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          CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY, TUESDAY, JANUARY 14TH, 2025. 
          [1. Call to Order
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I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER IF YOU'LL JOIN IN STANDING AND SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, TO LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. 
          ALL. 
          IF YOU'LL CONTINUE STANDING WHILE WE SAY THE INVOCATION, FATHER MICHAEL OBR FROM ST. 
          FRANCIS CATHOLIC CHURCH AND FATHER AND SON, THE HOLY SPIRIT. 
          AMEN. 
          HOW MANY FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD SEND YOUR SPIRIT UPON THIS BODY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, UNDERSTANDING, AND COUNSEL. 
          AND THEY MIGHT SEE THEMSELVES AS SERVANT LEADERS AND ALWAYS SEEK TO DO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE IN PURSUIT OF THE COMMON GOOD. 
          WE ASK THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON, AMEN. 
          FATHER AND SON, THE HOLY SPIRIT. 
          AMEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO MOVING ON MR. ORLANDO. 
          [4. Adoption of the Agenda]
DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, CHANGES TO THE AGENDA TODAY? NO, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT. 
          DO THE AGENDA. 
          YOU HAVE A FIRST, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          YOU HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO. 
          NEXT WE HAVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 3RD. 
          [5. Approval of the Minutes ]
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          IS THERE, WE GOT A FIRST AND A SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFIED BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO. 
          UM, GENERAL REPORTS FROM 
          [6. Reports from Members of Town Council]
TOWN COUNCIL. 
          UM, I'LL GO FIRST. 
          I WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT, UM, TOMORROW I'LL BE HEADING TO WILD DUNES TO BE, UH, INAUGURATED TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE SOUTH CAROLINA BEACH ADVOCATES BOARD. 
          AND THEY HAVE A CONVENTION THAT IS GOING ON OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS TO ADDRESS ALL THINGS BEACHES. 
          SO, UM, SHOULD BE A, A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN SOME INFORMATION, UH, FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHO ARE PART OF THIS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2014. 
          UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD A REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS COMMITTEE OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS AND, UH, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO BE ON THERE. 
          AND, UH, WE WILL ACTUALLY BE MAKING A PRESENTATION THROUGH JEFF INGER, UM, TO THE, TO THE GROUP ABOUT BE TREE NOURISHMENT AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE GOING THROUGH HERE ON HILTON HEAD. 
          UM, LASTLY, I I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT ALL THE DISASTERS THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN THIS COUNTRY OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS FROM NORTH CAROLINA TO CALIFORNIA AND BEYOND, UM, WE NEED TO KEEP THEM AT OUR PRAYERS AND ALSO HAVE A, A THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS FOR OUR RESILIENCY AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS A COUNCIL, UM, AND, AND AS WE DISCUSS RESILIENCY. 
          SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT WE, WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING, UM, OURSELVES IN A WAY THAT'S REALISTIC. 
          SO, WITH THAT SAID, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY, UH, OTHER GENERAL REPORTS? MS. BRYSON? YES, SIR. 
          UM, IN LIGHT OF THE COLD WEATHER WE'VE HAD RECENTLY, I WANTED TO PARTICULARLY THANK FIRE AND RESCUE, ESPECIALLY, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGER TOM DUNN, UM, CHRIST LUTHERAN CHURCH AND THE COMMUNITY FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A WARMING SHELTER. 
          UM, WE HOPE THAT WE WOULD NEVER NEED SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE HAVE BEEN NEEDING THAT AND I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THEM FOR THOSE GOOD EFFORTS FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          ALSO WANNA RECOGNIZE CAPTAIN AM AND THE SEA TURTLE PATROL WHO'VE BEEN LOOKING AFTER OUR, OUR SEA TURTLES, UH, BEING COLD STUNNED AS WELL. 
          SO I WANNA SALUTE TO THE SEA TURTLE PATROL AS WELL, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM MORE IN THE FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          ANY OTHER GENERAL REPORTS? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, UH, MR. ORLANDO REPORT OF 
          [7. Presentations and Recognitions]
THE TOWN MANAGER, MAYOR, QUESTIONS, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THE STRATEGIC PLAN DATES? UM, YEAH, I WAS GONNA DO THAT UNDER THE, UM, THE WORKSHOP SCHEDULE, BUT I CAN DO THAT NOW. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, UM, MAYOR COUNCIL, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAPPY NEW YEAR. 
          I'VE GOT A FEW THINGS TO ADDRESS TODAY. 
          ONE OF WHICH IS AN UPCOMING PRETTY FULL ROBUST SCHEDULE FOR LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AS WELL AS TOWN CODE AMENDMENTS. 
          UM, SOME DISTRICT PLAN PUBLIC INPUT MEETINGS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP, AND THEN SOME INTERNAL, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          SO, UM, BEAR WITH ME AS I GET THROUGH A FEW THINGS LATE IN THE THIRD QUARTER, REALLY GETTING INTO THE FOURTH QUARTER TOWN COUNCIL, HELD A WORKSHOP ON ALL THINGS LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AND, AND LAND USE. 
          AND AT THAT WORKSHOP YOU ALL GAVE ME AND, AND MY TEAM SOME DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A FEW THINGS. 
          AND THEY INCLUDE SOME DIRECTION ON THE NORTH POINT ZONING, SINGLE FAMILY 
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HOME AND COMMERCIAL MASS AND SCALE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, ADAPTIVE REUSE, MOSTLY HOTEL AND MOTEL CONVERSIONS, MAJOR SUB AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN, REVIEW PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS, TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS, COMMON OPEN SPACE, TREE PROTECTION, SIGN STANDARDS, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT STANDARDS. 
          ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS FALL IN OUR LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN CALLING THOSE ARE PRIORITY ELEMENTS FOR AMENDMENT CONSIDERATION BY TOWN COUNCIL. 
          YOU'VE ALSO GIVEN ME SOME DIRECTION ON AMENDING THE TOWN CODE SEPARATELY THAN THOSE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCES OR ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION HOURS. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE, I'M, I'M, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE GREAT WORK. 
          MISSY LUECK AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN PERFORMING. 
          SEAN LEININGER INCLUDED. 
          THOSE ARE MOVING FORWARD TO YOU, SO DON'T BE SURPRISED IF YOU SEE THOSE ON PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDAS AND, AND JUST LETTING Y'ALL KNOW THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO PLANNING COMMISSION MOST OF THEM JANUARY 15TH FOR INTRODUCTION. 
          THEY WILL, UH, BE BEFORE THE, THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE ELEMENTS, UM, WILL BE BEFORE THE GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE, WHICH IS A SUB COMMITTEE OF PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          THEY WILL BE AT PUBLIC, OR THEY WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT PLANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 19TH, AND THEY WILL COME TO COUNCIL FIRST AND SECOND READING POTENTIALLY MARCH AND APRIL, DEPENDING ON HOW THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE AND PROCESS WORKS. 
          AND THE TOWN CODE AMENDMENTS FOR SHORT TERM REYNOLDS AND CONSTRUCTION HOURS WILL BE ON YOUR AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING FOR FIRST READING FEBRUARY 4TH. 
          SO I'M EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT AND LET YOU KNOW THAT IS MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW AND TOWN COUNCIL, I'VE LET YOU KNOW THAT, THAT MANY OF THESE DISTRICT PLAN COMMUNITY INPUT SESSIONS HAVE COMMENCED. 
          THE FIRST ONE IN A, IN A WHILE WILL BE THE SKULL CREEK DISTRICT PLAN, THE COMMUNITY MEETING ON JANUARY 16TH, FIVE TO SEVEN AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. 
          WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH MORE, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE SIX MORE AFTER THAT, BUT WE'LL HAVE BRIDGE TO THE BEACH PARKWAY, MARSH'S MAIN STREET, FOREST BEACH CHAPLAIN, ANYTIME BETWEEN JANUARY 23RD AND FEBRUARY 27TH. 
          SO WE'VE REALLY PUSHED HARD TO HAVE THOSE INPUT SESSIONS IN PLACE. 
          WE HAVE SENT STAFF SEND AND SENDING POSTCARD INVITATIONS TO EVERY COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OR RESIDENT IN EACH DISTRICT. 
          AN ONLINE SURVEY WILL BE RELEASED AFTER THE PUBLIC MEETINGS, SO WE CAN REALLY GET SOME INPUT. 
          PLANNING DIRECTOR MISSY LU WAS ON WHHI TO PROMOTE THIS SERIES. 
          A MEDIA RELEASE WAS, WAS RELEASED, UM, DISTRIBUTED AND ALSO ON SOCIAL MEDIA, FACEBOOK, AND ALSO KNOW THAT STAFF INVITED PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT PUBLIC INPUT AND INFORMATION GATHERING. 
          SO, THANK YOU MISSY. 
          AND TEAM, UM, JONESVILLE COMMUNITY CLEANUP. 
          THERE'S A JONESVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY CLEANUP THIS WEEKEND. 
          JANUARY 18TH. 
          HARD TO BELIEVE IT'S THE 18TH ALREADY. 
          UM, FROM NINE TO 12, THERE'LL BE A STREET SWEEP RECYCLING CENTER. 
          UM, AND THAT'S IN CONJUNCTION AND AT THE SAME TIME WITH THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND MLK COALITION OF JUSTICE. 
          AS, AS ON THE MLK DAY, THEY'RE DOING A CEMETERY CLEANUP. 
          SO OUR STAFF WILL PARTICIPATE AND I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL MOST LIKELY BE THERE TOO. 
          UM, THERE'LL BE SOME BULK ITEMS PICKED UP AS WELL IN MUDDY CREEK AND JONESVILLE. 
          LASTLY, UM, COUPLE GOOD ANNOUNCEMENTS INTERNALLY. 
          NATALIE HARVEY. 
          IS NATALIE HERE? YES. 
          OH, HI, NATALIE. 
          NATALIE HARVEY. 
          UM, SO IF YOU, IF YOU WANDER OUTSIDE THIS HALLWAY, WE HAVE SOME NEW ART. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ALWAYS EXCITED ABOUT IS TO SEE SOME NEW ART ON THE WALLS. 
          AND SO THE ART BEYOND TRADITION GROUP IS HERE AT TOWN HALL. 
          THESE ABSTRACT ARTISTS HAVE BEEN EXHIBITING TOGETHER SINCE 2006, AND WE HAVE MANY NEW EXAMPLES OF THEIR WORK TO SHARE WITH OUR COMMUNITY IN THE HALLWAY. 
          SO, NATALIE, THANK YOU TO YOU, THANK YOU TO THEM. 
          UM, IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO SEE THAT, THAT, THAT CHANGE OUT AND, AND GET EXCITED ALL OVER AGAIN. 
          AND LASTLY, TOM SUNDAY, OUR IT DIRECTOR INFORMED ME THAT HE AND HIS DEPARTMENT RECENTLY UPGRADED OUR NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE BY REPLACING ALL EXISTING ETHERNET CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN TOWN BUILDINGS WITH DARK FIBER. 
          AND THAT IS A, IS A MAJOR INVESTMENT. 
          IT COMES OUT OF OUR CIP BUT IT ALLOWS US REDUNDANT CONNECTIONS FOR EACH TOWN LOCATION, INCLUDING FIRE STATIONS. 
          AND WE'VE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED OUR NETWORK AND RELIABILITY. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO A COST SAVINGS OF OVER $85,000 A YEAR IN DOING SO. 
          SO, CONGRATS TO TOM AND THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ORLANDO? MR. BROWN? UH, YES, MR. MAYOR. 
          UH, MR. ORLANDO THE SATURDAY CLEANUP. 
          UM, I'M HOPING THAT THE WEATHERMAN IS WRONG, BUT IT'S CALLING FOR A COMPLETE WASHOUT ON SATURDAY. 
          SO 
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JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW IF WE ARE, UH, TALKING ABOUT A ALTERNATIVE DATE. 
          IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, WE, WE WILL PREPARE AN ALTERNATIVE DATE IF IT'S RAINED OUT, AND SADLY ENOUGH, WE WON'T KNOW IF IT'S RAINED OUT UNTIL THE TIME COMES. 
          SO, MS. BRYSON, ITS QUICKLY, PARDON ME, HE'S STILL RECOVERING FROM A BAD COLD. 
          THE DISTRICT PLANNING MEETINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED, UM, MR. ORLANDO THERE ON OUR WEBSITE, UM, IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE, YOU CAN FIND YOUR DISTRICT, UM, AND THE LOCATION AND THE TIMING OF THOSE DISTRICT MEETINGS. 
          SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHERE THEY CAN FIND THOSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS. 
          AND PARDON ME, ANY OTHER? ALRIGHT, SEEING THEM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS AND MY APPOINTMENTS TO, UH, A COUPLE OF COMMITTEES. 
          UM, FIRST STATE FOR EVERYBODY'S KNOWLEDGE THAT WHILE WE HAVE THREE COMMITTEES, I'M ONLY MAKING APPOINTMENT TO TWO COMMITTEES TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CONVERSATION LATER ON REGARDING THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE. 
          I'M ALSO ONLY MAKING THREE RECOMMENDATIONS OR THREE APPOINTMENTS TO EACH COMMITTEE, THE TWO THAT ARE REMAINING UNTIL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK THROUGH OUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN AND ADJUST THAT BECAUSE TYPICALLY THERE WAS FOUR ON THERE, UM, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT OF A QUESTION BECAUSE IT IS A QUORUM. 
          UM, AND WE NEED TO GET BACK TO THREE. 
          SO I'LL BE MAKING THREE APPOINTMENTS TODAY TO BOTH COMMUNITY SERVICE, PUBLIC SAFETY AND FINANCE ADMINISTRATION. 
          SO COMMUNITY 
          [8.a. Appointment of Town Council Membership to the Community Services and Public Safety Committee - Mayor Alan Perry]
SERVICE, PUBLIC SAFETY, CHAIRWOMAN WILL BE TAMARA BECKER MEMBERS STEVE DESIMONE AND STEVE ALFRED, FINANCE 
          [8.b. Appointment of Town Council Membership to the Finance and Administrative Committee - Mayor Alan Perry]
ADMINISTRATION, MEPO, TIM, ALEX BROWN WILL BE THE CHAIR WITH MEMBERS. 
          UH, PATSY BRYSON AND MELINDA TONNER. 
          KIM, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT SIGNED UP TO COMMENT ON THAT? NO, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT, WE WILL CON UH, 
          [8.c. Consideration of Adoption of Town Council 2025 Workshop Schedule - Shawn Leininger, Assistant Town Manager]
MOVE ON TO A CONSIDERATION, UH, OF ADOPTION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL. 
          THE WORKSHOP MEETINGS, UM, AS MR. ORLANDO ALLUDED TO A MOMENT AGO, UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP MEETING ON JANUARY 28TH. 
          UM, AND THAT IS GONNA BE IN REFERENCE TO THE BRIDGE CORRIDOR. 
          THE HEAVY LIFT FROM THE TOWN RIGHT NOW FOR THE NEXT TWO AND A HALF MONTHS IS THE BRIDGE CORRIDOR. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, UH, OR ASK COUNSEL TO CONSIDER MOVING THE STRATEGIC WORKSHOP PLAN FROM FEBRUARY 5TH AND SIXTH TO LATER IN FEBRUARY SO THAT MR. ORLANDO AND STAFF CAN HAVE THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS ON THE CORRIDOR. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL OPEN IT FOR, FOR QUESTIONS AND OR MOTION. 
          MS. BECKER. 
          UM, WELL FIRST I'VE HEARD THAT THERE'S A CONFLICT FOR THE JANUARY 28TH DATE BY ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES, UM, COUNSEL COLLEAGUES. 
          AND SO I WOULD UM, ASK RESPECTFULLY IF WE CAN MOVE THE JANUARY 28TH DATE TO ANOTHER DATE THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. 
          NOT LATER, BUT HOPEFULLY SOONER SINCE THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT AND TIME SENSITIVE MEETING. 
          CAN I ASK WHAT DATES WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU? JANUARY 27TH. 
          OKAY, MS. GAMMON, DO WE, WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE? GIVE ME TWO MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, IF OTHER WANNA CHIME IN, THAT'S TO MOVE THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP FROM JANUARY 28TH TO JANUARY 27TH. 
          THE, THE, THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP, BUT ALSO REALLY TO, TO MOVE OUT THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN WORKSHOP FROM FEBRUARY 5TH, SIXTH TO LATER IN THE MONTH. 
          SO IT'S TWO ITEMS AT THE MOMENT, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL ADDRESS THE REST OF THE MEETINGS HERE IF I COULD. 
          UH, I SUPPORT THE, UH, MOVE BASED ON ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES NOT BEING ABLE TO BE HERE ON THE 28TH. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY FOR THIS MATTER, THAT WE ALL BE PRESENT IN THE SAME ROOM FOR THAT WORKSHOP. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, MOVING THE STRAT PLAN WORKSHOP TO LATER IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY. 
          DO WE HAVE DATES YET AS TO WHEN THAT WOULD BE? IF, IF I COULD, WE'VE, WE'VE CHECKED ALL THE LOGISTICS. 
          IT WORKS ON THE FIFTH AND SIXTH. 
          IT ALSO WORKS ON THE FEBRUARY 26TH AND 27 DATE, WHICH THE FEBRUARY 26TH AND 27 DATE IS WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. 
          AND, AND WE HAVE ON THIS PROPOSED WORKSHOP MEETING, SCHEDULED A WORKSHOP ON FEBRUARY 25TH. 
          WOULD IT BE THEN THERE WOULD NO NOT BE ANOTHER WORKSHOP THAT WEEK OR WOULD THERE BE THREE IN A ROW  IT, IT, I WOULD DARE SAY THAT IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT WE NEED TO, TO DISCUSS REGARDING, UM, 2 78 CORRIDOR. 
          2 78 CORRIDOR. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME, SOME MEETINGS BETWEEN TOWN STAFF AND COUNTY STAFF AND THEN ALSO WITH TOWN COUNCIL AND COUNTY COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYBODY IS. 
          SO I WOULD, I WOULD PROPOSE LEAVING THAT 25TH ON THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, THE OTHER DATE, UM, THAT, UH, MY HUSBAND AND I HAD PLANS FOR WAS AUGUST 26TH, BUT UNDERSTAND WE ARE NOT MEETING THE WEEK OF LABOR DAY NOR 
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THE FOLLOWING WEEK. 
          WE WON'T MEET AGAIN UNTIL THE 16TH, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT SEPTEMBER NOW. 
          UM, SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, I JUST NEED TWO WEEKS FOR OUR PLANS AND I CAN MOVE FROM THE 26TH AS LONG AS AT THAT TIME PERIOD. 
          USUALLY THE, THE LAST WEEK OF AUGUST AND THE FIRST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER IS, IS A TIME WHERE WE CAN DO SOME TRAVEL DURING THE YEAR. 
          UM, SO PROVIDED THAT WE CAN MOVE, UM, THAT, THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE MEETINGS THOSE FIRST TWO WEEKS IN SEPTEMBER. 
          I COULD, I COULD BE THERE ON THE 26TH OF AUGUST OF THE MR OFFERED THE MOVES TO, UH, JANUARY 28, 27 IS ACCEPTABLE FOR ME. 
          AND AS IS MOVING FROM FEBRUARY FIVE AND SIX TO 26 AND 27. 
          YES, THOSE ARE BOTH GOOD. 
          JANUARY 27TH IS AVAILABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. BROWN? YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH, UH, MOVING THE STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP DATES AND, UM, I'M KEEPING MY OWN CALENDAR NOWADAYS, SO I'M MISTAKENLY IT ALREADY PUT THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON THE 27TH. 
          SO WE'RE GOOD. 
          PSYCHIC. 
          I LIKE IT. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I THINK MAYOR, SINCE UH, WE HAD ANNOUNCED THAT AT OUR 2 78 WORKSHOP LAST WEEK, I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT TO ESPECIALLY NOTE THAT IN OUR NEWS THAT WE SEND OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, IT WILL BE CHANGE OF THE DATE. 
          PARDON ME. 
          AND, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FOLLOW UP AND ASK THAT WE ALL STAY FLEXIBLE. 
          FEBRUARY 25TH, UM, IS A GREAT DATE, BUT IF SOME OF THESE OTHER MEETINGS HAVE TAKEN PLACE AND THERE'S INFORMATION TO SHARE, GIVEN THE SHORT TIMEFRAME WE HAVE. 
          YEP. 
          UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN ALL MAKE OUR SCHEDULES WORK FOR SHORT NOTICE MEETINGS PRIOR TO FEBRUARY 25TH. 
          YEAH, IT IS PRIORITY NUMBER ONE, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY, SO, ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, I THINK WE CUT. 
          SO, MAYOR, WITH THAT SAID, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE WORKSHOP SCHEDULE? YES. 
          WITH THE CHANGE FROM JANUARY 28TH TO JANUARY 27TH? YES. 
          THEN I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE AUDIENCE? CAN ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? NO, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO. 
          I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, NEXT WE WILL HAVE, UH, MR. JOHN MCGOWAN TO PRESENT THE PHYSICAL ARE MOVING. 
          FIVE, PARDON? ARE WE MOVING FIVE AND SIX FEBRUARY TO 26TH AND 27TH. 
          YES. 
          IT, IT'LL PART YOUR MOTION. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK, WELL, IT IT IS WHAT, UM, ME TO JUMP IN HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S NOT IN YOUR WORKSHOP SCHEDULE. 
          YEAH. 
          THUS FAR IT WAS ONLY A SAVE THE DATE ON YOUR CALENDARS. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE NOT ADVERTISED THAT EXTERNALLY, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS, INCLUDING GETTING YOUR TIME. 
          SO JUST MY KNOWLEDGE OF MOVING IT IS SUFFICE FOR NOW, BUT IT GIVES US SOME CONFIDENCE TO START ADVERTISING IT. 
          SO YOU'VE HEARD IT HERE FIRST. 
          THE TOWN COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLAN WORKSHOP WILL BE HELD AT THE WESTIN ON FEBRUARY 26 AND 27. 
          AND HEATHER WOOLWINE, OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS, WILL GET A LOT OF MESSAGING OUT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND MAYOR, TO CLARIFY THE MOTION THAT WAS TO ADOPT THE WORKSHOP SCHEDULE SET FORTH WITH THE CHANGE IN THE JANUARY DATE ALONE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND NOT INCLUDING THE STRAT PLAN WORKSHOP? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          YEP. 
          SO NOW, 
          [8.d. Presentation of FY2024 Annual Comprehensive Financial Audit Report for the Town of Hilton Head Island Presentation by Mauldin & Jenkins, CPAs - Adriana Burnett, Finance Director]
UH, MR. MCGOWAN, UH, WE'LL MAKE A PRESENTATION OF THE FISCAL 24 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL AUDIT REPORT. 
