Feb 12, 2025 Joint Meeting of The Hilton Head Island Town Council and Beaufort County Council

[6. REVIEW OF SCDOT PROPOSALS RECEIVED ON JANUARY 30, 2025]

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BRIEFLY FOR ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY MEMBERS OF THE HILTON HEAD COUNCIL OR COUNTY COUNCIL.

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GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT OPTION ONE WHICH IS ONE OF THOSE WITHIN THE FUNDS AVAILABLE.

AND AND YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT THE WIDTH OF THAT BRIDGE AND HAS NCDOT LOOKED THE POSSIBILITY OF WITHIN THAT NEW BRIDGE OF HAVING A PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE AREA THAT WOULD BE SEPARATED FROM THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. AND IF SO IF NOT DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF ADDITIONAL COST IF THERE IS ANY TO THAT THE ADDITIONAL COSTS NOT BE SIGNIFICANT TO DO THAT. BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO BASICALLY IN THE FUTURE IF IT NEEDED TO BE WIDENED TO THIRD LANE YOU COULD REMOVE A BARRIER WALL SO YOU HAD TO BUILD A BARRIER WALL . THERE WOULD BE POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL WITH WITH THE BRIDGE WOULD HAVE TO BE WIDER. SO THAT WOULD ADD SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS AS WELL BECAUSE YOU'D STILL WANT YOU KNOW YOUR PATHWAY WOULD BE 14 FOOT PLUS THE WALL AND YOU HAVE THE TEMPORARY SHOULDER SO YOU WOULD HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL WIDTH IN THERE AS WELL BUT YOU HAVEN'T DONE A COST ESTIMATE ON DOING IT THAT WAY. YOU HAVE NOT DONE THAT.

ALL RIGHT. BUT I BELIEVE WHEN YOU APPEARED BEFORE THE COUNTY COUNCIL A OR SO AGO I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK TIME FLIES WHEN YOU'RE HAVING SO MUCH FUN.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY A DESIGN BUILD AND INCLUDING IF YOU WOULD IN THAT BUILD THE SOLICITATION FOR BIDS AD ALTERNATE TO LOOK AT A BIKE PED FACILITY WITHIN THAT NEW STRUCTURE. IS THAT TRUE? COULD YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, WE COULD LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU'D HAVE YOUR BASE AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT LIKE THIS IS THE MAXIMUM AVAILABLE BUDGET AND THEN HAVE ADD ONS LIKE IF YOU CAN DO IT FOR UNDER THIS WE WANT TO ADD THIS AND ETC. THAT THAT CAN BE DONE AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE PORTION OF THE EASTBOUND THAT CONNECTS FROM HOG ISLAND TO PINCKNEY PLACE THAT WOULD BE IN PLACE, CORRECT? YES. YEAH.

AND HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF BECAUSE IT WOULD BE MORE OF A LOCAL ROAD INCLUDING A BIKE OR PEDESTRIAN FACILITY ON THAT OLD PORTION OF THE EASTBOUND BRIDGE AND WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET TO DISCUSS IT SOMEWHAT THAT WILL BE DEPENDENT ON HOW WE PROVIDE ACCESS TO BRIDGE WHETHER IT WOULD BE A VIABLE OPTION OR NOT.

THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION ANOTHER AN ALTERNATE IF YOU WILL IN THE BID DOCUMENTS TRY TO INCLUDE IT THERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO ON.

IS THAT YOUR LAST ONE LAST QUESTION ON THE THE THE JENKINS ISLAND OR THE HOG ISLAND CONNECTION THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE COST OF THE NEARLY 258 MILLION FOR OPTION ONE, IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. YEAH, THAT IS INCLUDED IN ALL THE OPTIONS. THANK YOU, MA'AM. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO REVIEW OF THE FUNDING AND ARE THERE ANY OTHER

[7. REVIEW OF FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT]

SO AND I THINK PUTTING IT UP ON THE SCREEN THE BEST WAY TO REPRESENT THIS IS IN THE AGENDA PACKET IS THE JOINT RESOLUTION AND SO IN THE BEGINNING OF THE JOINT RESOLUTION PROPOSED JOINT RESOLUTION IS THE SECOND WHEREAS CLAUSE AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND IF YOU CAN SCROLL UP IF YOU CAN SCROLL UP ON THE FIRST PAGE RIGHT THERE AND ZOOM IN TO THAT SECOND WHEREAS THANK YOU. SO OVERALL AS THIS STATES THERE'S 298,000,008 $850,000 DEDICATED TO THE PROJECT AS IT STANDS TODAY OF THE 101 IS FROM THE COUNTY SO THAT'S 80 FROM SALES TAX AND 21 FROM IMPACT FEES. THERE'S 3.35 MILLION IN RIGHT AWAY DONATIONS FROM THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD. SO THAT IS NOT CASH BUT THAT WOULD BE AS A PROJECT COSTS WE HAVE TO PURCHASE RIGHT AWAY SO THAT WOULD BE A DONATED COST TO THE PROJECT FROM THE TOWN ON TOWN OWN PROPERTY THEN DOT HAS $74.5 MILLION UH PLEDGED TO THE PROJECT AND THEN THE STILL STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK HAS THE 120 SO WHEN YOU ADD ALL THOSE UP TOGETHER THAT IS MONEY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO DATE FOR WHATEVER PROJECT IS DEFINED IN SCOPE 298,850,000. SECONDLY, IF YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE SECOND PAGE OF THE SAME DOCUMENT UNDER THE FUNDING SURFACE IF YOU ZOOM IN THERE TO THE 298 SO THIS IS THE THAT SENATOR DAVIS REFERENCED IN HIS LETTER. UH, AND WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO ILLUSTRATE IS EXACTLY HOW MUCH CASH DO WE HAVE AS WELL AS CONSIDERING WHAT HAS BEEN EXPENDED SO WHEN YOU TAKE OUT THE 3.35 MILLION OF RIGHT AWAY DONATIONS THAT'S NOT CASH THIS

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SO WHEN YOU ADD ALL AND SUBTRACT THE 13 MILLION THE AMOUNT OF CASH AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT TO DATE IS THE 298,000,000.53 TOWARDS THE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S A SUMMATION OF OF WHAT WE HAVE WHAT WE SPENT AND EXACTLY CASH ON HAND AVAILABLE . I WANTED TO LET EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE KNOW THAT SENATOR TOM DAVIS IS ON BY ZOOM TO HEY HEY SENATOR DAVIS, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS AT THIS OR QUESTIONS FOR ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING D.O.T. FUNDING FUNDING CONDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE MET WITH INTERGOVERNMENTAL I'M HERE AS A RESOURCE. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FUNDING IF I MIGHT.

YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME MEETINGS WITH THE D.O.T. AND Y'ALL AND WE SAYING TODAY THAT WE HAVE $298.5 MILLION WHEN WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT WE HAVE $298.5 MILLION DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SURVEY MAY TO DO. AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A FACTOR IN OUR DECISION MAKING BECAUSE THAT PUTS US IF THERE IS ANY REDUCTION THE SURVEY THAT PUTS US RIGHT BACK INTO WHERE WE WERE IN JUNE TRYING TO PROPOSE A PROJECT TO APPROVE A PROJECT WITHOUT ALL THE FUNDING IN PLACE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT SO THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT THE CIB MAY OR MAY NOT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT PULL FUNDING THEY DID PULL FOR $420 MILLION FROM CHARLESTON IN IN IN A ONE MEETING. SO THE THREAT OF THAT IS REAL AND I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE THE STATEMENT HERE NOW THAT FOR ME OPTION ONE IS THE BEST OPTION FOR US TO GO WITH. IT PUTS US IT ADDRESSES THE EMERGENT NEED OF WHAT IS WE'RE FACING. IT ADDRESSES THE POTENTIAL LACK OF FUNDING AND COST OVERRUNS THAT MAY BE THERE. SO I JUST WANT WANTED TO BE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS WHAT ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT WE KNOW TWO THINGS WE KNOW WELL OKAY THREE THINGS ONE WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE BRIDGE.

TWO, THERE IS A SOME THAT IS THERE THAT MAY BE REDUCED AND THEN WE KNOW THAT THERE IS FUNDING CURRENTLY FROM CDOT AND THE COUNTY. SO OKAY AND MAYOR TO ADD TO THAT UM THAT MONEY IS THERE TODAY AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO SPEAK TO A PLAN TO KEEP THAT MONEY THERE AND IF IF CIB DOES PULL IF THEY REACT TO A PLAN THAT'S PROPOSED BY TOWN AND COUNTY AND THEY DO WITHDRAW FUNDS THEN IT WOULD NEED TO COME BACK TO TOWN AND COUNTY TO REACT BECAUSE IF THEY POOL ANY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDS THEN ALL OF THE OPTIONS INCLUDING OPTION ONE ARE UNFUNDED EXCEPT OPTION SIX WHICH IS THE SIMPLE REPLACEMENT THROUGH DFT. SO THAT'S THE COUNTERACTION IF THAT WAS TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THE LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINE TO GET THAT RESOLUTION DONE.

WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE RESOLUTION EVERYONE HAS THE THE DRAFT OF IT.

MR. MOORE YES, MADAM CHAIR. WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO TO LOOK AT THIS OBVIOUSLY WE CANNOT TAKE A VOTE TONIGHT BUT.

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I THINK WE COULD GO STRAIGHT. WE DISCUSSED THIS WITH BRIAN AS WELL AND GIVEN THAT IT'S REALLY NOT AN ADDITIONAL COMMITMENT TO FUNDING, IT'S SIMPLY STATING THAT THIS IS HOW THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN WOULD INTEND TO USE THIS FUNDING AND THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD SCHEDULED FOR VOTING ON THE RESOLUTION WOULD BE IT. SO MY GOAL IS THAT WE WILL ENOUGH CONVERSATION TONIGHT TO ADDRESS THOSE ITEMS WITHIN THE RESOLUTION THAT WE WOULD NOT NEED TO COME BACK AND HAVE A FULL WORKSHOP WE COULD BRING IT UP TO A NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND HAVE A VOTE ON THAT. I DO WANT TO SEE THIS RESOLUTION MOVE FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND IN CORRECTLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE 31ST I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT DONE REALLY THE FIRST WEEK IN MARCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I WAS JUST GOING TO REITERATE THAT DEADLINE. WE WE IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH D.O.T. WE'VE BEEN GIVEN A DEADLINE AND THE SLIP OF THE 31ST OF MARCH SO IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SECRETARY OF D.O.T. STATED A RESOLUTION FROM BOTH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY WOULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD TAKE TO THE TO THE CIP AS A NEGOTIATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU READY TO TALK ABOUT THE RESOLUTION AND THIS ONE QUESTION BUT WHAT WOULD BE A REASON FOR THEM TO PULL FUNDING? WOULD IT BE A TIMELINE THING OR PROJECT ITSELF? WELL, SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACTUAL AND A CONTRACT THAT SAYS WE'RE OUT OF TIME, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR FUNDING SO THAT ALONE IS THEIR REASONING. THEY DON'T NEED ANY MORE REASONING THAN THAT TO PULL FUNDING. THEY COULD PULL ALL OR ANY BASED OFF OF THAT.

