Sep 16, 2024 Public Facilities and Safety Committee

YOU GO?

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AWESOME.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SAFETY COMMITTEE, UM, TODAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, 3:00 PM DO WE HAVE AN ECHO IS BETTER? BEAR WITH ME GUYS.

UM, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER IN THE MEANTIME WHILE THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT.

SO PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION OF UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ALL RIGHTY, PUBLIC NOTIFICATION.

THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM INFORMATION ACT.

WE'RE GOOD TO GO ON THAT AS WELL.

AS YOU SEE, WE ARE MISSING TWO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TODAY, BUT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

UM, I THINK MR. BAROLO, YOU WILL BE HERE SHORTLY.

UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

SECOND BY MS. BROWN.

ANY OBJECTION? NO, I SEE NO OBJECTION.

AND THIS WILL ALSO BE APPROVED.

UM, NUMBER FIVE,

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - August 19, 2024]

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

THANK YOU TAB.

I GUARANTEE THAT SHE READ THEM.

I READ JOE MADE THE SECOND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, .

AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO

[6. CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD- 15 MINUTES TOTAL]

WE DO HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS HERE.

UM, I SAW, OR A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP.

WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LET ALL SIX GO.

I KNOW THAT NONE OF THE SIX HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH, IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO SPEAK FOR THE MEETING LATER ON.

THAT'S FINE.

WE'LL ALLOW IT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION ON THAT SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.

UM, WE'LL JUST GO STRAIGHT DOWN THE LIST.

UM, MS. BLUNT.

YEAH, YOU'RE GOOD.

AND AS ALWAYS, THERE'LL BE THREE MINUTES ON THERE AS WELL.

THE FIRST DING IS A 32ND MARKER, SO JUST KEEP GOING UNTIL YOU HEAR THE SECOND ONE.

OKAY.

GREETINGS COUNSEL.

UH, ALLOW ME TO REINTRODUCE MYSELF.

MY NAME IS JENIA BLUNT.

I AM THE FOUNDER AND CEO OF MIDC CITIES YOUTH SPORTS ASSOCIATION AND THE HENRY CLAY FOUNDATION.

UM, I JUST CAME HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY JUST TO REITERATE MY COMMENTS FROM THE LAST MEETING, UM, AND MY SUPPORT.

MS. LEE, EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND.

WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HEAR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY.

CAN SOMEBODY HELP HER WITH THIS MIC BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER? ALRIGHT.

JUST GIVE IT A SECOND.

'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA MISS ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY.

UNLESS YOU WANNA REALLY YELL, YOU CAN YELL THE OTHER DAY.

SHE, SHE SAID NOT TODAY.

NOT TODAY.

SHE'S TOO SOFT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I JUST, I'M HAVING TROUBLE HEARING AS WELL.

OKAY.

WE HAVE AN HOUR, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYTHING IN.

YEAH, WE'RE LET THEM WORK ON THAT REAL QUICK.

WE GIVE 'EM A MOMENT.

YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND AM I ECHOING NOW? I DON'T HEAR IT.

YEAH, I DON'T HEAR IT.

YEAH.

DO WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND TRY IT AGAIN? OKAY.

OKAY.

WE WENT AHEAD AND RESTARTED THAT TIME.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME BETTER NOW? YEAH, MUCH BETTER.

ALL THANK YOU.

SO, MY NAME IS JENIA BLUNT.

I'M THE FOUNDER AND CEO OF MID CITIES YOUTH SPORTS ASSOCIATION AND THE HENRY CLAY FOUNDATION.

AND I JUST KIND OF WANNA COME HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A HEADS UP OF WHAT I'M DOING IN THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW I SPOKE BEFORE ABOUT MY POSITION ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT WAS BEFORE COUNCIL, BUT I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT I AM, FIRST OF ALL, A 100% DISABLED NAVY VETERAN.

AND I PROVIDE FREE, UM, VA DISABILITY CLAIM ASSISTANCE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO VETERANS IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, ASSISTING THEM WITH THEIR VA CLAIMS. I ALSO PROVIDE MENTORSHIP TO, UH, ROUGHLY 50 PLUS KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY.

I HAVE A MULTI-SPORT, A A U ORGANIZATION, AS WELL AS I DO AFTERSCHOOL TUTORING AND, UH, A PLETHORA OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT I'M MAKING AVAILABLE, UM, WITH THE SUPPORT OF INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I WANT TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE HERE THAT I AM RUNNING INTO SOME ISSUES SUPPORTING SOME OF THE STUDENTS IN THE PROGRAM WHO ARE MEMBERS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHO ARE STUDENTS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND THAT IS, UM, THESE, SOME OF THESE ISSUES ARE INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO,

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I MEAN, HAVING ISSUES WITH HOUSING ONCE THEY DO GET TO COLLEGE.

UM, BOOKS FOR SCHOOL, UM, SCHOLARSHIP AND TUTORING EFFORTS FOR ONCE THEY GET TO SCHOOL.

UM, TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM, UH, EFFORTS THAT WE ARE GIVING THE KIDS LIKE, UM, TUTORING AND MENTORSHIP AND IN A PLETHORA OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE EXAMPLES OF WHY I FEEL AS THOUGH ISSUES THAT WE BRING FORWARD TO YOU GUYS IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT, UM, RESOURCES, ACCESS TO RESOURCES, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I'M SEEING THAT THESE KIDS NEED ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE SINCE I AM A NEWCOMER IN THE COMMUNITY, BY MY OWN ADMISSION, I HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT GIVE AND ADD AND TRY TO AT LEAST ADD VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO MAKE THAT, MAKE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE OF SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE SEEING WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE THESE KIDS THESE OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, IN THE COMMUNITY, THE, AT THE RECREATION PROGRAMS, LIKE PALS, THEY AGE OUT AT THE AGE OF 12.

SO THE KIDS IN MY PROGRAMS, THEY ARE ABOVE 12.

THEY'RE 12 AND OLDER, SO ROUGHLY SIXTH GRADE TO 12TH GRADE.

AND WE TRAVEL WITH THESE KIDS.

WE DO, UM, FUNDRAISING EFFORTS.

I'M ALSO A CERTIFYING OFFICIAL FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL VOLUNTEER SERVICE AWARD.

SO WHILE MY PROGRAM IS FREE AND THEY DON'T PAY MONEY TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE PROGRAMS, THEY DO HAVE TO GIVE ME WHAT I CALL TIME CURRENCY AND I SIGN OFF ON THEIR COMMUNITY SERVICE.

