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UH, WE'LL BEGIN, UH, WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, ROSS, A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.
UNITED THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE.
LIBERTY, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR.
NEXT, UH, WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
HOWEVER, WE NEED A MOTION TO PROVE THE AGENDA WITHOUT THE MEETING.
UH, THEY ARE, UH, INCOMPLETE AT THE MOMENT.
UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA WITHOUT THE MEETING MINUTES? MOTION TO APPROVE.
I'LL WILLIAM WILLIAM'S SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, SIR.
WE ARE ON TO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, LADIES, ALLEN, MIDDLE SCHOOL, GREEN SPACE.
DON'T TAKE THAT ONE MORE TIME.
UM, WE HAVE ONLINE, UM, ETHAN JAMES, WHO IS, UH, A REAL ESTATE AGENT FOR TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO LADIES ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO IF YOU ARE, UH, COMING FROM ST.
HELENA, GOING TOWARDS THE INTERSECTION THERE AT LADIES ISLAND TO GO PAST COUGAR DRIVE IN THE NEXT TWO LOTS FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT I THINK HE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT.
UM, MR. JAMES, CAN YOU TELL US WHY YOU WANTED TO BE HERE? YES, THANK YOU.
AND I HAD INTENTIONS ON BEING PRESENT IN THE MEETING.
YOU GOT TIED UP IN BLUFFED, AND I AM HEADING THAT WAY.
IF I MAKE IT THERE SOON, I MAY POP IN IN PERSON, BUT, UH, UH, YEAH.
SO I DO REPRESENT TWO OWNERS, UH, THAT BORDER LADIES ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL PROPERTY.
UM, WE HAVE HAD THESE PARCELS FOR SALE FOR SOME TIME.
UM, I BELIEVE WE EVEN CAME TO, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PRIOR TO BEFORE, UM, UH, OF A POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF THESE TWO PARCELS.
UM, RECENTLY WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO THE, UH, GREEN SPACE TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE THROUGH BEAUFORT COUNTY.
UM, THE GREEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE DID SHOW INTEREST IN, UH, TRYING TO DO SOME SORT OF A PARTNERSHIP, UM, WITH THIS, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT ON ACQUIRING THESE TWO PARCELS.
UH, COLLECTIVELY THERE IS SIX ACRES THAT RUN CONTIGUOUS WITH LADIES ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL.
UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THE OPPORTUNITY OF, OF WHAT THIS COULD POTENTIALLY DO TO, UH, THE, THE SITE PLAN FOR THE NEW SCHOOL THAT'S BEING BUILT, UM, ALONG WITH PROHIBITING SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING TO LADIES ISLAND, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD BE A HUGE FACTOR FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND, UH, ANYWAY, WE REALLY JUST HERE TO KIND OF OPEN DISCUSSIONS, UM, TO SEE IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF A COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE BEAUFORT COUNTY, AND, UH, THE GREEN SPACE TAX COMMITTEE.
MR. JAMES, KEN, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT, THAT THE COUNTY'S COMMITTEE NEEDED TO HEAR SOMETHING FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BEFORE THEY WOULD CONSIDER MORE ON THE APPLICATION OF THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS.
AM I CORRECT IN THAT? YES, MA'AM.
SO WHEN WE PRESENTED TO THE, THE GREEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK, UH, I THINK IT WAS THE CONSENSUS OF THE FULL COMMITTEE, UM, THAT THEY DID HAVE INTEREST IN THIS, UH, PROJECT, UM, OR, OR POTENTIAL ACQUISITION.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY, THEY BASICALLY DEFERRED TO THE SCHOOL, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT TO, TO ENGAGE THE LEVEL OF INTEREST FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING, SOMETHING WORK WITH THESE PARCELS.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS THAT, UH, SHARED PARKING IS SOMETHING THEY WERE INTERESTED IN FOR THIS PARK USING SHARED PARKING LADIES, ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND POSSIBLY SOME KIND OF OVERSIGHT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OVER THE LAND, UH,
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IN ORDER TO MANAGE IT.UH, I THINK THE COUNTY WAS CONTENDING ON PURCHASING IT AND PUTTING IT IN A GREEN SPACE TRUST OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, MY OFF ON THAT EGO.
NO, I THINK IT'S ALL INTENDED TO BE PASSIVE ACTIVITIES.
SO IT WOULD BE A PASSIVE PARK.
HOWEVER, POTENTIALLY IT COULD BE THE KIND OF PLACE WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE A FARMER'S MARKET THERE IF THERE WERE PARKING AVAILABLE.
I THINK IT WOULD JUST DEPEND ON HOW THAT SHARED USE WOULD BE.
BUT I THINK THEIR END GOAL WAS THAT THE DISTRICT WOULD END UP BEING THE CARETAKERS OF SAID GREEN SPACE.
IF IT GOES THROUGH GREEN SPACE PROGRAM.
SO IF THEY MAKE THAT PURCHASE, THEY WOULD THEN GIFT IT TO US.
AM I CORRECT IN THAT MR. JAMES? YES, MA'AM.
THAT, THAT WAS WHAT I GATHERED OUT OF THE MEETING FROM LAST WEEK, WAS THAT THEY HAVE THE AVAILABLE FUNDS TO MAKE THE PURCHASE.
UH, HOWEVER THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE, THE END USER, WHICH IN THIS CASE WOULD, WOULD POTENTIALLY BE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY OR, UM, YEAH, ESSENTIALLY MAINTAIN IT, I BELIEVE IS IS, IS WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A, THERE, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S NOT A DETAILED PLANNED RIGHT NOW CORRECT.
AS WHETHER OR NOT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS INTERESTED IN THIS CONVERSATION, BASICALLY.
THAT THEY'RE STILL IN SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
I MEAN, WE DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED THAT PROPERTY, BUT, YOU KNOW.
SO AM I TO UNDERSTAND SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO BUY IT AND GIFT IT TO US, SO THEREFORE WE WOULD OWN THE PROPERTY.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP SIDE.
PROBABLY THE COUNTY WOULD, WELL, THEY'D EITHER OWN IT OR WE'D GO INTO AN MOU WHERE, UH, THE COUNTY OWNED IT AND BE, HAD USE OF IT AND WOULD MAINTAIN IT, AND MAYBE SOME SHARED PARKING.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PLANNED BEING MOU OR US
SO ANY SHARED PARKING WOULD BE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN EXISTING ON OUR SITE.
IF SOMEBODY, IF WE WANTED TO ALLOW SOMETHING TO HAPPEN THERE ON THAT PASSIVE USE OF, SO, I MEAN, SOMEBODY'S NOT GOING TO BUILD A PARK THERE.
THEY'RE JUST GONNA BUY IT AND TELL US THAT WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT WITH IT.
WELL, I HEARD TALK ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS LIKE AN AMPHITHEATER OR LIKE AT A, A LAW YEAH.
A SHELF LIKE CONCERTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO BUILD.
NO, AS FAR AS I, OUR PORTION WAS TO MAINTAIN IT, PROVIDE PARKING.
I, I, I THINK, I THINK EVERYTHING IS ON, ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION.
AND REALLY THAT WAS THE LEVEL OF INTEREST FROM THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE WAS JUST TO SAY, LOOK, IF, IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO PURSUE FURTHER AND ENGAGE THE LEVEL OF INTEREST FROM THE DISTRICT, I THINK IT ALSO OPENS UP, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ADJACENT LAND TO THE EAST OF COUGAR DRIVE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING COUGAR DRIVE IS GONNA BE CLOSED OFF AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, UH, WILL BE, WILL BE ABANDONED THROUGHOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT OF LADIES ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL.
UM, SO THE LAND BETWEEN THESE TWO PARCELS, COUGAR DRIVE UP TO THE MARSH, UM, THEY DISCUSS MAYBE SOME SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LAND THAT THE DISTRICT CURRENTLY OWNS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S, UH, DONATED OR SOMETHING TO CREATIVE, EVEN LARGER PASSIVE PARK HERE OR SOMETHING THAT EVEN EVEN GOES TO THE MARSH THERE.
SO COULD POTENTIALLY BE A REALLY, REALLY NICE PASSIVE PARK AND, AND, UM, COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS FROM, FROM MULTIPLE DIFFERENT, UH, RESOURCES.
SO, I, I, UH, OTHER THAN BEING LIABLE TO, UH, TO MAINTAIN, I'M, I'M SORRY.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YES, I DO.
UH, FOR, FOR, UM, FIRST, AND UH, AND FOREMOST WHEN I HEAR ABOUT YOU TALKING ABOUT CLOSING, UH, COUGAR DRIVE, ACTUALLY, THAT'S SOMETHING I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE, THAT WE PUT ON THE AGENDA WHEN WE MEET WITH COUNTY COUNCIL, BECAUSE, UH, I KNOW, UH, I SPOKE PUBLICLY ABOUT THAT.
AND SO THE CHAIR, UH, THE BOARD SPOKE PUBLICLY THAT WE DOESN'T, WE DON'T WANT COUGAR DRIVE CLOSED BECAUSE WE, UH, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, IT IS ALWAYS BEEN COMMUNICATED.
IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO HAVE 2, 2, 2 INTERESTED, INTERESTED THAN ONE.
SO CLOSING COUGAR DRIVE WILL BE CLOSING, CLOSING AN INTEREST THAT WE'VE HAD FOR YEARS.
AND IF IT'S UNTIL LAST TIME MY CHECK AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT, THAT THE COUNTY HAD OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR PERMISSION TO COME AND DECIDE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO JUST GO AHEAD AND CLOSE AND CLOSE OUR DRIVE.
AND WE HAVE TO HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
SO, I, I, I, I, I'M, I'M A LITTLE, UH, UH, UNCOMFORTABLE WITH EVEN MENTIONING THE CLOSE OF THAT DRIVE THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRST COMING OUTTA THE GATES.
SECONDLY, UH, IF THEY, IF THEY WANT TO DONATE THE LAND THAT I, THAT I, I LISTEN TO THEM DONATE LAND TO, UM, ON LAST NIGHT TO, UH, BEFORE HOSPITAL, SO THEY WANNA DONATE THE LAND TO US AND MAYBE HAVE US PUT SOMETHING ON IT OR HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, IS, IS, IS ONE THING.
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UM, I I, I, I THINK HAVING A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT MAY TAKE PLACE, WHO, WHERE, WHAT, WHEN, WHY, AND HOW IS MORE IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW BEFORE WE GET ANY HOPES UP AND HOW WE, HOW WE DISCUSS, UH, WHAT, WHERE WE WANNA GO.BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE, LIKE THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BACK, A BACKDOOR CONVERSATION.
UH, I'M NOT ONE IN, I'M NOT ONE FOR THAT, UH, AT THIS JUNCTION IN, IN TERMS OF WHAT COULD POSSIBLY TAKE PLACE OR WHAT WHOEVER WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, IF, IF THEY'RE GONNA BRING IT FORWARD, THEN BRING, BRING US THE OPTIONS AND TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE IT TO US, WHAT IT COULD BE USED FOR, WHAT, WHAT COULD BE USED FOR, WHAT IT COULD NOT BE USED FOR, IS EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
UH, AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE WHO'S, WHO'S WHAT, WHERE, WHAT, WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN, WHY NOW IS, IS, IS WHERE MY MIND IS AT RIGHT NOW.
ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, IT, I MEAN, IF, IF THE, THE LAND IS GOING TO BE GIFTED TO US, FOR US TO MAINTAIN, THAT SEEMS MORE LIKE A LIABILITY THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
'CAUSE THEN ALL WE'RE DOING IS PAYING TO MAINTAIN A PROPERTY, UH, THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO BEGIN WITH.
I, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE BOARD HAS ANY APPETITE TO MAINTAIN, UH, OR TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OF A PROPERTY THAT ISN'T OURS.
UH, AND, UH, HONESTLY, I I, I THINK I AGREE, UH, WITH, UH, MY COLLEAGUE IN THAT I WOULD RATHER HAVE, UH, COAS TO, UH, TO DECIDE OPA RATHER THAN JUST WASTE TIME IN A MEETING.
HE'S LIKE, IS ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TESTING THE WATER.
I WOULD, I WOULD RATHER HAVE SOMETHING, WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE PLAN TO DO WITH THE LAND, OR YOU GUYS AGREEABLE TO, UM, ONE, TWO OR THREE OPTIONS AND THEN, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
BUT JUST SAYING, UH, LET'S TEST THE WATERS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
I I, I DON'T SEE ANY APPETITE FOR THAT MYSELF IF NOBODY HAS ANY, UH, OTHER COMMENTS.
SO WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT THE COUNTY WOULD BE PRESENTING THIS, BUT I GUESS THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE WENT THIS OTHER ROUTE, KIND OF THE LAST MINUTE.
I THINK THEY WANTED THE BUY-IN FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT WE WOULD AT LEAST BE INTERESTED IN HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS.
SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, YEAH, SURE.
MR. JAMES SAID THE COUNTY COULDN'T COME BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE DIRECTIVE TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO, MR. JAMES, AS THE REAL ESTATE RIGHT, CAME FORWARD TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
I, I, I DON'T SEE A, A BENEFIT TO THE PROPERTY.
UH, WE WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING OUT OF IT OTHER THAN HAVING TO MAINTAIN IT.
SO WE'RE SPENDING MONEY IN ORDER TO, TO WHAT? I MEAN, WE GOT A SCHOOL RIGHT NEXT DOOR, SO WE DON'T NEED A PARK.
I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN PLAYGROUND.
SO WHAT, WHAT DO WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL PARK RIGHT NEXT TO A SCHOOL, FOR MY OPINION.
WELL, AND, AND I THINK A LOT OF THE, UH, THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEES, UM, YOU KNOW, DIRECTION HERE IS, IS TO PREVENT ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE Y'ALL, UH, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE RECENT INQUIRIES FOR THESE PARTS, STORAGE AND APARTMENTS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROHIBIT FOR THE, UM, I THINK THE GREEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN, IN, IN PURCHASING THIS.
SO, UH, I THINK EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE.
AND, AND I THINK WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS JUST, UH, THE, THE, THE OPEN DOOR FOR A CONVERSATION TO, TO HOPEFULLY TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING WORK COLLABORATIVELY AND PRE HIT PREVENT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS PROPERTY COULD EVENTUALLY BECOME, WHICH IS HE'S GONE.
'CAUSE I WAS GONNA SAY THAT THE DOOR'S ALWAYS OPEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ALWAYS WILLING TO TALK AND DISCUSS AND WE'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
UM, BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S ANY BENEFIT TO US ASSUMING RESPONSIBILITY OF A PROPERTY THAT WE DIDN'T SEEK NOR OR ASKING FOR.
ANYBODY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MAY I? YES, YES, PLEASE.
UH, THE GREEN SPACE, THEY BUY PROPERTY ALL OVER AND THEY BASICALLY TAKE IT OFF THE MARKET FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THEY CAN DO THAT WITHOUT US HAVING TO HAVE THE LIABILITY OF MAINTAINING.
SO IF THEY DON'T WANT DEVELOPMENT THERE, THEY HAVE THAT BUILDING BY PURCHASING AND YEAH, OF COURSE.
I'VE TALKED TO, UH, DAVID BARIO, WHO'S, UH, THE COUNTY COUNCIL ABOUT DISTRICT ABOUT THIS.
AND, UH, IT WAS NEVER MENTIONED TO ME THAT THE DISTRICT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING IT.
UH, THAT, THAT'S A STICKING POINT.
UH, THAT'S, THAT HAS TO BE IRONED OUT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, IN FACT, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT NOT TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT IN THERE.
AND GREEN SPACE IS ALWAYS NICE, BUT
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I DON'T WANT, I AGREE WITH YOU.I DON'T WANNA GAIN MORE LIABILITY, UH, FOR MAINTAINING AN ACCIDENT, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, THE COUGAR DRIVE ISSUE, I THINK IS, IS ALSO, I THINK MR. SMITH HAS GOT A GOOD POINT.
I THINK COUGAR DRIVE HAS SOME VALUE AS A RIGHT TURN ONLY INTO IT, WHERE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT UP, UP THE OTHER END, THE, THE LEFT TURN COMING FROM, UH, THE, OF THE NORTH THERE.
UH, AGAIN, HAVING TWO, ALSO TWO AREA WAYS TO GET IN AND OUT IS GONNA INGRESS, EGRESS POSITIVELY IMPACT THE TRAFFIC AT THAT.
UH, THAT, SO A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSION, AND WE JUST HAVE TO BE LIKE, YOU, YOU MENTIONED IT, STAY OPEN.
LET'S, LET'S TALK AND IF WE FIND SOMETHING THAT WE, EVERYBODY CAN, UH, AGREE ON.
SO IT SOUNDS, THE ONE THING IS, IS THE MESSAGE TO THE COUNTY THEN THAT, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MORE DEVELOPED PLAN? IS THAT
YEAH, I MEAN, IF THEY'RE GONNA GIFT IT TO US, THEN SURE, WE'LL TAKE IT.
BUT IF, I MEAN, IF THEY'RE GONNA MAINTAIN OWNERSHIP OF IT, BUT HOLD US LIABLE TO MOW THE GRASS.
I, THAT, THAT SEEMS, SEEMS A LITTLE, LITTLE TOO FAR OUT THERE FOR ME, FOR ME.
AND, UH, DID WE GET HIM BACK? HE'S BACK.
SO, SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, THE, THE, THE TABLE IS, I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S ON THE TABLE AND WE'RE ALWAYS, THE DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
UH, JUST RIGHT NOW THERE DOESN'T SEEM ANYTHING, UH, ELSE TO TALK ABOUT.
WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE ON, UH, ANY MORE LIABILITY.
UH, BUT, UH, I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU COME BACK TO US WITH A COUPLE PLANS AND SOMETHING THAT, UH, BENEFITS THE SCHOOL, UH, IF YOU WANT US TO MOW THE GRASS, WE GOTTA AT LEAST GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC? NO, SIR.
WELL, ALSO, ALSO, SIR, UM, I THINK, THINK THAT, UH, I, I THINK THAT ALSO THAT WHEN IT, WHEN IT COME BACK, COME BACK TO US, IT SHOULD ALSO OUTLINE WHAT, WHAT THE DOS AND DON'TS AND WHAT WILL, WHAT WOULD BE THE, UH, WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THIS LAND.
WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S WILLING, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY, BASICALLY WHO, WHERE, WHEN, WHAT AND WHY, WHAT WE CAN DO WITH IT, WHAT WE CAN'T DO IT.
I THINK THAT'S THE STARTING POINT TO UNDERSTANDING WHETHER IT WILL BE, UM, AN ASSET FORCE OR A LIABILITY.
I THINK THAT'S THE BEGINNING POINT, TO BE HONEST.
UM, MY FINAL COMMENTS ON THIS IS, OH, OKAY.
UM, MY FINAL COMMENTS ON THIS IS LIKE, WHEN IT WAS POSTED ON THE AGENDA, THERE'S NO BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
UM, SO IF WE COULD JUST SAY, HEY, THIS IS THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
UM, I MEAN, I COULD AT LEAST DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH ON MY OWN, BUT I JUST SAW A PICTURE WITH A BUNCH OF COVERED LINES ON IT.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE HAVING IT ON THE AGENDA FOR.
SO, BUT, UH, ANYTHING ELSE? AWESOME.
UH, I'LL JUST SAY YOU CLOSING UP.
NO, I WAS GONNA SAY, YEAH, I, I, I, I WAS UNAWARE THIS WAS THE, WAS ON THE AGENDA AS WELL.
UH, AND, AND, AND COULD HAVE SAID MORE INFORMATION.
UH, I, I THINK JUST OVERALL THE, THE BOARD WAS, I THINK, UH, THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE WAS LOOKING FOR THIS RESPONSE WAS JUST TO AT LEAST CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK TO TRY TO GET MORE INFORMATION IN A MORE DETAILED OUTLINE PLAN TO BRING BACK TO THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
SO ALSO, YOU REMEMBER LAST NIGHT, COUNTY COUNCIL DID SPEAK SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, THEY WERE GONNA SPEAK TO, UH, WE DID HAVE THE MEETING, BUT THEY WERE GONNA SPEAK ABOUT THIS WAS THE SIX ACRES OR NOT, OR, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE SIX ACRES THAT THEY WERE GONNA SPEAK.
SO THEY DID MENTION I WAS COMING HERE.
I DIDN'T REMEMBER COUNTY COUNCIL ME MENTIONING SOMETHING ABOUT WE HAD A JOINT MEETING, WE POSSIBLY HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.
SO I DID, I REMEMBER THEM SAYING THAT LAST.
BUT THEY, THEY DIDN'T GO THAT ABOUT.
MOVING ON TO THE PRI STREET EASTMAN AGREEMENT.
SO WE'VE HAD THIS, UM, CONVERSATION SEVERAL TIMES, AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
WE'RE ALL READY TO FINALIZE THIS.
AND WE HAVE DAN REBECK WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, UH, TO TALK ABOUT IT.
UH, SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I KIND OF NEED TO BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO HIM.
UM, NO, THAT, UH, FOR THE NEW, UH,
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WELL, I'LL LET DAN DESCRIBE DAN, IF YOU COULD DO KIND OF A RECAP OF THIS, WHAT THIS PROJECT IS AS WE HAVE SOME NEW BOARD MEMBERS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF OUR PAST CONVERSATIONS.AND, UH, THANK YOU, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
UH, TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS GOING TO BE PERFORMING, UH, PRICHARD STREET STREETSCAPE PROJECT.
UM, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THAT I'VE BEEN, UM, IN SESSION WITH YOU ALL TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT AND THE SCOPE OF WORK.
UH, SO BASICALLY IT'S A STREETSCAPE PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT, SIDEWALK, STREET LIGHTS, PEDESTRIAN, UM, CONNECTIVITY, AS WELL AS TRAFFIC CALMING ALONG PRITCHARD STREET, WHICH IS, UM, RIGHT ADJACENT TO MC RALEIGH, UM, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UM, AND THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER.
UM, THE FIRST ITEM HERE IS RELATED TO THE PROJECT WORK, IS SOME EASEMENTS THAT ARE, UM, BEING REQUESTED AS PART OF THE PROJECT WORK.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A EASEMENT EXHIBIT.
SO, UM, UM, AS YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN HERE, UM, THAT IS THE, TO THAT BUILDING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT, THAT THAT'S THE POOL BUILDING.
THE GREEN AREA IS THE, THE EXISTING PARKING LOT WITH THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS, UM, THAT SERVES.
CAN I, CAN I JUMP IN HERE REAL QUICK AND DO A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION? SO THIS ACTUALLY STARTED BACK WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFING REQUESTING OUR SUPPORT FOR A GRANT FOR WATER QUALITY AND OUR FOR WATER DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PARKING LOT, UM, BEHIND OUR NEXT THE POOL, ANYTIME IT RAINS, IT BECOMES A POOL OF WATER.
AND, AND SO ON OUR SIDE, WHAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS DOING FOR US AS PART OF THE STREETSCAPE PRO, UH, PROJECT IS DEVELOPING STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS TO GET RID OF THE PONDING WATER THERE.
AND SO, I I JUST WANTED TO INTERJECT THAT IN THERE FOR YOU, DAN PITCHING AND REPAVING THE PARKING LOT TOO AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO OUR PORTION OF THIS, YEAH, THEY'VE DONE THE DESIGN WORK, THE SURVEY WORK, UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT MANAGING THE BNP AND WE'RE LOOKING AT RESPONSIBILITY TO REPAVE THIS PARKING LOT, WHICH IS ON TOP OF FLOODING ALSO FALLING APART.
SO NOW I'LL GIVE IT BACK TO YOU, DAN.
SO, UM, YES, IT IS AN IMPROVEMENT ONTO THE EXISTING CONDITION.
THE, THE PARKING LOT IS IN POOR SHAPE.
UM, PART OF THE PROJECT WORK WALL SHOULD BE, UM, A WATER QUALITY BMP THAT IS BEING PROPOSED, WHICH IS IN THE CENTER, DEMONSTRATED AS AND SHOWN IN THE CENTER OF THE PARKING LOT.