WHAT THEY'VE BEEN LENIENT SO FAR IS TO ALLOW US THE TIME AND OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THAT PLAN. FIRST IT WAS SALES TAX AND, NOW IT'S WITHOUT SALES TAX AND SO IT'S THEIR REACTION TO OUR PROPOSED WHETHER THEY KEEP RETAINING THE FUNDING OR POOL SOME MEASURE OF FUNDING OR PULL ALL OF THE FUNDING. THE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HE INTO THE RESOLUTION. YES, MA'AM. SO WITH REGARD TO FUNDING ON THE REVISED PROJECT SCOPE UNDER ELEMENTS THERE IS $3.5 MILLION FOR STONEY COMMUNITY SAFETY PROJECT AND. EVERYTHING THAT'S WITHIN THESE ELEMENTS SHOULD BE DISPLAYED ON EXHIBIT A BUT I'M MISSING PIECE HERE SOMEWHERE. YEAH AND I'M GOING TO ASK MR. MOORE TO COME TALK THROUGH THE SPECIFICS OF THE I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE JOINT RESOLUTION SET FORTH AND THEN THE BETTER PREPARED ANSWER THAT QUESTION. YEAH. THANK YOU, SIR.

JUST ONE QUESTION AS FAR AS THE FUNDING IS CONCERNED, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, NCDOT HAS THAT THEY HAVE CONTINGENCY BUILT IN TO THEIR PROJECTED COSTS, IS THAT CORRECT?

[8. DISCUSSION OF JOINT RESOLUTION]

WELL, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DISCUSSION OF THE RESOLUTION, MR. MOORE AND IF WE COULD HOLD QUESTIONS TILL HE GOES THROUGH IT. ABSOLUTELY.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR. MR. MAYOR, COUNTY COUNCIL TOWN COUNCIL.

IT'S GREAT TO BE WITH YOU HERE TONIGHT. UM, WE HAVE WORKED AS STAFF BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH DOTTIE AND THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD TO ESSENTIALLY PLACE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S RELEVANT INTO, THE RESOLUTION. OBVIOUSLY THERE CAN BE MODIFICATIONS THIS DEPENDING ON WHERE COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT GO BUT ESSENTIALLY THIS IS A STATING OPTION ONE UM NOT EXPLICITLY BUT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY OPTION ONE.

SO THE RESOLUTION TALKS ABOUT PROPOSED PROJECT THE AVAILABLE FUNDING WITH A BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THOSE FUNDING SOURCES ARE IN THE SECOND LINE AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED DOTTIE AN UPDATED PROJECT COST WHICH INCREASED THE TOTAL PROJECT COST FROM 305 TO 488. THAT WAS THE PROJECT FOR BOTH SPANS AND A COMPLETE PROJECT.

UM AND WE LOOKED AT THIS THIS WAS REFLECTED ON A QUARTERLY REPORT WHEREBY THE CIB AT THAT TIME UM PROPOSED COST SHARING ARRANGEMENT TO COVER 190 MILLION SHORTFALL.

THIS IS GOING BACK PREVIOUSLY LAST YEAR AND A FOLLOW UP WHERE THE COUNTY FORMALLY REQUESTED 90 MILLION FROM THE CIP TO MATCH THE 90 MILLION CONTRIBUTION FROM THE COUNTY CONTINGENT UPON VOTER APPROVAL OF A PROPOSED TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX REFERENDUM IN

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WE DISCUSSED THE LETTER AND AT THAT TIME COUNCIL'S VOTE WAS TO NOT PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO THE PROJECT AND THEN WE RECEIVED A FOLLOW UP LETTER FROM DOTTIE REITERATING THE DETERIORATING CONDITION OF THE EASTBOUND BRIDGE WHICH HAD BEEN A FOUR OUT OF TEN EMPHASIZING DECISION. A VIABLE PROJECT MUST BE MADE BY MARCH 31ST 2025 PROCEED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION BY 2027. SO OBVIOUSLY D.O.T. IS PRESENTING TO US THE THAT WE WILL FACE WITH THE BRIDGE SHOULD WE NOT ADDRESS THE TO THE CONDITION NOVEMBER THE CIP MEETING EXTENSION WAS GRANTED TO THE COUNTY UNTIL MARCH 31ST 2025 FOR THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE A REVISED FUNDING PLAN AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT. SENATOR DAVIS WITH SUPPORT FROM THE STATE DELEGATION PRESENT A PROPOSAL TO REDEFINE THE PROJECT TO MATCH THE AVAILABLE FUNDING. DOTY HAS PROVIDED SIX PROJECT OPTIONS ALONG WITH COST ESTIMATES FOR EACH INCLUDING THE PROPOSAL ENDORSED BY SENATOR DAVIS TWO OF THE SIX OPTIONS EXCLUDING THE STANDALONE MACKIE CREEK BRIDGE REPLACEMENT FALL WITHIN THE AVAILABLE 298.85 MILLION WITH THE STANDALONE PROJECT BEING A SIMPLY A DOT PROJECT WHERE THEY WOULD PROVIDE THE FUNDS WITH NO SO WHAT THAT THOSE ARE THE WHEREAS AND THEN IT'S RESOLVED THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE TOWN COUNCIL ADOPT A REVISED SCOPE FOR THE PROJECT KNOWN AS ALSO KNOWN AS THE WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY GATEWAY QUARTER PROJECT TO ALIGN WITH AVAILABLE FUNDS INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING ELEMENTS REPLACEMENT OF THE TWO EASTBOUND SPLIT TWO EASTBOUND BRIDGES OVER MCKEE CREEK AND SKULL CREEK ROAD RETAINING THE EXISTING TWO TWO LANE WESTBOUND BRIDGES CONSTRUCTION OF A THREE LANE EASTBOUND LIFELINE BRIDGE WITHOUT A MULTI-USE PATHWAY STRIPING THE NEW BRIDGE FOR TWO LANES WITH ONLY NECESSARY ROAD TIRES INCLUDED DESIGNING THE BRIDGE WITH TO ACCOMMODATE TEMPORARY FOUR LANE USE IN THE FUTURE IF THE WESTBOUND BRIDGE REPLACEMENT IS REQUIRED I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION.

NO ACCESS TO PINCKNEY ISLAND FROM THE NEW BRIDGE THE EXISTING SKOL CREEK BRIDGE EITHER THE EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND WOULD BE REPURPOSED FOR TWO WAY ACCESS TO THE ISLAND REMOVAL OF THE EASTBOUND BACK CREEK BRIDGE AND CONSTRUCTION OF A ISLAND CONNECTOR ROAD BRIDGE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO MARINER'S COVE BLUE HERON POINT AND HOG ISLAND LINKING BACK TO US TO 70 AT THE WINDMILL HARBOR INTERSECTION AND LASTLY RETENTION OF THE WINDMILL HARBOR TRAFFIC SIGNAL WITH MAST ARMS. THESE ARE THE PROJECT ELEMENTS THAT TAILLIGHTS WERE LAID OUT AND THE D.O.T. OPTION ONE.

SO IT REAFFIRMS OPTION ONE AS AS A DUTY IT THE FUNDING OUTLINE AND FUNDING ELEMENTS ARE OUTLINED WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY AND I THINK IMPORTANT TO NOTE ON THESE NUMBERS THAT THE COUNTY FOR THE AG IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE ANY ON THIS PROJECT AND THAT'S THE WAY THE CURRENT AGREEMENT READS SO HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT OVERAGES ABOVE AND BEYOND THIS WOULD WE NEED TO HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE AVAILABLE FOR THAT AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON LOOKED AT THE IN THE PLAN PROJECT COST RESERVE FUNDS HAD TO HAVE SOME FUNDS AVAILABLE IN THE EVENT OF OVERRUNS THESE WERE TO RECOVER THE POTENTIAL OVERRUNS AND IF UNSPENT THEY WOULD BE THEN USED FOR OTHER ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR BETWEEN MOSS CREEK ROAD AND SPANISH WELLS ROAD PROJECT WOULD FUND THE REPLACEMENT OF THE 24 INCH WATERLINE UP TO LIMITS DEFINED IN STATE ACT 36. AS WE KNOW THERE'S UTILITY RELOCATION PART OF THIS PROJECT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE COSTS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS IN THIS RESOLUTION 6.5 MILLION APPROPRIATION WILL ASSIST WITH DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE ACTUAL RELOCATION COSTS AND COSTS COST COVERED BY THE PROJECT ANY RELOCATION COST ABOVE THIS WOULD APPROPRIATION WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE. THE PUBLIC SERVICE AND TO ADDRESS IMMEDIATE SAFETY CONCERNS AND THE STONEY COMMUNITY 3.5 AND 3.5 MILLION AND LOCAL COUNTY FUNDS WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO A LOCAL ROAD PROJECT WITH THE TOWN OVERSEEING DESIGN CONSTRUCTION AND THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE TOWN AS PART OF THIS RIGHT UP FRONT.

SO THAT CONCLUDES MY DISCUSSION SUBJECT TO YOU YOU ASK QUESTIONS, OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. I'LL START WITH MISS MELINDA.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS MEETING TOGETHER.

I THINK IT'S A PATH THAT YOUR PITCH ABOUT IT IS AGAIN. OH, SHE'S GOT A DIFFERENT ONE THAT SHE ALL RIGHT GOT BETTER. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER.

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COUNCILMAN PARKER OR FUND NARRATIVE MENTIONS UNSPENT BRIDGE MONEYS BE USED FOR LOCAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR MOSS CREEK TO SPANISH WELLS ROAD AND THEN THE STONEY COMMUNITY SAFETY PROJECT. HOWEVER THE REVISED PROJECT SCOPE DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE AREAS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL BE A CONCERN.

SO IT SEEMS THAT WE EITHER HAVE TO CHANGE THE REVISED SCOPE OR BREAK IT INTO TWO PROJECTS LIKE THE SUGGESTED LEVEL SPECIFICITY AS NEEDED FOR POTENTIAL UNSPENT BRIDGE MONEYS AND THE STONEY COMMUNITY SAFETY PROJECT. RIGHT. I SEE THOSE AS PLACEHOLDERS.

I WOULD ANTICIPATE NEED FOR MORE DETAIL AS WE'RE MAKING A BUSINESS CASE FOR FUNDS AND IF SO WE NEED TO LAY OUT THE STEPS GET THIS COMPLETED IN TIME. I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ADDING THE FUNDING TO COVER THE GAP IN REIMBURSEMENT. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR AT THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS. UM I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MENTION IN THE RESOLUTION THAT THIS FUNDING IS COMING FROM LOCAL COUNTY FUNDS.

