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          CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY AFTERNOON. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS SPECIAL TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING TO ORDER ON THIS THURSDAY, JANUARY 9TH, 2025. 
          BEFORE I MOVE TO ADOPT THE AGENDA, UM, WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE WORKSHOP AGENDA ITEM. 
          UM, IF YOU HAVE NOT SIGNED UP, PLEASE SEE MS. SANDA, UM, TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK AFTER THAT. 
          UM, WE'LL LET THAT, UM, STAY OPEN FOR TILL ABOUT ONE 10 OR SO SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN GET SIGNED UP IF THEY WISH TO SPEAK. 
          UM, WITH THAT SAID, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA? SO HAVE A SECOND. 
          I A SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE GOT A FIRST AND A SECOND. 
          ALL IS A FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          MAY I HAVE A JUST A MOMENT, A CONVERSATION? I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO SIGN UP SO THAT IF YOU DO THINK OF A QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE HEARING THE DISCUSSION, YOU'RE NOT LIMITED TO BEING ABLE TO SPEAK BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT SIGNED UP. 
          SO TAKE THE INITIATIVE AND JUST GO AHEAD AND SIGN UP JUST IN CASE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT TODAY. 
          THIS IS A, AGAIN, A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR US TO DISCUSS AND TO BRING TO THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED. 
          UM, I AM GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT AT ABOUT FOUR O'CLOCK I'M GONNA CALL FOR AN, AN ADJOURNMENT IF WE ARE IN A POSITION TO DO SO. 
          I WANT THIS MEETING TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO AND WE HAVE GOT TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE, COME UP WITH NEW QUESTIONS, FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO, TO WELCOME, UM, SOME, SOME DIG DIGNIFIED GUESTS. 
          FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE COUNTY COUNCIL CHAIR, ALICE HOWARD, UH, VICE CHAIR, TAB, TABER COUNCILWOMAN, PAULA BROWN, MICHAEL MOORE, JARED ICK, TOM RE, SENATOR TOM DAVIS, LARRY MCKELLEN, AND IF I MISSED ANYBODY, I AM SORRY. 
          AND A FORMER COUNCILMAN DAVID AMES IS IN THE BACK ROOM THINKING HE'S NOT UP ON THE DAES RIGHT NOW. 
          SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. ORLANDO, YES. 
          UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO JOIN US TODAY AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THIS COMMUNITY DRIVEN SOLUTION. 
          UM, WE CALL IT THE WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY GATEWAY CORRIDOR PROJECT. 
          UH, I WANNA START BY EXPRESSING MY GRATITUDE TO EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS, FROM THE TOWN COUNCIL TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, ESPECIALLY EVERYBODY WHO SHARED THEIR INPUT. 
          A, A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO SEAN AS WELL. 
          IT'S BEEN A COUPLE MONTHS, BUT SEAN'S BEEN OUR POINT OF CONTACT AND HAS BEEN THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR, FOR SOME TIME AND, AND DEFINITELY OUR PROJECT LEAD. 
          AND SEAN'S E EXUDED SOME DILIGENCE AND EXPERTISE AND IS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN KEEPING THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AND IF I COULD HELP, UM, REALLY HERE AS, AS TOWN MANAGER TO, TO HELP TOWN COUNCIL AND, AND, AND, AND SET THE, SET THE TABLE, SO TO SPEAK. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, THAT WE ESTABLISH, OR AT LEAST I PROPOSED, THAT WE ESTABLISH SOME CLEAR GOALS FOR TODAY. 
          UM, IN THAT REGARD, I THINK THAT SEAN PROVIDING A REAL TIME UPDATE TO TOWN COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ON THE STATUS OF, OF THIS PROJECT, ESPECIALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE ACTIONS BY DOT, BUFORT, COUNTY STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK, ALL THOSE ACTIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED, UM, IN THE CORRESPONDENCE WE'VE RECEIVED SINCE THE TOWN COUNCIL ADVANCED AN ME MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT SOME MONTHS AGO. 
          I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AVAILABLE PROJECT FUNDING. 
          UM, SO, AND THEN ALSO EXPLORE SOME OPTIONS IN THAT REGARD TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND THEN, WHILE PERHAPS NOT A DEEP DIVE, I I THINK THAT YOU, YOU SHOULD AT LEAST BEGIN SOME DISCUSSIONS ON YOUR POSITION REGARDING THE PROJECT SCOPE, RIGHT? AND, AND THE PROJECT SCOPE. 
          BY, BY THAT I MEAN THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT THAT YOU FORWARDED TO BEAUFORT COUNTY AND BEAUFORT COUNTY RESPONDED TO RECENTLY. 
          SO WITH THIS IN MIND, I SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING STRUCTURE, UM, STATUS UPDATE FROM SEAN, SELF-EXPLANATORY, TALK ABOUT FUNDING GAPS OR THE FUNDING SOURCE AND ANY GAP IMPLICATIONS. 
          UH, AND THEN, AS AT AN APPROPRIATE POINT TODAY OR SOON, IF NOT TODAY, SOON, TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT'S DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS. 
          AND IT INCLUDES EXPLORING A PROJECT. 
          AND WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT IN THE PAST WAS PERFORMANCE, A SENSE OF PLACE AND COST, AND HOW TO BALANCE ALL OF THOSE THREE FACTORS, NOT JUST ONE OR TWO OF THE THREE. 
          UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, COLLABORATION WITH DOT AND BEAUFORT COUNTY ARE IMPORTANT. 
          UM, MAYOR PERRY MENTIONED THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GET ON WITH THIS. 
          WE HAVE JUST, JUST 
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AS A REMINDER AND A, A REFRESHER REALLY, WE'VE REVIEWED PREVIOUS CITIZEN FEEDBACK WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, WITH BUFORT COUNTY, THE PROJECT SPONSOR, AND WITH YOUR DIRECTION TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GONNA KEEP EXPLORING AND ADVANCING THOSE COMMENTS THROUGH INTO DDOT IN BUFORT COUNTY. 
          SO I THINK SOME, YOU KNOW, TO REITERATE, I THINK SOME KEY DECISION POINTS TODAY ARE AT LEAST SOME DIRECTION AS FUNDING SCENARIOS, SCOPE, SCOPE OF WORK, DESIGN IMPLICATIONS. 
          UM, I THINK THAT SOME FUTURE MEETINGS WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY AND DOT FORMALLY ARE, ARE NEEDED. 
          AND, AND BEFORE WE LEAVE TODAY, I'M GONNA ASK AGAIN FOR YOUR CLEAR DIRECTION ON THAT FOR ME. 
          UM, AND THEN SEAN WILL GET INTO IT A LITTLE BIT TOO. 
          WE ARE STILL, WE'RE NOT STILL, WE ARE WAITING ON A COST BREAKDOWN, AN OPINION OF PROBABLE COST ON VARIOUS COMPONENT PIECES OF THIS PROJECT, RIGHT? SO WE, WE KNOW WHAT WE THINK THE BUDGET IS, BUT I KNOW THAT DOT IS WORKING ON BREAKING DOWN THE COST OF BRIDGE, THE COST OF INTERSECTION, THE COST OF ROAD LANE, UM, AND WE ANTICIPATE RECEIVING THAT INFORMATION MID-JANUARY. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT TODAY FROM SEAN OR I, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT YET. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR, UH, TRUSTED LEADER RIGHT HERE. 
          SEAN. 
          THANK YOU, MARK. 
          MAYOR, UH, TOWN COUNCIL. 
          UM, KIM, IF YOU CAN JUST PULL UP MY, THE STAFF REPORT, AND WE WILL, I'LL WALK THROUGH THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN FOCUS OF WHAT I WANNA COVER TODAY IS JUST THE SERIES OF EVENTS STARTING WITH THE TOWN COUNCIL ACTION ON JUNE 28TH, WHERE THEY ADOPTED A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT, UM, TO SEND TO BOTH BEAUFORT COUNTY AND SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          THAT OUTLINED THE EXPECTATIONS FOR THE PROJECT. 
          UM, THAT, THAT WHAT WAS ON JAN ON JUNE 28TH, 2024. 
          AND IT WAS FORWARDED ON TO BUFORT COUNTY, UH, AND THE STATE DOT IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER. 
          UM, JUMPING FORWARD A FEW MONTHS, THE, UH, BUFORT COUNTY, UH, LOOKED AT, LOOKED AT IT THROUGH SOME EVALUATION AND PROVIDED A RESPONSE TO THE TOWN ON NOVEMBER 27TH. 
          THE, UM, THE RESPONSE WAS TAKING THE TOWN'S AGREEMENT AND SPLITTING IT INTO TWO AGREEMENTS. 
          THE TOWN AGREEMENT HAD THREE MAIN CATEGORIES. 
          ONE WAS PROJECT DESIGN, ONE WAS STONY HISTORIC COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT, AND ONE WAS ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY. 
          THE COUNTY'S MOAS HAD THE PROJECT DESIGN IN ONE ELEMENT AS THEY DEFINED IT, THE WOMEN PARKWAY GATEWAY CORRIDOR PROJECT. 
          AND THE SECOND MOA WAS DEFINED AS THE STONY HISTORIC COMMUNITY, UM, IMPROVEMENT, MOA. 
          AND THAT COVERED THE, UH, SONY IMPROVEMENTS AND THE ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY PROVISIONS OF THE, UH, TOWN'S M MO, UH, MOA. 
          THERE WERE 28 TOTAL PROVISIONS IN THE MOA THAT THE TOWN DELIVERED. 
          UM, AND I CAN AT A LATER POINT IN THIS MEETING, IF NEEDED, GO THROUGH AT A HIGH LEVEL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE TOWN SENT AND, AND THE PROVISIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED AND WHAT THE COUNTY SENT BACK, UM, BEFORE WE RECEIVED THE RESPONSE. 
          THERE WAS AN ELECTION, OBVIOUSLY, UH, FIRST TUESDAY IN NOVEMBER, UM, HAD THE REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT FOR THE SPECIAL USE SALES TAX, 90 MILLION OF WHICH WAS PLEDGED, UM, OR WOULD'VE BEEN ALLOCATED TOWARD THE FUNDING GAP FOR THIS PROJECT THAT REFERENDUM FAILED. 
          SUBSEQUENTLY, OR SUBSEQUENT TO THAT ACTION, THE BEAUFORT COUNTY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE STATE SOUTH CAROLINA, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE BANK, UM, ADVISING THEM THAT THEY HAD 15 DAYS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FROM RECEIPT OF THE LETTER, UH, FUNDING PLAN, UM, IN LIEU OF THE FIELD REFERENDUM TO MAKE UP THE FUNDING GAP OF APPROXIMATELY 190, UH, MILLION DOLLARS. 
          I'M GONNA READ THE LETTER, UM, JUST BEAR WITH ME FOR A SECOND. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE INTERGOVERNMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE BANK PROVIDES BEAUFORT COUNTY PROVIDES THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OVERAGES OVER THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT. 
          THE TOTAL PROJECT COST REFERENCED IN THE IGA IS $292,350,000. 
          THE BANK'S COMMITMENT IS A GRANT OF 120 MILLION. 
          AN UPDATED TOTAL PROJECT COST NOW RANGES BETWEEN 425 MILLION AND 480 MILLION DEPENDING ON THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT. 
          YOUR LETTER INDICATED BEAUFORT COUNTY WOULD ALLOCATE 90 MILLION TOWARD THE OVERAGE WITH FUNDING COMING FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX. 
          NOW THAT THE TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX HAS BEEN SOUNDLY REJECTED, PLEASE PROVIDE A DETAILED AND COMPLETE EXPLANATION OF HOW BEAUFORT COUNTY INTENDS TO FUND. 
          ITS APPROXIMATELY $200 MILLION REQUIREMENT. 
          YOUR LETTER QUESTIONS OR REQUESTED, THE BANK PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL GRANT OF 90 MILLION TO GO TOWARD THE FUNDING SHORTFALL. 
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AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THE BANK BOARD MUST OBTAIN BETTER INFORMATION FROM BUFORT COUNTY, HOW IT INTENDS TO FUND THE SHORTFALL BEFORE THE BANK CAN COM CONTEMPLATE WHETHER TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL GRANT DOLLARS TO THE PROJECT. 
          UM, THE LETTER DATED NOVEMBER 7TH SAID, PLEASE RESPOND WITHIN 15 DAYS TO THE, UH, SO THE BANK BOARD CAN MAKE A DECISION ON BEST HOW TO PROCEED. 
          THAT LETTER WAS FROM CHAIRMAN JOHN WHITE, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA INFRASTRUCTURE BANK. 
          UH, SHORTLY THEREAFTER, UM, THE COUNTY WAS IN RECEIPT OF ANOTHER LETTER THIS TIME FROM SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION, JUSTIN POWELL. 
          THAT LETTER WAS DATED NOVEMBER 18TH, 2024. 
          AND AGAIN, BEAR WITH ME, I I'LL READ IT SO EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO THIS INFORMATION. 
          UM, DEAR MR. MOORE, UM, I APPRECIATE THE ONGOING PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN BUFORT COUNTY AND THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          UM, DEVELOPMENT OF THE US 2 78 PROJECT BETWEEN BLUFFTON AND HILTON ISLAND, S-C-D-O-T HAS HAD THE US 2 78 EASTBOUND BRIDGE OVER MACING CREEK ON ITS PRIORITY LIST FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 
          THIS STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN 1956 AND IS REACHING THE END OF ITS DESIGN LIFE. 
          RECENT BRIDGE INSPECTIONS HAVE RATED THE BRIDGE AS A FOUR OUT OF 10 OR POOR. 
          DUE TO THE ADVANCED AGE AND CURRENT CONDITION OF THE STRUCTURE, S-E-D-O-T INSPECTS THE BRIDGE ANNUALLY RATHER THAN BI-ANNUALLY. 
          LIKE MOST OTHER BRIDGES IN THE STATE'S INVENTORY, THE PRESENT US 2 78 PROJECT INITIATED OUT OF A DESIRE FROM BUFORT COUNTY TO REPLACE ALL OF THE BRIDGES AND APPROVED TRAFFIC OPERATIONS BETWEEN BLUFFTON AND HILTON, HILTON AND ISLAND. 
          IN LIEU OF A SEPARATE PROJECT FOR THE MACKEY CREEK BRIDGE, ONLY S-C-D-O-T ENTERED INTO AN INTERGOVERNMENT AGREEMENT WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY TO SERVE AS PROJECT MANAGER OF THE US 2 78 BRIDGE AND BRIDGE AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. 
          THROUGH THIS PARTNERSHIP, THE PROJECT HAS PROGRESSED THROUGH MANY STEPS UP TO THIS POINT, INCLUDING OBTAINING MUNICIPAL CONSENT FROM THE TOWN OF HILTON ISLAND. 
          S-C-D-O-T ANTICIPATES A FEDERAL DECISION FINDING OF NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION IN THE FIRST HALF OF 2025, AND IS PREPARED TO MOVE INTO RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION IN LATE 2025. 
          THIS WOULD PUT THE PROJECT ON TRACK TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION IN 2027, AS WAS COMMUNICATED BY FORMER SECRETARY HALL EARLIER THIS YEAR. 
          THE PROJECT'S CURRENT ESTIMATED BUDGET IS 488 MILLION, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 190 MILLION SHORT OF THE AMOUNT OF THE AMOUNT PRESENTLY COMMITTED TO THE PROJECT FROM BUFORT COUNTY TO SOUTH CAROLINA TRANSPORTATION, INFRA INFRASTRUCTURE BANK AND S-E-D-O-T, I'M AWARE THAT THERE IS A PENDING REQUEST TO THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE BANK TO COVER 90 MILLION OF THE SHORTFALL THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AT THEIR NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING. 
          I AM ALSO AWARE THAT THE REFERENDUM TO FUND BEAUFORT COUNTY'S PORTION OF THE SHORTFALL DID NOT PASS ON NOVEMBER 5TH, THE CONDITION OF THE US 2 78 EASTBOUND BRIDGE CONCERNS ME, ESPECIALLY IN THE HARSH ENVIRONMENT AFFECTED BY SALTWATER AND TIDES. 
          THE IS AT RISK IN THE FUTURE OF BEING LOWEST POD LOWEST LOAD POSTED, WHICH CAN LIMIT THE ABILITY OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES, COMMERCIAL TRUCKS, AND SCHOOL BUSES TO GO ACCESS THE ISLAND. 
          REHABILITATION IS AN UNDESIRABLE OPTION WITH A CURRENT ESTIMATE OF 50 MILLION BEING NEEDED TO ADD JUST 10 YEARS TO THE BRIDGE'S LIFESPAN. 
          WHILE A COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION OF REPLACING ALL STRUCTURES AND APPROVING TRAFFIC OPERATIONS IS MOST I IS THE MOST IDEAL PATH FORWARD, WE ARE APPROACHING A POINT WHERE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE ON THE PRO, ON THE USC 70 EASTBOUND BRIDGE OVER MACING CREEK. 
          AND THE PROFESSIONAL OPINION OF T'S ENGINEERING TEAM, A DECISION MUST BE MADE BY MARCH 31ST, 2025. 
          IF THE US 2 78 PROJECT IS CONTINUED WITH FUNDING IDENTIFIED FOR CONSTRUCTION, IF NOT, S-C-D-O-T WILL BE PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TERMINATING EXISTING AGREEMENTS BETWEEN S-C-D-O-T AND BUFORT COUNTY, SO THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT TIME TO DESIGN AND PERMIT A NEW BRIDGE SOLELY TO REPLACE THE EXISTING US 2 78 EASTBOUND BRIDGE OVER MACING CREEK. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS, UH, SET, SENT AND DELIVERED BY OUR SECRETARY OF SECRETARY GUIN POWELL, MAYOR WALTERS BRICK. 
          UM, CAN I ASK WHEN WOULD YOU PREFER TO, UH, COUNSEL WILL IN, UH, ASK QUESTIONS AFTER, UH, THE SPEAKERS ARE DONE? AFTER THE SPEAKERS ARE DONE? YES. 
          SO SEAN WILL GO, I'M GONNA INVITE, UH, SENATOR DAVIS TO COME UP AND SPEAK AND, UH, CHAIRWOMAN, UH, ALICE HOWARD TO SPEAK AS WELL, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE CONVERSATION. 
          OH, UH, THE NEXT EVENT WAS A MEETING OF THE SOUTH SOUTH CAROLINA STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK ON NOVEMBER 20TH, UM, WHERE THEY CONSIDERED A REQUEST FOR BUFORT COUNTY FOR THE ADDITIONAL $90 MILLION, UH, THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED AS PART OF THE, UM, THE SALES TAX REFERENDUM, UM, UH, FUNDING STRUCTURE, 
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UM, BASED ON THE FAILED REFERENDUM AS THE SOUTH INFRASTRUCTURE BANK DID NOT APPROVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, BUT DID GRANT, UM, EXTENSION UNTIL MARCH 31ST. 
          AS I MENTIONED IN THEIR LETTER, IT WAS A 15 DAY, UM, SHOT CLOCK FROM NOVEMBER 7TH TO NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER 22ND. 
          UM, THEY EXTENDED THE, UM, THEIR GRANTED EXTENSION OF MARCH 31ST, CONSISTENT WITH THE DEADLINE THAT WAS PROVIDED BY SECRETARY JUSTIN POWELL. 
          UM, AFTER THAT, AND ON DECEMBER, UH, SIXTH, THERE WAS A MEETING, UM, THAT WAS HELD AT BUFORT COUNTY'S REQUEST, UM, TO CONSIDER THE LETTERS BOTH FROM THE, FROM THE S-C-D-O-T AND THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK. 
          UM, THE LIST OF REPRESENTATIVES IS UP ON THE SCREEN. 
          UM, BUT THE OUTCO OR THE IN INTENT WAS TO DISCUSS THE CURRENT FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT, THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE FAILED SALES TAX REFERENDUM, AND I REALLY IDENTIFY WHAT THE FUNDING GAP IS AND, AND, UM, AND SEE WHAT POTENTIAL, UH, OPTIONS WERE AVAILABLE TO MOVE THE PROJECT PROJECT FORWARD. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, FINALLY ON DECEMBER 19TH, I ATTENDED A MEETING ALONG WITH SOME REPRESENTATIVES, UH, FROM, UH, BUFORT COUNTY, UH, AND SENATOR DAVIS, UM, IN COLUMBIA, UH, WITH THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION, JUSTIN POWELL AND HIS TEAM, UM, WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE SAME, UH, THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE TODAY, PROJECT FUNDING STATUS, POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES, OPTIONS TO ADDRESS DEFICIENCIES, AND TO ASK FOR THEIR, UM, ASSISTANCE TO PROVIDE BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE PROJECT ELEMENTS SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THE $488 MILLION IS COMBINED, UH, TOGETHER, UH, THROUGH AN ITEMIZED, MORE OF AN ITEMIZED LIST. 
          UM, THAT COMPLETES WHAT, WHAT'S OFFICIALLY HAPPENED FROM JUNE 28TH WHEN TOWN COUNCIL TOOK ACTION, UH, THROUGH AND UP TO, UM, THE MEETING TODAY, UM, THAT I PROVIDED, UM, TO TOWN COUNCIL. 
          UM, THERE'S A BUNCH OF ATTACHMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, AND I'M, AND I CAN GO THROUGH ANY OF THOSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH DISCUSSION, UH, HERE TODAY. 
          BUT, UH, MAYOR, THAT COVERS WHAT MY MAIN, MAIN INTENT TO GET, GET THROUGH THIS TIMELINE AND PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE AT THIS POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, SEAN. 
          UH, SENATOR DAVIS, UM, I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU UP TO, TO, TO SPEAK. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, AND, UH, THANK YOU, UM, SEAN FOR THAT, THAT SUMMARY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT TO Y'ALL. 
          HE'S JUST BEEN EXTRAORDINARILY, UH, HELPFUL AND EFFICIENT THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT HE'S DONE ALONG WITH JARED FRAX, UM, SUPPLEMENT A LITTLE BIT OF THE INFORMATION, UM, THAT HE PROVIDED. 
          UM, I MET YESTERDAY WITH SECRETARY POWELL, AND, UM, HE PROVIDED ME WITH UPDATED ESTIMATES IN REGARD TO THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT THAT, THAT YOU MAYOR. 
          AND, UM, UH, AND THEN CHAIRMAN PASSMAN HAD REQUESTED THAT HE WANTED, YOU BOTH WANTED TO HAVE COST ESTIMATES FOR VARIOUS SEGMENTS OF THE PROJECT IDENTIFIED SO THAT IN PUBLIC SESSION, THROUGH FULL DISCUSSION, THERE COULD BE AN INFORMED DECISION MADE IN REGARD TO, UM, IF YOU WERE GONNA BE CONSTRAINED BY DOLLARS ON HAND. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU WERE GONNA GO THAT APPROACH, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PICK THE COMPONENTS THAT WOULD GIVE THE BEST OUTCOME GIVEN THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAD. 
