Jan 15, 2025 Beaufort County Transportation Committee

UM, I'M GONNA ASK YOUR AUTO RISE.

WE'LL DO A FLEXIBLE ALLEGIANCE.

CALIN.

I PLEDGE ALL REGI TO, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH CHANCE? ONE NATION UNDER OUR INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR.

R-C-E-S-E-D-O-T CONSTRUCTION.

IT IS CUSTOMARY FOR US TO GO AROUND THE ROOM AND ASK FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE TO, UH, IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.

CHRIS WILL START WITH YOU.

MR. COOK, BUSINESS MANAGER OF ENGINEERING DEPART, UH, BOWER, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING COUNTY.

RUSTY BROAD COUNTY ENGINEERING, AN INTERESTED CITIZEN.

TRACY GRU.

DEBRA, A RC, SOUTH .

UH, JASON FARRELL, AREA MANAGER.

MIKE, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK HOME, BACK TO BEAUFORT COUNTY.

WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE VERY MUCH.

OKAY, SECOND OF ALL, WHILE WE'RE HERE TALKING, UM, THE, UH, LADY THAT IDENTIFIED HERSELF AS AN IN INTERESTED CITIZEN, ACTUALLY IS A LITTLE BIT MORE INTERESTED THAN WE ALL REALIZED.

AND ABOUT, UM, EIGHT DAYS.

SHE'S GONNA BE MY WIFE.

SO I, THAT WASN'T TO BLOOD MAKE YOU, UH, EMBARRASSED, BUT JUST THE SAME.

OUR MEETING MINUTES HAVE BEEN PASSED OUT FOR SEPTEMBER 18TH.

I'LL CHANGE YOUR MIND.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT HAS A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT THEY'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OUR, ON OUR TODAY'S AGENDA? HEARING NONE.

MOVE ON.

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR CORRECTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE MADE? IF NOT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? I MOVE.

I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND, SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

A AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

WE'LL START OFF WITH OLD BUSINESS, TRACY.

COMMISSIONER AND COMMITTEE.

GOOD EVENING,

[5.A. SCDOT DISTRICT PROJECT UPDATE]

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY.

ALRIGHT.

FIRST SLIDE.

WE GOT A FEW, UH, A LOT OF GOOD UPDATES FROM THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE FOR LAND AND ROAD.

UH, IT'S PRETTY MUCH COMPLETED.

UH, THE CONTRACTOR JUST NEEDS TO COMPLETE THE CHIP CEILING PAVING.

AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS BLYTHE AND APAC HAS COME TOGETHER TO WORK.

'CAUSE THERE'S TWO PARTS OF THAT ON THE, ON TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTS.

SO BLYTHE AND APAC HAS COME TOGETHER TO WORK TOGETHER ON THAT.

SO APAC IS GONNA DO THE SURFACE B, UH, WHICH INCLUDES BLYTHE'S PART OF IT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UH, ALLEN CAUSEWAY.

UH, YOU ACTUALLY DID A CHIP AND SEAL.

THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK AND THEY'RE GONNA CHIP SEAL IT.

CHIP SEAL IT, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO PAVE IT.

THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO CONTRACTS.

GONNA PAVE OVER.

APAC WILL, EXCUSE ME.

UH, ALLEN CAUSEWAY.

THAT ONE HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

UH, BLACK'S COMPLETED.

THEY PART OF IT ON THEIR SECTION.

ONE PART THAT BBL HAS, OTHER PART THAT APAC HAS.

SO THE PART THAT BLACK HAS, THEY COMPLETED THE END OF LAST YEAR.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, HOLLY HALL ROAD.

UH, THIS ONE HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

I KNOW THAT WAS ON JENNIFER FOR A WHILE, WONDERING WHEN

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THEY WERE GONNA GET STARTED.

B BLACK COMPLETED IT.

UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS FROM THE RESIDENTS.

THEY LOVE THE WAY THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IS, UH, REALLY GOOD ROAD.

UH, PART OF THIS CONTRACT IS ARCADIA HIGHWAY AND FREEDOM PARKWAY.

UH, JUST TALKING TO JASON ABOUT IT.

THEY JUST DID THE CORING ON THAT AND HOPEFULLY SOMETIME AROUND MARCH, UH, WE'LL LOOK AT MAYBE TRYING TO GET STARTED TENTATIVELY.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THIS IS THE, UH, PAYMENT MARKETS, WHICH IS DISTRICT WIDE.

UH, BUT THIS LIST HERE IS THE ONES FOR, UH, BUFORT.

UH, ALL THE ROADS ON THIS ONE.

THIS LIST HERE HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF ROADS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED OF THE CHARLESTON AREA.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, WE TALKED BEFORE.

ONCE WE GET TO THE END, HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK SOMETIME I HAVE AN IDEA WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND THEN I'LL HAVE MY PROJECT MANAGER COME OUT THERE AND DO SOME, UH, MEASUREMENTS AND WE'LL PUT TOGETHER SOME PRICE TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

BUT WHERE IT'S LOOKING RIGHT NOW LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.

GREAT.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT ADDITIONAL WORK.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

CHARLESTON HIGHWAY.

UH, THIS IS THE PART FOR APAC.

UH, THEY'VE ALREADY PUT UP THE SIGNS AND THEY'RE GETTING READY TO GET STARTED HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH.

UH, PROJECT COMPLETION FOR A LOT OF THESE IS GONNA BE THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

THAT'S A FIVE MILES.

THAT'S A, THAT AND THAT ROAD'S SOME PRETTY BAD CONDITION.

LANDS IN, UH, THIS IS THE OTHER PART OF THE PROJECT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT APAC IS WORKING ON.

SO THEY STARTED THE END OF LAST YEAR.

UH, AND THIS ONE IS, WE'RE HOPING TO GET IT COMPLETED BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER THIS YEAR.

IT MAY BE COMPLETED SOONER.

UM, YEAH, THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY THEY'LL BE WORKING ON THE DRIVEWAYS.

UH, THERE'S LIKE ONE COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY AND TWO RESIDENTIAL.

ARE THERE ANY PROBLEMS GETTING, HAVING CMRB DONE? NO, WE HAVEN'T.

IT JUST HAS TO BE AT THE RIGHT TEMPERATURE.

SO AS WE'RE IN THIS TEMPERATURE HERE, THERE'S A FEW ROWS THEY WANTED TO DO, BUT WE'VE HELD OFF UNTIL WE GET THE RIGHT TEMPS.

THERE WAS TROUBLE AT ONE POINT IN TIME WITH MATERIALS GETTING CON ENOUGH CONCRETE OH, WITH THE CEMENT.

TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK A FEW YEARS AGO BACK DURING THE, UH, WHEN THERE WAS A SHORTAGE AND EVERYTHING.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED THAT.

THAT'S GOOD.

AND THIS IS THE OTHER PART OF, UH, ISLAND CAUSEWAY THAT, UH, APAC IS WORKING ON.

SO FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY, THEY HAVE ACTUALLY COMPLETED SETTING UP SILT FENCING.

UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA DO A ONE INCH MILL AND FILL ON THERE, UH, WIDENING.

AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK WITH INTERMEDIATE, BE SURFACE, UH, AND FINISH UP WORKING ON DRIVEWAYS.

