Oct 28, 2024 Finance, Administration, and Economic Development Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER. TODAY IS MONDAY OCTOBER EIGHT, 2024 TIME IS 3:00. WE DO HAVE QUORUM OF OUR COMMITTEE.

SEVERAL COULD PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE WHICH SUSTAIN ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED,

[3. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT]

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - September 23, 2024]

AND LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO APPROVAL THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2024 AND I HAVE SOME WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE PLEASE I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

THANK MISS TABACHNICK IS THERE A SECOND PLEASE. I'LL TAKE GET THE MOTION I THINK MISS HOWARD AND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION I SEE NO DISCUSSION WILL PROVE THOSE

[6. CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD]

A SPEAKER'S TIME TO ANOTHER IS NOT ALLOWED. BUT OF COURSE MR. TERRELL, I DIDN'T ANY OF THAT FROM YOU HOWEVER JUST BRING THE RULES SO ABSOLUTELY 3 MINUTES IS YOURS.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

MY NAME IS WOOTEN RALPH AND FATHER OF SALMON ISLAND. I'M SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO NUMBER 11 ON ONEIDA COUNTY MINUTES AND THAT IS THE BUILDING OF THE WESLEY FELIX COMMUNITY CENTER.

MY CONCERNS ARE SIMPLE ON SAY HELENA ISLAND. WE HAVE A HEALTH CENTER IN THE JASPER COMPREHENSIVE CENTER THAT IS LARGELY UNDERFUNDED, UNDERUTILIZED AND IT SITS IN THE WOODS. THERE'S A PROPOSAL NOW TO BUILD AN ADDITIONAL HEALTH CENTER 4 MINUTES AWAY IN WESLEY FELIX FOR $1.3 MILLION IT SEEMS TO ME AS A GROSS MISUSE OF FUNDS TO BUILD ANOTHER HEALTH CENTER IN THE WOODS WHEN THE CITIZENS OF SAINT HELENA ONE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES OR THE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET THE FIRST HEALTH CENTER.

WHEN I WENT TO SAN FRANCISCO CENTER TALKED TO THE NUNS AND A LOT PEOPLE WHO PICK UP FREE FOOD THERE THEIR ISSUES ALWAYS TRAVEL AND TRANSPORTATION. YOU GOT $1.3 MILLION AND YOU HAVE ONE HEALTH CENTER THAT'S SITTING THERE UNDER, UTILIZED, UNDERFUNDED.

WHY NOT TAKE THAT MONEY TO PUT TO THE HEALTH CENTER THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING AND USE THOSE FUNDS TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE ON SAY HELENA WHICH IS TRANSPORTATION TO THE CENTER AND HAVING PROPER AND ADEQUATE SERVICES ONCE THEY GET THERE.

SO I'M CONFUSED ABOUT WHY THE ALLOCATIONS OF ANOTHER HEALTH CENTER IN THE WOODS AND WHAT KIND OF RESEARCH WAS DONE TO ASCERTAIN WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS. DON'T SAY HOW WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS IT USING THESE FUNDS AND I'M KIND OF CONFUSED AND WHY THEY CAME UP WITH ANOTHER HEALTH CENTER UNDERFUNDED UNDERUTILIZED IN THE WOODS THANK YOU MR. TRUMP. ALL RIGHT, SARAH, AS ANYONE ELSE THAT WE HAVE THAT WOULD

[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT]

AND LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA AND ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT MR. HANK MUNSON SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND JOHN ROBINSON ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OUR HANK IS LOOKING OVER HERE ALONG WITH YOU MAKE AN ALL ROUND ENTRANCE WITH GOOD AFTERNOON I WAS I'M JUST HERE TO GIVE AN UPDATE FROM WE SPOKE ABOUT LAST MONTH AND ARPA HOW MUCH MONEY WAS LEFT OVER FOR ALLOCATION HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT I TOOK OUT ALL OF THE LONG I CAN SEND IT TO YOU AGAIN OF WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT AND OBLIGATED I WONDERED IF REALLY FIXATE ON THE VARIABLES THAT WE LOOKED AT LAST TIME SO IF WE COULD GO TO OH HOW ABOUT THAT NICE. THIS IS JUST THE BASICS.

WE KNOW THAT THIS MUCH MONEY WE RECEIVED AT THE END OF 2021 AND RECEIVED IT IN 2022 THESE ARE THE DATES ONE OF THEM IS VERY LOOMING. THAT'S DECEMBER 31, 2024.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. AND LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT WHAT WAS REMAINING.

SO THESE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT RELOCATION THAT HAS ALREADY GONE TO COMMITTEE THAT IS NOW AT COUNCIL ACTUALLY THIS EVENING THE COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE AT A COMMITTEE TODAY AND

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WE HAVE A PRIVATE MEETING THIS THURSDAY. WE'LL HAVE THAT PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL PROBABLY IN THE DECEMBER MEETING HOPE WE'RE TRYING FOR NOVEMBER.

IT WAS PROBABLY GOING TO BE DECEMBER AND ONE THAT DID NOT HAPPEN IS THE NATIONAL PARK SIGNAGE PROGRAM. WE IT ALL READY AND AGREEMENTS IN PLACE AND THE GROUP SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION SO I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND OF WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THAT FUNDING ON MY NEXT SLIDE AND THE LAST ONE IT SAYS CONTRACT COVERAGE BUT THAT COVERS STAFF REPORTING ETC. FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS TWO PLUS YEARS THESE ARE THE VARIABLES WE'RE WAITING ON . SO WHAT HAPPENS TOMORROW MEAN? WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE 3 MILLION FOR THE HEALTH IS COMING TO COUNCIL TONIGHT THE 3 MILLION FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTERS IS COMING TO COMMITTEE TODAY.

THE VARIABLES ARE HERE AND SO WE HAVE CONFIDENCE WE'VE GOTTEN GOOD INTEREST FROM MULTIPLE COMMUNICATION COMPANIES ABOUT THE BROADBAND INITIATIVE GRANT THAT WE SHOULD BE WE'VE GOTTEN MANY QUESTIONS WHICH SHOWS GOOD INTEREST AND WE WERE LOOKING GREAT RESPONSES WHEN THEY COME IN BUT THAT NATIONAL PARK SIGNAGE PROGRAM IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY THE SHERIFF FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVE THAT WE CAN BRING BACK APPROVAL TO HAS TO DO WITH CAMERAS AND I CAN REFER TO THE LICENSE PLATE CAMERAS IS WHAT THE SHERIFF HAS APPROACHED US FOR THAT COULD BE USED TO IDENTIFY VEHICLES AND INDIVIDUALS SO WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK FOR THE OFFICIAL APPROVAL.

BUT THAT'S GOOD USE. THERE WOULD BE A SPLIT FUNDED WITH THE SHERIFF POTENTIALLY AND THERE ARE OTHER USES BUT WHAT I THINK I SHOULD DO ONE MORE OF THESE UPDATES IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING REPORT ON THESE LAST FEW STRAGGLERS BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT'S WHERE WE TODAY ARE ANY QUESTIONS OF RANK YOU'LL SEND US THIS WAY UP THERE CAN ANY OF THE FUNDING BE USED TO REPAIR SOME OF OUR LAUNCHES? NOT BY THE RULES.

BUT MY POINT IS THERE ARE JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT I'LL REPORT ON IN THE NEXT MONTH'S MEETING THERE IS A CATEGORY THAT'S CALLED REVENUE REPLACEMENT AND IT'S BASICALLY LIKE A STANDARD DEDUCTION, RIGHT. SO YOU $37 MILLION AND GOVERNMENTS COULD GO THROUGH THIS EXHAUSTIVE PROCESS TO SHOW HOW MUCH REVENUE THEY LOST OR TAKE A $10 MILLION STANDARD DEDUCTION AND THAT COULD BE USED FOR REGULAR OPERATIONS. WE HAVE USED A LOT OF THAT BUT THAT'S ON MY REPORT. THAT'S WHERE I THINK THERE IF THERE COULD BUT IT'S NOT ANYTHING MONEY WISE TO REALLY MAKE THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS TO OF THE I MEAN SOME REPAIRS ARE ONE THING BUT WHEN WE CREATE FOR EXAMPLE IS A BIG UNDERTAKING JUST AS ONE EXAMPLE THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING. WE APPRECIATE IT.

RON ALL YOU CAN DO IS GET REALLY QUICK IS GOOD AFTERNOON SO WE'RE GOING TO START THIS IS THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT UPDATE SO YOU SEE OUR FINANCE TEAM IS HERE AS WELL.

WE'RE GOING TO START VALERIE ALLERTON, OUR BUDGET MANAGER IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK BRIEF ON OUR BUDGET TRANSFERS THEN DAVE IS IN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOM.

IT'S GOING TO UPDATE YOU QUICKLY ON SOME PROCUREMENT ACTIVITY FOR THE FOR THE PAST MONTH THOSE THAT ARE GOING ON AND I'M GOING TO FINISH UP WITH A REVIEW OF THE GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE WE'LL TAKE A SHALLOW DOVE INTO THAT POOL. WELL, IT'S ALSO WELCOME TODAY.

HELLO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. SO IN YOUR PACKET YOU GOT THE BUDGET TRANSFER RECAP LIST. IT'S VERY SMALL AND HARD TO READ BUT IN THIS BETWEEN THE LAST MEETING AND THIS MEETING HAD A BUDGET TRANSFER FROM SOLID WASTE FROM PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR $70. THEN WE HAD ONE FROM THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT FROM CAPITAL EQUIPMENT TO MISCELLANEOUS EXPENDITURE $413,000.

WE HAD ONE FROM STORMWATER FROM CAPITAL EQUIPMENT TWO VEHICLES FOR $400,000 WE HAD ONE FROM PUBLIC WORKS FROM NON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THE LAND ACQUISITION FOR $10,000 AND WE HAD ANOTHER ONE FROM THE AIRPORT FOR FOR REPAIRS BUILDING TO VEHICLE MAINTENANCE SERVICES FOR $3,000 THEN ENGINEERING PART ONE THREE FOR PROFESSION FROM PROFESSIONAL SERVICES DUES AND SUBSCRIPTIONS 4000 THIS YEAR OFFICE FROM THEIR SPECIAL REVENUE FUND FROM THE DRUG SEIZURE PROJECT CODE FROM PURCHASES TO TRUST FUNDS DISBURSED FOR $15,000 AND

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THAT'S WHAT CAME THROUGH ON THE BUDGET TRANSFER FORMS. I CAN TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. IF NOT I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO OTHER FOLKS ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS ALTHOFF. WELL YOU'LL PROBABLY TO DEFER TO MR. RUMBOLD JUST FOR THE PUBLIC WE HAVE MISCELLANEOUS EXPENDITURE $113,000 TO COVER AN UNSCHEDULED FAA INSPECTION RELATED PENALTY. SO COULD WE PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.

MR. RUMBOLD I DON'T THINK VALERIE WANTS TO DO THAT ONE. I COULD BE GIVEN A SWING BUT WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT AND THANK THIS IS AGAIN ENTERPRISE FUNDS SO NO, THIS IS ALL AIRPORT REVENUE THAT'S BEING MOVED NOT TAXPAYER FUNDS JUST. WHAT I SAID UPFRONT BACK IN THE SUMMER OF 2022 WE HAD OUR ANNUAL FAA INSPECTION AND THAT YEAR THERE WAS A BIT OF A CHANGE IN THE FAA FOCUS ON THEIR INSPECTIONS BUT A COUPLE OF THE ITEMS THAT THAT WE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT INSPECTION THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AS DISCREPANCIES WERE SOME OF THE TRAINING RECORDS IN THE WAY TRAINING RECORDS WERE MAINTAINED THE AIRPORT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY KEPT A PAPER ON ALL OF THE FOLKS WHO HAD TO HAVE ANNUAL TRAINING AND AND ACTUALLY A FEW YEARS BEFORE THIS INSPECTION THEY HAD ACTUALLY BEEN HIGHLIGHTED AS A AS A MODEL WAY TO KEEP THE RECORDS AND. THEN A FEW YEARS LATER WE GOT HIT AS A DISCREPANCY THE FAA INSPECTORS. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS FOUND AS DISCREPANCY AND WHAT WE DID TO FIX THAT WAS STARTED A ELECTRONIC TRACKING SYSTEM THAT WE DEAL WITH INTERNALLY. BUT WE ALSO PURCHASED SOFTWARE THAT ENABLED US TO KEEP UP WITH THE THE DAILY INSPECTIONS TO GENERATE WORK ORDERS AND THAT SORT OF THING AND THEN ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE REPORTED ARE MAINTAINED ELECTRONICALLY. SO WE A RECORD KEEPING SYSTEM SO WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT AND THEN WE ALSO FOUND AND THIS IS VERY INSTRUCTIVE TO US BUT IT WAS STILL A DISCREPANCY THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY WRITTEN OUR OWN MANUAL TO RESTRICTIVE WE AND IT SOUNDS SILLY BUT IT CAN HAPPEN SO WE HAD A HISTORIC VERSION OF WHAT'S CALLED THE AIRPORT CERTIFICATION MANUAL THAT'S BASICALLY OUR VERSION OF THE FAA WAS YOU KNOW, LAWS FOR THE AIRPORT AND EACH AIRPORT HAS OWN LOCAL VERSION OF THAT BECAUSE THE OVERALL IT'S CALLED PART 139 CAN'T APPLY TO EVERY AIRPORT. THE WAY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT.

SO OUR LOCAL CODE WAS ACTUALLY MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND WE HAD A COUPLE OF AREAS WITHIN CODE WHERE WE ACTUALLY WHILE WE STILL COMPLETED TRAINING WE DIDN'T DO IT EXACTLY AS WE SAID WE DO AND AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS OUR AIRCRAFT RESCUE FIREFIGHTING FOLKS HAVE TO GO AT LEAST ONE TIME OF YEAR TO HAVE LIVE FIRE BURNING TRAINING DIFFERENT DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF FIREFIGHTER TRAINING AND THAT TRAINING WAS ACCOMPLISHED.

HOWEVER, IT WASN'T ALWAYS ACCOMPLISHED AT PLACE THAT WE HAD SAID IT WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED AT SO IT WAS ALL DONE. NO TRAINING WAS SACRIFICED BUT WE DIDN'T FOLLOW THE LETTER OF OUR LAW SO OUR LANGUAGE HAS NOW BEEN REWRITTEN OVER TWO YEARS AGO AND WE'VE EXPANDED OUR OPTIONS TO YOU KNOW, IF WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A PRODUCT TAKEOVER THERE WEREN'T SEATS AVAILABLE AT THE SOUTH CAROLINA FIRE ACADEMY SO WE COULDN'T GO THERE. SO WE USED OTHER TO GET THAT TRAINING DONE BUT IT WAS STILL MARKED AS A DISCREPANCY. WE HAD A COUPLE OF ITEMS LIKE THAT MOSTLY ADMINISTRATIVE BUT WE'VE CORRECTED OF THOSE IN THE RESULT OF OF ALL THE INVESTIGATION LITERALLY 18 MONTHS AFTER THAT INSPECTION WE FOUND OUT FROM THE FAA THAT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PURSUE THAT THAT PENALTIES WAS REDUCED AFTER MONTHS OF BACK AND FORTH AND TRADING IT WAS REDUCED BUT THAT'S WHERE THE FINAL NUMBER CAME TO BE. I GUESS I'M JUST SURPRISED THE FAA DIDN'T SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON FIXING IT GO FORTH IN THAT IT PUT A FINE YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE. THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALSO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE WITH. GOOD AFTERNOON MR. CHAIRMAN FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR COMING TO APOLOGIZE WE JUST HAD A LITTLE MISCOMMUNICATION I DIDN'T GET THIS REPORT FOR YOUR PACKETS IN TIME BUT YOU KNOW I REALLY WANT YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE BUT JUST GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON AND THE DEPARTMENT AS YOU CAN

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SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT AS FAR AS TRAINING FOR OUR MANUALS AND OUR SOFTWARE AS FAR AS SOLICITATIONS YOU CAN GO TO THE SOLICITATION REPORT YOU WERE SAYING ARE YOU PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO EXPAND AS? WE JUST GIVE YOU A BOTTOM LINE JUST A SUMMARY WE'VE GOT AROUND 27 SOLICITATIONS OUT ON THE STREET WHICH IS ADVERTISED ON OUR WEBSITE AND LOCAL PAPER AND SCHIAVO IF I GO DOWN LET ME LET ME MATCH THIS AS WELL. WE'VE BASICALLY GOT TWO AND DRAFTS WE'VE BEEN VERY BUSY AND THANK YOU AND THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR LET ME HIRE AND MR. MOORE AND JOHN ROBERTSON HIRED TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE BECAUSE WE'VE REALLY BEEN PUTTING OUT A LOT OF SOLICITATIONS WITH THE HELP OF ENGINEERING AND CAPITAL VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

BUT WE AS YOU SEE WE'VE GOT SEVEN ADVERTISED SEVEN WAITING EVALUATION FINALIZATION, FOUR THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED AND SIX THAT HAVE BEEN CANCELED. NOW YOU SAY SAY YOU MIGHT ASK ME WHY HAVE SIX BEEN CANCELED? WELL, A LOT OF THOSE WE FOUND OUT THAT WE COULD DO THEM CHEAPER IN HOUSE OR THE PROJECT JUST DIDN'T I WASN'T AWARE AT THE TIME BECAUSE WE DECIDED GOING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. SO WITH THAT SAID THAT'S JUST A REVIEW.