SO THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE EFFORTS THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE, UM, MORE POP POPULAR IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, UH, MR. BROWN? YES.

I'M ROY BROWN, AND I CAN TALK ABOUT THE, THE WORK THAT WE DO AT PO AT, UH, AT, UH, SEA ISLAND, A OH, SEA ISLAND PARKWAY.

THE WORK WE DO AT SEA ISLAND PARKWAY IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE YOUNG CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE DO, UH, AND THE OLDER DOUBTS, BECAUSE JUST LIKE JEN DEER SAID, WE WORK, I'M A VETERAN, AND WE GOT, WE CATCH THE DEVIL HERE IN BEAUFORT TRYING TO GET VETERAN CLAIMS DONE AND STUFF DONE FOR VETERANS, HOMELESS FOR YOUNG LADIES.

I TRIED TO WORK ON A PROGRAM FOR HOMELESS FOR YOUNG LADIES A LONG TIME AGO, BUT BEAUTIFUL COUNTY SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO SPEND ON THAT.

SO, BUT WE, BUT WE WORK ON, UH, CLAIMS FOR VETERANS.

WE DO TAXES FOR HELPING PEOPLE WITH THEIR TAXES AND HOW SHOW THEM HOW TO, HOW TO PAY THEIR TAXES, HOW THEY CAN SAVE MONEY TO PAY THEIR TAXES IN THE NEXT YEAR.

ALL THIS IS DONE AT 8 0 8 C ALLEN PARKWAY.

ALSO, WE, UH, WORK WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE AGAIN IN DIFFERENT, IN MENTORING AND, UH, TRYING TO LEARN HOW TO MAKE NETS, TRYING TO LEARN HOW TO DO THINGS THAT THEIR FAMILIES DID.

WE DO TRY TO DO A LITTLE HISTORY ON EACH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE STARTED A, UH, A, A LITTLE COUNTRY STORE OUT IN THE, ON, ON, UH, UH, THE BACK ROAD OF, UH, ST.

HELENA, THE MILLER'S OLD MILLER GROCERY STORE OUT THERE.

UH, IT'S LIKE A DESERT, LIKE THE YOUNG LADY SAID BEFORE.

IT IS LIKE A DESERT FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO BUY FOOD.

NO GROCERY STORES.

NO GAS STATION, NOT EVEN A LAUNDRY MAT.

NOTHING LIKE THAT IS OUT THERE IN THAT AREA.

SO, 8 0 8, WE TRY TO FOCUS ON HELPING THE YOUNG, YOUNG LADIES THAT OWN THE STORE.

MS. MACK FOCUS ON TRYING TO GET THOSE TYPE THINGS DONE.

SHE'S PLANNING ON TRYING TO OPEN ANOTHER STORE, WHICH WILL BE A LAUNDROMAT, WHICH WOULD TRY TO, UH, HELP THE PEOPLE THAT SENT HELENA COME A LITTLE CLOSE TO THE CIVILIZATION.

I KNOW WE SAID THAT, UH, THAT, UH, PEOPLE ON ST.

HELENA TO ME HAS BEEN LEFT BEHIND.

AND 8 0 8 IS A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN COME TO WHERE THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE TALKING TO FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT YOUNG LADIES ABOUT DIFFERENT SUBJECTS THAT THEY CAN WORK ON.

8 0 8 IS A PLACE FOR THEM TO LET THEIR HEAD DOWN AND FEEL AT HOME WHEN THEY CAN COME INTO SOME OF THESE OFFICES AND TALK THE WAY THEY WANT TO TALK OR TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

THEY CAN ALWAYS COME TO 8 0 8 AND FIND SOMEBODY THERE THAT WOULD, WOULD TALK TO THEM.

WE EVEN DO, UH, SOME, UM, APPOINTMENTS, APPOINTMENTS ON STUFF THAT THE COUNTY DOES, AND WE GET PEOPLE FROM THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, TO COME OUT AND

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SO 8 0 8 SPONSORS A BUNCH OF STUFF IN BEAUFORD COUNTY AND HELP WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. BROWN.

UH, MR. REEVES.

THAT'S ME.

OH, NO, I'M KIDDING.

.

I'M JUST KIDDING.

HI, HOW ARE YOU? VERY GOOD.

UM, THANK YOU COUNTY COUNSEL FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TODAY.

UH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS CRAIG REEVES AND I WROTE YOU GUYS ALL A LETTER AND IT WAS EMAILED ON SATURDAY.

I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE, UH, RECEIVED THAT.

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T, I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE, THE LETTER THAT I SENT TO YOU.

UM, BASICALLY I, I FEEL LIKE THAT MAYBE THE CONSIDERATION OF VILLAGE CREEK AND WHAT HAPPENS ON VILLAGE CREEK, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOW PINE ISLAND COULD BE DEVELOPED, UH, THE CPO, IN MY OPINION, AND TALKING WITH OTHER FISHERMEN WHO NAVIGATE THAT RIVER, YOU KNOW, ON A DAILY BASIS TO MAKE A LIVING.

UM, WE'RE SCARED TO DEATH OF WHAT THE CPO WOULD ALLOW, WHICH IS 150 OR 60 HOUSES, AND POTENTIALLY A HUNDRED DOCKS ON OUR CREEK, UM, WHICH WOULD BE VERY DETRIMENTAL.

UM, AND I'VE BEEN AT A LOT OF THESE MEETINGS AND I HEAR PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE WANNA SAVE THE OCEAN AND SAVE THE CREEK.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY, UH, SETTING 80% OF THAT PROPERTY ASIDE GREEN SPACE AND A REDUCTION OF DOCKS BY 90%, AND THE REDUCTION OF HOUSES BY 60% MAKES SENSE TO ME.

SO I I, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK A LOT AT THOSE MEETINGS.

IT'S KIND OF HECTIC ON THOSE MONDAY NIGHTS WHEN EVERYBODY'S HERE, UM, HECKLING EACH OTHER.

UM, BUT I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND, AND I REALLY WISH YOU GUYS WOULD CONSIDER THE COMMERCIAL FISHING SIDE OF THIS, UH, DEBATE.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID IN, I IN MY LETTER, MY FAMILY MOVED HERE IN 1992, SO 32 YEARS AGO, WE'VE BEEN, AND MY DAD, UH, WAS SHRIMPING SINCE THE SIXTIES.

