Feb 04, 2025 County Council Retreat

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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MEANING TO ORDER AND HE JUST KEEPS THAT'S WHAT THAT'S HIS WHOLE CONCLUSION TO THEM AND YEAH THANK YOU I THINK I'M GONNA GO THESE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL PLANNING RETREAT I PLEDGE TO SUCCEED IN THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO SUSTAIN ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THERE'S NO COVERAGE NOW. THIS MEETING WAS DULY ADVERTISED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT . DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON ZOOM TODAY? WAS ON BEFORE HE WAS ON. THERE HE IS.

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

THE FOUNDER OF GROUP. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION A SECOND. A SECOND THAT RIGHT. WITHOUT OBJECTION.

AGENDA IS APPROVED AND DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC? NO TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC

[6. OPENING REMARKS: Michael Moore, Administrator]

OKAY. LET'S CONTINUE ON. THIS IS GOING TO BE LED BY OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MR. MOORE AND OTHER PERSONNEL ON STAFF AND WE WE ALREADY HAVE A HAND OUT CAN TAKE NOTES ON TO. IT WAS HANDED OUT BY MR. HANK AMUNDSON.

YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING. MADAM CHAIR AND COUNSEL, WELCOME TO OUR RETREAT TEAM. EXCITED TO BE HERE FOR THE FIRST ONE SINCE MY NOW SEVEN TENURE SO GREAT TO BE WITH YOU THIS MORNING. STAFF HAS PUT IN A LOT OF EFFORT THIS TODAY AND WE'RE LOOKING TO PRESENT INFORMATION AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND ESSENTIALLY DEVELOP A PLAN GOING FORWARD FOR THIS YEAR. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS THIS MORNING BUT WE BASICALLY WANT TO TAP APPEARS ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON THIS YEAR. THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO GO BACK, DO SOME WORK AND COME BACK TO YOU ALL. SO THE GOAL IS TO COMING OUT OF THIS WILL HAVE A LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON AND THEN WE WOULD PLAN BRING THESE FORWARD TO COME TO THE COMMITTEE FOR COUNCIL TO GET A VOTE. SO THEN WE'VE GOT ADMINISTRATORS TO GET CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS YEAR.

SO WITH THAT SAID WE'VE BROKEN INTO YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR AGENDA NUMBER ITEMS BUT FIRST OFF WE WANT TO START WITH PERSONNEL. IT'S MY BELIEF THAT OUR PEOPLE ARE MOST IMPORTANT ASSET WE'RE HERE AT THE COUNTY AND THEN NEXT THE FACILITIES WHERE OUR PEOPLE COME TO WORK IN EVERY DAY IS ALSO IMPORTANT. THEN OF COURSE FINANCE WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR ALL THIS SO WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION TOO. WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER ITEMS AND THEN WE'LL WORK TO DEVELOP A LIST FOR PRIORITIES AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS AS HANK IS GOING TO COUNT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HIM AT SOME POINT KIND FUTURE.

HE'S GOING TO KIND OF RUN IT TODAY. WE'LL TAKE NOTES WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION AND THAT IT'LL BE A PARTICIPANT PARTICIPATORY FORMAT IS KIND OF MY GOAL SO I

[7.a. Personnel]

OH IT DOES WORK. OKAY. I'M SORRY WE TESTED IT.

IT SHOULD WORK. WE'LL PUT IT TO THE TEST BECAUSE THAT.

MM HMM. I'M SURE IT'S OPERATOR OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. OKAY. HERE'S WHAT WE WORKED WITH STAFF IN I'D LIKE TO GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO STAFF AND TO OUR CATHERINE IN THIS BUT THIS ARE A NEW CHART WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE IS WE'VE GOT COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY CLERK TO COUNCIL AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WE ALL WORK FOR THE CITIZENS AND THEN IT FLOWS FROM THERE SO YOU ALL HAVE HIRED ME AS THE ADMINISTRATOR LEGAL RIGHT NOW COUNTY ATTORNEY HAVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY POSITION IS VACANT WE HAVE TWO DEPUTIES WE ARE ADVERTISING FOR A COUNTY ATTORNEY POSITION WITH THE GOAL OF HAVING A SINGLE COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT WORKS FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT KNOW COUNCIL HAVING AN ATTORNEY AS WELL SO WE'RE GOING CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION AS TO HOW THAT'S

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WHICH IS GOING TO BE A DIRECT TO ME IN THAT FIRST ROW BELOW ME ARE ALL DIRECT REPORTS SO THESE WILL BE REPORTING DIRECTLY SO ASSISTANT H.R. THE DEPUTY I HAVE DECIDED I WOULD LIKE TO HIRE A DEPUTY SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO ADVERTISING THAT POSITION.

GIVEN THE WORKLOAD I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE PIO MS..

NICHOLS WILL BE WORKING ME AS WELL AND THEN MS.. HARRY IS THE CFO BUT YOU'LL NOTICE WITH CFO WE DON'T HAVE THEM ALL BROKEN OUT BUT SHE'S GOING TO TAKE ON SOME ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES WITH THE ASSESSOR PROCUREMENT REGISTER OF DEEDS.

SO THAT'LL BE NEW BUT WE'RE ALL GOING TO LINE THAT UNDER THE CFO.

THEN BEYOND THAT WE'LL HAVE THE ACTORS WHO REPORT THE THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND WE'LL HAVE TO THE MOST PART WHAT YOU SEE TODAY WITH SOME MINOR CHANGES WHAT YOU WILL SEE ARE FOUR ACRES AS TO WHAT WE HAD HAD IN THE PAST WHICH I BELIEVE WAS SIX.

SO 1 TO 1 POSITION WAS BY ATTRITION ANOTHER POSITION OF WE'VE ELIMINATED THAT POSITION AND OBVIOUSLY ANYBODY IMPACTED BY THIS HAS BEEN NOTIFIED AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM ON ON THE WAY AHEAD AND TO THE EXTENT WE NEED TO COME TO COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD ON THOSE IF I WANT TO CALL IT SEVERANCE WE WILL DO SO IN THE NEAR FUTURE SO WE HAVE MR. ATKINSON WILL HAVE BUILDING SERVICES CAPITAL PROJECTS WHICH IS NEW FOR HIM BUT I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE HAS ALL THE BUILDING SERVICES FOLKS AND THE PLANNER SO THAT THAT MADE SENSE FOR US AND ALIGNMENT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS LAND PRESERVATION AND YOU'LL SAY WHAT'S LAND PRESERVATION. WELL OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WE TAKE PASS AND CALL IT LAND PRESERVATION I THINK IT MORE CLOSELY ALIGNS WITH WHAT THEY DO WE WILL STILL HAVE PASSIVE PARKS BUT WE WERE GOING TO CALL THIS LAND PRESERVATION SUPPOSE THE PASSIVE PARKS SO THAT'S A DISTINCTION FOR YOU ALL FOR PCA THE NEXT MR. ROBINSON WILL BE VERY SIMILAR WHAT HE'S ALREADY HE ALREADY HAS TODAY WHICH IS ANIMAL SERVICES DETENTION CENTER EMS AND MOSQUITO CONTROL WE'RE GOING TO TAKE FLEET SERVICES OUT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND MAKE THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT A DEPARTMENT JUST BECAUSE OF ITS IMPACT ACROSS THE ENTIRE WITH THE SHERIFF AND ALL THE OTHER VEHICLES AND SO THAT WILL FALL THAT HCA POSITION AND THEN NEXT ONE AND BY THE WAY WE'RE NOT CALM ACRES FOR ANY SPECIFIC THING WE'RE JUST GOING TO CALL THEM ACRES.

SO IF WE NEED TO MOVE THINGS IN THE FUTURE WE CERTAINLY COULD AND WE'VE GOT JARED WILL HAVE AIRPORTS, ENGINEERING FACILITIES AND PUBLIC WORKS REALLY NOT A MAJOR CHANGE THERE AND THEN WE HAVE ONE AND IT'S GOING TO BE MORE COMMUNITY SERVICES FOCUSED AND SHE'S PICKED UP ADDRESS PICKED UP A LOT BUT I THINK ORDERS WELL SUITED FOR THIS SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB WITH WITH EVERYTHING ELSE OF ALL THE BUT I POINT OUT SHE WOULD MAINTAIN ALCOHOL AND DRUGS DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS HUMAN SERVICES PARKS AND RECS WILL BE NEW BUT WE THAT FITS UNDER THAT HAT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES THE LIBRARY VETERANS AFFAIRS AND VOTER REGISTRATION ELECTIONS. AND LASTLY WE HAVE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND RECORDS MANAGEMENT WHICH WILL BE AT THIS POINT THEY'LL JUST BE DIRECT REPORTS TO THE ADMINISTRATOR. THEY DIDN'T REALLY FIT CLEANLY UNDER ANYTHING ELSE BUT GIVEN NATURE OF I.T AND ITS IMPACT TO ALL NOT ONLY ADMINISTRATION BUT COUNCIL AND ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS WE THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE AS WELL AS RECORDS MANAGEMENT JUST FOR THE NATURE OF WHAT WHAT THEY THERE SO THAT'S OUR ORGANIZATION CHART ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT YOU WILL SEE A REDUCTION IN THE BUDGET FOR FOR THOSE TWO POSITIONS SO THAT'S THE GOOD PART OF THIS IS WE'RE TO HAZIER POSITIONS SO IT WILL I THINK MAKE THE ADMINISTRATION MORE STREAMLINED AND EFFICIENT AND ANY QUESTIONS ON IT AND KNOW BY SO SO MANY ACCEPT WHATEVER YOU HAVE BUT PARKS AND RECREATION WHAT'S THE LOGIC BEHIND PLACING IT THERE? VERY WELL WE THINK IT FITS

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SO MY EXPECTATION IS YOU KNOW AS FAR AS MY ACRES I'M OKAY I CONSIDER THEM I PREFER TO BE ON CARPET ON ANYTHING THAT GOES TO AN ACRE BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IF YOU ALL WORK THROUGH THE ACRES I'M OKAY WITH THAT I WOULD PREFER NOT TO GO BELOW THAT LEVEL WITH ANY ANY COMMUNICATION SO AND IF IT'S A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION OBVIOUSLY THERE IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO HAVE DONE AND I MAKE THAT DISTINCTION RIGHT IF YOU JUST NEED INFORMATION THAT'S ONE THING IF YOU NEED SOMETHING TO REQUEST DIRECTING THAT NEEDS TO COME THROUGH ME I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THAT PARTICULAR POINT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR IN WHAT I'M TELLING YOU ALL OH CAN YOU GO OVER AGAIN WHAT BUILDING SERVICES IS BUILDING SERVICES WE GET WE GOT CHUCK HERE. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF SCHOOL TO CHUCK SPEAKER.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

SO THAT IS BUILDING BUSINESS LICENSE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT CODE .

THOSE WERE COMBINED UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL WHO BRANTLEY WE USED TO HAVE A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND ONLY TWO EMPLOYEES THREE EMPLOYEES AND WE HAVE AND STREAMLINED THAT SO THOSE ARE THE THREE FUNCTIONS UNDER BUILDING SERVICES. OKAY. AND CAPITAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT IS SEPARATE FROM PUBLIC WORKS FACILITIES. THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. YEAH FACILITIES BUT DIDN'T STATE THAT ACTUALLY FACILITIES IS ONE THING I DID NOT STATE EARLIER IT DOES GO BACK UNDER SHARED PREVIOUSLY THAT HAD BEEN MOVED OUT UNDER HANK SO FACILITIES DIFFERENT FROM CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO MORE DISCUSSION ON CAPITAL PROJECTS AND FACILITIES AND KIND OF OUR THINKING ON THIS BUT WE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THAT HOW THAT WAS ORGANIZED MANY OTHER QUESTIONS JUST ONE THANK YOU THE CHAIRMAN WITH SITE VISIT FOR EXAMPLE AT BAY PINES.

YES. DIRECTLY TO YOU TO PERFECT PERFECT.

YEAH YEAH JUST TO ME AND WHAT WORK YOU SAID GOOD. YEAH.

THANK YOU. GOOD SIR. MR. PRESIDENT YES? YOU WILL HAVE THIS CHART PRINTED FOR EACH AND EVERY ABSOLUTELY WITH A DATE ON IT.

YES WE KNOW THIS THE ONE WE ARE. YES AND THIS HAS NOT GONE OUT TO START BUT IT WILL POST-MEETING AND YOU ALL HAVE A DATE ON THIS SO WE WILL TAKE THAT ACTION TO GET A DATE ON IT AS OF TODAY AND WE WILL ALSO UPDATE WITH THE CLERICAL THE BOARD, SUPPORT ALL THE WEBSITE BOARD SUPPORT AND SO FORTH BUT WHEN YOU ALL HEAR FROM ME BEFORE WE WENT OUT WITH ANY COMMUNICATION IS OFFICIALLY GOING GREAT WELL JUST WASN'T LAND PRESERVATION YES AND MEAN I LIKE THE TITLE BUT WE DO HAVE PARKS IN LAND PRESERVATION WE DO YES YEAH AND DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE PUBLIC CONFUSE TOO MUCH BECAUSE WHEN THEY THINK OF PARKS YOU KNOW THE FIRST LINE WOULD BE RECREATION BELLS AND ETC. ETC. AND NOT THEY HAVE PRESERVATION. YOU GOT TO APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I FIRST WAS GOING THROUGH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS I SAW PASSIVE PARKS AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION CONFUSED ME TOO BECAUSE YOU THINK WE'RE CONFUSED. YES, EVERYBODY IS I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS ARE CONFUSED.

I PARKS AND RECREATION OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE YOU KNOW FACILITIES WHERE WE HAVE ACTIVE WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE ACTIVE RECREATION THE PARKS PASSIVE PARKS ARE IN SOME CASES WE HAVE LAND PRESERVATION GOING FORWARD THERE'S MORE LAND WITH YOU KNOW GREEN SPACE AND SO FORTH.

SO I ALWAYS SEE PORTFOLIO GROWING SOME OF THESE PARKS ALLOW FOR PUBLIC ACCESS OR SOME OF THESE I SHOULD SAY PRESERVE LANDS SOME DO NOT SO I THINK WE YOU KNOW AND I GET YOUR POINT WITH OUR STAFF WE JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW THERE IS NOT ONLY TO PRESERVE THE LAND BUT TO MAKE SURE IT IS THOSE LANDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE PUBLIC NOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING THAT CHUCK SAID WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, I HAD ACTUALLY CHALLENGE THEM COMBINE PARKS AND REC AND PASSIVE PARKS.

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SO THE RULES THAT GOVERN THE THE PROPERTIES THAT WE UNDER RURAL AND CRITICAL IN OUR GREEN SPACE LIMIT THAT TO PASSIVE WE'VE CALLED THEM PARKS BUT REALLY THEY ARE JUST POINTS FOR SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN USE AND WALK ON IN A PASSIVE SENSE LANDS THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS YOU KNOW WE RENT OUT THE PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES FOR FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES FOR FOR ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS WHERE PASSIVE PARKS EVEN THOUGH WE CALL THEM PARKS THERE'S NO ACTIVE RECREATION ALLOWED ON THOSE LANDS. SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE TWO WE CALL THEM PARKS THEY'RE REALLY JUST ACCESS POINTS FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY THE PROPERTY IN A PASSIVE SENSE. IS THERE ANOTHER NAME OR SYNONYM FOR PARKS THAT WOULD BE MORE FOR THE PASSIVE. I MEAN I'M JUST ASKING YEAH I MEAN I DON'T I MEAN WE CALL THEM PASSIVE PARKS AGAIN WE WE'RE INTERNALLY STARTING TO CALL THEM BY THEIR NAME WHITEHALL YOU KNOW SOME OF THE WHINGEING POINTS SOME OF THE OTHER ONES AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY THE IDEA OF IT BEING A PARK EVEN THOUGH IT IS YOU KNOW IT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT IS IT'S JUST AN OPEN SPACE BUT YEAH THE NOMENCLATURE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE TRYING AWAY FROM THE SENSE THAT IT IS AN ACTIVE RECREATION FACILITY AND MORE JUST FOR THE ACCESS SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN ENJOY THE THE LAND A PASSIVE NATURE. YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU SO THAT COULD BE A FUTURE DEFINITION.

ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CONTINUE TO TO LIST THOSE PARTICULAR PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT WE OWN THAT THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TO.

AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT BECAUSE SOME OF THE PIECE OF LAND WE OWN WE DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS AND IT MAY NEVER BE IN SOME CASES. YES.

YEAH, RIGHT. SO WE'LL TAKE THAT AS A AS AN ACTION TO LOOK AT.

THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO NOW TURN IT OVER TO HIM TO PROCEED THROUGH.

HE'S GOING TO KEEP US ON A TIMELINE. WE'VE GOT 3 HOURS.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE CAN'T SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING IF WE DON'T GET THROUGH EVERYTHING.

THIS IS A LOT BUT WE'LL SEE HOW THINGS PROCEED TODAY. OKAY SO ON WHAT YOU ARE.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. THE JUST SO YOU KNOW I'M KIND OF KIND OF BE THE AMC CRUISE DIRECTOR WHAT AM I'M GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE TO AT TIMES THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION WE'RE GOING TO COVER THERE'S A LOT OF CORE THIS THIS LIST OF THINGS WE'RE DISCUSSING ARE VERY BIG TICKET CORE ITEMS THAT STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION NEEDS GUIDANCE ON MAKING DECISIONS ON WHAT COMES BACK TO YOU IN FUTURE WORKSHOPS FUTURE ORDINANCE PRESENTATIONS WHETHER THAT'S THE BUDGET OR OTHER DEFINITIONS THAT WE DO.

SO THERE MAY BE A TIME IF WE START GOING DOWN A RABBIT HOLE THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE BAD GUY AND SAY HEY LET'S PUT A PIN IN THAT AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT THAT'LL BE ON OUR LIST AT THE END FOR A WORKSHOP OR FOR A FOLLOW UP MEETING.

SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF SET THAT STAGE THAT I MAY HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE WILL BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND THAT'S GOOD.

THERE'S JUST WE DON'T HAVE TIME AND IT'S NOT REALLY THE TIME TO GO DOWN THOSE BUT WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU WANT US TO BRING BACK OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND SO I WILL LET YOU TAKE THE CLICKER SO THAT ENVELOPE WE WORKED WITH ALL THE ACRES AND MIKE AND MIKE WORKED WITH COUNCIL LEADERSHIP TO KIND OF ESTABLISH WHAT WE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. AND SO AS HE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE PEOPLE. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE IT'S GOING TO START.

KATHERINE MEAD I THINK WOULD YOU WANT US TO WAIT UNTIL THEY FINISH THEIR PRESENTATION AND THEN ASK QUESTIONS OR WANT ONE SET OF QUESTIONS AS WE THINK ARE YOU COMFORTABLE I THINK WE'RE IT'S BROKEN UP IN AREAS SO MAY BE ABLE TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS ON EACH PARTICULAR SUBJECT AS WE GO ALONG AND AT THE END OF EACH SESSION AREA I'M GOING TO KIND OF COME UP WITH A SUMMARY OF OKAY WE REALLY NEED GUIDANCE ON THIS. WE REALLY NEED GUIDANCE ON THAT AND THAT WAY WE CAN ORGANIZE WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THE END. CAN YOU ACTUALLY SAY GREAT SO YOU THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING.

I WAS JUST SAYING THESE PICTURES OF STAFF THOSE ARE GOOD SELECTIONS.

LET'S JUMP RIGHT IN. SO I WANTED TODAY TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE CURRENT BENEFITS WE OFFER TO OUR WORKFORCE THIS IS A BIG TICKET ITEM ON THE BUDGET YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO REFRESH YOU ON WHAT WE ARE OFFERING TO OUR WORKFORCE. FULL TIME EMPLOYEES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FOLLOWING

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WE OFFER BASIC LIFE AND ACCIDENTAL DEATH AND DISMEMBERMENT LIFE INSURANCE.

WE ALSO PROVIDE VOLUNTARY TERM LIFE INSURANCE. WE PROVIDE AN EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND I WILL NOTE THAT THAT IS FOR ALL EMPLOYEES NOT JUST FULL TIME.

AND THEN WE HAVE SUPPLEMENTAL INVOLUNTARY PLANS TO INCLUDE ACCIDENTAL INSURANCE, CANCER INSURANCE, CRITICAL ILLNESS AND WHOLE LIFE INSURANCE THE CURRENT ENROLLMENT SAID I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT IS JUST GOING TO BE ON OUR MEDICAL THAT IS THE THE LARGEST TICKET ITEM IN OUR BUDGET CURRENTLY WE HAVE 1272 ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES NOW NOT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES TAKE OUR BENEFITS AND SOME MORE SO WHEN WE HAVE YOUNGER GENERATION THEY MIGHT STILL BE ON THEIR PARENT'S INSURANCE BECAUSE THEY CAN UP TO THE AGE OF 26 SO ANYWHERE THEY CAN GET OUT OF NOT PAYING THEY'RE GOING TO STAY THERE SO YEAR THAT YEAR TO DATE AVERAGE OF ENROLLED EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR WAS 1067. THEY ALSO ARE ABLE TO COVER THEIR DEPENDENTS SO FOR SPOUSES WE'VE HAD 415 SPOUSES ON OUR PLAN AND 682 CHILDREN AGAIN UP TO THE AGE OF 26. SO WE HAD A TOTAL ENROLLMENT OF 2164 EMPLOYEES AND FAMILY MEMBERS ON OUR MEDICAL AND PRESCRIPTION INSURANCE. THE AVERAGE COST WHERE WE'RE TRENDING RIGHT NOW PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH IS $1,302 EXCUSE ME $12.32.

SO WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE HOT WHAT THE FORECASTED BUDGET WAS WE HAD SOME EIGHT CLAIMANTS, THREE OF THEM RIGHT OUT THE GATE WHEN WE OPENED OUR PLAN YEAR UP LAST YEAR.

SO IT SKEWED OUR NUMBERS BUT WE LOOKING FORWARD TO A MUCH HEALTHIER SECOND PART OF THE YEAR AND ANTICIPATE THAT NUMBER TO COME DOWN. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A REPORT CARD SO YOU MAY HAVE SOME OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN ON COUNSEL FOR A WHILE MAY RECALL THAT WE TRANSITIONED FROM A FULLY INSURED TO A SELF-INSURED PLAN DURING THE 20 1627 PLAN YEAR AND I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE KUDOS YOU AS COUNSEL FOR APPROVING THAT THAT TRANSITION WE HAVE HAD SOME REMARKABLE YEARS SINCE THEN MEDICAL RENEWAL THAT WE RECEIVED BACK IN 2016 AS A FULLY INSURED PLAN WAS 16.2 MILLION. SO INSURED IS LIKE YOU'RE PAYING FOR YOUR CAR INSURANCE, YOUR HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE IS A FIXED PREMIUM WHETHER YOU HAVE TO FILE A CLAIM OR NOT AND THAT'S WHAT YOU PAY YOU DON'T GET YOUR MONEY BACK.

SELF-INSURED IS WHEN WE ARE PAYING FOR THE ACTUAL CLAIMS THAT WE INCUR.

