LET US KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT AND THE OTHER COMMENTS. SO NOW MS. ELLIS, MISS HOWARD WILL I DO HAVE A I DO HAVE A COMMENT. YEAH. CONTRARY NOW IT IS NOT CONTRARY . I DO SUPPORT THE MOTION THAT'S BEFORE US.

I DO SUPPORT THAT I AM REALLY TOYING BETWEEN WHETHER IT'S PRUDENT RIGHT NOW FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DENIAL OR FOR US TO GET MORE INFORMATION IN.

THE REASON I'M ASKING SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THERE AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PROPERTY IT SHOULD BE FURTHER DISCUSSED THAT TO SEE WHETHER THERE IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE WORKED AND COUNTRY I MEAN I KEEP SAYING COUNTRY IS NOT COUNTRY WHEN YOU AT THIS COUNCIL AND YOU LOOK AT FUTURE COUNCILS IS IT BETTER TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROPERTY WITH COUNCIL OR LET IT BE DISCUSSED WITH A FUTURE? AND THAT'S WHERE I'M TALKING BECAUSE I DON'T I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE MANAGING THAT HIGHWAY 170 I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. I AGREE THAT THE THERE PROBABLY NEED TO BE A REFERENCE I MEAN A MORATORIUM ON DEVELOPMENT BUT I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER WE NEED TO REALLY JUST THINK THIS THING THROUGH TO SEE WHETHER SOMETHING CAN BE I THINK THE THAT MR. SUTTER USED WAS I WANT TO GET HIS WORD CORRECTLY HE HE DIDN'T SAY SMART GROWTH HE USED RESPONSIBLE RESPONSIBLE GROWTH AND I'M JUST WONDERING THAT PROPERTY IS THERE IS 121 ACRES UNLESS IS PURCHASE THROUGH THE GREENSPACE IS TO KEEP IT THAT WAY I THINK I WOULD PREFER TALKING IN DISCUSSING THIS PROPERTY WITH THIS COUNCIL VERSUS A FUTURE COUNCIL THAT'S MY OR AT LEAST AGREE WITH ME THAT'S GREAT BUT THAT'S WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW. YEAH.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO COMMENT? FEEL FREE OR YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GET A PRESENTATION ON IT? I MEAN IT WAS DONE AT COMMITTEE THE FIRST READING BUT IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING SO YES BUT THE MOTION ON THE IS TO DENY THE ORDINANCE. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION, HAVE A COMMENT OH, GO AHEAD MR. DARLING. YEAH, I'LL VOTE TONIGHT THE NEW ORDINANCE I SUPPORT THAT POSITION. I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S HAD PLENTY TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND IF THEY HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT BY NOW TOO BAD THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S SUDDENLY SPRUNG ON.

EVERYBODY HAS KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE COMMUNITY TO IT IS VERY STRONG AND IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE IN THE FUTURE THERE'S NO REASON WHY IT CAN'T COME BACK FOR A REVISIT. BUT I DON'T WE NEED TO DELAY THE TO ORDER A MESSAGE TO VOTE ON THIS AND GET IT DONE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. I WHEN I GO THROUGH THE REASONS WE ALL REALIZE THERE'S PROPERTY NEEDED FOR SCHOOLS IN THE BLUFFTON AREA BUT THAT DOESN'T BUY US DENYING THIS IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE PRECLUDE THAT FROM HAPPENING BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE LANDOWNER IN THIS AREA. OKAY, MR. LAWSON YES.

I MEAN OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE SEES WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH WITH BLUFFTON, THE OKATIE AREA THEN EVEN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY THAT WOULD MR. I TALKED TO THAT EARLIER THIS EVENING OF OF THINGS EXPLODING AND GROWING. SO WHEN IT COMES TO UP ZONING I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING RIGHT NOW THAT I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HERE HAVE A TASTE FOR THAT NOW OBVIOUSLY I'M A PROPERTY PERSON AND THEY CAN THEY CAN DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY.

COURTNEY WHAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED BUT FOR US TO TO LOOK AT ADDING UNITS AND ADDING UP ZONING TO THIS AT THIS TIME I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT IN THE BLUFFTON AREA.

I THINK THAT MOST OF THE REST OF THE COUNTY AND THE CITIZENS FEEL THE SAME WAY AND I THINK MR. LAWSON MAKES A GOOD POINT WITH THEY HAVE RIGHTS TO BUILD THE WAY IT'S ZONED NOW SO THAT STILL CORRECT? YES. WELL YES IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OTHER THAN COME ON UP, IT'S YOUR TURN IT'S POLICE BELIEVE

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THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING PREVENTING HIM FROM DOING THAT. THANK YOU MR. LAWSON BUT HE'S GOT A PRICE TAG ON IT THAT MR. SCHWARTZ CANNOT DEVELOP BECAUSE IT'S PRICED AS A T FOR AN 8392 R TO ME THAT'S SIGNIFICANT TO HOW YOU VOTE IN HOW LOOK AT PROPERTY VALUE AND PROPERTY RIGHTS IN THE FACE OF THE RIGHTS OF SEVERAL COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE CONSISTENTLY BEEN HERE FOR TWO YEARS. AND WE THANK YOU. IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY ELSE AND THEN THESE GUYS GO AHEAD AND AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE CONCERNED, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS KIND LOOKED INTO THAT BUT THEY OBTAINED IT FOR A REAL, REAL GOOD AND THEY'RE PAYING FARMING TAXES WHICH ARE UNDER $300 A YEAR ON ALL OF THAT.

