[1. CALL TO ORDER – 2:00p.m.]
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. I MIGHT CALL ORDER THE FEBRUARY 19TH 54 COUNTIES STORMWATER UTILITY BOARD. WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH THE APPROVAL TODAY'S AGENDA TO HAVE A MOTION MOTION INCLUDED. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
ALL RIGHT. IF YOU'RE IN ATTENDANCE OF OUR DECEMBER 11TH, 2025 MEETING IN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES AS THEY GIVEN TO US THERE WAS A COUPLE OF SCRIBNER'S ERRORS AND ALREADY TALKED TO SALLY ABOUT THEM AND SHE'S ALREADY MADE THE CORRECTION TO ONE WAS FOR THE VISITORS. ONE OF THE NAMES WAS INCORRECT AND JUST A SPELLING ERROR. SHE'S ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF IT AND WILL CORRECT IT.
ALL RIGHT, SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS MINUTES AS ADJUSTED.
I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO SECOND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
[2. INTRODUCTIONS]
ALL. WE ARE GOING TO DO INTRODUCTIONS.HAVE A PRETTY BIG CROWD. THE START ALL THE WAY OVER THE LEFT AT THE TABLE.
INTRODUCTIONS YES, I'M HERE WITH HIM. DEBBIE KENNEDY RED HAIR.
INCREDIBLE WORK DIRECTOR. I'M CHARLIE SULLIVAN WITH BOB FROM STORM WATER BUSINESS MANAGEMENT OVER HERE. SO MY PROGRAM MANAGER SELLING THE CLASS.
I LIKE BISHOP RYAN HAS SERVED FOR BEFORE FOR. ALL RIGHT WE'LL STAY IN THE START IN THE BACK RIGHT ROW IT AND ROBERTS ON MY MANAGER FOR. OKAY A VERY HIGH QUALITY DIRECTOR OF PRETTY RARE SCIENCE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR SOUND FOUNDATION.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S KEEP GOING DOWN THE SERVICES. OKAY, ALAN START MOST COUNTY COMES IN SUNSHINE WATER RESOURCES DO YOU RECALL THE OF .
ALL RIGHT RIGHT IN FRONT OF STEVEN FROM YOU SIR. OH I SEE.
I THINK IT'S COLEMAN. AND I'M LAWRENCE COLEMAN. ALL RIGHT, ANDY COLEMAN NOW FIGURES I WILL START YOU. WHY WITH THE CRESCENT CONSERVATION LINK INDICATING FOR MORE HAVE WE ALL JOINED HERE? WE'VE HAD A ONTO OUR AREA HELGA LILY HARRISON I'M VERY MARATHONER CONCERNED CITIZEN HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM 17TH MARY CONNOR TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS AND THAT'S IT WITH YOU ALL CONCERNED CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS GO THROUGH THE COUNTY SAM GONNA WHO THE APPELLANT FOR THE INCUMBENT PLANTATION APPEAL THANK YOU TOLD ERIC SUSAN I AM VERY CONCERNED CITIZEN MA'AM THE COMPUTER I'M SORRY JACK VAN I MEAN WELL IT'S KIND OF FOR DENNIS ROSS AT YEAH JAMES CLAUDE UNINCORPORATED WELL RUN BUCHANAN DISTRICT DATES SAINT ELLEN AND ISLANDS EAST AND I'M PATRICK MITCHELL REPRESENTING LADIES ON I'M STANDING IN FOR OUR CHAIRMAN MARK FEINBERG WHO
[3. PUBLIC COMMENT]
IS OUT OF TOWN. SO THANKS EVERYBODY FOR COMING TODAY.I WANT TO START OFF WITH PUBLIC COMMENT I'M SORRY NEW YOU. YES, SIR.
GO AHEAD. I'M VERY FAINTLY OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
WE'RE GONNA START OFF TODAY WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. I DID WANT TO SAY OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE 3 MINUTES AND THERE WERE NEVER A LOT OF A LOT OF Y'ALL THEY WANT TO SPEAK TODAY WE DO HAVE 3 MINUTES PER PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WAS THINKING SINCE WE DO HAVE SO MANY WE HAVE A SECOND PART OF THE AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END WHICH WE WILL COMES RIGHT AFTER WE ARE DISCUSSING THE CALHOUN PLANTATION ROAD FOR YOU SO I WAS THINKING ANYONE THAT WANTED TO TALK ON THAT AND I WAS THINKING WE COULD DO IT AT THE END RIGHT AFTER.
WE HAVE THAT FULL DISCUSSION SO IS ANYONE THAT HAS PUBLIC COMMENT THAT IS NOT RELATED TO THE COUNTY AND PLANTATION ROAD YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION YES SIR.
WILL YOU HEAR OUR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 70 BEFORE YOU HAVE YOUR DELIVERY? YES SIR WE WILL. I'M NOT WE WILL NOT HAVE OFFICIAL DELIBERATIONS.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT WE YES. WILL HEAR 78 PUBLIC COMMENT IN ONE BOAT TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. ALL RIGHT.
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SO THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THAT HAS PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT IS NOT RELATED TO.[4. SPECIAL GUEST – Charlie Sullivan, Wapro, Inc.]
THE CALHOUN PLANTATION ROAD APPEAL. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO SPECIAL GUEST IS MR. CHARLIE SELWYN WITH OPERA SOUTHERN HELLO MY NAME IS CHARLIE SULLIVAN WITH PROBE. I WAS ASKED BY THE COMPANY TO COME IN AND DISCUSS SOME OF OUR PRODUCTS IN GENERAL BUT I THINK MOST INTEREST IS IN WHILE PROBE LINE CHECK SHUFFLE AND I DO HAVE LITERATURE AND PERSONS FROM SMALL SYMBOLS OVER THERE IF SOMEONE MIGHT WANT YOU I'M SORRY. OH OKAY. SHOULD I TALKING? OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I AN AREA FOR A WHILE PROBE MARYLAND, VIRGINIA, THE CAROLINAS AND ILLINOIS I UP IN ILLINOIS.SO THAT'S WHY THEY GAVE IT TO ME. I AM BASED OUT OF A TIGER CASE NORTH CAROLINA SO I DO LIVE IN THE STATE ALTHOUGH IT'S SNOWING WHERE I LIVE RIGHT NOW AS WE ALL KNOW COASTAL FLOODING, STORM WATER, TIDAL FLOODING IS A TREMENDOUS PROBLEM THAT NOT GETTING ANY BETTER WE MANUFACTURE A NUMBER OF PRODUCTS THAT HANDLE STORM WATER FLOODING THEY CAN ALSO BE USED IN OTHER APPLICATIONS SUCH AS INDUSTRIAL SANITARY SEWERS TYPE OF THING. BUT OUR MAIN THRUST STORM WATER CONTROL IN FACT OUR MOTTO IS HOLDING BACK FLOOD. THESE INCLUDE GATE VALVES, SLUICE GATES AND A CUSTOM MADE CANAL GATES. THE WHY STOP IN LINE CHECK VALVE IS A VALVE THAT WE MANUFACTURE IS REALLY THE FIRST PRODUCT WE CAME OUT WITH. WE MANUFACTURE 3 TO 84 INCH IN DIAMETER. THIS IS A LOSS BILL BREAKER AND JUST EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS HOW IT WORKS. KEEP IT SIMPLE YOU WOULD PUT THIS AT THE END OF AN OUTFALL PIPE THAT'S SITTING OUT ON A MARSH RIVER OR SOMETHING LIKE WITH RISING OCEAN STORM.
YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WATER COMING OFF THE PIPE, STORMWATER AND FEEDING THE SYSTEM.
A LOT OF THESE PIPES INSTALLED YEARS AGO BEFORE THE RISING WATER ISSUE THIS FAILED IS MAYBE TRADE SO YOU PUT IT IN THE END OF THE PIPE IT GOES UP PRESSURE AND IT SNAPS OPEN BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU'LL GET ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 20 FEET OF PROTECTION OF SURGE TRIANGLE OF PIPE THAT'S PRETTY MUCH PRETTY BASIC. THEY'RE ALL MADE OUT OF STAINLESS STEEL AND ALONG THE COAST HERE IT'S 16 STAINLESS.
THIS IS A PROPRIETARY MEMBRANE SO WE'VE IMPROVED IT OVER THE YEARS SEVERAL TIMES AND AS I SAID, WE GO UP TO A FOUR INCH AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FEW SAMPLES, PICTURES THAT WE HAVE IF YOU COULD. IS THERE AN ANIMATION BUT YEAH, YEAH.
THERE YOU GO. AND THIS IS HOW IT WORKS YOU BASICALLY HAVE AN OLD PIPE.
IT BUILDS UP CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HEAD PRESSURE CLOSES AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME WHEN YOU GET A HIGH TIDE STORM YOU PROTECT FROM WATER GOING UP THE PIPE PROTECTING PROPERTY.
IT WILL WORK SO BACKWARDS SLOWLY IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE LEVELS OF PRESSURE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE VALVE. THANK YOU. CAN INSTALL THESE IN A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS YOU DON'T HAVE TO INSTALL THEM AT THE END OF THE PIPE YOU CAN GO TO THE FIRST STRUCTURE UPSTREAM YOU CAN PUT IT RIGHT OUTSIDE A BUILDING IF YOU IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A WATER BUILDING UP RIGHT THERE ON PROPERTY, THIS IS AN ACTUAL IF YOU CAN THIS IS AN OLDER VIDEO BUT IT DOES SHOW YOU'LL SEE A BULGE AS THE PRESSURE BUILDS UP AND THEN IT SNAPS OPEN AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, A LOT OF YEARS OF RESEARCH WENT BEHIND GETTING THAT MEMBRANE JUST RIGHT. IT IS A PRETTY SIMPLE PRODUCT BUT IT DOES TAKE A WE WE YOU
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KNOW WE WANT PEOPLE TO LOOK AT IT MAYBE TWICE A YEAR JUST MAKE NOTHING'S CAUGHT UP IN IT.THIS ONE HERE WE DO THAT ONE OUR GUYS AT THE PLANT THREW ALL KINDS OF GARBAGE IN THERE AND THE MAIN REASON BEING THIS FLUSHES OUT MATERIAL. SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE SEDIMENT BUILT UP IN FRONT OF THE BUILD YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A FLUSHING OF MOVEMENT OF AND IT HELPS FLUSH OUT JUNK INSIDE THE VALVE WELL AS SEDIMENT THAT MIGHT BUILD UP IN FRONT OF IT AND OF COURSE THEY LISTED ALL THE THINGS THEY PUT IN. THEY HAD A LOT OF FUN DOING THAT SO WE VERIFIED BILLS WITH INDEPENDENT HEAD LOSS TESTING. WE'RE THE ONLY ONES IN THE BUSINESS TO DO THAT SO WE DO HAVE DOCUMENTATION FOR FLOW. WE CAN ALSO MANUFACTURE IN SOME CASES HARDER OR SOFTER MEMBRANES SOFTER WILL ALLOW WITH LESS THE VALVES OPEN UP IF YOU HAVE A REAL FLAT SEWER SYSTEM THAT MAY BE IMPORTANT IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF WATER BUILDING UP TRYING TO GET BACK ON LAND MAY WANT TO HARDEN REMEMBER THAT'S UNIVERSITY OF UTAH VIDEO AND HERE WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF DOCUMENTATION REGARDING OUR PERFORMANCE.