SO HOPEFULLY BY, FROM LOOKING AT APAC SCHEDULE TOWARDS THE END OF FEBRUARY, THEY SHOULD BE FINISHED WITH, UH, ISLAND CAUSEWAY.

AND THIS IS THE LAST ONE HERE.

WE JUST, UH, UH, ISSUED OUT THE NTP ON THIS PROJECT HERE FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL UPGRADES.

THERE'S EIGHT DIFFERENT AREAS AROUND BEAUFORT, UH, INTERSECTIONS.

UH, WM ROEBUCK, NOT SURE IF YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT CONTRACTOR, BUT THEY JUST WON THAT WORK.

UH, THEY'RE LOOKING AT AROUND THE FIRST PART OF MAY, UH, TO START DOING WORK ON THAT.

AND THIS ONE'S SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHED THE END OF DECEMBER.

BUT, UH, ALL THING, ALL THINGS WORK OUT THE RIGHT WAY.

HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE DONE SOONER THAN THAT.

UH, THE LAST THING I HAVE THAT I WANNA MENTION, I DON'T THINK ENOUGH IS CREDIT HAS GIVEN TO THE CONTRACTORS FOR ALL THE WORK AND SUPPORT THEY'VE DONE.

SO I WANNA GIVE SOME ACCOLADES OUT TO BLYTHE WITH JASON FERRELL AND BILL KENARD APAC WITH, UH, BLAKE MARTIN.

UH, AND WITH PETE, WITH DON JACKSON AND DAVID MORTON.

SO THEY'LL WALK, WORK THROUGH A LOT OF ADVERSITY, A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

UH, BUT THEY FOUND WAYS TO WORK AROUND IT.

UH, ESPECIALLY WORKING WITH DOT TRYING TO PROVIDE SAVINGS TO US AND PROVIDE VALUE ENGINEERING IN A LOT OF WAYS.

SO I TAKE MY HAT OFF.

SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO OUR NEEDS, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WHO DID UNDERSTAND WHO WANT THE WORK DONE.

BUT ONCE THE WORK STARTED, THEN THEY WANTED TO KNOW, WELL, WHEN IS IT GONNA BE COMPLETED? SO THEY'RE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN TO PROVIDE A QUALITY PRODUCT.

AND HOLLY HALL IS ONE OF THOSE THAT, THAT WE GOT A LOT, LOT OF GOOD, UH, PHONE CALLS ON ABOUT IT, SO THAT'S GREAT.

YES, SIR.

I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION ON TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

WHERE'S THAT FUNDING COMING FROM FOR YOU? UH, IT'S ON THE FEDERAL SIDE FOR US.

BRIAN? YEAH.

IT COMES OUT DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.

BUT MOST OF IT, IT'S ON THE DOT SYSTEM.

WE'LL PAY FOR IT OUT OF OUR FUND RIGHT.

TAG FUND OR THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ACCOUNT FOR IT.

AND THEN WE'LL GET REIMBURSED BY THE DOT.

ITSELF? YEAH, I KNOW THAT'S CORRECT.

WHAT ABOUT THE FUNDS THAT ARE COMING FROM LAPS THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS AS WELL? THE CARBON REDUCTION, RIGHT.

YEAH, THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, THAT'S COMING.

FEDERAL GRANT THAT'S COMING THROUGH THE STATE.

AND UH, LAST IS GONNA BE RUNNING THAT THROUGH THE THROUGH.

SO WHO'S GOING TO HANDLE THAT FOR DOT ARE YOU GONNA HANDLE? THAT'S FOLKS THAT I HAVE A CONTACT WITH IN COLUMBIA AND THEN WITH JOSH.

SO DISTRICT SIX WILL BE HANDLING THE WORK, THE ACTUAL WORK

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JOSH WILL PROBABLY BE INVOLVED.

AND THEN, UM, HALSTEAD.

HALSTEAD, IT'LL PROBABLY RUN THROUGH HEADQUARTERS AND THEN DISTRICT SIX AND THEN DISTRICT SIX, WHETHER THEY'LL, UH, IT'LL GO THROUGH PROCUREMENT IN COLUMBIA OR WHETHER DISTRICT SIX WILL PUT IT OUT.

AND THEN TRACE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE PORTION SOLD AGAINST THE MASS ONCE IT'S IN THE FIELD.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND I'VE ALREADY ISSUED NTP DECEMBER 2ND.

UH, THAT WAS THE SAME DAY WE HAD THE, UH, PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

JOSH WAS INVOLVED.

UH, MATTER OF FACT, UH, THE SIGNAL GUY JUST REACHED OUT TO ME LAST WEEK 'CAUSE THEY ORDERED SOME EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEEDED FOR REPLACEMENT.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING HOW THIS CIRCLES ALL GOING TO RIGHT.

[5.B. DIRT ROAD PROJECT UPDATE (#55)]

RUSTY.

CHRIS, AM I UP? MS. DEANIE? HOW ARE YOU? GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE.

HOPE YOU'RE ALL WELL.

DIRT ROADS 55.

UH, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A REVIS FROM WHAT YOU HAVE UP THERE.

UH, DOLPHIN WATCH POINT THAT SHOULD BE READY FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR, UH, COMING UP.

UM, DAVIDSON, FLOYD HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS TO ADDRESS WITH THE DOT IN ORDER TO GET OUR PERMITS.

UH, JAMES D. WASHINGTON IS EXPECTED, UH, IN THE SUMMER AFTER THAT.

AND THEN LEO GREEN WILL BE SHORTLY AFTER WASHINGTON.

I GOT IT.

AND OF COURSE, THESE ARE THE BEST CASE SCENARIOS DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER AND PERMITS.

YES, SIR.

JOHN, I HAVE A QUESTION ON JD WASHINGTON.

I SEE HARRIS IS EXPECTED LATE WINTER.

THAT'S, THAT'S UPDATED.

I HAVE THAT, UM, THAT WE'RE EXPECTED THAT IN THE SUMMER.

NOW THAT WAS A THAT I GOT THAT UPDATE TODAY.

I DIDN'T GET IT INTO THE FILE, INTO THE SLIDE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE EXPECTED IN THE SUMMER.

JD WASHINGTON'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS SINCE, UH, EIGHT YEARS AGO.

IT MADE IT, WELL HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET IT IN THIS TIME.

IT MADE IT, IT MADE IT.

AND OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE BEST CASE SCENARIOS DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER AND PERMITS.

SAME THING WITH LEO GREEN TOO, RIGHT? YEP.

LEO GREEN WILL BE, UM, RIGHT AFTER THAT.

THESE ARE DESIGNED BUILD TYPE PROJECTS WHERE THEY'RE DOING JUST NOT GIVING SOMEBODY MONEY TO WORK TO DO IT.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING A DESIGN AS WELL AS DEVELOPING THE PROJECT AND THEN GOING AND DOING THE WORK.

SO IT'S MORE TO IT THAN JUST NCI.

ALRIGHT.

I FOUND I JUST, IT'S BEEN ABOUT EIGHT YEARS NOW.

JD KEEP PUSHING OFF ON ALL, YOU KNOW, END OF THE YEAR, END OF THE YEAR.

AND IT'S STILL, WELL HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET IT DONE STILL.

DIRT ROAD.

