Jan 27, 2025 Public Facilities and Safety Committee

UH, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? SEEING NO OBJECTIONS? IT IS APPROVED.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS' COMMENT? UH, EITHER IN THE ROOM OR ONLINE? YES.

ORIGINATING FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

SO CITIZEN'S COMMENT WILL BE CLOSED AND MOVING INTO ITEMS

[7. AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF S-859 LOCATED AT SC 462 AND SC 170 WHICH IS TO BE ABANDONED BY SCDOT - Jared Fralix, P.E., Assistant County Administrator, Infrastructure]

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF 8 59 LOCATED AT SC 4 62 AND SC ONE 70, WHICH IS TO BE ABANDONED BY S-C-D-O-T.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WHAT ABOUT A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MR. FRA? YES.

THAT'S DOT'S NOMENCLATURE.

UH, VICE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE.

SO THIS IS A SECTION A ROAD.

THIS IS S 89.

UM, THIS IS A SECTION OF THE ROAD IN BETWEEN, UH, ACE AND THE TRIANGLE PORTION, ABOUT THREE ACRES THAT WAS PURCHASED LAST YEAR, COOLER TRACK B.

UH, IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE OLD ALIGNMENT OF SC ONE 70, UH, WHEN THEY REDID THAT BACK IN ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, UM, THAT WAS LEFT AS ESSENTIALLY THE DRIVEWAY TO ACE.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS COORDINATING WITH DOT FOR THE ACQUIRING THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD AND WHAT THAT PROVIDES FOR.

SO THAT'S THE PARCEL THAT WE BOUGHT LAST FALL.

AND THEN JUST TO THE NORTH OF THIS LINE IS THE ROAD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO 4 62 IS TO THE LEFT.

ONE 70 IS, IS, UH, THE EAST, WEST ROAD.

AND SO, UM, THIS IS NO NAMED S 5 89 AND 8 59.

AND THE GOAL IS FOR US TO ACQUIRE THAT.

SO THEN, UH, IF WE DO ANYTHING WITH THAT TRIANGLE PROPERTY OR COORDINATE WITH ACE, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT PROCESS WITH DOT, THEN IT WOULD JUST BE COORDINATION, UH, BETWEEN US AND ACE ON WHATEVER THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD LOOK LIKE.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JARED ON THIS ONE? NO.

AND THERE'S NO COST INVOLVED.

THIS WOULD BE A ACQUISITION STRAIGHT FROM DOT TO US.

A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT FUNDING PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROLINA ACT 2 26 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 TO 2025 STATE APPROPRIATIONS ACT IN THE AMOUNT OF 1.2 MILLION FOR THE ALL ENJOY BOAT LANDING IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OBJECT? ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS MOVING THIS FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTIONS? SEEING NO OBJECTIONS, THIS IS APPROVED.

ITEM EIGHT IS

[8. A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT FUNDING PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROLINA ACT 226 FY 2024-2025 STATE APPROPRIATIONS ACT IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,200,000 FOR THE ALLJOY BOAT LANDING IMPROVEMENT PROJECT - Bryan Bauer, Director of Engineering]

UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

SO THIS IS GONNA BE A, UH, RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT 1.2 MILLION OF DIRECT APPROPRIATIONS THROUGH DNR FOR THE ALL JOY BOAT LANDING.

UM, THIS IS A DIRECT ALLOCATION.

THIS IS NOT

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A GRANT, SO THERE'S NO MATCH REQUIREMENT.

THERE IS REPORTING THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT, BUT THIS IS JUST A DIRECT APPROPRIATION IN THE STATE BUDGET.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN AT THIS TIME? NO, I JUST WANNA STATE THAT, UH, THIS, UH, ACTUALLY CAME FROM, UH, MR. WESTON NEWTON WHO, UM, UH, GOT THIS MONEY FOR US THROUGH THE STATE AND ALSO MR. HERB KERMAN.

SO AGAIN, UM, IF YOU SEE THEM, AND AGAIN, THE ALL JOY FOLKS, LET THEM KNOW BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT CAME DIRECTLY AS A RESULT OF, OF MR. NEWTON AND MR. PERMAN.

WE THINK OUR STATE DELEGATION ON THIS, UM, GETTING THIS APPROVED.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENT OR QUESTIONS ON THIS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

IS THIS THE ONE TWO POINT MILLION THAT WESTON NEWTON GAVE, GOT US, GAVE, GOT FROM THE STATE TO GIVE TO US FOR TEARING DOWN THE HOUSE? SO WHAT, WHAT IT, THE WAY IT ALL CAME ABOUT WAS, UM, WE WERE LOOKING AND CONSIDERING SELLING THE HOUSE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE LANDING, RIGHT? SO THE PLAN WAS FOR US TO, UM, AGAIN, TAKE AS MUCH PROPERTY AS WE COULD, SELL THE HOUSE AND, AND RECOUP SOME MONEY AND, AND, AND USE THAT MONEY TO FIX UP THE LANDING THAT'S THERE.

'CAUSE AGAIN, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY, ANY OTHER PLACE.

UM, SO, UM, MR. NEWTON, UH, WAS ABLE TO GET THIS MONEY SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO SELL THE PROPERTY.

UM, AND FROM, FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, UM, WE'VE HAD A MEETING DOWN THERE, MR. MOORE, WE'VE GONE DOWN THERE.

THERE HAS NOT BEEN A DECISION YET, UM, AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING YET.

I MEAN, HASN'T NOTHING, NOTHING'S BEEN CONFIRMED.

THE PLAN, UM, IS, IS TO TEAR DOWN THE HOUSE.

'CAUSE AGAIN, WE CAN EXPAND THEN THE PARKING AND DO MORE THINGS DOWN THERE.

BUT, UH, AGAIN, THAT HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED.

UH, IS I, AM I CORRECT MR. MOORE? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND NUMBER ITEM NUMBER NINE ON THIS AGENDA, WE WILL, WE WILL TAKE THAT UP AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE THE RESOLUTION TO, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THE FUNDING.

THIS IS JUST THE ACCEPTANCE ON THIS ITEM.

UH, PERFECT SEGUE FOR IT.

SO NUMBER EIGHT IS ACCEPTANCE NUMBER NINE, CORRECT.

AND NUMBER NINE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THE PLAN BECAUSE I'M NOT UP FOR TEARING NAIL ON THAT HOUSE.

AND WE CAN OBVIOUSLY GO TO NUMBER NINE.

NUMBER NINE, OKAY.

RIGHT.

ASSUMING YOU PROVE NUMBER EIGHT FIRST, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO ACCEPTING THIS APPROPRIATION? SAYING NO.

OBJECTION.

THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION.

AND MOVING INTO NUMBER NINE,

[9. A RESOLUTION FOR THE ALLJOY BOAT LANDING IMPROVEMENTS - Jared Fralix, PE Assistant County Administrator - Infrastructure ]

SO RESOLUTION FOR THE ALL JOY BOAT LANDING IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, BRIAN, ARE YOU DOING PRESENTING THIS? OR JARED? OKAY.

OH, CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION? I'LL A MOTION.

WHO MADE THE MOTION FIRST? SO, TAB.

TAB.

A, UH, JUST BY STAFF HAND SKETCHED AND THEN PUT IN A COMMUTER.

PAUL, YOU MADE THE SECOND.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO DO A QUICK RECAP OF WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE ALL JEWELRY AREA.

SO OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, UM, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

UM, WE THEM ON VARIOUS TOPICS, NOT IN, UH, INCLUDING THE BOAT LANDING, BUT OTHERS TO INCLUDE STORMWATER, UH, PATHWAYS AND BEAUFORT.

JASPER HAS A WATER AND SEWER PROJECT IN THE AREA PLANNED.

UM, IN 2023, WE HAD A BOAT LANDING MASTER PLAN THAT WE LOOKED AT ALL THE BOAT LANDINGS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND WHAT THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE.

AND ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES AS IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN WAS EXPANDING BOAT LANDS, WHEREVER POSSIBLE.

SO IN THAT SAME YEAR, IN 2023, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO MULLET STREET, UH, BECAME AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET.

SO COUNCIL MOVED FORWARD TO TAKE, UM, UH, PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY.

AND THEN, UM, WITH THAT WE HAD THAT AND THE DISCUSSION WAS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? AND THROUGH A COMMUNITY MEETING, THAT'S WHERE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE NEWTON SAID, HEY, IF I GET MORE FUNDS FROM THE STATE, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING WE COULD EXPAND THE PARKING OR MAKE PUBLIC RESTROOMS? SO THAT FUNDING WAS PUT IN THE STATE BUDGET IN FY 25.

SO THIS CURRENT YEAR.

UM, BUT BETWEEN THEN LAST YEAR WE HAD ALREADY RECEIVED SOME A AND H TAX DOLLARS, LOCAL COUNTY A AND H TAX DOLLARS TO DO SOME REPAIRS, UH, AND REPLACEMENT.

AND SO LAST YEAR IN 2024, WE ACTUALLY REPLACED THE FLOATING DOCK THAT WAS REPLACED.

IT WAS A STRAIGHT, AND WE'VE REPLACED IT SINCE WITH A L SHAPE, EXPANDED A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN ALSO UPON FURTHER VALUATION, WE HAD PURCHASED THE PROPERTY ALREADY.

UM, AND THERE WAS A RESIDENTIAL DOCK ATTACHED TO THE PARCEL, BUT UNDER FURTHER EXPLORATION, IT WASN'T IN A GOOD SHAPE, UH, FOR PUBLIC USE.

SO WE REMOVED THAT AND WE HAVEN'T YET COME UP WITH A FULL PLAN ON WHAT, WHAT WAS GOING TO BE AT THE BOAT LANDING OR AT THE, UM, BOAT LANDING AREA.

SO, UM, JUST THIS PAST JANUARY 7TH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WE HOSTED A MEETING AT THE LIBRARY AT BLUFFTON BRANCH LIBRARY, AND THERE WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 50 OR 60 PEOPLE THERE.

AND FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. LAWSON AND VICE CHAIR, OR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, UM, AND MS. BROWN WERE ALL THERE.

AND WE HAD A RUDIMENTARY DRAWING.

UM, THIS IS KIND OF HAND SKETCHED IN A, IN

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AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS JUST THE OPPORTUNITIES TO TEASE OUT WITH THE COMMUNITY WHAT THE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD FIND OF INTEREST IN THE BOAT LANDING HERE.

AND ESSENTIALLY THE GOAL OF THAT MEETING.

AND NOW THE GOAL TO BRING A RESOLUTION TO COUNCIL IS TO DEFINE WHAT THE PROJECT IS AND TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION FOR US TO DEVELOP A PROJECT AND PUT THIS INTO IMPLEMENTATION.

SO USE THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE FROM A AND H TAX, PLUS THE FUNDS THAT WE'VE, UH, SECURED FROM THE STATE THROUGH REPRESENTATIVE NEWTON.

AND, UM, IN DOING SO, SO IF WE FLIP TO THE RESOLUTION, UM, SO I CAN TALK THROUGH THE KEY POINTS.

AND BASICALLY WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS TO TAKE THE INFORMATION GAINED, UM, THROUGH THAT COMMUNITY, THIS MOST RECENT COMMUNITY MEETING, AND TO TRY TO PUT THAT IN, UM, A FORMAT THAT IS OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY DESIGN DONE YET, BUT TO SAY, OKAY, STAFF, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE CHARTERED TO GO FORWARD AND DO.

AND SO THE MAJOR THING THAT WE HEARD WAS, THIS IS A BOAT LANDING.

WE WANT IT TO BE A BOAT LANDING.

SO ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO EXPAND PARKING, BOAT PARKING IS OUR TOP PRIORITY.

UM, SECONDLY TO THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF GOLF CARTS IN THE AREA, UM, THAT PEOPLE USE.

SO GOLF CART PARKING.

BUT WHAT THEY DIDN'T WANT IS IT TO BE A PARK LIGHT AND ATTRACT MORE REGULAR VISITORS.

UM, JUST, JUST CARS.

SO THAT'S THE KIND OF ORDER OF PRIORITY OF PARKING THAT THEY DESIRED.

UM, ANOTHER THING THAT WAS KEY TO THIS AREA AS WELL AS OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY WAS WATER QUALITY.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT, UM, TYPES OF PAVEMENT TYPES, UM, AND STORM WATER TREATMENTS.

BUT ESSENTIALLY I THINK THE MESSAGE THAT WE HEARD FROM COUNTY STAFF WAS, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE WITH OUR STORM WATER.