WE GOT OUT ON THE STREET AND YOU CAN GO ON ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC CAN GO ON OPEN GOV AND AT THESE AND THEY'LL SEE WHAT WE'VE ADVERTISED AND THE CURRENT STATUS.

NEXT THING I'D LIKE TO IS THAT TELLING US GOOD. YES SIR GOING BACK TO THAT LIST I'M IN THE SHOW SHOW POINT SHOW MAINTENANCE FOR STORM I'M NEXT RESTORE WAS THAT CANCELED BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS THAT MA'AM THE LAST ONE SO POINT MAINTENANCE SHOW CLEARING IS THAT CANCELED AND THAT SIDE OF THE DEPARTMENT IS SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT THAT TIME GOING TO BE REBID HOSPITAL TO BE OKAY LIKE IN THE LAST REPORT I WANT TO SHOW YOU IS THE PURCHASE ORDER REPORT IT'S HUGE THERE'S LIKE 465 PURCHASE ORDERS ON THERE I THINK MR. ROBINSON HAD KIND OF WENT THROUGH THAT REPORT BEFORE AND A LOT OF THESE ARE IT'S A LOT OF THE MOST OF THEM ALL THE PURCHASE ORDERS ARE DONE UNDER OUR CURRENT THRESHOLD AND NEW CODE REQUIREMENTS WHERE IT'S OVER $5,000 AND THIS REPORT ONLY PERTAINS EVERYTHING THAT'S OVER 5000. SO IT'S EITHER GOING TO HAVE A QUOTES ATTACHED TO THEM OR WE WILL HAVE A SOLICITATION ATTACHED TO THE DOCUMENT AND YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THIS IN THIS REPORT BUT I CAN PROVIDE YOU LATER ON AS GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS OR IF IT'S IN BLUE WE CAN CLICK ON I CAN ACTUALLY SHOW THE ACTUAL CONTRACT FILE BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS ON THE AUDIT THAT WE WENT THROUGH. WE DIDN'T WEREN'T ABLE TO SHOW THEM WHERE OUR DOCUMENTATION WAS KEPT. I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF PLACE TALK ABOUT BUT ALL THOSE PURCHASE ORDERS DONE WITH COMPETITION OR IF THEY WEREN'T DONE WITH COMPETITION IN A CORRECT NONCOMPETITIVE FORM WAS REVIEWED BY MYSELF, MY STAFF IT WAS OVER $50,000. IT WAS REMOVED REVIEWED BY MYSELF AND MY STAFF AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS LONG LAUNDRY LIST OF MINE LIKE THIS ONE? I'M ALWAYS A LITTLE SUSPICIOUS WHEN I SEE THE ORDER AMOUNT IS $49,999.99 ONE PENNY UNDER THE THRESHOLD. THAT'S CORRECT.

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IT'S JUST A FUNNY NUMBER IT IS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MR. THOMAS AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE A QUESTION NOT REGARDING RIGHT HERE BUT YOU'VE MENTIONED YOUR YOUR PUT IN FOR A NEW PEAK OR MANUAL. YES SIR, I MAY BE JUMPING THE GUN HERE BUT I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE TOO AFRAID TO USE THE PEAK OR INTERNAL PURCHASES SUCH AS SNACKS AND THINGS FOR STAFF. YES SIR. WHICH IS A LEGITIMATE PURCHASE.

BUT IS THAT PEAK OR MANUAL GOING TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE OLD PICTURE MANY ADDRESS THAT IS JUST SOME PEOPLE WEREN'T FOLLOWING THE PROCEDURES AND WE WORKED REALLY WELL WITH OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO MAKE SURE THAT HE REVIEWS PURCHASES FOR TO MAKE SURE IT IS THE RIGHT KIND OF FOOD PURCHASE FOR THE RIGHT KIND OF EVENT. SO THERE'S IT'S BEING VETTED PROPERLY. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. QUIGLEY? THAT INFORMATION WILL BE SENT TO US WHICH WHICH YOU SHARED A FEW MINUTES AGO. WE CAN YES, SIR. WE CAN SEND IT IN THERE, SEND YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE PACKET AND BE IN AS I GUESS BIWEEKLY REPORTS ARE THEY ALREADY THERE? OKAY GOOD QUESTION. OKAY.

I GUESS IT'S BEEN SENT TO US ALREADY. IS THAT MR. ROBINSON OKAY.

YEAH. NOW WE'LL GET IT. THANK YOU, MR. THOMAS SO THE TWO ARE THE TWO REPORTS IN A DIFFERENT VERSION. THANK YOU, MR. THOMAS AND OF THOSE YES SIR. YOU'RE THE SOLICITATION REPORT AND THE OVER $5,000 BOTH OF THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR BIWEEKLY REPORT THERE AT THE END OF THAT REPORT AS WELL AS SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'VE COVERED FOR YOU IS ALSO IN YOUR BIWEEKLY REPORT I THINK I SAW IT WENT OUT THIS MORNING. IT DID? YEAH.

SO IT'S THAT ALL RIGHT SO NOW I'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY IN IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS EVERY ONE OF OUR FINANCE COMMITTEES WE'VE HAD A FINANCE REPORT OR A FINANCE UPDATE FOR YOU THE I THINK WE DID IN JULY WE WENT THROUGH EACH ONE CHRISTINE CAME UP AND TALKED ABOUT EACH ONE OF THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AND NOT A LOT IS CHANGED OF THOSE FUNDS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS BUT WE'LL DO A FULL UPDATE OF ALL THOSE FUNDS NEXT MONTH BECAUSE IT WILL BE SOME CHANGE FOR YOU TO SEE. SO TODAY I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT ONE FUND IN PARTICULAR GENERAL FUND OUR GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE SO OUR GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE IS ESSENTIALLY A CUMULATION OF OPERATING BUDGET SURPLUS. THIS THIS SOMETIMES IS SURPLUS FROM OVER SEVERAL THAT'S CARRIED OVER AND IS MAINTAINED IN THIS SPECIFIC FUND AND THERE IS AN ALTERNATE AND SOME GIVE AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT RULE THAT GOES RIGHT ALONG WITH THAT . ALL RIGHT. SO AS PRESENT AS PRESENT OR AT THE OUT OF OUR BUDGET, OUR GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE WAS ABOUT THAT $76 MILLION NUMBER.

THE MINIMUM BALANCE ACCORDING TO OUR SHOULD BE 4646 MILLION 54.6 46.5 MILLION THERE'S A FEW THERE'S A FEW FINANCE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OR GIVE AWAY THEIR GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES GAAP THEY RECOMMEND NO LESS THAN TWO MONTHS OF REGULAR GENERAL FUND OPERATING REVENUE OR EXPENDITURES AS THE BEST PRACTICE FOR A GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE COUNTY ORDINANCE OUR CODE OF ORDINATES SECTION TWO WHICH IS FINANCE FOR OH THREE ESTABLISH IS THE GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE REQUIREMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN 2014 BY ORDINANCE 2014 ZERO SIX. SOME OF THE TENANTS OF THAT ORDINANCE THAT COUNTY MAINTAIN A MINIMUM OF 30% OF THE TOTAL GENERAL GENERAL FUND OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR. SO WE TAKE OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR 30% OF THAT NUMBER AND THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE TO MAINTAIN IN OUR GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE AS A MINIMUM. THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS IN IN THAT ORDINANCE AS WELL.

IT TALKS ABOUT HOW WE RESPOND TO AND PREPARE FOR EMERGENCY SPECIFICALLY BETWEEN THE MONTHS OF AUGUST TO OCTOBER AND HOW WE MAINTAIN A LITTLE EXTRA FUND BALANCE IN THAT ACCOUNT JUST IN

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ANY QUESTIONS WHETHER OH AWESOME I DO. YES SIR.

YES. LAST I REMEMBER IT HAD TO BE OFF.

WE TALKED ABOUT A RANGE FOR OUR FUND BALANCE BEING AT MINIMUM OF 70% AND UP TO 30 OR 35%.

BUT WHAT YOU IN THAT OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRED WAS TO HAVE A 30% FUND BALANCE.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THAT THAT IS THAT ORDINANCE THAT THAT I MENTIONED IT'LL GO TOWARD WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT 76 NOW TO A TO OUR SO THE MINIMUM ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT FUND BALANCE MINIMUM SHOULD BE 46 THAT WOULD BE THE 30% 44 IS SO 46.5 MILLION IS 30% OF LAST YEAR'S EXPENDITURE AND. THAT'S THAT'S THE CODE THAT THAT'S WHAT SHOULD BE THAT'S WHAT IT REQUIRES. YES SIR.

THE MINIMUM THAT IT REQUIRES THE MINIMUM MAXIMUM I GOT YOU THAT'S RIGHT YEAH OF IN 46 IS A VERY HEALTHY FUND. YES SIR SO SO HEALTHY HEALTHY DEPENDS HEALTHY DEPENDS.

COUNTY ON THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE SPEND $13.8 MILLION PER MONTH ON OPERATING COSTS.

THE MONTHS OF JANUARY, JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER OF OUR COSTS ARE A LITTLE LOWER BETWEEN FIVE AND $8 MILLION PER MONTH BECAUSE ALL THESE CONTRACTS HAVE TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THE BUDGET AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THE BUDGET YEAR WE'LL SEE THOSE EXPENSES GO UP. SO FOR FOR A VIEW FOR A COUNTY 30% IS A IS A VERY REASONABLE NUMBER. IT EXCEEDS DFL A RECOMMENDATION OF TWO MONTHS A AT 4646 YES SIR. YEAH I GUESS I GOT YOUR POINT IN A YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF JUSTIFYING BUT MY IS THAT WHEN I LOOK AT 76 AND WE SPENT DOUGH LAST YEAR FROM OUR FUND OUT WE FUNDED SOME PROJECTS. YES SIR. ONE DOLLARS FROM LAST YEAR.

YES SIR. AND THAT'S 76 IS AN INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR'S FUND OUT.

YES SIR IT IS THE NEXT SLIDE I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT AN INCREASE AND WE'LL BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES TO USE SOME OF THE ACTS OF SOME FUND BALANCE.

AND MY ARGUMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT THINK OUR CITIZENS DESERVE LITTLE BREAK.

YES, SIR, TEXAS AND I'LL LEAVE IT LIKE THAT. YOU SIR AS WE GO FORWARD THERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF DEFERRED ACTIONS, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, SOME OF OUR BUILDINGS AND SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT AND SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO INCREASE MILLAGE TO MAINTAIN THOSE THINGS. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT ON TARGET AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DISCUSS OUR GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE AND WE HAVE A PRACTICE OF MANAGING THAT FUND BALANCE TO A REASONABLE PLACE AND MAYBE I'LL ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I SEE THAT YOU HAVE SOME MORE AS WE CONTINUE.

I'VE SEEN LAST YEAR I'LL SAY IT AGAIN YES SIR. LAST YEAR.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT LAST YEAR'S FUND BALANCE. WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION LAST YEAR AND I BELIEVE YOU ASKED THE SAME QUESTION THEN AND LAST YEAR OUR FUND BALANCE AT 62 MILLION WE ENDED THE FISCAL YEAR 61.3 MILLION. SO THAT'S 61.3 MILLION.

THEN THE REQUIRED BALANCE OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S EXPENDITURE WAS 32 MILLION SO WE HAD $61 MILLION FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF F Y 23 THAT BECAME THE BEGINNING BALANCE OF F Y 24 AND YOU SEE THE CLOSE OUT OF F Y 24 WE WE INCREASED THE FUND BALANCE BY $14.8 MILLION IN FROM 2024 INTO 2025 AND THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED THIS FISCAL YEAR WITH $76 MILLION. SO WHERE ARE THE $14 MILLION COME FROM? THAT'S THAT'S THE QUESTION I'D LIKE TO ANSWER SOME EXAMPLES OF WHERE WE SAVED MONEY.

SO THIS IS SOME FRUGAL SOME FRUGAL OPERATIONS THAT HAPPENED DURING 2024.

IF YOU REMEMBER BACK THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS ON IN 2024 AND WE WERE PAYING ATTENTION TO EVERY SINGLE AND EVERY CONTRACT THAT THAT COUNTY AWARDED SOME SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS AND I JUST PUT THE HIGHLIGHTS THERE SO SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS WAS WITH OUR INSURANCE COUNTY

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I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. OH, BUSY. I KNOW.

AND OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING BACK IN JANUARY HAD TALKED ABOUT RETIREE BENEFITS AT ONE POINT WE DID LOOK LIKE AT SOME OF THE INSURANCE WHICH IS WHY I THINK IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO ASK ABOUT THAT. I MEAN WELL WHERE DID I PUT INSURANCE? THERE IT WAS IT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE ON THE NEXT SLIDE WE HAVE CONTINUED TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT. WE WORKED ALONG WITH OUR PROVIDER THROUGH H.R. TO SEE WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE. IT'S VERY COMPLEX.

YOU KNOW THERE'S A HISTORY WHEN WHEN IT COMES TO TWO THAT THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR AN EMPLOYEE FUNDED TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN OFF THE GROUND WITH THAT MUCH OKAY BUT THIS THIS IS THAT INSURANCE WHERE WHERE IT WENT NOW BUT THAT INSURANCE IS OUR OUR COUNTY FUNDED SELF-INSURED INSURANCE SO WE DID WE HAD A GOOD YEAR WE HAD A VERY GOOD YEAR IT'S GOOD AWESOME JOHN YES WOULD BACK UP TO THE SLIDE WHERE YOU WERE SHOWING THE SAVINGS. YES SIR.

YEAH YEAH. SO YEAH YOU TALK ABOUT THE PAYROLL CONTINGENCY AND HOW WE YES SIR. IN THAT CATEGORY OF THE VACANT POSITIONS ARE WE STILL OPERATING WITH THOSE POSITIONS VACANT OR DO WE HAVE ANY INTENTIONS OF FILLING? YES. ARE WE SO THIS THIS ONE IS A DIFFICULT ONE TO SAY SAVINGS BECAUSE THE INTENT IS TO FILL THOSE THE PAYROLL CONTINGENCY ACCOUNTS FOR IF WE WERE TO FILL 100% OF THE VACANCIES THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FUND THOSE POSITIONS.

SO THESE ARE THE THEY REPRESENT UNFILLED POSITIONS FOR THE FOUR COUNTY SO WE WE DID A NUMBER I DON'T HAVE THE THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE HIRED LAST OR THOSE VACANCIES WITH ME BUT I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU FOR OKAY AGAIN WE ARE OPERATING THE SAME AND SIMILAR IN PAYROLL CONTINGENCIES THIS YEAR OUR NUMBER INCREASED BECAUSE OUR SALARIES AND COST OF LIVING AND INCREASE THIS YEAR OUR PAYROLL CONTINGENCY I THINK IS 4.5 MILLION THAT WE HAVE FOR FOR THOSE POSITIONS. HOPEFULLY WE WILL FILL SOME OF THOSE AND USE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS AS THEY WERE DESIGNED AND AND HONESTLY AT THE END OF THE YEAR WILL LIKELY HAVE SOME

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OH YOU'RE WELCOME. ON THIS LAST IS JUST A CHART PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OVER TIME FROM 2019 TO 2024. THE INFORMATION CAN CAN GO BACK AS FAR AS I CAN DIG IN IN MUNIS BUT YOU'LL SEE THE BOTTOM LINE IS OUR EXPENDITURES.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURE IN THE BOTTOM LINE FOR 2019 THE FUND BALANCE IN RED AND THE 30% REQUIRED OF FUND BALANCE IS THAT SO FOR EACH OF THE PREVIOUS YEARS YOU'LL SEE THAT WE WE HAVE HAD AN EXCESS AND FUND BALANCE A SMALL EXCESS AND FUND BALANCE OVER WHAT IS REQUIRED AND YOU'LL SEE THE THE SEPARATION IN THIS YEAR IS BECAUSE WE UNDERSPENT LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR THIS YEAR'S 30% IS BASED ON LAST YEAR SO IT LOOKS LIKE A GAP THAT YOU SEE JUST THE WAY THE NUMBERS COME OUT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE.

