[3. Adoption of the Agenda ]
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I'D LIKE TO JUST MAKE, UM, A MOTION THAT WE MOVE PUBLIC COMMENT NUMBER SIX, PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, TO, UH, NUMBER, I GUESS DOES MAKE OF A DIFFERENCE, UH, AFTER THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES, AFTER APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
UM, JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD, ARE YOU TRY, ARE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO IT TWICE OR JUST ONCE? SO ON MY AGENDA, THE, OH, UH, WE CAN DO IT TWICE.
WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT POINT.
AND AT THE END OF THE MEETING, I'LL ASK AGAIN IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO YOU WANNA ADD AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.
[4. Approval of the Minutes ]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, THE REGULAR MINUTES.ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
AND IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE WITH US TODAY WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UM, MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, NOT RELATED TO THE AGENDA ITEMS NOW, THEN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND NOT SEEING ANY, WE CAN MOVE ON.
BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, UM, OUR MEETINGS PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO ANYONE LISTENING OR HAS ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SAY IN THE FUTURE, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON NON AGENDA ITEMS PRIOR TO BEGINNING NEW BUSINESS.
MR. WILLIAMS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS PORTION? OKAY.
UM, AND THEN I'M GOING TO ALSO, BECAUSE THIS IS COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, MAKE A, UM, GENERAL PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT.
UM, MYSELF, LIKE MANY PEOPLE ON OUR ISLAND HAVE FOUND THAT, UM, OVERNIGHT OUR CARS ARE BEING BROKEN INTO MINE WAS LAST NIGHT.
AND SO PLEASE KEEP YOUR CARS LOCKED.
PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE VALUABLES OR GUNS IN YOUR CARS.
UM, AND IF THAT SHOULD HAPPEN TO YOU, PLEASE NOTIFY.
UM, IF YOU WANNA NOTIFY ME, PLEASE NOTIFY ME SO I CAN KNOW.
BUT, UM, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU CALL AND MAKE A REPORT AND GET A CASE NUMBER SO WE CAN TRACK WHAT'S HAPPENING ON OUR ISLAND AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT HOPEFULLY SOON.
[5.a. Consideration of a Resolution Adopting Home Matters, Town of Hilton HeadIsland Displacement Mitigation Support Plan - Missy Luick, Director ofPlanning ]
BUSINESS CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING HOME MATTERS TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND DISPLACEMENT MITIGATION SUPPORT PLAN, MISSY LUECK, WHO IS OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, WILL JOIN US FOR A PRESENTATION.I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR DISPLACEMENT MITIGATION SUPPORT PLAN.
UM, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE TOWN STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN IN STRATEGY NUMBER TWO, IMPLEMENT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING FRAMEWORK.
UH, LAST YEAR AT TOWN COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, UM, TOWN STAFF WERE DIRECTED TO CREATE A DISPLACEMENT MITIGATION AND SUPPORT PLAN.
SO THE MEMO OUTLINES, UM, A BROAD OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE DISPLACEMENT MITIGATION SUPPORT PLAN, UM, FUNCTIONS ARE.
UM, THE PLAN IN A NUTSHELL IS A COMMUNITY LED, UH, INITIATIVE THAT PROVIDES SUPPORT SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES THAT ARE FACING DISPLACEMENT ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
UM, IT ASSEMBLES A TEAM, UH, CALLED THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM, THAT'S LED BY SOME LEAD AGENCIES AS WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL ROSTER OF, UH, SUPPORT AGENCIES AS WELL.
UM, AND SO IT IS, UM, I LIKE TO THINK ABOUT IT, UH, AS, UH, LIKE, USE A SPORTS ANALOGY THAT, UM, IT'S LIKE WE CREATED THE, THE TEAM AND THE ROSTER AND THE PLAYBOOK.
UM, AND WE RAN SOME SCENARIO PLANNING WITH, THROUGH SOME, UM, WORKSHOPS THAT WE HELD WITH SOME OF THESE AGENCIES, UH, TO COME UP WITH THE RANGE OF SCENARIOS THAT, THAT WE COULD BE FACED WITH.
UH, AND, AND THEN WHAT RESOURCES OR NEEDS, UH, WOULD BE, UH, REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THOSE INDIVIDUALS OR FAMILIES, UH, FACING DISPLACEMENT.
ALSO, UM, A DISPLACEMENT SUPPORT PLAN IS SIMILAR TO EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLANNING OR DISASTER RESPONSE PLANNING.
UM, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE A PLAN WHEN YOU NEED TO ACTIVATE A PLAN.
UM, AND, AND THIS, THIS PLAN IS VERY SIMILAR
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TO THAT TYPE OF, UH, SCENARIO PLANNING.UM, AGAIN, IT IS ALL COMMUNITY LED AND COMMUNITY DRIVEN.
UM, AND IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UH, A LOT OF THESE AGENCIES, THEY ALREADY EXIST.
UM, ALL OF THESE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO, UM, INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EXIST.
BUT, UM, WITHOUT A COORDINATED EFFORT, THOSE INDIVIDUALS OR FAMILIES HAVE TO NAVIGATE, UH, ON THEIR OWN AND, AND TRY TO ASSEMBLE THOSE SUPPORT SERVICES THAT, THAT MAY BE REQUIRED.
UM, THIS CREATES A PLAYBOOK, UM, AND THOSE SUPPORT SERVICES CAN BE ACCESSED IN A MORE COORDINATED MANNER.
UM, WITH THIS PARTICULAR PLAN IN PLACE, UM, THE TOWN'S ROLE OVERALL, UM, IS TO BOTH, WE ASSEMBLED THE TEAM.
WE HAD THOSE SCENARIO PLANNING MEETINGS.
WE WORKED WITH OUR HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE, UM, AND A WORK GROUP OF THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE ON MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT VARIOUS SCENARIOS THAT COULD OCCUR, AND THEN WHAT KIND OF, UM, ACTIVATION COULD BE PUT IN PLACE, UH, THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THOSE THAT ARE FACING DISPLACEMENT.
AND I THINK TOO, IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS PLAN IS, AND, AND MOST OF US HAVE MOVED AT SOME POINT IN OUR LIVES, MAYBE, MAYBE HAVE MOVED MANY TIMES, UM, MOVING IN AND OF, IN, IN AND OF ITSELF IS, IS CHALLENGING.
UM, YOU HAVE TO PACK UP EVERY SINGLE BELONGING THAT YOU OWN, THROW IT IN A VAN OR A TRUCK, OR THE TRUNK OF YOUR CAR, AND, AND MOVE FROM A TO B.
UM, AND WHERE, UH, IT IS, IT IS MORE DIFFICULT IS WHEN THAT HAPPENS UNEXPECTEDLY.
UM, AND, UH, IN, IN POPULATIONS MAYBE WHO, UM, DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO NAVIGATE, UM, BOTH A CRISIS SITUATION, UM, AND NAVIGATING, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA LAND, UH, INDIVIDUALS MAY HAVE FAMILIES, MAY HAVE SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN, MAY BE ELDERLY.
UM, AND SO THIS PLAN PUTS INTO PLACE, UM, A SUPPORT NETWORK OR A WEB OF RESOURCES THAT COULD BE ACTIVATED TO ASSIST THEM.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND TOO THAT SOMETIMES INDIVIDUALS WHEN MET WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, A DISPLACEMENT THAT HAPPENS IN A SHORT TIME PERIOD, UH, THAT, THAT DIFFICULT DECISIONS ARE MADE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT I NEED A SECURITY DEPOSIT, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A DECISION MADE TO GET A HIGH INTEREST LOAN OR, UM, ONE OF THOSE ADVANCED PAYCHECK LOANS OR SELL AN ASSET LIKE A VEHICLE, AND THEN DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S DIFFICULT THEN TO, UM, GET TO WORK.
UH, SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF DECISIONS SOMETIMES THAT, UM, INDIVIDUALS ARE FACED WITH WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO NAVIGATE, HOW TO GET INTO ANOTHER HOME WHEN THEY'RE FACING A DISPLACEMENT EVENT.
SO, UM, ULTIMATELY, UM, THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PLAN IS.
UM, AND IN A NUTSHELL, THE PLAN, UM, AGAIN, CREATES A COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM LED BY SOME PARTNERS, UM, DEEP WELLS, THE LEAD PARTNER.
SO THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE ACTIVATION AGENCY THAT THEN, UM, ASSEMBLES THE TEAM THAT'S, AGAIN, CUSTOMIZED OR UNIQUE TO THE NEEDS OF THOSE THAT ARE BEING DISPLACED.
UH, THERE ALSO ARE SOME FINANCIAL PARTNERS, BOTH THE UNITED WAY OF THE LOW COUNTRY AND THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE LOW COUNTRY.
UM, THERE'S A PRIVATE FUND THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ASSIST, UM, THOSE AGENCIES THAT ARE PROVIDING THE SUPPORT SERVICES.
UM, THE FUNDING THAT IS PART OF THIS PROJECT IS ALL PRIVATELY, UH, HELD, UM, AND PRIVATELY ACTIVATED.
AND THEN WE WORKED THROUGH A NUMBER OF SCENARIO PLANNING EXERCISES THROUGH THE PRODUCTION OF CREATING THIS PLAN.
UM, WE'VE HAD SOME, UH, DISPLACEMENT EVENTS BOTH WITH, UH, CHIMNEY COVE, UM, BACK WHEN IN 2022, UH, WHICH WAS THE IMPETUS FOR THE FINDING HOME, UH, WORKFORCE HOUSING FRAMEWORK PLAN TO BE DEVELOPED AND ACTIVATED.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MORE RECENTLY THERE ARE OTHER DISPLACEMENT EVENTS AND, UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, HAVING THIS PLAN EVEN DRAFTED IN ITS DRAFT FORMAT IS THAT DEEP WELL, AS AN AGENCY HAS HAD A SUPPORT NETWORK TO ACTIVATE, UM, WHEN THEY'RE ASSISTING FAMILIES.
NOW, THAT WAS NOT IN PLACE, UM, WHEN CHIMNEY COVE OCCURRED IN 2022.
UM, DISPLACEMENT EVENTS CAN COME, UH, IN A RANGE OF, UH, REASONS.
UM, AND, AND WE REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE PLAN WORKS BEST WHEN THERE'S EARLY INTERVENTION OR WHEN, WHEN IT'S KNOWN THAT THERE COULD BE A DISPLACEMENT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, ESPECIALLY IF THAT, UM, MOVE OUT DATE OR SCENARIO IS, IS A SHORTER WINDOW.
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AND SO, UH, WE DO KNOW THROUGH, UM, OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROGRAM, WE, WE RECEIVE PRE-APPLICATION REQUESTS TYPICALLY WHEN, UM, A, A PROPERTY IS THINKING ABOUT REDEVELOPING.AND THAT IS AN EARLY SIGN THAT, UM, THAT WE CAN, UM, ACTIVATE AND, AND LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHO, WHO MAY BE LIVING IN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS AND, AND ARE THEY INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY BE, UM, ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME SERVICES THAT ARE, THAT ARE CONTEMPLATED WITHIN THIS PLAN.
UM, THERE, THERE ARE, AGAIN, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT I'VE PROVIDED A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF, UM, BOTH THE ROLE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD AND THOSE, UH, LEAD PARTNER ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
UM, PRIMARILY THE TOWN'S CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER, QUINCY WHITE, UH, WHO'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, UM, IS IS THE AGENT WITHIN THE TOWN THAT WOULD ACTIVATE THE, UM, DISPLACEMENT PLAN.
AND, UM, AND WHEN WE'RE MADE AWARE OF A, A POSSIBLE EVENT, UM, AND THEN, UH, IT REALLY GETS HANDED OFF TO DEEP WOW.
AND THE OTHER LEAD AGENCIES AND SUPPORT AGENCIES TO HANDLE, UH, WHATEVER SUPPORT FUNCTIONS MAY BE NECESSARY.
THIS PARTICULAR PLAN WAS REVIEWED MANY TIMES BY OUR HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE.
YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS THAT WE HELD, UM, IN ADDITION TO, UM, SOME WORKING GROUPS AND, UH, AND, AND OTHER MEETINGS THAT OCCURRED TO PUT THE PLAN TOGETHER.
UH, IN DECEMBER, HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE VOTED, UM, 10 ZERO TO RECOMMEND THIS PLAN TO TOWN COUNCIL.
AND THEN WE, UH, WE RE-REVIEWED THE PLAN, UH, IN FE FEBRUARY.
AND AGAIN, HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE VOTED SEVEN ZERO TO RECOMMEND THIS PLAN WITH SOME SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE RELATED TO THE FUNDING MECHANISM.
UM, THAT IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE DISPLACEMENT MITIGATION SUPPORT PLAN.
UM, THE PLAN ITSELF IS, UH, JUST A 10 PAGE DOCUMENT ALSO GOES THROUGH, UM, THAT STRUCTURE.
THE ONE PAGE THAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THERE WAS THE, UM, WAS THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM.
UM, AND, AND THIS, UH, THIS CHART HERE THAT IDENTIFIES, UM, THE LEAD PARTNER, THOSE LEAD AGENCIES WITH THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE LOW COUNTRY AND UNITED WAY.
AND THEN, UH, THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM AND, AND THE BUCKETS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE SERVICES THAT COULD BE PROVIDED WITH THOSE TEAM MEMBERS.
UM, HOUSING PROVIDERS, REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES, FAITH-BASED COALITION, SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES, EDUCATION STAKEHOLDERS, AND LEGAL SERVICES.
UM, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER, UM, POTENTIAL SUPPORT AGENCIES THAT COULD BE ACTIVATED DEPENDING ON THE NEEDS OF THE UNIQUE SITUATION, UH, THAT IS PRESENTED OVERALL, UM, THAT IS A, A BRIEF SUMMARY OF WHAT THE PLAN IS.
UH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT, UH, PRESENTATION.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS FROM WHAT YOU SAID IS, IS THAT FUNDING FOR THIS WILL BE FROM PRIVATE SOURCES, UH, EITHER THROUGH THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, UNITED WAY, AND, UH, IN TERMS OF FINDING OTHER PLACES FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DISPLACED, THAT'S GONNA BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF DEEP WELL THROUGH REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS.
SO JUST LIKE WHEN ANYONE IS SEEKING ADDITIONAL HOUSING, UM, NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE IN YOUR INCOME BRACKET, UM, IT'S BASED ON THE AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING.
UM, AND, AND THIS IS NO DIFFERENT.
SO, UM, YES, DEEP WELL DOES HAVE A HOUSING RESOURCE LIST.
UM, IT, AND THEY KEEP AN UPDATED LIST OF APARTMENTS AND CONDOS THAT ARE ON HILTON HEAD AND BLUFFTON, UM, THAT ARE IN MORE AFFORDABLE PRICE RANGES.
UM, IT INCLUDES PROPERTY NAMES AND LANDLORD CONTACT INFORMATION, UH, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FIRMS AS WELL.
UM, AND YES, THERE IS, THERE ARE LIMITED, UH, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT THE TIME WHEN, UH, SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE RE-HOMED.
UM, AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S REALLY NO DIFFERENT AT, AT ANY PRICE POINT.
UM, IT IS A CHALLENGE TO FIND HOUSING HERE ON HILTON HEAD.
UM, AND, BUT THERE, THERE IS A, A NETWORK OF, UH, RESOURCES THAT ARE ALREADY IDENTIFIED.
