8.a. An Ordinance of the Town of Hilton Head Island, South Carolina Amending Title 12, Chapter 3, of the Municipal Code Entitled: Motor Vehicles and Traffic Control, Parking, to Revise Regulations Related to Paid Parking and Other Matters Related Thereto, and to Provide for Severability and an Effective Date, First Reading – Josh Gruber, Deputy Town Manager

[8.a. An Ordinance of the Town of Hilton Head Island, South Carolina Amending Title 12, Chapter 3, of the Municipal Code Entitled: Motor Vehicles and Traffic Control, Parking, to Revise Regulations Related to Paid Parking and Other Matters Related Thereto, and to Provide for Severability and an Effective Date, First Reading – Josh Gruber, Deputy Town Manager]

THE LAST TWO YEARS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS AND WE WILL HAVE MR. GRUBER UP WITH THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 12 CHAPTER THREE OF THE UNIVERSAL CODE ENTITLED MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC CONTROL PARKING REVISE REGULATION RELATED TO PAID PARKING ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED BY TOWN ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2023.

BUT THE DECISION WAS MADE TO WITHHOLD FURTHER CONSIDERATION UNTIL OTHER RELEVANT CRITERIA COULD BE CONSIDERED THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AS WELL AS MEMBER OF TOWN COUNCIL HAVE REQUESTED REVISIONS. MR. GRUBER THANK MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. SO BEFORE YOU DO THAT ON YOUR AGENDA YOU HAVE TWO ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION .

AS PART OF MY PRESENTATION TODAY I'M GOING TO COVER BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS BECAUSE OF THE INTERCONNECTED NATURE OF THEM. BUT ONCE WE'RE DONE COVERING THAT, YOU'RE ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE VOTING SEPARATELY FIRST ON AN ORDINANCE CREATING THE FRAMEWORK FOR A PARKING MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. AND SECOND ON A RESOLUTION THAT'S GOING SET FORTH VARIOUS POLICY CONSIDERATIONS SUCH AS RATES, HOURS OF OPERATION AND DAYS OF COLLECTION, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND SO AGAIN IN THIS PRESENTATION I'M GOING TO BE COVERING BOTH JUST BECAUSE OF HOW INTERCONNECTED THEY ARE BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON EACH OF THOSE SEPARATELY WHEN IT COMES TO THE APPROPRIATE TIME. SO LET ME COVER WHAT I'M GOING TO OVERVIEW TODAY AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION. I'M GOING TO OFF BY DEFINING THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROGRAM AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS AND ULTIMATELY THROUGH PUTTING IN PLACE A PROGRAM FOR PAID PARKING. I'M GOING REVIEW THE ELEMENTS OF THE BEACH PARKING ORDINANCE THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT DOCUMENT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THEM. WE'LL ALSO REVIEW THE ELEMENTS OF THE RESOLUTION.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THERE'S TWO SEPARATE DOCUMENTS ARE WE WANT TO SET FORTH THE FRAMEWORK THE TOWN CODE BUT THE MATTERS OF POLICY WE WANT TO KEEP NIMBLE AND FLEXIBLE AND THEREFORE IF WE ADOPT THOSE BY RESOLUTION IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THIS BODY TO COME BACK AND MAKE AMENDMENTS IN THE FUTURE. SHOULD IT BE NECESSARY TO DO SO.

I'M NEXT GOING TO REVIEW THE COMPARATIVE PARKING RATE DATA. THIS IS INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND ULTIMATELY WAS PART OF THE FOUNDATION FOR THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS THAT ARE COMING TO YOU THIS EVENING.

BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ACCESS TO THIS DATA AND THAT WAY YOU'RE ALL WORKING WITH THE SAME INFORMATION. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO EXAMINE AND

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REVIEW REVENUE AND EXPENSE PROJECTIONS. I HAVE TO THANK ADRIANA BURNETTE, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. SHE WAS VERY IN PULLING TOGETHER THIS THIS ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT SEVERAL OPTIONS THAT ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION AND BE ABLE TO HAVE A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING WITH KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS UNDERLYING THIS.

BUT THOSE ASSUMPTIONS IN MIND WE CAN HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT FINANCIALLY A REVENUE AND EXPENSE PROJECTION. WE'RE THEN GOING TO SUMMARIZE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING TO YOU FROM THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. AND THEN LASTLY, I'M GOING TO OUTLINE ALL OF THOSE VARIOUS VARIOUS POLICY MATTERS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU ULTIMATELY FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM PURPOSE. THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING IN PLACE A PARKING PROGRAM IS TO CONTROL DEMAND AND BEACH PARKING DECISIONS.

TO COMMUNICATE INFORMATION ON BEACH PARKING AVAILABILITY AN ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO CONSIDER TO PROVIDE AREAS THAT ARE SAFE AND SECURE AND TO PROVIDE A PAID PROGRAM THAT IS CONVENIENT, USER FRIENDLY AND ABOVE ALL PROVIDE SUPERIOR CUSTOMER SERVICE. AND LASTLY, WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THROUGH THE IMPOSITION OF THIS PROGRAM OR PROTECTING ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES FROM PAID PARKING OVERFLOW IMPACTS SOME OF WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY SEEING WITHOUT HAVING A PROGRAM AND FOR WHICH WE NEED TO BE PREPARED ONCE WE IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THIS BODY. SO THAT PURPOSE STATEMENT HAS BEEN INCLUDED WITHIN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE SO THAT IT CAN BE CLEAR BOTH NOW AND AS MOVE FORWARD WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF THIS PROGRAM. SO I JUST MENTIONED THAT AS THE CORE OBJECTIVES OF THE ORDINANCE THE FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THE GENERAL POLICY FRAMEWORK THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THERE AS THE FIRST THING WE LEAD OFF WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT REMOVING SOME OF THE ANTIQUATED LANGUAGE THAT'S IN OUR CODE .

WE HAD A LOT OF REFERENCES TO COIN OPERATED PARKING METERS THINGS THE LIKES OF WHICH YOU DON'T SEE ALL THAT MUCH OR AT LEAST WITH THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND GOING FORWARD. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DEFINE THE PAY BEACH PARKING AREAS.

AGAIN, THE TOWN HAS MANY PROPERTIES BUT RIGHT NOW FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS PROGRAM WE'RE FOCUSING ON A CERTAIN NUMBER. AND AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU DO OR DO NOT HAVE TO CHARGE FOR PARKING THAT CAN BE SET FORTH IN THE RESOLUTION. BUT AS PART OF THIS OVERALL FRAMEWORK WE'RE SETTING FORTH ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WE BELIEVE ARE PART OF OUR BEACH PARKING PROGRAM.

AND LASTLY, WE WANT TO DEVELOP RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR ADMINISTERING THE PARKING PROGRAM AND THE CORRESPONDING ENFORCEMENT MEASURES THAT ARE GOING TO BE NECESSARY TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ADHERE TO THESE REGULATIONS SO. SO LET'S BREAK OUT THE ELEMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE. WE START OFF AGAIN WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT STATEMENT TO MAKE IT CLEAR AT THE BEGINNING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO .

WE THEN PROVIDE A DEFINITION SECTION. THE INTENT THIS IS TO PROVIDE CLEAR INTERPRETATIONS FOR ALL TERMS AND TERMINOLOGIES THAT ARE USED IN THE SUCCEEDING SECTIONS TO MAKE IT'S CLEAR TO READERS WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH.

WE PAID PARKING AREAS AGAIN THOSE ARE ALL THE BEACH PARK AREAS THAT ARE LISTED IN THERE DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO IMPOSE PARKING AT ANY OR ALL OF THEM.

WE'RE JUST LISTING THAT ARE PART OF THIS PROGRAM FEES PAYMENT AND ENFORCEMENT.

THIS SAYS THAT IF YOU DO DECIDE TO PUT IN PLACE PARKING FEES DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT'S IN PLACE TODAY THAT IT WILL BE A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT PEOPLE TO PARK THERE TO COMPLY WITH WHATEVER TERMS YOU SET FORTH CORRESPONDING TO THOSE PARKING FEES.

WE DO LIST CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS. ONE OF THE BIG ONES IS IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT BEACH PARKING HOLDER YOU ARE EXEMPT FROM HAVING TO PAY THESE PARKING FEES.

AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT IT'S TO RESIDENTS THAT AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON PEOPLE ARE VISITING US, PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING FROM OTHER AREAS FOR VARYING OF TIME. BUT AS A RESIDENT IF YOU HAVE A BEACH PARKING PASS THIS REALLY ISN'T GOING TO APPLY TO YOU. RULES REGULATIONS THIS CLEARLY SPELLS OUT WHAT BEHAVIOR IS ALLOWED YOU NEED TO PARK DEFINE SPACES YOU CAN'T PARK IN THE LANDSCAPING YOU CAN'T PARK WHEREVER IT PLEASES. A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN THIS MAKES CLEAR THAT NOT ONLY YOU NEED TO PAY IF YOU THAT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL TO IMPOSE OR YOU NEED TO PARK WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE OR ELSE BE SUBJECT TO THE VARIOUS PENALTIES THAT ARE OUTLINED FURTHER IN THIS ORDINANCE AND. THEN LASTLY WE'VE OUTLINED AN APPEALS PROCESS FOR ANYBODY WHO SHOULD RECEIVE A PARKING CITATION. THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO ADMINISTER IT ON A ADMINISTRATIVE BASIS SO IT WOULD NOT A CRIMINAL PENALTY IT WOULD NOT GO TO THE MAGISTRATE COURT. THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ISSUED DIRECTLY TO THE VEHICLE WHATEVER CONDITION FOUND IN.

AND THEN WE PROVIDE AN APPEALS PROCESS TO ENSURE DUE PROCESS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE AN APPEAL AND AS OUTLINED IN THE ORDINANCE WE HAVE PROPOSED CURRENTLY IS A THREE TIERED SYSTEM. THE FIRST LEVEL OF APPEAL WOULD BE TO PCI MUNICIPAL SERVICES THEMSELVES TO RESOLVE ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS. THE SECOND WOULD THEN BE TO THE

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TOWN ATTORNEY AND FINALLY TO A COURT FOR ADJUDICATION. NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CORRESPONDING RESOLUTION GOES WITH THE ORDINANCE. THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE PARKING PROGRAM ARE LAID OUT AND MANY OF THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO DECIDING ON AS PART OF THIS ISSUE.

SO FIRST AND FOREMOST IS PARKING FEES. SO THIS IS THE RATE THAT BE CHARGED TO PARK IN ANY OR ALL OF THESE SPACES. WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED ESTABLISHING A DAILY MAXIMUM FEE IN OF PAYING ON AN HOURLY BASIS THE RESIDENT BEACH PARKING PASSES AGAIN BECAUSE OF ITS INTERCONNECTIVITY TO UNDERLYING PAID PARKING.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO REAFFIRM WHO'S RESIDENT, HOW MANY PASSES AND WHAT RESIDENTS SHOULD PAY TO OBTAIN THOSE. HOURS OF OPERATION SPEAKS TO ALL THE STANDARDIZE HOURS OF OPERATION WITHIN THE PARKS. WE NEED TO KNOW WHEN THEY OPEN. WE NEED TO KNOW WHEN THEY CLOSE AND THEN DURING THOSE HOURS WHEN AND IF WE WILL CHARGE FOR PARKING AT THOSE LOCATIONS.

THE DATES FOR THE COLLECTION PARKING FEES ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE AS A RECOMMENDATION COMING OUT OF THE COMMITTEE IS THAT PARKING BE IMPOSED SEASONALLY AND AS SUCH WE WOULD WANT DEFINE WHAT THAT SEASONAL APPLICATION WOULD BE AND THEREFORE CAN CREATE CORRESPONDING SIGNAGE AND MAKE SURE TO ADVERTISE AND COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE PUBLIC BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER ANY OF THE PAID SEASONS.

WE'VE GOT A PROVISION IN THERE THAT ALLOWS THE SUSPENSION OF PARKING FEES RELATED TO PERMIT AND SPECIAL EVENT ACTIVITIES. THAT'S SOMETHING WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT FLEXIBILITY.

AND THEN LASTLY GENERAL AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IMPLEMENTING AND EXECUTING THE PAID BEACH PARKING. SO LET'S LOOK AT THE COMPARATIVE DATA THAT WENT INTO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY'S CONSIDERATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS BODY. WE SURVEYED A LOT OF COMMUNITIES BOTH WITHIN SOUTH CAROLINA AND SURROUNDING AND COMPARABLE AREAS AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S A MIXED BAG IN TERMS OF RATES. HOWEVER, ULTIMATELY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS ESPECIALLY A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT CHARGE FLAT RATES INSTEAD OF PAYING ON AN HOURLY BASIS ONE OF OUR UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONS IS THAT THE AVERAGE SESSION FOR A BEACHGOER SOMEWHERE AROUND THREE AND A HALF HOURS AND SO IF YOU TAKE A $20 PER DAY OR $25 PER DAY FLAT RATE AND DIVIDE THAT BY THREE AND A HALF, IT GIVES YOU AN HOURLY PARKING RATE IN EXCESS OF $5. AND SO FOR US THE RATES APPEAR BE GENERALLY IN THE RANGE OF 3 TO $5 WITH DAILY MAXIMUM RATES RANGING ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO $25 AND THEN SOME CHARGING FLAT RATES ON THE WEEKENDS WHICH ARE TEND TO BE THE MOST PEAK DEMAND TIMES.

SO BECAUSE OF THIS WE BELIEVE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD YOU ARE KEEPING WITHIN THE GENERAL MARKET COMPETITIVENESS OF THE AREAS THAT ARE CHARGING AND WOULD HIGHLIGHT THAT WHEN WE DID THIS RESEARCH AND WE'VE UPDATED IT AS OF AUGUST 1ST OF THIS YEAR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO US IS THE FACT THAT HILTON HEAD IS OF THE ONLY COMMUNITIES THAT DOES NOT CHARGE FOR BEACH PARKING.

SO THAT IS THE OUTLIER TO US. BUT IN TERMS OF THE RATES THAT ARE PROPOSED IS REALLY THE MARKET DATA THAT'S BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING NOW CURRENTLY THERE ARE FOUR BEACH PARKS ALDER LANE DRIESSEN FOLLY FIELD AND ISLANDERS THAT CURRENTLY CHARGE FOR PARKING. THOSE RATES VARY FROM $0.50 AN HOUR AT DREESEN TO $1 PER HOUR AND ALDER LANE FALLING FIELD AND ISLANDERS RIGHT NOW THE PARK HOURS VARY. SO DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS THE PARKS ARE OPEN FROM 6 A.M. TO 9 P.M. AND THEN THAT CHANGES DURING THE WINTER MONTHS SO THAT THEY'RE ONLY OPEN FROM 6 A.M. TO 6 P.M.. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING STANDARDIZE THOSE HOURS AND MAKE THEM UNIFORM YEAR ROUND.

WE WOULD HAVE THE PARKS OPEN UP AT 6 A.M. AND WE WOULD HAVE THE PARKS CLOSE AT 10 A.M..

IN THINKING ABOUT MOST OF THE I'M SORRY 10 P.M. NOT 10:10 A.M. 6 A.M. 10 P.M..

OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE FAST. ALL RIGHT.

BUT OUR THOUGHT WITH THAT IS YOU'RE GOING TO CAPTURE MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE BEACH GOING PEOPLE AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY WANT TO DO. THEY WANT TO CATCH THE SUNRISE AT THE BEACH. THEY'RE LIKELY TO NOT GET THERE BEFORE 6 A.M. IN THE MORNING AND IF THEY'RE STAYING TO SUNSET, THEY'RE LIKELY TO NOT STAY LATER 10 P.M..

SO FOR US THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY TRYING TO CAPTURE WHEN WE WOULD MOST PEOPLE TO COME AND GO FROM THOSE PROPERTIES. AND RIGHT NOW THEY NOT SEASONAL IN APPLICATION SO THE RATES THAT ARE CHARGED ARE THE YEAR ROUND OF TIME OF DAY REGARDLESS OF TIME OF YEAR.

WE ALSO HIGHLIGHTED IN HERE THAT A COUPLE OF THEM DREESEN BEACH PARK AND ISLANDERS BOTH HAVE RESTRICTED SPACES THAT DO NOT HAVE PAID PARKING ON THEM. THEY'RE LIMITED TO PARK PASS HOLDERS. AND SO AGAIN WE JUST WANTED TO CALL THAT OUT IN TERMS OF THE

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RATES WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET CONFUSED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT IN ADDITION TO GETTING A PARKING PASS. WE'VE INCLUDED SOME BUDGETARY INFORMATION MORE FROM A HISTORICAL STANDPOINT SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND BOTH WHAT THIS PROGRAM HAS COST TO DATE AND WHAT IT IS LIKELY TO COST GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

SO RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF YOU YOU SEE THAT THIS WAS THE FBI 24 SO LAST YEAR BUDGET SUBMISSION FROM THE CONTRACTOR. YOU'LL THAT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THIS BUDGET WAS CAPITAL AND EXPENSES SO THIS WAS THE INSTALLATION OF A LOT OF THE PHYSICAL EQUIPMENT THAT YOU SEE OUT THERE THE CAMERAS, THE GATE ARMS, THE HOCKEY PUCKS AS WELL AS SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT GOES WITH IT IN TERMS BEING ABLE TO PROCESS PASSES, BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THIS INFORMATION AND HOPEFULLY HERE IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE WE WILL HAVE A REAL TIME PLATFORM TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE ABOUT AVAILABILITY OF PARKING WITHIN ALL OF THESE AREAS. THIS IS THE CURRENT FBI 25 BUDGET YOU'LL SEE THERE'S CERTAINLY NOT AS MUCH TECHNOLOGY OR EXPENSES. THE MAJORITY OF IT'S NOW TRANSITIONED INTO GENERAL OPERATING EXPENSES WITH THE MAJORITY OF BEING SALARIES, BENEFITS AND LABOR ASSOCIATED WITH ADMINISTERING THESE SERVICES.

