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          CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY. 
          I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING OF THE 
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PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER. 
          WELCOME, UH, WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY NEW YEAR, AND INVITE YOU ALL TO JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. 
          ONE NATION HONOR GOD INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          BEFORE 
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APPROVING THE AGENDA TODAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN EXPLANATION AND THEN ASK FOR AN INDULGENCE HERE. 
          THE, THE ORDER IN WHICH THE AGENDA IS LAID OUT, UH, IS I, I'M, I'M THINKING IT'S LESS HELPFUL, UH, WHEN WE CONSIDER UNDER NEW BUSINESS. 
          UH, ITEM NUMBER SIX A, THERE'S GONNA BE INFORMATION PRESENTED BY STAFF IN, IN THE AGENDA ITEM SIX B THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO OUR DISCUSSION FOR SIX A. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, FIND OUT IF IT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY TO REORDER THE, UH, REORDER THE AGENDA SO THAT SIX B COMES FIRST, AND SIX A FOLLOWS. 
          IS THERE ANYONE WILLING TO MAKE THAT MOTION? COMMISSIONER WHALEY MOVES SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MEER. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF REORDERING THE AGENDA. 
          UH, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          NOW WE NEED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA THAT WE'VE JUST AMENDED. 
          MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT AGENDA? UH, COMMISSIONER CORDES SECONDED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, . 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF, UH, APPROVING THE AMENDED MOTION. 
          RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO 
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SEE THE MINUTES FROM OUR DECEMBER 18TH, 2024 MEETING. 
          ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS OF THOSE MINUTES? MOVE TO APPROVE. 
          MOVE, MOVE APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER HENS, SUPPORTED BY COMMISSIONER LOBAUGH. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          UNDER UNFINISHED BUSINESS 
          [5.a. SUB-001 136-2024: Public Hearing on an Application for a Deviation from a
previously approved Major Subdivision, from Brandon Walton, for a project to
reconfigure and subdivide lots addressed as 11 Sea Front Lane and 13 Sea
Front Lane, also identified as Parel Number 60 and Parcel Number 59,
respectively, on Beaufort County Tax Map 12. ]
WILL BE TAKING UP, UH, ITEM SUB 0 0 1 1 3 6 20 24, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN APPLICATION FOR A DEVIATION FROM A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MAJOR SUBDIVISION. 
          UM, I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT COMMENT AND ASK FOR, UM, FOR TREY, I BELIEVE IS GONNA BE GIVING THE STAFF REPORT ON THAT. 
          TREY AND COMMISSIONERS, AS WE'RE HEARING THIS REPORT, I REMIND YOU AS UNLIKE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT COME BEFORE US THAT ARE OURS TO BE RECOMMENDING TO OTHERS TO, TO REVIEW AND RECOMMEND TO THIS ONE, WE WILL ACTUALLY BE, UH, MAKING A DECISION TODAY. 
          SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE HEAR THE PRESENTATION. 
          TREY AFTERNOON, HOW'S EVERYONE DOING? GOOD. 
          GOOD. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          DO WE, DID WE PULL THAT UP? SHEA? DID ANYBODY PULL THAT UP PRIOR TO THE, OH, HERE WE GO. 
          GOT IT. 
          ACTUALLY, THAT'S NOT THE, YEAH, JUST PULL THE PACKAGE ONLINE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THAT'S BE, YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO SINCE WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THIS, I'LL BE A LITTLE MORE BRIEF THIS TIME ON THIS ONE. 
          UM, THIS IS APPLICATION FOR MR. BRANDON WALTON FOR THE, UH, DEVIATION FROM A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MAJOR SUBDIVISION. 
          UH, AS WE WENT THROUGH, UH, IT'S A RECONFIGURATION OF LOTS, 13 AND 11, AND THEN A SUBDIVISION SUBSEQUENTLY OF LOT 13. 
          UM, LET'S GET DOWN INTO OUR, SO IT, THE, THE LOTS IN QUESTION TODAY ARE LOT OR UP FOR DEVIATION TODAY ARE, ARE LOTS U AND LOTS T UH, PART OF THE SEASIDE SUBDIVISION DOWN IN BERKS BEACH. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER. 
          AND HERE'S THE PROPOSAL HERE AGAIN. 
          LOT 13, UH, WHICH IS LOT TI BELIEVE. 
          NO, YOU EXCUSE ME. 
          LOT U IS PROPOSED TO MOVE PART OF ITS, UH, PROPERTY LINE FURTHER INTO LOT NUMBER T AND THEN SUBDIVIDE THE LOT SO THAT NOW THERE'LL BE THREE LOTS. 
          UH, THAT, WHERE THERE'S CURRENTLY TWO. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL GO OVER THE STAFF REPORT ON THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND. 
          SO THIS IS FROM THE APPLICANT. 
          SO THEY HAVE BEEN PROPERTY OWNERS AND PERMANENT RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD SINCE 1970. 
          HIS BROTHER AND HIMSELF WERE BORN AND RAISED HERE, ATTENDED THE LOCAL SCHOOLS, 
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AND THEIR PARENTS WERE EDUCATORS AND COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS. 
          HIS MOTHER RETAINS AND ACTIVE, UH, REMAINS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          THEY, THEY PLAN TO EVENTUALLY RETIRE TO LIVE ON THE ISLAND AND USE ONE OF THE LOTS AS AN ADDITIONAL HOME. 
          THEIR GOAL IS TO NOT BECOME A MAJOR DEVELOPER, BUT TO SIMPLY ALLOW OTHERS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE WHAT OUR FAMILY HAS ENJOYED FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS. 
          HOPEFULLY BY SELLING AND BUILDING ONE MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAN IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED, WE CAN PROVIDE ANOTHER FAMILY THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THE GREAT COMMUNITY. 
          WE WANT TO SHARE OUR REVERENCE FOR THIS SPECIAL PLACE WITH OTHERS. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE PREVIOUSLY PLATTED LOTS U AND LOTS T IS NOT DETRIMENTAL TO THE REASONABLE INVESTMENT BACK EXPECTATIONS OF OWNERS OF LOTS IN THE SUBDIVISION ARISING FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. 
          ONE, THERE IS NO OFFSITE PARKING IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          THE HOMES WILL HAVE GARAGES, DRIVEWAYS FOR PARKING OR DRIVEWAYS FOR PARKING. 
          THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT HAVE ANY COMMON AMENITIES. 
          AND CURRENTLY NO FORECAST OF OVERCROWDING AS THERE ARE NO COMMON PARKING LOTS. 
          ALL VEHICLES WILL UTILIZE GARAGES, DRIVEWAYS. 
          NUMBER FOUR, IF THE HOMES WILL BE PRIMARY, SECONDARY, AND NON-RES, THERE SHOULD BE NO CONCERN WITH INCREASED NOISE OR TRAFFIC AS THERE WILL ONLY BE PRIMARY SECONDARY RESIDENCES AND NOT NIGHTLY, WEEKLY RENTALS WITH MULTI MULTIPLE RENTERS AND VEHICLES. 
          AND NUMBER FIVE, THERE IS NO COMMON SPACE IN BERKS BEACH, POA, THEREFORE, THERE IS LITTLE TO NO RISK OF DECREASED UTILITY OF OPEN SPACE, AMENITIES, PARKING LOTS, ET CETERA. 
          TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE, THE INFORMATION GIVEN IN REGARDS TO THE FOLLOWING AREAS CONCERNED HAVE BEEN TRUE, FACTUAL AND COMPLETE. 
          THE EXPLANATIONS ABOVE, ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS. 
          THIS APPROVAL REQUEST MAY POSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE FIVE CRITERIA FOR MEETING THE DEVIATION OF A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MAJOR SUBDIVISION, WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH IN OUR STAFF REPORT HERE NOW. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO GET THAT UP THERE A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO CRITERIA ONE, TWO, AND THREE, ALL THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE ALL START THE SAME. 
          I'LL READ THAT AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE CRITERIA THAT HAS TO MEET CRITERIA. 
          NUMBER ONE, A DECISION TO APPROVE A PROPOSED CHANGE TO A PREVIOUSLY APPLIED SUBDIVISION SHALL BE BASED ON A FINDING THAT THE PROPOSED CHANGE IS NOT DETRIMENTAL TO THE REASONABLE INVESTMENT BACK. 
          EXPECTATIONS OF OWNERS OF LOTS IN THE SUBDIVISION ARISING FROM NUMBER ONE, THE INCREASED BURDENS ON UTILITY OF ROADWAYS CAUSED BY OFFSITE PARKING. 
          IN THIS CASE, STAFF FOUND THAT THERE IS NO OFFSITE PARKING AREA ASSOCIATED WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLATTED SUBDIVISION. 
          THEREFORE, IT IS NOT AFFECTING THAT CRITERIA. 
          CRITERIA NUMBER TWO, INCREASED BURDENS ON AMENITIES IN THE SUBDIVISIONS OR SUBDIVISION CAUSED BY INCREASED NUMBERS OF DWELLING UNITS. 
          THERE ARE NO AMENITIES IN THE PREVIOUSLY PLATTED SUBDIVISIONS. 
          SO THEREFORE NUMBER TWO ALSO IS NON-APPLICABLE TO THIS SCENARIO. 
          NUMBER THREE, OVERCROWDING IN THE SUBDIVISION. 
          THE LOT RE RECONFIGURATION PROPOSED FOR LOT T THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION WILL RESULT IN THE FRONTAGE OF TWO LOTS BEING REDUCED TO A WIDTH THAT IS LESS THAN ALL OTHERS IN THE SUBDIVISION. 
          UH, THAT COULD BE SEEN AS APPLICABLE IN THIS SITUATION AS THOSE LOTS ARE GETTING SMALLER THAN WHAT IS PREVIOUSLY THERE. 
          UH, NUMBER FOUR, A DECISION, OR I'M SORRY, INCREASED NOISE AND TRAFFIC IN THE SUBDIVISION. 
          THE ADDITION OF ONE LOT OF THE SUBDIVISION WILL RESULT IN A ADDITIONAL VEHICLE TRIPS. 
          SO THEREFORE NUMBER FOUR IS APPLICABLE IN THIS SCENARIO. 
          UH, NUMBER FIVE, DECREASED UTILITY OF AMENITIES AND OTHER PROPERTIES SUCH AS OPEN SPACE, RIGHTS OF WAY AMENITIES AND PARKING OR ANY LOT COMBINATIONS OR SUBDIVISIONS. 
          THE INCREASE, AGAIN, WILL RESULT IN DECREASED UTILITIES OF THE COMMUNITY'S RIGHTS OF WAY. 
          SO NUMBER FIVE IS ALSO, UH, APPLICABLE. 
          THEREFORE, IN THIS SCENARIO, TOWN STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL. 
          BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT ON THIS. 
          ARE THERE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OF TRADE FROM COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, HENS? UH, FIRST COMMISSIONER, HENSON, COMMISSIONER WHEEL. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THE ISSUE OF YOU, YOU HAVE A SUBDIVISION, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE ISLAND, CORRECT? AND, AND SO HERE'S THE SUBDIVISION, HERE'S HOW IT'S PLATTED. 
          HERE ARE THE LOTS. 
          I'D LIKE THIS SUBDIVISION. 
          I'M GONNA BUY A LOT. 
          AND, AND, AND SO IN MY MIND IT IS WHAT IT IS. 
          SO 
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WHAT IS, WHAT IS BEING ABLE TO DIVIDE LOTS? CAN, CAN ALL SUBDIVISIONS DIVIDE LOTS? IF, IF THEY WANT, IF, IF IT MEETS THIS CRITERIA OR JUST SOME SUBDIVISIONS OR JUST SOME LOTS THAT ARE BIG ENOUGH. 
          WHAT WHAT ALLOWS YOU TO, TO WAIVER FROM WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT I WOULD ASSUME A SUBDIVISION IS, IS PURPOSE IS. 
          SO ANY SUBDIVISION THAT'S UNDER SIX LOTS WOULD, THIS WOULD NOT APPLY TO THIS IS ANYTHING THAT MEETS THIS, THE CRITERIA OF THE MAJOR SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS SIX LOTS OR MORE. 
          SO THIS WOULD APPLY TO ALL OF THOSE, UH, UNLESS YOUR PRIVATE COVENANT COVENANTS EXPLICITLY, UH, PROHIBITED IT, YOU COULD, YOU COULD APPLY FOR THIS AND YOU WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THIS MINOR DEVIATIONS FROM PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. 
          APPROVED MAJOR SUBDIVISION CAVEAT IN, UH, F SEVEN. 
          UH, LET'S GO WITH COMMISSIONER MUER FIRST. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER MILLER. 
          YES. 
          DON'T FORGET YOUR MIC. 
          YOU CAN GO, JUST GO UP ONE, TWO, WHERE WE'RE ON THE LOT. 
          YEAH, LOT, LOT M IS WAS, IF I'M CORRECT, THAT WAS ALREADY SUBDIVIDED OR AT LEAST THERE HAS BEEN SOME SUBDIVISIONS OF LOTS IN THIS SECTION, RIGHT? VERY FEW. 
          BUT THERE HAVE BEEN, YOU ARE CORRECT, YOU KNOW OF LOT M WAS SUBDIVIDED. 
          I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          NO SIR. 
          I CAN PULL UP PROPERTY VIEWER AND WE CAN TAKE A LOOK. 
          IT IS M WAS SUBDIVIDED. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. 
          SO IT'S A PRECEDENT HAS BEEN SENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER DEIS, FROM THIS PAGE, IT APPEARS THAT THE, IS IT THE 75 FOOT, UH, FRONTAGE THAT WOULD BE ALTERED BY THIS PROPOSED CHANGE? CORRECT. 
          AND, AND WHAT AGAIN, UNT ARE, WE'RE LOOKING AT UNT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO, UH, U HAS GOT 1 53 71, IS THAT CORRECT? I'M JUST TRYING TO WRESTLE WITH WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE NEW FEET? IF YOU CAN SHOW THE NEW FRONTAGES, UH, NUMBER SO THAT YOUR NEW FRONTAGE WOULD BE FOR PROPOSED LOT. 
          1 62 FEET PROPOSED LOT THREE OR SHOULD BE TWO, BUT LOT 2 49 FEET AND THEN LOT THREE, 104 FEET. 
          SO THE SIG THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGE WOULD BE ABOUT 49 FEET INSTEAD OF SEVEN, FIVE FEET FOR A TANK? CORRECT. 
          IS THAT 49? EXCUSE ME? I'M SORRY. 
          IS THAT 49 FEET OR IS IT 49 PLUS 12 POINT HERE? CORRECT. 
          IT'S 49 PLUS 12. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEP. 
          SAW THAT MISSED THAT THERE. 
          MY APOLOGIES. 
          STRIKE THAT FOR THE RECORD. 
          IT WOULD BE WHAT, 61 FEET? 61, 62 AND 62 ACTUALLY. 
          AND THEN THE END LOT, WHICH IS GREATER. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          SO 62. 
          62 AND 1 0 4. 
          CORRECT. 
          COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL? NO. 
          UM, HAS THIS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE BURKE SPEECH? POA? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          OTHER QUESTION? COMMISSIONER WHALEY, JUST, UH, FOLLOWING UP ON, UH, COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL'S QUESTION, WHAT IS THE BURKE BEACH POA AND IS IT ALL LOT OWNERS IN THIS POA AND UM, DID ALL LOT OWNERS VOTE ON THIS? FROM MY UNDERSTANDING FROM, THERE'S A LETTER IN THE PACKAGE, THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF FOLLOWING FROM THE RESIDENCE. 
          THIS WAS, UH, DECIDED ON BY THE BOARD, NOT THE COMMUNITY IN IN ENTIRETY. 
          UH, SECOND QUESTION. 
          I SEE THE WALTONS HAVE A LONGTIME RESIDENTS OF THE ISLAND. 
          WHO IS CREST? LLC? UH, THAT'S THE LLC THAT I THE ONLY BRANDON WALTON PERSONALLY SET UP. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS' TIME AND STATE YOUR NAME. 
          THANK YOU FOR, UH, YEAH, COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME PLEASE FOR THE RECORD? WALTON BRANDON WALTON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, CREST. 
          LLC IS THE LLC THAT WE PUT IN PLACE. 
          UH, I WANTED TO ADDRESS YOUR ISSUE IN TERMS OF THE 62 62 AND THEN THE 1 0 4. 
          UH, AS AN ALTERNATIVE, WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN JUST DIVIDING PROPOSED LOT THREE. 
          AND IF WE DID THAT, THAT WOULD GIVE US, UH, 75, 75 AND THEN 76.124. 
          SO THEN YOU MEET THE STANDARD FRONTAGE OF, UH, 75 FEET. 
          SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING. 
          UM, WE DID NOT KIND OF COME UP WITH THAT IDEA UNTIL WE HAD A CHANCE TO GET WITH MR. WILLIAMS. SO, UM, THAT IS, UH, DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE WERE SITTING IN. 
          THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY, AND THEN I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO HIM AND LET HIM TALK AFTER, UM, TREY FINISHES. 
          FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GREAT. 
          TREY HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL. 
          HE'S BEEN MY POINT OF CONTACT. 
          THE STAFF HAS BEEN 
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TERRIFIC. 
          THEY'VE BEEN VERY TIMELY AND INDULGING ME WITH ALL MY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, AGAIN, AS YOU COULD SEE MY PERSONAL STATEMENT WE'RE FROM HERE. 
          IF ANYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT HILTON HEAD MEANS, WHAT IT'S ABOUT, WHAT IT STANDS FOR, WE ARE THOSE PEOPLE. 
          I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A MAJOR DEVELOPER, UH, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BUT , IF I WANT, I'D BE LYING IF I DIDN'T SAY I THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 
          BUT WE REALLY WANT TO DO THIS FOR OUR FAMILY AND THEN ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THIS EXPERIENCE THAT WE SO, UH, GREATLY ENJOYED WITH OTHERS. 
          TREY, DID YOU WANNA FINISH UP HERE OR ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CORDES HAS A QUESTION. 
          SO THAT WAS AN INTERESTING POINT ABOUT THE SE I HAD THE SAME QUESTION. 
          'CAUSE YOU COULD SLICE THE PIE INTO 3 75 FOOT, WOULD THAT HAVE CHANGED YOUR ASSESSMENT AND THE TOWN'S ASSESSMENT OF THIS IF THAT HAD BEEN DIVIDED THAT WAY? SO, UH, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE FOR CRITERIA NUMBER THREE. 
          AND ON THAT ONE IS NOT WHERE WE DREW OUR CONCLUSION FROM. 
          IT, IT WAS, WE DID SAY THAT IT COULD, IT COULD RESULT IN THE OVERCROWDING, BUT OUR CONCLUSIONS WERE DRAWN MAINLY FROM FOUR AND FIVE, WHICH WERE THE INCREASED BURDENS ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          BECAUSE THERE IS NO DOUBT WITHOUT, WITH AN ADDITIONAL HOME, BY FACT THERE WILL BE AN INCREASED BURDEN. 
          I'D LIKE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          IF, IF THERE'S A MODIFICATION TO THE APPLICATION THAT WE'VE REVIEWED, WE CANNOT MAKE CONCLUSIONS OR STATEMENTS ON AN APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE NOT REVIEWED YET. 
          SO, UM, WE WOULD, IF THEY ARE GONNA MODIFY THEIR APPLICATION, WHICH WE'LL HEAR FROM THEM NEXT, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO RECONSIDER. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          YOUR OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS FOR EITHER MISSY OR TREY, UH, COMMISSIONER HENS, UM, APPLICANT SAID, UM, CAN YOU SCROLL BACK UP TO NUMBER, SCROLL DOWN. 
          I GUESS THE OTHER WAY, OTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THE APPLICANT'S POINT NUMBER THREE. 
          I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE POINT NUMBER THREE. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN. 
          OH, YEP, THERE WE GO. 
          IF POINT NUMBER FOUR, IF THE HOMES WILL BE PRIMARY, SECONDARY AND NOT RENTALS, THERE SHOULD BE NO CONCERN. 
          AND, AND I KIND OF AGREE WITH THAT. 
          I THINK THESE FIVE POINTS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 'EM IN THE, UH, THROUGH THE FILTER OF A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, UM, I, I THINK THAT YOU COME TO DIFFERENT CONCLUSIONS THEN IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AS WITH COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, LIKE A, LIKE A SHORT TERM RENTAL. 
          SO I THINK I WOULD ANSWER THESE FIVE QUESTIONS DIFFERENTLY, UM, THROUGH THE FILTER OF RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL. 
          AND, AND SO, BUT, BUT WE DON'T, IT SAYS IF THE HOMES WILL BE PRIMARILY OR SECONDARY, NOT RENTALS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT, RIGHT. 
          IT IT COULD, IT COULD BE COMMERCIAL, SHORT TERM RENTAL AS A, AS A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO WHAT IS BY LAW. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          PERMISSIBLE, COMMISSIONER MUELLER HAS A QUESTION. 
          SO IF THE APPLICANT DOES ALTER THEIR SUBMISSION, WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE ON THAT FOR US HERE TODAY? DOES IT GET TABLED? I THINK WE WE'RE TABLED RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'RE COMING IN. 
          SO WE WOULD, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE, I, I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE. 
          SO BRUTUS, WELL, IF IT'S EITHER AN ALTERED OR NEW APPLICATION THAT HAS TO BE RESUBMITTED TO STAFF FOR STAFFS REVIEW AND THEN IT HAS TO COME BACK TO YOU ON THE, THE NEW APPLICATION. 
          I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION, I THINK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF TREY OR MISSY? COMMISSIONER WHALEY. 
          SO WE'RE FOCUSED REALLY TODAY ON, UNDER THE CURRENT REGS, UH, SUBDIVIDING IT SUBDIVISION STANDARD IS 75 FEET RIGHT NOW. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME TO US IF IT WAS 75 FEET, IS THAT CORRECT? THEY WOULD BE WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO SUBDIVIDE OR NO, THEY, NO MA'AM. 
          THE, THE, THE WHAT ACTIVATED THIS WAS, UH, 16 2 103 F SEVEN, WHICH IS UNDER SUBDIVISION REVIEW BECAUSE BURKE SPEAKS SUBDIVISION IS OVER SIX LOTS. 
          IT IS REVIEW, IT WOULD BE PER TODAY'S CODE, IT WOULD BE AN APPROVED OR A MAJOR SUBDIVISION. 
          SO IT'S PREVIOUSLY PLATTED SUBDIVISION OF OVER SIX SLOTS. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT ACTIVATED THE DEVIATION FROM A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MAJOR SUBDIVISION PIECE. 
          HAD THEY TURNED IN, UH, THE LOTS AT 75 A PIECE. 
          THERE COULD BE, THERE COULD BE BASED 
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ON OUR REVIEW, SOME DIFFERENCES IN OUR ANALYSIS. 
          BUT AGAIN, UNTIL WE GET THAT, AS MISS E MENTIONED, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SPECULATE ON THOSE AS WELL. 
          I WANNA FOLLOW UP, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS DIRECTED TO YOU, TREY, MR. CHAIRMAN, OR TO CURTIS. 
          UH, WHY DON'T YOU START WITH TREY AND SEE, OKAY, UM, TREY, SO LET ME UNDERSTAND. 
          IF THE APPLICANT IN ITEM FOUR, AS COMMISSIONER HENS HAS POINTED OUT, SAID THESE WOULD NOT BE RENTALS, UM, IS THERE, AND THERE HAS BEEN A PRECEDENT FOR SUBDIVISION IN THE SAME, UH, A SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? IN THE SAME PLATTING, THE ORIGINAL PLATTING THERE, THERE HAS BEEN SOME SUBDIVISIONS. 
          UM, IS THERE AN ABILITY OF THE TOWN TO PUT EITHER A COVENANT OR A RESTRICTION THAT THAT PROPERTY COULD NOT BE A RENTAL? BECAUSE WE GRANTED A SUBDIVISION, THERE'S NO INTENT TO RENT IT. 
          I I, I DON'T BELIEVE THE LMO GIVES US THAT KIND OF POWER. 
          BUT I WILL ASK CURTIS TO STEP IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE WHAT OUR BOUNDARIES ARE HERE. 
          NO, THAT'S NOT A CONDITION YOU COULD SET IN THE, IN THIS REVIEW. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER DEIS. 
          SO JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          THE DENIAL FROM STAFF IS TO DO WITH THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC THAT THIS APPLICATION WOULD CAUSE, IS THAT CORRECT? SO, CORRECT. 
          SO CRITERIA FOUR AND FIVE, UH, INCREASE NOISE AND TRAFFIC OBVI PER THE STANDARD, IT WOULD CREATE 10 ADDITIONAL DAILY TRIPS PER, UH, TO TODAY OR PER DAY ON THAT. 
          AND THAT WOULD ALSO GO TO NUMBER CRITERIA, NUMBER FIVE, UH, WHICH WOULD BE AN INCREASED BURDEN ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO FINDINGS OF FACT IS WHAT WE, WHAT WHAT WE GO, WHAT STAFF GOES ON, AND THAT'S THE WHAT WE APPLY TO, UH, CRITERION FOUR AND FIVE, WHICH IN TURN GAVE OUR RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. 
          THE, THE TWO PARCELS AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY, THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPED, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          THE DEVELOPMENT, JUST AS, AS THEY ARE NOW TO HOLMES, WOULD IN AND OF ITSELF CREATE AN ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC NECESSARILY, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          AND SO THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD LOT ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          BEFORE I, UH, THE COMMISSIONER HANSEN, UM, ARE WE, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO TO PUBLIC HEARING JUST A MINUTE. 
          AND THEN WHEN, WHEN WE VOTE, IS THAT A VOTE TO APPROVE OR DENY OR A VOTE TO MOVE IT TO COUNCIL? I DON'T THINK WE'LL KNOW UNTIL WE'RE THERE, BUT I THINK IT'S TO APPROVE OR DENY IT. 
          IT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR CALL TODAY. 