UM, HOWEVER, THIS IS THE EASEMENT EXHIBIT.
UM, UH, I THINK THERE'S FOUR SHEETS WE ASSOCIATED, OR MAYBE THREE WITH REGARDS TO THE SCHOOL PROPERTY.
BUT, UH, THERE'S THREE TYPES OF EASEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ACQUIRED FOR THE PROJECT AND WITH, FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THEY ARE REPRESENTED IN ORANGE AS, UM, UM, PERMANENT STREETSCAPE EASEMENT.
AND THAT'S GENERALLY FOR, UM, THE INSTALLATION OF THE SIDEWALKS, THE CONDUIT FOR STREET LIGHTING, UM, UH, AND OTHER S UH, RELATED TO THAT.
SO THERE'S PERMANENT STREET SCAPE EASEMENTS REPRESENTED IN ORANGE.
UM, UH, THE OTHER TYPES OF EASEMENTS ARE, UM, WHEN THE PARKING LOT IS A BLUE EASEMENT, THAT'S THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, THAT'S A PERMANENT DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
UH, THAT BASICALLY IS SAYING THAT THE, THE, THE EASEMENT IS BEING CONVEYED TO THE TOWN.
SO THE TOWN CAN OWN AND MAINTAIN AND OPERATE THE BMP FACILITY AND THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, THERE'S A, UM, A GREEN EASEMENT AREA THAT'S IDENTIFIED, AND THAT'S A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT THAT WOULD ONLY THEN BE IN PLACE, UH, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD AND THEN WOULD GO AWAY AFTER THAT PERIOD IS IS ENDING.
SO, UM, UM, THIS IS THE EASEMENT EXHIBIT.
PART OF THE ACTUAL, UM, UM, DOCUMENTATION FOR RECORDING THE EASEMENTS THEN IS THE EASEMENT DESCRIPTION AND LANGUAGE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO THERE'LL BE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT DESCRIPTION AS WELL AS A STREETSCAPE EASEMENT DESCRIPTION THAT'S A PERMANENT EASEMENT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO JUST A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT FOR THAT AREA, UH, OR FOR THOSE PARTICULAR IDENTIFIED EASEMENT AREAS.
DO YOU WANNA ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACTUAL EASEMENT OR THE PROJECT ITSELF? WE WILL BE INTERNAL COST TO DISTRICT.
TIFFANY, THAT'S GONNA BE THE NEXT
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PART.SO I THINK DAN'S GONNA TALK ON THE, SO IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? WHAT ARE THE TOTAL COSTS TO THE DISTRICT? AND THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE NEXT SECTION, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL, UH, AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COST SHARE AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND EXAM.
MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES.
I CAN'T FIND HOW TO RAISE MY HAND.
SO I HATE TO BE RUDE, BUT I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UM, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHO OWNS THAT PARKING LOT? 'CAUSE THAT'S THE POOL PARKING LOT.
IS IT OUR PARKING LOT OR DOES IT BELONG TO THE COUNTY? IT BELONGS TO US.
WE ACTUALLY, WE OWN THE POOL PROPERTY.
WE ACTUALLY LEASE IT TO THE COUNTY.
YEAH, I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING.
ALL RIGHT, DAN, YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR ON THE COST SHARE AGREEMENT.
SO, UM, THE NEXT ITEM, UH, UH, FOR, UH, DISCUSSION IS, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, COST SHARE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE SCHOOL PARKING LOT.
UM, SO BASICALLY, UM, AS WAS REPRESENTED ON THE EASEMENT, UM, EXHIBIT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PARKING LOT, THE PARKING LOT'S GOING TO BE RECONFIGURED AND BASICALLY GOING TO BE ONE, ONE LANE IN AND ONE LAYOUT GOING TO HAVE IT, IT'S GOING TO BE STRIPED, UM, FOR PARKING SPACES, PARKING BALLARDS, AND SO FORTH AND SO FORTH.
SO THE CAR SHARE AGREEMENT BASICALLY, UM, TALKS ABOUT, UM, THE, THE, THE PROJECT WORK RELATED TO THE, UM, PARKING LOT AND ONLY RELATED TO THE PAVING ELEMENTS OF THE PARKING LOT, UM, BEING, UH, RECOUPED OR REIMBURSED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO THE TOWN.
SO THE TOWN'S GOING TO PUBLICLY BUILD, BUILD THE, THE, THE TOWN IS GOING TO PUBLICLY BID THE PROJECT.
UH, WE'LL EVALUATE THE BIDS AWARD TO THE, UH, LOWEST RESPONSIVE, RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BUBU BUILDER.
AT THAT TIME, WE'LL HAVE, UM, THE BID SHEETS BROKEN OUT FOR INDEPENDENTLY OF THE PARKING LOT COSTS, SO WE'LL KNOW WHAT COSTS ARE RELATED TO, UM, PAVING REPAVING OF THE PARKING LOT.
AND THAT, AND THAT WORK WILL INCLUDE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING PAVED AREA, PROOF ROLLING, UM, THE EXISTING SUBGRADE OF THE, UH, PARKING LOT.
UH, THERE MAY BE SOME SOFT AREAS THAT REQUIRE UNDERCUT AND SO FORTH.
WE BUILT SOME CONTINGENCY IN THERE FOR THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS. UM, AND THEN REPAVING OF THE PARKING LOT, STRIPING THE PARKING LOT, SOME, SOME SIGNAGE IN THE PARKING LOT, THE PARKING BALLARDS, UH, OR WHEEL STOPS I SHOULD SAY, THAT SHOULD, SHOULD SAY.
AND RIGHT NOW, THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THE ELEMENTS RELATED TO THE PARKING COMPONENTS, PARKING LOT COMPONENTS, UM, FOR THE PARKING LOT, UM, THE IS ESTIMATED AT $318,867.
NOW, THAT'S AN ESTIMATED COST, UH, BASED ON THE ENGINEER'S, ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE THAT WILL BE FURTHER REFINED, UH, ONCE THE BIDS COME IN.
AND THEN BASICALLY THE, THE, THE TOWN WILL, UH, PAY THE CONTRACTOR FOR HIS WORK.
AND ONCE THAT PAYMENT IS MADE, I'LL WORK WITH ROBERT AND HIS PROJECT MANAGER WITH REGARDS TO THE REIMBURSEMENT AMOUNT, UH, THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARKING LOT THAT'S, UH, ALSO RELATED TO THIS AGREEMENT.
AND, UM, REIMBURSEMENT TO THE TOWN WOULD THEN TAKE PLACE.
ANY QUESTIONS? DAVID HAS A QUESTION.
IS, IS THIS, SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY, IS THIS A JOINT PROJECT? NO, THIS IS, THIS IS ONLY RELATED TO THE COST RELATED TO REDOING THE, THE PAVING OF THE PARKING.
SO, UH, HE KINDA ASKED PART OF MY QUESTION.
SO WITH, WITH, WITH, WITH THAT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, BASICALLY YOU WERE THE IN-BETWEEN PORTION BETWEEN THE PARK, THE PARKING LOT AND THE, AND, AND, AND, AND THE, UM, BASICALLY THE PARKING LOT BEING BUILT IN THE DISTRICT, IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? SO IF I CAN, THEY'VE DESIGNED THE PROJECT, UH, THEY, UH, UH, ARE GONNA DO ALL THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROJECT, INCLUDING THE DRAINAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE'RE JUST PAYING FOR THE PARKING LOT PORTION OF THAT.
THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON WILL ACTUALLY PAY FOR THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON WILL MAINTAIN THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
WE WILL PAY FOR OUR PARKING LOT, AND WE WILL
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MAINTAIN THE PARKING LOT.UM, IN THE THIRD PARAGRAPH OF THE AGREEMENT, IT SAYS, UH, THAT THE PARTIES SHALL SHARE EQUALLY IN THE COST OF THE WORK ASSOCIATED WITH PAVING, UH, TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT TO BE LIMITED TO BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND THEN IT SAYS IN THE, THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA, THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA, UH, TO INCLUDE THE 20% CONTINGENCY THAT HE TALKED ABOUT WAS 318,000.
UH, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER UNHIGHLIGHTED AREAS, IT COMES UP, UM, TO 140,000 IN CHANGE.
147,000 I THINK, OR YEAH, 147,000 IN CHANGE.
UM, SO IF WE'RE GONNA SHARE EQUALLY IN THE COST, UM, WHERE'S THE OTHER 160,000? UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE, WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA ON THE EXHIBIT IS THAT TOP, THAT ENTIRE TOP BOX, IT'S NOT JUST ONE PORTION OF THAT.
THERE, THERE ARE TWO UNHIGHLIGHTED AREAS JUST BELOW THE HIGHLIGHTED BOX.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THE COST INCURRED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON? OH, WELL, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WORK THAT'S UNRELATED TO THE PARKING LOT.
SO IF THE PARKING LOT'S GOING TO, SO IF THE PARKING LOT'S GONNA BE 318,000, AND UH, THE AGREEMENT SAYS THAT WE WILL SHARE EQUALLY, UM, IT ALSO SAYS THAT, UH, WE WILL REIMBURSE YOU TO 100% FOR THE COST OF THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA.
SO WHICH ONE IS IT? ARE WE SHARING EQUALLY OR ARE WE, AND FOR THE PARKING LOT? NO, THE, THE THIRD WHERE THE, THE THIRD, WHERE AS, UM, UM, CLAUSE, UM, THE, THE THIRD P THE THIRD, WHEREAS PARAGRAPH IS INCORRECT IN THAT IT SAYS THAT THAT COST IS SHARED.
THE COST SHARE, UH, ITEM BELOW THAT'S, UH, UH, IDENTIFIED AS NUMBER THREE, UM, IS WHERE IT SAYS THIS AGREEMENT WILL BE, I'M SORRY, THE TOWN, UM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL REIMBURSE THE TOWN FOR 100% OF THE COST OF THE HIGHLIGHTED ITEMS. UH, THAT IS THE CORRECT PART.
THE, UH, UM, THE, THE, THAT, THAT, THAT IS INCORRECT AT THE, IN THE, IN THE THIRD.
WHEREAS WHERE WE'RE ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GETTING REIMBURSED, THE TOWN WOULD BE REIMBURSED FOR THE COST THAT'S RELATED TO REDOING AND REPAVING THE PARKING LOT.
AND THAT WILL BE A 100% REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT COST.
NO OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECT WORK, UH, OR ANY OTHER OF THOSE COSTS WILL BE REIMBURSED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
IT HAS, IT IS JUST RELATED TO THE PARKING LOT.
SO THAT IS AN ERROR AND THAT WILL NEED TO BE REVISED.
WAS ANYBODY ELSE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE'RE GONNA BE SHARING THE COST? THAT'S WHY I ASKED.
THE TOTAL COST ADD A HUNDRED PERCENT WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT, $318,000 PARKING.
NOW WITH THE REC, THE A HUNDRED PERCENT AND $318,000 IS JUST THE ASPHALT PORTION, WHICH WE OWN.
IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S THE DEMO.
IT'S THE, UM, UH, SUBGRADE, IT'S THE AGGREGATE, IT'S THE A, UH, ACTUAL ASPHALT, THE ONE-WAY, UH, STATUS, EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH PARKING.
SO IT IS LIKE THE, UM, EROSION CONTROL AND ALL THAT KINDA STUFF.
WE EVENTUALLY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ALSO.
NO, THAT'S ON NOT PART OF THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA.
YEAH, THAT'S THE PORTION THEY'RE PAYING FOR.
WE'RE, AND IF YOU GO TO THIS EXHIBIT A YEP.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR EVERYTHING BELOW.
SO, BUT WHAT, UH, OKAY, SO WE HAVE FIGURED OUT THAT THE, UH, THE, THE INITIAL AGREEMENT IS INCORRECT BECAUSE IT'S SAYING THAT WE WERE, WE SHE DOES SAY THAT, YEAH.
IN THE THIRD WHERE AS PARAGRAPH ABOVE.
ABOVE, ABOVE NUMBERED PARAGRAPH ONE AND THE THIRD.
WHEREAS AS IT SAYS THAT WE WILL EQUALLY SHARE IN THE COST, RIGHT.
SO, UM, HAVE WE BEEN UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THIS WHOLE TIME THAT WE WERE GOING TO EQUALLY SHARE IN THE COST? NO.
NO, THE ASSUMPTION WAS WE WERE PAYING FOR THE PARKING LOT PORTION.
THEY WERE PAYING FOR THE DRAINAGE.
THEY'VE PAID FOR ALL THE SURVEY, ALL THE DESIGN, EVERYTHING TO THIS POINT.
SO THAT'S HOW, 'CAUSE THE PARKING LOT IS OURS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE PAYING FOR.
SO THE PARKING LOT NEXT TO TOWN HALL, RIGHT.
ALL THE WAY OVER NEXT TO THE POOL.
SO OUR TEACHERS USE THAT PARKING LOT OKAY.
SO IT IS USED AS A POOL PARKING LOT AND AS A TEACHER PARKING AREA AND TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND YEAH, I GUESS AT NIGHT.
BUT YOU'VE GOT THAT GRAVEL PARKING LOT IN BETWEEN WHERE THAT ASPHALT PARKING LOT FLOODS DOWN THERE.
LOOKS, HAS THE 318,000 ALREADY BEEN EARMARKED? YES.
I WAS GONNA SAY IS THE F WHAT, SO RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE, WE HAVE A BROKEN ATTITUDE CASES.
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ONE HAS 275,000 BUDGET.PHASE TWO IS WHAT'S BEING WORKED OUT WITH NICK RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU HAVE 275,000 APPROVED RIGHT NOW IN FY 26.
AND THE ADDITIONAL MONEY WOULD BE IN FY 27, WHICH WILL COME FORWARD IN APRIL, MAY.
WE'RE WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW.
WHAT ACTION DO WE NEED? UH, UH, I MEAN, OTHER THAN HAVING THEM COME BACK WITH THE CORRECTED AGREEMENT? WELL, WELL, WHAT DO, DO YOU NEED AN ACTION NOW AT THIS POINT, DAN? OR DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH WITH THE CORRECTIVE AGREEMENT? UM, I DO NOT FORESEE THAT THE COST WILL BE CHANGED.
UM, I THINK THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT IT, THAT IT'S BASICALLY WE'RE REIMBURSING FOR THE COST THAT'S RELATED TO REDOING THE PARKING LOT.
THAT ESTIMATED COST IS 318,000.
IF WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT MOTION AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, UM, CURRENT AGREEMENT WILL BE MODIFIED, THAT THIRD, WHEREAS CLAUSE WILL BE MODIFIED TO, UM, STATE THAT CORRECTLY, THAT IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT OF THE COST FOR THE TOTAL COST OF THE REDOING THE PARKING LOT, THEN IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE, WE COULD DO THAT.
IF AND IF I NEED TO COME BACK, I WILL DO THAT.
I WOULD PREFER THAT YOU COME BACK WITH THE CORRECTED AGREEMENT.
AND, AND, AND ALSO, UH, BEFORE HE COMES BACK ALSO, WE HAVE OUR LEGAL TEAM LOOK, LOOK AT IT AND, UH, AND, AND PIN IT DOWN BEFORE AND BEFORE THEY EVEN, BEFORE OUR EYES EVEN, UH, DO IT.
I'LL DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT.
SO THAT WE COULD, UH, FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT OUR LEGAL TEAM HAS LOOKED AT IT, HAS, HAS AGREED, HAS AGREED TO IT.
AND, UM, THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY'D BE ABLE TO GIVE US ANY, UM, ANY, ANY, UH, LEGAL, UH, ADVICE THAT WE MAY AT THAT TIME AS WELL.
RIGHT? DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? NO, MY CAT UN UNMUTED ME.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? ALRIGHT, UH, THANK YOU SIR.
AND NOW WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING THEN.
UH, WATERCRESS DEPARTMENT EASEMENT, STEVE ANDREWS AND MR. CHRIS BATES STILL BE I'LL LET Y'ALL COME FORWARD.
YOU WANNA COME TO THE TABLE AND THAT, THAT'S GOOD.
I'M STEVE ANDREWS COWORKER AND THE PROJECT ENGINEER CHRIS BATES FOR WATERCRESS DEPARTMENTS.
WE'RE BOTH WITH DAVIS EMPLOYED THE ENGINEERS FOR THE PROJECT.
NOW, NOW I WILL SAY, UH, THIS HAS COME TO Y'ALL BEFORE, UH, IT, IT'S ALMOST BEEN TWO YEARS OR, YEAH, TWO YEARS AGO TO SEE PROPERLY.
UM, SO THEY'VE COMING BACK NOW.
UM, SO I'LL LET Y'ALL TAKE IT FROM THERE.
SO IS ROBERT HAD STATED, WE'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES TO TALK TO THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE SO THAT IN, IN THE CENTER OF THE DRAWING THE AREA, I KNOW IT DOESN'T TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE, BUT I'M OLD FASHIONED.
SO, SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
THE, THE WALMART AND THEN THE SCHOOL SITE, THE FORMERLY ROBERT SMALLS, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
AND, AND THEN THIS IS WK AUSTIN, THE SCHOOL THAT, THE ROAD THAT THE SCHOOL TAKES ON, WOULD IT BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO GO DOWN TO THE NEXT SLIDE THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE APARTMENT? YEAH.
SO A AGAIN, UH, 21 WK AUSTIN, THE SCHOOL PROPERTY WK AUSTIN DETS STATE ROAD, IT'S SANDWICHED WITH SCHOOL PROPERTY.
THE, THE DESIRE FROM THE DEVELOPER OF THE COUNTY, THE CITY OF BEAUFORT IS THE AMBROSE RUN THE EAST WEST ROAD THAT WE'RE SHOWING CONNECTS FROM 21 CWK AUSTIN.
THIS IS THE APARTMENT COMPLEX OR A RENDERING OF A 534 UNITS.
WE HAVE COMPLETED A TRAFFIC STUDY AND IT HAS ONE OF TWO OPTIONS.
EITHER A ACCESS CAN COME INTO THE APARTMENTS FROM WK AUSTIN AND TURN RIGHT INTO IT, OR, OR LEFT INTO IT, DEPENDING IF THEY'RE COMING FROM THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH.
BROAD RIVER ONE 70, WHEN THERE WAS SOME RESISTANCE FROM THE SCHOOL THAT WE WENT BACK TO, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND THE TRAFFIC COULD COME TO
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BROAD RIVER, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON WK AUSTIN, THE TRAFFIC WOULD COME DOWN WK AUSTIN.THE, THE SHORT OF THAT IS THE TRAFFIC FOR THE APARTMENTS THAT'S GONNA COME DOWN WK AUSTIN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
SO AS WE HAVE COME BEFORE THE SCHOOL AND, AND TALKED TO SOME OF THE MEMBERS, THERE WAS A DESIRE THAT WE REFINE THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND LOOK AT WK AUSTIN WITH ATTENTION TO THE SCHOOL GENERATED TRAFFIC AND THAT WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS WERE, WERE IDENTIFIED IN THAT TRAFFIC STUDY, THE DEVELOPER IN RETURN FOR GRANTING THE EASEMENT ACROSS THE SCHOOL PROPERTY, WOULD THEN MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO WK AUSTIN.
WHATEVER TURN LANES WOULD BE NECESSARY TO MITIGATE THE CONFLICT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, BETWEEN THE APARTMENT TRAFFIC AND THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK HERE AGAIN.
A SIDEBAR SEWER, OR THE LACK THEREOF HAS BEEN A HOLD UP FOR THIS PROJECT.
ALL THAT'S BEEN WORKED OUT WITH THE WATER AUTHORITY AND THERE'S A PLAN IN PLACE TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO NOW THE, THE PROJECT CAN BE DEVELOPED.
SO WE'RE BACK HERE TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL.
THE ASK FROM THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, THE SCHOOL BOARD TODAY, IS THAT WE COULD ENTER SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SCHOOL WOULD ENTERTAIN THE CONNECTIVITY.
IF YOU SAID YES, THEN WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND COMMISSION TO DO THAT REFINED TRAFFIC STUDY.
ONCE WE HAVE THAT DEVELOPED PLANS, THE, THIS ESTATE ROAD, SO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WOULD LAY IN ON IT, ONCE WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT COULD BE WARRANTED AND PERMITTED BY THE STATE, WE WOULD THEN COME BACK AND ASK FOR THE ACTUAL CONNECTION AND BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE TO YOU WHAT BENEFITS WOULD COME TO THE SCHOOL BY WAY OF IMPROVEMENTS TO WK AUSTIN.
SO THAT WAS A A A LOT OF OF INFORMATION.
SO BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO, MR. SMITH, MY, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UH, IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU CAME MR. MR. JUDGE, THE FIRST TIME WE WERE ASKING FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE SAME THING, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THE SCHOOL BOARD TOLD YOU WHAT? SO WE NEVER MADE IT PAST THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
WE, WE NEVER WENT TO, TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.
UM, THAT'S WHEN WE WERE HAVING CONVERSATIONS, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR THE SCHOOL THAT WOULD MAKE THIS APPLICABLE TO THE SCHOOL? SO IT'S, IT IS JUST BEEN A, A, A RUNNING DIALOGUE PARALLEL IN THAT WAS THE, THE ISSUE I MENTIONED ABOUT SEWER.
SO THERE REALLY WASN'T ANY NEED TO CONTINUE BOTHERING Y'ALL UNTIL WE KNEW THE PROJECT TO GO FORWARD.
WHERE NOW, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WHAT WE DID LEARN IN THE CONVERSATIONS IS THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT SHOWED ONLY MAKING A RIGHT TURN LANE COMING INTO THE APARTMENTS OR MAKING THE LEFT TURN LANES TO COME DOWN FROM BROAD RIVER TO WK TO THE APARTMENTS WASN'T ACCEPTABLE TO THE SCHOOL.
SO THAT'S WHY WE SAID, OKAY, HERE'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TONIGHT, THAT WE'LL DO A STUDY FOR WK AUSTIN TO SEE, LOOKING AT THE SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, MORE REFINING IT TO THE TRAFFIC THAT THE SCHOOL GENERATES AND HOW COULD WE HELP THE SCHOOL MITIGATE THAT TRAFFIC.
SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT'S CHANGED SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE, THAT TAKES TIME AND MONEY.
WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO SPEND THAT TIME AND MONEY UNTIL WE HAD SOME BUY IN FROM THE SCHOOL THAT THAT CONCEPT WOULD BE PALATABLE TO THE SCHOOL.
THAT Y'ALL WOULD ENTERTAIN LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY TO SEE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WE PRESCRIBED FOR WK AUSTIN.
AND IN RETURN, Y'ALL WOULD LET US MAKE THE CONNECTION OF AMBROSE RUN AND PUT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN.
WE, WE JUST WANT A COMFORT LEVEL THAT Y'ALL ARE, ARE AMENABLE TO THAT BEFORE WE COMMISSION THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU MS. GO WRIGHT, MR. GUY.
I WAS ON THE, UH, AS CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, TWO YEARS AGO.
AND WK AUSTIN'S A TOUGH ROPE, GOT A LOT OF BLIND SPOTS AS YOU'RE GOING UP AND BACK FROM THERE.
AND, UH, BASICALLY WE SAID TURN
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LANES AT A MINIMUM, BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES AND ACTUALLY, UH, THREE LANE, FOUR LANE ROAD WOULD BE EVEN MORE, UH, ACCEPTABLE FOR US BECAUSE OF THE SITE ISSUES.IT IT IS, IT'S VERY CLOSE AS YOU GO AROUND THAT CORNER AND SO ON, THERE'S BLIND SPOTS COMING IN AND, UH, IT, IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY DANGEROUS IF YOU COME AND LOOK AT ROBERT SMALLS, UH, IN THE MORNINGS AND THE EVENINGS WHEN THE PARENTS ARE COMING TO PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN, YOU WILL SEE CARS WAITING OUT ON ALSTON.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S A REAL CONCERN.
