[1. CALL TO ORDER]
          [00:00:10]
          BUT THE UNITED STATES AMERICA IS THE REASON WHY ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH AND JUSTICE FOR ALL PUBLIC NOTIFICATION THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. 
          PLEASE CONFIRM. YES, MA'AM, IT HAS. ALL RIGHT. 
          [4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THE AGENDA BUT BEFORE WE APPROVE IT. 
          I THINK WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT. YES, MADAM. I WOULD ASK THAT WE ALTER THE AGENDA BY TAKING ITEM NUMBER 13 AS THE FIRST ITEM WHEN WE GET TO THE AGENDA ITEMS I A SECOND SECOND IF I HAVE SECOND. ANY WITHOUT OBJECTION YOU DIDN'T. 
          THIS WILL BE PASSED IN THE NEW AMENDMENT. WILL NOW NEED A MOTION FOR THE NEW AMENDMENT. YES MA'AM, I WOULD ASK THAT THE AGENDA BE APPROVED AS AMENDED THAT WITHOUT OBJECTION THE NEW AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. OKAY. 
          [5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE MINUTES AUGUST 19TH, 2024. 
          I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION FOR THEM. 
          I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TAVERNER AND SECOND BY COUNCIL FROM DAWSON WITHOUT. 
          THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 19 FOR APPROVAL. I ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON FOR 
          [6. CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD]
CITIZEN COMMENT QUINQUENNAT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. GOOD AFTERNOON. GLAD A DAY AT THE QUEEN QUINT HEAD FOR THE BODY OF THE NATION AND FOUNDED A GALAXY TO SEA ISLAND COALITION AND CURRENT CHEER FOR THE CPO SAINT HELENA ISLAND. SO I'M GLAD TO BE BACK HERE. 
          IT'S BEEN A MINUTE SINCE I'VE SEEN YOU IN THIS CONTEXT. I'VE SEEN MOST OF YOU I THINK OUTSIDE OF YOU ACTUALLY OUT IN THE PUBLIC DOING WORK. AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE FACT THAT YOU GOING TO DISCUSS TONIGHT THE POTENTIAL PERFORMING ARTS AND WHAT WAS BEING CALLED PERFORMING ARTS SCENE AT FIRST AND NOW I SEE THIS AS MORE OF A COMMUNITY CENTER AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE ON SAINT HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN IN THE PAST. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ACTUALLY HEARING THE PROPOSAL. 
          I WAS HOPING THAT THE COMMENT WASN'T GOING TO HAVE TO COME UNTIL I ACTUALLY HEARD THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. BUT I'M GOING TO DO IT DECENTLY IN ORDER SINCE I HAVE TO COMMENT NOW. AND I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO ALSO BE WELL AWARE THAT THIS CPO COMMITTEE WILL LIKELY BE COMING BEFORE YOU IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE ONE OF OUR BIGGEST ISSUES ON SAINT HELENA IS PROTECTING OUR OF COURSE BUT ALSO PROTECTING THE BURIAL AREAS AT ALL ALONG THE WATERWAYS AND ALONG THE SALTMARSH. AND SO ONE OF THE INITIATIVES THAT THE SEA ISLAND COALITION IS LEADING IS ACTUALLY CALLED GULLAH GEECHEE CREATE. WE JUST AN EVENT ON SAINT HELENA. ANOTHER ONE TO ACTUALLY CLEAN DEBRIS THE MARSH AND THEN AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND SHE ARTISTS ARE CONVERTING THAT UPCYCLING IT INTO AND THAT IS PART OF A GREATER PROJECT THAT WE HAVE AT THE GALAXY ISLAND COALITION CALLED GALAXY IN WHICH IS SAVING ENVIRONMENTAL ACTIONS IN THE MARINE ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND SO WE HAVE FUNDING BOTH FROM THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION AND THE NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY FOUNDATION FOR THAT. AND WE'RE COUPLING IT NOW WITH FUNDING ALSO FROM THE NATIONAL AND WILDLIFE FEDERATION AS PART OF THE SOUTH ATLANTIC SALTMARSH INITIATIVE. AND SO ST HELENA IS A KEYSTONE CENTERPIECE FOR A NUMBER OF FEDERAL AGENCIES INCLUDING THE EPA AND YOU SACK THE U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS WHO ARE WORKING WITH US AND WE HAVE ALREADY UNVEILED THE FIRST GULLAH GEECHEE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TRAIL ON SAINT HELENA. IT GOES IT STARTS INSIDE THE GEECHEE ROOM IN THE ST HELENA BRANCH LIBRARY AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY OVER THE PEN CENTER ALL THE WAY TO THEIR DOCK. 
          SO WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO COME OUT THIS COMMITTEE IN PARTICULAR ON ONE DAY AND HOPEFULLY OUR COUNCILMAN WILL LEAD YOU OVER THERE AND I CAN TAKE YOU ON A WALK THROUGH OUR TRAIL. BUT KNOWING THAT ALL OF THIS WORK IS GOING TO WEAR THE SPOTLIGHT ON SAINT HELENA SO THAT WE PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT AND KEEP THE CULTURE TOGETHER. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE AND LET YOU KNOW I'LL BE BACK IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO GIVE YOU A FULL REPORT. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DID ANYONE SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? 
          [7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORTS]
          [00:05:01]
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE GOING ON WITH THE AGENDA NEXT AS OUR ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS REPORTS AND MISS AUDRA M.S. IS GOING TO COME FORWARD FORWARD. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR. AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          I JUST HAVE A COUPLE UPDATES FROM THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION. 
          MY FIRST ONE IS REBECCA WITH THE NEXUS CARE COUNTY. SHE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND AN INVITE ON AN EVENT THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS SPONSORING NEXT MONTH TO RECOGNIZE RECOVERY MONTH. I BELIEVE SHE ALSO HAS A PIN FOR EACH OF YOU ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT HERE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET FLIER AT THE COUNCIL MEETING THIS EVENING. WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL CAN JOIN US. 
          THERE'LL BE QUITE A FEW EXHIBITORS. IT'S GOING TAKE PLACE AT THE BATTERY CREEK MARY CREEK HIGH SCHOOL, CORRECT? YES MA'AM. 
          SEPTEMBER 19TH FROM 6 TO 8. THANK YOU ALL. WHILE SHE'S PASSING THOSE OUT. 
          I'D LIKE TO BRING UP CAROLINE FURMAN. SHE'S THE DIRECTOR OF THE VETERANS AFFAIRS OFFICE. IF YOU RECALL LAST MONTH I SHARED THE DEPARTMENT SPONSORING EVENTS AT AMBASSADOR IN PORT ROYAL A STAND DOWN FOR HOMELESS. 
          AT THAT TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DATA BUT I HAVE ASKED HER TO COME TO PRESENT THE DATA THAT SHE HAD AND OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN HOWARD, YOU WERE THERE ATTENDED AS WELL. 
          SO IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL. SO I WOULD ASK HER TO COME UP HERE AND AND PROVIDE THAT UPDATE TO EACH OF YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          IT WAS A VERY CROWDED EVENT SO I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE AND HOW MANY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. YES. YES. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR ATTENDING ON THE 16TH OF AUGUST WE DID HAVE OUR INAUGURAL HOMELESS VETERANS STAND DOWN. WE HAD 75 VETERANS THAT ACTUALLY ATTEND AS PARTICIPANTS. 55 OF THEM WERE MALE AND 25 WERE FEMALE. 
          WHAT WAS NOT COUNTED WERE THE 15 CHILDREN. WHILE THIS WASN'T A HUGE TURNOUT IN TERMS OF VETERAN STAND DOWNS, IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS OUR FIRST AND THE MOST IMPORTANT TAKE AWAY WAS THAT IT INTRODUCED THE NEED IN COUNTY AS WELL AS THE GREAT SHOWING OF PARTICIPANTS WE HAD 25 DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT CAME OUT TO PARTICIPATE. 
          NONPROFITS GOVERNMENT LOCAL GOVERNMENT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE HAD FOLKS FROM COLUMBIA, CAROLINA, THE REGIONAL OFFICE. WE HAD FOLKS FROM RALPH JOHNSON AND THEN FROM SAVANNAH, GEORGIA CAME OUT TO SUPPORT THIS. 75 VETERANS WERE GIVING GIVEN BAGS THAT INCLUDED SLEEPING BAGS, PANTS, SHIRTS, JACKETS UNDERGARMENTS, FOOD AS WELL AS RAIN JACKETS. 
          SO THAT WAS THEIR TAKE AWAY. BUT THEY WERE THERE. THEY HAD ACCESS TO ENROLLMENT INTO HEALTH CARE. THEY HAD A WELLNESS MOBILE VEHICLE FROM RALPH JOHNSON THAT DID WELLNESS. WE HAD CIVILIAN NURSES THAT DID THE WELLNESS ON DEPENDENT YOU KNOW THAT THE VA CAN'T TAKE CARE OF . WE GOT HELP WITH ENROLLMENT IN VETERANS SERVICES FOR COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS AS WELL AS MENTAL HEALTH AND WE HAD COUPLE OF BARBERS OUT THERE FROM POPPIES THAT GAVE FREE HAIRCUTS. 
          SO THIS WAS A GREAT EVENT. IT WAS WE PLAN TO DO IT AGAIN IN IN FUTURE YEARS BUT IT WAS JUST THE OUTPOURING SUPPORT FROM NOT ONLY OUR LEADERSHIP BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER WAS REALLY VERY HEARTWARMING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS SOME QUESTIONS FROM COUNTY COUNCIL. 
          JUST WANT TO SAY THANK VERY MUCH FOR THE EFFORTS. OH NO. 
          APPRECIATE IT. LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP YOU IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. 
          YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW ANYONE ELSE? IT'S JUST IT'S JUST CAROL. JUST AN ANNUAL EVENT. THIS WAS THE FIRST ONE, SIR. 
          SO DO PLAN ON HAVING AN ANNUAL HOMELESS VETERAN AND WE'D LIKE TO EXPAND THAT OUT TO IN FACT FOR EVERYONE THAT DID SHOW UP SOME OF THEM WERE NOT VETERANS BUT WE DIDN'T TURN ANY OF THEM AWAY. SO WE DID HELP EVERYONE WHO HAD TRANSPORTATION. 
          WE DID YES, MA'AM. WE HAD FOUR LOCATIONS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT PARTNERED WITH US TO LET US KNOW WHERE THE ENCAMPMENTS WERE AND WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM DEA DISABILITIES. I'M SORRY, DISABLED AMERICAN VETERANS AND AND VETS THEY TOOK THEIR VEHICLES IN AND MADE THE SWEEP THROUGHOUT THE DAY TO PICK UP AND DROP OFF OUR VETERANS THIS MORNING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          AT THIS TIME ASSISTANT OH, WE'RE GOING TO FROM ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR NOT CHUCK BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO OTHER PEOPLE REPRESENT THE WOMEN'S I HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD 
          [00:10:08]
NEWS SO IF YOU GO DOWN AND VICTORIA HOFFMAN WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING FIRST CHUCK OR I'M SURE THEY CAN HANDLE IT. SO KNOWING THE TWO OF THEM OH YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          SO WE ARE REPRESENTING THE EMERGING LEADERS AND THE CONFERENCE AND WE ARE GOING TO BE GOING TO COLUMBIA ON SEPTEMBER 19TH TO WE HAVE SUBMITTED A SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AWARD AND SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVING THIS PRESENTATION BUT WE WILL BE THIS AGAIN FOR THE SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES ON THE 19TH AS IN COMPETITION AND COMPETITION FOR J. 
          MITCHELL GRAHAM AWARD. RIGHT. SO YOU'RE OUR PRACTICE RUN. 
          YES. OKAY. AND ACTION. 
          NOPE. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SOUND. OH, SORRY. 
          WELCOME THE COUNTY WOMEN'S LEADERSHIP SUMMIT WHERE EMPOWERED WOMEN SHAPE THE FUTURE. EVERY YEAR WE COME TOGETHER TO LEARN, CONNECT AND LEAD FROM INSPIRING SPEAKERS TO ENGAGING WORKSHOPS. THIS SUMMIT IS ABOUT GROWTH AND COLLABORATION WHETHER YOU'RE A SEASONED PROFESSIONAL, AN EMERGING LEADER, THIS SUMMIT IS YOUR PLATFORM TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. JOIN US AS WE CONTINUE TO EMPOWER AND INSPIRE IN THE YEARS TO COME. YOUR LEADERSHIP JOURNEY STARTS HERE COUNTY WOMEN'S LEADERSHIP SUMMIT LEADING WAY TOGETHER. IMAGINE THAT YOUR EMPLOYER IS SO INVESTED IN YOUR GROWTH THAT YOU GET AN INVITATION TO ATTEND EVENT. 
          RIGHT TO YOUR DESKTOP. COUNTY. WE'RE THAT LUCKY. 
          HELLO. I'M VICTORIA HOFFMAN AND I'M THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING FOR COUNTY. MOST ALSO THE EMERGING LEADERS VICE PRESIDENT FROM 2021 TO 2023 AND I'M KATIE GO I'M A SENIOR PREVENTION IS WITH OUR ALCOHOL AND DRUG AGENCY NOW KNOWN NEXUS CARE OF  COUNTY AND I'M A 2024 EMERGING LEADER AND CONFERENCE COMMITTEE MEMBER TRYING TO TELL YOU HOW AMAZING OUR WOMEN'S SUMMIT IS IS LIKE TRYING TO CONVEY HOW BEAUTIFUL COUNTY IS. YOU JUST HAVE TO SEE IT TO BELIEVE IT WE HAVE THIS VIDEO AND OUR PRESENTATION DISPLAYS HOW IMPACTFUL THIS EVENT IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR TIMELINE TO GET THIS EVENT TO FRUITION IN 2021 THE EMERGING LEADERS GROUP WAS CREATED BECAUSE OUR ASSISTANT COUNTY MINUTES ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE JARED FREILICH HAD A VISION TO HAVE A GROUP TO CREATE UNITY AMONG COWORKERS WHO SHARED A COMMON GOAL OF WANTING TO EXCEL IN THEIR CAREERS AND FOSTER MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS. 
          THE GROUP STARTED IN THE PUBLIC WORKS AND DEPARTMENT AND QUICKLY GREW TO COUNTYWIDE IN 2022. AS IT GREW WE ESTABLISHED VISION AND GOALS TO FILL THOSE GOALS OF DEVELOPING PROFESSIONAL SKILLS AND SERVING THE COMMUNITY. 
          OUR FIRST PROJECT WAS CREATED WHICH IS THE WOMEN'S LEADERSHIP SUMMIT IN 2023. 