SO WE'VE BEEN INTO SEAFOOD BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND THERE'S THREE GENERATIONS IN, IN OUR FAMILY WORKING RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY ON VILLAGE CREEK, BUT THERE WAS A HUNDRED BOAT SHRIMPING IN BEAUFORT COUNTY WHEN WE MOVED HERE IN 1992.

AND THERE'S LESS THAN 20 NOW.

THERE'S FOUR, UM, SOUTH OF THE BROAD.

AND, UM, EVERYTHING IS ON VILLAGE CREEK EXCEPT FOR WHAT'S AT GAY FISH.

EVERY OTHER DOCK, UH, IN BEAUFORT COUNTY IS GONE.

ALL OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS GONE FOR THE COMMERCIAL, UH, SEAFOOD INDUSTRY.

AND, AND THERE'S FIVE BUSINESSES ON VILLAGE CREEK AND PROBABLY NINE OR 10 OF THE 20 SHRIMP BOATS WORK OUT OF VILLAGE CREEK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, SORRY, I'M STRUGGLING WITH SOME OF THE HANDWRITING HERE.

IS IT MILLER, THE LAST NAME? YEP.

HOW ARE YOU TODAY? GOOD.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSEL.

MY NAME IS INEZ MILLER.

I'M A RESIDENT OF ST.

HELENA ISLAND.

I ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO PROTECT ST.

HELENA, PROTECT THE CPO.

LAST WEEK FRIDAY, A LAND RETENTION PROGRAM WAS HELD AT PENN CENTER FOR MANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HEARD TODAY THAT IS JUST STARTING TO COME ABOUT.

WHEN WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS AT PENN CENTER FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

IF PEOPLE NEED A PLACE TO COME TO, THEY CAN ALWAYS COME THERE AT PENN CENTER.

AND THERE'S OTHER RESOURCES IN THE COMMUNITY.

I AM A FAMILY MEMBER OF SEASIDE MINI MARKET.

A LADY CAME BEFORE YOU AND SAID HER NAME WAS SANDRA MACK.

SHE IS FROM LOUISIANA.

UH, THAT AREA AND FRIPP, WE CALL IT, IS NOT A DESERT.

THE FAMILY MEMBERS, THE MILLERS, THE MAX, THEY GET TOGETHER AND OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS WHEN PEOPLE NEEDED SEPTIC TANKS IN THAT COMMUNITY AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT, THAT COMMUNITY ALWAYS CAME TOGETHER SINCE I WAS, AND I'M IN MY SIXTIES NOW WHEN I WAS IN MY FORTIES AND RALLY TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO GIVE EACH AND EVERY ONE WHAT THEY NEED IN THAT COMMUNITY.

SO THAT IS NOT SO PLEASE CONTINUE TO UPHOLD THE CPO.

WE WANNA CONTINUE TO BE LIKE THE MOVE FAMOUS MOVIE THAT WAS HERE, FORREST GUMP, WHERE BUBBA GUMP NAMED THE BUNCH OF THE DIFFERENT SHRIMPS YOU CAN HAVE.

WE WANNA CONTINUE TO HAVE OYSTER STEW.

WE DON'T WANNA, LIKE COUNCILMAN GLOVER SAID HE HAD, UH, WHAT WAS IT, SOME TYPE OF SHRIMP AND GRITS IN ANOTHER AREA.

WE WANNA BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE THINGS SAY, PROTECT OUR OCEANS.

IF YOU TAKE YOUR PHONE AND MANY OF US HAVE ONE AND GOOGLE GOLF COURSES AND

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AND THIS IS HOW PEOPLE MAKE THEIR LIVING.

THAT'S RETIRED AND IT'S RECREATIONAL.

WE WANNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER UPHOLD THE CPO.

THE CPO IS THE LAW.

HOW IS IT THAT IT'S CHANGED WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS MONEY? THAT'S WRONG.

COME ON NOW.

WE ELECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

UH, ONE FISHERMAN SPOKE.

I DON'T SEE A PETITION WRITTEN WHEN YOU HAVE OVER 20,000 SIGNATURES OF OTHER BORDERS AND FISHERMEN.

AND I'M SURE BEFORE THE DAY ENDS, SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE FISHERMEN'S ASSOCIATION WILL BE HERE BEFORE YOU.

BUT IT HARMS THE WATERS.

AND WE ALREADY D FROM ALL TYPES OF THINGS THAT'S COMING OUT OF THE ENVIRONMENT AS IT IS.

SO PLEASE LISTEN TO US.

REMEMBER THE THREE PS.

PROTECT, PROTECT, PROTECT.

THANK YOU.

FIRST NAME.

THE NEXT ONE, SUSAN.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

HI, HOW ARE YOU TODAY? GOOD EVENING.

I'M GREAT.

I'M HERE FOR THIS.

I AM A LIFELONG MEMBER OR FAMILY MEMBER OF ST.

HELENA.

I LIVED HERE FOR YEARS.

MY, MY FATHER MADE A LIVING IN THAT OCEAN OUT THERE.

AND LIKE SHE SAID, IF YOU PUT A GOLF COURSE ON THERE, YOU'RE GONNA FEED THE GRASS WITH POISON.

SO THE POISON IS GONNA WHAT? LEAK OFF INTO THE OCEAN, YOU KNOW? AND SOME OF US, UM, WHEN WE NEED DIFFERENT THINGS, WE GO TO PENN CENTER.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF STUFF OVER THERE THAT WE USE.

SO WHY PUT A GOLF COURSE, A GOLF COURSE OVER HERE, THAT MEANS INCREASE IN OUR TAXES.

MR. GLOVER, HE HAS A POSITION YES.

WITH THE COUNCIL.

I HAVE CALLED, CALLED, CALLED CALL JUST FOR THEM TO CLEAR OUT A DITCH DRAINAGE ON MY PROPERTY.

DID HE RESPOND TO IT? NO, HE HAS NEVER RESPONDED TO IT.

SO HE'S NOT A REPRESENTATIVE OF US ON ST.

HELENA? NOT AT ALL.

NOT AT ALL.

BUT FOR THIS, WE DON'T NEED THIS.

WE DON'T NEED THAT GOLF COURSE ON ST.

HANA.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, MS. WHITE.

HI.

HOW ARE YOU TODAY? I'M GREAT.

HOW ARE YOU? DOING WELL, THANK YOU.

UM, MY NAME IS THERESA WHITE.

I AM THE FOUNDER AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE PANAFRIC FAMILY AND PALMING AND LAND PRESERVATION NETWORK.

