[I. CALL TO ORDER]
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CARE. THIS IS A CALL TO ORDER FOR THE JANUARY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING IS WEDNESDAY JANUARY 8TH 6 P.M. AND GET A ROPE PLEASE.
SARAH GOODWIN HERE VICE CHAIRMAN JOE PARK HERE WE ARE LISA FRAZIER COMMISSIONER JIM HAS COMMISSIONER TIM GROUPSER COMMISSIONER DEBBIE WONDER AND NOTICE READING REGARDING GERMAN
[III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT]
THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION WILL NOT HEAR NEW ITEMS YOU BEAM UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT ITEMS WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD BEFORE 9:30 P.M. MAYBE CONTINUED IN THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OR SPECIAL MEETING DATE[IV. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
IS DETERMINED THE COMMISSION MEMBERS I'M LOOKING FOR ADOPTION THE MINUTES DO WE HAVE A MOTION SO I HAVE A SECOND AGENDA DISCUSSION ON FAVOR II AND ANY OPPOSED THE MINUTES ARE[VI.1. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Clear Cut Construction, on behalf of the owner, William Glover, for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness-HD to allow the construction of a new two-story Single-Family Residential structure of approximately 2,874 SF and an attached Carriage House of approximately 1,100 SF located at 34 Tabby Shell Road, Lot 18 of the Tabby Roads Development, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-Historic District. (COFA-03-24-019047) (Staff - Charlotte Moore)]
ADOPTED AS WRITTEN. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY LET'S MOVE TO OLD BUSINESS. WE HAVE ONE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATE.GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY YEAR. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM 34 AND TABBY SHALL AS CONTINUED FROM THE NOVEMBER MEETING TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME REVISIONS. THE APPLICANT IS SEA ISLAND CONSTRUCTION GROUP ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER WILLIAM AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW TWO STOREY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE APPROXIMATELY 2864 SQUARE FEET AND AN AND AND AND AND ATTACHED IS STOREY CARRIAGE AND APPROXIMATELY 1100 SQUARE FEET THE IS LOCATED AT 34 TABBY SHELL LOT 18 AND TABBY ROADS DEVELOPMENT AND A ZONE NEIGHBORHOODS I'LL BE HERE YOU SEE THE PROPERTY IT'S CLOSE TO THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT NEAR POND CHURCH ROAD AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS WOODED AND HERE IS THE SITE PLAN TO ABBEY ROAD HERE AT THE TOP AND HERE IS A VIEW AND I'LL GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THEM THE FRONT VIEW THE LEFT VIEW THE REAR VIEW FROM THE ALLEY THE INTERIOR OF THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND THE CARRIAGE HOUSE THE VIEW OF THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BUILDING ROOF PLAN BUILDING SECTION FOUNDATION PLAN AS WELL AS THE FLOOR PLANS WALL SECTIONS IF WE NEED TO SEE A DOOR AND WINDOW DETAILS AND THE REVIEW CRITERIA SO ALL OF THE REVIEW CRITERIA APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN MET FOR THE ITEMS THAT I'M ABOUT TO GO OVER AND WE CAN KIND OF BOUNCE BACK TO THE SLIDES THAT WE NEED TO SEE. SO BASED ON WHAT WAS RESUBMITTED THERE ARE SOME DETAIL ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO EXAMPLE OF ONE BASICALLY IDENTIFYING TYPE OF THE TABBY STUCCO OR WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE A STUCCO WITH A SAND OR STILL TRAIL FINISH THAT TO BE IDENTIFIED ON THE PLANS WE ASKED FOR A SCHEDULE TO IDENTIFY THE TYPES OF MATERIALS IT WILL BE PROPOSED FOR THE DOOR WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL COLUMN DETAIL. WHAT WAS PRESENTED WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO READ ADDITIONALLY PROVIDE BRACKET DETAILS FOR THE CARRIAGE HOUSE EYEBROW ROOF AND SHARE THE BRACKET MATERIAL THAT IS COMMON TO THE BLUFFTON VERNACULAR. AND LET ME BACK UP TO THAT I DID NOT THAT ON THE PLANS AND SEE THE BRACKET DETAIL HERE IN THE BACK OVER THE GARAGE IDENTIFY THE TYPE OF STANDING SEAM METAL TO BE USED TO GATHER MATERIAL PROVIDE THE SERVICE YARD DETAILS IN SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE PANELS WE LIKE TO SEE THAT THE 75% TREE CANOPY COVERAGE IS BEING PROVIDED SO THAT WILL NEED TO BE SHOWN ON THAT FINAL SUBMISSION IF THE COFA IS APPROVED TONIGHT AS WELL AS THE TREES TO BE REMOVED.
I DID IDENTIFY SOME THINGS I THOUGHT WE NEEDED A DETERMINATION ON.
THEY INCLUDE THE ONE FOOT INSET FOR THE WALL CONNECTING THE MAIN STRUCTURE TO THE CARRIAGE . I GO BACK TO THAT THAT HARDY BOARD IS AN APPROPRIATE CLADDING MATERIAL FOR THE COLUMNS IT'S NOT IDENTIFIED AS BEING PERMITTED BY THE UDA AND ALSO A DETERMINATION THAT THE POWDER COATED STEEL PROPOSED IS INAPPROPRIATE AND APPROPRIATE MATERIAL FOR THE SECOND FLOOR PORCH RAILING AND LET ME GO BACK TO AND YOU CAN SEE HERE IN
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THE PORCH RAILING NEXT TO FRONT ELEVATION SO WE CAN SEE THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER IT'S THERE AND CAN IDENTIFY AND AFTER AS I WAS PUTTING THIS TOGETHER I DID NOTICE LOOKING AT THE WINDOW THAT IT APPEARED THAT THE WINDOWS THAT I IDENTIFIED HERE IN RED APPEAR TO BE AWNING AND I THINK MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO BUT OTHER THAN THAT THAT PRETTY MUCH IS MY PRESENTATION YOU CAN CHOOSE TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF YOU CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OR YOU CAN DENY WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF THERE WAS AN APPLICATION IN THE PACKET BUT PAGE THREE OF THE APPLICATION THAT WAS THERE COPIES AND THERE WAS A RED TOP THAT ONE WAS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER. I DIDN'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCES.WAS THAT UNINTENDED? I WENT YES IT WAS AND I I'M SORRY I'M TRYING TO RECALL IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A NUMBER CHANGE. THERE WAS SOMETHING IT WAS VERY SLIGHT THING BUT AS FAR AS ALL THE SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU CHECKED THAT CORRECT? I HAVE A IN THE COMMENTS YOUR COMMENTS A COUPLE OF THEM WERE IN BLUE.
DID THAT INDICATE ANYTHING SEPARATE FROM IN BLUE? DO YOU MEAN THAT I JUST WENT OVER YEAH. YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS? YEAH.
THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT I FOCUSED ON. I DIDN'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR INTO THE DETAILS OF MATERIALS. THOSE WERE KIND OF STANDARD THINGS THAT WE INCLUDE AND I'LL PROBABLY MORE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE AND I YOU KNOW THE QUESTION FOR SIR OF COURSE IS FOR THE APPLICANT IT DOES THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT AT ALL AND WE WILL GRAB AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT WE MADE A LIST OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED LAST TIME AND I THINK WE HAVE ADDRESSED OF THEM. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME I'M SORRY GRAHAM AND PRESTON GLOVER AND YOU ARE THE OTHER OR THE APPLICANT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS. GO TO THE WHOLE SECTION IT SAYS ON THERE IF YOU CAN KIND OF OPEN THE PORCH THAT IT'S THE DECKING WHAT IS YOUR I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE WATERPROOFING DECKING THERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S WOOD THAT'S ON PLYWOOD DECKING MATERIAL APPLIED TO PLYWOOD I CAN'T SEE ON THIS COMPUTER I'M SORRY HE THAT UP IT'S KIND OF A MIDDLE IT'S SO GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO READ SOME OF WHICH WHICH ONE IS IT IS THE MIDDLE YEAH GO UP SO THE SECOND FLOOR RIGHT THERE THE MIDDLE ONE YEAH.
CAN YOU ZOOM IN AND YOU SEE IN THAT WRITING OR IS THAT GOING TO BE PIXILATED AND YOU SEE YEAH YEAH. FURTHER ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL UP THE THE ACTUAL PLAN THAT RIGHT AM OR POINT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET TO IT CAN I GET TO IT FROM YOUR CARRY DO YOU THINK I WAS THAT IN AND YEAH YEAH OKAY I SO WE ARE WE HAVE THE PLANS HERE AS WELL JUST LOOKING AT THAT DETAIL IT'S CALLED OUT AS FIVE QUARTER DECKING ON TOP OF THREE QUARTER INCH AND ROOF PLYWOOD DECKING GLUE AND SCREW . SO I THINK TIM'S QUESTION IS THERE'S A LOT OF BANDING GOING ON THERE AND THAT'S AN ODD WAY TO DO THE WATERPROOFING AND WOULD POTENTIALLY IF YOU PUT IT ON SLEEPERS OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY AFFECT SO YEAH THAT I MEAN ONE YOU'LL HAVE YOU'LL HAVE A YOU GOT TO CREATE TO CREATE THAT SO THAT WOULD BE ONE SWEEPER AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER SWEEPER ON TOP OF THAT.
SO THE CAN DRAIN IN BETWEEN IT. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT THAT THEN YOU'LL GET REALLY TALL BECAUSE THERE'S MORE DEPTH IN THERE THAT ONCE WAS SHOWING THERE'S AMAZON YEAH YEAH TO BE HONEST WITH YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT MUCH ABOUT THAT I KNEW WE WERE GOING TO DO IT.
WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DO A WATERPROOF MEMBRANE THERE. I DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF WE WERE GOING TO BE DOING DECKING ON TOP OF THAT OR JUST LEAVING IT A MEMBRANE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT HE'S GOT IN THE PLANS. IT'S CALLED AND I THINK IT
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NEEDS TO BE DONE YOU KNOW THINKING B I MEAN I MEAN I THINK IT WOULD BE UNEXPECTED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IN THE HEAVY ROWS TO NOT HAVE SOME SORT OF FINISHED FLOORING ON A SECOND FLOOR. RIGHT? YEAH.WE DO STUFF WHERE HE LIKE RIGHT SO I THINK YOU KNOW TO OUT ON THIS DETAIL BECAUSE I HAD SOME COMMENTS ON THAT THE THAT ENTIRE WALL SECTION IS DIFFERENT FROM THE BUILDING SECTION AND THE ELEVATIONS STILL THERE'S A LITTLE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THAT SECTION ABOVE THE TOP BEAM THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE HEAD HEIGHT THERE AND, SOME SIDING INDICATED THAT'S NOT IN THERE AND THEN THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF THINGS ON THAT DETAIL THAT ARE JUST LABELED WE'VE SCREENED THAT ARE NOT WE'VE SCREENS AND THEN YOU GUYS ADDED COLUMN DETAIL WHICH YOU KNOW VISUALLY IT LOOKS APPROPRIATE BUT NONE OF THAT CALLED OUT AS SPECIFIC PARTS AND PIECES AND IT'S ENTIRE HOUSES PRETTY MUCH THE FRONT PORCH AND THAT DETAIL I THINK IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT REALLY LACKING IN ACCURACY RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T CATCH THAT POURING BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEAH, I AGREE.
