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NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE TO ORDER AT THIS TIME IF YOU WOULD RISE WITH JOIN ME PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY JUSTICES THE THANK YOU THE STATEMENT OF COMPLIANCE WITH FREEDOM OF INFORMATION NOTICE HAS BEEN SENT OUT TO ALL THE MEDIA OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM THE CHAIR WITHIN THE A MOTION FOR THE
[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA SOME OF MR.. MR..MR. DAWSON MOTION I'LL SENTIMENT TO THE SECOND ARE THERE ANY QUESTION OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE AGENDA ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY REASON YOUR HAND OKAY THERE'S UNANIMOUS THEN THE APPROVAL THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY THE THIRD 2025 THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - February 3, 2025]
MOTION TO THAT EFFECT NO APPROVAL. YES I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.YES THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.
IT WAS BRIAN SECOND IT'S ANY QUESTION THOSE IN PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND
[6. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD – 15 MINUTES TOTAL]
IT IS UNANIMOUS THANK YOU WE DOWN TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE IF THEY SO DESIRE YOU 3 MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS AS THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE CHAIR YEAH REMAINS VERY WEAK I'M DOING EVERYTHING ORDERLY AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE. THE FIRST ONE ON THERE IS DEREK SATTLER AND HELLO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS DEREK CETERA AND LIVE AT 169 CHERRY POINT ROAD.I URGE YOU ALL TO VOTE NO ON THE REZONING WE'VE ALL SEEN DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN AND AROUND OUR AREAS. OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT IT'S THE REZONING I'M OPPOSED TO WE DON'T NEED IT. THERE'S NOT ONE PERSON THAT HAS COME FORWARD PHYSICALLY TO SUPPORT THIS OTHER THAN PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING MOTIVATED AND OR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT EVEN IN THE AREA WHICH THAT WOULD BE COMPARABLE TO ME COMING HERE AND SUPPORTING SOMETHING ON LADY'S ISLAND THAT HAVE ZERO IMPACT ON MY LIFE.
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THAT.
I KNOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE WE DO NOT WANT THIS NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS A OF THE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THIS AND YOU GUYS AND GALS ALL HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT'S WHO YOU REPRESENT. THAT'S WHO YOU TOOK AN OATH TO REPRESENT. SOME OF YOU AND THAT'S WHO YOU SHOULD REPRESENT.
LASTLY, I WAS HERE AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS AGENDA ITEM WAS PUSHED. I ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT SENDING AN EMAIL TO THE LAW DIRECTOR SHORTLY BEFORE THIS MEETING TO SEE IF THIS MEETING COULD GET PUSHED JUST TO SEE TO SEE IF YOU GUYS WOULD REPRESENT PEOPLE. WE HAVE NUMEROUS PEOPLE THAT COULD NOT MAKE IT BECAUSE OF WORK WHETHER THEIR BEING OR WHETHER IT BEING BECAUSE OF WORK OR BEING OUT OF TOWN. I WONDER IF YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE PUSHED THE MEETING FOR RESIDENTS AND NOT JUST THE DEVELOPER LIKE YOU DID LAST TIME.
THIS WAS THE QUESTION AND I WOULD ALSO URGE YOU TO MOVE MOVING FORWARD YOU PUT A TIME FRAME THAT IF SOMEONE DOESN'T REQUEST AN EXTENSION BEFORE 24 OR 48 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING, IT DOESN'T GET ACCEPTED. IT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU, MRS. MOSKOW. THE MOCHA. GOOD AFTERNOON FELICE LAMARCA ME AND MY HUSBAND ON 149 CHERRY POINT AND YOU'VE HEARD ME SPEAK BEFORE WE HAVE WE MEANING THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAS ASKED ME TO REPRESENT THEM AS A WHOLE HAVE COME TOGETHER MANY TIMES AND AT ONE POINT WE WERE WORKING WITH MR. SCHWARTZ IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM AND THE
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NUMBER ONE REASON WAS BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS THE SCHOOL WELL WE REALLY DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE EVER GOING TO GET FOR SCHOOL AND THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD IT CAN BE PUT IN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BUT WE'VE SEEN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS CHANGE OVERNIGHT SO WE DON'T TRUST THAT PROCESS EITHER. WHAT WE DO TRUST IS THAT THE ZONING IS TO OUR RURAL AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT AND THE MAN CAN DEVELOP HIS PROPERTY UNDER THOSE GUIDELINES AND WE WILL HELP HIM AND SUPPORT HIM AND APPLAUD.WE NEED THE TREES. WE NEED TO STOP DECIMATION OF THE RIVER AND THE WILDLIFE AND I DON'T EVEN NEED TO MENTION THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE WILL THERE WAS ONE PERSON THAT COMMUNICATED WITH MR. SCHWARTZ THAT SHE WAS IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM GIVEN CERTAIN GUARANTEES I SAW HER OVER THE WEEKEND PERSONALLY AND SHE RESCINDED HER SUPPORT. SO AT THIS POINT EVERY COMMUNICATION FROM MY NEIGHBORS HAS ASKED ME TO PLEASE STAND UP HERE AND ASK YOU TO NOT REZONE THIS PROPERTY AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. NEXT IS MR. DANIEL YES SIR.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME SCOTT DANIEL. I LIVE AT 165 CHERRY POINT ROAD . I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW AREAS AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FIRST THEY DO NOT RECOMMEND THE DEVELOPMENT MOVE FORWARD AND UNDER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL NUMBER ONE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH AND FURTHERS THE GOALS AND POLICIES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN YES IT CONSISTS IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ALTHOUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THESE PROPERTIES IS TO BE RURAL IS TO BE RURAL. IT ALSO EXPRESSES THE OPTION TO CREATE A VILLAGE PLACE TYPE PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE THE VILLAGE PLACE TYPE OVERLAY IS THE PREFERRED OPTION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHEN GIVEN THE VERBIAGE IT SHOWS THE PREFERRED USAGE IS FOR IT TO REMAIN RURAL NUMBER THREE IT SAYS ADDRESSES IS DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY YES IT ADDRESSES THE NEED IT TALKS ABOUT THE SCHOOL . THE SCHOOL SAYS IT NEEDS 30 NEEDS A MINIMUM OF 30 ACRES FOR A MIDDLE SCHOOL. THIS PROPERTY IS BISECTED BY A WETLANDS AREA THAT THAT APPEARS AS IF IT WILL HAVE TO BE FILLED IN TO TRULY HAVE 30 ACRES OF USABLE LAND ALSO THE DEVELOPER DOES NOT OWN THIS LAND HE DOESN'T OWN THIS SO THIS IS AN APPROVED NOTHING PRECLUDES THE SCHOOL MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ACTUAL OWNER AT A LATER DATE COMING IN AND GETTING THIS THIS ISN'T A DEATH KNELL TO THE SCHOOL.
IF THIS GOES ON WE WILL SEE OUR TWO LANE ROAD THAT'S LINED BY OAKS CHANGE A FIVE LANE ROAD TO ACCOMMODATE THE INFLUX OF TRAFFIC TWO LANES TO FIVE LANES ALMOST AS WIDE AS 170 COMING INTO OUR AREA EVEN WITH THIS THIS WILL NOT FIX THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT WILL ARISE IN THE FUTURE WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS SAYING NO TO WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING ON I FEEL LIKE BEAUFORT IS DYING A DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS ALL THE DEVELOPMENT STACKING AND OVERWHELMING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND CHANGING OUR WAY OF LIFE. I BELIEVE FAILURE OF THE RECENT REFERENDUM WAS A CONDEMNATION OF THIS UNCONTROLLED GROWTH AND VOTERS SHOULD BE LISTENED TO. WE HAVE RESTAURANTS, GAS AND GROCERY STORES ALL WITHIN AN EASY SHORT DRIVE WITH COMING IN ALMOST DAILY.
THERE IS NO NEED FOR THIS IF THERE WAS A NEED FOR MORE DEVELOPMENT FOR MORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THE PROPERTY IN FRONT OF MAINLAND BLUFF THAT IS ZONED FOR DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED BY NOW BUT. THEY TRIED TO CHANGE THAT INTO APARTMENTS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET BUSINESSES TO COME IN THERE WHEN IT COMES TO THE LAND AS IT IS NOW WE HAVE A PAIR OF EAGLES THAT NEST ON THE MARSH AND I'VE SEEN THEM USE THE AREA IN QUESTION AS A FOOD SOURCE.
THE WORDS ARE ALSO HOME TO LARGE NUMBERS OF DEERS AND I'VE SEEN FOXES OR FOX OR TO TRAVEL THROUGH TO ME IT'S APARTMENTS THAT ARE DRIVING THIS DEVELOPMENT THE DEVELOPER EVEN HAD AS OF HIS ORIGINAL PLAN THAT THEY MAY NOT GET THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT IN THE FRONT SECTION AND IF THEY DON'T GET THE THE BUSINESSES DEVELOPED THEY WANT TO CONVERT IT INTO APARTMENTS BECAUSE THIS APARTMENT ARE DRIVING THIS NOT THE NEEDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND THEN WE HAVE THIS MCCOO.
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HELLO. MY NAME IS GRANT MCCLURE AND I WORK FOR COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE CONSERVATION LEAGUE SUPPORT STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THE REZONING FOR BOTH OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY ALONG C 170 AND WE AGREE STAFFORD'S INTERPRETATION SPECIFICALLY THAT THE LEVEL OF IS NOT GOING TO BE UP TO PAR WITH THE COUNTY'S PREFERRED STANDARDS REGARDING THE 121 ACRE PROPERTY AND THAT'S SEEKING TO REZONE USING THE PLACE TYPE OF OVERLAY. ADDITIONALLY CONCERNING THE OTHER PROJECT WHICH IS THE 49 ACRE PROPERTY WE AGREE WITH STATS INTERPRETATION THAT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED THAT ARE ZONED TEACHER RURAL AND THAT IT WOULD NOT RESULT IN A LOGICALLY ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT AC HIGHWAY 170 HAS REALLY EXPLODED WITH GROWTH SO MUCH SO THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN AREA REALLY HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO KEEP KEEP PACE WITH GROWTH. AND I THINK WHILE THERE ARE SOME VERY ATTRACTIVE THINGS ON THE TABLE SUCH AS A LAND SWAP FOR SCHOOLS OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING VETERANS THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS BESIDES MAKING DEALS WITH WITH DEVELOPERS AND HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE SOLUTIONS MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND AND THIS ISN'T UNIQUE TO BEAUFORT COUNTY I THINK ALL ACROSS SOUTH CAROLINA COUNTIES ARE DEALING WITH WITH HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THIS SORT OF MISMATCH OF DEVELOPMENT TRYING TO COME INTO A PLACE WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIMPLY ISN'T COMPATIBLE AND THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN A PIECE OF LEGISLATION FILED, SENATOR DAVIS, ABOUT IT'S CALLED CONCURRENCY WHICH REALLY SEEKS TO GIVE PLANNING STAFFS A NEW TOOL TO ENSURE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING IN IS IS ALSO BEING HAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE NEEDED TO SUPPORT IT. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO VOTE NO ON BOTH OF THE REZONING REQUESTS BEFORE YOU TODAY.AND AND REALLY JUST WITH THE FACT BEING THAT THE TRAFFIC AND AND YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH ALONG THE OKATIE RIVER IN RECENT YEARS HAS REALLY JUST CHANGED THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
AND THEN MR. ROSS, MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE MEMBERS HOPE, YOU ALL ARE HAVING A GOOD DAY. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS EVENING ON JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT ARE BEING UP ON THE AGENDA TODAY BUT CERTAINLY ALONG THE 170 CORRIDOR AND I THINK EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE KNOWS THE IMPACT THAT ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE 170 CORRIDOR RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO HAVE A SEVERE IMPACT NOT ONLY ON THE TRAFFIC, ON THE ECOSYSTEM, ON THE SCHOOLS. EVERYTHING THAT'S ALONG THAT CORRIDOR RIGHT NOW IS OVERSTRESS. THE TWO DEVELOPERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY ARE GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF BOTH OF THEIR PROJECTS. ONE IS GOING TO TURN OUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE SCHOOLS. WE'RE GOING TO A BETTER SCHOOL IN THE CHERRY POINT NEIGHBORHOOD. ANOTHER IS GOING TO TELL YOU THAT THERE'S BENEFITS FOR LOW COST HOUSING. I'M A RETIRED VETERAN.
I'M ALSO A FORMER FIRST RESPONDER. SO THESE ISSUES ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR VETERANS AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. BUT UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE AND IT'S THE RIGHT TIME. I THINK YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS OF THESE TWO DEVELOPMENTS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ON OUR WATER USAGE, OUR STORMWATER, THE WILDLIFE THAT IT'S ALREADY STRESSED AND OBVIOUSLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT WE ALL DEAL WITH. AND I TRAVEL 170 REGULARLY AND IT'S IT'S TOUGH NOW.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BY ANY MEANS AND I KNOW THAT BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE THEM. YOU CAN SEE ALL THE NUMBERS YOU WANT AND YOU CAN COME UP WITH ALL THE MODELING PROGRAMS THAT YOU WANT.
THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE THAT TIME FROM THE TIME THAT PROJECT STARTS UNTIL THAT TIME THAT PROJECT ENDS THERE'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC CONES, THERE'S GOING TO BE DETOURS, THERE'S GOING TO BE GRAVEL, THERE'S TO BE ISSUES THAT THE REGULAR COMMUNITY CITIZENS THAT TRAVEL THAT ROAD EVERY DAY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND FOR WHAT FOR WHAT ARE THESE DEVELOPMENTS REALLY NEEDED AT THIS POINT IN TIME IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA THAT'S ALREADY STRESSED? SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO REALLY ASK THE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS OF THESE DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY COME UP HERE TODAY AND THEY SELL THEIR PRODUCT. I WOULD ASK WHO BENEFITS MOST
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FROM THESE PROPOSALS? THE DEVELOPERS AND THEIR INVESTORS OR THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES THAT THEM EVERY DAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.THANK YOU. AND MRS. SMITH, GOOD AFTERNOON. I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE NUMBER NINE THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE DIVERSITY ISLAND CODE , THE COUNCILMEN RIGHTS IS THE ISSUE THAT I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT A LITTLE A LITTLE EARLIER.
THE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ACTUALLY GET SOME VETERINARY SERVICES ON DUSKY ISLAND AND.
PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. THE DEFENSE HERE ON COUNCIL HAS UNANIMOUSLY ENDORSED ENDORSE THIS TEXT AMENDMENT CHANGE. STAFF WILL BE GIVING YOU AN OVERVIEW OF IT BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOU FROM KIND OF WEARING THREE HATS ON THIS.
FIRST OF ALL I AM HEAD OF THE DIVERSITY ISLAND PARTNERSHIP FOR.
IT'S THE ONLY ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION AND I WAS THE CHAIR OF THE DIVERSITY ISLAND COUNCIL. WE REVIEWED AND MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNTY AN. SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY TO BLAME FOR A VETERINARY SERVICES NOT ALREADY BEING INCLUDED IN THE ALLOWABLE BUSINESSES YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING AT HER.