UM, I THINK IT CAN BE DONE, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE, UH, MIGHT BE EXPENSIVE, UH, TO, TO PUT SUFFICIENT LANES ON THAT ROAD TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THOSE KIND OF CONCERNS.
JUST WANNA CLARIFY, IS THAT, UH, LOOKED THAT UP BEFORE.
SO IS IT IN YOUR INTENTION THAT, THAT BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE APARTMENTS OR IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE FROM BROAD RIVER? UH, BROAD RIVER BOULEVARD? YEAH, THE MAIN ENTRANCE RIGHT NOW IS THE BROAD RIVER BOULEVARD ENTRANCE.
SO YOU'D HAVE SECONDARY, UM, EITHER COMING FROM THE EAST OFF OF 21 OR THE WEST OFF
BUT OF COURSE YOU SEE THAT THE PEOPLE THERE THAT WILL WANT TO GET ON TO ROBERT SMALLS BOULEVARD, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING DOWN WK AUSTIN AND COMING BACK ON ROBERT SMALLS FROM BLUFFTON, SAY THEY'RE GONNA WANNA MAKE A LEFT ONTO WK AUSTIN.
SO EVEN THOUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS ALL THE WAY TO THE BROAD RIVER, THE ONLY OTHER WAY TO GET TO THE BROAD RIVER IS THERE BY, UM, THE, THE STOPLIGHT, YOU KNOW, TO GET, GET YOU ON BROAD RIVER BOULEVARD.
SO YEAH, I BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT, UH, TRAFFIC, DO THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT THE WIRES ACROSS THE ROAD AND GIVE US A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS NOW.
AND THEN GIVE US AN ESTIMATION OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE LATER, CORRECT? OR ARE YOU TRYING TO NOT HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY? NO.
WE, WE HAVE DONE I UP, SORRY,
YEAH, WE, WE HAVE DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND, AND, BUT IT WAS GLOBAL IN NATURE.
AND WHAT IT, WHAT IT SHOWED IS WHAT, WHAT MR. DODGE JUST SAID, THE TRAFFIC'S COMING TO WK AUSTIN, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A GIVEN.
SO PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME TO THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX USING THE ROADS THAT EXIST.
SO IT IS, AND, AND IT ACTUALLY GOES BACK LIKE FOUR YEARS SINCE WE FIRST CAME.
WHAT WHAT'S EVOLVED OVER THIS TIME AND THESE CONVERSATIONS AND GETTING FEEDBACK PRI PRIMARILY FROM Y'ALL'S COMMITTEE AND THEN SOME ROBERT, HIS STAFF SHARED INFORMATION WITH THAT.
THERE WAS AN INTEREST IN THE SCHOOL TO ZERO IN AND LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY ON WK AUSTIN.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING NOW TO DO.
UM, AND SO THAT WILL REQUIRE TRAFFIC COUNTS TO DEVELOP WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, AND THEN THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS PROJECT INTO THE FUTURE AND THEY'LL COME UP WITH A PLAN TO MITIGATE THAT TRAFFIC.
AND YOU'RE GOING, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS PROPOSING TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY FOR REAL.
SO INSTEAD OF DOING LIKE ANOTHER STUDY, WHY NOT JUST SAY WHAT THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE? SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
WE HAVE TO DO THE STUDY, WHICH COSTS MONEY AND IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME.
WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
WE'RE JUST SIMPLY COMING TO YOU TONIGHT TO ASK, IS, IS THAT CONCEPT OF AGREEABLE FOR Y'ALL? WE DON'T WANNA JUST DO THE STUDY IF Y'ALL ARE TO SAY NO WAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA LET YOU COUNT.
OH, WELL, I MEAN, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE'RE ALWAYS AGREEABLE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S, THERE'S A COMPROMISE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, RIGHT? UH, SO SURE WE'RE AGREEABLE, RIGHT? UH, OF COURSE WE'RE AGREEABLE.
UH, I BELIEVE ALSO TWO YEARS AGO WE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, HAVING SOME, IN SOME, UH, LOWER INCOME, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE TEACHERS IN OUR DISTRICT, UH, TO, AT THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX IF WE'RE GONNA LIKE, UH, TIE INTO OUR ROAD THERE.
UM, SO I I, IS THAT STILL ON THE TABLE AS WELL? IF WE'RE LOOKING TO BE AGREEABLE THINGS,
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ONE THING THAT'S HAPPENED IS OWNERSHIP CHANGED AND SO THE, THE NEW PEOPLE HAVEN'T HAD THAT CONVERSATION.WE'RE GATHERING INFORMATION TONIGHT.
WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S STILL ON THE TABLE THEN.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THAT BACK TO HIM.
MS. HAVE, UM, MS. BOATRIGHT, MY APOLOGIES, I FIGURED OUT HOW TO RAISE MY HANDS.
UM, YEAH, SO I WAS A CHAIR OF OPERATIONS WHEN THIS CAME UP BEFORE, EARLIER AS WELL.
AND I THINK THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE'S ALWAYS BEEN AMENABLE.
WE DIDN'T CHOOSE NOT TO TAKE IT TO THE BOARD.
THERE WASN'T, IT WAS, IT WAS A DIALOGUE AS YOU SAID.
THERE WASN'T A SPECIFIC ASK BEING MADE AT THAT TIME.
MY CONCERN WITH THIS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT EVEN BIGGER, IS THIS AREA AROUND ROBERT SMALLS.
UM, VOT HAS HAD MANY, UH, PROPOSED TRAFFIC STUDIES AND ONE OF THEM ACTUALLY HAD A ROAD RUNNING THROUGH OUR BUS PARKING LOT AS I RECALL.
THEY'RE PLANNING A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.
THEY'RE PLANNING A BUNCH OF RETAIL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ROBERT SMALLS.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE CONCERN WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AMBROSE, 'CAUSE YOU CAN SEE WHERE AMBROSE ENDS CURRENTLY IN THE DARK GRAY AND THE WHITE IS KIND OF THE NEW, UM, I MEAN, THAT'S AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF ROADWORK TO ADD IN AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT DOES NOT TIE IN, IN ANY WAY TO THE WALMART AND THE, UM, COMMERCIAL, THAT WAS ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE.
SO AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS, IS THERE ANY GUARANTEES THAT THAT WILL NOT BE USED TO TIE IN THAT PARKING COMPLEX? AND I CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE OUTLET, UM, RIGHT ACROSS FROM APARTMENT COMPLEX 3 25.
IS THAT OFF THE TABLE? SO THE, THE, THE ONE AREA RIGHT ACROSS FROM THAT 3 25 IS RIGHT NOW A PEDESTRIAN PATH, NOT A VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
COULD IT BECOME THAT AS YOU BUILD THIS AMBROSE EXTENSION TO WK ALSTON, COULD IT BECOME A VE UH, VEHICLE OUTLET? SO LET ME ANSWER THAT BY THE, THE WALMART AND THE, WHAT, WHAT'S NOW THE PROPOSED APARTMENTS AND THE EXISTING CROSS CREEK ALL CAME OUT OF ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND WHEN IT WAS SUBDIVIDED, THEY, THE, THE COVENANTS HAVE INTERCONNECTIVITY AGREEMENTS.
SO IT'S, IT, IT IS NOT PLANNED.
IT'S NOT PART OF THE CURRENT DESIGN, BUT THAT LANGUAGE EXISTS IN THOSE COVENANTS SO THAT IT CAN BE ALLOWED.
I JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC PRESSURE THERE WITH ONE 70 AND BROAD RIVER.
AND IF YOU START PUTTING THE COMMERCIAL LOTS INTO THERE, WE WANNA KEEP THE WK AL AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE FOR THE STUDENTS, UM, AND NOT HAVE IT BE A CUT THROUGH, WHICH IS WHAT MY CONCERN IS.
BUT LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK THE BOARD'S AMENABLE.
WE HAVEN'T EVER SAID NO, WE DON'T WANT IT.
BUT I KNOW IT MAKES ME JUST A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AN INTERCONNECTIVITY AGREEMENT THAT WOULD HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, UM, DUMPING OUT BACK, AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT ON THIS MAP, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, UM, ROBERT SMALLS THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
SO I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE SEEING THE WHOLE PICTURE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEP.
UM, I CONCUR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVEN'T TOOK INTO PLACE, UH, IS THAT RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE BRIDGES WHO'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND THEY ARE, THEY HAVE TRAFFIC JUST, JUST, JUST AS, AS, AS WELL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
BUILT, BUILT UP ON, ON, ON THIS, ON THIS, UH, ON, ON ON, ON THE SAME, ON THE SAME, ON THE SAME, UH, ROADWAY.
UM, SO UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE WE'RE GOING OVER, I, I'VE GOTTA SAY THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, TO, TO MY COLLEAGUES IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE LOOKING AT THIS ISSUE IS BECOMING A, IT WAS MORE OF THE, WE SEE ABOUT THIS IN THE BLUFF AREA, BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOW IS THAT WE HEAR IS THAT THE COUNTY THAT, THAT THE COUNTY HAVE GIVEN THESE PERMISSIONS TO THESE NEW, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY INVOLVED US ON THE BACK, ON THE BACK, ON THE BACK END.
AND WE HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE POCKET ON THE FRONT END AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
SO IT HURT, IT HURT, IT HURTS US WHEN THESE REALTORS MAKE THESE DECISIONS TO SELL THESE PROPERTIES TO KIND ALLOW THEM, AND THEY PUT IT IN, IN, IN, IN OUR BACK DOORS, YOU KNOW? SO THIS IS WHY I CAN'T STAND WHEN I SAY THE BACK DOOR DEALS OR,
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OR ALL THE DEALS BECAUSE IT AFFECT US AND IT COULDN'T CAUSE US TO RAISE TAXES AND ASK OUR, ASK OUR TAXPAYERS FOR MONEY TO HELP FIX ISSUES THAT ARE NOT, THAT ARE NOT REALLY SCHOOL BOARD ISSUES.MONEY WE HAVE GOING IN THE CLASSES NOW, NOW WE WE'RE BEING ASKED TO HELP PUT THIS MONEY TOWARDS MAKING, MAKING IT SO THAT EVERYONE CAN, CAN GET IN AND OUT.
I MEAN, LIKE, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO COME TO A COMPROMISE, BUT WHEN IT'S THE BEGINNING TO COST THE TAXPAYERS MONEY AND IT'S, AND THE TAXPAYERS ELECT US, AND IT'S MY, THAT'S MY JOB.
LIKE, LIKE THIS IS A F*****G STUFF OR REAL SERIOUS PROBLEM THAT WE MAY NEED TO TAKE TO THE, TO THE, TO THE TABLE THAT BE THE, IF I SUCK.
BUT I, I, I JUST WANNA, I, I, THIS THING I OUT MORE, MORE THAN GOING TO THE AGENDA, UH, COLONEL WHEN WE DISCUSS THIS.
UM, BUT I JUST DRIVING THROUGH THE DAY DID NOT NOT THINK MUCH.
AND, AND LOOKING AT THE HOW, HOW THAT COMPLEX, HOW THAT, THAT COMPLEX, HOW YOU, YOU, YOU CAN ENTER, YOU CAN EXIT THROUGH THAT ONE SIDE, AND THEN YOU CAN ENTER FURTHER UP THROUGH THAT AT, AT THIS POINT SIDE, IF THEY BUILT IT, AND THEY WOULD'VE PROBABLY PROBLEM WHEN THEY BUILD IT.
I, I FIGURED WE CAN SEE, SEE WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY, THEY, WHAT THEY BRING.
BUT I MEAN, AS THE US TO CONTINUE, UH, PAYING TAXPAYERS TO HELP THEM HELP THEM OUT.
I'D BE EAGER TO SEE WHAT THEY COME UP WITH.
I'M OPEN TO IT, BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO BUST TAXPAYERS CHOP AND SAY, HEY, W WE WE WANNA, WE, WE WANNA JUST BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND SPEND MONEY TO, TO A BIG TEAM PLAYER.
SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU WANNA KNOW THAT, UH, WE'RE READY TO COME TO THE TABLE.
UM, SO PLEASE CONTINUE WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
IS THAT THE NEXT THING? RIGHT? UM, TO CONSIDER ENTERTAINING, UH, BOTH THE RIGHT AND LEFT TURN OFF OF, OFF OF, UH, WHAT IS THAT EMPEROR? WHAT IS THAT?
UM, SO IF, IF WE'RE, I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, RIGHT? SO WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR THAT? UM, OH, WE, I MEAN, WE STILL KNOW THE YEAR OUT OR WHAT? NO, NO, NO.
THEY, THEY'RE LOOKING AT YOUR SCHEDULE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSES ARE RUNNING AT PEAK WHEN WE DO THE TRAFFIC COUNT, SO WE HAVE A REAL THING.
SO, SO THAT'S, BUT YES, IT, IT, IT IS, IT IS GONNA BE A COUPLE MONTHS.
WE'LL BE HERE BEFORE SUMMER, BEFORE BREAK WOULD BE THE RIGHT, OBVIOUSLY WHY WHILE STILL SCHOOL IS STILL IN, SO WE CAN OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THEN MR. OTING AND HIS, UH, HIS GROUP WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
BEFORE, ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE.
SO, UH, ARE YOU OPEN TO PUT TRAFFIC CALMING KIND OF DEVICES ON AMBROSE DRIVE, DRIVE, SLOW TRAFFIC, KIND OF DISCOURAGE USING IT AS A CUT THROUGH? UM, WE WE'RE OPEN, SO LET ME JUST MAYBE DIGRESS FROM WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, UM, AND A COMPLIMENT TO THE BOARD.
LIKE WE, WE'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES.
WE WE'VE HEARD WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY.
I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T COUCH IT.
AS YOU SAID, AS A RANT, Y'ALL ARE JUST DOING WHAT YOU'RE HERE TO DO TO PROTECT THE SCHOOL.
WE'VE LISTENED AND WE'RE, WE'RE COMING BACK AS WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN YOUR INPUT.
OUR, OUR THING HERE IS TO NOT BURDEN YOU.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA FUND THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THEN WE'RE PROPOSING TO FUND THE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO NOT AT THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, IT'S THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THAT IS THEIR RIGHT.
THEY LOOK AT THE STUDY, THEY'LL DETERMINE IF, IF TURN LANES ARE WARRANTED.
OH, SO, AND THEN JUST ONE MORE THING IS TO AMBUSH RUN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY HAVE THIS ON THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, LIKE AS A THRIFT STREET.
SO IT'S, IT IS NOT UP TO US, THE ALONE JUST SAY, WE'LL PUT TRAFFIC COMMON.
THIS DESIGN'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE TOWN OR THE CITY.
EXCUSE ME, THIS IS IN THE CITY.
AND WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEM TO GET THEIR ASK.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WE'LL TAKE YOUR ASK.
BUT THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE A SAY IN THIS.
WE, WE CAN'T, WE'RE NOT THE FINAL SAY IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
BUT CERTAINLY IF THAT'S A REQUEST OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND WE WILL ASK THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT IT IN HIS STUDY AND HOW THAT SHAKES OUT WILL DEFINITELY RAISE THE QUESTION TO THE OTHER AGENCIES.
AND BY THE WAY, I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT, THAT THAT THE STUDY HOLD ON, MR. SMITH.
UH, IS IT, IS THERE, UH, RAISE YOUR HAND WHEN YOU'RE READY.
UH, IS THERE AN OPTION FOR US TO GET TOGETHER WITH THE, THE, THE, THE CITY
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AND LIKE, PUT US ALL IN THE SAME ROOM AND TALK THIS OUT? I, I WOULD LOVE THAT TO HAPPEN.I MEAN, 'CAUSE THIS, THIS BACK AND FORTH IS, IS, IS, UH, IS I'M, I'M SURE GETTING TIRING FOR YOU GUYS.
UH, AND WE'RE, I MEAN, IF WE CAN PUT ALL THE, UH, THE, THE MOVERS AND SHAKERS IN ONE ROOM AND WE CAN NAIL SOMETHING DOWN, UM, WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT EACH OTHER IN THE FACE, I, I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS THE BEST WAY TO DO BUSINESS.
UM, SO MAYBE OFFLINE WE CAN TALK ABOUT, UH, WHERE, HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
IS THAT, LIKE, COULD, COULD OUR OFFICE AND ROBERT WORK THAT OUT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
ARE YOU GAME FOR THAT? SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT THAT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA.
I, I WOULD LOVE THAT TO BE THAT.
UH, AND, AND, AND IN TERMS, ACTUALLY THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WAS DRIVING THE BUS, THE BUS WHEN YOU SAID, WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, THE CITY.
IN TERMS OF PUTTING THE MOVE MOVERS AND SHAKERS IN THE ROOM, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BOARD IS, THE BOARD IS THE DRIVING FORCES TO THIS, UH, TO THIS PROJECT.
BUT, BUT ALSO, UM, WITH, WITH HAVING EVERYONE IN, IN, UH, IN, IN, IN ONE ROOM, UM, I KIND OF FORGOT ABOUT WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS, BUT, UM, UM, I FORGOT WHERE I WAS GOING.
BUT, BUT BASICALLY HOW HAVING US IN HAVING US IN, IN, IN ONE ROOM, ONE ROOM AND, AND UNDERSTANDING THE TOTAL, UH, TOTALITY OF THE, OF THE FOUR, OF THE FOUR, FOUR PROJECT IS, UH, I, I THINK WHAT WE WAS GONNA SAY WAS IMPORTANT.
THE CITY, BECAUSE THE CITY, CITY IS ONCE AGAIN BEHIND THE UH, UH, THEY'RE, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEHIND IT AS WELL.
BUT I, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL LET IT GO BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER.
UH, DO WE HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION? YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ASKING? UH, I DO.
AND JUST FOR TIMING, SO WE DON'T LEAVE HERE AND Y'ALL ASK WHY ISN'T THIS MEETING HAPPENING? I, I DO THINK THE INTEREST OF TIME WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE BEFORE THE SUMMER BREAK.
IF WE'RE GONNA DO THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND I THINK HAVING THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IT WILL GIVE US SOMETHING TO DISCUSS WHEN WE ALL COME TOGETHER.
WE'RE GONNA PROCEED WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY, OR AT LEAST THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE PEOPLE WE REPORT TO OUR OFFICE.
AND, AND ROBERT AND HIS STAFF WILL WORK ON HOW TO GET THE, THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE TOGETHER AND, AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
AND, AND IT'S JUST BEEN A JOURNEY, BUT WE KEEP, EACH TIME WE SHOW UP, WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
OH, AND OH, I SAY, AND ALSO I WAS GONNA SAY ALSO, AND IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR US TO MEET, BUT TO BE FAIR ABOUT IT, THE BURDEN PEOPLE, THE COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY ARE PUTTING, I THINK, I THINK IS, IS IS GRATEFUL THAT Y'ALL GOES WITH THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO IT IS TO GET THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT BECAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES THAT'S GOING ON.
AND TIME I FEEL, I FEEL, I FEEL I'M NOT, I I'M NOT ALWAYS COMFORTABLE WITH MAKING THESE DECISIONS IN THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN YOU GOT THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY NOT HAVE SAY, WELL, WHY DID Y'ALL BRING THIS TO US? OR, WELL, BECAUSE WE, WE MIGHT KNOW SOMETHING.
THEY MAY KNOW THINGS ABOUT THAT AREA THAT WE MAY NOT, WE MAY NOT KNOW JUST LIKE AT, AT WHERE COUNTY COUNCIL IS AT NOW, THAT, HOW THAT WAS MARSH LAND.
SO COMMUNITY KNOW DIFFERENT THINGS AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF LIFE AS WELL.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO AS WELL, MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SEE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE WHO AT THAT AREA TO SEE HOW, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT WHAT YOU PROPOS AS WELL.
BECAUSE WE HAVE HAVE COMMUNITY INVOLVED INVOLVED.
THAT'S VERY, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
SHALL WE MOVE ON THEN? IN-HOUSE MAINTENANCE DISCUSSION.
ARE YOU GONNA, ARE YOU PING AGENDA ITEMS?
IT'S MORE FOR MYSELF THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
YOU TO POWERPOINT OR? WE DO TALKING FROM TALKING FROM THE DOC.
THEY HAVE THE DOCUMENTS, BUT YES.
NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON TOP OF THESE DOCUMENT.
OH, AM I WRONG? UM, THERE, THERE IS A POWER.
YEAH, THERE IS THAT, THERE IS YOUR POWERPOINT THAT YOU PUT.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU, IT WAS PART OF THE BIGGER POWERPOINT.
SO, WHICH, WHICH DECK, WHICH THIS ONE, UM, UM, LET'S START WITH, I'M GONNA, LET'S START WITH THE NUMBERS AND I'LL SPEAK BASED ON THE NARRATIVE, THE, THE, THE WORDS.
UM, SO I'M TALK ABOUT THAT, THE BOTH, ALL THE NUMBERS.
AND I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT, UM, AS, AS, UH, PAINLESS AS POSSIBLE.
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MY TASK WAS, I WAS CHARGED WITH, UH, DOING AN ANALYSIS OF BRINGING MAINTENANCE BACK IN HOUSE FOR FIT IS CON CONTINUING A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP.UM, SO WE ARE GOING OUT FOR BID VERY SOON.
BY THE END OF THIS, UH, FISCAL YEAR, I BELIEVE JUNE.
IT'S JUNE 30TH, THE, THE END OF THE CONTRACT YEAR.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED AN EXTENSION, SO IT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE GO OUT BID ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
UM, SO THE DOCUMENT BEFORE YOU TODAY, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE FORMAT FIRST IS THE FORMAT IS THE SAME AS THE CUSTODIAL ANALYSIS THAT I DID A YEAR AGO.
IT WAS ALMOST TO THE, TO THE DAY.
IT WAS, IT WAS A PRETTY
SO I FEEL IT WAS BEST TO STICK TO THE SAME FORMAT BECAUSE YOU'RE FAMILIAR, RELATIVELY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
AND THEN I ADDED SOME, UM, SO THE TOP SECTION LUMP, AND I'VE, UH, LABELED THE COLUMNS IN THE ROWS, SO THE COLUMNS A, B, C.
AND SO I'LL REFERENCE A FEW OF THOSE.
AND THEN THE NUM I NUMBERED THE SIDE SO WE COULD PINPOINT SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT CERTAIN ONES.
SO ROSE ONE THROUGH FIVE, UM, ARE GOING TO BE ALL YOUR CON CONTRACTED SERVICES BASED ON
AND WE THINK WE'RE GONNA BE BY SIX REMAINING WITH THE CONTRACT.
AND THEN SIX THROUGH 34 OR SIX THROUGH 32, UH, RELATE TO A SELF OPERATING OR ALSO KNOWN AS IN-HOUSE SERVICE.
AND SO WE USED THE, SOME OF THE SAME ASSUMPTIONS OR WE USE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE LAST CONTRACT THAT WE, WE WENT WITH AND, AND WHAT INCREASES MAY HAVE OCCURRED WITH THAT.
SO, UM, AS WE GET STARTED, I'M GONNA START WITH, UH, AT THE VERY TOP, RIGHT BELOW THE A, P AND C.
THE CURRENT ANNUAL BASE CONTRACT IS $3.7 MILLION ON THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT RIGHT NOW.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE SUPPLY BUDGET.
SO OUR CONTRACT HAS SHOWS THAT WE ALSO PAY FOR ANY SUPPLIES OR TOOLS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST PAYING FOR LABOR COSTS.
UM, THERE ARE SOME, UH, REQUIREMENTS.
I BELIEVE THAT WE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE DISTRICT PAYS FOR ALL THE VEHICLES THAT ARE USED EXCEPT FOR THOSE OF THE, UM, SIX MANAGERS.
SO THE SIX MANAGERS, THE UPPER LEVEL MANAGEMENT, UH, THEIR VEHICLES ARE OWNED AND OPERATED BY, UH, A BM SERVICES RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE CONTRACT ENTAILS.
UM, SO WHEN YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THAT FURTHER DOWN AS WE LOOK AT COSTS.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE OWN ALL THE VEHICLES.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE ESTIMATING IS THAT THERE WOULD BE A, UH, FOR NEXT, UH, BUDGET YEAR, UH, CONTRACT WITH $4.9 MILLION.