THIS GIVES YOU KIND OF I THINK A BASE BENCH LINE OF OF THE PROGRAM EXPENSES AND WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE GOING FORWARD. WE'VE HAD SOME INTERNAL CALCULATIONS ABOUT LABOR AND COST THAT YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT WE HAVE UNLESS WE REQUEST INCREASED STAFFING LEVELS I BELIEVE WE CAN GENERALLY EXPECT TO SEE THAT FIGURE ARE CLOSE THERE TO ON A RECURRING BASIS. SO ONCE CONSIDERED WE WENT OVER THE CURRENT CONDITIONS THERE WAS FOUR LOCATIONS RANGING FROM $0.50 AN HOUR TO A DOLLAR AN HOUR. THE NUMBER OF SPACES WITHIN THOSE FOUR LOCATIONS IS 266 AND FOR OF PROJECTING REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES WE LOOK AT UTILIZATION OF THOSE DIFFERENT PLACES BASED UPON TIMES OF DAY THEN TIMES OF YEAR. WEEKENDS ARE THE BUSIEST AS COMPARED TO WEEKDAYS. THE SUMMER MONTHS ARE BUSIER AS COMPARED TO THE WINTER MONTHS AND SO YOU'LL SEE A UTILIZATION RANGE OF ANYWHERE FROM 10% TO 80% TO TRY AND CAPTURE THOSE VARYING LEVELS OF DEMAND. BUT TO GIVE US PROJECTIONS THAT WE CAN USE GOING FORWARD WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDATIONS IS ANYWHERE FROM NOT CHARGING PARKING AT ALL TO CHARGING AT ALL SEVEN IDENTIFIED LOCATIONS THE RATE WOULD BE AGAIN CHARGING ANYTHING AT ALL TO A MAXIMUM OF $5 AN HOUR IS THE MOST THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION COMING OUT OF THE COMMITTEE IF ALL SEVEN LOCATIONS ARE INCLUDED, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IS 1101 BUT WITH CHAPLIN BEACH PARK BEING EXEMPTED DURING YOUTH RECREATIONAL SPORTS WHICH I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE THAT DROPS THAT FIGURE DURING THAT TIME THE 758.

AGAIN ASSUMING THE SAME 10 TO 80% UTILIZATION BUT NOW STANDARDIZED HOURS OPERATION YEAR ROUND AND PAID PARKING WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED ONLY A PORTION OF THOSE HOURS EACH DAY AND IN TERMS OF SETTING A CAP WE WOULDN'T PROPOSE A CAP AND BEEN VARYING RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE HIGHEST BEING $30 PER DAY. SO LET'S LOOK AT OUR PROJECTIONS AND REALLY SOME OF THE UNDERLYING ELEMENTS ABOUT HOW WE OBTAIN THOSE PROJECTIONS. FIRST THING THAT I WOULD HIGHLIGHT IS THAT WE ARE CALCULATING 1101 PARKING SPACES TO THIS MODEL THAT ALL BEACH PARKING LOCATIONS WILL IMPOSE PAID PARKING. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE LISTED ALL THE MONTHS HERE AND THEN THE DAYS PER MONTH AND THEN APPLIED THAT UTILIZATION THAT I MENTIONED WITH SOME OF THE WINTER MONTHS BEING VERY LOW AND SOME OF THE SUMMER MONTHS BEING THE HIGHEST AND THEN WE LOOK AT AVERAGE PARKING SESSION DURING THOSE TIMES YOU PUT THOSE INTO AN ALGEBRA ALGEBRA FORMULA AND YOU COME UP WITH THESE PROJECTIONS AT $3 AN HOUR, $5 AN HOUR AT $7 AN HOUR.

I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE $3 AN HOUR COLUMN BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY. AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOUR REFERENCE IN LOOKING AT JUST A SEASONAL APPLICATION OF THIS IT AMENDS THE FIGURES BUT YOU'LL SEE ONLY JUST SLIGHTLY IF IT'S YEAR ROUND COLLECTION LOOKING AT ABOUT 1.6 MILLION IN GROSS COLLECTIONS AND IF WE'RE JUST SEASONAL IT'S $100,000 LESS AT 1.5. AND LOOKING AT OUR EXPENSE PROJECTIONS AGAIN THESE ARE INTERNAL NUMBERS. WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT WHAT LABOR COSTS WOULD BE, WE PROJECTED WOULD BE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THIS AMOUNT AND THEN OTHER EXPENSES FOR UNIFORMS, EQUIPMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS LABOR FIGURE DOES NOT INCLUDE FRINGE BENEFIT COSTS WHICH WOULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 40%

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OF YOUR OVERALL LABOR EXPENSES . SO YOU WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO ADD IN ABOUT $150,000 TO THIS FIGURE IF. YOU ARE GOING TO PROVIDE THAT LABOR ON A FULL TIME BASIS AND AGAIN FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES PCI'S FY 25 CONTRACT IS JUST LITTLE BIT OVER $600,000 SO WHEN APPLY THE EXPENSES TO YOUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS YOUR NET REVENUE PROJECTIONS AT THE RECOMMENDED $3 AN HOUR SEASONAL APPLICATION WOULD NET THE TOWN APPROXIMATELY $1 MILLION? BUT AGAIN YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE OUT BENEFIT COSTS WHICH WOULD ABOUT 100 HUNDRED AND 50,000 SO JUST SLIGHTLY LESS THAN $1,000,000 PER YEAR.

ONE OTHER THING TO NOTE HERE WITHIN A YEAR SIX WE ASSUME THESE RATES WOULD REMAIN FLAT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN WOULD BE ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION IN YEAR SIX MOVING FORWARD AND THEN HELD FLAT FROM YEAR SIX THROUGH TEN. SO A NUMBER OF ASSUMPTIONS BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WENT INTO PROVIDING THESE PROJECTIONS.

SO IN TERMS OF WHAT THE TOWN COULD USE THIS ADDITIONAL FOR, WE WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT THE TOWN IS CURRENTLY EXPENDING FUNDS ON TO SUPPORT OUR BEACH PARKS AND BEACH PARK OPERATIONS. AND SO THIS CHART RIGHT HERE SHOWS A NUMBER OF THINGS AND AGAIN THESE ARE ALREADY EXPENSES THAT ARE IN THE FBI FIVE BUDGET THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR SUPPORT BEACH PARKING REVENUES IF WE WANTED TO APPROACH IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF ANY EXCESS REVENUES THAT ARE GENERATED ARE REINVESTED BACK WITHIN THE PARKING MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND YOU CAN SEE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT IS BEACH RENOURISHMENT ACTIVITIES AND 60 MILLION BUT EVEN BEYOND THEM IN TOTAL THERE'S $25 MILLION IN EXPENSES THAT THE TOWN IS LOOKING AT INCURRING RELATED TO ITS BEACH PARKING ACTIVITIES. AND SO WE PROVIDE THIS JUST AS INFORMATION FOR PLANNING PURPOSES THAT IF THE TOWN DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD THESE ARE THINGS THAT CAN CONSIDER IN TERMS OF USING THOSE EXCESS REVENUES TO REINVEST BACK THE PROGRAM.

SO LET ME SUMMARIZE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING TO YOU OUT OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY. THE FIRST IS THAT RESIDENT BEACH PARKING PASSES SHOULD BE MADE FREE INSTEAD OF THE CURRENT $15 PER PASS THAT IS CURRENTLY CHARGED AND PART OF THAT RECOMMENDATION IS TO KEEP CURRENT LIMIT OF TWO PASSES PER HOUSEHOLD THE SAME AS A PART OF THIS AND WE INCLUDED THIS THE STAFF REPORT AND THE FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS BUT ELIMINATING THE $15 PER PASS FEE WOULD CAUSE THE TOWN TO COLLECT ABOUT $105,000 LESS IN REVENUE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAN IT CURRENTLY RECEIVES. AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO BUILD THAT INTO OUR PROJECTIONS AS WELL PAID PARKING WOULD NOT BE IMPOSED.

CHAPLIN BEACH PARK DURING THE YOUTH RECREATION SEASONS OBVIOUSLY THE EXACT TIMING THAT'S GOING TO FLUCTUATE FROM YEAR TO YEAR BUT WHAT'S STATED IN THE DOCUMENTATION THAT'S BEFORE YOU IS THAT THE TOWN WOULD DIRECTLY WORK WITH THE ISLAND RECREATION ASSOCIATION AS ITS RECREATION SERVICES TO DETERMINE IN ADVANCE WHAT PERIODS OF TIME THIS WOULD APPLY TO AND THEN WE WOULD PREPARE APPROPRIATE SIGNAGE AND NOTIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY WOULD KNOW WHEN PARKING WOULD BE CHARGED AND WHEN PARKING NOT BE CHARGED.

THE COMMITTEE WAS UNABLE TO COME TO A UNIFIED DECISION IN TERMS OF PARKING RATES AND SO WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU TODAY ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE WAS SUGGESTING THE COUNCIL CONSIDER. THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS RANGED ANYWHERE FROM A LOW OF $3 PER HOUR TO A HIGH OF $5 PER HOUR, ALL OF WHICH HAD A CORRESPOND A RECOMMENDED DAILY CAP.

BUT THOSE CAPS ALL TO ALSO CHANGED FROM A LOW OF $15 PER DAY TO A HIGH OF $30 PER DAY.

ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION WAS TO CHARGE FLAT RATE PARKING FEES FOR SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.

AGAIN, A RECOMMENDATION WAS A LOW OF $20 PER DAY A, HIGH OF $25 PER DAY AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER POSSIBLY JUST IMPOSING THE FLAT PARKING RATES DURING THE MONTHS OF JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST ONLY THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT THE PARKS REMAIN OPEN FROM 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M. AND THAT PARKING BE CHARGED WITHIN TIME FRAME FROM 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. THIS WOULD ALLOW RESIDENTS AND VISITORS AND RESIDENTS IF YOU HAVE A PARKING PASS ARE GOING PARK FOR FREE REGARDLESS BUT IF YOU'RE RESIDENT WITHOUT A PASS OR YOU'RE A VISITOR YOU WOULD STILL HAVE HOURS OF THE DAY THAT YOU COULD GO TO THE BEACH WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR PAID PARKING. SO NOT ONLY WOULD THERE BE A SEASONAL APPLICATION TERMS OF THE TIME OF THE YEAR BUT THERE WOULD ALSO BE HOURS DURING EACH THE DAYS EVEN WHEN PARKING IS BEING CHARGED THAT PEOPLE COULD PARK FOR FREE OUTSIDE OF THAT 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. WINDOW. AND THEN LASTLY, IN ORDER TO

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RESPOND TO CONCERNS HAVE BEEN POSED REGARDING THE IMPACTS TO EMPLOYEE PARKING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH IMPOSING PAID PARKING, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT THE TOWN LOOK AT ESTABLISHING A PARK AND RIDE PROGRAM USING TOWN OWNED PROPERTY AND ULTIMATELY THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE TOWN TO CONTRACT THE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES PROVIDER IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THIS REMOTE PARK RIDE OPPORTUNITY. SO THOSE WERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT COMMITTEE AND WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS ESSENTIALLY THOSE SAME QUESTIONS BUT YOU GET TO TAKE UP THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION AND MAKE YOUR OWN DETERMINATIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU SUPPORT IT WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO AMEND IT OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO GO IN DIFFERENT DIRECTION ALTOGETHER.

AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO BUCKET POLICY QUESTIONS BOTH IN TERMS OF THE RESIDENT PARKING PASSES ,ALL OF THE FACTORS IN ESTABLISHING A PARKING RATE. SO LOCATION'S SUMMER, ALL THE HOURS OF OPERATION THE TIME COLLECTION, THE SEASONAL OR YEAR ROUND COLLECTION AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE HOURLY RATE AND ANY CORRESPONDING DAILY MAXIMUM.

AND THEN LASTLY IF YOU DO DECIDE TO IMPOSE IT AT ALL LOCATIONS, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS EMPLOYEE PARKING AND IF SO THERE'S THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED THERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION WE CAN SET ASIDE DEDICATED PARKING SPACES JUST FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING PURPOSES. WE CAN PROVIDE DISCOUNTED MONTHLY PASSES TO QUALIFIED EMPLOYEES AND THEN WE COULD ALSO AS THE COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED, CREATE A REMOTELY AND SHUTTLE SERVICE TO ADDRESS THESE NEEDS SO THAT COVERS BOTH THE ORDINANCE AND THE RESOLUTION AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

OKAY. SO FIRST OF ALL, WE WILL GO TO THE ORDINANCE FIRST AND WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC ON THAT. JUST AS A REMINDER, I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE NEW PUBLIC COMMENT ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN JUNE STATES THAT ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT MUST FILL OUT A FORM PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

KIM HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR THIS DISCUSSION? YES.

HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR EIGHT A AND B WE'RE GOING TO DO FIRST YEAR WRITING FOR PUBLIC JESSICA LEE LUCY GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU.

THE TOWN MANAGER TOWN COUNCIL MAYOR FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY MY NAME IS LEE WAS HERE SEO RESIDENT GROUP LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER AND OVERALL RESIDENT.

WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS A BEACH PARK ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.

THIS DISCUSSION CAPS THE OBVIOUS ISSUES AND CONCERNS MANY RESIDENTS BUSINESS AND VISITORS FOR THE PROPOSED POLICIES CHARGING FOR PARKING IMPACT LOCAL BUSINESSES AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IN MANY WAYS SUCH AS OVERFLOW GUESTS SEEKING A FREE ALTERNATIVE TO PAY PARKING REDUCTION AND ANCILLARY SPENDING AND ADDITIONAL TAXATION TO OUR VALUABLE GAS WHICH SUPPORT OUR ISLAND IMMENSELY.

I WANT TO DISCUSS THE OBVIOUS PORTIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT I KNOW BEEN DISCUSSED IN ONE OF THE MAIN DISCUSSIONS OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS THE PROBABLY CORDOVA'S HOME TO OVER 130 BUSINESSES, 1500 LOCAL EMPLOYEES, NUMEROUS LOCAL BANDS AND A $170 MILLION IN LOCAL SALES REVENUE FOR CONSTITUENTS. IN ADDITION, CAPITAL COLLECTS OVER $1.4 MILLION IN COUNTY GREENSPACE TAX 1.5 MILLION IN LOCAL SALES TAX AND SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF TAX, HOSPITALITY TAX AND LIQUOR SURCHARGE IS JUST A NAME SOME OF THE POP AVENUE INCOME STREAMS TO OUR ISLAND FROM THIS CORRIDOR ARE THE MAIN STREET OF THE ISLAND. WHY IS THE COUNCIL LOOKING AT BEACH PARKING CHARGES? WELL THAT IS A QUESTION THAT I'VE TALKED WITH ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SEVERAL TOWN EMPLOYEES ABOUT AND HERE IS THEIR ANSWER SUMMARY TO THAT QUESTION WE NEED TO HAVE INCOME TO OFFSET THE COST OF PARKING CONSULTANTS.

WE'RE NOT SURE DOES MAKE SENSE AT THIS TIME WITH SO MANY PERTINENT TOWN ISSUES AT HAND.

I DON'T AGREE WITH THE POLICY BUT IT'S COMING. IT'S ALREADY BE PREPARED FOR IT. IT QUICKLY SHOULD BE CARVED OUT QUICKLY BEACH PARKING SHOULD NOT BE PART OF THIS PROGRAM. I NEED TO RESEARCH THE LEGALITY NEED OF PAID PARKING SO WE NEED TO LIMIT OFF ISLAND TRAFFIC SOMEHOW. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL DO IT.

I HAVEN'T TIME TO RESEARCH IT BUT I WILL. HOW ARE WE GOING TO RECOUP THE MONEY WE'VE ALREADY SPENT ON THE PARKING PROGRAM THAT DOESN'T EXIST? I TRULY APPRECIATE HONESTY THESE STATEMENTS BUT THESE ARE ALL JUST STATEMENTS NOT GOOD REASONS TO POSSIBLY JEOPARDIZE THE LIVELIHOODS OF 15 OTHER HUNDRED RESIDENTS AND CLOSING ALSO ASK THE TOWN RESORTS IN CASE OF CIRCLE SQUARE COMPANY VERSUS THE LAST COMPANY A SUPREME COURT OPINION IN REGARDS TO COVENANTS CCR AND COMMERCE IN SOUTH FOREST BEACH TO BE REVIEWED TO ENSURE THE LEGALITY OF PAID PARKING IS BEING DISCUSSED TODAY SINCE THE

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SUPREME COURT HAS SAID THERE CANNOT BE COMMERCE ON SOUTH FOREST BEACH UNLESS IT IS LODGING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISS LUCY X KIM AMY FEE FEE THANK YOU JOSH THANK YOU MR. MAYOR MR. MANAGER AND ALL OF TOWN COUNCIL HI MY NAME IS AMY AND I'M FROM FOREST BEACH THIS IS A SENSITIVE ISSUE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYEES. WHAT IF I NEED A THIRD PASS? WHAT WHAT'S THAT PROCESS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? I THINK IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE AND I'M NOT SURE IF ALL THE DATA AND ALL THE INFORMATION IS AND AT THIS TIME FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A DECISION, I THINK THERE ARE GOING TO BE MANY DOWNSTREAM EFFECTS AND UNFORESEEN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT IMPACT ALL OF US ISLAND AND WIDE OUR BLUFFTON NEIGHBORS I DON'T HAVE SOLUTION TODAY BUT I HOPE TO WORK WITH TOWN FOR ONE.

THANK YOU. I THINK YOU MUST BE YEAH. I JUST RECEIVED COMMENT FORM FROM SKIP HOAGLAND WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. OKAY.