SO LIKE I SAID I WANTED TO TAKE A SHALLOW DOVE INTO INTO THAT TOPIC IT IS FUND BALANCE IS CAN BE KIND OF COMPLICATED BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF OUR POSITION OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE SO AS OF THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET YEAR WAS THAT $76 MILLION NUMBER AND THERE WILL BE SOME OPPORTUNITY THAT WILL COME FORWARD PRESENTED TO YOU EITHER COMMITTEE OR OTHER COMMITTEES FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR USE OF THOSE FUNDS.

MR. BARTHOLOMEW YOU MENTIONED SOME FUNDING FOR OUR BOAT RAMPS AND BOAT LANDINGS.

WE HAVE A IN TAX DOLLARS THIS YEAR THAT FOR COUNTY FUNDED PROJECTS THAT BOAT RAMPS AND BEACH RENOURISHMENT THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT THEY IN EACH TAX DOLLARS SO WE HAVE SOME FUNDS FOR THAT AND HOPEFULLY BEFORE NEXT MONTH BRYSON WHO IS NOT ONLY OUR STATE EIGHT TAX BUT ALSO OUR LOCAL ATX I KNOW CHIEF WRANGLER OH YET SHE HELPS MANAGE PROGRAM FOR US SO HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FOR THE NEXT FINANCE COMMITTEE WE'LL BRING FORWARD A LIST OF THOSE AND AGE TAX QUALIFIED PROJECTS TO TALK WITH COMMITTEE ABOUT AND HELP THOSE PROJECTS AS WE COME FORWARD CAPTURING THOSE THAT FROM THE PAST AS WELL WE'LL BRING THOSE FORWARD AND PRIORITIZE PROJECTS AND SEE THE BEST WAY TO OF USE OF THOSE DOLLARS. I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL. THE QUESTIONS YOU SAID THE FEES AND LICENSE FEES WERE HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS. YES, MA'AM ANY ANY KNOWLEDGE OF WHY WELL NOT PARTICULARLY. BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IS A SIGN OF A HEALTHIER ECONOMY AS BUSINESS LICENSES AND PERMITS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WHEN WHEN WE SEE AN INCREASE THAT I THINK THAT IS A REFLECTION OF A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT NEW BUSINESSES OR SOMETIMES A BUSINESS IS BASED ON THE PROJECTION OF PROFIT FOR A COMPANY.

SO IF THEY'RE SEEING MORE PROFIT WE'RE SEEING BUSINESS LICENSE EITHER THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES INCREASE OR THE PROFIT MARGIN OF THE BUSINESSES INCREASE.

SO I THINK THAT'S AN INDICATOR OF A HEALTHY ECONOMY FOR COUNTY.

GOOD. LET ME JUST ADD TO WHAT MR. GLOVER WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH FUND BALANCE. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE HAVE NO EMERGENCIES HURRICANES WE LOOK AT OUR FUND BALANCE, THINK OH WE HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU IF WE HAD A HURRICANE, IF WE HAD A MICHAEL HAMILTON, A MATTHEW HELENE OR GOD FORBID A HUGO OR A KATRINA ,WE WOULD NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND WOULD BE LOOKED AT LIKE WHY DIDN'T YOU HAVE MORE SO IS A IT IS A SLIPPERY FOR US AND THAT FUND BALANCES IS VITAL IF THERE IS A EMERGENCY.

HOWEVER YOU KNOW WE ALSO LOOK AT IT AS WHY AREN'T WE USING THAT MONEY THEN FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS? SO YES SIR YOU'RE 100% RIGHT. HURRICANE MATTHEW COUNTY INITIALLY SPENT OVER $20 MILLION JUST FOR RECOVERY AND. MUCH OF THAT WAS REIMBURSED LATER BY FEMA. BUT WE WE COVER THAT BILL UPFRONT AND IT CAME OUT TO FUND THOSE. YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

THAT'S COUNTY. WE'RE IN IN A UNIQUE POSITION THAT WE HAVE WE DO HAVE A HEALTHY ECONOMY AND WE CAN RETAIN SOME OF THOSE FUNDS THAT WAS WAS NOT THAT HIGH THEN.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S MOVE ON. WE NEED TO BE FINISHED BY 5:00 SHARP FOR OUR COUNCIL MEETING SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUSH ANYTHING BUT WE JUST NEED TO KEEP MOVING HERE. LET'S GO TO OUR AGENDA ITEMS AND THEN NUMBER EIGHT RECORD

[8. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING FUNDS FROM THE STATE ATAX FUNDS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE STATE A-TAX COMMITTEE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAWS - Johnathan Sullivan, Chairman A-Tax Committee (State 2%)]

YOU DO. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT.

I DO HAVE A COPY. OH SURE. IT'D BE GREAT.

COULD YOU INTRODUCE ANY OF YOUR MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE REVOLUTION THE SECOND SORT OF TIME FOR DISCUSSION YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TERMS BUT SO YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION OR MOTION MOTION FOR APPROVAL BEFORE YOU THAT PUTS IT ON THE FLOOR AND YOU CAN DISCUSS IT IN PERSON. YEAH I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

OKAY. THANK YOU MR. ABBOTT. THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION WITH THAT? SO LET'S GO AHEAD. WE'RE GOING HERE. THAT'S GREAT.

WELL, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS.

POINTING THAT OUT MR. STEWART'S BEHIND ME. HE'S BEEN ON A TAX COMMITTEE OH FOUR PLUS YEARS AND YOUR APPRAISER YOU MIGHT KNOW HER AS AUNT APPARENTLY SUE.

SHE'S ALSO BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX YEARS.

I KNOW SEVEN SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS. SO TO TO GRADE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEE BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT CHRISTINE WEBB WHO IS DYNAMITE AND CERTAINLY BRYSON CAMPBELL WHO I KNOW WEARS MANY HATS ON THE FINANCE TEAM BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS PROCESS WOULD BE AS CLEAN AND RUN AS WELL AS AS IT HAS THIS YEAR WITHOUT BRYCE AND SHE IS AN ABSOLUTE ROCK STAR SO IF COMES UP HERE AND SAYS WE'RE PUTTING HER IN A DIFFERENT ROLE THAT'S FINE. BUT SHE TO HAVE A DOTTED LINE TO THIS PROCESS EVEN IF YOU GOT TO PAY HER YOU KNOW SOMETHING ELSE JUST I KNOW WE PRESENTED TO FINANCE COMMITTEE A FEW MONTHS BACK ON SOME CHANGES WE'RE MAKING.

THE APPLICATION'S GONE VIRTUAL THIS YEAR SO IT ACTUALLY MATCHES THE LOCAL H&R TAX THAT MR. ROBINSON WAS JUST SPEAKING ABOUT. SO THIS IS AGAIN THE STATE TAX . NOW THOSE PROCESSES ARE VERY SIMILAR IN TERMS OF THE APPLICATION AND WE REALLY FOCUSED HEAVILY ON THE THE BUDGETS THAT WE WANT TO SEE THE ORGANIZATIONAL BUDGET AND THEN WE WANTED TO SEE A SPECIFIC OF THE REVENUES AND EXPENSES OF THE EVENT OR WHATEVER THEY'RE PROPOSING IS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS TOURISM GENERATION AS A STATE REQUIRES WE AGAIN FOCUS HEAVILY ON THREE THINGS.

ONE OF THE SECOND ONE OF THOSE WAS HOW DO YOU TRACK TOURISM? HOW MANY TOURISTS DO YOU ANTICIPATE CREATING IF IT'S A NEW HISTORICALLY, HOW HAS THAT WORKED OUT? IF YOU'VE ASKED FOR FUNDS BEFORE, THIS IS AN ONGOING ACTIVITY OR EVENT.

AND LASTLY, IF YOU HAVE A MARKETING PLAN YOU'RE ASKING FOR MARKETING FUNDS.

WE ALSO WANTED A DETAILED OF HOW THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE SPENT AND SO WE REALLY FOCUSED HEAVILY ON THOSE THOSE PARTS OF THE APPLICATION AS WE BROUGHT APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR SO WE CAN GET SPECIFIC INFORMATION. SO WHEN I GOT TO STAND BEFORE YOU THIS YEAR I CAN GIVE YOU REALLY GREAT DETAIL ON HOW THAT SHOOK OUT AS AS IT GOES HAD A COUPLE OF HICCUPS IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS WHILE THERE WAS REQUIRED WORKSHOP THAT WAS PROBABLY THE GREATEST CHANGE THIS YEAR FOR THE APPLICANTS. EVERYBODY THAT APPLIED TO COME TO THE WORKSHOP WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE APPLICANT WHO ENDED UP GOING TO THE CITY OF BEAUFORT THEIR APPLICATION WAS INTENDED FOR THEM AND JUST GOT THROUGH OUR PROCESS BUT THEY WILL ACTUALLY PROBABLY COME BACK IN THE FUTURE TO THE COUNTY REQUEST AS WELL.

THE OTHER CHANGE YOU SEE THAT AGAIN FOR FOR THE WORKSHOP. SO THIS YEAR WE HAD THE WORKSHOP AND IF YOU WERE GOING APPLY FOR COUNTY TAX FOR THE STATE TAX WE ASKED ALL APPLICANTS TO COME TO THE WORKSHOP THAT WE COULD GO OVER HOW THE BUDGET WOULD WORK YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEEDED SO WE DIDN'T WHAT WE OFTEN GET THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THE THE REAL REASON FOR THE WORKSHOP WAS WE WANTED EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE GOING TO APPLY THESE FUNDS HOW THE COMMITTEE LOOKS AT IT. WE DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE SOME YOU KNOW THE QUESTION OF WHAT'S YOUR SECRET SAUCE? HOW DO YOU LOOK AT THIS? IS IT A LOW TIME OF YEAR? HOW MANY CHAIRS DO YOU GENERATE IS IT A BUSY TIME OF YEAR? AND IF IT'S BUSY THEN WHY ARE WE GOING TO FUND IT IF IT'S ALREADY TOURIST HERE? SO I WANT TO STAND UP HERE AND OUR COMMITTEE WANTS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS GOING TO GET THE BEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND SO WE WANTED THE APPLICATION THE APPLICANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THAT RETURN, HOW DO WE MEASURE IT, HOW DO WE LOOK AT IT? SO THERE WASN'T ANY SECRET THERE'S NO CHANGING OF THE RULES OR HOW IT WORKS.

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YOU'LL SEE THAT REFLECTED IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND SO WE WE REALLY TRIED TO HOLD ON TO BE TRUE TO THE WORKSHOP WE'VE ASKED FOR SPECIFIC INFORMATION FROM FROM ALL THE APPLICANTS AND. IF WE DIDN'T GET IT THEN THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE PROVIDED AND I TRIED TO INCLUDE THAT INTO THE NARRATIVE AND I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T GET THAT.

I THINK GOT THE COPY OF THE DRAFT BUT I'VE ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE NARRATIVE SO THAT BEFORE WE MAKE IT FINALLY SO GOES INTO THE ACTUAL RECORD SO I CAN MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CHANGES OR MODIFICATION AS TO THE WAY I CAPTURED OUR OUR MEETING HERE IT I'M HAPPY TO READ THOSE COMMENTS TO YOU I'M SURE YOU FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT DIALOG BUT I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THEM ONE AT A TIME OR WHICHEVER WAY YOU SEE FIT. EVERYONE RECEIVED A PRINTED COPY OF DRAFT.

YEAH. OH PERFECT. OKAY.

I DON'T NEED YOU BUT I LIKE TO ASK THE QUESTION THAT I GET A CHANCE AT BEFORE I WILL SAY I HAVE A NUMBER HERE. SO THIS YEAR WE HAD $1.3 MILLION TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AGAINST AS OF THE 2% COLLECTION THE RECOMMENDATIONS IF YOU ADD IT ALL UP THE NET DIFFERENCE IS ABOUT 537,000 ALMOST 40 I'M SORRY ALMOST 538,000. WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING IS WE WANT HAVE A SECOND CYCLE THIS YEAR SO WE WOULD OPEN APPLICATIONS BACK UP GOING IN THROUGH DECEMBER AND THEN WE WOULD HEAR A SECOND CYCLE OF THESE FUNDS.

THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THROUGH FINANCE COMMITTEE SO THE FUNDS ARE THERE BUT SINCE WE HAVE SUCH A SURPLUS OF FUNDS AVAILABLE THEN WE CAN ALLOW APPLICANTS TO COME BACK AND MAKE A SECOND REQUEST FOR THEIR INTERACTIVITY AND THEN WE COULD HEAR THEM LIKELY IN JANUARY AND THEN WE COULD COME BACK TO YOU WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS PROBABLY IN FEBRUARY. I HAVE A QUESTION SO OPEN IT BACK UP AGAIN.

YES, MA'AM. NEW APPLICANTS COME IN AT THAT TIME.

ABSOLUTELY. AND SO OUR THOUGHT IS AGAIN THE WORKSHOP WAS CRITICAL SINCE THIS IS A SAME YEAR, SAME CYCLE CHANGED. IF YOU'VE ALREADY PARTICIPATED IN THE WORKSHOP YOU DON'T NEED TO COME AGAIN FOR THE CYCLE. BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T PARTICIPATED THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP DATE SO NEW APPLICANTS WHO HAVEN'T REQUESTED COULD COME IN TO THAT WORKSHOP AND THEN PUT AN APPLICATION IN.

WHEN WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE THAT WORKSHOP WE ARE LOOKING AT THE UH THE WEEK OF NOVEMBER 18TH THROUGH THE 22ND IS THE TENTATIVE DATE WE HAVE AND WHEN WITH THE APPLICATION START WELL WE WOULD GO AHEAD TECHNICALLY APPLICATIONS ONLINE NOW SO YOU COULD SUBMIT BUT SO IF YOU'VE ALREADY WENT TO A WORKSHOP YOU KNOW IT'S A FINANCE COMMITTEE IN SUPPORT OF THIS THAT TECHNICALLY THEY COULD SUBMIT APPLICATION TONIGHT RIGHT BUT IF THEY HAVEN'T PARTICIPATED THEY NEED TO COME TO THE WORKSHOP AND THEN THEY COULD SUBMIT AN APPLICATION AFTER THAT WORKSHOP DATE IN LATE NOVEMBER AS WITH HOW YOU FINISH .

YES. OH OKAY. I APPRECIATE QUICKLY SINCE SINCE THE NEW STARTED HOW OTHER THINGS GO IT WAS HONESTLY IT WAS GREAT I MEAN FROM AN APPLICATION PERSPECTIVE WE A GREAT MEETING THE COMMITTEE MET AND WE DID A FULL REVIEW ALL THE CHANGES THAT WE KNEW WE WOULD SEE AND REALLY I SHOULDN'T SAY CHANGES EXPECTATIONS THAT WE HAD FOR WE WANT TO SEE FROM APPLICANT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE BEST RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT A RETURN ON INVESTMENT REALLY LIKE ONE BIG CHANGE THAT WE'VE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE DO OUR AID TAX FUNDS COME FROM FROM UNINCORPORATED B FOR COUNTY AND SO A BIG SHIFT THIS YEAR IS WE LEARNED THAT ROUGHLY 8% COME FROM THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY. SO KNOWING THAT YOU SEE THE GROWTH AND COLLECTION FROM I WANT TO SAY SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS UP HERE SERVING THIS COMMITTEE WE WERE RIGHT AT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. NOW WE'RE AT 1.3.

SO OUR GOAL AS A COMMITTEE IS HOW DO WE REALLY GET A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR US IT'S A VERY GOOD MEASURE THAT THESE FUNDS WE PUT THEM BACK WHERE THE FUNDS COME FROM.