          YES, CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          BEFORE WE OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC ONE, BE SURE ALL COMMISSIONERS HAVE SEEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE RECEIVED EARLIER TODAY AND THAT YOU HAVE A HARD COPY IN FRONT OF YOU NOW? I MAY, YES MA'AM. 
          THE APPLICANT HAS AN APPLICANT TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION BEFORE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          MY NAME IS CHESTER WILLIAMS. I'M A LOCAL ATTORNEY HERE AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE WALTON FAMILY. 
          UM, AS HE SAID IN THEIR RIGHT, NO, DO NOT MOVE. 
          OKAY, LEAVE THAT WHERE, AS HE SAID IN THERE NEARBY, THE, THE WALTONS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES. 
          IF, IF ANY OF Y'ALL HAD YOUR KIDS GO TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, LIKELY YOU RAN ACROSS ALICE WALTON AT SOME POINT IN THAT PROCESS. 
          AND THIS IS A, THIS IS A CLASSIC CASE OF NATIVE ISLANDERS WHO'VE OWNED PROPERTY FOR YEARS WHO JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO REALIZE THE ECONOMIC POTENTIAL THAT THAT PROPERTY PRESENTS FOR 'EM. 
          UM, BUT BEFORE I GET TO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE APPLICATION, AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY MR. COLTRANE'S HERE IS I DON'T THINK THE WALDENS NEED TO BE IN FRONT OF Y'ALL TO START OFF WITH BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE IS LMO SECTION 16 2 16 DASH TWO DASH 1 0 3 F SEVEN, WHICH IS CAPTIONED DEVIATIONS FROM PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS. 
          IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THAT SECTION, AND I JUST WANNA READ IT TO YOU, THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THESE PROVISIONS IS TO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS. 
          MY QUESTION IS, WHO APPROVED THE SUBDIVISION? IT WAS RECORDED BEFORE THE TOWN WAS INCORPORATED, SO IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THE TOWN. 
          AND IT WAS RECORDED AT A TIME WHEN THE COUNTY HAD NO REGULATIONS ON SUBDIVISIONS LIKE THAT. 
          SO IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THE COUNTY. 
          THIS IS NOT AN APPROVED SUBDIVISION. 
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I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH MISSY LEIC. 
          UM, SOME PEOPLE WANNA TELL YOU THAT, WELL, THE FACT THAT IT'S RECORDED IS A, IS AN APPROVAL. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE AT ALL. 
          THE RECORDER'S OFFICE ACTS STRICTLY IN A MINISTERIAL CAPACITY. 
          IF YOU PRESENT SOMETHING TO THE REGISTER OF DEEDS THAT IS IN RECORDABLE FORM, THEY ARE OBLIGATED BY LAW TO RECORD IT. 
          THERE'S NO APPROVAL THAT GOES INTO THAT. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THE WALTONS NEED TO BE HERE TO START OFF WITH. 
          BUT ASSUMING THAT Y'ALL DO THINK THAT THEY WANT TO BE HERE, THEN LET ME ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT, UH, MR. LAU HAS RAISED IN HIS PRESENTATION. 
          NO DOUBT THE ADDITION OF ANOTHER LOT TO THE SUBDIVISION WILL RESULT IN MORE TRAFFIC, NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE THAT'S AT HAND. 
          THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THAT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE CURRENT OWNERS IN THE LOT OF THE, IN THE SUBDIVISION. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HE KEY ON. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU FOLLOW MR. LOWE'S REASONING, THEN NO APPLICATION WILL EVER BE APPROVED. 
          THAT CALLS FOR A SUBDIVISION OF A LOT IN A PREVIOUSLY IN A RECORDED SUBDIVISION BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC. 
          AND IF THAT IS THE CRITERIA, THEN NOBODY CAN EVER MEET THAT. 
          SO WHY HAVE THOSE PROVISIONS IN THE CODE? TO START OFF WITH THE QUESTION IS, IS IT DETRIMENTAL TO THE INTERESTS OF THE OTHER LOT OWNERS? SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          THIS IS AN EXCERPT OF THAT SUBDIVISION PLAT THAT I'VE ANNOTATED. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THIS LINE IS 1649.9 FEET ALONG HERE. 
          AND THESE TWO, IT'S NOT REALLY A STRAIGHT LINE, BUT IT'S A TOTAL OF 655.8 FEET. 
          SO IF MS. WALTER COULD PROBABLY TELL YOU, 'CAUSE SINCE SHE WAS A TEACHER, IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR GEOMETRY TO DETERMINE THE AREA OF A TRIANGLE, IT'S ONE HALF TO BASE TIMES A HEIGHT. 
          SO 14, 16, 4, EXCUSE ME, 1640 9.9 TIMES 6 5, 5 0.8 DIVIDED BY 0.05 IS A LITTLE OVER 55,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          AND THERE'S 43,560 FEET AND A SQUARE FEET AND AN ACRE. 
          SO YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF 12.758 ACRES ABOUT IT. 
          IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE LESS BECAUSE THAT LINE'S NOT QUITE STRAIGHT. 
          WE WERE IN A ZONING DISTRICT THAT PERMITS EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE. 
          AND RIGHT NOW, WELL IF YOU GO BACK, YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE SURVEY ITSELF THAT'S IN THERE, IT'S A LITTLE MISLEADING 'CAUSE IT SAYS PLAQUE SHOWING 30 LOTS IN SEASIDE SUBDIVISION. 
          BUT THOSE 30 LOTS ARE ONLY THE, THE NUMBERED LOTS. 
          WHEN YOU INCLUDE THE LETTERED LOTS, IT'S A TOTAL OF 52 LOTS IN THE SUBDIVISION. 
          SO YOU HAVE 52 LOTS SPREAD OVER 12.758 ACRES, WHICH GIVES YOU JUST OVER FOUR DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS HALF OF WHAT THE PERMITTED DENSITY IS UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING. 
          IF YOU ADD ONE MORE LOT IN THERE, THE DENSITY GOES FROM 4.08 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ALL THE WAY UP TO 4.15 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. 
          SO 700, SO A DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE. 
          SO IS THAT I I DON'T SEE THAT THAT'S DETRIMENTAL TO ANYBODY'S INTERESTS THERE. 
          BUT THE ISSUE ON THE TRAFFIC IS, WHICH THE TOWN STAFF IS KEYED ON, WHAT'S SHOWN HERE IS 50 FOOT STREET. 
          AND THAT IS, IT USED TO BE CALLED FIRST STREET, IT'S NOW SEASIDE. 
          IS IT SEASIDE LANE? UM, SEA FRONT. 
          FRONT SEA. 
          FRONT LANE, EXCUSE ME. 
          IT'S A 50 FOOT WIDE STREET. 
          AND UNDER THE LMOS STREET HIERARCHY TABLE, A 50 FOOT LOCAL ACCESS STREET CAN HANDLE 2000 ANNUAL AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS. 
          THE 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, THAT'S BS BEACH ROAD CAN HANDLE 4,000 ANNUAL AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS. 
          ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT GENERATES 10 TRIPS PER DAY. 
          10. 
          AND THAT'S 10 TRAFFIC TRIPS OVER A 24 HOUR PERIOD, WHICH IS ONE TRIP EVERY, I THINK EVERY 25 MINUTES OR ONE OR EVERY 40 MINUTES, EXCUSE ME, THAT IS NOT A MATERIAL IMPACT. 
          IF YOU ADD ANOTHER DWELLING UNIT ALONG SEED FRONT LANE, YOU GO 
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FROM THAT ROAD SERVING 15 DWELLING UNITS RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS AT ONLY 7.5% OF ITS CAPACITY UP TO 16 DWELLING UNITS, WHICH STILL IS ONLY 8% OF THE CAPACITY OF THAT ROAD UNDER THE YELLOW. 
          NO. 
          SO GRANTED NO DOUBT THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ADDITIONAL TRIPS. 
          10 ADDITIONAL DWELLING, EXCUSE ME, 10 ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC TRIPS PER DAY. 
          THE QUESTION ISN'T, ARE THERE GONNA BE MORE TRIPS? THE QUESTION IS, ARE THOSE ADDITIONAL TRIPS DETRIMENTAL TO THE INTERESTS OF THE OTHER OWNERS? THAT IS A MINUSCULE INCREASE THAT I DON'T THINK IS DETRIMENTAL. 
          CERTAINLY NOT MATERIALLY DETRIMENTAL. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S HOW YOU NEED TO NEED TO APPROACH THIS, NOT ARE THERE MORE TRIPS? 'CAUSE WE READILY ADMIT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. 
          THE QUESTION IS, ARE THOSE MORE TRIPS DETRIMENTAL TO THE INTEREST? AND WHEN I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, YOU'LL COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THIS APPLICATION MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA THAT ARE IN THE CODE AND YOU'LL OUGHT TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. 
          QUESTIONS. 
          QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER, LOOKING AT THIS, THIS GRAPHIC BEFORE ME, WOULDN'T IT SEEM THAT U AND T BY NOT ONLY BEING DEVELOPED, BUT BUT ADDING AN ADDITIONAL LOT WITHIN THOSE DUE TO THEIR LOCATION ON THE ROADWAY, MEANING ON THE END OF THE ROADWAY, WHATEVER EFFECTS WOULD YOU AGREE WOULD BE MAGNIFIED BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER OWNERS ARE, WILL BE PASSED BY ANY OF THOSE TRIPS? SURE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WOULD YOU AGREE THERE? SURE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. SMITH? COMMISSIONER, UH, HENS? UM, A A COUPLE THINGS THAT I'M WRESTLING WITH AGAIN. 
          ONE IS A SUBDIVISION IS A SUBDIVISION FOR A PURPOSE THAT'S BUY INTO A SUBDIVISION BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE BUYING. 
          HERE'S THE LOTS AND HERE'S WHAT I CAN EXPECT. 
          UM, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT A REAL SUBDIVISION AND OH, NOT, I I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS A, WASN'T A REAL SUBDIVISION. 
          IT'S CLEARLY A REAL SUBDIVISION. 
          THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT WAS APPROVED BY A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO. 
          AGAIN, I I I'M NOT GONNA RESOLVE MY ISSUE HERE. 
          I'LL, UM, SECOND THING THOUGH IS, IS YOU'RE MAKING THE POINT ON 10 TRIPS PER DAY PER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, BUT THIS IS SECOND ROW OCEAN. 
          SO IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS GONNA BE SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          WHAT IS THE, UM, AND SINCE WE DON'T KNOW, WHAT COULD THE NUMBER OF TRIPS PER DAY BE FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT WOULD IMPACT THIS? UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORS, THE, THE STANDARD FOR DETERMINING TRAFFIC TRIPS IS THE INSTITUTE OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TRIP GENERATION MANUAL. 
          AND IT CLA IT, IT DEALS WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. 
          IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T DEAL WITH WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE PRIMARY RESIDENCES, SECONDARY RESIDENCE RENTAL PROPERTIES. 
          IT'S JUST A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. 
          SO IT'S 10 TRAFFIC TRIPS PER DAY. 
          MR. MUELLER HAS A QUESTION, COULD YOU DISCLOSE OR, UH, WHICH OF THE THREE LOTS THE FAMILY PLANS TO KEEP? UH, LOT. 
          ONE, TWO OR THREE? LOT THREE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THAT IS THE LOT THREE. 
          LOT THREE, WHICH IS THE OCEAN FRONT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND WITH, WITH RESPECT TO THE CONFIGURATION THAT'S PRESENTED, I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT IF YOU'RE PRONE TO APPROVE THIS, THAT YOU CAN APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS. 
          THE CONDITION BEING THAT NO, NONE OF THE RESULTING LOTS HAVE LESS THAN 75 FOOT FRONTAGE. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHOLLY WITHIN Y'ALL'S AUTHORITY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UH, CURTIS, COULD I ASK IF, IF THAT'S YOUR INTERPRETATION AS WELL? I DO NOT SEE THE TEXT FOR THIS REVIEW PROCESS TO ENCOMPASS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, NOR DO I SEE THE TEXT THAT PROHIBITS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS AND ZONING ORDINANCES ARE ALWAYS STRICTLY CONSTRUED AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT AND IN FAVOR OF THE LANDOWNER TO ALLOW THE BROADEST AND FREEST USE OF ONE'S PROPERTY. 
          THAT'S THE CASE LAW IN SOUTH CAROLINA. 
          GOING BACK TO PURDY VERSUS MOE'S COMMISSIONER WHALEY, I HAVE, UH, A QUICK QUESTION. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS DIRECTED TO YOU, ATTORNEY WILLIAMS OR NOT, COULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE FAMILY ITSELF. 
          UM, WE DID RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT AS YOU'VE PRESENTED INTO THE, UH, INTO THE, UM, MINUTES 
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AND IN SCANNING SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND GOING BACK TO CRITERIA, I DON'T KNOW IF TREY OR MISSY HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS. 
          THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AFFECTING THE INCREASED UTILITY OF THE PROPERTY AND ONE OR TWO OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS DO MENTION THAT THERE'S FAIR AMOUNT OF FLOODING AT THE END OF THAT STREET. 
          UM, DOES THAT NOT QUALIFY AS A DECREASED UTILITY TO THE OTHER LANDOWNERS? IF THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED? UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WITH 75 FEET, UH, AMELIORATE THAT BECAUSE IT'D BE LESS IMPERVIOUS. 
          THAT'S OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS. 
          BUT, UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW. 
          HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT? HAVE YOU AND THE FAMILY DISCUSSED THE IMPACT FROM A ENJOYING YOUR OTHER LANDOWNERS, ENJOYING THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOW SUBJECT TO INCREASED FLOODING? HOLD YOU GOTTA TALK. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND. 
          AND COULD YOU PULL UP A, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THE STAFF COULD PULL UP A GOOGLE MAP OF THAT AREA, SO YOU COULD JUST LOOK AT THE, UH, THE TOPOGRAPHY A LITTLE BIT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UH, JUST TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE, THE WHOLE STREET FLOODS, IT'S NOT JUST THE END OF THE STREET, AND THAT IS NOT DUE TO ANY HOMEOWNER. 
          THAT IS THE WAY THE TOWN PAVED THE STREET AT THAT POINT. 
          I MEAN, THE TOWN NEEDS TO COME BACK AND REDO THE STREET TO MITIGATE THAT. 
          IT FLOODS AT THE TOP OF THE STREET JUST AS MUCH AS IT DOES AT THE END OF THE STREET. 
          I WOULD SAY THE TOP OF THE STREET, BERKS BEACH, YOU KNOW, ALL ALONG THE, THE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE 50 FEET THAT YOU HAVE THERE, YEAH, IT WOULD BE, UH, EIGHT, A NINE A, UM, 10 A. 
          THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE FLOODING IS ON THAT STREET. 
          EVERY EVERYONE WHO'S HERE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK IS GONNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO. 
          SO, UH, LET'S, UH, MS. WALTON, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? YES, ALICE WALTON. 
          UM, JUST TO ADDRESS THE FLOODING ISSUE, YES, UH, WATER DOES BUILD AT THE END OF THE STREET, BUT IT DRAINS PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE IT FLOWS INTO THE MARSH. 
          UM, AS BRANDON SAID EARLIER, THE BASIC FLOODING OR THE MAJORITY OF THE FLOODING STOP STARTS AT THE TOP OF THE STREET. 
          BUT THERE'S A FLOODING AREA IN THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION. 
          AND, UM, NOT ALONG THE ROADS, BUT AT THE END OF EVERY ONE OF THOSE STREETS. 
          AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH THE TOWN AS WELL AS THE COUNTY ABOUT FLOODING. 
          THERE WERE SOME, UM, MISUNDERSTANDINGS, OR NOT DRAINAGE PIPES WERE PUT IN WHEN SUN LOTS WERE DEVELOPED. 
          SO IT'S CAUSING BACKUP AND THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY TOGETHER IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMING UP WITH A PLAN TO CREATE A BETTER DRAINAGE PROCESS FOR THAT ENTIRE SUBDIVISION. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST THAT STREET, IT'S THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. SMITH, DID YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO THE OTHERS? UM, I WANT TO ASK ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          IF, IF WE, UH, IF WE CHOOSE TO, IF YOU ALL CHOOSE NOT TO BE FAVORABLE IN OUR DIRECTION, DOES THAT PROHIBIT US FROM COMING BACK WITH A NEW APPLICATION WITH THE 75 FOOT FRONT, UH, FRONTAGE OR ONCE YOU SAY NO, YOU SAY IT'S, IT'S NO, I I THOUGHT I HEARD, OR IS THAT A TOWN QUESTION? I THOUGHT I HEARD MR. COLTRANE SAYING THAT IT, IT WOULD BE, UH, YOU WOULD REAPPLY WITH A NEW APPLICATION, BUT I SEE HE'S CONSULTING RIGHT NOW. 
          HE DOES NOT CORRECT IT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          NO, BUT THE, THE CODE PROHIBIT IF AN APPLICATION IS DENIED, THE CODE PROHIBITS THE SAME APPLICATION BEING FILED FOR ANOTHER YEAR. 
          A DIFFERENT APPLICATION WITH A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION WOULD BE WHOLLY PERMISSIBLE. 
          BUT LIKE I SAY, WHY GO THROUGH ALL THAT WHEN I THINK IT'S WHOLLY WITHIN YOUR POWER TO PLACE CONDITIONS ON THIS APPROVAL. 
          THE CONDITION BEING THAT NO LOT HAVE LESS THAN A 75 FOOT FRONTAGE. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. SMITH? I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO THE OTHERS NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, OTHERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH US, PLEASE COME FORWARD. 
          STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND, AND WHERE YOU LIVE AND, UH, SEE IF WE CAN, UH, HOLD YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES IF POSSIBLE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MY NAME'S DAVID FALKINSTEIN, MY WIFE RUTH. 
          WE LIVE AT THE PROPERTY RIGHT BEHIND THIS ON, UH, 14 SANDY BEACH TRAIL. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, I HAD A WHOLE THING TO READ OUT AND I'M NOT GONNA, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE 
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ALL SEEN YOUR WRITTEN COMMENTS. 
          I KNOW YOU DID. 
          YES. 
          UH, I LIKE TO WRITE, UM, BUT I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT. 
          UH, I JUST WANNA ADDRESS PRACTICAL ITEMS, UH, AS I READ THROUGH WHAT THE TOWN'S PURPOSE IN ADMINISTRATING THESE PIECES. 
          I'M NOT A LAWYER, I'M AN ACTUARY. 
          THAT PROBABLY GETS ME KICKED OUTTA HERE. 
          BUT, UM, IT SEEMS ALL THIS IS CENTERED AROUND SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT DETRIMENTAL TO THE REASONABLE INVESTMENT BACK EX UH, EXPECTATIONS OF OWNERS. 
          I'M AN OWNER. 
          UH, I LIVE HERE. 
          I DON'T RENT MY PROPERTY. 
          AND WHEN I BUILT THE HOUSE, RUTH AND I BUILT THE HOUSE. 
          WE LOOKED AT THE LOT, WE LOOKED AT CONFIGURATION OF THE LOTS AROUND US. 
          WE SET OUR HOUSE UP IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION TO HAVE CERTAIN VIEWS AND THINGS THAT WERE DEPENDENT ON THAT LOT CONFIGURATION, THOSE LOT CONFIGURATIONS THAT HAVE STOOD FOR 60 YEARS. 
          WE ASKED THE POA WILL THIS CHANGE? NO, IT WON'T. 
          IN FACT, SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT APPROVED THIS AT OUR POA LEVEL NEVER ASKED US WHAT WE THOUGHT, NEVER ASKED THE FOLKS THAT WHOSE LOT SITS RIGHT BEHIND IT, THAT WE MOST AFFECTED BY IT, WHAT IMPACT IT MIGHT HAVE ON US. 
          AND SO I CONSIDER THAT APPROVAL MINIMAL, IN MY OPINION. 
          IN FACT, SEVERAL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT APPROVED THAT A YEAR EARLIER SPOKE OUT AGAINST SMALLER LOTS AND CHANGES IN HOUSE SIZES AND SEEMS VERY CON UH, INCONSISTENT TO ME ON THAT BASIS. 
          NOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE FLOODING AND IT'S INDISPUTABLE, AND I CAN SHARE THESE PICTURES. 
          THE ROAD DOES NOT FLOOD TOWARDS, UH, UH, TOWARDS BURKES BEACH ROAD. 
          THIS IS BY HOUSE. 
          AND I SIT RIGHT NEXT TO THE MARSH AND THAT WATER'S FIVE AND A HALF INCHES DEEP. 
          AND IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. 
          AND THAT PICKS TO SEE FRONT LANE FLOODING ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK OF THE CUL-DE-SAC, WHERE THESE LOTS ARE. 
          UH, I RESPECT EVERYBODY'S RIGHT TO OWN A LOT AND TO SELL THE LOT FOR RUDDER VALUE THEY CAN GET. 
          THEY SHOULD. 
          THEY'VE OWNED IT. 
          THEY PAID THE TAXES ON IT, THEY DESERVE IT. 
          BUT FUNDAMENTALLY, ALLOWING FOLKS TO CHANGE SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS THE INVESTMENT BACKED INVOLVEMENT OF ANOTHER OWNER AND OWNER TO ME, IS ONE OR MANY IS WHAT YOU ARE EMPOWERED NOT ALLOW TO OCCUR. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO OCCUR HERE. 
          OKAY? AND AGAIN, I COULD GO THROUGH A WHOLE PIECE HERE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE TO ME, THIS IS A PRACTICAL ITEM TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY, OF THIS ISLAND TO KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF THIS PLACE TOGETHER. 
          AND ONE OF OUR PROBLEMS AT BURKE'S BEACH IS, UM, THE VAST MAJORITY OF HOMES ARE RENTALS WHERE THE OWNERS ARE NOT KNOWN. 
          THEY'RE NOT THERE. 
          THEY DON'T SEE ANY OF THIS GOING ON. 
          THEY HAVE NO IDEA THIS IS HAPPENING. 
          THEY DON'T CARE. 
          THEY DON'T CARE UNTIL THEY GET CITED FOR CARS BEING ON THE YARD, THE CARS IN THE STREET OR REFUSE TRAFFIC, WHATEVER NOISE GOING ON AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. 
          AND THAT'S OKAY. 
          WE MOVED INTO RENTAL COMMUNITY, I GET THAT. 
          BUT TO ME, I MADE AN INVESTMENT. 
          IT WAS BASED ON HOW THESE LOTS WERE SET UP AND THAT INVESTMENT'S GOING TO BE DIMINISHED BY AN APPROVAL TO SPLIT THESE LOTS. 
          AND THAT'S, THANK YOU MR. STEIN. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OTHER, OTHER COMMENTS BY PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WANNA TALK TO US ON THIS, UH, TOPIC, PLEASE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          YES. 
          MY NAME IS, UH, DEBBIE SCUDO. 
          I LIVE AT TWO C FRONT LANE. 
          I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE SEPTEMBER. 
          I'M AN OWNER. 
          I DON'T RENT MY HOUSE. 
          AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO REBUTTAL SOME OF THE, THE, UM, COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE ON THE ISSUE OF TRAFFIC. 
          THESE HOUSES, WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY THERE, WERE VERY SMALL PEOPLE ARE BUILDING 8,000, 9,000, 7,000 SQUARE FOOT HOMES. 
          THESE PEOPLE ARE BRINGING IN EIGHT TO 10 CARS, PARKING ALL OVER. 
          SO JUST IF THOSE CARS GO OUT TWICE, THAT'S 20 TRIPS. 
          20 TRIPS. 
          HOW MANY LOTS DO YOU HAVE RIGHT THERE? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 12 TIMES 20. 
          THAT'S JUST, IF THEY GO OUT TWICE, IT'S, IT'S VERY DISHEARTENING TO, TO SEE THAT ALL THE, ALL THESE COMMENTS ARE BASED ON VERY ANTIQUATED, UM, BUILDING STRUCTURES. 
          BECAUSE THESE HOUSES ARE NOT 1000 SQUARE FEET, 2000 SQUARE FEET. 
          THERE ARE ALMOST MANY HOTELS. 
          THEY HAVE COMMERCIAL LICENSES, THEY HAVE CLEANING CLASS, THEY HAVE CONCIERGE SERVICES. 
          AND EVEN THOUGH THE OWNERS SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RENT THEM, THERE IS NOTHING THAT'S GONNA PROHIBIT THEM ONCE THEY GET APPROVAL TO CHANGE THAT. 
          AND I'M DOWN AT THE END RIGHT WHERE ALL THE FLOODING HAPPENS. 
          AND ALTHOUGH IT DOES DRAIN A LOT OF THE FLOODING IS PERMANENTLY THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP TO A PUDDLE BECAUSE OF THEIR SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AND THE SHOWERS. 
          SO NOT, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE HOUSES ARE BRINGING IN OTHER WATER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST 
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NOT THE FLOODING. 
          THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE NOW COMING IN THAT ARE CREATING, UM, ISSUES OF FLOODING. 
          THE WATER IS NEVER DRAINING. 
          IT'S ALWAYS ON. 
          YOU HAVE MOSQUITO PROBLEMS, NOW YOU HAVE ALL KINDS OF ISSUES, BUT I DON'T THINK WE GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          OTHERS IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH US ON THIS TOPIC? ANYBODY ELSE I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I'D LIKE TO SPEAK. 
          YES, SIR. 
          PLEASE COME FORWARD. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          COULD YOU COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AT THE PODIUM? UH, MY NAME IS ADAM LIPSON. 
          UM, I AM A RESIDENT OF BERKS BEACH COMMUNITY. 
          UH, I'M A, UH, TECHNICALLY A FULL-TIME RESIDENT. 
          I DO NOT RENT MY HOME. 
          AND, UH, I AM ON THE H-O-A-P-O-A. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, UH, I WANNA THANK THE, UH, AND I AM A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL. 
          IT'S A SIDE BUSINESS. 
