8. Secession LI Development Partners, LLC are requesting a Variance from the OCRM Critical Line River Buffer. The property is located at 110 Wilderness Drive E, Lady’s Island. The property is zoned Gibbes Island Planned Unit Development (PUD).

[8. Secession LI Development Partners, LLC are requesting a Variance from the OCRM Critical Line River Buffer. The property is located at 110 Wilderness Drive E, Lady’s Island. The property is zoned Gibbes Island Planned Unit Development (PUD).]

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ASSISTANT LADIES ALL AVAILABLE PARTNERS LADIES OUT OF DEVELOPER FINAL BREAK. YES, TROY MILLION REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

THE REQUEST IS FOR A BUILDING SETBACK VARIANCE TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON A PRIVATE LOT. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES.

WHY DID YOU PUSH IT SO CLOSE TO THE MARSH IN THE FRONT, SIR IS ONLY 12 FEET.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUSHING IT BACK. IT'S BACK TO THE REAR OF THE LOT WHEN IT COULD BE BROUGHT A LOT FORWARD. FORWARD IT PROBABLY HAS TO DO WITH HELP LINE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY SORRY IT'S BEEN A LITTLE OFF SINCE IT'S IT BUT I THINK THE LINE COMES IN NEAR THE WHERE THE DRIVEWAY COMES INTO THE PARK OVER THE PLACE BUT SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE I GUESS THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AREA SO BE CONSTRUCTIVE YOUR OWN BUT IT ALSO SEEMS LIKE THAT THE MORE SIGNIFICANT MARCHES ARE TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT'S A PLATTED LOT NEXT DOOR THAT HAS YES SO I MEAN THIS IS IT COULD MOVE CLOSER TO THE STREET I THINK IT WOULD BE YEAH NOT AS EGREGIOUS OKAY YEAH LOOK THAT DID Y'ALL WANT TO SEE THESE IS THE AREA SO SAY DID YOU SAY YOU WAS IN A GREEN SO MOVING IT CLOSER MOVING IT FORWARD YEAH I MEAN THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE I THINK THE REQUEST IS JUST FOR IF WE

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MOVED IT FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE THAT IT WAS 25 FEET FROM THAT OR SO THAT WOULD GIVE THEM PLENTY OF ROOM TO PARK MAKE A WAY TO PULL THAT UP ON THIS SO THE CRITICAL LINE IS UP FRONT THAT'S IT'S A WAIVER FROM WHAT IS BACK HERE TO YES BUT THIS IS A PROCESS SEE IT COMES ALL THE WAY INTO THE LONG RIGHT BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHEN YOU BRING THE HOUSE DOWN BUT THIS IS THIS IS SEEMS LIKE THE WALK BECAUSE THAT'S A PLATTED LOT I MEAN THAT'S YES BUT THE ONLY REASON WHY WE PULLED BACK IS TO GET THAT AND WE TOLD HIM TO DO THE PERVIOUS SO HE COULD BE FURTHER YOU KNOW YEAH SO THAT'S THE CRITICAL LINE. THAT'S THE LINE HE'S NOT FOUR FEET SO IF HE BRINGS THE HOUSE DOWN I MEAN TELLS US THAT WE'RE SITTING ON THE MARSH JUST SLIDES IT YEAH IT'S GOING TO BE SITTING ON BUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME IS THAT THIS IS THE MAIN GET IT. YEAH THE BACK HERE THAT'S FINE BUT HE ALSO HAS MARSH ON THE SIDES SO THE HOUSE IS FURTHER AWAY FROM THIS WE COULD GET THE HOUSE THE FIRST THING IS 40 FROM THAT SIDE. OKAY SO THAT'S WHY WE SAID OKAY PUSH BACK SOME SO THAT YOU CAN GET MORE BECAUSE HE BRINGS IT YOU KNOW THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE SITTING RIGHT OVER THE MARSH ON THE SIDES. RIGHT. BUT WHAT'S ON IS THIS A PLOT LOT? SO ONE IS LIKE ME IT'S UNBELIEVABLE BECAUSE RIGHT BUT THEN ARE THEY GOING TO COME AND GET A VARIANCE? I DON'T THINK THIS ONE THIS OUT OF ALL THE LOTS THIS ONE WAS THE WORST ONE EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE WHICH IS ALL MARSH RIGHT.

BUT THEY HAVE NOT SCORED. OKAY YET. SO BECAUSE OF THIS HIS SETBACK IS OFF THE OFF THE PROPERTY. SO HE BRINGS THE HOUSE FORWARD .

IT'S GOING TO BE SITTING OVER THE MONEY. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY HE'S PULLING BACK AND THEN TRY IT. SO HE'S GOING TO TRY TO DRAW ALL THIS WARRANTY.

IT DOES AND THIS IS WHAT I GET THIS IS THE MAIN YEAH. THE CRITICAL LINE IS ALSO HERE SO UNLESS YOU BUILD IT ON TOP OF THE CRITICAL ONE AND I BECAUSE AGAIN THIS THAT'S WHY IS THERE ANY MORE POINTS TO PUT SO IF THERE IS ANY MORE QUESTION OKAY THANK YOU FOR VIEW OF GUESS WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COUNTY I GUESS WE YOU DON'T YOU DON'T WANT TO GO MAKE UP NO NEED TO I MEAN WHY DO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT A PROBLEM? YEAH BUT THE VERY REASON THAT I SAID IS BEFORE THE HOUSE ALREADY BUT YOU STILL GET THE THE THE THE GUTTER ON THE BACK SO TO TAKE THAT WATER AWAY FROM THE REAL MARSH BUT THE CRITICAL PART COMES IN ON THE SIDES THAT'S WHY HAD TO TRY TO ASSESS THE HOUSE IS RIGHT NOW ON THE CRITICAL SO IF WE MOVE IS GOING TO BE ON TOP OF WE WANT TO RENDER THE LOT SO THE HOUSE IS COMPARABLE TO ALL THE OTHERS ARE GOING TO BE BUILT IN SIZES YEAH SO THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ANOTHER QUESTION HILARY. YES IF WE GAVE A RELIEF ON THE FIVE FOOT SIDE THEY COULD PROBABLY MOVE IT UP HERE AND THEN THEY WOULD BE FURTHER AWAY FROM THAT MARSH TO START.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IT OVER PUSH IT OVER MAYBE YOU KNOW WHAT IS THAT PROBABLY THAT WOULD GIVE YOU TWO MORE FEET TWO MORE FEET AND THEN YOU COULD BRING IT ALL THE WAY UP HERE.

I MEAN I'D HAVE TO SEE IT DRAWN SO YOU'RE SAYING MOVE OVER TWO MORE FEET AND THEN PULL IT FORWARD AND SEE HOW FAR YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT WE AND DEMONSTRATE YEAH YEAH I MEAN YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT YEAH YOU KNOW THIS IS SORT OF OUR PINCH POINT RIGHT HERE SO IF WE GAVE A VARIANCE ON THE FIVE FOOT SETBACKS SO IT WOULD BE THREE

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FEET AND THEN YOU COULD PULL THIS UP LIKE UP TO HERE AND THAT WAY WE WOULD GIVE RELIEF TO THIS BIGGER MORRIS JUST VERSION AT THAT POINT YEAH IT MIGHT BE THE WHOLE THING JUST TO BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW NOT FIVE FEET RIGHT NOW THAT'S FOUR FEET FROM THE CRITICAL LINE RIGHT.

BUT FROM FROM THIS POINT RIGHT HERE THAT'S THE CLOSEST ONE AND IT'S THIS THIS WAS ALL MOVED THIS WAY INTO YOUR FEET BEING RIGHT ON WAS TO SHOW US WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IT OVER LIKE SHE SAID AND SHOW US WHERE THE HOUSE GOING TO BE SO WE CAN MEASURE IT AND AND THEN PULL THIS FORWARD FOR IT FORWARD AS YOU CAN SO WE GET AWAY FROM THAT BIG MARSH WITH THAT WE'VE GOT THAT I THINK WE COULD LET HILARY DECIDE? YES, THEY CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE IT OVER AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T WORK THEN WE'LL STICK TO THIS YEAH OKAY SO DO YOU THINK YOU OR I THINK WE WE IT'S IT'S JUST ONE JUST ONE YEAH THE CLOSEST TO THE CRITICAL SO WHICHEVER IF HE MOVES IT OVER WE SEE WHERE WE CAN GET FURTHER AWAY AND PULL IT SO IT'D BE A CONDITION YOU WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE STRONG PREFERENCE AMERICAN WELL YOU GUYS JUST ADD THAT EXTRA STUFF TO WHAT I HAVE HERE IS THAT YOU YOU'RE BENEFIT YOU'LL IT A VARIANCE TO THE SIDE YARD TO BE THREE FEET OF THAT ARE ALREADY TWO FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE RIGHT AND THEN PULL THE HOUSE SO WE CAN SEE WHY DO WE SAY SIDE YARD SETBACK VARIANCE OF 233 FEET OUR MAXIMUM OF THREE FEET AND THEN ON THE DIRECTOR'S REVIEW OF THE REPLACEMENT PLACEMENT OF THE HOUSE ONCE YOU PUT IT FORWARD. MM HMM.

OKAY. YOU KNOW THAT DOESN'T WORK IN STANDS IT.

YES, YEAH, YEAH. LOOK AT ALL RIGHT. SO GOOD THING WE GOT THIS THING UNDER. CAN I MAKE A MOTION? YES.

WELL, LET ME DO PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY? WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BUT IS THERE ANY COMMENT FOR ITEM EIGHT IF NO PUBLIC COMMENT WE CALL THIS PUBLIC COMMENT IS YOUR CHANCE TO RETURN TO MAKE A MOVE OKAY I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE VARIANCE FROM THE SETBACK WITH THE CONDITION THAT NO LET ME START AGAIN APPROVE THE VARIANCE OF THE SETBACK VARIANCE INCLUDING UP TO A THREE FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK WHICH WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE DIRECT THE PLANNING ZEBO A DIRECTOR TWO IN THE PLACEMENT OF THE HOUSE IS THAT CLEAR IN JUST THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT DID THE APPROVAL CONTAINS THE THREE OTHER RIGHT RECOMMENDATION? YES YEAH AND THE WOULD THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THE APPLICANT WILL PLACE GUTTERS ON THE ROOF AND DIVERT ALL RUNOFF IS FAR FROM THE CRITICAL LINE AS POSSIBLE AFRICAN OF SUMMIT PLANNING PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE REMAINING BUFFER AREA FOR FREE VEGETATION AND AN APPLICANT SHALL HERE TO ALL REQUIREMENTS FOR APPROVAL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY.