I MEAN I WOULD ALSO GO EXTEND THAT TO THE WALL SECTION TO THE RIGHT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S ON ELEVATION BECAUSE IT'S SHOWING YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY DOWN AND YOU HAVE ISN'T ON THE BOTTOM AND POURING DOWN ON TOP SO THERE'LL BE A BAND BOARD THERE'LL BE MORE DETAILS ON THAT TO THE WALL SECTION OF THE RIGHT TO SHOWS LAPP SIDING OFF FROM FIRST FLOOR ALL THE WAY UP TO THIS OFF RIGHT OKAY SO THAT NEEDS TO BE BECAUSE THERE'S MISSING ELEMENTS IN THERE YOU KNOW THERE'LL A BAND BOARD THAT WILL NEED TO BE CALLED OUT WHAT THAT IS BUT IT'S IS IT WHAT IS IT THE TOP OR BOTTOM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ONE IS SO IT'S CALLED OUT AS LOPSIDED ALL THE WAY DOWN SO THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED. YEAH.
I MEAN I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW I MEAN SOMEBODY NEEDS TO IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BUILD IT AND FOR US TO APPROVE IT AND OTHER PARTS AND PIECES OF A BAND THE PARTS OF PIECES OF THE BAND BOARD IN BETWEEN THE RIGHT YEAH I MEAN YOU'RE BEFORE THE BAND IN BETWEEN THE BOARD OF THAT AND THEN THE CALL OUT IN DETAIL THE STUFF THAT ARE APPROVED RIGHT AN ELEVATION.
YEAH TYPICALLY THAT'S JUST HARDY PLAYING THERE SO. YEAH I APOLOGIZE THAT I REALIZE THAT NOW I MEAN TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HIRE A SIDING SUBCONTRACTOR THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT THIS DETAIL. THEY'RE LOOKING AT YOUR ELEVATIONS, YOU KNOW AND THEN WE OVER IT ON SITE, YOU KNOW I MEAN YOU CAN SAY THAT IN I MEAN YOU'VE GOT THREE ARCHITECTS UP HERE AND WE DISAGREE AND. WE SUBMIT STUFF TO BOARDS ALL THE TIME AND YOU'VE GOT TO GO WITH IT. I MEAN THE DETAILS THE MOST DETAIL THIS IS A DRAWING IN THERE BE CALLING OUT FOR SOME PIECES RIGHT YEAH EVERYTHING OH YEAH YEAH TYPICALLY TYPICALLY ON HOW THE HOUSE IS CONSTRUCTED YES BUT SIDING I WOULD SAY YOU KNOW NONE OF OUR SIDING CONTRACTORS ARE LOOKING AT THE DETAILS. ARE THERE MORE GOING ON THE ELEVATIONS BUT YES AND THE SOFFIT. YEAH.
YEAH BUT HOW HOW DO THEY KNOW WHAT THE ORDER WE DO WE JUST DO A TAKE OFF YOU KNOW.
YEAH WELL HOW YOU KNOW WHAT ORDER MEASURE THE HOUSE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GOT THERE HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE APPROVED AS FAR AS THE BANDS AND STUFF WITHOUT GOING INTO AND MENTIONED WELL YOU WOULD JUST SCALE BUT TYPICALLY YOU JUST YOU KNOW YOU LOOK AT THE ELEVATION AND MAKE IT LOOK JUST LIKE THE ELEVATION YOU KNOW SCALE THE BAND BOARD.
ARE YOU ASKING ME SIZE THE MAN BOARD IS OR YEAH I MEAN WHAT MATERIAL IS IT AND YOU KNOW PARTY AND EVERYTHING TOO YEAH YEAH THE WHOLE OF OUR CLADDING IS HARDIE.
OKAY SO HOW BIG IS THE PIECE THE BAND BOARD. YEAH I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
WE HAVE THE SCALE WHAT'S ON THESE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU JUST NEED THE DETAIL TO MATCH THE RIGHT THE DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST TIME YOU GUYS WERE HERE TWO MONTHS AGO RIGHT? NO I WAS SURPRISED AT THE NO NO THAT WASN'T BROUGHT UP. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WHAT WAS ABOVE THE COLUMN LIKE HOW WE WERE GOING TO FINISH THE ABOVE COLUMN BASICALLY THE BEAM ABOVE THE TOP COLUMN ON THE BASE AND WE HAD WE TRIED HAVE THAT ADDRESS OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS ARE OBVIOUSLY ARCHITECTS THAN ARCHITECTS BUT SO OTHER THAN JUST CLARIFYING THAT ON THE DETAIL AT THE TOP IT SHAKES AND THE BOTTOM OF THE BOARD AND BATON AND THE BAND BOARD YEAH I MEAN IT NEEDS TO REPRESENT WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING BUILT AND THEN IT CALLS OUT YOU KNOW THE BOARD BAND'S GOT A SPACING IT'S GOT YOU KNOW THE PIECES NEED TO BE CALLED OUT YOU KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL BOARD IS BASICALLY ALL THAT AND THEN THE BAND BOARD CALLS OUT THAT WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT'S THE SALE ON TOP OF THAT BAND YOU KNOW ALL THAT STUFF IT IS DETAILED, YOU KNOW, COLUMNS
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DETAILS ARE UPDATED AS WELL BUT NOT YOU KNOW THEY'RE, JUST GRAPHICALLY SHOWN.THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY CALLED OUT PARTS AND PIECES AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE PORCH THEY REMOVED THE BRACKET. THEY KEPT YEAH NONE OF THE BEARING HEIGHT OR ANYTHING IS RIGHT AND SO IT DIDN'T REALLY SHOW AND ALL ALL THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE HIDDEN SO LIKE THIS ONE THAT YOU'RE POINTING OUT RIGHT NOW, THIS ONE THAT ONE NONE OF THE PARTS AND PIECES OF THE BEAM TRIM ARE CALLED OUT SIZE SPACING, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IT IS GRAPHICALLY A BETTER REPRESENTATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
I THINK ON THE SECOND FLOOR THIS IS THE SCREEN FOR DETAIL. YEAH BUT IF YOU UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR PORCH PRETTY SURE IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE A SIMILAR HEIGHT TO THAT BUT IT IS LIKE TWO FEET TALLER WITH SOME FORMAT AND SIDE ACTION BUT I THINK FROM THE ELEVATIONS LOOKS LIKE IT DOESN'T EXIST YOU KNOW IF YOU KEEP SCROLLING UP NEUTRAL THAT TOP IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT THERE THIS PIECE HERE YEAH I THINK YOU'RE ROOF I THINK THERE'S WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ON THE PORCH AND THEN THE CEILING AND THE TOP PLATE THERE I THINK THE ROOF VISUALLY FROM THE ELEVATIONS LIKE IT'S SITTING ON THE SILL PLATE ON THAT LITTLE WALL BUT IT'S YOU KNOW ANOTHER TALLER AND THERE'S SIDING IN THERE. IT'S NOT CALLED OUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S I THINK I MEAN IT'S JUST IT'S HARD TO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SIDING HERE LIKE YEAH THE FRIEZE BOARD IN THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE. YEAH BUT WHAT'S THAT STUFF BENEATH IT IF YOU LOOK ON THE ELEVATION DOESN'T NONE OF THAT SIDING AS WELL YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE THAT FROM THE ELEVATION THE EAVE COVERS IT. WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE THE THIS WHERE IT CALLS OUT THE ONE BY FOUR TRIM AND THE TWO BY TWO TRIM THE FRIEZE BOARD VERSIONS LIKE THE BEARINGS ANOTHER TWO PEOPLE ARE ON AND I THINK YOU KNOW WHEN YOU AT THE DETAIL IN THE CENTER AND WHERE THAT BEAM IS AND YOU LOOK AT THE DETAIL ON THE BOTTOM LEFT AND WHERE THAT BEAM IS AND WHERE HOW THAT TRIM STACKS THAT TRIM STACK LOOKS LIKE WHAT IS IN YOUR ELEVATION ON THE HIGHER PITCHED ROOF THAN THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE THIS BOTTOM LEFT ONE HERE.
YEAH SO THROUGH THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY MORE BASED ON THAT. SO I THINK THE LARGER CONCERN OF WHAT WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE GETTING OUT WITH ALL THESE THAT WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT WE'RE APPROVING BASED OFF OF THE DETAILS AND NOT MATCHING UP WITH THE ELEVATIONS.
AND I THINK THE LAST TIME YOU GUYS PRESENTED WE SUGGESTED YOU MIGHT ASK A MEETING WITH THE PRC AND SIT DOWN SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THESE INDIVIDUALLY. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP YOU GUYS A LOT THE TIMELINE IN THIS PROJECT IS PUTS IN YOUR TWO YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN SITTING WITH THE TOWN WORK WITH KATIE FOR A LONG TIME AND SHE DROPPED THE BALL MANY TIMES I KNOW NOT HERE ANYMORE BUT A LOT OF THESE THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED A YEAR AGO OR LEVEL WERE NOT IT. I MEAN IT'S AN ELEVATION OR PLAN RIGHT? RIGHT. WE'VE SEEN THESE THINGS TO THIS LEVEL ONCE AND YOU GUYS WENT AROUND IN CIRCLES WITH HAPPY ROWS.
WAS THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUIRING THINGS THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T IMPROVING OR OH NO.
YEAH I'M NOT SURE REALLY WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. I KNOW WE MADE A LIST LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE AT THIS MEETING I THOUGHT WE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING ON THE LIST.
YEAH I MEAN I THINK WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE BEEN TO THE COLUMNS BUT PARTS AND PIECES AREN'T IDENTIFIED AND WHEN YOU MEAN THE PARTS AND PIECES OF THE COLUMN I MEAN IT'S JUST IT'S YOU KNOW, PREFABRICATED RIGHT. YOU KNOW, LIKE THE 12 BY 12 YOU KNOW IT'S TREATED MATERIAL THAT THEY MAKE INTO A COLUMN. IT'S JUST A SQUARE COLUMN AND THEN THE TOP PIECE HERE IS CALLED OUT AS ONE BY FOUR PRESSURE TREATED TRIM AND THEN THE BASE ON THE COLUMN IS CALLED OUT HERE AS WE'VE ALL TWO BY 12 PRESSURE TREATED TRIM OH EIGHT NOW TWO BY 12 PRESSURE TREATED THAT'S THAT'S CHOICE TO DOWN THAT OKAY I SEE SO INSTEAD OF IT SAYING WE PULLED IT NEEDS TO SAY IT NEEDS TO CALL OUT WHAT THE BOTTOM PIECE OF TRIM IS ON THE COLUMN RIGHT. OKAY AND THEN WHAT WHAT ELSE WAS IT THAT WASN'T MATCHING UP ON THE ELEVATION SO FROM THE BEAM TO THE PLATE IS MUCH HIGHER AND THAN IT IS ON THE ELEVATION IT'S NOT CALLED OUT WHAT HEIGHT IS THERE BUT I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THREE FEET ON ELEVATION. IT LOOKS LIKE AT THE FOOT. YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS KNEE WALL RIGHT HERE. YEAH. YEAH, THAT AND EVEN WALL TO LOOK LIKE IS THERE ON THE ELEVATION AT THAT TOP AS MUCH LOWER I KNOW AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO APPROVE A DRAWING THAT'S THAT INACCURATE BECAUSE AS WELL AS THE FRAMER GOES AND
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SCALES OF THIS AND BUILD THE HOUSE AN EXTRA TWO FEET TALLER AND ALL THAT'LL BE AN ISSUE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DREW EXPECTING IT TO BE AND IT'S GOT WEIRD SLIDING ON TOP OF THAT THEN YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT A DISAGREEMENT BECAUSE THERE'S A YOU KNOW THE PLANS ARE MISMATCHED BECAUSE THE I KNOW YOU GUYS TOOK A LOT YOU KNOW, TAKEN A LOT OF TIME THE REVIEW PROCESS NOT ALL OF AN HBC BUT THIS IS THE TIME YOU GUYS HAVE COME IN AND TOLD US YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BUILD ON THE PLANS THAT YOU'RE SUBMITTING AND NOT LOOK THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SMALL DISCREPANCIES AND THIS IS THE THIRD PROPERTY WE BUILT IN HISTORIC DOWNTOWN BLUFFTON.SO WE WE PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT YOU GOT. BOTH HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND SOLD FOR $1.4 MILLION. OKAY. AND THIS ONE YEAH.