IT WILL HAPPEN THIS YEAR FOR SURE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID LAST YEAR.

, WE THINK WE GOT YOU ON CAMERA NOW.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ALONG TO

[5.C. CTC RESURFACING PROJECT (Year 8)]

RESURFACING.

YEAR EIGHT.

YEAR EIGHT RESURFACING, UH, US 2 78 RESURFACING IS OUT TO BID.

THOSE BIDS ARE DUE ON JANUARY 21ST, 2025, AS WELL AS BLUFFTON PARK.

WE RESURFACING.

RESURFACING IS OUT FOR BID.

UM, THOSE ARE DUE ON THE 22ND OF JANUARY.

I SHOULD HAVE MORE OF AN UPDATE ON THOSE FOR THE RETREAT WHEN WE COME BACK OR COME TO THE RETREAT.

MY INTENT IS AT THE RETREAT JUST BEFORE WE DO THE FORMAL RETREAT AND, AND SO ON.

MY INTENT IS TO HAVE A BUSINESS MEETING AND WE'LL HAVE A QUORUM.

SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE WILL REVIEW THESE TWO PROJECTS, REVIEW THE BIDS, AND THEN MOVE 'EM ALONG.

SO THE THIRD MONDAY WHEN PUBLIC FACILITIES ARE ABLE TO APPROVE IT, GET IT TO, UH, COUNCIL THEN FOR APPROVAL.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS ALL DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION.

THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THEY'LL BE THERE.

UM, I HAVE A NOTE HERE THAT MEET AND HUNT.

UH, THE CEI PROPOSAL CAME IN AT 120,000, UM, DOLLARS.

THAT PROPOSAL COVERS ABOUT THREE MONTHS WORTH OF SERVICES FROM THEM.

UH, WE DON'T EXPECT IT TO TAKE THAT LONG, BUT WE DO, UH, UH, THAT LONG.

BUT, UH, WE ARE NEEDING THE, UH, TEMPERATURES TO RISE IN ORDER TO GET STARTED.

UH, WE STILL HAVE, UH, JUNE 1ST DEADLINE IN THE CONTRACT FOR THIS.

UH, AND UH, THEN I WAS HOPING WE COULD GET APPROVAL ON THAT 120,000 FROM YOU TONIGHT TO, UH, GO AHEAD.

AND HOW DID THAT GET MISSED ON THE SCHEDULE? I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS COMING.

LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT THEN.

WHAT ALL IS INCORPORATED IN IT? WHAT'S ALL INCORPORATED, PLEASE? YES.

UH, THEY'RE GOING, THEY'LL DO, UM, ONSITE INSPECTIONS, UH, DAILY INSPECTIONS.

UM, ANY, UH, TESTING

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THEY'LL HAVE AN ON A FULL-TIME INSPECTOR ON THE JOB.

AND THEN PART-TIME, UH, ENGINEER MANAGEMENT, UH, GAVE US, WE, IT'S FOR THREE MONTHS, UM, OF TIME, BUT I DON'T THINK IT, WE SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG.

THIS US 2 78 RESURFACING FROM .

UH, THAT'S THE MISSING PIECE.

SORRY.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW, WHERE DID THIS ALL GET PUT TOGETHER? SO, YEAH.

JUST TWO HIGHWAY 2 78.

IT'S A 2 78.

AND NOW TO BRING EVERYBODY BACK AROUND, WE'VE RECEIVED FUNDING THAT, UH, $5 MILLION, $4.8 MILLION LAST YEAR THAT WE HAD TO SPEND ON 33% ON STATE WORK.

AND THAT STATE WORK WE APPROVE TO PAVE 2 78, UH, STARTING WHERE THE PAVING STOPPED AT THE BRIDGES, GOING TOWARDS HILTON HEAD AND TAKING IT ABOUT AS FAR AS WE CAN WITH A MILLION PLUS DOLLARS.

AND THAT'S WHAT IS OUT TO BID ALSO.

NOW, THIS IS JUST FOR THE INSPECTION PORTION OF THAT WORK, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

ALL, EVERYTHING CIRCLED AROUND.

GOT THE CIRCLES.

SO WITH THAT, THIS IS A CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION, UH, CONTRACT TO DO THE 2 78 WORK, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT BY S-C-D-O-T, HAVE IT INSPECTED.

SO IT'S $122,000.

WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON IT.

CRAIG, THE ORIGINAL MONEY THAT WE APPROPRIATED ON THIS COMMITTEE WAS THE INSPECTION NO.

WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT.

WHY NOT? DIDN'T KNOW THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AT THE TIME.

WE DIDN'T KNOW THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT TO DO THE INSPECTION.

WE DO, WE HAVEN'T FORMALLY APPROVED THE CONTRACT FOR THE WORK EITHER.

THIS IS THE, THE INSPECTION PORTION OF IT AND THEY'RE OUT TO BID FOR THE OTHER WORK.

BUT WE HAD APPROVED SPENDING THE MONEY ON 2 78 IS WHAT APPROVAL WAS ON EVERYBODY.

SEE, OKAY.

ISN'T 2 78 A PRIMARY ROAD? MM-HMM .

I THOUGHT THE 33% HAD TO BE SPENT ON SECONDARY.

NO, NO, NO, SIR.

PRIMARY AND SECONDARY.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE.

THIS, UM, IS FOR THE INSPECTION PORTION OF 2 78.

DO I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? I VOTE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

WE NEED TO GET THAT, UH, IN OUR MOVE IN OUR AGENDA THE NEXT TIME, RUSTY.

UH, PRESERVATION PROJECT.

CTC PAVEMENT,

[5.D. CTC PAVEMENT PRESERVATION PROJECT (Year 8)]

I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THAT.

UM, WE'RE WAITING ON THE REPORT FROM A MT FOR A POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR ANY MICROSURFACING OR CHIP SEAL.

AND THAT SHOULD BE COMING OUT WITH THAT REPORT WE SHOULD BE GETTING SOON.

NEXT ITEM IS REJUVENATOR.

[5.E. CTC PAVEMENT REJUVENATOR UPDATE (Year 8)]

REJUVENATOR.

UM, THAT CAME IN AT 440,000.

UM, I'VE LISTED THE ROADS YOU'LL SEE ON THE SCREEN.

UM, IF YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ARE THREE IN YELLOW.

THOSE ARE TITANIUM OXIDE TREATMENTS.

IT'S AN ADDITIVE.

IT'S A, COMES IN AT $2 AND 30 CENTS A SQUARE FOOT.

UM, IT, WE IDENTIFIED THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE WATER.

UM, AND THEN THE, UH, REC RECITE COMES IN AT A DOLLAR 23 A SQUARE YARD.

UM, A POINT OF DISCUSSION FOR THAT WOULD BE THAT, UM, AT OUR RETREAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UM, THE TITANIUM.

IT'S, UM, CHARLESTON COUNTY DID A LOT OF OF IT AND WE'RE DOING A TEST THIS YEAR WITH IT.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO CAPTURE SOME FUNDS FROM LAPS, UM, ON THE CARBON REDUCTION PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE.

THEY'RE BEEN GIVEN AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND USING THE TITANIUM OXIDE.

IT, UM, IS A PER PREVIEW OF IT.

AND I'LL, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THIS.