SO GOING BACK SOME 16.2 MILLION IS WHAT WAS FORECASTED A RENEWAL RATE FOR FULLY INSURED IN 2016 THE 2425 PLAN YEAR AS A SELF-FUNDED IT'S FORECASTED POINT FIVE SO THAT'S THE COURSE OF NINE SOLID YEARS THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN YET GOTTEN TO THAT THRESHOLD OF WHERE WE LEFT AS A FULLY INSURED AND I THINK THAT'S VERY REMARKABLE EVEN OUR INSURANCE YEAR AFTER YEAR ARE JUST KIND OF JAW DROP THAT WE JUST HAVE NOT YET CAUGHT THAT THRESHOLD I THINK WE'LL CATCH IT THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE MIGHT GO A LITTLE OVERBUDGET BUT AT ANY RATE THAT'S VERY REMARKABLE AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING H.R WHEN THEY CAME FORTH WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATION TO GO TO SELF-INSURED BECAUSE IT CERTAINLY HAS SAVED THE COUNTY AND THE TAXPAYERS A LOT OF MONEY WITH OUR INSURANCE. TOTAL SAVINGS OVER THE LAST NINE YEARS HAS BEEN ROUGHLY $19.5 MILLION. THAT'S A LOT MONEY.

HOW ARE WE ABLE TO DO THAT? WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY IN DESIGN PLAN.

A COUPLE OF INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE DONE IN OUR MOST RECENTLY DID INDEPENDENT AUDIT AND DISCOVERED 27 INELIGIBLE DEPENDENTS WERE BEING COVERED UNDER OUR INSURANCE PLAN SO WE WERE ABLE TO THOSE DEPENDENTS AND THAT ESTIMATED ABOUT HUNDRED AND $34,572 IN SAVINGS AND IN THIS YEAR WE HAD A SPOUSAL SURCHARGE BECAUSE IF YOU IF YOU REMEMBER GOING BACK HERE WE'RE COVERING 415 SPOUSES. THAT'S A HIGH NUMBER.

THAT'S BECAUSE SPOUSES WANT TO BE ON COUNTY'S INSURANCE BECAUSE ODDS ARE IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT THEIR EMPLOYER IS PROVIDING THEM. SO WE HAVE KIND OF CAUGHT WITH THE TIMES AND IMPLEMENTED A SPOUSAL SURCHARGE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE AN ELIGIBLE SPOUSE THAT HAVE OFFERINGS COVERAGE ELSEWHERE BUT DECIDE TO COME TO OUR PLAN INSTEAD WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED I DIDN'T KNOW NOTATE HERE ABOUT SURCHARGE SEVERAL YEARS BACK FOR ANY TOBACCO THEY ALSO HAVE A SURCHARGE AND BOTH OF THOSE SURCHARGES ARE $50 A MONTH PER

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I KNOW INSURANCE SOMETIMES ISN'T ON THE SPOUSAL SURCHARGE YOU THERE WERE A NUMBER OF SPOUSES THAT HAD INSURANCE FROM THEIR EMPLOYER BUT THEY CHOSE OURS.

CORRECT. AND HOW DID WE GET THE SAVINGS? WE ARE IMPLEMENTING A SURCHARGE FOR THE EMPLOYEE TO PAY AN EXTRA $50 ON TOP OF THEIR PREMIUMS IN ORDER TO COVER THEIR SPOUSE UNDER OUR COST THEY HAVE INSURANCE THAT'S .

RIGHT. AND THAT'S A VERY COMMON TREND THAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THE INSURANCE WORLD. WE'RE JUST CATCHING UP AND THE QUESTIONS OKAY.

OKAY. WELL I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO A BENCHMARK STUDY.

ONE ADVANTAGE IS OUR CURRENT INSURANCE BROKER FOR THE COUNTY AND THEY HAD CONDUCTED A BENCHMARK STUDY AT OUR REQUEST AND HANK IS PASSING THOSE SLABS OUT FOR YOU AND.

WE WILL GO THROUGH THEM HERE IN THE ELECTRONIC DECK. YES, PLEASE GO QUICK DOWN.

OKAY. AND THEN HAS A COPY IN THERE. ALL RIGHT.

SO THIS DIRECTLY FROM USA A BIT OF THE DATA COLLECTION OVERVIEW .

THEY COLLECTED DATA FROM FOUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES. THEY ALSO INCLUDED PBA BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE STATE IS DOING BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME COUNTY GOVERNMENTS IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA THAT UTILIZE THE PBA INSURANCE WHEREAS WE ARE ONLY UTILIZING THE PBA RETIREMENT. THE CUSTOM ENTITIES THAT THEY REVIEWED WERE BERKELEY COUNTY CITY OF CHARLESTON, CITY OF NORTH CHARLESTON AND GREENVILLE COUNTY. THEY ALSO INCLUDED GOVERNMENTS OF THOUSAND PLUS EMPLOYEES AND MID-SOUTH FROM THEIR OWN PROPRIETARY PROPRIETARY BENCHMARK STUDIES THAT THEY CONDUCT EVERY YEAR FOR THIS SPECIFICALLY THEY INCLUDED THE LOWEST POSSIBLE RATES THAT AN EMPLOYEE CAN ELECT AND THEY DID NOT INCLUDE THE SURCHARGE THAT WE JUST MENTIONED SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE RATES IT'S NOT INCLUSIVE OF ANY SURCHARGES THAT THOSE EMPLOYERS MAY HAVE IMPLEMENTED SPECIFICALLY FOR COUNTY THEY INCLUDED THE EMPLOYEE CHILD AND FAMILY TIER THAT IS THREE CHILDREN OR ABOVE. SO WE HAVE A VERY FLEXIBLE PLAN FOR NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL. WE AS WE HAVE THE PREMIUM AND THE MEDICAL COVERAGE BUT EVEN WITHIN THOSE TWO PLANS WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIERS. YOU CAN COVER JUST THE EMPLOYEE ONLY YOU CAN DO EMPLOYEE SPOUSE. YOU'RE GOING TO DO YOUR EMPLOYEE AND YOUR CHILDREN AND WE BREAK THAT OUT FOR ONE OR TWO CHILDREN FOR.

THE OTHER TIER IS THREE OR MORE CHILDREN AND THE SAME IDEA FOR FAMILIES THAT WOULD BE A SPOUSE AND CHILDREN. SO FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS STUDY THEY FOCUSED ON THE TIER LEVEL THAT WE'RE COVERING THREE CHILDREN VERSUS TWO WHICH IS THE MORE EXPENSIVE PLAN FOR US . AND THEY ALSO FOUND THAT ALL LOCAL PARTICIPANTS OFFERED TO OPTIONS JUST AS WE DO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NORTH CHARLESTON. THEY ASKED THAT THE MAIN FOCUS WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS SHOULD BE OUR LOW OPTION BECAUSE THAT IS THE MOST HEAVILY UTILIZED PLAN THAT WE DO OFFER FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. ALL RIGHT.

SUMMARIZING THE ACTUARIAL VALUE AND I WILL REFER TO THAT AS A GOING FORWARD OR I WILL BE TERRIBLY TONGUE TWISTED WITH YOU ALL TODAY TO COMPARE THE ASPECTS OF THE THAT'S THEY THEY REVIEW THE AD FOR EACH AND WHAT THIS IS IS MEASURING THE RELATIVE GENEROSITY OF THE BENEFITS BY HEALTH INSURANCE PLANS SO IN OTHER TERMS THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN TO BE YOUR CO-PAYS YOUR, DEDUCTIBLES, YOUR CO-INSURANCE AND YOUR OUT-OF-POCKET MAXIMUMS TO DETERMINE WHAT'S THE OVERALL PERCENTAGE PAID BY YOUR EMPLOYER VERSUS WHAT ARE YOU PAYING THE PARTICIPANT OUT OF POCKET ACCORDING TO THE VALUES THAT THEY CALCULATED? THE VALUES RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 64% TO 89%.

THE COUNTY PLAN WHICH IS OUR HIGH, HIGH TIER OPTION CALCULATED 89% WHICH WAS THE HIGHEST AND OUR BASE PLAN AN A-B OF 87% WHICH RANKED THIRD AT ALL.

OUR RESPONDENTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF AN RV THE VALUE OF LESS AND FOR COUNTY MEANS THAT THEIR BENEFITS AREN'T AS RICH WHEN MEAN RICH I'M TALKING ABOUT MOST FAVORABLE FOR THE EMPLOYEE THE PARTICIPANT OUT OF ALL 11 PLANS EIGHT OF THEM WERE LESS THAN OUR RV AND ONLY ONE PLANNED GREATER THAN OUR BASE PLAN. OKAY SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH. SO OUR BAR GRAPH SHOWS FOR COUNTY OUR BASIC PLAN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BASE PLAN THE LOWER OPTION FIRST WE CAME IN 87%. THE ONLY OTHER BENCHMARKED PARTICIPANT THE STUDY THAT CAME

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ANY QUESTIONS ON HOW THIS CHART READS OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THE TWO SLIDES I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT BUT IT'S GOOD INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE AND I BELIEVE THE THE SLIDES THAT WERE PRINTED WERE THREE PERFECT.

YES. ONE SLIDE FOR SURE. OKAY.

SO THE OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY.

THANKS. YOU'RE WELCOME. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

WOULD YOU USE IT OR THEY USE THE TERMINOLOGY RICHARD, THAN ANY OTHER PLAN.

WHAT IS WHAT IS RICHER? RICHER IS THIS MORE THERE'S MORE VALUE FOR THE EMPLOYEE.

OKAY. THEY HAVE A WONDERFUL PLAN AS FAR AS HOW THE CO-INSURANCE IS LAID OUT, THE DEDUCTIBLES ARE LAID OUT, WHAT IS THEIR OUT-OF-POCKET COST ESSENTIALLY VERSUS MUCH THE EMPLOYER'S PAYING FOR THAT TOTALITY OF THE PLAN? OKAY. IN NORTH CHARLESTON IS RICHER THAN BEAUFORT ABOUT 1%.

YES. BECAUSE OF WELL, LET'S GO INTO THE NEXT TWO SLIDES AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT BREAKDOWN. I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE.

THESE COUNTIES OR MUNICIPALITIES THAT YOU'RE COMPARING HERE SO WHO US I USE I USED BERKELEY COUNTY AND THEN THEY USE THE TOWN OF CHARLESTON AND NORTH CHARLESTON AND GREENVILLE. SO TWO COUNTIES, TWO MUNICIPALITIES AND THEN THE STATE LEVEL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES TO COMPARE THAT IS THE DATA US I WAS ABLE TO GET A HOLD OF IN THE TIME FRAME THAT THEY HAD. OKAY.

IS IT RECOVERABLE SIZES. WELL THEY DID USE A COMPARABLE SIZE BUT AS FAR AS WELL MAYBE HORRY COUNTY YORK COUNTY IS NOT IN HERE. THAT'S THE RESOURCES THEY HAD AT THE TIME WITH THE TOWN WITH THE TURN AROUND TO DO THE SURVEY OKAY YOUR ON THAT THEY'RE ON THE STATE PLAN ARE THEY YEAH AND THAT'S A LOT OF AS I MENTIONED TO A LOT OF COUNTIES ARE ON THE STATE PLAN WHICH WOULD BE PIVA PEOPLE THAT GREENGART TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION A LITTLE BIT COULD BE A GOOD REASON WHY THEY MIGHT NOT BE STUDIED IS IF THEY'RE ON PAPER BUT THE REASON THAT'S LOWER WHILE PEOPLE ARE IS A GOOD PLAN.

A LOT OF TIMES THE LOWER PREMIUM AS WE ALL HAVE HAD DIFFERENT INSURANCES OVER TIME MIGHT SOUND GOOD UPFRONT BUT YOU YOU MIGHT HAVE MORE OUT OF POCKET ON THE BACK SIDE AND SO THESE PERCENTAGES BALANCE THOSE TWO THINGS OUT BECAUSE AS A YOUNG PERSON ONE DAY WHEN I WAS ONE WE WANTED THAT LOW PREMIUM HIGHER OUT OF POCKET BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE WERE BUT THAT'S WHERE THIS LOOKS AT THIS POINT REALLY BALANCES OUT FOR THAT WHOLE CROSS-SECTION OF BECAUSE WE HAVE EMPLOYEES OF ALL AGES AND IF SIZE BENEFITS NOT RETIREMENT CORRECT WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE FOR CURRENT THE CURRENT EMPLOYEES BUT WE WILL TO RETIREMENT AT SOME POINT AND TALK ABOUT THAT OKAY SO THAT'S THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT WE MAY NOT GET TO HAVE TO GET TO. YEAH, NO, I MISSED SOMETHING.

WHERE IS THE ELEPHANT? NO, WE DID BRING IT UP. I THINK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT INTERNALLY. I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S GOING TO WARRANT ITS OWN WORKSHOP TONIGHT. OH, OKAY. YEAH.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RETIRED HEALTH BENEFITS. I SAY OKAY YOU HAVE A GAP BENEFIT OR SOMETHING THAT GAP IN CHURCH? YES.

KATHERINE SAID NOT TO JUMP IN BUT YOU'VE HAD SHE'S HAD SOME INITIAL CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

BUT I THINK WE WANT TO BE VERY FOCUSED IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR ASK IS.

THAT IS CORRECT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE OFF IN OUR CURRENT WORKFORCE AND LAY THAT GROUNDWORK OF WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO OUR CURRENT.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A DESIRE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND TALK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM IMPLEMENT FOR RETIREES. BUT I THINK LAYING THAT GROUNDWORK UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE OFFERING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE ANYTHING WE DO OFFER IN THE FUTURE OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE BECAUSE PART OF WHAT KATHERINE AND I DISCUSSED OR WE TALKING ABOUT FOR VESTED RETIREES WE ABOUT FOLKS WHO JUST GET TO EIGHT YEARS UNDER THE NEW SYSTEM AND THEY GET A GAP COVERAGE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE KIND OF NEED TO FOCUS THIS DISCUSSION IF YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ANY NEW PLANS COMING OUT THE ONE THAT I AM AWARE OF I BELIEVE AS CHC IS LOOKING TO COMPETE WITH IVA, ARE THERE NEW PLANS COMING OUT UNDER PBR IS YOUR QUESTION OR FOR US AS COUNTY HEALTH SO I AM NOT AWARE ANY NEW PLANS COMING OUT FROM PPA BUT I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED TO KNOW IF THERE ARE SO I CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP WITH THAT BECAUSE I WAS VERY SHOCKED WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE WITH WITH WHAT PEOPLE CURRENTLY OFFERS.

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I'M SURE. YES. JUST ONE QUESTION ON.

THIS SIGN WHEN IT SAYS PIMA SAVINGS, WHAT IS THAT IN PARTICULAR IS A SPENDING ACCOUNT OR SHOULD THEY OFFER TWO DIFFERENT PLANS LIKE WE DO WE HAVE A BASIC AND PREMIUM SO JUST THE NAME OF THEIR PLAN THAT IS THE LOWER BASE PLAN IT'S LIKE THE LOW OPTION IS THE LOW OPTION GUARD INTERRUPTER NO THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

MR. GLOVER BACK, TO YOU. I'M SORRY. OKAY, BACK TO YOUR THE NEXT TWO SLIDES. HOW DID THEY GET THESE VALUES? THIS IS ALL THE INFORMATION LOOKING AT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR THEIR DEDUCTIBLES FOR INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR CO-INSURANCE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR COPAY . THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR PRESCRIPTION COST SHARING SO THAT THE NEXT TWO SLIDES AND I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF GREAT DETAIL HERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU ALL TO TEARS BUT IF YOU'RE CURIOUS AS TO HOW THEY GOT THE AVE THIS IS THE DATA THEY USED TO FIND IT. THEY DID BREAK IT OUT ON TWO SEPARATE TABLES.

I WILL POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO THE BENCHMARK TABLE NUMBER ONE, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT TWO OF THESE PLANS HAVE THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE WHICH IS WHAT QUALIFIES THEM TO HAVE AN HSA, A HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM YOUR FLEX SPENDING ACCOUNT WHICH IS WHAT OFFER. WE ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR AN HSA BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN AND IT WOULD NOT BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THRESHOLD BY THE IRS ON THE BENEFIT OUR BENCHMARKING TABLE NUMBER ONE UNDER TOLLESON HSA IS THIS YEAR THOUSAND $650 FOR A DEDUCTIBLE AND $3,300 FOR THE FAMILY DEDUCTIBLE AND THAT IS SUBJECT TO INCREASE EVERY YEAR AND UNLESS YOU HAVE THOSE THRESHOLDS IN YOUR DESIGN PLAN YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HSA. ANY QUESTIONS? YES. YES. CONFLICT SPENDING PLAN IS IT USE IT OR IT OR CAN YOU CARRY OVER YOU CAN CARRY OVER UP THREE MONTHS TO THREE MONTHS BUT AFTER THAT IT IS A LOSE IT AND WE ARE WE TRY TO COMMUNICATE THAT VERY HARD DURING OUR HIRING ORIENTATION ALSO SENDING OUT SOME REMINDERS WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE END OF THE YEAR. AMAZON NOW EVEN HAS A SPECIAL LINK TO GO ON TO SORT AND FILTER JUST FSA ELIGIBLE ITEMS . SO I TELL FOLKS ALL THE TIME IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE UNSURE HOW TO SPEND YOUR MONEY COME SIT WITH ME AND I CAN SPEND IT FOR YOU.

SO THERE'S TYPES OF ELIGIBLE ITEMS UNDER FSA. NOW ANOTHER QUESTION TOO.

YES I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO IT RIGHT? YEAH.

NO. OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT OKAY.

WELL LET'S LOOK AT THE B VALUES FOR THE HEART PLANS FROM OUR WE JUST LOOKED AT THE LOW OPTION THIS IS THE HIGH PLAN SO THIS IS WHERE BEAUFORT COUNTY DOES BEAT OUT OF THE OTHERS THAT WERE IN OUR BENCHMARK STUDY WE'RE 89%. YOU DO SEE THAT P THE STANDARD PLAN DID JUMP UP TO 83% SO THEIR HIGH PLAN OPTION IS GREATER WITH THE ACTUARIAL VALUE AND AGAIN THE NEXT CHART IS OUR BENCHMARK TABLE FIVE THAT IS THE DATA THEY USED TO GET THOSE IVS FOR YOU. SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT ARE THOSE OTHER PARTICIPANTS DEDUCTIBLES, COINSURANCE, PRESCRIPTION CO-PAYS THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE FOR YOU. DO YOU HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ON MEDICARE THAT THEN THEY USE THIS AS THEIR SECOND INSURANCE? WE DO. OKAY.

WELL DO YOU KNOW A PERCENTAGE OR. I DON'T BUT I CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT FOR YOU. YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? AND IT'S A LOT OF DATA BEING THROWN YOU AT ONE TIME. AND TO FOLLOW UP WHAT ALLEN SAID, IS IT NOT TRUE ONCE YOU HIT MEDICARE AGE AUTOMATICALLY MEDICARE IS YOUR PRIMARY AND YOUR SECONDARY IS WHATEVER CORRECT? OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK GOING BACK ON THIS THOSE PARAGRAPHS ARE THE BAR GRAPHS ARE REALLY WHERE YOUR FOCUS SHOULD BE THESE CHARTS THESE TABLES THIS IS JUST THE BACKUP DATA OF HOW THEY CALCULATED THOSE NUMBERS. I'M CURIOUS. ALL RIGHT.

SO PLANS AND CONTRIBUTIONS, THE PLANS THAT WERE HERE, THEY RANGE ANYWHERE FROM A PPO TO A HSA TO AN HRA. SO PREFERRED PROVIDER ORGANIZATION THAT'S WE HAVE IN

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SO THE NEXT SLIDE WE WILL LOOK AT IS WHAT ARE OUR EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THEIR HEALTH AND MEDICAL EXCUSE ME THEIR HEALTH AND PRESCRIPTION ON OUR PLAN, OUR LOW OPTION PLAN, THE BLUE GRAPH FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY THE ORANGE GRAPH IS FOR IF THOSE HAVE A FAMILY COVERAGE SO FOR EXAMPLE THESE ARE MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION RATES BY THE WAY AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT NOTE THAT OUR TIER OUR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE INCLUSIVE OF MEDICAL PRESCRIPTION AND DENTAL WHEREAS EVERYONE ELSE IS A SEPARATE COVERAGE AT A SEPARATE COST.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE FOLDING INTO THE MEDICAL COVERAGE FOR BE FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES IS METLIFE DENTAL LIFE BUT DENTAL IS ALSO AN ITEM THAT CAN BE PURCHASED WITHOUT MEDICAL. IT IS GOING TO COME WITH MEDICAL BUT IT ALSO CAN BE PURCHASED WITHOUT MEDICAL. YES FOR THE EMPLOYEE ONLY IT'S FREE.

WE DON'T ANYTHING BUT IF THEY WANT TO COVER JUST THEIR FAMILY ON DENTAL ONLY THEY CAN DO THAT AS WELL FOR $17 A PAY PERIOD. OKAY THANKS FOR THE EMPLOYEE ONLY THOUGH IT'S FREE.

IT IS FREE. OH THAT'S GREAT. YEAH.

YEAH I WANT TO BRING THIS I'M SORRY THAT THAT'S A GOOD BENEFIT THAT I DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE SO YEAH. SO YOU HAVE OUR DENTAL COVERAGE NOW.

YEAH, GREAT. YOU KNOW I'M RELATIVELY RARE YEAH YEAH YES I WOULD SAY SO AND I'M GOING TO MENTION THIS BEFORE I GET STARTED AND ALL THE DATA THAT YOU ALL REMEMBER ME COMING TO YOU ON THE CLASS AND COMP AND I USE THE PHRASE THAT WE WANT TO BE THE EMPLOYER OF CHOICE AND THAT ZINNI IS DREAM AND PROBABLY ADMINISTRATION AND COUNSEL TO AND EMPLOYER IS NOT JUST LOOKING AT OUR SALARIES THIS IS A HUGE PIECE OF A BENEFIT THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN TO OUR WORKFORCE. WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHERE EMPLOYEES CAN LOG INTO THEIR EMPLOYEE SERVICE AND SEE A TOTAL COMPENSATION REPORT. I THINK MS. TAB YOU WERE THE ONE THAT ASKED ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU FIRST CAME ON COUNCIL AND THAT WAY THEY CAN SEE A PIE CHART OF OKAY WELL YES THIS IS WHAT I'M BRINGING HOME BUT THIS IS HOW MUCH VALUE IS IN MY ACCRUED PTO AND THIS IS HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE COUNTY IS PAYING FOR ME AND MY FAMILY'S HEALTH INSURANCE.

AND SO IT'S VERY AND I USUALLY TELL OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AS YOU'RE INTERVIEWING AND RECRUITING WE HAVE A NICE LITTLE ONE PAGE FLIER THAT THEY CAN USE AS A RECRUITMENT TOOL BECAUSE INSURANCE IS IMPORTANT AND EVERYONE NEEDS THAT. AND SO WE'RE OFFERING A VERY, VERY GREAT PLAN TO OUR WORKFORCE. OKAY.

AGAIN, I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THESE THESE TABLES THIS IS JUST THE DATA THAT BACKED UP TO CREATE THE BAR GRAPH FOR BUT YOU WILL NOTICE ONE THING I WILL POINT OUT THAT GREENVILLE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT THEY SURVEY THAT'S STILL FULLY INSURED.