LIKE I SAID, THE THE GUYS OUR SIDING GUYS WE JUST SCALE BASED ON LIKE YOU KNOW AND ALSO WITH YOU KNOW, ARBY'S AND LIKE THIS ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW PROCESS TYPICALLY THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS THE ELEVATIONS BUT AND I UNDERSTAND 100% YOU WANT THIS TO BE RIGHT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY SO THAT TO SCALE THAT RIGHT THERE DOESN'T MATCH WHAT'S ON THE ELEVATIONS. I MEAN WE'RE NOT SCALE BUT IT LOOKS LIKE JUST YEAH IF YOU LOOK AT ELEVATION IT LOOKS LIKE THAT PULLS OFF IT TO BE FURTHER DOWN.
YEAH BECAUSE IF IT GETS BUILT LIKE THIS THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS WEIRD THING THAT'S NOT REALLY CALLED OUT. I THINK WHAT YOU REALLY WANT IS A COLUMN OR A BEAM RIGHT AND THEN YOU WANT THAT ROOFS IN OTHERS IT LOOKS JUST LIKE A BEAM AND THIS SAYING IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S THE BEAM ABSOLUTELY THEY'RE SIDING OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT SPECIFIED ABOVE THERE'S A LILY YEAH OR WHAT NOT WHAT WE WANT WHAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN IS THESE CEILING FOR THE DECK ARE GOING TO HANG OFF OF THIS COLUMN OR OFF OF THIS BEAM AND YEAH THE RAFTERS WILL PROBABLY I DON'T THINK THAT KNEE WAS THERE.
I THINK THAT POINT WAS PROBABLY PIECE OF WEIGHT ON TOP OF THAT. YEAH EXACTLY.
YEAH. I'M NOT SURE WHY HE'S GOT THAT TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH IN ACTUALITY IS THIS THE CEILING JOYCE OF THE DECK WILL HANG OFF OF THIS BEAM AND THE RAFTERS WILL SIT ON THAT BEAM AND BE YOU KNOW, ANCHORED TO IT. SO YEAH.
OKAY SO THIS NEEDS SOME ADJUSTMENT HERE AND THERE SO YEAH I MEAN I THINK BY THAT PICTURE OR THE ELEVATION THAT IT'S ACTUALLY THE PLATE IS THE PLATE OF THE HEADER AND THEN THAT JOYCE IS KNOCKED OUT SO ENJOYS SO THAT THE CEILING JOISTS PLATE THE SAME AS THERE ON THE PLATE OF THE HEADER NOT ON TOP OF THE PLATE RIGHT HERE. YEAH SO THE WHOLE THING I THINK IT'S WAY DOWN I THAT I THINK THAT JOYCE IS ACTUALLY SITTING ON A HEADER PLATE OR THAT TOP OF THAT ROD IS YES RIGHT YEAH YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THESE HE'S GOT THE CEILING JOYCE SITTING ON TOP OF THE BEAM WHICH IS INCORRECT. THEY DON'T HANG OFF THE BEAM NONE AND THEN NONE OF THAT WILL BE ON TOP OF THE BEAM. WELL NO I THINK IT SITS ON TOP OF THERE BUT I THINK I MEAN IT CAN'T SIT ON TOP AND I THINK I'D RATHER SIT ON TOP OF IT SO IT READS AS A BEAM BUT THAT HOLE THE ACTUAL CHOICE FOR THE RIGHT THROUGH NOT THE JOYCE RAFTER IS SITTING ON TOP OF THE PLATE FOR THE BEAM RIGHT SO IT'S AND THEN THAT JOYCE COMES IN THE SAME PLANE AS KNOCKED OUT THE OR THE RAFTER REGARDLESS I THINK DISCUSSING WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN OR WHAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN ON SITE IS NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS. WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS ABSOLUTELY WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE BASED OFF THE DRAWINGS AND THE DRAWINGS DON'T REALLY REPRESENT IT.
SO I, I DON'T SEE THIS GETTING I MEAN I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSION BUT I WOULD REALLY REQUEST YOU GUYS I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST YOU TABLE IT AND COME TALK TO THE PRC SO THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH ALL OF THESE SEPARATELY RATHER THAN TALKING AGAIN FOR ANOTHER 30 MINUTES AND THEN SENDING YOU BACK AGAIN. YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE THAT SECOND MEETING WITH WITH KATIE BEFORE SHE LEFT AND I THINK YOU WERE THERE THAT MEETING AND NONE OF THIS CAME UP AND THEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SO DIDN'T HAVE THOSE DETAILS BACK THEN.
OH YEAH. THIS IS THE ALL THE DETAIL SECTIONS WERE IN THE PLANS FROM THE BEGINNING THE ONE YEAH YEAH I MEAN THIS YOU DIDN'T HAVE THEY WERE INCORRECT I MEAN YOU HAD THE BRACKET COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE BRACKET. IT'S PART OF THE REASON I THINK WHY THERE'S SO MUCH HEIGHT THERE IS THAT YEAH HE JUST HE JUST QUICKLY CHANGED THE BASES AREN'T THERE SO REALLY I MEAN THE ONLY THING THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT YOU SUBMITTED THAT WASN'T REALLY CAUGHT WHICH IS NOT WE'RE NOT TYPICALLY REVIEWING DETAILS ABOUT LEVEL IT IS YOU KNOW YOU SUBMITTED ON MORE THAN I SAID IT IS THE BAND BUT WE'RE NOT BEING IN THE DETAIL BUT YOU KNOW USUALLY PEOPLE BETWEEN THOSE STEPS ARE COORDINATING OR AND THINGS LIKE THAT RIGHT.
YEAH I AGREE. I THINK THAT'S WHY BECAUSE THERE WERE THERE WERE BRACKETS
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HERE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.RIGHT. AND SO IT'S FOR US TO REVIEW. UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTOOD.
AND THEN SO THIS IS CORRECT THIS BOTTOM LEFT ONE HERE, THE SCREEN PORCH SECTION.
CORRECT. SO WE JUST NEED TO UPDATE THIS ONE CALL OUT.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO SAY WE BOTH AND TO SAY WHAT THE BOTTOM TRIM IS BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY ADDED THAT AND WE CHANGE THE COLUMNS BASED ON WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME IT WAS MADE THEM SQUARE WITH A YOU KNOW ONE BY FOUR AT THE TOP AND IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A ONE BY EIGHT AT THE BOTTOM YOU KNOW MAYBE A ONE BY TEN BUT YEAH SO WE'LL CALL THOSE OUT AND THEN THIS NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED HERE BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW SO, IS THERE NO WAY THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS AND GET THOSE FIXED? WELL, I JUST I MEAN EVEN THERE YOU SAID IT MIGHT BE A ONE BY TEN OR MAYBE A ONE BY EIGHT. THAT'S A SMALL THING THAT CAN CHANGE BUT YOU START TO STACK ALL THOSE UP AND THEN WE END UP WITH A PROJECT THAT LOOKS COULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE APPROVED AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE DONE OTHER HOUSES AND THEY'VE TURNED OUT WELL AND THEY'VE SOLD WELL BUT IT'S JUST YOU KNOW, WE TAKE THEM ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND WE WANT TO BE THOROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE PROVING IS WHEN IT COMES HERE WE WE ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT SHE BROUGHT UP.
SURE. AND IN TERMS OF JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE COVER ALL THESE BASES. YEP. SO OTHER THAN THE DETAILS, THE ELEVATIONS ARE GOOD TO YOU? I THINK THE THE INSET THAT IN THAT CORNER THE INSET THAT WENT FROM SIX INCHES TO A FOOT IS A WELCOME CHANGE ON THE BRACKETED ROOF OVER THE GARAGE ELEVATION HELPS AS WELL AS LOWERING IT WITH THE WITH THE SCALE. I THOUGHT THAT HELPED A GOOD BIT I THINK WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE NINE FOOT DOOR AT THE FRONT IT LOOKS GOOD THERE COVERING THE ROOF IN THE GARAGE OR IN THE ROOF THE GARAGE WHICH WAS THE ONE FOOT PIECE THAT GOT RID OF THE FAUX WINDOWS. YES. YEAH.
ON THAT SIDE ELEVATION WE PUT THEM IN THE LOCATION THAT YOU GUYS SUGGESTED I GOT A QUESTION ON THE CHIMNEY CAP ROTATING ARE YOU USING A MASONRY CHIMNEY AND SO THAT THAT SO THEN THAT WON'T HAVE A SPARK FOR US OR SO WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT SEEING WE WON'T SEE A METAL SPARK OR CAP STICKING UP INSIDE OF THE BISHOP'S CAP. NO NOT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BLUE OF THE CHIMNEY BUT ILLUSIONARY. NO NO IT WAS GOING TO BE METAL.
YES. I MEAN I THINK WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CHIMNEY CAP ROTATED BACK BECAUSE I DON'T THINK FROM THE STREET YOU TO BE LOOKING AT.
I SAW A NOTE THERE WAS A NOTE IN THE STAFF REPORT ABOUT THEM ROTATING IT TO BE AWAY FROM IT ,SAID BRUIN ROAD, WHICH WAS IN BURNT CHURCH. I KNOW AND SAID THAT'S WHY I SO AND IT SAYS THAT IT WAS ROTATED AND I KNOW HOW SEPARATE THE CONFUSED HOUSE FROM BURNT CHURCH WAS THAT IT'S ALSO HOUSE YEAH NOW THAT'S WHAT WAS CONFUSED BY THAT AND I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP BUT TYPICALLY YOU KNOW WITH IT A CHIMNEY CAP LIKE THAT IF YOU HAVE THE METAL SPARK OR RESTER IN THERE YOU SEE THAT YOU ROTATE IT SIDEWAYS IT SHOWS TO THE SIDES OF THE STREET. I SEE. OKAY.
I DON'T THINK SOMEONE HAD SUGGESTED I THINK IT WAS A RB AGAIN KNOW THEY ARE MAKING SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS ARE KICKING BACK AND YOU KNOW SAYING HEY RB WANTED US TO ROTATE IT 90 DEGREES BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE BISHOP'S ART YOU KNOW THE TEARDROP SHAPE.
YEAH THEY WANTED TO SEE IT FROM THE STREET ELEVATION I BELIEVE YOU KNOW WHICH THERE'S A WOODED LOT BETWEEN AND BURNT CHURCH BUT THERE'S NO HOUSE AND IT'S RIGHT ON THAT RIGHT SIDE THE SIDE FACING THE HOUSE. OKAY. SO YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ROTATED BACKWARDS OR BACK TO I WOULD BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A PRETTY SAVVY ROAD THERE AND THAT'S WHAT I MEAN THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR PURVIEW.