          MR. MCGOWAN? THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, TOWN COUNCIL, MR. ORLANDO? UH, YEAH. 
          I'M JOHN MCGOWAN, ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR, AND I'LL BE REPRESENTING THE FINANCE TEAM TODAY AS ADRIANA BURNETT, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR IS OUT OF TOWN WITH ANOTHER COMMITMENT. 
          UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO INTRODUCE YOU TO MR. TRAY SCOTT, A PARTNER WITH MALDEN AND JENKINS, THE TOWN CPA FIRM. 
          MR. MR. SCOTT IS HERE TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THEIR AUDIT FOR THE TOWNS OF THE TOWNS FINANCIALS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24. 
          WE'D LIKE TO THANK MR. SCOTT AND HIS TEAM FOR THE THOROUGH WORK THEY'VE DONE REVIEWING THE TOWN'S 2024 FINANCIAL INFORMATION. 
          PLEASE WELCOME MR. SCOTT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, AGAIN, MY NAME'S TREY SCOTT. 
          I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL TODAY TO DISCUSS THE RESULTS OF, OF THE, UH, TOWN'S AUDIT. 
          UH, REALLY QUICKLY GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHY I'M HERE TODAY. 
          GONNA GIVE YOU AN INTRODUCTION TO MALDEN AND JENKINS IN CASE YOU'RE UNFAMILIAR WITH WHO WE ARE. 
          UH, GO OVER OUR INDEPENDENT AUDITOR'S REPORT, OUR COMPLIANCE REPORTS, YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, UH, SOME THINGS THAT GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS REQUIRE ME TO COMMUNICATE TO YOU, AND THEN ANSWER SOME OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT, THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. 
          UM, REALLY QUICKLY ABOUT MALDEN AND JENKINS, WE WERE FOUNDED OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO. 
          WE SERVE OVER 725 GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHEAST. 
          WE DO THAT ACROSS 14 OFFICES IN SIX STATES. 
          UH, AND THE OFFICE THAT SERVES YOU ALL AS OUR SAVANNAH, GEORGIA OFFICE. 
          UH, AND WE 
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PROVIDE AS A FIRM OVER 156,000 HOURS ANNUALLY TO OUR GOVERNMENTAL CLIENTS. 
          SO WE'RE CERTAINLY, UH, COMMITTED TO THE INDUSTRY. 
          UH, BUT ENOUGH ABOUT US, I THINK OF PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE TO YOU ALL, UM, IS OUR AUDIT OPINION. 
          I THINK, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THEMSELVES THAT ACT FOR THAT ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TOWN'S MANAGEMENT. 
          UH, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS YOUR AUDITOR TO EXPRESS OPINIONS ON THAT FINANCIAL INFORMATION BASED ON OUR AUDIT. 
          UH, WE DO THAT BY FOLLOWING GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS AND GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS. 
          UH, AND I'M PLEASED TO REPORT TO YOU ALL TODAY, UH, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ISSUE THE TOWN A CLEAN OR WHAT WE CALL AN UNMODIFIED OPINION. 
          WHAT THAT BASICALLY MEANS IS THAT YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS PRESENT FAIRLY, THE FINANCIAL POSITION AND THE RESULTS OF, OF THE TOWN'S OPERATIONS, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH, WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2024. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, RIGHT? A CLEAN OPINION. 
          UH, IT'S THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ASSURANCE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO YOU. 
          ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR ACT FOR ARE A COUPLE OF COMPLIANCE REPORTS. 
          THE FIRST IS OUR YELLOW BOOK REPORT. 
          UH, AND, AND THIS IS WHERE WE REPORT TO YOU ON YOUR INTERNAL CONTROLS AND COMPLIANCE. 
          WE DON'T PROVIDE YOU WITH AN OPINION ON THOSE, BUT IF WE HAVE ANY FINDINGS TO REPORT TO YOU, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD REPORT THOSE. 
          WE DID HAVE ONE FINDING THIS YEAR. 
          IT'S RELATED TO ANOTHER POST-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS PLAN. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY IMPACT ON YOUR FUND LEVEL INFORMATION. 
          YOU ALL PRESENT TWO SETS OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, A GOVERNMENT WIDE SET OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, WHICH YOU ONLY SEE ONCE A YEAR IN YOUR ACT FOR, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT FINDING AFFECTED. 
          IT HAD THAT BIG LIABILITY. 
          I SAY BIG, IT'S ABOUT 3.7 MILLION, UH, THAT NEEDED TO BE REPORTED. 
          WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE PLAN, UH, UNTIL THIS YEAR, WHICH IS WHY IT HADN'T BEEN REPORTED IN THE PAST. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY BOTTOM LINE IMPACT ON YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OR YOUR FUND LEVEL INFORMATION OR THE NUMBERS THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN USING TO MAKE DECISIONS. 
          SO, UH, IF EVER THERE WERE A FINDING TO HAVE, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD ONE TO HAVE THAT DOESN'T IMPACT, YOU KNOW, YOUR BOTTOM LINE AND, AND SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN USING TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON. 
          UH, THE OTHER COMPLIANCE REPORT IS OUR SINGLE AUDIT REPORT. 
          UH, ANYTIME YOU SPEND MORE THAN $750,000 IN FEDERAL GRANT MONIES, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SINGLE AUDIT OF YOUR MAJOR GRANT PROGRAMS. UH, AND WE WERE ABLE TO ISSUE YOU ALL AN UNMODIFIED OR CLEAN OPINION ON COMPLIANCE WITH THAT MAJOR GRANT PROGRAM. 
          SO THAT'S CERTAINLY A, A VERY GOOD THING, UH, TO SEE IF YOU'RE UNAWARE. 
          UH, YOU ALL GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE MINIMUM REQUIRED REPORTING OF A LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          YOU PRESENT AN ACT FOR AN ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT, UH, AND IT INCLUDES A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL SECTIONS OUTSIDE OF THE REQUIRED INFORMATION. 
          UH, AN INTRODUCTORY SECTION IN A STATISTICAL SECTION. 
          UH, AND THAT ACT FOR IS SUBMITTED ANNUALLY TO GFOA, THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. 
          THEY HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF EXCELLENCE, UH, FOR ACHIEVEMENT AND FINANCIAL REPORTING PROGRAM. 
          YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, UH, WHICH IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WORKS VERY HARD ON SOMETHING. 
          I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF RECEIVING THAT CERTIFICATE. 
          UH, 2020 FOURS AVERAGE'S BEEN SUBMITTED. 
          WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THERE BEING ANY ISSUES WITH YOU ALL RECEIVING, UH, THE CERTIFICATE FOR 2024. 
          IF WE MOVE ON TO THE NUMBERS REALLY QUICKLY, WHAT I ALLUDED TO EARLIER IS YOU PRESENT TWO SETS OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, A GOVERNMENT WIDE SET, WHICH YOU ONLY SEE IN YOUR AP FOR. 
          AND WHAT THAT GOVERNMENT WIDE SET OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS DO IS IT TAKES ALL OF YOUR FUNDS, ROLLS 'EM UP INTO ONE BIG COLUMN, GIVES YOU THAT BIG PICTURE VIEW OF, OF THE TOWN AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2024. 
          UH, AND, AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS THESE NUMBERS ARE CONCERNED OR, OR YOUR GOVERNMENT WIDE NUMBERS, UH, DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO A COUPLE OF THEM THAT, THAT NEXT TO LAST BULLET THERE, YOUR NET POSITION, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR ASSETS AND YOUR LIABILITIES. 
          NOT THE CASH THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO SPEND. 
          UH, BUT THAT'S A REALLY GOOD HEALTHY NET POSITION, UH, TO SEE FOR, FOR A TOWN AND ESPECIALLY A TOWN OF YOUR SIZE. 
          UH, AND YOU SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED THAT NET POSITION THIS YEAR. 
          THAT'S THAT BOTTOM BULLET POINT BY ABOUT ABOUT 51 MILLION. 
          SO OVERALL, YOUR REVENUES ACROSS ALL YOUR FUNDS EXCEEDED YOUR EXPENSES ACROSS ALL OF YOUR FUNDS BY ABOUT 51 MILLION. 
          ONE OF THE MORE COMMON QUESTIONS I GET IS, HOW HEALTHY ARE WE AS A, AS A GOVERNMENT? AND WHILE AN AUDIT'S NOT DESIGNED TO TELL YOU HOW HEALTHY YOU ARE, UH, THERE'S CERTAIN PLACES OR METRICS THAT YOU KIND OF LOOK AT TO GAUGE THAT HEALTH. 
          AND ONE THAT I LIKE TO LOOK AT IS, IS ARE WE CONTINUING TO REINVEST IN THE TOWN OR ARE WE ALLOWING OUR ASSETS TO, TO AGE? UH, AND YOU CAN SEE IN THIS GRAPH, THE BLUE BAR IS YOUR DEPRECIABLE ASSET BASE. 
          THE GREEN BAR IS HOW MUCH ACCUMULATED DEPRECIATION HAS ACCUMULATED OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEARS ON THOSE DEPRECIABLE ASSETS. 
          AND YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD MIX OF NEW AND OLDER ASSETS. 
          SO LOOKING AT THIS GRAPH, I CAN TELL THAT, THAT THE TOWN CONTINUES TO REINVEST IT ITSELF, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE, WE WANNA SEE. 
          AND THAT THAT CERTAINLY IS A GOOD INDICATOR, UH, OF HEALTH OR GOOD HEALTH. 
          MOVING ON FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT-WIDE STATEMENTS, REMEMBER I SAID YOU HAVE TWO SETS TO YOUR FUND LEVEL INFORMATION, WHICH YOU'RE MORE APT TO SEE IN, IN THE BUDGET PROCESS AND PROBABLY ON A MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY BASIS WHEN YOU SEE THE NUMBERS AND MORE SPECIFICALLY YOUR GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, AGAIN, A BUNCH OF NUMBERS ON THE PAGE, BUT I'LL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT THIRD BULLET, YOUR FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS THE DIFFERENCE 
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BETWEEN YOUR ASSETS AND YOUR LIABILITIES. 
          ALMOST 40 MILLION, REALLY HEALTHY LOOKING FUND BALANCE. 
          UH, AND THEN YOU INCREASED YOUR FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR BY ABOUT 6 MILLION. 
          THAT'S THAT THIRD TO BOTTOM, UH, BULLET POINT THERE. 
          UH, REMEMBER AGAIN, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH A FEW MOMENTS AGO. 
          ONE OF THE OTHER PLACES TO LOOK AS FAR AS YOUR GENERAL FUND IS CONCERNED AS IT RELATES TO HEALTH, IS HOW MANY MONTHS OF EXPENDITURES DO YOU HAVE IN UNASSIGNED OR, OR AN UNRESTRICTED TYPE FUND BALANCE. 
          GFO RECOMMENDS ABOUT GFOA RECOMMENDS ABOUT THREE TO SIX MONTHS. 
          YOU ALL HAVE ABOUT 3.3, UH, IN UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, BUT YOU'RE UNRESTRICTED. 
          SO THE COMBINATION OF YOUR COMMITTED ASSIGNED AND UNASSIGNED, YOU HAVE ABOUT 8.6 MONTHS. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY A REALLY GOOD HEALTHY PLACE TO BE. 
          UH, AS FAR AS YOUR GENERAL FUND'S CONCERNED. 
          ANOTHER PLACE TO LOOK FOR HEALTH, YOUR LIQUID RATIO. 
          SO HOW MANY TIMES COULD YOU PAY THE INVOICES THAT ARE DUE, UH, AT JUNE 30TH, 2024, YOUR PAYROLL THAT'S COMING DUE? HOW MANY TIMES COULD YOU PAY THAT WITH THE CURRENT LIQUID ASSETS YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU? YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT ABOUT 3.2 TIMES. 
          SO THAT'S A GOOD LIQUID POSITION AS WELL. 
          SO REALLY GOOD INDICATORS OF HEALTH AS IT RELATES TO YOUR, TO YOUR GENERAL FUND. 
          AND THEN FOR THOSE OF US ESPECIALLY LIKE THESE THAT PREFER A PICTURE VERSUS NUMBERS ON A PAGE, UH, REALLY GOOD HEALTHY TRENDS AS IT RELATES TO YOUR GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, THE ORANGE BAR IS YOUR UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE. 
          VERY GOOD TREND UPWARDS. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST A SHADE OVER 20 MILLION IN 2020 AND WE'RE JUST A SHADE UNDER 40 MILLION IN 2024. 
          REVENUES ARE TICKING UP AS WELL. 
          UH, EXPENDITURES ALSO FOLLOW SUIT. 
          SO, UH, AGAIN, GOOD TRENDS AS IT RELATES TO YOUR GENERAL FUND. 
          AND THEN FUND BALANCE HISTORY. 
          I KIND OF ALLUDED TO THIS A LITTLE WHILE AGO. 
          GOOD INDICATOR OF HEALTH. 
          ALSO GOOD TRENDS IN, IN LOOKING AT YOUR FUND BALANCE HISTORY AS WELL. 
          SO NO REAL CONCERNS THERE. 
          GOOD, GOOD LOOKING, HEALTHY LOOKING GENERAL FUND IN, IN 2024. 
          AND THEN YOUR MAJOR, YOUR, YOUR MAJOR ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          NOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT HERE 'CAUSE IT'S IN A PRETTY GOOD SHAPE AS WELL. 
          13.8 MILLION IN NET POSITION. 
          SO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR ASSETS AND YOUR LIABILITIES THERE. 
          INCREASED IT BY ABOUT 600,000 THIS YEAR. 
          UH, AND THEN TAKING A LOOK AT IT GRAPHICALLY. 
          AGAIN, VERY GOOD TRENDS, UH, ESPECIALLY IN IN UNRESTRICTED NET POSITION FROM 2021, ESPECIALLY UP TO 2024. 
          UH, AND GOOD STRONG POSITIVE OPERATING CASH FLOW CASH FLOWS FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS AS WELL. 
          SO STORM WATER LOOKS, LOOKS VERY, VERY HEALTHY TOO. 
          FEW OTHER ITEMS OF NOTE, KIND OF GOVERNMENT WIDE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REINVESTING IN A TOWN. 
          YOU DID THAT TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT 25 MILLION IN 2024. 
          UH, PAID DOWN ABOUT 13 MILLION IN PRINCIPLE ON YOUR DEBT. 
          UH, HAD A NET PENSION LIABILITY SO THAT, THAT THOSE PENSION BENEFITS YOU'RE GONNA BE PAYING TO, TO THE RETIREES THERE. 
          UH, IN, IN THE POORS PLAN, UH, IT WAS ABOUT 19 MILLION. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S A VERY LONG-TERM LIABILITY. 
          THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA COME DUE TOMORROW OR NEXT YEAR OR IN 10 YEARS. 
          IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS ON. 
          UH, THE OPED LIABILITY THAT I MENTIONED THAT CAME ON THE BOOKS THIS YEAR AS A RESULT OF THAT FINDING IS ABOUT 3.7 MILLION. 
          AND THEN WE HAD FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A WHILE, NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS AS IT RELATES TO ANY NEW GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDARDS, BOARD STANDARDS OR STATEMENTS THIS YEAR. 
          THERE WILL BE A FEW NEW ONES THAT ARE COMING ONLINE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          WE'LL CERTAINLY WORK WITH, UH, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT ON THE BEST COURSE OF IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, THOSE REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS, UH, AGAIN, A CLEAN OPINION. 
          THE ONE FINDING NO MANAGEMENT LETTER COMMENTS, WHICH IS A GREAT THING. 
          UH, YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENT DISCLOSURES, SO YOUR FOOTNOTES, YOUR, YOUR ESTIMATES, ALL OF THOSE ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MANAGEMENT. 
          UH, THEY'RE VERY INTEGRAL PARTS OF YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. 
          UH, WE HAD NO DIFFICULTIES IN DEALING WITH MANAGEMENT, THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR AUDIT, NO DISAGREEMENTS WITH MANAGEMENT. 
          UH, YOU GOT A GREAT FINANCE DEPARTMENT WHO CARES A LOT ABOUT WHAT THEY DO. 
          UH, AND AND CERTAINLY THAT'S, UH, VERY REFRESHING FROM OUR STANDPOINT AS, AS YOUR AUDITOR. 
          UH, ALSO NO UNCORRECTED MISSTATEMENTS. 
          SO ALL, ALL ADJUSTMENTS WERE POSTED TO THE ACCOUNTS OF THE, OF, OF THE COUNTY, OR EXCUSE ME, OF THE TOWN. 
          UH, AND THEN JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE THAT WE'RE INDEPENDENT OF THE TOWN IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL OF THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS OF, OF OUR PROFESSION. 
          AND THAT PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES WHAT I HAD TO REPORT TO YOU ALL TODAY. 
          IT'S CERTAINLY BEEN A PLEASURE TO SERVE THE TOWN AND AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING YOU ALL IN THE FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I DO, YES, MA'AM. 
          YES. 
          UM, SO I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN FINANCE IN BUSINESS, AND SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE, UM, AUDITING OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND AS WELL AS AUDITS ON INTERNAL CONTROLS. 
          AND IT WAS JUST PART OF OUR DAILY LIFE. 
          UM, WE WOULD ON AN ANNUAL BASIS PICK PROCESSES, UM, TO, UH, REVIEW FROM AN IN INTERNAL CONTROL BASIS, UH, TO MAKE SURE WE WERE FOLLOWING THE PROCESSES AND AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD ADEQUATE DOCUMENTATION. 
          UM, I, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE, SHOULD WE BE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO DO AUDITS ON INTERNAL CONTROLS? THAT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU ALL. 
          I MEAN, AS PART OF OUR AUDIT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T AUDIT YOUR CONTROLS, RIGHT? WE DON'T OPINE ON YOUR CONTROLS. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I AM HESITANT TO RECOMMEND THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE COME ACROSS ANYTHING AS PART OF THE AUDIT, WE WOULD MAKE SOME KIND 
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OF MANAGEMENT LETTER COMMENT TO, TO TRY TO HELP YOU IMPROVE UPON THE CONTROLS THAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE. 
          BUT AT LIKE, AS YOU KNOW, AN AUDIT'S NOT AS DESIGNED TO, TO FIND FRAUD, IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO HELP YOU, UH, OR, OR PROVIDE AN OPINION ON YOUR CONTROLS. 
          SO THAT CERTAINLY IS A, IS A GOOD PRACTICE, UH, TO, TO HAVE TO MAYBE LOOK AT CERTAIN CONTROLS HERE AND THERE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          BUT, UH, LIKE YOU SAID, YET AN AUDIT'S NOT DESIGNED FOR, FOR THOSE THINGS. 
          SO, AND THEN SPEAKING ABOUT THE ONE FINDING, UM, HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN IN THE FUTURE? YEAH, I, I THINK THAT THAT PLAN SOMEHOW JUST SLID UNDER THE RADAR. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WE AUDITED YOU ALL FOR THE FIRST TIME LAST YEAR, UH, AND ONE OF THE, THE CONTROLS OR PROCEDURES THAT WE DO IS WE TAKE YOUR PRIOR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT WERE AUDITED WITH A, WITH A CLEAN OPINION AND ASK IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING NEW THAT WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT. 
          UH, AND, UH, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING. 
          AND, AND, AND THAT'S A STANDARD THAT ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED SEVEN YEARS AGO. 
          UM, SO IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE THE PLAN JUST SLID UNDER THE RADAR. 
          I I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU, YOUR CONTROLS WERE, WERE, UH, OPERATING IN A, IN A NEGATIVE MANNER THAT WOULD'VE ALLOWED US TO REALIZE THAT. 
          UH, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I THINK JUST HAD BEEN MISSED SINCE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT STANDARD. 
          AND THEN JUST THE LAST COMMENT, THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT. 
          UM, IT, I WANNA COMPLIMENT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          IT IS A WONDERFUL DOCUMENT, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR US PEOPLE WHO LOVE FINANCE. 
          UH, IT'S A WEALTH OF INFORMATION. 
          I ACTUALLY USED IT A LOT LAST YEAR IN LOOKING UP, UH, VARIOUS DETAILS. 
          AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE THIS TOOL AVAILABLE TO US. 
          YEAH, I WOULD SAY IT'S A VERY WELL PUT TOGETHER DOCUMENT AS FAR AS JUST THE AESTHETICS OF IT ALONE, NOT TO MENTION THE INFORMATION THAT'S INCLUDED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? MR. ER? UM, UNLIKE MY COLLEAGUE HERE, I DO NOT READ THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT BEFORE I GO TO SLEEP. 
          I BET YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE. 
          . 
          UH, IT'S NI VERY NICE TO HEAR THAT YOU VIEW OUR OPERATIONS BASICALLY BEING FINANCIALLY IN VERY GOOD HEALTH. 
          AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT, UM, OUTSTANDING RATINGS FROM THE THREE MUNICIPAL BOND RATING AGENCIES. 
          UM, KIND OF A PHILOSOPHICAL THEORETICAL QUESTION, UM, IN THE PERSONAL FINANCE ARENA, I PROBABLY WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF I HAD MORE CREDIT CARDS. 
          UM, OUR BOND, UH, OUTSTANDING BOND ISSUES HAVE BEEN PAID DOWN WITH RECENT YEARS. 
          UH, IF WE DECIDE TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND BORROW MONEY FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING, WHAT'S YOUR VIEW AS TO HOW THAT AFFECTS YOUR OVERALL RATING OF OUR HEALTH? THERE IS A GOOD, THERE'S A, THERE'S A THING SUCH AS GOOD DEBT. 
          YOU KNOW, IF RATES ARE GOOD, YOU KNOW, I I THINK IT'S OKAY TO BORROW A LITTLE BIT, BUT IF OUR RATES ARE BAD, I MEAN, RATES ARE HIGH, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A, IT'S A DECISION THAT CERTAINLY I CAN'T MAKE FOR YOU ALL. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, BUT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU, YOU ALL ARE IN A PRETTY HEALTHY FINANCIAL POSITION, UH, CERTAINLY AS OF JUNE 30, 20, 24. 
          SO, I MEAN, IF YOU FELT LIKE YOU NEEDED TO TAKE ON A LITTLE MORE DEBT, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WOULD BE A, AN ISSUE. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, ALL DECISIONS THAT, THAT I CAN'T MAKE FOR YOU. 
          UM, SO DID I SIDESTEP THAT WELL ENOUGH? YEAH. 
          EXCELLENT JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          . 
          MR. BROWN. 
          YEAH, LEMME SEE IF I CAN GIVE YOU ONE THAT YOU CAN'T SIDESTEP HERE. 
          , UM, I SHARE MY COLLEAGUES AND SAYING WE APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, POSITIVE REPORT BACK TO US AND, UM, BEING CRITICAL WITH, WITH YOUR FINDINGS. 
          UM, IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENT, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU GUYS REPRESENT OVER 700 GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES. 