SO WE WEREN'T THE ONLY ONE THAT MADE THE JUMP FROM FULLY SELF-INSURED AND PROBABLY ARE REAPING THE BENEFITS OF THAT. OBVIOUSLY IF THERE WAS A TIME THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TO GO BACK TO PIMA THAT THAT IS FULLY INSURED. SO WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF GOING BACK TO THOSE PREMIUMS OF WHAT WE'RE PAYING AND GETTING AWAY FROM THE SELF-INSURED WHICH I DO HAVE A QUESTION SO I UNDERSTAND THE SELF-INSURED SAVINGS WHAT IS THE SCENARIO WHERE IS THERE A RISK THAT OUTWEIGHS THE SAVINGS LIKE IS THERE A PARTICULAR SCENARIO WHERE BEING SELF-INSURED IS RISKIER THAN BEING INSURED AND I SINCERELY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR IT. YEAH PROB NO I WOULDN'T SAY SO I THINK COST REALLY THE BIGGEST DRIVER FOR FOLKS THAT WANT TO GO TO SELF-INSURED IT'S A GREAT QUESTION I GUESS I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO BECAUSE I MEAN EVEN WITH THE FULLY INSURED WE STILL HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY OF CHANGE IN OUR PLAN DESIGN WITH HOW MUCH CONTRIBUTIONS THE EMPLOYEES MAKE AND VERSUS THE EMPLOYER. SO THERE'S STILL THAT FLEXIBILITY BUT IT'S OVERALL IT'S THE COST SAVINGS FOR THAT QUESTION WHAT KIND OF COMMENTS ARE YOU GETTING FROM AS FAR AS THEIR PREMIUM IS THE PLEASED WITH IT? OH YES. YES, SIR THEY ARE VERY THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LOT DEPENDENTS

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SO IF WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR 20 YEARS, THEY REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT OTHER ENTITIES ARE CHARGING. THE YOUNGER GENERATION AS I MENTIONED COULD STILL BE ON THEIR PARENT'S PLANS AND THEY DON'T THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. BUT THAT THAT SWEET SPOT OF THOSE THAT ARE JUST COMING TO US FROM ANOTHER EMPLOYER THEY SEE THIS AND THEY ARE JUST WOWED AND ORIENTATE AND OF I'VE GOT TO GO HOME AND TALK TO MY FAMILY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GOING THIS PLAN SO THAT IS REALLY A MARKETING TOOL FOR US, ISN'T IT? OH, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S WHY WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS I ENCOURAGE THEM ALL THE TIME WE CREATE EVERY YEAR A ONE PAGE FLIER CODE OF BENEFITS AT A GLANCE CALL IT THE BAG AND SAY PLEASE SHARE THIS WITH WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR INTERVIEWS AND YOU'VE GOT THIS TOP THREE CANDIDATES SHARE THIS WITH THEM BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT IS THE SWAYING AND WE MIGHT NOT ALWAYS BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE SALARY NEGOTIATION REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HEAR BUT WHEN THEY SEE WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THEIR EXTRA BANG FOR THEIR BUCK WITH WHAT'S NOT COMING OUT OF POCKET TO PAY FOR THEIR FAMILY OF A FAMILY OF FOUR THERE'S YOUR DIFFERENCE AND WHAT YOU WANTED IN THAT SALARY IF NOT MORE YOU HAVE IT HERE SEPARATE. HOW DOES THE DENTAL PLAN COMPARE TO DENTAL PLANS ARE PRETTY STANDARD THEY REALLY ARE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT YOU SEE AND THE OFFERINGS OF THE COVERAGE AND OURS IS PRETTY STANDARD WHAT ANYONE ELSE IS PROVIDING OKAY. ALTHOUGH AT SOME POINT I THINK THE PLANS ARE ALL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME BUT YOU REALLY HAVE TO WORK IT. YOU REALLY HAVE TO STAND IN THE UNIVERSE OF DENTISTS WHO'S IN YOUR PLAN AND WHO ISN'T AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH REGARD TO THE CHOICE MAKE IF THE PLAN IF THE DENTIST ISN'T THERE LIKE YOU THE OLD ROOT CANAL SYSTEM I MEAN IT COULD COST YOU NOT TOO MUCH OR IT COULD COST YOU 1400 DOLLARS.

YOU DEPENDS WHERE THE DENTIST IS LOCATED. SO THE BENEFITS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME WITH THE YOU MAKE WITHIN THAT PLAN AND THE THING THAT CONTROLS WHAT'S GOING TO COST YOU AND THIS IS BRAND NEW TO ME GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE YOU ARE AN EMPLOYEE ON YOUR OWN AND YOU GET FREE COVERAGE AND YOU GET TWO CLEANINGS A YEAR AND YOU HAVE NO PROBLEMS THAT'S GOING TO COST YOU ABOUT 200 $250 MAYBE MAYBE $300 IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY AND YOU'RE PAYING 17 THAT'S GOING TO COST YOU $442 AND EVERYBODY GETS CLEANING.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE SOME MONEY BUT YOU MAY WANT THE OVERALL DEAL YOU'RE DEALING WITH REGARD TO THE HEALTH OF THE TEETH. YOU MAY JUST WANT TO PAY FOR THOSE TWO CLEANINGS IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR YOURS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW SMART YOU ARE AND WHEN YOU GET ALL THE FACTS AND I GOT TO TELL YOU HOW EASY TO GET IN THERE IT JUST ENDLESSLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR HAND IN YOUR POCKET IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN YEAH SO I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD PROGRAM IS JUST A MATTER OF SMART YOU ARE TO USE IT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN-NETWORK PROVIDERS GOING BACK TO THAT PPO I MENTIONED IF BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THERE'S A NETWORK AND THERE'S AN OUT-OF-NETWORK SO IF YOU FIND A PROVIDER FOR DENTAL VISION HEALTH IT'S IN OUR NETWORK YOU'RE GETTING THOSE CONTRACTED AGREEMENT PRICES THEY CAN'T CHARGE BUT X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR CERTAIN SERVICES THAT'S THE THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT IF YOU GO OUTSIDE A NETWORK. HMM. IF YOU'RE AT RISK OF PAYING MORE MONEY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT THE WAY THAT'S GOING TO BE PAYING A LOT MORE.

OKAY, HANK IS HANK IS GIVING ME THE OUT HERE? THIS IS INTERESTING.

HANK MEAN IT IS THIS STUFF IS RIGHT. THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT BENEFITS AND INSURANCE AND WHAT DO DO WE DO FOR OTHERS AND WE WANTED TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK TO SHOW WITH REAL DATA THAT WE HAVE A GOOD PACKAGE. RIGHT. WE WANTED TO YOU KNOW BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ADDING SOMETHING OR SUBTRACTING SOMETHING WE ALWAYS ASK THE KEY QUESTION WHAT PROBLEM ARE RESOLVING? AND WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW YOU THAT THIS GOOD AND IT'S RECOGNIZED BY DATA AS RECOGNIZED BY EMPLOYEES AND BY OTHER PLACES THAT I'M SURE. YES. REAL QUICK I KNOW THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM SO TO SPEAK IS THE GAP INSURANCE OF SOME KIND FOR RETIRED HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFITS. SURE I KNOW WE TOOK WE BROUGHT THAT UP LAST YEAR.

HAVE I'M ASSUMING KNOWN TO BE A SEPARATE WORKSHOP BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT I TALKED TO ARE COMPLETELY FINE WITH DOING SOME TYPE OF PAY INTO IT.

OKAY IN INVESTING PERIOD I KNOW THERE WAS LITIGATION BEFORE ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF WHICH CREATES ISSUE BUT MOVING FORWARD AND LIKE I SAID I KNOW THERE'S STILL SOME TO OVERCOME BUT MOST EMPLOYEES THAT I'VE TALKED TO HAVE BEEN MORE THAN WILLING TO TO CONTRIBUTE RIGHT.

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OR WE'VE GOT EXPERTS IF WE UNDERSTAND ALL THE QUESTIONS WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU ALL WITH MORE INFORMATION. JUST THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COME HERE AND NOT HAVE A GOOD DEFINED PROBLEM THIS IS GREAT INFORMATION I JUST WANT TO THAT'S YEAH I JUST WANT TO LAY THAT OUT THERE FROM WHAT THAT I'M SURE I SPOKE WITH OUR BROKERS AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE SPOKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO PREPARING THEM TO COME TODAY AND KIND OF PUSH THE BRAKES A LITTLE BIT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PARAMETERS A LITTLE MORE BECAUSE THEY COULD SET UP HERE INSURANCE PEOPLE CAN SIT UP HERE AND TALK TO YOU FOR 6 HOURS. WELL YOU COULD DO THIS OR YOU COULD DO THAT OR YOU COULD DO THIS SO IT'S OUR JOB AS STAFF TO COME KIND OF MINIMIZE THE SMALLER WORK GROUP OF ARE WE LOOKING TO DO SO WE CAN BRING THE RELEVANT INFORMATION AND STAY ON TRACK OF THE TOPIC AND NOT GO DOWN RABBIT HOLES LEFT AND RIGHT.

SO I PROMISE YOU IT IS CERTAINLY AN ITEM WE ARE WORKING ON.

I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S COMING SOON IT WAS A LOT OF HURDLES OVERCOME SO BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP THIS QUESTION OF HAPPENS OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A ROBUST BENEFITS PACKAGE THAT IS HIGHLY DESIRABLE WHEN WE'RE RECRUITING INDIVIDUALS. YES.

AND WE SHOULD MARKET THAT TO OUR EMPLOYEES AS YOU SAID, THE DIFFERENCE COULD BE COMING HERE BECAUSE OF THE BENEFITS WE HAVE BUT THEY HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED. THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY.

WE'RE ALMOST INSURANCE. WE TALKED ABOUT THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR OUR LOW PLANS. THIS IS A BAR GRAPH TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE CONTRIBUTIONS AGAIN ON A MONTHLY BASIS FOR OUR HIGH PLAN AND ALSO REMEMBERING THAT COUNTY DOES PROVIDE DENTAL IN THIS WHEREAS THE OTHERS DO NOT AND AND AGAIN EVERY BAR GRAPH IS GOING TO BACK UP TABLE DATA WITH HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO COME WITH THOSE CALCULATIONS. THE LAST PIECE ON THIS IS OUR TOTAL EMPLOYEE CALLS COST RICHNESS THAT WAS THE QUESTION EARLIER MR. GLOVER WHAT IS RICHNESS? SO THE RICHNESS DETERMINES THE EMPLOYEES OUT OF OF POCKET COST. THIS COMBINED WITH PAYROLL CONTRIBUTIONS YOU GET THE TOTAL EXPECTED COST OF HEALTH CARE FOR YOUR AVERAGE EMPLOYEE. SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH IS SOMEONE PAYING IN CO-PAYS, DEDUCTIBLES ,CO-INSURANCE AND THEIR PREMIUMS? THAT'S THEIR TOTAL COST AS HANK MENTIONED, WHILE SOME OF YOUR PLANS MAY BE OFFERING A LOWER PAYROLL DEDUCTION COVERAGE, OTHERS MAY HAVE A BETTER RV THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH IN DEATH. SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEASUREMENT IS AND THE MEASUREMENT TOTAL COST COMBINES THOSE TWO FACTORS TOGETHER AND IN THE NEXT EXHIBIT I'LL SHOW YOU A LOWER TOTAL EMPLOYEE COST IS CONSIDERED MOST FAVORABLE MORE OF A RICHER PLAN FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR DEPENDENTS .

SO THIS IS OUR LOW OPTION, OUR BASE PLAN THE AVERAGE COST FOR A B FOR BASIC ONLY IS $130 A MONTH WHEREAS FOR THE FAMILY COVERAGE IS 408 AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER PEERS THAT WERE SURVEYED IN COMPARISON WELL WAS QUITE A DIFFERENCE AND SOME OF YOU YOU AND THEN OUR HIGH PLAN AVERAGE COST TOTAL COST FOR YOUR EMPLOYEE PER FOR PREMIUM IS 227 VERSUS 690 FOR THE FAMILY AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE OTHERS IN COMPARISON I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT POINT AT THE BOTTOM THERE THAT ALL OTHER DENTAL IS SEPARATE ELECTION AND PREMIUM CAN'T SAY THAT ENOUGH THAT THIS IS NOT BUT OTHERS NOT COUNTING THEIR DENTAL COSTS BUT WE ARE SUPPORTING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO OKAY AND FAIR IF YOU DON'T MIND TAKING A LOOK AT YOU.

GREAT. NOW WE'RE BACK WE'RE BACK TO JUST SOME OTHER PERSONNEL ITEMS HERE AND ARE ON THIS HANDOUT THAT I GOT THINGS BACK TO OUR REGULAR SLIDE DECK SO SOME INITIATIVES WE'RE TAKING IN OUR TALENT ACQUISITION AND RETENTION WE ARE STREAMLINING OUR HIRE PROCESSES, REDUCING TIME TO FILL AND I'VE SPOKEN TO AT LEAST THE FINANCE COMMITTEE HERE RECENTLY SOME OF THOSE INITIATIVES WE'RE TAKING RETENTION STRATEGIES.

WE ARE WANTING TO LAUNCH SOME CLIMATE SURVEYS COMING IN THE SPRING OF THIS YEAR.

WE ALSO WANT TO FOCUS ON OUR EMPLOYEE EXPERIENCE AND WELL-BEING AND SO WE WILL BE BRINGING FORTH SOME SOME REVISED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. ONE OF THOSE INCLUDES THE REFINING OUR REMOTE POLICY TO BE MORE HYBRID AND HAVE SOME PARAMETERS IN PLACE FOR THAT.

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DO YOU DO YOU KNOW PERCENTAGE WISE HOW MANY EMPLOYEES MIGHT BE DOING REMOTE WORK WHO ARE NOT THAT NOT THE ONES THAT WORK FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS BUT DIRECT OF FOUR SO FOR THE COUNTY NOT COUNTING ELECTED OFFICIALS WE DO NOT HAVE ANY EMPLOYEES THAT 100% REMOTE OUTSIDE OF ELECTED OFFICIAL STAFF THE HYBRID APPROACH I DON'T HAVE A PERCENTAGE FOR BUT THAT IS A NUMBER THAT I AM TRACKING DOWN MYSELF BY REACHING OUT TO DEPARTMENTS AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE REVISIONS OF THESE POLICY, IDENTIFY WHO'S DOING A HYBRID APPROACH AND WHAT DOES THAT HYBRID APPROACH LOOK LIKE? HOW OFTEN ARE YOU WORKING FROM HOME? HOW OFTEN ARE YOU IN THE OFFICE HOURS EXACTLY.

OKAY GREAT. LOOK FORWARD TO WHEN YOU CAN. YES, FINE.

YES WE CERTAINLY WANT ALL THAT SUPPORTIVE DATA BEFORE WE PULL THE TRIGGER OF CHANGING ANYTHING IN OUR PLAN SO KIND OF WORKING CONCURRENTLY WITH ONE ANOTHER.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BALANCE SHEET TO 2 TO 2 AREAS OF CONCERN? THE FIRST ONE IS WORKPLACE WELLNESS. HOW DOES THAT LOOK SO WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE WELLNESS PROGRAM IMPLEMENTED. WE HAVE TAKEN SOME SMALL BABY STEPS WITH WE HAVE A WELLNESS COORDINATOR IN THE H.R OFFICE. SHE ACTIVELY OUT PUSHING OUR WELLNESS COMMUNICATIONS MONTHLY NEWSLETTERS THAT RELATE TO WELLNESS TOPICS.

SHE'S ALSO INITIATED PHYSICAL FITNESS CHALLENGES ONCE A BUT IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FULLY IMPLEMENTED WELLNESS PROGRAM AND IT HAD IT'LL HAVE LIKE A BUCKET OF ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE TO COMPLETE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR YOUR INCENTIVE OF COURSE WE HAD TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT THOSE INCENTIVES LOOK LIKE WITH COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, PURCHASE GIFT CARDS OR THINGS LIKE THAT BUT WE DO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY . WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOME PREMIUM REDUCTIONS ON YOUR ON YOUR PAYCHECK FOR WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GOAL WE'D LIKE TO GO DOWN SEE A FORMAL WELLNESS PROGRAM IMPLEMENTED AND SOME OF THOSE BUCKET ITEMS AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S GOING TO GET YOUR YOUR CHOLESTEROL CHECK OR SEEING PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR PARTICIPATE IN MAYBE HOSTING A WELLNESS EVENT A HEALTH EVENT HERE AT THE COUNTY PARTICIPATING IN OUR PHYSICAL FITNESS. WE CAN'T MANDATE PEOPLE TO DO VACCINATIONS BUT MAYBE IF YOU DO A YOUR GET YOUR FLU SHOT ONCE A YEAR YOU'LL CHECK OFF THESE BOX AND THE MORE YOU CHECK THE HIGHER YOUR INCENTIVE. OKAY.

AND I DON'T WANT TO PROLONG THIS TOO MUCH SO A QUICK ANSWER YOUR SUCCESSION PLANNING IS THERE ANY INCENTIVE ENCOURAGEMENT TO TO WORK WITH CURRENT EMPLOYEES AS YOU AS THEY LOOK AT MAYBE GETTING INTO POSITION FOR MOVING UP BY THE SUCCESSION PLAN? I THINK I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES TO THAT THE INCENTIVE IS YOU KNOW, YOU YOU'RE ABLE TO MOVE UP WHICH OBVIOUSLY PUTS YOU IN A HIGHER PAY BRACKET AND GIVES YOU ENRICHES YOUR JOB MORE THEY IS ABSOLUTELY THERE FROM BOTH DEPARTMENTS IN THE H.R.

OFFICE TO THE POINT THAT WE HAVE A STRATEGIC CAREER PATH IN OUR NEW YOGA LEARNING SYSTEM WHERE MANAGERS CAN WORK WITH OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR AND H.R.

OFFICE TO STATE HEY THIS PERSON'S SHOWN INTEREST IN WANTING TO TAKE THAT NEXT STEP

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SO DO WE DO YOU KNOW IF WE OFFER A GYM FOR EMPLOYEES LIKE FOR THE COUNTY FACILITIES? SO FOR THE COUNTY FACILITIES IT IS IT IS AVAILABLE TO OUR EMPLOYEES NOW AS IT IS THEY JUST HAVE TO SHOW THEIR COUNTY I.D. BADGE. YES.

OH, I'M SORRY. YES. THAT INCLUDES ELECTED OFFICIALS TOO, DOESN'T IT? I BELIEVE IT DOES. I'LL CONFIRM WITH PARKS AND REC BUT I KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE IT WORKS ISLAND REC SO YOU COULD GET A MARK DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I DIDN'T MEAN TO IGNORE YEAH HE'S ON ZOOM RIGHT I GUESS KNOW I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO MENTIONED SOME POLICY POLICY REVISIONS COMING YOUR WAY SOME NEW POLICIES WE'LL BE BRINGING FORTH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS TO FORMALIZE THAT ACTUAL PAY POLICY. WE DO THESE CLASS AND COMP STUDIES, WE ROLL THEM OUT BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAINTAINING AND MANAGING THEM RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PROVIDED IN THE LAST STUDY FROM MANAGEMENT ADVISORY GROUP ALSO KNOWN AS MAG SO WE'RE GOING TO BE REFINING THOSE INTO A FOR COUNTY POLICY AND BRING TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AND WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO INSTITUTE AN UNCLE PAY IT'S THAT I FIND OUT MORE AND MORE AS I GO THROUGH THROUGH THE DAILY LIFE H.R. THAT SOME DEPARTMENTS ARE OFFERING UNCLE PAY AND SOME OR NOT SOME ARE OFFERING $2 AN HOUR.

SOME ARE OFTEN $3 AN HOUR. SO LIKE A UNIFORM POLICY FOR ON CALL BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DO HAVE DEPARTMENTS WHERE UNCLE IS WARRANTED NEEDED WE PROVIDE PRE-EMPLOYMENT CHECKS BUT WE ARE NOT ISSUING BIANNUAL BACKGROUND CHECKS. I USED TO DO THAT PRE-COVID AND IT STOPPED AT COVID. WE'D LIKE TO REINSTATE THAT BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO SO BY WAY OF A FORMAL SO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES KNOW THAT YOU ARE TO A BIENNIAL BACKGROUND CHECK AND AS OF A CONTINGENCY TO REMAIN YOUR EMPLOYMENT ANY QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW, I'M SURPRISED LARRY DOESN'T HAVE ANY ABOUT PAY SO WE HAVE A POLICY FOR SELF-REPORTING BUT WE FIND THAT SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET A SELF-REPORT AND THEN THINGS MIGHT COME UP THAT ARE VERY ALARMING TO US THAT WE HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING UNLESS BY ANOTHER BRANCH IS REQUIRED FOR WORK. YES THAT WILL INCLUDED MVR BI ANNUAL EVERY TWO YEARS.

THAT'S CORRECT YEAH I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WERE WASN'T IT. EVERY FIVE I DON'T REMEMBER YEAH JUST YEAR AGO A LOT OF TIMES IT WASN'T BUT I THINK EVERY TWO IS DOING TWO NOW WE ARE NOT DOING ANY BIENNIAL OTHER THAN PRE-EMPLOYMENT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY.

OKAY FIVE IS CERTAINLY NECESSARY. OKAY I OKAY OKAY.

ALL RIGHT SOME POLICIES THAT WE HAVE THAT WILL BRING FORTH FOR REVISION AS WE'VE MENTIONED THE REMOTE WORK POLICY, THE EMERGENCY ATTENDANCE AND PAY POLICY AND CLEANING OUR CONFLICT OF INTEREST POLICY AS WELL. WHAT DO WE HAVE I'M REAL FAMILIAR WITH THE HATCH ACT FOR FEDERAL BUT DO WE HAVE ANYTHING SIMILAR FOR DURING FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES CAMPAIGN TYPE STUFF DURING ELECTION YEARS WE DO IT IS ON IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT NOT TO BE USING ANY COUNTY EQUIPMENT COUNTY TIME COUNTY PROPERTY IT IS SOLELY OFF THE CLOCK. OKAY GOOD YEAH. MANAGER YEAH I'M PROBABLY JUMPING THE GUN HERE BUT ALSO THE COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE WANTING TO ADD THAT FOURTH SHIFT FOR A SHIFT TO THE ROTATION THERE. HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE DOING A FOUR DAY WORKWEEK FOR CERTAIN EMPLOYEES BUT STILL GETTING FIVE DAYS HERE IN THE OFFICE? I GUESS THAT MAKES SENSE. I GO THERE DEPARTMENT LIKE FOR LIKE AN ALTERNATE WORK SCHEDULE. YEAH THE FRIDAY OFF OR A FLEX FRIDAY I KNOW MY DAD WHEN HE'S WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HE WORKED AN EXTRA HOUR AND GOT FRIED EVERY OTHER FRIDAY ALL BY WAY OF BUILDUP I WE HAVE NOT HAD DISCUSSIONS FAR ENOUGH TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD TO YOU DO WE OFFER RIGHT NOW SCHEDULING WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS? YES WE DO. AND DO I KNOW IT'S BEING USED.

YES IT IS. BUT AS FAR AS A COUNTY POLICY THAT HEY EVERY FRIDAY AT 2:00 WE'RE CLOSING CLOSING SHOP WE HAVE NOT HAD DISCUSSIONS TO THAT LEVEL.

NO CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS OBVIOUSLY TO BE OPEN RIGHT FULL TIME PERIOD.

BUT I KNOW I'VE BEEN READING A LOT OF STUDIES THE FOUR DAY WORK WEEK AND YOU KNOW EVEN IF THE INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE CAN HAVE DAY WORK WEEK BUT ROTATE TO WHERE SOMEBODY IS OFF ON MONDAY AND SOMEBODY IS OFF ON FRIDAY NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT WE DO HAVE OKAY.

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BUT ALSO BUDGETING CHALLENGES IT IS HARDER TO PREDICT COSTS DUE TO VARIABLE INCREASES.