WELL, YOU KNOW WE TEST SOME OF OUR COMPETITORS AND YOU KNOW, WE GET INVOLVED WITH SOME YOU KNOW, YOU GET INVOLVED WITH MILITARY WORK AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME PRETTY GOOD INFORMATION TO JUSTIFY WHAT YOU'RE SELLING NOW WE KNOW NO TWO INSTALLATIONS ARE THE SAME SO CAN PRODUCE VALVES FOR FLANGE MOUNTS THAT'S PVC ON THE RIGHT PVC PIPE YOU OF CORRUGATED POLYETHYLENE ON THE LEFT AND THEN YOU HAVE VALVES WITH FLANGE MOUNTS FOR STRUCTURES. THESE I TRIED TO TAKE PICTURES FROM A RELATIVELY LOCAL AREAS IN THE CAROLINAS WE REPLACED AN OLDER TYPE OF VALVE THAT'S OUT THERE IS CALLED A DUCKBILL OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T WORK HADN'T WORKED FOR YEARS AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO REBUILD THE SUPPORT FOR THE PIPE. THE HEAD WALL IS NOT NECESSARILY JUST PUTTING A VALVE IN AND IT TAKES CARE OF ALL YOUR PROBLEMS SO WE'LL GO OUT AND WORK WITH OWNERS AND ENGINEERS AND REVIEW THE SITUATION AND SEE WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. THIS WAS A STRUCTURE I WORKED ON IN MOUNT PLEASANT CAROLINA.
WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THESE. WE'RE GETTING READY TO BID SOME MORE ON THE BARRIER ISLANDS OF CHARLESTON THIS INVOLVES THE WASHED STOP VALVE WHICH IS ON THE LEFT AND THEN WE ALSO MANUFACTURE SLUICES. SO IT'S A DOUBLE SYSTEM TO PROTECT WATER GOING UP INTO THE STORM SYSTEM. SO THOSE WERE 48 INCH WAS STOPPED AND THEN WHEN THEY KNOW A BIGGER STORM EVENT IS COMING THEY WILL CLOSE THE SLUICE GATES ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BOX DUNES WEST. THEY'VE INSTALLED A NUMBER OF VALVES AND THIS IS AN OLD PIPE A LOT OF TIMES IT'S NOT VERY GOOD CONDITION. SOMETIMES THEY HIT THE LINE THE WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND REMEASURE THE DIAMETER OF INSIDE DIAMETER BECAUSE IT USUALLY CUTS DOWN THE PAWLEYS ISLAND AND STARTED A PROGRAM UP THERE JUST AN EXAMPLE ONE OF THE FIRST PIPES WE PUT OF ONE OF OUR VALVES IN THE CONTRACTOR WAS HIRED TO GET OUT THE LINE CLEAN IT OUT AND THE ROAD COLLAPSED BECAUSE THE PIPE WAS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE SO THEY HAD TO FIX THE PIPE BEFORE THEY COULD EVEN PUT THE VELVET .
SO WE'VE DONE OVER 200 VALVE INSTALLATIONS IN CHARLESTON. I DON'T THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME ON THE RIGHT THERE ARE THE CONTRACTORS IN IN THE ORANGE AND SO CHARLES WORK WITH B AND C THE GENTLEMAN ON THE RIGHT WAS RUNNING FOR MAYOR AND THAT WAS A PICTURE IN THE PAPER BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY CANDIDATE YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO SOLVE THE FLOODING ISSUE SO IT'S A IT'S A HOT TOPIC HE LOST AS I UNDERSTAND IT COLUMBIA, SOUTH CAROLINA WE DO GO INLAND. WE'VE DONE JOBS UP IN THE MOUNTAINS.
IT'S A DOT PROJECT IN CHARLOTTE 36 OCEAN AND ALL YOU DO IS SLIDE DOWN INTO THE PIPE SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO CLEAN IT OUT A LITTLE BIT BUT THAT'S BASICALLY IT AND THAT'S A #300 BELT. IT'S ALSO A 12 FOOT BOX CULVERTS THAT HAVE ROOM TO GET LIKE A BOBCAT IN THERE PICK IT UP THE HARRAH'S CASINO UP IN CHEROKEE JUST HAD A BIG
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EXPANSION. THOSE ARE SHORT BODY VALVES IN CASE YOU HAVE A SMALLER STRUCTURE WE CAN CUSTOM THE LENGTH OF THE BODIES THIS WAS TAKEN WE INSTALLED ITSELF IN WILMINGTON RIGHT ON THE MARSH THERE BY THE OCEAN AND TWO WEEKS LATER I THINK IT WAS A CAT FOUR HURRICANE CAME IN AND I WAS A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS BUT IT WORKED OUT WORKED WELL.SAVANNAH, GEORGIA THEY'VE INSTALLED A NUMBER OF VALVES ON MOUNT PLEASANT THAT PICTURE THE LEFT IS A CUL DE SAC WHERE DURING HIGH TIDES THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE EVERY TIME AND WE PUT IN A VALVE AND IT STOPPED A COLD. THIS IS SEABROOK THAT'S A CANTILEVERED VALVE ONCE AGAIN WE ADAPTED TO THE SITUATION SO WE DID IT AS AN EXISTING HEAD WHILE WE WERE ABLE TO HANG THAT VALVE OFF THE HEAD WALL IS SPECIALLY DESIGNED WITH THE SUPPORTS IN THE WALL IT'S A DRAWING OF ANOTHER ONE THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GO IN AND I'LL PALMS PORT OF CHARLESTON THAT'S A 60 INCH VALVE THAT WAS INSTALLED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO ANOTHER WISH WE HAD 242 INCH THEY REPLACED FLAP GATES THERE IN DOOM'S WEST THIS IS BEAUFORT COUNTY WE DID A BY ABOUT A YEAR AGO IN APRIL IT WAS IT WAS IT WORKED OUT AS FAR AS I KNOW IT'S ALL SO THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT I KNOW OF IN THE COUNTY HERE.
WE JUST DID THIS TWO WEEKS AGO IN MYRTLE BEACH 72 INCH AND YOU'LL NOTE THERE'S NO YOU KNOW THIS IS A BASIC MOUNT RIGHT HERE. WITH THE TABS WE CAN ALSO DO THE FLANGES THAT I'M SHOWING IN A FEW PICTURES. THIS IS ACTUALLY A BALL DESIGN WHERE WE FLIP IT ALL THE WAY TO THE PIPE AND WE THERE'S HOLES SUCH CREWS WILL GO IN INSIDE THE PIPE AND DRILL INTO THE RCP WHICH COMES A LOT OF COURSE AS FAR AS A FLANGE BEING NEEDED AND A HEAD WALL. NOW IN SOME CASES YOU HAVE BOX CULVERTS THEY BE LARGE.
IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PREVENT BACKFLOW. WE WILL BUILD STAINLESS STEEL FLANGES SO IT WILL FIT THE BOX CULVERT AND YOU CAN YOU KNOW WE WE CUSTOMIZED FOR WHAT YOU WHAT YOU MAY NEED IN LOW FLOW SITUATIONS SOMETIMES THOSE BIG VESSELS GOING TO OPEN UP SO WE'LL PUT SOME SMALLER VALVES DOWN BELOW IN SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD INSECTS ARE A REAL PROBLEM ESPECIALLY IN AUSTRALIA. I MEAN IT CAN BE A REAL DEADLY CONSEQUENCE SO YOU GOT TO KEEP THE WATER MOVING. THEY DON'T WANT STAGNANT WATER AND THESE ARE SOME MORE EXAMPLES WE DO A ELLIPTICAL PIPE WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN DO BUT ONCE AGAIN IT'S A CUSTOMIZED APPROACH.
THESE ARE USED FOR OLDER PREVENTION. WE ONE COUNTY OF NORTH CAROLINA THAT THOSE ARE IN THE MIDDLE EAST ORDER IS A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THE THE DROUGHTS THEY HAVE WITH SANITARY SEWERS. SO IF YOU'RE AT THE UPPER END OF THE STREAM IN SEWER YOU MAY BEEN IN A NEIGHBORHOOD SOMETIMES WHERE YOU SMELL THE SEWAGE.
IT'S USUALLY BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY RAIN IN A WHILE SO THEY CAN BE USED FOR ROAD WE DO FABRICATED DIFFERENT SIZES TO FIT EXISTING PIPES SO THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST ROUND AND THESE ARE JUST MORE UNUSUAL TYPES OF THINGS AND REALLY THAT'S WASN'T PLANNING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE OTHER BELLS I'VE BEEN WORKING HERE I COULD GO ON FOR A COUPLE HOURS FOOT.
WE DO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES TOWARDS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND I GUESS ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS BROUGHT IN HERE WAS YOU'RE LOOKING TO PUT SOME MORE IN. SO AS I SAID I HAVE SPURTS OVER THERE'S LITERATURE AND OF COURSE THE COUNTY HAS SOME EXPERIENCE OVER IT SO ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE ONE FOR TAYLOR OR MAYBE BRADLEY EITHER ONE. WHAT ARE YOUR WERE TOP THREE PICKS FOR THESE RIGHT NOW WHERE DO YOU SEE THE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO NEED NEEDED THE MOST THE NEXT ONE WILL GO IN THAT ACRES RIGHT NOW. ALL RIGHT SO WATER IN THERE
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WILL BE THE VERY NEXT ONE THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANYTHING QUITE LINED UP HOW THAT ONE COMPARE WHAT DO WE HAVE WAS THERE COST IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET OR IS IT IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET FOR THIS? SO IT'S KIND OF A CONTINUING PROGRAM WE ARE GOING THROUGH AND REPLACING THESE THAT ARE OLD AND NOT ANYMORE AND IN THE APPLICATIONS THAT THIS WORKS BETTER PUTTING ANOTHER FLAT RATE ON IT, WE'RE TRYING TO INSTITUTE THAT IN THE PIPELINE . YOU KNOW I WAS WORKING WITH KATIE HOOVER FOR A FEW YEARS OF YOU KNOW, JUST GETTING THE BALL ROLLING AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT FOR A LONG TIME SO I'M FROM HOLLYWOOD THAT'S THE ONLY WORKS THAT YOU NEED AND I SHOULD MENTION WE HAVE A WAREHOUSE ON DORAL, FLORIDA. WE KEEP A LOT OF SIZES OF 48 INCHES SO YOU CAN USUALLY HAVE THEM HERE IN A FEW DAYS AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT SPECIAL MONTHS WITH MR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT SEEMS LIKE A PERFECT PRODUCT ESPECIALLY HERE IN LOWCOUNTRY WITHOUT FALLS AND ACTUALLY PUT ONE IN ON THE PROJECT A PERSONAL THING THAT DIDN'T WORK VERY WELL SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND EDUCATING US ON THE ON THE VALVES WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON WITH REPORTS. WE'RE GOING TO START THE MONETARY UPDATE.IT'S EVEN HERE TAYLOR FOR THE MONETARY DON'T HAVE ANY YOU YOU HAVE UPDATE.
HI ANNA ROBERTS THE WATER QUALITY LAB LAST MEETING WAS MY FIRST MEETING SO IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK THIS QUARTER THINK OF THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR SO FAR WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON MEETING OUR ANNUAL QC REQUIREMENTS WITH OUR DIRECT CERTIFICATION WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING ON OUR COUNTY SAMPLING WHICH IS ALMOST AT THIS POINT I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT FIVE DRY SITES LEFT TO GO SAMPLE THAT BUT IT'S LOOKING PRETTY PRETTY NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR FAR AS EVERYTHING IT'S PRETTY COLD AND RAINY SO AND OUR ANALYST TYLER IS SPEARHEADING OUR SAMPLE COLLECTION EFFORTS AND WE'VE ALSO GOT A NEW NEW MEMBER JOINING US IN THE LAB TO A RECENT USB ALUMNI, MIKAYLA BROWN. SHE GRADUATED LAST SEMESTER.
SHE'S GOING BE HELPING US WITH OUR MICROBIAL SOURCE TRACKING ANALYSIS AND SHE'S GOING TO BE HELPING TYLER WITH HIS COUNTY SAMPLING AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT FOR JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR SO FAR. BUT IT'S EVEN ONGOING.