SO WHETHER, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH ASPHALTING OR ROCKING OR WHATEVER THAT MEASURE IS, UM, JUST WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, THE NEXT THING THAT WE HEARD AND DESCRIBED IN THIS RESOLUTION IS THE DEMOLITION OF THE HOUSE, UM, AND THE REPLACEMENT OF PUBLIC RESTROOMS AND EXPANDED PARKING WITH THE AVAILABLE AREA.

UM, FISHING, ONE THING THAT WE HEARD IS A LOT OF PEOPLE FISH ON THIS PIER.

SO THE IDEA OF REPLACING THE FISH, THE, THE PIER THAT WE WERE DEMOED ALREADY AND REPLACING THAT BAT WITH A SPECIFIC FISHING PIER, UM, WAS ATTRACTIVE.

AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT FISHING PIER WAS SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T ATTRACT BOATERS.

SO THE BOATERS HAVE THEIR EXPANDED BOATING, UH, DOCK THAT WE'VE ALREADY REPLACED.

SO WHATEVER WE DO TO MAKE THE FISHING PIER, UM, TO HAVE IT SEPARATE FROM FROM THE BOATING TRAFFIC.

AND THEN ONE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING MYSELF, BUT DISCUSSED WAS A PAVILION IS, UH, WE HAVE PAVILIONS AT A LOT OF OUR PASSIVE PARKS.

WAS THAT SOMETHING OF INTEREST TO THE COMMUNITY? AND THERE WAS A PRETTY LOUD, RESOUNDING NO.

UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, THEIR, THEIR GOAL IS, IS AS A COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS FIRST A BOAT LANDING AREA, NOT A PASSIVE PARK.

UM, THERE WAS DISCUSSION AROUND HAVING A, A PAVILION AREA AT THE END OF THE, THE FISHING PIER.

UM, SO YOU COULD GET OUT OF THE WEATHER.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BE, COULD BE CONTEMPLATED.

UM, AND THEN JUST ACCESS INSIDE THE BOAT LANDING, UM, HOW YOU PARK AND GET TO THE ACTUAL BOAT DOCK, UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED.

AND THEN ADJACENT TO THIS IS A, UM, BEACH ACCESS.

SO WE ALREADY HAD INFORMATION BACK FROM DNR AND OCRM, NOT D-N-R-O-C-R-M, UM, THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO REPLENISH THE, THE BEACH NOURISH RENOURISHMENT PROJECT JUST DUE TO THE MARSH TRYING TO RETAKE THAT AREA.

SO THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LOOK FAVORABLY UPON IN A PERMITTING PROCESS, BUT ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ENHANCE THE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT ARE THERE AND COORDINATE THAT WITH THE EXISTING, UM, PARKING THAT'S THERE.

AGAIN, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE, UM, PARK-LIKE ACTIVITIES, BUT WHAT THEY HAVE IF IT CAN BE IMPROVED.

SO THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE HEARD AND WE TRIED TO MEMORIALIZE THROUGH THIS RESOLUTION.

UM, WHAT WE WOULD DO NEXT IS THEN START THE ENGINEERING PROCESS, GO OUT FOR SOLICITATION AND ACTUALLY DEVELOP THIS AS A PROJECT.

ONCE WE HAVE AN ENGINEER ONBOARDED, THEN WE WOULD COME BACK WITH THESE COMPONENTS AND START SOME COST ESTIMATING TO EVALUATE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD VERSUS THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE.

AND THEN, UM, THERE WOULD BE MORE COMMUNITY INPUT AS WELL AS COMING BACK TO COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL VARIOUS TIMES THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GLADLY TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THAT WAS THE RECAP OF THAT MEETING AND THE INTENT OF THIS RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU, .

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM IN PARTICULAR? UH, WELL I KNOW YOU HAD SOME, SOME CONCERNS PREVIOUS ABOUT THE DEMOLITION.

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UM, I OBJECT TO BULLET POINT NUMBER THREE.

THAT'S UP THERE.

DEMOLISHING THE HOUSE AND FOR RESTROOMS, WHY CAN'T WE JUST PUT PORTABLE RESTROOMS IN BATHROOMS? YEAH.

SO THE INTENT AT THE HOUSE AND RENT IT OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN, 'CAUSE WHEN I FIRST CAME ON COUNTY COUNCIL TWO YEARS AGO, I THINK WE PAID LIKE 1.8 MILLION FOR THIS MM-HMM.

PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? AND WE GOT A GOOD DEAL ON IT.

RIGHT? BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE, IT PRAYS LIKE TWO POINT SOMETHING MILLION.

I I DON'T KNOW MY EXACT NUMBERS, BUT WE PAID ONE POINT, RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND NOW WE'RE GONNA TEAR DOWN A MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE BECAUSE WE GOT $1.2 MILLION IN THE STATE TO BUILD RESTROOMS. SO I OBJECT TO THAT.

UH, MS. BROWN, DO YOU WANNA MAKE ANY, ANY MOTIONS TO AMEND OR, WELL, LET ME, LET ME JUST FINISH THEN.

FIRST IS THAT WE HEARD IN THE MEETING WITH THE ALL JY FOLKS THAT PARKING WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

THAT HOUSE.

AND AGAIN, I'VE, I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH FOLKS DOWN THERE.

THAT HOUSE IS AN OLDER HOUSE.

UM, IT WOULD NEVER MEET A DA REGULATIONS, UM, IF WE DECIDED TO KEEP IT.

UM, AND THE, UM, THE OTHER ISSUE IS IF WE TRY TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THAT'S GOING TO EAT UP PARKING THAT COMES ALONG WITH, WITH THE LANDING.

SO, UM, AND THEN FOR US TO ACTUALLY ALSO DO THE BATHROOMS THAT ARE DOWN THERE, WE NEED A, A, A SEWER, UH, NOT SEWER, BUT A SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT THIS HOUSE HAS.

AND THAT'S, AGAIN, TO, TO PUT THESE BATHROOMS IN, WHICH IS, AGAIN, ANOTHER THING WE HEARD FROM FOLKS IS TO HAVE A, A, UM, UH, A BATHROOM FACILITY DOWN THERE.

UH, EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE SEWER TO THAT AREA, BUT IT MIGHT BE YEARS AWAY.

UM, SO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE BATHROOM FACILITIES BE BEFORE THIS.

SO, UM, REPRESENTING THAT AREA, AND AGAIN, I, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING AT THAT MEETING THAT WE HAD FOR ALL JOY AND YOU WERE THERE.

UM, THE MAINTENANCE ON THIS HOUSE AND WHAT WE'D HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW TO FIX IT UP, TO MAKE IT SO WE COULD RENT IT MM-HMM .

UM, IT WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE THEN FOR US TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT MAINTENANCE WHENEVER WE HEARD THAT, THAT WHAT THEY WANT IS MORE PARKING AND, AND THAT ALL JOY, UM, UH, BOAT LANDING AREA, UH, SO LONG TERM, UM, YOU, YOU THINK ABOUT PARKING FOR YEARS TO COME, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GAIN THIS PROPERTY BACK IF WE SELL IT.

UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY MUCH NEEDED IN BLUFFTON.

UH, WE ONLY HAVE THREE LANDINGS RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS, UM, THE OYSTER COMPANY, ALL JOY AND THEN SAWMILL CREEK.

RIGHT.

UM, SO AGAIN, WE'RE VERY LIMITED, SO WE HAVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT WE HAVE AND EXPAND WHAT WE CAN.

SO, UM, THE HOUSE BEING OLDER, UM, I, THE THE VALUE IS IN THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S WHAT THE VALUE THE LAND.

THE LAND, YES.

THE LAND, THE LAND IS WHERE THE VALUE IS AND IT'S, IN MY OPINION, IT'S NOT IN THE HOUSE.

UM, IT, IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND, AND HAVING, YOU KNOW, UM, WATER VIEW AND BEING RIGHT THERE AT, AT THE LANDING.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE LONG TERM IT IS A MUCH, MUCH VIABLE, BETTER FINANCIAL SITUATION AND BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE OF ALL JOY FOR US TO LOOK AT RAISING THE HOUSE AND, AND EXPANDING THE BOAT LANDING.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU, MR. AL ALSO WOULD BE, SINCE YOU AL JOY IS YOUR DISTRICT AND I HAVE JUST A LITTLE SLICE OF IT, AND YOU KNOW, THE TEMPERATURE OF THE PEOPLE THERE.

DO THE PEOPLE WANT THE HOUSE? MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WENT TO TORE DOWN SO THEY HAVE MORE PARKING AND RESTROOMS. AND WE HEARD THIS AT, AT THE MEETING WAS THAT THAT MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WERE GLAD AND HAPPY THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA KEEP THE HOUSE AND TO TEAR IT DOWN AND EXPAND THEN THE PARKING AND THE BATHROOMS AND ALL THAT DOWN THERE.

AND THEY WERE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

AND THAT JARED, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU YEAH.

AND THE MAJORITY, UH, WE ACTUALLY KIND OF OLD FASHIONED RAISED HANDS, UH, JUST TO ACTUAL VIS VISIBLY SEE.

RIGHT.

AND, UH, IT WAS A LARGE PART OF THE ROOM.

APPRECIATED EXPANDED PARKING IN THE BATHROOMS. 'CAUSE I MEAN, I JUST RECEIVED EMAILS AND I JUST, I DUNNO, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING, WE'LL, WE'LL GET THE PLAN BACK AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE STILL IN THAT PLANNING STAGE.

IS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, JARED AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND I'VE TALKED TO FOLKS DOWN THERE TOO THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME AS A FACT THAT WE'D MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD BUFFER THE HOUSES THAT ARE RIGHT THERE WITH SOME LANDSCAPING FENCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

OH, OKAY.

SO THEN IT, IT WOULD NOT, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING FOR THOSE COUPLE HOUSES THAT ARE RIGHT THERE.

I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY COMPLAINT THAT I HEARD FROM ONE OR TWO PEOPLE LIVE RIGHT THERE AS WELL.

IF YOU TAKE THAT DOWN, WELL THEN THE BOAT LANDING IS GONNA BE IN MY FRONT YARD.

BUT, BUT AGAIN, IF WE DO THE RIGHT THING AND, AND HANDLE IT CORRECTLY, WE CAN SCREEN IT, UM, FROM THOSE AREAS.

AWESOME.

SO, OKAY, SO GARY, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? DO YOU WANNA DO A SHOW? THINK? YEAH, FOR THIS ONE, WON'T WE DO A SHOW OF HANDS? UH, ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HANDS.

AND I DON'T SEE LOGAN.

OH, THERE'S LOGAN.

GOTCHA.

ALRIGHT, SO I BELIEVE THAT'S JUST ONE OBJECTION.

THAT'S MS. BROWN OBJECTING.

ALRIGHT, SO IT DOES PASS AND WE'LL GO ON TO COUNCIL, UH, MOVING FORWARD NOW TO ITEM 10

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AND ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO, SORRY, THAT ONE YOU YEP.

SORRY.

DAWSON HAD A QUESTION.

OH, I, WHERE'S WHERE'S WE'RE SEEING? I DON'T SEE MR. IT MUST BE THE LIGHT, LIGHT .

OH, SORRY, MR. DAWSON DIDN'T EVEN DIDN'T SEE YOU THERE.

I JUST FOREHEAD.

THERE WE GO.

CAN'T HEAR YOU.

I CAN HEAR YOU BUT CAN'T SEE YOU.

I'M HAVING, AND SO IF, IF I CAN GET SIERRA TO GET SOMEBODY, GIVE SOME HELP OVER HERE, I'LL, I'LL BE IN AND OUT OF THE MEETING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES SIR.

WE CAN HEAR YOU.

I'M, I, I CAN HEAR YOU.

I I JUST CAN'T, I CAN'T KEEP, DID DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS, UH, ITEM NINE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO 10? DAVID, DID YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, I, I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

ON TO ITEM 10, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE TRANSFER OF RIGHT OF WAY BACK TO PROPERTY OWNERS OF PARCEL.

I, I SAID I'M GOOD.

I'M ON BOARD WITH IT.

OH, OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, SO MOVING

[10. AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE TRANSFER OF RIGHT OF WAY BACK TO PROPERTY OWNERS OF PARCEL R110 008 000 0653 0000 OR TRACT 13, PARCEL R110 008 000 0654 0000 OR TRACT 12, PARCEL R110 008 000 0656 0000 OR TRACT 10, AND PARCEL R110 008 000 0658 0000 OR TRACT 8 AS SHOWN ON EXHIBIT” A” PAGES 1-4 ASSOCIATED WITH RIBAUT ROAD SIDEWALK PROJECT IN PORT ROYAL - Bryan Bauer PE, ENV SP, Director of Engineering]

R 1 1 0 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 6 5 3 0 0 0 OR TRACK 13 PARCEL R 100 0 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 6 5 4 0 6 5 4 0 0 0 0 OR TRACK 12, UH, PARCEL R 1 10 0 0 8, 0 0 0 0 6 5 6, 0 0 0 0 OR TRACK 10.