AND I KNOW LATER TODAY YOU WILL BE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE, UM, SESSION TO DISCUSS PINE ISLAND GOLF COURSE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU NOT VOTE ON, TAKE A VOTE ON THAT TODAY THAT YOU DELAYED, AND ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING PRESENTED TO YOU.

RATHER THAN JUST GIVING US A FIVE MINUTE SUMMARY.

LET THE COMMUNITY SEE WHAT'S BEING OFFERED BEFORE YOU TAKE A VOTE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT WE'LL CLOSE OUR CITIZEN'S COMMENT PERIOD AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR

[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT]

MR. ROBINSON, HOW ARE YOU TODAY? I'M WELL, HOW ARE YOU TODAY? ALWAYS A GOOD DAY.

ALRIGHT, WELL, PUBLIC SAFETY IS MARCHING RIGHT ALONG.

THERE'S PLENTY OF THINGS TO DO.

I INVITED, UH, THIS AFTERNOON TO LULU MCGEE IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS GOING ON IN ANIMAL CONTROL.

SHE'S GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT, UH, SOME COYOTES, WHICH ARE A GROWING NUISANCE AROUND BEAUFORT COUNTY.

SO SHE'S GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT FOR A FEW MINUTES AND SOME WORK SHE'S DOING ALONG WITH, UH, WITH DNR AND SOME OTHER THINGS GOING ON IN, UH, ANIMAL SERVICES THAT, UH, YOU MAY FIND OF VALUE.

THANK YOU.

HEY, HOW ARE YOU? HELLO.

HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? GOOD.

SO I GAVE YOU THIS AND I DON'T HAVE A SLIDESHOW, I APOLOGIZE.

BUT THIS IS JUST A SITUATION THAT, UM, I'VE BEEN WATCHING COYOTES FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS NOW.

THEY DID COME ON MY PROPERTY AND KILL SOME OF MY ANIMALS RECENTLY.

SO THEY CAME TO THE WRONG PROPERTY, LET'S JUST SAY .

AND SO, AND I WORKED WITH HANNAH AND WE HELPED CREATE A COYOTE.

YOU CAN SEE ON THE NECK SIGHTINGS REPORT.

WELL, ONE THING I'M SEEING IS MEEK POINT.

I SEE A LOT OF, I HEAR A LOT OF SIGHTINGS.

KATIE'S COMING IN.

UM, THERE'S ONE FARM AROUND THERE.

THEY HAD SOME ANIMALS KILLED RECENTLY AS WELL.

AND YOU KNOW, MY GRANDFATHER WORKED FOR TENNESSEE WILDLIFE RESOURCE AGENCY.

I WAS A HUNTER, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AS A YOUNGER CHILD.

UM, AND THERE'S A PROBLEM,

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AND SO, IN MY OPINION, 'CAUSE I'M NOT DNR AND I THINK DNR WOULD LOVE TO GET INVOLVED AND I'VE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT MAYBE SEEING WHAT THESE ISLANDS THAT THE COUNTY BOUGHT ARE HARBORING.

UM, MY THING IS, I THINK THEY HAVE DENS THERE.

THEY'RE COMING IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE.

AND SO IF THE COUNTY COULD MAYBE LOOK IN INTO GETTING A TRAPPER OUT THERE OR A DNR REPRESENTATIVE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

UM, AND THAT'S JUST, AGAIN, AS JOHN ROBINSON SAID, WE DON'T DO WILDLIFE, BUT WE DO AGREE THIS IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.

AND SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO, FOR Y'ALL TO UNDERSTAND.

WE ARE DOING SIGHTINGS.

WE'RE GETTING 'EM ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

IF YOU GO DOWN ONE 70, I USED TO SEE A LOT OF DEER HIT BY CARS.

I DON'T SEE THAT MANY ANYMORE.

I WONDER WHAT'S HAPPENING ON LEMON ISLAND.

SO AGAIN, WE NEED TO ASSESS OUR WILDLIFE.

UM, THERE'S A WAY THAT DNR WOULD WORK WITH US.

WE MET, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO THEM MANY TIMES, UM, JUST ABOUT THAT SITUATION.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS BRINGING UP.

'CAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE MORE THINGS TO DO TODAY, BUT THAT'S ONE THING I DID WANT Y'ALL TO KEEP ON YOUR RADAR.

UM, THE WILDLIFE CAMPUS, WHICH WE'LL DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, LATER, WE'LL GET ON THE AGENDA.

I TALKED TO 'EM.

IT IS SOMETHING NEEDED.

UM, AGAIN, WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF ISSUES IN THIS COUNTY CONCERNING WILDLIFE, BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH DNR TO MAYBE COME UP WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD HAVE A PERMIT WHERE PEOPLE WOULD GET PERMITTED TO HAVE REHAB, THAT THEY COULD BE THE REHABBER.

SO WE CAN MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, ANIMALS ARE IN THE RIGHT HAND.

AND AGAIN, I'VE TALKED TO DNR, YOU KNOW, AND THEY AGREE THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD STEP FOR BUFORD.

UM, IT WOULD BE A FREE PERMIT, BUT IT'D BE A CLASS.

WE HAVE DONORS ALREADY IN PLACE READY TO ASSIST AND HELP.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL COME FORWARD SOON WITH IT ON THE AGENDA.

DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MA'AM.

I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT MAKE POINT.

I KNOW, UM, THE WILSONS PERSONALLY, UM, AND THEY, THEY DO HAVE A FARM.

I'M VERY AWARE OF THIS.

I I I'VE HEARD COYOTES AT SOUTHSIDE PARK.

UM, I HAVE, I HAVE CONSTITUENTS IN SHELL POINT WHO HAVE CITED AND TAKEN PICTURES OF COYOTES.

PEOPLE'S PETS ARE GETTING KILLED.

YOUR, YOUR CHICKEN, YOU KNOW, CHICKENS, LOTS OF THINGS ARE GETTING KILLED THAT SHOULDN'T BE KILLED BY THESE, UM, ANIMALS WHO ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.

PERIOD.

CORRECT.

AND IT'S OUT, IT'S OUTTA BALANCE.

AND WE'RE, IT'S OUTTA BALANCE.

AND WE NEED, YEAH.

WE NEED TO, UM, TAKE POSITIVE ACTION.

UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ADMINISTRATION TO, UM, DO WHAT WE CAN ON CHARLOTTE ISLAND WITH DNR AND WHOEVER ELSE.

AND I'M SURE OTHERS IN OUR, IN OUR OTHER COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE HAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT COYOTES TOO.