          I HOUSE, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT, LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAND USE AND I HEARD SOME REALLY GOOD ARGUMENTS HERE AND THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR ME. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          UM, I AM AN EXPERT ON, UH, TRAFFIC. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING I ACTUALLY HAVE GREAT EXPERTISE IN, AND I GARNERED THAT FROM I CAN, EVERYONE IN NEW YORK CITY CAN SAY THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M FROM AND WE KNOW ABOUT TRAFFIC, AND YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT THAT IN THE NEWS. 
          UM, SO I FOUND THAT INTERESTING, THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION. 
          I I TOOK THE TIME BEFORE AND TO READ ABOUT THE FIVE CRITERIA. 
          AND I DO THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR STREET, UM, I APPLAUD FOR NOTICE NOTING THAT A HOUSE DOWN THE STREET IS DIFFERENT THAN ONE AT THE END OF THE STREET AND CONTRIBUTES TO TRAFFIC DIFFERENTLY. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. 
          AND I WOULD REFUTE THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY 10 CARS A DAY. 
          MAYBE THERE ARE 30 CARS DOWN HIGH SEASON PER PER HOUSE, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM 15 HOUSES TO 16 HOUSES TO SIX AND A QUARTER PERCENT INCREASE. 
          IT DOESN'T LIKE, IT'S A REALLY BIG INCREASE, BUT IT COULD BE IF YOU'RE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT CAPACITY ON TRAFFIC. 
          BUT THIS IS ABOUT NUANCE CAPACITY. 
          IF YOU'RE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT OR 110%, 6% IS PRETTY DRAMATIC. 
          IT COULD, IT COULD REALLY, IT COULD REALLY IMPACT. 
          BUT THIS STREET IS NOT EVEN AT PEAK SEASON. 
          IF IT'S AT 30, IF IT'S AT 40, IT'S NOT STILL NOT HIGH TRAFFIC. 
          MAYBE IT'S A CAR EVERY TWO MINUTES. 
          WE'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, DEBBIE SCAR, TO MY ESTEEM NEIGHBOR, MADE A PRETTY GOOD ARGUMENT ABOUT WATER PARKING. 
          I THINK I WANNA DISTINGUISH ENFORCEMENT ISSUES FROM REGULATORY ISSUES. 
          THOSE LAWS NEED TO BE ENFORCED IN A CERTAIN WAY IF THEY'RE NOT ENFORCED. 
          IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY HOUSES THERE ARE. 
          IF THERE ARE FOUR HOUSES EVERYONE CHOOSE TO PARK ON THE STREET AT NIGHT, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED. 
          IF PEOPLE ARE STICKING 18 CARS OUTTA THEIR HOUSES, WHICH IS NOT PERMITTED BY, BY THE HOA, THE POA OR BY THE TOWN, AND IT'S NOT ENFORCED. 
          NONE OF THESE RULES MATTER. 
          UH, I LOOK AT THIS TRULY AS AN ISSUE OF NUANCE, AND I DO THINK I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR, BY THE DAVID SAYS HE, HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONFIGURATION IS HOUSED. 
          AND I THINK HIS COMMENTS WERE INCREDIBLY FAIR ABOUT HIS RIGHTS BEING IMPINGED UPON. 
          BUT I DO THINK IT'S AN ISSUE OF NUANCE, AND I DO THINK THAT THEY HAVE SOME RIGHTS TOO AS WELL. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THE ARGUMENT CONFORMS TO ANY DETRIMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          THE FLOODING ISSUES ARE, I THINK IS IRRELEVANT. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA CAUSE MORE OR LESS FLOODING. 
          UH, MY OBSERVATION AND ONLY MY OPINION IS THAT MOST OF THE FLOODING, AND DEBBIE'S HAS SAID THIS TO ME RECENTLY THIS MORNING, THAT THE FLOODING WAS ON HER END OF THE STREET. 
          YOU HEARD IT IN HER TESTIMONY. 
          UM, THAT WHOLE STREET TENDS TO FLOOD. 
          AND, AND, AND THAT'S NOT A COUNTY, UH, TOWN ISSUE. 
          THAT IS A COUNTY ISSUE WITH THE CULVERT. 
          AND, UH, THE HOA HAS BEEN IN CONVERSATION MANY TIMES ABOUT THAT THERE ARE DIFFICULT TO GET COOPERATION ON. 
          UH, BUT THAT'S THE CONDITION OF THAT STREET. 
          AND NO EXTRA HOUSE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE FLOODING CONDITION. 
          THAT IS A FUNCTION OF THE FACT THAT IT SITS ON A MARSH AND THERE'S NO CONNECTION OF THE CULVERT TO THE, TO BURKE SPEECH. 
          UM, I, I, I PERSONALLY WANNA SUPPORT ALICE ON, ON THIS THING. 
          I DON'T SEE IT AS SIGNIFICANTLY DETRIMENTAL. 
          I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT GOING FROM 3% UTILIZATION TO THREE AND A QUARTER PERCENT FROM SIX TO SIX AND A QUARTER FROM EIGHT TO 10. 
          FROM 13 TO 14. 
          YOU CAN PICK YOUR NUMBER, BUT IT'S NOT 80 TO 90. 
          HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY SMALL USE AND I THINK NUANCE IS IMPORTANT. 
          I WANT THE REST. 
          AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR GREAT QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUR COMMENTS FOR LISTENING TO A LOCAL NEW YORKER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS GUYS. 
          UH, ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD? GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS MARGARET GREEN JOHNSON AND I'M A RESIDENT OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND FOR THE LAST 40 PLUS YEARS. 
          AND I WAS STRUGGLING WITH WHETHER OR NOT TO COME FORWARD. 
          I'M HERE IN GENERAL BECAUSE I WANNA LEARN THE PROCESS OF HOW DECISIONS ARE MADE IN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD. 
          AND AFTER I RETIRED, ONE OF MY GOALS WAS TO ATTEND MORE MEETINGS AND TO BE AN ACTIVE VOICE. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE AGENDA ITEM, BUT I DO KNOW ALICE WALTON AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER, UH, CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY, UH, COME INTO HOW DECISIONS ARE MADE. 
          BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN I MOVED HERE OVER 40 YEARS AGO 
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AS A NEWLY SINGLE MOM TO JOIN MY MOTHER AND FATHER, NATIVE ISLANDERS OF HILTON HEAD ALICE AND HER FAMILY WELCOMED ME WARMLY. 
          AND I HAVE ONLY SEEN FROM HER AND HER FAMILY THE GREATEST RESPECT FOR ALL THINGS HILTON HEAD, FOR ALL PEOPLE. 
          AND AGAIN, I, I TRUST AND BELIEVE THAT WHATEVER THEY COMMIT TO DO WITH ANYTHING THAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, THEIR WORD IS THEIR BOND. 
          AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT COMES INTO YOUR DECISION MAKING, BUT IF CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT, I STRONGLY SUPPORT THEIR APPLICATION AND YOUR APPROVAL OF THEIR APPLICATION IN EITHER THIS OR THE FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          UH, AN ANYBODY ELSE? YES. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY NAME IS RUTH STEIN. 
          I ALSO HAVE A 14TH CANDY MA'AM TRAIL. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, AND I JUST HAVE TWO THINGS. 
          UM, ONE BEING THAT I KNOW IN, I THINK ONE OF THE CRITERIA, UM, AND THE WALTON'S VERY NICELY SAID THAT THEY WILL NOT BE RENTING 'EM. 
          BUT I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO GO INTO THIS WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THESE HOUSES COULD BE RENTED. 
          THAT IS A REALITY OF HILTON HEAD, UNLESS YOU'RE IN A, UH, PLANTATION THAT DOESN'T ALLOW IT AND BURKE BEACH DOES. 
          SO I THINK AS A HOMEOWNER, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AS IT LIKELY WILL BE RENTED. 
          SECOND THING IS, UM, I I, WITH THE POA NOT CONSULTING THE NEIGHBORS AND IT JUST A FOUR MEMBER BOARD VOTING ON IT, I FEEL LIKE AT SOME POINT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT VERY MUCH AFFECTS THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE SHOULD HAVE ALL BEEN, UM, AT LEAST TOLD THAT THIS WAS EVEN A CONSIDERATION. 
          WE DID NOT FIND OUT EVEN THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A, A APPLICATION UNTIL WE WOKE UP ON AUGUST 13TH AND THEY WERE PLOWING DOWN THE TREES, I BELIEVE, WITHOUT A PERMIT, BUT, AND I HAD TO CALL THE CITY OR THE COUNTY AND FIND OUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 
          SO I FEEL LIKE THE NEIGHBOR, THE POA, SHOULD HAVE CONSULTED US. 
          BUT ALL THAT BEING SAID, DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT THESE HOUSES COULD VERY MUCH BE RENTALS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          I'M GONNA ASK ONE MORE TIME. 
          ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH US? UH, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN. 
          I WANTED TO BE, BEFORE WE GO TO COMMISSION DISCUSSION ON THIS, UH, MR. COLTRANE, COULD YOU GIVE US ONE MORE TIME YOUR TAKE ON IF, IF THE APPLICATION IS NOT APPROVED TODAY, BUT, AND WE CAN'T APPROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS, BUT IF IT COMES BACK TO US IN 30 DAYS IN A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION, WE WOULD, IS IS THAT STILL A POSSIBLE OUTCOME? I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE IF, IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION CORRECTLY. 
          SO IF, LET'S START WITH THIS ONE. 
          IF THE APPLICATION IS DENIED TODAY, THE APPLICANT CAN COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT APPLICATION, MEANING A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION OF THE TWO LOTS, WHICH WOULD BE A DIFFERENT APPLICATION. 
          THE APPLICANT CAN DO THAT WITHIN A 30 DAY TIMEFRAME. 
          THEY WOULD NEED TO WAIT FOR A YEAR, RIGHT? NO, THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO WAIT. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE IT'S A NEW APPLICATION, IT'S DIFFERENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AGAIN, AND MS. LU AND I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS, THE, THE PROCESS THAT'S LOUD, THE PROCESS, UM, TODAY GIVES THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE ABILITY TO APPROVE OR DENY DOESN'T INCLUDE THE, OKAY. 
          IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T, UM, PREVENT THE APPLICANT FROM COMING BACK WITH SOME DIFFERENT APPLICATION IF, IF THIS DOESN'T COME FORWARD. 
          WAS THERE A THIRD THAT, THAT WAS THE CLARIFICATION I WAS ASKING FOR. 
          DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION ON OUR OPTIONS? COMMISSIONER? OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER HAN? YES. 
          WHAT ARE WE VOTING FOR? TO SEND THIS TO, UH, COUNSEL? NO, OR TO APPROVE THIS SUBJECT? THIS IS TO APPROVE OR DENY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF IT'S DENIED, IT CAN COME BACK WITH, WITH A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION. 
          ANOTHER MEETING IS TO PROVE THEY CAN SET THE VOTE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO, UH, YES. 
          COMMISSIONER DEIS, IS IT CORRECT THAT IF IT'S DENIED TODAY THAT THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP THE APPLICANT FROM DEVELOPING THE TWO LOTS AS IS CORRECT? YES. 
          CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          FINAL COMMENT FROM ME? YES, SIR. 
          UM, IF IT IS APPROVED, UM, I THINK WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THE 75 VERSUS HAVING TO WAIT ANOTHER 30 DAYS AND COME BACK AND RECONFIGURE. 
          UM, YOU GUYS COULD HOLD US TO THAT, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, OUR PLAN, BECAUSE THAT'S THE BEST PLAN, UH, TO MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO EACH, THE FRONTAGE WOULD BE 75, 75, 76 
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0.124. 
          AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD HOLD TO THAT OUTSIDE OF WHAT YOU SEE THERE, WHICH IS THE 62.0 2, 62 0.02, AND THEN THE 1 0 4 0.85. 
          OKAY. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT AND I HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE THAT YOU WOULD DO THAT. 
          UH, BUT I THINK WE'RE ACTING ON THE APPLICATION AS IT EXISTS RIGHT NOW. 
          SO, UM, WHAT IS THE, UH, PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION? WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADVANCE A MOTION OF ANY SORT? I WOULD, UH, MOVE, WE ADVANCE THE MOTION. 
          UH, WHAT, WHAT MOTION WOULD THAT BE? THE MOTION? IT'S ON THE TABLE, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES. 
          YES. 
          I THINK EITHER YOU SHOULD FIND OUT IF EITHER STAFF OR THE APPLICANT HAS ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION. 
          UM, UH, MR. SMITH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR PRESENT OR, OR ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS? NOT UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I MEAN, I I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE GENERAL SAID THIS IS, IT'S A DETRIMENTAL, IT'S A JUDGMENT CALL. 
          I MEAN, IT'S IS IT MATERIALLY DETRIMENTAL? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. 
          UH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANY OF Y'ALL DO. 
          SO, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE KEY ISSUE HERE, YOU KNOW, IS AN INCREASE OF THE CAPACITY THAT THE TRIPS ON THAT STREET FROM 7.5% OF THE CAPACITY NOW TO 8%. 
          IS THAT A, A, A DETRIMENT TO THE OWNERS DOWN THERE? I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE IT. 
          MAYBE Y'ALL DISAGREE. 
          ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS OF MR. SMITH? OKAY. 
          WOULD, UH, STAFF LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO US ANY FURTHER? OKAY. 
          IT'S BACK TO US THEN. 
          SO YES, SIR. 
          COMMISSIONER LOBAUGH. 
          UH, I, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFLICTED BECAUSE I, UM, I AM IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT AT 75 FEET PER LOT, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M UNCLEAR ON IF WE CAN APPROVE, YOU KNOW, MAKE A MOTION IN THAT FASHION OR NOT. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE VOTING ON THE APPLICATION AS IT EXISTS TODAY. 
          AND IF, IF WE APPROVE THAT, THAT WILL BE WHAT IS DONE. 
          EVEN IF THE FAMILY INTENDS TO DO IT IN THE 75 FOOT RANGE THAT THEY HAVE DECLARED, THEY WERE, IF WE DENY THE APPLICATION TODAY, THEY COULD COME BACK TO US WITH A RECONFIGURED APPLICATION THAT WE COULD CONSIDER ON FEBRUARY 19TH, I BELIEVE MR. COLTRANE. 
          AM I, IS ARE THOSE OUR OPTIONS? YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WITH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I MEAN, I DISAGREE. 
          EVERY APPLICATION THAT COMES BEFORE Y'ALL, YOU HAVE THE OP YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY. 
          I DON'T SEE IF THIS IS ANY, IF THIS IS A SUB, IF THIS WAS A STAFF APPROVAL SUBDIVISION, THE STAFF HAS THE, THE ABILITY TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY. 
          AND I THINK Y'ALL HAVE THE EXACT SAME AUTHORITY HERE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SPECIFICALLY SPELLED OUT IN THE CODE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I APPRECIATE Y YOUR ADVICE ON THAT, MR. SMITH, BUT I'M, I'M FEELING BOUND TO, UM, UH, TO FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF THE, THE, THE LEGAL ADVICE OF THE TOWN ATTORNEY. 
          SO WE'LL KEEP THAT STANDING FOR NOW. 
          Y YES, MA'AM. 
          DID, WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          WELL, I JUST WANTED HIM TO CLARIFY WHY. 
          IF IT'S 75, IT'S STILL THREE LOTS AND THE CRITERIA WAS THE DETRIMENT. 
          SO WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE APPROVAL? OKAY. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UH, WHAT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION? OUR MOTION, WE APPROVE SUB 0 0 1 1 3 6 20 24. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HENS, UM, DISCUSSION. 
          THIS IS THE MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS IT EXISTS BEFORE US RIGHT NOW. 
          NO DISCUSSION, NO QUESTIONS. 
          ARE WE READY TO VOTE? UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, UH, THE MOTION, THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          SO WE ARE GOOD. 
          AND, AND THANK YOU MR. WALTON, FOR YOUR, UM, UH, INDICATION THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS. 
          OKAY? OKAY. 
          WE ARE GOING TO MOVE NEXT 
          [6.b. Introduction to Land Management Ordinance Priority Amendments to include
Workforce Housing Density Bonus, Single-Family Home and Commercial
Mass & Scale, Subdivision Regulations, Adaptive Re-Use of Existing Hotels &
Motels, Major Subdivision & Development Plan Review Process,
Transportation Impact Analysis Plan, Common Open Space, Tree Protection,
Sign Regulations, and Construction Management Standards.]
TO THE REORDERED AGENDA ITEM, UH, LISTED ON YOUR AGENDA AS SIX B, WHICH IS A PRESENTATION, UH, ON LAND MANAGEMENT OR, OR ORDINANCE PRIORITY AMENDMENTS. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S GONNA BE GIVEN BY MISSY LEIC. 
          SO MISSY, WOULD YOU COME FORWARD? 
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YEAH, IT'S RIGHT HERE ON YOUR AGENDA PAGE. 
          INTRODUCTION TO LAND MANAGEMENT ORDERS. 
          NOW YOU'LL SEE SHE'S GONNA BRING UP GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UM, MY NAME IS MISSY LU. 
          I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. 
          UM, IN THIS AGENDA ITEM, WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS INTRODUCTION OF 10 AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE. 
          UM, THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCTION IS TO REVIEW, UM, OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS, UM, AND SUGGESTIONS IN PREPARATION FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT IS GOING TO BE SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 19TH. 
          WE ARE NOT ASKING THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS TODAY ON ANY OF THESE AMENDMENTS THAT WE WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW ON. 
          SO AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOUR INITIAL REVIEW COMMENTS. 
          WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS, UM, UNDERSTAND WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU NEED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE SO THAT YOU'RE READY TO MAKE A DECISION. 
          IF YOU, UM, AFTER THIS REVIEW HAVE FEEDBACK THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO COMMUNICATE, UM, FEEL FREE TO COMMUNICATE THROUGH THE CHAIR TO US SO WE CAN PREPARE FOR THAT PUBLIC HEARING. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO BE INFORMED. 
          UM, ON THE 19TH WHEN WE REVIEW THIS INFORMATION, UH, FOR THE HEARING, UM, SOME OF THE, THE BACKGROUND ON, UM, THIS AMENDMENT PROCESS WAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF MEMO. 
          UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON AN LMO AMENDMENT PROJECT FOR SOME TIME. 
          UM, THERE ARE TWO MAIN COMPONENTS IN THE AMENDMENT PROJECT. 
          ONE IS WE'RE WORKING ON A FULL CODE OVERHAUL. 
          SO THAT IS, UM, THE, THE LARGER, UM, MORE COMPREHENSIVE COMPONENT TO THE LMO AMENDMENTS PROJECT. 
          WHAT'S BEFORE YOU NOW IS THE PRIORITY AMENDMENT SET. 
          THE PRIORITY AMENDMENTS ARE MEANT TO, UM, PROVIDE SOME AMENDMENTS TO AFFECT CHANGE IN SOME AREAS WHERE WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING SOME CHALLENGES IN OUR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND WE'RE RESPONDING TO THOSE COMMUNITY NEEDS. 
          WE HAVE, UM, REVIEWED THE PRIORITY AMENDMENTS PREVIOUSLY WITH TOWN COUNCIL. 
          UM, WE HAD A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS IN SEPTEMBER TO GO THROUGH THESE PRIORITY AMENDMENTS AS WELL AS OUR, UM, DISTRICT PLANNING INITIATIVE. 
          UM, AND SO, BUT WE'VE IDENTIFIED CERTAIN PRIORITIES THAT CANNOT WAIT FOR THAT FULL CODE OVERHAUL. 
          UM, WE HAVE MADE A SERIES OF AMENDMENTS AS PART OF THE PRIORITY AMENDMENT SET ALREADY. 
          UM, IN MARCH OF 2023, WE, WE APPROVED, UM, A, AN AMENDMENT THAT AFFECTED CHANGE TO SOME STAFF WAIVERS, UM, SOME BIKE STORAGE REQUIREMENTS, UM, MANUFACTURING USES RELATED TO BREWERIES. 
          UM, CHANGED THE TRAFFIC COUNT DATE FROM JULY, FROM JUNE TO JULY, AND CHANGED HOW AND WHEN PLANTINGS ARE REQUIRED AS, AS IT CONFORMS TO SUBDIVISION COMPLIANCE. 
          WE'VE AMENDED THE DEFINITION OF CHANGEABLE COPY FOR SIGNAGE. 
          WE'VE AMENDED THE MEASUREMENT FOR HEIGHT. 
          WE, UM, REQUIRED OWNER'S CONSENT FOR MINOR SUBDIVISIONS AND REQUIRED A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SUBDIVISION AMENDMENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN IN MARCH OF 23, WE APPROVED STANDARDS FOR DEVIATIONS FROM PREVIOUSLY PLATTED SUBDIVISIONS, WHICH YOU JUST HEARD THE FIRST CASE, UM, THAT WAS PART OF THAT, UM, AMENDMENT THAT WAS APPROVED IN, IN MARCH OF 2023. 
          UM, AND AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE NOW THAT THOSE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS, UM, WERE ADDED TO THE CODE, UM, BACK IN 2023 TO HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS THE DECISION MAKING BODY ON DEVIATIONS THAT MEET THOSE RE THOSE CRITERIA. 
          UM, IN ADDITION, IN MAY OF 23, THE DEFINITIONS WERE CHANGED FOR SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY AND DIVISIBLE DWELLING UNITS. 
          THEN IN MAY OF 2024, THERE WERE AMENDMENTS TO, UM, FOUR SPEECH FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO THAT BROUGHT US TO THEN THIS, THE SET OF, UM, ADDITIONAL PRIORITIES THAT WE WORKED THROUGH. 
          AND AGAIN, WE HAD THAT, UM, THOSE, THOSE, UM, WORKSHOPS WITH COUNCIL TO TALK THROUGH, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL PRIORITY AMENDMENTS. 
          THESE TOPICS WILL BE COVERED TODAY. 
          THEY INCLUDE, UM, A DENSITY BONUS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT WILL ASSIST WITH THE ENTITLEMENT FOR THE NORTH POINT PROJECT, SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND COMMERCIAL MASS AND SCALE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, ADAPTIVE REUSE OF EXISTING HOTELS AND MOTELS, MAJOR SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN, REVIEW PROCESS, TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS PLAN, OPEN SPACE TREE PROTECTION, SIGN REGULATIONS, AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT STANDARDS FOR ALL TEXT AMENDMENTS. 
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THE CODE PROVIDES REVIEW STANDARDS. 
          SO, UM, THERE IS IN OUR, UH, APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS, UM, AND WITHIN, WITHIN THE CODE, IT IDENTIFIES THAT THERE ARE CRITERIA THAT MAY BE REVIEWED. 
          UM, SO THE LANGUAGE SAYS THAT WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS DETERMINING WHETHER TO RECOMMEND TOWN COUNCIL TO ADOPT OR DENY PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY WEIGH THE RELEVANCE AND CONSIDER WHETHER TO AND THE EXTENT OF WHICH THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT MEETS THESE CRITERIA A THROUGH F. 
          SO WHAT WE WILL DO IN THE NEXT STAFF REPORT THAT YOU SEE FOR PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL ADD ADDITIONAL, UM, INFORMATION AND DEPTH IN THE STAFF REPORTS THAT'S PREPARED THAT WILL ANSWER THESE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR YOU, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          UM, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH THAT TEXT AMENDMENTS ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT IT'S REQUIRED BY THE CHANGING CONDITIONS OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IT ADDRESSES A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED. 
          IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS IN THIS ORDINANCE, OR WOULD IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY AMONG USES, UM, AND THAT IT ALSO WOULD RESULT IN A LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND WOULD NOT RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL PROCESS THAT THESE AMENDMENTS WILL GO THROUGH PRIOR TO COMING, UM, TO YOU FOR PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UM, WE WILL BE PRESENTING THESE AMENDMENTS ON, UH, FEBRUARY 3RD TO THE GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE. 
          UM, THE GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE IS A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WE WILL BE REVIEWING ALL OF THESE, UM, AMENDMENTS WITH THAT BODY FOR THEIR REVIEW PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UM, WE WILL LET YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY REVIEW COMMENTS THAT ARE SUBSTANTIVE, UM, WHEN WE BRING THIS TO YOU IN, UH, FEBRUARY 19TH FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PUBLIC HEARING ON, UH, FEBRUARY 19TH, ASSUMING ALL OF THESE MOVE FORWARD, UM, THESE WILL GO FORWARD IN A BATCH SIMILAR TO THIS TWO TOWN COUNCIL FOR TWO READINGS. 
          UM, THOSE TWO READINGS, UM, WILL HAPPEN, UM, AFTER, UH, WE'LL BE SCHEDULED SOMETIME, UM, IN MARCH OR APRIL FOLLOWING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SO THAT'S THE, UM, INTENT TODAY. 
          AGAIN, IT IS INTRODUCTION. 
          UM, AS YOU RECALL PREVIOUSLY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION USED TO HAVE IN LMO COMMITTEE WHEN WE ELIMINATED THAT COMMITTEE AND COMMITTEES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE INDICATED TO ALL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WE WOULD BRING FORWARD AMENDMENTS FOR INTRODUCTION PRIOR TO SCHEDULING THEM FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SO THAT IS THE, THIS IS LIKE A WORKING SESSION TO INTRODUCE THESE TO YOU, AND AGAIN, WE WANNA SEE SOME FEEDBACK AND UNDERSTAND INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED FROM US TO MAKE A DECISION. 
          SO I AM PLANNING ON GOING THROUGH THIS OVERVIEW. 
          IT IS BASED ON THE PACKAGE, THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN, UM, IN THE PACKET. 
          IT IS A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF EACH OF THESE 10 AMENDMENT SETS. 
          UM, I WAS NOT PLANNING ON DIVING INTO THE DRAFTED CODE. 
          UM, IT IS THERE FOR YOU AS A RESOURCE. 
          UM, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE CODE AS DRAFTED, FEEL FREE TO BRING THAT UP. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE WILL ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC CODE LANGUAGE AND THE CODE, UM, IN THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT FOLLOWS. 
          BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING SUBSTANTIVE THAT WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR, OR THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT IS NOT CLEAR, PLEASE DO BRING THAT UP, UM, NOW OR LEADING UP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, AND WE WILL WORK TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          SO, UM, THE, THE FIRST ITEM, THE FIRST PIECE OF PRIORITY CODE IS, UM, A WORKFORCE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS TEXT AMENDMENT. 
          UM, AND, AND THIS IS, UM, THE IMPETUS FOR THIS IS THE, UM, NORTH POINT PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP SITE AND, UM, THE ENTITLEMENT, UM, REQUIREMENT THAT THE TOWN PER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UM, WORKS TO ENTITLE THAT PROPERTY. 
          UM, WE HAD REVIEWED, UM, AT A WORKSHOP SOME OPTIONS FOR THAT. 
          AND, UM, THE, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS PATH WAS, UM, WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS, UM, AS THE PATH TO TAKE. 
          UM, THE, THE SITE ITSELF, UM, THAT, UM, THAT THE NORTH POINT PROJECT IS ON IS, UM, APPROXIMATELY 11 ACRES. 
          IT'S LOCATED ON WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY NEAR THE CROSS ISLAND, UM, INTERCHANGE, UM, LOCATED NEAR KEY COMMUNITY AMENITIES. 
          UM, IT IS ENVISIONED AS AN ENERGY EFFICIENT, SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH, UM, DEVELOPMENT OF A RANGE OF 150 TO 170 UNITS, UM, WITH A MIX OF ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS. 
          UM, WORKFORCE AFFORD AFFORDABILITY IS CENTRAL TO THAT PROJECT WITH, UM, AN AREA MEDIAN INCOME RANGE BETWEEN 60 AND 150% OF, UM, OF BUFORT COUNTY. 
          THERE WILL BE AFFORDABILITY COVENANTS, UM, AS 
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WELL THAT WILL BE PART OF THAT PROJECT. 
          HOWEVER, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS NOT THE PROJECT ITSELF, BUT IT IS THE TEXT AMENDMENT, UM, THAT WILL ENABLE, UH, THAT PROJECT. 
          UM, THERE WILL BE A, UM, ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, UM, PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL BE BEFORE YOU IN FEBRUARY AS WELL. 
          AND THAT WILL BE, UM, TO PROPOSE A REZONING OF THAT SITE. 
          IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PARKS AND RECREATION TO R 12. 
          THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM TO ADD RM 12 AS AN ELIGIBLE DISTRICT FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM. 
          UM, THERE ARE SOME CRITERIA FOR THAT. 
          SO THE RM 12 PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE DENSITY BONUS HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST A FIVE ACRE MINIMUM PARCEL SIZE. 
          UM, THERE ARE SOME, UH, RESTRICTIONS THAT, UM, THERE BE NO GROUP LIVING USES, UM, THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM SEPARATION FROM THE AIRPORT THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON A MAJOR ARTERIAL ROAD, UM, THAT IT PROHIBITS, UM, THE DENSITY BONUS OPTION WITHIN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. 
          IT REQUIRES, UM, OR IT ALLOWS UP TO A 25% DENSITY BONUS UP ALLOWING UP TO 15 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IF AT LEAST 50% OF ALL UNITS QUALIFY AS WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          IT ALSO, UM, WOULD INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE FROM 35% TO 45% IF AT LEAST 50% OF ALL UNITS QUALIFY AS WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS. 
          MR. SIEBEL, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO STOP AND FOR QUESTIONS AFTER EACH TEXT AMENDMENT OR JUST PLUG THROUGH THE, BUT LET'S, YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LET'S DO THAT. 
          IS ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM? AND AGAIN, WE'LL BE STUDYING THIS BETWEEN NOW AND FEBRUARY 19TH AND HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO POSE QUESTIONS, BUT ANYTHING OCCURRED TO YOU RIGHT NOW? COMMISSIONER LOBA, YOU TURN YOUR, YOU TURN YOUR MIC OFF. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          I JUST HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION. 
          AS IT RELATES TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS, UM, IN CHANGING THESE DESIGNATIONS, DOES ANY OF THIS BECOME QUALIFIED OR ABLE TO BE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, OR DOES THAT GET BLOCKED IN QUALIFYING FOR, UH, THE HIGHER DENSITY? IS THAT ONE OF THE CRITERIA THAT IT CAN'T BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL? I BELIEVE IT IS, BUT I WILL VERIFY THAT, UM, AND GET BACK TO YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER WHALEY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HI, MISSY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS QUITE, QUITE THE, UH, TO HERE. 
          UM, TWO QUESTIONS ON, UH, CHANGE IS SEVEN AND EIGHT. 
          I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER TODAY. 
          I'M JUST KIND OF RAISING THE ISSUE, I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. 
          UM, ON EIGHT, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER FROM 35 TO 75%, IT IS THIS 45 TO 45%. 
          OH MY GOD, WHAT DID I SAY? UM, SO THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT IS IS, IS THIS ALL, WHERE IS RM 12? I MEAN, IS THIS JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING CONTEMPLATED AT NORTH POINT? NO, NO, NO. 
          SO IT IS FOR ANY ARM 12 PROPERTY THAT MEETS THESE CRITERIA. 
          SO A MINIMUM FIVE ACRE, UH, PARCEL SIZE, AND IT HAS TO BE ON A MAJOR ARTERIAL. 
          UM, AND, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT, WE'LL HAVE SOME MAPPING AND ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THERE ARE THREE PROPERTIES ON THE ISLAND THAT MEET THAT CRITERIA, AND ONE OF THEM IS THE NORTH POINT SITE. 
          OKAY. 
          WHEN WE, UM, TALK ABOUT TEXT AMENDMENTS AND SORT OF THINGS THAT CAN CHANGE THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE ISLAND, IT, I, I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER. 
          I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT ITEM EIGHT, ABOUT ALLOWING IMPERVIOUS COVER FROM 35 TO 45%. 
          AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT NORTH POINT, UM, AND I'M UP THERE FAIRLY OFTEN DROPPING THINGS OFF IT, UM, IT FLOODS IT. 
          I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE FLOODING PROBLEMS THERE. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH WE WON'T KNOW THE DESIGN OF NORTH POINT AND WE WON'T KNOW HOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE, UM, ENGINEERED TO OFFSET THAT, IN GENERAL, GETTING UP TO 45% IMPERVIOUS ON ANY PROPERTY ON THIS ISLAND IS HARD FOR ME TO FATHOM. 
          SO TO, TO WHATEVER EXTENT YOU AND THE STAFF CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S NOT A LONG-TERM RISK TO THE ISLAND FROM A SUSTAINABILITY AND A, UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT FLOODING IN THAT LAST MISSION. 
          SO IT REALLY, I REALLY DO HAVE, HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
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WE WILL HAVE AN ANALYSIS THEN OF, UH, THE ALLOWABLE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS IN THE VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS ACROSS THE ISLAND. 
          AND ALSO, UM, CAN ADDRESS THAT MORE SPECIFICALLY. 
          I'LL ALSO, UM, MR. LOBO VERIFY THAT SHORT TERM RENTAL COMMENT, YOUR COMMISSIONER MEER HAS A QUESTION I'M MISSING. 
          UM, I, I'M ASSUMING YOU WANT THE ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS, UH, PERCENTAGE BECAUSE OF, WELL, IF IT'S SHORT, IF IT'S FOR, UM, WORKFORCE HOUSING, THERE'S PROBABLY A FEW MORE VEHICLES, BUT, OR IS THERE ANOTHER REASONING WHY YOU WANTED THE INCREASE ON THE IMPERVIOUS? WELL, IT'S A DENSITY BONUS. 
          UM, IT'S ONLY IF, UM, THE 50% OF ALL UNITS QUALIFY AS WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          SO IT'S PART OF THAT DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM. 
          SOME OF THAT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ALLOW THAT ADDITIONAL DENSITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT FORM REQUIREMENTS, IN THIS CASE, THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE. 
          UM, THERE'S A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT THAT'S PLANNED TO ALLOW FOR THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL DENSITY THAT'S ALLOWED THROUGH THIS POTENTIAL DENSITY BONUS. 
          OKAY. 
          LOOKS LIKE WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO SINGLE FAMILY HOME MASS AND SCALE . 
          SO, UM, WE ALSO, UM, HAVE HEARD FROM, UM, THE COMMUNITY, THE PLANNING, PAST PLANNING COMMISSIONS, UM, OUR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD THAT, UM, THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH, UM, BOTH OUR SINGLE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL MASS AND SCALE AND SOME OF THE NEWER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING IN ON THE ISLAND. 
          UM, AND THAT THEY MAY BE MORE OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE, UM, BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT SURROUND THEM. 
          SO, UM, PART OF, UH, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDRESSING WITHIN THE CURRENT PRIORITY SET, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS A LIMITED, UM, SOLUTION HERE AND WE WILL ADDRESS THIS IN, IN, IN MORE DETAIL IN THE FULL CODE OVERHAUL. 
          BUT IT IS TO PROPOSE, UM, A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT TO HOW WE MEASURE BUILDING HEIGHT, UM, AND THEN TO RESTRICT, UM, SOME OF THE EXISTING ALLOWABLE ENCROACHMENTS. 
          UM, SO CURRENTLY FOR RESIDENTIAL, UM, WE MEASURE, UM, SO FOR A COMMERCIAL BUILDING WE MEASURE FROM 11 FEET FOR A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, WE MEASURE FROM 13 FEET ABOVE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION AND THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO INSTEAD MEASURE FROM PRE-DEVELOPMENT GRADE MEASURING FROM THE GROUND LEVEL. 
          UM, INSTEAD OF THAT BASE FLOOD ELEVATION, THAT BASE FLOOD ELEVATION COULD BE ABOVE GRADE. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU'RE MEASURING YOUR BUILDING HEIGHT, WHETHER THAT'S 35 FEET OR 45, IF 35 OR 45 DOESN'T HAPPEN AT THE GROUND, THEN IT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE OVERALL HEIGHT OR THAT MASS OF, OF, UH, WHAT YOU WOULD EXPERIENCE FROM THE GROUND. 
          UM, THE SECOND ITEM IS THAT WE HAVE, UM, SETBACK ENCROACHMENTS THAT ARE ALLOWED FOR, FOR ALL STRUCTURES, RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, WITH A VARIETY OF, UM, ENCROACHMENT ALLOWANCES. 
          UM, AND WHEN, AND WHAT IS PROPOSED IS THAT THERE WOULD BE RESTRICTIONS OF ANY ENCROACHMENT ALLOWANCE, UM, FROM WITHIN 10 FEET FROM A PROPERTY LINE. 
          QUESTIONS OF MISSY ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM AT THIS POINT? HEY, LET'S MOVE ON TO SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS PLEASE. 
          SO, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, CONCERNS ARISING FROM RECENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT AGAIN, DO NOT ALIGN WITH SOME OF THE DESIRED COMMUNITY STANDARDS. 
          UM, THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES SUCH AS TREE CLEARING, UM, OVERLY LINEAR STREET STRUCTURES, UM, ARCHITECTURAL MONOTONY, UM, INADEQUATE OPEN SPACE AND CONNECTIVITY, UM, THAT HAVE LED TO SOME CONCERN, UH, THAT OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS ARE NOT PROVIDING THE DESIRED OUTCOMES AND MEETING SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY VALUES. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT ARE SCATTERED THROUGH MULTIPLE SECTIONS OF OUR CODE. 
          UM, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO, IN THE FULL CODE OVERHAUL HAVE, UM, SOME, A MORE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, REVIEW AND ANALYSIS AND BRING OUR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS MORE INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THAT VISION AND IN LINE WITH THOSE COMMUNITY STANDARDS. 
          UH, BUT FOR THE PRIORITY AMENDMENT, WE ARE FOCUSING ON SOME CONNECTIVITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE, UM, RIGHT NOW. 
          SO, UM, CURRENTLY THE CODE DOES NOT MANDATE THAT SIDEWALKS OR PATHWAYS OR CONNECTIONS TO OUR EXISTING, UM, TRANSPORTATION AND, UM, PATHWAY NETWORKS ARE, ARE MADE. 
          IT IS, UM, A RECOMMENDATION. 
          UM, AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THE PRIORITY SET IS A REQUIREMENT THAT PATHWAY AND SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS TO OPEN SPACE AMENITIES AND TOWN PATHWAY SYSTEMS ARE PART OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT IT REQUIRES PATHWAYS AND SIDEWALKS ON ONE OR MORE BOTH 
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SIDES OF THE STREET DEPENDING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT. 
          UM, AND ALSO THAT THERE ARE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR PATHWAYS AND SIDEWALKS. 
          QUESTION ON THIS PARTICULAR PRIORITY AMENDMENT PROPOSAL AT THIS POINT, NO, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE ADAPTIVE REUSE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ADAPTIVE REUSE OF EXISTING HOTELS AND MOTELS. 
          UM, AS COMMUNITIES EVOLVE, THERE'S BEEN A NEED, UM, A GROWING NEED TO ADDRESS THE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF HOTEL PROPERTIES, UM, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF CHANGING MARKET CONDITIONS AS WELL AS HOUSING DEMANDS, UM, ON THE ISLAND. 
          UM, WHILE OUR CURRENT CODE DOES ALLOW, UM, COMMERCIAL CONVERSION, INCLUDING HOTELS, UM, CAN BE CONVERTED THROUGH OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING COMMERCIAL CONVERSION PROGRAM, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY, UM, WORKFORCE HOUSING COMMERCIAL CONVERSIONS TO DATE, UM, OF HOTEL PROPERTIES. 
          SO TO ADDRESS THAT, WE ARE PROPOSING SOME CHANGES TO THE CODE TO ESTABLISH, UM, SOME REGULATIONS THAT ALLOW OR BETTER ALLOW FOR, UM, THAT POTENTIAL CONVERSION. 
          UM, AND THAT, UM, IF WE ARE TO SEE A CONVERSION THAT THEY ALIGN WITH SOME OF OUR BROADER GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR SUSTAINABLE GROWTH AND NEEDING COMMUNITY CHARACTER, QUALITY OF LIFE AND DEVELOPMENT THAT MEETS, UM, OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING NEEDS. 
          SO, UM, THE AMENDMENT, UM, THAT WAS PROPOSED IS FOCUSED ON HIGH QUALITY STANDARDS FOR CONVERSIONS, UM, INCLUDING THAT THERE'S FUNCTIONAL KITCHEN FACILITIES, UM, THAT THE PROPERTY IS WELL KEPT, UM, THAT THERE ARE COMMUNAL SPACES THAT FOSTER INTERACTION AND SERVE PRACTICAL PURPOSE AND ENHANCE THE PROPERTY'S UTILITY. 
          UM, AND THAT THESE, UM, ARE INTENDED TO ALIGN THE ADAPTIVE REUSE, UM, WITH PROPERTIES THAT MAINTAIN LIVABILITY COMPONENTS. 
          SO, UM, THE TEXT AMENDMENT PROPOSES THE CREATION OF A HOTEL MOTEL ADAPTIVE REUSE PROGRAM THAT WOULD ALLOW, UM, HOTEL MOTEL CONVERSIONS INTO MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING UNITS THAT IS APPLICABLE TO EXISTING HOTELS AND MOTELS. 
          AT THE TIME OF, UH, THIS ORDINANCE IS ADOPTION, IT DOES ESTABLISH CERTAIN MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT IT CANNOT BE ESTABLISHED AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, THAT IT MUST QUALIFY AS WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          IT ESTABLISHES MINIMUM DWELLING SIZES, MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR HABITABLE DWELLINGS MUST BE MET, SUCH AS MINIMUM, UH, THAT THERE MUST BE A KITCHEN BATH LIVING IN STORAGE FACILITIES PARK MINIMUM PARKING STANDARDS MUST BE MET. 
          AND ALSO THAT THERE IS DOCUMENTATION THAT THE UNITS ARE WORKFORCE HOUSING AND IT DOES ALLOW UP TO A ONE-TO-ONE HOTEL MOTEL ROOM TO MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNIT CONVERSION. 
          IF THERE ARE SOME CRITERIA THAT ARE MET THAT INCLUDE THAT 6% OF THE BUILDINGS INTERIOR IS COMMUNAL SPACE AND 10% OF THE EXTERIOR IS COMMON OPEN SPACE. 
          UM, THE DRAFTED CODE ALSO ESTABLISHES MINIMUM UNIT SIZES, UM, FOR MICRO EFFICIENCY STUDIOS ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOM DWELLINGS THAT THE TOWNS THAT WORK AT ON THIS PRIORITY AMENDMENT THAT WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THIS MEETING. 
          BUT ANY QUESTIONS OF MISSY ON THIS RIGHT NOW? COMMISSIONER WHALEY. 
          THANKS MISSY. 
          ON, UH, SUMMARY OF PRO CHANGES, WHEN YOU USE THE WORD IN EXISTENCE, DOES THAT MEAN IT'S CURRENTLY OPERATINGS HOTEL OR THE SPACE IS, UM, UH, ALREADY IN THE PAST OPERATING HOTEL AND IT'S NOT THERE TODAY? OTHER THAT IT IS, IT HAS TO BE CURRENTLY A HOTEL, UM, OPERATING AS A HOTEL. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ACCEPTING GUESTS TODAY, NOT JUST IT'S A HOTEL, BUT THEY HAVEN'T USED IT THAT WAY FOR A WHILE, FOR WHATEVER REASON. 
          UM, AN EXISTING, TO CLARIFY THE EXISTING TEXT, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE LANGUAGE WAS THAT IT WOULD APPLY NOT JUST FOR LIKE HOTELS ARE ALLOWED AND IT'S NOT YET A HOTEL, BUT IT EITHER HAS BEEN, IT, IT MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW, OCCUPIED AS A HOTEL, BUT IT WAS BUILT AND HAS A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR A HOTEL. 
          SO IT IS A HOTEL. 
          SO THE, SO THE, SO IS IT CORRECT FOR ME TO SAY THAT IF IT HAD BEEN PERMITTED AS A HOTEL AND HAD A CERTIFICATE AS A HOTEL BUT EFFECTIVELY WASN'T OPERATING AS A HOTEL, IT WOULD STILL BE PERMITTED? I GUESS I'M NOT FOLLOWING WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS. 
          UM, THE INTENT HERE IS THAT IT APPLIES ONLY TO HOTELS AND MOTELS THAT EXIST TODAY THAT COULD BE CONVERTED. 
          UM, SO IS IT, IS YOUR QUESTION RELATED TO, IT'S ACTUALLY OPERATING, GETTING REVENUE AS A HOTEL TODAY, SO I COULD, I COULD HAVE A HOTEL BUILDING AND MAYBE ONLY HAVE A PROPERTY MANAGER STAYING THERE OR, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING A FEW PEOPLE TO STAY THERE, BUT IT'S NOT AN ONGOING BUSINESS AS A HOTEL. 
          IT'S INTENDED THAT YOUR SCENARIO YOU JUST DESCRIBED IT IS A HOTEL BUILDING COULD BE, COULD UTILIZE THIS AMENDMENT BUT NOT CURRENTLY 
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OPERATING AS A HOTEL TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR. 
          'CAUSE AN IN EXISTENCE IS KIND OF LIKE A YEAH, IT'S IN EXISTENCE. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S A FOOTPRINT THERE AND THERE'S A BUILDING THAT ONCE OPERATED AS A HOTEL, BUT NOW IT JUST HAS PROPERTY MANAGERS OR OTHER PEOPLE. 
          WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE ACTUAL DRAFTED CODE LANGUAGE IS SPECIFIC ENOUGH ON THE APPLICABILITY FOR EXISTENCE. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          AND IT, AND I BELIEVE IT HAS DIFFERENT LANGUAGE IN THE DRAFTED CODE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS ON THE SUMMARY OF POST CHANGE IN NUMBER FOUR, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ONE-TO-ONE HOTEL MOTEL CONVERSION, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL FOOTPRINTS THAT EXIST IN A BUILDING NOW, OR THE TOTAL SQUARE FEET OF HOTEL TO MOTEL SPACE? NO, IT IS REFERRING TO, UH, ONE-TO-ONE LIKE A HOTEL ROOM, A ROOM WHICH IS ONE ROOM BECOMES ONE DWELLING UNIT, BUT IT STILL HAS TO MEET THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF MINIMUM SIZE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          IT HAS TO MEET, IT HAS TO MEET THE MINIMUM SIZES, IT HAS TO HAVE THIS INTERIOR COMMUNAL SPACE AND EXTERIOR COMMON OPEN SPACE AND ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED PLUS THESE TWO ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY, I GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER LER. 
          I SEE JUST ONE QUESTION ON TWO B WHEN IT SAYS MUST QUALIFY AS WORKFORCE HOUSING, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE OF THE SAY RE RENOVATED HOTEL, UM, COULD HALF OF THE HOTEL BE RENOVATED AND THAT BE WORKFORCE HOUSING? IS THERE A PERCENTAGE IN THAT LANGUAGE? UM, THERE IS. 
          AND UM, I BELIEVE IT SAYS, AND TREY HELP ME, I BELIEVE IT SAYS LEFT ALL UNITS. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? HE LEFT, HE'S GONNA, OH, UM, I CAN GET BACK TO YOU. 
          UM, BUT I BELIEVE THE LANGUAGE SAYS ALL UNITS AND SO IF IT'S CONVERTED, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, WE'VE GOT TWO QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER BLA. 
          FIRST, MISSY, I, I THOUGHT IN PREPARING FOR THE MEETING, I CAN'T FIND IT RIGHT FOR ME TODAY, BUT THAT THIS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE, UH, TIMESHARE UNITS. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? OR, OR DO YOU KNOW? NO, SIR. 
          UM, THIS IS JUST FOR HOTEL MOTELS AND THIS DOES NOT, UM, IT IS NOT A PROGRAM THAT WOULD CONVERT EXISTING TIMESHARES. 
          COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL. 
          UM, SEE THIS SAYS NEW BOWLING SIZE MUST BE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT SIZE IS OR ARE YOU GONNA HAVE THIS? YES, IT IS IN THE DRAFTED CODE THAT IS ACTUALLY ON PAGE 67 OF 1 58 IN THE PACKET. 
          UM, IT ANTICIPATES THAT, AND I COULD SCROLL TO IT IF YOU WANT ME TO, BUT MICRO EFFICIENCIES WOULD BE 210 SQUARE FEET STUDIOS 301 BEDROOM, 420 SQUARE FEET, TWO BEDROOM, UH, 562 SQUARE FEET AND THREE BEDROOM 698. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE IT IS, MISSY, ON PAGE 66. 
          UM, ITEM B TWO OR BIIF THAT ONLY SAYS TIMESHARE UNITS. 
          I'M, I'M JUST NOT CLEAR IF IT'S INCLUDED OR NOT. 
          UM, ALSO ANOTHER, WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION? I'M SORRY, I WASN'T, I WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW ALONG. 
          I THINK THIS IS WHAT I READ EARLIER NOW I FOUND IT, UM, WHETHER OR NOT TIMESHARE UNITS ARE INCLUDED IN WHAT WE'RE WE'RE DISCUSSING. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE ON PAGE 66 IT IS. 
          OKAY, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. 
          I'LL CLARIFY THAT. 
          YEAH, MISSY HAVE A QUESTION HERE TOO. 
          SURE. 
          WILL THIS QUALIFY FOR MEMORY CARE FACILITIES? MEMORY CARE FACILITIES? YEAH, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ONE ON THE ISLAND HAS BEEN SOLD AND THEY'RE RENTING IT OUT FOR LONG-TERM RENTALS NOW. 
          NO, SO THIS IS FOR EXISTING HOTELS AND MOTELS. 
          IF IT WAS A MEMORY CARE FACILITY, WE ALREADY HAVE A WORKFORCE HOUSING COMMERCIAL CONVERSION PROGRAM THAT IS ADOPTED. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT ALSO HAS, UM, CRITERIA AND CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND MINIMUM UNIT SIZES THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZES THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THIS HOTEL MOTEL ADAPTIVE REUSE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HAVE A COMPARISON OF OUR EXISTING WORKFORCE HOUSING COMMERCIAL CONVERSION TO THIS HOTEL MOTEL COMMERCIAL CONVERSION, WE CAN PUT THAT IN AND I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SOME SENSE. 
          SO WE CAN ADD THAT, UH, TO OUR STAFF REPORT A COMPARISON BETWEEN THOSE TWO COMMERCIAL CONVERSION PROGRAMS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER CORDES. 
          SEE, DOES, DOES ANYTHING IN THE CHANGE, UH, 
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TALK TO OWNERSHIP STRUCTURE IE CONIZATION OR IS THIS ALWAYS TO BE A COMMERCIAL CONVERSION? IE COULD IN THE FUTURE? THESE BE TURNED INTO CONDOS, UM, THE WORKFORCE, SO THIS REFERS YOU BACK TO THE EXISTING WORKFORCE HOUSING CONVERSION PROGRAM, AND THERE'S A 30 YEAR TERM TO THAT. 
          SO, UM, AFTER 30 YEARS THEN THE AFFORDABILITY COMPONENTS, UM, WITH SUNSET, SIMILAR TO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, TERMS AND, AND CRITERIA THAT EXIST. 
          THERE'S AREA MEDIA AND INCOME REQUIREMENTS AS WELL THAT ARE IN OUR EXISTING WORKFORCE HOUSING, UH, PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS AND AS, SO IT'S A 30 YEAR PERIOD BEFORE THEY COULD MAKE THAT CHANGE. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONERS, ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON TO MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS? YES. 
          OKAY, WE'RE READY. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          SO THIS IS A PROCEDURAL CHANGE, MAJOR SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW PROCESS. 
          UM, WE HAVE BEEN BRINGING MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS AND MAJOR, UM, DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT IT IS NOT YET CODIFIED THAT THAT PROCESS, UM, IS IN OUR LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AS A REQUIREMENT. 
          SO WHAT THIS DOES IS THE PRACTICE OF BRINGING MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS AND MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, WILL BE IN OUR CODE. 