I MEAN SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
[5. REPORTS]
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT NEXT IN THIS WILL REPORTS I THINK TIME FULL ROYAL MR. WILLIS IS THE ONLY ONE JOINING US TODAY AND YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR WE'RE JUST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEST HARRIS AVENUE MADRID PARIS AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS A NUMBER OF ROADS SHUT DOWN AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TESTING THE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. BEEN THAT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. YEAH I THINK YOU BUT MAINTENANCE PROJECTS REPORTS MR.. OH YEAH YEAH COME ON THAT'S OKAY SORRY I DIDN'T SEE A WORD.YEAH UNDERSTOOD. DONNA FIELD JACOB TERRY WORSHIP MANAGER SO I JUST REALLY TO ANNOUNCE REAL QUICK THE KELLY YOU SEE WHO IS OUR FORMER STORE PROJECT MANAGER HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO STORE OPERATIONS MANAGER SO. HOPEFULLY SHE'LL BE SETTING UP THERE RELATIVELY SOON WITH A GOOD NEW NAME TAG FOR THAT WE DO HAVE OUR ANNUAL REPORT COMING UP. I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU GUYS DOING BUT I'M SURE THEY'RE ON TOP OF IT JUST LIKE WE ARE AND TIME I'D LOVE TO AND IF YOU GUYS ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE ARE DREDGING OUT THE JAVASCRIPT PUMP STATION CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW IT'S A BIG OPERATION WITH MALPAS UTILITIES AND BRW WE'RE REMOVING A LOT OF SEDIMENT BUILDUP, A LOT OF TRASH WEEDS OF THE SORT. SO GRAB SOME LUNCH AT THE WENDY'S AND PULL OVER AND WATCH WHAT THEY CAN DO AND OTHER THAN THAT THAT'S ALL I REALLY GOT. SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING I MEAN THINK ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR. CARTER ON MAINTENANCE PROJECTS REPORTS NOW THE NEW GYM THAT'S GOING TO SWEEP YOUR SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT STORMWATER HAS HAS COMPLETED AND BRING YOU UP TO DATE I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM ALL I SEE Y'ALL HAVE OH YEAH THE PROJECT PACKET SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OF THE MAJOR PROJECT ONE OF THEM IS DOWN ON B PINE DRIVE IN THE AREA AND THIS PROJECT IMPROVED 1243 LINEAR FEET OF DRAINAGE OR DRAINAGE SYSTEM. THE SCOPE WORK INCLUDED
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CLEANING OUT 815 LINEAR FEET OF ROADSIDE DITCH, REPLACING EIGHT DRIVEWAY PIPES, ONE CROSS LINE PIPE, 167 LINEAR FEET OF ROADSIDE PIPE AND 20 LINEAR FEET OF CHANNEL PIPE ALSO.WE REPAIRED TWO CONCRETE DRIVEWAYS TO CATCH BASINS CLEARING OUT FIVE CATEGORIES AND GETTING 241 LINEAR FEET OF CHANNEL PIPE AND INSTALLING ABOUT 40 ROADS A CONTROL TOTAL COST OF THAT WAS 92,935 IF YOU FLIP TO YOUR PACKET AGAIN I CAN'T I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THE WON'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT STORMWATER HAS COMPLETED THOUGH THE ONE OF THE OTHER MINOR PROJECTS WE'VE FLIPPED THROUGH THE TANNEHILL HEAD ON NEW ON THESE ROAD AND CORPUS CHRISTI HERE THIS PROJECT GETTING IMPROVED THOUSAND 353 LINEAR FEET OF DRAINAGE SYSTEM THE SCOPE OF WORK IT INCLUDED CLEANING OUT 232,352 LINEAR FEET OF ROADSIDE DITCH AND TURNING TEN DRIVEWAY PIPES THE TOTAL FOR THAT PROJECT WAS 14,513 AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WALL APPROVED FROM SULLIVAN THAT TAYLOR STATED PIGGYBACK OFF HER WE'RE GOING TO INSTALL THAT DOWN BACK ACRES.
IF I GOT OUTSPOKEN WITH MY SUPERINTENDENT SAYS AS SAID THE SUPERINTENDENT AND FORMER WE'RE IT'S A TITLE THING SO THE SPRINGTIME COMES IN AND WE HAD THE PLAN DOWN THERE THEN WE NEED THE BARRIER TO BLOCK WATER AND ALL THAT SO I'M SPEAKING WITH THEM HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE HAD THAT THROUGH ALL OF OUR INSTALLED TAYLOR THAT WOULD BE OUT THERE SO I'LL MAKE SURE HAVE PLENTY OF BEFORE DURING AND AFTER PICTURE SO NEXT BOARD ME I CAN SEE HOW THE PROCESS GOES FOR CRUISING WITH I THINK. ALL RIGHT NEXT ON REPORTS WE HAVE OUR LEADS REPORTS THIS LIST IS MS. HOWARD I THINK SINCE BEEN PROMOTED TO CHAIRMAN OF COUNCIL I THINK WE HAVE A NEW LIAISONS THAT GROW CORRECT IT'LL BE MS. PAULA BROWN AND I DON'T SEE HER HERE TODAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL SEE MS..
BROWN AT THE NEXT MEETING. BUT I DO WANT TO THANK MS.. HOWARD FOR ALL HER TIME AND EFFORT BEEN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH OUR COMMITTEE OR BOARD AND ALL OUR MEETINGS AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED . PERSON THINK THINK HER ALL RIGHT. TAYLOR UP NEXT WITH THE STORMWATER UTILITY REPORT.
THANK YOU. AND AT THIS TIME LIKE TO INTRODUCE MS..
VALENTINO SHE IS OUR EDUCATION OUTREACH COORDINATOR. SHE'S GOING TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON HOW OUR EDUCATION AND PUBLIC OUTREACH IS GOING. HELLO, MY VALENTINE.
APPLAUSE SO I'M THE ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION COORDINATOR.
I WORK WITH THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING PROGRAM AS WELL AS A STORMWATER PROGRAM AND LEAD EFFORTS IN THE COMMUNITY TO EDUCATE ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON. I'M DOING THIS THING CALLED GO GREEN SERIES. I'M GOING ALL THROUGHOUT ALL THE COUNTY LIBRARIES HAVING TALKS ON VARIOUS TOPICS SUCH AS STORMWATER COMPOSTING, RECYCLING.
I HAD TWO STORMWATER ONE ON ONE TALKS ONE IN BLUFFTON AND ONE IN SAINT HELENA HAD A GREAT TURNOUT FOR BOTH OF THOSE VERY INQUISITIVE PEOPLE, REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK GOING TO WORK ON CONTINUING THAT ON AFTER THIS SET OF SERIES STARTS ALSO I HAD A RAIN BARREL AND STORMWATER TALK IN LOW COUNTRY MONTESSORI TO A 50 OR SO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THEY'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY DOING A RAIN BARREL ON THIS NEW PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE NEXT TO THEIR SCHOOL SO POTENTIAL COLLABORATION WITH THEM ONCE THEY GET ALL THE NECESSARY SUPPLIES SO THEY'LL BE PRETTY COOL TO WORK WITH THE STUDENTS. ON INSTALLING RAIN BARRELS AND TALKING ABOUT BENEFITS OF THAT OTHER STUFF IS I'M WORKING I'M PLANNING ON PLANNING THE EARTH 2025 FOUR EVENT FOR COUNTY WHERE COUNTY EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS LOCAL PARTNERS GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND PICK UP LITTER ALL AROUND COUNTY SO IN IN THE THICK OF THAT THAT'S GOING BE APRIL 25TH ON A FRIDAY ALL OF PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE ALL PUBLIC WORKS STAFF WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THE LITTER ALONG WITH COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT VOLUNTEER TO SIGN UP AND WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE SUPPLIES AS WELL AS THE INCENTIVE OF LUNCHES AND T SHIRTS AS A THANK YOU TO PICKING UP WITH THEIR VOLUNTEER GROUPS SO PRETTY EXCITED WITH THAT WE WORKED WITH UCB STUDIO OUR CLASS TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP THE LOGO AND FOR THE EVENT ALL OF THAT AND THE THEME IS UNITED FOR THE LOW COUNTRY SO JUST TO
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PROMOTE THAT OUR REGION IS VERY UNIQUE SPECIAL ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO LITTER AND HOW IT TRASHES THAT AND THE MARSH THAT GETS AFFECTED BY IT. AND THEN THIS PAST WEEKEND I ATTENDED A FAN IT WAS AT UCB IT IS A MARINE LIFE SORT OF EVENT WHERE IT WAS ESTIMATED ABOUT 150 ATTENDEES, CHILDREN AND PARENTS ALL AGES WERE THERE AND KIND OF JUST TALKED ABOUT STORM WATER AND ITS EFFECT ON LIFE THERE AND I TEND TO READ THOSE OF EVENTS REGULARLY AND YEAH JUST CONTINUING TO WORK OPPORTUNITIES TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND COLLABORATE WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO SIMILAR THINGS BUT YEAH, THANK YOU.THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL GOOD INFORMATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT, TAYLOR. UP NEXT AS PROJECTS REPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON MR. MITCHELL AND BOARD MEMBERS FOR OUR PROJECT UPDATE A REMINDER TO THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT THE EXPENDITURES SUMMARIES REVENUE REPORTS ARE DUE SO PLEASE SEND THOSE TO MS. SALLY WE HAD SOME EMPLOYEE OVER SO THOSE WERE PREVIOUSLY SENT.
WE APOLOGIZE. WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO EMPLOYEES EMAIL SO PLEASE RESEND THOSE FOR THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE RESTRUCTURE. WE HAD A MEETING ON FEBRUARY SIX WITH WILBERT AND THE ORIGINAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE STORMWATER UTILITY WILBERT PRESENTATION KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT THEY WALKED THROUGH WHEN THEY ARE STARTING TO STRUCTURE A NEW FEE AND THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
SO THE MUNICIPALITIES WERE INVITED GIVE THEIR INPUT AND KIND OF A WISH LIST OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME OUT THAT FEE RESTRUCTURE AND THEN WOLPERT WILL PUT TOGETHER OPTIONS AND AT THAT TIME WE WILL PRESENT THOSE OPTIONS TO THE BOARD FOR YOU ALL TO VOTE ON TO SEE WHICH ONE WE LIKE THE BEST. THERE'S ALSO THE OPTION OF TWEAKING OPTIONS SO THEY'RE NOT SET IN STONE. WE KIND OF GET PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT WE WANT WITH THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF BEING FAIR AND EQUITABLE AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE SO SIMPLER FEE STRUCTURE UNDER BETTER UNDERSTANDABLE EVERYBODY FAIRER FOR EVERYBODY FOR THE SO LOW CODE DESIGN MANUAL BLUFFTON PRESENTED THEIR DRAFT OF EDITS FOR THE MANUAL TO THEIR COUNCIL WORKSHOP IN JANUARY I THINK IT WENT WELL. I EMAILED A DRAFT TO ALL OF THE EDITS AND WE'RE OPEN FOR A COMMENT FROM Y'ALL. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT CONSIDERING A THIRD PARTY TO HIRE THEM TO LOOK AT THE SELECTION MANUAL AS A WHOLE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FEASIBLE AND THAT HAS THE CORE AT ITS HEART OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. SO THAT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT FALL THROUGH IN THE FUTURE WE CAN DEFINITELY HIRE SOMEONE TO DO THAT.