ALL RIGHT SO THERE'S A ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE WITH THE FOUR CONDITIONS I HAVE SO ONE TO SECOND THAT I'LL SAY I GET IT ALL IN OF APPROVING SO IT'S BEEN PASSED YOU GET WITH THE COUNTY AND MOVE FROM THERE ALL RIGHT ITEM NUMBER TEN MICHAEL AND HEATHER REQUESTING A

[10. Michael & Heather McClurg are requesting a Variance from the OCRM Critical Line – River Buffer. The property is located at 8 Reeve Court, St. Helena Island. The property is zoned Dataw Island Planned Unit Development (PUD).]

VARIANCE IN OCR FOR DIVORCE. YES, SIR. JOHN GRIFFIN ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS OF PHIFER CONTRACTING YOU DO IT WELL SO OUR OVERALL VIEWPOINT WITH THIS HOME AND REQUEST AND THE 30 FOOT RIVER BUFFER WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE DART RV.

THEY DO FIND IT IN HARMONY WITH THEIR OVERALL CONCEPT YOUR IDEA FOR THEIR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT THE RIVER BUFFER WE ARE REQUESTING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST AND

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WEST SPECIFICALLY OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST EXCUSE ME TO THE WEST ACTUALLY HAS A 20 FOOT SETBACK AND THE NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST DOES HAVE THE 30. SO WE ARE REQUESTING 30 FOOT SETBACK AND NOT ALL THE WAY TO THE ANYTHING NEAR THE 20 OR A 20 RATHER THE DESIGN OF THE HOME WE TRIED TO DESIGN IT IN AN EFFORT TO PRESERVE AS MANY SPECIMEN TREES ON THE LOT AS POSSIBLE. SPECIFICALLY YOU'LL NOTICE A CLUSTER OF LIVE OAKS AND ALSO THE TROUT REDUCING THE FOOTPRINT AND THE IMPERVIOUS IN CONSIDERATION FOR SITE DRAINAGE WE DO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A HARDSHIP AS IT PERTAINS TO THE SHAPE OF THE PARCEL OF LAND IF YOU NOTICE IT IS VERY NARROW AT THE ENTRY POINT AND THE NARROWNESS UPON THAT AND THE GARAGE SETBACKS FROM THE DELTA OUR AIR BE SOMEWHAT DICTATE HOW THE HOUSE HAS TO BE ON THE SITE AND THAT'S REALLY OUR OVERVIEW FOR THIS VARIANCE REQUEST OTHER THINGS WE ARE HAPPY TO DO AND EVEN AND AGREE WITH VERY MUCH SO IS THE RECOMMENDATIONS THE FROM HILLARY AND EVERYONE ELSE TO DIVERT ALL WATER RUNOFF VIA GUTTERS BACK TO THAT 50 FOOT CRITICAL LINE AND THE REVEGETATE PLANTINGS WE DO AGREE AND ARE DEFINITELY ON THE SAME PAGE WITH REGARDS TO THAT I THINK THE QUESTION IS YES THE CUSTOM DESIGN HOUSE OR PLAN BROOK HOUSE THIS IS A CUSTOM DESIGNED HOUSE BY NATE SHEEHAN I WOULD THINK AS ACCUSTOMED HOUSE THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT SIT THE LOT BETTER. YES MA'AM.

WE DO HAVE ANOTHER CONCEPTUAL PLAN OF US TRYING TO PULL THE HOUSE FURTHER FORWARD THE GARAGE SETBACK. WE DO SEE THAT IF DO THAT IT DOES TIGHTEN THE TURN RADIUS INTO THE GARAGE. IT DOES GET US ABOUT ANOTHER 6 TO 7 FEET FROM THE CRITICAL LINE. SO YOU SAYING YOU HAVE TRIED MINIMIZE NEED IMPROVEMENT? YES WE DO YEAH BY ABOUT 6 TO 7 FEET ON TOP. YEAH I DREW THIS HOUSE IT'S GOOD TO SET UP I CAN CLARIFY THAT QUESTION. YEAH BUT IF YOU WANT TO COME UP WITH MY APOLOGIES SO WE STARTED THIS DESIGN UNDERNEATH THE DARTBOARD WE ACTUALLY WENT TO RB AND NATE SCHOEN SORRY IN I DREW THIS SO WE STARTED OUT BY LOOKING AT THE NEIGHBORS REALIZING THAT THERE'S A 50 FOOT SETBACK CURRENTLY BUT NOT ONE THIS HOUSE WAS PLATTED OR OR NOT WHEN THE DOOR WAS PLATTED YOU'LL SEE THE 50 FOOT LINE IS REALLY THERE'S NOTHING LEFT TO USE ON THE LOT SO WE SPOKE WITH I RB COMPARED THE TWO NEIGHBORS AND ACTUALLY ALL THE WAY AROUND THE CALLED A SACK THEY WERE ACTUALLY USED 20 FOOT BUFFER ON MOST OF THOSE HOUSES IF YOU GO AROUND THE CUL DE SAC EVEN THERE 20 FOOT ON ONE SIDE AND 30 ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO IN SPEAKING WITH RB AND NINE IT WAS A PUTT WE TRIED TO CLARIFY THIS 30 FOOT GOING TO BE OKAY WITH DAUGHTER WHICH THEY GAVE US THE OKAY TWO AND YOU KNOW SHAME ON ME FOR NOT COMING TO ZONING TO ASK THE ZONING FOR THAT BUT WE FELT THAT WE WERE KEEPING IN IN HARMONY WITH WHAT Y'ALL WANTED AND WHAT WE TO WORK WITH WITH A A LEFTOVER LOT IS THAT I HOPE THAT CLARIFY WHERE WE DID THAT FROM BUT THERE ANY LOTS ADJACENT THAT'S THE ONLY ONE ON THAT CUL DE SAC LEFT BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN DESIGNED DIFFERENTLY TO SINCE I DON'T KNOW TO SAVE THOSE TREES WHICH WAS A BIG CONSIDERATION THAT THERE'S OAKS ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THAT WE WENT OUT OF OUR WAY TO TRY TO DO THAT AND ALSO PUT THE MASTER UPSTAIRS TO OUR FOOTPRINT FOR THE HOUSE.

RIGHT TRYING TO MAKE THAT THAT OVERALL IMPACT OF AREA TO THE LOT WE TRIED TO MINIMIZE THAT BY MOVING UPSTAIRS WHICH WE DON'T DO A WHOLE LOT OF MASTER'S UPSTAIRS YOU KNOW ESPECIALLY IN ADULT DAUGHTER NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE TRIED TO COMPLY WITH ALL THOSE DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS IN AN ODD LOT SIZE AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT DESIGN HOUSE THE SIZE OF THIS HOUSE COMPARED TO THE OTHER HOUSE WE FIT WITHIN THE DOT ALL GUIDELINES WHICH IS A MAXIMUM 3000 SQUARE FEET OF SQUARE FEET WHICH WE FIT WITHIN ALL THOSE

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SAME AND HAVE BEEN GIVEN APPROVAL TO MEET THOSE GUIDELINES.

I COULDN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY THE SIZES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE NEIGHBORS HOMES BUT AS FAR AMASSING GOES IF YOU LOOK AT OUR FRONT ELEVATION, LOOK AT THE OTHER NEIGHBORS WE ACTUALLY KIND OF LOOK A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT . SO I THINK THAT MASSING AND THAT THAT FEEL OF THAT CUL DE SAC I THINK IS VERY MUCH IN HARMONY WITH WHAT DAUGHTER INTENDED WHEN THEY PLANTED THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORIGINALLY AND YOU DID SAY YOU HAVE A LETTER FROM DR. STATING THAT THEY WE HAVE THEIR RB APPROVAL LETTER YES WE DO THAT IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SO IF WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS OKAY.

LET ME HEAR FROM COUNTY I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE SRT, THE STAFF REVIEW TEAM AND THIS HOUSE IS 940 SQUARE FEET LARGER THAN THE AVERAGE HOUSE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THE AVERAGE HOUSE SIZE 3000 626 AND HE'S PROPOSING 4000 566. SO IT IT'S MUCH BIGGER THAN THE OTHERS SO A START COULD NOT APPROVE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT GUIDELINE FIVE LEVEL FIVE RIGHT AVERAGE SO THAT'S WHY HE'S HERE I RECOMMENDED DISAPPROVAL BECAUSE I THINK THE HOUSE SIZES IS MUCH TOO TOO LARGE AND BUT IF THE BOARD IS GOING TO GRANT THE VARIANCE THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS WITH LIKE ON THE RIGHT OF THE ONLY QUESTIONS WHICH IS THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE WE DON'T IT DOESN'T GO BY JUST THE FOOTPRINT GOES BY THE TOTAL HOUSE HERE SO THE AVERAGE SIZE WE GO THROUGH THE TAX RECORDS AND WE LOOK AT ALL OF THE HOUSE SIZES AND WE GET THE AVERAGE HOUSE SIZE AND THAT'S 900 SQUARE FEET OVER.

SO THAT'S AND COOLING. SO AGAIN HEATING AND COOLING TOTAL YES PORCHES EVERYTHING.

THAT'S EVERYTHING. YES. MM HMM.

SO IF YOU WERE TO PULL THAT HOUSE, WOULD THAT STILL BE I THINK YOU SAID IT'S SEVEN FEET.

I DON'T THINK YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MEET THE 50 C. YEAH SO THE MINIMIZES WELL I MEAN THAT WOULD BE UP TO HIM YOU CAN PULL IT FORWARD AND SEE BUT YOU GUYS WOULD STILL HAVE TO GRANT HIM THE VARIANCE FOR WHATEVER THAT NEW SETBACK WOULD BE.

I MEAN I THINK IT COULD EASILY BE REDESIGNED TO BE BEHIND THE SETBACK OR OR A LOT CLOSER THE 50 FOOT IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? BUT AGAIN THANK YOU, MR. PUBLIC. COME IS THERE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ONE.

OH WOULD TAKE JAMES LUDDEN ALL RIGHT THAT'S FOR THE NEXT OH NO NO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ONE OKAY. YOU PUT DOWN NUMBER TEN.

OKAY ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE CASE WITH CLOSE BOND COME.

OKAY. WELL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US.