          UM, SO I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WITH, UH, THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD'S CONTINUAL REDUCTION OF HIS DEBT, UH, CONTINUAL INCREASING AND OUR FUND BALANCES, UM, THROUGH POLICY, BY THE WAY. 
          UM, JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW WE SQUARE UP AGAINST OTHERS AS FAR AS MUNICIPALITIES ARE CONCERNED. 
          , THAT'S OTHER, ANOTHER ONE OF THE MORE COMMON QUESTIONS I GET IS HOW DO WE COMPARE TO OTHERS? UH, AND I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE YOU TO REALLY LOOK INWARD MORE THAN TRYING TO COMPARE YOURSELF TO SOMEONE ELSE. 
          BUT AS A WHOLE, GENERALLY FOR SOMEONE, UH, A TOWN OF YOUR SIZE, YOU ALL CERTAINLY RANK IN, IN THE TOP TIER OF, OF, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT HEALTH AND FUND BALANCE, NET POSITION, YOU KNOW, DEBT RATIOS, LIQUIDITY RATIOS, YOU CERTAINLY ARE, ARE IN A REALLY GOOD SPOT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS? MS. BRYSON? I TRY NOT TO CORRECT AT YOU, . 
          UM, ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT YOU SHOWED SHOWS $19 MILLION IN PENSION LIABILITY. 
          YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SEE THAT THE FIRST TIME AND GO LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WHAT IS THAT? AND SHOULD NOT BE WORRIED ABOUT THAT. 
          19 MILLION'S A LOT OF MONEY. 
          UM, 
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BUT I, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR ABOUT AN EXPLANATION OF THAT, THAT IT'S, IT'S LIKE, NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO DOWN THE TUBES IF WE DON'T PAY THAT 19 MILLION OF PENSION LIABILITY NEXT YEAR. 
          SO YEAH, THAT'S, IT'S A VERY LONG TERM LIABILITY, RIGHT? IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL BASICALLY PAY YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS INTO THE PLAN. 
          THAT $19 MILLION NUMBER IS A NUMBER THAT AN ACTUARY COMES WITH, COMES UP WITH AS TO WHAT'S YOUR OVERALL LIABILITY FOR THAT PLAN IS AS OF A DATE AND TIME, RIGHT? SO THAT'S NOT A LIABILITY THAT'S GONNA BE DUE TOMORROW, NEXT YEAR, IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS. 
          UM, SO YEAH, VERY LONG TERM. 
          AND TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE, IF I OPEN UP THIS ACT FOR, I CAN TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO REPORT THESE LIABILITIES, IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR GOVERNMENT WIDE SET OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND YOU GO TO THEIR NET POSITION AT THE GOVERNMENT WIDE LEVEL, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT THEY REPORT A NEGATIVE UNRESTRICTED NET POSITION. 
          THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD. 
          YOU ALL HAVE A POSITIVE UNRESTRICTED NET POSITION, EVEN WITH, YOU KNOW, $19 MILLION NET PENSION LIABILITY AND A $3 MILLION, UH, NET OPEP LI OR TOTAL OPEP LIABILITY. 
          BUT YOU GOT 22.7 MILLION IN, IN PENSION AND RETIREE RELATED BENEFITS THAT ARE GONNA GET PAID OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. 
          YOU STILL HAVE A VERY STRONG, UH, POSITIVE UNRESTRICTED NET POSITION. 
          SO, UH, THAT ALONE IS A TESTAMENT TO, TO KIND OF THE HEALTH OF THE TOWN. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IN FACT, IT'S PROBABLY VERY COMMON FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE A PENSION LIABILITY. 
          WE'RE JUST IN A MUCH BETTER SITUATION THAN MOST, AS YOU'VE JUST INDICATED. 
          VERY MUCH SO. 
          GREAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANKS VERY MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT, OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I, I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD EXCEPT FOR, YOU KNOW, GREAT JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, AND, AND, AND OF COURSE TO THE FNA FINANCE ADMINISTRATION GROUP. 
          GREAT JOB AS ALWAYS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHANGEOVER THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR. 
          SO, KIM, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? NO, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT WE HAVE 
          [8.e. Consideration of an Ordinance of the Town of Hilton Head Island Granting Easements to South Island Public Service Districts for Infrastructure Installation - First Reading - Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager]
MR. SEAN COLEN, WHO WILL PRESENT THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND GRANTING EASEMENT, THE SOUTH ALLEN PUBLIC SURFACE DISTRICTS FOR INFRAS INFRASTRUCTURE INSTALLATION. 
          THESE EASEMENTS WERE REVIEWED BY TOWN COUNCIL AND EXECUTIVE SESSION ON AUGUST 20TH AND NOVEMBER 12TH. 
          MR. COLLIN, MAYOR, GOOD AFTERNOON, TOWN COUNCIL, TOWN MANAGER. 
          UM, IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU. 
          IS THIS THE VERY FIRST OFFICIAL ACTION ITEM OF THIS COUNCIL? YES. 
          YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          . 
          UM, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, THIS HAS BEEN TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          UH, KIM, CAN YOU PUT PULL UP ATTACHMENT ONE? UM, THE SOUTH ISLAND PSD IS EXECUTING A WATERLINE PROJECT, UM, ON THE SOUTH END OF THE ISLAND. 
          UH, THE WATERLINE IMPACTS SEVERAL PROPERTIES, UH, FOR OF WHICH ARE TOWN OWNED PROPERTIES. 
          UM, AND THEY REQUESTED EASEMENTS ALONG THOSE PROPERTIES. 
          UM, IN THE PREVIOUS CO UH, DISCUSSIONS WITH TOWN COUNCIL COUNCIL, UM, EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN, UM, AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE A FEW THINGS WERE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION FOR THESE EASEMENTS. 
          UH, ONE WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE IDENTIFIED THESE AS TOWN HALL PROPERTY. 
          UM, NUMBER TWO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A DETOUR PLAN, UM, AND ALSO AND A, UH, ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S AWARE WHEN THESE, UH, CONSTRUCTION, UH, AREAS ARE GONNA BE IN PLAY AND THAT WE'VE GOT A DETOUR PLAN. 
          THE PSD, I'M SORRY, HAS A DETOUR PLAN TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN GET AROUND SAFELY. 
          UM, THAT WE REQUIRE OAK TREES AS MITIGATION FOR ANY TREES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, AND TO RE AND TO REQUIRE UNDERSTORY VEGETATION BE REPLANTED SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THESE SORT OF TUNNELS, UH, THESE GAPS IN THE, IN THE VEGETATION. 
          UM, ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN CONVEYED TO THE SOUTH ISLAND PSD. 
          THEY'RE RECEPTIVE TO THESE CHANGES. 
          AND OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW TEAM, UM, HAS THESE AS, UH, NOTES AND CONDITIONS THAT'LL BE PART OF THIS PROJECT AS IT MOVES FORWARD. 
          UM, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TREES THAT WILL BE IMPACTED, UM, HAS BEEN REDUCED DOWN TO 23. 
          UM, MADE UP OF 11 PINE TREES, NINE GUM, AND THREE LIVE OAKS. 
          THE LARGEST BEING, UH, 20 INCHES IN DIAMETER. 
          SO ONLY ONE OF, UH, OF SIZE THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER A, A BIG OF VALUE. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, I MENTIONED THE MITIGATION REQUIREMENT IS TO REPLANT ALL WITH, WITH OAK TREES. 
          UM, AS PART OF THIS APPROVAL, UM, THIS IS A FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO CONSIDER THIS, AND IF COUNSEL, UM, IS INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU ON FEBRUARY 4TH THROUGH SECOND AND FINAL READING. 
          OKAY. 
          BEFORE I BRING IT TO COUNSEL FOR QUESTIONS, KIM, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL, MS. BRYSON? UM, FIRST OF ALL ON, UH, TWO OF THE AREAS THAT I KNOW OF, AS SENT ON THE SCREEN, NUMBER ONE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM ALONG POPE AVENUE AND NUMBER THREE AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN, UH, ALONG WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY, UM, IN AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE CASES, I THINK BOTH THOSE CASES THERE ARE MULTI-USE PATHWAYS 
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AND AS UNDERSTAND IT, ALTHOUGH THAT THOSE AREAS ARE AFFECTED BY THESE EASEMENTS, THAT THERE WILL BE DIRECTIONAL BORING, WHICH WILL BE UNDERGROUND. 
          SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE WON'T BE RIPPING UP THE MULTI, OR SORRY, PSD WON'T BE RIPPING UP THE MULTI-USE PATHWAYS, THOUGH I WOULD SAY THERE'LL BE MINIMAL IMPACT TO TREES OR MULTI-USE PATHWAYS WITH DIRECTIONAL BORING. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND, AND THERE'LL BE, UH, BEFORE WHEN WE'VE HAD CONSTRUCTIONAL LONG MULTI-USE PATHWAYS THERE, THERE'VE BEEN SIGNS LIKE CLOSED AND THEN PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO . 
          UM, SO I THINK THAT PART OF OUR DISCUSSION IS WE NEED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT WHEN FOLKS ARE, ARE BIKING AND WALKING ALONG THOSE PATHWAYS, IF THERE'S CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, THEY HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION ABOUT WHERE TO GO AS OPPOSED TO WALK OUT IN THE MILL MILL WALK OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY. 
          PARDON ME? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND THAT WAS A CONDITION THAT COUNCIL HAD EXPRESSED, AND WE'VE SHARED THAT WITH THE PSD AND IT'S A CONDITION AND EXPECTATION OF THEM AS THEY EXECUTE THIS PROJECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND THE, THE MAIN CONCERN I HAVE REMAINING IS IN, UM, AREA NUMBER FOUR, UH, WHICH IS OUR WOODED AREA RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET HERE FROM US. 
          UM, BECAUSE LOOKING IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, TALKS ABOUT THERE BEING TREE IMPACT AND THERE ARE THREE LIVE OAK TREES, UH, LARGEST BEING 20 INCHES IN DIAMETER. 
          UM, NINE GUM TREES, BUT ESPECIALLY THE LIVE OAK TREES. 
          SO THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOME SORT OF MITIGATION PLAN, UM, ABOUT THE TREE. 
          AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT APPROVING IT AT THIS POINT WITHOUT SEEING WHAT THAT MITIGATION PLAN IS, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE AFFECTING THREE LIVE OAK TREES. 
          UM, WELL, I COULD, I, I GUESS I, I COULD SUGGEST WE CAN BRING A PLAN BACK WITH SECOND READING. 
          UM, THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY TREE MITIGATION STRATEGY INCLUDED THE REPLANNING OF LOT OF OAK, I'M SORRY, OAK TREES, UH, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WAS BEING REMOVED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. 
          SO WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING THAT BACK, UM, FOR A SECOND BEFORE SECOND AND FINAL READING. 
          YEAH, I THINK THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO PULL THAT ONE OUT FROM, UM, THIS ORDINANCE TODAY AND WAIT TILL WE GET A TREE MITIGATION PLAN. 
          BUT IF THERE CAN BE ONE, UM, I'M, I'M, I'M ENOUGH TROUBLED BY IT TO SUGGEST THAT WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY IN THIS CASE. 
          ON THAT ONE EASEMENT, JUST JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, YOU SAID THAT THERE, WHATEVER 23 TREES CAN BE REMOVED, THE MITIGATION IS TO REPLANT FOR THOSE 23 TREES WITH AN OAK TREE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT THE QUESTION IS. 
          WELL, , UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIVE OAK TREES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT TAKES SOME TIME TO GROW AND WE VALUE THE LIVE OAK TREES. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT INDIVIDUALS OR, OR, OR BUSINESSES WHO ARE MOVING TREES FROM THEIR PROPERTY, THEY HAVE TO SHOW AND, AND GET A PERMIT FOR THAT TREE REMOVAL, UM, BEFORE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PROCEED. 
          AND SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SAYING, YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. 
          UH, WITHOUT SEEING AN ACTUAL PLAN FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL TO REVIEW AND APPROVE. 
          AND IF, AND IF I CAN JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT POINT, IT IS NUMBER FOUR, THAT IS THE MOST CONCERNING AFTER ALL OF THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE WHEN THAT EASEMENT GOES THROUGH, IT LEAVES A WIDE, A WIDE WIDTH OF BEAR. 
          SO WHILE THERE'S MITIGATION IN TREES BEING REPLACED WITH, UM, ALL THE TREES BEING REPLACED WITH LIVE OAKS, MY QUESTION IS WHERE ARE THOSE, SO CUMULATIVELY THERE'S 20 TREES, TREES COMING DOWN, WHERE ARE THOSE REPLACEMENTS? ARE THEY ALL GOING BACK, UH, TREE FOR TREE IN EACH OF THE 1, 2, 3, 4 AREAS? OR ARE THEY ALL IN A SPECIFIC AREA? HOW IS THAT DISTRIBUTION? SO I THINK SEEING THAT SITE PLAN, THAT PLAN FOR NUMBER FOUR WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          I'M NOT BOTHERED BY WHETHER OR NOT IT'S WE PULL IT TONIGHT OR WHETHER WE SEE IT BEFORE SECOND READING. 
          BUT I DO WANT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON NUMBER FOUR IN PARTICULAR. 
          YEAH, I, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ADVANCE AT LEAST THE FIRST READING TONIGHT AND BRING, UM, THE, A PLAN TO SHARE WITH YOU, UM, ON ANY MITIGATION, ALL OF THE MITIGATION WILL OCCUR ON PROPERTY NUMBER FOUR. 
          MM-HMM. 
          ITEM, UH, AREAS ONE, TWO, AND THREE HAVE THAT DIRECTIONAL BORING. 
          THERE ARE NO, NO NO TREE IMPACTS. 
          THERE'S, UM, ON PROPERTY FOUR, THERE'S ALREADY A DRAINAGE CHANNEL THAT EXISTS. 
          AND THE PROPERTY IS JUST ACROSS THE WEXFORD CIRCLE RIGHT HERE. 
          UM, SO THERE IS A DRAINAGE FACILITY THERE, THERE IS A SHELF NEXT TO THAT. 
          THE AREA INITIALLY CONTEMPLATED FOR IMPACT WAS 40 FEET WIDE. 
          IT'S BEEN REDUCED DOWN TO 20 FEET. 
          UM, A LOT OF THAT IS ALONG THAT SHELF AREA THAT ALREADY EXISTS. 
          UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THE TREE IMPACTS. 
          UM, AND WE CAN, WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT A MITIGATION PLAN WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE REPLANTING OF THOSE 23 TREES BEFORE SECOND AND FINAL READING THAT REDUCTION IN IN WIDTH FROM 40 TO 20 IS SIGNIFICANT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          MR. DESMOND, JOHN, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT DETERMINES THAT PORTION TO BE, TO BE OPEN TRENCH? DID, DID THEY GIVE YOU A REASON OR THEY JUST RE JUST ASKED FOR THAT? THEY CURRENTLY IS THERE, THERE ALREADY 
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IS AN OPEN DRAINAGE CHANNEL ON THAT PROPERTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, THIS IS AN EASEMENT TO INSTALL THEIR WATER LINE THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN ON THE SOUTH END FOR THE CONVEYANCE OF WATER PROVISIONS, UH, TO THE SOUTH END OF THE ISLAND. 
          BUT, BUT HERE THEY REQUIRE, UH, 23 TREES TO BE REMOVED. 
          RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, IS I DON'T KNOW IF I'M UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THIS. 
          SO WHY IS IT, IS IT A STAGING PROBLEM? YEAH. 
          OR IS IT A BORING PROBLEM? I THINK IT'S, I THINK THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE WITH EQUIPMENT, UM, IN ORDER TO INSTALL THE LINE, UH, THROUGH THAT SECTION. 
          UM, AND THEY NEED TO OFFSET FROM THE DRAINAGE CHANNEL THAT EXISTS THERE. 
          SO THEY'RE GONNA DIG THE LINE AND NOT BORE THE LINE IN, I THINK FIRST A, A PORTION OF THAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO IT'S, AGAIN, SO IS IT JUST THEIR SUGGESTION THAT WE WOULD RATHER DO IT THIS WAY BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER? OR IS IT, OR HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED WITH YOU? WE, WE, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE ASKED THAT QUESTION TO THE SDI THINK IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT. 
          'CAUSE IF IT'S A STAGING SITUATION, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT, THAT WE COULD SAVE THE THREE OAK TREES AND DO A STAGING IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. 
          BUT NOT KNOWING EXACTLY THE CRUX OF THIS, UM, OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. 
          I CAN, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO, TO SAY. 
          SO MAYBE BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND READING, WE CAN HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL. 
          SURE. 
          YES SIR. 
          COULD WE GET A MORE DETAILED PLAN OF SECTION FOUR THAT WOULD OUTLINE WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, TREE AND TOPO, UM, SHOW WHERE THEIR STAGING WOULD BE MORE DETAILED? IS COUNCIL OKAY WITH SECTIONS ONE, TWO, AND THREE AS IDENTIFIED? JUST MORE DETAIL ON THE TREE MITIGATION AND THE CONSTRUCTION METHOD. 
          THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AS LONG AS THEY SHOW IT ALL IN THE ROOTS. 
          I SHOULD STOP HERE ON ONE, TWO, AND THREE. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. BROWN. 
          UM, YES. 
          UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD WRAPPED AROUND THE PROCESS HERE. 
          UH, WHEN OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES ARE DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK ON HILTON HEAD, DO THEY ALSO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PERMITTING PROCESS AS FAR AS SIR, AS CONSTRUCTION IS CONCERNED? YES, SIR. 
          THEY DO. 
          SO AT THAT POINT, UH, STAFF WILL BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS AROUND MITIGATION, THE PARTICULARS OF THE TREES AND SO ON. 
          AM I CORRECT IN THAT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IS THERE A MOTION ON THE TABLE, MR. BROWN? YES. 
          I MOVE TO CONSIDER ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND GRANTING EASEMENT TO SOUTH ISLAND PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE INSTALLATION. 
          THIS IS FIRST READING AND TO HAVE MORE DETAILED MITIGATION PLAN, ALONG WITH SECOND READING ON SECTION FOUR, SECTION FOUR ONLY. 
          THANK YOU, . 
          YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          YOU HAVE A SECOND. 
          UH, WE HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND HAND DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MOVING THE FIRST READING FORWARD, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          THOSE OPPOSED SIX TO ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, LET'S SEE, WHAT DO WE HAVE NEXT? WE HAVE 
          [8.f. Consideration of a Resolution of the Town of Hilton Head Island Approving the Recommendation from the Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee for the Calendar Year 2024 Grants - Adriana Burnett, Finance Director]
MR. JOHN MCGOWAN AGAIN, UH, CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN HIL HAD ON APPROVING THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ACCOMMODATIONS TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR 2024. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, TO SET THE TABLE FOR SOME, FOR SOME DETAILS TO FOLLOW, WE'D LIKE TO REVIEW SOME BACKGROUND FOR YOU ON THE STATE ACCOMMODATION TAX, INCLUDING THE STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR ITS DISTRIBUTION. 
          THE TOWN COLLECTS A 2% STATE ACCOMMODATION TAX ANNUALLY PER STATE LAW. 
          THE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED AS FOLLOWS. 
          UH, NUMBER ONE, THE FIRST 25,000 IS DIRECTED TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          THE, UH, 5% OF THE REMAINING BALANCE IS ALSO ALLOCATED TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          IN THE SCREENS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, 30% OF THE BALANCE IS RESERVED FOR THE TOWN'S DESIGNATED MARKETING ORGANIZATION. 
          IN OUR CASE, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR ADVERTISING AND PROMOTING TOURISM. 
          AND THE REMAINING BALANCE IS USED FOR TOURISM RELATED EXPENDITURES, WHICH MAY INCLUDE THE BULLET POINTS LISTED BELOW. 
          I WON'T GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE. 
          UH, BUT ULTIMATELY, THE PURPOSE OF THESE DISTRIBUTED FUNDS IS TO PROMOTE TOURISM AND ENHANCE THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF THE TOWN THROUGH ADVERTISING INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND SERVICES AIMED AT ATTRACTING AND ACCOMMODATING VISITORS AND THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE FUNDS RELATED TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS OUR, IS OUR FOCUS THIS AFTERNOON. 
          AS REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE, THE TOWN HAS FORMED AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT RECOMMENDS HOW THESE FUNDS ARE BEST USED GIVEN THAT PRIORITIES THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED. 
          THE TOWNS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS CHAIRED BY STEVEN ARNOLD, WHO IS WITH US TODAY, AND I'LL INTRODUCE SHORTLY EACH YEAR. 
          LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS SUBMIT APPLICATIONS DESIGNED TO ALIGN WITH THE GOALS WE'VE LISTED ABOVE. 
          ALL THESE APPLICATIONS ARE AVAILABLE, BY THE WAY, IN THE LINK THAT'S, UH, NEAR THE TOP OF THE FIRST PAGE OF THE STAFF MEMO. 
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UH, AND IT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL. 
          OBVIOUSLY, 34 ORGANIZATIONS APPLIED FOR FUNDING THIS YEAR. 
          UH, AND I'LL BRIEFLY GO OVER THE REVIEW PROCESS. 
          UH, THE TOWN STAFF SCREENS THE INITIAL APPLICATIONS, UM, REVIEWS THE APPLICATIONS FOR COMPLETENESS AND COMPLIANCE WITH SUBMISSION GUIDELINES, AND THE COMMITTEE EVALUATES THOSE PROPOSALS. 
          AND, UH, INCLUDING IN THAT, UH, EVALUATION IS, UM, HEARING THE APPLICATION PRESENTATIONS AND ULTIMATELY FINALIZING FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO THE COMMITTEE'S FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS WILL NOW BE PRESENTED BY MR. ARNOLD FOR YOUR REVIEW. 
          MR. ARNOLD? THANK YOU. 
          THANKS. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS COUNCIL, MR. TOWN MANAGER, MR. MAYOR. 
          UH, THE PACKAGE YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY REPRESENTS JUST A, A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE DAYS AND HOURS THAT GO INTO REVIEW, UH, STUDY, AND THEN LISTENING TO OUR APPLICANTS THAT COME IN TO PUT IN FOR THEIR REQUEST. 
          UM, THE PACKET YOU SEE HERE TODAY, YOU KNOW, AS WE LISTEN TO THESE APPLICANTS, WE LEARN MORE AND MORE ABOUT WHAT GOES INTO MAKING THIS ISLAND SPECIAL. 
          THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP US WITH THE ACCOMMODATION SIDE, THIS FINE COMES FROM THE ACCOMMODATIONS OF FOLKS CHOOSING TO COME AND SPEND THEIR TIME, EITHER IN SHORT-TERM RENTALS, LONG-TERM RENTALS, CAMPSITES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          UH, WE HAVE A T TALL TASK THIS YEAR NOT KNOWING WHAT THE FUNDS AVAILABLE WERE GONNA BE, UH, UNTIL LATE IN THE YEAR. 