THANK YOU. I'M NOT DOING ANOTHER COMMENT COMING UP STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE. DIDN'T COUNCIL MEMBERS MY DAN KEEFER WITMER JAMES KEEFER THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS EVENING WITH ME THIS EVENING IS MR. RICHARD SWARTZ MR. ROBERT ADDING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DYLAN TURNER HE'S A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

HE'S GOING TO SPEAK BRIEFLY. I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE BUT WE'LL WE'LL GO QUICK AND WALTER, I WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF SORT OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

WE MET WITH ROB MERCHANT WITH HIS STAFF ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND.

WE WE HAD A COUPLE OF OPTIONS ON THE TABLE AND WE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN FRONT OF US AND WE SORT OF LOOKED AT THE VILLAGE PLACE TYPE AS THE BEST OPTION FOR THE PROPERTY IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND, LOOKING AT TRAFFIC, LOOKING AT ENVIRONMENT, LOOKING ALL THE CRITERIA THAT GOES INTO THE LONG TERM PLANNING WE WERE LUCKY TO FIND THE VILLAGE PLACE TYPE GUIDANCE THE IN THE CODE AND IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO WE LOOKED AT THAT AS OUR GUIDE MOVING FORWARD AND SO WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AS AN OPTION AND I KNOW A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION IN THAT SUBMITTAL WASN'T PRESENTED SORT OF FORMALLY TO TO COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL IN TERMS OF OPEN SPACE PLANS AND IT'S IT'S ESSENTIALLY A ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THAT PROPERTY AND THE RESULT OF THE VILLAGE PLACE TYPE IS A DOCUMENT THAT GUIDES THAT PROPERTY VERY DETAILED IT'S NOT THIS ISN'T A REZONING JUST FOR PROPERTY. THIS IS A A DETAILED PLAN LONG PLAN FOR THAT PROPERTY THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S A COMMITMENT FOR THE LANDOWNER AND THE COUNTY.

SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT THAT WE APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO WORK WITH ROB AND AND STAFF ON THE VILLAGE PLACE TYPE ROB'S THE STAFF SENT A STAFF REPORT ON SEPTEMBER 2620 24 THAT WAS OUR FIRST PLAN MEETING WITH WITH PLANNING AT THAT TIME STAFF HAD 100% SUPPORT OF OF THE PROJECT THEY SUPPORTED THE PROJECT THEY HAD SOME CONDITIONS WE WENT BACK AND ADDRESSED THOSE CONDITIONS WHICH I WON'T GO THROUGH THAT THAT LIST AND AFTER THE OCTOBER COMMISSION MEETING WE LOOKED AT DENSITIES WE THE RESIDENTIAL SOME RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES OFF A CONVERSION ALLOWANCE WE REDUCED THAT THE COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT THERE WAS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS FROM LAST MONTH'S MEETING NATURAL RESOURCE MEETING ITEM TWO FROM THE REZONING REQUEST THE STATEMENT IS IS IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH ANY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE ONE POTENTIAL CONFLICT WAS THE T THREE AND OH AND T THREE AND OH JUST EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THE THE O WAS ASSIGNED TO THE SCHOOL AND THE REASON WE DID THAT WAS THAT T3N0 ALLOWS THE SCHOOL USE SO AND WHAT WE PRESENTED AT THAT PLANNING COMMISSION AND AT THE THE

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SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT ITEM TO ON THE REZONING REQUEST WE'RE REALLY NOT IN CONFLICT OF BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THAT ADDRESSED WITH WITH THE END O AND HIS TERM AND IN TERMS OF THE THE SCHOOL USE SO I THINK DYLAN'S GOING TO GO. MR. ROBERT THANK YOU.

YES. FROM OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. YES, THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR A BRIEF MOMENT IN FRONT OF YOU JUST TO LET KNOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S INTEREST HERE OF COURSE WE HAVE A PROPERTY ON 170 AS YOU ALL SPOKE OF EARLIER THAT DUE TO ITS SIZE AND OTHER CONDITIONS HAS LITTLE USE FOR US AND WE DO NOT HAVE A PLAN FOR IT AT THIS TIME AND THIS AGREEMENT ALLOWS US TO DO IS SWAP IT FOR A PARCEL FURTHER AWAY FROM 170 THAT'S LARGER LITTLE OVER 30 ACRES SUITABLE FOR A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND SO THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE'D LOOK FOR THE OTHER SIDE OF IT AS WELL IS THAT THE ZONING IS FOR THE EXISTING SCHOOL BECAUSE THE EXISTING ZONED ZONING WOULD NOT ALLOW THE SCHOOL THERE IT IS. SO THAT'S JUST TO CLEAR THAT UP AS THAT SCHOOL DEVELOPED EARLY ON IN 2004 THIS KIND OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO COME AROUND IT AND THAT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING AT THIS TIME IT'S JUST SCHOOL GOT THERE FIRST SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE SOME TIME AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE WHY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS INVOLVED WITH THIS SO THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT IT EVENING DYLAN TURNER CAN WE HORN TRAFFIC FOR THE PROJECT JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A TRAFFIC OVER BRIEFING BRIEFING ON THIS ONE SO THIS SITE AND THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS SITE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO TEAM WITH COUNTY ON THE WIDENING OF CHERRY POINT. SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS.

SO FIRST THE DEVELOPER WILL GO IN AND WIDEN CHERRY POINT SO IT'S NOT WAITING FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. IT'S ACTUALLY THE EXISTING MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT'S THERE WHERE THOSE CUES BACK OUT ON CHERRY POINT ROAD AND ONTO 170 CREATING A PRETTY DANGEROUS CONDITION IN THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE WIDENING.