AND THEN, UM, IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES POTENTIALLY FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, SAY IT'S OFF SEASON AND THERE MAY BE SHORT TERM RENTAL, UM, LANDLORDS
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THAT, UM, DO NOT, IT'S NOT THE SUMMER SEASON AND MAY HAVE SOME VACANCIES FOR TEMPORARY PLACEMENT, THOSE ARE SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT CAN BE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE SHOULD THAT SCENARIO, UH, PRESENT ITSELF.IT, IT APPEARS INITIALLY ANYWAY THAT THE ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TOWN IN THIS PROJECT IS, IS QUITE LIMITED COMMUNICATING INFORMATION.
UM, AM I NOT CORRECT IN TERMS OF, OF THAT STATEMENT THAT IT'S RELATIVELY LIMITED, ITS INFORMATION TRANSMISSION? THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, IT IS, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE TOWN HAS PUT TOGETHER THE RESOURCES TO PLAN AND SCENARIO PLAN ASSEMBLE THE TEAM.
UH, AND, AND YES, IT IS MORE OF A, OKAY, WE WE'RE FACING AN EVENT AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, FIND SOME INFORMATION OUT, UH, THAT IS VOLUNTARILY GIVEN BOTH THROUGH A VOLUNTARY QUESTIONNAIRE THAT COULD BE DELIVERED TO THAT, THAT LANDOWNER OR DEVELOPER, UM, AND, AND GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO DEEP WELL TO USE AS INFORMATION TO ASSIST WITH THAT, UH, DISPLACEMENT SERVICE.
BUT, UH, BUT YES, OUR ROLE IS RELATIVELY LIMITED, UH, IN THIS ENTIRE PLAN.
YOUR DOCUMENTS, UM, ARE CONTRARY TO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
IT SEEMS, IT SEEMS THAT YOU PUT THE TOWN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF, UH, RE UH, RESPONSIBLE ACTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MEANT TO BE, THAT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE THAT WAY, UM, BECAUSE I SEE, I SEE IT AS A BUSINESS DECISION OF WHATEVER'S HAPPENING.
THE DEVELOPER OR THE INITIAL TOUCH IS GONNA BE WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.
EVERYONE KNOWS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA COME IN AND YOU'RE GONNA DISCUSS WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THAT'S HOW THE TOWN'S GONNA FIND OUT A DISPLACEMENT'S COMING, RIGHT? BUT THE DEVELOPER THEMSELVES KNOW THAT THAT'S HAPPENING PRIOR TO US KNOWING THAT'S HAPPENING.
SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE PUT THAT RESPONSIBILITY BACK ON THAT DEVELOPER AND NOT MAKE IT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TOWN OF HILLMAN? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT IS A PROPERTY, RIGHT? UM, AND, AND SOME PROPERTIES IT IS, IT MAY BE TIME FOR THOSE PROPERTIES TO REDEVELOP.
UM, AND, UH, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BOTH FACILITATING THEIR PROPERTY, RIGHT, TO SEEK REDEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO THIS PLAN IS REALLY TO PROVIDE A SUPPORT NETWORK, UH, FOR THOSE THAT, THAT MAY BE DISPLACED BECAUSE OF THAT ACTIVITY.
UM, AND, UH, SO AGAIN, PARTICIPATION IN EVEN THAT VOLUNTARY DISPLACEMENT QUESTIONNAIRE IS VOLUNTARY.
UM, IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT AN A PROPERTY OWNER OR APPLICANT, UH, PROVIDE OR SHARE THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR, THEIR TENANT LIST.
AND, UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN, UH, BOTH SIDES OF IT.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING A NETWORK THAT, UM, IS STOOD UP HERE, UH, TO PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH A, WITH A PROPERTY OWNER ON THEIR DEVELOPMENT NEEDS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING AS AN HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE AND ALL THEIR ENTITIES THAT WOULD HANDLE THIS.
SO ALL OF THE TOWN'S GOING TO DO IS SUPPLY A QUESTIONNAIRE.
THE TOWN WILL PROVIDE A QUESTIONNAIRE, CORRECT.
UM, AND WILL ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE WHATEVER INFORMATION THAT WE LEARN TO DEEP WELL, WHO THEN WILL ASSEMBLE, AGAIN, A UNIQUE RESPONSE BASED ON THE NEEDS OF, OF THOSE PARTICULAR TENANTS.
BUT HOW WOULD YOU LEARN THAT INFORMATION IF TO DEEP, WELL, BY EITHER GETTING THAT QUESTIONNAIRE FILLED OUT? UM, THEY COULD ALSO, WE COULD CALL AND THEY COULD VOLUNTARILY GIVE IT TO US, BUT YES, WE WOULD JUST PASS THAT ALONG.
SO THE QUESTIONNAIRE IS COMING BACK TO THE TOWN, NOT TO THE, NOT TO THE HOUSING, UH, UM, COMMITTEE.
IT'S COMING BACK TO THE TOWN, AND THEN WE, WE SUBMIT IT TO THE LEAD AGENCY, WHICH IS DEEP, WELL, UH, BASICALLY NO STAFF TIME INVOLVED, REALLY JUST A CONDUIT TO, UM, TO DISTRIBUTE THAT INFORMATION AND THAT IT IS AN AID IN, UM, THAT ASSISTANCE THAT THEY MAY BE PROVIDING.
SO, WELL, BEFORE I JUMP IN, UM, ALTHOUGH I DO WANNA FOLLOW UP ON THAT, I, THERE IS MORE INVOLVEMENT BY THE TOWN THAN SIMPLY
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PROVIDING A VOLUNTARY QUESTIONNAIRE ALONG WITH A PRE-APPLICATION, UM, APPLICATION AND MEETING.THERE'S A LOT OF TOWN INVOLVEMENT.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STAFF, PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED REGULARLY, ROUTINELY, UM, ON THIS MATTER, UM, WHICH IS A RESOURCE THAT COULD, UM, BE COUNTED IN, UM, NOT ONLY JUST PHYSICAL TIME, BUT FINANCIALLY.
WE HAVE YOURSELF, WE HAVE QUINCY, WE HAVE OTHER STAFF MEMBERS.
AND NOW BECAUSE THE GROUP IS CHOSEN TO HAVE THEIR DISCUSSIONS OUTSIDE OF THE PURVIEW OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE, UM, TOWN INVOLVEMENT WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THERE ARE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AND STAFF THAT'S ASSIGNED TO EACH ONE OF THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES.
SO IN TERMS OF STAFF AND INVOLVEMENT, THERE'S CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT.
AND THE COST TO THE TOWN IS ALSO CONSIDERABLE, UM, WITH REGARD TO FUND DOLLARS.
FURTHERMORE, WITHIN THE DOCUMENT, IT SPEAKS TO COMMUNICATION EFFORTS.
AND WE KNOW THAT THE COMMITTEE AND THE DOCUMENT REFERENCES CREATION OF A CAMPAIGN, A COMMUNICATIONS CAMPAIGN.
SO THERE ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS OUTSIDE OF COMMUNITY PLANNING, UM, THAT ARE ALSO INVOLVED.
SO THE STAFF INVOLVEMENT IS SIGNIFICANT, AND IT'S ALL OUTLINED HERE, UM, IN THE, IN THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT.
AND I THINK WHAT I FIND ABOUT THAT IS, IS VERY OPEN-ENDED, UM, THROUGH THE PRE-APPLICATION PROCESS.
ON PAGE FOUR, EARLY IDENTIFICATION OF DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY LEAD TO A DISPLACEMENT OF RESIDENTS WILL BE POSSIBLE.
AND OTHER ANECDOTAL INFORMATION GATHERED THROUGH SCHOOL SYSTEMS OR WORD OF MOUTH WITHIN COMMUNITIES CAN FURTHER PROVIDE EARLY WARNING SIGNS OF DISPLACEMENT PRESSURES, SUPPLEMENTING FORMAL PROCESSES WITH VALUABLE ON THE GROUND INSIGHT THAT WILL BE COMMUNICATED TO COMMUNITY PARTNERS FOR EARLY INTERVENTION AND SUPPORT SERVICES.
AND WHILE ALL OF THAT IS OUTLINED, IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED AS TO WHO IS INVOLVED IN SUCH OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, UM, THE, AND THEN IT, IT GOES ON AND TALKS ABOUT, AS I MENTIONED, THE COMMUNICATION EFFORTS, ET CETERA, THE MARKETING TO THE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.
UM, AND I DO HAVE OTHER COMMENTS, BUT BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION, I THINK IT WAS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO, TO SAY CLA CLEARLY THIS IS NOT SIMPLY THE TOWN ACTIVATING BASED ON A PRE-APPLICATION QUESTIONNAIRE.
AND THE PRE-APPLICATION QUESTIONNAIRE FOR ME, UM, IS PART OF ANOTHER CONVERSATION.
BUT I DO WANNA SAY THAT THOSE 29 QUESTIONS ARE RATHER INVASIVE.
AND WHILE I SEE THAT IT SAYS VOLUNTARY ON IT, IF I WERE HANDED THAT AS A DEVELOPER COMING IN TO REDEVELOP OR TO TO BEGIN SOMETHING, I WOULD STEP BACK AND QUESTION HOW INVOLVED AM I GOING TO HAVE TO GET INTO ALL OF THESE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE ON THIS QUESTIONNAIRE.
AND I'LL JUST READ ONE OF THEM, I'LL JUST READ ONE OF THEM AS A HIGHLIGHT, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT, FOR ME, WOULD RAISE A RED FLAG IF I WAS TRYING TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
HOW WILL THE PROPERTY OWNER OR AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE ENSURE THAT THE RELOCATION PROCESS ADHERES TO ALL RELEVANT LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND REGULATIONS GOVERNING TENANT RIGHTS AND, UH, PROTECTIONS? WELL, UM, THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT TO ASK IF SOMEBODY'S COMING IN AND, UM, LOOKING TO, UM, REDEVELOP BASED ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY RIGHTS, A, UM, PIECE OF LAND.
SO JUST LEAVING THAT ASIDE, UM, I DON'T WANNA END UP DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD.
WE KNOW THAT WHEN CHIMNEY COVE HAPPENED, UM, IN 2022, UM, THERE WAS A LARGE OUTCRY AND IT WAS WELL HANDLED AND APPROPRIATELY HANDLED, AND I GUESS SOME MAY SAY EVEN SUCCESSFULLY HANDLED BY THE NON-PROFITS.
WE ON HILTON HEAD, WE ALL KNOW ARE SECOND TO NONE WITH THE WORK THAT THE NONPROFITS DO, AND WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE THEM AND WE VALUE THEM, BUT IT WAS, WAS WELL HANDLED.
AND IN THE END, THAT DEVELOPER, TO MY POINT WITH REGARD TO THE QUESTIONNAIRE, FELT SOME PRESSURE AND BACKED OFF AND DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT PROPERTY.
SO SUCCESSFUL, YES, NO ONE WAS REALLY DISPLACED, AND THOSE FOLKS STILL EXIST, BUT THE PERSON WHO HAD PROPERTY RIGHTS WAS, THAT'S THE WORD THAT'S COMING TO MIND, IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT WAS, UM, INTIMIDATED
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ENOUGH TO STEP BACK AND SAY THEY WEREN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH THEIR PROPERTY IN THE LONG RUN.I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE BEST INTEREST OF, UM, EVERYONE, BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY, THAT WAS THE OUTCOME AND IT WAS HANDLED WELL BY THE NONPROFITS WITHOUT THE TOWN'S INVOLVEMENT, WITHOUT ANY RESOURCES BEING ALLOCATED.
AND, UM, AND I CONGRATULATE YOU.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, I WANT TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WITHIN THE ROOM, WE HAVE TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE, UM, JOINED US THIS MORNING.
COUNCILMAN, UH, BROWN AND HUNTER ARE WITH US.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO JOIN THE CONVERSATION AT THIS TIME AS YOUR COMMENTS BEFORE I CONTINUE AND, AND BRING IT BACK TO THE DIOCESE.
SO EITHER, UH, COUNCILMAN TANNER OR COUNCILMAN BROWN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT, WE WELCOME YOU.
UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I DO LIKE ABOUT THIS PROCESS.
I LOVE THAT IT IS COM A COMMUNITY LED PROCESS.
I LOVE THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS, UH, OF OUTLINING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED WONDERFUL PARTNER AGENCIES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP US WITH THIS WORK.
I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF A COORDINATED PROCESS.
UM, I'VE GOT SOME, I HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH A NONPROFIT IN MY WORK IN ILLINOIS, AND I LOVE THEIR BUSINESS MODEL WHERE THE NONPROFITS WOULD HELP TO COORDINATE ALL THE RESOURCES AND BE THE TOUCH POINT FOR INDIVIDUALS WHEN THEY HAD NEEDS.
AND I THINK THAT'S A BUSINESS MODEL THAT WORKS VERY WELL.
UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, MOVING FORWARD, WHAT IS THE TOWN'S ROLE IN THE PROCESS? AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE PROCESS ITSELF FOR THIS, UM, THIS PROGRAM, DEEP WELL IS LISTED AS THE LEAD AGENCY, UH, DEEP WELL HAS, UH, A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.
I'VE PERSONALLY, UM, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHEN I HAD A CONSTITUENT REQUEST REGARDING HOUSING.
AND THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF PROVIDING RESOURCES AND INFORMATION FOR, UM, THAT CONSTITUENT.
AND SO IT MAKES ME WONDER IF DEEP WELL SHOULD BE THE LEAD ON THE ENTIRE PROCESS, UM, AS THEY'RE GONNA BE COORDINATING THE RESOURCES, UM, AS OPPOSED TO THE TOWN.
COUNCILMAN BROWN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN THE CONVERSATION? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, JUST TWO, UH, POINTS OF CONSIDERATION FOR THE COMMITTEE.
UM, I, I SORT OF VIEW THIS AS, UH, BALANCE AND PREPARATION.
UM, WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE HILTON HEAD, UM, IT MAY NOT BE UNIQUE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE DISPLACEMENT HAPPENING.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST A FACT WITH THE AMOUNT OF INVENTORY THAT WE HAVE THAT NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND I THINK THIS IS THE EFFORT THAT WILL BALANCE FOLKS' PROPERTY RIGHTS, BECAUSE PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY, REDEVELOP IT, SELL IT, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
SO WE'RE PROTECTING THEIR INTEREST, BUT WE'RE ALSO PROTECTING THE INTERESTS OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE LIVING HERE, WORKING HERE, AND HAVE BEEN A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THE TOWN HAS, THE WAY I READ THIS VERY LIMITED, UH, ROLE IN THIS, ALTHOUGH IN MOST CASES WHEN THERE'S A REDEVELOPMENT, THE PROPERTY OWNERS COME INTO THE TOWN FIRST.
SO MOST TIMES WE KNOW, FIRST WE WILL KNOW BEFORE DEEP WELL KNOWS, AND WE'LL PROBABLY KNOW BEFORE THE TENANTS KNOW.
SO AGAIN, I JUST WANNA SORT OF FOCUS ON BALANCE HERE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.
AND THE SECOND THING, UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT CHIMNEY COVE WAS A CASE STUDY THAT, UH, GOT THE ATTENTION OF A LOT OF FOLKS HERE ON HILTON HEAD AND NOT EVEN SAY NATIONALLY TO A DEGREE.
