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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY AFTERNOON.
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING OF THE US 2, 2 78 COUNTY COUNCIL WORKSHOP TO ORDER.PLEASE RISE FOR THE, UM, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PUT UP TO OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FROM THIS MEETING WAS
[3. STATEMENT OF COMPLIANCE WITH FOIA]
ADVERTISED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, CORRECT MS. BROCK? YES, I HAVE.[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.WE HAVE A SECOND WITHOUT OBJECTION.
THE AGENDA IS APPROVED AT THIS
[5. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD]
TIME WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT.I'D LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT THAT EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK AND LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND OBSERVE THE FOLLOW PROTOCOL, ADDRESS THE CHAIRMAN, AND IN SPEAKING, AVOID DISRESPECT TO THE COUNCIL AND ANY PERSONALITIES CON, CONFINE THEMSELVES TO QUESTIONS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF COUNCIL.
AND BE MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL OF THOSE WHO ARE PRESENT AND OTHERS WHO MAY BE WATCHING ON TELEVISION.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT IS ATTENDING VIA ZOOM.
IS THAT CORRECT? THERE'S NO ONE ON ZOOM AT THIS MOMENT.
WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL PROBLEMS WITH SOME OF THE, UM, INTERNET AND, AND SOME OF THE, UM, IS IT TMOBILE? THAT'S DOWN.
JIM, MR. COUNCIL MEMBER? YEAH.
WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER IS THERE? IT'S MARK LAWSON.
THE FIRST PERSON TO SIGN UP IS, UH, MAYOR PERRY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
WELL, ALAN PERRY, I DIDN'T KNOW I SIGNED UP, BUT, UH, GREAT.
I WAS, I SAW PERRY AND I THOUGHT IT MUST BE HIM.
THE CONFUSION CONTINUES BECAUSE HIS FATHER WAS NAMED CHARLES PERRY
I'M NOT HIS FATHER
UM, I, I'VE LOOKED OVER, MY NAME IS CHARLES PERRY FOR THE RECORD AND I AM CHAIRMAN OF THE, UH, WEILL HARBOR TRAFFIC COMMITTEE.
UM, I'VE LOOKED OVER THE MATERIALS THAT WERE ONLINE AND SO FORTH WITH AS ATTACHMENTS TO THE AGENDA.
UH, AND IF I'M INTERPRETING THOSE CORRECTLY, WHICH I MAY NOT BE, UH, IT SEEMS THAT THERE HAS BEEN, UH, THE OPTIONS THAT HAVE, WERE PRESENTED BY DOT EACH RETAIN, UH, THE ACCESS ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 2 78 ACROSS FROM WINDMILL HARBOR.
UH, AND ALSO RETAIN, UH, THEREFORE THE WINDMILL HARBOR STOPLIGHT, UH, AS IT PRESENTLY EXISTS.
UH, AND IF THAT INTERPRETATION OF THOSE MATERIALS IS CORRECT, WE CERTAINLY ENDORSE THAT.
UH, AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY HOPE THAT, UH, COUNCIL, UH, AND DOT AND THE TOWN, UH, CAN COME TOGETHER, UH, AND, AND JOINTLY, UH, SPONSOR ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES.
ALRIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE FRANK BA BABEL.
DID I PRONOUNCE THE LAST NAME? I WOULD SAY BABEL.
I'M A BIKE ADVOCATE FROM HILTON HEAD, AND I HAVE WORKED IN THIS AREA BEFORE.
FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS I AM ASTOUNDED THAT THIS BRIDGE IS BEING CONSIDERED TO BE BUILT WITHOUT BIMODAL FACILITIES, ESPECIALLY FROM S-E-D-O-T, WITH ALL THE MULTIMODAL STUFF THAT'S BEING BUILT AROUND THE SOUTH CAROLINA, AND ESPECIALLY AROUND THE UNITED STATES.
THE THOUGHT OF THIS BEING BUILT WITHOUT BIMODAL FACILITIES FOR THE NEXT 20, 30, 40 YEARS IS TO ME A MINDBLOWER.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I HAVE TO SAY THAT EVERYTHING'S BEING BUILT, MUD MOTOR OF ALL PLACES.
THIS, APPARENTLY YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE OTHER.
THE SECOND IS, LET'S FACE IT, HILTON IS A CASH COW.
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WE NOW HAVE A, BIKING IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US TO GET PEOPLE IN.WE NOW HAVE 38 SHOPS THAT RENT BIKES.
THEY RENT 25,000 PLUS BIKES A YEAR, AND THERE ARE ABOUT 15,000, UH, PEOPLE WHO CONVEY THE MINIMUM OWN THEM.
THAT'S ABOUT 40,000 BIKES ON THE ISLAND.
AND WE HAVE THIS BRIDGE WITH NO WAY TO GET OFF SAFELY.
THE PEOPLE GO OFF, WE LOOK AT 'EM, WE SAID, OH MY GOD, THEY'RE COMMITTING SUICIDE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S SO, SO DANGEROUS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING TO HELP PEOPLE GET OFF.
AND ALSO BECAUSE OF E E-BIKES, COMMUTERS, IT'S CHANGED THE DYNAMICS THAT GET COMMUTERS AND OTHERS, UH, INTO OUR ISLAND AND OFF OUR ISLAND TO GO TOURING.
UH, HILTON NET ISLAND IS A GOLD LEVEL BIKE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE BEEN THAT FOR THREE AWARDS.
UH, GOING BACK, UH, EVERY FOUR YEARS WE HAVE BEEN ASKED AND, AND THERE ARE ONLY 34 IN THE UNITED STATES.
UH, VERY FEW, HALF A DOZEN OR SO IN THE EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER IS AN HONOR AND IT BRINGS PEOPLE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO BE A PLATINUM BIKE-FRIENDLY COMMUNITY.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT IT IS THE MAYOR SAYS WE SHOULD BE A PLATINUM BIKE-FRIENDLY COMMUNITY, AND BY DOING SO, WE HAVE TO DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT INVOLVE SAFETY, EDUCATION, SO AND SO FORTH.
IT'S A BIG DEAL TO BE, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY PLATINUM LEVEL BIKE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.
SO WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT A BRIDGE, WITHOUT FACILITIES.
I MEAN, WE, MAYBE WE'LL GO AGAIN, MAYBE THEY'LL TAKE US DOWN A, A NOTCH, BUT IT BRINGS A LOT OF PEOPLE TO OUR ISLAND.
THE LAST, UH, THING IS, UH, BIKE BC CONNECTS YOU FOLKS HAVE A MASTER PLAN FOR A BIKE.
I'VE WORKED ON IT FOR A COUPLE YEARS WITH A BUNCH OF REALLY SMART PEOPLE.
AND, UH, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THE, THIS IS PART OF THE PLAN.
THIS IS PART OF THE CON CONNECTIVITY.
SO WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL, SINCE ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE APPROVED THAT PLAN.
AND YOU AS COUNTY COUNCIL ALSO APPROVE THE PLAN AND SO DID LATS.
THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S ALL ABOUT SAFETY.
PEOPLE WILL BE KILLED IF WE DON'T PUT A DECENT BIKE PIT FACILITY ON IT.
AND WE'VE GIVEN RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, FELICE LAMARCA.
I LIVE IN SEA PINES AND, UM, I WISH WE WERE HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE I, WE SENT EVERYONE TO COLUMBIA TO GET ANSWERS TO A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ANSWERS YET.
UM, SO I'M SPEAKING PROBABLY A LITTLE PREMATURELY, SO I'LL BE BRIEF.
I AGREE WITH MR. BABEL THAT, UM, BIKE TRAILS AND BICYCLING IS INTEGRAL PART OF HILTON HEAD.
HOWEVER, SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR IT.
AND WE ARE HERE TODAY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
AND LET'S NOT LOSE FOCUS OF THAT.
IF WE WANT TO PAY FOR LIFESTYLE, UM, AND OTHER THINGS THAT MANY OF US WANT, THEN THE MANY OF US NEED TO FIND WAYS TO FUND IT AND THEN DO IT.
BUT AS FAR AS THE TAXPAYERS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY, GO FIX THE BRIDGE.
GIVE US TWO LANES THAT WE NEED THAT WORK.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO, OKAY.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I'D LIKE TO CALL, UM, MIKE MOORE
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FORD, AND JARED TOO.THEY WILL BE INTRODUCING OUR FRIENDS FROM SOUTH CAROLINA DOT THAT ARE HERE TODAY.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND COUNSEL.
UM, LAST WEEK ON THURSDAY, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH S-C-D-O-T.
AS WE HAD DISCUSSED WITH YOU DURING THE WORKSHOP.
WE'D LIKE TO THANK SECRETARY POWELL AND HIS STAFF FOR, FOR, UM, HOSTING US AS WELL AS PRESENTING, UM, UM, SOME OPTIONS.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TODAY IS, UM, IN YOUR, AS PART OF YOUR, UM, PACKAGE, YOU'VE GOT THE OPTIONS AS WELL AS THE LAST PAGE.
THERE'S SOME COST ESTIMATES AND WE'VE GOT MR. UM, CRAIG WYNN AND JOHN BOYLESTON HERE FROM DOT TO PRESENT.
I DUNNO IF WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO, TO, TO NOTE AT THIS TIME.
I JUST, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THIS IS HOT OFF THE PRESS, UH, NOTES FROM THAT THURSDAY MEETING.
UH, I JUST EMAILED THOSE TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND SEAN COLIN AND I WORKED ON THESE NOTES
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TOGETHER TO HOPEFULLY CAPTURE ALL OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE HAD.AND, UH, HE HAS LIKELY SHARED OR HE HAS ALSO SHARED THAT WITH TOWN COUNCIL.
SO JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING, EVERYONE HAS THE NOTES.
I'M GONNA PASS THIS OUT, UH, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE THAT ATTACHMENT AVAILABLE AS WELL.
BUT WITHOUT THAT, UM, THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE CRAIG AND JOHN, UM, TALK THROUGH THOSE OPTIONS.
THAT WAS THE MAIN POINT OF THE DISCUSSION ON THURSDAY.
THEY HAD DONE SOME WORK DOT HAD ON DIFFERENT COST COMPONENTS.
AND THEN AFTER THOSE OPTIONS ARE SHARED, THEN BE ABLE TO, UM, COME UP HERE AND ASK THEM TO ANSWER ROADWAY DESIGN QUESTIONS.
AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR US ON PROJECT RELATED QUESTIONS, MIKE AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
SO I'LL PASS THIS AND ALSO INVITE CRAIG.
WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, GOOD TO SEE YOU IN FIRST.
AND CRAIG, YES, THANK YOU GUYS.
WE USED TO SEE YOU A LOT,
UM, I'LL WAIT FOR JARED TO GET THOSE PASSED OUT.
WOULD YOU PREFER TO PRESENT AND THEN TAKE QUESTIONS FROM COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS? I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD JUST TO GET ALL OF IT OFF THERE.
'CAUSE IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TWO PAGES ARE GONNA KIND OF EXPLAIN EVERYTHING AND THEN THE OTHERS SHOWING TYPICAL SECTIONS.
AND THE LAST PAGE IS THE COST.
SO, SO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S SHOWING HERE IS A THREE LANE BRIDGE ON, ON AND OFF THE ISLAND.
SO THERE'S A THREE LANE BRIDGE COMING FROM, FROM BLUFFTON.
IT, IT IS A CONTINUOUS BREAK, SO IT DOES NOT TOUCH DOWN ONTO PINKNEY ISLAND.
SO IT CONTINUES FROM, YOU KNOW, BLUFFTON TO JENKINS ISLAND.
IT DOES INCLUDE THE, SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE ORANGE IS ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SO THE, THE ORANGE THAT'S SOUTH OF THE, THE, THE YELLOW IS THE EXISTING MACKEY CREEK THAT HAS TO BE REPLACED AS PART OF IT.
UM, THE PURPLE IS REPRESENTING THE WESTBOUND, UM, BRIDGE STRUCTURES OVER SKULL AND MACKEY CREEK.
AND THEN THE GREEN IS THE EASTBOUND SKULL CREEK BRIDGE.
SO IN THE ORANGE YOU FOLLOW THROUGH, IT CROSSES OVER PINKNEY ISLAND.
SO WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY UTILIZING THE GREEN TO MAKE A CONNECTION TO PINKNEY ISLAND TO IMPROVE THAT ACCESS.
SO THAT'S A SAFETY COMPONENT THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROJECT WAS HOW TO IMPROVE ACCESS ON AND OFF PINKNEY ISLAND.
BUT IN DOING THAT, WHERE THE BRIDGE TIES IN AT, WE DISCONNECT MARINERS COVE AND HOG ISLAND FROM JENKINS ISLAND, BASICALLY WHERE THEIR ACCESS ROAD, CURRENTLY THE BRIDGE IS GONNA GO, THE NEW PROPOSED BRIDGE WOULD GO OVER THAT.