          UM, I ALSO, UM, HAVE MET OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS WITH, UH, WESTON NEWTON, UH, JEFF BRADLEY AND BILL HARP PERMAN. 
          UM, THEY CAN'T BE HERE TODAY. 
          THEY'RE AT A MEETING IN CHARLESTON. 
          UM, OTHERWISE THEY WOULD BE HERE. 
          AND GIVEN OUR DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH SECRETARY POWELL AND ALSO WITH CHAIRMAN WHITE, AND, AND ALSO HAVING OBSERVED THE MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE CONDUCTED OVER THE PAST YEARS, UM, I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO PUT INTO WRITING, UM, A THREE PAGE SUMMARY OF WHAT I THINK IS A FEASIBLE PATH FORWARD, GIVEN THE TIME CONSTRAINTS WE'RE OPERATING ON UNDER AND GIVEN THE AVAILABLE FUNDS. 
          AND, UM, AND, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING IT OUT LATE, IT JUST GOT FINALIZED THIS MORNING. 
          UM, BUT, UM, THE PREMISE BEHIND WHAT I'VE PROPOSED HERE IS THAT IT IS UNLIKELY TO GET AN ADDITIONAL $190 MILLION FROM THE SIB, UM, OR A PORTION OF THAT $190 MILLION FROM THE SIB. 
          I, I JUST VERY FRANK IN THAT REGARD, IN TALKING TO CHAIRMAN WHITE, UM, NOT ONLY ARE OTHER PROJECTS OVER BUDGET LIKE CHARLESTON, AND THEY RECENTLY TURNED CHARLESTON DOWN AND THEN TOOK AWAY CHARLESTON'S FOUR $20 MILLION SIB GRANT. 
          SO THAT'S THE MOOD THEY'RE IN. 
          UM, THERE'S ALSO OTHER PROJECTS QUEUED UP FOR THIS NEXT ROUND OF FUNDING. 
          AND SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA BE VERY, UM, STRAIGHTFORWARD IN REGARD TO THE TASK OF GETTING MORE MONEY FROM THE CIP, UM, TO JUST WANNA SAY THAT UP FRONT. 
          SO, SO WHAT THE FOUR OF US, UM, HER PERMAN, NEWTON BRADLEY AND MYSELF HAVE PROPOSED IN THIS LETTER IS PREDICATED UPON 
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A FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY, $300 MILLION ROUGHLY, UM, AND A PATH FORWARD GIVING THAT MONEY IN OUR OPINION. 
          NOW, ULTIMATELY, IT'S UP TO THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY TO DECIDE, BUT THESE ARE OUR, OUR THOUGHTS IN, IN THAT REGARD. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO UPDATED ESTIMATES, UM, ON CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR VARIOUS SEGMENTS, UM, WE ALSO SECURE FROM SECRETARY POWELL YESTERDAY A COMMITMENT TO, UH, FOR DOT TO ALLOCATE ANOTHER $16.1 MILLION TO THE PROJECT. 
          AND SO WHAT THIS LETTER THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU DOES IS LOOKS AT EXISTING SOURCES OF STATE AND NON-STATE FUNDS, UM, SUBTRACTS FROM THAT EXPENDITURES, FROM THOSE AMOUNTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE AND ADDS TO THAT THE $16.1 MILLION THAT SECRETARY POWELL HAS AGREED TO COMMIT TO THE PROJECT TO COME UP WITH A DEFINED UNIVERSE OF MONEY THAT YOU HAVE. 
          UM, THERE IS, THERE IS THEN THE ESTIMATE IN REGARD TO, UM, THE COST OF THE, OF THE, UM, VARIOUS SEGMENTS OF THE PROJECT. 
          UM, THE ONE THAT WAS APPEALING TO THE FOUR OF US, UM, IS THAT IT WILL COST APPROXIMATELY $250 MILLION TO BUILD A NEW THREE LANE EASTBOUND SPAN, UH, BEGINNING AT MOSS CREEK, CONTINUING ON TO PINCKNEY ISLAND. 
          CONTINUING OVER THAT TO, TO, UH, WINDMILL HARBOR, UM, IMMEDIATELY PARALLEL TO THE EXISTING TWO LANE SPAN. 
          THAT WOULD COST ABOUT $250 MILLION, UM, GIVEN THE AVAILABLE STATE AND NON-STATE MONEY, THAT LEAVES APPROXIMATELY FOUR, IF YOU DECIDED TO GO THAT ROUTE, IT WOULD LEAVE APPROXIMATELY $40 MILLION TO DO SOMETHING WITH WHAT I CALL THE ON ISLAND IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WOULD BE FROM WINDMILL HARBOR TO THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY. 
          AND NOW THAT WOULD NECESSITATE AN EXPANSION OF THE SCOPE OF THE ADJUSTING PROJECT BEYOND SPANISH WELLS TO CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY. 
          UM, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD IDENTIFY OR LEAVE $40 MILLION IN PLACE FOR THAT. 
          IT IS SECRETARY POWELL'S OPINION THAT IF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS OR COURSE CORRECTIONS OR SCALED DOWN APPROACH WAS TAKEN, UM, THAT THERE'D BE A CATEGORICAL EXCLUSION DESIGNATION GIVEN TO, UM, THE, JUST DOING THE THREE LANE EASTBOUND SPAN FROM THE MAINLAND TO HILTON HEAD. 
          SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A DELAY IN THE NEPA PROCESS. 
          IT WOULD, IT WOULD FALL UNDER THAT, THAT CE UH, EXCEPTION. 
          HE ALSO BELIEVES THAT, UM, A REASONABLE CASE COULD BE MADE FOR THE PROPOSITION THAT THE ON ISLAND PIECE FROM WINDMILL HARBOR TO CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY COULD BE DESIGNATED AND WOULD BE DESIGNATED BY THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION AS A SEPARATE PROJECT. 
          OKAY? SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULDN'T BE TIED TO AND DEPENDENT UPON WHAT YOU DO IN REGARD TO THE, TO THE EASTBOUND SPAN. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. 
          I, I THINK IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO LOOK AT THIS PROJECT, UM, NOT IN ISOLATION, BUT AS A WHOLE, EXTENDING THE TERMINUS TO CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY, WHICH I THINK IS A, A, A REASONABLE THING TO DO. 
          UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WORK, TO BE VERY FRANK. 
          AND I THINK ALL OF THEM ARE DOABLE, BUT I WANNA IDENTIFY THEM. 
          UM, THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE SIB WOULD BE RENEGOTIATED HAVE TO BE RENEGOTIATED. 
          UH, WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO PERSUADE THE, THE SIB THAT THE $80 MILLION MATCH REQUIREMENT, UM, IS STILL VALID IN REGARD TO THE 120 MILLION, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT DOING THE ENTIRE PROJECT, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT DOING THE WESTBOUND SPAN. 
          AND I GUESS I SHOULD MENTION THAT TOO, UNDER THIS SUGGESTED APPROACH, UM, THE TWO LANE WESTBOUND SPAN FROM THE ISLAND EXTENDING TO THE MAINLAND WOULD REMAIN IN PLACE, UH, FOR A, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          IT WOULD BE NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, WHICH I THINK IS DEFENSIBLE BECAUSE THOSE SPANS HAVE A USEFUL LIFE OF 20 PLUS YEARS. 
          UM, AND, UM, AND ANYWAY, THE OTHER VIRTUES OF THIS APPROACH WOULD BE YOU TAKE CARE OF, UM, WHICH IS REALLY THE MOST PRESSING PROBLEM, WHICH IS THE MACKEY CREEK EASTBOUND SPAN, WHICH IS, UH, IN, IN VERY STRUCTURALLY IMPAIRED. 
          UM, IT ALSO SATISFIES, UH, THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION REQUIREMENT THAT WE EXPAND, UH, ACCESS, UM, BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE INCREASING IT BY A LANE, OKAY? BY HAVING THREE LANES EASTBOUND, OF COURSE, BY DEFINITION, THAT EXPANDS IT BY A LANE. 
          UM, THE PROPOSAL, THE ESTIMATE THAT SECRETARY POWELL GAVE ABOUT $250 MILLION FOR THAT EASTBOUND SPAN, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, DOES NOT INCLUDE THE MULTIPURPOSE, UH, OF THE MPUS. 
          OKAY? THE MULTIPURPOSE BIKE LANES. 
          I MEAN, THAT WOULD ADD ANOTHER 30, $40 MILLION ONTO IT. 
          UM, AND IF YOU WENT THAT ROUTE, THAT WOULD MEAN THERE'S LESS OF THAT MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THE ON ISLAND COMPONENT. 
          BUT OF COURSE, ALL OF THIS I WANT TO, I WANNA REITERATE, IS WITHIN THE DISCRETION OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, UM, I, I HAVE VIEWED MY ROLE AND STILL VIEW MY ROLE AS, AS ONE OF FACILITATION TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE TIME YOU NEED AND TO TRY TO IDENTIFY THE SOURCES OF MONEY YOU NEED TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU, AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE LOCAL CONSTITUENTS WANT. 
          THE ONLY REASON THAT I'VE, I'VE WEIGHED IN AT THIS POINT, ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES, IS THAT I HAVE BECOME EVEN MORE CONVINCED IN RECENT WEEKS THAT THE $120 MILLION, 
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UH, FROM THE SIB, IS DEFINITELY AT RISK TO A, TO AGREE THAT I DID NOT ANTICIPATE A FEW MONTHS AGO. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE HE'S IN THE POSITION NOW OF HAVING TO TURN DOWN OTHER REQUESTS. 
          LIKE HE TURNED DOWN CHARLESTON'S, HE, HE'S GONNA TURN DOWN OTHERS. 
          IT'S UNLIKELY, EVEN IF WE MAKE A PERSUASIVE CASE THAT HE'S GOING TO DO THAT. 
          I, THAT'S JUST MY, MY ESTIMATION. 
          SO I FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO, TO BRING THAT TO Y ALL'S ATTENTION. 
          SO ANYWAY, UM, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR DELAY IN, IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. 
          A LOT OF THINGS CAME TOGETHER TO LAST MINUTE. 
          UM, UM, MANY OF YOU MAY NOT HAVE EVEN SEEN THAT, THAT LETTER, SO I THINK I JUST SENT IT OUT BY 10 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING. 
          SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT, UM, I'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST, YOU KNOW, FEW, FEW WEEKS SETTING FORTH, SOMETHING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AS YOU DELIBERATE A PATH FORWARD. 
          RIGHT? SENATOR, THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE, AND WE ALL APPRECIATE, UM, PUTTING IT ON THE TABLE, THAT THAT MONEY IS, THE $200 MILLION IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE FOUND. 
          UM, AND THAT THE $120 MILLION TRULY IS AT RISK. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S IN ALL FAIRNESS, I MEAN, YOU GUYS, UM, YOU IN PARTICULAR, MAYOR AND ALEX AND THE OTHER MEMBERS THAT WERE ON THE COUNCIL SHOWED TREMENDOUS LEADERSHIP IN GETTING THIS THING DONE LAST JUNE. 
          WAS IT JUNE? YES. 
          UM, BUT THE RULES OF THE GAME HAVE CHANGED NOW WITH THE REFERENDUM FAILING AND THAT 90 MILLION NOT BEING IN HAND TO TRY TO MAKE A CREDIBLE ARGUMENT TO GET AN ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM THE SIB. 
          SO YOU'RE KIND OF BACKED INTO, TO A CORNER HERE. 
          UM, I WOULD, THE LAST THING I WANNA POINT OUT, UM, MAYOR PERRY, IS, IS THAT ONE OF THE AESTHETIC VIRTUES OF THIS SCALED DOWN APPROACH, IN MY OPINION, GIVEN THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD OVER THE MONTHS, IS THAT IT WOULD RESULT IN AN EASTBOUND SPAN OF THREE LANES AND THE EXISTING WET BOUND SPAN OF TWO LANES THAT WERE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT AND NOT ONE, 'CAUSE A LOT OF THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD IS IN REGARD TO THE MASS OF THE EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND BEING COMBINED BY BACKING INTO IT IN THIS WAY AND DOING IT INCREMENTALLY, YOU WOULD KEEP THOSE SPANS SEPARATE IN THAT SENSE OF MASS WOULD BE AVOIDED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN HOWARD? YES, SIR. 
          HELLO, MAYOR PERRY. 
          IT'S VERY NICE TO BE HERE. 
          THANK YOU SENATOR DAVIS FOR GIVING US THAT EXCELLENT THOUGHTS AND UPDATE IN, IN THE FRANK, FRANK FACTS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH TODAY. 
          AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY IT'S A WONDERFUL CROWD. 
          I'M GLAD THAT SO MANY, SO MANY OF OUR COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF ARE HERE TODAY TOO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UM, FOR, FOR COUNCIL, UM, I WANNA START OFF WITH, WITH A SIMPLE QUESTION, AND, AND I THINK THIS WILL HELP DRIVE THE REST OF THE MEETING A LITTLE BIT EASIER. 
          WHO ON COUNCIL, NOT OF A HEAD OR YAY OR NAY OR WHATEVER, IS INTERESTED IN GOING AFTER ADDITIONAL FUNDS? OKAY, SO Y'ALL SAW THAT, RIGHT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THERE, THERE, THERE'S A, THERE, THERE'S, UM, WELL BEFORE WE GO THERE, WHO HAS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT THEY LIKE TO MAKE? MR. COLLIN, MS. BECKER? SURE. 
          UM, SO GOING BACK TO YOUR, UM, MEMO. 
          SO SPECIFICALLY FOR SEAN OR ANYONE, UM, WELL, WE'LL STOP, SEAN, ANYONE? UM, I WANT TO, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS BECAUSE HERE WE ARE ON JANUARY, UM, NINTH, 2025, AFTER SEVEN YEARS OR SO OF DISCUSSING THIS PROJECT AND HAVING MANY DEBATES, MANY INFORMATION SESSIONS, AND ALWAYS KNOWING THAT THERE WAS NEVER GOING TO BE ENOUGH MONEY, BUT CONTINUING TO PRESS FORWARD ON A DREAM THAT MANY WERE TRYING TO PUT FORTH TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT ANY REASONABLE PERSON WOULD'VE KNOWN WAS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          I THINK I'VE SAID IT A FEW TIMES AND I'VE ARGUED THAT POINT AND I TRIED TO MAKE IT AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND HERE WE SIT TODAY, JANUARY 9TH WITH A NOW MARCH 31ST DEADLINE THAT IF YOU, WHEN YOU READ SENATOR DAVIS'S LETTER, YOU'LL, UM, CLEARLY KNOW IS, UM, A HARD DEADLINE IN HIS MIND, OR HE WOULDN'T HAVE PUT IT AND HE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD, UM, JEFF BRADLEY AND BILL HAR KIRSCHMAN SIGN ON TO IT AS WELL. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. 
          I PERSONALLY BELIEVE SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO 
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GET THROUGH THAT WORK. 
          UM, MUCH OF THAT WORK IS DESCRIBED HERE, AND I HOPE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH DISCUSSING ALL OF THAT. 
          'CAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT'S AHEAD OF US. 
          BUT TO YOUR MEMO, THERE'S A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT I WANNA MAKE REALLY, REALLY CLEAR ON THAT HASN'T BEEN MADE CLEAR. 
          AND I THINK SUNSHINE HERE IN BOTH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY HAS TO BE SPREAD, AND WE ALL HAVE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          MANY OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME, BASED ON WHEN THEY WERE WRITTEN AND THEN WHEN THE TOWN, THE COUNTY RECEIVED THEM, AND THEN WHEN THE TOWN RECEIVED THEM, THERE ARE TIME GAPS. 
          THERE'S LENGTHS OF TIME, UNNECESSARILY, LONG LENGTHS OF TIME. 
          AND THEN FURTHERMORE, THERE'S AN UNNECESSARY LENGTH OF TIME BETWEEN THE TOWN RECEIVED THEM AT ANY LEVEL. 
          AND WHEN THE TOWN COUNCIL WAS APPRISED OF THEM, THERE ARE MEETINGS THAT FALL INTO THAT SAME CATEGORY. 
          AND I WANNA CLEAR THE AIR ABOUT SOMETHING WITH REGARD TO A DECEMBER 6TH MEETING. 
          I PERSONALLY HAD HEARD RUMORS STARTING AS EARLY AS DECEMBER 4TH, BUT CERTAINLY BEFORE THAT, BECAUSE THE RUMORS WERE GENERATING BEFORE IT WAS BROUGHT TO ME AS TO WHAT DO I KNOW ABOUT A MEETING THAT WAS GOING TO BE HELD ON DECEMBER 6TH. 
          AND I KNEW NOTHING. 
          AND SO I PICKED UP THE PHONE AND I CALLED OUR TOWN MANAGER, WHO WAS THE MOST TRUSTWORTHY PERSON I KNOW OF RIGHT NOW WHO ANSWERED ME CLEARLY AND DECISIVELY WITH EXACTLY WHAT HE KNEW. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THAT, MARK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WHAT HE TOLD ME THAT INDEED AND IN THESE PHONE CALLS STARTED ON DECEMBER 5TH AT 3 36 WHEN I CALLED AND LEFT A MESSAGE, AND YOU PROMPTLY CALLED ME BACK AT 3 45. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND YOU LET ME KNOW THAT INDEED THERE WAS A MEETING THAT HAD BEEN CALLED AN INVITATION THAT HAD BEEN SENT FROM THE COUNTY TO THE TOWN FOR A MEETING ON DECEMBER 6TH, AND WHO WAS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT MEETING. 
          AND THEN PROMPTLY AFTER THAT, AT ABOUT 4 45, THERE WAS A MEMO THAT WAS SENT OUT TO ALL TOWN COUNCIL INFORMING US. 
          SO SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO SOME OF THE RUMORS YOU HEAR SO YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING. 
          SO FOR ANYBODY WHO THINKS THAT THE LAST MINUTE NOTICE OF 5 45 WAS SUFFICIENT NOTICE TO THIS TOWN COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO CLEAR THAT UP. 
          RIGHT NOW, IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT. 
          NOTICE, PLEASE, I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT. 
          I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL IN THIS ROOM, AND ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING ARE INFORMED ON THIS ISSUE WITH REGARD TO THE BRIDGE AND THE CORRIDOR THAT WE KNOW WITH FULL SUNSHINE EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING FROM THE STATE DOWN TO OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT HERE IN HILTON HECK. 
          AND EACH ONE OF US, THE SEVEN OF US SITTING AROUND THIS TABLE, WHO HAVE BEEN ELECTED BY THE RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD, NEED TO KNOW THAT WE ARE GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION. 
          AND THAT AFTER MEETINGS, WHEN THERE ARE PUBLIC JOINT COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE THAT DON'T REPRESENT THE SEVEN US OF US WHO EACH HAVE A SINGLE EQUALLY WEIGHTED VOTE, THAT COMMENT BY OUR TOWN MAYOR DOES NOT REPRESENT MY VISION OR MY VIEW OR MY REPRESENTATION TO THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE PROMISED MY BEST EFFORTS TO, TO REPRESENT THEM IN THIS TOWN. 
          AND I AM NOT PLEASED THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED. 
          SO IF I MIGHT, IF I MIGHT ADDRESS THIS. 
          NO, I'M FIN NOT FINISHED TALKING. 
          I GET 10 MINUTES. 
          MS. BECKER, I'M, I'M SORRY, DON'T GET THIS. 
          I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THIS BY OUR OWN ORDINANCES. 
          A TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS HAS A MINIMUM OF 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK. 
          KEEP ON, KEEP ON. 
          AND SO I'M GOING TO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          WHAT I WANNA MAKE CLEAR TO EVERYBODY IS THAT WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS INTO THIS TOWN, TO THE VERY BEST OF MY ABILITY, I WILL LET YOU KNOW THE FACTS. 
          I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, AND I WILL LET YOU DETERMINE HOW IT IS YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO ME SO THAT I CAN REPRESENT YOU PROPERLY AND TO YOUR WISHES AND TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. 
          AND I WILL NOT HIDE BEHIND ANY TYPE OF SECRET ME MEETINGS OR ANY DELAYED 
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COMMUNICATIONS OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT. 
          AND I DO NOT APPRECIATE WHEN I'M NOT LED INTO THAT LOOP. 
          AND I DO REQUEST HERE AND NOW AS I HAVE IN THE PAST TO BE APPRISED OF THINGS AS THEY ARE HAPPENING AND NOT BEING LEFT IN THE DARK. 
          SO, UM, AT THIS MOMENT, I WILL, UM, STOP SAYING WHAT I'M SAYING AND LET YOU HAVE YOUR MOMENT, MAYOR TO, UM, TO RESPOND TO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          PLEASE, PLEASE COME ON. 
          THIS IS NOT A POPULARITY CONTEST. 
          NO, BUT THIS IS A SUNSHINE, THIS IS, IT IS TRANSPARENCY AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US. 
          SO I'LL TELL YOU THAT. 
          UM, ON DECEMBER 5TH, I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM THE CURRENT CHAIR, JOE PASSMAN, ASKING ME TO ATTEND THE MEETING. 
          AND I MEAN, PREVIOUS, I'M SORRY, PREVIOUS CHAIR RELAX, PREVIOUS CHAIR JOE PASSMAN ASKING ME IF SENATOR DAVIS SHOULD ATTEND THE MEETING. 
          I WAS CURRENTLY IN A MEETING AT THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          I CALLED HIM BACK LATER AND SAID, ABSOLUTELY, SENATOR DAVIS NEEDS TO BE THERE. 
          WE NEED TO HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE THERE AS WE CAN AT A SHORT NOTICE, RIGHT? SO HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED. 
          WE HAD A MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT THE QUESTIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO. 
          AND IF I CANNOT GO HAVE A MEETING, AS YOUR MAYOR OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND THE TOWN MANAGER CANNOT GO HAVE A MEETING AS A TOWN MANAGER OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, WHAT GOOD ARE WE? WE NEED TO GO FIND OUT INFORMATION SO THAT WE COULD COME BACK AND SPEAK INTELLIGENTLY TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FACTS. 
          WE DID NOT KNOW WHERE THE COUNTY STOOD. 
          WE DID NOT KNOW WHERE THE STATE STOOD. 
          WE STILL HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          THERE WAS NOTHING SECRET. 
          THERE WAS NOTHING TRYING TO, TO DRIVE ANYTHING THROUGH OR RAM ANYTHING DOWN ANYBODY'S THROAT. 
