Oct 02, 2024 Town of Bluffton Historic Preservation Commission

[I. CALL TO ORDER]

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ALL TO ORDER FOR THE OCTOBER HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING THAT WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 2ND 6 P.M. CAN I GET A ROLL CALL? CHAIRMAN ED GOODWIN HERE VICE SHOWED UP HERE COMMISSIONER KALEKA FRAZIER COMMISSIONER JIM HESSE COMMISSIONER TIM PROBST COMMISSIONER KERRY SMELTER COMMISSIONER DEBBIE WONDER HERE ON NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT

[III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT]

[IV. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

[VII.1. Certificate of Appropriateness (35 C Thomas Heyward Street): A request by Brad Clark for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness-HD to allow the renovation of an existing onestory single-family structure to move the front door and patio stairs to the center of the house, to reconfigure windows on the front and left elevations, and to change the exterior siding, shutters and front door, in the OId Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-HD. (COFA-05-24-019119)(Staff - Charlotte Moore)]

IT DOESN'T LOOK AS THOUGH THE APPLICANT FOR HIS ASKING THEM HOW TO GET IT IT'S LIKE OKAY THEY'RE HERE WHICH A GOOD THING THEY GIVE ME 1/2 HERE OKAY IS FOR THOMAS HAYWARD.

ALL RIGHT GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. FOR THOSE OF YOU I'VE MET EVERYONE BUT FOR THE AUDIENCE KEVIN ACTOR KEVIN II DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT MOORE UNFORTUNATELY WAS NOT BE ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT SO I'M FILLING IN FOR HER SO.

PLEASE SHOW ME A LITTLE GRACE I JUST STARTED WORK ON THE PRESENTATION THIS MORNING SO I SHOULD BE OKAY BUT I MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE STAFF REPORT IN CASE THERE'S ANY ISSUES.

SO THE REQUEST THAT WE HAVE IS FOR THE RENOVATION OF AN EXISTING SINGLE STOREY STRUCTURE. THEY'RE REQUESTING TO MOVE THE FRONT PORCH EXCUSE ME FRONT DOOR FRONT STEPS FOR THEIR PATIO TO CENTER IT FROM I BELIEVE THIS THE RIGHT ELEVATION TO THE LEFT OR TO THE CENTER AND THEN CHANGING OUT SOME OF THE SIDING SHUTTERS ON THE FRONT DOOR. THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING DISTRICT LOCATED ON THOMAS HAYWARD. HERE IS A PHOTO THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE PHOTOS THAT WERE PROVIDED YOUR STAFF REPORT AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS RELATIVELY QUICKLY SO THAT WAY AT THE END IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS YOU CAN YOU CAN ASK ME HERE ON THE FIRST FLOOR YOU CAN SEE WE'VE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AND IN RED AREAS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SOME SOME NECESSARY CHANGES. ONE THE FRONT DOOR YOU CAN SEE I'M HIGHLIGHTING HERE THEY'VE DECIDED TO MOVE IT AND CENTER IT IN THE FRONT WITH THE STEPS AS WELL AS REMOVING SOME RAILINGS ACROSS THE FRONT THIS IS PROBABLY A BETTER ONE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT THE WINDOW CONFIGURATION HAS CHANGED. YOU CAN SEE THEY HAD ELONGATED WINDOWS. THEY'VE KIND OF SHORTENED UP A LITTLE BIT.

THERE ARE NEW SHUTTERS ON ALL WINDOWS THAT CAN ACCEPT SHUTTERS.

THEY'RE PROPOSING THE FRENCH DOOR IN THE MIDDLE, THE SIDING FROM VINYL TO HARDIE PLANK THE NEW FRONT AND THEN REMOVING THE PORCH RAILINGS AS WELL FROM THE LEFT ELEVATION YOU CAN SEE EXISTING THEY HAD A SET OF WINDOWS HERE THAT THEY HAVE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE REMOVED ON THEN ON THE RIGHT ELEVATION IT'S JUST MAINLY JUST THE THE SIDING AND THEN THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT THE VINYL SIDING WOULD STAY ON THAT CHIMNEY OR REAR IT'S JUST THE SHUTTERS AS WELL AS THE NEW THAT IS BEING PROPOSED ON THAT LOCATION. SO THERE ARE THE EIGHT REVIEW CRITERIA THAT ARE LISTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO APPROVE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS OR TO DENY THIS REQUEST IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD.