WE APPROACHED THAT WITHOUT A PLAN.
WE SCRAMBLED, YES, THINGS DID GET PULLED TOGETHER FAIRLY QUICKLY, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE A PLAN.
I THINK THIS IS SIMPLY AN EFFORT TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.
THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR HAVING SOLID PLANS TO AVOID CRISISES, AND I SEE THIS NO DIFFERENT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I THINK THE STAFF AND THE COMMITTEE HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB GETTING IT TO THIS POINT.
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WE NEED TO TIGHTEN SCREWS ON ANYTHING, I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY DIRECT WITH WHAT THOSE SCREWS ARE.UH, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NEXT EVENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT COULD HAPPEN TOMORROW, LET IT NOT HAPPEN WITH US NOT HAVING A PLAN.
AND SO BRINGING IT BACK TO OUR COMMITTEE YEAH, I, I I AGREE.
WE NEED TO BE VERY DIRECT, VERY DIRECT.
UM, I THINK VERBIAGE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
I THINK, UM, I THINK IT, WE NEED TO MAKE IT VERY, VERY CLEAR, UM, THAT THIS, IN NO WAY, 100% IN NO WAY WOULD HINDER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS BEING PART OF A REDEVELOPMENT.
IT'S, UM, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DISPLACEMENT SITUATION GOING ON.
I THINK THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT ANIMALS.
OF COURSE, WE, WE WANNA SEE BOTH OF THEM SUCCEED, BUT THEY SHOULD NEVER CROSS.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A, TO PUT IT ANY DIFFERENT WAY, THERE ARE, THERE ARE A LOT OF HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH IN THIS COMMUNITY TO GET ANY KIND OF REDEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT OF A BLIGHTED AREA, UH, THROUGH FOR RECONSTRUCTION.
AND THIS SHOULDN'T BE ANOTHER HOOP TO, TO HAVE TO CLIMB THROUGH, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
SO, 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA HAPPEN TIME TO TIME AND IT'S, AND IT'S MORE OF A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP, PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE RENTERS.
I'M SURE THEY HAVE MONTH TO MONTH, SIX MONTH ONE MONTH LEASES THAT HAVE TO BE ABIDED BY.
SO THAT'S NOT FOR THE TOWN TO GET INVOLVED IN OR WE END UP GETTING INVOLVED IN ILLEGALLY.
WE, WE, THAT'S NOT A PLACE I THINK WE SHOULD BE.
UH, I DO UNDERSTAND, AND I THINK THAT SINCE WE ARE THE FIRST TOUCH THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THIS QUESTIONNAIRE, UM, IF IT WERE ME LOOKING AT THIS QUESTIONNAIRE AND IT'S VOLUNTARILY SUBMITTED, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE SUBMITTED.
IT'S, IT'S, IT, AS THE DEVELOPER, ALTHOUGH IT'S VOLUNTARY, IT'S, IT'S TYING THEIR HANDS IN A WAY SAYING, WHAT'S THE ANSWER? SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, YOU KIND OF SET THE TONE OF WHERE THEY STAND AND HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THINGS.
AND I, AND, AND AGAIN, I THINK IT, I THINK IT BLENDS WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE WORK THEY'RE DOING WITH THE TOWN AND THE STAFF ON THIS SIDE WITH THIS SIDE.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS WOULD BE FILLED OUT AND TURNED OVER TO SOMEONE ELSE, NOT TO THE TOWN.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE TOWN GETTING THIS BACK BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD ONLY
AND WE SHOULD LEAN ON THEM AND DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN TO DO THIS, SHOULD THEY DECIDE TO, THEY SHOULD LEAN ON THEM.
AND THE COMMUNITY LEADER IN THAT DEVELOPMENT OR COMPLEX SHOULD LEAN ON THEM.
AND THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD START.
OF COURSE, THE TOWN CAN HELP, UM, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK THE TOWN NEEDS TO GET INVOLVED IN DEEPLY INVOLVED INTO HOUSING AND DISPLACEMENT.
STEVE, A D STEVE, A IT'S TIME FOR DISCUSSION 'CAUSE I'M, I'VE GOT MORE THAN WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE COVERED.
BUT THOSE OF US WHO WERE IN, EXCUSE ME, INVOLVED IN, IN 2022 AT THE TIME, AT THE TIME THE CHIMNEY COVE SITUATION AROSE, WERE VERY UPSET AND CONCERNED THAT A VERY LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ALL AT ONCE WOULD BE THROWN OUT OF THEIR RESIDENCE.
MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE, UH, VERY MODEST INCOME, MANY HISPANICS, BUT THEY WERE OUR WORKFORCE IN A LARGE REGARD.
AND THE TOWN HAD AS A PRINCIPAL OBJECTIVE THEN, AS IT STILL DOES NOW TO ENHANCE OUR SITUATION WITH RE REGARD TO WORKFORCE AVAILABILITY.
AND THIS, THIS EFFORT, UH, DEALING WITH, UH, DISPLACEMENT MITIGATION IN MY MIND, IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO OUR EFFORTS TO DEAL WITH
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WORKFORCE AVAILABILITY.UH, I I THINK IT IS WIDELY RECOGNIZED THAT IT IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
THE AGENCIES MENTIONED HERE TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY INVOLVED.
AND I THINK STAFF HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF DRAWING A FINE LINE BETWEEN WHAT THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT BY THE TOWN WOULD BE AND WHAT THE PRIVATE INVOLVEMENT BY THE LEADING PRIVATE AGENCIES WOULD BE.
AND AS I READ THE SITUATION, THE TOWN IS A FACILITATOR HERE.
BASICALLY, IT'D BE TRANSMITTING INFORMATION, YES, THE TOWN, UH, HAS, IN TERMS OF STAFF TIME, PROVIDED A LOT OF TIME UP TILL NOW THROUGH THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.
BUT THIS, THIS PLAN GOING FORWARD DOES NOT IMPOSE MUCH IN THE WAY OF BURDENS ON TOWN STAFF.
THERE IS NO TOWN FUNDING INVOLVED HERE.
WE ARE NOT INVOLVED WITH TRYING TO FIND HOUSES OR, UH, ANY PARTICULAR PEOPLE.
SO IT'S A FACILITATION EFFORT IN MY MIND THAT FURTHERS OUR OVERALL OBJECTIVE OF TRYING TO ENHANCE OUR WORKFORCE AVAILABILITY SITUATION.
UM, AND, AND TO, TO THAT POINT, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE IDENTIFICATION OF DISPLACEMENT EFFECTIVENESS OR EVENTS, I GUESS THERE ARE OTHER EVENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT.
OTHER EVENTS INCLUDE ECONOMIC SHIFTS SUCH AS RISING HOUSING COSTS OR JOB LOSSES, WHICH CAN FORCE RESIDENTS TO SEEK ALTERNATIVE HOUSING OPTIONS OUTSIDE THEIR CURRENT COMMUNITIES.
AND THEN IT GOES ON TO DISCUSS NATURAL DISASTERS, HURRICANES, FLOOD, THAT COULD ALSO CREATE A, UM, DISPLACEMENT EVENT.
SO IT'S NOT JUST THE QUESTIONNAIRE THAT A APPLICANT MIGHT FILL, FILL IN IT'S OTHER EVENTS.
AND THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE, AND, AND I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM, BUT I, I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT THIS IS A DOCUMENT WITH A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, A LOT OF OPEN-ENDED EXPECTATIONS AND POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT OBLIGATIONS, THE FOR THE TOWN.
AND THAT'S WHERE I AM CONCERNED, IT'S THOSE THAT ARE LIKELY TO BE IMPOSED ON THE TOWN IN THE FUTURE, NOT THE GOOD WORK THAT THE NONPROFITS ARE DOING, WHO I BELIEVE SHOULD BE THE LEAD AGENCY AND SHOULD BE THE ONES WHO OWN THIS DOCUMENT IN, IN THEIR LEAD IN ITS EQUAL, WHO THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THAT THEY SHOULD OWN THIS DOCUMENT, THAT THIS DOCUMENT SHOULD NOT HAVE THE, UM, TOWN'S LOGO ON IT OR ANYTHING ELSE.
OUR, OUR INVOLVEMENT IS TRULY JUST TO ASK AS A VOLUNTARY MATTER, SOMEONE COMING IN FOR A PRE-APPLICATION, WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON THESE 29 QUESTIONS.
AND ONCE IT'S COMPLETED, IT SHOULD BE HANDED OFF TO ONE OF THE LEAD AGENCIES, UM, WHO'S IDENTIFIED AT THIS POINT AS DEEP WELL, AND THAT THEY SHOULD TAKE IT FROM THERE.
OTHERWISE, IT IS TOWN INVOLVEMENT, AND IT HAS BEEN LONG SAID BY MANY FROM THE VERY TOP AND THIS, UH, THIS, UM, TOWN THAT WE ARE NOT IN THE HOUSING BUSINESS.
AND EVERY SINGLE TIME WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE BECOME MORE OF A SOCIAL SERVICE NETWORK, LESS OF A GOVERNMENT AGENCY DEALING WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE, AND THE LIKE.
AND SO THIS PUTS US SQUARELY IN THE HOUSING BUSINESS.
AND I, I CAN'T, I CANNOT GO ALONG WITH THAT.
I CAN SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A VOLUNTARY DISPLACEMENT SUPPORT QUESTIONNAIRE, EVEN THOUGH I BELIEVE, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT IT IS DETRIMENTAL TO OUR TOWN BECAUSE RE DEVELOPERS AND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE TOWN A BETTER PLACE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS AND NEVER WANT TO JUMP THROUGH THESE HOOPS.
THERE'S NO DISCLAIMER ON HERE.
IN FACT, THE VOLUNTARY QUESTIONNAIRE IS TO BE COMPLETED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER OR AUTHORIZED WITH REPRESENTATIVE.
WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED, IS THIS IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WHERE SOMEBODY'S BEING DISPLACED, KIND OF IN YOUR SUGGESTION IN THE BEGINNING OF YOUR COMMENTS THAT EVERYBODY'S MOVED AND BEEN DISPLACED AND HAD TO RENEGOTIATE THEIR SURROUNDINGS.
OR IS THIS FOR A COMPLEX OF 10 UNITS OR IS THIS, WHAT, WHAT SIZE, WHERE DO, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THIS FOR? BUT THERE'S NO DEFINITION HERE OR NO, NOTHING, NO PARAMETERS THAT ARE HERE.
I WOULD PUT A DISCLAIMER, SIGNIFICANT
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DISCLAIMER SO THAT THOSE FOLKS COMING IN UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR PRE-APPLICATION OR THEIR APPLICATION WILL NOT BE ADVERSELY CONSIDERED IF THEY DO NOT COMPLETE THIS OR THEY DO COMPLETE IT AND THEY COMPLETE IT IN A WAY THAT RAISES RED FLAGS OR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT THEY ARE NOT OBLIGATED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TO MITIGATE ANY OF THE TYPES OF SITUATIONS THAT MAY COME OUT OF ANY OF THESE, UNLESS IT'S UNDER A LEGAL PURVIEW THAT'S OUTSIDE THE REALM OF THE TOWN.FLICKING A SWITCH ON THAT FOR THEMSELVES, UM, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND DO A FULL SURVEY THAT, UM, DO THE TENANTS WORK ON THE ISLAND.
I MEAN, HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOW ALL OF THESE? WHAT DO THE TENANTS WORK ON THE ISLAND? I MEAN, I DON'T SEE A QUESTION ON HERE ARE ALL YOUR TENANTS, UM, LEGALLY WORKING ON THE ISLAND? AND THERE'S QUESTIONS REGARDED TO THAT AND I DON'T SEE THAT ADDRESSED.
UM, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE? PROPERTY OWNERS, AUTHORIZATION REPRESENTATIVES WILLING TO HOST A 10? THERE'S NO DISCLAIMER AND THERE'S NO PARAMETERS AND THERE'S NO RESTRICTION THAT TELLS FOLKS, IF YOU DON'T HANDLE THIS, UM, IF YOU CHOSE NOT TO FILL THIS OUT OR YOU DON'T HANDLE IT THE WAY WE PERCEIVE YOU HANDLING IT, UM, YOU'RE SAFE FROM YOUR APPLICATION NOT BEING, UM, UM, VIEWED IN A NEGATIVE WAY.
AND THE BUSINESS OF THE TOWN IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THINGS SO THAT WE HELP EACH OTHER NOT HURT EACH OTHER.
AND WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO HELP, ONE, IN MY OPINION, THIS HELPS HURTS OTHERS.
UM, I'M ALSO VERY CONCERNED, UM, ABOUT FUNDING.
I KEEP HEARING THIS FUNDING, UM, ISSUE THAT THE TOWN HAS NO, IS NOT PROVIDING ANY FUNDING, THAT THE FUNDING WILL GO THROUGH THE LOW COUNTRY FOUNDATION.
AND AS THE, I BELIEVE THE FISCAL AGENT, I MAY HAVE GOTTEN THIS BACKWARDS, AND THE, THE, UM, YES, UNITED WAY, THANK YOU
BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE, PERCENTAGE OF ANY FUNDS THAT THEY MAY RECEIVE, ARE THEY TAKING FOR THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS? UM, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT INFORMATION.
THERE'S NOTHING WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT THAT GIVES ME ANY IDEA OF WHAT THEIR COSTS ARE BACK TO THE TOWN AND HOW THEY'RE RAISING THOSE FUNDS, WHAT THOSE EFFORTS LOOK LIKE.
I DO KNOW, AND I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THE WAY THIS IS TITLED, I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE FUND AT THE LOW COUNTRY FOUNDATION IS TITLED THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND DISPLACEMENT FUND.
IF IT'S GOING TO SAY HILTON HEAD ISLAND DISPLACEMENT FUND, I WANNA SEE SOME DOCUMENTS WITHIN THAT FUND THAT TELLS ME THAT EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR THAT'S RAISED IS GOING TO BE USED FOR SOMEONE ON HILTON HEAD TO STAY ON HILTON HEAD.
AND THEN WHERE ON HILTON HEAD ARE THEY GOING TO SAY, I'VE HEARD CONVERSATIONS HAVING SAT IN ON THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE, THAT THERE'S AN EFFORT TO TRY TO, UM, CONTRACT WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO SECURE THOSE, UM, THEIR UNITS FOR THE JUST IN CASE SCENARIO AND WHERE ARE THOSE FUNDS COMING FROM, BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA COST MONEY.
I'VE ALSO HEARD IN THE LAST CONVERSATION, UM, WELL, MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS, BUT IN THE LAST MEETING, HAVING REVIEWED IT, THAT THERE'S AN INTEREST IN THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE TAPPING INTO FUNDS THAT WE ARE RECEIVING AS A PARTIAL SETTLEMENT.
SO WHEN I'M TOLD THAT NO TOWN FUNDS ARE BEING HELD, THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE WHO, WHO SUPPORTS AND WROTE THIS DOCUMENT ARE LOOKING FOR TOWN FUNDS EVERY, ALMOST EVERY TIME THERE'S A MEETING, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR TOWN FUNDS.
SO THIS DOCUMENT OPENS THE DOOR FOR NOT ONLY THE RESOURCES FROM THE TOWN WITH, WITH REGARD TO STAFF TIME, ET CETERA, UM, BUT ALSO FOR FUNDING.
AND SO THAT, UM, IS PROBLEMATIC.