IT WAS SIMPLY AN OVERSIGHT. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALLOWED INCLUDING DOG BOARDING FACILITIES. SO WE YOU KNOW, WE JUST WE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED IT AND WE DIDN'T. AND WE PROBABLY ALSO THOUGHT WE NEVER WOULD HAVE ANYBODY INTERESTED IN SETTING UP A VET PRACTICE ON THE ISLAND.
BUT WE DO KNOW THERE'S A RETIRED COUPLE JUST MOVED TO THE ISLAND LAST YEAR.
THEY LIVE IN HAIG POINT AND THEY RAN A PRACTICE UP NORTH AND DR. SANDEFUR THE VETERINARIAN HAS ALREADY GOTTEN HIS SOUTH CAROLINA LICENSE AND HE WANTS TO START A SMALL PART TIME VET CLINIC AND IT'LL QUITE HONESTLY IT'LL BE A GODSEND FOR THE PET OWNERS ON THE ISLAND AND FOR THE ANIMALS ON THE ISLAND. IT'S DIFFICULT NOW HAVING PETS PARTICULARLY WHEN WHEN YOU HAVE A CRITICAL SITUATION WITH A PET YOU'VE GOT TO GET OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE AND YOU CAN'T IN THE MOST HEARTBREAKING CASES AND THEY DO OCCASIONALLY IS WHEN YOU HAVE A CRITICALLY ILL ANIMAL THAT'S TO GO OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE SOMETIMES TO BE EUTHANIZED AND THERE'S NO WAY TO THEM OVER THERE AND IT'S JUST A HEARTBREAKING SITUATION.
WE HAVE A LOW INCIDENCE OF OF VACCINATIONS ON ISLAND AND OTHER PREVENTATIVE CARE SUCH AS CHECKING FOR HEARTWORM THIS HAVING THIS THIS PROGRAM AND WITH DR. SANDIFER HAS ALREADY OFFERED TO SET UP LOW COST VACCINE CLINICS WILL BE WILL REALLY BE A GREAT FOR THE FOLKS ON THE ISLAND WHO CARE ABOUT THEIR PETS AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PET OWNERS BUT ALSO HAVE A WILDLIFE REHAB PROGRAM AND WE HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF OF LIVESTOCK AT A LITTLE COMMUNITY FARM SO I KNOW OF NO OPPOSITION TO THIS. THE DEFAZIO COUNCIL IS UNANIMOUS UNANIMOUSLY ENDORSED IT AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR FAVOR WILL CONSIDER OF IT TODAY AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU AND MR. OR EDDIE IF. THANK YOU SIR IT'S ROBERT NODDING I'M WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I'M GLAD TO HEAR IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME SUPPORT FOR THE SCHOOL ON THE CHERRY POINT PROPERTY.
JUST WANTED TO COME HERE IN SUPPORT OF THAT BECAUSE IT IS ALLOWING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S ON 170 THAT IS NOT VERY USEFUL TO US FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS USEFUL FOR SCHOOL SITES. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL GET A CHANCE TO TALK DURING PRESENTATION BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL WERE AWARE THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE IN FAVOR FOR. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND THE LAST ONE IS MR. STEWART .
HELLO, I'M BRENDAN STEWART ON FOUR ACRES ON THE 49 ACRE ON NUMBER SEVEN.
I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT THE TREES AND ALL THAT BUT BLUFFTON IS IS ON STEROIDS BEING DEVELOPED. WE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY OF OWNER FOR ABOUT 18 YEARS AND THERE'S NOT BEEN A REAL CLEAR PATH WHAT TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY AND TO ME IT WOULD BE BETTER TO DEVELOP AND HAVE A MASTER PLAN ON DEVELOPMENT THIS WELL-THOUGHT OUT AND TONY HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR TWO YEARS THAN TO HAVE TEN OR 12 OWNERS GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS WITH THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE JUST ME THIS PROPERTY IS VALUABLE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST SIT IT'S NOT GOING BE A CENTRAL PARK FREE OF CHARGE.
I LIVE. I'M NOT SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT.
COUNTY I DO. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THIS PROJECT IS A VALUABLE ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE VETERANS. THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU. IT WAS STEWART ACTUALLY THE LAST SIGN OF THE TO SPEAK.[7. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP FOR 49.16 ACRES (R600 029 000 0005 0000, R600 029 000 0143 0000, R600 029 000 1194 0000, R600 029 000 0002 0000, R600 029 000 008A 0000, R600 029 000 008C 0000, R600 029 000 0006 0000, R600 029 000 0026 0000) LOCATED ON OKATIE HIGHWAY FROM T2 RURAL (T2R) TO NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE (C3) - Rob Merchant, AICP, Director, Beaufort County Planning and Zoning]
SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE AGENDA THIS TIME TO YOU AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP FOR 49.616 ACRES. LOOK OKATIE HIGHWAY FROM TEE TO RURAL TO TEE TO NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE WHICH IS C THREE IN WILL OF FIRST YOU HEAR FROM STAFF ONE OF PROCESS RIGHT NOW WE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD SO THE MOTION AND SECOND WE DO START WE CAN PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE BUT I ALSO WANT STAFF COME IN AND LET US KNOW BASICALLY HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS AND A MOTION WILL PUT IT ON THE FLOOR SO IF YOU GET A MOTION THE SECOND I CAN COME UP AND DISCUSS THE MOTION BY MS. BROWN AND SECONDED BY NO SECOND EMOTIONAL CAME IS HOW IT IS SECOND IS ACTUALLY PLACED ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW FOR DISCUSSION SO MR. MERCHANT, YOU LET DID LARRY JUST A MOTION TO AMEND. OH I'M SORRY NUMBER 77. I KNOW WHAT IT IS.SIMPLY PUT IT ON THE RIGHT NOW IS JUST A MOTION TO DISCUSS IT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE THERE.
MR. MCGOWAN YEAH. I FORGOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU ON THE ON ON THE LINE.
THANK YOU. BREAKING IT. ALL RIGHT.
WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON. MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE MY NAME IS MERCHANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING AND WANTED TO I GUESS START WITH JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS BEING IN. DO YOU HAVE THE MAP IN THE STAFF WE CAN GO OVER THAT THIS PROPERTY THIS IS A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
THE CURRENT ZONING THE PROPERTY IS TOO RURAL AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CHANGE THAT ZONING TO SEE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE. THIS IS A SERIES OF EIGHT PARCELS LOCATED ON S.E. 170 ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THAT ROAD JUST NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION WITH BLUFFTON PARKWAY. SO THERE'S EIGHT PARCELS SEVEN OF THEM ARE ADJOINED EACH OTHER AND THERE'S AN EIGHTH PARCEL THAT IS SEPARATED FROM THE REST OF THE GROUP.
SO THERE'S REALLY TWO DISCRETE AREAS OF THIS REZONING REZONING WHICH THE SURROUNDING LANDS AROUND THE AREA. SO THIS IS THIS IS KIND OF A REMNANT OF RURAL LOCATED IN SOUTHERN BE FOR COUNTY AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNIT NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU KNOW THERE'S A SERIES OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE 72 RURAL IN THIS AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 70 IS SUN CITY. SO THAT GIVES YOU SOME ORIENTATION JUST SOUTH OF THIS IS LAND THAT'S IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND AT THE INTERSECTION OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND 170 AND TO THE EAST IS RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY AND DAVIS ROAD.
SO THAT OF GIVES YOU SOME SOME IDEA OF WHERE THIS IS LOCATED OF COURSE TEE TO RURAL CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY THAT ALLOWS ONE DWELLING UNIT FOR THREE ACRES SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO CALCULATE BECAUSE THERE ARE YOU KNOW TWO DISCRETE GROUPS OF PARCELS HERE BUT YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD MEAN YOU WOULD TAKE THAT OF 41 ACRES YOU KNOW, DIVIDE BY THREE AND YOU WOULD GET A PROXIMATE YIELD OF DWELLING UNITS. THE APPLICANT PROPOSING TO CHANGE IT TO C NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE THAT ALLOWS IF YOU'RE DOING A SINGLE FAMILY 2.6 TO ALL OF YOU PER ACRE SO THAT'S YOU KNOW THAT WOULD ALLOW 127 UNITS OR THEY COULD CHOOSE TO DO A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE BASED ON THEIR SUBMITTAL AND THE MIXED USE OF MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO THAT OR GO THAT ROUTE THAT COULD ALLOW UP TO 171. SO IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A AN IDEA ABOUT THE NATURE OF THIS REZONING IN SO I THINK AT THIS POINT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PLAN IN THE PROPOSAL FOR VETERANS HOUSING AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS REZONING THIS IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD MAP AMENDMENT SO IN AND OF ITSELF WOULD SIMPLY ALLOW THE YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTIES ARE IN THAT AREA
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THAT IS DEFINED IN RED TO HAVE THAT HIGHER DENSITY ZONING. SO ANYTHING THAT IS ALLOWED IN THAT C THREE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE DISTRICT WOULD BE ALLOWED WITHIN THOSE THOSE PARCELS WITH THE FOR MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS TO ACCOMPANY THIS WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD THEN FURTHER YOU KNOW, COULD BE USED TO FURTHER SOLIDIFY A MASTER PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY AND THAT ALSO WOULD BE THE MEANS NECESSARY FOR THE CREATION OF THE PROPOSED VETERANS HOUSING IN TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS AND I REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL FACES EVERY DAY BUT THIS THIS REZONING WOULD NEED TO BE CONSIDERED EITHER AS A STRAIGHTFORWARD REZONING IN AND OF ITSELF OR YOU KNOW WITH THE YOU KNOW, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD ESPECIALLY WITH, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO FURTHER LOOK AT THIS POSSIBILITY OF THE CREATION OF THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THEN, WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS RECOMMEND TO, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT COUNSEL ENTER NEGOTIATIONS FOR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THEN THOSE TWO WOULD KIND OF RUN PARALLEL TRACKS THEN BE APPROVED AT THIRD READING AT THE SAME TIME AND THAT'S THAT'S HOW THIS IS MOVED FORWARD. SO THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS OF THIS THE REZONING WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY AND THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHICH WOULD THEN BE THE MEANS TO ATTACH THESE EXTRA CONDITIONS WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE AFFORDABLE UNITS. SO I WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR SO WHEN WE GET TO STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE REITERATING AT THAT POINT THE.THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE TODAY TO WRITE. YES.
AND WE ASK THAT THEY WOULD COME TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO US. SO WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THEM TO US AS WE MOVE? OKAY. AND THEN DO YOU WANT ME TO SUMMARIZE AT THE END OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION SO YOU CAN DO IT NOW AT THE END OF THE MINUTES.
OKAY. I WOULD JUST ASSUME GO OVER IT NOW IT AND I THINK YOU'VE ALL SEEN THE PACKETS BUT YOU KNOW AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW WE LOOK AT A NUMBER OF CRITERIA YOU KNOW, AND I THINK NOW YOU'RE GETTING MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT WE USE FOR ZONING MAP AMENDMENT. BUT ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CONCERNS YOU KNOW IS THE INCOMPATIBILITY OF THIS PROPOSED REZONING WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES AND I THINK THIS IS ESPECIALLY THE CASE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL THE PARCELS THAT ARE SAID RURAL WE'RE ABOUT A SUBSET OF THEM AND THE TO DO NOT TOUCH EACH OTHER AND SO SOME OF THE CRITERIA WE USE IN EVALUATING A ZONING AMENDMENT HAS TO DO WITH THE LOGICAL ORDER AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN OF OURS HERE. WE DO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO COUNCIL THAT THIS YOU KNOW, THE 24 UNITS OR 22 I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE THE NUMBER HAS BEEN SETTLED ON BUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT IS SOMETHING IS A FEATURE IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ALSO TALK ABOUT SUPPORT FOR THE MILITARY SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING ON THE POSITIVE SIDE BUT OVERALL BELIEVES THAT THIS WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ESPECIALLY THE WAY THAT IS BEING PROPOSED AND WHEN TIME FOR THE RECOMMENDATION WE CAN GO FURTHER INTO HOW IT ADDRESSES EACH OF THE CRITERIA YOU KNOW DEPENDING HOW COUNCIL WANTS TO FORM ITS MOTION. OKAY.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT NOW WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THE OH OKAY.
NO QUESTION FOR MR. MARKET BEFORE IT REDUCES. OKAY.
YES, SIR. WHO FILED THE APPLICATION HERE FOR THIS AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE THE APPLICATION WAS FILED BY TONY AND ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHO IS REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY? OKAY. WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION? RIGHT. THERE ARE EIGHT LANDOWNER SO THERE'S EIGHT DIFFERENT PARCELS HERE AND WE HAVE THEM LISTED AS MARION T DAVIS JAMES HAMILTON MOSAIC DEVELOPMENT LLC STEWART WILLIAM REYNOLDS PROPERTIES LLC CHASE OH T.G. TEAGUE PROPERTIES LLC JASON DE REEDS KURT WARRINGTON EVELINA PERRY JOHN BUSH AND JAMES BUSH SO THAT THE
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PERSON MAKING AN APPLICATION TO CHANGE THE ZONING IS NOT THE OWNER OF ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT BEING ATTEMPTED TO BE ON THAT FRONT. YES AND WE THIS HAPPENS A LOT OF IT OFTEN BECAUSE LOT OF TIMES THE SALE OF A PROPERTY WILL BE CONTINGENT ON THE REZONING AND SO WE REQUIRE AN AFFIDAVIT BE INCLUDED WITH THE APPLICATION AND THAT WAS PROVIDED. SO I NOTICE YOU MENTIONED ONE PROPERTY OWNER IS MOSAIC THOSE MAKING THE APPLICATION SO THEY OWN ONE OF THE ONES THAT YEAH I MEAN I GUESS THEY CAN VERIFY THAT THE WERE CONTRACTOR OWNERS. YES THEY SIMPLY SAID YES TO THAT QUESTION THAT THEY ON ONE OF THE PROPERTY THINK THEY MAY BE TO BE ANSWERED A LITTLE LATER IF YOU WOULD HOLD OFF ON. YEAH I WAS GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THAT THAT PART MR. MOTION DOESN'T KNOW AT THIS TIME HOW TO ANSWER THAT ONE.OKAY OKAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY OKAY.
MR. MURCHISON, ARE YOU GOING TO INTRODUCE OH, I GET IT. YEAH, YEAH, I'LL I'LL INTRODUCE TONY TO STARTING WITH MOSAIC AND GUESS HE CAN INTRODUCE HIS TEAM.
I APOLOGIZE. RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU, SIR. YES, SIR. YOU ALL THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN GLOVER. IN THE INTEREST OF EXPEDIENCY, I'M GOING TO TRY AND KEEP THIS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE. I HAVE SOME SLIDES THAT WILL KIND OF GUIDE US THROUGH THE ITEMS AND I WON'T COVER . OKAY, SO ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE PLACE TYPE OVERLAY PTO OF THE HAMLET TYPE OVERLAY. THIS WAS THE FINDING OF THE WHICH IS IN THERE A STAFF REPORT WHICH CONCLUDES WITH A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION OF NINE CRITERIA MENTIONED IN THE REPORT FIVE OF THOSE NINE CRITERIA TURNED OUT TO BE NEGATIVE BECAUSE OF THE HAMLET TYPE OVERLAY. THE OTHER FOUR WERE POSITIVE. SO I WANT TO ADDRESS THIS HAMLET TYPE OVERLAY. SO YOU'RE SEEING THE GREEN CIRCLE WHICH IS THE OVERLAY.