STAFF HAS THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS IN FRONT OF YOU WHICH DEALS WITH JUST REVISING THE APPLICATION TO INCLUDE THE SITE DATA PROVIDE CONFIRMATION TO SHOW THAT THE FRENCH DOORS WILL COMPLY WITH THE PERMITTED MATERIAL SAME THAT SHUTTERS COMPLY WITH THE APPROPRIATE MATERIAL THE WINDOWS SAME THING AND THEN INDICATE THAT WROUGHT IRON WILL USED FOR THE FRONT HANDRAIL AND THAT INDICATE ALL LOCATIONS WHERE THE HARDIE PLANK IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED TO BE REPLACED WITH THE VINYL SIDING. I THINK THERE'S JUST REFERENCE LIKE LIKE A ONE POINT BUT JUST TO CONFIRM OUR GOAL TO JUST CONFIRMING ALL LOCATIONS WHERE

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I WANT TO LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK ON THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND .

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. FOR THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME RIGHT? YEAH I WOULD PUT PARTY ALONG THE UM THE CHIMNEY. I APOLOGIZE THAT I SAID EVERYWHERE AND THEN I THOUGHT THE WE'RE OUT OF TOWN SO I FORGOT THOUGHT IT WAS A BRICK FIREPLACE.

UM SO NO IF IT IS ALREADY VINYL THEN I'LL I'LL WRAP WITH THE PARTY JUST BECAUSE OTHERWISE I WOULD LOOK AWFUL. YEAH. YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THE AFRICAN OAK WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OR LOOKING PERMISSION AND ANYBODY THERE'S NO DISCUSSION. I MAY HAVE TO APPROVE THE SUBMISSION WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ONE THROUGH SIX AS PROVIDED BY STAFF AND WITH THE CONDITION OF THE CHIMNEY SIDING ALSO BE CHANGED TO THE HARDY BLANC LAB THEIR SECOND ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR AND AGAINST OKAY THE MOTION IS PASSED RIGHT. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU YEAH.

[VII.2. Certificate of Appropriateness (128 Bridge Street): A request by Ansley H. Manuel, Architect, on behalf of owner Lynda Lee Googe Strong, for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness - HD to construct a new 2-story Carriage House at 128 Bridge Street, in the OId Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood Conservation-HD. (COFA-05-24-019123)(Staff – Charlotte Moore)]

THIS TO BE PLACED ON A PROPERTY THAT ALREADY HAS OBVIOUSLY AN EXISTING PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE THERE THERE ARE A LOT THE CONSTRUCTION IS SHOWS AS 1230 12 1232 SQUARE FEET IN THIS PRESENTATION WELL THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO STATE THAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED TO REDUCE THAT. AFTER TALKING WITH AINSLEY SHE'S BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO SHOW THAT THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 1166 SQUARE FEET.

SO AS I GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION THAT HIS COMMENTS ACTUALLY GOING BE A MOOT POINT.

SO JUST WANT TO KIND PUT THAT OUT THERE REAL QUICK. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE IT SAYS NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY THE CONSERVATION BLEEP LOCATED OFF BRIDGE STREET THAT IS THE GRAVEL PORTION OF BRIDGE STREET .

HERE'S SOME PHOTOS. THIS IS THE FRONT FACADE OF THE HOUSE AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE THE GOAL TO USE MATERIALS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