YEAH, I MEAN IT IS OUR PURVIEW BUT WOULD SAY THEY CREATE SOME COMPLEXITIES.
I THINK IT'S ALL IF IT STAYS FACING THE STREET I DON'T WANT OBVIOUSLY THE ELEVATIONS PUT TO THE SIDE BUT IT'S ON YEAH RIGHT THERE I APPRECIATE THEY LOWER THE ROOF I THINK I'D PROBABLY WANT THAT CONNECTOR TO BE THE SAME LEVEL THE GARAGE. SO IS THERE A REASON WE COULD MOVE THAT CONNECTOR ROUTE DOWN THE HOUSE? THE MAIN HOUSE IS THE MAIN AND THE CONNECTOR AND THE GARAGE ARE ONE OR C ON THE. I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE THE WINDOWS AND EVERYTHING WOULD BE IN THE SAME PLANE SO I DON'T SEE WHY YOU COULDN'T LOWER THAT ONE FOOT SO IT'S SO THAT RAISES THE CONNECTOR TO THE SO THEN THE HOUSES IS A LITTLE MORE PROMINENT I MEAN WAS IT RIGHT YEAH UNDERSTOOD. I THINK THIS IS TECHNICALLY PART OF THIS FLOOR HERE SO I THINK THAT BUT THE BACK PART SAME FOR I DO THE GARAGE BONUS ROOM. YEAH THE BONUS ROOM ACTUALLY YOU'RE GOING TO ENTER THE YOU
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CAN ENTER THE BONUS ROOM FROM I BELIEVE THIS LANDING HERE AND THEN YOU WOULD GO UP A LITTLE BIT AND THIS FLOOR IS CONNECTED TO THE MAIN HOUSE I THINK THAT'S WHY HE I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BUT I DON'T THINK THE PLANS REFLECT HIS DON'T PLAN I THINK LOOK LIKE IT'S ALL THE SAME LEVEL. YEAH BECAUSE I REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT IT AND LOOKING AT IT YEAH YEAH I MEAN IF THAT WAS THE CASE I HEARD THAT THE THE GARAGE SHOULD GET CONSIDERABLY SHORTER BUT IT'S NOT THEY WERE TRYING TO KEEP THAT I MEAN YEAH IT'S THE SAME LEVEL EVERYTHING IS THE SAME LEVEL YOU KNOW I MEAN IT'S MINIMAL I MEAN YOU KNOW WE MOVE THAT MOVE THIS RUBDOWN. YEAH, MOVE IT OUT. I IT WOULD LOOK BETTER YOU'RE RIGHT I AGREE BUT YOU'RE SAYING BASICALLY THIS SAW THIS SOFFIT GOES DOWN THIS FASCIA BOARD BE SAME LEVEL AS THE SPECIAL BOARD YEAH I THINK IT ON BOTH YEAH THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KEEP COMING BACK TO AND THEN GO BACK TO REVIEW SO THAT ALL THIS DISCUSSION CAN HAPPEN THERE WE CAN MOVE ON. YES. IN THE IN THE INTEREST OF GETTING OTHER PROJECTS BEFORE THE COMMISSION I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE WITH STAFF REVIEWING ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUT NOT REALLY PUTTING A LIST THOSE YOU KNOW WHERE I WAS OKAY YEAH I JUST WANTED TO GET IT BECAUSE LIKE THAT'S WHAT I TRIED TO DO. TIME IS YOU KNOW IT'S A BIG TICKET AND I GOT EVERYTHING THAT WE ABOUT AND WE MADE ALL THOSE CHANGES SO AND I SEE THAT SOME NOW THERE ARE SOME NEW CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE THOSE CHANGES THAT ARE KIND OF COMING OUT.SO BRACKET DETAIL HERE WANT TO SEE A BRACKET DETAIL THERE? WE NEED TO FIX THOSE TWO WALL SECTIONS. ONE IS MAINLY THE SIDING INCORRECT.
I WANT TO SEE A BAND BOARD CALL OUT IT NEEDS TO BE SHAPES ABOVE AND BOARD BATON BELOW AND THEN THIS DETAIL SECTION NEEDS TO GET FIXED SO THAT IT MATCHES THE ONES ON THE PLANT.
WHAT'S BASICALLY THE ELEVATION ELEVATIONS NEED TO MATCH THE DETAIL? YEAH BUT OTHER THAN THAT WE'RE ARE WE GOOD WITH POWDER COATED ALUMINUM OR STEEL HANDRAILS.
I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. YEAH WE COUPLE SPOTS IN THAT LOCATION WE'VE DONE THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES IN NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T SEE THAT BEING AN ISSUE OKAY AWESOME AND ALL THE OTHER CHANGES THAT WE MADE SO PRETTY MUCH THAT AND THEN WE'LL LOWER THIS BREEZEWAY ROOF A LITTLE BIT AND THEN YOU WANT US TO TURN NOW JIMMY? I MEAN LOOK, I THINK WHERE I'M AT IS IF TERRY ROSE IS GOING TO HOLD THROUGH SOMETHING WE'LL JUST THE I WOULD JUST APPROVE YEAH I THINK THAT'S FINE TO LEAVE IT AS IS LOOK BETTER TURN I AGREE AND SO THE HPR SHE MEETS EVERY BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE A FORMAL PROCESS IF YOU CAN JUST REQUEST A SPECIAL MEETING AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER YEAH I THINK WE FOLLOW IT UP.
I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE AN H PRC MEETING AND JUST PROVIDED YOU KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM THREE OR LESS. ALL RIGHT. SO ARE WE STILL LOOKING AT TWO MONTH TIMELINE FROM THIS DATE? WHEN'S THE NEXT MIDDLE DATE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THE NEXT THE NEXT HPC AND I THINK IT IT IS THIS WEEK. YEAH.
WHAT IS THE PROCESS WITH YOU GUYS APPROVING WITH CONDITIONS VERSUS YOU KNOW A TWO MONTH TIMELINE WE'VE I MEAN $7,000 WITH ARCHITECT AND JUST CHANGES KNOW WELL AND IN FAIRNESS WE ASKED YOU TO COME TO THE HRC AND TALK US TO AVOID THIS SITUATION UNFORTUNATELY THAT WAS JUST ADJUSTED IN DECEMBER I DO UNDERSTAND THAT BUT WITH THE HOLIDAYS EVERYBODY WAS BUSY AND WE BUT WE DIDN'T GET I MEAN HE DIDN'T REQUEST IT SO WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOMETHING.
I, I THINK WE'RE I DON'T SEE THIS GETTING APPROVED. I MEAN WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO A VOTE. WE CAN GO TO A VOTE IF YOU LIKE AND SEE I WAS JUST I MEAN WE OBVIOUSLY PROVED THAT WE WE ADDRESSED ALL 12 ISSUES THAT YOU HAD BEFORE IN A TIMELY MANNER, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU REALLY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T REALLY CALL OUT ANY OF THE PARTIZAN PIECES AND YOU DIDN'T LIKE DETAIL YOUR BRACKET IT'S JUST KIND OF DRAWN YOU KNOW.
SO IT GOES BACK TO THE ISSUE OF WE'RE NOT STILL 100% SURE WHAT WE'RE APPROVING HONESTLY IT'S WE'LL GET WE'RE GOING TO BUTTONED UP AND HRC I'M I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AHP IS THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH WHERE IT USED TO BE KATIE RIGHT.
SO HPC IS A SUBSET OF THE COMMISSION OF THE HPC THEY MEET TYPICALLY JUST TO DO THE CONCEPTUAL REVIEW TO TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW OVERALL IS IT GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU WENT THROUGH THAT? YEAH.
WE DON'T OFTEN REVIEW THE DETAILS THAT LEVEL BECAUSE THEY'RE TYPICALLY NOT DONE IF YOU HAD THEM IT'S GREAT TO LOOK AT BUT WE KNOW THAT THINGS WILL CHANGE BUT THEY ARE AVAILABLE ALSO FOR CONSULTATIONS AND YOU KNOW SORT OF INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS IF YOU NEED TO.
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I THINK THAT WILL HELP REALLY GET LIKE A DETAILED LIST OF . HERE'S THE THINGS THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH YOU CHANGING THAT THEN YOU CAN COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO THE FULL COMMISSION BECAUSE FOR THE LONGEST TIME DIDN'T KNOW WHO THE POINT OF CONTACT WAS AND THERE WAS MONTHS THAT WENT ON WITHOUT COMMUNICATION EVEN COMMUNICATION I'M SORRY THAT HAPPENED. WE SAID WE SUBMITTED AND IT TOOK 13 DAYS YOU KNOW FOR HER TO RESPOND TO US YEAH THAT'S IT . I'M SORRY THAT HAPPENED TO YOU BUT THAT'S NOT WE HAVE. YEAH. I MEAN WE HAVE A LOT LIKE 25 BUSINESS DAYS THROUGH THE YEAR 15 BUSINESS DAYS REVIEW. THAT'S STANDARD PROCESS THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS THE TWO MONTH RUN BETWEEN HPC IS JUST PART OF THE PROCESS IT TAKES TIME IN THE TOWN OF BOSTON YEAH I THINK I MEAN I THINK WE'RE ALMOST THERE WE'LL GET THIS THESE TAKEN CARE OF IF WE DO THE HPC REVIEW ONE OF THE HPC COMMISSIONERS IS GOING TO BE THERE. YES. SO HPC MADE UP OF SEVERAL COMMISSION MEMBERS. OH OKAY. YEAH THAT'S THE TWO CHAIR AND A THIRD MEMBER. OKAY. YEAH BECAUSE THE CONCEPTUAL REVIEW IS ALWAYS TYPICALLY THERE'S BEEN KATIE AND THEN THERE WAS I THINK THERE WAS ONE PERSON AT OUR CONCEPTUAL YEAH AND TYPICALLY YEAH IT WILL TYPICALLY BE THEY'VE REVIEWED HPC HAS REVIEWED IT THEY MAY NOT ATTEND THAT MEETING BUT THEY REVIEWED AND GIVEN COMMENTS TO KATIE OR TO CHARLOTTE AHEAD OF TIME. WHAT'S A YEAH THEY OKAY AND THEN CAN WE MAKE IT NEXT MONTH RATHER THAN TWO MONTHS DO YOU THINK WITH THE NEXT SUBMISSION DATE IS THIS WEEK CORRECT. IT'S TODAY SO WHERE WE KIND YEAH OKAY WE'LL YEAH WE'LL JUST TABLE IT AND WE'LL WE'LL DO THIS ONE MORE TIME AND WE APPRECIATE IT.YEAH ABSOLUTELY HERE IS THERE WE GO OVER EVERY OBJECTION THAT YOU HAD AND THEN THOSE SCRIBBLED IN RED AND YOU SAID I DON'T THINK SO. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT AGAIN.
WELL DO DO THAT IN THE NEXT NEXT AGE PIERCING MEETING WOULD BE JANUARY 21ST.
OKAY. THAT'S TUESDAY. WE'VE GOT A MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR HOLIDAY ON THE 20TH. OKAY. THIS FOLLOWING WHEN THE NO THAT'S CANCELED THAT'S ALREADY GONE OUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SUBMISSIONS.