THIS IS SOMETHING IF AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING I THOUGHT OF WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THAT TO A THIRD PARTY. I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF SHARING INFORMATION INSTEAD OF HAVING THESE WHAT I CALL OF STUPIDITIES YOU KNOW IT'S MINE. IT MAKES ME SMARTER. HAVE DONE IN THE PAST OR IS THE POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE TALKING TO SEE WHAT CHARLESTON STORMWATER IS DOING BERKELEY COUNTY IS DOING TO SAY HEY LET US, TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR MANUALS. YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT OURS BECAUSE A LOT TIMES YOU CAN SAY I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT AND THEY DO THAT WAY BETTER THAN WE DO AND THEY COULD CONVERSELY DO THE SAME OR THEY MIGHT VERY WELL SAY TO A LOCAL MANUAL WE WANT SOMETHING JUST LIKE IF WE THOUGHT OF DOING THAT IS THAT FEASIBLE? IS IT IS IT LEGALLY POSSIBLE TO DO THAT? IT IS AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH ADJACENT COUNTIES IN THE PAST. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BROADEN OUR SCOPE COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE COASTAL REGION OF SOUTH CAROLINA. I THINK THAT THAT IS A VERY VALID POINT AND WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. I THINK IT MIGHT SAVE US A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, YOU KNOW, EVEN FOR YOU KNOW, FAR AS OREGON IF WE NEEDED TO BUT ANY OF THE COASTAL COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND SAVE US SOME MONEY AND GET SOME CROSS DALE SOME THE YES SIR I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMENT ON THE SILICA MANUAL EDITS FOR THE PROJECTS REPORT FOR THE ANDROID DRAINAGE STUDY SEAMAN WHITESIDE WAS SELECTED AS THE FIRM THAT WILL BE CONDUCTED THAT DRAINAGE STUDY PROCUREMENT IN THE PROCESS OF ISSUING THAT CONTRACT WE DO HAVE TO WORK WITH RIAA. WE DO HAVE A GRANT SO THERE IS A PROCESS OF THEM CHECKING THE TO MAKE SURE IT FULFILLS EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED AND THEN IT WILL BE PASSED TO US FOR OUR LEGAL TEAM TO REVIEW PRIOR TO BEING ISSUED. SEAMAN WHITESIDE SO WE'RE
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MAKING SURE WE GO THROUGH ALL THE PROPER PROCEDURES THERE BUT WE ANTICIPATE FOR WORK TO START WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH SO THAT WILL BE FANTASTIC TO GET THAT GOING FOR BABE HINES WE HAD KICKOFF MEETING ON SITE IN JANUARY FOR WOLPERT AND COUNTY STAFF.WE WENT OVER ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ON FOOT. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED I THAT'S WHY I LOVE WOLFORD FOR OUR CONSULTING NOW OFTEN DO YOU SEE ENGINEERS PUT ON BOOTS AND TRUMP THE GROUND BUT THEY DID. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY INCLUDED ALL OF THE DRAINAGE AREA THAT WAS COMING TO THAT ONE POINT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT REDOING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK BEFORE WE MAKE A DESIGN FOR THAT.
ALSO WE HAVE A ONSITE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 5TH WITH CADMIUM AND A SCHRADER.
MR. MOORE COUNCILMAN THOMAS REESE AND HE IS ALSO OUR NEW CO-CHAIR LIAISON AS MS..
SALLY REMINDED ME. SO WE WILL HAVE THAT MEETING ON MARCH 5TH.
THEY WANT TO WALK THROUGH AND SEE KIND OF ON THE GROUND WHAT OUR PLANS ARE, WHAT WE'RE SURVEYING, WHAT THE ISSUES ARE AND KIND OF BALLPARK OF HOW WE PLAN TO ADDRESS THEM FOR SHOW J BRAGG HAS REQUESTED A MEETING WITH THE QM AND SCHRADER FOR IT TO RUN THEIR PROPOSAL BY THEM TO CONTINUE THAT CONTRACT. SO I WILL LET YOU KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THAT MEETING.
THE PROPOSAL WAS $442,000 AND 24 MONTHS FOR DESIGN. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT IS AND I WILL KEEP THE BOARD UPDATED THAT FOUR RIVERS AND WHAT OUR IS GOING TO ISSUE US STAMPED PLANS FOR THAT WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS AND WE WILL HAVE BOOTS ON THE GROUND WE HOPE WITH BY THE SECOND WEEK OF MARCH. SO WE'LL SEE WE'LL TRY IT.
THAT'S IF YOU THE DOUBLE LAYER PIPE SITUATION WE HAVE SINKHOLES THAT ARE IN PEOPLE'S YARDS THEY'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH US SO WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD AS FAST AS WE CAN BEING THAT THAT'S ALMOST BECOME A SAFETY ISSUE AT THIS POINT. TUXEDO PARK AND HICKORY HILL PASSED AT JANUARY PSC MEETING THEY WILL GO TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL IN FEBRUARY AND THEN WE WILL GET THOSE TASK ORDERS ISSUED FOR OKATIE RIVER PARK DAM.
THIS IS IF YOU REMEMBER PROJECT TO REPAIR A DAM THAT'S ON A POND THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF A PASSIVE PARKS PROJECT. SO WE MET WITH THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL PROJECTS THIS MORNING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE FOR TIMELINE WOLFER IS DEVELOPING THE DESIGN FOR THE MAINTENANCE REPAIR OF THAT DAM. IT HAS A FAILING PIPE GOING THROUGH IT BASICALLY THERE'S IT'S A TUNNEL NOW UNDERNEATH THE DAM WHICH IS NOT GOOD.
SO AT THIS POINT WE'RE WAITING ON THE DAM DESIGNATION FROM THE US TO TELL US ROBUST OUR DESIGN HAS TO BE WE'RE HOPING THAT WE JUST CUT OUT THE OLD PIPE AND PUT IT IN THE NEW PIPE PROPERLY UNDER DURING IT AND PUT THE RIGHT AGGREGATE COMPACTION RATES PROPER AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT AS A MAINTENANCE PROJECT HOPEFULLY NOT SO MUCH AS A FULL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT BUT WE WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED ONCE.
WE HEAR FROM DHS ON WHAT THE CLASSIFICATION OF DAM IS FOR ROYAL PINES.
I SAID BEFORE WE DO WE DID FIND AN ODOR REPORT AND IT DIDN'T REALLY GIVE ANY FEASIBLE CORRECTIONS FOR THAT AREA. WE STILL HAVE THAT ON OUR LIST TO DISCUSS WITH DOTTIE.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MAINTENANCE ISSUES ON THEIR SIDE THAT WE THINK WOULD HELP BUT THOSE ARE COMPLETE. WE ARE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS FROM THE BOARD HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT SITUATION BECAUSE THE ENGINEERING JUST DOES NOT THERE FOR HOW TO FIX THE FLOODING IN THAT ONE BACKYARD SLIGHT OF DOING WORK ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE AN EASEMENT WHICH AS WE ALL KNOW WE DON'T DO SO RECOMMENDATIONS WELCOME ON THAT SITUATION WE ARE STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE FEDS ON THE GRANT FOR THE ARTHUR HORN PROJECT.
IT HAS BEEN BACK AND FORTH ON WHAT PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO BE FUNDED OR NOT BUT I AM SURE THAT THIS IS THAT THE RECENT CUTS HAVE NOT AFFECTED THIS PROJECT SO WE ARE PLANNING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AND THERE HAS ALSO BEEN INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS OF PUTTING MONEY ASIDE FOR MAYBE FISCAL YEAR 27 IF THIS GRANT ISN'T MOVING BY THEN TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS PROJECT STARTED AND COMPLETED BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN WE HAVE CITIZENS WAITING FOR THIS PROJECT BE DONE. SO THERE WILL BE TALKS IN THE FUTURE ABOUT FINANCING IN-HOUSE AS COMPARED TO WAITING FOR THE GRANT TO COME THROUGH. WILBERT IS OUR CURRENT ON CALL
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CONSULTANT. THEIR CONTRACT EXPIRES OCTOBER OF 2025 SO WE WILL BE PUTTING OUT A BID FOR OUR EXCUSE TO GET NEW COMPANIES ON WE HAVE AN INSTRUCTED THAT WE CAN HAVE UP TO THREE COMPANIES ON CALL PREVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN ONE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO HELP WITH FAIRNESS OF ASSIGNMENT AS WELL AS PROCUREMENT PROCEDURES SO QUESTIONS ON THAT I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ON DON'T THE PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTS BUT CAN YOU JUST REFRESH MY MEMORY ON WHAT HAS BEEN JUST HAS GONE BACK TO SHELL POINT FORTUNATELY CONTRACT QUESTION I COULDN'T QUITE GET IT IN THERE I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP AND RUN THIS BUSINESS IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M DOING OKAY NOTED STAFF UPDATE IN THE RESTRUCTURE OF HOW IT WORKS THERE WILL BE A NEW PROJECT MANAGER POSITION OPENING UP HOPEFULLY SOON THAT WILL BE SPECIFICALLY FOR STORMWATER PROJECTS TO HANDLE ALL OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING AND THAT WILL BE GOING ON IN THE FUTURE TO HELP WITH THE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE COUNTY, THE DEVELOPERS AND CONTRACTORS AND WHATNOT. SO THAT POSITION WILL BE OPENING SOON. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ALL RIGHT.[6. UNFINISHED BUSINESS]
THANK YOU, TAYLOR. JUST YOU MIGHT STAY UP THERE IS THE ONLY THING I HAVE AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO UNFINISHED WAS JUST TO DO IT ASK YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON THE SHAREPOINT PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT.YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS. YOU KNOW THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN HELD UP IT SEEMS FOR A LONG TIME AND WE'VE HAD YOU KNOW WAS BRAG AND THE VERY COMPANY HAS BEEN HERE THEY'VE HAD A HOLD ON THESE THINGS YET IT SEEMS IT'S JUST COME TO A STANDSTILL OVER KNOW MAYBE JUNE KNOWS BETTER NOT BEEN THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR WHERE THEY'VE DONE NOTHING SO I GUESS IT PROBABLY GOES ALONG MY QUESTION IS WERE WHERE WERE THEY DOING AND WHY ARE WE EVEN REENGAGING THESE FOLKS? HAVE THEY BEEN DRAGGING THEIR FEET FOR SO LONG? THERE MUST BE A GOOD REASON. CURRENTLY WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE DELIVERABLE IT'S A MAP OF 12 EASEMENTS THAT THE COUNTY CURRENTLY OWNS AND THE DETERMINATION WAS THAT WE NEED TO CLEAR THEM AND CREATE MAINTENANCE SHELVES WHICH WE HAVE PUT THAT PROJECT OUT TO BID CURRENTLY AND OTHER THAN THAT THERE HAS BEEN ONE OUTFALL THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT RUNS UNDER BROAD RIVER HAMRICK DRIVE THAT NEEDS TO BE UPSIZED BUT.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE HOLD UP EITHER AND SO WE WILL WAIT TO THE OUTCOME OF THE MEETING WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. OKAY, GOOD. YEAH THAT'S I WOULD SAY ONCE WE GET THAT MEETING WITH THE COUNTY MINUTES LATER WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO PRETTY MUCH SAY WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE I DID WAS YEAH AND ON YEAH YEAH YEAH LET'S GET ROGER UNDER ALL THE QUESTIONS I GOT YOU AND IT'S JUST THAT WAS ALL I HAD FOUR UNFINISHED BUSINESS MY MISSING THREE BOARD OR TAYLOR? NO, SIR, I DON'T THINK SO. ALL RIGHT.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS.WE JUST NEED TO GO THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT APPOINTMENT OF OUR CHAIR FOR 2025 YEAR FOR THE STORMONT TOOLBAR. I THINK WE'VE SPOKEN OFFLINE AND THE CONSENSUS WAS IN TO MR. FINEBERG HE'S HE'S GOOD TO GO FOR ANOTHER YEAR SO YOU KNOW I'LL MAKE A MOTION LET'S SEE ONE HAS A DISCUSSION I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT MR. MARC FINEBERG TO CHAIR THE STORY TO THE BOARD FOR THIS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR SECOND SECOND THING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OKAY AND AND I HAVE ALSO TALKED WE'VE AGREED TO SERVE AS CO-CHAIR FOR FOR NEXT YEAR SO ANYONE HAS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE ME FOR CO-CHAIR MOTION TO NOMINATE SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT.
