Nov 25, 2024 Finance Administration and Economic Development Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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I LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER SORRY I'M A LITTLE BIT LATE ACTUALLY TRAFFIC WASN'T BAD. I'M GLAD WE DIDN'T PASS THAT $0.01 JUST TO JUMP AT THE JOKE.

THAT WAS WHAT I WAS JUST YOURSELF LAST TIME I DIDN'T FINISH MY SENTENCE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AGAIN WELCOME YOU TO THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TODAY IS MONDAY, NOVEMBER 25TH, 2024. IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE RISE FOR A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO ■THE WAY FOR WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

[3. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT]

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

IF I CAN ASK SOMEONE TO APPROVE OUR AGENDA TODAY I'LL MAKE THE MOTION BECAUSE NICK IS THERE A SECOND PLACE? A SECOND, MR. GLOVER AND ANY DISCUSSIONS? NO DISCUSSION. WE WILL APPROVE THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES- October 28, 2024]

I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THOSE MINUTES? SEEING NO DISCUSSION WE WILL APPROVE WITHOUT OBJECTION AND

[6. CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD- 15 MINUTES TOTAL]

I HAVE HELD THAT POSITION FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS AND HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THAT BODY SINCE DECEMBER 2014. I'M ASKING YOU TODAY TO REAPPOINT MR. PATRICK MITCHELL TO THE STORMWATER UTILITY BOARD FOR ANOTHER TERM. PATRICK HAS AN EXEMPLARY ATTENDANCE RECORD AND CONTRIBUTED GREATLY TO THE ISSUES THAT ARISE ON LADIES AND STORMWATER ISSUES IN GENERAL IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCILMAN BARTHOLOMEW HAS PROPOSED A NEW RESIDENT OF BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR A SEAT ON THIS BOARD.

I APPLAUD MR. PRESNELL FOR APPLYING WHAT HIS BACKGROUND AS AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER WILL NOT ADD ANY NEEDED EXPERTIZE IN THE STORMWATER REVIEWS. I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD AS THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING AND IT IS OBVIOUS THAT LADIES ISLAND NEEDS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT BOARD. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT SOLID WASTE DID NOT MEET FOR OVER A YEAR BECAUSE THE LACK OF MEMBERS IT IS MY OPINION THAT THE COUNTY WOULD BE BETTER SERVED IF PATRICK MITCHELL WAS REAPPOINTED TO THE STORMWATER UTILITY BOARD AND MR. PRESNELL WAS APPOINTED TO THE OPEN SEAT REPRESENTING LADIES ISLAND ON THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING BOARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? I CAN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS. NO MA'AM.

THANK YOU FOR COMING FRECHETTE YOU BEING HERE ALL RIGHT? ANY OTHER CITIZENS COMMENTS?

[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT]

GOOD AFTERNOON. WE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS THAT COVERED DURING THE ACA REPORT BUT FIRST IT'S MY PLEASURE INTRODUCE TO YOU YOUR NEW COUNTY CFO.

THANK YOU, HARRIET. SHE'S WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT THIS IS THE LAST FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE YEAR AND HER FIRST DAY OF WORK. SHE HAD ORIENTATION THIS MORNING, GOT VISIT HER NEW OFFICE FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES LOGGED IN TO HER COMPUTER AND HER PHONE WITH A THOUSAND MESSAGES AND VISIT TO MY OFFICE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

AND NOW HERE SHE IS TO SEE YOU FOR QUICKLY ABOUT ABOUT PINKY. SHE WILL ALSO BE AT THE

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SO YES I DID. SHE'S HIDING BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T TO SO PINKY IS A CERTIFIED GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICER G FOIA CERTIFICATION SHE RECENTLY WAS THE VICE CHANCELLOR OF FINANCE AND HUMAN RESOURCES FOR UCB. PRIOR TO THAT SHE WORKED COUNTY AS OUR BUDGET MANAGER ONE OF THOSE YEARS THAT SHE WAS A BUDGET MANAGER FOR COUNTY WE ACHIEVED A PRESTIGIOUS AWARD FOR HER WORK AMONG HER OTHER EXPERTIZE AND TALENTS.

SHE IS ALSO PROVEN TO BE A GREAT LEADER SO WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH HER TECHNICAL EXPERTIZE AND FINANCE AS WELL AS SOMETHING SOMEONE WHO HAS PROVEN TO BE A GOOD TO HELP OUR FINANCE TEAM IMPROVE AND GROW. PINKY DO YOU WANT TO SAY HELLO? DID SHE LEAVE BEHIND SHARON? HOW ARE YOU? GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE. I'M GLAD TO BE A PART OF THE TEAM HERE. LOOK FORWARD TO PUTTING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TOGETHER.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. WELCOME US HERE. WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE SO THANK . SO IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE'LL CONTINUE TO TO TRANSITION AND BY THE NEXT FINANCE SHE WILL BE UP TO SPEED AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO HEAR FROM ME AGAIN.

IT'LL BE AWESOME. I WILL I WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COUNTY AS AS PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR AND NOT AS IN FINANCE AS I HAVE BEEN. ALL RIGHT.

IF WE PUT UP THE PRESENTATION WHEN WE HAVE PLEASE OFFICE NO THE THE POWERPOINT FORUM FINANCE THAT'S THE ONE. EXCELLENT. OH, RIGHT RIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO START WITH WITH A FEW MINUTES I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT BLUFFTON, MISSISSIPPI.

THEN WE'LL FOLLOW AND I'LL DO A QUICK PROCUREMENT SERVICES UPDATE DAVE THOMAS WHO IS OUT TODAY SO I'LL DO THAT FOR HIM FOLLOWED BY THAT VALERIE IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR TRANSFERS AND THEN FINALLY END THE ACA REPORT WITH CHRISTINE. HE WAS GOING TO ABOUT OUR COUNTY FUNDS LIKE WE HAVE DONE A FEW TIMES IN THE PAST SO THE BLUFFTON MCP THIS IS A MULTI COUNTY INDUSTRIAL PARK THIS THE MULTI COUNTY INDUSTRIAL PARK BEGAN CONVERSATIONS THE FIRST ORDINANCE FOR THE PARK WAS IN 2008 IT WAS UPDATED AGAIN WITH BY ORDINANCE IN 2013 AND THEN AGAIN IN 2018 AND THERE'S A FEW NOT ONLY ORDINANCES BUT MILIEUS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT PROCESS EARLIER THIS YEAR AND IN JUNE THE COUNTY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM BLUFFTON, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. THE ATTORNEY CLAIMING THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCREPANCIES IN THE THE PAYMENTS OF THE MISSISSIPPI THAT BLUFFTON SHOULD RECEIVE.

SO THE COUNTY RECEIVED THAT LETTER WE WORKED WITH OUR ATTORNEY THEN TOM CARBONE WHO HAD KNOWLEDGE THAT MISSISSIPPI AND AS YOU CAN SEE WELL AS YOU AS YOU JUST HEARD THIS IS FROM 2008 WITH SEVERAL REVISIONS IN BETWEEN SO WAS HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF DOCUMENTS TO GO AND UNDERSTAND HOW EACH ONE OF THOSE CHANGES AFFECTED THE CALCULATION THE MISSISSIPPI SO THAT TOOK US ABOUT SIX WEEKS TO GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS SO WE DID OUR OWN ANALYSIS OF THE OF THE MISSISSIPPI AND THE ANALYSIS WE RECEIVED FROM BLUFFTON ATTORNEY.

THERE WERE STILL SOME SOME DIFFERENCES AND THE TWO INTERPRETATIONS.

SO AT THAT POINT I REACHED OUT TO TO TOWN OF BLUFFTON REACH OUT TO CHRIS FORESTER.

CHRIS FORESTER HIS TEAM ALONG WITH MYSELF AND CHRISTINE MATT WE WENT ALL OF THESE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER AND WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT OF HOW TO PROPERLY INTERPRET IT EACH ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS AS WE WENT FORWARD WHICH WAS REALLY CRITICAL TO GET DONE THE INTERPRETATION OF THOSE DOCUMENTS IS THE FOUNDATION FOR HOW THE FUNDING IS CALCULATED.

SO THEY WENT BACK AND DID THEIR CALCULATIONS. WE WENT BACK AND DID OUR CALCULUS AND WE RESOLVED THAT THE MCP OWE THE BLUFFTON TOWNSHIP OVER $400,000 ABOUT

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I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION AN EMAIL CONVERSATION WITH CHRIS FORESTER FROM BLUFFTON ON FRIDAY AND LET HIM KNOW THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION YOU AND DISCUSSED THIS COLLABORATIVE EFFORT THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST WELL NEARLY SIX MONTHS AT THIS POINT TO TO THIS TO THIS POSITION. THIS WAS NOT AN EASY TASK AT ALL.

THE COMPLEXITY OF THE MCI TOOK US QUITE A WHILE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE BOTH COMFORTABLE ON EACH AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A THIS WAS A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF THE ORIGINAL INTENT. MR. CHAIRMAN. I GUESS I WAS I WAS REALLY LOST AND EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID SO CAN YOU CAN YOU DO AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF YOU JUST SAID? I CERTAINLY CAN. I'VE GOT QUITE A BIT INFORMATION IN WRITING.

I DON'T NEED THE DETAILS. YES, SIR. EXECUTIVE SO CAN GET YOU A COUPLE PAGE DOCUMENT THAT OUTLINES THAT FOR ME YOU KNOW AS PART OF THIS PROCESS AND I CAN TELL YOU WHAT TOOK US QUITE LONG TO GET TO GET HERE IS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS OF THIS THROUGHOUT PROCESS OF THIS INTERPRETATION THERE WAS VERY LITTLE WRITTEN DOWN.

SO WE HAD TO GO BACK THROUGH AND INTERPRET THE WAY WERE DONE VERSUS THE VERSUS THE MCI.

SO WHAT WE DID WELL WHAT WE COMMITTED TO DOING WAS ONCE WE SETTLED THIS TO PUT IT ALL IN WRITING SO ALL THE DETAILS ARE THERE SO PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW CAN UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT HERE.

THERE'S ONLY A FEW YEARS LEFT OF THE MCI BUT THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO DO IT RIGHT.

SO THAT IS THERE AND UNTIL WE CAN FORESEE IP WHAT IS A MULTI COUNTY INDUSTRIAL PARK SO THIS ONE IS REFERRED TO AS THE BLUFFTON MULTI-COUNTY INDUSTRIAL PARK.

THERE'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY INVOLVED IN THAT THAT IS BEHIND OUR MYRTLE PARK BUILDING AS WELL AS THE CULINARY ARTS CENTER WHICH WAS ADDED TO IT IN 2018 AND SOME OF THAT WILL YES SIR. THAT WAS PART OF THAT ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.

WELL, THEY CONNECTED. IT IS PART OF THE OF THE MULTI-COUNTY INDUSTRIAL PARK PART OF THAT FUNDING? YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

SO WE GET THAT FOR YOU. SO SO OUR NEXT MOVE ON THAT IS WE'RE GOING TO FOR YOU TO COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION. IS THAT YES, SIR, IT DOES. OKAY.

YES, SIR. WE WE WILL EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE IN THE IN THE MCI IP AS AS JUNE COMES AROUND THAT REVENUE COMES IN FROM THAT EMPTY IP. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REVENUE THIS YEAR REVENUE WILL THE CURRENT EXPENSES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GREATER DEFICIT AS MOST MCI CHIPS THE THE MULTICORE INDUSTRIAL PARK THEY REACHED THE END OF THEIR LIFETIME SO THIS ONE WOULD EXPIRE IN 2028 THEN THE THE THE REVENUE VERSUS THE EXPENSES TENDS TO GET VERY, VERY CLOSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE THEY'RE NOT BUILDING MORE THINGS AND THEY'RE NOT GENERATING ADDITIONAL REVENUE SO IT WILL GET TIGHTER AND TIGHTER AS WE AS WE CONTINUE FORWARD.

BUT THAT WILL BE THE NEXT THING WE DO IS ANALYZE WHAT THE NEXT FOUR YEARS LOOKS LIKE, WHAT WE THINK, WHETHER THE EXPENSES WILL COVER ITSELF OR THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL DEFICIT.

WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THIS YEAR. IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ALSO INVOLVED? YES, SIR. SO PART OF THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT I BELIEVE IT'S 125,000 THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GETS FROM THAT BECAUSE THE TAX BURDEN, THE TAXES THEY WOULD RECEIVE FROM THAT ARE DEFERRED. SO SO WE PART OF THAT AGREEMENT IS TO SUPPORT THE TAX SCHOOL DISTRICT. YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT PROCUREMENT SERVICES.

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SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS THE PROCUREMENT SERVICES HAS BEEN WORKING TO CONSOLIDATE SOME OF OUR PURCHASING PROGRAMS AND OUR SUBSCRIPTIONS.

SO OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN DONE RECENTLY THIS WAS IMPLEMENTED IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS TRAINING WAS DONE FOR STAFF ON FRIDAY IS WE WE CLOSED WELL NOT NECESSARILY BUT CONSOLIDATED ALL OF COUNTY'S AMAZON INTO ONE CORPORATE ACCOUNT.

WHAT THIS DOES NOW FUNNELS ALL OF THOSE PURCHASES THROUGH ONE THROUGH THE FINANCE OFFICE THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT OFFICE . SO ONE DEPARTMENT AND SEE EVERY AMAZON PURCHASE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND THAT THOSE PURCHASES TO MAKE SURE THEY COMPLY WITH OUR NEW CODE . SO THIS IS A GREAT THING FOR US RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE ONLY MAKING THOSE PURCHASES THROUGH P.O. SO THROUGH A PURCHASE ORDER AND ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND EVERYONE KNOWS HOW IT WORKS PROPERLY THEN WE'LL OPEN THOSE BACK UP TO PICARD PURCHASES. BUT WE'RE GOING TO BABY STEP THROUGH THIS PROCESS. YES, MA'AM. THIS IS WHAT ABOUT ELECTED ELECTED OFFICIALS? DO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN NAME WAS ON ACCOUNT SO WE OFFERED THE SAME CORPORATE AMAZON ACCOUNT TO ALL OF ELECTEDS AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE THEY HAVE ALL AGREED USE THAT ACCOUNT SO THIS IS ONLY THE FIRST STEP IN THIS TYPE OF CONSOLIDATION.

WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH SEVERAL OTHER COMPANIES. YOU LINE YOU LINE IS A IS AN ONLINE THAT WE CAN GET ANYTHING FROM PARTS MECHANICS PARTS TOOLS APPLIANCES SMALL AND AND UNIFORMS. SO YOU LINE IN IS ANOTHER COMPANY THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH FOR SMALL PURCHASES AND SOME OTHERS AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A LARGE LIST THAT VICTORIA WITH THE FINANCE OFFICE HAS TAKEN THAT TASK ON. SHARON, YOU WERE INTRODUCED TO NOT LONG AGO SHARON WAS HIRED AS ADDITIONAL A NEW EMPLOYEE IN A PROCUREMENT OFFICE MANAGE OUR COMPETITIVE SOLICITATIONS. SO THAT'S TAKEN SOME LOAD OFF OF VICTORIA AND ALLOWED HER THE FREEDOM TO WORK ON THESE PROJECTS. SO THIS IS A REALLY GOOD STEP FORWARD FOR ME FOR COUNTY THERE CONTINUE TO TO WORK OUR PICARD POLICY PROCUREMENT POLICY AND THE TRAVEL POLICY. SO ALL OF THESE HAVE NOW BEEN DEVELOPED WITHIN WITHIN STAFF AND IT'S TIME FOR THE EXECUTIVE AND LEGAL STAFF. THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND HOPEFULLY BACK FORWARD TO COMMITTEE TO PRESENT THOSE DOCUMENTS.

THE THE PROCUREMENT POLICY ITSELF WHICH IS IN LINE OUR NEW PROCUREMENT CODE IS ABOUT 60 PAGES. SO IT IS IS PRETTY INTENSIVE AND THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE PRESENTED THE PROCUREMENT CODE THAT THE POLICY WOULD HAVE MUCH GREATER DETAIL THAN THE CODE DOES SO WE CAN GET RIGHT DOWN TO THE FINE DISCUSSION OF HOW THINGS WORK WHERE THE CODE COVERS WHY THEY WORK. SO MR. YES, WHAT TRAVEL POLICY RIGHT NOW IS THE CURRENT ONE WE'VE HAD IT IS NOT REVISED. YES MA'AM.

IT IS THE CURRENT POLICY IS THE IS IS WHAT WE USE AND I THINK IT'S LIKE FOUR OR FIVE PAGES IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THIS TIME I'M SURE. YES, MA'AM.

OKAY. A LITTLE BIT LONGER PROCUREMENT UPDATE.

SO THE ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL GIVE YOU THE FULL LIST SO LONG SPREADSHEET OF THE OF THE COMPETITIVE SOLICITATIONS.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 33 ACTIVE SOLICITATIONS. THERE ARE THREE IN DRAFT SEVEN ADVERTISED, EIGHT UNDER EVALUATION AND EIGHT AWARDED FOR CANCELED TWO ON HOLD AND ONE THAT WE RECEIVED NO BIDS AND YOU HAVE THAT FULL LIST IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY WE NO BIDS AND THE GOTHE ROAD GO THI ROAD YEAH WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT THAT NOBODY TO THE THE TWO COMPANIES THAT WOULD NORMALLY THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT THEY'RE TOO BUSY. SO HAVE TO RE SOLICIT WHEN THEY HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO PERFORM THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT I GOT FROM OUR PROCUREMENT OFFICE ON THAT THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE FOURTH ONE FROM THE BOTTOM. THE DESIGN BUILD FOR THE BLUFFTON 39 OBVIOUSLY. YES. AND IT'S AN EVALUATION.

IT IS. THAT'S GREAT. SO WE'RE WAITING FOR BIDS TO COME IN FOR THAT. AND THE REASON WELL, THERE WAS ALREADY A DESIGN FOR THE

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I WAS JUST THROWING THAT OUT FOR CHARLIE. YEAH CHARLIE SAID HE'S HE'S GOT IT COVERED . YEAH. OKAY THANKS.

COMING CHARLIE. NO NO HE'S GOT TO GO. NO.

YES. YOU KNOW, JUST QUICKLY FOR MR. DAWSON, I LET'S SEE WITH THE DEMOLITION FOR ANGUS HE MADE YOU IT'S BEEN CANCELED. YES, SIR.

SO THAT IT WAS CANCELED BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO HAPPEN. SO WE WE OPENED IT FOR SOLICITATION AND WE CANCELED IT BECAUSE COUNTY STAFF IS GOING TO DO THAT DEMOLITION.

SO WE HAD ALL THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL REMOVED FROM IT. IT'S AN INERT BUILDING AND WE'RE GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN. GOT YOU. OH, OKAY.

THANKS OUT. IT'S ALREADY GONE. IT'S ALREADY GONE.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

WELL, NEXT UP IS VALERIE. LET ME LET ME GET OUT OF THE WAY NOW.

GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK AGAIN. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE BUDGET TRANSFERS THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE LAST MEETING. THERE WERE FOUR WE HAD THE DETENTION CENTER REQUEST FUNDS FROM NON EQUIPMENT TO GO TO MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS FOR $11,701 TO PAY FOR AN INVOICE FOR SOFTWARE PURCHASE FOR MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS. THE CLERK'S REQUESTED 18,000 FOR TEN FROM PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO DO AND SUBSCRIPTIONS FOR SOME SOFTWARE AS WELL AND STORMWATER $224,403 FROM VEHICLE PURCHASES TO CAPITAL EQUIPMENT FOR A CAT 926 WHEEL LOADER FROM BLANCHARD THAT DIDN'T ARRIVE IN 524 SO WE HAD TO MOVE THE MONEY OR FIND THE MONEY IN THERE FOR FIVE AND THEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE MOVED 15,000 FROM NON CAPITAL EQUIPMENT TO DOS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS TO PAY FOR DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS.

I REQUESTED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT AND DID NOT RECEIVE IT AND SO THAT IS WHERE WE ARE IS THAT A VERY LOW NUMBER OF BUDGET TRANSFERS FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR YES COME DECEMBER GOING TO PICK UP FOR SURE SO I DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE MADE SOME REQUESTS SINCE THIS REPORT PREPARED JUST ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY JUST TO KIND OF SHORE UP SOME OF THEIR ACCOUNTS SO THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER PART OF YOUR QUESTION IS FOR US OUT OF RALEIGH. THANK YOU FOR COMING. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TODAY . KNOW. HELLO.

