* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:31] ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. BEFORE WE GO ON TO, UH, APPROVAL AGENDA, I JUST WANNA MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS AS THE, THE, THE NEW GUY, NICK, NEW GUY, TAKING OVER. UH, I JUST WANNA PUT IT OUT THERE AT LEAST TO THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE LISTENING. UH, AND THE, THE NEW BOARD MEMBER THAT'S HERE, UM, I BELIEVE, UH, AS THE CHAIR THAT THE, THE COMMITTEE'S JOB IS ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD. UH, AND OUR JOB IS TO, TO FERRET OUT ANYTHING YOU CAN REPRESENTING THE BOARD, UH, AND DO ALL THE LEGWORK SO THAT WE CAN BRING IT TO THE BOARD, UH, AS LITTLE ACTION, UH, NEEDS TO BE COVERED BY THE FULL BOARD. UH, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS AND DONE ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE COMMITTEE BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO THE BOARD. UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE BOARD, UH, AGAIN, FOR OUR, FOR OUR NEW, UH, OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS IS OVERSIGHT. UH, OUR JOB IS NOT TO TELL OPERATIONS OR ANYBODY ELSE WHAT TO DO. OUR JOB IS TO, IT IS FOR OVERSIGHT. AND THEN IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE, WE'LL TAKE IT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT. THE SUPERINTENDENT GIVES THEM DIRECTION AS TO WHAT TO DO. OUR, OUR JOB IS OVERSIGHT. UM, WE ARE A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, AND THAT MEANS SOMETHING. UH, SO POLICY AND PROCEDURE AND DECORUM STILL APPLY. UM, PLEASE WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED. UM, PLEASE DO NOT INTERRUPT SPEAKERS. UH, AND, UH, BEFORE YOU SPEAK A SECOND TIME, I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS, ESPECIALLY DIFFERENT COMMENTS, UH, BEFORE A A SECOND OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO SPEAK IS GIVEN. AND THEN, UH, MY BIGGEST PET PEEVE IS DILATORY COMMENTS. UH, A DILATORY COMMENT, UH, IS A TIME WASTING COMMENT TO BASICALLY SAY, I AGREE WITH THAT PERSON. THAT'S, THAT'S A DILATORY COMMENT. WE, UH, EVERYBODY'S GONNA KNOW BY THE WAY YOU VOTE, UH, WHAT YOUR, HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT SOMETHING. UM, BUT ALL THAT BEING SAID, UM, UM, I ASKED, UH, TO PLEASE DO THE PRE-READ. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE PRE-READ. YOU'RE, I KNOW HOW MUCH EXPERIENCE YOU HAVE, UH, IN OPERATIONS. UH, BUT PLEASE DO THE PRE-READ, THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A LOT OF GAPS IN KNOWLEDGE. UH, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF GAPS TO MY KNOWLEDGE 'CAUSE I'VE ONLY BEEN DOING THIS FOR TWO YEARS. UH, SO THERE'S A LOT OF GAPS, HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE, AND WHY BE TWO THINGS. WE'RE STILL COVERING THE 2019 REFERENDUM, AND I WASN'T EVEN LIVING IN SOUTH CAROLINA AT THAT POINT. UH, SO THERE'S, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF GAPS IN KNOWLEDGE, BUT THE MORE OF THE PRE-READ THAT YOU DO, UH, THE MORE THOSE, UH, GAPS GET FILLED IN. AND THEN OVER TIME YOU'LL START TO PIECE TOGETHER THE PUZZLES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. UH, ALRIGHT, ON TO THE FIRST, UH, ORDER OF BUSINESS. PUB COMMENTS. ARE THERE, OH, I'M SORRY. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? I, WHERE DAVID CAN MAKE THE MOTION? NO. SAY I, I, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. IS THERE A SECOND? MR. CARR? SECOND MOTION IS, UH, MADE. AND SECOND END. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. RECORDING. PROGRESS. PROGRESS. OKAY, NOW WE'RE RECORDING. UH, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. UH, NEXT DOOR TO BUSINESS APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 4TH. COMMITTEE MEETING, MEETING MINUTES. UH, IS THERE A MOTION? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. MOTION IS MADE AND SECONDED. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT. UH, ONTO THE NEXT OE 16, UH, FOIA REPORT. GREAT. OKAY. SO FOR OE 16, UM, AND 16.2 FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER FOIA REPORT AND THE 2024, UH, ANNUAL FOIA REPORT. UM, HERE'S A FEW, UH, KEY HIGHLIGHTS. IN 2024, WE HAD A LITTLE MORE THAN NINE REQUESTS, UH, 93 TO BE EXACT. IN 2023, WE HAD AROUND 140 REQUESTS. UM, I THINK WE SAW THIS, UH, WE ATTRIBUTE THIS DECLINE TO, IN 2023, WE HAD THE LIBRARY MATERIALS, UH, CHALLENGES GOING ON AT THAT TIME. UM, THIS PAST AUGUST, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER IN 2024, WE RECEIVED THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF REQUESTS. UM, THERE WERE 12 IN EACH OF THOSE MONTHS. UM, APRIL, WE HAD 15 REQUESTS. THE MAJORITY WERE FROM THREE REPEAT REQUESTERS, UH, TOTALING 12 COMBINED. MANY OF THE REQUESTS THIS PAST YEAR, UH, WERE ABOUT RFPS, UM, AND INVOLVED EMAIL POLLS ALSO. SO WE DID WANNA GIVE, UM, MOLLY GODLEY AND I, UM, MOLLY AND I WORK ON FOYA TOGETHER, [00:05:01] ALONG WITH MS. CARTILAGE. WE WANTED TO GIVE A THANK YOU TO PROCUREMENT FOR PULLING DOCUMENTS FOR THE RFPS, AND TO I, UM, IT FOR HELPING FOLD THE EMAILS. HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAS, ANYBODY PRESENT QUESTIONS? MR. GUYER, MR. CAR, ANY QUESTIONS? NONE. ALL RIGHTY. YOU CAN EITHER MOVE IT TO CONSENT AGENDA, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING AND, UH, NOT PUT IT ON CONSENT AGENDA. SO, MOVE TO PUT TO A CON A CONSENT AGENDA. IF THAT'S, IF YOU ALL ARE IN TOTAL, IF THE, IF THE COMMITTEE IS IN FULL AGREEMENTS, YOU CAN MOVE IT TO CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE TO A CONSENT AGENDA? I MOVE THE MOTION . SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. MOVED. SECONDED. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. MS. GROUP. SO OE 16, UM, WILL BE MOVED TO CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE FULL BOARD YES. ON THE CUSTODIAL MAINTENANCE REPORT. THANK YOU, DR. THANK BRANDY MAJORS WILL BE PRESENTING THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO TONIGHT FOR YOU, WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, FIRST OFF, I JUST WANNA SAY WELCOME ABOARD . IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU AT THE CHAIR OF THE . UM, MR. NA, UM, ANOTHER FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS AND BOARD MEMBERS WELCOME A BOARD. THANK YOU. SO, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE DURING THE PRESENTATION. UM, THIS REPORT WE DO MONTHLY. IT'S TWOFOLD. FIRST SECTION IS GONNA BE CUSTODIAL MONTHLY REPORT. THE SECOND SECTION IS GOING TO BE MAINTENANCE. UH, I'LL GO THROUGH IT RATHER QUICKLY. I'LL TAKE A BREAK AFTER THE CUSTODIAL REPORT FOR QUESTIONS. AND THEN AT THE END, UH, WE'LL, WE CAN HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MAINTENANCE. OKAY. UM, YEAH, SIR, IF YOU, ON THIS PARTICULAR MEETING, CAN YOU TAKE A LITTLE EXTRA TIME AND EXPLAIN THE GRAPHS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL FOR OUR NEW NEIGHBORS? WELL, AND THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS REPORT, IT LEADS INTO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO. THIS IS GONNA BE OUR FIRST CUSTODIAL REPORT THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY REPORTING DATA ON ALL THREE VENDORS. UM, SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DID SOMETHING PRETTY, PRETTY UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT, UM, WITH OUR CUSTODIAL SOLICITATION THIS TIME AROUND. AND INSTEAD OF SELECTING ONE VENDOR, WE, WE CHOSE THREE VENDORS. SO THOSE THREE VENDORS ARE FINE. THEY HAVE TWO GROUPS PER VENDOR. UM, AND SO THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR FIRST REPORT WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT DATA, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE STAFFING, UM, METRIC THAT WE PUT IN PLACE. THIS IS THE FIRST REPORT. WE'RE ACTUALLY STARTING TO LOOK AT INSPECTION INFORMATION FOR ALL THREE VENDORS. SO I WILL ACTUALLY GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. THIS FIRST PAGE YOU'RE GONNA SEE ARE OUR JANUARY INSPECTIONS. SO WE STARTED, UM, OUR INSPECTION PROGRAM, UM, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST. SO THESE ARE RESULTS AS OF THE MONTH OF JANUARY, UH, THE FIRST 90 DAYS WHEN THE, UH, CUSTODIAL CONTRACTORS CAME ON BOARD, THEY STARTED OCTOBER 1ST. AND SO THOSE FIRST 90 DAYS WITH IMPLEMENTATION TIMEFRAME, WE WERE TRYING TO GET SYSTEMS IN PLACE, THE PREVIOUS VENDOR OUT, THE VENDORS IN. SO JANUARY'S OUR FIRST MONTH THAT WE'RE GONNA CREATE OUR BASELINE DATA. AND THEN WE'RE JUST GONNA MOVE ON FROM THERE. AND WE'RE GONNA START, YOU'RE, YOU'LL START TO SEE IN THE COMING MONTHS HISTORICAL TRENDS OF HOW WE'RE TRACKING, UH, WITH THIS INFORMATION. UM, THE INSPECTION INFORMATION FOR, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE CREATED OUR OWN CUSTODIAL INSPECTION FORM. SO NOW WITH THIS CUSTODIAL CONTRACT, WE HAVE OUR OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT STAFF DOING CUSTODIAL INSPECTIONS, AND WE HAVE SCHOOL PRINCIPALS DOING CUSTODIAL INSPECTIONS, AND WE HAVE THEIR DESIGNEES. SO EVERY SCHOOL PRINCIPAL HAS ACCESS TO THESE CUSTODIAL INSPECTIONS, AND THEY WERE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO ELECT ONE DESIGNEE AT THEIR SCHOOL. SO THESE ARE INSPECTION RESULTS THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE, UM, DISTRICT OPERATIONS INSPECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED BY OUR STAFF AS WELL AS SCHOOL PRINCIPALS AND THEIR DESIGNEES. THERE'S TWO SETS OF DATA HERE. THE FIRST SET ARE OUR INSPECTION SCORES AND OUR AVERAGES OVERALL FROM THE DISTRICT AND SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS. AND THEN THE SECOND SET OF INSPECTION SCORES ARE WHAT THE VENDORS ARE DOING FOR THEIR OWN INSPECTIONS. SO WE'LL TAKE THIS CENTER GRAPH WHERE IT SAYS VENDOR VERSUS BCSD AVERAGE SCORE. [00:10:02] YOU'LL SEE THE SPECKER, THE, LIKE THE SPECKLED BAR, THE 90% TO 82%. THAT 90% IS GONNA BE WHAT THE VENDOR'S AVERAGE IS FOR INSPECTIONS NORTH OF ABROAD. AND YOU SEE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S INSPECTION FORM IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN 82% ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THIS CHART. IN THE MIDDLE, YOU'LL SEE VENDOR INSPECTIONS, TOTAL 373. THE BLUE, UM, NUMBER IS GOING TO BE NORTH OF BROAD. THE GOLD NUMBER IS GOING TO BE SOUTH OF THE BROAD. ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS CENTER CHART, YOU'LL SEE BCSD INSPECTIONS. SO WE DID 112 DISTRICT WIDE. WE DID, UH, 95 NORTH OF BROAD AND 57 SOUTH OF BROAD 55, SORRY, WHERE ALL 55 NORTH OF BROAD AND 57 SOUTH OF BROAD FOR A TOTAL OF ONE 12. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT CENTER CHART. YOU'VE GOT NORTH OF BROAD, THEN YOU HAVE SOUTH OF BROAD, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT OUR OVERALL DISTRICT TOTAL. SO OUR OVERALL DISTRICT TOTAL STILL WE'RE AT 83%. OUR INSPECTIONS, THE VENDORS' INSPECTIONS AVERAGE THAT 91%. SO OBVIOUSLY THAT TELLS YOU WE'RE, WE'RE RATING THEM PRETTY HARSHLY. . UM, WE, WE ARE, WE ARE, UH, DEFINITELY HOLDING THEM TO THE FIRE ON THAT. AS YOU GO DOWN THE PAGE, YOU'LL SEE SCHOOL INSPECTED. WE INSPECTED 20 SCHOOLS. UH, OVERALL THERE WERE 60 OUT OF OUR 112 INSPECTIONS THAT BCSD, THERE WERE 60 THAT FELL BELOW OUR 88% MARK. SO IN OUR CONTRACT, IN OUR, OUR GOAL THAT WE WANNA HIT FOR OUR INSPECTIONS ARE 88%. IF A SCORE HITS BELOW AN 88%, THEN THAT SPACE IS TO BE REINSPECTED. SO OUT OF OUR 112 BCSD INSPECTION, 60 OF THOSE WERE UNDER AN 88%. MOVING TO THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE OPERATIONS STAFF COMPLETED 59 INSPECTIONS, AND THEN ADMINISTRATIVE INSPECTIONS AT 53. THAT IS OUR SCHOOL PRINCIPALS AND THEIR DESIGNEE. MOVING DOWN THE PAGE, WHAT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU IS YOUR HIGHEST AVERAGE AND YOUR LOWEST AVERAGE. THESE AVERAGES ARE TAKEN FROM OUR BCSD INSPECTIONS, NOT THE VENDOR'S INSPECTIONS. OKAY. SO YOU SEE GOING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, WE GAVE YOU AN AREA THAT HAS THE HIGHEST AVERAGE AND A LOWEST AVERAGE. AND THEN MOVING ACROSS THE PAGE, YOU HAVE YOUR HIGHEST AND LOWEST AVERAGE FOR A BM, FOR BUD GROUP, AND FOR INTERSTATE. THOSE ARE OUR THREE VENDORS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT INFORMATION BEFORE I MOVE TO THE NEXT PAGE? AND AGAIN, I WANNA PREFACE THIS AND SAY, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'RE DOING THIS FORMAT WITH THESE THREE VENDORS. AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS IN THE COMING MONTHS. AND EVEN TODAY, IF THERE, IF THERE'S ANY FEEDBACK, IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT WE'RE NOT SHOWING, ESPECIALLY ONCE WE START TO TALK ABOUT HISTORICAL TRENDS, PLEASE, THIS IS WHERE WE WANNA GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM, FROM YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS. I JUST LET SOMEONE IN ON THE IPHONE, IF YOU ARE ARE ATTENDING ON AN IPHONE, CAN YOU PLEASE LET YOURSELF BE KNOWN? HEY, IT'S INGRID. SORRY. I'LL TRY AND CHANGE MY NAME. I CAN CHANGE IT FOR YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. ALLRIGHT. I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. MR. CARR, GO AHEAD. YEAH, YOU JUST, WHERE IT SAYS AREA A, BM, BUDD AND INTERSTATE, THAT'S NEW TO ME. COULD YOU JUST SPELL THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT? THOSE THREE ARE OUR THREE VENDORS THAT, UH, HAVE, UH, SPLIT UP THE, THE AREAS OF, OF THE DISTRICT. SO WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT VENDORS FOR CUSTODIAL NOW. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. THAT, THAT HELPS. THANKS. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SECOND PAGE. SO OUR SECOND PAGE WE'RE SHOWING, WE'VE SHOWN THIS SINCE, UH, NOVEMBER, IS OUR STAFFING PERCENTAGES FOR EACH VENDOR. SO PART OF THE CONTRACT IS THAT THE VENDOR IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN AN OVERALL STAFFING PERCENTAGE OF 90% OR HIGHER. IF THEY FALL BELOW THAT 90%, THEN THERE IS A PENALTY STRUCTURE, UM, THAT THEY ARE HELD TO, UM, FROM A MONETARY STANDPOINT. SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE'VE GOT A THREE MONTH TREND. WE'VE GOT A BM, THE BUD GROUP AND INTERSTATE. YOUR RED ARE GOING TO BE PERCENTAGES THAT ARE 80% ARE BELOW, UM, AND THEN 81 TO, UM, 90%. UM, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE YELLOW. THOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS. RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT TWO SCHOOLS, UM, ON THE A BM SIDE THAT WE ARE SEEING TRACKING, UH, IN THAT RED, UM, IN THAT RED AREA. SO WE'RE OBVIOUSLY [00:15:01] GONNA HAVE CONVERSATIONS IN THE COMING MONTHS THAT HOW WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS ELIMINATING THOSE STAFFING CONCERNS. WE WILL CONTINUE TO SHOW THIS INFORMATION IN THIS FORMAT, AND YOU'LL SEE IT BASED ON A THREE MONTH, UM, HISTORIC. SO MOVING DOWN THIS PAGE, WE SEE OUR CUSTODIAL DEFICIENCIES. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE REPORTING THIS GRAPHIC, UH, PART OF THE CUSTODIAL CONTRACT. WE PUT IN SET PARAMETERS TO HOLD OUR CUSTODIAL VENDORS ACCOUNTABLE. UM, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES I WOULD SAY IS IF THEY FAIL AN INSPECTION AND WE HAVE TO GO BACK OUT AND REINSPECT THAT SPACE, IF THEY FAIL A SECOND INSPECTION IN THAT SPACE, THEN THEY ARE GIVEN A PENALTY. THAT PENALTY MEANS DOLLARS BACK IN OUR POCKETS WHEN THEY GO TO SUBMIT THEIR BILLING EVERY MONTH. OKAY. SO WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU FOR, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE EFFECTIVE AS OF JANUARY, AND WE DIDN'T START THESE UNTIL JANUARY. SO FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY, WE HAD THREE DEFICIENCIES. TWO, YOU'LL SEE UNDER A B, M AND ONE UNDER BUD GROUP. OUR DEFICIENCY CATEGORIES ARE BROKEN INTO FIVE CATEGORIES, INSUFFICIENT STAFFING, NON-COMPLIANCE OF CLEANING, UH, INOPERATIVE EQUIPMENT, SUMMER CLEANUP, AND MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES. IN THESE TWO SCENARIOS, A BM HAD TWO FAILED CONCURRENT INSPECTIONS THAT HIT BELOW 88%, WHICH CAUSED THEM TO HAVE PENALTIES. SO THAT'S MONEY BACK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THEN WE HAD, UH, THE BUD GROUP HAD ONE PENALTY BASED ON, UM, A FURNISHING IN A CLASSROOM THAT WAS DAMAGED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE CUSTODIAL SPILL CLEANER IN THE ROOM AND IT DAMAGED THE RUG. SO WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE, WE TOOK PICTURES. WE, UM, GOT THE INFORMATION WE NEEDED TO, TO REPORT THAT THE VENDOR AND THE VENDOR'S GOING TO MAKE RESTITUTION AND REPLACE THAT, THAT CARPET. UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT AT THEIR COST. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO REPORT. UM, ON THESE BELOW THIS DEFICIENCY CHART, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU JUST THE GENERAL STRUCTURE OF WHAT WE HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO. WHEN IT COMES TO PENALTIES, YOU SEE THE INSUFFICIENT STAFFING, THE NON-COMPLIANCE TO CLEANING, UH, THE INOPERATIVE EQUIPMENT, SUMMER CLEANUP, AND MISCELLANEOUS USE. THIS IS ALL SPECIFIC VERBIAGE FROM THE CONTRACT THAT SHOWS, UM, WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE WHEN WE LOOK AT PENALIZING THEM DEFICIENCIES, WE DO HAVE DEFICIENCY FORMS THAT WE CREATED AS PART OF THE CUSTODIAL PACKET. THOSE DEFICIENCY FORMS ARE COMPLETED BY SCHOOL PRINCIPALS AND THEIR DESIGNEES. SO THE SAME INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMPLETING INFECTION FORMS FOR US ARE COMPLETING DEFICIENCY FORMS. DISTRICT OPERATIONS STAFF ARE COMPLETING DIS DEFICIENCY FORMS AS WELL. UM, AND YOU KNOW, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I GET AN EMAIL THAT COMES IN LIKE I DID WITH THE RUG WHERE SCHOOL REPORTS IT, I INVESTIGATE IT, I MEET WITH THE DISTRICT MANAGER FOR THE CUSTODIAL VENDOR, WE LOOK INTO IT, THEN WE FILL OUT A DEFICIENCY FORM, THEN THAT DEFICIENCY FORM TURNS INTO A PENALTY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEFICIENCY SECTION? UM, AS FAR AS YOUR REPORTING, CAN YOU MAYBE EXPAND, UH, FOR OUR, OUR NEW MEMBERS, UM, WHAT THE TIMELINE FOR DEFICIENCY CORRECTION IS? SO IT DEPENDS WHAT IT IS. SO IF A DEFICIENCY IS REPORTED FOR, UM, LET'S SAY AN INSPECTION, THEY HAVE 24 HOURS. I'LL GIVE YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY FILL AN INSPECTION, THE INITIAL INSPECTION IS BELOW AN 88%. THE VENDOR HAS 24 HOURS TO THEN CORRECT THAT DEFICIENCY IN THAT INSPECTION BEFORE WE GO BACK. AND REINSPECT, IF UPON REINSPECTION THAT DEFICIENCY IS NOT CORRECTED, THEN THEY GET A DEFICIENCY REPORT FILED AGAINST THEM, WHICH EQUALS THE PENALTY. WHAT ABOUT STAFFING? UH, OBVIOUSLY WE GOT A, BM HAS HAD SOME PROBLEMS, , RIGHT? SO STAFFING WE ARE WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. SO STAFFING, UM, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THEIR STAFFING PLANS IN OUR GOOGLE, UH, REPOSITORY. WE HAVE A LARGE GOOGLE CUSTODIAL REPOSITORY THAT HAS EVERY INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL'S INFORMATION IN IT. UM, SO THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THEIR STAFFING PLANS IN THAT GOOGLE DRIVE. UM, MY TASK IN THE COMING MONTHS IS GOING TO BE HOW TO DISTRICT-WIDE, UM, OR ME PERSONALLY, HOW DO I GET THEIR PAYROLL RECORDS AND HOW DO WE CLOSE THE LOOP ON PROCESSING STAFFING PENALTIES? RIGHT NOW, IT'S VERY VISUALLY PRESENT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN RED, ESPECIALLY THE SPECIFIC ONE FOR A BM. SO WE'RE GONNA FINALIZE THAT PRO PROCESS TO SEE, RIGHT NOW I HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THEIR PAYROLL RECORDS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO VET FROM A DISTRICT LEVEL TO THEN, UM, COMPLETE [00:20:01] THOSE DEFICIENCY FORMS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT DEFICIENCIES? I WOULD JUST NOTE IF YOU WOULD NOTE THAT THE INSUFFICIENT STAFFING IS OVERALL FOR THEIR ENTIRE AREA HAS TO BE ABOVE 90%. SO IT'S NOT BASED ON AN INDIVIDUAL. OH, OKAY. WELL, SO LIKE A BM HAS A OVERALL STAFFING OF 94%, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE GOT TWO DEFICIENT AREAS. SO THEY'RE ABOVE 90, THEY FALL BELOW 90, THEN THEY GET THE PENALTY SUPPLY. GOTCHA. OKAY. MM-HMM . THAT MAKES SENSE THEN. MR. WELL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION IN TERMS OF, UH, ABOUT STAFFING AND, AND EVEN, UH, JUST, UH, CORRELATES TO, TO THE, UH, TO THE PLAN IN TERMS OF, UM, UM, A COUPLE OF CUSTODIANS WAS TELLING ME THAT, UH, ONE LADY SAID, I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT SHE WAS HAVING, UH, UH, WAS THINKING ABOUT HAVING SURGERY, BUT THEN, UH, WHAT SHE REALIZED IS THAT SHE, ONE OF THE COMPANIES IS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE, UM, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE LIKE, UH, DAYS. UH, UH, UH, THEY DON'T HAVE DAYS LIKE WHERE THEY CAN, UM, IN TERMS OF INSURANCE TO WHERE, WHERE, WHERE THEY HAVE, UH, OH MY GOD, SICK LEAVE. SICK LEAVE. THEY DON'T HAVE, RIGHT, THEY DON'T HAVE SICK LEAVE DAYS OR DAYS. THEY'RE HAVING A SURGERY OR SOMETHING TO, UH, TO KICK IN. AND, AND, AND, UM, GUY, GUY ALSO TOLD ME THAT, THAT THAT WAS AN ISSUE FOR HIM, FOR HIM AS WELL. AND I WAS THINKING THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO KEEP WHAT THE CURRENT, UH, WHAT WHAT WE HAD CURRENTLY HAD HAD OFFERED HIM. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A PART OF THE CONTRACT. UH, WHEN WE, UH, THESE, WHEN WE PUT OUT THOSE, UM, THOSE, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT NOW WHEN THE LADY COMES AND SPEAK TO US, THE SOLICITATION, RFP, THE RRFP, THE, THE R, THE RFPS. AND SO, UM, CAN YOU, UH, SPEAK TO THAT? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT, AND I CAN GET YOU THOSE SPECIFICS AND BRING THOSE TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. THERE IS SPECIFIC, UH, LANGUAGE AND CUSTODIAL SOLICITATION THAT THE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD A REQUIRED MINIMUM, UH, MINIMUM PROBATIONARY PERIOD TIMEFRAME, AS WELL AS MINIMUM BENEFIT STRUCTURE FOR EACH COMPANY. AND WE, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK. UM, SPEAKING WITH THE PREVIOUS CUSTODIAL VENDOR, WHICH WAS HES, UM, THEY DID ADVISE ME THAT THEY PAID, YOU KNOW, IF EMPLOYEES HAD, UH, REMAINING SICK AND VACATION TIME, THOSE EMPLOYEES WERE PAID OUT THAT, THAT, THAT, UM, THAT LEAVE, UM, UPON LEAVING OUR, YOU KNOW, BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, AS FAR AS, UM, STARTING OVER WHEN THE NEW CONTRACT STARTED OVER, THOSE EMPLOYEES STARTED OVER FROM A BENEFIT IN A SERVICE TIMEFRAME WITH THE NEW VENDORS, 90 DAYS, THEY HAD TO HAVE THINGS KICK IN WITHIN 90 DAYS. IS THAT RIGHT? I'M GONNA, I, I WANNA LOOK, I WANNA LOOK TO BE SURE. 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA SAY ANYTHING THAT'S NOT DIRECTLY STATED IN THE SOLICITATION, RIGHT? YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST A, A CONCERN OF, UH, WE'VE HAD STAFF WHO'S BEEN WITH THE DISTRICT FOR YEARS, AND THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY, GOD FORBID THEY BLOCK THEIR KNEE OR SOMETHING, OR THEY HAVE TYPE SURGERY THEY NEED AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY DAY, ANY DAY, ANY DAYS. THAT IS DEFINITELY A, A A, A A CONCERN. A CONCERN. AND I CAN, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO INCLUDE THAT THEN REPORT, I'LL JUST PUT A BENEFITS SECTION IN THERE THAT CLEARLY STATES WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT REQUIRED AS A MINIMUM, UM, FOR BENEFITS AS FAR AS PROBATIONARY PERIOD AND BENEFITS WITH LEAD STRUCTURE. AND, UH, AND, AND IT, WELL, AND, AND IF YOU COULD, UH, IF IT'S NOT TOO MUCH, ALSO COULD, COULD WE ALSO FIND OUT WHAT WE ALSO, WHAT WE, UM, COULD, CAN WE, CAN WE COMPARE THAT, UH, UH, CAN WE HAVE A SAMPLE OF WHAT WE OFFER OUR CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES AS WELL? JUST, JUST, JUST SO WE CAN KIND OF JUST, JUST SO FOR ME, OR IF YOU WANT ME TO, I CAN, I CAN. I, I CAN, I CAN, I GUESS I COULD ASK FOR THAT, BUT I MEAN, BUT IF, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE TIME, IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD DO IT. BUT I, I CAN ASK FOR THAT TOO AS WELL. WE CAN'T GET THAT , WE CAN'T GET THAT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING TO ROBERT JUST SAYING. CAN WE GET THAT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. WE SHOULD. OKAY. SO, UM, FOR THE PENALTY STRUCTURE DATA, I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET MORE, THIS IS JUST GONNA GET MORE AND MORE GRANULAR AS WE GET INTO IT, UM, AS PENALTIES ARE ASSESSED AND AS WE FINALIZE OUR PROCESS. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PAGE, WHICH IS OUR CUSTODIAL UPDATE. SO THIS IS OUR PART IN THE REPORT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RECOGNIZING SUCCESS. UM, SO AS ROBERT STATED, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT STAFFING, UH, PART THAT WE HAD REFERRED TO PREVIOUSLY, ALL THREE VENDORS, OVERALL STAFFING PLAN WAS GREATER THAN 90%. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO WANT TO SEE, UM, CONTINUING AS WELL AS WE'LL [00:25:01] FOCUS ON THOSE SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF RED. UM, WE DID GET THE GOOGLE DRIVE, UM, UP AND RUNNING. IT LAUNCHED JANUARY 1ST. UM, WE WENT THROUGH OUR 90 DAY TESTING PHASE. AND, UH, OUR DISTRICT OPERATIONS STAFF, I JUST WANNA GIVE THEM KUDOS. SO WE, WE, THE MONTH OF JANUARY WAS BUSY BECAUSE AS ALL THE SCHOOLS CAME ONLINE AND STARTED GETTING INTO THESE FOLDER STRUCTURES AND DOING THESE INSPECTION REPORTS AND DEFICIENCIES, IT WAS REALLY A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF, UM, SUPPORT IN THE BACKGROUND. SO I'M HAPPY TO REPORT WE DID VERY WELL WITH THAT. UM, WE ALSO, IN JANUARY CON CONDUCTED OUR CLIENT BUSINESS REVIEW. SO WE DO THAT THREE TIMES A YEAR WITH EACH ONE OF OUR CONTRACTED SERVICE PROVIDERS. WE DO IT IN THE, UM, SPRING, SUMMER, AND FALL. WE DID THIS ONE A LITTLE EARLY, UH, EARLIER THAN WE NORMALLY DO, JUST BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SEE HOW WELL WE WERE DOING AFTER OUR 90 DAY IMPLEMENTATION PERIOD. SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUR CLIENT BUSINESS REVIEW DONE WITH THE BUD GROUP. AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, OUR REMAINING TEAM WITH A BM AND INTERSTATE SCHEDULED IN FEBRUARY. UM, YOU'LL SEE AS YOU, AS WE SCROLL THROUGH THE REPORT, WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL SUMMER PLAN. UM, ALL THREE VENDORS HAD STAFF IN THE BUILDING. WE WERE, UM, DOING, UH, YOU KNOW, WINTER PLAN, I'M SORRY, THANK YOU. WINTER CLEAN. WE WERE DOING FLOORING WORK. UM, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DID A LOT OF EXTERIOR PRESSURE WASHING. UH, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, UM, ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS INTERSTATE HAD ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS FOR THEIR STAFF THAT LEFT IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FOR, UM, HIGH SCHOOLS. UH, WE ALSO HAD FOR A BM, WE HAD A SCHOOL, UM, GIVE SOME, SOME OF THE KIDS WROTE SOME REALLY NEAT THANK YOU NOTES, UM, TO THEM. UM, AND SO WE HAD A REALLY SUCCESSFUL, UH, WINTER PLAN WITH OUR CUSTODIAL VENDORS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAD SOME REALLY GREAT HIGHLIGHTS FOR, UM, FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DID OVER THE BREAK. SO THIS CONCLUDES THE CUSTODIAL PART OF THE REPORT AND THE, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CUSTODIAL OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WANNA SEE SO I CAN MAKE NOTE OF OTHER THAN WE TALKED ABOUT THE BENEFIT FOR THE NEXT REPORT? YOU GOOD, MR. KERR? ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. NO, PERFECT. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GO INTO MAINTENANCE. MAINTENANCE. WE TRACK OUR WORK ORDERS FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR. SO OUR FISCAL YEAR STARTED JULY ONE, UM, OF 24, AND IT WILL GO THROUGH, UM, JUNE 30. SO, UH, WE START FROM THE TOP OF THE REPORT. WE LIKE TO SHOW YOU THE TOTAL WORK ORDERS, UM, TO DATE, UM, IN THAT FIRST, UM, IN THAT FIRST GRAPHIC THAT YOU HAVE THERE. SO 16,228 WORK ORDERS SUBMITTED TO DATE. UM, AND THEN WE'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU THE GRAPHIC WITH THE MAINTENANCE INITIATED, UH, 6,000 AND THEN WE COMPLETED OF 12,599. UH, WE STILL HAVE FIVE 5,558 WORK ORDERS IN PROGRESS. SO WE'RE STILL WORKING TOWARDS, MAINTENANCE IS STILL WORKING TOWARDS DECREASING THAT BACKLOG, WHICH IS STILL, UM, IT'S PRETTY HIGH. AS YOU GO DOWN THE PAGE, WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU, UM, TOTAL WORK ORDERS REQUESTED AND COMPLETED. UM, WE'RE STILL TRACKING, UM, TO BE, UH, LOW, I WOULD SAY BETWEEN OUR, UM, OUR PM AND OUR NON PM. YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR, WE LIKE TO GIVE YOU OUR, THE LAST THREE MONTHS, AGAIN, THAT HISTORICAL TREND YOU SEE IN PREVIOUS YEARS, WE'RE STILL LOWER, UM, THAN WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR FAR RIGHT, YOU SEE COMPLETED JANUARY, 2024. WE'RE AT 1814. AND IN PREVIOUS YEARS, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR IN 23 WE'RE AT 25, 38. AND IN, UH, 22 WE WERE AT 1967. SO WE ARE STILL WORKING TOWARDS TRYING TO PUSH THROUGH THAT BACKLOG. AND, AND I MEET WITH MAINTENANCE WEEKLY, AND WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WEEKLY. UM, I WANNA MAKE NOTE WITH MAINTENANCE. MAINTENANCE IS GOING OUT BID THIS YEAR. THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT IS A FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT. UM, WE HAVE NO EXTENSIONS LEFT AVAILABLE TO US. OUR CURRENT CONTRACTOR IS A BM, UH, AND THEIR CONTRACT DOES EXPIRE JUNE 30TH. SO IN THE, COMING WITHIN THE NEXT, I WANNA SAY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH, WE SHOULD HAVE OUR, UH, WE HOPE TO HAVE OUR MAINTENANCE SOLICITATION OUT. UM, AND THEN THE NEW VENDOR WOULD COME, THEIR CONTRACT WOULD START JULY 1ST. OKAY. OUR MAINTENANCE INITIATED, YOU CAN SEE THERE AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR NUMBERS, OUR, OUR NUMBERS ARE DOWN. SO WE, WE WANT OUR MAINTENANCE TO STAFF STAFF BE MORE AWARE AND MORE PROACTIVE OUT THERE. [00:30:01] UM, AND, AND THAT WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH THAT. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INFORMATION ON THIS FIRST PAGE BEFORE I MOVE TO THE WORK ORDERS BY KRAFT WINTER? NEXT BLITZ? UH, I, YOU'RE, YEP, YOU'RE WELL BEFORE ME, BUT, SO OUR B LIST THAT WE HAD SCHEDULED FOR, UM, HILTON HEAD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN JANUARY WAS CANCELED BECAUSE WE, UM, HAD A SNOWSTORM IN BEFORD COUNTY. SO, UM, OUR NEXT SPLITS WILL BE IN FEBRUARY AND IT WILL STILL BE AT HILTON HEAD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO WE'LL HAVE THIS ON THE FEBRUARY REPORT. DO YOU THINK THAT THE DECLINE IN WORK ORDERS COMPLETED, UH, HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH A BM? IT APPEARS THEY ALREADY HAVE A, A, A STAFFING PROBLEM. STAFFING IS A PROBLEM, AND THAT'S IN THIS REPORT AS WELL. OKAY. SO WE ARE LOSING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOWN EIGHT STAFF POSITIONS RIGHT NOW. THERE'S 64 STAFF. UM, THEY'RE AT 56 RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, 87, I THINK IT WAS 87.5%, WHICH IS LATER IN THE REPORT. UM, WE'VE NOT STRUGGLED HISTORICALLY WITH STAFFING, WITH MAINTENANCE. WE'VE JUST NOT, WE'VE, THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT HAS, HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN SOLID, UH, WITH OUR ABILITY TO RECRUIT, RECRUIT AND RETAIN POSITIONS. UM, IN THE LAST, I WOULD SAY YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, WE'VE JUST SEEN THE STEADY DECLINE WITH STAFFING. NOT ONLY THE, THEIR ABILITY TO RETAIN, BUT ALSO TO ACQUIRE NEW TALENT. UM, AND SO WE, WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS SIGNIFICANTLY. PART OF IT'S COMING OUT OF COVID. THERE'S BEEN A, A CHANGE IN THE DEMAND AND THE CHANGE IN THE COST FOR THE MAINTENANCE TYPE WORKERS. AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO CATCH UP SINCE THEN. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IS THE NEW CONTRACT WILL GET US AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESET ALL OF THAT. I THINK THERE'S SOME SENIORITIS GOING ON WITH THE, THE CONTRACT BEING ABOUT TO EXPIRE. NO, TYPICALLY YOU SEE A CONTRACTOR PUT THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD AT THE END. I TRULY THINK THAT WE NEED TO EXPECT, AND I'VE TOLD OUR FINANCE TEAM, WHEN THIS GOES OUT TO BID, IT'S GONNA BE A SIGNIFICANT COST INCREASE. I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THE CONTRACT COST IS STILL AT A PRE PANDEMIC LEVEL, AND THE COST FOR THE WORKERS IS POST PANDEMIC. AND THOSE HAVE TO, AND SO WHEN WE GO OUT BID, UM, WHOEVER WINS IT, WE'RE GONNA PAY A LOT MORE THAN WE PAY RIGHT NOW. AND THAT WILL GIVE 'EM THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEVEL OUT THEIR HOURS. MR. SMITH, I, I THINK THAT, UM, WE NEED TO HAVE A BOARD DISCUSSION ON THIS BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO PUT OUT BID. I THINK THAT IT'S TIME THAT WE'VE BRING THESE PEOPLE BACK IN HOUSE BEC BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON, NOT JUST IN, IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, BUT ALSO THESE PEOPLE, THEY WANT SOLID INSURANCE. THEY WANT, WHEN YOU HAVE, WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE, UH, RENTAL PROPERTIES, PLA PLACES THAT ARE MOVING AROUND, YOU HAVE THE AIR STATION, YOU HAVE, UM, THESE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS. WE HAVE OTHER SCHOOLS NOW, WELL, WHO NEED THE SAME, THEY NEED THE SAME WORKERS THAT WE NEED. SO THEREFORE, I'M GONNA GO TO THE PERSON WHO'S GONNA GIMME THE BEST PACKAGE. AND HERE THE DISTRICT, WE CONTROL THE PACKAGE THAT WE GIVE. SO WHY GO OUT AND PUT UP AND GO FOR BID WHEN MAINTENANCE, WE BUY THE TRUCKS. WE BASICALLY OUT BASICALLY OUTFIT THESE MAINTENANCE PEOPLE. SO IF WE ALREADY OUT, OUT OUTFITTING THEM AND WE ALREADY DOING ALL THIS STUFF, THEN WHY SHOULD WE CONTINUE TO PUT, PUT A, PUT A CONTRACT OUT AND ALLOW, SOMEBODY COULD HAVE COME IN AND GET A CONTRACT AND REALLY, BASICALLY MAJORITY OF SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE USING OR THAT THEY NEED, WE ARE PROVIDING. SO, SO THE QUESTION COMES TO ME, YOU KNOW, WHAT REAL, WHAT ARE, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE REALLY, WHAT ARE WE REALLY GIVING UP? AND, AND, AND WHAT ARE WE REALLY, UH, NOT, NOT, NOT NOT BEING, BEING THE WHAT, WHAT BURDEN ARE WE NOT GETTING? SO I I I THINK IT IS WE ONCE, IF YOU BRING 'EM IN HOUSE, AND I THINK THAT THAT BRINGS MORE COMPETITION, I, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A, A QUESTION AROUND IN TERMS OF SHOULD WE EVEN PUT THAT OUT FOR BID? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT THAT OUT FOR BID. I THINK THAT WE, IT'S TIME THAT WE BRING OUR MAINTENANCE, OUR MAINTENANCE AND SOME OF THESE THINGS BACK AND HOUSING PEOPLE THAT OUR WORKERS ARE PEOPLE WHO PAY TAXPAYERS, WHO LIVE, SOME OF WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY'VE BEEN ASKING TO COME BACK IN THERE. AND THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY I'VE TOLD PEOPLE TOLD ME THAT'S WHY THEY LEAVE. WE, WE CAN GO TO S THEY SEND THE BUS ROUTE, WE, WE CAN GO AND GET, AND GET AND GET BETTER, UH, BETTER. WE, WE CAN GO AND GET BETTER PACKAGES AND WE GONNA DEAL WITH ONE PERSON VERSUS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE, WE GOTTA DEAL OUTSIDE COMPANY. SO NOW YOU HAVE, IT'S, YOU HAVE DOUBLE BOSSES, YOU HAVE A BOSS FOR THE COMPANY THAT YOU WORK FOR, AND YOU HAVE BOSS FOR, FOR ONCE YOU GET TO THE BUILDING. [00:35:01] SO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND, AND P AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY, THEY, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC. SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THE BOARD NEEDS TO REALLY DRILL DOWN AND WE NEED TO, UPON EVEN THE BUDGET SEASON THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AND SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT, THAT WE WANNA DO, BE THAT THIS CONTRACT IS COMING BACK UP. 'CAUSE FIVE YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO GIVE SOMEONE A CONTRACT FOR. SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ON. UH, WE JUST HAD A CONVERSATION A YEAR AGO, UH, AND WE, WE VOTED ON IT AS A BOARD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUTES OF LIMITATION IS TO BRING IT BACK UP WHEN IT WAS ALREADY VOTED ON AND VOTED DOWN BY THE BOARD. I I, I, I DON'T KNOW, DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW, HOW OFTEN CAN WE BRING UP THE SAME POINT OVER AND OVER? THAT WAS, I THINK, OH, GO, GO AHEAD. I, I THINK THAT WAS LAST YEAR. BUT, BUT, BUT ALSO, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER SAYING THAT IT'S COMING, THAT NOW THE CONTRACT IS COMING OPENING. SO IF THE CONTRACT IS COMING OPENING, THEN I THINK IT'S, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE THAT THE BOARD HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. 'CAUSE ALSO WE HAVE A NEW BOARD. LAST YEAR WE HAD A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT SEATED BOARD. SO NOW WE HAVE A, A NEW BOARD OF PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS AND MAY HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. SO I THINK, I THINK THAT, THAT, I THINK, I THINK THAT THAT IS ONLY RIGHT THAT WOULD, THAT THAT WOULD BRING THAT BACK UP. AND I MEAN, I, AND I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ROCK RULES OF OF WATER IS ON IT, BUT I I THAT WE HAVE GROUP MEMBERS AND WE HAVE A, A NEW BOARD AND THE CONTRACT WAS, WAS NOT UP AT THAT TIME. NOW IT'S, IT'S SAYING THAT, LOOK HERE IN JANUARY, WE'RE PUTTING IT BACK OUT. SO BEFORE WE PUT IT BACK OUT, I THINK WE, WE HAVE A, A DUE DILIGENCE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TO, TO, TO, BECAUSE WE TALKING ABOUT MONEY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING TAXPAYERS MONEY AND, AND, AND HOW TO BEST SUIT OUR TAXPAYERS. AND I JOHNSON. YEAH. SO I THINK THE LAST YEAR WHEN THE, WHEN THE, UH, COMPARISON OF IN-HOUSE VERSUS OUR HOUSE WAS DONE, THE THING THAT SURPRISED ME WAS HOW HEAVY THE BENEFITS ARE. AND THAT REALLY SORT OF PUSHED IT AWAY FROM US BRINGING, UH, THAT IN-HOUSE. 'CAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW COULD WE SORT OF STAY CURRENT IN TERMS OF THE MARKETPLACE. AND THAT WAS A SHOCKER. SO IF YOU DO THE DUE DILIGENCE, WHICH YOU NORMALLY HAVE DONE AND YOU DID LAST YEAR, THEN IT WILL SHOW YOU WHAT, WHERE THE ECONOMICS LIE. AND THEN THAT, TO ME, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO BRING IT BEFORE THE BOARD. YEAH, I, I, I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF THE, UH, THAT UH, UH, EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE, UM, IS STILL APPLICABLE RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, UH, AS FAR AS ALL THE RESEARCH WAS DONE AND THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER A YEAR AGO, UM, BUT WE'RE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER OUR, YOU KNOW, VOTING ON AND, YOU KNOW, BUDGETARY CONCERNS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. UH, IF, IF THE BOARD IS GOING TO ENTERTAIN IT AGAIN, I THINK NOW IS THE TIME THAT WE ENTERTAIN IT AGAIN. UH, IS THERE A MOTION, LEAH FRAZIER, UM, HAS, UH, QUESTION IN CHAT. GOOD. SHE SAID, ANY THOUGHTS ON SPLITTING THE JOB BETWEEN MORE THAN ONE VENDOR? YEAH, YEAH. WE'RE ALREADY SPLIT BETWEEN THREE VENDORS. MAINTENANCE. OH, MAINTENANCE. OH, MAINTENANCE FOR MAINTENANCE. OH, OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. SHE, SHE'S ASKING FOR ANY THOUGHTS ON SPLITTING THE JOB BETWEEN MORE THAN ONE VENDOR. LIKE WHAT WE DO WITH, UM, FOR CUSTODIAL? YEAH. UH, OH, YOU WANT ME TO TAKE IT? OKAY. YES, WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT. SO WE'RE WRITING THE SOLICITATION NOW, AND WE'RE GONNA WRITE IT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE UP TO TWO VENDORS. UM, THERE IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULTY IN DIVIDING MAINTENANCE, AND THERE'S SOME THOUGHT ON WHETHER IF WE DO THAT WE DIVIDE IT NORTH SOUTH OR DO WE DIVIDE IT BY TRADES. BUT, UM, YES, THERE'S DEFINITELY A THOUGHT THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING MULTIPLE VENDORS FOR MAINTENANCE OR AT LEAST LEAVE THAT OPTION AVAILABLE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND, AND, AND, AND IF WE DID, THEN I WOULD DEFINITELY ONCE AGAIN ALSO LIKE TO, LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE'RE ALREADY SPENDING IN TERMS OF VEHICLES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THEM WITH AND ALL ALL THAT STUFF. BECAUSE THAT STUFF THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT ADD, THAT ADDS UP. I MEAN, AND, AND, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAINTENANCE FROM SOME, ANOTHER COMPANY DRIVING, DRIVING A, A TRUCK WITH BEEF COUNTY DISTRICT ON, WE ARE STILL ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. IF THEY'VE GOTTEN TO HIT SOMEBODY OR SOMEBODY OR THEY INTO ACCIDENT, I BELIEVE THAT, THAT WE, WE WE'RE, WE, WE STILL TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF, UH, OF RESPONSIBILITY TO, TO THAT VEHICLE. SO ONCE AGAIN, I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE WHEN WE CAN BRING ALL THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE BRINGING ALL, ALL THAT AS WELL, WHEN THAT CONVERSATION DOES TAKE PLACE, HOPEFULLY IT TAKES PLACE SOONER THAN LATER. SO I'M MOTION, I'M A MOTION. YEAH. I, I, I MAKE A MOTION THAT, UM, THAT WE LOOK AT BRINGING MAINTENANCE BACK IN HOUSE AND WE SEIZED THE, THE PROS AND CONS OF IT IN TERMS OF THE, UH, UH, THE COSTS AROUND IT AND, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, OF, OF, OF COSTS TO THE, TO THE DISTRICT. IS THERE A SECOND? A SECONDING? ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF BRINGING A, THE, THE TOPIC OF BRINGING OUR CUSTODIAL, UH, BACK IN-HOUSE TO THE FULL BOARD. [00:40:01] RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE IMPOSED? NO. ALL RIGHT. AND, UH, WE WILL BRING TO THE FULL BOARD, UH, A DISCUSSION TOPIC MAYBE PROBABLY FOR OUR NEXT, UH, WORK SESSION. I GUESS MAYBE ABOUT, UH, MAYBE BRINGING, UH, UM, ALL THE CUSTODIAL BACK. I, I DON'T KNOW IF MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE THAT I, I'M SORRY. MAINTENANCE. OH YEAH. OKAY. MY APOLOGIES KNOWS, I DUNNO WHY I KEEP GOING. I'M STILL STUCK IN CUSTODIAL. MAYBE THE PRESENTATION WAS SO GOOD. UM, YEAH, SO, UH, BUT, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE RESEARCH THAT WAS DONE LAST YEAR IS STILL APPLICABLE FOR YOU NEED TO DO ANOTHER YEAR'S WORTH OF RESEARCH. SO THE RESEARCH WE DID PREVIOUSLY WAS CUSTODIAL. SO THIS IS MAINTENANCE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT IT DOES APPLY. WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME KIND OF ISSUES. THEY'RE GONNA BE VERY, THEY'RE DIFFERENT, BUT THEY'RE PARALLEL. SO IT'LL BE, UH, WHAT I WOULD SAY ON THIS IS THAT, UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO PUT THE SOLICITATION OUT IN THE MONTH. UM, AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO, IN ORDER TO GET A NEW CONTRACTOR IN PLACE BY JUNE, WE NEED TO STAY ON THAT TRACK. NOW, AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT I'M HEARING AND THINKING IS, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL START ANOTHER TRACK AS FAR AS IN-HOUSE. AND SO IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO GO IN-HOUSE, WELL TIMINGS, IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO GO IN-HOUSE, WE'LL STOP THE TRACK OF SOLICITATION AND WE WILL HAVE TO THEN MOVE TO BRINGING THAT IN-HOUSE. 'CAUSE ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE IN PLACE BY, OBVIOUSLY BY JULY ONE. UM, THE SOLICITATION PROCESS WILL TAKE US THREE MONTHS. UM, WE WILL THEN HAVE TO BRING TO THE BOARD. SO THE BOARD, IF YOU DECIDE TO GO IN-HOUSE AT THAT POINT, WE THEN SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE DON'T ACCEPT THE SOLICITATION. YOU'RE GONNA GO IN HOUSE. 'CAUSE EITHER WAY, WE NEED ABOUT, WE NEED TWO MONTHS TO TRANSITION FROM THE OLD VENDOR TO THE NEW VENDOR. SO WE'RE QUITE HONESTLY, WE'RE BEHIND AS IT IS. SO THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK, 'CAUSE WE CAN STAY ON OUR TRACK THAT WE'RE ON, BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET IT IN PLACE BY JULY ONE, WE CAN'T STOP. UM, AND THEN WE CAN GO THE OTHER TRACK AND BRING INFORMATION TO THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE AND THE BOARD. AND IF YOU DECIDE WE'LL CANCEL THE SOLICITATION AND MOVE OVER TO RINGING, UM, MAINTENANCE IN-HOUSE. AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D SAY, YEAH, WE DO LOSE, UM, MAINTENANCE WORKERS TO THE BASE. WE'VE LOST SEVERAL. UM, I THINK THEIR PAY IS ABOUT THREE TIMES WHAT THEY MAKE. SO RECOGNIZE WHETHER YOU'RE IN-HOUSE OR OUTTA HOUSE, THE PAY HAS TO DR, WE CAN'T, WE DON'T COMPETE WITH THEM. UM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO RAISE THEIR PAY EITHER WAY DRASTICALLY TO BE COMPETING WITH THE BASE. SO IT'S JUST THE FACT OF LIFE. THEY PAY WAY MORE THAN US. I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT. UM, 'CAUSE WE CAN'T, WE DON'T SEE THAT WE CAN COMPETE WITH THEM ON THEIR PAY SCALE. BUT I WILL BRING ALL THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. UM, AND UH, WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO TWO TRACKS IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT. YES, I OB BUT I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GONNA BE A, A DISCUSSION WITH, UH, THE BOARD CHAIR, UH, UH, 'CAUSE IT WAS GONNA, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO ON THE AGENDA AS CLOSE TO THE IMMEDIATE AS POSSIBLE. UM, WELL I ASSUME WE'LL BRING THE REPORT BACK A STUDY TO THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. AND THEN, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MARCH MEETING OF THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. I GET MY MONTHS RIGHT, FEBRUARY, MARCH. UM, MS. FRAZIER PUTS IN PLUS, WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD OF FINDING THOSE INDIVIDUALS? WELL, SO PART OF OUR CONVERSATION IS GONNA BE THAT A LARGER COMPANY HAS A BIGGER DRAW. 'CAUSE THEY HAVE A LADDER TO CLIMB. SO YOU LOOK AT AN A, BMA NATIONAL COMPANY, WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE CLIMB THEIR LADDER AND MOVE ON. WE DON'T HAVE THAT. WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE IT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE HAVE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, IF IT'S IN-HOUSE, YOU DON'T GO BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE HERE. UM, AND OUR REACH IS NOT AS BROAD AS SOME OF THESE LARGER COMPANIES. THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION. SO THAT IS A, A GOOD POINT. THE MS. FRAZIER BRINGS UP, I'D SAY, AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF A PRESENTATION WE WOULD BRING ON PROS AND CONS OF MAINTENANCE IN-HOUSE ANALYSIS. ALRIGHT. UH, YEAH, MY, UH, QUESTION WILL JUST BE ALONG THE LINES OF, UM, EVEN MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, THAT WOULD NOT PUT US IN ANY LEGAL, WE WOULDN'T, WE, UH, PUT YOU BASICALLY, YOU, YOU'RE TRYING TO, [00:45:01] YOU SEE, YOU ASKING THE BOARD TO BASICALLY, DO YOU WANNA CONTINUE THE TRACTOR OF ACTUALLY PUTTING THE RFP OUT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, 'CAUSE BEFORE ANY VENDOR SELECTED, IT'LL HAVE TO COME TO THE BOARD AND YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO WE, WE WILL CONTINUE ON THAT PROCESS. BUT IF FOR SOME REASON THROUGH THE PRESENTATION PROCESS, THE COMMITTEE AND THE BOARD DECIDE STOP OUT HOUSE AND GO IN-HOUSE, WELL THEN YOU'RE NOT GONNA ACCEPT OUR VENDOR. RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT. WELL, I THINK, WELL, MORE OF MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE ASKING THEM? DO YOU ASKING US TO ALLOW YOU TO DO WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? CONTINUE WITH THE SOLICITATION. WE SET IT ON THE STREET. UM, WE'LL ASK FOR PROPOSALS FOR VENDORS. SO THEY WILL COME IN, WE'LL FORM A COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE WILL REVIEW PROPOSALS, THEY'LL SELECT A VENDOR, AND THAT VENDOR WILL BRING IT TO THE BOARD. THAT PROCESS TAKES ABOUT THREE MONTHS. SO WE HAVE THREE MONTHS BEFORE WE'RE PROBABLY BRINGING SOMETHING TO THE BOARD FOR A, A VENDOR SELECTION. SO, AND, AND, AND THAT, AND ANSWERING THE QUESTION, BASICALLY YOU ARE YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT AN RFP OUT. IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS? YES. I'M, I'M JUST ASKING 'CAUSE LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. IF WE DON'T PUT AN RFP OUT AND YOU DECIDE, WELL EITHER WAY YOU DECIDE WE'RE IN A BIND BECAUSE OUR CONTRACT ENDS JUNE 31ST, RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE WE TO REACT TIME MANNER YOU TO ADDRESS OUR NEED. YOUR ONLY CHOICE WILL BE TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT WITH THE CURRENT VENDOR, WHICH THE SOLICITATION DOESN'T ALLOW. I THINK IT CAN BE ALLOWED. I'D HAVE TO GIVE PROCUREMENT IN HERE. I THINK IF YOU BOARD SAYS, TELLS THE SUPERINTENDENT HE HAS TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT FOR SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR, HE'S GONNA DO THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING, YOU'RE GETTING INTO, I I NEED PROCUREMENT IN HERE TO SAY REALLY WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED, WHY WE'RE IN TROUBLE. HOW ABOUT THAT ? RIGHT. WELL, WELL MY, MY ONLY CONCERN HERE IS I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT BY PUTTING YOU OR ADVERTISING SAYING, HEY, ONCE WE ARE ACCEPTING BIZ ON IT, THAT WE'RE, THAT IF WE STOP AND SAY, HEY, WE GONNA DO IT IN-HOUSE, THAT WE'RE NOT LEGALLY PUTTING OUR OURSELF IN, IN, IN, IN THE GRAY AREA TO BE SUED AND SAY, HEY, YOU KIND OF MIS MISLEADED BECAUSE YOU PUT OUT THE RFP NO, UNTIL YOU SELECT THE VENDOR, YOU CAN CANCEL IT ANYTIME. THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL, Y'ALL. THERE IS NO FEEL COMFORTABLE IN SAYING THERE'S NOT A LEGAL RAMIFICATION THOUGH BECAUSE WE PUT BIDS OUT AND CANCELED THEM IN THE PAST. THAT'S JUST PART OF THAT PROCESS. THEY CAN'T HOLD YOU LIABLE THAT YOU DECIDED YOU NOW DON'T WANT TO FINISH THAT BID PROCESS THAT YOU STARTED. OKAY. AND THEN THAT'S 1, 1 1, 1 MORE LAST QUESTION ALSO IN, IN TERMS OF THE RFP. UM, WHAT I WAS KIND OF LEARNING IS THAT THE RFP, UH, I BELIEVE THE RFP SHOULD, UH, COME BEFORE COME BEFORE THE OP SHOULD COME BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE RFP LOOK LOOKS LIKE AS, AS, AS, AS WELL. AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT AT SOME POINT BEFORE THE RFP GOES OUT, THAT THAT THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE SHOULD, THAT WE SHOULD SEE THE, THE RFP. YEAH, WE'RE GETTING WAY AHEAD OF OURSELF ON THAT THOUGH. I MEAN, FIRST WE NEED TO TAKE IT TO THE FULL BOARD IF WE WANT TO PURSUE THIS AT ALL. RIGHT. UH, AND THAT THE BOARD VOTES ON IT, THEN COME BACK TO COMMITTEE AND FIGURE ALL THAT STUFF OUT. RIGHT? NO, HE, NO, WHAT HE, SO, SO, UM, WHAT HE'S ASKING IS FOR Y'ALL TO REVIEW THE RFP BEFORE WE PUT IT ON THE STREET, RIGHT? SO WE'RE WANTING THAT TO GO OUT IN THE NEXT MONTH. UM, THAT MEANS, SO THAT'S, SO RIGHT NOW THE BOARD REQUIREMENT FOR US IS TO NOTIFY YOU OF ALL, I THINK IT'S ONLY MAJOR CONSTRUCTION AUDIT. WE DO NOTIFY YOU LIKE MAINTENANCE AND OTHERS, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY THING WE'RE BOUND, RFP WISE IS JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE THAT RFPS ARE OUT ON THE STREET. IF YOU ARE GOING TO REVIEW AN RFP, THAT MEANS THAT ONE, WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER FAST. AND IN ORDER TO GET IT OUT IN A MONTH, WE'VE GOTTA DO SOME SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS FOR Y'ALL TO REVIEW THE RFPS, GET YOUR COMMENTS BACK, GET THAT. THAT'S AN UNPRECEDENTED, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALLY GETTING INTO THE WEEDS OF OPERATING. YEAH. YEAH. I'M, I'M NOT SURE THAT AS FAR AS COHERENCE GOVERNANCE GOES, THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WITHIN COHERENT GOVERNANCE. WELL, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. BUT ALSO, UH, MY, MY QUESTION IS, WELL, ACTUALLY, I I I, I WOULD KIND OF BEG THE DIFFERENT, BECAUSE THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT I'VE, THAT I'VE ASKED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE APPLICATION LOOKED LIKE. I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT THE PROCESS IS LIKE WHEN WE HIRE NEW COMPANIES IN TERMS, IN TERMS OF, OF WHAT THE, OF, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, SO THAT WHAT THE INSURANCE, WHAT INSURANCES THAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO. ALL THAT'S A PART OF RFP. SO I, I WOULD BEG A DIFFERENT, AND THAT, AND, AND, AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN, CERTAIN BOARD THAN THERE ARE, AND THERE ARE GOVERNMENTS WHO DO LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE RFP BEFORE IT, IT GOES OUT BECAUSE REALLY THE RFP IS COMING FROM THE DISTRICT. SO IT, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY JUST COMING FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT. THE RFP IS COMING, IT REALLY COMING FROM THE, FROM, FROM THE DISTRICT BECAUSE BASICALLY IS WE ARE ACCEPTING THE CONTRACT. SO IT, SO WHAT HAPPENS IF, IF, IF, IF, IF [00:50:01] SOMEONE GET A, A AWARDED CONTRACT, AND THEN ONCE WE LOOK, ONCE WE LOOK AT IT, IT'S OUR ABOUT TO ACCEPT IT AND WE SAY, WELL, WE DON'T WANNA ACCEPT IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THESE TERMS ON IT. SO, SO THEN THE, SO THEN THE FACT IT SAYS, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU STATED IN THE RFP, THAT, AND ACTUALLY WE'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN WHERE WE HAVE ACCEPTED, WE HAVE ACCEPTED, UH, CONTRACTS, BUT THEN THE BOARD HAS HAD SOME CONCERNS AROUND THE, THE CON THE CONTRACTS ONCE WE GOT, BUT WE SAID, LOOK HERE NOW THE RFP, THIS IS WHAT WENT OUT. SO REALLY IT'S LIKE, IS IS YOUR, IF YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT WHEN IT WENT OUT IN RFP, THEN YOU CAN'T BACKTRACK IT NOW BECAUSE WITH RFP, THIS IS WHAT, WHAT YOU WENT OUT AND THIS IS WHAT YOU AGREED UPON. SO I, I THINK THAT THE, THE, THE, THERE'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED SOME, SOME CLARIFICATION IN THERE TO UNDER, TO UNDER TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, ONCE THE RFP GOES GOES OUT AND YOU SAID YOU DON'T WANNA GO WITH WHAT THE RFP STATES, THEN YOU'RE IN, THEN YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE IN VIOLATION, YOU OPEN YOURSELF UP FOR LITIGATION. SO, SO THAT'S WHY ON THE FRONT END, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE RFP AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IT. SO, HEY, SO THEREFORE, REALLY IT'S MORE OF A, IT'S MORE OF A FORMALITY ONCE SOMEONE, SOMEONE ACTUALLY GETS THE CONTRACT. BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW, AND WE ALREADY, WE ALREADY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RP WAS THAT WAS GOING OUT. SO, SO, SO, SO WE HAVE SOME, SO WE HAVE SOME LITIGATION CON, UH, QUESTIONS. I THINK, UH, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING NEW TO ME THAT I, THAT I WOULD AT SOME POINT, LIKE US TO, UH, TO DISCUSS VERY SOON. BECAUSE I, I REALLY THINK THAT WE SHOULD SEE THE RFP FROM MY UNDERSTANDING BEFORE THE, THOSE RFPS GOES OUT BECAUSE WE ARE ACCEPTING THAT CONTRACT UNDER THAT RFP. SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE POINT OF US AS YOU WOULD SAY, WHAT'S THE POINT OF US ACCEPTING THE ACCEPT, ACCEPTING THE, UH, CONTRACT? WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION OR WRONG IT OR, OR WRONG IT, IF WE JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND, UH, AND WE GONNA JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND RUB THAT, BUT WE'RE JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND GO ALONG WITH, SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST MY HOW, HOW I SEE IT. YOU DONE? YES. OKAY. SO, UH, AS FAR AS COHERENT GOVERNANCE GOES, OUR JOB IS TO, TO ENFORCE POLICY, RIGHT? SO IN OUR POLICY, IF WE WANT TO DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT AS A FULL BOARD, NOT AS A COMMITTEE, IF THE FULL BOARD WANTS TO TELL THE SUPERINTENDENT, YOU WILL INCLUDE THESE THINGS IN THE RFPS, UH, SO THAT THEY ARE INCLUDED OR IN ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, RIGHT? BUT AS, AS FAR AS US REVIEWING AND OKAYING, WE GET INTO A MOTHER MAY I SITUATION, AND MOTHER MAY I SITUATION IS NOT WHAT THE COMMITTEE OR THE BOARD IS ABOUT, BECAUSE THEN IT'S THE, IT'S THE STAFF COMING TO US. IS THIS OKAY IF WE DO THIS? THAT'S NOT WHAT COHERENT GOVERNANCE IS ABOUT. IF WE, IF WE WANT THESE THINGS TO GO INTO, UM, THE, THE RFPS OR INTO THE CONTRACTS, THEN OUR JOB IS TO DIRECT AS A BOARD, TO DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE INCLUDED AND HE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE OPERATION STAFF INCLUDES THAT AND THAT STUFF. BUT IF WE GET INTO A MOTHER, MAY I, AND AS YOU SAID, INVITE LITIGATION, THEN WHO IS CULPABLE? WHO, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? BECAUSE THEN IT'S NOT THE SUPERINTENDENT, IT'S ALSO THE BOARD MEMBERS. BECAUSE WE TOLD THE BOARD MEMBERS, IT'S OKAY, YOU COULD DO THIS. WE GAVE HIM PERMISSION. SO THEN THE WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU PLACE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND WHERE YOU PLACE THE BLAME STARTS TO BECOME A VERY GRAY AREA. SO I, I'M, I'M, I I UNDERSTAND THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING, AND WE DON'T NEED TO REHASH THIS. WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING TO BEAT IT DEAD HORSE AND WE'RE GETTING WAY OFF TRACK. UH, BUT I UNDERSTAND, BUT IT, IT, I I THINK YOU MIS YOU MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I SAID. I I DID, I MISUNDERSTAND. WELL, THE WAY YOU EXPLAINED TO ME, S NOT, IS NOT WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT NO, IT'S NOT AS IN THIS COMMITTEE ACTUALLY, UH, SAYS WE'RE GONNA GO WITH IT THE SAME WAY HOW WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FULL BOARD, THEN THAT RFP FROM UNDERSTANDING, AND I BELIEVE COUNTY COUNCIL, THOSE RFP GOES, GOES TO THE FULL BOARD AND THE FULL BOARD AT THE BOARD MEETING SAY, YES, WE AGREE UPON THAT. RRFP, NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS BODY. I'M SAYING THIS, THIS BODY CAN IS THE SAME WITH HOW MR ING AND HIS STAFF BRINGS STUFF TO US. THEY CAN BRING US AND WE CAN WEED OUT THE SAME WAY HOW WE, WE OUT EVERYTHING ELSE. AND THEN WE TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL, TO THE FULL BODY, AND THE BODY SAYS, YES, WE AGREE WITH THE RP AND THEN THAT RFP GOES OUT. SO NO. SO NO, I'M NOT SAYING FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, THAT THIS COMMITTEE STARTED AND LOOK AT IT, AND THEN DO, AND DO THE COMMITTEE WORK AS NORMAL, AS NORMAL OPERATIONS PROCEDURES AS WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL DIFFERENT THINGS. AND THEN THAT RFP GOES TO THE FULL BOARD AND THE FULL BOARD, BOARD APPOINTED. SO THEREFORE THERE'S NO, NO DIFFERENT, NO, NO SELECT FEW PEOPLE WHO MOTHER BAY, I KNOW THE BOARD IS SAYING THIS, RFP, THIS IS WHAT WE STAND BY AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING. IF YOU'RE BIDDING ON AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND THEN, THEN THEY GO AND THEY DO THEIR PROCESS AND BRING AND BRING BACK WHO, WHO THEY SAW FIT TO IT. SO I I, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WAS A LITTLE, THINK A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I JUST STATED BECAUSE YOU, YOU'RE SAYING MOTHER, MAYOR, I, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE HERE, THE SCIENCE. NO, I'M SAYING THAT THIS COMMITTEE WORKS ON IT AND SAYING TAKES IT TO THE FULL BOARD, AND THEN THE FULL BOARD SAYS, HEY, WE, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND RFP OUT COMPLETED. THAT, THAT, SO YEAH, THAT, THAT'S, THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THERE'S A CLEAR, THERE'S A, THERE'S A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT YOU SAID TO WHAT I SAID. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, MS. FRAZIER PUT IN CHAT? SHOULDN'T THAT BE A CONVERSATION WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND NOT HIS STAFF? AND YOU J YOU JUST SAID THAT, ADDRESSED THAT. [00:55:01] OKAY. ANY OTHER CONVERSATION? ALRIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. YEAH, NO WORRIES. . ALL GOOD STUFF. ALL RIGHT, SO MOVING ON. OUR NEXT, UM, OUR NEXT PAGE THAT WE, UM, PRESENT EVERY MONTH ARE OUR WORK ORDERS BY CRAFT. SO AS THE WORK ORDERS COME INTO OUR, UM, OUR MAINTENANCE WORK ORDER SYSTEM, WE HAVE 138 CRAFTS IN THERE. SO WE GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT OF THE TOP EIGHT CRAFTS, THE ONES THAT HAVE THE, UM, MOST, UH, HIGHEST VOLUME OF REQUESTED WORK ORDERS. AND THEN WE GIVE YOU THE COMPLETION TOTALS. OUT OF THOSE TOP EIGHT PREPS, WE FOCUS ON THE TWO OHIOS. UM, IT'S, UH, THIS MONTH OUR TWO TOP, UH, TRACKS ARE HVAC AND PLUMBING. IT'S NORMALLY HVAC. I'LL TELL YOU, HVAC IS NORMALLY ONE THAT'S PRETTY REPETITIVE. UH, PLUMBING IS, IS PROBABLY IN THE TOP THREE OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE EVERY MONTH. BUT OUR TWO CATEGORIES WERE HVAC AND PLUMBING LADIES, ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL HAD THE HIGHEST HVAC FOUR QUARTER TOTAL. SO LOOKING AT THE DATA, JUST OVERALL, TO PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE, WE HAD 211, UH, HVAC WORK QUARTERS REQUESTED THIS MONTH. UH, LADIES ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL HAD THE HIGHEST AND HAD 23 OF THOSE WORK ORDERS. UM, NONE OF THOSE WORK ORDERS WERE FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. SO THEN WHAT I DO IS I TAKE THOSE WORK ORDERS AND LOOK A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO, OUT OF THOSE WORK ORDERS, WHAT WERE THEY REALLY ABOUT? UH, YOU KNOW, THEY A HIGH VOLUME OF A SPECIFIC MECHANICAL FAILURE. WERE THEY JUST A LOT OF GENERAL RANDOM WORK ORDERS THAT HAD NO CONNECTIVITY? UM, A LOT OF THE WORK ORDERS FOR LADIES ALLEN METAL, UH, THIS MONTH, UH, FOR JANUARY, WAS DEALING WITH THERMOSTAT ISSUES. YOU KNOW, IT WAS COLD. IT WAS COLD IN JANUARY, . SO THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL HAD A LOT OF RECESS THAT HAD TO BOOK HER BECAUSE THE, UH, HEAT WAS MALFUNCTIONING. SO THEY HAD TO GO IN, THEY HAD TO DO SOME RESETS ON SYSTEMS. THEY HAD TO GO IN AND, AND ADJUST THERMOSTATS. UM, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO GO IN AND ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE WORK ORDERS AND GET THEM, UM, GET THEM COMPLETED. THE NEXT SECTION WAS PLUMBING. SO WE HAD 234 WORK ORDERS FOR PLUMBING REQUESTS THIS MONTH. HIGH SCHOOL HAD THE HIGHEST, UM, AT 19, UH, TWO WORK PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. WHAT WE SEE AT HILTON HEAD HIGH SCHOOL, IT IS AN OLDER SCHOOL. THERE IS CHALLENGES THERE WITH THOSE DRAIN LINES. AND WHAT WE DO SEE WITH PLUMBING WORK ORDERS PRETTY HISTORICALLY ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH HILTON HEAD HIGH SCHOOL IS WE GET CLOGS, WE GET DRAINS, WE GET, UH, THE, THE MAIN LINES. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CLEAN OUT AREAS THAT MAINTENANCE HAS INSTALLED TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF WHEN WE HAVE SUBSTANTIAL SYSTEM BREAKDOWNS THAT THEY'RE USING THOSE CLEAN OUTS TO TRY TO GET THOSE MAIN DRAINS CLEARED OUT. THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT HILTON HEAD HIGH SCHOOL IS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE REPETITIVELY IN THIS REPORT UNDER PLUMBING, WE ARE REPLACING THAT SCHOOL. SO THESE, THESE MAIN DRAIN LINE ISSUES, UH, WE ANTICIPATE BECOMING A THING OF THE PAST . UM, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT PAGE. WE HAVE OUR NEXT TWO BASE PAGES. WE FOCUS ON, UH, OUR MAINTENANCE WORK ORDERS REQUESTING COMPLETED FOR A MONTH BECAUSE WE WANNA GIVE THE COMMITTEE A SNAPSHOT OF OUR AVERAGE DAYS THAT IT TAKES TO COMPLETE A WORK ORDER. THE FIRST PAGE WE SHOW YOU NORTH BROAD WORK ORDERS REQUESTING COMPLETED. UM, SO WITHIN THE SAME MONTH, UH, MAINTENANCE WAS ABLE TO COMPLETE, UH, 52% OF THE WORK ORDERS THAT WERE REQUESTED AND COMPLETED. AND WHEN YOU SCROLL DOWN THE PAGE, WHEN WE DO ALL THE DATA ANALYSIS, YOU START TO SEE OUR TREND. WE'D LIKE TO SHOW THIS GRAPHIC EVERY MONTH SO YOU CAN SEE ON A THREE MONTH HISTORIC TREND HOW, UM, WHAT'S THEIR AVERAGE WORK PAGE TO COMPLETE A WORK QUARTER. SO, UM, NOVEMBER 4.77. DECEMBER 4.26. AND THEN WE SAW THAT RISE IN JANUARY OF 5.03 FOR OUR NORTH OF THE BROAD WORK ORDERS. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PAGE, IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF DATA SET EXCEPT IT'S SOUTH OF ABROAD. SO SOUTH OF ABROAD HAD 54% OF THE WORK ORDERS REQUESTED AND COMPLETED. AND THEN AS YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THEIR AVERAGE DATE TO COMPLETION, THEY ALSO STARTED TO UP PICK FROM 3.25 IN DECEMBER, UM, TO 4.14 FOR AVERAGE DATES OF THE COMPLETION. WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. WE KIND OF ALREADY ON THE NEXT PAGE ADDRESSED THAT. UH, NORMALLY IN THE SECTION WHERE IT SAYS MAINTENANCE SCHOOL SPLITS, WE NORMALLY CHOOSE A MAINTENANCE SPLITS, UH, SCHOOL BLISS THAT WE DO EVERY MONTH. WITH THAT ENTAILS IS OUR DISTRICT OPERATIONS STAFF, ALONG WITH OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM, OUR CUSTODIAL TEAM GROUNDS TEAM. UM, WE GO TO, WE PICK A SCHOOL NORTH OF THE BROAD, SOUTH OF THE BROAD. WE ALTERNATE EVERY OTHER MONTH BETWEEN BOTH SIDES OF THE BROAD RIVER. UM, AND WE GO IN AND WE MEET THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION. WE DO A FACILITIES WALK OF THE SCHOOL, AND THEN MAINTENANCE [01:00:01] CUSTODIAN GROUNDS DOES A . THEY IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE. WE LOOK AT WORK ORDER COUNTS TO SEE WHAT WORK ORDERS CAN BE COMPLETED. UM, AND WE NORMALLY DO, WE DO THAT AND FEATURE THAT INFORMATION IN THIS SECTION. SO NEXT MONTH IN FEBRUARY, WE'LL HAVE POTENT HEAD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WILL BE FEATURED FOR OUR FEBRUARY SPLIT, SINCE WE WERE UNABLE TO DO IT THIS MONTH. WE HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT STAFFING AGAIN, 87.5. WE'VE GOT 56 PER 56 OF THE 64 MAINTENANCE POSITIONS HAVE, UM, OUR CURRENTLY STAFFED. RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOWN TWO PLUMBERS, TWO GENERAL TECHS, TWO HVAC TECHS, UH, ONE GENERATOR TECHNICIAN, AND A LOCKSMITH JUST TO TALK ABOUT TALENT ACQUISITION. SO WE RECENTLY, IN OUR LAST REPORT FEATURED THAT WE HIRED AN HVAC MANAGER TO GET THAT HVAC MANAGER, A BM RECRUITED THAT INDIVIDUAL FROM TEXAS AND IT TOOK THEM MONTHS TO GET THAT IN. SO THEY ARE SEEING CHALLENGES NOT ONLY WITH THEIR REGIONAL, BUT WITH THEIR TALENT ACQUISITIONS ABILITY TO REALLY FIND QUALIFIED LOCAL CANDIDATES TO FILL THESE POSITIONS. AND SO THEY PUSHED THEIR SALARY MARK UP A LITTLE HIGHER, OFFERED, UM, OFFERED SOME BENEFITS AND SOME PERKS, AND ACTUALLY GOT THE FROM TEXAS AND HE REPORTED. AND SO FAR HE'S DOING, HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB OF MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT AS AN HVAC MANAGER. BUT YEAH, AND I MEAN, THEY HAD TO KIND OF PUSH OUTSIDE THAT REGIONAL MINDSET AND GO MORE OF A NATIONAL BALANCE SEARCH AND ADD A, A LOT MORE PERKS TO GET THAT INDIVIDUAL HERE. UM, AS FAR AS RECOGNIZING SUCCESS, UM, WE, A FEW MONTHS AGO REPORTED ABOUT THIS NEW BEACON ALERTS NOTIFICATION SYSTEM THAT WERE, UM, SIGNED ON WITH YOU FOR JASPER WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY. UH, PREVIOUSLY WE HAD JUST GOTTEN MANUAL LETTERS IN THE MAIL OR ROBOCALLS THAT SAID, HEY, DO YOU HAVE A HIGH CONSUMPTION AT THIS LOCATION? WHICH WAS NOT THE BEST TRACKING OF, UM, IF WE WERE HAVING WATER LEAKS OR HIGH CONSUMPTION RATES AT SCHOOLS. SO WE SIGNED IN AND GOT CONNECTED WITH THE BEACON ALERTS NOTIFICATION SYSTEM. UH, THE GREAT THING ABOUT THAT IS OUR DATA OPERATIONS SPECIALISTS, ALONG WITH OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MONITOR THROUGH THIS SYSTEM. SO WE'RE GETTING REAL TIME ALERTS NOW AND MAINTENANCE IS ABLE TO GO OUT AND AFTER YOU EVALUATE THESE, UM, ALERTS TO TRY TO GET IN FRONT OF THEM, THEY WERE ABLE TO, IN JANUARY, THEY, UM, THEY FOUND A PRETTY LARGELY GET BROAD RIVER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO THAT WAS THE HIGHLIGHT OF THIS NEW SYSTEM WE SEE IT'S WORKING. UM, YES. YEAH, GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, AS FAR AS TREE WORK, WE ARE CONTINUING MAINTENANCE AND CONTINUING TO WORK THROUGH LOCATIONS TO IDENTIFY MULTIPLE TREE PROJECTS. UM, AND WE'RE EVALUATING THOSE FOR FUNDING AS WELL AS GETTING THIRD PARTIES TO GIVE US SOURCING QUOTES ON THAT. UM, ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO, UM, THE LAST THING FOR MAINTENANCE IS OUR MOVING WORK ORDERS. UM, SINCE AUGUST, UM, IT'S ASTOUNDING. OUR, OUR MOVING WORK ORDERS HAVE EXCEEDED 300 AND OUR MAN HOURS ARE OVER 2000 JUST ALONE FOR, FOR, UH, MOVING. SO THAT, THAT TAKES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LABOR. IT'S NOT A DIFFICULT THING TO DO, BUT WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY EIGHT POSITIONS DOWN AND YOU ADD ON, UH, MOVING WORK ORDERS, UM, ON TOP OF THAT, UM, YOU START TO SEE THESE DATA TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH WORK ORDER COMPLETION, TOTALS DROPPING OFF, MAINTENANCE INITIATED WORK ORDER COUNTS, DROPPING OFF. YOU START TO SEE THE STRESS OF THE SYSTEM AND, AND WHAT WE'RE, AND THEN WE'RE SEEING THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE SEEING THAT WITH OUR MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. OKAY. SO I JUST GAVE YOU THAT LAST SUCCESSFUL, UM, PARAGRAPH BECAUSE I KIND OF WANTED YOU TO GET A PERSPECTIVE OF, OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THE FALL OFF WITH THE DATA AND MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT MAY BE PULLING OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT IN SOME DIFFERENT WAYS. OKAY. SO THAT CONCLUDES THE MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAL REPORT. ANY QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK FOR FUTURE REPORTS OTHER THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PREVIOUSLY SPOKEN ABOUT? MR. CAR? ANY QUESTIONS? NONE. I'M GOOD. ALRIGHT. UH, SO I GOT JUST A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I NOTICED IN THE, UM, IN THE, THE CRAFT CATEGORY, THERE WERE MORE COMPLETED FOR HVAC AND FOR ELECTRICALS THAN WERE REQUESTED. SO YOU GETTING INTO THE BACKLOG IN ONLY A LITTLE BIT, THAT'S STILL GOOD NEWS. I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT. YES. UM, SO WHAT, WHAT WORK ORDERS HAVE PRECEDENT? SO IF LIKE, AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL THESE OUTSTANDING WORK ORDERS OUT THERE, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA ATTACK THESE FIRST AND THESE BECAUSE OF SHORTFALLS, YOU KIND OF MIGHT HAVE TO PUSH TO THE SIDE, RIGHT? WHAT IS THE ORDER OF PRECEDENT? SO LIFE SAFETY, [01:05:01] I MEAN LIFE SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE. YOU KNOW, ASSET PRESERVATIONS NUMBER TWO. SO THOSE ARE YOUR, THOSE ARE YOUR TOP TWO CATEGORIES THAT THEY WILL FOCUS ON. UM, LET'S FIND LIFE SAFETY BASICALLY MEANS FIRE ALARM. UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT ELSE. UH, FIRE ALARM. IT'S KIND OF YOUR BIGGEST LIFE SAFETY ACT. YEAH. UM, SO ANYWAY, I MEAN, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. YEAH. I MEAN LIFE. YEAH. YEAH. YES, WE KEEP USING THAT TERM LIFE SAFETY, BUT IT BASICALLY MEANS FIRE ALARM EXTINGUISHERS OR PA SYSTEMS. YEAH. SOMETHING THAT, UH, 'CAUSE PA SYSTEMS ARE USED FOR LIFE SAFETY TO EVACUATE DOOR ACCESS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T SECURE A DOOR. UM, I THINK OF OTHER EXAMPLES OTHER THAN FIRE ALARM, DOOR ACCESS ISSUES. UM, ELEVATORS. ELEVATORS, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. ASSET PRESERVATION. SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING MAJOR IN YOUR FACILITY, YOU'VE GOT A LEAK, UH, YOU HAVE A FIRE. ANYTHING THAT COULD CAUSE SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE, UM, IS OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA GET IN FRONT OF THAT BEFORE IT COSTS THE DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF MONEY. UM, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT, UM, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT SPECIFIC REQUESTS THAT COME IN FOR SCHOOL THAT ARE DATE RELATED. YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE, UM, SOME VERY SPECIFIC REQUESTS THAT COME IN FOR EVENT SUPPORT, UM, OR DEADLINES THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET THAT ARE DIRECTED BY SCHOOL. UM, BUT OUR TWO TOP PRIORITIES ARE THE LIFE SAFETY AND THE ASSET PRESERVATION. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THIS MAY BE OPEN-ENDED CAN OF WORMS, BUT I THINK IT, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING BUDGET RIGHT NOW, HOW LONG, IF WE CHOOSE TO, I MEAN, IF WE'RE UP FOR, UH, RECONTRACT ON MAINTENANCE, UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE DISPARATE, UM, CATEGORIES OF PAY BETWEEN US AND THE THE AIR STATION, WHICH IS GONNA BE, AND PARIS ISLAND, UM, TO BE HONEST. RIGHT. UM, SO HOW LONG BEFORE THAT THAT, UH, GAB BITES US? BECAUSE I MEAN, IF, WELL, I MEAN, WE'VE LOST HISTORICALLY THROUGHOUT MAINTENANCE. I MEAN, I, UH, WE'VE LOST PEOPLE TO THE, THE AIR STATION ALL THE TIME. UM, THAT'S BEEN A CONSTANT. YOU GET WORKERS IN AND, AND THEY PAY MORE THAN THEY GO TO THE AIR STATION. I DON'T, PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BATTLE WE CAN WIN. THAT'S 'CAUSE YOU'RE, THEIR PAY IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. YOU'RE TALK, I MEAN, UH, 500 PEOPLE MAKING THREE TIMES. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO CLOSE THAT GAP. UM, WHAT THAT MEANS TO ME IS THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WIN OVER OTHERS. LIKE WE CAN'T, UH, HAVE SOMEBODY GOING TO PARKER'S TO WORK ON IT AS A MAINTENANCE GUY MAKING MORE AT THAT LOCATION. BUT THE AIR STATION, WE CAN'T COMPETE WITH THEM. SO IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, WHEN THIS, UH, NEXT CONTRACT GOES OUT FOR CONTRACT, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE, UH, THE INCREASE IS GONNA BE? 10% MORE? 10 50%, 75% MORE? A HUNDRED PERCENT. I MEAN, I'M, I AM TELLING FINANCE TO EXPECT, WE'RE EXPECTING 2020 5% INCREASE. CUSTODIAL CONTRACT WENT UP. I DON'T, BUT IT WAS HIGHER THAN 10. PUSHING 20. I THINK IT WAS 20, JUST UNDER 22%. SO WHEN CUSTODIAL, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC. YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT TEACHER SALARIES AND ALL THAT. THEY HAVEN'T HAD A MA THEY'VE HAD 3% INCREASES UPHILL NOW, AND WE'RE BEHIND EIGHT BALL AS FAR AS THOSE INCREASES GO. SO I'M WARNING OF A 20 TO 25 CENT INCREASE WITH MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS WHAT WE SAW WITH CUSTODIAN. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. LIKE WHEN WE GET THE VENDORS IN HERE AND THE DISTRICT PAYS THE VENDORS, BUT DO WE HAVE CON WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE CONTROL OVER WHAT THE VENDORS PAY THE EMPLOYEES. NO. SO WE DON'T, WE CAN'T EVEN CONTROL THAT. NOW YOU CAN SET MINIMUMS. WE DID TALK, ONE OF THE THINGS WITH CUSTODIAL IS WE TALKED ABOUT A MINIMUM SALARY. OKAY. YOU, YOU CANS. AND THERE IS NO REASON WE CAN'T, AS A BOARD, YOU COULD NOT RIGHT NOW, SAY A BM, WE WANT YOU TO GIVE EVERYBODY A $5 RAISE AND HERE'S THE MONEY TO PAY FOR. YOU CAN, YOU CAN GIVE 'EM AN INCREASE, RIGHT? THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING YOU AS A BOARD TO, AS PART OF THEIR CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM AN INCREASE IN PAY TODAY. UM, OUR BUDGET'S NOT SET FOR THAT, RIGHT? SO IT WOULDN'T BE RECOMMENDED. BUT, UM, WE, YOU CAN SET SOME MINIMUMS, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WHAT YOU ARE PAYING FOR WITH OUR MAINTENANCE CONTRACT AND OUR CUSTODIAL CONTRACT IS FOR LABOR. AND YOU ARE PAYING FOR THEM TO MANAGE THE LABOR. LIKE, LIKE MR. SMITH SAID, WE PAY FOR THE EQUIPMENT, WE PAY FOR THE VEHICLES, WE PAY FOR EVERYTHING ELSE. WHAT THEY PAY FOR IS LABOR. AND THAT IS WHAT THEIR CONTRACT, THEY ARE THERE TO MANAGE IT. HIRE, FIRE, TRAIN. THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE THERE. MR. SMITH, UH, I JUST WANNA PIGGYBACK OFF FROM WHAT YOU SAID. UM, YEAH. THAT [01:10:01] WE COULD, YOU COULD SEE, YOU COULD SAY THAT WE COULD GIVE, GIVE THEM A DOLLAR. BUT FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS THAT DURING, DURING COVID THAT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. WE GAVE SOME OF THOSE CONTRACTS SOME MONEY APPARENTLY, BECAUSE WHEN WE GAVE, UH, WHEN WE GAVE OUR TEACHERS AND DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS BONUSES OR SOME OF THAT FOR, UH, DURING THAT COVID DURING THAT, DURING THAT COVID TIME, THAT, UH, THE, THE, APPARENTLY THEY WOULD SAID THAT WE GAVE SOME OF THOSE COMPANIES SOME MONEY, BUT THE COMPANIES DIDN'T USE THE MONEY FOR WHAT IT WAS KIND OF, UH, UH, SAID THAT THE COMPANY KIND OF USED THE MONEY FOR WHAT THEY KIND OF WANTED IT TO. SO ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S THE GRAY AREA. THAT'S THAT'S JUST A, A, A PRO A PRO IN KIND OF GIVING THE, GIVING THE MONEY VERSUS SAYING, NOT SAYING IT BECAUSE, UH, THEY WERE SAYING THAT, OH, THEY WERE CATCHING, THEY WERE CATCHING HELL, GETTING, HELL, GETTING PEOPLE TO COME IN AND WORK DURING THAT TIME AND DIFFERENT THINGS. SO ONCE AGAIN, VERSUS SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY WORKING, WHEN EVERYONE GETS A BONUS, IF THEY'RE A PART OF STAFF, THEY, THEY, THEY GET, THEY GET BONUSES VERSUS, UH, SAYING THAT, HEY, WE, WE, WE, WE WANT, WE WANT YOU TO UP, UP, UP THERE, UH, UP WHAT YOU'RE PAYING THEM. I, I JUST WANNA PUT, PUT THAT OUT THERE. BUT, BUT ALSO I'M MOVE ON TO SOMETHING, TO SOMETHING ELSE TO CAN I SURE, GO AHEAD. I MEAN, I DON'T, WE NEED, UM, SO AS FAR AS THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, WE DID NOT GIVE THOSE BIG BUMPS AS FAR DURING COVID. SO WE DID GIVE SOME TO CUSTODIAL. OKAY. WELL, AND IT WAS FOR EXTRA STAFF MEMBERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. RIGHT. WE ALSO PAID THEM TO GIVE THEM MORE BENEFITS, RIGHT. TO GIVE MORE, AND I MEAN, GIVE THEM MORE SICK DAYS THAT BECAME PART OF THEIR CONTRACT AND THEY DID THAT. NOW WE DID. THAT'S NOT WHAT I HEARD, BUT I JUST, THAT IS NOT CORRECT, SIR. THEY DID THAT. THAT IS A FACT. AND IF THEY DID NOT, WE COULD HOLD 'EM ACCOUNTABLE. THEIR CONTRACT SAID THEY HAD TO DO THAT. SO I HAVE TO SAY THAT THEY WERE HELD TO MAKING SURE THAT THEY WERE GIVEN SICK DAYS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE PAID FOR. I WON'T HAVE THAT OUT TODAY. BUT WE DID NOT PAY FOR ESPECIALLY MAINTENANCE. WE DID NOT PAY FOR A SALARY INCREASE, NOR DID WE, WE, IN NO WAY DID THE BOARD APPROVE THAT. SO YOU DID NOT SAY DURING COVID HERE IS YOU GAVE OUR EMPLOYEES ONE, YOU DID NOT TELL MAINTENANCE TO INCREASE SALARIES. SO WE, WE GAVE, WE GET THE MONEY FOR, FOR, FOR WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS IT AGAIN? NOW TO FI TO FIND EMPLOYEES. NOW MAINTENANCE. WE DID NOT, WE, BUT FOR CUSTODIAL, WE ADDED ADDITIONAL CLEANING STAFF, RIGHT. FOR COVID TO WIPE DOWN DOORS AND ALSO PLACES WHERE THEY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH STAFF THAT WE DID FUND. SO THEY DID ADD STAFF AS PART OF COVID. WE ALSO PAID FOR, WHICH YOU, Y'ALL REQUESTED ADDITIONAL SICK DAYS. WE GAVE THEM ADDITIONAL SICK DAYS AS PART OF CO DURING COVID, BUT WE DID NOT GIVE THEM WAGE INCREASES BEYOND WHAT THEY WOULD'VE INCORPORATED. NORMALLY THERE WERE NO EXTRA WAGE INCREASES. WELL, MY MY MY POINT IS THAT, OR THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO ME, I DON'T THINK IT'S PRUDENT FOR US TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN, IT IS BEEN SAID THAT WE, THAT WE'VE DONE IT. BUT PEOPLE SAID THEY HADN'T, THEY HADN'T SEEN, THEY HADN'T SEEN THE EXTRA MONEY THEY HADN'T SEEN. AND I DON'T WANNA RE I DON'T WANNA REHASH THAT, BUT I'M TELLING YOU WHAT, WHAT STAFF MEMBERS, SOME PEOPLE WHO WORKED FOR THE DISTRICT FOR 20 SOME ODD YEARS, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY, WHEN THEY CHECK CHANGE BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO BRING IT TO ME BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE, THEY DO FOLLOW THIS STUFF. AND I DON'T WANNA REHASH IT HERE, BUT I DO REMEMBER ME COMING AND BRINGING THAT POINT BACK THAT THE MONEY THAT WE SAID THAT WE WERE, THAT WE WERE GIVEN, THAT STAFF MEMBERS WERE SAYING THAT THEY HAD, THEY HAD, THEY HAD NOT HAVE SEEN THAT MONEY. SO I I, WE, I DON'T WANNA REHASH IT, BUT MY, UH, MY, MY, MY QUESTION I WAS FINN TO ASK THIS NOW, WAS, UM, ON A SECOND, UH, BEFORE YOU GO ON, UM, TRYING TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS THE VOICE HERE, MR. JONES. YEAH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS, LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION, WE THINK BACK TO THE CUSTODIAL REVIEW DID A VERY RIGOROUS REVIEW OF THE COST AT THAT POINT IN TIME. AND YOU LOOKED ACROSS THE NATION AND YOU ALSO LOOKED ACROSS THE SEABOARD. RIGHT? AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THAT, THAT DETAIL. UH, UH, THE OTHER THING IS WE PARTICIPATE IN A CONFERENCE CALL TODAY WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THEY HAD SOME REALLY INNOVATIVE WAYS IN TERMS OF TEACHER SALARY, BUT THEY WERE REALLY AT A DEFICIT. AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST APPROPRIATE TO REALLY CONSIDER WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKETPLACE. ONE OTHER ADDITIONAL DATA POINT IS IN CALIFORNIA, TRUCKERS ARE LIKE, THEY SEND THEIR TRUCKS OUT THERE TO PICK UP FRUIT, VEGETABLES, THOSE TRUCKS ARE DELAYED, CANCELED LOADS, PALLETS THAT THEY NORMALLY WOULD GET ARE NOT THERE. THAT'S BECAUSE THE WORKERS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE FIELDS TO