YOU READY FOR QUESTIONS ABOUT IT OR YOU WANT ANOTHER SLIDE TO KEEP GOING? LET'S LET'S DO THE STEP SCALE AND THEN WE'LL TACKLE SOME QUESTIONS SO STEPS SCALE PROS AND CONS PROS PREDICT PREDICTABILITY AND AS I MENTIONED, EMPLOYEES KNOW WHEN AND HOW MUCH THEIR INCREASE WOULD BE. FAIRNESS AND EQUITY ENSURES CONSISTENT PAY PROGRESSION REDUCING THE RISK OF FAVORITISM, RETENTION AND MOTIVATION. EMPLOYEES FEEL SECURE KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RECEIVE PERIODIC INCREASES AND IT IS EASIER FOR BUDGET SOME KINDS ON YOUR SALARY YOUR STEPS GO SALARY STRUCTURE IS THERE'S LESS FLEXIBILITY IT DOES NOT ACCOUNT YOUR MARKET CHANGES OR INDIVIDUAL NEGOTIATIONS LIMITED INCENTIVE FOR HIGH PERFORMERS IT'S NOT IF NOT COMBINED WITH PERFORMANCE BASED STEPS WHICH IF WE GO TO A STEP SCALE I ABSOLUTELY WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT IS COMBINED WITH PERFORMANCE BASED HIGH PERFORMERS MAY NOT REWARDED SUFFICIENTLY AND POTENTIAL PAY COMPRESSION LONG TERM EMPLOYEES MIGHT FEEL THEIR RAISES ARE TOO SLOW COMPARED TO NEWER HIRES THAT NEED TO STAND THAT WAY SO WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR STEP SKILLS TRADITIONALLY THE FIRST HALF OF THOSE STEPS RANGE ANYWHERE FROM TWO AND A HALF TO 3%.

THE SECOND HALF OF THOSE STEPS THEY START TAILORING IT BACK TO A LESSER PERCENTAGE.

WE ALL KNOW THE DISCUSSION 1% SALARY INCREASE ON A $100,000 IS NOT THE SAME AS A 1% ON A 10,000. BUT EMPLOYEES YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SEEING PERCENTAGE RANGE AND WHEN THEY SEE PEOPLE STARTING TO GET MORE PERCENTAGES AND THEY ARE THEY HAVE THEY'RE VOCAL ABOUT IT MISSING THE POINT BUT I WANT TO BELABOR IT I DON'T FEEL I KNOW WELL IF IT'S STRUCTURED YOU START TO SCALE SALARY STRUCTURES WORK BEAUTIFULLY IT'S JUST A MATTER OF YOU HAVE TO BE CONSIDERATE OF HIGH PERFORMERS BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO YOU KNOW WELL PEOPLE DON'T GET PROMOTED CAN LOOK AT A 20 YEAR CAREER AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS AT LEAST A YEAR AND THEN FOR THE NEXT THREE EVERY TWO YEARS AND YOU KNOW I MEAN FOR THE STEPS I'M TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YOU AND OF COURSE IF YOU GET PROMOTED WITHIN THAT IN MIDDLE AND PAY RANGE THEN YOU DON'T START AT STEP ONE.

YOU GO MAYBE STEP THREE. THERE'S A WAY TO STRUCTURE THIS SO THAT IT WORKS VERY EFFECTIVELY. I THINK HAVING COME FROM THE FEDERAL SYSTEM, THAT SYSTEM TO ME WAS VERY CLEAR AND THERE WAS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY WITH REGARD TO REWARDING PEOPLE WHO ARE HARD PERFORMERS AND SPECIAL ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS AND SUSTAINED SUPERIOR PERFORMANCE AWARDS WHICH IT CAN'T SEEM TO GET IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE OPERATING IN BECAUSE NO BONUSES WERE ALLOWED TO BE PAID AND I GUESS THOSE WOULD BE CONSIDERED BONUSES.

THEY WERE ONE TYPE PAYMENTS BUT YOU COULD ALSO YOU COULD SKIP THAT THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS THIS COULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN FOR A VERY FAVORABLE SALARY PROGRESSION FOR EMPLOYEES AND I DON'T RECALL ALICE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DID ANYBODY EVER COMPLAINING THAT THEY WERE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IN THIS STEP SKILL SO RESTRUCTURE REALLY WELL AND SO IF I MAY WE IT HERE IN THE COUNTY AS I MENTIONED FROM 2015 TO 2020 AND IT WAS BASED ON ON MERIT THE BEST RESEARCH I'VE DONE WITH THE FEDERAL IS IS LONGEVITY. PLUS YOU HAD TO MEET EXPECTATIONS IT WASN'T REALLY EXCEEDING BUT YOU JUST HAD TO MEET IT AND MEET EXPECTATIONS

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OH NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. IT WOULD BE THING JUST LET ME HEAR THIS THE STATUTORY PROHIBITION AGAINST YOU THAT ACTUALLY SKIPPED STEPS IN THE PROGRAM AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

SO 2015 TO 2020 WE DIDN'T DO LIKE THE FEDERAL OR THE TEN STEP.

WE DID 21 STEP SCALE TO ALLOW THEM FOR YOUR HIGH PERFORMERS GOT TO SKIP A STEP YOUR MEETING EXPECTATIONS WENT UP ONE STEP BELOW EXPECTATIONS YOU SAT IN YOUR STEP UNTIL NEXT YEAR RIGHT . BUT THE FEEDBACK I GOT SO THEY COULD GO UP IF YOU GO UP ANNUALLY WITH A GOOD AND GOOD OH WELL HMM. OKAY SO THE FEEDBACK IN THE CHALLENGES WAS THAT THERE WAS SOME THOUGHTS WITH THE BIAS GOING INTO THE EVALUATIONS AND YOU MAY GRADE SOMEBODY ONE WAY AND I'M TAKING THAT SAME EXACT EMPLOYEE BUT A AND I'M VIEWING IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND SO YOUR OF MANAGEMENT VERSUS MY STYLE OF MANAGEMENT COULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IN SOMEONE GETTING A ONE STEP INCREASE VERSUS A TWO STEP INCREASE BUT THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THAT MANAGERIAL INTEGRITY THAT WE ARE EXPECTING FROM LEADERS WHICH IS WHY THE H.R OFFICE AS OF TWO YEARS AGO HAS STARTED BROAD ANNUAL TRAININGS ON THE PROPER WAY TO CONDUCT A PERFORMANCE EVALUATION BECAUSE IT IS VERY KEY TO ENSURE THAT YOU ARE BEING FAIR AND EQUITABLE IF WE ARE EVER GOING TO GO BACK TO RELATING OUR PAY INCREASES TO MERIT THE THING I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT I THINK YOU CAN ELIMINATE A LOT OF THAT WITH GOOD JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND DESCRIPTION OF EXPECTED DUTIES MAKING SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHERE IT IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY THOSE DUTIES AND THEN YOU'RE SLIDING SCALE FROM YOU KNOW TO A MINIMAL TO SATISFACTORY TO EXCELLENT OUTSTANDING IS MUCH THE WAY YOU CAN DO IT.

I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE 20 YEAR I MEAN THE 20 STEP PROGRAM I THINK THAT'S I DON'T KNOW I LISTEN I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL EVER HAPPEN SO IF WE IF WE'RE STATUTORILY PROHIBITED I DON'T KNOW WHY WE EVEN TALK ABOUT IT. WE CAN'T DO IT, YOU KNOW. WELL, WE COULD WE COULD JUST CAN'T IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MOVING THOSE STEPS BASED ON PERFORMANCE AND NOT THE ONE TIME LUMP SUM PAYMENTS. SO I MEAN WE IT IN PLACE BEFORE COULD WE GO BACK THAT DIRECTION AND REFINE SOME THINGS ABSOLUTELY IT'S A IT'S A LEARNING LESSON FOR EVERYTHING DO AND SO IT CAN BE DONE YOU SO THE CORE QUESTION THAT WE'RE HERE AND SHOW WANT SOME DIRECTION ON IS WHEN WE BRING SOMETHING FORWARD DO YOU WHAT DOES THE GROUP WANT TO SEE BECAUSE WE REALLY CAN'T DO ALL THESE SCENARIOS SO THE QUESTION IS DO YOU WANT TO SEE HOW AN OPEN RANGE WORKS DO YOU WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE A STEP SYSTEM WORK? THAT'S REALLY THE CORE QUESTION . YOU JUST CAN'T RELY ON GIVING SOMEONE A ROLE EVERY THREE YEARS SO WE CAN'T STAY AT THE SAME SALARY.

THAT HAS TO BE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PROGRESS WITHIN THEIR CAREER TO OBTAIN A HIGHER SALARY DEPENDING UPON THE TIME AND THE MERIT.

OF COURSE 100% OF PEOPLE ARE YOU KNOW, IF YOU ONLY GIVE A COUPLE THREE YEARS PEOPLE CAN'T GET THE SAME SALARY EVERY THREE YEARS WHILE THE WHOLE WORLD IS AROUND YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT.

SO JUST ONE LAST QUESTION WHEN YOU COME TO US, GIVE US THE REASONS WHY IT WAS HERE AND THEN YOU JUST YOU GOT RID OF IT. I MEAN WHAT WERE THE REASONS WHY IT WENT? I MEAN I DON'T NEED TO KNOW IT NOW BUT OKAY.

NO I THINK JOE WAS NEXT. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING WHICH DIRECTION DO WE THINK IS THE BEST DIRECTION? IS IT STEP SCALE AND LEAVE IT TO YOU TO TOGETHER A PROGRAM AND BRING IT BACK TO US OR FLEX THAT WE HAVE RIGHT. PERSONALLY I THINK THE STEP SCALE CAN WORK I KNOW IN MY CAREER THAT'S WHAT WE USED WAS STEP SCALE WE HAD POSSIBILITIES OF YOU ABLE TO CHANGE FROM THIS SCALE TO THIS SCALE BECAUSE IN EDUCATION IT WAS ON THE DEGREES YOU HAD. SO YOU MOVE FROM A BACHELOR'S DEGREE TO A MASTER'S DEGREE SCALE AND YOU WERE REWARDED THAT WAY WE CAN SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT GO AND TAKE CLASSES TO GET CERTIFICATIONS THAT COULD BE AN INCENTIVE TO DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF STEPS AND THIS IS ACTUALLY KIND OF BUILDING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER? CAN IT BE A HYBRID APPROACH BETWEEN HAVING A SMALLER RANGE FOR A PARTICULAR JOB CATEGORIES BUT THEN A STEP AS YOU PROGRESS AND THEN ALSO LIKE A FIVE YEAR LOOK AT COMPRESSION TO ADJUST FOR THIS I THINK WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS A MIX OF TIME BASED SYSTEM AS WELL AS A MERIT BASED SYSTEM. YES.

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THINK WE'RE GOOD? AND ONE THING I REALLY DO THINK SOMEWHERE IN THERE WE NEED TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COMPRESSION AND FOR THE FOR THE LONGER TERM LOANS.

RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BUT THAT'S WELL AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN THIS LAST STUDY IS TO FIX THAT AND NOW WE HAVE IT'S JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN A STANDARD GOING FORWARD SO WE DON'T END UP BACK IN THAT SITUATION.

I KNOW THAT WAS A HUGE FOR A LOT OF FOLKS. YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH VARIOUS STYLE EVALUATIONS.

YOU KNOW THAT'S THE WAY YOU EVALUATE AN EMPLOYEE DO SO BUT AS LONG AS YOU ARE CONSISTENT, RIGHT? YEP. OKAY.

HUNDRED PERCENT. YES. AND THOSE ARE VERY GOOD KEY POINTS AND ANY TIME WE DO THESE TRAININGS ON VIDE ANYONE TO COME SIT DOWN AND SEE WHAT WE ARE GIVING TO OUR MANAGERS AND CONSISTENCY IS WE HIGHLIGHT IT .

YEAH. YES. OKAY THAT'S COOL.

KEEP GOING KEEP. GOING. ALL RIGHT.

JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF PERSONNEL SUMMARY. WE HAVE A CURRENT FTE COUNT.

I MENTIONED THIS IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR THOSE THAT WERE THERE 1000 540,000 CURRENT POSITIONS. SO HEAD COUNT 1621 VACANCY COUNT TO 37 ALTHOUGH WE DID HIRE 12 PEOPLE YESTERDAY ADMINISTRATION IS CURRENTLY REVIEWING NEW PERSONNEL REQUESTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THE DEPARTMENT SO YOU WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT LATER THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. WHAT ARE WE RECOMMENDING THIS YEAR? SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A COLLEAGUE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE OUR PAY SCALE RIGHT WHERE WE WANT IT YET SO WE DON'T WANT TO MISS THE TO REWARD OUR EMPLOYEES AND SO WE WILL BE OFFERING OR RECOMMENDING A 3% COLA. HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THAT? LIKE PREVIOUS YEARS WE HAVE REVIEWED THE CPI DATA. ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL RECEIVE THE COUNTY OR STATE ADJUSTMENT WHICHEVER IS THE GREATER OF TWO AND THAT IS BY WAY OF ORDINANCE. ADDITIONALLY WE ARE RECOMMENDING IF WE GO FORTH WITH A 3% COLA WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO INCREASE OUR BAND BY ONE AND A HALF PERCENT NOT THE FULL 3% TO ALLOW THOSE PEOPLE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BAND TO PROGRESS AND GET OFF THE START LINE. IF WE MATCH IT DOLLAR TO DOLLAR THEY'RE STILL SITTING ON SQUARE ONE AND NEW HIRES ARE MAKING THE SAME THING THEY ARE SO THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LIKE TO SEE IF WE GO WITH THE COLLAR SO WE DON'T CREATE COMPRESSION RIGHT IN YEAR ONE OUT OF THE GATE OKAY. MADAM CHAIRMAN, YOU LOST ME THERE WHERE A NEW HIRE CAN MAKE THE SAME MONEY AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN HERE TEN YEARS NOW, TEN YEARS.

BUT WHAT YOU'VE SOMEONE'S BEEN HERE ONE OR TWO YEARS. THEY JUST GOT HIRED LAST AT THE MINIMUM RATE AND IF WE JUMP OUR PAY BAND OUT BY THE 3% COLA AND THAT NEW HIRE THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR 1 TO 2 YEARS ALSO GETS THAT 3% COLA YOUR NEW HIRE IS GOING TO GET THE SAME AMOUNT BECAUSE THAT'S THE NEW MINIMUM ON THAT PAY RANGE. WELL THAT'S THE RAISE FOR THE JOB BUT IT'S GOING TO BUILD COMPRESSION AND COMPRESSION IS VERY HARD TO DO SO WHEN WE GET THROUGH THESE STUDIES IN FOUR YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO FIND MORE ARE.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THREE YEARS AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR SIX MONTHS AND WE'RE MAKING THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. IF SOMETHING YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A COLA GRANTED AND THE JOB GETS ELEVATED BECAUSE OF OF THE COLA PEOPLE WELL WELL IT WAS A A STEP WELL IF THEY'RE THERE SIX MONTHS YOU CAN'T REALLY ARGUE ABOUT THAT BUT SOMEONE SOMEWHERE FOR A YEAR OR TWO OR THREE THEY SHOULD BE ADVANCING IN THEIR COLA RAISE THEM TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL AND SOMEONE COMES IN IS A STEP ONE IF THEY'RE A STEP THREE BUT IF SOMEONE STILL A STEP ONE TOO BAD THEY'RE GOING TO THEY WON'T BE A STEP ONE AT THE END OF THEIR FIRST YEAR OF EMPLOYMENT. BUT FOR SIX MONTHS THEY MAY WELL BE.

SO ARE YOU SAYING IF SOMEONE COMES IN SIX MONTHS LATER AT THE SALARY THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT THERE'S THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT NOT NECESSARILY ON STATING AS OF JULY OF LAST YEAR FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT CAME BROUGHT UP TO MINIMUM AND THERE WERE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT WERE BROUGHT TO MINIMUM OF THE NEW PAY SCALE BECAUSE WE'VE WE WE JUST INCREASED OUR SKILLS LAST YEAR WHICH GAVE A BIG JOB. THEY'RE STILL SITTING THERE EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT HAVE THEY COULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INCREASE YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN A POSITION FOR A YEAR, YOU SHOULD YOU SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY UNDER A STEP SKILL.

YOU SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY A SATISFACTORY LEVEL OF PERFORMANCE ADVANCE TO THE NEXT STEP. BUT WHEN YOU'RE AT YOUR ANNIVERSARY OF YOUR HIGHER

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ALL RIGHT. NEXT THAT IS ALL OF THEM. YES, I BELIEVE I'M A LOT OF WORK HAPPENING. YOU COME TELL US WHAT THAT PROGRESSION COST YOU.

OH, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A BREAK HERE. SO MY NEXT QUESTION WANT TO TAKE A BREAK NOW. ARE YOU ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO THE NUMBERS TO TAKE A BREAK I BROUGHT UP IF I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE RATES WHATEVER YOU WANT HOW MUCH TIME THIS SCRIPT IS 7.5 MINUTES WRAP THIS PART UP AND THEN WE KNOW THIS IS JUST THE NUMBERS BEHIND SHE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE COST TO THE 3% GROWTH AND I DON'T THINK HE WAS UP FOR AN HOUR. OH NO, NO, I DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH.

I PROMISE. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU.

THAT WAS EXCELLENT. YES. WELL, THANK YOU REALLY.

THAT WAS THAT WAS THAT WAS THAT WAS GOOD. THANKS.

YES. SO AS KATHRYN MENTIONED, OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET PLANNING IS A 2% COST OF LIVING INCREASE AND THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD COST US THE CURRENT SALARY ROSTER AND WE USE THE DATE OF JANUARY 13TH BECAUSE PERSONNEL IS A MOVING SO PEOPLE COME ON BOARD PEOPLE OFF BOARD SO 64 MILLION IS THE NUMBER THAT WE HAD AS OF JANUARY 13TH AND OF COURSE THIS GETS UPDATED RIGHT UP UNTIL WE PRESENT THE BUDGET TO YOU SO THE NUMBER WILL CHANGE JUST LIKE SHE MENTIONED WE HIRED 12 PEOPLE YESTERDAY SO THAT NUMBER WILL CHANGE 3% AT THAT TIME WOULD HAVE BEEN $1.9 MILLION AND THIS INCLUDES ALL FUNDS GENERAL FUND SPECIAL THE SPLIT BETWEEN SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS AS WELL AS THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS YOU SEE THAT THE NEW WILL BE A LITTLE OVER 66 MILLION. WE ALSO APPLY THE 2% BECAUSE WE HAVE ABOUT $10 MILLION WORTH OF VACANCIES WE USE THE SAME DAY BECAUSE WE'VE NOT REVIEWED OUR NEW PERSONNEL REQUESTS AND DIFFERENT FTE AUDIT FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHICH POSITIONS WILL BE RECLASSIFIED THAT ARE CURRENTLY LISTED ON THE VACANCY ROSTER VERSUS FUNDED FOR NEW BENEFITS YEAR. NOTE THESE FIGURES DO NOT INCLUDE THE SHERIFF'S MAGISTRATE OR THE DSN CONSUMERS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN OUR COMP AND COST SO ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH I HAVE A SIMPLE ONE TO BREAK AS AN INDEPENDENT COMPUTATION. SORRY DID YOU DO THIS AS AN INDEPENDENT FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND DO FORGIVE? YES.

AND REACH 3% LEVEL THE 3% THAT WE CAME UP WITH IS BASED ON CURRENT ROSTER.

YES BECAUSE YOU KNOW EVERY OCTOBER THE GOVERNMENT THE BIG GOVERNMENT A SOCIAL SECURITY ADJUSTMENT AND A FEDERAL PENSION ADJUSTMENT. RIGHT.

THEY DO A BIG COMPUTATION AND I THINK THIS YEAR IT WAS WHAT SOCIAL 62.8 WAS THAT WOULD IT WAS ANYBODY REMEMBER YEAH I THINK SO TOO. I THINK IT'S LIKE 2.5 IT'S MILITARY PAYS RETIREMENT TO JANUARY 34 FOR THE WHOLE COUNTRY FOR WHOEVER IS ON THOSE PROGRAMS. RIGHT. SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY YOU'RE BOTHERING TO DO THIS WHEN YOU COULD JUST USE THAT NUMBER OR IS THIS A BETTER NUMBER OR IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TROUBLE WHEN SOMEONE ELSE IS ALREADY DOING IT AND THE REST OF THE WORLD GETS THE 2.8 AND WE'RE GIVING 3.0 YEAH.

I'M NOT I'M NOT PICKING THE 2/10 PROBLEM. I'M JUST WONDERING WHY ARE WE DIFFERENT FROM WELL HISTORICALLY WE'VE NORMALLY FOLLOWED WHAT THE STATE IS DOING. THEY'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF DETERMINING BETWEEN TWO FOUR. THEY'RE THEY THEY HAVE ONLY HAD THE HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW IN LINE WITH THE SOCIAL SECURITY THAT'S THE STATE SEPARATE FROM THE FEDERAL SIDE SO WE'RE COMPUTATION SEPARATELY WE STARTED OKAY OKAY YOU STARTED BILL AND IF THEY HAVEN'T DECIDED THAT QUESTION WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE BUDGETING FOR A JULY FISCAL YEAR WHEREAS FEDERAL SIDE IS OCTOBER 1ST FISCAL YEAR GO OKAY LET'S TRY TO SAVE YOU SOME WORK HERE BUT I APPRECIATE THAT THANK YOU. I HAVE ENOUGH TO DO WE'LL DO

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THANK YOU. SO LET'S TAKE A BREAK. 77745751.

THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M LATE SO MUCH.

LET'S LOOK AT THE REAL CLOCK. LET'S BE BACK AT 1135. OKAY.

IT'S THREE, TEN, 10 MINUTES. YEAH, COME BACK IN AN HOUR. YEAH TO CALL A MEETING BACK INTO ORDER. OH, OKAY. I DIDN'T DISMISS THIS BUT ALL RIGHT. THE MEETING IS BACK IN BACK ON THE WORKSHOP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. I PASSED OUT A A PAPER FOR EACH OF I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE VERY SHORT BUT THE BREVITY DON'T DON'T MISTAKE THE BREVITY FOR THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TOPIC THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT I'M GOING TO QUICKLY IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM, IDENTIFY THE SOLUTION THAT OUR EMS STAFF AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS. IT TOOK THEM ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO GET ME ON WITH THIS PROGRAM AND NOW 18 MONTHS LATER WE'RE FINALLY TO TO PRESENT THIS THIS TO YOU AND THEN FINALLY WELL, I'LL TALK QUICKLY SOME JUSTIFICATION FOR WHERE WE ARE AND THEN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. THERE'S OF INFORMATION IN THE FOUR OR FIVE PAGES I PRESENTED YOU BEFORE COUNTY EMS RESPONDERS ARE PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY EXHAUSTED.

YEAH THIS EXHAUSTION AND PHYSICAL AND MENTAL EXHAUSTION LEADS TO EMPLOYEE INJURIES INCREASE USE OF SICK TIME INCREASE USE OF OVERTIME INCREASE RISK TO OUR CAPITAL EQUIPMENT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY CAN LEAD TO INCREASED RISK OR MISTAKES IN PATIENT CARE.

THE COUNTY EMS RESPONDERS CURRENTLY WORK IN THREE ROTATING SHIFTS OF 24 HOURS ON DUTY 48 HOURS OFF DUTY RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE 1414 VACANCIES IN PARAMEDICS. WE HAVE SOME EMS EMT VACANCIES AS WELL, SOME PART TIME VACANCIES THAT TOTALS 26 VACANCIES IN IN THE ORGANIZATION AND THERE ARE 27 RESPONDERS ON EACH SHIFT IF THAT HELPS. SO RIGHT NOW THE TOTAL EMPLOYEE COUNT FOR THE DEPARTMENT IS 104 INCLUDING ALL OTHER ADMINISTRATION IN THAT AND WE SHOULD BE THAT 130 NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE TO COMBAT THIS BE FOR COUNTY EMT DESIRES A CHANGE TO THE SHIFT SCHEDULE ADDING A FOURTH SHIFT OF PERSONNEL SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS IS FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF ADDING THE FUNDING TO INCREASE THAT INCREASE THE SALARY THE COST OF THOSE 27 EMPLOYEES TO ADD THAT FOR SHIFT 27 AND THE ADDITION OF 27 EMPLOYEES FOR THE FOURTH SHIFT IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE OVERALL BUDGET FOR EMS OF $702,000 THAT'S 702,000. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY IN THE FINANCE. I WORKED WITH PINKY VERY CLOSELY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS TO REFINE NUMBER. THE $702,000 IS AS COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS BUDGET.