CHERRY POINT TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL RECEIVING LANE ON CHERRY POINT TO HELP WITH THAT MORNING Q AND AFTERNOON Q OF THE PICK UP AND DROP OFF OF THE SCHOOL OTHER THINGS IS THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS UP FRONT SO ARE THERE FAILING INTERSECTIONS THERE ARE THE BUT ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT LOOKS AT TAKES IT FROM AN F TO AN E SO WE'RE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS ANOTHER INTERSECTION THAT'S FAILING CHERRY POINT 170 IN THE NO BUILD SO THAT'S WITHOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT IT'S A DEVELOPMENT THE AREA IT FAILS BUT WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS SUGGESTED IT TAKES OVER 40 SECONDS OF DELAY AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION SO WHILE THERE IS A LACK OF CAPACITY ON WHEN 70 NOW IF NOTHING IS DONE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS COMING IN AND IMPROVING CONDITIONS ANOTHER THING THAT I'LL SAY TO THE RIVERWALK SIGNAL THAT'S ON THE ONE 7070 CORRIDOR PLAN THAT WAS DENIED RECENTLY BUT COULD COME BACK UP IT AT SOME POINT. SO THIS DEVELOPMENT WE'RE PUTTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH THEN BE SAVING THE COUNTY MONEY ON THAT PLAN BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE PUTTING IN THE SIGNAL THAT'S ON THAT FUTURE PLAN THAT'S NOT THERE NOW.

SO A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING IN WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT HONESTLY IT'S IN THE MILLIONS OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COULD BE GOING INTO THIS WOULD BE TAKING ON WITH THE WIDENING OF ROAD TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS WIDENING OF OF 174 TURN LANES, NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING IN TO INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT GOING IN TO HELP WITH THOSE TRAFFIC ISSUES. SO THE CONCERN THAT I THINK THAT WE SHARE IS THE IF NOTHING IS DONE ON 170 THAT THOSE CONDITIONS WOULD BE WORSE THAN WITHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT WHICH I KNOW SOUNDS KIND OF CRAZY BUT WITH THE TURN LANES AND IMPROVEMENTS AND ADDITIONAL SIGNALS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT BE ADDING IN THE WIDENING OF CHERRY POINT, THERE'S ACTUALLY CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT WITH IT BUT WITH THAT TAKES QUITE A BIT OF MONEY UPFRONT THE DEVELOPER AND THEY'RE PARTNERING WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL ON THAT. ANOTHER THING THAT HEARD FROM THE THE PUBLIC TONIGHT IS THE TRAFFIC ON SO MANY OF THE TRAFFIC ON 70.

THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO TAKE TRAFFIC AWAY FROM 170 NO LONGER DO YOU HAVE TO TURN TO GO NORTH TOWARDS BEAUFORT TO THE NEW PUBLIX THERE OR SOUTH YOU KNOW TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE IN BLUFFTON. YOU'RE HERE LOCALLY, YOU'RE

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AND SO WHEN GO TO THOSE MAPS WE SEE WHAT THE FUTURE WHAT WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THE COUNCIL APPROVED FOR THAT PROPERTY IS THE PLACE TYPE OVERLAY AND SO THAT'S TWO YEARS WORTH OF EFFORT TO TRYING TO GET APPROVAL TO IMPLEMENT WHAT COUNTY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED AND THAT IS THE PLACE TYPE OVERLAY.

WE CAN GO TO STAFF AND WE CAN TALK TO STAFF AND SAY STAFF WHAT DO YOU THINK COUNCIL'S GOING TO APPROVE THERE? AND STAFF SAYS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING MAPS AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN DO ON THAT PROPERTY AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE EXPENDITURE HAS BEEN AND THAT'S WHAT THE EFFORTS HAVE BEEN FOR THIS LANDOWNER.

IN ADDITION IN RESPONSE TO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN POSED DURING THESE HEARINGS, THE APPLICANT SUGGESTED A DEVELOPMENT AND A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS A LAWFUL TOOL. IT MENTIONED TONIGHT FOR CHEROKEE FARMS THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED THERE AND SO IT IS A TOOL AND IT'S A TOOL THAT CAN PROTECT THOSE THINGS THAT COUNCIL'S CONCERNED ABOUT AND SOME OF THE CITIZENS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TYPE OF USES THAT CAN BE RESTRICTED BY DEED RESTRICTIONS AND ENSURING THAT A SCHOOL OR SIMILAR USE CAN BE USED FOR THAT SCHOOL PROPERTY.

THAT'S WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CAN DO AND THAT'S THAT'S THE TOOL THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN USE TO PROTECT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY IN A MANNER AND WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND DESIRES OF THIS COUNCIL. AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. THANK THANK YOU, MR. NESTOR HELLO.

MY NAME'S RICHARD. I AM THE APPLICANT FOR THE REZONING AND I'VE TALKED A LOT OF YOU ABOUT THIS. I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU'RE GIVEN ME.

I AGREE WITH MR. GLOVER THAT COUNCILMAN GLOVER THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS TODAY AND NOT KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD. WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS IN A LOT OF WAYS THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT BUT I'M THE CONTRACT OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.

I AM NOT OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WORKING TOGETHER AND TRYING TO WORK WITH ME AS OPPOSED THE FUTURE IS WILL PREVENT ANOTHER PEPPER HALL.