SO THAT WOULD BE A, UH, FROM THE BASE OF 30.7.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, A 30% INCREASE.
NOW WE UNDERSTAND THAT IS A BIG INCREASE.
UM, IT IS SUBSTANTIAL AND WE SAW A SIMILAR INCREASE WHEN WE WENT OUT BID FOR CUSTODIAL.
AND THE REASONS BEHIND THAT IS THAT THE CURRENT VENDOR HAS BEEN CONSTRAINED, HELD AT A 3% CPI OR CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, UM, INCREASED THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THAT CONTRACT WITH VERY FEW ADDITIONS TO THAT.
UH, AND DURING THAT PERIOD, INFLATION IS DRASTICALLY INCREASED.
UM, CPI, PARTICULARLY IN THE FACILITY MAINTENANCE AND CONSTRUCTION AREAS.
SO IN THAT FIELD IN PARTICULAR, UH, AND THERE IS REALLY NO OUTLOOK LIKE MANY OTHER AREAS LIKE FOOD AND OTHER COSTS, NO OUTLOOK FOR ANY REDUCTION IN THAT.
UM, LABOR RATES SPECIFICALLY FOR SKILLED WORKERS HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY RISEN SINCE THE PANDEMIC, AND THIS CONTRACT IS FILLED WITH SKILLED LABORERS.
UH, ANOTHER CHALLENGE FOR US, WHICH I DIDN'T MENTION IN THE NARRATIVE, IS THAT WE ARE A RELATIVELY SMALL COMMUNITY COMPARED TO SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH SKILLED LABOR TO DRAW FROM AS SAY, CHARLESTON OR SAVANNAH OR OTHER, OR COLUMBIA AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT, UH, REACH OUT A LITTLE FURTHER AND HAVE THAT, UH, TO RECRUIT THOSE LABORERS.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE REASONS THAT ARE DRIVING THOSE COSTS UP.
AND WE BELIEVE IT COULD BE AS HIGH AS 30% FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO WE BELIEVE THAT THE INCREASE COULD BE AT LEAST $1.2 MILLION.
AND THAT'S IN CELL, I'M LOOKING AT CELL A FIVE ROW FIVE, 1.19.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A BIG JUMP FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT THEN SMALLER
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INCREASES THE FOLLOWING TWO YEARS, ABOUT $300,000 EACH OF THE NEXT TWO YEARS.UM, WE'RE PUTTING A 5% INCREASE IN SUPPLIES IN HERE BECAUSE OF A COUPLE OF REASONS.
UM, JUST INCREASE IN COSTS DUE TO INFLATION, BUT ALSO WE HAVE POTENTIAL TARIFFS TO CONSIDER AS WELL ON MERCHANDISE, UM, TOOLS ON MATERIALS, UM, FOR REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
SO WE DO HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF THOSE, UM, THAT MAY BE ON THE HORIZON.
SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE DOWN TO THE SELF-OPERATED SECTION, STARTING WITH FLORIDA 32.
UM, LABOR, AGAIN REPRESENTS THE MOST OF THE COSTS OF THE OPERATED PROGRAM, UM, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
AND I, I WORK WITH, UM, THE FACILITIES AND OPERATIONS FOLKS TO GET ANY OF THESE NUMBERS, UH, THAT WE HAVE 64 EMPLOYEES, UH, AND THEY ARE EXPECTED TO COST, UH, $5.6 MILLION IN THE NEXT YEAR, WHICH INCLUDES SALARIES AND BENEFITS.
SO WE'VE LISTED IN ROW SIX THROUGH 17, UM, THE, UH, SPECIFIC EMPLOYEES AND HOW MANY FTES WOULD BE IN EACH CATEGORY AND WHAT THOSE COSTS WOULD BE.
UM, IN AREAS THAT WE HAD, UH, RANGES OF HOURLY RATES, WE TOOK OUR ASSUMPTIONS WOULD THAT WE WOULD TAKE AN AVERAGE.
UM, IT INCREASED IN THE NEXT YEAR, UM, BY, I BELIEVE IT WAS 5% THAT I WROTE MOVED UP, UH, IN EACH YEAR.
SO IN ADDITION TO THOSE EMPLOYEES, UM, WE ARE INCLUDING SOME OTHER DIRECT, SO THAT WOULD BE YOUR OVERHEAD COSTS.
OTHER DIRECT COSTS WOULD BE, UM, YOUR SUPPLY BUDGET, WHICH WE IS IDENTICAL.
SO THE SUPPLY BUDGET WOULD BE BOTH IN THE CONTRACTED SERVICE AREA, BUDGET AND, AND IN THE SELF-OPERATED.
BUT OTHER COSTS THAT WOULD NOT BE, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD ON, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST YEAR WOULD BE SIX VEHICLES.
FOR MANAGERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PAID BY THE CONTRACTOR, UH, WE'D HAVE TO ADD A TRAINING PROGRAM AND IN CONTRACTORS OR, OR SKILLED, UH, EXPERTS IN SPECIFIC AREAS LIKE PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, HBI OR IN OTHER AREAS.
SO WE CONSIDER, UH, ADDITIONAL COST FOR TRAINING AND, UH, WORKERS' COMPENSATION.
UM, ACTUALLY I, I, AND I'LL SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE MORE LATER, BUT WE, I DID TALK WITH, UH, OUR INSURANCE COMPANY AND I ORIGINALLY PROJECTED ABOUT A 56,000 OR, UH, AND RISING UP, UM, FIVE PERCENTAGES EACH YEAR.
BUT, UH, LATER ESTIMATES CAME BACK AT ABOUT 125,000, SO ABOUT 75,000 MORE THAN THIS.
SO, OH, UH, THAT CAME BACK A LITTLE TOO LATE FOR ME TO EDIT THIS FOR YOU.
BUT, SO THAT, UH, ESTIMATE'S A LITTLE LOW.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INSURANCE COSTS AS A RESULT OF SIX ADDITIONAL VEHICLES.
SO THE EXTRA DEPARTMENT LATE OVERHEAD, UH, WOULD BE ABOUT TWO, $2 MILLION THERE.
AND THEN INDIRECT COSTS OR OTHER, UM, COSTS THAT AREN'T A LITTLE HARDER TO QUANTIFY HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL, UH, WORK FOR THE PAYROLL DEPARTMENT OF 64 EMPLOYEES TO ONBOARD THEM.
THOSE COSTS ARE GONNA BE HIGHER IN THE FIRST YEAR BECAUSE OF ALL THE, UM, SIGNING UP FOR BENEFITS AND, UM, INSURANCE AND, UM, CERTAIN DEDUCTIONS AND RETIREMENT PLANS.
UH, SO THAT'D BE A COMBINATION OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND PAYROLL DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND THEN SETTING UP OTHER, UM, OTHER, UM, ITEMS LIKE ONGOING, UH, RECRUITMENT.
SO YOU HAVE, THERE'S AN INITIAL RECRUITMENT COST, WHICH WOULD TO FIND THE SKILLED WORKERS, WHICH WOULD NEED TO BE DONE VERY QUICKLY, VERY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE ACTUALLY.
AND THEN, UH, ONGOING AS THE TURNOVER OCCURS IN THE INDUSTRY.
SO ABOUT 228,000 ON THE INDIRECT COST.
SO OVERALL, IT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE ABOUT SEVEN, ABOUT $8 MILLION TOTAL.
SO MY INITIAL ESTIMATES WERE THAT IT WOULD BE ABOUT $1.6 MILLION MORE IN THE FIRST YEAR, UM, TO BRING IN, IN-HOUSE VERSUS CONTRACT.
UM, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE INCREASES THE OTHER YEARS, BUT NOT QUITE AS MUCH BECAUSE OF INITIAL, SOME OF INITIAL COSTS WOULD ALREADY BE, UM, TAKEN CARE OF IN THE FIRST YEAR.
SO, UM, THE ANALYSIS AGAIN WAS, UH, JOINT EFFORT FROM FACILITIES AND OPERATIONS, HR, FINANCE, AND, BUT ALSO I HAD
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TWO THIRD PARTY VALIDATORS.UM, SO, UH, AFTER I HAD A, A SHORT WINDOW OF TIME BECAUSE I HAD TO GO OUTTA TOWN, BUT I WAS ABLE TO, UM, SPEAK WITH, UH, AND RUN THINGS BY A FEW FOLKS IN THE OFFICE.
AND A VERY GOOD RECOMMENDATION CAME FORWARD.
AND THAT WAS TO CONTACT MR. REGGIE MURPHY.
UM, REGGIE WAS A, AN EMPLOYEE OF THE DISTRICT.
UM, WELL, HE, FIRST OF ALL, HE'S A, UM, HE HAS AN MBA, HE'S A RETIRED CPA WHO PERFORMED CONTRACT MANAGEMENT WITH THE POSTAL SERVICE FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
SO HE DID CONTRACTS, CONSTRUCTION, ALL THOSE THINGS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
UH, AFTER RETIRED, THE POSTAL SERVICE, HE WORKED IN SEVERAL MUNICIPALITIES, INCLUDING LEXINGTON COUNTY, TOWN OF PORT ROYAL AS AN INTERIM, UH, TOWN MANAGER ACTUALLY.
AND IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR OVER 12 YEARS AS A CONTRACT MANAGER, INTERNAL CONTROLS DIRECTOR AND PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR.
AND AFTER LEAVING THE DISTRICT TWO YEARS AGO, HE BEGAN ASSISTING OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN SOUTH CAROLINA WITH SPECIAL PROJECTS.
ONE IN PARTICULAR IN BARNWELL.
RIGHT NOW HE'S WORKING ON A FEMA CLAIM.
UM, SO, UM, OR BA BA IT WAS THE TORNADOES THAT WENT THROUGH BA.
UM, SO HE EMERGED AS A VERY EXPERIENCED PERSON TO BE ABLE TO LOOK OVER THE CONTRACTS THAT HE WAS ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH.
AND SO HE LENDED SOME REALLY, UM, GOOD POINTS.
AND MANY OF THEM ARE IN THE NARRATIVES THAT YOU HAVE TODAY.
IN PARTICULAR, REASONING FOR THE 30% INCREASE THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING, WHICH WOULD BE HOLDING THAT CPI LOW AND, AND, UM, OTHER, YOU KNOW, C OTHER INFLATIONARY PRESSURES AS WELL AS THE, UM, TARIFFS.
BUT ALSO HIS MAIN QUESTION TO ME WAS HOW ARE, WHAT IS THE COST OF FINDING SKILLED LABORERS IN THIS AREA AND HAVE, HAVING THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, UM, WITH A CONTRACTOR THAT MAY BE A NATIONAL COMPANY, THEY MAY HAVE A, A FARTHER REACH, UH, THEY CAN PUT OUT A BROADER NETWORK ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHERE IT MAY BE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT FOR AN IN-HOUSE, UM, RECRUITING STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
IT'S STILL POSSIBLE, BUT IT MIGHT BE, UM, THEY HAVE RESOURCES THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE, SO I DON'T WANNA LEND TO ANY DIRECTION, BUT THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SORT OF PUSHES US IN ONE DIRECTION.
UM, AND THE SECOND, UH, VALIDATION I RECEIVED WAS FROM MR. GRA, UM, UH, HE HAPPENED TO CONTACT ME, UH, ABOUT AN INSURANCE MATTER LAST WEEK AND HAD SAID, IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO FOR YOU? AND I SAID, YES, YOU CAN VALIDATE MY ASSUMPTIONS ON WORKER'S COMPENSATION
SO I SAID, OH, I CAN HAVE TWO VALIDATORS.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, HE TOOK A LOOK AT IT.
BUT, UM, A AGAIN, I WAS ABLE TO GET THAT VALIDATION AND CON CONFIRMATION FROM OUR RISK MANAGER, JENNIFER STATON A LITTLE LATER, THAT THIS REPORT, BUT BOTH CONFIRMED THAT IT NEEDED MY NUMBER WAS A LITTLE TOO LOW, SO IT'S ABOUT 75,000 MORE THAN WHAT I HAVE HERE ON, UM, ON ROAD 22.
CAN I JUST OBJECT TO FORM AND ON BEHALF OF WHAT SAY YES, SIR.
LAST WEEK AT, UH, MR. LIVE GRAHAM WAS SKI DIRECTOR FOR THE SKI, UH, PHI SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION.
HE BROUGHT IN SOME, UH, CARRIERS, WORKED WITH COMP AND OTHER PROPERTY AND CASUALTY, AND IT WAS KIND OF SHOCKING WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE POTENTIAL INCREASE WAS.
SO I WAS GLAD TO HEAR WHEN I LOOKED AT $56,000 THAT YOU SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, THERE'S MORE, THERE IS MORE.
THIS WAS MY INITIAL ESTIMATE AT $74 A PERSON TIMES 64 PEOPLE TIMES, UH, THAT WAS PER MONTH TIMES 12 MONTHS.
UH, HIS ESTIMATES WERE MUCH HIGHER.
AND SO WERE MS. STATON, SHE SAID 125, HE SAID 125 TO 160,000 A YEAR.
WELL, COMPLIMENTS AHEAD THAT OUTSIDE TARGET THAT.
WELL, HE CAME TO ME, SO IT JUST, HE JUST FELL IN MY HANDS,
UM, SO IT JUST HAPPENED RIGHT AT THE RIGHT MOMENT.
SO, UM, BUT AT, UH, ALL ESTIMATES SHOW THAT IT WOULD BE ABOUT 1.6 MILLION MORE THAN OUTSOURCING FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
SO, UM, I'LL END ON THAT NOTE AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, JIMMY, MR. SMITH, PLEASE.
YEAH, I WAS, I I START OFF WITH THIS, UM, PERSONALLY, I, UM, I DISAGREE IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE INFORMATION FROM THE REPORT AND, AND IN, IN TERMS OF FOR YEAR, FOR YEARS, WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM FINDING CUS SO IT, IT IS AND, AND, AND IT DISTRICT AND NOT, NOT EVEN, UH, UH, EVEN I TALKED TO, I TALKED TO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES AND IN OTHER COUNTIES AND THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING PAY, IF YOU PAY THEM, THEY WILL COME.
THE, IT'S THE SAME THING WITH, WITH THE BUSES IS THAT THERE'S
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COMPETITION NOW.SO EITHER WE'RE GOING TO PAY LIKE WE WEIGH OR EITHER WE, WE'RE GONNA KEEP HIDING BEHIND CONTRACTORS TREATING OUR PEOPLE LIKE THEY'RE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS.
AND I'M MEAN, QUITE FRANKLY, I'M TIRED OF HEARING CUSTODIANS AND, AND PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING SAYING THAT, LISTEN, Y'ALL HIRED THESE CONTRACTORS AND THEY DON'T PAY US, THEY DON'T PAY US HALF OF WHAT Y'ALL SAID THEY GOING TO PAY US.
Y'ALL GIVE TEACHERS AND EVERYONE'S BONUSES.
AND WE GO IN THESE BUILDING, WE SAY, WELL, WHY SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS AREN'T CLEAN, OUR CUSTODIANS CENTER, WELL LOOK HERE, Y'ALL WANNA, Y'ALL WANNA WORK, WANNA WORK MORE WORKERS HALF THE WAY.
AND THEN SOMETIMES WE HAVE HALF OF THE STAFF HERE AND HALF OF THE STAFF AIN'T REALLY HERE.
SO YOU GOT TWO OR THREE AND SOME PEOPLE IN SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS AT NIGHT IN DAYTIME CLEANING THESE BUILDINGS.
SO EVEN WILL ONCE AGAIN COME BACK TO ME AS IN, ARE WE GONNA REALLY PAY THEM WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT WHAT THEY'RE WORTH? AND I THINK WE PAY THEM WHAT, WHAT NOT, I DON'T THINK, I BELIEVE IF WE PAY THEM WHAT THEY'RE WORTH, THEY WILL DO THEIR JOB.
AND, AND ALSO IN THE, UH, THE, UH, THE UH, POWER, THE ABILITY OF HIRING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY TAKE A, A SPECIAL INTEREST IN THOSE SCHOOLS.
PEOPLE WHO ARE FROM THAT COMMUNITY, WHO WORK IN AND WHO WORK IN THOSE SCHOOLS, THEY TAKE OWNERSHIP.
THIS IS, THIS IS A BUILDING IN MY, MY COMMUNITY.
SO THEY, IT IS, IT IS A, IT IS A BIT OF, A BIT OF A DIFFERENT OF OWNERSHIP VERSUS SOMEONE JUST COMING IN AND LOOKING AT IT AS A JOB.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT IT STANDS FOR.
SO I, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT, THAT THE, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE SIX, UH, VEHICLES THAT WE, THAT, THAT HAS THAT, THAT, THAT THEY HAVE ACROSS THE COUNTY, I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED THIS BECAUSE EVERY, EVERY, EVERY BUILDING SHOULD HAVE ITS OWN SUPERVISOR.
AND IF YOU HAVE A SUPERVISOR IN THE BUILDING, THEN, THEN, THEN WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU NEED A VEHICLE FOR? GO GOING FROM ONE BUILDING TO THE NEXT IN IN TERMS OF, UH, MAINTEN MANAGERS.
SEE IF OUR CUSTODIANS ARE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
MR. SMITH, THIS IS FOR MAINTENANCE, NOT CUS MAINTENANCE CUSTODIANS, CUSTODIAL.
THIS IS MAINTENANCE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO I'M, I'M, OKAY, SO I'M OKAY.
I'M THINKING SHE'S SAYING THAT, THAT I, WE NEEDED SIX, LIKE, OH, OKAY.
UM, I DO WANNA MENTION ONE LITTLE POINT, UM, THAT THIS ESTIMATE FACES, UH, LABOR RATES ON THE SELF-OPERATED OR IN-HOUSE AT A 20% INCREASE.
UM, MR. OTTING, MS. MAJORS DID A STUDY OF SEVERAL OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE AREA, UM, AND OR, OR IN THE STATE.
AND WE CAME UP, WE SAW THAT OUR RATES WERE CONSIDERABLY LOWER AND WE INCREASED THOSE BY 20% IN THIS ESTIMATE.
SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT OUR RATES NEED TO INCREASE IN ORDER TO ATTRACT HIGHLY SKILLED EMPLOYEES.
SO, UM, I WANNA MAKE, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCLUDED THAT POINT, THAT WE DID CONSIDERABLY INCREASE THAT AND DO EXPECT THAT THAT WILL BE HAPPENING WITH THE NEXT, UM, SCHOOL YEAR, WHETHER IT'S CONTRACT OR IN-HOUSE.
MR. GUYER, I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT FOR ALICE WALTON WHO'S NOT HERE, BUT IT'S ONE THING TO, UH, GO FOR CUSTODIANS.
CUSTODIANS DO THIS, THE SAME COMMON SKILLSET, BUT ALL
YOU GOTTA HAVE WHAT PLUMBERS MAKE.
WELL, PLUMBERS DON'T MAKE THE SAME THAT ELECTRICIANS MAKE.
SO WHAT THE HR DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO HAVE IS A RECRUITING PROBLEM, AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO FILL THESE POSITIONS IN THREE MONTHS IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT LABOR MARKETS.
AND, UH, THAT'S I THINK ALICE WALTON WOULD WOULD SAY GOOD LUCK GETTING THAT, GETTING THAT DONE.
I'M GONNA ASK, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? WERE YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CUSTODIAL, BUT WERE YOU ASKING HIM TO DO A STUDY FOR THE MAINTENANCE? SO SHE JUST TALKED ABOUT MAINTENANCE.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE MAKING THE CONTRACTS AND ALL THE THINGS TO HAVE THIS WITH MAINTENANCE, NOT CUSTODIAL.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE CUSTODIAL IS A OKAY WITH THEIR STAFFING, BUT TO GET ALL THIS CONTRACTOR WORKER WITH A MAINTENANCE WILL BE A NIGHTMARE FOR SURE, IN MY OPINION.
BUT THE REASON IS CONFUSED IS 'CAUSE WE JUST DID THIS LAST YEAR.
SO YEAH, WE, WE, WE DID THIS WHOLE GREATLY IMPROVED SINCE LAST YEAR.
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WE WENT THROUGH THIS WHOLE ASSESSMENT LAST YEAR FOR CUS OKAY, ALRIGHT.UM, AND THE REASON WE'RE DOING IT NOW IS BECAUSE OUR MAINTENANCE CONTRACT IS COMING UP.
UH, SO, UH, HONESTLY, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IT SIX MONTHS AGO, RIGHT? UM, BUT, UH, I MEAN, AND WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND OURSELVES, AND I'M GUESSING THE CONTRACT'S THREE YEARS, WELL, THEY'RE ACTUALLY FIVE YEAR CONTRACTS WITH ONE YEAR.
SO IN FIVE YEARS, IN FOUR YEARS, WE CAN REMIND OURSELVES TO DO THIS AGAIN.
WE CAN LOOK EVERY YEAR IF THINGS ARE GOING DOWNHILL, WE COULD BRING IT UP AND DECIDE IF WE WANNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
UM, AS I SAID WITH THE CUSTODIAL WHEN WE DID THIS EXERCISE, I, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US OUTSOURCING, MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAL.
UM, I'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH, UM, NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO DO EXACTLY, BUT A LOT OF DISTRICTS HAVE IN-HOUSE MAINTENANCE, UM, AND THEY DON'T CONTRACT IT OUT.
I UNDERSTAND WE'RE IN A CONSTRAINED MARKET, BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHY I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUTSOURCING CUSTODIAL MAINTENANCE.
I AGREE, TANYA, VERY MUCH WITH YOUR PROJECTIONS AND YOUR ASSUMPTIONS.
THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE, WE, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANYTHING LIKE FINAL NUMBERS, BUT I THINK YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ARE PROBABLY IN THE BALLPARK AND I THINK IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE TO BRING, UH, MAINTENANCE BACK IN THE HOUSE.
BUT THE QUESTION IS WHY, RIGHT? AND I THINK THERE'S THREE POSSIBLE ANSWERS.
NUMBER ONE, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND, YOU KNOW, UH, GOVERNMENT IS MUCH LESS EFFICIENT IN RUNNING THESE OPERATIONS.
UH, BECAUSE WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THESE, UH, THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS, THEY SAY THEY OFFER BENEFITS, BUT THE BENEFITS ARE MORE OR LESS WORTHLESS.
AND THEY'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT PRETTY MUCH NO ONE TAKES THEM.
SO MOST OF THE EXPENSE GOES ONTO THE EMPLOYEES WHO THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING NOT THAT MUCH MONEY, RIGHT? SO, OR THE THIRD OPTION IS, IT'S MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.
MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF EFFICIENCY.
WE SEEM TO HAVE A DIRECTOR AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, PROGRAM MANAGER, SUPER.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED ALL THAT.
SO I DO THINK THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT.
BUT HERE'S THE, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I HAVE IN WHAT WE TALK ABOUT HAPPENING IN WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
AND WE'RE ALREADY SEEING IT TREMENDOUSLY IN INDUSTRIES LIKE FINANCE AND IN INDUSTRIES LIKE TECHNOLOGY, HUMAN RESOURCES, THEY'RE BEING REPLACED.
SOME OF THE DATA ENTRIES, SOME OF THE ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS ARE BEING REPLACED PRETTY RAPIDLY BY ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, UH, TYPE AGENTS.
SO LIKE THE THEME YOU HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT AI'S EFFECT ON THE JOB MARKET IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NEEDED TO BE ONSITE IN PERSON.
SO THAT'D BE TEACHERS, DOCTORS, NURSES, CUSTODIANS, MAINTENANCE WORKERS, HVAC REPAIRMEN, THEY SHOULD DO WELL AND THEY WILL PROBABLY DO BETTER THAN THEY HAVE BEEN DOING, UM, WITH THIS NEW ECONOMIC MODEL BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO OUTSOURCE THAT STUFF.