WE ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT GREEN CIRCLE AND THIS FROM THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS IS AN EXCERPT THE SNIPPET OF THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE WHERE IF WE WERE TO HAVE THE WHOLE PLAN ON THIS PAGE IT WOULD BE ABOUT FOUR FEET WIDE AND FOUR FEET TALL AND MOST IT WOULD BE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE. SO APPS IN THE OVERLAY WE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE WHICH C THREE WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR.
SO WHAT WHAT DOES IT SAY IN THE DESCRIPTION IN THE 2040 PLAN ABOUT THE HAMLET TYPE OVERLAY? IT IS OFTEN A SMALL PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED STREET WITH SURROUNDING AND SUPPORTING RESIDENTIAL FABRIC THAT IS SCALED TO THE SIZE OF A PEDESTRIAN SHED.
MOST IMPORTANTLY WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT THE MAIN STREET AND SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL FABRIC TRANSITIONS QUICKLY INTO AND OR THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT COULD BE THE VIDEO.
THIS IS A VIDEO OF C17 THE TAKEN FROM THE ORDER OF THE SITE THE CAMERA IS AT THE BORDER OF THE SITE SINCE THE VIDEO SHOWS HEAVY TRAFFIC ON FOUR LANE DIVIDED AS C17 THE AS IT TRAVERSES RIGHT THROUGH THE OVERLAY ZONE SO OUR INEVITABLE CONCLUSION WHICH IS SUBSTANTIALLY AIDED BY AN EXPERT THAT I'LL GET TO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT THIS AREA IS NOW OR CAN EVER BE A HAMLET PLACE TYPE OVERLAY BECAUSE THERE IS NO MAIN STREET THE
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TRANSITIONS INTO AGRICULTURAL USES OR THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT TO THE CONTRARY THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO AGRICULTURE OR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT TO TRANSITION INTO.ABSURDLY THE PTO INCLUDES A SECTION OF SUN CITY THE THREE THE REGION'S MOST DENSELY POPULATED ONE OF THE SUN CITIES BUSIEST MAIN GATES A HIGH TRAFFIC FOUR LANE STATE HIGHWAY A LARGE SECTION OF THE BUCKWALTER PD THAT WILL SOON BECOME THE HOME OF A MAJOR SHOPPING COMPLEX HARDLY NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OR AGRICULTURE AND ADJACENCY TO A MAJOR REHABILITATION HEALTH CARE FACILITY SO WE BROUGHT IN A INDEPENDENT EXPERT BILL EUBANKS. HE'S GOT NORTH OF 40 YEARS EXPERIENCE WRITING ORDINANCES FOR VARIOUS TOWN TOWNS AND CITIES WITHIN SOUTH CAROLINA AND EUBANKS AND I QUOTE AND I'VE REVIEWED THE RELEVANT SECTIONS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ORDINANCE AS IT RELATES TO THIS PROPOSED PROJECT MOSAIC DEVELOPMENT IN MY OPINION DESIGNATE OF THESE PARCELS AS A HAMLET PLACE TYPE IN THE T TO RURAL ZONE WAS AN ERROR IN THE PLANNING PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED. OKAY MY NEXT ITEM ON NEXT SLIDE.
OKAY. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR JUST ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AND DURING THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO GET A SENSE FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE COUNCIL AS IF WE WERE PROPOSING THE RIGHT KIND OF PROJECT AND YOU KNOW THAT WAS AN EDITOR PROCESS AND IT ULTIMATELY LED TO OUR INCLUSION I GUESS WE IT WAS LAST JULY WHEN WE STARTED INCLUDED THE INCLUSION OF VETERANS HOUSING. SO THE FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE MET WITH I THINK THREE OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY. COUNCIL MEMBER TABACHNICK MCGOWAN BROWN REEDS AND CUNNINGHAM. EACH OF THESE MEETINGS WERE SUBSTANTIVE ONE AN HOUR OR TWO AND THEY WERE DETAILED THEY WERE POSITIVE AND THEY WERE VERY INFORMATIVE. FOUR OF THESE MEETINGS WERE WERE LUNCH MEETINGS ONE OVER A CUP OF COFFEE TWO OF THEM WERE ATTENDED BY ALSO ATTENDED BY SENATOR TOM DAVIS WHO HAS BEEN ADVOCATING FIRST THE WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT THAT WE PROPOSED AND THEN LATER HE'S BEEN ABDICATING THE THE VETERANS HOUSING COMPONENT AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS COUNCIL MEMBER REED'S ACCOMPANIED ME WITH MY MEETING WITH COUNCILMEMBER BROWN.
I BRING THIS UP TO SAY THAT WHAT I GOT FROM EVERY ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH PLANNING AND ZONING HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ENVIRONMENT WHAT IT HAD TO DO WITH SOME OF THE SENTIMENT YOU'VE HEARD HERE TODAY ABOUT ABOUT HAPHAZARD GROWTH OR TOO MUCH GROWTH OR ABOUT THE SERVICES AND IN THOSE THINGS. EACH OF THE FIVE COUNCIL PEOPLE THAT I MET WITH REPORTED THAT TO BE THAT THIS WOULD BE THE HURDLE AND YOU KNOW WE THOUGHT THAT THERE'S ALWAYS A TRADEOFF YOU KNOW, BETWEEN PUBLIC BENEFIT AND THESE THINGS THAT THAT VOTERS SEEM TO BE RESISTANT TO. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD BEFORE MOVING ON. NEXT ITEM SO WE MET WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND HIS ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR WHO IS LIAISON TO THIS COMMITTEE. WE HAD TWO MEETINGS.
SAME DAY IN FACT COUNCILMAN PASSMAN I THINK WE PASSED EACH OTHER IN THE HALLWAY THE 10:00 MEETING AND THE 11:00 MEETING. SO THE 10:00 MEETING WAS A SMALL MEETING IN THE IN MR. MOORE'S OFFICE AND WE MADE THE CASE ABOUT THIS OVERLAY ZONE THAT WE HAVE MADE HERE TODAY ONLY WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AT THE END OF THAT MEETING.
WE WERE TOLD BY ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR ATKINSON THAT THIS IF THIS WERE IN ERROR
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WHICH HE DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE BY MR. MERCHANT IN APPROVING THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE THIS OVERLAY ZONE IS PART OF THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR ASK AT THAT MEETING WITH MR. MOORE . WAS THAT MR. MERCHANT RIGHT OPINION ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS OVERLAY ZONE WAS AN ERROR AND THE NEGATIVE STAFF REPORT ACCORDINGLY BECAUSE AS I SAID MOST OF THE NEGATIVE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT RELATE TO THIS OVERLAY ZONE. SO MR. ATKINSON OFFERED INSTEAD THE OPTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND WE THOUGHT THAT THAT A GOOD COMPROMISE SO WE HAVE BEEN LABORING SINCE NOVEMBER TO GET A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHERE BOTH PARTIES WOULD PARTICIPATE THAT IS NOT HAPPENED. SO LAST WEEK SUBMITTED OUR DRAFT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND ABOUT THAT LATER ITEM. OKAY.WE'VE HAD NO FROM ANYBODY ON ANY OF THESE LETTERS. SO FOR EXAMPLE SENATOR ON DECEMBER 18TH WROTE A LETTER TO WHO WAS THEN CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE A COUNCILWOMAN HOWARD AND ASKED THAT THE THAT THAT COMMITTEE ENGAGE WITH US IN COMING UP WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY THE IDEA CAME FROM STAFF WHICH WE EMBRACED WE HEARD NOTHING ON THAT. THEN I WROTE A LETTER TO THEM AND LET ME JUST STOP YOU HERE FOR A SECOND. YOU GETTING INTO A LOT OF AREAS POLITICS AND I KNOW I'M NOT A CHAIRMAN. I TO DIFFER I'M GIVING YOU THE HISTORY OF WHY WE'RE TODAY ASKING FOR A DEVELOPMENT DEGREE.
WELL, LET ME LET ME ALSO SAY THIS THAT I WILL COUNSEL FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE LEARNED IS THAT WHEN YOU TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE'RE GOING TO MISS THEM EVERY TIME. THAT'S WHY WE WORK THROUGH STAFF. WELL, STAFF WASN'T REACTING TO OUR REQUESTS EITHER AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. OKAY. GO AHEAD.
OKAY. I'M GOING TO SKIP BEYOND NUMBER FOUR AND GO TO FIVE.
AS A RESULT OF NO IN MR. JOHNSON'S LETTER LAST WEEK WE FURNISHED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL NOW HAS A COPY OF IT AND THAT'S THE YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE MAKE. NEXT THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER SIX WE HAD BEEN INTERVIEWED BY THE ISLAND PACKET WHO WAS ABOUT TO RUN A STORY ON THIS PROJECT FEATURING THE VETERANS. HOUSING BENEFIT THAT WAS THE FEATURE OF THE STORY SUBSEQUENTLY SABC TV NEWS IT UP AND THEY RAN THE STORY. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IT ON LAST WEDNESDAY'S NEWS . BUT THE ISLAND PACKET WAS TOLD THE FOLLOWING BY SOMEBODY I DON'T KNOW WHO SOMEBODY IS BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE TOLD THAT OUR APPLICATION DID NOT FULFILL. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS IN CONCEPT WITH THE BENEATH DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT NEARBY LANDS INCLUDING A MAJOR WETLAND SYSTEM AND WOULD NOT RESULT IN A LOGICAL AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THIS IS THE ISLAND PACKET TALKING THE BIGGEST HURDLE OF APPEARS TO BE GETTING IT THROUGH THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL GIVEN THE PROXIMITY OF PROTECTED WETLANDS. SO THE TRUTH IS THAT OUR ACREAGE IS NOT IN ANY WAY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AND OUR PLANNING HAS METICULOUSLY AND CAREFULLY AVOIDED DEVELOPMENT ON THE WETLANDS INSTEAD PRESERVING THEM FOR THE ENJOYMENT OF ALL.
INDEED THE ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY IS PART OF OUR BRAND YOU KNOW, WHERE THE MUSIC NATURE'S WALK OR LAND PLAN CAREFULLY AVOIDS ANY DISTURBANCE OF THE WETLANDS WHICH WILL DEMONSTRATE IN THE NEXT TWO SLIDES. FINALLY BELOW ARE EXCERPTS FROM
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NEWKIRK ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT'S OPINION LETTER NEWKIRK IS THE REGION'S PREMIER ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERT SO NEWKIRK SAYS THAT WELL I'LL JUST READ THE BOTTOM LINE.IT APPEARS THAT WE FALL WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF A CORPS OF ENGINEERS NATIONWIDE PERMIT WHICH ALLOWS FOR UP TO A HALF ACRE OF WETLAND FILL ALONG WITH THE IMPACT BORROW PITS.
SO WHAT HE'S SAYING HERE IS OF ALL THESE 49 ACRES WE ARE NOT GOING TO TOUCH ANYTHING.
WHAT LESS THAN A HALF AN ACRE? NOW THE NEXT SLIDE DEMONSTRATES THAT HERE IS NEW KIRK'S WETLANDS MAP. THESE WERE CAREFULLY EXAMINED AS THEY FELT AND SUBMITTED TO THE ARMY CORPS. HERE IS OUR LAND PLAN. LET ME GO BACK AND FORTH.
ANYBODY SEE THAT WE HAVE NOT IMPINGED ON THE WETLANDS? THE WETLANDS ARE ALL.
THAT'S WHERE NATURE'S WALK IS GOING OCCUR IN THE MUSIC NATURE'S WALK AND ALL OF THAT ALL OF THAT GREEN LANDSCAPE IS CROSS PATCHED BECAUSE IT'S WET AND SO WE'RE NOT SURE WHY THE REPORTER AT THE ISLAND PACKET WAS TOLD THAT WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND . BUT THE OP IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE IS TRUE.
OKAY SO NOW I'M GOING TO TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO ADMIRAL JOHN STUFFLEBEEM.
HE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS YOU FOR JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES. ON BEHALF OF THE FOUNDATION FOR VETERANS HOUSING. ADMIRAL THANK YOU, TONY. I JUST WANT TO MENTION I OFFER MY BRIEF REMARKS THAT I CAN BE HEARD OF AND SOMEBODY WILL GIVE YOU A THUMBS UP.
YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. AND CHAIRMAN GLOVER AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COMMITTEE ,IN THE INTEREST OF THE LIMITED TIME ALLOTTED, I ONLY HAVE THREE MESSAGES TO LEAVE WITH YOU SO I'M GOING TO WAIT FOR THIS POINT AS A COMBAT VETERAN I CAN BE BLUNT. SO WHAT DO YOU DO FOR THAT I'M TRYING TO BE BLUNT.
I'M HERE TO DO A TEST AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NONPROFIT LOWCOUNTRY VETERANS HOUSING NOMINATION IN REPRESENTING THE NAVAL AND DISABLED FIRST RESPONDERS AS AN ADVOCATE AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THIS MAGNANIMOUS OFFER IF APPROVED MINIMIZING DEVELOPMENT HAVE MADE WORKING FAVORABLE HOUSING FOR DISABLED VETS AND THE SINGLE FIRST RESPONDERS AS WELL AS PROVISION FOR VETERANS A REBUILT STORAGE SPACE AT THE PROPOSED MUSEUM. THIS IS THE FIRST BEST OFFER THAT WE'VE BEEN INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN PARTNERING OUR FOUNDATION. WE ARE GRATEFUL AND HUMBLED TO THE FINANCIAL BENEFICIARY. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THIS IS AN EXCITING TO THE HEROES IN YOUR COMMUNITY. BUT I MUST TELL YOU AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT WE WERE TAKEN ABACK AT THE STRONG PUSHBACK FROM THE RIVER VALLEY PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN COMMISSIONERS CHALLENGED OUR MOTIVES AND AS WE PRESENTED OUR ATTENTION TO THEM LATE LAST WE PRESENTED AN ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS FOR MORE THAN 2 HOURS AND YET THEY RECOMMENDED AGAINST US AND LESS THAN 60 SECONDS WHETHER INTENTIONAL OR BASED ON THE VERY CLEAR MESSAGE TO OUR FOUNDATION AND THE DESERVING VETERANS THAT WE HOPE TO REPRESENT THAT WE'RE NOT WELCOME BE OVERCOME. BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY ARE NOT THE DECISION MAKERS THAT ONLY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE. SO WE'RE ANXIOUS TO KNOW BY YOUR ACTIONS WHETHER YOU'VE OR COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY INTEREST IN SUPPORTING DISABLED AMERICAN MILITARY AND DISABLED FIRST RESPONDERS INCLUDING MORE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, THE MOST CRITICAL HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS IN YOUR COUNTY FOR OUR FUTURE WORK OR REINFORCE THE CLEAR MESSAGE THAT WE ARE IN FACT NOT WELCOME IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND SHOULD GO ELSEWHERE.
AND WITH THAT THANK YOU. I RESPECTFULLY THAT YOU CONSIDER A FAVORABLE OPINION ON THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU, ADMIRAL.
ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, I HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE. OH, OKAY.
SO THE CHOICE IS YOURS? YES. AND AND ENGAGE IN FINISHING THIS DRAFT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. YEAH.
IF IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HAD THE TIME TO READ IT YET IT IS VERY ONE SIDED.