THERE'S A IN THE DOCUMENTATION YOU'LL READ THROUGH THERE THAT I HAVE A LITTLE PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS FOUR SHIFT BY THE NUMBERS AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE THE COST I'VE BROKEN DOWN WHAT THAT COST IS THE SALARIES WHAT THE BENEFITS COST AND THAT WAS THE HARD ONE TO CAPTURE TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THAT RIGHT THE OTHER EXPENSES AND THEN A REDUCTION IN OVERTIME.

THE BIGGEST WAY WE ARE SAVING THESE DOLLARS IS THE CURRENT OVERTIME BUDGET.

THIS YEAR WE'RE BUDGETED JUST OVER $3.2 MILLION FOR OVERTIME .

55% OF THAT IS USED TO BACKFILL SHIFTS FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE CALL OUTS OR OR HAVE EXPERIENCED A TRAUMATIC EVENT DURING. THEIR SHIFT AND NEED A COUPLE OF DAYS TO DECOMPRESS. SO FOR THE MAJORITY OF OUR EMS RESPONDERS ARE NOT WORKING 2448 THEY'RE WORKING 4824 AND IT IS TAKING A TOLL ON THE STAFF IN TO THE FOUR SHIFT WILL REDUCE THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL STRESS ON STAFF BY A MORE FAVORABLE WORK LIFE BALANCE.

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THE FOUR SHIFT ROTATION WILL IMPROVE RETENTION AND ATTRACT THE MOST SKILLED PARAMEDICS AND EMT. EMT TO OUR ORGANIZATION TO ENSURE COUNTY REMAINS AN EMPLOYER OF CHOICE AMONG ITS AGENCIES. BRIEFLY, I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT A COUPLE OF CASE STUDY. SO THROUGHOUT THIS THROUGHOUT THE PAPER I IDENTIFIED SEVERAL OTHER AGENCIES WHO HAVE ALREADY CONVERTED THIS SHIFT AND I'LL TALK TO YOU FOR JUST A MOMENT THE REASONS WHY IDENTIFY THOSE RIGHT UP FRONT IT IS THAT WORK LIFE BALANCE MAKING SURE THAT OUR RESPONDERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOVER AFTER A LONG SHIFT I DETAILED WHAT A SHIFT LOOKS FOR THEM THE AVERAGE THE AVERAGE SHIFT IN VIEW FOR A COUNTY FOR AN EMS EMPLOYEE AS THEY RESPOND TO ABOUT 5.3 INCIDENTS PER DAY AND YOU DON'T THINK THAT SO MUCH UNTIL YOU CALCULATE THE TIME IT TAKES FOR THEM TO RESPOND? IT'S ABOUT THREE AND A HALF HOURS PER INCIDENT OR ALMOST 18 AND A HALF HOURS A DAY THAT THEY ARE PHYSICALLY PROVIDING A SERVICE OR PROVIDING THE RECOVERY IT TAKES TO DO THAT SERVICE.

SO ANYTHING FROM REPORT WRITING TO RESTOCKING THEIR VEHICLES, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF SO 18 HOUR DAY AND THAT TYPE OF STRESSFUL JOB THERE'S ONLY A FEW HOURS LEFT FOR THE OTHER THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO LIKE MAYBE GET SOME REST AND MAYBE FIND SOME LUNCH AND THERE'S GUARANTEE THAT THOSE FEW HOURS LEFT IN THE DAY ARE ALL ALIGNED WITH ONE ANOTHER.

THEY'RE GOING TO GET AN HOUR AT 2 A.M. AND AN HOUR AT THREE IN THE AFTERNOON AND MAYBE AN HOUR HERE. THIS IS A VERY CHALLENGING FOR OUR RESPONDERS ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE FREQUENTLY HAVING TO WORK THE BACKUP SHIFT. THEY DO THIS FOR 24 HOURS AND THEN THEY HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN THE FOLLOWING DAY I TALK ABOUT SOME RESEARCH THAT WE DO INTERNALLY AND THE AND THE EFFECT OF THAT WE DO A NEAR MISS REPORTING SYSTEM AND I TALK ABOUT THAT WE SEE OUR OWN ORGANIZATION THAT THE TREND OF NEAR MISSES INCREASES AROUND THAT 36 HOUR MARK. SO WHEN OUR STAFF MEMBERS ARE ASKED TO WORK THOSE TWO BACK TO BACK SHIFTS THAT POTENTIAL FOR MEDICAL ERRORS OR MISTAKES OR DRIVING INCIDENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE INCREASES. SO ALL OF THESE ARE REASONS TO JUSTIFY THIS REQUEST.

AIKEN COUNTY WENT THROUGH A SIMILAR ISSUE IN 2022. THEY DID A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUDIES THEY IMPLEMENTED THIS KIND OF THIS PROGRAM IN MAY OF 2023 AND IMMEDIATELY SAW A CHANGE. I WILL SEND YOU THAT INFORMATION SO YOU CAN READ IT BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY LARGE. JUST THIS SUNDAY THE CHARLESTON POST AND COURIER WROTE AN ARTICLE ABOUT CHARLESTON COUNTY EMS. IT WAS EXACTLY WHERE I THINK WE WILL BE IF WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THE NEXT YEAR. I THINK THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS REACHED A POINT OF CRISIS, DID A BUNCH OF EVALUATION AND ARE MAKING CHANGES NOW.

WE HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES BEFORE WE REACH THAT LEVEL OF CRISIS SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU IS TO SUPPORT THE ADDITION OF THAT FOUR SHIFT FOR BE FOR COUNTY EMS IN THE FORM OF IT WHEN IT COMES FORWARD IN THE BUDGET. WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT FOR THAT.

OKAY. MR. PERSONAL COUNSEL, ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU THAT.

THIS IS NEEDED. THE REAL CHALLENGE IS WHERE DO YOU GET THE BODIES TO FILL THE FOURTH SHOW? YES, SIR. THAT'S GOING TO BE THE REAL CHALLENGE. WE JUST HEARD ABOUT OUR BENEFITS PACKAGE, HOW GOOD IT IS. I WOULD OUR OWN EMS STAFF ARE TO BE OUR BEST RECRUITERS BECAUSE THEY TALK EMS STAFF ALL OVER THE STATE. YES, SIR.

THEY MAY BE THE ONES THAT SAY LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE COME WITH US.

WELL, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND I'VE SPOKEN TO THE EMS DIRECTOR SEVERAL TIMES AND WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT MUCH OF OUR EXECUTIVE STAFF IN EMS THEY WORK THEY OFF THEY GO TO ALL THESE TRAININGS AND CONFERENCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND A LOT OF OUR STAFF ARE SO EXPERIENCED THEY OFTEN ARE THE JUDGES FOR COMPETITIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THEY HAVE THIS NETWORK OF FOLKS. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE STAFF MEMBERS NOW WHO ARE SEEKING THAT IMPROVED WORK LIFE BALANCE AND WAITING FOR ME FOR COUNTY TO TO MAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY BEFORE THEY LEAVE. THERE ARE OTHERS THAT WORK AT OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE WAITING FOR ME FOR COUNTY TO MAKE THIS CHANGE SO THAT THEY CAN COME ON

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SO WE WILL ATTRACT FOLKS TO FOR COUNTY EMS FROM ALL OVER IT'S MR. HAMMOND.

SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE VACANCIES? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE A RICH PACKAGE.

YES, WE DO. SO WHY DO WE HAVE VACANCIES IF WE'RE SUCH A GOOD COUNTY TO WORK FOR? WHY DO WE HAVE VACANCIES AND AROUND US THEY'RE NOT AT THE 2472, CORRECT? YES THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT ARE AT 24/7 TO US.

YES, MA'AM. THERE'S A THERE'S A LIST IN THERE THAT I THEM OUT.

AGENCIES PULLED THAT I SEE LIST OF WHO PULLS FROM US. MM HMM.

THAT MEANS THEY'RE ON 4/7. YES. ALL THE ALL THE ALL THE AGENCIES THAT LISTED IN THEIR REPORT ARE CURRENTLY ON 2472. I THINK GOT AIKEN, ABBEVILLE, MARLBORO, FAIRFAX, CALHOUN, EDGEFIELD CHESTER THERE ARE A NUMBER THAT ARE THERE.

MOST OF THOSE ARE PRETTY SMALL. THEY ARE. BUT SO WHY ARE WE HAVING TROUBLE RECRUITING? IS IT THE LOW BASE PAY? HMM.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A GOOD BENEFIT PACKAGE WE JUST GOT DONE DISCUSSING, RIGHT? SO AND WE'RE A BIG COUNTY AND THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY. IS IT BECAUSE OUR BASE IS LOW? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THERE'S A COMBINATION OF FACTORS.

SO ALL OF THESE TO DO WITH OF COURSE FIRST WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WORK LIFE BALANCE.

THE COMPENSATION IS ALWAYS A THERE'S ALWAYS A REASON FOR RECRUITMENT.

NOW I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT THAT'S 100% OF OUR PROBLEM. OUR BENEFITS PACKAGE IS INCREDIBLE. COUNTY IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK.

I ALSO TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CALLS PER DAY THAT THAT OUR RESPONDERS GO TO.

SO IF THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ,GO TO A COMPETITOR WHO'S WHOSE COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS ARE SIMILAR BUT THEIR WORKLOAD WHEN THEY'RE ON SHIFT IS SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED.

THEY JOHN, BECAUSE IT'S A SMALLER RESPONSE AREA, THE NUMBER OF CALLS MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO THE OVERTIME PIECE OF THIS THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE OVERTIME IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT. MAKING ADJUSTMENTS YES ON BASE PAY TO SPECIFICALLY V.A. WHEN YOU JUST RATE I THINK FOUR YEARS AGO NO IT WAS SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE I STARTED MOVING SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. I THINK SO THREE YEARS AGO FOUR YEARS AGO THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. I HAVE A QUESTION IS EXCELLENT REPORT.

BUT THE OTHER THING IS AND I KNOW I DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT'S BEEN TRAINING BUT THEY DO A LOT OF TRAINING JUST TO KEEP THEIR YES MA'AM SKILLS AND THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE 18 HOURS PER SHIFT BUT THEY'RE ON THE FIVE CALL. YES.

FIVE PLUS CALLS THAT THEY GET SO THE THE STATE REQUIREMENT FOR FOR TRAINING FOR CONTINUING EDUCATION IS THEY HAVE TO BE OFF DUTY TO DO THAT TRAINING SO THEY DON'T TAKE AWAY FROM THEIR DAILY WORK. SO WE DO A OF TRAINING ONCE A MONTH AND ROTATING SHIFTS THAT THAT THEY ALSO ATTEND. SO IT'S A MINIMUM OF 3 HOURS A MONTH THAT THEY DO JUST IN A WORLD. OKAY. ANY OTHER JUST ONE LAST THOUGHT. FIRST OF ALL, MR. ROBINSON, THANKS FOR IS DIRECTLY GOING TO IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY IT'S GOING TO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE IN TO YOUR STEAD THIS WHOLE STAFF FOR THIS CORRECT? YES, SIR. I WAS AT BEAUFORT MEMORIAL YESTERDAY, HAD TO SPEND SOME TIME THERE AND THEIR BEDS COMPLETELY FILLED.

THE EMS IS IN AND OUT CONSTANTLY. SO I GET THAT FOR THE FIRST SIX PER DAY AND ANYTHING YOU CAN DO OR ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU HELP THEM LET KNOW.

WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES, I'M SURE.

I KNOW 24 HOUR SHIFT IS KIND OF THE STANDARD BUT IF WE HAD THAT A SHIFT, IS THERE A WAY TO MAYBE DROP IT DOWN TO 12? WOULD THAT HELP ANYTHING OR IS 24 HOUR THE BEST? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BETTER NOT DO IT. IT IS SO 24 HOURS RIGHT NOW FOR A CALL VOLUME IS IS THE RIGHT NUMBER. THERE ARE SOME VERY LARGE AGENCIES WHO REDUCE THEIR SHIFT HOURS TO 12 LIKE NEW YORK CITY BECAUSE OF THEIR CALL VOLUME IS SO LARGE AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT WE'RE TALKING 26,000 EMPLOYEES FOR ONE ORGANIZATION FOR SO THAT'S HUGE. THEY AT SOME POINT DON'T EVEN HAVE STATIONS.

THEY JUST HAVE A POST AND THEY THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR CALLS.

THEY STACK UP. SO IT'S A MUCH, MUCH DIFFERENT AND I THINK I TO STRESS EXPERTIZE ON THIS. I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION IS DOES THIS NEED TO COME BEFORE THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE OR THE THE FINANCE MINISTRY BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET ADMINISTRATION AND THE. YES, WE CAN CERTAINLY COME FORWARD AND HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AT COMMITTEE IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. BUT I THINK IT YOU KNOW, THE

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SO YEAH THERE'S THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY NOW WITH THE 26 OPENINGS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TO TO TECHNICALLY ADVERTISE THAT WE'RE GOING MAKE THIS SHIFT AND WE CAN BEGIN TO DO THAT NOW BUT THE RISK THAT I HAVE IS TO TALK TO MY DIRECTOR AND SAY GO AND DO THIS AND WE IF IT'S NOT IMPROVED IN THE BUDGET WE DON'T GET TO TAKE IT BACK.

SO THAT'S WHY THE CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE AND SOME KIND OF FORMAL RECOGNITION OR APPROVAL FROM COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL THAT THIS IS DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO.

I'D LIKE YOU TO COME TO THE FINANCE OR WHEREVER YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT IT BECAUSE I'M NOT CONVINCED. SO YOU IN IT GO A LONG WAY CONVINCE THEM BUT THE THE VOLUME OF CALLS DIFFERS PER STATION. IT DOES LIKE I KNOW STATION 34 IS ON THE ROLL ALL DAY EVERY DAY IN SIN CITY BUT THE TYPE OF CALL IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN ON SAINT HELENA. THIS IS LIFTING THIS IS THAT'S ON A THREE HOUR CALL THAT'S NOT A THREE HOUR PAPERWORK AND I DO DESCRIBE THAT IN THERE THERE'S A WHOLE SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW THE AVERAGES WORK OUT.

I'M HAPPY THAT THESE ARE THESE ARE THESE THESE ARE WELL THESE ARE EXACTLY THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING THE FOLLOW OUT OF COMMITTEE. YEAH.

OKAY. THANK YOU BOTH. JUST TO BE DETAILED REPORT, JOHN. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO I WOULD ALL BE OKAY.

COUPLE OF ARTICLES THAT ARE THERE. SO YES SIR.

I WAS GOING TO SAY JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS SOMETHING WE WORK FOR THE THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR FOR CONSIDERATION. YEAH.

AND SO I HAVE A SUMMARY SLIDE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WHERE WE ARE IS WHERE YOU GUYS WANT TO COME OUT OF THIS SESSION WITH SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BRINGING THE 3% COLA FORWARD. WE'VE TALKED THE IDEA OF THE EMS SCHEDULE SHIFT AND I'M ON MY PAPER I SCRATCHED THROUGH OPEN RANGE AND CIRCLED STEP HYBRID SYSTEM OF WHAT YOU WANT US TO KIND OF BRING BACK AN OPTION WITH YEAH AND THEN THE LIST OF HANDBOOK POLICIES THAT SHE LISTED HER PRESENTATION THE LAST THING I PUT ON HERE WAS A POTENTIAL FOLLOW MEETING ON IDEAS WITH RETIREE INSURANCE. ANYBODY OBJECT ANY OF THAT? NO.

[7.b. Facilities - Existing Buildings & Future Needs]

ALL RIGHT, LET'S LOOK. I'M GOING TO HAND THIS OFF TO MY OTHER PERSONALITY SO I'M JUST GOING TO STAY HERE. THIS IS IN FACILITIES. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO DOWN DEEP BUT WE'RE TRYING WE NEED TO REALLY CHANGE HOW WE NAME THINGS AND WE LOOK AT SPREADSHEETS SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE OUR VOCABULARY A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW WHEN WE SEE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, SEE IP ,THERE'S A PERCEPTION SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT'S ALL NEW BUILDINGS, SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT'S EXISTING BUILDINGS. SOME PEOPLE THINK I MEAN NOBODY THINKS THAT THAT BY SOFTWARE NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THAT BUYS CARS AND EQUIPMENT.

SO WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS HOW DO WE CHANGE OUR TERMINOLOGY? MY SCRIPT DIDN'T WORK HERE FOR THE IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. I'M GLAD YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE CURSOR WAS UGLY FOR. SO NEXT EXISTING FACILITY IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO SEPARATE OUT WE HAVE AS I'LL GET TO IN A MINUTE HUNDRED AND 31 BUILDINGS WE SPEND THE VAST WE SPEND AT HALF AND LET ME TO BACK UP AND SAY FIRST WE'RE GOING TO GO UP HERE AND SAY WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. THERE'S YOU GUYS DON'T SPEND ENOUGH MONEY AND THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION BUT NOT REALLY IN THE LAST THREE YEARS COUNTY COUNCIL HAS MORE FULLY FUNDED IF YOU LOOK BACK FARTHER THERE WAS ALMOST AN IGNORING OF EXISTING FACILITIES AT SOME TIME IN THE PAST FEW YEARS COUNTY COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE BEEN UP AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE NOW IS WITH SOME LEAPS DONE, SOME BIG PROJECTS ROOF ON THIS BUILDING EXPENSIVE WE ON THIS BUILDING EXPENSIVE MAJOR HPC REPLACEMENT AT THE COURTHOUSE VERY EXPENSIVE BUILDING THE ARTHUR HORN BUILDING ETC. WE'VE REALLY PLAYED GOOD CATCHUP IN OUR STAFF IS DOING A GOOD JOB AND BECAUSE OF THESE LAST FEW YEARS OR REALLY NEED IN ALL THESE AREAS ARE A MORE CONSISTENT FUNDING AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D BRING BACK IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

HOW DO WE INSTEAD OF LUMPING THIS BIG NUMBER THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR THE IP AND HAVING A GRASP FLEET AND A GRASP FOR MAINTENANCE OF BUILDINGS AND NEED TO BUY A COUPLE OF NEW BUILDINGS AND OH BY THE WAY THIS ALSO COVERS OUR PURCHASE OF SOFTWARE AND SO THE

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SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THESE FUNDS OR WHAT ARE THESE THINGS.

ONE IS EXISTING FACILITY FUND WE CAN SOME CALL IT A RESERVE FUND SOME PEOPLE EVEN HAVE DEDICATED MILLAGE ON THEIR BILL AND WHAT THAT POTENTIALLY IS ESTABLISH A TRANSPARENCY TO THE CITIZEN THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR AND ALSO ESTABLISHES A DISCIPLINE FOR STAFF THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE USING IT FOR SO BUT THAT WOULD JUST BE AN OPTION THAT WE WOULD BRING A SECOND ONE. WE HAVE PARKS AND RECREATION YES WE HAVE IMPACT FEES BUT WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS OF FACILITY NEEDS THAT I'LL COVER IN JUST A SECOND THAT ARE JUST WAITING ON IMPACT FEES. WE'VE GOT MASTER PLANS ON THE BOOK WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND. PARKS AND REC HAS BEEN ALSO A SUBSTANTIAL IN A GOOD WAY WE NEED TO IT'S AN ACTIVE FOR SOME OF THESE NEW CONSTRUCTION COMES FROM IMPACT FEES BUT A LOT OF THE FACILITY EXISTING FACILITY MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT CHARLES LIMB BROWN EXAMPLE REPAIRS OUT OTHER PLACES ETC. LIKE COMMUNITY CENTERS IN THE LAST WITH THE CAPITAL LET'S DEFINE AS NEW THINGS ANYTHING WE BUILD NEW OR ADD ON TO SOMETHING THAT'S BUILDING CAPACITY WE WOULD THEN IN FUTURE DISCUSSIONS TALK ABOUT THAT AS A TRUE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE CAPITAL FUND EXPENDITURE FOR YOU GUYS. SO WITHOUT GOING DOWN THAT TOO MUCH FARTHER, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE ANY QUESTIONS? NO DEFINITIONS WAS DEFINITION SO NEXT SO 131 BUILDINGS 900,000 PLUS SQUARE FEET. OUR CURRENT PERSON IN CHARGE OF FACILITIES IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF BUILDING THIS INVENTORY AND BUILDING PLANS FOR LONG TERM TWO YEAR, FIVE YEAR TEN YEAR MAINTENANCE BUT LONG TERM WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE MORE WE NEED TO KNOW THAT IN THREE YEARS HOWEVER WE DELINEATE IT WE'RE GOING TO WHETHER IT'S A DOLLAR OR A MILLAGE EQUIVALENT OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE $5 MILLION A YEAR. SO I KNOW THAT I CAN FIX THESE PRIORITIES THIS YEAR AND I KNOW THAT THE THIRD YEAR I'M STILL GOING TO HAVE IT THERE. SO THAT THIRD PRIORITY YOUR STUFF IS STILL GOING TO GET DONE SO WE CAN PROBABLY PROPERLY PLAN SO WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND AND WE'LL COME BACK THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS AND IF THERE'S A FOLLOW UP ON THIS IS WE NEED A REC WE WE WON'T KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS IN YEAR ONE WE DO HAVE HISTORY.

WE KNOW WHAT WE'VE SPENT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS AND WE COULD COME IN WITH A YEAR ONE FUNDING BUT WE DON'T WANT TO GUESS ONLY ON YEAR ONE POTENTIALLY WOULD BE AN ESTIMATE AND DURING THAT YEAR WE WOULD HAVE AN ESTIMATED NUMBER PLUS FUND A TRUE WE'VE DONE MASTER PLAN FACILITY PLAN BUT THAT WAS REALLY FOR SPACE NEEDS.

IT WASN'T A TRUE STATUS EVALUATION OF EACH BUILDING WE'VE DONE A LOT IN HOUSE BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND SAY ALL THESE BUILDINGS IN A THEY CAN BE A YEAR FOR THIS SITUATIONS ARE BE THEY CAN IN YEAR THREE THESE ARE GOOD THINGS ETC. TO TO THE NOW AND SO WE WOULD ASK AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS DURING THAT PROCESS IF YOU SHOULD SO DESIRE WOULD BE TO COME BACK ASK FOR A NUMBER THIS YEAR BUT THEN IN FUTURE YEARS TRY TO GET IT WHERE IT'S A TRUE SOLID CONSISTENT NUMBER GOING FORWARD SO WE CAN PLAN.

ABSOLUTELY. I'M SORRY OUT OF THE 131 BUILDINGS DO IS ANY ROOM FOR CONSOLIDATION DO WE NEED TO EXPAND? DO WE KNOW THAT HOW MANY ARE OCCUPIED ACTUALLY? WELL, LET ME ABOUT ALMOST ALL ARE OCCUPIED NOT EVERY OFFICE IN EVERY SINGLE BUILDING BUT THESE ARE BUSY ACTIVE BUILDINGS PART OF THAT SPACE ASSESSMENT WHEN WE DID THE FACILITY MASTER PLAN TALKED ABOUT CONSOLIDATION OF BUILDINGS ETC. AND IT SOUNDS GOOD BUT TO BUILD TO THESE CONSOLIDATED BUILDINGS AS WE'RE SEEING WITH PUBLIC WORKS UNTIL WE HAVE NOW READJUSTED WHICH BRING BACK TO YOU THIS YEAR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW $3,040 MILLION BUILDINGS AS OPPOSED TO MEAN A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS ARE GOOD.

I MEAN YOU GUYS HAD A COUNCIL MEETING AT HILTON HEAD AT THE LIBRARY.