OKAY. SO THESE FINANCIALS ARE FOR GENERAL FUND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND AND THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND WE ARE IN THE FIFTH PERIOD AND THESE ARE AS OF NOVEMBER 20TH FOR THE GENERAL FUND WE HAVE AN INCOME BALANCE OF 41 MILLION AND AN ACTUAL NET LOSS OF 34.9 AND THIS IS EXPECTED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T RECORDED THE PROPERTY TAXES YET FOR DECEMBER AND JANUARY. SO THE REVENUES WILL CATCH UP AND BELOW IS A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET, YOUR DATA, THE ACTUAL BUDGET PERCENTAGE FOR REVENUES IS 12% FOR EXPENDITURES IS 34% AND TOTAL SPENT AND ENCUMBERED IS 38% AND BELOW WE HAVE A NET LOSS WITH ENCUMBRANCES OF ABOUT 40.9 MILLION.

SO I WANT TO SHOW YOU BOTH WITH ENCUMBRANCES THE ACTUAL NET LOSS FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FUND HAVE FUND BALANCE OF 64 AND A NET LOSS OF 2 MILLION IN THE ACTUAL BUDGET PERCENTAGE HERE IS 400 WAS 18% BUT I HAD TO TRANSFER IN THE .494 BECAUSE WE CLOSED ONE 1040 INTO ONE FUND 4000 SO I HAD TO SHOW IT THAT WAY SO THAT'S WHY I SHOWED IT AS BEGINNING MY BALANCE INSTEAD. SO THE ACTUAL BUDGET PERCENTAGE FOR REVENUES IS LESS THAN 1%

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ANY QUESTIONS? AND MAYBE IF YOU WANT SEE DIFFERENT FUNDS NEXT TIME JUST LET ME KNOW I UNDERSTAND MAYBE THE SAME ONES. ANY QUESTIONS I SEE YOU PUT ON THE NEXT JUST LIKE A ZILLION LINE ITEMS THAT WAS JUST TO KEEP UP ALL NIGHT OR DO YOU HAVE EVERY LINE ITEM HERE IN YOUR DATA? YEAH.

YES. I JUST GAVE YOU EVERY I KNOW LINE ITEM FOR IT SO YOU CAN SEE THE ACTIVITY FOR EACH MONTH SO . I WAS A LITTLE CURIOUS ON PAGE 27 IF YOU CALL IT UP WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF MISCELLANEOUS FEES MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE.

YEAH REVENUE. YES MA'AM. IT'S JUST BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT CATEGORIZED ANY OTHER SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE YET.

SO THERE ARE SOME FOR YOU KNOW LIKE INSURANCE PROCEEDS OR JUST OTHER TYPES OF REVENUE THAT DOESN'T FIT THE AVERAGE THE SOMEWHERE KIND OF SUBSTANTIAL. YEAH.

SO WHICH LINE ITEM YOU WANT? WELL MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES HUNDRED AND $50,000.

$400,000 IN LEGAL THAT'S KIND OF A LOT OF THOSE ARE THE LEGAL FEES? YES, MA'AM. THE REIMBURSED REVENUE. YEAH.

SOME BIG AMOUNTS HERE INSURANCE OR THE FOR THE LEGAL INSURANCE THAT THEY RECEIVE.

YEAH THAT'S A LOT FOR HERE. BEFORE THEY WERE SHOWING THE IN EXPENDITURES BUT WE ARE PROPERLY REPORTING IT AS REVENUE SO THAT'S WHY I A MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE.

OH OKAY. YES OKAY AND I JUST NOTICED WE HAVE LIKE A ZILLION DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS. OH YEAH SOME PAGE 39 NO MORE EXAGGERATING A ZILLION BUT IT'S MORE THAN I CAN BELIEVE. YES IT'S LISTED BY THE CLERK I KNOW IT IS BUT STILL IT'S A LOT AND WE KNOW IF ANY OF THOSE ARE REDUNDANT. I'M SURE THERE PROBABLY ARE.

KERMIT IS WORKING ON IT. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY'RE BY DEPARTMENT AND BY PROJECT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TOLD WAS LIKE NEWSPAPER SUBSCRIPTIONS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ALL HAD AND WHY ARE WE DOING THAT AND SO ON OR MAYBE SOME CERTIFICATION DUES THAT MIGHT BE IN THERE? OH OKAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF THEM. MR. MAYBE AT THE NEXT FINANCE MEETING WE COULD KIND OF GET A A A REPORT BACK ABOUT THE SUBSCRIPTIONS BECAUSE THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE FINDINGS.

IT YEAH. SO MANY SUBSCRIPTIONS IF IF THAT'S ENOUGH TIME I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO SUBSCRIPTIONS I THINK ANOTHER FINANCE MAYBE ANOTHER DAY.

YEAH IT'D BE GOOD HEAR SOME REASON. YES MA'AM THEY DO IT GIVES A

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I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. WE'LL BE VERY HELPFUL, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THAT YOU KNOW WE BUDGET IT'S ONE OF THOSE AT ONE TIME IN KNOW REPORTING IN YOUR REPORTING OR SOMEONE REPORTING WITH THE EXPENDITURE IN CERTAIN CATEGORY YOU KNOW THAT WAS LIKE 49% OF WHAT WAS BUDGETED OR WAS 50% OF WHAT WAS BUDGETED. SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA YOU WANT TO CATEGORY OKAY SO MORE IN CATEGORIES LIKE PERSONNEL OR YOU'VE WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS FINE IT'S JUST THAT I KNOW THAT REVENUE BUDGETED REVENUE IN GENERAL FUND IS X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AND WE WE ONLY RECEIVE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS BUT I KNOW THAT'S COMING RIGHT. THE MAIN THING WAS EXPENDITURE YOU KNOW WE HAVE FIVE MONTHS INTO THE YEAR HOW MUCH EXPENDITURE WE EXPENDED FOR THE FIVE MONTHS COMPARED TO WHAT WAS BUDGETED. OH OKAY EASY.

IT GIVES ME A BETTER FEEL. OKAY I'LL BREAK IT DOWN SOME MORE FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

I'LL BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU SOME MORE FOR THE GENERAL FUND IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT IS GOING TO BE A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF YOU KNOW WHAT'S LIFE WITHOUT GOING OVER BUDGETED ETC. ETC. THAT SORT OF THING YOU JUST GET A BETTER FEEL FOR IT. OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. YEAH YOU DO OR NO OVERALL OKAY THAT JUST GIVE ME A BETTER FEEL FOR WHERE WE ARE OKAY. YEAH YEAH WHEN I LOOK AT THIS IS LIKE OH WE HAD A NET LOSS AND YEAH THAT'S. OH OKAY THANK YOU.

THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR MS.. WEBB AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A PROPER DEDUCTION.

CHRISTINE, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND YOUR DIRECTOR OF COMPLIANCE IS YOUR OFFICIAL TIME.

THAT'S RIGHT. YES. OH YES, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OH, YOU KNOW I'M ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON THEN IF NOTHING ELSE FOR THE ASSISTANT COUNTY

[8. ARPA UPDATE - Hank Amundson, Special Assistant to County Administrator]

I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS REPORT. THIS IS HOPEFULLY THE FINAL REPORT OF OF THE LAST TWO YEARS OF OBLIGATING THE FUND AND SO HAVE A THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE TO BRING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SIT DOWN LET REVENUE GO MR. SANDERS I AM SO SORRY I JUMP RIGHT OVER TOP YOU THANK YOU SANDERS THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU.

THANK JUST A QUICK I'M TRYING TO GO OVER THE SLIDE OF BUT INVITED TO ACTUALLY KIND OF BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON WHERE WE AT WITH LEGAL RESIDENCY AND LEGAL RIGHTS THE EXEMPTION THAT IS A HOT TOPIC EVERY YEAR AND SO I'M PREPARED TO KIND OF GO OVER WE'RE AT WITH OUR OFFICE WITH REGARDS TO THOSE APPLICATIONS AND THE IMPACT WITH REGARDS TO THE ADJUSTMENTS AND VALUES THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR, COULD I JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY COULD HEAR HER IN THE BACK OKAY IN THE PUBLIC OKAY I'LL SPEAK AS THIS IS IMPORTANT STUFF NOT THAT THE OTHERS WASN'T BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT. OKAY WE HAVE THE ROOM.

OKAY. SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO START BRIEFLY KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT THE LEGAL RESIDENCY IS ABOUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING LEGAL RESIDENCY SPECIAL ASSESSMENT SOME PEOPLE MAY LOOK AT THAT OR REFER TO IT AS A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION BUT IN SOUTH IS THE LEGAL RESIDENCY SPECIAL ASSESSMENT. IT'S GOVERNED BY THE ON THE CODE OF LAW. THE STATUTE IS THERE AND BASICALLY FOR OWNERS TO APPLY FOR THIS EXEMPTION THEY HAVE TO MAKE APPLICATION THEY MUST OWN AND OCCUPY THEIR OWN PROPERTY TO CLAIM THE EXEMPTION AND THE EXEMPTION IS ACTUALLY VETTED THROUGH THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND IS GRANTED TO A PROPERTY OWNER AND IT EXEMPTS THEM FROM PAYING SCHOOL OPERATIONS MEALS.

SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST 2% DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FOUR AND THE 6%.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS TODAY. SO THIS IS KIND OF GIVE YOU UPDATED IDEA WHERE WE'RE AT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY THE NEXT THE SLIDES ARE KIND OF REDUNDANT BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THEM OF HOW WE ARE WITH REGARDS TO OUR

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SO AS YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THOSE COMPARISONS FOR 2024 WE HAVE EXCEEDED THE NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE RECEIVING THE LEGAL RESIDENCY VERSUS PROPERTIES THAT ARE IMPROVED THAT ARE AT 6% THAT WOULD INCLUDE COMMERCIAL IMPROVE SECOND HOMES THAT ARE IMPROVE THOSE TYPE OF PROPERTIES. SO CAN SEE THE TREND WHERE IT'S GOING FROM 22 TO 24 AND WHERE WE AT WITH THE NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE RECEIVING THE LEGAL RESIDENCY AND COMPARED TO NON LEGAL. SO WE'VE REACHED THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY EXCEEDED THAT AMOUNT THE NEXT TIME I WAS KIND OF GIVE YOU ANOTHER DEPICTION THAT THE OF YOU KNOW GIVE YOU NOW THE VISUAL SAME INFORMATION JUST A DIFFERENT VISUAL YOU CAN SEE THE TREND AND HOW IT HAS CHANGED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME WITH REGARDS TO IMPROVE RESIDENTIAL RECEIVING LEGAL RESIDENCY AND THOSE THAT ARE NOT APPROVED IN OUR COUNTY AND THAT'S COUNTY WIDE DATA I'M GOING TO HAVE A SLIDE FURTHER ALONG THAT SHOWS ON YOUR DISTRICTS HERE ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT THE ASSESSED VALUE IS FOR THE PROPERTIES. NOW THERE'S THREE TYPES OF VALUES THAT WE HOUSED IN ASSESSOR'S OFFICE. WE HAS YOUR MARKET VALUE WE HOUSE YOUR TAXABLE VALUE BUT WE ALSO HAVE ASSESSED VALUE. THIS IS THE VALUATION THESE IS USED WITH THE MILITARY TO COME UP WITH ACTUAL TAX AMOUNT. SO THE MOUSE THAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE ASSESSED VALUE IS A MINUS EXEMPTIONS OR MINUS EXEMPT PROPERTIES LET'S SAY IT LIKE THAT EXEMPT PROPERTY. SO FOR EXAMPLE IF THERE'S GOVERNMENT OWNED PROPERTY IT WOULD BE ZERO IT WOULD BE IF A PROPERTY IS A VETERAN THAT ASSESSED AMOUNT HAS ALREADY BEEN FACTORED IN FOR THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT RECEIVE LEGAL RESIDENCY.

SO HERE AGAIN GOING ON TO GIVE A HISTORICAL VIEW OF THE ASSESSED AMOUNT COMPARED TO LEGAL RESIDENCY A NON LEGAL RESIDENCY ACCOUNT. KEEP IN MIND THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE ASSESSED AMOUNTS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE LEGAL RESIDENCY ASSESSED AMOUNTS PROPERTY OWNERS ARE NOT PAYING TO THE SCHOOL OPERATION MILLS SO SO THAT'S THE AMOUNTS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE NOT ANY THAT MONEY IS NOT BEING CONTRIBUTED TO THE OPERATIONS SO YOU CAN SEE FOR 2024 YOU CAN SEE THE NON LEGAL RESIDENCY IT'S OUR LEGAL RESIDENCY IS SLIGHTLY BELOW SO IT IS INCHING UP THERE WITH THOSE LEGAL RESIDENCY THERE WILL NOT BE PAYING INTO THE SCHOOL OPERATION. MILLS THAT'S WHY SO IMPORTANT THAT WE VET THESE APPLICATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S LOSS OUR SCHOOLS OR OUR CHILDREN IN REGARDS TO THE OPERATION THEY'RE NOT BEING PAID INTO IT. SO I WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A HISTORICAL VIEW THE CHANGES YOU CAN SEE IN 2022 YOU SEE WE'RE WITH $711 BILLION MILLION BUT SEE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IT'S A MILLION 1,025,000,000 PROBLEM LOOK AT MY NUMBERS CORRECTLY SO YOU CAN SEE HOW WAS CHANGING MAMA NOT THE NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE RECEIVING THIS EXEMPTION HAS DRAMATICALLY CHANGED SINCE 2022 AND I'LL BRIEFLY GO OVER OUR THEORY AS TO WHY HERE'S ANOTHER VISUAL I MEAN IT'S A DUPLICATION IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A CHART OF SEEING WHERE THE TREND IS LYING BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT I JUST PROVIDED TO YOU.

YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGES IN 22 VERSUS 24 WITH THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES LEGAL VERSUS LEGAL RESIDENCY WITH THEIR ASSESSED AMOUNTS. HERE'S HERE'S A BREAKDOWN BASED ON YOUR DISTRICT FROM 22, 23 AND 24 I TRIED TO CAPTURE THE NUMBER OF PROPERTY AND ALL OF THESE ARE LEGAL RESIDENCY HERE. I DIDN'T IT DOWN FOR NON LEGAL RESIDENCY. I WANTED YOU TO SEE THE NUMBER OF PROPERTY THAT ARE RECEIVING THE EXEMPTION IN YOUR PARTICULAR DISTRICT. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 57,000, ALMOST 58,000. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO THAT AS WE SPEAK PEOPLE ARE APPLYING FOR LEGAL RESIDENCY. THIS DATA IS AS OF THURSDAY OF LAST WEEK SO WE ARE OUR SITE IS UP 24 SEVEN AND THEY HAVE UNTIL JANUARY 15 TO APPLY FOR THE EXEMPTION AND OUR STAFF IS CURRENTLY VETTING THOSE SO. THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE HERE ARE OLD AS OF THE TIME THAT I PUT IT TOGETHER ON THURSDAY AND TAKE SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA NOW AGAIN I LOVE A CHART I LOVE A CHART. SO HERE'S YOUR DISTRICTS YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE MAJORITY

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YEAH THAT'S WHERE THE 4% IS GOING TO MOVE UP FROM WHO IS 710 AT ANY TIME YOU LOOK AT THEM 800 IS THE FIRST KEY 700 ISH SHELDEN AND OF I THINK THEY ANNEXED SOME A PART OF GMAC TO DISCUSS THESE JUST EVEN INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT IS LAID OUT WHO'S GETTING THE BENEFIT OF THE LEGAL READ WHO'S APPLYING AND RECEIVING THAT I APPRECIATE YOU DOING BARBARA GRAPHS VERY EASY TO INTERPRET AT A GLANCE. YEAH I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

YES. YES SIR. I'M SANDERS THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. LET ME LET ME ASK YOU THIS YOU BECAUSE YOU GAVE SOME ANALYSIS HERE AM I TO ASSUME THAT AS WE AS YOU OR AS PEOPLE COME IN TO CONVERT TO LEGAL RESIDENTS AT 4% THE THE NON LEGAL RESIDENTS BE AT THE 6% CORRECT SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TAX ONLY NON LEGAL RESIDENTS ON THE FOUR PROPERTY TAXES TO PAY FOR SCHOOL DISTRICT RIGHT WELL LET SAY LIKE RESCUE OPERATIONS SCHOOL OPERATIONS SCHOOL DEBT NOT KNOWN THE ANESTHESIA MY SCHOOL OPERATIONS EVERYBODY CONSUMED THEIR SCHOOL OPERATIONS BASICALLY THE 6% SO THE WHEN WE HAVE LISTS 6% IS THE MAJORITY. EVERYBODY IS PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE SCHOOL TAXES ON THE SCHOOL OPERATION. RIGHT.

WELL, THE 4% HAPPENS ARE EXEMPT FROM IT COMPLETELY CAN ONLY PROBABLY OWNERS THAT 4% THAT PAY SCHOOL OPERATIONS AS AG USE SO WE'RE NOT EVEN CONSIDERING THAT IN THIS CONVERSATION WITH REGARDS TO LEGAL RESIDENCY THAT'S A PART OF THE LEGAL RESIDENCY THEY'RE FROM THAT DEADLINE ARE THE MILITARY THAT'S WHERE I WOULD TELL I WOULD SAY THAT'S WHERE THE WEST WHERE THE THE THE THE BENEFIT OF THE EXEMPTION IS THAT NOT THE 2% WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN AND SEE MY TAXES JUST WENT UP CHANCES ARE NOT BECAUSE OF THE 6% ASSESSED VALUE IT MAY OR MAY NOT YOU KNOW IT COULD BE IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF FACTORS. IT COULD BE A CHANGE IN MILLAGE BECAUSE OR IT COULD BE A CHANGE IN A FEE THERE COULD BE A CHANGE IN WHAT IS NEED TO RUN THAT AIR TO LOCAL IT COULD BE A MUNICIPALITY CHANGE WE'VE HAD THAT INCIDENT AS WELL WOULD CHANGE THEM IN THE MISS MUNICIPALITY FEES OKAY SO WE LOOK AT IT I WOULDN'T SAY HOLISTICALLY BUT WE LOOK THE COUNT WHEN THEY COME IN AND SAY WELL MY TAXES WERE NOT LET'S SEE WHY IT WAS LEGAL RESIDENCY ISSUE IN THEY'RE CLAIMING THAT PROPERTY IS THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE. THE FIRST THING WE DO IS SAY LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET YOU I'M APPLYING FOR LEGAL RESIDENCY AND SEE IF YOU CAN QUALIFY FOR THAT TO BRING THAT DOWN.

BUT IN SOME CASES THEY ALREADY HAVE THE EXEMPTION AND IT'S OTHER FACTORS AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. WHAT I WAS GETTING AFTER IS THAT AS MORE AND MORE LEGAL

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YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S OUT OF OUR CONTROL BECAUSE IT'S THAT KIND OF IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA ACT 388 IN WHICH THEY WERE THE ONES THAT SPECIFIED THAT SCHOOL TAXES ARE WHERE ALL THE SCHOOL OPERATIONS TO COME FROM NON-LEGAL RESIDENCES, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, VACANT PROPERTY SO WHATEVER THE SCHOOL BUDGET IT'S THEN DIVIDED UP AMONG THOSE THAT GROUP. SO YOU'RE EXACTLY WHATEVER SOMEONE'S TAX BILL GOES UP DRAMATICALLY THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE FOR SOME REASON THEY WERE THEY FEW IF THEY WERE PUSHED TO THE 6% GET PUSHED TO 6% THAT MEANS THEY ALSO ARE UP AND ARE PAYING FOR THE SCHOOL OPERATIONS TAX WHICH IS WHY IT IS SO MUCH SO MUCH MORE SO AGAIN AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE PEOPLE THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FOUR AND 6% AND IT'S BECAUSE OF MOSTLY BECAUSE THE AS MS. SANDERS SAID THE 2% IS NOT THAT BIG A DEAL. IT'S SCHOOL OPERATIONS TAX THAT GETS PUSHED TO THOSE PEOPLE. THAT'S THE BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW.

