[1. Call to Order]
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          GOOD AFTERNOON I LIKE TO CALL THIS TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF WHAT IS IT OCTOBER 15TH 2024 ALREADY TO ALL OF YOU JOIN US IN SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL YOU'LL CONTINUE WHILE WE HAVE FATHER ALAN MCDONALD FROM HOLY FAMILY CATHOLIC CHURCH TO GIVE US THE IMMIGRATION LET US PRAY ALMIGHTY GOD GIVE YOU THANKS AND PRAISE. YOU ARE LOVING AND GOOD AND GRACIOUS THANK YOU FOR CREATING US AND SUSTAINING US DAY BY DAY THANK YOU THAT YOU MADE US AND MADE US IN IMAGE TO EXIST IN COMMUNITY WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND TO SEEK THE COMMON GOOD THROUGH ETHICAL AND MORAL MEANS. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND THANK YOU FOR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THE, BUSINESSES, THE CHURCHES, THE FAMILIES, THE VISITORS AND THE INDIVIDUAL THAT MAKE OUR TOWN THE GREAT PLACE IT IS LORD GOD WE ASK TO BLESS THIS MEETING AND ALL HERE PRESENT HELP OUR POLITICAL LEADERS AND OTHERS WORKING FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY TO RELY UPON INSPIRATION AND GUIDANCE HELP THEM TO MAKE HILTON HEAD ISLAND A PLACE OF WELCOME AND INCLUSION AND A PLACE FOR ALL EXPERIENCE THE GRANDEUR OF GOD AND NATURE AND HUMAN WELCOME AND KINDNESS BLESS AND PROTECT ALL THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING TO THE HURRICANES THAT HAVE AFFECTED SO MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHEAST PROTECT US FROM THE FURY OF HURRICANES AND TEACH US TO USE COMMON SENSE NATURAL AND MANMADE DANGERS APPROACH BLESS ALL US WITH THE GIFT OF FAITH, HOPE AND LOVE AS WE STRIVE TO LIVE TOGETHER PEACE AND SECURITY AND GOOD STEWARDS OF ALL THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN WE PRAY THIS IN YOUR HOLY NAME FOR YOU WHO LIVE IN RAIN FOREVER AND EVER AMEN. AMEN. THANK FATHER. 
          [4. Adoption of the Agenda]
MR. ORLANDO, DO YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES CORRECTIONS TO THE TO THE AGENDA? NO, SIR. I'M OKAY WITH THAT IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE AGENDA AS SUBMITTED OVER SECOND MR. ALFRED ALL THOSE IN 
          [5. Approval of the Minutes]
FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES WORKSHOP MINUTES OF 16TH 2020 FOR REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 2020 FOR WORKSHOP MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 1220 FOURTH 2024 AND REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2024. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT MOVE THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CITED IN THE WORKSHOPS AS CITED BY THE MAYOR I HAVE THE SECOND BACKER ANY DISCUSSION SAYING ALL THOSE IN 
          [6. Presentations and Recognitions]
FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO. MR. ORLANDO DO YOU ANY REPORT FOR US TODAY? EXCUSE ME? YES, I DO. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC I HAVE A FEW THINGS TODAY SO BEAR WITH ME EVERY EVERY MONTH I ASK DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR SOME ITEMS OF INTEREST AND THIS MONTH A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM GOT BACK TO ME WITH SOME SOME GREAT SOME GREAT FEEDBACK SO I'M HAPPY THAT WITH WITH YOU ALL TODAY SO HURRICANE HELENE OUR HEARTS AND PRAYERS ARE GO OUT TO EVERYBODY IMPACTED BY EILEEN AS WELL AS THE OTHER STORMS THROUGHOUT THE MONTHS HERE ON THE ISLAND AFTER ASSESSING THE DAMAGE BY HELENE IT WAS DECIDED UPON TO OPEN A TREE AND LANDSCAPE DEBRIS SITE TO ASSIST RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WITH CLEANUP WE SAT IN OUR CONFERENCE ROOM AND STARTED JUST THINKING THROUGH WHAT OUR WHAT OUR RESIDENTS AND WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          WITHIN 24 HOURS SHAWN LEININGER WHO'S IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM WITH HIS TEAM SET UP THEY ORGANIZED COMMUNICATED AND MADE AN OPERATIONAL DROP OFF SITE AT COASTAL DISCOVERY MUSEUM. 
          WE COLLECTED OVER FIVE DAYS 4560 CUBIC YARDS AND SEVEN TRUCKLOADS OF DEBRIS. 
          SO A BIG THANK YOU TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR TRUSTING US IN THAT AND. 
          A BIG THANK YOU TO SHAWN AND TEAM FOR SETTING THAT UP ESPECIALLY IN A TIME OF CRISIS SURROUNDING US. OUR GREAT INTERNET OUTAGE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR I.T. TOM SUN, JACOB DEUEL, A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHERS MAYOR AND COUNCIL THIS TO YOU ON SEPTEMBER 23RD OUR GREAT EXPERIENCE INTERNET CONNECTIVITY OUTAGE THAT IMPACTED A LARGE PART THE LARGE PARTS OF THE SOUTHEAST I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE I WAS AT MY DESK WORKING AND WE HAD ABOUT 10 SECONDS OF DISCONNECT AND WE WERE RIGHT BACK CONNECTED OUR REDUNDANT NETWORK 
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SO OUR RECENT INVESTMENTS IN THAT REDUNDANCY RESULTED IN OUR FAILED INTERNET CONNECTION SWITCHING WITHIN WITHIN THOSE 10 SECONDS WITHOUT THIS WE WOULD HAVE WOUND DOWN WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO OUR JOBS AND OR CONNECT INTERNALLY AS WELL AS EXTERNALLY. SO THANK YOU TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT INVESTMENT AND THE SUPPORT THANK YOU TO OUR GREAT I.T TEAM. FIRE RESCUE A BIT BACK TO THE STORMS ETF FOR HILTON HEAD BLUFFTON URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE TEAM WAS DEPLOYED TO GREENVILLE COUNTY TO HELP WITH SEARCH AND RESCUE THE DAMAGE AND HUMANITARIAN AID SO CHIEF BLANKENSHIP TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND TO THE TO ALL THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT THANK FOR BEING SO WILLING READY AND ABLE ONE ON THE PHONES ON THE PHONES RINGING THE CALLS COME OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER TOM DUNN WAS ALSO DEPLOYED TO ANDERSON COUNTY THROUGH A STATE RESOURCE REQUEST. SO TOM ACTED AS THE OPERATIONS SECTOR SECTION CHIEF AND ANDERSON COUNTY IN THEIR EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER TO GIVE THEIR TEAM A COUPLE OF DAYS RELIEF SO GREAT NEWS AND A BIG APPRECIATION TO HIM AS WELL TONIGHT A 530 SAW THEM WRAP THIS UP AND NOT TALK MUCH LONGER. TONIGHT THE KICKOFF CELEBRATION FOR CRESCENDO OCCURS SHELTER COVE COMMUNITY PARK 530 TO 730 JUNIOR JAZZ ALL-STARS STEPHENS AND GRAMMY AWARD WINNING WINNER CHARLTON SINGLETON PERFORMING THIS IS THE EIGHTH ANNUAL CRESCENDO IT RUNS THROUGH ALREADY STARTED BUT THEY KICK OFF TONIGHT IT RUNS THROUGH OCTOBER 23RD AND IT IS SPONSORED BY THE TOWN'S OFFICE OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND. SO A THANK YOU TO NATALIE TO THE ARTS COUNCIL AND EVERY SINGLE PERSON INVOLVED IF YOU HAVEN'T PICKED UP ONE OF THESE THEY'RE AROUND. THEY'RE ALSO ON LINE. I TOOK A LOOK AT IT ONLINE AS WELL AS I HAVE THIS HARD COPY HERE SO CAMERAS AND AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS TO PICK UP SO GREAT PUBLICATION AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT FOR NOW 
          [7. Reports from Members of Town Council]
THANK YOU. ANY GENERAL REPORTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WAS PRESENT SIR THANKS FOR MENTIONING CRESCENDO THE JAZZ ARTS ALLSTARS WILL BE PERFORMING TONIGHT AND AN ALL STAR FAMILY IS GOING TO BE JOINING THEM. MY HUSBAND SCOTT CAMP IS A PIANIST WHO'S GOING TO BE WORKING WITH HIGH SCHOOL KIDS PLAYING IT SO ANY ANYBODY WANTS TO LEAVE TO GET THERE BY 530 IS OKAY. BUT ANYHOW THERE WAS A GREAT COUPLE OF CONCERTS AND CINEASTE SPONSORED BY THE JUNIOR JAZZ FOUNDATION, A GREAT ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS KIDS AND MUSIC AND AND HELPS THEM LEARN TO PLAY INSTRUMENTS TO PERFORM. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO PARTICIPATE AND ALL THE CRESCENDO EVENTS AS YOU NOTICED TODAY WE'RE WEARING PINK UP HERE. 
          IT'S CANCER AWARENESS MONTH. AND JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS I'M FOR THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW FOR PLEDGE SPEAK AT GREEN PARK ON SUNDAY OCTOBER 20TH I'M WALKING WITH A GROUP FROM GYM VOLUNTEERS CALLED A VITAMIN VIGOR GROUP TO RAISE MONEY. 
          IT'S PERSONAL WITH ME. BOTH MY GRANDMOTHERS ARE CANCER SURVIVORS MY SISTER FIVE YEARS A CANCER SURVIVOR SO IT IS PERSONAL WITH ME. I'VE LOST A COUPLE OF FRIENDS TO CANCER SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO SUPPORT CANCER AWARENESS TO GET SCREENED AND ALSO TO SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS TRYING TO FIGHT CANCER. AND THEN LASTLY THE ASSOCIATION FOR MENTAL ILLNESS IS ALSO HAVING A WALK AND PARTICIPATING AGAIN I LOVE TO WALK BUT I ALSO LOVE TO SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE FIGHTING AND HELPING FOLKS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND THAT IS GOING TO BE SATURDAY OCTOBER THE 26TH. SO THANK YOU MAN. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER GENERAL REPORTS? ALL RIGHT SEEING NON WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMITTEE REPORTS REPORTS FOR THE LOWCOUNTRY AREA TRANSPORTATION STUDY MR. SANFORD YES YOU MAYOR THE LAST TRANSPORTATION STUDY GROUP MET ON OCTOBER THE FOURTH PROBABLY OF GREATEST INTEREST TO THIS GROUP IS THAT THERE WAS A NOW SPLIT ABOUT THE 278 CAR PROJECT AND THAT IS THAT NATIONAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION HAS ACCEPTED THE PLAN AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING GETTING THE FONZI THE FINDING OF NO SIGNIFICA THIS MONTH SO THAT WILL MEAN THAT THE PROJECT WILL BE READY FORWARD THEN OTHER GENERAL PROJECTS GOING TO BE SOME SIGNAL RE TIMING IN MAJOR HIGHWAYS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THERE ARE SAFETY ACTION PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED OVER 140 PROJECTS WHICH WILL REQUIRE THE FUNDING FROM THE PENNY SALES TAX THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING BEFORE THE VOTERS IN 
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NOVEMBER. NCDOT HAS COMPLETED FOR THE FIRST SECTION OF THE IMPROVEMENT OF I-95 FROM THE GEORGIA BORDER UP TO SECTION EIGHT THE MAIN EXIT THAT INCLUDES A A NUMBER OF BRIDGE PROJECTS IS A MAJOR UNDERTAKING BUT THE PLAN IS TO IMPROVE I-95 RATHER ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA BORDER. SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. REPORT ARE THE LOWCOUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS MOSBACHER AND DO NOT A REPORT OKAY THANK YOU MR. RAIN IF WE'RE COUNTING AIRPORTS NO REPORT THANK YOU SO LOCO I WILL TAKE THAT REPORT AND I MISSED THE FIRST PART OF THE MEETING FOR THE LOCO SOUTHERN LOWCOUNTRY REGIONAL BOARD MEETING BUT THERE WAS AN UPDATE FROM BEAUFORT BEAUFORT JASPER HOUSING I DID COACH AT THE END OF THEIR MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME SOME ALLOCATIONS OF FUNDS WE ARE WORKING TO GET A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH THEM THAT WE CAN HAVE A PRESENTATION DONE HERE AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN BE BROUGHT UP TO SPEED. 
          THERE WERE TWO OTHER COMMITTEES THAT REPORTED AND THAT ONE WAS THE CHILD CARE SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          THEY'RE JUST IN THE EARLY STAGES OF FORMATION AND TRYING TO BUILD THEIR DIRECTIVES TO MOVE FORWARD AND THEN THE LAST WAS A LETTER SUBCOMMITTEE WHICH THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON THAT AND THIS MONTH THEY WILL HAVE ANOTHER REPORT FROM THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LITTER COMMITTEE. SOME WILL LOOK OUT FOR THAT MOVING FORWARD. 
          MR. BROWN ISLAND RECREATION ASSOCIATION THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          HILTON ISLAND RECREATION HOST OF A VERY SUCCESSFUL PARKS AND REC FORUM ON OCTOBER 30TH AT THE ISLAND REC CENTER, THE ASSOCIATION WAS VERY PLEASED TO HEAR THE VIEWS OF OUR CANDIDATES FOR THE FUTURE OF PARKS AND RECREATION. THE ASSOCIATION ALSO HOSTED ISLAND THIS PAST WEEKEND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE KIWANIS CLUB OF HILTON HEAD AND ITS CHILI COOK OFF HAD A GREAT SUCCESS AND WONDERFUL WHETHER THEY ARE GRATEFUL THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CONNORS CLUB TO HOST AN AMAZING EVENT TO BENEFIT BOTH ORGANIZATIONS. 
          THAT'S MY REPORT SIR YOU SIR MISS BECKER COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE HAVE NOT HAD A MEETING SINCE MY LAST REPORT SO NOTHING. NOTHING THEN. 
          THANK YOU, MR. ANSELL. A PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE REPORT AND THE MR. BROWN 
          [8.a. Consideration of an Ordinance to Amend the Town of Hilton Head Island Budget for the Fiscal Year Ending June 30, 2025; to Provide for the Budgeted Appropriations of the Prior Year Budget Roll Forward and Certain Other Appropriations and Commitments and the Expenditures of Certain Funds; to Allocate the Sources of Revenue for the Said Funds; and to Provide for Severability and an Effective Date - Second and Final Reading - Adriana Burnett, Finance Director]
FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE. THANK YOU. NEXT WE WILL MOVE ON TO UNFINISHED. WE HAVE THE SECOND AND FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE HILTON HOTEL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30TH 2025 COUNSEL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO PASS THIS ON FIRST READING ON OCTOBER FIRST THIS IS BURNETT COME ON UP GOOD AFTERNOON TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS TOWN MANAGER IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE AGAIN THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF OUR 2025 BUDGET AMENDMENT SINCE LAST TIME I WAS HERE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST READING THERE ARE NO NEW CHANGES. IT'S STILL THE NUMBERS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN ARE STILL THE SAME NUMBERS. SO I RECOMMEND FOR YOU TO APPROVE THE MOTION TO PASS THE THE 2025 BUDGET AMENDMENTS. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GOT EMOTIONAL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IF WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP NO PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION JUST MAY I COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30TH 2025 TO PROVIDE FOR THE BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS OF THE YEAR BUDGET ROLL FORWARD AND CERTAIN OTHER APPROPRIATIONS COMMITMENTS AND THE EXPENDITURES OF CERTAIN FUNDS TO ALLOCATE THE SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR THE SAID FUNDS AND TO PROVIDE FOR AND EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THIS IS THE SECOND AND FINAL READING OF SECOND ON THAT MOTION SECOND ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL SEEING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND SO MOVED SEVEN ZERO THAT'S CONSIDERATION A RESOLUTION FOR BEACH PARTY PARKING FEE 
          [8.b. Consideration of a Resolution Adopting a Beach Parking Fee Schedule - Shawn Leininger, Assistant Town Manager]
SCHEDULE MR. LANIER WILL MAKE THAT PRESENTATION THE WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 17TH WITH 85 TO 2 5 TO 2 VOTE. MR. LINNEGAR, IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN TO SERVE YOU CALL AND SEAN, AT THE LAST MEETING THE TOWN COUNCIL VOTED TO PLACE THIS ITEM BACK ON THE AGENDA. 
          IF YOU'D LIKE MR. LINNEGAR TO DOVE IN AND GO OVER THE PRESENTATION FROM LAST TIME HE 
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CAN DO THAT. JOSH HAS BEEN JOSH GROUPER WHOSE LAST ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY IS TOMORROW HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS. I SIMPLY ASK YOU RIGHT NOW FOR SOME CLARITY ON WHAT WHAT YOU LIKE US TO DOVE INTO FROM THE RESOLUTIONS PERSPECTIVE TODAY. 
          YEAH SO SO WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL THAT WE NOT RESCIND MOTION THAT WAS MADE ON THE 17TH OF SEPTEMBER AND VOTED 5 TO 2 IT IS ABOUT MR. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN JUST A MOMENT BUT IT IS ABOUT HAVING A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF PARKING ISSUES ALL THE WAY AROUND WITHIN THE BUSINESS DISTRICT OF HOPE AVENUE IN THE COLONIA COLONIA TO LIGNE DISTRICT AREA. 
          AND IF I COULD ADDRESS THAT FOR A MOMENT, CAN WE PUT UP THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS ADOPTED ON THE SCREEN? CLARK I SHOULD SAY THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS SIGNED I DID HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS IF YOU LOOK IN A SECOND WHEREAS IT SAYS THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TOWN'S COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ARE AS ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AND ARE AS STATED AS SUCH BELOW THAT EXIST IN THIS RESOLUTION THAT WAS ADOPTED. SECONDLY THE NEXT WHEREAS. 
          WHEREAS AFTER DETERMINING WHICH OPTIONS THE COUNCIL WISHES TO ADOPT, THIS RESOLUTION WILL BE AMENDED TO REFLECT THESE SELECTIONS PRIOR TO ITS EXECUTION. 
          THAT IS IS NOT APPROPRIATE EITHER GO BACK TO THE FIRST WHEREAS IT SAYS THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH PARKING FEES WITHIN PAID PARKING AREAS TO SECTION 12 DASH 6-1 12 WHICH DID NOT EXIST WHEN THIS RESOLUTION WAS SIGNED IN ADDITION UNDER SECTION ONE, SUBSECTION A REFERS TO CALLED THE POPE AVENUE BUSINESS CORRIDOR NO SUCH DEFINITION EXIST SUBSECTION SAYS DURING ALL SEASONS FOR USE FOR RECREATIONAL NO SUCH DEFINITION EXIST AS THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED ALSO IS MADE BY MOTION AND THE CODE WHICH WAS ADOPTED SAYS THAT IT'S TO BE ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION THESE QUESTIONS THAT I RAISED HAVE NOT YET BEEN ANSWERED AND I THINK BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH ANYTHING FURTHER WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ADDRESSED. 
          MR. GOLDRING, COULD YOU ADDRESS MRS. BRYSON'S QUESTIONS IF YOU WOULD COME UP UPFRONT IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL. MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I'M CURTIS COLTRANE LOOKING AT THE RESOLUTION AND BEGINNING AT THE TOP THE WELL IT ON THE BOTTOM THIS RESOLUTION BECOMES EFFECTIVE BY ITS TERMS ON THE 1ST OF JANUARY 2025 THE CODE SECTION THAT IS REFERENCED IN THE FIRST RECITAL ALSO BECOMES ON JANUARY ONE, 2025. SO AT THE TIME THAT EACH OF THESE DOCUMENTS BECOMES EFFECTIVE BOTH WILL EXIST AT THE SAME TIME IN THE SAME PLACE . I DON'T I DON'T SEE THAT AS AN ISSUE NUMBER TWO AND THREE. 