SO I TALKED WITH AINSLEY AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE IN HERE IS MAKING SURE THAT THE MATERIALS WILL WILL MATCH WHILE THEY MAY NOT NECESSARILY MEET THE CODE , THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PROPERTY ON THE SIDE HERE IS BRIDGE STREET THEY DO HAVE A AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY. THEY WOULD EXTEND THAT TOWARDS THE REAR FOR THIS PROPOSED HOUSE AGAIN TWO CAR GARAGE ON THE LOWER LEVEL AND AN APARTMENT STYLE UNIT ABOVE HERE YOU CAN SEE SOUTH WHERE THAT'S A STREET FACING THERE'S YOUR TWO CAR GARAGE OBVIOUSLY THE BRICK WOULD THEN THEY WOULD SOURCE TO MATCH THE EXISTING BRICK ON THE STRUCTURE THIS WOULD BE WHERE IT SAYS EAST THAT'S A VIEW YOU WERE TO LOOK THROUGH THE ADJACENT LOT FROM THOMAS HAYWARD AND THIS IS THE VIEW THAT YOU WOULD YOU WOULD SEE SO WHERE THE PORCH AND STEPS ARE LOCATED THAT IS TOWARDS THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE LISTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT YOU CAN USE THOSE FOR MAKING A DETERMINATION YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPROVE APPROVE OF CONDITIONS OR TO DENY THE REQUEST. AS WE STATED SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT STAFF FINDS ONE WAS TO REDUCE THE CARRIAGE HOUSE SQUARE FOOTAGE WHICH THAT'S A MOOT POINT.

WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE DOCUMENTATION REFLECTS THAT TO SHOW THE ACCURATE

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WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY PROVIDE LABELING THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS SAME THING WITH THE THE WINDOWS THEY ARE COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE THE SERVICE AREA MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT WOULD BE THE SIDE TECHNICALLY CLOSEST WHERE THOMAS HAYWARD IS. THAT'S WHERE THE ELECTRICITY WOULD BE COMING IN AND I'M NOT SURE WE CAN QUICKLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ANY SERVICE YARD THERE THAT DOES PROVIDE APPROPRIATE SCREENING. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM WHERE THE DETERMINATION WHILE IT SAYS USE BRICKS THAT ARE LOCALLY PRODUCED, I THINK THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO BRICKS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT STRUCTURE THERE NOW SO AND THEN I BELIEVE SAME THING WITH THE SOFFIT IS THAT THE CURRENT STRUCTURE HAS A SMOOTH SOFFIT AND THAT THERE WOULD JUST BE FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES IT WOULD MEET THAT SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALSO THE APPLICANT HERE AND CAN CAN CLARIFY ANYTHING SO THE QUESTIONS ON THE FLOOR AREA THAT MOSTLY BECAUSE PORCH DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS CORRECT YES AND IS THE WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT WE MEASURE FROM THE INTERIOR PORTION OF IT AND WHAT WAS MEASURED WAS MEASURED FROM THE EXTERIOR.

SO ONCE WE ACTUALLY APPLIED THE INTERIOR MEASUREMENT WHICH IS TYPICALLY WE DO THAT'S WHAT IT BROUGHT IT DOWN TO THAT 1166 SO WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT SO I HAVE QUESTIONED THE BRICKS I THINK FOR THE CARE HOUSE IT IS A BRICK SIDING CURRENTLY ON THE MAIN STRUCTURE ON THE MAIN HOUSE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP YOU GO CAN YOU GO FURTHER SO YEAH YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S IT'S MOSTLY A BRICK HOME UNTIL YOU GET TO THE GABLE WINDS AND THEN IT'S WHICH IS OVER TO SIDING OR YOU KNOW QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT IF YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED OR WELL WE CAN LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN BECAUSE I DIDN'T I WAS SHORT AND I NEED TO AND JUST DISCUSS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT SO THAT WE CAN ALL BE IN THE GREAT. SO WE WERE THINKING IF YOU GO TO THE ELECTRICAL PLAN SO WE'RE THINKING THE REAR OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE IS ACTUALLY FACING SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