THAT WAS PRETTY QUICK AND EASY . NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON AND RECOMMEND TO MOVE NATURAL RESOURCES FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
WE'VE HAD THE BUDGET FOR FOR A FEW WEEKS NOW WE'VE GONE THROUGH WE ALSO HAD A CALL LAST WEEK TO GO THROUGH AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD. WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION KIND OF GOING THROUGH CERTAIN LINE ITEMS WE DIDN'T QUESTION SO ON MY END THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD
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WERE ANSWERED JUST ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER HAVE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING BEFORE WE PUT THIS BUDGET PREPARED TO RECOMMEND I'LL SAY THIS MUCH I APPRECIATE YOU COMING FORWARD WITH THE ZOOM CALL ALLOWS THAT BECAUSE WE DID THAT YEAR PRIOR AND IT ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND DO IT AGAIN THIS YEAR JUST MADE IT A LOT EASIER THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THE SPREADSHEET THIS YEAR THIS YEAR WITH WHAT WE ASKED LAST YEAR MADE IT A LOT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND. SO I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT MADE SENSE SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. BOTH YEAH, I'LL SEE YOU BACK THERE AGAIN.ALL THE CREDIT GOES TO THE STATE. THANK YOU, TAMMY THANK THAT WAS VERY GOOD THE SAME JUST SIMPLIFIED. SHE DID IT.
DOES ANYONE AN I KNOW A COUPLE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT COULD BE HERE WE'RE GOOD WITH THEM WE DO HAVE A QUORUM BUT THEY WERE YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT VOTED ON IT, THEY WERE GOING TO APPROVE IT AND SO THEY WERE HERE. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION UNLESS THERE'S FURTHER COMMENT TO GO HAD AN APPROVED THE ORDER FOR YOUR 226 BUDGET AS PRESENTED TO US ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ALL RIGHT SO AS ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO 70 THE COUNTY IMPLEMENTATION READY TO BE RECOMMENDATIONS RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT MR. SAM GARDNER I WAS GOING YOU KNOW READY YEAH. ALL RIGHT.
OKAY. I'M SAM CONNOR AND THE THE AGGRIEVED PARTY FOR THE BILL FOR THE PERMIT SYSTEM. ONE AFFIRMATIVE WAS ISSUED AT 468 GALVIN PLANTATION ROAD I LIVE AT 70 CALHOUN PLANTATION ROAD WITH MY WIFE AND TWO YOUNG BOYS.
I'M A PRACTICING PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND I SPECIALIZE IN STORMWATER CALCULATIONS AND SITE DESIGN FOR LAND DISTURBANCE PERMITTING AND I ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR. I WAS THE STORMWATER ENGINEER FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FROM 2015 TO 2018 AND HE'S NOT HE'S NOT HERE TODAY. BUT BILL BOWER WAS MY BOSS WHEN WAS WORKING AT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON THERE MY APPEAL SIMPLY STATED IS THAT MULTIPLE AREAS WERE MADE AND DECIDED TO ISSUE THE STORMWATER PERMIT APPROVAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AT 68 CALHOUN PLANTATION ROAD THE ERRORS ARE SIGNIFICANT AND IF NOT CORRECTED WILL RESULT IN NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF COUNTY CITIZENS THROUGH THE DEGRADATION WATER QUALITY OF THE COALITION RIVER ITS WATER DEGRADATION WILL BE ESPECIALLY SIGNIFICANT IN THE THE MARSH AND SMALL TIDAL CREEK ADJACENT TO THE THE DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS WHERE MY FAMILY AND I SWIM AND FISH AND JUST RECREATION IN IN THE MARSH THERE THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT IS A REGULATED SITE THIS IS BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT WILL RESULT IN MORE THAN OR EQUAL TO ONE ACRE OF DISTURBANCE AND MORE THAN OR EQUAL TO 5000 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. AND JUST TO RECAP FROM THE APPEAL, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL DISTURB APPROXIMATELY TWO AND A HALF ACRES AND CREATE APPROXIMATELY 39,000 SQUARE FEET OF NEW AND PERVIOUS SURFACE. JUST SO IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S A IT'S A REGULATED SITE THE REQUIREMENT FOR FOR REGULATED SITES THAT THEY SUBMIT A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF ALL APPLICABLE CODES AND REGULATIONS AND THAT PLAN GOES THROUGH TECHNICAL REVIEW PROCESS TO CONFIRM IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODES AND REGULATIONS. THIS PROCESS IS DESCRIBED IN THE COUNTY STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THIS IS JUST A DIRECT QUOTE FROM SECTION FIVE OF THE 2024 COUNTY STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN AND FIRST QUOTE IS SECTION TWO AND FIVE OF THE BP MANUAL STATES ALL DEVELOPMENT THAT CREATES RUNOFF AND OR DISCHARGE THAT MAY ADVERSELY IMPACT WATER QUALITY IN COUNTY STREAMS, LAKES AND TIDAL WATERBODIES THEREFORE ALL PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT SHALL BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A DRAINAGE PLAN TO SHOW COMPLIANCE WITH PEAK ATTENUATION WATER QUALITY VOLUME AND CONSTRUCTION POLLUTION CONTROL REQUIREMENT. SO THIS MANUAL IN THE THE SECOND ONE OUT OF SECTION FIVE ALSO IS THE REVIEW PROCESS STARTS WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WITH HILARY AUSTIN ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
MISS AUSTIN DISTRIBUTES ENGINEERING RELATED ITEMS SUCH AS STORMWATER CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND CALCULATIONS TO THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT WITH JULIANA CORBIN, ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER WHO COORDINATES WITH A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ON THE SUBMITTED DESIGN. AND SO THAT'S JUST A DESCRIPTION OF THE TECHNICAL REVIEW THAT COUNTY HAS IN PLACE FOR REVIEWING REGULATED SITES BUT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, A COMPLETE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS NEVER SUBMITTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND DRAINAGE PLANS AND CALCULATIONS WERE REVIEWED BY THE ZONING DEPARTMENT WITHOUT
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INPUT FROM THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT AND IT DID NOT GO THROUGH THE TECHNICAL REVIEW PROCESS AND THE STORMWATER PERMIT APPROVAL WAS ISSUED BY. THE ZONING DEPARTMENT NOT ISSUED BY THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT AND THE RESULT OF THIS WAS THE DEVELOPMENT AT 60 A CAMERON PLANTATION ROAD WHICH IS YOU WANT TO PERMIT APPROVAL BUT IT DOES NOT MEET ANY OF THE COUNTY OR STORMWATER CONTROL REQUIREMENTS.WHEN I SAID THAT IT DOESN'T MEET ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH CALCULATIONS AND DESIGN PLANS FOR MEETING THE COUNTY VOLUME AND VOLUME CONTROL WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENT WERE THOSE CALCULATIONS AND THE DESIGN OF THOSE VIEWS DID NOT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COUNTY STORMWATER DESIGN MANUAL ? ADDITIONALLY AS A SMALL IT MUST FOR FOR COUNTY HAVE WATER QUALITY REGULATIONS THAT ARE EQUAL TO OR MORE STRINGENT THAN THE STATE REGULATIONS. THIS PROJECT WAS WITHOUT MEETING THE WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENT FOR SITES DRAINING TO WITHIN 1000 FEET OF SHELLFISH BEDS. THAT REQUIREMENT IS TO RETAIN ON SITE THE FIRST ONE AND A HALF INCHES OF RUNOFF FROM THE BUILT UPON AREAS ON THE SITE. SO THIS MEANS THAT THE REQUIREMENT THIS SITE WAS TO RETAIN 5101 CUBIC FEET OF RUNOFF ON THE SITE BUT IT WAS APPROVED EVEN THOUGH THE PROJECT ONLY RETAINS 776 CUBIC FEET OF RUNOFF ON SITE THAT'S A WATER QUALITY VOLUME RETENTION SHORTFALL OF 4325 CUBIC FEET OR IN GALLONS.
THAT'S 32,353 GALLONS. AND THEN LASTLY THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED FOR REQUIRING A WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE PRIVATE ANIMAL FEEDING OPERATION ON THE SITE THAT HAS THE CAPACITY TO CONFINE EIGHT HORSES THIS FACILITY BECAUSE IT DIDN'T CONFINE HAS THE CAPACITY FOR EIGHT HORSES IT HAS THE CAPACITY TO GENERATE 800 GALLONS OF WASTEWATER PER DAY WHICH IS MORE WASTEWATER THAN IS GENERATED BY A SIX BEDROOM HOME EVERY DAY AND THE WASTEWATER WILL BE COLLECTED IN THE FORM FLOOR DRAINS OF STABLES AND SIMPLY DISCHARGE TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING WITH NO OR CONTAINMENT. THE FACILITY WILL ALSO GENERATE HAS THE CAPACITY TO GENERATE 9.6 TO 24 CUBIC FEET OF MANURE AND BEDDING EVERY DAY AND THERE'S ALSO NO WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THAT WASTE EITHER.
THIS WILL LIKELY ALLOW FOR AN ILLICIT DISCHARGE TO THE CARLTON RIVER AS A SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN. COUNTY HAS AN ILLICIT ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS THE DISCHARGE OF ANIMAL WASTE TO RECEIVING WATER BODIES.
BUT THIS AUTHORITY NOT USED. COUNTY HAS THE REGULATIONS AND THE PROCESSES IN PLACE.
THEY JUST NEED TO BE FOLLOWED. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT? UM, YEAH. JUST SO YOU KNOW, I THINK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WANTS TO SPEAK TO THE KIND OF OKAY AS PART OF THE BOARD WHAT OUR RESPONSE . OKAY. YEAH.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME I'M JUST COMING BACK UP FOR SURE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS DYLAN KIDD, DEPUTY ATTORNEY COUNTY ATTORNEY HERE IN BEAUFORT AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF STAFF TODAY.
THERE IS A LOT TO COVER HERE. I'LL TRY AND KEEP IT AS BRIEF AS I CAN BUT IT IS STAFF'S POSITION THAT CONNORS APPEAL IS NOT PROPERLY BEFORE THIS BOARD AT ALL BUT ESPECIALLY AT TIME AND FURTHERMORE THAT EVEN IF THIS BOARD REACHED THE MERITS OF THE CONNORS IN THE FUTURE THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT MADE NO ERRORS IN PROCESSING THE STORMWATER AT ISSUE.
AS THE BOARD IS AWARE, THE OWNER OR DEVELOPER OF THIS PARTIAL PROPERTY APPLIED FOR STORMWATER PERMIT IN CONNECTION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY THE REQUEST WENT THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS WHERE IN THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT EXAMINE THE APPLICATION AND HAVE A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT TO PERFORM THE CALCULATIONS THEY CONVEYED THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE APPROVAL TO MS. AUSTIN AND MS. HILLERY AUSTIN AND ZONING ISSUED BOTH THE BUILDING PERMITS AND STORMWATER PERMIT. THE CONNORS APPEALED THE ISSUANCE OF ALL OF THOSE PERMITS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AND THAT APPEAL WAS HEARD IN NOVEMBER. THE ZEBRA RULED THAT NONE THE PERMITS WERE ERRONEOUSLY ISSUED INCLUDING THE STORMWATER PERMIT . THE CONNORS APPEALED THE ISSUANCE OF THAT PERMIT ALONG WITH THE OTHERS THE APPEAL THE DECISION OF THE ZEBRA TO THE CIRCUIT COURT THAT IS CURRENTLY PENDING BEFORE CIRCUIT COURT RIGHT NOW.