          THE RECITALS IS HOW MR. GRUBER PUT IT TOGETHER. DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN THEY'RE NOT BINDING THEY'RE THE RECITALS. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE ANY REAL IMPACT ON WHAT IS IN THE BODY OF THE RESOLUTION ITSELF WITH RESPECT TO THE RESOLUTION ITSELF THE AVNER POPE AVENUE BUSINESS CORRIDOR I MEAN I AGREE THERE'S A STATED DEFICIT DEFINITION OF IT IN THE RESOLUTION AS I UNDERSTOOD THE CONVERSATION THOUGH I THOUGHT THERE APPEARED TO BE GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT POPE AVENUE EAST OF CAUDILLO PARKWAY MEANING SECTION THERE IS AT THIS MOMENT ONE PARKING LOT OWNED BY THE TOWN THAT IS POPE AVENUE EAST OF CAUDILLO AND THAT IS THE ONE THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS TEXT PARKING IT CHAPLIN BEACH PARK AGAIN THIS IS THE THE TEXT OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AS MADE BY MR. BROWN. I MEAN I AGREE THAT THERE WAS NO EFFORT MADE TO DEFINE THAT OBVIOUSLY ISLAND REC CENTER RUNS THAT STUFF THE EXTENT THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT CAN BE 
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ARRANGED THROUGH COMMUNICATION THE ISLAND REC CENTER AS TO WHEN THE YOUTH SPORTS ARE SO IT'S HARD DISAGREE THAT DEFINING SOMETIMES IS BETTER THAN NOT DEFINING BUT I THINK THE PROCESS IS IN PLACE TO WHERE THE TOWN KNOW WHEN THOSE ARE ON I THINK THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THEN THE OTHER THE OTHER QUESTION WAS ADOPTED BY A MOTION NOT NOT BY A RESOLUTION. 
          WELL IT IS A RESOLUTION THERE WAS A RESOLUTION PLACED ON THE TABLE. 
          MR. BROWN MOVED TO AMEND IT AND WHAT IS BEFORE YOU IS THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS MADE AS AMENDED. I MEAN IF THE PROBLEM IS IS THAT IT WAS ORAL THE CODE DIDN'T REQUIRE RESOLUTIONS TO BE IN WRITING THIS ONE IS AND IT'S BETTER WHEN THEY ARE BUT THERE WAS ACTUALLY A RESOLUTION SENT BEFORE US IT WAS NOT AMENDED BY A MOTION. 
          INSTEAD THERE WAS A AND THE CODE THAT WAS ADOPTED THE CODE AMENDMENT THAT WAS ADOPTED REQUIRES IT TO BE A RESOLUTION WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN SET BEFORE US. 
          SO MAYOR I WOULD REQUEST NOT GOING TO ASK THAT WE REVOKED THE INTENT OF THIS BUT I THIS RESOLUTION NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE PART OF OUR RECORDS AND I JUST DON'T THINK THIS APPROPRIATELY DRAFTED TO BE PART OF OUR PUBLIC RECORDS. 
          DULY NOTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. MR. JAMES, YOU HEARD SOMETHING ? YES. AT AT OUR PRIOR MEETING A WAS MADE AND APPROVED BY MAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO DISCUSS FORMING A WORKING GROUP TO DISCUSS AND UNDERSTAND AT A HIGHER LEVEL THE CALLING THE POPE AVENUE AREA PARKING ENVIRONMENT AND IF I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES OKAY YOU CAN DO THAT THEN I'LL CALL ON HIM TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I MOVE COUNCIL REQUESTS THE AND TOWN MANAGER FORM AN AD HOC WORKING GROUP WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF STUDYING THE CLEANING POPE AVENUE AREA ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE WILL BE COMPRISED OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE TOWN INCLUDING THE WARD THREE REPRESENTATIVE AND BUSINESS OWNERS OF THE AREA THE COMMITTEE WILL BE AN EVEN NUMBER NO LESS THAN FOUR AND NO GREATER THAN SIX MEMBERS EQUALLY DIVIDED BETWEEN THE TOWN AND BUSINESS OWNERS IT WILL BE THE COMMITTEE'S TO IDENTIFY RELEVANT RELEVANT DATA OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE CAPACITY DISTRIBUTION, COST ENFORCEMENT, POTENTIAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AMONG NEEDS IT MAY RAISE THE COMMITTEE WILL PRESENT ITS REPORT ON OR BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. IS THERE A SECOND MR. ALFRED ANY ANY DISCUSSION OR ANYBODY SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS? NO PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS THE SPEAKER TIME WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AT OUR LAST MEETING I WAS CONFUSED AND I GUESS I STILL AM I'M I'M A LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS THAT ARE TO BE DISCUSSED WITHIN WITHIN A GROUP TASK FORCE ON THE ISSUES IN THE CLONEE AREA AND I'M NOT AT THIS POINT GIVEN THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO INSTITUTE A PAID PARKING PROGRAM THERE WHY WHY IT'S PART OF THIS DISCUSSION I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY WORTH HAVING THE DISCUSSION AMONG THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND ALL INVOLVED. I HAD ACTUALLY SAID THAT A YEAR AGO NOTHING CAME OF IT AND AT THIS 12 HOUR WHY NOW THE PUSH BY THE SAME COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE THEN THERE AT THAT CONVERSATION SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE PERHAPS FROM MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THE MOTION MAKER WHAT'S THE GOAL AND INTENT? WHAT IS WHAT TRYING TO DO HERE? IF SOMEONE CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO ME IT MIGHT HELP. THANK YOU MR. STAFFORD. 
          I THINK THAT IT'S VITAL FOR THE TOWN TO ESTABLISH CLEAR WORKING WITH THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE AREA WHO WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE TOWN PARK PARKING. SO TO ME IT JUST MAKES COMPLETE SENSE FOR TO GIVE INPUT IN AN ORGANIZED WAY FROM THAT GROUP. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. CRAWFORD THE PARKING SITUATION AND CLAIMING PROBLEM IN YOUR IS 
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CURRENTLY A PROBLEM HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME ABOUT CUSTOMERS NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND TO SHOP AT THE STORES BECAUSE THEIR PLACES HAVE BEEN FILLED UP WITH PEOPLE USING THE BEACH. SO WE HAVE PRESENTLY A PROBLEM AND HAVE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE DESIRING TO PARK AND FROM ENGAGING SHOPKEEPERS ABOUT CUSTOMERS NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE PROMPT ACCESS TO THE STORES. 
          SO THERE'S AN EXISTING PROBLEM AND THE ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION THAT WE ADOPTED IN THE LAST MEETING DEALS WITH PARKING AREAS OTHER THAN THIS ONE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE EXISTING PROBLEM? TO ME THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS STUDY AND OTHER COMMENTS AS PERSON OR AS SORT OF AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT COMMITTEE DISCUSSED THIS FOR SOME TIME THE PRIOR TOWN COUNCIL HAD ALSO DISCUSSED WHAT TO DO ABOUT PARKING IN THIS AREA AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT PARKING IN OUR OTHER BEACH PARKING AREAS IN ORDER TO LOOK BACK AT WHAT SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT THE CHALLENGE IS, I LOOK BACK AT VIDEOS OF THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS FROM 2023 THROUGH 2024 AND AS EARLY MARCH 20 OF 23 2023 LAST YEAR THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FEES BEING ESTABLISHED BY RESOLUTION AND NOT IN THE ORDINANCE AND ALSO I EXPRESS A CONCERN ABOUT BALANCING OF INTEREST ESPECIALLY IN THE NEW AREA AND ASKED STAFF TO HELP WITH HOW TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BALANCE THOSE INTEREST. 
          I ALSO MENTIONED AT THE TIME THE NEED FOR RESIDENTS IN NORTH AND SOUTH FOREST BEACH AREA TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. AT THAT SAME MEETING JACK DALY WHO IS STILL PRESIDENT OF THE FOREST BEACH OWNERS ASSOCIATION WHO LIVES IN SOUTH FOREST BEACH HAS A BUSINESS IN NORTH BEACH, MENTIONED CHALLENGES WITH WHAT HAD REFERRED TO AT THAT MEETING AS LEAD OVER PARKING WHERE FOLKS WERE PARKING AND IN BUSINESSES PARKING LOT AND GOING TO THE BEACH BUT ALSO THE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORHOODS WITH BLEED OVER PARKING FOLKS PARKING ALONG THE STREETS BLOCKING RIGHT OF WAY PARKING IN FOLKS YARDS AND SO I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO AMEND THIS MOTION TO INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVES THOSE RESIDENTIAL AREAS BECAUSE THEY ARE GREATLY IMPACTED THEY HAVE A LOT OF DATA TO PROVIDE ABOUT THAT IMPACT. 
          NOT ONLY ARE THEY GREATLY IMPACTED BY PARKING I CALL IT CREATIVE PARKING WHICH IS A DIPLOMATIC WAY OF DESCRIBING PEOPLE PARKING IN PLACES THEY SHOULDN'T BE PARKING AND EVEN TO THE EXTENT OF ABUSING AND DAMAGING TOWN'S PROPERTY THE PARKING AREA. 
          SO I WE DO NEED THAT KIND OF REPRESENTATION AND FOLKS SITTING AROUND AND GATHERING DATA AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH A BETTER SOLUTION I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THAT SINCE MARCH OF LAST YEAR SO I DO FAVOR PUTTING TOGETHER A TEAM FOR THAT BUT I THINK THAT IT SHOULD HAVE RESIDENTIAL REPRESENTS AND THE OTHER THE OTHER THING I WOULD COMMENT ABOUT THE MOTION IS IT SAYS IT WILL BE AN EVEN NUMBER MY EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH BOARDS AND COMMITTEES OVER THE YEARS IS IT'S BETTER TO HAVE AN ODD NUMBER IN CASE A TIE I MEAN IT'D BE NICE IF EVERYONE AGREED IT WERE UNANIMOUS BUT SOMETIMES THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AND. 
          PERHAPS THE FINAL REPORT MIGHT BE UNANIMOUS BUT AS YOU GO THROUGH THE ACTIVITIES OF A TASK OR A COMMITTEE OR AN AD HOC WORKING GROUP WHATEVER IT MAY BE CALLED IT'S BETTER TO HAVE AN ODD NUMBER OF REPRESENTATIVES. IN ADDITION, I UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO HAVE A REPORT THAT CAN BE MADE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE THIS CALLS FOR IT TO BE MADE ON OR BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30 OF NEXT YEAR. SO YOU KNOW, JUST AMOUNT OF TIME THAT'S NEEDED TO GET A GOOD PRODUCT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT TIME PERIOD BUT I JUST UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SHORTER TIME. 
          THEN FINALLY IT SAYS IT'S THE COMMITTEE'S RESPONSIBILITY IDENTIFY RELEVANT DATA AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE COUNCIL US COUNCIL TO GIVE MORE INSTRUCTIONS ABOUT WHAT KIND OF DATA WE DISCUSS THE VARIOUS KINDS OF DATA POSSIBLE AT OUR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 27. 
          LOOK BACK AT BEFORE THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF DATA OVER THAT TIME AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE TOWN MANAGER AND HIS TEAM TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF AND FOR THIS TASK FORCE OR SORRY IT'S CALLED AN 
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AD HOC AD HOC GROUP. MY APOLOGIES TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF DATA THAT WE BE LOOKING FOR BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT LISTED AND I HAVE A LIST OF SUGGESTED DATA IF WANT TO GET INTO THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION BUT FOR THAT REASON I CAN'T SUPPORT THE MOTION BECAUSE I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE OF THOSE ESSENTIAL MATTERS AND AFTER WE'VE HAD MORE DISCUSSION THEN I'D BE HAPPY TO SUGGEST AN AMENDMENT AND OTHER DISCUSSION. 
          MR. BROWN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AS I'M GOING TO PICK UP ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THIS FALL DISCUSSION PURPOSES I GUESS I'LL START WITH THE DATA PIECE. AS A PERSON I'M NOT LOOKING FOR OBSERVED DATA. 
          I'M LOOKING FOR REAL DATA AND I KNOW THAT THE TOWN WILL BE RESPONSIBLE SOME OF THAT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND THE COUNTERS WILL BE IN PLACE IN THE HOPE AVENUE LIGHT RIGHT. SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND CONDITIONS AND TRENDS ALONG THE WAY FROM THE TOWN'S PERSPECTIVE. NOW AS FAR AS ON THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THINGS, I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE DATA SETS THAT THEY HAVE THAT THEY WILL WANT TO SHARE DURING THIS DISCUSSION AS WELL. AND I COULDN'T SIT HERE TODAY AND TELL YOU WHAT ARE BUT I KNOW THAT THEY WILL BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE FOR THE DISCUSSION. THE SECOND ONE IS THE I'M WANTING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER IS GOING TO SET THIS UP IN WIN BECAUSE. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE TEMPO BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED HAVE THE HOLIDAYS MEMORIAL THE 4TH OF JULY THOSE SORT OF PINCH POINTS OPPORTUNITIES AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS COMMITTEE PEOPLE SOONER THAN LATER SO I'D ASK THAT WE HAVE SOME THE ON THE TABLE AS FAR AS WHEN THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE FORMED AND WHO IS GOING TO FORM IT. AND I GUESS WHILE I'M THINKING ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO FORM IT, I'M SORT INCLINED TO LEAVE THAT UP TO THE MAYOR TO MOVE THIS ALONG SO THAT IT DOES COME TOGETHER EXPEDITIOUSLY. AND IT WAS DREAMS. BROWN DO YOU A THOUGHT ON A DATE WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS SOLIDIFIED? ARE YOU OFFERING WARNER'S THAT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION THAT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION NOW JUMP BACK IN FOR A SECOND SO. SO I LOVE THE FACT THAT ALL SEEM TO BE IN AGREEMENT HERE AND AS I RECALL BACK TO THOSE MEETINGS THESE WERE THE EXACT QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED AND I FIND IT FRUSTRATING THAT WHEN AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE AND I'M TRYING TO GET A POLICY MOVE FORWARD TO RECOMMEND TO TOWN COUNCIL THAT THERE'S NOT THE SAME TYPE OF COOPERATION THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE IN THAT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH SOME MEMBERS MAY HAVE THE MOTION THAT COUNCILMAN AMOS'S MOTION IN FRONT THEM I'VE NOT SEEN IT SO I HAVEN'T HAD THE BENEFIT OF LOOKING AT IT THINKING ABOUT AND HAVING COMMENTS PREPARED. I I, I WOULD LOVE A COPY OF THAT SO THAT I KNOW WHAT IT IS I'M VOTING ON. BUT IF WE'RE ESSENTIALLY DOING IT WAS THAT I'VE ASKED FOR QUITE SOME TIME THANK YOU AGAIN I HAVE LITTLE WITH THAT BUT I DO HAVE A BIGGER QUESTION SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN BROWN WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS WHAT WHAT THE ONE OF THE SOURCES FOR THE DATA GOING TO BE OH WE HIRING A CONSULTANT I'VE BEEN IN THE STUDY DONE AND WHAT ARE THE AND I MAY HAVE SAID THIS ALREADY CAN COST IMPLICATIONS TO THE TOWN WITH REGARD TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS SO IS ARE THERE ANY ANSWERS ON THOSE QUESTIONS SO IF I COULD MOVE TO ORLANDO ASK THAT MR. LANIER ADDRESS THOSE YOU'VE GOT A WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROGRAM AND HOW WHAT DATA WILL BE COLLECTED, HOW IS COLLECTED AND AND SO ON. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR PERRY. MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL, MR. TOWN MANAGER SO AS FAR AS THE DATA THAT WE DO COLLECT THROUGH WITH PCI OUR PARKING CONTRACTOR IS CHAIRED BY MR. GERBER AS PART OF HIS PRESENTATION PREVIOUSLY WE DO HAVE CAMERAS THAT COUNT VEHICLES AS THEY COME INTO PARKING LOT INCLUDING THE PARKING LOT AND COLLECTING AND THEY TRACK THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED PER DAY. 
          THAT DATA HAS BEEN RESET EACH DAY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AN ACCURATE COUNT. 
          WE ALSO DO MAINTAIN SOME FROM THE LICENSE PLATES AS FAR AS WHAT STATE THOSE THAT THOSE 
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VEHICLES ARE COMING FROM. SO WE CAN ALSO THEN START TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT IF IT'S A SOUTH CAROLINA PLATE ASSUME THAT THAT'S LOCAL TRAFFIC VERSUS GEORGIA OR OTHER STATE PLATES. SO THAT IS DATA THAT IS READILY AVAILABLE TO US. 
          IS THERE OTHER DATA THAT WOULD NEED TO BE IN YOUR MIND COLLECTED THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE? SO THE OTHER PART OF THAT AS FAR AS THE EXPENSE, I WOULDN'T SAY THIS IS EXPENSE BUT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO WORK WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND ALSO THEY CAN GIVE US SOME SOME IDEAS BASED ON THEIR RECEIPTS HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY'RE SEEING VISITING THEIR THIRD PLACES OF BUSINESS. SO IN THE PAST AS I RECALL WE DID DO A PARKING STUDY THERE WAS A REPORT THAT WAS PRESENTED AND FOLLOWING THAT I COULD LOOK ANY BUSINESS AS I UNDERSTAND CRANE DID THEIR OWN THEIR OWN CONSULTANT COME IN AND DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH HAD A REPORT DONE AND SOME SORT OF EXPENSE TO THEM AS I'VE HEARD IT WAS QUITE COSTLY. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE SOUND LIKE THIS ISN'T JUST A CONVERSATION THESE ARE BRINGING FOLKS IN WHO DOING STUDIES AND AND THE REST AND THOSE DOLLARS INVOLVED. 
          I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO OUR TESTS. SO IF RIGHT NOW I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED NECESSARILY BRING IN A CONSULTANT BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE TODAY THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN THE PAST, IDEALLY WE COULD DO ALL THAT WE COULD DO A LOT OF THAT WORK IN-HOUSE. CERTAINLY AS WE ENTER INTO THIS PROCESS AND WE START TO MEET WITH THE BUSINESSES AND IF WE HAD SOME RESIDENTS THAT CAME TO THE TO THE TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO FURTHER EVALUATE AND SEE IF WE CAN STILL MAINTAIN TO MANAGE THAT IN-HOUSE. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN COMMUNITIES IN MY PAST WHERE WE WERE AS A PROFESSIONAL PUTTING STAFF WE CAN WE CAN MANAGE PARKING STUDIES, WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA AND COUNT PARKING SPACES AND DO ALL THOSE THOSE THINGS TO ANALYZE PARKING NEEDS AND DEMANDS. YOU THINK THAT STUDY WOULD OR THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE BUSINESS SINCE IN THE PAST THEY WENT AFTER OURS AND DID THEIR OWN AND INCURRED THEIR OWN EXPENSES . 