ACTUALLY PICK THE FRUIT AND LOAD IT UP ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE. SO I THINK WE'RE REALLY GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING AND THEN PROJECT OUT HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS. SO I THINK YOUR POINT EARLIER ABOUT HAVING A RIGOROUS REVIEW, UH, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THAT AS WELL, A RIGOROUS REVIEW TO REALLY SORT OF UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S ALL. AND, AND WELL, AND, BUT MY, MY, MY, MY, MY MAIN POINT WAS, UM, I DEFINITELY, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE, UH, OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING AND, AND NOT KNOCKING. UH, BUT I, I, I THINK THAT IT IS MORE THAN, THAN JUST THE SAME THING AS I WILL SAY IN, IN, IN SEVERAL BOARD UH, MEETINGS IS MORE THAN JUST THE PAY. SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY, [01:15:01] IT'S ABOUT HOW YOU SAY WHAT YOU SAY. AND PEOPLE HAVE, PEOPLE HAVE, HAVE STATED THAT THEY WANTED CONSISTENCY AND VERSUS WORKING FOR TWO PEOPLE, THEY WANNA WORK FOR ONE FOR ONE PERSON. SO I THINK IT IS BEYOND JUST THE AIR STATION AND THE PAY, IT'S ALSO, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS. THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT HAS THAT, THAT GOES INTO WHY PEOPLE LEAVE, LEAVE THESE COMPANIES OR WHY PEOPLE LEAVE THE DISTRICT. IT IS BEYOND, IT IS BEYOND JUST, I THINK THE PAY KIND OF, KIND OF, IT KIND OF COMES ACROSS TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AS AN EXCUSE OF, OF, OF HIGH, OF, OF REALLY ADDRESSING THE REAL ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. AND SO, UH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE PAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAVING HERE AND GOING TO WORK FOR PARKERS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAVING HERE WHO ARE WORK FOR SOME OF THESE NEW, UH, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEXES. AND YOU GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO WORK AT SOME OF THAT AT, AT, AT, UH, AT, AT, AT, AT BRIDGES AND SOME OF THESE OTHER, OTHER CHARTER SCHOOLS. SO, AND, AND SO THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL, I'M SURE THEY'RE STILL IN THE SAME PRICE RANGES THAT WE ARE. SO I THINK THE, THE COMPENSATION IS LARGER THAN JUST THE AIR STATION. I THINK WE, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE EXAMINED TOO, IN TERMS OF, OF CULTURE AND, AND CLEAR CLIMATE AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TO UPON WHEN WE GET THERE ABOUT, UH, LOOKING AT THAT, THAT, THAT THOSE DECISIONS. AND UPON TALKING ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE WHAT THE, UH, THE WAGES ARE FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR PEOPLE, FOR THOSE SERVICES, FOR THE DISTRICT, PUT THAT OUT AS WELL. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, MOVING ON LADIES OUT ON MIDDLE SCHOOL ZONING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO, UM, THE GOOD STUFF REALLY , SO WHERE THIS CAME ABOUT IS WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE AT THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASES FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDING AND HOW IT'S GOING TO FIT ON THE SITE. UM, AND WE WERE COMING INTO SOME, UH, SCHEDULE AND FINANCIAL HURDLES, UH, THAT OUR DESIGN TEAM WAS WORKING ON. YEAH. AND SO THE ORIGINAL PLAN, IF YOU'VE HEARD US TALK ABOUT LAY ISLAND MIDDLE HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO PLACE THE BUILDING ON THE FOOTBALL. UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW THE EXISTING BUILDING TO STAY IN PLACE. UH, ONCE THAT BUILDING WAS COMPLETED, WE WOULD THEN TEAR DOWN THE OLD AND BUILD A NEW FOOTBALL FIELD. UM, KEEP THAT UP THERE. YEAH, I THINK, CAN YOU FLIP IT AROUND? I THINK IT'S UPSIDE DOWN. CAN ROTATE IT. HMM. IT'S ALL RELATIVE. WELL, YOU CAN READ UPSIDE DOWN. I HAVE TROUBLE, I'M, I'M, I'M MAP ORIENTED SO IT'S NOT WORKING IN MY BRAIN, BUT WHICH WAY SHOULD IT BE? UM, SO THIS IS THE FOOTBALL, THIS IS NORMAL. I MEAN, THIS IS WHERE YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. YOU SEE THE WORD SO THAT, THAT'S UPSIDE DOWN. THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO IF YOU'LL SEE THE BLUE OUTLINE, THAT WAS A DESIGN THAT WE LOOKED AT MOVING THE BUILDING TO, UM, UH, OVER THE FOOTBALL FIELD. SO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UH, THE DESIGN TEAM WAS CHALLENGED TO LOOK AT WAYS TO, UM, REDUCE COSTS, IS ACTUALLY WHERE THIS CAME FROM. AND THE CONTRACTOR, AND THIS IS TO ME ONE OF THE BIG BENEFITS OF OUR SEA AT RISK PROCESS. THE CONTRACTOR CAME BACK AND SAID, CAME UP WITH THE CONCEPT OF PLACING THE BUILDING OFF THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND CLOSER TO THE EXISTING BUILDING NOW AND MAKING THE FOOTPRINT SMALLER. ALL OF A SUDDEN, UH, THIS SEAM LIKE A MUCH BETTER ALTERNATIVE DUE TO PRICE. IT ALSO ALLOWS, UH, WHILE THE SCHOOL BEING BUILT FOOTBALL TO REMAIN AVAILABLE TO THE SCHOOL FOR USE. SO IT HAS LESS IMPACT ON THE SCHOOL. UM, IT COULD BE BUILT FASTER. UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS A THREE STORY MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH FOR, WHICH IS THE CLASSROOM WING. SO BASICALLY, WHICH MAKES COMPLETELY SENSE, GOOD SENSE IN A MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR PLANNING BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE A SIXTH GRADE FLOOR, A SEVENTH GRADE FLOOR, AND AN EIGHTH GRADE FLOOR. IT, IT JUST ACTUALLY WORKS SO PROGRAMMATICALLY IT WORKS BETTER, COST-WISE, IT WORKS BETTER. UM, IMPACT ON THE SCHOOL IS LESS. AND PART OF THE OTHER REASON FOR THE BIG COST IS 'CAUSE THIS SITE HAS A LOT OF REALLY MAGNIFICENT OAK TREES. AND NOW WE ARE ABLE TO LEAVE THE FOOTBALL FIELD. WE DON'T HAVE TO TEAR DOWN AS MANY TREES. SO WE CAN LEAVE A LOT OF MORE OF THOSE SPECIMEN TREES THERE. I SAY ALL THAT AND SAY, THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SCHOOL SITE THOUGH IS TO BUILD A THREE STORY SCHOOL. THIS CURRENT ZONING ONLY ALLOWS FOR TWO AND A HALF. SO WE ACTUALLY WENT TO THE CITY OF BEAUFORT AND SAID, CAN WE GET A VARIANCE FROM A TWO AND A HALF TO A THREE STORY BUILDING? AND THEY LOOKED AT IT AND TALKED ABOUT IT AND EVERYBODY ACTUALLY LIKES [01:20:01] THE CONCEPT AND LIKES WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. SAYS, YEAH, YOUR PLAN'S A BETTER PLAN. BUT THEY RECOMMENDED WE NOT LOOK AT A VARIANCE, BUT INSTEAD REZONED SITE. 'CAUSE THEY SAID OUR SITE IS ACTUALLY NOT ZONED PROPERLY FOR A SCHOOL ANYWAY, ALTHOUGH IT'S GRANDFATHERED. WE SHOULD GO FOR MORE OF A SCHOOL ZONING, WHICH IS IC, WHICH IS INSTITUTION CLASSIFICATION THAT ALLOWS FOR THREE STORY STRUCTURE. SO SAY ALL THAT SUM UP, THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE, WE'RE HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TO OCCUR, PART OF THAT PROCESS IS, AND PART OF THAT APPLICATION IS THE BOARD HAS TO RE UH, RECOMMEND THAT THIS SITE REZONED. UM, AND SO THAT, I'LL STOP TALKING, SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND WHAT AND WHAT AND WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE YOU SAID REZONING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY CHANGING AREAS THAT MAY ATTEND THAT SCHOOL OR NO, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STUDENT REZONING, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT ZONING, REONE, I MEAN LIKE RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. LAND USE, LAND PLANNING. SO YEAH, THIS IS A DIFFERENT REZONE AND STUDENT, RIGHT. NOTHING TO WITH STUDENTS. AND AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL GOES, EVER ZONE IT'S IN HAS NO, NO ONE WOULD KNOW OTHERWISE AT THE SCHOOL SITE OR HOW IT'S USED. IT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD THERE. WHAT, UH, WHY WE HAVE TO GO FOR THE REZONING, RIGHT? BECAUSE NOT BECAUSE I JUST DON'T, WHEN WHEN PEOPLE SEE THAT, THEY GONNA AUTOMATICALLY THINK ABOUT, I EVEN WHEN I READ, I THINK I, WHEN I SAID REZONING, UH, YEAH, UH, REZONING. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT IN TERMS OF STUDENTS AND, UH, AND SINCE AND SO ON, BUT EVEN, EVEN WITH THE, UH, SO WELL YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE INITIAL PRO, THE INITIAL PRO, UH, PROJECT THAT YOU BOUGHT US THE FIRST TIME OR THAT, THAT YOU BOUGHT BE BEFORE THE FIRST TIME. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THIS SHEET, IT'S BASICALLY, YOU SEE THE TWO FOOTPRINTS ARE ON HERE. SO THE, THE SCHOOL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, IF I IS IN RIGHT, THE OUTLINE, RIGHT? AND IT SITS ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD, RIGHT? AND IT WAS A TWO STORY ACADEMIC STRUCTURE AND ONE WING AND A ONE STORY ON THE OTHER. RIGHT NOW, IF THE DASH LINE HERE IS THE EXISTING SCHOOL SITE, NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS ORANGE LINE, WHICH IS A NEW BUILDING THAT'S COMING IN CLOSER TO THE SCHOOL SITE. BUT THIS WING RIGHT HERE IS NOW THREE STORIES. SO, SO, SO, SO WE'RE COMING BACK CLOSER TO THAT LAND THAT WE WERE STAYING AT THAT, THAT WE DIDN'T WANT BEFORE. SO BASICALLY WE WE'RE COMING CLOSER BACK TO, TO, TO THAT LAND. NOW THAT WE SAID THAT WE WEREN'T INTERESTED IN BECAUSE NO, IT'S, WE'RE STAYING ON THE SCHOOL SITE. RIGHT? BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT IF WE, WHEN WE WERE BUILDING WHERE IF, IF SO, WHERE WOULD THE SCHOOL BE AT ON THAT? WOULD THE SCHOOL BE AT WHERE THAT GREAT POINT IS THAT, SO YEAH, BASICALLY MR. SMITH, THIS AREA HERE IS WHERE THE FIELD HOUSE IS, WHERE THE F THE OLD, UH, UH, BEHIND THE GYM, BETWEEN THE GYM AND THE, AND THE TRACK AND THE FOOTBALL FIELD, RIGHT? SO THE AREA DOWN HERE, THAT'S NOT EVEN IN THE, WE'RE WE'RE NOT CLOSE TO THAT AREA AT ALL. OKAY. BASICALLY, INSTEAD OF BEING ON, ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD, WE'RE BUILDING BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE FOOTBALL FIELD, SIR. BUT A THREE STORY BUILDING VERSUS THE, VERSUS THE TWO STORY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST TIME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT, WHAT IS THE FINANCIAL, UH, BURDEN ON THE DISTRICT TO HAVE THAT PROPERTY REZONED LAWYER'S FEES? SO, I MEAN, ALL IN ALL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS THAN, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER. LET'S JUST SAY IT'S LESS THAN 50,000, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT'S SAVING US MORE THAN 50,000. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA, UH, THAT'S WHAT I, THE POINT THAT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE. YES. I MEAN WE, I THINK DID THAT INCLUDE FOR THE ARCHITECTURE FEE TO REDESIGN AN ENTIRE NEW SCHOOL? NO, NO. 'CAUSE WE'RE AT THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN BEYOND. OH, OKAY. SO, ALRIGHT, WE'RE FINDING THIS OUT EARLY ENOUGH THAT, AND THAT CAN I, IF I CAN JUST PROMOTE THE CMR PROCESS. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT BROUGHT THIS IDEA, NOT THE ARCHITECT. AND THAT IS WHY WE WANT THEM ON EARLY. 'CAUSE THEY, THEY LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID, HEY, WE CAN CONSTRUCT THIS FASTER, BETTER, CHEAPER. YOU DID THIS. AND WE STARTED LOOKING AT IT AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD IDEA , AND IF YOU MIND CHIME IN, THE CITY DID SAY THAT THIS IS MORE PREFERABLE BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE LESS LAND DISTURBANCE. SO IN LESS STORM WATER, STORM WATER IMPACT POSSIBLE. YEAH. EVERYTHING THE CITY SAID WHEN THEY SAW THIS WAS LIKE, WE LIKE THIS IDEA. THIS IS A GOOD PLAN. [01:25:01] SO IS IT GONNA MAKE A COOL SOUND OF THE $6 MILLION MAN , THEY GO STRONGER FAST. ALRIGHT. BUT, BUT, BUT IF WE WERE GRANDFATHERED IN, WE'RE GRANDFATHERED IN TO BUILD THE SCHOOL. SO RIGHT. THE ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW FOR A SCHOOL SITE TO BE ON THIS PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH A SCHOOL SITE IS THERE. AND WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUILD A SCHOOL SITE. NOW, WE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE ALLOWED TO BUILD A THREE STORY SCHOOL SITE BECAUSE SCHOOL IS NOBODY. PEOPLE DON'T FIGHT AGAINST SCHOOLS IN A LOT OF PLACES. ALL ZONING ALLOWS FOR SCHOOLS. RIGHT, RIGHT. IT'S KIND OF UNCOMMON TO HAVE THIS WHERE A SCHOOL'S NOT ALLOWED. I'VE KIND OF NOT HEARD OF THAT BEFORE, BUT, RIGHT. AND, AND I, I, I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW IF I WANT, IF I WANT US TO BEND AT THE MERITS OF THE CITY OF BEAUFORT IS IS IS IN, IN TERMS OF MAKING THEM COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT, WITH WHAT WE DO. BECAUSE TO ME, I I, I SEE IT KIND OF CRAZY BECAUSE I, I, I THINK THERE WAS JUST, THERE WASN'T IT JUST SOMETHING THAT PASSED AND SEE THE BE ABOUT THEM BUILDING, UH, TALL, TALLER, TALLER BUILDINGS OR SO, UH, OR SOMETHING ALONG ALONG THAT. SO REALISTICALLY, TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, THAT IS REALLY ON TO, ON LAY ON LAYS ISLAND A LITTLE BIT. SO, AND, AND, AND, UH, THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR, THE SCHOOL TO THE PROPERTY. SO I, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY THEY WANTS TO CHANGE, TO CHANGE ALL THAT. BECAUSE REALLY ONCE YOU CHANGE THAT IN, IN THAT, IN THAT ZONING AREA, THEN IT OPENS IT UP FOR, FOR, FOR OTHER, FOR OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL. WE ARE ONLY CHAIN THE ZONING ON OUR PROPERTY. RIGHT. BUT WHAT BUT HOW IT GOES IS YEAH, OTHER PEOPLE. EXACTLY. ONCE, ONCE, ONCE THEY LET US MORE, RIGHT. OTHER PEOPLE NEARBY WANT TO BUILD AN INSTITUTION, RIGHT, LIKE A SCHOOL, HOSPITAL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEN YES. THAT, LIKE, SO THE HOSPITAL HAD TO DO THIS WHEN THEY BUILT, THEY HAD TO BE REZONED RIGHT? TO THE INSTITUTIONAL CLASSIFICATION, WHICH ACTUALLY FITS THEIR USE BETTER. LIKE US, IT ACTUALLY IS MADE THAT ZONING IS MADE FOR US AND WE'RE NOT USING, 'CAUSE WE'RE AN INSTITUTIONAL, WE ARE AN INSTITUTION. SO INSTITUTIONAL CLASSIFICATION MAKES SENSE. GO AHEAD. SO DOES THE INSTITUTIONAL CLASSIFICATION CHANGE, UH, HOW WE, LIKE, IS IT GONNA CHANGE LIKE, UH, ANY OF OUR REQUIREMENTS TO THE, THE COUNTY? LIKE I MEAN, IS IT GONNA CHANGE OUR LIKE, UH, PROPERTY TAX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE DON'T PAY FOR PROPERTY TAX, BUT IT, THE ONLY THING IT CHANGES IS THE WAY WE'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD ON SITE OR WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD. YEAH. AND WHAT EVERYBODY DOES AROUND US IS, IS TRANSPARENT, NEGLIGIBLE DUST. THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO FOR THEIR OWN. YEAH. THAT, THAT'S THEIR OWN REZONING IF THEY WANTED TO. AND, AND THAT MAY BE TRUE, BUT I KNOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WHEN WE, WHEN WHEN CITY WAS TALKING ABOUT THEM BUILDING, UH, THAT TALL BUILDING, A LOT OF PEOPLE WAS AGAINST IT BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT IT OPENS THIS AREA UP TO HAVING THREE STORY BUILDINGS. AND PEOPLE MAY NOT WANT THOSE THREE STORY BUILDINGS OR BUILDINGS THAT TALL AROUND THEIR HOUSE. SO ONCE AGAIN, AS, AS SOMEONE MY, AS SOMEONE KNOWING THAT AND, AND THE TOOLS, WHAT THE CONVERSATIONS THAT PRIDE TO MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE HAD, TH TH THIS THIS RINGS OUT A CAUTIONARY IN MY, IN MY MIND BECAUSE LIKE ONCE, LIKE I SAID, ONCE AGAIN, ONCE WE OPEN THE PANDORA'S BOX, IT'S OPEN. AND, AND WHEN THEY CAN'T SAY, OH, WELL JUST A, A CONTRACTOR MAY SAY, OH, WELL, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A SCHOOL, Y'ALL ALLOWED THE SCHOOL TO DO IT. SO, HEY, I I HAVE, I HAVE A A A A BUYER RIGHT HERE WHO WANTED US TO DO THE SAME THING RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE SCHOOL. SO THEY CAN'T TELL A NO JUST BECAUSE THEY, THEY OPENED IT UP TO US THEN, THEN, THEN THAT, THAT BRINGS THE CITY, YOU KNOW? SO, AND I ALSO, I DON'T WANNA BE BE, I DON'T WANT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO BE USED FOR A, FOR THE STUFF TO BE STARTED. AND, AND, AND I, AND I, AND I CAN SEE PEOPLE IN THAT, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMING AND SAYING THAT THEY MAY NOT WANT THAT TO BE FOR, FOR US, FOR, FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE, THAT KNOWINGLY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN COME ABOUT BECAUSE IT, THEY WERE VERY EXPRESS, THEY WERE VERY, UM, INTENTIONAL ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS IN TERMS OF WHEN BEAUFORT WAS MOVING THAT PROJECT FORWARD. I THINK THAT THAT PROJECT IS STILL IN COURT OR WAS JUST, JUST, JUST GOT OUTTA COURT ABOUT THE, UH, THREE STORY BUILDINGS AND, AND, AND, AND IN, IN THE AREA OF THE CITY. SO I JUST WANNA PUT, PUT THAT OUT THERE. SO I MEAN, WE, WE WON'T BE SURPRISED IF SOMEONE WOULD COME FORTH AND, AND NOT AGREE WITH THIS PROJECT. YEAH. I'M GLAD YOU DID BRING UP SOMETHING I FORGOT TO BRING UP, WHICH WAS ANOTHER POINT. SO THE TWO STORY BUILDING WAS RIGHT NEAR THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE. SO BY BUILDING A THREE STORY BUILDING, WE'RE MOVING IT WAY AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCE. SO AS THE, THAT WAS ANOTHER THING WE BROUGHT UP TO THE CITY THAT THEY ALSO AGREED THAT THAT'LL PROBABLY BE, THEY, THERE MAY BE PEOPLE THAT DISAGREE, BUT IT MAY BE MORE, MORE BENEFICIAL FOR THOSE RESIDENTS TO MOVE THE BUILDING FURTHER AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE THREE STORIES THAN BE RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE WITH THE TWO STORY BUILDINGS. SO JUST THAT WAS ANOTHER PROB OKAY. VERY POINT. PEOPLE OVER THERE. ALRIGHT, IF, UM, UM, FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IF YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, THERE'S [01:30:01] A MOTION TO BE MADE. DOES ANYBODY CARE TO READ THE MOTION? I'M NOT SEEING A MOTION. WHAT? THAT YOU SCROLL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE, THE BOTTOM RECOMMEND MOTION. THE LAST PAGE OF, OF THE . YES, I PLEASE DO. THANK YOU. OPERATIONS COMMITTEE SUPPORTS REZONING APPLICATION FOR THE LADIES, OUR LITTLE SCHOOL PROPERTY FROM SUBURBAN DISTRICT T THREE DASH S DISTRICT TO AN INSTITUTIONAL AND CAMPUS DISTRICT IC AND RECOMMENDS BOARD REVIEW AND APPROVAL. SECOND. I'LL SECOND. SECOND CAR. SECOND. YEP. ANY DISCUSSION? UH, YES. I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT, AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT IT. 