JUST AS YOU STATED FOR THE STONEY SAFETY PROJECT AND MY REASONING IS THAT THE DOT SAID THAT ANY GAP WOULD HAVE TO BE FUNDED FROM LOCAL FUNDS OR FROM THE CITY.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO DELINEATE THAT IN THE RESOLUTION AND THE PSC IS IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THEIR ESTIMATE. UM PER PETE NARDI THEY SHOULD HAVE THAT COMPLETED BY THE 14TH SO WE CAN GET A BETTER FEEL OF MORE CURRENT INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO COST. AND AS YOU TALK ABOUT MONEY BEING PULLED BY THIS SAID IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER REDUCTION OF OF THE MONEYS OR THE SCOPE THEY'LL BE BIGGER GAP BETWEEN THE COST AND THE REIMBURSEMENT AND A RESOLUTION IS WRITTEN. IT SAYS IT WOULD BE BORNE BY THE CUSTOMERS. NOW WHAT ABOUT ADDED PRINT IN THE RESOLUTION AND THE LAST ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC AT AT WINDMILL HARBOR. UM I KNOW WITH UM A TOWN WANTED TO INTEGRATE THAT INTO OUR ADAPTIVE LIGHT SYSTEM. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT SCOPE OR IF IT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT SCOPE AND IF SO.

UM YOU SHOULD IDENTIFY THAT AND MAKE SURE THERE'S MONEY ALLOCATED IT.

SO THOSE ARE MY FOUR COMMENTS. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE? THE UM I WILL SAY THE WINDMILL HARBOR IS INCLUDED. YEAH.

SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS AND I WAS TAKING NOTES FURIOUSLY AS YOU'RE TALKING.

UM SO WHEN THE HARBOR UM IT IS INCLUDED THE PROJECT COST BUT WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT BEFOREHAND. UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH TOWN STAFF BEING ABLE TO FACILITATE EVEN THAT AHEAD OF TIME. AND THEN ONE NOTE I DID WANT TO REACH OUT ON BEFORE THE OTHER POINT SAYS UH, I FORGOT TO SHARE THIS EARLIER SO WHAT WAS IN THE AGENDA PACKET AND WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN AND IN FRONT OF YOU IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND I LIKE TO THE DIFFERENCE. SO WE GOT LIKE AS I SAID IT WAS OUT ON MONDAY AFTERNOON WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD SINCE THEN DOT REACHED OUT YESTERDAY TO LET MAKE AWARE THAT THE PROJECT COST IN ALL SIX OPTIONS AS DESCRIBED UM DID NOT INCLUDE THE REMAINING ENGINEERING COSTS SO THE ENGINEERING COSTS THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR IS $28 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT. WE HAVE EXPENDED AS YOU IN THE SPENT TODAY $13 MILLION. SO THERE'S STILL $15 MILLION TO BE SPEND IT ON ENGINEERING THAT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THE 257.7 NUMBER. SO WHAT WE PROVIDED IN THE HANDOUT TODAY AND WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN IS BASICALLY DISTRIBUTED THAT $15 MILLION ON A PRO-RATA ON THOSE THREE UH COMPONENTS THE RESERVE FUNDS LOCAL PSB MATCH AND THE STONY PROJECT BASICALLY HAD TO WE HAD TO DRAW FROM SOMEWHERE AND THAT'S WHERE THAT $15 MILLION WAS COMPENSATED FROM SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS NOTED OUR AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED THE

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SO I THINK THE MOST CHALLENGING PART IS WE HAVE LIMITED TIME TO DEFINE ALL OF THAT AND I THINK THIS AGREEMENT AND AND THOUGH IT'S NOT GRANULAR TO THAT DETAIL IS THE HIGH LEVEL INFORMATION THAT I THINK THE CIB WOULD REACT TO. AND AGAIN WE'RE SENDING THIS AS PROPOSAL AND THEN IF THEY HAVE A RESPONSE WE CAN MOST DEFINITELY ADDRESS THAT BUT UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS SPECIFIC THE SPECIFIC QUESTION. YEAH.

QUESTION ON THAT. SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO LET CONTRACT AS A DESIGN BUILD, THEN ALL OF THE DESIGN ENGINEERING WILL BE CONSUMED INSIDE THE BID.

SO AS WE SET NOW THIS IS MORE OF A BID PROJECT OF OUTSIDE NOT CORRECT.

YES. SO ON THE DESIGN BUILD I CAN DEFER TO D.O.T. BUT I'LL TRY TO ANSWER IT AND IF I DON'T I'LL ASK THEM TO STEP IN. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE APPROXIMATELY 30% IN THE DESIGN. THAT'S TYPICALLY ABOUT WHERE YOU IN THE DESIGN BUILD PROCESS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO SOME DEFINITION OF THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU PUT A PACKAGE TOGETHER. SO THERE IF THE ROUTE DOES GOOD DESIGN BUILD THEN THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK AND THEN THAT COST THAT 15 MILLION WOULD GET INCORPORATED THE PROJECT COST. UM, BUT YES YOU'RE YEAH YOU'RE BUT CRAIG I MEAN GET ME GET ME WRONG BUT DESIGN BUILD AND THE INNOVATION INVOLVED IN DESIGN BUILD WOULD MOST LIKELY IF ANYTHING INSTEAD OF INCREASE THE PRICE OF THIS IT WOULD DECREASE THE PRICE POTENTIALLY. I WILL SAY OF THAT 15 MILLION WOULD GET TRANSFERRED TO THE DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT. THE WAY THIS IS SET UP IS A BID BUILD COST ESTIMATE OF LOOKING AT IT. THE OTHER THING IS UNDER THIS THERE IS GOING TO BE MORE ENGINEERING COST TO GET TO A DESIGN BUILD PROCUREMENT BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND REDESIGN AS A SINGLE BRIDGE STRUCTURE SECTION 76 LANE BRIDGE STRUCTURE WHICH IS GOING TO MODIFY WHAT THE POTENTIALLY LOOKS LIKE SO THERE IS REWORK NECESSARY THERE'S ENVIRONMENTAL WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE TO GET TO THAT POINT. THERE IS STILL SOME OF THAT 15 TO BE SPENT BUT SOME OF IT WILL GO THE CONTRACTOR. BUT WHEN YOU LET A DESIGN BUILD, DO YOU HAVE NOT TO? YES, DEPENDS IT TENDS YOU YOU CAN WHAT YOU CAN.

I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUT YOU CAN CORRECT. SO THEN WE WOULD KNOW LEFT OVER FROM THE 298. SO WHAT HILTON HEAD WOULD HAVE IN THE CORRIDOR.

RIGHT. SO JUST MAKING POINT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RESOLUTION? YES, SIR. UM, I DON'T THINK THIS WILL TAKE BIG DRILL DOWN IT'S ITEM NUMBER FIVE IN THE REVISED PROJECTS SCOPE WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE EXISTING SKULL CREEK BRIDGE, THE EASTBOUND OR WESTBOUND LANES WILL BE REPURPOSED SO EASTBOUND BRIDGE MAY STAND UP OVER SKULL CREEK OR WE USE THE EXISTING WESTBOUND THAT WILL NOT BE DEMOLISHED. COULD YOU EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON HOW YEAH I I APOLOGIZE. I DIDN'T MEAN TO LEAVE OUT SO THERE WAS TWO THINGS THAT THE SAID WAS THE 15 MILLION AND THE EASTBOUND WESTBOUND. SO WHAT THAT IS IS ORIGINALLY IN THE AGENDA PACKET SAID EASTBOUND D.O.T. WANTED TO RESERVE THE FLEXIBILITY ON HOW BEST TO MAKE THAT ACCESS POINT SO ONCE THEY GET INTO ENGINEERING AND REDESIGNING THE PROJECT TO FIT TO WHAT WE'RE DEFINING IT IT AS IT MAY MAKE MORE SENSE FOR THE WESTBOUND TRAFFIC OFF OF THE ISLAND TO USE THE EASTBOUND LANES SO THAT THE DRIVEWAY ACCESS TO PINCKNEY ISLAND USES THE TODAY'S LANES IT MAY MAKE MORE SENSE ONCE THEY GET INTO IT TO DO THE

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ALLEN MAKE ME FEEL LIKE I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN. I KNOW I FEEL LIKE I WON'T I DON'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS ALL ALL THE TIME. I TRY TO CLEAR SOMETIMES I DON'T GET IT QUITE RIGHT BUT ASK AGAIN ANYBODY CAN GET IT. THANKS.

THANK YOU. AND THE QUESTIONS FOLLOW. WELL YEAH COME BECAUSE FIRST QUESTION IS FOR SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ARE YOU GUYS PREPARED TO HELP STEP US TO THE PROCESS RENEGOTIATING WITH THE CIB? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR CONTINGENCY BUILT INTO THE PROJECT COSTS AND WE ALSO HAVE AS THIS RESOLUTION IS CURRENTLY WORDED AN ADDITIONAL CONTINGENCY IN RESERVE FUNDS AND. YOU'VE GOT A GROUP TO CONSIDER. I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT APPROACHING THE CIB AND SAYING WE'VE GOT STACKED CONTINGENCY AND WE DON'T WANT THEM TO PULL OUR FUNDING SO AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THE NEED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS TO HAPPEN ON ALLEN I'M SIMPLY SUGGESTION ONE ONE THING IN THE RESOLUTION THE WAY IT'S WORDED AS WE GET INTO THE LAST PAGE AND IT SPEAKS THE RESERVE FUNDS IT SAYS RESERVE FUNDS WILL COVER A POTENTIAL PROJECT OVERRUNS IF UNSPENT THEY BE USED FOR OTHER LOCAL ROAD IMPROVEMENTS I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE CHANGE THAT VERBIAGE TO WILL BE USED THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT DOWN THE ROAD FOR SOME SPECIFICS AROUND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE AND COST INVOLVED WITH THEM IF I CAN HELP AGREE THAT'S A GOOD COMMENT AND I THINK I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE CAN'T MAKE CHANGE.

ONE THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND THREE.

SO OPTION THREE IS THE BRIDGE AND ACTUALLY THE ROAD THE CONTINUATION OF FIVE LANES AND OPTION ONE IS JUST THE BRIDGE. WHAT WE THINK IS THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IF THE BRIDGE IS COMPLETED THAT WE CAN STILL DO THE ROADWORK BUT WHAT OPTION ONE DOES IS PROVIDE A RISK ASSESSMENT OF RISK FOR FOR THE COUNTY AS THE THE HOLDER OF THE RISK OF OVERRUNS.

SO IT MITIGATES THAT RISK BUT THEN IT ALSO PROVIDES ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY REALLY FOR THE PROJECT BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE TOWN BECAUSE THE REASONING IS WHEN THIS PROJECT GETS REDEFINED AS JUST THE BRIDGE PROJECT THEN ONLY THE BRIDGE FEDERALIZED.

SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH WITH SOME OF THE IMPACTS STONY AND SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE PROJECT HAS BEEN THAT THE PROJECT HAS BEEN FEDERALIZED.

SO BY DOING IT IN THIS METHOD THEN IF THERE IS FUNDS LEFT AFTER INVOICES HAVE BEEN PAID AND THERE IS FUNDING AND WE WILL INSTEAD OF MAY WORK ON THE REST OF THE PROJECT THEN THERE'S MORE FLEXIBILITY ON WHAT TYPE OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND CONSTRAINTS ARE NOT AS RIGOROUS AS THEY ARE IN A FEDERAL PROJECT AT THAT POINT IT'S A LOCAL PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY AND TOWN WORK TOGETHER AND SUBMIT AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT TO DOT AND THERE ARE NO FEDERAL FUNDS IN THAT COMPONENT IT JUST OH GOOD THANK YOU SO MUCH JUST TO CLARIFY MY ANSWER IS CLEAR THAT THE CONTRACT IS TO SEE IF WE WILL CONTINUE TO RIGHT AND WE ALSO HAVE A AGREEMENT WITH, DOTTIE, FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL. SO WE'LL OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO COORDINATE ALL BOTH OF THOSE AGREEMENTS. RIGHT.