          THIS WAS ABOUT FINDING INFORMATION SO THAT WE COULD COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU AS WE ARE DOING TODAY. 
          WHY DID YOU TAKE, I WAS INVITED TO THE MEETING. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M NOT SO UNDERSTAND. 
          I'LL ASK THE QUESTION. 
          UNDERSTAND, AND HERE'S THE QUESTION, ALAN, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE SAID. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT? NO, I, I DID NOT SELECT ANYBODY TO GO TO THIS MEETING. 
          I DID NOT SELECT ANYBODY. 
          I WAS ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT SENATOR DAVIS AND I SAID, YES. 
          WHEN WAS THE FIRST STATE NOTICE FOR THAT MEETING? YOU KNOW WHAT? I JUST WANNA KNOW WHEN THE FIRST STATE OF NOTICE WE ARE GONNA, WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO MOVE ON, IS APPROPRIATE, IS FORWARD. 
          THE ALL TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT MEETINGS ARE TAKING PLACE AND APPRISED OF INFORMATION. 
          I'LL GO ON WITH MY CONTINUED QUESTION. 
          AND EMAIL WAS SENT OUT AT FOUR 14 ON THAT FRIDAY, DECEMBER 5TH, AFTER MY PROMPTING THE PHONE CALL, THERE WAS A FOLLOW UP. 
          SO, SO AFTER MY PROMPTING THE PHONE CALL, I DO HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS TO, TO ASK, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW, UM, WHEN THAT MEETING WAS NOTICED BY THE COUNTY TO THE TOWN. 
          UM, I'D ALSO WOULD ASK WHY IT TOOK, UM, WEEKS AFTER, UM, FOR THE, I THINK IT WAS NOVEMBER 27TH WHEN THE TOWN RECEIVED THE RESPONSE FROM THE COUNTY ON THE MOA, UM, THAT HAD BEEN SENT TO THEM BACK IN JUNE 28TH BY THE TOWN. 
          UM, WHY IT TOOK US SO LONG TO GET THAT INFORMATION AS WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR HERE AND NOW THAT I EXPECT AS A MEMBER, EQUAL MEMBER WITH ONE VOTE, THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER MEMBER OF THIS TOWN COUNCIL, TO HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT I NEED SO I CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS. 
          NOT WHEN YOU DECIDE TO HAVE A TOWN HALL, BUT WHEN I DECIDE TO TALK OR MY CON CONSTITUENTS DECIDE TO TALK TO ME SO THAT I CAN BE UPFRONT, TRANSPARENT, AND HONEST WITH THEM. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT, BECAUSE IT BUILDS TRUST AND SINCERITY, AND I EXPECT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB WE HAVE HERE. 
          AND SO, UM, THOSE DATES ARE IMPORTANT TO ME, AND I'M ASKING FOR THEM FORMALLY NOW, WHEN THAT WAS NOTICED FROM THE COUNTY. 
          MOVING ON, UM, I DO HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE FUNDING, UM, FOR THE PROJECT. 
          NO, I DO NOT WANT US TO GO OUT AND THANK YOU SENATOR DAVIS FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS IN THE PAST. 
          AS I TOLD YOU ON JUNE 28TH, I THOUGHT IT WAS A HEAVY BURDEN FOR YOU TO HAVE TO CARRY TO LOOK FOR THAT MONEY. 
          AND I DID NOT THINK THAT MONEY WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE GOTTEN. 
          AND HERE WE ARE TODAY WITH ONLY, UM, A MONTH AND A HALF TO WRAP THIS UP, TO FIND A NEW DIRECTION THAT WE COULD HAVE BEEN WORKING NOW FOR MONTHS, IF NOT YEARS ON, AND HAD THE BRIDGE FINISHED IF AT THIS POINT. 
          SO, UM, THE FUNDING IS IMPORTANT TO ME IN TERMS OF WHERE, UM, IT WOULD LAND IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, CONSIDERING THAT THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OVERAGES, AS WE'VE SEEN FROM THE ORIGINAL, UM, UM, INFORMATION TO WHAT WE JUST RECEIVED IN SENATOR DAVIS'S LETTER, THE EVEN A THREE 
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LANE EASTBOUND TWO SEGMENT BRIDGE NOW HAS IS $257 MILLION, UM, RATHER THAN THE $2 MILLION. 
          SO WHERE WILL THE COUNTY COME UP WITH ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS, AS THE OVERAGES ARE CERTAINLY TO, TO BE MOVING FORWARD, UM, AND HIGHER AS, UM, TIME PASSES. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S ONE SPECIFIC, UH, QUESTION WITH REGARD TO FUNDING THAT I HAVE, UM, AND I WOULD LIKE ANSWERS TO AS WELL. 
          UM, I'M TRYING TO STICK WITH THE THINGS THAT SEAN HAS ON HIS MEMO SINCE THAT'S THE WAY YOU DIRECTED THE QUESTION TO BE ASKED. 
          UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S, UH, THE OTHER, THE OTHER POINT THAT I DO WANNA MAKE THAT, WHILE I DO THINK, AND I THINK I'VE SAID BEFORE, UM, THREE LANES COMING, ONE DIRECTION, ONE OF THOSE LANES IN MY MIND AND AS I'VE SUGGESTED, SHOULD BE A REVERSIBLE LANE BECAUSE IN FACT, THE TROUBLES THAT WE HAVE WITH REGARD TO TRAFFIC ARE NOT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR. 
          THEY ARE WITHIN ETER PARTICULAR TIMEFRAMES IN THE MORNING, IN THE AFTERNOON AS TRAFFIC AND, AND EMPLOYEES ARE COMING ONTO THE ISLAND AND THEN GOING HOME AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          SO THE THIRD LANE I'D LIKE TO SEE AS A REVERSIBLE LANE, IF A REVERSIBLE LANE ISN'T FEASIBLE OR CAN'T BE AGREED UPON, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT MARKED AS A, UH, BREAKDOWN LANE, BUT AT A MINIMUM WIDTH THAT COULD BE UTILIZED AS AN EMERGENCY EXIT LANE, SHOULD THERE BE A, UM, EVACUATION NEED FROM THE ISLAND TO THE MAINLAND. 
          UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, AT THIS MOMENT, I'M GONNA TURN OVER THE MICROPHONE TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          MR. ORLANDO, IF I, IF I COULD JUST BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AND MM-HMM . 
          MY NAME UP ON THE BOARD. 
          I WAS AT A 12 SIX MEETING. 
          MS. BECKER ASKED A QUESTION, AND I, AND I'LL SAY THIS, I I WAS JUST, JUST FOR SOME CLARITY, AND I THINK ALL OF TOWN COUNCIL CAN HEAR THIS AND UNDERSTAND IT, I WAS INVITED TO A MEETING ON 12 SIX BY COUNTY STAFF. 
          MR. FRA INVITED US, I ACCEPTED IT ON 12 FOUR AT 1258 FOR A MEETING ON 12 SIX AT 1215 STATUS OF FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. 
          AND IN MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT WAS TO TALK ABOUT THE LETTER FROM STATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE LETTER FROM DOT. 
          YOU KNOW, NOT UNLIKE A LOT OF MEETINGS I'VE ATTENDED, WHETHER IT'S COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOW UP OR NOT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S STORMWATER, WHETHER IT'S ROAD, WHETHER IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF, AT LEAST FOR, FROM, FROM MY TOWN COUNCIL, UM, AND, AND THE, AND THE PUBLIC WHO I, I GREATLY REGARD AND, AND RESPECT. 
          AND TO ANSWER MS. BECKER'S QUESTION, THAT THAT WAS MY ROLE, MY UNDERSTANDING OF A MEETING. 
          AND I, YOU KNOW, AS YOU TELL MANAGER, I, I GO TO A LOT OF THOSE MEETINGS, I UNDERSTAND THE SENSITIVITY OF IT. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S PART OF, UM, UNDERSTANDING IT, UNDERSTANDING EXPECTATIONS. 
          UM, I WILL ALSO SAY THAT I, I DID ASK SEAN TO LET COUNSEL KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO A MEETING, NOT UNLIKE A LOT OF MEETINGS I'VE ATTENDED IN MY 20 YEAR CAREER, AND THEN SOME, UM, AND THEN I ALSO FOLLOWED UP TO YOU ALL WITH A, A SUMMARY, UH, OF, OF THIS INFORMA OF THE INFORMATION SHARED AT THE MEETING AS SOON AS I COULD, UH, ON, ON MONDAY. 
          I, I PREPARED IT OVER THE WEEKEND AND NEEDED TO BREATHE ON IT TO MAKE SURE I, I GOT ALL THE DETAILS RIGHT FROM OUR RESIDENT EXPERT OVER HERE. 
          SO I JUST AT LEAST WANT TO, WITHOUT ANSWERING MS. BECKER'S QUESTION, WHICH I THINK PART OF THAT WAS TO ME, I'M NOT, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ELSE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE. 
          AS SOON AS I RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM THE COUNTY, AS I RECEIVE IT AND DIGEST IT, I ALWAYS FORWARD IT TO TOWN COUNCIL. 
          UM, AND SO WHEN I RECEIVE IT, I FORWARD IT TO YOU. 
          SO I, IF I NEED TO DIRECTION AND, AND I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT IS EXACTLY TRUE, I CAN GO THROUGH MY RECORDS AND AS I HAVE TO SEE THAT MARK, YOU DO TAKE WHATEVER YOU RECEIVE AND SEND FORWARD, AND IT'S IS, UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT, AND THANK YOU FOR THE FOLLOW UP THAT YOU HAD PROMISED TO PROVIDE. 
          IT WAS TIMELY, AND I APPRECIATE THE FOLLOWING CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU AND I HAVE HAD ABOUT THOSE MEETINGS, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS ON THAT. 
          I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN ALL WORK EQUALLY ON THIS COUNCIL AND BE APPRISED THE SAME WAY, UM, THROUGH OUR MAYOR. 
          MR. RE, UM, MR. MAYOR, THIS MEETING WAS CALLED TO DEAL WITH A NUMBER OF THINGS. 
          THE TOWN MANAGER CIRCULATED A MEMO INDICATING A NUMBER OF SUBJECTS THAT WOULD BE COVERED. 
          THEY RELATED TO THE MOU, THEY RELATED TO FUNDING, THEY RELATED TO THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. 
          UH, MORE RECENTLY WE'VE HAD THE PRESENTATION FROM SENATOR DAVIS. 
          WHAT ARE, ARE ARE YOU PLANNING TO PROCEED TO DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER THAT WE SHOULD BE FOLLOWING? UH, 
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I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, WE NEED TO HAVE, THIS IS A GENERAL CONVERSATION, RIGHT? WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY VOTES TODAY, BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S A POTENTIAL COMPROMISE? WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR US TO GET BACK TOGETHER? WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR US TO HAVE ADDITIONAL ANSWERS? UM, AND REALLY IT'S TO INFORM THE PUBLIC AS TO WHERE EVERYTHING STANDS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          BUT, BUT FROM US, YOU KNOW, PUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE TABLE, LET'S HAVE OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. 
          DO, DO YOU WANNA DEAL WITH THOSE THOUGHTS AND WITH RE MINSON AND SUBJECT MATTERS, HOW DO YOU WANNA DEAL WITH IT KNOW FUNDING? WE'VE ALREADY HAD A QUICK CONVERSATION ABOUT. 
          YES. 
          UM, SO I WOULD SAY, SAY THAT THE SCOPE IS WHAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT MS. TURNER. 
          YES. 
          SO, UM, MY QUESTIONS ARE REALLY REGARDING SENATOR DAVIS'S PROPOSAL, WHICH IS VERY INTRIGUING. 
          UM, AND I, AS WELL AS TAMMY HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FUNDING. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, COST FOR THE BRIDGE, UH, IT INDICATED THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY WOULD NEED TO COME UP WITH $53.3 MILLION, UH, TO COVER THE $257.7 MILLION COST OF THE BRIDGE. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT 40.8 MILLION BE CARRIED OVER TO FOCUS ON A MASTER PLAN, UH, THAT WOULD FOCUS ON THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD RELATED, UM, COMPONENTS, AS YOU INDICATED, UH, AN INCREASE IN SCOPE TO THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, WHERE WOULD WE GET THE FUNDING FOR THAT MONEY, WHICH TOTALS, UH, TO 94 MILLION. 
          IN ADDITION, I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING THE, UM, UNDERWATER PIPELINE, UH, FOR OUR DRINKING WATER. 
          UM, SO AS PART OF THE PROJECT SCOPE, AS THEY BUILD THE EASTBOUND LANES, THAT UNDERWATER PIPELINE NEEDS TO BE MOVED. 
          AND, UH, THERE IS A REIMBURSEMENT MODEL THAT THE STATE HAS WHERE FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE COST OF THE PROJECT AS ALLOCATED TO REIMBURSE, UH, THE PSDS TO MOVE, UH, THAT PIPELINE. 
          THAT PIPELINE IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AS IT PROVIDES 20 TO 25% OF OUR DRINKING WATER, AND IT AFFECTS TWO THIRDS OF THE ISLAND. 
          THE ISSUE IS WITH THE REDUCED SCOPE, THERE WON'T BE AS MUCH MONEY ALLOCATED FOR REIMBURSEMENT AT THE 4.5% LEVEL, AND THERE WILL BE A GAP IN FUNDING FOR THAT MOVE. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT GAP IS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE, UM, QUANTIFIED AS WELL AS CONSIDERED IN THE FUNDING. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE 257.7 MILLION OR IF THAT'S ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION TO FILL THAT GAP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE ON THAT? YEAH, I CAN, I CAN PROVIDE AN ANSWER TO, TO, TO THE QUESTIONS. 
          UM, AND I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK FROM, FOR SENATOR DAVIS AND WHAT HE'S PUT TOGETHER IN HIS LETTER, BUT THE CURRENT FUNDING, UM, IF YOU TAKE OUT THE TOWN, THE, THE DON DONATION OF THE TOWN LAND AND THE MONEY SPENT TO DATE AND ADD IN THE 16.1 MILLION THAT DOT IS NOW COMMITTED TO ADD INTO THE MIX, THERE'S CURRENTLY 298 MILLION. 
          AND, UM, AND KIM, IF YOU PUT THE, THIS LETTER UP, THE VERY LAST PAGE, UM, WOULD BE A BENEFIT. 
          SO THERE'S 298 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. 
          UM, THE $257 MILLION COST THAT WAS PROVIDED TO SENATOR DAVIS BY SECRETARY POWELL FOR THE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT WOULD, WOULD CONSUME ALL BUT 40, JUST OVER $40 MILLION. 
          SO THE, THE, THE BRIDGE COST IS ALL INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER. 
          THE BALANCE OF THE MONEY, THE 40.1 MILLION, UM, WOULD BE PROGRAMMED FOR THE WINDMILL HARBOR THROUGH THE CROSS ISLAND SECTION, UM, UNDER THAT PROPOSAL. 
          SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL MONEY, UM, THAT IS CONTEMPLATED. 
          AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW FINAL COST ESTIMATES AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT THE 2 98 HAS BEEN PARSED OUT 2 57 FOR THE, THE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT FOR THE THREE LANES ON THE EASTBOUND AND THEN THE 40 ISH MILLION FOR THE WINDMILL HARBOR THROUGH CROSS ISLAND PIECE. 
          BUT HOW IS THAT $94 MILLION FUNDED FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY? OH, SURE, YES, SIR. 
          TO THE MIC. 
          UM, COUNCILWOMAN, EVERY, EVERYTHING, EVERY NUMBER, EVERY DOLLAR, EVERY ALLOCATION THAT IS IN THAT LETTER I SUBMITTED IS, IS USING EXISTING IN-HAND FUNDS. 
          IT, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY INCREASED TAXES. 
          IT DOESN'T REQUIRE GETTING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM DOT, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE GETTING ADDITIONAL GRANT FROM THE SIB, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE GETTING A GRANT FROM THE, UH, FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION. 
          IT DEALS WITH DOLLARS THAT WE KNOW WE 
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HAVE IN HAND. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, UM, SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE'S A QUESTION OF, OF OF ADDITIONAL COSTS OR WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET ADDITIONAL MONIES, THIS PROPOSAL LOOKS AT A UNIVERSE OF MONEY THAT'S IN HAND. 
          AND, AND I THINK, SEAN, I MEAN, AND, AND, AND WHEN THE DOT BIDS OUT AN ESTIMATE FOR SOMETHING, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL ANCILLARY COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          AND, AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT WOULD, WOULD BE EMBEDDED IN THAT WOULD BE WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE WATER LINES TO THE PSD, WHATEVER. 
          I MEAN, I, I ASSUME THAT'S ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY DON'T JUST BID THE CONCRETE, THEY BID ALL THE ANCILLARY THINGS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING IT. 
          SO I I, I DO THINK IT'S ALL INCLUSIVE OF THAT. 
          IT'S A GOOD QUESTION THOUGH. 
           LEADS, UM, THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. SENATOR, FOR YOUR EFFORTS, UH, JUST TO, UH, TAKE COUNCILWOMAN THOMAS'S QUESTION, TAKE COUNCILWOMAN QUE QUESTION A BIT FURTHER. 
          UM, YOU NOW HAVE, UH, ESTIMATES FROM S-E-D-O-T BASED ON THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT, AND I THINK WE HAVE SORT OF A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING HERE TODAY AS TO WHAT THE BRIDGE IS GOING TO COST. 
          BUT ONCE WE GET ON THE MAINLAND, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A PROPOSAL TO DO SOME MASTER PLANNING, BUT OF THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE, HOW, HOW IS THAT 40 MILLION LOOK AGAINST WHAT S-E-D-L-T HAS SHARED WITH YOU AS FAR AS ESTIMATED COST FOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN MAINLAND TO SPANISH WELLS? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AS WELL. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN BROWN. 
          UM, IN REGARD, I I CAN BREAK DOWN THE DOLLARS AVAILABLE FOR WINDMILL HARBOR ACROSS ALLEN PARKWAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW PRECISELY AND EXACTLY WHAT THAT MASTER PLAN WOULD CONTEMPLATE. 
          I MEAN, THERE, THERE ARE VARIOUS THINGS AND VARIOUS IDEAS. 
          I KNOW THE, THE TOWN ALSO HAD A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT THAT, UM, THAT, UM, MS. BRYSON HELPED PUT TOGETHER. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA BE A PART OF IT. 
          I MEAN, SO A LOT OF VARIABLES THERE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PINNED DOWN BEFORE YOU CAN MONETIZE OR ESTIMATE THE COST OF THAT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE MORE OR LESS THAN THE $40 MILLION. 
          UM, BUT, BUT, BUT ONE OF THE VIRTUES OF THIS, AND I GUESS I SHOULD POINT OUT IS, UM, IN, IN TERMS OF THE TIME WE HAVE LEFT TWO AND A HALF MONTHS TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING, I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO NARROW THE FOCUS TO, TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND HAVE A, A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT PIECE OF IT. 
          BECAUSE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS FOR A LONG TIME, AND I'M NOT TRULY CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT'S CONTEMPLATED, UH, IN, IN THAT, IN THAT SEGMENT. 
          UM, I DO SAY IN THE LETTER THAT IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR, IN MY OPINION AND THE OPINION OF MY COLLEAGUES TO COME UP WITH THAT MASTER PLAN BY MARCH 31ST FOR THIS REASON. 
          UM, THERE MAY WELL BE SOMETHING IN THAT MASTER PLAN THAT IMPACTS THE ENTRY OF THE EASTBOUND COMING INTO WINDMILL HARBOR, OR IT MAY IMPACT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE EXITING THE ISLAND WESTBOUND. 
          SO IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THOSE THINGS NAILED DOWN SO THAT WHEN THE DOT GOES TO DO ITS ENGINEERING DRAWINGS AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY SENDS IT OUT TO BID, THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH, WITH WHAT THE TOWN CONTEMPLATES FOR THE MASTER PLAN. 
          THAT, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I SAY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET IT DONE CONTEMPORANEOUS WITH, WITH, WITH THE OTHER PIECE. 
          UH, AUSTIN IS STILL THERE. 
          UH, YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT, UM, IF WE WERE TO, UH, GO WITH Y'ALL'S PROPOSAL THAT THE, IN A GOVERNMENTAL, PLEASE, THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WILL HAVE TO BE REVISED, AND THE CURRENT AGREEMENT IS WITH THE STATE, COUNTY AND TOWN. 
          AM I CORRECT IN THAT? THE, YEAH, THE, THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT THAT I'M REFERRING TO IS THE ONE THAT IS AN ASSOCIATED WITH THE $120 MILLION STEP GRANT. 
          AND, AND IT DEFINES THE PROJECT AS BEING FROM MOSS CREEK DRIVE TO SPANISH WELLS DRIVE, AND, AND, AND INVOLVES NEW EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND SPANS. 
          THE INTERGOVERNMENT AGREEMENT WOULD'VE TO BE MODIFIED OR AMENDED BECAUSE IF, IF THIS APPROACH WERE FOLLOWED, YOU'RE NARROWING THE SCOPE, YOU'RE SCALING IT, YOU'RE SCALING IT BACK. 
          UM, FRANKLY, THE, THE, THE BIGGEST HURDLE, AND ONE THAT I THINK CAN BE OVERCOME IS CONVINCING THE S CIB THAT THE, THE COUNTY $80 MILLION OR HOWEVER, HOWEVER MUCH IT IS NOW, 92 IS STILL A SATISFACTORY MATCHING GRANT, EVEN THOUGH THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT HAS BEEN SCALED DOWN. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, IF, IF THEY WANTED TO BE TECHNICAL ABOUT IT, THEY COULD SAY, WELL, WE GAVE YOU THE $120 MILLION BASED ON THE WHOLE PROJECT BEING DONE, BUT NOW THAT YOU'RE ONLY DOING ROUGHLY HALF OF IT, WE'RE GONNA SCALE DOWN THE GRANT. 
          UM, I THINK WE CAN AVOID THAT, QUITE FRANKLY. 
          I I, I THINK THAT THE SIBS MAIN CONCERN TALKING TO JOHN WHITE IS, UM, THEY DON'T WANNA HAVE TO ALLOCATE ANY MORE MONEY THAT THAT'S THEIR PRESSURE POINT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE QUEUED UP. 
          AND, AND SO I, I I, I CAN'T GUARANTEE ANYTHING, BUT I FEEL, I FEEL GOOD ABOUT OUR CHANCES OF KEEPING THE $120 MILLION EVEN IN REGARD TO THIS SCALE BACK SCOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. MAYOR, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE GOOD SENATOR. 
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UM, WHILE I'VE GOT THE, THE FLOOR, UM, I GUESS THIS QUESTION WOULD BE FOR CHAIRWOMAN HOWARD. 