AS A RESULT, EVEN IF THIS BOARD COULD HEAR THE CONNORS OF APPEAL IT WOULD BE UNABLE TO DO SO AT THIS TIME WITHOUT CREATING CONCURRENT PROCEEDINGS WHEREIN THIS BOARD IS EXAMINING AN ISSUE THAT THE CIRCUIT COURT CURRENTLY HAS JURISDICTION OF . AND SO FOR THAT REASON ALONE THIS APPEAL IS NOT PROPERLY BEFORE THE BOARD AT THIS TIME. MOREOVER, THE CONNORS BY THIS
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PROCEEDING HAVE APPEALED A RULING OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS TO THE STORMONT BOARD. THERE IS NO AUTHORITY WITHIN THE ORDINANCE THE CDC ANYWHERE ELSE WITHIN COUNTY'S CODE OF LAWS TO PERMIT THIS TRACK. THE CDC STATES THAT THE VENUE APPEAL FROM ACB ZBA DETERMINATION IS TO THE CIRCUIT COURT AND THE CONNORS HAVE THEMSELVES OF THAT VENUE. NOTHING IN THE CDC OR THE ORDINANCE PERMITS AN APPEAL FROM A ZIBA DECISION TO THE STORMWATER BOARD AND SO THIS BOARD CANNOT HEAR THAT APPEAL A RESULT FURTHERMORE THIS APPEAL IS ALSO UNTIMELY AS YOU'LL SEE IN OUR ORDINANCE AN APPELLANT IS PERMITTED 30 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF AN ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION TO FILE AN APPEAL.THE CONNORS CITE THE DATE THAT THE ZBA MAIL THE DECISION IN THEIR APPEAL AS THE BEGINNING DATE FOR THE LIMITATIONS PERIOD FOR THEIR APPEAL. THIS IS INCORRECT NOT ONLY FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED TO APPEAL AS A RULING TO THE BOARD BUT ALSO BECAUSE UNDER THE ORDINANCE AND THE WORDING THEY'RE IN THE CLOCK BEGAN TO RUN AT THE TIME THE ADMINISTRATOR WHICH THE ORDINANCE DEFINED AS THE PUBLIC DIRECTOR, THE STORMWATER MANAGER AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS DESIGNATED TO INTERPRET ENFORCE THE ARTICLE MADE THEIR DECISION IN THIS CASE EVEN IF APPLICABLE TO THE BOARD. THIS WOULD HAVE OCCURRED WHEN MS. BREWER COMMUNICATE APPROVE THE APPLICATION AND THAT WAS WELL BEFORE THE MAILING DATE OF THE ZBA DECISION SO THE APPEAL IS THEREFORE UNTIMELY NOW THE CONNORS WOULD LIKELY RESPOND BY STATING THEY DID NOT RECEIVE NOTICE WHEN. MS. BREWER APPROVED THE APPLICATION AND THAT IS CORRECT AND ALSO PRECISELY THE POINT THE STORMWATER ORDINANCE IS NOT WRITTEN TO PERMIT A NEIGHBOR TO CHALLENGE THE ISSUANCE OF A STORMWATER PERMIT TO A LANDOWNER BASED UPON THE NEIGHBOR SPECULATION AS TO THE EFFECTS OF THE NEIGHBORS ON THE NEIGHBORS PROPERTY THE STORMWATER BOARD WAS NOT CREATED TO HEAR SUCH APPEALS AND IT'S OUR POSITION THAT EVEN IF THE APPEAL WERE TIMELY AND APPROPRIATELY SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD, THE BOARD COULD NOT ENTERTAIN THE APPEAL THE POWERS AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE BOARD LISTED IN THE ORDINANCE DO NOT INCLUDE HEARING APPEALS FROM NEIGHBORING LANDOWNERS AS TO THE ISSUED ISSUANCE OF STORMWATER PERMIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
IT SIMPLY WASN'T CONTEMPLATED BY THE ORDINANCE OR ANY OTHER CREATING AUTHORITY FOR THIS BOARD. AND FINALLY IT IS STAFF'S POSITION THAT THE APPLICATION WAS APPROPRIATELY CONSIDERED AND IMPROVED AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO DEMONSTRATING THAT IN CIRCUIT COURT AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THE CIRCUIT COURT MAY WISH TO REMAND ANY PART OF CONSIDERATION TO THIS BOARD, WE WOULD CERTAINLY ABIDE BY THE COURT'S RULING ON THAT ISSUE.
WE THANK THE BOARD FOR YOUR TIME AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ANYTHING SO MR. YOU KNOW AS WE ARE YOU KNOW A BOARD THAT ALL WE DO IS SUPPLY RECOMMENDATIONS YOU KNOW THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AND ZONING DEFINITELY SUPERSEDES ANYTHING WE CAN DO. WE DO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS IN YOUR TIME OF STORMWATER IN YOUR PROPERTY AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION WE WILL TALK ABOUT INTERNALLY BUT BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUIT COURT THING WE CAN'T REALLY OPENLY DISCUSS AND TAKE ANY KIND OF VOTE OR ACTION. OKAY WOULD WOULD ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE YOU JUST BEFORE YOUR DISCUSSION OR WHAT. OH YEAH YEAH.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION I MEAN YOU'RE NOT HAVING AN OPEN DISCUSSION SORRY. WHAT ACTION ARE YOU TAKING OR. NO, NO NO WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE ANY ACTION. NOT ALLOWED AND NO DISCUSSION. OH NO WE'RE WE'RE DEFINITELY WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE OPEN DISCUSSION BETWEEN BOARD MEMBERS THIS BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUIT COURT GOING ON. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, INTERNALLY TO SEE YOU KNOW AND AS DECISIONS ARE MADE, YOU KNOW, BUT IN FRONT OF US TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE OPEN DISCUSSION AT A LATER DATE. OKAY BUT NO, WE ARE GOING TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO COME AFTER YOU TO DISCUSS IT? WE'RE IT'S OPEN AND WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN TO OKAY. I GUESS I WAS ALLOWED TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD TODAY. CORRECT. WHAT FOR? FOR WHAT PURPOSE? IF NOT FOR FOR IF NOT FOR AN APPEAL IF NOT FOR DISCUSSION NOT OPEN DISCUSSION. WHAT? WHY ARE WE WHY ARE WE HERE TODAY? IF THE POINT WAS TO HEAR YOUR APPEAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE FOLLOWING DUE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID HEAR YOUR APPEAL AND EVEN THOUGH THE BO THIS TIME THEY WILL ABSORB ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S GIVEN YOU TODAY AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF CIRCUIT COURT IF THEY TAKE THAT DECISION BACK TO THE BOARD AT THAT TIME THE BOARD WILL HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO PSC AND GO FORTH WITH THE PROCESS IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW SOMETHING
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IMPORTANT COMES OUT BUT WE DIDN'T WANT SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S GOING ON CIRCUIT COURT THAT WE TO HEAR YOUR APPEAL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF OUR DUE PROCESSES OF HEARING THE APPEAL GIVING THE BOARD ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S PRESENTED.SO IF THERE IS A TIME THAT THEY DO NEED TO MAKE A DECISION THEY WILL HAVE ALL ALL THE INFORMATION SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONCERN THE PART OF THE PROJECT AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION AT A LATER DATE. OKAY.
I I APPRECIATE BEING BEING HEARD. YEAH, THANK YOU.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON FROM D WE'RE GOING TO
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MOVE ON TO THE SECOND PART OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT. DOES ANYONE WANT TO START FIRST TAYLOR DO WE HAVE A NUMBER? GO AHEAD. IN THE ORDER THAT THEY WERE LIKE OKAY, WE STILL GOT YOUR LIST. ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE PUBLIC COMMENT MAKE SURE THAT YOU FIND IT FOR THE REST. YEAH.MY NAME IS BARRY CONNER. I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE 68 CALHOUN PLANTATION ROUTE PROJECT AND AM A RETIRED PRACTICING ENGINEER IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND I AM THE FATHER OF A VERY SMART PRACTICING ENGINEER . FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS MR. KIDD HAS DOUBLED DOWN AND TRIPLED DOWN ON THIS STATEMENT THAT THE STORMWATER PERMIT APPLICATION HANDLED CORRECTLY THAT IT CAME TO HILLARY AUSTIN HILLARY AUSTIN FORWARDED TO.
WELL IN ZIBO MEETING HE SAID HILLARY FORWARDED IT TO THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT AND THEY DID THE CALCULATIONS TODAY. HE SAID THAT IT WAS FORWARDED TO AN OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT AND THEY DID THE ENGINEERING CALCULATIONS AND EVERYTHING CAME BACK TO ZONING EXCUSE ME AND WAS APPROVED AND HILLARY SIGNED THE PERMIT. LET ME BE VERY CLEAR.
NONE OF THAT HAPPENED. NONE OF IT. WE HAVE GOT THE ENTIRE WE FOR YOU THE ENTIRE PUBLIC RECORD. IF THERE IS ANYTHING THE PUBLIC RECORD THAT SHOWS THAT BEFORE COUNTY ENGINEERING OR THE COUNTY'S OUTSIDE DRAINAGE CONSULTANT DID OF THOSE THINGS, THEN SOMEBODY IS HIDING THAT FROM US OUT OF A FOR YOU PUBLIC RECORD.
SO MY MY OPINION OUR OPINION IS THAT NEVER HAPPENED. THIS WAS HANDLED AS A KIND OF AN EXEMPT SINGLE FAMILY PROJECT TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATELY .
THE APPLICANT I'VE GOT THE STORMWATER APPLICATION HERE WHICH IS THE SWEAT TIER ONE APPLICATION FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S CLEAR ON THE APPLICATION THAT IT CAME FROM AN ENGINEER BY THE NAME OF BRIAN PENNELL WHO'S KEY ENGINEERING IS HIS COMPANY'S NAME AND HE WORKED FOR STEVE TILTON WHO'S THE CUSTOM HOME BUILDER THAT WAS BUILDING THE PROJECT FOR THE HOMEOWNER. SO WHAT HE'S HE'S MR. KIDD HAS SAID THIS OVER AND OVER.
IT IS INCORRECT. IT DID NOT HAPPEN. PLAIN AND SIMPLY DID NOT HAPPEN. IT WAS ALL OF THIS HANDLED INCORRECTLY.
IT'S AMAZING TO ME THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN HIGH PLACES IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT THAT CAN'T REALIZE THAT A SERIOUS ERROR WAS MADE IN THIS PROJECT. AND THERE ARE THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES TOO WITH ZONING GUIDELINES, ALL SORTS OF ISSUES ,ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT DON'T CONCERN YOU WHATSOEVER. BUT THE STORM DRAINAGE ISSUE IS IS A BIG ONE AND SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE INTERRUPTED THIS. WE EVER WENT TO ZEBO OR CAME HERE AND SAID HEY, WE MESS THIS UP. WE DO NOT FOLLOW OUR OWN STORMWATER DESIGN GUIDELINES AND WE NEED TO WITHDRAW, PERMIT AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX THIS PROCESS. BUT NO, NOBODY HAS STEPPED FOUR .
WE KEEP HEARING FROM THE I MEAN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT THE MAIN PRESENTER AT THE ZBA HERE I MEAN NOT HILLARY OF AUSTIN NOT ROB MERCHANT. IT WAS THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SO I MEAN WE KNEW WE WERE YOU KNOW, IN DEEP WHEN THAT HAPPENED.
BUT NO, NOBODY HAS STEPPED AND SAY SORRY, WE REALLY MESS THIS UP AND EXPLAIN TO THE LANDOWNER THAT THIS IS A SERIOUS ERROR. NOBODY'S DONE THAT AND ARE SPENDING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO ADVANCE THIS TO CIRCUIT COURT TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF .
THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN I. ONE ONE.