IT'S HARD TO OUTSOURCE THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE IN THE CLASSROOM TO FIX THINGS, RIGHT? IT'S HARD TO OUTSOURCE, UH, AIR CONDITIONER, REPAIRMEN.
SO, AND YET WE'VE KIND OF TURNED THAT MODEL ON ITS HEAD BECAUSE I WOULD WONDER, AND I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU TO, UH, FIND SOMEONE WHO WORKS AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE DOING DATA ENTRY, DOING IT, DOING SOME OF THAT BASELINE STUFF WHERE YOU'RE NOT NEEDED TO BE IN PERSON.
THAT DOESN'T GET BENEFITS THAT WE OUTSOURCE.
I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO OUTSOURCE SOME OF THOSE JOBS AND SAVE SOME MONEY.
BUT AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, WE DON'T OUTSOURCE ANY OF THE DISTRICT LEVEL JOBS.
NUMBER TWO, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE CLASSROOM.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE WORKING IN THE SCHOOLS AND CLASSROOMS. MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAN, AS I'VE SAID IN OTHER, UH, CONTEXTS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO TEACHER SATISFACTION, PARENT SATISFACTION, AND STUDENT SATISFACTION.
SO WE SHOULD REALLY EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THOSE JOBS.
AND ONE WAY YOU DO THAT IS YOU GIVE 'EM BENEFITS.
SO I THINK THAT THE OTHER, THE THIRD THING IS WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WANTING TO EXPAND OUR KATE OFFERINGS, RIGHT? SO TO TEACH HVAC REPAIRMEN, TO TEACH PLUMBERS, TO TEACH ELECTRICIANS.
'CAUSE WE SEE THAT AS A VERSIONING JOB MARKET.
AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE LIKE, YEAH, BUT WE DON'T WANNA RECRUIT 'EM AND HIRE 'EM 'CAUSE THAT'S A PAIN.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, AND I I AGREE WITH, UH, OUR CHAIR'S, UH, COMMENTS.
THREE MONTHS PROBABLY DOESN'T GIVE US ENOUGH TIME.
BUT I DO HAVE FUNDAMENTALLY A PROBLEM WITH US OUTSOURCING, TEACHING ASSISTANTS, SPED MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAN, THOSE JOBS THAT ARE WORKING IN THE HOS, UH, IN THE HOSPITAL, SORRY, IN THE CLASSROOM.
AND OUTSOURCING THOSE AND DENYING THOSE EMPLOYEES, UH, BENEFITS AND CONNECTION TO THE DISTRICT WHEN WE'RE NOT DOING THAT WITH THE JOBS THAT IN MORE TRADITIONAL, UH, PRIVATE SECTOR ECONOMIES ARE MORE EASILY OUTSOURCED.
SO THAT'S, IT'S, I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION ONE OR THE OTHER, OR A COMMENT.
I'M JUST SAYING THESE ARE MY PHILOSOPHICAL PROBLEMS WITH US, UH, OUTSOURCING THESE POSITIONS.
UH, AND, AND I ACTUALLY, YOU SAID IT, UH, VERY, UH, NICELY, MS. BARR, AND I DO APOLOGIZE.
WE LOST WHEN YOU SAID THE VEHICLES, AND
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ACTUALLY I REMEMBER LAST YEAR AND, AND, AND, AND MY MIND JUST WENT OFF.UH, WE, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK AFTER I, WE WERE HIRING, HIRING BECOME, WE WERE, I REMEMBER SOMEWHERE WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
AND SO WHEN I SAW, WHEN I WAS EXCUSE I WAS LISTENING, I SAID, OKAY, MUST WELL, TODAY'S THE DAY I WAS THINKING THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO REVISIT IN TERMS OF, OF, UH, WE WERE NOT GONNA WAIT UNTIL THE CONTRACT, UH, UNTIL, UNTIL WE MADE IT TO A CRUNCH TIME.
WE WERE GOING TO REVISE IT AND LOOK AT IT.
SO I WAS THINKING THAT TODAY WE WERE LOOKING AT CUSTODIANS.
SO, SO, SO, SO WHEN, WHEN YOU WAS BRINGING TO THAT INFORMATION, I WASN'T THINKING OF MAINTENANCE.
AND SHE SAID, I WAS THINKING OF CUSTODIANS, AND SO I'M LIKE SIX MANAGERS.
I'M LIKE, WHAT? AND, AND SO, SO I, SO I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
BUT EVERYTHING I'VE SAID ALONG THE LINES OF HAVING PEOPLE WHO WORK IN OUR CARE OR WHO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY, TO, TO ME, SOME OF THAT SAME STUFF IS, IS, IS ALONG WITH, WITH THE SAME, IS ALONG THE SAME NOTION OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IF THIS IS BROUGHT TO US THREE MONTHS BEFORE GETTING OUR CONTRACT, THEN THIS IS A SHAME BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THAT THIS SHOULD BE BOUGHT TO US EXTREME MONTHS KNOWING THAT THIS WON'T GIVE US THE TIME.
IF EVERYTHING'S ALWAYS BROUGHT TO US IN OR RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION, THEN THAT DOESN'T GIVE US THE EFFECT, THE EFFECTIVENESS TO MAKE SOUND DECISIONS.
AND IN, IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO THINK OF BEING ABLE TO MAKE SOUND DECISIONS AS IN A, A GREAT PERIOD OF TIME TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP ON IT AND UNDER AND UNDERSTANDING AND BE ABLE TO RUN NUMBERS AND GO BACK AND, AND, AND, AND, AND LOOK AT THINGS WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE COMFORTABILITY OF SLEEPING AND KNOWING THAT YOU MADE A GOOD DECISION.
SO THROUGH THAT, YEAH, THREE MONTHS, UH, DOESN'T GIVE US, GIVE US TIME AND ALL THAT.
AND I DO HEAR PEOPLE, I, I DO HAVE ACTUALLY, I HAVE A HOMEBOY WHO WORKS ON THE AIR STATION AND HE, HE IS A, UH, HE, HE'S A, UH, HE, HE WORKS IN THE AIR CONDITION, UH, DEPARTMENT.
AND, AND HE'S TOO HAVE TOLD ME THAT GUYS, THEY HAVE LEFT THE DISTRICT AND, AND COME OVER HERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A PACKAGE DEAL.
WE DON'T HAVE A PACKAGE DEAL OVER HERE.
AND THAT THESE, ONCE AGAIN, THAT DO THE SAME THING.
THESE ARE THESE COMPANIES THAT WE, THAT WE DEAL WITH WHO ARE THIRD, WHO ARE THIRD PARTY, WHO WE CONTRACT WITH TREAT, TREAT OUR TRIAGE TREE, OUR OUR TAXPAYERS WHO COME AND WORK HERE LIKE TRASH.
SO AT SOME POINT, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE TO CHANGE SOMETHING UP.
SO DO, DO WE DO HALF? DO WE DO, DO WE LOOK AT DOING HALF, MAYBE HALF OF OUR MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE GUY AND MAYBE WE DO HALF, HALF THIS YEAR? 'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE WITH THE CUSTODIANS.
MAYBE WE DO HALF ONE YEAR AND AND HALF THE HALF THE NEXT YEAR.
DO DO, DO WE, DO WE BUY THREE TRUCKS AND THEN AND, AND, AND, UH, AND, AND CONTRACT THE CONTRACT THE OTHER HALF OF IT.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, THREE MONTHS, THREE MONTHS WOULD DEFINITELY PUT US IN, WILL DEFINITELY PUT US IN THE CRUNCH.
SO NOW THE, NOW NOW THE QUESTION IT BECOMES HOW LONG DO WE ACCEPT A, A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT OR, OR HOW LONG DO WE GO TO CONTRACT? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PUT THE NUMBER OF YEARS OF CONTRACT OF THE, OF, OF A CONTRACT THAT WE WANT.
EITHER YOU WANT THE CONTRACT OR YOU DON'T WANT THE CONTRACT.
SO I MEAN, DO WE DO A YEAR CONTRACT OR TWO YEARS CONTRACT AT, AT, AT MAX AND SAY, HEY, WE, WE, WE WE'RE LOOKING TO START WITH MAYBE NEXT YEAR, UH, GETTING MAYBE PART OF THE MAINTENANCE GUYS IN-HOUSE.
SO I, I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO, TO LOOK AT NOW IS ABOUT HOW DO WE CAPITALIZE ALL THE TIME THAT WE HAVE AND HOW DO WE MAKE A SOUND DECISION WORKING TOWARDS THE END GOAL THAT WILL BEST PLEASE EVER PLEASE, PLEASE THAT, THAT THAT WILL BEST BE A COMPROMISE FOR EVERYWHERE.
THAT WAY THAT WE ALL CAN BE, BE COMFORTABLE.
I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH THAT.
SO, UM, THE CUSTODIAL WAS REVIEWED ALMOST EXACTLY A YEAR AGO, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.
WE HAD THESE SAME TYPE CONVERSATIONS AS IN OUR OUT, UH, THEN ALSO EXTERNAL, UM, SKILLSET WERE OBTAINED TO REVIEW THE METHODOLOGY TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE TYPE AND AS ACCURATE AS THE EXPERTS COULD SAY, UH, AND NOW LOOK AT CUSTODIAL, NO CUSTODIAL, OKAY, I'M USING CUSTODIAL AS AN EXAMPLE.
REMEMBER THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD WITH THE QUALITATIVE PERFORMANCE OF THE CUSTODIAL FUNCTION BEFORE WE CHANGED THE CONTRACT.
WE STILL HAVE EXTERNAL SERVICE PROVIDERS, BUT WE ARE MANAGING THEM VERY TIGHTLY WITH SPECIFIC NON-NEGOTIABLE OUTCOMES.
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MS MAJORS IN YOUR OPERATION, THE REST OF THE BOARD, YOU'VE ACTUALLY GIVEN US VISUAL DATA THAT WE COULD MANAGE IT VERY WELL.SO I THINK WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW GOING EXTERNAL AND PROPERLY AND VERY TIGHTLY MANAGED WORKS.
NOW, LEMME PUT IT INTO AN EXTERNAL FACTOR.
YES, YESTERDAY, DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION SLASHED A BILLION DOLLARS OUT OF FUNDING THAT GOES TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
BUT I DON'T THINK NOW'S THE TIME TO EXPERIMENT.
IF WE CAN IMPROVE IT INTERNALLY, I'D SAY IF MR. SMITH IS ALLUDING TO TAKE A, MAYBE A TWO YEAR CONTRACT, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO INVEST AND COMMIT IF, WHEN WE'VE TRADITIONALLY DONE THREE YEARS AND THEN WE'RE SAYING TWO.
SO I WOULD SAY, LOOK, INTERNALLY AS YOU'VE DONE BEFORE, SEE HOW YOU CAN BASICALLY IDENTIFY SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN TERMS OF HOLDING THE SERVICE PROVIDER ACCOUNTABLE.
BECAUSE WE NEED TO SHOW IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING JUST LIKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING, AND LOOK AT ALL THE EPIPHANIES THAT HAVE BEEN UNCOVERED THERE.
SO I'M JUST SAYING IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL ENVIRONMENT, I THINK NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT GOING FORWARD,
NOW YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, OUR CONTRACT IS FIVE YEARS WITH ONE YEAR, TWO ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS.
I BELIEVE THAT'S THE FORMAT THAT THE WAY IT'S SET UP? WELL, NO, IT'S, IT'S A ONE YEAR RENEWAL FOR FIVE YEARS.
SO EVERY YEAR IT'S LOOKED AT, SO OH, OKAY.
ANYWHERE ALONG THE WAY IT COULD BE DECIDED THAT YOU WANT TO CANCEL THAT CONTRACT AND UH, GO ANOTHER WAY.
SO WE MADE THAT CHANGE WHEN WE, UM, WE PUT RFP OUT FOR CUSTODIAL.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE IDENTIFIED THAT WAS KIND OF HOLDING US BACK, THE NEW CUSTODIAL CONTRACT IS OUR FORMAT FOR OUR TERM, WHICH WAS A THREE YEAR BASE WITH TWO ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS.
SO TO GIVE US A LOT MORE ROOM TO EVALUATE, WE MOVED IT TO OUR BASE TERM OF ONE YEAR WITH FOUR ONE YEAR ANNUAL EXTENSIONS, JUST SO WE COULD REEVALUATE OUR CUSTODIAL CONTRACT ANNUALLY.
MS. DORIGHT, I DO HAVE A QUESTION IF, UM, AND I, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS.
UM, AND, UH, MR. DALLAS IS, YOU KNOW, VERY ADEPT AT, UH, LOOKING AT THE, THE BIGGER BUSINESS MODEL, THE BIGGER FINANCIAL PICTURE.
AND I AGREE WITH HIM A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT WE NEED TO SHOW AS A BOARD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING, UH, STEWARDS OF, UH, TAXPAYERS MONEY AND WE MAY NOT, WE MAY LOSE SOME MONEY THERE AND THERE.
SO I THINK IT IS A TIME TO DO SOME BELT TIGHTENING.
BUT TO THAT END, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, HAVE WE EVER CONSIDERED WHAT OTHER JOBS THAT WE COULD CONTRACT OUT THAT ARE CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, BESIDES CUSTODIAL MAINTENANCE, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER, I THINK, UM, SERVICES THAT WE COULD USE THAT WOULD PERHAPS BRING IN EVEN MORE SAVINGS TO THE DISTRICT.
ARE WE CONSIDERING OUTSOURCING ANYTHING ELSE? NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.
IT MIGHT BE A HUMAN RESOURCE QUESTION.
MAYBE WE COULD PUT THAT ON A, A FUTURE AGENDA TOPIC.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GOT THAT GOING ON WITH, UH, YOUR, YOUR CAMERA AND MIC THERE, MRS. BOATRIGHT, BUT YOU HAVE A VERY MUSICAL VOICE RIGHT NOW.
DID ANYBODY HEAR THAT? OH, I, YEAH.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME KIND OF, UH, LIKE, LIKE YOU HAVE LIKE A, AN ACOUSTIC FILTER ON, ON YOUR THING THAT'S LIKE ADDING MELODY OR SOME TYPE OF CHORUS BEHIND YOU.
I DO HAVE, UM, I HAVE ONE OF THOSE, UH, UH, WE HAVE A PIANO COMP COMPETITION HERE ON THE ISLAND, AND, UH, WE HOST A PRE-PROFESSIONAL PIANIST AND ONE OF 'EM STAYING WITH ME.
SO IF YOU HEAR, I ACTUALLY HAVE A CONCERT LEVEL PIANIST HANGING OUT IN MY HOUSE PLAYING THE PIANO
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S COMING THROUGH OR NOT.
UM, ALL RIGHT, SO MOVING FORWARD, WHAT, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP FORWARD WITH THIS? UM, THIS WAS REQUESTED BY THE COMMITTEE, SO WE BROUGHT IT FORWARD.
SO, WELL, I I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN, UH, AS A COMMITTEE, WE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION.
SO I, I I, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHERE WE TAKE TO THE, THE FULL BOARD AND SAY, OPEN A DISCUSSION TO THE FULL BOARD.
UM, BUT THAT TAKES A MOTION, CORRECT? TAKE IT TO THE FULL BOARD.
NO, LEMME JUST PUT IT ON, JUST PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
JUST TALK ABOUT IT OUT OF OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
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ARE AT ANY TIME GONNA COME OUT WITH THE MAINTENANCE RFP.UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY A LITTLE BEHIND WHERE I'D LIKE TO BE IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE BY JULY ONE.
SO I WOULD, IT COULD EVEN COME OUT BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE NEXT BOARD MEETING OCCURS.
YEAH, ACTUALLY IT NEEDS TO 'CAUSE THE NEXT ONE'S LIKE TWO WEEKS OUT.
SO THIS WOULDN'T GO, UH, THIS REPORT WOULDN'T GO ON UNTIL OUR APRIL 4TH OR APRIL 1ST MEETING.
BY THAT TIME, THE RFP FOR MAINTENANCE WILL BE ON THE STREET.
HAS THE, UH, UH, HAS THE, UM, AGENDA ALREADY BEEN SET FOR THE WORK SESSION AT THE END OF THE MONTH? WE SAID IT YESTERDAY, BUT I MEAN, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE COMMITTEE CONVERSATIONS THEN? WE DON'T HAVE 'EM, BUT I MEAN, IF YOU'RE REQUESTING FOR IT TO BE PUT ONTO THE AGENDA, YOU JUST ASK THE CHAIR.
UM, AND YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE A OFFICER HERE, OFFICER HERE, THE ACTUAL BOARD MEETING
UM, YOU CAN THROW SOMETHING AT ME.
UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER MR. CHAIR IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A ONGOING PROCESS AND THEN TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
BECAUSE WITH THE WAY THAT YOU POTENTIALLY COULD MODIFY THE CONTRACTS IN YOUR RFP, YOU COULD BUILD IN THE ONE YEAR RATHER THAN THE EXTENSION LIKE YOU'VE DONE WITH CUSTODIAN, THEN IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT, TAKE SOME RIGOR AND SOME TIME, REALLY GO THROUGH IT.
AND AS MS. VOTE WRITES, SAY, THERE MAY BE OTHER POSITIONS THAT WE CAN OUTSOURCE AS WELL, RIGHT? A THIRD.
AND I THINK THAT WILL, THE OPTICS OF, THAT'LL BE VERY GOOD FOR US AS AN ORGANIZATION, AND THEN THEY CAN GO FORWARD WITH THE RFP AND WE CAN DO A RIGOROUS STUDY ON YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE OTHER BOARD MEMBER AND SEE WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO FORWARD IS, I THINK IT'S VERY TIMELY TO DO THAT.
I HONESTLY THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST OPTION.
WELL, WELL ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, I, THAT, THAT WAS, UH, POSITIVE WHAT, WHAT I WAS GONNA DO.
I WAS, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY WHEN WE WERE SAYING YEAH, WE WERE SAYING THAT NO, UH, WE COULDN'T, UH, COME UP WITH SOMETHING I WAS GONNA FIGURE, BUT SHE SAID VERY ELEGANTLY.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK THAT WE DO, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DO EXACTLY, UH, WHAT HE SAID IN, IN TERMS OF MOVEMENT WITH THAT, UH, WITH, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
BECAUSE AS HE STATED ALREADY, THE RF P'S GONNA COME OUT, BUT I THINK THE, THE RFP SHOULD, UH, BE, UH, IN TERMS OF LIKE YOU SAID, A ONE YEAR, SO THAT, THAT WOULD GIVE TIME TO, UH, SHOW RIGHT.
SO, UH, NO, NO, ACTUALLY NO, WE DIDN'T, NO, WE DIDN'T SAY HE JUST, HE, HE MADE A RECORD.
HE SAID THAT HE COULD, BUT I'M, NOW, I'M SAYING MOVING FORWARD, THAT RIGHT.
MY THING IS, AT THIS TIME, I, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD TO GET A SECOND TO THE BOARD ALSO WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IN THE RFP IS NO LONGER THAN THE YEAR, SO THEREFORE THAT'S DIFFERENT.
'CAUSE I'M MAKING A MOTION AS A, AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, FORWARD.
WELL, YEAH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'M MAKING A, A MOTION TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO THE FULL BOARD AS A RECOMME AS A RECOMMENDATION WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT THE RRFP WOULD BE PUT OUT FOR A YEAR.
AND WE WILL, WE WILL DO EXACT, UH, WE WILL WORK COLLABORATIVELY, UH, TO YOU CAN, UH, FOR, TO BLANK.
MR. UH, MR. DOON, IN TERMS, IN TERMS OF, OF, OF WHAT YOU SAID IN, IN TERMS, IN TERMS OF, UM, LOOKING INTO, INTO A YEAR, IS THAT, IS THAT, WHAT IS, IS THAT, IS THAT, WELL, WHAT I, I THOUGHT I SAID HOPEFULLY, I WAS TRYING TO SAY IS YOU COULD HAVE YOUR CONTRACT SO THAT IT IS LONG ENOUGH THAT IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THE NATURAL PROCESS PROCESS OF, OF, OF BIDDING.
IF YOU, TO ME, IF YOU, IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO TAKE A CONTRACT FOR ONE YEAR.
SO YOU CAN PUT IT IN THERE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE AN EXIT CLAUSE IN THAT CONTRACT THAT YOU CAN TERMINATE IT AT THE ONE YEAR MR THAT WAY IT'S THERE.
YOU CAN DO YOUR RIGOROUS REVIEW AND THEN IF YOU DECIDE, WAIT A MINUTE, THERE'S A BETTER WAY, THEN YOU PULL THE TRIGGER.
UH, THAT IS THE WAY THE CONTRACT'S SET UP.
IT IS A FIVE YEAR CON E EVERY YEAR IT HAS TO BE EXTENDED.
SO IT HAS FOR ONE YEAR WITH FOUR ONE YEAR EXTENSION WAITING.
SO IT'S ALREADY SET UP THEN SET UP THAT, THAT'S GOOD.
THERE ISN'T A, A MOTION REQUIRED THEN, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT'S ALREADY DONE, CORRECT? YEAH, IT'S ALREADY IN THAT.
BUT THE MOTION IS TO TAKE IT TO THE FULL BOARD.
BUT I'M SAYING YOU WAS SAYING IT'S A PROCESS.
IF THEY DO THE RP, THAT'S YOUR PRO YOUR CURRENT PROCESS, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE TAKING IT TO THE FULL
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BOARD TO CHANGE THE CURRENT PROCESS.CAN THIS COMMITTEE ACTUALLY CHANGE THE WAY HE'S PUTTING OUT HIS MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS WITHOUT THE FULL BOARD OR WITHOUT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S INPUT? WE CAN ACTUALLY TELL MR. OTING, HEY, DON'T PUT OUT AN RFP.
THAT'S NOT, WE WANT TO COME IN HOUSE.
THE BOARD COULD THE BOARD COULD THIS COMMITTEE CANNOT YOU, COULD YOU RECOMMEND THE BOARD? AND I'M ONLY ASKED AS A NEW MEMBER, BECAUSE FROM ATTENDING SOME OF THESE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, THERE'S A LOT OF REACHING GOING ON IN CONVERSATIONS THERE SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE TELLING IS TELLING 'EM HOW TO DO THEIR JOB.
SO I REALLY JUST WANT TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THESE BABY AND HOW MUCH WE ARE IMPACTING THEIR DAY-TO-DAY WORK.
SEEMS A LITTLE 'CAUSE HER DOING THIS CONTRACT AT THIS, THIS WHOLE STUDY, AT THIS LATE TIME AND DAY, LIKE A WASTE OF HER TIME.
WELL, UH, SO I'M, I'M ONLY ASKING TO LEARN 'CAUSE I'M NEW HERE.
BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF REACHING THROUGH, THROUGH GO, UH, COHERENT GOVERNANCE.
OUR JOB IS TO OVERSEE POLICY AND, AND, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICY IS BEING, IS BEING FOLLOWED.
NOW WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, WE CAN AFFECT POLICY, RIGHT? BUT WE CAN ALSO INFLUENCE POLICY MM-HMM
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, UH, THEN WE HAVE TO TAKE IT TO THE FULL BOARD.
SO IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN HERE, THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS DECIDE, MAKE SURE, ASK QUESTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD TO TRY TO DO THE HI HERCULEAN EFFORT OF, UH, ANALYZING THE POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT MR. OT IS FOLLOWING THE POLICY, MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS BEING DONE IN THE, IN THE COMMITTEE BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO THE FULL BOARD.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT LEAVES SOME MORE MR. SMITH.
AND, AND, AND THEN ALSO TO ANSWER HER TO, UH, ANSWER TO SPEAK TO WHAT SHE'S SPEAKING ABOUT, WHAT SHE SAID OVER REACHING, ACTUALLY.
SO WHEN WE COME TO THESE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, ACTUALLY EVERY PERSON WHO COMES TO REPRESENT THE, UH, REVEREND'S HR, WHETHER IT'S UH, FACILITIES, WHETHER IT'S FINANCE, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT DR. RODRIGUEZ HAD, THEY HAVE, THEY, HE ASSIGNED THESE PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND SPEAK FOR HIM.