THE ISSUE IS THAT THE HOMEOWNER THE LANDOWNER HAS VERY LITTLE BASIS IN IT HE WILL WAIT A CHANGE YOU HE WILL WAIT IF HE SEE IF HE CAN ANNEX JASPER COUNTY HE WILL FIND A WAY TO PACK IT WITH DENSITY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE IT IS A VERY VALUABLE PIECE IT'S THE LARGEST TRACK LEFT IN SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY NEXT TO A SCHOOL THERE ARE GOING TO BE OPPORTUNITY OPPORTUNISTS LIKE MYSELF ALONG AND SAY HERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO LOOK AT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COME IN FRONT OF YOU. I WANT TO START A MINUTE WITH MY JOURNEY WHEN I SAW THIS OPPORTUNITY I SAID YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE COULD USE THE VILLAGE TYPE PLANNING AND APPLY IT AS IS TO A LARGE TRACK IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. I KNOW THE ONE THAT CAME BEFORE YOU FELT OR DIDN'T GO THROUGH IT WAS IT WAS A STAFF APPROVED 417 UNIT PRESENTATION THAT WAS PUT IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU

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I UNDERSTAND MY WHOLE I HAVE WORKED WITH BOTH SIDES TO PROGRESS THINGS.

I THINK I CAN I CAN GET THIS DONE. I CAN WORK BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND MAKE SURE FIRST THING I DID WAS TAKE THAT PLAN TO THE HOMEOWNERS AND WE MET AT FELICIA'S HOUSE AND BOTH SIDES WERE THERE AND I SAID HEY HERE HERE'S A PRETTY GOOD PLAN.

YOU KNOW, IT MEETS THE OVERLAID DISTRICT. IT MEETS EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT. WHY DON'T YOU LIKE IT? AND THEY SAID WELL, WE HATE THE DENSITY. WE HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. I SAID OKAY, WELL THAT'S GOING TO BE SOME TROUBLE SO. I CAME A SECOND TIME AND. I BROUGHT SOME ADVOCATES ABOUT HOW TRAFFIC'S GOING TO BE IMPROVED. EVERYONE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ON 170 WE REDUCED THE DENSITY ON THE PLAN. WE CHANGED A FEW AND AGAIN TOO MUCH DENSITY TOO MUCH TRAFFIC CAME A THIRD TIME BUT BEFORE I DID THAT I WENT AND TALKED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND I SAID TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HOW ABOUT A SWAP HERE OR HOW CAN WE WORK SOMETHING OUT? AND THEY TOOK 40 OVER 40% OF THE LAND OF THE OF THE NICEST PART OF THE LAND BUT NEXT TO THE RESIDENTS BY THE RIVER AND THIS IS A GREAT SOLUTION I THOUGHT WE'RE MEETING THE PEOPLE BY THE RIVER GOING TO HAVE OPEN SPACE.

THEY BUILD A MIDDLE SCHOOL OR CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT CENTER WHERE REDUCED EVERYTHING.

THEN I ASKED THE RESIDENTS WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO FOR YOU AT SOME POINT WE HAD SOME GOOD SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT THOUGH TODAY THEY WERE UP HERE AND OTHER MEETINGS THEY WERE UP HERE TELLING YOU AND THEY ASKED FOR A BUNCH OF RESTRICTIONS WHICH WE SAID SURE THEY SAID WE DON'T WANT WE WANT DENSITY GET IT DOWN. WE BROUGHT IT TO 258 MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS. THE ZONING WE'RE ASKING ALLOWS SOMETHING LIKE 564 IF IT WERE TO BE UP ZONED. SO WE BROUGHT IT DOWN TO 258 THEY SAID WE DON'T WANT ANY RESIDENCES ONLY MULTIFAMILY. WE SAID OKAY WE DON'T WANT ANY HOTELS.

OKAY WE DON'T WANT ANY GAS STATIONS, NO PARKERS. OKAY WE WANT A 75 FOOT BUFFER ALONG OR HOUSES BY THE RIVER WHICH THAT'S MOST OF THEM WHO SPOKE HERE TODAY.

OKAY. THAT WORKS FOR ME. SO WE HAVE CONTINUED WE HAVE NOT SAID NO TO ANY REQUEST BUT THE POINT IS WE'RE HERE, WE'RE FLEXIBLE AND THIS THE TIME TO WORK ON THIS TOGETHER I WOULD THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT INSTEAD OF DENYING IT BECAUSE IF YOU KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD IT TOOK ABOUT 12 TO 15 YEARS TO GET PEPPER HALL APPROVED BUT THAT 680 UNITS ON 70 SOMETHING ACRES YOU DON'T NEED TO DO. WE HAVE GREAT STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER NOW SO WHY NOT WORK TOGETHER NOW? NOW EVERYBODY IS. I'VE MET INDIVIDUALLY WITH SOME OF YOU I'VE TALKED TO A OF YOU I'VE REALLY TALKED TO STAFF I'VE SAID I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS IS A SOLUTION THAT IT'S REDUCED IT MEETS THE COUNTY'S NEEDS IT MEETS EVERYBODY'S NEEDS.

WHY IS THERE STILL NO WELL IT'S THE TRAFFIC ON 170 THAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.

WE DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION. I WILL TELL YOU IN TALKING WITH YOU ALL YOU ALL NOT AGREE ON THE SOLUTION OF HOW TO GET TO 170 BUT YOU AS A COUNCIL CERTAINLY AGREE YOU'RE TO GET IT DONE YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AND FROM THE WORDS OF POLICE IT'S A GOOD PLAN BUT THE TIME IS NOT RIGHT RIGHT NOW IT IS A GOOD PLAN BECAUSE IT MAXIMIZE ANYTHING WRONG THAT IT DOESN'T MAXIMIZE ANYTHING. IT TAKES EVERYTHING IN MODERATION WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT SHOWS WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THIS DONE I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A CONTINGENCY TO THIS PROPOSAL I AM SEEKING THAT YOU ALL APPROVE THIS PLAN BUT HOW ABOUT WE DON'T START CONSTRUCTION UNTIL YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION I 170 SO THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND SOMEONE HASN'T ASKED FOR ANYTHING AND WE CAN KEEP WORKING TOGETHER BUT WE DON'T START UNTIL YOU FIGURE IT OUT.