UM, COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING TO ME AS I READ THOSE DISPLACEMENT EVENTS YEARS AGO, I, UM, STARTED MY FIRST JOB WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY SYSTEM WORKING AS A WORKFORCE INVESTMENT ACT, UM, UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR.
AND WE WOULD WRITE GRANTS, HELPING PEOPLE WHO WERE DISPLACED FROM THEIR JOBS TO GET, UH, OR PEOPLE WHO WERE UNDEREMPLOYED TO GET THE SKILLS TO BECOME MORE EMPLOYED.
THAT PROGRAM, WHICH WAS STARTED IN 1998, HAS NOW BEEN RENAMED, UM, AS OF 2024.
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I THINK IT'S THE WORKFORCE, UM, INVESTMENT AND OPPORTUNITY ACT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT IT BASICALLY DOES THE SAME THING.UM, THOSE ARE PLACES AND THOSE ARE RESOURCES THAT I BELIEVE OTHER AGENCIES SHOULD BE HELPING OUT WITH TOO.
UM, SO, AND I DON'T SEE THEM OR SEE ANYONE WITHIN THAT REALM, UM, AS A COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER.
IN FACT, I KNOW THIS, THERE ARE SEVERAL COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS THAT MIGHT BE MISSING.
AND SO I WONDER ABOUT THE FOCUS OF THE EFFORT HERE.
AND WHILE COUNCILMAN BROWN WAS CORRECT, UM, THERE WAS A SCRAMBLE WHEN CHIMNEY COVE CAME UP, THAT SCRAMBLE WENT PRETTY WELL AND IT WAS EFFICIENT.
AND THAT IS THE PLAN THAT THE NONPROFITS PUT IN PLACE THAT WORKED WELL AND SHOULD BE THE MODEL FOR MOVING FORWARD.
THIS DRAGGING THE TOWN GOVERNMENT INTO HOUSING SHOULD NOT BE PART OF THAT PLAN.
UM, SO I HAVE THAT LOTS OF QUESTIONS.
UM, AND I DON'T SEE A LOT OF, UM, ANSWERS.
ON PAGE SEVEN, WHICH IS THE LAST PAGE, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS WRITTEN, WRITTEN THROUGHOUT THIS DOCUMENT.
IT'S OPEN-ENDED, IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT AND IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT, UM, IT TALKS ABOUT, AND THIS ISN'T DISPLACEMENT, BUT THE COLU CONCLUSION DRAGS US FURTHER ALONG GETTING INTO THAT HOUSING BUSINESS THAN WE'VE ALL THAT I'VE HEARD THAT THIS TOWN IS NOT INTERESTED IN GOING.
AND SO IT, YOU KNOW, RISING COST AND LIMITED AVAILABILITY CREATES SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES TO LOCAL FAMILIES.
SO NOW WE'RE DRAWING IN A WHOLE NOTHER THING.
PLAN UNITES THE TOWN OF VARIOUS COMMUNITY PARTNERS, VITAL SUPPORT AND SOLUTIONS.
THE TOWN'S WORKFORCE, HOUSING FRAMEWORK GUIDES.
MUCH OF THE EFFORT FOCUSES ON DEVELOPING MORE ACCESSIBLE HOUSING SOLUTIONS, ENDURING, DISPLACED, ENSURING DISPLACED RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO ATTAINABLE AND, UH, SUSTAINABLE HOUSING OPTIONS.
THE PLAN IS DESIGNED TO ADAPT, TO ADAPT TO CHANGING NEEDS AND CIRCUMSTANCES AND IS, AND IT'S NOT JUST A STATIC RESPONSE, BUT AN ONGOING EFFORT TO SUPPORT RESIDENTS FACING HOME HOUSING CHALLENGES.
SO IT BEGINS TO DRAW IN FAR MORE THAN A DISPLACEMENT PLAN, AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS DOCUMENT TAKES YOU.
SO THE LANGUAGE THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT IS, UM, IS NOT TIGHT, SHOULD NOT BE PART OF THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY.
AS I'VE HEARD HERE STATEMENTS THAT WE ARE ONLY, WE'RE ONLY THE NOTIFIER THROUGH A SIMPLE PRE-APPLICATION QUESTIONNAIRE.
THIS DOCUMENT DOES NOT SAY THAT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
I'VE HEARD THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING THAT THE FUNDING, THE TOWN'S NOT FUNDING THIS.
I STILL HAVE THE QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO WHERE THAT FUNDING IS COMING FROM, WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST US OR COSTS IN THE LONG RUN TO ADMINISTRATIVE.
AND THEN I HEAR THE CONVERSATIONS THROUGH THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE ASKING FOR TOWN MONEY.
SO THIS DOCUMENT OPENS THE PATHWAY TO A PLACE THAT I'M HEARING WE'RE NOT GOING, BUT YET YOU WANT US TO AGREE TO GO TO WHO WROTE THE DOCUMENT? THE DOCUMENT, WE HAD SOME SUPPORT FROM A HOUSING CONSULTANT AND, AND THEN IT WAS ALSO WRITTEN IN HOUSE.
SO A HOUSING CONSULTANT FROM WHICH, WHAT HOUSING CONSULTANT IS THAT? WHICH HOUSING CONSULTANT? IT WAS TAMMY HOY HAWKINS WITH TOGETHER CONSULTING.
AND SO, SO STAFF ALONG WITH THE CONSULTANT WROTE THE DOCUMENT? CORRECT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN, WITH WHOSE IN, WITH WHOSE INPUT, UH, WHERE'D THE INPUT COME FROM? THE INPUT CAME BOTH FROM STAFF, FROM THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE, UM, AND, UH, THROUGH THE SCENARIO PLANNING WITH THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM MEMBERS.
IF I COULD FOR A MOMENT? SURE.
UM, AGAIN, SEAN LANIER, ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER.
UH, I, I JUST WANNA BRING US BACK TO WHY WE'RE ALL HERE.
UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT WHY WE'RE IN THE, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH HOUSING? WHAT IS OUR, WHAT ARE OUR GOALS, WHAT ARE, WHAT OUR OBJECTIVES AND WHAT, WHAT HAVE WE BEEN TOLD TO DO? THERE'S A COUPLE OF KEY DOCUMENTS THAT WE CAN POINT BACK TO, TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHY WE HAVE A CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER, WHY
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WE HAVE A HOUSING FUND, WHY WE HAVE A HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE.IT GOES BACK TO 2019 WHEN WE ADOPTED A STRATEGIC WORKFORCE, UH, HOUSING PLAN THAT WAS THEN UPDATED IN 2022 WITH THIS FINDING HOME DOCUMENT THAT WAS, THAT WAS ADOPTED BY TOWN COUNCIL.
UM, AS MS. LU, MS. LU NOTED IN HER STAFF REPORT AS PART OF OUR 2024 ACTION PLAN, WE WERE DIRECTED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, UM, RELATED TO HOUSING, RELATED TO A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER TOPICS.
ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS TO DEVELOP THIS DISPLACEMENT MITIGATION SUPPORT PLAN.
SO OUR ROLE IN HOUSING IS DEFINED BY THIS DOCUMENT, ALL THOSE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS THAT, THAT, THAT HAVE COME BEFORE AND, AND EXIST STILL TODAY.
UM, WE, OUR INTENTION IS NOT GO ANY FARTHER BEYOND THAT, BUT RATHER JUST WITHIN THE, THE, THE FOUR CORNERS OF THESE DOCUMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOUSING, THE, THE DISPLACEMENT PLAN THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, YES, THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE THAT IS LOOSE BECAUSE AS, AS, AS, UH, MRS. LU HAS SHARED, THERE ARE DISPLACEMENT COULD COME IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT FORMS. UM, TYPICALLY WHEN WE THINK ABOUT IT FROM A, FROM A, FROM A TOWN STAFF, AND PARTICULARLY FROM A PLANNING DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT, IT IS FROM, UH, WHEN THERE IS A REDEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE.
BUT DISPLACEMENT CAN HAPPEN WITH A FIRE DISPLACEMENT CAN HAPPEN WITH A STORM DISPLACEMENT CAN HAPPEN FROM A WHOLE, UH, WHOLE, UH, HOST OF OTHER AREAS.
AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE OUTLINED IN THAT REPORT OR IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENT.
WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THERE IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS TO THOSE.
EACH SITUATION, THERE'S A GENERAL PLAYBOOK, WHICH IS WHAT THIS DOCUMENT INTENDS TO SET OUT ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND, BUT IT'S REALLY ON TO ONCE THE TOWN IS MADE AWARE AND THE TOWN INFORMS THOSE, THOSE LEAD AGENCY AND DEEP WELL, IT'S REALLY UP TO THEM TO THEN FIGURE OUT HOW DO THEY, WHO DO THEY NEED TO ACTIVATE AND HOW DO THEY ACTIVATE THEIR RESOURCES, WHETHER THAT'S OTHER, UH, AGENCIES THAT CAN PROVIDE PHYSICAL, WHETHER THAT'S SOCIAL SERVICES OR WHETHER THAT'S FINANCING.
WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCING, YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, WELL, WHERE IS THE FUNDING COMING FROM? BUT IT, UH, AGAIN, TRUE TO, UH, WHAT OUR POSITION WAS IN DEVELOPING THIS DOCUMENT THAT'S NOT ON THE TOWN TO PROVIDE THE FINANCING.
IT'S NOT ON THE TOWN TO, TO UNDERSTAND WELL, WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THE FUND, WHO, HOW MUCH OF THE PERCENTAGE, IF THERE IS A PERCENTAGE BEING TAKEN FOR, FOR ADMINISTRATION OF THE FUND, THAT'S UP FOR THE, THE PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO, TO, TO DEVELOP AND ORGANIZE AND FINANCE THIS OPERATION ONCE THEY'RE MADE.
ONCE, ONCE IT'S AWARE, OUR GOAL WAS SIMPLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ALL ORGANIZED TOGETHER, UH, AS A COMMUNITY AND THAT THERE WAS INFORMATION SHARING.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE TOWN'S ROLE WAS, IS HOW DO WE INFORMATION SHARE, UM, AND NOTIFY EACH OTHER, UM, AND, AND TO SUPPORT, UH, A DISPLACEMENT EVENT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL HERE TODAY.
AND THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS ABOUT.
I, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VOLUNTARY DIS UH, QUESTIONNAIRE, WHETHER OR NOT THAT SHOULD BE A TOWN ROLE, WHETHER OR NOT THAT SHOULD WE JUST LET THAT LIVE OUTSIDE THE TOWN PROCESS AND THAT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT, THAT PERHAPS THAT DEEP WELLS, UH, SHARES WITH THE DEVELOPER, THE LANDOWNER ONCE, UH, ONCE THEY'RE MADE OF AWARE OF AN EVENT.
BUT BIG PICTURE, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE OUR DIRECTION WAS.
I THINK THAT ACTUALLY WHILE WE'RE HERE IS TO, UM, WHAT SAY WHETHER OR NOT WE AGREE TO A DOCUMENT, A DOCUMENT THAT TAKES US FURTHER DOWN A ROAD THAT WE'VE AGREED THAT WE'RE NOT GOING.
AND SO WHILE FINDING HOME WAS CREATED BACK IN RESPONSE TO THE CHIMNEY COVE INCIDENT, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY MAJOR INCIDENT THAT WE'VE HAD, WE'VE NOW TAKEN IT INTO A DOCUMENT THAT, UM, IS OPEN-ENDED AND DOESN'T INCREASE THE CHANCE THAT THE TOWN BECOMES MORE, UM, TAKES ANOTHER FOOT DOWN THE ROAD.
AND THERE IS NO, UM, THERE IS NO LIMITATIONS ON MUCH OF ANYTHING.
THE LANGUAGE ISN'T CLEAR, THE FUNDING ISN'T CLEAR.
AND I'VE SAT IN THE MEETINGS HEARING WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S DESIRE IS WITH FUNDING.
IT'S REPEATED EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT IT'S AT LEAST PUBLIC IN THE SMALL COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
AND, UM, I'M VERY DISPLEASED THAT THAT WAS THE ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN WHEN WE FINALLY GOT SOME TRANSPARENCY TO THE COMMITTEE.
SO, UM, HAVING SAID THAT, UM, I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT, UM, ONE OF TWO THINGS.
WE EITHER DENY THIS IN WHOLE BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE.
I BELIEVE THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT SHOULD BE OWNED AND LIVE WITH THE LEAD AGENCY.
UM, SORRY, IT'S MY FEAR THAT I WOULDN'T, I FEAR DON'T USE THE WORD FEAR, I GUESS, BUT IT'S MY THOUGHT THAT IF THE TOWN ADOPTS THIS DOCUMENT AND IT LIVES WITH THE TOWN AND IT COULD LIVE WITH, IT IS GONNA LIVE WITH THE TOWN FOR YEARS, AND THE NEXT COUNCIL CAN GET INSIDE ANY DOCUMENT AND RECREATE THAT DOCUMENT, UH, THE BEST THING TO
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DO IS TO NOT HAVE THE DOCUMENT, NOT ADOPT THE DOCUMENT.AND LIKE, UM, ECKER SAID IT, IT, THIS SHOULD LIVE IN A DIFFERENT AREA WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE TOWN RATHER THAN PART OF THE TOWN, IN MY OPINION.
I MEAN, WE CAN FACILITATE ANYTHING, BUT WE NEED TO STAY.
I THINK WE SHOULD STAY FAR AND CLEAR FROM THIS.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHAT THAT MOTION WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT, UH, UH, WELL, I WOULD, UH, SUGGEST, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY ADOPTING THIS DOCUMENT AT THIS TIME.
I SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME WITH A COUPLE STAFF MEMBERS AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHERE WE CAN, UH, AGREE TO ALLOW THIS DOCUMENT TO LIVE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
IS THERE A SECOND? DOUBLE YOU AND I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
AND WITH THAT, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? MS. HAS, IS ANYONE SIGNED UP? CINDY? YES.
UM, MR. CURTIS, WERE YOU LOOKING TO SPEAK IF WE MAY HOLD FOR JUST ONE MOMENT? DO WE HAVE A PORTABLE, THIS PART'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR WHAT I THINK ESPECIALLY, WELL, WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST WAS I THINK THAT YOUR, THE MOTION FROM THE COMMITTEE SHOULD ACTUALLY BE THAT YOU FORWARD IT TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR DISAPPROVAL.
WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS, UM, AND WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO DO THAT.
WE HAVE THE OPTION OF DENYING IT AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL AND SENDING IT FOR THE AS, UH, COUNCILMAN, UM, DE SAMONA SUGGESTED, BUT THANK YOU AS A CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD.
I IS THERE A DIRECTION TO STAFF TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT THEN? I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR CONCERN IS THAT YOU WANT IT TO MOVE FORWARD.
THE COMMITTEE'S MADE THE MOTION TO HAVE THE, UM, DOCUMENT AS, AND YOU CAN RESTATE YOUR MOTION OR SOMEONE CAN READ IT BACK, BUT I THINK THAT THE MOTION WAS TO DENY IT AND THAT THE DOCUMENT SHOULD LIVE WITH THE, UM, NONPROFIT AND NOT WITH THE TOWN THEY HAVE.
THE, THE COMMITTEE HAS ACCEPTED, UM, THAT MOTION.
I MEAN, I MEAN TO, TO ME, IF THIS IS A DISCUSSION, THE ACTION, THE ACTION'S GOING TO OCCUR REGARDLESS.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHERE IT OCCURS.