SO WE DO CONSTRUCT A NEW BRIDGE NORTH OF THE EXISTING, UM, UH, 2 78 THAT PROVIDES THAT ACCESS ROAD TO HOG ISLAND AND DE MARINERS COVE THAT TIES BACK INTO JENKINS ISLAND AND WHITMORE HARBOR'S ENTERING.
SO WE'RE TIE DOING SOME ACCESS MANAGEMENT, REDUCING SOME INTERSECTIONS THROUGH THERE THAT HAVE SOME SAFETY COMPONENTS AS PEOPLE ARE COMING OFF THE BRIDGE TO HELP TRYING TO GET ACROSS THE TRAFFIC OR TO TIE IN THERE.
SO UNDER THIS SCENARIO, THE PURPLE WOULD BE RETAINED AS THE WESTBOUND ACCESS, THE EXISTING EASTBOUND SKULL CREEK BRIDGE WOULD BECOME THE NEW ACCESS TO PINY ISLAND.
SO IT WOULD GO ON, IT WOULD TIE IN THROUGH, THROUGH THE MEDIAN OF 2 78 IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
UM, THE, BASICALLY, PART OF THE FACTOR IN LOOKING AT THAT IS THE TWO SKULL CREEK BRIDGES ARE TIED TOGETHER.
SO IT IS ONE STRUCTURE FOR, FOR PART OF THE BRIDGE.
IT'S ONE STRUCTURE, PART OF IT'S SEPARATE, BUT TO DEMOLISH THAT BRIDGE IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PART OF THAT BRIDGE STILL HANGING OUT THERE WITH THE EXISTING SKULL CREEK BRIDGE.
SO UNDER THAT SCENARIO, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY OPTION ONE AND TWO.
SO OPTION OPTION ONE DOES NOT INCLUDE THE MULTI-USE PATH.
OPTION TWO INCLUDES THE MULTI-USE PATH.
SO ON, ON YOUR NEXT PAGE, UM, IT'S REALLY SHOWING A LIFELINE STRUCTURE OF CONSTRUCTING THREE LANES ALL THE WAY TO SPANISH WALL.
SO THE THREE LANES WOULD START AT MOSS CREEK, WHICH IS THE EXISTING STARTING POINT FOR US, 2 78 CORRIDOR.
AND IT WOULD TIE BACK INTO SPANISH WALLS ROAD, THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE THREE LANES ON ISLAND, TWO LANES OFF ISLAND.
SO THAT PROVIDES THAT, THAT LIFELINE CONNECTION.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT THE ENTIRE TIME IN THIS IS ONE TO CREATE A LIFELINE CONNECTION THAT IF, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A MAJOR, YOU KNOW, ENVI A MAJOR DISASTER EVENT, THAT THERE WOULD BE ACCESS ON AND OFF THE ISLAND SO THAT THAT EXISTING THREE, OR THE PROPOSED THREE LANE STRUCTURE HAS A 10 FOOT SHOULDERS ON EACH SIDE.
THAT ALLOWS FOR IF THE, WHEN THE WESTBOUND WERE REPLACED OR AN EMERGENCY EVENT THAT IT CAN HANDLE FOUR LANES OF THROUGH TRAFFIC IN THAT DIRECTION.
SO AGAIN, OPTION THREE AND FOUR IS EXTENDING IT TO SPANISH FALLS ROAD WITH AND WITHOUT THEM UP.
UM, OPTION FIVE IS THE FULL ANTICIPATED PROJECT COST.
SO THAT IS, THAT IS EVERYTHING.
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STRUCTURE, SIX LANE 2 78.THEN OPTION SIX IS JUST THE REPLACEMENT OF THE EASTBOUND MACKEY CREEK BRIDGE.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE WENT THROUGH KIND OF TRYING TO LOOK AT THE PRICE RANGE AND WHAT, WHAT COULD BE DONE FOR THE $300 MILLION THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.
THAT WOULDN'T GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE, BUT WE COULD USE A LOT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL DATA TO ACCELERATE IT.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE THE GOAL IS TO BE IN CONSTRUCTION IN 2027 WITH THIS.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN AT WITH THE EASTBOUND MAC CREEK BRIDGES.
IT NEEDS TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN 2027.
SO ON THE, SO ON, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COST SYSTEM, WE HAVE THE FIRST COLUMN IS THE BRIDGE COST.
THEN WE GO TO THE ROADWAY RIGHT AWAY.
SO RIGHT AWAY IS ANY LAND THAT NEEDS TO BE ACQUIRED AS PART OF IT.
UM, THE MITIGATION IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION.
THAT INCLUDES FOR WHEN WE HAVE THE LIFELINE OPTIONS THAT INCLUDES THE MITIGATION WITHIN STONY.
IF IT, IF WE DO NOT HAVE ANY LIFELINE OPTION ON, ON HILLHEAD, THAT ONLY INCLUDES THE ENVIRONMENTAL WETLAND MITIGATION.
UM, THE UTILITY COSTS INCLUDES THE HILTON HEAD, PSD, WATER, THE TRANSMISSION LINES.
UM, THERE'S ONE OTHER IN THERE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT COST.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE ESTIMATE THE COST TO BE.
PRELIMINARILY LOOKING AT IT, WHAT THE UTILITIES COULD POTENTIALLY COST TO REPLACE.
UM, AND THEN CNI IS CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING INSPECTION.
SO THAT'S HAVING A FIRM OUT THERE INSPECTING THE WORK IS COMPLETE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU HAVE THE LIFELINE OPTION.
SO THAT'S JUST THE BRIDGE WITHOUT, WITHOUT THE ROADWAY CONNECTION TO HILLHEAD IS 257 MILLION, ROUGHLY 258 MILLION.
WHEN YOU ADD THE MULTI-USE PATH, IT GOES UP TO ALMOST 320 MILLION.
SO LIFELINE OPTION, WHICH INCLUDES THE THREE LANES TO UH, SPANISH WELL ROAD IS 274 MILLION, UM, WITHOUT THE UP.
AND WHEN YOU PUT THE MULTI-USE PATH ON THERE, YOU'VE GOT 304, 340 1 MILLION.
AND THESE, THESE ARE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
SO THESE DON'T COUNT PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING, BUT THIS IS JUST CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
AND THEN FOR THE FULL COST IS 4 66 OR 467 MILLION.
AND THEN THE REPLACING JUST TO REPLACE THE EASTBOUND MACKEY CREEK BRIDGE IS 89 MILLION.
SO AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN UP TO, TO COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS, OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, QUESTION ONE IS, THE CURRENT MONEY THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS SPECULATED AS 298 MILLION ROUGHLY? YES.
UM, THE, YOU SAID THESE ARE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
THESE ARE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GET INTO CONSTRUCTION TILL 27.
AND THESE, THESE DO INCLUDE INFLATION TO CARRY IT FOR, SO IT DOES HAVE A CONTINGENCY ON THESE NUMBERS AS WELL.
SO THE QUESTION IN MY MIND IS A SIMPLE ONE.
UM, I RULE OUT FIVE AND SIX FIVE WAS THE, WHAT WE PUT OUT FOR THE REFERENDUM AND IT FAILED.
SO WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE SIX, JUST REPLACING THAT ONE BRIDGE ISN'T GONNA DO IT.
WE NOW WANT TO PUT A BRIDGE IN, AS PEOPLE HAVE SAID, THAT'S GONNA LAST 50 TO 75 YEARS.
LOOKING OUT 50 TO 75 YEARS, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS GOING TO BE.
WHO'S GOING TO BE LIVING ON THE ISLAND? HOW IS, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET TO AND FROM THE ISLAND? THE MULTI-USE PATHWAY, WE WANT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT IS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE.
SO IN MY MIND IT IS GOING TO BE ITEM, UM, THREE OR FOUR, OPTION THREE OR FOUR.
AND UM, NOW WE HAVE TO FIND OUT WE'RE AT 2 98.
WHERE ARE WE GONNA GET THAT? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE DEBATE.
WE HAVE TO HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS COMMENTS? I HAD ONE COMMENT.
UH, I KNOW A BIG QUESTION HAS BEEN ABOUT THE UTILITIES AND THE WATERLINE ON, AND THAT IS FIGURED IN UNDER UTILITY? YES.
THAT THAT IS FIGURED IN UNDER UTILITY.
IT, IT'S FIGURED IN PARTIALLY.
SO WHEN WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT, IT IS, IT IS FULLY IN THERE, RIGHT? IT'S ALL 20 MILLIONS IN THERE.
IT'S 16.6 IS WHAT IT WAS ESTIMATED AT.
AND THAT'S, THAT IS WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS 16.64.
I'M LOOKING TO THE TWO HILTON HEAD.
UH, I THINK A LOT WAS SAID ALREADY.
STAY WITHIN OUR MEANS, OUR BUDGETARY MEANS AND, AND LET'S COME TOGETHER WITH TOWN COUNCIL AND GET THIS DONE.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA STAY WITHIN OUR, WITHIN OUR MEANS, WHICH IS I AGREE WITH MR. REEDS AND WHICH IS WHAT THE PEOPLE TOLD US WHEN THEY
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VOTED AGAINST THE REFERENDUM, THEN CLEARLY IT'S PRO, IT'S OPTION ONE, THE MULTI-USE PATH ADDS.WELL, AT ONE POINT THEY SAID LAST WEEK, 70 MILLION TAKE IT ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO 70.
SO ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S DESIRE FOR IT MM-HMM
IF WE'RE GOING TO STAY ANYWHERE NEAR OUR BUDGET, WE ARE ON OPTION ONE.
AND AS WE DISCUSSED WITH, UH, OUR ADMINISTRATOR, WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE TO UNDERSTAND OVERRUNS TOO.
'CAUSE THOSE WILL BE ON THE COUNTY.
GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT'LL BE OVERRUNS BY 2027.
THE CLARIFICATION ON THAT IS THAT MEANS THAT THE BRIDGE WOULD STOP AT WINDMILL HARBOR AND THERE'D BE BE NO ALTERATIONS TO ANY OF THE, UH, ROADWAYS FROM THE DESTINATION OF THE BRIDGE ON THAT SIDE THROUGH THE SPANISH WELLS.
OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WEIGH IN, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM HILTON HEAD, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, JUST COME FORWARD.
UM, I REPRESENT WARD FOUR, UM, ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR INVITING US TODAY.
AND THANK YOU FOR, UM, YOU GUYS FROM S-C-D-O-T SHOWING UP TO, TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ABOUT THE MEETINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, WITH REGARD TO THE MEETINGS, I'M TERRIFICALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT, UM, OF THE THREE PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT SOME PORTION OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, NONE OF THEM WERE INCLUDED IN THE MEETINGS IN COLUMBIA.
THIS BRIDGE IMPACTS THE RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD.
IT MAY BE A CASH COW AND IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL, SOME OF Y'ALL WANT TO DRAW OUT TO BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND THE STATE.
BUT FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE THERE, FOR THOSE OF US WHO DEPEND ON THE VISITORS WHO COME TO HELP ACHIEVE ALL OF OUR GOALS OF HAVING A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE AND FULFILL THE MISSION OF BEING A RESORT RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, WE CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS ON OUR ISLAND AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE.
AND DO YOU, AND WHEN OUR REPRESENTATIVES AREN'T INCLUDED IN THAT DISCUSSION, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THOSE VOICES.
THAT, SO THAT'S A CRITICISM THAT I'M GOING TO START WITH.
AND THEN I'M GOING TO ASK YOU QUESTION TO, UM, AGREE WITH THE IDEA THAT WE LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS.
WE ARE AN ISLAND AND SO THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE NEED TO GET THERE, UM, ON A CAR OR A BOAT OR A PLANE.
I'M NOT AS BOTHERED BY THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOT A BIKE.
P UM, YES, HILTON HEAD IS A GOLD, HOPEFULLY PLATINUM, UM, COMMUNITY, BUT THAT'S WITHIN HILTON HEAD AND, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO US.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF HILTON HEAD, NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THE BRIDGE.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, UM, WITH REGARD TO HOW I, I JUST NEED BETTER EXPLANATION ABOUT HOW THAT ACCESS TO PICKNEY ISLAND ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
UM, FROM THE DESCRIPTION, I WASN'T QUITE UNDERSTANDING THE TRAFFIC FLOW WITH ALL OF THAT.
AND SO THAT IS MY QUESTION BACK TO CRAIG.
SO, UM, AS YOU BASICALLY, AS YOU'RE HEADING WESTBOUND ON 2 78, WILL YOU BRING THAT UP? YEAH, BRING THEM IN.
WHICH OPTION IS THAT, CRAIG? SO THAT IS BASICALLY THE, A ACCESS WOULD BE AN ALL, ALL BASICALLY OPTIONS ONE THROUGH FOUR.