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ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY. WE HAVE THROWN EVERYTHING BUT THE KITCHEN SINK INTO THAT DRAFT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE VOTING YES FOR THE PROJECT.IT MEANS YOU'RE VOTING YES TO CRAFT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT.
MAY WORK FOR THE COUNTY AND TO PRESENT THAT DEVELOPMENT IN APRIL OR MAY TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR ITS. THAT'S A OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO IS THE VOTE NOW TO ENGAGE US IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT KNOWING THAT THESE OTHER CONSEQUENCES WILL TAKE PLACE.
THERE WILL BE NO 24 UNIT VETERANS, FIRST RESPONDERS, SMART HOME HOUSING AT VERY AFFORDABLE RATES SUBSIDIZED BY THE FOUNDATION. YOU KNOW IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE THAT A VETERAN OR FIRST RESPONDER WOULD LIVE THERE RENT FREE.
THE FILM THE FOUNDATION WILL SUBSIDIZE WORKFORCE RENTS WHICH ARE ALREADY LOW ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ZERO IF NEED BE ADDITION TO GIVING OTHER REALLY GOOD BENEFITS TO THAT VETERAN LIKE TRANSPORTATION TO MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS AND, OTHER THINGS. WE EXPOUNDED ON ALL OF THAT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN IN DECEMBER TO NO AVAIL. SO THAT WOULD BE OFF THE TABLE THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE THAT SOME OF THEM WANT NO GROWTH BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT PARTICULAR AREA WOULD HAVE WAS THE OPPORTUNITY OF TWO TO VISIT OFTEN BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET A CHARMING WALKABLE VILLAGE WITH A DELIGHTFUL PARK AND A BANDSHELL FOR MUSIC AND OTHER SMALL EVENTS THAT'LL BE OFF THE TABLE.
AND FINALLY, YOU KNOW, WE WE DON'T WANT TO BE HERE FOR FREE $625,000 A YEAR IN ANNUAL TAXES 19 MILLION OR SO PRESENT VALUE 50 YEARS. SO THE CHOICE IS YOURS.
YES TO ENGAGE OR NO AND I THINK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS TIME AND IT'S THE FIVE OF YOU THAT WE'VE MET WITH FOR YOUR INTEREST AND WISDOM IN HELPING US ALONG THE WAY WOULD YOU STAY THERE FOR SOME QUESTION? I THINK FOR MCGILL AND HAVE A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT OWNERSHIP. YES. YOU STILL MR..
YES YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. GETTING SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE CURRENT OWNERSHIP OF THE PARCELS THAT THE PARCELS OWNED BY EIGHT PARTIES. I THINK A COUPLE OF THEM ARE LLC IS THE OTHERS ARE INDIVIDUALS. WE ARE THE CONTRACT OWNERS MEANING WE HAVE CONTRACTS TO PURCHASE THOSE PROPERTIES AT A FIXED PRICE SUBJECT ONLY TO APPROVALS ON THE ZONING AND AND SITE PLAN. THANK YOU.
OKAY. ANY ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. YES, GO AHEAD, MR. MILLS STARTING WHEN WE MET.
I REPRESENT DISTRICT SIX WHICH MOST PEOPLE KNOW IS SUN CITY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO RIVERSIDE.
YUP. AND I MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT MY DISTRICT NO CHANGE IN ZONING AND IS NOT WELCOMING TO ANY FURTHER ANYTHING I WANT 17 YOUR ESTATE YOUR GROUPING IS IN LOGAN'S DISTRICT AND I BELIEVE MADE IT CLEAR TO YOU AND WHEN I MET WITH YOU AND SENATOR DAVIS INTRODUCTION THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION OF VETERAN HOUSING THAT CAME UP WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENED IN OCTOBER NOVEMBER. YOU AND I MET LATE AUGUST AND I WAS PRETTY CLEAR ON ON WHAT DISTRICT SIX PEOPLE WOULD NOT WANT SOMEONE 70 YEAR ADD AND THE CONGESTION WHEN 70 AND THE REAL ISSUE IS I MEAN I'M JUST LOOKING TRAFFIC YOU SHOWED TRAFFIC IF YOU TAKE TRAFFIC COMING SOUTH IN THE MORNING IT IS BUMPER TO BUMPER YOU TAKE TRAFFIC GOING NORTH IN THE EVENING IT IS BUMPER TO BUMPER .
SO THIS IS AND THIS IS OUR MAIN GATE FROM SUN CITY. IT IS THE MOST USED GATE OTHER THAN THE FRONT GATE WITH I FORGET HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF CARS COME OUT OF THERE THAT HAD NUMEROUS ACCIDENTS THERE, NUMEROUS ACCIDENTS AT THE DELAWARE BOULEVARD TO ADD ANY FURTHER DENSITY. THIS AREA IS PROBLEMATIC AND I BELIEVE MADE THAT CLEAR YOU'RE
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ABSOLUTELY CORRECT WHICH. I THINK I SAID IN IN MY REMARKS BUT NOW THAT YOU'VE EXPANDED UPON THAT YEAH THAT WAS THE MESSAGE I GOT FROM OUR MEETING FROM THE MEETING WITH LOGAN AND FROM OTHERS THAT SAID, YOU KNOW THERE'S A PROCESS AND SINCE OUR TRAFFIC REPORT WHICH IS 140 PAGES ON FILE WITH THE APPLICATION IS BENIGN AND SINCE THE COUNTY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TESTIFIED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN DECEMBER THAT THEY AGREED WITH THE TRAFFIC REPORT SO MUCH SO THAT WHEN ASKED BY THE COMMISSION SHOULD WE INSTALL A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT DAVIS ROAD? THE ANSWER WAS THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH VOLUME TO WARRANT IT. SO HERE WE ARE. WE HAVE A 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S PAINTED YELLOW ALL OVER THAT REGION AND YELLOW MEANS NEIGHBORHOOD USE.WE HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT SAYS WE'RE NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE ALREADY CONGESTED 140 AND WE HAVE AN OVERLAY THAT WANTS IT TO BE AGRICULTURAL AND NATURAL WHICH IT IS NOT.
SO THERE IS REALLY REASON TO VOTE NO BECAUSE VOTERS HAVE TOLD YOU THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT. YOU NEED TO GO WITH THE PROCESS .
NOW IF THE TRAFFIC REPORT HAD TURNED OUT NEGATIVE YOU'D HAVE A REASON FOR WHAT I'M SAYING.
BUT LOOK, HERE'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THERE'S AN ENORMOUS COMMUNITY BENEFIT HERE. OUR COMPANY WANTS TO DEVELOP HOUSING WITH PUBLIC BENEFITS VERY, VERY RARE THAT YOU FIND THIS IN THE LOWCOUNTRY IT'S MOSTLY ROOFTOPS LIKE THE DEVELOPER OF SUN CITY. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A VERY MODEST SIZED PROJECT WHICH WILL NOT IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT WHICH WILL NOT AT THE TRAFFIC COUNTY TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS PRETTY MUCH CERTIFIED THAT WE'RE THE PUBLIC BENEFIT SO WHAT WHAT YOUR JOB IS YOU KNOW ONE OF MY SLIDES WHICH I GLOSSED OVER THE MISSION OF THE OF THIS COMMITTEE AS STATED ON YOUR WEBSITE IS TO ENTER INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER. THAT'S WHAT IT ON ONE OF MY SLIDES THAT WE GLOSSED OVER SO SO ALL I'M ASKING HERE TODAY IS TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
THERE'S A STUDY I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW PUTTING 244 UNITS IN IT CONGESTED AREA AND DOESN'T IMPACT TRAFFIC BUT I'LL LET THAT GO. AND IT ALSO SAID TO HAVE A OFFERED ROAD HAVE A LEFT TURN AND A RIGHT TURN WHERE IN THE HECK ARE THEY GOING TO TURN LEFT? THERE'S A MEDIAN THERE. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE YOU CAN READ THE TRAFFIC REPORT AND I READ IT. IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
YOU'RE ADDING 244 UNITS WITH ONE, TWO OR THREE PEOPLE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT TRAFFIC AND OTHER THING I WOULD NOT PRESUME IF THIS COMMITTEE DOESN'T APPROVE THIS THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT DISABLED VETERANS. SUN CITY IS DRAWING VETERANS SO PLEASE DON'T MAKE ANY PRESUMPTION THAT WE DON'T VETERANS OR FIRST RESPONDERS OF WHICH MY SON ONE YEAH SO I'M JUST LAYING IT OUT THERE PLEASE DON'T MAKE THAT PRESUMPTION I DON'T THINK I DID WHAT I SAID. WHAT? NO, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I SAID . IT WAS RIGHT THERE ON A SLIDE. WHAT I SAID WAS IF YOU VOTE NO TO NOT ENTERTAIN US WHEN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THEN YOU WILL HAVE LOST THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT PROJECT. I SAY YOU WEREN'T SUPPORTING THEM.
THAT WAS YOUR INFERENCE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTION AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO HEAR HIS STAFF ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC STUDY BECAUSE I READ IT TO IF I COULD JUST TRAFFIC ENGINEER HERE ROBERT WE WERE TOLD LOOK YOU KNOW I MEAN JUST TELL US WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF THE BILL LAST NIGHT AND I WAS AT THE DECEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BUT JUST LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF AGAIN I MET YOU EARLIER. YES, MY NAME IS KEVIN SULLIVAN.
I'M A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER FOR THE COUNTY ENGINEER. OKAY.
WE DID HAVE THE APPLICANT PERFORM A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AT THE LAST MEETING.
THERE WERE SCENARIOS IN THAT PARTICULAR ANALYSIS THAT ASSUMED IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE APPLICANT DID NOT HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER SO WITH THOSE ASSUMPTIONS IN CERTAIN
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INSTANCES THE ACTUAL LEVEL OF SERVICES THAT IN THE SECTIONS THEY DID LOOK GOOD BUT SINCE THEN HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT THAT AND EVEN AT THE LAST PRESENTATION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THEIR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS UNDER REVIEW.THE COUNTY DIDN'T NECESSARILY APPROVE IT BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER REVIEW SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY ARE FUNDED EITHER CORRECT RIGHT. RIGHT RIGHT. SO THERE SO THOSE ASSUMPTIONS NON STOP UNKNOWN THAT MEANS THEY DON'T HAPPEN RIGHT IF THEY'RE NOT FUNDED THEY WON'T HAPPEN. THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD COULD HAVE COULD HAVE HELPED THIS DEVELOPMENT. OKAY THANK YOU. I THINK THAT ANSWERS ONE QUESTION AT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT THOSE UNFUNDED IMPROVEMENTS ARE ? IF IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THERE WERE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE IN OUR ORIGINAL PLAN WITH RESPECT TO THE OUR CUT SCENARIO WITH THE REFERENDUM. OKAY.
SO SO WHEN ASKED BY THE COMMISSION IF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL SHOULD BE INSTALLED AT DAVIS ROAD THE ANSWER WAS NO BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT THESE UNFUNDED IMPROVEMENTS OCCUR WELL THEN THEY WOULD PLEASE DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO COUNCIL PLEASE NO PROBLEM.
SO THEY DO YOU WANT TO GET INTO SPECIFICS? I MEAN I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL DRAFT STUDY IN FRONT ME SO I CAN'T NECESSARILY RECALL EXACTLY EVERY ROAD AND EVERY SINGLE SIGNAL. SO BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE DOCUMENTED THAT IN EXCLUSIVE LEFT TURN LANE ALONG DAVIS ROAD TO PROVIDE SEPARATE LEFT AND RIGHT TURN EGRESS MAINS FROM DAVIS ROAD ONTO S C 170 THIS AND WE PROVIDE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SO THERE WERE THREE SCENARIOS COUNCIL THAT THERE WERE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS I CAN'T RECALL EXACTLY WHICH SCENARIO HE'S TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT BUT IF THAT PARTICULAR SCENARIO ASSUMES SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS YOU COULDN'T CONTROL YOUR DESTINY MEANING YOU GUYS NEEDED HELP IN TO DO THAT THEN THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. THAT'S WHY WE WERE SAYING THAT WE COULDN'T SUPPORT IT BECAUSE YOU GUYS NEEDED HELP ORDER TO GET THAT DONE AND WHEN WE SAID HELP THAT GOES BACK TO THE FUNDING TO GET THE ACTUAL PIECE OF THAT PROJECT DONE.
ALL OF THIS IS A GOOD REASON TO IN THE PREPARATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BECAUSE THE FUNDING IS A PROBLEM. YOU KNOW IT'S IT BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN HELP WITH YOU KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS CAN'T BE ANSWERED YOU KNOW IN A PUBLIC FORUM WHICH IS AGAIN, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE ENORMOUS PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT THIS PROJECT BRINGS, IT'S KIND OF WORTH OUR TIME TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK NOW THAT WE KNOW I THINK WE KNOW THAT THE OVERLAY ZONE AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY IS KIND OF BEHIND US IF TRAFFIC IS AN ISSUE AND WE CAN'T SOLVE IT, WELL THEN THAT WON'T BE A GOOD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE COUNCIL HAS RIGHT TO VOTE NO BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE WORKED HAND IN HAND IN ORDER TO TO GET TO THAT POINT. SURE.
OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? NO.
MR. GORDON WAS PESSIMIST AS I UNDERSTAND IT AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG MR. MERCHANT BEFORE US IS AN ORDINANCE TO BE RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL FOR AMENDING THE ZONING HERE IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING DO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME THAT WOULD BE PART AND PARCEL OF THE FINAL APPROVAL, CORRECT? CORRECT I MEAN WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA IS THE ZONING AND THE OFFER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS FOR VETERANS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ZONING AMENDMENT THROUGH THE VEHICLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. OKAY. AND BY THE THIRD READING A FORMALIZED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN PLACE.
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YES. USUALLY THAT WAY THE THE TWO ARE KIND OF HINGED ON EACH OTHER THE UP ZONING AND THE SIGNING OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.OKAY. THE SECOND QUESTION IF IT IS DEFEATED THIS POINT IN TIME, DOES IT STILL HAVE TO GO BEFORE FULL COUNCIL? YES.
GO AHEAD. SO WHO EXACTLY WORKS WITH WITH MR. ESTRADA AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. HE KEEPS ALLUDING TO COUNCIL WELL AND IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE DONE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT I THINK IT'S BEEN ABOUT FIVE YEARS BUT TYPICALLY IN THE PAST AND THIS IS REALLY UP TO COUNCIL IN THE PAST COUNCIL EVEN HAS SET UP AN AD HOC COMMITTEE OF MEMBERS YOU KNOW IN THE DISTRICT WHERE IT'S OCCURRING THAT'S OPTION AND IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DONE VERY IN VERY CLOSE CONJUNCTION WITH STAFF IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AS WELL THAT YOU KNOW ULTIMATELY AND I I'M WRONG.
I MEAN IT'S A AGREEMENT BETWEEN AND THE DEVELOPER SO COUNCIL IS PART OF THAT NEGOTIATION BUT THE STAFF WOULD NOT BEGIN WORKING ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT UNLESS AND UNTIL IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL INDICATED THEY WERE INTERESTED IN AND.