YES, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR IS AND THAT'S CURRENTLY WHERE WE'RE BEING PROPOSING TO PUT THE RIGHT HERE. SO THIS BECAUSE IT'S WHERE THE POWER CAN COME IN SO I DIDN'T NEED TO DRAW COMPRESSOR THERE IS A SERVICE SHOULD HAVE TO ON JUST THE THE UTILITIES WITH THAT INCLUDED ACTUALLY YEAH YEAH THAT USUALLY MEANS ABOUT A FOOT SPACE SO THAT BEING SAID I MAY HAVE TO GO TO THE SITE, IT MAY HAVE TO SHIFT THE BUILDING A SMIDGEN TOWARD THE INTERIOR OF THE LOT, HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE A COMPRESSOR THE ROOM NEEDED AROUND IT FOR A SERVICE YARD THAT'S AND THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO ON A STAFF LEVEL EASILY TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW IF YOU IF WE'RE SHIFTING THIS I'M GOING TO SAY SOUTH 3 TO 4 FEET THAT MIGHT GIVE YOU THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF SPACE THEN YOU CAN GET THE YARD IN THERE AS WELL AND STILL GIVE THE ACCESSIBILITY THAT'S NEEDED FOR IT.

SO THE SERVICE WOULD BE BEHIND THE CARRIAGE NOT ON THE SIDE. SO THE ORIENTATION I'M SORRY I'M GOING ADJUST THE ORIENTATION THE FRONT ORIENTATION IS THAT WHERE I HAVE THE CURSOR RIGHT NOW EVEN THOUGH IT'S A IT'S A SIDE FACING ORIENTATION SO THIS IS IN THERE IN THEIR MINDS THIS IS THE REAR WHICH IS THE SIDE YEAH.

OH OKAY YEAH. SO WE'LL JUST LITERALLY JUST PULL THE BUILDING DOWN THIS WAY SOME MORE AND THAT GIVES MORE SPACE. YEAH AND IS A LOT BETWEEN THEIR

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OKAY. JUST WANT TO CLEAR OUT THE MOTION AND IS THERE ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. YEAH.

OR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. YEAH. I MEAN I DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THE BREAK I THOUGHT IT DID A NICE JOB OF BREAKING DOWN THE SCALE OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE. YEAH. MAKING IT NOT FEEL LIKE SUCH A LARGE STRUCTURE AND IT'S ON THE HOME SO THAT SEEMED TO MAKE SENSE AND SO IF IT'S ON THE HOUSE ARE ALSO THE THE FLAT PANEL SO ABOUT THAT SEEMED CONSISTENT I DON'T MIND IT MATCH I WOULD RATHER IT MATCH ANYBODY ELSE HAVING OTHER STRONG THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT NO.

OKAY THEN I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION. YEAH AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE IF I COULD SO OBVIOUSLY NUMBER ONE OR YOU DON'T NEED TO REFERENCE NUMBER AND THEN JUST I GUESS WITH EARTH NUMBER THREE NUMBER TWO THEY'RE SAYING THAT IS THE ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLES.

SO YOU MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ORDERED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IT'S CLEARLY LABELED ON THE PLANS AND THE STAFF WILL WORK WITH YOU WITH THE APPLICANT FOR THE ACTUAL FINAL DESIGN OF THE GARAGE DOORS AND THEN THAT THE BRICK ANY BRICK AND ANY BRICK USED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THAT THE ALLOWANCE OF THE SMOOTH FACED SOFFIT SINCE IT IS EXISTING ON THE ON THE HOUSE SOMEONE SOMEONE COULD MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUBMISSION WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS 236 I DON'T HAVE A SECOND SECOND RESOLUTION ALL IN FAVOR I ANYONE OPPOSED AND LAST ONE THING THANKS GUYS THANK YOU ALL

[VII.3. Certificate of Appropriateness (5783 Yaupon Road): A request by Southern Coastal Homes, on behalf of Owners Nathalie and Andrew Hintz, for approval of the construction of a new one-story Single Family Residential Structure of approximately 1,818 SF and Carriage House of approximately 1,165 SF at 5783 Yaupon Road, Lot 38 in the Stock Farm Development, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-HD. (COFA-05-24- 019129) (Staff-Charlotte Moore)]

THIS IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL DISTRICT. YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE MAP IT'S THE CORNER OF YAUPON AND MISTLETOE LOOP. HERE'S THE LOT RELATIVELY WOODED LOT HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ORIENTATION IS AFTER YOU OPEN WITH THE CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT WOULD COME OF THE REAR ALLEY WHICH IS RAMBLE I'M GOING TO KIND OF RUN THROUGH HERE