SO THIS SHOWS ONE, THIS SHOWS ONE AND TWO, AND THEN YOU'D ADD THE ROADWAY COMPONENT TO GET THREE AND FOUR.
UM, SO THE WESTBOUND SCHOOL CREEK BRIDGE, SO THE EXISTING WESTBOUND SCHOOL CREEK BRIDGE MM-HMM
WOULD RETAIN ITS EXISTING LOCATION.
UM, IT WOULD TIE INTO, BASICALLY IF YOU'RE HEADING WESTBOUND ON 2 78, THERE WOULD BE A LEFT, UM, EXIT TYPE SITUATION WHERE YOU WOULD HEAD TOWARDS THAT BRIDGE TO ACCESS PITNEY ISLAND AND THEY WOULD REVERSE COMING BACK THE OTHER DIRECTION.
YOU'D HAVE A MERGE LANE COMING BACK EASTBOUND FROM PINNEY ISLAND.
NOW THE CONCERN WITH THAT IS THERE IS HAS TO BE A U-TURN AT SOME POINT TO IF PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM BLUFF AND GOING TO THE, THE BOAT RAMP OR TO, UM, PINNEY ISLAND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A U-TURN.
UM, WE ARE, WE HAVE EVALUATED OUR STILL EVALUATING, POTENTIALLY FLIPPING THOSE BRIDGES AND MAKING THE CURRENT EASTBOUND, UH, SKULL CREEK BRIDGE INTO THE WESTBOUND AND THEN HAVING, BASICALLY HAVING A CONNECTION OVER TO THAT NEW ORANGE ACCESS ROAD AND CONNECTING, BASICALLY HAVING EVERYTHING COME THROUGH THE, THE SIGNAL AT WINDMILL HARBOR AND GOING BACK AND THEN ACCESSING UP TO THE EXISTING PURPLE.
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HAVE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL HIGH LEVEL ALTERNATIVES.WE HAVEN'T GOT DOWN INTO THE ENGINEERING OF, UNTIL WE MAKE A PATH FORWARD DETERMINATION, BUT THERE IS THE OPTION OF UTILIZING THE PURPLE ACCESS FOR PINE ISLAND AS WELL.
CRAIG, I DON'T YOU STOP YOU ONE SECOND.
THAT, UM, THE NEW HOG ISLAND CONNECTOR, JUST FOR PEOPLE'S VIEW WHO HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THESE MAPS BEFORE, THAT'S GONNA RUN PARALLEL TO 2 78 AND IT'S GONNA BE NORTH OF THE EXISTING 2 78.
AND THAT IS GOING TO END AT JENKINS ISLAND ROAD, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
AND THAT JENKINS ISLAND EXIT AND ENTRANCE WOULD BE CLOSED WHEN THAT CONNECTOR IS INSTALLED, CORRECT? THAT'S OKAY.
I JUST, THAT WAS THE INITIAL PLAN.
WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FOR THAT.
WHETHER THAT'S POSSIBLE TO YES.
IF IT'S THERE THAT WAY, I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNTY COUNCIL? WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME FOR, FOR US TO TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE S CIB? UH, OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE MIKE OR, OR Y'ALL.
UM, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YES.
I DON'T KNOW IF CRAIG'S GONNA ANSWER IT OR MIKE MIGHT KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS 2 78 AND THAT CONNECTOR, BUT THE CONNECTOR GOES IN, I REALIZE THAT THE, UH, THE, UH, CORRIDOR FROM JENKINS ISLAND TO SQUIRE POPE, I'VE RUN IT OFF IT'S 0.8 MILES, EIGHT TENTHS OF A MILE, AND IT'S TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND YOU SEE THIS 2 78 WITH A CONNECTOR, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE'LL BE NO ALTERATIONS TO 2 78, BUT THAT ALL THE ALTERATIONS WILL BE THE CONNECTOR ONTO THE NEW, ONTO THE NEW BRIDGE? IS THAT IT FOR TRAFFIC? SO, YES.
SO THE, THE NEW CONNECTOR UNDER THIS AREA WOULD STOP AT WHITMORE HARBOR.
WIMBLE HARBOR INTERSECTION TO IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION, MAKE THAT CONNECTION POINT.
BUT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE LOGICAL TERM FOR THE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT IS THAT IF IT'S JUST THE BRIDGE REPLACEMENTS THAT TAKE TO THE WOODMORE HARBOR INTERSECTION AND THEN TIED IN BACK ON THE BLUFF INSIDE WHERE WE CAN GET THE BRIDGE TIED IN.
SO THERE WILL BE SOME, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME ROAD WORK ON EACH END TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION, BUT, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A TON OF ROAD WORK.
BUT THAT'S WHERE THE, THE CHARLOTTE, THE, UH, CHARLOTTE HEINRICH CIRCLE IS THAT, THAT GOES DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM WINDMILL HARBOR THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THAT NEW PARALLEL ROAD THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN, CORRECT? YES.
AND THAT MIGHT GO IN WITH OPTIONS ONE TO FOUR, BUT THAT IT WOULDN'T THEN GO PAST JENKINS ISLAND ROAD, SQUIRE, POPE AND SPANISH WELLS.
BUT IT COULD GO UP TO JENKINS ISLAND ROAD? YEAH, I WOULD SAY, OR JUST TO THE CIRCLE POTENTIALLY.
IT WOULD PROBABLY STOP SOMEWHERE BETWEEN C HEINRICHS AND JENKINS ROAD.
SO I BELIEVE JARED PASSED OUT THE NOTES MM-HMM
SO IF YOU GO TO, I THINK IT'S A THIRD PAGE, IT TALKS ABOUT STEPS FORWARD MM-HMM
SO WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION WITH, UM, THE SECRETARY AND HIS STAFF, AND JUST BEAR IN MIND, THEY REITERATED THAT MARCH 31ST AND THEY NEED TO HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM THE WAY HE PUT IT TO US WAS IT NEEDS TO BE REALLY BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY, THAT THERE'S AN AGREEMENT ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, IF WE DON'T COME UP WITH THAT, THEN I BELIEVE OPTION SIX, WHICH IS THE, UM, $88 MILLION REPAIR MM-HMM
BY DEFAULT, THAT WOULD BECOMES THE ONLY OPTION.
THAT WOULD BE THE OPTION AT THAT POINT.
I, I THINK THAT'S CHARACTERIZING IT FAIRLY.
SO WHAT WE DISCUSSED WITH HIM IS WHAT DO WE NEED TO GO TO THE SIB? AND WHAT HE RECOMMENDED WAS THAT, UH, THE TOWN AND THE, AND THE COUNTY, UM, PASS A JOINT RESOLUTION, UM, THAT COULD BE TAKEN TO THE SIB, WHICH WOULD BE AN INDICATION THAT THERE'S AGREEMENT AND ALIGNMENT ON THE PROJECT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY.
AND ALSO THEY MENTIONED A TERM SHEET IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GONNA, UM, MODIFY THE, THE SIB AGREEMENT, UH, WITH, WITH THE IGA.
HE ALSO MENTIONED AT SOME POINT WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE SOME INITIAL DIALOGUE WITH THE SIB.
UM, BUT WE WOULD ALSO WANT TO GET A SENSE FROM BOTH COUNCILS IS, IS THERE AGREEMENT ON, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THESE OPTIONS TO GO FORWARD AND REALLY WITHIN, UNLESS WE'RE GONNA GO FIND ADDITIONAL FUNDS, IT'S REALLY OPTION ONE OR OPTION SIX.
COULD YOU, FOR THE PUBLIC, EXPLAIN WHAT THE SIB'S ROLE IS IN THIS? SO THE SIB HAS PROVIDED A, UM, ESSENTIALLY A GRANT TO FUND, UM, THIS PROJECT.
UM, IT'S A, UM, PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT.
SO THE COUNTY HAS PUT IN FUNDS AND THEN THE SIB IS GOING TO PROVIDE FUNDS TOWARDS THE PROJECT.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT COMMITMENT HERE.
SO THE STIB AGREEMENT IS FOR $120 MILLION MM-HMM
UM, THE COUNTY FUNDING AVAILABLE FUNDING IS $101 MILLION.
SO THAT'S 80 FROM 2018 SALES TAX AND 21 FROM, UM, IMPACT FEES.
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UM, WAS AT 74,500,000.AND THEN AS PART OF, UH, RIGHT OF WAY DONATIONS, THE TOWN HAS A LITTLE OVER 3 MILLION.
SO THAT'S THE 298 MILLION AVAILABLE.
UM, THROUGH OUR DISCUSSIONS TOO, UH, WITH THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE COST ESTIMATING THAT DOT HAS RECENTLY DONE, AND SPECIFICALLY TO THE REPLACEMENT OF MACKE MACKEY CREEK BRIDGE, UH, THEY DETERMINED THAT THE COST OF THAT REPLACEMENT IS GREATER THAN WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE PROJECT.
SO THEY HAVE, LIKE I SAID, 74.5 MILLION, UH, AND THEY THINK IT'S MORE IN THE $90 MILLION.
SO THEY'RE, UH, WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE UP TO ABOUT $16 MILLION MORE TOWARDS THE PROJECT.
UM, AND THAT'S REFLECTED, IF YOU LOOK AT OPTION SIX, THAT COST, THAT ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTION IS REFLECTED THERE FROM WHAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY, WHICH WAS I THINK APPROXIMATELY 72 MILLION SOMEWHERE.
SO IF WE WENT WITH OPTION SIX, MOST LIKELY THE SIB IS GONNA WITHDRAW THEIR, THEIR FUNDING OPTION ONE.
WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO, UH, NEGOTIATE WITH THE SIB TO UNDERSTAND IF THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA MAINTAIN THEIR CURRENT COMMITMENT.
THAT, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT'S ALSO MENTIONED IN SENATOR DAVIS'S LETTER.
BUT I BELIEVE THE SECRETARY, YOU KNOW, BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION, IF THERE'S ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE TWO COUNCILS AND DOT, IT MAKES A STRONG CASE TO GO FORWARD TO THE SIP ALONG WITH THE DELEGATION AS WELL.
AND THAT, THAT EMPHASIZES THE URGENCY OF WHAT, WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS WORKSHOP.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER JOINT WORKSHOP YES.
AND AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, THE, THE BRIDGE WILL BE ON A ONE YEAR INSPECTION CYCLE.
SO AT ANY POINT, IF THEY COME AND THEY INSPECTED THE BRIDGE A POINT IN THE FUTURE, THERE COULD BE A, A POSTING, I BELIEVE IS, IS THE TERM WHICH WOULD LEAD TO LIMITATIONS ON BRIDGE TRAFFIC, WHICH DOT COULD PROBABLY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INSIGHT INTO THAT.
WHEN WAS THE LAST INSPECTION, HAS IT BEEN THIS YEAR? HAS IT BEEN 2024? OCTOBER.
SO, AND WITHIN A YEAR THERE'LL BE ANOTHER INSPECTIONS, CORRECT.
DO WE WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DESIGN BUILD CONCEPT? OH, MA, MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, MAY I JUST RAISE ONE POINT? I SAW SOMETHING FLASH UP HERE, SARAH.
AND WE'RE TALKING HERE ABOUT OPTION ONE AND OPTION SIX.
COULD YOU TRY AND FIND THAT FLASH WHERE IT SAYS IF OPTION SIX IT'S IN RED, IS THE ONE THAT'S CONSIDERED IT, THEN WENT ON TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE WINDMILL BLE LIGHT? YEAH, I CAN ADDRESS THAT.
SO THESE NOTES, AGAIN, THEY'RE HARD OFF TO PRESS.
IT WAS ME AND SEAN COLIN GOING BACK AND FORTH AND THOSE WERE OUR TRACK COMMENTS.
CAN YOU PUT THAT UP HERE SOMEWHERE SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT? BUT IF YOU GO TO, LET ME TELL YOU WHERE TO GO.
IT WAS THERE AND THEN IT WENT AWAY VERY QUICKLY.
I, I CAN POINT YOU TO BACK TO THAT, UM, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
SO IT'S NOT IN RED ANYMORE, BUT THIS IS THE COMMENT THAT YOU'RE SO RIGHT HERE IN SEVEN, THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS IS A SUMMATION OF OUR COMMENTS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSIONS.
THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
AND SO GLEN HARBOR SIGNAL WILL REMAIN UNLESS EXCLUDING OPTION SIX.
OPTION SIX IS WHERE THEY ONLY BILL, DOT ONLY REPLACES THE MACKEY CREEK BRIDGE PERIOD.
BUT WHY WOULD THAT, WHY WOULD THAT EXCLUDE, WHY WOULD THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M SORRY.
UH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD REMAIN AS IS THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS AT WINDMILL HARBOR.
I THINK WHAT WAS, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY HERE IS THAT, AND WINDMILL HARBOR IS THE TERMINI IN OPTIONS ONE THROUGH FOUR.