YOUR FUNDING SOLUTION AND YOUR PLAN FORWARD ON THE 170 TRAFFIC THANK YOU MR. MERCHANT.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION PLEASE IF YOU'VE COME UP I'M READING THE AIR AND.

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YES, THE COUNTIES ACCEPTED THE LEVEL OF CERTAIN LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARD IS D AND THAT INTERSECTION IS I THINK IT A YEAR F AND YOU SAID IT WAS A HALF AT AN F.

YES. SO KNOW WHEN WE LOOK AT YOU KNOW THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS ANALYSIS LOOKED AT EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THEY LOOK AT PROJECTED CONDITIONS IN THE FUTURE AND THE CURRENT CONDITIONS THAT INTERSECTION IS FAILING AND AND I THINK HE MENTIONED THAT THEY COULD BRING IT UP TO AN E E YEAH WITH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER SAID THAT EARLIER OKAY THE PUBLIC HEARING PART BEFORE WE HAD FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM STAFF.

YEAH OKAY OTHER FROM THE PUBLIC FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING COMING UP I THANK YOU GUYS SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUST GOT TALKED ABOUT ALL OVER AGAIN, RIGHT IS IS PROPERTY RIGHTS AND AND WE'RE HEARING A LOT THAT THIS OWNER HAS RIGHTS. RIGHT.

BUT LIKE WHAT ABOUT THE 800 HOMES BETWEEN MORELAND BLUFF AND RIVER OAKS AND CHERRY POINT? WHEN WE BOUGHT INTO THOSE AGREEMENTS? RIGHT. WE DID OUR HOMEWORK. WE LOOKED AT THE ZONING, WE ASKED THE QUESTIONS WHAT IS THE ZONING FRONT OF MOUND BLOCK? WHAT IS THE ZONING ON THAT PARCEL? WHAT IS THE ZONING FRONT OF THAT PARCEL? RIGHT. EVERYTHING WAS UP ZONED FROM WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE. MOUND BLUFF WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AS BIG AS IT CURRENTLY IS AND WE'RE ALL ON TOP OF EACH OTHER RIVER WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE AS BIG AS IT IS AND THEY'RE ALL ON TOP OF EACH OTHER SO WE ALREADY HAVE DENSITY THAT ALREADY EXISTS.

WE'RE SAYING PLEASE NO MORE. IT CAN'T LIKE YOU KNOW IT GET BETTER WITH THIS PLAN AND THE CONCEPT OF US NOT TAKING TRIPS OUT ONTO 170 BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET A GROCERY STORE IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE'RE ALL BEING HONEST WITH OURSELVES.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S A GROCERY STORE GOING DOWN FOR THE ARGENT PROJECT WHICH IS 10,000 HOMES ACROSS. IT'S IT'S THE MULTI PLAN, RIGHT? IT'S THE APARTMENTS TOWNHOMES, CONDOS, SINGLE FAMILY ETC. THAT PROJECT HASN'T STARTED THERE ARE SO MANY PROJECTS NOT JUST IN BEAUFORT COUNTY BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO CARE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN JASPER COUNTY ACROSS THE TWO THERE IS SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING TO THAT AREA WE CAN'T JUST THINK A SILO. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS. I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE LIKED THIS PLAN AT ONE POINT IN TIME IT DIDN'T GET DONE. WE PEOPLE FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM SAY TODAY LET'S THINK ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF THE COLLECTIVE LET'S SIT DOWN JUST SAYING OH WE'LL SWAP ONE PIECE OF LAND AND MAYBE WE'LL PUT A SCHOOL. TO ME DOES NOT FEEL LIKE SITTING DOWN AND HAVING A CONSTRUCTIVE DECISION ABOUT WHAT IS THE BEST PLACE TO PUT THE SCHOOL WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT THE SCHOOLS? WHO'S GOING TO GO TO THEM ALL THAT I THINK WHAT WE'RE REALLY ASKING YOU IS LIKE WE WANT TO SLOW DOWN, WE WANT TO STOP.

WE WANT TO LET YOU GUYS DO THE PLANNING THE RIGHT WAY. I DON'T FEEL LIKE TO A CERTAIN DEGREE ASKING YOU TO JUST KEEP PUSHING FORWARD AND SAYING WE'LL JUST KEEP HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT, WE'LL JUST GET THERE EVENTUALLY. THAT JUST FEELS TO ME LIKE A LOT OF PRESSURE ON YOU GUYS AND NOT HEARING ANY OF US SO YES WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WE WERE TRYING BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD TIME AND TIME AGAIN GUESS WE'RE NOT GOING AWAY.

YOU WILL HAVE APARTMENTS. YOU WILL HAVE THIS STUFF ON TOP OF YOU.

SO YES, RESIDENTS AT SOME POINT LIKE I GUESS WE GOT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE TERRIFIED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A THOUSAND APARTMENTS SO MAYBE WE'LL HAVE TO DO 250 BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE CONVERSATION WE ALL BE HAVING. WE ALL PAY TAXES HERE.