          UM, GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, AND GLAD TO SEE OUR OTHER COLLEAGUES IN ATTENDANCE TODAY, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALWAYS VIEWED THIS AS A JOINT VENTURE. 
          UM, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION, MY ULTIMATE QUESTION, UM, IS THE CURRENT MOU THAT THE COUNTY APPROVED BACK IN 2024 WAS SENT OVER TO THE COUNTY. 
          WE'VE GOT A COPY OF THAT THAT HAS BEEN, UH, REDLINED TO SPEAK SORT OF LOOSELY HERE. 
          UM, I'M WONDERING WAS, WAS THAT A ACTION OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY COUNCIL TO REDLINE THAT AND SEND THAT BACK TO US, OR WAS THAT JUST A STAFF RECOMMENDATION? I, I DO, I DO NOT KNOW. 
          I'M GONNA, I'M LOOKING AT JARED AND MIKE MOORE TO SEE IF THEY KNOW, WAS IT STAFF? IT WAS STAFF. 
          OKAY. 
          I I KNEW IT DID NOT COME IN FRONT OF ENTIRE COUNCIL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE POINT THAT I'M MAKING HERE, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVING THIS MEETING, UH, I THINK MOVING FORWARD, IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY GET TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING, LEGAL UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD JOINTLY. 
          I THINK WE HAVE IN THE PAST PUT OUR DELEGATION IN A VERY, UH, PECULIAR SITUATION GOING TO BAT FOR US, AND WE DON'T ALWAYS SEEM AS IF WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE, TOWN AND COUNTY. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE GOT TO GET DONE IN VERY SHORT ORDER IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE GOOD ON THIS MARCH 31ST DEADLINE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO TO ME, MR. MAYOR, AND, UH, MR. ORLANDO, ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THE OUTCOME OF TODAY'S MEETING IS HOW DO WE MOVE TOGETHER, JOIN AT THE HIP TO GET TO A BETTER PLACE WITH THIS PROJECT? AND, UH, MIKE MOORE HAS TALKED TO US ALREADY ABOUT HAVING A WORKSHOP FOR ALL OF COUNTY COUNCIL. 
          NOT ALL OF US ARE HERE TODAY TO, TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP SO THAT WE WILL WORK TOGETHER QUICKLY. 
          THAT'S MY GOAL TOO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE AN IDEA WHEN THAT MIGHT BE HELD? WE'RE PLANNING ON THE 20. 
          WE ARE, WE ARE PLANNING ON THE 21ST OF JANUARY, AND THAT SOON AS WE GET THE INFORMATION FROM THE DT WE'LL, WE'LL ALL BE OUT IF WE GET THE INFORMATION FROM DOT. 
          YEP. 
          MR. MAYOR, I JUST SO THAT WE SORT OF STAY ON TRACK HERE, I WOULD, UH, SUGGEST THAT TOWN AND COUNTY WORK TOGETHER TO PRESENT A POTENTIAL TIMELINE WITH MILESTONES SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN WE ARE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH CERTAIN THINGS BEFORE THIS DATE. 
          UH, THAT KEEPS US ALL ON TRACK. 
          YES. 
          IF WE HAVE TO HAVE SPECIAL MEETINGS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, UH, THAT WE AGREE TODAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. 
          UH, YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT TOWARD THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, UH, SENATOR DAVIS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          UH, SO WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR MEETING THAT YOU HAD, OR YOUR DISCUSSIONS YOU'VE HAD WITH POWELL AND WHITE, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT IN THE $257 MILLION, DO YOU HAVE A WESTBOUND RAMP IN? WE DECIDE TO ELIMINATE THE LIGHT AT WINDMILL HARBOR THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATED IN, IN THE NUMBER THEY GAVE. 
          UM, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, THE MASTER PLAN CONTEMPLATES, UM, WHICH IS WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THAT MASTER PLAN ACTIVITY TO OCCUR ALONG THE SAME TIMELINE AS THE SCALED DOWN BRIDGE APPROACH, BECAUSE IT MAY IMPACT THAT BRIDGE APPROACH. 
          IT MAY IMPACT, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF IT. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, BUT NO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, IT CURRENTLY DOES NOT ADDRESS ANY OF THE WESTBOUND SPAN. 
          UM, WHEN THE NUMBERS ARE BEING PUT TOGETHER, IS THERE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN ADDENDUM TO, OR AN OPTION OF A RAMP ON A WESTBOUND LANE TO SEE AND SEE WHAT IT DOES TO AFFECT THE COST? YEAH, I THINK THE SEQUENCE WOULD BE ONCE A MASTER PLAN IS AGREED TO, IF IT INVOLVES SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU, WE WOULD THEN GO TO, OR YOU WOULD THEN GO TO THE DOT AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT IMPACT DOES THIS HAVE ON THE $257 MILLION ESTIMATE? AND, AND CAN YOU INCORPORATE IT INTO YOUR, INTO YOUR PLANS? AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHY I THINK HAVING A MASTER PLAN DONE BY MARCH 31ST IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF WHAT YOU ALL DECIDE IS GONNA IMPACT THAT SPAN, UH, BOTH THE EASTBOUND AND, AND, AND THE WESTBOUND. 
          AND, AND TO MR. BROWN'S POINT EARLIER ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN, IT IS A COUNTY, THIS IS A COUNTY SPONSOR PROJECT. 
          IT WAS A COUNTY REFERENDUM THAT, THAT RAISED THE MONEY IN 2018. 
          I DO PUT FORTH IN THIS LETTER THAT, IN REGARD TO THE COMPONENT FROM WINDMILL HARBOR TO CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY, THAT DEFERENCE BE GIVEN TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF IT, THE ON ISLAND PIECE OF IT, INVOLVES ISLAND SPECIFIC QUALITY 
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OF LIFE ISSUES. 
          AND SO THERE HAS TO BE A CONCURRENCE BY, BY THE TWO ENTITIES. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I THINK FOR PURPOSES OF, OF DEVELOPING SOMETHING, UM, I WOULD, I I IT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT SUBSTANTIAL DEFERENCE BE GIVEN TO THE TOWN BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONES DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE ON ISLAND PORTION OF IT. 
          WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF IT, BECAUSE I'LL LET YOU IN, I'LL LET YOU IN. 
          THERE ARE DIFFERENT, UH, I MEAN, THERE'S DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION GROUPS THAT TAKE CARE OF THESE TWO DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE NOW SEPARATED. 
          AND A BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION GROUP WOULD BE DOING AN UNBOUND RAMP FOR, FOR THE WESTBOUND LANE. 
          SO IF, IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THE TOWN DECIDES THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE CORRIDOR, CORRIDOR WITHOUT LIGHTS, THEN WE'RE GONNA BE LEFT WITH A LIGHT SITTING AT WINDMILL HARBOR. 
          SO IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED UP FRONT. 
          AND, AND, AND I THINK IF THE MASTER PLAN ENDS UP BEING LIKE THAT, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WOULD IMPACT WHAT THE DOT IS, IS, IS PLANNING. 
          UM, I I WOULD SAY THIS TOO FOR, I MEAN, UM, SECRETARY POWELL INDICATED THAT, UM, HOW THEY WOULD BID THIS PROPOSAL HAS SHIFTED INITIALLY, THEY WERE GOING TO, UM, COME UP WITH A DESIGN AND THEN SUBMIT AN RFP. 
          THEY'RE MOVING TOWARD HAVING IT BE A DESIGN BUILD, UM, SO THAT RESPONDING, UH, PARTIES COULD, COULD SET FORTH IDEAS WITHIN ESTABLISHED PARAMETERS IN THE, IN THE RFP. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THEY'RE THINKING ALONG DESIGN BUILD. 
          NOW, YOU KNOW, IN ALL DUE RESPECT, STEVE, UM, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S TWO THINGS WE'VE GOTTA FOCUS ON. 
          FIRST AND FOREMOST IS WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT THE EASTBOUND BRIDGE, RIGHT? WHAT IS OUR DESIRE? WHAT ARE OUR GOALS? THAT'S, THAT IS NUMBER ONE. 
          HOW DO WE CREATE SAFE ACCESS TO HILTON HEAD THAT PROVIDES US WITH FLOW AND, AND REALLY PROTECTS OUR ECONOMY AS WELL? AND LISTEN, I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT YOU CAN'T LEAVE THAT ELEMENT OUT. 
          I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING TO LEAVE IT OUT, BUT I'M SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, I, I THINK WE'VE GOTTA REALLY KIND OF HUNKER DOWN ON THAT EASTBOUND, EASTBOUND SIDE, CONTINUE TO WORK ON WHAT'S, WHAT'S THROUGH THE CORRIDOR ASPECT. 
          UM, BECAUSE THIS, THAT BRIDGE IS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. 
          WE KNOW THAT IT COULD BE LOAD POSTED, AND IF IT'S LOAD POSTED AND YOU CAN'T HAVE SCHOOL BUSES GOING ACROSS IT AND YOU CANNOT HAVE EMERGENCY VEHICLES GOING ACROSS, THEN IT'S A REAL PROBLEM. 
          BUT I THINK WHAT YOU FAILED TO ACKNOWLEDGE IS WHAT STEVE IS SAYING. 
          I'M NOT, I'M NOT FAILING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AT ALL. 
          IF STEVE IS SAYING, MAY I FINISH MY SENTENCE, SO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA SAY FIRST, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          AND WHAT STEVE IS SAYING IN THAT, WHAT I BELIEVE SENATOR DAVIS HAS BROUGHT FORTH AS A POINT THAT WE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO CLOSELY IS THAT THE TIMEFRAME NOW IS MARCH 31ST, 2025. 
          AND THAT HIS THOUGHTS, IF YOU READ THE LETTER, INDICATE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES WHAT STEVE IS BRINGING YES. 
          TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          AND SO WHILE WE WANNA FOCUS ON THE BRIDGE, WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT LOAD WEIGHTING AND, AND THAT CONCERN IS GOING TO COMPLICATE THINGS IF IT'S NOT DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER, LIKE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE CAN'T GET TO WHERE SENATOR DAVIS' BROUGHT US TO UNDERSTAND IS IMPORTANT UNLESS WE CONSIDER A MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS A LOT OF THE DETAILS THAT STEVE IS TRYING TO BRING FORWARD. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING. 
          AND MY CONCERN HERE TODAY IS THAT BACK TO THE POINT THAT THE MOA THAT WAS SENT FROM THE TOWN IN JUNE TO THE COUNTY WAS NEVER REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY COUNCIL. 
          AND THAT STAFF SENT BACK A-M-O-A-A SINGLE MOA, THAT THEY SPLIT INTO TWO SEPARATE MOAS, ONE OF WHICH DEALS WITH THE CORRIDOR AND STONY, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY COMPLETELY REDLINED. 
          IT'S HARD TO FIND ANYTHING THAT WAS ORIGINAL WITHIN THAT PIECE OF THE DOCUMENT. 
          AND THAT THE PIECE THAT PERTAINS TO THE BRIDGE HAS ALSO SIMILARLY BEEN ALTERED. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN EVEN CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THAT THOSE TWO DOCUMENTS ARE, ARE ONES THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL THEMSELVES WOULD APPROVE WITHOUT THEM HAVING FIRST SEEN IT. 
          AND IF THEY'RE NOT MEETING NEXT UNTIL JUNE OR JANUARY 21ST, AND I AM ASSUMING THAT THEY'LL GET A CHANCE TO DISCUSS WHAT THEIR STAFF MEMBERS DID THEN, AND THEN LET US KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY APPROVE IT OR WHAT CHANGES THEY MAY MAKE. 
          WE'RE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THAT MARCH 31ST DEADLINE WITH ALL DUE. 
          SO HERE, SO HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE FOR ME ON THAT. 
          ON PAGE FIVE OF THE ORIGINAL MOU THAT WE SENT OVER IN JUNE TO THE COUNTY, THERE IS A EZ THAT SAYS A CONDITIONED PRECEDENT FOR THE TOWN TO GRANT MUNICIPAL CONSENT FOR THE PROJECT. 
          THE TOWN AND COUNTY HEREBY AGREE AND ENTER INTO THIS 
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MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH THE EXPRESS KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDINGS THAT THE INCORPORATION AND COMPLETION OF THESE TERMS WILL BE A CONDITION OF THE TOWN'S MUNICIPAL CONSENT FOR THE PROJECT. 
          AND SO, THEREFORE, GIVEN WHAT THE STAFF HAS DONE AND THE TIME LAG THAT HAS HAPPENED, I HAVE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS, AND I FEEL CONFIDENT IN SAYING IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE A VALID MUNICIPAL CONSENT, UM, HAVING BEEN PROVIDED. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE STARTING LITERALLY FROM SQUARE ONE. 
          MUNICIPAL CONSENT IS NOT VALID. 
          WE DON'T HAVE AN MOA THAT IS VIABLE AT THIS POINT. 
          WE HAVE A TIMEFRAME THAT IS COMING UP CLOSE ON US, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          AND WHEN YOU DISCOUNT THE IDEAS AND THE CONCERNS AND THE, THE COSTS OF THINGS LIKE MY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, COLLEAGUE STEVE DESIMONE HAS JUST MENTIONED, IT PUTS US EVEN FURTHER BEHIND. 
          I'M, I'M NOT DISCOUNTING IT, I'M NOT SAYING TO PUT IT OFF. 
          I'M SAYING THAT TODAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE BRIDGE AND, AND WHAT'S FIRST AND FOREMOST AT HAND, NOT IN MARCH 31ST IS AROUND THE CORNER. 
          I'M NOT, LET ME FINISH, PLEASE. 
          I AM NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA DELAY THE DISCUSSION ON THE, THE MASTER PLANNING OF THE CORRIDOR. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, ANOTHER WORKSHOP ON THE CALENDAR FOR JANUARY 29TH. 
          WE HAVE NOT DECIDED IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MEETING THEN OR NOT, BUT I'M TELLING WHO HAS A, WHEN'S JANUARY 29TH? WE'RE, WE'RE THERE, THERE'S ONE THAT'S ON THE SCHEDULE, WHICH WE'RE DISCUSSING NEXT TUESDAY. 
          OH, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT. 
          IT'S, IT'S IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE. 
          I WAS ONLY INQUIRING IF IT WAS INVOLVED IN THE 207 MILLION. 
          BUT I, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE NEED TO DISREGARD WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, STEVE AND, AND PUSH IT DOWN THE ROAD, BUT I'M JUST SAYING UNDERSTAND THAT TODAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA COME UP WITH OUR SCOPE ON THE, ON THE BRIDGE ASPECT. 
          MR. MR. ALFRED. 
          I DISAGREE. 
          I THINK WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THERE ARE THREE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH, UH, FUNDING AS TO WHICH THERE IS NO APPARENT SENTIMENT TO PURSUE THAT ANY FURTHER. 
          NEXT IS THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, AND LAST IS THE MOU IN TERMS OF, OF DEALING WITH THOSE. 
          UH, I WANNA THANK AGAIN, UH, SENATOR DAVIS FOR SPENDING HIS CHRISTMAS VACATION COMING UP WITH ALL THESE PLANS. 
          UH, I THINK THEY ARE, UH, IT'S AN OUTSTANDING EXAMINATION AND SET OF PROPOSALS, UH, WITH WHICH I HEARTILY CONCUR AND VERY LIKELY TO BE THE BEST APPROACH THAT WE CAN HAVE UNDER THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          UH, AND THE INDICATIONS FROM THAT ARE LET'S FIGURE OUT A SO-CALLED MASTER PLAN. 
          SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ORLANDO, UH, IS HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO HOW WE PROCEED TO DEAL WITH THE SO-CALLED MASTER PLAN? NOW THAT YOU PUT ME ON THE SPOT, I BETTER, UM, , WE, WE HAVE TO A DEGREE, HAVE SPENT THE LAST FOUR YEARS, RIGHT? AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          AND I, AND KEEP IN MIND WHEN I TEE THIS UP TODAY, I SAID SENSE OF PLACE IS ONE OF THOSE COMPONENTS. 
          A LOT OF OUR WORK THAT WE'VE WORKED ON THUS FAR HAD MASTER PLAN COMPONENTS TO IT. 
          AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS A STREET SCAPE A CORRIDOR, AND ALL OF IT IS MOVING FOLKS TO AND FROM OUR AMAZING ISLAND AS WELL AS PROVIDING, UH, A, A ROADWAY, A BOULEVARD IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S HOMES AND BUSINESSES. 
          SO IF, IF WE THINK BACK A LITTLE BIT, IT'S A BUNCH OF MONTHS AGO, THERE WERE MANY ILLUSTRATIONS, MASTER PLANS, SIDEWALK WIDTHS, A LOT OF THAT WORK IS DONE. 
          A, A MATTER OF AMENDING IT, A MATTER OF AMENDING IT TO FIT THE BUDGET RATHER THAN DREAM BIG AND LOOK FOR MONEY IS WOULD BE OUR EXERCISE. 
          I'M CONFIDENT THAT I COULD WORK WITH MR. MOORE AND, AND SEAN AND, AND JARED TO, I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, CALIBRATE SCALE BACK THAT MASTER PLAN AND, AND BRING SOMETHING THAT'S PALATABLE. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DECISIONS TO MAKE SIGNALS OR NO SIGNALS, UM, BY THE SOUNDS OF IT, BY THE SOUNDS OF IT, UM, MY NOTES, $258 MILLION FOR A BRIDGE, 40 OR SO MILLION DOLLARS THROUGH STONY, THAT $40 MILLION NEEDS TO BE MASTER PLAN. 
          BUT TO MR. DEON'S, GOOD POINT. 
          IF WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE FLOW AND POTENTIALLY REMOVE THE SIGNAL AT WINDMILL HARBOR, THOSE THAT, THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL COST OF RAMP OUT OF WINDMILL HARBOR ON AND OFF THE BRIDGE WOULD, WOULD COME OUT OF THE 40. 
          NOT BE FOUND SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          I, I STARTED TO SAY THAT WE ARE WAITING, AND I I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET IN ANY DAY. 
          I HAD A LITTLE SIDEBAR WITH SENATOR DAVIS RIGHT HERE. 
          I I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE AT LEAST COST COMPONENT BREAKDOWNS, UM, FROM SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO START UNDERSTANDING SOME COSTS, RIGHT? SO HOW MUCH IS AN INTERSECTION? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE $40 MILLION? SO 
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I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE MASTER PLAN. 
          WE'RE GONNA JUST HAVE TO SCALE BACK FROM THE WORK WE'VE ALREADY DONE. 
          WE'RE GONNA WORK CLOSELY WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH DOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR STREET. 
          I I, I DO WANNA POINT SOMETHING OUT, AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. 
          UM, MS. HUNTER ASKED A A GOOD QUESTION THAT I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR AWAY FROM. 
          WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET, RIGHT? WE SEE UP THERE, THAT'S SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION INFUSED MONEY IN THE PROJECT. 
          THAT'S THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK 120. 
          THAT, THAT WE'RE CONFIDENT WILL REMAIN IF WE, IF WE MAKE DECISIONS IN A TIMELY MANNER. 
          THE BEAUFORT COUNTY, 101 MILLION COMES FROM $80 MILLION FROM THE 2018 REFERENDUM. 
          SO THAT'S FULLY FUNDED. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S INTEREST ON THAT OR NOT, BUT WE'LL AGAIN, LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND THEN BASED ON INFORMATION WE RECEIVED FROM BUFORT COUNTY, 21 MILLION OF THAT ALSO IS FUNDED THROUGH BEAUFORT COUNTY ROAD IMPACT FEES. 
          AND SO THOSE FUNDS ARE THERE THAT, THAT EQUAL THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU SEE THE RESIDUAL SOME MONEY IN LAST. 
          SO MS. TONER, MAYOR, COUNSEL, I BELIEVE THOSE, THOSE DOLLARS ARE AT HAND. 
          I SEE MR. MOORE NODDING HIS HEAD NOT TO CALL HIM UP AND ASK HIM TO SAY THAT, BUT MR. MOORE, FOR CLARITY IS NODDING HIS HEAD THAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE THERE, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE FROM. 
          AND SO I THINK OUR POINT WITH Y'ALL IS IF YOU SELECT, OR AT LEAST ARE MOVING IN THE DIRECTION OF WHAT SENATOR DAVIS HAS PROPOSED OF A THREE LANE EASTBOUND BRIDGE, 250 OR SO MILLION DOLLARS AND A $40 MILLION RESIDUAL AMOUNT TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CORRIDOR AND SENSE OF PLACE AND SAFETY AND ALL THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO THROUGH STONY, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THERE. 
          YES, SEAN AND I CAN MOBILIZE AND PREPARE FOR YOU THIS CRITICAL PATH, TIMELINE, MILESTONES, AS WELL AS QUESTIONS FROM UPCOMING WORKSHOP. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SENATOR DAVIS HAS, HAS, HAS DONE A, A GREAT JOB, RIGHT? HE'S GOTTEN, HE'S GOTTEN SUPPORT FROM HIS, HIS OTHER CONSTITUENTS, UM, HIS OTHER PARTNERS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION. 
          WHO, WHO LIKES WHAT SENATOR DAVIS HAS PROPOSED? WELL, I CLEARLY LIKE IT, AS I'VE JUST SAID. 
          YOU DID, YOU DID. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS, THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPROMISE, RIGHT? THERE'S, WE GAVE MUNICIPAL CONSENT IN JUNE, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPROMISE. 
          WE KNOW WHAT THE DOLLARS ARE, RIGHT? WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT BACK IN JUNE. 
          WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T, AS MS. BECKER SAID, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, SO GO AHEAD MS. BRYSON. 
          I, I WAS WONDERING IF I WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO WEIGH AND I APOLOGIZE, I'VE GOT A BAD COLD. 
          SO, UM, UM, ANYHOW, IF YOU SEE ME LEAVE AND, AND COME AND GO, I APOLOGIZE. 
          CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME IN THE BACK WITH MY HORSE VOICE? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          A LITTLE BIT LOUDER. 
          OKAY. 
          IN FRONT OF YOUR, AND BEFORE THEY BOOST ME OVER THERE, I, I DON'T WANT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          CLOSER. 
          IT WORKS. 
          YEP. 
          BETTER. 
          HOW'S THAT? MUCH BETTER, THANK. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU. 
          UM, MR. ORLANDO, I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT, UM, I KNEW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COUNTY MONEY FROM AN OLD CHART THAT I'VE GOT HERE ABOUT THE IMPACT FEE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT, UH, BOOSTED IT FROM 80 MILLION UP TO 94 MILLION. 
          AND, AND BEFORE THAT IT WAS 1 0 1 MINUS WHAT'S BEEN SPENT ALREADY. 
          SO GOOD. 
          I'M GLAD WE GOT THAT CLARIFIED. 