AND THEN RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN EXISTING SIGNAL WITH, WITH UH, WOOD POLE.
I'M HEARING A LOT OF WORDS OUT.
IF THEY GO WITH SIX, WHICH I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE LIGHT WILL BE REMOVED? NO, THANK YOU.
JUDGE, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN? YES, SIR.
SO WE DID DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL OF A DESIGN BUILD WITH, UH, THE SECRETARY AND STAFF.
AND AS AN, AS AN OPTION, THE DESIGN BUILD COULD CONSIDER THE BIKE PATH AS A POTENTIAL OPTION AND A DECISION COULD POTENTIALLY BE MADE LATER ON, ON FUNDING THERE AS I ESSENTIALLY THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT.
HE WOULD BE THE BEST ONE TO DESCRIBE THAT PROCESS AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
SO, SO WHAT THE SECRETARY MENTIONED IN OUR MEETING, UM, THURSDAY, WAS THAT, SO IN A, IN A DESIGN BUILD PURSUIT OR A DESIGN BUILD DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT, THE, UM, THE CONTRACTOR AND THE ENGINEER WORK TOGETHER.
AND THERE ARE OFTENTIMES WAYS THAT THEY CAN FIND INNOVATIVE, INNOVATIVE OF WAYS TO PROVIDE SOMETHING SUCH AS A MULTI-USE PATH THEY CAN, UM, THAT CAN BE, UH, SPECIFIED AS PART
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OF THE SCOPE.AS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE WERE TO GO THAT ROUTE, YOU COULD MAKE THAT A REQUIREMENT SOMEHOW OF THE PROJECT.
NOW I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT WOULD FIT WITHIN WHAT Y'ALL ARE SAYING, LIVING WITHIN YOUR MEANS, BUT THAT WAS OFFERED AS AN IDEA THURSDAY AS A POSSIBILITY.
IT'S NOT, CERTAINLY NOT A GUARANTEE THAT IT'S GONNA GET YOU UNDER THAT, UNDER THE APPROXIMATELY 300 MILLION, BUT IT IS, IT IS A WAY TO DELIVER THE PROJECT AND SOMETIMES CAN, CAN BE A, AN ALTERNATE WAY TO DO IT.
SO THE, THE OTHER CONCERN, UM, WAS IF, IF HE DID THAT AT BOTH ENDS, WHERE DOES THE PATH GO? WHERE DOES IT GO? AND, AND THAT IS A COST THAT WE DON'T HAVE BUILT IN.
IT IS BUILDING A PATH TO, UM, NON CONNECTING PATHWAYS.
AND MA'AM CHAIRMAN, YOU YES, SIR.
I ALSO KNOW IS WHEN WE WERE TALKING YOU SAID THAT, UM, WHO WOULD MAINTAIN THE PATH? SOMEONE HAS TO MAINTAIN IT AND THE SPEED LIMIT WOULD BE 45.
AND THEN THE SAFETY OF HAVING THOSE BIKE PATHS.
YOU WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? YOU KNOW, YOU SAID ABOUT BARRIERS OR WHATEVER? WELL, YEAH, I MEAN THE, SO WE'RE NOT REAL CRAZY ABOUT HAVING THOSE KIND OF FLEXIBLE DELINEATORS YOU SEE OFTENTIMES THAT GET IT RUNS OVER, GET RUN OVER, THEY'RE HARD TO MAINTAIN.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, IN THE, IN A CASE LIKE THIS, WE WOULD PREFER SOME KIND OF A SOLID BARRIER BETWEEN THE BIKES AND, AND THE TRAFFIC.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S WHAT ADDS TO THE COST.
IS THAT FAIR? CHRIS? LET'S, LET'S, LET'S START AT THE GEORGE.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE HEARD WITH RIGHT NOW.
WELL YOU WANNA MAKE A COMMENT FIRST? GO AHEAD.
IN DESIGN BUILD, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACCELERATE THE PROCESS? 'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSTRUCTION NOT BEGINNING UNTIL 2027, BUT IF WE MADE A DECISION TO GO DESIGN BUILD OF WHATEVER OPTION, IS IT CONCEIVABLE THAT WE COULD SHORTEN THE TIMEFRAME BEFORE WE ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTION? YES, BUT I WOULD SAY NOT SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE THE, THE PLANS STILL HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED.
WE'VE STILL GOTTA DO SOME KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT RIGHT OF WAY STILL HAS TO BE BOUGHT.
THOSE ARE ALL KIND OF CRITICAL PATH ELEMENTS.
UTILITIES HAVE TO BE IDENTIFIED AND RELOCATED.
WHAT YOU CAN DO, AND, AND THIS IS POSSIBLE ON THE DESIGN BID BUILD SIDE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY KIND OF WHERE WE ARE, YOU CAN, YOU CAN INCENTIVIZE THE CONTRACTOR TO WORK FASTER NOW THAT IT'S GONNA COST YOU MONEY TOO.
BUT, UM, WHAT THE DESIGN BUILD OPTION OFFERS IS, IS A WAY, YOU KNOW, A WAY FOR THE CONTRACTOR THAT HAS BEEN SELECTED WHO'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE OUT THERE BUILDING THE PROJECT TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE DESIGNER AND REALIZE SOME EFFICIENCIES THERE.
UM, IT'S NOT A MAGIC BULLET FOR SURE, BUT IT IS AN OPTION.
UM, AND I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T SAY YOU WOULD CUT THE, EITHER THE DEVELOPMENT TIME OR THE CONSTRUCTION TIME BY, BY YEARS.
IT COULD BE MONTHS, BUT NOT BY YEARS.
LET'S, UNLESS YOU HAVE YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE, THEN WE'LL START AROUND.
THIS IS THE LAST YEAR OF MONEY THAT THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA CAN GET FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UNDER THE BIL FOR HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION.
IS THERE ANY MONEY THAT COULD BE TAPPED IN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? UM, SO THERE, THERE ARE ALWAYS FEDERAL GRANTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE, WE'RE UNCLEAR WHERE THOSE MAY BE HEADED HERE.
AND THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, FEDERAL GRANTS ARE A POSSIBILITY, BUT THE, OUR, OUR APPORTIONMENT OR OUR FORMULA FUNDING THAT WE GET FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH INCLUDES FEDERAL BRIDGE FUNDS, UM, THAT IS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE UP FOR REAUTHORIZATION SOON.
AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S A NEGOTIATION FOR SURE, BUT IT'S, I DON'T SEE IT AS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING AWAY.
IT, IT'S A PART OF OUR OVERALL FUNDING THAT WE, WE MATCH WITH STATE FUNDINGS AND REALIZE FEDERAL FUND FUNDS BACK TO THE DOT.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, IT'S GOTTA BE AUTHOR REAUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO AWAY BECAUSE IT ENCOMPASSES ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS ALL, ALL OVER THE STATE, ALL OF THE FEDERAL MONEY THAT WE RECEIVE.
LET'S TOM, WITH THE DESIGN, THERE COULD BE PHASES DOWN THE ROAD FOR BIKE PATHS AND OTHER THINGS THAT GO ON.
SO, I MEAN, WHAT WE AGREE TO TODAY TO LIVE WITHIN
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A MEANS IS NOT GONNA LIMIT US DOWN THE ROAD.UM, CERTAINLY OFF THE BRIDGES, YES, IT IS, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO, I MEAN, YOU COULD BUILD A BRIDGE SO THAT IT COULD BE ADDED ONTO IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT'S, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND VERY DIFFICULT.
I THINK THAT'S BEEN KINDA LOOKED AT CRAIG.
I MEAN, YOU'RE BASICALLY DESIGNED FOR IT NOW.
YOU DON'T BUILD IT SO YOU FACTOR IN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY YOU FOUNDATIONS FOR IT.
YOU HAVE TO BUILD IT, IT AS IF IT'S THERE.
SO IT'S GONNA INCREASE THE PROFIT COSTS NOW.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO FACTOR THAT INTO EVERYTHING.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE YOU CAN WIDEN IT, BUT IT IS, I APPRECIATE THAT.
OR YOU CAN BUILD A SEPARATE STRUCTURE NEXT TO IT.
UH, COUNCILMAN GLOVER? UH, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN.
UH, I, UM, I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT I LIKE, UM, OPTION FOUR, IT'S ONE I LIKE OPTION FOUR.
IT ACTUALLY TAKES IT ALL THE WAY TO, UM, THE SPANISH, UM, NO IT DOESN'T.
YEAH, IT DOES TAKE YOU TO THE SPANISH WELLS ROAD.
UM, AND IT HAS THE MULTI-USE PATHWAY.
UM, I CAN SETTLE FOR OPTION TWO.
AND I THINK, UM, IF THE STATE HAS GIVEN US, UM, MAY GIVE US PRETTY CLOSE TO $16 MILLION, I MEAN THAT WE MAY HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO ACTUALLY DO OPTION TWO, UM, WITH THE MULTI-USE PATHS.
I LIKE THE, SO THE 16 MILLION IS IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAD ALREADY COMMITTED.
SO OUR DOT'S CONTRIBUTION IS RIGHT AT 90 MILLION NOW THAT'S PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.
AND ADDITIONAL 16 MILLION GOES TOWARD THE, I CAN ADDRESS TOWARD THE OVERALL PROJECT.
SO WE'RE AT 2 98 RIGHT NOW AND THAT INCLUDES 3 MILLION FROM RIGHT OF AWAY DONATIONS FROM HILTON HEAD.
UM, AND IF YOU TAKE THAT OFF, THIS IS WHAT COUNT OR SENATOR DAVIS DESCRIBED IN HIS LETTER, IF YOU TAKE OFF THE RIGHT OF WAY DONATIONS AND LOOK AT CASH, UM, YOU'RE AT 2 95 AND WITH THE ADDITION 16, UM, THAT MAKES IT TWO OR THREE 11.
AND WE'VE EXPENDED, WE'VE EXPENDED ON ENGINEERING SO FAR ABOUT 13, SO WE'RE BACK TO 2 98 IS HOW MUCH WE ACTUALLY HAVE FROM THIS VERY POINT FORWARD FOR THE REST OF ALL OF THE PROJECT, WHATEVER THE PROJECT IS.
THE THREE 19 ON OPTION TWO, UM, UM, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE MONEY, THE FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPENDED ALREADY TOO? NO.
SO THAT NUMBER SHOULD PROBABLY BE, UM, SOMEWHERE ON HERE.
SO WE KNOW THEY COST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE THREE SURE.
UM, I, I I, I DO LIKE THE MULTI-USE PATHWAYS.
UM, AND SO, UM, I COULD SETTLE FOR NUMBER TWO.
UM, AND I LIKE THE DESIGN BUILT AND, UM, IF WE DO A DESIGN BUILT AND THREE YEARS FROM NOW WHILE THE STOOL BEING DESIGNED, IF WE FIND THE FUNDS, COULD WE EXTEND IT TO INCLUDE GOING FROM, UM, SQUIRE POPE TO SPANISH WELLS? IT'S GONNA BE EASIER TO, UM, ADD TO A PROJECT.
FIRST OFF, YOU GOTTA DECIDE WHAT PROJECT YOU'RE DOING NOW FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT TO CLOSE.
AND THAT'S, LET'S, LET'S USE OPTION TWO AS AN EXAMPLE.
LET ME USE YEAH, OPTION TWO AS EXAMPLE.
SO THAT IS JUST THE BRIDGE WITH THE MULTI-USE PATHWAY.
SO WHAT IS NOT BEING PERMITTED AT THAT TIME IS THE MULTI-USE PATHWAY PLUS ANY ROADWAY, UM, CONSTRUCTION FROM WINDMILL HARBOR TO SPANISH WELLS.
NONE OF THAT IS IN THE PERMIT.
SO THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE PERMIT AND A SEPARATE PROJECT FROM OPTION TWO.
SO IF YOU FOUND THE FUNDING, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO A NEW DESIGN AND A NEW, SO THEY WOULDN'T MATCH UP SIMULTANEOUSLY.
YOU COULDN'T JUST EXTEND THE PROJECT, UM, BECAUSE YOU FOUND FUNDING ALONG THE WAY.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO AN ADDITIONAL PROJECT AND YOU'D HAVE TO DO SEPARATE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTATION.
DEPENDING ON WHAT DOLLARS WERE USED.
SO ONE, ONE TO WHAT YOU'RE GETTING TO, COULD WE DO WHAT WE CAN AFFORD NOW? AND, AND IF WE FIND MONEY, DO SOMETHING EXTRA LATER.
UM, SO WHAT OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO DO IS THEY MAKE THAT IDEA AS EASILY ACCESSIBLE AS POSSIBLE.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS RIGHT NOW WE
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HAVE OUR LARGEST CON, NOT LARGEST, ONE OF OUR CONSTRAINTS ON THE PROJECT IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT, THE NEPA DOCUMENT, WHICH IS FROM MOSS CREEK TO SPANISH WELLS.IN THIS OPTION ONE AND TWO, BASICALLY THE PROJECT CHANGES THE PURPOSE AND NEED CHANGES AND IT'S A BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROJECT MINUS THE LITTLE BIT OF ROAD WORK THAT'S REQUIRED TO MAKE THE FIT IN.