AND PARCEL R 1 1 0 0 0 8, 0 0 0 0 6, 5, 8, 0, 0, 0 0 OR TRACK EIGHT AS SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A.

PAGES ONE THROUGH FOUR ASSOCIATED WITH REBO ROAD SIDEWALK PROJECT IN PORT ROYAL RYAN.

OH, CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN DISCUSSION? I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN DISCUSSION.

UH, SECOND ON THAT.

MM-HMM .

I'LL SECOND IT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU RYAN.

SO THIS IS THE REBO ROAD SIDEWALK THAT GOES FROM RON LANE TO LENORE DRIVE.

THIS WAS PART OF THE 2018 SALES TAX.

UM, PART OF THAT PROJECT INCLUDED THE RELOCATION, UM, AND RECONSTRUCTION OF A WOODEN PRIVACY FENCE, UM, NEXT TO THE SIDEWALK.

SO WE GAINED RIGHT AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS THERE TO BUILD THAT FENCE.

UM, SEVERAL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE NOW SOLD AND UH, IT TURNS OUT THE FENCE WAS ON THE DOT RIGHT OF WAY AND THEY'VE REFUSED TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY, OWNERSHIP OF THAT FENCE.

SO THIS IS TO RETURN ABOUT 70 SQUARE FOOT OF RIGHT OF WAY TO FOUR DIFFERENT PARCELS TO TRACK 8, 10, 12, AND 13.

UM, SO THE DOT WILL THEN TAKE THE SIDEWALK INTO THEIR MAINTENANCE SYSTEM.

YOU DON'T WANNA READ THE NUMBERS.

TRYING TO KEEP THIS, UH, KEEP IT THIS QUICK.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? THESE ARE, JUST TO CLARIFY, THESE ARE THE CONDOS THAT ARE ON, UM, YES MA'AM.

REBEL ROAD, THAT BACK UP? YES, MA'AM.

ON AND THE SIDEWALK'S BEEN COMPLETED? YES MA'AM.

YEP.

ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE LOW COUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, UH, SAFETY ACTION PLAN AND TARGET ZERO POLICY.

AND ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, SEEING NO, UH, FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER, UH, CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION? YES.

SEEING NO OBJECTION, THIS WILL BE MOVED FORWARD, UM, TO COUNTY COUNCIL.

UH, MOVING TO

[11. A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE LOWCOUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS (LCOG) SAFETY ACTION PLAN AND TARGET ZERO POLICY - Bryan Bauer, Director of Engineering]

UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AND A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU BRIAN.

BRIAN'S ALL YOURS AGAIN.

UM, SO ON THIS ONE, THE LOW COUNTRY COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS ELK HOG AND THEIR PLANNING ARMED LATS, UM, LOW COUNTRY AREA TRANSIT STUDY, RECEIVE A SAFE STREETS FOR ALL GRANT TO DEVELOP A, UH, TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

SO THAT PLAN CAME IN, THEY LOOKED AT THE STATISTICS OF THE FOUR COUNTY AREA, UM, AND GAVE A LOT OF REALLY GREAT INFORMATION ON OUR ROADWAY SAFETY IN THE COUNTY.

UM, AND ALSO ALONG WITH IT GAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE ROADWAY SYSTEM LOCALLY, UM, TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND LOOKING AT HIGH CRASH AREAS.

UM, PART OF THAT WAS ALSO A PLEDGE TO ADOPT THE TARGET ZERO POLICY, WHICH HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY, UM, FEDERALLY BY FHWA AND THE, UH, AT THE STATE LEVEL BY S-C-D-O-T THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, TO WORK AND WITH THE GOAL OF, UH, GETTING AS CLOSE TO ZERO FATALITIES AND, UM, SEVERE CRASHES AS POSSIBLE, UM, WHILE KEEPING IN MIND THAT, UH, DRIVERS DO MAKE MISTAKES AND WE SHOULD TRY TO PLAN FOR THAT.

UM, SO ELCO AND LATS HAVE ADOPTED THIS BY RESOLUTION.

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SO THIS IS BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO ADOPT, UH, IN THE COUNTY AS MOVING FORWARD.

AND THIS WILL HELP US JUST HAVING THE PLAN REGIONALLY WILL HELP US IF WE GO FOR, UH, FEDERAL GRANTS, ESPECIALLY LIKE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL.

AND, UM, IF WE ADOPT IT, WE'LL JUST IT MORE, UH, BACKING FOR IT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR BRIAN ABOUT THIS? ANYBODY ONLINE? NO.

UH, SEEING NO, UH, QUESTIONS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION? CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION? NO, SIR.

ITEM 12, TRAFFIC CALMING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE SHELL POINT NEIGHBORHOODS.

SEEING NO OBJECTION, IT IS APPROVED.

UH, MOVING ON TO

[12. TRAFFIC CALMING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE SHELL POINT NEIGHBORHOOD - Bryan Bauer, Director of Engineering]

UH, I MAY HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN DISCUSSION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO FOR DISCUSSION.

UH, BRIAN, IT'S YOURS AGAIN.

SO THIS ONE GOES BACK A LITTLE WAYS, BUT THE RESIDENTS IN THE SHELL POINT AREA HAVE, UH, LOOKED AT OUR RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, SPEEDING AND SAFETY IN THE SHELL POINT AREA, SPECIFICALLY SHELL POINT DRIVE BROAD RIVER DRIVE AND DOGWOOD STREET.

UM, THE, IT'S, THESE ARE ALL DOT ROADS.

THE DOT TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY SAYS IT THEN GOES TO THE MUNICIPALITY TO LOOK AT TRAFFIC CALMING.

SO TWO DIFFERENT STUDIES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ON THIS.

UM, AND OUT OF THAT CAME RECOMMENDATION FOR SEVEN SPEED HUMPS AND ONE RAISED INTERSECTION.

UM, AND SO AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC DOT TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PETITION OF THE HOMEOWNERS OR A, UH, RESOLUTION FROM COUNSEL, UH, REQUESTING THE TRAFFIC CALMING.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE THAT RESOLUTION TO, UH, REQUEST THE TRAFFIC CALMING TO THEN GO TO DOT TO FOR APPROVAL OF THE, UH, TRAFFIC CALMING PLAN.

YEAH, I I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A QUESTION.

IS THERE ANY COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS RIGHT NOW OR JUST THE, THERE'S NO FUNDS FOR IT? NOT RIGHT NOW.

JUST, YEAH, THIS IS JUST TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAN TO THEN SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE ENCROACHMENT PERMIT FOR IT.

UM, BUT YEAH, THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF IT RIGHT NOW.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS MATTER? JUST, JUST THAT THIS HAS BEEN A NEED FOR A LONG TIME.

WHEN THEY BUILT THE MONTESSORI SCHOOL, IT CAUSED A LOT OF TRAFFIC ISSUES PLUS, UM, THAT, THAT ROAD, BROAD RIVER ROAD IS, UM, A ROAD THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO SPEED ON AND SEVERAL BAD ACCIDENTS ON IT.

I KNOW THIS HAS COME UP, SO HOPEFULLY THINGS HAVE MOVED FORWARD.

UM, I JUST ADD THAT ALTHOUGH THERE'S NO FUNDING, THIS IS THE NEXT STEP.

WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT STEPS TO GET THE ENCROACHMENT PERMIT AND MOVE FORWARD UNTIL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, WE HAVE THIS RESOLUTION.

UM, I QUESTIONED WHETHER THE CTC COULD PROVIDE FUNDING THAT'S, UH, IT SIGNED.

I'M SORRY I MISSED THE MEETING, BUT I WOULD'VE RAISED IT THERE.

YEAH, THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'D HAVE AT THE NEXT RETREAT, WHICH IS ON FEBRUARY 5TH FOR THE CTC.

SO IT'S GONNA BE DISCUSSED.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. LAWSON.

YEAH, WE CAN BRING THAT UP.

THANKS CHAIRMAN.

YES MA'AM, I'LL BE THERE.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MATTER AND CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION, I CAN'T SEE THE FOLKS ONLINE.

IS THERE, UH, ANY OBJECTION ONLINE? NO OBJECTIONS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

WHERE, WHERE DID LOGAN GO? KEEP LOSING FOLKS.

LOGAN, ANY OBJECTION? UH, OKAY.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE THIS FORWARD.

I DON'T SEE ANY OBJECTION.

UM, AND MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM

[13. AUTHORIZE THE ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING (MOU) BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE PALMETTO CLEAN FUELS COALITION - Bryan Bauer, PE –Director of Engineering]

HERE.

ITEM 13, UH, AUTHORIZE THE ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE PALMETTO CLEAN FUELS COALITION.

UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN DISCUSSION? A MOTION.

ALRIGHT, MS. BROWN WITH A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

UH, BRIAN, I BELIEVE YOU'RE STILL UP.

UH, SO THE PELA CLEAN FUELS COALITION WAS STARTED BY THE STATE OFFICE OF ENERGY.

IT'S ONE OF A HUNDRED COALITIONS IN THE ACCOUNT IN THE STATE.

UM, THIS IS THE COUNTY ACTUALLY BECAME A STAKEHOLDER IN 2013, BUT IT WAS NOT MOVED FORWARD BY RESOLUTION.

THEY HAVE UPDATED THE MOU FOR THE, UH, TO BE A STAKEHOLDER IN THE COALITION.

SO THIS IS BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO GET AT MORAN UNDERSTANDING, UH, READOPTED THROUGH RESOLUTION, UM, TO CONTINUE AS A STAKEHOLDER.

THERE'S NO FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.

IT BASICALLY GIVES NOTICE OF RESEARCH PROJECTS, GRANT FUNDING AND UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO ANY QUESTIONS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS MATTER? SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION? ANY OBJECTION OR ANY COMMENT FROM FOLKS ONLINE? ALRIGHT, WITH NO OBJECTION, THIS WILL BE MOVED FORWARD.

UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THE FISCAL IMPACT HERE IS GONNA BE $440,062 AND 77 CENTS.

UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM

[14. SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT AWARD TO PAVEMENT TECHNOLOGY INC. FOR YEAR 8 REJUVENATOR (Fiscal Impact: $440,062.77 The contract fee is for materials and construction in the amount of $400,057.07. Staff recommends a 10% contingency of $40,005.71, bringing the project’s total cost to $440,062.77. The funding for this project will be CTC Infrastructure account number 2343-30-0000-54500 with a balance of $5,541,909.41) - Bryan Bauer Director, Beaufort County Engineering.]

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UH, SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT AWARD TO PAVEMENT TECHNOLOGY INCORPORATED FOR YEAR EIGHT REJUVENATOR.

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THE CONTRACT FEE IS FOR MATERIALS AND CONSTRUCTION AND THE AMOUNT OF $400,057 AND 7 CENTS.

UH, STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS A 10% CONTINGENCY OF $40,005 AND 71 CENTS BRINGING THE TOTAL PROJECT COST TO $440,062 AND 77 CENTS.

AND THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE FROM THE CTC INFRASTRUCTURE ACCOUNT, UH, WITH A BALANCE OF $5,541,909 AND 41 CENTS.

UH, MAY HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

ALRIGHT, UM, MS. TABER NECK WITH A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.

SECOND IT.

AND MS. BROWN WITH A SECOND.

UM, BRIAN, I THINK YOU'RE STILL UP.

YEP, THAT'S ME.

UM, SO THIS MAKES UP ONE OF THE THREE CONTRACTS WE DO ANNUALLY FOR OUR RESURFACING PROGRAM.

ONE IS OUR STANDARD RESURFACING, WHICH IS JUST REGULAR HOT MIX ASPHALT.

SECOND ONE IS PAVEMENT PRESERVATION.

AND THEN, UM, ASPHALT REJUVENATOR IS THE THIRD ONE.

SO THIS IS BASICALLY WE COME BACK, UM, A COUPLE YEARS AFTER PAVING A ROAD AND THIS IS A TOPICAL TREATMENT THAT GOES ON AND IT ADDS SOME NUTRIENTS TO FLEXIBILITY BACK TO THE ROAD TO HELP PREVENT, UH, FUTURE CRACKING AND, UM, DISTRESSES TO IT.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO ADD THREE TO FIVE YEARS ONTO THE LIFE OF THE ROAD FOR A FRACTION OF THE COST OF DOING OTHER PRESERVATION TECHNIQUES.