          UM, IT WILL REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, FOR REVIEW OF THOSE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          UM, AND SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE PROPOSED CHANGES, BUT MUCH OF THIS, UM, UH, WE ARE ALREADY PRACTICING. 
          WHAT THIS WOULD ADD IN IS, UM, A, THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS AND MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEWS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD MAKE AN A RECOMMENDATION TO THE LMO OFFICIAL. 
          IT WOULD REQUIRE ADVANCED MAILING. 
          UM, SO THAT FIRST CLASS MAILED ADVANCED, UM, PUBLIC NOTICE WOULD GO OUT TO ALL OWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATIONS WITHIN 500 FEET. 
          IT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS FOR MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS AND MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEWS. 
          RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, AND NOT MANDATORY. 
          THIS WOULD MAKE THEM MANDATORY. 
          IT ALSO WOULD ALLOW THE LMO OFFICIAL TO ADVANCE A MINOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IF IT WAS ADJACENT TO OR ACROSS THE STREET FROM A RESIDENTIAL. 
          USE. 
          QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC OF MISSY AT THIS POINT? UH, UH, YES. 
          COMMISSIONER WHALEY ON, UM, ITEM TWO, IS THE 500 FEET COMMON STANDARD IN SOUTH CAROLINA. 
          UM, IT IS NOT, IT ACTUALLY IS A GREATER RADIUS REQUIREMENT THAN ANY OF OTHER OF OUR OTHER PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS OR STANDARDS. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW FOR ALL OTHER PUBLIC NOTICE, IT'S 350 FEET. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          UM, TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS. 
          UM, SO THE OBJECTIVE HERE WAS TO IMPROVE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE CURRENT TRAFFIC TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS PLAN REQUIREMENTS, AND THAT NEW DEVELOPMENTS, UM, HAVE A MEANINGFUL AND POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, TRANSPORTATION STUDIES ARE DESIGNED TO ASSESS HOW NEW PROJECTS AFFECT TRAFFIC AND TO PROVIDE MITIGATION FOR, FOR THEM. 
          UM, THE PROPOSED CHANGES, UM, ARE ONE, TO CHANGE THE NAME FROM A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS TO A TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND THAT WOULD ALSO ADD SOME STANDARDS INTO ACCOUNT FOR MULTIMODAL TRIPS, NOT JUST VEHICULAR TRIPS. 
          IT REDUCES THE THRESHOLD FOR WHICH A DEVELOPER NEEDS TO MEET TO TRIGGER THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT PROCESS. 
          SO RIGHT NOW IT'S 100 PEAK HOUR TRIPS, IT WOULD LOWER THAT THRESHOLD. 
          SO POTENTIALLY MORE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD HAVE TO, UM, DO A TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS PLAN. 
          SO IT INCLUDES, AGAIN, THAT MULTIMODAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE, THE ANALYSIS. 
          UM, IT ALSO ADDS MORE MITIGATION OPTIONS, UM, THAT THAT COULD BE, UM, PUT INTO PLACE, UM, TO MITIGATE, UM, IMPACTS. 
          UM, IT ALSO CHANGES THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT FROM THE LMO OFFICIAL TO THE TOWN ENGINEER, UM, AS THIS IS TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC RELATED. 
          UM, IT ALSO ADDS UNSIGNED INTERSECTION LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS AND INCLUDES MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS FOR UNSIGNED INTERSECTIONS. 
          AND IT REMOVES, UM, DISCOUNTING OF IMPACTS DUE TO BACKGROUND TRAFFIC. 
          AND CURRENTLY TODAY YOU CAN HAVE A REDUCTION, UM, IN THAT THRESHOLD. 
          UM, IF THERE IS A LOT OF EXISTING BACKGROUND TRAFFIC, IT REMOVES THAT, UM, FROM HOW YOU, UM, EVALUATE OR, OR SET THE STANDARDS HERE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSION QUESTIONS ON THE TRANSPORTATION SEGMENT. 
          COMMISSIONER HANS, WHO'S THE LMO OFFICIAL FOR THE TOWN? I AM THE LMO OFFICIAL . 
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OKAY. 
          WE READY TO MOVE ON TO COMMON SPACE? OKAY. 
          YOU DON'T WANNA KNOW WHO THE TOWN ENGINEER IS? NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          YOU ARE. 
          NO, IT IS NOT ME. 
          UM, COMMON OPEN SPACE. 
          UM, SO UPDATES TO SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS IN OPEN SPACE ARE PROPOSED AND WITH THE, UM, INTENDED OUTCOME TO BETTER PRESERVE THE ISLAND'S CHARACTER AND ENSURE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENTS ALIGN WITH COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS. 
          UM, CURRENTLY OUR REGULATIONS, UM, ALLOW FOR OPEN SPACES THAT ARE POORLY PLANNED AND UNDERUTILIZED, UM, AND ARE NOT USABLE AS OPEN SPACE, UM, FOR THE RESIDENTS OF, OF THOSE SUBDIVISIONS. 
          UM, SUBDIVISIONS CURRENTLY ALLOW, UM, POCKETS OF OPEN SPACE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT TO ACCUMULATE TO THE REQUIRED PERCENTAGE, UM, BUT THEY'RE NOT USABLE, UM, TO THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, SO SOME OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO ADDRESS THAT ARE TO, UM, UPDATE THE TERM OPEN SPACE TO COMMON OPEN SPACE. 
          UM, REMOVES, UH, DETENTION FACILITIES AND NATURAL WATER BODIES FROM THE DEFINITION, UM, BUT ALSO WOULD ALLOW DOCKS AND BOARDWALKS. 
          SO RIGHT NOW YOUR STORMWATER DETENTION FACILITY THAT'S REQUIRED CAN ALSO BE OPEN SPACE, BUT IT'S NOT USABLE OR FUNCTIONAL. 
          HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE A DOCK OR BOARDWALK IN THAT, UM, IN THAT STORM WATER IN YOUR NATURAL WATER BODY, THAT DOCKER BOARDWALK CAN BE PART OF THAT CALCULATION THAT MEETS COMMON OPEN SPACE. 
          SO IT REALLY IS MEANT TO PROVIDE THAT COMMON UTILITY OF THESE OPEN SPACES. 
          IT REMOVES ADJACENT STREET AND USE BUFFER CREDITS FROM THOSE OPEN SPACE CALCULATIONS. 
          REMOVES THAT CALCULATION OF REMNANT OPEN SPACE THAT PROVIDES NO VALUE. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT FRONT SITE TRIANGLE UP BY THE ROADWAY CAN BE COUNTED AS AS OPEN SPACE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT WHERE YOU WOULD WALK YOUR DOG, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          UM, THE CHANGES INCLUDE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS MINIMUM WIDTH CONNECTION TO EXISTING SPACE AND, AND WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, AND REQUIRES THE OPEN SPACE TO BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL RESIDENTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND DOES NOT REQUIRE IT TO BE DEDICATED FOR GENERAL PUBLIC USE OF MISSY UNCOMMON OPEN SPACE AT THIS TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE READY TO ROLL TO TREE PROTECTION RISK, MISSY. 
          SURE. 
          UM, HILTON HEAD ISLAND, UM, HAS A VERY STRONG TREE REGULATIONS AND, UH, THE PRIORITY AMENDMENT IS LOOKING TO FURTHER STRENGTHEN THOSE TREE PROTECTIONS DURING DEVELOPMENT AND TO ENSURE THAT NEW PROJECTS ALIGN WITH OUR COMMUNITY'S VALUES. 
          UM, THESE ARE AIMED AT IMPROVING THE PRESERVATION OF TREES, UM, AND, UM, AND WE WILL HAVE SOME MORE SUBSTANTIAL, UM, CHANGES TO OUR NATURAL RESOURCE REGULATIONS IN THE FULL CODE OVERHAUL. 
          UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT CHANGING IN THE PRIORITY SET IS INCREASING PROTECTION OF TWO TYPES OF OAKS, LIVE OAKS AND LAUREL OAKS. 
          UM, WE WOULD REDUCE THE DIAMETER AT BREAST HEIGHT FOR WHICH THEY ARE, UM, PROTECTED. 
          UM, WE WOULD ALSO UPDATE THE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS BY INCREASING THE PLANT BACK. 
          SO BIGGER TREES FOR MITIGATION WILL HAVE TO BE PLANTED BACK. 
          UM, THE AMENDMENT PROPOSES UPDATING THE LIST OF NATIVE PLANTS AND, UM, REMOVES THE EXCEPTION OF SPECIMEN TREES ON SINGLE FAMILY LOTS OUTSIDE OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO REMOVE THE UNNECESSARY REMOVAL OF SPECIMEN TREES. 
          PROTECT QUESTIONS, ANYBODY AT THIS POINT? OKAY. 
          WE YES. 
          NO. 
          OR OAKS, THAT'S NOT, UH, THE SAME AS WATER OAKS, RIGHT? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          NO. 
          SO IN THE AMENDMENT SET, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE PROTECTED TREE TABLE AND YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE CURRENT PROTECTED TREES ON THERE. 
          AND OF ALL THE PROTECTED TREES, THERE'S ONLY CHANGES PROPOSED TO THE TWO TREE TYPES, THE LIVE OAKS AND LO OAKS. 
          UM, WE WILL REVIEW AND ASSESS ALL OF OUR, UM, TREE PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING, WE'RE EXPLORING A SIMPLIFIED SYSTEM FOR TREE PRESERVATION. 
          RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO CLASSES SIGNIFICANT IN SPECIMEN, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, CONSOLIDATING THAT. 
          YOU READY TO MOVE SIGN REGULATIONS? IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE, YES. 
          WE'RE COMING COASTING TO THE END HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          SIGN REGULATIONS. 
          UM, UH, SO THERE'S CASE LAW SUPREME COURT CASE THAT, UM, REQUIRES, UH, CONTENT NEUTRAL SIGN REGULATIONS. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENTS IS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT REED CASE. 
          UM, SO THE CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED ARE TO CLARIFY THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE REGULATIONS. 
          UM, DELETES THE CONTENT BASED MATERIAL WITHIN THE SIGN CODE REVISES AND ADJUST CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS, UM, THAT ARE MORE HOUSEKEEPING IN NATURE. 
          UM, CREATES 
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INTERIOR SITE SIGNS CATEGORY AND COMBINES SEVERAL TYPES OF EXEMPT SIGNS FOR SIMPLICITY. 
          UM, CREATES A GENERALIZED TEMPORARY YARD SIGN CATEGORY THAT COMBINES SEVERAL CONTENT-BASED SIGN TYPES, UM, AND REVISES AND CLARIFIES SOME ALLOWANCES IN LIKE THE AREA OF THE SIGN, THE NUMBER TIMEFRAME OF WHICH A SIGN CAN BE OUT, ET CETERA. 
          UM, IT INCLUDES THRESHOLDS FOR DRIVEWAY ACCESS POINT SIGNS AND INTERIOR SITE SIGNS TO QUALIFY FOR SIGN PERMITTING, UM, AND PROHIBITS SOME THREATENING AND EXPLICIT SIGNAGE QUESTIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE. 
          OKAY, LET'S GO TO THE LAST ONE. 
          CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT STANDARDS. 
          CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT STANDARDS, UM, IS, UH, PROPOSED AS WELL. 
          THERE WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION THAT THAT PROVIDES SOME IMPACTS, UM, THAT SOMETIMES EXTEND BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE SITE. 
          AND, UM, THERE ARE IMPACTS BOTH IN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS. 
          THERE ARE DISRUPTIONS THAT OCCUR WHEN CONSTRUCTION IS OCCURRING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZE THAT CONSTRUCTION PROVIDES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OUR TOWN, BUT ALSO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ACCOMMODATING, UM, THE NUISANCES THAT COME FROM CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY. 
          UM, SO SOME OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, UM, ARE TO REVISE THE CONSTRUCTION HOURS. 
          CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTION IS, UM, PERMITTED FROM 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM UH, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. 
          UM, SO THIS IS TO, UM, REDUCE THE CONSTRUCTION HOURS, UM, REQUIRE A PLAN THAT SHOWS WHERE THE REFUGE DISPOSAL IS TO GO WHERE THE SITE PARKING IS, UH, REQUIRE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN AND REQUIRE THE SECURING OF THEIR, OF THE SITE DURING A NAMED STORM EVENT. 
          UM, THERE IS A COMPLIMENTARY PIECE OF CODE THAT IS NOT PART OF THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE, AN AMENDMENT TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE, UM, THAT ALSO WILL BE INTRODUCED. 
          UM, THE NOISE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT WILL NOT COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          IT WILL GO STRAIGHT TO TOWN COUNCIL, BUT THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT COMPLEMENT THIS, THAT, UM, ADJUST THE NOISE ORDINANCE AS WELL, UM, TO BE IN ALIGN WITH THIS, UM, AMENDMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION HOURS. 
          SO IT WOULD, UH, RECIPROCATE IN THE NOISE ORDINANCE. 
          QUESTIONS ON THIS LAST ONE FOR MISSY AT THIS POINT, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADAPTABILITY AS WE MOVE TO THE AGENDA AROUND A LITTLE BIT. 
          I, I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE GONNA BE SEEING NEXT MONTH BEFORE WE GOT TO THE FINAL ITEM OF TODAY'S AGENDA. 
          SO, UH, WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UH, WE ARE NOW 
          [6.a. Public Hearing Request from Chris Breen of Blue Hour Housing for a text
amendment to Title 16 of the Municipal Code of the Town of Hilton Head
Island, the Land Management Ordinance, to amend Chapter 16-4, Use
Standards, to add a new Adaptive Re-Use Hotel/Motel Conversion Program as
16-4-106. ]
GONNA MOVE TO WHAT WAS ON YOUR AGENDA AS, UM, UH, AGENDA ITEM SIX A, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING REQUEST FROM CHRIS BREEN OF BLUE, OUR HOUSING FOR TEXT AMENDMENT TO TITLE 16 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF TOWN HILL, THAT ISLAND, UH, CONCERNING THE NEW ADAPTIVE REUSE HOTEL MOTEL CONVERSION, UH, PROGRAM. 
          SO, UH, I'M GONNA ASK FIRST FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE US, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, AND THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, A TIME WITH THE TOWN STAFF TO, UH, UH, GIVE US THAT, THAT PERSPECTIVE. 
          SO COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE? YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          I'M CHRIS BRIEN. 
          I'M HERE FROM BLUE HOUR HOUSING. 
          UM, JUST WANT TO CLARIFY HERE, THE TAX AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS SIMILAR BUT DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT THE TOWN HAS PROPOSED. 
          UM, WE LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR OWN TAX AMENDMENT HERE, UM, WHICH WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH STAFF FOR A LONG TIME ON THIS, BUT REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS MOVES FORWARD IN A WAY THAT WE THINK WILL ACTUALLY BRING THE HOUSING TO THE MARKET, UM, THE OBTAINABLE HOUSING TO THE MARKET, AS YOU KNOW, DEFINING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, PROCEED. 
          SO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE MAY BE SIMILAR, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO ASK 'EM AGAIN. 
          WE'RE HAPPY TO, UH, HAPPY TO, UH, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          SO COMMISSIONERS, YOU DO HAVE THAT AS IN PRINT PRINTED FORM IN YOUR PACKETS TODAY. 
          IF YOU COULD ALL IF YOU WANNA FOLLOW ALONG THAT WAY, GO AHEAD. 
          SO GIVEN THE, UH, SHORTAGE OF, UH, HOUSING, OBTAINABLE HOUSING ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND, UM, YOU KNOW, HILTON, HILTON HEAD'S WORKFORCE FACES CHALLENGES INCLUDING LONG COMMUTE TIMES, POOR LIVING CONDITIONS AND OVERCROWDING. 
          THIS HAS LED TO STAFFING SHORTAGES THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, RENT, RENT PRICES HAVE FORCED WORKFORCE, UH, WORKERS TO LIVE OFF ISLAND FAR FROM WORK THAT LEADS TO LONG COMMUTE TIMES, CONGESTION, ALL SORTS OF OTHER CHALLENGES, REALLY CHALLENGES TO, YOU KNOW, ATTRACT AND RETAIN FOLKS ON ISLAND. 
          UM, IT ALSO HAS LED TO OVERCROWDING AND SUBSTANDARD WORKING CONDITIONS. 
          AND SO WE, WE REALLY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BE TACKLING THIS. 
          AND SO THERE IS THE EXISTING, UH, HILTON HEAD WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM. 
          THE PROGRAM'S NOT CURRENTLY BEEN USED, IT'S NOT REALLY ADDRESSED THE HOUSING CHALLENGES 
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SPECIFICALLY FOR HOTELS. 
          UM, RESTRICTIONS LIKE MINIMUM ROOM SIZES, SPECIFIC UNIT MIX REQUIREMENTS AND LIMITATIONS ON WHICH MEMBERS OF THE WORKFORCE CAN LIVE IN THE CONVERTED PROPERTIES HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS LACK OF UTILIZATION. 
          UM, THE TEXT MEMO WE'RE PROPOSING TO THE LMO ENABLES, UH, CONVERSIONS OF HOTELS TO WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH WILL ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE WORKFORCE TO LIVE HERE ON THE ISLAND AFFORDABLY WITH HIGH LIVABILITY STANDARDS, IMPORTANTLY WITHOUT THE NEED FOR ANY TOWN FUNDING. 
          UM, AS YOU, AS YOU MAY KNOW, UH, MANY HOTELS ON THE ISLAND HAVE STRUGGLED TO PERFORM IN RECENT YEARS. 
          UH, GROWTH, GROWTH IN HOTEL SUPPLY ON THE ISLAND. 
          RISING EXPENSES AND DECLINING ROOM RATES HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS, A LOT OF THESE HOTELS HAVE BECOME UNDERCAPITALIZED OVER THE YEARS. 
          UM, WHILE THIS LACK OF INVESTMENT POSE A PROBLEM FOR THE ISLAND, IT ALSO PRESENTS A REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY HERE, UM, FOR ADAPTIVE REUSE OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, WHICH WE THINK IS GREAT FOR THIS ISLAND AND HAS BEEN DONE IN MANY RESORT COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE US AND ALL COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE US. 
          UM, THESE HOTELS MAKE GREAT CANDIDATES FOR CONVERSION THROUGH THEIR EFFICIENT LAYOUTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, MEANT TO HOUSE INDIVIDUALS OR, OR MULTIPLE PEOPLE CENTRAL LOCATIONS AND REDUCE COSTS COMPARED TO NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          AND THEN JUST FAST TIMELINES TO ACTUALLY BRING HOUSING TO THE MARKET. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, UTILIZATION OF THESE UNITS AS WELL. 
          SPECIFICALLY THESE STUDIO UNITS WHERE PEOPLE ARE OFTEN CROWDED INTO 2, 3, 4 BEDROOM UNITS WILL ALSO FREE UP THOSE UNITS FOR PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND WHO MAY NEED A 2, 3, 4 BEDROOM UNITS SUCH AS A FAMILY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THESE HOTELS ARE POSITIONED CENTRALLY ON THE I LANE CLOSE TO WALKING PASS CLOSE TO THE TROLLEY ROUTES, UM, WHICH MAKES IT EASIER FOR TENANTS TO COMMUTE. 
          UM, AND LASTLY HERE, THE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS BEING, THESE PROJECTS CAN ACTUALLY GET DONE WITHOUT ANY TOWN FUNDING, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT, ALLOW THE TOWN TO USE MONEY FOR OTHER HOUSING INITIATIVES. 
          UM, THAT BEING SAID, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT WILL ALLOW THESE PROJECTS TO ACTUALLY GET DONE. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THE KEY OUTCOMES HERE IS, YOU KNOW, THESE STUDIO AND ONE BEDROOM UNITS, FOLKS ON THE ISLANDS, UH, WORKFORCE WILL ALLOW BOTH DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL WORKFORCE, BOTH KEY PARTS OF THE ISLAND, UM, TO LIVE AFFORDABLY ON THE ISLAND WITH HIGH LIVABILITY STANDARDS. 
          AND THIS WILL REDUCE COMMUTE TIMES, IMPROVE LIVING CONDITIONS, INCREASE SATISFACTION, ULTIMATELY REDUCING WORKER SHORTAGES AND TURNOVER, ALLOWING HILTON HEADS BUSINESSES TO CONTINUE TO THRIVE INTO THE FUTURE WITH THAT. 
          UM, I, I BELIEVE THIS, OUR TEXT AMENDMENT MEETS ALL OF THE, UM, AMENDMENT REVIEW STANDARDS. 
          I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THOSE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. 
          THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF LITERATURE AND RESEARCH THE TOWN HAS DONE ON PROVIDING OBTAINABLE AND REALLY OBTAINABLE HOUSING IS WHAT I WANNA FOCUS ON HERE. 
          THAT MEANS THAT SOMEBODY CAN LIVE ON THE ISLAND, NOT COST BURDEN, AND WHETHER THEIR INCOME IS 40%, 60%, EVEN 180% OR A HUNDRED PERCENT, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO LIVE HAVE OBTAINABLE HOUSING ON THE ISLAND IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT HERE. 
          AND THAT COULD BE FOR INTERNATIONAL WORKFORCE, DOMESTIC WORKFORCE, UM, YOUNG OLD, IN BETWEEN ALL ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE ON THE ISLAND. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS A HUGE, A HUGE GOAL AT THE ISLAND TO FACILITATE THIS CONSTRUCTION. 
          AND WE THINK THIS CAN BE DONE VERY QUICKLY. 
          SO I'VE HIGHLIGHTED 40 PLACES WHERE THIS IS MENTIONED AND, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SPARE YOU, I WON'T READ THROUGH ALL THOSE. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ONE, IT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          TWO, IT'S REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS, AS I MENTIONED, GIVEN THE CONDITION THAT THESE HOTELS AND GIVEN THE GROWING SHORTAGE OF HOUSING ON THE ISLAND, I THINK WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR THAT, SO I, I WON'T HIGHLIGHT THAT ANYMORE. 
          UM, IT DEMONSTRATES A COMMUNITY NEED. 
          UH, HOUSING'S MENTIONED 234 TIMES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          IT IS A HUGE NEED AND WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO, TO, UH, PROVIDE HOUSING ON THE ISLAND IN SHORT ORDER. 
          UM, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND ONE THAT'S BEEN WELL TROTTED BY COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE US. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT THE, AND THEN FINALLY, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENTION OF THE ZONE. 
          SORRY, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENTION OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS AND THE ORDINANCE. 
          UM, HOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THIS IS ALLOWABLE JUST NOT AT THIS DENSITY ON THIS PROPERTY IN THESE ZONES. 
          UM, SO WE BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PLAN ALSO ALLOWS IT IN THESE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. 
          SO WE DO BELIEVE HOUSING, UH, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING SHOULD BE ALLOWED HERE. 
          UM, AND THEN IT'S A LOGICAL AND ORDERLY, UM, DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          I LAID OUT A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS LATER, BUT ONE OF THE KEY ASPECTS HERE IS NO ONE'S COM CONVERTING A $300,000 A KEY RESORT INTO WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS PROPERTIES THAT MAY BE AFFORDABLE TO PURCHASE THAT ARE NOT PERFORMING AS HOTELS WILL GET CONVERTED TO OBTAINABLE HOUSING FOR THE ISLAND. 
          SO WE BELIEVE THAT IT RESULTS IN A LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. 
          UM, AND THEN IT WOULD NOT SIGNIFICANTLY IM IMPACT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, THE SITE'S BEEN EXISTING THERE, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEGATIVE 
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CHANGES TO THE SITE. 
          IF ANYTHING, WE PROPOSING ADDITIONAL UPGRADES TO THE FACADE UPGRADES TO THE LANDSCAPING AND, AND THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS. AND, YOU KNOW, BUILDING CODE UPGRADES AS WELL. 
          UM, I, I LAID OUT A TON OF FAQS IN THERE AHEAD OF TIME. 
          IF, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH THOSE. 
          UM, REALLY, UH, WITH THE PROSPECTIVE PROPERTY MAP IN HERE, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY HOTELS THAT SHOULD REALLY APPLY TO ON THE ISLAND. 
          IT'S REALLY A SELECT GROUP OF SELECT SERVICE HOTELS. 
          AND, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT, UM, THOSE WOULD BE GREAT CANDIDATES FOR, FOR THIS, UH, PROGRAM. 
          YOU KNOW, WE ARE PURSUING THE CONVERSION OF A HOTEL, BUT WE KNOW THAT THIS AMENDMENT APPLIES TO ALL HO ALL HOTELS THAT FALL WITHIN THIS ON THE ISLAND. 
          SO OUR, YOU KNOW, APPROACHING THIS AS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE IS REALLY BULLETPROOF SO THAT IT ALLOWS, YOU KNOW, GOOD ACTORS TO COME THROUGH AND CONVERT THESE, CONVERT THESE PROPERTIES. 
          UM, THE, THE, AS FAR AS THE TAX AMENDMENT GOES, I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN TO RUN OUR TAX AMENDMENT AS PART OF THE LMO AS A SEPARATE ADAPTIVE REUSE HOTEL MOTEL CONVERSION PROGRAM. 
          SO INSTEAD OF ADAPTING, KIND OF TAKING THE SCALPEL TO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS MUCH CLEANER GIVEN IT JUST APPLIES TO HOTELS TO JUST WRITE THIS FOR THESE HOTELS AND NOT MAKE A BUNCH OF AMENDMENTS AND CHANGES THAT MAY AFFECT THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE, IN OUR AMENDMENT, WE PROPOSED A SIMILAR ONE-TO-ONE DENSITY CONVERSIONS. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE PROPOSED THAT PARKING IS AT A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO AS WELL. 
          THERE'S NOT REALLY ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE HOTELS TO INCREASE PARKING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE KIND OF A ONE-TO-ONE ALLOWABLE USE. 
          WE BELIEVE THERE'S GONNA BE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE LIVING IN THESE ROOMS REGARDLESS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE, UH, ANY SPECIFIC INCOME RESTRICTIONS ON THIS. 