THIS PROPERTY HAS TO BE UP ZONED YET TO BE MOVING TOWARDS UP ZONING THIS PROPERTY BEFORE THAT WOULD OCCUR IT THIS OKAY OKAY NO OTHER QUESTIONS LET ME TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE ALL THE OUTLINE UNDER SECTION CDC SECTION 7.3.40 WILL BE DASH SEVEN THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT PROVIDES COUNCIL HAS TO ONE APPROVE OF THE AS SUBMITTED TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH A REDUCTION IN THE AREA PROPOSED TO BE RESOLVED THREE APPROVED OVER REZONING TO A MORE RESTRICTED BASE ZONE THAN REQUESTED IN THE APPLICATION AND NUMBER FOUR THE DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION THAT'S WHERE WE ARE YES AND I WANTED YOU WANT TO ADD ANOTHER ONE WELL YEAH MADE IT WE MADE AN UPDATE BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE THIS AS IT IS THERE'S DISCUSSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT STAFF WANTED TO BRING FORWARD POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY YOU KNOW TO CONSIDER IN COUNCIL'S MOTION THE FIRST WOULD BE IN WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STAFF IN THE PLANNING RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONING SO THAT'S ONE OPTION WITH YOU KNOW THE CONDITIONS YOU KNOW THAT ARE PART OF THE CRITERIA THAT REZONING THE SECOND WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT COUNSEL ENTER INTO NEGOTIATE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO THE DETAILS HAVING TO DO WITH THE UNITS OR THE MASTER PLAN ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONS OR EVEN HOW THE WETLANDS ARE ENCROACHING ON ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE WORKED OUT THROUGH THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROCESS. SO YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. AND THE THIRD OPTION AND THIS IS COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE COULD APPROVE THE OPPORTUNITY WITH NO CONDITIONS BUT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT PERMITTED IN THE C-3 DISTRICT COULD BE COULD BE DONE ON THAT PROPERTY OKAY I'M GOING TO FOLLOW THE STAFF AT THIS TIME WITH THOSE THREE RECOMMENDATION I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ONE AND THERE'S A SECOND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND IF THERE IS AN AMENDMENT TO THAT WE'LL DO THE AMENDMENT UNTIL WE GET THIS RESOLVED I'LL MAKE A MOTION YES MA'AM. I MOVE THAT WE DENY THIS ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE ZONING AS MENTIONED AND I CAN CITE THE REASONS AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME MY MOTION IS TO DENY THE AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING CAME THE STEP NAKED MOVE TO DENY IS THERE SECOND O SECOND MOTION MISS HOWEVER THE SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS INSTEAD OF JUST THE REASON IT WAS ISSUED REASONS I'LL I'M GETTING MY REASONS IT NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE CODE AND THE PURPOSES OF THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE IT IS IN WITH PROVISIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THEIR CODE OF ORDINANCES. IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING PROPOSED USE OF THE LAND SURROUNDING THESE LANDS. IT WOULD NOT RESULT IN LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS. IT WOULD RESULT IN AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND WATER, AIR AND NOISE, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ETC. AND IT WOULD RESULT IN
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DEVELOPMENT THAT ADEQUATELY SERVED BY PUBLIC FACILITIES. THAT IS TRUE.THOSE ARE MY REASONS TO DENY THE LIST. WHAT WOULD YOU WANT THEN IN THE AREA FOR DENIAL WELL MEAN IT'S TRUE. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT'S NOT RIGHT IS IT IS YEAH OKAY. IS THAT PART OF YOUR SECOND ZONE? YES. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT VETERANS ON BOTH SIDES MY FAMILY FIRST COUSINS, MY FATHER MY UNCLES, MY AUNT WE'RE ALL IN THE MILITARY SEVERAL OF THEM ARE DISABLED BY NOT BY VOTING DENY THIS I AM NOT VOTING AGAINST VETERANS I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR AND I THINK I YOU KNOW THIS IS ADMIRABLE. WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST NOT THE RIGHT FOR IT IN MY OPINION AND TO CHANGE THE ZONING I WILL NOT BE I WILL NOT BE MADE GUILTY BY SAYING I'M NOT SUPPORTING VETERANS ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION OF ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY REASON YOU HAD YOUR VOTING TO DENY TO THE TO EXACTLY WHAT MUST HAVE HAPPEN THE MOTION YOU VOTED FOR THE REASONS LISTED TAB JUST YES YOU'RE IN VOTING RAISE YOUR HAND OKAY OKAY IT IS UNANIMOUS THANK YOU THAT WAS THAT WAS A NOVEL? YEAH YEAH WE'RE MOVING THE AGENDA AND I AGREE WITH BOTH MRS. HOWARD AND MRS. TAPENADE A VOTE TO DENY DOES NOT HAVE ANY BEARING ON OUR VETERANS WE ARE IN THE COUNTY THAT HAS A LOT OF VETERANS AND WE DO SUPPORT THE VETERANS SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT PROPOSAL AT ALL .
OKAY OKAY OKAY. WE'RE DOWN TO NUMBER EIGHT AND BEFORE I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR
[8. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP FOR 121.43 ACRES (R600 013 000 0008 0000, R600 013 000 0050 0000, R600 013 000 0105 0000, R600 013 000 0104 0000) LOCATED ON OKATIE HIGHWAY FROM T2 RURAL (T2R) TO T4 NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER (T4NC) AND T3 NEIGHBORHOOD- OPEN (T3N-O) USING A VILLAGE PLACE TYPE OVERLAY (PTO) - Rob Merchant, AICP, Director, Beaufort County Planning and Zoning]
YOU AND MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THE ROOM I THIS ONE OKAY.YOU MAY WANT TO YEAH. OKAY. MRS. IS RECUSING YOURSELF AT THIS TIME SO SHE'S LEAVING THE ROOM AND BEFORE I CALL ON STAFF TO COME FORWARD TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION. OH WELL LET ME GET A MOTION FIRST FOR YOUR READ ON THIS FOR DISCUSSION NUMBER EIGHT READ IT YOU HAVE TO READ IT FIRST. OH YES, SIR.
YES, SIR. A REVIEW OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ZONING MAP FOR 121.43 ACRES LOCATED ON OKATIE HIGHWAY FROM TEE TO RULE TO T FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND T THREE NEIGHBORHOOD OPEN A VILLAGE PLACE TYPE OVERLY CONCEPT THE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DISCUSS SO OKAY YOU THE PART THAT'S THE 1/2 ABOUT MR. DAWSON SO WE ARE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME BUT BEFORE WE GET TO THE CHAIR WE'LL TAKE THE THE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM MRS. KILLEEN. IS IT KICKING? DID I PRONOUNCE THAT I MISSED THE LAST 30 MINUTES. PLEASE COME FORWARD. SHE WANTS TO SPEAK THIS AND BECAUSE SHE'S PROBABLY COME IN, GOT CAUGHT UP IN TRAFFIC ETC. I'M USING EXCUSE FOR YOU SO THIS EXCEPT THAT SHE WAS NOT HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING SHE WANTS TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT SO WE GOING TO RECEIVE THIS AS PUBLIC COMMENT THANK YOU.
SEEM TO SERVE I NAME'S KATHLEEN KEATING I LIVED AT 130 23. ROAD FOR 22 YEARS.
I'M HERE TO ASK THAT YOU NOT ONLY VOTE AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT BUT THAT CONSIDER THIS WHOLE TOPIC. CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING MORATORIUM ON ALL DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING PROPOSALS UNTIL. INVENTORY IS TAKEN OF FUTURE HOUSING UNITS UNDER APPROVAL AND CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT NOT ONLY UNDER YOUR AUSPICES BUT THOSE IN BLUFFTON AS WELL WITH GREAT CONSIDERATION WITH WHAT IS ON IN JASPER COUNTY. THIS INVENTORY WOULD INCLUDE ALL UNITS INCLUDING APARTMENTS, CONDOS, TOWNHOUSES AND HOMES AS WELL THOSE FOR SALE.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT AN INVENTORY SHOULD BE TAKEN OF AVAILABLE UNITS BOTH RENTAL
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AND FOR SALE UNDER YOUR AUSPICES AND THOSE OF BLUFFTON. I BELIEVE YOU'LL BE SURPRISED.WHILE THE NEW INVENTORY SEEMS TO BE FILLING ITSELF IN MANY, OTHER AVAILABILITIES ARE LANGUISHING. I AM WILLING TO BET THAT EIGHT TIMES OUT OF TEN FOLKS MOVING INTO THE NEW ARE UPGRADING HUMAN. MY POINT IS THAT BETWEEN WHAT IS CURRENTLY AND WHAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE I BELIEVE YOU WILL FIND A GLUT IN HOUSING NOW YOU . NOW YOU MAY THINK A LARGE OVERSTOCK IN THESE AREAS IS NECESSARY BUT. I'VE BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH AND I BELIEVE THAT GIVEN THE CURRENT CLIMATE IN THIS COUNTRY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START SITTING TIGHT RATHER THAN RELOCATE AND. EVEN IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT, THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE IN 21 AND 2022 THE COUNTY POPULATION INCREASED BY APPROXIMATELY 4150 EACH YEAR IN 2023 AND 2024 IT WAS AROUND 2830. THAT'S A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE AND ONE THAT JUSTIFIES CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF THIS TREND CONTINUES YOU WILL BE FACED WITH GHOST BUILDINGS AND A PETRI DISH FOR CRIME.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IS A PERFECT TIME FOR A TEMPORARY HALT AND AN AUDIT A PERFECT TIME TO PUT THE BRAKES ON BUDGET. SO PLEASE CONSIDER MORATORIUM.
LET'S LOOK AT THE NUMBERS WHAT IS AVAILABLE, WHAT IS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTION AND THAT WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND NOT BEGUN LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY JUSTIFICATION TO THE CONTINUED AND DESTRUCTION OF OUR CORNER OF THE LOW COUNTRY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. WOULD YOU GIVE YOU A TELEPHONE NUMBER OR CONTACT INFORMATION SO WE CAN COMPLETE THIS? YES YES. YES.
THANK YOU. OKAY. WHO'S A MR. MERCHANT? THANK YOU WELL OKAY SO THIS PROPOSED MAP AMENDMENT IS OCCURRING AT THE INTERSECTION OF CHERRY POINT ROAD AND 170 IN FRONT. WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF THE SCHOOL SITE FOR A GOOD ELEMENTARY AND ALSO SOUTH OF THE RIVER OAKS SUBDIVISION AND MAILING BLUFF. AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP HERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP THE EXISTING ZONING THAT THAT'S IN THE PINK THAT'S MARLIN BLUFF AND RIVER OAKS THE DARK GREEN ALONG THE RIVER IS THE CHERRY POINT SUBDIVISION AND THE REMAINING GREEN PARCELS EXCEPT FOR THE ONE RIGHT AT THE CORNER CHERRY POINT ROAD. THAT ONE'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS A DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNER THAT ALL OF THOSE ARE PART OF THIS REZONING AND I WANTED TO START OUT BY YOU KNOW THERE'S TALK A LAND SWAP FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SO OKATIE ELEMENTARY IS LOCATED IT'S ACTUALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP IT IS THE RECTANGULAR PARCEL IS NOT ON 170. IT'S THE GREEN ONE THAT SITS OFF OF 170 KIND OF FRAMED BY RIVER OAKS AND MAITLAND BLUFF AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHEN THEY PURCHASED THAT THEY PURCHASED THAT OTHER THAT PROPERTY THAT'S TRACED BY RED RIGHT NEXT TO MAIL IN BLUFF ON 70 SO THEY HAD THAT WITH THE GOING 20 YEARS THE IDEA OF BUILDING DISTRICT OFFICES THERE AND YOU KNOW THOSE PLANS LOOK LIKE THEY'VE CHANGED IN THEY THEY SETTLED INTO THE MAKE POINT FACILITIES AND SO THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN SITTING THERE AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING JUST FROM THE SCHOOL SITE AREA IT'S NOT VERY TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS THE SCHOOL SITE BECAUSE IT'S NOT QUITE THE THRESHOLD FOR EVEN AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS THE DEVELOPER WOULD HE WOULD GET THAT PROPERTY WHICH IS A PRIME DEVELOPMENT SITE BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT ON THE HIGHWAY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD GET PROPERTY THAT'S LOCATED ON CHERRY POINT ROAD TOWARD THE REAR WHERE IT ABUTS THE CHERRY POINT NEIGHBORHOOD AND DARK GREEN ON THERE SO THEY WOULD GET A LARGE LOT OVER THERE SO IT CREATES A MUCH MORE IDEAL SCHOOL SITE FOR A FUTURE. IT ALSO CREATES A BUFFER BETWEEN THIS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND RIVER OAKS. SO THAT'S KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THAT PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND IN ADDITION TO THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING WHAT WE CALL PLACE OVERLAY AND IN IN OUR CONFERENCE A PLAN AND I THINK ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE EARLIER WE HAVE A FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT PROVIDES GENERALIZED LAND USE AND DENSITIES IN THE COUNTY AND
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THEN ON TOP OF THAT WE HAVE THIS MAP CALLED PLACE TYPE OVERLAY AND WHAT THAT DOES IS WHERE YOU HAVE A CIRCLE ON THERE IT'S SAYING THAT THAT'S AN AREA WHERE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR SOME OF WALKABLE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THE REASON THIS SITE WAS CHOSEN IS BECAUSE OF THE PARTIES AND THAT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT IT CREATED THE FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF ENHANCING THAT AND HAVING MORE OF A WALKABLE COMMUNITY AROUND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU SOME BACKGROUND IN THE WHAT THE PLACE TYPE OVERLAY IS IS ARE ARE ZONING ORDINANCE LAYS OUT IF YOU HAVE THAT DESIGNATION THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THEN THIS REZONING A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A STRAIGHT FORWARD CHANGING THE MAP FROM ONE ZONING DISTRICT TO ANOTHER YOU'RE ADOPTING SERIES OF DISTRICTS AND IN ADDITION TO THAT YOU'RE ADOPTING THE ROAD NETWORK WHERE THE THE OPEN SPACE IS LOCATED.
SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE OF A MASTER PLAN THAN A TYPICAL UPSKIRTING.
SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY YOU KNOW WHEN THIS IS USED TO CREATE A YOU KNOW HAVE MORE PREDICTABILITY IN THE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO OCCUR SO THAT IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO WITH THIS PARTICULAR REZONING AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW AND AS FAR THE STAFF IN OUR EVALUATION OF THIS, YOU KNOW THE LOCATION, THE FUTURE LANE YOU SMELL ALL OF THOSE THINGS LINE UP YOU KNOW FOR THIS TO BE AN AREA THAT WHERE THIS TYPE OF OF UP COULD OCCUR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN OF IN PLAY HERE AND I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK AND THEN OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNERS HERE AS WELL IS THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS ANALYSIS FOR PARTICULAR SITE AND SPECIFICALLY THE CONDITIONS AT THE INTERSECTION OF CHERRY POINT ROAD. ONE OF OUR CONCERNS IS THAT FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO 170 ARE MUCH LESS CERTAIN TODAY THAN THEY WERE EVEN SIX MONTHS AGO WHEN WE HAD A REFERENDUM AND A POSSIBLE LEVY OF FUNDING IMPROVEMENTS.