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE MY CONSTITUENTS ARE, ARE ARE ON THIS. AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT THE CONSTITUENTS BEFORE, BEFORE TAKING IT TO, UH, TO SAYING THAT WE WANT TO, UH, PUT IT OUT THERE. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT SHOULD HAVE, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, UH, PUBLICLY. UM, AND SO AS A, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS AREA, AND I'VE HAD SOME OF THOSE SAME PEOPLE WHO, WITH THAT SAME ISSUE YOU JUST BROUGHT UP IN TERMS OF WHO WERE BEING CLOSE TO THE BUILDING, THEY BROUGHT UP SOME ISSUES AND NOW I'M NOT SURE WHERE PEOPLE MAY, MAY STAND STILL. SO, UM, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE THEY, THEY, BECAUSE OF, I'M NOT SURE WHERE MY CONSTITUENTS WILL STAND ON THIS. UH, SO I, I, I, AT THIS POINT IN TIME UNTIL I GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FROM THEM, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS. ALRIGHT. UH, JUST ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALRIGHT, UH, UH, WELL, I MEAN, MR. SMITH, JUST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT TELLING YOU HOW TO DEVOR UH, DEVOTE OUR SUPPORT, UH, BUT JUST WE'RE AVOIDING TO TAKE IT TO THE FULL BOARD. THE FULL BOARD IS GONNA DISCUSS IT, AND WHEN IT GOES ONTO THE AGENDA, YOUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT THEN AND, AND THEN EVEN COME TO THE FULL BOARD AND MAKE COMMENTS. UH, SO I'M, I'M JUST, I MEAN, YOU CAN VOTE EITHER WAY. I'M, I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOU, YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE STILL GONNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO, TO LOOK AT IT AND, AND MAKE YOUR DECISIONS ABOUT IT EITHER WAY. BUT, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, I, I, I JUST TO RESPOND, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE ALSO COULD HAVE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING AND, AND, AND LIKE, HOW WAS SAYING COUNTY COUNCIL'S HAVING A, A MEETING ABOUT CHANGING THEIR, UH, CHANGING THE WAY HOW WE INTERATE OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND SOME OTHER STUFF. I THINK THAT WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE ADDRESSED THIS WITH THE PUBLIC AS WELL. UH, VERSUS THE QUESTION WOULD BE HOW SOON DO, HOW SOON, HOW SOON DO, UH, DO, DO, DO WE NEED THIS, THIS MOTION? HOW, HOW, I MEAN, IS, IS THERE A RUSH ON THIS? UM, I MEAN, YES, BECAUSE THIS DECIDES HOW WE'RE GONNA BUILD THE BUILDING. UM, WE'RE THE BUILDING WILL BE ON HOLD UNTIL THIS DECISION IS MADE. SO IT COULD JEOPARDIZE THE OPENING OF SCHOOL IN 2027. WELL, YEAH, YOU SEE, AND, AND THAT'S MY ISSUE. THERE'S ALWAYS A, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS A RUSH. SO, UH, W WITH, WITH, WITH, WITH THAT, ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY MAY FEEL ABOUT THAT. SO THEREFORE, UNTIL, UNTIL I HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING HOW, YEAH, I CAN'T SEE THAT. BUT I THINK WE PROVIDED TO HAVE A COMMITTEE MEETING ABOUT THIS. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS OUT THERE. THERE'S BEEN SECONDED. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS TO THE FULL BOARD, UH, SIGNIFIED BY SAYING RIGHT HAND. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION PASSES THREE ONE. THAT MEANS IT WILL NOT BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. CORRECT. ALRIGHT, TO THE NEXT ONE. WE GET TWO OF THESE IN ONE MONTH. THIS IS NOT COMMON. UM, BUT THIS IS THE BLUFFTON, UM, THE EARLY CHILDHOOD CENTER IN BLUFFTON. NOW THIS IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS FOR AN ANNEXATION INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. UM, THIS IS THE, UH, PROPERTY THAT WE'VE CALLED IN THE PAST, THE N NISSAN PROPERTY NEXT TO RIVERRIDGE ACADEMY. UM, IT WILL BE USED IN SOME WAY, UH, FOR THE EARLY CHILDHOOD CENTER. THERE'S A COUPLE VERSIONS GOING AROUND, UH, RIGHT NOW WHERE, UM, AND, AND THOSE ARE STILL BEING WORKED OUT, WHETHER A PART OF THIS PROJECT IS ON THIS PRODUCT SITE OR IT COULD ALSO BE ON THE RIVERRIDGE SITE NEAR THE FIRE STATION. ANYWAY, LOOK AT IT. RIGHT NOW, RIVER RIDGE IS ZONED FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. THIS PROPERTY IS ADJACENT, IT IS A DONUT HOLE IN THE AREA AS FAR AS RIVER RIDGE AND ALL THE PROPERTIES ON BLUFFTON PARKWAY, WHICH IS OURS. THE, UM, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER PARCEL DOWN FROM US AND THE FIRE STATION ARE ALL WITHIN THE COUNTY, BUT EVERYONE ELSE IN THE AREA IS WITHIN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON DOES SUPPORT THIS PROCESS. THE PURPOSE OF US TO, UH, REZONE THIS WITH, SO THAT IT'D BE CONTIGUOUS WITH THE RIVERRIDGE ACADEMY, UH, PROJECT AND THE, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BLUFFTON PERMITTING PROCESS AS BEING MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO US. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING, [01:35:01] UH, HAVING THIS ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. WE ACTUALLY DID THE SAME THING FOR RIVERRIDGE ACADEMY BEFORE WE BUILT THAT SITE. WE ANNEXED IT INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FOR THE EXACT SAME REASONS ARE. AND SO YOUR PACKET, BY THE WAY, ARE ALL THE PARCELS THAT HAVE TO BE CONTACTED FOR THE ANNEXATION PROCESS. AS FAR AS COST FOR THIS, AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE LAWYERS' FEES LESS. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT LET'S JUST THROW OUT LESS THAN 50,000. I FEEL CONFIDENT IN THAT. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTION? OKAY. AND, AND WHAT WAS THE PRO, WHAT WAS THE PROS OF, OF OF ANNING TO BUFFIN PRIOR TO TO BUFFIN? SO THE TWO BIG ONES, UH, ARE THE PERMITTING TIME. UH, THE COUNTY IS LONGER AND THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE COUNTY HAVE ARE MORE COSTLY. AND SO BY GOING INTO TOWN OF BLUFFTON, WE SHORTEN OUR PERMIT TIME AND WE LOWER OUR COST OF CONSTRUCTION. THERE WE GO. ANY ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT, CAROL? NO. THAT, I'D SAY THAT MOST OF OUR SCHOOLS IN THE BLUFFTON CLUSTER ARE IN THE TOWN EXCEPT FOR . AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S SO FAR OUT OF THEIR, THEIR TOWN. AND, AND REMEMBER RIVERRIDGE IS IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, RIGHT? SO IF WE BUILD THIS AND IT'S IN THE COUNTY, IT, THOSE TWO PRO, THOSE TWO SCHOOLS WILL BE NEXT TO EACH OTHER. AND ONE WILL BE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, ONE WILL BE IN THE COUNTY, WHICH MAY, IF YOU START TALKING ABOUT SROS, THAT NOW YOU COULD HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WOULD BE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IN ONE AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE OTHER, WHICH THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. THAT'S A VALID, YES. YEAH. SO THE, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD MOVE. MAKE, UH, SAW WHAT YOU SAID MAKES IT EASIER. IT DOESN'T, WHEN I WAS READING IT DOESN'T SAY YOU A NEXT INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. IS THAT NECESSARY IN THE MOTION? SO I DO HAVE A NEW MOTION. OKAY. BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY TALKED WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TODAY. OKAY. I DID SEND IT TO YOU VIA EMAIL. I DO HAVE A PAPER COPY, WHICH I MAY NOT HAVE BROUGHT. UM, UH, SO I WILL FILL IT UP OR IF PROVINCE, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND OUR ATTORNEY. AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT THIS CONVERSATION HAPPENED ABOUT ONE O'CLOCK TODAY. , YOU SAID IT WAS A RECOMMENDED MOTION BY THE, BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. MM-HMM . FOR INVERTING FOR THE, FOR THE ANNEXATION PROCESS. 'CAUSE THE PROBLEM IS, YOU KNOW, TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY, THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE, UM, THE ANNEXATION. AND THIS WAS THE VERBIAGE THAT OUR ATTORNEY IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON SAID FULFILLS THAT STATE REQUIREMENT FOR ANNEXATION. I APOLOGIZE. YOU HAVE IT, ROBIN? I DO. THERE YOU GO. YOU CAN PUT THAT IS THE MO SOUNDS LIKE A LAWYER WROTE IT. THIS YEP. . WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT TOO BROAD. YEAH. YES. AND YOU KNOW, YOU COULD GO WITH A LIGHTER ONE, HAVE THAT ONE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD, BUT IN CASE YOU PUT THIS ON CONSENT AGENDA, IF YOU READ THAT ONE. SO, UH, MR. SMITH, UH, TELL ME IF I'M WRONG OR NOT, BUT KIND OF READING THE ROOM. UH, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO BRING BEFORE THE FULL BOARD ALSO, OR ARE YOU OKAY WITH PUTTING THIS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? I BRING THIS BEFORE THE FULL BOARD, RIGHT? YEAH. UH, UH, SO I MEAN, WE NEED TO PUT IN THERE THAT WE RECOMMEND TAKING IT TO THE FULL BOARD. UM, UM, OR WE TAKE A VOTE. WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO 'CAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, SO YOU CAN AUTOMATICALLY JUST, I'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. OH, OKAY. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT RECOMMENDING IT TO GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. OH, OKAY. SO, UH, ANYBODY WANT TO, TO READ IT? THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, RECOMMEND THE BE COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, PURSUE ANNEXATION INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND REZONING TO RESIDENTIAL GENERAL OF BE COUNTY TAX MAP PARCEL R 600 0 2, 9 0 0 0 0 0 3 4 0 0 0 0 AND R 600 0 2 9 0 0 0 0 1 1 A 0 0 0 0. [01:40:01] AND AUTHORIZE THE SUPERINTENDENT ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO SIGN ALL PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS AND DOCUMENTS REQUIRED BY THE TIME OF BLUFFING TO COMPLETE SUCH ANNEXATION AND RESIGN. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION NONE IS OUT THERE HAS BEEN SECONDED. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. AYE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. THREE. ONE OPPOSED? YEAH. OPPOSED? YES, MA'AM. AUGUST SENIOR UP. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY FOR ALLOWING ME TO GIVE YOU THE INSTRUCTIONAL UPDATES THROUGH THE MONTH OF JANUARY, 2025. UM, STARTING AS USUAL WITH 2019 BOND REFERENDUM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE CLOSEOUTS OF THE REMAINING PROJECTS FOR REFERENDUM. UH, I, I KNOW THAT THIS REPORT SAYS 24, BUT I DID GET A COUPLE OF CLOSEOUTS FOR THIS. AND WE DO EXPECT TO RECEIVE WARRANT MONTH FEBRUARY. WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH THE CONTRACTORS TO GET THEIR CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS TO FINALIZE OUR FINANCES AND GET THOSE CODE OF WORK ADJUSTMENTS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROCEED THE FULL CLOSEOUT OF THIS . UH, AS OF NOW, THE FINANCIAL SUMMARY, WE ARE SHOWING A TOTAL OF 20, UH, 215 FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS COMPLETED TO DATE. UH, THE FINANCIALS, UH, PAYING COMMITTED FUNDS TOTALING, UH, 373.61 MILLION. UH, UP TO DATE. UH, THE REMAINING AVAILABLE FUNDS, INCLUDING THE CONTINGENCY, WE HAVE ABOUT $2.1 MILLION REMAINING. THE CONTINGENCY ACTIVITY IN JANUARY, WE DID NOT SEE MANY, UH, SAVINGS RETURN, UH, A LITTLE OVER $400 IN, UH, USE OF 321,000 UH, DOLLARS IN THE CONTINGENCY. AS OF THE END OF JANUARY, THE REMAINING CONTINGENCY WAS $884,000. UH, GIVE OR TAKE, ANY QUESTIONS IN 2019? UH, THE, I SAW, OH, WAIT A MINUTE. UH, I THINK I SAW SOMEWHERE. WHAT DID I SEE THAT, UH, THAT WE WERE WAITING ON FOR CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS SINCE 2023, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT DID FALL BEHIND IN THE, IN THE PROCESS, AND IT WAS DEALING WITH ISSUES WITH CONTRACTORS NOT HAVING SUFFICIENT WORKFORCES, HIRING CONTRACTORS THAT WERE NOT DOING THE WORK AS THEY WERE INTENDED TO. WE EVENTUALLY HAD TO GET OUR TEAM TO GO AND DO INSPECTIONS WITH CONTRACTORS TO BASICALLY GIVE 'EM A LIST OF CORRECTIONS THAT THEY HAD TO DO SO THAT THE WORK WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS WERE, UH, CALLING OUT FOR. SO A LOT OF THAT CLEANUP TOOK PLACE IN THE PAST YEAR, AND THIS IS WHY IT'S TAKEN SLOW STEPS TO GET THESE THINGS TO THE CLOSEOUT. WHY? SO IS THE CLOSEOUT PAPERWORK DATE SET BEFORE THE WORK IS COMPLETE? NO, NO, NO, NO, BECAUSE I I I, I COULD HAVE SWORN I, I MEAN, I CAN SEE IF I CAN FIND IT SOMEWHERE, UH, BUT I COULD HAVE SWORE IT SAID THAT THE CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS WERE DUE IN FOURTH QUARTER OF 2023. AND WE'RE, THEY'RE STILL PENDING. YEAH. SO THAT WAS THE TARGETED DATES. THAT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING IS, IS THERE A TARGET, IS THERE A DATE THAT, THAT WAS THE TAR THAT WAS THE TARGETED DATE AND WE JUST KEPT THEM FROM WHEN WE INITIALLY DID THE, THE PROGRAM RESET AND THEN EVENTUALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE CREATED A COLUMN FOR THE ACTUALS WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY RECEIVING THEM. SO WE'LL REPORT IT IN THAT, UH, REPORTING. I MEAN, YOU SAW IT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHEN WE HAD CLOSEOUT. YEAH. COME THROUGH, WE GIVE YOU THE ACTUALS, THE NEXT REPORT. THANK YOU. WE ARE MOVING FROM THE LIST. THAT WAY YOU START BRINGING THE LIST DOWN. SO THAT'S WHAT I, I EXPLAINED NEXT MONTH YOU'LL SEE SOME ACTUALS COME IN THAT COLUMN, AND THEN THE NEXT MONTH YOU'LL SEE THOSE PROJECTS COME OFF THE REPORTS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. YES. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? 2019. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ALONG TO THE 2023 REFERENDUM. UM, I, WE HAVE ALL THE PROJECTS REPORTING GREEN LIGHTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAY RIVER ELEMENTARY. WE HAVE A YELLOW TRAFFIC LIGHT, AND THAT IS REGARDING THE PERMITS WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, WHICH ARE BASICALLY PENDING THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE PPOA FROM, UH, PALMETTO BLUFF. UM, NOT GETTING TOO MANY DETAILS WITH THAT. I KNOW THAT EVERYTHING'S GETTING WORKED OUT, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN CHANGE THAT TO A GREEN LINE, UH, VERY SOON. MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL, CTE, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DID NOT ATTEND, WE HAD THE, UH, GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY THIS MORNING, OR THIS, THIS AFTERNOON. MY APOLOGIES. UH, WE HAVE FOUNDATIONS TO SEWER RELOCATION, SO ARE STARTING, HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK. SOPA IS READY. WE'RE READY TO, UH, ROLL ROCK AND ROLL ON THAT PROJECT. UH, THE NEW EARLY CENTER, [01:45:01] MR. OTTING REPORTED ON THAT, AS WELL AS THE LADIES ALLEN MIDDLE SCHOOL PROJECT. SO WE'RE GONNA SKIP OVER THOSE UPDATES UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THOSE. ALL RIGHT. UH, THE FINANCIAL UPDATES FOR THE 23 REFERENDUM. UH, THE CURRENT REFERENDUM BUDGET HAS NOT CHANGED FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED, WHICH, UH, APPROVED, WHICH WAS 439 POINT, UH OH, $3 MILLION PAID AND COMMITTED FUNDS TO, TO DATE ARE $178.81 MILLION. THE REMAINING AVAILABLE, UH, FUNDS, INCLUDING THE CONTINGENCY, RIGHT NOW WE'RE TOTALING A LITTLE BIT OVER 260 POINT 22 MILLION. WE HAVE NO ACTIVITY FOR THE CONTINGENCY USED IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY, AND AS OF NOW, THE PROGRAM CONTINGENCY STILL REMAINS AT 11, UH, $0.4 MILLION. UH, OTHER PRO ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING 23 FINANCIALS THAT I NEED TO CLARIFY ON, UH, THAT I NEED TO GO BACK HOUR TO GET DOWN WITH THIS. HOW YOU DONE? ALRIGHT, UH, MOVING TO THE OTHER PROJECT UPDATES, AGAIN, OTHER PROJECT UPDATES. THERE ARE, THESE ARE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FROM THE 8%. UH, ANY FOOD SERVICE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENTS, UH, THOSE PROJECTS ARE ALL REPORTING WITH THE GREEN TRAFFIC LIGHT. AND AGAIN, UH, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT ON THE MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL, UH, CAFETERIA EXPANSION, UH, THOSE FOUNDATIONS, UH, THERE WERE, THE REPORT SAYS THAT WERE SCHEDULED TO BE BEGIN IN FEBRUARY. THOSE FOUNDATIONS HAVE DEVELOPED ALREADY. SO THAT'S ALL PART OF TODAY. YEAH, THAT'S PART THAT'S MOVING IN, IN HANDLED WITH THE CTE PROJECT OVER ON BAY RIVER, UH, HIGH SCHOOL, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, OBVIOUSLY THE GROUNDBREAKING. SO WE'RE GONNA SKIP PAST THAT. I'LL MOVE TO THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND QUALIFICATIONS. UH, THE RFQ FOR PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES FOR BLUFFTON HIGH SCHOOL CTE BUILDING THAT WAS, UH, AWARDED TO JUMPER CARTER CS, UH, THE RFQ FOR THE RIVERVIEW CHARTER SCHOOL GYMNASIUM. THAT PROJECT WAS AWARDED TO CAP CO ARCHITECTS. ANY QUESTION REGARDING CONSTRUCTION UPDATES? RIGHT. AND, AND, BUT, AND, AND, UM, ALL, UM, THOSE ONES THAT SHE JUST REPORTED ON, THOSE WERE ALREADY VOTED BY THE BOARD RIGHT? FOR APPROVAL? THAT IS CORRECT. THAT WAS APPROVED ON FEBRUARY 4TH, TALKING ABOUT, UM, NOW I, BEFORE YOU KNOW YOUR REPORT, I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS IN, IN TERMS OF, UM, HIGH NOTE THAT, UH, WE, WE, WE WORKED ON THE GYMNASIUM TOO, AS WELL OVER AT, UM, THE LA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND WAS TOLD, I WAS TOLD THAT THE AC IS NOT FIXED YET, AND THE AC WILL, UH, WELL, I WAS TOLD THAT IT PROBABLY WON'T BE READY BY, BY BY THE SUMMER. UH, WELL, WHAT'S THE, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT, THAT MAINTENANCE REQUEST? YEAH, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT AND FIND OUT. I, I, THAT DOESN'T SOUND REASONABLE, BUT I, I'LL GET INTO THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS, OKAY. I WOULD ASSUME IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT PROBABLY PUT A WORK ORDER AND IT SHOULD BE IN THEIR DOMAIN AND LOG OF WHAT ITEMS THEY NEED TO CORRECT FOR HVAC. YOU SAID LADIES ISLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL GYM? YES, SIR. GYM GYMNASIUM? YES, SIR. ELEMENTARY. ELEMENTARY. NO, YEAH, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. YEAH, ELEMENTARY. ELEMENTARY. AND UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION EARLIER IN TERM IN TERMS OF, UM, WAS, WAS, WAS ASKED, UH, IN TERMS TERMS OF, UH, PRIOR PRIORITY, UH, IN TERMS OF PRIOR PRIORITY, HOW WE DEAL WITH, WITH, UH, SOME, UH, SOME OF THESE THINGS IN THESE WORK ORDERS, UH, IN TERMS OF ER WAS EMERGENCY, UH, AT, TO WHAT DEGREE DOES THE HEAT INDEX AND IS, IS, IS THERE, IS THERE A CERTAIN HEAT INDEX THAT, THAT WE CAN'T ALLOW OUR KIDS TO BE IN THE, IN, IN, IN, IN THE CLASSROOMS AT? OR HOW DOES THAT, HOW, HOW DOES, HOW, HOW DOES THAT PLAY OUT? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO, TO YOUR POINT, AS FAR AS IMPORTANCE, YEAH, HVAC IS BECOMING A MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT AND CRUCIAL PART OF THE CLASSROOMS. WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS HEAD START AS A FEDERAL REGULATION THAT A, A CERTAIN TEMPERATURE KIDS HAVE TO BE SENT HOME. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. SO THERE IS NOT A SET TEMPERATURE. SO LIKE FOR HEAD START, I THINK IT WAS 68 DEGREES, IF IT GETS BELOW 68 DEGREES, KIDS HAVE TO GO HOME. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT TEMPERATURE AND I 64. AND SO IT'S MORE OF, UH, 64, 60 64 WAS WHAT WAS REPORTED. OKAY. SIX. UM, WELL, THERE IS SET TEMPERATURE. YEAH, I THINK WE MAY HAVE GOTTEN DOWN TO 64, WHICH BE BELOW, I DON'T REALLY, BUT THERE IS A SET TEMPERATURE. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. [01:50:01] IT'S, UM, SUPERINTENDENT OR STAFF'S CALL OR STAFF WOULD NOTIFY THE SUPERINTENDENT. UM, AND, AND WE'D HAVE A CONVERSATION IF WE WERE GONNA SEND KIDS HOME DUE TO TEMPERATURES. RIGHT. AND, AND, AND, AND REASON, AND, AND I'M ASKING THAT I'M, I'M NOT ASKING THAT IN PARTICULARLY ABOUT HEAD START, SO THAT WAS THE WRONG AS ASSUMPTION. UH, AND, BUT IN, IN TERMS OF IT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE, UH, MY, MY QUESTION IS, AS IN THE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF CONCERNS. I KNOW LAST YEAR WHEN WE CAME BACK TO SCHOOL, THERE WERE A LARGE AMOUNT OF CONCERNS ABOUT HEAT, DIFFERENT THINGS. AND A LOT OF PLACES, KIDS, PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT THE KIDS ARE BEING HOT. AND SO WITH KNOWING, KNOWING THAT, JUST IN TERMS OF UNDER UNDERSTANDING THE WHOLE PICTURE OF IT, IT GIVES ME A, A, A AS A BOARD MEMBER, WHEN I'M, WHEN I'M APPROACHED BY A COMMUNITY MEMBER, ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS, AND THEY ASK ABOUT, WELL, MY KIDS' CLASS WAS HOT, IT GIVES ME A GREAT, A, A GREAT, A, A, A, A MARGINALIZED ERROR TO SAY, HEY, LOOK AT, WELL, I KNOW THAT NORMALLY IF THE KIDS' CLASSIFY WAS HOT, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT WHEN IT GETS TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, THE DISTRICT TAKES IT REAL SERIOUS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT MAY EVEN MOVE THE KID AROUND OR, OR SOMETHING. IT GIVES US MORE OF A, OF, OF, UH, A, IT GIVES US MORE OF A STABILITY TO HAVE A, A, A, A LIGHTER CONVERSATION WITH THE PARENT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THEM SAYING, IT'S HOT. HOW, HOW, HOW, HOW HOT, HOW HOT IS HOW HOT IS IS HOT BECAUSE HOT. SO SOMEONE COULD BE IN THIS ROOM, BUT SOMEONE ELSE'S ROOM COULD BE COLD. SO WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S THAT TEMPERATURE? AND UNDER, UNDER UNDERSTANDING THAT, I, I THINK THAT THAT, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING TO, THAT WE NEED TO, OR IT'S A QUESTION OF UNDERSTANDING, EVEN IN WORK ORDERS, HOW OUR, UH, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED HOW TO, HOW DO WE PUT WHICH ONE FIRST OR WHAT'S PRIORITY AND WHAT'S NOT, EVEN THOUGH SHE SAID SAFE. SO MY QUESTION IS HOW WILL, HOW WOULD THAT FIT IN TO WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT, RIGHT NOW? AND IT PREPARED ME. IT SEEMS LIKE WE, WE MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER, BUT I THINK THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING TO MOVE FORWARD TOO, UH, UPON AS, AS TIME GO BY OF KNOWING, GETTING READY TO COME INTO THE, INTO THE HOT SEASON. THAT WHAT TEMPERATURE MAY BE TOO HOT FOR OUR STUDENTS TO BE IN THESE CLASSROOMS OR MAY CAUSE A, A SITUATION TO GO FROM THE BACK OF THE LINE TO THE, TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE. BECAUSE WE, WE DO IT IS, IS WE, WE DO WANNA REASSURE PARENTS THAT WE ARE TAKE, WE ARE TAKING THEIR KIDS, UH, UH, BEING HOT, WHICH WE ARE TAKING THOSE, THOSE SITUATIONS SHIFTS BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY UNCOMFORTABLE ANYWAY, TO HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF CONVERSATIONS, UH, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED SCHOOL WAS VERY, WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. SO I THINK NOW TO HAVE SOME PERIMETERS AND TO HAVE SOME, SOME, SOME, SOME, SOME MEASURES IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE PARENTS MORE COMFORTABLE THIS TIME I THINK IS, IS I, I I THINK IT IS, IT'LL BE MORE, MORE, MORE, MORE BEFITTING. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, UM, UH, MOVING FORWARD THAT SOMEHOW I'D LIKE FOR US TO START, START TALKING ABOUT THAT AND NOT WAIT UNTIL IT GETS HOT TO START HAVING THOSE CALLS TOO. UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE. SO I DON'T WE WANNA PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA OR WHAT, BUT YEAH, JUST, UH, UM, REFRESH MY MEMORY. LAST SUMMER WHEN SCHOOL STARTED, AND THAT WAS AT ALL THOSE HVACS, DIDN'T YOU, DID YOU IMPLEMENT A NEW PROTOCOL TO SORT OF ADDRESS IT. WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON HVAC , SO YOU MAY WANT, YOU MAY WANNA SHARE THAT, WHAT YOU ACTUALLY DID TO ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM THAT IS COMING OUT IN THE RFP AS WE'VE REVAMPED THE RFP COMPLETELY ON HOW WE'RE HANDLING THAT. UM, SO, UM, I'LL BE GLAD TO GO OVER THAT. BUT OUR PROGRAM, WELL, I MEAN, I, I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AS PART OF, UM, BUT YEAH, I'LL BE GLAD TO GO OVER WHAT OUR, WHAT CHANGES. WE HAVE MADE SOME DRASTIC CHANGES TO MAINTENANCE AND THEY ARE GOING IN NOW, SO, SO, MR. CHAIR, THAT MAY BE, UH, I WAS GONNA SAY, UH, UH, MR. SMITH, IF YOU WANNA, UH, COOK ON THAT FOR A MINUTE WHEN WE GET TO SUGGESTIONS FOR FUTURE TOPICS, IF YOU WANT TO MENTION AT THAT TIME. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE CONTINUE THEN? YES. I THROUGH WITH MY REPORT? YEAH. , ANY FURTHER QUESTION? ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, THE LAST ITEM, OE EIGHT. NOW THIS IS BASICALLY, AND FOR THE NEW MEMBER BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS A, A GOOD DOCUMENT TO REFERENCE. 'CAUSE BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS REPORTING ALL THE REQUIRE. OE EIGHT IS OUR, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE OR OE FROM THE BOARD THAT COVERS FACILITIES. AND HERE'S WHERE WE REPORT, HOW WE MET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO BASICALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, GOT AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF OE EIGHT, IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT YOU'LL SEE EACH OF THE ITEMS [01:55:01] ARE IN BOLD, AND THEN OUR INTERPRETATION OF THOSE ITEMS IS WHAT'S WRITTEN AFTER THAT. AND THEN AFTER THE SUMMATION, WE SHOW MONITORING INDICATORS WHERE WE INDICATE HOW EACH OF THESE ITEMS SPENT. SO, UM, I'LL BE GLAD TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE IF YOU'D LIKE. UM, BUT IT BASICALLY GOES THROUGH ALL THE REPORTS AND HOW WE GAVE THOSE TO THE BOARD. SO YOU WANNA START ON PAGE FOUR. THOSE ARE ALL THE MONITORING, UH, INVA IN INDICATORS TALKS ABOUT WHERE WE REPORT, UM, AND WHAT ITEMS WE REPORTED TO EACH FOR THE BOARD FOR ITEM ONE, UM, WHICH WAS DEVELOP A SHORTENED LONG-TERM FACILITIES PLAN. AND THEN IT, IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO MULTIPLE, UH, SUBCATEGORIES. AND, UH, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO? NO, NO. I MEAN, IT'S BEEN POSTED IN THERE. I MEAN, WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT NOW FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS. YOU, YOU DON'T NEED TO GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL. AND SO WELL, WHAT I WOULD LIKE, IF YOU GO TO PAGE SEVEN, LIKE QUARTERLY UPDATES ON PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, AUGUSTINE JUST DID A REPORT FOR YOU. AND SO WE WOULD NOTE ON OUR NEXT TIME THAT HERE ON FEBRUARY 11TH, WE GAVE THAT REPORT. UM, BRANDY GAVE THE REPORT ON MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAL, WHICH BY THE WAY, WE ONLY HAVE TO DO TWICE A YEAR. BUT SINCE WE WERE HAVING SO MANY ISSUES, WE MOVED TO BASICALLY MONTHLY. SO YOU'LL SEE THERE, WE LIST EVERY TIME WE DID A, UH, CUSTODIAL REPORT TO THE COMMITTEE. WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. YOU MAY, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? NEED A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MS. MO CONSENT, IT'S, IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO CONSENT? THE AGENDA? SO MOVED. I SO MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. SO MOTION IS MADE AND SECONDED TO MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THREE ONE. AND THE NEXT ITEM OF FOR BUSINESS IS FUTURE TOPICS. OH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, YEAH. UH, FUTURE, FUTURE TOPICS. UH, WE KNOW THAT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, THE, UM, WHAT, WHAT'S THE WAY TO PUT THIS, UH, TEMPERATURES AROUND THE HVAC IN TERMS OF, UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN TERMS OF HOW, HOW WE'RE GOING TO ATTACK THAT, MOVING INTO THE, UH, SUMMER MONTHS, UH, WHEN THOSE PICK UP. MM-HMM. OKAY. AND, AND WHEN IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALREADY, UM, ACTUALLY, YOU, YOU, YOU PUT A LITTLE, A LITTLE MORE ELEGANT ON IT, YOU SAID, UH, THERE WAS ALREADY A PLAN THAT HE, THAT HE SHOWED. UH, BUT, BUT HE SAID HE MADE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES, SOME MAJOR CHANGES TO THE RP. YEAH. SO THAT WAS AN ISSUE LAST, UH, GOING IN THE SUMMER AND HE COLLECTIVELY, THE OPERATION GROUP DID SOME THINGS TO TRY TO REPORT QUICKER AND TRACK AND WHAT HAVE YOU. RIGHT. BUT I THINK WHAT MSDI IS SAYING NOW IS THAT HE'S TRYING IT EVEN MORE. OKAY. WELL, YES, WE, WE HAVE IN, WE CHANGED OUR, WE'RE NOT, UM, IT'S MORE OVERSIGHT ON HOW TO IMPROVE OUR PERFORMANCE FROM OUR HVA TEAM. WE'RE NOT GETTING DOWN INTO THE MINUTIA OF TEMPERATURES. SO IF YOU WANNA HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, TO ME, THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. THIS IS HOW TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE AND ENSURE THAT CLASSROOMS ARE NOT DOWN FOR, UM, MULTIPLE DAYS OR EVEN LONGER, UH, IN THE FUTURE. SO, I MEAN, IF YOU WANTED A FUTURE TOPIC TO BE IMPROVEMENTS TO, UM, HVAC MAINTENANCE, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING ARE, ARE YOU KIND OF LIKE, UH, THINKING ABOUT, UH, THE, THE CRITERIA THAT TRIGGER IN A, LIKE AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE? YEAH, MORE OF A MORE, YEAH, MORE OF, YEAH, MORE, YEAH. MORE OF A, A CRITERIA THAT, THAT THAT CREATES, UH, EMERGENCY RESPONSE. UH, YEAH. I'M THINKING MORE MORE ALONG THAT LINE. UH, SO I MEAN, IF I, IF I CAN, UM, OUR PROBLEM IN THE PAST HAS BEEN THAT THE NUMBER OF UNITS DOWN ARE GREATER THAN OUR NUMBER OF WORKERS. SO, UM, AND IN THAT CATEGORY, A UNIT IMPACTS MULTIPLE CLASSROOMS WOULD HAVE A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN A UNIT DOWN THAT IMPACTS A SINGLE [02:00:01] CLASSROOM AND CLASSROOMS WOULD HAVE PRIORITY OVER OTHER SPACES IN THE BUILDING. SO THAT'S KIND OF ALREADY ESTABLISHED THE PROBLEM NOW THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING. AND, AND SO, UM, IS THAT, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF, WE WE'RE KIND OF GETTING INTO THE CONVERSATION NOW. LIKE, I MEAN, UNLESS I THINK I, I THINK WE, WE MIGHT WANNA WAIT TO HOLD THAT FOR THAT CONVERSATION WHEN WE GET, WHEN WE GET TO IT. OKAY. BECAUSE I, I WOULD WANNA RESPOND IN THAT AND THAT'S, WE, WE KIND OF, SO, ALRIGHT. ANY THE FUTURE TOPICS? MR. CARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY FUTURE TOPICS? NO, I'M GOOD FOR NOW. THANKS. I I DO, I DO THINK THAT, UM, I, I'LL, I WILL, I WILL. I'LL WAIT ON THAT. I, I I, ANOTHER TOPIC. I MAY EMAIL THE, I MAY EMAIL THE BOARD ON THAT OTHER TOPIC IS I'M GONNA EMAIL YOU, UH, THE BOARD ON THE OTHER TOPIC THAT I'M TAKING AROUND. I IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? ABSOLUTELY. SO, SO, SO IT'S ONLY MOVED. ANY OBJECTION? ANY OBJECTION OF SENDING NO. AND HEARING NO OBJECTION. UH, MOTION PASSES. MAY YOUR ADJOURN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.