          THE WOMEN'S LEADERSHIP SUMMIT WAS CREATED TO FOSTER EQUITY, EMPOWER AND ENCOURAGE WOMEN WITHIN COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO FOCUS ON THEIR PERSONAL AND THEIR PROFESSIONAL GROWTH. 
          IT CREATES OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR STAFF TO LEARN AND ENGAGE FROM LOCAL LEADERS. 
          IT NOT ONLY BENEFITS THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE WOMEN'S CONFERENCE BUT IT ALLOWS THE LEADERSHIP COMMITTEE THE EMERGING LEADERS THAT ARE PLANNING IT TO STRENGTHEN THEIR SKILLS AND PROJECT PLANNING BUDGET, PLANNING, EVENT COORDINATION AND TEAM LEADERSHIP. AND 2023 WE HAD OUR FIRST SUMMIT AS YOU CAN SEE IN THESE PICTURES IT WAS CALLED EXPANDING OUR INFLUENCE AND IN 2024 WE GOT WE HAD OUR SECOND CONFERENCE WHICH WAS CALLED EMBRACING ME A JOURNEY OF GROWTH. 
          THESE LAST TWO EVENTS WERE SO IMPACTFUL THAT OUR LEADERSHIP ENCOURAGED US TO APPLY FOR THE SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AWARDS AND. SO HERE WE ARE TODAY THIS TABLE 
          [00:15:07]
DISPLAYS A BAR GRAPH THAT REPRESENTS PERCENTAGE OF WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP ROLES AND VARIOUS SECTOR SECTORS. 2024 DESPITE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS, WOMEN REMAIN UNDERREPRESENTED IN LEADERSHIP ROLES AS YOU CAN SEE JUST 10% OF CEO ROLES IN THE S&P 500 ARE HELD BY WOMEN IN THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY. DESPITE WOMEN MAKING UP THE MAJORITY OF THE WORKFORCE, THEY ARE STILL UNDER REPRESENTED IN LEADERSHIP ROLES HOLDING ONLY 15% OF THOSE POSITIONS IN GOVERNMENT LEADERSHIP IN SOUTH CAROLINA WOMEN HOLD 14% OF ELECTED POSITIONS IN COUNTY WE HAVE MORE PROMISING FIGURES ABOUT HALF OF THE WORKFORCE ARE FEMALES. 50% OF THE DIRECTORS ARE FEMALE AND ONE IN FOUR ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS ARE FEMALE. ADDRESSING GAP OF WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP ROLES IS NOT ONLY IMPORTANT FOR EQUALITY BUT FOR ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL BENEFITS. 
          THE SUMMIT WAS CREATED TO SUPPORT AND MENTOR WOMEN IN PURSUIT OF LEADERSHIP BY ADDRESSING AND PROMOTING DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, THE SUMMIT HELPS US BUILD A MORE COHESIVE AND SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY WHILE THE MAJORITY OF THE PARTICIPANT S ARE WOMEN, MEN ARE INVITED TO ATTEND. WHY? BECAUSE WHEN WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER WE CAN CREATE A MORE WELCOMING, SUPPORTIVE WORK ENVIRONMENT. 
          WE CREATE MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND POLICIES. WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES MEN LEAD WOMEN AND SOMETIMES WOMEN LEAD MEN AND WE AS HUMANS ARE CREATED TO DO MEANINGFUL WORK. IT'S A RIPPLE EFFECT WHEN I IS A WOMAN, A A WIFE CAN ENJOY AND FEEL ENCOURAGED IN MY CAREER I NOW BECOME A MORE PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY. 
          THE SUMMIT NETWORKING POSSIBILITIES THROUGHOUT COUNTY GOVERNMENT OUR DEPARTMENTS INTERMINGLE TOGETHER AND MENTORSHIPS ARE FORMED WHEN I AM A BETTER COUNTY EMPLOYEE I CAN BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WORK FOR THE CITIZENS. 
          IN 2023 WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO EXPECT AS FAR AS ATTENDANCE AFTER WE SENT IN THE EMAIL INVITING COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO ATTEND WE REACHED THE MAX SEATING CAPACITY OF 80 AND HAD TO CREATE A WAITLIST IN 2024 WE HAD OVER 105 IN ATTENDANCE AND WE ACTUALLY HAD TO CAP OUR REGISTRATION DUE TO LIMITED SPACE AT THE VENUE WE A REALLY LOT WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT ACCOMPLISHED SPEAKERS WE WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE AND HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF HOSTING COUNCILWOMAN OF  COUNTY AS ALICE HOWARD MAYOR LISA SOCCER TOWN OF BLUFFTON, COUNTY TREASURER MARIA WALZ AND SOUTH CAROLINA STATE REPRESENTATIVE SHANNON ERICKSON AND THIS YEAR A FEW OF OUR MAIN SPEAKERS WERE MS. MARILYN, THE DIRECTOR OF THE BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR COUNTY SECRETARY HALL FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. MS. ELISA PASSMAN OUR COUNTY COUNCIL CHAIRMAN'S WIFE AND FORMER PRO WRESTLER LACEY EVANS WE ARE TRACKING PARTICIPANTS FROM THE LAST TWO YEARS TO SEE WHERE THEIR CAREER JOURNEYS THEM THROUGH THE COUNTY AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE QUOTE PROVIDED MS. DEFINITELY BUTLER THE 2024 EMERGING LEADERS PRESIDENT THE SUMMIT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD, EXPAND YOUR SKILLS AND TO LEARN FROM OTHERS. 
          WE BELIEVE THE SUMMIT IS BOTH AND UNIQUE FROM OUR RESEARCH WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND A SIMILAR EVENT THAT CATERS TO WOMEN IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE POSITIONS. WE SAW A NEED FOR THE SUMMIT AND WENT FORWARD WITH FULFILLING THAT ROLE. THIS IS ALSO THE FIRST AND ONLY OF ITS KIND FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES. IT IS A FREE EVENT LOCALLY HELD AND CATERED TO EMPLOYEES OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT HOSTED BY EMPLOYEES. 
          THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WE ARE IMPLEMENTING DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION WITHIN THE COUNTY WITHOUT HAVING A DEPARTMENT TO ADDRESS AND APPROACH THOSE ISSUES. 
          THE SUMMIT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR WOMEN TO HAVE A VOICE TO BE SEEN AND TO BUILD TO BUILD A COMMUNITY OF DIVERSE LIKE MINDED PEOPLE WHO THEY WORK WITH AND THEN FALL ON FOR SUPPORT. AND THIS IS HOW YOU CAN IMPLEMENT THIS IN YOUR COUNTY FIRST IS TO IDENTIFY LEADERS LIKE WE DID WITH THE EMERGING LEADERS GROUP IN YOUR COUNTY THAT CAN TAKE ON SUCH A TASK. THEN AFTER YOU'VE CREATED THAT COMMITTEE YOU CREATE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT CAN TAKE PART IN THE SUMMIT AND IDENTIFY A BUDGET, A THEME AND A VENUE THAT WILL LEAVE YOUR PARTICIPANTS EXCITED AND ENCOURAGED ENCOURAGED BRAINSTORM SPEAKERS AND ACTIVITIES BASED ON THE THEME CHOSEN AND PLAN PLANNING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HARD IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND THE TOOLS IN PLACE TO EXECUTE THE EVENT THE GREEN BAR A LINK TO A DROP BOX WHERE WE HAVE PROVIDED DOCUMENTS WILL ASSIST OTHERS IN PLANNING SIMILAR EVENTS. THE DOCUMENTS INCLUDE A PLANNING CHECKLIST TEMPLATES 
          [00:20:05]
AND A SAMPLE DOCUMENT WE USE WHEN PLANNING. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT. WE WANT LOVE TO SEE OTHERS USE THESE RESOURCES. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE FOUND WHEN WE INITIATED THIS IT WAS NOT JUST NEEDED BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE EMERGING LEADERS REALIZED VERY QUICKLY THAT THE PARTICIPANTS NEEDED IT. LIKE I SAID, OVER 100 WERE AT THE EVENT THIS PAST YEAR THE COUNTY WOMEN'S LEADERSHIP SUMMIT ISN'T JUST AN EVENT, IT'S A MOVEMENT AND THE FUTURE OF THAT MOVEMENT IT'S IN YOUR LET'S LEAD SOUTH CAROLINA IN IT TOGETHER. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. 
          IT WAS GREAT FUN. NOW ANY QUESTIONS FROM OUR COMMITTEE? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. YOU DON'T NEED LUCK. 
          IT WILL GO WELL, I'M SURE. EXCELLENT. EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. WE HAVE NO OTHER REPORTS FROM THE ASSISTANT COUNTY 
          [13. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO FUND REVIEW OF MITCHELVILLE APPRAISALS]
ADMINISTRATORS AT THIS TIME. WE'LL TAKE THE AGENDA ITEM THAT WAS MOVED UP WHICH NUMBER 13 ON THE ORIGINAL AGENDA WHICH IS RECOMMEND APPROVAL FUND THE REVIEW OF THE MITCHELL BILL APPRAISALS AND WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE CHAIRMAN OF THE GREENSPACE COMMISSION MR. MIKE . WE MET ON FRIDAY THE GREENSPACE COMMITTEE DID THROUGH HIS LEADERSHIP AND HE HAS A REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS COMMITTEE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIRMAN . MEMBERS. 
          FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS MIKE MCSHANE. I'M A RESIDENT CHARLESTON COUNTY. ALTHOUGH THE LAST FEW DAYS I FEEL LIKE I MIGHT BE HERE ENOUGH TO WHERE MAYBE YOUR TECH SENSOR MIGHT SAY SOMETHING ABOUT MY PARTICIPATION HERE BUT I AM HERE WE HAVE A REQUEST AND I'LL COME TO THAT REQUEST OF THIS COMMITTEE ON FRIDAY YOUR GREEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MET WITH THE PURPOSE TO OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AND OTHERS TO COMMENT ABOUT THE PROGRAM YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A PROJECT THAT COUNCIL HAS APPROVED UNDER RESOLUTION REFERRED TO AS MITCHELL BILL WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 26 ACRES ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND. THE RESOLUTION WAS 100% OF THE APPRAISED VALUE FOR A NEW APPRAISAL. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A COMPLICATED SCENARIO BECAUSE THERE WAS A COURT ORDER IN THE PROCESS ABOUT QUICKLY THE CONTRACT HAD TO BE AND IT WAS UNDER BID PROCESS UNDER COURT REVIEW THE TOWN OF HILTON MADE A COMMITMENT AND WENT ON A CONTRACT OR OFFERED A CONTRACT FOR 11.75 MILLION. 
          THE NEW APPRAISAL CAME IN RIGHT AROUND 10 MILLION. THERE HAD BEEN AN APPRAISAL DONE OVER A YEAR PRIOR WHICH WAS WHY OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO LOOK AT DOING THE NEW APPRAISAL BECAUSE BECAUSE YOUR COMMITTEE'S POLICY IS WE THINK THAT APPRAISALS OF THAT TENURE NEED TO BE REVIEWED. IT IS NOT UNCOMMON WHEN YOU SEE THE SORT OF DIFFERENTIAL TO ASK FOR THIRD PARTY REVIEW IN MY STATE ROLE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE STATE BANK WE'VE DONE THIS PROBABLY ABOUT A HALF DOZEN TO BE CLEAR THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY SHEARER ANYONE THAT AN APPRAISED VALUE CHANGE MATCHED THE ORIGINAL APPRAISAL IN FACT OFFERS SOME RISK THAT AN APPRAISAL COULD COME AT A LOWER UNDER STATE LAW YOUR CONSERVATION YOUR STATE BANK AND I'M GOING TO QUOTE HERE BY STATUTE THE BOARD ONLY MAY AUTHORIZE GRANTS OR LOANS TO PURCHASE INTEREST IN LANDS AT OR BELOW FAIR MARKET VALUE IN THE CASES MADE MAY FUNDS FROM THE TRUST BE USED TO ACQUIRE INTEREST IN LANDS AT A PRICE THAT EXCEED SHOULD NEVER BE USED TO EXCEED FAIR MARKET VALUE? WE MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION AS OUR POLICY ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS NOT TO EXCEED APPRAISED VALUE AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNSEL TO STATE WE'RE ASKING TODAY FOR THE COMMITTEE'S APPROVAL FOR AN EXPENDITURE THAT SHOULD BE NOT TO EXCEED $10,000. IT SHOULD BE FAR LESS THAN THAT. TWO TO HAVE THE COUNTY THROUGH ITS PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND COUNSEL WITH THE LEGAL COUNSEL OF YOUR GREENSPACE COMMITTEE TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY REVIEW FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE THIRD PARTY REVIEW, IT TYPICALLY USED TO LOOK AT METRICS STANDARDS THEY FOLLOW THE NORMAL PRACTICES AND REPORT BACK. 
          [00:25:04]
ONCE THAT REPORT COMES BACK THEN WE CAN ASSESS WHETHER THERE'S ANY RECOMMENDATION ON THE CHANGE OF THAT MOST RECENT APPRAISAL. WE WOULD THEN COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE TO INFORM THAT I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT BOTH CHAIRMAN PASSMAN AND ADMINISTRATOR MOORE WERE IN ATTENDANCE ALONG WITH CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE ON FRIDAY ON THE IN THE MUNICIPALITY THAT WERE REPRESENTED JUST SO EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HERE THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON THE CITY OF BEAUFORT IN THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL. I ASKED STAFF TO CONFIRM AND I THINK THEY DID AFFIRM THE TOWN GMC WAS INCLUDED IN THAT INVITATION BUT THEY DID NOT AND THERE WERE OTHER APPLICANTS THERE AS WELL THAT WERE NOT MUNICIPALITIES. MY VIEW OF THAT WAS THAT SOME OF THE MUNICIPALITIES WERE VERY HUNG UP ON A PARTICULAR CALLED MATCH I THINK THEY THOUGHT MATCH WAS A VERY NARROW SCOPE OF THAT. THEY HAD TO PUT MONEY IN IT AND THEY BELIEVED THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE REFERENDUM THAT THEY WERE NOT EVER TOLD BEFOREHAND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO EVER PUT MONEY IN THAT. I OFFERED AN EXPLANATION, THE ADMINISTRATOR TOLD ME EARLIER WE'LL SEE IF THEY HEARD THE THAT MATCH DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN IT HAS TO SPECIFICALLY FROM THE TOWN MATCH COULD BE A BARGAIN SALE MATCH COULD BE PHILANTHROPY MATCH COULD BE OTHER STATE OR FEDERAL GRANTS OR THE MAY OFFER TO THE TO THE MUNICIPALITY THAT IS MY EXPERIENCE REPRESENTING THE STATE FOR OVER TWO DECADES OF MANY CONSERVATION REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS THAT WHEN THE STATE SHOWS UP KNOCKS ON THE DOOR WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS TO THE VALUE SO IT GOES UP THE HAS LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO THAT WE DON'T GO KNOCKING ON DOOR TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE. WE LOOK FOR OUR FRIENDS AND PARTNERS CONSERVATION TO HELP DO THAT AND IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AT THE WHETHER IT'S THROUGH COMMERCE OR NATURAL RESOURCES, FORESTRY OR PARKS, RECREATION AND TOURISM OR EVEN IN SOME OF OUR STATE UNIVERSITIES TO DO THAT AND COERCE MUNICIPALITIES TO LOOK AT THEIR PARTNERS TO HELP THEM WITH THE OFTEN TERM WILL BE WILLING TO CONSIDER A DISCOUNT WHEN THEY KNOW THAT CAN BE A CHARITABLE GIFT THROUGH THEIR NONPROFIT AS WELL AS PROVIDE OTHER TAX BENEFITS FOR THEM. MR. CHAIRMAN, YOUR OBSERVATION IN THE ADMINISTRATORS IS THAT THAT SEEMED TO BE A NEW IDEA SOME OF OUR FRIENDS IN YOUR MUNICIPALITIES. 