CORRECT. HE'S CORRECT IN I BELIEVE PART OF IT COULD BE THE REEVALUATION THAT WAS DONE WELL PEOPLE'S PROPERTY WILL BE ASSESSED FOR PRIMARILY THE VALUATION THAT OCCURRED IN 2023 THE CAP VALUE WAS PROPERTIES WERE CAPTAINED BEFORE AS A WHOLE 70 OVER ABOUT 7370 4% OF THE PROPERTIES WOULD SEE SOME SORT OF A CAP SO THEREFORE THEY DIDN'T EXPERIENCE THEIR MAJOR INCREASE DID NOT COME FROM THE REASSESSMENT AS MANY BELIEVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU THE IMPACT DID NOT IMPACT TAXPAYER WE ONLY RECEIVE A LITTLE OVER 3000 APPEALS SURPRISINGLY AND IN SOME OF THOSE APPEALS I WOULD SAY ABOUT HALF OF THOSE WERE INDIVIDUALS SEEKING THE LEGAL RESIDENCY AND JUST FILL THE FORM OUT AND SAY HEY I LIVE HERE AND THEY SAW 6% OF THEIR ASSESSMENT NOTICE SO TO YOU KNOW THE IMPACT BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY WERE SHELTERED BY THE CAPPING YOU KNOW THERE WAS A INCREASE IN MARKET VALUE BUT THE CAPTAIN SHELTERED THEM AND THEREFORE THEY DIDN'T GET IMPACTED SO MUCH FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. BUT IF MILLER'S CHANGES OF COURSE OR FEES INCREASE OR ADDED ON OF COURSE THEN THEIR TAXES WILL INCREASE. SO THERE'S OTHER FACTORS THAT COULD PLAY INTO THAT NUMBER THREE TAX BILL OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. SANDERS VERY GOOD. IT'S GOOD. I CAN TELL THAT.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO CONTINUING ON I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA YOU PROBABLY WANT TO ASK WELL IN THE SANDERS YOU JUST SAID THAT WE ARE HAVING AN INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS RECEIVING LEGAL RESIDENCY IN COUNTY.

BUT WHY IS THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS ARE DECREASING DECREASING AND THERE ARE SEVERAL FACTORS TO THAT. THE APPLICATION WINDOW FOR 2024 STILL OPEN IS OPEN UNTIL JANUARY 15TH OF 2025 FOR THE 2024 TAX YEAR ALSO WITHIN OUR OFFICE WITHIN WORKING WITHIN THE CODE I MADE THE DECISION TO MAKE SOME CHANGES IN ON OUR PROCESSING CHANGES SO WHEN I SAY PROCESS AND CHANGES IN THE PAST IT WAS A POLICY OUR OFFICE TO IF A TAXPAYER HAD TO BRING BACK THEIR SEATING FOR BECAUSE IT WAS A PART YEAR OR THEY JUST MOVED HERE THEN WE WOULD HAVE THEM FILL OUT A WHOLE ENTIRE COMPLETE APPLICATION AND START THE BEGINNING WITH DRIVER'S LICENSE, VEHICLE REGISTRATION AND IT WAS DAUNTING. WELL, I MADE THE DECISION THAT THEY JUST NEED TO BRING THAT ONE PIECE THAT BRING BACK THAT WHEN YOU VALUE YOUR FULL YEAR TAX RETURN, BRING THAT AND THEN SERVE THAT AND TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS WE REVIEW IT AND MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT ON THE COUNT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THEIR EXEMPTION SO NO ADDITIONAL APPLICATION IS NEEDED. THERE ARE OTHER PROCESSES CHANGES THAT ARE MADE WITHIN. THE DEPARTMENT MILITARY FOR EXAMPLE THEY ONLY HAVE TO COME BACK TO BRING THEIR ID WHEN IT EXPIRES WHEN THEY GO TO DO THEIR SECOND OR THIRD OR FOURTH REENLISTMENT. SO THERE DOES BRING THAT ID BACK SHOW HEY I GOT ANOTHER FOUR YEARS AND SO THEY'RE NOT PUTTING IT ON HOLD HIRE ANOTHER APPLICATION.

SO WE WE'VE CHANGED THOSE KIND OF PROCESSES SO IT'S NOT AS DAUNTING ON OURSELVES AS WELL AS THE TAXPAYER. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WHY IT WENT FROM 10,542 APPLICATIONS DOWN TO 6300 SO FAR ADDITION WE BASED ON OUR OBSERVATIONS AND WATCHING AND STUDYING THE NUMBERS OR THE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS COLBERT DREW A LOT OF PEOPLE TOO BEFORE THEY CAME IN DROVES AND THEY CAME IN MAYBE FOR THEIR HOME THERE THEIR CLAIM IN THE LEGAL RESIDENCY SO IN 2022 WE ARE WE WILL FEEL CONFIDENT THAT A LOT OF THAT TO DO WITH THE MIGRATION SOUTH AND PEOPLE APPLYING FOR THE EXEMPTION AND RECEIVING THE EXEMPTION SO THAT'S WHY THE NUMBERS ARE THERE BUT THE WINDOW IS STILL OPEN FOR 24 AND THEY CAN STILL APPLY FOR THE LEGAL RESIDENCY. SO I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THIS BUT I WANTED TO GIVE

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I APPRECIATE WHEN THEY DO THAT BECAUSE IT HELPS US BECAUSE AT BEGINNING OF THE YEAR IT'S ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING HEY YOU'RE GOING TO 6% COME ON VISIT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S HIS OFFICE. THEN WE ALSO SEND OUT THESE POSTCARDS THAT WELCOME PEOPLE TO BE OVER WHEN THEY HAVE A TRANSFER AND TELL THEM THE DIFFERENT EXEMPTIONS IN OUR DEPARTMENT. THAT'S ANOTHER NOTIFICATION. WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BE MORE PROACTIVE SO THEY HAVE A TRANSFER. WE'RE NOT LOOKING WE JUST SEND OUT A LITTLE POSTCARD SO HOPEFULLY THAT THEY'LL RESPOND TO THAT CARD.

SO THEN WE ALSO DO OUTREACH PROGRAMS ARE AWARE WE'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAD THREE ADDITIONAL EVENTS IN DECEMBER. IF ANYONE LISTENING WE HAVEN'T MADE ONE OF OUR EVENTS PLEASE CHECK OUR WEBSITE AND COME TO ONE OF OUR EVENTS AND STAFF AT THE EVENTS WILL SIT DOWN THE TAXPAYER AND HELP THEM FILL OUT A FOUR PERSON APPLICATION ONLINE. OKAY IF THEY HAVING DIFFICULTY OR IS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH TECHNOLOGY OR CANNOT MAKE THAT DRIVE OVER US AT ONE OF THE EVENTS AND THEY WILL HELP HELP YOU DO THAT AND TAKE YOUR APPLICATION ONLINE WHILE YOU'RE THERE.

THE DEADLINE IS JANUARY 15TH SO THEY HAVE UNTIL JANUARY 15 OR 25 TO APPLY FOR 24 NOW NO REACTIVE TAX PLAYER WAIT SO THE TAX BILLS ARE MALE THIS YEAR THEY WENT SOMETIME AFTER THE WEEK OF YOU KNOW THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER. I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT DATE WHEN THEY WENT OUT BUT SINCE THEN BEFORE THE MAILING OR THE ISSUES OF THE TAX WE WERE GETTING ABOUT 30 APPLICATIONS A DAY IN OUR STAFF CAUGHT UP AS THE MAILING OR THE ISSUE THE TAX BILLS WE RECEIVED ALREADY 708 APPLICATION AS OF THURSDAY OF LAST WEEK WE'RE GETTING ABOUT 65 TO 70 APPLICATIONS A DAY AND THOSE TAX THOSE STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE WORKING THOSE APPLICATIONS OR VENDOR APPLICATIONS DO HAVE TO SPEAK TO OUR TAXPAYER WHEN THEY CALL OR THEY COME BY THE OFFICE. SO IT DOES SLOW DOWN SO WHEN TAXPAYERS ARE REACTIVE THE PROBLEM LISTED FOR THEM IS THAT IT ONLY GIVES TWO MONTHS TO APPLY FOR LEGAL RESIDENCY. REMEMBER THE DEADLINE DAY JANUARY 15TH.

SO HERE WE ARE NOVEMBER DECEMBER, JANUARY 15TH IT SHORTENS THEIR WINDOW.

SO IF YOU CAN ENCOURAGE THE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR COMMUNITIES AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS LET THEM KNOW BE PROACTIVE AND NOT REACTIVE AND TO TAKE YOU TO TAKE THE USE OF THAT TIME SO THEY'RE NOT IN THAT PILE OF PEOPLE LIKE 700 AND SOME APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO REVIEW. IT HELPS THEM AS WELL. NOW TO TALK ABOUT BRIEFLY ABOUT REFUNDS REFUNDS TAXPAYERS CAN QUALIFY FOR A REFUND IF THEY PAY THE TAX BILL THEY APPLY FOR THE LEGAL RESIDENCY PRIOR TO JANUARY 15TH AND WE HAVE NOT REVIEWED IT AS OF YET ONCE ADJUST THE COUNT WE WILL HAVE A REFUND ISSUED OR WE WILL SEND OUT A REBUILD IF NECESSARY THOSE ARE DONE WITHOUT PENALTY BECAUSE THEY THEY IT ALREADY THEY HAVEN'T PAID IT THEY WILL INCUR A PENALTY BUT THEY PAY THE BILL BEFORE JANUARY 15TH HAVE AN APPLICATION BEFORE JANUARY 15TH THEY WILL GET A ADJUSTED ADJUSTMENT ADJUSTMENT WILL BE SENT TO THEM IF AN APPLICATION RECEIVED AFTER THE DEADLINE OF JANUARY 15TH THEN THE OWNER MUST PAY THEM OUT THIS OWED ON THE BILL AND REQUEST FOR REFUND AND GO TO THE LEGAL RUNS LEGAL RESIDENCY REFUND PROCESS NOW WHEN GET DOWN TO WAIVER OF PENALTIES AND INTEREST PENALTIES INTEREST CANNOT BE WAIVED BECAUSE A DELAY IN APPLYING FOR THE LEGAL RESIDENCY OR BECAUSE THE TAX BILLS WENT OUT LATER IN THE YEAR THAT THOSE TO ADD THOSE TWO OCCURRENCES IS NOT ACCOUNTING ERROR. THE COUNTY LAW IS VERY CLEAR IN ORDER FOR AN ADJUSTMENT OR A PENALTY OR INTEREST TO BE WAIVED IT MUST BE A COUNTY ERROR INUNDATION OF APPLICATIONS RECEIVED BY THE ASSESSOR'S IS NOT A WAIVING IS NOT WARRANT A OF PENALTIES THE

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THEY STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE REQUIRED AND THAT THEY ARE QUALIFIED FOR THAT EXEMPTION AND. THEY CAN ACT THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET A REFUND FROM OR UPWARDS OF THREE YEARS IN THE YEAR. ADDITIONALLY WHEN A REFUND IS SOUGHT BY A TAXPAYER.

THE REFUND REQUEST IS IT GOES BEFORE IF IT'S AFTER JANUARY 15TH IT GOES BEFORE THE COUNTY AUDITOR ASSESS THE ASSESSOR AUDITOR AND TREASURER FOR VOTE FOR THE REFUND.

THE COMMITTEE IS ONLY VOTING ABOUT THE REFUND THE COMMITTEE DOES APPROVE THE LEGAL RESIDENCY APPLICATION THE LEGAL RUNS THE APPLICATION APPROVAL IS HOUSED WITH THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND VETTED BY THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE PER THE SOUTH CAROLINA COURT OF LAW COUNTY COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE THE STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO PENALTIES OR DELAY THE PAYMENT OF PENALTIES OR WHEN PENALTIES APPLIED. I THINK THAT'S A CONCLUSION OF MY SLIDE. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS ONE. EVERY THE VERY FIRST ONE PENALTIES CAN ONLY BE WAIVED BY COUNTY ERROR. HOW IS IT NOT A COUNTY ERROR IF IT WAS A LATE ISSUANCE TAX BILLS? WELL, IT'S NOT A COUNTY ERROR BECAUSE LATE THE ISSUANCE OF THE PROPERTY OR IF THE COUNTY THE TREASURY RECEIVED A PERMISSION FROM DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE TO TO EXTEND THE WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO MAIL THOSE TAX BILLS OUT THAT'S NOT A COUNTY BECAUSE LONG AS THEY'RE THEY'RE DUE AND PAYABLE JANUARY 15TH SO AS LONG AS THEY HAD THAT BILL BEFORE ENOUGH TIME AND THEN THE FIRST PENALTIES APPLY JANUARY 15TH THAT IS NOT A COUNTY ERROR. NOW THE REASONING FOR DELAYING THAT DELAY IN THE MAIL IN THAT TAX BILL THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNTY TREASURER BECAUSE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE THAT IS NOT A COUNTY ERROR WHEN THE BILLS GO OUT.

BUT AGAIN DEFINITELY BETTER ANSWER IT BY THE COUNTY TREASURER WITH REGARD TO THE LATENESS I WON'T SAY LATENESS WHEN THE BILLS ARE MAILED I IN R A CONSTITUENT.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING LITERALLY THERE IS NO COUNTING ERROR. THERE'S NOT OKAY SO LET'S JUST BE CLEAR ON THAT. YEAH GOT IT. YES, MR. PRESIDENT, THERE IS A SITUATION THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME A HOMEOWNER PUTS THEIR HOUSE IN A TRUST WHICH NOW CHANGES THE DEED WHICH THEN TRIGGERS YOUR OFFICE TO SAY WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. IS THIS NOW A 6% PROPERTY? AND SO THAT'S ONE AND OBVIOUSLY THE DEATH OF A SPOUSE CHANGES THINGS THOSE ARE TWO CRITICAL HAPPENINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF THAT THEY NEED TO COME TO YOU TO REAPPLY FOR THE FOURTH PERCENT.

CORRECT. AND YOU KNOW CAN I HELP CAN HELP YOUR THE ANSWER WAS NOT REAL QUESTION YOUR STATEMENT TO ADD TO STATEMENT OR TO ELABORATE ON YOUR STATEMENT IF THE PROPERTY IS JOINT IN HIS RIGHT OF SURVIVORSHIP AND ONE OF THE ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS PASSED AWAY WE DO NOT REMOVE LEGAL RESIDENCE IF IT HAS JTR S ON IT WE JUST KEEP THAT IN PLACE WITH REGARDS TO THE TRUST BECAUSE TRUST OWNS THE PROPERTY WE ACTUALLY FOLLOW THROUGH.

WE HAVE A MAILING FROM THE COUNTY AUDITOR BECAUSE ALREADY MOVED THEIR PROPERTY 6% SO THEY CAN GET THAT NOTIFICATION. THEY HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY THEY WILL THE POSTCARD AND IT SAYS WELCOME TO THE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S THE TRUST. I'LL GIVE YOU A POSTCARD.

WELCOME TO BEAUFORT AND HEAR ALL THE BENEFITS THAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET AN ASSESSMENT NOTICE THAT'S GOING TO SAY IN THE TOP RIGHT IN A NON REASSESSMENT YOU JUST WANT TO SAY 4% REMOVED AND THEN FINALLY THEY'LL THE TAX BILL SO THERE'LL BE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO ALERT THEM TO SAY HEY COME IN LET'S ADDRESS THIS BEFORE THEY GET THE YOU'RE CORRECT THOSE ARE OCCURRENCES THAT WE DON'T WE DO NOT KNOW WHO'S THE BENEFICIARY TRUST THAT THE LAW IS VERY CLEAR WE NEED TO KNOW WHO THE INCOME BENEFICIARY OF THE TRUSTEE PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS OR WILL VIEW THIS LATER ON WILL BE INFORMED CORRECT THAT THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY MAY WELL EXPERIENCE AT SOME TIME? YES, I DO.

LET ME JUST SAY THAT THAT I ACTUALLY HAD THIS HAPPEN TO ME WHERE I REFINANCED AND WE ADJUSTED THE DEED AND WE HAD WHEN WE JUST THE NAME ON THE DEED AND IT KICKED BACK THE 6% I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S BETTER TO GO AHEAD AND PAY WHATEVER YOU THINK OR PAY THE TAX BILL BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T PAY THE TAX BILL COME JANUARY 15TH YOU WILL HAVE PENALTIES TO START TO ACCRUE AND YOU'LL AGAIN PEOPLE CALL ME ALL THE TIME YOU WANT ME TO RID OF THEIR PENALTIES ON THEIR TAX BILLS AND I SAY I CANNOT BREAK THE LAW THAT WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN BY THE STATE

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GO AHEAD ON THIS BIZARRE WEBSITE AND GO AHEAD AND PUT THE APPLICATION IN.

WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT IT FROM A DUPLICATE STANDPOINT IF YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND BE PROACTIVE AND PUT THE APPLICATION IN APPLY AND GET IT THEN THAT'LL BE THAT THAT'S THE BEST SCENARIO THERE. BUT GETS TO ISSUE I AGREE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH YES, THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK YOU THIS FROM SOME OF MY SPOUSE PASSES AWAY MY TAXES WOULD GO TO 6% IF YOU HAVE JTR O S THE PROPERTY IT WILL NOT BUT IF YOUR SPOUSE CAN'T BUT IF YOUR SPOUSE PASSES AWAY AND YOU DO NOT. YES.

LET ME GIVE YOU A PRIME EXAMPLE . MY HUSBAND AND I THIS IS A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE. MY HUSBAND AND I'M EBONY SANDERS HUSBAND IS JOE SANDERS.

HIS FATHER IS JOE SANDERS AND OUR SON JOE SANDERS AND NEITHER OF THEM HAVE JOE ONE, TWO OR THREE THEY'RE JUST JOE SANDERS JOE SANDERS AND JOE SANDERS. AND WHILE WE KEEP REPEATING THE SAME THING I DON'T KNOW BUT HOW WOULD ASSESSOR'S OFFICE KNOW THAT JOE SANDERS WON IS SAME AS JOE SAYING THIS IS MY JOE SANDERS AND MY SON JOE SANDERS WE WOULD NOT KNOW WE'RE NOT INTO GENEALOGY LIKE THAT SO WE HAD THEM REAPPLY TO RECERTIFY TO SEE WHO ARE THE INDIVIDUALS ARE IN TO MEET THOSE. CORRECT BUT UNLESS THEY HAD ENOUGH THEY HAD TO ADDRESS THIS DIFFERENT THEN OF COURSE WE WOULD LEAVE THE 4% ON THE PROPERTY ONCE YOU FILED THE CERTIFICATE AND THEN WE'LL REMOVE THEM. THANK YOU.

WELL THE QUESTION IS FOR SANDERS AND SANDERS IS ASSESSOR FOR THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOU DOING THOSE EVENTS AND GETTING OUT THERE AND EDUCATING PEOPLE.

I THINK THAT'S BEEN WONDERFUL FOR YOU. I JUST TO JUST THINK MR. SANDERS SHE'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO ME SO I JUST WANTED PUBLIC. THANK YOU.

OH, YOU'RE WELCOME. WELCOME. THANK YOU.

EVERYTHING ALL RIGHT? THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON. IT'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT THIS. YEAH. WILL YOU INCREASE THE DAILY AND LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO NUMBER EIGHT. HANG ON THAT'S ALL IT'S THE WORDS TO WEAR. WE'RE RIGHT UP FRONT. YOU STAY RIGHT THERE.

SO I'M STILL EXCITED TO MAKE THIS REPORT. YES, I HAVE SOME SLIDES IN A SECOND I'VE GIVEN YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO I GAVE A VERY LONG ONE.

I WENT THROUGH ALL THE EXPENDITURES OF ARPA LAST MONTH .

I GAVE A SHORTER ONE THAT SAID WHAT WE HAD TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE OBLIGATED ALL THE FUNDS AND TODAY WE'LL SHOW HOW WE OBLIGATE OUR OBLIGATING ALL THE FUNDS AND HERE WE GO.

THE NUMBER HAS BEEN THE NUMBER SINCE WE GOT IT IN 2022 OF $37,317,446.