OKAY. WELL, WHAT WE HEARD IS A TYPICAL BUREAUCRATIC LAWYER PRESENTATION UNFORTUNATELY OVERDEVELOPMENT AND TOO MANY TOURISTS HAVE CAUSED THIS THAT SAME BUREAUCRACY RULES AND REGULATIONS WHO THIS TO GO ON THE BEACH WE NEED TO FOLLOW ITALY LEAD AND CHARGE A $10 PER PERSON TOURIST TAX UPON CHECK IN AND CHECK OUT OF OUR ISLAND THERE'LL BE NO LABOR IN THIS AND $10 TIMES 3 MILLION JUST RAISED US $30 MILLION READ ABOUT IT ON GOOGLE AND LOOK WHAT RESORTS ARE DOING. THEY'RE SO INUNDATED NOW THAT THEY'RE AND MAKING THE TOURIST PAY WHY SHOULD 38,000 PEOPLE PAY FOR 3 MILLION PEOPLE INCREASE TAXES CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO PARK TO GO TO THE BEACH I MEAN IT JUST GOES ON AND ON AND IF THESE FOLKS ARE GOING TO COME AND ENJOY THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO PAY WITH THE REST OF US. AND $10 IS NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK .

$10 TIMES 3 MILLION IS I MEAN TOM 3 MILLION TERMS IS $30 MILLION.

WE HEARD FROM BY THE TIME YOU GET THROUGH WITH ALL THE BEACH PATROL AND ALL THE LABOR AND ALL THIS, THE OVERHEAD IS CRAZY. MY PLAN IS RAISE 30 MILLION PAYING AND CHECK IN AND CHECK OUT PUT THE 30 MILLION IN THE BANK ACCOUNT AND START PAYING FOR OUR BIKE PATHS, OUR BEACHES AND OTHER THINGS. WE ALSO NEED TO STAGGER THE CHECKING AND CHECK OUT IT'S EVERYBODY COMING ON SALARY LEBANON WINDMILL HARBOR AND SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM TO BE CAUGHT IN. THIS TRAFFIC EVERY SATURDAY IS A NIGHTMARE. IT'S IT'S NOT TOLERABLE IT'S BEYOND TOLERABLE FOR ANYBODY.

SO WE HAVE TO STAGGER. WE DON'T I DON'T CARE WHAT THE RENTAL COMPANIES SAY.

I DON'T GIVE A HOOT WHAT THE HOTELS SAY. WE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STAGGER AND CHECK IN AND CHECK OUT TO HELP REDUCE THIS TRAFFIC AND THIS MIGHT HAVE AN IMPACT OF US NOT HAVING TO DO THIS SEVEN OR 11 LANE BRIDGE THIS COULD ALSO LOOK AT THE STUDY ON THAT AND SEE HOW THAT THAT MIGHT PLAY IN BY DOING THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE GUYS. IS THERE A MOTION FROM COUNSEL ON A DAY ON WHETHER TO APPROVE THE ADOPTION OF IT ON FIRST READING SO I CAN HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND DISCUSSION. MR. BROWN, I'LL START WITH YOU AND WE THE PAGE WITH THE TRACES BACK OF WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CHOICES JUST YET. THIS IS JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE ALL. RIGHT. LET ME I'M GOING TO PULL UP A COPY OF THE DRAFT PUT UP ON THE SCREEN ACTUALLY YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO LET THE DO THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK IT WOULD BE USEFUL FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE SYSTEM WOULD WORK THE ELECTRONIC SENSORS AND SO AND HOW WE'VE BEEN CALLING THEM PASSES BUT DON'T THINK THEY'LL BE PASSED AS RESIDENTS OF THE FREE USE OF THAT THE TECHNOLOGY NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED I THINK WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT ASKING THAT QUESTION IN A PERFECT WILL. THANK YOU. THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE PULLED UP FOR QUESTIONS. CAN I ANSWER MR.. MY QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ARE REALLY RELATED TO THE RESOLUTION, NOT THE ORDINANCE RESERVE.

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ALL RIGHT. FOR THEM IT'S PRICING. MR..

AND THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION PRESENTATION RIGHT HERE AND TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. IT'S COMPLEX ISSUE IN MANY WAYS ON BUSINESS STANDARD. THE AMENDMENTS TO THE PARKING ORDERS THERE'S NOW ON AND TITLED 12 CHAPTER THREE I THINK IT IS AND THERE ARE SOME CHAPTERS WITHIN THAT SO MY PRIMARY QUESTION IS I THINK A LOT OF RESIDENTS HAVE ABOUT THE LANGUAGE HERE THAT DEFINES RESIDENT AS I UNDERSTAND IT THAT IS THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY USING.

SO THERE'S NO CHANGE IN WHO IS DEFINED AS A RESIDENT WITH THIS AMENDMENT? YES MA'AM. TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTED A RESOLUTION IN 2022 DEFINING AN ISLAND RESIDENT SET FORTH VARIOUS CRITERIA BOTH FOR PROPERTY OWNERSHIP OR FOR RENTALS BUT ESSENTIALLY ESTABLISHING MINIMUM CRITERIA THAT HAVE TO SHOWN IN ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED AN ISLAND RESIDENT. THAT LANGUAGE WAS CARRIED OVER . OKAY. AND THE DIFFERENCE IN TAKING TWO TOGETHER THE ORDINANCE AND THE RESOLUTION IS THAT RESIDENTS INSTEAD OF THERE WILL STILL BE TWO PASSES PER RESIDENT PER HOUSEHOLD BUT. NOW THEY'RE CHARGED $15 PER PASS AND THE NEW PROPOSAL NO COST TOURISM SO THAT'S THE RECOMMENDED THREE PART AS FAR AS RESIDENTS PASSES GO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

AND IN ADDITION, YOU MENTIONED DURING THE PRESENTATION THERE'S A LOT OF ANTIQUATED LANGUAGE SO THAT'S A PRIMARY PURPOSE. THE ORDINANCE ITSELF IS A GREAT OF THAT.

IN THIS FIRST PARAGRAPH IT SAYS PARKING METERS TO BE INSTALLED IN PARKING METER SPACES AGAIN WITH OUR PROGRAM WILL HAVE TEXT TO PAY CAPABILITIES SO WE WON'T HAVE ACTUAL PARKING METERS COIN OPERATED MACHINES. IT'LL BE SOMETHING YOU CAN PULL UP ON YOUR PHONE NOW THERE WILL ALSO BE A KIOSK THERE THAT IF YOU NEEDED TO PAY DIRECTLY WOULD BE THAT AVAILABILITY BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE THE TRADITIONAL METER PER SPACE THAT YOU MAY SEE IN SOME COMMUNITIES WHICH MIGHT HELP TO ADDRESS OF THE QUESTIONS MR. STANFORD WAS ASKING TO BE ADDRESSED AND IT'S UNDERSTANDING THE PARKING METERS THAT WE USE NOW THEY'RE NO LONGER PART ONE THEM SO SO WHAT WE'RE USING IN ADDITION ANTIQUATED LANGUAGE IS ANTIQUATED SYSTEMS THAT IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU BUY A REALLY OLD CAR IT'S HARD TO GET PARTS BELIEVE ME I'VE GOT A 1999 SO AN UPDATES ARE ORDINANCE AND IT'S OUR SYSTEM BUT IT DOES NOT REQUIRE FEES IN THE ORDINANCE. IT PROVIDES AUTHORITY TO CONDUCT FEES IF WE CHOOSE TO DO THIS. THAT IS CORRECT AND IN SPECIFICALLY REFERENCE THAT COUNCIL CAN ESTABLISH THOSE FEES VIA RESOLUTION AND AGAIN THE INTENT OF THAT WAS TO ALLOW FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY THAT IF COUNCIL WANTED TO MAKE CHANGES TO ANY ALL PARTS OF IT THEY COULD DO IT THROUGH A MORE SIMPLE MECHANISM OF A RESOLUTION COMPARED TO AN ORDINANCE BUT IT DOES LIST AREAS WHERE PARKING FEES COULD BE CHARGED. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THEM TO BE CHARGED.

THEY ARE BOARD NOTES IT JUST LISTED. THAT'S CORRECT AND AND THE INTENT BEHIND THAT IS THE TOWN OWNS NUMEROUS PROPERTIES ALL ACROSS THE ISLAND, MANY OF WHICH ARE NOT UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR PAID PARKING. THIS PROGRAM WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON PAID BEACH PARKING AND SO WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY WHICH OF THOSE PROPERTIES WE BELIEVE MET THAT CRITERIA AND THEREFORE LISTED THEM IN THERE. BUT IT THEN GOES ON TO FURTHER STATE THAT PARKING AND IN ANY OR ALL OF THOSE AREAS WOULD BE ESTABLISHED BY A SEPARATE RESOLUTION AND AND IT ALSO PROVIDES FOR EXEMPTIONS SUCH AS FOR SPECIAL PERMANENT EVENTS PARTICULARLY AT A TIME LOWCOUNTRY CELEBRATION PARK WHERE THE SYMPHONY MIGHT BE THERE OR OTHER ARTS AND CRAFTS OR MUSIC FESTIVALS SO THERE IS AN EXEMPTION FOR CHARGING FOR PARKING IN THE ORDINANCE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE TOWN MANAGER FOR THOSE AMOUNTS YES MA'AM I.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT WITH REGARD TO ENFORCEMENT THERE'S ALSO NOW SOME ANTIQUATED LANGUAGE ABOUT WHO AND HOW THE PARKING REGULATIONS ARE ENFORCED AND SO IT UPDATES THOSE ENFORCEMENT REGULATIONS AS WELL. CORRECT.

BACK IN THE DAY YOU WOULD RECEIVE A CITATION AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COURT AND IN THEORY IF YOU DIDN'T PAY THAT CITATION A BENCH WARRANT COULD BE ISSUED FOR YOUR ARREST. THAT IS NOT THE PROGRAM THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AND IN FACT WE'RE KIND OF MODELING IT OUT FOR SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A SIMILAR ADMINISTRATIVE PENALTY. IT'S PRIMARILY ADMINISTERED BY THE PARKING MANAGEMENT COMPANY OR BY THE MUNICIPALITY ITSELF. BUT YOU STILL BUILD IN DUE PROCESS THAT WAY IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THERE'S AN ISSUE IT CAN BE RESOLVED HOPEFULLY WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO A COURT BUT ULTIMATELY IF NECESSARY GO TO A COURT FOR ADJUDICATION AND I'LL TRY TO ASK YOU CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WHERE WE'RE UPDATING AND TAKING OUT AN ANTIQUATED LANGUAGE.

HAVE I MISSED ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW ABOUT THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE? I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE SO. BUT I WOULD JUST SAY GENERALLY

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SPEAKING ANYBODY WHO'S LOOKING AT THE MATERIALS THAT ARE INCLUDED YOUR PACKETS AND THAT ARE POSTED ONLINE WE TRY TO IDENTIFY ANY LANGUAGE WITHIN THE CODE THAT'S GOING TO BE REMOVED. THREE STRIKES THROUGH AND ANY LANGUAGE THAT'S GOING TO BE INCORPORATE IT AS NEW LANGUAGE WITH A DOUBLE UNDERLINE. AND THEN IF YOU SEE OTHER LANGUAGE THAT DOESN'T HAVE EITHER OF THOSE THAN ITS EXISTING LANGUAGE THAT WOULD JUST REMAIN AS CURRENTLY STATED AND THIS BEING PART OF MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRES TWO RATINGS. YES IT DOES. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. JAMES.

I'D LIKE TO THANK REPRESENTATIVE BRYSON FOR ANSWERING AND ADDRESSING ALL OF MY QUESTIONS. YOU'RE WELCOME. NO PUBLIC SPEAKER AND THOSE ARE GREAT EXCLAMATIONS AS WE WERE WALKED THROUGH ALL OF THE POINTS OF CHANGE AND I APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. ALFRED. IN MY MIND YOU'RE FIRST OF ALL ON THE RESOLUTION YOU STATED A NUMBER OF CHOICES THAT COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE.

I THINK ONE OF THE MORE TO ME THE MORE SIGNIFICANT DETERMINE AND THAT COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE IS WHETHER OR NOT TO INCLUDE THE CULINARY THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.

YES. MR. MAYOR, I DON'T WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW OR WHETHER YOU WANT TO GO THE WHOLE DISCUSSION AND COME BACK TO THAT LATER.

BUT I TO ME THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT MATTERS WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH TODAY.

SO JOSH, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU IN-DEPTH EXPLAIN DOES THAT NOT NOT JUST COLLECTING BUT EACH ONE OF THEM WHEN THEY CAN BE OR NOT BE WITHIN THAT AREA? YES, SIR.

SO THE INTENT BEHIND THE SECTION WHEN I SAY THIS SECTION I'M SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO WHAT WOULD BE NEW SECTION 12 DESK 6-112 AND IT SAYS DESIGNATED DESIGNATION OF PAID PARKING AREAS. THE INTENT BEHIND THIS WAS TO IDENTIFY THOSE TOWN OWNED PROPERTIES THAT MAY BE UNDER CONSIDERATION TO HAVE PAID PARKING APPLIED TO THAT PROPERTY. THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF ALL THE TOWN OWNED PROPERTIES. SO WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, JARVIS CREEK AND BARKER FIELD AND A WHOLE HOST OF OTHERS THAT ARE NOT ON HERE BECAUSE. THOSE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION. BUT WHEN WE STARTED THIS FOUR YEARS AGO WE WERE ASKED TO FOCUS ON EACH PARKING SPECIFICALLY AND SO THE SEVEN PROPERTIES THAT YOU SEE LISTED HERE ARE THE SEVEN PROPERTIES THAT WE BELIEVE BEACH PARKING AREAS ON THE ISLAND AND.

SO WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY THOSE JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE PART OF THIS PROGRAM. BUT THIS SENTENCE HERE REALLY SPEAKS TO YOUR CONCERN.

I THINK MR. ALFORD SAYS THE TOWN COUNCIL SHALL DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE RATES FOR THE PAID PARKING BY RESOLUTION AND SO IF YOU WANTED TO EXEMPT THE LIGNE BEACH LOT FROM PAID PARKING YOU WOULD JUST ESSENTIALLY SET THE PARKING AT THAT LOCATION AT $0.

AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THERE. IT'S BUT IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GOING TO BE PAID PARKING AND WHAT THAT DOLLAR VALUE WOULD BE, WE LEAVE THAT TO THE RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER A VERY CLEVER SOLUTION .

THANK YOU. COUNCIL HAS BEEN CONSIDERING THIS NOW FOR FOUR YEARS.

IT'S TIME FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A DECISION IF DECIDE TO IMPLEMENT THIS.

I'VE BEEN DISAPPOINTED IT BEEN ADMINISTERED BEFORE BUT WE'RE NOW DOWN FOR THE NEXT SEASON HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING . I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THE NUTS AND BOLTS ABOUT HOW THIS SYSTEM OPERATES BECAUSE IS NOT YOU GET SIDETRACKED AND YOU GIVE A DESCRIPTION THAT YOU KNOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR PARKING VENDOR HERE WITH US THIS EVENING. IF I COULD I'D CALL UPON MATT TO COME UP AND JUST KIND OF GIVE US A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THEY IMPLEMENT THE CURRENT REGULATIONS AND THEN HOW THEY WOULD GO ABOUT IMPLEMENTING ALL OF THE VARIOUS TECHNOLOGY APPLICATIONS IF THIS GOES EVEN BETTER YOU. OKAY SO WHAT WE DO IS WE INTEND TO APPLY FOR THE RESIDENT PERMITS CAN APPLY ONLINE OR YOU CAN COME TO OUR OFFICE OR YOU CAN MAIL IN THE PERMIT AND THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE STAFF ISLANDERS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND WE HAVE SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT AS CARS ENTER THEY SCAN THE PLATE.

IT'S A LITTLE IT'S BASICALLY A CELL PHONE TO SCAN THE PLATE AND IT SHOWS UP RIGHT AWAY IF THEY HAVE PERMIT. SO THAT'S HOW WE RECOGNIZE IT AT THE OTHER LOCATIONS, OUR CAMERAS OUT THERE OPERATING CORRECTLY NOW AND THEY READ IT AS WELL.

IT'S A PERMANENT HOME OR NOT SO WE CAN GO TO ENFORCEMENT. WE WOULD KNOW RIGHT AWAY IF SOMEONE A LOT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A MICROPHONE I'M SORRY. SO WHEN WE GO TO ENFORCE IF WE DO GO TO THE SYSTEM AND WE GO TO ENFORCEMENT AS THEY ENTER LAB WE WOULD KNOW RIGHT AWAY IF THEIR HAVE A PERMIT OR NOT IF SAY FOR EXAMPLE SOMEONE DOES INTERRUPT DOES NOT HAVE A PERMIT IT WOULD HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME ABOUT 10 MINUTES PROBABLY TO MAKE A PAYMENT IF IF AFTER THE 10 MINUTES THEY DON'T MAKE A PAYMENT WE WOULD GET AN ALERT THAT THIS WITH

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LICENSE PLATE YOU KNOW ABC 123 IS THAT COULD NEED TO NOT PAY ANY GOING TICKETED AND AT ISLANDERS THE REASON WE STAFF THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR RESIDENT SPACES ARE PROTECTED FOR THE RESIDENTS AS SOMEONE COMES IN IF THEY'RE NOT A PERMIT HOLDER WE DIRECT THEM TO THE METERS RIGHT AWAY THE TECHNOLOGY FOR PAYING THE METERS AS WE GO FORWARD WE WOULD IMPLEMENT A TEXT TWO PART PAYMENT OPTION SO BASICALLY THEY WOULD HAVE A QR CODE THEY COULD SCAN OR THEY WOULD TEXT, EACH SITE WOULD HAVE ITS OWN CODE SO AS THEY ENTER RIGHT SO FOR EXAMPLE SERIAL ISLANDERS PAY ACCORDINGLY FOR EXAMPLE THEY WOULD TEXT THAT CODE TO A CERTAIN NUMBER AND THEN THEY WOULD GET A TEXT BACK AND THEN THAT TEXT BACK WOULD BE A LINK THAT WOULD BRING THEM DIRECTLY TO WHERE THEY WOULD PAY AND THEY JUST THEIR CREDIT CARD ENTER HOW MUCH HOW MANY DOLLARS THEY WANT TO PAY FOR AND THEN THEY WOULD PAY IT AND WITH THE SYSTEM TO WHERE THEY WERE GIVEN AN ALERT ABOUT 15 MINUTES BEFORE THEIR PARKING TIME IS SET TO EXPIRE TO OFFER THEM TO YOU KNOW, DO AN ADMIRABLE TIME SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO RUN AND PAY. THEY CAN DO IT RIGHT FROM THE BEACH.