          WHAT IS THE EXPECTATIONS I GUESS I'M JUST LOOKING FOR EVERYBODY'S EXPECTATIONS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING, WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GENERALLY ANTICIPATED TO BE I DON'T WANT TO FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY BUT CERTAINLY BASED ON MY PAST EXPERIENCE BEEN ABLE TO TO PROVIDE DATA THAT'S BEEN SUPPORTED BY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK AT AND WITH THEM. THANKS, MR. ORLANDO THANK YOU, MAYOR. JOHN, THANK YOU FOR IN LIKE THIS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COLLECTING DATA WE KNOW ENOUGH AT THIS POINT. SO I WOULD SAY AND I TOOK A LOOK AT SOME OF JOSH'S NOTES AND HIS FOLDER. IN FACT, THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS I HAD FIRST TOPIC MEETINGS I ATTENDED CLOSE TO FOUR YEARS AGO AND SO I'VE BEEN COLLECTING SOME THOUGHTS AS WELL THROUGH WE'VE COLLECTED THE DATA HUNDRED AND 44 BUSINESSES, 576 APPROXIMATE EMPLOYEES NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES WE'VE ACQUIRED NEW LOTS. 
          WE KNOW HOW MANY LOT AND MY PARKING SPACES ARE AT USB WE CAN WE CAN ACTUALLY ADD ALL THAT UP WE HAVEN'T DONE AS A REAL FORMAL SURVEY I SO WE HAVEN'T SENT ANY INFORMATION OUT TO ALL THE BUSINESSES EXCEPT TO TALK TO A LOT OF THEM WHEN WE HAD VARIOUS INPUT I REMEMBER ONE WAS AT CELEBRATION PARK AND IT WAS FAIRLY WELL ATTENDED BY I MEAN 20 PEOPLE 30 PEOPLE IT DOESN'T MEAN ALL THOSE BUSINESSES, ALL THOSE EMPLOYEES. 
          SO LET US COLLECT THAT. SO I THINK IT'S FOR TODAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE AN AD HOC WORKING WE CAN START LOOKING AT THAT WALKER REPORT THE TOWN PAID FOR WE CAN CONNECT WITH THE COLLEAGUE IN THE PLAZA STUDY AND THEN TO MR. LINEKER'S POINT WE START COUNTING VEHICLES THIS YOU KNOW MOVING FORWARD WILL COUNT BY DAY BY WEEK BY MONTH INCLUDE HOLIDAYS WE CAN GET YOU A REAL NUMBER ON NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WITH A REAL A FORMAL SURVEY NUMBER OF BUSINESSES GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION DISTANCE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED VERSUS OF PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE AND THEN ALIGN THAT WITH A LOT THE WORK WE'VE ALREADY DONE. SO I THINK WE CAN COME BACK TO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT AND I HAVEN'T THOUGHT THROUGH THIS I WOULD GIVE IT SOME BECAUSE I WANT TO COLLECT THE DATA THAT'S GOING TO HELP INFORM YOU TO MAKE A DECISION RATHER THAN JUST COLLECT DATA. 
          SO I THINK I'M GOING TO NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BUT TO A DEGREE IT'S IT'S SUPPLY AND DEMAND OR WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST IS INSTEAD OF VOTING ON THIS MOTION TODAY THAT WE WE ASK THE TOWN MANAGER AND HIS STAFF TO COME UP WITH A SUGGESTED FORMAT FOR THIS GROUP AND WHAT KIND OF DATA AND HOW IT BE COLLECTED AND THAT GIVES US A THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT 
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OF DIFFERENT IDEAS HERE AND I THINK IT'D BE MORE HELPFUL TO PUT THEM IN ONE COGENT REPORT BEFORE WE WOULD ON SOMETHING BECAUSE I HAVE THIS LIST OF DATA THAT I'VE SUGGESTED TO SEVERAL FOLKS AND WAS BASED UPON WHAT FOLKS WHAT QUESTIONS FOLKS WERE ASKING ABOUT WHAT SUGGESTIONS THEY WERE MAKING AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A PERFECT LIST BUT I'D HAPPY TO SHARE THAT AND TO LOOK AT HOW THE GROUP WOULD BE CONSTITUTED WITH MY YOU KNOW, RESPECTFUL AND AND PRESSING REQUESTS TO INCLUDE RESIDENT REPRESENTATION IN THIS AD HOC WORKING GROUP AND AS TO SPECIFICALLY SAY ONCE THEY COLLECT THE DATA WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH IT BECAUSE I THINK IN THE PAST SOMETIMES WE'VE APPOINTED FORCES COMMITTEES GROUPS, AD HOC WORKING GROUPS, WHATEVER AND THE COUNCIL HASN'T GIVEN A CLEAR ENOUGH DIRECTION AS TO WHAT WANT THEM TO DO AND WHAT RESULT WE WANT THEM NOT RESOLVE BUT WHAT TYPE OF RECOMMENDATION WHAT SHOULD BE IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION GIVEN TO US. SO I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE MORE DIRECTION AS WELL INSTEAD OF HAVING AN OPEN ENDED AD HOC GROUP THAT GOES AND COLLECTS DATA. AND SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT A LONGER TIME PERIOD THERE'S NOT AS MUCH OF A CRUNCH TO DECIDE ON THE CONSTITUENT OF THE GROUP TODAY BUT PERHAPS WE COULD CONSIDER IT AT OUR MEETING IN NOVEMBER. I THINK IT'S NOVEMBER 12 IF I REMEMBER THAT DATE CORRECTLY WITHIN COUNCIL CONSIDERING WHO SHOULD BE APPOINTED THE AD HOC GROUP AS DRAFTED I HAVE SOME SYMPATHY FOR I'M GOING TO HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THERE AND THIS THIS PROPOSAL THAT COMES MY NAME'S PUT FORWARD DOES IN FACT DEAL WITH THAT ALTHOUGH SOME ARE CERTAINLY BY VIRTUE OF INCLUSION OF THE WARD THREE COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE MOST OF THE CONTENDERS FOR THAT POSITION CURRENT ELECTION LIVE IN THE AREA SO WOULD BE A RESIDENT WHO WOULD ALSO BE A MEMBER OF COUNCIL SECONDARILY A NUMBER OF THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR INCLUSION ON THIS COMMITTEE ALSO LIVE IN THAT AREA SO THAT'S THE WAY AT LEAST IN MY MIND WE THOUGHT ABOUT RESIDENTIAL INCLUSION IN TERMS OF WHERE THIS SHOULD GO. I THINK IT IS IMPLICIT IF NOT EXPLICIT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF DISSATISFACTION ABOUT THE ARGUED SITUATION THERE AND THE OBJECTIVE IS TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. 
          I THINK THE DIRECTION AND WHERE THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE ENDING UP PRETTY MUCH INCLUDED IN THAT VIEWPOINT IS RHAMES THANK YOU. THE MOTIVATION TO CREATE THIS AD HOC WORKING GROUP IN MY MIND CAME OUT OF THE REALIZATION THAT OVER YEARS AND ALMOST DECADES THE TOWN AND BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN TO COME TO AGREEMENT ON HOW WE DEAL WITH THE PROCESS OF PARKING DOWN IN COLONY. 
          WE HAVE TRIED ANY NUMBER OF WAYS OF MOVING THAT BALL FORWARD BUT UNSUCCESSFULLY IN MY MIND WHAT I WAS ATTEMPT TO INITIATE WAS A TIGHTLY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH RESPONSIBILITY TO UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER'S PROBLEMS AND THROUGH CONVERSATION COME TO A MIDDLE GROUND OF WHAT MAKES SENSE BOTH FROM THE BUSINESS STANDPOINT THE RESIDENTS AND ALSO THE THE BEACH GOERS STANDPOINT. SO IT IS A SMALL GROUP WITH A VERY CLOSE TIMELINE TO COME UP WITH IDEA AND THEN A CONSENSUS OF WHAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR BUSINESSES RESIDENTS AND BEACHGOERS IN THAT AREA. THAT'S WHY IN MY MIND IT WAS FOR PEOPLE TO SIX PEOPLE I THINK THAT IF YOU GET MUCH BEYOND THAT YOU'RE NOT NEGOTIATING FACE FACE YOU'RE BASICALLY GETTING OPINIONS AROUND THE TABLE AND I DON'T CONCEIVE OF THIS WORKING GROUP AS THAT I SEE THE WORKING GROUP MEMBERS OF HAVING THE 
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RESPONSIBILITY AS CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN COME FORWARD WITH A WORKABLE, REALISTIC AND EFFICACIOUS PLAN IF IT IS THE PLEASURE AND OPINION OF THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE AN EVEN GROUP. I HAD MY REASONS FOR BEING AN EVEN GROUP AGAIN I DIDN'T WANT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO PERCEIVE AS BEING WEIGHTED IN AT THE ADVANTAGE OF THE TOWN. 
          I WANTED TO FORCE THE FOUR OR SIX PEOPLE TO HAVE TO COME TO AGREEMENT BUT OTHERS ON THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION. I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILMAN BROWN SUGGESTED THAT IT SHOULD BE FORMED BY A DATE AND I WOULD JUST SAY WE CAN SAY I MOVE COUNCIL REQUEST THE MAYOR AND TOWN MANAGER FORM BY NOVEMBER 30TH 2024 AND THAT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I THINK IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE MAYOR AND THE TOWN MANAGER TO UNDERSTAND RESPONSIBILITY FIRST TO THE COMMUNITY I.E. THE MAYOR AND OPERATIONAL EFFECTIVENESS AND I.E. THE TOWN MANAGER. AND SO THAT'S I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE TWO OF THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN A IN A ROBUST WAY MOVING FORWARD. 
          I THINK BOTH HAVE SKILLS THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY IN THIS ENDEAVOR. 
          THERE ARE PARTS OF THIS THAT I MIGHT DO I MIGHT SPEED UP BUT BEEN PERSUADED THAT IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO HAVE DATA ON MEMORIAL DAY NEXT YEAR FOR HERITAGE THE BUSY WEEKS AND JUNE AND FOR 4TH OF JULY I THINK THAT THE DEADLINE TO US IS ESTABLISHED TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION AND A CONCLUSION FOR THE BUDGET OF 2026. SO THAT'S WHY I'VE COME THE CONCLUSION THAT SEPTEMBER 30TH 2025 IS ACCEPTABLE AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 
          DO WE HAVE A TIME FRAME IN TERMS OF WILD WINGS BECOMING I PARKING SOME PARKING AVAILABILITY AS WELL AS INSURANCE FOR ORLANDO YES WE ARE READY TO DEMOLISH WILD WING. I SIMPLY ASKED SEAN COLEMAN TO PUMP BRAKES BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT KNOCKING THE BUILDING DOWN THAT SOME OF YOU THAT THIS SURVEY RESULT MAY MAY AFFECT SOME THINGS. 
          WE'RE READY TO GO. I MEAN THE BIDS CAME IN THE CONTRACTS ON MY I CAME IN YESTERDAY I JUST WANTED TO GET THROUGH TOWN COUNCIL TODAY BEFORE I THAT FORWARD SO THAT'S READY TO GO WE JUST CLOSED ON THE SECOND LINE AND SEAN IS FITTING THAT OUT TO GET A PRICE AND A SCHEDULE ON THAT SO WE'RE READY. THE REASON I ASK IS IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THE THAT IS WE'RE COLLECTING IT WILL BE INFLUENCED OBVIOUSLY BY THOSE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES. MR.. RELATED LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COUNCIL HAS PUT ON THE PLATE OF YOU AND STAFF TO GET EXECUTED IN THE NEXT 14 MONTHS. HOW WOULD THIS NEGATIVE OR WOULD IT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE ABILITY THOSE PROJECTS FOR A LIMO REWRITE ELEMENT FULL REWRITE AND THINGS THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED I SEE HOW YOU ASKED ME WITH ALL THESE FINE FOLKS STARING AT ME RIGHT NOW I'M NOT WIRED IN WITH SEAN SITTING RIGHT THERE SMILING AT ME TOO. I'M NOT WIRED NOR NOR WOULD I SAY THIS WOULD PREVENT AN. 
          I WILL ASK THIS THOUGH THAT THE MARCH DATE IS PRETTY FAST IF IF WE THINK ABOUT IT IF I COULD ONBOARDING NEW TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS STRATEGIC PLAN PREPARING A BUDGET WITH MISS ADRIANA HERE I WANT TO GET IN FRONT OF IN A GREAT START WITH COUNCIL NEXT YEAR I THINK THAT I NEED SOME DATA OVER THE SUMMER TO HELP ME HELP YOU MAKE SOME BETTER DECISIONS WITH MEASURED RESULTS NOT JUST OBSERVED. SO I THINK THAT THE TIME FRAME 
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IF IT'S SEPTEMBER HELPS THIS THIS SHOULD NOT TAKE A LOT OF TIME MY THOUGHT IS TO PUT THAT WHEN WHEN YOU ALL DECIDE WHO THE GROUP HAS THE AD HOC GROUP IT'S A SURVEY AND AND IT'S A QUESTION OF WHO ARE WE SURVEYING BECAUSE THE ANSWERS THE ANSWERS WE HAVE TO SURVEY THE PHYSICAL SPACE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME FORMAL Q&A WITH THE BUSINESSES AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROBABLY EVEN SOME EMPLOYEES DIDN'T I DIDN'T HEAR EMPLOYEES ON THIS BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT AN EMPLOYER WILL ENGAGE AN EMPLOYEE TO ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO RIDE A PARK AND RIDE TWO MILES AWAY AT 10:00 AT NIGHT. 
          SO I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF THINKING THROUGH THOSE QUESTIONS AND THEN GETTING THAT TEAM TOGETHER THE REST OF THE REST OF US TO REPORT TO YOU AS WE I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT IN MY MIND THE AD HOC WORKING GROUP WOULD BE A FORMAL TOWN COMMITTEE. 
          IT WOULD BE SEPARATELY INDEPENDENTLY. THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. 
          DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING, GOVERNOR I'LL MAKE SURE WE ALL CLEAR. 
          THE DECISION WE'RE MAKING TODAY IS JUST SAYING GO FORWARD. WE'RE NOT BINDING OURSELVES ANYTHING TODAY. AND I GUESS THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD ADD TO IT IS I WOULD HAVE THE EXPECTATION THAT AS THIS GROUP IS FORMED AND STARTS TO COLLECT DATA THAT THEY COULD BE REPORTING BACK TO US SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OBVIOUSLY. 
          THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS. WE ALL KNOW THAT. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SOMETIME AFTER SEPTEMBER IS WHEN WE AS POLICYMAKERS WILL BE HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THIS BODY SOME ROOM TO WORK. I THINK WE'VE TALKED TO EACH OTHER TOO LONG AND THIS HAS GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH ONE ANOTHER. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT IF I MIGHT. PARKING HAS BEEN, AS WE ALL KNOW, A SENSITIVE SUBJECT FOR A LONG TIME AND THERE'S THOSE FOR THAT ARE AGAINST AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD AT GATHERING THE DATA OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS AND WITH TCI AND THE NEW POLICY IN THE NEW PROGRAM THAT WILL GO INTO PLACE ON SEPTEMBER OR JANUARY 1ST, WE'LL EASILY PROVIDE THAT DATA TO US. WHEN WE VOTED ON SEPTEMBER 17TH ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WAS NOT CHARGE EVERYWHERE. LET'S FIGURE IT OUT AND GET THE DATA SO THAT WE CAN DETERMINE BEST YOU KNOW, HAVING THIS GROUP COME AROUND AND WORK FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY WITH ALL PARTIES AT THE TABLE THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION AND THERE'S THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AND ALSO WHAT DOES THE ALL PARKING LOOK LIKE WHEN THERE'S PARKING AND WHEN IT'S PACKED AT COLLIGNON OR POP AVENUE AREA WHAT IS THE ENFORCEMENT LOOK LIKE? WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT QUALITY LIFE FOR RESIDENTS IS NOT DESTROYED BY THE ACTIONS OF COUNCIL? SO HAVING THIS GROUP I THINK GETS US TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN HAVE A MORE CONVERSATION AND MAYBE SOME IDEAS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD OF YET. 
          I'M WITH IT. ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS OTHERS AGREE IS BY NOVEMBER 30TH, 2024 JUST SO THAT THERE IS EXPECTATION OUT THERE IN TOWN I WOULD DARE SAY THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE UPDATED FINDINGS THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER MONTHS THAT WOULD KEEP THAT WOULD KEEP THAT KEEP TALKING ABOUT IN RESPONSE TO MR. BROWN'S ABOUT 000 BS NOVEMBER 30TH OKAY I THOUGHT YOU SAID SEPTEMBER OF MY FATHER. YEAH SEPTEMBER. 
          OF NEXT YEAR OR YEAH YEAH AT 30TH TO GET YES THIS PROCESS STARTED THAT'S FINE I CAN DO MY AMENDMENT OKAY ANY OTHER DISCUSSION GOT A VOTE ON MY AMENDMENT. 
          YEAH. SO SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION TO ADD HAVING COMMITTEE THE AD HOC GROUP SET UP BY NOVEMBER MAY FURTHER AMEND AND THEN HERE WE GO THE AMENDMENTS I INCLUDE RESIDENTS AND WE'RE NOT TOWN MEMBERS AND NOT BUSINESS OWNERS BE A PART OF THE AD HOC GROUP NOW WE HAVE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT TO ADD A NON BUSINESS OWNER RESIDENT IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT AMENDMENT OUT OF RESPECT I'LL STICK IT IN ALTHOUGH I DISAGREE. CAN I ASK YOU COUNCILWOMAN WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? 
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ONE WHAT IS THE NUMBER THAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE ONE THAT GETS YOU TO THE ODD NUMBER THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR? WE ALWAYS ABOUT WHAT'S YOUR INTENTION? IN A DRAFT OF MY THINKING I STARTED OUT HAVING A SEVEN MEMBER GROUP BECAUSE I STILL BELIEVE IN AN ODD NUMBER THREE MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY FROM THAT AREA BUSINESS IS LONG PIPE AVENUE THREE RESIDENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS IT AND WHO WOULD NOT HAVE A BUSINESS AND THEN ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD HOPEFULLY BRING CONSENSUS THAT MIGHT THAT WOULDN'T BE FROM EITHER OF THOSE TWO GROUPS THAT'S HOW IT FIRST STARTED AND THEN MORE THINKING PERHAPS IT SHOULD BE A SMALLER GROUP SIZE TWO REPRESENTATIVES OF BUSINESSES ALONG THE PIPE AVENUE AREA TWO RESIDENTS WHO DON'T HAVE BUSINESS INTERESTS ALONG THE PIPE AVENUE AREA AND AGAIN THAT OTHER WHO WOULD BE NOT A MEMBER OF EITHER GROUP TO TRY TO HELP BUILD CONSENSUS. SO THAT WAS MY INITIAL THINKING I DON'T LIKE IT BEING LOADED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I TRULY BELIEVE I THINK I'VE SAID IT TWICE NOW THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THAT WE ARE IGNORING I SEE CONSTITUENCY IN THIS CRUCIAL ISSUE IN THAT AREA AND THAT IS THE IMPACT ON RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. SURE. 
          AND I AGREE I WANT TO DEFINITELY HEAR THE RESIDENTS ON THAT. 
          SO WHAT IS YOUR TOTAL NUMBER? HOW MANY STAFF HOW MANY STAFF TO A TOTAL OF FIVE AND I HAD TWO BUSINESSES, TWO RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT BUSINESS OWNERS, ONE WHO'S NEITHER A TOTAL OF FIVE WAS THE TOWN MANAGER OR IS DESIGNEE AN EXECUTION MEMBER AND THE STAFF PROVIDING STAFF SUPPORT FOR THE AD HOC GROUP TEAM OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE I LIKE THAT MAKEUP BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT THAT WAS MY THINKING ON THE QUESTION ON THAT MATTER. OKAY SO WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. MR. PRICE AND SECOND BY MR. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO ISN'T FOLLOWING THAT THAT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON SORRY. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON NOW IS SIMPLY TO ADD THE NOVEMBER 30TH. NO, THAT'S OKAY. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE WE'RE VOTING ON MRS. BRYCE'S MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT TO TO ADD RESIDENTS BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURED STRUCTURE THAT SHE OUTLINED WITH. 