SO DO WE WANT TO SHOOT FOR THE 21ST YEAR AND WHEN CAN WE GET YOUR SUBMISSION CAN YOU GET BACK TO US FROM TIME TO AND TAKE A LOOK WHEN'S THE NEXT MEETING IF WE GET IT TO YOU THE NEXT DAY YOU KNOW OR A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER THAT HRC MEETING THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE THE 21ST SO WE NEED IT NEEDS TO BE ASKED IS ASKING WHEN THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING ABOUT IT.
WELL I THINK WE CAN TAKE THIS AT THAT AT THIS MEETING THAT'S COMING UP KNOWING WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AND THEN GO THROUGH ALL OF THE ITEMS SO THAT THEN YOU CAN GO TO YOUR YOUR ARCHITECT WITH OF THE ITEMS WE'VE DISCUSSED HOW WE MAKE THE CHANGES THAT THEY CAN SUBMIT BY THE FEBRUARY DATE OF REVIEW AT MARCH MARCH. OKAY.
SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU.
DO YOU NEED TO DO WE NEED TO DO OKAY CAN I GET A VOTE OR OUR MOTION I WILL MOTION TO TABLE MOTION IS THERE A SECOND SESSION WITH ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR A CERTIFICATE OF AREA
[VII.1. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Ansley H. Manuel, architect, on behalf of the owner, Beth McHugh, for review of a Certificate of Appropriateness-HD to allow the construction of a rear addition of approximately 591 SF to an existing 2-story residence of 1,524 SF, a side deck addition, and a new metal front porch roof in Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-Historic District. (COFA-08-24-019280)(Staff - Charlotte Moore)]
SUBMISSION IS TABLED WE'VE GOT A NEW BUSINESS ANOTHER SUBMISSION.ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS FOR 50 PRICHARD STREET JUST UP THE ROAD THE REQUEST IS FROM THE APPLICANT EMPLOYEE MANUAL OF MANUAL STUDIO FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER BETH MCHUGH AND THE REQUEST IS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A REAR ADDITION OF APPROXIMATELY 591 SQUARE FEET TO AN EXISTING TWO STOREY RESIDENCE THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 1500 SQUARE FEET A NEW SIDE DECK ADDITION AND A NEW METAL FRONT PORCH ROOF THE PROPERTY'S AN OLD TOWN AND ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL AND HERE IS THE LOCATION JUST UP THE ROAD 16 HOUSE IN THE PROPERTY NEXT TO ANOTHER HOUSE AND HERE IS PHOTOS OF THE EXISTING HOUSE WHICH WAS BUILT BACK THE 1990S BEFORE WE HAD A UDL WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2011 SO IT DOESN'T QUITE MATCH OUR CURRENT REQUIREMENTS IN APPLYING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE YOUDO SO THERE'S A LITTLE INCONSISTENCY IN THE REAR PORCH TRADITION THAT YOU SEE HERE WOULD BE REMOVED HERE IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN AND A PROPOSED SITE PLAN AND YOU SEE HERE THE NEW ADDITION IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN A NEW DECK ADDITION TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE FOUNDATION PLAN EXISTING FLOOR PLANS THE GROUND
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FLOOR PLAN SO THERE IS SPACE UNDERNEATH THE EXISTING HOUSE RIGHT NOW FOR STORAGE AND TO PARK A GOLF CART. AND THEN HERE IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN THAT WOULD BE FOR A BEDROOM IN A SUNROOM PROPOSED SECOND FLOOR PLAN A SLIGHT BUMP OUT HERE TO FOR WINDOWS THE ROOF PLAN AND HERE IS COMPARISON OF THE ELEVATIONS YOU SEE ON THE FRONT PORCH THERE IS PROPOSED STANDING SEAM METAL. THE EXISTING ROOF MATERIAL RIGHT NOW ARE IS ASPHALT SHINGLES. HERE IS THE LEFT ELEVATION AND YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGE HERE IN THE REAR AND PORCH WILL COME OFF IN THE ADDITION AT THE FIRST FLOOR. AND ONE THING TO NOTE HERE THERE IS SOME INCONSISTENCIES.THE ADJUSTMENT WILL NOT INCLUDE SHUTTERS AND THEY ARE INCLUDED ON THE EXISTING HOUSE.
THE THE SHUTTER DOES ABSOLUTELY MATCH THE WINDOW PROPORTIONS SO THERE WILL NEED TO BE A DETERMINATION WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE SHUTTERS ON THE ADDITION THE ADDITION FOR THE BEDROOM AT THE FIRST FLOOR WILL ALSO HAVE A STANDING SEAM METAL AGAIN THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING SHINGLE ROOF AND SO STAFF IS REQUESTING DETERMINATION OF THAT.
THERE IS FIXED WINDOW HERE I BELIEVE THERE IS AN EXISTING FIXED WINDOW RIGHT NOW AND ALL SECTIONS PORCH DETAILS SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS REGARDING WINDOWS AND DOORS REVIEW CRITERIA IS CONSISTENT WITH EXCEPT THE FEW ITEMS THAT I'M ABOUT TO MENTION.
WE DO NEED A LITTLE DETAIL INFORMATION REGARDING THE MATERIAL FOR THE STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF AS WELL AS THE STUCCO APPLICATION STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT THE COMMISSION MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT THE STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF ON THE FIRST FLOOR ADDITION IS APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE ASPHALT SHINGLES THE MAIN STRUCTURE YOU NEED A DETERMINATION WHETHER THE OF SHUTTERS ON THE ADDITION IS APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE USE OF SHUTTERS ON THE EXISTING RESIDENCE AND WHETHER OR NOT THE REAR FIXED WINDOW IS APPROPRIATE AS IS NOT A PERMITTED CONFIGURATION AND THAT AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION CAN YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPROVE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND HAVE CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION AND THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SEE WHICH YOU CAN SAY WERE AINSLEY EMMANUEL THE ARCHITECT AND PANIC HERE OWNER SO WHILE I'LL ADDRESS THE METAL ROOFS ON THE BOTTOM I'M PEOPLE THE ALL RIGHT SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS WHEN I THINK I DON'T MIND THE HYBRID OF ROOF MATERIALS WHEN THE METAL ROOF ISN'T DYING INTO THE ASPHALT ROOF AND IN THIS CASE BOTH ROOFS DIE INTO A WALL AND THEY'RE BOTH THE FIRST STORY ROOFS YOU WANT ANOTHER VIEW YET WE CAN LOOK AT THE FRONT ELEVATION AGAIN YOU'LL SEE IN THAT ROOF IS GOING FROM ASPHALT TO METAL AND AND THEN THE WRAPAROUND IN THE BACK WILL ALSO BE METAL IF YOU ALL WANT TO DISCUSS THAT NOW OR IF I SHOULD JUST GO TO THE NEXT ITEM AND QUESTIONS I THINK IT'S PERFECTLY FINE ADD IT ON THE LOWER ROOF. I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE THAT DOESN'T BOTHER EITHER ANYBODY ELSE FEEL DIFFERENTLY OKAY LET'S THAT'S IT ON ISSUE SO THE FIXED THAT'S IN THE REAR AND IT'S ACTUALLY I THINK IT'S THE NOT THE ONE YOU HAVE MARKED IT'S THE THREE GANG WINDOWS THE MIDDLE ONE SO AND SO I'VE GOT TO OFFER BULLS ON THE END WE'RE LOOKING AT THE THE THREE GANG ON THE FIRST LEVEL THAT'S IN THE CAROLINA ROOM IT'S COMMONLY DO THAT BECAUSE THE MIDDLE ONES THAT PICTURE WINDOW BUT THOSE B SASH THAT RATHER THAN DIRECT SETS WILL HAVE THE SAME FRAME YEAH SO IF I HAVE TO MAKE THEM ALL OPERABLE I CAN IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE LOOK OF THE WINDOW AND RIGHT AWAY I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING OUT OF THE FASHION WINDOW. IT'S JUST A FIXED CASEMENT, A DIRECT SET FIRE WITH THE RIGHT
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FRAME TO I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT WITH MIDDLE ONE BEING FIXED.NO I DON'T I MEAN SO ALL THESE WINDOWS OPERABLE EXCEPT THE MIDDLE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES. WITH 3 TO 3 IN A ROW I JUST HAVE THE CENTER WINDOWS FIXED.
YEAH THE CENTER ONE BEING FIXED IS PRETTY APPLICATION OF THAT TROUBLE ANYBODY ELSE HAVE UP UP ON THAT OR QUALMS. OKAY AND THEN UPSIDE THERE'S THE REASON I HAD TO EVEN DO ANYTHING TO THE UPSTAIRS IS BECAUSE I COULDN'T GET A EGRESS ON THAT WINDOW UNLESS I BROUGHT THE REAR PORTION OF THAT BEDROOM FORTH. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE TO DO ANY ADDITIONS UP THERE AND SO WE'RE DOING ALL THE OKAY IF WE GO TO THE PICTURES OF THE HOUSE THERE'S A HODGEPODGE OF THINGS GOING WITH THE EXISTING HOUSE WORKING GETTING TO SOME OF THE WINDOWS HAVE THESE LONG SHUTTERS, SOME DON'T HAVE SHUTTERS.
YOU CAN SEE THE REAR DOESN'T HAVE SHUTTERS THERE. THERE WAS ONE MORE PHOTO OF THE REAR AND THINK I MEAN YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT THERE SO THE REAR DOESN'T HAVE SHUTTERS AT ALL AND I'M NOT SO SURE I ACTUALLY THINK THE SHUTTERS ARE VERY ATTRACTIVE BUT I WILL WE CAN HAVE SOME SORT OCCURRING IN SHUTTERS BUT THEY DO SERVE SO I YOU KNOW I'M WE CAN RAISE THE SHUTTERS AND ESTHETICALLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BUT I'M JUST WONDERING AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO SO IN AN EFFORT IT'S EITHER IT SEEMS LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DISCUSSING IS ALL SHUTTERS OR NO SHUTTERS AND SO THAT SO WHAT BETH IS SAYING IS THE SHUTTERS THAT ARE THERE THEY FUNCTION. SO THAT'S NICE THAT THERE'S A HURRICANE THEY CAN ACTUALLY USE THEM BUT IN THE BACK I'VE GOT SO MANY WINDOWS THAT ARE MULTIPLE WINDOWS IN A ROW IS REALLY HARD TO TRY TO SHUTTERS WITH WHAT MOSTLY ON THE EXISTING HOUSE IS A SINGLE WINDOW WITH SHUTTERS AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THE NEW WINDOWS ARE DIFFERENT STYLES THEY ARE TWO YES SO I JUST WENT WITH THE NO SHUTTERS AND IT'S THE BACK. YEAH YEAH I MEAN DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE SHUTTERS ON MULTIPLE WINDOWS. THE ONLY THING I MAYBE THAT SINGLE WINDOW WOULD HAVE THE SHUTTERS AND IT'S ON EVERYWHERE ELSE BUT MULTIPLE WINDOWS ARE DEFINITELY NOT OUT OF IT. YOU KNOW SHUTTERS NEED TO COVER THE WINDOWS SO OBVIOUSLY A THREE PANEL ONE YOU REALLY CAN'T DO IT DOUBLE THEY HAVE TO BE THE SAME SIZE.