SO THEN THAT IS THE ONLY PART THAT'S FEDERAL.
SO THEN IF THERE WAS OPPORTUNITY TO DO, WHETHER IT'S ROAD WORK OR PATHWAY WORK BEYOND THOSE POINTS, THAT COULD BE DONE AS A SEPARATE LOCAL PROJECT, BUT NOT SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE FEDERAL PROJECT JUDGE.
THIS, UH, QUESTION WITH WAS THE SAME THING I HAD.
I WAS LIKE, WHY CAN'T YOU START EARLIER THAN 27? BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE ALL THESE OTHER THINGS GOING, THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY AND, AND RIGHT TO AND ALL THAT.
SO THE ONLY OTHER THING, UM, I'LL POINT OUT ON PAGE TWO, SARAH, IF YOU COULD, IT'S ITEM NUMBER TWO.
SO IT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO SEE THIS ON THE NOTES OR ON THE BACK OF, ON THE NOTES ON PAGE TWO.
WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT DESIGN BUILD, LOOK AT THAT SECOND DOT.
S-C-D-O-T HAS SEEN AS 70% PROJECT COST ESCALATION OVER THE PAST, UH, FIVE YEARS.
SO WE'RE NOT EVEN GONNA START THIS TILL 27, LORD KNOWS HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE.
AGAIN, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT COST OVERRUNS BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE AT COUNTY EXPENSE.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT.
WELL, AND, AND THAT COMMENT, JUST TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, SO THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE THURSDAY MEETING WITH DOT AND SECRETARY POWELL REFERENCED THIS, THAT WE DID SEE A PERIOD OF HYPERINFLATION, UM, AND FROM THE EVERY YEAR, EVERY MONTH THEY LET PROJECTS.
SO THEY GET NEW DATA IN AND IT SEEMS AS IF IT IS EASING, UH, DON'T NECESSARILY, AND THIS WAS ME PARAPHRASING SECRETARY POWELL'S WORDS DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THE PRICES GOING DOWN, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING UP AS STEEP AS THEY WERE THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS.
SO, UM, TO CRAIG'S RESPONSE, THERE IS SOME FUNDING AS CONTINGENCY FOR PRICE ESCALATION UNTIL WE GET IT TO BID.
BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY A LARGE CONCERN.
UNDERSTANDABLE, COUNCILMAN AND WAIT, I'M SORRY.
AND NUMBER NINE, JUST SO EVERYONE, THIS GOES BACK TO PROJECT TIMING.
THIS IS WHAT WE ALL DISCUSSED LAST WEEK, SO THAT KIND OF SPELLS IT RIGHT OUT THERE.
NUMBER NINE, PROJECT TIMING TIMEFRAME.
SO YOU COULD SEE IT'S STILL, I ASKED JARED, CAN WE PUT SOME SHOVELS IN THE GROUND FASTER? AND THE ANSWER WAS NO.
COUNCILMAN FALLON, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER LAST QUESTIONS? YEAH, YEAH.
UH, THANKS FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING ON THIS JOB.
THIS, UM, WATER DELIVERY SYSTEM THAT COMES TO HILTON HEAD, UH, FOR THAT PIPE THAT GOES UNDER THE WATER THERE IS, UH, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND OF COURSE THEY CAN'T BUILD A BRIDGE ON TOP OF THE OLD PIPE, SO THEY HAVE TO MOVE IT.
AND I UNDERSTAND FROM THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD THAT THE PSD ONE INDICATES THAT THEY MAY NEED $20 MILLION TO DO THAT.
AND I SEE IN YOUR BUDGET AT 16 MM-HMM
WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? HOW FIRM WERE WE ON THAT? UH, SO WITH THE 20 MILLION COME FROM AND HOW COME NOW IT'S 16, SAY THE 16 WAS THE NUMBER, WE HAVE NOT HAD THE NEWEST.
SO THE 16 WAS SOUNDS LIKE AN ORIGINAL NUMBER.
WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AT THIS STAGE, THAT 16 IS ENOUGH, BUT HAS ANYONE SPOKEN TO THE WATER AUTHORITY ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK THE COST WOULD BE? YEAH.
IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED WITH THE WATER AUTHORITY FOR THE LATEST AND GREATEST.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THAT DONE BECAUSE THAT'S A CRUCIAL DELIVERY SYSTEM THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO GET.
YOU KNOW, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE CARS GOING OVER THE BRIDGE, BUT WE HAVE THIS GREAT PIPE DELIVERING WATER TO US THAT, WE'LL, WE NEED MORE THAN THE CARS, QUITE FRANKLY.
WELL, AND, AND LET ME SPEAK TO THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT SO IT'S CLEAR.
UM, SO DOT IS BOUND WHEN THEY DO A PROJECT, THERE'S AN ACT CALLED ACT 36, WHICH DEFINES THE RELOCATIONS WITH TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
SO IF THERE'S, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THERE BETWEEN SMALL UTILITIES AND LARGE UTILITIES.
AND ESSENTIALLY THE PSD IS CONSIDERED A LARGE UTILITY.
AND WHAT THAT CALLS FOR, UM, IS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST GOES TOWARDS THEIR RELOCATION COSTS.
SO DEPENDING ON THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THAT AMOUNT IS PUT TOWARDS THE HELP THAT LARGE UTILITY RELOCATE THEIR WATER AND SEWER LINES.
SO THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS THIS.
SO TO YOUR POINT, IF THERE IS $16 MILLION ALLOCATED IN THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW, UM,
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AND IT COSTS $20 MILLION FOR EXAMPLE, IF, IF THAT'S THE 4.5%, THAT'S THE DOT AMOUNT THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT TOWARDS THAT RELOCATION.SO THAT DELTA, AGAIN, THIS WAS A DISCUSSION THAT, UM, WE HAD IN COLUMBIA AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND PROJECTS ACROSS THE STATE HAVE ADDRESSED THAT IN VARIOUS WAYS.
BUT ONE WAY IS IF THERE'S, UH, THE, THE UTILITY WILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, THE GAP IN FUNDING, OR IF THERE'S AN INTEREST FROM THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY WHO'S SPONSORING A PROJECT, THEY CAN COORDINATE WITH THAT.
BUT THE STATE WOULD BE BOUND IN THE PROJECT FOR THAT FOUR POINT A HALF PERCENT.
UH, I JUST HAVE ONE, UH, OTHER QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THE DISCUSSION OF BRIDGE ONLY, UM, ALL THE WAY ACROSS FROM WEST CREEK TO WINDMILL HARBOR IN THE EASTBOUND LANES FROM THE ENTRANCE OF WINDMILL HARBOR TO JENKINS ISLAND ROAD, THERE'S THREE LANES IN THE EASTBOUND LANE AND THE WESTBOUND IS ONLY TWO.
BUT I LIKE WHAT WAS SAID WITH REGARD TO AN, UH, CREATING A PARALLEL ROAD TO CREATE ABILITIES TO COME ON AND OFF THE WESTBOUND LANE AND ALSO TO REACH THE UNDERPASS BETWEEN BLUE HERON AND MARIUS CO.
THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL VERY GOOD.
IF THIS CONTINUES AND WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO GO TO SPANISH WELLS, THE, THE AREA THAT NEEDS ATTENTION WILL ALSO BE OUTSIDE WINDLOW HARBOR.
BUT WHAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED ALREADY LOOKS GOOD.
BUT AS WE GET TO JENKINS ISLAND ROAD AND THE EASTBOUND LANE, THERE'S ONLY TWO LANES NOW.
I HEARD THE PLAN WOULD BE THREE LANES EASTBOUND UNTIL YOU GET TO SQUIRE POKER, IT OPENS UP TO SEVEN ON BOTH SIDES.
THE WESTBOUND WOULD STILL STAY TWO LANES.
SO EVEN IF IT WENT ALL THE WAY TO SPANISH ROLLS ROAD, YOU WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE, THE EASTBOUND LANE WOULD EXPAND TO THREE AND TAKE AWAY THE, THE, UM, CHARLES, WHAT'S THAT CALLED? THAT LANE WHERE YOU COME OFF WHEN YOU COME OUT AND GET ON? I'VE LOST THE WORD LARGE LANE.
THE WHAT? ACCELERATION? YEAH, THE ACCELERATION LANE.
THAT'S ALREADY THREE LANES WITH, IF THAT IS THERE, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH, WITH EXPANDING IT.
BUT ONCE YOU GET TO, TO JENKINS ISLAND AND GO TO SQUARE POPE, THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO EXCEPT NORTH TO THE MEDIAN.
BUT THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE THREE LANES THERE, BUT ONLY TWO IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.
AND ALL THE WAY TO SPANISH WELLS AND ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE BRIDGE, TWO LANES WEST AND THREE LANES EAST? THAT'S CORRECT.
CLEAR ON THAT? THAT'S CORRECT.
IF THAT'S, IF IT GOES THAT FAR, IF IT STOPS AT, AT HEINRICH CIRCLE, I UNDERSTAND THERE'LL BE SOME ALTERATIONS THERE THAT LOOK FAVORABLE WITH THAT OPTION.
THE, THE ONLY OPTION THAT HAS ANY WESTBOUND IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE TWO LANES THE THREE LANES IS THE $500 MILLION OPTION WITH THE FULL PROJECT.
THAT'S THE ONLY TO IMPROVE THE WEST SIDE.
THAT'S THE ONLY OPTION THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOARD TODAY THAT WILL HAVE WESTBOUND IMPROVEMENTS OPTIONS ONE THROUGH FOUR.
WHEN IF IT GOES TO SPANISH WELLS EASTBOUND, IT'LL BE THREE LANES CORRECT? MERGE, WELL, FRONT WINDMILL HARBOR WILL HAVE IT ALREADY.
IT'S REALLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT TENTHS OF MILE FROM JACKSON.
WELL, LET ME, UM, HELP CLARIFY ON OPTION ONE AND TWO.
SO OPTION TWO ONE AND TWO IS THE BRIDGE ONLY.
IN THAT SCENARIO, THE ONLY ROADWORK IS TO TIE IT BACK IN TO WHERE IT'S OFF ALIGNMENT TO GET IT BACK ONTO ALIGNMENT, BUT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, ON THE MOSS CREEK SIDE AND THE, THE HILTON HEAD SIDE IS STILL TWO LANES.
SO THAT THREE LANE BRIDGE STRUCTURE IN OPTION ONE AND TWO IS BUILT TO CARRY THREE LANES WITH SHOULDERS, BUT IT WOULD BE STRIPED AS TWO LANES AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PROJECT.
THEN IF THERE IS AN EVENTUAL, THERE'S LEFTOVER FUNDS AND WE WANT TO DO ANOTHER LOCAL PROJECT AND CONTINUE OUT, IF AT THAT TIME THAT INVOLVES A THIRD EASTBOUND LANE, THEN THE BRIDGE CAN BE RES STRIPPED, THE TWO LANES CAN BE REMOVED AND RETRIED AS THREE, THREE LANES.
YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION OPTION ONE AND TWO INCLUDE THE WORK, UH, AT HEINRICH CIRCLE? YES.
UH, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
UM, TO ME THE, THE BEAUTY OF THE THREE LANES IS THAT YOU HAVE A BREAK BREAKDOWN LANE.
YOU'RE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE FROM WHEN WE DO HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THE, THE ENDS AT THE WIDTH THAT THEY NEED TO BE, THAT AREN'T PART OF THE BRIDGE PROJECT, AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN OPTION ONE AND TWO.
UM, JUST TALK BRIEFLY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WEST BRIDGE, THE WEST LANE WESTBOUND.
WHEN WOULD THAT, WHEN DO THEY THINK WE NEED TO PLAN TO GET THAT DONE? SO, SO THOSE BRIDGES WERE BUILT IN THE SEVENTIES.
THE WESTBOUND, A TYPICAL BRIDGE LIKE WESTBOUND IS, IS UM, 75 YEARS OLD.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, THE, THE ONE BRIDGE THAT WE HAVE THAT'S IN DISREPAIR WAS BUILT IN THE FIFTIES AND WE'RE ESSENTIALLY AT 75 YEARS.
UM, SO IF YOU USE THE MATH, IT COULD BE 20
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TO 30 YEARS, UM, BEFORE IT REACHES A SIMILAR STATE OF NEED OF REPLACEMENT.NOW, IF IT GETS, UH, PRIORITIZED AND REPLACE THE HEAD OF THAT, IT COULD, UM, BUT ALSO KNOW THAT DOT, THE WAY THEY PRIORITIZES THAT 1 40, 1 14, 1 14, UM, WHICH IS A STANDARD THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW TO PRIORITIZE ROAD PROJECTS.