          UM, WITH THE ELECTION TAKING PLACE, THE STATE HAD A DELAY IN GETTING US NUMBERS, SO WE WERE KINDA SHOOTING IN THE DARK. 
          SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU SEE HERE, UH, ON THE PASS OF $4,186,065, UH, CAME FROM US STUDYING WHAT WAS AVAILABLE LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS 4,282,328. 
          UH, FOLLOWING THE TREND OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON THE ISLAND, WE ANTICIPATE THERE BEING AN 8% DECREASE OF FUNDS AVAILABLE. 
          UM, WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION TO FULLY FUND THE ONES THAT WE, UH, FELT WERE APPROPRIATE. 
          THERE WERE A FEW ON THERE THAT WERE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR FULL FUNDING DUE TO TURK. 
          UH, THAT'S THREE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND THEN KNOWING THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO DECREASE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THIS YEAR, UH, THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF OTHERS THAT WE WENT BACK AND WE MATCHED AGAINST WHAT LAST YEAR'S TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED FOR THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          UH, SO WHEN YOU SEE THOSE LISTS IN YOUR PACKETS OF THE SIX TO EIGHT THAT DID NOT RECEIVE FULL RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WE WEIGH THOSE AGAINST WHAT IS THE RETURN ON THOSE INVESTMENT DOLLARS? UH, ARE THEY REALLY CONTRIBUTING TO ACCOMMODATIONS OR ARE THEY MORE OF AN ENHANCER? SO IT'S NOT A SLIGHT TO ANY OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE ONES THAT ARE TRIGGERING, UM, ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR THE ISLAND. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, WE WERE ANTICIPATING AN 8% DECREASE. 
          THE LAST NUMBER WE GOT IN COMES MORE AROUND 11% DOWN FROM LAST YEAR. 
          BUT IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT 2020 UP TO 2025, WE'RE UP 46%. 
          SO, UH, EACH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH A PANDEMIC, THAT'S WHEN WE SAW THE INFLUX AND EACH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, ORGANIZATIONS STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND HELPED, UM, DRINK FROM THAT FIRE HOSE, AND THEY DID THEIR PARTS. 
          NOW, AS THINGS ARE COMING BACK TO MORE OF A NORMALCY, EVEN THOUGH THAT INCREASE IS WELL ABOVE WHAT IT WAS IN 2019 AND 2020, UH, THE ORGANIZATIONS ARE STILL FIGHTING INFLATION ISSUES, STAFFING ISSUES, UM, THE ABILITY TO HOUSE THEIR EMPLOYEES. 
          SO, UH, I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL ANSWER THOSE. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, REAL QUICK, WE'LL GO THROUGH COUNSEL FIRST TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, FOR MR. ARNOLD, MS. TONER. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, I'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF QUESTIONS AND, AND MAYBE MARK OR OUR MANAGER OR A FINANCE DIRECTOR CAN ANSWER, BUT ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE OVERALL LEVEL OF FUNDING. 
          UM, THE SECOND HAS TO DO WITH INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS, AND THE THIRD IS PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO IN REGARDS TO THE OVERALL LEVEL OF FUNDING, UM, I APPRECIATE LAST NIGHT, UM, AN EXHIBIT WAS SENT OUT THAT LAID OUT, UM, HOW MUCH WE COLLECT, WELL, HOW MUCH WE START WITH A BALANCE, HOW MUCH WE COLLECT, AND THEN ALL OF THE MAJOR CATEGORIES OF SPEND WITHIN STATE A TAX, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S MANDATORY MONEY, UH, THAT'S SPENT THROUGH THE DMO AND THE GENERAL FUND. 
          AND THEN THERE'S DISCRETIONARY AREAS FOR AT TAX, HOUSING, OUR GENERAL FUND OVER THE MANDATORY LEVEL AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS. 
          SO I KNOW I WATCHED, UH, YOUR TAPES AND I, I REALLY WANNA COMPLIMENT YOU ON, UH, HOW YOU MANAGE THE COMMITTEE AND YOU GUYS WORK TOGETHER THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          UM, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WAS ORIGINALLY DIRECTION GIVEN THAT THE, UH, TARGETED LEVEL WAS $3.9 MILLION. 
          AND SO I HAD A QUESTION AS TO HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL FOR FUNDING FOR ATEX GRANTS? MR. ROLANDO, YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? YES. 
          I, I'LL HELP WITH THAT. 
          UM, AND I'LL JUST KIND OF BACK UP A LITTLE BIT TO, TO TRY TO 
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AT LEAST EXPLAIN THE DISCREPANCY IN SOME OF THESE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW, AS, AS OF TODAY, I HAD A PRINTOUT FROM FINANCE EARLIER TODAY. 
          WE'VE COLLECTED, SO AT FOUR QUARTERS, WE'VE COLLECTED THREE QUARTERS, AND WE'RE WAITING ON THE FOURTH QUARTER. 
          THE, THE FIRST QUARTER WAS UP 12% YEAR OVER YEAR THIS YEAR, LAST YEAR, THE SECOND QUARTER WAS DOWN 8.7%. 
          THE THIRD QUARTER WAS UP 2.8%. 
          AND WHEN ADRIANA BURNETT, OUR, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, WHO HAS NOT YET BEEN HERE A YEAR, AND I, AND I DID TALK TO MS. TURNER AND SAID, I THINK ADRIANA SPENDING A YEAR HERE IS GOING TO PAIR OUT THE, THE, THE WANTS AND THE NEEDS FOR US. 
          AND WHEN ADRIANA, UH, WENT IN FRONT OF THE AT TAX COMMITTEE, WE, WE DID NOT YET HAVE THOSE THIRD QUARTER FIGURES. 
          WE, WE SIMPLY HAD THE FIRST TWO QUARTER FIGURES IN THE, IN THE FINAL TWO QUARTER PROJECTIONS. 
          SO AT THAT TIME, ADRIANA PROJECTED A 3.891 AVAILABLE. 
          UM, WHEN THE DOLLARS CAME IN, ADRIANA SHARED WITH CHAIR AND AT THAT, THAT HER UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT 4.113 WAS AVAILABLE. 
          AND SO THOSE NUMBERS CHANGED ONCE WE STARTED TO REALIZE OUR ACTUALS, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE SAW FIRST QUARTER, GOOD, BUT SECOND QUARTER DOWN, 8.7%, WHERE LAST YEAR, SECOND QUARTER WAS DOWN 3.7% YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          SO WE STARTED TO, WE STARTED TO JUST TO, TO BE FRANK ABOUT IT, BE REALLY CONCERNED INTERNALLY TO HAVE THE MINDSET OF JUST MORE AND MORE AND MORE DISTRIBUTION RATHER THAN REALLY START UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR REVENUES ARE DOING. 
          FOR A POINT OF REFERENCE, FOR A POINT OF REFERENCE, EXCUSE ME, AT TAX SOUTH CAROLINA AT TAX IN 2020 COLLECTED WAS 6.4 MILLION AT TAX COLLECTED IN 2022, WENT TWO YEARS LATER FROM 6.4 TO 13.569 MILLION. 
          WE ARE NOW PROJECTING DOWN TO 12.8. 
          SO ADRIANA IS, IS REALLY ESTIMATING THE FUNDS AVAILABLE. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT I THINK THAT OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER DID A GOOD JOB BY TRYING TO SAY, BASED ON YEAR OVER YEAR DISTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH GRANTS DISTRIBUTION FOR THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT MR. MCGOWAN WENT OVER FIRST 20 5K TO GENERAL FUND, 5% TO GENERAL, 30% TO DMO, THOSE SOUTH CAROLINA REQUIRED DISTRIBUTIONS. 
          ADRIANA SIMPLY TOOK A LOOK AT THE TRENDS AND MADE THAT PROJECTION. 
          AND SO HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THAT AVAILABLE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT, THAT, I THINK IS, IS THE GOLD THE GOLDEN QUESTION HERE. 
          WE DON'T, WE, WE HAVE IN YEARS PAST ALWAYS RESPONDED TO THE REQUIREMENTS DIFFERENT THAN THE GRANT APPLICATIONS, DIFFERENT WHAT'S LEFT OVER. 
          I HAVE MADE, I HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT PRACTICE HERE SINCE I'VE ARRIVED. 
          I'VE PUT MORE DOLLARS IN CAPITAL PROGRAMMING FOR PATHWAYS. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A GREATER INVESTMENT IN PATHWAY. 
          UM, I'VE ALSO ADDED, UM, AS, AS OUR, AS OUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES WENT UP, I USED UTILIZED SC AND STATE A TAX FOR THOSE OPERATIONS. 
          SO WE, WE'VE ALWAYS, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN PLAYING THIS, YOU KNOW, I CALL IT DOUBLE DUTCH SKIP SKIPPING ROPE EXERCISE WHERE CALENDAR YEAR ARE THE AT TAX GRANT APPLICATIONS. 
          AND WE TREMENDOUSLY VALUE YOUR ROLE AS CHAIR AND WE TREMENDOUSLY VALUE THE WORK THE AT TAX COMMITTEE DOES AND ALL THE NONPROFITS. 
          BUT WE'VE ALWAYS JUST RESPONDED TO WHAT'S LEFT AFTER THE AT TAX GRANTS ARE DISTRIBUTED. 
          I'VE PROPOSED, AND, AND, AND I DID NOT GET TO IT YET THIS YEAR, UM, WITH ADRIANA ON BOARD NOW, AND, AND WE SEE JOHN COMING IN STRIDE HERE. 
          JOHN MCGOWAN, WHO'S OUR ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR, BRINGING YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH, WITH THE NEW FINANCE COMMITTEE AS ESTABLISHED, UH, A BEST PRACTICES, UH, GAME PLAN AND AN ASSOCIATED POLICY OF DIS A RECOMMENDED POLICY OF DISTRIBUTION. 
          I SUGGEST THAT I WORK WITH MY TEAM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. 
          THERE ARE PLACES THAT DO THIS DIFFERENTLY. 
          UM, I THINK THE TUG OF WAR IS WHO GETS PAID FIRST, WHO GETS PAID LAST, THAT THAT'S THE ISSUE. 
          WE ARE NOT PROPOSING AT ALL TO PAY THE, THE NONPROFITS LAST. 
          THEY, THEY, THEY ARE IN LINE AND WE SEE THIS TONIGHT. 
          THEY ARE IN LINE SECOND AFTER THOSE REQUIRED DISTRIBUTIONS. 
          HOPEFULLY THAT, THAT'S A LONG ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT THAT I BELIEVE ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          AND I APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING TO DOING 
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SOME PROCESS IMPROVEMENT AND USING SOME BEST PRACTICES TO DETERMINE WHAT THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL IS, UH, FOR ATEX GRANTS. 
          SO MOVING ON TO INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS, I DID HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSE OWNERS ASSOCIATION, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE. 
          IT WENT FROM 100,000 TO 200,000 IN REGARDS TO THEIR REQUEST. 
          SO THEY DOUBLED IT, WHICH WAS LARGE COMPARED TO OTHERS. 
          AND IF YOU CAN TELL ME MORE ABOUT THAT AND ALSO EXPLAIN THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DMO, UH, AS THIS ORGANIZATION ALSO RECEIVES FUNDING FROM THE DMO AT, WHICH COMES FROM OUR ATEX DOLLARS AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          UH, THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSE OWNERS ASSOCIATION, THERE USED TO BE A, UH, SUPPLEMENTAL GRANT PUT IN BY THE DMO. 
          AND AS PART OF THAT FUNDING, UM, THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSE OWNERS ASSOCIATION RECEIVED A GOOD PORTION OF THEIR FUNDING FROM THAT REQUEST. 
          UH, WITH THAT BEING TAKEN OFF OF THE AVAILABLE FUNDS, THEY DO ALL OF THE WORK BY THEMSELVES NOW. 
          SO WHAT THEY USED TO TAKE ON BY THEMSELVES, SO THEY'RE PRINTED MATERIAL, BRINGING IN WRITERS PROMOTING GOLF ON THE ISLAND, WHICH IS THE NUMBER ONE ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTOR. 
          UM, IT WAS, THEY, THEY NEED TO DO THE WORK THEMSELVES. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING COMING FROM THE DMO. 
          THEY DO HAVE THE SUPPORT FROM THE DMO THROUGH THE WEBSITE LEANING TO THEM, BUT THEY ARE ACTIVELY GOING OUT AND PROMOTING THE GAME OF GOLF THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. 
          SO THEY RECEIVED $200,000 IN DMO FUNDING IN THE PRIOR YEAR. 
          SO I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER WAS THERE. 
          I BELIEVE THREE YEARS AGO THE REQUEST WAS MAYBE 50,000, AND THEN THEY WENT UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          AND THEN WHEN THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING WAS TAKEN OFF, UH, WHAT WAS AVAILABLE, THE NEED FOR THEM TO SUPPLEMENT THAT FUNDING WAS THERE. 
          SO THEY INCREASED THEIR ASK TO 200,000. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I KNOW YOU HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION REGARDING THE ROTARY CLUB AND THE, UM, QUENCH WHICH BUCKET OR THE WATER TANK? YES, THE WATER TANK. 
          THE WATER TANK, YEAH. 
          AND, UM, I KNOW YOU WERE HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSION AS TO WHETHER IT WOULD BE TURK ELIGIBLE AND ALL THAT. 
          IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT CONVERSATION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, THE WATER TANK, THE IDEA IS TO HAVE A PORTABLE WATER TANK THAT GOES TO DIFFERENT EVENTS, UM, TO REDUCE THE, THE PLASTIC BOTTLE USAGE. 
          UM, THE QUESTION FROM THE ACCOMMODATION TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS, IS THAT ELIGIBLE FROM TURK? WE WEREN'T CERTAIN WE WERE A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND THE IDEA OF SUPPORTING IT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO TURN THAT OVER TO YOU GUYS AND TO THE STATE TO SEE IF THAT IS ELIGIBLE. 
          UM, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE RECOMMENDATION OF FULL FUNDING OF 40,000 FOR THAT. 
          WE THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA. 
          IT SUPPORTS WHAT THIS ISLAND IS ABOUT, OF TAKING CARE OF OUR RESOURCES AROUND US. 
          UH, AND IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT USE OF FUNDING FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. 
          AND THEN LESLIE, FROM A PROCESS POINT OF VIEW, UM, I UNDERSTOOD THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS FROM SOME ORGANIZATIONS. 
          THEY FEEL PRESSURE IF THEY HAVE EVENTS IN THE FIRST QUARTER AND THE TIMING OF THE FUNDING, AND IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK FOR SOME PROCESS IMPROVEMENT THERE. 
          AND THEN AT ANOTHER TIME, IT MIGHT BE GREAT TO SIT DOWN AND SEE WHAT OTHER TYPE OF PROCESS IMPROVEMENT. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT A GOOD PROCESS NOW, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS BUILD AND IMPROVE. 
          SO IT'D BE GREAT TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. 
          YEAH, THAT WAS, UH, MY CLOSING REMARKS. 
          UM, THE COMMENTS AND REQUESTS FROM THE APPLICANTS WERE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE EVENTS HAPPENED FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR. 
          TYPICALLY, THIS IS PRESENTED TO YOU IN NOVEMBER, BUT WITH THE ELECTION AND THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD OF TOWN COUNCIL, THIS, IT GOT MOVED INTO JANUARY, UH, THEY DID REQUEST THAT. 
          WE REMIND YOU THAT THEY'RE WAITING TOO. 
          SO, AND IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO GET THE WORK DONE THAT THEY NEED DONE WHEN THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE APPROVAL. 
          UH, THIS IS REIMBURSABLE DOLLARS TO THEM AS WELL. 
          BUT I THINK THEY JUST WOULD LIKE THE GREEN LIGHT KNOWING THAT THEY'RE SAFE TO SPEND THEIR MARKETING DOLLARS TO PROMOTE THEIR EVENTS. 
          UH, IT'S AGAIN, A TIMING THING. 
          THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT REALLY DOES PUT THEM BEYOND THE EIGHT BALL. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. BROWN? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, THANK YOU MR. ARNOLD FOR YES, SIR. 
          YOUR GOOD WORK WITH YOUR TEAM. 
          UH, MY FIRST QUESTION IS FOR, UH, STAFF MR. ORLANDO. 
          UM, WHAT'S BEFORE US, UM, AS FAR AS RECOMMENDATIONS ARE CONCERNED, HAVE THEY BEEN VETTED FOR TURK UH, REQUIREMENTS? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          HAVE BEEN VETTED FOR TURK REQUIREMENTS BY STAFF, AND THEN IN ALIGNMENT WITH, WITH COMMITTEE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THREE THAT WE HAVE HERE, I WOULD SAY TO OUR BEST ABILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE THREE HERE THAT, UH, THERE WAS A REDUCTION BASED ON TURK REQUIREMENTS. 
          AM I CORRECT IN THAT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UM, 'CAUSE FIRST I WANT TO SORT OF TAKE, UH, COUNCILMAN THOMAS', UH, THOUGHTS A LITTLE FURTHER. 
          AND, UH, WELCOME TO THE FINANCE TEAM, BY THE WAY. 
          LOOKING FORWARD TO IMPROVING THOSE PROCESSES, AS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT. 
          UM, AND I LIKE WHERE THE TOWN MANAGER IS GOING AS FAR AS US PUTTING TOGETHER, UH, SOME TYPE OF BEST PRACTICE. 
          UM, THAT ALSO GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GONNA BE EBB AND FLOWS OF OUR ECONOMY, SO WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WAY THAT WE ALLOCATE THE AT TAX FUNDING. 
          UM, I THINK WE PUT THE AT TAX COMMITTEE IN SORT OF A PECULIAR SITUATION HERE THIS YEAR, UM, WITH NOT REALLY HAVING A FIRM NUMBER 
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TO CHASE. 
          UM, SO I COMMEND YOU ON YOUR EFFORTS, UM, BUT AS I'M, I'M PROPOSING THIS TO THE REST OF COUNCIL AS I LOOK AT THIS, UM, I THINK THERE'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU ALL ARE RECOMMENDING PARTIAL FUNDING, UH, TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT, UM, ONCE WE TAKE AWAY THE, THE TURK, UH, ABOUT $44,000. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UH, I GUESS WE CAN DESCRIBE IT AS A SHORTAGE BETWEEN WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND WHAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, LITTLE NORTH OF A HUNDRED K IS WHAT WE'RE SORT OF ARGUING HERE. 
          AND, UM, BEING THAT THE TOWN MANAGER IS GOING TO BE WORKING VERY HARD AS TO HOW HE MANIPULATES OUR BUDGET DELIBERATIONS, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL AS IF IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO CUT THE FUNDING FROM PARTICULAR ORGANIZATIONS. 
          UM, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE TO SAY THAT THEY DON'T DESERVE THE MONEY, BUT YOU WERE UP AGAINST A NUMBER AND TRYING TO GET BELOW. 
          UM, AND BEING THAT, UH, THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE LOOKING TO, TO GET GOING, UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET, UH, THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO PERFORM AGAINST. 
          UM, I, I JUST THINK THAT THIS A HUNDRED K OR SO, UM, THE TOWN MANAGER HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD IN THE PAST ABOUT MOVING THINGS AROUND, UH, THAT WE CONSIDER FULL FUNDING FOR ALL OF THE ORGANIZATION, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BECKER. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THANK YOU STEVE, AND TO THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE FOR ALL THE HARD WORK. 
          I KNOW HOW MANY HOURS I REMEMBER SITTING AND, AND WATCHING FOR, UH, THOSE MEETINGS, UM, LIVE. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF TEDIOUS WORK, AND I APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, TALK ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS, BUT FIRST I WANTED ASK MAYOR, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS? ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE AND SO DISCUSS THEM OR? YEAH. 
          SO WHAT I WAS GONNA DO IS HAVE A LITTLE CONVERSATION, UM, BUT IT'S GONNA BE UP TO US TO GO THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANNA FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN EITHER ACCEPT IT AS, AS A WHOLE, UM, OR WE, WE CAN GO THROUGH IT INDIVIDUALLY IF, IF THERE'S CERTAIN ONES THAT YOU WANNA DISCUSS PARTICULARLY MM-HMM . 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM. 
          UM, BUT IF THERE, THERE ARE ONES THAT PARTICULARLY YOU WANT TO ADDRESS AND ADDRESS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND DO THAT NOW. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE THEN WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, CONTACT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WELL, I ASK FOR YOUR PATIENCE THEN, BECAUSE I DO. 
          UM, OVERALL, I REALIZE THAT WE HAVE A BUNDLE OF MONEY AND WE ARE, AS WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR AUDITOR IN A REALLY GOOD SHAPE IN THE TOWN. 
          UM, AND WE ALL ARE THRILLED BY THAT NEWS AND COMFORTED THAT WE RANK IN THE TOP TIER FINANCIALLY OF COMMUNITIES AND GOVERNMENTS. 
          SO, UM, CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE FOR THAT. 
          BUT IN MY MIND, THAT DOESN'T NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE ARE A, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD, AN OPEN CHECKBOOK. 
          AND SO WHEN I LOOK THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS, ONE THAT I APPRECIATE IS, UM, IS THAT THE ATEC COMMITTEE HAS WORKED TO ESTABLISH A CONSISTENT PHILOSOPHY IN HOW APPLICATIONS ARE REVIEWS AND PRIORITIZED. 
          AND ONE THAT YOU LIST HERE THAT I AM VERY, VERY, UM, COGNIZANT OF AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO IS WHAT IS THE ORGANIZATION'S LONG-TERM DEPENDENCY ON ATEX FUNDING GOING TO BE? DO ESTABLISHED A APPLICANT ORGANIZATIONS HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES WITHOUT AN ATEX AWARD FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR AND BEYOND? AND DO ORGANIZATIONS WITH STRONG BALANCE SHEETS HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THEIR CASH RESERVES? AND THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS, UM, PROCESS AND THE USE OF THESE FUNDS. 
          IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AN EMBEDDED PORTION OF EACH ORGANIZATION'S BUDGET. 
          AND THAT AT SOME POINT, THEIR REVENUES, THEIR GRANTS, THEIR DONATIONS, ET CETERA, SHOULD BEGIN TO OFFSET WHAT IT IS THAT COMES THROUGH AS A ATEX, UM, GRANT. 
          AND YET, WHEN I LOOK THROUGH ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THESE, NOT NOT ALL, BUT ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THESE YEAR OVER YEAR, WITHIN SHORT TERM 21 TO 24, 25, WE'RE LOOKING AT SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN THEIR ASK. 
          AND, UM, NOT NECESSARILY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN THE PRODUCTION OF THE TOURIST DRAW AND MONEY SPENT. 