          HOPEFULLY THEY'LL SEIZE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND USE THAT GOING FORWARD. 
          ON THE I MADE A SPECIFIC SUGGESTION WHEN YOU ASKED ME TO SERVE AT YOUR PLEASURE TO TAKE $100 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY AND LET'S HAVE A $400 MILLION IMPACT NOT TO TAKE $100 MILLION, DIVVY IT UP AMONG MUNICIPALITIES, SEND THEM A CHECK AND WATCH IT. 
          JUST DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF IMPACT. YOU'VE ALREADY PROVEN THAT BECAUSE ON YOUR ON THE DEAL THAT WAS IN COUNTY YOU TOOK $1,000,000 TO HAVE A $35 MILLION IMPACT. MITCHELL BILL, WAS THAT AN ICONIC UNIQUE PROJECT THAT A RECOMMENDATION WAS TO TO FUND A HUNDRED PERCENT UP TO THE APPRAISED VALUE? I DON'T THINK THE COMMITTEE WILL CONTINUE TO BRING SUGGESTIONS RECOMMENDATIONS TO FUND 100% WHEN WE KNOW THERE ARE WAYS THAT OUR FRIENDS CAN GO SEEK OTHER FUNDING. 
          THAT'S HOW YOU TAKE THAT $100 MILLION HAVE A $400 MILLION IMPACT ON THE. 
          MADAM CHAIRMAN, THE REQUEST IS FOR THE GREENSPACE COMMITTEE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SPEND UP TO $10,000 TO DO A REVIEW OF THE TWO APPRAISALS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ON MITCHELL WILL AND I SHOULD ASK AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN UPDATE ON CLOSING OF MITCHELL SHOULD ANY MOMENT NOW THAT I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT EFFECT AND I WILL BE SO GLAD TO MAKE MOTION. 
          LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION . MADAM CHAIR, JUST A QUICK QUESTION WITH MR. MITCHELL. SO LISTEN, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS 
          [00:30:01]
. I WATCHED THAT MEETING FRIDAY AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO IT. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR TOWN OF HILTON HEAD THIS $10,000 ASK DOES THAT INCLUDE A SEPARATE APPRAISAL? I MEAN WHERE IS THAT DISCUSSION? IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE BE CLEAR WE'RE NOT ASKING TO DO A THIRD APPRAISAL. WE'RE ASKING TO DO AN APPRAISAL REVIEW BY A THIRD PARTY AS TO TAKE THE TWO EXISTING APPRAISALS. 
          I DON'T RECOMMEND THE THIRD APPRAISAL ONE. FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT I COULD. SURE I DON'T CONTROL THE ACCOUNT BUT IT IS NOT UNUSUAL TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY REVIEW THE TWO APPRAISALS BID SO THEY WOULD HAVE AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF HOW THEY WERE DOING PROCESS DID THEY USE ACCURATE PLAN INFORMATION? THERE WAS A CORRECTION ON THE PLAT BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND APPRAISAL THAT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT. SO THERE WERE ALSO OTHER ELEMENTS OF ARCHEOLOGICAL VALUE THAT WERE DETERMINED THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON VALUE. THIS WILL ASSURE THAT MY MIND I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION WILL BE SURE THAT WE COME BACK WITH GOOD INTEL FROM THIS COUNCIL. 
          THAT'S FANTASTIC. DOES THIS APPRAISAL OR REVIEW ALLOW THAT GROUP TO ADJUST THOSE NUMBERS? I MEAN BETWEEN FIRST APPRAISAL A YEAR OR SO AGO TO NOW I MEAN SOME PEOPLE ARE FINDING IT VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND PROPERTY OF THAT NATURE ESPECIALLY IN THIS MARKET ON. THE OCEAN LIKE IT IS CAN GO FROM WHAT IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO TO WHAT IT IS TODAY. YOU KNOW BASED ON THE COURT PRESSURE TO GET THIS DONE, MY THING IS HOW DO WE YOU KNOW HOW DO WE AT THAT AND MAKE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT WHOLE PROCESS? WELL, I THINK THE FIRST AND FOREMOST IS WE'RE ALWAYS TRANSPARENT ON WHAT WE DO SO NOTHING IS DONE. SO WE'RE IN THE BACK OF A ROOM TO DO SO. SO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE SET UP A GREENSPACE COMMITTEE SO THE COUNCIL'S NOT TRYING TO MANAGE THAT BUT TAKES THE POLITICS OF THAT OUT. 
          WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WE HAVE OUR OWN INDEPENDENT COUNSEL WHO THEN CHOOSES TO GO AND OVERSEE THAT REVIEW ALONGSIDE YOUR COUNTY COUNCIL RIGHT TO DO SO AND YOUR STAFF DO TO ME THAT MEANS THAT THERE SHOULD BE GOOD CONFIDENCE IN THE PROCESS BEING APPLIED IT WAS AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND SORT OF MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE PARAMETERS OF , WHAT THE VIEW IS GOING TO BE AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR A COMPLETE WE CAN APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT IT WAS ABOUT A $1.8 BILLION DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE TWO APPRAISALS. 
          IT'S EASY FOR ME TO LOOK AT THEM AND COME UP WITH ONE ITEM BUT THIS WILL THEN ALLOW PROFESSIONALS DO A PERFECT COME BACK TO ME AS IMPORTANT BUT I WAS VERY CLEAR TO OUR FRIENDS DO NOT HAVE THE EXPECTATION IS NECESSARILY GOING TO BRING IT RIGHT BACK DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR TO WHAT THEY DID AND ALSO IT ASKS KEEP IN MIND HAD THEY NOT MADE THAT OFFER WE WOULDN'T HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. THERE WAS A SECOND COMPETING OFFER SLIGHTLY UNDER THE FOR A DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THIS COUNCIL IN THE PEOPLE THAT I GREW WITH THAT WE ALL REPRESENT APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THIS THROUGH THE WAY IT DID TO PROTECT THAT BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY. 
          SO I APPRECIATE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YES, MA'AM. 
          CALCIUM TOWER TIME IS RETAINED SO I HAVE TOTAL CONFIDENCE IN THE GREENSPACE COMMITTEE SINCE AS YOU I WAS ON THE INTERVIEW TEAM SO I THINK YOU'RE A GREAT BUNCH OF PEOPLE AND I LOVE THAT POLITICS IS NOT PART OF IT. SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT SO YOU I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE THIRD PARTY REVIEW THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON YOU SAID. MR. EXCUSE ME? NO MA'AM. WHEN IT IS BOTH ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE ALSO EVEN ON THE GOVERNMENTAL SIDE WHEN WE SEE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT APPRAISALS AND VALUES COME IN, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO ASK FOR A THIRD PARTY REVIEW. YOU SIMPLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOTH APPRAISALS FOLLOW THE RIGHT STANDARDS THEY USE THE RIGHT PRACTICES. 
          WERE THERE METRICS REASONABLE? WERE THEY ACCURATE THEIR IN THAT AND THEN IT JUST GIVES A DEFENSE WHAT IT WOULD BE. I DON'T WANT TO WALK AWAY FROM YOUR HAVING PEOPLE THINK THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO COME IN SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN. IT MAY NOT IT MAY IT LOOKS LIKELY IS ARE GOING TO COME TO THE TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER IT VERY WELL COULD EVEN SAY OTHER THINGS WERE IN CONSIDERATION AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND THEREFORE THE NUMBER COULD BE LOWER THAT BUT GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO KNOW THAT AND MY OTHER QUESTION WAS AFTER THE PROPERTY'S TAKEN IN MY GREEN SPACE YOU'RE STILL TRYING TO FIND OTHER FUNDERS IN THERE, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. 
          I MADE A COMMITMENT TO THIS COUNCIL TO SEEK FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR REIMBURSEMENT TO THE GREEN 
          [00:35:03]
SPACE PROGRAM SPACES FOR THIS PROGRAM. RIGHT. 
          OKAY. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE I DO I FIRMLY BELIEVE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITY THESE TO DO SO. NOW TO BE CLEAR GREEN SPACE WILL THE PROPERTY GREEN SPACE WILL NEVER HOLD FEE SIMPLE TO ANY REAL ESTATE IN THIS CASE WILL BE THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD THEY WERE THE APPLICANT YOU GOT IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MANY OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS. OKAY, SO WE HAD A MOTION IN THE SECOND. 
          DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE? I DON'T SEE ANYONE. ALL RIGHT. 
          WITHOUT OBJECTION THIS WILL PASS UP TO $10,000. THE FUNDS WILL COME FROM GREEN SPACE TO DO THE THIRD PARTY REVIEW AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE ADJUSTMENT IN THE JOURNAL SO I CAN GET BACK TO CHARLESTON, SIR. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOODBYE AND THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THIS COMMITTEE CORRECT. 
          [8. PRESENTATION AND CONSIDERATION OF THE ST. HELENA COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL EVENTS CENTER FEASIBILITY STUDY AND MARKET ANALYSIS -Robert Merchant, Director, Planning and Zoning]
OKAY. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO FULL COUNCIL. 
          YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO NEXT WE'RE MOVING TO OUR AGENDA PRESENTATION AND CONSIDERATION OF THE SITTING ON THE COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL EVENT CENTER FEASIBILITY STUDY AND MARKET ANALYSIS FROM MARKETING ARE YOU GOING TO PRESENT AND DO WE HAVE SOMEONE ON ZOOM OR ARE YOU GOING TO PRESENT? YES I BELIEVE OUR THE CONSULTANT JOHNSON CONSULTING IS ON LINE OKAY I SEE AND I WAS GOING TO HAND OFF THE PRESENTATION THEM OKAY AND THIS OF COURSE IS A STUDY THAT WAS THE COUNCIL FUNDED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AND THIS IS THE PRESENTATION FROM THE CONSULTANTS. OKAY AND WE WILL UNLESS THERE'S OBJECTION WE'LL LET THEM PRESENT AND THEN HAVE QUESTIONS. YES. 
          OKAY ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE WON'T INTERRUPT YOU TILL THE END. 
          OKAY, GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU, ROBERT. THANK YOU, COUNSEL MEMBERS REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY. MY NAME IS RYAN JOHNSON WITH JOHNSON CONSULTING AND AS MR. MERCHANT MENTIONED WE WERE HIRED TO DO A FEASIBILITY MARKET STUDY FOR A PROPOSED COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL EVENTS CENTER. 
          SO WE SPENT A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH WE'RE HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL TODAY. SO WITH THAT, JOHN, YOU WANT TO MAYBE ADVANCE THE NEXT SLIDE? YEAH. SO WE REALLY HAVE FIVE TOPICS FOR OUR AGENDA TODAY REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE MARKET ATTRIBUTES OF YOU FOR THE COUNTY AND SAINT HELENA ALSO TO REVIEW THE STAKEHOLDER THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND THE RESULTS AND FINDINGS FROM THAT AND THEN ALSO DEVELOPING FACILITY AND PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN WE ALSO DEVELOP DEMAND AND FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS AND THEN ALSO HAVE OUTLINED SOME NEXT STEPS FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          SO JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE SOME OF THE PROCESS PROCESSES THAT WE WENT THROUGH? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THE CHART ON THE RIGHT OF MY SCREEN I ASSUME IT'S THE RIGHT ON YOUR SCREEN AS WELL KIND OF GIVES IT A LITTLE BIT OF A SENSE OF THE THE APPROACH THAT WE TOOK TO THIS ASSIGNMENT. SO WE STARTED WITH REALLY THREE DATA GATHERING INITIATIVES ONE BEING A MARKET ANALYSIS, THE SECOND BEING AN ENGAGEMENT OF SOME KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND THE THIRD BEING LOOKING AT SOME COMPARABLE CASE STUDIES AND. YOU KNOW, BASED OFF OF THAT DATA WE SORT OF SYNTHESIZE INTO SOME STRATEGIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT WE SAW AS THE OPPORTUNITY ON SECOND ISLAND AND ALSO WHAT WE HEARD IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY NEEDS AND DESIRES ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND FOR ART SPACE AND URBAN SPACE. THEN FROM THAT RECOMMENDATION AND BASED OFF OF OTHER COMPARABLE PROJECTS WE'VE WORKED ON WE DEVELOPED SOME OPERATING PROJECTIONS ESTIMATES OF FINANCIAL IMPACT AND THEN SOME SOME STRATEGIES FOR FUNDING AND MARKETING THE PROJECT ITSELF. SO WE PUBLISHED ALL IN FULL REPORT AND TODAY OUR GOAL IS REALLY TO KEEP IT FAIRLY HIGH LEVEL AND KIND OF TOUCH ON SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM FROM REPORT BUT THAT DOCUMENT DOES OUTLINE OUR FULL FINDINGS PROCESS SO KIND OF GETTING UNDERWAY HERE STARTING WITH THE MARKET ATTRIBUTES. 
          YOU KNOW I THINK WHAT WE REALLY SAW AS WE VISITED THE MARKET AND LOOKED AT IT FROM A DATA PERSPECTIVE IS THAT YOU KNOW, THE REGION HAS A LOT OF RESOURCES LOOKING IN DUPAGE COUNTY SPECIFICALLY BUT ALSO MORE BROADLY THAT CAROLINA REGION DOES HAVE, YOU KNOW, A STRONG RESOURCE BUT ST HELENA ISLAND ITSELF HAS BEEN KIND OF LEFT OUT OF THAT. 
          YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE METRICS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD INCOME YOU KNOW, HOUSEHOLD INCOME GROWTH IT'S NOT NECESSARILY KEEPING UP WITH WHAT WE SEE KIND OF REGIONALLY. 
          YOU KNOW. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE REGIONAL WEALTH MEANS THAT YOU KNOW, ON THE ISLAND ITSELF FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE THERE IS AN 
          [00:40:01]
OPPORTUNITY TO CAPTURE SPENDING FROM TOURISTS OR FOR WEALTHIER RESIDENTS IN THE REGION. 
          AND YOU KNOW, REALLY THE UPSHOT OF ALL OF THAT IS THAT TO CAPTURE WE SEE, YOU KNOW, SAINT HELENA ITSELF BENEFITING FROM SOME INVESTMENT AND AND ALSO SOME MORE COMMUNITY RESOURCES. 
          SO YOU KNOW, PART OF THE THE IDEA IS YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY BUT ALSO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THAT COMMUNITY WITH WITH SPACE THAT THAT HELPS WITH INITIATIVES THAT ARE ON THE ISLAND. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT THIS FROM AN ARTS PERSPECTIVE, WE LOOKED AT SOME DIFFERENT INDICATORS OF ARTS INTEREST AND REALLY WHAT THE OF THIS TABLE IS THAT THERE IS A CLEAR PERFORMING ARTS INTEREST WITHIN COUNTY AND THAT TO US POINTS TO AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY ON TO SAINT HELENA ISLAND PERFORMING ARTS TYPE ACTIVITIES, CULTURAL ARTS TYPE ACTIVITIES YOU KNOW VISUAL CULINARY KIND OF ACROSS THAT ARTISTIC SPECTRUM AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THE HOTEL MARKET, YOU KNOW THERE'S A STRONG INVENTORY SORT OF WITHIN THE COUNTY OBVIOUSLY WITH HILTON HEAD REPRESENTING A LOT OF THAT INVENTORY. 
          YOU KNOW I THINK ONE PLACE THAT WAS CHALLENGING FROM A FROM A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE IS JUST THAT SAINT HELENA ISLAND ITSELF DOESN'T THAT STRONG HOTEL INVENTORY SO YOU KNOW I THINK AS WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY WAS HOW CAN WE BALANCE THE IDEA OF , YOU KNOW, BRINGING JOBS AND RESOURCES TO THE COMMUNITY BUT NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT IS HOTEL DEPENDENT, TOURISM FOCUSED. RIGHT. 
          AND SO MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SERVING BOTH OF THOSE NEEDS DOING IT RIGHT. 
          YEAH. I THINK ONE OTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT WHO ARE THE DORMITORIES THAT ARE LOCATED AT THE CENTER AND WE DO SEE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS PROPOSED MULTIPURPOSE COMMUNITY CENTER TO REALLY HAVE A LOT OF RETREATS AND THINGS THAT CAN UTILIZE BOTH THE PENN CENTER AS WELL AS THIS PROPOSED PROJECT. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THINGS AND THEN AS AS WE ALLUDED TO WITH REGARDS TO THE HOTEL MARKET YOU KNOW AGAIN THERE'S STRONG INVENTORY BUT MOSTLY WITH THE BEDROOM WITHIN HILTON HEAD AND NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN SAINT HELENA. SO LOOKING AT A MAP OF THE COUNTY IS THAT HOTEL INVENTORY IS SORT OF NOT NOT NECESSARILY ON THE ISLAND AND MOST OF THAT INVENTORY IS IS ON THE UPSCALE SIDE AND KIND OF THE VERY ROBUST TOURISM INDUSTRY CERTAINLY THAT WE SEE ON HILTON ISLAND. YOU CAN SEE THE CLUSTER OF HOTELS THERE AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT SORT OF REGIONAL PERFORMING ARTS CENTERS AND I THINK WHAT WAS INTERESTING FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IS YOU THOUGH THERE ARE A FEW PERFORMING ARTS TYPE FACILITIES WITHIN COUNTY YOU KNOW MOST OF THE REGIONAL CENTERS WITHIN TWO HOUR DRIVE ARE IN THE SAVANNAH OR THE CHARLESTON AND WITHIN THE COUNTY ITSELF. IT'S REALLY THE U.S. VIEW CENTER FOR THE ARTS SERVING THAT THAT NORTH BEAUFORT COMMUNITY FROM PERFORMING ARTS AND ARTS PERSPECTIVE AND YOU KNOW I THINK WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT MOST OF THOSE THOSE CLUSTERS OF PERFORMING ARTS CENTERS IN SAVANNAH AND IS THAT THE PROXIMITY OF THOSE MARKETS TO BEAUFORT COUNTY AND SAINT HELENA ISLAND COULD POTENTIALLY LEAD TO SOME POOR CONFLICT. 
          SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT PUTTING A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER WITHIN COUNTY, IF THE GOAL IS TO CAPTURE A TOURING ARTIST TO CHARLESTON AND THEN COUNTY AND HIT SAVANNAH OFTEN THEY'RE SIGNING THOSE ARTISTS SIGNING SORT OF A DOCUMENT THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IF I PLAY IN CHARLESTON CANNOT PLAY WITHIN 100 MILES OF CHARLESTON FOR SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR. 
          AND SO IT CAN BE DIFFICULT FOR SOME MARKETS WITHIN THE MIDDLE OF SOME LARGER MARKET SOMETIMES TO CAPTURE THOSE ARTISTS BECAUSE OFTEN THE ARTISTS WOULD RATHER I'LL JUST PLAY SAVANNAH AND THEN I'LL PLAY CHARLESTON AND YOU KNOW I'LL RELY PEOPLE FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY COMING AND SEEING ME IN ONE OF THOSE MARKETS RATHER THAN COMING TO THEM. 
          AND SO THAT IS SOME, YOU KNOW, A THREAT OR CHALLENGE THAT WE SEE POSSIBLY WITH WITH REGARDS TO THE IDEA OF BRINGING IN MORE TOURING TYPE PERFORMING ARTS. AND I THINK TOO IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT ON THE PRIOR SLIDE THERE WAS A MENTION OF THE FACILITY AT UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH BEAUFORT AND REALLY YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THEY DO AND THE TYPES OF PERFORMANCE AND ACTIVITY THAT THEY PUT ON AND THEN WHAT OTHER AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY ARE THERE IN THE MARKETPLACE FOR OTHER EVENTS AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES IN OUR ANALYTICAL PROCESS TO REALLY THINK ABOUT MORE THAN JUST PERFORMING ARTS BUT REALLY FOCUSING ON A BROADER RANGE OF EVENT TYPES THAT WILL GO THROUGH AS WE GO GO INTO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN YOU KNOW FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF LOOKING AT TOURISM ASSETS AND WE LOOKED AT SOME THE THE TOURISM ASSETS ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND I THINK PENN CENTER IS THE MOST SORT OF OBVIOUS ONE AS BEING A SIGNIFICANT TOURISM DRAW AND I THINK ESPECIALLY 
          [00:45:03]
WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE'S RECENT DESIGNATION OF SAINT HELENA AS PART OF THAT HISTORIC CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO PACKAGE THESE ASSETS TOGETHER AND TELL THE STORY OF THE PEOPLE AND THE HISTORY SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ABOUT WHEN WE WERE COMING TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IS HOW CAN WE WE COMPLEMENT AND ENHANCE THESE EXISTING ASSETS SUCH THAT IT'S KIND UPLIFTING THIS THIS TOURISM COMMUNITY IN GENERAL AND THEN WE ALSO DID GO THROUGH A STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WHICH INCLUDED SOME IN-PERSON, YOU KNOW, REMOTE MEETINGS AS WELL AS A COMMUNITY SURVEY AND. YOU KNOW, THIS PROCESS KIND OF IS OUTLINED ON THE CHART TO THE RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW, AGAIN, KEY STAKEHOLDERS POTENTIAL PARTNERS AND THEN A PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE AND WE HAD THOSE WORKING SESSIONS INDIVIDUAL INTERVIEWS AND THE COMMUNITY SURVEY AND YOU KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM THAT PROCESS IS THAT AGAIN WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICES DESIGNATION OF THE PENN CENTER AS AS OF THAT NATIONAL PART, YOU KNOW, THERE'S INCREASING RECOGNITION OF SAINT PAUL THIS CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE AND INCREASING NATIONAL PROFILE AND AWARENESS AND YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORKING WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR A NEW FACILITY ON THE ISLAND TO KIND OF HELP ENHANCE THAT, PRESERVE AND SHARE THE CULTURE OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND AS WELL AS THE GOAL BEACH COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOOKING AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, SOMETHING WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR IS THAT, YOU KNOW, MULTIPURPOSE SPACE ON THE ISLAND IS REALLY NEEDED FOR ALL SORTS OF ACTIVITIES. YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT THAT EVENT SPACE AND WE'LL GET TO SOME OF THOSE BACK DEMAND LAYERS BUT YOUTH PROGRAMING, ARTS PROGRAMING, CAMPS AFTER SCHOOL CARE, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMING AND AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SORT OF POTENTIAL FOR SOME SOME PARTNERSHIPS WITH THAT MULTIPURPOSE SPACE AND SOME LOCAL ARTS ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL. SO I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO SEE THIS SPACE REALLY PROGRAM VERY HEAVILY AND AND YOU KNOW BUILDING A COALITION AMONG LARGE GROUPS I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT WAY TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK FROM A TOURISM PERSPECTIVE AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGE OF THE PROJECT IS JUST GOING TO BE THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND TO SUPPORT TOURISM. SO I THINK AGAIN ORIENTING IT SUCH THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO BRING IN ATTENDEES FOR EVENTS HERE AND BRING IN EVENTS THEMSELVES BUT NOT NECESSARILY YOU KNOW HAVE TO HAVE THEM STAY OVERNIGHT I THINK IS THE IS THE YOU KNOW, THE BALANCE THAT HAS TO BE STRUCK. YOU KNOW, I THINK DESPITE THE OVERALL THERE WAS A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THE FACILITY IN TERMS OF ITS OPPORTUNITIES TO SHOWCASE THE HISTORY OF THE ISLAND SERVE AS A COMMUNITY OF ASSETS AS WELL AS STIMULATE SOME ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND CREATE JOBS AND SO FORTH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THAT ALL KIND OF BRINGS US TO OUR OUR AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING IN TERMS OF A RECOMMENDED PROGRAM AND I THINK IT'S TO THINK INITIALLY WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS FACILITY THE FIRST THOUGHT WAS PERFORMING ARTS CENTER BUT REALLY THE SCOPE KIND OF BEEN EXPANDED TO THIS COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL EVENTS CENTER AND I THINK THE GOAL OF THAT IS TO ENCOMPASS BOTH THE ARTS BUT YOU KNOW MULTIPURPOSE EVENTS SUCH AS SMALLER CONFERENCES, SOCIAL EVENTS, GATHERINGS BANQUETS THAT SORT OF THING AS WELL AS EDUCATIONAL EVENTS AND PROGRAMING FOR YOUTH AND ADULTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND SO TO MEET ALL OF THOSE NEEDS. WE TRIED TO RECOMMEND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REALLY FLEXIBLE SO YOU KNOW ABOUT 7500 SQUARE FOOT MULTIPURPOSE POTENTIALLY DIVISIBLE INTO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SPACES WITH WALLS AND THEN SOME MEETING SPACE TO SUPPORT THAT FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT 8500 SQUARE FEET OF FUNCTION SPACE AND THEN SUPPORT SPACES AROUND THAT AS WELL. SO ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, YOU KNOW A PANTRY KITCHEN SO NOT A FULL SERVICE KITCHEN BUT ONE THAT COULD SUPPORT PREP FOR SMALLER EVENTS AND THEN ALSO BACK OF CIRCULATION STORAGE SPACES. 
          SO YOU KNOW OVERALL ABOUT 13,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS WHAT WE WOULD SEE THIS COMING TO SO YOU KNOW A SMALL FACILITY BUT ONE WITH A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY AND LOT OF POTENTIAL TO SERVE MANY DIFFERENT NEEDS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND JUST FOR A FRAME OF REFERENCE THAT MULTIPURPOSE HALL IN 7500 SQUARE FEET IF YOU'RE HAVING THEATER TYPE OF EVENT THAT WOULD GIVE YOU ABOUT A CAPACITY OF 400 PEOPLE THAT IS SEATED MEAL FUNCTION FOR A SOCIAL SOCIAL EVENT WOULD PROBABLY BE A YOU KNOW THAT 200 TO 300 PERSON TYPE CAPACITY YEAH AND I THINK WHAT WE REALLY HEARD IS THAT THOSE SIZES OF EVENTS THERE REALLY A PLACE TO SUPPORT THEM CURRENTLY ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND THAT WAS REALLY WHAT WHAT YOU KNOW RANG OUT FROM BOTH OF OUR YOU KNOW OUR YOU KNOW DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE SURVEYS . YOU KNOW FOLKS ARE NOT HOLDING 
          [00:50:05]
THESE EVENTS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY OR THEY'RE GOING OFF THE ISLAND TO DO THESE EVENTS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THE ISLAND ITSELF AND THEN LOOKING AT SOME DEMAND THAT WE WOULD SEE FOR PROGRAMING AND I THINK WE BUILT THIS SUCH THAT YOU KNOW BASE THAT BIGGEST ONE IS SORT OF THE BASE OF THE DEMAND AND THEN YOU'RE YOU'RE IN THE DEMAND PUZZLE, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT FROM THERE. SO STARTING AT THE BOTTOM THE SMURF MARKET IS A TERM THE EVENT INDUSTRY THAT WE USE WHICH IS AN ACRONYM FOR SOCIAL MILITARY EDUCATION, RELIGIOUS, FRATERNAL AND ETHNIC. SO IT'S SORT OF A WIDE SWATH BUT IT'S NOT CORPORATE EVENTS NECESSARILY. IT'S MORE YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF YOUR WORK YOU KNOW YOU HAVE SOCIAL EVENTS OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU BELONG TO AS A MEMBER AND AND THEY NEED EVENT SPACE TO GATHER FOR BANQUETS OR GALAS FOR AWARDS CEREMONIES THINGS SUCH AS THAT NATURE AND THEN BUILDING ON THAT, YOU KNOW, MUSIC ARTS PERFORMANCES AND EVENTS THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A STRONG ARTS CULTURE, THE COMMUNITY AND CERTAINLY ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND SO YOU KNOW OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THAT THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS AS WELL AS YOU KNOW TOURING GROUPS, SPOKEN WORD ARTISTS SPEAKER SERIES THAT SORT OF THING AND BRINGING THOSE INTO SPACE RETREATS AND CONFERENCES SO CORPORATE ASSOCIATION GOVERNMENT INTERSTATE ASSOCIATION THERE ARE EVEN REGIONAL ASSOCIATIONS NEED SPACES ABOUT THIS SIZE MEET FOR THEIR ANNUAL MEETING AND AND I THINK ENTERING THE MARKET WITH A NEW PRODUCT REALLY PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO CAPTURE ASSOCIATIONS AND SAY HEY YOU'VE NEVER BEEN HERE BEFORE. YOU KNOW YOU MIGHT SOME SOME FOLKS IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO ARE IN YOUR ASSOCIATION AND NOW YOU'RE GETTING TO COME TO THEM AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, SEE NEW NEW AREA OF THE STATE OR OF THE REGION AND THEN ACADEMIC AND COMMUNITY EVENTS. 