SO UNLESS IT MEETS CERTAIN METRICS, WHICH IN THIS CASE THE BRIDGE IS, IS ITS, UM, UH, PERFORMANCE METRICS, HOW IT'S PERFORMING IN THE FIELD AND LIVELIHOOD, THEN IT, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY MAKE THAT PRIORITIZED LIST OR AT LEAST NOT AS HIGH UP ON THE RANKING FOR FUNDING.
AND I'M GONNA ASK THE, THE BIG QUESTION.
IF, IF IT'S INSPECTED IN THE COMING YEAR AND IT FAILS, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT BRIDGE AND WHO, WHAT CANNOT BE DONE ON THAT BRIDGE ONCE THAT HAPPENS? SO THIS AGAIN IS TO REITERATE THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD ON THURSDAY.
UM, SECRETARY POWELL SAID IF IT IS LOAD RESTRICTED, SO IN THE EVENT THAT THAT ONE SPAN OVER THE NEXT YEAR GETS IDENTIFIED AND IT NEEDS TO BE LOAD RESTRICTED, THAT WOULD IMPAIR PALMETTO BREEZE BUSES, SCHOOL BUSES, AND 18 WHEELERS FROM CROSSING THAT SPAN.
AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE MEASURE OF LOAD RESTRICTION THAT'S BEING DESCRIBED.
I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF THE URGENCY AND THE FIRE AND EMERGENCY VEHICLE TRUCKS AND EMERGENCY VEHICLE FIRED TRUCKS AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
MAKE SURE I'M, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M PARAPHRASING APPROPRIATELY, SO THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR, I THINK THAT DESCRIBES THE URGENCY OF WHY, UM, THIS A DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE QUICKLY IN AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.
IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN IT BACK UP TO THE PUBLIC, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, I'LL SECOND THAT.
UM, IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AND ASK QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, WE NEED YOU TO SIGN THE SHEET AND COME FORWARD TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT.
LET ME ASK, UM, DID SENATOR DAVIS HAD A REPRESENTATIVE AT THIS MEETING HERE? HE DIDN'T.
HE WAS INTENDED TO COME, BUT HE GOT CAUGHT ON THE SENATE FLOOR ON A DIFFERENT BILL AND WAS UNABLE TO COME, BUT, UM, I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO WITH HIM SINCE.
BUT WE ESSENTIALLY TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, THE DIFFERENT PROPOSAL THAT HE HAD LAID OUT WITH THE INFORMATION THAT DOT PROVIDED.
SO YOU THINK HE'S AWARE OF THESE? I'M I'M SURE HE IS.
AND WHAT DOES DDT HAS COME UP WITH? I, I THINK SO.
WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE HE HAS ALL THE SAME INFORMATION, UM, THAT I SHARED WITH COUNSEL, BUT I'M PRETTY POSITIVE THAT HE'S, AND THERE'S GONNA BE A JOINT MEETING WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ON THE 12TH.
THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S THE PLAN WHICH JUST CAME AROUND.
AND WE'LL, THAT WILL BE BOTH, UM, TOWN OF HILTON HEAD AND BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL TO FURTHER DISCUSS, UM, I KNOW THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD HAD A LOT OF EXCELLENT QUESTIONS LAST WEEK AND GOT A LOT OF, UM, GOOD ANSWERS, WHICH SOME OF 'EM WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, UH, THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE FURTHER, UH, AT THAT WORKSHOP TOO.
SINCE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, WE HAD, UM, MELINDA TONER TO SPEAK NEXT AND WE'LL, AGAIN, THE RULE, YOU KNOW, OUR THREE MINUTE, THREE MINUTE RULE,
UM, MELINDA TONER, UH, REPRESENTING WARD SIX ON TOWN COUNCIL FOR HILTON HEAD.
UM, AND MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, UM, A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE AS YOU TALKED ABOUT THE LIFELINE BRIDGE AND THE COMMENT WAS THAT IT COULD BE USED AS A FOUR LANE BRIDGE WHEN THE WESTBOUND BRIDGE IS REPLACED.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO ROOM TO BUILD A WESTBOUND PARALLEL BRIDGE 20 TO 30 YEARS FROM NOW, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND ANY KIND OF RAMIFICATION ABOUT A DECISION, UH, THAT'S BEING MADE TODAY.
UH, AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT WOULD BE HAPPENING WHEN THE WESTBOUND BRIDGE IS REPLACED.
I HOPE THAT QUESTION MAKES SENSE.
SO THE IDEA BEHIND THAT IS THE WESTBOUND WHEN THEY WOULD BE REPLACED IS THEY WOULD BE REPLACED SIMILAR ALIGNMENT TO WHERE THEY ARE NOW, OR IN THE EXISTING EASTBOUND ALIGNMENT WHERE THOSE BRIDGES CURRENTLY ARE.
THAT HELPS TO REDUCE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECTS.
YOU'RE USING A SIMILAR FOOTPRINT, YOU, YOU'RE NOT IMPACTING NEW AREAS, BUT YOU'RE ALSO NOT IMPACTING NEW AREAS WHEN YOU TIE IT BACK IN ON EACH END AS
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WELL.SO USING THAT FOOTPRINT, IT, IT HELPS.
AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE FOUR LANES TO CROSS THE TRAFFIC OVER ALLOWS FOR LESS DISRUPTIONS TO THE TRAVELING PUBLIC IF YOU HAD TO STAGE THAT BRIDGE TO BE REPLACED.
SO TYPICALLY WE WOULD LOOK AT EITHER ON ALIGNMENT, STAGE ALIGNMENT OR OFF ALIGNMENT.
SO, UM, ON ALIGNMENT'S TYPICALLY THE LEAST IMPACTFUL ALTERNATIVE THAN THEN IT WOULD BE STAGED THEN OFF ALIGNMENT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO UTILIZE THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY ON, UH, PINKNEY ISLAND.
UM, ASHLEY PHILLIPS, YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS AND ASK A QUESTION WHICHEVER YOU WANT TO.
UM, ASHLEY PHILLIPS, HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
UM, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION REGARDING THE GREEN EASTBOUND SECTION FROM PINKNEY ISLAND.
UH, HOW, WHAT, WHAT TIME, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE LEFT ON THAT SECTION OF THE BRIDGE WHERE THEY WANT TO USE TO GO TO PINKNEY ISLAND? THE, THE ONE THAT'S LABELED GREEN NOW RETAIN EASTBOUND SKULL CREEK BRIDGE TO ALLOW FOR TWO-WAY TRAFFIC.
HOW, WHAT KIND OF TIME DO WE HAVE LEFT ON THAT SECTION OF BRIDGE? UM, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE 75 YEAR LIFELINE, 25 AND 30 YEARS FOR THAT SECTION ALSO.
SO ALL, ALL THREE OF THE OTHER BRIDGES WERE BUILT AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THE EASTBOUND MACKEY CREEK IS THE ORIGINAL BRIDGE.
OKAY, ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM, UM, SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FINAL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN TODAY FOR THIS.
IT'S, AND THEN MIKE AND JARED, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS? I THINK WE KNOW THE NEXT STEPS BESIDES THE NEXT MEETING, JOINT MEETING.
SO WE'LL, UM, WE WE'RE, WE'LL WORK WITH THE TOWN ON, ON SETTING UP THE NEXT MEETING, BUT AS WE NOTE IN THE, UM, IN THE SUMMARY OF THE MEETING, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A JOINT, UM, RESOLUTION.
SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL WOULD LIKE STAFF TO START WORKING ON, WE WILL START WORKING ON THAT.
UM, AND I KNOW JARED'S ALREADY BEGUN A DRAFT, UM, WE ALSO HEARD SOME SENSE OF WHERE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ON THE OPTIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL GONNA NEED TO GET A SENSE WHERE WE ARE TODAY ON, ON WHICH OF THE OPTIONS AND IF THERE'S AN OPTION THAT INCLUDES THAT.
IF, IF COUNCIL PREFERS AN OPTION WHERE THERE'S MORE COSTS AND THERE'S FUNDING AVAILABLE, THEN STAFF WOULD HAVE TO GO LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR TO, FOR THE FUNDING TO FILL THAT GAP.
AND BARETT IN MIND, WE STILL HAVE THE DEADLINE, SO I JUST, I POINT ALL THAT OUT TO SAY THESE ARE THINGS THAT STAFF WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT, UM, BETWEEN NOW AND OBVIOUSLY GETTING A RESOLUTION TO GET TO BACK TO DOT AND TO THE SIP.
OF COURSE AT THIS MEETING WE CAN'T, YOU CAN'T REALLY, WE CAN'T VOTE.
BUT I, I DIDN'T HEAR ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHERE WE WOULD FIND THE EXTRA MONEY, UM, CORRECT TO DO.
AND I KNOW SOME EXPRESSED OPINIONS ON WHICH OPTIONS PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT, WHERE WE'RE NOT FULLY FUNDED, SO.
I THINK, UM, WE'RE HEARING PROPOSAL ONE AND TWO DESIGN BUILD ARE, ARE OPTIONS AND FIVE AND SIX AND FIVE AND SIX, BUT FIVE AND SIX TAKE MORE MONEY.
UM, WELL, SIX DOESN'T, BUT I'M NOT SURE SIX IS REALISTIC, UM, FOR THE COUNTY, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
IF YOU COULD BRING BACK THE SPREADSHEET.
I THINK MR. PASSMAN SAID THREE AND FOUR, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, WHEN WAS THE NEXT MEETING SCHEDULED FOR? FEBRUARY 12TH.
MR. PM THAT'S A JOINT, UH, JOINT MEETING WORK SESSION WITH BUCK WATER REC CENTER TOWN AND, AND COUNTY COUNCIL.
WHERE IS THAT AT THE TOWN, MIKE, THAT'S GONNA BE BUCK WALTER, BUCK WALTER BRO.
CENTER BUCK WALTER IS WHAT WE SCHEDULED NOW.
ARE ANY OTHER LAST COMMENTS ANYONE? NO, WE'RE GOOD.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA WEIGH IN ON ANY OH, I THINK THERE'S, SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO ASK A WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION AND OKAY.
IF YOU JUST NEED YOU TO SIGN, SIGN.
SO WE, SORRY, I COULDN'T SEE THE, UH, OKAY.
I WONDERED IF YOU HAD A COMMENT FOR US,
FOR FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER CLIFF.
UM, ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE NOTES THAT JARED AND AND SEAN HAVE PUT TOGETHER? YES, THEY WILL BE PART OF THE, UH, PACKAGE FROM THE MEETING TODAY.
SECOND QUESTION OF MAY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A JOINT RESOLUTION, I PRESUME YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS, WHICH HAVE TO BE, UH, DISCUSSED WITH THE
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PUBLIC.THEY'D BE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC.
AND SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING, FEBRUARY THE 12TH, THAT'S A WORKSHOP.
AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT TO S-C-D-O-T AND SIP BY 31ST OF MARCH OR BEFORE? HOPEFULLY BEFORE.
AND, AND SO A LOT OF INTERESTED PEOPLE HAVE CALENDARS.
HOW ARE WE GONNA DO IT
THAT'S WHY HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A DRAFT OF THE RESOLUTION FOR BOTH COUNCILS TO LOOK AT AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS JARED AND MR. MOORE, JERRY ICKS AND MR. MOORE CAN GET THAT DONE.
UH, I WOULD LIKE MAKE ONE FINAL COMMENT AT THE LAST, UH, WORKSHOP OF THE TOWN, UH, A MEMBER OF COUNCIL, UH, REFERRED TO A SURVEY CONDUCTED IN SEA PINES, WHICH AS WE ALL KNOW IS A PRIVILEGED COMMUNITY.
I LIVE THERE AND EXTRAPOLATED FROM THAT TO SUGGEST THAT THAT WAS TYPICAL THAT RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD ALL WERE IN LOVE WITH LEISURE TRAILS AND BIKES.
UM, THE, THE TOWN RECRUITED A CONSULTANT, AN EXCELLENT CONSULTANT.
I THINK IT WAS MKSK ALAN AND THE SENIOR CONSULTANT, UH, WHEN THE MULTI-USE PATH WAS PRESENTED.
AND FRANK ABEL KNOWS HIS FULL WELL 'CAUSE HE WAS A, HE SAID IT'S A PATH FROM NOWHERE TO NOWHERE.
SECONDLY, IT'S ON HILTON HILTON HEAD.
IT'S EIGHT MILES FROM THE TOURIST CENTER.
HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO GET THERE? YOU WOULD NEED A TRAILHEAD AT BOTH ENDS AND, AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA CONNECT TO, AND YOU ALSO MADE THE COMMENT, IT'S A FALSE HUD TO COMPARE IT WITH RAVENEL BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO RAVENEL AND I GO OVER THERE A LOT AT EITHER END OF RAVENEL ARE TWO HUGE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES IN WHICH THE AVERAGE AGE IS SUBSTANTIAL LESS THAN THE AVERAGE AGE OF HILTON HEAD.