THERE'S COUPLE OF FACTORS I THINK I THINK A LOT IS SHEETS YOU KNOW IT, IS DIFFICULT AND ALL THE SPACES IN THE BACK HOWEVER THE YOU KNOW, THE TWO HOUSES THE ONE TO THE RIGHT AND ONE TO THE LEFT WAS 20 AND 30 FEET INTO. THE CRITICAL LINE THE BIG THING FOR ME WAS THE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BUILDABLE LOTS AROUND THERE LIKE IT WASN'T CREATING A PRECEDENT FOR, YOU KNOW, TEN NEW HOUSES. SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO GRANT THE VARIANCE IF THEY COULD MOVE THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT THEY WERE SUGGESTING THE FOUR OR FIVE FEET YOU KNOW AS MUCH AS THEY COULD WHERE THEY COULD ACTUALLY IN THE GARAGE AND THAT SKINNY ENTRANCE I'D BE WILLING TO TO GRANT THAT VARIANCE AND I'M NOT ANGRY.

I THINK IT CAN BE REDESIGNED I MEAN JUST LOOKING AT IT SOME OF THIS FORWARD I MEAN THAT HUGE DECK OUT THERE THEY COULD DO SOMETHING ELSE I MEAN IT'S I THINK ANOTHER HOUSE COULD SIT

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ON THIS LOT A LOT WITH THE 50 FOOT WITHIN THE 50 FOOT ARE CLOSER THE 50 FOOT I MEAN MAYBE WE GIVE A FIVE FOOT VARIANCE SO A TEN FOOT INSTEAD OF 20 FEET. I MEAN IT'S FOR THE PEOPLE THAT UP SEVEN WE SAID 20 DO WOULD THERE 37 SAYS 13 I MEAN YOU KNOW LIKE MOST OF THOSE FOUR I MIGHT MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE THE VARIANCE TO GO INTO THE RIVER BUT FOR IF THEY COULD MOVE THE WHOLE OF FIVE FEET WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE STAFF REVIEW FIT WITH THE REVEGETATION IN PLACE ALL TOGETHER AND ROOF AND THE OVERALL RUNOFF TO THE 50 FOOT BUFFER BEFORE DISCHARGING AND THAT THEY ADHERE TO ALL THE REQUIREMENTS APPROVAL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME SO THIS MOTION OF THE FLOOR TO GRANT THE VARIANCE IS JUST TO BE CLEAR YOU SAID PUT THAT THAT THAT'S PULL FORWARD. YES YES I'D SAY SO IT'S BEEN MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO GRANT PULLING THE HOUSE SO I THINK SEVEN OR FIVE HOW MANY I COULD I DO HAVE SOME COPIES HERE OF THE SCENARIO IF YOU'D LIKE TO FOR A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY FOR YOU IF YOU SAID SEVEN YEAH ONE CORNER WE GET UP TO 36 FEET AND ONE INCH FROM THE CRITICAL ON ANOTHER CORNER OF THE COVERED PORCH WE GET TO 37 APPROXIMATELY FEET THREE INCHES IN MY MOTION SEVEN FEET. YES YES. YES, MA'AM.

IT'D BE SIX FEET SIX FEET FOUR. SO IT'S A MOTION TO GRANT PULLING THE HOUSE FORWARD SIX FEET. IT'S BEEN PROBABLY MADE IS SECOND ALL IN FAVOR OF GRANTING THIS VARIANCE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND BOTH THANK YOU FOR YOUR VARIANCE THANK YOU THANK THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 12 RENDER ACQUISITION LLC. GOOD EVENING.

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MY NAME'S TRIP WEST WITH CYPRUS ENGINEERING WE'RE THE CIVIL ENGINEERS WORKED ON THIS PROJECT FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WITH OUR MODEL DEVELOPMENT IF I MAY, A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS BEFORE WE KIND OF JUMP THE REQUEST AND WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA A VARIANCE FOR THE STREET LENGTH AND A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THEM INDIVIDUALLY TO CORRECT THE VARIANCE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON? OKAY. AND THE SECOND FOR OUR CLIENTS BENEFIT AS PRIVILEGE AND AS BEING MY FIRST TIME BEFORE YOU GUYS I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH OTHER PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY BUT NONE OF THEM CAME TO THIS POINT SO WE HAD HEARD THAT OUR CLIENT WAS CURIOUS IF FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION QUESTIONS PUBLIC COMMENT IT IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO POTENTIALLY CONTINUE THE APPLICATION IF THEY'RE OUTSTANDING ITEMS OR DISAGREEMENT TO WORK TO A SOLVABLE PLAN OR IS IT JUST UP TO YOU GUYS TO DEVOTE AND IN DETERMINING YOU KNOW IS IS THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT CAN POSSIBLY YOU KNOW GO BACK AND IF YOU NEED TO BACK NEXT WEEK I MEAN NEXT MONTH TO DO WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE THEN YOU GUYS CAN COME BACK IF BE SURE BUT YOU SHOULD KNOW IF YOU GET TURNED DOWN YOU CAN'T RE PRESENT FOR WHAT'S RIGHT FOR IT WE VOTE ON IT YEAH RIGHT YEAH THAT'S WHAT YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR APPLICATION YOU CAN COME BACK WITHIN THE YEAR. YEAH IT'S LIKE NEXT MONTH.

YEAH YEAH. SO THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION TONIGHT I GOT ROSS CALLAGHAN WITH ME. HE'S THE DEVELOPER OUR MODEL DEVELOPMENT KEYNOTE SPEAKER.

YEAH, THANK YOU. AND THE CHIPS COME IN EARLIER WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS COUPLE OF YEARS. WE JUST WERE AWARE YOU KNOW IN THE LAST WEEK THAT WE HAD OTHER ISSUES WE WANTED TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY MEMBERS ETC. SO WE THOUGHT YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE DEFER WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT AND MEET WITH FOLKS AND STAKEHOLDERS ETC. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY IF DEPENDING ON WE WANT TO LEARN FROM THIS TOO AND GET AND GET SOME CLARIFICATION AS TO HOW WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT TOO.

SO IT'S GOOD SO I GUESS JUST KICK OFF WHY WE'RE HERE UM, AGAIN WE WORKED WITH OUR MOTTO LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE GONE THROUGH A COUPLE OF CAME TO A COUPLE OF PRE APPLICATION

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MEETINGS WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF DESIGN ITERATIONS WITH STAFF, CAME BACK FOR CONCEPTUAL SRT FEELING THAT WE HAD A WORKABLE CONCEPT PLAN TO DEVELOP THE SITE BASED ON THE BASE ZONING THE T THREE ZONING SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 41 ACRES NOT 17 OF THAT 16 AND SOME CHANGE OR PRESUME JURISDICTION JURISDICTIONAL WETLANDS WE'VE HAD A WETLANDS CONSULTANT DELINEATE THOSE AGAIN AND WORK WITH THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE SITE WE'RE BASED ON THE CODE WE HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF ACRES 20% OF THE UPLAND FOREST TO BE PRESERVED ON SITE AND THEN AND THEN YOU'RE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP THE REST IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PUTTING IN THE NECESSARY STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE WORKING WITH STAFF I THINK AS WE CAME BACK FOR OUR SECOND ROUND OF CONCEPTUAL SRT IT WAS IDENTIFIED WE WERE PROPOSING THIS STREET THAT THE 300 FOOT LENGTH STAFF AND PREVIOUSLY ORIGINALLY WE HAD KIND OF A HAMMERHEAD DESIGN AFTER INITIAL CONVERSATIONS THEY SAID WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT TO A CUL DE SAC MADE THE PLANNING CHANGES THERE AND PROCEEDED WITH THE MIDDLE OF VARIANCE APPLICATION SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION BASED ON THE YOU KNOW THE COMMENTS AND THE PROGRESS THROUGH SRT THAT TIME. AND SO THE FIRST ITEM THERE IS A VARIANCE TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE THE DEVELOPMENT YOU KNOW SPEAKS TO AND DESIRES THIS THOROUGHFARE CONNECTIVITY WITH NEW AND SUBDIVISIONS OUR SITE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN WE DID BRING A COPY IF WE NEED TO PULL IT UP BUT I THINK YOU ALL HAVE IT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU CERTAINLY YOU NEED HELP FINDING HILLARY IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON THAT TO SEE WE CAN POLITICALLY OKAY SO IF WE'RE LOOKING THE SITE PLAN HERE NORTH THIS IS TO THE LEFT OF THE PAGE OMA ROAD IS THE PERIMETER ROAD KIND OF CIRCLING ACROSS THE TOP OF THE PAGE CONFEDERATE AVENUE IS HORIZONTAL ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. I'M JUST FAMILIARIZE EVERYBODY THE THERE THERE ARE WETLANDS ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS LARGE TRACT A SMALLER AREA TO THE LEFT TO THE NORTH WHICH WE'RE YOU KNOW ABUTTING AGAINST THERE'S A MUCH LARGER WETLAND THAT EXTENDS ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF THE PAGE TO THE RIGHT OF THE PAGE THERE IN THE UPLAND PORTION THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DEVELOP WE'D LIKE TO DEVELOP IS SITUATED KIND OF CENTRAL IN THE SITE. THERE ARE FEW EXISTING ADDITIONS TO THE WETLANDS OR A FEW OTHER EXISTING THINGS TO THE PROPOSED POND THERE IN THE MIDDLE IS ACTUALLY AN EXISTING BORROW PIT AND WE INTEND TO UTILIZE PUT IN A OUTFALL STRUCTURE IN THE OUTLET PIPE TO DRAIN TO AS THAT OVERFLOWS IT WOULD DRAINS OF THE WETLAND TODAY WE'RE JUST GOING TO IMPROVE THAT CONNECTION AND THE POND WOULD STILL SERVE FOR WATER QUALITY IN ADDITION TO INCLUDING ALL THE OTHER STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE ON SITE TO MEET THE WATER QUALITY STANDARDS OF THE COUNTY. SO KIND OF WORKING TO THE LEFT OF THE PAGE YOU NOTICE A LARGE YOU KNOW TRIANGULAR AREA IN THE CENTER THERE IS AN EXISTING COMMUNICATIONS TOWER ON SITE THAT WILL REMAIN THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT IF IT WERE TO PROCEED. AND THEN THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS THOSE KIND OF WHITE AREAS WITH THE LABELS ALONG CONFEDERATE WHICH BACK UP TO OUR PROPERTY AS WELL SO INITIAL AND CONCEPTUAL PLANNING WE LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVES TRYING TO SAY PROVIDE A CONTINUOUS EITHER AROUND OR UNDERNEATH THE TOWER DETERMINED THAT THOSE THOSE OPTIONS WERE NOT NOT REALLY FEASIBLE WHICH LED TO THE YOU KNOW THE LONGER DEAD END STREET AND SO I THINK IS REALLY WHAT I HAVE TO OFFER FOR THE VARIANCE AND WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IT STAFF HAD ASSETS THROUGH THAT PROCESS INITIALLY WITH WITH THE LENGTH THE STREET JUST TO CONFIRM WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THEY WERE SATISFIED WITH FIRE COVERAGE GIVEN THE LENGTH OF THE STREET KNOWING THAT THEY WOULD NEED ADEQUATE TURN AROUND WITH THE CUL DE SAC YOU KNOW ALL COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM

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FROM THE FIRE WERE MORE ACCEPTABLE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

AND TO ROSS'S POINT WHEN WE RECEIVED THE STAFF REPORT RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE FOR THE LENGTH OF THE ROAD SOMEWHAT CALLED US OFF GUARD BUT HOPEFULLY THAT EXPLANATION MIGHT MIGHT SHED A LITTLE BIT MORE LIGHT ONTO WHY WE WERE WHY WE'RE HERE AND WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL LENGTH OF THAT ROAD .