          THE STRUCTURE THAT SHE OUTLINED DOES THE MOTION WAS TO ADD RESIDENTS TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION WHICH WAS AMENDED TO INCLUDE THAT THE GROUP BE ESTABLISHED BY NOVEMBER 30TH WITHOUT HAVING SPECIFIC NUMBERS . BUT I WAS EXPLAINING MY REASONING FOR THAT. RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT. SO THE NUMBERS I HAVE A PROBLEM THE RESIDENTS I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SPLIT THIS AND LET ME KNOW WHEN IT'S MY TURN TO SAYING YES. THE RESIDENT VERSUS EMPLOYEE VERSUS BUSINESSES FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO TO MR. AMES AMENDMENT AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE FINAL MOTION. 
          SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MRS. BRYCE'S MOTION PLEASE SIGNIFY YOUR RIGHT HAND REST. 
          OKAY. AND THOSE OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          OKAY. 2 TO 5 THAT MACPHAIL'S ON THE AMENDMENT TO HAVE IT SET UP BY NOVEMBER 30TH MR. AMES MADE THE MOTION. MR. SANFORD SECONDED IT IN A DISCUSSION ON THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE IN FINALLY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND PROPOSED IT'LL BE 6 TO 1 NOW ON THE MOTION TO SET UP THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WORK GROUP MOTION BY MR. AMES SECONDED BY MR. ALFRED ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND AND ARMS TO ALL RIGHT THAT WAS A GOOD HEALTHY DISCUSSION YOU ALL. 
          [9.a. Consideration of a Resolution to adopt the 2024 Repetitive Loss Area Analysis as required for the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s Community Rating System - Missy Luick, Director of Planning]
THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS WE HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF A TO ADOPT THE 2020 FOR REPETITIVE LOSS AND LOSS ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED FOR FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY COMMUNITY SYSTEM. THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON SEPTEMBER 12 TO RECOMMEND THE REPETITIVE LOSS AREA ANALYSIS TO COUNCIL FOR MUST LOOK. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MR. ORLANDO AMNESTY LUBECK THE PLANNING DIRECTOR BEFORE US TODAY IS CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION ADOPT THE REPETITIVE LOSS AREA ANALYSIS AS REQUIRED BY THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY OR FEMA COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM PROGRAM THE TOWN HAS PARTICIPATED IN THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM 
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SINCE 1991. THE TOWN IS CURRENTLY CLASS FIVE COMMUNITY WHICH MEANS IT GIVES ITS RESIDENTS A 25% DISCOUNT ON THEIR FLOOD INSURANCE PREMIUMS. CURRENTLY THE TOWN HAS 23,000 FLOOD INSURANCE POLICIES ENFORCED WITH THE SAVINGS OF OVER $3 MILLION ALTHOUGH THE REGIONAL 2020 HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN WAS APPROVED BY FEMA, IT DID NOT THE CRC THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM REQUIREMENT FOR COMMUNITIES GREATER THAN 50 REPETIS. THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND CURRENTLY HAS 88 REPETITIVE LOST PROPERTIES SO THIS DOCUMENT WAS DEVELOPED TO SATISFY A PREREQUISITE FOR COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM COMMUNITIES WITH GREATER THAN 50 REPETITIVE LOST PROPERTIES TO MAINTAIN THAT 25% DISCOUNT. SO WHAT IS REPETITIVE LOSS AREA ANALYSIS THE PURPOSE OF THIS DOCUMENT OR THIS PLAN IS TO ASSESS THE POTENTIAL CAUSES OF FLOODING IN AREAS THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY FLOODED AND PROPERTIES WITH REPEATED LOSSES. 
          THIS DOCUMENT IS AN ANALYSIS OF SITE SPECIFIC DETAILS SUCH AS THE STRUCTURES FINISHED HEIGHT EXTERIOR AC UNITS GRADES NEARBY, STORMWATER INLETS, CATCH BASINS AND DRAINAGE WATERWAY FEATURES. THE RESULTS OF THE ASSESSMENT ARE USED TO DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROPRIATE MITIGATION STRATEGIES THAT ARE AIMED REDUCE OR ELIMINATE FUTURE FLOOD LOSSES. THERE IS NO FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO MITIGATE ANY FLOOD RISK THAT'S IDENTIFIED IN THIS PLAN. HOWEVER, THIS PLAN PROVIDES A GUIDE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY SO THE DOCUMENT OVERALL IS MADE UP AT AT A HIGH LEVEL OF TWO MAIN SECTIONS. ONE OF THOSE IS THE REPETITIVE AREA ANALYSIS. I'LL PULL UP THE MAP ON PAGE SEVEN. 
          IT INCLUDES MAPPING OF 25 REPETITIVE LOST AREAS AND THEN IT INCLUDES THE PLANNING PROCESS OVERVIEW THAT INCLUDED OUTREACH TO ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN EACH OF THOSE REPETITIVE LOSS AREAS CONTACT WITH AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS SITE VISITS TO EACH IT'S PAGE SEVEN. 
          THANK YOU SITE VISITS TO EACH BUILDING WITHIN REPETITIVE LOSS AREA AND A REVIEW OF ALTERNATIVES AND DOCUMENTATION OCEANS OF FINDING AND MITIGATION. 
          THANK YOU KIM FOR PULLING THE MAP. THIS MAP SHOWS THOSE 25 REPETITIVE LOSS AREAS THEY'RE LABELED ON HERE. THEY'RE AREAS A THROUGH AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE LOCATED ALL THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND THIS DOCUMENT IS A GUIDE TO PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES TO PROPERTY OWNERS INTERESTED IN PROTECTING THEIR PROPERTY. 
          IT WILL BE EVALUATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND MORE THOROUGHLY REEXAMINED PRIOR TO A COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM VERIFICATION VISIT. AS MENTIONED BY THE MAYOR, THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE ON SEPTEMBER 12TH VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND TO TOWN COUNCIL OF THE RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT THIS PLAN. IF ADOPTED BY TOWN COUNCIL THEN THIS DOCUMENT WILL BE FORWARDED TO FEMA TO SATISFY THAT PREREQUISITE AGAIN FOR US TO CONTINUE PARTICIPATION IN THAT COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM PROGRAM MAINTAINING THAT 25% DISCOUNT SOME OF QUESTIONS THAT WE HEARD AT THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE AND ANSWERED I'LL JUST GO OVER SOME OF THOSE. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HEARD WAS WHAT IS THE CRITERIA FOR PROPERTIES TO BE INCLUDED WITHIN THOSE REPETITIVE LOSS AREA ANALYSIS? AND THE CRITERIA WAS THAT A REPETITIVE LOST PROPERTY IS ANY BUILDING WITH TWO OR MORE FLOOD INSURANCE CLAIMS OF MORE THAN THOUSAND DOLLARS WITHIN A TEN YEAR PERIOD. 
          ANOTHER QUESTION WAS WHAT DOES MEAN IF I OWN PROPERTY THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN A REPETITIVE LOSS AREA? AGAIN AS WE STATED THERE IS NO MANDATE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO MITIGATE ANY FLOOD RISK. THIS ANALYSIS PROVIDES A GUIDE AND RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY. 
          THE OTHER QUESTION THAT WE HEARD AT A PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE WAS HOW IS PLAN RELATED TO OUR RESILIENCY PLANNING PROJECT? THERE IS A MITIGATION SECTION OF THIS REPORT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SHARED WITH OUR RESILIENCY PLANNING TEAM AND WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THAT PROJECT. ADDITIONALLY MITIGATION RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDED WITHIN THIS REPORT WILL BE SHARED WITH OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT DIVISION AS WELL AS OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS DIVISION FOR POSSIBLE INCORPORATION INTO ONGOING AND OR FUTURE OPERATIONS. FINALLY THE WAS PREPARED INTERNALLY BY OUR FLOODPLAIN SHERRY KENDRICK. SHERRY HAS OVER 22 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE DOING FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT WORK AND MANY THANKS TO HER FOR CONTACTING ALL OF THOSE SITE AREA ANALYZES AND 
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THIS PLAN. THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT DO YOU ANY QUESTIONS? FIRST OF ALL OPENING UP TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED TO SPEAK ON THIS KIM? NO, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. JAMES. 
          AS A TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR YOU ON THE COUNCIL I MOVE THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE 24 REPETITIVE LOSS ANALYSIS AS REQUIRED BY THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY'S COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM. THE SECOND I THINK IT WAS SURPRISING NO DISCUSSION. STAY BUSY AS ALWAYS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS . I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT IS AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS WHO MAY BE INTERESTED. HOW A RESIDENT ACQUIRE THIS INFORMATION OR ACCESS IT AS SOON AS IT IS ADOPTED. IT WILL BE IN OUR FLOOD AREA OF OUR WEBSITE. IF SHARING CAN LET ME KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT AREA OF THE WEBSITE CALLED BUT WE HAVE PLENTY OF FLOOD RESOURCES ON OUR WEBSITE IT WILL BE LOCATED ONCE IT IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. WOULD ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO JUST LOOK AT THIS OUT OF INTEREST. IT'S FASCINATING WHAT THE WHAT IT TELLS ABOUT OUR ISLAND. 
          THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS THE QUESTION IS I AGREE THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE REPORT. I MEAN I READ A LOT OF REPORTS IN MY DAY. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST USEFUL REPORTS I'VE SEEN THE EXAMPLES AND THE SUGGESTED WAYS TO MITIGATE. VERY HELPFUL. I JOIN MR. AMES SUGGESTING THAT RESIDENTS TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND I WOULD ASK THE TOWN THAT WE PUT IT ASSUMES IT'S ADOPTED PUT IT RIGHT THERE OUR ON OUR HOME PAGE TO ALERT FOLKS TO THIS INFORMATION BECAUSE CERTAINLY WE SEE IN THE NEWS A LOT THE IMPACTS OF FLOODING, RECENT HURRICANES. 
          AND SO FOLKS OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT MANDATORY BUT THERE ARE SUGGESTIONS IN HERE SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS SHOWING EXAMPLES. 
          I THINK FOLKS OUGHT TO TAKE AT THAT. AND THE OTHER THING IS I RECALL IN THE REPORT IS THAT THE TOWN STAFF CAN ACTUALLY COME OUT AND LOOK AT YOUR SITE AND AND PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE IN THAT WAY AND THAT'S VERY HELPFUL TO OUR RESIDENTS. 
          SO LET'S LET'S POINT THIS OUT. YOU KNOW, MAYBE SEND OUT AN EMAIL BLAST LIKE WE DO AND CERTAIN THINGS WERE ADOPTED OF NEWS TO FOLKS AND INCLUDE A LINK TO SPECIFICALLY WHERE IT IS ON OUR WEB SITE. SO THEY CAN FIND IT EASILY. WE HAVE A GREAT WEB SITE THAT'S PRETTY COMPLICATED TO FIND SPECIFIC INFORMATION. SO LET'S MAKE AN ALERT OF THIS ONE AND POINTED OUT TO FOLKS WELL DONE. THANK YOU VERY. 
          THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M SHARING MY NOTES THAT WE DO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT SHE'S DONE IN HER 22 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE SHOWS AND WE APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION COMING THROUGH THROUGH MISSY TO US. 
          SO I WAS FORTUNATE HAVE BEEN ON THE THE COMMITTEE A WHILE BACK AND AND I KNOW IT WILL BE BLASTED UP EVERYWHERE BECAUSE AS PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CRA TO GET THAT 25% DISCOUNT SO THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT EVERYBODY WILL SEE BUT IF YOU HAPPEN TO MISS IT DO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. SO WITH THAT SAID THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS SEEING THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE TAKE THE FIVE BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          [9.b. Consideration of a Resolution Adopting Environmentally Friendly Landscaping and Grounds Maintenance Practices/Integrated Pest Management Policy - Shawn Leininger, Assistant Town Manager]
SO MOVED LASTLY WE HAD THE CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING AND GROUNDS MAINTENANCE PRACTICES INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT POLICY. THIS POLICY HAS COMMITMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE NUMEROUS TIMES WITH THE MOST RECENT BEING ON SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR AT THE MEETING REPRESENTED THE NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS ORGANIZATION PROVIDED ADDITIONAL REVISIONS FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE AND THE MOTION MOVING FORWARD. 
          THE RESOLUTION PROPOSED AND POLICY THE TOWN COUNCIL THE COMMITTEE REQUESTED THE TOWN STAFF REPORT THE REVISIONS TO THE TOWN COUNCIL MR. LEININGER GOOD EVENING MAYOR PARAM PERRY MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL SHORELINE YOUR ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER THE REQUEST FOR YOU THIS AFTERNOON IS A CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION THAT IF APPROVED WOULD ADOPT ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING AND GROUNDS MAINTENANCE PRACTICES. 
          HONESTLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE ARE ADOPTING AN INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT POLICY. 
          THIS IDEA OF AN INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT POLICY IS ROOTED IN YOUR 2023 2025 STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN. SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY FOCUS AREA WHEREBY THE ACTION ITEM ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES WAS TO ASSESS AND IMPLEMENT ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING MADE TO BEST PRACTICES PROGRAM. 
          SO OVER THE PAST MONTH I GET TO WHAT WE'VE WHERE WE'VE BEEN LET ME JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH AN INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT POLICY OR AN POLICY. WHAT THAT IS JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND THE TERMS WE'RE 
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TALKING ABOUT AND IPM IS A DECISION MAKING STRATEGY THAT REALLY TAKES AND COMBINES DIFFERENT TOOLS AND RESOURCES FOR GROUNDS AND FACILITIES AIMED AT THE LONG TERM PREVENTION OF PAST OR THEIR DAMAGE. WE TALK ABOUT PEST, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PLANTS AND WE ARE TALKING ANIMALS. AND IT'S A BEST PRACTICE IN THIS CASE BECAUSE IT DOES WHAT THE DECISION STRATEGY DOES IS IT ATTEMPTS TO MINIMIZE RISK TO HUMAN HEALTH NON-TARGET ORGANISMS. IT'S ALSO A BENEFIT IT'S ALSO BENEFICIAL TO AND HELPS PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT. SO WE'RE STAFF HAS BEEN OVER THE PAST YEAR OR ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THE PAST YEAR IS RESEARCH AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT IPM ARE, WHAT THE BEST PRACTICES ARE. SO THEY SPENT AN EXTRA AMOUNT OF TIME LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT PRACTICES AND HOW WE MANAGE OUR ON OUR GROUNDS. 
          THEY LOOKED AT BEST PRACTICES THEN FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. 
          IN DOING THAT THEY MET WITH CERTIFIED PROFESSIONALS, MET WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, THEY MET WITH LEADERS AT ALL AND ALL LEVELS AND THEY ALSO MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS ORGANIZATION OF THERE'S A FEW MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE I SUSPECT THAT YOU'LL YOU'LL HEAR FROM THEM UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE ALSO SPOKE WITH OUR TOWN LANDSCAPING AND BUILDING MAINTENANCE CONTRACTORS TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS THAT THEY AT IPM AND HOW THEY CAN HELP US IMPLEMENT AN IP POLICY BASED ON ALL THAT RESEARCH WE DEVELOPED THREE GOALS TO DEVELOP THIS IPM POLICY. THOSE ARE TO REDUCE AND ELIMINATE PESTICIDE USE TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC WHEN PESTICIDES ARE USED IN PUBLIC SPACES. CURRENTLY WE DO NOT DO THAT AND ALSO TO ENSURE THAT THE TOWN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING PEST MANAGEMENT. CURRENTLY WHILE WE ARE IN CHARGE OF THOSE THOSE DECISIONS DON'T NECESSARILY DO THE BEST OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING THE DECISION ON OUR CONTRACTORS. AND SO THIS WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS IBM POLICY. THE RESULT THEN IS THE IP POLICY THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED IN FRONT OF YOU AS ATTACHED AS ATTACHMENT TO WHICH IS ATTACHED FOR WHAT IS YOUR RESOLUTION ATTACHMENT TO THE IP POLICY AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CSPS COMMITTEE? WE CAN GET INTO THE DETAILS OF OF OF THE POLICY ITSELF JUST WANT TO PRESENT SOME HIGH LEVEL PRINCIPLES AND PROCEDURES OF THAT OPEN POLICY CONTAINS. FIRST THE IPM POLICY APPLIES TO ALL PEST MANAGEMENT ON TOWN OWNED AND MANAGED PROPERTIES. THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT RODENTS THAT MAY BE IN BUILDINGS. THIS IS ABOUT EVERYTHING WE ARE DEALING WITH PEST MANAGEMENT IN TOWN OWNED AND MANAGED PROPERTIES THAT'S HERE AT CITY HALL WHETHER THAT'S AT OUR FIRE STATIONS OR ANY OF OUR MANY PARKS. WE ALSO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE NINE EXISTING CONTRACTS THAT ARE RELATED TO PEST MANAGEMENT EITHER BE AMENDED OR TERMINATED AND A NEW CONTRACT COMPLIANT WITH THIS IP POLICY IS POTENTIALLY ADOPTED THIS AFTERNOON WILL BE ISSUED WITHIN 12 MONTHS FOLLOWING THE POLICY ADOPTION. 
          SO AS I HAVE A NOTE HERE ON THE SCREEN, THOSE PANELS THOSE THOSE CONTRACTS START TO EXPIRE UP FOR RENEWAL ON NOVEMBER 30TH OF THIS YEAR AND THAT CONTINUES OUT THROUGH ABOUT JULY 31ST OF NEXT YEAR. THIS GIVES US TIME TO MAKE THOSE ADOPTIONS AND ALSO OR MAKE THOSE THOSE AMENDMENTS OR CONTRACTS. BUT THEN ALSO IF THERE'S ANY BUDGETARY OR OTHER OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IN MAKING THOSE AMENDMENTS OR REISSUE OF CONTRACTS, WE HAVE TRIED TO DEAL WITH THAT THROUGH A BUDGET CYCLE. 
          IT ESTABLISHES THAT THE TOWN HAS THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY OF ALL PEST CONTROL AND PROVIDES A WRITTEN APPROVAL PROCESS THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR CLARITY TRANSPARENCY. 
          WE PROHIBIT THE USE OF PESTICIDES CONTAINING A SUBSTANCE KNOWN TO BE A HUMAN CARCINOGEN AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT RESOURCES OUT THERE TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS A HUMAN CARCINOGEN. IN THIS CASE WE ARE UTILIZING STATES DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES IN THEIR REPORT ON CARCINOGENS. WE ALSO PROHIBITING THE USE OF CLASSIFIED PRODUCTS PERIOD AS ALL PROPERTIES IN THE TOWN. PRICE OF LIFESAVING PRODUCTS FOR NO LONGER ARE NO LONGER PERMITTED ON PROPERTIES. THAT WAS A MAJOR TOPIC OF CONVERSATION THROUGH AND THROUGH THE PAST YEAR OF DISCUSSION. 