OKAY. MY PREPARING FOR CLARITY, RIGHT? YOU JUST SAID IT. IT'S A BRIDGE PROJECT. THE BRIDGE IS FEDERAL LANDS ON JENKINS ISLAND. THIS HAS NOTHING THIS THIS JOINT RESOLUTION NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING REGARDING MUNICIPAL CONSENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED CORRECT? YEAH. I WAS WAITING FOR THE QUESTION MARK AT THE END THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. SO THIS IS A BRIDGE PROJECT THAT CROSSES THE INTERCOASTAL

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NOW WHETHER WE WANT TO CONTINUE IN DEVELOPING MLA BEYOND AGAIN NOR TO CIB ARE INVOLVED IN THAT NOR HAVE ANY PREFERENCE BUT THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES AND THIS REALLY BECOMES ALMOST SALES TOOL SHOWING THE CIB THAT WE'RE WORKING TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE AGREED, CORRECT? YES, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT AND THAT IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEPUTY SECRETARY HE INDICATED THE SAME THAT IT MAKES A STRONG STATEMENT WHEN WE GO TO THE CIB THAT THE TOWN THE COUNTY ARE A LONG WAY AHEAD.

YES, OKAY. YES SIR. I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

I OPTION AT 257 MILLION GOES TO JENKINS ISLAND ROAD. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S THE BRIDGE AND THE ROADWAY TO JENKINS ISLAND AND THEN OPTION THREE WILL CONTINUE PASS JENKINS ISLAND ROAD FROM JENKINS ISLAND TO SQUIRE POPE WHICH IS A 10TH OF A MILE AND THEN FROM SQUIRE POLK TO SPANISH WELLS WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE ABOUT SEVEN LANES BUT IT APPEARS THIS A $6 MILLION DIFFERENCE IN THAT EXTENSION FROM JENKINS ISLAND TO SQUIRE POPE THE A 10TH OF A MILE AND ONWARD TO SPANISH WELLS WHERE WE HAVE SEVEN LANES.

SO YOU'RE TALKING HERE ABOUT A THREE LANE 8/10 OF A MILE ROAD JOINING UP WITH THE SEVEN LANES FROM US GUADALUPE SPANISH WELLS WHAT DOES A $16 MILLION BEING USED FOR WHY IS THERE SUCH BIG DELTA THERE? SO THE $16 MILLION IS ESSENTIALLY THE BIG CALL THIS IS BRIDGE WERE $16 MILLION TAKES THAT ROAD ROADWORK FROM THE NEW BRIDGE THE THREE LANE BRIDGE RIGHT THAT IS STRIPED IS TWO LANES AND THEN DOES A THIRD LANE OF ROADWAY FROM THE BRIDGE TO WHERE IT MATCHES UP AT SQUIRE POPE ESSENTIALLY SO NOT THREE LANES AND OPTION ONE IT STAYS IS TWO THAT'S CALLED THAT ACCESS LANE AT WINDMILL HARBOR WILL STAY THE SAME BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE THIRD LANE IN THAT AREA DOWN FOR IT. SO THE INTENT WITH THE BRIDGE WORK IS THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOME SMALL AMOUNT OF ROADWORK TO GET IT BACK BECAUSE IT'S OFF ALIGNMENT TO GET IT BACK TO ALIGNMENT RIGHT. BUT THAT ROAD WILL ONLY BE TWO LANES BACK TO THE HARBOR AND IT MAY GO THROUGH IN THE HARBOR JUST TO TIE IT IN IT IT DEPENDS. WE'LL HAVE TO THAT'S THE ENGINEERING COMPONENT BUT THE ROADWORK ITSELF WOULD STOP AT WINDMILL HARBOR AND ON THE SIDE ON THE ON THE MAINLAND SIDE IT WOULD IN MOST LIKELY BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY OVERPASS AND BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS ONE, TWO AND THREE HAVE A PARALLEL TRACK THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED ON THE NORTH SIDE 278 BETWEEN JENKINS ISLAND ROAD AND THOSE COMMUNITIES MARIN'S CODE BLUE HERON AND HARBOR HOG OUT. THAT'S CORRECT. YES.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO ASK SENATOR DAVIS IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. WE GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT AND COUNCIL COMMENTS.

I'LL MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS IN REGARD TO TO SEB DYNAMICS I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JOHN WHITE, THE CIP CHAIRMAN TODAY AND AND MAYOR PERRY IS CORRECT IN THAT THE SURVEY DID TAKE FUNDING AWAY FROM CHARLESTON IN 526 PROJECT BUT I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THAT WHAT WE'RE HERE IS IS DIFFERENT IN A FEW RESPECTS FROM SITUATION YOU KNOW ONE WE'RE NOT WE WOULD NOT BE ASKING THE CITY FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING IT YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH IN THAT THE MONEY WE HAVE CHARLESTON WAS REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THE AT THE HEARING WHEN THEY GOT THEIR EXISTING FUNDING YANKED. SECOND WE'D BE GOING TO THE WITH A GOOD FAITH PROPOSAL ON WHAT TO DO WITH THE MONEY HAVE IN HAND CHARLESTON DID NOT DO THAT CHARLESTON DIDN'T PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT WAS SCALED DOWN. IT DIDN'T PROPOSE DOING SOMETHING ON AN INCREMENTAL BASIS. IT JUST SIMPLY SAID THIS OUR PROJECT AND THIS IS THE MONEY WE NEED SO I WANT TO MAKE THOSE TWO OBSERVATIONS.

I DO THINK THAT THAT OUR APPLICATION OR OUR REQUEST OF THE CIB WILL BE A HIGHER GREAT GREATLY HIGHER LIKELIHOOD OF SUCCESS THAN THAN CHARLESTON'S YOU KNOW IN REGARD TO THE THE RENEGOTIATION OF THE THE INTER-GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT IN ADDITION TO THE TIMELINE THAT JARED REFERENCED THAT HAVE BEEN BREACHED OR NOT MET YOU'D ALSO HAVE TO THE INITIAL IDEA WAS PREDICATED UPON THE HUNDRED $20 MILLION GOING TOWARD AN ENTIRE PROJECT BOTH EASTBOUND WESTBOUND SPANS BEING REPLACED.

SO YOU KNOW THE SCOPE OF WORK IN THAT RESPECT IS MATERIALLY CHANGED.

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I THINK THE SEVEN UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH COST OVERRUNS.

WE'RE MAKING A GOOD FAITH EFFORT. I DO I DO THINK THAT IF WE COME BACK TO THEM WITH THIS PROPOSAL THAT THAT YOU KNOW, YOU DISCUSSED HERE AND WE'RE SHOWING THAT THAT THE LOCAL MATCH IS BEING MADE I MEAN I ASSUME BASED ON THOSE NUMBERS, BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING THAT THE ENTIRETY OF THE OF THE LOCAL ARE BEING EXPENDED.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, I THINK I THINK SO. THERE'S NO QUESTION AS TO OUR LOCAL MATCH NOT BEING FULLY EXPENDED THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

WE'RE WE'RE SPENDING THEM WE ASK THE CIB TO SPEND THEM LAST TO SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO MITIGATE FOR ANY RISK ASSOCIATED WITH OVERRUNS BUT IF THERE'S FUNDS REMAINING AFTER THE PROJECT THE BRIDGE PROJECTS CONSTRUCTED WE WOULD MOVE THOSE PROJECTS TO ROAD PROJECT FUNDING IN THE THIS FOR THAT'S THAT THAT WAS MY POINT IS THAT MAKING SURE THAT THAT LOCAL MATCH MONEY WAS FULLY EXPENDED INTO THIS CORRIDOR IF THERE WERE SOME LEFT OVER I WILL ALSO SAY THAT ANY DECISION THAT THE CIB IN REGARD TO THE MODIFICATION ON THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT THEY ARE VERY CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH AND TALKING TO THE JOINT BOND COMMITTEE WHICH IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE THE ENTITY THAT APPROVES OR DISAPPROVES WHAT THE CIB DOES. SO SO THE CIB BOARD OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT BUT THE GRC IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS AND KEEPING MEMBERS OF GRC UPDATED AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING. YOU KNOW TALKING HOW WE'RE BEHAVING RESPONSIBLY, WE'RE WORKING WITHIN THE DOLLARS WE HAVE. WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THE CIB UNDERSTANDING WE DON'T HAVE A LOCAL MATCH TO ACCOMPANY THAT THE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS I'M GETTING VERY POSITIVE INDICATIONS FROM SECRETARY POWELL FROM CHAIRMAN WHITE WITH THE CIB AND ALSO THE MEMBERS OF THE GRC THAT I'VE BEEN BRIEFING ON THIS WHILE MAYOR PERRY IS CORRECT, THIS IS THERE'S NO GUARANTEE AS WHAT THE WILL DO OUR GRC WILL DO I FEEL CONFIDENT IN OUR ABILITY TO MAKE A STRONG CASE TO KEEP THE ENTIRE HARD $20 BILLION DEDICATED EVEN ON SCALED DOWN APPROACH.

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SO IF YOU SEE ANYTHING THAT'S WELL WHAT WE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT LET ME ON RECORD IN THIS COMMENT TO ME AND I WOULD CONCUR WITH OFTEN ONE AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROJECT BUT I WOULD MAKE COMMENT ABOUT SEVERAL SEVERAL AREAS BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE FOR ME RIGHT NOW WOULD BE WHAT HAPPENS TO IMPROVEMENT IN THE STONEY COMMUNITY AND I THINK I WANT TO REALLY EMPHASIZE DOING SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THAT AREA SAFETY IS ONE THING AND I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATE SOME SAFETY PRECAUTION ESTONIA COMMUNITY BUT I WANT TO GO A LITTLE FURTHER IN AD INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE STONEY COMMUNITY AS.

WELL AND WHEN I SAY INFRASTRUCTURE I'M TALKING FOR ECONOMIC ROAD DESTROY BLACK COMMUNITIES HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE ROADS TO IMPROVE THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND I THINK WE CAN AT SOME POINT IN TIME THIS COUNCIL AND THE TOWN CAN COMMIT FUNDING TO HELP IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ECONOMIC GAIN IN THE STONEY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT IF YOU TRAVELING AUTOMOBILE POINT TO HILLS IN HERE YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH THE STONEY COMMUNITY AND QUESTION BECOMES HOW CAN THAT COMMUNITY ATTRACT TO STOP BY FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES IN THINK WE CAN REALLY DO SOMETHING TO DESIGN A SYSTEM INFRASTRUCTURE TO IMPROVE THE STONEY COMMUNITY SO THAT ECONOMIC GAINS CAN HAPPEN IN THE STONEY COMMUNITY JUST LIKE YOU DID 50, 60, 70 YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS ONLY ONE ROAD

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THIS BRIDGE PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LOT OF YEARS AND WE ARE BEING TOLD BY THE D.O.T.