THE FIRST MAGIC NUMBER IS COMING UP ON I SAID DECEMBER 31ST, 2024 WHICH IS OBLIGATION AND THAT'S WE HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS ON THIS AGENDA TODAY AND RESULTING FROM THAT ON DECEMBER NINE THAT WILL CLOSE OUT THE REMAINDER. AND THE LAST PART IS THAT HAS TO BE SPENT BY 2026 FOR EXAMPLE MET WITH BEFORE JASPER ABOUT THE MORGAN WORLD WATER LINE FOR EXAMPLE TO HAVE A KICKOFF MEETING A WEEK OR SO AGO WITH TO MAKE SURE THAT TIMELINE FITS WITHIN THOSE. SO THAT'S OUR NEXT JOB IS MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE TIMELINES STAY SO FINAL READING FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUILDING FOR THAT TOO IT WAS ENDED UP BEING 2.72 BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER EXPENDITURES FOR THE INTERIM MOVE OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WHICH ACTUALLY IS UPSTAIRS CURRENTLY THE ADMINISTRATION IS UPSTAIRS AND THE VITAL RECORDS IS AT OUR DUKE STREET BUILDING JUST IN CASE ANYBODY IS LOOKING FOR THE VITAL YOU CAN GET IT AT OUR HUMAN SERVICE BUILDING ON DUKE STREET AND, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ITSELF THE ACTUAL CLINICAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS STILL THE KING STREET PROPERTY THAT WE'RE ONLY GOING TO MOVE THEM ONE TIME NEXT YEAR ONCE WE FINALLY PUT THIS BUILDING LOT OF PSA BROADBAND INITIATIVE IS COMING TO YOU ALSO TODAY THE RFP WE GOT THE BIDS LAST WEEK BUT THE BIDS WENT FROM FOUR TO 2 TO 1 AND THAT'LL BE BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE TO OBLIGATE THOSE FUNDS. YOU ALSO HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT THE BROADBAND LONG DRIVEWAY PROGRAM WHICH APPROVED LAST YEAR IN A RESOLUTION. HOWEVER THE END OF THAT RESOLUTION WAS 2024 AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 2026 AND THAT ACTUALLY IS TIMED OUT WELL, YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT RESOLUTION BECAUSE WITH SOME PROJECTS I'LL TALK ABOUT LATER IN RUNNING THESE NEW LINES THIS WILL ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REMARKET THAT LONG DRIVEWAY PROGRAM SO WHEN SOMEBODY GETS IT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE AND IT'S TOO FAR FOR THE PROVIDER TO PAY, GET IT TO THEIR HOUSE, WE CAN HELP THEM WITH THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE SHORTLY. THAT WAS A PREAPPROVED PROGRAM. THAT'S JUST AN AMENDMENT TO THAT. YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO HEAR FROM A CAPTAIN FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ABOUT WE MENTIONED LAST MONTH WHICH IS TO REUSE THE FUNDING THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY SET ASIDE FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION SIGNAGE PROGRAM THAT THEY DECLINED IN THE END TO HELP WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAM TO MATCH SOME OF THE EFFORTS WITHIN MUNICIPALITIES

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BUCKWALTER OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. THE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MUNSON THANK YOU, FRANK. GOOD JOB ON ALL THIS AND KEEPING THINGS GOING KNOW IT'S BEEN COMPLICATED AND AND WOULD WORK TOWARDS SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[9. UPDATE FROM BEAUFORT - JASPER WATER & SEWER AUTHORITY - Charlie Stone, Director of Government Affairs]

NEXT UP IS UPDATE FROM BEAUFORT JASPER WATER, SEWER AND AUTHORITY.

WE HAVE MR. STONE CHARLIE STONE WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR AN UPDATE. MR. STONE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

BACK SO I HAVEN'T BEEN PRESENTED YET AND MR. TABACHNICK ALREADY ASKED ME FOR A FINANCIAL COMMITMENT AND THEN I'VE BEEN HECKLED BY JOHN O'TOOLE.

SO IT'S A TOUGH CROWD HERE TONIGHT. WELL, I WOULDN'T BE DOING MY JOB IN DISTRICT SIX IF I DID. YES, MA'AM, I UNDERSTAND. THANKS FOR YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR BUT CHARLIE STONE, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AT BEAUFORT JASPER WATER AND SEWER. I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT MISS VERN ARNETT, OUR GENERAL SHE HAD PLANNED ON BEING HERE THIS AFTERNOON BUT SHE DID HAVE A CONFLICT AND I THINK I SPEAK FOR MISS ARNETT AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR LEADERSHIP AT BE FOR JASPER AND OUR STAFF WHEN I SAY THAT WE TRULY APPRECIATE PARTNERSHIP OF THE COUNTY AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE THIS AFTERNOON AND UPDATE YOU ON THE ON THE AUTHORITY GERRIT AND HANK WARNED ME THAT DON'T HAVE A PACKED COMMITTEE AGENDA AND SO I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO BRIEF THESE SLIDES. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON THIS SLIDE BUT I DID WANT TO JUST PROVIDE A QUICK OVERVIEW ON OUR SYSTEM OUR ORGANIZATION SERVICES UNINCORPORATED COUNTY AND JASPER COUNTY. WE ALSO SERVE THE MUNICIPAL CITIES OF BEAUFORT HARTSVILLE, PORT ROYAL AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.

WE ALSO THE NEEDS OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND IS WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS AND WE HAVE TWO WATER TREATMENT PLANTS ONE THAT SITS ON THE SAVANNAH RIVER AT PERRYSBURG AND THEN SECOND WATER PLANT ON 170 AT CHELSEA WHICH I THINK IS WHERE MOST OF OUR CUSTOMERS ASSOCIATE YOU FOR JASPER AS BEING. WE ALSO HAVE THREE MECHANICAL WASTEWATER PLANTS.

WE HAVE A PLANT IN PORT ROYAL, A PLANT AT CHERRY POINT AND THEN A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN HARDY VILLE. IN TERMS OF THE AUTHORITY AND WHERE WE'RE AT PRESENTLY, THESE ARE OUR REALITIES, OUR CHALLENGES. IT'S NO SECRET THAT COUNTY AND JASPER COUNTY ARE GROWING AREAS NATIONALLY. WE ARE A LEADING FOR GROWTH.

WE HAVE A GREAT LEVEL OF IN-MIGRATION. PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE.

PEOPLE WANT TO BE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES AT THE AUTHORITY. THEY'RE NOT EXCLUSIVE TO ORGANIZATION.

WE'VE SEEN RECENT INVESTMENTS HAVE BEEN NECESSARY ON THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE.

WE'VE ALSO SEEN THE RECENT SCHOOL BOND REFERENDUM IN 2023 AND I'M SURE MANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE STAFF AND RESIDENTS IN THE ROOM PROBABLY SAW OVER THE SUMMER

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SO WITH OUR WITH OUR REALITIES AND WHERE WE'RE AT, IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO INVEST IN OUR SYSTEM, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS REALLY OUR TOOL THAT ALLOWS US TO INVEST IN OUR SYSTEM BUT ALSO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I WANTED TO NOTE THAT IT'S BEEN A VERY EXHAUSTIVE PROCESS OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS. OUR ENGINEERING LEADERSHIP TEAM ,OUR STAFF THEY'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB. THEY'VE CONDUCTED A NEEDS ASSESSMENT ON EVERY SINGLE PROJECT IN OUR CIP. PRESENTLY WE HAVE 102 PROJECTS IN OUR CITY THAT ACCOUNT FOR JUST $590 MILLION. MANY OF OUR PROJECTS ARE REGIONAL IN NATURE. THEY IMPACT MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS.

THIS IS JUST A CHART THAT SHOWS THE LARGE WATER AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSIONS NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT IS WITHIN THAT THREE YEAR CIP. AND I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT JUST QUICKLY SOME OF OUR NOTEWORTHY PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PROCESS.

THE PERRYSBURG WATER PLANT EXPANSION IS PROBABLY OUR OUR MOST NOTEWORTHY PROJECT AND.

IT'S REALLY A TOP PRIORITY FOR THE AUTHORITY BUT ALSO FOR ALL OF OUR GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES ACROSS THE REGION. THIS PROJECT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE ANTICIPATING A COMPLETION OF SUMMER OF 2025. I MENTIONED THAT THIS SUMMER WE HIT AN ALL TIME HIGH FOR WATER CONSUMPTION THIS PROJECT IS HOW WE ADDRESS THAT ISSUE CHERRY POINT THIS IS PROBABLY NUMBER TWO ON THE LIST BEHIND PERRYSBURG WE'RE PLANNING A GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY COMING UP BUT THIS WILL EXPAND THE CHERRY POINT TREATMENT PLANT FROM SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION GALLONS TO 11 AND A QUARTER. WE'RE ANTICIPATING COMPLETION OF PROJECT DECEMBER OF 2026. THIS IS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THE SERVICES BLUFFTON AND ALSO SERVICES HARTSVILLE AND PORTIONS OF UNINCORPORATED COUNTY AND JASPER COUNTY AT BUCKWALTER WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.

IT'S GOING TO ADD ONE AND A HALF MILLION GALLONS TO OUR ELEVATED STORAGE.

THIS PROJECT IS ALSO GOING TO HELP US WITH JUST STABILIZING FLOW AND PRESSURE IN OUR SYSTEM AND SO IT'S A GREAT PROJECT FOR FOR BLUFFTON AND ALL OF SOUTH OF THE BROAD SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. WE HAVE ABOUT $45 MILLION IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PRESENTLY THAT'S RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BENEFIT OUR MILITARY INSTALLATIONS. AND WE RECENTLY WORKED WITH THE COUNTY WE WORKED WITH JARED AND HANK TO APPLY FOR SOME GRANT DOLLARS THROUGH VETERANS AFFAIRS AND WE WERE AWARDED $4.6 MILLION FOR TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS.

I REALLY WANTED TO COMMEND COLONEL PUGLISI BECAUSE HE'S JUST BEEN FANTASTIC THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND HELPED US GO UP TO COLUMBIA AND GRAB DOLLARS AND BRING THEM BACK

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SO HOW DO WE FUND THESE PROJECTS LAST WEEK ON NOVEMBER 21ST OUR BOARD APPROVED A $100 MILLION BOND ISSUANCE AND WE'RE PLANNING COMPLETING BONDING IN PHASES OVER THE NEXT THREE FISCAL YEARS. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT $450 MILLION IN BONDING.

WE ARE GOING TO EVALUATE THIS ON A CONTINUAL BASIS AND SO AS NEW PROJECTS ARISE OR IF DISCOVER EXTERNAL FUNDING IT WILL INFORM OUR OUR OUR MOVES AND OUR STRATEGY AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THIS PROCESS TO SUPPORT OUR LEVEL OF BONDING. THIS YEAR WE RAISED RATES BY ABOUT 9 TO 10% ACROSS THE BOARD. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ANTICIPATING A 5% RATE INCREASE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 AND THEN SUBSEQUENT RATE INCREASES IN THE FUTURE IN ADDITION TO RATES WE ALSO HAD A EXTREMELY LENGTHY PROCESS AROUND OUR CAPACITY FEES OVER THE SUMMER MONTHS WE HOSTED DEVELOPER WORKSHOPS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

OUR GOAL WAS TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

I UNDERSTAND FROM MY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DAYS THAT CAPACITY FEES CAN BE A BURDEN TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. SOMETIMES THEY CAN BE A BURDEN TO TO WORKFORCE HOUSING.

AND SO WE HAD THESE WORKSHOPS AND WE ASKED THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY YOU KNOW HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS MORE BEARABLE AND WE A FEW THINGS. THE FIRST WAS WE HAD NOBODY TELL US TO STOP CAPACITY. I THINK THERE WAS A REAL UNDERSTANDING FROM THE DEVELOPERS THAT THESE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ARE A NECESSITY FOR FOR EVERYBODY ACROSS REGION. THE SECOND THING WE HEARD WAS IS THERE A WAY PROVIDE CERTAINTY AND A FUTURE OUTLOOK ? AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WE APPROVED A THREE YEAR PHASE IN PLAN. OUR BOARD APPROVED A THREE YEAR PHASE IN PLAN WITH THAT FIRST INCREASE ON FEBRUARY 1ST OF 2025.

THE THIRD ITEM WE HEARD FROM THOSE WORKSHOPS WAS IS THERE A WAY TO MITIGATE THE CARRYING COST? AND SO RIGHT NOW IT BE FOR JASPER 100% OF YOUR CAPACITY FEE IS PAID AT PRE TIME. AND SO IF YOU'RE A DEVELOPER YOU PAY THAT FEE ON AND THEN YOU CARRY THAT DEVELOPMENT FEE ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF CONSTRUCTION UNTIL YOU MAKE A DOLLAR AND SO WHAT WE DID IN OUR NEW PLAN IS WE STAGGERED THE INCREASE TO BEING PAID AT METERS AND SO YOU PAY ESSENTIALLY SAME CAPACITY FEE PER SECOND AND THEN THE INCREASES AT METERS SO YOU GET FURTHER INTO YOUR PROCESS BEFORE YOU PAY THAT SECOND PAYMENT. THIS IS A THIS IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND I WANTED TO COMMEND THE COUNTY FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP ON THE PROJECT OUT IN LA BECAUSE OF THE WATERLINE EXTENSION THEY'RE USING YOU ARE USING ARPA FUNDS AND IT'S THERE'S TRULY A PROJECT THAT GOING TO IMPACT PEOPLE'S LIVES OUT THERE AND SO BEFORE JASPER WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE COUNTY'S EFFORT OUT IN DALE. LAST MONTH THE COUNTY AGAIN STEPPED UP AND SHOWED A LOT OF LEADERSHIP IN THE $1 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR ALL JOY AND THEN WE'VE ENJOYED A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, THE COUNTY ON THE STONY CREEK PROJECT. BUT I KNOW CHAIRMAN PASSMAN SPOKE IT QUITE A BIT ACROSS COUNTY AND JASPER COUNTY WE HAVE SOME SEWARD AREAS AREAS THAT LACK PUBLIC SEWER OR PUBLIC WATER AND OFTENTIMES THERE'S SOME SORT OF PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT OR AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE. AND SO BEFORE JASPER WE FORMED AN AD HOC UNDER-SERVED COMMITTEE THAT'S FOCUSED ON IDENTIFYING THESE AREAS AND THEN WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO FIND A SOLUTION SO.

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AND SO HOW CAN YOU ALL HELP BUT ? I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST THROUGH PARTNERSHIP I THINK EVERYBODY'S KIND OF HEARD ABOUT WHAT JASPER IS GOING THROUGH AND THERE'S A LOT OF PARALLELS WITH SOME OF THE COUNTY'S CHALLENGES TRANSPORTATION. BUT WE TRULY APPRECIATE APPRECIATE THE COUNTY, WE APPRECIATE OUR MUNICIPALITIES AND I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM YOU FOR JASPER WITH YOU KNOW VERN IS NEW AT THE HELM AT BU FOR JASPER AND WE HAVE NEW LEADERSHIP WITH PAUL VINCENT MICHAEL HANSON BUT JUST CONTINUING TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR OF OUR RESIDENTS SO AND I'LL FIELD ANY QUESTIONS ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOUR GOOD GOING BACK TO YOUR SLIDE ABOUT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND RAISING THE CAPACITY FEES.

YOU SAID YOU HAD WORKSHOPS WITH DEVELOPERS WERE THOSE ADVERTISERS WORKSHOPS PUBLICLY PUBLICLY ADVERTISED? UM, I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO MISQUOTE I KNOW WE HAD A WE HAVE A DEVELOPER LIST DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH OUR PROCESS AND.

I KNOW WE SENT IT OUT TO EVERYBODY ON THAT LIST. I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAD A PUBLIC IF WE PUBLISH THAT BUT I CAN FIND OUT AND AND LET YOU KNOW THE INTEREST IN THAT BECAUSE I HAVE YOU KNOW SOME HAVE BEEN SAID THEY WERE THEY WERE SURPRISED BY IT AND I FIND THAT A LITTLE ODD THAT THEY WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THEY HAD IF YOU HAD WORKSHOPS AND PUBLIC MEETINGS. SO AND THAT INCLUDES COMMERCIAL AND LIKE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.

THAT'S CORRECT. WE HOSTED THEM THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF MAY AND JUNE.

THEN WE DID HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS ON ACTUAL RATE INCREASES AND THE RATE INCREASES AND THE CAPACITY FEE WERE WERE ABSOLUTELY PUBLISHED BUT HAD A WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT TO OUR DEVELOPER MEETINGS AND IT WAS DIFFERENT CONTRACT ENGINEERING FIRMS FROM THE BUILD COMMUNITY THAT WE OFTEN WORK WITH. OKAY THANK YOU.

HEY MARK CHRISTOPHER. SO CHARLIE WHEN WE MET I DID ASK A QUESTION AND I'M GOING TO ASK IT AGAIN WITH ALL THE GROWTH HAPPENING PARTICULARLY IN HARTSVILLE, DO YOU ANTICIPATE REACHING A POINT WHERE YOU CAN'T PROVIDE WATER? SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SERVICE THROUGH STATE STATUTE WHEN YOU CAN'T BE CAPACITY. SO WE SO THE HIRSHBERG PLANT EXPANSION IS GOING TO TAKE OUR WATER PLANT SYSTEM FROM 39 MGD TO 54 MGD AND SO WE HIT THAT ALL TIME HIGH AT 35 THIS SUMMER AND SO OUR EXPANSION OF PERRYSBURG AND THEN OUR EXPANSION AT CHERRY POINT AND OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS THAT ARE PRESENTLY IN OUR CIP THEY'RE PURPOSEFULLY MEANT TO ADDRESS THE CHALLENGES GROWTH AND PREPARE US FOR THE FUTURE IN TERMS OUR REQUIREMENTS WE ARE REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE TO SERVE OUR CUSTOMERS AND WE DON'T BE FOR JASPER WATER AND SEWER WE ARE NOT INVOLVED LAND USE POLICY SO THE MUNICIPALITIES THE COUNTIES AS THEY'RE PERMITTING DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE CUSTOMER TO SERVE THAT DEVELOPMENT SO YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF HOW IT GETS THERE YOU KNOW THERE MAY BE ABSOLUTELY THERE COULD BE COST ON THE RESIDENT OR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. BUT AGAIN WE'RE NOT INVOLVED WITH LAND USE POLICY AS WAS OUR MENTIONED OH. MM HMM. YOU UNFUNDED MANDATES BY EPA.

COULD YOU JUST GIVE US FEW EXAMPLES OF WHAT I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS PROBABLY. BUT JUST WHAT THOSE WERE THAT HAVE COME UP RECENTLY.

YEAH. SO THE UNFUNDED MANDATE THAT I REFERRED TO IS IT WAS HANDED TO US IN APRIL AND IT'S REGARDING PREVIOUS WHICH IS THE FOREVER CHEMICALS AND SO RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE THE INITIAL WAS RIGHT AROUND $100 MILLION FOR US TO GET OUR SYSTEM IN PA TO UP TO PAR TO TREAT THE WATER UP TO STANDARD SO SURE OVER YES THIS JUST WILL SOMETIMES IN MAKING A PRESENTATION YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT REALLY WANT TO SEE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CHARLIE DID MENTION IS THAT BEFORE JASPER IS NOW ON THE NEW LEADERSHIP AND I CAN TELL YOU THE LEADERSHIP IS IS CRUCIAL. PREVIOUS LEADERS DID NOT ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.

THERE WAS A LOT OF PROBLEM BEFORE JUST FOR DEALING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED ETC. AND THEN THEY'RE TRYING TO EXPAND AT THE SAME TIME AND IT'S GOING TO BE

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WELL MR., GLOVER, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT. AND JUST TO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT ONE ADDITIONAL PROJECT, THE PROJECT THAT WE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY ON, IT'S ACTUALLY TO DECOMMISSION THE LAUREL BAY WASTEWATER TREATMENT WHICH IS A 0.35 MGD PLANT.

THAT PLANT BUILT IN THE EARLY 1960S AND SO IT'S POOR CONDITION AND IT'S AMAZING THAT THAT'S PLANT THAT SERVICES THE MAIN HOUSING COMMUNITY FOR THEIR STATION SO THROUGH THE STATE DOLLARS AND THROUGH THE PARTNERSHIP THE COUNTY AND COLONEL GLEASON'S EFFORTS WERE ABLE TO DECOMMISSION THAT PLANT. WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A PUMP STATION, OF COURSE MAIN BRING THEM INTO OUR PORT ROYAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND BRING THAT UP TO 2024 STANDARDS. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE BUT THERE'S THERE'S PROJECTS ACROSS COUNTY, JASPER COUNTY SIMILAR TO THAT AND THIS $590 MILLION SHIP THAT'S OUR OUR TIER ONE PROJECTS.

THERE'S CERTAINLY OTHER NEEDS DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE WILL WE WILL HAVE TO FACE WHEN THE TIME COMES. BUT IN OUR QUESTIONS AND AGAIN, MR. STEELE, I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. I MEAN WE'VE SEEN MORE FROM YOU FOR JASPER IN MY THE PAST YEAR SINCE YOU'VE BECOME WITH THEM AND OBVIOUSLY I KNOW WERE A GREAT LOSS FOR FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. SO BUT AGAIN THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TODAY AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WE WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENCE HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO NOW MOVE ON TO OUR ACTUAL AGENDA AND OUR AGENDA NUMBER ITEM NUMBER TEN

[10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ARPA PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SUPPORT, THE PURCHASE OF LICENSE PLATE READING CAMERAS FOR THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE (FISCAL IMPACT: $262,291.34 ARPA ACCOUNT # 2330-10-0000-54200) - Beaufort County Sheriff's Department]

GO. I AM BRIAN BAIRD WITH, COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON THE CAPTAIN I'M ALSO THE SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR THE SHERIFF AND BASICALLY AS YOU MAY WELL BE AWARE THAT OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN SOME GUN VIOLENCE ARE WHAT MOST PEOPLE REFER TO AS DRIVE BY SHOOTINGS OCCURRING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE THIS YEAR WE HAD WHAT WE FEARED WHERE ON JANUARY FIRST A 14 YEAR OLD BOY WAS PLAYING A VIDEO GAME IN HIS HOUSE WHEN PEOPLE PULLED UP IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND DISCHARGED WEAPONS INTO THE HOUSE STRIKING HIM AND KILLING HIM ON THE SPOT L.J. LIKE I SAID HE PASSED RIGHT AT THE SCENE AND AT THAT POINT WE KNEW WE HAD TO TAKE ACTION AND THE SHERIFF DIRECTED ME TO START RESEARCHING WAYS TO DEAL WITH THIS INCREASE IN GUN VIOLENCE.