THAT'S A NICE BUILDING BUT THAT ROOF NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND THAT'S EXPENSIVE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST SLAP SHINGLES ON A BUILDING IN HILTON HEAD. SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR. BUT I UNDERSTAND I MEAN OVER TIME WE WILL DEFINITELY AT THAT AS PEOPLE. I MEAN THERE'S A USEFUL LIFE OF A BUILDING AND IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS OF PLANNED MAINTENANCE YOU KNOW WHEN SOMETHING'S DYING, WE HAVE TIME TO THEN BUILD IT INTO A REPLACEMENT PLAN ON THE CAPITAL .

AND THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING IS IF IF THERE IS A WAY TO CONSOLIDATE AND SELL OF THESE OFF AND PUT IT BACK INTO THE FUND FOR MAINTAINING THE CURRENT BUILDING RIGHT.

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT ONE BUILDING DOWN IN HILTON HEAD AND WE JUST DID A LEASE IS PRETTY MUCH VACANT BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY TRUE. WE HAVE PROBATE, PROBATION AND PAROLE SO AN AGENCY IMAGE OF IT ALL IS MITCHELL BILL IS THERE BUT THERE'S ALSO VETERANS AFFAIRS AND CLEMSON EXTENSION BUT THE TREASURER ASSESSOR COMING BACK NOW THEY'RE USING THAT FOR THE TWO WE WENT AND SAW IT IT WAS THE TWO MISSING COMPONENTS RIGHT NOW ARE WHEN THE WHERE THOSE TWO THE MOST VISIBLE PLACE IS RIGHT IN THE FRONT WHERE THE TREASURER AND

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OKAY GO AHEAD COUNCILMAN. OH I THINK THIS IS A ESSENTIAL CERTAINLY A STUDY HAS TO BE DONE ON THE BUILDINGS SO THAT YOU CAN DEVELOP THE PLAN YOU'RE GOING TO NEED FOR THE ANNUAL EXPENDITURES TO FIX THE ROOFS, THE WINDOWS, HBC INTERIOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT GO AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME SO THAT YOU KNOW, THESE THREE BUILDINGS THIS YEAR NEED ROOFS.

RIGHT. AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT AN EXTENSIVE LOOK AT ALL 131 BUILDINGS. SO YOU GO AHEAD. I JUST WANT TO JUMP BACK TO WHAT MR. BARTHOLOMEW SAID THE AUDITOR AND THE TREASURER ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO BRING BACK THOSE SERVICES TO OUR PEOPLE ON HILTON HEAD BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF THE OLDER PEOPLE AND WHY DO WE WANT THEM TO GO OVER FOR THEM? SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A KEY THING THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS. I THINK THEY'LL HAVE TO ADD SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF OUR LINE, STAY THAT. BUT I'M SAYING LISTEN, WE THESE PEOPLE WE HAVE TO TO THEM THOUGH HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK A MAINTENANCE INVENTORY SURVEY PLAN THAT WOULD THAT SEEMS LIKE THE FIRST STEP. I AGREE.

SO WE WILL BRING THAT BACK. THAT'S WHAT I TO ASK ABOUT IT NOW IN THIS EARLY FEBRUARY MEETING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE REAL NUMBERS WHEN IT COMES TIME TO BUILD THAT.

BUT WHAT HE'S SAYING IS WE WOULD BASED ON HISTORICAL FOR THIS FIRST YEAR BUT ALSO FUND THE STUDY THIS PART OF THE BUDGET I MEAN ONE OF THE THINGS ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANT TO DO THIS IS FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES AS WELL. GOT IT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW OUR INSURANCE IS BASED UPON OH OKAY . AS YOU KNOW, I'M A PROPONENT OF THIS I THINK IT ALSO OFFERS TO OUR RESIDENTS SO THEY UNDERSTAND WE'RE FORWARD FOR WITH THE RESERVE STUDY MY GUESS IS WE'RE GOING TO HIT A $100,000 OR MORE FOR THAT LITTLE SUN CITIES 30 GRAND BUT IT OFFERS A PLANNING TOOL AND OUR PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT HAPHAZARDLY WAITING UNTIL BUILDING LEAKS AND THEN WE FIX IT.

SO I LOVE THE PLAN. I LOVE THE IDEA AND I LOVE TALKING ABOUT A CAPITAL FUND PARKS AND REC FUND. I THINK IT GIVES CLARITY TO OUR PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BRING US BACK THAT WOULD WOULD COME BACK IN A BUDGET PROCESS OR WORKSHOP WHERE YOU GUYS WOULD WANT TO DO THAT. BUT TO YOUR POINT TO THE STUDY WHILE IT DOES COST MONEY BY FIXING THINGS PROACTIVELY WE SAVE A BUNCH OF MONEY IN THE END YES IT'S A DEBATE AND WE TO DAVID'S POINT ONCE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUILDINGS TO SEE WHICH BUILDINGS WE HAVE AND THE CONDITION OF THEM THE SECONDARY THING WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IS HOW MANY PIECES OF PROPERTY DO WE HAVE? WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT END OF THIS YEAR.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT AT THE END OF THE SESSION TODAY .

SO I THINK THIS IS ALL GOOD. EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH MOVING FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP JUST SO YOU KNOW THIS IS JUST KIND OF PILE ON A LITTLE BIT. SOME OF THESE ARE BIG TICKET MAINTENANCE ISSUES WE DON'T NEED TO DWELL BUT WE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE'VE SO LET'S JUST GO TO ADMINISTRATION IN THE MIDDLE BECAUSE WE JUST DID I JUST MENTIONED THE ROOF AND THEY SEE WE HAVE A 34 YEAR OLD BOILER THAT HEATS THIS BUILDING.

BY THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO REPLACE THIS YEAR AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO $1,000,000 UPFRONT WHICH THEN MAKES IT A NEW BUILDING SO THAT GETS IT OFF THE RESERVE LIST ETC.

MYRTLE PARK IS DO WE HAVE AN ELEVATOR MODERNIZATION PROGRAM FOR THIS BUILDING THAT BUILDING AND ANOTHER BUILDING AS WELL BECAUSE THE ELEVATOR IS A NIGHTMARE.

BUT WE ALSO FACILITY STAFF FOUND A WAY WITH COMPANIES TO MODERNIZE THESE ELEVATOR SYSTEMS AND NOT COMPLETELY TEAR OUT AND REPLACE WHICH IS GOING TO SAVE US ABOUT 50% OF THE COST IT SO THE STAFF HAS REALLY DONE A GOOD JOB IN THAT PARKS AND REC FACILITIES I TOLD YOU THERE ARE COSTS AS MUCH WEAR AND IS JUST ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE LAST ONE THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT AND I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER FOR A VERY SHORT EXPLANATION BUT.

OUR FACILITY STAFF IS IN THAT BUILDING RIGHT NOW AT THE DETENTION CENTER.

HOW OLD IS MYRTLE PARK? I DON'T KNOW THE NAME NUMBER ON THAT BUT THAT'S A BUILDING THAT IS BASICALLY FULL IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BUT IT'S STRUCTURE AT 32008 TO 2000 YEAH SO 15 YEARS OLD IT LOOKS WORE OUT YES JOHN COME AND TALK ABOUT INTENTIONS AND ABOUT WHY HE'S COMING OVER THERE. I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU THAT OUR STAFF IS OVER ALL THE TIME WORKING ON ISSUES WITH PLUMBING AND CLOGGING AND WHEN YOU THINK WELL THE BUILDING IS ONLY 30 SOMETHING YEARS OLD, IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT 90 YEARS OLD BECAUSE IT OPERATES 24 SEVEN.

I THINK SOMEBODY HAD SENT SOMETHING OUT ABOUT AND HE'S GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES. I'LL BRING UP HIS PROPS. THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN THE BUILDING DIGGING UP THE FLOOR AND REPLACING THE DRAIN PIPES BECAUSE IT'S OLD IRON SITTING UNDER. AND SO WE'RE WE ARE TO MAINTAIN IT BUT THAT BECOMES SOMETHING WHEN YOU DO YOUR RESERVE STUDY IS WE TO IF YOU DECIDED TODAY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER OR DO SOMETHING THERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE FIVE OR SIX YEARS TO DO IT. WE'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN AND KEEP THIS OPERATION BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ITS CAPACITY RIGHT RIGHT. SO EVERYTHING THAT SAID IS WHAT WHAT WHAT WE HAVE HERE ARE A COUPLE OF PIECES OF PLUMBING THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED OUT

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SO ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE AN EXAMPLE THIS WAS JUST LAST WEEK YOU SEE THE WHEELBARROW FULL OF PLUMBING RIGHT THERE. EVERY BIT OF THAT PLUMBING LOOKS JUST LIKE THIS.

IT IS CRUMBLING. THERE ARE TWO GUYS DOWN IN THAT HOLE AND WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE IS THEY HAVE HAD TUNNEL UNDERNEATH THE WALLS. SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE THE DETENTION CENTERS OUT OF CONCRETE SO ALL OF THIS PLUMBING FOR THEM TO ACCESS IS CUTTING THROUGH ALL OF THIS CONCRETE IN THE LAST SIX WEEKS WE'VE SPENT JUST ABOUT $80,000 TO REPLACE 52 FEET OF PLUMBING. WOW. EVERY TIME OUR STAFF GOES IN THERE TO CONDUCT THIS WORK. THEY FIND MORE PROBLEMS. CURRENTLY THE DETENTION CENTER HAS 14 CELLS OUT OF SERVICE. MOST OF THOSE CELLS THAT ARE OUT OF SERVICE ARE DUE TO PLUMBING ISSUES. ONE OF THE HOUSING UNITS WHICH NORMALLY WOULD HAVE FOUR SHOWERS FOR 32 FOLKS IS DOWN TO ONE. THREE OF THOSE SHOWERS ARE OUT OF SERVICE WITH DIRT COMING UP INTO THE INTO THE SHOWER PANS BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE FOR IT TO GO THIS. PROBLEM IS IS ON THE FIRST FLOOR IN THE IN THE KITCHEN AREA IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE WHERE THE DRAINS GO THROUGH. BUT THESE TYPES OF PROBLEMS AFFECT THE ENTIRE BUILDING. SO WHAT I WANT TO DO JUST GIVE YOU A VERY QUICK SUMMARY WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO TODAY IS TO WORK TOGETHER TO DEVELOP A STRATEGY NOW A FUNDING STRATEGY NOW FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THIS DETENTION CENTER IN THE FUTURE THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS WE WOULD REALLY NEED TO MEET THAT WINDOW. AS HANK SAID, WE'RE DOING ALL THE WORK WE CAN NOW TO TO MAINTAIN THIS OPERATION STATUS .

THIS ISN'T ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO SO IMPORTANT THE TWO COMPELLING REASONS TO CONSIDER FUNDING A REPLACEMENT NOW ARE FIRST THE CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AND AS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE INCREASING POPULATION, THE THERE'S A THERE'S IN YOUR IN YOUR DOCUMENT THERE THAT SHOWS THE STATUS OF THAT DETENTION CENTER. THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1992 IT'S WE TALK ABOUT THE INMATE POPULATION AROUND 2008 IT REACHED ITS PEAK AT ITS PEAK AT 366 INMATES, 111 INMATES OVER ITS MAXIMUM CAPACITY. THE OPERATIONAL CAPACITY OF THAT FACILITY IS HUNDRED AND FOUR INMATES. YESTERDAY THE POPULATION WAS 201 OUR MAXIMUM CAPACITY IS AT 255 SO WE'RE YOU CAN SEE BY THAT CHART IN IN THE DOCUMENT THAT I GAVE YOU SINCE 2008 WE DID A LOT OF WORK WITH OUR COURT SYSTEM AND TRIED TO REDUCE THE OF INMATES THAT WERE GOING IN THERE INTO THE DETENTION CENTER WITH DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND YOU'LL SEE THAT A BIG NUMBER IN 2008 AND THIS STEADY REDUCTION RIGHT AROUND TO TO 2000 THOUSAND 21 WHICH THAT IMPACT THAT YOU SEE WAS COVERED THERE WERE A LOT LESS ARRESTS AND INCARCERATIONS THAT TIME PERIOD BUT WE WORKED HARD DURING THAT TIME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF REDUCING THE NUMBER OF NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS IN THE DETENTION CENTER IS WE USED OUR NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS TO HELP MAINTAIN THE FACILITY THEY CLEANED AND THEY PAINTED THEY TOOK CARE OF RIGHT? SO WHEN WE REDUCE THAT OF NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS WE HAD THAT WORKFORCE WAS GONE IT PUT ALL OF THE BURDEN OF MAINTENANCE OF BUILDING ON FACILITIES ITSELF NOW THESE THINGS AND I'M SURE WHEN YOU HEAR AREN'T THAT INMATES WOULD TAKE CARE OF THIS IS OBVIOUSLY SOME TECHNICAL WORK THAT'S BEING DONE BUT SOME OF SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN THE DETENTION CENTER AND THE DEGRADATION IN THERE YOU JUST CAN'T KEEP UP THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING IS 33 OR 33 YEARS OLD THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING IS 100 YEARS OLD AND AND YOU SEE THE EFFECTS OF THAT . SO WE TALKED ABOUT OUR OUR POPULATION NOW AS OF YESTERDAY AFTERNOON WAS 2001 OUR OPERATIONAL CAPACITY IS 204.

OUR MAXIMUM CAPACITY IS 255 INMATES WITH 14 CELLS OUT OF SERVICE AND THEY'RE

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THE CURRENT TREND LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE AVERAGE DAILY POPULATION AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY LOOK AT IT IS LOOK AT THE AVERAGE DAILY POPULATION OVER A MONTH OF PERIOD AND OVER A YEAR IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING ABOUT 27 INMATES EVERY YEAR FOR OUR AVERAGE DAILY POPULATIONS CONTINUING TO INCREASE.

SO YOU SEE RIGHT AT 2022 RIGHT AT TOWARDS THE END OF COVID THAT OUR NUMBER OF INMATES CONTINUE TO INCREASE. IS THAT DUE TO POPULATION INCREASE IN THE COUNTY? IT COULD BE DUE TO POPULATION INCREASE OR INCREASED LAW ENFORCEMENT OR INCREASES IN YOU CAN GO AND LOOK AT ALL THE STATISTICS THE CRIME VERSUS POPULATION AND SEE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING ANOTHER EFFECT OF THAT INCREASE IS IT IS NOT IT IS STILL NOT AN ABUNDANCE OF NONVIOLENT INMATES . THESE ARE STILL EXTREMELY OR VERY VIOLENT INMATES, MANY WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. THE POPULATION IS MORE VIOLENT AND MORE DANGEROUS THAN IT EVER WAS BEFORE BECAUSE THE NONVIOLENT AREN'T THERE TO LOWER THAT AVERAGE OF VIOLENCE IN THE DETENTION CENTER. SO THEY UNDERSTAND AND DO SOME OF THESE VIOLENT OFFENDERS END UP IN PRISON AFTER THEY'RE ADJUDICATED.

YES. IS OUR SOLICITOR PART OF THE PART OF THE COURT SAID YES.

SO THE LITTLE NUMBER ON THE CHART IS THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY.

SO IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO SEE BUT THAT WELL THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND LEADS TO YOUR QUESTION HOW LONG IS IS A SUSPECTED CRIMINAL? SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRETRIAL HOW LONG ARE THEY IN OUR DETENTION CENTER BEFORE THEY'RE REMANDED ELSE AND THAT AVERAGE RIGHT NOW IN 2023 WAS LIKE 11 POINTS 11.75 DAYS AND RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT NINE DAYS.

WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S NOT MUCH I WAS THINKING MORE LIKE A YEAR.

OH WHERE THERE ARE SOME INMATES THAT ARE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE A COUPLE OF YEARS TWO OR THREE YEARS EVEN THERE ARE SOME INMATES WITH HONESTLY MANY OF THE INMATES THAT WE HAVE THAT HAVE AN EXTENDED LENGTH OF STAY OR HAVE DIMINISHED MENTAL CAPACITY AND THERE IS NOWHERE ELSE FOR THEM TO GO. THE MOMENT THEY GET OUT THEY COMMIT ANOTHER CRIME AND THEY END UP RIGHT BACK AND THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO GO SO QUESTIONS OH YES YOU ARE ARE CALLING JUST THE DEGRADATION OR THE PIPES IS IT CAUSING ANY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OR NOT AS FAR AS WE KNOW . OKAY. BUT SO WHERE THIS WHERE WHERE THESE PLUMBING PIPES ARE THEY'RE ABOUT TWO FEET BELOW THE CONCRETE.

SO THAT AREA THAT'S BEING EVACUATED LIKELY THIS IS THAT AREA IS NOT BEING OPEN.

YEAH. WE DON'T SEE ANY SIGN OF THAT AND IT'S CONTAINED WITHIN THE BUILDING. YES MA'AM. I DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO REHAB BUILDING OR REPLACE THAT BUILDING IS SOMETHING THAT IS WELL DOCUMENTED.

YES. I ALSO KNOW THAT OUR SURROUNDING ARE HAVING THE SAME KIND OF PROBLEM AND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS MEETINGS WITH THE FOUR COUNTIES OF CARLTON HAMPTON, JASPER AND BEAUFORT ABOUT A CENTRALIZED DETENTION FACILITY.

YES, SIR. THAT WOULD NOT ONLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM NOW BUT BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE PROBLEMS FOR THE NEXT UMPTEEN YEARS AND BUILDING A BUILDING THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW IN POPULATION WE COULD HOUSE THOSE INMATES. YES, ABSOLUTELY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND THIS THAT THIS FACILITY WHICH IS THE ONE OF ALL THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES COULD BE CONVERTED TO A JUVENILE FACILITY THERE IS RIGHT NOW THE ONLY WAY WE DEAL WITH JUVENILES, THEY HAVE TO GO TO COLUMBIA, WHICH IS VERY COSTLY TO DO YES, SIR. ALL OF THOSE ALL OF THAT POTENTIAL IS THERE. WELL, WHAT WE'RE ASKING TODAY IS WE'RE ASKING TO SUPPORT A STRATEGY TO A REPLACEMENT OF THAT BUILDING IN THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF A STRATEGY DEVELOPED AND DEVELOP A STRATEGY BECAUSE IT TAKES IT WILL TAKE TIME TO WHAT THE NEEDS ARE WHERE IT WOULD GO. YES, MA'AM YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND WE DO HAVE SEVERAL STUDIES WE HAVE A 2008 STUDY AND A 2017 STUDY THAT WAS ALREADY

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AND IT'S VERY AND WE WOULD STILL BE SUBJECT TO THE CURRENT CONDITION DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.

WOULD YOU DO THAT IN-HOUSE AND THEN FOR DESIGN? I WELL FIRST I THINK THIS IS A WORKSHOP US FOR FOR OUR COMMITTEE TO TALK THEM OUT TO TALK ABOUT FUNDING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN THE FUTURE AND THEN WE CAN REACH OUT TO CONSULTANTS TO HELP US WITH WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THEN I THINK WE NEED CONSENSUS ON IS THE REGIONAL IS IT A REGIONAL STRATEGY OR IS IT SOME IS IT IT JUST I THINK WE NEED DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS IS KIND WHERE I'M AT RIGHT I SUPPOSE. ANY COMMENTS.

WELL IF I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WE TALKED TO MR. MOORE ABOUT THIS IF YOU LOOK AT REGIONALLY WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE CARRYING BULK OF THE LOAD. SO THE QUESTION TO YOU ALL WOULD BE IS THAT BENEFICIAL TO THE REGIONAL OR IS IT MORE BENEFICIAL TO STAY OUR OWN COUNTY? YOU AGREED AND I THINK WE AGREE THAT WE WILL COME BACK AND THEN HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION BUT WE WANT TO TEE UP THIS AND IF YOU ALL AGREE WE WILL WORK TO BRING YOU OPTIONS ON THIS AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT FOLLOW UP DETENTION CENTER WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THOSE OPTIONS AGAIN THAT SOUNDS GOOD? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. GOOD THINGS HAVE BEEN ALL RIGHT TO BUILD BACK TO THESE EXISTING FACILITIES CAMP PARKS AND REC AND CAPITAL IS GOING TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE MORE JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT THE EXPENSES ARE THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WILL BE BRINGING YOU BACK STRATEGIES OF HOW TO FUND THESE ARE EXISTING PLANS ON THE TWO THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW BURDEN BULK WATER IS HALF OF WHAT THAT IS ONLY HALF OF THAT'S BUILT OUT TODAY WE HAVE ENOUGH IMPACT FEES WHICH WE'RE ALREADY SPENDING TO BUILD THE TOP TWO FIELDS AND WE'RE WAITING AND COLLECTING TO TRY TO BUILD THE OTHER FIELDS.

THE TENNIS CENTER WAY TO THE LEFT ISN'T EVEN CLOSE TO FUNDED THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THESE PLANS IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW PARKS AND MORE CAPACITY, WE REALLY NEED TO BUILD OUT SOME OF THESE EXISTING PLANS JUST LIKE AT BURTON WELLS SAME THING THE LEFT SIDE IS IN PLACE. SOME OF THAT MIDDLE BOTTOM PART IS IN PLACE FOR THE TOP PART IS ALL FOR RENOVATION. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO BUT. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S OUR BACK UP IS WE WANT TO I'VE HEARD Y'ALL DISCUSS MULTIPLE TIMES NEW PARKS CENTERS FOR GROWTH HOW DO WE HANDLE THIS NEW GROWTH AND CAPACITY AND HAVE SERVICES AROUND THE COUNTY AND IS THERE A DESIRE LONG TERM NOT TO ANSWER TODAY NECESSARILY BUT WE NEED HAVE A FOLLOW UP OF DO WE WANT TO HAVE A BIG SPORTS TOURISM TYPE FACILITY TO DRAW THIS ACTIVITY THAT GENERATES OTHER THINGS BUT THESE ARE BIG TICKET NUMBERS ALONE. BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT ANYTHING NEW AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO STAY IN CAPITAL. THIS NEW THING CAPITAL WHICH IS NEW STUFF SPECIFICALLY PARKS AND REC THAT'S WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A FOLLOW UP.

AND JUST FOR AWARENESS IMPACT FEES WILL NOT CUT IT BUT IT WILL NOT COVER IT IS A BETTER WORD, RIGHT? YEAH, IT WILL NOT COVER IT. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH IMPACT FEES TO DO WHAT THE MASTER PLANS FOR THOSE TWO CENTERS. WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO OKAY OPEN IT UP MAKE QUESTIONS. YES I DO HAVE A QUESTION. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD PUT LET'S USE THE SPLASH PAD IDEA OF A WATER PARK IDEA OF PUT SOMETHING THAT CAN GENERATE REVENUE TO GO BACK INTO FUNDING THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WELL I CAN TELL YOU MY MY FRIEND IN THE CITY BUILT THE WATER PARK AND WHILE IT WOULD GENERATE REVENUE IT NEVER WAS ENOUGH PROFIT. I'LL JUST USE THAT IS THERE IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO BUT THAT'S WHERE THE SPORTS TOURISM FACILITY IS OPPOSED TO BE.

THAT'S A HIGH EXPENSE MAINTENANCE ISSUE. THERE ARE OPTIONS OF HOW YOU SHARE THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE SPORTS TOURISM FACILITY. YOU CAN USE IT FOR YOUR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES BUT THEN YOU CAN ALSO HOST THESE TOURNAMENTS THAT PEOPLE NOT NECESSARILY YOU RUN BECAUSE CERTAINLY AS WE RUN THEM THERE ARE OTHER FACILITIES AND I'M NOT SAYING WHERE RIGHT OR WRONG BUT THEY LITERALLY CONTRACT THE FACILITY FOR SOMEBODY TO RUN IT AND THEY IT OR THERE'S A HYBRID WHERE YOU HOST AND RUN BUT THOSE ARE WHAT SPORTS TOURISM FACILITIES COULD BE DISCUSSED IN IN A FOLLOW UP YOU ARE WE LOOKING AT ANY GRANTS, FEDERAL GRANTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? STATE GRANTS HELP FUND SOME OF THESE THERE'S ALWAYS ALWAYS I THINK AN EXCITING NAME. I THINK YOUR COUNTY HAD A MILLAGE SET ASIDE.