AND, AND ONE THING I, AND ONE THING I SAY TO PEOPLE IS WHEN WE HAVE A AGGRESSIVE DOG SOMEWHERE IN THIS COUNTY, WE GET CALLED, THE POLICE GET CALLED, WE'RE OUT THERE TRAPPING.

WE HAVE PACKS OF WILD DOGS THAT DON'T LOOK HEALTHY ON CAMERA.

'CAUSE I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THESE PICTURES COMING IN.

UM, THEY'RE VECTOR ANIMALS, RABIES SPECIES, AND, AND THEY'RE RUNNING IN PACKS.

AND MY FEAR IS THERE'S NO HUNTING IN MUNICIPALITIES.

THERE'S NO COOLING OF THE HERD TO BRING IT INTO BALANCE.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BRINGING, YOU KNOW, JOHN ROBINSON ARE BRINGING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

TAP.

SO SOUTH OF THE BROAD, IN SUN CITY WE HAVE COYOTES AND FOX DENS.

AND ONE THING WE'RE SEEING IS A REALLY LARGE NUMBER OF ANIMALS, INCLUDING, WHAT DO YOU CALL THEM? THE FERAL PIGS, THE BIG ONES.

THEY'RE COMING BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE TEARING DOWN OF THE TREES FOR HARVILLE MARGARITAVILLE AND SO ON.

AND SO WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THIS WILDLIFE.

WHAT I LIKED IS YOUR CHART HERE, CHECK WHAT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY.

PET FOOD, BIRD FEEDERS, ANIMAL FEEDERS, FRUIT TREES, LARGE BUSHES.

THESE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE CRITTERS COMING.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO WITH THE COYOTES.

THE FOX, THE FERAL PIGS ARE TRASHING PEOPLE'S LAWNS.

WE'RE HAVING THIS PROBLEM AS WELL.

YEAH.

AND IT'S JUST, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE CAN LOOK TO DNR AND GET A GAME PLAN FOR THIS COUNTY.

'CAUSE CHARLESTON, I, I SAW THAT ON SULLIVAN'S ISLAND AND SOMEBODY'S HERE FROM CHARLESTON, BUT THAT THEY HAVE COYOTES ARE PRESENT.

YOU KNOW, MY FEAR, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE AN ALARMIST, BUT THESE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TIME CHANGES AND IT GETS DARK AND YOU HAVE KIDS JOGGING DOWN THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL AND THERE ARE SIGHTINGS AROUND THERE.

THESE, THESE COYOTES DO NOT LOOK HEALTHY.

AND SO MY FEAR IS JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO WARN THE PUBLIC, JUST TO MAKE THEM ALERT.

TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TO KNOW WHAT TO DO IF YOU SEE A COYOTE.

'CAUSE AGAIN, WHEN THERE'S ONE WILD DOG, WE ARE OUT IN DROVES TRYING TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC.

BUT NOBODY'S DOING ANYTHING WITH THESE PACKS OF COYOTES.

THEY'RE NOT PROTECTED.

OR THE FOXES LIKE ALLIGATORS.

NO.

COYOTES ARE NOT PROTECTED.

NO, NO.

AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE JUST NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE A PREDATOR BUT US AND RABIES, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE,

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BUT, UM, YEAH, THERE'S NOT MUCH TO, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE HUNTING AND YOU GOTTA CORRECT.

YOU GOTTA BALANCE AND GET THINGS IN BALANCE.

AND WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THE ISSUES WITH BUILDING AROUND HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, SOONER THAN LATER, MR. JOHNSON, ULA THESE, THESE ANIMALS ARE WILD AND THEY'RE A THREAT NOT ONLY TO ANIMALS, BUT TO HUMANS AS WELL.

CORRECT.

AND, UH, WITH ALL THE SIGHTINGS, UH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S POPULATED IN THE, UH, MUNICIPAL, UH, COMMUNITIES, BUT OUT IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF BEAUFORT, UM, THEY'RE SHOWING UP ALSO.

CORRECT.

SO IS IT ILLEGAL TO KILL THEM? DO WE WAIT, THEY'RE NOT PROTECTED? NO.

YEAH, IT'S NOT PROTECTED.

YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE ON YOUR LAND.

LIKE, I HAVE A NIGHT PERMIT ON MY PROPERTY AND SO, AND YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH DNR AND THEY'RE VERY, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL EXPLAIN TO YOU, BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A NIGHT PERMIT.

BUT THAT'S THE THING IS UNINCORPORATED, WE TAKE CARE, IF I SAY A RACCOON, WE CAN DISPATCH IT.

PEOPLE IN THE CITY, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

THEY CAN'T DISARM A FIREARM, THEY CAN'T AFFORD TRAPPERS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THE COUNTY NEEDS TO GET, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY TO LOOK AT COUNTY PROPERTY TOO.

'CAUSE Y'ALL PROTECTED SO MUCH LAND, WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATE AND I WISH YOU'D PROTECT MORE AND MORE.

BUT, UM, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON ON THAT PROPERTY.

'CAUSE WE MIGHT BE HARBORING DANGEROUS ANIMALS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S NO HUNTING.

UM, AND DNR IS A GOOD STOP, YOU KNOW, STEPPING STONE TO SAY LOOK AT, TO MAYBE DOING A PERMIT HUNTING ON PROPERTY OR, BUT THE COUNTY PROPERTY'S HARBORING THESE ANIMALS.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING WITH ALL THESE SIGHTINGS.

THEY'RE COMING FROM PROPERTY THAT'S PROTECTED.

I'M TRYING TO RACK MY BRAIN.

WASN'T THERE A TIME, NOT SAYING THIS IS THE SOLUTION, BUT WASN'T THERE A TIME WHEN THEY DID THAT IN SEA PINES WITH THE DEER? YES.

THEY, THAT THEY WENT AND DID IT FOR LIKE A COUPLE WEEKS, RIGHT? YEAH.

SPRING ISLAND USED TO DO IT A LONG TIME AGO.

THEY'D HAVE A HUNT.

YEAH.

AND THEY, AND IT, IT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITH THE SHELTER WORLD, IT'S EUTHANIZED SPAY NEUTER.

YEAH.

BUT WITH WILDLIFE YOU HAVE FISHING AND HUNTING.

YEAH.

AND SO WE'RE JUST OUT OF BALANCE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO BRING SOMETHING IN.

UM, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU THINK THAT THEY SHOULD CONSIDER IN THESE HIGH POPULATED AREAS? OH, I DE I DEFINITELY THINK SO.