IT SEEMED LIKE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THAT THAT METHOD HELPED ME UNDERSTAND THE GREATER BEAUFORT PORT ROYAL CVB REQUESTING ONE FIGURE IN RECEIVING MUCH MORE OH GREAT YEAH. SO THE FIRST THE FIRST THEY HAD WAS AN APPLICATION FOR 195,000 GO TO MY LARGER PRINTED COPY. THEIR FIRST REQUEST WAS FOR 195,000 AND THEY ARE THE ONLY DEMO FOR B FOR COUNTY THAT APPLIED FOR FUNDS THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF COUNTY DID NOT APPLY ONE OTHER DMO DID APPLY BUT THE SCATTER REGION SO PEACH

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SO THIS HELPS OFFSET THAT. SO WE DIDN'T WANT AN ORGANIZATION WHO MIGHT HAVE A REALLY GOOD PLAN NOT BE ABLE TO AGAINST THAT IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MARKET.

SO WE THOUGHT THIS 75,000 COULD HELP THE CVB WORK THOSE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO MARKET THEIR EVENTS OR ACTIVITIES. OKAY THE OTHER QUESTION YOUR MID-CITY YOUTH SPORTS ASSOCIATION RED LINE AND THEN THE BLACK CHAMBER YOU RED LINE WHY IS THAT THE QUESTION? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. YES. SO YEAH SO THE BLACK CHAMBER SO THEY DID NOT ATTEND OUR WORKSHOP THEIR THEIR APPLICATION WAS MEANT FOR THE CITY OF BEAUFORT WHICH BRYSON COURT SHE ACTUALLY GOT THAT TO THE CITY OF BEAUFORT.

SO THEY'RE PRESENTING TO THE CITY BEFORE THIS WEEK HAVE THEIR ATX PRESENTATIONS SO THEY JUST SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION TO WRONG ATX POD HAD THEY HAVE COME TO OUR WORKSHOP AND YOU KNOW WE WOULD HAVE HEARD THEIR APPLICATION BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY DIDN'T ATTEND AND IT WAS INTENDED FOR A DIFFERENT ATX REQUEST THE INAUGURAL SMOKE THEY ACTUALLY DID NOT SHOW UP FOR APPLICATION DAY SO FOR THEIR PRESENTATION PORTION SO THEY THEY ALREADY REACHED OUT TO FINANCE TEAM AND WE'VE TOLD THEM WE'RE LIKELY GOING TO REOPEN UNTIL THEY'LL REAPPLY AND COME BACK FOR A SECOND ROUND OF FUNDING REQUEST.

SO THE BOTH GROUPS BE ABLE TO COME BACK IN NOVEMBER. THE LET ME ANSWER THAT QUESTION ANSWER IS YES MID CITY'S YOUTH DID COME TO THE WORKSHOP THEY COULD REAPPLY TECHNICALLY AGAIN WE ALREADY HAVE THEIR APPLICATION SO WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD.

THEY'VE ALREADY TOLD US THEY DO. THE BLACK CHAMBER WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE WORKSHOP SINCE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN YET AND THEN YES THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY. OKAY. YES SIR IN THE LAST QUESTION IS THE NOTICE GO OUT TO PARTICIPANTS OKAY. YES, GREAT QUESTION.

SO WHAT WHAT TEAM DOES IS EVERYONE WHO'S APPLIED I WANT TO SAY THEY WENT BACK THREE OR FOUR YEARS. THEY HAVE AN EMAIL DISTRIBUTION AND SO WE EMAILED ALL THE APPLICANTS AND WE ALSO PUT OUT A PUBLIC NOTICE. SO I THINK WE PUT IT IN THE ADMINISTRATORS WEEKLY NOTES AND I KNOW THAT WE ACTUALLY BOUGHT THE COUNTY BOUGHT ADS IN THE LOCAL PAPER TO PUT THAT OUT FOR PUBLIC NOTICE AND ONE OF THE VERY, VERY POPULAR ACTIVITY ON SEEING HELLO OVER IS THE PINSON A HERITAGE DAY CELEBRATION AND THEY DIDN'T THEY DID NOT APPLY AND THEY DIDN'T DO ONE OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS IS ON THE COMMITTEE IN FACT AND THEY WERE EQUALLY AS SURPRISED SO OKAY THEY MAY APPLY IN THE SECOND CYCLE OR THEY MAY ALSO MIGHT REACH OUT TO THE CVB PROVIDED THEY GET SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING SO THAT THAT THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT 75 ADDITIONAL $75,000 COULD BE SHOT.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, JIM. AND REAL QUICK, BRIAN, IF YOU CAN JUST START THINKING ABOUT WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS BACK UP AGAIN.

IT'S ALREADY COVERED BY MONEY. DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH OUR A AN AMENDMENT TO OUR OUR APPROVAL OF THIS TO OPEN THINGS BACK UP AGAIN AND GET MONEY AWAY AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S NOT HOW WE HAVE THINGS STATED. SO AGAIN THINK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW MATT BROWN HAS SOME SOME SOME QUESTIONS AND THEN LIKE I SAID, JUST LET US KNOW AT THE END HERE WHAT GOT TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COVERING ALL BASES ON THIS LOOK BRANT NUMBER 28 LOWCOUNTRY GOLF COURSE OWNERS

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THEY'RE PRIMARILY ARE YOU ARE THOUGH WE LOOK THEM UP ONLINE THAT FRIDAY THEY WERE NOT PROPERLY CLOSED THEN SO THAT'S INTERESTING AND IT'S THE ONE THAT ADVERTISES LOWCOUNTRY GOLF COURSE ON ASSOCIATION WEEK. WE LOOKED IT UP THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT YEAH YEAH WE LOOK WE ACTUALLY WENT ON THEIR WEBSITE LOOKED IT UP DURING DISCUSSION LOOK AT THIS OH I HAD A FINANCIAL OH ANYWAY THAT'S WHAT I SAW I'M SAYING ONLINE YOU CAN SEND A CHECK TO ME I CANNOT I DO NOT HAVE THAT AUTHORITY BUT I'LL CERTAINLY MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION JUST QUICK WHAT YOU JUST SAW THE BOOST YOUR FIRST ROUND OF FUNDING FOR THE APPLICANTS.

YES, SIR. THOSE WHO THEN WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THE FIRST ROUND THEY GET A CHANCE TO COME BACK AND APPLY THE SECOND ROUND. RIGHT.

UNLESS I MEAN TECHNICALLY ABSOLUTELY SO IF THEY COME BACK WITH EITHER ADDITIONAL EVENTS OR THEY LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE THEY COME BACK AND THEY SAID HEY WE DECIDED WE HAVE TOO MUCH INTEREST. WE WANT TO ADD A DAY AND WE WANT SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO ADD A DAY ON TO OUR OF INTERACTIVITY OR MAKE IT BIGGER.

SURE. I MEAN TECHNICALLY SURE. WHY NOT? ALL RIGHT. TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT THEN THOSE WHO WERE FUNDED IN THE FIRST ROUND, DO THEY GET A SECOND BITE OF THE APPLE IN THE SECOND ROUND ALSO? YOU MEAN IF THEY WERE NOT AWARDED IF THEY WERE AWARDED IN THIS FIRST ROUND, DO THEY GET TO COME BACK ON THE SECOND ROUND AND APPLY FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

SURE. WELL I MEAN THERE'S I MEAN WE HAVE SOME ORGANIZATION TO APPLY FOR MULTIPLE ACTIVITIES SO WE HAVE I MEAN IF IF YOU GO TO THE APPLICANT I MEAN THERE ARE SOME ORGANIZATIONS ON HERE WHO DO MULTIPLE ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

SO WHAT DID DO THIS YEAR HISTORICALLY ORGANIZATIONS DO MULTIPLE EVENTS AND THEY WOULD PUT ON ON ONE APPLICATION. SO WE ASKED SOME SPECIFIC TO BREAK IT OUT TO INDIVIDUAL APPLICATIONS. THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE FINANCIAL SUCCESS OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL EVENTS SO IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US AS A COMMITTEE TO A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. SO I JUST WANT TO COMMENT THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT ARE HERE AND THOSE THAT AREN'T THESE PEOPLE WERE HERE FROM 830 UNTIL 545.

I CERTAINLY TOOK 20 MINUTES FOR LUNCH. WE DID AND WE HAD A FEW BATHROOM BREAKS IN BETWEEN. YEAH YOU BET. THEY REALLY, REALLY WENT THROUGH WHAT WAS REQUIRED TO MEET THE AND MR. HULBERT WAS THERE TO MAKE WE YOU KNOW, ADHERE TO THE STATE CODE AND THEN ALL VOTED AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WRITTEN PART THAT WE PROVIDED YOU YOU'LL SEE AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY SOMETHING WAS FUNDED OR NOT FUNDED TO THE FULL EXTENT AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CHANGE IN HOW THEY GET MONEY THIS YEAR? OH YES. YEAH. AND ACTUALLY MR. LAWSON, YOU MENTIONED BRIAN AND I DON'T WANT TO SKIP OVER BRIAN. BRIAN WAS WITH US THE ENTIRE DAY AS WELL. HE WAS FANTASTIC. HE SAID COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN TAB'S COMMENTS I MEAN HE REALLY YOU KNOW, THERE'S TIMES WHERE YOU HAVE A BREAK AND SO HAVING BRIAN THERE WAS WAS REALLY IT WAS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL SO I DON'T WANT TO SKIP OVER HIM HE DOESN'T HOLD MY HAND THE WAY BRYSON DOES THE LAST WHAT WE DID IS COUNCIL SAID WE'LL DO 50% DISTRIBUTION UP FRONT AND THEN YOU SUBMIT YOUR RECEIPTS TO, SUPPORT THAT DISTRIBUTION AND THEN YOU CAN REQUEST THE ADDITIONAL 50% AS A REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM THAT WORKED INCREDIBLY WELL BECAUSE OUR STRUGGLE AS A COMMITTEE IS WE DON'T ALWAYS GET GREAT ON THE BACK END. WE GET SOMETIMES YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BACK OF A NAPKIN KIND OF REPORT THIS REALLY REQUIRED SOME SOME VERY REAL DATA TO BE PROVIDED AND SO THAT WAS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL FOR US. WE DID HAVE ONE ORGANIZATION SAID TO CHECK BACK TO THE COUNTY FOR $9,000 ROUGHLY BECAUSE THEIR EVENT ENDED UP BEING LESS TO PRODUCE THAN THEY HAD BUDGETED AND SO THEY WROTE THEIR CHECK BACK TO THE COUNTY FOR $9,000 AND SAID THEY DIDN'T NEED THE REMAINDER FUND BALANCE AND SO THIS REALLY CHANGED THE WAY THIS COMMITTEE CAN NOW FUNCTION BECAUSE NOW THERE'S SOME REAL TEETH AND THAT WE WANT YOU TO PROVE TO US THAT YOU USE THE FUNDS YOU SAID DO IT THE WAY YOU WOULD AND THAT IT ALSO GENERATED TOURISM IMPACT IN A HEALTHY WAY AND SO THAT THAT HAS BEEN A REALLY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE AND THAT'S BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK FOR THE FINANCE TEAM ON STAFF BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S CERTAINLY A BETTER WAY FOR THE COMMITTEE TO MANAGE THESE FUNDS AND MAKE BETTER RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU AND I'M SURE EVERYONE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO READ ALL THESE BUT IT GOES COUNCIL WILL RECOMMEND IT WE RECOMMEND AND THEN IT WILL BE FULL DISCUSSION THERE AS WELL. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS JONATHAN CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER MY GOOD QUESTIONS. MR. SOLOMON THANK YOU AND I

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YES. YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND I SO THANK YOU MUCH.

WELL WE HAD A FULL COMPLIMENT FOR YOUR COMMITTEE TOO SO WE'RE ABSOLUTELY AWESOME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. A GREAT JOB AND JUST AS MR. ROBINSON YOU RECALL WHEN WE ADOPTED THE AMENDMENT TO THE AND WE ALLOWED THEM TO HAVE THEIR REPORT AT LEAST ONE NUMBER MANY MEETINGS THAT THEY THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE OKAY NOT GOOD SO I'M WHAT ARE WE WE ARE THEN MOVING THIS TO COUNCIL WHAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED SO I HAVEN'T HAD A HAD A ONE WELL I THINK WE NEED TO FIND WHETHER THAT'S ACTUALLY TRUE OR NOT IT SHOULD BE BEFORE WE BECOME PRESUMPTIVE WHICH JUST I JUST LOOKED AT ME SO SO THE QUESTION IS BRIAN IF FOR SOME REASON THE LOWCOUNTRY GOLF COURSES ASSOCIATION HAS HAS GONE UNDER INFORMATION IT REALLY JUST LOOKED ONLINE THE RECORD ONLINE HE WAS HERE TALKING ABOUT ANY GOLF COURSES HE REPRESENTED HERE IS VERY ACTIVE PRESENTATION OKAY SO WE JUST NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT BEFORE OUR FIRST MAYBE THEY MEAN PERMANENTLY CLOSE THE OFFICE IS CLOSED ON CORPUS CHRISTI NOT ASSOCIATIONS. WE'VE GOT A FIRST READING WE'LL HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT AND THAT'S THE BEST I HAVE A FEELING IS THEIR OFFICE.

THEIR OFFICE IS CLOSE TO CORPUS CHRISTI, RIGHT? RIGHT.

YES. SO IF I COULD SINCE I'M UP HERE TO RECOMMEND I WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD AND THE REASON I SAY THAT AND I FEEL CONFIDENT SAYING IS WHAT BRYSON DOES IS SHE USES OUR NARRATIVE AS YOU MOVE THIS FORWARD TO MAKE IT PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND SHE WILL CHECK BEFORE SHE SHE MAKES DISTRIBUTION CUTS. SO THAT'S I THINK WHAT WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS SLOW THIS DOWN A LOT OF APPLICANTS ASKED ABOUT THE TIMING OF FUNDS AND HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THEIR AND THEIR EVENTS BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE PENDING SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO AND SO WE DO HAVE MOTION AND THE SECOND IS IF THERE IS NO MORE DISCUSSION, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE ANY MORE DISCUSSION SAYING NO DISCUSSION, WE WILL PASS THIS OBJECTION.

[9. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING BUDGET ORDINANCE 2024/25, TO REFLECT THE APPROVAL OF USE OF GENERAL FUND -FUND BALANCE FOR $3,200,000 FOR FLEET SERVICES VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, $4,303,000 FOR BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT HANGAR CONSTRUCTION, AND WAIVE $712,750.52 BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT PAYABLE LOAN TO THE GENERAL FUND (FISCAL IMPACT: If approved by Council, the finance department will amend Budget Ordinance 2024/25 to reflect the funding options selected by council) - John Robinson, Assistant County Administrator]

THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO NUMBER NINE AND THIS IS A RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING BUDGET ORDINANCE 2024 AND 2025 TO REFLECT THE APPROVAL USE OF GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE FOR $3,200,000 FOR FLEETS VEHICLE FLEET SERVICES, VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT PURCHASES AND THEN 4,303,000 FOR VIEW FOR EXECUTIVE AIRPORT HANGAR AND WAVE 712,007 OR $50.52 TO DEFER EXECUTIVE AIRPORT LOAN TO THE GENERAL FUND AND IF I COULD HAVE SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION I PROBABLY WANT TO ASK SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION TO WHAT'S THE CORRECT WORD BIFURCATE THIS MAKE IT INTO TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS ITEMS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO NOT HAVE IS ONE ONE MOTION FORWARD. MR. HULBERT LOOKS CONFUSED SO YOU WANT TO DO THIS AGENDA ITEM IN FULL WITH EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY? YES, SIR.

OKAY THEN I WOULD ASK THAT YOU HAVE A MOTION SECOND ON THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION AND THEN HAVE A MOTION TO BUY FOR KATE AFTER THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

SO YOU LOSE YOUR AMENDMENT, SEPARATE THEM OUT AND AS WE LOOK SO DO YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS AMENDMENT? SO IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

ALL RIGHT AND THEN NOW I WOULD ASK FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A AMENDMENT TO SEPARATE THEM.