WE ALL LIVE HERE. WE SHOULD BE HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST US DIRECTLY IMPACTED WHAT IS BEST FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK.

ANYBODY ELSE I THANK FOR THE SPEAK AGAIN ALONG WITH WINGING IT.

I LIKE IDIOMS SO THE VILLAGE TYPE OVERLAY IS LIKE A HAMMER AND WHEN YOU'RE USING HAMMER EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE A NAIL. SO I THINK AS PER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN OUR AREA OF OKAY THE PLAN STATES THAT THIS SHOULD REMAIN RURAL THAT IS THE TARGET OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THERE IS A CARVE TO USE THE VILLAGE TYPE OVERLAY IF APPLICABLE AND IF IT

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I DID ALSO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. SWARTZ ABOUT SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS ,THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND I MADE IT VERY CLEAR THE MULTIPLE TIMES WE HAD DISCUSSED IT THAT THOSE WERE OUR NON ISSUES, THOSE WERE THE BEGINNINGS TO HAVE A LEGITIMATE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WOULD WORK THAT AREA, WHAT COULD WORK FOR THAT AREA TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE TO DO PROPER PLANNING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT DELIVERS ON WHAT IS BEING PROMISED. I HEAR ABOUT GROCERY STORES, I HEAR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT COFFEE . YOU GO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMERCIAL SPACE IS BEING DEVELOPED. IT'S KIND OF A MIXED BAG OF WHAT COMMERCIAL SPACE YOU GET UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE THIS IS STILL IN THE PLANNING STAGE AND I TALKED TO MR. SWARTZ ABOUT THIS AS WELL IT IS REALLY UP IN THE AIR OF WHAT IS GOING TO GO IN THERE.

WE HAVE SOME COMMITMENTS ON COMMERCIAL FOOTAGE. WE'VE GOT SOME COMMITMENTS ON APARTMENT DENSITY. WE'VE GOT A SOFT COMMITMENT FOR THE SCHOOL AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD THE SCHOOL BOARD I FORGOT HIS NAME BUT WE HAD COMMENTS ON A MIDDLE SCHOOL COULD BE HERE AN EARLY DEVELOPMENT CENTER LEARNING CENTER COULD BE HERE THERE'S NO COMMITMENT THERE'S NO CONFIRMATION OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE HERE. THIS IS A LAND SWAP FOR VALUABLE PIECE OF LAND THAT THESE SCHOOL BOARD MAY OR MAY NOT USE.

AND I'M ALL FOR LAND BANKING. I THINK IT'S A SMART MOVE I REALLY DO BUT AT BEHEST OF THE COMMUNITIES AND AT THE IMPACT THAT THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON THIS SPECIFIC AREA THAT'S A PROBLEM AND AS YOU KNOW ON 170 WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC. THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY OUT OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

IT'S LANDLOCKED. THERE'S TWO ROADS OUT OF MAINLAND BLUFF.

THERE ARE FOUR OR 500 FEET APART AND I'VE GOT TO CROSS FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC TO TAKE A LEFT EYE BECAUSE OF RIVER OAKS I'M ALLOWED TO DRIVE THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD NOW AND I CAN GET INTO A LIGHT SO I CAN MAKE A LEFT TURN DURING RUSH HOUR IF I REALLY NEED TO GET DOWN TOWARDS THE ISLAND OR SAVANNAH. BUT IT'S TOUGH AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ME FROM AN F TO AN E AND YOU'RE REALLY JUST KIND OF HITTING NEUTRAL BECAUSE YOU'RE ADDING SO MUCH DENSITY AND SO MUCH MORE TO THE AREA I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS WORTH ALL OF THE INVESTMENT, ALL OF THE ENERGY AND TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND ALL THE NEGATIVES TO DOING THIS KIND OF PLAN. AND THEN I HEARD SOME COMMENTARY ON THE FUTURE. WE'VE HEARD THIS TIMES THIS IS THE LAST SIZABLE TRACT OF LAND IN THE AREA WHAT DOES THE COUNTY NEED? I UNDERSTAND THAT THE HOMEOWNER AS MR. SWARTZ IS THE APPLICANT BUT THE OWNER AS WRITES AND WANTS TO SELL THIS PROPERTY IS LOOKING TO GET AS BIG OF A RETURN AS THEY CAN. CAN'T FAULT HIM FOR THAT BUT WHAT IS USEFUL FOR THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE IS IT APARTMENTS? NO.

I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT APARTMENTS ARE THE USEFUL THING.

A COUNTY SPORTS COMPLEX THROUGH THE GREENSPACE PROGRAM I BROUGHT THAT UP LAST YEAR.

I THINK THAT COULD BE A VERY INTERESTING THING TO EXPLORE. I BROUGHT IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WHAT IF THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTED DIRECTLY PURCHASED IT AND THEY COULD TURN THAT AREA INTO A SCHOOL CAMPUS? NOT ONLY COULD YOU HAVE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL EARLY LEARNING CENTER, A MIDDLE SCHOOL HIGH SCHOOL YOU'D HAVE ENOUGH ACREAGE TO HAVE AN ENTIRE COUNTY CAMPUS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO I THINK AS A RESULT OF MAYBE THAT AFTER ACTION REVIEW THAT WE HEARD ABOUT EARLIER TODAY MAYBE, THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL COULD MAKE.