AND I THINK DNR COULD GIVE US MAYBE MORE INSIGHT OF IS THERE SOMEBODY WE CAN GET TO COME IN AND ASSESS THROUGH LOOKING AT SCAT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT TRACKS, THE POPULATION IS REALLY OUT THERE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT I, I, I TELL YOU WHAT MARSHES, I LOOK AT TRACKS, I ENJOY TRACKS AND I CAN GET WITH TONY MILLS AND PEOPLE THAT DO THIS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME AND JUST SEE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE COUNTY AND THE MARSHES.

UM, BECAUSE I AM SEEING LESS DEER TRACKS IN MY AREA, LADIES ISLAND AND MORE COYOTE TRACKS.

YEP.

SO, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

YES, SIR.

SIR, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.

UH, I'M, LOOK, I'M LOOKING, I'M LISTENING FOR RECOMMENDATION FROM DNR.

ARE YOU GONNA PURSUE A RECOMMENDATION FOR US FROM DNR OR HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? JOHN WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

YEAH.

YES SIR.

THANK YOU.

SO THE, SO THE PROGRAM ALULA IS, UH, TALKING ABOUT IS REALLY, UM, HAVING RESIDENTS HELP THE COUNTY IDENTIFY AREAS WHERE THESE, WHERE WILDLIFE NUISANCE PROBLEMS ARE.

AND THEN ONCE WE CAN PUT SOME FACT BEHIND THE, THESE NUISANCE AREAS, THEN WE CAN BEGIN TO WORK WITH DNR TO FIND THE CORRECT SOLUTIONS TO MANAGE THE WILDLIFE IN THOSE AREAS.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

OKAY, SURE.

YES.

WE MAYBE HAVE A CULLING PROGRAM, LIKE THEY DO DEER CULLING, ALLIGATOR CULLING.

MM-HMM.

.

CAN'T WE DO FOX THERE? THERE ARE A LOT OF PROGRAMS OUT THERE.

YEAH.

BUT BEAUFORT COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY IS FOR DOMESTIC ANIMALS.

YEAH.

SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE REACH INTO THE WILDLIFE AREA, IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE OF WORK.

SO WE CAN COLLECT THAT INFORMATION AND THEN WORK WITH OTHER AGENCIES TO, TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS OUT THERE.

YES MA'AM.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WHEN DID TAP YOU GOING HUNTING? ? JUST CURIOUS.

WHEN DID THE ALLIGATOR BECOME DOMESTIC? NO, IT'S NOT.

NO, THEY DO GET IN SWIMMING POOLS THOUGH.

I'VE SEEN IT GOING DOWN THAT ROAD ON YOUR OWN THERE.

THAT ONE.

ANYTHING ELSE, MR. ROBINSON? UH, NO SIR.

NO.

DO IT.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBER EIGHT, MOVE RIGHT ALONG WITH THESE WE'LL RECOMMEND APPROVAL

[9. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH LOWCOUNTRY REGIONAL TRANSIT AUTHORITY]

UM, JARED, DO WE NEED TO DO ANY PRESENTATION THIS, OR DO YOU JUST WANT ME TO GIVE A LITTLE RUNDOWN ON IT? UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL PUT THE MOTION ON THE TABLE TO SECOND.

I'LL SECOND IT.

I DON'T LIKE TO SECOND IT.

SECOND, WOULD YOU GO GET THE PRESENTATION? YEAH.

MOTION.

MY, UM, MR. GLOVER, SECOND BY MS. HOWARD.

HOW ARE YOU TODAY, JARED? I'M GREAT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, NO FORMAL PRESENTATION,

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SO WHAT THIS IS IS PALMETTO BREEZE, OUR TRANSIT PARTNER IN THE REGION, UM, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SPACE.

SO, UM, CURRENTLY THEY HAVE ABOUT 40 BUSES IN THE FLEET AND A LOT OF THOSE BUSES GO HOME EACH AND EVERY NIGHT TO THE DRIVEWAYS WHERE THE BUS DRIVERS LIVE.

A LOT OF 'EM BEING ON ST.

HELENA.

UM, AND SO WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS TWOFOLD, IS A, IS A STORAGE LOT AND THEN A SECURITY LOT.

SO ONE, UH, THAT'LL BE THE PLACE WHERE WORKERS START IN, IN THEIR DAY AND THEN ALSO THEY'RE SECURE MORE THAN THEY ARE IN THE DRIVEWAYS.

SO THIS CAME ABOUT JUST THROUGH GENERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH PALMETTO BREEZE AND, UM, IN DISCUSSIONS OF WHAT AVAILABLE AREAS THEY WERE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT PROPERTIES WE MIGHT HAVE.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING NORTH OF THE BROAD IN THE BEAUFORT PORT ROYAL AREA.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FOUR OR FIVE ACRES.

AND WE SAID, WELL, WE HAVE ONE ACRE HERE THAT'S A OLD CONVENIENCE CENTER THAT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED.

WOULD THAT BE OF USE? I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'LL BE ABLE TO STORE ALL OF THEIR VEHICLES, BUT MORE THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING STORED.

SO, UH, WE WENT THROUGH THAT AND THEY SAID, YEAH, THIS WOULD BE A SUITABLE PROPERTY.

AND SO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU IS A LEASE AGREEMENT, UH, FOR NOMINAL RATE.

IN ORDER FOR THEM TO HAVE THIS LOT, UM, WE WOULD DEMO OUT THE OLD CONVENIENCE CENTER USE AND HAVE IT AS A STORAGE LOT AND REDO THE FENCE AND THEN PROVIDE IT FOR THEM FOR THEIR USE THEREAFTER.

AND JUST 'CAUSE YOU, YOU AND I WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT DURING THE REVIEW, UM, THE CONTRACT ITSELF IS BA WAS A DOLLAR, RIGHT? YEAH.

A DOLLAR.

YEAH.

IT, IT'S JUST TO HAVE IT DOWN ON THE PAPER.

AND THIS IS A USE FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

UM, AND THE AGREEMENT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO USE IT MEAN IT'S PROPERTY WE'RE NOT EVEN USING ANYMORE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT SO WE'LL ABLE USE SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE OF PUBLIC FOR A POSITIVE OUTCOME OF IT.

UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JARED ON THAT? I HAVE QUESTIONS.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

UM, TO YOUR POINT, THIS, THIS PROPERTY'S IN MY DISTRICT MM-HMM.

.

AND IT'S, UH, AS JARED SAID, IT'S THE OLD CONVENIENCE CENTER AT THE CORNER OF, UH, KAS LOCK AND GROVER HILL ROAD AND, AND WE'RE NOT USING IT.