IN OTHER WORDS, THIS MULTI-USE PATH HAS BEEN PROMULGATED BY THE, THE COMMERCIAL INTEREST ON HILTON HEAD.
AND THE ADVOCATES FOR BIKES ARE IN HAND IN HAND WITH THEM.
AND IT'S, IT'S A TOURIST ISSUE.
IT'S NOT A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.
AND FOR 55 MILLION THERE ARE PEOPLE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TO, TO SEWERS.
THEY DON'T HAVE ASPHALT ROADS, THEY'RE ON WELLS.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING 55 MILLION OF TAXPAYERS FUNDS ON A MULTI-USE PATH.
I THINK IT'S 70 MILLION, CORRECT? FOR THE MULTI-USE PATH.
NOW EVERY TIME IT GETS MENTIONED IT GETS WORSE.
I RIDE 10 TO 15 MILES A DAY AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, YOU VERY SELDOM SEE A RESIDENT ON THE BIKE, WHATEVER FRANK SAYS.
THEY'RE ALL ON THESE, UH, BEACH CRUISERS, WHICH ARE NIGHTMARES RIDE.
WELL THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT AND YOUR QUESTION.
UM, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? YOU WANNA COME FORWARD? YOU'VE ALREADY SIGNED IN.
WELL, WE HAVE, UM, CRAIG HERE AND S-C-D-O-T-I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, ON OPTION ONE, WHY THERE ARE TWO BREAKDOWN LANES AND WHY BOTH BREAKDOWN LANES ARE 10 FEET WIDE.
WHAT'S THE NECESSITY FOR THAT? IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN, UM, IN LISTENING TO OUR RESIDENTS WHO WANT A SMALLER FOOTPRINT LESS IMPACT, WHY DO WE HAVE, WHAT'S THE NEED FOR TWO 10 FOOT BRAKE LAND LANES? CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT? UNDERSTANDING THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING ABOUT WHEN THESE NEW OPTIONS CAME OUT.
SO THE, THE 10 FOOT BREAKDOWN LANES ARE TIED TO THE, UM, CRITERIA, DESIGN CRITERIA FOR THE ROAD THAT'S GIVEN TO US BY, YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF OUR DESIGN MANUAL MM-HMM
SO SHOULDERS ARE PART OF FH W'S CONTROLLING CRITERIA.
SO IT'S ONE SOMETHING THEY WOULD REVIEW.
SO IF WE WERE TO REDUCE IT, WE'VE GOTTA PROVE THAT IT'S NOT A SAFETY HAZARD TO THE, TO FEDERAL HIGHWAYS.
SO YOU KNOW, IT'S CLASSIFIED AT, YOU KNOW, AT THAT RATE IT NEEDS TO HAVE TWO 10 FOOT SHOULDERS.
NOW WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE BRIDGE, WE DID LOOK AT POTENTIALLY DOING SIX FOOT SHOULDERS AND, BUT WE HAD AN ADDITIONAL LANE AS WELL FOR THAT.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE OF IT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE PUTTING OUT THIS IS WHAT THE FOUR CRITERIA IS FOR THE BIDS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S TIME CONSUMING TO WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BUT FRONT OF THE HIGHWAYS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH YOUR, YOUR TRAFFIC DATA AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC DATA, THERE IS ACCIDENTS ON THE BRIDGE.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO GO.
SO HAVING THAT 10 FOOT LANE ON EITHER SIDE HELPS TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC MOVING.
MM-HMM
SO IF WE DID, IF WE DID GET RID OF THE 10 FOOT SHOULDER, THERE'S POTENTIALLY, WE'RE NOT HAVE ENOUGH WIDTH TO DO THE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC AS WELL.
OH, SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE EVALUATED AS WELL FOR THOSE THINGS AS YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
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THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.THERE'S A NATURAL RESOURCE MEETING AT UM, FOUR O'CLOCK AND IT WILL BE IN THE UM, ROOM NEXT DOOR.
DID YOU GET A CALL OR MESSAGE THAT MENTIONED SOCIAL SECURITY THAT MADE YOU FEEL THREATENED OR SCARED? THAT IS NOT THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION.
SOCIAL SECURITY WILL NOT THREATEN YOU, PRESS YOU FOR PERSONAL INFORMATION OR DEMAND INSTANT PAYMENT.
SOCIAL SECURITY DOES NOT ACCEPT PAYMENTS BY GIFT CARD, PREPAID DEBIT CARD, INTERNET CURRENCY, OR BY MAILING CASH.
CRIMINALS USE THESE FORMS OF PAYMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE HARD TO TRACE TO TRACE.
REPORT THIS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY TO OIG.SSA.GOV PRODUCED AT US TAXPAYER EXPENSE.
BEAUFORT COUNTY DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS DEPARTMENT PROVIDES A VARIETY OF SERVICES AND PROGRAMS TO INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AS WELL AS THEIR FAMILIES.
EARLY INTERVENTION, ADULT DAY PROGRAMS, RESIDENTIAL AND INDEPENDENT LIVING AND RESPITE CARE.
EVEN A SUMMER CAMP FOR YOUNG CHILDREN, ONE IN FOUR AMERICANS HAVE SOME FORM OF DISABILITY.
IF SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY COULD BENEFIT FROM THESE SERVICES, CONTACT DSN TODAY.
BEAUFORT COUNTY DSN CHANGES DISABILITIES INTO POSSIBILITIES.
VISIT BEAUFORT COUNTY ESC.GOV AND CLICK ON DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS MILTON BOSWELL.
I AM THE DEPUTY ASSESSOR OF BEAVER COUNTY.
IN THIS VIDEO I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HOW TO USE THE REAL PROPERTY FUNCTIONS IN PROPERTY.
MAX REAL PROPERTY REFERS TO ANYTHING THAT THE ASSESSOR VALUES SUCH AS LAND BUILDINGS, MOBILE HOMES, OR CONDOMINIUMS. WE HAVE A LINK TO PROPERTY MAX LOCATED ON THE HOMEPAGE OF THE ASSESSOR'S WEBSITE AS WELL AS ON THE MAINE COUNTY WEBPAGE UNDER ONLINE SERVICES.
SO WITH THAT, LET'S GET STARTED.
AFTER YOU CLICK ON PROPERTY MAX, YOU'LL SEE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS AVAILABLE.
CLICK REAL PROPERTY SEARCHING BY OWNER NAME IS THE DEFAULT SEARCH METHOD.
YOU ENTER THE LAST NAME FIRST, FOLLOWED BY A SPACE AND THEN THE UH, FIRST INITIAL.
SO IN THIS EXAMPLE, SO YOU WOULD ENTER IT LIKE THAT AND THEN CLICK GO.
OTHER WAYS TO SEARCH WOULD BE BY PROPERTY ID OR ALTERNATE ID USING THE INFORMATION FOUND ON EITHER A TAX BILL OR AN ASSESSMENT NOTICE.
YOU MAY ALSO SEARCH BY THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION SHOWN HERE.
A HELPFUL TIP WOULD BE TO USE AN ASTERISK THEN PART OF THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION SUCH AS CEDAR CREST.
YOU WOULD CLICK LEGAL DESCRIPTION AND THEN AN ASTERISK AND THEN CEDAR CREST AND IT'LL TAKE IT A FEW MOMENTS, BUT THAT'S THE BEST WAY THAT I'VE FOUND.
IF YOU SEARCH BY LEGAL DESCRIPTION, NOW THE MOST COMMON WAY TO SEARCH OTHER THAN OWNER'S NAME IS BY STREET ADDRESS SHOWN HERE.
SO YOU WOULD PUT IN JUST THE FIRST STREET ADDRESS AND THEN NAME AND CLICK GO.
YOU'LL BE TAKEN TO THE OVERVIEW TAB.
ONCE THE PROPERTY INFORMATION HAS BEEN RETRIEVED, WHICH INCLUDES VALUES AND TAX INFORMATION, PLEASE NOTE THE DATE THAT THE DATA WAS REFRESHED AND MOVING DOWN IS THE PARCEL TAB, WHICH DISPLAYS CURRENT ASSESSMENT INFORMATION INCLUDING APPRAISED VALUES, TAXABLE VALUES, AND THE ASSESSMENT RATIO SHOWN HERE.
NOTE THAT 2020 IS UH, BLANK BECAUSE WE ARE NOT IN THAT TAX CYCLE YET.
THE LAND TAB DISPLAYS BASIC LAND ATTRIBUTES SUCH AS UH, ACREAGE OR SQUARE FOOTAGE IF WE HAVE IT IN THE SYSTEM.
THE IMPROVEMENTS TAB DISPLAYS BUILDING FEATURES SUCH AS SIZE AND YEAR BUILD.
CLICKING ON VIEW DETAILS WILL DISPLAY A SKETCH OF THE IMPROVEMENT AND IF YOU CLICK ON THAT IT WILL ENLARGE.
THE SALES DISCLOSURE TAB DISPLAYS DETAILS OF OWNERSHIP TRANSFERS SUCH AS THE SALE DATE, THE SALE AMOUNT, AND THE DE BOOKING PAGE.
VALUE HISTORY SHOWS THE LAND AND IMPROVEMENT VALUES FOR EACH TAX YEAR.
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GIS MAPPING OPENS A NEW WINDOW SHOWING WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED.YOU JUST CLICK OKAY AND IT ZOOMS IN.
THE FINAL FEATURE OF PROPERTY MAX THAT I WILL SHOW YOU IS SEARCH BY SALES.
THIS WILL ALLOW YOU TO FIND SALES INFORMATION BASED ON FILTERS THAT YOU CREATE.
A HELPFUL TIP WOULD BE TO KEEP THE FILTERS AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE SO THAT YOU GET THE MOST RETURNS IN THE FOLLOWING EXAMPLE, I WILL SET FILTERS TO FIND THE 2019 SALES FOR CEDAR CREST SUBDIVISION THAT SOLD BETWEEN $60,000 AND $300,000.
SO FIRST YOU WOULD SET THE LOW SALES PRICE TO ONE ONE 2019.
YOU WOULD SET THE HIGH TO 1231 2019.
UH, SET THE LOW SALE PRICE TO 60, WHICH IS A DEFAULT, AND THEN SET THE HIGH SALES PRICE TO 300,000.
NOW IF YOU SCROLL DOWN, YOU HAVE OTHER WAYS THAT YOU CAN FILTER THIS, BUT I'M GONNA DO THIS BY NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO YOU WOULD SCROLL DOWN HERE AND THEN THEY IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.
SO I'M GOING TO SCROLL DOWN TO CEDAR CREST AND THEN YOU WOULD CLICK GO.
AND THIS GIVES YOU THE RETURNS OF EVERYTHING THAT'S SOLD AND TAGS YOUR 19 IN THAT PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION.
THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN SEARCH FOR SALE, SO EXPERIMENT WITH IT, YOU CAN'T BREAK IT.
I HOPE YOU FOUND THIS VIDEO INFORMATIVE AND THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
WELCOME TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA'S ONLY GOLD LEVEL BICYCLE COMMUNITY.
AS YOU'VE OBSERVED, ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR ACTIVITIES IS TO GET AROUND ON BIKE.
WHILE YOU'RE HERE, LET ME FILL YOU IN ON SOME OF THE BASICS OF GETTING AROUND THE ISLAND ON BIKE.
IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING YOU SHOULD BE WEARING A BIKE HELMET AND IT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR CHILDREN 12 AND UNDER.
YOU'VE PROBABLY NOTICED WHAT YOU'D CALL SIDEWALKS.
YOU WANNA STAY OFF THE ROAD AND STAY ON THESE MULTI-USE PATHWAYS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
ALSO, NOTE THE MANY DRIVEWAYS AND INTERSECTIONS ALONG THE PATHWAY TO STOP AND YIELD SIGNS ARE MEANT FOR YOU.
THE BICYCLIST MAKE A POINT ACROSS THE STREET AT INTERSECTIONS, TRAFFIC LIGHTS OR CROSSWALKS AND BEFORE CROSSING INTERSECTIONS, BE SURE TO MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH THE MOTORIST.
IT'S BEST TO WALK YOUR BIKE ACROSS MAJOR INTERSECTIONS INSTEAD OF RIDING.
AND REMEMBER, OBEY THE SAME TRAFFIC RULES AS VEHICLES AND RIDE WITH TRAFFIC.
IF FOR SOME REASON YOU'RE BIKING ON THE ROAD WHEN IT INTERSECTIONS, PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE WALK.
AND REMEMBER, WE SHARE THE LEISURE PATHWAYS SO WHEN YOU'RE COMING UP BEHIND SOMEONE, ALERT THEM BY BELL OR VOICE SO THEY KNOW WHEN SOMEONE IS APPROACHING.