I REACHED OUT TO THE MUNICIPALITIES, FOUND OUT THAT MOST OF THEM WERE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF IMPLEMENT LICENSE PLATE READERS AND CAMERAS. I THEN BEGAN TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY WERE USING OR LOOKING TO USE AS WELL AS GOING TO SOME MUNICIPALITIES LIKE CHARLESTON THAT WAS DEALING WITH A LOT OF GUN VIOLENCE. SAVANNAH NORTH CHARLESTON, HARTSVILLE, JASPER COUNTY AND WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THREE DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT ARE REALLY THE LEADERS IN THE INDUSTRY I WOULD SAY FOR PLATE READERS CAMERAS AND SUCH AND WE INVITED THOSE COMPANIES TO TO BEAUFORT DO PRESENTATIONS TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SHERIFF ACTUALLY SAT IN ON EVERY ONE OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS. WELL AS MY GENERAL COUNSEL AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WE STARTED RESEARCHING COST LOOKING AT IDENTIFYING LOCATIONS WHERE WE FELT REALLY NEEDED CAMERAS MORE AND LICENSE PLATE READERS FOR THOSE OF WHO

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WE FOUND A DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY GRANT THAT WAS OPEN WE APPLIED UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE NOT GOING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM UNTIL OCTOBER AND WE PROCEEDED FORWARD WITH HOSTING THESE COMPANIES CAME IN, GAVE AN ESTIMATE TO INSTALL THE 65 CAMERAS AT ABOUT $550,000. WE THEN HAD I BELIEVE WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA THAT CAME NEXT. THEY WERE THE NEXT COMPANY CAME IN. WE WERE LOOKING AT THEM FOR A LITTLE BIT LESS.

WE WEREN'T LOOKING AT THEM TO PROVIDE LICENSE PLATE READERS. WE WERE LOOKING AT THEM TO PROVIDE CAMERAS. WE RECEIVED SOME ESTIMATES FROM THEM AND THEN RECALL ANOTHER LICENSE PLATE READER COMPANY WAS THE LAST ONE TO COME IN AND WE RECEIVED THEIR ESTIMATE.

WE WERE LOOKING AT 65 CAMERAS. IT WAS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO BLOCKS FOR THE FIRST YEAR.

HOWEVER DURING THE SECOND YEAR IS WHEN WE STARTED TO SEE A VAST DIFFERENCE IN APPROACH FLOCK WAS GOING TO COST APPROXIMATE 181,000 FOR THE SECOND YEAR RECORD WAS WE WERE LOOKING AT THEM THEY WERE GOING TO BE WE BELIEVED THE TIME SOMEWHERE FOR 65 AROUND 3540 TO 40000 A PRETTY MAJOR DIFFERENCE RIGHT THERE AND DURING THE FLOCK PRESENTATION AND WHEN THE SHERIFF HIMSELF ASKED WHAT WHAT ARE WE RECEIVING FOR 181,000 THE SECOND YEAR? AND HE TOLD US THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO CAMERAS THEY'D BE REPLACED.

THE SHERIFF SAID OKAY, A HURRICANE WIPES THEM OUT. YOU'RE GOING TO REPLACE THEM? NO, YOU HAVE TO YOUR INSURANCE. BUT IF A CAR RUNS ONE OVER YOU'RE GOING TO REPLACE IT NOW YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY FOR THAT. BUT IF WERE TO BREAK DOWN THEN WE'D COME REPLACE AND THE SHERIFF ASKED YOUR CAMERAS BREAK DOWN THAT OFTEN WE HAVE TO PAY 181,000 WHEN IT CAME IN AND SAID THEIR ESTIMATE FOR THE SECOND YEAR WAS THE LOWEST WELL IT WAS ACTUALLY 31 SOMETHING BUT UP TO 40 DEPENDENT ON PRICE INCREASES THAT WAS A GOOD INFORMATION FOR US AND WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. UNFORTUNATELY DURING EARLY PART OF OCTOBER THIS YEAR WE FOUND OUT WE DID NOT RECEIVE THE GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY WHICH CHANGED FOR US. WE I WAS REALLY HOPING FOR THAT . HOWEVER, THE SHERIFF SPEAKING WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR STEPPED UP AND SAID WE MAY HAVE SOME LEFTOVER OPERA FUNDS WHICH LITERALLY TOOK ME FROM ALMOST DESPAIR EXCITEMENT WHEN HE ANNOUNCED THE SHERIFF ME ABOUT THAT AND SPEAK WITH MR. ROBERTSON AND MR. MUNSON WE'VE BEEN COMING UP WITH A WE CUT BACK OUR CAMERAS QUITE A BIT DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS AVAILABLE.

WE CURRENTLY ARE LOOKING AT USING OR HAVING 23 CAMERAS AT 20 SITES.

THREE SIDES WOULD HAVE TWO CAMERAS AT EACH SITE SPREAD OUT FROM HILTON HEAD THROUGH BEAUFORT WELL THROUGH THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO KEEP PACE.

BEAUFORT CITY HAS THEIR OWN CAMERAS THEY'RE INSTALLING BLUFFTON HAS THEIR OWN CAMERAS THEY'RE INSTALLING AND HILTON HAS CHOSEN TO GET THEIR OWN CAMERAS AND THEY ARE INSTALLING

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OKAY WE INTEND TO INCLUDE IT IN OUR OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR NEXT YEAR.

OKAY. AND WHEN WE TALKED EARLIER I ASKED WHAT WAS THE TIMELINE YOU SAID MAYBE JANUARY THE PLAN AT THIS POINT IS IF THE COUNTY COUNCIL APPROVES ON DECEMBER NINE, THE MORNING OF THE 10TH I WILL OR I WILL CALL FOR THE THE NIGHT OF THE NINTH HOPEFULLY WITH GREAT NEWS . AND THEY HAVE ASSURED ME THAT WE CAN AFFECT THE PURCHASE GET THE CONTRACTS IN PLACE BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST AND THEN THEY TO BE HERE THE SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY TO START INSTALLING THIS. AND WOULD YOU MAKE A PUBLIC LIKE A PRESS RELEASE IN WHEN THEY'RE INSTALLED AS POSSIBLE DETERRENT TO PEOPLE WHO NOW KNOW THAT WE HAVE LICENSE PLATE READERS IN UNINCORPORATED COUNTY? I KNOW IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ACT AS A DETERRENT BUT MAYBE SOMEBODY MIGHT THINK IT IS.

WE CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THIS IS GOING TO HELP DECREASE WHAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY? WELL I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS. TELL THE SHERIFF WE THANK YOU FOR COMING. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR THINGS LIKE THIS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OCCASIONALLY THIS THING IS MORE OF A I'M GLAD HEAR THIS BECAUSE IN MY AREA THERE'S A LOT OF YOU KNOW DRIVE BY SHOOTING YOU KNOW SO AND ASSUMING YOU'RE GOING TO STRATEGICALLY PLACE IT SOMEPLACE SO THAT IT'LL BE HOT POCKET AREAS OR WHAT I KNOW BUT I GUESS MY CONCERN OR MY QUESTION IS HAVE YOU SEEN IN AREAS THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED

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AND CLEARLY THE WHEN THE DAY I WAS THERE CHECK TIME OF YOU IN THEIR PRODUCT AND IT HAPPENED THE NIGHT BEFORE AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SHOW US THE MURDER HAPPENED AND THEN THE TRACKING OF THE VEHICLE LEAVING THERE AND THEY CAUGHT THE VEHICLE DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IS CONNECTED SO WHEN LIKE IF IF THERE'S A STOLEN VEHICLE OR WE ENTER IT AND YOU PASS BY THAT TAG IT'S GOING TO NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY. THIS TAG JUST WENT BY AND IT'S LISTED AS STOLEN. IT SENDS OUT AN EMAIL AND A TEXT MESSAGE SO ARE LIKE PATROL DEPUTIES FOR INSTANCE THAT ARE OUT PATROLLING THEY CAN CONNECT UP WITH THEIR PHONE AND RECEIVE THAT MESSAGE ALL OVER THEIR MDC IN THEIR CAR THEY CAN RECEIVE THAT MESSAGE AS IT'S HAPPENING SO WITHIN SECONDS OF THAT CAR PASSING BY THEY NOW KNOW THIS IS THE CAR THAT WENT BY.

THIS IS IT LOOKS LIKE AND IT JUST DROVE PAST YOU SO THEY KNOW THE AREA AND THEY CAN PROCEED INTO THE AREA IF NOT PARKED DOWN WHEN YOU TYPE ON A REPORT PARK IN A STRATEGIC SPOT OR YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT THE THREE OR 4/2 DELAY. OKAY, THE CARS PROBABLY WILL BE IN THIS AREA. SO I'M GOING TO WRITE MY REPORT HERE AND SEE WHAT PASSES BY AND WHAT COMES UP ON MY PHONE IN. AND SO WERE YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO BE WORKING WITH UTILITY COMPANIES TO MAYBE YOU'LL HAVE A FULL SALE? SO I I'M JUST I'M TRYING TO IMAGINE AN AREA LIKE SINKHOLE. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT YOU I WOULD JUST TRY TO IMAGINE THAT JUST MAYBE ONE DAY I'LL JUST GIVE THE SHERIFF THE CALL AND.

MAYBE HE MAY JUST UNVEIL TO ME. WELL, BASICALLY SIT DOWN WITH YOUR SON, YOU KNOW? YEAH, I ACTUALLY I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPENING BECAUSE A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE WILL I MEAN JUST IN MY AREA FAMILY GATHERING, ETC. AND THEN YOU GOT DRIVE BY SHOOTING AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN START DETERRING SOME OF THOSE ACTIONS FROM HAPPENING BUT I REALLY I'M GLAD TO HEAR SOMETHING IS BEING DONE HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS.

I HOPE YOU'LL COME BACK AND USE ALL THE TOOLS. THIS IS A NEW CHALLENGE FOR ME SO I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE ONE DEMO CAMERA RIGHT NOW ONE ONE LICENSE PLATE READER AND ONE CAMERA WE WERE ABLE TO HELP SAVANNAH FIND A MURDER SUSPECT AND AND WE WERE ABLE TO CAPTURE I BELIEVE IT'S THREE OR FOUR STOLEN VEHICLES NOW AND DEMENTIA PATIENT FROM SUN CITY WHO LEFT HER HOUSE WHILE HER HUSBAND WAS TAKING A SHOWER AND DROVE AWAY WE DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE WENT THOUGH SO I THINK IT CLEARLY SHOWS THEY WERE AT WORK AND LET ME SAY I THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ACTUALLY HAS THIS TECHNOLOGY ALREADY IN THERE SOMETIMES THEY'VE CAUGHT PEOPLE AND I'VE SAID HOW IN THE WORLD AND THEY'VE SAID THE LICENSE PLATE READERS THAT COME ACROSS SO AGAIN IT'S IT'S BEING EFFECTIVELY USED CURRENTLY AND WE HAVE SO MANY BRIDGES THAT REALLY NARROWS DOWN TO THOSE AREAS SO THERE'S ONLY SO MANY PLACES ON IN AND OUTSIDE OF YOUR COUNTY BUT USUALLY WHEN WE OFF THE SIGNAL THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

DAVID I ACTUALLY HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. ONE LET ME FIRST SAY I KNOW WE ALL WANT ADDRESS THE CONCERNS AND HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MAKE THIS COMMUNITY SAFER.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN THOUGH IS IN BALANCING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OF THIS.

HOW ARE YOU ALL BALANCING THE CIVIL LIBERTIES BECAUSE THAT THOSE THOSE CAMERAS ARE PICKING UP EVERYBODY'S LICENSE PLATES. I KNOW THERE'S NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY WHEN YOU'RE OUT ON THE ROAD. HOW IS THIS DATA BEING STORED? HOW IS IT BEING ACCESSED WHO HAS ACCESS TO IT JUST KIND OF THE MYRIAD IS THERE ANY GUIDING LEGISLATION OUT THERE AS TO HOW THIS IS BEING MANAGED AND HANDLED FROM THE STATE LEVEL? REFER THAT TO GENERAL COUNSEL. SO RIGHT NOW IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA THERE IS NO LEGISLATION THERE WAS A PROPOSED BILL LAST YEAR THAT DID NOT MAKE IT OUT OF THE HOUSE. WE'RE GOING LEGISLATION SLED HAS A NETWORK OF ALPERS THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY BEING SUED OVER REGARDING A LACK OF LEGISLATION NOW.

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IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EVERY SINGLE ROAD DEPUTY OR EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS ACCESS TO AN ACCOUNT TO LOG IN TO RECORD OR RECORD OUR RECORD TO ACCESS THAT INFORMATION IT IS GOING TO BE SENSITIVE INFORMATION AND OF COURSE THE OFFICE WILL SEE JUST COMPLIANCE THIS INFORMATION AND SEE JUST COMPLIANCE FOR OF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT JUST STANDS FOR THE CRIMINAL AND I WROTE IT DOWN CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SERVICES SO OF THAT INFORMATION IS STORED AND REGULATED PROCEDURES AS WELL AND WILL BE REGULATED AS SUCH THROUGH REQUIRING RECORD THEM AS FAR AS ANY SORT OF LEGAL CHALLENGES OF COURSE EVERYTHING THAT YOU KNOWINGLY EXPOSE THE PUBLIC I.E. YOUR LICENSE PLATE THERE'S NO FOURTH AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS THERE THIS ALPERS BEEN LITIGATED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE HERE IN COUNTY WE WERE JUST SIMPLY MODELING THAT IS BEING DONE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AS FAR AS THE LAWYERS GO. SO IT'S BEEN CHALLENGED AS OF RECENTLY THERE WAS A FOURTH CIRCUIT CASE THAT CAME DOWN IN OCTOBER 11TH WHERE IT UPHELD THE USE OF OUR DATA IN CRIMINAL MATTERS. SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL WE'RE NOT CONCERNED AND LIKE I SAID I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CIVIL LIBERTY SIDE OF THINGS THE MOSAIC THEORY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE COLLECT MASK AND THEN DRAG NETTING OF PEOPLE'S INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR GOINGS AND COMINGS. YOU KNOW THE EVERY DAY YOU CAN GATHER A LOT KNOW I KNOW IT'S NOT QUITE AS INTENSE AS A CELL PHONE HOOKING UP A TO A TOWER BUT NEVERTHELESS YOU CAN YOU CAN DEVELOP A LOT OF INFORMATION WHAT'S PICKED UP FROM THOSE CAMERAS IN YOUR DAY TO DAY ACTIVITY. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. BUT AS FAR AS A DRAGNET, AGAIN, THIS IS IN NO WAY A COMPARISON TO A DRAGNET. THESE ARE CENTRALIZED LOCATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PLACED IN THE STRATEGIC MANNER BASED OFF OF STATISTICS WHERE CRIME IS GOING ON AND IT'S GOING TO BE A POINT A IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 2.8 FOR UZI.

IT'S GOING TO BE A POINT AND THEN SOMEWHERE OVER HERE IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER LOCATION.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SYSTEMATICALLY UP WHERE WE CAN TRACK YOU ALL THE WAY THROUGH BECAUSE THAT'S INEFFECTIVE. IT IS GOING TO BE MORE SO A PLACE STRATEGICALLY BASED, A HIGH CRIME AREAS. AND AGAIN TO COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER'S POINT YOU SHERIFF HAS BEEN OUT TO THESE COMMUNITIES WHERE WE'VE HAD THESE CONSISTENT SHOTS FIRED DRIVE BY SHOOTINGS AND WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHY WE DON'T HAVE CAMERAS.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO SURE WHO DO WE NEED TO TALK TO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THESE CAMERAS? WHAT FUNDING WE NEED BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT WE GET ASKED A LOT IS WHY THERE MORE SURVEILLANCE? WHY ISN'T THERE MORE CAMERAS? WHY CAN'T WE CAPTURE THESE? I WALKED IN THIS BUILDING HERE THIS MORNING AND SAW SURVEILLANCE ON THE ON THE ON CAMERAS OF THIS BUILDING WHEN I WALKED BY THE LITTLE DOME SECURITY IT'S JUST REALITY OF TODAY'S WORLD AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAINLY LIBERTIES AND THERE'S A BALANCING ACT. I COMPLETELY APPRECIATE THAT FROM THE LEGAL BUT WE'RE ALSO LAW ENFORCEMENT WE'RE ENTRUSTED WITH A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT INFORMATION THAT THE NORMAL GENERAL PUBLIC IS NOT ENTRUSTED WITH AND HAS TO BE SOME APPRECIATION FOR THAT. AND I APPRECIATE IT. AND I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION WITH THESE PARTICULAR TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD, WHAT ARE THE ERROR RATES FOR FOR THESE TAG READERS THAT I COULDN'T TELL BUT I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, AS CAPTAIN BARRETT TALK TO YOU ABOUT YOU MAY KNOW IT AS CAPTAIN BARRETT TALKED ABOUT IF WE GET AN ERROR RATE FOR A TAG READER SAY WE GET POP ON A STOLEN VEHICLE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN AUTOMATIC PULL IT OUT. A BOLO WILL BE SENT OUT TO OUR DEPUTIES WHO WILL GET BEHIND THE VEHICLE WILL RUN THE AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT TAG IS ACTUALLY IN FACT COMING BACK TO A STOLEN VEHICLE THEN A PROBABLE CAUSE THAT WILL WILL TAKE PLACE. BUT THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE OH, WE'VE GOT TO POP IN NOW WE AUTOMATICALLY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE THE STANDARD PURSUANT TO THE FOURTH AMENDMENT THAT JUSTIFIES A TRAFFIC STOP THEY'LL STILL NEED TO BE FURTHER DUE DILIGENCE WHAT WE ENVISION THESE THESE APIS TO BE USED FOR IS PUBLIC SAFETY OF COURSE.

RIGHT. SO YOUR VEHICLES, YOUR AMBER ALERTS OF CHILDREN STOLEN DIFFERENT PLACES, YOUR MISSING PERSONS WITH THE MAJOR WHO LEFT THE FACILITIES WE HAD THE ONE SENSITIVE LADY HARTVILLE HAD THE PERSON WENT MISSING THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO THAT WAS POPPING UP IN FLUX. HARDY BUILT CAMERAS, THOSE IDEAS AND THEN OF COURSE THE SHOTS FIRED WHERE WE GET A VEHICLE DESCRIPTION BUT THAT'S IT.

IF WE HAVE A CAMERA OUT THERE THAT CAN PICK UP A LPR AND PICK UP A LICENSE, WE CAN RUN THAT VEHICLE DESCRIPTION OF A GRAY FORD, FORD OR TRUCK THAT DROVE BY THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND A COUPLE OF OUR TIME FRAME AND GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE DRUGS, SEE IF WE HAVE A LICENSE PLATE THROUGH THE VEHICLE WHERE IT IS REGISTERED REGISTERED TO AND CONTINUE OUR INVESTIGATION CORROBORATE THAT INFORMATION AND GO FROM THERE. AND THE REASON I ASK YOU ABOUT

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AND SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS SINCE THERE'S NO LEGISLATION GUIDANCE AT THE STATE LEVEL IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS, I THINK AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED TO TO PUT SOME FRAMEWORKS THERE AND SOME BOUNDARIES. WELL, I BELIEVE THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE HAVE WHERE WE'RE CONTRACTING WITH A PRIVATE COMPANY AND SO YOU KNOW, DUE TO CONTRACT WITH THE PRIVATE COMPANY IT'S TRYING TO FIND A COMPANY THAT'S FLEXIBLE AND MODIFYING THEIR TERMS WITH THE CONTRACT. AGAIN WE'VE AGREED WITH RECORDER IF WE GO THROUGH WITH THIS CONTRACT MAINTAIN THE DATA FOR 30 DAYS LOOKING AT STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE LEGISLATION DEALING WITH OR ELDERS THE DATA YOU MAINTAIN BETWEEN 120 DAYS TO 30 DAYS SO WE'RE ALREADY GOING ON THE FRONT END THAT 30 DAYS WHERE WE'RE BEING ADVANTAGEOUS AS FAR AS HOW LONG SHOULD WE STORE THIS DATA NOT ONLY THAT AGAIN WITH THE DATA ITSELF IT'S GOING TO BE REGULATED RESTRICTED TO ONLY CERTAIN PERSONNEL WHO HAVE ACCESS TO IT. SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND SENSITIVE AS TO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY EXPOSING TO THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS REGULATIONS AND INFORMATION THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. ARE WE GIVING THE COMMUNITY TOO MUCH INFORMATION THAT THEY DON'T SIMPLY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IN THIS SITUATION? IT'S IT'S ALPERS IT'S FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES ONLY. THAT'S IT. THERE'S NO OTHER YOU KNOW, NO OTHER USE FOR IT QUITE FRANKLY OTHER THAN FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES.