          UM, AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR, UM, THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO GET SOME CALL ASSESSMENTS PRETTY SOON. 
          UM, SINCE WE HAVE, UM, ON OUR AGENDA FOR NEXT TUESDAY, THE CONSIDERATION OF WORKSHOP SCHEDULE FOR THE YEAR, IF WE'VE GOT SOMETHING LINED UP FOR, UM, THAT LAST, UH, WEEK OF JANUARY, THEN I WOULD SUPPORT US GOING AHEAD AND DOING THAT AND NOTIFYING THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP ON THIS MATTER THAT EARLY, BECAUSE HOPEFULLY BY THEN WE'LL HAVE COST ESTIMATES FROM S-E-D-O-T. 
          UM, AND I JOINED MY COLLEAGUES IN THANKING SENATOR DAVIS FOR HIS WORK, UM, ON THIS PROJECT. 
          UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD FOR MR. COLIN AND PERHAPS, UH, SENATOR DAVIS KNOWS THIS IS IN, IN THE LIST OF COST ESTIMATES. 
          UM, AND, AND IN MR. COLLINS, UM, UH, UH, STAFF REPORT, UM, THE ELEMENTS INCLUDE, UH, THE COST ESTIMATES INCLUDE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT, MULTIPURPOSE PATHWAY, ROADWAY ADJUSTMENTS ON JENKINS ISLAND AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STONY COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND, AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO SEE IF THERE IS SUCH A LIST OF EXACTLY THE COST TESTAMENTS, WHICH WE'RE ASKED FOR, BECAUSE IT COULD BE THAT THERE'S SOME THAT WE EITHER DON'T WANT OR THAT WE WANNA ADD TO THE LIST. 
          AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THAT BEFORE WE MEET AGAIN, SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT WHATEVER FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT QUARTER. 
          WE KNOW, UM, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, AND THEN WHAT KIND OF COST BASED UPON WHAT WE PICK AND CHOOSE FROM, UM, THE PLANS THAT WE'VE ALREADY, UM, AGREED TO. 
          AND, AND I AGREE WITH MR. ORLANDO ON THAT APPROACH BECAUSE WE HAVE WORKED HARD AND INCLUDED WITHIN THE MOA WE SENT TO THE COUNTY ARE THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE WANT 
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TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT CORRIDOR. 
          UM, AND SO IN ORDER TO SAY, YES, WE WANT ALL THESE, WE NEED TO KNOW IF ALL THESE IS 40 MILLION, LESS THAN 40 MILLION, OR MORE THAN 40 MILLION. 
          UM, AND THE LAST THING I'D ASK ABOUT THE COST ESTIMATES IS THAT IN, IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE APPROVED, UH, THE END OF JUNE, UM, THERE IS A PROVISO, UM, ABOUT THE ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECT. 
          AND IT SAYS, PROVIDED HOWEVER, THAT THESE DESIGN ELEMENTS WILL CONTINUE TO BE EVALUATED WITH A SPECIFIC GOAL OF REDUCING TO THE EXTENT, OH, SORRY, TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT THAT IS POSSIBLE, THE WIDTH OF THESE VARIOUS ELEMENTS, THEREBY REDUCING THE OVERALL WIDTH OF THE BRIDGE, WHICH WILL SERVE TO REDUCE THE VISUAL IMPACTS OF THE BRIDGE AND IN REDUCING THE FUNDING GAP THAT IS CURRENTLY PRESENT. 
          SO WE KNEW AT THAT TIME THAT WE WERE GONNA NEED TO REDUCE THIS. 
          AND SO THAT LEADS ME TO, UM, SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALWAYS ASKED ABOUT, AND THAT IS, UM, THE THREE LANE BRIDGE, THE EASTBOUND BRIDGE, IS THAT THREE TRAVEL LANES PLUS A BREAKDOWN LANE, OR IS THAT A TOTAL OF THREE LANES, WHICH WOULD BE TWO TRAVEL PLUS A BREAKDOWN LANE AT THE TIME? BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THREE TRAVEL LANES PLUS A BREAKDOWN LANE WAS A BRIDGE TOO BIG. 
          YES. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT, UM, THE $257 MILLION ESTIMATE THAT WAS PROVIDED. 
          THAT IS A, A THREE LANE, UM, EASTBOUND SPAN, A BRIDGE, UM, NO MUP WITH IT. 
          UM, I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THAT? CENTER MULTI-USE. 
          OKAY, GOTCHA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IT WOULD BE THE THREE LANES WOULD BE, UH, 12 FOOT WIDTH LANES AND THAT THERE WOULD BE SHOULDERS, 10 FOOT SHOULDERS ON EITHER SIDE TO 10 FOOT SHOULDERS. 
          SO, SO OBVIOUSLY TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE THAT LARGER TO INCLUDE THE, UH, MUP OR IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE IT NARROWER SO THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THREE LANES WITH SHOULDERS ON EACH SIDE, IT WOULD EITHER DECREASE OR INCREASE THE ESTIMATE. 
          BUT THE ESTIMATE THAT I PROVIDE TO YOU TODAY IS THREE LANES, 12 FEET IN WIDTH SHOULDERS, NO, MUP. 
          OKAY, GOT IT. 
          SO THREE 12 FOOT LANES PLUS TWO 10 FOOT BREAKDOWN LANES. 
          AND, AND FURTHER THE FURTHER POINT, MS. BRYSON, IF, IF YOU WANTED TO INCLUDE THE MUP AND ALL THAT, THE ESTIMATE IS $318 MILLION. 
          SO THERE, THERE'S ROUGHLY A, A $60 MILLION INCREASE FOR THE MUP LANES. 
          AND SO IT, IT SCALES DOWN TO 2 57 0.7 BY ELIMINATING THAT MUP. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          UM, IT, AND, UM, DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE FOR, UM, THREE TOTAL LANES, TWO 12 FOOT LANES, ONE 10 FOOT BREAKDOWN LANE, AND ONE SIX FOOT SHOULDER? I, I DO NOT HAVE THEM, BUT, BUT SINCE THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THIS ANALYSIS, I THINK IT, THEY COULD RELATIVELY QUICKLY ADJUST THAT ANALYSIS DOWN IF YOU WANTED TO, TO MODIFY IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AT THIS TIME, I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT THE MULTI NO, I UNDERSTAND PATHWAY, JUST THE, JUST THE, UM, YES. 
          TRAVEL PORTION MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ANYBODY ELSE ON THE TOWN COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN SEEING THOSE NUMBERS, BUT, UM, IF, IF, IF WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO HAVING THAT KIND OF DETAIL, I WOULD MAKE THAT REQUEST MYSELF. 
          UM, AND, AND, UM, THE OTHER THING THAT'S ALWAYS CONCERNED ME AND IS INCLUDED IN OUR MOA, UM, WHICH WAS SENT TO S-E-D-O-T AS WELL, UM, AS PART OF PART AND PARCEL OF OUR MUNICIPAL CONSENT, WE HAD TO DO IT SEPARATELY AT THE TIME AS YOU RECALL. 
          UM, BUT, UM, I RECALL , BUT YES, SIR, AT THE LAST MINUTE GETTING TEXT. 
          AND WE YES, SIR. 
          UM, SO, UM, THE CAUSEWAYS, UH, MUCH AS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE UNDERGROUND, UH, WATERLINE, ARE THE CAUSEWAYS BEING ADDRESSED BECAUSE AT THE TIME IN LATE JUNE, OUR UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT 30% DESIGN DONE DID NOT INCLUDE, INCLUDE THE COST OF THE CAUSEWAYS. 
          EVEN IF WE GO ONLY WITH AN EASTBOUND SPAN, THERE'S STILL TWO CAUSEWAYS THAT HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED AND DESIGNED TO, UH, TO MEET, UM, UH, STORM SURGES, ET CETERA. 
          AND AS I UNDERSTOOD AT THE TIME, WE DECIDED THIS IN LATE JUNE, IT DID NOT INCLUDE THAT. 
          SO IS THERE A COST ESTIMATE FOR ADDRESSING THE CAUSEWAYS AS PART OF THE PROJECT? I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS, IS THE INSTRUCTION THAT, THAT I WAS GIVEN BY TOWN AND COUNTY WAS TO COME UP, TRY TO FACILITATE GETTING DOLLAR ESTIMATES AND, AND JARED AND, AND SEAN AND I GOT THAT INFORMATION, AND, AND NOW IN PIECEMEAL BRINGING IT BACK, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE 257 MILLION QUOTE HERE IS INCLUSIVE OF ALL THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE, INCLUDING MS. TONERS POINT ABOUT THE, THE WATER LINES, UM, AND INCLUSIVE OF THE CAUSEWAYS. 
          BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. 
          THE, THE, WE'RE, 
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WE'RE MAKE, YOU ALL ARE MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON A FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN HAND, AND YOU NEED VERY SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNTS SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS INTELLIGENTLY. 
          SO I, I THINK THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, IT IS INCLUDED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND OF THAT ESTIMATE JUST FOR THE EASTBOUND BRIDGE PORTION MM-HMM . 
          AND HOPEFULLY IT'S ALL INCLUSIVE. 
          UM, PREVIOUSLY S-E-D-O-T HAD, UM, IN, IN THEIR, UM, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT THAT THEY WERE, UH, SETTING ASIDE SOME FUNDING FOR STONY, UM, THERE WAS A PAVILION AND THERE WAS SOME SIGNAGE AND SOME ONLINE INTERACTIVE. 
          ARE THOSE INCLUDED IN THAT EASTBOUND BRIDGE? UM, OR, OR THOSE EXCLUDED? NOW, I WOULD SAY THE LATTER BECAUSE, BECAUSE I, I THINK WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO HERE IS IDENTIFY OF THE UNIVERSE OF MONEY THAT THERE IS, IF YOU WANT TO DO THIS EAST, EASTBOUND, YOU KNOW, THREE LANES, THIS IS WHAT IT WILL COST. 
          LEAVING THE DELTA OR THE $40 MILLION FOR THE ON ISLAND, THERE'D BE NO OTHER RESIDUAL MONEY COMING INTO SUPPLEMENT THAT 40. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT THE YEAH, SO THAT DEFINITELY CHANGES THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT. 
          THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IS, IS THAT YOU'VE GOT THREE LEVELS OF NEPA INVOLVEMENT. 
          YOU'VE GOT THE MM-HMM . 
          THE FULL, UM, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT MM-HMM . 
          YOU HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, AND THEN THE, THE, THE THIRD, THE THE LEAST IS THE, UH, CATEGORICAL EXCLUSION. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WHICH, WHICH HE'S CONFIDENT WILL RELATE TO THE BRIDGE PIECE OF THIS, THE MODIFIED BRIDGE PIECE, THE ON ISLAND PIECE OKAY. 
          IS GOING TO REQUIRE NEA AND, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS PRIOR TO COMING UP WITH A PLAN AND, AND PRESENTING IT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND. 
          BUT THERE IS GONNA BE A PROCESS AFTER THAT FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS OR WHATEVER'S INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE EA PROCESS. 
          UM, BUT, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE WITHIN THE CONTEXT AS, AS PRESENTED, UM, AS A SEPARATE PROJECT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT WOULD BE LOOKED AT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT, UM, NOT ONE THAT IS TIED IN WITH THE BRIDGE. 
          SO THAT WOULD TRAVEL, THE OTHER ONE WOULD TRAVEL SEPARATELY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND, AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT CATEGORY EXCLUSIONS WERE. 
          I SAW THAT CAPITALIZE IN YOUR LETTER. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO LOOK IT UP. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, SO IT, AND, AND THAT'S, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, BECAUSE THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY FUNDS WOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE ON ISLAND, IF YOU WILL, JUST THE BRIDGE SECTION. 
          SO HENCE IT COMES OUT OF THE EA AND THAT PROCESS. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          MY, MY CONCERN FOR THE STONY COMMUNITY IS THAT , IF, IF, IF ONLY THE EASTBOUND BRIDGE IS BUILT, THERE'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON STONY BY HAVING THREE TRAVEL LANES COMING INTO THAT AREA. 
          AND WITHOUT SOME SORT OF ASSURANCE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE STONY AREA, FUNDS GO FUNDS TEND TO SHRINK OVER TIME,  AS WE SEE. 
          SO IF THERE'S $40 MILLION, AND IF THAT'S ADEQUATE TO DO ALL THAT, THE TOWN COUNCIL PUT IN THE, IN THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT IN LATE JUNE, FINE. 
          BUT WHAT IF COST INCREASE OVER TIME AND, AND WHAT IS THE PHASING GONNA BE BETWEEN THE BRIDGE PART AND THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STONY AREA, UM, AND HOW'S IT IMPACTED, AND HOW DO WE KNOW WITHOUT THE TWO TIED TOGETHER THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, HAVE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO STONY STAY INTACT? I, I'M SORRY. 
          I DON'T MEAN TO BE ASKING YOU THAT QUESTION. 
          NO, I MEAN, I, AND, AND I'M, WE, WERE QUICKLY APPROACHING ABOVE MY PAY GRADE IN, IN REGARD TO THE ENGINEERING COMPONENTS. 
          UM, SO I, I CAN'T, I DON'T WANNA VENTURE A GUESS ON THAT. 
          SURE, SURE, SURE. 
          I APOLOGIZE, I KIND OF MORPH INTO NO WORRIES. 
          SOMETHING I MIGHT BE SAYING OTHERWISE. 
          SO THANK YOU SENATOR DAVIS. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          SENATOR, YOU'VE HELPED ME UNDERSTAND HOW, HOW SEPARATING THE TWO SEPARATES THE REQUIREMENTS, THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          SO, AND LET ME JUST, UM, AND I WOULD REFER, I MEAN, TO, TO ANSWER THAT, 'CAUSE I ASKED THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY TO SECRETARY POWELL, AND, AND HIS RESPONSE WAS HE BELIEVES THAT IT CAN BE CHARACTERIZED BY THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION AS A SEPARATE PROJECT. 
          AND, AND I, BEYOND THAT, I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD READ THAT TO, TO SEAN AND TO JARED AND, AND TO THE OTHERS TO SORT THAT OUT. 
          THEY'RE MORE CONVERSANT WITH THAT THAN I AM. 
          YEAH. 
          THANKS VERY MUCH. 
          AND, AND THE LAST QUESTION, AND I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE YOU KEEP STANDING UP HERE, BUT, AND IF SOMEONE ELSE KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THIS, WHEN MEETING WITH S-C-D-O-T AND LOOKING AT THE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE NOW, WHEN, WHEN MUNICIPAL CONSENT WAS ADOPTED, THE END OF JUNE, UM, AND THEN SEPARATELY THERE WAS A RESOLUTION SENT TO S-C-D-O-T WITH OUR EXPECTATIONS IN QUOTATIONS, I'M USING THAT OF WHAT'S BEING INCLUDED, THE SAME AS WE SENT TO THE COUNTY. 
          HAS, S-O-D-O-T RESPONDED TO THAT BECAUSE IT TOOK 11, UH, SORRY, IT, IT TOOK UNTIL 11TH MONTH, FIVE MONTHS FOR THE COUNTY TO RESPOND. 
          AND WE UNDERSTAND IT WAS A STAFF RESPONSE IN THAT COUNTY COUNCIL 
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RESPONSE. 
          BUT HAS S-E-D-O-T RESPONDED TO WHAT, UM, THE, THE TOWN WANTED INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT? I DON'T KNOW. 
          THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR MR. ORLANDO AND MR. MOORE WAS DO WITH ANSWER GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          MARK. 
          SUBJECT, PARDON, PARDON ME. 
          I RASH, I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN HERE AND THANK JARED HERE TO HELP. 
          SO THE, THE TOWN PROVIDED THE MUNICIPAL CONSENT RESOLUTION TO S-C-D-O-T CONCURRENTLY AND, AND DELIVERING THE MOA TO BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          UM, THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL, UH, ANTICIPATED ACTION FROM THE COUNTY, UM, ON THE MUNICIPAL CONSENT, MOA, THERE WAS ANOTHER MOA THAT WAS APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL. 
          THAT'S, THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS TITLED SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS OF TOWN COUNCIL THAT WAS SENT. 
          WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE TO THAT DOCUMENT AT THIS TIME. 
          FROM, FROM S-C-D-O-T? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT, BUT IT WAS SENT TO S-C-D-O-T? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IN IN COMPANION WITH A, A RESOLUTION OF CONSENT. 
          CORRECT. 
          JUDICIAL CONSENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WASN'T THERE AN ADDITIONAL, UM, DOCUMENT THAT WE RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE JUNE 26, 28, UM, MEETING THAT SCDO, UM, T DID RESPOND TO THAT SECRETARY POWELL DID RESPOND TO, AND HE HAD GIVEN HIS FEEDBACK ON A NUMBER OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD FORWARDED HIM TO HIM. 
          MUCH OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, DIDN'T WE RECEIVE THAT DOCUMENT? UH, THERE WAS SOMETHING, BUT IT DID NOT, WE HAD NOT YET FINISHED THIS. 
          HE SAID AS A COURTESY THAT IT REALLY DOESN'T PERTAIN TO ANYTHING THAT, BUT AS A COURTESY, HE DID. 
          IF WE COULD ASK THE PUBLIC NOT TO INTERRUPT OUR DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME. 
          THERE, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT TOWN COUNCIL HAD IN ADVANCE OF THE WORKSHOPS THAT WE HELD IN JUNE RELATED TO IMPLICATIONS ON THE SIB FUNDING. 
          UM, THE, THE DEADLINE OF JUNE 28TH FOR THE, UM, FOR THE MUNICIPAL CONSENT AND THE NEPA EXPIRATION, AND THOSE QUESTIONS WERE POSED. 
          SECRETARY POWELL PROVIDED A LETTER IN ADVANCE OF THAT MEETING. 
          UM, IN THAT LETTER, UH, HE TALKED ABOUT HIS TAKE ON WHAT, WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS WERE RELATED TO THE SSIB FUNDING, UM, AND ALSO PROVIDED INFORMATION RELATED TO THE CONDITION OF THE BRIDGE AND THE POTENTIAL LOAD POSTING CONCERN THAT HE HAD. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT WAS ALL PROVIDED, UM, AND, AND DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL OF THOSE WORKSHOPS IN JUNE. 
          SENATOR, IF I, IF I COULD ASK, UM, WHAT IS S-E-D-O-T LOOKING FOR FROM US TO MOVE FORWARD? ARE THEY LOOKING FOR US TO COME OUT AND PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL MUNICIPAL CONSENT THAT SAYS WE ACCEPT, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROPOSAL OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT? IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FROM US? I THINK, I THINK ULTIMATELY WHAT THEY WERE INITIALLY, WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR IS A RESPONSE AS TO HOW YOU ARE GONNA COME UP WITH A LOCAL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MATCH TO GET THE 190. 
          BUT, BUT, BUT I, I THINK WE, WE'VE MOVED PAST THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, UM, ALTHOUGH THEY, BUT I THINK THAT ALTHOUGH THAT WAS THE REQUEST BY MARCH 31ST, A RESPONSE AS TO THAT, I THINK A RESPONSE AS TO A SCALE BACK APPROACH USING EXISTING DOLLARS SUBMITTED TO THE DOT AND THE SIV WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME WOULD SUFFICE AS A RESPONSE IS, IS, IS MY JUDGMENT. 
          I DON'T WANNA PASS OVER WHAT, UM, UM, COUNCILMAN BRYSON WAS REFERRING TO ON THE SECOND, ON THE, UM, CORRIDOR PIECE AND THE MONIES THERE AS IN REFERRING BACK TO THE MOA THAT WE RECEIVED, THE MOA THAT WE RECEIVED BACK FROM THE COUNTY, THAT SEPARATED OUR MOA INTO TWO SEPARATE PIECES, AS I SAID BEFORE, UM, THAT MOA THAT PERTAINED TO THE CORRIDOR AND STONEY, ET CETERA, WAS ESSENTIALLY A RED LINE PAPER FRONT AND BACK. 
          SO, AND TAKING NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR INTEREST IN, UM, ACCOMPLISHING THOSE GOALS THROUGH THIS PROJECT. 
          AND SO WITH REGARD TO THE 40 MILLION THEREABOUTS DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE LEFT OVER, HOW MUCH MONEY MORE WOULD THERE BE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE SET FORTH AS CONDITIONS TO OUR MUNICIPAL CONSENT? AND SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING, THOSE ARE SOME OF MY QUESTIONS. 
          IF WE INTEND TO, TO CARRY THROUGH ON WHAT WE HAD, UM, OFFERED AS CONDITIONS TO MUNICIPAL CONSENT, I WANNA KNOW IF THE COUNTY'S NOT INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THAT, UM, WHERE THOSE DOLLARS WOULD COME FROM, OR IS THAT NOW PART OF THIS DISCUSSION OFF THE TABLE? AND, AND, AND WE NEED TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE IF WE'RE MASTER PLANNING, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE MASTER PLAN INCLUDES AND WHAT THAT IS GOING TO COST AND WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT. 
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AND, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD THOSE ANSWERS YEAH. 
          IN THESE CONVERSATIONS. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU KEEP PRESSING BACK TO WHAT YOU WANNA GET OUT OF THIS TODAY AND WHAT IS, UM, EXPECTED TO, TO, TO PROVIDE. 
          BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE ELEMENTS AND INCLUDED IN THOSE ELEMENTS ARE THE VARIETY OF IDEAS THAT HAVE COME FORTH PREVIOUSLY. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHERS WHO HAVE, UM, IDEAS THAT THEY STILL WANT TO SUBMIT AND BE HEARD, UM, AND WHAT THOSE ARE GOING TO COST. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE ANYMORE MONEY IS COMING FROM, AND I CERTAINLY HAVE PROMISED, UM, AND DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD SHOULD BE COMING UP WITH THOSE DOLLARS. 
          SO I'M ASKING, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO RESPOND TO, MS. BRYSON, THE QUESTION YOU MADE ABOUT THE TWO PROJECTS AND HOW THEY INTERRELATE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SECRETARY POWELL DID SAY, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALL COMING BACK TO ME. 
          IT WAS YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, UM, THAT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE ON ISLAND PIECE IS FINALIZED, AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE MITIGATION THINGS IN PLACE, THAT THE NEW THREE LANE, THREE LANE EASTBOUND LANE WOULD BE STRIPED FOR TWO SO THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, AS YOU SAY, WITH THREE LANES DUMPING INTO THAT UNTIL YOU HAD THAT ISLAND PIECE IN PLACE ON ISLAND PIECE IN PLACE. 
          SO I FORGOT, I, I APOLOGIZE. 
          THAT WAS SOMETHING HE DID MENTION TO ME ABOUT THAT. 
          SO, MS. BECKER, UM, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. 