OKAY. SO IF I AM A RESIDENT IN GEORGIA AND I WANT TO GO TO THE BEACH OUT TO PAY FOR THE PARKING THERE BE THERE'LL BE SIGNS THERE'LL BE SIGNS STRUCK A LOT THERE WILL HAVE A QR CODE OR IN THAT CODE OF THAT LAW TO TEXT TO GET THE PAYMENT IF YOU SCAN THE QR CODE TO IMMEDIATELY BE BROUGHT DIRECTLY TO THE PAGE TO PAY ONCE IT'S SENT A TEXT YOU'LL GET THE TEXT BACK JUST CLICK ON LINK IN THE TEXT AND BRING IT DIRECTLY TO THE PAGE TO PAY SO I HAVE TO DISCLOSE MY EGG NUMBER OR I HAVE AND I HAVE TO USE AN APP IN ORDER TO GET THAT PARKING. YEAH IT'S TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT AN APP IT'S JUST A TO GET IT IT'S NOTHING YOU HAVE TO DOWNLOAD TO YOUR PHONE AND JUST BE A TEXT YOU GET AND THEN YOU ENTER YOUR PLATE NUMBER AND YOUR CREDIT CARD INFORMATION AND I WOULD JUST THEN YOU DETERMINE HOW LONG YOU WANT TO PAY FOR AND IF I DON'T DO THAT AND I PARK THERE WHAT HAPPENS THEN WE WOULD GET ALERTED THAT A CARD, A CAR PARKED DID NOT PAY AND THEN WE WOULD GO ENFORCE THE TICKET SO ENFORCEMENT WOULD MEAN WHAT THE CITATION WOULD BE ISSUED FOR PAYMENT AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE FEES ARE ESTABLISHED EVERY YOU SEE THAT THIS SYSTEM THIS TYPE OF SYSTEM HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED BY YOUR COMPANY AND OTHER SIMILAR COMMUNITIES IS THAT CORRECT? YES THAT'S CORRECT. CURRENTLY THE CLOSEST ONES WE OPERATE IN OUR CITY PROBABLY BEACH AND ISLAND PROBLEMS SO AND THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THAT COMMUNITY. YES, IT HAS. WE STARTED IN IOWA PALMS THIS PAST MARCH AND WE IN PROBABLY ITS LAST YEAR IN MAY AND IS THE ISLE OF ARMS IN THE OTHER COMMUNITY HAVE EXEMPTIONS FOR RESIDENTS YES THEY DO IT'S SIMILAR TO HERE THEY HAVE TO PROVE RESIDENCY THEN THERE THEIR PAYMENTS ARE PUT IN THE SYSTEM SO IT KNOWS RIGHT AWAY THAT IT'S THANK YOU YOUR YES I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING FOR MYSELF AND FOR ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE ALL THE DATA THAT'S COLLECTED IS NOT STORED THE TOWN DOES NOT STORE THAT INFORMATION NEITHER DOES TCI. CORRECT GRADES STORED FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME I BELIEVE AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT. SO IT IS NOT PERSONALLY IDENTIFYING INFORMATION SO WE'LL KNOW THE STATE THAT THE PLATE COMES FROM BUT WE WON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE PERSON WHOSE PLATE THAT IS REGISTERED TO AND THAT WAS SOMETHING WE SET UP AT THE OUTSET OF THE CONTRACT WITH PCI. CORRECT HAS BEEN ONE OF MY CONCERNS FROM THE BEGINNING JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS AWARE THAT THIS IS IN THE DATA COLLECTION PROCESS AND AND RETENTION ALL OKAY THANK YOU AND THE INSTALLATIONS YOU HAVE IN THE CHARLESTON AND THE PALMS AND SO FORTH ARE THERE COMMERCIAL AREAS NEAR THOSE BEACH AREAS THAT ARE IMPACTED AT ALL? THERE? YEAH THERE ARE BUSINESSES THEY HAVE A MAIN STREET THAT WE DO PROSTITUTION THE MAIN ACCESS BEACH AND THERE'S STORES ON BOTH SIDES RESTAURANTS, BARS, SOUVENIR ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND. HOW THOSE THOSE ARE ENFORCED YEAH I'M SORRY THOSE ARE PAID TO PARK AND THEY ARE ENFORCED DAILY AND PUBLIC CLASSROOMS WITH PRIVATE LOTS OF HER WELL OKAY I'M SORRY SO FOR BOTH OF THOSE AREAS THIS IS ON STREET PARKING THIS IS NOT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY BUT THERE IS ON STREET PUBLIC PARKING WHICH IS PAY TO PARK AND SO TO CLARIFY THAT'S WHAT'S ENFORCED IN TERMS OF THE PARKING. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

I SEE THAT AS AN QUESTIONS MR. GRUBER MENTIONED THAT THE TECHNOLOGY WILL HAVE THE ABILITY US TO SORT OF FOREWARN THOSE THAT MAY BE THINKING ABOUT VISITING OUR BEACHES.

CAN YOU TALK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT AS TO HOW THAT TECHNOLOGY WORKS YEAH WE HAVE IT'S A PARTNER OF OURS THAT WE CONTRACTED WITH THAT FOR SO IT SHOWS THE OCCUPANCY OF A LOT SO IT'S IT'S A WEBSITE IT'S BASED ON A WEBSITE YOU PLUG THE WEBSITE AND SHOW YOU FOR EXAMPLE SAY YOUR PLANNING GO TO CLAIM YOU AND SHOW THE YOU KNOW IT'S 85% FALSE YOU KNOW THERE'S

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ABOUT 15% OCCUPANCY AND IT'S IT WOULD BE AT ALL OF THE LISTED ABOVE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ALL THE LANE. SO EVERY EVERY ONE OF THOSE SIX LOCATIONS YOU PULL IT UP ON YOUR PHONE AND SEE HOW MANY SPACES ARE AVAILABLE EACH LOTS. SO THERE WOULD BE SORT OF AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS CORRECT TO THROUGH SO THAT OUR VISITORS WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WE NOW HAVE THIS AVAILABLE. OKAY. AND A FOLLOW UP TO COUNCILMAN ALFRED'S QUESTION ABOUT FAMILY BEACH. CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION AS TO HOW THAT IS GOING TO EXPERIENCE THE AMOUNT OF ALLERGENS? DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH US ON THAT? I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC NUMBERS BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE BASICALLY THEY'RE THE TOWN IS THE CONTRACTORS ARE IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY SO WE DO HAVE STATS AS FAR AS HOW MANY CITATIONS ARE ISSUED AND THE CITATION NUMBER AS WELL AS THE PAYMENT NUMBERS. SO BEFORE IN BOTH LOCATION OUR PALMS AND PROBABLY BEACH POLICE ENFORCING IT AND SO NOW THAT WE'VE TAKEN OVER THE THE CITATION NUMBER HAS GONE UP AS WELL AS THE PAYMENT NUMBERS AND IS THAT IN TURN WE DO HAVE TO GO UP AS FAR AS STAFF AND THAT SORT OF THING? NO, THEY MAINTAIN THE SAME STAFF LEVELS THE WHOLE TIME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU OUTSIDE OF THE GREAT I'VE ALREADY BEEN ASKED THE AVERAGE PARKING SESSIONS YOU CALCULATED THREE AND A HALF HOURS AGAIN HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THAT IS BASED OBSERVED DATA BUT AGAIN IT'S GOING TO FLUCTUATE CAN YOU EXPLAIN DATA? SO THAT'S REALLY KIND OF UNDERSTANDING WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO THE LOT HOW LONG THEY STAY AND WHEN THEY SO WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF OUR BUSIER PARKING LOTS THEY'RE TYPICALLY FULL BY ABOUT 10:00 IN THE MORNING THEY START FILLING OUR OPENING BACK UP ABOUT 2:00, 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON. SO AGAIN ABOUT THREE AND THERE'S NOT AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT WE COULD DOWNLOAD TO SHOW THE CAR.

THEY STAYED THERE FOR A WEEK AND THEN AFTER THAT IT'S IT'S IT'S PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'VE ACQUIRED PROPERTIES IN ACQUIRING SOME PROPERTIES THEY'RE NOT LISTED HERE ARE THEY PART OF THIS. SO THEY COULD BE AND THE ONE THAT I WOULD SAY WE COULD INCORPORATE IF COUNCIL WANTED TO WOULD BE THE FORMER WILD WING PROPERTY BECAUSE WE HAVE CLOSED ON THAT PROPERTY THE OTHER ONE AT THIS POINT I WOULDN'T JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T CLOSED ON IT SO WE DON'T IT IF NEEDED WE COULD COME BACK IN SECOND READING AND REVISE INTO ADDED IF WE'VE CLOSED BY THAT POINT IN TIME OR AT SOME POINT IN TIME IN THE FUTURE COME BACK. I WILL ALSO SAY THOUGH THAT PART OF IT ALSO KIND OF DETERMINE OR DEPENDS UPON SOME OF THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE DEPENDING UPON IF WE IMPOSE PARKING OR NOT WE OR MAY NOT NEED TO INCORPORATE THAT IN A CERTAIN WAY. RIGHT.

RIGHT. OKAY THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR NOW.

ONE MORE. MR. MAYOR. I THINK IT'S CONFUSING TO SHOW OUR BEACH PARK IN THIS LIST OF SAY PARKING. MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE FOOTNOTE NO EXCEPT RESIDENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I FOOTNOTE IN IN MY PRESENTATION BUT THE REASON WHY I THINK IT'S STILL IMPORTANT TO KEEP HERE IS FOR THE FACT THAT THERE ARE 25 PUBLIC PARKING SPACES WITHIN ISLANDERS BEACH PARK THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS. AND SO ANY RATE THAT YOU ESTABLISH SHOULD APPLY TO THOSE 25 SPACES AS WELL WHICH IS WHY IT'S ON THIS LIST. I STILL THINK IT'S CONFUSING.

RESIDENTS WILL BE CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE NOT SORT OF PAID NOW AND WE CAN TRY TO MAYBE THAT A LITTLE BIT BUT I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT IF YOU'RE AN ISLAND WHO HAS A STICKER AND YOU PARK IN THE METERED SPACE YOU CAN THERE FOR FREE AND AGAIN IT'S A FIRST COME FIRST SERVED BASIS AND ONCE THEY'RE ALL FILLED UP THE ATTENDANTS WHO ARE THERE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK WILL ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE RESIDENT PASSES AREN'T ADDING TO THE CONGESTION OF THE TRAFFIC IN THAT BAR. THANK YOU. OKAY SO IF I CAN JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION WITH THAT CHANGE WITH YOUR ANALYSIS THAT CHANGE AT ALL ONCE WOLVES PAID METERED SPACES THAT ISLANDERS ARE REMOVED FROM WITHIN THE BEACH PARK TO THE PRIOR TO ATTEND UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT A NEW PARK WHICH I DON'T THINK WE WOULD WANT TO DO JUST BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE CONFUSING I THINK IT WOULD NEED TO REMAIN ON HERE AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE. BUT AGAIN IN TERMS OF SETTING A RATE FOR IT, WE CAN THAT BY THE RESOLUTION BUT I THINK IT'S IF IT'S INSIDE OR OUTSIDE I THINK I THINK IT'S STILL GOING TO BE PERCEIVED AS PART OF ISLANDERS BEACH PARK THANK YOU. I MEAN THERE'S A POSSIBILITY FOR ISLANDERS BEACH PARK WITH DIFFERENT PRINCESS ONLY 25 DESIGNATED NON RESIDENT SPACES

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SOMETHING LIKE THAT YOU WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION OKAY SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY MS. BRYCE IN THE SECOND MS.. BECKER TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON AROUND SOUTH CAROLINA AMENDING TITLE 12 CHAPTER THREE OF THE MUSCLE CODE ENTITLED MOTOR VEHICLES TRAFFIC CONTROL PARKING TO REVISED REGULATIONS RELATED TO PAID PARKING AND OTHER MATTER FOR WAY THAT THERE ARE TWO AND PROVIDE SEVERAL ABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE FIRST READING IS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO NOW WE WANT TO

[8.b. Consideration of a Resolution Adopting a Beach Parking Fee Schedule - Josh Gruber, Deputy Town Manager]

EIGHT BE CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING A BEACH PARKING SCHEDULE THE COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMITTEE WE WENT THROUGH ALL THAT KIM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR 8PI HAVE FOUR PEOPLE. SKIP HOAGLAND I'M GOING PASS THREE PASSES.

CHERYL KEPPEL IS GLOBAL SO EVERYONE MY NAME IS CHERYL KLIPPEL.

I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF HILTON HEAD FOR 34 YEARS. I'M ALSO A BUSINESS OWNER HAVE THREE BUSINESSES ON HOPE AVENUE. ONE WANTS TO SEE CAFE THE SECOND ONE PELICANS POUCH AND THEN ISLAND GIRL WHICH IS LOCATED IN ALLEGANY.

MY CONCERN IS WELL BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME IN MY BUSINESS, MY LIVELIHOOD, THE CLEANING, PARKING I FEEL THAT IMPOSING PARKING FEE PEOPLE ARE FIRST ARE GOING TO TRY TO LOOK FOR FREE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKING UP SPACES AND GOING TO THE BEACH AND NOT SHOPPING IN THE STORES BECAUSE THERE'S NO PARKING AVAILABLE TO THEM. WELL TO SEE CAFES ACTUALLY RIGHT NEXT TO ENCHILADAS AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON CLOSING THAT PROPERTY SO THAT ALSO A CONSIDERATION IF THAT BECOMES PAID PARKING THEN ARE GOING TO COME TO MY PARKING LOTS FOR FREE PARKING I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO HAVE STAY IN MY PARKING LOT TO MONITOR SO I THINK GOING TO ADVERSELY AFFECT MY BUSINESSES YOU HAVE THE WORD FREE PARKING FOR RESIDENTS. WELL THAT SOUNDS GREAT RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD BUT GUESS WHAT BECAUSE OF LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING MY AREN'T RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD THEY COME FROM BEAUFORT THEY COME FROM THEY COME FROM RICHLAND AND YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM A PASS A REDUCTION FEE FOR PARKING BUT WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT? I AM BECAUSE I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO MAKE MY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE IT WORK ON HILTON HEAD TO PAY A PARKING FEE. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS JUST THINK ABOUT THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS REVENUE IS. IT IT'S GOING TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT I FEEL FRIGHTENING FOR ME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR..

NEXT KIM EMILY YES. LEANNE LUCIER SURE IT'S GREAT TO BE ABLE SPEAK TWICE ANSWERS TO TOPICS ON THIS SO I BRING UP SOME QUESTIONS THAT ARE BROUGHT UP THANKFULLY BY YOU AND I THINK STILL ANSWER OF THE MUNICIPALITIES OR TALK THE PIECE AND JOSH AS FAR AS PAID BEACH PARKING WHICH ONES ACTUALLY HAVE A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT NEXT TO THEIR PARKING I'VE WORKED ON MAP SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE I CAN'T FIND ANY SO I THINK USING A MODEL OR COMPARISON IS FLAWED. THAT'S ONE TO SEE THE RATES ACHIEVE THE GOAL IS THE GOAL AGAIN I THINK THE REAL GOAL IS JUST FOR TOURISM SO TRAFFIC RATES ARE GOING TO DO IT.

YOU CAN'T CHANGE BEHAVIOR BY CHANGING DOLLAR AGAIN. I THINK IT'S A FLAWED BUDGET OR AS PRESENTED TO YOU AND YOU WRITE THE BUDGET AGAIN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET APPROXIMATELY $1,000,000 AFTER YOU DO EXPENSES BUT THEN YOU HAVE TAKE ON A $100,000 REVENUE A YEAR FROM PASSES. THEN YOU HOPE YOU SAW THE NUMBERS AND THEN ALSO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HANG OUT WITH 60,000 PASSES OF COMMUNITY RESOURCE IT COST TO HAND OUT 60,000 PASSES IN RESIDENT IT'S NOT GOING TO FREE SOME OF THESE AFTER ON THAT AND THEN LASTLY HOW DO VEHICLE VEHICLES WORK WHO COLLECTS THE TICKETS PCI FLEX TWO TICKETS WHAT'S THE MARGIN OF TO COLLECT THESE TICKETS HOW MUCH MONEY DO THEY GET FROM THE FINES? HOW MANY FINES OF THE RENT FROM FOLLY BEACH THIS YEAR? 7000 NUMBER I WAS TOLD.

OR IS THAT MONEY GO TO PCI IT GOES TO THE TOWN DOES IT GO TO THE COFFER? THE BUDGET BACK TO THEM. THANK YOU. ACTUALLY NEXT AMY FEE HI SO I

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JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UPS FROM THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THE CITATIONS ARE ISSUED TO THE VEHICLE IN THIS CASE. OKAY.

AND THEN SO WHAT HAPPENS IF I TAKE THAT TICKET AND I JUST THROW IT AWAY AND IGNORE IT OR WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM AND STOP SOMEONE FROM REGISTERING THEIR VEHICLE FURTHER. SO THAT'S A QUESTION AND THEN OVERFLOW PARKING THIS BUSINESS OWNERS POINT THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR FREE PARKING.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN PARKING AND SHOP SPACES. THEY'RE GOING TO BE PARKING IN CHURCH PARKING LOTS ARE GOING TO BE PARKING IN NEIGHBORHOODS .

WHAT IS THAT KIND OF ENFORCEMENT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? ARE WE GOING TO TELL ARE WE GOING TO TICKET? WHAT'S THAT IMPLICATION? WHAT ARE THOSE COSTS? AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF SIGNAGE IN THE AREA ABOUT NO PARKING. SO I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION THERE.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, HEATHER. ROUGH GOOD AFTERNOON.