          WE VIEW THIS AS NATURALLY OCCURRING OBTAINABLE HOUSING. 
          THESE ARE 210 TO 300 SQUARE FOOT UNITS. 
          UM, WE DON'T BELIEVE THEY WOULD EVER RENT FOR A HUGE EXPENSIVE PRICE THAT WASN'T OBTAINABLE ON THE ISLAND. 
          BUT WE ALSO REALIZE THAT PEOPLE AT 40% OR MAYBE AT 90% SHOULD BE ABLE TO RENT THESE IF IT ALLOWS THEM TO LIVE AND WORK ON THE ISLAND. 
          UM, AND THEN JUST THE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM FOR ANY LANDLORD AND FOR THE TOWN OF ACTUALLY CHECKING OFF ON EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO MAY BE LIVING THERE. 
          WE BELIEVE THESE WILL BE NATURALLY OCCURRING OBTAINABLE HOUSING. 
          AND WE'VE SEEN THAT IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY. 
          UM, SO THE, THE, THE LAST PIECE ON THIS AS WELL IS, AS YOU KNOW, MANY EMPLOYERS LEASE HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND TO HOUSE THEIR EMPLOYEES. 
          IT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO HAVE THESE EMPLOYEES COME AND WORK ON THE ISLAND. 
          AND SO THIS PROGRAM ALSO ALLOWS FOR EMPLOYERS TO LEASE BLOCKS OF ROOMS OR ROOMS FOR THEIR WORKFORCE TO COME ON THE ISLAND, WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN. 
          UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, BUT YOU KNOW, AROUND THIS, HOW IT, IT DIFFERS FROM THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A REALLY CLEAN WAY TO SEPARATE IT SINCE IT REALLY ONLY APPLIES TO SELECT HOTELS ON THE ISLAND. 
          AND AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S REALLY ONLY EXISTING HOTELS THAT HAVE SEALED AS A HOTEL AND NOT MEANT FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT OF HOTELS. 
          NOT THAT ANYONE IS DEVELOPING A NEW DEVELOPMENT OF A HOTEL AT CURRENT PRICING FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING OR WOULD ALREADY BE HAPPENING. 
          THANK YOU MR. GREEN. 
          WE ARE IN, UH, PUBLIC HEARING MODE, BY THE WAY. 
          I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT EARLIER. 
          BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE THOROUGHNESS OF YOUR WRITTEN, UH, UH, APPLICATION. 
          IT WAS VERY WELL DONE AND PROVIDED A LOT OF INFORMATION, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I DID THOUGH WANT TO HAVE THE COMMISSION, UH, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM THE TOWN ABOUT ANY, ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE SAME, UH, AMENDMENT CONTENT THAT IS MOVING FORWARD. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY THAT CAN TELL US ABOUT THAT? TREY, ARE YOU GONNA DO THAT FOR US TODAY? WHEN I GO DO THE STAFF REPORT FOR THAT, IT SHOULD POINT OUT SOME, SOME AREAS AND THEN I CAN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO THAT. 
          CAN YOU, IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYBODY? I WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION FROM ALL THE SOURCES AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT, OKAY. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. 
          ALRIGHT, SO I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH OUR STAFF REPORT HERE AGAIN. 
          AS COMMISSIONER SIEBOLD SAID, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND TITLE 16 AS THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF HILTON TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, CHAPTER 16 FOUR U STANDARDS TO ADD A NEW ADAPTIVE REUSE HOTEL MOTEL CONVERSION PROGRAM TO THE FOLLOWING SECTION 16,000 4 1 0 6. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING HERE IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HOLD THIS HEARING AND FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL. 
          ALRIGHT, SO I'M GONNA GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND HERE ON DECEMBER 11TH, 2024, 
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UH, CHRIS BRE, WHO YOU JUST HEARD FROM, WITH BLUE HOUR HOUSING SUBMITTED PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AT 16 FOUR, UH, AND 1610 RULES OF MEASUREMENT TO ALLOW FOR A NEW USE TO ESTABLISH, BE ESTABLISHED CALLED ADAPTIVE REUSE HOTEL MOTEL CONVERSION TO ESTABLISH MINIMUM UNIT SIZES FOR THE USE. 
          AND YOU SHOULD HAVE, UH, READ THROUGH THE OR OR THE APPLICANTS SUBMITTAL THERE. 
          UH, THE, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD CREATE A NEW USE CALLED ADAPTIVE REUSE HOTEL MOTEL CONVERSION PROGRAM THAT IS PERMITTED ON PROPERTIES LOCATED WITHIN THE DENSITIES ABOVE. 
          UH, YOU'VE GOT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES AS, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR RSF DISTRICTS. 
          UH, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE, UH, OUR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT LIGHT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, MAIN STREET DISTRICT SEA PINE CIRCLE, DISTRICT MEDICAL DISTRICT, MITCHELLVILLE DISTRICT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT MIXED USE DISTRICT, WHICH IS YOUR PD ONES AND WATERFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICTS AND STONY DISTRICTS. 
          UM, CREATION OF A NEW USE CALLED ADAPTIVE REUSE MO HOTEL MOTEL CONVERSION THAT WOULD PREVENT THE, THE CONVERSION OF EXISTING HOTELS AND MOTELS TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE AT, AT A ONE TO ONE DWELLING UNIT DENSITY CONVERSION RATIO IF THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS ARE MET. 
          EXISTING GUEST ROOMS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BE REDUCED OR INCREASED IN SIZE IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS ALLOWED. 
          HOWEVER, IT IS PERMITTED TO COMBINE MULTIPLE DWELLING UNITS INTO A SINGULAR DWELLING UNIT. 
          SO BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE SUBMITTING IS IF THERE ARE A HUNDRED ROOMS THERE, THE CONVERSION IS A HUNDRED UNITS FOR A HUNDRED UNITS. 
          THEY CAN'T INCREASE THAT NUMBER TO 101 102, BUT IF THEY COMBINE THEM, THEY CAN GO DOWN TO 98, 97, WHATEVER THE COMBINATION IS AFTER THAT, A 6% MAXIMUM REQUIRED BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE DEDICATED AS INTERIOR COMMUN COMMUNAL SPACE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE ELEVATORS, HALLWAYS, STAIRWELLS, AND OTHER AREAS USED OR ACTUALLY, UH, ELEVATORS, HALLWAYS, STAIRWELLS, AND OTHER AREAS USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR INGRESS. 
          AND EGRESS CANNOT BE COUNTED TOWARDS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THIS REQUIREMENT. 
          A MAXIMUM REQUIRED OPEN SPACE SHALL BE PROVIDED AT A RATE OF 10% OF THE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THAT IS YOUR EXTERNAL OPEN SPACE ON SITE. 
          AND THEN NO LESS THAN 25% OF THE DWELLING UNITS IN THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE OCCUPIED BY AT LEAST ONE PERSON THAT IS FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE OF A LAWFULLY LICENSED BUSINESS LOCATED WITHIN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          SO IF THE ROOM HAS THREE PEOPLE IN IT, ONLY ONE OF THEM HAS TO BE EMPLOYED AND ON THE ISLAND LEGALLY EMPLOYED ADAPTIVE REUSE PROPERTIES SHALL NOT BE USED AS SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTY. 
          ADAPTIVE REUSE PROPERTIES SHALL MEET STANDARD DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS AND BUILDING CODES. 
          IF AN ADAPTIVE REUSE PROPERTY IS NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE, THE APPLICANT SHALL MAKE REASONABLE EFFORTS TO LI TO ELIMINATE NONCONFORMITIES AND LESSEN THE EXTENT OF NONCONFORMITIES. 
          TO THE EXTENT REASONABLY PRACTICAL AND ADAPTIVE REUSE PROPERTY SHALL REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF ONE OFF STREET PARKING SPACE FOR EACH GUEST ROOM. 
          SO AGAIN, IF, IF THERE'S ONE GUEST ROOM, THEY'VE ONLY REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE PARKING SPOT AND THEN, THEN THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZES ARE AS FOLLOWS FOR MICRO EFFICIENCY 210 SQUARE FEET STUDIO 301, BEDROOM 4 22, BEDROOM 5 62 AND THREE BEDROOM 6 6 98. 
          SO THE ANALYSIS, ANALYSIS OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, UH, SECTION 16 2 1 0 3 B THREE OF THE LMO PROVIDES STANDARD OF REVIEW OF TEXT AMENDMENTS AND STATES THE FOLLOW UP AND DETERMINING WHETHER TO RECOMMEND THAT TOWN COUNCIL ADOPT OR DENY THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT. 
          THE PLAN COMMISSION MAY WEIGH THE RELEVANCE OF AND CONSIDER WHETHER AND THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS REQUIRED BY CHANGED CONDITIONS AND ADDRESSED A DEMO ADDRESSES. 
          A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE ZONING DISTRICT IN THIS ORDINANCE, OR WOULD APPROVE COMPATIBILITY AMONG USES AND ENSURE EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE TOWN WOULD RESULT IN A LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND WOULD NOT RESULT IN SIGNIFICANTLY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WATER, AIR, NOISE, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE, VEGETATION, WETLANDS, 
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AND THE NATURAL FUNCTIONING OF THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD CONSIDER THE ABOVE CRITERIA WHEN CONSIDERING THIS TEXT AMENDMENT STAFF ANALYZED AND AND EVALUATED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. 
          THE USE IS PROPOSED IN THE FOLLOWING 12 DISTRICTS THAT WE JUST COVERED. 
          UH, PREVIOUSLY, ALL OF THE ABOVE DISTRICTS CURRENTLY ALLOW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, SOME WITH CONDITIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PD ONE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH CURRENTLY DOES NOT ALLOW, UH, FOR MULTIFAMILY AT THIS TIME, HOTEL MOTEL CONVERSION PROGRAM. 
          IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT HOTELS ARE CURRENTLY NOT PERMITTED IN SEVEN OF THOSE PROPOSED 12 DISTRICTS. 
          HOWEVER, IF ONE DID EXIST AND WAS A LEGAL NONCONFORMITY, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED IN THIS PROGRAM. 
          HOTEL USES ARE NOT PERMITTED IN THE FOLLOWING DISTRICTS, WHICH IS RM FOUR RM EIGHT, RM 12, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL MEDICAL PLANNING, UNIT DEVELOPMENT ONE, AND THE C PINE CIRCLE DISTRICT. 
          THE ADAPTIVE REUSE CONVERSION WOULD PROPOSES A ONE GUEST ROOM TO ONE DWELLING UNIT AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED. 
          DENSITY CONVERSION RATIO, HOTEL DENSITY IN THIS, UH, CURRENTLY IN THIS, UH, ON THIS PARCEL THAT, OR HOTEL DENSITY, I'M SORRY, IS 32 ROOMS PER NET ACRE CURRENTLY PER THE LMO. 
          EXISTING EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DENSITY VARIES WITHIN THE 12 DISTRICTS PROPOSED FOR THIS ADAPTIVE REUSE PROGRAM AND RANGES FROM FOUR TO 16 DWELLING UNITS PER NET ACREAGE. 
          SO AN ADAPTIVE REUSE PROGRAM WILL LIKELY, UH, RESULT IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES THAT EXCEED THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES ALLOWED IN THE DISTRICT. 
          THE PROPOSAL CALLS FOR MINIMUM OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENT OF ONE OFF STREET PARKING SPACE FOR EACH GUEST ROOM. 
          THE LMO REQUIRES MULTI, MULTI-FAMILY OFF STREET PARKING AS FOLLOWS, A 1.1 FOR ONE BEDROOMS, 1.7 FOR TWO AND TWO PLUS FOR THREE BEDROOM UNITS. 
          THE PROGRAM IS PROPOSED TO REQUIRE A MAXIMUM OF 6% OF THE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE TO BE DEDICATED AS INTERIOR COMMUNAL OPEN SPACE. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE CONGREGATE, UM, RELAX NOT IN THEIR, IN THEIR LIVING SPACE. 
          AND THIS EXCLUDES ELEVATORS, HALLWAY, STAIRWELLS, AND OTHER AREAS FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS IS DISCUSSED FROM BEING COUNTED TOWARDS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THESE REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND ALSO, AGAIN, A 10%, UH, OPEN SPACE CALCULATION BASED ON THE CALCULATION OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING FOR THE EXTERNAL, UH, OPEN SPACE, UH, BOTH THE PROPOSALS COMMUNAL AND OPEN SPACE, COMMUNAL SPACE AND OPEN SPACE COULD BE AMENDED TO REQUIRE THEIR RESPECTIVE PERCENTAGES TO BE MINIMUMS AND LOBBIES AND LAUNDRY FACILITIES COULD BE ADDED TO THIS LIST OF EXCLUSIONS FOR CALCULATING COMMUNAL SPACE TO ENSURE THAT FUTURE RESIDENTS HAVE MEANINGFUL AND USEFUL COMMUN COMMUNAL OPEN OR COMMUNAL SPACE AND OPEN SPACE. 
          AND FINALLY, THE INTENT OF THE NEW USE AS COMMUNICATE BY THE APPLICANT IS THAT THE USE WOULD BE CREATED TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THE ISLANDS WORKFORCE AS DRAFTED. 
          25% OF THOSE DWELLING UNITS IN THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE OCCUPIED BY AT LEAST ONE PERSON THAT IS A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE AND LAWFULLY LICENSE HERE ON THE ISLAND. 
          HOWEVER, THESE CONVERSIONS ARE NOT TIED TO WORKFORCE HOUSING FAIR MARKET RENT, RENT CAP, OR ANY OTHER AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT. 
          THE TOWN'S BEEN WORKING ON DEVELOPING A HOTEL MOTEL ADAPTIVE REUSE PROGRAM, TEXT AMENDMENT AS PART OF THE LMO PRIORITY AMENDMENTS, WHICH IS ALL ALSO BEING CONSIDERED FOR INTRODUCTION AT THE JANUARY 15TH, 2025 PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH WE'RE HAVING CURRENTLY. 
          AND TOWN COUNCIL HAD A HELD A WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 20 OR 16TH, 2024 TO REVIEW THE PRIORITY AMENDMENT CONCEPTS AND PROVIDE REVIEW. 
          TOWN COUNCIL PROVIDED DIRECTION REGARDING ADAPTIVE REUSE AMENDMENTS SUCH AS CONCERNS THAT THE TOWN'S PRIORITY IS NOT BEING MET WITH THIS KIND OF CONVERSION CONCERN. 
          THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO THE OVERALL COMMUNITY CONCERNS REGARDING PARKING REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION REGARDING COMMUNAL SPACE AND THE NEED FOR EXAMPLE OF SUCH A REQUEST FOR AN AREA MAP WHERE THESE TYPES OF HOTELS MOTELS CURRENTLY EXIST AND THE NEED AND THE NEED FOR EXAMPLES. 
          SO IN SUMMARY ON, AGAIN, THIS IS THE SUMMARY THAT WE WENT THROUGH ON DECEMBER 11TH, 2024, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT, UM, AND YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE APPLICANT'S NARRATIVE AND HE SPOKE TO YOU AND I THINK WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO READ THAT. 
          SO I WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANY MORE OF THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE, BUT, AND YOU'VE READ THERE OH YES. 
          BEFORE, BEFORE I OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS, UH, BY COMMISSIONERS, I, I WANT TO, UM, REFER TO THAT MEETING OF TOWN, THE TOWN 
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COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 16TH OF LAST YEAR. 
          UH, SOME VERSION OF THIS CAME BEFORE THEM. 
          THEY RA THEY GAVE SOME DIRECTION AND RAISE SOME CONCERNS THAT EVIDENTLY STAFF WOULD GO BACK AND REWORK INTO THE NEXT VERSION OF THIS. 
          UM, MIKE, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT HOW MUCH OF, OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE TODAY HAS TAKEN THOSE TOWN COUNCIL CONCERNS INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, HOW, HOW CLOSELY DOES THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL REFLECT, UH, WHAT THE TOWN'S CURRENT, UH, WRITING OF, OF THAT, UH, PRIORITY AMENDMENT IS? SO CAN YOU TELL US, SO, SO IN, IN YOUR PACKET THERE WAS A, THE, THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE TOWN'S, UH, ADAPTIVE REUSE, MOTEL WORK, MO HOTEL MOTEL, WORKFORCE HOUSING AMENDMENT, WHICH INCORPORATED A LOT OF THOSE, UM, COMMENTS FROM TOWN COUNCIL CONCERNS THAT WERE IN THERE. 
          UH, WHAT WHAT WHAT WE FEEL LIKE IS MISSING FROM THIS ONE WOULD BE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT, WHICH WAS ADDED ADDITIONAL TO OURS. 
          UM, ALSO THE COMMUNAL OPEN SPACE AND OR COMMUNAL SPACE AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS WERE MINIMUMS IN HOURS WHERE THEIR MAXIMUM IN, IN THIS ONE. 
          UM, THERE'S ALSO THE ADDITION OF THE, KINDA WHAT I'M LOOKING HERE FOR IS, IS THERE, IS THERE, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN TELL US AS YOU LAY THE TWO PLANS SIDE BY SIDE, THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO, UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL INFORMATION AS WE CONSIDER THIS APPLICATION MAY BE MISSING. 
          UH, MR. SIEBOLD, IF YOU'RE ASKING US TO PREPARE A SIDE-BY-SIDE, WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT TODAY. 
          WE COULD HAVE THAT DONE IF WE HAD ADDITIONAL TIME TO DO SO. 
          THERE ARE SOME NOTABLE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO APPLICATIONS, UM, AND, UM, THERE ARE SOME SIMILARITIES AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, THERE'S BOTH THE, UM, THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S SOME CHANGES IN, UM, SOME OF THE, UM, AREAS WHERE THIS COULD BE ALLOWED. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME OF THE SITE DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS THAT ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. 
          UM, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE, UM, A RELATIVELY, UM, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHTFORWARD ANALYSIS OF THE COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          UM, BUT, BUT WE COULD DO THAT. 
          IT WOULD JUST REQUIRE US TO BRING THAT BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M, I'M TRYING TO BE MINDFUL THAT THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN TRYING TO DIGEST 128 PAGES WORTH OF HANDOUTS AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAYBE CRYSTALLIZE IT FOR, FOR, UH, JUST SIMPLICITY PURPOSES AS WE DO THIS TODAY. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW TO DO COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY, ANY SENSE OF HOW WE OUGHT TO PROCEED HERE? WE, WE HAVE THE TOWN WORKING ON ONE VERSION OF IT. 
          WE HAVE AN APPLICANT TODAY WHO'D LIKE US TO REACT TO THEIR VERSION, AND OUR ACTION IS SIMPLY TO SEND IT BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION. 
          UM, AND WE ALREADY KNOW THAT TOWN COUNCIL HAS RAISED SOME ISSUES OF SOME PREVIOUS VERSION THAT I'M NOT SURE OF. 
          MR. BREEN, I, I JUST WANT TO, I MAKE A COMMENT SURE. 
          ABOUT THAT. 
          I JUST WANNA ADDRESS A FEW OF THESE THINGS. 
          UH, THE FIRST TIME THIS WAS BROUGHT TO TOWN COUNCIL, IT WAS, FIRST IT WAS THE PREVIOUS TOWN COUNCIL SECOND. 
          NONE OF THEM HAD HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS AT ALL AHEAD OF TIME AND THIRD, IT WAS ABOUT SIX BULLETS ON A PAGE. 
          SO I THINK A LOT OF THE COMMENTS FROM LAST TOWN COUNCIL WERE REALLY ORIGINATED AROUND THE FACT THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS, AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE REVIEWED THE VIDEO MANY TIMES, THERE ARE QUESTIONS SUCH AS, WILL THERE BE KITCHENS? WHICH TO US IS THE BASIS IN A REQUIREMENT OF A LIVING SPACE. 
          SO SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS REFLECTED THE FACT THAT THESE QUESTIONS SHOULDN'T BE OVERREACTED TO, THEY WERE VERY MUCH QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY HAD JUST NOT SEEN THIS BEFORE. 
          SO MY VIEW IS THAT THE CONCERNS OF THE PREVIOUS COUNSEL HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BOTH IN THE TOWN, IN THE TOWNS, IN ONE WAY, THE AMENDMENT THEY'RE PURSUING, BUT ALSO IN OURS, OUR VIEW IS THAT WE WANT TO WRITE THIS NOW BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE THIS TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD IN ORDER TO PURSUE DEVELOPMENTS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE THIS COME TO A REALITY. 
          BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD BE CAREFUL TO OVERREACT TO PREVIOUS COMMENTS, UM, FROM TOWN COUNCIL. 
          AND THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION IS WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH EACH TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER INDIVIDUALLY AND SHARED ALL OF 
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THIS WITH THEM, THIS NEW AMENDMENT AND EVERYTHING WE ARE GO, WE ARE WORKING TO DO HERE. 
          AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT THEY'RE, WHEN THEY GET THIS, ASSUMING THEY MOVE FORWARD, THEY WILL BE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO THEM IN A WAY THAT THEY WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS NEW COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          UH, THE REASON I'M GOING THROUGH THESE EXTRA STEPS HERE IS IN THE FOUR YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE RECEIVED AN APPLICATION FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT FROM AN APPLICANT THAT HASN'T GONE THROUGH THE TOWN STAFF AND SOME OTHERS. 
          AND SO I'M, I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT WAY OF GOING ABOUT THIS, BUT, UM, MISSY AND TRADE, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? I'M GONNA ASK FOR THE REST OF THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN HERE IN A MINUTE. 
          BUT ANY ADDITIONAL POINTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? UM, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, IT IS A LITTLE BIT AWKWARD THAT YOU WERE JUST INTRODUCED WITH A TOWN VERSION AND THERE'S AN APPLICANT VERSION HERE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE SAME MEETING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, MR. BREEN CAME AND WE WERE WORKING ON THE ADAPTIVE REUSE AMENDMENT THAT, THAT, THAT WE JUST INTRODUCED, UM, THAT ULTIMATELY THE TIMING OF, UM, YOU KNOW, HIS NEEDS WEREN'T IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE PRIORITY SET AND, AND THE TIMING OF HOW THAT WAS ROLLING OUT. 
          SO, UM, THEY WANTED A FASTER TRACK AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY WENT TO WORK ON AN AMENDMENT. 
          UM, THEY ARE, THEY ARE SIMILAR, BUT THEY'RE ALSO DIFFERENT AT THE SAME TIME. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFICULT FOR YOU. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD, UM, YOU, YOU HAVE, UH, AN APPLICATION SET WITH A TEXT AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU AND A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UM, SO PLEASE CONTINUE TO CONSIDER THAT. 
          UM, AND, UH, WE WILL BE HERE AS RESOURCES FOR YOU AS YOU DELIBERATE. 
          CAN I, COMMISSIONER, LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR COMMISSION QUESTIONS. 
          I WAS STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER WHALEY. 
          WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT, SO WE HAVE THIS, UM, PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT FROM THE APPLICANT, RIGHT? IT DIFFERS FROM THE TOWN, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IT EXPANDS USES OF ADAPTIVE HO ADAPTIVE USE OF HOTEL TO AREAS THAT I SAT IN AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. 
          WERE NEVER CONTEMPLATED. 
          SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL NEVER CONTEMPLATED BACK IN SEPTEMBER. 
          I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, REACTIONS TO COMMENTS, BUT I WAS SITTING THERE, I WAS PRETTY CLEAR TO ME WHAT THE INTENT WAS WITH RESPECT TO WORKFORCE HOUSING AND WHERE IT SHOULD BE. 
          UH, THIS KIND OF THING SHOULD BE HAPPENING. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO TODAY? WE'RE WE'RE, I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO WORK ON THAT. 
          I, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, BUT WE, WE, WE NEED TO ACT ON, ON WHAT'S BEFORE. 
          SO LET'S GO WITH COMMISSIONER DWA, THEN COMMISSIONER COURT. 
          I'D BE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON BEFORE I DO MUCH OF ANYTHING BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCES THAT NEED TO BE COMMISSIONER CORDES. 
          CAN I ASK THE APPLICANT TO DISCUSS SPECIFICALLY, YOU ALLUDED WHEN YOU FIRST PRESENTED IT THAT THERE WAS SOME DIFFERENCES THAT MIGHT MAKE IT, I'M PARAPHRASING WHAT YOU SAID, NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE IN THE TOWN VERSION. 
          CAN YOU EX, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK THOSE ARE? OF COURSE. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M HAPPY TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO APPLICATIONS HERE AND SPECIFICALLY THE ONES THAT MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY NOT FEASIBLE. 
          UM, ECONOMICALLY PERSPECTIVE. 
          THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, THE RESTRICTS THOSE RENTING UNITS TO BE BETWEEN 60 AND 80% OF A MI. 
          THAT MEANS IF YOU MAKE LESS, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO LIVE THERE. 
          IF YOU'RE AN INTER SOMEONE WHO'S INTERNATIONAL WORKFORCE, YOU AREN'T PROBABLY ALLOWED TO LIVE THERE. 
          UM, IF YOU MAKE 85%, IF YOU'RE A FIREFIGHTER POLICE OFFICER, TWO PEOPLE LIVING TOGETHER, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO LIVE THERE. 
          AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE OBTAINABLE HOUSING. 
          SO THE KEY DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT THERE'S NOT THAT RESTRICTION. 
          THAT RESTRICTION ALSO COMES WITH ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN OF THE TOWN TO CHECK AND MONITOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT IS LIVING THERE, WHICH WE VIEW IS VERY CHALLENGING TO DO AND PROBABLY NOT BEING DONE AS EVIDENCED BY THE SENIOR LIVING FACILITY THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. 
          UM, SO OUR GOAL WOULD BE THAT THAT IS THE KEY, MAIN DIFFERENCE HERE. 
          I THINK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AREAS WHERE IT'S ALLOWED, WE PURELY JUST ALIGN THAT WITH WHERE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THERE'S SOME AREAS WHERE HOTELS DON'T CURRENTLY EXIST. 