YES. WHATEVER LANGUAGE ONE IF YOU SEPARATE THE ITEM THAT YOU WANT AND YOU GET THE OBJECT YOU DEAL WITH FRENCH ONE IS THIS ONE HERE TO SEPARATE OF PROJECT TO PROJECT ONE THAT WOULD BE I THINK THAT'S WE SHOULD MAKE CLEAR IF YOU WANT TO IT GOING FORTH TO CAMP WITH THE COUNCIL TO MAKE IT PERMANENT FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO SEPARATE THE UNIONS INCLUDING COME AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION AS SOMEONE WHO

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WELL WE STILL NEED TO YEAH OKAY I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO BIFURCATE I'D LIKE TO SPLIT IT OFF INTO TWO SO ONE WOULD BE THE USE OF GENERAL FUND BALANCE OF 3,200,000 FOR FLEET SERVICES VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT 90 99 YEAH THAT WE COULD CALL THAT NINE A THANK YOU MR. PROJECT ONE YES AND THE SECOND PROJECT WOULD BE $4,303,000 FOR VIEW FOR THE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT HANGAR CONSTRUCTION AND I STILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE WAVE TWO YOU WILL MAKE THE THREE IT COULD BE A THIRD ONE THIRD WAVE $712,750 BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT PAYABLE LOAN AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO UNDERTAKE PROJECT ONE AND TWO I RECOMMEND THAT DISCUSSION DURING THE DISCUSSION PROJECT TWO AND IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE YOU WOULD NOT APPROVE THAT PORTION TO AMEND THAT ASPECT. OKAY. SO WE SPLIT THE TO THE GENERAL FUND FLEET SERVICES AND THE BEAUFORT AIRPORT TO CLEAR IS IT FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES OR FOR GOING FOR I'M PUTTING IN FOURTH FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES. SO WE WILL DISCUSS EACH OF THE SEPARATE UNITS. YEAH THE EXECUTIVE. OKAY GOOD.

SO WE HAVE A SECOND OF A FIRST AND A SECOND A MORE DISCUSSION. LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS UP THEN APPROVED RIGHT. WE END WITH THAT THE BIFURCATING HAS NOW BEEN APPROVED SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR DISCUSSION WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS PROJECT 13. IN THE YEAH GOT THAT AND EVERYONE KEEP CLEAR YEAH I GOT IT. MR. OBAMA, THANK YOU FOR COMING UP AGAIN. YES, SIR. THANK THANK YOU.

SO WITH ME IS TOM DAVIS, OUR FLEET SERVICES MANAGER. I WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE REQUESTS. SO THIS ORDINANCE REQUESTS A AMENDMENT TO OUR BUDGET ORDINANCE APPROVING REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL OF $3.2 MILLION TO BE TRANSFERRED GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE TO THE FOR FLEET SERVICES THE PURPOSES OF PURCHASE AND VEHICLES.

SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE THE FINANCE PART OF THIS AND HOW WE GOT WHERE WE ARE AND IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT VEHICLES OR INTENDED USE OF THOSE FUNDS.

TODD IS HERE TO ANSWER THOSE BECAUSE HE KNOWS ABOUT OUR VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT AND TRUCKS AND CARS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND I'LL WITH YOU ABOUT THE NUMBERS.

SO ESSENTIALLY IN OUR 2024 BUDGET WE HAD FUNDING WHICH WAS $3 MILLION OR $3 MILLION WAS INSIDE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND THAT HAVE SUPPORTED THE PURCHASE OR LEASE OF VEHICLES.

THE FUNDING SOURCE INSIDE OF THE CAPITAL FUND WAS BOND REVENUE.

THIS WAS THE 2025 BOND REVENUE THAT IS GOING FORWARD TO COUNCIL AT SECOND READING.

SO ONCE WE BEGAN TO FIGURE OUT THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT WE DID NOT FEEL LIKE THIS WAS THE MOST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY TO PROCEED. WE REMOVED THAT FUNDING FROM THE ORIGINAL $90 MILLION BOND THAT CAME FORWARD. NOW YOU HAVE A $70 MILLION BOND COMING FORWARD AND WE NEED TO FIND THE PROPER FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE $3.2 MILLION REQUEST OF VEHICLES. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER USING THE FUND BALANCE TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE. SO WE CAME FORWARD WITH THREE OPTIONS ONE OF THOSE THE FIRST OPTION WHICH IS IN THE ORDINANCE NOW OF COURSE WE PUT IN THE ORDINANCE SO WE HAD SOMETHING COMING FORWARD BUT WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AMEND THAT ORDINANCE ACCORDING TO YOUR. SO OPTION ONE IS REQUESTING $3.2 MILLION FROM GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE FOR THE PURPOSE OF PURCHASE OF THE 36 VEHICLES REQUIRED. OPTION TWO IS A COMBINATION OF OF OPPORTUNITIES THESE IT REQUESTS $2.7 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO IT TO LEASE NINE SPECIALIZED VEHICLES IN THE COST OF THE SPECIALIZED VEHICLES IS ALMOST $500,000 PER YEAR.

WELL FOR THE FIRST YEAR I'M SORRY $498,000 IN AND THE PURCHASE OF THE BALANCE OF THE OF THE REST OF THE VEHICLES 27 VEHICLES. AND THE REASON THAT TODD CHOSE THOSE NINE SPECIALIZED VEHICLES IS BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKELY BE REPLACED WITHIN THAT FIVE YEAR DURING THAT FIVE YEAR LEASE PERIOD. SO THESE ARE SPECIALIZED

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SO THOSE WERE THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE HAD TO TO MAKE UP THIS DIFFERENCE.

ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT OR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT LIST OF VEHICLES? YOU'LL SEE THAT. YES, SIR. THESE ARE VEHICLES TO REPLACE CURRENT VEHICLES OR THESE ARE NEW VEHICLES TO BE USED OR NO SIR.

IN BACKUP MATERIAL MOST OF THEM ARE REPLACEMENT. SO AN OPTION ONE IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL UNDER PROJECT ONE THE THE SECOND PAGE UNDER THERE IS THIS LIST OF 36 VEHICLES THE ASSET THE FOURTH COLUMN OVER OR FIFTH COLUMN OVER DESCRIBES ASSET THAT'S BEING REPLACED FOR INSTANCE LINE ONE IS AN AMBULANCE IS $383,000 AND IT LISTS THE AMBULANCE THAT IS BEING REPLACED. SO THIS NEW AMBULANCE WOULD REPLACE A 2016 RAM AMBULANCE THAT HAS 232,000 MILES ON IT. SO AND THERE THERE THERE MAY BE THERE MAY BE ONE NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT I READ IN THE LIST I THINK IT'S IN PASSABLE OH HERE IT IS A NEW ADDITION TO FLEET THERE'S A THERE MAY BE ONE IN PASSIVE PARK HERE IS A NEW ADDITION IS A DECENT PASSENGER BUT FOR THE MOST PART THEY REPLACEMENT SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN.

YES. GOOD JOHN. YES, SIR.

WHAT'S THE LEAD TIME ON THE AMBULANCE AGAIN? I KNOW SO LONG FOR THESE, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THE EMS AMBULANCE BECAUSE IN 18 MONTHS TODD SAYS 18 MONTHS, 1818 YOU COME UP HERE TO GET YOUR HEAD. SO I MEAN I NEED A LEAD PERIOD ON THAT.

YES, SIR. HONESTLY, IT DEPENDS ON THE WHEN IT GOES OUT FOR BID, THE MANUFACTURERS THAT COME UP THE DIFFERENT ADDITIONS TO THOSE THAT ARE THERE AND IT HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT BETTER BUT STILL EMERGENCY ARE ARE DIFFICULT TO COME BY SO WE GOT A 12 YEAR OLD AMBULANCE THAT WE MAY HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER TWO YEARS WORTH OF MILES ON.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR. AND THEY THEY HAVE WE BOUGHT WE DID GET A FEW AMBULANCES IN SERVICE LAST YEAR. SOME OF THESE SERVICES TODD CREW TAKES REALLY GOOD CARE OF THEM, SOME THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS IS NOW OUR FLEET SERVICE MAINTENANCE IS DONE IN-HOUSE BY OUR STAFF SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT OUR EYES ON OUR VEHICLES DETERMINE WHAT WHAT WE SHOULD FIX, WHAT WE FIX, HOW WE CAN INCREASE LONGEVITY OF THESE VEHICLES OVER TIME OR WHEN IT'S TIME TO START SPENDING MONEY ON THINGS THAT WE CAN'T FIX REASONABLY ANYMORE. SO THAT LAW OF DIMINISHING RETURNS IN A KNOW IF I MAY SAY GOT I KNOW THAT MOST OF THESE THINGS WILL GO TO AUCTION THOUGH WE'RE EQUIPMENT. YES SIR. DO THEY GENERATE ANYTHING REALLY? SO IF YOU LOOK AT IN DAVE'S REPORT SO WHEN DAVE THOMAS WAS UP AT THE END OF HIS REPORT HE TALKED HE MENTIONED IN THAT REPORT SALES OF VEHICLES.

SO THOSE NUMBERS WERE THERE IN YOUR IN YOUR BIWEEKLY REPORT AND CHECK IT OUT.

YES, SIR, WE DO QUICK QUESTION A 36 VEHICLE REPRESENT ALL OUR VEHICLES.

TYPICAL VEHICLES A FRACTION. I'M SURE THAT IT'S A 1283 IT'S IN THE ASSETS 1283 IS SOME OF THE VEHICLES WE HAVE. YES. SO THIS IS ROUGHLY OF 25%.

OH, NO, NO, NO LESS THAN THAT. THAT'S 1.3%. OKAY.

IS THERE NO IS THIS PART OF THE REPLACEMENT OF THESE VEHICLES CYCLE OR WE DON'T DO WE HAVE A

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IN FITS WELL INTO THAT BUDGET PROCESS. YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. BUT YOU HAD IT IN THE BONES THAT WAS A FINANCE ISSUE SO THAT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH FLEET SERVICES.

SO FLEET SERVICES PUT TOGETHER A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE AND HE'S GOT A REALLY GOOD CAPITAL REPLACEMENT PLAN COMING FORWARD. THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT WAS DONE IN THE IN THE BUDGET IN THE FINANCE. SO THAT'S WHERE ONCE WE DISCOVERED THIS ISSUE THIS IS OUR SOLUTION FOR THAT. YES.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR. YES, SIR.

SO I SEE ON THE BOTTOM WE HAVE TWO BUCKET TRUCKS DIDN'T WE APPROVED TO BUY SOME OF THOSE EARLIER THIS YEAR BECAUSE I WAS LAUGHING WITH JARED THAT I SHOULD DRIVE IT.

YES, WE DID. SO THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS FOR ME.

YES, MA'AM. THERE'S TWO DEPARTMENTS WE HAVE BUCKET TRUCKS THAT'S FACILITY MAINTENANCE AND THAT'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS. TRAFFIC OPERATIONS HAS EMPLOYEES THAT CURRENTLY ROAM THROUGHOUT COUNTY AND IT'S BENEFICIAL TO HAVE AN EXTRA BUCKET TRUCK ON HAND. FACILITY MAINTENANCE USES THAT BUCKET TRUCK AS WELL.

SO THEY'RE KIND OF SHARING THOSE TWO TWO BUCKET TRUCKS. I MEAN THESE TRUCKS ARE VERY OLD. THEY ARE YES. I I WOULDN'T DRIVE A CAR THAT'S A 28 NO, I'M ONE OF THEM. YOU CAN'T EVEN FIND A BUCKET NO MORE FOR YOU NO LONGER MAKE THAT STOP. OKAY. SO QUESTION MR. ROBERSON AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND THIS IS SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY WE FOUND THE THE AREA THAT WAS UNDER THE THE BOND REVENUE BUT MOVING FORWARD I MEAN I THINKING THAT THE VEHICLES WOULD BE IN EACH DEPARTMENT SO NOT IN EACH DEPARTMENT. THIS IS THIS IS SEPARATE OR WHENEVER WE WE BUDGET A DEPARTMENT OF THE VEHICLES IN THAT ACTUAL DEPARTMENT IN THEIR BUDGET AS OPPOSED TO THIS BEING SEPARATE AND AGAIN THIS IS GOING FORWARD ARE WE GOING HAVE TO BUDGET THIS AMOUNT FOR EVERY YEAR MOVING FORWARD? THE $3 MILLION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR REPLACEMENT OR IS GETTING THAT IN THE DEPARTMENT'S.

SO SO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A FEW YEARS AGO THE FLEET SERVICES DEPARTMENT WAS AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND SO WHEN THE FLEET SERVICES WAS AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND EACH DEPARTMENT WOULD BUDGET FOR THEIR OWN VEHICLE REPLACEMENT IN THEIR OWN VEHICLE MAINTENANCE THERE THEY WOULD NEED TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE SO THE DEPARTMENT COULD PURCHASE THAT VEHICLE OR THEY GO THROUGH FLEET SERVICES TO DO THAT FOR THEM.

BUT THE FUNDING SOURCE CAME FROM DEPARTMENT. THIS CENTRALIZES THAT PROGRAM THE CENTRALIZE THE COST OF OF MAINTENANCE AND PURCHASING INSIDE ONE DEPARTMENT.

SO AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH YEAR AND THIS IS WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS AT ONE POINT THAT THIS IS PART OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SO THEY COME FORWARD WITH THEIR CAPITAL NEEDS, THEY DISCUSS THOSE CAPITAL NEEDS, THEY BRING THEIR CAPITAL NEEDS.

THE FLEET SERVICES FLEET SERVICES LOOKS AT THEIR CAPITAL NEEDS LOOKED AT THAT VEHICLE THEY HAVE THE VEHICLE THAT THEY'RE ASKING TO REPLACE IDENTIFIED THEY ALREADY KNOW ITS NEEDS AT THIS POINT. SO THE DEPARTMENT IS IS CONVINCING THE FLEET SERVICES MANAGER THAT THEY NEED THIS VEHICLE FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSE. SO THIS PUTS ANOTHER LAYER OF RESPONSIBILITY THROUGHOUT THE LOOP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT WE'RE ACTING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST PURCHASING VEHICLES BECAUSE WE WANT THEM BUT PURCHASING VEHICLES THAT WE NEED THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED FOR A SPECIFIC.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION BUT WE LOOK IN A SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT LINE ITEM THE VEHICLE PURCHASE ITEM IS 54400. I THINK I GOT THAT RIGHT.

I'M LOOKING AT VALERIE. MAKE SURE I GOT THE NUMBER RIGHT.

SO IN EACH DEPARTMENT THAT SPECIFIC LINE ITEM FOR VEHICLE PURCHASES IS THERE AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT FOR A DEPARTMENT IT IS ZERO BECAUSE THE FUNDS FOR THAT VEHICLE PURCHASE ARE WITHIN FLEET DEPARTMENT. IT WAS A HELPFUL YES. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES. WHICH WHICH VEHICLES WILL BE LEASED? WELL, THAT THAT DEPENDS ON YOU RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL SO IN WILL IN BOTH YOU'RE USED TO TWO AND THREE YOU'VE GOT NINE VEHICLES BEING LEASED.

YES TWO AND THREE THAT WOULD BE THERE WOULD BE THE OPTION FOR THESE VEHICLES AND YOU PREFER LEASING THEM OR PURCHASING THEM? NO SIR.

STAFF PREFERS OPTION ONE PURCHASE THEM OUTRIGHT. OKAY.

AND THE REASON PURCHASING OUT OUTRIGHT IS NOW THAT WE HAVE IN-HOUSE STAFF IT IS VERY

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SO THEY ARE TRANSIT VANS TO TRANSIT VANS FOR DSN AND BOTH OF THESE TRANSIT HAVE THE HANDICAPPED LIFTS IN THE BACK OF THE VANS THEMSELVES ARE BUT THOSE LIFTS BEGIN TO FAIL QUICKLY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN THEM PROPERLY AND THAT THEY'RE SAFE FOR SO THOSE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT TRADED IN MORE FREQUENTLY THAN THAN SOMETHING ELSE.

THERE'S A THERE'S AN SUV TYPE BAND WITH A WHEELCHAIR RAMP OF IT AND A FEW PARKS AND REX VEHICLES 215 PASSENGER VANS A 12 TO 1212 PASSENGER BUS AND A 12 PASSENGER BUS BUS FOR PRISONER TRANSPORT. SO THESE ARE ALL VEHICLES THAT USED DAILY THAT SEE A LOT OF MILEAGE AND A LOT OF USES. SO IF WE WERE GOING TO TO LEASE VEHICLES THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM FLEET SERVICES BUT WE STILL PREFER OPTION ONE.