SO IT'S JUST ABANDONED SITTING THERE.

SO I THINK IT IS, IT IS A GOOD, UH, PROJECT TO US TO ACTUALLY JUST LEVEL IT AND ALLOW THE UM, UH, PALM BREEZE BREEZE TO ACTUALLY UTILIZE IT FOR STORAGE, WHICH IS A PROGRAM WE'RE CONTINUING TO TRY TO EXPAND ON.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE SUPPORT IT.

YEAH.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

IT SAYS NO FISCAL IMPACT, BUT THERE IS BECAUSE UNDER 5 6 1 WE'RE DOING THE IMPROVEMENTS.

WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED COST OF THOSE UPGRADES? YEAH, SO WE'RE DOING, UM, CLEANING IT UP RIGHT NOW JUST IN GENERAL WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

AND THEN, UM, WE'RE GETTING QUOTES, WE'RE GETTING THREE, THREE QUOTES FOR THE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS OF THE FENCE.

SO I DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE BACK YET, BUT IT WOULD, WHAT WE ARE, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS TO REDO THE EXISTING FENCE.

UM, AND THEN THE, THE BACK END DOESN'T HAVE A, IT'S A TRIANGLE SHAPED PROPERTY.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A FENCE TO SECURE THAT AND THEN TO MANUAL GATES.

SO WILL, WILL THEY PROVIDE SECURITY OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROVIDE IT? THEY WILL.

SO THE INTENT IS THAT WE WOULD DO THOSE INITIAL UPGRADES AND, AND THEN IT WOULD BE THEIRS.

IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, MAKE IT AUTOMATED GATES, WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE, THEY WOULD DO THAT AS THE, AS THE LEASE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.

THEY, IT'S THEIR INSURANCE.

UM, THEY WOULD'VE TO PROVIDE THEIR OWN SECURITY IF THEY WANTED TO.

AND ALSO ANY TYPE OF DAMAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S PALMETTO BRADY.

WE ARE JUST GIVING THEM THE CONTRACT FOR THE LAND TO UTILIZE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY USING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

CAN THIS BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION? YES.

YES, YES.

AND I SEE NO OBJECTION.

THAT WILL PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST ONE THING.

I JUST RECEIVED A NOTICE ON MY WAY HERE TODAY THAT THE BREEZE IS DECLARING MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 23RD AS THE WORLD CAR FREE DAY.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW ABOUT THAT? NO, I'VE NEVER HEARD NOTHING.

I JUST HEARD SAW IT COMING IN, BUT IT'S, UM, WORLD CAR FREE DAY.

SO TAKE THE BREEZE AND THEN POST YOUR EXPERIENCE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO THAT'S MONDAY THE 23RD.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT, MOVING ON.

NUMBER NINE, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REQUEST A

[10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A REQUEST TO PURCHASE (1) CAT 308 MINI HYDRAULIC EXCAVATOR ($154,771).]

UM, IMPACT IS 154,000 AND CHANGE, UM, FUNDING HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN THE STORMWATER ACCOUNT.

UM, JUST PULLED UP ON THE SCREEN IF WE COULD.

DO WE STILL HAVE THAT PICTURE OF THE ONE WE HAD BEFORE OR I THINK IT WAS OUR OLD ONE THAT WE HAD A PICTURE OF.

UM, BUT OURS IS PASSED THE LIFE EXPECTANCY ALREADY, UM, BY TWO TO THREE YEARS.

SO WE'RE DEFINITELY DUE FOR IT.

UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO PUT THIS ON THE FLOOR? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.

UM, BEFORE YOU EVEN ASK TAB.

NO, YOU CAN'T DRIVE THIS ONE EITHER.

NO, THIS ONE'S A LITTLE SCARY.

BUT WE ARE SAVING $46,000.

YES.

AND WE WILL ALSO, WE TALKED TO MR. ROBINSON, WHO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF OUR FINANCES OF THESE, ANYTIME WE HAVE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE ARE TOOLS, EQUIPMENT THAT WE SEND TO AUCTION, WE'RE

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UM, THIS IS OUR ONE WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

UM, THE PLAN FOR THIS ONE WILL BE GO UP TO AUCTION, UM, TO RECOUP SOME OF THAT MONEY AS WELL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? CAN THIS BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION? YES.

AND I SEE NO OBJECTION ON THAT ONE.

THAT WILL APPROVE, BE APPROVED AS WELL.

NUMBER 10, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE

[11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A CHANGE ORDER TO DAVIS & FLOYD FOR RFP#092420TE LADY’S ISLAND ACCESS ROADS DESIGN AND ENGINEERING]

TE LADIES ISLAND ACCESS ROAD DESIGN AND ENGINEERING.

UM, JARED, DO YOU WANNA PRESENT ON THAT ONE REAL QUICK? DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT UP ON THE FLOOR AS WELL? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

I'LL SECOND IT.

AND SECONDED BY MR. GLOVER.

THANK YOU.

YES.

SO THIS IS ONE OF OUR 2018 SALES TAX PROJECTS.

UM, SO BACK IN MARCH OF 2021, WE AWARDED A CONTRACT AWARD.

WE, WE HAVE NINE PROJECTS IN LADIES ISLAND, UM, TWO BEING THE MAJOR CORRIDORS 21 AND 8 0 2.

AND WE HIRED THAT AS ONE CONSULTANT.

AND THEN THE ACCESS ROADS, WE HIRED AS A SECOND CONSULTANT WITH DAVIS AND FLOYD.

AND SO INITIALLY THE CONTRACT WAS $2.5 MILLION, WHICH INCLUDED CONTINGENCY SO THAT WE HELD THE, WHENEVER WE BRING A CONTRACT TO COUNCIL, WE BRING THE CONTRACT VALUE WITH THE ACTUAL CONSULTANT OR CONTRACTOR.

AND THEN WE TYPICALLY HAVE A, A CONTINGENCY THAT WE ASKED FOR AUTHORIZATION TO BE FUNDED DURING THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT.

SO THAT 2.5, UH, THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT VALUE WAS THE 2.2 MILLION AND IT HAD A $230,000 CONTINGENCY FOR THE TOTAL 2.5 AUTHORIZATION OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.

WE'VE, UM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE CHANGE ORDERS INSIDE THAT CONTINGENCY VALUE AND WE'VE EXTENDED THAT THROUGH, UM, THROUGH ADMINISTRATION AND PROCUREMENT.