SO WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY'RE HERE SPEAKING, THEY'RE SPEAKING FOR HIM.
SO IF, SO WHEN WE ASK THESE QUESTIONS, IT'S NO D IT'S NO, IT'S NO DIFFERENT FROM FROM MINDSET.
IT'S FROM HIM BEING HERE AND ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS.
SO I, I DON'T THINK IT IS REACHING BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY'RE, THEY PROFESSIONALS IN, IN THESE DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO THEREFORE, IT IS LIKE, IT IS OUR JOB AS BOARD MEMBERS TO ASK THESE TO ASK SOME, SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERS BLOCK CONSTITUENTS.
AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HE HAS APPOINTED TO COME AND HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND SIT TO THE TABLE WITH US.
SO IT IS A FAR REACH, UH, 'CAUSE WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS TAKE, WE TAKE EVERYTHING BACK TO THE FULL BOARD TO AND MAJORITY OF TIME ALSO WHEN, WHEN HE'S THERE.
SO THE, SO, SO, SO, SO THEREFORE, UH, AT, AT THAT, AT THAT, AT THAT POINT, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, NOT ONLY IS AT THE BOARD MEETING, IS HE THERE? THESE PEOPLE ARE ARE ARE THERE TOO.
SO THEREFORE EVERY, EVERYTHING THAT IS TALKED THAT IS TALKED ABOUT, IT, IT, IT, IT COMES BACK FULL CIRCLE.
SO HE, HE, HE, SO WHEN HE WANTS THEM TO COME HERE AND LISTEN AND ASK THESE QUESTIONS, HOLD, HOLD ON A SECOND.
THERE'S STILL, UH, YOU MADE A MOTION.
SO MY, MY QUESTION REGARDING THE MOTION, OKAY, SO WE'RE PUTTING A MOTION OUT MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE FULL BOARD THAT THE R-F-R-F-P-B PUT OUT FOR ONE YEAR.
YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION FOR A PROCESS THAT'S ALREADY BEING DONE.
WHICH IS WHAT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO HANDLE RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT IS YOUR MOTION EXACTLY? WELL, MY MOTION WAS TO GO, TO GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND TAKE THE, UH, AND BA BASICALLY BASICALLY TO MOVE, TO MOVE FORWARD, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT WITH, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE RFP WAS GONNA GO OUT TO BE A YEAR NOT ASKING THE SAYING CHANGE, CHANGE THE RFP, BUT, BUT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT HEY, THE RFP WOULD BE, WOULD BE A YEAR.
SO THEREFORE WE WOULD, WE, WE WOULD STAY, WE WOULD STAY THE COURSE IF THAT, THAT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
THAT THAT WAS, THAT WAS, WE'RE STAYING THE COURSE.
SO DO YOU WANNA WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION? SEE? RIGHT, RIGHT.
THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
SO THERE, SO BA SO BASICALLY AT THIS POINT IN TIME, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, SO THERE IS NOTHING, THERE, NO DISCUSSION NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE WITH THE FULL BOARD WOULD BE MY QUESTION.
BECAUSE TH THAT, THAT, THAT WAS MY POINT OF BRINGING IT TO THE, UH, TO THE FULL BOARD.
THERE, THERE BE DISCUSSION THERE, THERE STILL IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSION TO THE FULL BOARD BECAUSE THE FULL BOARD'S GONNA HAVE TO, UH, UH, TO DECIDE OR APPROVE THE, THE CONTRACT ANYWAYS.
SO WHEN WE OPEN IT, IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT UP FOR OUR, OR LET IT GO OUT FOR RFP, UH, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S A ONE YEAR CONTRACT AND THAT'S ALREADY THE CASE.
ONE YEAR CONTRACT WITH FOUR ONE YEAR RENEWALS, THEN THAT COVERS WHAT YOU WANT.
AND THEN ONCE IT GOES TO THE FULL BOARD FOR THERE, THERE WILL BE A, A, A
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MOTION IN A SECOND AND THEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS.AND AT THAT TIME, THE, THE BOARD CAN DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT.
NOW WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO DECIDE RIGHT NOW IS DO WE WANT TO BRING THE CONVERSATION TO THE BOARD ON WHETHER OR NOT TO KEEP IT, UH, AS A CONTRACT, TRY TO MOVE IT IN-HOUSE.
AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW IS THAT, THAT IT CAN'T BE, WE CAN'T HAVE THAT DISCUSSION TO THE BOARD UNTIL MARCH 28TH AT THE EARLIEST OR APRIL 4TH, WHICH AT THAT POINT WE'RE GETTING WAY BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO FIND LABOR AND MOVE EVERYTHING THAT'S TOO, TOO SHORT OF A WINDOW.
'CAUSE OUR CONTRACT EXPIRES AT THE END OF JUNE.
WHICH GIVES US TWO MONTHS TO, TO FIND A WORKFORCE IF WE WAIT THAT LONG TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.
I'M IN AGREE, I'M IN AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I JUST WAS, I JUST WAS LOOKING, I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR, UH, WHEN WE WERE GONNA TO DISCUSS THIS PRIOR TO THAT.
YEAH, I, I, UH, I DON'T, MR. DOUS NO, NO, SIR.
I, I I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME, UH, TO MOVE THIS IN-HOUSE THIS YEAR.
UH, IT'S A, SO I, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE JUST, WE WOULD STAY THE COURSE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, UH, AND, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, WITH, WITH, UH, THE ONE YEAR CONTRACT FOR ONE YEAR RENEWALS, UH, AND THEN REALLY SPEND A YEAR AS MR. DALLAS ALLUDED, UH, SPEND A YEAR DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT, UH, IF WE WANTED TO CONS CANCEL THE CONTRACT OR NOT.
IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? YES.
MR. DO, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR.
UH, MS. BOATWRIGHT, UH, MR. GORDON, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? YOU'VE, YOU'VE BEEN MR. QUIET, MR. GORDON, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY OR NO? SMALL.
EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING MOVING RIGHT ALONG THERE.
MR. SMALL, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, ANY INPUT? 3, 2, 1.
MR. CARR, YOU GOT ANYTHING? YOU GOOD? NO, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN IN A, A GOOD CONVERSATION AND I, I AGREE WITH THE CHAIR THAT, THAT THERE ARE TIMELINE IS REALLY LIMITING IN TERMS OF MAKING ANY CHANGE, BUT I THINK MOVING THE PROCESS FORWARD TO EXAMINE WHERE WE ARE OVER THE NEXT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS.
MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAL UPDATE IF YOU WILL, PLEASE.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS RATHER QUICKLY.
SO YEAH, WE HAVE TWO MORE, UM, AGENDA ITEMS AND I WANNA ALLOW SOME, UM, SOME THANK YOU MS, SOME TIME FOR THOSE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS. SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE HERE BEFORE YOU, WE PRESENTED, UM, TO YOU THE CUSTODIAL MAINTENANCE REPORT THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY.
UH, ON THE FIRST PAGE, UM, WE COMPLETED, UM, THE DISTRICT SIDE AND SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION, 133 INSPECTIONS.
WE HAD VENDORS COMPLETE 40 71 INSPECTION.
UH, YOU'LL SEE BELOW TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE THERE ARE HIGH AND LOW SCORE AVERAGES, UH, ACROSS THE DISTRICT IN THOSE VARIOUS, UH, PLACES AND LOCATIONS.
MOVING ON TO PAGE TWO, THE TOP SECTION, WE HAVE OUR, UH, THREE MONTH TRENDING.
UH, WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE AT OVERALL FOR OUR STAFF.
THE, OUR OVERALL STAFFING, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY PRETTY HIGH BETWEEN THE THREE VENDORS.
UM, FOR OUR OVERALL STAFFING, UM, ALL BEING OVER OUR 95 OR OUR 90% IS OUR CONTRACT.
WE DID REPORT, UH, GOING DOWN THE PAGE THREE DEFICIENCIES FOR, UM, BIKE GROUP AND FIVE DEFICIENCIES FOR A DM.
THOSE WERE DUE TO NON-COMPLIANCE CLEANING SPECIFICATIONS, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS HE DID AN INITIAL INSPECTION THAT FELL BELOW AN 88%.
AND UPON THAT, THAT RE-INSPECTION OF THAT SPACE, THAT SECOND INSPECTION FELL BELOW 88%.
AGAIN, WARRANTED A NON-COMPLIANCE TO CLEANING SPECIFICATION.
UH, WE'RE GONNA JUST KEEP ON MOVING.
THERE WAS AN ASK AT OUR LAST COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, ABOUT, UH, PRESENTING BENEFITS AND WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE? SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UM, AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE TWO AND THE TOP OF PAGE THREE IS GIVE THE COMMITTEE A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT.
SO THAT FIRST SECTION, UM, UNDER BENEFIT OVERVIEW SHOWS SPECIFICALLY IT WAS PULLED DIRECTLY OUT OF THE CUSTODIAL CONTRACT.
AND IT IS THE MINIMUM OF WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT REQUIRED THE CONTRACTORS TO CARRY FOR VOLUNTARY BENEFITS AS WELL AS PAID TIME OFF.
UH, THEY JUST SAID IN THE, UH, I DON'T WANT YOU TO KEEP TALKING BECAUSE IT JUST SAID, THEY SAID THAT, UM, IN TWO MINUTES THE RECORDING IS GONNA STOP.
RIGHT? I THINK THAT WAS HER FIRE CALL.
I THINK THAT'S, UM, THAT'S NOT OKAY.
SO THAT TOP SECTION IS WHAT SPECIFICALLY IN OUR
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CONTRACT? THAT IS THE CONTRACT 10.THE, UM, GOING THROUGH TO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE TWO AND THE TOP OF PAGE THREE, WHAT WE DID IS PROVIDE YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT EACH VENDOR PROVIDES IN RELATION TO THEIR BASE BENEFITS FOR VOLUNTARY BENEFITS, AS WELL AS THEIR SUPPLEMENTAL BENEFITS FOR THEIR VACATION TIME, THEIR PAID TIME OFF.
THE OTHER THING THAT, UH, WE PUT IN HERE IN EACH VENDOR SUBSECTION IS THEIR RECOGNITION PROGRAM.
THERE WAS LANGUAGE, THERE IS LANGUAGE IN OUR CUSTODIAL CONTRACT THAT EACH VENDOR IS REQUIRED TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION PROGRAM.
BUT AS YOU MOVE THROUGH EACH VENDOR SECTION, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THEIR RECOGNITION PROGRAM, WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR THEIR WAYS TO CELEBRATE THEM.
SO I LOOK FOR CORRELATIONS AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE RED AND THEN I LOOK OVER AND SEE WHO IT APPEARS AS THE BEST BENEFIT PACKAGE LIKE BUD AND BUD LOOKS ON FRONT, THAT'S NO RED.
SO IS THAT TELLING US THAT THERE'S A CORRELATION BETWEEN BETTER BENEFIT PACKAGES, THE BETTER PERFORMANCE OF THAT PARTICULAR VENDOR? I WILL SAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT IS THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR CAME VERY STRONG IN WITH THEIR STARTUP PROCESS.
DURING OUR IMPLEMENTATION PERIOD.
THEY HAD MORE HANDS ON DESK, MORE REGIONAL AND CORPORATE, UH, BENEFIT PEOPLE.
THEIR SUPPORT AND HOW THEY'VE ROOTED THEIR ACCOUNT WITH THEIR UPPER LEVEL SUPPORT FROM A CORPORATE LEVEL HAS BEEN VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER TWO VENDORS.
UH, THEIR TRAINING PROGRAM IS, UM, MUCH HIGHER AS FAR AS THEIR EXPECTATIONS FOR TRAININGS AND WHAT THEY PROVIDE FOR DEVICES TO EMPLOYEES.
SO I WOULD SAY THEIR BUSINESS MODEL AND THEIR, HOW THEY'RE STRUCTURING THE CONTRACT DEFINITELY SHOWS THEM TO BE A LOT MORE SUCCESSFUL.
SO THE SECOND QUESTION IS, IS THERE A WAY, WITHOUT SORT OF WEAKENING THEIR COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE TO THE OTHER TWO, IS THERE A WAY TO RAISE THE STANDARD EXPECTATIONS WE HAVE IN TERMS OF BENEFITS? BUT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.
IDENTIFIED WHAT THE MINIMUM DID.
ROBERT ANSWERED THAT I WAS GONNA SAY KIND AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY, THE ONLY MECHANISM WE HAVE HERE IF, IF SOMEONE IS UNDERPERFORMING MM-HMM
IS TO NO LONGER CONTINUE WORKING WITH THEM.
AND THEN THERE THOSE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE BEING SUCCESSFUL WILL TAKE IT OVER.
SO IT'S KIND OF, UH, CONTRACT IS A, A COMPETE AND IF YOU FAIL, THE, THE WINNING COMPETITION WILL TAKE OVER YOUR CONTRACT.
WHAT IS THE IF I MAY, YES, PLEASE.
WHAT WHAT IS THE, UH, PERIOD WHEN YOU MAKE THAT GO? NO GO DECISION ON THE LEAST PERFORMING CONTRACT.
THERE IS NO AT ANY TIME WE CAN MAKE THAT, WELL, WE WOULD NEED TO GIVE THEM A NOTICE SECURE.
AND I THINK IS IT A 90 DAY NOTICE SECURE WE CAN SET THE AMOUNT OF DAYS, 60 TO 90 DAYS TYPICALLY FOR THEM TO DEVELOP, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A PLAN AND THEY HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN.
SO ONCE WE DECIDE THAT, UH, THERE'S A VENDOR THAT'S UNDERPERFORMING THAT WE'D LIKE TO PART WAYS WITH STEP ONE'S, A NOTICE TO CURE, TO NOTIFY THEM OF THAT, THEY HAVE A TIME PERIOD TO CORRECT IT.
IF THEY DON'T CORRECT IT, THEN WE WOULD PART WAYS WITH IT.
UH, I WON'T NAME CONTRACTORS, BUT IT MAY BE TIME YOU AN ASSESSMENT AND PULL THE TRIGGER BECAUSE IF YOU COULD SPREAD IT TO THE BEST PERFORMER MORE OUR SCORES WILL GO UP PROPERLY.
BUT BUSINESS ECHO, IF WE CAN GO DOWN THAT ROAD, IF THAT'S THE COMMITTEE'S DESIRE, I'M BOOK DELIBERATION.
SO THERE IS, UM, THERE IS CONTRACT LANGUAGE AND I CAN PULL IT AND PUT IT IN MY NEXT, UH, REPORT NEXT MONTH.
THERE IS SPECIFIC CONTRACT LANGUAGE THAT IS A SPECIFIC MEASUREMENT STANDARD FOR AN ANNUAL REVIEW THAT, UM, DIRECTLY SPEAKS TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH THERE'S A MEASUREMENT STANDARD THERE.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT MEETING THAT MEASUREMENT STANDARD BY THAT ANNUAL, UH, RENEWAL TIMEFRAME, THEN THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE CONVERSATION MAKING, UM, POTENTIAL CHANGES.
SO, TO MR. SMITH'S POINTS EARLIER, JUST, WELL, I LOOKED AT VERY QUICKLY WHAT LEVEL OF BENEFITS AND THE LEVEL OF PERFORMANCE AND, AND THAT'S INVERTED.
AND, AND I THINK WHAT BRANDY WAS KIND OF ALLUDING TO, WE'RE ALSO SEEING THERE'S EVEN MORE TO IT THAN THAT.
BUT, BUT TO YOUR POINT, YEAH, THERE ARE MORE FACTORS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING,
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BUT YOU CAN TELL WHO THE WINNERS AND THE LOSERS ARE.UH, MOVING THROUGH, WE'RE JUST GONNA GO, UM, CONTINUE DOWN TO PAGE THREE, RECOGNIZING SUCCESS.
SO I ALREADY SPOKE TO THE 90% OR GREATER.
WE HAD THAT OVERALL, UM, STAFFING ACHIEVEMENT.
UH, WE HAD BOTH OUR MAINTENANCE AND OUR CUSTODIAL CONTRACTORS ATTEND OUR SUMMER COORDINATION MEETING.
SO WE APPRECIATED THEIR PARTNERSHIP.
WE START IN FEBRUARY, AND WE'LL HAVE, UM, A HANDFUL OF MEETINGS UP THROUGH MAY TO GET NOT ONLY OUR CONTRACTOR SERVICE PROVIDERS, BUT OUR DISTRICT OFFICE STAFF, INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY, CONSTRUCTION.
WE ALL GET IN THE MEDIA CENTER AND WE JUST KIND OF TALK THROUGH WHAT DOES SUMMER CLOSURES LOOK LIKE, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT OUR PLANNING, WHAT'S OUR PLANNING GOING TO BE? SO BOTH OUR VENDORS, UM, CAME IN FOR THOSE MEETINGS AND PARTICIPATED WITH THAT.
UM, MOVING ON TO PAGE FOUR, THIS PAGE, WE JUST CAPTURED SOME SUCCESSES.
WE HAD A BM THAT, UM, DID A 10 YEAR, UM, SERVICE CERTIFICATE.
THEY HELPED US TRANSITION FROM OUR, OUR PREVIOUS WASTE PRO, UH, DISPOSAL PROVIDER TO OUR TWO NEW WASTE SERVICE PROVIDERS.
UH, WE HAD BUD GROUP THAT SHOWCASED SOME EMPLOYEES OF THE MONTH, AND THEN INTERSTATE PREMIER WHO FOCUSED ON, UH, SOME STAFF EDUCATION AND CREATING SOME MORE REFERENCE DOCUMENTS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE IN THE FIELD ACTUALLY COMPLETING THE SERVICES.
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON TO MAINTENANCE? NO.
UH, MAINTENANCE, UH, FIRST PAGE, WE GO THROUGH OUR, OUR DATA, WHERE WE'RE WORK ORDERS.
WE'VE GOT OUR WORK ORDERS IN PROGRESS.
WE'RE STILL PRETTY HIGH AT 5,596.
AS YOU MOVE DOWN THE PAGE, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THAT FAR RIGHT HAND COLUMN.
UM, OUR COMPLETION TOTALS FOR FEBRUARY.
IF YOU LOOK AT OUR THREE MONTH TREND, WE'RE STILL LOW.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE COMPLETED 1654.
IN PREVIOUS YEARS, WE WERE, UM, A LITTLE HIGHER.
IF YOU GO CONTINUE DOWN THAT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT PERCENT OF MAINTENANCE INITIATED WORK ORDERS.
THIS IS THE OTHER CATEGORY THAT I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT TO SEE HOW ACTIVE ARE OUR MAINTENANCE WORKERS IN OUR FACILITIES.
REALLY IDENTIFYING SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON.
UH, WE WERE TRENDING LOW LAST MONTH, AND WE'RE STARTING TO MOVE UP WITH GRAPH AND THAT PERCENTAGE.
SO WE THINK THAT, THAT, THAT TREND CONTINUES TO GO UP.
OUR NEXT THING WE FOCUS ON CRAFT.
SO THIS MONTH, UM, AS IN PREVIOUS MONTHS, WE HAVE HVAC AND PLUMBING WHERE OUR HIGH CRAFT CATEGORIES, UH, LEFT IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UM, HAD HVAC WORK ORDERS AT 16 THAT PUT THEM AT THE HIGHEST IN BROAD RIVER AT, UH, 16 OR, BUT WE'RE JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH OUR NEXT TWO PAGES.
WE FOCUSED ON OUR NORTH OF THE BROAD AND SOUTH OF THE BROAD WORK ORDER ASSIGNMENT DATA.
UH, YOU SEE OUR NORTH OF THE BROAD 5.0 5.03 DAYS.
SO WE ARE SEEING AN AVERAGE AGE OF COMPLETION INCREASE.
UH, BUT WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN OUR ZERO TO 14 DAYS TO COMPLETE GO UP TO 92% FOR NORTH OF ABROAD.
I'M GONNA MOVE TO SOUTH OF ABROAD AND SEE THAT YOU SEE THEIR INCREASE GO FROM THREE FIVE TO FOUR, A LITTLE OVER FOUR DAYS.
BUT WE ALSO SEE THERE COMPLETION TOTALS AT THE 93% WITHIN THE FIRST 14 DAYS.
HILTON HEAD ISLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WAS FEATURED FOR OUR, UH, SCHOOL BLITZ THAT WAS THEIR SOUTH OF THE BROAD BLITZ.
WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON THE NORTH OF THE BROAD SCHOOL NEXT MONTH.
AND WHILE THIS MONTH IN MARCH, UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY 39 WORK ORDERS COMPLETE 34.
THEY HAVE, WERE STILL PENDING.
UH, THESE PICTURES HERE SHOW YOU THEY DID IT ON SOME ASSEMBLY PROJECTS FOR SPED EQUIPMENT.
THE PICTURE TO THE LEFT IS ACTUALLY PICTURES OF A BALLAST REPLACEMENT.
AND ROBERT, WHEN HE SAW THIS REPORT, HE SAID, REALLY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THESE PICTURES.
WHY ARE YOU INCLUDING THESE? THEY'RE NOT REALLY LIKE, REPORT WORTHY.
AND I, WELL, THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.
SO THE REASON FOR THESE PICTURES ARE TO LET YOU GUYS SEE HOW THINGS GO WITH A VISUAL EXAMPLE FROM MAINTENANCE TO CAPITAL.
SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH OUR LIGHTING IS A LOT OF OUR LIGHTING THROUGHOUT OUR DISTRICT IS STARTING TO LEAK FIXTURES SUCH AS THESE, ONCE WE'VE REPLACED BULBS AND BALLS AND WE PIECEMEAL PARTS, WE GET TO A POINT WHERE OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT IDENTIFIES THAT, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN 50% OF THE SCHOOL, THEIR FIXTURES ACTUALLY NEED TO BE REPLACED.
WE CAN'T PIECEMEAL THEM ANYMORE.
SO THAT'S WHEN THIS TYPE OF PROJECT WILL THEN GET IDENTIFIED AND MOVED TO OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM.
UM, MOVING DOWN THE PAGE, MAINTENANCE, STAFFING, WE ARE STILL, I MEAN, WE REPORTED THE SAME FIGURE LAST MONTH, 87.5%.
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DOWN IN MAINTENANCE.SO THE, THE STRUGGLE TO RECRUIT AND FILL THESE POSITIONS, EVEN FOR OUR MAINTENANCE PROVIDER IS VERY PRESENT.
UM, AND HISTORICALLY WE'VE NOT SEEN THAT WITH OUR MAINTENANCE PROVIDER.
WELL, UM, MRS. BOATWRIGHT MADE A COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT OUR CTE PROGRAMS. UH, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, UH, ABOUT HOW DO WE BECOME A SELF LOOKING ICE CREAM CONE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, HOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE, UH, HOW DO WE, UH, UM, GROW OUR OWN, UH, HOW DO WE GROW OUR OWN, UH, MAINTENANCE PROVIDERS, YOU KNOW, AND IS THERE A TAKING SOMEBODY WITH, UH, AN, AN APPRENTICE PROGRAM COMING OUT OF, UH,
MR. OTTING HAS HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
WHEN WE MEET WITH MAINTENANCE WEEKLY, WHEN WE MEET WITH OUR, THEIR REGIONAL CORPORATE, UM, LEADERSHIP, AND WE HAVE OUR CLIENT BUSINESS REVIEWS WITH THEM QUARTERLY, WE HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND WE SAY, YOU NEED TO TAP INTO HIS TCL, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTTA TAP INTO OUR LO LOCAL EDUCATIONAL TRADE MARKETS AND, UM, OUR CTE PROGRAMS. AND, UM, IT COULD BE EXCUSES.
UM, WE'VE HEARD THAT THEY'VE TRIED AND THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT GETTING ANY MOMENTUM WITH THOSE PARTNERSHIPS.
I THINK, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT IS A VALUE.
UM, I WOULD ASK THAT, UM, IF THERE'S ANYONE ON THIS COMMITTEE OR EVEN THE BOARD THAT CAN MAYBE ASSIST WITH SUPPORTING THOSE PARTNERSHIPS.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT THERE'S MAYBE A BIGGER CONVERSATION HERE THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY, UM, ASK FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS TO CREATE THOSE, THOSE CONNECTIONS.