IT WAS USED IN AN AREA,

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UH, IN CHARLESTON THAT HAD A SECTION OF ROADWAY WHERE CARS WOULD BACK UP AND BE PARKED FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.

KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE WIND UP WITH ON ONE 70 AND, AND APPROACHES TO THE BRIDGES AND SO ON.

WELL, THEY SPRAY THE TITANIUM OXIDE ON AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT CAPTURES THE CO2 THAT CARS EMIT.

AND SO WE'RE CAPTURING CO2 THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE GOING INTO THE ATMOSPHERE IS BEING TRAPPED AND PUT INTO THE PAVEMENT.

SO THE, UH, PAVEMENT TECHNOLOGY, WE'LL TALK LENGTH ABOUT IT, UH, AT OUR RETREAT.

AND, UM, BUT I, I NEED A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE CTS OR THE, UH, REJUVENATOR CONTRACT OF $440,000.

SO MOVED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY, AYE.

A AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY CAPTURE THE CARBON? UM, IT STAYS IN THE, IN THE ROADWAY AS I UNDERSTAND.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? UM, YEAH, BECAUSE IT CAPTURES, UH, CO2, IT ALSO HAS A, REDUCES THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT AFTER CHARLESTON COUNTY'S DONE A LOT OF THEIR TESTING.

AND IT ALSO, UH, DISSOLVES MICROPLASTICS.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO, UH, EAT LIKE 80% OF MICROPLASTICS FROM THE ROADWAY, UH, UM, TIRES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S GOT MULTIPLE BENEFITS.

UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE CARBON, I THINK IT, LIKE, IT STORES IT AND HAS A CHEMICAL REACTION THAT, UM, MAKES IT, UH, M SORRY, KIM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE RETREAT IN FEBRUARY, I'M SURE WE'LL GIVE A LOT MORE DETAIL.

PROBABLY MORE THAN YOU WANT, BUT THEY'LL GET DOWN THE WE ON IT FOR YOU.

SO WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT IT IS THEY, THEY'VE FOUND AFTER THEY'VE MADE THE SPRAY THAT IT CAN LAST IT'S ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT SEVEN YEARS.

SO IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFIT TO IT.

AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S TWICE THE COST OF RECITE, BUT, UM, IT APPEARS IN ALL WAYS TO BE VERY, A VERY SUCCESSFUL PRODUCT.

UM, CHARLESTON COUNTY GOT WON AN AWARD FROM, UH, NATIONAL AWARD.

I SAW.

YEAH, WELL, THE MOTION IS APPROVED, CONTRACT'S APPROVED, AND IF NEEDS TO BE MOVED ALONE.

GREAT.

I HAVE A QUESTION, SIR.

YEAH, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THIS SOONER.

I'M NOT CHANGING MY VOTE.

I, I NOTICED THAT MARSHALL AND ROAD IS NOT ON THAT LIST.

I DRIVE THAT ROAD EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I REALLY NEEDS SOME WORK.

I CAN, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT, SEE WHERE IT IS ON THE LIST, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW, UM, REPORT COMING OUT.

WE'LL SEE WHERE IT FALLS ON THAT LIST.

AND I CAN ALSO THANK YOU.

TAKE A RIDE ON IT.

ON, ON THE REJUVENATOR.

THIS IS GENERALLY COMING BACK AFTER WE'VE ALREADY PAVED THE ROAD AND , RIGHT? SO IT'S GONNA BE DONE SEVERAL YEARS AFTER A PAVING.

SO IF IT'S ROAD THAT'S IN FOUR SHAPE, THEY WOULD PROBABLY, UH, IF IT'S ON OUR LIST, IT'D BE ON, UH, UPDATING OUR RESERVATION.

YOU SAID IT WAS MARSHLAND, I UNDERSTAND.

IT'S IN, IT'S ALSO TO BE FOUND IN YOUR MANUAL R FIVE YEAR PROGRAM, SO YOU CAN CHECK YOUR FOR YOURSELF TO SEE IF IT'S THERE AS WELL.

ITEM F SC ONE 70 AND THE TRIANGLE UPDATE.

SURE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

YES, CRAIG? MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD WE ASK THE SPEAKERS TO SPEAK UP PLEASE? OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER.

SURE.

AND IS, IS THERE A REASON WHY WE DON'T UTILIZE THE SOUND SYSTEM? I MAY NOT BE CLOSE ENOUGH.

I THINK IT IS, IT IS ON.

IT JUST, IT'S ON.

WELL THEN IT MUST BE JUST ME, I GUESS , BECAUSE I CAN'T HEAR HALF OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING SAID.

IT'S CERTAINLY ON.

AND THE NEXT TWO ITEMS, I'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO HEAR WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND WHEN I HEAR $122,000, I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE REST OF IT.

[5.F. SC 170 & TRIANGLE UPDATE]

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THAT'S GOOD.

THERE WE GO.

I ALMOST NEED TO HOLD IT UP FRONT.

NO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FINE.

THAT'S .

UH, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE.

ALWAYS GREAT TO BE ABLE TO JOIN YOU GUYS AND, AND GIVE SOME UPDATES, AT LEAST ON THE INFORMATION THAT I KNOW.

UM, SO ON SC ONE 70 AND THE TRIANGLE UPDATE, UM, THE, THE BIGGEST PLANS AND WORK THAT ARE INVOLVED THERE IS THERE'S FUNDING, UM,

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IN THE LATS PLAN, IN THE TIP FOR THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING OR AT LEASE FUNDS FOR THAT, FOR THE TRIANGLE.

SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE SALES TAX BEAUFORT COUNTY SALES TAX DID NOT PASS.

WE HAD FUNDING IN THERE FOR THAT PORTION.

OUR PORTION OF THE TRIANGLE JASPER'S COUNTIES DID PASS.

SO, UM, JASPER COUNTY AND THEIR SALES TAX HAD FUNDING FOR ARGENT ROAD AND A SECTION OF US 2 78.

SO I BELIEVE THEIR JASPER COUNTY AND HARDY ARE COORDINATING WITH LATS TO SEE WHAT'S THE BEST WAY FOR THEM TO MOVE THE PROJECT ALONG.

UM, THE HOPE IS THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND WORK ON THE DESIGN FOR ALL OF IT AND LET THE MONEY CATCH UP.

SO AS WE'VE LEARNED WITH ANY LARGE PROJECT IN 2 78 IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.

MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE TAKES A WHILE TO DEVELOP.

UM, SO JUST BECAUSE SALES TAX ISN'T HERE TODAY DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT COULDN'T BE THERE LATER TO HELP BRING THE PROJECT INTO FULL AND FRUITION.

SO THE OVERALL GOAL IS THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN DESIGN THE ENTIRE THING AND THEN GET TO A POINT AND PERMIT THE ENTIRE THING.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING AT THAT TIME, THEN WE COULD PHASE THAT PROJECT AND BUILD WHAT WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS.

SO, UM, IT'S NOT A LOT TO UPDATE, BUT THAT'S IN GENERAL WHERE WE ARE.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THE TEMPORARY WORK, UH, THAT WORK IS CONCLUDED, UM, THERE'S STILL WORKING ON SOME SIGNAGE.

THERE'S TWO OVERHEAD SIGNS CANTILEVERED OVER THE TRAVEL WAY.