HEATHER ROUTH THE RECORD HILTON HEAD ISLAND RESIDENT I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF LESLIE JERRY RICHARDSON AND THE OVER 60 COLLECTIVE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE ALSO RESIDENTS OF OUR ISLAND. I'M STRONGLY TO MOVING THIS FORWARD FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS NUMBER ONE LACK OF 2024 DATA IT'S ALARMING THAT WE ARE SUCH A SIGNIFICANT DECISION WITHOUT CONSIDERING 2024 NUMBERS WITH MARKET CONDITIONS CONSTANTLY SHIFTING WE CURRENT REAL TIME DATA TO GUIDE THESE POLICIES TO OR THREE WILL SOON HAVE A NEW REPRESENTATIVE WHO LIVES IN THE COLONY DISTRICT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN DECADES. IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT THEY HAVE A VOICE AND A VOTE ON THIS ISSUE . THREE FISCAL IMPACT EVERY LAW IN COLUMBIA AND EVERY ORDINANCE AND COUNTY REQUIRES A FISCAL IMPACT REPORT BASED OFF SALES TAX REVENUE GIVEN THAT CALIFORNIA'S THE LARGEST COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND THE LARGEST SALES TAX BASE ON HEAD ISLAND COUNCIL COULD AND SHOULD DIRECT THE TOWN'S REVENUE TO ISSUE A DETAILED REPORT REGARDING THE SALES TAX IMPACT FROM POLYGAMY ON OUR STATE, COUNTY AND LOCAL BUDGETS BEFORE ANY DECISIONS ARE MADE FORTH CONSULTANTS AND COSTS PAID PARKING SEEMS TO BE DRIVEN BY CONSULTANTS NOT NECESSITY THE COLLIGNON BEACH PARKING LOT HAS BEEN FOR FEWER THAN 30 DAYS THIS YEAR. LAST WEEKEND WATCHED AS THREE PARKING ATTENDANT STOOD IN FRONT OF COLONY BEACH WITH LESS THAN 100 CARS IN THE PARKING LOT. PLEASE MAKE THIS MAKE SENSE FIVE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP EXPANDING OUR TRANSPORTATION AND PEOPLE MOVING SYSTEMS TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS COULD HELP ALLEVIATE PARKING ISSUES WITHOUT BURDENING RESIDENTS OR BUSINESSES AS AN INITIAL STAKEHOLDER IN THE TROLLEY SERVICE I CAN TELL YOU THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS SUCH AS POVERTY BAY MARINA, BROAD CREEK LAND IN OAKFIELD JONES VILLAGE, JARVIS CREEK CLUB, OCEAN COVE CAUDILLO AND YAKOV. THIS WOULD REDUCE CONGESTION AND ADD A RESIDENTIAL AMENITY OUR ISLAND RESIDENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO TRUST AND USE THESE SERVICES THAN OUR VISITORS. THERE ARE ALSO COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AROUND DIGITAL WAYFINDING DURING OUR PEAK OF JUNE AND JULY.

SPEAKING OF JUNE AND JULY THIS IS MY NEXT POINT. SUMMER'S OVER.

AUGUST IS NO LONGER A SUMMER MONTH DUE TO GEORGIA NORTH CAROLINA SOUTH CAROLINA SCHOOL START DEADLINES PLEASE KNOW THE EFFECTS OF CHANGES FROM OUR FEEDER MARKETS AND THEIR SCHOOL START DATES ON OUR LOCAL ECONOMY AND LAST TIME HURDLE WE NEED TO LOOK BACK AND UNDERSTAND WHY PAID PARKING DIDN'T WORK BEFORE AND WHY WE CHANGED IT.

COUNCILMAN JOHN SERVAIS WHO WAS MY MENTOR LISTENED FEEDBACK FROM STAKEHOLDERS PRIMARILY RESIDENTS WHO STRONGLY OBJECTED PAID PARKING SEEING IT AS AN UNNECESSARY LAYER OF REGULATION BUREAUCRACY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE COME? NO, SIR. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO I'M GOING TO TAKE MOMENT HERE AND TALK ABOUT SOME SUGGESTIONS. THIS IS WHAT I SUPPORT OUR RESIDENT BEACH PARKING VOUCHERS TO BE FREE AND REMAIN LIMITED TO TWO PER HOUSEHOLD. IT'S GOOD FOR ISLAND RESIDENTS TO GET A RATE AT $3 PER HOUR WHICH WOULD KEEP THE TOWN COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER COASTAL COMMUNITIES. ESTABLISH A MAXIMUM DAILY RATE OF $15 PER DAY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FLAT RATE $20 PER DAY PER VEHICLE. SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.

APPLY SEASONAL BEACH PARKING FROM MAY 1ST UNTIL SEPTEMBER 7TH JUST AFTER LABOR DAY.

PARK THE BUSIEST TIMES ADOPT STANDARDIZED OPERATING HOURS FOR ALL BEACH PARKS FROM 6 TO 10. LIMIT PARKING HOURS TO BEING FROM 7 A.M. TO 5 P.M. WHICH

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WILL ALLOW FOR DAILY OPPORTUNITIES. TAPLIN REMAIN EXEMPT PAID BEACH PARKING FEES DURING ALL YOUTH SPORTS THIS PROGRAM UTILIZED CORRECTLY WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A MUNICIPAL COURT AND TO CREATE ENFORCEMENT.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ENFORCEMENT OPPORTUNITY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

WE HAVE BEACH RENOURISHMENT. THAT IS COMING UP NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE NUMBERS THAT DOWN YEAR OVER YEAR FROM THE PAST TWO YEARS. REVENUES ARE DOWN.

WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT WE PUT INTO PLACE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE NOT HURTING LOCAL BUSINESSES. THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF CREATING A PARKING IN THE POPE AVENUE AREA COULD BE VERY DETRIMENTAL TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, I ASK THE QUESTION OBSERVES DATA THAT'S NOT SCIENTIFIC. THIS IS A RESOLUTION.

SO THAT MEANS WE CAN COME BACK AND CHANGE IT AFTER A YEAR IF IT'S NOT WORKING.

WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE THE DATA IN PLACE TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION. WE DO NOT HAVE THE DATA IN PLACE RIGHT NOW TO THE PUTTING PAID PARKING EXCEPT FOR WHAT HAPPENED YEARS AGO WHEN THE PARKING WAS THERE WHICH WAS A FAILURE. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE GOOD DATA CURRENT DATA TO TELL US THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO. SO I THAT HOPE AVENUE AREA IS NO CHARGE $3 AN HOUR IN OTHER OTHER LOCATIONS WITH A 15 OR $20 MAX A DAY.

I THINK THAT IS GETS US THROUGH A BEACH RENOURISHMENT. I WOULD AS THEY'RE GOING TO CLEANING ALL THAT AREA THEY MAY NOT GO BECAUSE OF BEACH RENOURISHMENT AND IF THERE IS PAID PARKING IN THAT AREA IT MAY DETER THEM EVEN MORE FROM GOING DOWN.

THAT KILLS OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. BUT WE HAVE TO THINK WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR AND IT IT'S THE RESIDENTS AND OUR RESIDENTS HAVE BUSINESSES THERE AND THEY WORK THERE. THEY'RE NOT ALL COMING IN FROM FROM HARTSVILLE RIDGELAND BUT A LOT OF THEM WERE THERE. IT IS A HIGH ECONOMIC IMPACT AREA.

LET'S NOT LET ALL THE HORSES OUT OF THE GATE AT ONCE. LET'S LET THEM START TO JOG A LITTLE BIT ONE AT A TIME, SEE WHAT WORKS BUT NOT LET THEM ALL OUT AND TRY TO CORRAL THEM BACK IN. LET'S TAKE A SMART APPROACH THIS SO THIS IS THEIR EMOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION. WE'LL GO WITH THE RESOLUTION SETTING FORTH THE FOLLOWING ELEMENTS WITHIN EACH PARKING PROGRAM.

THIS BEACH PARKING PASS WILL BE FREE AND WILL REMAIN LIMITED TO TWO PER HOUSEHOLD.

THE TOWN WILL CHARGE A RATE OF $3 PER HOUR AT ALL BEACH PARKING WITH THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE A MAXIMUM DAILY RATE OPTION OF $15 PER DAY. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND IMPOSE A FLAT RATE OF $20 PER DAY PER VEHICLE ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.

THE TOWN WILL COLLECT BEACH PARKING FEES SEASONALLY FROM MARCH 1ST UNTIL SEPTEMBER SEVEN. OPERATING HOURS FOR ALL TOWN BEACH PARKS WILL BE FROM 6 A.M.

TO 10 P.M.. YEAR ROUND THE TOWN WILL COLLECT BEACH PARKING FEES FROM 7 A.M. TO 5 P.M. CAMPING PARK WILL REMAIN EXEMPT FROM THESE PARKING FEES DURING ALL YOUTH RECREATIONAL SPORTS SEASONS. BEACH PARKING AREAS WITHIN THE POPE AVENUE BUSINESS DISTRICT WILL REMAIN FREE OF CHARGE BUT WE ARE SUBJECT TO BE REVIEWED AND REVISED AT A LATER DATE THROUGH A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION PART B UNDER SECTION TWO OF THE DRAFT REFERS TO EXCLUDING JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST. I GATHER YOUR MOTION MAN PLUS JUNE, JULY, AUGUST IN EFFECT EXCLUDED BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE MASTERS I'VE GOT AND IT INCLUDES MAY, JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST. YES, SIR. YES.

SO MR. ALFORD, ONE ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF THE COMMITTEE WAS TO HAVE A FLAT RATE ON ALL SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS DURING THE SEASONAL. THERE WAS ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION TO ONLY HAVE A FLAT RATE SOLELY FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST.

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BUT I BELIEVE THE MOTION IS HAVE IT ON ANY SATURDAY AND SUNDAY DURING THAT SEASONAL COLLECTION PERIOD FROM MARCH TO SEPTEMBER. DISCUSSION MR. BROWN IS THIS GROUP A I'M GOING BACK TO THE MAYOR'S COMMENT ON OBSERVED DATA IF IF WE'RE NOT CHARGING IN THE HOPE AREA THE TECHNOLOGY IS STILL THERE SO WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO COLLECT DATA AS FAR AS HOW MANY AND OUTS TIME WILL STAY AND SO ON. YES SIR.

WE WILL HAVE THAT AND WE ARE BEGINNING TO COLLECT THAT DATA. I KNOW PCI SOME OF IT.

IT IS NOT A COMPLETE YEAR ROUND PICTURE AT THIS POINT BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE STARTING TO MONITOR IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF VEHICLES AND NUMBER OF VEHICLES OUT AND THEN ALIGNING THAT THE DAYS THE WEEK MONTHS OF THE YEAR OR SO SINCE THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME AS A FULL COUNCIL HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. I APPRECIATE THAT WE'VE HAD IT AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL FOR A LONG TIME. SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE NO ONE THAT THAT DOES NOT THAT'S A TRUE INKLING AT THE MOMENT SO WE WON'T BE GETTING BETTER AT THAT WITH THIS PROGRAM ONLY START TO REALLY LOOK AT THE BUSINESS AREA DOWN THERE AND THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED ALREADY WE'VE HAD ALREADY ONE FALSE START WITH THIS EFFORT YEARS AGO BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WITH THE MAIN EMPLOYEES GO IN THAT AREA ON A DAILY BASIS AND THEM NOT HAVING ANY OPPORTUNITIES BESIDE TO WITHIN BUSINESS PARKING OR PUBLIC PARKING LOTS. UM I FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE NEED TO BE MOVING IN A DIRECTION TO MOVE PEOPLE AROUND OUTSIDE OF BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR.

I APPRECIATE THAT WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT SOME OF THE CURRENT EXPENSES AROUND OUR BEACH BUT I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE HEAVILY.

OBVIOUSLY WE WITH SORT OF A STACCATO INTO OAK PARKING AND UCB AND THAT SORT BUT I THINK PARKING RIGHTS OR SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT VERY SERIOUSLY AND JUST MOVING PEOPLE AROUND FROM A WORK STANDPOINT ON HILTON HEAD IS IMPORTANT AS WELL SO I CAN SEE THIS OVER TIME ONCE WE HAVE MORE DATA IN HIM BUT AGREE WITH THE MAYOR WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE DATA TO TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. I'M JUST AT THIS POINT PLANTING SEEDS. ALL RIGHT. AND AS FAR AS THE INFORMATION FLOW IS CONCERNED, OBVIOUSLY PCI IS OUR VENDOR BUT I WANT TO BE CERTAIN THAT WE RECEIVING ALL OF THE INFORMATION AND NOT JUST THE CARS IN AND OUT. I THINK THE APPEALS PIECE IS IMPORTANT ABOUT LEASING PIECE IS IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO SET FORTH THIS ATMOSPHERE FOR OUR VISITORS AS THEY COME INTO HILTON HEAD AND WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BE A COMPLETE BOX AND THAT'S NOT HILTON HEAD. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE ENJOYING THEMSELVES AS THEY HERE. OBVIOUSLY WE WANT THEM TO FOLLOW THE RULES. IF THEY DON'T WE WILL DEFINITELY ACT ACCORDINGLY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE NEED TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING AS TO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE YOU KNOW, FROM A PERFORMANCE STANDPOINT ALSO FROM BRANDING STANDPOINT.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS AND I'M GOOD DOWN HERE. I THANK YOU, MAYOR. OH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTRODUCTION AND COMMENTS. IT DOES SEEM TO ME IF I RECALL BACK ALMOST A YEAR AGO THOSE ARE THE EXACT SAME ONES I MADE THAT WE PROCEED WITH THE PROGRAM AND.

WE EXEMPT THE COLLECTING AREA SO THAT WE COULD COLLECT THE THAT WAS NOT AGREEABLE TO THIS COUNCIL OR AT LEAST THE COMMITTEE COMING OUT. SO IT DOES A YEAR MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF HOW THINGS ARE VIEWED BUT HAD WE LISTENED TO THE SUGGESTIONS A YEAR WE WOULD BE IN A BETTER POSITION TODAY JUST TO COMMENT AND OF MY OWN QUESTION FOR WHAT IS IS I KEEP HEARING ALL SEASONAL SPORTS IS THAT DIFFERENT THAT WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WRITTEN INTO THE RESOLUTION I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS I MEAN ULTIMATELY IT'S GENERALLY SPEAKING FROM MEMORIAL DAY TO LABOR DAY BUT NOT SPECIFIC TO THOSE TWO HOLIDAYS IT'S JUST A GENERAL TIMEFRAME THE HOTTEST TIMES OF THE YEAR ARE THE TIMES THAT THEY'RE NOT OFFERING YOUTH SPORTS. SO WHAT IS LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION OR? MAYBE THE ORDINANCE I CAN'T REMEMBER BUT WHEREVER IT'S LISTED IT SPECIFICALLY REFERENCES THE TOWN WILL COORDINATE THAT SCHEDULE WITH THE ISLAND RECREATION ASSOCIATION, THEN PUBLISH THAT INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC IN

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ADVANCE. THANK YOU. IN OTHER OBSERVATION WHEN WE CONTINUE TO HEAR REVENUE BEING DOWN OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS I THINK IT WAS A FALSE EXPECTATION FOR ANYONE TO HAVE THOUGHT THAT THE COVID YEARS WERE GOING BE THE NEW STANDARD AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE THE REVENUE BEING DOWN AND WHAT THAT RELATIONSHIP IS TO THE COVID YEAR VERSUS THOSE JUST PRIOR TO TO SEE WE ACTUALLY ARE IN NUMBERS OR WHETHER WE'RE JUST SETTLING BACK TO A PLACE WHERE WE WERE AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY MOVING FORWARD. I HAVE A FEW THINGS HERE JOSH YOU HAD UP ON THE SCREEN REVENUES CHART EXPECTATIONS WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THERE. DO YOU HAVE ONE THAT WOULD SHOW US THE REVENUE WOULD BE WITHOUT THE NEW PARKING LOT I CAN'T INCLUDED IN THAT AND JUST AS AN ADDITION TO THAT I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS AGREED AND HAS ALREADY CLOSED ON THAT WHILE DOING PROPERTY IN THE CLUB IN THE AREA WITH ANTICIPATION THAT THAT BUILDING WILL BE TAKEN DOWN AND THAT SPACE MADE INTO HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS IS A AND ENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 110 TO 140 SO AN ADDITIONAL 110 TO 140 PARKING SPACES COMING ONLINE. AND WHAT DID WE PAY FOR THAT PARKING FOR THAT LOVED ONE'S PROPERTIES COMING? REMEMBER THOSE WERE APPROXIMATELY $4 MILLION APPROXIMATELY $4 MILLION AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL COST OF REDUCING THE BUILDING AND CREATING A PARKING SPACE THOSE ARE REAL DOLLARS BEING SPENT TO CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR PARKING IN THE COLLECTING AREA FOR THE BUSINESSES SAYS FOR THE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES AND FOR OUR VISITORS. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT WE ALSO ARE JUST ABOUT TO CLOSE ON ENCHILADAS AND HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WILL BE AVAILABLE THERE ARE 116 I BELIEVE IT'S BETWEEN 115 AND 130. SO ADDITIONAL 115 TO 130. SO AS YOU CAN SEE WE'RE CLOSE TO 300 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES THAT YOUR TAX DOLLARS WELL INTO THE MILLIONS I BELIEVE THAT PROPERTY WAS ALSO 3 MILLION THEREABOUTS DOLLARS OF SPENT TO CREATE ADDITIONAL PARKING OPPORTUNITIES THE NEW AREA SO WHILE I HEAR THE CONCERNS THE BUSINESS OWNERS THERE I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THERE HAS BEEN A CONCERTED EFFORT AT GREAT EXPENSE INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PARKING OPPORTUNITIES AND ONE STEP FURTHER I HAD MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO LIVE OFF ISLAND TO HAVE A REDUCED RATE OR TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE WOULD TRY TO IN TRYING TO ALLEVIATE ANY BURDEN THAT MAY BE PUT ON THOSE WHO WOULD NOT NATURALLY RECEIVE A PARKING PASS PARKING UP AND FREE UP OPPORTUNITY BY VIRTUE OF BEING A RESIDENT.