UM, I THINK THE PRICE WE GOT THIS YEAR WAS A DOLLAR 23 A SQUARE YARD VERSUS ANYTHING ELSE WHICH IS $7 A SQUARE YARD.

SO THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE COUNTY GOING BACK TO 20 17 20 18.

IT IS A PROPRIETARY MATERIAL AND PAVEMENT TECHNOLOGIES IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS LICENSED TO APPLY IT IN THE SOUTHEAST, WHICH IS WHY IT IS A SOLE SOURCE PROCUREMENT.

SORRY, I'M GLAD YOU ANSWERED THAT 'CAUSE I'M SURE TAB WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT THE SOLE SOURCE, BUT I KNOW THAT FROM THE CTC AND FROM JARED, SO IT IS PROPRIETARY.

AND, AND THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED AT THE CTC IN JANUARY TO COME FORWARD TO YOU.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? NOPE.

UH, WHAT ABOUT THE FOLKS ONLINE? I CAN'T SEE ANYBODY ONLINE.

ARE YOU OKAY? OKAY.

I'M GOOD, DAVE.

I'M GOOD.

ANYTHING FROM FOLKS ONLINE? THANK YOU SIR.

LOGAN, DAVE, CAN YOU HEAR ME ALRIGHT? UH, SEEING NO FURTHER, UM, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS.

IF, UH, CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION? YES.

SEEING NO OBJECTION, THIS WILL BE MOVED FORWARD.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND NOW MOVING FORWARD TO

[15. APPROVAL OF A TASK ORDER TO J.H. HIERS, INC OF BEAUFORT, SC FOR HICKORY HILL DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT (Fiscal Impact: $303,831.00 Stormwater Utility, from account code 5025-90- 9020-54420. Available funds: $1,671,495.87) - Jared Fralix, P.E., Assistant County Administrator – Infrastructure]

THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

ITEMS, ITEM 15 IS THE APPROVAL OF A TASK ORDER TO J HIRES INCORPORATED OF BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA FOR HICKORY HILL DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT.

UH, THE FISCAL IMPACT IS $303,831, UH, COMING FROM THE STORM STORMWATER UTILITY ACCOUNT AND THE AVAILABLE FUNDS ARE $1,671,495 AND 87 CENTS.

AND I BELIEVE MR. HARRIET, ARE YOU GONNA BE DOING THE PRESENTATION? YES, SIR.

UH, CAN I GET A, BEFORE THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION? I'LL SECOND MAKE A MOTION.

ALRIGHT, TAB WITH THE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND, TOM? WITH THE SECOND.

ALRIGHT, BRADLEY, IT'S ALL YOURS.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMITTEE.

UH, YES.

SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED DURING THE, UM, ST.

HELENA ISLAND OVERALL DRAINAGE STUDY.

UM, THERE WERE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WERE DISCOVERED, BUT THIS WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR ONES.

UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GOING IN THERE AND UPGRADING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THOSE TWO HIGHLIGHTED AREAS YOU SEE THERE IN YELLOW.

SO WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PIPING, UM, I THINK FROM 36 INCH TO 48 INCH TO IMPROVE THAT DRAINAGE IN THOSE TWO AREAS.

AND THEN THAT LAST LITTLE, UM, PIECE OF RED THERE TO THE END, THE KINDA LONG HIGHLIGHTED PIECE, THAT SECTION ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH A, A, A PROPERTY OWNERS THERE.

AND THAT'S A REALLY DEEP DITCH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

WE DO HAVE DEEP DITCHES ON SANTA HELENA.

UM, SO THE DEEP DITCH THERE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA PIPE IN BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO DEEP FOR US TO MAINTAIN AND TWO, DANGEROUS FOR US TO MAINTAIN, UM, WITH EQUIPMENT.

SO WE'RE GONNA PIPE THAT IN TO, UM, MAKE THAT A EASIER MAINTAIN EASEMENT THERE.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS MATTER? CAN I JUST ADD ONE THING? NO MEANS, UM, BETWEEN ITEM 15 AND 16, IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY MR. HARRIET TO, UH, SEGUE TO HIRES AND WHAT WE'RE DOING AT BAY PINES, I'D LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE ON IT AS WELL IF YOU HAVE IT BASED ON THE SAME TYPE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

NOT, NOT RIGHT NOW.

TOM.

I I THINK WE'RE GONNA STICK TO THE TASK AT HAND.

WE'LL MAKE SURE TO JUST ASK THAT LATER IF THAT'S OKAY.

DISCUSSION, CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION? YES.

SURE.

UM, ALRIGHT, UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY ONLINE? ALL RIGHT.

UM, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? WELL, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

OH, I THINK AT A GENDER REVIEW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BID WAS PUT OUT TWICE.

THIS IS A DIFFERENT ONE.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE ONE THAT WAS PUT OUT OUT TWICE.

LEMME SAY HERE, I, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.

I WAS THERE AT THAT MEETING WITH YOU AND I KNOW THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WILL GREATLY APPRECIATE THIS MOVING FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.

UM, WITH NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR

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UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM

[16. APPROVAL OF A TASK ORDER TO J.H. HIERS, INC OF BEAUFORT, SC FOR TUXEDO PARK DETENTION POND REHABILITATION PROJECT (Fiscal Impact: $474,590.88 funded by Stormwater Utility, from account code 5025-90-9020-54420. Available balance: $1,671,495.87 ) - Jared Fralix, P.E., Assistant County Administrator – Infrastructure]

16.

UH, THE APPROVAL OF A TASK ORDER TO JH HIRES INCORPORATED OF BEAUFORT SOUTH CAR, BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA FOR TUXEDO PARK DETENTION POND, UH, REHABILITATION PROJECT.

LOOKS LIKE THE FISCAL IMPACT IS $474,590 AND 88 CENTS FUNDED THROUGH THE STORMWATER UTILITY ACCOUNT.

UH, LOOKS LIKE ONCE AGAIN THE AVAILABLE BALANCE IS $1,671,495 AND 87 CENTS.

UM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN UP DISCUSSION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MOTION TO OPEN UP DISCUSSION.

UM, BRADLEY, IT'S ALL YOURS AGAIN.

SO THIS IS A PROJECT AGAIN IDENTIFIED THROUGH A DRAINAGE STUDY ON THE LA THE NORTHERN LADIES ISLAND AREA.

UM, THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE KIND OF BIG TICKET ITEMS. IT'S AN AREA THEY, THERE'S A BUNCH OF LITTLE SMALL AREAS THEY PICK OUT, BUT WE TRY TO PICK THE BIGGER AREAS IT'S GONNA HAVE THE MOST IMPACT, GET THE MOST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK.

SO THIS AREA IS A, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A RETENTION POND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, D**E OFF I WHO, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE PROBABLY SIXTIES OR SO.

SO ANYHOW, A POND HAS SILTED IN OVER THE YEARS.

SO A LOT OF DRAINAGE GOES THROUGH THIS POND HAS SILTED IN OVER THE YEARS.

SO IT'S TAKEN UP A LOT OF CAPACITY.

UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE GONNA EXCAVATE THIS.

UM, I THINK THERE TOTAL YARDAGE WAS ABOUT 6,000 CUBIC YARDS, SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT NUMBER THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUTTA THAT POND TO CREATE THAT MUCH MORE STORAGE FOR THAT AREA.

AND MISS TAB TO ANSWER THIS ONE, THIS ONE HAD WENT OUT FOR BID PRIOR TO TWICE AND IT WAS OVER BUDGETED TWICE.

UM, I THINK WE HAD KIND OF PUT IT OUT FOR BUDGET AS A DREDGING PROJECT.

SO TYPICALLY DREDGING PROJECTS, YOU DON'T SEE DREDGING IN INTERIOR PONDS LIKE THIS.

UM, IN THIS LINE OF WORK, USUALLY YOU DEWATER THE POND AND THEN GO IN AND JUST EXCAVATE THE DIRT AND HAUL THE HAUL THE MATERIAL OUT.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHY IT WAS RUNNING OVER BUDGET ON THOSE TWO THINGS.

'CAUSE DREDGING GETS PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

OH YEAH.

'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO STORE ALL THE MATERIAL AND DO SOMETHING WITH THE WET MATERIAL.

SO WE'RE GONNA DEWATER THE POND AND THEN HAUL IT OUT.

AND THIS ALSO WILL REPLACE THE TUXEDO PARK ENTRANCE.

THE ASPHALT AIR'S PRETTY OLD.

UM, SO IT'S WHEN WE GO TO HAUL THAT MATERIAL OUT THERE OR THE CONTRACTOR HAULS OUT THERE, THEY'RE GONNA TEAR THOSE ROADS UP.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST GONNA TEAR THE ASPHALT UP.

SO WE DID FIGURE INTO THAT PRICE TO GO AHEAD AND REPAVE THAT ROAD, UM, WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION'S FINISHED.

UH, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? JUST A REAL QUICK QUESTION.

SO THE SPOILS IS, IS IT USABLE SPOILS? ARE WE PAYING TO, WELL, WE'RE GONNA, SO WE'RE GONNA HAUL IT TO A COUNTY FACILITY ACTUALLY OUT ON ST.

HELENA.

WE HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY OUT ON ST.

HELENA ISLAND THAT WE HAUL OUR SPOILS OUT OF OUR ROADSIDE DITCHES.

SO HOPEFULLY IF THE MATERIAL, PROBABLY THE TOP 18 INCHES MATERIAL IS PROBABLY NOT SUITABLE.

UM, BUT THE BELOW THAT IT'S PROBABLY GOOD SAND.

SO DEPENDING ON HOW FAR WE CAN GET TO WHERE WE GET DOWN TO THE, YOU KNOW, WE CALL KIND OF RIVER MUD LAYER, IF WE GET INTO THAT, THAT MATERIAL WON'T BE SUITABLE.

SO WE MAY JUST USE IT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WE GOTTA SPOIL AREA, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT IT SHANKING, IT WILL HAUL IT.

BUT IF IT'S GOOD MATERIAL, WE'LL STOCKPILE IT, SCREEN IT AND YOU KNOW, USE IT FOR STRUCTURAL FILL SOMEWHERE.

GOOD.

CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM LIST FOR BUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ANY, ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY ONLINE? ALRIGHT, SEEING NOTHING, CAN THIS MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION? ALRIGHT, THIS IS APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION.

UH, THANK YOU MR. HARRIET.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALL FROM PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL, ISN'T IT? YES SIR.

ALRIGHT, AND WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING INTO THE ITEMS COMING FROM THE AIRPORT, UM, DEPARTMENT.

AND ITEM NUMBER 17 IS AIRPORT

[17. AIRPORT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM LIST FOR BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT - Jon Rembold, Airports Director]

UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND OPEN UP DISCUSSION? DON'T EVER, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

SECOND.

SECOND THAT.

THANK YOU MR. LAWSON.

UH, MR. REET.

SUBMITTED THESE TO THE FAA.

HEY JOHN, HOW YOU DOING? I GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.

WE DID A LOT OF, UH, SNOW AND ICE CHIPPING LAST WEEK AND GOT EVERYTHING BACK ON OUR WAY, SO IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING.

BUT, UM, THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL ITEM FOR YOU AS IS THE, THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS THE, THE CIP LIST FOR HILTON AND ISLAND AIRPORT.

UM, WE TRY TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF YOU EACH YEAR JUST SO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT EACH OF THE AIRPORT'S PLANS FOR THE NEXT FIVE TO SIX.

SOMETIMES WE LOOK OUT SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AND WE WORK TOGETHER WITH THE FAA TO PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER.

AND IT, IT KIND OF GIVES THE FAA AN IDEA OF, OF WHAT WE WANNA WORK ON.

IT'S IN KEEPING WITH KIND OF WHAT THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE PLANS THAT THE AIRPORT NEEDS TO BE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEN IT HELPS THEM ALLOCATE VERY SCARCE FEDERAL DOLLARS, UM, TO AIRPORTS GIVING AN IDEA OF THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE FAA HAS FOR, FOR PROJECTS ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IN A GIVEN YEAR.

IT'S BEEN HELD STEADY AT ABOUT 3.35 BILLION, UM, FOR THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

IT, IT WAS THE FAA REAUTHORIZATION ACT THAT WAS APPROVED LAST MAY, UH, INCREASE AT THE $4 BILLION.

SO IT WAS $4 BILLION SPREAD ACROSS, YOU KNOW, LIKE 3,500 COMMERCIAL AIRPORTS PLUS ALL THE GA AIRPORTS IN THE COUNTRY.

SO IT GETS PRETTY THIN.