OPTION ONE IS A STRAIGHT OUT PURCHASE. YES, MA'AM.

36 VEHICLES? YES, MA'AM. OPTION TWO WE WOULD LEASE NINE VEHICLES. YES. AND PURCHASE SEVEN? YES. OPTION THREE WE'RE GOING TO LEASE NINE VEHICLES AND PURCHASE 27. WE'LL GET A PURCHASE THROUGH 27 BUT TWO FUNDING SOURCES.

SO HALF OF THE FUNDING WILL COME FROM THAT ACCOUNT I DESCRIBED WHICH WAS FACILITIES MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT AND WE WILL HAVE TO DEFER SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT UNTIL NEXT BUDGET YEAR. IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO IT'S NOT PREFERRED BECAUSE WE'LL BE DEFERRING THE PURCHASE OF OTHER EQUIPMENT. HOWEVER THE FLEET MAINTENANCE STAFF IS ASSURED OF THEY CAN RENT WHAT THEY NEED IN BETWEEN UNTIL WE MAKE THEM WHOLE AGAIN.

IN FY 26 BUDGET WE TRIED TO PRESENT AS BEST OPTIONS AS WE COULD TO MAKE FOR THIS ERROR IN FUNDING. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT IS THE WILL OF THIS COMMITTEE AS IT BRIAN WE NOW YOU JUST WE'RE GOING PROJECT NUMBER TWO DISCUSSION OR DO WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON PROJECT ONE WE SHOULD FULLY DISCUSS THIS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR IMPROVEMENT JUST FOR THE DISCUSSION TO SEE WHICH WAY YOU'RE LEANING. SO. ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION REGARDS TO WHICH WAY THIS THIS COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD? ONE, TWO OR THREE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A WITH APPROVING OPTION ONE. DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME OF THE FUNDAMENTALS BUT BUT I AGREE IF YOU'RE ASKING ME THAT THAT WOULD BE WHAT I THINK THAT IS THE CORRECT IF YOU KNOW THERE I JUST WOULDN'T THING ABOUT THE HANDICAPPED VANS I HAVE A PERSONAL FRIEND HAS ONE IN THIS A LOT OF THOSE LIVES HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES I JUST WONDER IF IT WOULD BE BETTER TO LEASE THOSE I DON'T KNOW I MEAN IT'S JUST A PERSONAL THING IN HER PERSONAL EXPERIENCE BUT I WILL SAY THAT IF IF YOU DO FULLY FUND THEM THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE FLEET SERVICES FROM THE OPTION OF LEASING LEASING THEM. MM HMM. THE READ THE OPTIONS THERE IS REALLY ABOUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT . OPTION ONE IS OR OPTION TWO IS LESS EXPENSIVE. SHE WISHES SHE AT LEAST FIVE ISSUES.

THERE'S JUST NOT MANY MANUFACTURERS. THAT'S RIGHT.

THEY'RE TOUGH. OUR FLEET GUYS DO A GOOD JOB KEEPING THEM GOING.

YEP. RIGHT. SO CAN WE MOVE ON OUT OF PROJECT NUMBER TWO? YES. LET'S MOVE ON TO PROJECT NUMBER TWO. ALL RIGHT, MR. ROBINSON, IT'S ALL RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT A WHOLE CONTINGENT FROM FROM OUR AIRPORTS HERE WE HAVE JOHN HERE FROM THE AIRPORT, STEVE PERRY THE RIDE COME WITH YOU KNOW YOU'RE BUSY ON THAT.

OKAY. SO AGAIN I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH PROJECT ONE, TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED AND ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

JOHN RUMBOLD AND HIS DEPUTY STEVE ARE HERE TO ANSWER YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M NOT OUR PORT GUY. ALL SO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST FOR LET ME FIND

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SO HERE'S WHAT I COULD FIND ON THE EXISTING PAYABLE LOAN. THIS IS A LOAN FROM VIEW FOR COUNTIES FUND BALANCE THE BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT THAT DATES AS FAR BACK AS 2002.

THIS IS AN UNSTRUCTURED TYPE OF LOAN AND WHEN I MEAN UNSTRUCTURED THERE WAS NO DEFINED PAYBACK PERIOD AND NO DEFINED PAYMENT AMOUNT. SO THIS WAS MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. EACH YEAR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT GETS A WE'LL SAY A GIG ON OUR IN OUR AUDIT BECAUSE OF UNSTRUCTURED AND UNSTRUCTURED LOAN FROM OUR FUND BALANCE HERE. SO THE HISTORY OF THIS AND NO ONE NO ONE IN THIS WELL NO ONE THAT I TALK WITH I WON'T SAY NO ONE IN THIS ROOM BUT NO ONE I TALKED TO WAS HERE AT THE POINT WHEN THIS PAYABLE LOAN WAS GENERATED. SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A RUNWAY SAFETY PROJECT THAT BEGAN NEGOTIATION WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AROUND 2002.

THERE WAS A A PORTION OF THAT FUNDING FROM THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS BEFORE AN EXECUTIVE AIRPORT WAS REQUIRED TO TO PAY. SO THEY HAD A MATCHING GRANT MORE OR LESS THE AIRWAYS SAFETY PROJECT WENT ON. IT WAS FUNDED AND PAID FOR THROUGH THE ARMY CORPS YEARS WHEN AIRPORT STAFF WAS DOING A NEW PROJECT WITH THE ARMY CORPS. ARMY CORPS CAME BACK TO STAFF AND SAID HEY, YOU REALLY DIDN'T PAY YOUR YOUR REQUIRED PORTION THIS 2002 SO IF YOU WANT THIS NEW GRANT WE NEED TO COVER OLD GRANT AND THAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 2013 AND 2016 I THINK IS THE TIMING RIGHT SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIME FRAME. SO BEFORE AN EXECUTIVE DID NOT HAVE BIG IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND SO IT IS A BUSINESS OF COUNTY. THEY CARRY THEIR OWN FUND BALANCE OR CASH BALANCE.

THEY DID NOT HAVE THE FUNDS AT THE TIME TO TO MAKE THAT APPROPRIATION.

SO THEY CAME TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND COUNTY AT THAT TIME LOANED THEM THE FUNDS MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE. THAT AND I BELIEVE IN THAT TIME PERIOD WELL SOME MONEY AS WELL FOR A HANGAR PROJECT THE BALANCE OF THAT.

SO WE CAN FIND THIS IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT CAN FOLLOW THIS BACK TO THE EARLIEST POINT IN TIME IN THE MUNIS SYSTEM THAT SHOWS JUST AS A PAYABLE FUND.

SO LIKE I THE BALANCE OF THEIR PAYABLE ACCOUNT ESSENTIALLY A DEBT TO THE FUND BALANCE IS THAT 17 OF $712,750.52 THE REVENUE THE CURRENT REVENUE OF THE BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT IS IS THIN IN ORDER FOR THEM TO COVER THEIR OPERATING COST, MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL COST THAT HAS TO BE DONE FIRST AND THEN THEY USE ANY EXCESS LEFT OVER FROM THEIR BUDGET TO PAY BACK THIS LOAN LAST YEAR THE PAYBACK TO THIS LOAN $10,000.

THIS WILL TAKE A LONG TO PAY OFF RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? WHERE THAT'S FROM YOUR QUESTIONS. HAVE THEY'VE BEEN I GUESS I GUESS MR. TRIMBLE, THAT THEY PAID 10,000 A YEAR ON THAT LOAN NOT YEAR JUST LAST YEAR? I DON'T KNOW WHAT LAST YEAR'S THE FIRST YEAR THEY PAID ON THE LOAN? NO, MA'AM. AND MAYBE HE DOESN'T KNOW EITHER.

NO, I'LL BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU. WE RESEARCHED THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE TO TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT THE HISTORY WAS AND REALLY NOBODY KNOWS.

OKAY. I MEAN THE BEST GUESS THE WELL IN MITIGATION THAT JOHN DESCRIBED IS OUR BEST GUESS AT THE POINT OF THAT I KNOW THAT THAT HAD THAT HAPPENED THE PAYMENT OF THAT HAPPENED I WAS HERE WE REFER TO THAT INSIDE THE DEPARTMENT SINS OF THE PAST BECAUSE THAT HAPPENED LONG BEFORE CAME ON BOARD AND IT JUST WAS A MITIGATION THAT WAS NEVER PAID BY THE COUNTY. SO WE ENDED UP PAYING THAT AND I THINK WE WROTE THAT CHECK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2018. IT'S EMBLAZONED IN MY MIND BUT THE REST OF THAT AND THE PAYMENTS OF THAT ARE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THE LOAN

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SO LET'S GO AHEAD TO THIS PART OF THIS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT CERTAINLY . SO THE HANGAR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT MR. RUMBOLD AND HIS TEAM HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD THE HANGAR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT DURING THE PUBLIC FACILITIES MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT THE HORIZONTAL PORTION OF THE HANGAR PROJECT WHICH IS ALREADY APPROVED AND FUNDED AND THAT IS THIS IS THE NEXT STEP. SO DURING THAT MEETING THE PUBLIC FACILITIES TEAM ASKED HOW DO WE FUND THE HOW WE FUND THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE HANGARS AND THAT IS THE REQUEST THAT'S COME FOR YOU FOR TO YOU NOW THERE WE HAVE PRESENTED THREE OPTIONS. OF COURSE THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THIS.

ONE OF THESE IS A REQUEST OF A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE OF THAT FULL AMOUNT TO PAY FOR THE HANGARS JOHN STAFF JOHN'S FINANCE STAFF TOGETHER WHAT THEY CONSIDER WOULD BE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THAT FOR THE HANGAR PROJECT ONCE THEY'RE FULLY LEASED OUT YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE FROM PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS THAT THE HANGARS THAT WE'VE HEARD EXECUTIVE OR 100% FOR AND STAY 100% FOR THERE'S AT LEAST 63 PEOPLE ON THE WAITING LIST ADDITIONAL HANGARS THESE HANGARS WILL BE FULLY OCCUPIED THE DAY THEY'RE OPEN AND THEY HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO BE TO BE FILLED AND THEY WILL BE COLLECTING FEES AND RENT FOR AIRCRAFT IN THOSE FACILITIES. EACH NEW AIRCRAFT THAT IS HOME BASED AT BEFORE EXECUTIVE GENERATES TAX DOLLARS TO COUNTY THE TIE DOWN FEES AND HANGAR FEES GO BACK TO BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AND WILL HELP YOU FOR AN EXECUTIVE HAVE A REVENUE THAT SUSTAINABLE REVENUE IN WHICH THEY CAN REINVEST IN THEIR AIRPORT SO OPTION ONE ALLOWS FOR THAT MAXIMUM REINVESTMENT INTO THE AIRPORT BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT HAVE THEY WILL HAVE NOT CREATED NEW DEBT OPTION TWO IS JUST THAT TO CREATE NEW DEBT OPTION TWO IS THERE IS THE REQUEST FOR THE SAME FUNDING WITH A STRUCTURED FINANCING OPTION.

SO THIS WOULD BE BEFORE THE EXECUTIVE WOULD PAY BACK COUNTY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AS SHOWN IN THE IN THE PROJECT AND OPTION THREE WHICH IS SHOWN AS WELL IS ANOTHER IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY BUT THAT WAS TO INCLUDE THOSE FUNDS IN GO BOND. NOW THE GEO BOND IS IT ADDS SECOND READING TONIGHT THAT IT COULD BE OF WITH MUSIC I DON'T KNOW IT'S A YEAH IT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE GEO BOND BUT THE GEO BOND WOULD HAVE TO BE AMENDED TO GO FORWARD IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CHOSE TO DO. SO THOSE THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING TO FORWARD TO COUNCIL OR WHICHEVER YOU MIGHT CHOOSE IF I COULD JUST ASK YOU SAID YES SIR THE INFRASTRUCTURE PART WENT THE PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE YES SIR JOHN OR JERRY DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT? SO THAT HAS HAS THE HAS THE HANGARS THOUGH APPROVAL HAS NOT GONE THROUGH PUBLIC FACILITIES MEAN I REMEMBER SEEING THE $4.3 MILLION AMOUNT EVEN APPROVES IT THIS LOOKS LIKE WE'RE JUST APPROVING THE MONEY BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HANGARS AT THE AIRPORT OR ANY POINT WHAT THE COST WOULD BE AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE DESIGNED AND WHAT'S THERE. WELL, THAT IS THAT COVERS THE COST OF THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION SO WE CAN THE PUBLIC WITH THE CONTRACT RECOMMENDATION THE SITE WORK CONSTRUCTION AND IT'S BECAUSE HAD FUNDING FOR THAT SO ONE OF THE OPTIONS AS WE LOOKED AT THIS AS A GROUP WAS WE COULD DO ALL OF THE SITE WORK WE'VE IT FUNDED AND THEN THAT SITE WORK CAN JUST SIT UNTIL WE SLOWLY GAIN ENOUGH REVENUE TO BUILD YOU KNOW PART A BUILDING AT A TIME OR ONE BUILDING AT A TIME OVER THE NEXT YOU KNOW, 10 TO 15 YEARS AND EVENTUALLY HAVE A HANGAR COMPLEX OUT THERE. SO SHOULD THE APPROVAL OF THIS GO THROUGH PUBLIC FACILITIES OR OBVIOUSLY WE'RE APPROVING THE MONEY BUT THE ACTUAL APPROVAL OF THE OF THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, DOES THAT GO THROUGH PUBLIC FACILITIES INSTEAD OF COMING THROUGH US FOR IT DOESN'T FOR THE COMMUNITY FINANCE WAS PREFERRED SO IT WOULD GO TO COUNCIL THEN THEY WOULD PROVE THAT. SO I THINK THIS IS WHY WHY WE KIND OF LOOK AT AS TO PROJECT THIS SO ON THIS ONE WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING TWO THINGS ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROVING MONEY FOR THE HANGARS AND THEN SECONDLY FINDING WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM SO AND SO THERE IS TWO PARTS TO THIS EVEN AS A PROJECT PART OF THE PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION

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MAYBE IT'S ABOUT IT. NO IT'S ONE ITEM IT'S PAGE TWO OF THIS THING THAT'S WHERE IT SAYS PAGE PROJECT SCOPE ITEM NO THAT RIGHT THERE. SO THE TOTAL COST WITH SITE WORK CONSTRUCTION 7.1 MILLION RIGHT JUST SO NOBODY THINKS WE'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR 4.3 MILLION AND WE HAVE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN I'M NOT GOING TO SAY OUR 1.4 MILLION AND THEN YOU HAVE SOUTH CAROLINA AREA NOT X WE APPLIED FOR PENDING GRANT 1.388 SO GRANT FUNDS 788 AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 4,000,303. RIGHT? SO WE'VE GOT THAT SITE WORKERS NOW WE DID GO IN FRONT OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA AIRLINES COMMISSION THAT BEEN APPROVED SO THE SITE WAS COMPLETELY FUNDED AT THIS POINT.

THE DELTA THE 4.303. SO JOHN, QUESTION WITH OPTION TWO COULD THERE STILL BE A WAY TO GIVE YOU ALL ALONG THAT AND WAIVE THE PREVIOUS 712 BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT LISTED IN THERE UNLESS I'M MISSING THAT'S NOT ONE THAT WE LOOKED AT. I MEAN IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S A COUNCIL BEING AN ENTERPRISE FUND I THINK HAVING A FAVORABLE LOAN OPTION WOULD BE GOOD BUT THEN YOU KNOW, SINS OF THE PAST MAYBE WE CAN ABSOLVE YOU OF THAT IN IT DOES HELP SOMEWHAT BUT I WOULD REFER YOU TO THE AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH ONE OF THESE OPTIONS OR IN THAT OPTION THERE'S A BOX THAT DESCRIBES A VERY CONSERVATIVE LAYOUT OF HOW THE HOW THESE INDIVIDUAL HANGARS MIGHT BE RENTED OUT. AND THIS AGAIN ARE WE UP TO 68 PEOPLE? WE HAVE 68 PEOPLE WAITING ON A WAITING LIST.

SO IT'S SOMEWHAT JOKINGLY REFERRED TO AS THE ORGAN DONOR LIST BECAUSE THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A HANGER ABUSER AND THAT SELL WELL FOR THE COUNTY.

SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE YOU HAVE COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO GO TO OTHER COUNTIES LOOKING FOR HANGARS AND THEN PAYING TAXES IN OTHER COUNTIES AS WELL FOR THIS HANGAR.