          THERE'S STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, WE WERE POSED WITH SENATOR DAVIS'S, UH, PROPOSAL THIS MORNING. 
          UM, SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO FULLY VET EVERYTHING. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WHEN I MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED 29TH MEETING, THAT'S ANOTHER TIME FOR US TO COME BACK AND THERE CAN BE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT'S GATHERED FROM STAFF BETWEEN NOW AND THEN MM-HMM . 
          TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE PUBLIC. 
          SO IT, IT'S NOT ABOUT PUSHING IT DOWN THE ROAD. 
          IT'S ABOUT, OKAY, WHAT DO WE, FROM THIS MEETING TODAY, WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW FOR THE NEXT MEETING? RIGHT? WHAT QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A BETTER DECISION ON THE COMPROMISE AS WE'RE GONNA GONNA MOVE FORWARD? UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK THAT, THAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          AND MARK, AS WE TALKED THIS MORNING, YOU KNOW, UM, I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT A JANUARY 29TH WORKSHOP AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH WITH Y'ALL WORKING, UH, ON THE, ON ISLAND SIDE OF THE PLAN AS TO WHAT COSTS ARE THERE, WHAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING COULD BE THERE, ALL OF THAT. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE, THERE, THERE ARE TOO MANY QUESTIONS UNANSWERED AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, MAYOR, IF I COULD ASK ONE OTHER THING, UH, WITH, WITH GREAT THANKS TO SENATOR DAVIS. 
          IF WE COULD ASK OUR TOWN STAFF TO POST HIS LETTER WITH INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT AS WELL. 
          YES, I CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, AND ALSO, I JUST WANNA NOTE, IT'S JANUARY 28TH, NOT THE 29TH. 
          OH, IT'S JANUARY, WHAT? 28TH? OH, EIGHTH, TUESDAY, THE 29TH. 
          MY APOLOGIES. 
          YES, MR. BROWN. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, IN PREPARATION FOR THAT, UH, WORKSHOP ON THE, THE 28TH, NOW, UM, THE THINK ONE OF THE, THE, THE KEY COMPONENTS THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE IS, UM, WE'VE GOT ONE BIG POOL OF MONEY THAT HAVE COME FROM DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          ONE OF WHICH WAS THE, UH, 2018 REFERENDUM, WHICH WAS SOLD TO OUR COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE BRIDGE, BUT IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR. 
          SO, AGAIN, I'M, I GUESS I'M PRESSING HERE, OUR COLLEAGUES AT THE COUNTY, THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A TRUE RESPONSE TO THAT MOA SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A QUALIFIED CONVERSATION ON THE 28TH. 
          BECAUSE IF WE DON'T KNOW THE COST THAT INVOLVED AND THE IMPROVEMENTS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S PALATABLE TO OUR COLLEAGUES, WE'LL JUST BE SPINNING OUR WHEELS. 
          SO I'M JUST ENCOURAGING, UM, YOU CHAIR HOWARD IN THE COUNTY WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR WORKSHOP HERE SHORTLY, THAT THERE'S AN OFFICIAL RESPONSE BACK TO US AS FAR AS THIS MOA IS CONCERNED, AND THAT WILL PUT US IN A BETTER POSITION TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS. 
          ANOTHER THING OCCURRED TO ME, UM, SECRETARY POWELL INDICATED THAT, UM, ALTHOUGH THERE WASN'T AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A LARGE GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, THAT HE WAS WILLING TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR A SMALLER GRANT. 
          AND PERHAPS THAT COULD COVER SOME OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ON ISLAND, DEPENDING UPON WHAT THE ESTIMATED COST IS. 
          AND I, I JUST FRANKLY DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT THAT WOULD BE. 
          AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S CONSENSUS AMONG COUNCIL RIGHT NOW AS TO WHAT THAT MASTER CLAIM WOULD LOOK LIKE TO EVEN TRY TO GET AN ESTIMATE. 
          UM, WELL, EVEN IF IT JUST APPLIED TO THE BRIDGE SIDE OF AND RELEASE PART OF OUR $80 MILLION BACK TO US, THAT, THAT'S FINE AS WELL, IF IT WAS BETTER IN THAT REALM. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SEAN, WE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT, RIGHT? DO YOU HAVE SOME, SOME MARCHING ORDERS FROM US, OR DO YOU NEED SOMETHING ADDITIONAL? I, I THINK THIS MEETING HAS BEEN, UH, VERY GOOD, VERY INFORMATIVE. 
          I'M GLAD THAT OUR PARTNERS FROM THE COUNTY ARE HERE AS WELL. 
          UM, I THINK WE UNDERSTAND TOWN COUNCIL'S POSITION BASED ON WHAT SENATOR DAVIS 
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HAS PROVIDED HERE TODAY. 
          UM, THERE ARE SOME BITS OF INFORMATION THAT ARE STILL ARE NEEDED. 
          WE DO NEED THE DETAILED LIST OF COSTS FROM DOT. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'LL BE FORTHCOMING PRETTY SOON. 
          UM, SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOT A FEW OF 'EM HERE TODAY. 
          AND THE BALANCE TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF STONY, UM, WE WILL HAVE THE BENEFIT, I HOPE, OF AT LEAST THE COUNTY, UH, ALIGNMENT ON WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED HERE TODAY FROM SENATOR DAVIS. 
          AND A REACTION, UH, IF THEY HAVE A MEETING COMING UP ON THE 21ST, AND THEN BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION. 
          IF WE DO HAVE A, A WORKSHOP HERE, UH, LATER TODAY, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE IN MY MIND A PATH FORWARD BOTH ON CRITICAL PATH AND A WAY TO, UM, TO MOVE THE EXPECTATIONS FROM TOWN COUNCIL AND THE MOA THAT WE SENT AND, AND THE MOAS THAT'LL BE NEEDED FOR THIS, THESE PROJECT, IF IT'S BIFURCATED. 
          UH, SO I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY ON, AND ON THE 28TH, WE COULD ALSO DISCUSS THE MOA, AND, YOU KNOW, AFTER HAVING INFORMATION BACK FROM, FROM THE COUNTY, THAT'LL BE PART OF THAT, THAT AGENDA TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND MAY BEFORE. 
          SO THE THREE LANES, AND THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, UH, SENATOR DAVIS, THREE LANES AND TWO BREAKDOWN LANES PUTS US BACK AT ANOTHER SPAN OF CONCRETE COMING ONTO THE BRIDGE THAT I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN AN ACCEPTABLE WITH, UM, BY THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE, AND I WOULD THINK THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS, UM, WHAT THREE LANES REALLY MEANS. 
          AND TO ME, IN TERMS OF THE WAY IT WAS JUST DESCRIBED, WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS IS IT'S TWO LANES WITH A THIRD LANE THAT'S A BREAKDOWN LANE, BUT A VIABLE LANE THAT COULD, IF NECESSARILY BE USED, IF WE COULD AGREE TO IT AS A REVERSIBLE LANE FOR THOSE PINCH POINT TIMES, AS WELL AS A LANE FOR EMERGENCY EVACUATION OFF OF THE ISLAND. 
          UM, SO ESSENTIALLY A THREE LANES, BUT, BUT IN PRACTICAL MATTERS, TWO LANES WITH A BREAKDOWN LANE, UM, AND NOT THREE, AND NOT THREE LANES WITH TWO 10 FOOT BREAKDOWN LANES, UM, ON EITHER SIDE. 
          SO I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY A BIG PIECE OF WHAT WE NEED TO BE, UM, THINKING ABOUT AND AGREEING ON AS WELL. 
          UM, THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED IN, UM, SENATOR DAVIS'S, UM, LETTER IN DISCUSSION HERE TODAY. 
          UM, I ALSO THINK THAT, UM, WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE WORK ON ISLAND, A NUMBER OF, UM, PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE MASTER PLAN, A SEGMENTED PLAN THAT ALLOWS FOR EXPANSION, BUT THEY'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT A FREE FLOW, UM, CONCEPT, WHICH REQUIRES MORE ENGINEERING AND MORE MONEY THAN JUST, UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH STONY. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE THAT IS A BIGGER CHUNK OF MONEY THAN MAYBE WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, TALKING ABOUT. 
          BUT IF WE WANNA TRULY RESOLVE THE TRAFFIC ISSUES, THAT FREE FLOW, THE POSSIBILITY OF AN OVERPASS OR RAISED, UM, PORTION COMES BACK INTO PLAY. 
          AND I KNOW WE'VE HEARD IT BEFORE, BUT I THINK WE'RE AT A NEW PLACE, AS I SAID ORIGINALLY, WHERE EVERYTHING IS BACK ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION. 
          SO THAT WHEN WE'RE TRULY PROVIDING THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE, UM, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, SECURE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          WE COULD HAVE DONE ALL THIS AGAIN MONTHS, YEARS AGO IF PEOPLE I HOPE THIS TIME WILL KEEP THEIR EXPECTATIONS AND THEIR WISHLISTS, UM, IN CONTROL AND WE CAN, UM, MOVE FORWARD IN A MORE PRACTICAL MANNER WITHIN OUR MEANS. 
          AND IN THE LAST PART OF THIS, BECAUSE I DO WANNA ROUND IT OUT, IT'S MY EXPECTATION MOVING FORWARD THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE IN ADVISED AND INFORMED ON A REGULAR, UM, BASIS. 
          AND I WOULD SPECIFICALLY ASK THAT I BE INCLUDED IN ALL FUTURE MEETINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          MARK, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO ADD? YES, I'M GONNA ADD SOMETHING. 
          I, I JUST NEED SOME CLARITY WITH, WITHOUT DUE RESPECT SITTING IN THE ROOM, MY INVOLVEMENT TO GO MEET WITH MR. MOORE, SEAN, AND I AND JARED TO MEET IN FUTURE MEETINGS. 
          IS TOWN COUNCIL ASKING ME THAT I NOT BE IN THOSE MEETINGS OR, OKAY. 
          WELL, BECAUSE YOU SAYING NO, IF, IF I LED YOU TO BELIEVE THAT, NO, MY FIRST STATEMENT WAS BECAUSE OF COURSE NOT, THAT'S NOT WANT FULL, FULL 100% CLARITY, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS TO DO. 
          AND SO HERE'S WHAT I THINK SEAN AND I, AND WE, WE CAN COMPARE SOME NOTES, BUT, WELL, SEAN WAS, WAS TALKING, I, I WAS TRACKING. 
          SO HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT I THINK THAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE, OR AT LEAST THE, THE RUNWAY IS MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, THERE IS A JANUARY 21ST BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING WORKSHOP. 
          I THINK THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL WILL BE OUT OF TOWN AT THE MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION 
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OF SOUTH CAROLINA ANNUAL LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAY. 
          IT'S, IT'S THE MUNI ASSOCIATION FOR MUNICIPALITIES. 
          UM, AT LEAST I WILL BE IN COLUMBIA AT THAT TIME. 
          BUT THE MEETING IS THEN WE HAVE A JANUARY 28TH, KIM, TO CONFIRM TUESDAY, JANUARY 28TH, PROBABLY ONE O'CLOCK WORKSHOP OF TOWN COUNCIL. 
          WE HAVE A DEFINED DEADLINE. 
          SENATOR DAVIS, AGAIN, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD IT A HUNDRED TIMES. 
          101. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND AT LEAST WHAT WE NEED TO DO, UH, IN, IN REGARD TO GETTING THIS THERE WITH DOT AND A. 
          A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO SECRETARY POWELL AS WELL. 
          BUT A MARCH 31ST DEADLINE, WE NEED TO PUT, GIVE THIS TO YOU AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP. 
          SO IF NOT BEFORE, I'LL SEND YOU A MEMO, BUT AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP, WE WILL SHOW YOU A CRITICAL PATH WITH THAT TIMELINE NO LATER THAN THE 31ST OF MARCH, THERE'LL BE MILESTONES, KEY QUESTIONS AND DECISION POINTS, WHICH I THINK I, UH, OVERVIEWED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS WORKSHOP TODAY. 
          MONEY FUNDING, I THINK THAT IS ANSWERED. 
          WE'RE BACK TO THE M MO A SLASH SCOPE OF WORK. 
          UM, SOME KEY DECISIONS TO START THINKING ABOUT. 
          WE'RE GONNA CONFIRM THE AVAILABLE PROJECT FUNDING, WHICH I THINK WE HAVE, BUT UNLESS AND UNTIL, UNLESS AND UNTIL MARCH 31ST COMES, I I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT DEFINITIVE, UH, SIB ANSWER WE NEED FROM DOT, SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND BUFORT COUNTY, THE OPINION OF PROBABLE COST ON THE COMPONENT SEGMENTS THAT THE COST ESTIMATES. 
          SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. 
          UM, WE NEED TO AT SOME POINT UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF THE BRIDGE AND AGAIN, COST BREAKDOWN, BUT IMPACT BREAKDOWN. 
          SO MS. BECKER SAID TWO LANES IN A BREAKDOWN LANE. 
          WE HEARD THREE LANES AND TWO BREAKDOWN LANES. 
          MS. BRYSON SAID SOMETHING SIMILAR IN BETWEEN. 
          I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND BASED UPON THAT COST, SO A TWO LANE BRIDGE AND A BREAKDOWN IS A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE THAN A THREE LANE. 
          OBVIOUSLY, I'M STATING THE OBVIOUS, NOT KIND OF ON PURPOSE, BUT PERHAPS THE, IF, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THOSE FUNDS PERHAPS CAN BE TARGETED TO THE WINDMILL HARBOR RAMP INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT. 
          SO WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. 
          AND ONE DECISION LEADS TO THE NEXT, AND I KNOW WE KNOW THAT. 
          I JUST WANNA STATE THE OBVIOUS. 
          UM, WE ALSO THEN HAVE TO DETERMINE THE SCOPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT THROUGH THE STONY HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND THROUGH THE MAIN CORRIDOR TO AND FROM HILTON HEAD ISLAND BASED UPON AVAILABLE FUNDS FOR NOW. 
          SO IF THERE'S $39 MILLION LEFT, THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THE MASTER PLAN HAS TO, HAS TO BE AROUND THAT NUMBER. 
          WE AT SOME POINT WILL NEED TO REVISIT WITH YOU BY RESOLUTION OF BEAUFORT COUNTY, HILTON, HEAD ISLAND, MOA MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT. 
          WE WILL ALSO NEED TO WORK WITH BUFORT COUNTY AND JUST GUIDE AND SUPPORT AND HELP ANY BUFORT COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA SIB, MOA CONTRACT AMENDMENT, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND SENATOR DAVIS ALLUDED TO THAT TODAY. 
          BUT THAT, THAT TAKES A MINUTE. 
          AND THEN ARGUABLY, I HAVE TO MAKE SENSE OF THIS AND TALK WITH JARED AND MR. MOORE ABOUT THE S-E-D-O-T MUNICIPAL CONSENT CONFIRMATION THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED, BUT IT WAS BASED UPON AN APPROVED MOA, WHICH IS GOING TO CHANGE MM-HMM . 
          AND SO I THINK THIS IS IT, LIKE THERE'S FIVE OR SIX THINGS IN HERE, BUT MOST IMPORTANT IS SCOPE OF BRIDGE. 
          SOUNDS LIKE SCOPE OF BRIDGE, COST OF BRIDGE DRIVES, SCOPE OF STONY COST OF STONY. 
          THE $80 MILLION IN THE REFERENDUM WAS FOR AN IMPROVEMENT THROUGH THE STONY CORRIDOR. 
          IN ADDITION TO BRIDGE REPAIRS, OR PERHAPS IN CONJUNCTION IN ADDITION TO BRIDGE REPAIRS, UM, TO THE ISLAND TO MAKE STONY SAFE. 
          WE, WE KNOW, I I I CAN'T GET FAST ENOUGH. 
          WE WILL START, I DON'T, I'M NOT GONNA ASK YOU FOR AN APPROVAL. 
          I'M NOT GONNA GO SPEND TIME WITH THE COUNTY ON AN MOA OR AN IGA TO FIND SOME FUNDS, BUT IF YOU EXPECT ME TO PROVIDE TO YOU AND FOR SENATOR DAVIS'S DIRECTION, A STONY AREA MASTER PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED ON THAT THIS AFTERNOON. 
          OKAY. 
          MAY I ADD JUST ONE OTHER THING? IT WAS SUGGESTED, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTIONS, AS HAVE SUGGESTED IT PREVIOUSLY, THAT NOW THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT CONTINUE AND CONNECT TO THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY AND NOT END AT SQUARE OF HOPEE. 
          AND SO THAT TOO ADDS TO YOUR LIST AND IT ADDS TO THE EXPENSE AND THE DESIGN AND THE TIMEFRAME, ET CETERA. 
          BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE LETTER DOES STATE FROM WINDMILL HARBOR TO CROSS ISLAND. 
          I KNOW IT, I KNOW IT DOES, BUT I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT IN TERMS OF THE LIST THAT MARK JUST READ OFF, THAT 
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THAT CROSS ISLAND EXTENSION OF THE PROJECT SCOPE IS INCLUDED IN, IN THAT. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO MENTION IT FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH TO WHOMEVER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST BEEN BROUGHT UP HERE TODAY. 
          IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP OVER THE YEARS THAT WE, WHY ARE WE STOPPING AT SQUIRE POPE AND NOT GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE CROSS ISLAND? AND NOW'S THE TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING AND DO IT. 
          UM, THEN SECONDLY, UM, I I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT LIST STAYS OPEN IN OUR CONVERSATION. 
          UM, AND OUR MINDS STAY OPEN ON THIS, UH, COUNCIL AS WE LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE TO SPEAK AND WHO HAVE BROUGHT THEIR IDEAS AND THEIR COMMENTS. 
          AND IT'S OUR, UH, RESPONSIBILITY TO HEAR THEM AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY AND, AND TRY TO INCLUDE THEM WHERE WE CAN. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER MR. BROWN? YEP. 
          JUST ONE LAST THING, MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, MR. OLAND IS GONNA START WORKING ON THAT MASTER PLAN THIS AFTERNOON. 
          I WOULD  I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, MY COLLEAGUES HERE ON TOWN COUNCIL, PARTICULARLY THE NEW, UH, NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS, UM, THE MOA REFERENCES DYSTONIA INITIATIVE PLAN AS A GUIDE FOR ANY PARTICULAR MASTER PLAN. 
          IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THAT, I SUGGEST THAT YOU DO. 
          I MAKE THE SAME SUGGESTION FOR OUR COLLEAGUES AT THE COUNTY, THAT WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH. 
          THERE'S A BASELINE HERE AS FAR AS THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED NEEDED IN THAT STONY AREA FROM DECADES AGO. 
          OKAY? AND I, I ALSO ENCOURAGE OUR PUBLIC TO TAKE SOME TIME AND GO ON THE WEBSITE AND READ THAT SO THAT WE HAVE THAT BASELINE AS FAR AS EXPECTATIONS IN THAT PARTICULAR PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU HERE. 
          IF I COULD PIGGYBACK ON, PIGGYBACK ON THAT, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL, UH, FOR THE, UM, TOWN CLERK TO SEND TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT PLAN AND TO INCLUDE THAT PLAN IN OUR 2 78 WEBSITE, UM, INITIATIVE PAGE SO THAT FOLKS KNOW ABOUT IT AND, AND PERHAPS IT, IT, IF IT'D BE HELPFUL TO SEND A COPY TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF THAT PLAN SO THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT . 
          SO, UM, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS, MAYOR? I'M SORRY. 
          ONE, ONE MORE THING. 
          UM, AND THAT IS, I, I, I DON'T REALLY WANNA SAY THIS OUT LOUD, BUT I THINK IT WAS PART OF OUR CONSIDERATION, AND THAT IS IN, IN LOOKING AT, UM, WHAT WE MIGHT NEED TO PLAN FOR AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE SIB MONEY? THE 120 MILLION DISAPPEARING, BECAUSE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE BRIDGE PROJECT AND THE, THE IGA, THE INTERGOVERNMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND SIB GOES ALL THE WAY TO SPANISH WELLS. 
          UM, SO IN MY VIEW, THAT'D BE DIFFICULT TO USE ALL THAT MONEY JUST FOR AN EASTBOUND BRIDGE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          AGREEMENT BECAUSE THAT 120 MILLION IS, IS CONTEMPLATED TO BE, AS YOU SAY, ALL THE WAY TO SPANISH. 
          SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING IT JUST IN REGARD TO THE EASTBOUND SPAN FROM THE MAINLAND TO WINDMILL HARBOR, UM, AND WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE THAT AND NEED TO PRESENT THAT TO THE SIV. 
          BUT I FEEL LIKE WITH THE DELEGATION UNITED BEHIND THIS AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING THE S FOR ANY MORE MONEY, I FEEL GOOD ABOUT OUR CHANCES OF GETTING THAT IGA AMENDED TO REFLECT THAT, THAT MODIFIED SCOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT. 
          YOU KNOW, TH THIS IS A BIG COMPROMISE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON HERE TODAY. 
          AND IT'S NOT, BUT IT'S BEEN ON THE TABLE. 
          UM, THIS IS WHERE GOVERNMENT WORKS, RIGHT? WHEN WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND, AND TRY TO FIGURE THINGS OUT, WE KNOW WHAT THE POOL OF MONEY IS. 
          UM, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS COMING FORWARD. 
          THOSE IDEAS WILL BE SENT UP TO THE STATE, TO THE VI FOR THE VIABILITY OF THE STATE WILLING TO ACCEPT THESE IDEAS, RIGHT? WE'VE ALSO GOTTA KNOW WHAT THE STATE IS WILLING TO DO. 
          YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUSH AS MUCH AS WE WANT, BUT WE'RE NOT DRIVING THE BUS, RIGHT? SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, KIM, WE, UH, WE'LL OPEN UP TO YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. 
          KIM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE DO. 
          LEMME GET MY SLIDE PULLED UP HERE. 
          UM, MY FIRST IS DJ DELONG. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M HERE TO PRESENT SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE REPAIR. 
          IF PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. 
          PARDON? NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          DJ DELONG. 
          UM, BAYLOR PARK ROAD IN SEA PINES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL. 
          THE FOCUS SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN ON THE COMPLETE DEMOLITION OF THE MACKEY CREEK BRIDGE AND THE TRAFFIC 
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CONGESTION THAT WOULD RESULT FROM THAT FOR YEARS AND THE BURDEN THAT WOULD PLACE ON THE COMMUNITY. 
          PRIOR TO MY RETIREMENT, I WAS GENERAL MANAGER OF THE CARBON FIBER BUSINESS AT AMACO, AND WE HAD A BUSINESS GROUP FOCUSED ON THE USE OF MATERIALS TO REPAIR MARINE COLUMNS AND SLABS. 