          WE ALSO PROHIBIT THE USE OF EPA LEVEL ONE DANGEROUS PESTICIDES UNLESS IT IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH OR TO PREVENT ECONOMIC LOSS. SO EVERYTHING ELSE FAILS. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY TIME WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE THOSE PESTICIDES THAT ARE CONSIDERED DANGER ARE THE MOST FROM THE EPA STANDARDS OF OF OF ASSIGNING SIGNAL WORDS WE REQUIRE THE PESTICIDE APPLICATIONS BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE TARGET PEST AND MUST BE APPLIED BY PERSONS HAVING A VALID LICENSE IN SOUTH CAROLINA OR THE PERSON THAT'S APPLYING IS BEING SUPERVISED BY A PERSON THAT HOLDS SUCH A LICENSE THAT THAT COMES OUT OF OUR STATE LAW. 
          WHEN PESTICIDE CONTROLS ARE NECESSARY, THE IPM POLICY WILL PRESCRIBE AN ORGANIC FIRST LEAST TOXIC APPROACH SO IF PHYSICAL CONTROLS OTHER CONTROLS TO MITIGATE OR MANAGE A PEST ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL AND WE NEED TO GO UTILIZE A PESTICIDE THE FIRST THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ORGANICS OF SYNTHETICS. 
          WHEN WE LOOK GRAB THAT OR WHEN WE GO GRAB ORGANIC CHEMICAL, WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO MAKE 
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SURE THAT THAT'S THE LEAST TOXIC CHEMICAL THAT WE UTILIZE FOR THAT FOR THAT FOR THAT PEST. IF THAT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL IN TREATING THAT AND WE CAN'T APPLY MORE OR MORE APPLICATION OR APPLYING GREATER CONCENTRATION WE WILL MOVE ON TO THEN THE NEXT MORE TOXIC CHEMICAL ONLY ONCE THE ORGANIC IF ONLY IF THE ORGANIC CHEMICAL OR THE ORGANIC PESTICIDE IS NOT SUCCESSFUL THAT'S WHEN WE WILL THEN CONSIDER USING A SYNTHETIC PESTICIDE FOLLOWING THAT SAME TOXIC APPROACH. AND I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION KIND OF WALKS US THROUGH WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          THE POLICY ALSO REQUIRES A NOTICE BE POSTED 48 HOURS PRIOR TO APPLICATION AND THE NOTICE REMAIN IN PLACE FOR AT LEAST 24 HOURS AFTER THE APPLICATION. AND THIS IS OF COURSE UNLESS THE THE PESTICIDE ITSELF THE LABEL FOR THE PESTICIDE REQUIRES A LONGER PERIOD THAN 24 HOURS FOR REENTRY. IT ALSO REQUIRES ALL PESTICIDE APPLICATION RECORDS TO BE PROVIDED TO THE TOWN BY THE CONTRACTOR, REQUIRES THAT THE TOWN DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT PUBLIC EDUCATION AND OUTREACH PROGRAMS ABOUT THE TOWN'S OPEN POLICY INCLUDING WORKING WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS MUST BE AN IMPORTANT AND IMPORTANT PART OF TEACHERS THAT ARE CHIEF ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER AND A WORK PORTFOLIO TO SHOW TO OTHERS ABOUT HOW THEY CAN IMPLEMENT AN OPEN POLICY FOR THEIR MANAGEMENT OF THEIR GROUNDS AND FACILITIES AS WELL. 
          AND FINALLY THAT THE IPM POLICY BE REVIEWED AND EVALUATED PERIODICALLY BY STAFF TO ASSESS ITS EFFECTIVENESS, IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT AND TO MAKE CHANGES AS NECESSARY. SO AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, THIS RESOLUTION WAS REVIEWED MANY TIMES BY THE COMMITTEE SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE GOING BACK TO ALMOST A YEAR AGO ON NOVEMBER 13TH AND MOST RECENTLY ON SEPTEMBER 16TH OF LAST MONTH AT THE SEPTEMBER 16TH MEETING WE DID HEAR FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SPECIFICALLY REPRESENTATIVES ON NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS OF SOCIAL ORGANIZATION AND THEY PROVIDED ADDITIONAL REVISIONS FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE AND THAT'S INCLUDE IN YOUR PACKAGES. 
          ATTACHMENT THREE THE COMMITTEE DID FORWARD THE RESOLUTION AS I MENTIONED AS IT HAS BEEN ONE IN THE POLICY THAT I JUST OUTLINED IS ATTACHMENT TO TWO TOWN COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION BUT IN DOING SO THEY TOWN STAFF TO EVALUATE THOSE THOSE ADDITIONAL REVISIONS THAT ARE IN ATTACHMENT THREE AND PROVIDED AN EVALUATION TO TWO TOWN COUNCIL AS PART OF THIS THIS MEETING HERE THIS AFTERNOON SO THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES WILL WALK US THROUGH THAT EVALUATION AND WHAT THE REQUEST WAS BROKEN IN FIVE DIFFERENT SECTIONS. THE FIRST SECTION IS TO REMOVE THE TERM AT LEAST TOXIC FROM THE POLICY AND ALSO TO REMOVE HOW TOXICITY IS DEFINED WITHIN THE PROPOSED IPM POLICY. AFTER EVALUATION OF THOSE TWO REQUESTS THE CHANGES STAFF DID MAKE A CHANGE AND I'VE USED THIS TERM THROUGHOUT MY PRESENTATION THUS FAR WHERE WE RETAIN THE WORD THE WORD THESE TOXIC BUT WE HAD THE WORD ORGANIC FIRST IN FRONT OF THAT TO DEFINE IT AS AN FIRST THESE TOXIC APPROACH WE DID THAT BECAUSE WE FEEL IT IS AN APPROPRIATE DESCRIPTOR FOR THE POLICY THAT WE'VE IT'S ALSO REFLECTIVE OF OF OTHER BEST PRACTICE POLICIES AS WE LOOKED AT THE POLICIES AS WE LOOKED AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT ARE HELD UP AS MODEL ALL MODEL POLICIES AS IT RELATES TO HOW TOXICITY DEFINED, WE DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGE AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THE EPA IS THE EPA DOES IDENTIFY HOW TOXIC A CHEMICAL IS BASED ON STUDIES THAT THEY CONDUCT. THEY THEN ASSIGN A I HEARD YOU USED THE WORD SIGNAL WORD EARLIER WHEN A SIGNAL WORD IS BASED ON THE EPA'S EVALUATION THEY HAVE THREE CATEGORIES OF SIGNAL WORDS LEVEL THREE OR THE SIGNAL WORD CAUTION IS CONSIDERED THE LEAST TOXIC EPA LEVEL TWO OR SIGNAL WORD WARNING IS THE NEXT MORE TOXIC AND THEN FINALLY EPA EPA LEVEL ONE SIGNAL WORD DANGER IS CONSIDERED THE MOST TOXIC BY EPA STANDARDS AND THE REASON THAT WE UTILIZE THIS THIS IS AN INDUSTRY STANDARD THE EPA DOES IS DOES GO THROUGH AND DO THIS. IT'S RECOGNIZED THAT'S HOW WHEN WE GO AND BUY PESTICIDES, ANY HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE WE CAN LOOK AT A LABEL AND IDENTIFY WHETHER IT'S CAUTION, A DANGER OR A WARNING OR A DANGER LEVEL . IN ORDER TO HAVE A LESS TOXIC APPROACH WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME DEFINITION OF HOW TOXICITY IS DEFINED AND AS AGAIN AS WE LOOKED AROUND THE BEST PRACTICES AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR IP POLICIES THE EPA SIGNAL WORDS WERE THE BENCHMARK THAT MOST COMMUNITIES USE. NUMBER TWO PERTAINS TO THAT CHEMICAL SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED PESTICIDES WE AGREE WE WENT THROUGH AND CHANGED THE TERM CHEMICALS TO PESTICIDES WE GOT A LITTLE TOO LOOSE AND THEN CHANGING THAT TERM AS WE WENT THROUGH THERE WERE A COUPLE INSTANCES WHERE WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T MEAN CHEMICALS AND WE DID NOT CHANGE IT. FOR EXAMPLE WE PROVIDE NOTICE ON OUR PUBLIC PROPERTIES THAT WHEN WE'RE APPLYING PESTICIDES WANT TO LIST A CHEMICAL NAME AS WELL AS THE PESTICIDE NAMES WE 
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DID KEEP CHEMICAL NAME LISTED. A THIRD ONE IS TO REQUIRE A LICENSE PEST CONTROL ADVISER AND, TOWN STAFF AND TOWN REQUIRE A LICENSE PEST CONTROL AND TOWN STAFF DETERMINE WHEN THE USE OF SYNTHETIC PESTICIDES IS NECESSARY. WE DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGE HERE AS STATED THE POLICY TOWN STAFF IS IS THE DECISION MAKER HERE ULTIMATELY WITH THE TOWN MANAGER WE DECIDE HOW TOWN STAFF MAKES THAT DECISION AS CRAFTED. 
          THIS POLICY REQUIRES US TO EITHER CONTRACT OR BRING ON A LICENSED PEST CONTROL ADVISER. 
          WE SIMPLY WANT TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY FOR HOW WE ADMINISTER THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE ULTIMATELY DECIDE TO A CONTRACT MAY ALSO MEAN THEY MAY DECIDE TO BRING SOMEONE ON STAFF WE MAY MAY ULTIMATELY DECIDE TO TRAIN SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S ALREADY ON OUR STAFF BUT WE WANT TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY RATHER THAN BE PRESCRIBED TO US IN A POLICY FOR US TO REMOVE ANY LANGUAGE THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE'RE GOING TO PESTICIDES MAY NOT BE EFFECTIVE AGAIN, THIS IS WHEN REMOVE THE LANGUAGE. IT WAS NOT OUR INTENT TO SUGGEST THAT ORGANIC PESTICIDES ARE NOT EFFECTIVE AND SO ALSO AS WE LOOKED AT IT WE DETERMINED THAT THAT LANGUAGE UNNECESSARY SO WE REMOVED IT AND FINALLY THE REQUEST WAS 2 TO 4 BEACHES PARKS, ATHLETIC FIELDS, DOG PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS BE TREATED WITH THE SAME METHODOLOGY AND THAT METHODOLOGY THAT IS WAS AN ORGANIC PESTICIDE ONLY APPROACH UNLESS SYNTHETIC PESTICIDES ARE NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH THE PUBLIC HEALTH OR PREVENT ECONOMIC LOSS. WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED WE DID MODIFY OUR APPROACH FOR BEACHES ,PLAYGROUNDS AND WATER PARKS AND FOLLOWED AN ORGANIC ONLY. AGAIN WE ARE USING A LESS TOXIC APPROACH OF AN ORGANIC LEAST TOXIC APPROACH. SO BY SAYING ORGANIC ONLY WE USE ORGANICS AND THEN WE WILL NOT GO TO SYNTHETICS UNLESS THE THRESHOLD IS FOR NOT TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH OR TO PREVENT ECONOMIC LOSS. WE DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES FOR PARKS, FIELDS, RIGHTS OF WAYS, FACILITIES AND BUILDINGS AND OTHER TOWN PROPERTIES AND ARE MAINTAINING THAT THE PHILOSOPHY OF A ORGANIC FIRST THESE TOXIC APPROACH AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO SET A THRESHOLD FOR THE USE OF SYNTHETIC PESTICIDES AS THE PROTECT HEALTH AND PREVENT ECONOMIC LOSS THAT CAN IMPACT LEVEL OF CARE OR ESTHETIC THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN OUR PARKS AND CAN ALSO IMPACT OUR PLAYABILITY OF ATHLETIC FIELDS. 
          SOME OF THIS TOO IS ALSO THE FACT THAT TOWN STAFF THE TOWN HAS NEVER HAD AN OPEN POLICY LIKE THIS WE AREN'T QUITE SURE WE MIGHT NEED TO MAINTAIN THIS AS MAINTAIN OUR FIELDS TO THE LEVEL OF CARE AND TO THE PLAYABILITY THAT WE DESIRE WITH ORGANICS. 
          BUT THIS IS THAT WE TALKED WITH THE COMMITTEE THIS IS A DYNAMIC DOCUMENT. 
          WE WILL LEARN A LOT AS THIS GOES INTO EFFECT AND WE CAN MAKE ADDITIONAL CHANGES AS AS AS WE LEARN IMPLEMENT THOSE POLICY. AND SO THIS IS A TABLE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS THE PAST SLIDE I WANT TO JUST TO BREAK IT DOWN BY FACILITY TYPE AND WHERE WE WERE WITH THE PROPOSED IP POLICY WHAT WAS PROPOSED WITH THE NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOOD REVISION AND WAS PROPOSED WITH THE REVISED IP POLICY I IT BROKEN DOWN HERE JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THE ORGANIC FIRSTLY THESE TOXIC WAS WHAT WAS PROPOSED IN THE ORIGINAL IP POLICY FOR FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT FACILITY TYPES THE NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOOD REVISIONS THAT WAS AN ATTACHMENT THREE TOOK AN ORGANIC ONLY APPROACH TO ITEMS ONE AND TO MAINTAIN THE ORGANIC FIRST APPROACH FOR ITEMS THREE AND FOUR DROPPING THE TOXICITY APPROACH AND THEN THE REVISED IP POLICY AS I JUST WROTE AS WE NOW WITH ATTACHMENT FOUR BASED ON OUR EVALUATION OF THE NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS PROPOSED REVISIONS MAINTAINING THE ORGANIC THESE TOXIC APPROACH EXCEPT FOR BEACHES PLAYGROUNDS AND DOG PARKS WHERE WE WE TAKE AN ORGANIC ONLY APPROACH. SO BASED ON THAT TOWN BASED ON THE TOWN STAFF REVIEW OF OF THE ADDITIONAL REVISIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING WE HAVE PREPARED ATTACHMENT FOUR WITH WHICH TRACKS CHANGES FROM ATTACHMENT TO AND INCORPORATES THOSE THOSE ITEMS THAT WE ARE WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF AT LEAST AS A TOWN STAFF THAT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF AND WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF ALSO AGREES THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE AND REPLACE ATTACHMENT TWO WHICH IS ATTACHED TO YOUR RESOLUTION AND REPLACE THAT WITH THE ATTACHMENT PENDING ANY OTHER CHANGES THE TOWN COUNCIL MAY HAVE. 
          BUT ATTACHMENT FOUR IS THE DRAFT THAT WE WE DO FEEL IS WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR AND CONSISTENT WITH THE THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION COMING OUT. 
          SO IN CONCLUSION THE NEXT STEPS ASSUMING ADOPTION BY TOWN COUNCIL THIS WILL IMPLEMENT A STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM AND WILL FOR THE FIRST TIME ESTABLISH A DECISION MAKING STRATEGY FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF PRESTON TOWN OWNED AND MANAGED PROPERTIES. IT FULFILLS ALL THE GOALS WE SET OUT TO TRY TO DO TO ACHIEVE AND ALSO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT OF OUR OF OUR ISLAND. IMMEDIATE NEXT STEPS WILL INCLUDE REVIEWING ALL THOSE 
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THOSE THOSE SERVICE CONTRACTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE IP POLICY. 
          WE WILL ALSO TAKE IN DEVELOP IPM PROGRAMS SO WE HAVE TO NOW GO TAKE NOW WE HAVE THE UMBRELLA, WE HAVE THE POLICY NOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES AROUND THE ISLAND THAT WE WHETHER THE TOWN OWNS OR MANAGES AND WE HAVE TO ADOPT SPECIFIC PROGRAMS FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE. AND WHAT LEVEL OF CARE DO WE WANT TO ASSIGN TO EACH ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES? THAT'S THAT'S THE NEXT BIG STEP WE HAVE. WE ARE SEEING ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES FOR TOWN AUTHORIZATION MAINTAINING RECORDS AND PLACEMENT OF NOTIFICATIONS ON OUR PERSON. 
          WE DO UTILIZE PESTICIDES AND THEN FINALLY IN ONE YEAR AFTER COMPLETING OUR WILL COMPLETE OUR TOWN STAFF REVIEW OF THE IPM POLICY TO ASSESS IT AND IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR AND WITHOUT A PERIOD OF APPREHENSION QUESTIONS AND SO I'M GOING TO PUBLIC COMMENT COMMITTEE WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM WE DO RIGHT PAMELA EVANS I MEAN JUST 1/2 GIVE ME JUST 1/2 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TOO. 
          I'M PAMELA OVENS 78 QUARTERMASTER LANE HILTON HEAD ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA. 
          AM I OKAY TO GO NOW? YES I HOPE YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE OUR DAY BY VOTING FOR THE IP WITH THE CORRECTIONS IN GREEN MADE BY KIM COUNTY ME THAT DON'T HAVE THE BARE LANGUAGE IN IT TO QUOTE PERRY IN THE JANUARY 2024 EDITION OF LOCAL LIFE WHEN ASKED WHAT ARE YOUR MAIN GOALS FOR 2024 QUOTE I HOPE TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE LIFE FOR EVERYONE ON THE ISLAND WHILE ALSO KEEPING THE ENVIRONMENT OF BEAUTY WE LOVE INTACT AND THRIVING. 
          THAT INCLUDES PROTECTING THE WILDLIFE AND NATURAL WE HAVE THROUGHOUT HILTON HEAD ISLAND THROUGH PARKS AND GREENSPACE CLOSE QUOTE KIM AND I HAVE WORKED WITH TOWN STAFF FOR OVER TWO YEARS AND WE THINK THIS IPM VERSION IS THE SAFEST FOR EVERYONE THE ONE WITH THE GREEN CORRECTIONS. THANK YOU FOR TAKING US TO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN PATSY BRYSON CALLED ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. THANK YOU TO THE DEDICATED WORK OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. TAMARA BECKER, STEVE ALFRED PATSY BRYSON, ALEX BROWN AND ALTERNATE DAVID AMES. THIS WILL HELP MAKE GENERATIONS ISLANDERS HEALTHIER FOR YEARS TO COME. THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE COULD NOT BE HERE BUT ASKED TO BE NAMED BECAUSE THEY SUPPORT US. LORI WALLING OFF IVO ROBERTS WHELTON WILLIAM L BILL BOSLEY ROBERTA BOBBY HON ARLENE BENSON ,NANCY LEE SNEDDEN AND ALICE RITCHIE THANK YOU THANK YOU KIM DOES IT MATTER WHICH ONE IS IT? NO. GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          HELLO. MAYOR ALLEN PERRY AND COUNCIL ARE FROM ORLANDO THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR WORKING ON THIS WITH US BUT TONIGHT REALLY IS A HISTORIC VOTE TOOK A LOT OF MEETINGS TO GET HERE BUT WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT SIDE OF HISTORY DO TO BE ON STUBBS REVISED POLICY UNFORTUNATELY FAILS TO INCLUDE THE MOST BASIC COMPONENTS OF IPM PESTICIDE SAFEGUARDS AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE TONIGHT THAT YOU PLEASE REQUEST THAT THE REVISIONS WE HIGHLIGHTED ARE INCLUDED. IT'S TIME FOR THE TOWN TO START USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TOWARDS PROTECTION AND THAT POISON I ALSO WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE LIST OF THE CURRENT PESTICIDES THAT ARE BEING APPLIED IN OUR PARKS WHERE CHILDREN AND PETS PLAY. ARE YOU AWARE THAT PER TOWN STAFF THAT SOME OF OUR DO RECEIVE DAILY PESTICIDE APPLICATIONS AND THIS IS WHY WE MUST ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT CAN'T BE IGNORED ANYMORE BECAUSE IT IS A REALITY AROUND THE COUNTRY ACTUALLY GLOBALLY AND SINCE 2022 WE'VE SHARED AS A CONTRACT TOWN IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAFEGUARD PUBLIC FUNDS FROM CASH BACK PESTICIDE REWARDS. THESE PROGRAMS ARE A CLEAR CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THAT INCENTIVE HAS INCREASED USE OF PESTICIDES BY OFFERING 
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$5,000 PREPAID VISA CASH GIFT CARDS. THE MORE MONEY THE MORE THE MORE PESTICIDES THAT ARE SPRAYED, MORE CASH BACK REWARDS CONTRACTORS AND FOLKS RECEIVE AND THAT UNFORTUNATELY TURNS PUBLIC SPACES AGAIN NOT IN HILTON HEAD AROUND THE COUNTRY AND TWO PESTICIDE DUMP ZONES TONIGHT WE CAN CHANGE THE COURSE IF THIS IS TRULY A LIVING BREATHING DOCUMENT AS STAFF CLAIMS IT'S TIME TO INCLUDE THE MOST BASIC PESTICIDE SAFEGUARDS HAVE A POLICY THAT EVERY CONTRACTOR CAN UTILIZE AND IT APPLIES TO LANDSCAPE AND PEST CONTROL WHICH I THINK YOU SHARED SEAN THAT IT WILL APPLY IF WE CAN GET CLARIFICATION IT APPLIES TO ANY CONTRACTOR WITH THE TOWN THAT APPLIES PESTICIDES THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND AS A NONPROFIT NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS FREE OF COST HAS HELPED OVER HUNDRED CITIES, COUNTIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS BAN GLYPHOSATE AND ADOPT ORGANIC OR REGENERATIVE POLICIES FREE OF INDUSTRY INFLUENCE FROM LOCAL PARKS TO STATEWIDE INITIATIVES LIKE NEW YORK'S GLYPHOSATE STATEWIDE BAN. 