WELL, IF THE MOTION THEN IS, IS THAT THE TOWN IS TO DO NOTHING ELSE WITH IT BECAUSE I MEAN, THE TOWN CAN'T FORCE SOME OTHER AGENCY TO DO THIS.
WELL, THE MOTION WAS, IS TO EXAMINE WHERE IT SHOULD LIVE.
IT'S TO DENY US TAKING IT IN AT THIS TIME, HAVE DISCUSSIONS TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT SHOULD LIVE.
THAT WAS SORT OF MY QUESTION, WHICH WAS IS THERE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO DO SOMETHING AT THIS POINT AS A RESULT OF YOUR MOTION? IT WAS UNCLEAR TO ME THAT THERE WAS OH, OKAY.
SO I THINK WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY, UM, COUNCILMAN IS THAT STAFF IS TO GO BACK TO THE, WITH THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE TO, FOR THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE TO DETERMINE WITHIN THEIR AGENCIES, THEIR LEAD AGENCY LIKELY WHERE THE DOCUMENT SHOULD LIVE.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, UH, I'M ALL FOR WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A TOWN FUNCTION.
UM, AND MS. BECKER, FOR A MATTER, FOR A MATTER OF THE RECORD, MAY YOU, UM, MAY WE HAVE A VOTE PLEASE? I DID NOT CATCH THAT.
SO WE WERE STILL WAITING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO YES, MA'AM.
I ALMOST ALWAYS START BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR
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YOUR SERVICE AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.HOWEVER, I AM ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED I, WITHOUT WORDS, I HAD SOME PREPARED REMARKS, NOT IMAGINING THAT THIS WAS THE UNDRESSING, IF YOU WILL, OF STAFF PEOPLE, THE COMMITTEE THAT'S WORKED HARD ON THIS.
AND MS. BECKER, I HAVE TO CORRECT YOU AND I I HOPE THAT YOU WATCH THE VIDEOS.
WE HAVE NOT BEEN TALKING SIT IN THE AUDIENCE EVERY SINGLE MEETING ABOUT GETTING MONEY FROM THE TOWN.
SO I'D LIKE THAT TO BE UNDERSTOOD.
AND I HOPE YOU WILL GO BACK AND LOOK BECAUSE THAT IS NOT AT ALL HOW WE HAVE SPENT OUR TIME.
THE ISSUE OF HAVING WORKFORCE HOUSING, THAT IS WORKFORCE AVAILABILITY MEANS WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH WE ALSO NEED TO DEAL WITH DISPLACEMENT ISSUES.
WHEN CHIMNEY COVE HAPPENED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, Y'ALL SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT IT WAS SO SMOOTH AND EASY.
I JOINED THE COMMUNITY, UM, COALITION THAT PASTOR JUNE PUT TOGETHER, AS DID OTHERS THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM.
I MEAN, REVISION HISTORY, I GUESS IS WHERE WE ARE.
THAT THAT WAS JUST EASY AND SMOOTH EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS NO PLAN, LIKE EVERYBODY FIGURED IT OUT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE CASE AND I WAS PART OF THAT MOVEMENT.
IT WAS THAT INCIDENT THAT CAUSED ME TO APPLY TO BE A PART OF THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE.
AND I'LL JUST SAY, I HOPE I AM NOT WASTING MY TIME.
WE HAVE A HARDWORKING COMMITTEE.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS SQUASH THIS RIGHT HERE.
IT WON'T HAVE ANY OTHER WAY OF LIVING.
IN TERMS OF A CON CONTINUING CONVERSATION, THE COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THIS.
WE HAVE WORKED HARD, WE'VE WORKED WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT NONPROFIT SOCIAL ORGANIZATIONS, AND I ANTICIPATED ENDORSEMENT FROM THIS COMMITTEE.
SO ALL I CAN SAY IS IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTION BETWEEN, IF WE DON'T HAVE WORKFORCE, PEOPLE HERE HOUSING AND DEAL WITH THAT, WE HAVE NO COMMUNITY.
THESE THINGS ARE ALL VERY LINKED.
AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT IS A SMOOTH PLAN FOR ANOTHER, WHICH IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, ANOTHER DISPLACEMENT, YOU KNOW, DIAMOND COVE REEMPHASIZED THE NEED FOR US TO HAVE THIS PLAN.
SO I BEG YOU TO RECONSIDER BECAUSE I'M STILL NOT EVEN SURE IF THIS HAS DIED HERE OR IF IN FACT, AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR, I, I GUESS A RECORDING OF WHAT YOU ALL ARE VOTING ON BECAUSE I, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT THING THAT THE TOWN SHOULD BE DOING.
WELL, LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.
YEAH, I KNOW, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO, SO YOU, YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, YOU WORKED HOURS AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE HOURS AND HOURS, AND DON'T YOU THINK YOU'RE MORE QUALIFIED TO OWN THIS DOCUMENT THAN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD? DO YOU NOT BILL MORE QUALIFYING THIS, I THINK THIS COMMITTEE IS LASTING IN PERPETUITY.
I MEAN,
I THINK THE TOWN NEEDS TO SUPPORT IT, LIKE IT SUPPORTS THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND UNDERSTANDS THE NEED THAT WHEN THESE KINDS OF THINGS HAPPEN, I WANNA BE A PART OF THE TOWN THAT RISES UP AND HELPS PEOPLE WHEN THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS HAPPEN.
AND MS. KAR RESPECTFULLY, YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY SPENT A TON OF TIME GOING THROUGH EVERY SINGLE THING, WHICH ALSO MAKES ME FEEL LIKE RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE WE'RE GONNA FIND A WAY TO SQUASH THIS.
I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO BE HONEST.
OH, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THEM.
AND YOU KNOW ME WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW HE DID.
I'VE GONE THROUGH EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT, I'VE SAT IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MEETING, AND WHEN I COULDN'T, I WATCHED THEM ONLINE AND I'VE READ EVERY WORD AND I'VE MADE SURE THAT THE TOWN'S BEST INTEREST AS A LIMITED GOVERNMENT, UM, IS DOING OUR SHARE.
AND THAT THE NONPROFITS WHO DO THEIR SHARE ARE DOING THEIR JOBS IN THE, IN THAT WE STAY OUT OF EACH OTHER'S LANES.
IF IN FACT, WHAT WE'VE HEARD HERE TODAY IS TRUE, THAT OUR ONLY OBLIGATION IS TO SUBMIT A PRE-APPLICATION QUESTIONNAIRE AND THEN TURN IT OVER, THEN WE WILL MEET THAT OBLIGATION.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE QUESTIONNAIRE REWRITTEN.
OBVIOUSLY I MADE MY COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO THAT.
IT'S NOT WHAT WRITTEN WELL, IT DOESN'T PROTECT PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF A DEVELOPER OR THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE IN THE, THE POTENTIALLY DISPLACED COMMUNITY.
AND SO, YES, I HAVE DONE MY HOMEWORK AND WE DON'T AGREE ON THE PHILOSOPHY THAT'S OBVIOUS.
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I BELIEVE THIS DOCUMENT SHOULD GO BACK AND THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE SHOULD REWRITE IT AND HAVE IT FAR MORE, UM, TIGHT AND DO WHAT IT IS THAT WAS SAID WAS THE OBJECTIVES THAT I'VE HEARD REPEATED HERE TODAY.I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY EARLIER THAT YOU WANTED TOWN TO GET THE TOWN STAFF TO GET MORE INVOLVED.
AND DID NOT SAY WANTED TOWN TO GET AMOUNT INVOLVED.
AMOUNT OF TOWN STAFF IS SPENDING.
SO THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
I DO NOT WANT THE TOWN TO BE MORE INVOLVEMENT.
SO YOU WANT THE COMMITTEE TO TAKE IT BACK AND REWRITE DOCUMENT THE VOLUNTEERS, THE TOWN OF US TO DO THAT WITH NO STAFF SUPPORT.
SO WE'RE GETTING INTO DETAILS OF MI WORDS AND I'M GONNA PARSE WORDS HERE IN ORDER TO GET INTO A CONFLICT.
I DO APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND MY PHILOSOPHY IS DIFFERENT THAN YOURS.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS THE PATH FORWARD FOR TODAY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION? UM, SORRY, JACK ALDERMAN.
CHUCK, GOOD MORNING AND THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SPEAK TO, TO THIS ISSUE.
I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE.
UH, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'M ONE OF MANY CITIZENS THAT IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TOWN'S FUTURE, UH, WITHOUT A WORKFORCE THAT IS AVAILABLE, COMMITTED, TRAINED.
AND THAT TAKES SOME WORK AND THE TOWN NEEDS TO BE A PARTICIPANT IN THAT PROCESS.
IN THIS CASE, THE TOWN IS NOT BEING ASKED TO LEAD THE PROCESS, BUT ACTUALLY TO ACTIVATE A PROCESS WHEN THEY HAVE INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE SENT ALONG.
AND ANY OTHER INTERPRETATION OF THIS DOCUMENT THAT SAYS IT'S, IT'S GONNA LEAD TO A LOT OF TOWN FUNDING, UH, A LOT MORE TOWN, UH, STAFF TIME IS A GROSS MISREPRESENTATION OF WHAT WHAT IS IN THE DOCUMENT.
TOWN STAFF HAS PUT A LOT OF EXCELLENT RESEARCH AND THOUGHT INTO THE CREATION OF THIS DISPLACEMENT PLAN.
IT'S BEEN THOROUGHLY VETTED AND SMART ADJUSTMENTS TO IT HAVE BEEN MADE OVER SEVERAL MONTHS.
IN THIS PLAN, THE LEAD PARTNERS ARE DEEP WELL AS LEAD PARTNER, COMMUNITY FOUNDATION AS THE FISCAL AGENT.
AND UNITED WAY IS THE FIDUCIARY LEAD PARTNER.
THE TOWN'S PRIMARY ROLE IS TO KEEP AGENCIES WELL-INFORMED, NO SPENDING BY THE TOWN AND THE STAFF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE WORKING ON IT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE AND ALREADY BEING PAID.
I HAVE COLLABORATED WITH ALL THOSE EXCELLENT NONPROFITS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, AND I THINK THEIR LEADERSHIP, THEIR MOTIVATION AND THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY ARE SIMPLY OUTSTANDING AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT GROUP IN PLACE TO LEAD THIS EFFORT.
THIS IS REALLY ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
ECONOMIC VITALITY AND THE AVAILABILITY OF A COMMITTED WORKFORCE IS CRITICAL TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL CITIZENS.
AND LOSS OF WORKERS IN A DISPLACEMENT EVENT IS NOT ONLY A HUMANITARIAN ISSUE, IT'S ALSO A SERIOUS THREAT TO OUR ECONOMIC VITALITY.
SO THIS PLAN IS NOT SOME EXPERIMENT IN SOCIAL EXPERIMENTATION, AND IT'S NOT A BIG TOWN COMMITMENT THAT WOULD TAKE A REAL MISREADING OF THIS DOCUMENT TO REACH THAT CONCLUSION.
IT'S SIMPLY A SMART, WELL COORDINATED WAY TO SUPPORT OUR WORKFORCE, WHICH SUPPORTS OUR ECONOMY, WHICH SUPPORTS OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
KEEPING OUR WORKFORCE IS FRANKLY THE BIGGEST ISSUE THIS COMMUNITY WILL FACE IN THE COMING YEARS, AND IT'S THE BIGGEST THREAT TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND'S FUTURE VITALITY.
THIS DISPLACEMENT PLAN IS ONE IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE EFFORTS WE NEED TO MAKE TO PRESERVE OUR WORKFORCE.
AS CHAIR OF THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR FULL ENDORSEMENT BY THIS COMMITTEE TODAY AND THEN BY TOWN COUNCIL OF THIS DISPLACEMENT MITIGATION SUPPORT PLAN.
YOU, UM, IF YOU HAVE A SECOND, UM, YOUR WHOLE THREE MINUTES, YOU TALKED ABOUT DISPLACEMENT OF WORKFORCE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
AND THAT'S MY, ONE OF MY PROBLEMS. IT'S JUST DISPLACEMENT.
YOU COULD HAVE DISPLACEMENT OF, UM, ASSISTED LIVING OR REDEVELOPMENT.
IT'S NOT A DISPLACEMENT OF WORKFORCE.
IT'S A DISPLACEMENT PROGRAM ACROSS THE BOARD.
WHAT, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS DISPLACEMENT.
IT'S, IT IS PART OF A WHOLE HOUSING ACTION PLAN FOR RIGHT, FOR THE TOWN.
IT'S NOT, BUT, BUT I THINK, I THINK EVERYONE'S CAUGHT UP ON THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING THING IN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD FOR A COUPLE YEARS, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO MOLD IT INTO EVERYTHING.
YOU'RE TRYING TO USE THE WORD WORKFORCE IN, IN EVERY POSSIBILITY AND WAY AND DOCUMENT BROUGHT BEFORE THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.
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LOOK AT DISPLACEMENT AS A WORKFORCE DISPLACEMENT.'CAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF DISPLACEMENT.
THERE'S COMMERCIAL DISPLACEMENT.
YOU GO IN AND RE REVAMP AN ENTIRE COMMERCIAL, THE MALL, THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, HOW MANY JOBS WERE LOST IN DISPLACEMENT OF THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT? SO IT'S DISPLACEMENT.
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT DISPLACEMENT, NOT DISPLACEMENT FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
DO YOU, DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO LIVES IN CHIMNEY COVE? SURE.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY OF THEM WORK AND HOW MANY LIVE THERE? SO, I, I DO, DO YOU? NO, I DON'T.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION.
SO, AND IT WAS A, AND IT'S A GREAT, IT WAS A GREAT, UH, STUDY AND, AND I'M ALL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, THE THIRD, I'M ABSOLUTELY 100% BEHIND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO LIVE IN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD PROPER.
BUT THE TOWN WILL SUPPORT YOU, AND YOU HAVE THE FORCES TO ENFORCE IT BETTER THAN WE HAVE THE FORCES TO ENFORCE IT.
WE, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITIES.
WELL, YOU'VE GOT 10 MEMBERS, 10 MEMBERS THAT VOTED 10 OH, TO PUSH THIS FORWARD.
YOU'RE HARDWORKING PEOPLE THAT, THAT UNDERSTAND IT MORE THAN WE UNDERSTAND IT.
'CAUSE YOU'VE DONE ALL THE STUDY AND ALL THE WORK.
MAYBE THAT KIND OF FORCE NEEDS TO BE PUT IN PLACE WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE TOWN, BUT I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A TOWN FUNCTION.
I THINK YOU'RE DOING GREAT WORK, AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING.
AND I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND YOU.
WE, WE THINK THAT THIS DOCUMENT IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF, OF THE TOTAL HOUSING PLAN AND TOWN'S ONLY ROLE IS REALLY TO ACTIVATE IT WHEN IT HEARS OF A DISPLACEMENT EVENT.
WELL THEN I THINK THIS SHOULD BE REWRITTEN BECAUSE THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED TODAY TO MAKE A MOTION AND VOTE ON IS NOT WRITTEN THAT WAY.
SO IF YOU WANNA REWRITE IT IN A WAY WHERE, JUST AS YOU SAID IN ABOUT FOUR WORDS, I DON'T THINK YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TOWN GETTING BEHIND IT.