SO CONSEQUENTLY WE PUT TOGETHER THESE CIP LISTS AND THAT JUST HELPS THE FAA PROGRAM, THE DOLLARS.

UM, AND THE WAY THIS WORKS IS WE'LL SUBMIT THAT WE'VE ALREADY

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WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH THE FAAA COUPLE OF TIMES ON THESE PROJECTS FOR BOTH AIRPORTS, AND THEY TYPICALLY DON'T REALLY GET SOLIDIFIED UNTIL MARCH OR APRIL OF ANY GIVEN YEAR.

AND THAT'S WHEN GRANT APPLICATIONS START TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE FAA.

BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LIVING WORKING DOCUMENT, BUT LIKE I SAID, IT, IT'S A PLANNING DOCUMENT FOR BOTH THE FAA AND FOR THE AIRPORTS AS FAR AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS GO.

AND I CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO, TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THE HEADINGS MEAN ACROSS THE TOP, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S BASICALLY A PROJECT DESCRIPTION THAT THE, THE FAR LEFT OR THE FAR LEFT IS A FISCAL YEAR THAT WE TALK ABOUT.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S A FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR, NOT, NOT OUR COUNTY FISCAL YEAR.

UH, AND THEN THERE'S A, A PROJECT NAME AND A LITTLE BIT OF A DESCRIPTION.

SOME ARE EASIER TO REALLY INTERPRET THAN OTHERS.

UH, THERE'S A TOTAL PROJECT COST IN THE NEXT COLUMN AND THEN THERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF FUNDING SOURCES AND THE FAA, THE FIRST TWO COLUMNS THERE, THE A IP ENTITLEMENTS AND THE B-I-L-A-I-G, THOSE ARE BOTH FAA POTS OF OF MONEY.

UM, THE B-I-L-A-I-G WAS PART OF THAT, UH, LAW THAT WAS PASSED IN 2021 AND, UH, THAT EXPIRES THEORETICALLY, WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'LL BE RENEWED OR NOT, BUT IT'LL EXPIRE I THINK IN 26.

SO THERE'S AT LEAST, UH, THIS COMING YEAR AND THERE MIGHT BE ONE MORE YEAR COMING WITH THAT.

THEN THE NEXT COLUMN IS STATE PARTICIPATION, THAT'S SOUTH CAROLINA AERONAUTICS COMMISSION AND THEY HELP US OUT ON, ON INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AS WELL.

THEN WHEN YOU SEE THAT SPONSOR COLUMN, THAT'S THE AIRPORT, SO THAT'S THE AIRPORT SHARE OF THE, THE PROJECT COSTS.

UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT PFC FUNDS THERE, BUT FOR, FOR BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE, THERE ARE NO PFC FUNDS AS A COMMERCIAL AIRPORT ITEM, BUT IT'S ON ALL THEIR, UH, THE SPREADSHEETS FOR THE FAA THEN THAT FAR RIGHT COLUMN THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDS NEEDED THAT IS, UM, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT BASICALLY THE AIRPORTS ARE GONNA NEED TO COMPETE FOR, UH, AMONGST ALL THE REST OF THE AIRPORTS IN THE SOUTHEAST.

SO WE, WE WORK WITH THE FA IN ATLANTA, BUT THEY'VE GOT, LOOK AT ALL THEIR AIRPORTS THAT THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF OR THAT THEY ARE ARE, YOU KNOW, HELPING OUT WITH THESE PROJECTS AND NOW ALLOCATE THOSE SCARCE DOLLARS.

SO THIS IS HOW WE, WE KIND OF COME TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT WHERE, WHERE WE'RE GONNA SHAKE THE DOLLARS OUT TO MAKE THE PROJECTS HAPPEN.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS? MR. ALT, IF I LOOK AT 2027, THAT'S A BIG TICKET, 4 MILLION AND YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE WE STILL NEED TO COME UP WITH 3.75 MILLION? WELL, THE, WE WOULD BE THE FAA.

SO THIS WILL BE THE FAA, RIGHT.

SO THE WAY THAT'LL BREAK DOWN IS THAT FINAL COLUMN, THAT 3.75 MILLION IS WHAT WE WOULD MAKE A REQUEST TO THE FAA FOR OUTTA DISCRETIONARY MONEY.

THAT'S WHY THAT'S THERE SPECIFICALLY YEARS AHEAD OF TIME.

SO THEY KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A BIG PROJECT COMING AND THEY CAN START LOOKING AT LOOKING AT FUNDING AND IF THEY CAN'T FIND IT, THEN WE START WORKING TOGETHER AHEAD OF TIME.

AND IF THEY SAY WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT MONEY AND WE START WORKING A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY WITH THE STATE, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, OR A LOT OF TIMES AT A GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT, UNFORTUNATELY YOU MOVE THAT TO THE RIGHT AND YOU JUST, YOU WAIT BECAUSE THERE IS, THAT'S, I DON'T WANNA BROACH THE HANGAR PROJECT NOW, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS TO, TO GENERATE MORE ACTIVITY OUT THERE IS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE QUITE THE GAP IN THESE, THESE FUNDING REQUESTS.

IT LOOKS LIKE OUR PARTICIPATION IS EQUAL TO THE STATE.

CORRECT.

AND THE WAY THAT WORKS IS USUALLY A 90% FAA AND THEN 5% US 5% STATE.

ON TO, UH, ITEM 18, WHICH IS AIRPORT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM LIST FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT.

ANYTHING FURTHER? ANYTHING FROM ANYONE ONLINE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

SINCE THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN, IT'S JUST AN UPDATE, WE'LL MOVE

[18. AIRPORT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM LIST FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT - Jon Rembold, Airports Director]

UH, CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN DISCUSSION? SO MOVED.

SECOND IT.

UH, WE'LL HAVE, UH, 5% PARTICIPATION FROM US AT THE AIRPORT.

ALRIGHT, WELL BASICALLY THE SAME THING WITH AS, AS WE HAD FOR, UH, BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT.

WELL, THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED.

A FEW MORE PROJECTS THERE, BIGGER DOLLAR AMOUNTS THERE.

AND IT'S A COMMERCIAL AIRPORT, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, FUNDING OPPORTUNITY THERE FROM THE FAA, UM, AT HILTON HAD ISLAND AIRPORT, THE ENTITLEMENT MONEY OR THE ANNUAL FUNDING THAT COMES FROM THE FA IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS WHO ARE ENPLANED AT THE AIRPORT.

SO THAT, THAT DIFFERS FROM AIRPORT TO AIRPORT.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THE, THAT HIGHLIGHTED SECTION IS THAT B-I-L-A-I-G.

SO THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT COMES AS PART OF THAT 2021 LEGISLATION.

UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE PRETTY BIG PROJECTS THAT ARE PLANNED OUT THERE AT HILTON HUNT ISLAND.

UM, THIS PAST THE FAA REAUTHORIZATION BILL THAT WAS PASSED ACTUALLY INCREASED THE FA A'S PARTICIPATION AS WELL FOR FISCAL YEARS 25 AND 26 FROM 90% TO 95.

SO THAT'LL BE NICE.

UM, SO WE'LL BE,

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THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT AT BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AND HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT IS THE STATE DOES NOT PARTICIPATE ANYMORE IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

THEY DO PROVIDE SOME ANNUAL FUNDING AT A, AT A LEVEL THAT WE CAN USE THAT, THAT FUNDING FOR ANY TYPES OF PROJECTS AT THE AIRPORT.

SO WE DO KIND OF FACTOR THAT IN THERE.

YOU, YOU'LL STILL SEE THE STATE PARTICIPATION, BUT IT COMES IN A KIND OF A DIFFERENT, UM, A DIFFERENT TRANCHE THAN IT COMES AT THE, UH, GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT, BUT IT'S BY AND LARGE, THIS PROCESS IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME BETWEEN THE GENERAL AVIATION AND COMMERCIAL AIRPORTS.

ANY QUESTIONS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION? UH, WHAT ABOUT ANY FROM FOLKS ONLINE? I CAN'T SEE.

CAN YOU SEE 'EM? SARAH, ANYTHING FROM ANY QUESTIONS ONLINE? ALRIGHT, UH, ONCE AGAIN, NO ACTIONS NEEDED, JOHN.

THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE AND, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ITEMS, UH, WHICH LEADS US INTO ITEM

[19. APPROVAL OF A TASK ORDER TO J.H. HEIRS CONSTRUCTION FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES TO REPAIR THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM AT THE CHARLES LIND BROWN COMMUNITY CENTER (FISCAL IMPACT: $186,948.06 funding comes from Parks & Recreation Capital Fund, 4000-80-1600-54420 with a current balance of$9,658,107.06) - Robert Gecy, Interim Director, Capital Projects]

19.

THE APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER TO JH HIRES CONSTRUCTION FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES TO REPAIR THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM AT THE CHARLES LYNN BROWN COMMUNITY CENTER.

UH, THE FISCAL IMPACT IS $186,948 AND 6 CENTS, AND THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION CAPITAL FUND, UH, WITH A CURRENT BALANCE OF $9,658,107 AND 6 CENTS.

UM, ROBERT, UH, WELL, CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN DISCUSSION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND IT.

THANK YOU, ROBERT.

SO YOU GOOD EVENING.

AND FOR THOSE I HAVEN'T MET, I'M ROBERT GETY.

I'M THE INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

SO, UM, THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE DRAINAGE REPAIR AT CHARLES LYNN BROWN ALONG THE POOL DECK THAT ADJOINS THE BUILDING.

THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1977 AND THE POOL WAS ADDED AROUND, UH, LATE NINETIES, EARLY TWO THOUSANDS IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.

UM, THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM WAS INADEQUATE FOR HEAVY RAINFALL, CERTAINLY FOR POOL DECK OVERFLOW.

IT, IT WAS SUFFICIENT, BUT IT GETS CLOGGED UP.

IT WAS, UH, MUCH TOO SMALL.

SO WHEN WE HAVE LARGE RAINS, UH, IT WAS FLOWING INTO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.

UM, THIS, THE PHASE ONE OF THIS PROJECT, UH, WAS SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED WITH JH HIRES.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY PUT OUT FOR BID.

WE RECEIVED NO RESPONDENTS.

UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT WHAT WAS UNDER THE POOL DECK, I THINK IS THE REASON WHY PEOPLE WERE NOT WILLING TO COME IN TO TO BID IT.

WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF INTEREST.

UM, JH HIRES CAME IN AND SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THE PROJECT.

UH, WE LATER NOTIF UH, FOUND THAT THERE WERE ISSUES ALONG THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE POOL DECK THAT ADJOINS THE, UH, GYMNASIUM AND THE RECENTLY, UH, RENOVATED, UH, DANCE ROOM THAT'S ALONG THE BACK THERE.

UM, THIS WOULD COMPLETE THAT PROJECT AND ALLOW FOR US TO CONTINUE ALSO WITH THE OTHER, UH, RENOVATIONS THAT WE ARE DOING TO THE INTERIOR, UH, WHICH INCLUDE A NEW HARDWOOD MAPLE FLOOR THAT'S, UH, UH, CONTRACT IS ALREADY OUT ON.

SO WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA HAVE, UH, DRAINAGE ISSUES WHEN WE'RE PUTTING IN A BRAND NEW FLOOR IN THE GYMNASIUM.

ANY QUESTIONS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? YES, JUST SO THIS IS A, THE, THE FINAL, UH, PHASE THEN FOR THE EXTERIOR AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL THAT NO MORE MONEY WILL BE SPENT ON DRAINAGE AT THIS TIME, UH, ALONG THE POOL DECK.

UH, SO, SO THIS COMPLETES 100% OF THE POOL DECK DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

UM, AND IT WILL, IT IS A 12 INCH, UH, ORIGINALLY IT WAS A FOUR INCH DRAIN SYSTEM.

UM, IT GETS CLOGGED UP WITH LEAVES VERY EASILY AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH JUST A SMALL, UH, OUTLET LIKE THAT.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A 12 INCH, UH, DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND IT HAS WORKED, UH, KNOCK ON WOOD FLAWLESSLY ALONG THE FIRST 100 FEET THAT WE DID ALONG THE BACK WALL.

UM, WE HAVE HAD ZERO ISSUES, UH, SINCE THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE APPROVED AT COMMITTEE LEVEL, CORRECT? IS THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

IS THERE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM, UH, FOLKS ONLINE? SARAH? ALRIGHT, UH, DISCUSSION QUESTIONS.

SEEING NONE, CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION.

ACTUALLY IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE MOVED FORWARD.

CAN THIS BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION.

UH, IT IS APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION.