SO THOSE ARE POINTS THAT I WANT MAKE SURE ARE WELL UNDERSTOOD BY AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS HERE AND IN TERMS OF A PARKING RIGHT FOR FOR VISITORS, ONE OF THE CHARTS THAT YOU ALSO HAD UP AND TO BE THE SECOND ONE THAT REFER BACK TO BUT ONE OF THE ONES THAT I WANT TO ALSO GO TO IS WHERE YOU HAD A LIST OF EXPENSES THAT THE TOWN INCURS 25,020 $25,500 A YEAR FOR ALL OF THESE ADDITIONAL COSTS SO THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR BEACHES, CARE OF THE PARKING LOTS ALL IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT HILTON REMAINS A PRISTINE BEACH WELL CARED FOR AND AT THE LEVEL THAT WE ARE THE WORLD CLASS LEVEL THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AND EXPECT TO ALWAYS BE SO THAT'S A REAL COST.

AND NOW THAT I'VE FINISHED WITH THAT IF WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT NOW THE REVENUE WOULD BE WITHOUT THE COMMITMENT SO BASED UPON THE PROJECTIONS IT'S ABOUT $400,000 LESS IN ANNUAL REVENUE IF YOU WERE TO EXEMPT COLONY WHICH IS ABOUT 25% OF THE OVERALL PROGRAM ACROSS ALL AREAS. SO IF WE WERE UNDER $1,000,000 BEFORE SO BASICALLY HALF OF WHAT OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BEEN ANTICIPATED AND AGAIN THIS BASED UPON A NUMBER

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OF ASSUMPTIONS BUT WITH THE DATA THAT WE HAVE THAT WOULD BE OUR PROJECTION.

OKAY. SO THOSE ARE REAL NUMBERS, REAL FACTS.

ONE OTHER THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS WE KIND OF HAVE HEARD THAT $3 RATHER THAN THE $5 IS AS A RECOMMENDATION AND THAT'S COME OUT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST A COMPROMISE FOUR AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE REASONS FOR WHY COMPROMISE FOUR IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT OUR NEAREST NEIGHBOR BEACH NEIGHBOR IS TYBEE ISLAND AND THEY CHARGE $4 AN HOUR IF IN THE PAST WE CAN ALL AGREE ON SOME OBSERVED DATA THAT.

WE HAVE HAD AN INFLUX OF FOLKS COMING FROM GEORGIA WHO OTHERWISE MAY HAVE GONE TO THE TYBEE ISLAND BEACH NOW TO HELP HER BECAUSE TYBEE INSTITUTED A PARKING FEE.

WE CERTAINLY WANT TO SEE THAT WE ARE AT LEAST AT SAME LEVEL AS OUR NEAREST NEIGHBOR SO $4 TO ME SEEMS TO BE THE SPOT WHERE WE STAY COMPETITIVE AND PERHAPS THEN SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL INFLUX OF FOLKS WHO COME ONTO THE ISLAND AND DON'T NECESSARILY ABSORB DATA TO SPEND THEIR MONEY AND I BELIEVE WAS AN ARTICLE RECENTLY THAT I READ IN THE ISLAND PACKET I THINK I CAME OUT EARLIER THIS MORNING OR YESTERDAY WHERE IT WAS A QUOTE FROM A BUSINESS OWNER IN COLLECTING THAT THOSE WHO COME ON TO THE ISLAND DON'T NECESSARILY SPEND THEIR MONEY AND THE SHOPS AND RESTAURANTS NEARBY AND YOU CAN READ IT FOR YOURSELF.

SO ALL OF THAT HAVING BEEN SAID I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT $3 I CAN UNDERSTAND THE REASONING THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED. I HOPE THAT YOU ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT $4 SEEMS TO BE A SWEET SPOT THAT WILL BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE. AND AGAIN THIS IS A RESOLUTION AS WE COLLECT REAL DATA WHICH WE SHOULD HAVE AT THIS POINT ALREADY BUT LATER WHEN WE HAVE IT WE CAN MAYBE ADJUSTED TO WHERE IT MIGHT OTHERWISE BE SEEN TO BE MORE APPROPRIATE WHETHER $5 OR THE $3. BUT FOR NOW I THINK THE $4 SHOULD BE WHAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING YOU BETTER. THANK YOU. FIRST JOSH, IS THERE A DEFINITION OF THE BUSINESS DISTRICT? THERE'S NOT A FORMAL DEFINITION OF IT. WE'VE JUST BEEN REFERRING IT TO AS THE HOPE AVENUE BUSINESS DISTRICT GIVEN THE LOCATION OF THE BEACH PARKING AREAS AND THEY'RE ALL BEING ALONG POP AVENUE, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE DEFINITION AT SOME POINT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING IS ALL PROPERTIES THAT ARE FRONTING ON OPENTABLE CORRECT.

AND WE LOOKED AT IT WHEN WE TRIED TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS.

WE USED OUR GIS DIVISION AND WE USED COLLIGNON BEACH PARK AS A CENTER POINT AND WE DID A 100 YARD RADIUS OF 300 FEET FROM THAT AND THEN USE THAT TO IDENTIFY A PROPERTY LIST AND THEN USE THE PROPERTY LIST AND CROSS-REFERENCE IT WITH OUR BUSINESS LICENSE LIST AND WE IDENTIFIED I THINK 140 SOME BUSINESSES THAT WERE WITHIN 300 FEET OF THAT LAST YEAR.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT FOR THESE PURPOSES IT SHOULD BE DEFINED I BELIEVE IN OUR STATE. MR. MAYOR, I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP IN COMING FORWARD WITH A REASONABLE I CAME IN WITH SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS BUT WILLING TO SUPPORT YOUR PROPOSAL. I THINK IT'S REASONABLE WE CAN STUDY IT AGAIN.

LOOK OUT FOR THE STATE AGAIN NEXT YEAR BASED UPON REAL DATA SO THE PRICING FIRST OF ALL I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR TOWN ATTORNEY, A PROCEDURAL QUESTION ON THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN ADOPTED ON THE FIRST READING BUT NOT YET AND WE CAN'T ADOPT IT ON SECOND READING.

SO HOW CAN WE ADOPT A RESOLUTION WHICH IS REFLECTIVE UPON THE ORDINANCE UNTIL THERE'S A SECOND READING I DON'T SEE ALL THAT'S PROCEDURALLY POSSIBLE.

WELL I DON'T THINK ANYTHING PREVENTS COUNCIL FROM CONSIDERING THE RESOLUTION AT THIS TIME OBVIOUSLY. BUT I THINK THE REAL MEANING UNTIL THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT THAT THAT BRINGS THE WHOLE PROGRAM INTO PLAY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN IT'S A AGAIN I DON'T THINK ANYTHING PREVENTS YOU FROM DOING THIS. SO WE BE ADOPTING A RESOLUTION NEEDING THAT AS YOUR OPINION. SO I'VE GOT TO ASK WHAT IT IS THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER THE RESOLUTION BUT IT WON'T HAVE ANY REAL EFFECT UNTIL ADOPTED THE ORDINANCE RIGHT.

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AND SO IT SEEMS AS THEY ARE PUTTING THE PROVERBIAL CART BEFORE THE HORSE HERE I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN AND I WOULD NOT SUPPORT ADOPTING ANYTHING UNTIL WE'VE HAD A SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE. I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT UNDER THE TEXT THE RESOLUTION ITS EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY ONE, 2025 BUT I SEE THAT WOULD BUT I, I MAINTAIN I'M NOT EVEN SURE WE HAVEN'T STARTED TO DO IT UNTIL WE'VE ADOPTED ORDINANCE ON SECOND READING NOTWITHSTANDING THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND WE THAT A CONDITION OF THE RESOLUTION I WOULD NOT HAVE THE ORDINANCE BE ADOPTED IF WHEN THE RESOLUTION TAKES EFFECT I WOULD NOT DO THAT THE THE RESOLUTION WILL WILL BE VOTED THE SECOND READING WILL TAKE PLACE AFTER THE SECOND VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE AND THERE'S USUALLY NOT A SECOND READING OF A RESOLUTION AND I HAVE A QUESTION AND THEN I HAVE OTHER COMMENTS AFTER WE RESOLVE THE PROCEDURAL QUESTION I DO NOT HAVE THE ORDINANCE ON HAND SO WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE AND YOU'VE HAD A FIRST READING THIS EVENING A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD POINT ONE YOU DO CURRENTLY HAVE PAID PARKING IN PLACE FOR SEVERAL LOCATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN IN THE ORDINANCE.

BUT THE MAIN THING IS WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THESE WOULD NEED TO BE KIND OF ADOPTED HAND IN GLOVE OR AT LEAST THAT WAS THE INTENT OF BRINGING THEM FORWARD TOGETHER.

SO BOTH RESOLUTION AND THE ORDINANCE HAVE AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY 1ST, 2025.

SO EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE ADOPTED SEPARATELY, THE EFFECTIVE DATES FOR BOTH ARE IN FACT THE SAME DATES THAT THEY DO COME TOGETHER. AND IF THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS IS TO IMPOSE THOSE COLLECTION OF THOSE FEES SEASONALLY THE EFFECTIVE EFFECTIVE DATE IS ACTUALLY MARCH OF 2025 IS A LOT OF CONFUSION AROUND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE BUT I'LL MAKE SOME COMMENTS. FIRST OF ALL WE HAVE A DRAFT OF A RESOLUTION BEFORE US AND WE'VE DONE PARTICULARLY TALKED ABOUT THE LANGUAGE OF THAT RESOLUTION ITSELF. ALSO AS I RECALL WE HAD SUBSTANTIAL ISSUES WITH THE CLEANING BEACH PARKING LOT THIS SUMMER. I CALL IT CREATIVE PARKING THAT'S BEING A BIT DIPLOMATIC THERE FOLKS PARKING ALL OVER THE PLACE.

OUR PROPERTY WAS BEING ABUSED AND IN SOME CASES DAMAGED AND SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT THE TOWN OWNS AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE BEACHES IN THAT AREA. I AGREE WITH MISS BECKER ABOUT THE EXPENDITURES THAT THE TOWN HAS APPROVED WITH REGARD TO THE OLD WILDLINGS PROPERTY $4 MILLION FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING AND NOT TO CHARGE PARKING IN THIS AREA. I CAN'T I CAN'T GO ALONG WITH THAT. SO I WOULD MOVE AMEND THE RESOLUTION IF WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION TODAY OR THE MOTION THAT IS TO ADOPT IN LIEU THEREOF THE RESOLUTION BEFORE US WITH SECTION ONE BEING ADOPTION SECTION ONE A $3 PER HOUR AND SECTION TWO ADOPTING TO A $50 ALL DAY PARKING FLAT RATE OF $20 PER VEHICLE ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS THAT'S MY MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. SO YOUR MOTION IS TO AMEND TO $3 AN HOUR AND $50 ON A YES AND NOT TO EXCLUDE WHAT'S BEEN LABELED AS THE POST AREA WHICH IS UNDEFINED AND IT WOULD BE A CHARGE FOR PARKING AT THE CLEARLY AREA.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION ALSO AND THERE'S A DISCUSSION ON THAT I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GO AHEAD. I AM PREPARED TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL PUT FORTH BY THE MAYOR AS REPRESENTED IN THE MOTION BY MR. BROWN. BUT IT LEAVES ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE DO THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL REASONS WHY WE'VE GONE INTO THIS ENDEAVOR AND MUCH OF IT HAS TO DO WITH AN EXISTING LEVEL OF TRAFFIC AND ON AVAILABLE PARKING SPACES TODAY AND WE ARE ALL AWARE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ALREADY PLANNED IN WESTERN BEAUFORT DOWN IN JASPER COUNTY THE LIKELIHOOD OF MORE PEOPLE COMING TO THE BEACH IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. WE HAVE TODAY A SITUATION DURING PEAK TIMES MONTHS WE CAN GO ON OUR WHERE BEACHGOERS ARE TAKING CUSTOMERS PARKING SPACES WE HAVE ALL BEEN CONCERNED

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ABOUT THAT FOR SOME TIME BUT WE ARE SUGGESTING AND DISCUSSING TODAY DOES NOT IMPROVE THAT SITUATION AT ALL IF THE CHOICE IS BETWEEN INCLUDING OR NOT INCLUDING THE PUBLIC AREA IF WE EXCLUDE A SITUATION CURRENTLY WHICH I CONSIDER AS BAD WILL GET A LITTLE WORSE IF WE HAVE PARKING AND THEY GO I'M HEARING IT'LL BE WORSE BY A LITTLE MORE BUT IT'S STILL BAD RIGHT NOW TODAY AND WE ARE DOING A SINGLE THING FOR CUSTOMERS AND THAT LEAVES ME VERY CONCERNED ANSWER OR ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT THE PARKING THAT BELONG TO THE SHOPKEEPERS, THE PARKING LOTS INCLUDED IN THIS PAID PARKING PROGRAM, THE RESULT OF THAT IS THAT BEACHGOERS WHO GO INTO THE PRIVATE LOTS WOULD END UP HAVING TO PAY AND NOT DOING THAT NOW CUSTOMERS OF THE STORE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET PRESUMABLY ELECTRONIC VOUCHERS. THIS IS A SYSTEM WHICH IS WIDELY KNOWN BY MERCHANTS AND CUSTOMERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. IT WOULD BE A SURPRISE PROBABLY NOT TO MANY PEOPLE. I THINK THAT THAT APPROACH WHEN THE PRIVATE PEOPLE TAKING A ROLE IN PAID PARKING IT'S IT WOULD BE THEIR PROGRAM THEY WOULD HAVE TO ASSUME ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINANCIAL FOR OPERATIONS I THINK ALSO GET ALL THE PARKING FEES FROM BEACHGOERS WHO SHOULDN'T BE PARKING HERE BUT DO SO IT ISN'T CLEAR TO ME THEN WHAT KIND OF COST WOULD BE ASSUMED IN THAT SITUATION AND I THINK THAT IS TO ME IS THE ONLY REASON SOLUTION THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS AND STILL PROTECT THE ROLE OF CUSTOMERS IN OUR SITUATION. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY MANY OF US WANT TO HAVE A YEAR NOW I THINK WE NEED TO GET VERY SERIOUS CONSIDERATION OF PUSHING THAT PROPOSAL SO THAT WE PROTECT CUSTOMERS AS WELL AS OTHERS. THANK YOU, MR. JAMES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL MAKE AN OBSERVATION THAT IT COULD BE CHALLENGED THAT THE TOWN HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ALMOST A DECADE OR MORE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IT COMES UP WITH A PLAN AND THE BUSINESSES SHOOT IT DOWN. I WOULD SUGGEST MAYOR THAT YOU CREATE A TASK FORCE OF BUSINESS OWNERS AND TOWN REPRESENTATIVES AND YOU CHALLENGE TASK FORCE TO COME UP WITH A JOINT RESOLUTION BY MAY 1ST, 2025 OR SOONER IF POSSIBLE AND THAT IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT RESOLUTION WOULD BE BY JANUARY 1ST, 2026.

I DON'T ANTICIPATE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE BUT WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO BRING TOGETHER THE INTERESTS OF THE BUSINESSES WITH THE TOWNS LEGAL MINDS AND PLANNING MINDS AND AND AND I SO I BELIEVE THAT ESTABLISHING THAT IS A STEP THAT WOULD TAKE US IN THE DIRECTION WHERE WE ARE PUSHING THIS DOWN THE ROAD WITHOUT A DEADLINE AND I THINK WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THE DEADLINE AND I THINK WE NEED TO ESTABLISH SOMETHING THAT SAYS TO THE BUSINESS YOU'VE GOT TO OWN THIS TO DO COME TO THE TABLE. WE'LL COME TO THE TABLE AND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE BY BY DEADLINE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST ONE QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO GET CLARITY ON THE FINANCIALS AFTER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE BEEN ASKING WAS GRUBER.

I THOUGHT THE NUMBER WITH THE OF THE COKE DISTRICT WAS 1.5. AM I WRONG ON THAT? YES. SO HE'S GOING BE MAYBE A HALF A MILLION BELOW THAT ABOUT 400,000 THE PROJECT BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPACES AND THEN AGAIN THE OCCUPANCY RATE OF THOSE SPACES AND I KNOW NOT STORING THE LICENSE PLATE DATA FOR AN EXTENSIVE OF TIME BUT I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO YOUR REPORTING AS TO THE STATE'S DATA USE IN THE FACILITIES YES. SO THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT I DO

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BELIEVE THEY'RE COLLECTING THAT AND I WILL SAY WE HAVE SOME VOLUME DATA IN TERMS OF DAYS OF THE WEEK AND I BELIEVE COLLECTING THESE IS PRIMARILY WHERE WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING THAT DATA. WHAT WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME THAT'S SPENT BY ANY INDIVIDUAL VEHICLE WITHIN THAT LOT BECAUSE NOT REGISTERING OR PAYING SO AS WE PUT IN PLACE THAT SYSTEM YOUR ABOUT THE OBSERVED DATA AND HOW LONG THEY'RE THERE WE'LL BE ABLE GATHER THAT ONCE WE KNOW YES I PAID FOR 2 HOURS I PAID FOR 6 HOURS AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO AGGREGATE THAT AND SAY HERE'S THE OF VEHICLES, HERE'S HOW LONG THEY'RE STAYING AND HERE'S THE PERCENTAGE OF VARIOUS STATES THAT THEY'RE COMING FROM AGAIN GOING BACK TO OBSERVE DATA AT LEAST IN THE COLLIGNON BEACH LOT THIS YEAR SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF GEORGIA LICENSE PLATES ARE WE WERE OBSERVING THANK YOU SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE YOU KNOW ONE THING AND THAT'S THAT'S THE MUNICIPAL COURT SIDE OF THIS CORRECTION ON THE BEACHES THOSE ON THE BEACHES FIREWORKS ON THE BEACHES THERE'S. THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT WE CAN'T ENFORCE ANYTHING AROUND HERE IF THIS ALLOWS US TO ENFORCE PARKING AND ON THE ISLAND AND GIVES US A COURT HERE AND THIS THIS HALL TO ADDRESS THOSE CITATIONS THEN WE'RE CONTROLLING ARE OURSELVES.