          WE'VE PROVEN THAT YOU CAN HAVE BEAUTIFUL PARKS ATHLETIC AND OPEN SPACE WITHOUT THE NEED OF SYNTHETIC PESTICIDES AND WHAT'S REALLY TELLING IS NOT ONE SINGLE POLICY BEEN OVERTURNED AND REVERSED. SO TONIGHT WHAT WILL YOU STAND FOR AS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS A POLICY PROTECTS PESTICIDE USE ARE ONE THAT PROTECTS THE PEOPLE. 
          PLEASE VOTE TO INCLUDE OUR REQUESTED PROVISIONS TO BRING FORWARD A A POLICY FREE OF INDUSTRY INFLUENCE THAT WILL SAFEGUARD OUR CHILDREN RESIDENTS WILDLIFE AND ISLAND FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. THANK THANK YOU JEN. LUCKY GOOD MAYOR AND SO MY NAME IS JEN BYLONG HE I'M THE OWNER OF GROUP MEDIA'S MY HUSBAND AND WE ALSO AN ORGANIZATION CALLED RESCUE PAWS INTERNATIONAL AND WE ALSO JUST STARTED THE U.S. BASED BREAKING THE WE ARE BUT TODAY I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT PETS A VOLUNTEER AT HILTON HEAD HUMANE AND I'M ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE FROG CAT PROGRAM 30 YEARS AGO AND HILTON HEAD HUMANE AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS WELL FIRST OF ALL I THINK GUYS ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THIS IPM IS A GREAT CONCEPT AND A GREAT DOCUMENT AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS URGE YOU ADOPT IT WITH THOSE REVISIONS THAT WERE SPOKEN ABOUT BY THE OTHER TWO LADIES. 
          ANECDOTALLY I HAVE A CLIENT SHE WAS WALKING HER DOG ONE DAY AND THERE WAS AN AREA THAT HAD BEEN TREATED WITH A GLOWING PHOSPHATE BASED PESTICIDE. SHE SHE SAW THERE WAS A LITTLE SIGN A WARNING SIGN WITHIN 1015 SECONDS SHE SHOOT HER DOG AWAY HIM INSIDE HER DOG MIGHT HAVE IT WAS A MALTESE MIGHT HAVE LICKED HIS PAWS ABOUT THAT AND AN HOUR LATER WENT INTO A CONVULSIVE AND WAS TAKEN TO THE EMERGENCY BAG BAILEY PASS AWAY AND THIS WAS DEVASTATING FOR HER AND WHAT THAT DID IT OPENED MY EYES NOW I KNOW THERE'S COUNTRIES AND AROUND THE WORLD I'VE LIVED IN AUSTRALIA, THERE'S COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD THAT HAVE OUTRIGHT PHOSPHATE FOR HEALTH REASONS AND ALL OF THAT AND WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT PETS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO LOW TO THE GROUND IN THERE JUST THEY'LL JUST WALK ON ANYTHING LIKE THEIR PAWS AND I KNOW MY DOG EATS ANYTHING FINE. SO ON THE GROUND AND JUST SEEING THIS I THINK IT JUST REALLY OPENED MY EYES TO THE IMPACT ON PETS MY HUSBAND'S A RESCUE TRAUMA VET TECH AND HE HAS ALSO CASES OF THIS WITH SEIZURES AND SORT OF THING AND SO WE HAVE A PET BUSINESS AND WE USE WE JUST FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS WE'VE ALWAYS USED ORGANIC, NONTOXIC ALL, NATURAL INSIDE AND OUTSIDE AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME AND JUST KIND OF SEE TAKE A LOOK AROUND WHAT WE'VE DONE WE'VE NEVER HAD PROBLEMS SO I'M JUST URGING YOU TO CONSIDER THE REVISED I PM THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL BRINGING BACK TO THE TO THE DIAS WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE RIGHT TO A A LITTLE COMPLICATED I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE ON THE TO ADOPT ATTACHMENT FOR WHICH STAFF HAS REVISED WITH THE AMENDMENTS NOT INCLUDED IN THE NON TOXIC NEIGHBORHOOD REVISIONS SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANY OTHER NON TOXIC REVISIONS THAT ARE NOT MADE IN THE STAFF 
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RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THAT SUPPORT REQUEST THAT THE NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE MADE AND IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION I WOULD SAY THE FOLLOWING IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD TO GET TO PLACE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING ACROSS THE FINISH LINE TODAY. 
          WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING WE HAVE INCORPORATED PRACTICES WHICH I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE AND SUPPORT. ONCE FOLKS AND THE COMMUNITY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION PLACES THAT WERE BEING SPRAYED WITHOUT NOTICE AND SO THE GOALS THAT ARE SET FORTH AND THE STAFF REPORT ARE THE ONES THAT THAT I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING ALL ALONG FIRST IS THAT WE REDUCE OR ELIMINATE PESTICIDES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND MOVE TO ORGANIC SECOND IS THAT FOLKS BE PROVIDED NOTICE ADEQUATE NOTICE OF WHAT'S BEING USED ON OUR PARKS AND OUR PLAYGROUNDS ARE AS FLAT FIELDS EVERYWHERE AND ALSO ALONG OUR MARSH AREAS NEED TO KNOW WHAT IF ANYTHING IS BEING USED THERE SO THAT WHOEVER NO MATTER WHO THE WE IS WE CAN MAKE A CONSCIOUS AND EDUCATED DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO BE THERE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT OUR CHILDREN, OUR PETS ALL OF OUR FAMILY MEMBERS, OUR VISITORS TO BE EXPOSED TO WHATEVER IS USED ON OUR FACILITIES AND THEN ALSO FINALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TOWN THROUGH ITS POLICY IS IN CONTROL AND NOT OUR CONTRACTORS WHO CHOOSE TO DO OTHERWISE. SO THOSE ARE THE CENTRAL GOALS I THINK THIS DOES THAT THE LAST REVISIONS TO BE INCLUDED THOSE REQUESTED BY NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS ARE THE FINAL ONES TO GET US ACROSS THIS FINISH LINE THERE'S STILL SOME CODE WORDS IN HERE AND SOME TROUBLING LANGUAGE AND THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF IT AND HELP US MOVE FORWARD AND BEFORE I ASK FOR A SECOND, SEAN, CAN YOU PULL UP THAT SECTION OF THE PRESENTATION WHERE IT DOESN'T WHERE IT DOESN'T MATCH UP BETWEEN THE ROAD BLOCKS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TOXIC WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU SOME MR. LEININGER I ALSO THINK PULL UP BECAUSE THE GREEN TEXT HELPS. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR IN THAT WHICH IS YOUR BACK IN. 
          YES. SO THERE ARE SOME CHANGES MADE BY THE STAFF SO I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THOSE CHANGES BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY TOOK OUT SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT AND OTHER PLACES THAT WEREN'T NOTED IN THE GREEN BUT MY MOTION INCLUDES ALL OF THIS AND THE GREEN AS WELL AS THE CHANGES THE STAFF MADE TO TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CHANGES AND SPECIFICALLY IT INCLUDES THE ORDER OF PESTICIDE CONTROL FOR PARKS AND ATHLETIC FIELDS WHICH WERE NOT TREATED THE SAME AS BEACHES, PLAYGROUNDS AND DOG PARKS BECAUSE THOSE ARE PLACES WHERE WE DO HAVE CHILDREN AND PETS AND WE NEED THAT KIND OF PROTECTION TO BE CLEAR THAT IT'S ALL THERE RECOMMENDATIONS THANK YOU THERE A SECOND ON MRS. BRYSON'S MOTION I'LL SECOND VERY SHORT IF YOU WOULD REAL QUICK I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE WHAT WAS PROVIDED AND THEN WHAT WAS THE THE THE MODIFICATIONS FROM FROM A 2 TO 2 GROUPS JUST AS WELL JUST TO SHOW SIMILARITIES AND HOW CLOSE WE'VE BEEN. 
          SURE SO I'LL TRY AND DO THAT THEY'RE ON THEY'RE ON TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS SO I MAY HAVE TO JUMP BACK FORTH HERE A LITTLE BIT. WELL, I'M GOING TO JUMP IN BECAUSE YOU GO LINE BY LINE. ONE THING I MEAN IF I'M IF I'M JUST GOING TO JUMP IN IN HELP SEAN OUT BECAUSE HE DID INTERCEPT A FEW OF THESE INITIATIVES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO SEAN AND T.J. AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICE PUBLIC SAFETY AND AND MS.. HAVENS AND KIM AND EVERYBODY THANKS YOUR HELP. 
          SEAN, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT YOU GO THROUGH SECTION BY SECTION BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE VERY CLEAR IS HOW CLOSE WE ARE WITH THE GREEN TEXT AS AS WE HEAR THERE WE'RE ALMOST DEBATING OVER WORDS AND I, I THINK THAT WE'RE THERE IN CONCEPT I WILL SAY THE TOWN COUNCIL AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS HERE THIS AS OF 2023 WITH OR WITHOUT A PUBLIC POLICY IN PLACE MY DIRECTION AND OPERATION DIRECTION WAS TO STAFF TO IMPLEMENT AND AND DISCONNECT THE USE OF ALL GLYPHOSATE PRODUCTS FROM PLAYGROUNDS, PARKS AND WETLAND BUFFERS. AND SO THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2023 AND INCLUDES RANGER 
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PRO ROUNDUP AND EVERY OTHER NAME YOU CAN FIND BUT NO GLYPHOSATE. 
          WE ALSO DISCONTINUE THE USE OF CHEMICAL TREE TREATMENT AT THAT ISLAND PARK WHEN I HEARD COUPLE OF STORIES AS WELL I FEEL THE SAME WAY AS THE THE STORY WE JUST HEARD ABOUT THE DOG BUT I YOU KNOW I'M AGAIN NOT A DOCTOR, A SCIENTIST. I JUST KNOW THAT I'VE ASKED OUR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO MECHANICALLY MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPE ON THE OLD FAIRWAYS AND THEN MOWING AND BLOWING MID ISLAND PARK AS WE KNOW A LOT OF DOGS ARE WALK THROUGH THAT AREA EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A DOG PARK SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU SHOW SECTION FOUR OR ATTACHMENT FOUR BECAUSE IF IF IS CHEMICAL THOMAS MAKE SENSE OF IT AND KEEP MOVING. SO USE ATTACHMENT FOR MR. ORLANDO SUGGESTED AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH EACH SECTION AND THEN ATTACHMENT THREE BECAUSE THAT'S THE GREEN NOTICE THAT WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO JUST UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR ATTACHMENT THREE SO ATTACHED TO THE WRITTEN TEXT IN ATTACHMENT THREE THIS IS THE POLICY THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMITTEE AND IS INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENT TWO IN YOUR PACKET OR YOU'LL SEE AS WE GET DEEPER INTO THIS THAN ARE THE NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND IT'S OVER THE TOP OF THAT. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR PURPOSE AND WE LOOK AT OUR POLICY STATEMENT WE ARE ALIGNED THERE IS NO COMMENTS NO CHANGES TO THAT ONE CHANGE WE MADE IN THIS SECTION I NOTED IN OUR IN MY PRESENTATION WAS THAT IN ORANGE IS BETTER DEFINED THIS TERM THESE TOXIC WE HAVE THE WORD ORGANIC FIRST THESE TOXIC IPM PEST MANAGEMENT GUIDING PRINCIPLES THIS IS WHERE WE WE SAW STARTING TO SEE SOME CHANGES FIRST OF ALL MODIFYING THAT TERM THESE TOXIC HERE TO JUST SAY THE FOLLOWING WHICH WE DID NOT INCORPORATE WE OUT THESE TOXIC APPROACH WE CHANGED THE TERMS FROM CHEMICAL TO PESTICIDE WAS SUGGESTED AND THEN IS RELEASED THE NUMBER THREE THERE WAS A A REWRITE OF NUMBER THREE WE DID INCLUDE MUCH OF THIS THAT'S IN IN NUMBER THREE WITH THE EXCEPTION FOR THE PART THAT SPEAKS ON THE BEGINNING OF LINE FOUR OR IT SAYS BY A LICENSED PEST CONTROL ADVISOR IF WE COMPARE A BACK AND FROM THREE FROM THIS ATTACHMENT TO WHAT WE PROPOSED WE LIMITED EXPOSURE TO SYNTHETIC PESTICIDES AND WE HAVE ALL OF THAT INCLUDED IN THERE WE SIMPLY DROPPED THE LICENSE PEST CONTROL ADVISORY FOR THE REASONS I STATED. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE IF YOU ADOPT A POLICY AS SUCH WHEN WE WANT STAFF IN CHARGE NOW I WILL GO FIND A LICENSED PEST CONTROL ADVISER. 
          I CAN'T BRING THIS IN-HOUSE FAST ENOUGH BUT AGAIN THAT IS A CONSULTANT THAT IS A CONTRACTOR THAT'S NOT TOWN STAFF. SO ELSE CANSDALE A LICENSE? YES. 
          YOU KNOW SO THE NEXT SECTION SO THAT WAS THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE THE PEST MANAGEMENT GUIDING PRINCIPLES. WE THEN GET INTO THE APPLICABILITY OF TOWN SERVICE CONTRACTS. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS QUESTIONED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS APPLIES TO ALL PEST MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES WHETHER THAT'S A TOWN ACTIVITY OR IT'S A CONTRACTED SERVICE ACTIVITY IF IT'S A LANDSCAPING DIFFERENCE IN OUR FACILITIES IT'S IF WE'RE MANAGING PEST THIS POLICY APPLIES. 
          HOWEVER THERE WERE NO CHANGES IN ATTACHMENT THREE TO THE APPLICABILITY THERE WERE NO CHANGES WHEN WE GET INTO THE PROCEDURES SECTION ABOUT PREVENTION THERE WERE NO CHANGES TO THE SECTION RELATED TO THERE WERE NO CHANGES TO THE SECTION REGARDING NON-CHEMICAL CONTROL MEASURES WE MAKE SURE TO GO BACK AND FORTH WE DIDN'T CHANGE TERM IN THIS SECTION FROM NON NON-CHEMICAL TO NON PESTICIDE MEASURES AS WAS REQUESTED THAT AS WE CAN MOVE THAT INTO THE CHEMICAL CONTROL MEASURES AGAIN ANOTHER CHANGE TO DROP THE WORD CHEMICAL AND CALL THIS A PESTICIDE CONTROL MEASURE. WE WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH SECTIONS 1 TO 3 FOR FIVE WHEN GET TO SIX WE ACTUALLY WE HAVE INCLUDED THERE THE THAT ARE SEEN HERE UNDER SIX SELECTION OF A PESTICIDE CONTROL SHALL BE BASED ON THE FOLLOWING APPROACH WE DROPPED TOXICITY WE DROPPED A WEED SO WE DELETED TOXICITY IS DEFINED ON A LABEL WAS RECOMMENDED HERE WE ALSO IN B THE NEW WAY WE DROPPED THAT LANGUAGE ABOUT PEST ORGANIC PESTICIDES THAT WAS HAD AN INCORRECT THAT THAT WE DID NOT INTEND TO TO TO HAVE AND THEN WE ARE IN AGREEMENT ON THE REST OF SECTION SIX SEVEN SO THIS IS WHEN WE START TO MAKE PESTICIDE CHOICES SAW THAT AGAIN A CHANGE TO TWO FROM CHEMICAL TO PESTICIDE CONTROL WE MADE THAT 
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CHANGE AND THEN THEN BASICALLY RESTOCKING THE DECK ABOUT HOW WE THINK ABOUT PARKS AND FIELDS VERSUS PLAYGROUNDS AND DOG PARKS. SO WHAT WAS SUGGESTED IS THAT BEACHES PARKS DOG PARKS, FIELDS AND PLAYGROUNDS ALL FOLLOW AN ORGANIC PESTICIDE AN ORGANIC ONLY PESTICIDE APPROACH AND THEN WE ONLY GO TO SYNTHETICS WHEN IT'S DEEMED NECESSARY TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND ECONOMIC IMPACT BY AN ECONOMIC IMPACT. 
          AND THE ONE IMPORTANT ADD HERE IS THAT THIS ALSO B ATHLETIC FIELDS AND DOG PARKS AND AFTER SOME DISCUSSION AND TALKING WITH SEAN WE FULLY SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THAT. WE WE APPRECIATE THAT AND SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT. 
          YEAH. SO THE DIFFERENCE HERE WHILE WE SUPPORT WHAT I PRESENTED VERSUS WHAT I'M AS YOU DESCRIBED WHAT I PRESENTED THAT FOR BEACHES DOG PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS WE WOULD FOLLOW THAT ORGANIC ONLY APPROACH PLAYGROUNDS DOG PARKS RIGHTS AWAY WE WERE ALIGNED ON WE WERE ALIGNED AND EVERYTHING ELSE FROM RIGHTS AWAY FACILITIES AND BUILDINGS OTHER TOWN PROPERTIES AND THEN THERE WERE NO OTHER CHANGES TO THE BALANCE OF THE DOCUMENT IF I RECALL YES THERE WERE NO OTHER CHANGES TO THE BALANCE OF OF OF OF DOCUMENTS. 
          SO REALLY THE THE ONE THE ONE AREA WHERE WE ARE NOT PERFECTLY ALIGNED IS IN IN BEACHES, PARKS, DOG PARKS, ATHLETIC FIELDS AND PLAYGROUNDS AND AS YOU HEARD FROM MR. ORLANDO TOWN STAFF WOULD SUPPORT FOLLOWING THIS AS WAS WRITTEN AND IF I COULD ADD SOME SOME FLAVOR TO THAT WE THOUGHT A LOT THIS AND I DO APPRECIATE TIM AND TEAM PUSHING US TO PUT SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT INTO PRACTICE THROUGH OUR CONTRACTOR. 