AND THEN, UM, WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS WE'VE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL PROJECTS OR ADDITIONAL WORK, UH, SPECIFICALLY ON THE LADIES ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL.

WE ADDED ROBIN ROAD THAT CAME UP DURING OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ABOUT A SIDEWALK, UM, BEING ADDED ON ROBIN ROAD THAT WAS NOT INITIALLY CONCEIVED.

SO WE'VE ADDED THAT SCOPE OF WORK AND THEN ALSO ON GATE DRIVE AND HAZEL FARM, SOME ADDITIONAL.

UH, WHEN WE, WHEN WE PAUSED ON THE LADIES ISLAND HIGH SCHOOL OR, UM, BEAUFORT HIGH SCHOOL ACCESS, WHAT WE WERE DOING ON THAT AREA, WE MADE SOME PROVISIONS ON THE, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET AT LADIES ISLAND, OR EXCUSE ME, AT, UM, HAZEL FARM AND GAY DRIVE.

UM, SO WE, THOSE HAVE BEEN THE CONTRACTS THROUGH DATE.

AND SO WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF THIS IS A CHANGE ORDER AND THE NEXT PAGE HAS SOME MORE DETAIL ON IT, IS, UM, FOR ADDITIONAL WORK, UM, SOME PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND APPRAISAL WORK TO BE ADDED TO THE CONTRACT VALUE FOR DAVIS EMPLOYED.

AND THEN ALSO A RE REESTABLISHMENT OF SOME ADDITIONAL CONTINGENCY, UH, TO BE AUTHORIZED TO BE PAID FROM SALES TAX FUNDS.

SO FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT, WE'RE, WE'RE CONSIDERED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY 60%, 70% DESIGN ON A LOT OF THOSE ACCESS ROADS.

UH, WE HAVE A FEW PUBLIC MEETINGS LEFT AND SO IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER CHANGES BETWEEN NOW AND THE FINAL, UH, PERMITS AND FINAL DESIGN THAT THIS ADDITIONAL CONTINGENCY WOULD MAKE PROVISION FOR THAT.

SO ALL IN ALL, WE HAVE $226,000 THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO, UH, THEIR CONTRACT RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN AGAIN, THE $330,000 IS CONTINGENCY THAT THE COUNTY WOULD HOLD IF ADDITIONAL CHANGES ARE NEEDED THROUGHOUT THEIR LIFE OF THE, OF THE CONTRACT.

SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN IS APPROVAL OR AUTHORIZATION OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT, WHICH TOTALS $556,000, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AND, AND JARED, THE 2 26, THAT'S ALL ADDED TO THE SCOPE WORK, THAT'S NOT INFLATION, THAT'S NOT SHORTCOMINGS.

NO, IT'S ALL, ALL HAVING WORK TO IT JUST WORK ADDED THROUGHOUT THE, THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE AND THEY'VE HAD SOME TWISTS AND TURNS FROM VARIOUS REASONS.

UM, PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, COUNCIL DIRECTION, UM, STORM DRAINAGE, UM, THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T ENVISION INITIALLY WHEN WE SCOPED OUT THE PROJECT.

UM, SO THAT'S THE BASIS OF WHAT THESE CHANGE ORDERS ARE FOR.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHEN DO YOU EXPECT RESIDENTS WITH THESE SHOVELS IN THE GROUND TO MAKE THIS A REALITY? I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA ASK YOU THAT.

YEAH, SO, UH, THESE ARE 60%, SO OUR BIGGEST HURDLE THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS RIGHT AWAY.

UM, SO THE, IF WE CAN GET THE RIGHT OF AWAY, WE USUALLY PROVIDE, UH, ANYWHERE FROM SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF OF RIGHT AWAY DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT.

AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE THE BIGGEST DETERRENT.

WE'RE AT 60% NOW, SO WE'RE STARTING THE RIGHT OF AWAY ON BASICALLY ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.

UM, SO, UH, THE SHORT TERM IS, IS SIX MONTHS AND THE LONG TERM'S,

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AND BRITTANY BISHOP, OUR PROGRAM MANAGER, UM, SHE MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY TO ADD TO THAT.

DID YOU EXPLAIN TO PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO? I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY .

YEAH, BECAUSE WE KNOW, BUT MAYBE, YEAH, SO, SO THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION IS IF WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO EXTEND BEYOND, UM, ITS EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY AND WHETHER THAT'S FIVE FEET OR OR 15 FEET, WE HAVE TO GO AND APPROACH THE LANDOWNERS EACH AND EVERY LANDOWNER.

SO IF THERE'S A ROAD THAT'S A HALF A MILE AND IT HAS FIVE LANDOWNERS ON EACH SIDE, 10 LANDOWNERS, UH, FOR EACH 15 FOOT SWATH OR FIVE FOOT SWATH, WE HAVE TO APPROACH THEM AND WE GET APPRAISAL.

WE, WE MAKE THEM A OFFER.

WE ENTER NEGOTIATION, WE UPDATE IT, WE GO BACK AND FORTH WITH ANY NEGOTIATION AND, AND THEN WE SETTLE ON A PRICE AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT TIMES 10 OR HOWEVER MANY PARCELS ARE ON THAT ROAD IMPROVEMENT.

SO HOW MANY ARE WE ESTIMATING ON THIS PROJECT? I'M SURE IT'S A HIGH NUMBER.

SO THIS IS ALL FOUR? WELL, THERE FOUR PROJECTS.

YEAH, THERE'S FOUR SEPARATE PROJECTS.

SO I THINK IT'S ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT A HUNDRED PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS.

UM, AND THAT'S ALSO GONNA INCLUDE OUR CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS THAT WE MAY NEED TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY WHILE WE GO THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.

AND SEE THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR PUBLIC TO KNOW BECAUSE THEY THINK WE JUST DO THIS, THIS IS WHAT HOLDS UP A PROJECT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND, AND IT IS JUST PART OF DOING ROAD WORK.

I MEAN IT'S DIFFERENT THAN UM, OTHER TYPES OF PROJECTS.

UH, A BUILDING PROJECT WHERE WE OWN ALL THE PROPERTY, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

BUT TYPICALLY ON MAJOR ROAD, UH, LINEAR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, WE HAVE A LONG RIGHT OF WAY PROCESS, WHICH IS WHY I DON'T KNOW IF A LOT OF YOU WATCHED THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING LAST WEEK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT OTHER SECTION OF THE COOLER TRACK I THINK WAS LISTED AS COOLER TRACK PART B.