          IT WAS A DIFFICULT PROCESS BECAUSE WE HAD TO SATISFY THE DESIGN ENGINEERS, THE CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERS, STATE DOTS, LOCAL PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THE US UH, CORPS OF ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. 
          THIS WORK WAS DONE IN THE 1990S. 
          THIS IS 25-YEAR-OLD TECHNOLOGY, AND I HEARD IT SORT OF PASSED OFF EARLIER AS IT'S 50 MILLION BUCKS AND IT'LL ONLY LAST FOR 10 YEARS. 
          THAT IS COMPLETELY CONTRARY TO THE EXPERIENCE THAT'S OUT THERE. 
          WHY HAVE WE NOT HEARD ABOUT THIS REPAIR AS A, AS AN OPTION? IF YOU ASK ANY MAJOR CONSTRUCTION COMPANY TO CHOOSE BETWEEN A $200 MILLION BRIDGE, NEW BRIDGE PROJECT AND A FIVE OR $10 MILLION REPAIR JOB IS EASY TO ASK THE PREFERRED OPTION. 
          IF MONEY IS NO OBJECT, THE CLIENT HAS TO FOCUS ON THE BEST USE OF THE PUBLIC FUNDS. 
          THERE ARE MANY ARTICLES OF THESE KINDS OF REPAIR PROJECTS AND THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT DO THEM. 
          I HAVE A PACKET I WOULD LIKE TO TO LEAVE WITH YOU. 
          THERE'S FIVE NATIONAL COMPANIES WHO DO THIS SORT OF PROCESS ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES. 
          THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 20 YEARS DOING REPAIR PROJECTS FOR PEER PEERS IN SALTWATER UH, LOCATIONS. 
          I HAVE, BELIEVE ME, I HAVE NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN ANY OF THESE COMPANIES. 
          ALRIGHT? UH, I DO SUGGEST THAT TOWN OR COUNTY STAFF CONTACT THESE COMPANIES AND ASK FOR A ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE ESTIMATE BASED UPON THE LATEST MACKEY BRIDGE SURVEY. 
          I HAVE READ OVER THE 2010 AND THE 2020 SURVEY REPORTS OF THE MACKEY BRIDGE. 
          AND I SEE THIS AS AN IDEAL REPAIR CASE, NOT A COMPLETE DEMOLITION. 
          THE PROJECT CAN MOSTLY BE DONE AT THE WATER LEVEL, UH, AND DOES NOT CREATE MAJOR TRAFFIC DISRUPTIONS, UH, AS WOULD THE COMPLETE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING BRIDGE. 
          HERE'S A CHART OF, UM, FROM ONE COMPANY OF ALL THE PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE DONE AROUND THE UNITED STATES. 
          THIS IS JUST ONE COMPANY'S LIST OF PROJECTS AND LOCATIONS FOR THESE KINDS OF REPAIRS. 
          I SUGGESTED, AS I SAID, THE TOWN AND COUNTY STAFF CONTACT THESE COMPANIES AND ASK FOR A ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE ESTIMATE BASED UPON THE MACKEY BRIDGE SURVEY. 
          THE, THE PROJECT CAN BE DONE AT THE, THE WATER LEVEL AND NOT BE A, A HUGE DISRUPTION OF, OF THE TRAFFIC. 
          THE COST SAVINGS COMPARED WITH A NEW BRIDGE COULD THEN BE APPLIED TO OTHER TWO LANE PROJECTS, OR YOU TALKED ABOUT A THREE LANE PROJECT EARLIER. 
          AND, UM, WOULD GET US TO A, HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AVAILABLE TO USE ON A A TWO LANE EXPRESS CONNECTOR TO THE CROSS ISLAND. 
          ALRIGHT, THANKS, MR. LONG, YOUR, YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          IF YOU WANNA LEAVE THAT ON THE EDGE OF THE, OF THE TABLE RIGHT THERE, THAT'D BE PERFECT. 
          OR GIVE IT TO MARK. 
          CHRISTOPHER CLIFF. 
          CHRISTOPHER CLIFF. 
          UM, UH, MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER CLIFF, 14 SAN FIDDLER. 
          UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT SINCE NOVEMBER, 2018. 
          MY WIFE SAID TO ME THE OTHER DAY, SHE SAID, YOU'LL BEGIN TO SOUND LIKE A TIRED, BROKEN RECORD. 
          SO I'M CHANGING MY SUBJECT MATTER TODAY. 
          IN FEBRUARY, 2022, PRESIDENT BIDEN WITHIN PENNSYLVANIA, HE MIGHT NOT HAVE KNOWN HE WAS THERE, BUT HE WAS THERE. 
          AND ON THAT SAME DAY, A BRIDGE COLLAPSED. 
          A BRIDGE THAT WAS RATED FOR OKAY, THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORT SAFETY BOARD. 
          AND THAT TOOK AN INVESTIGATION THAT REPORTED ON IT IN JANUARY, 2024. 
          AND THEY SET OUT SOME NEW GUIDELINES REGARDING INSPECTIONS. 
          UM, WHERE THE S-C-D-O-T HAS IS NOW FOLLOWING THOSE, UH, ENHANCED GUIDELINES. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'VE CERTAINLY NOT SEEN A LATEST REPORT ON THE EAST SPAN MACKAY BRIDGE. 
          NOW I'VE JUST HEARD OF THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, COMMENTS REGARDING THE DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE FROM MOSS CREEK TO HOG ISLAND. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. 
          YOU'VE GOT NO MORE STATUS IN THE DESIGN OF THAT BRIDGE THAN I HAVE NONE WHATSOEVER. 
          YOUR CONCERNS ARE ALL STARTING AFTER WINDMILL HARBOR AND WITHIN THE VICINITY OF HILTON HEAD TOWN. 
          YOU NEED TO GET OUTTA THE WAY AND YOU NEED TO LET SOUTH CAROLINA DEPART OF TRANSPORT MAKE THE EASTBOUND MACA CREEK SPAN SAFE. 
          'CAUSE IT CLEARLY ISN'T. 
          AND A LOT OF THE PUBLIC HAVE NO IDEA HOW SAFE OR UNSAFE IT ISN'T. 
          SO YOU NEED TO GET OUTTA THE WAY AND LEAVE THEM TO GET ON WITH IT. 
          AND I DUNNO WHAT THE DELAY IS IN SAYING YES AND WAIT UNTIL THE MARCH 31ST IS NONSENSICAL BECAUSE THE BRIDGE WILL NOT OF ITS OWN VOLITION IMPROVE, IT WILL FURTHER DETERIORATE. 
          SO THE CONCERN ABOUT SAFETY 
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INCREASES NOT LESSENS. 
          AND YOU COULD FIND YOURSELVES PERSONALLY VULNERABLE IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT. 
          YOU HAVE A DUTY OF CARE. 
          AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, YOU'RE BLOCKING, RESOLVING, UH, THE SOLUTION. 
          AND YOU NEED TO GET ON WITH IT AND GET OUTTA THE WAY. 
          SAY YES AND THEN SEPARATELY CONSIDER AS THE YES, YOU DO HAVE SUGGESTED THAT THE ON ISLAND IS A QUITE SEPARATE PROJECT FOR WHICH YOU MIGHT ALSO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN FUNDS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT PETER CHRISTIAN, MS. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL. 
          CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. D SIMONE. 
          MS. TUNER AND ALEX REELECTION. 
          WELCOME. 
          YOU GUYS NEED TO WORK TOGETHER. 
          YOU HAVE A LAUNCH 31ST DEADLINE. 
          DON'T WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE. 
          IT PUTS YOU AT A DISTINCT DISADVANTAGE. 
          GET THIS DONE AND GET IT DONE SOONER THAN LATER. 
          I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE THREE TRAVEL LANES, POSSIBLY ONE OF THEM REVERSIBLE. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE A NEW SPAN. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING BACKWARDS AT THIS POINT IS APPROPRIATE. 
          YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, EVACUATION, GETTING WORKFORCE ONTO THE ISLAND, AND THE BAD WORDS THAT SOME PEOPLE USE. 
          TOURISM THAT IS THE LIFE BLOOD OF THIS ISLAND AND GIVES US THE LIFESTYLE THAT WE ALL ENJOY AT A PRICE THAT WE CAN AFFORD IT. 
          MY BOARD PRESIDENT CARLTON DALLAS IS RIGHT THERE. 
          HILTON HEAD PLANTATION BOARD HAS SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. 
          THEY ARE THE LARGEST RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY ON THE ISLAND, AND IT'S AN OXYMORON THAT WE SUPPORT TOURISM, BUT WE KNOW WHAT TOURISM DOES FOR OUR PROPERTY OWNERS AS FAR AS THEIR TAX BASE. 
          SO PLEASE GET THIS DONE. 
          DON'T FIGHT AMONG YOURSELVES AND GET IT DONE SOONER THAN LATER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PETER OVENS FOUR. 
          NEXT MEETING. 
          SHERRY RE HELLO, MY NAME'S SHERRY. 
          MIKE AND I LIVE IN INDIGO RUN. 
          UH, A COUPLE THINGS I JUST WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, IT SOUNDS LIKE, AND I WANNA THANK SENATOR DAVIS FOR ALL THE WORK THAT HE HAS DONE. 
          SOUNDS LIKE HE REALLY HAD HIS ACT TOGETHER AND CAME TO US WITH A PLAN WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE NO PLAN AND WE'RE LIKE IN A STATE OF CHAOS. 
          WE, WE HAVE TO GET OVER THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T SPEND A PENNY OVER THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE. 
          I HAVE TO LIVE WITH MY BUDGET. 
          TOWN COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAKE SURE YOU, WE LIVE WITHIN OUR BUDGET. 
          I HEARD THE DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          I THINK A THREE LANE BRIDGE WITH TWO 10 FOOT SHOULDERS IS A HUGE SPAN. 
          I THINK THAT'S WAY, WAY TOO BIG. 
          I KIND OF LIKE THE TWO LANE WITH THE TWO 10 FOOT SHOULDERS OR MAYBE EVEN THREE LANES WITH ONE 10 FOOT SHOULDER FOR A BREAKDOWN. 
          WE DON'T NEED TWO BREAKDOWN LANES. 
          WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GONNA HAVE ALL THESE LANES COMING ONTO THE ISLAND AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE ALL THE WORK. 
          SO THREE LANES OR WHATEVER CAN COME ONTO THE ISLAND. 
          SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THAT. 
          I ALSO WANNA MENTION THAT, UH, REGARDING THE SECRET BEATING. 
          I DID READ ABOUT IT AND IT DID BOTHER ME GREATLY. 
          I READ MOST OF IT IN THE ISLAND PACKET. 
          I THINK THIS IS WHERE I GOT MOST OF THE INFORMATION. 
          IT SAID THAT ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE WERE INVITED BECAUSE IF A CERTAIN, IF IT WENT OVER THAT NUMBER, THEY HAD TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC NOTICE TO EVERYBODY AND THEY HAD TO DO MINUTES. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY LIMITED THE NUMBER. 
          NOT SURE IF IT'S TRUE OR NOT, IF THAT'S WHAT WAS UH, POSTED. 
          AND THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP, AND I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF OUR BRIDGE GOING TO THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY. 
          UM, IN OUR REG, IN YOUR REGULAR MEETING, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE US SPEAKING AT THE END. 
          LIKE AT THIS, I THINK YOU SHOULD HEAR OUR VOICES AND WHAT WE WANNA TALK ABOUT AND WHAT, WHAT, HOW WE WOULD WANT YOU TO VOTE BEFORE YOU VOTE, I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR US, THE RESIDENTS, TO LET YOU KNOW HOW WE FEEL AND HOW WE WANT YOU TO VOTE ON CERTAIN 
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ISSUES. 
          YOU WORK FOR US AND YOU NEED TO KNOW OUR OPINIONS AND OUR VIEWPOINTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I WANT TO THANK MR. ORLANDO. 
          EVERY TIME I HAPPEN TO WRITE LETTERS, HE ALWAYS RESPONDS AND I WANNA THANK HIM FOR THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, RICHARD. 
          BE  RICHARD, BUSY INDIGO RUN. 
          I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. 
          I'M NOT A TRANSPORTATION EXPERT. 
          I'M NOT A CONTRACTOR AND I AM NOT A POLITICIAN. 
          BUT I AM A 20 YEAR FULL-TIME RESIDENT OF HILTON AT ISLAND. 
          AND I, LIKE MANY OF YOU, CAME HERE 35 YEARS AGO AS A TOURIST AND FELL IN LOVE WITH THE ISLAND. 
          ITS NATURAL BEAUTY, OUTSTANDING BEACHES, AND FOR ME, WORLD-CLASS GOLF COURSES. 
          15 YEARS AFTER I FIRST CAME HERE, I MADE THE PERMANENT MOVE. 
          THE 2 78 PROJECT IS WHAT INSPIRED ME TO GET INVOLVED. 
          AND I JOINED THE TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THE TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP IS COMPRISED OF INDIVIDUALS WITH EXTENSIVE ENGINEERING BACKGROUNDS. 
          AND IN FACT, I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS NO BACKGROUND WHATSOEVER IN TECHNICAL ISSUES. 
          BUT I DO HAVE COMMON SENSE. 
          AND COMMON SENSE TELLS ME THAT HILTON HAS, DOES NOT NEED, NOR WANT A MASSIVE MONSTER BRIDGE AS THE GATEWAY TO OUR ISLAND. 
          AS YOU KNOW, MORE THAN 11,000 INDIVIDUALS HAVE SIGNED A PETITION URGING THE TOWN TO REJECT THE MEGA BRIDGE AND SIX LANE EXPRESSWAY FOR THE NORTH END OF THE ISLAND. 
          AND YET LAST YEAR, THE OLD TOWN COUNCIL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TAMMY BECKER, IGNORED THE PLEAS OF LOCAL RESIDENTS AND APPROVED A PROJECT WITH A PRICE TAG APPROACHING HALF A BILLION DOLLARS A PROJECT THAT WILL NOT WORK. 
          MAYOR PERRY HAS SAID THAT WITHOUT DATA, YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER PERSON WITH AN OPINION. 
          WHILE THE TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP HAS SHARED REAMS OF DATA WITH THE TOWN COUNCIL AND OTHERS CLEARLY SHOWING THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE PLANS THAT WILL ACTUALLY WORK TO REMOVE, REDUCE TRAFFIC CONGESTION WITHOUT SPENDING HALF A BILLION DOLLARS IN BUILDING A MONSTER BRIDGE. 
          WE NEED A SCALED BACK PROJECT. 
          MORE THAN 50% OF THE TRAFFIC COMING ONTO THE ISLAND ARE BOUND FOR THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY. 
          WE NEED A DIRECT LINK TO THAT CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY. 
          AND PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THIS COUNCIL SHOWING THAT. 
          AND THE CENTRAL QUESTION IS, WHAT WILL THIS SOMEWHAT NEW TOWN COUNCIL START TO CHANGE OUR PATH OR WILL WE CONTINUE TO SELL OUT OUR TOWN? ONE FINAL POINT, LET'S SOLVE THIS ISSUE WITHOUT ANY MORE SECRET MEETINGS WITH THE COUNTY COUNCIL. 
          COULD EVERYONE AGREE TO THAT? I WOULD HOPE SO. 
          COULD I HAVE A SHOW OF HANDS? I SEE TWO. 
          AND THE, AND THE MAYOR HAS SAID THAT THE FOCUS ON NEEDS TO BE ON ISLAND IMPROVEMENTS AND NOT THE BRIDGE. 
          BUT LET'S NOT FORGET THIS MONSTER BRIDGE AS IS CONTEMPLATED. 
          THAT'S THE VERY FIRST IMPRESSION OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          AND THE MEGA BRIDGE THAT'S PROPOSED IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND RESIDENCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. BUSY. 
          JOHN CASEY. 
          MR. CASEY, JOHN CASEY. 
          OKAY. 
          SKIP POLAND. 
          UH, SKIP POLAND, WINDMILL HARBOR, 50 YEAR RESIDENT AND TAMARA FOR MAYOR. 
          WE HAVE HEARD FROM MANY PROFESSIONALS. 
          MY TAKE ON EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD IS, IS A PROBLEM IS NOT CAUSED BY 45,000 RESIDENTS, IS CAUSED BY ALLOWING TOO MANY TOURISTS OVER 3 MILLION FOR THE CAPACITY OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR ROAD SYSTEM. 
          THE CHALLENGE NOW IS FINDING SOLUTIONS TO BALANCE TOURISM SO IT DOES NOT DISRUPT THE LIVES OF 45,000 RESIDENTS. 
          WE ALL MOVED HERE FOR LITTLE TRAFFIC AND A CLEAN, HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR FAMILIES AS WELL AS RETIRE TO ENJOY THE LAST YEARS OF OUR LIVES. 
          WE MOVED HERE FOR ISLAND LIFE, NOT A MYRTLE BEACH. 
          BIG CITY LIFE. 
          GOOGLE TOURISM ADVERSELY AFFECTS THE QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          READ ALL ABOUT IT. 
          WE NEED TO TAKE HARD ACTIONS, MORATORIUMS. WE NEED TO STAGGER DAYS FOR CHECK-IN AND CHECKOUT, ET CETERA. 
          EVERYONE. 
          SIX 
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POUNDS DOES NOT FIT IN A FIVE POUND BAG. 
          FURTHER, WE MUST STOP THIS COUNCIL FROM HANDING $7 MILLION PLUS OF OUR TAX MONEY TO PROMOTE UNNEEDED TOURISM BY THE HILTON NET BLUFFTON CHAMBER FOR ILLEGAL PROFITS, ILLEGAL TAX ISSUE AND MISUSE. 
          THIS MUST END, ESPECIALLY WHEN TOURISM IS DONE FOR FREE BY TECHNOLOGY, LOCAL SEARCH, SOCIAL MEDIA, ET CETERA. 
          TO THINK A CHAMBER ILLEGALLY OPERATED PROVIDES MORE TOURISM THAN FACEBOOK IS INSANITY. 
          HAVE YOU EVER BOOKED A HOTEL ROOM ON A CHAMBER WEBSITE? A BIG CITY BRIDGE CORRIDOR WOULD NOT SOLVE TRAFFIC. 
          IT'S SIMPLY, IT'S LIKE A STINT FOR YOUR HEART. 
          YOU HAVE THE SAME FOUR LANES ALL THE WAY FROM I 95 ENTERING THE STINT AND ADD TO THE STINT JUST TWO OR FOUR MORE LANE ROADS. 
          AND YOU'RE JUST SHIFTING TRAFFIC FROM THE NORTH END TO A SOUTH END, SOUTH END, DEAD END PLUS THE ROOT CAUSE TO ALL. 
          THIS WAS NO MASTER LAND PLAN DRAFTED 50 YEARS AGO FOR HILTON HAD BLUFFED AND HARDY AND BEAUFORT TO STOP THE DEVELOPERS AND OUR COMPROMISED COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYORS AND PERPETUITY TO STOP 'EM FROM FAVORING SPECIAL INTERESTS LIKE THE CHAMBERS, UH, PROFITS OVER 45,000 RESIDENTS INTEREST. 
          THE BIG CITY BRIDGE WAS THE LARGEST, UH, UH, UH, UH, INTEREST, UH, TAX SCAM IN BEAUFORT AND SOUTH CAROLINA HISTORY. 
          LET'S SCALE. 
          LET'S LOOK AT THE SCALED VERSION THAT TOM DAVIS, UH, UH, UH, PROPOSED TO US. 
          ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT VOTES IN FAVOR OF AN ILLEGALLY OPERATED CHAMBER OF SPECIAL INTEREST VERSUS 45,000 RESIDENTS SHOULD BE HELD LIABLE AND WILL CERTAINLY BE BOOTED AND DISLIKED IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          FOLKS, LET'S STOP THE DESTRUCTION TO THE CHARLES FRAZIER VISION. 
          JONI MITCHELL'S SONG, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GOT TILL IT'S GONE. 
          STOP 10 POUNDS IN A FIVE POUND BAG. 
          STOP. 
          MORE DESTRUCTION TO OUR ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND LET'S STOP. 
          PERRY, THIS TOWN LAWYERS AND TOWN MANAGER WHO HAVE BEEN CAUGHT COMMITTING CRIMINAL FRAUD. 
          THEY MUST BE INVESTIGATED. 
          THEY MUST BE REMOVED FROM PUBLIC OFFICE AND PROSECUTED. 
          AND MR. ORLANDO, THE MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION OF SOUTH CAROLINA, THE TRADE ASSOCIATION. 
          IT HAS NO OFFICIAL CAPACITY WHATSOEVER. 
          THANK YOU MR. HOAGLAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MARK KANO. 
          MARK KANO, GRAY SMITH, GRAY SMITH INDIGO RUN. 
          I HAD SOME PREPARED REMARKS, BUT UH, I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THEM, UH, BECAUSE OF WHAT'S TRANSPIRED HERE TODAY, WHICH IS GREATLY ENCOURAGED ME. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO AGAIN THANK SENATOR DAVIS FOR DOING ALL OF HIS DUE DILIGENCE SINCE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT IN 2018. 
          AND, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE HIM COMING TO THIS MEETING TODAY. 
          AND REALISTICALLY, UH, EXPOSING WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH EXISTING FUNDS AND STOP LOOKING FOR THE FUNDS TO BUILD THE MONSTER BRIDGE. 
          I I ALSO, ALTHOUGH, UH, BY REGULATION, I NEED TO ADDRESS YOU, I'M ALSO ADDRESSING ALL OF MY FELLOW RESIDENTS THAT ARE SITTING BEHIND ME, SITTING OR STANDING BEHIND ME. 
          I WANT TO THANK THEM BECAUSE I THINK WORKING TOGETHER AND WITH TAMMY, UH, WE HAVE OFFICIALLY STUCK A FORK IN THE MEGA BRIDGE. 
          AND I REALLY WANNA THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE VOICED THEIR CONCERNS TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE TOWN, UH, COUNTY COUNCIL, AND ALSO, UM, UH, THE TWO WAYS. 
          THERE'S REALLY THREE, BUT I'M ONLY GONNA ADDRESS TWO. 
          THE TWO WAYS THAT I THINK THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE DELIVERED. 
          THREE STRIKES THAT LED TO, UH, THE, UM, FINALITY OF GETTING RID OF THE MONSTER BRIDGE. 
          NUMBER ONE WAS A PETITION SPECIFICALLY OPPOSED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS OUTSCALE BRIDGE THAT HAS NOW BEEN SIGNED BY MORE THAN 11,600 RESIDENTS. 