          FIRST AND FOREMOST THIS IS A BIGGER STEP THAN WE'VE EVER TAKEN IMPLEMENTING IS ALWAYS THE HARD PART THROUGH CONTRACTORS I FOR ME AND I HAD A LONG TALK WITH SHAWN ABOUT THIS AND ON THE SOCCER FIELD A LOT WHETHER THERE'S SOME WEEDS OR NOT LONG TERM WILL BE A TBD YOU KNOW. BUT FOR ME I'D BE PROUD TO SAY IT'S ORGANIC ONLY BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO SET OUR EXPECTATIONS APPROPRIATELY. IT IS A DIFFERENT BUSINESS A NEW BUSINESS HAVE TO GET IN REALLY WHETHER AND WHETHER IT'S CHEMICAL OR PESTICIDE. 
          NOW THE INTENT IS ORGANICS. THE INTENT IS TO BECOME EXPERTS THIS FIELD AT A STAFF LEVEL AND NOT HAVE TO RELY ON SOMEBODY ELSE AND THROUGH SOMEBODY ELSE'S COMPANY. 
          WE CAN'T GET THERE FAST ENOUGH. I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE IN THIS POLICY AND SHAWN, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT ADVISE IT MEANT BY THAT LICENSED PEST CONTROL ADVISOR AS PART OF THE AMENDMENT AND THAT WE HAVEN'T COME TO TERMS ON I BECAUSE MY FEEDBACK AND I WOULD BE HAPPY ANYTHING YOU HAVE SEEN SO I JUST WANT TO BE I WANT TO REITERATE AND REITERATE THAT AND STATED THAT THAT THAT SECTION OF IT REQUIRES TO GO OUT AND GET A SEPARATE CONTRACT PERSON TO A CONTRACTOR STAFF MEMBER YEAH IT'S JUST THE STAFF MEMBER SO FAR NOT LICENSE AND WE WROTE WE WILL EITHER IDENTIFY A STAFF MEMBER OR HIRE MEMBER THAT IS LICENSED OR CAN BECOME YOU OR THAT HAS THE SKILL SET AND THE WHEREWITHAL AND THE THE DESIRE TO BECOME THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALREADY WORKING THROUGH. 
          SO MY QUESTION ON THAT THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS THAT IT TAKES TO GET THAT DESIGNATION, WHAT IS REQUIRED WE CAN HAVE IT IN PLACE BY THE TERM OF IMPLEMENTING THIS. 
          ALL RIGHT. COMMENTS CAN I FOLLOW UP ON THAT NOT TALK THE LICENSE CONTROL BUT IS TOWN STAFF NOW AGREEING? I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT PARKS AND ATHLETIC FIELDS ARE GOING TO BE TREATED THE SAME AS BEACHES DOG PARKS AND PLAYGROUND AREAS. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. 
          AS LONG WE BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR. 
          OKAY. LONG AS WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE AND THAT THE GRASS MIGHT NOT BE PERFECTLY GREEN WITHOUT ANY ANY IMPACTS TO IT ESPECIALLY AS WE IMPROVE CHAPLIN AND CROSSINGS IN THE FUTURE. I'M GOOD AS LONG AS THERE'S NO ROCKS OR POTHOLES KIDS TO TRIP THE STREAMS I'M BUT THAT SPECIFIC ITEM IS NOT YET THE MOTION THAT WAS PREPARED FOR THE TOWN SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDED AS A PART OF THE MOTION WHETHER IN WELL IT WOULD BE IN ITS PRICES ALREADY. THAT'S CORRECT BUT YEAH AS PRESIDENT I MADE THE MOTION TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN GREEN. 
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SO MY QUESTION TO MR. BRYSON IS WOULD YOU WILLING TO REMOVE THE LICENSE CONTRACTOR THAT SEEMS BE THE STUMBLING BLOCK RIGHT NOW ISN'T IT IN THAT ONE SUBSECTION I THINK THE THE NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS CAN SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES BUT AS I UNDERSTAND THE TOWN STAFF DOESN'T YET HAVE THE EXPERTIZE STAFF AND SO THAT'S WHY THE LANGUAGE WAS INCLUDED AND MY CONCERN WAS ALREADY HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE CONTRACTING WITH US TO DO THIS WORK YOU ARE LICENSED PEST CONTROL LICENSED PEST CONTROL OPERATORS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE REST OF THE TERM IS BUT WE DON'T WANT TO USE FOLKS WHO ARE DOING THE WORK. 
          THEY'LL SAY YEAH WE NEED TO USE THAT. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND AND MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO DO TO SAY THAT A LICENSED PEST CONTROL SO TOWN STAFF INCLUDING A LICENSE AS CONTROL OPERATOR I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO CALL THEM SO THAT THAT SAYS THAT THE TOWN STAFF SOMEONE WITH THAT CAPABILITY IF I JUST KNOW THAT JOHN IF I COULD JUST FOR CLARIFICATION SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LICENSORS IN THIS CASE OR REFERRING TO HERE IS AN ADVISORY LICENSED PEST CONTROL ADVISER AND THE OTHER IN THE OTHER INSTANCE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE THE ACTUAL APPLICATION THAT IS A LICENSED AS THAT IS A LICENSED APPLICATOR I'M ALLOWED BACK TO THE ROOM I BELIEVE THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE INDIVIDUALS AGENCIES. THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN TERMS OF THE LANGUAGE AND WHERE'S THE SECTION WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE STAFF MUST MAKE THE DECISION NOT THE CONTRACTOR IT'S JUST CONTRADICTORY THAT SECTION IT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY WITH TOWN COUNCIL AND ONE SECTION WE'RE SAYING THAT IT IS NOT A CONTRACTOR THAT WILL TELL US OR HELP US MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. IT WILL BE STAFF AND THEN THIS OTHER IS CONTRADICTORY WHERE IT'S TELLING US WE MUST RELY UPON LICENSED AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NOBODY INTERNAL THAT'S LICENSED SO HOW IS THAT AND WE SET THAT ASIDE FOR A MOMENT AND AND I'LL PONDER THE QUESTION OF MR. JAMES. I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHERS WHOSE FOLLOWING OR CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE CHART WHERE YOU HAD? I THINK THERE WERE FIVE AREAS OF WHAT HAD BEEN INCORPORATED AND WHAT HAD NOT BEEN. 
          YES, I THINK WE'RE CLOSE TO AGREEMENT ON THIS ONE EXCEPT FOR WITH REGARD TO THE LICENSE PEST CONTROL ADVICE OR YES, THAT'S NOT THAT CHART THE ONE THAT HAD MORE LANGUAGE IN IT, THE ONLY ONE THE ACTUAL TEXT THAT YES. OH IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? NO, IT'S THE OTHER CHART THAT YOU HAD HAD MORE LANGUAGE IN IT INSTEAD OF IN THE POWERPOINT AN ORANGE ARGUMENT, A STAFF REPORT. 
          YEAH, A COUPLE PAGES BEFORE THAT. OH, THERE WE GO. 
          THERE WE GO. SO OOPS IT TOOK OVER. I SEE MY LIFE FLASHING REFORMING. OH, THERE IT IS. SO WHAT NONTOXIC WANTS TO DO IS TO REMOVE THE TERM LESS TOXIC BECAUSE THAT'S A TRIGGER TERM THAT THE INDUSTRY USES. 
          SO THE TOWN IS ADDED ORGANIC FIRST WHICH IS GREAT BUT CAN THESE TOXIC THERE WHICH MEANS THAT YOU KIND MODIFIES ORGANIC FIRST SO YOU ALREADY HAVE ON PAGE THREE UNDER SECTION SIX THE TERM LEAVES TOXIC APPROACH BECAUSE YOU SET OUT WHAT THE APPROACH IS WHICH IS ORGANIC FIRST. SO WHAT I WONDERED IS IS THAT IF THE STAFF WOULD BE AMENABLE TO REMOVING THE TERMS TOXIC EVERYWHERE IT APPEARS IT IS WOULD IT'S NOT IT'S IS INCLUDED I'M SORRY POSTED ON PAGES ON PAGE ONE UNDER POLICY IMPLEMENTING AND ORGANIC FIRST CONNOLLY'S TOXIC AND OUR PEST MANAGEMENT GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND FIRST LADIES TOXIC AND THEN NUMBER THREE UNDER GUIDING PRINCIPLES ORGANIC FIRST LADY'S TITLE IS TOXIC SO AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE OTHER PLACES REMAINING SO IT THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO INCORPORATE THE REVISIONS REQUESTED BY NONTOXIC SO WE TAKE ALL OF THOSE TOXIC PHRASES OUT BECAUSE YOU'VE 
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ALREADY REMOVED THEM IN ONE PLACE WHEN I REMOVE THEM IN THOSE THREE PLACES ON THE FIRST PAGE AS REQUESTED GONE IS THAT AN OVERSIGHT OR WAS IT INTENTIONAL TO LEAVE IT IN? IT WAS INTENTIONAL LEAVE THEN BECAUSE EARLIER WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE POLICY IS LEAST TOXIC APPROACH AND THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN SECTION SIX FOUR IS REALLY KIND OF DUPLICATIVE OF OTHER THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY INCLUDED AS IS HOW WE GET TO IT. 
          SO IN SECTION SIX WE STILL TALK ABOUT THE EPA LEVEL, WE STILL TALK ABOUT THE SIGNAL WORDS ARE IN THERE AND SO IT WAS IT WAS DUPLICATIVE LANGUAGE THAT WAS THAT WAS REMOVED AS SUGGESTED BY BY THE GROUP. SO IT WAS IT IT WAS IT WAS NOT A MISTAKE. 
          IT IS THE INTENT TO BE ORGANIC FIRST OR IS IT TO BE LEAST TOXIC SO ORGANIC FIRST AND THEN THESE TOXIC AND I THINK WE NEED TO REMOVE THESE TOXIC JUST SAID ORGANIC FIRST THEN LEAST TOXIC SO YEAH ORGANICS IS A MODIFIER AND IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. PESTICIDES WHETHER IT'S ORGANIC THEY HAVE LEVELS OF TOXICITY SO THAT THE APPROACHES TO USE AND WHETHER WE'RE USING ORGANICS OR WE'RE USING IF WE'RE IF WE'RE GOING SYNTHETICS WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH THE LEAST TOXIC ORGANIC PESTICIDE AND THEN PROGRESS OUR WAY UP TO POTENTIALLY ORGANIC PESTICIDES THAT ARE THAT EVER HAVE A HIGHER TOXICITY AND SO ON. AND THAT'S WHAT SETS FORTH LATER IS IT'S ORGANIC FIRST AND THEN IT DOESN'T SAY IS A LEAST TOXIC POLICY. 
          I THINK IN OUR IN OUR POLICY STATEMENT WE SAY IT'S ORGANIC FIRST THESE TOXIC IP POLICY AND WE WERE ESTABLISHING AT THE BEGINNING THAT THIS IS A FIRST LEAST TOXIC PM AT YEAH YOU'RE MIXING TWO TERMS THAT ARE CONFLICTING THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING I JUST DON'T SEE THE MAJOR PROBLEM WITH REMOVING THESE TOXIC IN THOSE THREE PLACES BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN REMOVED BECAUSE. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO TESTS IN THAT SAME CHART NUMBER THREE IS WHEN WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT LICENSED PEST CONTROL ADVISOR IN THE NUMBER FIVE YOU'VE NOW AGREED TO. SO IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THE LAST ARE TAKING OUT THESE TOXIC THEN WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE INDEPENDENT ADVISORY STREAMS ON THE LEAST TOXIC SEEMS TO ME THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHAT WE ARE TO LEARN OVER SIX MONTHS OVER A YEAR AND HOW WE EVALUATE ON AN ONGOING BASIS I'M LEAVING IT IN WITH THE PROVISO OR THE UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL REVIEW THAT ISSUE IN SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON. YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB UP TO THIS POINT AND AND I APPRECIATE THE DIRECTION I'D ASK YOU A QUESTION THAT'S TO EVALUATION. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE IS IT REALISTIC THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OVER TIME BY THE CHOICES WE MAKE OF LANDSCAPING IN TERMS OF CHOICES? AND LET ME JUST LEAVE IT AT AT THAT. I'M COMFORTABLE AS A STAFF WE ARE LEANING INTO THIS AND LEARNING OVER TIME AND HOW WE CAN GET BETTER AND DO THINGS THIS THIS IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME FOR US TO ADJUST HOW OUR HOW WE HOW OUR PRINCIPLES AND PRACTICES AND HOW WE DO THINGS. 
          BUT YEAH PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME HICCUPS ALONG THE WAY BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BUT I DO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE CAN WE CAN IMPLEMENT THIS AND WE CAN ALSO GET BETTER OVER TIME. ON THE SECOND ITEM A LICENSE ADVISER I I'M LEANING ON THE TOWN MANAGER TO SAY THAT WE CAN COVER THAT ISSUE ON STAFF AGAIN BE EVALUATED IN SIX MONTHS WHAT'S THE EXPOSURE THAT THE TOWN IS REALLY SUBJECTED TO BY NOT HAVING THAT ADVISER ON BOARD? I'M NOT SURE THAT WE ARE IN A POSITION TODAY TO HAVE THAT 
          [02:00:03]
UNDERSTANDING BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A ROBUST POLICY AND WE OUGHT TO IMPLEMENT IT. MR. BROWN THAT WOULD BE MY AS PRIME OBVIOUSLY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE NOW AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE EXPERTS IN CONVERSATION AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOVING FORWARD TODAY. I'M HOPING WE WILL THIS TODAY BUT I WOULD ASK THAT THERE MR. LANDO AS WE AS WE LEARN THIS NEW BUSINESS BECAUSE IS A NEW BUSINESS RIGHT. YOU MENTIONED THE EXPECTATIONS MORE SO EXPECTATIONS OF CONDITIONS. I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THAT OKAY WE NEED REGULAR REPORTS ON THAT. SINCE WE ARE GOING INTO A NEW BUSINESS THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S A COST INVOLVED IN THIS AND THINK THE BUDGETARY IMPLICATIONS NEEDS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AS WELL. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS NEW BUSINESS. 
          THANK YOU MS. BRYSON. AND IN RESPONSE TO MR. JAMES QUESTION I'LL OFFER A COMPROMISE IS IF WILL AGREE TO TAKE AT LEAST TOXIC ON THE THREE PLACES ON PAGE ONE I'LL TAKE OUT THE LICENSE PEST CONTROL ADVICE IS THAT JUST TO BE BEFORE STAFF TO THAT LET ME JUST JUMP INTO THAT CONVERSATION ALSO CLEARLY THIS WHOLE NEW BUSINESS I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THIS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW STAFF IS NOT EQUIPPED AND TO SOME DEGREE THE EXPERTS THAT ARE DOING THIS ON DAILY BASIS ARE OUR CONTRACTORS AND I GET THE RUB THERE BUT AT THE SAME TIME I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE READY TO HAVE STAFF IN THE FIELD ENOUGH TO, UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS AS EXPECTATIONS ARE CONCERNED. SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PIECE OF IT IS JUST THAT WE PUT A LOT ON OUR STAFF THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REALLY REALIZE THERE'S DEFINITELY A TRANSITIONAL PIECE TO IT. YEAH, IT'S BETTER I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF PRACTICAL MATTERS AND . MY COUNCILMAN BROWN I AGREE. 
          I HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE FIELDS AND SETTING OUR EXPECTATIONS AND WHILE WE'RE WORLD CLASS COMMUNITY WHO IN MY OPINION SHOULD BE TRYING IN COMPETITIVE ATHLETICS ON TOP OUR FIELDS I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE ADVANTAGE BEING ABLE TO STATE TO OTHER TEAMS AND OTHER TOWNS WHO WOULD WANT TO COME AND PLAY HERE THAT OUR FIELDS ARE TOP NOTCH SO I WILL BE INTERESTED SEEING OVER TIME HOW THIS HOW THIS IMPACTS THAT ALSO INTERESTED IN HEARING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THOSE COSTS THAT IT WOULD BE ANTICIPATE IT AND ASSUMING THERE'S ADDITIONAL COSTS WITH A CHANGE IN THE WAY WE DO THINGS AND THEN THIRD QUESTION IS OUR CONTRACTORS WHO I, I HAVE MAYBE MORE FAITH THAN OTHER PEOPLE IN THAT WHEN WE CONTRACT WITH THEM AND WE ASK FOR SPECIFICS THAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AND THEY'RE GOING BEHIND OUR BACK AND DOING OTHER THINGS THAT IS WHERE I'M GOING TO STAND UNTIL I'M PROVEN WRONG. 
          BUT HAVE OUR CONTRACTORS HAS THIS BEEN DISCUSSED OUR CONTRACTORS ARE THEY ON BOARD? DO THEY OKAY WITH THE FACT THAT THEIR CONTRACTS WILL BE REWRITTEN ETC. THIS WILL BE A A CHANGE OF BUSINESS FOR THEM AS WELL. SO WE WILL BE ON THE LEADING EDGE OF THIS BUT THEY DO HAVE ORGANIC PESTICIDES AT THEIR AT THE READY THAT THEY CAN THEY CAN HELP US IMPLEMENT THEY JUST NEED TO BE TOLD WHAT WHAT WE WANT AND HOW WE WANT IT DONE OKAY AND IS AN ADDITIONAL COST OTHER THAN THE IDEA OF TRAINING AN ADDITIONAL PERSON ON STAFF WHICH OBVIOUSLY WILL COST SOMETHING. SO AS FAR AS THE OF THE APPLICATIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT'S OUT THERE AND. 
          IT'S IT'S MIXED. IT'S VERY DEPENDENT ON THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEIR LEVELS OF CARE. THERE'S SOME THAT SAY THERE WAS THERE WAS NO MEANINGFUL COST. 
          THERE WAS A SLIGHT THE COST INCREASE THERE'S OTHERS SHOW THERE WAS THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT OFF COST BUT THE BODY OF WORK IS MIXED SO YOU CAN'T POINT TO AND SAY YES THERE'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE OFTENTIMES WHEN WE TALK TO OTHERS IN IN IN THIS FIELD IS THAT AT TIMES THE ORGANIC YOU MAY NEED TO PUT DOWN MORE OF THE ORGANIC PESTICIDE TO GET THE SAME RESULTS THAT A SYNTHETIC DID AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BACK AND FORTH WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LEVEL OF CARE WE MAY HAVE TO BALANCE THAT LEVEL OF CARE WITH HOW MUCH PESTICIDE WE'RE PUTTING IN THE GROUND BECAUSE THE GOAL IS THAT THIS ISN'T TO PUT MORE PESTICIDE TO THE GROUND EVEN NORTH ORGANIC IT'S MINIMIZE THE USE OF PESTICIDES. 
          [02:05:01]
SO IT'S MIXED YES THERE WILL BE SOME STAFF COST BUT TO BE IN CHARGE AND CONTROL OF THIS GOING TO ASSESS ASSESS IT ALL I WOULD SAY A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES WE'VE CALLED THEY LARGE STAFFS THAT THEY CAN TRAIN UP AND IMPLEMENT IN-HOUSE SO COSTS ARE THEIR TIME. 
          IT'S REALLY THE COUNCILS I EXPECTATIONS I HEARD IT'S A NEW BUSINESS BUT LET US FIGURE THERE I DO NOT WANT TO SIT HERE AND PRETEND THAT OH WE CAN'T DO THIS BECAUSE IT MIGHT COST MORE. I THINK WE HAVE TO CALIBRATE OUR EXPECTATIONS ON THE ENVIRONMENT FIRST AND THEN WE HAVE TO CALIBRATE OUR EXPECTATIONS ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING THE OUTCOMES BE. I'M PROUD TO SAY THERE IS NOBODY PLAYING SPRAYING GLYPHOSATE ON ANY TOWN MANAGE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW AND I THINK THAT IS A MAJOR IN THAT DIRECTION AND IF WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT LET US HAVE SOME TO FIGURE OUT THE REST. 