UH, ONE ON SC ONE 70 AS YOU'RE APPROACHING 2 78 TO MAKE SURE YOU GET IN THE RIGHT LANE TO GO ON THE RAMP.

AND THEN ONE ON 2 78 WESTBOUND AS YOU'RE APPROACHING THE, THE EXIT TO ONE 70 TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO LANES YOU CAN EXIT OFF OF ONE 70 VERSUS JUST THE ONE STACKING LANE.

UM, SO THAT WHERE THEY'RE WORKING ON THE FOUNDATIONS NOW, UM, AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL REGULAR SHOULDER SIGNS, THE FLAT SIGNS THAT YOU SEE.

AND SO HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, WE WILL HAVE MAYBE A MONTH AND A HALF HAVE THOSE OVERHEAD SIGNS FOR ADDITIONAL AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE TEMPORARY PROJECT.

ONE LAST THING ON A TEMPORARY PROJECT, UM, THE ENGINEER, SO AS PART OF THE TEMPORARY PROJECT, NOT ONLY INCLUDED THE RAMP AND THE INTERCHANGE, BUT ALSO THE SIGNALS UP AT ARGENT AND, UH, 4 62 AND WE ADDED THE SIGNAL AT OLD FIELD.

SO SINCE WE'VE ADDED THAT, UM, THE ENGINEERS BACK IN TOWN AND DOING SOME TIMINGS RIGHT NOW, AND SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT DATA BACK, THEY'RE GOING TO SUGGEST, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL TIMING UPDATES TO, TO REALLY ENHANCE WHAT WE HAVE.

AND THAT'LL BE THE LAST MAJOR TWEAK THAT WE CAN ENHANCE, UM, IN THAT REGION.

WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS PHASE, THAT WAS THE SHORT TERM TASKS WE HAD TO COMPLETE, CORRECT? THE INTERMEDIATE AND LONG TERM? YES.

SO OVERALL, UM, LATS HAD PREPARED AN ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN ON ONE 70.

UM, WE ALREADY, HARDY HAD DONE A PLAN ON ARGENT BOULEVARD.

BEAUFORT COUNTY IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON FINALIZING THE PLAN ON 2 78, WHICH IS THE THREE ROADS OF THE TRIANGLE.

UM, BUT ON ONE 70 ITSELF, THE ELEMENTS THAT WE ARE COMPLETED IN THE SHORT TERM ARE THE SHORT TERM PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THAT PLAN.

THE NEXT STAGE IS MIDTERM AND LONG TERM, WHICH IS THE EVENTUAL OVERALL IMPROVEMENTS.

SO, QUESTION, COMMENT, THANK YOU FOR INFORMING ME THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THE SIGNING UP FOR THE WESTBOUND DOUBLE RIGHT? UH, FOR THE LAST MONTH OR SO.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF HORNS AND TOLD ME I WAS NUMBER ONE WHEN I STAY IN THAT LANE TO MAKE THE RIGHT.

YEAH, YOU'RE SMART.

YOU'RE JUST GAMING THE SYSTEM.

BUT SOON EVERYBODY WILL, WILL UNDERSTAND THE RULES WITH THE SIGNAGE APPROPRIATE.

WELL, I DON'T, SO BECAUSE I'M GETTING TIRED OF BEING TOLD .

SOME IDEA WHERE THE BRIDGES ARE GOING.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, WE'LL MAKE THIS AN EASY ONE TODAY.

LET'S GIVE

[5.G. HILTON HEAD BRIDGES UPDATE]

SO THIS ONE ACTUALLY HAS MORE UPDATE TO PROVIDE.

LAST TIME I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF AN UPDATE, UM, BUT THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS TAKING PLACE.

SO THE BIG ACTION, UM, CATCH UP WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND WHERE IT'S GOING AND WHAT'S TAKEN PLACE.

UM, SO SINCE JUNE OF LAST YEAR, THE TOWN GAVE THEIR MUNICIPAL CONSENT AND THEN THE NEXT ACTION WAS THE FUNDING COMPONENT.

UM, SALES TAX FAILED.

WE HAD $90 MILLION, UH, TO HELP SHORE UP OUR $190 MILLION SHORTCOMING ON THE PROJECT.

SO SINCE IT FAILED THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANKS SENT US A FRIENDLY LETTER ASKING WHAT OUR PLAN WAS OR HOW WE WERE GOING TO OVERCOME THAT SHORTFALL.

SO WE HAD A MEETING THERE,

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UH, IN COLUMBIA WHERE WE ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL TIME.

THEY GAVE US 15 DAYS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN AND 150, $190 MILLION.

SO WE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL TIME TO DEVELOP THAT PLAN, UH, AND ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION TILL MARCH 31ST.

SUBSEQUENTLY, UM, OR ACTUALLY JUST BEFORE THAT, THAT IN-PERSON MEETING, DOT HAD SENT A LETTER TO THE COUNTY AND SAID THAT THEY NEED ALSO NEED A RESPONSE, UH, FROM THE COUNTY ON HOW WE PLAN TO ADVANCE THE PROJECT BY MARCH 31ST, THE SAME DATE, UM, OR THEY WILL HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR OWN PROJECT TO REPLACE THE ONE SPAN THAT'S IN NEED OF REPAIR.

OH.

SO, UM, THERE IS A HARD STOP DECISION POINT THAT IS REQUIRED, UM, BY MARCH 31ST.

SO WHAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY? LAST WEEK, THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD HOSTED A US 2 78 WORKSHOP MEETING WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT IT, UM, AND THE COUNT THE TOWN'S PERSPECTIVE ON THE PROJECT.

UM, AT THAT MEETING, SENATOR DAVIS, UH, HE HAD WRITTEN A LETTER, UM, WITH THE, UM, BACKING OF THE OTHER LEGISLATORS THAT REPRESENT THE AREA.

THE, SO THE FOUR REPRESENTATIVES IN THE HILTON HEAD BLUFF IN THE AREA COLLECTIVELY ON PROPOSING AN ALTERNATIVE THAT, UM, BASICALLY HOW DO YOU CREATE A PROJECT WITH THE MONEY THAT YOU HAVE.

SO ESSENTIALLY THERE'S $300 MILLION THAT IS IN THE BANK FOR THE PROJECT, AND IF THERE WAS A WAY TO BUILD SOMETHING WITH THAT VERSUS TRYING TO BUILD EVERYTHING WITH THE MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

SO THAT SOLUTION ESSENTIALLY WAS BUILD, UM, A NEW EASTBOUND ONLY LANE.

THAT'S A BRIDGE THAT'S THREE LANES.

SO FROM BLUFFTON TO HILTON HEAD, IT'S A COMPLETELY NEW SPAN, UM, AND RETAIN THE TWO WESTBOUND LANES.

AND WHAT THAT WOULD CREATE IS A FIVE LANE CORRIDOR INSTEAD OF A SIX LANE.

UH, I THINK WE ALL CAN AGREE THAT IN THE MORNING, THE MORNING TRAFFIC IS WORSE THAN THE AFTERNOON TRAFFIC GETTING OFF THE ISLAND.

SO THAT WAS THE PREMISE OF THAT PROPOSAL.

AND THAT COMES IN, UM, ROUGHLY AROUND THE $300 MILLION THAT WE HAVE.