          UH, UM, THE SECOND ONE IS, UM, AND, AND THIS IS THE WORDS OF THE, UH, OF A, A TOWN OF, UH, EXCUSE ME, A COUNTY OFFICIAL, UH, I'M SORRY, STATE OFFICIAL, UH, TO THESE BODIES THAT SAID THAT THE REFERENDUM, THE TAX REFERENDUM WAS QUOTE, ROUNDLY DEFEATED. 
          I THINK THAT WAS A BRILLIANT EXPRESSION ON THE PART OF WE, THE RESIDENTS THAT KNOW WE DON'T WANT THE 11 LANE SINGLE SLAB, UH, SUPERHIGHWAY BRIDGE AS THE ENTRANCE TO OUR BEAUTIFUL ISLAND. 
          SO I WANT TO, UH, 
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THANK OUR, OUR RESIDENTS. 
          AND NOW I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR HEARING, UH, THE RESIDENTS AND HEARING SENATOR DAVIS. 
          AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, WORKING WITH YOU AND BEING INVOLVED AND WORKING TO ARRIVE AT AN ENTRANCE TO THEIR ISLAND THAT'S IN SCALE, UH, THAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE IN SOLVING THE PEAK TRAFFIC FLOW PROBLEMS. AND, UM, UH, JUST CONTRIBUTE TO THE FUTURE, THE BRIGHT FUTURE OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TERRY HERRON. 
          TERRY HERRON. 
          I'LL PASS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          FRANK BABEL. 
          MY NAME IS FRANK BABEL. 
          I'M A BIKE ADVOCATE. 
          FIRST OF ALL, THANKS TO TOM AND WELCOME TO THE NEW PEOPLE HERE, AND WELCOME TO YOU FOLKS FOR BEING HERE AS WELL. 
          AND THANKS TO THE STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE. 
          THEY'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. 
          FOLKS OVER HERE IN PARTICULAR, UH, WHAT YOU, MANY OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT THERE IS A MASTER PLAN FOR BYED ON, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY ALL THE TOWNS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, BY BEAUFORT COUNTY, AND BY LATS. 
          ONE OF ITS MAJOR COMPONENTS IS CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND THE MAINLAND. 
          THAT WAS A PART OF THE KEY DESIGN FEATURES THAT, UH, A NUMBER OF US WERE A PART OF. 
          THE FIRST COMMITTEE HAD IN DESIGN INTO THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM WAS CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE MAINLAND AND HILTON HEAD ISLAND, AND DID A GREAT JOB, WE THINK, AND IT LASTED FOR FIVE YEARS, BUT APPEARS THAT THE ERASER HAS ARRIVED AND IT APPEARS THAT IN INTEREST OF COST, THE NICE SAFE FEATURES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED ARE PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE THERE. 
          SO I RAISED WITH YOU THE ISSUE. 
          WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? THINK ABOUT IT. 
          THINK ABOUT PEOPLE GOING OVER THAT BRIDGE, THE TWO LANE THING THAT IS SUICIDAL. 
          WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO CAUSEWAYS ON BOTH SIDES. 
          HOW ARE WE GONNA HANDLE SAFELY BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS GOING OVER, WE HAVE E-BIKES COMING ON THE SCENE IN MASS. 
          WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING OVER, WE HAVE LOTS OF FOLKS THAT WANT TO GO TO PINCKNEY ISLAND AND WE HAVE 20 TO 30 TO 40,000 BIKERS A DAY ON OUR ISLAND, AND THEY'RE INCREASING ON THE, UH, ON THE MAINLAND. 
          HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THEM BETWEEN THE MAINLAND AND PINKNEY ISLAND AND HILTON HEAD ISLAND? ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE DOING DOWN SOUTH IS THEY'RE COMBINING ONE OF THE BREAKDOWN LANES INTO A TWO-WAY LANE WITH PROTECTED, UH, FEATURES. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER. 
          IT'S A TWO-WAY ADDRESS TO GO ON THE MAIN LEAN. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. 
          SO PLEASE GIVE US THOUGHT. 
          IT'S ALL ABOUT SAFETY. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO KILL PEOPLE OUT THERE. 
          AND BY GOD, SOME OF THESE TOURISTS, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. 
          THEY GET IN A BIKE AND THEY GET OUT THERE. 
          LET'S GO TO PINK ISLAND AND THEY'RE GONNA GET KILLED. 
          UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING REALLY SMART LIKE WE HAVE DONE, AND WE PROBABLY ARE GONNA HAVE NOT TO DO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING REALLY CLEVER NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO FOR US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          SO NOW, UM, WE WILL THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          UH, WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, NON AGENDA ITEMS. KIM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? WE DO NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE, THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU ALL. 
          MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          SO MOVED. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          SECOND FIVE RAISING RIGHT HAND. 
          WE ARE ADJOURN. 
          JOE, GOOD TO SEE YOU DALE. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU. 
          TO SEE YOU. 
          SHERIFF. 
          UH, I WE'RE, WE'VE GOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO TALK ABOUT IN A ALL OF THIS IN A 
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VERY SMALL KIND OF PRESENTATION TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER, UH, WE STARTED WORKING ON A NEW SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER OPPORTUNITY LAST YEAR. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE KNEW, AND WE HAVE KNOWN THAT TRYING TO RECRUIT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO BE CLASS ONE CERTIFIED, WHICH IS WHAT THE STATE REQUIRED. 
          YES. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, TO BE IN OUR SCHOOLS AS SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, WHICH ARE, IS, IS A SPECIAL, I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THAT IS REALLY A SPECIAL CANDIDATE, UH, THAT WE CONSIDER TO BE THAT CLOSE IN ASSOCIATION TO OUR KIDS. 
          YES. 
          UM, AND, BUT WE KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY FACTORS IT CREATES, NOT ONLY IN OUR SCHOOLS, BUT WITH OUR, WITH OUR COMMUNITIES AS WELL. 
          BECAUSE THE SCHOOL IS A MELTING POT OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE. 
          SO HAVING THAT RIGHT PERSON IN THAT JOB AND THAT ROLE TO PROVIDE SECURITY TO OUR KIDS LEADERSHIP, TO OUR KIDS, UH, AND GIVING THE CONFIDENCE TO THE STAFF TO WORK IN THE SCHOOLS. 
          I MEAN, IT'S IMPORTANT TO FIND THAT RIGHT PERSON. 
          SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND A CLASS ONE OR A CLASS ONE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, IS ONE THAT GOES TO THE ACADEMY FOR 12 WEEKS, SPENDS 12 WEEKS FOR THE MOST PART IN COLUMBIA. 
          WE DO SOME OF THE TRAINING HERE LOCALLY, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, HAS TO BE DONE IN COLUMBIA. 
          AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT TO BE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS THAT REALLY DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR LIFE AND THEIR FAMILY TO GO TO COLUMBIA AND GO THROUGH BOOTCAMP TO BE A CLASS ONE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. 
          SO I HAD OUR TRAINING STAFF PUT TOGETHER A TRAINING SYLLABUS FOR A, WHAT WE CALL A CLASS THREE. 
          UH, AND IT WAS A CLASS THREE DESIGNATION FOR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER. 
          WHAT THAT DID IS IT ALLOWED US TO CREATE A TRAINING SYLLABUS THAT WE COULD TAKE A PERSON, UM, YOU KNOW, OF, OF ANY AGE, AND THAT WE WOULD BRING THEM INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW, WITH BLUFFTON OR BEAUFORT OR PORT ROYAL OR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          UH, AND WE WOULD TRAIN THEM HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          ALL OF THEIR TRAINING WOULD BE DONE RIGHT HERE. 
          UH, IT WOULD BE EIGHT WEEKS, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE THAN EIGHT WEEKS OF TRAINING. 
          UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO START THIS, UH, OUR FIRST CLASS. 
          WE'D LIKE TO START IT IN JUNE. 
          UH, THAT WAY WE CAN GET 'EM THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND BE READY FOR DEPLOYMENT, UH, WHEN SCHOOL STARTS IN AUGUST. 
          UH, I, I THINK IT'S AN AWESOME PROGRAM. 
          WE, WE, WE SENT THE TRAINING SYLLABUS TO THE ACADEMY THAT TRAINS ALL OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT IN SOUTH CAROLINA. 
          THEY APPROVED IT, UH, WITH THE BLESSING OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA TRAINING COUNCIL. 
          SO WE ARE READY TO GET THIS THING MOVING AND GET IT STARTED. 
          AND I THINK FOR US, UH, WE JUST NEED TO KIND OF TELL OUR CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE WE LOOKING FOR? UH, THE ROLE IS SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER. 
          IT'S A CLASS THREE LAW ENFORCEMENT DESIGNATION. 
          UH, IT'S A UNIFORM POSITION, IT'S AN ARMED POSITION. 
          UH, THEY HAVE ARREST POWERS, UH, AND THEY HAVE ALL THE POWERS OF ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ON THE SCHOOL GROUNDS, UH, THAT THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO. 
          SO WHAT DO YOU THINK, JOE, SHERIFF? I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING LEAD ON THIS. 
          UM, WE HAVE FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN BLUFFTON THAT CURRENTLY ARE NOT STAFFED BY CLASS THREE OR HIGHER OFFICERS. 
          AND I THINK THAT THIS PROGRAM IS GONNA ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THESE POSITIONS AND IT'S GONNA PROVIDE MORE OF A SECURITY BLANKET FOR OUR SCHOOLS TO INCLUDE OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. 
          SO WE'RE DEFINITELY EXCITED ABOUT IT. 
          WE'RE EXCITED TO BE PART OF IT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          DALE. 
          WHO, WHO DO WE WANT TO ATTRACT? I THINK WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOT AN ENORMOUS NUMBER OF RETIRED MILITARY FOLKS HERE MM-HMM . 
          THAT ARE ABLE TO RETIRE FAIRLY YOUNG AND MAY BE LOOKING FOR THAT JOB. 
          THEY MAY HAVE CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOLS AND WITH THE, WITH THE PROGRAM THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER. 
          UM, THEY'LL BE HOME WHEN THEIR CHILDREN ARE HOME, NOT IN SCHOOL. 
          AND, UM, AND I'VE ALWAYS SAID, YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, SHERIFF, WE, WE NEED TO GET INTO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IF WE, IF WE WAITED UNTIL HIGH SCHOOLS WERE TOO LATE. 
          SO I, IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. 
          I'M, I'M GLAD THAT YOU TOOK THE LEAD ON IT. 
          UM, I'M EXCITED TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME PEOPLE IN, BUT I REALLY THINK THE YOUNG RETIRED MILITARY PEOPLE OR THEY'RE JUST MADE FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE GONE THROUGHOUT OUR CAREERS, UH, IN THE COUNTY OF BEAUFORT AND WE'VE HAD CONVERSATION AFTER CONVERSATION WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M RETIRED, I'D LIKE TO FIND SOMETHING TO DO. 
          AND THEN YOU START TALKING TO 'EM AND THEY'RE RETIRED TEACHER OR RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT, RETIRED FIRE DEPARTMENT, RETIRED MILITARY, RETIRED BANKERS, RETIRED, I MEAN, RETIRED, THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER. 
          THEY'RE STILL, STILL AT AN AGE THAT THEY COULD, UM, THEY, THEY COULD DO THIS JOB WITH NO PROBLEM AT ALL OF ANY KIND. 
          UM, AND 
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THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE. 
          YES, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, THOSE THAT ARE STILL, THEY STILL FEEL LIKE THEY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE THAT MAYBE HAVE ALWAYS LOOKED AT LAW ENFORCEMENT AS BEING A JOB, BUT BECAUSE OF THE PAY AND BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE WORKING CONDITIONS AND FAMILIES AND, AND ALL THAT, THEY JUST DIDN'T WANNA DO IT. 
          BUT HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO MAKE $45,000 A YEAR STARTING PAY TO WORK BASICALLY THE SCHEDULE OF THE TEACHING AND SUPPORT STAFF OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD SCHEDULE. 
          IT IS, UH, TO HAVE BENEFITS, UH, TO BE IN THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND TO BE ABLE TO BRING THEIR MATURITY, UH, THEIR LIFE EXPERIENCE AND, AND YOU KNOW, TO TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE KIDS WHO WILL BENEFIT GREATLY FROM JUST HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SOCIALIZE AND BE AROUND, UH, THESE FOLKS THAT BRING A LOT TO THE TABLE. 
          AND I, WE, IN OUR COMMUNITIES, YOU TAKE BLUFFTON AND BEAUFORT AND, AND IN THE COUNTY AND THEN IN PORT ROYAL, THOSE PEOPLE ARE HERE. 
          THEY ARE. 
          AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THINGS TO DO. 
          AND I JUST THINK THIS IS AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO, YOU KNOW WHAT, JUST DO IT KINDA LIKE NIKE. 
          LET'S JUST DO IT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, THE TRAINING IS, I THINK THEY'LL ENJOY THE TRAINING. 
          AGAIN, IT'S ALL DONE RIGHT HERE. 
          THEY, THEY'LL STAY AT HOME, THEY'LL SLEEP IN THEIR OWN BED, THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN PILLOW, AND THEN THEY CAN COME TO TRAINING AND ONCE THEY'RE CERTIFIED, UH, THEN THEY'LL START THE SCHOOL YEAR, UH, AUGUST OF THIS YEAR. 
          SO, I MEAN, I KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY REPRESENTS THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. 
          YES. 
          YOU KNOW, SO WHAT ELSE, WHAT ELSE DO YOU THINK THIS, UM, THIS PROGRAM'S GONNA DO IN TOTALITY FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? I THINK, I THINK THIS PROGRAM, ONE WILL BE ABLE TO GET US OVER THE TOP. 
          I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET A POLICE OFFICER IN EVERY SCHOOL IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, WHICH IS IMPORTANT. 
          A POLICE OFFICER AND I, AND I, AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF TRAINING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS JOB. 
          THERE IS, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A SECURITY OFFICER. 
          NO. 
          THIS IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE WELL TRAINED, UH, IN THIS. 
          AND I, I THINK THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 
          AND I THINK WITH THE YOUNG CHILDREN TARGETING THE RETIREES MM-HMM . 
          WHETHER THEY'RE RETIRED TEACHERS, RETIRED MILITARY IS IMPORTANT. 
          THEY'VE GOT THE LIFE EXPERIENCE FOR THE, FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. 
          AND, AND TO GET THAT STARTED OFF. 
          SO , HOW, HOW MANY, HOW MANY OPENINGS DO YOU HAVE FOR THIS PROGRAM? FOR THIS PROGRAM, WE, WE ONLY HAVE TWO CURRENTLY. 
          POSSIBLY A THIRD COMING ON BOARD. 
          I'VE GOT NINE JOE, I HAVE FOUR. 
          SO I MEAN, IN TOTAL, AND HERE'S THE THING. 
          IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU WORK AT THE CITY OF BEAUFORT OR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, UH, OR PORT ROYAL OR FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WANT YOU TO COME TO WORK YES. 
          IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, TO BE A CLASS THREE SRO. 
          DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU GO, DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE EMPLOYED BY. 
          THE PAY IS GONNA BE THE SAME. 
          THE WORK ENVIRONMENT'S BASICALLY THE SAME. 
          THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENCE IN UNIFORM THAT YOU WEAR AT THE SCHOOL THAT YOU'RE ASSIGNED TO, UH, THE PAY. 
          I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE BASICALLY THE SAME. 
          SO ALL WE WANT PEOPLE TO DO IS PUT THEIR APPLICATIONS IN, GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM IN DETAIL. 
          AND IF YOU REALLY HAVE AN INTEREST IN IT, UH, THEN LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GET STARTED. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK, JOE? YEAH. 
          AND, AND ONE THING THAT I WANT TO HIT ON IS THIS PROGRAM IS IMPORTANT AND, AND REASON BEING IS NONE OF OUR KIDS SHOULD FEEL AFRAID GOING TO SCHOOL. 
          UM, THEY SHOULD BE GOING TO SCHOOL TO LEARN AND NOT WORRYING ABOUT THEIR SAFETY. 
          UM, AND WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS PROVIDES ANOTHER LAYER OF SAFETY FOR ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS, ESPECIALLY THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. 
          UM, IT ALSO PROVIDES PEOPLE WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO MENTOR THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN MM-HMM . 
          UH, AS THEY'RE COMING UP THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. 
          AND SO, LIKE THE SHERIFF SAID, IF YOU TRULY WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, UH, THIS IS A POSITION THAT YOU WILL REALLY WILL BE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. 
          I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. 
          I JUST HOPE THE APPLICATION START POURING IN. 
          AND IF YOU GET MORE THAN, THAN YOU NEED THEN AND, AND WE NEED TO GO TO BEAUFORT OR WE NEED TO GO TO, UH, THE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR, OR PORT ROYAL, WE JUST NEED, WE NEED TO PUT THESE PEOPLE TO WORK. 
          WE NEED TO FILL THESE VACANCIES, UH, AND LET'S MAKE OUR SCHOOLS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AS SAFE AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I THINK THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS PROGRAM, THESE OFFICERS WILL BE TRAINED BY PEOPLE THAT HAVE CHILDREN IN THESE SCHOOLS. 
          THEY HAVE THE SAME DESIRES, THE OUTCOMES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          SO I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. 
          WELL, I MEAN, THE GREAT THING ABOUT IT IS THAT WE ARE, WE WILL BE DOING THE TRAINING TOGETHER. 
          YES. 
          IF YOU GET, IF YOU GET, IF YOU HIRE ONE OR TWO AND YOU HIRE FOUR AND YOU KNOW, AND I CAN FILL THE NINE THAT WE NEED, WE'RE ALL GONNA BE TRAINING TOGETHER. 
          YES. 
          SO THIS IS GONNA BE ONE TRAINING SYLLABUS TO BENEFIT, UH, THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM. 
          I MEAN, THIS 
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IS GOING TO BE, THIS, THIS PROGRAM IS FOR SOUTH CAROLINA AS A WHOLE. 
          THIS IS NOT JUST FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          BUT I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE GOING TO START THIS AND INITIATE, YOU KNOW, THE SRO CLASS THREE POSITION HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA SHOW THE STATE IT WORKS. 
          AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE TRAINING TOGETHER, SHERIFF, IS YOU'RE CREATING A NETWORK BEFORE YOU EVEN GET STARTED. 
          SO YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT SCHOOLS WHERE IF YOU CAN RUN INTO A PROBLEM, YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT YOU CAN CALL AND GET SOME ADVICE OR TALK TO THEM ABOUT THINGS GOING ON IN THEIR SCHOOL AND CURRENT TRENDS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THEIR SCHOOL. 
          SO IT'S A GREAT COLLABORATION OF ALL THREE DEPARTMENTS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY GETTING TOGETHER, BECAUSE HAVING THAT NETWORK AND PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN RELY ON FOR ADDITIONAL ADVICE IS INVALUABLE. 
          WELL, I TELL YOU WHAT, I MEAN, I WANT, I WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO, TO MAKE THOSE PHONE CALLS OR GO ONLINE AND RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST THE, THE, THE CLASS THREE SRO, UH, THROUGH ALL AGENCIES. 
          SO I THINK LINDSEY, IF WE CAN, I MEAN AT THIS POINT, I THINK IF WE PUT THAT INFORMATION ON THIS VIDEO FOR BLUFFTON, BEAUFORT, PORT ROYAL, AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WEBPAGE AND PHONE NUMBERS, UH, I THINK WE'LL HOPEFULLY WE'LL START GETTING CALLS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT SOUND GOOD TO Y'ALL? YES, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S GET IT DONE. 
          HI EVERYONE. 
          I'M MARIA WALLS, YOUR BEAUFORT COUNTY TREASURER. 
          IF YOU'VE EVER WONDERED WHAT'S E-BILLING OR MY BEAUFORT COUNTY, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A SNEAK PEEK BECAUSE MY BEAUFORT COUNTY IS YOUR ONE STOP LOCATION ONLINE TO MANAGE AND PAY YOUR BEAUFORT COUNTY PROPERTY TAX BILLS. 
          SIMPLY TYPE IN MY BEAUFORT COUNTY.COM OR DOWNLOAD THE APP IN THE APP STORE AND YOU'LL CONTINUE TO LOG IN. 
          SO HERE YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE AS A GUEST. 
          IF YOU DON'T WANNA CREATE AN ACCOUNT OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CREATE AN ACCOUNT, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP FOR E-BILLING, STORE YOUR PAYMENT INFORMATION, AND MANAGE ALL OF YOUR TAX BILLS FROM A SIMPLE DASHBOARD SCREEN. 
          TO MANAGE YOUR PROPERTY ACCOUNTS IN YOUR DASHBOARD, SIMPLY CLICK LINK ACCOUNT AND TALK TO TAX BOTT WHO IS HAPPY TO ASSIST YOU IN SIGNING YOU UP. 
          YOU CAN SEARCH FOR A PROPERTY BY YOUR PIN, WHICH IS YOUR PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER, YOUR A IN, YOUR ALTERNATE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER, OR SIMPLY USING AN OWNER'S LAST NAME AND MAILING ZIP CODE. 
          ONCE YOU'VE SEARCHED, GO AHEAD AND SELECT THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASSOCIATE WITH YOUR PROFILE. 
          YOU CAN EITHER CHOOSE TO KEEP GOING OR LET TAX BOT KNOW THAT YOU'RE FINISHED BY PAYING YOUR TAXES, FINDING ANOTHER PROPERTY, OR SIMPLY GOING BACK TO THE DASHBOARD. 
          IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SIGN UP FOR E-BILLING, YOU CAN DO THAT BY CLICKING MANAGE E-BILLING AND SIGN UP EACH PROPERTY TO RECEIVE YOUR BILL ELECTRONICALLY. 
          WANNA KNOW WHERE YOUR PAYMENT INFORMATION IS STORED OR YOUR RECEIPT? GO AHEAD AND CLICK YOUR WALLET IN THE WALLET. 
          EACH RECEIPT YOU'VE PAID ONLINE IS AVAILABLE FOR OBSERVATION, DOWNLOAD AND PRINTING RIGHT HERE. 
          NEED TO UPDATE YOUR PROFILE. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          SIMPLY CLICK THE ICON IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER AND YOU CAN UPDATE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION AND MANAGE YOUR PAYMENT METHODS. 
          AN ADDED BONUS WHEN YOU USE AN ECHECK TO PAY ON BUFORT COUNTY, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COSTS. 
          YOU HAVE YOUR BILL AND YOUR ELECTRONIC RECEIPT ALL IN ONE LOCATION AND AT YOUR FINGERTIPS, WHATEVER YOU NEED IT. 
          IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT USING MY BEAUFORT COUNTY OR TAXES IN GENERAL, PLEASE CALL MY FRIENDLY STAFF AND I AT 8 4 3 2 5 5 2 6 0 0. 
          OR YOU CAN VISIT US@BEAUFORTCOUNTYTREASURE.COM.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.