          AND THAT'S BOTHERSOME TO ME. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS FITS IN, IN TERMS OF HOW WE START TO REVIEW THESE AS A COUNCIL. 
          MAYBE IT'S PART OF WHAT, UM, OUR 
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TOWN MANAGER HAS MENTIONED WITH REGARD TO THE WORK THAT HE'LL BE DOING. 
          BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST YEARS I'VE MADE SIMILAR COMMENTS. 
          I, I, AND I REALLY DON'T MIND MAKING COMMENTS, BUT I REALLY WANNA SEE SOME ACTION ON US GOING BACK TO THE FUNDAMENTAL THAT, UM, YOU GUYS HAVE STATED HERE AS SOME OF YOUR, UM, PHILOSOPHY, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND HAVING, AND HAVING SAID THAT, UM, ONE ORGANIZATION, AND WHILE I LOVE THE CONCEPT AS WELL, AND THERE'S NOTHING FRANKLY ABOUT ANY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ISN'T TO LOVE. 
          I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL DOING GOOD WORK, ET CETERA, BUT IT, THAT'S NOT THE, THAT'S NOT REALLY THE POINT OF, OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT. 
          UM, IT WAS MENTIONED THE, UH, THE QUENCH BUGGY, WHICH IS A NEW ORGANIZATION, IT'S A NEW STARTUP, IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTALLY, UM, UH, NEW CO-OP I THINK IS, IS IN AN EFFORT TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CO-OP OUT OF THE ROTARY. 
          AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR $40,000. 
          I, I'M NOT SURE THAT I SEE, UM, AT THIS TIME ANY EVIDENCE THAT THESE FUNDS SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THAT EFFORT MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO IT WOULD BE MY, UM, VOTE NOT TO FUND THAT, AS I BELIEVE Y'ALL INITIALLY IN YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS HAD ALSO, UM, PUT IN THERE. 
          SO THAT'S ONE, UM, ON, AND I'M JUST GONNA GO IN OVER THESE IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, UM, AS THEY'RE SITTING HERE IN FRONT OF ME. 
          ANOTHER ONE THAT I FIND A BIT BOTHERSOME IS THE OUTSIDE FOUNDATION. 
          AND NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING GREAT WORK, UM, BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR $72,000. 
          AND AS I LOOK THROUGH, UM, HOW THE GRANT FUNDING WOULD BE USED, I'M BOTHERED TO SEE THAT. 
          UM, SO MARKETING, SOCIAL MANAGER, MEDIA MANAGER, COMPENSATION TIME OVER TIME, UM, FOR EACH EVENT IS RATHER SUBSTANTIAL. 
          AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STRUCK ME ON THAT ONE. 
          ON ANOTHER, IN A MORE POSITIVE NOTE, AND AGAIN, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, I NOTICED THAT THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND, ST. 
          PATRICK'S DAY PARADE HAS BEEN, UM, THEY, THEIR ASK WAS 80,000, BUT THEIR GRANT WAS 68,388. 
          UM, AND IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, AND BASED ON THE DOCUMENTS AND THE, THE OBSERVATIONS OVER THE YEARS, THAT IS A, UM, ORGANIZATION THAT IS AN EVENT THAT DRAWS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TOURISTS TO THE ISLAND. 
          SO THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF OUR 68 OR THEIR ASK OF 80,000, UM, IS, IS MORE THAN WARRANTED. 
          AND SO IN THAT CASE, I WOULD ASK THAT WE FULLY FUND THEM. 
          UH, IN REGARD TO THAT ONE, I WOULD SAY THAT WAS A TURK RESTRICTION YES. 
          JUMP IN ANYWHERE. 
          THAT WAS A, I BELIEVE A, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS NOT ONE OF THE TURK RESTRICTIONS. 
          I THINK WE, UH, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO TUNE DOWN. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND, AND THEN IT JUST AS, AS BY WAY OF COMMENT, ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS AT AN ASK OF 23,000, A GRANT OF 20, AND THIS MAY HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN A CHURCH, UM, BUT I'LL, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN, IS THE HILTON HEAD DANCE THEATER, WHICH IS INCREDIBLY, UM, WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION AND DOES A LOT OF, UM, WONDERFUL PERFORMANCE. 
          UH, WHAT I NOTICED IN THERE, UM, LOOKING AT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PHYSICAL TOURISTS, VISITORS, TOURISTS, AND RESIDENTS SERVED. 
          AND THIS YEAR, UM, FOR THE FIRST TIME HAVING TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS WHO DANCED IN ANOTHER, UH, IN ANOTHER TOWN IN ANOTHER PLACE, THE NUTCRACKER OF THOSE WHO ATTEND OUT OF STATE, IT'S USUALLY LIKE, UM, OUR GRANDDAUGHTERS, THEIR GRANDPARENTS WHO ARE COMING IN. 
          AND SO I WONDER ABOUT THE EXTENT OF THE ACTUAL VISITORS COMING TO THE ISLAND AND THE MONIES BEING SPENT, UM, BECAUSE MAYBE LIKELY THEY'RE STAYING IN, IN, UM, PRIVATE HOMES. 
          UM, ANOTHER ONE, AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH, UM, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE WITH, UM, ON THIS ONE EARLIER, THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSE OWNERS ASSOCIATION. 
          I'M BOTHERED BY THIS ON MANY LEVELS AND I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE FUNDING OF THAT. 
          THE, UM, NEXT ONE, AND I'M RUN, I'M COMING TO A CLOSE ON THESE. 
          UM, I, I WONDER, UM, AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE MY LACK OF EXPERIENCE WITH THEM BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE SUCH A CLOSED EVENT, SO I PREFACE IT WITH THAT. 
          UM, THE LONG HO CLUB, UM, AND THE 61 60 $5,450 ASK THAT THEY GIVE. 
          I WOULD JUST WONDER A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT WHEN THEY SPOKE TO Y'ALL ABOUT HOW REALLY OPEN IS THAT SO THAT, UM, ANYONE CAN GO IN AND PARTICIPATE, VISIT, WATCH, OR IS THAT PRETTY MUCH ANOTHER SITUATION? NO, THAT ONE'S NOT A CLOSED DOOR. 
          IT IS OPEN FOR PARTICIPANTS TO COME IN AND SEE, UH, THIS ONE IS VERY 
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CLOSE TO THE HEART FOR EVERYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE OF THE EXPOSURE IT PUTS ON THE ISLAND. 
          IT WAS THE FIRST NATIONALLY TELEVISED NCAA WOMEN'S TOURNAMENT. 
          IT CONTINUES TO BE THAT, AND IT FALLS JUST SEVERAL WEEKS BEFORE THE HERITAGE TOURNAMENT. 
          SO THE ADS THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THAT BUILDS ON THAT, IT BUILDS ON ALL OF IT. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. 
          SURE. 
          UM, AND UM, AND, AND THEN I'M GONNA SKIP TO THIS ONE, THEN GO TO MY LAST ONE. 
          UM, IN MATTER OF PROCESS THAT WE'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION SO FAR ABOUT HERE TONIGHT, I WOULD ASK THIS OF ALL FUTURE, UM, APPLICATE APPLICANTS WHEN THEY'RE FILLING OUT THEIR GRANT APPLICATION. 
          UM, THERE IS ONE APPLICATION THAT AS I READ THROUGH IT, I HAD DIFFICULTY, UM, WITH IT BECAUSE OF THIS. 
          TWO THINGS. 
          THEY'RE ASKING FOR $29,000, THEIR TOTAL BUDGET IS 78 AND A HALF, ROUGHLY THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          BUT WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE INTENDED USE OF THE GRANT AND HOW THE MONIES WOULD BE, WOULD BE USED, WHAT SOME OF THE COMMENTS IS AT THE EVENT ATTRACTS ROUGHLY 9,000 PEOPLE. 
          THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. 
          IT'S A 12% INCREASE OVER 23. 
          AND THOSE THINGS, UM, ARE IMPRESSIVE. 
          BUT THEN WHEN IT SPEAKS TO HOW DO THEY DETERMINE WHO ARE THE TOURISTS, THOSE MORE THAN 50 MILES AWAY FROM HILTON HEAD OR VISITORS CLOSER THAN 50 MILES, UM, TO HILTON HEAD OR THE RESIDENTS SERVED, IT'S THE, UM, THEY BASE THAT ON BUS AND TROLLEY RIDERSHIP AND VISUAL INSPECTION OF THE CROWD. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE I KIND OF GOT STUCK. 
          I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE ASK THEM ALL THE APPLICANTS TO PLEASE GIVE MORE DEFINITIVE ANSWERS. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT Y'ALL, BUT I COULDN'T LOOK OUT HERE AND TELL, WELL, I KNOW MANY OF YOU. 
          SO THAT'S THIS BAD EXAMPLE, BUT INTO ANY CROWD AND BE ABLE TO TELL YOU HOW FAR AWAY THEY CAME TO HILTON HEAD. 
          AND YOU, YOU GET THE REST OF THAT PICTURE. 
          SO THAT'S A SPECIFIC REQUEST IN TERMS OF PROCESS FOR THE FUTURE. 
          UM, AND THEN I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO, IF, IF AN ORGANIZATION, ANY ORGANIZATION IS GOING TO USE A SURVEY, THEN THEN KEEPING IT, UM, CONSISTENT YEAR OVER YEAR SO THAT THAT DATA CAN ACTUALLY BE COMPARED, UM, RATHER THAN USING OLD DATA. 
          AND THEN A PROMISE FOR THE FUTURE DATA ALSO IS KIND OF THE SAME FEELING. 
          IT FEELS A LITTLE TOO SQUISHY AND DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T GIVE ME THE SOLID INFORMATION THAT I NEED AS I READ THROUGH THESE. 
          AND THEN THE LAST ONE, WHICH, UM, I'M HAVING TROUBLE AND I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE TO SUPPORT, IS AN ORGANIZATION WHO IS FOR THE MOST PART, A HUNDRED PERCENT, UM, ONLINE. 
          AND SO ALL OF THEIR EFFORTS, WHILE THEY'RE COMMENDABLE ON SO MANY LEVELS, UM, ARE BASED ON INTERACTIONS THAT FOLKS CAN HAVE WITH AN ONLINE EXPERIENCE. 
          AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT ON RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR ACCOMMODATIONS, FOLKS GOING TO RESTAURANTS AND, AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO TO EXPERIENCE HILTON HEAD, IT'S TOUGH TO DO THAT. 
          RIGHT? AND THESE FOLKS ARE ASKING FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          I DON'T SEE HOW WE JUSTIFY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT Y'ALL HEARD AND HOW YOU MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION. 
          YEAH, THAT'S ONE THAT WE'VE, UH, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH AS WELL, BUT THEY KINDA SERVE AS THE SWITCHBOARD FOR A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS. 
          AND, BUT THEY ARE NOT THE DMO AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY THEIR ROLE, BUT THE DATA THAT THEY HAVE AND THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING TO THAT CONSUMER THAT IS MAKING THE DECISION TO COME TO HILTON HEAD FUNNELS THROUGH THEIR WEBSITE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY DATA. 
          WE DON'T IN THE REPORT THAT GIVES US ANY INDICATION THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING. 
          IN FACT, IT SAYS JUST THE OPPOSITE, THAT THE, THE, UM, PRIMARY EXPERIENCE IS, UM, FROM THE ONLINE VIEWING AND INTERACTION, RETURN TO CLICK AGAIN OR, OR AS THE CASE MAY BE. 
          AND I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THESE FUNDS. 
          UH, TO, TO ECHO YOUR REQUEST ON THE DATA, THAT'S THE THE QUESTION WE ASK FROM EVERYBODY AS WELL. 
          HOW ARE YOU COLLECTING YOUR DATA? WHAT METHODS ARE YOU USING? HOW CONSISTENT ARE YOU WITH THAT AS WELL? SOME PEOPLE, THEY JUST LEAVE A NOTEBOOK AND, YOU KNOW, WRITE DOWN YOUR ZIP CODES. 
          WELL, THAT DOESN'T REALLY HELP US, RIGHT? SO DEFINE CONSISTENCY ACROSS ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS WHERE THEY CAN ASK THOSE PRIMARY QUESTIONS OF HOW FAR ARE YOU COMING? HOW MANY NIGHTS ARE YOU STAYING? UH, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN HERE? THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS ARE VERY BENEFICIAL TO US TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS. 
          IT'S REALLY HARD TO MAKE A DECISION WHEN, UM, SOMEBODY'S KEEPING A HANDWRITTEN LOG AND TRYING TO, TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEIR TOURISM DOLLARS ARE COMING FROM. 
          UM, THE TICKETING, GOING BACK TO THE DANCE THEATER OR OTHERS, THE SAME SITUATION OF SOMEBODY, ONE CREDIT CARD COULD BE PURCHASING THE, THE FIVE TICKETS AND THEY HAVE GUESTS COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT ARE RENTING. 
          BUT BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE AND YOUR CHILD IS PARTICIPATING, YOU'RE BUYING ALL THE TICKETS, THEY'RE USING YOUR ZIP CODE. 
          SO IT'S SORT OF A, UH, A BACKWARDS NOTCH FOR THAT ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE FULL CREDIT FOR WHAT'S REALLY COMING IN TO SEE THAT. 
          SO, AND WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHERE WE'RE WEIGHING THIS OF, WE KNOW THAT EVERYBODY THAT GOES TO SEE THE NUTCRACKER, THEY'RE NOT ALL FROM HILTON HEAD, WE KNOW THAT, BUT THE DATA THAT'S COLLECTED 
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FROM THE CREDIT CARDS OR TICKET SALES AT THE GATES, THEY'RE NOT, THAT, THAT DATA'S NOT AVAILABLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I THINK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THIS LEVEL OF DOLLARS BEING SPENT AND REINVESTED INTO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE, IT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO. 
          UM, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY. 
          AND, AND I DON'T MEAN THAT BY SCRUTINIZING NECESSARILY THE DATA THAT'S COMING IN LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM, THOUGH WE SHOULD, I'M, I'M JUST ASKING THAT THE ORGANIZATIONS THEMSELF TIGHTEN UP AND GIVE US BETTER DATA TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT AND FEEL MORE CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE MAKING A GOOD INVESTMENT, UM, WITH, WITH THOSE DOLLARS. 
          AND THEN JUST TO FINISH UP AND REITERATE THAT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MONEY DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE SHOULD BE SPENDING IT BECAUSE SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SO HERE WE GO. 
          WE'RE GOING TO SAY YES. 
          I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP THE, UM, PROCEDURES. 
          I'M NOT COMFORTABLE, UM, WITHOUT HAVING FINAL NUMBERS. 
          UM, I'M CERTAINLY NOT COMFORTABLE, UM, RECOMMENDING FULL, UM, UM, APPROVAL OF ALL OF THE DOLLARS, UM, EVEN GOING OVER AND ABOVE WHAT OUR, UM, CFO OF THE TOWN HAS RECOMMENDED. 
          AND IN SOME OF THESE, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I DO NOT SEE THE JUSTIFICATION, UM, UH, FOR THE, FOR GRANTING ANY DOLLAR. 
          BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          AND EVERYONE'S PATIENCE FOR LISTENING TO ME ON THOSE ITEMS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. BRYSON. 
          FIRST OF ALL, MR. ARNOLD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE. 
          I DID, I DID, UH, WATCH THE VIDEO, UH, OF THE FINAL DECISIONS, THE THREE ROUNDS OR THREE PASSES AND, AND, AND THE, UM, THE TOUGH CONSIDERATION OF WHAT TO DO WITHOUT KNOWING THE FULL NUMBERS. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I I THINK YOUR COMMITTEE WAS DOING A GREAT JOB AT DOING THE BEST THEY COULD WITH THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAD. 
          UM, AND JUST ONE OTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE, UM, THE RHETORIC CLUB'S REQUEST FOR 40,000. 
          IT'S A QUENCH BUGGY, UH, QUENCHING. 
          THE THIRST I'VE SEEN 'EM, UH, USED INTERNATIONALLY AT FESTIVALS, UM, AND EVENTS. 
          I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RUNS, IF YOU WILL, FIVE KS, ET CETERA. 
          UM, WHERE FOLKS INSTEAD OF USING PLASTIC, UM, THEY BRING ALONG SOME SORT OF WATER CONTAINER AND REFILL IT, WHICH WOULD REALLY HELP OUR SEA TURTLE PATROL FOLKS FROM PICKING UP ALL THOSE PLASTIC BOTTLES. 
          SO IF, IF IT QUALIFIES FOR TURK, I'M, I'M ALL IN FAVOR, AND I SEE IT'S IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE THAT 40,000. 
          SO I, I THINK, UM, IF IT QUALIFIES, IT WOULD BE MONEY WELL SPENT IN PLACE OF A LOT OF PLASTIC BOTTLES ON OUR ISLAND. 
          UM, AND IT CERTAINLY ALL THOSE RUNS BRING IN A LOT OF FOLKS FROM OTHER PLACES TO RUN ACROSS OUR, OUR BEAUTIFUL ISLAND, UM, IN LONG COVE, THE DARIUS RUCKER TOURNAMENT'S. 
          GREAT. 
          THE, THE WOMEN'S TEAMS ARE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, EVEN AS FAR AS OREGON AND CALIFORNIA. 
          UM, SO WE CERTAINLY, AND AND I, I'VE BEEN TO THOSE TOURNAMENTS. 
          UM, IT, IT'S GREAT. 
          UM, YOU SEE FAMILIES FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE WHO COME IN AND, AND STAY AT OUR HOTELS OR, OR, UM, OTHER, UH, ACCOMMODATIONS HERE AND SPEND MONEY ON THE ISLAND. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CERTAINLY A, A GREAT COMMUNITY EVENT. 
          AND AS YOU MENTIONED, WHAT THE TELEVISION BROADCAST THAT WE GOT, YOU CAN'T PAY FOR THAT. 
          IT'S REALLY GREAT. 
          UM, SO, SO THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION ABOUT THOSE. 
          UM, AND ALSO THE INFORMATION ABOUT LOW COUNTRY GOLF. 
          I DO REMEMBER IN 2023 WHEN THE CHAMBER CAME AND ASKED HER AT SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST IT ASKED FOR MORE MONEY FOR LOW COUNTRY GOLF. 
          WELL, WE TURNED THAT DOWN. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT MS. HUNTER RAISED THAT ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS A QUESTION MARK IN, IN MY MIND, IF WE TURNED IT DOWN BEFORE THEN, THEN APPROVING IT, BUT, BUT YOU ALL CONSIDERED IT AND, AND RECOMMENDED IN FAVOR OF IT. 
          UM, WE DID. 
          AND THAT WAS IN CONSIDERATION OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT GOLF PLAYS ON THE ISLAND, WE LOOK AT THAT, IT'S KIND OF SOUND THE SAME THING AS, UM, THE LONG COVE TOURNAMENT, THE EXPOSURE AND WHAT PEOPLE ARE COMING. 
          THEY, THEY'RE PLAYING A LOT OF GOLF ON THIS ISLAND. 
          RIGHT. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF COURSE, A LOT OF COURSES HERE AND, UM, IT GENERATES A LOT OF REVENUE, A LOT OF HOTEL STAYS AND ALSO ON COURSE DOLLARS. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          NO, WITHSTANDING THE, THE TENT MY HUSBAND AND I MAKE TO PLAY GOLF AND, AND LOOKING AT ALL THE GOLF BALLS LAND IN OUR BACKYARD, SO WE DON'T SPEND AS MUCH AS WE USED TO ON, ON NEW GOLF BALLS. 
          BUT ANYWAY, UM, SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. ARNOLD. 
          HE'S BEEN STANDING HERE FOR A WHILE, BUT I DO HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF ABOUT THE STAFF REPORT WE WERE PROVIDED. 
          UM, AND THAT IS THAT, UM, THE INFORMATION, UH, FROM THE, UM, OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS THAT WE'RE SHORT ABOUT $72,000 SHORT. 
          UM, AND THEN IF YOU ADD IN FULL FUNDING FOR THE ONES THAT MR. BROWN LIST IT, IT'S A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          UM, AND SO MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE REALLY SHORT, ARE THERE FUNDS AVAILABLE IF WE DECIDE TO GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE PLUS FULLY FUND THOSE THAT WERE PARTIALLY FUNDED EXCEPT FOR THOSE THAT ARE SUBJECT TO TURK REQUIREMENTS? SO 
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DO WE HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE TO DO THAT? YES. 
          AND THE INFORMATION I SHARED WITH YOU LAST NIGHT SHOWS THAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE, RIGHT? IT'S A MATTER OF HOW TOWN COUNCIL'S WILLING, UM, TO DIRECT ME TO HELP DISTRIBUTE THEM. 
          SO WHETHER IT'S THROUGH CIP OPERATING, UM, SO ON SO FORTH, THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO FULLY FUND THE ASK. 
          AND I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOTWITHSTANDING THE STAFF REPORT THAT SAID THERE WAS A 72,000 PLUS SHORTFALL STAFF'S REPORT, SAID THERE WAS 72,000, I THINK IT'S 3 41 SHORTFALL. 
          UM, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THERE IS NO SHORTFALL IN FUNDS AVAILABLE. 
          THAT'S, THAT, IS THAT THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THAT, THAT THAT'S CORRECT. 
          FUNDS BEEN UTILIZED FROM, FROM OTHER LOCATIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S UNDER THE SUMMARY AND THE SECOND PARAGRAPH SHORTFALL OF $72,341. 
          THERE IT IS. 
          BUT CAN I ASK FOR A DISTINCTION ON THAT? WHEN THOSE DOLLARS, WHILE THEY MAY BE AVAILABLE, UM, HAVE THEY ALREADY BEEN REL PRELIMINARILY, UM, ASSIGNED TO OTHER CIP, ET CETERA, THOSE OTHER AREAS? SO IS IT TAKING, IS IT TAKING FROM ONE POT TO PUT INTO ANOTHER POT? I MEAN, I'M JUST, DOES IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IN YOUR OVERALL PLANS FOR YOUR BUDGET, ET CETERA, IN THE FUTURE? TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION, I HAVE NOT YET, NOR HAVE I MADE IT A, A STANDARD PRACTICE OF MINE TO START PLANNING FOR THE USE OF A TAX BEFORE YOU ALL VOTE ON SCA TAX GRANT DISTRIBUTION. 
          SO FULL DISCLOSURE, I I NEVER COUNT WHAT I DON'T HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          UM, BUT YOU CAN ONLY SPEND $20 SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          THAT'S MY POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF A, AN ASK I ALREADY KNOW, RIGHT. 
          SO I KNOW HOW THE, THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE WORK. 
          AS I'M PREPARING THE BUDGET FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, I WILL SIMPLY NOT HAVE AN EXTRA A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR 200,000, WHATEVER THE DOLLAR AMOUNT REALLY IS BECAUSE WE'RE STILL PROJECTING Q4 BE MORE, WE COULD BE DOWN 12% AT THE END OF Q4. 