          I DON'T DISAGREE AT ALL. I'M JUST RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE DOLLARS ARE SPENT AND I KNOW THEY'RE BEING SET AND SOMEONE ASKED THE QUESTIONS BUT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU IN THE LEAST AND I DO THINK I THINK I VOTED TO APPROVE THIS A WHILE BACK AS IT WAS WRITTEN THEN AND WE COULD HAVE HAD SOMETHING IN PROGRESS IN BEING AND BEING WORKED THROUGH AND THEN WE COULD HAVE WORKED OUT THE CONTINUING ISSUES THAT OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN NEEDED AT THAT POINT AND CLEARLY WE'RE AT A DIFFERENT PLACE AND I'M READY TO APPROVE IT AS THE TERM THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED IT. THANK FIRST THIS IS AN IMPRESSIVE BODY OF WORK SEAN YOUR TEAM HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB. I THINK YOU'VE LISTENED TO THE PUBLIC YOU'VE LISTENED TO INPUT, YOU'VE BEEN WILLING TO COMPROMISE AND I SALUTE YOU FOR THE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKEN THERE. I YOU FIRST I HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE COMMENTS AND THAT IS IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT TO DEVELOP AN ADDENDUM THE CONTRACTS AND SAY AND HAVE THAT ADDENDUM SUPERSEDE ANYTHING THAT EXISTS ON THE CONTRACT TO THE CONTRARY DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME RATHER THAN BURN OVER NINE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR WHATEVER. SO THAT'S JUST THE NUTS AND BOLTS COMMENT YOU COULD WORK THAT OUT FOR YOURSELF THEN FOR CLARIFICATION AS I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEFORE US RIGHT NOW IS A MOTION TO WELL FIRST WE GOT AN AMENDMENT TO DELETE THE TERM LICENSE CONTRACTOR FOR WELL FIRST WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AS WRITTEN WITH THE GREEN THAT WAS NOT THE GREEN LANGUAGE AN AMENDMENT NO THE OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT, FINE. OH, FOR CLARIFICATION THE THING THAT'S BEFORE US RIGHT NOW AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS THE DELETION OF THE TERM LICENSED CONTRACTOR . 
          THERE HAS BEEN NO FORMAL MOTION MADE ON THAT AS OF YET BUT THAT'S WHAT MR. AMES MOTION WAS. IT WASN'T A MOTION. IT WASN'T A MOTION. 
          IT WAS JUST A COMMENT. YES AND A MS. BRYSON SAID SHE WOULD SWAP IF WE REMOVE LEASE TOXIC FOR ADVISOR BUT THERE WAS NO MOTION MADE ON ANY OF THAT AS OF YET THIS THING IS GOING TO TAKE TIME THERE ARE GOING TO BE AMENDMENTS. THEY'RE GOING TO OCCUR OVER TIME BASED UPON EXPERIENCE I THINK WE'RE DANCING IN THE WEEDS AT THE MOMENT SO UNINTENDED THAT. EXACTLY THANK FOR THAT POLICY. ALL RIGHT. 
          OTHER OTHER COMMENTS I'M JUST GOING TO ASK MR. AMES WHO WAS SO KIND TO SECOND MY MOTION IF HE WOULD AGREE TO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO MAKE ALL THOSE CHANGES EXCEPT FOR THE PROVISIONS THE LICENSE PEST CONTROL ADVISER THEN I WOULD REMOVE THAT FROM THAT MOTION AND SO WE CAN ADOPT IT THAT WAY I ASK A QUESTION AT THE TIME AND YES I'M RELYING ON YOU IN THIS CASE TO BE THE ARBITER OF WHETHER OR OR NOT WE NEED THAT PERSON AND BASED ON COMMENTS THAT YOU AND VERONICA HAVE MADE IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH YOU WOULD PREFER NOT HAVING THAT BE IN THE LANGUAGE. IS THAT CORRECT CORRECT? BELIEVE IT CONTRADICTS US BEING IN CHARGE OF THE DECISION. IF I HAVE TO GO ASK THE LICENSED PEST CONTROL ADVISER IF WE NEED TO GO BEYOND AND ABOVE AND BEYOND THE ORGANIC FIRST APPROACH, THEN I'M RIGHT BACK TO ASKING A CONTRACTOR WHAT TO DO AND THAT IS A BUSINESS I PERSON PROFESSIONALLY DON'T WANT TO BE IN MUCH LONGER SO A MAYOR COUNCIL WITHOUT RESPECT FOR ME 
          [02:10:03]
AND JOHN'S POSITION AND I RESPECT THAT WHETHER IT SAYS ORGANIC FIRST AT LEAST TOXIC I KNOW THAT THE INTENT OF OUR POLICY IN FRONT OF YOU THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE THE INTENT IS ORGANIC PESTICIDES FIRST AND ONLY EPA THREE AND TWO WARNING LABELS IF IT'S AN ECONOMIC LOSS I CHALLENGE SEAN I DON'T DOUBT NO ONE WILL EVER GET TO THAT POINT UNLESS THERE'S SOME BUG WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT EATING ALL OF THE BRAND NEW GRASS AND CHAMPLIN OR IT'S FIRE ANTS EVERYWHERE WILL LOSE. RIGHT SO FOR ME THE INTENT IS CLEAR IN THAT SECTION THAT INTENT ALSO ALSO CAN INCLUDE AND SHOULD INCLUDE PARKS AND ATHLETIC FIELDS. SO SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION WHETHER YOU WANT IN THERE TO REMOVE THESE TOXIC WHETHER YOU WANT TO KEEP IN THERE LICENSED JUST KNOW THAT IF I'M CALLING A LICENSED CONTROL ADVISER UNLESS AND UNTIL I HAVE SOMEBODY HERE HIRED AND TRAINED UP I'M GOING TO BE CALLING ONE OF OUR CONTRACTORS OR A CONSULTANT AS A THIRD PARTY THAT'S ALL THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION THIS PRICE? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME AND I CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT TWO YEARS OR WE CAN CHOOSE TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL TOWN MOTION AND INCLUDE THE PARK SPEECH LANGUAGE. SO IT'S UP TO YOU TO YOU WANT TO AGREE TO THE TERMS LESS TOXIC ON PAGE ONE NOW BASED ON WHAT I'M NOT GOING TO AMEND MY MOTION AT THIS TIME. OKAY. AND I HAVE A QUESTION IF THE PLEASURE THE DECISION OF COUNCIL TO NOT APPROVE WHAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED AND THEN WE GO TO WHAT THE TOWN THAT THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR MR. COLTRANE I I HAVE A FEELING THAT IF IF WE DO NOT APPROVE THE MOTION THEN IT WOULD GO BACK. 
          I THINK ONLY ONE MOTION. MY RECOLLECTION WAS THERE WAS A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PROPOSED STAFF THERE HAS BEEN A MOTION A MOTION TO AMEND. NO, NO THERE'S ONLY THE ORIGINAL MOVE. THERE'S ONLY ONE MOTION TO INCLUDE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS RECOMMENDATIONS IN ITS ENTIRETY. THE QUESTION IS WILL THE COUNCIL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A SECOND MOTION IF HER MOTION IS DEFEATED YES. THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. SO BEFORE WE GO TO THE VOTE ON THAT, I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT THIS IS ALL A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IT HAS TAKEN A LONG TIME TO GET HERE AND THE COUNTLESS HOURS AND DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN SPENT TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS IS A GREAT HOPEFULLY IS A GREAT LEAP FORWARD AND YOU ALL HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB AND I JUST YOU HAVE TO BE COMMENDED FOR THAT REALLY DO SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE VOTE ON MRS. BRYSON'S MOTION TO ACCEPT THE NONTOXIC NEIGHBORHOOD MODIFICATIONS ON ATTACHMENT 4333 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND ALL THOSE OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND THAT WOULD 6 TO 1 IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? YES, MA'AM. 1 TO 6. 
          I'M SORRY. ONE, 26I WILL COUNCIL ADOPT THE ADOPTING ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING GROUND PRACTICE INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT POLICY WITH THE ADDITION OF GIVE ME THE LANGUAGE PARKS AND BEACHES PARKS AND ATHLETIC FIELDS THE SAME CATEGORIES BEACHES, PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS AND DOG PARKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT ANY DISCUSSION THE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU FOR THE NEW POLICY IT'S GOING TO BE THE GREAT THING IS 
          [10. Public Comment]
ANYONE UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT YES WE HAVE THREE AMBER CAN FIRST ONE GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          THAT WAS FUN. THAT WAS PRODUCTIVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSISTENCE CAM AND ENVIRONMENTAL I'M USUALLY HERE UNDER A DIFFERENT MISSION BUT TODAY I'M TO HOLD 
          [02:15:01]
IT TO 3 MINUTES BECAUSE I I'M GOING TO READ IT DISTINGUISHED BY THE WAY AMBER SEA TURTLE HILTON HEAD ISLAND I THINK YOU KNOW THAT I LIVE IN BOSTON DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL SOME OF YOU WILL STAY AND SOME OF YOU WILL GO SOON BECAUSE GROUP HAS PARTICIPATED SO MUCH IN THE PROSPERITY OF THE SEA TURTLE PATROL HILTON HEAD ISLAND MISSION. 
          I WANT TO REMIND OF YOUR SUCCESSES IN NOVEMBER 2019 YOU PASS THE WHOLE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY ORDINANCE YOU LISTENED AND WE HAVE A DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENT AS THE YEARS PROGRESS. I FIND THAT IT TAKES ABOUT THREE YEARS FOR THESE THINGS TO SINK IN AND DON'T LIE. SO THANK YOU. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD ENFORCING A NEW PERSONAL PROPERTY ORDINANCE DURING A PANDEMIC AFTER SUNSET WAS MY INITIATION THERE. IT WAS WEIRD BUT WE DID IT SO THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          AND MARCH 2021 WE PRESENTED A LIGHTING ORDINANCE REVISION WHICH CATAPULTED US INTO THE 21ST CENTURY OF SEA TURTLE BIOLOGY MUNICIPAL CODE ONCE AGAIN IMPROVING THE ONE IN 100 SURVIVAL RATE OF LOGGERHEAD HATCHLINGS LEAVING BEACH THEN SURVIVING FOR THREE DAYS TO BEGIN A VERY JOURNEY ACROSS THE ATLANTIC AND MOST RECENTLY AND JULY OF 2020 FOR SEA TURTLE PATROL HILTON HEAD ISLAND BECAME A TOWN AFFILIATED AGENCY SINCE THE OF OUR REORGANIZATION IN 2017 WE HAVE DILIGENTLY WORKED TO PRESERVE ENDANGERED SEA TURTLES SPREAD AWARENESS FOR GOOD ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND. SHARE THIS WONDER WITH THE COMMUNITY AND VISITORS WHILE REPRESENTING HILTON HEAD WITH AN IMPRESSIVE PROGRAM. 
          I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS. BUT IN ADDITION TO GIVING MY CONSERVATION DISSERTATIONS USUALLY FORCE ME OVER 3 MINUTES I GAINED A MENTOR DURING THE TENURE OF DAVID AMES I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT MUNICIPAL BUT I DID KNOW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT AND. I THINK HE NOTICED THAT MAYBE HE SAW THE POTENTIAL I WANT TO EXTEND A VERY SINCERE THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN AMES FOR TRANSLATING MY PASSION FOR THE ENVIRONMENT WHERE I WAS RAISED INTO EFFECTIVE WORDS THIS VERY PLACE THANK YOU. 
          I'M STILL STRIVING TO IMPRESS ALL OF YOU WITH INITIATIVES TO COME FOR PRESERVING OUR BEACHES FOR THE TURTLES AND EVERYBODY ELSE OF COURSE BUT MOSTLY THE TURTLES. 
          AND NEXT TIME I APPEAR BEFORE YOU I'M SURE I'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU REMEMBER THANK YOU. 
          MEMBER TERRY HALL HALL. TERRY HALL 17 BAY PINES DRIVE SO I'M HERE TONIGHT WITH MY WIFE ELIZABETH AND WE JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE HERSELF KIND OF EXPLORE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE ENCOUNTERED IN OUR PROPERTY SINCE THE RECENT FLOODING DROP STORM DEBBIE SO WE SIMPLY JUST WANT TO MOVE BACK INTO OUR HOME WITH OUR TWO CHILDREN AND IT'S UNDERSTANDING THAT THE INTERPRETATION OF SOUTH CAROLINA DONORS GRANT PROCUREMENT POLICY IS WHAT'S IN OUR WAY. THIS IS CREATING SOME HESITATION THE TOWNS, THE POTENTIAL LIABILITIES OR RISK AND I HAD THIS ALL TYPED UP THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH INFORMATION COME IN IN THIS MEETING SO WE KNOW THE PHONES WERE DOWN AND BEEN LOOKING AT THIS THING. I THINK I WAS NOTIFIED ON APRIL 24TH OF 2023 THAT THE TOWN WAS REVIEWING THESE NEW POLICIES. IT'S BEEN 18 MONTHS. YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY MY HOME WAS FLOODED SO I'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO TURN THE THROTTLE TO GET MY FAMILY BACK WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE VERY THANKFUL FOR THE HOUSE MY CHURCH IS PROVIDING US SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE. THERE ARE GRANT FUNDS THAT ARE ALREADY SECURED BY SOUTH DNR AND AVAILABLE TO THE DOWNHILL AND MOVE FORWARD. I DID GET NEWS TODAY FROM MR. ORLANDO THAT WE HAVE MADE DIRECT CONTACT WITH SENATOR DAVIS AND HE IS SUPPOSEDLY WORKING THIS TODAY. NOW IN THAT RESPECT I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THINKING OF A PLAN BECAUSE WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT SENATOR DAVIS IS GOING TO GIVE US THE ANSWER WE'RE REQUESTING. SO ONE OF THE THINGS LIKE I SAID, I KEEP HEARING OF THE RISK TOWN IN TERMS WHAT EXACTLY ARE THESE RISK YOU KNOW THE HOME IS FINANCED THEREFORE PROPER INSURANCE IS IN PLACE THROUGH THE HOUSE. GROSS IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE A VERY THOROUGH BUILDING INSPECTORS ON TOWN STAFF. YOU KNOW, DURING GENERAL CONTRACTORS CARRY INSURANCE AS WELL AS THERE ARE HOMEOWNER INSURANCE AVAILABLE DURING PERIODS OF CONSTRUCTION. AND YOU KNOW HOW, DOES IT WORK WITH A PUBLIC PARK? 
          [02:20:01]
IS THE TOWN TRULY RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY PHYSICAL INJURY THAT MAY OCCUR ON THEIR PROPERTY? HOW DO WE HOW DOES THE TOWN CIRCUMVENT THOSE LIABILITIES BUT AND ALSO YOU KNOW DUE TO THE REPORT PROVIDED BY THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING MISSY LUECK HOPEFULLY I GOT THAT CORRECT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT IN HER HAND. LET'S REDUCE HER NUMBER BY ONE HOUSE. THIS IS ONE BED OF LOST PROPERTY THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO IN CONCLUSION WE SIMPLY ASK YOU CONSIDER AND OPENLY SUGGEST ALL POTENTIAL OPTIONS TO TO RESOLVE OR WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 
          THERE IS ALWAYS WAY AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE EXPERIENCE OF THE COUNCIL WORKING TOGETHER CAN FIND A SOLUTION. ELIZABETH AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME ON THIS MATTER LESS THAN WHAT IS YOUR ADDRESS 17 BAY PINES DRIVE THANK YOU MR.. 
          OH THANK YOU. TOM WRITES WRITES GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSEL MR. ORLANDO, YOUR HONOR. THE CONSTITUENTS I'M HERE ACTUALLY TO SUPPORT AND TERRI HALL, THEY'RE ONE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT I HAVE DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY FOR. 
          COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO A STORM BY THE NAME OF DEBBIE PASSED THROUGH FLOODED THE MOUTH AND IT GAVE ME AS COUNSEL OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO YOU AND SAY CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO HELP MITIGATE WHAT TERRI ELIZABETH HAD GONE THROUGH. I'M HERE TODAY TO REPORT THAT OUR EFFORTS TOGETHER BETWEEN COUNTY AND TOWN HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL TO HELP MITIGATE WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH. I LOOK AT SHAWN BACK THERE AND JEFF MENTIONED YOUR AND MARK. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S RARE THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN THERE HOW MANY GENERATIONS THAT YOU'VE BEEN THERE? MANY, YEAH THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES THAT COUNCIL HAS COME TO HELP THEM. THEY TAUGHT THEY DIDN'T GIVE ME A CHANCE TO GET ANYTHING TOGETHER, GET THIS GOING. BUT TO THIS POINT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU NOW A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE WITH CULVERTS PIPES REDOING THE WHOLE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THEM AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DAMAGED THERE FOR. 
          SO AGAIN, HATS OFF TO THIS COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF OUR POSITIONS I REALLY THINK WE'VE COME TOGETHER NOW IS IT IN THE TIMEFRAME THAT THE HALLS WOULD LIKE? HE'D LIKE TO KICK MY SOMETIMES BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU WE'RE GETTING THIS DONE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN PROBABLY 30 YEARS. I THINK WITH ALL YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THE TIMING OF MISSY IS REPORT IS INCREDIBLE. WHAT INCREDIBLE LAST NIGHT BY THE WAY AND WITH COUNTY COUNCIL DISTRICT 11 WHICH IS HALF OR MORE THE ISLAND WE HAD A MEETING AND WE WERE JUST INTRODUCED TO A NEW MANAGER AND HE FIGHT FOR ONE TO INTRODUCE TO MISSY AND WHAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST NIGHT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO WHAT MISSY INTRODUCED AND IT'S DUE COUNTY NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM AND IT HAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT ON EVERYTHING THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT ON THOSE SLIDES MISSY IS COVENANT HERE AS WELL AS HOW WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND WHAT DO WILL ACTUALLY REDUCE THE PREMIUMS THAT THE HALLS PAY FOR POLICIES GOING FORWARD. IT'S ALL TIED WITH FEMA A LOT OF WHICH I DON'T KNOW. 
          SO MISSY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEPEND ON YOU A LOT FOR SO I'LL GIVE YOU THIS WHEN I GO BUT SOME TO ME I THINK TOO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT BUT FLOOD PLAINS IS HUGE FOR WHAT THEY'RE GOING. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY LET'S WOW. 
          I THOUGHT I'D BE LESS THAN 3 MINUTES IF YOU THEN I'LL TELL YOU WHY BECAUSE I KNOW VERY WELL MANY OF US TO LEAVE HERE IN TIME TO WATCH OUR YANKEES WON THE SECOND GAME TONIGHT. 
          AM I RIGHT ALL RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. LISTEN, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. 
          [11. Executive Session]
THANK YOU VERY JIM. ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. LANDER. 
          DO WE HAVE A NEED TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, SIR. 
          AS SHOWN ON COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS 11 A.M. AND 11 P HAVE A MOTION. 
          YES, I'LL MOVE THAT COUNCIL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE REASON CITED BY THE TOWN MANAGER I SAID ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO S YEAH YEAH THERE IS EMOTION COME OUT OF THAT WE'VE GOT A FIRST AND SECOND TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND STEVE ASHLEY OKAY SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO RESTRAINTS. 
          [02:25:07]
IS THERE ANY ACTION COMING OUT OF THE ACCESS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? I THINK WE MOVE TO ADJOURN. GOT A MOTION TO ADJOURN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. WE'RE ADJOURNED
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