I MEAN IT'S ON THE FRONT THERE BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHUTTER AT ALL AND JUST BE THAT SINGLE WINDOW IN THE BACK CLOSE DOUBLE THE ONE YOU HAVE, THAT'D BE THE ONLY PLACE I WOULD HAVE A SHUTTER AND THEN DOES LOOK SILLY WHEN ALL THE REST OF THE WINDOWS THAT THERE DON'T HAVE SHUTTERS RIGHT. RIGHT I MEAN DOUBLE WINDOWS YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT IT WAS MULTIPLE WHEN YOU WOULD NOT EXPECT INDIVIDUAL WINDOWS MORE AKIN TO THE DOUBLE WINDOWS AND STYLE AND IT'S KIND OF A TRANSITION FROM FROM THE FRONT OF THE BACK AS YOU GO TO THE CASEMENT THEY DON'T HAVE A FLASH IN THE MIDDLE I THINK I'M ALL RIGHT WITH IT.
YEAH. I MEAN I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG THING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
OKAY. I DEFINITELY WOULD NOT PUT IT ON THAT ANY OF THE MULTIPLE WINDOWS I FEEL SUPER STRONGLY ABOUT IT EITHER WAY. SO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HOUSE PERSONNEL WOULD COMMISSIONER FRASER AND THE GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD COME TO ME THAT'S OKAY RATHER THAN MAKE YOU RIP OFF YOUR SHUTTERS THAT WOULD I THINK THE SHUTTERS ARE A NICE POP OF COLOR. YEAH AS OF THE ECCENTRIC LOOK OF BLUFFTON BUT YOU KNOW THAT THAT WINDOW IS SIDE BY SIDE. THE EXISTING WINDOW BACK THERE DIDN'T HAVE THE SHUTTERS SO I THINK THAT'S YEAH OKAY OKAY OVERLOOKED ANY OTHER I THINK THAT WAS IT YEAH.
THINK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND YEAH THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT THEN WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MOTION OR I GUESS WE NEED TO OBVIOUSLY MAKE A BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YEAH AND WE'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT ALL THREE OF THOSE WERE WE WERE BEING OKAY SO SOMEWHERE LIKE A COMMISSION I THINK A MOTION APPROVE FOR CONVERGENCE I'LL SECOND THAT ANY DISCUSSION ON FAVOR I OPPOSE THE MOTION IS PASSED AS BY STAFF WITH THE DETERMINATIONS AGREED UPON.
[VII.2. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Sarah Kepple of Pearce Scott Architects, on behalf of owner, Prestige Worldwide Properties, LLC, for review of a Certificate of Appropriateness - HD to construct a new 2.5-story commercial office structure of approximately 4,220 SF and commercial carriage house of approximately 1,100 SF at 60 Bruin Road, Lot 23 in the Tabby Roads Development, in the OId Town Bluffton Historic District. The property is zoned Neighborhood General-Historic District. (COFA-08-24-019268) (Staff - Charlotte Moore)]
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I KNOW THAT WASN'T SAID BUT OKAY SECOND AND CERTAINLY SECOND COVER AND NEW BUSINESS AND I'M TO HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF IN THIS 100 RIGHT YES. ALL RIGHT.THE FOLLOWING ITEM IS FOR 60 BERLIN ROAD LOCATED IN THE TATTY ROADS DEVELOPMENT LOT 23 REQUEST IS BY APPLICANT SERI COUPLE OF PURE SCOT ARCHITECTS FOR CHRIS DAZZLE PRESTIGE WORLDWIDE PROPERTIES THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO AND A HALF STOREY COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE OF APPROXIMATELY 4200 SQUARE FEET AND A DETACHED USE THREE COMMERCIAL TERRACED HOUSE FOR APPROXIMATELY 1100 SQUARE FEET.
HERE IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY AT FRONTS BREWING ROAD ,PEARL STREET AND BURNT CHURCH ROAD AND WE DID CONTACT YOU FOR COUNTY TO SEE IF THERE WERE GOING TO BE ANY IMPROVEMENTS OR ANYTHING REQUIRED OF THE PROPERTY OWNER DUE TO IMPROVEMENTS TO BURNT CHURCH THERE WILL NOT BE EVERYTHING IS FINE A PHOTO OF THE PROPERTY LOOKING AT IT FROM BURNT CHURCH THIS IS PEARL STREET HERE ANOTHER VIEW FROM HER CHURCH LOOKING AT BURNT BURNT CHURCH HERE LOOKING AT BROWN ROAD PROPERTIES CURRENTLY AND THEN FROM PEARL STREET WITHIN ABBEY ROAD'S DEVELOPMENT HERE IS THE SITE PLAN AGAIN IS A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WILL FRONT ONTO PEARL STREET THERE WILL BE A SIDE ENTRANCE ONTO BRUIN ROAD AND THEN THE CARRIAGE WILL THEN ALSO HAVE AN APPEARANCE OF FRONTAGE ON BROWN ROAD BUT THE ACTUAL FRONT OF THE BUILDING WILL FACE INTO THE REAR OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
HERE ARE SOME PERSPECTIVES OF BOTH BUILDINGS AND ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE PARKING LOT ADDITIONAL VIEWS. I'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THE VARIOUS ELEVATIONS OF BOTH BUILDINGS THE FRONT, THE BROWN ROAD ELEVATION YOU CAN SEE A PORCH AND A DOOR ENTRANCE THERE THE PARKING LOT VIEW THE REAR VIEW OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE THE CARRIAGE HOUSE VIEW AGAIN THIS WILL FRONT AND TO THE REAR OR TO THE REAR THE MAIN STRUCTURE THIS IS HOW IT WILL APPEAR FROM BREWIN ROAD THE PARKING LOT VIEW THE BURNT CHURCH ROAD HAVE BUILDING SECTIONS WE NEED TO GO BACK AND SEE THEM ROOF PLANS FLOOR PLANS AS WELL FOR BOTH BUILDINGS WHILE SECTION RAFTER DETAILS DOOR DETAILS WINDOW DETAILS AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AS WELL REVIEW CRITERIA WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE VIDEO EXCEPT FOR THE ITEMS THAT I WILL IDENTIFY HERE IN JUST A MOMENT YOU CAN APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION HAVE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY APPLICANT.
A LOT OF THESE ARE JUST DETAIL ITEMS AND I IN THE FUTURE I'LL COMBINE THEM INSTEAD OF HAVING SO MANY CONDITIONS BECAUSE IT LOOKS A LITTLE MORE SERIOUS THAN IT REALLY IS.
THE ONES I'VE HIGHLIGHTED ARE THE ONES THAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON.
SO WE WANTED TO CONFIRM THE ATTIC STORAGE IN THE MAIN STRUCTURE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A TRUE HAVE STORY AND NEEDS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THERE WAS A SHEET THAT WAS MISSING FROM THE PLANS SET AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT CALCULATION TO CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL STORY OR A TRUE HAVE STORY BE THERE WHAT APPEARS TO BE SLIGHTER WINDOWS AND I'LL GO TO THAT EXCUSE ME FOR BOUNCING AROUND AND TO HEAR THE AND THIS WAS UNCLEAR TO ME WHEN I WAS REVIEWING PLAN THESE APPEAR TO BE SLIGHTER WINDOWS AND I THINK MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THAT AND WE CAN HEAR A THE TRANSOM WINDOW OVER THE DOOR ON THE PEARL STREET ELEVATION AND THAT WAS DONE FOR ANOTHER ELEVATION I BELIEVE ON THE BROOM SO BREWING ROAD ELEVATION BUT NOT ON THE PEARL STREET AGAIN.
LET ME GO BACK TO THAT QUICKLY QUICKLY AND YOU CAN SEE THE TRANSOM WINDOWS TALLER THAN THE ADJACENT WINDOWS WHICH DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE SEE ON A ROAD ELEVATION EIGHT PROVIDE
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MATERIALS STANDARD COMMENT THERE PROVIDE DETAILS FOR THE GARDEN WALLS THAT WERE ABOUT OUR PROPOSED ADJACENT TO PEARL STREET AND BRUIN ROAD THAT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A SCREENING WALL FOR THE PARKING AREA NEEDS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION RELATING TO EXISTING TREES IN THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE REMOVED AND WE ASSURANCE THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A 75% TREE CANOPY COVERAGE AT MATURITY. I BELIEVE THERE IS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT AND WE NEED MAY NEED TO HAVE SOME DIFFERENT TREES PROPOSED TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT THERE ARE SOME LANDSCAPE AND SOME HARDSCAPE PROPOSED IN THE BRUIN ROAD RIGHT AWAY THAT WILL NEED APPROVAL FROM THE STATE BECAUSE THAT IS THE STATE THERE'S ALSO A UTILITY EASEMENT THERE SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN WE HAVE ANY ENCROACHMENTS ARE APPROVED BY THOSE HOLD THOSE EASEMENTS OR THE RIGHT OF WAY OWNER AND WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT ON PEARL STREET WE HAVE A PARKING AREA THE PARKING AREA ON PEARL STREET IS GOING TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE DRIVEWAY CONFIGURATION. SO WE WANT TO BE CERTAIN THAT THAT DRIVEWAY WILL BE ABLE TO HOLD A VEHICLE AND BE 18 FEET IN LENGTH AND THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS THAT WE NEED A DETERMINATION ON AND I'LL GO BACK TO THIS IN JUST A MOMENT. I'LL SHOW YOU THE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT ONE IS THAT THE APPLICATION OF DIFFERENT WALL MATERIALS AT THE GROUND FLOOR ON THE MAIN BUILDING WAS A LITTLE BIT A CONCERN FOR STAFF AND FELT MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT TO BE A DETERMINATION OF THE COMMISSION. AND WE'LL GO BACK TO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT AND ALSO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SMOOTH FACE HARDY PANEL FOR SOME OF THE STAFF AND IT'S WHICH IS NOT PERMITTED BY UDL SO THOSE TWO ITEMS WOULD NEED A DETERMINATION AND LET ME GO BACK QUICKLY TO SHOW YOU THE WALL THE MAIN BUILDING AND YOU CAN SEE AND FOR BOTH THE PROPOSED THE CARRIAGE HOUSE IN THE MAIN HOUSE YOU CAN SEE THIS KIND OF BASE DETAIL AROUND THE BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING AND IT'S A BORAL BOARD BASE AND BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT MATERIAL FROM THE HARDIE PLANK STAFF WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF THE COMMISSION WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO THE APPROPRIATENESS OF GOING THROUGH THAT PRETTY QUICKLY WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS AND THEN THOSE TWO DETERMINATIONS THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR A STAFF SO THE YOU MENTIONED THAT PARKING SPOT ON THE ON STREET PARKING SPOT NEEDED TO BE 18 FEET IF THAT IS NOT 18 FEET DEEP THEY NEED THAT TO COUNT FOR THE PARKING COURSE. I DIDN'T SEE THE PARKING.COULD THEY DO THEY'RE OFF STREET THEY DO COMPLY WITH THE OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE RECONFIGURED THAT PARKING SPACE I'M TRYING TO FIND MY LANDSCAPE PLAN SO THAT COULD JUST BE GRASS IT COULD BE WE'LL WORK WITH TABBY ROADS WITH THE HAARP ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT PARTICULAR SPACE AND THAT'S THEIR PRIVATE SO THEY CAN MAKE THE DETERMINATION WHAT TO DO WITH THAT AND YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT HERE. RIGHT? YOU SEE THE DRIVEWAY APRON IT'S A LITTLE SHAPED FOR THE PARKING AREA OR PARKING SPACE RATHER.
ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES, SARAH COUPLE HERE. SCOTT ARCHITECTS AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR WE COULD THROUGH THE LIST OF STAFF QUESTIONS ALSO WOULD YOUR STATEMENT IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS ON HER COMMENTS? YEAH, I HAVE THAT GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY FOR THAT.