          WE COULD BE UP 2% AT THE END OF Q4. 
          BUT REGARDLESS, WE, WE WILL MAKE IT WORK. 
          THERE'S TIME. 
          UM, AND I WILL, IF NEEDED, JUST SIMPLY PRESENT TO YOU A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT HAS LESS AT TAX USE THAN LAST TIME. 
          UH, I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE TOWN COUNCIL, THE, THE DOLLARS ARE THERE. 
          IF THEY WEREN'T THERE, I WOULD BE SITTING HERE SAYING, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. 
          I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF TAKING A LOOK AT EACH APPLICATION, UNDERSTANDING THE VALIDITY OF IF, IF IT'S, IF, IF, IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING AN AT TAX IN INVESTMENT IN THE GRANT AND, AND LOOKING AT IT THAT WAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. ALFORD, I WANNA THANK MR. UH, ARNOLD AND THE, A TAX COMMITTEE FOR THEIR VERY GOOD JOB ON THIS. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A NUMBER OF, UH, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT RELY VERY HEAVILY ON THESE AT TAX FUNDS AND THEIR BUDGETS BEING VERY TIGHT AND VERY CONSTRICTED. 
          SO TO BE ABLE TO SAY THE REQUESTS ARE FULLY FUNDED FOR MOST OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ON HERE IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT I'M VERY PLEASED WITH. 
          UM, I DO SHARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED HERE BEFORE. 
          UM, LOW COUNTRY GOLF ASSOCIATION, MY RECOLLECTION BACK TWO YEARS IS SIMILAR, UH, TO MR. BRYSON'S, UH, IS THAT THE COUNCIL AT THAT POINT THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME OVERLAP BETWEEN RESPONSIBILITY AND FUNCTIONS OF THE CHAMBER AND OF THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF ASSOCIATION, UH, AND THAT THE CHAMBER SHOULD BE DOING THESE THINGS. 
          UH, WE DECIDED THAT TO CUT BACK ON SOME OF THE FUNDS AT THAT POINT. 
          UM, THIS SEEMS TO BE A, AN ATTEMPT TO GO AROUND THAT AND COME BACK TO A POINT THAT WE PREVIOUSLY DID NOT APPROVE OF. 
          SO I'D BE VERY SYMPATHETIC TO REDUCING THE ALLOCATION TO THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSE ASSOCIATION. 
          UH, I WOULD ALSO BE VERY FAVORABLY, UM, DIRECTED TO TAKING THESE SIX ORGANIZATIONS THAT, THAT WERE SHORT FROM THEIR GOAL AND GIVING THEM THEIR FULL FUNDING REQUESTS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? I GOT, YEAH, I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          UM, JUST IN GENERAL, LEMME ASK YOU, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE ALL THE APPLICATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DO YOU THINK, OR DO YOU FEEL AS THOUGH, UM, THE, A TAX COMMITTEE HAS TO GIVE OUT 100% OF THE FUNDS AVAILABLE? NO, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 
          I BELIEVE ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          EVEN THE REQUESTS THAT WE PRESENTED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS OR SO HAVEN'T EVEN REACHED WHAT WAS AVAILABLE. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF CO COINCIDENTAL THAT THE, IT IS THIS TIME WE HAVE BEEN CAUTIONING THOSE APPLICANTS THAT WE KNOW THAT THIS BELL IS GONNA MAKE THE CURVE. 
          WE KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO NORMALCY. 
          THESE FUNDS AREN'T GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY 
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HAVE BEEN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE'VE EMBRACING THEM TO KNOW THAT YOU MAY PUT IN A REQUEST FOR X AMOUNT, YOU MAY SEE A 25, 30 5% DROP OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY AWARDED. 
          WE'LL GO TO BAT FOR YOU TWO TOWN COUNCIL AND PLEAD FOR YOU THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE WORTHY CAUSES, BUT TOUGH DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE BASED OFF FINANCIAL DECISIONS. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT YOU, OKAY, BUT YOU BASICALLY 98% FUNDED, FULLY FUNDED EVERYONE. 
          CORRECT. 
          UH, WITHOUT FEELING AS THOUGH YOU COULD JUST TURN IT BACK TO THE TOWN BECAUSE THEY MAYBE DIDN'T DESERVE 100% IN FUNDING OR NOT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF DESERVE IS THE, THE, THE WORD I WOULD USE OR, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, THE, THE TAKE IS NOT AS BIG AS THE GIVE OR THE, IN SOME SITUATIONS, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THE VALUE, THE MONEY THAT'S BEING AWARDED, THE RETURN ON THAT ISN'T ALWAYS NECESSARILY AS HIGH AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, RIGHT. 
          WHERE THIS IS A SEED FUND, AND YOU SHOULD BE, WE'RE EXPECTING THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO START STEPPING OFF AS THEY GET THEIR MOMENTUM WHERE THEY DON'T NEED THE FUNDING FROM THE ACCOMMODATION TAX. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THEY EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, CHART THEIR OWN COURSE. 
          WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, I I, I'VE SEEN, I SAW THIS 30 YEARS AGO, AND IT'S QUITE DIFFERENT. 
          WE WERE NEVER REALLY FULLY FUNDED 30, 25 YEARS AGO. 
          AND SO THERE WERE 50, 50%, OR, YOU KNOW, 75%. 
          AND, AND WHAT IT SAYS TO ME, YOU KNOW, IS, IS IT'S HEALTH. 
          WE'RE HEALTHY ENOUGH TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. 
          AND THAT'S GREAT. 
          UM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T UNDERST I JUST, I DON'T FEEL AS THOUGH WE SHOULD HAVE TO 100% FUND JUST BECAUSE THE MONEY'S AVAILABLE FOR NUMBER ONE. 
          UH, AND NUMBER TWO, AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AMONGST OURSELVES BECAUSE THERE'S THEIR NAMES ON HERE THAT WERE HERE 30 YEARS AGO, AND SO THEY'VE BEEN FUNDED EVERY YEAR FOR 25 OR 30 YEARS. 
          AND AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO START TO WEAN THESE PEOPLE OFF AND, AND GET 'EM OUT OF THE DRIVE THROUGH WINDOW. 
          AND, UH, AND I JUST THINK THAT DISCUSSION NEEDS TO BE HAD AT SOME POINT BECAUSE THESE AREN'T, ALL OF, THESE AREN'T STARTUP OR EVEN, UM, YOUNG COMPANIES, UM, OR ASSOCIATIONS. 
          BUT THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I I, WHAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM THIS IS A COUPLE THINGS. 
          UM, ONE TO THE NONPROFITS THAT ARE ASKING FOR MONEY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, IT'S A NEW DAY, RIGHT? UM, THAT WHICH WE HAD TWO YEARS AGO MAY NOT BE HERE NEXT YEAR, THE YEAR AFTER, THE YEAR AFTER THAT, UM, THE MONEY IS, IS NOT ONLY IS THE MONEY STARTING TO DWINDLE, BUT THE ASKS ARE STILL COMING IN FROM ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS. 
          SO FROM A, A BEST PRACTICES STANDPOINT, UM, I, I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT IN PLACE BY THE SUMMER SO THAT WE CAN REALLY ADDRESS HOW TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, NOT ONLY WITH, UH, A NEW ORGANIZATION ASKING FOR FUNDS, UM, BUT ALSO EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS ASKING FOR FUNDS. 
          AND WHAT'S THE INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR? WHAT'S THE CAP THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN PLACE? HOW DO WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE FUNDING REQUESTS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THEY'RE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HAVE? UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN I LOOK AT ONE GOING FROM BASICALLY DOUBLING, I, I QUESTION THAT I DO. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO REMEMBER THAT, UM, WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL ASK THAT THE CHAMBER HAD, WE PRETTY MUCH SAID NO TO THAT BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS A DUPLICATION OF SERVICES AND THAT SOMEHOW ANOTHER, THE CHAMBER WAS ACTUALLY GETTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN GETTING. 
          UM, THEY HAVE NOT ASKED FOR SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDS. 
          WE HAVE, WE TOLD THEM TO GO BACK, TELL THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, DO NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA ASK FOR SUPPLEMENTAL IF YOU WANT IT, YOU'VE GOTTA GO ASK THE TOWN FOR IT. 
          UM, SO, AND, AND I I, I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF PUT MY FAITH INTO THE AT TAX COMMITTEE AS TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND HOW THEY HAVE VETTED IT. 
          YOU ARE A GROUP THAT WE HAVE APPOINTED AND, AND YOU'RE WORKING FOR US. 
          UM, SO I GO BASICALLY OFF OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          I DO SAY THAT GOING FORWARD, UM, THE ORGANIZATIONS NEED, WE NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT THERE. 
          THERE'S GOTTA BE A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS. 
          UM, SO THAT AS REVENUES DROP, THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT. 
          WHAT THAT SOLUTION IS. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT IN PLACE BEFORE WE REALLY START TO, UH, HINDER SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          SO WITH, WITH THAT SAID, KIM, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION, MR. MAYOR, BEFORE WE GET INTO A MOTION NOW? YEP. 
          I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YEP. 
          UM, IT WAS, UH, MENTIONED BY, UH, A FEW OF OUR COLLEAGUES HERE, THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF OWNERS ASSOCIATION AMOUNT, UM, WHICH I THINK IS 200 K. 
          UM, LAST YEAR TOWN COUNCIL AWARDED A HUNDRED K AND AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, THAT WAS 
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ALONGSIDE OF US CUTTING THE D O'S FUNDING. 
          UM, SO, UM, I GUESS I'M ASKING THOSE THAT HAVE PROPOSED THAT IF, IF THERE'S A NUMBER IN MIND. 
          WELL, WE DIDN'T CUT THE D O'S FUNDING. 
          WE JUST DIDN'T GIVE THEM THE SUPPLEMENTAL THAT THEY ASKED FOR. 
          YEAH, WE, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          CUT IT. 
          SO IS THERE A NUMBER, WELL, EXPLAIN TO ME HOW YOU MEAN THAT WE CUT IT JUST SO WE YEAR, YEAR, YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE OF THE SUPPLEMENTALS THAT WERE COMING BACK, WE STOPPED GIVING THE SUPPLEMENTAL CORRECT. 
          WHICH, WHICH WAS OUT OF NORMAL PROCEDURE. 
          SO THE SUPPLEMENTALS, I THINK WERE NOT ONLY DID, IT WASN'T JUST THIS ONE ORGANIZATION, WE DIDN'T ENTERTAIN ANY OF THE SUPPLEMENTALS THAT WERE COMING THROUGH. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT WE WERE DOING OUR FUNDING IN THE, IN THE TRADITIONAL, REGULAR PROCEDURES. 
          SO I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY CUT THE DMO FUNDING PER SE, BECAUSE IT IS DICTATED THROUGH LAW WHAT WE HAVE TO GIVE TO THEM IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGE. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR. 
          WELL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL THROW A NUMBER OUT THERE. 
          SO, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE CHART, UM, THEY HAD 50,020, 22 50,000, 2023, A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND 2024. 
          SO THAT WAS A SUBSTANTIAL BOOST THEN. 
          AND NOW THEY'RE ASKING, UM, AND THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED 200,000. 
          SO WHAT IF WE REDUCE THAT BY 50,000 TO 150,000 AND USE THAT 50,000 TO FULLY FUND THOSE THAT ARE PARTIALLY FUNDED, UM, OTHER THAN THOSE THAT DON'T QUALIFY FOR TUR. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT. 
          AND IF YOU MADE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT, I WOULD SECOND IT. 
          DOES THAT SATISFY THE CONCERNS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS ORGANIZATION IS ALREADY, THAT WE HAD QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE FUNDING OF THIS ORGANIZATION THROUGH THE DMO AND ET CETERA? THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD ABOUT IT? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I GET THAT, BUT IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY SATISFY THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE OVERALL. 
          WELL, I, I LISTENED TO THE COMMITTEE CHAIR BASED UPON THE COMMITTEE'S DISCUSSION, AND, AND THEY'RE RECOMMENDING ACTUALLY DOUBLING IT. 
          SO THIS WOULD NOT DOUBLE IT. 
          SO IT CUT BACK ON THAT KIND OF, KIND OF SPLITTING THE VIEW, IF YOU WOULD, UM, IN, IN SENDING A MESSAGE. 
          UM, BECAUSE I, I, I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THERE'S NOT DUPLICATION IN THE MARKETING BY THE DMO AND THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF ASSOCIATION. 
          UM, AND SO I, I OFFERED IT AS A COMPROMISE. 
          SO NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS DONE GOOD WORK AND WE RESPECT THE WORK THAT THEY DID, I THINK THE FINAL, THOSE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND THE FINAL DECISION IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS ORGANIZATION, AS YOU JUST DESCRIBED, MAY OR MAY NOT BE A DUPLICATION, IS A CONVERSATION WE OUGHT TO HAVE BEFORE WE FUND THEM. 
          AND JUST TO ECHO YOUR CONCERNS THERE, WHEN WE DID A SECOND PASS, I BELIEVE WE DID CUT THEM DOWN TO 150. 
          SO WE WENT BACK, UH, WE TOOK A SECONDARY VOTE AS WELL, WHICH IS WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE, BUT IN CASE WE, 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER WAS, IF WE HAD TO HELP GET THAT NUMBER CLOSER TO WHERE IT MAY BE. 
          UH, THE NUMBER WE OFFERED UP TODAY, UH, WAS 4,186,065. 
          WE DID DO A SECOND PASS AND GOT THAT NUMBER DOWN TO 4,044,765. 
          AND A LOT OF THOSE SITUATIONS, WE KIND OF MET THE MIDDLE IN BETWEEN LAST YEAR'S, UH, APPROVED AMOUNT FROM TOWN COUNCIL. 
          AND THIS YEAR'S APPLICATION, I THINK LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSE OWNERS ASSOCIATION, WE FELL IN AT THAT 150 HUNDRED 50. 
          IS IT STILL ON OUR, IT'S STILL IN OUR SPREADSHEET, SO YEAH. 
          ON THAT ONE, DEB. 
          SURE. 
          NO, NO, NO SPREADSHEET SPREADSHEET'S. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT IS JUST THAT THEY HAD DONE A, A, ANOTHER VOTE, WORKED IT DOWN, BUT THEY, THIS IS WHAT THEY, AND THEY WENT THROUGH THREE PASSES AND THEN A, A FALLBACK, IF YOU WILL, WHICH MR. ARNOLD IS EXPLAINING IS HALFWAY BETWEEN WHAT THEY HAD LAST YEAR AND, AND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT FOR THIS YEAR. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT WAS DURING THEIR DELIBERATIONS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NO. 
          ANY, ANY MOTIONS ON THE TABLE? WELL, I WOULD ASK THAT WE SEPARATE, UM, UH, IF YOU'RE SUGGESTING A MOTION TO, UM, APPROVE THIS AS A PACKAGE, YES. 
          UM, I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION BECAUSE THERE ARE SPECIFIC ONES THAT I WANT TO HAVE A DIFF I WANNA BE ABLE TO VOTE NO ON OR CHANGE THE AMOUNT. 
          AND I DON'T WANNA SEE MYSELF BEING FORCED INTO SITUATION WHERE I HAVE TO VOTE NO ON EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE DEFAULT FOR ME BECAUSE MY, PHILOSOPHICALLY, AS I READ, UM, FROM THE ATEX, UM, CONSISTENT PHILOSOPHIES OF THEIR OWN, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SPECIFIC, UM, SPECIFIC POINTS THAT I WENT THROUGH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT WENT THROUGH MR. FRIES. 
          DO YOU WANNA MAKE THE MOTION? I, YEAH, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST IS I CAN MAKE A MOTION AND IF, UH, UM, IF MS. BECKER WANTS TO AMEND THE MOTION, THEN SHE COULD DO IT OUT AT THAT POINT. 
          BUT, UM, I, I WOULD MOVE, PARDON ME IF I CAN SPEAK . 
          I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE 
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THE FULL FUNDING RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE AS SHOWN ON, UM, APOLOGIZE. 
          THE FULL FUNDING IS RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,815,800. 
          UM, AND TO, UH, INCLUDE FULL FUNDING FOR THOSE FOR WHICH THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED PARTIAL FUNDING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UH, HILTON ED, ISLAND BRIDGE ASSOCIATION, HILTON ED, MLK, COMMITTEE FOR JUSTICE AND LONG COVE CLUB, WHICH ARE TURK BASE REDUCTION. 
          AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TOTAL IS. 
          UM, DO YOU WANT WITH, WITH THE REDUCTION IN THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF FROM 200,000 TO 150,000? I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          I APOLOGIZE TO THE CLERK FOR MAKING IT SO COMPLICATED. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M JUST MAKING SURE I'VE GOT KIM, YOU DO YOU HAVE THIS DOWN? OKAY. 
          UM, DISCUSSION. 
          WELL, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT? HANG ON, HANG ON. 
          . 
          SO ANY DISCUSSION FROM, FROM COUNSEL ON THAT MOTION? MS. BECKER, IS THIS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR ME TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT OR, OR OFFER THAT AMENDMENT? NOT, THERE'S A SECOND. 
          YEAH. 
          MR. ALFRED SECOND, MR. YOU GUYS DON'T, DO NOT AMEND THE MOTION. 
          THAT WAS THE MISTAKE. 
          YOU, UM, I, I DID HAVE A, A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS A, UH, A RECOMMENDATION OF HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK AT LATER ON, UM, TO UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. 
          SO YOU, YOU CAN MAKE YOUR, OKAY. 
          WELL, I, I WAS ADDRESSING MR. DEON'S COMMENT OKAY. 
          OF, TO, TO PASS MOTION. 
          THERE WAS CROSS CONVERSATION. 
          NOT REALLY COME BACK. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR UP OR THOSE FOLKS, BUT MR. COMMENT. 
          PARDON? I DIDN'T HEAR MR. DEE'S COMMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          PASS IF SHE WANTS TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO IT. 
          GET A SECOND. 
          MR. COLTRANE. 
          I, I, I WANT TO A, UH, CLARIFICATION IF I COULD, UM, IF WE WERE TO, TO PASS THE FIRST MOTION, CAN THERE BE AN AMENDMENT MADE AFTERWARDS? WHAT IS THE BEST PROCEDURE ON THAT? TO AMEND THE MOTION OR AMEND, AMEND THE VOTE? THE PROCEDURE WOULD BE TO AMEND THE MOTION IF SOMEONE WISHES TO HAVE IT CHANGED FROM WHAT WAS DONE BY MS. BRYSON. 
          ONCE YOU'VE ADOPTED THE MOTION, IF IT'S PASSED, THEN SOMEONE WHO VOTED FOR IT WOULD HAVE TO MOVE TO RECONSIDER IT IF YOU WANTED TO GO BACK AND CHANGE IT. 
          AND SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT, TO, UM, COUNCILWOMAN BRYSON'S MOTION. 
          AND MY AMENDMENT IS THAT WE FULLY FUND THE ST. 
          PATRICK'S DAY, UM, TO THEIR ASK. 
          AND, UH, WHICH I GUESS IS ACTUALLY PART OF YOUR MOTION, BUT THAT WE DO NOT FUND THE $200,000 ASK FROM THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSES OWNERS. 
          WE DO NOT FUND THE QUENCH BUGGY. 
          UM, WE DO NOT FUND FOR THE FULL ASK. 
          I'M WILLING TO COMPROMISE SOMEWHERE ON THERE. 
          BUT FOR THE FULL ASK OF THE OUTDO DOOR FOUND, UH, OUTSIDE FOUNDATION, THEY'RE ASKING FOR 32,000. 
          I'D REDUCE IT BY 10. 
          AND, UM, THAT WE DO NOT FUND LOW COUNTRY GULLAH. 
          AND BASED ON ALL THE REASONS THAT I GAVE DURING MY EARLIER COMMENTS, AND I GUESS I NEED A SECOND FOR MY AMENDMENT. 
          THAT IS, THAT IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? YEAH, I'LL SECOND. 
          I, ALL RIGHT. 
          MR. DESIMONE, TURN YOUR MIC ON YOUR MIC. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOT A MOTION, WE'VE GOT A, AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. 
          WE'VE GOT A FIRST AND SECOND ON BOTH DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT. 
          CAN WE REPEAT WHAT THE AMENDMENT WAS? YEP. 
          THE AMENDMENT IS, UM, TO, TO FULLY FUND, UM, THAT WHICH WAS STATED ON MRS. BRYSON'S MOTION, BUT NOT TO FUND LCGO, A LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSE OWNERS ASSOCIATION AT 200,000, QUENCH BUGGY AT 40,000 OUT SIGNED FOUNDATION REDUCED BY 10,000 AND LOW COUNTRY, UH, GULLAH REDUCED, UH, TO ZERO, AND THAT WAS A REDUCTION OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          SO THAT IS, UH, 360,000. 
          AND CAN YOU SAY AGAIN WHAT THE REDUCTION IN OUTSIDE FOUNDATION WAS? I SEE 72,000, 
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I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT 10,000 OUTSIDE WAS REDUCTION OF 10,072. 
          YES. 
          THE MOTION STATED 32, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. 
          AND THAT WAS THE CONFUSING THING TO ME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DID I SAY 30? DID I SAY 32? YEAH. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHY I DID THAT, THAT'S WHY I APOLOGIZE. 
          IT WOULD BE A REDUCTION IN 10, 10,000 REDUCTION. 
          YEAH, THAT'S, SO YOU HEARD ME CORRECTLY. 
          YES. 
          SO DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL, THE DI THE DIFFICULTY IS GROUPING THESE FIVE OR SIX ITEMS TOGETHER WHERE FOUR PEOPLE MAY BE IN FAVOR OF THREE OF THEM, BUT NOT OF THE OTHER THREE MM-HMM . 
          SO IT, THIS, IT'S, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE THAT, THAT PRACTICE AMENDMENT TO THIS MOTION IN THIS MANNER IS NOT POSSIBLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT . 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO I, I WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY, MY RESPONSE TO, UH, TO THE AMENDMENT IS I'M, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THE REDUCTION FOR L-C-G-O-A OF 50,000. 
          THE QUE BUGGY. 
          I, I, I'M NOT SOLD ON THAT. 
          UM, OUTSIDE FOUNDATION, I WOULD NOT GIVE ANY REDUCTION. 
          THE SAME THING WITH LOW COUNTRY GULLAH. 
          UM, THAT'S JUST WHERE, WHERE I STAND. 
          BUT, UM, SO I'M PREPARED FOR THE QUESTIONS, MR. MAYOR. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BUT, BUT WELL BEFORE YOU CLOSE DISCUSSION TO, UM, COUNCILMAN DEON'S POINT, UM, WHEN YOU LUMP THEM TOGETHER, THAT WAY IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU MAYOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, TO VOTE IN WHAT YOU JUST STATED WOULD BE YOUR PREFERENCES NOR ANYONE ELSE TO DO THAT. 