RIGHT? THIS IS AN AVENUE TO GET BACK INTO SOME FORM OF ENFORCEMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY WHICH WE DON'T HAVE SO I LOOK IT AS THOUGH YOU KNOW ARE THERE ISSUES ABSOLUTELY. IT IS A CONTROVERSIAL YES IT IS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS WHO KNOWS WHAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG AND THAT'S WHY I SAY LET'S START SLOW. BUT IF THIS PROGRAM AND JOSH I THINK IT WAS ONE POINT JUST UNDER $1.2 MILLION THAT TAKING THE POPE AVENUE AREA OUT WHAT WINGS CORRECT ARE COLLECTING TAKING THAT OUT IT TAKES IT TO $1.2 MILLION WITH A FEE OF 600,000 635,000 STILL LEAVES OVER $600,000 TO INCORPORATE THE MUNICIPAL COURT PLUS HAVE FUNDS TO GO OTHER PLACES.

YEAH WE'RE FORTUNATE WE DON'T NEED THE FUNDS FROM A HIGHER PAID PARKING PROGRAM.

WE DON'T NEED THAT. THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS NOT TO CREATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAMS IS TO PROTECT OURSELVES THAT'S WHY THAT'S HOW I SEE IT I'M YOU KNOW IT TAKES A APPROACH IN MY OPINION AND IT GIVES US THE TIME TO GET THE DATA SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME . CAN I FOLLOW UP ON YOUR COMMENTS THIS IS A IT'S ACTUALLY A COMBINATION OF YOUR COMMENTS AS.

WELL, AS COUNCILMAN ALFORD'S COMMENTS HE CORRECTLY OUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE AND HE POINTED OUT ALSO THE DIFFICULTIES THAT AS YOU HAVE AS WELL. I THINK ALL OF US ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE HAVING ON OUR BEACHES WITH OUR PARKING ETC. AND BY NOT AND NOW BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT THAT WE BOUGHT THESE TWO ADDITIONAL PARKING LOTS MANY SPACES SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND NOT CHARGING THERE IS WHAT WE'VE DONE IS SAID COME ON IN WE'VE GOT EVEN MORE SPACE FOR YOU WHEN WE KNOW WHEN WE'VE JUST ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM. THAT TO ME SOUNDS COMPLETELY COUNTER TO WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IF WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM AND I'M TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

THANK YOU. AND IF I COULD SPEAK TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR YES, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE IN THAT PIPE AVENUE AREA THE WHOLE AREA NORTH AND SOUTH FOREST BRIDGE. IF WE PROVIDE FREE PARKING IN THAT AREA IT'S GOING TO DRIVE EVEN MORE VEHICLES TO THAT AREA WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE DATA FOR THIS MAYBE IT'S ANECDOTAL SOMEBODY CAN ARGUE THAT BUT HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES THAT YOU CAN'T MOVE ON HOPE AVENUE THERE'S ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE THERE FOR THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE COMING DOWN IN THE FUTURE AND IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP FOLKS BY ADDING MORE PARKING AVAILABILITY THAT IS FREE IN THAT AREA, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE.

YOU KNOW, SEE PINE CIRCLE WAS STOPPED. YOU COULDN'T GET THROUGH THEIR PROGRAMS. YOU KNOW, I USED TO LIVE DOWN THERE A BLOCK FROM THIS AREA.

I WOULD NOT GO I WOULD ONLY WALK ON SATURDAYS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET IN AND OUT.

YOU THINK ABOUT WE DO HAVE AT LEAST A SHIPYARD FIRE STATION CLOSE BY BUT HOW ARE THEY GOING

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TO MOVE THEIR VEHICLES BACK AND FORTH ON PIPE AVENUE? SO WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING, BE ABLE TO MANAGE THE TRAFFIC THERE AND PROVIDING MORE AND MORE FREE PARKING IS NOT GOING TO DO IT. IT'S JUST GOING TO EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM AND I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT DAMAGES TO OUR PROPERTY AND THAT'S ABOVE THE CARS.

YOU KNOW, MARY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENCE ABOUT $600 MILLION.

WELL, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 600,000. YEAH.

OH, WHAT'S A NICKEL HERE? THERE. BUT ANYHOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT DIFFERENCE BUT THEN YOU YOU LOOK AT THE KIND OF ENFORCEMENT AND THE KIND OF OTHER ACTIVITIES CLEANUP AND AND IT'S JUST GOING TO GROW AND GROW AND GROW AND WE'VE GOT TO PUT A STOP TO IT. I SAID YESTERDAY HAVE LOST CONTROL AND ONLY BY HAVING CONTROLS LIKE THIS AND YOU KNOW I WOULD LOVE FOR THERE HAVE BEEN TO SOME RESOLUTION WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO DON'T CHARGE BUT WE WORKED AT IT FOR A WHILE AND NONE HAS COME FORWARD AND SO I CONTINUE SAY WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A WAY OF MANAGING THIS PARKING FACILITY THAT WE HAVE ON HOPE AVENUE AND THE CLINTON BEACH PARKING AREA AS WELL AS THE OTHER NEW PARKING AREAS AND IT'S NOT PROVIDING AND IT'S NOT CHARGING NOTHING SO A STAND BY MY MOTION AND I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT THAT WAY WE ARE NOT.

QUESTION MR. AMES, REAL QUICK I THINK IT'S INESCAPABLE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THE ENFORCEMENT QUESTION AND WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THE EMPLOYEE PARKING QUESTION I THINK WE ESTABLISH A DEADLINE WHEN THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH FROM THE TOWN STANDPOINT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION TO $3 AN HOUR OR $15 ALL DAY AND NOT EXCLUDE ANY AREAS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND AND THAT IS THAT MOTION FAILS AND WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. BROWN SECONDED BY MR. AMES AND I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME BUT THAT WHICH MR. BROWN STATED YOU DID I GOT IT ON.

YES IF I COULD I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION NOW OKAY AFTERWARDS.

OKAY SO SO THERE THERE'S A MOTION BY MR. BROWN SECOND BY MR. AMES AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. I'M SORRY WE HAVEN'T HAD A WHOLE DISCUSSION ON ONE. ONE MORE THING I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT IT'S BEEN ASKED THAT THE TOWN COLLECT MORE DATA. I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO ALSO ASK BUSINESSES FOR DATA ON PROBLEMS WITH THEIR PARKING AND NOT ANECDOTAL AND I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THAT SOMEONE CALL THE MOTION BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL WHAT ALEX IN RESPECT TO YOUR MOTION WHATSOEVER SO ABSOLUTELY I WILL RESTATE ABOVE THAT WE APPROVED A RESOLUTION SETTING FORTH THE FOLLOWING ELEMENTS A PAY BEACH PARKING PROGRAM RESIDENT BEACH PARKING PASSES WILL BE FREE AND WILL REMAIN LIMITED TO TWO PER HOUSEHOLD. THE TOWN WILL CHARGE A RATE OF $3 PER HOUR IN OFF BEACH PARKING FACILITIES WITH THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE A MAXIMUM DAILY REDUCTION OF $15 PER DAY. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND IMPOSING A FLAT RATE OF $20 PER DAY PER VEHICLE ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS. THE TOWN WILL COLLECT BEACH PARKING FEES SEASONALLY FROM MARCH 1ST UNTIL SEPTEMBER 7TH OPERATING HOURS FOR ALL TOWN BEACH PARKS WILL BE FROM 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M. YEAR-ROUND DETECTIVE WILL COLLECT BEACH PARKING FEES UNTIL 5 P.M. CHAPLIN BEACH PARK WILL REMAIN EXEMPT FROM THE BEACH PARKING DURING ALL YOUTH RECREATIONAL SPORTS SEASONS BEACH PARKING AREAS WITHIN THE PULP AVENUE BUSINESS DISTRICT WILL REMAIN FREE OF CHARGE BUT ARE SUBJECT TO BE REVIEWED AND REVISED AT A LATER DATE.

SEMANTICS WE WILL CALL THE VOTE ON THAT AGAIN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASING IN PART BY YOUR RIGHT HAND ON THIS POST MOTION PASSES 5 TO 2. ALL RIGHT.

[8.c. Consideration of a Resolution to Accept the Final Report for the William Hilton Parkway Gateway Corridor Project Independent Study - Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager]

NEXT THANK YOU ALL. NEXT WE HAVE SHAWN COLEMAN WHO REPRESENT WHO PRESENT THE CONDITIONS OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE FINAL REPORT FOR THE WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY GATEWAY QUARTER PROJECT INDEPENDENT STUDY FROM OF 2023 THROUGH JUNE OF 2024 THERE WERE TEN PUBLIC

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MEETINGS WITH THE COMMITTEE AUGUST 2024 THE FINAL DRAFT REPORT WAS PRESENTED TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE A22 VOTE TO ACCEPT THE FINAL REPORT WITH THE COMMITTEE MEMBER ABSENT MR. CUTLER THANK YOU, MAYOR EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU, MAYOR TOWN COUNCIL SHAWN HOLMES, TOWN MANAGER AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE FINAL REPORT IN MY LOCHBIHLER GROUP AT THE DIRECTION OF TOWN COUNCIL. SO THE TOWN COUNCIL DESIRED A CONTRACT QUALIFIED FIRM TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT STUDY IN THE PARKWAY GATEWAY CORRIDOR AND TO HAVE THE SELECT FIRM VERIFY ASSUMPTIONS, METHODOLOGIES, ALTERNATIVES AND PREFERRED DESIGN RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE TECHNICALLY ACCURATE AND SERVED IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE BUILDING THAT ISLAND THE FINDINGS INITIAL FINDINGS THIS REPORT WERE PRESENTED TO THE TOWN COUNCIL AND A TOWN COUNCIL ON JUNE 17TH STAFF PRESENTED THOSE RESULTS SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO TOO FAR BACK IN TIME. I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE ADDITIONAL FINDINGS TO INCLUDE THE IMPACTS DOWNSTREAM THAT INCLUDE IMPACTS DOWNSTREAM OF THE DEFINE PROJECT BETWEEN MAULES CREEK AND GUM TREE ROAD WHICH WAS THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT BY LOCK MILLER. SO BEFORE HIS CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT HIS FINAL REPORT EXCEPT IN THIS FINAL REPORT WHEN COMPLETE THE DOCUMENT WORK IT WOULD ALSO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN STAFF TO UTILIZE THIS FOR FUTURE PROJECTS AS THEY ARISE.

SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU A OVERVIEW ON THE PROJECT PROGRESS AND REVIEW THE DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS FROM THAT WERE INCLUDED IN TASK FOUR OF THE SCOPE OF WORK APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL MITIGATION SOLUTIONS FOR A COUPLE LOCAL INTERSECTION ENDS AND THEN ASKED FOR CONSIDERATION TO ACCEPT THE FINAL REPORT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO SINCE THE SINCE THE TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT AGAIN THE MAJOR WHAT WE CALL THE GATEWAY SECTION MAULES CREEK AND THIS WAS THROUGH TWO THROUGH TO GUM TREE THE STEPS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN SINCE THAT TIME HAVE BEEN CONTINUING DOWNSTREAM EVALUATION AND ANALYSIS OF THE INTERSECTIONS AND SO ON THE BUSINESS ROUTE THE WENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE WHOOPING CRANE INDIGO GO RUN AND ON THE CROSS ON THE PARKWAY TO AND THROUGH THE SEE SEE PINE CIRCLE THEY'VE INTRODUCED MITIGATION STRATEGIES WHERE THERE WERE WHERE THERE WERE IMPACTS FOR CONSIDERATION AND AND AGAIN THE GOAL WOULD BE TO INCORPORATE THOSE IN THE FUTURE PROJECTS FOR THOSE INTERSECTIONS THEY PREPARED THE TRAFFIC OPERATION AND SAFETY REPORT THE FINAL REPORT WHICH WAS ON THE PACKET WHICH COMPREHENSIVELY DETAILS ALL OF THE WORK DONE BETWEEN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR AND THROUGH AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.

I WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE PRESENTATION OF THE FINAL REPORT AND FINDINGS RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PRESENTED TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON WEDNESDAY AUGUST 14TH.

AT THAT MEETING THERE WERE FOUR MEMBERS. THERE WAS A REQUEST TO RECOMMEND THE FINAL REPORT TO TOWN COUNCIL AND. THERE WAS A VOTE OF TWO TWO SO IT'S COMING FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THERE WAS ONE MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ABSENT AT THE AUGUST MEETING SO GENERAL SUMMARY OF THE TASKS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE OF WORK APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL PROJECT INITIATION COORDINATION THAT WAS REVIEWING EXISTING WORKS THAT WERE DONE TO TO VALIDATE EXISTING ASSUMPTIONS AND THEN TO MOVE INTO THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODELING EVALUATION LIKE MUELLER LOOKED AT THE REGIONAL TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL THAT WAS PROVIDED BY LOWCOUNTRY COUNSEL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND LANDS THAT WAS USED BY CDOT AND COUNTY IN INITIALLY IDENTIFYING THE PARAMETERS FOR THE GATEWAY PROJECT THEY COMPLETED A REVIEW. THEY BUILT THEIR OWN MODEL INCLUDED DIFFERENT OUTPUTS AS FAR AS ASSUMPTIONS AND GROWTH RATE AND COMPLETED TASK TWO THEY COMPLETED THE TRAFFIC MODEL UPDATE AND AND CALIBRATED FOR OPERATIONAL OUTPUT TO UNDERSTAND THE PREDICTABILITY OF THE MODEL AND USE THAT AS THEY GENERATED INFORMATION ON ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE CONSIDERED IN THE GATEWAY PROJECT AREA.

THEY LOOKED AT MODELING THROUGH THAT ENTIRE AREA, EVALUATED FIVE ALTERNATIVES OR RECOMMENDED BY THE CONSULTANT ALONG WITH THE SOUTHERN CONNECTOR WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED BY SOME COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WAS ALL EVALUATED ALONG WITH THE

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RECOMMENDATION TO ADVANCE ONE ALTERNATIVE FOR ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION THAT ALTERNATIVE WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE WITH THE PROJECT THAT COUNCIL IDENTIFIED AND SET EXPECTATIONS FOR DURING ITS MEETING ON JUNE 28TH THAT THAT DEFINED PROJECT FROM TOWN COUNCIL WAS USED TO LOOK AT THE DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS FROM AS OF THE NEXT PART OF THE EVALUATION THE TASK FIVE IS TO IS TO PREPARE AND PROVIDE THE FINAL ON COUNCIL. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR TO SHARE THE FINAL REPORT WITH TOWN COUNCIL AND PRESENT YOU ANY FINDINGS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN JUNE AND REALLY FROM OCTOBER THROUGH JUNE ADDITIONAL WORK WAS DONE BEYOND THE GUM TREE INTERSECTION ON THE BUSINESS ROUTE AND AND DOWN THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY TO INCLUDE SEA PINE CIRCLE THE INFORMATION WAS NOT PRESENTED TO THE TOWN COUNCIL AT THE JUNE MEETING WE REVIEWED THE FINDINGS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS PRESENTED AND AND AUTHORIZED BY TOWN COUNCIL TO INCLUDE ONE LEFT TURN LANE THAT'S OUR HARBOR ROAD GOING EASTBOUND AND HEADED NORTH AND THEN ONE RIGHT DOWN RIGHT TURN LANE COMING OFF OF SCARBOROUGH AND GOING WESTBOUND.

THOSE WERE THE THAT WAS THE ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT MODELING SO WITHOUT INCLUDED ANALYSIS INCLUDING THEIR MODELING CAPABILITIES DETERMINE THE IMPACTS DOWNSTREAM AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS IS THE PROJECT DEFINE PROJECT AREA THAT WAS INCLUDED THE SCOPE OF WORK AND AS I MENTIONED ON THE BUSINESS FRONT AND THEN GO RUN AND TO SEE PINE CIRCLE ON THE CROSS ISLAND ROUTE THE CONSULTANT BUILDER BUILT THE THE MODELING USING SYNCHRO AND THEN SWITCHED TO A MORE ACCURATE AND BETTER PREDICTABILITY MODEL CALLED THIS WHAT THEY PRESENTED TO THE AND WHAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU HERE TODAY IS TRAVEL TIME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MAULES CREEK THE THE EAST THE WESTERNMOST PORTION OF THE PROJECT AND THE EASTERNMOST PORTION OF MOST POINTS ON THE BUSINESS TO INDIGO AND EASTERNMOST POINT ON THE CROSS ISLAND AS WE PINE CIRCLE YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S INCLUDED IN HERE THE TRAVEL TIME SIMULATION THIS INFORMATION IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN JUNE A NOBLE SCENARIO FOR TRAVEL TIME IN THE EASTBOUND DIRECTION OF ROUGHLY 26 MINUTES EXCUSE ME WITH NOBLE REDUCES DOWN TO 10 MINUTES WITH THE PROJECT DEFINED BY TOWN COUNCIL AND SUPPORTED IN JUNE AND THEN WESTBOUND YOU CAN SEE IN THAT SAME TRAVEL TIME GOING OFF ISLAND OR FROM 25 MINUTES TO 10 MINUTES AGAIN THIS INFORMATION WAS SHARED IN TOWN COUNCIL THAT'S FOR THE BUSINESS TRIAL I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT AND THE FOR THE SEA PINES SECTION YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN TIME FRAMES THERE AND THEN OFF ISLAND 41 TO 15 SO OVERALL THE EVALUATION THE OF IMPLEMENTING THE PROJECT IN THE GATEWAY CORRIDOR THE MODELING FOUND NO SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS EAST OF GUM TREE OR THE CROSS ISLAND WITH A COUPLE A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE NO BUILD SCENARIO THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE WILMORE AND PEMBROKE DRIVE INTERSECTIONS OF PARKWAY ON THE BUSINESS ROUTE AND THEN ALSO THE PINE CIRCLE AS YOU GO ON THE ON THE CROSS ISLAND ROUTE THROUGH SEE PINE CIRCLE WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE RESULTS ARE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT AN IMPROVEMENT WOULD BE IN THE SEA PINE CIRCLE I THINK PROBABLY PREACHING TO THE CHOIR WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THERE'S SOME DEFICIENCIES IN SEA PINES AND THE MOVING TRAFFIC THROUGH THE STONY CORRIDOR A LITTLE FASTER ONLY GETS TRAFFIC THERE A LITTLE QUICKER AND THEREFORE CREATES A LITTLE MORE CONGESTION THERE AND. THEY'VE RECOMMENDED SOME THEY PROVIDED TWO OPTIONS FOR SOLUTIONS AT SEA PINES. I'M JUST GOING TO TOUCH ON THOSE BRIEFLY. I DO WANT TO REMIND TOWN COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE A ANOTHER ENGAGEMENT CORRIDORS PLAN A PLANNING THOROUGHFARES CORRIDOR PLANNING THAT ALSO INCLUDES A DEEP DOVE AND EVALUATION OF THE POMONA MAY SEE PINE CIRCLE BOTH AVENUE SECTION AND INCLUDES

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[9. Public Comment - Non Agenda Items]

CONCLUDE AND MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN I'M SURE GIVEN THAT WE ALREADY GIVEN YOU SO OKAY SO KIM AS ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM I HAVE CHRISTOPHER CLIFF.