ALL RIGHT. SO THE FIRST QUESTION WAS MAKE SURE THE SERVICE YARDS ARE LARGE ENOUGH. I HAVE SIZE THOSE AND PUT MECHANICAL UNITS IN THERE AND METERS AND ALL THAT. AND THE SECOND ONE WAS ABOUT THE ATTIC STORAGE UP ABOVE.
SO IT'S KIND OF A POOR PLAN MAYBE. OKAY ALL RIGHT.
ACTUALLY THE BUILDING SECTION BE BETTER. ALL RIGHT.
SO THIS IS ALL UNDER THE ROOF. THERE ARE NO WINDOWS UP THERE. THE KNEE WALLS ARE FIVE FOOT SIX TALL ON THE ENDS. AND WHAT WE'RE INTENDING THIS FOR IS THE CLIENTS WANT TO HAVE STORAGE SPACE UP THERE AND THEN ALSO CARVED OUT A SECTION OF IT FOR MECHANICAL UNITS.
SO BUT IF YOU NEED A FLOOR PLAN OF THAT I CAN CERTAINLY THAT SO YOU CAN DOUBLE CHECK BUT THAT
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WAS THE INTENTION WE'RE NOT IT'S NOT USABLE SPACE UP THERE AND THEN NEXT QUESTION IS EXPOSED CONCRETE FOUNDATIONS SHALL BE TABBY STUCCO. MOST OF OUR FOUNDATION IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE GROUND SAME SO BUT WE DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF ON THE PROPERTY FROM PEARL STREET BACK TO BURNT CHURCH. SO I'VE RAISED THE ACCESSORY BUILDING I THINK ABOUT A FOOT MOVING 18 INCHES HIGHER THAN THE FRONT BUILDING GUESS THE OVER HERE THE OVERALLS. SO IF YOU CAN SEE AND ONE OF THE TWO BOTTOM PICTURES THE ACCESSORY BUILDING A BIT HIGHER THAN THE PRIMARY BUILDING IN THE FRONT AND BECAUSE OF THIS AND EGRESS AND TO GET ADA INTO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WE HAVE WE'VE ENDED UP WITH A SMALL RAMP AT THE FRONT AND THEN THE FRONT IS RAISED UP I THINK IT'S 18 INCHES SO I WILL CALL OUT HADN'T LABELED THAT AS TABU STUCCO THERE UNDER THAT FRONT PORCH I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE ON THE PROPERTY THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY TAVISTOCK AS FAR AS THE BORAL DETAIL THOUGH THE INTENTIONS AT THAT GOES TO GRADE WHETHER IT'S APPLIED OR THE FOUNDATION YEAH THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO USE THE BORAL SO THAT IT'S NOT AFFECTED BY BEING CLOSE TO THE DIRT OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE A NICE SOLUTION FOR THAT. THAT ALSO EVOLVED BECAUSE THE BOARD AT ABBEY ROADS REALLY WANTED US TO THIS BUILDING THREE FEET TALL TO MATCH ALL THE HOUSES AROUND IT I GUESS IS THE FIRST COMMERCIAL BUILDING GOING IN THERE BUT THIS LOT IS ZONED FOR IT IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST LOTS INTO ABBEY ROADS AND SO AS A COMPROMISE WE PROPOSED THIS BASE SO THAT IT WILL HAVE THE PRESENCE OF A TALL BASE LIKE THE NEIGHBORS.BUT WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IT CLOSER TO THE GROUND. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS THE IDEA THERE SOUNDED COOL. ALL RIGHT SO FOURTH QUESTION I NEED TO CALL OUT THE STAIR AND RAMP MATERIALS AND THE HANDRAIL MATERIALS AND YES THAT NOTE IS MISSING.
I'VE SINCE ADDED I CAN PROVIDE THAT THE STAIRS ARE ALL BRICK AND THE STAIRS WE HAVE ARE HERE AT THE FRONT AND THERE'S A RAMP THAT'S INSET INTO THE FRONT PORCH WHICH YOU CAN SEE BETTER FROM THE FLOOR PLAN BUT YOU CAN GET A HINT OF YOU KNOW THE MINIMUM METAL HANDRAIL FOR THE RAMP AND ALSO HANDRAIL THAT'S JUST METAL FOR THE STAIRS TO OKAY SHAKING THAT A MAN OR PLAN SO OVER HERE THIS IS ALSO TO HAVE THE SAME FINISH AS THE PORCH BUT THAT'S THE BRICK EDGE AT THE TOP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
THE ONE SAYS PROVIDE A DOOR SCHEDULE WITH MATERIALS TO SHOW COMPLIANCE YOUDO WE DID HAVE A DOOR SCHEDULE AND ALL THE EXTERIOR DOORS ARE CALLED OUT AS EITHER WOOD OR METAL CLAD AND. WE WERE HOPING THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE.
THE THE FRONT DOORS WOULD AND I BELIEVE ALL THE OTHER SECONDARY ARE JUST METAL CLAD.
OKAY. NUMBER SIX THE SLIDER WINDOWS THESE ARE NOT SLIDERS THEY'RE ACTUALLY ON WINDOWS. SEE? SEE THAT LOCATION LOCATION? SO THESE TWO A WINDOWS ARE SMALLER HIGH AWNING WINDOWS PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT'S THE SERVICE YARD AND I DIDN'T REALLY NEED THAT OFFICE AND AND A ROOM LOOKING OUT ONTO THAT SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE THERE THE FRONT DOOR THE THE DIFFERENCE IN HEIGHT WAS PAUL WAS ASKED ABOUT WE WOULD PREFER TO LEAVE THIS HIGHER DOOR HIGHER DOOR ASSEMBLY AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WE THOUGHT IT NEEDS A BIT OF A HIERARCHY AND HISTORICALLY BUILDINGS DON'T HAVE THEIR DOOR ASSEMBLIES IN THEIR WINDOWS NECESSARILY IN LINE AND THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL AND I DO HAVE PICTURES OF THAT HAPPENING ALL OVER DOWNTOWN HERE BOSTON SO I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT THAT IS APPROVED OR THAT'S OKAY THAT THAT IS THE MAIN TO THE BUILDING AND THEN THE OTHER PORCH IS JUST KIND OF THE OTHER PORCH IS JUST SECONDARY EGRESS ACCESS BUT NOT INTENDED TO BE USED ON A DAILY BASIS. OKAY.
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THE MATERIAL FOR THE GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS TO BE METAL THE SAYS PROVIDE DETAILS FOR THE GARDEN WALL THERE ARE DETAILS ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE LANDSCAPE PLANS AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE PACKET BUT I DOUBLE CHECKED AND THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE LANDSCAPE PLANS AND THEN THERE'S NOTE ABOUT PROVIDING A SITE AND SURVEY SHOWING THE TREE THE SIZE OF TREES AND EVERYTHING. WE DID SUBMIT THAT I DOUBLE CHECKED AND THAT WASN'T IN THIS PACKET BUT WE HAVE SUBMITTED THE SITE PLAN AND THEN ANY TREES THAT WERE TO BE REMOVED THAT WAS ALL NOTED ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND HE HAD CHARTS OFF TO THE SIDE AND I THE PLAN WAS PRESENTED HERE BUT HE DID HAVE CHARTS OFF TO THE SIDE TALKING ABOUT TREE COVERAGE AND EVERYTHING. SO IF THERE'S MORE I WASN'T SURE IT WAS A GENERAL NOTE OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING MORE SPECIFICALLY YOU SAW AND I'M HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND GET A CLARIFICATION AND PROVIDE OF ANY APPROVAL OF LANDSCAPING OR HARDSCAPE BEING IN THE STATE OWNED RIGHT AWAY. SO COMING BACK TO THE SITE PLAN ALL RIGHT. SO THE RIGHT OF WAY ACTUALLY WHEN I SHOW THIS ON LAND, ANY PLANS OR SIGNS? WELL, ALL RIGHT. SO THE RIGHT AWAY IS PRETTY MUCH WE'RE SITTING ON THE RIGHT OF WAY WITH THE PRIMARY BUILDING AND TOWARDS BRUIN STREET. SO YES, THERE ARE PLANTINGS CALLED OUT THERE.THE ONLY HARDSCAPE WE HAVE ARE THE TWO SIDEWALK THAT WOULD CONNECT WITH THE EXISTING SIDEWALK RUNNING ALONG BRUIN ROAD AND SO I GUESS I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S A IT'S A STAFF RECOMMENDATION SYSTEM. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. BUT YEAH WE'RE HAPPY TO CHECK ON THAT.
WE WERE JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THE KIND OF THE PLANTING THAT WERE REQUIRED AROUND THE BUILDINGS AND THEN THE ON STREET PARKING THAT WAS DISCUSSED ON PEARL STREET.
WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THIS VIEW IS ACTUALLY THE UNDERLAYMENT OF THE EXISTING SURVEY.
THAT SITE HAS BEEN NOTED AND LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THE ARCHITECTURAL SITE PLAN THAT IT'S BEING REMOVED. TERRY RHOADES IS AWARE OF THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE ADDED TWO ADDITIONAL SPOTS IN OUR LOT TO HELP EASE THE CONCERNS OF TABBY ROADS THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANYBODY PARKED ON THE STREET BUT THERE JUST THERE WASN'T ANY ROOM BY THE TIME WE HAD THE DRIVE WITH THAT WE NEEDED AND THEN WE STILL HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN DISTANCE OFF OF THE STATE OWNED ROAD WHICH IS BRUIN ROAD FROM THE CORNER THERE WE DIDN'T HAVE MANY OPTIONS FOR THAT SO THAT PARKING SPOT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE IF THERE'S EXTERIOR LIGHTING TO BE PROVIDED PROVIDE A LIGHTING PLAN. I DID PROVIDE A PLAN THAT SHOWED THE BUILDING ELECTRICAL PLAN WITH THE EXTERIOR LIGHTS BUT WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON ANY PARKING LOT LIGHTING AT THIS POINT AND WE KNOW SIGNAGE IS A SEPARATE APPLICATION AND THEN THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE PUT TO STAFF WERE ONE ABOUT THE BORAL FOUNDATION MATERIAL AND THE USE OF SMOOTH FACE HARDIE PANEL UNDER THE SURFACE. SO THANK YOU.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO JUMP BACK QUICKLY ON A COUPLE OF THE MENTIONED COMMENTS.
I THINK STAFF APPRECIATE IT. IF YOU GUYS WOULD JUST DO A QUICK DIAGRAM IN THE ATTIC TO SHOW THE 70 YOU'RE UNDER THE 70% THAT'S EASY. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
I HAVE A GARDEN WALL DETAIL I SEE THAT BUT IT'S KIND OF DIMENSIONLESS SO I THINK IS THAT IN THERE IT LOOKS PRETTY OKAY SO I'VE GOT THE PLANS UP SEPARATELY HERE.
OKAY. HAVE THEM ADD MORE DETAIL OR INFORMATION TO WHAT WE NEED IS TO SHOW THAT IT'S AT LEAST 20 50% OPAQUE. WAS IT THE METRO CHARLOTTE JUST THEY'VE GOT THE SHE'S GOT THE IN HERE OKAY THAT 15 515 SIX K HAS A AS A METRIC TO IT FOR THE AMOUNT OF OPACITY OF THAT WALL JUST A CALCULATION THERE ON THE SOLID VOID APPRECIATED AND THEN HIS HE DID PROVIDE A TREE CANOPY COVERAGE BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE ON THAT HE HAS CALCULATIONS ON THAT SHEET BUT THAT DON'T APPEAR TO BE THE TREE.