          AND SO THAT IS A PROBLEM WITH WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO PROCEED WITH. 
          AND SO I OFFER THAT YOU RESEND YOUR MOTION AND YOU MAKE A MOTION IN EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THEM THROUGH AS A GROUP. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT I INTENDED TO DO. 
          SO IF I NEEDED TO RESTATE THAT, I COULD. 
          BUT, UM, OTHERWISE THAT WAS MY INTENTION THAT EACH ONE OF THOSE COULD INDEED STAND ALONE. 
          DO YOU WISH TO AMEND YOUR MOTION? I WILL ABSOLUTELY AMEND MY MOTION TO MAKE IT READ IN THAT WAY THAT EACH OF THOSE, UM, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT I MENTIONED BE HELD AS A SINGLE, UM, AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AND NOT GROUPED ALL IN ONE. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? THANK YOU, MR. DESMO. 
          MAYOR, I WOULD ASK OUR TOWN ATTORNEY TO CLARIFY THE PROCESS HERE. 
          THE, THE, THE SECONDER FROM THE ORIGINAL MOTION WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO THAT. 
          THE SECONDER DID JUST AGREE TO THAT. 
          OKAY? YEP. 
          SO, UM, WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT, OR ACTUALLY A MO AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO TAKE UP EACH ITEM INDIVIDUALLY. 
          NOW, CALL THE VOTE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND BY EACH INDIVIDUALLY YOU MEAN THE MAIN ONES THAT COUNCIL THE ONES IN QUESTION. 
          OH, JUST OF THE ONES IN QUESTION. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THAT, THAT I DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT MY, MY, MY BAD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, TO GO BY THOSE INDIVIDUALLY THAT WERE NAMED, AND THAT WOULD BE LOW COUNTRY COMMUNITY, UH, GOLFER, LOW COUNTRY GOLF, UH, QUENCH BUGGY, OUTSIDE HILTON HEAD, AND, UH, UH, LOW COUNTRY GULLAH, THOSE WOULD BE PULLED OUT SEPARATELY. 
          FIRST AND SECOND. 
          THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND OPPOSED AS FOUR TO THREE. 
          SO, MR. COLTRANE, WHAT DO I DO WITH THAT FIRST MOTION? NOW, NOT ON THE TABLE YET. 
          WELL, THE MOTION'S NOW BEEN AMENDED SO THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON ALL OF THEM OTHER THAN THE HANDFUL THAT MS. BECKER MENTIONED. 
          SO YOU CAN VOTE ON OKAY. 
          THOSE, AND THEN TAKE, WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE MS. BECKER ONE AT A TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, NOW WE WILL TAKE THE VOTE ON THE REMAINING. 
          DO I NEED TO DO THE, THE, THE FIRST SIX OR CAN I DO THE REMAINING ONES ALL AT ONE? I I THINK THAT'D BE AT YOUR CHOICE. 
          YOU COULD DO THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE GROUP ABSENT THE SIX AND THEN TAKE THE SIX ONE AT A TIME. 
          SO, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GROUP, ABSENT THOSE THAT ARE STATED INDIVIDUALLY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING, PLEASE. 
          YOU UNDERSTAND MS. BRYSON? NO, I, SO WE ARE REMOVING FROM THE, I THINK IT'S EASIER. 
          PARDON? MAYOR, DID YOU FINISH YOUR SENTENCE? NO, I, I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE REMOVING L-C-G-O-A QUENCH BUGGY OUTSIDE LOW COUNTRY GO. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER TO VOTE ON THOSE INDIVIDUAL ONES FIRST AND THEN SEE WHAT'S LEFT 
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AS THE WHOLE, AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER WAY AROUND. 
          I THINK VOTING ON THOSE INDIVIDUAL ONES FIRST, WHICH WAS THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, IS MORE APPROPRIATE, OKAY. 
          THAN VOTING ON THAT'S FINE. 
          THEM AS A WHOLE. 
          SO LET COUNTRY GOLF COURSE OWNERS ASSOCIATION, DO WE HAVE A MOTION I'D LIKE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH INDIVIDUALLY AND MAKE A MOTION ON EACH ONE, CORRECT? YES, YES, YES. 
          UM, SO, OKAY, SO THE MOTION THAT I'M GOING TO MAKE IS THAT, UM, FOR THE YEAR 2025, THAT THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF ASSOCIATION RECEIVE, UM, NO FUNDING IN, OR AT LEAST TEMPORARILY HOLD THAT FUND FUNDING FOR FURTHER CONVERSATION WITH REGARD TO THE APPROPRIATENESS OF IT. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? NO FUNDING WHATSOEVER. 
          NO FUNDING. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION, MR. DESMO? ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PROVIDING ZERO FUNDING TO L-C-G-O-A PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND OPPOSED? WAIT, WHAT WAS THAT? ONE TO SIX? 6 1 0 1. 
          ONE TO 6 1 6. 
          YEAH, FOR L-C-G-O-A. 
          IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSE OWNERS ASSOCIATION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR FUNDING FOR LOW COUNTRY GOLF ASSOCIATION OF $100,000. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. 
          DISCUSSION. 
          SEEING NO DISCUSSION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE SIGNIFY . 
          SO WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE VOTE? I, I CAN'T SEE. 
          SO DID YOU VOTE? UM, I DID NOT VOTE. 
          AND, AND I'M TRYING. 
          I DID NOT VOTE. 
          YOU WENT REALLY FAST AND I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT WAS PART, I'M CURIOUS, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THAT VOTE WENT AS IT WAS COMING DOWN, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THERE WAS CONSENSUS THAT SPLITTING IT AND GIVING SOME MONEY MIGHT BE AN OPTION, BUT, UM, IT, IT'S GONNA FAIL EITHER WAY, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER AT THIS POINT. 
          SO, SO HOW, HOW DO YOU VOTE MS. BECKER? I WILL VOTE WITH MY COLLEAGUE DOWN AT THE OTHER END OF THE DIOCESE OUTTA TWO TO SIX. 
          IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? TWO FIVE. 
          TWO FIVE. 
          I'M SORRY, TWO FIVE. 
          IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSE? I MOVE TO APPROVE 150,000 SECOND MOTION. 
          I FEEL LIKE I'M BIDDING IN AN AUCTION. 
          EXACTLY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'VE GOT ANY, ANY DISCUSSION ON, ON THIS MOTION FOR 150,000? SEEING NO DISCUSSION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF $150,000 FOR LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSE ASSOCIATION, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED, THAT IS A FIVE TO TWO VOTE. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, NEXT IS THE QUENCH BUGGY. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT AT THIS TIME, WHILE IT'S A WORTHY THOUGHT AND UM, THAT AT THIS TIME THERE'S NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE, ENOUGH DATA TO, UM, TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE 2025 YEAR. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. 
          DISCUSSION. 
          DISCUSSION PLEASE. 
          I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING AND WORTHY IDEA AND MY ONLY QUESTION IS ABOUT USING IT AS PART OF AT TAX. 
          AND I'M WONDERING IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EXPLORE AS A TOWN IS A AS A BENEFIT. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ZERO FUNDING FOR QUENCH BUGGY, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED, THAT IS THREE FOUR. 
          THREE FOUR. 
          IS THERE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR QUENCH BUGGY? THAT WAS ZERO I'D TO APPROVE 40,000, WHICH IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          THAT IS A FOUR TO THREE VOTE. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, OUTSIDE FOUNDATION. 
          SO I WAS, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REDUCE THE $72,000 ASK TO $62,000 FOR THE OUTSIDE FOUNDATION. 
          THERE A SECOND. 
          SECOND DISCUSSION. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF REDUCING OUTSIDE FOUNDATION BY $10,000, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED, THAT IS A TWO TO FIVE VOTE. 
          IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION ON 
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THE TABLE FOR OUTSIDE FOUNDATION? I MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, 72,000 AS RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND DISCUSSION. 
          WHO SECONDED MR. BROWN DISCUSSION? SEEN ON ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FULL FUNDING, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED, THAT IS FIVE TO TWO. 
          AND LASTLY, LOW COUNTRY GULLAH. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT BASED ON, UM, THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION BEING ENTIRELY IN, ALMOST ENTIRELY, UM, INTERNET BASED, THEREFORE LEAVING A QUESTION IN MY MIND, UM, TO THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AS, UM, UM, REQUIRED BY TURP THAT WE DO NOT FUND THAT ORGANIZATION FOR THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT THEY'RE ASKING. 
          IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION? YEAH. 
          UM, FOR ME, IT MAY NOT SOUND RIGHT, BUT FOR ME, NOT KNOWING ENOUGH ABOUT THE INTRICACIES OF WHAT'S THIS ORGANIZATION IS DOING, MOST WOULD SAY WE SHOULD DO NOTHING. 
          BUT I I SAY THAT I DON'T WANT TO PROHIBIT THEM FROM FUNCTIONING WITHOUT HAVING FULL KNOWLEDGE OF, OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          BECAUSE IT WENT THROUGH, IT WENT THROUGH COMMITTEE AND IF IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH COMMITTEE, IT'D BE A DIFFERENT STORY HERE. 
          SO WE HAVE TO TRUST IN OUR COMMITTEE. 
          RIGHT? SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I FORGET THE MOTION, BUT IT'S, UH, FOR ZERO FUNDING, SO I'LL BE OPPOSING THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OTHER DISCUSSION IF I MIGHT? UH, THEY DO HAVE A, AN INTERNET PRESENCE, BUT THEY ALSO ARE PRESENT AT, UH, A LOT OF OUR LOCAL FESTIVALS WITH THE BOOTH AND INFORMATION. 
          UM, ALSO THEIR PODCAST. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, THIS ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED INTERNATIONALLY AND NATIONALLY WITH AWARDS, AND THAT GIVES A LOT OF CREDIBILITY TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO THE GULLAH COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THAT IT'S ENTIRELY WRONG TO PRO PROVIDE NO FUNDING, AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THE FULL FUNDING AS RECOMMENDED AND VETTED BY THE COMMITTEE. 
          I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT THAT I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PROCESS IMPROVEMENT AND THEIR MEASUREMENT OF, OF VISITORS AND THAT I WOULD LOOK FORWARD, UH, TO THAT IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR. 
          AND, AND I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          AND I ALSO PICK UP ON A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE BY THE CHAIR, UM, THAT THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT MAY BE SOME DUPLICATION OF THE, THE, THE, UM, EFFORTS OF THE DMO AS A WHOLE. 
          AND I TAKE THAT COMMENT, UM, TO HAVE SOME PRETTY HEAVY WEIGHT. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE DISCUSSION AND MORE. 
          UM, IT WAS A GREAT NARRATIVE. 
          DON'T GET ME WRONG. 
          THE, THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THAT ORGANIZATION IS GREAT. 
          IN MY MIND. 
          IT'S WHETHER OR NOT IT ACTUALLY QUALIFIES ON TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS FOR THE TURK DOLLARS. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING LOW COUNTRY GALA TO NO FUNDING, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          ALL THOSE OPPOSED, THAT IS ONE TO FIVE. 
          IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION ON THE TABLE? MAYOR, I MOVE, UH, FULL FUNDING. 
          ONE, ONE TO SIX. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'LL GET MY MATH STRAIGHT EVENTUALLY. 
          MAYOR, I MOVE, UH, TO APPROVE FULL FUNDING OF $100,000 AS RECOMMENDED AND VETTED BY THE COMMITTEE. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? THAT WAS MR. ALFRED DISCUSSION. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FULL FUNDING, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND OPPOSED SIX TO ONE. 
          NOW DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR THE REMAINING BALANCE OF THE ITEMS ON THE ATAC LIST? UM, MAYOR, UM, I, I THINK THAT, UM, THAT GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, THE FULL FUNDING, RIGHT? MY BAD. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE MADE BY, UH, MS. BRYSON, SECONDED BY MR. ALFRED FOR FULL FUNDING OF THOSE ITEMS ON THE REMAINING LIST OF ATACS OUTSIDE OF THE ITEMS WE JUST WENT OVER. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OH, DISCUSSION. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          THAT'S WHY. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES THAT MEAN, DOES THAT INCLUDE THEN, UM, AS IT WAS SUGGESTED, DOES THE  MAKE ASK THE MAKER, DOES THAT INCLUDE THEN THE FULL FUNDING REQUEST, UM, OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE NOT LIMITED BASED ON TURK QUALIFICATIONS? YEAH, THE 
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ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH WE'RE BACK TO IS, UH, FULL FUNDING FOR THOSE RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE FOR FULL FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,815,800 EXCEPT FOR REDUCING LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSE OWNERS ASSOCIATION FROM 200,000 TO 150,000. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF IT IS FULL FUNDING FOR THOSE THAT WERE PARTIALLY FUNDED EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO, UM, DO NOT QUALIFY BASED ON TURK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AGAIN, I'LL CALL THE VOTE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          SEVEN ZERO. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          THAT WAS RATHER INTERESTING. 
           SAY THE LEAST. 
          GOODNESS GRACIOUS. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR ARNOLD, AND TO THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK. 
          THIS IS A TEDIOUS COMMITTEE THAT YOU SIT ON AND Y'ALL ARE DOING A FABULOUS JOB. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT? GOING FORWARD, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BETTER PROTOCOL IN PLACE, UM, TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT, THAT THERE AREN'T AS MANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE OUR TRUST IN Y'ALL. 
          YES. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE. 
          WHERE AM I? YEAH, ITEM G. 
          NOW ITEM 
          [8.g. Consideration of a Resolution of the Town of Hilton Head Island Approving a Sponsorship Agreement with the Heritage Classic Foundation to Support the 2025 RBC Heritage Golf Tournament - Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager]
G. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ALONG WITH SEAN COHEN TO PRESENT THE CON, UH, CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION, THE TOWN OF HILTON NET ISLAND, APPROVING A SPONSORSHIP AGREEMENT WITH THE HERITAGE CLASSIC FOUNDATION SUPPORT THE 2025 RBC HERITAGE GOLF TOURNAMENT. 
          MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, TOM MANAGER, MY PLEASURE TO BE UP HERE, UH, AGAIN TONIGHT, UM, TO, UH, GO OVER A SPONSORSHIP AGREEMENT CONSIDERATION FOR THE HERITAGE CLASSIC. 
          UM, WE RECEIVED A LETTER IN DECEMBER FROM, UM, UH, HERITAGE CLASSIC FOUNDATION CHAIRMAN SIMON FRAZIER, I BELIEVE IS IN THE CROWD. 
          UM, AND I'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH STEVE WILMONT, THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR ON THIS. 
          UM, I'LL TRY TO MOVE THROUGH WITH SOME PACE. 
          I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT, UH, ON THE AGENDA AND THE EXACT SESSION AS WELL. 
          SO THE REQUEST FOR FUNDING IS THE SAME LEVEL AS IT WAS LAST YEAR FOR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          KIM, IF YOU COULD PULL UP ATTACHMENT TWO. 
          UM, AND I WANNA JUST GO THROUGH ARTICLE THREE. 
          UM, AND IT OUTLINES WHAT THE TOWN GETS AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT FOR THE $400,000. 
          YEAH, SCROLL DOWN. 
          THERE'S AN AGREEMENT ATTACHED TO THAT, KIM. 
          AND THEN OUR ARTICLE THREE. 
          YEP. 
          RIGHT THERE. 
          OH, BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO IT WAS IN YOUR PACKET, BUT THE TOWN OF SEA RECEIVES AN UPPER TIER LOGO PLACEMENT AND OFFICIAL PAIRINGS GUIDE WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. 
          UH, ONE FULL PAGE, FOUR COLOR ADS IN THE OFFICIAL PAIRINGS GUIDE. 
          UM, A LINK, A LISTING AND LINK ON THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE, RBC HERITAGE.COM, UH, LISTING OF THE TOURNAMENT'S, OFFICIAL VIDEO BOARDS TUESDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY OF THE TOURNAMENT WEEK. 
          UPPER TIER PLACEMENT ON THE YEAR ROUND SPONSOR BOARD RECEIVE A LISTING ON THE OFFICIAL MEDIA GUIDE. 
          UM, WE'LL PROVIDE OFFICIAL WELCOME MESSAGE ON THE BUS, DVDS AND PLACEMENT OF ONE 32ND COMMERCIAL AD WITHIN THE RUNNING TIME ON THE VIDEO BOARDS LOCATED ON THE HERITAGE LAWN. 
          UM, AND A REQUEST LAST YEAR THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT MORALIZED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, UM, IS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A, UM, A TOWN SPACE WHERE THEY CAN ENGAGE WITH, UM, ATTENDEES, UM, OF THE TOURNAMENT TO, TO SHARE INFORMATION AND, AND TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK. 
          UM, AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN, IN, UM, ARTICLE, ARTICLE THREE H, UH, SAME FUNDING LEVEL AS LAST YEAR. 
          UM, AGAIN, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT THIS IS THE AGREEMENT CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE FUNDED IT IN THE PAST. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BEFORE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA GO TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS. 
          UH, KIM, ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK? NO, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? UH, JUST AS I THINK I UNDERSTAND, MAYOR, IT'S THE SAME CONTRACT AS LAST YEAR. 
          THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE YEAR YES. 
          AND THAT WE MEMORIALIZED ITEM, UH, THREE H INTO THE AGREEMENT THIS YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, MR. BROWN? YES. 
          UM, I, I'M NOT LOOKING TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT HERE, UM, BUT I SEE MR. SIMON AND MR. WILMOT IN THE CROWD. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 
          WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU ALL DO. 
          I'M SIMPLY, UH, PLANTING SEEDS AND PROVOKING THOUGHT HERE. 
          UH, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO IMPROVE ON OUR LOGISTICS WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOURNAMENT AND I CAN, UH, REMEMBER THE DAYS OF CARS PARKING ALONG GREENWOOD DRIVE FOR THE TOURNAMENT, AND NOW WE ARE, UH, COMPLETELY OFFSITE WITH, UH, HONEY HORN. 
          UM, 
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I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS A METRIC AS TO HOW OUR HOSPITALITY COMMUNITY HAS BEEN EXPERIENCING, IF ANY, UPTICK OR DOWNTURN BASED ON OUR CURRENT LOGISTICS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IN THE PAST, OBVIOUSLY MOST OF THE ACTIVITY AS FAR AS PEOPLE MOVING TO THEIR CARS WOULD HAPPEN ON THE SOUTH END OF THE ISLAND, AND NOW IT IS THE NORTH END OF THE ISLAND. 
          AND I'M JUST NOT QUITE SURE IF THOSE FOLKS ARE TRAVELING BACK TO THE SOUTH END OF THAT ISLAND AFTER THE SHUTTLE TO HONEY HORN. 
          SO I'M JUST PLANTING THAT SEED. 
          AND THE OTHER IS OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A HUGE ECONOMIC, UM, IMPACT HERE WITH THE TOURNAMENT. 
          UM, BUT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER HOW THAT'S LOCALIZED AS FAR AS YOUR, UH, SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE CONCERNED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO AS YOU APPROACH US IN THE FUTURE, UH, THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM, FROM YOU GUYS AS FAR AS WHERE WE ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. ALFORD, DO I SEE YOUR HAND GO UP BEFORE? YEAH. 
          I WAS CURIOUS AS TO, UH, WHY THE LISTING ON THE VIDEO BOARDS IS LIMITED TO THE TIME BEFORE THE ACTUAL COMPETITION BEGINS AS COMPARED TO THE OFFICIAL PAIRING GUIDES. 
          I CERTAINLY HAVE, UH, THE FOLKS THAT COULD PROBABLY AN ANSWER THAT. 
          UM, I'M SURE THAT THERE'S REQUIREMENTS DURING THE ACTUAL TOURNAMENT PLAY THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE, UH, DAYS LEADING UP IN THE PRACTICE ROUNDS, BUT MAYOR COUNCIL ORLANDO, THANK YOU. 
          UH, YEAH, ACTUALLY THE, UH, THE VIDEO BOARDS ARE TIED INTO THE LIVE BROADCAST. 
          AND THE LIVE BROADCAST IS, UH, TIES INTO, UM, THE, THE LIVE BROADCAST, WHICH IS THE TELEVISION. 
          UH,  SPONSORS THAT BY THE TV TIME. 
          SO, UM, NICE THING IF WE WERE ON THE TELEVISION AS WELL, WOULDN'T IT, ? WELL, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANKS TOO. 
          WE, WE ARE FROM, UH, AS WE MENTIONED TOO IN THE PREVIOUS, UH, REPORT TOO, THERE'S, UH, THE, THE EYES IN THE SKIES THAT ARE UPON, UH, PLACE UPON, UH, SEA PINES, HILTON, HEAD ISLAND AND OURS. 
          PRETTY INCREDIBLE AND ALL TOO. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE ABOUT AND WE JUST DID. 
          THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THE, UH, ECONOMIC IMPACT TOO. 
          WE JUST DID DO A STUDY AFTER THIS PAST YEAR IS $135 MILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THIS COMMUNITY THE WEEK AFTER, UH, THE WEEK OF THE TOURNAMENT AS WELL. 
          AND THAT INFORMATION WAS CERTAINLY PROVIDED. 
          WE APPRECIATE WORKING WITH YOU IN THE TOWN. 
          SO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          SURE. 
          YOU SAID THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF 135 MILLION. 
          DID YOU FIND THAT IT INCREASED GIVEN NOW IT'S A SIGNATURE EVENT FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST? WELL, ACTUALLY IT WAS AN 11% INCREASE, UH, OVER, WE, WE DO AN ECONOMIC IMPACT EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          BUT, UM, AND WE JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE DONE IT, UH, THIS PAST YEAR AND ALL, BUT, UH, IT WAS 11% INCREASE OVER THE PREVIOUS OF, UH, $103 MILLION. 
          BUT THE SIGNATURE EVENT HAS BROUGHT MORE EYES TO THE SKY, WHICH MORE, MORE EXPOSURE, MORE PERIOD, AS WELL AS, UH, ADDITIONAL SPONSORS AND PARTNERS TOO THAT CAME IN BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE ELEVATION THE SIGNATURE EVENT. 
          AND I HAVE A QUESTION, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          UM, MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I RECALL THAT SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION FOR THOSE PARKING OUTSIDE OF SEA PINES, UM, WERE USING THE KAGEY PARK, UM, PARKING, UM, AND BEING BUSED FROM THERE INTO THE TOURNAMENT, THAT IT'S NOT ALL OVER IN HONEY HORN. 
          AND I BELIEVE GIVEN THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH PARKING DOWN IN KAGEY, UM, GENERALLY, THAT THAT MAY HAVE CAUSED SOME DISLOCATION FOR SOME OF THE, UM, BUSINESSES AND BEACH GOERS. 