I, I THINK THOSE ARE THE WORDS THAT ARE IN THE DOCUMENT.
WELL, THEY'RE NOT, THEY MAY BE IN THERE, BUT THERE'S, UH, A BUNCH OF OTHERS AND THAT'S WHAT KILLS THE PROGRAM.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER FOLKS WHO ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, MR. WILLIAMS? THAT'S ALL FOR THIS.
IS THAT IT? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY, WELL, SURE.
I'M GONNA TRY TO DO SOME, UH, SOME BARGAINING ON THE BEHALF OF STAFF HERE.
UM, 'CAUSE I LISTENED TO THE DISCUSSION.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S A CLEAR DIRECTION TO STAFF AS TO WHAT TO BRING BACK.
UM, I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ASK THEM NECESSARILY TO BRING SOMETHING BACK.
WE GAVE THEM A CHARGE THAT IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO REWRITE IT, AND I THINK, WELL, I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN DISMISS WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MR. DESIMONE IS BRING BACK SOMETHING THAT CLEARLY SEPARATES THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS PROCESS.
AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE NOTES OF MR. LONER SAYS, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY MATCH UP.
BECAUSE I THINK MR. DESIMONE SAID THAT HE'S IN SUPPORT OF A PROGRAM.
HE JUST DOES NOT WANT THE TOWN TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE PROGRAM.
AND I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE CONFUSION ABOUT THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT IS A COMMITTEE THAT WAS APPOINTED BY THE TOWN.
SO IF WE'RE SAYING YOU SHOULD DO IT, AND THEN, AND A COMMITTEE THAT'S APPOINTED BY THE TOWN, THEN WE'RE REALLY SAYING THAT THE TOWN SHOULD DO IT.
SO ALL I'M, ALL I'M SUGGESTING HERE IS THAT WE HAVE JUST A SHORT CONVERSATION BETWEEN MR. LAER AND, UH, THE COMMITTEE AS TO WHAT EXACTLY WE ARE LOOKING FOR TO COME BACK SO THAT IT CAN BE SUPPORTED.
AND I THINK THAT, I THINK IT WAS, IF WE READ BACK THE, THE MOTION, UH, I THINK IT'S CLEAR.
MAYBE IF IT'S NOT, WE'LL CLEAR IT UP.
MAY YOU, UM, CLEAR THAT MOTION UP.
DO YOU HAVE IT? SO DENY ADOPTING THE DOCUMENT.
I DENY ADOPTING THE DOCUMENT, SENDING IT TO COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND WORK WITH THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE ON WHERE THE DOCUMENT SHOULD LIVE.
SO WE'RE GONNA SEND IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE BEING THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, AND HAVE THEM REWRITE IT, WHICH I JUST DISCUSSED WITH MR. HAM.
UM, AND HE WANTS TO, HE MADE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S JUST A, A DOCUMENT THAT WE NEED TO, UH, INCLUDE.
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AND IF WE CAN GET THAT DOCUMENT THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE TO GIVE TO THE APPLICANT, THEN I THINK IN, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THAT.BUT HAVING IT, HAVING IT MANAGED AND LIVING IN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD PROPER, THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD IS WHAT I'M SAYING IS NOT IN THAT MOTION.
SO YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU WANT THE ENTIRE, YOU, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, THE ENTIRETY OF THE DISPLACEMENT MITIGATION PLAN, NOT JUST THE VOLUNTARY QUESTIONNAIRE.
I THINK THERE'S THE, I THINK MAYBE THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE, MAYBE I'M CONFUSED.
THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE THE MASTER DOCUMENT FOR THE MITIGATION PLAN, THE WHOLE THING.
THAT'S WHY I MAKE SURE A GOOD EXAMPLE.
BEFORE THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO MENTIONED IN AN, IN THE CASE OF A FIRE, WHICH MAY DISPLACE SOMEONE, WHEN THE FIRE AND RESCUE ARE LEAVING, WE GENERALLY GET REPORTS.
AND IF THERE'S A HOME THAT'S NO LONGER INHABITABLE, RED CROSS IS NOTIFIED.
RIGHT? SO THAT'S A NOTIFICATION IF THROUGH THIS REVAMPED QUESTIONNAIRE, IF IT WERE TO BE F UH, FILLED OUT, THE APPROPRIATE AGENCY WOULD BE GIVEN THE QUESTIONNAIRE, AND THEN ALL THE REST BELONGS WITH THE LEAD AGENCY, WHICH HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS STEVE.
WELL, AND THEY OWN IT FROM THERE.
THAT'S THE SEPARATION OF RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES.
AND THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID.
BUT AS YOU'VE MENTIONED, UM, COUNCILMAN, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS DOCUMENT SAYS.
AND YES, I'VE READ IT THOROUGHLY.
AND, AND I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED.
I MEAN, I'LL LOOK AT YOU TWO THAT, THAT SPOKE.
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT THE TOWN TO BE INVOLVED WITH THAT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT IT CAN'T BE IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT THE TOWN BEING INVOLVED IN IT? BECAUSE BASICALLY A QUESTIONNAIRE THAT GOES IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND, AND I THINK YOU HEAR A LOT OF THOSE ANSWERS THROUGH THOSE MEETINGS.
CAN, CAN ONE OF YOU ANSWER THAT? WHY, WHY IS IT ESSENTIAL THAT THE TOWN, FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO ANSWER THAT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
THE DOCUMENT SAYS ONCE A POTENTIAL DISPLACEMENT EVENT IS IDENTIFIED, THE TOWN WILL ACTIVATE THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM.
OFTEN THE TOWN IS THE FIRST TO HEAR OF A DISPLACEMENT EVENT.
THEY ACTIVATE THE DISPLACEMENT TEAM, THE, THE RESPONSE TEAM, AND IT GOES ON FROM THERE.
THAT'S THE, THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY HERE IS TO ACTIVATE THE TEAM.
UM, AND IN MANY CASES WE'LL KNOW THAT BEFORE OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD KNOW IT, AND THE EARLIER THOSE AGENCIES CAN BE PUT TO WORK.
UH, AND SOME OF THAT'S HAPPENING NOW.
LIKE, LIKE, LIKE SHE SAID ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND IT ALSO SAYS THAT THERE'S ANECDOTAL INFORMATION GATHERED, ET CETERA.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS BUILT INTO THIS AS WELL.
SO WHEN THAT ADO INFORMATION IS GATHERED, WHO ARE THEY GIVING IT TO? WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR GATHERING IT? THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS, AND I THINK THAT THE APPROACH THAT'S BEING TAKEN, UM, BY THE MOTION, UM, THAT'S BEEN MADE AND ACCEPTED WITH A SECOND, UM, IS A GOOD ONE TO SEPARATE THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
AND I'M GONNA CALL THE QUESTION AND ASK FOR THE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR? EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND.
UM, SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING, UM, JUST FOR CLARITY, THAT WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED IS THAT A DOCUMENT, IF THERE IS ONE, DOES NOT HAVE THE TOWN LOGO ON IT.
IT IS A DOCUMENT OF DEEP, WELL, BOTH THE DOCUMENT ITSELF AND ANY VOLUNTARY QUESTIONNAIRE THAT IT IS NOT WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD STEEL.
IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING AS WHAT IS REQUESTED WITHIN THIS MOTION THAT IT IS TO BE WORKED ON AS A, AS A DOCUMENT WITH HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE, BUT THAT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADOPTED BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
SO I CALLED THE QUESTION, I CAN JUST MAKE ONE LAST COMMENT.
I'VE CALLED THE QUESTION THANK YOU.
UM, WANT HEAR FROM HER? UH, DO YOU, OKAY.
WE DO HAVE A REQUEST TO HEAR FROM YOU AHEAD, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE YOUR COMMENT.
JUST AN HOUR AND 20 MINUTES INTO THIS.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION THAT HAS BEEN MADE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND ON THOSE OPPOSED.
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THANK YOU.[Items 5.b & 5.c ]
ITEM ON OUR AGENDA FOR THIS, A THIS MORNING IS THE UNDER NEW BUSINESS CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUT EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF AN EASEMENT FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS TO CORDO COURTS AND THE HEDGES ENCUMBERING REAL PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 1 0 4AND SEAN CULLEN IS HERE TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION TO US.
UH, GOOD MORNING, UM, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE, AND THE CROWD HERE, I'LL TRY TO BE RELATIVELY BRIEF.
THIS IS, UM, REALLY CLEANING UP SOME LEGAL, UM, DOCUMENTS FOR CLARITY BOTH FOR THE TOWN AND THE, UM, THE HEDGES AND CORDELIA COURT.
SO TOWN ACQUIRED PROPERTY FROM, UH, SEA CABIN, UH, RACKETS IN 2002.
UM, UM, SEA CABIN ONE IS THE COR IS CORD COURT C, CABIN TWO IS THE HEDGES, UH, WHEN THE TOWN, UM, ACQUIRED THE PARCEL WITH THE COURTS ON IT.
AND I'M GONNA PUT UP A MAP REAL QUICK SO JUST IT'LL HELP.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHAT WAS, UM, TWO DEVELOPMENTS, TWO CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENTS, CORDELA COURTS, AND THE HEDGES.
THE TOWN ACQUIRED THIS PROPERTY HERE, UM, ABOUT ONE AND A HALF ACRES THAT HAS FOUR, UH, THE TENNIS COURTS ON IT AND THE ACCESS TO BOTH CORD COURTS AND THE HEDGES RUNS THROUGH THE TOWN OWNED PROPERTY.
UM, YOU PULL IN, IN THE DRIVEWAY, YOU COULD GO RIGHT, YOU CAN GO LEFT OR YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT THROUGH, BUT THERE'S NO CLEAR, UM, DELINEATION ON PREVIOUS PLATS OR LEGAL RECORDINGS THAT, UM, THAT PROVIDE CLARITY ON THAT EASEMENT.
SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS AN ORDINANCE, UM, TO CREATE THAT LEGAL DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT AND EASEMENT FOR ACCESS TO BOTH THE CORDO COURTS AND THE HEDGES OF JAMES ACKERMAN AND THE CROWD REPRESENTING CORDO COURTS.
AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH HIM FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS ACTUALLY, TO GET THIS KIND OF CLEANED UP.
SO, UM, I'M HAPPY TO DO, UH, WHATEVER ELSE YOU NEED OR GIVE YOU WHAT OTHER, OTHER INFORMATION YOU NEED TO MOVE THIS ON WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
BUT THAT'S, I KNOW FOR TIME'S SAKE, I'LL JUST STOP THERE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BY ANY OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, STEVE, ANY OF OUR OTHER COUNCILMEN WOMEN IN THE AUDIENCE? AND, UM, IS THERE A MOTION MOVE APPROVAL? SORRY, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO, UM, THIS RECOMMENDATION? THE ONLY PERSON THAT I HAD WAS MR. WILLIAMS. NO, YOU'RE GOOD.
UM, THEN ALL IN FAVOR OPPOSED? AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND LETTER C, CONSIDERATION OF AN RESOLUTION, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXEC EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF AN AGREEMENT WITH CORDO COURTS AND THE HEDGES REGARDING SIGNS ON REAL PROPERTY OWNED, LOCATED AT 1 0 4 CORDO PARKWAY BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
AND AGAIN, SEAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THE, UM, THIS ONE RUNS IN PARALLEL WITH THE ACCESS EASEMENT, UH, WHICH REQUIRES AN ORDINANCE OF TOWN COUNCIL.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAIN ACCESS OFF CORDO IS ON THE TOWN PROPERTY.
UM, SO CORDO AND CERTAINLY THE HEDGES DON'T HAVE, UM, UM, SORT OF ANY, UM, RECOGNITION, UM, ON THEIR PROPERTY AT THE, UH, AT THE INTERFACE THERE OF CORDO COURTS AND, AND THE DRIVEWAY.
AND SO THIS SECOND ITEM IS AN AGREEMENT TO, UM, TO MANAGE AND MAINTAIN THE SIGN, UH, ON TOWN PROPERTY, UH, WORKING WITH CORD COURTS AND THE HEDGES SO THAT THERE'S THAT SIGNAGE, UM, ON, ON CORDO PARKWAY.
UM, THE TOWN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SIGN FOR SIGNED MAINTENANCE AND, AND UPKEEP AND REPAIR.
AND THAT IF ANYTHING CHANGES WITH THE SIGNED DESIGN THAT WE PROVIDE 30 DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE TO BOTH THE HEDGES AND CORDO COURTS.
UM, AND IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST PROVIDING THAT, UM, THAT SIGN THAT'S BEEN THERE, UM, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, UM, CLARITY ON THE AGREEMENT WITH BOTH THOSE COMMUNITIES.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? NO APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS? UM, FROM ANYONE WHO IS IN ATTENDANCE? NO.
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OPPOSED? OH, GO AHEAD.WAS THERE NOT, I JUST HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT AFTER YOU'RE DONE.
UM, I JUST DO, I WANNA SAY, AS THIS MOVES FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL, WE'LL MOVE THE ORDINANCE FORWARD FOR FIRST READING.
UM, AND THEN THE SIGN AGREEMENT, BECAUSE IT'S A RESOLUTION, WILL COME FORWARD WHEN THE ORDINANCE HAS SECOND READING, AND THEN THEY'LL CLOSE BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS OUT.
[5.d. Consideration of an Ordinance to Amend Title 16 of the Municipal Code, theLand Management Ordinance, to Amend the Procedures for DevelopmentPlan Reviews and Major Subdivision Plan Reviews to Include the FollowingSections: 16-2-101,16-2-102, and 16-2-103 - Missy Luick, Director of Planning ]
CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND TITLE 16 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE, THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE TO AMEND PROCEDURES OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEWS AND MAJOR SUBDIVISION PLAN REVIEWS TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS 16 2 1 0 1 16 2 AND 1 0 2 AND 16 2 1 0 3.AND MISSY LEIC, WHO'S OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, IS MAKING THAT PRESENTATION AND SHE'LL BE WITH US IN A MOMENT.
THEY PROBABLY THOUGHT I WAS GONNA GO A LITTLE LONGER WITH THESE TWO ITEMS, BUT, UH, WE'LL GRAB THEM AND THAT'S OKAY.
UH, SO NOW I AM HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.
UM, THIS IS PART OF OUR LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AMENDMENT PLAN, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN OUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN AS PART OF THE FIRST STRATEGY, WHICH IS TO ESTABLISH A GROWTH MANAGEMENT STRATEGY.
AND, UM, AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, THE LMO AMENDMENTS PROJECT IS BROKEN INTO TWO PARTS, THE PRIORITY AMENDMENTS AND THE FULL CODE OVERHAUL.
THE PRIORITY AMENDMENTS AIM TO ADDRESS PRESSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ISSUES WITH THE BEST SHORT TERM SOLUTION WHILE MINIMIZING UNINTENDED OUTCOMES.
WE DISCUSSED A NUMBER OF PRIORITY AMENDMENTS IN OUR SEPTEMBER WORKSHOP OF COUNCIL.
ONE OF THOSE WAS RELATED TO, UM, ADVANCED NOTICE OF, UH, MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS AND, UH, MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
UM, IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT, UM, WE SHOULD REQUIRE A HEARING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS, AS WELL AS REQUIRING ADVANCE NOTICE, UH, AND MAILING TO, UH, BEYOND THE STANDARD 350 FEET.