SO OTHER EXPATRIATED IN REVENUE FROM COUNTY TO OTHER COUNTIES SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS PROJECT AND WE CAME TO WITH JARED AND WITH FINANCE WE HAD NO IDEA THE AIRPORT THAT THAT THE FUND BALANCE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BUT WHEN THAT OPTION WAS PRESENTED TO US SOUNDED LIKE A GREAT IDEA OF THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT A LOAN PROGRAM WOULD DO FOR THE AIRPORT, THE AIRPORT COULD GENERATE, YOU KNOW, JUST OVER $14,000 A YEAR IN REVENUE FROM THAT ACTIVITY ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE HANGARS NOW THAT EXCLUDES FUEL PURCHASES AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT YOU HEARD JOHN MENTION THAT JUST LAST YEAR WE PAID A MEDIOCRE A SMALL MODEST $10,000 PAYMENT ON THAT OUTSTANDING ON STRUCTURED LOAN.

WELL THAT LEAVES US WITH 40 $300 AND YOU CANNOT EXECUTE THE TYPE DEFERRED PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE IN THIS PACKAGE WITH 40 $300 A YEAR WE HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF DEFERRED SAFETY PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO EXECUTE AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THAT WE LEAN SO HEAVILY ON. OPTION ONE IS THAT IT WOULD BE DEFINITELY FOR THIS COUNCIL THE MOST IMPACTFUL DECISION THAT YOU WOULD ON BEHALF OF THE AIRPORT.

THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT AND FRANKLY YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX THAT COMES FROM THE AIRPORT, THERE WOULDN'T BE AIRPLANES IF THERE WASN'T AN AIRPORT INTO GENERAL FUND THAT MADE THAT OPTION OF THE YOU KNOW, THE PAYMENT FROM GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT MORE APPETIZING TO THE AIRPORT THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE A GEO BOND BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT THAT MONEY IS BEING CONTRIBUTED FROM THE AIRPORT TO THE GENERAL OVER THE YEARS BUT NOT ONE DOESN'T GIVE YOU WHAT'S RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT YOUR WHOLE STRUCTURE REVENUE DOESN'T REALLY GIVE YOU MUCH RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT WELL OPTION ONE SIR WOULD GIVE US $218,000 ANNUALLY TO SERVICE THAT HOME IF YOU HAD A LOAN TO THAT OPTION TO THE MY POINT IS

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SO WE'D PREFER TO RENT THAT OUT AS A AS A HOTEL SO FOR TRANSIENT AIRCRAFT MOVING THAT HANGAR YOU CAN RECOGNIZE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE REVENUE. THIS IS A PRETTY ESTIMATE SAYING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN AIRCRAFT A LARGE AIRCRAFT IN THERE IS AN OWNER OF AN AIRCRAFT THAT'S SEVERAL MILLION DOLLAR AIRCRAFT IS WILLING TO PAY A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS A NIGHT TO, PUT THAT UNDERNEATH A ROOF. SO VERY CONSERVATIVELY WE SAID THAT WE WOULD RENT THAT OUT, YOU KNOW FOR BASICALLY HALF THE MONTH AND MAKE $36,000 OFF OF THAT THAT'S PROBABLY PRETTY ESTIMATE. SO I THINK THE 218,000 THAT YOU SEE THERE IS A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE ON WHAT THAT REVENUE LOOK LIKE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HUNDRED AND 18 NUMBER THAT YOU'RE USING THROUGHOUT YOUR PROPOSAL OBVIOUSLY ONE, TWO AND THREE MY MY MY MY CONCERN IS REALLY IF YOU HAD TO BORROW THOSE FUNDS EVEN THE $4 MILLION FUNDS YOU'RE BREAKING EVEN THAT'S BASICALLY IF I COULD HELP YOU OUT, MR. GLOVER OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'VE GOT $7 MILLION INVESTMENT AND ONLY BRINGING IN $15,000 A MONTH $17,000 A MONTH IN RENT ON A $7 MILLION INVESTMENT. IS IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE HEADING? YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S WHERE I WOULD GO. SO WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME HERE. SO WHAT WOULD THIS COMMITTEE LIKE TO DO ON THIS? SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, OPTION ONE TAKES MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE AND THEN YOU'RE ASKING US TO WAIVE THE LOAN. WE'RE NOT USING ENTERPRISE FUNDS. WE'RE USING GENERAL FUND BALANCE, CORRECT? CORRECT. BECAUSE AT THE BEGINNING THIS ENTIRE THING WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FAA, YOU SAID AN ENTERPRISE, CORRECT. THIS NOW PUTS IT ON THE TAXPAYER IS IN THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE. WE'RE GOING TO USE GENERAL FUND MONEY. IT IS. BUT WHAT I DESCRIBE TO YOU WITH THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX MONEY THAT IS GENERATED AT THE AIRPORT, WE FEEL THAT THAT'S MORE THAN BEEN DEPOSITED INTO THE GENERAL FUND FROM THE AIRPORT WITH WITH NO THERE'S NEVER THERE'S NOT BEEN A FUNDING OF A PROJECT AT THE AIRPORT USING THAT GENERAL FUND BALANCE USED TO BE THE FIRST REQUEST THAT WE MAKE TO YOU SOME OF THAT FUNDING BUT YOU DON'T SHOOT IT IN THIS REPORT. THAT'S REVENUE COMING IN. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT SHOW IT IN THIS REPORT. YES, SIR. YOU DO.

THERE IS A PARAGRAPH THERE. I'LL TALK ABOUT IT REAL QUICKLY.

THERE'S A PARAGRAPH THERE THAT DESCRIBES THE TAX REVENUE FROM THAT WE WORK WITH THE AUDITOR THE AUDITOR AND WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS. IT'S BETWEEN 170 AND 195 TAXABLE AIRCRAFT IN COUNTY THAT THAT GENERATE BILLS AROUND $1,000,000 A YEAR AND THE REVENUE IS AROUND $600,000 PER YEAR ON THE TAXABLE AIRCRAFT THAT ARE HOME BASED IN COUNTY.

MANY OF WHICH ARE AT. IT'S A LITTLE PARAGRAPH IN THERE I CAN SHOW YOU WHERE IT IS. OKAY. WHEN WE THINK IT HELPS A LOT.

YEAH. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WE WANT TO VOTE ON THIS. I DON'T KNOW. I LIKE NUMBER TWO BETTER THAN I LIKE NUMBER ONE. I WOULD EVEN GOES SO TWO AND A HALF PERCENT YOU KNOW I A LOW

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YES YEAH YEAH. WHAT ABOUT A HYBRID APPROACH I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME EVERYBODY'S COMING OUT TRYING TO GET THE EXCESS IN THE GENERAL FUND.

I WANT TO FUND PROJECT BUT CAN WE DO A HYBRID APPROACH WHERE WE'RE TAKING 2 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND NO RETURN ON LOAN AND THEN DON'T DO A $2,000,002.3 MILLION STRUCTURED STRUCTURE? NORM WE CAN WE CAN WAIVE AND WAIVE THE SEVEN SO WE CAN WORK WITH FINANCE AND LOOK AT ANY THAT YOU MIGHT RECOMMEND DO YOU WANT TO INSTEAD OF DEFERRING IT SOME THINGS COULD STILL MOVE FORWARD. DO WE WANT TO VOTE TO MOVE THIS TO COUNTY? WHAT IS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION, MR. ROBINSON IS THERE IS THERE A NEED FOR US TO PASS THIS TO MOVE THIS TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR BOTH PROJECT ONE AND PROJECT TWO? WE WOULD LIKE FOR TO MOVE PROJECT ONE FORWARD SO WE CAN GET TO WORK ON THE PURCHASE AND VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE GREAT. PROJECT TWO CAN COME FORWARD ANY WAY YOU LIKE WITH THE SOONER WE CAN WE CAN ESTABLISH A FUNDING SOURCE THE SOONER WE CAN GET DESIGN AND WORK DONE. SO IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU WHATEVER YOUR DESIRE IS BUT IT'S PROBABLY LESS URGENCY ON NUMBER TWO BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THAT SITE FULLY FUNDED WE WILL BEGIN THE SITE WORK. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW LONG YOU WANT TO LOOK AT ADS FOR BUILDINGS WITHOUT BUILDINGS. YEAH. I MEAN I'M IN FAVOR OF TAKING PROJECT ONE AND PUSHING PROJECT TWO TO LATER BECAUSE AS YOU SAID WE STILL DO THE SITE WORK.

THERE'S NO URGENCY FOR THAT ONE. I FEEL AN URGENCY FOR THE FLEET . RIGHT. SO WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION THAT THAT FORWARD THAT SO WE DO THE STEERING IS GOING TO MAKE SENSE FOR THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR PROJECT ONE YOU'VE SEEN THE ORDINANCE IN THE PREAMBLE AND IN THE ORDER THAT IT SAYS 3.2 MILLION BUT THE BACK UP TALKS ABOUT 3.3 MILLION JUST UNDER 3.3.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO FORWARD I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU AMEND IT TO 3.3 GOING FORWARD AND THEN PART OF THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO REMOVE PROJECT TWO FROM THE ORDINANCE GOING FORWARD. SO WE JUST BRING PROJECT ONE FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HEARD YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT.

THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH, WE'LL TAKE THAT. OKAY.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. OH, YOU REMOVE PROJECT ONE FOR 3.3 MILLION AND AND REMOVE PROJECT TWO FOR LATER. OKAY SO YOU GOT 2 SECONDS. SO NOW YOU HAVE TAKE A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT BUT THE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT DISCUSSION IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? NOPE, NO OBJECTION. SO IT PASSES SO THEN YOU HAVE TO VOTE THE MAIN MOTION.

SO THE MAIN MOTION IS TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO COUNCIL TO MOVE AS A COUNCIL BUT PROJECT A PROJECT ONE IS GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL AND THE PROJECT TO IT'S BEEN PULLED BACK IS WITHDRAWN FROM THE BOARD FROM THE ORDER THE ORDINANCE WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT SO YOU'RE VOTING ON THE MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED IS WHAT YOU'RE ON. OKAY AND ANY DISCUSSION SAME NO DISCUSSION OR VOTING ON A PARTICULAR OPTION OR IS IS ON THE TABLE ALREADY SO FOR THE FOUR THE FIRST ONE IS OVER THE FLEET YEAH THE FLEET WE WANT TO SEE BUT OPTION ONE TWO OR THREE OF WHAT WE I GUESS WE NEED TO DECIDE THAT THEN AS WELL. WHAT IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT FROM PROJECT ONE WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED YOU'D HAVE TO AMEND IT.

NO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE OPTIONS FOR PROJECT FUNDING BUT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR OPTION ONE. OKAY SO IF YOU WANT A DIFFERENT OPTION YOU RECOMMENDED I'M GOING TO GO WITH OPTION ONE WAS OPTION ONE FOR 3.3 THAT'S 3.3 AND THAT'S FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE VEHICLES. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION SO NO DISCUSSION OR ANY OBJECTION .

SO NO OBJECTION THAT WILL BE MOVED TO COUNTY COUNCIL ALL RIGHT.

SO WE GOT 11 MINUTES LEFT HERE. IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION. I'M YEAH.

I MEAN THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT THINGS. I HATE TO CUT THINGS SHORT AND CAN YOU I'M READY TO GO. IT'S NO NUMBER WE NEED TO PROBABLY MOVE IN A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION SO WE DON'T FORGET THAT. LET ME I RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO

[10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT GRANT FUNDS FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE IN THE AMOUNT OF $100,000 IN SUPPORT OF PROJECT MICRO -Hank Amundson- Special Assistant to County Administrator]

THIS IS SIMPLY THE AWARDING OF THAT APPLICATION VERY SIMILAR TO PROJECT GREEN OR PROJECT COMMUTER WHERE WE ACT AS THE PASS THROUGH BECAUSE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE GIVES IT

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ALL RIGHT. AND COULD YOU JUST FOR THE RECORD OF PEOPLE LISTENING ON PAGE 41 YOU TALK ABOUT THE COMMITMENT OF THE COMPANY TO INVEST NOT LESS THAN $7.1 MILLION AND CREATE NOT LESS 35 NEW JOBS. I THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD HEAR THAT AND I THAT JOHN HAS REPORTED ON THIS IN THE PAST BUT I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME BUT THIS WAS THIS IS A BIG PROJECT THAT DOES KIDDING OF AIRPLANE AEROSPACE PRODUCTS THAT IS USING THE BUILDING UP IN GARDENS CORNER RIGHT ON THE 17 AND 21 GREAT REUSE OF THE BUILDING THEY'RE GOING TO EXPAND THAT THIS MONEY IS FOR THE EXPANSION OF THAT BUILDING AND THE WAY DEPARTMENT COMMERCE WORKS IS ON ANY OF THEIR GRANTS THERE ARE THRESHOLDS THEY MUST SUCCEED IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE AND THEY HAVE DONE SO TO PROVE THAT IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND IF THEY WERE EVER TO DO SOMETHING IS A CLAWBACK PROCESS THAT AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT WOULD THEN DO THIS BUT OUR OURS IS REIMBURSED RENT AS THEY GO FORWARD AND THEN THERE'S A FIVE YEAR PERIOD I BELIEVE TO CREATE AND INVEST THAT MONEY ALL RIGHT ANYMORE DISCUSSION OF THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH A VOTE IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE SECONDED THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION AND I SEE NO OBJECTION. SO THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED FAR

[11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A CONTRACT AWARD TO DESIGN-BUILD TEAM MITCHEL CONSTRUCTION & COAST ARCHITECTS FOR IFB #080824 AGNES MAJOR & WESLEY FELIX COMMUNITY CENTERS (FISCAL IMPACT: $3,040,452.00) - Hank Amundson, Special Assistant to the Administrator]

WELL THEN MR. MCDOWELL CAN LIVE WITH IT. YES WELL THAT'S A MOTION SIGN ON FOR THIS ITEM SO WE DO NEED A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM FOR US TO DISCUSS IT.

THERE ARE MOTION A MOTION. ALL RIGHT THE SECOND NO IT WAS THE MOTION FOR US TO CONSIDER THIS ITEM AND TO TO DISCUSS IT TO CONSIDER IT NOW. YES.

THIS WAS STILL DISCUSSED. OKAY SO YOU ARE AWAKE. I PREFER READING BECAUSE IT'S REALLY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS WE NEED BUT YEAH IF YOU WAIT YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT FINANCE MEETING WHICH IS AN OKAY THEN THEN WE'LL OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND YES OKAY I'LL SECOND ALL RIGHT. SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

SO IT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD JUST AS BACKGROUND THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE AND WE PUT THIS ON ON THE AGENDA THIS IS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL PROJECTS FOR COMMUNITY CENTERS TO BE BUILT THE PLAN WAS TO PUT THEM IN PARKS SO WE CAN HAVE JOINT USE OF THESE FACILITIES. WE ACTUALLY FELIX ON SAINT HELENA IS A VERY NICE PARK AND I FEEL THERE'LL BE CONTINUED IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD BE LOCATED ON SAINT HELENA. THE QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT HEALTH CENTER THIS IS NOT A COMPETITIVE STAFFED THIS IS NOT TO COMPETE WITH BEAUFORT JASPER COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH.

THIS IS A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT IS AT PARKS FACILITY BOTH THIS AND THE ONE IN SHELDON WHICH WOULD BE AT AGNES MAJOR PARK THAT WERE PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THE ARPA FUNDS.

SO THE REASON IT'S I'M GLAD YOU'RE HEARING IT TONIGHT IS BECAUSE OBLIGATIONS HAVE TO HAPPEN BY THE END OF THIS YEAR AND SO IF WE IF WE CAN HAVE IT POTENTIALLY GO HERE IN THE GO TO COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 12TH I BELIEVE IS THE DATE THEN THAT WOULD GIVE US TIME TO HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE TO OBLIGATE FUNDS AND THEREFORE AND THIS IS NOT A THIS IS THE BASE PLAN.