          SO AGAIN THAT THAT ONGOING EDUCATION FOR ADULTS YOU KNOW ARTS EDUCATION FOR OUR CHILDREN AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE IN SAINT ON THE ISLAND TALKED ABOUT VISUAL ARTS PERFORMING ARTS, CULINARY ARTS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S REALLY A I THINK A DESIRE FOR THAT TO BE A REALLY BROAD WORD THE ARTS RIGHT EXTENSION CLASSES A POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP WITH USC BEAUFORT IN THAT REGARD A COMMUNITY MEETINGS. RIGHT. 
          SO YOU KNOW IF THERE IS SORT OF A PUBLIC FORUM THAT NEEDS TO BE HELD THIS WOULD BE A PERFECT LOCATION FOR THAT SORT OF THING AS WELL AND THEN OTHERS TO BE IDENTIFIED AND I THINK THAT'S YOU KNOW, AS THIS PROJECT GETS DEVELOPED AND BUILT FURTHER OUT, I THINK MORE OPPORTUNITIES WILL SORT ARISE AND APPEAR AS YOU KNOW ACTUALLY THIS WOULD BE A GREAT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT EVENT TO GO IN HERE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE CURRENTLY WE'RE HOLDING IT IN SAVANNAH BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. SO I THINK YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S SORT OF THAT LAST DEMAND LAYER THAT WILL KIND OF FILL IN THOSE LAST FEW GAPS. 
          AND SO THEN BUILDING OFF OF THAT RECOMMENDATION SET SO BOTH THE FACILITY SIDE AND THE DEMAND WE CAME UP WITH SOME PROJECTIONS AND SO TYPICALLY WITH OUR PROJECTIONS WE LOOK AT YEAR FIVE IS ABOUT THE YEAR OF STABILIZATION. SO WHEN YOU REALLY ESTABLISHED FACILITY WITHIN A MARKET AND AFTER THAT GROWTH IS BECOMES A LOT MORE INCREMENTAL AND SO YOU KNOW I THINK WHAT WE LOOKED AT TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT IT FROM A PROJECTION STANDPOINT IS WE LOOKED AT NONPROFIT EVENTS SO THOSE ACADEMIC AND COMMUNITY EVENTS WHERE YOU KNOW THE GOAL OF THOSE REALLY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND AND IN THE SAME WAY THAT YOU DON'T EXPECT THE LIBRARY TO MAKE A PROFIT YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT THESE EVENTS TO MAKE A PROFIT BECAUSE THEY'RE COMMUNITY WELL-BEING KIND OF RESOURCES AND THEN YOU KNOW DISTINGUISHING THOSE FROM FOR PROFIT EVENTS WHICH ARE STILL SERVING THE COMMUNITY BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE TRYING TO RECEIVE AMOUNT OF REVENUE FROM THOSE AND THAT'S THE MUSIC AND CULTURAL PERFORMANCES THOSE EVENTS RENTALS FOR RICH PRINTS AND CONFERENCES AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER EVENTS AS WELL. 
          AND IN TOTAL IN THAT YEAR FIVE STABILIZATION IN YEAR YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 100 EVENTS WITH 80% OF THOSE BEING THE FOR PROFIT AND 20% BEING THE NONPROFIT AND THEN IN TERMS OF ATTENDANCE, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AT STABILIZATION IS ABOUT 11,600 ATTENDEES TO THOSE EVENTS TOTAL. SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE SPLIT WORKS OUT BUT AGAIN YOU KNOW I THINK THIS PROGRAM STRATEGY WOULD BE DEVELOPED FURTHER AS AS PARTNERS FOR THE PROJECT ARE KIND OF IDENTIFIED AND WE'LL GET TO THAT A LITTLE BIT THE NEXT STEPS AND THEN LOOKING AT THIS FROM A FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS STANDPOINT I THINK IN TERMS OF REVENUE ON A STABILIZED YEAR LOOKING ABOUT 450 TO $500000 A YEAR OF REVENUE AND THEN THE OPERATING EXPENSES OUT TO ABOUT $730,000. 
          SO THAT KIND OF A DEFICIT FOR THE FACILITY AT ABOUT $256,000 OF NET LOSS. 
          AND THEN AFTER WE LOOK AT A RESERVE REPLACEMENT WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY PUTTING A CERTAIN PROPORTION ANNUAL REVENUES INTO A FUND FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT TOTAL NOI COMES OUT TO 
          [00:55:05]
ABOUT A LOSS OF $270,000. BUT YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO CONTEXTUALIZE PROJECTIONS BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS A COMMUNITY ASSET AND SO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT IN THE SAME WAY THAT SOMEBODY WOULD LOOK AT HOTEL OR THE SAME WAY THAT SOMEBODY WOULD LOOK AT RESTAURANT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE GOAL IS BOTH TO GENERATE SOME REVENUE, ALSO SERVE AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICE SPACE FOR ARTS AND EVENTS AND AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL. SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S I THINK ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT IS YOU KNOW, ONCE LIKE I SAID, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY EXPECT THE LIBRARY TO TURN A PROFIT BUT HAS BENEFITS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY FINANCIAL AND I ONE OTHER IMPORTANT PIECE FOR CONTEXT HERE IS THIS IS REALLY FOR OPERATING SUPPORT REQUIREMENTS THIS DOES NOT THE COST OF CAPITAL TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE FACILITY. 
          SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS OF THIS SCALE YOU KNOW, WOULD BE A RELATIVELY EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION TO BUILD SO THAT ALSO IS PART OF THE FUNDING STRATEGY THAT NEEDS BE DEVELOPED IF YOU KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY DESIRES TO INVEST IN AND THEN YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT SORT OF THE THROW UP BENEFITS OF IT . 
          OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THEM CAN'T BE QUANTIFIED IN TERMS OF EDUCATION FOR YOUTH, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMING, ONGOING EDUCATION FOR ADULTS AND AND THE SORT OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT COMPONENTS OF THAT. BUT SOME OF IT CAN BE QUANTIFIED. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IN TERMS OF AN ECONOMIC AND FISCAL IMPACT ESTIMATE. 
          AND SO REALLY WHAT THIS IS LOOKING AT IS IF WE HAVE EVENTS HERE AND THEY THEY BRING FOLKS ON TO SAINT HELENA ISLAND, THOSE FOLKS ARE GOING TO SPEND BOTH AT THE FACILITY ITSELF AND THAT'S CREATING JOBS BY HAVING PEOPLE EMPLOYED TO RUN THOSE EVENTS BUT ALSO THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND IN OTHER PLACES NEARBY WHETHER IT'S RESTAURANTS OR SHOPS OR VENDORS THAT SORT OF THING AND AND THAT'S CREATING JOBS ITSELF. AND SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM OUR PROJECTIONS IN TERMS OF TOTAL SALES VOLUME AND THIS IS LOOKING AT A COUNTY WIDE ESTIMATE BUT REALLY FOCUSED ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND IS THAT YOU KNOW, IN TOTAL IN YEAR FIVE WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ESTIMATED TOTAL SPENDING OF ABOUT $3 MILLION OCCURRING BOTH AT THE FACILITY ITSELF AND THEN INDIRECT AND INDUCED AROUND THE FACILITY BASED FOLKS COMING IN AND AND SPENDING ELSEWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WOULD SUPPORT ABOUT 23 FULL TIME JOBS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS STARTING IN YEAR FIVE GROWING TO 2526 IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS RIGHT AND GENERATING ABOUT $143,000 IN TAX REVENUES FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THAT'S MOSTLY SALES TAX BUT ALSO SOME AMOUNT OF HOTEL TAX. WELL SO AGAIN NOT A HUGE HOTEL IMPACT THAT WE'RE PROJECTING OUT OF THIS BUDGET BUT CERTAINLY SOME IMPACT AND I THINK THAT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS WELL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FUNDING AND SORT OF THE ONGOING SUPPORT NEEDS OF LIKE THIS AND THEN FINALLY, YOU KNOW LOOKING AT SOME NEXT STEPS HERE THIS IS THE FEASIBILITY PHASE. SO THIS IS REALLY STEP VERY ONE OF A PROCESS THAT IS GOING TO OCCUR OVER MANY MORE MONTHS OR EVEN YEARS TO SHAPE THIS INTO THE FACILITY THAT'S OPTIMAL FOR FOR THE ISLAND AND FOR THE ISLAND'S COMMUNITY AND I THINK YOU KNOW, STEP ONE IN THAT NEXT STEPS IS AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE IDENTIFYING PROJECT PARTNERS AND CHAMPIONS. SO YOU KNOW, WITH A FACILITY LIKE THIS THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A STRONG REVENUE CASE TO BE MADE FOR BUT THERE IS A STRONG SORT OF COMMUNITY CASE. YOU KNOW, WE SEE A LOT OF THE THAT THEY'RE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL WHEN YOU HAVE A GROUP OF FOLKS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WHETHER THAT'S WITHIN OR WITHIN ARTS LEADERSHIP WITHIN THE EDUCATION COMMUNITY WHO SEE A VISION OF THE OPPORTUNITY ASSOCIATED THE PROJECT TO BECOME CHAMPIONS FOR IT AND START BUILDING COALITIONS, DIFFERENT GROUPS, YOU KNOW, FUNDRAISING AND TRYING TO SECURE GRANTS, CONSTRUCTION AND ONGOING FINANCING AND AND LOOKING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROGRAMING FACILITIES. SO IDENTIFYING THOSE PARTNERS CHAMPIONS I THINK IS GOING TO BE REALLY KEY TO CARRYING THIS THROUGH THE NEXT STEP. YOU KNOW FROM THERE DEFINING A FUNDING STRATEGY KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO COUNTY FROM A FUNDING WE COVERED A LOT OF THOSE IN THE REPORT. A LOT OF THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THEM FROM PUBLIC FINANCING PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF BONDS, IN TERMS OF DIFFERENT TAX REVENUES THAT CAN BE PUT TO IT. 
          BUT SOME OF THE MORE CREATIVE ONES THAT WE'VE IN PROJECTS LIKE THIS ARE MONIES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHETHER THAT'S THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS OR OTHER SORT OF ARTS GRANT PROGRAMS OR GIVEN SAINT ELMO'S COASTAL NATURE YOU KNOW FEMALE IS OFTEN LOOKING FOR TO USE AS STAGING ZONES HURRICANE EVACUATION, DIFFERENT TRAINING OPERATIONS THAT THEY 
          [01:00:06]
RUN. SO JUST BY WAY OF ANECDOTE WE'RE WORKING CURRENTLY IN ORANGE COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA SO NEAR THE MYRTLE BEACH AREA ON A ON A MULTIPURPOSE EVENT SPACE THERE AND THERE'S SOME INTEREST IN IT FROM FEMA AS WELL AS FROM THE LOCAL UTILITY AND USING THE FACILITY TO KIND OF STAGE OPERATIONS FOR FOR DISASTER AND RECOVERY. 
          SO YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE YOU WHERE C GO WITH THIS THAT MAYBE IS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE BOX BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE IDENTIFYING PROJECT PARTNERS NEED IT ONCE A YEAR BUT WHEN THEY DO THEY REALLY NEED IT RIGHT AND WE JUST THOSE MORE IN THE REPORT BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT. SITES SELECTION IS DEFINITELY A KEY PIECE OF THIS. 
          YOU KNOW THERE'S THE THE CORNERS COMMUNITY ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND I THINK IS WHERE WE'VE HEARD THE OF YOU KNOW THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE WOULD WANT AS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR THIS THIS PROJECT BUT FINDING THE RIGHT SITE THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, PROXIMITY TO OTHER NEARBY ASSETS ACCESSIBILITY ROAD AND ALSO MAYBE EVEN BY PEDESTRIAN IS CRITICAL AS WELL AS SORT OF SITE BEAUTY AND IN SHOWING OFF THE NATURAL OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND THEN FROM THERE YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN BASED ON BOTH THE NEEDS OF THE FACILITY AND THOSE THOSE TENANTS THAT THE FACILITY IS GOING TO HAVE ITS USERS AS WELL AS STAKEHOLDER INPUT. SO MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS HEAVILY ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FACILITIES SERVE THEIR NEEDS AND THEN FINALLY A DETAILED DESIGN AND THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD THEN LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION BUT THIS IS SORT OF AN OUTLINE OF WHAT WE SEE AS PART OF THE NEXT STEPS FROM HERE AND AGAIN THIS BEING THE VERY EARLY STAGE OF WE THINK THAT THERE IS A NEED HERE, THIS IS FEASIBLE AND HERE'S YOU WOULD GO FROM HERE AND SO I'LL PAUSE RIGHT THERE AND THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION WE HAD TO PRESENT TODAY BUT BUT HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AROUND THIS WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH THIS IS A VERY IN-DEPTH STUDY AND A LOT OF INFORMATION IN IT. I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT FOR SOME QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME MAYBE JIM AND BEFORE YOU DO THAT I JUST WANT TO THANK MR. FLEMING AND MR. JOHNSON FOR TWO YEARS OF WORK WITH US. SO SORT OF DELAYED US BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL TIME AND EFFORT YOU PUT INTO THIS AND YES, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. 