I STILL DO BELIEVE IT'S PRUDENT TO DENY THIS TODAY WE WILL TAKE OUR CHANCES IF IT COMES BEFORE ANOTHER COUNTY COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE I WILL BE HERE FOR A VERY LONG AND I WILL BE HERE TO TALK EVERY TIME IT COMES UP AS AS I'M IN THE STATE OR RESIDENT OF THE COUNTY I SHOULD SAY THAT'S THE ACTUAL ANSWER. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION TO EXTEND OUR TIME BECAUSE. IT'S COMING UP TO 8:00 SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT MR. LIKE A TO A SECOND THAT MR. REED WILL SECOND ALL IN FAVOR TO EXTEND OUR MEETING TIME OKAY. THANK YOU MR. MCMULLEN. I ALWAYS LOOK ALL RIGHT WE ARE EXTENDED. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLOSE OUT PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS I HAVE A QUESTION. I'VE HEARD IT THROWN AROUND A COUPLE OF TIMES DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN THE PACKET IN THE BACK OF MATERIAL . I DON'T EITHER.

MR. MERCHANT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY I DIDN'T THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST THINKING. MY UNDERSTANDING IS EVEN IF WE IF WE THE UP ZONE THEY CAN ESSENTIALLY MAKE ALL THE PROMISES THEY WANT UP HERE BUT WITHOUT ANY CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANYTHING WHERE THEY'RE NOT BOUND BY THEIR STATEMENT.

YES. SO YOU KNOW, IF COUNCIL DECIDED YOU KNOW, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHEN THE THE MOSAIC PROJECT CAME FORWARD KNOW YOU COULD EITHER APPROVE IT AS IS WHICH

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THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO THAT REQUEST AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT GUARANTEES THE OUTCOME. SO IF YOU OWN A PIECE OF PROPERTY WHATEVER IS ALLOWED IN THAT ZONE DISTRICT IS PERIOD IF YOU COUPLE THAT WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT YOU START LIMITING THE OUTCOME FOR THAT PROPERTY SPECIFIC TO THAT SITE. SO IT'S THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD AND NOT YOU KNOW YOU'RE YOU'RE GETTING ANSWER LATER AND IT'S THEY'RE TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE THINGS I DON'T SEE IN THE SEPARATE I THINK THE APPROVAL OF THE UP ZONE IS TIED TO ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE CONDITIONS PLACED ON IT. SO RIGHT WHAT I'M I GUESS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS IN SOUTH CAROLINA YOU CANNOT DO CONDITIONAL UP ZONING.

YOU CAN'T SAY WILL UP ZONING IF ONLY YOU HAVE SAY WE WILL UP ZONE IT BUT WE WILL ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR THE USE OF THAT PROPERTY. IT WAS THE SAME THING BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME THING RIGHT? IT'S JUST NOT BECAUSE IF YOU UP ZONE IT NOPE WELL IF YOU UP ZONE IT NO MATTER WHAT PROMISES ARE MADE EVERYBODY COULD WALK OUT OF THE ROOM AND WHATEVER IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT ON THAT SITE TOMORROW THEY CAN DO IT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS WHAT IT IS. SO IF COUNTY COUNCIL TO ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR ENTERTAIN THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE THAN WELCOME TO DO THAT AND BRIAN CAN SPEAK TO THAT PROCESS IF YOU'D LIKE HIM TO DO THAT BUT I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY IT'S NOT IN THE BACK NO I APPRECIATE THAT BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A REALLY BACKWARDS PROCESS. NO, NO WE DON'T START THE NEGOTIATION UNLESS WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S INTENT ON COUNCIL TO AGREE TO AN UP ZONING AND IN THIS INDICATION FROM THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT COUNCIL GOING TO ENTERTAIN AN EP ZONING. SO IT'S A WASTE OF STAFF'S TIME TO NEGOTIATING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO OCCUR NOW IF THERE'S A VOTE IN FAVOR OF UP ZONING THEN WE SLOW DOWN THIS AND WE START THE NEGOTIATION WITH THEIR ATTORNEY AND THE DEVELOPER AND WORK OUT TERMS. SEE IF WE CAN REACH THE TERMS THAT WOULD BE AGREEABLE TO COUNCIL THAT THEY AGREE TO. BUT THERE'S NO SENSE DOING THAT UNLESS AND UNTIL THERE IS A INDICATION OF COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD PROCEED WITH THAT. SO WE HAVE TO GET AN INDICATION THAT IT'S WORTH OUR EFFORT BEFORE WE WOULD NEGOTIATE SOMETHING TO BRING IT TO YOU.

OTHERWISE WE'RE NEGOTIATING WITH NO WHAT COUNCIL WANTS BECAUSE WE KNOW OH I'M SORRY NO PUBLIC COMMENTS OVER BROWN COUNTY COUNCIL COMMENT ANYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL QUESTION ONE HERE YEAH I'M WOW WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE AND THE FIRST THING I WANT TO DO IS THANK EVERYBODY AGAIN FOR THE INPUT MR. SCHWARTZ I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE ON COUNCIL YOU'VE MET WITH. I APPRECIATE AND APPLAUD THE WORK YOU PUT INTO IT BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING EVERYBODY BACK TO THE BASICS. WHEN WE WERE ELECTED OUR FIRST

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WE'VE GOT TO START DOING WHAT PEOPLE WANT AND THAT'S AN ANYBODY ELSE AND GO AHEAD I'M.

THANK YOU KNOW NO LISTEN I JUST WANT I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO SAY THAT ANYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL QUESTION OR COMMENT MR. MCGOWAN NO, NO I'VE ALREADY SAID MY PIECE.

THANK THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTION.