WELL I IN MY LIMITED RESEARCH HAVE READ WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN ABUSED, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE GONE IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL AND THAT AND I DON'T KNOW THIS COMPANY RIGHT WHO INTERNALLY HAS ACCESS THAT WELL I GUESS THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS WALKING IN HERE THIS WITH OR THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE SURVEILLANCE VIDEOS THIS COUNTY COUNCIL KNOW WHO HAS ACCESS TO YOUR SURVEILLANCE VIDEOS, HOW LONG IT'S BEEN RECORDED? I THINK YOU KNOW WHO ALSO WHO BUT ACTUALLY KNOW AGAIN THAT'S MY POINT EVERYTHING IS RIGHT FOR THESE LAW ENFORCEMENT THOUGH UNLIKE ANYBODY ELSE HAS ACCESS TO SENSITIVE INFORMATION RIGHT ON A DAILY BASIS I HAVE ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THROUGH SEIZURES.

WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE REGULATIONS IN PLACE. WE HAVE A STATEWIDE DATABASE.

WE HAVE A DATA BASE. WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF DATABASES THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO.

THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOES HAS ANYTHING POTENTIAL FOR IT TO BE ABUSED? CERTAINLY. BUT YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT IT WILL BE ABUSED.

THERE'S NO I CAN'T TELL YOU IN GOOD FAITH THAT THERE'S NOT A POTENTIAL SOMETHING TO BE ABUSED IF IT WANTS TO BE ABUSED IF YOU HAVE A BAD ACTOR, THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE THAT WOULD PREVENT ABUSE OTHER THAN PUTTING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THROUGHOUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THROUGHOUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PREVENT ANY POTENTIAL ABUSE. AND I SHE IT COMES DOWN TO TRUSTING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE LIKE HILTON HEAD BEAUFORT CITY ALL HAVE THIS I'M QUITE SURE YOU'VE TALKED TO ALL OF THEM YEAH I A LITTLE ASTOUNDED WHEN I READ THIS THAT WE DON'T HAVE IT AND THEY ALL DO. I THOUGHT WE WERE KIND OF THE LEADER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT SO OKAY THERE WAS A RUDE AWAKENING BUT I'M QUITE SURE THEY'VE ALL TOLD YOU THEY DO AND IF WE FIND

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AND I CAN TELL YOU, SIR, THAT THEY THERE IS AN AUDIT TRAIL WITHIN BOTH THESE COMPANIES SOFTWARE PROGRAMS THAT I CAN LOOK AT ANY POINT AND SEE WHO ACCESSED ANYTHING AND I HAVE IT DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IN ORDER FOR ANY OF THE LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WILL HAVE ACCESS TO SEARCH SOMETHING IF THEY WANT TO SEARCH SOMETHING THEY MUST CONNECT TO AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION CASE NUMBER. SO IT'S A WAY FOR ME TO GO A AUDIT WHAT EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT AND LITERALLY MAKE SURE THAT ONLY PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THINGS THAT THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING WILL YOUR CONTRACT TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHERE THESE CAMERAS AND READERS ARE GOING TO GO NO GOOD UP TO THEM DON'T YOU? DO YOU HAVE THE LAW HERE AND I DON'T KNOW ONLY KNOW FROM OHIO THAT IF AN OFFICER TURNS THEIR LIGHTS ON THEIR, BUTTONS ON THEY HAVE TO HAVE A REASON THEY DON'T GET TO JUST RUN YOUR PLATE JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE YOU. IS THAT HOW SOME TYPE OF REASONABLE SUSPICION? YEAH. SO I MEAN THEY WOULDN'T YOU CAN'T USE THIS JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO USE IT AND OTHER POINT WITH THE WAY THAT WE KNEW THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A CARD RUNS THROUGH AN API AND WE CHECKED TO SEE IF IT'S A TAG IS EXPIRED .

WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY SAYING THEY'RE MONITORING THESE CAMERAS 24 SEVEN TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. WE HAVE IT SET UP TO BE ABLE TO WE HAVE A 30 DAY WINDOW IF WE GO THROUGH WITH THIS CONTRACT, IF WE HAVE A SHOOTING OR A DRIVE BY SHOOTING, WE'VE GOT 30 DAYS HOPEFULLY TO BE TO IDENTIFY A SUSPICIOUS VEHICLE OR A VEHICLE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE SHOOTING. GO BACK THROUGH A AOB ARTIST TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND A VEHICLE THAT MATCHES THAT AND HOPEFULLY GETS CAUGHT ON A AVR AND THEN CONDUCT OUR INVESTIGATION AND COOPERATE THAT INFORMATION OR IF SOMEBODY DRIVING IN A STOLEN VEHICLE WITH A STOLEN LICENSE PLATE AND IT GOES THROUGH A LPR IS TO POP UP AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE ALL WANT THOSE STOLEN VEHICLES CALLED AND IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE SITTING THERE MONITORING CAMERAS, SPYING ON INDIVIDUALS OR CITIZENS OF COUNTY. WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME NOR DO WE HAVE A DESIRE T THAT THIS IS SOLELY FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND LOOK, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD JUSTIFICATION FOR THE APPLICATION OF THIS TECHNOLOGY. MY CONCERN IS LIKE I SAID, THE FIVE, TEN, 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE USED FOR? WELL, WHAT'S IT GOING TO EXPAND TO? WE DON'T WE CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE.

I WISH I COULD BE MANAGEMENT WHICH IS WHY NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW AND I'M KIND OF ALARMED THAT NOBODY IS GOING TO BE LEGISLATURE FIVE, TEN, 15 YEARS FROM NOW THAT IS GOING JUSTIFY OR ENHANCE OR DETAIN OR DETRACT FROM WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

AND I THINK THAT LEADS ME TO MY LAST POINT THAT BELIEVE THE STATE HOUSE I TALK TO MEMBERS OF OUR DELEGATION I THINK THEY'RE ACTUALLY TAKING THIS ISSUE BACK UP NEXT YEAR AND AS SUCH DON'T THINK I CAN GET BEHIND ALLOCATING ARPA FUNDS ON THIS WITHOUT THE REGULATION FROM THE STATE AND THE FACT THEY'RE PICKING IT BACK UP I JUST CAN'T GET BEHIND THIS.

OKAY WITH THAT CAN I CALL THE QUESTION PLEASE? YES.

I'M PAULA JONES. LET'S SEE WHAT YOU CALL THE QUESTION AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE THIS COMMENT ON DEFENSE OF OF THE SHERIFF AND I KNOW HE DOESN'T MIND ME DEFENDING HIM BUT I WILL SAY THIS THAT THE SHERIFF RIGHT. HAS CAMERAS ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THEY'RE A TRAFFIC VIOLATION. LORI'S ASKING FOR THOSE CAMERAS, THOSE VIDEOS THE SHERIFF HAS SAID NO TO THAT. HE DOES NOT WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT KIND OF A LITIGATION. SO LAWYERS GOING TO HAVE TO FIND OUT ON THEIR OWN WHAT HAPPENED. SO I TRUST THE POLICY OF THE SHERIFF AT THIS TIME AND IF HE'S MOVING THIS FORWARD HE'S TO BASICALLY DO THE RIGHT THING AND USE IT FOR THAT PURPOSE AND STUFF AND THAT'S REALLY THE DEAL TO DEAL A LOT OF SHOOTING AND DRIVE BYS AND STUFF. SO YEAH AND TO THAT POINT IF I MAY JUST BECAUSE WE'RE ON A PUBLIC SETTING AND EVERYTHING'S BEEN RECORDED, WE DON'T RECORD RIGHT NOW OUR TRAFFIC CAMERAS SO FOR ANY OF THE CIVIL ATTORNEYS THAT WANT TO GET A LAWSUIT GOING WE DON'T RECORD SO PLEASE DON'T SEND ANY SUBPOENAS AVOID WAS THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CAMERAS DO NOT RECORD THE BLOCK CAMERAS THEY ARE THE ALPERS WILL RECORD THEY WILL STORE DATA FOR 30 DAYS THEY WILL BE HELD BY A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT WILL BE ACCESSIBLE ONLY TO VISA SO EMPLOYEES ARE DESIGNATED BY CAPTAIN BAIRD AND AN AUDIT TRAIL. THANK YOU AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S HAVE NO MORE DISCUSSION. LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS AND OBVIOUSLY DAVID, YOU'VE MENTIONED THIS IT IS EVERYONE ELSE THAT OBJECTS WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL ON THIS. NO, NO, NO ROLL CALL. SO THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITH

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OH, LET'S KEEP GOING AND I'M GOING TO GO. KEEP GOING.

RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY BEAR. THANK YOU FOR COMING.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS, CHAIRMAN. YES, CHAIRMAN, YOU NEED TO TAKE A BREAK. OKAY. ACTUALLY I WAS WAITING FOR IT AND AGAIN I LISTENED AS FINANCE COMMITTEE I ALWAYS TRY TO LET THE DISCUSSIONS GO AS LONG AS THEY NEED TO GO. I TRY TO RUSH ANYTHING. SO SOMETIMES WE'RE HERE A LOT LONGER SO I APPRECIATE THE PATIENTS FROM STAFF AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT'S HERE.

SO AGAIN WE WILL TRY TO MOVE THROUGH OUR OTHER ITEMS. IT MIGHT BE ONE OR TWO THAT HAS

[11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE BEAUFORT COUNTY PERSONNEL HANDBOOK POLICY SECTION 4.2 HOLIDAYS & HOLIDAY PAY AS AMENDED TO ADD JUNETEENTH NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE DAY AS A COUNTY-OBSERVED HOLIDAY (FISCAL IMPACT: Any fiscal impact is negligible) - Katherine Mead, Beaufort County Human Resources Director]

JUNETEENTH NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE DAY IS RECOGNIZED YEAR ON JUNE 19TH.

WE ARE ASKING FOR US TO AMEND OUR HOLIDAY SCHEDULE TO INCLUDE THIS AND FOR OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO SERVE AS A PAID HOLIDAY. IF THE HOLIDAY WAS TO FALL ON A SATURDAY WE WOULD OBSERVE ON FRIDAY FITNESS A FALL ON A SUNDAY WE WOULD OBSERVE A MONDAY AND JUST A TIDBIT OF NOTE HERE EVERYONE IN OUR COUNTY, THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES ARE RECOGNIZING THIS HOLIDAY IN ADDITION TO JASPER COUNTY AND CHARLESTON COUNTY. SO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL PASS WITHOUT OBJECTION IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? NO SEEING NO OBJECTION. THIS WILL BE MOVED TO COUNTY

[12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE DONATION OF A LIVE OAK TREE AT WHITEHALL PARK FROM THE FRIENDS OF WHITEHALL PARK - Stefanie M. Nagid, Passive Parks Director]

HOWEVER THE CONTRACTOR THEY HIRED TO BUY THE TREE FROM AND INSTALL IT HAD AVAILABILITY AND TIMING LAST FRIDAY SO THE TREE'S ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED BUT THE FRIENDS DID FULLY FUND AND PAY FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE TREE. IT DOES STILL FALL UNDER THE CITY OF . ITS MAINTENANCE POLICY OUR MAINTENANCE LEASE FOR THE PARK SO THE CITY THE FRIENDS COUNTY STAFF ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS A GOOD THING AND WE HOPE TO CELEBRATE PLANTING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW DISCUSSION WE WILL THEN APPROVE THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION AND SEEING NO OBJECTION THIS HAS BEEN

[13. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE TO INVEST $4,300,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND IN AN INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AT BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT (ARW) TO FUND CONSTRUCTION OF AIRCRAFT HANGERS. (FISCAL IMPACT: Each option improves ARW’s financial position. The backup package contains the details of each option. Option 2 provides a favorable combination of investment and project financing that provides significant benefit to the County by executing a project that will generate revenue immediately upon completion. This revenue (from hangar rent and increased fuel sales) will help fund important deferred airfield safety and facility maintenance projects. The increase in based aircraft also increases aircraft property tax revenues.) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director]

LET'S GO ON TO NUMBER 13 RECORD APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE TO INVEST $4.3 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND. IT IS INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AS BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT TO FUND CONSTRUCTION OF AIRCRAFT HANGARS AND MR. WREMBEL WE'VE GOT YOU HERE BUT NEED A MOTION FIRST I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AND SECONDLY BARTHOLOMEW ALL RIGHT, OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION, MR. WREMBEL GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU. SHOULD ONLY TAKE 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR OR WE JUST GO VOTE YES.

LET'S GO WITH IT QUICK RIGHT NOW. NOW JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY, WE CAME WE'RE BEFORE YOU ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND YOU GOT SOME GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEE. WE'VE SINCE KIND OF RETOOLED OUR OUR NARRATIVE AND REQUESTS SO I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET THAT YOU'VE GOT.

FIRST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ON BEFORE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT WE'VE GOT 3040 HANGARS THERE NOW THAT'S BEEN THE CASE FOR OVER THE LAST PART OF THE LAST 15 TO 18 YEARS.

THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN AT HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPANCY AND WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A WAITING LIST.

WE'VE CURRENTLY GOT WAITING LIST OF 68 PEOPLE WHICH EQUATES PROBABLY ABOUT A 22 YEAR WAIT.

SO YEAH WE TURN OVER ABOUT THREE HANGARS A YEAR ON AVERAGE SO IT'S IT'S A IT'S A HIGH

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WE HOSTED BREAKFAST CLUB WHICH IS A FLY SOCIAL EVENT ON A SUNDAY WE HAD 38 AIRPLANES FLYING WHO NOT BASED HERE SO WE COMPLETELY FILLED OUR PAVED APRON AND WE HAD I THINK 10 TO 12 AIRCRAFT IN THE AREA SO WE WERE IN THE OVERFLOW GRASS PARKING SO ADDITIONAL HANGARS PUT SOME OUR TENANTS WHO ARE CURRENTLY TIED DOWN INTO THE HANGARS AND THEN UP SOME OF THE APRON SPACE BUT THE REVENUE FROM THAT PROJECT ALSO WILL HELP US TO THE APRON AREA FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING THE SITE WORK CONTRACT SO THE WORK THAT WILL BRING THAT PROJECT UP TO PAD LEVEL BUT NOT SLAB LEVEL YET HAS APPROVED AND WE'LL BE AWARDING THAT SOON THAT'S FULLY FUNDED BY SOUTH CAROLINA AERONAUTICS COMMISSION GRANT AND ARPA FUNDS THAT THE AIRPORT HAD AVAILABLE. AND SO WITH THAT HAPPENING SOON WE THINK THAT THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS TO FOLLOW THROUGH AND COMPLETE THE VERTICAL COMPONENT OF THIS.

SO WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL HANGARS OPEN FOR FOR AIRCRAFT USE A FEW LESSER KNOWN FACTS ABOUT THE AIRPORT THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WE DO HAVE A CIVIL AIR PATROL SQUADRON WHO'S ACTIVE OUT TO BE A FOUR EXECUTIVE AIRCRAFT THEY DO BASE IN AIRCRAFT THERE THEY TIE DOWN WE DO NOT CHARGE THEM ANY FEES TO TIE DOWN AND IT'S A IT'S A GOOD SERVICE TO HAVE OUT THERE IT SERVES DURING A STORM AFTERMATH THEY DO DAMAGE ASSESSMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF OTHER FUNCTIONS THAT THEY PERFORM WHEN THERE ARE NOT STORMS. WE ALSO HOUSE MOSQUITO CONTROL THEY'VE GOT A HANGAR ON THE AIRPORT. THEY NOT PAY A GROUND LEASE. IT IS ON AIRPORT PROPERTY.

WHAT THEY DON'T PAY GROUND IS SO IT'S ANOTHER IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH FUNCTION THAT THE AIRPORT SERVES THERE FREE CHARGE AND WE DO HAVE SOME GREAT SERVICE THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE OUT THERE THEY'VE GOT A SUBSTATION IN OUR TERMINAL IN AN AREA THAT WOULD BE OTHERWISE A RENTABLE LEASABLE SPACE THAT WE DO NOT CHARGE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT . WE CERTAINLY LOVE TO HAVE THEIR PRESENCE OUT THERE.

IT'S A FANTASTIC DETERRENT TO HAVE THEIR THEIR CARS IN THE PARKING LOT AND HAVE THEIR PERSONNEL OUT AT THE AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S AVIATION DEPARTMENT OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THEY START AN AVIATION DEPARTMENT AND, A COLONEL BAXLEY FLIES A HELICOPTER OUT THERE AND THAT'S A PIECE OF ROAD OF HIGHWAY FRONT PROPERTY ON HIGHWAY 21 THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THEM AT NO RENT NO GROUNDLINGS CHARGE AS WELL. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT THOSE ARE FORGONE REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE AIRPORT AS WE TALK ABOUT THE HANGARS THE WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME ABOUT THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUES THAT COME IN FROM THE FROM THE AIRCRAFT THAT ARE BASED THERE WE TALKED WITH THE THE AUDITOR AND GOT SOME GOOD FIGURES FROM OUR DEPARTMENT AND CURRENTLY BOTH AIRPORTS TOGETHER THE BASE AIRCRAFT GENERATE JUST OVER $1,000,000 IN PERSONAL TAXES FROM AIRCRAFT ABOUT 40% OF THAT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO BEFORE EXECUTIVE AIRCRAFT OR BEFORE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT AND SO AFTER FROM LAST TEN YEARS THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT ALMOST TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF AIRCRAFT PERSONAL PROPERTY REVENUES FROM YOU FOUR EXECUTIVE AIRPORT INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND NONE OF THAT IS REINVESTED INTO THE AIRPORT . WE HOPE TO CHANGE THAT AT A FUTURE MEETING. WE DO GET ASKED VERY FREQUENTLY BY TENANTS AT THE AIRPORT ABOUT THAT PROPERTY TAX BECAUSE THEY ASK US QUESTIONS ABOUT MAINTENANCE PROJECTS AT, THE AIRPORT AND THE PROLONGED SCHEDULE FOR SOME OF THOSE. AND SO OUR OUR ANSWER TO THEM IS YES THEY DO PAY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES BUT NO THE AIRPORT DOESN'T BENEFIT FROM THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES. SO THEY THEY ARE TUNED INTO THIS AND THEY ARE EXCITED TO SEE THIS PROJECT GO HOPEFULLY SO THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO.

WE KIND OF DID A ROUGH PROJECTION THAT AS WE BUILD OUT THIS PROJECT AND FILL THOSE HANGARS WE WOULD INCREASE THE NUMBER OF BASED AIRCRAFT BY SOMEWHERE AROUND 15 TO 20%.

THAT'S GOING EQUATE TO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 90 AND ONE MILE LINE AND ALL YOUR RELAXING

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THIS IS EASIER 93.7 BLUE JEAN LIVE IN L.A. IN SEAMSTRESS FOR THE BANK AND REDESIGN IRIS MY MARRIED MUSIC MAN BELLA REED YOU MUST'VE SEEN DANCING IT WAS A SALE NOW SHE'S IN OPTION TWO IS THE ONE THAT WE WANT TO INCLUDE IN THE APPROVAL TO COUNTY COUNCIL.

OKAY, SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND THAT I I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE INTEREST RATE OF 0.5% THAT'S NOTHING AND I'M I'M NOT SURE THE PUBLIC WOULD THINK THAT'S OKAY THE LOAN THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR 30 YEARS AT A HALF OF THE PERCENT AND I SEE THE TABLE ON PAGE 81 I GET IT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT DEBT SERVICE I WAS LOOKING MORE AT A 2% INTEREST.