WELL ON THAT I MEAN THE COUNTY YOU KNOW I THAT'S A THAT IT'S UP TO THIS BOARD TO GRADE ANYTHING OVER 300 FEET SO THEREFORE THAT'S PROBABLY WHY RECOMMENDED WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED WAS APPROVAL BUT AT THE END IT IT'LL BE UP TO THIS BOARD TO BE OVER 300 FEET SORRY IS DO ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU DID YOU CONSIDER DOING A LITTLE BRIDGE OVER THE RETENTION BOND BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU COULD GET THAT BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WE CONSIDERED MA'AM THAT WOULD REALLY BE COST PROHIBITIVE MORE AND COULD POTENTIALLY LEAD TO MORE OTHER IMPACTS THAT WOULD CREATE OTHER ISSUES.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION YOU PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY YOU KNEW ALL THE CODES CORRECT ABOUT THE DEAD END STREET AND THE LENGTH OF THE THAT STREET. WELL I THOUGHT THE OWNER SPEAK TO THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY FRANKLY NO I MEAN IT WAS ONCE IN IT'S KIND OF BURIED IN THE CODE THAT SAYS DEAD ENDS CAN'T BE LONGER THAN 300 FEET. YOU KNOW IN OUR REVIEW THE CODE AND IN COMING TO PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS AND FIRST ROUND AND CONCEPTUAL SRT THAT THAT WAS UNKNOWN TO US AT THE TIME ROSS WE WE HAD TO PREEMPT PRIOR TO WHEN WE CLOSED AND I REMEMBER THE EXACT ROAD BUT WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A 300 FOOT MINIMUM AT THAT TIME. IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP IN OUR DISCUSSION.

WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T SEE IT IT EITHER. SO IT WAS A MISSED.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. EXCUSE ME ABOUT THAT.

NO. DID YOU LOOK AT CONNECT BACK UP TO THE STREET THAT COMES OFF OF CONFEDERATE AVENUE? IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ROOM YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN BACK FOR DINNER. YES, MA'AM, WE DID LOOK AT THAT .

THE INITIAL CONCEPT SHOWED A LACK OF OF POINTER BUT SHOWED A POSSIBLE CONNECTION COMING AROUND THE LOWER END OF THE TOWER THERE BEHIND THE TWO EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ARE THAT THAT THE SPACE BETWEEN THE THE PROPERTY THERE AND THE THE TOWER FOUNDATIONS DON'T WE WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO BUILD A A CONFORMING ROAD SECTION THROUGH THAT SPACE THAT'S WHEN WE THAT WAS THE INITIAL CONCEPT THEN WE LOOKED AT POTENTIALLY GOING UNDERNEATH GUY WIRES AND SIMILAR SITUATION AND IT JUST DID NOT SEEM LIKE IT WAS THE BEST ALTERNATIVE IF GAVE UP LIKE 17 AND 18 COULD YOU DO IT ON 1414 OR SOMETHING? ALL RIGHT.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I LOOKED AT THE NUMBER 17 AND 18 OR OVER 1718 OR THE TWO AROUND THE NO SIR. IT'S IT'S THE THE WIDTH CONSTRAINT IS ACTUALLY AT THE END OF THE WHERE THE YELLOW LINE ENDS AT THE END OF THE TOWER FOUNDATION THAT'S THAT'S THE CHOKE POINT AND THAT CAN'T BE MOVED. NO MA'AM.

BUT WAS BUT ONE OF THE THING I'LL ADD WE DID CONSIDER REMOVING 20 THE TWO ON THE FAR RIGHT JUST AS LOOK FURTHER AT AFTER DISCUSSION WITH THE STAFF BECAUSE OF WETLANDS WHICH IS A DIFFERENT TOPIC BUT WE DID LOOK AT IT TAKEN OUT TWO OF THOSE LOTS WHICH WOULD HAVE REDUCED THE LENGTH OF THE ROAD BUT WE STILL WOULD BE BEYOND THE 300 FEET YOU TALKED ABOUT 27 26.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I LOOKED AT THAT AS I CAN. I WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING. I MEAN WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS JUST BROADLY WE ARE TRYING TO DO YOU KNOW, INFILL, YOU KNOW, CONSIST NEIGHBORHOOD,

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YOU KNOW, THAT'S SMALLER IN NATURE MAKE USE OF THE PONDS. WE'VE GOT TRAILS AROUND THE PONDS. WE'VE GOT CIVIC SPACE WITHIN THE YOU KNOW THAT SORT OF BUILT IN THE OVERALL SITE. WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE THIS A VERY COHESIVE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT FOR YOU KNOW, SUPER NICE HOMES WITHIN THE T THREE ZONING WHICH PROVIDES FOR LARGER LOTS. DID YOU LOOK AT MOVING THIS STREET DOWN HERE? WHAT IS THIS DOROTHY? THIS THAT ONE IF IT WAS MOVED DOWN TO THE OPPOSITE END BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE DEAD END BE AS LONG IN THAT COULD ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE ALLEY THE MAIN STREET THROUGH THE CENTER OR MOVING IT TO THE EXPANDED DETENTION TIME? YES. SO I THINK THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS TRYING DESIGN A STREET THAT HAS LOTS FRONT ON IT. YOU'LL NOTICE WE'VE GOT LOTS FOUR THROUGH SEVEN FRONT ON THE ALMA ROAD LOTS THERE ARE EIGHT THROUGH 13 FRONT ON THE THE PROPOSED STREET BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH BETWEEN ALMA ROAD AND THE DETENTION POND IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR TO STREET CROSS-SECTIONS IN THERE THE THE ALLEY BETWEEN YEAH THERE'S LOTS IDENTIFIED AS IS IS ACTUALLY THE BACK OF THE PROPERTIES WHICH IS ALLOWED BY THE ZONING BUT THAT'S MORE OF A ALLEY FOR BACK LOADING THE DRIVEWAYS FOR THOSE LOTS BUT THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WIDTH IN THERE TO PROVIDE TWO STREETS AND GET THE LOT FRONTAGES TO WORK OUT BUT YOU COULD TAKE THAT STREET OUT MOVE THOSE HOUSES DOWN AND THEN HAVE A CUL DE SAC THERE WHICH WOULD NOT BE THAT AND THEN THAT WOULD BE SHORTER TO THIS CUL DE SAC TO IT WHICH IT WOULD STILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY IT WAS REDUCE IT I THINK YOU GET 300 FEET THE FRONTAGE IS REQUIRED IS 75 FEET SO THAT GIVES YOU FOUR LOTS BEFORE YOU RUN OUT OF STREET LENGTH SO YOU'RE VERY CLOSE TO THE WETLANDS YOUR BUILDINGS ARE RIGHT AND EVEN THE KIND OF OVERLAP LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO PREVENT THE RUNOFF FROM ALL THESE HOUSES AND CARS AND OIL ON THE ROAD AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT WILL BE WASHED INTO THE WETLANDS? YES.

I MEAN AS PART OF THE PROJECT IN BUILDING THE STREETS AND THE LOTS IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, THE STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE US TO TO CAPTURE, YOU KNOW, A PERCENTAGE OF THE RUNOFF.

WE HAVE TO PROVIDE TREATMENT IN JUSTIFY THAT YOU'LL SEE THE THE BIO RETENTION AREAS IDENTIFIED THROUGHOUT THE SITE PLAN SO THE GOAL IN FINAL DESIGN WOULD BE TO COLLECT THE STREET DRAINAGE AS MUCH FROM THE LOTS AS POSSIBLE ROUTE THROUGH THOSE WATER QUALITY DEVICES THROUGH THE RETENTION BEFORE IT GOES TO THE WETLAND. AND THERE'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE SOME PERIMETER AREAS ON THESE LOT SEARCH AND YOU KNOW ADJACENT TO THE WETLANDS BETWEEN ANY BUILDING IN THE WETLANDS TO ALSO FILTER THAT WATER BUBBLE.

IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS THINK YOU SAY WE ARE HAVING MORE QUESTIONS WE'LL CALL YOU GUYS BACK SO THAT WE HEAR FROM THE COUNTY YOU YOU KNOW WE LOOKED AT THIS AT THE SRT AND AND HE SAID THAT THERE'S THIS LITTLE SECTION IN THE CODE THAT'S TUCKED AWAY.

WE FOUND IT AND. THAT'S WHERE THE 300 FEET FOR A DEAD END STREET CAME CAME TO BE THE SRT DID NOT APPROVE THIS HE HAD TO GET THE VERY HE HAS TO GET THE VARIANCE BEFORE WE CAN APPROVE THE SUBDIVISION SO WHEN WE DID OUR STAFF REPORT WE FELT THAT THERE WAS REALLY NO HARDSHIP HE CAN STILL SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE GETS 37 OR 34 LOTS AND HE I'M NOT SURE HOW WE COULD SHORTEN THE THE ROAD BUT HE HAS KIND OF ALTERNATIVE LAYOUT FOR THESE LOTS AND STAY AWAY FROM THE WETLAND IF HE GETS A VARIANCE FOR THIS I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE ROAD IS. THIS IS A NON-CONFORMING SUBDIVISION STARTING BEFORE IT'S EVEN PLATTED IT'S GOING TO BE NON-CONFORMING SITUATION SO STAFF FELT THAT WANTING MANY

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LOT WAS CREATING THE PROBLEM SO WE STATED THAT APPLICATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE TO THE LAND OR WOULD NOT EFFECTIVELY PROHIBIT OR REASON UNREASONABLE MAY RESTRICT THE UTILIZATION OF THE LAND. THE APPLICANT CAN SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY WITHOUT THE NEED FOR VARIANCES THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE WOULD CONFER SPECIAL PRIVILEGE ON THIS LANDOWNER BECAUSE THEN EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE TO COME FOR A VARIANCE.