HERE ARE THE MY UNDERSTANDING THE DOT'S THEY WANT TO BUILD ROADS NO MATTER WHAT WE DO SO YOU KNOW I THINK WE OUGHT TO TAKE INTO OUR OWN HANDS GET THIS DONE BEFORE THE DOT COMES IN NEXT TIME WE TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS. EVERYBODY THAT I TALKED TO ALSO WITH THIS LIST SAYS THE OPTION ONE IS THE ONE TO GO WITH AND IF THIS IS TRULY A BRIDGE PROJECT AND IT'S A COUNTY THING, RESOLUTION SHOULD BE DONE PRETTY QUICKLY.

SO MY THING IS WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO LET'S GET IT DONE. AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS THE INPUT ALL OF YOU PEOPLE HERE AND LISTENING HAS HELPED US GET TO WHERE WE ARE AND TAUGHT US THAT WE'VE GOT TO THINGS A LOT QUICKER AND NOT WAIT TILL THE 11TH HOUR.

SO WE APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU, MISS TAMMY.

COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU AND THANK EVERYONE TONIGHT FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT BEFORE US. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT A LOT.

I DO HAVE COUPLE OF STATEMENTS IN AND ONE BUT YOU'VE YOU'VE HEARD THEM ALL BEFORE FROM ME SO JUST BEAR WITH ME I REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND SPECIFICALLY WARD FOUR BUT ALL THE RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND OVER THE YEARS THAT 11,000 PLUS HAVE PUT NAME TO A PETITION TO ASK THAT WE TAKE SERIOUS ONLY THE TYPE OF BRIDGE THAT WE'RE CONSTRUCTING AND THAT WHAT IT WILL MEAN TOWARDS OUR BRAND ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND IN THE FUTURE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS CRITICAL TO US AS IMPORTANT AS ALL OF OUR PAST HISTORY AND IT IS WE DON'T WANT TO RUIN WHAT COMES NEXT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN THE GRANDCHILDREN AND GREAT GRANDCHILDREN HERE ON THE ISLAND.

AND SO WITH THAT I KNOW THAT. QUIGLEY WELL THERE I KNOW CRAIG HAS HEARD THIS OVER AND OVER FROM ME AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN AND I'LL SAY IT WITH ALL IMPORTANT TO YOU REPRESENTING 11,000 PLUS PEOPLE THE WIDTH OF THE BRIDGE IS, THEIR CONCERN PRIMARY CONCERN AND SO WITH THOSE TEN FOOT BREAKDOWN LANES IT'S A HUMBLE REQUEST TO EVERY FOOT COUNTS IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY WHATSOEVER TO MAKE THOSE LESS THAN TEN FEET EACH. I THINK THAT WOULD GO AN AWFUL, AWFUL LONG WAY TO SATISFYING SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'VE HEARD OVER THE LAST SEVEN OR SO YEARS. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I REITERATE THAT AND HOPEFULLY YOU'RE PUTTING A STAR BY IT AS YOU'RE TAKING NOTES. IT'S THAT IMPORTANT AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE RESOLUTION NUMBER THREE ON PAGE THREE IS TO ADDRESS THE IMMEDIATE SAFETY CONCERNS IN THE STONEY COMMUNITY 3.5 MILLION AND LOCAL COUNTY FUNDS WILL BE ALLOCATED TO A LOCAL ROAD WITH THE TOWN OVERSEEING THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION I STILL HAVEN'T SEEN AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION WAS BEFORE I'M NOT SURE WHAT THOSE SAFETY CONCERNS ARE AND WHAT IT IS SPECIFICALLY THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING AND I GUESS I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF SOME OF THAT SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THE THOUGHTS ARE ALIGNED WITH WHAT THE REAL CONCERNS ARE THERE WITH REGARD TO SAFETY.

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YES I'M IN SUPPORT OF OPTION ONE. I ALSO HEARD THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE ON PAGE THREE ITEM ONE FROM THE WORD MADE A WILL THAT THIS WILL BE A DESIGN BUILD AND WE NEED TO MOVE EXPEDITIOUSLY. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN TABERNACLE VICE-CHAIR I DON'T THINK I'M AND I'VE STATED IT BEFORE THE RESIDENTS SPOKE VERY CLEARLY ON NOVEMBER 5TH THERE IS NO EXTRA FUNDING SO TO STAY WITHIN BUDGET WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DIRECTED TO DO I'M FOR OPTION COUNCILMAN ALEX THANKS AGAIN MADAM CHAIR OUT TO HIM IN FAVOR OPTION ONE I APPRECIATE AS I GUESS OPTION ONE BE BECAUSE IT HAS SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE HERE AROUND YOU KNOW SOME OF OUR CONCERNS ON ON ISLAND OKAY PARTICULARLY IT COMES TO SAFETY I'VE GOT I THINK ABOUT SEVEN NAMES ON HERE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THAT AREA. OKAY.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THEM TONIGHT BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THEY ARE SAFETY CONCERNS IN THAT AREA SO A COMMITMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND TOWN TO MOVE FORWARD TO THOSE IS ULTIMATELY IMPORTANT. SO AGAIN, I'LL YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE WITH THE SLIGHT AND THE COMMITMENT I AM PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD.

MARY PERRY I'VE PRETTY MUCH SAID EVERYTHING THAT I NEEDED TO SAY BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALL HERE TOGETHER WORKING FOR A SOLUTION THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT TRANSPIRED IN THE PAST. THIS IS YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT ABOUT BUILDING BETTER RELATIONSHIPS AND I THINK THIS IS ONE GREAT STEP TO DOING THAT SO WE CAN CONTINUE DO GREAT THINGS. OKAY. COUNCILMAN ELLEN? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I WILL NOT USE MY ENTIRE MINUTES. I'M FROM NEW YORK AND I SPEAK VERY QUICKLY SO ALL HAVE TO LISTEN VERY QUICKLY. I'M ANXIOUS TO REACH A COLLABORATIVE AGREEMENT WITH CONSIDERATION ALL PRACTICAL SUGGESTIONS SO WE CAN BEGIN TO DESIGN CONTINUE DESIGN PHASE AND BEGIN CONSTRUCTION. I SUPPORT ALEX BROWN'S PROPOSAL FOR AN OPTION ONE BE BECAUSE I KNOW WITH OPTION ONE THE EFFORT WILL END AT JENKINS ISLAND ROAD AND THAT LEAVES THE STONY COMMUNITY WITHOUT ANY PLAN. SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CONSIDERATION THERE FOR WHATEVER FUNDING IS AVAILABLE TO BE INCLUDED IN OPTION ONE BE I'M AWARE OF THE LIMITATIONS OF BUDGET AND I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS WITH THAT BUDGET AFTER WE REACH FINAL AGREEMENT TO PROCEED. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING THIS KIND RECESSION BEGAN IN 2016. THERE ARE A GREAT MANY PEOPLE WHO TO SEE THE PROJECT TAKE SHAPE AND BEGIN AS. I MOVE AROUND THE ISLAND ON A DAILY BASIS.

I FREQUENTLY HEAR A VERY SIMPLE PHRASE JUST GET STARTED AND. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK COUNCILMAN PAT, GO AHEAD.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO FIRST OF ALL, I'D SUPPORT ONLY WORKING THE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR OUR CURRENT CONSIDERATION.

I SUPPORT OPTION ONE PROVIDED THAT INCLUDES IMPROVEMENTS THERE IS AT LEAST ONE CAUSEWAY THERE I HAVEN'T HEARD IT DOES INCLUDE THOSE CALLS ALSO WOULD ASK A SIDOTI LOOK AT IN THE PROJECT DOCUMENTS LOOKING AT ALTERNATE BIDS ON IF IT'S DESIGN BUILD ADDING PEDESTRIAN BIKE FACILITIES INCLUDE THE PORTION OF THE REMAINING EXISTING EASTBOUND BRIDGE AND FROM PINCKNEY ISLAND I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH ANOTHER LARGE SHOE DROPPING TONIGHT 15 MILLION IN ENGINEERING COST TO ME THAT'S VERY ALARMING AND I WOULD ASK D.O.T. TO LOOK AT

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WE'VE GOT HAVE IT AND WE'VE GOT TO KEEP IT FLOWING. I'M VERY DISTURBED THAT THERE'S ANY MORE MONEY FOR STONY IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THERE ARE SAFETY ISSUES THERE.

IN THE LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED FROM DATED JANUARY NINE, 2025 SIGNED BY TOM DAVIS AND OTHER REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR DELEGATION THERE'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PARAGRAPH IN THERE AND THAT IS IN THE LAST PAGE PAGE THREE WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKING ON A MASTER PLAN FOR THE LAND PORTION AND IN THAT NEXT LAST PARAGRAPH THE LETTER IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN ON ISLAND MASTER PLAN WE RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST THAT DEFERENCE BE PROVIDED TO THE TOWN AND RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND THAT THEY ARE THE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED PARTIES. THERE ARE SEVERAL IMPORTANT ISLAND SPECIFIC QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES TO BE SORTED OUT IN THE MASTER PLAN CALL AND MITIGATING IMPACTS ON THE STONY COMMUNITY FACILITATING THE FREE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS THAT OCCUR AT THE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS AND PROVIDING FOR AN ESTHETICALLY PLEASING ENTRANCE TO THE ISLAND . THIS DOES NOT DO THAT. I DO WANT TO WORK WITHIN THE FUNDS AVAILABLE BUT I THINK THAT I'M GREATLY DISMAYED BY THIS REDUCTION IN 15 MILLION.

I DO SUPPORT THE SUGGESTION MR. BROWN ALSO AGREED TO BY MR. PASSMAN THAT THAT PARAGRAPH BE CHANGED. SO IF I'D SPENT THEY WILL BE USED FOR LOCAL ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND THE 2018 REFERENDUM THE THE VOTE WAS FOR MAULES TO SQUIRE POPE NOT JUST THE BRIDGE THE CIB AGREEMENT IS MOSS CREEK THE SPANISH WELLS NOT JUST THE BRIDGE I WOULD REQUEST THE RIGHT OF AWAY BE REEXAMINED AND ALSO THAT THERE A DECREASE IN THE SPEED TO 40 MILES PER HOUR THROUGHOUT THIS AREA INCLUDING THE THANK YOU THANK YOU COUNCILMAN LOGAN. THANK YOU. FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE COMING OUT. I'M GLAD WE COULD GET TOGETHER AND GET THIS ON THE ROAD ONE THINGS I WILL SAY A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU KNOW WANT TO TALK ABOUT AREAS THAT WE REPRESENT WHETHER IT'S HILTON HEAD, BLUFFTON, BEAUFORT BUT THIS IS A COUNTY PROJECT AND I SAY THAT NOT JUST BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS THE WITH THE NAME ON THE PIECE OF PAPER WITH THE AS A CDOT BUT EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY GOES TO HILTON HEAD WHETHER IT'S FOR WORK OR PLEASURE.

IT'S NOT JUST FAMILIES THAT LIVE ON THE ISLAND THAT USE THAT BRIDGE.

THE MAJORITY OF WORKERS ARE COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF HILTON HEAD TO GO TO THE ISLAND.