20 IS THE CONTRACT AWARD TO SCOTT EQUIPMENT AND SURFACING, UH, FOR IFB NUMBER 1 1 2 1 2 4.

UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM

[20. CONTRACT AWARD TO SCOTT EQUIPMENT & SURFACING FOR IFB #112124 CHARLES LIND BROWN CENTER GYMNASIUM UPFIT- BASKETBALL GOALS, SCOREBOARDS AND BLEACHERS (FISCAL IMPACT: $168,850.00 Funding comes from Parks and Recreation Capital Fund, 4000-80-1600-54420 with a current balance of $9,658,107.06) - Robert Gecy, Interim Director, Capital Projects]

UH, CHARLES LYNN BROWN CENTER GYMNASIUM, UPFIT, UH, BASKETBALL GOALS, UH, SCOREBOARDS AND BLEACHERS.

UH, FISCAL IMPACT IS 168,850 AND THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION CAPITAL FUND WITH A CURRENT BALANCE OF $9,658,107 AND 6 CENTS.

UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND OPEN UP DISCUSSION? MOTION.

MOTION OPEN UP DISCUSSION? YEAH, I SECOND THAT.

ALRIGHT, SOUNDS GOOD, ROBERT.

[00:50:01]

SO THIS IS AGAIN, UH, SOME RENOVATIONS THAT WERE NOTED, UH, THAT NEEDED TO BE FOR THIS FACILITY.

OF COURSE, WE INHERITED THIS FACILITY IN THE NINETIES FROM THE CITY OF BEAUFORT.

IT WAS TURNED OVER TO BEAUFORT COUNTY.

UM, IT HAS, UH, OVER THE YEARS SEEN VERY LITTLE, LET'S SAY, MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP TO SOME OF THE AREAS.

UM, THE BASKETBALL GOALS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE ORIGINAL TO THE GYMNASIUM.

THE BLEACHERS THAT WERE INSTALLED IN 1977 WERE ACTUALLY CONDEMNED IN 1979 AND ARE UNSAFE.

SO THE, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THE, UH, SCOREBOARDS NO LONGER WORK.

UM, AND WITH THE RECENT RENOVATIONS THAT WE DID IN 2023, WE'VE SEEN QUITE A BIT OF, UH, NEW TRAFFIC TO THE FACILITY.

IT'S HAD, UH, VAST IMPROVEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WITH THE PUBLIC ESPECIALLY.

AND THE, UH, UM, FRIENDS OF CHARLES LYNN BROWN HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN PUSHING TO GET SOME OF THESE RENOVATIONS DONE.

THIS WOULD, UH, HELP, UH, AGAIN, FACILITATE THE PROGRAMS AT THE CENTER.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO IT, YOU COMMENTED THAT THE BLEACHERS WERE INSTALLED IN 1977 AND WERE CONDEMNED AND RULED HAZARDOUS IN 79, SO ON MANUFACTURER? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO WE'RE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN USING THEM.

UH, LI LIMITED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE BASICALLY GRANDFATHERED IN, BUT THEY WERE, THEY WERE BY THE MANUFACTURER DEEMED HAZARDOUS AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPLACED LONG, LONG AGO.

I'D JUST LIKE TO COMMENT.

MY DAUGHTER LEARNED TO PLAY BASKETBALL THERE AND THEY WERE USING THE BLEACHERS IN 1991.

YEP.

BUT THIS IS LONG OVERDUE.

IS THERE ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY ONLINE? ALRIGHT, UH, I ACTUALLY WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY A COMMENT.

I USED TO LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CHARLES LYNN BROWN CENTER, THE GREEN STREET GYM.

AND I, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.

THAT'S ALL THE HARD WORK THAT'S GOING IN OUT THERE.

I, I KNOW THE COMMUNITY APPRECIATES IT AND IT'S A WONDERFUL PROJECT AND GOOD TO SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU.

UH, WELL ACTUALLY BEFORE IT MOVES FORWARD, UH, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS, TO, TO APPROVING THIS? YEAH, WE CAN APPROVE IT.

YEAH, WE CAN APPROVE IT HERE.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO APPROVING IT? ALRIGHT.

SEEING NO OBJECTION, THIS IS APPROVED.

ITEM 21, UH, CONTRACT AWARD TO MITCHELL BROTHERS, INCORPORATED FOR IFB 1, 1 1 9 2 4 CONSTRUCTION RENOVATION OF THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AND COUNTY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

UH, MOVING INTO

[21. CONTRACT AWARD TO MITCHELL BROTHERS INC. FOR IFB # 111924 CONSTRUCTION/RENOVATION OF THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AND COUNTY COUNCIL CHAMBERS (FISCAL IMPACT: $1,043,059.61Funding comes from Facility Management Capital Fund, 4000-80-1310-54420. Current account balance is $2,781,830.69) - Robert Gecy, Interim Director, Capital Projects - Robert Gecy, Interim Director, Capital Projects]

THE FISCAL IMPACT FOR THIS IS GONNA BE 1 MILLION, UH, $1,043,059 AND 61 CENTS.

AND THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT CAPITAL FUND WITH A CURRENT BALANCE OF $2,781,830 AND 69 CENTS.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND DISCUSSION? I'LL MOTION THAT DISCUSSION.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

SECOND, I'LL SECOND IT.

CEILING GRIDS, UH, NEW LIGHTING.

AND ROBERT, ONCE AGAIN, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

ABSOLUTELY.

UH, AND THIS HAS BEEN A LONG AWAITED PROJECT.

SO THIS HAS BEEN, UH, UH, SEVERAL YEARS IN THE MAKING.

UH, THERE'S BEEN ABOUT SIX DIFFERENT, UH, CHANGES, UH, TO THE PLANS OVER THAT PERIOD.

AND I THINK WE FINALLY COME TO A, A, UH, FINAL PLAN THAT'S GONNA WORK FOR EVERYONE.

SO, UH, WHAT I'LL DO IS I, I I WANTED TO RUN DOWN, UH, SOME OF THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT JUST TO GIVE SOME DETAILS ON, UH, THE RENOVATION ITSELF.

UH, NO FANCY 3D RENDERINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I'M, I'M GONNA GO DOWN AND KIND OF GIVE YOU, UH, UH, AREA BY AREA AND TALK ABOUT WHAT'S BEING DONE.

UM, ONE OF THE MOST NOTABLE, AND YOU CAN SEE UP AT THE ENTRY, UH, VESTIBULE THERE IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING OUT THE THIRD SET OF DOORS THAT WERE INSTALLED WHEN WE INITIALLY WERE PUTTING IN, UH, UH, THE X-RAY AND METAL DETECTION SYSTEM.

UM, SO THAT WILL ELIMINATE THAT THIRD SET AS YOU COME IN.

AND WE WILL ALSO BE MOVING THE ADMINISTRATION HALL DOOR, UH, WHICH IS IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER THERE.

UH, THAT WILL BE MOVED BACK AND THE WALL REMOVED IN THE COLUMN REMOVED, OPENING UP THE LOBBY A LITTLE MORE SO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, FUTURE, UH, RECEPTION OR KIOSK, UH, IN THAT AREA.

UM, THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE AREA FOR, UH, CHAIRS AND WAITING IN THAT AREA ALSO.

UM, ALL NEW FLOORING, ALL NEW PAINT.

AND ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE ACTUALLY THAT, UH, THERE'S OFFICE SPACE THERE THAT IS, UH, GOING TO BE ADDED.

UH, THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY HR YEARS AGO.

UM, BUT THAT WILL BE ADDED BACK IN, UH, ADDING ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACE.

THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF NINE NEW OFFICE SPACES ACTUALLY ADDED DURING CONSTRUCTION.

UM, SO I'LL, I'LL RUN DOWN REAL QUICK AS WE GO.

SO WE'VE GOT, UH, IN THE, UH, BROADCAST SERVICE AREA.

UH, WE WILL BE AND CLERK OF COURT AREA.

WE WILL BE PUTTING IN NEW OFFICE SPACE ALONG THERE, UH, WITH ADDITIONAL STORAGE.

AND THAT WILL ALSO TAKE US DOWN ADMIN HALL WITH ALL AGAIN, NEW FLOORING, NEW PAINT, NEW FINISHES, NEW UH,

[00:55:01]

UH, NEW LED LIGHTING THROUGHOUT.

UM, THERE WILL BE A BREAK ROOM THAT WILL BE ADDED NEXT TO THE ECR.

UM, THE KITCHEN AND THE ECR IS GOING TO BE REMOVED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE.

AND THE ECR WILL OF COURSE ALSO BE RENOVATED WITH NEW CHAIRS AND A NEW CONFERENCE TABLE ON.

THEN ONTO THE PLANNING SIDE, WE ARE ALSO RENOVATING THE PLANNING, BUT IT'S BASICALLY WE'RE DOING FLOORING FINISHES AGAIN, PAINT CEILING TILES.

THEY ARE TAKING OUT A, A SMALL WALL UP THERE AT THEIR FRONT DESK, UH, IS THE ONLY REAL STRUCTURAL CHANGE.

AND THEN WE ARE ENCLOSING THE, UH, THE IT RACK THAT IS IN THERE.

UH, JUST A SMALL ENCLOSURE TO KEEP, UH, THINGS OUT SO THAT IT CAN KEEP COOL APPROPRIATELY.

UM, AND THEN THE MAJOR RENOVATION TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

SO WE ARE GOING TO BE BASICALLY GUTTING MOST OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

IT IS GOING TO RECEIVE ALL NEW FLOORING, UH, AGAIN, PAINT ALL NEW WOODWORK.

UH, YOU'LL RECEIVE NEW DESK, UH, FOR THE CLERK OF COURT AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS DESK.

THE DEUS WILL BE REBUILT WITH ALL NEW FINISHES.

UM, AND THERE WILL ALSO BE THE PODIUM.

WE WILL RECEIVE A NEW PODIUM.

MUCH SIM VERY SIMILAR TO THIS ACTUALLY, UH, IN THE DESIGN THAT IT WILL HAVE A, A DRAWER FOR THE ELMO TO BE USED.

ALSO A FOLDOUT, UH, TABLE FOR THE SIDE.

IF ANYONE HAS ANY ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT'LL BE ON WHEELS.

AND IT WILL ALSO BE CLOSER TO THE DEUS.

SO IT WILL ALLOW ADDITIONAL SPACE UP FRONT AND IT WILL BE MORE PROJECTED, UH, AS FAR AS RIGHT UP ON THE, THE DEUS ITSELF.

SO WE'RE MOVING AT ABOUT THREE FEET FORWARD.

IT'S GONNA BE NICE.

IT IS A LOT OF WORK.

WE HAD, WE HAD SEVERAL, UH, LOCAL COMPANIES.

I WAS VERY EXCITED TO SEE.

WE HAD TWO BIDS FROM LOCAL COMPANIES AND MITCHELL BROTHERS WAS A LOW BID AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH 'EM.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I, YES, I GOT, SO WHEN'S THE LAST TIME IT WAS RENOVATED? I DO NOT HAVE A, AN ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT ONE.

I CAN CERTAINLY FIND OUT A LITTLE MORE, BUT I AM NOT SURE WHEN, IF EVER OKAY.

THE RESTROOMS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE FROM 1970.

YES, I WAS GONNA SAY THE RESTROOMS ARE INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS, BUT I JUST HAD TO, WE'VE RECEIVED SOME, UM, MR. BROWN COMPLAINTS.

SO HOW LONG WILL THIS TAKE? BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF CHAMBERS.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND YOU MIGHT WANNA TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO.

SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE UP TO SIX MONTHS.

WE'VE GOT 180 DAYS FOR THE CONTRACT, UH, AWARD, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

AND, UM, SO WE HAVE SPACE SET ASIDE IN ARTHUR.

WELL, AS FAR AS COUNCIL MEETINGS.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE, THAT WILL BE, UH, KIND OF UP TO ADMINISTRATION TO DETERMINE I GUESS AGAIN, HILTON HEAD AND, AND OTHER PLACES.

UH, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO THE SCHOOL MEDIA CENTER.

ARE WE NOT FROM, FOR THE ONES UP THERE? YES MA'AM.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SET UP, IS THAT Y'ALL ARE GONNA BE UTILIZING THEIR MEETING SPACE DURING THIS TRANSITION.

WE STILL HAVE ONES ON THE ROAD TOO, BUT WE'RE, WE'LL BE USING THEIRS.

SO, SO JUST LOOKING AT THE, UM, PLANS, IT LOOKS LIKE IF THIS IS DRAWN TO SCALE, THAT WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH ONLY 40 SEATS FOR FOLKS.