ALSO THE LANDOWNER IS ALLOWED REASONABLE USE OF THE LAND FOR THE SUBDIVISION AND HE MET THE CODE THEY WOULD SUBDIVIDE THE SUBDIVISION WOULD NOT BE PLOTTED WITH NONCONFORMING STANDARDS THE REQUEST FOR THE VARIANCE IS NOT IN HARMONY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THESE LOTS ARE VERY SMALL. THERE'S THIS HUGE TOWER THAT NO ONE CAN SEE RIGHT NOW ONCE HE GOES IN AND HE CUTS ALL THESE TREES DOWN THE BASE OF THAT TOWER IS GOING TO BE FRONT AND CENTER FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. SO WE FELT THAT THE VARIANCE WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

EVERYTHING IS SO TIGHT I DON'T SEE WHERE HE CAN EVEN PUT A 50 FOOT BUFFER TO KIND OF HIDE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S ON THIS PROPERTY AND WE DON'T THAT IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I GUESS I SHOULD SAY THIS HE'S BEEN SAYING TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS HE'S BEEN DEALING WITH TRYING TO SELL TO THE COUNTY. SO HE'S BEEN BACK AND FORTH.

THAT'S WHY IT'S TAKEN SO LONG. BUT WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THE LENGTH OF THE ROAD.

JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT JUST TO BE CLEAR THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS FOR BOTH OF THE CUL DE SAC STREET. NO, I THINK IT'S JUST FOR THAT REASON THAT LONG ONE THAT COMES IN YEAH. UH HUH YEAH OKAY. OKAY YEAH.

THE OTHER ONE IS ONLY HUNDRED AND 90 YEAH YEAH YEAH. I MEAN IT'S KIND OF BEEN A CENTRAL CONCERN AND AND THEN IF HE REDUCES A LOT THEN HE DOESN'T NEED A SPECIAL USE TO GET INTO THE WETLAND SO WE GOT WE HAVE TWO THINGS GOING ON HERE THAT IS CAUSING THIS ON SUBDIVISION TO BE NON-CONFORMING SO IT CAN BE DONE YOU JUST NEED TO GO BACK AND RECONSTRUCT. YES YEAH I MEAN 38 BLOCKS RIGHT HE CAN GO RE REDO THE I HAVE A HARD TIME TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT WITH THESE GUY WIRES JUST THAT JUST THE AMOUNT OF I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ASKED THEM AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE RIGHT HERE FOR TREES SO YES, WHEN YOU LOOK THAT NO TREES ALL OF THEM HAVE TO COME DOWN BECAUSE SO TIGHT. YEAH EVEN THE LOTS LOTS AND THEY'RE SO TIGHT THERE CANNOT BE ANY TREES THERE AT ALL. WELL THAT EXCEPT FOR THE WETLAND TREES THAT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO TOUCH BUT IT'S GOING TO BE WIDE OPEN AND THAT'S A REALLY SMALL CONTAINED AREA THAT I CAN'T I MEAN SETTING ASIDE ANY OF THE DRAINAGE CONCERNS IN FILLING IN WETLANDS BUT ADDING AT LEAST 80 ADDITIONAL CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT AREA I HAVE AN OFFICE RIGHT DOWN THERE. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT COULD BE REALLY WOULDN'T IF THEY WOULDN'T TAKE OUT THOSE TREES ALSO HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT AND ALL THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG CONFEDERATE AVENUE. YES AND YEAH YEAH. THAT'S WHAT WE HAD SAID IT.

I'LL DO IT BLOCK THEM. ALL RIGHT SEE IF HE SAID THAT'S THE ADVERSE EFFECT YEAH BECAUSE I WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT VISUAL YOU KNOW BUT I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO VISUAL HOW TO GET A VISUAL STATEMENT WE DO IT FOR THE TOWERS BECAUSE YOU KNOW THEY DO THE BALLOON BUT FOR THIS ONE I DON'T KNOW HOW WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE HIM SHOW US THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE BASE OF THE TOWER AND ALL OTHER THINGS THAT THE TOWER IS

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TECHNICALLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE A 50 FOOT BUFFER AROUND IT. SO I'M THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING WE LOOKED AT. NOT SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND BUFFER AROUND THE GUIDELINE AREAS ARE JUST WELL AROUND BACK THEN THE TOWER WAS SUPPOSED TO PERIMETER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BUFFER I THERE HAD BEEN A 38 LOT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY LIKE IN 2015 SO IT WASN'T APPROVED I DON'T REMEMBER IN 2015.

YEAH BUT HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK BUT I THINK THAT TOWERS IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM AND I DON'T THINK THEY CAN GET OF IT. I DON'T THINK SO EITHER AND IT'S A VERY TALL TOWER I HEAR IT'S LIKE 400 FEET. IT'S ONE OF THOSE RADIO TOWERS .

MR. CHAIRMAN SAYS WE SHOULD SEND THEM BACK TO THE DRAWING. BUT WHAT OF LET'S SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC TO SAY. OH, IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? BUT AGAIN SO WE'RE GOING TO NO OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT. OH MR. JAMES LOOK CAN I MOVE MINE TO NUMBER 15 FOR BROKE. DO I NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE SECOND PART OF THE THING TO WE START OVER WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS ONE. WELL WE NEED TO BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SEPARATE WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS FIRST BEFORE WE GO TO THE OTHER PART.

THIS ONE IS DESTROYING THE WEAPONS AND THAT IS ALMOST WRONGLY HERE YOU HAVE TO SAY OKAY, DO SO HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WHEN THERE'S BEEN NO VOTE DOING WELL BE HONEST.

YEAH I THINK IT'D BE WISE THE BOYS SPEAK NO, I GOT A PUBLIC COMMENT.

WELL, HOLD ON. LET ME CALL YOUR NAME. YOU DID YOU FILL OUT FORM? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO MR. JAMES, DO YOU STILL WHAT DO YOU WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE DO? I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT 15 AFTER YOU ANSWERED A SPECIAL YES DISCUSSES RIGHT TONY THIS BILL YEAH THAT'S ME.

THANK YOU THE PROBLEM THAT THAT I'VE GOT MOST OF THE PEOPLE AND IN THE ALL JOY AREA CONFEDERATE AVENUE IS IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE NINE HOUSES THEY DON'T BACK UP I LIVE FOR MY PROPERTY IS ON CONFEDERATE AVENUE MY PROPERTY IS 200 FEET WIDE. THAT MEANS THERE WILL BE THREE HOUSES BEHIND MY PROPERTY THE DRAWING THAT I SEE UP THERE THEY BASICALLY GOT THOSE HOUSES BACKING UP WITHIN TEN FEET OF MY PROPERTY. WHAT THAT MEANS IS TWO THINGS ALL THE THE TREES WILL BE GONE THEY'LL HAVE TO CLEAR CUT THAT WHOLE AREA TO PUT THOSE HOUSES . NUMBER TWO MY PROPERTY SLOPED FROM CONFEDERATE BACK BACKWARDS FOR ABOUT IT'S ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF FOOT FALL SO ALL THOSE HARD SURFACES THAT CREATE THOSE HOUSES AND THERE'S NOT MUCH PERVIOUS MATERIAL BE LEFT BETWEEN THEM I DON'T HAVE WATER PROBABLY YARD. EVERY TIME THAT YOU GET A HARD RAIN IT'S GOING TO BE A MESS AND I DON'T OF COURSE THERE'S NO GRADED DRAINAGE PLAN OR ANYTHING SEE HOW THEY CAN DO ANYTHING. THE HOUSES ARE SO CLOSE BUT THEY WILL ELIMINATE ALL OF THOSE TREES. THERE'S BAXTER'S I THINK THERE'S SIX 200 FOOT WIDE LOTS ON CONFEDERATE AVENUE AND THERE WON'T BE ANY TREES BEHIND THERE BE TOTALLY GONE AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'VE GOT YOU KNOW IN MY MY MY NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE THEY ALL WE ALL GOT THE SAME PROBLEM THEN THE TREES BACK THERE ARE MASSIVE THEY'RE HUGE IT'S A HUGE PINE FOREST IT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND THEY WILL THEY'LL JUST BE GONE. YOU'LL SEE IT THAT'S ALL GONE.

THANK YOU SIR. KAREN JUST I WAS ACTUALLY WANTING TO BE THE LAST OF THAT PEOPLE YOU FORWARD BECAUSE I WAS JUST GOING TO AGREE WITH EVERYBODY BUT I OWN 33 ALMA ROAD DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AND I'M ACTUALLY FOR PROGRESS BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE SMARTLY . THIS IS HAVING THIS MANY HOMES IN THERE.

I'M TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER IT'S JUST TOO MANY IT'S GOING TO FLOOD EVERYTHING OUT AND THAT'S MY PROBLEM WITH WITH THE THOUGHT OF THIS GOING IN HERE ALL JOY THE WHOLE AREA, MY KENNEL OR MY MY PROPERTY WHICH IS A DOG KENNEL IT IS THE FRONT YARD ALREADY GETS VERY, VERY, VERY AND I CAN'T USE IT AS ANY FUNCTIONING SPACE FOR MY BUSINESS BUT I JUST HAVE IT THERE IS GREEN SPACE BUT IF IT IS TO IF THEY WERE TO BUILD

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THIS AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE THE RUNOFF THAT IS DONE CORRECTLY THEN IT'S JUST GOING TO FLOOD MY PLACE ALL THE MORE POSSIBLY ALL THE WAY UP TO DOORWAY AND IT TOTALLY WOULD JUST EVERYTHING THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT I'M WORRIED ABOUT HAVEN'T SEEN ANY I DON'T HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE IN WHAT ANYBODY HAS BEEN DOING ANYBODY BEING THE GOVERNMENT AND THE PEOPLE THAT BE IN ORGANIZING OUR RUNOFF ISSUES IS THAT THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR OR WATER PROBLEMS AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS YEARS AND I'VE OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR 12 YEARS AND I OWN ANOTHER PROPERTY AND FOR THREE AND IT'S STILL THE SAME CONVERSATION OVER AND OVER AND OVER ONE OF THESE DAYS ARE GOING TO FIX OUR DITCHES ONE OF THESE DAYS YOU'RE GOING TO FIX OUR DRAINS IT'S JUST NOT HAPPENING. I DON'T HAVE THE CONFIDENCE ANYTHING TO UNDERSTAND. I'M SORRY. NO, I I DON'T THINK SO BUT I MIGHT KIND OF COME BACK. NO, IT WILL ANYWAY PROBABLY BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FROM AGO AND IT MAKES CAROL KNOW THIS IS NO MY NAME IS CAROLYN SMITH AND I LIVE AT ALL JOY AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE ALL JOINT PRESERVATION COMMISSION WHICH OVERSEES ZONING THAT THE COUNTY DID ABOUT 50 OR 20 YEARS AGO TO PROTECT THIS AREA.