AND I THINK YOU ALL ARE AWARE WE HAVE PLAN IN PLACE FOR 170 TO ADDRESS CONGESTION AND THAT YOU KNOW THAT NOW IS NOT FUNDED SO WE DON'T KNOW AND WE CAN'T REALLY THE FUTURE WHEN WE WILL HAVE A SUCCESSFUL RENDER REFERENDUM ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE STEP IN TO FUND THAT AND SO OUR CONCERN THAT WITHOUT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH OPTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS THESE INTERSECTIONS TO KEEP THEM FROM FAILING OR WORSE IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO WHEN WE AT STAFF RECOMMENDATION WE HAVE NINE CRITERIA I COULDN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER THAT WE USE. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU KNOW, IF OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS THAT WE ARE IN DENIAL IT COULD BE JUST OF THOSE THAT THAT STANDS IN THE WAY AND OUR CONCERN HERE IS IT BASICALLY IT MAY BE THE RIGHT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THE TIMING IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE FAILING OF THAT INTERSECTION. WE DO NOT ADEQUATE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE ROAD THAT WE BELIEVE VANESSA TO ADDRESS THIS DEVELOPMENT IN IN OUR RECOMMENDATION WE SAY IS THAT IF COUNCIL DOES WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT THIS APPLICATION DOES HAVE A LOT OF MERITS THAT THESE THINGS AND THIS IS GOING TO SOUND VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS GOING TO BE THE TOOL THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY AND ONE OF THE THINGS TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CAN DO FOR ONE THING I THINK IT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO MEMORIALIZE THIS LAND SWAP AND MAKE THAT PART OF THIS THIS MASTER PLAN.
BUT IT ALSO COULD BE USED TO PUT TIMING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO SAY THAT ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF ROOFTOPS COULD BE BUILT BEFORE OR CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS OFF SITE OR OTHER ARE DONE. AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION TO STAFF WE BELIEVE THAT THIS THE TIMING IS NOT FAVORABLE TO UNDERGO THIS CHANGE THAT IF COUNCIL DOES WANT TO MOVE FORWARD THAT THAT TIMING ISSUE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CAREFULLY CONSIDERED WITHIN AGREEMENT. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I HAVE AND I THINK I'D BE WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR IF YOU NEED FURTHER I THINK YOU MENTIONED THE TRAFFIC IMPACT
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YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT NOW. YEAH THE CONCERN AND I DON'T THINK I COULD HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER THAN MR. MERCHANT I LIKE WE HAD REAL STRONG RESERVATIONS FOR THE PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICES OF COURSE OUR ORDINANCE SAYS THAT YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE FOR THINGS TO STAY AT A LEVEL OF SERVICE D OR BETTER SO YOU KNOW IN THE PREVIOUS TIME WE REALIZED THAT WE WOULD HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT SO IT'S ACTUALLY THE COUNTY'S PREFERENCE UNLESS WE SEE SOMETHING AS EXTRAORDINARY COMING FROM IT COMING FROM AN APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, TO TO HAVE THE REGIONAL IMPROVEMENT IN PLACE WHICH WOULD BE THE FIX ON 170 BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. OKAY.ANY COUNCILMEMBER I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. MERCHANT OR YES, SIR.
MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE HEARD THAT MARLIN BLUFF AND RIVER OAKS ARE TWO DEVELOPMENTS THERE THAT WILL HAVE AND HAVE HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT NOT ONLY ON THAT AREA BUT 170 QUESTION ONE WERE EITHER ONE OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS DONE BEFORE THE VILLAGE TYPE OVERLAY WAS PLACE ? YES. WHAT HAPPENED THERE WAS THESE THOSE PADS WERE APPROVED IN 2007 2008 I CAN'T REMEMBER THE YEAR IN AT THAT SAME TIME A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS WAS DONE SO THOSE DECISIONS WERE MADE BEFORE WE EVEN DEVELOPED THE PLACE OVERLAY THAT THAT GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO WHEN THOSE PADS WERE DEVELOPED IN ACTUALLY WHERE THE HOSPITAL IS AND THERE'S A PASSIVE COUNTY PARK THAT WAS ANOTHER PART BUT THEN THAT DURING THE RECESSION IN RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PRESERVATION PROGRAM THOUGHT THAT PROPERTIES SO THE ORIGINALLY THERE WERE THREE PARTIES THAT KIND OF IN CONJUNCTION WITH EACH OTHER AND HAD CONNECTIVITY TO THE SCHOOL SO THAT THREE 433 OAK RIVER OAKS MEDIAN BLUFF IN THAT ONE THAT WAS BOUGHT BY THE COUNTY IS OKATIE WELL SOME OF THE OKATIE SO THIS ONE THIS OF HERE WAS DONE A PART OF IT NO THIS IS SO BUT THAT WAS THE RATIONALE WHEN THE COUNTY UPDATE IS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO DESIGNATE THAT AS THE PLACE OVERLAY BECAUSE WE HAD THOSE PADS WE HAD THE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OKAY OKAY SO THE SECOND QUESTION WAS YOU STATED THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE AS PART OF THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW IT TO BE CONTROLLED DEVELOPMENT SO THAT BEFORE CERTAIN THINGS IN PLACE YOU COULD MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE FAIR TO SAY YES YOU WOULD HAVE TIMING OF ROOFTOPS TO DIFFERENT WHETHER THEY'RE SITE OR OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS YOU KNOW IN ESTABLISHED THRESHOLDS AND OF COURSE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D WANT TO HAVE HEAVY INVOLVEMENT FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND TRAFFIC CONSULTANT MY LAST STATEMENT IS THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST UNIQUE PIECES OF PROPERTY IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT ALONG 170 MOST OF THE PROPERTIES EITHER UNDER CONTRACT BUILT OUT IN CONSERVATION THIS IS THE ONLY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS LEFT LIKE THAT THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED IN A CERTAIN MANNERISM AND WE TALK ABOUT HAVING SMART GROWTH .
IT IS MY DISTRICT I AM CONCERNED I HAVE LISTENED TO THE INDIVIDUALS THERE THEY HAVE VALID CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. YOU HAVE STATED THAT IN IT IS A DESIRABLE WAY OF MOVING IN THE FUTURE AND THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS HOW WE MAKE IT HAPPEN SO THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE WHAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED OVERNIGHT THAT 170 IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE DEVELOPED.
WE DON'T CONTROL A LOT OF 170 INCHES JASPER COUNTY AND ALREADY BUILT IN BLUFFTON THAT HAVE A LOT OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THERE SO. WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.
OKAY. ANY OTHER SET OF QUESTIONS? YES.
SO IN THE JANUARY SIX MEETING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS THERE AT THAT MEETING TOO.
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BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING ALTHOUGH THEY WOULD LIKE PUT A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE SWAP BUT AT THIS TIME THERE'S FUNDING CORRECT FOR A MIDDLE SCHOOL? THAT IS CORRECT. OAK, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU BECAUSE YOU SAID IT IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT YOU WOULD SO YEAH THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK WELL THANK YOU CHAIRMAN GLOVER AND THANK YOU MISS HOWARD.YES. AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT HAVE FUNDING FOR ANOTHER SCHOOL.
WE ARE OUR NEXT SCHOOL IN LINE THAT WE'RE THAT'S IN. OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL SO MOST LIKELY WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR THAT IN THE NEXT 4 TO 5 YEARS.
SO I'D SAY AT THE EARLIEST IT WENT ON THIS SITE WE'RE PROBABLY 5 TO 7 YEARS OUT FROM THAT OCCURRING IN WHAT COULD YOU PUT ALSO IN WHAT TYPE OF SCHOOL COULD YOU PUT THERE? CAN YOU PUT A SCHOOL? THERE IS THE QUESTION YES SO OBVIOUSLY WE WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BECAUSE IT'D BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT WOULDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. YOU COULD PUT AN EARLY CHILDHOOD CENTER IF WE DID NEED ANOTHER EARLY CHILDHOOD CENTER THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ALWAYS THINKING OF . OUR BOARD HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR MORE PRE-K K PROGRAMS TO EXPAND THOSE PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. A MIDDLE SCHOOL IS WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS PROPERTY FOR AS IT SITS A LITTLE OVER 30 ACRES. WE NEED 25 PLUS ACRES FOR A MIDDLE SCHOOL SO IT'S IN THAT RIGHT SWEET SPOT FOR NORMAL MIDDLE SCHOOL.
I WOULD SAY IT IS NOT A LARGE ENOUGH FOR A HIGH SCHOOL FOR A HIGH SCHOOL WE NEED MORE A FULL SIZE HIGH SCHOOL WE NEED MORE LIKE ACRES. MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL FOR EXAMPLE IS 80 ACRES SO WE REALLY COULDN'T LOOK AT THIS SITE FOR THAT PURPOSE DISTRICT OFFICE OR SOME OTHER DISTRICT FUNCTION WOULD BE ANOTHER POSSIBILITY OF BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW WE ARE INVESTING IN THE CURRENT MEETING POINT BOULEVARD SO DO NOT SEE THAT AS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING FOR THIS TIME HE CAME IN ANY OTHER QUESTION NO QUESTION PLEASE YES GO AHEAD PLEASE HE WHAT'S THE NEXT CLOSEST MIDDLE SCHOOL THE ONE THAT WOULD GO IN ON THAT PROPERTY? OH SO OF OUR PROBLEMS IS ALL OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN BLUFFTON ARE ALL THE WAY IN BLUFFTON CLOSE TOGETHER. SO BLUFFTON MIDDLE AND 80 MCCRACKEN ARE THE TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN BLUFFTON WE HAVE AND THEY'RE WITHIN A MILE OF EACH OTHER AND IS A GROWING PART OF THE COUNTY WITH MAINLAND BLUFF AND ALL OF THAT BEING DEVELOPED. WE'RE SEEING THAT AT OKATIE ELEMENTARY.
WE'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ADD ON THE MAE RIVER CAMPUS.
SO THAT'S OUR NEXT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON BUT A FUTURE MIDDLE SCHOOL WE WOULD NOT WANT IT OR IT'D BE DIFFICULT TO PUT IT CLOSE TO BLUFFTON MIDDLE OR 80 MCCRACKEN OR WE'D LIKE TO SPREAD IT OUT. SO I THINK MAYBE SOME STUDENTS GET CLOSE IS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS CLOSE IT IS TO THIS PROPERTY I MEAN I DON'T EXACT MILEAGE DOWNTOWN THE CENTRAL OF BLUFFTON IT'S KNOWN FOR LOTS OF WHAT K THROUGH EIGHT OH LOOKS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL OH OKATIE ELEMENTARY AND THE SCHOOL OH IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET OH I MEAN I DON'T KNOW IF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET AND NO NO WOULD BE PUT ASIDE FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. NO NO I'M SORRY OKATIE ELEMENTARY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET SO IT WOULD BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN ELEMENTARY SO YOU'D HAVE IT ELEMENTARY ON ONE SIDE IT'S ALREADY EXISTING IN THIS MIDDLE SCHOOL WOULD BE THERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT CLOSE IS MIDDLE SCHOOL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MCCRACKEN OR BLUFFTON MIDDLE WHICH I DON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL DISTANCE FIVE 5 TO 10 IF THEY WERE CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL LIVING THERE, HOW WOULD THEY GET TO THE NEAREST MIDDLE SCHOOL? SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ALL BUSED ON 170. WELL WHAT ABOUT THE SCHOOL IS K THROUGH EIGHT.
YEAH RIVER RIDGE YEAH I MEAN THAT IS ANOTHER MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT WE HAVE I MEAN IT DOES SERVE MIDDLE SCHOOL WOULD BE WOULDN'T MEET WELL YEAH I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THEY'RE ALL THAT AREA OF GLOSSY BOOKS. YEAH. SO OUR PROBLEM IS WE'VE TOO MUCH IN ONE GENERAL AREA AND AS THIS OF THE COUNTY GROWS IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO US. SO IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE MOVING IN NEW AND FAMILY THEY HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THEY'RE REALLY MIDDLE SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN AND IT'S GOING TO BE 5 TO 7 YEARS BEFORE THE SCHOOL IN THAT AREA AND CHILDREN WOULD BE BUS TO THE NEAREST MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT'S TO SAY YES SIR. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTION? LET ME BEFORE I OPEN MY MOUTH MR. YOU HAVE A STAFF
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RECOMMENDATION OR OPTIONS ARE THEY THE SAME AS THE LAST ONE WE TRAVEL.OH YEAH. YOU WANT ME OR I MEAN DID WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AS WELL OR DO YOU WANT US FOR IT THAT WAS O NAZARETH. YES YES I DO.
YES, YES YES. IF YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK AFTER THAT.
YES RIGHT. OKAY. JUST THE APPLICANT FOR ME.
OH OKAY. WELL THIS IS DAN KIEFFER WITH JAMES KIEFFER AND THEN YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOUR TEAM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.
KEEP ME ON KEEP ME ON TRACK TWO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND WE HAVE DYLAN TURNER OUR TRACK ENGINEER. HE'S GOING TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON TRAFFIC AND THEN IF WE NEED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE DEVELOPING AGREEMENT WE CAN THAT AS WELL.
WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS THAT GO INTO THIS SO WE APPRECIATE THE BACK AND FORTH EVENING AND WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY OF WORKING WITH ROB.
WE MET WITH ROB OVER YEAR AGO AND WE LOOKED AT OPTIONS AND THE VILLAGE PLACE TYPE YOU KNOW LOOKING AT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ,THE LONG USE PLAN FOR THE COUNTY THE VILLAGE PLACE TYPE WAS PRESENTED TO AND ROB SAID THAT'S BASICALLY THE PATH FORWARD AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT WE REALIZED THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER TASKS INVOLVED IN THAT SO GOT A FOR THIS PROPERTY A SURVEY OPEN SPACE PLANS WETLANDS WE'RE LOOKING AT TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION SO AS TO HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET IN AND GET OUT BUT ON THE SITE AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO WALK THE SITE WE'RE LOOKING AT PARKS AND OPEN SPACE DENSITIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND AS GO THROUGH THAT THERE'S THERE'LL BE PLANS THAT WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT.
I TONIGHT'S NOT THE EVENING TO GET INTO THOSE DETAILS BUT WE'LL HAVE DETAILED PLANS THAT WILL SORT OF LAYER EACH OF THOSE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND THOSE PLANS WILL SHOW WHAT'S CALLED TRANSECT ZONES THAT SHOW HIGHER INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT OR USES UP ON 170 AS YOU TRANSECT TOWARDS THE OTHER EXISTING RESIDENTIAL LOWER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT AND THEN OF COURSE THE SCHOOL SO THOSE PLANS WILL BE BECOME PART OF WHAT'S APPROVED AS THIS SO THIS IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN JUST REZONING. THIS IS A DETAILED MASTER PLAN SO YOU'LL IT'S IT'LL BE VERY PREDICTABLE AS FAR AS HOW THIS WILL BE BUILT OUT.
WE'VE GOT DETAILED STREET SECTIONS SO YOU'LL KNOW AND THIS IS SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'D LOVE TO BRING IN FRONT OF YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING IS WHAT ARE THE STREETS LOOK LIKE? HOW WIDE THE STREET IS THERE A SIX FOOT TREE ISLAND? HOW WIDE AND SIDEWALKS AND SORT OF THINK THAT PICTURE OF WHAT IT FEELS LIKE ARRIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND SORT OF DRIVING THROUGH IT AND HOW HOW ALL THE PROPERTIES CONNECT.