SO UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE TASKED WITH ALSO MEETING THE NEEDS OF ANYBODY OUTSIDE OF HILTON HEAD TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE BECAUSE THOSE VOICES ALSO HAVE TO BE REPRESENTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE FOR HILTON HEAD TO THRIVE THE WAY IT HAS.

WITH THAT SAID, I'M PROBABLY THE BIGGEST PERSON ON COUNTY COUNCIL RIGHT NOW WANTS TO STOP GROWTH. I DON'T CARE HOW MAD PEOPLE GET ABOUT IT.

SO BUILDING A BIGGER, BIGGER BRIDGE IS JUST GOING TO BRING MORE GROWTH TO HILTON HEAD.

OKAY. I'VE DRIVEN THAT BRIDGE FOR YEARS.

I GREW UP HERE THE TIME REALLY HAS NOT CHANGED AS MUCH AS PEOPLE THINK GETTING TO THAT BRIDGE ARE GETTING TO THE ISLAND. I CAN STILL GO FROM BUCKWALTER AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING AT 8:00 A MORNING IN 20 TO 25 MINUTES THAT'S A SHORTER DRIVE THAN BEAUFORT TO BLUFFTON. SO WITH THAT OPTION NUMBER ONE I HAVE I REALLY HAVE NO ISSUE WITH I WISH WE COULD HAVE GOT THIS GOING DOWN THE ROAD YEARS AGO WHEN THE PROJECT WAS A LOT CHEAPER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YEARS AGO IT'S BEEN KICKED DOWN THE CAN FOR RECOUNTED ALMOST A DECADE NOW SO PART THAT DOES FALL ON FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS SOME OF US MYSELF INCLUDED NOT GETTING TO THE TABLE SOONER TO GET THIS BRIDGE SHOVEL IN THE GROUND ALREADY LIKE WE ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED. I'LL BE HONEST MY BIGGEST ISSUE LIKE I SAID IS NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE GROWTH. I IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN YES. IMPROVE SAFETY, CONTINUE TO GET OUR RESIDENTS TO AND OFF THE ISLAND BUT AS WELL AS LET'S BE HONEST, THIS BRIDGE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS NOT UP TO CODE . WE NEED TO GET ONE UP TO CODE SO WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND WE'VE KNOWN THIS FOR YEARS CONCERN WISE FOR ME OUTSIDE OF THE BRIDGE ITSELF

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SO I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE OPTION ONE'S THERE AND ONE OTHER ASPECT ABOUT OPTION ONE IS SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT INTO FUTURE WITH SOME DATA IS I AGREE WITH MS. BRYSON ABOUT BIKE PATH IN THIS TRAVEL LANE FOR BIKES IF WE CAN SOME WAY GET THIS STRIPE TO TWO LANES AND THEN USE PART OF IT FOR A BIKE LANE WE COULD START TO GATHER DATA BECAUSE EVERYONE'S ALWAYS SAYING YOU KNOW WE REALLY NEED A BIKE PATH TO BLUFFTON SO WE'RE GOING TO DATA AND WE'RE GOING TO GET YEARS OF DATA IF WE CAN ESTABLISH THAT AND THAT'LL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO IN THE WESTBOUND LANE COMES DO YOU HANG A DO YOU HANG A BIKE PATH OF A WESTBOUND LANE OR DO YOU SAY IT WAS NEVER REALLY UTILIZED PROPERLY? WE DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE.

SO I THINK THAT'S GOOD DATA AND ONE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR THE SIDOTI TO LOOK AS AN ALTERNATE IS IT'S MY TRUE BELIEF AND MAYBE ONLY MINE I HOPE NOT THAT WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THE LIGHTS TO MAKE THIS CORRIDOR WORK AND IT'S MY INTENTION TO TRY AS HARD AS I CAN TO GET RID OF THE LIGHTS IN THE CORRIDOR, BE SAFE, TAKE OF STONEY, GIVE STONEY A TRUE EXIT SO THAT THEY CAN AND HAVE A STONEY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AREA AND GET BACK 50 YEARS AND 60 YEARS AGO IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER AND I BELIEVE WE CAN DO THAT BUT WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE AND SO WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT GETTING RID OF THIS WINDMILL HARBOR LIGHT AND I WOULD, I WOULD REALLY WISH THAT YOU WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT YOU'VE ALREADY DESIGNED INTO IT A A ROAD GOING BACK TO FROM HOG ISLAND IF WE COULD USE THE FRONTAGE ROAD GOING UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE TO THE ROAD ALREADY EXIST COMING BACK ACROSS HOG ISLAND AND DOING AN ACCELERATION LANE TO LEAVE TO GO TO BLUFFTON. THAT WAY WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT LIGHT AND SO ON FOR OPTION ONE. THANK YOU. OKAY COUNCILMEMBER I'LL MAKE IT REAL SIMPLE FOR OPTION ONE IS STAY WITHIN OUR BUDGET. I REITERATE WHEN OUR VICE CHAIR AND SAID COUNCILMAN STEVE SECOND CITY I WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT LIKE THE PROJECT THAT WE APPROVED AT THE TOWN LEVEL JUNE WHEN THE LEVEE FAILED AND IN NOVEMBER WE HAD A SCALED BACK AND THE INITIAL PRESENTATION IS WELL LET'S CUT OUT THE WESTBOUND LANE.

I WAS ONE WHO AT THAT POINT SAID SHE WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD DO EVERYTHING EXCEPT THAT WESTBOUND LANE THE FIGURES WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW ARE NOT THERE.

MY PARTICULAR INTEREST IN AMENITIES THAT GO THE BRIDGE IS A BIKE PED PATH THAT HAS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT AND THE THINGS THAT I HAVE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN MY COMMUNITY ON THE SOUTH END OF SHE PINES POLLS THERE RECENTLY THAT BIKING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN GOING TO THE BEACH. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO THAT.

THERE WILL BE A LOT IF THERE WAS IF THERE WERE SUCH A PATH FROM E-BIKES FROM PEOPLE GOING

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AWESOME. YES I ACTUALLY LIVED ON LAST BUT YOU'RE NOT LISA LIVED ON HILTON HEAD FOR FOR SIX YEARS FROM 1996 AND MOVED TO BLUFFTON.

SO HAVE LOTS OF FRIENDS THAT ARE ON HILTON HEAD AND AS A COUNTY COUNCILMAN I REPRESENT DISTRICT NINE HOWEVER I REPRESENT ALL OF YOU FOR COUNTY PEOPLE AS WELL.

SO AGAIN LOOKING AT THIS IT'S, YOU KNOW WE'VE WE'VE TRIED TO PUSH THIS FORWARD AS BEST WE CAN AS QUICK AS WE CAN FOR FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW IF IF THE CONSENSUS IS OPTION ONE I AM I AM ALL FOR THAT BECAUSE I WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET THIS MOVING BEFORE COSTS CONTINUE TO GO UP. IF I HAD A CHOICE I'D PROBABLY SAY LET'S GO WITH OPTION THREE BECAUSE OPTION THREE EVEN WITH THE EXTRA 14 $13 MILLION IN ENGINEERING KEEPS US WHERE WE HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE, WE HAVE MONEY TO DO IT IT'S RIGHT OUT OUR BUDGET AND IF WE DO NOT DO THOSE THINGS NOW THAT WILL COST MORE IN THE FUTURE. SO I THINK THAT IF CAN IF I HAD MY CHOICE I'D SAY LET'S LET'S GO AHEAD AND AND GO WITH OPTION THREE.

BUT AGAIN I AM HERE THAT'S WILLING TO WORK WITH EVERYONE ELSE FOR US TO COME TO A CONSENSUS WE PUT THIS TO BED, WE CAN TAKE THIS AND AND THEN START FOR THE NEXT THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AFTER THIS WHICH IS GOING TO TAKE US YEARS FOR THE NEXT OPTION TO COME ALONG AND START FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THESE OTHER BRIDGES.

NOW OF WAITING UNTIL IT'S IT'S TOO LATE IT'S LIKE MAKE ONE COMMENT THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THESE TWO COUNCILS WILL DO IN IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND.

IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE'RE DOING FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY AND ALSO FOR THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. I LIKE OPTION ONE SO WE CAN GET IT DONE.

TIME IS RUNNING OUT AND THE BUZZER LIKE WE HEAR THE BUZZER IN THE GAME NEXT DOOR WE GOT TO

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I'LL START AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. DAVID KIMBLE AND WE'LL START THE CLOCK WITH YOU. THE 3 MINUTES LAST TIME YOU CUT ME OFF SO I'LL TRY TO SPEAK MORE QUICKLY THIS TIME THE LEAGUE OF AMERICAN BICYCLISTS IS A4A NONPROFIT THAT GOES BACK TO THE 1800S AND THEY COME OUT WITH A RANKING EVERY YEAR OF NOT ONLY BICYCLE FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES LIKE HILTON HEAD IS RECEIVED A GOLD STANDARD AND THAT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATINGS IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY PARTICULAR EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI.

I THINK HILTON HILTON MAY BE THE ONLY ONE THE LAB OFF ALSO OFFERS RANKINGS AND SOUTH CAROLINA OVERALL IN THE NATIONAL RANK RANKS 47TH OUT OF 50 STATES ON SAFETY IT RANKS 48TH ON FUNDING IT RANKS 48TH ON INFRASTRUCTURE IT RANKS 45TH.

SO WHAT IS THE MESSAGE? I THINK THE MESSAGE IS THAT WE'RE A FAILED STATE IN TERMS OF BUILDING BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS IF WE DON'T BUILD A TEN FOOT PROTECTED PATHWAY ON THE BRIDGE, WE FAIL ALL THE LOCAL RIDERS AND WALKERS WHO WILL USE THE BRIDGE FOR HEALTH WORK, RECREATION AND CONNECTING TO THE MAINLAND IF. WE DON'T BUILD THE PATHWAY WE'RE GOING TO MISS OUT ON ECONOMIC IMPACT OF BIKE TOURISTS.

WE TALK ABOUT STONEY CREEK STONEY COMMUNITY. IF YOU PUT A TRAILHEAD AT THE END OF YOUR COMMUNITY A A PARK A TRAILHEAD PARK A GROCERY STORE, A BIKE SHOP, A RESTAURANT THAT SERVES BEER I CAN GUARANTEE YOU YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ECONOMIC IMPACT THERE AND THOSE RIDERS THAT COME FROM INSTATE OUT OF STATE TO RIDE THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL OVER 100,000 OF THEM LAST YEAR THEY SPEND 2 TO 3 DAYS OR THEY SPEND A DAY RIDING THE TRAIL.

THEY MAY SPEND 2 TO 3 DAYS EXPLORING BLUFFTON AND HILTON HEAD BY BICYCLE AND THEN THOSE BICYCLISTS RIDING FROM MAINE TO KEY WEST ON EAST COAST GREENWAY IF YOU CONNECT TO THE BRIDGE THEY'LL HAVE A CONNECTION TO HILTON HEAD TO EXPLORE THAT AS WELL.