YES. FOR WHAT THEY DO IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS THERE'S A MILLAGE, A PARKS AND REC MILLAGE AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WENT TO SAY IF WE COME WOULD BE ONE OF THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS OF HOW WOULD WE BACK TO DEFINING IT'S AN EXISTING FACILITIES OR CAPITAL NON PARKS THIS MONEY IS FOR THIS AND THEN YOU KNOW THE TAXPAYER KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE THE STAFF KNOWS WHAT IT'S USED FOR AND I WILL JUST HIGHLIGHT ONE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS COUNTY AND YOUR COUNTY IS. THE COUNTY BEAUFORT COUNTY RUNS PARKS WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITY WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE IN FOR THE MOST PART IN YOUR RIGHT AND

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I MEAN SOME SOME COUNTIES DO USE SALES TAX FOR EMERGENCY. RIGHT.

BUT THAT MIGHT NOT BE FEASIBLE FOR AND WE'LL THROW THAT OUT THERE AS AN OPTION LATER FOR A FOLLOW UP. THE ANSWER TODAY IS LONG TERM STRATEGY WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT TO DO WITH SALES TAX? BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY. ANY THE WISE WORDS SO RIGHT. OH OKAY ANYTHING ELSE THEN ON PARKS AND REC CAPITAL THESE BIG BIG TICKET ITEMS. OKAY.

IF WE EVER WANT TO BUILD THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IN OKATIE WE'RE TALKING A COUPLE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS POTENTIALLY AIRPORT EXPANSION PHASE TWO I THINK THE NUMBER I HEARD LAST WAS ABOUT $7,070 MILLION AND THE FIRST GALLON FERRY I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW ONE DAY WE'LL ACTUALLY OWN PROPERTY AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT FUTURE SERVICE SITES AND GROWTH POINT IS I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE THAT IF YOU HAVE A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE THAT YOU CAN THEN ACCRUE OVER TIME BECAUSE IT'S DEDICATED OR BECAUSE IT'S COMING ON A REGULAR BASIS YOU ACCRUE OR BOND AGAINST THAT JUST BECOMES PART OF YOUR PLANNING PROCESS JUST TO THROW IT OUT THERE. NOW IT'S TIME FOR PINKY AND ME FOR YOU GO GO BACK TO HILTON HEAD AIRPORT. YES SIR.

HILTON IS IN THE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT ENTERPRISE FUNDS PINK IS ABOUT TO COVER THAT'S GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AND THAT'S PARTLY WHY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ON HOW TO PUT THIS TOGETHER WE KNEW THAT THAT QUESTIONS COME IN THAT'S WHY SHE'S GOING TO COME AND TALK ABOUT THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS JUST FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR EVERYONE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER IN OUR BOND WE ARE WORKING THEM. I'M GLAD I'M TALKING TO YOU BUT THE TWO THINGS ON HERE HAVE PARTIAL FUNDING. THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER MASTER PLAN PROCESS IS FUNDED IN THIS CURRENT BOND THAT WAS ISSUED.

ADDITIONALLY THE LAST ONE DOWN THERE IS OFF THE LIST OF NEEDING FUNDING BECAUSE THAT ALSO FUNDS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS HEADQUARTERS ON SHANKLIN.

YEAH AND WHILE THAT'S FUNDED WE STILL NEED TO LOOK AT AND WE WILL DISCUSS THE REFERENDUM AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO THERE. SO THAT'S COMING UP. OH SORRY, ALL RIGHT OUR INTERNET OUTAGE YESTERDAY IS WHY MY SLIDES LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHERS.

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IT'S WHERE GOVERNMENT RECORD BUSINESS TYPE ACTIVITIES AND THESE TYPES OF FINE SO THEY'RE GENERALLY BUDGET NEUTRAL SO WE HAVE RIGHT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT ENTERPRISE OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUND IS NOT ACTIVE FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 BUT THERE IS A REQUEST TO GET IT REACTIVATED FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. SO THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL WE WILL REQUEST COUNSEL TO ADDRESS MOVE IT BACK FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO INTERNAL SERVICE FUND WE HAD THE SOLID WASTE RECYCLING STORMWATER UTILITIES.

WE HAVE A SEPARATE FUND FOR THEIR GRANTS SAME WITH LADIES ISLAND AIRPORT OPERATIONS AND THEIR GRANT AND HILTON HEAD WITH THEIR PASSENGER FACILITY AND THEIR GRANTS AS WELL.

SO THESE ARE THE THE EVERY ENTERPRISE FUND WE HAVE ON IN OUR BOOKS NOW.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE ENTERPRISE FUNDS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? WHEN WAS THE SOLID WASTE ESTABLISHED? WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER? I KNOW IT WAS IN 20 I BELIEVE IT WAS 2022 THERE WAS AND JERRY CAN ELABORATE 2021 NO THE ENTERPRISE FUND WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2022 BUDGET BUT IT WAS FIRST CORRECT IT WAS A USER AT ONE POINT THAT WAS PROJECTED AND THEN IT DIDN'T DIDN'T FARE WELL SO I BELIEVE THE DISCUSSION WAS TO TAKE THE AMOUNT OF MILLAGE THAT WAS THE TOTAL OPERATIONS OF SOLID WASTE AND PUT IT INTO

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SO THIS IS YOUR FEE OFF THIS HOUSE DURING THAT DISCUSSION THROUGH COUNCIL AT THE TIME THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT HOW THAT IS APPROPRIATED VERSUS THIS INDIVIDUAL VERSUS THIS INDIVIDUAL AND SO THE DISCUSSION CAME BACK TO MILLAGE SO IT DID ROLL OUT AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND BUT INSTEAD OF ITS USER FEE THE FUNDING MECHANISM WAS MILLAGE THAT WAS ASSIGNED. OKAY I DO KNOW AT ONE TIME THERE WAS A BIG PUSH TO HAVE CURBSIDE FOR ALL RESIDENTS WHICH I THOUGHT WAS KIND OF OUT THERE BUT WAS OUT THERE.

IT ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN BEFORE. SO IN THE EARLY OR LATE NINETIES THERE WAS A CURBSIDE COUNTYWIDE FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT WAS DONE AWAY WITH AND AND AGAIN TRYING TO GO BACK IN HISTORY. BUT I THINK AT THAT TIME WE HAD DUMPSTERS, WE DIDN'T HAVE CONVENIENCE CENTERS SO THE EVOLUTION OF CONVENIENCE CENTERS WHICH HAPPENED STATEWIDE AND WE HOW WASTE MANAGEMENT PLANS WERE DEVELOPED IN INTERSTATE THOSE BECAME THE TREND OF THAT CURBSIDE COUNTY WIDE AND THEN SINCE THEN THAT REALLY HASN'T COME UP.

HAVE WE SEE CURBSIDE CURRENTLY IN THE MUNICIPALITIES AND WE WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT BUT WE HAVE EVALUATED THE FEASIBILITY OF CURB THAT CURBSIDE YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER TO YORK WHEN THEY TRIED TO IMPLEMENT THE CURBSIDE THEY WANTED TO DO THE RECYCLE TOO AT THE SAME TIME AND IT WAS JUST IT FAILED IN SO MANY WAYS AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS ANY PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT'S FAULT IT JUST WAS TO TOO TOO MUCH TOO MUCH EXPENSE FOR. YEAH AND IF THERE'S INTEREST WE CAN LOOK IT AND BRING SOMETHING BACK AND WORKSHOP IT OR WHATEVER THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE. YOU GOING BACK AND FORTH GOING BACK AND FORTH JUST DOESN'T LIKE GOOD SO SO ON THE BACK AND FORTH AND THINK YOU CAN HELP ME OUT ON THIS SO THE INTENT WAS TO SET UP ENTERPRISE FUND SO THAT IT WOULD BE PRIORITIZED AND PAY FOR ITSELF THE BUSINESS LIKE ENTITY WAS THE USER FEE THEN THE MURF LIKE ACTIVITIES TO HELP PRODUCE ADDITIONAL REVENUE. THOSE WERE TWO COMPONENTS THAT WERE GOING TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL WHEN IT GOT ROLLED OUT THE USER FEE WAS NOT APPEALING AND WAS NOT VOTED ON BY COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE FUNDING MECHANISM BECAME MILLAGE AND SINCE THEN WE'VE CONTINUED DOWN THE ROAD WITH THE MURPHY ACTIVITIES AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS ANYHOW WE'RE DOING MURPH LIKE ACTIVITIES WITH A CONTRACT BUILDING OUR OWN MURPH AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN OUR STAGE. WE'VE DONE MORE RESEARCH EVERYWHERE WE WENT WE JUST WASN'T FEASIBLE AND WE PROBABLY DON'T PRODUCE ENOUGH WASTE TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE THIS TIME. I THINK I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS PROBABLY ALL GOOD.

IT'S JUST THAT WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION YOU KNOW YOU I JUST I AGREE AND I THINK THE ONE THING THAT AND BEING IS HERE AND ADDRESSED THERE IS THE DUTY WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF TURNOVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EXPERTS I HOPE THAT THINK HE WILL BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME TO COME AND MR. MOORE AND EACH OF YOU ON COUNCIL AND WITH THAT HOPEFULLY BACK AND FORTH WE CAN RESIGN THAT POSITION AND JUST A FORWARD OFFICIALS WILL SAY I THINK IT'S GOOD THE BUSINESS BUT FROM WHAT HE WAS SAID IF I WERE TO INTERPRET FROM MY

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SO AND I THINK LIKE JARED SAID THERE SOME TURNOVER SO IT'S JUST KIND OF STAYED THAT WAY FOR THREE YEARS. OUR GOAL IS TO KIND OF CLEAN UP THE GENERAL ELECTION AS IT SHOULD BE AND I THINK WE'RE SAYING KIND OF HALF IN HALF OUT AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW I THINK WE JUST LIKE TO SEE A DECISION ON WHERE WE'RE GOING AND I TAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WITHOUT THE USER FEES AND THE MURPH REVENUES IT'S BEST TO PUT IT BACK INTO THE JOB BASED ON GOING TO BE STANDARDS. I WOULD HAVE A GENERAL GOVERNMENT SERVICE PROVIDED BACK IN THE GENERAL THING CARD THAT GOT TO THESE STANDARDS RIGHT SO YEAH AD VALOREM TAXES SHOULD NOT BE FUNDING AN ENTERPRISE FUND. YEAH.

OKAY ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THAT GO FOR THANK YOU. AND LAST THING JUST TO HIGHLIGHT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CHANGING SERVICE. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW THIS IS JUST WHERE IT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS JUST IN TERMS OF FUNDING.

SO THANK YOU AND THIS WILL KIND OF A FOLLOW UP SLIDE ABOUT MILLAGE.

WE'LL SHOW UP HERE SHORTLY BUT THAT WE'LL ALSO BE BRINGING THE ASSOCIATED BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. SO ANOTHER TOPIC WAS FUND BALANCE ORDINANCES AND HOW IT RELATES TO OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE. THESE ARE THE TWO ORDINANCES THAT WERE PASSED ONE IN 2014 AND ONE IN 2018 THAT ESTABLISHED OUR RESERVE FOR UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE. SO IN 2014 WE COUNSEL ESTABLISH THAT WE WILL KEEP A TOTAL 30% OF GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES IN FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY SPLIT THAT TO A TO HAVE 17% DEDICATED TOWARDS EMERGENCY HURRICANES DISASTERS YOU KNOW SO FORTH SO THIS IS A QUICK OVERVIEW THE THE SECOND ORDINANCE WAS A SET OF FINANCIAL POLICIES THAT INCLUDED EVERYTHING FROM OPERATING BUDGET TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET AND ADDED THE FUND RESERVES AND THE DIFFERENTIATION OF THE 17% AND THE 30. SO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS BACK OUT THERE SO THAT YOU GUYS REVIEW WHERE THOSE NUMBERS CAME FROM AND I MIGHT JUST ADD NOT TO INTERRUPT BUT WE JUST GOT A RATING FROM MOODY'S AND S&P AND WE WERE GRADED ON HOW WELL WE DID ON FUND BALANCE AND WE GOT WE A RATING SO YEAH SO SO WE'RE TOOTING THE HORN A LITTLE BIT FOR PINKY SO I KNOW THAT I COULD EXEMPT ALL BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A REQUEST BECAUSE AS MOODY'S POINTED OUT WE HAVE A VERY HEALTHY FUND BALANCE PROBABLY TOO HEALTHY. I WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS THAT I MIGHT GET OUR BOND ISSUANCE. I AGREE WITH THAT 100% BUT I WOULD PLAN FOR THAT.

DON'T WORRY. I THINK I TOLD MIKE AFTER THE CALL I WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS THEY WEREN'T GOING TO GIVE US ANY OUR BOND ISSUANCE BECAUSE WE HAD TOO MUCH FUN BALANCE BUT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON ADDRESSING SOME OF THAT IN THE UPCOMING YEAR.

THERE WAS ALSO A REQUEST TO REVIEW OUR CURRENT MILLAGE ALLOCATION THIS WHAT WAS PASSED WITH THE BUDGET ORDINANCE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 SO YOU CAN SEE COUNTY OPERATIONS IS AT 42.3 DEBT SERVICE IS AT POINT TWO PAGES OF REAL PROPERTY. THEY HAVE A DEBT SERVICE AND THAT MILLAGE IS 3.0. CITY FUND IS 3.2 ALSO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOT TO 1.3 BASED ON THE LOAN AND SURE HENKE HAS ALREADY COVERED THAT ON VARIOUS OCCASIONS.

SOLID WASTE HAS 3.2 FUNDING IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND WHICH AGAIN IF COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH WE WILL BRING BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND SO IT WILL ADD TO COUNTY OPERATIONS AT THE TOP INDIGENT CARE FOR JASPER HAMPTON I ALWAYS GET THAT ONE THAT COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH SERVICES I GOT THE REST OF IT AS POINT FOUR AND BMI WENT UP 2.6 AND 25 BASED ON THE PART OF THAT BOND ISSUANCE THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. SAME WITH HIGHER EDUCATION.

IT WAS 2.2 BUT DCL WILL BE GETTING AN ADDITIONAL ONE MILLS TO ADDRESS THEIR DEBT SERVICE IN THE 2025 BOND ISSUANCE. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CURRENT MILLAGE? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT YOU SAID IT INCREASED FROM INCREASED TO 1.3 WHAT WAS A BEFORE. I THINK IT WAS 0.3 RIGHT WHEN THEY WENT UP OH POINT YEAH THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME BEFORE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL EARLY LAST YEAR AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS AS OPPOSED THE IDEA WAS AND IS THAT THE CORPORATION WE PREVIOUSLY IF THEY WANTED TO BUY PROPERTY WE WOULD BUY THE PROPERTY OUT OF GENERAL FUND OR

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NUMBER TWO IF THEY WERE EVER TO DEFAULT WE WOULD HAVE FIRST RATE OF REFUSAL AND NUMBER THREE IF THEY WERE EVER TO DISSOLVE FOR ANY REASON WHETHER THAT IS ON THEIR OWN OR WE WERE TO STOP FUNDING THEM AND THEY WENT AWAY PROPERTY REVERTS BACK TO US.

IT'S JUST TO ALLOW THAT GROUP TO ACT MORE THAN SOMETIMES IT TAKES LONGER FOR A COUNTY THAT WAS THE PRINCIPLE BEHIND IT. THERE WAS A RESOLUTION PASSED BY COUNCIL BEFORE THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THEN IT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE BUDGET ON ANOTHER QUESTION SAID LOW DID YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT LOAN? YEAH. AT THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN TO THEM WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT THE CREDIT FACILITY THAT THEY'RE TO SECURE WHICH HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED YET BECAUSE WE HAVE TO APPROVE LANGUAGE WHICH I WILL BRING FORWARD TO COUNCIL WHEN THAT IS FINALIZED TO PROTECT THE COUNTY WE'RE WORKING WITH LEGAL ON THAT THAT WOULD SET UP THE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THEM WHICH JUST SO YOU KNOW ALSO YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PLAN MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OUT AND IT ALWAYS IN THE AGREEMENT WOULD SAY SUBJECT TO NON APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS SO YOU'RE NOT BINDING OVER FUTURE BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL PASSED I BELIEVE UNANIMOUSLY BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT AND IT WAS TO OFFER THIS MILL SO THAT THEY COULD BUY PROPERTY BUT WE HAVE ALL THE ALL THE PROTECTIONS THAT IF SOMETHING WOULD EVER HAPPEN WE ARE WE WOULD THAT PROPERTY AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE WHAT THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT AT MEETINGS WOULD BE FOR EXAMPLE LIKE THE CHILTON TRACK OR THE GEISMAR IN BEFORE BEFORE AREA OR OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE DISCUSSION.

NOW ANY OTHER QUESTIONS NOW THE QUESTION THE MILLAGE THAT YOU SEE THERE THAT TRANSLATES ITS INTO YOUR OWN PERSONAL BILL THAT YOU RECEIVE FROM THE COUNTY WHEN YOU GET THAT BILL FROM THE COUNTY IT DOESN'T SHOW WHAT'S ON THERE BECAUSE THE OFFICE THAT DEVELOPS THOSE IS CHOSEN NOT TO DO THAT I THINK THAT WE THIS COUNCIL SHOULD BE ABLE TO DIRECT THAT IN THE AGE OF TRANSPARENCY THAT THE TAXPAYER SHOULD KNOW EVERY THING THAT'S ON THERE THAT'S ON THEIR TAX BILL AND IT'S RIGHT NOW. YES, SIR.

THAT'S AN ISSUE BETWEEN AUDITOR AND THE TREASURER AND THE AUDITOR IS ASKED THE COUNTY'S ASSISTANCE IN TRYING TO RESOLVE THAT THE AUDITOR IS FOR ITEMIZED IN THE BILL AND BLUE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT ISSUE RIGHT NOW GREAT OH THAT'S GOOD NEWS . I'M GLAD HE WAS HERE HERE WHEN HE WAS HERE WHILE AND OTHER COUNTIES DO IT. YES. YES THEY DO.

OKAY. IT'S STATUTORY. YEAH.

I WOULD JUST SAY THIS IS JUST FOR UNINCORPORATED TAXPAYER BUT NOT INSIDE THE MUNICIPALITY, RIGHT? YEAH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR AREN'T WELL THIS IS KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT HANK HAD EARLIER FOR THE FINANCE ACTION ITEMS. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE WE WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. I MENTIONED FUND BALANCE OPTION CURRENTLY AND PREPARING THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 WE'RE REQUESTING TO UTILIZE $15 MILLION FROM FUND BALANCE TO ADDRESS ONGOING NEEDS IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED DURING THE SIP PROCESS SO THAT PLUS THE MILLAGE FOR CAPITAL I THINK WILL GET US TO ABOUT A $26 MILLION CAPITAL BUDGET GOING INTO FISCAL YEAR 26 IS THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT YOU'RE TO THERE THE NEW CAPITAL MANAGEMENT WORDS OR THE WORDS THAT IS THE OLD WORDS BUT IN THE BRINGING IT FORWARD WE CAN DEFINE IT FURTHER FOR YOU WITH THE NEW TERMINOLOGY I WOULD APPRECIATE AND THAT STILL GIVES US ENOUGH MONEY IF THE HURRICANE DON'T WELL STILL BE IN EXCESS OF THE 30% SO THIS IS THIS IS NOT YEAH STILL HAVE PLENTY OF HELP FROM BALANCE RESERVE DURING MATTHEW JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY WE HAD TO PAY UP FRONT FOR CLEANING UP EVERYTHING MATTHEW EVEN THOUGH WE GOT REIMBURSED IT TOOK A YEAR OR LONGER AND THAT 30% KEPT US SOLVENT SO WE CAN CLEAN UP AFTER MATTHEW OKAY GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT.

YES, MA'AM. OH, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THEN.

NOW BACK TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IF IT WENT FROM POINT THREE TO .1.3 APPROX MAYBE HOW MUCH MONEY IS UP BECAUSE I KNOW TAX BILL YEAH IT JUST FOR EXAMPLE IT'S A LITTLE $42.50 FOR OIL ON CRITICAL LAND SO IN ROUNDING NUMBERS THE VALUE OF A MILL LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE 2.7 MILLION 2.7 SO IT'S ONE MILL FOR ONE MILL SO PROBABLY CLOSE TO THE 3 MILLION I DON'T HAVE A CALCULATOR AND I WAS AROUND THREE BUT BUT WE WILL MAKE ESTIMATES WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE GET YOU THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT 3 MILLION BUT THE POINT

[02:30:02]

WHAT COUNTS AGAINST THE FOUR RIGHT? YEAH THERE ARE QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL BRING THOSE THINGS BACK TO YOU.

REMIND ME HOW MUCH IS IN THE FUND BALANCE. WASN'T IT AROUND SEVEN? WE'RE ABOUT 84 ROUGHLY RIGHT NOW AND THE HOW MUCH IS WHAT WE NEED WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN 30% OF THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEARS EXPENDITURE SO I CAN GET THOSE EXACT NUMBERS FOR THE MONEY. IT'S A LOT YEAH WE'RE A LOT OVER LOT.

WELL SAID MR. GLOVER YES AND SO THE NEXT COUPLE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES WE'RE NOT GOING TO GLOSS OVER THEM. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO BRING BACK TO YOU SO WE WON'T NEED TO GO TOO FAR DOWN BUT WE THINK THAT THEY'RE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE IN THE COMING MONTHS IN YEAR. ONE OF THEM LET ME JUST YES, MA'AM. SO I'M SORRY EVERYBODY GETS AROUND, RIGHT? YES SO THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP US ON TIME AND GET THROUGH THESE NEXT TWO SO THAT WE CAN HAVE TIME FOR EVERYBODY TO GO AROUND THE ROOM TALK ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL INITIATIVES YOU'D LIKE TO SEE. BUT THE COUNCIL CONSENSUS WHETHER OR NOT THAT COMES BACK RIGHT BECAUSE WE CAN'T WE JUST WE CAN'T IT'S TOUGH TO TRACE 11 INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS BUT THAT WOULD BE FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO TO HAVE

[7.d. Other Discussion Items]

WE KNOW THAT THERE IS THERE ARE THIS MANY PROJECTS AND THERE'S THIS MUCH MONEY THAT ON THE 2000 THAT ARE ON THE 2018 REFERENDUM WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO OUR STAFF TIE THIS BOW UP AND AS TO HAVING IT BE JARED'S LIST OR MIKE'S LIST OR ALYSSA'S LIST WE WOULD ESTABLISH THIS GROUP AT YOUR AT YOUR DISCRETION SO THAT THIS BECOMES A CITIZEN ADVISORY GROUP THAT ESTABLISHES THESE PRIORITIES. SO IT'S FROM THE CITIZENS AND NOT FROM US BECAUSE THAT CREATES AN AIR OF WAIT, WHY DID THIS GET FUNDED? WHY DID THIS NOT GET FUNDED? IT'S A CONSENT, IT'S A CONSENSUS. SO THE GROUP THAT THEN COMES TO YOU GUYS POTENTIALLY IT ALSO WORKS ON IF YOU SHOULD EVER TO DO FUTURE REFERENDA BECAUSE THIS GROUP THEN CREDIBILITY WE'VE DONE THINGS WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THAT'S WE'LL GO NEXT. BUT IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO BRING BACK FOR THE FORMATION OR AT LEAST THE DISCUSSION OF THIS FORMATION SO THAT WE CAN AND I THINK THE IMPORTANT PROJECT THEY WOULD IS THE 2018 REFERENDUM. AND HOW DO WE HOW DO WE GET THAT OVER THE FINISH LINE AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE DECISIONS ON WHAT PROJECT GETS FUNDED AND WHAT DOESN'T BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

YEAH PERFECT. YEAH AND THEY WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL THIS IS HOW WE WOULD LOOK AT THE GOVERNMENT ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT.