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AS I SAID, THE ONLY CONDITION THAT WE HAD WAS JUST DEALING WITH THAT CANOPY COVERAGE AFRICANS HERE THEY CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND I THINK THAT THEY HAVE A QUESTION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ASK TO YOU AS WELL. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ME ON THE TREE ON THE CANOPY COVERAGE IS THERE A LIST OF KIND OF GENERAL OR GENERAL GUIDELINE FOR HOW BIG THE PLAN FOR THE SIZE OF THE CANOPY PRE THERE IS BASED OFF OF IT'S ALL IT'S ALL BASED OFF OF FOR MATURITY AND I DON'T HAVE THE BOOK IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW BUT IT GIVES LIKE A A SPREAD SO LIKE OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT TREES DIFFERENT SPREADS.

THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN YOU PLANT A LIVE OAK THAT USUALLY LIKE CAPTURE A GOOD CHUNK BECAUSE AT FULL MATURITY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HUGE CANOPY.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE LIKE LOOKING AT THE GUIDANCE FROM LIKE AN APA OR AN AFFILIATE. YES. YES, WE ACTUALLY USE LIKE WHATEVER LANDSCAPING BOOK THAT SHOWS YOU THAT SPREAD AND THEN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS WILL THEN GO IN AND JUST PUT THAT RADIUS ON THERE AND THEN USE THAT AND FIGURE BASED OFF OF YOUR LOT THE SIZE OF YOUR LOT AND HOW MUCH COVERAGE YOU'RE USING AND STUFF AND THEN FROM CLOSE TO MEETING THE CANOPY REQUIREMENT WHAT DO YOU MEAN HOW CLOSE? I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING THEM TO GIVE US JUST LOOKING. THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF TREES ON HERE SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THEY ARE IN WITH THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T PROVIDE THAT THAT PERCENTAGE IF IF BASED OFF OF THE PLANS HERE IF THEY CAME BACK AND THEY WERE AT 65% THEN WE WOULD MAKE THEM EITHER MOVE A TREE AROUND BECAUSE THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT OVERLAPPING OR PLANT AN ADDITIONAL TREE OKAY FOR THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT ON MORE NAMES PATRICK COSTANTINO AND IF YOU LOOK AT GUESS THE FRONT ELEVATION WOULD PROBABLY BE WELL RIGHT THERE IN THE DINING ROOM THEY ASKED FOR TO HAVE THE YOU KNOW THESE BAHAMA SHUTTERS THAT ARE RIGHT ON HERE AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE OF YOU KNOW HAVING THE COVERED PORCH THERE THEY WANT TO ALLOW MORE LIGHT AND THEY, YOU KNOW, WORRIED THAT THE BAHAMA SHUTTERS WOULD OBVIOUSLY ,YOU KNOW, IMPEDE ON THAT.

SO THEY'RE ASKED TO REMOVE BAHAMA SHUTTERS JUST THOSE TWO BAHAMA SHUTTERS WINDOW.

OKAY. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. YES WE SEE I SEE THE PICTURE OF IT ARE THE PEOPLE JUST ON THAT TRIPLE HUNG WINDOW RIGHT THERE.

OKAY. THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THE ONLY WINDOW TO NOT HAVE A BAHAMA SHUTTER AND THERE ARE OTHER WINDOWS UNDER THE PORCH THAT HAVE HAMMER SHUTTERS AND THERE'S OTHER EXAMPLES OF BAHAMA SHUTTERS UNDERNEATH THE PORCHES IN BLUFFTON I THINK A HOUSE UNDER ART SPECIFICALLY IT'S ALSO THE ONLY TRIPLE HUNG WINDOW SO IT IS 70 WITH NO CHANGE SO THIS MUST BE THAT MUCH IS JUST THE OLDER ONE. YEAH OKAY MY PRESENTATION I THINK I HAVE THE OLDER OLDER WHICH HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO GOOD IT'S TOO DOUBLE.