          WE JUST KEPT IT ALIGNED WITH THAT. 
          WE'RE HAPPY TO STRIKE THOSE LATER WITH TOWN COUNCIL IF, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE IT OR MOTION TO MOVE IT FORWARD WITHOUT THOSE DISTRICTS. 
          UM, AS FAR AS, UM, MINIMUMS OR MAXIMUMS, I THINK WE TRIED TO STAY VERY ALIGNED ON THIS. 
          OUR WORDING IS JUST REQUIRED MAXIMUM VERSUS MINIMUM REQUIRED. 
          IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME THING. 
          WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT THE TOWN COULDN'T COME AND REQUIRE A LARGER MAXIMUM OF OPEN SPACE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE TO BE ANY DIFFERENCE THERE. 
          AND THEN THE REALLY, THE NUANCE 
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HERE IS WE'VE JUST INCLUDED LAUNDRY FACILITIES AS PART OF COMMUNAL SPACE FOR THE PROPERTY, WHEREAS THE TOWN'S AMENDMENT AS PROPOSED DID NOT INCLUDE THAT. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OTHER DIFFERENCE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER DIFFERENCE WE PROPOSED HERE IS THAT WE, WE HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS NEEDS TO APPLY TO THE INTERNATIONAL EXISTING BUILDING CODE, NOT THE IBC. 
          THE IE BBC IS FOR ADAPTIVE REUSE AND CHANGE OF USE FOR EXISTING BUILDINGS. 
          AND THROUGH THAT THE IEBC POINTS TO THE IBC, WHICH IS THE BUILDING CODE. 
          SO WHAT WE JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, I DIDN'T THINK IT MADE SENSE TO CALL OUT SPECIFIC PIECES OF AN EVER CHANGING BUILDING CODE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IT NEEDED TO APPLY TO THE ADOPTED SOUTH CAROLINA IEBC AT TIME OF CONVERSION, WHICH I THINK IS THE STANDARD FOR PRETTY MUCH ALL PROJECTS ON THE ISLAND. 
          SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE MAIN CHANGES WE HAD HERE. 
          AND THEN PARKING, THE LAST THING IS PARKING. 
          WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY SAID ONE TO ONE THE TOWN'S PROPOSED AMENDMENT. 
          WHAT IT SAYS IS IF YOU PROVE TO US THROUGH STUDIES PROVIDING TRACK THAT, THAT YOU WOULD BE, WE COULD GRANT YOU ONE-TO-ONE, BUT YOU NEED TO GO ABOUT IMPROVING IT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, FOR A HOTEL THAT ONLY HAS THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS THAT ROOMS EXIST, THERE'S REALLY NOT A WAY TO MAKE THESE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE WITHOUT JUST MOVING FORWARD TO ONE-TO-ONE PARKING. 
          AND AS SOMEONE WHO'D BE DEVELOPING A PROPERTY, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL TO HAVE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN THESE UNITS AND THEY, ONE WOULDN'T BE LIVING IN THE UNITS IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE PARKING. 
          AND TWO, OUR VIEW IS BECAUSE INTERNATIONAL WORKFORCE ALSO WOULD BE LIVING HERE. 
          NONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE CARS AND THEREFORE THERE'S NOT THE SAME DENSITY OR SAME PARKING REQUIREMENTS AS SAY 1.3 CARS PER UNIT FOR A ONE BEDROOM. 
          THESE ARE EFFICIENCY UNITS WITH ONE OR TWO PEOPLE. 
          AND SO OUR VIEW IS, SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE MAIN DIFFERENCES AND I'M HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH ANY OF THOSE. 
          I'VE SPENT THE LAST BETTER PART OF, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS POURING OVER THIS AND I CAN ADDRESS ANY OF THE DIFFERENCES RIGHT NOW IF YOU NEED ME TO. 
          THE REALITY IS WE NEED THIS AS THE RECOMMENDATION SAYS AT THE START, TO BRING THIS TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THEIR DISCUSSION. 
          WE NEED THAT TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO MAKE THESE, UH, PROJECTS FEASIBLE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION. 
          ANY OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR COMMISSIONER, UH, LOBO? YEAH, ONE OTHER DIFFERENCE THAT I SEE AND, AND I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW YOU CAME ABOUT THE NUMBERS FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BECAUSE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY SHOCKING TO ME. 
          I MEAN, I, I LOOK AT THE, THE THREE BEDROOM 698 SQUARE FEET AND YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT I, EMPLOYEES THAT I HAVE THAT WOULD BE USING THE THREE BEDROOM AS A, YOU KNOW, HUSBAND AND WIFE, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, 1, 2, 3 KIDS. 
          AND I, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IN 698 SQUARE FEET FOR A THREE BEDROOM. 
          YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          UM, THOSE ARE, THOSE NUMBERS ARE THE SAME AS THE TOWNS AS PROPOSED IN THEIR TEXT, I BELIEVE. 
          ARE THEY DIFFERENT? WHAT IS THE, SORRY. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          WE, WE PROPOSED, I, I, SORRY. 
          WE PROPOSED IT AS A COMBINATION OF THREE UNITS WOULD, OR THREE SPECIFIC UNITS WOULD JUST RESULT IN, OR FOUR UNITS WOULD RESULT IN A THREE BEDROOM. 
          UH, IT'S JUST BASED ON THE CURRENT UNIT SIZES. 
          BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT IF THE TOWN WANTS TO INCREASE THOSE MINIMUMS AT THE TOWN COUNCIL LEVEL. 
          APOLOGIES. 
          I, I, I FORGOT WE HAD MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT AS WELL. 
          UM, OUR INTENTION IS TO CONVERT THESE AT ONE-TO-ONE, WHICH IS INCREASES THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE UNITS. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER HARRIS? AND THE LAST THING I'LL HIGHLIGHT IS THE TOWN REALLY JUST TOOK A 25% REDUCTION OFF EVERYTHING, WHICH WE THOUGHT KIND OF DIDN'T NECESSARILY MAKE SENSE FOR E FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF UNITS. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE, UM, NATURALLY OCCURRING SITUATION TO REALLY PROBABLY EQUAL OR BE GREATER THAN THE 25% THAT THE TOWN WOULD'VE BEEN REQUIRING. 
          DID YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WE'RE, YEAH. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO JUST ADDRESS THIS AS IT'S A HOTEL, WHICH IS WHY WE DIDN'T WANNA COMMINGLE IT NECESSARILY WITH THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AMENDMENT. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY WAS MEANT FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT AND ADAPTIVE REUSE OF OFFICE SPACE OR OTHER PROPERTIES. 
          MR. HENS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES. 
          SO, UM, WE'VE KIND OF BEEN IN THE WEEDS HERE, BUT IF, IF WE STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE, UM, THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ON THE ISLAND IS, IS WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          IT'S NUMBER ONE. 
          SO, AND, AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE LAST THINGS WE WANT IS AN UNDERCAPITALIZED UNDERUTILIZED HOTEL. 
          SO IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR, FOR EVERYBODY THAT LIVES AND WORKS HERE AND, AND THANKS CHRIS FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, HELPING THE, THE COMMUNITY WITH OUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE. 
          UM, SO WHEN YOU FIND A HOTEL THAT'S UNDER CAPITALIZED, UNDERUTILIZED, IT WOULD WORK PERFECTLY FOR THIS. 
          AND CLEARLY THE TOWN 
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WANTS THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY CONVERSION BECAUSE WE JUST, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT HERE. 
          WE JUST WENT OVER IT EARLIER TODAY. 
          BUT WHEN YOU HAVE AN EXISTING PROPERTY, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO PUT ALL OF THESE TENANTS IN THERE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SIZE REQUIREMENTS, THE, THE COMMON AREA, BECAUSE IT IS WHAT IT IS, THE PARKING. 
          SO I, I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT. 
          I, I I WOULD THINK THAT WE'D WANT TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK FOR THIS PROPERTY, UM, NOT TO, TO FIND, UM, HURDLES TO HAVE TO OVERCOME. 
          SO, SO FOR ME, UM, I, I KNOW THE TOWN PRESENTED, UM, THEIR, THEIR PERSPECTIVE LMO REWRITE FOR, FOR THIS TYPE OF CONVERSION. 
          AND, AND CHRIS HAS BOUGHT US WHAT THEY FEEL WILL WORK, UM, FOR, FOR THIS REAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD PASS THIS TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH OUR BLESSING THAT, UM, TO WORK WITH THEM TO, TO FIND A WAY FOR US TO INCREASE OUR WORKFORCE HOUSING ON THE ISLAND. 
          YOUR COMMENT, UM, I'M, I'M GONNA SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE CLOSE THAT OFF. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND YOUR NAME IS? MY NAME IS ROB JORDAN. 
          I'M A 40 YEAR RESIDENT OF, OF HILTON HEAD. 
          AND I'M, UH, I GUESS YOU'D CALL ME ALMOST OUT THE PASTURE, BUT A SENIOR PARTNER IN THE SURGE RESTAURANT GROUP. 
          YES. 
          YES SIR. 
          YES. 
          SO, UM, WE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS ON THE ISLAND ON THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING TOPIC. 
          UM, THE NORTH POINT PROJECT THAT THEY ALL TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TODAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON, AND I THINK WE MET PROBABLY AT THE CHAMBER, WHAT, SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          AND SO WE'VE ALSO SURGE INVESTED IN, IN THE PROPERTY, UH, ACROSS FROM THE COLLEGE. 
          THAT WAS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. 
          IT PASSED. 
          IT STILL HASN'T COME OUT OF THE GROUND. 
          SO ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, THE TOWN CONTACTED SURGE AND SAID, WE HAVE A D UH, DEVELOPER OUT OF NEW YORK CITY BLUE OUR WHO WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT GETTING INVOLVED WITH THEIR PROJECT. 
          SO FOR THIS, FOR US, FOR OUR COMPANY, IT'S A WIN-WIN SITUATION AND BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY TAKE A PROJECT AND GET IT UP AND RUNNING IN SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS TIME. 
          SO THIS IS JUST ONE OTHER TOOL IN THE PROJECT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. 
          SO WE'RE, WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, LET, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO SPEAK. 
          'CAUSE UH, UH, YES MA'AM. 
          AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE OUR CONVERSATION. 
          UM, I'M KATIE HENDERSON, UH, 18 FOX FRYER LANE. 
          UM, I WANNA SAY IT WAS SEPTEMBER, I'M NOT SURE. 
          I WAS IN THE PRE-OP MEETING AND THEY BROUGHT, UH, UH, THIS TO THE PRE-OP MEETING AND THE TOWN SAID ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          THIS IS NOT A QUALITY OF LIVING. 
          THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WHO WANTS, WE ARE JUST SHOVING PEOPLE IN FOR WHAT PURPOSE? THIS, I MEAN, THIS IS NOT THEIR I WHAT IS A HIGH LIVABILITY STANDARD? I MEAN, DEFINE SOME STUFF. 
          LET US KNOW WHAT EXACTLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS CAN VOTE ON THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW ENOUGH. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENT? UH, MR. SMITH OR WILLIAMS? MR. WILLIAMS? SORRY. 
          MR. WILLIAMS. CHESTER . 
          GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES. 
          CHESTER WILLIAMS AGAIN. 
          UM, ALL THE TALK HERE ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING IS MISLEADING 'CAUSE THERE IS NO ELEMENT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING THERE. 
          PROPOSAL IT ALL MARKET RATE. 
          AND THAT I THINK IS A BIG DISSERVICE TO THE TOWN. 
          THEY, THESE FOLKS WANT ALL THESE CONCESSIONS FROM THE TOWN. 
          THEY COULD END UP WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AT 35 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE THE MAXIMUM OF WHAT'S PERMITTED ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT THEY DON'T WANNA GIVE UP ANYTHING IN RETURN. 
          AND TO BOOT, THEY WANT TO BE TREATED BETTER THAN THE WORKFORCE HOUSING APPLICANT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HAVE UNITS THAT ARE EVEN SMALLER THAN THE MINIMUM THAT'S REQUIRED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, COMMERCIAL CONVERSION. 
          THIS, I, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE TO PICK ONE OR THE OTHER OF THESE, THE TOWN'S PROPOSAL IS FAR, FAR BETTER FOR THE TOWN AS A WHOLE, THEN THIS PROPOSAL, THIS PROPOSAL MAY BE A LOT BETTER FOR SURGE AND IT MAY BE A WIN-WIN FOR SURGE. 
          BUT I POSIT TO YOU THAT IT IS NOT A WIN-WIN FOR THE TOWN BECAUSE 
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THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE ANY SORT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED HERE. 
          THANK YOU WILLIAMS. ANYBODY ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK WITH US? UM, OKAY. 
          I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          GO TO THE COMMISSION FOR QUE COMMENTS. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER DBA MAY BE UNFOUNDED, BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF INCOME OF THESE HB TWO FOREIGN WORKERS WOULD GO TOWARD RENTING ONE OF THESE UNITS? WOULD IT BE 80%, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS LIKE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, THAT THAT COULD BE A REAL CONCERN. 
          WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE COME HERE FOR FOREIGN COUNTRIES AND, AND EARN MONEY ONLY TO SEE IT AID IN NEAR ENTIRETY TO THE LANDLORD. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S REAL CONSIDERATION, HAVING THOSE THINGS, UH, FLUSHED OUT A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE DO IT. 
          WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION? WE HAVE A PROPOSAL BEFORE US, UH, COMMISSIONER WHALEY, COMM RESPOND TO ANY, I'M SORRY, AM I ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THESE COMMENTS? CERTAINLY COUPLE, COUPLE. 
          YEAH, SURE. 
          COME BACK, BACK UP. 
          YEAH. 
          SO JUST ONE COMMENT ON THAT, UM, THAT THEY SHOULD BE PROGRAMS A FEDERALLY, UH, REGULATED PROGRAM THAT REQUIRES, UH, EMPLOYERS TO NOT CHARGE MORE THAN A CERTAIN PERCENT OF AN EMPLOYEE'S INCOME. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A LEGAL THING SO THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED, UM, IF ANYTHING, AN EMPLOYER WOULD BE SUBSIDIZING HOUSING TO ENSURE AND THAT THAT'S JUST LIKE A LEGAL H TWO B REGULATORY ITEM. 
          UM, AND WE DO HAVE, OUR DESIRE IS TO CREATE AT OBTAIN ISLAND FOR THE HOU HOUSING FOR THE ISLAND. 
          WE'VE CREATED A PERCENTAGE OF UNITS THAT HAVE TO BE, HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING ON THE ISLAND. 
          WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE DISCUSSION AROUND THAT NUMBER, BUT THAT IS OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE, OBTAIN HOUSING AND TO CREATE A STRUCTURE WHERE, UM, BOTH INDIVIDUALS CAN RENT UNITS AND EMPLOYERS CAN RENT UNITS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE LIVING ON THE ISLAND. 
          THESE ARE 200 TO 300 SQUARE FOOT UNITS. 
          THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          SO OUR VIEW IS, YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE, IT, IT HAS TO BE PEOPLE WHO'S, YOU KNOW, ARE LIVING ON THE ISLAND OR WORKING ON THE ISLAND. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CREATING THIS OBTAINABLE HOUSING AND WE'VE DONE THIS IN OTHER AREAS AND WE BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S A REALLY EFFECTIVE WAY TO CREATE HOUSING IN ANY AREA WHILE NOT PUTTING OVERBURDENSOME INSTRUCTIONS THAT MAKE PROJECTS NOT HAPPEN. 
          AND SO WE'RE, WE'D LOVE FOR THIS TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN THAT WILL ALLOW THIS TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE CHOSEN TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS WAY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          MR. WHALEY, AS PRESENTED, I'M NOT REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS FOR THREE REASONS. 
          ONE IS, UH, WHEN I WAS LISTENED TO THE RATIONALE FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, I WAS SKEPTICAL, BUT THEN I CONSIDERED, UH, THE LONG HISTORY ON THIS ISLAND OF FAMILIES WHO WERE, PEOPLE WERE BORN AND RAISED HERE, COULDN'T LIVE ON THE ISLAND, COULDN'T BUY A HOME ON THE ISLAND, AND THE VISION BEHIND WORKFORCE HOUSING WAS NOT ATTAINABLE HOUSING THE APPLICANT. 
          WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU'RE USING A DIFFERENT TERM THAN WE HAVE FROM A VISION. 
          ATTAINABLE HOUSING IS NOT WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          OUR VISION FOR OUR WORKFORCE WAS TO CREATE A STEPPING STONE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE OR GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE HERE WHO WANNA ESTABLISH A LIFESTYLE HERE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE AROUND ATTAINABLE HOUSING. 
          'CAUSE AS AN EMPLOYER, YOU'RE PULLING AT THE, I NEED TO GET SOMEBODY ON THE ISLAND TO WORK. 
          UM, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER POINTED OUT THE SIZE OF THE LIVING UNITS. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S NOT LIVING, THAT'S EXISTING. 
          UM, TO ME, I WAS SOLD ON THE CONCEPT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING BECAUSE I CONSIDERED IT A STEPPING STONE. 
          AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THAT THIS IS IN THE VISION, THE ORIGINAL VISION IS IN ENCOMPASSED IN THE PLAN, NOR IS IT IN THE, UH, TEXT THAT THE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON AND WAS DISCUSSED LAST SEPTEMBER. 
          SO IN ITS CURRENT FORM, I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF EVEN MOVING IT TO THE COUNCIL AND, UH, TAKING UP THEIR TIME BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON THE LMO AS A WHOLE. 
          UH, THIS EXPANDS WHERE ATTAINABLE HOUSING WOULD BE SITUATED ON THE ISLAND IN, UM, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. 
          IT'S NOT RESTRICTED TO WHERE THE HOTELS ARE TODAY. 
          UM, AND IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE VISION OF EXPANDING, UH, AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE'RE GIVING A STEPPING STONE TO PEOPLE ALLOWING TO RAISE A FAMILY AND NOT JUST SIMPLY SATISFYING EMPLOYER'S NEEDS. 
          ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND BOTH. 
          SO THAT'S MY, I JUST WANNA SHARE MY THOUGHTS. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE SOMEBODY MOVE? I WILL JUST SAY, I, I AND I, I KNOW FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS OF THIS COMMISSION PLUS IN CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH EVERYBODY INDIVIDUALLY, WE'RE ALL SUPPORTIVE OF A WORKFORCE HOUSING SOLUTION FOR THE I EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THAT IS VERY BADLY NEEDED. 
          SO I GUESS IT'S IN JUST WHAT DOES THAT PERFECT SITUATION LOOK LIKE AND IF, IF, UH, WHAT OUR, WHAT WE'RE 
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WORKING ON AS A TOWN, LMO PROVISION, UM, IS NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE ENOUGH FOR A DEVELOPER TO ACTUALLY USE, THEN I'M NOT SURE I'M, I'M CONFLICTED THERE. 
          I'M WONDERING IF, IF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE HERE IS GONNA KEEP INVESTORS LIKE BLUE HOUR FROM BEING INTERESTED IN IT, AND THEREFORE WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE PROBLEM THAT, THAT'S WHY I'M HAVING THE BIGGEST STRUGGLE. 
          SO THAT, UH, SO GIVEN ALL THAT, WHERE, WHERE ARE WE? IS SOMEBODY WILLING TO MOVE IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER, UM, MOVE TO APPROVE THE, UM, PROPOSAL AS PRESENTED? THERE IS APPROVAL, A MOVE TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEFORE US FROM LUAU HOUSING. 
          SECOND. 
          SECONDED. 
          IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN? I THINK THE MOTION SHOULD BE TO FORWARD IT TO COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. 
          SORRY. 
          SORRY. 
          THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          WITH THAT AMENDMENT IS TO FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL THE RECOMMENDATION? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, YES, YES. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ASSUME THAT WOULD OKAY. 
          BEEN ASSUMED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          CAN I MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION? SURE. 
          I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION THEN TO MOVE IT TO TOWN COUNCIL, UH, WITH A STRONG RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE LOOKED AT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE STAFF'S STAFF'S VERSION AS WELL AS THE ORIGINAL VISION. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN CONTEMPLATED IN WHAT'S BEEN PUT BEFORE US. 
          UH, IS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION AMENABLE TO THAT AMENDMENT? UH, I THINK SOMEBODY HAVE SECOND IT. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE, IS THERE A SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT ON THE MOTION? COMMISSIONER AUGH? UH, I GUESS TECHNICALLY WE NEED, UH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU, IF IT IS CONSIDER THE TOWN, LIKE THE TOWN ISN'T FINISHED WITH THEIRS, THEN THERE'S CHALLENGES WITH THAT? OR IS THIS WITH THE TOWN'S COUNCIL? WELL, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY. 
          I DON'T WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL'S NOT WAITING ON SOMETHING TO, TO HEAR THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE AS I UNDERSTAND YOUR PROPOSED AMENDMENT, IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT TOWN COUNCIL KNOWS THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN COORDINATING YES. 
          THE TOWN'S VERSION WITH THE VERSION THAT'S BEFORE THE FUTURE VER AND, AND THE VISION OF WORKFORCE HOUSING IS STATED. 
          IS THAT YOU SECOND THAT AMENDMENT. 
          OKAY, LET'S VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. 
          CAN, UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION? RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          1, 2, 3 AT FAILS. 
          SO WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH IS TO RECOMMEND TO TOWN COUNCIL THAT THIS, UM, THIS, THAT, THIS APPROACH MOVE THAT THE BLUE, OUR PROPOSAL GO FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE WE, ARE WE READY TO VOTE ON THAT MOTION? EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THE MOTION? OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          1, 2, 3, 4 MOTION FAILS. 
          LET'S TRY ANOTHER ROUTE HERE. 
          UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH? I'LL RESUBMIT MY MOTION TO SEND IT TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH A STRONG RECOMMENDATION THAT THE STAFF DO A COMPLETE ANALYSIS OF SIDE BY SIDE AS AGAINST THE ORIGINAL VISION OF WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          ALRIGHT, SO IT'S NOT TO APPROVE THE BLUE HOUR HOUSING, BUT TO, TO RECOMMEND THE TOWN STAFF, I MEAN, THE TO TOWN COUNCIL DIVISION AND A SECOND VOTE. 
          COMMISSIONER DEIS? YES. 
          MISSY? YES. 
          UM, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT AND I WOULD IMAGINE THE APPLICANT AS WELL. 
          SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THIS MOTION IS, THAT IT IS NOT AS PRESENTED, BUT THAT WE ARE MAKING FURTHER REFINEMENTS, BUT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THAT IT BE APPROVED IN A MODIFIED FORMAT WITHOUT RECOMMENDING IT BE MOVED TO TOWN COUNCIL TO BE LOOKED AT, BUT IN A SIDE BY SIDE ANALYSIS, THAT SAME TOWN COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE WORK THAT THE TOWN HAS BEEN DOING ON THE, UH, ADAPTIVE REUSE AND IN THE CONTEXT OF THE STRATEGIC VISION FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING? I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER EVERYTHING WHEN THEY WERE REVIEWING OUR APPLICATION. 
          SO AS I BELIEVE TOM SAID, TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S TOWN COUNCIL'S ROLE TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING IN THIS APPLICATION PROCESS. 
          SO, OKAY, THEN I'LL WITHDRAW MY, I I'LL WITHDRAW. 
          IT'S ON THE TABLE IF YOU GUYS WANNA MOVE IT TO TOWN COUNCIL. 
          'CAUSE YOU CONSIDERED THE BILL. 
          MR. COLTRANE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO OUR, WELL, 
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MY COMMENT HAS NOW BEEN MOOTED BY COMMISSIONER WHALEY. 
          I MEAN, I, I THINK YOUR MOTION IS ONE OF TWO TO SEND IT TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OR TO SEND IT TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. 
          WHAT COUNCIL DOES WITH IT IN ITS DISCUSSION IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION, BUT IS ANYONE WILLING TO MAKE EITHER ONE OF THOSE MOTIONS? WHICH ONE? OKAY. 
          WOULD, WOULD THE MOTION MAKER PLEASE RESTATE MOTION? SAY I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT THE APPLICANT BE DENIED AND THAT, UH, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND AS PART OF THAT NOTION, UH, MOTION THAT THEY COME TOGETHER WITH THE TOWN FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, BUT FOR PURPOSES OF THIS, THAT WE, UH, DENY THE APPLICATION. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? MR. IS COMMISSIONER DEBOS SECONDS. 
          OKAY. 
          THE MOTION IS TO DENY, BUT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE BE, THAT THERE, THOSE PARTIES CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO COME TO A SOLUTION THAT IS THAT CORRECT DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          OKAY, WE'RE GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NOW WE ARE OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE, UH, PUBLIC, PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TODAY'S AGENDA, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY? OKAY, HEARING NONE. 
          WE MOVE TO COMMISSION 
          [8. Commission Business]
BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE SPECIAL ELECTION FOR AN INTERIM VICE CHAIR. 
          UH, I, EVERYBODY I THINK UNDERSTANDS THAT, UH, VICE CHAIR O'NEILL FROM THIS COMMISSION IS ON, UH, EXTENDED EXCUSED, UH, LEAVE. 
          AND SO, BUT HE WILL, AND SO HE CONTINUES TO FUNCTION AS A COMMISSIONER, BUT HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HOLD THE OFFICE OF VICE CHAIR. 
          SO IN A COMMUNICATION I HAD WITH Y'ALL YESTERDAY, I GAVE, UH, SOME ADVICE ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT PROCEED WITH THIS. 
          BUT WE WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS, UH, FOR THE POSITION OF INTERIM VICE CHAIR COMMISSIONER MEER. 
          I NOMINATE, I NOMINATE TOM HINES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IT'S A NOMINATION THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A SECOND, BUT YES, SIR. 
          I'D LIKE TO ATE JOHN CAMPBELL. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE THERE, AND I'D LIKE TO, UM, DECLINE MY NOMINATION IF HE'LL ACCEPT HIS. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE THERE ADDITIONAL NOMINATIONS? I WAS GONNA DECLINE MINE. 