I WILL SAY THAT THIS OF PROPERTY WAS NOT PUT IN TO THE ZONING.

IT IS KIND OF LIKE A LITTLE DONUT HOLE THAT GET IN BUT THE PROPERTY NEXT TO IT THE BAILEY HE WAS IN IT EITHER BUT MR. BAILEY AS YOU KNOW SOLD TO THE AND IT IS NOW A COUNTY PARK AND THE REASON THAT WAS DONE IS BECAUSE OF THE WETLANDS AND WE DO HAVE A TERRIBLE TERRIBLE PROBLEM ANYWHERE FROM BURKE CHURCH ROAD DOWN WITH OUR DRAINAGE AND THE KICKER IS IS THE COUNTY IS FIXING TO HIRE A FIRM THIS COMING THEIR NEXT MEETING IT'S UNDER CONTRACT GOING TO DECIDE WHICH ONE THEY'RE GOING TO HIRE AND THE COUNTY IS FIXING TO PAY OUT I DON'T $175,000 TO COME IN AND DO A STUDY FOR THE DRAINAGE OF THIS AREA FROM BURKE CHURCH ROAD TO THE BOAT RAMP BACK TO ALMA ROAD AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND MY ONE POINT IS IS EVEN IF THEY GOING TO GO FORWARD I DON'T THINK ANYTHING SHOULD BE TO GO FORWARD UNTIL AFTER THE DRAINAGE STUDY IS DONE. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THEM BUILDING HOUSES.

IT IS ABOUT OUR DRAINAGE AND OUR WETLANDS AND THIS IS WETLANDS AND THIS PROPERTY HAS COME BEFORE Y'ALL IN THE PAST FROM THE FORMER OWNER MR. JOE PITTS AND HE WAS POLITELY TURNED DOWN THREE TIMES BECAUSE I SIT RIGHT HERE AND LISTEN TO IT.

I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO HIM AND I'M SURE THAT THIS MAN PROBABLY SHOULD FIGURE THAT OUT BEFORE HE BOUGHT IT AND NOW THE COUNTY HAS BEEN IN THE GREEN SPACE I THINK HAS HAD THEIR EYE ON THIS PROPERTY SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT SITUATION. WE WERE TOLD IN A MEETING LAST WEEK THAT THE AGREEMENT HAD BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM THE GREENSPACE THING BUT YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT TOO MANY HOUSES AND. I KNOW IT'S KIND OF ODD FOR ME TO BE STANDING UP HERE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE I KIND OF DO REAL ESTATE MYSELF BUT IS THE TOWER T WE TRIED TO PROTECT IT. OH JOY THAT THIS IS GOING TO RUIN AND AND THEN LIKE I SAID THE COUNTY OWNS IT NEXT TO IT WITH THIS BIG PART THEY'RE FIXING TO DEVELOP AND THAT POND JUST GOING TO PUSH ALL THE WATER OVER THERE AND BACK. AND THEN ONE THING I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT SINCE I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE LOOKING AT IT ON ALMA ROAD, THE REC CENTER IS RIGHT ACROSS IT AND I DON'T SEE ANY ROAD CUTS OR ROAD STUDIES OR SIDE CUTS OR ENTRANCES FOR THIS PROJECT. IT'S ONLY GOING TO HAVE ONE ENTRANCE TO IT.

I MEAN WHEREAS YOU ROAD CUTS AND YOU ROAD STUDIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF YOU HAVE 20 MORE SECONDS WITH SMOOTH OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

JOHN MCCAIN WELL IS ALLEN ALL IN HERE? WELL, CAROLYN ANSWERED ALL THE

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QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO ASK. OKAY. I MEAN I I'VE BEEN ASKED A COUPLE OF THINGS. I MEAN AND WOULD HAVE TO AND MY IS ALLEN HALE.

I LIVE ON SCOTIA STREET IN BLUFFTON IN THE OJO AREA. THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE WE HAVE LOTS OF WATER THAT COME DOWN CHAD AND THE REST OF IT. BUT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO PUT IN FOR PHIL? I MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO RUB THIS THING UP A LITTLE BIT TO BACKFILL IT. THAT'S A BIGGER CONCERN BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO WASH ON THE COUNTIES PROPERTY AND THE POOR PEOPLE ON CONFEDERATE.

I MEAN NOBODY'S EVEN THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE ENVIRONMENT WHEN THE STILL I GUESS I CAN'T ANY MORE QUESTIONS? DARN.

HEY THANKS, JANE HESTER. THE IF I MAY IF I THOUGHT NOW I DON'T GET TO TALK YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE I'LL KEEP MY SHOT NEXT IF YOU WANT.

YES, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS. DON'T NEED TO FILL OUT ANOTHER SHEET OF PAPER BACK IN. OKAY. CAN I SAY TWO TOO MUCH INTO SMALLER SPACE? I AM AFTER I HEARD WHAT THEY PEOPLE HAD TO SAY AND THE OTHER PEOPLE HAD TO SAY IT LOOKS LIKE CLEAR SOMETHING I GREATLY OPPOSE FOR NOT JUST THIS SECTION FOR OUR ENTIRE EARTH. I MEAN WE NEED TO PRESERVE OF THE TREES AND SOME OF ALL THOSE GREEN THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE IF WE WANT TO KEEP BREATHING HERE ON OUR EARTH.

WE'VE CUT EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING IS CUT RIGHT IN HERE.

THAT IS OF GREAT CONCERN TO ME. ALSO I THOUGHT SUPPOSE SOMEBODY HAS A WRECK OR THERE IS A DISASTER IN THIS AREA. THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY OUT AND IF THE STREET IS ALL THOSE PEOPLE CAN'T GET THEIR CARS OUT OF THERE BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRANCE ONE WAY AND ONE WAY OUT. ONE WRECK. YOU'RE STUCK.

SO ALSO CONCERNED ME WITH THIS PLAN. SO AS FAR AS THE LENGTH OF THE STREET I THINK THEY NEED BACK. THINK THIS OVER. MAKE THE LOTS LARGER.

BE ABLE TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE GREEN THAT'S IN THERE. NOT US.

AN EYESORE NOBODY WANTS A IT'S A NEIGHBOR THAT'S COME IN AND GIVEN YOU SOMETHING HORRIBLE TO LOOK AT ALL THE TIME. THAT'S IT FOR THIS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. HESSLER, JENNIFER BASS BASS. HI THERE.

I'M JENNIFER BANKS AND I'M GROWING UP IN THE AREA OF LOW COUNTRY AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WANTED TO PURCHASE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY BUT I CAN REMEMBER WHEN THE TOWER WAS INSTALLED WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND IT WAS GOING TO BE AN EYESORE BACK THEN AND I CAN'T IMAGINE BEING 57 YEARS OLD AND SEEING THAT TOWER CLEAR CUT. I'M ALSO A CUSTOMER OF THE LADY WHO GOT THREE OF THE KENNEL. MY DOG GOES THERE TO PUPPY DOGGY DAY CARE.

SHE HAS DID A WONDERFUL WITH HER PAVING SHE SAID VERY POOR STANDS THERE AND ON ANY GIVEN DAY THAT I CAN DROP MY DOG OFF THERE THERE IS WATER AND THE LINE ROAD OF ARMOR WHERE IS RUNNING OFF DOWN AND IF YOU COME AND YOU ENTER PROPERTY I'VE ALWAYS WORKED FIRST THE CHRIS DRY PIT STEPSON HE WAS IN A MOBILE HOME AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TIME THAT IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE I WENT BOGGY WHEN I LEFT HIS HOME AND I'M NOT EXCITED ABOUT THIS ALL THIS AND I THINK IT'S AN EYESORE AND THINK YOU DID YOUR DUE DILIGENCE PERSONALLY BEFORE YOU BOUGHT IT BUT THAT'S THREE MONTH THANK YOU. JESSICA PALADINO.

HELLO. SAD TO MEET YOU GUYS YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY BASICALLY THE MAJORITY OF BLUFFTON RESIDENTS ARE UNAWARE AND UNINFORMED OF THIS PROPOSED PROJECT BUT WITHIN 48 HOURS WE'VE GOT OVER 400 VOTES OF BLUFFTON CITIZENS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT IN A TRANSPARENCY OF THE DATA TO MAKE THAT MORE THAN MINIMAL COMPLIANCE HAS BEEN FACTORED INTO THESE PLANS BECAUSE IT CAN AFFECT ALL OF BLUFFTON ALL

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OF BLUFFTON RESIDENTS OUR STORMWATER TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO POLLUTION TO THE MAY RIVER TO FLOODING OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE OUR PROPERTIES FLOOD BECAUSE WE HAVE THE WETLANDS TO PROTECT US INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE GOING TO GO UP EXTRA TRAFFIC.

LOOK WHAT JUST HAPPENED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO BECAUSE THIS A GREAT EXAMPLE JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AUGUST DEVELOPED THE WETLANDS OFF OF BACKWATER PR 418 WETLANDS AND BACK IN AUGUST IT WAS IT WAS TERRIBLE FLOODING SEWAGE BUBBLING UP INTO THE MAE RIVER.

I MEAN IT'S ALL OVER THE NEWS . YOU CAN STILL GOOGLE NOBODY TOOK ACCOUNTABILITY OR RESPONSE FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS. NOBODY HELPED THEM. THEY GOT THEY TOOK THE HIT, THEY TOOK THE LOSS AND NOBODY PROTECTED THEM AND I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN TO MY COMMUNITY COULD HAPPEN TO ME. IT COULD HAPPEN TO MY IT COULD HAPPEN TO OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. IT COULD EVEN HAPPEN OLD TOWN IT COULD BECAUSE IT'S HALF A MILE HALF A MILE FROM ALL TOWN AND IT'S WITHIN 1000 FEET OF THE MAE RIVER.

SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT THAT'S ANOTHER THING. I MEAN THE MAE RIVER IS IT'S THE SOUL OF BLUFFTON AND IT'S ALREADY SUFFERING FROM ELEVATED CONCENTRATIONS OF FECAL COLIFORM BACTERIA AND THE RECENT REPORTS SUGGEST THAT THE RUNOFF IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE OBSERVATIONS THAT THE FECAL COLIFORM LEVELS ARE ALWAYS INCREASING FOLLOWING SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENTS AND RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT FOUR MILES OF THE MAE RIVER THAT'S RESTRICTED FOR SHELLFISH HARVESTING. IT'S IT'S JUST NOT SUSTAINABLE BUT IT IT CAN BE I MEAN WE COULD MAKE SOMETHING REALLY PROACTIVE, SOMETHING LIKE SOMETHING AMAZING AND THAT IT INSPIRES PEOPLE TO DEVELOP MORE SUSTAINABLY WE CAN DO TO PROTECT THIS IS ONE OF THE WEST THE LAST WETLANDS WE HAVE IN BLUFFTON.

ALL OF THEM ARE PRETTY MUCH GONE EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE AND I JUST I JUST WISH THERE COULD BE A COLLABORATION BETWEEN MAYBE MAYBE THE OF BLUFFTON AND BEAUFORT COUNTY IF THIS HAS TO IF IT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED, MAYBE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. MAYBE THE PEOPLE CAN HAVE THE DATA THAT LIKE WE CAN NOT BE SO SCARED BECAUSE I JUST GOING TO PROTECT US AND SO I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE STAND UP FOR US AND SURE THAT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PEOPLE OF BLACKWATER DOESN'T HAPPEN TO US. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, JEFFREY.

TO WORK I WROTE EVERYTHING DOWN . FORGIVE ME IF I READ OFF THIS PAPER HERE. SO HELLO. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR HEARING FROM US TODAY. I'D ALSO LIKE TO OFFER MY THANKS TO OUR MODERN INDUSTRY THEY'LL BE FOR SEEING THE VALUE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND BRINGING MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO OUR GROWING AMERICAN FAMILIES. THE PURPOSE OF FLOOD ORDINANCE IS PROTECT HUMAN LIFE AND HEALTH, MINIMIZE PROPERTY DAMAGE AND FLOOD AREAS AND ENCOURAGE CONSTRUCTION PRACTICES THAT MINIMIZE LOSSES IN THESE AREAS.

NO ONE HAS STATED THAT A SINGLE INCH OF FLOOD WATER CAN COST UP TO $25,000 IN DAMAGES IN THE EVENT OF RAINFALL EVENT THAT LEADS TO FLOODING THIS ENTIRE SUB DEVELOPMENT WILL BE AFFECTED AS A WHOLE FOR A SINGLE INCH OF FLOODING THAT'S $850,000 IN DAMAGES UP TO OF COURSE. NOW DEBBY DROPPED 7.3 INCHES OF RAIN.

I'M ON 35 CONFEDERATE. I HAVE A DIGITALIZED RAIN GAUGE AND HURRICANE HELENE DROPPED 5.3 INCHES. THERE WAS WHAT TWO MONTHS BETWEEN THOSE? WE DID NOT GET RID OF THE WATER IN THAT BEFORE HALLOWEEN CAME AND HIT US SO CONSIDER FLOODING HAS BECOME SO PREVALENT OUR COMMUNITY THAT KIM JONES OF BLUFFTON THE DIRECTOR OF PROJECTS AND WATER SAID RESILIENCE HAS EMBRACED NUMEROUS PROJECTS IN THE RECOGNITION OF FREQUENT FLASH FLOODING EPISODES SHE'S EVEN STATED THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN INCREASE IN FECAL MATTER WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN STORMWATER RUNOFF.

THE CROWD HERE TODAY STANDS AS A TESTAMENT THAT HOMEOWNERS AND BUSINESSES ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT FLOODING CAN HAVE ON OUR HOMES THE DITCHES IN THE VICINITY OF 34 ALMA IN THE CONFEDERATE AVENUE RESIDENCES ARE SIX FEET DEEP TO ACCOMMODATE THE HIGH RISK OF FLOODING IN OUR AREA. CURRENTLY THERE IS NO STORMWATER SYSTEMS OR FACILITIES FOR ANY OF THE ALMA ROAD COMMUNITIES. WE NEED OUR WETLANDS BUT WE ALSO NEED OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IF COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES HOPE TO MINIMIZE THE DAMAGES THAT ARE IMPACTED FROM FILLING IN WETLANDS THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS LIKE INCORPORATING LARGE BODIES OF WATER AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE THIS WITHIN THE COUNTY IS FERN LAKES AND MR. THARP, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK OUT THE FIRST LAKES.

SOME DEVELOPMENT WAS BUILT IN 1983. IT COVERS A NUMBER OF HOMES AND IN THE 40 YEARS IT'S BEEN BUILT IT HAS NEVER FLOODED ONCE SO IF WE ARE WE'VE ALREADY SEEN JESSICA TALKED ABOUT THE FARM OFF OF BUCKWALTER WHAT HAPPENED DURING HURRICANE DEBBY OF THIS MOST RECENT YEAR AND IF OF THOSE BEFORE CITIZENS DID NOT HAVE NON-DISCLOSURE STATEMENTS WITHIN THE REACH OF WAYS THEY'D BE STANDING HERE TODAY BUT THEY BASICALLY SAID

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THAT THEY CAN'T COME HERE THEY CAN'T SPEAK BECAUSE OF FEAR OF LITIGATION.

SO WE KNOW WE CALL THIS PLACE THE LOW COUNTRY. THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING I ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO REJECT THE SPECIAL PERMIT TO FILL THE WETLAND LOCATED AT 34 ULMER AFTER WITNESSING DESTRUCTION FROM HOWLING AND DEBBIE THE COSTLIEST REPAIRS BEING RELATED TO FLOOD DAMAGE I THINK THAT OUR MODERN ACQUISITIONS CAN REDESIGN THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH A GREATER EMPHASIS ON INTEGRATING THE WATER AND THIS WOULD PROTECT THE OF ALL PARTIES INVOLVED YOUR ASSETS ARE ASSETS IN THE GREATER ASSETS OF THE COMMUNITY THANK YOU FOLKS SO MUCH I GOT THIS INFORMATION FROM THE INTERAGENCY COASTAL WETLANDS WORKGROUP THAT IN 2002 THE ARTICLE WAS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR REDUCING WETLAND LOSS COASTAL WATERSHEDS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THAT WAS THE EPA PUBLICATION 840 DASH ARE DASH 22001. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MATTHEW MATTHEW SHOEMAKER. HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING? ARE YOU GOOD? I'VE LIVED IN BLUFFTON MY WHOLE LIFE. I WAS BORN AND RAISED ON ALL JOY. I LIVE ON CONFEDERATE NOW. MY DAD YOU KNOW, HE GREW UP IN SWITZERLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA WENT 78, WAS A DIRT ROAD. SO I'VE SEEN IT ALL.

I'VE SEEN THE PICTURES. I KNOW THE HISTORY. I HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS GOING ON TILL I GOT A LETTER IN THE MAIL . I MEAN FIRST REACTION UPON FLOOD I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE LIKE I'M LOOKING AT THIS I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS REALITY.

THERE'S SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT. FIRST OFF, THE THE TREES I DON'T EVEN SEE.

ALL RIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW THE STUDY WHEN THE STUDIES WERE DONE BUT I.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IS EVEN HUMANLY POSSIBLE. I MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO BE SINKING WITH THE MACHINES IN. THEY'RE CUTTING THE TREES, THE TREES ARE JUST AS MUCH A PART OF THE WETLANDS AS THE WETLANDS . YOU HAVE THE CANOPY, YOU HAVE THE ROOT SYSTEMS, ALL OF THAT STUFF FILTERS THE WATER THAT'S GOING INTO THE RIVER.

THERE'S A COLD, THERE'S A PIPE THAT RUNS UNDERNEATH CONFEDERATE UNDERNEATH ALL JOY AND DON'T DIRECTLY INTO KIRK'S BLUFF I MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S THERE PEOPLE LIVED ON ALL THROUGH THEIR WHOLE LIFE HAVE NO IDEA I USED TO PLAY DOWN THERE IN THE IN THE CULVERT OFF OF KIRK'S BLUFF WITH ELLIS YOU GUYS YOU GUYS LIVE ON THAT? IT'S A PENINSULA. YEAH, I CALL IT A SPRING TIDE NOW IT'S A KING TIDE WHEN YOU HAVE A SPRING TIDE OR A KING TIDE THOSE DITCHES IF IT RAINS THOSE DITCHES ARE SLAP FALL ALL WAY UP TO THE HEAD A CONFEDERATE AND THAT WATER DOES NOT MOVE.

IF IT'S A HIGH TIDE THAT WATER WILL NOT MOVE UNTIL IT GOES OUT TO LOW TIDE THAT WHAT THE RIVER WORKS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THOSE WETLANDS THE COLUMN DITCH THEIR THEIR CREEKS THEY'RE THEIR FEEDER CREEKS THAT RUN ALL THROUGH THERE THEY'RE SIX FEET DEEP.

THAT'S NOT A DITCH. THAT'S A CREEK THAT RUNS INTO THE CREEK THAT GOES UNDERNEATH CONFEDERATE UNDERNEATH ALL THE WAY AND DIRECTLY INTO THE RIVER THE RIVER IS DYING I LIVE MY BROTHER OWNS ME RIVER EXCURSIONS I'M OUT THERE EVERY DAY THERE IS LESS FISH THERE IS LESS SHRIMP, THERE ARE LESS CRABS. YOU TAKE SOMEBODY OUT FROM UP NORTH THERE OH YOU GOT THREE SHRIMP? HOLY MOLY.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A SHRIMP. 30 YEARS AGO THAT WAS FIVE GALLON BUCKET OF SHRIMP.

I'M NOT MAKING UP. I'M SORRY. HOW MUCH TIME AGO THERE YOU.

WELL, I GOT TO TALK. WELL, I GOT SO SO TO TO TO FINISH IT UP NO TO THE EXTENSION OF THE ROAD THAT'S WHAT THIS PART. NO, NO, NO.