          AND SO I WONDER IF THERE'S A BETTER SOLUTION THAN USING THAT PARKING LOT IF WE CAN TRULY MOVE MAYBE EVERYTHING TO HONEY HORN OR ANOTHER OPTION SO THAT K CLICKY IS NOT IMPACTED. 
          I DON'T KNOW, UM, IF THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, I I CERTAINLY THINK THAT, UH, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          IT'S SOMETHING WE CERTAINLY, UH, CONTINUE TO LOOK AT EACH AND EVERY YEAR. 
          IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY IDENTIFYING THOSE, UH, LOCAL RESIDENTS AND THAT'S THE SUPPORT OF THE SPONSORSHIP, UH, AGREEMENT AS WELL AS FOR THOSE LOCALLY BEING ABLE TO WALK TO THAT AREA TO BE ABLE TO BE TRANSPORTED DOWN AS WELL. 
          SO, BUT, UH, WE CAN, WORKING WITH HONEY HORN WORKING COAST, WORKING WITH, UH, KIG, UH, WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT OTHER AREAS AS WELL AS WE CONTINUE TO DO. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE QUESTION I GUESS I WOULD ASK OF THAT IS, HOW CERTAIN ARE WE AM THAT IT IS THE LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO ARE USING THE KIG PARKING TO BE TRANSPORTED IN VERSUS SOMEONE WHO'S COMING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE? WELL, WE SEE, AND IF WE HAD THAT CLARIFICATION THAT IT'S FOR OUR RESIDENTS, THEN I'M CERTAINLY GONNA HAVE FAR LESS OF A, UM, AN ISSUE WITH, YOU KNOW, OKAY WITH IT. 
          WE C YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY GET YOU THAT INFORMATION, IDENTIFY THOSE THAT 
          [02:10:01]
ARE, UH, THAT ARE STAYING THAT AREA, VISITING IN THAT AREA, THAT ALSO LIVE IN THAT AREA. 
          I THINK THAT'D BE HELPFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          NO, THANK YOU. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU. 
          YOU KNOW, THANK, UM, 57 YEARS, IS THAT RIGHT? 57 YEARS. 
          THAT'S A LONG TIME TO HAVE A GOLF TOURNAMENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ALMOST DIDN'T. 
          RIGHT? UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS A WHILE. 
          IT IS A DESIGNATED EVENT. 
          IT'S AT A DESIGNATED PLACE AND IT HELPS US MAKE, MAKE US BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SIGNATURE. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK HILTON AND ALLEN WOULD BE WHAT IT IS WITHOUT IT. 
          I THINK IT IS OFFERED SO MUCH TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT, UM, WE'RE FORTUNATE AND OUR NONPROFITS ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE IT. 
          SO. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, WE'VE GOT A MOTION. 
          IS THERE A MOTION ON THE TABLES? MAYOR, I MOVE ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING A SPONSORSHIP AGREEMENT WITH HERITAGE CLASSIC FOUNDATION TO SUPPORT THE 2025 RBC HERITAGE GOLF TOURNAMENT. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          GOT A DUAL SECOND. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORT PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO. 
          LASTLY, 
          [8.h. Consideration of Approval of Rental Locations Proposed by Shore Beach Services for 2025 Beach Season - Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager]
WE HAVE SEAN PRESENTING THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL FOR RENTAL LOCATIONS PROPOSED BY SHORT BEACH SERVICES FOR THE 2025 BEACH SEASON. 
          THIS IS MANDATED BY THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED ON JUNE 18TH OF LAST YEAR. 
          SEAN, UH, THANK YOU SIR. 
          AGAIN, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF AS THIS. 
          AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT TALKS ABOUT 10 UMBRELLAS OF CABANAS AND SIX CHAIRS. 
          UM, BUT PER THE AGREEMENT IT REQUIRES COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE RENTAL LOCATIONS, UM, THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. 
          SO ON THE SCREEN, UM, THE RENTAL LOCATIONS ARE IDENTICAL TO THE AREAS THAT YOU HAD, THAT YOU HAD APPROVED BACK IN JUNE IN, UH, JUNE AND ARTICLE FIVE OF THE NON-EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH SHORE BEACH SERVICES. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE MIKE WANER HERE. 
          UM, UM, HAS TOWN COUNCIL, UH, REVIEWING AND CONSIDERING THE RENTAL LOCATIONS EACH YEAR FOR THE, FOR THE UPCOMING BEACH SEASON. 
          SO THESE, THIS IS WHERE THEY, THEY'RE DESIGNATED FOR THE RENTAL LOCATIONS. 
          AND KIM, CAN YOU PULL UP B THREE? SO IN THE AREA IDENTIFIED AS B THREE ON THOSE RENTAL LOCATIONS, UH, OR, UM, IDENTIFIED AS AREA C ON THIS EXHIBIT B THREE, UM, THERE ARE FOUR UMBRELLA SLASH CANOPIES AND SIX CHAIRS, LA CHAIRS OR LOUNGES THAT HAVE BEEN MOVED FROM THE BARRINGTON AREA IDENTIFIED AS THAT SECOND CALL OUT ON THE, ON THE LEFT ON THE BOTTOM, UM, TO THE HAMPTON AREA. 
          SO FOUR UMBRELLAS SLASH CABANAS AND SIX CHAIRS MOVE FROM ONE AREA TO THE OTHER. 
          AND THEN KIM, UM, EXHIBIT B FIVE, UM, IN THE AREA IDENTIFIED, UM, AS AREA E UM, SIX UMBRELLAS SLASH CABANAS HAVE BEEN MOVED FROM TOWER BEACH TO SEA PINES BEACH CLUB. 
          SO AGAIN, ALL IN IT'S 10 UMBRELLAS. 
          CABANAS, UH, THE AREAS HAVEN'T CHANGED, THE QUANTITIES HAVEN'T CHANGED, IT'S JUST, UH, MOVING A FEW OF THESE FROM ONE, UH, SUB AREA TO ANOTHER AND, UM, AND ASKING FOR TOWN COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THIS AS PROPOSED BY SHORE BEACH SERVICES AT THIS TIME, UM, OUR BEACH, OUR FACILITIES TEAM AND AND BEACH CREW DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. 
          OKAY. 
          KIM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COMMENTS FROM, FROM COUNSEL, MS. BECKER? I HAVE ONE. 
          UM, PART OF OUR DISCUSSIONS, UM, WHEN WE WERE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS WAS A REQUEST, UM, THAT WHEN THOSE CHAIRS AND UMBRELLAS ARE BEING SPREAD OUT, THAT THEY DO NOT BLOCK THE PRIVATE ENTRANCES ONTO THE BEACH. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD THAT PROBLEM IN THE PAST AND SO WE'RE, SO I'M SEE HEADING, HEADS SHAKING AND IN THE AFFIRMATIVE OUT THERE, BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ON THE RECORD THAT PRIVATE BEACH, UM, ENTRANCES AND OTHER ENTRANCES ONTO THE BEACH, WHETHER PRIVATE OR PUBLIC, UM, ARE KEPT FREE OF, UM, CHAIRS AND UMBRELLAS. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO MOVING UMBRELLAS AND CHAIRS. 
          UM, I HAVE A RECOLLECTION THAT LAST YEAR THERE WAS SOME ISSUES INVOLVING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS SHARKS OR TORNADOES OR WHAT, IN THE AREAS THAT ARE BETWEEN THE DESIGNATED GREEN SPOTS HERE. 
          AND I KNOW THAT RO BEACH SERVICES PROVIDES A VEHICLE THAT GOES UP AND DOWN THE BEACH, BUT IF WE'VE GOT A SHARK INCIDENT SOMEPLACE, UM, OR WE'VE GOT UP SERIOUS WINDS COMING UP, I THINK THERE SHOULD 
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BE CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO HOW WE NOTIFY PEOPLE ON THE BEACH, UH, OF THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE NOT IN THE AREA WHERE THE GREEN IS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          AND WE'LL MAKE SURE SEAN LEININGER, ALONG WITH FACILITIES AND OUR BEACH TEAM, WORK CLOSELY WITH SHORE BEACH SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT OCCURS. 
          YES, AND I CAN ADD WE, WE ARE PUTTING A, A PROGRAM IN PLACE FOR A BEACH WARNING SYSTEM. 
          SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN, THAN WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. 
          AND I KNOW EVER SINCE THEN OUR FACILITY TEAM IS WORKING WITH SHORE BEACH TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. 
          SO STAY TUNED. 
          I ANTICIPATE SEAN, WILL IT BE IN PLACE BY SEASON? YES, HE SAID YES. 
          THANK YOU FOR SAYING YES. 
          ALL RIGHT, OTHER DISCUSSIONS FROM, FROM COUNSEL, MR. ALFRED? I'M GLAD YOU DIDN'T SAY SHARKNATO. 
          UM, . 
          SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          OH, MR. BROWN, YOU GOT A QUESTION? I'M NOT SURE WE GOT A MOTION RECORD YET. 
          YEAH, WE MOTION YET. 
          COME ON. 
          I, I MAY WE APPROVE THE RENTAL LOCATIONS PROPOSED BY SHORE BEACH SERVICES FOR 2025 BEACH SEASON IS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF MEMO. 
          SECOND MR. BROWN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'VE GOT A FIRST AND A SECOND TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO. 
          UH, MOVING ON TO THE NON 
          [9. Public Comment - Non Agenda items]
AGENDA ITEM SECTION OF PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION TWO DASH FIVE 70 OF THE TOWN CODE LIMITS EACH PERSON THE ONE THREE MINUTE COMMENT WHEN ADDRESSING COUNSEL, AT THE END OF THE THREE MINUTES, YOU'RE ASKED TO CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS. 
          PLEASE MAINTAIN A DECORUM SUITABLE FOR THE MEETING AND REFRAIN FROM USING ANY PROFANE, ABUSIVE, OR OBSCENE LANGUAGE. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY MATERIALS YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE TO TOWN COUNSEL, PLEASE GIVE THEM TO THE TOWN CLERK AFTER YOU ARE FINISHED SPEAKING. 
          KIM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE HAVE THREE. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. DAVID MARTIN, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. 
          AS I SAT HERE AND WATCHED ALL THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE ON THIS ISLAND, HOW PROUD ARE WE TO BE HILTON HEAD ISLANDERS? YOU KNOW, AND I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, BUT I LOOK AROUND AND I THINK IT'S THE BEST HOMETOWN EVER. 
          BUT I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF PARKING. 
          THANKS FOR THE SHOUT OUT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE DISCUSSING LAST YEAR WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PAID PARKING AND WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION, BUT IT'S GOING REALLY QUIET AND I'VE SENT A FEW EMAILS AND I'M HERE TODAY JUST TO TRY TO FIND OUT WHERE WE AT. 
          WE HAD THE WHILE WING, UH, BUILDING IT IS IN THE BUDGET FROM WHAT MR. JOSH WAS TELLING ME BEFORE WE LEFT. 
          AND I JUST WANNA KNOW AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT JUST GOING ALSO DOWN THE HILL. 
          AND THEN IN ABOUT THREE MONTHS WHEN IT GETS REALLY CRAZY DOWN THERE, WHEN WE HAD THE HERITAGE AND EASTER, WHICH ON THE SAME WEEKEND THIS YEAR, IT'S GONNA BE A MESS. 
          UM, THE TOWN HAS GRACIOUSLY IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO YEARS PUT SOME PARKING SERVICES DOWN THERE. 
          BEFORE THAT, WE WERE DOWN THERE BY OURSELVES, NO ORGANIZATION. 
          AND WHEN MY PEOPLE AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LIKE THE TOURISTS SO MUCH, A LOT OF THAT CHAOS IS CAUSED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY PLANNING PART OF IT. 
          AND I WAS DOWN THERE LAST YEAR DOING, UH, HERITAGE ON A FRIDAY AND BY NINE O'CLOCK THAT PARKING LOT WAS FULL WITH HERITAGE. 
          AND WE HAVE EASTER AND WE HAVE BEACH COVERS COMING, WHICH THAT PARKING LOT IS DESIGNED FOR THAT. 
          AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE MUSEUM AND YOU HAVE THE PARK IN THERE. 
          WE HAVE FOUR USES FOR A PARKING LOT OF 395 HISTORY MILES. 
          WE DON'T GO TOO MUCH FARTHER INTO IT. 
          WE HAVE LOST SOME PARKING SPOTS, SO WE ARE STILL ARE REALLY CHAOTIC DOWN THERE IN SUMMER RIGHT NOW. 
          I AM SO RELAXED. 
          I DON'T EVEN WANT TO COME HERE TODAY. 
          I COULD ALMOST FELL ASLEEP BACK THERE, BUT THE SUMMER'S COMING AND I WANTED YOU GUYS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT WE NEED SOME HELP DOWN THERE. 
          UM, IT'S UH, IT'S, IT'S A REALLY CHAOTIC SITUATION AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KIND, IF YOU CAME DOWN THERE YOU WOULD SEE IT AND YOU WENT DOWN THERE TODAY AS NO ONE. 
          BUT, UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE FESTIVALS COME ON, ON THE BUSY WEEKEND FOR US IN THE HOSPITALITY WORLD, EASTER WEEK AND 4TH OF JULY WEEK ARE OUR BIGGEST WEEKS. 
          AND THE IMPACT OF THE PARKING DOWN THERE ON US, WE DON'T SEE MANY PEOPLE FROM HERITAGE COMING OVER. 
          I I KNOW WE HAVE UM, CAR LICENSE PLATE LEADERS NOW, SO MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME DATA. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LAST YEAR, BUT I DON'T SEE MANY PEOPLE AFTER THE DETERMINE COMING INTO KIG. 
          SO IT REALLY IS A BUZZKILL FOR US BECAUSE I CAN'T GET MY CUSTOMERS IN THERE. 
          I KNOW MR. ALFRED AND SOME OF US HAVE TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO DO SECURITY AT KAEGY AND UM, BY THE WAY, I OWN THE PIGGLEY, SO IT'S, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DO. 
          WE'D HAVE TO MARCH, WE'D HAVE TO BLOCK OFF ENTRANCES. 
          IT'S, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE AND I'D LOVE THAT YOU GUYS WOULD COME HELP ME ONE DAY, IT'D BE GREAT, BUT I JUST THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT FROM A BIGGER PERSPECTIVE. 
          I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING BESIDES THE TOWN NOT CAUSING THE PROBLEM TO BE WORSE BY NOT ADDRESSING THE PARKING. 
          THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU DAVE. 
          COME NEXT. 
          AMBER CUAN. 
          WELL THAT WAS A FUN MEETING. 
          THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING VERY, UH, THOROUGH AND WELCOME MELINDA AND STEVE. 
          UM, TO THE COUNCIL. 
          UH, MY NAME IS AMBER KUHN AND OF COURSE MARK AND ALLEN AND I MANAGE 
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THE SEA TURTLE PATROL ON HEALTH AND HEAD ISLAND. 
          AND I HAVE SOMETHING RELATED TO THAT COMMENT AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE WILD WINGS BUILDING. 
          UM, I ALSO GREW UP HERE AND I DON'T WANNA SEE PARKING LOTS, UM, EVERYWHERE. 
          I DO AGREE THAT WE HAVE A PARKING ISSUE. 
          I ALSO KNOW THAT THE TOWN HAS BOUGHT A SECOND PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET FROM WILD WINGS THAT COULD ALSO SERVE AS A PARKING LOT. 
          I'D RATHER NOT SEE BOTH OF THEM BE PARKING LOTS. 
          UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LOCATION THAT IS IN SUCH PROXIMITY TO AN ACCESS THAT IS VERY, UM, HIGH TRAFFIC. 
          AND WITH THAT, GOING TO THE BEACH IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF LOCALS DON'T DO DURING THE TIME THAT I DO. 
          AND THAT IS WHEN SEA TURTLE PATROL'S IN FULL SWING. 
          WE HAVE SHORE BEACH SERVICES OUT THERE. 
          WE KNOW THAT WHEN THAT PARKING LOT AT MALIGNA IS FULL, THE BEACH IS ACTUALLY OVERWHELMED. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, FOR BUSINESSES THAT NEED PARKING, UM, KALMIA IS A SPECIAL CASE BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO GET ON THE BEACH THERE IN ASSOCIATION WITH THOSE BUSINESSES AS WELL, BUT THEY BENEFIT FROM THAT FOOT TRAFFIC. 
          I JUST FEEL LIKE FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A PARKING LOT IN THAT AREA. 
          TIMES TWO, ONE. 
          YES. 
          UM, THE BUILDING HAS NOT BEEN LEVELED YET. 
          I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU RECONSIDER DEMOING THAT BUILDING AS WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR IT. 
          WE HAVE SHORE BEACH SERVICES THAT COULD HAVE A, A SATELLITE OFFICE AT THAT LOCATION SO THAT THEY COULD RESPOND QUICKER, UM, WITH THEIR TRUCKS IF THEY'RE NOT ON THE BEACH AT THAT EXACT LOCATION. 
          WE ALSO HAVE, UM, THE BEACH OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE WORK CLOSELY WITH AND WE HAVE THE, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. 
          ALL OF US ARE ON THE BEACH ALL SUMMER LONG AND IT'D BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE SOMEWHERE WHERE WE COULD OPERATE OUT OF. 
          UH, THE SEA TURTLE PATROL HAS BEEN IN A TENT FOR 30 YEARS. 
          WE HAVE BECOME A TOWN AFFILIATED AGENCY AND WE NEED WALLS. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PUT MY EXHIBITS. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PUT MY HATCHLING IN A TANK AND I'VE REALLY LIKED THE PUBLIC TO GET TO SEE AND LEARN MORE. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO SHARE THE SPACE WITH SHORE BEACH SERVICES, UM, TO HAVE A ONE SATELLITE OFFICE, CODE ENFORCEMENT BEACH OPERATIONS AND SOMEWHERE WHERE THE PUBLIC COULD COME ASK QUESTIONS AND LEARN MORE ABOUT BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE BEACH. 
          UM, I FEEL LIKE AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO HAVE A HOME AND IT, IF IT'S NOT THERE, WHICH IS THE PERFECT LOCATION, UM, IT COULD BE SOMEWHERE. 
          I NEED SOMETHING MORE THAN A TENT. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO TELL YOU MORE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU KIM. 
          NEXT GRACE SMITH. 
          HELLO. 
          I'D FIRST LIKE TO THANK, UH, MS. BRYSON FOR HER SUPPORT FOR OUR MATURE TREES ON THE ISLAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WANNA READ SOMETHING THAT WAS WRITTEN BY A FELLOW HILTON HEAD RESIDENT AND THEN I HAVE A REQUEST FOR YOU BASED ON WHAT I'M GOING TO READ. 
          YOU. 
          DEVELOPMENT NOT SLOWING DOWN. 
          NOW COMING TO THE NORTH END ON MAS. 
          SAY BYE-BYE TO QUIET AND QUAINT FISH. 
          WALL BEACH WAS PERUSING ZILLOW JUST TO SEE WHAT HOUSES WERE GOING FOR AND STUMBLED ON THIS PROPERTY LISTING OFF FISH HALL ROAD. 
          MORE CONDOS TOWN HOMES APPROVED ON PORT ROYAL SOUND. 
          LISTING REMARKS, RARE APPROVED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          THE PROPERTY IS APPROVED FOR 66 CONDO UNITS. 
          THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ACROSS FROM MITCHELLVILLE BEACH AND SHORT DRIVE TO MAIN STREET SURROUNDED BY SUCCESSFUL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. 
          THIS PROPERTY IS ONE OF THE LAST UNDEVELOPED PARCELS ON THE ISLAND. 
          FINAL APPROVAL WILL BE GRANTED AFTER THE BUYER SUBMITS ARCHITECTURAL PLANS. 
          PLEASE INQUIRE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. 
          NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THESE 66 UNITS ARE TWO OTHER, UH, PLOTS OF LAND THAT ARE EACH APPROVED FOR 20 PLUS UNITS. 
          SO THAT'S JUST IN THIS BEAUTIFUL ALMOST OCEANSIDE AREA OF MITCHELLVILLE ARE OVER 106 CONDO UNITS APPROVED. 
          SO HERE'S MY REQUEST. 
          WHERE AM I HERE? OKAY. 
          UM, IN, I THINK IT WAS MAY OF 23, MISSY LEWIS STOOD RIGHT HERE AND SAID, WE ARE WORKING ON THE LMO, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE IT BACK AND READY BY JULY OF 23. 
          AND WE'RE, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE IT'S GOING BACK TO REVERT TO THE ORIGINAL PRE 2014, MAXIMUM FOUR UNIT PER ACRE, UH, STATURE. 
          WE'RE 
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STILL WAITING FOR THAT. 
          IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN 23, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN 24, BUT THIS ISLAND, UNLESS FORGET MYRTLE BEACH, WE'RE GOING RIGHT TO FORT LAUDERDALE WITH ALL THESE HIGH-RISE CONDOS BEING, BEING CONSTRUCTED ON OUR BEACH. 
          AND I WANNA KNOW WHO APPROVED IT BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT I GET WHENEVER I TALK TO ANYBODY AT THE TOWN, OH, WELL YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT WAS APPROVED SO LONG AGO, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. 
          I GET THAT ALL THE TIME AND I'VE GOTTEN IT FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. 
          SO WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IS YOU FOLKS STEP UP, GET THAT LMO BACK TO A REASONABLE LEVEL FOR HILTON HEAD. 
          I THINK THAT FOUR UNITS PER ACRE WITH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME EXCEPTIONS, BUT NOT THIS GRADUATED LENGTH METHOD WHERE, OH, YOU GOT THREE ACRES, YOU CAN DO SIX UNITS PER AC. 
          OH, YOU GOT EIGHT ACRES, YOU CAN DO 18, UH, UNITS PER ACRE. 
          NOT GOOD FOR OUR ISLAND. 
          AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD BRING IT BACK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JIM. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          SO, MR. ORLANDO, DO WE HAVE A 
          [10. Executive Session]
NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, SIR. 
          UH, AS SHOWN ON TOWN COUNCIL AGENDA, EXEC SESSION ITEMS A, B, C, AND D. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          SECOND. 
          WE GOT A FIRST AND SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE. 
          SEAT TO FILE BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          WELL SERIES. 
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          THAT BALL IS WAY BACK GONE. 
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          KIM, ARE ARE 
          [11. Action from Executive Session]
WE GOOD TO GO? YEP. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? I MOVED SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          WE ARE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          MR. BROWN, DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES SIR. 
          MR. MAY I MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR AND TOWN MANAGER TO SIGN A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IN CASE 2 0 21 DASH CP DASH ZERO SEVEN DASH 6 5 0 AS EXPLAINED BY THE TOWN ATTORNEYS? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OH, THERE'S A MOTION FOR SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL? ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOU. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          WE ARE ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
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