IS THAT, DO YOU THINK THAT'S CORRECT OR IS THAT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE? NO, I, I THINK THAT THAT WAS REALLY JUST, UH, THE ARCHITECTS, UH, YOU KNOW, THROWING IN SEATING IN THERE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE GAINING SOME, UH, SOME SPACE MOVING FORWARD.

SO WHATEVER IS IN THERE CURRENTLY, PLUS ABOUT TWO ROWS, I BELIEVE.

YEP.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR, OR COMMENTS FROM FOLKS ONLINE? SEE ANYTHING? ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE GROUP HERE? ALRIGHT.

UH, SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CAN UH, THIS BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION? YES.

22, UM, CONTRACT AWARD TO BEAUFORT CONSTRUCTION OF SC LLC FOR IFB ONE ZERO 1-824-BLUFFTON COMMUNITY CENTER RENOVATION.

SEEING NO OBJECTION, THIS IS APPROVED AND WILL MOVE FORWARD TO COUNSEL.

UM, MOVING INTO ITEM

[22. CONTRACT AWARD TO BEAUFORT CONSTRUCTION OF SC, LLC FOR IFB# 101824 BLUFFTON COMMUNITY CENTER RENOVATION (FISCAL IMPACT: $618,420.00 funding comes from Parks & Recreation Capital Fund, 4000-80-1600-54420 with a current balance of $9,658,107.06) - Robert Gecy, Interim Director, Capital Projects]

LOOKS LIKE THE FISCAL IMPACT'S GONNA BE $618,420 AND THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION CAPITAL FUND WITH A CURRENT BALANCE OF $9,658,107 AND 6 CENTS.

UM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND OPEN DISCUSSION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND IT.

ALRIGHT, SOUNDS GOOD.

GOOD.

AND ROBERT, IT'S ALL YOURS AGAIN.

UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A RENOVATION TO THE BLUFFTON COMMUNITY CENTER, A MUCH NEEDED RENOVATION THAT'S GOING TO, UH, PUT IN A NEW ELEVATOR AND ALONG WITH INTERIOR UPGRADES, UH, UH, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, NEW FLOORING, PAINTING AND INTERIOR SURFACES, AND ALSO CEILING TILES, UH, WILL BE REPLACED AS WELL.

UM, WE, UH, PUT THIS OUT FOR BID.

WE RECEIVED, UH, SEVERAL QUALIFIED BIDS

[01:00:01]

AND, UH, BEAUFORT CONSTRUCTION CAME IN AS THE LOW BIDDER AT 5 62.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MATTER? ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? WHAT ABOUT FROM THE FOLKS ONLINE? NO.

SOUNDS GOOD.

UH, CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION? YES.

ITEM 23 CONTRACT AWARD TO MITCHELL BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION, INCORPORATED FOR IFB 1 0 1 7 2 4 BOOKER T WASHINGTON COMMUNITY CENTER RENOVATION WITH A FISCAL IMPACT OF $446,899.

SEE YOU HAVE NO OBJECTION.

THIS WILL BE MOVED FORWARD AND MOVING INTO

[23. CONTRACT AWARD TO MITCHELL BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION, INC FOR IFB #101724, BOOKER T. WASHINGTON COMMUNITY CENTER RENOVATION (FISCAL IMPACT: $446,899.00 funding comes from Parks & Recreation Capital Fund, 4000-80-1600-54420 with a current balance of $9,658,107.06) - Robert Gecy, Interim Director, Capital Projects]

AND THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION CAPITAL FUND WITH A CURRENT BALANCE OF $9,658,107 AND 6 CENTS.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN DISCUSSION? THANK THAT.

MOTION.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. LAWS.

LAWS.

I SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND ROBERT, IT'S ALL YOURS.

AGAIN, AGAIN, ANOTHER, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER THAT'S LONG OVERDUE FOR SOME RENOVATIONS.

THE BOOKER T WASHINGTON, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, HAS NEEDED, UH, INTERIOR UPFIT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

UH, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SIMILAR, UH, ITEMS, ELECTRICAL, UH, UPGRADED KITCHEN, UH, ALONG WITH COUNTERTOPS, FLOORING, INTERIOR SURFACES, ET CETERA.

UH, WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING TO RENOVATE THE RESTROOMS, UH, BRING IT INTO A DA COMPLIANCE AS WELL.

UM, AGAIN, WE HAD, UH, THE SUCCESSFUL, UH, BID PACKAGE.

UM, WE RECEIVED, UH, FOUR BIDS, UH, AGAIN AND MITCHELL BROTHERS WAS A LOW BID AT 4, 4, 6, 8, 9 9.

ALRIGHT, UH, ANY QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION, COMMENTS? CAN YOU HEAR ME, DAVE? YES, SIR.

THIS IS COUNCILMAN GERALD DAWSON.

YES, SIR.

UM, I, I APPRECIATE THE STAFF, UH, MOVING THIS FORWARD TO START THE RENOVATION, UH, FOR THE BOOKER T WASHINGTON CENTER.

UM, WITH ALL THE UPGRADE AND THE, AND THE, UH, RENOVATION THAT IS GOING TO BE DONE, I, I WOULD CAUTION US OR ASK US TO, UM, CONSIDER, UH, THE INTERIOR RE AND RENOVATION THAT IS BEING DONE IS GOOD AND YOU'RE PUTTING IN NEW FIXTURES, UH, PARTICULARLY THE RESTROOMS AND THE SINKS AND STUFF.

BUT UNTIL WE DO SOMETHING WITH THE OUTSIDE, UH, WELL THE, UM, THE WELL WATER ACTUALLY HAS RUST IN IT.

SO IT RUST THE, UH, FIXTURES AND I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, ENCOURAGE STAFF TO, UH, ALSO MOVE FORWARD WITH INSTALLING A DEEP WELL RATHER THAN JUST REMAINING WITH THE SHALLOW WELL THAT'S THERE.

UM, BECAUSE IF NOT WE'RE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO, WITHIN A MATTER OF TIME, THE NEW, UH, BATHROOM, UH, FIXTURES AND STUFF WILL BE, UH, BADLY STAINED AND YOU'LL HAVE TO, UH, TAKE THEM OUT AND KEEP GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

UH, IF WE JUST GO AHEAD NOW AND DO THE DEEP WELL, WHICH, WHICH GIVE THE DEEPER AND CLEANER WATER WITHOUT THE RUST IN IT, IT, YOU WON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.

UH, IT WOULD TAKE FURTHER INVESTIGATION TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE.

WHAT IT IS, IS THAT WE HAVE IRON PIPING THAT IS RUSTED AND, UH, I CAN'T SAY THAT A WELL WOULD COMPLETELY SOLVE THE PROBLEM IF THE PIPING IS NOT REPLACED BECAUSE THAT IS THE SOURCE OF THE RUST COMING IN AT CHARLES AND BROWN.

AND WE'VE, WE'VE FACED THE SAME ISSUES AND FACILITIES GOES IN AND CLEANS THEM AS AS NEEDED.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST INSTALLED SOME NEW FIXTURES THERE AND THEY ARE, IT, IT, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THE PIPING UNLESS WE GO IN AND TEAR UP A LOT OF, UH, AREAS.

AND, AND, AND AGAIN, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS SITUATION TO HAVE MORE CLARITY, BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY INVESTIGATE AND I'LL WORK WITH FACILITIES TO SEE, UH, SEE IF THEY HAVE A SOLUTION.

WELL, IF, IF, IF YOU WOULD, I, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A OFFLINE CONVERSATION WITH YOU, UM, THAT WE CAN FURTHER DISCUSS THIS MATTER.

ABSOLUTELY.

ALRIGHT, I APPRECIATE THAT ALLISON.

UM, MR. LAWSON? YEAH, J JUST A QUICK QUESTION AND I'M SURE THAT, UM, UH, MR. GACY, WE'VE LOOKED INTO THIS AND I'M JUST ASKING JUST 'CAUSE IT'S MY JOB TO ASK IS THIS IS AN OLDER BUILDING, SO WE'VE DONE THE ASBESTOS TESTS AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE NONE OF THAT IS THERE, THAT'S GONNA ADD COST OR ADD LENGTH OF TIME TO THIS CONSTRUCTION.

THAT IS CORRECT.

UH, SO BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY OF THIS, BEFORE WE EVEN GO TO THE BID PROCESS, WE HAVE, UH, TYPICALLY DONE THAT ALREADY.

GOOD, THANK YOU.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE COME IN, IN THE PAST AND HAD TO HAVE, LET'S SAY, RE-UP IT IF IT'S GONE OVER, UH, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT COMPANY THAT COMES IN, THEY MAY FIND DIFFERENT AREAS BUT SHOULD NOT BE ANY ISSUES.

IT HAS BEEN DONE ON THIS ONE RECENTLY.

UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FROM FOLKS ONLINE? ALRIGHT, UH, CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION?

[01:05:01]

SEEING NO OBJECTION, THIS WILL BE MOVED FORWARD.

CONTRACT AWARD TO FRAZIER CONSTRUCTION IN COURT.

AND MOVING ON TO ITEM 24

[24. CONTRACT AWARD TO FRASER CONSTRUCTION AND COURT ATKINS GROUP FOR IFB #061824 STATION 39 FOR THE DESIGN PORTION OF THIS DESIGN/BUILD PROJECT (FISCAL IMPACT: $397,528.41 funding will be from GO Bond account number 4010-80-0000-54420 with a current balance of $5,230,383.56) - Robert Gecy, Interim Director, Capital Projects]

ATKINS GROUP FOR IFB NUMBER ZERO SIX 1-824-STATION 39.

FOR THE DESIGN PORTION OF THIS DESIGN BUILD PROJECT, FISCAL IMPACT IS $397,528 AND 41 CENTS.

AND FUNDING WILL BE FROM A GEO BOND, UH, WITH A CURRENT BALANCE OF $5,000,230 AND 5,000,230, SORRY.

$230,383 AND 56 CENTS.

I MAY, I HAVE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION .

PERFECT.

WHAT ABOUT A SECOND? YOU KNEW THAT? YEAH, I KNOW.

WHAT ABOUT A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND ROBERT'S ALL YOURS AGAIN.

UH, THIS IS FOR STATION 39, OF COURSE AT SUN CITY.

AND, UH, AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE NOTES, TO HELP IMPROVE RESPONSE TIME TO THAT AREA.

THIS IS FOR THE DESIGN PORTION ONLY OF THIS PROJECT? IT IS, UH, IT WAS PUT OUT AS A DESIGN BUILD, UM, AND, UH, FRAZIER CONSTRUCTION AND COURT ATKINS WERE CHOSEN.

UH, AGAIN, THIS WILL BE JUST FOR THE DESIGN PORTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I THINK I WAS IMPRESSED.

YOU RECEIVED SEVEN BIDS.

USUALLY I HAVE TO SAY, WHY DIDN'T WE GET MORE THAN ONE BID? BUT YOU RECEIVED SEVEN BIDS HERE.

A LOT OF TIME ON A, UH, ON, ON A AND E THOUGH WE WILL TYPICALLY RECEIVE MORE BIDS THAN CONSTRUCTION BIDS THOUGH.

SO YOU HAVE A LOT MORE FIRMS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE BIDDING FOR PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY LIKE THIS.

UM, SO IT'S, THE CONSTRUCTION MARKET IS, IS QUITE DIFFERENT.

SO IT'S, IT'S HARD WHEN THEY'RE, WE HAVE, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE MORE FIRMS, LET'S SAY THAT ARE EAGER FOR THESE PROJECTS.

AND WITH CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPANIES WHO ARE OVERWHELMED AND EITHER DON'T WANT TO BID AT THE TIME OR JUST CAN'T BID, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE, THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THE PROJECTS.

WE'RE SEEING THAT THE MARKET OVER THE LAST YEAR THOUGH HAS, HAS KIND OF CORRECTED ITSELF.

WE ARE GETTING A LOT MORE BIDS.

AND ALSO I ATTRIBUTE THAT TO OUR NEW SOFTWARE WITH OPENGOV.

UH, WE WERE ABLE TO REACH A BROADER MAR MARKET AND WE HAVE SEEN FOR THE MOST PART THAT, UH, THE MAJORITY OF OUR PROJECTS WHERE WE WERE RECEIVING, UH, NONE OR ONE BID ON SOME PROJECTS THAT WE FELT LIKE IT, I MEAN IT HAD A LOT OF INTEREST AND NOW WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE BIDS COMING IN.

SO WHAT'S THE SPAN OF TIME FOR THIS DESIGN BUILD? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO, UH, DEFER THAT AGAIN.

MR. AMON MAY HAVE A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT INTO THAT, BUT, UH, AS FAR AS THE DESIGN, HE'S LIKE, THEY DON'T , IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN DOES A SHOVEL GO IN THE GROUND? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

YEAH, IT CAN TAKE SOME TIME.