UM, REQUIRE NOTICE OF THE APPLICATION, BE POSTED ON SITE, UH, REQUIRE A PRE-APPLICATION, UH, MEETING INSTEAD OF ENCOURAGE IT AND TO ALLOW THE LMO OFFICIAL TO ADVANCE MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WHEN THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, UM, THAT IS THE AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER.
UM, IT IS AN IMPROVEMENT TO A PROCESS.
UM, SO THIS IS REALLY A PROCEDURAL CHANGE IN HOW WE REVIEW AND APPROVE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS.
UM, IT IS, UH, CODIFYING A PRACTICE THAT WE HAVE HAD IN PLACE FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, UM, WHERE WE HAVE BEEN, UH, PUTTING ON OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDAS AS A STAFF REPORT, MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS.
UM, AND OUR PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN HEARING THEM.
UM, BUT WHAT NOT HAS NOT BEEN IN PLACE IS ALL OF THAT NOTICE, ADVANCE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS WHAT THIS, UH, PARTICULAR AMENDMENT DOES.
UM, SO THE SUMMARY OF WHAT THE AMENDMENT DOES HERE IS, UH, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BACK IN SEPTEMBER, UH, AT THAT WORKSHOP.
IT MANDATES THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS.
UM, IT REQUIRES THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS, UM, MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS, AND THOSE MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO OR ACROSS THE STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL USES.
IT REQUIRES ADVANCED NOTICE IN THREE CATEGORIES.
ONE THAT THERE IS NOTICE PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER, TWO, THAT THERE IS MAILED NOTICE TO, UH, PROPERTIES WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC NOTICE SIGN, UH, POSTED ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HOLD A HEARING, UH, PUBLIC HEARING FOR REVIEW OF, OF THESE ACTIVITIES.
THE, UM, THERE'S AN ANALYSIS TABLE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE MEMO THAT REALLY WALKS THROUGH HOW THE CODE CHANGES DO EXACTLY WHAT I JUST IDENTIFIED.
UM, IT IDENTIFIES AN M WHICH, WHICH STANDS FOR MANDATORY FOR THE PRE-APPLICATION REQUIREMENT.
UM, THERE'S LANGUAGE HERE THAT, THAT IDENTIFIES THE CHANGE TO THE MAJOR SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENT, UM, THAT THAT APPLICATION IS FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW.
UM, AND THE SAME LANGUAGE IS FOR, UH, THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
UM, IT IDENTIFIES HERE AGAIN IN THE CODE, THOSE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS BOTH IN, UH, PUBLISHED NOTICE, MAILED NOTICE, AND POSTED NOTICE, UM,
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SOME TEXT AMENDMENT REVIEW STANDARDS.THOSE STANDARDS ARE PART OF 16 2 1 0 3 B THREE WITHIN THE CODE, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REQUIRED BY CHANGED CONDITIONS ADDRESSES.
A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSES IN A 10 OF THE ZONING DISTRICT WITHIN THE ORDINANCE WOULD RESULT IN A LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT AND WOULD NOT RESULT IN SIGNIFICANTLY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
WE'VE ANSWERED ALL OF THOSE TEXT AMENDMENT REVIEW CRITERIA HERE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, MOST IMPORTANTLY, I THINK THIS, UH, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CORE VALUE GOAL ONE, UH, TO FOSTER A PLANNING PROCESS THAT'S INCLUSIVE, COLLABORATIVE, ONGOING, AND RESPONSIVE TO CHANGING CIRCUMSTANCES AND STAKEHOLDER PRIORITIES, UH, RESPONSE TO CHANGING CONDITIONS BY IMPROVING TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
IT ADDRESSES A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED BY ENSURING RESIDENTS ARE BETTER INFORMED ABOUT PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS AND HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENGAGEMENT.
IT UPHOLDS THE INTENT OF ZONING REGULATIONS BY PROMOTING COMPATIBILITY AMONG LAND USES AND FOSTERING ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT, UH, CREATES A MORE LOGICAL AND STRUCTURED REVIEW PROCESS, UH, IMPROVING OVERSIGHT AND STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT BY REQUIRING PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS, EXPANDED PUBLIC NOTICE AND ADDITIONAL PUBLIC PLANNING, COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND MINIMIZES POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
THROUGH TRANSPARENT REVIEW OF CERTAIN SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW APPLICATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, AND, AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL.
THEY HAD TWO SMALL CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED IN IN THE AMENDMENT, UH, BEFORE YOU TODAY.
ONE WAS, UM, A MANDATORY HEARING, UH, CHANGE THAT FROM A MANDATORY HEARING TO A MANDATORY PUBLIC HEARING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN REPLACE WHAT, WHAT WAS WORDED AS ADVISORY BODY TO PLANNING COMMISSION WITHIN THE TEXT.
AND THIS IS AGAIN, BEFORE YOU AS A COMMITTEE BEFORE IT MOVES ON TO TOWN COUNCIL.
THE CODE ALSO IDENTIFIES TOWN COUNCIL'S ROLE IN TEXT AMENDMENT REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION THAT'S OUTLINED HERE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? UM, MY UNDERSTANDING HERE IS THAT THESE APPLICATIONS HISTORICALLY NEEDED APPROVAL ONLY BY THE LMO OFFICIAL.
AND THAT AS A RESULT OF THE SITUATION A FEW YEARS AGO IN JONESVILLE WHERE AN OFFICIAL HAD APPROVED SOME OF THE PROJECTS MANY YEARS PREVIOUSLY, THERE WAS TOTAL LACK OF AWARENESS ON THE PART OF MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT THIS IS INTENDED AS A MEANS OF MAKING KNOWN TO THE COMMUNITY OF PROSPECTIVE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, BUT THE DECISION STILL REMAINS WITH THE LMO OFFICIAL.
NOT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR ANY OTHER GROUP, IT'S JUST THAT NOW THERE IS A PROCEDURE TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS, IS AWARE OF PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS.
YOU'RE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
UM, THE, UH, THE CRITERIA FOR, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS, MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS IS STILL THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.
UM, AND YES, THE LMO OFFICIAL IS STILL THE ADMINISTER OF, UH, THE APPROVING BODY OF, UH, THOSE PARTICULAR APPLICATIONS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.
AND YES, THE PUBLIC HEARING COMPONENT OF THAT OFFERS TRANSPARENCY TO THOSE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THAT PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND, AND SO BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT, UM, AND UNDERSTAND HOW IT MEETS, UM, THE, THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.
AND THAT BASIS, I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM OUR OTHER TWO COUNCILMEN, UM, IN, IN COUNCILMEN IN THE, IN THE ROOM TODAY? I AM NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT, LET'S JUST SAY THAT, UH, THANK YOU.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, YOU, UM, UH, MR. ALFRED ASKED MY QUESTION, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, BUT THE OTHER ONE, WHAT HAS TO DO WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT, UH, REVIEW AND DECISION, UH, MAKING PROCESS AND, AND THAT IT SAYS THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL'S, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT SAYS THAT PROPOSED CHANGES OR DEPARTURES FROM THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL BE FIRST SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO APPLY WHAT'S ON HERE TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH BLUE HOUR.
UM, AND, UM, IT, IT GOT A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE THERE WERE LOTS OF CHANGES.
SO WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS MOVING FORWARD, IF SOMEONE COMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN THEY WANT TO MAKE CHANGES, IT WILL
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NOT MOVE FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL UNTIL IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGAIN.SO THAT TAKES A STEP OUT OF, IT FEELS LIKE IT TAKES A STEP OUTTA THE PROCESS, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS BY EITHER MISSY OR SEAN OR WITH REGARD TO THAT QUESTION OR COMMENT? SO WE'RE CLEAR? I APOLOGIZE.
WHILE YOU WERE TALKING, I I NO, NO PROBLEM.
THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WHO CAN HELP OUT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO APPLY WHAT'S IN THIS SECTION TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH BLUE HOUR.
AND SO WHEN PEOPLE COME AND PRESENT IN FRONT OF, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, IF AFTER THE FACT THERE ARE CHANGES THAT THEY ARE MAKING, UH, THAT IT SHOULD NOT GO TO TOWN COUNCIL AND IT SHOULD GO STRAIGHT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW.
SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UM, SO THE BLUE HOUR REQUEST WAS AN ACTUAL TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE CODE, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS TO BE, HAS A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND IS, UH, ALSO APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL.
THIS IS, UM, JUST A PUBLIC HEARING STEP WHERE, UM, THE MAJOR SUBDIVISION MAJOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT MEET THIS CRITERIA HAVE AN APPLICATION PROCESS THAT'S OUTLINED WITHIN THE CODE.
AND THIS PUBLIC HEARING STEP WOULD, UM, WOULD JUST BE THAT TRANSPARENCY STEP.
THE, THE LMO OFFICIALS STILL WOULD APPROVE THOSE APPLICATIONS ADMINISTRATIVELY WHEN IT MEETS THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.
SO TYPICALLY IN A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, THERE'S THE FIRST SUBMITTAL, IT GETS REVIEWED BY STAFF, THERE'S THE LENGTHY PLAN CORRECTIONS REPORT, UM, OF WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO, UM, AMEND THEIR PLANS TO BRING IT INTO CONFORMANCE WITH THE CODE.
THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.
THERE WOULD JUST BE ALONG THAT REVIEW PERIOD, THEY WOULD COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THERE WOULD BE, UH, TRANSPARENCY IN A HEARING WHERE, UH, THOSE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS COULD COME TO A MEETING AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PLANNED.
UM, BUT THEN THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY WOULD STILL BE THE LMO OFFICIAL.
DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? NO.
UM, BECAUSE THIS SECTION TALKS ABOUT THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE TOWN COUNCIL AND THE TOWN COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, AS YOU GO DOWN, IT SAYS THE TOWN COUNCIL'S DECISION SHALL BE ONE OF THE FOLLOWING, ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE OR A RESOLUTION.
SO THAT'S WHERE I HAD MY QUESTION REGARDING CHANGES TO THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND WHEN IT COMES TO TOWN COUNCIL.
SO YES, IF, IF THERE WAS CHANGES TO THIS TEXT THAT, UM, THAT WERE TO BE MADE AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IT ALREADY HAD.
SO IF WE, IF THERE WERE CHANGES WE NEED TO CHANGE A WORD OR TWO, THEN YES, IT WOULD GO BACK AS A REMAND TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO MY ANALOGY TO BLUE HOUR IS THIS IS ABOUT, STRICTLY ABOUT THIS TOPIC AND NOT ABOUT TEXT AMENDMENTS IN GENERAL.
UH, THIS IS, UH, CORRECT, THIS IS THIS TOWN COUNCIL REVIEW AND DECISION IS PART OF HOW ALL TEXT AMENDMENTS ARE REVIEWED AND THAT APPROVAL PROCESS THAT'S, THAT'S OUTLINED WITHIN THE CODE.
MAY I ASK, UNLESS, LET'S SEE IF I CAN HELP WITH THE QUESTION.
'CAUSE I THINK MELINDA, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
AND IF I, AND IF I GET WRONG, THEN JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'LL ASK, WE'LL MOVE ON.
BUT WHAT SEEMED TO HAVE HAPPENED DURING BLUE HOUR, AND IT'S HAPPENED MAYBE AT OTHER TIMES TOO.
AND SO NOT TO JUST HANG IT THERE, BUT THAT THERE WERE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES AND I THINK IT'S THE LEVEL OF CHANGES THAT TAKE PLACE.
AND, AND AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT GET REMANDED BACK FOR CLARIFICATION AND CHANGE PRIOR TO IT COMING TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR A VOTE? AND THAT I THINK WAS THE, A BIG QUESTION MARK IN THIS LAST, UM, GO AROUND ON, UM, SO I'M NOT SURE FIRST MELINDA, DID I GET THAT RIGHT? THAT WHAT YOU YES, YOU DID.
I'M NOT SURE IF I CLARIFIED THE QUESTION AT ALL, BUT, AND I SEE CURTIS OR, UH, COLTRANE IS STANDING, AND I SEE ALSO THAT YOU'RE, UM, HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFICULTY TODAY.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE QUESTION FROM BACK THERE, YOU CERTAINLY PLEASE DO.
BLUE HOUR WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO ADVANCE IT WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
BEFORE IT GOT TO TOWN COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT ITSELF PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE
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ORDINANCE, WHICH WERE THEN REVIEWED BY TOWN COUNCIL, AND THE WHOLE MATTER WAS SENT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARS A MATTER AND ADVANCES AN ORDINANCE TO COUNSEL WITH WHATEVER ITS RECOMMENDATION MIGHT BE AT THE DISCUSSION BETWEEN AND AMONGST COUNSEL, PERHAPS WITH THE APPLICANT.
SOME CHANGE IS PROPOSED THERE, NOT, NOT, WHILE IT, IT DOESN'T GET REWRITTEN AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS HEARD IT THE WAY THE STATUTE IS WRITTEN.
I MEAN, UNLESS YOU'RE LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE CORRECTING TYPOS OR CORRECTING GRAMMATICAL CHANGES, IT HAS TO GO BACK.
UM, BUT BLUE HOUR WAS NOT A TYPICAL THING WHERE THERE WERE MATERIAL CHANGES TO WHAT WAS PROPOSED MADE BY THE APPLICANT IN BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION AND ITS DISCUSSION BEFORE COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
AND TWO THINGS, MISSY, TWO THINGS ON THIS.
UM, WHEN I'M DONE, IF, IF WE COULD ASK, UH, MS. LEIC TO, UH, DEFINE MAJOR SUBDIVISION, UH, MINOR SUBDIVISION, I JUST THINK FOR THE, THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC THAT'S NOT IN THE PACKET AS FAR AS THE DEFINITION'S CONCERNED, I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS WHAT WILL APPLY.
AND SECONDLY, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE JUST HAD A LITTLE CONFUSION.
UM, ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, THAT, UH, JOHN Q PUBLIC REALLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE OFF ANY FALSE INDICATION THAT WHEN AN APPLICANT MAKES AN APPLICATION AND IT COMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT SOMEHOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HAVE SOME SAY, OKAY.
UH, I THINK SOMETIMES WE BELIEVE IN HERE WHAT WE WANT TO BELIEVE IN HERE, BUT THE ELMORE OFFICIALS ARE STILL GOING TO BE THE PERSON MAKING THE DECISION.
UM, SO AS THOSE ITEMS COME FORTH, TYPICALLY IN AN AGENDA ITEM, IT JUST LISTS OUT A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE, UH, APPLICATION CODE ALONG WITH IT.
AND IT'S VERY GENERIC IN MY OPINION.
I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND WE START TO TRY IT ON, WE NEED TO BE VERY DELIBERATE WITH OUR AGENDAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT THIS IS FOR TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, NOT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WEIGH IN ON A DECISION, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SORT OF MISCONCEPTION OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
THIS IS A TRANSPARENCY, UH, EFFORT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ANYONE ELSE? YES, MR. WILLIAMS? THANK YOU, MS. BECKER.
I'M CHESTER WILLIAMS. UM, I, I STILL HAVE ONE CONCERN ABOUT THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE TABLE THAT'S IN 16 2 1 0 1 AND THE PROVISIONS OF, WHAT IS THIS, 16 2 1 0 3 4 C, UM, WHERE MY OFFICE IS OVER ON EXECUTIVE PARK ROAD, IF I WANTED TO RECONFIGURE THE PARKING LOT OR SOMETHING.