SO WHAT IS THE SOLUTION? IN MY OPINION THE STATE TO DO MORE TO SECURE STATE FUNDING

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HAWAII 10 MILLION FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS FOR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL WASHINGTON STATE THE LEGISLATURE CREATED A $7 MILLION E-BIKE INCENTIVE PROGRAM AND HERE'S A GREAT ONE FLORIDA 200 MILLION TO CONNECT BIKE TRAILS TO A STATE WIDE WILD LIFE CORRIDOR.

THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL CREATIVE THINKING. THINK SO? WHAT CAN WE DO? I THINK WE HAVE TO ASK OUR STATE LEGISLATORS TO MAKE BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING A PART THE ANNUAL STATE BUDGET. THEY MAY DO IT A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE GASOLINE TAX BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE AND I THINK IT'S A NO NO.

AM I GOOD? OKAY. I THINK WE NEED MORE SECONDS.

KEEP GOING. HAVE YOU RUN NUMBERS ON RUNNING A BIKE? A FERRY SERVICE JUST FOR BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS? IF YOU RAN THOSE NUMBERS, MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY TO GET AROUND HAVING TO SPEND MONEY FOR A BIKE BRIDGE.

OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. OH, ONE MORE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NEXT IS CHARLES PERRIN.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE MAYOR AND I ARE EVEN THOUGH WE SHARE THE LAST NAME, WE'RE NOT RELATED AS FAR AS WE KNOW. ANYWAY, MY NAME IS CHARLES PARRY. I AM THE THE CHAIRMAN OF TRAFFIC AT MINUTE WE'RE IN THE HARBOR AND I'D LIKE TO ON BEHALF OF THE TRAFFIC COMMITTEE AND THE WHOLE OF OUR COMMUNITY THINK JOINT COUNCIL FOR COME TOGETHER ON THIS PROJECT IT'S LIKE BEEN A GREAT THING HAS MOVED FORWARD SEEMINGLY FURTHER THAN IT HAS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS I WOULD SAY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT AS JIM KELLY IS PRESIDENT OF OUR PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION MIKE GARRIGAN WHO'S ON THE TRAFFIC COMMITTEE AND JOE PRICE ON THE TRAFFIC COMMITTEE ALL HERE TONIGHT. AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE EXPRESS MY AND OUR APPRECIATION AND ALSO TO JUST VOICE SUPPORT FOR OPTION ONE AND THE AND FOR ADOPTION OF THE JOINT RESOLUTION AND WITH THE CAMERAS COUNCILMAN BROWN'S AMENDMENT WE THINK THAT'S REALLY THE WAY TO GO AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S COMING TOGETHER AND DOING THAT.

I WILL HAVE TO TAKE MY HAT OFF TO THE S.C. DOT OR WHOEVER NAMED A HOG ISLAND CONNECTOR.

THIS IS A LOT OF CREATIVITY WENT INTO THAT AND WE JUST CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TIM KELLEY ALL THE PROPER QUESTION.

OH, OKAY ALL RIGHT, MIKE, YOU'RE GARY THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. IT IS IT'S HAPPY HOUR SO I'LL BE VERY BRIEF.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS AT WINDMILL HARBOR.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT THERE FOR 20 YEARS BEFORE THAT I WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS ON THE PESKY ISLAND SO I'VE BEEN AROUND HERE A LONG TIME PART OF AND ON THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF A LOT OF THESE DISCUSSIONS AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT YOU PUT INTO IT BUT KEEP IN MIND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOLLARS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TIME YOU'RE TALKING ENGINEERING STUDIES TO UNDERSTAND ALL THAT BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO COME RIGHT IN ON TOP OF WINDMILL HARBOR WHICHEVER YOU GO WITH IT'S GOING TO COME RIGHT IN ON TOP OF WOODEN HARBOR AND IT'S GOING TO IMPACT WITH THE HARBOR AND WE JUST HOPE THAT THE PROCESS OF ENGINEERING STUDIES THAT SOME CONSIDERATION BE GIVEN TO US TO HAVE SOME THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WOULD IMPACT THE FINAL DECISIONS IT'S IF YOU LOOK AT THE AT THE DIAGRAMS, IT IS FROM ME TO YOU FROM FROM THE ROAD TO WINDMILL HARBOR.

THE OTHER COMMENT I WOULD MAKE WITH REGARD TO THE LIGHT AT WINDMILL HARBOR KEEP IN THAT THAT SINCE THAT LIGHT'S BEEN UP THERE IT HAS DRASTICALLY ACCIDENTS AND SAVED PROBABLY A OF INJURIES AND A LOT OF LIVES THANK YOU THANK YOU JOE PRICE THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THANK YOU FOR THIS COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

I'VE BEEN IN WINDMILL HARBOR SINCE 2016 AND I CAME FROM THE D.C. AREA SO WE KNOW I HAVE 40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN LAW BOTH AT COUNTY AND TOWN LEVELS. SO I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH A COUPLE THOUGHTS. NUMBER ONE, IT'S MY TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE.

IT TELLS ME GOVERNMENT'S ROLE IN TRAFFIC IS FIRST SAFETY AND SECOND EFFICIENCY EMPHASIZED

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WE THANK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND WE WISH YOU WELL. THANK YOU NEXT IS CHRISTOPHER CLIFF OR IS THAT THE RIGHT WAY JUST LAST NAME IF CLIFF'S LAST NAME IS CHRIS CLIFF FOR THE RECORD YES I HAVE A QUESTION CHAIRMAN HOWARD IF I MAY, THE OPTION ONE PROPOSAL IS STRIKINGLY DIFFERENT TO THE PROPOSAL THAT WENT FORWARD 480 MILLION WHICH WAS PRESENTED ON MORE THAN OCCASION TO THE PUBLIC AND THIS PROPOSAL IS EXCLUDING ACCESS TO THE ISLAND, THE FERRY AND BOAT LANDING FOR PEOPLE TRAVELING EASTWARD. SO MY QUESTION IF I MAY IS THAT A PROPOSAL TO PRESENT THIS NEW PLAN TO THE PUBLIC DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WE DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS BUT YOU CAN DIRECT THAT AFTERWARDS TO THE ENGINEERS OR IF YOU'D LIKE IF YOU WOULD THAT BE GREAT? BECAUSE I THINK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEW EASTBOUND SPANS ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW ANY ACCESS TO THE ISLAND NOR THE FIRST QUAY NOR THE BOAT LANDING AND OF YOU'RE COMING FOR THE FIRST QUAY YOU'VE GOT TO COME ON TO WINDMILL ON TO THE ISLAND TO DO YOU TURN TO GO GO WEST.

SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY QUITE IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO CONSIDER THAT THANK YOU AT THE END WELL WE'LL SEE IF WE HAVE ANY LAST COMMENTS FROM THE ENGINEERS.

I CAN'T IMAGINE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, FRANK BABBLE I'M I'M SURE IT'S PEOPLE ALTHOUGH OTHERS WOULD ACCUSE ME OF BABBLE MY NAME IS BABEL BABBLE MONEY. WELL I DO BABBLE AND FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU TO ALL THE COUNTY FOLKS I'VE KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME AND ALL THE ENGINEERS OR WHATEVER. I WORKED IN THIS FOR MANY YEARS AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS ONE IS COST AND THE OTHER IS INVESTMENT COST AS A ROAD AND INVESTMENT IS THE STONEY AREA BIKE PATH.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AND LIKE TO EXPLAIN WHY AND WHY.

I THINK YOU NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE BIG AND SMALL AROUND THE U.S. INCREASINGLY INVESTING IN BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP RESHAPE THESE COMMUNITIES AND BENEFIT PEOPLE OF ALL INCOME BRACKETS.

HILTON HEAD ISLAND IS AN EXAMPLE THAT HERE ARE SOME OTHER S.C. INVESTMENTS THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL AND BEAUFORT HUNDRED PEOPLE. IT'S RATED ONE OF THE TOP TEN URBAN WALKING COMMUNITIES. IT IS A SOURCE OF URBAN PRIDE THAT'S AN INVESTMENT THAT'S NOT A COST THE SWAMP RABBIT TRAIL IN GREENVILLE I REMEMBER WAS A LITTLE SMALL TRAIL.

NOW THERE ARE 2 MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR WHO WALK AND WALK ON THAT TRAIL.

IT IS HELP GREENVILLE EVOLVE INTO WHAT IT'S BECOME WHICH IS A POWERHOUSE THAT IS AN INVESTMENT THE BIKE PED FACILITY ON THE RAVENEL BRIDGE CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THEY DIDN'T DO THAT BIKE AND SLOW IT DOWN AND PUT THAT IN? CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE GETTING FROM MOUNT PLEASANT? HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO COMMUTE? WHERE WOULD THEY PARK THE CARS ? THESE ARE ARE EXAMPLES OF SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY INVESTMENTS THAT ARE PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT AND THERE ARE MANY OTHER EXAMPLES THROUGHOUT THE U.S. YOU RECOGNIZE THIS WHEN YOU ALL APPROVE THE COUNTY CONNECTS BIKE PED MASTER PLAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO THE U.S. TO 78 BRIDGE PATHWAY WAS ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THAT PLAN THAT PLAN A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN I HAVE HEARD NOTHING THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NOR THIS THING THAT WE SPENT TWO YEARS DOING 20 OF US IT WAS THE LINK PROVIDING BEAUFORT COUNTY IMPROVED SAFETY CONNECTIVITY, SUPPORTING GROWTH, REDUCING TRAFFIC CONGESTION, A VIABLE TRANSPORTATION OPTION WHILE ALSO HELPING HILTON HEAD WITH THIS LABOR BILL WOULD BE ABLE TO BE CHARGES. WE'VE DONE SO MUCH WE'VE COME SO FAR AS ONE OF THE TOP RATED BIKE FRIENDLY DESTINATIONS OF THE COUNTRY WOULD BE DISAPPOINTING NOT TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD TO WALK AWAY FROM THIS OPPORTUNITY WITHOUT A CREATIVE COST EFFECTIVE BIKE PIT SOLUTION OF SOME KIND WITH WHAT WE CAN COME OUT OF THIS THING WITH A PROTECTED LANE OR SOMETHING WOULD BE A SHAME. THANK YOU.

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NEXT IS ANDY. I'M NOT SURE HOW TO SAY THE LAST NAME ANDY.

THERE'S SOMEONE HERE BY THE NAME OF ANDY MARINO OR IMPERSONATING IT STARTS SO THEY WANT TO TALK PARTNER PETER FINALLY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND WE HAD ONE PERSON WE HAVE ONE MORE ON THE LIST BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON THAT CAME IN. I'D LIKE TO GIVE PERSON AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO BUT LAST THE LIST IS FELICE LAMARCA AND THEN WHERE IS THE OTHER THAT CAME IN? COME ON UP FRONT SIR. YOU'LL BE AFTER HER.

OKAY? OKAY. THANKS.

LISA LAMARCA, CURRENTLY A RESIDENT IN PINES. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR COMING TOGETHER. THIS IS NOT EASY. WE CITIZENS GIVE YOU A HARD JOB AND GIVE YOU A HARD TIME SOMETIMES. SO THANK YOU.