          IF YOU SAY . 
          UH, ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS MOTION? MOTION TO CLOSE. 
          IS IT SECONDED? ALL APPROVE. 
          ALL ALL IN AGREEMENT TO CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS, PLEASE. 
          THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          NOW ON THE MOTION TO, UH, ELECT, UH, COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL, OUR INTERIM VICE CHAIR, THIS WOULD BE FOR A PERIOD NOT TO GO BEYOND, UH, AS LONG AS NEEDED, BUT NOT TO GO BEYOND JUNE 30TH, 2025. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          WELCOME BILL BOARD. 
          MR. COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL, THANK YOU FOR AGREEING TO DO THAT JOB. 
          I KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ARE THERE, IS 
          [10. Staff Reports]
THERE ANY STAFF REPORT TODAY? YES, SHAY? YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, SHAFER FOR THE RECORD. 
          UM, WE ARE SUPER EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU, UM, UPDATES ON THE DISTRICT'S PROJECT. 
          AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE, WE BEGIN OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TOMORROW, UM, IN THE SKULL CREEK DISTRICT. 
          SO, UM, WE HAVE ENGAGED WITH YOU GUYS TO HELP STAFF THOSE MEETINGS. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING TO BE PART OF THIS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, TO HAVING YOU INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          UM, THE MEETINGS THAT WILL FOLLOW, UM, FOR PARKWAY MARSH'S MAIN STREET FOREST SPEECH AND CHAPLAIN WILL BE HELD SEQUENTIALLY, UM, EACH WEEK BETWEEN FIVE TO SEVEN AND CAN BE, UM, FOUND ON OUR WEBSITE, UM, FOR THOSE LOCATIONS. 
          UM, AND THE TIMES AND DATES. 
          UH, THE INFORMATION THAT WILL BE REVIEWED AT THE WORKSHOP IS A FOLLOW UP TO THE SEPTEMBER 24TH, UH, TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP WHERE WE REVIEW THE THEME CHARACTER VISION, ASPIRATIONS, FOCUS AREAS FOR EACH DISTRICT. 
          UM, AT THE MEETING WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WILL GO THROUGH THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE REVIEWED WITH TOWN COUNCIL AND WE WILL ALSO PRESENT THE ANALYSIS MAPPING THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR EACH 
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DISTRICT. 
          UM, AT THE, AT THE MEETINGS WE'LL HAVE INTERACTIVE, UM, ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES THAT WILL BE USED TO GAIN, UM, INSIGHT FROM THE ATTENDEES ON THESE, UM, COMPONENTS TO OUR PLAN, WHICH WILL BE DEVELOPED. 
          UM, AND THE INPUT WILL BE FED INTO THAT. 
          UM, AND WE WILL CREATE DRAFTS, UH, FOR, UH, FUTURE REVIEW. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S THE UPDATE ON THE DISTRICT'S PROJECT. 
          UH, I WILL SEND OUT AN UPDATE, UH, TO YOU GUYS FOR WHO I HAVE SCHEDULED AT THOSE MEETINGS BASED ON YOUR AVAILABILITY. 
          SO PLEASE, IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO, UM, TO HOLD ANY OF THOSE COMMITMENTS, LET ME KNOW. 
          WE WANNA, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE STAFF, UM, FOR THE LMO UPDATES. 
          YOU HAVE JUST HEARD THE, UM, VERSION OF THE PRIORITY AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED. 
          UM, AND THE FULL CODE OVERHAUL DOES CONTINUE TO BE IN THE WORKS OF BEHIND THE SCENES. 
          WE'RE WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT ON THAT AS WELL. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE MY UPDATE FOR YOU GUYS TODAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR, UH, PATIENCE DURING THIS MEETING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE MEETING COMING UP, OUR NEXT MEETING ON FEBRUARY 19TH, WE ARE GONNA BE DELVING INTO THE 10 PRIORITY AMENDMENTS THAT WE WERE INTRODUCED TO US TODAY. 
          UH, YOUR HOME OFFICE PRINTERS HAVE BEEN SPARED A LOT BECAUSE WE ALL NOW HAVE THE ENTIRE THING THAT YOU COULD MAKE NOTES ON IN THE COLUMNS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          AND I WILL SEND OUT ANOTHER NOTICE ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING REMINDING EVERYONE TO GET THEIR QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE, PLEASE TO, TO THE TOWN STAFF SO THAT WE CAN BE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO ACT ON THESE NEXT MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          WE READY? ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO COME BEFORE US TODAY AND WE STAND ADJOURNED? HEY GUYS, I'M SAM WORLEY. 
          I'M THE OFF PARK RANGER HERE AT DREW ISLAND STATE PARK. 
          COME SPEND THE DAY WITH ME HERE WE ARE AT DRY ISLAND STATE PARKS MARINA. 
          I AM OVER MANAGING THE SLIPS HERE AT THE MARINA. 
          UM, WE HAVE 50 SLIPS, 48 OF 'EM ARE 25 BY 15 FOOT SLIPS, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO 50 FOOTER SLIPS. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN OVER THE MARINA PROGRAM FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, AND, UH, WHEN I FIRST STARTED WE HAD EIGHT SLIPS FILLED OUT OF 50, AND, UM, AFTER RUNNING IT FOR ABOUT 13 MONTHS, WE WERE ABLE TO REACH FULL OCCUPANCY. 
          UM, AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'VE HAD A WAIT LIST WITH ABOUT 15 EVER SINCE. 
          UM, WE GIVE SPECIAL OFFERS ON, UH, SLIP PRICES FOR THE 25 BY 15 FOOT SLIPS. 
          UM, IF YOU, YOU CAN DO A SIX MONTH OR A 12 MONTH IS THE ONLY TWO WE OFFER. 
          IF YOU DO THE 12 MONTH AND YOU CHOOSE TO PAY UP FRONT, YOU GET A 10% DISCOUNT. 
          IT'S $2,700 RATHER PAYING, UM, MONTH BY MONTH. 
          IT'S TWO 50 A MONTH, WHICH ADDS UP TO THREE GRAND. 
          AND THEN THE SIX MONTH LEASE IS $1,500. 
          UM, WHETHER YOU PAY IT ALL UP FRONT OR $250 PAYMENTS, I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR GENERATING INVOICES FOR OUR CURRENT LEASERS AS WELL AS SETTING UP NEW CONTRACTS, UM, AS WELL AS RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING OF THESE PEDESTALS, CHECKING THE UTILITIES, THE WATER, THE POWER. 
          WE HAD A COLD SNAP RECENTLY HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, I SET A DRIP SO THESE WOULDN'T BE WITHOUT, UM, RUNNING WATER FOR THE, UM, PEOPLE THAT COME OUT HERE OFTEN. 
          UM, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, KEEPING UP WITH THE LEASERS THEMSELVES AND GETTING TO KNOW 'EM ON A FACE-TO-FACE BASIS AND KNOWING, UM, KNOWING WHO I HAVE HERE AT THE MARINA, WE HAVE A FEW REGULARS, UM, AND THEY'RE A VITAL PART IN KEEPING THE, UH, MARINA UP TO DATE. 
          THEY LET ME KNOW IF SOMEONE'S BOATS COME LOOSE OR IF THERE'S BEEN DAMAGE TO A STORM. 
          UM, THE WATER'S DOWN RIGHT NOW, SO IT'S, UH, UM, IT IS A BIT OF AN ISSUE KEEPING TRACK OF, UM, THE SAFETY OF THESE BOATS. 
          UM, THE MARINA'S LIKE MY BABY, I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO, UM, WATCH IT GROW. 
          UM, A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT THE MARINA. 
          UM, WE HAD AN OLD MARINA THAT USED TO BE RIGHT HERE. 
          UM, AND THEN IN 2008 WE HAD A REALLY BAD STORM THAT CAUSED ENOUGH DAMAGE THAT OVER THE YEARS AFTER THAT, UM, THE MARINA BEGAN TO SINK. 
          UM, LATER WE GOT THE BUDGET TO REDO THE MARINA, UM, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE HERE, 
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AS WELL AS REDOING THE, UH, BATHHOUSE UP ON THE HILL, REMODELED ALL THE BATHROOMS, UM, SHOWERS, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, ADDED HEAT AND AIR TO IT. 
          UM, SO YEAH. 
          SO NEXT WE'RE GONNA GO TO ANOTHER FACILITY WHERE I'LL DEMONSTRATE SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES I HAVE AS OUR SAFETY OFFICER HERE AT DRY STATE PARK. 
          HERE WE ARE AT DRY ANDS GAS STOCK RIGHT NEXT TO OUR TACKLE SHOP. 
          UM, AND HERE I'M GONNA SHOW YOU ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES AS SAFETY OFFICER IS CHECKING ALL OF OUR FIRE EXTINGUISHERS. 
          UM, THIS IS THE BIGGEST ONE WE HAVE ON PARK. 
          IT'S A 20 POUNDER. 
          UM, IT'S RATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE GAS STOCK. 
          AND WHAT WE DO WHEN WE INSPECT A FIRE EXTINGUISHER, UM, IS FIRST YOU TAKE IT OFF ITS STAND AND YOU CHECK THE GAUGE, UM, SEE IF IT'S NOT UNDER OR OVERCHARGED. 
          BUT THE MAIN THING THAT YOU WANT TO CHECK, UM, AS SOMEONE WHO'S NOT A, UM, A CERTIFIED FIRE TECH IS, UM, IF YOU TURN IT UPSIDE DOWN. 
          IF SO, IF THE WEIGHT SHIFTS GRADUALLY, THAT MEANS YOU KNOW THAT THE CONTENTS ISN'T CLUMPED UP TOGETHER. 
          YOU CAN KEEP DOING THAT JUST TO SEE, BUT IF YOU FEEL A BIG PLUMP, THAT MEANS IT'S CLUMPED UP TOGETHER AND IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. 
          UM, AND I DO THIS WITH ALL 42 FIRE EXTINGUISHERS WE HAVE ON PARK, WE HAVE 'EM IN THE CAMPGROUNDS, EVERY FACILITY, OUR CABINS, VILLAS, UM, OUR TACKLE SHOP, AS WELL AS THE GAS DOCK. 
          AND THE MAIN THING IS TO CHECK THAT AND TO CHECK THE CHARGE. 
          AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE DONE, YOU CAN JUST HANG IT BACK UP AND THEN YOU CAN SIGN OFF ON THIS SPECIFIC MONTH, UM, WHICH THIS IS JANUARY. 
          UM, AND I'LL NOTE THAT ONCE A YEAR I HAVE, UM, A CERTIFIED FIRE TECH COME OUT AND HAVE THESE SERVICED. 
          I JUST HAD THIS ONE SERVICED, UM, IN DECEMBER, RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS. 
          SO THIS ONE'S PRETTY MUCH GOOD FOR A WHOLE NOTHER YEAR. 
          UM, ANOTHER ASPECT OF BEING THE SAFEST OFFICER HERE AT DREW ISLAND STATE PARK IS, UM, FACILITY INSPECTIONS, MAKING SURE EVERYTHING'S SAFE, MAKING SURE WE'RE STAYING UP TO DATE ON, UM, SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE ON OUR, UM, HVAC, ON ANYTHING THAT NEEDS IT, LOOKING FOR STRUCTURAL DAMAGE, LOOKING FOR ANYTHING THAT MIGHT NEED REPLACING HER ATTENTION. 
          UM, AND OF COURSE FILING THE, UM, MONTHLY PAPERWORK FOR OUR FIRE EXTINGUISHER INSPECTIONS AS WELL AS THE FACILITIES. 
          UM, SO WE CAN STAY UP TO DATE AND BE OFFICIAL. 
          NEXT, WE'RE GONNA GO AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE LEAK. 
          HERE WE ARE ON OUR MAIN CAUSEWAY BRIDGE HERE AT DREW ISLAND STATE PARK. 
          UM, PERSONALLY THIS IS MY FAVORITE PART ABOUT COMING TO WORK, IS DRIVING ACROSS THIS CAUSEWAY BRIDGE AND LOOKING OUT AT THE LAKE EVERY DAY. 
          UM, AS I SAID EARLIER, THE LAKE'S DOWN PRETTY LOW RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, EVERY WINTER THEY DROP THE LAKE A FEW FEET, BUT THIS YEAR IS THE 10 YEAR LOW. 
          EVERY 10 YEARS THEY DROP THE LAKE SIGNIFICANTLY LOW, UM, TO KILL AN INVASIVE HYDRILLA PLANT AS WELL AS FOR PEOPLE TO WORK ON THEIR DOCKS. 
          AND SINCE THE DAM AND THE TOWERS ARE SO OLD, IT GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO MAINTENANCE THOSE AS WELL. 
          UM, LAKE MURRAY IS 50,000 ACRES, UM, OF MANMADE LAKE ANDRE ISLAND. 
          UM, BENEFITS FROM THIS LAKE HEAVILY. 
          UM, IT BRINGS SO MUCH, SO MANY GUESTS TO OUR PARK. 
          UM, THEY COME TO HANG OUT HERE AT THE SHELTERS. 
          UM, PITCH A HAMMOCK LAY OUT AT THE LITTLE BEACHY AREA WE HAVE AT OUR OLD OFFICE. 
          UM, IT BRINGS A LOT OF VISITORS COME SUMMERTIME. 
          UM, ALSO IN THE SUMMERTIME, UM, BRINGS ALL OF OUR BIG GAME TOURNAMENTS. 
          DREW ISLAND'S KNOWN FOR ALL OF ITS FISHING TOURNAMENTS. 
          WE HAVE 'EM YEAR ROUND JUST ABOUT EVERY WEEKEND. 
          UM, TO HIGHLIGHT ONE BIG ONE, DREW ISLAND GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOST THE WORLD BASS CHAMPIONSHIP WHERE WE HOSTED 25 COUNTRIES, UM, FOR A WEEK AND WATCHED THEM SHOOT OUT EVERY DAY AND COME IN AND SAW THE BIG WEIGH-INS. 
          AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE MANY BIG ONES THAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          UM, THAT'S A BIG JOB FOR OUR OPENING SHIFT HERE AT DREW ISLAND IS TO, UM, DIRECT ALL THE BOATERS FOR THOSE TOURNAMENTS AND, AND PARK 'EM AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HOUSE ALL THOSE FISHERMEN FOR, UH, FOR THOSE TOURNAMENTS. 
          WE HAVE THE BIG BASS, UH, CHALLENGE AND WE HAVE A BUNCH OF SMALL TOURNAMENTS RANGING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 BOATS ALL THE WAY UP TO 150. 
          IF YOU'LL NOTICE, OVER HERE IS OUR FRONT CAMPGROUND, WHICH IS NEWLY RENOVATED. 
          UM, IT RECEIVED, UM, UPGRADES FOR ELECTRICAL, UP TO 50 AMP SERVICE, UM, NEW WATER, AND EVEN ADDED, UH, SEWER HOOKUPS AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, WHEN THIS ONE OPENS UP, HOPEFULLY EARLY SPRING, UM, IT'LL BE OPEN FOR THE GUESTS TO ENJOY A BRAND NEW CAMPGROUND WITH, UM, BRAND NEW FACILITIES. 
          UM, NEXT WE'RE GONNA GO AND WALK THROUGH ONE OF OUR VILLAS AND MAKE SURE IT'S READY FOR A GUEST CHECK-IN HERE WE ARE AT DREW ISLANDS VILLAS. 
          UM, THIS IS VILLA ONE BEHIND ME, BUT WE HAVE FIVE VILLAS, UM, VILLAS ONE, THREE AND FIVE ARE THREE BEDROOMS AND VILLAS TWO AND FOUR ARE TWO BEDROOMS. UM, THESE ARE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, AREN'T INTO THE, THE CAMPING LIFE OR THE TENT LIFE, UM, GLAMPING AS PEOPLE CALL IT. 
          UM, THESE PRICES RANGE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 1 35 A NIGHT TO MAYBE EVEN, UH, AS FAR AS TWO 50 A NIGHT, DEPENDING ON TIME OF YEAR, TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOM. 
          UM, IF IT'S A WEEKEND WEEKDAY OR IF IT'S THE ONLY ONE LEFT. 
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UM, BILL IS ONE AND TWO ARE THE NEWLY REMODELED INSIDE AND OUT, NEW FURNITURE, NEW PAINT FLOORS, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. 
          UM, THERE IS A DOCK BEHIND VILLA ONE. 
          IT IS THE ONLY DOCK THAT WE HAVE, UM, HERE AT THE VILLAS, BUT IT IS A COMMUNAL DOCK. 
          AND THE REASON THAT IT'S ON, IT'S ONLY BEHIND VILLA ONE IS BECAUSE VILLA ONE IS OUR HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE VILLA. 
          UM, BUT ANY VILLA CAN USE THAT DOCK AS THEY PLEASE. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE HERE TO DO A WALKTHROUGH OF THE VILLA, SO IF YOU WANNA FOLLOW ME, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO A WALKTHROUGH AND, UH, I'LL LET YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THAT GOES IN WITH THAT. 
          SO AS YOU'LL SEE, I USED A KEY CARD. 
          UM, THESE ARE NEW TO US. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO INSTALL, UM, KEY CARD LOCKS AT ALL OF OUR VILLAS IN OUR CAMPER CABINS, AS WELL AS THE BATHHOUSES FOR THOSE. 
          UM, MAKES IT EASIER IN CASE, UH, OUR METAL KEYS GET LOST. 
          UM, AND IT'S BEEN A REAL, UH, TREAT TO USE. 
          SO THIS IS THE INSIDE OF VILLA ONE. 
          UM, WHAT I'M IN HERE TO DO IS TO WALK THROUGH IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S READY FOR A GUEST, UM, DOWN TO THE NITPICKY STUFF. 
          UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE, UM, IT WAS CLEANED PROPERLY AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS OUT OF OUR GUESTS WHILE THEY STAY WITH US. 
          SO THEY HAVE THE BEST, UM, EXPERIENCE, UM, TOTAL. 
          SO WE ALWAYS, UH, CHECK THE FIREPLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS GREAT, WHICH IT DOES REMOTE'S PROGRAMMED AND EVERYTHING. 
          I'M TURN THAT BACK OFF BECAUSE IT IS A LITTLE WARM IN HERE. 
          UM, WE TRY TO CHECK EVERY LAMP TO MAKE SURE THAT IT LIGHTS UP. 
          UM, EVERY LIGHT IN THE VILLA WE WANNA MAKE SURE WORKS. 
          THERE'S NO BURNED OUT BULBS. 
          UM, OF COURSE WE, WE CHECK THE TV, MAKE SURE THEY WORK. 
          UM, I'LL DO THAT AS WELL. 
          WE'LL TURN THAT BACK OFF. 
          AND IN THE BATHROOM WE'RE GONNA CHECK AND MAKE SURE ALL THE LIGHTS WORK LIKE THE REST OF THE VILLA. 
          MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE TOWELS HAVE BEEN, UH, PUT IN PROPERLY AND, AND STORED. 
          WE WANNA CHECK THE CLEANLINESS OF THE, UH, THE TUBS AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO DIRT HAIR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD. 
          UM, FLOORS THAT LOOK DECENT. 
          UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE HAVE RUNNING WATER, FLUSH THE TOILETS, YOU KNOW, CHECK BEHIND, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S CLEAN. 
          THEN WE GO IN TO CHECK IN THE FIRST BEDROOM. 
          I LIKE TO DO IT IN A BIG CIRCLE SO I DON'T MISS ANYTHING WALKING THROUGH THESE VILLAS. 
          WE CHECK ALL THE DRAWERS TO MAKE SURE THAT A GUEST DIDN'T LEAVE ANYTHING BEHIND IN A PREVIOUS DAY. 
          MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE WANT TO CHECK UNDER THE BEDS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING UNDER THERE THAT, UM, WOULD CAUSING ISSUE FOR A GUEST. 
          EVERYTHING LOOKS CLEAN. 
          CHECK AROUND IN THE NIGHTSTAND AS WELL. 
          CHECKING THE LAMP. 
          WANNA RUN HER HAND ACROSS THE TABLE? MAKE SURE THERE'S NO DIRT OR CRUMBS LEFT FROM ANY PREVIOUS DAY. 
          WE'RE GOOD. 
          JUST WANNA CHECK THESE LIGHTS RIGHT HERE. 
          MAKE SURE ALL THAT DON'T TURN ON. 
          WE'LL GO OUTSIDE REAL FAST AND WE'LL CHECK THE, UM, PORCH TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD. 
          SURE. 
          THE LIGHTS OUT HERE WORK FOR OUR GUESTS. 
          ALSO DO A VISUAL INSPECTION OF THE FIRE PIT. 
          MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING ON OUR OUTDOOR PATIOS WORK PROPERLY. 
          ONE, TWO, AND THREE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE THIS, UH, OUTDOOR PATIO RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, IT IS A PLAN FOR THE FUTURE TO HAVE THE REST OF THEM INSTALLED. 
          WE'LL GO BACK IN AND FINISH THE WALKTHROUGH. 
          SOMETIMES THERE'S SOME DISHES THAT ARE STILL LEFT IN HERE. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, UM, CLEAN AND IF SO, PUT THEM AWAY, UM, AND WIPE DOWN ANYTHING THAT NEEDS IT. 
          UM, ON THE COUNTERS, WE WANT TO RUN OUR HAND ACROSS THE COUNTER, MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CRUMBS OR ANY RESIDUE STILL LEFT. 
          UM, AS WELL AS CHECKING THE MICROWAVE AS WELL. 
          YOU ALWAYS WANT TO CHECK THE DISH, MAKE SURE 
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THAT THERE'S NO, UM, STUCK ON STAINS OR ANYTHING, ANY KIND OF SPATTER INSIDE THE MICROWAVE. 
          AND CHECKING EVERY CABINET TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE IN THERE AND THAT EVERYTHING'S WHERE IT SHOULD BE RIGHT MIRROR AND EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD IN HERE. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE LAST BEDROOM. 
          ALL RIGHT, NOW THIS WAS THE LAST ROOM IN THE VILLA TO WALK THROUGH. 
          NOW THAT EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD, I'LL RADIO THE OFFICE UP FRONT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE GUESTS CAN CHECK IN. 
          THANKS FOR JOINING ME TODAY HERE AT DRY STATE PARK. 
          I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE OFFICE AND FINISH UP SOME ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF WHERE I HEAD OUT FOR THE DAY. 
          UM, WHAT YOU SAW HERE TODAY WAS JUST A FEW OF THE MANY THINGS WE GET TO DO AND EXPERIENCE HERE AT DREW ISLAND. 
          SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME OUT, ENJOY THE STATE PARKS AND SEE IT FOR YOURSELF. 
          HAND WASHING IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT WAYS YOU CAN KEEP FROM GETTING SICK AND SPREADING GERMS TO OTHERS. 
          DIRTY HANDS SPREAD DISEASE. 
          THIS HANDWASHING DEMONSTRATION WILL SHOW YOU HOW HANDWASHING CAN GET RID OF GERMS AND CHEMICALS THAT GET ON OUR HANDS EVERY DAY. 
          THIS GEL IS LIKE THE GERMS AND CHEMICALS THAT WE GET FROM THINGS WE TOUCH THROUGHOUT THE DAY, LIKE OUR TOYS AND PETS. 
          IF WE THEN RUB OUR EYES, NOSE, OR MOUTH, OR PICK UP SOMETHING TO EAT, THE GERMS OR CHEMICALS CAN GET INTO OUR BODIES AND MAKE US SICK. 
          STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT PEOPLE TOUCH THEIR EYES, NOSE AND MOUTH ABOUT 25 TIMES EVERY HOUR WITHOUT EVEN REALIZING IT. 
          TO GET RID OF THESE GERMS AND CHEMICALS, CDC RECOMMENDS YOU FOLLOW THESE EASY STEPS EVERY TIME YOU WASH YOUR HANDS. 
          WET, LATHER, SCRUB, RINSE AND DRY. 
          WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU THE RIGHT WAY TO DO EACH STEP. 
          FIRST, WET YOUR HANDS WITH CLEAN RUNNING WATER. 
          TURN OFF THE TAP AND APPLY SOAP. 
          THEN LATHER YOUR HANDS BY RUBBING THEM TOGETHER WITH THE SOAP. 
          BE SURE TO LATHER THE BACKS OF YOUR HANDS BETWEEN YOUR FINGERS AND UNDER YOUR NAILS. 
          SCRUB YOUR HANDS FOR AT LEAST 20 SECONDS. 
          IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CLOCK NEARBY, KEEP SCRUBBING UNTIL YOU'VE SUNG THE HAPPY BIRTHDAY SONG TWICE. 
          RINSE YOUR HANDS WELL UNDER CLEAN RUNNING WATER. 
          DRY YOUR HANDS USING A CLEAN TOWEL, ELECTRIC HAND, DRYER, OR AIR. 
          DRY THEM. 
          WASHING YOUR HANDS USING THE STEPS WE JUST DEMONSTRATED IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GET HANDS COMPLETELY CLEAN. 
          LET'S SEE HOW WELL WE GOT RID OF THE GERMS AND CHEMICALS. 
          GREAT. 
          NO MORE GERMS AND CHEMICALS. 
          WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT? GERMS AND CHEMICALS FROM UNWASHED HANDS CAN GET INTO OUR FOODS AND DRINKS WHEN THEY'RE BEING PREPARED OR WHEN WE'RE EATING OR DRINKING THEM, WHICH CAN MAKE US SICK. 
          ALSO, GERMS AND CHEMICALS FROM UNWASHED HANDS CAN BE TRANSFERRED TO OTHER OBJECTS LIKE CELL PHONES, TABLETOPS, OR TOYS, AND THEN TRANSFERRED TO OTHER PEOPLE'S HANDS. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO WASH YOUR HANDS FOLLOWING THESE STEPS, WET, BLATHER, SCRUB, RINSE, AND DRY SO YOU CAN STAY HEALTHY AND HELP KEEP THOSE AROUND YOU HEALTHY. 
          FOR MORE INFORMATION, VISIT CDC.GOV/HANDWASHING.
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