          THANK YOU, JOHN. JONAH RYAN, DO HAVE A SPECULATIVE COST FOR SUCH A FACILITY SO WE DO NOT WE HAVE NOT A PART OF OUR SCOPE. WE WERE NOT ASKED TO GO DOWN THERE BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE'VE OUTLINED AND I THINK IN THE CASE STUDIES THAT WE'VE SHARED IN OUR REPORT THERE ARE COSTS FOR SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD WHICH CAN PROVIDE SOME INITIAL INFORMATION ABOUT HOW SIMPLE HOW MUCH SIMILAR FACILITIES COST AND QUESTION THE THREE CASE STUDIES THAT YOU HAD I THOUGHT WERE EXCELLENT. 
          TWO OF THEM ARE IN TOURISM AREAS NAG NAGS HEAD AND NORTH CAROLINA CHEROKEE BUT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH COLQUITT. NOBODY GOES TO COLQUITT UNLESS THEY LIVE THERE ELSE IN THE HEART OF PEANUT COUNTRY IN COTTON COUNTRY WHAT WHAT? BUT THE COSTS SEEM PRETTY RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER IS A I WAS SURPRISED THAT THE TWO THAT ARE KIND OF CENTERS OF TOURISM HAD NOT TURNED A PROFIT YET DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT YEAH I DO SO A LOT OF TIMES PUBLIC FACILITIES AND JOHN MENTIONED THIS A FEW TIMES YOU KNOW, REALLY REPRESENT A RESOURCE FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THE YOU KNOW, THE TO ACTUALLY RUN THESE BUILDINGS FROM A DAY DATE PERSPECTIVE IS GREATER THAN THE REVENUES THAT THEY'RE ABLE BRING IN. AND YOU KNOW, IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS THE AMOUNT WANT TO CHARGE FOR THINGS LIKE RENT FOR YOU KNOW A NONPROFIT RENTAL RATE OR A FOR PROFIT RENTAL RATE AND THE FREQUENCY THAT WHICH YOU ALLOW THOSE AND ALSO YOU KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GET A COMMISSION ANY FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPERATIONS THAT HAPPEN SO THERE IS A WAY MAKE THEM FINANCIALLY PERFORM BETTER BUT WE MADE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE'VE UTILIZED AND SEEN FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT YOU KNOW IS A BALANCE BETWEEN THAT FOR PROFIT MODEL AS WELL AS SUPPORTING NONPROFIT AND CULTURAL NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD SAY PERFECT A PERFECT ANALOGY FOR IT IN MY MIND IS IF YOU THINK ABOUT ONE EVENT OF SPACE THAT A LOT OF US HAVE BEEN TO USED IS A WEDDING VENUE. RIGHT. 
          AND WEDDING VENUES TEND TO BE PRIVATELY AND AND THUS ARE MAKING PROFIT BUT EVERYTHING A WEDDING VENUE COSTS EXTRA AND THERE AREN'T A WHOLE LOT OF DISCOUNTS AVAILABLE. 
          YOU KNOW YOU COULD RUN ONE OF THESE THINGS AKIN TO A WEDDING WHERE THE GOAL IS TO 
          [01:05:04]
MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU POSSIBLY OFF OF IT. BUT THE RESULT OF THAT IS MAYBE THAT, YOU KNOW, A YOU'RE MAYBE FOREGOING SOME OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT COMPONENT OF IT AND B OR MAYBE NOT ALLOWING IT TO BE AS ACCESSIBLE TO SOME OF THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE HOPING TO SERVE. SO IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN LOOKING AT BOTH OF THOSE GOALS AND HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU WEIGH THEM AND THAT EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT IN EVERY PROJECT IS DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE NEEDS AND GOALS ARE BUT ANY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE SOME OH I THINK COUNCILMAN THANK YOU. SO I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR SWOT ANALYSIS ON PAGE 2034 OF OUR PACKET AND IT CLEARLY OUTLINES SOME OF THE THREATS AND WEAKNESSES AND MY I WAS NOT ON COUNCIL WHEN THIS STUDY WAS COMMISSIONED HOWEVER WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM PEOPLE REPEATEDLY AT COUNCIL THAT THEY WOULD LIKE A RECREATION CENTER THIS IN NO WAY IS I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FLEXIBLE SPACE BUT WHEN I THINK OF A REC CENTER I THINK OF BASKETBALL COURTS COURTS I DON'T THINK OF 7500 FEES SQUARE FEET OF FLEXIBLE ROOM THAT'S NOT GOING TO SERVE THE YOUTH OF SAINT HELENA WHICH WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING SO I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT AS WAS NOT HERE WHEN THIS WAS COMMISSIONED BUT THAT'S JUST MY TAKE AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR SWAT THE THREATS ARE VERY REAL. YOU MENTIONED ATTRACTING ADS FROM CHARLESTON AND SAVANNAH AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE SUN CITY WE GRABBED THEM BETWEEN THE TWO. THIS IS A REAL ISSUE AND FAILURE TO DRAW PEOPLE FROM HILTON HEAD AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COUNT AS TOURISTS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT 50 MILES AWAY SO YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT TAX HERE. THERE ARE SOME REAL THREATS AND WEAKNESSES. SO I JUST WANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT A REC CENTER THAT IS NOT THIS I'M CLEAR AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT IS NOT THIS REC CENTER BASICALLY IS JUST THAT A REC CENTER THIS IS MORE OR LESS FOCUSING ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY HALL IN THE COMMUNITY NOT NECESSARILY A REC CENTER. SO THE DIFFERENCE IS YEAH WHICH IS WHICH IS THE BIGGER NEED THAT'S MY THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          RIGHT BUT DON'T DON'T CONFUSE THE TWO. NO, I THINK YOU NEED TO DEFINE WHICH ONE IS GREATER AT THIS TIME AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I AM HERE I'M JUST QUESTIONING WHICH ONE IS THE GREATER NEED FOR THAT COMMUNITY OR GREATER WANT I GUESS I WOULD SAY YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN BROWN, I THINK THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. HOW IS THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT PAGE 83 FOR THE FIRST TEN YEARS IT'S A NEGATIVE THREE $800,000 ALL THE WAY $228,000. SO WHO'S GOING TO PICK UP ALL THE NEGATIVE REVENUE? WHO'S GOING TO COVER THAT? THAT'S MY QUESTION. WHO IS GOING TO COVER THE NEGATIVE CASH FLOW? SO THERE'S A COUPLE STRATEGIES AROUND THAT YOU KNOW AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FROM THE GENERAL FUND. IT CAN BE YOU KNOW, AS JOHN MENTIONED, THERE'S A LOT OF BRAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS SO THAT'S A REAL KEY RESOURCE THAT WE UTILIZE. WE UTILIZE AND THEN ALSO YOU KNOW DEVELOPING A FOUNDATION, GETTING CREATIVE YOU KNOW FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES TO PROVIDE SUPPORT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO COVER THOSE OPERATING COSTS AND OVERRUNS ARE TYPICALLY HOW WE WOULD SEE THOSE ADDRESSED. SO I THINK CREATING A NONPROFIT FOUNDATION AND THEN HAVING YOU KNOW SUPPORTERS AND FUNDRAISING TO HELP AMELIORATE THE NEGATIVE OPERATING INCOME WOULD BE SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY UTILIZE. 
          ANOTHER ONE THAT WE SEE A LOT IS IS WE WORKED A LOT WITH FAIRGROUNDS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND YOU KNOW WITH FAIRGROUNDS THEY ARE BEST KNOWN FOR THE ANNUAL FAIR WHETHER IT'S A COUNTY FAIR OR A STATE FAIR. BUT YOU KNOW YEAR ROUND THERE'S ALL SORTS OF AGRICULTURAL EVENTS GOING ON THERE WHETHER THAT'S QUESTION OR A LOT OF FORAGE AGE EDUCATION EVENTS ETC. IN A LOT OF CASES FAIRGROUNDS LOSE MONEY ON EVERYTHING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR EXCEPT FOR THE ANNUAL FAIR AND THEY MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ON THE ANNUAL FAIR THAT HELPS BALANCE THEIR BOOKS. SO YOU KNOW, FESTIVAL IZATION IS SORT OF THE NAME FOR THAT BUT IT'S WHERE YOU KNOW YOU LOOK TO YOU KNOW THIS IS A COMMUNITY RESOURCE 350 DAYS OF THE YEAR BUT FOR TWO WEEKS OUT OF THE YEAR WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN ON A LARGE EVENT AND THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO SORT OF APPROACH THAT REVENUE MODEL AND. 
          THEN THE LAST POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WE INCLUDED AS PART OF OUR WORK. WE REALLY LOOK AT THAT AS A RETURN ON INVESTMENT 
          [01:10:04]
CALCULATION SO NOT FOR THIS FACILITY NONE OF THAT ACTIVITY OR SPENDING WOULD BE HAPPENING ON SETON HALL ISLAND OR IN BEAUFORT MONEY. SO THAT'S HOW WE REALLY MEASURE THE FINANCIAL AND VISITATION IMPACT THAT A PROJECT LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE. 
          OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE QUESTION WERE THE MORE COMMENT THE ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE LOOK AT SAINT HELENA IT'S A VERY CULTURAL COMMUNITY AND WITH PENN CENTER THAT'S THERE FOR YEARS HAS BEEN PROVIDING THAT CULTURAL ASPECT THERE OTHER AVENUES THAT ARE HAPPENING ON SEA HOLD AT THIS TIME. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS WAS ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATION BECAUSE . 
          I KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A HOTEL SO YOU KNOW AND PEOPLE WHEN THEY VISIT NEED TO HAVE A PLACE TO BUT THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY TO INVEST AND IT BEING SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY FIND A PLACE TO STAY AND THEY CAN ALSO GENERATE INCOME WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY. THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS TO CENTER LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES BENEFITING FROM DIFFERENT EVENTS, CULTURAL EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT COULD HAPPEN THE CALENDAR AND WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE FOOD CULTURE YOU KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A FOOD CULTURE VENUE THAT WE CAN OTHER THAN THE GULLAH GRUB THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY VISIT. 
          THIS IS ALL IS ACTUALLY EXPANDING ALL OF THAT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SHARE WITH YOU WAS WHICH WAS VERY INTERESTING IS THAT I WAS TOLD THAT IN MICHIGAN THAT WAS ON THE MENU IN MICHIGAN SHRIMP AND GRITS THAT'S A LOCAL CULTURE AND WE ARE NOT BENEFITING FROM THAT HERE AND I THINK THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT TO HAPPEN TO FLOURISH. 
          THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO SEND IT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR THEM TO FURTHER REVIEW AND TO STUDY AND TO BRING BACK RECOMMENDATION TO THIS BODY. 
          AND I THINK AT THAT TIME THIS BODY COULD MAKE THOSE KIND OF DECISION THAT HAVE JUST TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. SO THAT'S MY MOTION THAT I WILL PUT ON THE TABLE TO ACCEPT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          MAY I SAY ONE MORE THING I NEED A SECOND AND ALSO AGAIN OKAY. SO COUNCILMAN DAWSON, I HAD COUNCILMAN BROWN THE WAY WE DEFINE ECONOMIC HERE IN COUNTY IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE WAY THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE COLUMBIA DEFINES IT AND ANYWAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND AND THIS IS JUST TO RECOMMEND THAT WE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. BUT I'M TO ASK FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE LETTER OF SUPPORT NOT BE INCLUDED THAT GOES TO ECONOMIC BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO DILIGENCE ABOUT EVERY ASPECT OF WHAT THE PRESENTATION IS BEFORE WE CAN THE COUNCIL SAY WE NEED TO SUPPORT THAT. I WANT TO SECOND THAT. OKAY WE HAVE A SECOND. 
          YEAH PLEASE COUNCILMAN THE MOTION DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THAT AMENDMENT. 
          CAN WE OKAY. WELL WITHOUT OBJECTION THE AMENDMENT WILL PASS. 
          ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION WHICH WILL JUST WILL BE NOW TO FORWARD IT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WE HAD MOTION IN A SECOND TO THAT OH WITHOUT THE COMMITTEE WILL RECOMMEND THAT IT GO FORWARD FOR ANALYSIS STATED BY COUNTY COUNCIL CHAIRMAN. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD 
          [9. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE (CDC): SECTION 3.1.60 (CONSOLIDATED USE TABLE), 3.3.40 (COMMUNITY CENTER MIXED USE (C4) ZONE STANDARDS), AND 3.3.50 (REGIONAL CENTER MIXED USE (C5) ZONE STANDARDS) TO ALLOW DWELLING: SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNIT IN C4 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE AND C5 REGIONAL CENTER MIXED USE -Robert Merchant, Director, Planning and Zoning]
WORK ON THIS. THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S THE ONE ON THE AGENDA? THE NEXT IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 3.1.603.3.403.3.50 STANDARDS TO ALLOW DWELLINGS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNIT IN 
          [01:15:02]
C FOR NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE IN C FIVE REGIONAL CENTER MIXED USE IT MR. MERCHANT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WE'RE AFTERNOON WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS A REQUESTED TEXT AMENDMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE . THIS INITIATED THE CITIZEN IN COUNTY AND WE HAVE OUR OUR MOST INTENSE DISTRICT C FIVE REGIONAL CENTER MIXED USE BASICALLY KNOW ALLOWS MOST REGIONAL SHOPPING FACILITIES OFFICE SERVICE INDUSTRIES BUT DOES NOT PERMIT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AND THAT'S VERY IN ORDINANCES THE IDEA BEING THAT PRIME LAND FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT YOU DON'T WANT TO YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT LAND IS AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS YOU KNOW TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          THERE IS AN AREA IN NORTHERN VIEW FOR THIS IS NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF 170 AND PARRIS ISLAND GATEWAY OR HIGHWAY OR 21 WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF LOTS AND THERE'S A PATTERN OF I WOULD SAY MORE RURAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE AND THAT THAT PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT THERE WAS THERE BEFORE WE EVEN HAD ZONING IN COUNTY THE PROXIMITY OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FROM A LOCATION STANDPOINT FOR THEM TO BE ZONED COMMERCIAL BUT THERE ARE ACTIVE YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES THERE AND WHAT THE PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM BUILDING HOUSE AND A LOT OF RECORD OR IF THEY WANT TO REPLACE A MOBILE HOME WITH A LARGER MOBILE HOME THEY'RE RUNNING INTO PROBLEMS WITH ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          SO WE RECEIVED THIS REQUEST. WE REFUSED IT THE STAFF AND I COULD GO THROUGH THE THERE'S A SET OF CRITERIA FOR TEXT AMENDMENTS VERY SIMILAR TO MATH AMENDMENTS BUT ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STAFF HAS BROUGHT FORWARD THERE'S DISTRICT CALLED SEE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS OR CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY CENTER MIXED USE I'M SORRY AND THAT DISTRICT ALSO DOES NOT ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AND FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES SINCE THAT'S A LESS INTENSE DISTRICT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THAT TO ALLOW HOUSES WELL IN OUR ANALYSIS OF THE COUNTY IN SOUTHERN BEFORE WE HAVE TWO PRIMARY AREAS WHERE WE ZONED C51 IS THE 278 CORRIDOR THE AREAS THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THESE AND THEN THE OTHER IS PRIMARILY THIS INTERSECTION WITH HIGHWAY 21 PAIR SOUTH AND GATEWAY IN 170 AND THIS CONDITION WAS SMALL LOTS AND RESIDENTIAL HOUSES EXIST ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY IN THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR COUNTY SO THIS WOULDN'T IMPACT THE 278 CORRIDOR YOU KNOW UNLESS SOMEBODY REDEVELOPED WHICH I THINK IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY GIVEN THE THE ECONOMICS AND LAND VALUES OF THE AREA. I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN THE MOTION BECAUSE THE MOTION IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SEVERAL STEPS TO IT AND THIS IS IN COUNCILMAN DAWSON'S DISTRICT. YEAH. YES, SIR. 