SO IT'S FOR US IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT OUR PROPOSED WITH THE EXISTING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SO COULD WALK TO SCHOOL AND THEN ALSO PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WITH THAT KNOW THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT WILL THE SCHOOL BE THERE FOREVER HOW WILL THAT BE? HOW IS THERE A GUARANTEE? SO THAT'S WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COMES INTO PLAY TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHAT OUTLINE OUTLINE USES FOR THE SCHOOL SITE? YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF SCHOOL HOW LARGE GOING TO BE CAN IT BE CHANGED? CAN IT NOT CHANGED? THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS FAR GUARANTEEING THAT THERE WILL BE A SCHOOL ON THE SCHOOL SITE THAT'S THAT'S A DETAIL THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO AND ALSO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN TERMS OF WOULD REGULATE HOW TRAFFIC MONITORED OVER TIME AS DENSITIES COME ON SO THAT MAY BE SCENARIOS WHERE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF ROOFTOPS COULD BE BUILT OR SQUARE FOOTAGE OF COMMERCIAL COULD BE BUILT BEFORE CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO HAPPEN. AND DON'T TURN HERE WITH KIMBERLY.
HE'S HERE TOO TONIGHT TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL SO AGAIN, THE BIG THING FOR US THIS EVENING IS WE WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE IDEA THAT THIS IS THE IN OVERLAY AND THIS IS WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS OUT AND THEN WE TO TOUCH ON THE TRAFFIC AND THEN THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE SCHOOL. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DYLAN TO UPDATE CATHOLICS AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO HEAR ABOUT THAT FIRST BEFORE YOU GO. YES YOU SAID YOU WOULD GUARANTEE THERE'D BE A SCHOOL ON THAT SITE. HOW COULD YOU GUARANTEE THAT YOU'RE NOT WITH THE DISTRICT? BUT I SAYING THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COULD HAVE LANGUAGE IN IT THAT GUARANTEE WHAT COULD HAPPEN ON THE SITE IN TERMS OF THE SCHOOL IT WOULD BE
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AVAILABLE BUT YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE THERE'LL BE A SCHOOL SO I WANT THAT TO BE CORRECT.AND COULD WE PULL UP THE I THINK IT'S THE LAST PAGE OF THE STAFF REPORT.
IT HAS THE PLAN ON IT AND I THINK YEAH. OKAY IS IS THE MASTER PLAN THE VERY END CHAIRMAN GLOVER WITH YOUR PERMISSION I'D LIKE MY NAME IS WALTER NESTOR AND I'M WITH THE LAW FIRM OF BURN FORMAN AND WE REPRESENT THE APPLICANT AND I'D LIKE TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO MR. HARPER NICK'S QUESTION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS A CONTRACT AND IT WOULD IMPACT THAT'S OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD BE A PARTY TO CONTRACT AND PART AND THE IDEA OF RESTRICTING THAT PROPERTY TO A SCHOOL OR SCHOOL USE GUARANTEE IT IS HAVING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT REQUIRES A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT SO RESTRICTIVE COVENANT SOMETHING THAT GETS RECORDED ON THE LAND RECORDS AND IT BURDENS THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY FOREVER AND SO THAT WOULD BE A DETAIL THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT IN IN IN THE NEGOTIATIONS FOR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SO THE COUNTY WOULD SAY TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OKAY IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A SCHOOL USE A SCHOOL OR A SCHOOL USE YOU'VE GOT TO RECORD A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT ON THE PROPERTY THAT GUARANTEE THAT. SO THERE IS A METHODOLOGY TO GUARANTEE THAT PURSUANT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I'M THE AVERAGE PERSON LISTENING WOULD THINK OKAY THERE IS GOING TO BE A SCHOOL THERE. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THERE'LL BE A SCHOOL THERE AND WE JUST HEARD HIM SAY THERE'S NO MONEY BUT I UNDERSTAND THE COVENANT WOULD SAY IT'S FOR SCHOOL USE BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO MISUNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL HAVE A SCHOOL THERE. YES, MA'AM.
BUT AGAIN IT WOULD I THINK WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS SAID IS A SCHOOL OR USE AND THERE COULD BE OTHER OTHER THAT WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY A PARK OPEN.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD COULD BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SUGGESTING A DEVELOPMENT. BUT ALSO I CAME UP HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO SAY THAT YES, YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SCHOOL BUT YOU CAN GUARANTEE THAT THERE WILL ONLY BE A SCHOOL OR SCHOOL USE THERE THROUGH RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU, MY LORD.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY IS GROWING BY AND BOUNDS. PROPERTY AREA OF THE BLUFFTON AREA IS EXPLODING AND SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS IN FORCE LOOKED AT THIS AREA TO SOME TYPE OF SCHOOL.
SO PERHAPS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND MOVING THIS FORWARD A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO ENSURE THAT A SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE SOME PROPERTY BUILD A SCHOOL IN THE FUTURE AND I'LL NOW PACKAGE ASSESS 30 ACRES BUT THIS COULD BE A NEGOTIATION FOR MORE THAN 30 ACRES WHATEVER THE SCHOOL DOES SEE THE NEEDS AND DESIGN BE IN THE FUTURE BUT MAKING THAT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT I SUPPORT THAT. WELL LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CURRENTLY OWNS 20 ACRES, RIGHT? 2525 ACRES.
SO THERE'S BASICALLY A SWAP OF LAND WHERE IT IS. SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES HAVE LAND RIGHT THERE THAT THEY WERE PLANNING ON DOING SOMETHING ELSE WITH BUT YOU KNOW THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR MINDS AND THIS COULD BE A SITE FOR FOR FOR FOR SCHOOL I MEAN LEAVE IT LIKE THAT BUT IT'S ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS PROPERTY IN THIS MIX GO AHEAD WELL YES SIR MR. MERCHANT SAID EARLIER PROPERTY ON 170 WAS ORIGINALLY THOUGHT TO BE A DISTRICT OFFICE THAT IS KIND OF NOT BEEN ON OUR STRATEGIC FOR SOME TIME NOW AS FAR AS BUILDING ONE THERE ALTHOUGH OUR BOARD THROW THAT AROUND EVERY NOW AND THEN THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONVERSATIONS OF IT BUT THAT PROPERTY WITH THE WAY IT'S CONFIGURED IS NOT BIG FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE. MAYBE IN EARLY CHILDHOOD BUT WE'RE ALSO ON 170 WHICH IS NOT THE BEST FOR US TO BE WITH A SCHOOL. WE'D RATHER BE TUCKED BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFF OF BUSY HIGHWAY FOR FOR THAT PURPOSE SO LARGER PIECE OF LAND OFF 170 IS MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO US. YEAH. OKAY SO SO YES GO AHEAD.
GOOD. GOOD EVENING. DYLAN TURNER WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE BOOK NOW. OH NO, I WAS GOING TO YEAH. I WAS GOING TO FILIBUSTER THIS THIS RELEASE SO. NO, THIS IS WHAT KEVIN HAS THE JOY OF READING THROUGH SO HIM THE TRAFFIC STUDY ON THIS I JUST WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT SO THERE'S A FEW BIG
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THINGS THAT WANT TO HEAR IS THE COUNTY STAFF HAS EXPRESSED THE CONCERNS OVER FAILING LEVELS OF SERVICE AND THEY WOULD EXIST WITHOUT OUR DEVELOPMENT EVER COMING THERE.SO WHEN WE LOOK OUR TRAFFIC STUDY WE DO EXISTING CONDITIONS, NO BILLS BUILD AND BUILD IMPROVED IN IN MANY OF THE INTERSECTIONS AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE SHORTCUT ROAD THAT AC 170 WITHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND 2029 NO BUILD IT OPERATES AT A LEVEL SERVICE E WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IN THIS TRAFFIC STUDY WE GET TO LEVEL SERVICE D WHICH IS THE PREFERRED BY THE COUNTY OR BETTER ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE IS CHERRY POINT AND AC 170 WHICH IS WHERE WE'D HAVE A LOT OF OUR TRAFFIC FLOW GO THROUGH NO BILL SO WITHOUT ANY OF OUR DEVELOPMENT TRAFFIC WITH DEVELOPMENT TRAFFIC OF THE REST OF BUILD OUT OF MAINLAND BLUFF AND RIVER OAKS CHERRY POINT AT 170 WOULD BE OPERATING LEVEL SERVICE F WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE SUGGESTING IT GETS TO LEVEL SERVICE E IN THE MORNING PEAK AND THEN LEVEL SERVICE D AND E IS MAINTAINED FOR THE SCHOOL PEAK IN THE PEAK.
SO THIS STUDY LOOKED AT AN AND PEAK OUR SCHOOL DISMISSAL WITH THE OKATIE ELEMENTARY AND THEN A PEAK THE SCHOOL DISMISSAL IS KIND OF A UNIQUE PIECE TO A TRAFFIC STUDY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OC HUNDRED PLUS THIS MIDDLE SCHOOL YOU KNOW WE WENT AND LOOKED AT IT ANOTHER THING IS RIVERWALK IT AC 170 SO WITHOUT RIVER WITHOUT THIS THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THIS STUDY THAT INTERSECTION SUPPOSED TO FAIL ARE ANTICIPATED TO FAIL PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY IT'S ON SIGNALIZED SO THOSE LEFT TURN MOVEMENTS OUT OF RIVER WALK ON WHEN 70 ARE VERY DIFFICULT.
THIS STUDY RECOMMENDS TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE ANOTHER IMPORTANT PIECE TO THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS THAT IS IN THE AC 170 CORRIDOR STUDY THAT IS BEING LOOKED FOR FUNDING THIS TRAFFIC STUDY IS NOT DEPENDENT ON THE 170 CORRIDOR SITE I WANT TO STATE THAT VERY CLEARLY WE MENTIONED WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE ONE 700 NORTH STUDY. SO WHAT YOU KNOW HOW WE COULD OPERATE BUT THAT PROJECT IS NOT FUNDING WE CAN'T DEPEND ON THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS FROM THAT. SO WE LOOKED AT SCENARIOS TYPICAL MITIGATION WE DID AN ALTERNATIVE INTERSECTION ANALYSIS IS THROUGH CUTS SO WE WOULD DISABLE THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH ON THE SIDE STREETS IT JUST HELPS THE SIGNAL PHASING CDOT WAS NOT A BIG FAN OF THAT BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL OF THE ARC CUT CORRIDOR WITH 70 THAT WOULD BE TOO MUCH CONSTRUCTION BACK TO BACK WITH INNOVATIVE INDUSTRY. THEY ASKED US TO LOOK AT TYPICAL MITIGATION WHICH WOULD BE TURN LANES, SIGNAL TIMING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF AND SO WE'VE DONE THAT SO WE BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURES THAT CAN BE PUT IN WITH 170 QUARTER SO YOU SO WE'RE OVERLAPPING THAT WE'RE NOT DEPENDENT WE BE DOING IT WITH OR WITHOUT THE PULL OR STUDY BUT LUCKILY THE COUNTY CAN USE SOME OF THAT SO BE THE SIGNAL RIVER WALK WHICH IS SHOWN ON THAT STUDY WE WOULD BE OUR DEVELOPMENT WILL BE IN IMPLEMENTING THAT SIGNAL.
ANOTHER THING IS IS WE ARE MAKING THE CONDITIONS VERY VERY SIMILAR TO OR BETTER THAN THE NOBLE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE COMING INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND SAYING THE ROAD STINKS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING. THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE RECOMMENDED IN THE STUDY AND SO THE ALL THAT GOING TO SAY THAT'S THAT'S HELPING WITH THE FLOW SO WE'RE HELPING WITH THAT. NO BUILD CONDITION. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS KIND OF CRAZY BECAUSE WE'RE BRINGING IN TRIPS BUT WE HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR THOSE TRIPS AND SO THERE ARE SUBSTANTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS RECOMMENDED IN HERE THAT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY THE DEVELOPER ALSO AS A PART OF THAT THE OKATIE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RIGHT NOW CUEING IS AN ISSUE SO PARENTS GET TO THE EARLY, THEY QUEUE BACK ONTO 170 AS A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WIDENING OF CHERRY POINT SO WE CAN HANDLE SOME OF THAT QUEUING FOR THE SCHOOL THEY DON'T STACK ON TO CHERRY POINT ON TO 170 IS A PART OF THIS SO WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO EXTEND THIS LEFT TURN LEAD FROM THE DOCK TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ALL THE WAY BACK TO 170 AS A RECEIVING FOR THAT. SO THERE IS VERY, VERY SUBSTANTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS ANOTHER THING. I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IN LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW DO HOW DO THE KIDS HERE NOW GET TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL? WELL, BUS RIDERSHIP IS WAY DOWN SO THAT MEANS THE PARENTS ARE GETTING IN THE CAR, HAVING TO GET ONTO 172 GO SOUTH MOSTLY BLUFFTON AS WE HEARD FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ALSO WE HAD FROM THE PUBLIC SAY WELL IT'S JUST A SHORT DRIVE FOR ME TO GET TO MY RETAIL. WELL, WE'RE GETTING YOU OFF OF THE ROAD.
SO WE'RE SAYING THAT ONE SEVEN IS AN ISSUE. THIS DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES A PLACE TYPE FOR PEOPLE TO TRAVEL TO VIA WALKING A GOLF CART, A BIKE.
ALL OF THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ME ON BLUFFTON RIVERBOATS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE NO ONE TO MAKE SURE I GET ALL MY NOTES HERE YEAH SO THERE IS JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THERE IS
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CONSIDERABLE MITIGATION THAT THIS DEVELOPER WOULD BE UNDERTAKING TO MEET STANDARDS TO GET APPROVALS FROM THE COUNTY AND OR STATE. SO IT'S IT'S A LOT TURN LANES IT'S A LOT OF SIGNAL TIME MEANS THIS NEW SIGNALS TURN LANES ON CHERRY POINT TURN LANES ON MAINLAND BLUFF ALL TO HANDLE THE ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC WITH DEVELOPER ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ANY QUESTION OR ANYBODY WANT TO HAVE A SHORT READ HERE I SEE AN ADDITIONAL THREE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON THIS PROPOSAL SO I SAY THAT AGAIN I SEE THREE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON THIS PROPOSAL IS THAT IT ONE OF THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT EVERY TIME THERE'S A TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON 170 THERE'S A BACKLOG OF CARS. THERE'S TWO PROPOSED SIGNALS ONES ALREADY THE PRESSURE POINT IN SHORTCUT ROAD THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY STUDY MAINLAND BLUFF SO THAT'S THE ONE ON THE FAR RIGHT ON THE SCREEN WITH THE GREEN BACKGROUND.SO THAT'S A NEW SIGNAL. THE CHERRY POINT IMPROVEMENT IS NOT THERE YET IS RIGHT IS APPROVED SO ONCE THEY READ A THRESHOLD THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT I HAVE NO IDEA BUT IT'S IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT TO GET TO THIS NUMBER OF HOMES THEY HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THAT SIGNAL AND SO THAT'S APPROVED NOT CONSTRUCTED SO THAT'S ONE NEW ONE THE SIGNAL SHOWN AT CHERRY POINT IS EXISTING SO THAT IS ONE THAT'S THERE TODAY RIGHT RIVER WALK IS ONE PROPOSED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT SO THE BLUE BACKGROUND SO A SECOND AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS TIDAL WATCH DRIVE WHICH IS AN EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
SO THERE'S ONLY THERE'S ONLY TWO NEW SIGNALS SO THAT'S OKAY THANK YOU.