SO, UH, THE NEXT STEP IS COUNTY COUNCIL IS PLANNING THEIR OWN WORKSHOP SIMILAR TO HILTON HEADS WORKSHOP LAST WEEK.

OURS IS FOR NEXT TUESDAY, THE 21ST, UH, AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THIS ROOM.

IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING.

SO IF ANYBODY CARES TO JOIN EITHER IN PERSON OR ONLINE, FEEL FREE TO JOIN IN.

AND WE WILL HAVE A SIMILAR DISCUSSION AT COUNTY COUNCIL AT THAT WORKSHOP ABOUT, UM, THOSE DISCUSSIONS WHERE WE'RE ON THE PROJECT.

AND OF COURSE SENATOR DAVIS ALTERNATIVE.

I THINK WHERE THE PROJECT'S GOING IS THERE'S GONNA BE SOME COORDINATION BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN, UM, IF THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE DECISION.

I THINK SO FAR THE, THE HEAD NODS FROM BOTH COUNCILS IS THERE'S NOT AN APPETITE TO ADD FUNDING TO THE PROJECT TO MAKE THAT $190 MILLION, UH, SHORTFALL.

AND THEN IF SO, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PETITION THE SIB AND DOT TO KEEP THEIR FUNDING IN A REMO A MODIFIED PROJECT.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE THE DISCUSSION'S GONNA FOCUS AND IF SO, THEN UM, WE WOULD TRY TO HAVE THAT ALL CRAFTED AND MAKE THAT RESPONSE TO BOTH THE SIB AND DOT AHEAD OF THAT MARCH 31ST DEADLINE.

SO I KNOW THAT'S A LOT TO LOT TO THINK THROUGH, BUT THAT'S KIND OF IN A NUTSHELL WHERE WE ARE ON 2 78 QUESTIONS.

I JUST HAVE A QUE SO THE, THE COUNTY APPROVED THIS PROJECT, THE TOWN GAVE MUNICIPAL CONSENT.

WE'VE GOT A, THROUGH THAT LETTER WITH DAVIS, WE'VE GOT A PROJECT THAT WORKS APPARENTLY.

WHAT, WHAT OTHER APPROVALS? WHY DO WE NEED ADDITIONAL APPROVALS? 'CAUSE IT'S CHANGED.

I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ADDITIONAL, YOU GOTTA, YOU'RE GOING BACK AGAIN FOR MORE APPROVAL.

SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO APPROVAL WITH SIB.

THEY'RE THE, THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK.

SO THE AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY HAS THE AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK AND THE AGREEMENT IS BASED OFF THE APPLICATION THAT WE SUBMITTED, WHICH CALLED FOR A SIX LANE BRIDGE, UM, FOR THE FULL ST EXTENT.

AND THEY, THEY GAVE CONTRIBUTED $120 MILLION TO THE PROJECT ALSO IN THAT AGREEMENT.

HAD SOME, HAD SOME RESTRICTIONS ON TIME, UH, TO DELIVER THE PROJECT AS WELL AS, UM, TIME AND MONEY OR THE TWO COMPONENTS.

AND SO NOW WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE SIB.

IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT ALTERNATIVE

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AND SAY, WE ARE BUILDING SOMETHING LESS THAN WHAT WE TOLD YOU, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO RETAIN THE MONEY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO THE PROJECT.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR MORE MONEY, BUT WE ARE BUILDING SOMETHING JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOWED YOU INITIALLY.

SO THAT'S, I GET THAT, BUT WHY DOES THE TOWN HAVE TO BE INVOLVED? SO THE TOWN IS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT COMPONENT.

THE TOWN'S JUST DISCUSSING THE PROJECT, UH, AND THEY GAVE THEIR THOUGHTS THE, THE TOWN'S DISCUSSION, UH, REALLY, AND THERE WAS SOME GOOD INTERACTION IN THAT WORKSHOP THAT'S ONLINE AND AVAILABLE TO WATCH, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN SEEN IT.

FIRST WAS, IS THERE ANY APPETITE LOCALLY FROM THE TOWN TO RAISE A PORTION OF MONEY TO PUT TOWARDS THE SHORTFALL? AND BY A SHOW OF HANDS, THERE WASN'T MUCH APPETITE FROM TOWN COUNCIL.

COUNTY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY HAD AN ACTION, UH, WHERE THEY WERE NOT GOING TO ISSUE ADDITIONAL DEBT OUTSIDE OF THE SALES TAX FOR THE 90 MILLION ON THEIR SIDE.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY INTERACTION WITH THE TOWN, RIGHT THERE IS THE LEVEL OF, UM, COMFORT WITH ADDING MORE FUNDS TO THE PROJECT, BUT THE AGREEMENT IS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND AND STATE.

SO LONG STORY SHORT, UM, IF THE S CIB IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE MODIFIED, THAT'S THE ONLY AGREEMENT REQUIRED TO MOVE THAT PROJECT, UM, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO COORDINATE WITH DOT ON OUR ARRANGEMENT.

WE HAD, THE COUNTY HAS AN ARRANGEMENT WITH DOT HOW WE ADMINISTER THE PROJECT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, UPDATED.

AND THEN THE MOA THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE TOWN AND SENT TO THE COUNTY FOR APPROVAL NOW IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY THE CONCEPT OF THE PROJECT.

SO THAT PART WOULD NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUMMARY THERE.

I, GREG, A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

WHAT, WHAT IS THE COST NOW IF THE DEPARTMENT DECIDES TO PROCEED WITH THE EASTBOUND BRIDGE? JUST REPLACING THE ONE SPAN? YES.

$90 MILLION.

REMEMBER, I THINK IT STARTED OUT AT 40, NOW IT'S 90.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, HAS THERE BEEN ANY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK ON THE CHANGE IN SCOPE AND REALLY THE KEY PART AND THE MOST AMUSING PART IS KEEPING THE MONEY FOR THE ORIGINAL PROJECT.

SO OUR REPRESENTATIVES HAVE BEEN REALLY HELPING US OUT WITH THAT AND INTERACTING WITH THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK.

AND SO BASED OFF THEIR, UH, DISCUSSIONS, UM, SENATOR DAVIS FEELS COMFORTABLE THAT THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST SOME INTERACTIONS, THAT'S NOT THE WHOLE BODY AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE WHOLE BODY OF THE BANK FOR A DECISION.

AND WE ALL DO REALIZE THAT MEMBERS OF THE S CIB COME FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THIS STATE AND DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND WHATEVER.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THEY JUST LOVE, LOVE CHANGES.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW.

WELL, SO IN ESSENCE, UH, THE GRANT, UH, THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE AS A CONTRACT, AND SO THE REASON WE HAVE TO GO BACK IS BECAUSE WE ARE OUT OF CONTRACT WITH SOME OF THE DATES IN THERE AND NOW THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT IS IF IT'S CHANGED, IS OUT OF THE CONTRACT AS WELL.

SO YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT, THE BANK IS MADE UP OF, OF DELEGATION THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE INPUTS.

I'M SURE CHARLESTON COUNTY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT 120 MILLION COME BACK.

I THINK A LOT OF COUNTIES WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FUNDS FOR THEIR PROJECTS.