IF YOU NEED TO STOP ON THE PATHWAY, BE SURE TO MOVE OFF TO THE SIDE.
THERE ARE ALSO 30 PATHWAY KIOSKS WITH MAPS OF THE ISLANDS THAT WILL HELP DIRECT YOU ON YOUR RIDE.
AND PLEASE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL OUR TOWN PARKS THAT HAVE BIKE RACKS, RESTROOMS AND DRINKING MODES.
THESE CAN BE LOCATED ON THE KIOSK MAPS.
WE ALSO HAVE 12 PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS POINTS WHERE YOU CAN RIDE THE HARD PACKED BEACH AT LOW TIDE FOR A UNIQUE BIKE RIDE.
THANKS FOR WATCHING AND WE HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR STAY ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND FOR DECADES, I'VE TAUGHT YOU EVERYTHING.
I KNOW HOW TO SAFELY BUILD A FIRE, HOW TO CONTROL THE FLAMES.
I UH, WHAT TO DO WITH HOT COALS, HOW TO SECURE YOUR CHAINS SPARKS, BUT I CAN ONLY TEACH WILDFIRE PREVENTION.
ONLY YOU CAN PREVENT WILDFIRES.
I AM SARAH BROCK, CLERK TO COUNCIL FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL.
DID YOU KNOW BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS 29 ACTIVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SERVE A VITAL ROLE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND ALLOW CITIZENS LIKE YOU TO GET INVOLVED WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND ADVISE YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ON A WIDE RANGE OF ISSUES.
MEMBERS SERVE IN A VARIETY OF CAPACITIES FROM
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ADVISING COUNSEL REGARDING THE SELLING AND PURCHASING OF LAND HEARING APPEALS, ALLOCATING AT TAX MONIES, ADVOCATING FOR SPECIFIC ORGANIZATIONS WORKING ON STORM WATER RELATED ISSUES, ZONING ISSUES, DESIGN REVIEW, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, YOU NAME IT.VISIT WWW.BEAUFORTCOUNTYSC.GOV/COUNCIL/BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TODAY TO SEE A LIST OF OUR ACTIVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND FILL OUT AN APPLICATION.
SIGN UP TODAY SO YOU CAN HAVE A HAND IN MAKING OUR COMMUNITY EVEN GREATER THAN IT ALREADY IS.
THE EARTH IS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE.
NOT ONLY IS IT OUR HOME, BUT IT'S THE ONLY PLANET THAT SCIENTISTS KNOW OF WHERE LIFE EXISTS.
THE DIVERSITY OF LIFE ON EARTH IS AMAZING.
FROM MICROSCOPIC ALGAE TO CYPRESS TREES, FROM PROTOZOANS TO WORMS, TO EAGLES, MUSHROOMS AND BACTERIA.
THE KEYS TO LIFE ON EARTH ARE THE CLIMATE AND THE PRESENCE OF LIQUID WATER ALONG WITH THE RIGHT ORGANIC COMPOUNDS.
EARTH IS NOT TOO HOT, NOT TOO COLD.
IT'S DISTANCE FROM THE SUN AND ATMOSPHERE, KEEP TEMPERATURES MODERATE, ALLOWING WATER TO REMAIN LIQUID, WHICH IS ESSENTIAL FOR CELLULAR PROCESSES THAT SUPPORT LIFE TO TAKE PLACE.
RADIOMETRIC DATING INDICATES THAT THE EARTH IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 4.5 BILLION YEARS OLD.
IT'S CONSTANTLY UNDERGOING LARGE SCALE CHANGES DUE TO THE EFFECTS OF PLATE TECTONICS.
IT TAKES JUST OVER 365 DAYS FOR THE EARTH TO MAKE ONE REVOLUTION AROUND THE SUN AND IT TAKES 24 HOURS FOR THE EARTH TO ROTATE.
ONCE THE EARTH'S AXIS IS ALSO TILTED AT 23 DEGREES, WHICH CAUSES SEASONAL VARIATION IN WEATHER, PEOPLE HAVE LONG WONDERED IF THERE'S LIFE BEYOND OUR OWN PLANET.
OUR SEARCH FOR LIFE BEYOND EARTH FIRST REQUIRES SCIENTISTS TO FIND OTHER STARS THAT HAVE PLANETS REVOLVING AROUND THEM.
IN MOST CASES, THESE PLANETS ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND AND SEE.
SO SCIENTISTS LOOK FOR EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS A PLANET PRESENT WITHOUT EVER SEEING THE PLANET ITSELF.
ONE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO LOOK FOR STARS THAT ARE ROTATING IN A WAY THAT INDICATE THEY HAVE A PLANET REVOLVING AROUND THEM.
THIS IS A STAR THAT'S ROTATING WITHOUT A PLANET.
COMPARE THAT TO THIS STAR THAT'S ROTATING WITH A PLANET.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S MOVING VERY DIFFERENTLY, IT WOBBLES.
ANOTHER METHOD IS CALLED THE TRANSIT METHOD.
THIS REQUIRES THE PARENT STAR, THE EXOPLANET, AND THE EARTH TO LINE UP JUST RIGHT.
AS THE EXOPLANET ROTATES IN FRONT OF THE PARENT STAR, THE LIGHT WILL DIM JUST SLIGHTLY.
SCIENTISTS CAN LOOK FOR THIS SLIGHT DIMMING.
THE EASIEST PLANETS TO FIND ARE THE LARGEST AND SO FAR, MOST OF THE PLANETS DISCOVERED ARE LARGE JUPITER LIKE PLANETS THAT DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT CONDITIONS FOR SUPPORTING LIFE.
SCIENTISTS ARE LOOKING FOR PLANETS IN THE HABITABLE ZONE, ALSO KNOWN AS THE GOLDILOCK ZONE.
WHAT IS THE HABITABLE ZONE? IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE AND TEMPERATURE OF THE STAR, BUT IT'S THE REGION AROUND A STAR WHERE IT'S NOT TOO HOT, NOT TOO COLD, SO THAT WATER REMAINS IN A LIQUID STATE.
NASA'S KEPLER MISSION IS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO SEARCH OUR REGION OF THE GALAXY FOR EARTH-LIKE PLANETS USING A VERY POWERFUL TELESCOPE THAT'S FOCUSED ON SPACE AT A SMALL AREA WITHIN THE SUMMER TRIANGLE.
ALREADY THOUSANDS OF PLANETS HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED.
ONLY A HANDFUL, HOWEVER, HAVE THE RIGHT CONDITIONS TO POTENTIALLY HOST LIFE.
SCIENTISTS MUST STUDY THESE PLANETS IN MORE DETAIL, LOOKING AT SPEED OF ROTATION, ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS, AND WHETHER THERE'S ANY LIQUID WATER PRESENT.
THE EARTH IS A UNIQUE PLANET AMONG MANY, MANY OTHER PLANETS THAT WE'RE ONLY JUST BEGINNING TO DISCOVER.
THE CONDITIONS HERE ON EARTH HAVE LED TO THE EXISTENCE OF A DIVERSITY OF LIFE THAT IS JUST AMAZING.
NEXT TIME YOU'RE OUTSIDE ENJOYING OUR LIVING PLANET, TAKE A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT HOW THE PLACE WE LIVE REALLY MAY BE ONE IN A MILLION.
HELLO, I'M PAMELA HOLMES WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
TODAY I WILL GIVE YOU THE STEPS ON HOW TO APPLY FOR YOUR LEGAL RESIDENCE EXEMPTION.
FIRST, YOU WILL GO TO OUR BEAUFORT COUNTY WEBSITE,
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WHICH IS WWW.BEAUFORTCOUNTYSC.GOV.YOU WILL FOLLOW ALONG WITH ME.
HARRIS IS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY WEBSITE HOMEPAGE.
YOU WILL THEN SELECT GOVERNMENT.
THEN GO OVER TO THE ASSESSOR HERE, YOU'LL COME TO OUR HOMEPAGE.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, YOU ARE NOW ABLE TO APPLY FOR YOUR LEGAL RESIDENCE EXEMPTION.
YOU CAN DO THAT BY APPLYING TWO SEPARATE WAYS.
PLEASE BE REMINDED THAT BOTH WAYS REQUIRES THE SAME DOCUMENTS.
FIRST, WE WILL GO OVER APPLYING THROUGH THE LINK.
THERE IS OUR ONLINE APPLICATION.
THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU WILL NEED IS YOUR SOUTH CAROLINA DRIVER'S LICENSE, YOUR SOUTH CAROLINA VEHICLE REGISTRATION.
THE ADDRESS ON BOTH OF THOSE DOCUMENTS MUST REFLECT THE ADDRESS ON THE PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE APPLYING FOR.
WE WILL ALSO NEED YOUR MOST RECENTLY FILED TAX RETURN.
IF THE PROPERTY IS ALSO IN A TRUST, WE WILL NEED TO REVIEW THE TRUST.
HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE MILITARY, YOU HAVE SEPARATE DOCUMENTS THAT WE WILL NEED.
YOU WILL ONLY NEED TO PROVIDE US YOUR LES, YOUR PCS, AND YOUR MILITARY ID FOR YOU AND YOUR SPOUSE.
NOW LET'S BEGIN LOOKING AT THE APPLICATION.
IF YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD SELECT THE YEAR THAT YOU'RE APPLYING.
YOU WILL HAVE YOUR PARCEL ID NUMBER, ALSO KNOWN AS YOUR A IN NUMBER.
YOU CAN INPUT YOUR ALTERNATE ID NUMBER, ALSO KNOWN AS THE A IN NUMBER, INPUT YOUR PROPERTY ADDRESS.
THIS IS ALTERNATE LOT, WHICH IS MEANING THAT'S YOUR CONTIGUOUS LOT, MEANING THE LOTS ARE TOUCHING.
YOU CAN ALSO APPLY FOR THAT LOT.
ALSO, IF YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER, PUT THAT IN AND YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND FILL OUT THE INFORMATION AS IT STANDS HERE.
OWNER'S NAME, WHETHER YOU'RE MARRIED, SINGLE, SEPARATED, SO FORTH AND SO ON.
WE DO REQUIRE THE LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, CELL PHONE NUMBER.
AND PLEASE MAKE SURE WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING IN YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS THAT YOU DOUBLE CHECK THE EMAIL BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS WE WILL MAKE CONTACT BACK TO YOU.
YOU WILL GET A CONFIRMATION THAT THE APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED.
WE'LL NEED THE MAILING ADDRESS.
WE'LL NEED YOUR SPOUSE'S INFORMATION.
IF YOU'RE LEGALLY MARRIED, WE WILL NEED THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE AS LONG AS YOU'RE LEGALLY MARRIED IN SOUTH CAROLINA, YOU'RE CONSIDERED TO BE ONE ENTITY.
REGARDLESS IF YOUR SPOUSE NAME IS ON THE PROPERTY OR NOT.
YOU WILL THEN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS HERE.
AS YOU SEE THE QUESTIONS ARE SIMPLY YES OR NO.
SELECT ALL OF THE ANSWER THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO YOU.
ONCE YOU GET TO THE END OF THE APPLICATION, YOU WILL THEN NEED TO UPLOAD YOUR DOCUMENTS.
SO YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOUR DOCUMENTS ARE SOMEWHERE THAT YOU CAN GO IN AND YOU CAN UPLOAD THAT DOCUMENTS.
SELECT THE DISCLAIMER THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT YOU'RE SUBMITTING.
AND THEN ONCE YOU SUBMIT THIS APPLICATION, YOU WILL THEN RECEIVE A CONFIRMATION FROM OUR OFFICE LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THE APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED.
THAT'S THE END OF THE ONLINE APPLICATION.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN ALSO APPLY BY USING THE HARD COPY.
GO BACK TO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE HOMEPAGE.
YOU'LL SCROLL OVER TO OUR FORMS. ONCE THERE, IT IS THE FIRST FORM THAT SAYS PDF LEGAL RESIDENCE EXEMPTION APPLICATION.
YOU WILL SIMPLY JUST PRINT THIS APPLICATION OUT, FILL IT OUT, COPY YOUR DOCUMENTS SO AT THIS TIME YOU CAN SUBMIT YOUR FORM.
ALL DOCUMENTS MAY BE SUBMITTED BY MAIL, FAX, OR HAND DELIVERED.
MY MAILING ADDRESS IS PO BOX 1 2 2 8 BUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA 2 9 9 0 1, FAX NUMBER, 8 4 3 2 5 5 9 4 0 4.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THIS TIME WITH YOU.
WE CAN BE REACHED AT 8 4 3 2 5 5 2400 IS OUR MAIN OFFICE NUMBER.
YOU CAN EMAIL OUR OFFICE AT ASSESSOR@BCGOV.NET OR THROUGH THE CITIZEN GRAHAM.