I GOT TO ANY OTHER QUESTION BEFORE THE TRAFFIC STUDY OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE THE APPLICANT? NO. OKAY. DID MR. MERCHANT YOU ON YOUR OWN? WELL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THE MOTIONS WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, YOU CAN EITHER RECOMMEND DENIAL YOU KNOW, YOU COULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS WHICH YOU KNOW IF YOU ARE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE CONDITION WOULD BE ENTERING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND GIVEN THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS PROPOSAL, WE BELIEVE THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE A NECESSARY STEP OR JUST TO APPROVE THE PLACE TYPE OVERLAY WITHOUT CONDITIONS AND CHAIR WITHIN THE CHAIN OF MOTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER SO WE CAN BE OH YEAH I SAID I WANTED TO CLEAR UP SOMETHING IN THE STAFF REPORT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE NINE CRITERIA THE THE LAST ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE ONE WHERE STAFF IS SAYING WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT'S ADEQUATE.
I THINK THAT THAT WAS REFLECTED IN THE STAFF REPORT BUT IT'S REFLECTED IN THE RECOMMENDATION. SO MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE DENY THE REQUEST FOR REZONING FOR THE FOLLOWING AND I CAN GIVE THE REASONS OF MOTION IS SUCH TO THAT IN THIS CASE IS PROBABLY THE MOTION AND SECOND GO MADAM MANAGER OKAY.
THE REASONS OF IT IS WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE CODE IN THE PURPOSES OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE IT IS IN CONFLICT WITH PROVISIONS OF CODE IS IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES BUT IN CONFLICT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE IT DOES ADDRESS BEING THE SCHOOL A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED IT IS NOT REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS IS COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND PROPOSED USE OF THE LAND SURROUNDING THIS LAND.
IT WOULD NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT NEARBY LAND. IT WOULD RESULT IN LOGICAL ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS. IT WOULD NOT RESULT IN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WATER AIR, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE, VEGETATION, WETLAND AND THE NATURAL FUNCTIONING OF THE ENVIRONMENT IT WOULD NOT RESULT IN DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ADEQUATELY SERVED BY PUBLIC STREETS POTABLE WATER SEWER, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, SOLID WASTE COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL SCHOOLS, PARKS, POLICE, FIRE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL
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FACILITIES TO BE TERMINATE. THIS IS SECOND ONLY TO YES OKAY NO LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION THERE IS THERE'S ONLY REALLY IF I HEARD IT RIGHT IT'S ONLY TWO REASONS OUTLINED FOR DENIAL THE RISK WAS IT REALLY A VOTE OF YES. WAS IT? WELL, YES, YOU'RE CORRECT AND IT IS STAFF'S POSITION THAT ONE YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EVERY SINGLE CRITERIA IS A NEGATIVE FOR YOU KNOW STAFF TO RECOMMEND DENIAL.YOU KNOW IT COULD BE THAT ONE CRITERIA IS JUST JUST IS ENOUGH FORWARD YES YEAH IN ANY COMMENTS IF I UNDERSTAND YES CHAIRMAN THE STAFF HAS DENIED IN THIS MOTION FOR DENIAL AS WELL YOU KNOW SO WHAT WE DID IS STAFF RECOMMENDED TO PLANNING COMMISSION BACK IN I BELIEVE THIS WAS DECEMBER OR JANUARY YOU KNOW JANUARY WE RECOMMENDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIAL RECOMMENDED THEIR THE RECOMMENDING BODY TO COUNTY COUNCIL RECOMMENDED DENIAL AND THEN NOW IT'S TO THIS COMMITTEE AND YOU'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THANK YOU.
IN ESSENCE YOU'RE DETERMINED THAT THE TWO THAT SHE SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT COMPATIBLE OVER OVERWEIGHT THE OTHER SEVEN CRITERIA THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT CRITERIA SWAY HER TO SAY SHE RECOMMENDS NOW IS HOW I UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU SHOULD NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER NINE WAS THANK THANK OKAY ANY COMMENTS IF ALL GOOD OKAY IS THERE ANY NO LET'S GO WITH THE MOTION BECAUSE IT GOES BEFORE COUNTY COUNCIL THE FURTHER SO THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION OF FORWARDED TO COUNCIL ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION THAT'S PRESENTED HERE AT THIS TIME PLEASE INDICATE RAISING THEIR HAND AND THE MOTION IS TO IS TO THE RIGHT OKAY THOSE OPPOSE WE GOT ONE CAUSAL IT'S BUT THIS MOTION GOES BEFORE COUNCIL CORRECT TO A GOOD OKAY OKAY SO LARRY VOTED LARRY VOTED WITH THE MAJORITY OKAY NOW WE DOWN TO NUMBER NINE WE HER THIS OH WAIT THIS OKAY YEAH OH THIS EMERGENCY USED TO LIVE RIGHT? YES YES SIR AND YOU'VE BEEN UP
[9. AN ORDINANCE FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE (CDC): APPENDIX B (DAUFUSKIE ISLAND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE) DIVISION 3 (PERMITTED USES) TO PERMIT THE County Council Agenda – Beaufort County, SC USE OF ANIMAL SERVICES: CLINIC/HOSPITAL IN D2 RURAL (D2R). (FISCAL IMPACT: None.) -Rob Merchant, AICP, Director, Beaufort County Planning and Zoning]
ALL DAY TO DAY MAN APPRECIATE IT. YEAH, THERE'S NUMBER AND THERE'S AN ORDINANCE OR MOTION AND ALL OF THIS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE B THE FIRST YEAR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE DIVISION THREE PERMIT THE USE OF SERVICES CLINIC SLASH HOSPITAL IN D TO D TO RULE THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT AT THIS TIME AND THIS YEAR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PUT THIS ON THE FLOOR.OH, MR. CHAIRMAN. OKAY IS THE MOTION BY MR. THE SECOND BY WHO IT'S GOING THROUGH OKAY WELL I THINK HE'S AS YOU HEARD DURING PUBLIC COMMENT THAT THERE IS THERE ACTUALLY IS A VETERINARIAN WANTING TO ON TO THE FUSCHIA ISLAND THERE'S CURRENTLY REALLY NO VETERINARIAN SERVICES AND THIS THEY CONSIDERED A SITE FOR THIS CLINIC IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE D TWO RURAL DISTRICT WHICH IS THE SPECIAL DISTRICT FOR THE FUSCHIA ISLAND WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT THIS THIS CLINIC DID NOT ALLOW ANIMAL SERVICES SLASH MEDICAL CLINIC A MEMBER OF ANIMAL SERVICES CLINIC HOSPITAL HOWEVER THE DISTRICT IT DOES ALLOW ANIMAL SERVICES KENNEL AND SO IN STAFF IN ANALYZING THIS USE WE REALIZE THAT PROBABLY IT'S LIKELY MOST INTENSIVE OR YOU KNOW BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT AN ANIMAL HOSPITAL WOULD BE THAT THERE MIGHT BE BOARDING ANIMALS AND THAT COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW,
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MAYBE NOISE OR OTHER IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORS. BUT THAT USE FOR A KENNEL IS ALREADY PERMITTED IN THAT DISTRICT TOO. SO IT DIDN'T MAKE YOU KNOW IT DIDN'T MAKE LOGICAL SENSE THAT ONE WOULD BE PERMITTED AND THE ONE WASN'T.AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION TO STAFF IS TO AMEND THE TO FUSCHIA ISLAND TO AMEND THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT TO ALLOW ANIMAL SERVICES CLINIC HOSPITAL BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE DISTRICT ANY QUESTION OR MR. MOTION THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE INDICATE BY REASON OF HAND OKAY HE'S UNANIMOUS THINK YOU THINK THIS DID YOU WANT ME TO READ MY THEORY? OH, THE CRITERIA.
YEAH, WELL WE GOT TO DO THAT FOR THIS TO YES SO YEAH THERE'S A DID YOU WANT ME TO READ THIS.
YES TO VM? I'M SORRY. YES, MISS BROWN, PLEASE DO.
OKAY. OKAY I MOVE THAT WE GRANT THE REQUEST FOR THE NEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS IS ONE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TWO IS NOT INCOME LINKED WITH ANY PROVISION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE OR CODE OF ORDINANCES. THREE IS NOT REQUIRED CHANGE CONDITIONS FOUR DOES ADDRESS A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED FIVE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE ZONES IN THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD APPROVE COMPATIBILITY AMONG USES AND ENSURE EFFICIENT WITHIN THE COUNTY SIX WOULD RESULT IN A LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN SEVEN WOULD NOT RESULT IN ADVERSE ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING BUT LIMITED TO WATER AIR NOISE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE, VEGETATION, WETLANDS AND NATURAL FUNCTIONS THE ENVIRONMENT OKAY THIS SECOND TO LIVE WITH THE SECOND THERE'S BEEN A SECOND. OKAY WE JUST NEED A VOTE, RIGHT ? THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND I OKAY. AND IT IS UNANIMOUS.
[10. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ACCEPT A NATIONAL COASTAL RESILIENCE FUND GRANT AWARD FROM THE NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE FOUNDATION. (FISCAL IMPACT: No cash match. Receipt of $169,667.50 to be applied to the Beaufort County Planning & Zoning Department Grants Revenue Fund. Fiscal Impact: In-kind match (in lieu of County funds) in the amount of $153,054 will be provided by Beaufort County and its partners through services provided. In kind match is comprised of $120,000 worth in high-resolution aerial imagery and LIDAR from the GIS Department, $6,890 worth in services rendered compiling GIS data layers and identifying data gaps from the GIS Department, $7,800 worth in services to continue GIS data layer compilation and gap filling from the GIS Department, $2,400 worth in services arranging public engagement sessions, including providing a venue, from the Port Royal Sound Foundation, and $15,964 worth in services in graphic design from staff at the SC Sea Grant Consortium) - Juliana Smith, Environmental Long Range Planner]
THANK YOU, MR. MCGOVERN. OKAY, MR. BURGESS. THANK YOU THEN.WE NEED TO GET A MOTION FOR MRS. SMITH SO IF I CAN GET A MOTION A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION TO A NATIONAL COASTAL RESILIENCE FUND GRANT AWARDED FROM THE NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE FOUNDATION GUESS IS IN THE AMOUNT OF 169,066 $667.50.
YES, SIR. YOU CAN. IS THAT A MOTION I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WAS I WOULD ALSO MR. DAWSON MR. SMITH GO AHEAD. YES, JUST REALLY QUICKLY SO THERE IS NO CASH MATCH THAT IS A PART OF THIS GRANT SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PART OF THE FISCAL IMPACT INSTEAD WE ARE PROVIDING MATCH AN IN-KIND MATCH IN SERVICE IN THE AMOUNT OF 153,000 $153,054. THIS IS COMING THROUGH LIGHT OUR AERIAL IMAGERY, OUR GIS DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE PROVIDING SERVICES RENDERED THAT OUR GUYS GIS DEPARTMENT WILL PROVIDE AND HAS AS WELL AS SERVICES ARRANGING PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FROM THE PORT ROYAL SOUND FOUNDATION AND SERVICES AND GRAPHIC DESIGN FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA SEA GRANT CONSORTIUM. WHAT THIS GRANT IS IS SUPPORTING ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS OUT OF THE LONG TERM RESILIENCE STRATEGY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE LIVING SHORELINES CAN GO IN THE SALT MARSHES AND BEAUFORT COUNTY SO THAT WE CAN HELP INCENTIVIZE THEM ON PRIVATE LANDS AS WELL AS PUBLIC PUBLIC LANDS AS WELL MAKE PUBLIC INVESTMENT.
IT WILL CREATE THREE TOOLS ONE IS A MAPPING ANALYSIS DEMONSTRATING WHERE SHORELINES ARE APPROPRIATE AND WHAT TYPES OF LIVING SHORELINES ARE APPROPRIATE FOR DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS. IT WILL CREATE A PRIORITIZATION MATRIX THAT RECOMMENDS WHERE THE HIGHEST NEED FOR LIVING SHORELINES EXIST BASED ON SOCIAL VULNERABILITY, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, HISTORICALLY AND CULTURALLY IMPORTANT SITES, COMMUNITY PRIORITIES AND BENEFITS AND IT WILL CREATE A TRAINING MANUAL FOR COUNTY STAFF TO ASSIST IN SITING AND INCENTIVIZING LIVING SHORELINES FOR PRIVATE LANDOWNERS. ALL OF THESE TOOLS WILL BE PUBLICLY SO THE HOPE IS THAT THE MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS CAN ALSO USE THESE TOOLS IN ANY COUNTIES BEYOND WHO ARE INTERESTED COULD AS WELL.
OUR PARTNERS ARE THE SOUTH CAROLINA SEA GRANT CONSORTIUM, THE PORT ROYAL SOUND FOUNDATION AND THE COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON AND THERE ARE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED HERE COUNTY, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND OUR GAS DEPARTMENT IN TO PLANNING AND ZONING. ANY QUESTIONS ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE SMITH QUICK ONE WHEN YOU SAID PRIVATE LANDOWNER IS HERE PROPERTIES INCLUDED IN THAT PRIVATE LANDOWNER IT COULD
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BE YES IF IF FOLKS ON THEIR PROPERTY WANT TO USE LIVING SHORELINES WOULD GIVE US THE TOOLS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE LIVING SHORELINES MAKE SENSE FOR THOSE PROPERTIES.OKAY THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. PLEASE KEEP A TO HAND.
IT IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, MR. SMITH THANK YOU. IN THE ROOM.
[11. THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF EUGENE MEYERS, CECILY MCMILLAN, AND ED PAPPAS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A THREE-YEAR TERM WITH THE EXPIRATION DATE OF FEBRUARY 2028]
CAN I CAN I DO 11 AND 12 ARE GOING TO I GOT TO DO TWO SEPARATELY IT'S TWO SEPARATE TWO SEPARATE. OKAY THE CHAIR WILL INITIATE A MOTION TO FOR OF EUGENE MYERS CECILE MCMILLAN AND EIGHT PAPERS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A THREE YEAR TERM WITH THE EXPIRATION DATE OF FEBRUARY 2028 I'LL MAKE THE MOTION OKAY.MR. CABINET. OH OH SECOND. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING THE HAND.
OKAY AND EXPIRATION DO EXACTLY LAST MONTH FEBRUARY SO IT'S OKAY SO THEY BACK ON OFFICIALLY
[12. THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF NATALIE HARVEY AND KATRINA EPPS TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW BOARD FOR A FOUR-YEAR TERM WITH THE EXPIRATION DATE OF FEBRUARY 2029]
BACK ON OKAY AND THEN NUMBER 12 IS THE THE RE-APPOINTMENT OF NATALIE HARVEY AND KATHRYN EPPS TO THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION REVIEW BOARD FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM WITH THE EXPIRATION DATE OF FEBRUARY 2029 CHAIR IN THE TAYLOR MOTION ALL MOTION OKAY MISS BROWN ISAAC THE SECOND WAS BY MISS HOWARD. ANY QUESTIONS THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY REASON END RIGHT OKAY IT IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU.THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS COMING BEFORE THIS NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. IT WAS 2006 NINE
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.