MY LAST QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY INDICATION AFTER THE LAST MEETING OF TOWN COUNCIL THAT THE POSITION OF HILTON HAD HAS CHANGED, CHANGED IN WHAT MANNER THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER GONNA SUPPORT THE PROJECT AND YOU'VE ALREADY SAID THEY'RE NOT GONNA ADD ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S A REAL HORNET'S NEST ON THE TOWN COUNCIL RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHERE TO GO WITH THIS THING IF WE WANT TO GO ANYWHERE AT ALL.

I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS AROUND SENATOR DAVIS'S ALTERNATIVE WERE IN GENERAL POSITIVE AT TOWN COUNCIL.

AGAIN, I WAS THERE AS A, A SPECTATOR IN THE AUDIENCE, UM, AND IT'S THERE ONLINE FOR YOU TO KIND OF CHECK YOURSELF, BUT, UM, I THINK SINGLE MEMBERS DEFINITELY HAVE HESITATIONS, BUT AS A BODY IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS AN IDEA THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THEY COULD GET BEHIND.

I LISTENED TO IT ONLINE AND I

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THERE'S A, THERE'S TWO PEOPLE ON TOWN COUNCIL THAT AREN'T GONNA BE HAPPY WITH ANYTHING.

I JUST, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I'M SURPRISED AT THAT .

NO, NO YOU'RE NOT.

NO, YOU'RE NOT.

THERE'S, THERE'S TWO PEOPLE THAT THERE, THEY, IT COULD BE, YOU COULD GIVE THEM GOLD, IT WOULDN'T MAKE 'EM HAPPY.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT DID THE CONSENSUS I SAW AND, AND LISTENING TO IT AND, AND TRYING TO BE OBJECTIVE BECAUSE I'M NOT IN THE ROOM, I, I WAS ABLE TO REALLY HAVE A BETTER DIFFERENT FEELING OF THE WHAT WAS GOING ON, THE GIVEN INTAKE OF IT.

AND IT APPEARED TO ME THAT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS WAS THEY HAD BOUGHT INTO SENATOR DAVIS'S IDEA AND IT WAS GONNA MOVE FORWARD.

CHARLES, YOU'RE NEXT.

THIS IS, THIS IS A, UH, A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THE EA JAR.

UH, YOU, YOU'VE GOT A FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT PROJECT THAN YOU STARTED OUT WITH AND ALTHOUGH I IMAGINE SOME OF THE DATA CAN BE USED, UM, I WAS WONDERING, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THAT RESTARTS EEA PROCESS AND IF SO, WHAT'S THE TIME IMPACT ON PROJECTED START OF CONSTRUCTION? YES.

SO, UM, IF WE MODIFY THE PROJECT, IT WILL, IT WILL CHANGE THE DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT.

UM, BUT WITH DOT AS OUR HELP, AS OUR MANAGER COORDINATING WITH FEDERAL HIGHWAY, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS, UM, BOTH WITH SENATOR DAVIS'S PLAN AND WITH ANY OTHER PLAN THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY START OVER.

IT WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE A MODIFICATION.

UM, AND THE OVERALL GOAL AND INTENT FROM DOT IS TO HAVE THE PROJECT, UH, OUT TO BID IN THE 27, UH, 2027.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR GOAL, WHETHER IT'S THE, UH, FULL PROJECT, WHETHER IT'S THE MODIFIED PROJECT OR WHETHER IT'S THE STANDALONE, UM, BUILD THE ONE SPAN PROJECT.

HAVE, HAVE YOU HAD ANY REACTION FROM DOT TO DAVIS'S PROPOSAL? I THINK THEY'RE, SO I THINK WHAT DOT MOST WANTS TO SEE IS THE SINGLE SPAN REPLACED, UM, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

SO WHATEVER PROJECT DELIVERS THAT, UM, AND THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGER THE PROJECT, IF IT CAN RE, IF IT CAN REPLACE ALL FOUR, THEN THAT WOULD BE WHAT THEY WOULD FAVOR.

BUT IF IT REPLACES TWO OUT OF FOUR, I THINK THEY WOULD STAND BEHIND THAT AS WELL.

BLESS.

IS THAT SINGLE BRIDGE $90 MILLION ALL DEPARTMENT FUNDS NOW OR WILL THAT BE YES.

SO IF IT WAS A, JUST A SINGLE REPLACEMENT.

UM, THEY HAVE THE $90 MILLION ALLOCATED FROM DEPARTMENT FUNDS TO DO THAT IN THE STATE RIDGE REPLACEMENT, BUT IT'S ALL DEPARTMENT MONEY.

IF, IF IT WAS A SOLELY A SINGLE REPLACE THE ONE SPAN, YES.

IT, IT IS BEEN THAT THEIR, THEIR CONTRIBUTION FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT IS ONLY ALLOCATED TOWARDS THAT BRIDGE.

HOWEVER, HOW MUCH THAT BRIDGE IS, THAT'S HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE IN WHATEVER SIZE PROJECT IT HAS.

WELL, I WAS TRYING TO RECONCILE 40 MILLION TO 90 MILLION MM-HMM .

SO IT, IT HAS GROWN OVER TIME AND THEY'VE ADDED TO IT THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.

UH, INITIALLY IT WAS 40 MILLION AND THEN IT WENT TO 65 MILLION, THEN IT WENT TO 75 MILLION AND NOW THEY'VE PRICED IT AS 90 MILLION AS THE STANDALONE PROJECT.

UNBELIEVABLE.

BECAUSE THAT WAS A SAFETY PROJECT.

UNBELIEVABLE.

CORRECT.

AND THAT'S WHY THERE WAS MONEY READILY AVAILABLE.

CORRECT QUESTION.

YES.

IT'S WORTH $90 MILLION.

UH, WHAT'S THE, WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT ON, ON THE LOCAL CHANGES ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND AT THE EAST END OF THE BRIDGE OF THE NEW BRIDGE? YEAH, SO THAT WAS PART OF SENATOR DAVIS'S PLAN.

HE SAID, UM, THAT BASICALLY YOU'D HAVE A NEW EASTBOUND BRIDGE THAT WOULD BE THREE LANES AND THEN THE TOWN AND COUNTY Y'ALL NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE REST OF THE ROAD WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND HIS SUGGESTION WAS THAT Y'ALL NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT LOCALLY BEFORE YOU SUBMIT SOMETHING BACK TO THE SIB.

SO YOU CAN SAY THAT YES, THE 300 MILLION WILL DO FROM POINT A TO POINT B AND IT WILL LOOK LIKE THIS.

UH, ESSENTIALLY THOUGH, UH, I THINK THE SHORT PART OF IT IS THAT THEY WOULD CONTINUE THREE LANES ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE FIVE LANES FOR THE ENTIRE SECTION.

SO , I'M JUST WAITING FOR THAT TO COME OUT OF THE TOWN.

OKAY, THANKS.

I JUST WANNA ADD A LITTLE LIGHT NOTE THAT MAYBE HILTON HAD WILL COME BACK TO THEIR OLD PROPOSAL FROM, I GUESS IT MUST BE ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS TO LIMIT PEOPLE COMING ONTO HILTON HAT ISLAND AND LEAVE THE BRIDGE, MAYBE EVEN NARROW IT, YOU KNOW, TAKE OUT A LANE OR TWO AND MAKE IT A TALL BRIDGE.