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OKAY SO THERE'S LIKE A GREEN SHADED PLAN BUT. THE ONLY NOTE ON THERE SAYS 53% AND I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHETHER THAT IS LIGHT COVERAGE OR WHETHER YOU'RE SHORT ON THE TREE CANOPY. SO OKAY. I THINK WE DO KIND OF ADDRESS OUR CLARITY IN THAT TRADEMARK APPLICATION AGAIN. OKAY.THEN THE LIGHTING PLAN FOR EXTERIOR LIGHTING CHARLOTTE THAT IS JUST PARKING LIGHTING AND SAY LIGHT ANY CHANGE TO PORCH LIGHT PORCH MOUNTED LIGHTING.
YEAH, THE PORCH METRICS AREN'T REQUIRED RIGHT. OKAY.
OKAY THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AND AS RELEVANT FOR THE PARKING LOT THAT BIG IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN A PARKING LOT THAT BIG IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS? WELL, I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW BIG THE LOT WAS UNTIL I SAW THE DRAWING. YEAH, BECAUSE OF THE USE WE NEED TO HAVE SOME THAT PARKING BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO COVER THAT SO WE'RE ACTUALLY LOSING TWO SPOTS ON THE STREET SO WE ADDED THOSE. YES IT'S A PARKING LOT COMMERCIAL IN GENERAL HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE WITH ABBEY ROAD TWO AND WE MET ALL THE HANDICAPPED BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS AN ISSUE LAST MONTH. YOU KNOW. YEAH SO YEAH THEY'VE GOT TWO HELICOPTERS FIVE DOWN IN THE PROPERTY I'M GETTING MR. FRAZIER AND THEY COME TO I MEAN TOUCHING SOME OF THE FRONT DOOR. I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE WHAT YOU SAY IS WOULD WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE MORE MAHOGANY OR I THINK BECAUSE THAT'S A SPECIAL ELEMENT I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE THAT BEING OVER THE PAUL I, I APPRECIATE THE UNIQUE DETAIL ON THAT I DON'T AN ISSUE WITH THAT I THINK IT WORKS FINE WITH IT WE GO TO FRONT ELEVATION OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE AND I SAID OH THAT ONE IS THERE REASON YOU COULDN'T HAVE A WINDOW ABOVE THAT DOOR THAT JUST LOOKS LIKE A BLANK WALL? YEAH IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ON PLAN THERE'S ANY ISSUE WITH THAT JUST FEELS LIKE IT'S TO BLAME FOR THAT INJURY. YEAH NO THAT'S FINE YEAH WE JUST FROM A PROGRAM STANDPOINT DIDN'T NEED ONE. IF WE DO ADD ONE THERE WILL PROBABLY ADD ONE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE TO THAT THAT'S FINE. I JUST IT FEELS LIKE IT'S ALL TO BLAME THE INJURY AND THEN ONE LAST THING ON THE IF CAN GO TO THERE'S THE PORCH SECTION I LIKE A BUILDING SECTION ON THE WALL SECTION. YEAH RIGHT THERE.
OKAY. YEAH THOSE PORCH I THINK THAT THE SLAB NEEDS TO BE MOVED OUT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT'S A COLUMN IS RIGHT ON THAT EDGE OF IT AND THEN THE TRIM IS BEYOND THE EDGE OF THE ACTUAL I MEAN ONCE THAT BREAKS THERE YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE A QUARTER INCH I THINK THE SLAB NEEDS TO MOVE MOVED OUT IT'S TOO FAR TOO FAR IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE EDGE I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING THE COLUMN OKAY YEAH I MEAN TYPICALLY WHAT WE WOULD AIM FOR IS THE FACE OF THE COLUMN ALIGN WITH THE FACE OF THE OF THE STRUCTURE BELOW WITH THE CONCRETE AND THEN BY THE TIME WE'VE ADDED THAT BASE IT DOES APPEAR TO BE FURTHER YEAH I THINK THIS BE FINE WE COULD EXTEND IT YOU KNOW MAYBE ATTACH JUST DON'T WANT THAT I MEAN REALITY YOU KNOW IT COULD GET BUILT OVER IT AND THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT YEAH WE HAVE THE BASE ON YEAH THAT'S JUST OVER THE BREAK. WELL I IT HAS ANOTHER INCH AND A HALF BEFORE IT GETS TO THE BRICK BUT OR AT LEAST AN INCH SORRY BUT I'VE EXTENDED THE BRICK TWO INCHES BEYOND THE CONCRETE BUT YEAH WE CAN I WOULD JUST LIKE THAT MAKE SURE THAT'S EVERYWHERE. I THINK THE PLAN HERE FLEXIBLE LITTLE BIT KIND OF REFLECTS THAT YEAH THAT'S FINE YOU DO SEE IT A LOT THAT THAT CAN'T GET OVER GETS TOO CLOSE YEAH I HAD TWO QUESTIONS ONE JUST LOOKING AT THIS THE SECTION WITH THE AURAL DETAILS HAS THAT STOPPING AT THE SLAB. YES, I ACTUALLY HAVE SINCE REDLINED THIS AND MODIFIED THE DETAIL IT NEEDS TO BE AND IT DOES CHANGE AS GRADE GOING ALONG THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING BUT I WAS HOPING THAT IT WOULD BE WITHIN AN INCH OF FINISHED GRADE.
I WANTED A FULL BOARD AT THE BOTTOM ESSENTIALLY BUT I DID ALSO WE WOULD TO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE WHERE AND I THINK WE'RE IN A I DON'T WANT A FOUNDATION START AND YEAH I'VE ALSO ADDED A NOTE HERE IN THE DETAIL THAT SAYS WHEREVER ANY CONCRETE MIGHT EXPOSED IT NEEDS
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TO BE A HAPPY FINISH. SO OKAY BUT YEAH THAT'S THE INTENTION IS FOR IT TO ESSENTIALLY GO INTO THE GROUND IN A BORROW MATERIAL CAN HAVE THAT EXPOSURE WE'RE NOT IN AN APARTMENT FALLING APART AS A DETAIL AT THE LAST SECOND NO WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE THIS DETAIL A COUPLE OF TIMES AND BORAL IS NOT BOTHERED ALL BY BY DIRT. OKAY ON THE GROUND RIGHT QUESTION ON THE THE OF THE TWO BUILDING OR ONE IS A 712 THE MAIN BUILDING IS A 712 PITCH AND THEN THE ACCESSORY BUILDING IS EIGHT AND 12 AND I WAS CURIOUS WHAT BECAUSE THEY'RE BASICALLY THE SAME DETAIL. YEAH WOULD SEE THAT EVOLVED A COUPLE OF TIMES DON'T REMEMBER WHY OH I THINK IT ALL USED TO BE EIGHT ACTUALLY AND THEN WE WERE AT A HEIGHT ISSUE WHERE WITHIN LIKE TWO INCHES OF THE HEIGHT THAT WE CAN BE I THINK FOR THE PRIMARY BUILDING THAT THEY WANT TO THESTORY WOULD LIKE IT LOWERED I, I HADN'T NOTICED THAT BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE OF THOSE MATCHED GIVEN THEIR DETAILING LOOK VERY SIMILAR.YEAH I THINK YEAH THAT'S ALL RIGHT THEN I'LL JUST LOWER THE ACCESSORY NOT RAISE THE MEAN MEAN IF ANY OTHER ACTUALLY MIGHT HAVE BEEN LIKE ■A SECTION OF THAT MIGHT HAVE A MECHANICAL THINKING IT AND A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM ON THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS DO HAVE A MOTION INFORMATION OR WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BEING ABLE TO YOU GUYS LIKE TO ADD AND I DID WRITE THEM DOWN I HOPE I HAVE THEM ALL THE WINDOW TO ADD A WINDOW ABOVE FOR THE CARRIAGE HOUSE AT A WINDOW ABOVE THE DOOR AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER WINDOW THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED OPPOSITE SIDE TO MOVE THE SLAB OUT SLIGHTLY FROM THE COLUMN 1 TO 2 INCHES AND THEN TO MATCH ROUTE PITCHES AND LOWER THE CARRIAGE HOUSE ROOF PITCH AND FOR THE LET'S SEE I GET I HAD THAT WE WERE STRIKING STAFF NUMBER SIX THE SLIDER WINDOWS AND NUMBER SEVEN THE FRONT DOOR TRANSOM CORRECT AND I BELIEVE AT LEAST IT AND THE EXTERIOR AND TO ALLOW THE END ALLOW THE BALL MATERIAL PRESENCE THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE WITH THE NEW CONDITIONS CORRECT AND WE ALSO NEED HAVE A FINDINGS ON NUMBER 16 AND 17 AND THE FINDINGS ON NUMBER 1617 I DO WANT TO SAY THE FINAL HE STARTED THE MOTION BUT.
ALL RIGHT. SO MOTION TO APPROVE WITH STAFF CONDITIONS PLUS THE ADDITIONS PER AND THE APPLICATION OF THE DIFFERENT WALL MATERIALS IN THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE MAIN BUILDING IN THE CARRIAGE HOUSE AS WELL AS THE USE OF THE BORROW MATERIAL PLUS THE USE OF SMOOTH FACE HARDY PANEL FOR SOME SURFACE OF A SECOND IN ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR I THE MOTION PASSES RIGHT NOW YOU WANT TO ASSERT DISTRICT MONTHLY UPDATE SO WE'VE HAD FEW
[VIII.1. Historic District Monthly Update. (Staff)]
SITE FEATURE APPLICATIONS MOSTLY RELATED TO SIGNAGE ONE AT RESIDENTIAL EVENTS AND FOR EXTERIOR REPAIR THE REMOVAL OF AN UNSAFE CHIMNEY AT HAYWARD HOUSE SO MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN APPROVED. THE ONLY ONE THAT'S ON HOLD RIGHT NOW IS THE FENCE FOR 3200 AVENUE AND A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOW MONTH BUT THAT'S IT AND ANY QUESTIONS HAS A CARPORT DISCUSSION GOING ANY FURTHER? NOT YET. IT'S A MATTER OF TIME IN THE[01:20:03]
HOLIDAYS. SO WE'RE WE HAVE AN INTERN RIGHT NOW SO WE'RE GOING TO START DOING OUR REVIEW INVENTORY ON THE CARPORTS AND OLD TOWN.AND SO BASED ON THAT INFORMATION THEN WE'LL START IDENTIFYING WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GO FORWARD. OKAY. AND WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THE STUDIO DOCUMENT TO BE IT IT WE RECEIVED IT TODAY. I JUST NEED TO GO THROUGH TO MAKE CERTAIN IT MATCHES WHAT WAS APPROVED THE ORDINANCE I NEED TO DO THE COMPARISON HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. YOU'RE GOING TO REALLY LIKE IT WHEN YOU SEE IT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY EASY TO USE. OH GREAT AND WILL TELL YOU ALSO WE ARE GOING HAVE A FEBRUARY HPC MEETING. WE ARE YOU KNOW IT WAS A COUNCIL.
NO, I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE IN ADVANCE IN CASE YOU'VE GOT PLANS HERE.
I THERE ARE TWO ITEMS RIGHT NOW. ONE IS SARAH RILEY HEARD.
OKAY, GOOD. ALL RIGHT. TO THE NEXT MEETING DATE WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 5TH. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? AND I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN OUR MOTION TO ADJOURN ANY SECOND AGAIN ALL IN FAVOR
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