          ROB, IF I MIGHT ROB THIS PROPOSAL TO ACTUALLY ALLOW WELL WELL LET ME PHRASE IT THIS WAY THIS THIS REQUEST ACTUALLY IS ASKING TO ALLOW THE C5 DISTRICT PUT HOMES THAT HAVE WHAT'S THE ADDITIONAL UNIT CALLED THE HOUSE AND THEN THE SECOND UNIT. YEAH YOU WOULD YOU WOULD PERMIT A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE AND THEN IN ADDITION ACCESSORY DWELLING AND ACCESSORY DWELLING. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IF WE IF WE APPROVE THIS RECOMMENDATION THEN THIS PROPOSAL IS COMING FROM A I HAD WITH THE DEVELOPER WHO ACTUALLY CAME BEFORE US SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WITH A SIMILAR PROPOSAL TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP SOME HOMES OVER IN THE RAMSEY ON THE RAMSEY TRACK OVER BY BATTLE CREEK HIGH SCHOOL, CORRECT? OH WELL THE TWO ARE NOT RELATED BUT THIS THIS CAME FROM SOMEONE OWNS A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY OVER OFF OF OLD JERICHO ROAD NEAR THAT INTERSECTION THAT I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THE LANDS 
          [01:20:04]
RAMSEY FARM THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED TO RURAL. SO THIS WOULD NOT APPLY TO THAT, CORRECT? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO IF WE CHANGE IF WE AMEND THIS ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THE C-5 TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUILD A BUILD THE HOME WITH THE ACCESSORY ACCESSORY BUILDING ONTO IT IS THAT NOT INCREASES IN DENSITY IN THAT C5 DISTRICT . WELL THE IRONY I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THE C5 DISTRICT ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY OF UP TO 18 UNITS PER ACRE. 
          SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PERMITTED IN THE DISTRICT. WHAT IS NOT PERMITTED IS SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES SO IT COULD OVER TIME IN AREA WHERE YOU HAVE A PAIR OF SMALL LOTS RESULT IN MORE BUT THAT WOULD YOU KNOW IF THEY DEVELOPED SINGLE FAMILY IT WOULD BE NOWHERE NEAR THE DENSITY THAT SOMEBODY COULD ALREADY WITH A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT SO IT IS INCREASING DENSITY IS THE CAPABILITY OF INCREASING THE NUMBER OF HOUSES THEY COULD BUILD IT COULD INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. YES. OKAY. 
          THAT'S MY POINT. ALL RIGHT. AND QUESTION YES. 
          I'M LOOKING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED FOR THREE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND YOU'RE RECOMMENDING FOR APPROVAL. THEY WERE SPLIT US. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THEY WERE SPLIT? I THINK IT HAD PRIMARILY TO DO WITH MANY ORDINANCES IN THE MOST INTENSE DISTRICTS DON'T PERMIT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AND PURPOSE BEHIND THAT IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE AREA LOCATIONS OF THE COUNTY WHERE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS REGIONAL COMMERCIAL SO THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DEVELOP REGIONAL COMMERCIAL THERE'S LAND AVAILABLE THIS PARTICULAR AREA THAT THIS WOULD IMPACT THE MOST IS ALREADY SUBDIVIDED INTO SMALL PARCELS. YOU KNOW WE BELIEVE THAT THAT COMMUNITY IS ONLY GOING TO CHANGE INCREMENTALLY AND THIS PROHIBITION ON SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES HAS BEEN A HARDSHIP FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE FOR AS LONG AS WE'VE HAD ZONING IN THAT AREA. 
          SO I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S THE PRIMARY FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT YOU KNOW STAFF STILL I MEAN FROM OUR STANDPOINT WE ARE SEEING PEOPLE COME IN THE OFFICE ASKING FOR CHANGES IN THAT AREA. IT HAD BEEN YOU PROHIBITED FROM FROM YOU KNOW EITHER REPLACING A MOBILE HOME, BUILDING A HOUSE AND A LOT OF RECORD AND SO AND WHAT IMPACT DOES IT HAVE SOUTH OF THE BURNED AREA SOUTH OF THE BROADS LAND OF THE ZONE C FIVE THAT LAND IS ALMOST ALL DEVELOPED ALREADY SO AND THERE ALSO A PATTERN OF LARGER LOTS IT'S A DIFFERENT DYNAMIC WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAT WAS RE ZONED TO A COMMERCIAL YOU HAVE AN AREA THAT IS YOU KNOW OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS BUILD OUT AND YOU KNOW MOST OF THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL LAND HAS THE THE ZONED FOR REGIONAL COMMERCIAL HAS BEEN DEVELOPED. 
          SO THIS IMPACT ON OTHER THAN THIS ONE AREA YES THAT'S OUR ASSESSMENT. 
          CAN'T THIS CHANGE IN IT IS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION NOW YOU SAY IT'S NOT AN ADVERSE EFFECT IN THE SOUTH BUT IF THERE IS AVAILABLE LAND AND YOU COULD PUT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BECAUSE WE MADE THIS AMENDMENT THAT COULD CHANGE THAT PROPERTY, CORRECT? IT COULD. OKAY. YOU KNOW IT'S WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TO 78 CORRIDOR THE CHANCES OF SOMEBODY REDEVELOPING A COMMERCIAL LOT FOR SINGLE FAMILY, THE MARKET JUST DOESN'T SUPPORT THAT KIND OF CHANGE MEAN IT COULD HAPPEN AND WE KNOW FOR TIME WE'VE SEEN SOME CHALLENGES RETAIL IN GENERAL BUT WE ALREADY ALLOW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS AND I THINK IT COUNTS ON RENTS GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. MR. MERCHANT, WHERE TWO QUESTIONS WHERE IN THE SOUTH IS THAT LOCATION THAT MR. PASSMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IN TWO? MR. DAWSON IF I UNDERSTAND THIS EXCHANGE HERE, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA SUPPORT IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. OKAY. 
          HAVE WE LISTEN VALUE WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S DONE AND WHAT WE ALL THINK BUT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA, HOW DO THEY VIEW THIS? WELL, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE 
          [01:25:03]
BUT THE AREA THAT HE'S REFERRING TO I THOUGHT IT WAS ANOTHER PROJECT BUT TWO TO THE CHAIRMAN'S POINT IF WE IF WE MAKE THE ZONING CHANGE TO THE C FIVE AMENDED AS SOUTH THE BROAD AREA THAT YOU JUST DISCUSSED AND BUILT OUT THAT MINISTER'S MAX, IF WE MAKE THIS CHANGE TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE AND ROB IS MENTIONING NOT ONLY DOES IT APPLY THERE BUT IT APPLIES EVERY OTHER SITE THAT WANTS TO BE DEVELOPED WHICH WHICH REFER TO AS THE RAMSEY TRACT WHICH THIS IS NOT THE RAMSEY TRAIN. SO OUR OUR POSITION IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE NORTH AND BROAD BUILT LIKE SOMETHING ABROAD THAT'S NOT WHERE WE WANT . 
          I WOULD JUST BE BASIC AND FIND OUT WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT IN THAT AREA YOU KNOW JUST TO FACTOR THAT INTO WHAT WE PRESENT HERE ALL. RIGHT. 
          COUNCILMAN GLOVER, YOU HAVE A QUESTION. MAKE SURE WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE I SEE A LITTLE DIFFERENT LEE AND IF IF I'M WRONG PLEASE TELL TO GO FROM A C WHICH IS HIGHLY COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL IT'S ALMOST LIKE ZONING. 
          WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THIS CHANGE DOES IS. IT ADDS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE C FIVE DISTRICT AND WHAT IT'S MEANT TO DO IS ADDRESS THOSE AREAS WHERE. THERE'S ALREADY A PATTERN OF SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THERE IS AT THAT YOU KNOW ALONG OLD CHEROKEE ROAD AND SOME OF THOSE SIDE STREETS IN NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF 170 AND PAIR SOUTH AND GATEWAY THEY'RE EXISTING SOME OF THEM ARE LOTS OF TRAILERS ON THEM YEAH AND SO THERE'S ALREADY A DYNAMIC THERE BECAUSE OF THE C FIVE ZONING WE HAVE SEEN SOME WE'RE DEALING WITH OTHER IMPACTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD A NURSERY LOCATE RIGHT NEXT TO A YOU KNOW, A MOBILE HOME THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS. WE'VE HAD LAND ANNEXED INTO THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE AREAS WITH YOU KNOW AND SO IT'S OUR WHAT I BELIEVE WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THAT COMMUNITY IS IF WE MADE THIS CHANGE TO THE C FIVE AT LEAST IT WOULD NOT A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY WANTED TO YOU KNOW BUILD A YOU KNOW THEY HAD A TWO ACRE LOT THEY ONE SUBDIVIDED THE TWO LOTS AND BUILT TWO HOUSES THE TYPE OF THINGS YOU WOULD NORMALLY BE ABLE TO DO IN ANY OTHER DISTRICT THEY CAN'T DO HERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T. SINGLE FAMILY IS NOT A PERMITTED USE. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE COME FROM THE QUESTION? JUST THE POINT IS THIS IS VERY UNIQUE BECAUSE OF THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S CARTE BLANCHE BECAUSE ZONING CHANGE LIKE ANYTHING ELSE HAS TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS PROCEDURE. 
          YES. AND I WILL SAY BECAUSE THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT, I'LL JUST PUT THE CAVEAT IT WILL MEAN THAT LAND AND THE 278 CORRIDOR COULD BE COULD BUILD SINGLE FAMILY IN THE IN OUR ASSESSMENT OF THE MARKET AND THE ACTUALITY OF THAT HAPPENING WE THINK IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY THE OBVIOUS AND BEST VALUE FOR THAT COMMERCIAL AND THERE ARE OTHER RESIDENTIAL USES IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO REDEVELOP RETAIL THERE'S ALSO FAMILY TOWNHOUSES THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES ALREADY IF I MAY I GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION IF WE VOTE TO AMEND THIS ZONING REQUEST TO ALLOW THE C-5 TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE GO TO RESIDENTIAL HOME AND THE ACCESSORY DWELLING. THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT AN INCREASE IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT. 
          IT WILL INCREASE THE DENSITY IT IS A DENSITY INCREASE TO PROPERTIES WHO WHO WE APPLIED TO SEE FIVE ZONING TO WELL I WILL SAY THAT ANY ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES COULD REDEVELOP FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY AS IS THE LAW CURRENTLY STANDS BY RIGHT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GIVING THEM AN OPTION IF THEY SIMPLY WANT TO REMAIN ON THE PROPERTY OR SUBDIVIDE TO BUILD ANOTHER HOUSE THEY CAN DO SOMETHING MORE INCREMENTAL LIKE THAT. 
          SO THE OPTION IS ALREADY THERE WITHIN THIS DISTRICT TO INCREASE DENSITY CC5 IN MULTIFAMILY MULTIFAMILY CAN BE IN C FIVE YES. AS IT STANDS NOW THIS WON'T CHANGE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING YOU KNOW THAT'S OKAY. 
          [01:30:07]
COUNCILMAN DAWSON, ROLL CALL. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE THEM. 
          WE NEED A MOTION AND WE NEED A MOTION. IT CAN BE WELL I'LL I'LL MAKE THE MOTION OKAY. YES I MOVE I MOVE THAT WE DECLINE APPROVE THE ZONING REQUEST OR THE TAX AMENDMENTS FOR THE TAX AMENDMENT. YES I'LL SECOND THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFINE IT ME GO TO PAGE 95 YOU HAVE TO DEFINE TIME WHICH OF THOSE REQUESTS. 
          YEP. IT'S ALL IS 3.1.63.3.4 AND 3.3.5. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THIS ITEM NINE IS CORRECT. OKAY. THERE YOU GO THEN I RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL DISAPPROVE OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR SECTION 3.1.60 CONSOLIDATED USE TABLE ALSO 3.3.40 COMMUNITY CENTER MIXED USE ALSO SEE FOR ZONING STANDARDS AND 3.350 REGIONAL CENTER MIXED USE ALSO C FIVE ZONE STANDARDS TO ALLOW TO ALLOW DWELLINGS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNIT AND C FOR MIXED USE AND C FIVE REGIONAL MIXED USE ZONING OKAY. NOW YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LIST OF THE SEVEN ITEMS. OKAY. I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WELL OKAY I SECONDED AND SO NOW YOU CAN GO YEAH. NOW IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 95 OF THE YES YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE. ALL RIGHT. FIRST OF ALL IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE POLICY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          IT IN CONFLICT WITH ANY PROVISION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE THE CODE OF ORDINANCES IT IS NOT REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS DOES NOT ADDRESS A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE ALL WOULD IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY AMONG USERS AND ENSURE EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COUNTY ALSO IT WOULD NOT RESULT IN A LOGICAL ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THUS WOULD IT WOULD RESULT IN ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WATER AIR NOISE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE, VEGETATION, WETLANDS AND THE NATURAL OF THE ENVIRONMENT. OKAY, WE NEED A SECOND EXECUTIVE. 
          ALL RIGHT, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE ON DIFFICULT QUESTION. 
          YES, SIR FOR DISCUSSION THIS NOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA ONLY YOU CAN FIND ALL OF THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE THIS DESIGNATION. IT WOULD APPLY TO ALL OKAY C4 AND C THIS TIME OF YEAR FROM A RESIDENT OF THAT COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO BUILD A A HOUSE. 
          YES AND WE'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL REQUESTS IN THAT AREA AND WE BELIEVE FROM PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE WHICH IS NOW NOT PERMITTED CORRECT ON THE LAND THEY ALREADY OWN. YES. OKAY. 