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THANK PRICE, CONGESTION, PRICE.

YEAH, THIS, YEAH, I MEAN THEY WERE, WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY WE WANT.

WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR, YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU GUYS.

ITEM

[5.H. UPDATE STATUS 500-2000 ADT PROGRAM]

H UPDATE STATUS ON 500 TO 2080 DT PROGRAM.

RIGHT? UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, SO JUST RUSTY TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THESE ITEMS EARLIER.

SO JUST, UH, JUST FOLLOW UP.

SO THE 502,000 A DT PROGRAM, A MT IS WORKING TO GET US THOSE UPDATED PROGRAMS AND BID QUANTITIES.

WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT IN THE NEXT, UH, WEEK OR TWO TO PUT THOSE OUT OUT OF BID.

UM, SO WE'LL MOVE ON WHEN WE GET THAT, UH, BLUFFTON

[5.I. BLUFFTON PARKWAY RESURFACING AND 278]

PARKWAY AND RESURFACING IN 2 78.

WE WILL GET THOSE BIDS BACK NEXT WEEK.

SO AS LONG AS WE HAVE RESPONSIVE BIDS ON THOSE, WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU AT THE RETREAT ON THE FIFTH, UM, FOR Y'ALL APPROVE FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE TO PFC LATER IN UH, FEBRUARY.

AND THEN, SO ITEM J IS THE STATUS OF BERKS BEACH AND GOTHE ROAD.

[5.J. STATUS OF BURKE’S BEACH AND GOETHE ROAD TO MUNICIPALITIES]

UM, SO I'LL START, START WITH GOTHE ROAD THERE.

WE'VE, UH, GONE AROUND THE WAY WITH THAT ONE A COUPLE DIFFERENT TIMES.

UM, MOST RECENTLY WAS IN NOVEMBER.

UH, WE PUT IMPROVEMENTS OUT FOR THAT ONE.

UM, AND WE RECEIVED NO BIDS.

SO THAT ONE IS, UH, WE'VE DONE SOME TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENTS.

WE PUT SOME, UH, TEMPORARY SPEED HUMPS OUT THERE FOR THE TRAFFIC CALMING.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT, MAYBE, UH, TACKING IT ONTO A LARGER PROJECT IN THE AREA.

UM, SO ONCE WE CAN FIGURE A PATH FORWARD ON GOTHE, WE WILL RESTART THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWN ON THAT ONE.

UM, ON BERKS BEACH OVER ON HILL AND HEAD.

SO THERE'S BEEN A GOOD BIT OF CHANGES IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OVER ON HILL AND HEAD AS WELL.

SO THEY HAVE, UH, APPOINTED A NEW DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING, WHICH I WILL BE MEETING WITH NEXT WEEK.

AND I WILL BRING UP BERKS BEACH AND THE SURROUNDING ROADS, UM, IN THAT CONVERSATION NEXT WEEK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME TO TERMS WITH ON, ON THOSE ONES.

SO IN THE PAST, THE ADMINISTRATOR HAS HAD GREAT INTEREST IN IT.

AND WHILE YOU'RE TALKING TO HIM ABOUT BERKS BEACH, I'D LIKE TO THROW A BONE TO THEM ALSO ABOUT ARROW ROAD.

ARROW ROAD IS ONLY LIKE A THOUSAND FEET.

IT GOES FROM, UM, NEW ORLEANS UP TO 2 78.

THAT'S THE ONLY SECTION THAT WE OWN.

YES, SIR.

THEY OUGHT TO OWN THAT SECTION AND THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO THE STREET, STREET SCAPES AND WHATEVER THEY WANT IN THAT SMALL SECTION.

THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO OWN THAT ROAD.

I'LL BRING THAT UP TO 'EM AS WELL AND WE'LL, UH, HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND, UH, WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AS, UM, AS WELL.

SO QUESTIONS ON THOSE THREE ITEMS? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NEW

[6.A. CTC RETREAT FEBRUARY 5TH, 2025]

BUSINESS.

UM, I STARTED TALKING A LITTLE EARLIER ABOUT, UM, WHAT'S GONNA OCCUR ON FEBRUARY THE FIFTH.

THE, I'LL PUT OUT AN AGENDA FOR US, UM, IF I'M REELECTED I GUESS I SHOULD SAY.

BUT, UH, I'LL HELP, WE'LL HAVE A NEW A, UH, AGENDA.

THE AGENDA WILL START AT NOON FROM 12 TO UH, ONE WILL LUNCH WILL BE SERVED AND BOOKING AROUND THE ROOM.

WE'VE DONE JIM AND NICKS IN THE PAST.

IS THAT, DOES THAT KIND OF MEET EVERYBODY'S TASTE BUDS? I KNOW JENNY LIKES JIM AND NICK'S.

I MEAN, I'M NOT, IF OTHER PEOPLE WANT SOMETHING ELSE, I'M .

WE CAN GO VEGAN AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST NO, WE'RE NOT GOING DOWN THAT.

I MEAN, I I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE BARBECUE.

WE'RE NOT GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.

NO.

WE'LL SET THAT UP AND THEN THE MEETING WILL START AT ONE O'CLOCK AND WE'LL HAVE, UM, PAVEMENT TECHNOLOGY AND SLURRY PAVERS IN TO MAKE PRESENTATIONS ALSO.

AND WE'LL HAVE A SMALL PORTION OF BUSINESS MEETING WORKING ON CONTRACTS, APPROVING CONTRACTS AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

SO WITH THAT, THAT KIND OF ADDRESSES IT.

ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT'S THE ADDRESS THERE TO RICHARD? IT'S AT THE, UM, BUCK WATER, BUCK RECREATION CENTER WHERE WE'VE HAD IT IN THE PAST.

THANK YOU FOR ASKING.

UM, WHAT TIME DO YOU EXPECT THAT MEETING TO RUN THAN 10? PROBABLY THREE TO THREE 30 AT THE LATEST.

HISTORY ON CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN, UM, CRAIG AND I ARE THINK THE ONLY TWO THAT ARE THE LONG TERM MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

UM,

[6.B. ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN]

GOING BACK TO WHEN, WHEN IT STARTED LIKE NINE YEARS AGO WHEN IT GOT REFORMED AND WHEN, UM, WE DRAFTED THE, OUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

WE'VE KEPT IT CONSISTENT EVERY YEAR THAT, UM, THE CHAIRMAN GETS ELECTED EVERY YEAR, AND I'M GIVING YOU THE HISTORY OF

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THE CHAIRMAN GETS ELECTED EVERY YEAR AND IT'S DONE.

IF THE CHAIRMAN HASN'T DONE A GOOD JOB, YOU NEED TO GET RID OF HIM AND FIND SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO THE JOB.

SO THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ANY MORE TERMS IN WHAT LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

SO WITH THAT SAID, I, I WILL ACCEPT NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIRMAN I NOMINATE CRAIG FOR.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, VICE CHAIRMAN HAS BEEN BY VOTE IN THE PAST AND, UM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE, WILL BE HAPPENING, UH, IN THE FUTURE.

UH, I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION THAT, UH, ART BE CONSIDERED THE VICE CHAIRMAN AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO GO ON.

DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? SECOND.