UM, AND THAT WAY WE CAN REALLY SHOW THAT TRYING TO REALLY COME TOGETHER, I, YOU KNOW, IS RESPONSIBILITY.
I MEAN, IT'S OUR MAINTENANCE VENDOR'S RESPONSIBILITY TO RECRUIT AND TO PROVIDE STAFFING FOR THE CONTRACT, BUT WOULD WE BE GOOD STEWARDS AND, AND FINDING THE ABILITY TO CREATE THOSE CONNECTIONS, POSSIBLY, ESPECIALLY GOING INTO A NEW CONTRACT.
MR. SMITH, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP? UH, YES.
UH, FIRST LEMME SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I ALWAYS
UM, MY QUESTION IS, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE PLUMBING.
THEY WERE, THERE WERE TWO PLACES WHERE PLUMBING WAS BARBER AND SOMEONE ELSE FOCUS IN UNDER OUR CRAFT SECTION.
UM, AND THEN IN OUR RECOGNIZING EXPRESS, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
THERE WAS, THERE'S A FOCUS ON, WE'RE USING THAT BEACON ALERT SYSTEM FOR OUR, UH, WATER LEAKS.
AND WE DO REPORT THAT
AND, AND, AND, AND SO YOU ALLUDED THAT, YOU ALLUDED IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE GOING ON AT BROAD, AT BROAD RIVER ELEVATED.
THEY HAD, THEY HAD THE MOST, UH, WORK ORDERS THEY DID.
AND SO MY, SO MY QUESTION IS, UM, WHAT DOES THAT, IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UM, WHAT'S THE, LIKE HOW, HOW, HOW DO WE, HOW, HOW, HOW, HOW DO WE IDENTIFY WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? BECAUSE IF THEY, HAVING ALL THE SCHOOL, IF THEY'RE HAVING, THEY'RE HAVING A LARGE AMOUNT OF WORK ORDERS, THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME THINGS GOING ON.
AND, AND, AND, AND, AND WHAT WE DO TO SPOTLIGHT THAT TO, UH, TO, OR, OR, OR DID WE AHA.
BASICALLY WHAT WAS OUR ACTION? SO BASICALLY, UM, WHAT WE DID WAS PULL THE REPORT TO SEE, SO THOSE THAT CRAFT CATEGORY 211 WORK ORDERS REQUESTED.
SO WHAT WE DID IS SCHOOL IS 211 OUT OF THOSE, WHAT SCHOOL HAD THE HIGHEST.
SO THEN ONCE WE PULLED THAT DATA, AND I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE DATA TO SEE, OKAY, WHAT DID, ARE THESE 16 MORE, YOU KNOW, BROAD RIVER HAD THE HIGHEST ARE, UM, UH, ARE THESE WORK ORDERS THAT WERE JUST PLUMBING FIXTURE CHANGE OUTS? UM, AND SO IF YOU READ THROUGH THE ANALYSIS, THERE WERE, UM, THERE WAS THE WATER LEAK THAT HAD A LOT OF THE WORK ORDER COUNTS GO UP.
UM, BECAUSE WHENEVER MAINTENANCE GOES OUT TO DO WORK, EVEN IF THE SCHOOL HASN'T SUBMITTED A WORK ORDER, THAT TECHNICIAN OR THAT SUPERVISOR WILL PUT A WORK ORDER IN BECAUSE WE NEED TO TRACK THOSE LABOR HOURS.
UM, SO A LARGE PART OF BROAD RIVER, WERE IDENTIFYING THAT WATER IN THE COURTYARD.
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YOU CAN SEE HERE, READING THROUGH, WE HAD, UM, A SINK DRAIN THAT WAS CLOGGED.THERE WERE FLUSHED OFF REPLACEMENTS THAT WE DID IT IN, AS WELL AS TOILET SEAT REPLACEMENTS.
UM, SO ALL THOSE WORK ORDERS WERE EVALUATED AND THEN MAINTENANCE GOES UP, THEY DO THE REPAIRS, AND THEN THEY COMPLETE THE WORK ORDERS.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YOU DID ANSWER MY QUESTION.
BA BA BASICALLY, UH, TO BASICALLY THE, THE, THE QUE THE QUESTION WAS THERE WAS A RECURRING LARGE AMOUNT, UH, UH, THERE A, A LARGE AMOUNT OF PROBLEMS OCCURRING AT BROAD RIVER.
AND SO BASICALLY, HOW DID WE TROUBLESHOOT BASICALLY, UH, WHO, WHERE, WHAT, WHEN, WHY, HOW, WHAT WERE THOSE ISSUES? YOU TOLD ME IN YOUR ANSWER, YOU BASICALLY TOLD ME WHAT THOSE ISSUES WERE.
SO BASICALLY YOU, YOU WENT AND SEEN WHY WAS THERE A LARGE AMOUNT OF WORK ORDERS AT, AT THAT SCHOOL AND, AND, AND WHAT IT WAS.
AND, AND THAT WAS THAT, THAT WAS BASICALLY MY QUESTION.
AND NOW I UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT, WHAT THOSE WORK WERE.
AND BECAUSE I GOT, UM, I JUST ASKED, I KNOW THAT THAT IS AN OLDER BUILDING, AND SO SOMETIMES THEY MAY HAVE SOME DIFFERENT OCCURRING ISSUES.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THOSE ARE OCCURRING ISSUES WERE OR WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY'RE SIMPLE.
SO THAT WAS, THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY REAL QUESTION SAYING.
THAT CONCLUDES, YEAH, MR. CHAIR AND, UH, MS. MAJORS, UH, YOU ASKED ABOUT, UH, I, MR. IS MR. SMALL STILL ON? YEAH.
I'M ON MR. SMALL, YOU ARE ON THE BOARD FOR ACT, UH, BE FOR JASPER A.
SO MR. SMALL AND ONE OTHER BOARD MEMBER CAN PROBABLY HELP, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT ONE.
AND OF COURSE, ANY OF US, I DEFER TO THE CHAIR IN TERMS OF THE CTE PROGRAM, THAT THE BEFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT SCHOOL, UM, THAT'S MONEY.
BUT THAT COULD BE LIKE A PROGRAM FOR STUDENTS.
I KNOW IT'S OVER TWO YEARS FOR ELECTRICIAN STILL, BUT MM-HMM
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT'LL BE TAP INTO FOR ELECTRICITY ALONE.
WE HAVE TO SPEAK UP SO THE OTHER PEOPLE CAN HEAR YOU.
SO I TRY TO, 'CAUSE I HAVE A BIG MOUTH, I'M, OR I HAVE, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE PROJECTING, SO I TRY TO KEEP IT LOW SO PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE I YELL AT THEM.
SO I TRY TO DO MORE LIKE A WHISPER.
SO NOBODY TAKES ME AS BEING ANGRY OR COMING AT THEM.
SO I APOLOGIZE FOR, I'LL DO BETTER TEACHING TECHNIQUES.
I CAN REACH YOU DOWN AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY
I WAS JUST SAYING THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STUDENT.
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, ELECTRICIANS ALONE ARE GETTING PAID TODAY WOULD BE AMAZING.
ALL THE SKILLED LABOR IS ON THE LIST.
BUT THEN AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE YEARS IN DEVELOPMENT, SOMEBODY PUTTING TOGETHER A PROGRAM OR WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO TAP INTO THEM.
UM, WELL, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS LIABILITY INSURANCE AS FAR AS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN APPRENTICE TYPE PROGRAM WITH STUDENTS MM-HMM
UM, I AM, WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMEONE THE OTHER DAY TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY WE'RE WANTING TO DO THE SAME THING AT ANOTHER DISTRICT, HOW THEY COULDN'T GET STARTED.
I'M NOT AWARE OF A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM THAT'S DONE THAT I'D BE REALLY INTERESTED IF THERE'S ONE OUT THERE, BUT I KNOW THE INSURANCE LIABILITY IS A BIG ROADBLOCK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT GOING FORWARD.
WE WERE IN A MEETING JUST ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO, TWO MONTHS.
AND WE HAD THE, UH, GENTLEMAN WHO REPRESENTS THE APPRENTICE PROGRAM, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM FOR THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
AND HE INFORMED US THAT THERE'S A $6,000 TAX CREDIT FOR A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE THAT ENROLLS IN THAT APPRENTICESHIP.
SO THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS, IS THERE SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR PUBLIC? AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING BECAUSE SOUTH CAROLINA, THE STATE OF CAROLINA HAS AN APPRENTICESHIP, UH, DIRECTION.
SO MAYBE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TODAY.
TODAY, HOPEFULLY TOMORROW AS WELL.
I MEAN, IF YOU GIVE US THAT CONTACT, WE CAN JUST REACH OUT AND SEE IF HE'S AWARE OF ANY PUBLIC, UM, INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE, ESPECIALLY SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
'CAUSE THAT'S MY, IT COMES UP A LOT.
I'VE JUST NOT HEARD OF IT BEING SUCCESSFUL.
THAT INSTRUCTIONAL SIDE THINGS THEY'VE TRIED TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE HAPPEN.
I WAS TELLING HER WE CAN TALK ABOUT AN ACADEMIC COMMITTEE
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TOMORROW.SO WHAT AM I LOOKING AT? ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR CUSTODIAL MAINTENANCE? MR. SMALL, MR. GORDON, ANYTHING? UH, FOR CUSTODIAL MAINTENANCE? I'M SORRY, MR. CARR? OH NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.
I'M GOOD WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S SAID.
I THINK WE NEED TO, UM, REALLY LOOK FORWARD INTO THE IN-HOUSE SITUATION.
'CAUSE I, UM, I LOOKED UP, 'CAUSE I WAS, IN MY MIND, I WAS TALKING, I'VE HAD MY CDL FOR THE LAST 32 YEARS AND I THINK IT'S LIKE ONE OTHER COUNTY IN BEAUFORT IN SOUTH CAROLINA THAT DOES THAT HAS A PROGRAM FOR, UM, YOUTH GETTING, UM, ATTAINING THEIR, UM, CDL PERMITS, YOU KNOW, AS THEY'RE GETTING OUTTA SCHOOL.
SO, UM, YEAH, EVEN IF IT TAKES THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO GET STARTED.
UH, MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT IMPROVEMENT DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS KIND WRAPS UP EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH MAINTENANCE AND THE RFP BECAUSE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME THAT BROUGHT THIS FORWARD IS SOME OF THE CHANGES WE'RE MAKING TO THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS.
WHAT ARE WE DOING DIFFERENT AS THIS IS COMING OUT? SO I, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TWO OF THE SAME PRESENTATIONS AND THE REASON WHY IS ONE IS AN UPDATED VERSION.
ONE IS THE ORIGINAL VERSION THAT WE PRESENTED IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
AND ESPECIALLY THIS WAS FOR NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
THIS TALKED ABOUT ALL THE CHALLENGES WE HAD WITH HVAC AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE STRUGGLES WE'RE HAVING AND SOME OF THE STRUGGLES THROUGHOUT NATION AND, AND ISSUES GOING ON.
AND WHAT I DID IS TOOK THE UPDATED ONE, HAS THE MARKED THROUGH VERSIONS.
I MEAN, IT HAS THE MARKED THROUGH LINES ON THE AGENDA.
SO IT JUST TALKS ABOUT THE SLIDES THAT WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS OUT OF THAT LAST PRESENTATION.
IT'S KIND OF UPDATES ONE ON WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE NOVEMBER THAT'S COMING OUT IN THIS RFP AS SOON AS WE CAN GET IT ON THE STREET.
I KINDA LEFT THE FIRST SLIDE OUT THERE.
THE KEY CHALLENGES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, TRANSITION FROM R 22 AND REFRIGERANTS AND NEW REFRIGERANTS CAME ONLINE IN JANUARY, WHICH EVERYBODY'S HAVING TO RETOOL ADAT, UM, AND RETRAIN ON HOW TO ADDRESS ANY NEW, UH, SYSTEMS BEING INSTALLED.
TALKED ABOUT HOW WE UPDATED OUR FOR IE FOR INDOOR AIR QUALITY.
UH, EVERY UNIT THAT WE'RE INSTALLING NOW HAS BIPOLAR IONIZATION SYSTEMS AND HOW THAT HELPS IMPROVE INDOOR AIR QUALITY.
SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN DETAIL, OUR MAINTENANCE STRUGGLES WITH UNDERPERFORMING PM PROGRAM AND OUR DIFFICULTY IN HIRING PERSONNEL, SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HVAC SYSTEMS, YOU'LL WANT THE NEXT SLIDE, FUTURE GOALS.
UM, SO OUR WHOLE GOAL HERE IS WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS TO IMPROVE OUR WORKFORCE QUALITY AND TRAINING AND OUR MAINTENANCE PRACTICES.
WHAT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY IN THE RFP PROCESS AND HOW THIS CONTRACT IS STRUCTURED.
YOU KNOW, WE LEARNED, WE SAW HOW THE CONTRACT FORMAT REALLY HELPED OUR CUSTODIAL CONTRACTS AND WE'RE HOPING TO DO THE SAME THING WITH THE MAINTENANCE PRO UH, CONTRACT.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, OUR MAIN THING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSING ON IS IMPROVING PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE, UH, THROUGH THE CONTRACT STRUCTURE.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE I FLIP IT THE RIGHT WAY BACK TURN.
SO, UH, THE MAIN THING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS TO DEVELOP THAT CONTRACTOR SCOPE OF WORK, AND WE'RE DEVELOPING THAT SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE RFP AND THEN HOW WE'RE RESTRUCTURING THE MAINTENANCE PAR, UH, DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE, WE'VE MET ALREADY WITH THE HVAC TEAM TWO TIMES, AND WE HAVE A THIRD TIME COMING WHERE, AND I, AND WE'VE MET WITH, UM, THE A BM CORPORATE TEAM.
WE'VE MET WITH THE LOCAL SUPERVISORS AND WE'VE KIND OF PUT FORWARD OUR PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT.
AND WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS BETWEEN, WE ACTUALLY STARTED THIS IN FEBRUARY AND BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND JUNE IS MAKE THIS TRANSITION.
SO WHEN THE NEW CONTRACT IS IN PLACE, EVERYTHING'S GOING FULL SPEED AND WE'VE ALREADY MADE THESE CHANGES.
I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS.
SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS, IS OUR CURRENT MAINTENANCE ORG CHART.
BASICALLY, UM, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE DIRECTOR, AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, AND THEN THERE ARE FOUR
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MANAGERS.YOU HAVE A NORTH ABROAD MANAGER THAT HANDLES ALL THE TRADES NORTH ABROAD.
THE SOUTH ABROAD MANAGER HANDLES ALL THE TRADES.
SOUTH ABROAD, YOU HAVE A PM MANAGER THAT HANDLES THE NIGHT CREWS, AND THEN YOU HAVE AN HVAC MANAGER THAT HAS 10 TECHNICIANS UNDER THEM.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA CHANGE IS BASICALLY THE HVAC SIDE WE'RE LOOK, AND YOU ALSO HAD A, A WAREHOUSE, UM, THAT MANAGED THE WAREHOUSE.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PUTTING, NUMBER ONE, PUTTING THE WAREHOUSE CLERK UNDER THE HVAC MANAGER TO FOCUS MORE ON HVAC, ORDERING AND HAVING SUPPLIES IN PLACE FOR PM.
WE'VE RESTRUCTURED THE, BOTH THE PM CREW AND THE HVAC CREW SO THAT THERE IS AN HVAC SUPERVISOR NORTH AND SOUTH.
UM, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A DAY LEAD THAT WILL ASSIST THEM.
SO BASICALLY THE STAFF THAT YOU HAVE DURING THE DAY WILL BE A, THE HVAC MANAGER, YOUR TWO SUPERVISORS, AND THEN YOUR TWO LEADS.
AND THEIR MAIN PURPOSE IS GOING TO BE TO PUT OUT FIRES.
UM, AND IF THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT, UH, TAKES LONGER THAN A COUPLE HOURS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TO TRIAGE A PROBLEM.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, WE RECENTLY WENT OUT TO BID FOR HVAC CONTRACTORS THAT WILL THEN FIX PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE.
THEY'RE GONNA FOCUS ON, UM, UH, TRIAGING ANY PROBLEMS AND, AND SEEING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND BRINGING CONTRACTORS TO FIX IT.
WHAT THEY ARE FOCUSING ON IS, UH, DEVELOPING PROGRAMS FOR THE PM PROGRAMS. THE WHOLE FOCUS HERE IS TO FOCUS MORE ON PMS, UH, MAKE SURE THAT ALL OUR EQUIPMENT IS IN TOP-NOTCH CONDITION.
AND THEN THE THOUGHT IS, AND IN RECOGNIZING PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY OCCUR.
AND THEN THE THOUGHT IS YOU'LL HAVE LESS PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, SO WE'VE BECOME MORE NIGHT FOCUSED IN THAT.
YOU HAVE A LEAD NIGHT PERSON THAT IS AN HVAC TECH NORTH ABROAD AND SOUTH ABROAD.
YOU ALSO HAVE A PERSON THAT GOES BETWEEN NIGHT AND DAY SO THAT THEY'RE THERE TO, UM, UH, MAKE ANY TRANS.
IF A CONTRACTOR'S WORKING DURING THE DAY, IT CONTINUES ON THROUGH THE NIGHT.
THEY'RE THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT TRANSITION GOES SMOOTHLY.
AND THEN ALL YOUR PM TECHS THAT WERE PER, UH, PREVIOUSLY NOT UNDER THE HVAC MANAGER, WHICH SEEMS, I DON'T, I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'VE GONE THAT LONG.
THEY'RE UNDER THE HVAC MANAGER.
AND THEN THOSE DAILY LEADS ARE GONNA BE DOING QAQC.
SO SEEING WHAT'S DONE AT NIGHT, UM, CHECKING IT DURING THE DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE COILS THAT THEY SAID WERE CLEANED ARE CLEANED.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, BELTS CHANGED ALL THAT.
THEY'RE THERE TO TRAIN QAQC, THE WORK OF THE NIGHT CREWS.
AND SO WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND THEY'RE ALREADY STARTING TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION TO THIS TYPE OF LAYOUT.
UM, ANYTHING I MISSED THERE, FRANKIE? NO, I THINK YOU'VE CAPTURED EVERYTHING.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE PUTTING AS A, UH, AS OUR STRUCTURE FOR OUR UPCOMING CONTRACT.
WE ARE ASKING FOR SUGGESTIONS FROM, UM, THE, THE PROPOSERS, HOW THEY WOULD RESTRUCTURE.
WE'RE ASKING THEM TO PRICE IT BASED ON THIS STRUCTURE AND THEN IF THEY HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE STRUCTURE IN PRICING TO PROVIDE THAT.
AND THESE ARE, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE, UM, ADDING TO THESE CONTRACT PENALTIES ARE WHAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE CONTRACT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PENALTIES BEFORE.
SO JUST LIKE WE HAVE A CUSTODIAL, IF THERE'S INSUFFICIENT STAFFING, THERE'S PENALTIES, UM, THERE'S DIFFERENCES BETWEEN HOURLY STAFFING AND, AND MANAGEMENT.
THEY'RE BASICALLY GIVING 30 DAYS, UH, TO REPLACE A MANAGEMENT POSITION AND THEN A PENALTY GOES IN PLACE.
HOURLY STAFFING, UM, THEY BASICALLY NEED TO MAINTAIN THE HOURLY STAFFING AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
OR THEY'RE CHARGED THE, UH, AN HOURLY WAGE FOR NOT HAVING SOMEONE THERE.
YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO STAFF AND THERE'S LIMITED THINGS WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
THIS WILL PUT A FINANCIAL PENALTY ON THEM IF THEY AREN'T KEEPING THEIR STAFFING NUMBERS UP.
UM, JUST LIKE CUSTODIAL, UH, NON-COMPLIANCE WITH HVAC SYSTEMS BEING DOWN OR NOT WORKING.
IF A CLASSROOM IS NOT ABLE TO BE OCCUPIED DUE TO AN HVA C'S PROBLEM, THAT'S A PRETTY HEFTY FINE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE.
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IF, IF THEY CALL OUT A CONTRACTOR TO A BROKEN SYSTEM AND THEY LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WELL THIS DOESN'T WORK 'CAUSE A COUM, AND THEN THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, A PLUMBING SYSTEM'S DOWN FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
THEY HAVE TO RESPOND, UH, WITHIN, UH, 24 HOUR.
THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS, BUT UM, THERE'S PENALTIES FOR NOT RESPONDING WITH THOSE TIME PERIODS OF 28, 4 HOURS OR 48 HOURS DEPENDING ON THE CERTAIN TYPE.
TRYING TO THINK WHAT A DOORS AND LOCKS, UH, FAILED SYSTEMS THAT AREN'T REPAIRED DURING A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD.
ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE, IF WE'RE HIT WITH ANY KIND OF PENALTIES, THERE WILL BE FINES WITH THAT OR IF ANY OF THE LIFE SAFETY SYSTEMS AREN'T FUNCTIONING THOSE.
SO THAT'S A REAL QUICK RUNDOWN OF HOW WE'RE CHANGING OUR CONTRACT FORMAT FOR MAINTENANCE.
WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE YOU QUESTION EXACTLY, HAD SOME OVERVIEW, NOT GETTING DOWN INTO THE WEEDS OF IT.
BUT ANY QUESTIONS, ANYBODY ONLINE? MR. SMALL, MR. GORDON? MR. CARR? THIS IS PASTOR GORDON.
PRETTY EXCITED TO SEE WHERE THIS GOES.
SO, I MEAN, I LIKE YOUR PHILOSOPHY OF CHECKING, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD THE WHOLE CONVERSATION OF, YOU KNOW, REVISITING THIS, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO GIVE THE CONTRACT FORMAT A LITTLE TIME TO TAKE HOLD AND SEE THE IMPACT, THESE CHANGES ON THE CONTRACT.
ALRIGHT, MR. SMITH? NO, I WAS GONNA SAY, I, I MEAN I'LL TAKE SOME TIME AND LOOK AT THIS, BUT TONIGHT I'M JUST, I AIN'T GOT, SO ALSO THE MEETING I MAY, BUT TONIGHT I'M DONE WITH IT.
INSTRUCTION UPDATE AUGUSTINE VARGAS.
I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, BUT IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, FEEL FREE TO ASK.
I'LL BE THE JUDGE OF THAT, BUT ALL RIGHT,
SO FOR OUR CONSTRUCTION UPDATES THROUGH THE END OF FEBRUARY ON THE 2019 BOND REFERENDUM, WE ARE SHOWING THE PROJECTS ARE WITH BIG TRAFFIC LIGHTS OF BUDGETED SCHEDULE FOR THE REMAINING PROJECT CLOSEOUTS.
WE ARE CURRENTLY SITTING AT 23 PROJECTS.
UH, WE HAVE A TOTAL 209 FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS COMPLETED DATE.
MOVING ON TO THE FINANCIAL UPDATE FOR REGIONAL BUDGET, STILL HASN'T BEEN UNCHANGED.
SO OF 375.71 MILLION PAY AND COMMITTED FUNDS TO DATE ARE AT 373.24 MILLION OR ROUGHLY 99.34% OF THE PROGRAM.
UH, WE HAVE A REMAINING AVAILABLE FUNDS, INCLUDING ENCY OF 2.47.
NOW ON CONTINGENCY ACTIVITY, WAS THERE A QUESTION? I'M SORRY.
ALRIGHT, I GUESS, UH, CONTINGENCY ACTIVITY FOR FEBRUARY INCLUDED THE SAVINGS RETURN OF $997,000.
THAT IS FROM ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE NEAR AND CLOSE THAT WERE STARTING TO RECEIVE RETURNS OF SAVINGS.
WE DID HAVE A USE OF $660,000 FOR THE MONTH.
THE CONTINGENCY REMAINING AT THE END OF FEBRUARY, UH, IS ABOUT $1.27 MILLION.
AND WE DO EXPECT THAT THAT FIGURE IS GONNA CONTINUE TO INCREASE 1.27.