WELL FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE WE DID PROVIDE A TABLE IN THE NARRATIVE THAT SPELLS OUT SEVERAL DIFFERENT INTEREST RATES. IT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW SO THAT WE WANT TO BREAK THAT DOWN JUST SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IF YOU WANTED TO CHOOSE A DIFFERENT INTEREST RATE THERE IT WOULD SHOW YOU WHAT THAT DEBT SERVICE WOULD BE AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT THE REVENUE WOULD BE TO THE AIRPORT. WE CAN MODIFY THIS BECAUSE GOES TO COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE CORRECT AND WE COULD ASK QUESTIONS TO ASK YOU TO DO CERTAIN OTHER THINGS BEFORE WE ADOPT THAT BUT THE THE IDEA IS TO DO OPTION TWO WHICH IS A IF THIS IS CORRECT AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THE UNSTRUCTURED LOAN THAT SO THAT THE LOAN STILL ON OUR BOOKS WE ON THE BOOKS IT'S STILL ON THE BOOKS SO ARE WE EVER GOING TO STRUCTURE WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU ALL BUT WE TOOK THAT OUT OF BECAUSE IT WAS A BIT CONFUSED TOO COMPLICATED I MEAN NOW THAT YOU SOUNDED OUT THERE WE NEEDED TO TAKE YES.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THE NEW CFO MENTIONED TO ME IS WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. SO WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. OKAY.

SO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT TO SEE IF THAT'S GOING TO PASS TO DO OPTION TWO AND THEN VOTE ON THE WE WANT TO CHANGE IT AS MUCH AS I'M RIGHT I KNOW IT SAYS OPTION TWO THERE BUT THE BACK OF DOCUMENTATION SAYS THE PREFERRED OPTION IS ONE THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD PREFER TO READ A MOTION TO AMEND ANYTHING NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AS TO WHICH OPTION NOW BEFORE APPROVAL IS ALL WE HAVE TO DO SO WE GOT A NEW ONE AND THEN WITHIN THAT OPTION ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THE TERM A YEAR BEING 30 YEARS AND YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THE INTEREST RATE BEING PERCENT OF AN INTEREST RATE FOR THE 30 YEAR END? ARE YOU HAPPY WITH $2.5 BILLION BEING THE LOAN IN THE THIRD YEAR? THOSE THREE THINGS THE MAIN THING I TO SEE IN THE BACK OF THE PROJECT RIGHT JUST RECOMMENDED ONE BUT THAT'S JUST BACKGROUND AND NOW WHAT HAVE MOTION IS WHAT YOU GET THAT'S RIGHT AND THAT'S WHY I SAID I HAD TO AMEND BECAUSE THE MOTION WAS JUST WHAT WAS READ IT DIDN'T SAY OPTION TWO THE MOTION SAYS YOU PUT IT ALL FROM THE GENERAL FUND WELL LET'S GO AHEAD WITH THIS.

IT DOESN'T TELL YOU YOU INVEST INVESTED 2.15 IS IN THE GENERAL FUND IF YOU ONE FIVE JUST FROM A LOAN UNLESS YOU CHANGE THOSE NUMBERS AND INVESTMENT RESCUE FOR $4.3 BILLION SO UNLESS YOU CHANGE 4.3 YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING YOU JUST NEED TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AS FAR AS THE LOAN AND THE GRANT THE AMOUNT THE INTEREST RATE

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SO THEN THE QUESTION IS INTEREST RATE TERM OF THE LOAN THAT'S IN THERE RECOMMENDING 30 YEAR AND A HALF PERCENT 2.15 MILLION IN THE FORM OF LOAN FOR JUST A STRAIGHT OUT GRANT, CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. SO ANY MORE DISCUSSION AND WE HAVE A RIGHT AN AMENDMENT ON THE TABLE. RIGHT.

AND WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THE BASIS OF THAT IT A OPTION TO FOR 30 YEARS WITH A HALF AS TABACHNICK SAID SHE DOESN'T LIKE THAT BUT WE CAN MAKE A CHANGE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT TO COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE WHATEVER WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS NOT THE END OF IT AND SO IT MAY BE A SUGGESTION THAT YOU BE PREPARED FOR INTEREST RATES TO GIVE A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT IT AND LOOK AT THE CHART ON PAGE WHATEVER THAT IS.

SO THE QUESTION THEN IS DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT OR JUST GO AHEAD WITH IT AT THE HALF PERCENT? OPTION TWO WE PUSH IT TO COUNCIL. BRIAN IS GOING TO TELL YOU THERE'S NO AMENDMENT RIGHT HE'S GETTING READY TO POP UP. I'M SAYING I'M RIGHT. I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.

SO AGAIN RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION THE MOTION IS THAT WE WOULD GO WOULD RECOMMEND OPTION TWO TO GO TO COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT.

WAS THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? NO, I SO WE WERE GOING TO MOVE THIS TO COUNCIL. MM. AS AS AS IT'S AMENDED AND NOW WE HAVE THE VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT AS AMENDED AS AMENDED.

BRIAN YOU OKAY WITH IT. YOU GOT THE LOOK ON YOUR FACE LIKE NOW WE'LL GET TO THE WE'RE GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE THE AMEND IN A MOTION MOTION WHICH IS TO PUSH THIS THE COUNCIL'S OPTION TO AS AS IT'S WRITTEN IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT SEEING NO OBJECTION THEN THIS WILL GO TO COUNCIL FOR HEARING. SO THANK YOU, JOHN FOR COMING.

APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU. WILL BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS TERMS. YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S LET'S MOVE ON THEN I AND THAT ONE WAS EASIER THAN I

[14. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ACCEPT OPERATIONAL GRANT AWARD FROM THE COASTAL COMMUNITY FOUNDATION’S BEAUFORT FUND GRANT PROGRAM (FISCAL IMPACT: Receipt of $14,000 to be applied to the Beaufort County Human Services Department “Contributions” 2503-50-0000-47030) - Ben Boswell, Director Human Services]

GRANT PROGRAM. AND WE HAVE MR. BEN BOSWELL COMING UP FROM HE'S DIRECTOR OF HUMAN SERVICES THEN THANK YOU FOR COMING. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AND HAVE A IS OUR MOTION FOR THIS I'LL MAKE THE MOTION RIGHT THANK YOU.

WAS IS OUR SECOND ON SECONDED ALL RIGHT SECONDED AND. WE'LL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION.

LET'S HAVE A PRESENTATION MR. BOSWELL. GO AHEAD THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO SAY JUST THAT WE SUBMITTED THIS IN THE SPRING THIS IS A GENERAL OPERATIONS GRANT FROM THE COAST COMMUNITY FOUNDATION FROM THE FUND WE'VE APPLIED HISTORICALLY CERTAINLY FOR THE PAST 11 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN HERE I THINK FOR LONGER THAN THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR FUND THE GRANT APPLICATION ITSELF IS PROVIDED IN THE BACK UP PRIMARILY FOR ACTIVITIES AS IT RELATES TO SUPPORTING COUNTY FAMILIES BUT . ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR ANY QUESTIONS I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY WE ONLY 15,000 I KNOW YOU DON'T MAKE THAT DECISION BUT IT WAS KIND OF WEIRD WE FOR 25 AND WE GOT 15 THAT'S STANDARD PROCESS FOR ALL GRANT PROCESSES ACROSS THE BOARD YOU ALWAYS SHOOT FOR THE MOON AND THEN YOU JUST GET WHAT YOU GET.

I THINK WE'RE MUCH MORE THAN 15 BUT OKAY I'M SIX TIME FOR THE SENIORS DISCUSSION WE APPROVE THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION IS THERE ANY OBJECTION SEEING NO OBJECTION THIS HAS APPROVED

[15. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY TO ENTER INTO A SPECIAL SOURCE REVENUE CREDIT AGREEMENT WITH PROJECT MICRO (FISCAL IMPACT: Company will be offered equivalent to base FILOT – 6% over a 20-year period) - John O’Toole, Executive Director, Beaufort County Economic Development Corporation]

WE HAVE MR. JOHN O'TOOLE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. MR. O'TOOLE, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND INTRODUCE YOUR COUNTERPART. THIS IS WILL JOHNSON. HE IS OUR OUR ATTORNEY AND MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE ON SS OUR SEAS AND FELLOWS AND THEN KELLY BRUNSON'S WITH US AS WELL SO YEAH I'LL GIVE A LITTLE ATTENTION IN SECOND IN MOTION I'M GOING TO JUST PUT A BIG SIGN UP LIKE THIS BROWN AND MR. GLOVER IS THE SECOND ONE RIGHT UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH MR. O'TOOLE GOOD. I SAW YOUR COUNSEL RAISED I FELT LIKE IT WAS IN THE BRITISH

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OKAY I MAY TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL SOONER THAN I EXPECTED BUT BASICALLY IN OUR CONSTITUTION THERE ARE OUR WEIGHTY TAX RATES THAT REALLY WOULD HAVE KEPT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OUT OF SOUTH CAROLINA. SO WHEN YOU SEE THE BMW AND THE BOEINGS AND THE BEHEMOTH PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME TO SOUTH CAROLINA THE ONLY WAY SOUTH CAROLINA COULD COMPETE WAS FOR THOSE HOST COMMUNITIES USE FELOS WHICH IS A FEE IN LIEU OF TAXES AND SS PASSES WHICH IS SPECIAL SAUCE REVENUE CREDITS TO WORK IT.

MORE RECENTLY THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED SOME OF THE TAX LAWS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO THE PHILO AS MUCH SO THERE ARE SOME REBATES PLACE AT THE STATE LEVEL THE SS OUR ARE OFTEN USED ON AN EXISTING STRUCTURE ON A NEW STRUCTURE YOU MIGHT USE FELOS BUT WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS MAKE BEAUFORT AS WELCOMING AS ANY COUNTY IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND WE TRY TO TREAT PROJECT EQUALLY. AND SO WITH THAT LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE ABOUT PROJECT MICRO. THE PROJECT IS ALREADY AND SO YOU HAVE LIKE A YEAR AT THE END THERE IN MIDST OF BUILDING OUT THE FACILITY THEY HAVE BASICALLY A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY WHERE THEY EXPECT TO EXPAND BY ANOTHER 15,000 SQUARE FEET.

THEY'RE BRINGING 42 JOBS. THE NAME OF THE COMPANY IS TO LINK CO THEY'RE DISTRIBUTOR TO DEFENSE AND AEROSPACE IT'S LIKE RIGHT IN ONE OF OUR OUR OUR OUR PRIME 42 JOBS AVERAGE COMP $125,000 THEY ARE GOING TO INVEST $7.1 MILLION INTO THE FACILITY AND OUR ECONOMIC ANALYSIS SAYS THAT IT WILL RESULT AFTER THREE YEARS IN 75 DIRECT AND INDIRECT JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITY IT'LL PRODUCE INCOME $17.6 MILLION FOR THE PEOPLE THOSE 75 JOBS AND THERE'LL BE AN ADDITIONAL FIVE $5 MILLION IN BUSINESS SPEND. SO IT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND IT'S IN A SECTOR WHERE WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE AND YOU KNOW AT THE END OF OUR MEETINGS TIM DONATO HE SAID THIS IS WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU? IT WAS A LUNCH WITH GERALD WHOSE DISTRICT IT'S IN AND WE SAID WE YOU TO BRING US FIVE MORE LEADS.

SO THAT'S HOW WE WE CHANGED GENERATE BUSINESS IS BY TREATING PEOPLE WELL AND THEN ASKING TO HELP US BRING THEIR SUPPLIERS. SO WE HOPE THIS IS BEGINNING OF MORE GOOD THINGS TO COME AND NOW WILL CAN CORRECT ALL THE FACTS I MAY HAVE.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? THANKS JOHN AND THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE COUNTY I KNOW WE'RE LATE SO I'LL MAKE IT REALLY QUICK BUT I UP IN LAKE CITY I'M IN COLUMBIA NOW SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN YOUR COUNTY AS A CHILD AT VANDERMEER TENNIS CENTER BEFORE I REALIZED I DIDN'T HAVE A FUTURE THERE HENCE LAWYER AND I'M HERE TODAY IN ANOTHER CAPACITY YOU HAVE A SPECIAL SOURCE OF REVENUE CREDIT INSTEAD OF A FEE IN LIEU OF TAX AGREEMENT HERE AND AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR A WHILE YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN FEE IN LIEU OF TAX AGREEMENTS THEY'RE LITTLE BIT MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD THE REASON THAT WE HAVE A SPECIAL SOURCE OF REVENUE AGREEMENT HERE WITH A 12% SS OR C FOR 20 YEARS IS BECAUSE THIS PROJECT INVOLVES AN EXISTING BUILDING. THERE IS A NUANCE IN THE SOUTH CAROLINA FEE IN LIEU OF TAX LAW THAT COUNTIES CAN'T USE TRADITIONAL FEE IN LIEU OF TAX AGREEMENTS WHERE AN EXISTING BUILDING IS INVOLVED UNLESS THE PROJECT IS 25 MILLION OR MORE, MOST COUNTIES ACROSS THE STATE ARE VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT COMPANIES COMING INTO EXISTING BUILDINGS THEM UP BUT IT REQUIRES US TO USE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TOOL. SO WHAT WE DID HERE THE REASON THAT YOU SEE AT 12% THAT'S A SOURCE FOR 20 YEARS IS WE RAN THE NUMBERS DOWN TO THE PENNY TO TRY TO GET THIS AS CLOSE AS IT POSSIBLY COULD BE TO WHAT A BASIC TRADITIONAL FEE IN LIEU OF TAX WITH NO SS OR SERVICES WOULD DO. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE ON HOW WE GOT TO THAT NUMBER I'M HAPPY TO GO INTO MORE BUT MINDFUL OF YOUR TIME SO I'LL BE HAPPY

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[16. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TO PLACE LAND PURCHASED BY PROJECT MICRO INTO AN EXISTING MULTI-COUNTY INDUSTRIAL PARK – Project Micro (FISCAL IMPACT: Allocation of revenue would be 99% to Beaufort County and 1% to Jasper County in the Beaufort County portion of the park and 99% to Jasper County and 1% to Beaufort County in the Jasper County portion of the park. This project would fall within the Beaufort County portion of the park) - John O’Toole, Executive Director, Beaufort County Economic Development Corporation]

CAN DO THIS, HOWARD IN A SECOND. A SECOND.

THANK YOU, MR. I OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION. YES, SIR.

FORGOT ABOUT THAT. SO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SPECIAL SOURCE REVENUE CREDITS IT'S A LEGAL FORMALITY THAT YOU HAVE TO DESIGNATE THE PROPERTY AS A MULTI-COUNTY PARK.

SO THE SECOND STEP I WOULD SAY IS A VERY MUNDANE JUST LOGICALLY FROM OFFERING THE SSR AS THE AREA ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. SO YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS WE WILL CALL THE QUESTION ORDERS OR ANY OBJECTION THAT PASSES OBJECTION SEEING NO OBJECTION THIS IS ALSO PASSED. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR COMING FOR THAT.

[18. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR BROADBAND EXPANSION TO SERVE UNDERSERVED AREAS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY TO CONNECT HOLDING, LLC (AKA BRIGHT SPEED) FOR RFP #111824 (BEAUFORT COUNTY BROADBAND PROJECT) IN THE AMOUNT OF $367,069 TO BE FUNDED WITH ARPA FUNDS. (FISCAL IMPACT: $367,069 of remaining ARPA funds Acct. # 2330-40-0000-54100) - Hank Amundson, Special Assistant to County Administrator]

LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO NUMBER 17 RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR BROADBAND EXPANSION TO SERVE UNDERSERVED AREAS OF COUNTY TO CONNECT HOLDING LLC A.K.A BRANT SPEED FOR RFP 111824 AND IN THE AMOUNT OF HUNDRED $67,069 TO BE FUNDED WITH ARPA FUNDS THIS WEEK THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT YOU MS. TAVERNER BECAUSE IT'S OUR SECOND ALL RIGHT AND FOR DISCUSSION, MR. HANKE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE GO FORWARD AND GIVE REAL QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THIS IS. ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS ATTACHED TO YOUR DOCUMENT PACKET WHICH IS THE BID WE'VE SPOKEN A COUPLE OF TIMES DURING MY ARPA REPORTS ABOUT PUTTING OUT THIS RFP FOR THE UNDERSERVED AREAS OF COUNTY YOU ALSO HAVE A MAP OF THE WINNING PROPOSAL WHERE THE AREAS THEY'RE GOING TO SERVE SO IT COVERS ACTUALLY OUT ON SAINT HELENA IT COVERS SOME OF END OF LADY'S ISLAND AND ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THE VICO UP TO THE FARTHEST REACHED UNDER-SERVED AREA OF A PENINSULA NORTH THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE COUNTY WE ORIGINALLY HAD FOUR PROPOSERS AND AFTER THE ROUND IT WAS REDUCED TO TWO TWO OF THEM WERE A LOT ARE HEAVY WIRELESS WHERE WE WANTED TO HAVE FIBER TO THESE AREAS AND THEN AFTER REVIEW OF THIS IN INTERVIEWING OF THE FINAL TWO TEAMS IT WAS CLEAR TO ALL THREE BY OUR SCORES THAT WE SUBMITTED THAT THE BRIGHT SPOT PROPOSAL WAS THE WINNER. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW THE QUOTED A NUMBER OF SERVED UNDERSERVED NOW SERVED HOUSES AS A PART OF THIS THAT IS THE I GUESS I'M COLORBLIND BUT THEY'RE YELLOW OR GREEN DOTS AT THE END OF THE LINE THE POINT IS THEY THEY THEY AIMED TO THE END OF THE LINE BECAUSE EVERY ON THE WAY GETS SERVED. SO WHILE THAT NUMBER SAYS A HIGH ONES MAYBE LOW TWOS THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE THAN 2000 HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE A LINE RUN BY IT BY THIS. AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.

WE COMPETED IT. WE PUT IT OUT THIS TIME WE HEARD YOUR LAST TIME ON OUR LAST TIME WE AWARDED AND WE FELT LIKE WE GOT THE BEST PRODUCT FOR THE UNDERSERVED AREAS OF THE COUNTY. DO WE HAVE BRIGHT SPEEDS IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY? I NEVER HEARD OF THAT ONE SPEED IS GREAT. NO NO SPARK.

LIKE THIS HEARTBREAKING STORY. YEAH. YEAH, RIGHT.

SPEED IS A COMPANY THAT'S AN AMALGAMATION OF SEVERAL OLDER COMPANIES WHICH I THINK IT INCORPORATES AND SPECTRUM AND DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER THAT DON'T QUOTE ME BUT THAT IS A NEW IT'S A NEW COMPANY THAT WAS PART OF THEIR PRESENTATION.

IT'S HOW MUCH THEY ARE THE CULTURE AND GROWTH AND SERVICE OFFERING IN SOME HOUSES AND THIS ON THESE LINES WILL HAVE MORE THAN ONE OPTION AT THIS POINT WHICH THEN BREEDS COMPETITION WHICH BREEDS BETTER PRICES FOR ACCESS. OKAY ANY ANY MORE DISCUSSION AND MORE QUESTIONS THIS QUICKLY? I THINK WHEN I LOOK AT THE WHETHER THIS IS THE NORTHERN PART OF THE ISN'T IT THERE IS SOME NORTHERN AND ON THE MAP.

YES BUT IF YOU I I'M GLAD YOU ASKED BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED. THANK YOU. THERE THERE WAS ONE PROJECT THAT WE FUNDED EARLIER THIS YEAR IN MAY FOR PA GREG WHICH IS NOW SPARC WHAT THEY ARE DOING IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THIS MAP ENDS THEY'VE CONTINUED DOWN FARTHER SOUTH JUST A LITTLE FURTHER A LITTLE FARTHER SOUTH AND WEST. ADDITIONALLY COMCAST WAS

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OKAY GLAD TO HEAR THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS HERE HOW SOON DO THEY GET STARTED OF PEOPLE'S WARNINGS? WELL, I'LL LOOK AND I'LL LOOK AT THE TIMELINE THAT THEY PUT IN IT BUT THEY'RE GOING TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN PLANNING AND PERMITTING PROCESSES IN THE COMING YEAR. GOOD. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR I HAD ONE MORE ON PAGE 178 IT SAYS ALL RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL SERVICES WITHIN THE TERRITORY ARE ABLE TO REQUEST RECEIVE SERVICE INSTALLED PERPETUALLY AT NO COST THE FIBER NOT TO IT IT'S LIKE WHAT NO COST THE PHYSICAL FIBER YEAH HOUSEHOLDS INITIALLY DECLINED SERVICE A ROLLOUT CAN STILL WELL WE HAVE THE GOOD PART AND IN THEIR INTERVIEW PROCESS MADE SURE THAT NO PROMOTIONAL THERE WON'T BE A DEAD DATE TO SIGN JUST LIKE WITH ANY PROVIDER THEY SAID IT MAY CHANGE BUT IT WON'T CHANGE SPECIFIC TO THESE LOCATIONS SO I HAVE A DIFFERENT PROVIDER AND EVERY YEAR I MIGHT GET A NEW PROMOTION AND. IF YOU BUY NEW SERVICE YOU MIGHT GET A BETTER PROMOTION THIS TIME BUT EVERYBODY FLOATS TOGETHER.