WHAT WE WHEN WE STARTED I'VE KIND OF HAD A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF POTENTIAL OF WHERE THE SITES WERE SENT FOR THE RFP PROCESS. WE HAD FIVE BIDS, A LOT OF INTEREST AND IT'S A NOT A TREMENDOUSLY LARGE BUT IT WAS IT'S A BASE FOR PLAN THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE DESIGN BUILD PROCESS WITH JOINT COMPANY OF MITCHELL AND COAST TO HAVE MOVABLE WALLS. WE'VE HAD COMMUNITY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HAVING A FLEXIBLE WHERE YOU COULD OPEN UP WALLS TO HAVE A ROOM HAVE SMALLER ROOMS BY SLIDING WALLS FOR CLASSROOMS

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BUT I KIND OF GIVE YOU THE HISTORY FIVE BIDDERS WE WENT DOWN THEY WENT NO, I WAS NOT A PART OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. THEY WENT DOWN TO TWO.

THEY WENT AND NEGOTIATED BACK AND CHOSE ONE AND THEN NEGOTIATED THIS PRICE.

IT IS A SLIGHTLY OVER THE ALLOCATED A DOLLAR AMOUNT OF $3 MILLION FOR THESE TWO BUILDINGS AS I SHOWED IN MY REPORT LAST MONTH AND AGAIN THIS MONTH THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER OVER AND IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED WHEN BUDGETING THESE FUNDS IT SAID IN ANTICIPATION OF THAT ADMINISTRATION COUNCIL AND COMMITTEE CAN MOVE THE MONEY TO COVER THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE SOME ARE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN SOME ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LESS EXPENSIVE AND SOME ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE.

THIS IS SLIGHTLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE THREE BUT THE MONEY THERE'S ONE MORE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT IS TO BE BUILT UNDER HUSKY AND THAT IS IN THE BOND THAT YOU'RE HAVING SECOND READING ON TONIGHT. THIS IS ACTUALLY LOWER THAN WE THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO COME IN. WE WERE WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE TWO BUILDINGS FOR TWO THREE WE WERE AFRAID THAT THREE WOULDN'T EVEN COVER A BUILDING AND A HALF AND SO THIS WOULD GET THOSE TWO PROJECTS ROLLING AND THE RFP FOR THE SAINT HELENA ONE IS IN THE ISLAND PROJECT SHOULD BE IN FOR NEXT MONTH'S MEETING. IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT I CAN LIST THE SQUARE IN THESE BUILDINGS JUST OVER 2000 SQUARE FEET. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

IN THE 2000. I WISH THAT I DON'T RIGHT BUT WE DON'T IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FORCE FEED IT WE DON'T HAVE IT AND WE CAN WE CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WORKED ON SINCE THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2022 AND THE BUILDING HAS BEEN THAT SIZE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. SO WE'RE JUST BRINGING TO COUNCIL AND COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL. QUESTION YOU SAID THEY HAVE MOVABLE WALLS SO THE MEAN THERE'S A BATHROOM THE BATHROOMS AND THE MOVABLE SO THE AREA COULD BE DIVIDED RIGHT IF YOU HAD ONE SMALL GROUP RIGHT VERSUS A COMMUNITY MEETING OR SOME SORT OF INFORMATION SHARING LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE DONE OVER THE COUNTY? YEAH, I WOULD SAY YOU SAID 2000 SQUARE FEET. I DON'T HAVE THE PIECE OF PAPER IN FRONT OF I BELIEVE IT'S BETWEEN 2000 THE ONE I SENT YOU THE AERIAL VIEW OR THERE WAS A FLOOR PLAN I SENT TO BURNHAM AND IT'S IN THE R&D AREA OF USE THERE IT IS 2000 SQUARE FEET OR SO AND WHEN I PUT IT HEY 3800 SQUARE FEET HOW ABOUT THAT? THAT'S BETTER.

THAT'S BETTER. YOU KNOW THE MORE YOU LOOK AT THESE YEAH LOOK AT THE BUT AND IT'S AGAIN IT'S MULTI-USE FLEXIBLE SPACE AND THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND OTHERS WHEN WE SPOKE TO EVEN SURROUNDING COUNTIES WAS MAKE SURE YOU DON'T PUT THESE HARD WALLS THAT BOX THIS PLACE UP SO THAT IF YOU HAVE A LARGER EVENT CAN SLIDE IT OPEN.

IF YOU HAVE SMALLER NEEDS FOR WHO KNOWS AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM, SENIOR PROGRAM OR CLASS SITUATION YOU COULD MAKE IT SMALLER OR IF THERE IS ANOTHER PANDEMIC IN THE FUTURE THAT COULD YOU COULD EVEN HAVE TESTING OR VACCINE ADMINISTRATION OR WHATEVER WOULD BE NEEDED BUT WE WANTED TO DO IT AT A PARK SO THAT ALSO CAN DOUBLE AS RECREATIONAL FACILITY FOR THOSE SAME REASONS THAT I JUST SAID YOU KNOW AS WE ALL KNOW WE JUST TORE AND DEMOLISHED THE MAJOR CENTER BECAUSE IT WAS MOLD INFESTED BUT IT WAS RELATIVELY SMALL, MUCH SMALLER THAN WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED HERE. SO IF THERE'S 3630 8000 SQUARE FOOT IN THE FULL SPACE THEN I, I I WOULD I WOULD SUPPORT THAT FOR THE ARGUMENTS MADE HERE. WE WE HAVE A RELATIVELY SMALL COMMUNITY AND THAT'S MAJOR AND IN WITH PARKS DIRECTOR MR. BROWN HE AND I BOTH BELIEVE THAT THIS THIS IS A BASE FOR AGENT MAJOR SO I DON'T I CAN'T SPEAK FOR AS AN ELEMENT I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MOVE THIS FORWARD FOR NEXT MAJOR PORTION.

SO THIS WAS DECIDED UPON AN ARC FOR OUR QUARTER OF 2022 WHEN WE WHEN COUNCIL RECEIVED THE FUNDING IT WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL PROJECTS THE MONEY CAME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS I. YES MA'AM. RIGHT SO IT SAYS NATIONAL PARK

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OH, THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. SO YOU'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD IS THIS COMMUNITY CENTER THE SAME ONE WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY SERVICES MEETING A COUPLE COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO? NO, THIS IS SEPARATE THIS IS A DIFFERENT OKAY.

SO THIS IS FOR THE HEALTH OR THIS IS FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT CAN BE MULTI-USE AT THESE TWO PARKS FOR COMMUNITY MEETINGS SENIOR PROGRAMING, AFTERSCHOOL SUMMER CAMP OR EVEN RECREATION LEAGUE ACTIVITIES OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. MR. TERRELL HERE TALKING ABOUT THE HEALTH A HEALTH FACILITY OR SOMETHING. RIGHT.

I EXPLAINED IT TO HIM. THAT'S WHAT WE DID. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION WHERE EXACTLY? SOMEONE KNOWS THAT I KNOW WHERE ALL THESE INCIDENCES SMOKE WHAT ROAD? OH YEAH.

OKAY. WE OWN THE LAND, RIGHT? YES MA'AM? THINK IT'S A NICE PARK THIS NICE PLACE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A BUILDING THAT YOU CAN REALLY DO SOMETHING IN. SO WE WERE IN CURRENT JUST AS AN ASIDE WE HAVE PIECE CURRENTLY OUT TO DO IMPROVEMENTS AT OTHER PARKS THIS.

THESE TWO FACILITIES ARE BOTH NICE PARKS AND GOOD PARTS OF THE COUNTY THAT NEED SERVICES. SO MR. GLOVER WE HEARD FROM MR. DODSON WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THE FEELINGS? I THINK IT'S JUST INADEQUATE SPACING.

I THINK WE 6000 SEEMS TO BE A GOOD NUMBER TO WORK WITH. THAT'S ALL.

WELL I WOULD TELL MR. GLOVER'S POINT I WOULD OPENLY ADMIT THAT IT'S AN ILLNESS, A MUCH LARGER RESIDENTIAL AREA AND POPULATION WHAT WE HAVE IN CHILDREN. AND SO I UNDERSTAND HIS CONCERN THAT HAVING BEEN SAID THEN I WOULD ASK THAT WE SEPARATE THIS PROJECT AND MOVE ONE FORWARD WHILE WE DEAL WITH YOU ALL. I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE MENTION THAT I KNOW THERE DOES THE SENIOR CENTER ON HILL THAT'S PRETTY ACTIVE SO WE WE HAVE SENIOR SERVICES THERE A DELIVERY CENTER AND ALSO IT'S GOT GOT YOU KNOW SO BY BY NOT MOVING ONE OF THE PROJECTS FORWARD WE THEN RUN THE RISK OF NOT MEETING THE I WOULD DISAGREE WITH MR. DAWSON THAT I THINK HE SHOULD MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD. WE WILL VOTE AGAINST IT, THAT'S ALL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO AGREE WITH MR. DAWSON ON MOVING THEM BOTH FORWARD.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE SIT RIGHT NOW IS IS IT IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS FORWARD SO WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION IS ANY MORE DISCUSSION SO NO DISCUSSION WE WILL MOVE THIS FORWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION IS THERE AN OBJECTION JUST ONE ONE OBJECTION. THE OTHER OBJECTIONS SIR IF YOU CAN NOTE MR. GLOVER'S OBJECTION THIS WOULD BE MORE MOVE FOR THEM TO COUNSEL AGAIN. COUNSEL WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS

[12. DISCUSSION OF THE 2025 COMMITTEE AND COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING CALENDAR]

IT HAS TO BE DONE BY NOVEMBER. THE ONLY THING LIKE REAL QUICK TO SAY COMMITTEE MEANS THAT WE CONSIDER THE ONE WHERE WE START OUR MEETINGS AT SIX THEN WE NEED TO START THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS THEN FOR NUMBER THREE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE START COMMITTEE FOR ANY MEETINGS AT SIX AS AN OPTION I WITH YOU AND I HAVE ONE OTHER SUGGESTION SO I TO OUR COURT THE COURT COUNSEL WE DO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ALTERNATE THAT WAS JUST PLACED WITH US WE ROTATE OUT OF THIS OFFICE PLACE ONCE A QUARTER SO ONCE A I'M GOING TO SUGGEST WHEN WE TAKE THAT SHOW ON THE ROAD IT'S YOU CALLS IT THAT SHOULD BE SOUTH OF THE BROAD BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL NORTH OF THE BROAD AND IF WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO ONE A QUARTER WE SHOULD MOVE SOUTH OF THE BROAD FOUR THAT'S ONLY FOUR TIMES A YEAR AND WE HAVE IT AT SAINT HELENA THEN IT WOULD ONLY BE TWICE YEAR FOR SOUTH OF RIGHT SO MY RECOMMENDATION BE TO CHANGE IT WHEN WE'RE ON THE ROAD SO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT WE GO BETWEEN HEAD LIBRARY AND BUCKWALTER. THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THE TB.

THAT'S MY NICE FOR ANY MORE DISCUSSION I'LL BE GIVING THEM TO ALL RIGHT SO YOU LIKE IT SO AGAIN IF YOU LOOK AT THE TENTATIVE SCHEDULE WE HAVE AND AGAIN THIS WOULD GO TO COUNTY COUNCIL AS WELL FOR APPROVAL IS THAT WE HAVE MOVING OUR MEETINGS TO 6 P.M. IS THE

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[13. BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPOINTMENTS & REAPPOINTMENTS]

I'D ASK FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE THOSE ALL AT ONE TIME IF THEY WERE ALL GOING TO THROW A WRINKLE THERE. OKAY. AND ACTUALLY ASK THAT THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT UTILITY BOARD BE REMOVED SEPARATELY WOULD BE TAKEN SEPARATELY ON THAT ONE. RIGHT. SO THERE IS A MOTION AS OUR SECOND TO THAT EXECUTIVE FOR DISCUSSION YEAH FOR OKAY FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES MR. MITCHELL ACTUALLY LATE GETTING HIS REAPPOINTMENT PAPERWORK IN WE HAD ALREADY BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE MORNING PRESS NOW IN MY OLD LADY'S ISLAND THE COUNTY HAD BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM HE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED SIGNIFICANT FLOODING IN OWN PROPERTY DURING HURRICANE DEBBY AND I THOUGHT HE WOULD BE A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THAT POSITION AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY HAD COMMUNICATED WITH HIM AND MR. MITCHELL WAS LATE GETTING THE THREE APPOINTMENT PAPERWORK IN, I THOUGHT HE WOULD BE A GOOD CANDIDATE TO GET IN BUT THE FACT HE'S NOT CONSIDERED HERE I THINK IS A BIT FRUSTRATING BUT I UNDERSTAND BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT EFFORT I'D LIKE TO MENTION MR. MITCHELL WAS OUT OF TOWN WHEN THE WHEN THE PAPERWORK WAS SENT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE STORMWATER BOARD SPOKE VERY HIGHLY CRITICAL OF MIKE. SO AGAIN THAT YES I'LL SPEAK UP THANK YOU MR. MITCHELL WAS OUT OF WHEN THE PAPERWORK WAS SENT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE STORMWATER WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF MR. MITCHELL AND THAT I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT HE'S BEEN ON IT A LONG TIME AND HAS A GOOD VERY GOOD ATTENDANCE. I GO TO THOSE MEETINGS AND SO MR. MITCHELL APOLOGIZE BUT HE SAID HE HAD BEEN OUT OF TOWN AND HE WAS APOLOGETIC ABOUT NOT GETTING THE PAPERWORK IN AND SO THE CHAIRMAN WAS A WANTED TO SEE HIM RENOMINATED TO JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

SO WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT WE WOULD HANDLE THE ONE APPOINTMENT SEPARATELY.

THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION. WE WILL GO AHEAD VOTE ON THAT. BUT I'LL SECOND I SECONDED FOR DISCUSSION. YES. ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT SO THERE'S A SECOND WE A FIRST AND A SECOND. SO THE AT HAND IS WHETHER WE GOING TO TAKE ALL THESE AT ONCE OR SEPARATE THEM OUT AND PULL OUT THE REAPPOINTMENT TO THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BOARD IS IS IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO DOING WHAT MR. BARTHOLOMEW HAS ? WOULD WE THEN JUST THE WAY ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON TAKING THE FIRST ONE AND THEN WE HAVE TO DECIDE ON THE SECOND ONE BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE NOMINEE SO WE'D HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO FINANCE.

OKAY. I'M OKAY OVER THAT. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO WE HAVE NOW SEPARATED THEM SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THE FIRST ONES. SO THE FIRST GROUP EXCLUDING THE STORMWATER WE NEED A MOTION

[02:10:02]

ALL RIGHT. AND IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION SO YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION WHERE WE WILL THEN ACCEPT THE APPOINTEES OF THAT HAS BEEN LISTED EXCEPT FOR THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BOARD THEY WILL BE PUSHED TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND THEN THAT LEAVES US THEN THE STORMWATER AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE POSTPONE THAT TO THE NEXT OR WE CAN MOVE TO AMENDMENT MANAGEMENT. WELL I'D PEOPLE TO SEE THE APPLICATIONS IF THEY COME FORWARD AS IT WOULD BE TO THE CHANCE TO AND I'D LIKE FOR I WOULD I WOULD TO THAT WE NEED TO DEFER IT UNTIL WE CAN SERIOUSLY CONSIDER BOTH IF WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER BOTH SO THAT'S GOING TO BE CONSIDERED I MEAN IF YOU DON'T YOU KNOW SO THAT WAS A YEAH A MOTION MADE IN THE SECOND TO A DATE CERTAIN FOR THE NEXT FINANCE YOU SHOULD ASK THEM TO DO SECOND THAT WE'RE I GO BACK TO MR. DAWSON I THOUGHT YOU HAD PUT YOUR HAND UP THE SECOND SO THERE HAS BEEN ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT SO WHAT THE MOTION IS IS TO MOVE THE REAPPOINTMENT FOR MANAGEMENT TO THE NEXT MEETING WHICH THEN WOULD HAVE MR. PATRICK MITCHELL HAS A CANDIDATE AND I'M SORRY MR. YES . MR. MITCHELL AND THEN A SECOND CANDIDATE AT THAT TIME BUT WHOEVER WHETHER OR CANDIDATES WE HAVE WOULD LOOK AT THAT AT THAT POINT. RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? NO, NO SEEING NO OBJECTION THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED. IS THERE ANYTHING TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL? YOU JUST BE IT WAS MOVED TO THE NEXT FINANCE COMMITTEE? YES. YES. LIKE ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE WOULD COME FROM THIS COMMITTEE? WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENTS ARE WE HAVE GONE LATE IN THE NEXT COUNCIL. THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING WILL START PROBABLY IN 10 MINUTES SO 522 IS THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH EVERYBODY

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.