YES. YES. OKAY JUST ONE FINAL THING.
YOU SAID YOU GUYS WILL DISCUSS AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT AND I THINK YOU REALLY DO NEED TO DISCUSS THIS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON BETWEEN THE ZONING OFFICE AND STORMWATER
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BECAUSE THINGS ARE NOT BEING APPROPRIATELY IN THE RURAL AREAS FOR YOU KNOW LARGE MCMANSION HOUSES AND ACCESSORY . THE ZONING DEPARTMENT IS COMBINED COMBINING SINGLE FAMILY WITH AGRICULTURAL USES AND EXEMPTING STORMWATER DESIGN LIKE THEY DID ON THIS PROJECT STORMWATER BECAUSE OF AN AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTION.IT'S A MESS AND I REALLY DO HOPE YOU GUYS WILL TALK ABOUT IT FOR TAYLOR ABOUT IT AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX THIS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT ZONING.
YES, SIR. THANK YOU. NEXT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
YES, MA'AM. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS HELGA LILLY.
I LIVE AT 73 HARRISON ISLAND ROAD WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE MARSH FROM 68 PLANTATION CALHOUN PLANTATION ROAD. I'M A STORMWATER EXPERT LIKE SAM O'CONNOR BUT I DO HAVE A DEGREE IN ARCHITECTURE AND I HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF THE ISSUES INVOLVED.
AS EVERYONE HERE IS WELL AWARE. OUR LOWCOUNTRY MARSHES ARE A CRITICAL AND FRAGILE ECOSYSTEM DISTURBING THAT ECOSYSTEM THROUGH EXCESSIVE DEVELOPER CAN CAUSE LASTING AND IRREPARABLE HARM. I REVIEWED THE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DRAWINGS BY ATLAS SURVEYING FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ITS POTENTIAL IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION BORDERS DIRECTLY ON THE MARSHES OF THE CULLITON RIVER. THE LAND SLOPES NATURALLY TO THE MARSH SO OF COURSE RUNOFF FROM THE PROPERTY DRAINS TO THE MARSH.
THE NEW DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES ACCOMMODATION UP TO EIGHT HORSES AS WELL AS ALMOST 27 EXCUSE ME 27% OF THE PROPERTY TO BE COVERED IN IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.
THAT COMBINATION SEEMS TO ME TO BE A RECIPE FOR DISASTER. MUCH OF THE WASTE WILL INEVITABLY DRAIN TO THE MARSH THEREBY CONTAMINATING AND POLLUTING NOT ONLY THE IMMEDIATE AREA BUT AREAS AS WELL. THE EFFECTS WOULD REACH WELL BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD. I BELIEVE THAT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT INAPPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION AND I'M ADDING MY VOICE TO THOSE REQUESTING THAT IT NOT BE ALLOWED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME. RIGHT NEXT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, YASMIN, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A COMMENT. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. IF THE COUNTY AND THE STATE HAVE LAWS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS THAT ARE TO BE ENFORCED, WHY ARE WE EVEN TO HAVE THESE DEBATES? IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO SEE THAT THINGS ARE LEGAL. SO I JUST. DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN ANSWER? NEW MAN IS THERE SOMEWHERE I CAN GET ONE. NO.
I MEAN WE'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY QUESTION AND IT AFFECTS US TOO BUT IT JUST SEEMS THIS IS SO POINTLESS TO HAVE TO EVEN SPEND THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING TO HAVE A LAW THAT'S ON THE BOOKS ENFORCED AND THERE'S SEVERAL THAT ARE NOT BEING ENFORCED.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. BUT MAYBE Y'ALL CAN FIGURE OUT SOMEBODY TO ASK.
YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
NEXT SO. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JESSE WHITE.
I WITH THE CRYSTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE AND I DO HAVE WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT I'M GOING TO READ BUT SLIGHTLY ADDRESSED HERE AND HAND OUT TO YOU ALL. THAT'S OKAY.
HERE. THANK YOU. SO WE ARE WE TO OUR CONCERNED ABOUT THE STORMWATER APPROVAL AT 68 CALHOUN PLANTATION ROAD IN PARTICULAR.
BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS SOME OF THE BEST AND STRONGEST STORMWATER STORMWATER STANDARDS IN THE STATE WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE SOUTHERN LOWCOUNTRY ORDINANCE AND DESIGN MANUAL WHICH I WILL
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BE REFERRING TO AS SILICO STANDARDS AND HAS RIGHTFULLY RECEIVED NUMEROUS AWARDS FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE REQUIREMENTS. THEY'RE MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL REGIONAL STANDARDS THAT ARE INFORMED BY SCIENTIFIC DATA AND STUDY WITHIN OUR LOCAL WATERSHEDS IN ORDER TO PROTECT AND IMPROVE WATER QUALITY IN THE FACE OF THE RAMPANT DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING BY REQUIRING FOR EXAMPLE, BP'S AND BETTER SITE DESIGN PRACTICES THAT UTILIZE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND BETTER MIMIC OUR NATURAL PROCESSES AND MORE EFFECTIVELY MANAGE AND HANDLE STORMWATER. THE SILICA STANDARDS ARE SUPPOSED TO APPLY TO ALL NEW AND ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT INVOLVING 5000 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE OR ONE ACRE OR MORE OF LAND DISTURBANCE.THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT 68 CALHOUN INVOLVES APPROXIMATELY 2.5 ACRES OF LAND DISTURBANCE ON A 3.49 ACRE PARCEL WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT STABLE ARENA AREA FOR 6 TO 8 HORSES IN ADDITION TO A RESIDENCE AND OTHER STRUCTURES RESULTING IN APPROXIMATELY 39,000 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND THE PROJECT WASN'T REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY STORMWATER IN ACCORDANCE WITH SILICA STANDARDS. WE UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE A IN THE STAFF REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT ON INDIVIDUAL SINGLE FAMILY LOTS VERSUS MULTI PARCEL OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND IN A LOT OF WAYS IT DOES MAKE FOR THE THERE TO BE DIFFERENCES. OUR CONCERNS ARE ABOUT THE LACK OF CONSISTENCY AND THE CUMULATIVE EFFECTS OF NUMEROUS POTENTIALLY DISJOINTED INDIVIDUAL STORMWATER APPROVALS THAT ARE GIVEN TO SINGLE FAMILY LOTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ESPECIALLY A COUNTY LIKE OURS THAT IS OVER 50% WATER. ALL PROJECTS SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH SO LOCAL WHERE WHEN APPLICABLE IF THE THRESHOLD IS TRIGGERED AS IT CLEARLY WAS IN THIS CASE GIVEN THE SCALE AND THE MAGNITUDE OF THE THE LAND DISTURBANCE INVOLVED THEN SILICA SHOULD BE APPLIED. AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THIS PROJECT IS FAR FROM A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT SO IT'S REASONABLE AND LOGICAL AND FRANKLY SHOULD BE EXPECTED THAT HIGHER STANDARDS SHOULD BE APPLIED HERE. THE CARLTON RIVER IS AN OUTSTANDING RESOURCE WATER. THIS HIGHEST CLASSIFICATION IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE STATE FOUR WATERS OF EXCEPTIONAL RECREATIONAL ECOLOGICAL IMPORTANCE OR UNUSUAL VALUE.
ALL OF THIS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RESULTS IN SIGNIFICANT LAND DISTURBANCE AND SIGNIFICANT THANK YOU SIGNIFICANT STORMWATER RUNOFF INTO RIVER AND SURROUNDING MARSH THAT IS SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN OUTSTANDING RESOURCE WATER COMPOUNDED THESE FACTS IS THE REALITY OF THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE AND THE UPKEEP OF A SIX HORSE STABLE AN OLYMPIC SIZED ARENA AND, THE CORRESPONDING POLLUTANT LOAD THAT WILL RESULT FROM THOSE USES. THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF THE PROPOSED ACTIVITY AT 68 CALHOUN SIMPLY SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO EVADE THE SILICA STANDARD. IT'S CLEARLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE LETTER OF THE LAW WILL ESTABLISH A DANGEROUSLY HARMFUL PRECEDENT IF IT'S ALLOWED TO STAND. UNDERSTANDING A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT YOUR AUTHORITY AS A BOARD WE DO HOPE THAT YOU ULTIMATELY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS THE PROPOSED PROJECT AT 68 CALHOUN SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE SILICOSIS CANDIDATES AND ENSURE THAT IT IS REVIEWED ACCORDINGLY. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, SIR. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? HI.
MY NAME IS PRISCILLA COLEMAN. I OWN THE PORTION OF CALHOUN PLANTATION ROAD THAT'S AT THE ROADSIDE DITCH AND PROPERTY ADJOINING THE FRONT OF THE PROPOSED BURIAL CRUSTY AND COMPOUND PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY I OWN IS ALSO PART OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT HELD BY THE OPEN LAND TRUST. I'M OPPOSED TO THE CURRENT STORMWATER PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY. THE CURRENT PROJECT IS APPROVED FOR 6 TO 8 HORSES AND EXCUSE ME APPROVED FOR SIX BUT HAS CAPACITY FOR EIGHT. IT ALSO INCLUDES AN OLYMPIC SIZE EQUESTRIAN ARENA STABLES, RESIDENCE MACHINERY HARDSCAPE AND ALL OF WHICH TOTAL OVER 39,000 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACES. I'M CONCERNED THAT THE RUNOFF FROM THESE SURFACES AND EQUESTRIAN FACILITIES AND PADDOCKS WILL HARM THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT BY EROSION TO PROPERTY AND CONTAMINATING MY PROPERTY.
MY MOST GRAVE CONCERN HOWEVER IS THE DEGRADATION THAT WILL BE CAUSED TO THE CARLTON RIVER
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WHICH IS CLASSIFIED AS AN OUTSTANDING WATER RESOURCE WATER.MY GRANDCHILDREN, MY GREAT NIECES AND NEPHEWS AND OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS PLAY ON THE BEACH AREA NEXT TO THE PROPOSED COMPOUND. FAMILY MEMBERS, NEIGHBORS AND MANY BEAUFORT RESIDENTS SHRIMP THEY FISH THEY CRAB IN THESE. THEY SWIM IN THESE WATERS.
THEY RECREATE IN THESE WATERS. IT'S ALSO AN AREA FOR A COMMERCIAL OYSTER COW AND PLANTATION ROAD IS PRIVATELY OWNED. IT'S A PRIVATELY OWNED DIRT ROAD SLASH DRIVEWAY. I BOTH SIDES THE PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD THAT INCLUDES EXCUSE ME THE DRAINAGE DITCH AND PART OF THE PROPERTY WHICH IS JOINED THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE OWNER OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT HAVE MY PERMISSION TO DISCHARGE RUNOFF ONTO MY PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO MY PROPERTY RUNOFF WILL SHIRLEY FLOW ONTO MY PROPERTY INTO THE ROADSIDE DITCH THOSE ON MY PROPERTY.
THIS INCLUDES NOT JUST RUNOFF THAT WILL INTO MY DITCH BUT LIKELY INCLUDES SEEPAGE FROM DRAIN FROM THE DRAIN FIELD AND HORSE PADDOCK ON TOP OF THE DRAIN FIELD THE DISTANCE FROM THE DRAIN FIELD TO THE JUST TO THE DITCH IS APPROXIMATELY 7 TO 8 FEET AND NOT THE REQUIRED 25 FOOT SETBACK THAT'S REQUIRED FOR A. EXCUSE ME FOR A DRAIN FIELD TO A DRAINAGE DITCH DRAINAGE FROM THIS DITCH THEN FLOWS INTO ANOTHER DITCH THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE AND ULTIMATELY INTO THE TIDAL CREEK OF COURSE AND RIVER.
I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE ON THIS RATHER THAN REACTIVE AND WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN AND WAITING OUR RIVERS AND ENVIRONMENT TO BE DESTROYED.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS AL STOKES.