THEY SAID IT WILL BE A STANDARD PRODUCT THE SYSTEM WIDE NOT HOLD THE PEOPLE HOSTAGE BUT WILL GO TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL. AND I CAN I CAN SURE TO ASK THAT QUESTION FOR YOU IS THIS THANK YOU. YOU'VE BEEN DEALING WITH ALL OF THESE PROVIDERS. ARE THEY BASICALLY EQUITABLE AT THIS TIME AS FAR AS I DON'T KNOW WORSE THAN WITH YES. SO GOOD QUESTION. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS IN OUR RFP WE REQUIRED THAT THEY HAVE A MINIMUM OC SPEED UP AND SPEED DOWN OFFERED AND THAT LIMITED SOME OF THE SERVICE AND WE ALSO WANTED WHY WE WANTED THE HARD FIBER FOR WE FOR RELIABILITY ETC. AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S HOW YOU GET THOSE FASTER UP AND DOWN SPEEDS. OKAY. MR. YES.

GOOD SAY THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS OUT TO BID AND DOING IT COMPETITIVELY.

APPRECIATE THAT ANY MORE ANY MORE QUESTIONS SEEING NONE OF OBJECTION WE WILL PASS THIS ON THE COUNCIL IS THERE ANY OBJECTION DO NOT SEE ANY OBJECTION.

SO THIS WILL BE MOVED TO COUNCIL RIGHT? THANK YOU.

THANK. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO NUMBER 18

[19. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION TO EXTEND THE BROADBAND EVERYWHERE - CATEGORY 3 (BE-CAT3) GRANT PROGRAM END DATE AND ALLOW US TO EXPAND THE REMAINING $170,000 OF ARPA FUNDS IN ORDER TO SERVE NEW CUSTOMERS REACH BY ONGOING AND UPCOMING BROADBAND EXPANSION PROGRAMS.(FISCAL IMPACT: $170,000.00 from ARPA funds to be used for Broadband assistance.) - Hank Amundson, Special Assistant to County Administrator]

CAN I HAVE SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION MOTION CHAIRMAN THANK YOU, MISS HOURS ARE SECOND SECOND. THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER ONE WORD I WANT TO CORRECT THEIR WHERE WAS THAT BRIAN? HE SAID EXPAND EXPAND NOT EXPAND EXPEND THE REMAINING HUNDRED 70,000 AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT I WAS TO EXPAND THE REMAINING 70,000 I'D LOVE TO EXPAND IT BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THERE HAS BEEN IT SAYS EXPAND AND SAYS MAYBE GET CORRECTED. I'VE GOT TO HEAR HIS EXPAND. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT FOR Y'ALL SO. IT'S RIGHT HERE. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT YOU APPROVED LAST YEAR. HOWEVER, IN LOOKING BACK TO MAKE SURE WE DOCUMENTED AND OBLIGATED ALL OF OUR FUNDS PROPERLY FOUND THAT THE RESOLUTION SET AN END DATE OF 2024 WHICH IS NEXT MONTH THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A GOOD TO TO EXTEND THE TIMELINE TO MATCH AND GIVE TIME FOR THOSE THAT WERE RUNNING NEW HIGH SPEED INTERNET PASSED THEIR PROPERTY OF THEM SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE IT NOW BUT DON'T WANT TO AND UNABLE TO PAY TO RUN IT DOWN A QUARTER MILE DRIVEWAY. SO WE SPOKE TO DURING THE RFP PROCESS AND THROUGHOUT THIS LAST YEAR AND TALKING TO THE INTERNET COMPANIES TO SAY OH YOU MUST SEE THIS YOU KNOW HOW FAR EVERYBODY HERE WHO MIGHT LIVE IN A MORE URBAN SETTING THE COMPANY USUALLY COVERS UP TO A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET. THERE'S USUALLY A STANDARD THEY'LL COVER TWO HERE INCLUDED IN YOUR INSTALL FEE IF THEN YOU HAVE TO START PAYING MORE TO GET IT DOWN A LONG DRIVEWAY SO THIS IS CALLED THE LONG DRIVEWAY PROGRAM THAT YOU PASSED.

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[20. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LOCAL ACCOMMODATION TAX AND LOCAL HOSPITALITY TAX FY25 LIST OF COUNTY PROJECTS. (FISCAL IMPACT: None- All projects must be properly procured and come back to committee and council as appropriate prior to funds being committed. Dollars amounts listed in the schedule are estimates which must be fully vetted via the planning and procurement process) -John Robinson, Assistant County Administrator - Public Safety]

LET'S MOVE ON NOW TO NUMBER 19 AND THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH NEW FOUR COUNTY LOCAL ACCOMMODATIONS TAX AND LOCAL HOSPITALITY TAX FISCAL 25 LIST OF COUNTY PROPERTIES AND THE FISCAL IMPACT NONE ALL PROJECTS BE PROPERLY PROCURE AND COME BACK TO COMMITTEE IT IS COUNCIL AND COUNCIL AS APPROPRIATE PRIOR TO FUNDS COMMITTED DOLLAR AMOUNTS LISTED IN THE SCHEDULE ARE ESTIMATES WHICH MUST BE FULLY VESTED VIA THE PLANNING AND PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

MR.. MOTION THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT WE HAVE IS THERE A SECOND PLEASE? I'LL MAKE THE SECOND RIGHT. THANK YOU.

MS. BARTHOLOMEW, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MOVE THIS THE COUNCIL AS IS OR WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MR. ROBINSON AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG AS WE KEPT ALL RIGHT.

IS ANY MORE DISCUSSION C NO DISCUSSION. WE WILL THEN APPROVE THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS TO COUNCIL AND I SEE NO OBJECTION SO THIS WILL BE APPROVED OBJECTION. RIGHT AND THEN LET'S MOVE ON

[21. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ACCEPT A FEDERAL SUBAWARD GRANT FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH FOR $23,229.60. (FISCAL IMPACT: No fiscal impact. No matching funds are required) - John Robinson, Assistant County Administrator - Public Safety]

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION WHEN WE CAN APPROVE THIS? WITHOUT OBJECTION. I SEE NO OBJECTION.

[22. DISCUSSION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF PATRICK MITCHELL OR MARK PRESNELL TO THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT UTILITY BOARD FOR A FOUR-YEAR TERM WITH THE EXPIRATION DATE OF NOVEMBER 2028.]

ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FOR THAT? YES.

SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GET CLARIFICATION I KNOW THE CHAIR CAME IN AND ADVOCATED FOR MR. MITCHELL AND I BELIEVE I GAVE A BRIEF BACKGROUND OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE SO MR. MITCHELL MISSED TURNING IN HIS ABILITY OR HIS REAPPOINTMENT PAPERWORK IN A TIMELY FASHION.

THE COUNTY AND MYSELF HAD COMMUNICATED WITH MR. PRESNELL HE ACTUALLY IMPACTED BY DEBBY.

HE HAD SIGNIFICANT STORMWATER FLOODING ON PROPERTY AND FROM THERE WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THERE'S A CASCADING FAILURE IN A LOT OF PLACES ON LADY'S ISLAND FOR STORMWATER THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED SO SINCE BOTH PARTIES HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT BEING REAPPOINTED BUT ALSO THE NEW APPOINTMENT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FAIR FOR US TO DISCUSS BOTH OF THEM AND HAVE THEM BOTH BE HEARD. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WIN EITHER WAY PATRICK WOULD BE REAPPOINTED AS YOU KNOW, WITH EXPERIENCE WHEREAS MR. PEREZ NOW DOES HAVE AN INTERESTING BACKGROUND I THINK HE DOES BRING HE UNDERSTANDS STORMWATER AND I THINK GETTING A NEW PERSPECTIVE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL AS WELL.

SO I THINK EITHER WAY THE DISTRICT WINS I THINK THE COUNTY WINS BUT I THOUGHT IN THE INTEREST OF FAIRNESS IT'D BE BEST FOR EVERYBODY TO DISCUSS OPENLY AND AT THIS POINT I WOULD I WOULD NOMINATE MR. PEREZ NOW TO A NEW APPOINTMENT FOR THIS.

RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND FOR MR. MITCHELL SO WE'D HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT IN EFFECT. NO QUESTION THEN IF THAT FAILS THEN THAT'S WHATEVER WE WOULD THEN COME BACK FOR ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO APPOINT MR. PRESNELL AND WAS BROWN GOOD IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS MARK FEINBERG THAT WAS THAT WAS A CHAIRMAN I KNOW WHO HE IS HE WAS RECALLED HE WAS RECOMMENDING PATRICK MITCHELL WHO HE SERVED WITH.

OH YES. I BELIEVE 2012 WAS WHEN PATRICK.

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YOU AS THE COUNCILMAN WANT MORE NOT PATRICK IS THAT YOU'RE SAYING YEAH AND I WOULD I'D PREFER TO TO GET MORE FEINBERG WOULD LIKE PATRICK CORRECT RIGHT OKAY AND LIKE I SAID EITHER WAY THINK THE COUNTY WINS BUT IN THE INTEREST OF FAIRNESS I WANTED EVERYBODY BE HEARD AND DISCUSSED QUESTIONS OF THE NUMBER OF VOTES NEEDED.

THAT'S WHEN IT GOES TO FULL COUNCIL. RIGHT.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. OKAY.

YES. PATRICK MITCHELL IS HAS LIVED ON LEY'S ISLAND ALL HIS LIFE AND HIS FAMILY HAS BUT HE'S ALSO IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS.

I MEAN HE HE I GO ON THE WAVES ON STORMWATER AND HE HE FULLY PARTICIPATE IN EVERYTHING AND HE KNOWS A LOT OF I MEAN HE'S NOT AN ENGINEER BUT HE'S IN CONSTRUCTION SO HE'S GOT HIS COMPANIES MITCHELL BROTHERS AND THEY THERE'S SECOND GENERATION AND I THINK ONE EXPERIENCE I THINK YOU KNOW EITHER ONE BUT I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MR. PERSONNEL TO BE ON ANOTHER BOARD AND COMMISSION TOO. AND I THOUGHT I APPLAUD ANYBODY STEPPING UP WILLING TO SERVE AND THIS IS NOT A CONTENTIOUS THING.

YOU KNOW, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF FAIRNESS WANTED TO BE HEARD AND I THINK THE COUNTY WINS EITHER. SO WHY IS ANY MORE DISCUSSION? THERE'S BEEN NO DISCUSSION SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A VOTE FOR THIS IF YOU COULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLE PLAYS AND AGAIN WHAT HAPPENS IS OBVIOUSLY IF MR. MITCHELL WHO'S UP RIGHT NOW GETS THE MAJORITY VOTES THAT HE'D BE RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL FOR THE COUNCIL HAVE THE FINAL VOTE IF FOR SOME REASON MR. MITCHELL DOES NOT GET THAT THEN WOULD HAVE TO OPEN UP FOR AGAIN TO MAKE ANOTHER NOMINATION.

COUNCILMEMBER HOWARD YES. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER YES. COUNCILMEMBER BROWN YES.

COUNCILMEMBER BARTHOLOMEW NO. CHAIRMAN PASSMAN YES. COMMITTEE VICE-CHAIR TABACHNICK NO. COMMITTEE CHAIR LAWSON. MARK LAWSON YES.

THE MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WILL BE MOVED TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND THEN LET ME JUMP BACK HERE WE GOT A COUPLE OTHER NUMBER 22 BOARDS

[23. BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPOINTMENTS & REAPPOINTMENTS]

IS THERE ANY REASON SOMEONE WANTS TO SEPARATE THESE OUT? NO.

I SEE TO JOHN TOTALLY. AND DENISE. YEAH RIGHT.

JUST I JUST LOST MY. IT'S JOHN AND DENISE. ALL RIGHT.

SO I SAID WE HAVE A APPOINTMENTS RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL FOR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND THAT WOULD BE THE APPOINTMENT OF JOHN TEETER TO THE DESIGN BOARD FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM WITH THE EXPIRATION DATE OF NOVEMBER 20TH, 28TH FOR DISTRICT FOUR.

AND THEN ALSO I RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF DENISE PRISCILLA TO THE DESIGN BOARD REVIEW BOARD FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM WITH THE EXPIRATION DATE OF NOVEMBER 2028. SO I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE SO MOVEMENTS TO YOU A SECOND PLEASE. ALL ANY MORE DISCUSSION? I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

I NOTICE BOTH OF THESE BRAND NEW SERVING OF FIRST TERM AND THAT WAS THAT KIND INFLUENCED ME IN THE LAST VOTE WE DID BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KEEP IN ENGAGING OUR RESIDENTS INSTEAD OF KEEPING PEOPLE ON FOUR TERMS FIVE TERMS SIX TERMS HERE WE HAVE TWO NEW PEOPLE WHICH IS GREAT BUT TWO NEW VOLUNTEERS. ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? WE WILL APPROVE THEM WITHOUT OBJECTION AND MOVE TO COUNCIL SEEING NO OBJECTION THEY ARE APPROVED. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD NEED TO SEE? LET'S JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING ON THE LAST CALL NOTICE WHEN WE YOU BOTH THINGS FOR THE COUNCIL IF YOU FIND THAT THEY'RE QUALIFIED AND THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS AS OUT OF THE BLUE TOO BECAUSE IT'S A REPEAT TERM YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF VOTES.

I THINK THERE'S TEN OF 11 THAT PASSED YOU A REVOTE AND YOU CONSIDER THE OTHER QUALIFIED THAT HE GOT THE I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT VOTE NEEDS TO UP THERE ON THE VOTE SO IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE COUNCIL TO BRING IT BACK. ALL RIGHT.

SO IT WAS NEVER BEEN EXPLAINED TO US LIKE THAT BEFORE. SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE MEANING THAT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THAT HAPPENED WE JUST VOTED WE JUST

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BUT THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE MEMBER YET COME BACK. YEAH IF YOU FIND THAT THEY'RE BOTH QUALIFIED IN BOTH BUT THEY'RE IN THE FIRST ONE BUT YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON DOESN'T GET THE TEN OF 11 VOTES THAT ARE REQUIRED YOU GET ANOTHER NEED TO CONSIDER IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET DISQUALIFIED BEFORE SO SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO SO AS NOT TO DO ANYTHING AND BOTH THINGS WILL GO UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF PATRICK MITCHELL BY FINANCE COMMITTEE VOTE RIGHT. I WOULD FEEL BETTER IF SOMEONE HAD MADE A MOTION THAT THEY WERE BOTH VOTING FOR LET'S GO BACK TO THE CORPORATIONS THERE AND THEY BOTH HAVE DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS AND THEN WE CAN THE HERE CAN BE REFLECTED AS FAR AS YOU'RE MAKING AN APPROVER IS THE MITCHELL RIGHT IN HIS QUALIFYING HE'S JUST NOT THE ONE THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE CAN WE CAN DO A MOTION OR AMENDMENT TO OUR JUST A MOTION TO FIND THAT MR. RUDIN KNOWS THE QUALIFIED IN THAT IT WOULD BE A FORWARD IN SO I GUESS I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND WHAT ITEM NUMBER IS AND I APOLOGIZE IT WAS OVER YOU NEED TO AMEND THE MOTION HAVING A MOTION TO MOVE TO A NEW MOTION IF YOU WANT TO IF YOU WANT TO FORWARD ANOTHER NAME IS A DIFFERENT STORY YOU MADE A MOTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL MR. MITCHELL CORRECT I. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMITTEE FINDS THAT MR. PERSONNEL QUALIFIED WELL IN CASE MR. MITCHELL THEN IF REQUIRED OF VOTES OF THE COMMITTEE AT THE COUNCIL VOTE THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE TO MAKE THE MOTION AS FOR SECOND AND THAT VOTE AND THEN GO OVER QUESTION SO IF THE IF MR. MITCHELL GET TEN OF 11 COUNSEL THEN THE SECOND GUY GOES UP WHAT IF HE DOES HE NEED SIX OF THE 11 MAJORITY WE TO GET MAJORITY IN THE MAJORITY AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE BUT THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER YOU YOU JUST KEEP YOUR SEARCH I UNDERSTOOD SO THE QUESTION IS MR. WAS TO BE SENT TO COUNSEL BY THIS RIGHT OKAY WHY WOULD WE VOTE ON HIM IF HE DOESN'T GET THE REQUIRED OF VOTES THEN WE'RE GOING TO START THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE DO IT AT THAT MEETING OR SEND IT BACK. I AGREE WITH IT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR UNDER TWO YEARS YOU APPOINTED TWO AGENCIES WORK CONDITIONS AND THREE RIGHT. GET TWO NOMINATIONS AND SEND THE PERFECT COMMITTEE TO REVIEW APPLICATIONS ON FILE AND SELECT NOMINEES TO BE SUBMITTED TO FULL COUNCIL INTERVIEWS MAY BE SCHEDULED AT THE REQUEST OF THE CHAIRMAN OF MAJOR IN SITUATIONS WHERE TECHNICAL DISPOSITION OF CASES ARE REQUIRED WITHIN THE CHARTER APPOINTMENT THE COMMITTEE WILL REVIEW AND ANALYZE THE PICK OF THE PUBLICATION THAT WILL RECOMMEND AND OR COUNSEL ONLY THOSE NAMES OF QUALIFIED THAT'S GOING TO REMOVE THE SIGNATURES SO SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THIS WHERE IF MR. MITCHELL DOESN'T GET THE TEN OUT OF 11 VOTES THAT'S REQUIRED AND GET TO NEGATIVE HERE THAT ONCE IT'S UP THERE THEN YOU'LL HAVE NAME AS AN OPTION TO CONSIDER TO SEE IF HE GETS THE MAJORITY VOTE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK TO THE TABLE. YOU GET TO CONSIDER IT.

THIS COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING, MR. MITCHELL THAT MAY OR MAY NOT CARRY THE DAY AT THE FULL COUNCIL FULL COUNTS AS ONE GETS THIS YOU'RE JUST RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

A CERTAIN CANDIDATE OF THE TWO CORRECT. SO I GUESS I'D BE MAKING A MOTION TO FIND OUT. MR. GOSNELL WAS ALSO VOTING IN THAT ONE.

THAT MOTION RIGHT THERE? YEAH. MR. SECOND ISAAC THEIR VOTE TO FIND IS EVERY THIS IS A ONE GAME WITH HIM BEING CONSIDERED A CANDIDATE.

WELL NO NO NO NOT I'M NOT I MEAN I THINK WE HAD A MOTION TO BRING FORWARD THAT NAME.

WE DID THAT AND IT SHOULD AND IF WE DECIDE IT IF HE DOESN'T GET 11 VOTES ON TEN VOTES, IT GOES BACK TO THE PROCESS. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I THINK YOU TO BE EXPEDIENT BUT I THINK THAT'S ME. SO I WILL AGREE WITH SITTING ANOTHER NAME AT THIS TIME ANYWAY IF WE HAVE ANOTHER NAME WE MAY AS WELL NOT EVEN COME TO THE COMMITTEE, JUST GO TO THE WHOLE ENTIRE BOARD. WE GOT TWO QUALIFIED PEOPLE. WHICH ONE ARE YOU AND WE WON'T HAVE THE DISCUSSION IN COMMITTEE. I THINK HE'S READING OUR PROCEDURE. I MEAN IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE OF THE PURPOSE COMMITTEE IS TO CONSIDER THE OPINIONS THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. WE DID SAY YEAH YOU DID IT BUT

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IF NOT YOU GET OPINION DOES HE HAVE NO VOTES OR NOT? WE GO BACK.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE SIR, PLEASE. WHAT ARE WE VOTING? YEAH, WE ARE VOTING ON WHAT I'VE HAD MR. PERSONNEL IS GOING TO BE LISTED A CLERK THAT I'VE LISTED AS A QUALIFIED APPLICANT AT THE COUNTY COUNCIL WHICH IS WITH PATRICK MITCHELL BEING THE RECOMMENDED FROM THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT. IS THE MEMBER BARTHOLOMEW YES COMMITTEE VICE CHAIR TAVERNER I'M TRYING TO READ MATTER SO WE'RE SENDING BOTH NAMES UP. YES WE'VE MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT IS MR. MITCHELL BUT BUT THIS WOULD ALSO SEND THE SECOND NAME UP AS HE IS QUALIFIED.

YES, YES. COUNCILMEMBER HOWARD. YES COUNCILMEMBER BROWN.

YES COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER NO CHAIRMAN PASS IT NO COMMITTEE CHAIR LAWSON.

MARK LAWSON YES. THE MOTION YOU FORGOT HE WAS FIRST.

HE WAS THE FIRST SO IT'S LATE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL? THIS COMMITTEE? WE HOPE NOT. SEE NONE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 553. SURE. THERE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.