I'M SORRY,
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO WANT TO SEGUE INTO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS SLIDE 15, WHICH IS THE BOND REFERENDUM SUGGESTED ITEMS. AND THAT IS A LIST OF THE ITEMS THAT, UH, GOD, PARISH DEPARTMENT, WE'VE HAD INPUT AS WELL FROM MY TEAM AND OTHER DEPARTMENT SALES, UH, ON ITEMS THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO, UH, 8% CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, BUT THAT ARE RELATED TO 2019 MONTH REFERENDUM.
AND WE DISCUSSED THIS PREVIOUSLY WITH THE CLOCK.
UH, SO WE, WE'VE COMPILED THAT LIST AND ON THAT LIST WE HAVE PRIORITIZED, UH, FROM HIGH TO LOW TO, LET ME DO THIS REAL QUICK.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE $1.27 MILLION IN CONTINGENCY SALES.
SO WE'RE SEEING THE POTENTIAL OF THAT GROWING CLOSER TO 3 MILLION OR HIGH HERE.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS PUT A LIST OF PROJECTS TOGETHER KIND OF IN A PRIORITY ORDER FROM TOP TO BOTTOM ON WHERE WE SUGGEST THAT MONEY BE SPENT.
SO ON, ON SOME OF THESE TOP PRIORITIES, AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE PLAYGROUNDS, HVAC, AND ON THE PLAYGROUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE, C ELEMENTARY, THE PLAY, UH, COURTYARD PLAYGROUND ON THE PRE-K, THAT ITEM IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE 8% LIST, BUT IS A NEED.
UH, THE FACILITY'S CURRENTLY NOT IN THE BEST
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OF SHAPE AND IS, I MEAN, IF WE CAN MOVE SOME OF THAT AND SPEND SOME OF THAT REFERENDUM MONEY, IT WOULD BE IDEAL.A LOT OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT WE DID, ALL WE UH, DID WAS MOSTLY PLAY, UH, PLAY FIELDS.
AND I THINK IF WE CAN BRING SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS UP TO PAR, IT WOULD BE A GOOD USE OF THE MONEY.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WE'RE SUGGESTING HERE.
UM, CAN ARE YOU SAYING USE THAT MONEY AT, AT THE SCHOOL? IT WAS INITIALLY TARGETED BUT ON A DIFFERENT PROJECT AT THAT SAME SCHOOL, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE COULDN'T MOVE THE REFERENDUM MONEY FROM ONE SCHOOL TO ANOTHER.
THAT THAT'S NOT, SO THE REFERENDUM MONEY WAS NOT DEDICATED TO SCHOOLS.
I MEAN, SO YOU MAY BE THINKING, UH, MORE 8%.
BUT AS FAR AS REFERENDUM MONEY GOES, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE SAFETY AND SECURITY WAS A LARGE NUMBER.
AND IT WAS FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF SCHOOLS.
SO THERE, I MEAN, YES, WE HAD A BUDGET WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW, BUT THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT LIMITS WHERE THAT MONEY GOES.
AND AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC'S APPROVAL OF IT, THEY APPROVED THE, THE ITEM TO BE A NUMBER TO BE SPENT FOR ALL THESE ITEMS. SO THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE FEEL FALLS IN THOSE CATEGORIES THAT IF WE WANNA STAY WITHIN KIND OF WHAT THE BOUNDS OF THE REFERENDUM ARE, THESE ITEMS FIT THAT BILL.
AND SO WE SPEND THE MONEY THAT'S COMING BACK FOR ITEMS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN FUNDED BY REP THE REFERENDUM THAT'S CORRECT.
IS THAT, BUT THEY WERE PLAYGROUND SPECIFICALLY? WE SAID PLAYGROUND.
ALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WILL GET THEIR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
WELL GENERAL, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD MEAN, YOU KNOW, GENERAL THEY GOT, YOU KNOW, THAT MUCH AND SO THERE WERE STILL NEEDS.
BUT LIKE THE CUSA PLAYGROUND WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE COVERED.
BUT NOW THAT THERE'S FUNDS LEFT, WE CAN'T SPEND IT ON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PLAYGROUNDS.
'CAUSE IT WAS LISTED AS SUCH IN THE REFERENDUM AND IT ISN'T NEED YET.
AND RIGHT NOW WE DID ASK MS. CROSBY IF SHE COULD JUST CONFIRM WITH ON COUNCIL THAT THE SPEND, USE, SO WE ARE WAITING FOR A RESPONSE ON THAT SO THAT WE CAN THEN PROCEED.
SO DUNNO IF YOU WANT ME TO GO DOWN THROUGH THE LIST OR, UH, I MEAN IT WAS IN THE PRE-READ.
I WENT THROUGH IT, UH, UM, UH, A LOT OF THE STUFF, SO LIKE, ESPECIALLY LIKE IN THE DISTRICT, I SAID NO, LIKE IN THE, THE SCHOOLS HAVE GOT THOSE LITTLE MONITORS UP THERE THAT THE CLOCKS, YES.
UH, ARE THEY NEEDED HERE AT THE DISTRICT? I MEAN THAT'S, WELL THAT'S A VERY, THAT'S BEEN A TOPIC WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND WE ACTUALLY HAD FUNDING FOR THAT THAT WAS NOT USED.
AND PART OF THAT WAS BECAUSE THE REF, THE UH, NOT ABOUT THE RENOVATION RENOVATION'S BEEN HELD UP.
AND WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE CAN DO ANY KIND OF INSTALL THAT NATURE IS TO DO ALL THE TECHNOLOGY CLOSET UPGRADES AND THAT HAS TO OCCUR WITH THE RENOVATION.
SO IF WE WERE GONNA DO THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT IN CONCERT WITH THE RENOVATION WORK BUILDING.
BUT FOR THOSE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS DISTRICT DISTRICT WIDE, THAT'S WHAT WE HAD SUGGESTED.
IF TECHNOLOGY NEEDS TO HAVE A SURPLUS OF THESE ITEMS IN CASE THAT THEY DO UH, BREAK DOWN, THEY CAN HAVE IT RIGHT AVAILABLE TO JUST GO AND SWAP OUT THESE.
SO IF KIDS ARE THROWING BALLS IN THE HALLWAY AND CRACK A SCREEN, WE CAN GO, OKAY, I GOT YOU.
THIS IS WHAT WE CALL ATTIC STOCK.
YOU KIND OF KEEP ON SUPPLY SO WHEN THINGS BREAK YOU JUST, YOU ALREADY HAVE.
SO NOT TO BE INSTALLED AT THE DI NO.
I WAS JUST GONNA REITERATE WHAT ROBERT WAS SAYING.
MR. OTTING WAS SAYING, UM, MOST OF THIS IS SPARE.
SO IF A, UM, TAKE FOR INSTANCE IF CLASSROOM SPEAKERS GO OUT OR UM, SOME, UM, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT AMPS THAT ARE IN THE CLASSROOM, WHAT HAPPENS IS WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT DOWN AND THEN RMA IT BACK TO THE MANUFACTURER AND WAIT ON A REPLACEMENT.
AND AS YOU KNOW, IN THESE TIMES IT CAN TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 10 DAYS OR IT COULD TAKE FOUR WEEKS.
SO IN ORDER TO NOT HAVE LOST EDUCATION TIME, WE GO AHEAD AND SWAP THAT OUT WITH STOCK AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE.
WHAT'S AN EPIC KIOSK? THAT IS THE ACTUAL PA SYSTEM.
SO THAT'S THE ACTUAL, UH, WHEN YOU GO TO THE FRONT OFFICE OF THE SCHOOL AND YOU SEE THAT MONITOR THAT SHOWS THE SCHOOL'S MAP, THAT IS WHAT COMMUNICATES WITH THE PA SYSTEM.
SO IF SOMEBODY TRIGGERS AN ALERT OR SOMEBODY DOES A CALL FROM THE ROOM, IT'LL SHOW WHICH ROOM IT'S COMING FROM.
THEY CAN PUT THE WHOLE BUILDING
I WAS JUST ASKING QUESTIONS, SO PLEASE MOVE ON.
LY UH, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS LIST AS WELL, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SHOWING THE TIMEFRAMES FOR COMPLETION BECAUSE THAT'S ONE THING THAT AS WE'RE TRYING TO PULL THIS PROGRAM OUT, THIS COULD POTENTIALLY
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HOLD UP SOME OF THIS EFFORT.AND THAT'S WHAT WE SUGGESTED THAT YOU GUYS GIVE US SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS, SOME OF THESE ITEMS AS YOU'RE SEEING WE'RE, UH, LIKE THE PLAYGROUNDS, HEY, THIS IS SUMMER PROJECT.
YOU CAN'T REALLY GO AND DO THIS DURING SCHOOL, UH, SESSION.
SO IT WOULD BE COMPLETED THIS SUMMER.
BUT THE GOAL FOR THIS LIST WAS TO FIND ITEMS THAT WE COULD COMPLETE THROUGH THIS SUMMER SO THAT WE CAN CLOSE OUT.
REFER AND YOU'RE ASKING US TO GIVE YOU RECOMMENDATIONS.
WELL JUST LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON ANY COMMENTS.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS YET, BUT I MEAN, I MEAN SOME OF THIS STUFF, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS, I THINK THE BOARD MEMBERS WHOSE SCHOOLS THEY, THEY FALL IN NEED TO HAVE SOME INPUT.
UM, I MEAN, 'CAUSE MAYBE THEIR, THEIR PRINCIPALS.
I, I, I SCHEDULE, UH, APPOINTMENTS WITH MY PRINCIPALS.
I'M SURE THEY'RE PROBABLY SCHEDULING APPOINTMENTS WITH THEIR PRINCIPALS.
PROBABLY MIGHT HAVE, UH, SOME SAME, SAME SIMILAR COMMENTS OR MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, BUT, UH, ANY, ANY OPINION ON THAT BY ANYBODY ELSE? I THINK YOU MADE A GOOD POINT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT OTHERS WHO MAY BE AFFECTED BY IT TAKE A LOOK.
UH, ALRIGHT, SO, UM, I THINK PROBABLY WHAT WE CAN DO IS MAYBE EMAIL THIS OUT TO THE, THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON IT.
AND THEN, UM, DO WE NEED, UH, DO WE NEED MOTIONS TO, TO SPEND THIS MONEY? NOT NECESSARILY, NO.
THEN OKAY, THEN, UH, THEN I DEFINITELY, WE NEED TO EMAIL THIS OUT TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS AND SAY, UH, OR YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME OR I'LL EMAIL IT OUT OR SOMETHING.
UM, AND JUST SAY, HERE, HERE'S WHAT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, DEPENDING ON POTENTIAL FUNDS BEING AVAILABLE, STARTING FROM THE TOP DOWN.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER OPINIONS? MR. SMITH? EXCUSE ME.
SO, SO WHERE, WHERE'S THIS MONEY COMING FROM? THIS IS THE OVERAGE.
UH, AS PROJECTS CLOSE OUT, THEY'RE COMING IN UNDER BUDGET.
SO AS A PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE, LISTED FOR A MILLION DOLLARS, IT'S ONLY COSTING $800,000.
THAT $200,000 FROM EACH, ALL THESE ITEMS THAT ARE CLOSING OUT, WE STILL HAVE 20, 23 ITEMS. YOU SAID TO CLOSE OUT EACH OF THESE THREE PROJECTS? YEAH.
23 PROJECTS TO CLOSE OUT, UH, EACH OF THESE PROJECTS AS THEY COME IN UNDER BUDGET.
THIS IS THE MONEY THAT IS THE OVERAGE 2019 WRAPAROUND FOR THE 2019.
SO IN THE END, THIS IS A GOOD THING.
YES, IT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE, BUT IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM.
ANYTHING ELSE? MOVING ON RIGHT ALONG.
ALRIGHT, SO MOVING ON TO THE 2023 BOTTOM REFERENDUM PROJECT.
WE'RE MAYOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS THE ONLY PROJECT WE'RE SHOWING WITH THE, UH, YELLOW TRAFFIC LIGHT.
OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS ARE AWARE IS THE ISSUES WITH THE NEGOTIATION OF THE ENCROACHMENT WITH THE POA.
SO ONCE THAT GETS RESOLVED, WE'LL CHANGE THE STATUS.
UH, BAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL, THE C-T-E-J-R-O-T-C ADDITIONS, THAT IS PROGRESSING ON SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW.
THE SEWER RELOCATIONS AND FOUNDATIONS ARE COMPLETE AND THE SLABS ARE CURRENTLY BEING POURED AT THAT FACILITY.
UH, THE NEW LEARNING, UH, NEW EARLY LEARNING CENTER IN BLUFFTON THAT WE HAD THE DESIGNERS, UH, VITAL SOME LAYOUT OPTIONS FOR FACILITY.
I BELIEVE NOW THEY HAVE A PATH FORWARD TO PROCEED WITH THE SCHEMATIC DESIGNS.
UH, WE ARE WAITING FOR THEM TO GIVE US THEIR, UH, DESIGN SCHEDULE SO THAT WE CAN NOW, UH, GET OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER ON OUR CONTRACT AS WELL.
UH, HI HILTON, HEAD ON HIGH SCHOOL, PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION.
UH, RIGHT NOW THE, WE'RE WORKING ON THE SCHEDULING OF THE TOPPING OUT CEREMONY FOR THE STEEL.
YEAH, NO, WE HAVE, I WAS GONNA COMMUNITY HOUR RETAIL.
I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU, YOU LOOKED AT ME LIKE I
SO THE LAST PROJECT UPDATED IN 2023 REFERENDUM WAS LADIES ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL REPLACEMENT AND THE RE REZONING APPLICATIONS TO THE CITY OF, UH, BEAUFORT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THAT SDS, UH, WHERE WE GAVE COMMENTS TO THE DESIGN TEAM.
THEY ARE INCORPORATING THAT AND THEY ARE WORKING TO RESUBMIT THOSE BY THE END OF THE MONTH.
SO WE ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG ON THE 2023 REFERENDUM.
UH, MOVING ON TO THE FINANCIAL UPDATES, THE FIGURES AS OF THE END OF FEBRUARY, WE ARE STILL SITTING AT THE CURRENT BUDGET OF 439, UH, MILLION DOLLARS WITH PAID AND COMMITTED FUNDS OF 182 POINT 55 MILLION.
THE, THAT IS ABOUT 40, ALMOST 42% OF THE PROGRAM.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY WITH THE REMAINING SCOPES AND HILL TO HEAD ON COMING IN, UH, THIS YEAR, WE WILL HAVE A MAJORITY OF THIS PROGRAM ENCUMBERED.
UH, THE REMAINING AVAILABLE FUNDS INCLUDED THE CONTINGENCY, WE ARE TOTALING, UH, 256.49 MILLION AND CONTINGENCY ACTIVITY IN
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FEBRUARY, 2025 INCLUDED SAVINGS RETURNED OF $500,000 AND THE USE OF 188.5 UH, THOUSAND.UH, THE PROGRAM CONTINGENCY REMAINING AT, AT THE END OF THE MONTH WAS 11000000.72.
SO WE'RE STILL DOING WELL WITH OUR PROGRAM CONTINGENCY IS, UH, ACTUALLY OVER WHAT WE CURRENTLY STARTED.
SO, UH, THAT RETURN THAT WE RECEIVED HELD TO SHORE IT UP, THE ORIGINAL PROJECT LEVEL CONTINGENCIES, UM, THEY TOTAL 17.06 MILLION RIGHT NOW.
THE CURRENT CONTINGENCY SITS AT 13.8 AT THE PROJECT LEVEL.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON FINANCIAL REPORTS FOR THE 2023
UH, THE ONLY PROJECT I DO WANNA EMPHASIZE IS MAY REVERSE, UH, CAFETERIA EXPANSION.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROJECTS WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE 8%, UH, FOUNDATIONS STAFF PLACEMENTS ARE COMPLETE AND THE AMAZING DEGREE IS ACTUALLY TAKING PLACE AS WE SPEAK.
UH, MOVING ON TO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, WHAT I'M SAYING ABOUT THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND HIGH SCHOOL TOPPING OUT CEREMONY.
SO HERE WE HAD A TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED TO OCCUR IN MARCH 18TH OF THIS YEAR, 1:00 PM HAS THAT BEEN FINALIZED? I DID NOT ASK.
SO YEAH, SO MARCH 18TH IS A TOPPING OUT CEREMONY.
WHAT'S THE TOPPING OUT CEREMONY? SO THAT'S THE LAST PIECE OF STEEL FOR THE STRUCTURE GETS.
SO WHAT YOU DO IS, UH, THEY'LL HAVE IT OUT THERE AND EVERYBODY GETS TO SIGN IT.
I HEAR THEY'RE GONNA PAINT IT GOLD, WHICH THEY DIDN'T DO IF YOU HAVE ROUTE SMALLS.
SO ALL, EVERYBODY CAN SIGN IT AND THEN THEY'LL RAISE IT AND PLACE THE LAST PIECE OF STEEL.
SO IT'S, IT'S CELEBRATING THE COMPLETION OF THE STEEL FRAME, BUT YEAH, I WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT.
UM, I HAVE TO TRAVEL OUT OF TIME, SO OTHERWISE I'D BE, WE HATE THAT.
I'LL, UH, WELL THE NEXT ONE WILL BE THE RIBBON CUTTING
YOU WILL NOT WANNA MISS THE RIBBON CUTTING.
YEAH, WE CAN'T HOLD UP THE STEEL, UNFORTUNATELY.
NOW THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, THE RFPS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK FOR BLUFFTON HIGH SCHOOL CTE, AS WELL AS THE RIVERVIEW CHARTER GYMNASIUM.
THOSE ARE SCHEDULED TO BE ADVERTISED THIS MONTH.
AND IF I BELIEVE THIS SHOULD ALMOST BE FINAL AUGUST, YEAH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN BRING 'EM THE APRIL 1ST BOARD MEETING.
SO THAT IS ALL FOR MY UPDATES.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU ALL FOR BEARING.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WHAT'S THE LATEST ON, UH, MAY RIVER ELEMENTARY? HAVE WE, HAS THERE BEEN ANY OTHER ADDIT ADDITIONAL STEPS FORWARD SINCE THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE? I HAVE HAD SOME POSITIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, A REPRESENTATIVE UFF AND WE'VE PROVIDED THEM SOME INFORMATION INFORM, SO WE'RE WAITING ON THEIR RESPONSE OR WE'RE WE ACTUALLY, WE HAVE NOT.
WE WE'RE PUTTING OUR INFORMATION TOGETHER.
WE HAVEN'T GIVEN IT TO 'EM YET.
THEY'VE REQUESTED IT AND WE'RE WAITING ON A RESPONSE RESPONSE AFTER WE PROVIDE THAT TO 'EM.
HOPEFULLY IT DIDN'T GO OUT TOMORROW.
THINGS ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING POSITIVE, I'D SAY.
UH, ANY OTHER GENTLEMEN, UH, ONLINE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? I'M GOOD.
UM, SO FAR WE HAVE, UH, POSSIBLE OUTSOURCINGS OF JOBS WITHIN THE DISTRICT STAFF, AND THEN I, I WROTE DOWN ON CONTRACT LANGUAGE FOR ONE YEAR AUDIT NOTICE TO CURE AND TERMINATION.
BUT WE'RE ALREADY, WE YEAH, WE ALREADY, WELL, WHAT RANDY SAID SHE WAS GONNA PROVIDE THAT.
JUST AS A SECTION IN THE, UH, CUSTODIAL TO SPEAK TO WHAT OUR ANNUAL, UH, UH, YES.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE BROUGHT UP, UH, THE PARTNERSHIPS, UH, WINNING SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS CAN MAKE WITH, UH, OUR CTS AND, UH, LOW COUNTRY, UH, COMMUNITY OR WHATEVER, LOW COUNTRY TECHNICAL COLLEGE.
UM, I WOULD BE, YEAH, I MEAN, THAT COULD BE A FUTURE TOPIC, BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, UH, THAT'S MORE OF A, A, A CONTACT ISSUE FOR, FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS TO GO OUT AND SHAKE HANDS AND SHAKE BABIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, KISS BABIES, SHARING, DON'T, DON'T SHAKE KISS
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WITHIN A MEETING, LIKE A FUTURE TOPIC FOR US TO TEST EVERYBODY IN THE BOARD MEETING FOR, UH, THE PARTNERSHIP WITH CONTRACTOR AND SCHOOLS AND THE POSSIBILITY OF THE K PROGRAMS BEING DEVELOPED OR ADDED INTO CAREER AND EDUCATION APPRENTICESHIP YEAH.IF THAT COULD BE PUT UNDER THE FUTURE TOPICS OR FUTURE TOPICS FOR OPERATIONS OR FUTURE TOPICS FOR THE FULL BOARD ON THE FULL BOARD AGENDA.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A FULL BOARD DISCUSSION.
BECAUSE I, I THINK THE SUPERINTENDENT NEEDS TO BE PRESENT FOR THAT.
UH, UH, GOING BACK TO THE, UH, CUTS THAT ARE COMING, UH, WOULD IT BE WORTHWHILE TO TAKE A LOOK AT PROJECTS, UH, UH, REFERENDUM OR, UH, 8% WHERE WE MAY BE ADDING THINGS THAT WOULD PARTIALLY BEEN FUNDED? AND I KNOW THIS APPLIES MORE TO LIKE, UH, ACADEMICS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT WHERE WE MAY HAVE BEEN BUILDING THINGS, INCLUDING FUNDING FOR THINGS, THAT POTENTIAL IS GONNA BE CUT.
WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S CIRCULATING IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT IS SOME OF THE, UH, ARTISTRY THAT WE USE AND SOME OF OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, UM, WILL WE BE ABLE TO FIND WHETHER OR NOT THAT BE OFF LIMITS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO I'M JUST RAISING THESE THINGS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND A LOT OF IT'S GONNA BE PUSHED OUT TO THE STATE.
SO WE ARE REACHING OUT TO THE STATE PARTNERS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THE SENSITIVITY TO IT, NOT TAKING A POSITION, JUST SAYING, CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND? IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
YOU KNOW, MY ALLEY, TO YOUR POINT, WE DON'T KNOW THE FULL DETAILS YET.
UH, YOU HATE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING YOU'RE PROJECTING AS A POSSIBILITY UNLESS WE KNOW WHAT THOSE POSSIBILITIES BE.
DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? YEAH.
YOU KIND OF NEED TO SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT.
AND THEN TALK ABOUT, WELL, I GUESS YOUR POINT IS YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR HOW IT MIGHT PLAY OUT.
UM, BASED ON CURRENT NARRATIVE THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN.
AND THEN WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T WORK THERE, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO IDENTIFY SOME THINGS THAT POTENTIALLY WE DON'T HAVE TO SPREAD IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT JUST SAY, WOW, MAY FLESH ITSELF OUT.
SORRY, IN THE, UM, 8% DISCUSSION WHEN WE GET TO THAT THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE, UM, IF THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULD SAY, I'M NOT SURE WE NEED THAT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT WILL FLESH ITSELF OUT.
BECAUSE THE ONLY OTHER THING WOULD BE CTE IF SOME REASON THERE'S A CUT OF FUNDING FOR CTE PROGRAMS THAT'S IN THE REFERENDUM ITSELF AND THE, THOSE ARE DEDICATED FUNDS THAT HAVE TO BE USED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
UM, SO, BUT I HAVEN'T, I DON'T KNOW IF CTS, I SEE WHERE IT'D BE MORE IN THE AESTHETICS OF THE BUILDINGS OR THE MEMORIALS, THOSE KIND OF, WELL, WE DON'T GET REALLY, WE DON'T ANY FUNDING OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S FUNDED BY THE REFERENDUM FOR ANYTHING LIKE WE DO LIKE THAT CONSTRUCTION.
WELL, THIS ONE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A LONG ONE.
THANKS EVERYBODY FOR THEIR, UH, ATTENTION AND THEIR PATIENCE AND THEIR COMMENTS.
ANY OBJECTIONS? WE WILL ADJOURN BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.