MR. CLIFF WE SIGNED UP A REALLY THAT I SIGNED UP FOR THIS IS FOR THIS ITEM SO FOR THIS FOR THE AGENDA VERY SORRY I DID NOT HEAR THAT MR. CLIFF LET ME STATE AT THE OUTSET THAT I DON'T SUPPORT YES SO DO OATLY'S PROPOSED SOLUTION AND I ALSO BELIEVE THE COUNCIL TERRIBLY IN GRANTING AN UNCONDITIONAL MUNICIPAL HAVING SAID THAT IT DOESN'T PREVENT ME FROM COMPLIMENT SHAWN AND HIS TEAM. I THINK HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB IN THE FACE OF CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF CRITICISM INCLUDING FROM ME AND OTHER PEOPLE I THINK DID A GREAT JOB NOT MOONAH SOME OF THE PRESENTATIONS WERE UNINTELLIGIBLE IN MY BAILIWICK I SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON STRATEGY, A LOT OF TIME STATISTICAL ANALYSIS AND INTERPRETATION AND PLANNING A LOT MOOLA FOR THE LIFE OF ME I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY REACH SOME OF THEIR CONCLUSIONS. THEY USE TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS AND THEY PROPOSE ONE BECAUSE IT GIVES A BETTER ANSWER. THEY'VE BEEN SINGLING UNABLE TO RECONCILE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ANSWERS THE TWO SYSTEMS I'VE LOOKED AT IT, I'VE READ IT, I'VE LOOKED AT IT AGAIN AND I STILL CAN'T RECONCILE. THE TWO DIFFERENCES THEY USE THE SAME INPUT DATA AND USE THE SAME TIME PERIOD AND YET YOU GET TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANSWERS AND THEY'RE THERE. THE EXPLANATION IS A GLIB WELL IT'S VERY GLIB.

IT SAYS ONE IS MORE ACCURATE THAN THE OTHER. THAT'S TOSH.

WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PRESENTING IS THE SOLUTION SUPPORTS.

YES, YOU DO TAKE PREFERRED SOLUTION SO WHAT DOES ACCEPT THE FINAL REPORT MEAN I'M NOT SURE. I THINK WE CAN ALL ACCEPT LAKMAL HAVE COMPLETED ALL THE TASKS THEY WERE ASKED TO UNDERTAKE AND. THEREFORE I THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE COUNCIL TO RECORD THAT THEY A FINAL REPORT BUT IF ACCEPT MEANS YOU APPROVE OF IT I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER BECAUSE IT'S FULL OF FLAWS AND THE UNDERLYING PRINCIPLES THEY'VE USED ARE SUBJECT TO RIDICULE BUT NONE OF THAT SHOULD TAKE AWAY FROM SHAUN AND HIS TEAM WHAT A GREAT JOB HE DID. AND SO I RECORD THE REPORT.

I WOULD DROP THE WORD ACCEPT AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU MR. CLIFF. I ALSO HAVE MR. ADVOCAAT ON HERE TOWN COUNCIL MR. MAYOR, MR. TOWN MANAGER HERE I AM AGAIN AFTER SPENDING SO HOURS ON THIS CORRIDOR ISSUE AND I WANT TO OPEN EYES. I THINK THE WOOL HAS BEEN PULLED OVER OUR EYES IN MANY AND CRITICAL ELEMENTS HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN MUFFLED AND SO I HAVE 1213 ISSUES HERE THAT I'LL I'LL PRESENT YOU AND I HOPE YOU TAKE IT IN BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR ISLANDS.

SO THE CORNWALL COMMUNITY FOR NUMBER ONE DID NOT APPROVE THE LOT OF STUDY FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF REASONS. THE SOLUTIONS SUGGESTED BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN FLATLY IGNORED. AN 11 LANE BRIDGE IS NOT PROVIDING A REMEDY TO THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION. OKAY SO YOU BUILD IT. IT'S NOT GUARANTEED THAT IT WILL PROVIDE US WITH A SOLUTION. IT MAY TURN INTO A PARKING LOT IN ITSELF. THE ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WHICH I WAS VERY TO SEE INSTALLED IS NOT ADAPTIVE. IT DOESN'T CREATE THE ADAPTIVE NATURE CREATING A READ ON DENSITY OF TRAFFIC AND A CONTINUOUS GREEN FLOW. IT DOESN'T AND I HOPE THAT THE

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TOWN IS GOING TO TAKE SOME ACTION ON THAT WITH A TWO LANE MERGE FOR THE CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY INTO THE WESTBOUND TO 78 WAS THROWN AND THAT WAS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WOULD THE TRAFFIC FLOW. IT WAS THROWN OUT FOR NO GOOD REASON WIDENING THE BRIDGES WITH LANE RATHER THAN REBUILDING THREE OF THE FOUR SPANS HAS ALSO BEEN PUSHED ASIDE AND IT'S IS A GOOD THING TO LOOK AT AND AT THE COST ASPECTS OF IT.

A BYPASS WITH DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE CROSS ISLAND AND CIRCUMVENTING TRAFFIC LIGHTS WAS ALSO PUSHED BY DESIGN SUGGESTED BY A LANDSCAPING COMPANY.

IT REALLY WAS SERIOUSLY LOOKED AT AS WE LOOKED IT BECAUSE IT'S A VIABLE SOLUTION.

NOW MY MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE MODELING ON THE TRAFFIC SIMULATIONS NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH A TOP DOWN MODEL SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THE EFFECTS ARE ON VARIOUS PARTS OF THE ISLAND. IF YOU USE A TOP DOWN MODEL YOU CAN SEE THE EFFECTS.

IF YOU PUT A BRIDGE IN HERE, YOU PUT AN OVERPASS THERE YOU CANNOT SEE THAT IN THE MODELS ON THE VISION IN SYNCHRO YOU SIMPLY CAN'T. IT'S A VERY SIMPLE WAY APPROACH IT. EVERY MEETING OF THE CORRIDOR COMMITTEE I HAVE SUGGESTED THE CONSULTANT DO THIS. IT'S BEEN IGNORED AND. I THINK IT PROVIDES A SOLUTION NOT JUST FOR THE TOWN BUT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. IT'S QUITE SIMPLE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CONSULTANT COME BACK AND ACTUALLY DO THAT.

JUST ALLOCATE YOUR TIME AND TIME IS UP. OKAY, WELL THESE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. I HOPE THAT YOU CAN CAN ANSWER THESE THINGS NOT WITHOUT AN OPEN OPEN WAY. THANK YOU. IT WAS THE OTHER COMMENTS.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

WE GOT TO SET UP A CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE FINAL REPORT FOR THE WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY GATEWAY CORRIDOR FOR PROJECT INDEPENDENT STUDY.

YES, I'LL BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION OF THAT COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE FINAL REPORT FOR THE WILLIAM PARKWAY GATEWAY CORRIDOR PROJECT INDEPENDENT STUDY.

THE SECOND IN A DISCUSSION AND I'M HEARING NONE GO RAISE MY HAND.

SORRY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. FIRST I'M GOING TO REQUEST THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE RESIDENT HAVE THAT HE RAN OUT OF TIME TO ASK BE GIVEN TO THE CLERK TOWN CLERK THAT ALL OF US I SEE THOSE COMMENTS AND THAT THEY BE PUT INTO THE RECORD AS WELL IN ADDITION TO THAT I HAVE A QUESTION. SO WHAT WAS THE COST OF OUR STUDY? THE CONTRACT COST WAS $429,000 AND DID THAT INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL WORK FROM GUMTREE TO SEE POUNDS IN THERE AS WELL. SO THAT WAS INCLUSIVE OF ALL THE WORK THAT WAS DONE RIGHT. AND WHO PAID THE 429 MILLION OF THOSE FUNDS COME FROM? WE RECEIVED A GRANT EARMARKED FROM THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA FOR $300,000.

THE BALANCE OF THE OTHER MONEY 129 WAS ONE BUILT WITHIN THE TOWN BUDGET.

I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO COME UNDER BUDGET AND NOT REACH THAT FOR 29 BUT BUT I DON'T HAVE THE FINAL INVOICE. SO THE BALANCE BEYOND 300 WAS WITHIN THE TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED BUDGET. OKAY. SO IN FINAL BUDGET FINAL COST COMES IN. I'D TO REQUEST THAT WE ARE GIVEN THAT BY THE TOWN MANAGER AND WE CAN CONVEY FINAL COST. OKAY. YOU KNOW I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE HERE TODAY. I LISTENED FOR SINCE THE BEGINNING WELL BEFORE I WAS A TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN THE FIRST DISCUSSIONS ABOUT 278 IN THE CORRIDOR AND THE BRIDGES STARTED AND I LISTENED CAREFULLY TO EVERY MEETING I MAY HAVE MISSED IN ALL THAT TIME. I MAY HAVE MISSED THREE OR FOUR CONCLUSIONS THAT WEREN'T DRAWN AND ACTED UPON BY THE TOWN COUNCIL OR ONCE BUT I THINK IN THE LONG RUN ARE GOING TO PROVE TO BE BAD DECISIONS AND I'M NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DAY BECAUSE THEN WE'LL BE SITTING HERE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS THAT WE OURSELVES

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CREATED . THAT'S A SHAME. I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN THESE NEXT STEPS THAT SEEM TO BE HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN INTO PLACE FROM THE CORRIDOR PROJECT NOW TO THE SECOND STAGE OF THE PLAN TO THE SEA CIRCLE. WE ALL KNOW THE TRAFFIC ON THE ISLAND IS BAD. WE'VE MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS ON HOW IT CAN BE IMPROVED SOME STEPS THAT CAN BE TAKEN ONES THAT WORK SUGGESTED TONIGHT AND YET HERE WE ARE PUTTING OURSELVES IN MORE JEOPARDY OF MORE CAPACITY ISSUES AS MOVE FORWARD.

AND I'M WISH IT WASN'T THAT WAY AND I HOPE TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT COME BEFORE US IN FUTURE. I WILL NOT BE ACCEPTING THIS REPORT THE STATEMENTS MADE TODAY AND MY EXPERIENCE OVER THE LAST MANY YEARS OF WATCHING THIS LEAD ME TO A CONCLUSION THAT THE REPORT WAS FLAWED AND THAT THE DECISIONS WERE INCORRECT.

AND I'VE SAID THE REST. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS, SIR.

SOME OF THEM ARE ALSO AGAINST ACCEPTING REPORT FOR THE REASONS SET FORTH IN MY COMMENTS AT OUR WORKSHOP ON JUNE 17 SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT LOCHBIHLER COMPLETED THE TASK NOTWITHSTANDING THE ANALYSIS OF 100% PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO THE STONE. THERE WAS A TASK INCLUDED IN THERE FOR COMMUNITY MEETING TOWN HALL IF REQUIRED. THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION.

IT WAS NOT BROUGHT UP TO THE COMMITTEE. AND THE RESPONSE FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE ME AT THAT WORKSHOP WAS THIS IS IT, THIS WORKSHOP IS IT? I'VE FOUND THAT INSULTING TO THE STANDING COMMUNITY. AND SINCE THE COMMITTEE NOT RECOMMEND ACCEPTANCE VOTED 2 TO 2 I CAME WITHOUT ANY RECOMMENDATION IN FACT A MOTION TO ACCEPT HAD FAILED. SO I WILL NOT BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THIS.

THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS WITH BRAM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I'M I'M I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT GOING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS CONVERSATIONS THAT WORKS OUT AROUND CORDOVA. I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW KIND OF THE B AND C PLANS IN ISOLATION WON'T BE A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. THAT PLAN? YES, SIR. THAT IS ONE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

IS THAT IS THAT SECTION OF THE CORRIDORS METAL BARS IN BONDS OR PULP AVENUE AND NORTH AND SOUTH HALL BEACH. OKAY. COUNCILMAN MILFORD HAS CONTINUED TO BE ON THE DRAMA BECAUSE HE BROUGHT CIRCLE SOME ATTENTION AND I'M THAT THIS THIS IS ABSOLUTELY IN FRONT OF US HERE WHICH WE HAVE ON THE SCREEN.

I ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH SEA BONDS ABOUT SOME ALTERNATIVE ROUTES INTO SEA PONDS TO SORT OF ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC AND I KNOW THAT THAT IS GOING TAKE SOME TIME BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE OF US AS WE MOVING FORWARD TO NOT LIMIT OURSELVES AS FAR AS THOSE CONVERSATION CONCERNED I THINK THERE IS A BIGGER HAVING A CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND JUST AS WE HAVE PUT AS MUCH TIME AND ENERGY INTO THE CORRIDOR AS WE COME ACROSS THE BRIDGES WE NEED TO PUT AS MUCH ENERGY, TIME AND INVESTMENT INTO THIS AREA AS WELL BECAUSE WE UNDERSTOOD FROM VERY BEGINNING THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM HERE TO BE IN THE PROBLEM WILL BE WORSE IN THE FUTURE.

SO IT'S A GOOD POINT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO SET FORTH AS A PRIORITY IN MY OPINION. SO I JUST WANT TO THAT POINT AND NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT IT'S A PROBLEM TODAY REGARDLESS OF THE REPORT, REGARDLESS OF THE CONTROVERSY.

THIS IS AN ISSUE. THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NOW WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. AMES SECONDED BY MR. STANFORD TO ACCEPT THE FINAL REPORT OF THE WILLIAM HOLDEN PARKWAY GATEWAY PROJECT INDEPENDENT STUDY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED PASS THE 5 TO 2.

[8.d. Consideration of a Resolution to Dissolve the William Hilton Parkway Gateway Corridor Independent Review Advisory Committee - Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager]

LASTLY WE HAVE MR. KRALIK PRESENTING US WITH A RESOLUTION TO DISSOLVE THE WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY GATEWAY CORRIDOR INDEPENDENT REVIEW ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

SO SO I GUESS WE COULD JUST ASK IS THERE MOTION AT THE AP TO MAKE A MOTION COUNCIL APPROVE A

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RESOLUTION TO DISSOLVE THE WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY GATEWAY CORRIDOR INDEPENDENT REVIEW ADVISORY COMMITTEE? IS THERE A SECOND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, KIM ANY MIGHT SIGN UP? I HAVE CHRISTOPHER CLIFF AGAIN AGAIN MY NAME'S CHRIS CLIFF CHRIS AND CLIFF AGAIN ANYWAY THIS THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISSOLVED A LONG TIME AGO I'M SURE. ALAN, YOU FELT IT WAS GOING NOWHERE.

I FELT IT WAS GOING NOWHERE. AND QUITE CANDIDLY, DESPITE THE INDIVIDUALS BEING VERY PLEASANT AND VERY PROFESSIONAL, NOT MORAL OR INCOMPETENT THE STATISTICAL PRESENTATIONS, THE ORAL PRESENTATIONS AND THE VISUAL PRESENTATIONS ARE PRETTY POOR AND THE CANDIDLY WERE UNINTELLIGIBLE AND SEAN WILL TELL YOU I COMMITTED HIM NUMEROUS TIMES AND I FOUND IT VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW THEIR LOGIC AND THEIR PRESENTATIONS.

I WERE LARGELY DIRECTED TOWARDS PROVIDING THE GREAT ISLAND COUNCIL WANTED THE OUTCOMES TO BE AND SO THIS RESOLUTION TO DISSOLVE THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS LONG OVERDUE AND I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU WILL PASS IT SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE ON THAT? OH, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW THE DISCUSSION FROM FROM COUNCIL RIGHT SEEMED ON ALL THOSE IN FAVOR GOING ENOUGH ON MY GREEN BUT ONE OF THE REASONS I SET FORTH WITH REGARD TO THE PREVIOUS ONE AND TO SEE I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THE DISSOLUTION OF THIS COMMITTEE I DON'T THINK THE TASK HAD BEEN COMPLETED SO THE WORK HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED AND ALSO WE DON'T YET HAVE A RESPONSE FROM NORFOLK COUNTY WITH REGARD TO OUR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.

SO I WILL NOT BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF DISSOLVING THE COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU. BUT THE COMMENTS BEING DONE WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY MR. AND SECURED BY MR. SANFORD TO DISSOLVE THE WOODEN HILTON GATE PARKWAY GATEWAY CORRIDOR INDEPENDENT REVIEW ADVISORY COMMITTEE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND THOSE OPPOSED AS A 6 TO 1 PUBLIC COMMENT MOVING ON TO THE NON AGENDA ITEM SECTION OF PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION 25 TO 70 OF THE TOWNS CODE LIMITS EACH TO 1 TO 3 MINUTE COMMENT WHEN ADDRESSING COUNCIL AT THE END OF YOUR MINUTES YOU'RE ASKED TO CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS. PLEASE MAINTAIN THAT THE COMMENTS SUITABLE FOR THE MEETING AND REFRAIN FROM USING ANY PROFANE, ABUSIVE OR OBSCENE LANGUAGE.

YOU HAVE ANY MATERIALS YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE TOWN COUNCIL? PLEASE GIVE THEM TO THE TOWN CLERK AFTER YOU ARE FINISHED SPEAKING.

JIM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY UP TO SPEAK TO THAT? YES.