IF ANYTHING HOW CAN CHANGE THAT TO 200 FEET? NO, NO, NO, NO.

THEY SHOULD THE MONEY THAT THEY SPENT ON THE LAWYERS THAT THEY KNEW THAT WAS IN THERE BUT THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD GET IT PASSED. YOU THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC FOR THIS ITEM? IF NOT WE WERE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. JUST KNOW THAT ALL YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COUNTY THE APPLICANT AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A NUMBER OF CONCERN OH LET ME ASK YOU GUYS AFTER YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE COUNTY FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT WHAT YOU LIKE FOR US TO DO.

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I MEAN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND . WE TO DO A LOT OF FEEDBACK.

WE'D RATHER DEFER SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THIS FEEDBACK, WORK ON OUR DESIGN, WORK A BETTER WAY TO PRESENT IT WE CAN SHOW THE TREES ARE ALL OKAY WE DO WE RESPOND BRIEFLY JUST THE PROBLEM I MEAN NOT NOW BUT I THINK THE DECISION BASED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE SO MAYBE YOU ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT ARE MAYBE NOT HERE WITH OUR PLAN I THINK YOU CAN IT TODAY OR IF YOU PLAYED IT ALL COMING BACK NEXT MONTH OR WHENEVER IT IS A LOT OF THE ASKING QUESTIONS SO SO THEY CAN GO BACK UP THERE AND COME BACK TO US. I CAN AS WELL. THIS IS THE APPLICANT YOU KNOW.

YEAH PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL YOU DO IS MAKE A COMMENT WOULD YOU WANT US TO ADDRESS THOSE JOBS? WELL, HE DOES WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE SO I MEAN HE HE HAS THE APPLICANT HE HAS THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. I MEAN DO YOU NOT WANT TO HEAR SOME OF THE CONCERNS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE AND I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE Y'ALL HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND Y'ALL HAVE A CONVERSATION TOGETHER. I AGREE WITH THAT.

YEAH. YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT CAN I GUYS GOLF COURSE YOU DID BIGGEST ONE IS LISTED AS ME SO WHICH ARE SEPTIC TANKS I WAS WONDERING THE SAME BACK AND SEE THE THE THING THAT'S WHERE YOU BE GOING TO FOR IT WE DON'T ASK YOU IF WE'VE BEEN THERE OR ANYTHING WE'RE WE'RE AWARE OF THE SITUATION WE'RE GOING TO BUILD OUR WAY SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO DO? WHAT DO YOU WANT? DEFER THIS TO OUR NEXT OR UNTIL YOU CAN DO ALL OF YOUR HOMEWORK? YES, I'LL JUST IT AND THEN COME BACK AND SUBMIT BACK TO THE SRT . OKAY.

AND IF THAT'S YOUR REQUEST I CAN GRAB IT. YEAH.

SO YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR APPLICATION IF YOU CAN. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, DIDN'T ASK FOR BULLFIGHTERS ITEM.

YEAH, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND THIS MOTION THAT HE'S MAKING THIS DECISION TO APPROVE TO GO OVER THIS YEAH I GO AHEAD MAKE MY LAST COMMENT ON THE NUMBER WHETHER WERE THROWING IN THE COMMENT BUT YOU CAN COME FORWARD SAY WHATEVER IT IS. WELL, MY NAME IS JIM WALTON.

I LIVE AT 52 OYSTER STREET IN, THE AL JOY COMMUNITY EXCUSE ME EXCUSE OF I SIMPLY WANT TO FOLLOW UP WHAT MISS CAROLYN SAID BUT TO REALLY POINT THAT THIS IS A THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED T THREE EDGE WHICH READS THIS ZONE IMPLEMENTS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS GOALS OF PRESERVING RURAL CHARACTER IN PORTIONS OF COUNTY IT REINFORCES ESTABLISHED RURAL RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT ARE TYPICALLY IN THE TRANSITION BETWEEN MORE WALKABLE AREAS AND NATURAL PRESERVES AND WATERWAYS SUCH AS BAILEY MEMORIAL PASS PASSIVE PARK WHICH THE COUNTY IS ABOUT READY TO MINIMALLY DEVELOP AS A PASSIVE PARK WOULD BE SO I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD EVEN CONSIDER THIS IS NOT IN CHARACTER WITH T3 EDGE AND IT'S NOT IN CHARACTER WITH BAILEY WHICH IS ITS IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR. SO I, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT TO THE OWNER WENT INTO A A BAD DEAL IT SHOULDN'T BE BUILT THERE PERIOD THE DOES THE ZONING CODE THAT YOU HAVE THERE THIS CONFLICTS WITH YOU THANK YOU SIR THANK YOU SO SO DO YOU GUYS WANT TO WITHDRAW ALL YOU HAVE TO IS COME IN REQUEST TO WITHDRAW YOUR APPLICATION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, PLEASE WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. YES, SIR.

WITHDRAW THAT APPLICATION FOR FOR THE SPECIAL USE ESPECIALLY PERMIT AND THE VARIANCE.

YES THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID THE APPLICANT HAVE WITHDRAWN HIS APPLICATION FOR NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 16

[16. Pamela Brown is requesting a Variance from the requirements for the Finished Side of a Fence. The property is located at 96 Baywood Drive. The property is zoned Rose Hill Planned Unit Development (PUD).]

MS.. PAMELA BROWN WHO IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE THANKS FOR HAVING

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ME. I REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR MY FENCE.

I HAVE FENCE ON MY PROPERTY THAT'S JUST BETWEEN MINE AND MY NEIGHBORS.

IT'S NOT ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE IS A GAP BETWEEN THERE.

I SUBMITTED TO YOU SOME PAPERWORK WITH A PICTURE OF THE GAP.

THE REASON WHY THAT GAP EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS THAT MY NEIGHBOR SUBMITTED SOME STUFF MY PROPERTY AND I IT WAS I JUST WANTED TO GET A SENSE OF QUICKLY BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS CONTINUE FOR THE LAST 19 MONTHS TO HARASS AND TERRORIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I JUST QUICKLY PUT THE FENCE UP. I HAD A PERMIT THAT EXPIRED IN LAST NOVEMBER AND BEFORE EXPIRED I WAS GOING TO MOVE THIS FENCE TO THE PROPERTY LINE BUT. THE NEIGHBORS CALLED THE POLICE AND THEN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CAME AND CALLED ENFORCEMENT CAME AND WE DISCUSSED WITH THEM WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED AND I TOOK GAUCHO RECOMMENDED THAT I GET A NEW SURVEY DONE AND I REQUESTED THE REASON WHY I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE FENCE TO THE PROPERTY LINE IS ONE MY NEIGHBOR CONTINUES TO THROW JUNK BEHIND IT AND THROWS STUFF OVER THE FENCE AND HE HAS NOT TO.

THE FENCE WILL PREVENT THIS BUT HE HAS BROKEN MY WINDOWS SMASHED THINGS AGAINST MY HOUSE SMASHED THINGS AGAINST OTHER NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. HE HAS ACCOSTED ME HIT ME WITH A HE HAS SPREAD IT WITH A HOSE HE HAS SPAT AT ME HE HAS PARKED HIS CAR AT THE BOTTOM OF MY DRIVEWAY AND ME AND MY HOUSE AND HE THIS GOES ON ON WHERE HE IS GOING TO BE GOING TO JAIL SOON FOR TWO FOR SEVERAL CRIMES THAT HE HAS PLEADED GUILTY TO HE'S PLEADED GUILTY TO FIRST DEGREE HARASSMENT OF ME AND HE'S PLEADED GUILTY TO THREATENING TO KILL OFFICERS.

HE'LL BE SENTENCED HE'LL BE SENTENCED SHORTLY. BUT IN ALL DURING ALL THIS PROCESS I WILL GET A FENCE IN THERE AND GET IT PUT IN THAT'S CAUSING A DISTURBANCE BACK THERE. EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A RESTRAINING ORDER HE'S HERE.

HE WHENEVER I WHENEVER I'M ON MY FRONT LAWN HE CALLS THE POLICE IF I'M GARDENING OR TRYING TO CLEAN UP HE CALLS THE POLICE. IT'S CONSTANTLY TRYING TO GET ME ARRESTED. HE IS A FELON. HE'S A PEDOPHILE AND HE HAS ALREADY SPENT SEVEN YEARS IN JAIL AND HE WILL BE SPENDING YEARS IN JAIL SHORTLY ONCE HE'S SENTENCED HE SUPPOSED TO BE SENTENCED JANUARY 14TH BUT THERE HAS BEEN A DELAY TILL FEBRUARY IT'S COMING UP FEBRUARY 4TH OR SO. HE IS IT'S NOT JUST ME THAT HE'S AGGRESSING TOWARDS HE'S AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS THE FAMILY THAT LIVE NEXT TO ME AND HAVE MOVED THE FAMILY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HIS HOUSE WHERE THERE SEVERAL SENIOR CITIZENS LIVING HE IT'S HE THREATENED HE TRIED RUN DOWN MAMA WITH THE TRUCK ONCE HE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT HOUSE IS ANOTHER FAMILY HE THEM HE'S SO I JUST WANT AGAIN THE FENCE THE FENCE IS THERE I JUST WANT TO MOVE IT TO THE PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE HE CONTINUES TO DUMP THINGS AND I'M JUST TRYING TO ESTABLISH WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS SO THAT HE STOPS CALLING THE POLICE AND ACCUSING ME OF TRESPASSING WHEN I'M ON MY PROPERTY MULTIPLE TIMES OF BEING ON MY PROPERTY BEHIND MY FENCE. WELL HE'S CALLED THE POLICE TO SAY THAT I'M TRESPASSING SO I DON'T YOU KNOW, IT WAS SUGGESTED TO BECAUSE IF I HAVE THE FENCING THE GUYS COME, I ALREADY HAVE THE TEAM LINED UP. THEY HAVE TOLD ME THEY CAN'T NAIL THE FENCE IN FOR STANDING ON MY PROPERTY. THEY'D HAVE TO BE ON HIS PROPERTY AND HE WILL JUST THEM WHETHER HE'S IN JAIL OR NOT HIS WIFE WILL FILL IN IN THE HARASSMENT THAT SHE DOES THAT AS WELL. SHE HARASSES ANYONE WHO COMES AROUND. SO I WANT TO JUST HAVE THE FENCE JUST PUT FACE THE OTHER WAY AND PUT IT UP AND BE DONE WITH WITH THAT LITTLE OF THE NONSENSE THAT I'M LIVING