I THINK THAT VARIES ON THE CITIZEN. YES.

YES AND WE HAVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS EXAMPLE TO LOOK AT TOO THEY DID A JOB WITH THEIR REFERENDUM RIGHT AND AND SO IF THIS GROUP DOES A GOOD JOB AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE CITIZENS HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THIS GROUP IT COULD ROLL INTO POTENTIAL THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IN IN THE FUTURE. WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THOSE BIG TICKET CAPITAL, NEW TERMINOLOGY ,NEW BUILDINGS, NEW NEEDS AND ALL THOSE THINGS. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WOULD COME FORTH ON A CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX THAT'S NOT TO BE DECIDED TODAY . THAT'S JUST THINGS THAT THIS GROUP CAN DO THINGS THAT IN THE COMING MONTHS THIS COUNCIL WILL NEED TO CONSIDER BECAUSE THERE ARE STATUTORY TIME LIMITS THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW ON PUTTING A REFERENDUM FOR THE BEFORE THE CITIZENRY BUT THERE ARE ALSO BEST PRACTICES COULD HAVE LONGER TIMELINES FOR A BETTER CHANCE OF SUCCESS SO THAT WE DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE. BUT A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH PROVING OURSELVES IN THE PRESENT CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE MAXIMUM YEARS EIGHT EIGHT YEARS BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD BRING BACK IN A WORKSHOP TO GO THROUGH JUST LIKE WE DID AN ENTERPRISE ONE ON ONE THAT YOU JUST DID. WE WOULD COME IN AND DO REFERENDUM 101 THIS IS WHAT THIS ONE IS JARED AS YOU KNOW POOR GUY HAS READ STATUTES INSIDE AND OUTSIDE UPSIDE DOWN AND SO WE WOULD COME BACK WITH ALL THAT INFORMATION AND THEN SAY WHAT ARE WE WANT TO DO? AND I THINK THE IMPORTANT DECISION IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO 2026 IN A REVERSE TIME? OKAY. YES, RIGHT. THAT'S EXACTLY.

[02:35:04]

LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION, MADAM CHAIR, IF I COULD YOU I AGREE WITH THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THAT'S A MUST. THE MORE INVOLVEMENT YOU HAVE THE CITIZENS I'M ASSUMING THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A AN ADVISORY GROUP YOU TALK ABOUT A CENTRALIZE THE WHOLE ENTIRE COUNTY. YES, SIR.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT IN THIS WORKSHOP. ESTABLISHING THE GROUP IS YOU GUYS WOULD DECIDE HOW WE FORM THIS HOW MUCH HOW MUCH WILL THE WHO THE REPRESENTATIVES WHERE THEY'RE FROM. YEAH. HOW MANY IN THE CAPITAL SALES TAX THERE'S A FORMULA THAT REPRESENTATION RIGHT. YEAH IN.

TERMS OF MUNICIPALITIES BEING REPRESENTED AND THEN THE REST OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN COUNTIES THAT HAVE PASSED A COUPLE OF CAPITAL SALES TAX AND THAT BUY IN FROM THE MUNICIPALITIES IS VITAL YOU KNOW HOW MUCH OF HOW MUCH WORK WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH SORT OF DECENTRALIZING THAT ADVISORY GROUP AS WELL BECAUSE WE'VE GOT VARIOUS COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW MY COMMUNITY IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT IN TERMS COMMUNITY AND HAVE NEEDS AND SO IF GOT MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THAT WHOLE ENTIRE PROCESS VERSUS THAT ELITE GROUP RIGHT YOU KNOW I THINK WE CAN GET MORE BUY INTO THIS WHOLE AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL ON THE BACK I'M GOING THE CITIZENS ADVISORY GROUP IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE 2018 REFERENDUM PROJECTS YOU GO TO THE SLIDE OF CAPITAL IT IS A SPECIFIC GROUP WHICH IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM THIS ONE NEED TWO GROUPS STARTING RIGHT NOW IT IS ALREADY 2025.

2026 IS A YEAR EXACTLY. SO THIS WOULD BE A WORKSHOP THAT WOULD COME BACK FAIRLY QUICKLY. THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE TOP THREE.

SO YOUR POINT THAT THE ADVISORY GROUP FOR THE CAPITAL TAKES INPUT AND THEN THE WAY WE DID IT PREVIOUSLY WHERE I WAS BEFORE AS THEY PRESENTED THEIR LIST OF PROJECTS TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN THE COUNCIL VOTED ON THAT LIST OF PROJECTS BUT THAT SAYS ADVISORY GROUP DID A LOT OF THAT. THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY SUPPORTED BY STAFF IN TERMS WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OUT THERE BUT THERE WAS ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE BOARD SO IT MIGHT BE THAT SOME FROM THE 2018 ADVISORY GROUP MIGHT MIGRATE TO THIS OTHER ONE OR THAT MIGHT BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT RIGHT. AND SO AND THE WAY THAT THAT WORKS IN THE CAPITAL IS NOT TO GET TOO DEEP DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE BECAUSE WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT BUT WE NEED TO GIVE THE MUNICIPAL AND US TIME TO FULLY FLESH OUT PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD PRESENT TO THAT GROUP BECAUSE WHAT TURNS INTO IS THAT GROUP WHETHER IT'S ONE OR TWO GROUPS THAT'S UP TO BE DETERMINED PEOPLE TO BRING THE PICTURES AND THE PLANS AND THEY PRESENT TO THIS GROUP NOT A CONCEPT IN A THOUGHT BUT A PLAN THAT IS ACTIONABLE, THAT'S REAL, THAT HAS PICTURES THAT WE CAN SELL, THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THE BENEFIT OF BEING IN. OKAY.

YEAH. NEXT COUNTY PROPERTIES. SO THIS WAS PUT ON THE LIST I THOUGHT OH THAT'LL BE BE EASY I JUST GO GET A LIST OF THEM. THERE ARE A BUNCH OF LISTS OKAY MIKE HAS A BOOK LIST LIKE THIS BIG THERE ARE SPREADSHEETS UPON SPREADSHEETS I WOULD JUST WANT TO PROPOSE THE STAFF BRINGS BACK TO YOU GUYS A TRUE VETTED LIST OF USABLE VACANT LAND POTENTIALLY BUILDINGS. I JUST DON'T SEE TOO MANY THAT ARE EMPTY FOR REUSE BUT REALLY THAT USABLE VACANT LAND BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK ON OUR PROPERTY LISTS THERE ARE IT'S NOT A MILLION BUT IT'S A LOT TWO THERE ARE HUNDREDS BUT A LOT OF THOSE ARE LITTLE PIECES RIGHTS OF WAY AT AN INTERSECTION SO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH AND TAKE OUT WE NEED TO BRING BACK TO YOU USABLE AND SO REUSABLE AND THEN EXCESS TO BE DISPOSED OF FOR FOR REUSE OF FUNDS. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE BRINGING BACK TO YOU GUYS IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT. AND ALSO WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY APPROACHES ABOUT DO YOU HAVE ANY BECAUSE THAT'S OUR BIGGEST EXPENSE I'M I'M SPEAKING WITH THEM TOMORROW WE DON'T HAVE THAT LIST BUT IT WOULD BE TO START PROCESS AND EVEN THE CITY OF YOU'VE HEARD OF IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT HOMELESS SHELTERS AND OTHER FACILITIES IN THE AREA THAT MAYBE WE CAN A LAND GRANT TO THEM TO HELP GET THINGS STARTED RIGHT SO WE WILL BRING ALL THOSE BACK AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS WE CAN BRING BACK WHAT CAN BE USED FOR WHAT WHAT WE THINK WE CAN USE AND THEN WHAT WE THINK OTHER PEOPLE COULD USE OR SO OKAY

[7.d. Establish Upcoming Year’s Priority Goals]

FOR EXAMPLE WE TALKED ABOUT THE CODE A LOT WE TALKED ABOUT A PAY POLICY FOR A STEP HYBRID

[02:40:01]

WHAT THAT STUDY TRANSPORTATION REALLY HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THAT CITIZEN GROUP BECAUSE . THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HANDLE THE 2018 AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT DOES IN THE FUTURE AND THEN THE PROPERTY LIST THERE THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS JOTTED DOWN THAT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO AFTER THIS MEETING IS TAKE THIS LIST OF PRIORITIES THAT YOU'RE HAVING US CHARGED WITH BRINGING BACK TO YOU BRING IT FORWARD IN COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL. I'M NOT SURE IF IT NEEDS TO GO TO COMMITTEE OR JUST STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL BUT EITHER WAY WE DO IT PROPERLY SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THIS AS WHAT OUR TASKS ARE GOING FORWARD SO WE HAVE MEASURABLE SUCCESS POINTS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO GOING FORWARD.

[8. CLOSING COMMENTS AND NEXT STEPS]

YES. SO THAT'S WHY I JUST TALKED ABOUT OTHER OTHER STRUCK THE WORD STAFF. BUT THE REASON I PUT THAT IT'S PRIORITIES FOR US BUT LET'S GO AROUND THE ROOM AND THAT'S UP TO YOU MADAM TO SAY WHERE WE GET FROM GOOD.

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANYBODY FEEL BAD ABOUT THIS BUT IT'S TOO BAD IF YOU DO.

WE HAD A MEETING LAST YEAR IN FEBRUARY WHEN WE LISTED A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO GET SOME PAID TO AND I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THOSE RETIREE HEALTH BENEFITS OF COURSE WAS RIGHT ON THE TOP LIST NEEDED A USER FRIENDLY WEBSITE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THAT YET. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH THE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND MAIN LINE NOT BEING ANSWERED AND THE GREETING WAS MET BY PEOPLE COMING IN THROUGH THE MAIN LOBBY. WE ASKED FOR A REVIEW OF TOWN OWNED LAND IN FEBRUARY OF 24 AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE IT. ASKED FOR A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF ALL COUNTY ORDINANCES I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT FEDERAL FUNDS COULD BE USED TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING THE PERENNIAL ASK FOR A SPLASH PAD I THINK THAT'S KIND OF JUST GONE AWAY BUT WE DID ASK FOR A STUDY ON IT SO WE WANTED TO FIND OUT IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING FOR SENIORS UH, BECAUSE WE FELT THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FOCUSED AS AS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND WE WERE WONDERING IF THAT BE BROKEN OUT FROM UNDER PARKS AND REC. WE WANTED TO TALK FUNDING AND POTENTIAL PARTNERS FOR A HOMELESS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE BROADCASTING SITUATION WITH AUDIO ISSUES DURING OUR MEETINGS WE ASKED FOR THE FIRST KEY FERRY PROBLEM TO BE RESOLVED. WE ASKED WHERE THE SAINT HELENA REC FACILITIES WE ASKED FOR THE PIERS AND PINCKNEY AND MELROSE TO BE REPAIRED.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF A WILDLIFE REFUGE AND WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT CHANGING THE COUNCIL AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO START AT 6:00. WELL, BRAVO WE DID OURS.

WE DIDN'T BUT ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS BROUGHT UP AND NOW A YEAR HAS GONE BY AND THEY WEREN'T MENTIONED TODAY FOR THE MOST PART AND THEY'RE STILL PENDING.

WELL I JUST THOUGHT I'D BRING THEM UP AGAIN AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME ACTION ON THOSE ITEMS. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK I'M HAVING A HECK OF A LOT OF WORK. YEAH, WHY NOT? YEAH, AND AND I JUST DID ABOUT I MEAN GOING THROUGH MY LIST HERE, YOU KNOW, OF THE PRIORITIES FOR ME IS ESPECIALLY AFTER TALKING TO A LOT OF STAFF IS THAT RETIREMENT BATHROOMS I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BUT I I FEEL LIKE THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED IN PARTICULAR MY DISTRICT AND I WOULD LIKE TO TO SEE BEHIND YOU AS A PARK GET A STATUS UPDATE AND HOPEFULLY I THINK IT'S FUN TO THIS YEAR I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET IT BUILT THIS YEAR AND OPEN AND OBVIOUSLY BOAT RAMPS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY I THINK ARE IMPORTANT FOR ME I MEAN THAT'S PRIORITY AND THEN ALSO COMMUNITY CENTERS ESPECIALLY FIRST FOR SAINT HELENA LADIES ISLAND AND I KNOW THERE'S WORK DONE IN GERALD'S DISTRICT DISTRICT AS WELL AND THOSE COMMUNITY CENTERS I THINK THEY NEED A LOT OF ATTENTION. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF MY PRIORITIES.

OKAY. SO I LIKE A LOT OF WHAT WE ALREADY BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE AND IS NOW BROUGHT AT THE LOCAL IS CONSOLIDATION OF FIRE DISTRICTS THAT IS AN INTEREST FOR CITY, FOR PORT ROYAL, FOR HILTON HEAD AND BLUFFTON.

SO I'D LIKE TO THROW THAT IN THERE AND REALLY JUST GETTING SOMETHING ON THE DEFENSIVELY FERRY GETTING IT TAKEN CARE OF OTHERWISE WE HAVE ALL OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND PINKY I'M SURE WILL COME UP WITH POSSIBLE USE OF THE FUND BALANCE WITH DEDICATED MILLAGE

[02:45:02]

WELL WRITTEN DOWN. AMAZING. IT'S REALLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW I SAW THE LIST ORDINANCE I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE AND A LIST OF THE VACANT LANDS BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUNCILMEMBER CUNNINGHAM WAS NOT HERE TODAY BUT HE LIKES SOME BALLPARK IN HIS DISTRICT SO AND THE ROSCOE ISLAND FERRY TOO I, I THINK WE NEED TO GET THAT FIXED.

LET'S GO TO MARK BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO FORGET OH YEAH THAT'S JUST BEEN DISTRICT NINE BART MR. LAWSON, LET ME TELL YOU AND IN OBVIOUSLY IN DISTRICT IT'S A VERY DIVERSE DISTRICT BUT THE FESTIVAL OF VERY THE ISSUES THERE OUR MOST IMPORTANT AT LEAST TO ME RIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO BOTH MARKETS THE FERRY ITSELF BUT AND THIS BROWN MENTIONED IT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT MR. CUNNINGHAM ALWAYS MENTIONS IN HIS BALLPARKS AND PLACES FOR KIDS TO GO EVEN THOUGH I HEAR ALL THE TIME FROM PEOPLE OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY THAT BLUFFTON GETS EVERY THREE WEEKS WE NEED MORE BECAUSE. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH AND THAT ALL IS NOT ONLY IN MY DISTRICT BUT ALSO INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, POLES AND MILLIONS AND AND JOES AND TABS AS WELL. THAT'S ALL PART AS WELL THAT WE HAVE THERE.

BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE PRIORITIES WE TOUCHED ON EARLIER THE CAPITAL THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ESPECIALLY COMING UP WITH ALL OUR BUILDINGS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IS TRANSPORTATION. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE WE HAVE KIND OF SIDESTEPPED THAT NOW THINKING AND HOPING THAT THE TRANSPORTATION SALES IS GOING TO PASS.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THAT ARE COMING UP HERE THAT ARE I HATE TO SAY MORE IMPORTANT BUT THEY ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN SOME OF THESE IDEAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'VE GOT A BRIDGE TO BUILD. WE'VE GOT ONE YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT. YOU'VE GOT A LADIES ISLAND AS WELL THAT THAT NEEDS FUNDS SO AGAIN TRANSPORTATION IS STILL A HUGE THING FOR US AND BECAUSE WE DID NOT ASK THAT $0.01 TRANSPORTATION TAX THAT LEAVES A HUGE VOID FOR ALL THE ■BRIDGES ON HILTON HEAD WHICH ARE HUNDREDS OF MILLION DOLLARS OF OF OVER BUDGET BUT OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY AS WELL.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, JOE.

I'VE BEEN HARPING ON THIS A LONG TIME. WE DO HAVE BROADCASTING PROBLEMS THEY THEY ARE NOT UNIQUE TO US. THEY'RE CONSISTENT WE HAVE TO SOLVE THOSE BECAUSE IN IN OUR IDEA OF BEING AS TRANSPARENT WITH OUR TAXPAYERS IF THEY CANNOT SEE US IF THEY CANNOT HEAR US THA A REAL PROBLEM.

EVIDENCE YESTERDAY THROUGH NO FAULT OF OUR OWN THE WEBSITE WENT DOWN OKAY SO PEOPLE COULDN'T GET TO US. WE HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM. WE'RE ON VOICE OVER IP OUR PHONES WENT DOWN AS WELL. WE NEED A SYSTEM IF. THIS BUILDING GOES DARK.

WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SO WE MAY HAVE TO PUT IN A LANDLINE SO THAT'S ONE THING I'M THE DETENTION CENTER BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR OVER A YEAR BY GOING TO A REGIONAL DETENTION CENTER OUR STATE DELEGATION HAS SAID THIS IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY WHEREBY WE THE DELEGATION CAN GET YOU MONEY. THAT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

YORK I DON'T WANT TO BE REDUNDANT SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT ANYTHING THAT BEEN SAID THAT I AGREE WITH AND I AGREE WITH A LOT. I DO HAVE A DISTRICT THAT I DO REPRESENT IN THAT ZONE SING HELENA SO I NEED TO EMPHASIZE RECREATION THERE ETC. ETC.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. I HAVE A YOUNG FAMILY, A YOUNG MAN WITH HIS FAMILY AND HE WANTED TO PLAY SOCCER IN PRACTICE HIS KIDS AND HE SAID THERE IS NO SOCCER FIELD, DON'T SING HOW OLD DO YOU THINK WE HAVE COME WITH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO USE LIKE SOME OF THEIR FACILITIES HOPING THAT IT COULD BE OPENED UP TO SOME OF THOSE FIELDS TO THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THAT SO IN IN SO I'M NOT GOING TO HOP ON RECREATION BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I STARTED TALKING ABOUT IN DAY ONE AND THIS EIGHT YEARS AGO RECREATIONAL SEA HOLDER WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE GOT THE STUDY DONE AND WE JUST TO START LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING IT WITH COURT BUT I WOULD.

IN HOUSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I DO SUPPORT THAT

[02:50:04]

SO I'LL LEAVE THAT RIGHT THERE . THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT DID NOT PASS IS CRUCIAL AND THERE ARE ONLY TWO WAYS OUT OF BEAUFORT THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HILTON HEAD. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SHELDON, I'M TALKING ABOUT BEAUFORT.

YOU EITHER GOING TO GO SOUTH ON ALL 70 OR YOU'RE GOING TO GO NORTH ON HIGHWAY 21.

WE GOT TO KEEP THAT OPEN IN. ONE OF THE FEAR I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THAT ON HIGHWAY 170 SOUTH WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING THERE, MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC LIGHT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE STOP IT AND WHEN YOU PUT TRAFFIC LIGHT IN IT'S GOING TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC . I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY TALK ABOUT HOW A 170 AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT AND I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT MORATORIUM NOW BUT IF THAT'S NECESSARY TILL GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE HOW WE HANDLE WE 174 TRAFFIC I THINK WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT IT SO I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT RIGHT THERE YOUR THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN MR. LAW AND STAFF THANK YOU VERY FOR A GREAT FEW HOURS EACH YEAR THAT WE'RE HERE SECOND YEAR WE LEARN MORE AND MORE AND APPRECIATE MY I SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUES RIGHT HERE WITH THEIR TALKING ABOUT I WILL SAY WE MADE A GREAT EFFORT TO STAY CLOSE OUR RESIDENTS I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY THINGS WE'RE DOING BETTER IS THIS CHAT WITH COUNCIL TO LEARN MORE WHAT WE CAN DO IS CRITICAL UM YOU KNOW I THINK I HAD IT RIGHT ON MY NOTES YOUR FOCUS ON 2018 DELIVERABLES I THINK IF WE CAN CHECK THOSE BOXES AND COME BACK WITH PROJECTS THAT ARE COMPLETE THAT'S MORE CREDIBILITY.

SO VERY GOOD. SOME OF THE GOOD THINGS WITH MR. MOORE'S DIRECTION IN OUR INVOLVEMENT WE MADE SOME GREAT STRIDES AND BIG POINTS ON STORMWATER FOR YEARS I'VE BEEN VISITING HERE SINCE 1990 AND ALL I HEARD WAS HOW CRITICAL IT IS GET STORMWATER AND DRAINAGE TAKEN CARE OF . WE NOW HAVE A MAJOR FOCUS ON THAT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. YOU BROUGHT IT UP. HE TALKED ABOUT A MORATORIUM I THINK NOT ONLY IN HILTON HEAD BUT ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTY. WE HAVE A LOT OF UNUSED BUILDINGS. I THINK JUST COMMERCIALLY ALONE WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER CAREFULLY PUTTING A MORATORIUM ON THAT COMMERCIAL SIDE OF IT AND REALLY FOCUSING ON MAINTAINING WHAT WE LOVE, PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE PRISTINE PROPERTY AND USE THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE ON GREEN SPACE OR PROTECTING PROPERTY.

I LOOK AT THE MITCHELL BILL 26. I LOOK COVE 71 SHELTER COVE AND I LOOKED MOST RECENTLY AT THE JONES BILL PIECE THIS COUNCIL THIS STAFF IS GOING TO GO DOWN IS ONE OF THE MOST PROTECTIVE OUR PROPERTIES I THINK EVER OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS WHAT WE CAN DO I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLE I THINK THE COOPERATION WE HAVE EXHIBITED WITH THE SAINT JAMES MR. FORD AND WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THAT THE ST JAMES BAPTIST CHURCH MOVE I THINK IS JUST INCREDIBLE. THAT'S BEEN IN THE HOPPER HOW MANY YEARS AND JUST TO DO A LITTLE MORE I WANT TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK ON MY BOARD ASSIGNMENTS WITH THE AIRPORT AND THE BREEZE. I THINK THEY HAVE A LOT I MEAN THE BREEZE ITSELF THINK CAN HELP US A LOT WITH SOME TRANSPORTATION. BUT AGAIN I ENJOYED THIS YEAR I

[02:55:02]

THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A FEW COMMENTS ON AGAIN TO THANK EVERYONE ON STAFF. I LOOK BACK AT WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN 2017 AS CLEANING SOME STUFF AND A LOT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED WHEN YOU GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THAT LONG PERIOD OF TIME. I I APPRECIATE WHAT LARRY HIS LIST FROM FEBRUARY 2024 ALTHOUGH I DO THINK WE'VE MADE PROGRESS WAS THE SENIORS WHEN WE TOOK OVER THE CONTRACT FOR MEALS ON WHEELS WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE SENIORS INVOLVED IN OUR RECREATION THROUGH THAT.

BUT I AGREE WITH HIS LIST AND MY ONE OF MY PRIORITIES IS TO GET THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE STARTED AND START WORKING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WITH OUR REVERSE CALENDAR FOR THE NEXT REFERENDUM WE GET THROUGH MARCH, WE GET THROUGH THE BRIDGE DECISIONS APRIL THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH OUR CITIZENS COMMITTEE AND CAPITAL FOR AND OR TRANSPORTATION WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO DO. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR TIME. I COUNCIL CAN ADJOURN TO THE BACK FOR OFFICE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. OH OKAY. SO THE ACR THERE'S REFRESHMENTS AND I LUNCH YEAH HUH YEAH AND SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH AGAIN SORRY MARK YOU COULDN'T BE WITH US IN PERSON BUT THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WE ARE ADJOURNED ADJOURNED

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