SO IT CAN BE MONTHS.

IT CAN, IT CAN BE MONTHS, UH, THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'VE GOTTA PUT, UH, THE, THE REST OF IT BACK OUT THERE FOR, UH, COURT ATKINS, UM, AND FRAZIER CONSTRUCTION AND COME BACK WITH A NUMBER, SO, OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE UP TO WHATEVER WE PUT IN THE CONTRACT WITH THE ARCHITECT THAT ALLOWS THAT AND YOU WOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT ADDITIONAL USE AND YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A REUSE FEE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

UM, I BELIEVE THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE, BUT IS THERE A WAY, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO SPEND THIS MUCH MONEY ON INDIVIDUALIZED PLANS, THAT WE COULD GET A SET OF PLANS FOR THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING MORE OF PAVILIONS THESE FIRE STATIONS AND THAT WAY WE HAVE A SET TO CHOOSE FROM AND, AND, YOU KNOW, FIT TO THE PROJECT AT HAND RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO BACK AND SPEND THIS MONEY OVER AND OVER AGAIN? YEAH, THAT, THAT'S FINE.

I DID ASK THE QUESTION.

THIS IS THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT AND I, I THINK YOUR SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION IS SOMETHING THAT'S DOABLE.

THERE'S ALWAYS SOME DESIGN REQUIRED FOR HOW YOU ATTACH TO THE GROUND, WHAT THE STABILITY IS, WHAT THE DIFFERENT WIND LOADS, ET CETERA.

BUT THERE CAN BE SOME BASIS.

THIS ORIGINALLY CAME TO US, WE WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH BLUFFTON TOWNSHIP AND UH, THEY HAVE A SIMILAR STATION THAT THEY REALLY LIKE.

UH, AND SO WE VISITED THAT STATION.

WE, WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING IT AS A SOLE SOURCE DESIGN.

UH, IT CAME IN, THE DISCUSSION WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGH.

WE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING TO YOU GUYS WITH THE SOLE SOURCE DESIGN.

UH, SO WE PUT IT OUT THERE AS A DESIGN BUILD SO THEY COULD TEAM UP WITH PEOPLE, COULD TEAM UP WITH BUILDERS AND THEN COME IN AS, AND THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT HELPED GENERATE THE INTEREST INTO THIS BIDDING.

UH, THE INITIAL THOUGHT WAS THAT WE'D SAVE A BUNCH OF MONEY ON THE DESIGN BECAUSE THEY'D DONE ONE BEFORE.

BUT UNLESS YOU OWN THOSE PLANS, IT DOESN'T MATTER WAY WE BUT DID, BUT WE DID ACTUALLY THROUGH THE BID PROCESS AND THE NEGOTIATIONS BRING THIS DESIGN PART PRICE DOWN IN, IN THE AWARD PROCESS.

SO THIS WAS LOWER THAN THE INITIAL BID ACTUALLY WAS.

CAN YOU NOW OWN THIS DESIGN FOR THE NE THEY'RE GONNA KEEP BUILDING MORE WHOLE DIFFERENT PRICE , THEY'RE GONNA BUILD MORE STATIONS.

SO YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, BUT THE SPECIFIC BUILDING CODE OR YOU KNOW, THE UM, THE ENGINEERING, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT GO ALONG WITH THE BUILDING CODE CERTIFICATION OR SITE SPECIFIC.

SO YOU CAN'T DO THAT ONE SIZE FITS ALL.

SO A PORTION MAYBE THE REST OF IT? NO.

SO IT'S NOT PROPRIETARY.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE COULD MAYBE USE IT AGAIN, PART OF IT

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BUT THAT'S AGAIN, ONLY FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.

ANY, ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CIRCULATION PATH OF TRAVEL, EGRESS, UM, BUILDING CODES, ANY OF THAT STUFF, FIRE CODE, ALL OF THAT IS SITE SPECIFIC AND WOULD HAVE TO BE REDONE EACH TIME.

THANKS.

UH, IS THERE ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY ONLINE? ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS APPEAR? ALRIGHT, SEEING UH, NO QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION? YES.

INTO ITEM 25 CONTRACT AWARD TO CE BORN AND COMPANY INCORPORATED FOR IFB NUMBER 0 5 0 8 2 4 DETENTION CENTER, STUCCO REPAIR AND PAINTING.

SEEING NO OBJECTION, THIS WILL BE MOVED FORWARD AND MOVING

[25. CONTRACT AWARD TO C.E. BOURNE & CO INC FOR IFB #050824- DETENTION CENTER STUCCO REPAIR AND PAINTING (FISCAL IMPACT: $2,656,585.00 funding comes from Detention Center Capital Fund, 4000-80-1250-54420 with a current balance of $3,458,200.00) - Robert Gecy, Interim Director, Capital Projects]

FISCAL IMPACT IS $2,656,585 AND THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE DETENTION CENTER CAPITAL FUND WITH A CURRENT BALANCE OF $3,458,200.

I MAY HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN UP DISCUSSION.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. LAWSON.

AND A SECOND.

DON'T EVERYBODY JUMP.

ALRIGHT, UH, ROBERT, I BELIEVE YOU'RE STILL UP, SO, ALRIGHT, THE FLOOR IS YOURS AGAIN.

I THINK THIS IS THE LAST ONE, CORRECT? IT IS.

SURE.

SO THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE.

THIS IS, UH, THE REPAIR AND UPGRADE OF THE EXTERIOR SURFACE, UH, STUCCO SURFACE OR EFIS TO THE DETENTION CENTER.

UM, I THINK AS WE ALL MAY KNOW THAT THERE WAS, UH, CONSIDERABLE ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE EIGHTIES AND EARLY NINETIES WITH SOME STUCCO.

UM, BEAUFORT COUNTY HAD ISSUES WITH NOT ONLY THE COURTHOUSE BUT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AND THE DETENTION CENTER WITH A, UH, STUCCO PRODUCT.

THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD.

THE COURTHOUSE WAS COMPLETELY RENOVATED ON THE EXTERIOR, HAD A NEW BRICK FACADE PUT ON THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING WAS LATER REPAIRED.

THE DETENTION CENTER HAS NOT SEEN ANY REPAIRS.

UM, AND BECAUSE OF THIS, THERE IS NOW BIRDS AND SQUIRRELS THAT ARE NESTING IN THE EXTERIOR OF THE STUCCO.

THERE ARE LARGE GAPS, UH, IN THE STUCCO.

IT'LL APPEAR AS A SMALL HOLE.

BUT WE DID TESTING ACTUALLY.

AND UH, YOU MAY HAVE A HOLE THAT IS THIS BIG THAT A BIRD IS LIVING IN, BUT BEHIND THAT IS A FOUR FOOT CAVITY WHERE THEY HAVE HOLLOWED OUT ALL OF THE, UH, INSULATION MATERIAL, UH, AND EFIS MATERIAL, UM, BEHIND IT.

SO WE WERE QUITE SURPRISED WHEN WE, UH, WHEN WE DID THIS STUDY, WE, WE EXAMINED, UH, UH, I BELIEVE THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AROUND THE BUILDING.

THIS OF COURSE, HAS LED TO SIGNIFICANT WATER INTRUSION, UM, INTO THE BUILDING.

UM, WE FEEL THAT, UH, WE, WE HAD ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT JUST A PATCH AND REPAIR.

UH, WE FELT TO KEEP WITH THE LONGEVITY OF THE BUILDING THAT WE WOULD ALSO APPLY A HARDENED SURFACE TO THE ENTIRE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING GOING FORWARD.

'CAUSE WE COULD REPAIR THE AREAS THAT WE HAVE, BUT THAT DOES NOT KEEP IT FROM HAPPENING TO OTHER AREAS.

THERE'S ALSO SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE FROM, UH, MOWERS AND WEED EATING AND OTHER ISSUES BECAUSE THE STUCCO WAS SO THIN AROUND THOSE AREAS.

SO AGAIN, IT, IT HAS CAUSED CONSIDERABLE WATER INTRUSION INTO THE BUILDING.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? UH, WHAT ABOUT FOLKS ONLINE? ALRIGHT, UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION AND I BELIEVE IT WAS ANSWERED ALREADY, BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT MATERIAL.

IT'S NOT STUCCO, RIGHT? IT'S A DIFFERENT MATERIAL.

IT IT IS A DIFFERENT PRODUCT.

SO IT IS, IT IS STILL A, UH, A STUCCO MATERIAL.

IT'LL BE A STUCCO FINISH THAT IS GOING ON THE OUTSIDE.

IT WILL HAVE A HARDENED MESH.

SO WE'LL REPAIR THE HOLES, UH, THAT ARE THERE CURRENTLY.

AND THEN CE BORN WILL APPLY A HARDENED MESH OVER TOP OF IT WITH ANOTHER STUCCO FINISH THAT ENCAPSULATES IT.

UM, YES, NO, THAT WAS GOOD.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

NO GOOD.

YOU CAN FINISH.

BUT I WAS JUST GONNA ASK, SO US APPLYING THIS, APPLYING THIS OVER THE EFIS THEN, SO IS THERE A WARRANTY THAT COMES WITH A NEW PRODUCT OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE ARE, ARE TAKING OUR CHANCES AND RISKS BY GOING OVER TOP THE EXISTING EFIS SYSTEM.

BASICALLY THIS IS A, A PROVEN METHOD TO REPAIR THIS.

WE ARE TAKING ON THE RISK OF, UH, POSSIBLE ISSUES STILL WITH, BUT, BUT IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IF YOU, PART OF THE DETENTION CENTER ACTUALLY WAS DONE WHEN THE COURTHOUSE WAS RENOVATED.

SO THERE IS ACTUALLY ONE SECTION THAT WAS REPAIRED AND THERE'S A DRIP EDGE ALONG THE BOTTOM THAT WAS PLACED THERE SO THAT, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THE WEED EATERS COME IN, THEY ACTUALLY ENCAPSULATE THE BLOCK WALL THAT'S BEHIND IT.

THEY RAISE THE STUCCO UP A LITTLE BIT THAT ALLOWED, UH, UM, THAT TO KIND OF GET OUT OF THE WAY OF DAMAGE AS WELL.

UM, BUT UH, AS FAR AS A, AN EXTENDED

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WARRANTY, THERE IS NO LENGTHY WARRANTY THAT WE HAVE.

WE STILL HAVE A PRODUCT THAT IS DEFECTIVE UNDERNEATH IT, BUT THIS IS A KNOWN SOLUTION TO REMEDY THAT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT.

UM, SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION? YES.

SEEING NO OBJECTIONS IF WE'LL BE MOVED.

OH, YES.

YEAH, WELL, IF YOU'RE DONE WITH THAT, BEFORE YOU ADJOURN, I WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH SOME OF THESE ITEMS. YEAH, SURE, SURE THING.

UH, BUT YEAH, SO SEEING NO OBJECTION, THIS WILL BE MOVED FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR FURTHER APPROVAL.

UM, AND CHUCK? YEAH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW THINGS BEFORE WE ADJOURN.

16, 21, 22, 23, 24, AND 25.

SO BECAUSE THIS MEETING WAS SCHEDULED LAST WEEK, NORMALLY THESE ITEMS WOULD'VE COME FORWARD TO COUNSEL TONIGHT ANYWAY.

UH, ITEMS 15, 16 AND 21 THROUGH 25 ARE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

COUNSEL AGENDA AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO, I JUST WANT CLARITY THAT WE'RE MOVING THESE FORWARD ON THE SAME DAY BECAUSE THIS MEETING WAS RESCHEDULED.

UM, SO THEY WERE ALREADY SLATED TO BE ON COUNCIL TONIGHT, BUT THIS MEETING WAS MOVED FORWARD, SO I JUST DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE SURPRISED THAT WE HEARD THEM THIS AFTERNOON AND MOVE THEM FORWARD TONIGHT WITHOUT SAYING SOMETHING.

COULD YOU REPEAT THOSE NUMBERS AGAIN? YES.

IT'S 15 MM-HMM .

SO THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, HICKORY HILL DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, TUXEDO PARK DETENTION.

AND THEN, UM, FIVE OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE LAST FIVE THAT WERE REQUIRED TO GO FORWARD TO COUNSEL THAT YOU'VE JUST HEARD, UM, ROBERT GO THROUGH.

AND ALSO NUMBER EIGHT WILL COME FORWARD, WHICH IS A $1.2 MILLION ACCEPTANCE.

OH, FOR ALL JOY? MM-HMM .

IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS COME BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE? SEEING NONE.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 5 0 8.