I LIVE ON SAWMILL CREEK ROAD JUST DOWN THE CALLED RIVER. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN STORMWATER ISSUES AND MARINE RESEARCH FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE IMPACTS OF STORMWATER. ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THE COUNTY GETS FOUR FEET OF RAINWATER A YEAR. THAT'S 1.3 MILLION GALLONS AN ACRE AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT CHANNELING THAT GOES OUT INTO THE MARSH FROM POINT SOURCE DISCHARGE IT WILL CHANGE MARINE VEGETATION AND CAN HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MARINE WILDLIFE.
SO I HOPE YOU CONSIDER ALL OF THIS. THANK YOU.
THANKS FOR STAYING. ANYBODY ELSE TRY TO BEAT THE TIMER HERE? LIKE A COMPETITION. AND LAWRENCE COLEMAN HAPPILY MARRIED TO POSTPONE THEIR ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE ALSO THAT SHE FAILED TO MENTION IS THAT SHE AND I RUN A COMMERCIAL FARM RIGHT ACROSS THE WELL ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN QUESTION BEING DEVELOPED.
BUT I WAS GOING TO KIND OF GET JUST SOME OF THAT LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE BASIC FACTS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO PREVENT THE MANURE FROM UP TO SIX OR MAYBE AN EIGHT HORSES FROM ENTERING AND TO THE CARLTON RIVER AND AND WHY WE WANT TO PREVENT THAT. OBVIOUSLY NOBODY WANTS TO SWIM WITH MUCH HORSE MANURE SO THAT'S I COULD PROBABLY JUST SAY THAT AND STEP DOWN BUT I DO WANT TO MENTION ABOUT THE NUTRIENT QUANTITY AND THE MANURE WE'RE PROBABLY AWARE OF AND I'M GOING TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I WANT TO MISPRONOUNCE IT AS A TERRIFIC NATION WHICH IS OF COURSE THE WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, DOWNSTREAM OF A LOT OF AGRICULTURAL AREAS ,PLACES WHERE YOU DO HAVE RUNOFF OF THESE NUTRIENTS THAT ARE IN THE MANURE. AND SO I DECIDED I'D LOOK AT THE NITROGEN CONTENT AND I'VE GOT THE PHOSPHORUS TO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO REALLY JUMP INTO THE WITH ME HERE BUT THE NITROGEN CONTENT COULD BE PRODUCED BY SIX HORSES AND SO #1,000 HORSE PRODUCES ABOUT #51 OF MANURE A DAY. SO THAT WOULD BE 9.3 TONS OF MANURE IN A YEAR. AND THEN IF WE MULTIPLY THAT 9.3 TIMES SIX BECAUSE HAS THE CAPACITY ACTUALLY HAS THE CAPACITY FOR EIGHT HORSES BUT I THINK IT'S CERTIFIED FOR SIX SO 9.3 TIMES SIX SO THAT'D BE 55 TONS OF MANURE A YEAR FROM THESE HORSES THAT ARE HAVE TO
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BE SOMEHOW CONTAINED IN THIS PROPERTY THAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD HOW MUCH IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND EVERYTHING THERE IS AROUND IT AND WITH ONE WHOLE AREA OF IT DOWN BEING IN THE COLLEGE RIVER AND SO LOOKING AT THE NITROGEN THAT WOULD BE IN THAT THAT MANURE AND THAT THAT QUANTITY OF MANURE THERE'S ABOUT #19 OF NITROGEN PER TON OF MANURE.THIS IS AN AVERAGE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE HORSES ARE FED AND I DIDN'T GO HIGH.
I DIDN'T GO LOW. I'M RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE AND.
SO LET'S SAY THAT WOULD BE 55 TONS WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED WOULD BE THE SIX HORSES PRODUCTION OF MANURE IN A YEAR TIMES THIS 19 SO THAT'S #1,045 OF NITROGEN A YEAR THAT COULD BE PRODUCED BY THESE HORSES AND THAT'S IT TO PUT IT INTO ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE, IF WE THINK ABOUT A #50 BAG OF TEN YOU KNOW 1010 WHATEVER FERTILIZER, THIS WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF 210 BAGS OF THAT FERTILIZER THAT WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IS THAT ALL THIS FILL IN THE BLANK GOING TO GO SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. KNOW I MEAN FOR ME RIGHT ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? HI, MY NAME IS CARMEN AVON MANNING AND I'M A RETIRED CIVIL AND I HAVE ABOUT 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND I ACTUALLY HAD A CERTIFIED SWIMS OTHER JURISDICTIONS I'VE ONLY REVIEWED THE GRADING PLAN FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BUT A 5000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, A POOL, A STABLE, AN ARENA EQUIPMENT SHED, A SEPTIC FIELD AND THE POTENTIAL FOR A HORSES ON THREE AND A HALF ACRES. I'M VERY PRAGMATIC ENGINEER SEEMS A BIT MUCH. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY HAS THE SLOGAN AND I APPLAUD MR. DAWSON PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GET OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO REVIEW.
I HAVE SEVERAL FIRST THAT ORDINANCE WAS ONLY ENACTED IN 2020 AFTER MUCH OF THE DEVELOPMENT ALREADY OCCURRED SO A LOT OF DAMAGE WAS ALREADY DONE.
SECOND, AFTER FOUR YEARS, DOCUMENTS AT LEAST ONLINE ARE STILL ABLE DRAFT AND CHAPTER SIX MY FAVORITE AS ONE SENTENCE ACTION OR INACTIONS MAY BE SUBJECT TO ENFORCEMENT AND THIRD I HAVE PERSONALLY QUITE FRANKLY I'M TIRED OF LOOKING AT IT SOIL 20 FEET HIGH WITH NO TEMPORARY STABILIZATION WHERE I CAME FROM 72 HOURS YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT COVERED OR ESTABLISH VEGETATION. I HAVE ALSO BEEN SUBJECT THAT YOU HAVE TO BE INSPECTING THINGS BEFORE AND AFTER A STORM AND THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON WHY WE SEE ANY BULGING SEDIMENT PILES OR THE GENTLEMAN IN THE BACK WHO SAID HE HAS TO CLEAN OUT SEDIMENT IF IT WAS WORKING HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO CLEAN OUT THE SEDIMENT FOR. AFTER CLOSING SAILFISH HARVESTING IN THE MAE RIVER IN 2009 AND HAVING A TIME DEAL FOR THE OKATIE RIVER THE LATEST SAMPLING AFTER ALL YOUR ACTIVITIES WHERE WAS BAD IT'S WORSE AND WHERE IT WAS SUB CLOSE TO CLEAN IS NOW GETTING CLOSE TO BEING CLOSED. SO I ASK YOU ARE ALL THE ACTIVITIES EFFECTIVE I THINK A REASONABLE PERSON WOULD SAY NO MORE CONTROLS ARE NEEDED.
LASTLY THAT AGAIN 43 PAGES I JUST READ THIS MORNING ON YOUR WEBSITE ABOUT ALL THE ACTIVITIES YOU'RE DOING SOMEBODY HAS TO ASK THE QUESTION ARE THEY WORKING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME LIKE THEY'RE WORKING. AND LASTLY I KNOW THEY ALWAYS TELL ME CARMEN, YOU'RE AT THIS PLACE IS PROPERTY RIGHTS IT'S PROPERTY RIGHTS STATE WELL YOU KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE HERE ON THE MAE RIVER AND THE OKATIE AND THE CARLTON AND ALL THE REST OKAY AND YOUR RUNOFF DRAINING ON OUR PROPERTY IS A PROBLEM ON OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS.
SO I ASK YOU TO REVIEW THE LOCAL MANUAL NUMBER ONE AND TWO IF I MAY I'M REAL SUPPORTER OF ALL OUR FIRST RESPONDERS EVEN IN MY OLD AGE AND WEAKNESS I STILL DO THE TUNNELS TO TOWER UP IN NEW YORK CITY TO SUPPORT ALL THOSE PEOPLE. BUT LET ME TELL YOU AFTER 35 YEARS IN THE INDUSTRY YOU REALLY NEED TO HAVE DAY INSTEAD OF ALL THIS PUBLIC
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PARTICIPATION THAT YOU'RE DOING HAVE A DAY TO SHOW THE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WHAT THOSE OPERATORS ARE DOING, THE WASTEWATER OPERATORS AND THE UTILITY ARE DOING BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? WE REALLY NEED TO APPLAUD THEM BECAUSE THEY DO A JOB BECAUSE IF THEY WEREN'T DOING A GREAT JOB WHEN YOU GO FLUSH THE TOILET EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW WHO THEY ARE. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT? GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS HOWARD MERRITT. I'M ONE OF THE SENIOR I THINK EVERYBODY SAID JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID OR MADE MAYBE A FEW MORE THINGS BUT I KNOW BACK IN THE SEVENTIES THEY HAD A THEY HAD A STUDY ON PUTTING A FACTORY IN VICTORIA WHICH IS RIGHT DOWN THE RIVER FROM US. THEY WENT THROUGH AND THEY PUT DYE INTO THE RIVER AND THE DYE DID NOT GO ANYWHERE. IT STAYED RIGHT THERE.IT WENT INTO IT WENT INTO THE LAND NOT OUT. SO YOU HAVE WHEN YOU HAVE THIS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO CALL HORSE? THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO ANOTHER. THING TOO IS IF YOU HAD A TOP TOPOGRAPHICAL MAP OF THIS AREA WHERE THIS LADY WANTS TO PUT HER HORSES YOU GOT A ROUND YOU GOT A ROUND TOP RIGHT UP IN AND THEN DRAINS RIGHT OFF. SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS GOING TO DRAIN RIGHT OFF NOW AND THEN IF YOU WALK DOWN THERE IS MUCH YOU KNOW IT DIDN'T MATTER IF IT WAS RAINING THE WHOLE BUNCH HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF WHATEVER TYPE COMES IN IT GETS MUDDY THROUGH MY BROTHER'S PLACE RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT MY HOUSE IN RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU FIRST COME IN ON THE RIGHT SO ANYWAY ANOTHER THING IS THIS IS RIGHT ABOUT I THINK IT'S BACK IN THE EIGHTIES SOMETIME LIKE THAT I HAD A COUSIN HAD A DAIRY AND WE WE TO BE DAIRY FARMERS THING BUT THEY SHUT HIM DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS TOO MUCH OF HIS THE COW THE COWS STUFF ANYWAY IT WAS GOING INTO THE RIVER THEY SHUT HIM DOWN BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH POLLUTION CONTROL ON THE ON THE COWS I'VE NEVER THERE ARE TWO MORE FARMERS THERE IN THE COUNTY THOMAS HILLMAN AND JOHN BENTLEY THEY HAD PIGS AND THEY GOT SHUT DOWN ALSO.
THIS IS A WHILE BEFORE THAT BECAUSE FARMER WAS A BIG BACK YOU KNOW.
SO ANYWAY SO THAT'S THE CASE. I MEAN I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THESE HORSES THEY GOT TOO MANY HORSES ON THE AMOUNT OF LAND THEY GOT THE LAND HAVE HALF OF IT IS JUST MUSH SO I DON'T SENSE IN IT YOU KNOW YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO BRING DIRT IN, TRY TO FILL IT IN BUT IT STILL WON'T BE THE SAME THING. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. YOU WANT ADDITIONAL INCOME RIGHT? SORRY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INFORMATION AND CONCERN DURING THAT PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE IT FOR LATER. USE.
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ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON IN THE BIT ON NEXT MEANING AGENDA WHICH WILL BE SENT THERE PACKET FOR APRIL 16, 2025 WILL HAVE A MOTION SAYING I THINK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR WRITE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT MOTION ALL RIGHT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ALL RIGHT MEETING ADJOURN RIGHT 330* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.