WELL, I GOTTA GET A MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL, AND I COME AND I LOOK AT THE CHART HERE, MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
I THINK MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE A PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE.
THE OFFICIAL IS THE ONE WHO MAKES THE DECISION.
THE ONLY TIME THE PLANNING COMMISSION GETS INVOLVED IS IF THERE'S AN APPEAL.
MR. COLTRANE WANTS TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO HIS PARKING LOT, WHERE HIS OFFICE IS GET, NEEDS TO GET A MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
WELL, HE COMES DOWN HERE AND HE LOOKS AT THE SAME THING AND SAYS, OKAY, I HAVE TO GO THE OFFICIAL.
BUT WHEN YOU READ THE PROVISIONS OF 16 2 1 0 3 A BC, UH, GG FOUR C TWO, A MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW WHEN ADJACENT TO OR ACROSS THE STREET FROM A RESIDENTIAL USE, SHALL BE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE SAME MANNER AS A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW.
WELL, THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL USE ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE MR. COL TRAIN'S OFFICE IS, BUT NOWHERE IN IS THAT MENTIONED IN THE CHART.
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AND THE CHART IT SAYS, IDENTIFIES THOSE APPLICATIONS THAT REQUIRE A HEARING.WELL, MR. COLTRANE'S APPLICATION REQUIRES A HEARING, BUT IT'S NOT IDENTIFIED AS THAT IN THE CHART.
I THINK IT IMPLEMENTS WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED TO YOU.
I DON'T THINK THAT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT IT'S EASY TO FIX THE CHART SO THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE TEXT.
AND IF IT DOES HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BETTER TO DO IT RIGHT THAN TO DO IT FAST.
AND FOR MR. BROWN'S COMMENTS, HE'S EXACTLY RIGHT THERE.
THIS IS THE, THE OFFICIAL IS THE ONE WHO MAKES THE DECISION, AND IT DOESN'T, AND THESE SORTS OF THINGS, THESE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, THEY'RE MINISTERIAL DECISIONS.
YOU GIVE THE TOWN STAFF EVERYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, REVIEW APPROVAL, THEY GOTTA GIVE YOU YOUR PERMIT.
IT'S NOT A POPULARITY CONTEST, IT'S NOT A BEAUTY CONTEST.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE NEIGHBORS SAY.
AS A PRACTICAL EFFECT, IF YOU MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, YOU GET YOUR PERMIT TRANSPARENCY.
EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S COMING, BUT IT'S, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE, IT'S LIKE THE MAIDEN TIDE ONTO THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
THE TRAIN'S COMING, YOU KNOW, IT'S COMING.
AND NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT IF YOU MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
ANY ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS? ALL RIGHT.
UM, MISSY, I HAD TWO QUICK QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
WHATEVER THEY ARE FOR YOU ON THIS, IT HAS A LOT TO DO UNLESS SOMETHING HAS CHANGED.
I SEE THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, TALKING.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANNA UPDATE US ON WITH REGARD TO? OKAY, SO, UM, YES, THE LMO OFFICIAL REMAINS THE ONE, AND YES, THE CRITERIA OF THE LMO HAS TO BE MET.
THE TRANSPARENCY ISSUE IS CRITICAL.
WE'VE HAD THIS ISSUE WITH REGARD TO TRANSPARENCY ON THIS ISLAND FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN INVOLVED, SO SINCE 2014.
AND THERE WAS NO TRANSPARENCY AND IN FACT IMPACTED ALL OF US IN MANY WAYS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN THAT UP AND TRY TO MAKE IT MORE, UM, RESIDENT FRIENDLY.
BUT I BELIEVE IN ALL THE DISCUSSIONS AS WE WERE HAVING THEM, THE IDEA OF IT JUST COMING FORTH THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEM JUST KIND OF BEING THE HOLDER OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT THERE WAS, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, I THOUGHT AN ATTEMPT TO HAVE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS, USEFUL RECOMMENDATIONS WITH REGARD TO, UH, SITE PLAN, ET CETERA, SO THAT WE COULD BEGIN TO DEVELOP A MORE COMMUNITY BASED PROJECT.
SOMETHING WITHOUT ALL THE STRAIGHT LINES, MORE OF A, UM, RESIDENTIAL FEEL.
DID I MISS SOMETHING IN, IN THAT, ARE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS STILL BEING ASKED OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SUBMIT WHEN THEY REVIEW A PROJECT? SO, OR ARE THEY JUST THE HOLDER OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEY'RE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING? UM, WE DISCUSSED WHETHER OR NOT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL CRITERIA AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
HOWEVER, THE REVIEW CRITERIA IS THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, NOT ANOTHER SET OF CRITERIA REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO AFTER DISCUSSION, BOTH WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM, INCLUDING THE TOWN ATTORNEY, UM, UNLESS WE WERE GOING TO REWRITE IT SUCH THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE DECISION-MAKING AUTHORITY, WHICH THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT FOR ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, UM, OR THEY WOULD RETAIN THAT, THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION.
AND SO YES, THEY WILL CONSIDER IT.
AND IN, IN, I'LL JUST SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN TAKING THESE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW, AND THERE'S GENERALLY HEALTHY DISCUSSION AMONG THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
A LOT OF THOSE, UM, COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK IS INCORPORATED INTO, UM, THE FINAL PLANS.
SO IT DOES, IT DOES RESULT IN BETTER SITE PLAN, IN MORE THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, PLANNING ON THE ISLAND.
UM, I THINK THAT THAT TRANSPARENCY COMPONENT IS CRITICAL TO WHAT THIS IS ACHIEVING.
UM, BUT NO, IT DOES NOT INTRODUCE ANOTHER SET OF CRITERIA AND A LAYER OF APPROVAL, UH, STEP.
UH, BUT THAT DISCUSSION AND INPUT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, UH, BOTH THE DEVELOP THE DEVELOPER AND TOWN STAFF WHO IS REVIEWING IT, WILL HEAR THAT DISCUSSION AND BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK INTO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
I THINK THAT DEPTH OF CONVERSATION IS THE IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS.
WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE WITHOUT MAKING IT AN OFFICIAL STEP AND AN OFFICIAL STAMP OF APPROVAL ALONG THE WAY.
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AND, AND THAT'S, THOSE ARE ALL REALLY GOOD THINGS.UM, I DO WANNA MENTION THOUGH, I'VE SAT THROUGH A LOT OF THOSE MEETINGS AND SOME OF THAT CONVERSATION HAS HAPPENED, UM, SOME AND SOMETIMES REALLY GREAT AND SOMETIMES NOT.
AND IT, AFTER SPEAKING TO A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UM, THEY SEEM TO EXPRESS TO ME AN INTEREST IN HAVING A WORKSHOP, EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOP INFORMING THEM ABOUT REALLY WHAT IT IS.
THEY'RE, THEY DON'T WHAT IT IS THAT THEY CAN SAY, WHAT INPUT THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO GIVE.
UM, AND I THINK WITH A LITTLE BIT OF THAT TYPE OF, UM, INFORMATION, THAT PROCESS WILL WORK OUT A LOT BETTER.
RESIDENTS WILL BE HEARD, THEIR THOUGHTFUL, UM, INSIGHTS AND CONSIDERATION, UM, CAN BE PROVIDED BACK TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND TO THE OFFICIAL SO THAT WE GET BETTER PRODUCTS IN THE END.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL FOR.
THIS IS ULTIMATELY THE PROCESS OF GETTING TO A BETTER COMMUNITY PROJECT.
SO, UM, SO THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO MENTION ALONG WITH THAT.
UM, I THINK THAT WE CAN CALL THE VOTE.
AND ALL IN FAVOR, DID YOU, YOU MOVED, YOU SECONDED.
IT'S A THREE OH APPROVAL, AND I BELIEVE THAT ENDS OUR AGENDA OTHER THAN A MOMENT FOR ANYONE ELSE WHO MAY BE HERE WHO WANTED TO GIVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, NOT RELATED TO AGENDA ITEMS AND SEEING NONE WE'RE ADJOURNED.
MY NAME IS JOHN RUMBLE AND I'M THE AIRPORT DIRECTOR HERE AT HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT.
AND I AM SUPER EXCITED ON BOTH A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL AND A PERSONAL LEVEL, UM, TO BE HERE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
UM, JUST A QUICK STORY ABOUT JUST ME AND MY FAMILY.
WE LIVE IN THE NORTH PART OF THE COUNTY AND WE OFTEN, UH, DO KIND OF A STAYCATION UP THERE, UH, UP AROUND RIP ISLAND.
SO I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE BLUE SHIRTS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE MANY TIMES WITH THE FRI ISLAND PATROL.
UM, MY, I'VE SEEN A NEST BOIL, WHICH IS AWESOME.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN ON COUNTLESS TURTLE INVENTORIES IN THE EVENINGS AND THAT, AND THE, THE ONE EVENT I'VE NOT SEEN, I'VE NOT SEEN A MAMA LAY, SO I CANNOT WAIT FOR THAT SOMEDAY.
UM, MY CHILDREN COULD BE HERE TO TELL THE STORY ABOUT WHAT YOU DO AND DON'T DO ON THE BEACH.
THEY KNOW HOW TO FILL IN THE HOLES.
THEY KNOW HOW TO TAKE ALL THE, THE STUFF OFF THE BEACH WHEN THE DAY'S DONE SO THEY CAN DELIVER THE CLASSES FOR YOU GUYS.
SO, UM, WHEN, WHEN MEIR CAME AND SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO PUT, YOU KNOW, A, A TURTLE IN THE AIRPORT, I SAID, BRING IT ON.
AND, AND DAVID AMES BROUGHT THE SUBJECT UP AS WELL THAN THE TOWN.
AND I SAID, THERE, THERE'S NO BETTER THING TO PUT IN THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT TERMINAL THAN A TURTLE.
SO, UM, WE'RE VERY ENTHUSIASTIC TO, UH, TO UNVEIL THIS TODAY.
VERY GLAD THAT YOU'RE ALL HERE.
AND, UH, WE WANNA WELCOME OUR TOWN COUNCILWOMAN HERE.
MS. BECKER, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS IN HERE THAT WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE? WE HAVE THE MASKS ON, SO THIS WHOLE DISGUISE THING KIND OF THROWS ME OFF SOMETIMES, BUT, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR GATHERING.
WE DO HAVE AMBER KEAN HERE TOO, AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE HER COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE PROGRAM, UM, AND JUST TELL US ABOUT THE EXHIBIT AND THEN I THINK MAYOR'S GONNA SAY SOME WORDS TOO, SO, OKAY.
WHENEVER ANYONE SAYS TO ME, AMBER, THAT THAT'S JUST NOT GONNA HAPPEN, OR AMBER, THAT CAN'T BE DONE, THAT'S WHEN I MAKE IT HAPPEN.
SO WHEN I CALL THEM IN CHICAGO AND ASK FOR ONE INSTEAD OF 100, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, IT'S AMBER AND HILTON TIDE.
THIS ONE IS OUR SECOND ONE IN THE SERIES, AND IT IS FOR OUR LIGHTS OUT CAMPAIGN, WHICH WE STARTED, UH, REALLY HIGHLIGHTING IN 2020.
SO WE HAVE OUR LIGHTING ORDINANCE THAT JUST GOT REVISED.
UM, IT'S UP TO DATE, BUT MYRTLE, MY MASK IS FALLING.
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ACTUALLY A TURTLE THAT WE TRACK WITH DNA AND SHE IS, SHE'S BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE SCIENTISTS AT UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA BECAUSE SHE IS A SUPERMOM, WHICH MEANS THAT SHE HAS DAUGHTERS THAT ARE NESTING, WHICH MEANS HER DAUGHTERS ARE 30, SHE HAS TO BE AT LEAST 60, AND SHE'S PROBABLY OLDER THAN THAT.SHE LAYS UP TO EIGHT NESTS IN A SEASON, WHICH IS MORE THAN WE HAVE EVER RECORDED ON ANY OTHER TURTLE ON OUR BEACH.
SHE ONLY NESTS ON HILTON HEAD AND SHE NESTS EVERY OTHER YEAR, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE.
USUALLY IT'S A TWO YEAR BREAK.
SO MYRTLE IS AN EXCEPTIONAL FEMALE TURTLE THAT COMES TO HILTON HEAD.
SHE TRAVELS ALL OVER AND WE JUST, UH, WANNA RECOGNIZE HER AS A TRAVELER HERE IN THE AIRPORT.
WE WANT THE TOURISTS TO COME IN AND SEE HER IMMEDIATELY AND KNOW THAT THEY'RE HERE TO SEE TURTLES POSSIBLY ON THE BEACH.
AND THEN WE'LL GIVE THEM THE MESSAGE ON OUR WEBSITE, THE QR CODE, TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO TO HELP WITH THAT IMPACT ON THE TURTLES.
THIS IS MY STAFF OVER HERE IN THE BLUE SHIRTS.
UH, THEY GO OUT ON THE BEACH AT FIVE O'CLOCK EVERY MORNING, UH, STARTING MAY 1ST.
SO FAR NOTHING, UH, WE EXPECT TO NEST ANY DAY NOW.
THERE'S ONE IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA IN SEABROOK ISLAND, SO, UH, WE'RE HOPING FOR THE SECOND AND, UH, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO REPORTING AT LEAST 300 NESTS AT THE END OF THE SEASON.
THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR COMING.
I'M THE ARTIST WHO HAS PAINTED THIS SCULPTURE.
I'M CURRENTLY WORKING ON NUMBER THREE AND I'VE GOT THE HELP OF THE CHILDREN AT ST.
FRANCIS SCHOOL, WHICH IS JUST DOWN THE STREET A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE A POINT OF RECOGNIZING RENEE HAUER, WHO HAD VOLUNTEERED MATERIAL.
AND I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW MANY HOURS TO BUILD THIS VINTAGE TRAVEL TRUNK.
THE COMPONENTS ARE ANTIQUE BRASS, UM, 50-YEAR-OLD LEATHER OFF OF UPHOLSTERY, OLD UPHOLSTERY OUTTA CHICAGO, AND A LOT OF LOVE.
AND, UH, IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THIS PARTICULAR TRAVEL TRUNK, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE STICKERS THAT SHE'S ACCUMULATED ARE FROM ALL OF HER TRAVELS FROM HERE DOWN THROUGH THE CARIBBEAN, UP THE COAST, A LITTLE BIT OVER TO THE AZORE.
SO SHE KIND OF SHARES HER LITTLE TRAVEL VENTURES WITH YOU.
SO IT'S RATHER APPROPRIATE THAT SHE BE ON A TRAVEL TRUNK IN THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT, AND WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE HER HERE AND FOCUS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A NICE, IT'S A NICE WELCOME FOR PEOPLE, BUT IT'S ALSO A HUGE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT, WHICH IS CRITICAL WITH THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO HILTON HEAD.
AS ALL YOU VOLUNTEERS KNOW, IT IS SO DIFFICULT TO GET THE WORD OUT TO EVERY SINGLE VISITOR THAT'S ONLY HERE FOR MAYBE SEVEN DAYS.
AND HOPEFULLY WITH THIS TYPE OF, UM, PRODUCT OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE QR CODES AND THE SIGNS, THE WORD WILL GET OUT, AND OUR SUPERSTAR WILL BE WORLD RENOWNED.