YEAH YEAH BECAUSE I REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT THE LAST ONE ABOUT IT BEING THE ONLY BUT OKAY SO IT'S NOW TWO DOUBLE HUNG WINDOWS SAID WITH THE HAMMER SHUTTERS SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE NOW AND TO HAVE THE HAMMER SHUTTERS REMOVED I MEAN MY IS WITH ALL THE PORCH ONES THEY STICK OUT SO MUCH IT'S A 45 DEGREE ANGLE YEAH IT'S PRETTY IT'S A I MEAN IS IT

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YEAH AND THE OTHER THING THAT THEY NOTED IN THEIR EMAIL IS THAT THE ONLY OTHER ONES THAT ARE ON THE PORCH WOULD BE FROM THE FOUR SEASONS ROOM. NOW IT'S A DIFFERENT ELEVATION . IT WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT IF YOU GUYS WANTED THEM TO REMOVE THAT THE PORCH AND WINDOWS HAVE THEM I MEAN I THINK THE YOU THAT STICKING OUT SO FAR I MEAN I THINK THAT'S AN EASILY ADJUSTABLE ELEMENT AND THEY'RE TYPICALLY NOT HUNG THAT FAR PROJECTING YOU CAN ALSO GET BAHAMA SHUTTERS WITH VARYING AMOUNTS OF PRIVACY SO IF YOU WANT A MORE LIGHT YOU COULD GET THE LOUVERS AND IN A DIFFERENT ORIENTATION WHERE THEY'RE MORE OPEN THEY'RE CALLED OUT ON THE ON THE SHUTTER DETAIL AS FIXED OR ADJUSTABLE SUPPORT ARM SO IT MIGHT BE THAT WE JUST MIGHT BE THAT WE COULD SUGGEST IN THE MOTION TO MAKE THEM ADJUSTABLE AND NOT FIXED. YEAH I MEAN YEAH I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD BASED ON THE PLANS EXPECTED TO GO OUT THERE AND HAVE THEM PROJECTING IT ALREADY RIGHT BUT I MEAN I THINK IT'S KIND OF SOMETHING WHEN YOU'RE DOING IT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND YOU'RE DOING SHUTTERS, YOU NEED TO BE CONSISTENT AND JUST REMOVING THEM OFF OF THE CIVIC WINDOWS KIND OF ODD WHEN YOU HAVE OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE DISCUSSION ON CHANGING THOSE WINDOWS TO BE FRENCH DOORS LIKE FIX IT THAT SO THE EMAIL SPECIFICALLY SAYS SHOULDN'T THE COMMITTEE BE UNWILLING TO MAKE A CONCESSION ON REQUIRING SHUTTERS ON THE ROOM WINDOWS UNDER THE PORCH? WE PREFER TO GO BACK TO THE FRENCH DOORS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION. THE POINT IS MADE BY THE COMMITTEE VIRTUALLY SO WE HAD OUR FIRST CHOICE OF WHAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN LOSING NATURAL LIGHT IN THE DINING ROOM.

I THINK THAT'D BE A NICE ALTERNATIVE RATHER HAVING ONE. YEAH I THINK THAT'S THE OBVIOUS SOLUTION. YEAH. OF THE FRENCH WITH ELEVATION OF THE HOMES. OKAY, YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. I MEAN IT WOULD BE THE SAME AS THE ONES ON OR I THINK WE WOULD AT LEAST KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD BE THE SAME.

YEAH DON'T I. I THINK THAT'S MUCH CONSISTENT IN KEEPING WITH THE OKAY YEAH OKAY THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CONSENSUS I THINK SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS HAVE GET IT LOOKS GOOD WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS MAKING BASED OFF OF OUR LAST CONVERSATIONS OKAY WELL IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION WE'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION. WE'LL JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO KEEP THE SHUTTER DISCUSSION OR SHUTTER DECISION IN THAT MOTION RIGHT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH STAFF STAFF COMMENTS ONE AND TWO AND WITH THE THAT THE DINING ROOM WINDOWS ON THE RIGHT ELEVATION BE CHANGED TO FRENCH DOORS TO MATCH THE FRENCH DOORS THE FRONT ELEVATION OKAY SECOND DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR HI ANY OPPOSED AND THE MOTION IS PASSED THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT I APPRECIATE IT

[VIII.1. Historic District Monthly Update. (Staff)]

WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT'S HAPPENING OKAY? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN ON ANY SECOND THERE I AM

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.