THE IS TO DENY ORDINANCE 2225 SLASH 18 AND MS. HOWARD IS GOING TO THE REASONS TO SUPPORT THE DENIAL THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR I MOVE THAT WE DENY THE REQUEST FOR REZONING FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS IT IS IN CONFLICT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND OUR CODE AND OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. AND THE SECOND REASON IS IT WOULD NOT RESULT IN DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ADEQUATELY SERVED BY PUBLIC FACILITIES SUCH AS STREETS, POWER, WATER, SEWER, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, SOLID WASTE COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL SCHOOLS, PARKS, POLICE, FIRE IN MEDICAL FACILITIES. ALL RIGHT.

THOSE ARE THE REASONS TO DENY THE ORDINANCE. ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION TO, THE COMMENTS THAT MR. PHILLIPS MADE AS WELL THAT YOU CONSIDER STANDARD ONE AND STANDARD EIGHT IS FOR COUNCIL TO AGREE OR NOT JUST SO YOU'VE GIVEN THAT SOME THOUGHT YOU ONLY READ THOSE IT'S ONLY IF YOU AGREE WITH WHAT YOU IF YOU AGREE THEM YOU SHOULD READ THEM . I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THEM.

YOU SAID ONE IN EIGHT OKAY. ONE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE CONFERENCE OF CODE AND PURPOSES OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE NUMBER EIGHT IS WOULD NOT RESULT AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WATER AIR, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE, VEGETATION, WETLANDS THE NATURAL FUNCTIONS OF THE ENVIRONMENT.

HER COMMENT WAS THAT IT WOULD IT WOULD IT WOULD ALSO WITH WE SAID IT WOULD RESULT IN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WATER AIR NOISE, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE VEGETATION, WETLANDS AND THE NATURAL FUNCTIONING OF ENVIRONMENT.

I THINK NUMBER EIGHT WOULD BE IT WOULD RESULT AN ADVERSE IMPACT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE USING CRITERIA 1 TO 8 AND NINE TO DENY THE ZONING BUT ONE IS A POSITIVE INSTEAD OF IS NOT I'M NOT SURE I AGREE OR YEAH I'M NOT SURE I DON'T AGREE WITH PHYLLIS ON NUMBER ONE SO IT WOULD BE NUMBER TWO EIGHT AND NINE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO DENY ORDINANCE 2025 SLASH 18 FOR THE REASONS MISS HOWARD STATED EVERYONE THE MOTION I CAN ON HER. YEP A SECOND FOR THE CRITERIA MISS HOWARD LISTED A SECOND THAT ALL RIGHT MR. REED TO THE SECOND ALL RIGHT ALL IN FAVOR TO DENY ORDINANCE RAISE YOUR HAND. HEY, THE ORDINANCE IS DENIED. THANK YOU.

FIRST OF ALL. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO RESOLUTIONS.

IT'S ON YOU. THEY WANTS TO STAY. WE'VE GOT TWO RESOLUTIONS TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. YOU MADE IT THIS FAR YOU MIGHT WANT TO HEAR IT WON'T TAKE LONG WE OH YEAH. LET'S GET PAULA BACK IN HERE. PAULA BROWN OH THAT'S RIGHT.

LET HER COME BACK. WHERE IS SHE IF Y'ALL IF ANYONE CARES TO LEAVE WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR MISS BROWN TO COME BACK YOU'RE WELCOME TO THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT.

NOBODY MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. WELL, ONCE YOU'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE YOU AND YOU GET THE HANG OF IT I DON'T KNOW. IT SEEMED WEIRD TO ME TO BUT WHAT IS IT THE WELCOME BACK,

[19. 2025/12 RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ACCEPT A NATIONAL COASTAL RESILIENCE FUND GRANT AWARD FROM THE NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE FOUNDATION.]

MADAM CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GLOVER A SECOND I'LL SECOND IT. ANY DISCUSS QUESTIONS? WHY WOULDN'T AND WE WILL BE

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[20. 2025/16 RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING APRIL 2025 AS FAIR HOUSING MONTH]

ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION? I'M GLAD IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE APRIL YOU'RE RIGHT. YES, THAT'S APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. OF ALL IN FAVOR I MOTION ALL RIGHT THAT IS APPROVED RECOGNIZING IS 2025 FAIR HOUSING MONTH ALL RIGHT ANYTHING ELSE FOR COUNCIL LAST MINUTE ONE LAST MINUTE THING SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES SUMMER MEETING WE NEED TO LET OUR STAFF KNOW IF YOU PLAN ON ATTENDING PARKS. OKAY.

YEAH. OKAY. AUGUST 1ST WEEK OF AUGUST.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING IN SESSION.

BEFORE WE GO YES, SIR. JUST QUICKLY, ARE WE PLANNING ON HAVING THE HOUSING TRUST THE PRESENT TO US DOING SO APRIL 7TH I'LL GO TO OUR APRIL 7TH. YOU ARE CHAIRMAN OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. I BELIEVE WE MADE THE REQUEST FOR THEM TO BE ADDED ON APRIL 7TH. YOUR MEETING CHAIRMAN THEY'VE THEY'VE AGREED TO BE THERE ON THE SEVENTH. OKAY. SO JUST TO REITERATE THOUGH MR. IS THE LIAISON TO THE BEAUFORT HOUSING TRUST FUND. SO HE THAT'S HIS LIAISON RESPONSIBILITY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES IS THE COMMITTEE THAT IT GOES TO IT GOES RIGHT YEAH.

I'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE CHAIR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES .

HE AND I HAVE AGREED THAT YOU WILL ATTEMPT TO GET THAT ON THE AGENDA THE MEETING THAT YOU'LL TAKE CARE OF . I CAN DURN THANK YOU MOMENT SO

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.