I HOPE THE COUNTY AND THE AND I SHOULD SAY TOWNS WILL DO MORE OF THIS SO WE CITIZENS CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING GIVE YOU INPUT THANK YOU AND I ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK MR. CUNNINGHAM FOR STATING THE VERY DIFFICULT TRUTH WHICH IS HAVING MOVED FROM ATLANTA IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME. SO IF YOU AND I DID I CAME IF YOU BUILD A SIX LANE BRIDGE YOU'RE GOING TO FILL IT UP. HILTON HEAD IS VERY SPECIAL. I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE OTHER PLACES THE COUNTRY.

WE ATTRACT PEOPLE BECAUSE OF OUR UNIQUENESS BECAUSE OF PASSIONATE PEOPLE LIKE MR. BAMBOO BABEL BABEL. AND SO PLEASE REMEMBER THE UNIQUENESS TALKS ABOUT KILLING THE GOLDEN GOOSE. WELL PUSHING MORE PEOPLE OVER THE BRIDGE AND ON TO HILTON IN MY OPINION AS A PROFESSIONAL WORKING AND SELLING ON THE ISLAND FOR 30 YEARS THAT WOULD BE KILLING THE GOLDEN GOOSE. SO LET'S TRY TO KEEP IT SPECIAL.

DO WHAT WE TO DO FOR SAFETY COMMUNITIES STOP HURTING THE STONEY COMMUNITY AND LISTEN TO WHAT MR. GLOVER MR. BROWN HAVE SAID AND LET'S TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS AND I THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THE LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. YES, MA'AM.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS THOMAS CURTIS ONE THE THIRD AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND ALSO MR. DAVIS FOR ALL WHICH I DONE.

BUT I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW STONEY WAS THE LIVING BREATHING COMMUNITY AS IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE? CAN YOU IMAGINE 2720 8000 VEHICLES COMING THROUGH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD, $3.5 MILLION? IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY BUT IT'S NOT.

PLEASE LET'S NOT FORGET THOSE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY.

THAT IS MY COMMUNITY I LIVE OFF SQUIER PAUL BREAUX SQUIRE PAUL BREAUX WAS MENTIONED HERE A COUPLE TIMES THIS EVENING. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S BEEN ON IT LATELY BUT IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE ROWING AND SAILING CENTER IS, PEOPLE DON'T GO TO 78 ANYMORE.

THEY COME DOWN GUM TREE ROAD, THEY COME TO SQUIRE PAUL ROAD AND THEY WAIT FOR THE LIGHT TO CHANGE SO THEY CAN GET OFF ISLAND. NOW THAT'S 2530 MINUTES RIGHT THERE BY ITSELF PEOPLE JUST TO LEAVE THE COMMUNITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.

WE LOST LIKE I SAID, SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY DUE TO THE ROAD AND LIKE I SAID I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT HAS DONE BUT PLEASE LET'S NOT FORGET THE STONY PEOPLE.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE BEARING THE OF ALL OF THIS. I KNOW YOU BUILD IT AND PEOPLE WILL BUT WE CANNOT LEAVE THEM OUT. WE'VE BEEN OUT ALL THE TIME.

ONCE THIS IS DONE IT'S IF WE DON'T DO AS MR. BROWN SAID, LET'S GO AHEAD AND APPROPRIATE THE MONEY SO WHEN IT'S OVER WITH AT LEAST THOSE OF US IN THE COMMUNITY WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET SOME SOMETHING OUT OF THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW ONCE IT'S DONE IT'S OVER.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A DO OVER AND. WE CAN'T COME BACK AND CHANGE IT AND DO IT AGAIN. BUT I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT EVERYBODY'S DONE.

BUT ONCE AGAIN PLEASE LET'S NOT FORGET THE FOLKS STILL ME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR. OKAY, ONE MORE YOU TO SIGN IN TOO, SIR.

YOU KNOW, I'LL TRY TO BE VERY BRIEF ONLY THE SIGN WE HAVE FOR THE RECORD WHAT WE'RE WAITING

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THEY DID A TREMENDOUS JOB TO MAKE THIS LOCATION WORK SO THAT WE COULD DO THIS TOGETHER WITH HILTON HEAD COUNCIL IT'S A UNIQUE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.

MY IS DIETRICH ADVOCATE I LIVE ON HILTON HEAD AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT ONE OF MY FAVORITE SINGERS IS TEDDY SWIMS WHY TEDDY SWIMS BECAUSE HE'S GOT A TATTOO ON HIS FOREHEAD SAYS PATIENCE AND I THINK YOU ALL DESERVE A TATTOO BECAUSE I THINK OVER THE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS DOT UH THE TOWN ADMINISTRATION UH COUNTY COUNCIL, TOWN COUNCIL IT'S BEEN A IT'S QUITE A ROAD THAT. WE HAVE TRAVELED UPS AND DOWNS BUT I THINK THAT'S UH, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A POSITIVE LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND I THINK THIS PROJECT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE TO INSPIRE OTHERS TO INSPIRE THE PEOPLE IN THE TOWN, THE DEMONSTRATION ITSELF AND TO REALLY LEVEL UP AND I, I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE UH THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED. SO FOR INSTANCE UH THE ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC SYSTEM WAS INSTALLED IT'S NOT FULLY ADAPTIVE BUT IT'S SEMI ADAPTIVE THAT SYSTEM ALSO NEEDS TO RUN DOWN THE MAINLAND DOWN TO 95 AND THAT'S MORE OF A COUNTY JOB.

IT IS NOT A VERY COSTLY THING TO DO. UH THE EPA REIMBURSES 80% OF SUCH A PROJECT AND. ONCE WE GET THE TRAFFIC GOING IT WILL STOP ON THE MAINLAND BECAUSE THE LIGHTS ARE NOT IN SYNC WITH THE ISLAND LIGHTS. SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A COUNTY JOB AND I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT IF THE COUNTY COULD LOOK INTO THAT.

THE OTHER THING WHERE WE CAN LEVEL UP IS UH WITH THE ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC SYSTEM WE COLLECT A LOT OF DATA AND BIG DATA BIG DATA CAN BE USED YOU CAN IDENTIFY IT CRITICAL UH PARTS OF 278 WHERE ACCIDENTS HAPPEN MORE FREQUENTLY YOU CAN PUT EMERGENCY SERVICE UH INTO THAT WHOLE UH UH SCENERY AND REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS .

THERE'S ALSO OTHER WAYS TO IMPROVE SAFETY WHICH IS BY PLACING CHEVROLETS AND DOING OTHER THINGS THAT WILL THAT WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS 80% OF ACCIDENTS HAPPENED BECAUSE PEOPLE DRIVE TOO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER THEN I THINK WHAT WE SHOULDN'T LOSE SIGHT OF ARE THE SHORT TERM UH SOLUTIONS THAT WE ARE FACED WITH.

ONE IS THE WINDMILL HARBOR LIGHTS. THE SECOND IS THE MERGE FROM THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY ONTO TO 78 WESTBOUND TO WHERE IT ORIGINALLY WAS TWO LANES YOU CAN CONTINUE THAT WITH TWO LANES. UM AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD THANK YOU SIR AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE FOR STAFF TO HAVE ANY LAST WORDS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SAY FROM EITHER THE TOWN OR THE COUNTY FROM DOTTIE I'LL START I'LL START.

UM, AND I WON'T ADDRESS THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS BUT ONE SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE PUBLIC. MR. CLIFF ALWAYS GREAT COMMENTS.

UM, SO THERE WILL BE AS PART OF THIS PROJECT IT IS A FEDERALIZED WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE NEPA THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION PROCESS AND WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THAT THIS THIS IS PART OF THAT PROCESS AS RESULT IF THIS PROJECT GETS REDEFINED AND IS SCALED WE WILL HAVE TO REDO PORTIONS OF THAT NEPA. WE DON'T HAVE TO START OVER BUT WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH FEDERAL HIGHWAY DOT WILL LEAD ON THAT TO WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING WHERE WE WILL SHARE THE REVISE OR PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE AS AS DIRECTED AND THAT PROCESS WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME WE'RE ENVISIONING THAT THAT PROCESS OVERALL IS PROBABLY NINE MONTHS SO WE WILL WORK THAT PROCESS DOT WILL COORDINATE WITH FEDERAL HIGHWAY ONCE WE GET THAT WE WILL NEED THE GO AHEAD FROM FEDERAL HIGHWAY TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION BUT ALL IN ALL AS REFERENCED BEFORE THE NOTES GO IN INTENTION IS TO HAVE A PROJECT UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN 2027 OR OUT TO BID BY 2027. AND EVEN WITH THAT UM MODIFICATION OF THE NEPA THEY FEEL THAT WE CAN STILL DELIVER ON THAT DATE PROBABLY IN LATTER PART OF 2027.

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THERE'S NOTHING MORE I CAN ADD THERE. I'LL WORK WITH WITH THE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS MAYOR PERRY TO SCHEDULE THE AGENDA ITEM AND ALSO WITH MR. MOORE TO REFINE THE RESOLUTION. I THINK THERE'S GOING BE SOME EDITS ON OUR END.

I I'LL BE SO BOLD TO SAY I ANTICIPATE SENDING SOME EDITS TO WHAT I'VE SEEN TONIGHT REALLY BASED UPON STONY BUT ALSO BASED UPON SOME OTHER OF THE LOGISTICS.

SO UM, STAY TUNED AND I'LL, I'LL CLOSELY WITH MR. MOORE AS WE HAPPEN SO THANK YOU.

BUT YOU KNOW MR. MOORE, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANKS TO THE TOWN MARK AND YOUR STAFF AS WELL AND THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND I THINK AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, THANKS TO THE STAFF WHO'S PUT THIS TOGETHER TONIGHT TO SUPPORT THIS MEETING AND THANKS TO THE PUBLIC AND TO BOTH COUNCILS FOR ALL THE DISCUSSION ,I'D LIKE TO THANK SOUTH CAROLINA DOTTIE AGAIN FOR BEING HERE. ANSWER QUESTIONS. WE'RE GLAD YOU LIKE COMING TO COUNTY BECAUSE WE NEED YOU HERE SO ALL RIGHT NOW NO I. I GOT 30 SECONDS TO TO SAY SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON MY MIND FOR THREE WEEKS. I WENT TO THE SIDOTI MEETING AND FOR THE FIRST TIME I SAW THAT DESIGN OPTION ONE AND I'VE TRIED I MEAN I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED BUT I'VE TRIED SO, SO MANY TIMES AND EVERY DAY IT GIVES ME A HEARTBURN THINKING ABOUT NOT THAT BRIDGE ON ON ISLAND FOR THE BOAT RAMP AND BEING ME I, I CAN'T GET THAT OUT OF MY MIND CAUSE FOR THE NEXT 30 TO 35 YEARS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOOK BACK AND ASK WHY DID YOU NOT LAND THAT BRIDGE AND WHY DO YOU HAVE THREE BRIDGES GOING OFF THE ISLAND FOR 35 YEARS WHERE WE COULD HAVE TORN DOWN THAT EAST BOUND SECTION AND I CAN'T GET IT OUT OF MY MIND SO AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT BOTHERS ANYONE ELSE.

I THINK THAT SAID HEY THANK FOR THAT LAST COMMENT NO OTHER BUSINESS FROM OUR WE ARE ADJOURNED AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PUBLIC THAT SHOWED UP GREAT TURNOUT

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