          YES. LET'S CLARIFY THAT THEY BUILD A HOUSE OR THEY CAN'T BUILD A HOUSE WITH A DETACHED NO YOU CAN'T THEY CAN'T BUILD A HOUSE. SINGLE FAMILY IS NOT A PERMITTED IN THE C FOR C TYPE DISTRICT SO. THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE AND WE'RE NOT LETTING THEM DO THAT CORRECT. SO WHAT IS THE CAR THAT YOUR DON'T SEE WHAT IS IT WHAT IS THE CAR ZONING NOW BEFORE WE MAKE THIS CHANGE WELL WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE ZONING DISTRICT SO THIS APPLY TO ALL AREAS THAT ARE ZONED C FOR C FIVE BUT THERE'S AN AREA NEAR THE OLD WALMART IT IN IN BURTON WHERE WHILE THEY ARE LOCATED IN A GOOD AREA FOR THE PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY IS RESIDENTIAL SO YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES IN THAT AREA BETTER ZONED C FIVE AND SO THE CURRENT ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO BUILD A HOUSE AND THAT'S WHAT THIS CHANGE IS DESIGNED TO TO ENABLE. SO WHAT ARE THEY LIVING IN NOW? YEAH WELL THEY'RE LIVING HOUSES 
          [01:35:05]
BUT THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR THEY LIKE THEY'VE BUILT A BIGGER OR ANOTHER. 
          YES OR ANOTHER HOUSE. YEAH. YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. YES, I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION. OKAY. I'LL WITHDRAW THE SECOND INTERVIEW. ALL RIGHT. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION CONCERNING THIS TEX AMENDMENT. ANOTHER MOTION IF YOU WANT. YOU KNOW I'LL MAKE IT. 
          I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. MOTIONS MADE BY VICE-CHAIRMAN MCFARLAND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BROWN AND WE NEED TO ■GOTHROUGH THOSE QUESTIONS AGAIN ON PAGE 95 PLEASE. RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. 
          YES. GRANT I MOVE THAT WE GRANT I MOVE THAT WE GRANT DID NOT GRANT THE REQUEST FROM THE TEX AMENDMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS STATE ALL THE SUPPORT YOUR MOTION REQUEST TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE YES MA'AM. OKAY SO I'M SAYING YOU'RE SAYING FOR FOR HIM. OKAY, THAT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S FINE. 
          IS IT OKAY? IT IS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THIS NOT OKAY THANK YOU. 
          IN CONFLICT WITH PROVISIONS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE OR THE CODE OF ORDINANCES IS OR IS IS REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS DOES ADDRESS A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE ZONES IN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE OR IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY AMONG USERS AND ENSURE EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COUNTY WOUND RESORT AND LOGIC AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WOULD NOT RESULT IN AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NATURAL NATURAL ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WATER AIR NOISE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE VEGETATION, WETLANDS AND NATURAL FUNCTIONING OF THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          OKAY THANK YOU. THAT WAS OKAY. WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT ANY WITHOUT OBJECTION. OKAY. WE'LL GO FORWARD WITH THIS. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ALL RIGHT. NUMBER OF THE NEXT ONE IS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. 
          THIS IS YOU AGAIN BE READY. OKAY RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCILMAN ORDINANCE. 
          [10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE 1 (GENERAL PROVISIONS), DIVISION 1.3 (APPLICABILITY AND JURISDICTION), SECTION 1.3.50 (EXEMPTIONS) OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE (CDC) TO PROVIDE EXEMPTIONS TO ADDRESS COUNTY PUBLIC SERVICES USES -Robert Merchant, Director, Planning and Zoning]
WE NEED TO MOVE IT ALONG BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME BUT THIS ALL GOOD WE'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON TODAY. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL ORDINANCE FOUR TEX AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE ONE DIVISION 1.3 SECTION 1.3.5 EXEMPTIONS OF THE CDC TO PROVIDE TO ADDRESS COUNTY PUBLIC SERVICE USES. RIGHT OKAY. OKAY. 
          AND SO IS A PROVISION THAT WENT BEFORE COUNCIL IN 2020 AND WHAT IT IS IS IT IS A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS FOR THE LOCATION OF PUBLIC SERVICE OR COUNTY SERVICE USES IN THE COUNTY AND IT PROVIDES A MECHANISM FOR THESE TO LOCATE THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A ZONING IF THAT DISTRICT DOES NOT PERMIT THAT TYPE OF USE. THE IDEA IS IF THE COUNTY HAS A COMPELLING REASON LOCATE A USE LET'S SAY A PUBLIC SAFETY FIRE STATION SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE IN AN AREA WHERE THAT CERTAINLY DOES NOT PERMIT WHAT THIS IS SET UP A PROCEDURE WHERE THE PLANS FOR THAT USE WOULD BE PRESENTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN THE COUNCIL AND THEN THROUGH THOSE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS YOU THE COUNCIL MAKE A DETERMINATION OF THAT USE. IS IT APPROPRIATE THAT AREA THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS APPROACH AND THE REASON THAT IT IS NOT SIMPLY A CHANGE IN ZONING TO ALLOW THIS USE IS THAT SOMETIMES THERE'S THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES YOU MAY HAVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THIS PARTICULAR SERVICE USE IS VERY MUCH NEEDED BUT TO CHANGE THE ZONING WOULD ALLOW ALL THE OTHER USES THAT THAT DISTRICT WOULD ALLOW AND THEN IT COULD CREATE A LEGACY A SPOT ZONE PIECE OF PROPERTY OR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT JUST SIMPLY NOT ZONED APPROPRIATE FOR THAT AREA. SO THIS GIVES COUNCIL THE ABILITY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY OR PUBLIC SERVICE USE TO BE ABLE TO CITE SPECIFIC LOCATED IN IT. AND THEN SO THIS IS UNDER A PROVISION FOR EXEMPT ZONES IN ARTICLE ONE OF OUR CODE . OKAY. 
          AND WHAT HAPPENED IN 2000 SO THIS IS AS I SAY I TOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION I THINK THIS WAS OF OUR CASUALTIES OF COVID THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YOU KNOW, THEY THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. 
          [01:40:01]
IT WENT TO COUNCIL AND AT THAT TIME IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING COUNCIL MADE IT MORE STRINGENT. 
          I THINK THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL HAD ONE PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL ADDED THE SECOND AND THEN IT MADE IT TO THREE READINGS BUT THERE'S SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER HOW IT WAS RATIFIED AND WHETHER THE RIGHT FINAL VERSION OF IT WAS SURE REAL QUICKLY IT CAME TO COUNCIL SPRING OF 2020 . IT WAS AMENDED, BROUGHT BACK, WENT THROUGH THREE READINGS BUT BECAUSE WE HAD GOTTEN INTO COVID EVERYTHING WAS VIRTUAL IT WAS NOT RATIFIED. 
          SO INSTEAD OF JUST DOING THE RATIFICATION SOME YEARS LATER WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK THROUGH BUT COUNCIL'S ALREADY APPROVED IT ONCE AND WE'RE ADDING THESE LAYERS AND WE'D LIKE YOUR SUPPORT ON. OKAY. UM PAGE IF IF Y'ALL COULD SHOW UP ON THE SCREEN PAGE 113 I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION WITH THE VERBIAGE ON THERE REGARDING THIS AND IN THE SECOND AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN TALK IT QUICKLY. 
          OKAY? IF YOU NEED MORE THAN THAT YOU WANT A MOTION MOMENT? YES. LET'S MOVE THAT WE WE GRANT THE REQUEST IT'S COMING BEFORE US AND WE'VE GOT TO GO. WE GOT GO THROUGH THOSE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT'S NOT IN CONFLICT WITH ANY PROVISION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE OR THE CODE OF ORDINANCE. IT IS REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS. IT DOES ADDRESS THE DEMAND AND IT DOES ADDRESS IT DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEEDS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE ZONE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE OR WOULD IMPROVE THE COMPATIBILITY USERS AND ENSURE EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COUNTY. IT WOULD RESULT IN A LOGICAL IN ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND WOULD NOT RESULT IN AN ADVERSE ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WATER AIR NOISE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ETC. AND I REMEMBER THIS WELL AND I THINK THE ISSUE WAS THAT IT WAS NOT BROUGHT BEFORE FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS HEARING FOR THAT COMMUNITY AND SO THIS WILL ALLOW THAT TO BE ADDRESSED IT WAS OKAY TO HAVE A SECOND TO COUNCILMAN GLOVER'S MOTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          COUNCIL CHAIRMAN INVESTMENT SECOND THAT OBJECTION ARE JUST LOST HAVE JUST GOT ANY DISCUSSION ALL RIGHT. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THIS WILL GO FORWARD. 
          OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. I WOULD SAY THIS EVEN THOUGH THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME THOUGHT AND TOOK YOU CAN AND YOU CAN YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF POSSIBLE COUNCIL REALLY THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR AN EMERGENCY BUT THE COMMUNITY DID NOT AND THEY WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT WHOLE ASPECT THAT SO I THINK THAT WAS LONG BEFORE THE 2020 INITIAL DISCUSSION AND ALL THAT WAS VETTED OUT ADDING THIS IN THE SECOND TIME IT CAME THROUGH. 
          [11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO ADD THE BEAUFORT COUNTY HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS AS AN APPENDIX TO THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN -Robert Merchant, Director, Planning and Zoning]
YES OKAY YEP OKAY NEXT ONE AND THE NEXT ONE IS APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE OR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO ADD THE BEAUFORT COUNTY HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS AS AN APPENDIX TO THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN . AND THIS WAS IN YOUR PACKET IT WAS IN THERE TWICE BUT IT WAS THE SAME IT'S THE SAME REPORT SO YES MA'AM. 
          YES. SO IT HAS BEEN THE DEMONSTRATED WILL OF COUNCIL THAT THE OF A TAX FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE AN OPTION ON IN ORDER TO DO THAT THROUGH STATE WE HAVE TO ADD OR WE HAVE TO DO THE HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS AND ADD THAT AS AN APPENDICES TO OUR PLAN AND WE'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO DO THAT AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE SOME GREAT MOVE THEM FORWARD. 
          ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY VICE CHAIRMAN MCCLELLAN I KNOW I HAVE A SECOND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TARVER TO MOVE THAT FORWARD OR THAT OBJECTION THIS WILL BE SENT ON A YES MA'AM. IT WILL GO FORWARD TO COUNCIL FOR THREE REASONS. 
          SO AT NEXT AND I WILL SAY AT THE NEXT MEETING YES, MA'AM. AND I WILL SAY THAT IF YOU TO SEE THE FULL PRESENTATION ON THE HOUSING ANALYSIS, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE RECORDING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IT'S A VERY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YES, MA'AM. SO I DID WATCH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          IT WAS A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION. IT'S A VERY PRESENTATION BUT WE NEED THIS SO THAT CAN BE IN LINE TO USE A TAX FUNDS WHICH WERE SETTING ASIDE. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THIS BEING DONE BUT IT IS VERY LONG SO GET READY. 
          YOU HAVE YOUR FAVORITE BEVERAGE . THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU. YES SIR. THINK AT THE END YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS DOWN PACKAGE THING AT THE END MAKING MOTION BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT. 
          [01:45:05]
WE HAVE GO THROUGH THIS. YOU HAVE OH YES SIR. THERE'S SIX ITEMS. SIX ITEMS I'M SORRY. WELL, WE DON'T HAVE IT. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME. 
          BATHROOM COUNTS MY FILM IS IT PERMITS IS IT PERMITTED TO SIT WE CAPITAL MOVIES GRANT YEAH WE GOT IT WHAT THREE? YEAH AND WHAT PAGE IT'S PAGE 123 IN THE PACKAGE 11 OKAY PAGE 123 DIFFERENT THAN ALL RIGHT OKAY I'M GOING TO JUST BROUGHT YOU WANT TO PUT IT UP THE SCREEN? YES, MA'AM. MAKE IT EASIER TO BRING BACK. 
          HERE WE GO. IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY. 
          YEAH. THIS MOTION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OBJECTIVES AND POLICY. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT IN CONFLICT ON ANY PROVISIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE OR THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AS REQUIRED BY CHANGED CONDITIONS. 
          THE ADDRESSES THAT DEMONSTRATE A COMMUNITY MEET IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE ZONE. THIS DEVELOPMENT TOTAL WILL IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY AMONG USERS AND ENSURE EFFICIENT IN THE COUNTY WHEN RESULT IN A LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WOULD NOT RESULT IN ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WATER AIR NOISE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, EDUCATION, WETLANDS AND THE NATIONAL FUNCTIONING OF THE ENVIRONMENT IT'S NOT THE LAW WHICH SUGGESTS THIS IS THE CORRECT YEAH THAT'S THE WRONG ONE I'M SORRY SO IT'S PAGE 123. YEAH I GUESS I'M WE GRANT THE REQUEST FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS CAPITAL INVESTMENTS POPULATION TRENDS LAND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DENSITY OR OTHER CONDITIONS CHANGE YOU JUSTIFY THE AMENDMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN'S AND POLICIES IF NECESSARY RESPOND TO STATE AND FEDERAL LEGISLATION WOULD RESULT IN DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING LAND USES WOULD NOT AFFECT THE CAPACITY OF THE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES INCLUDING ROADS, UTILITIES, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE, EMS, SCHOOL PARKS AND RECREATION SOLID WASTE AND DRAINAGE FACILITIES WOULD NOT RESULT IN A NEGATIVE IMPACT FROM NATURAL RESOURCES AS ALL SIX OF THE I'M LOOKING TO OUR ATTORNEYS WE'RE GOOD TO GO OKAY AND WE HAD THE SECOND WAS MY WHO SECONDED YOUR MY I DID COUNCILMAN DEVON EXCITING ALL RIGHT WITHOUT OBJECTION WE DID THIS THE RIGHT WAY. 
          YEAH. THIS WILL GO FOR 11. YEAH. 
          I'M SORRY I WAS BROUGHT WE DID HAVE THE BACKUP FOR 11 PULLED UP. 
          NO ITEM NUMBER 11. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. 
          [12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING BEAUFORT COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES PART 1 GENERAL ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 46 HEALTH AND SANITATION, ARTICLE IV ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE BOARD SECTIONS 121 PURPOSE AND 122 POWERS AND DUTIES; AND REPEALING SECTION 46-122 MEMBERSHIP (FISCAL IMPACT: No direct fiscal impact to the county) -Audra Antonacci-Ogden, Assistant County Administrator, Community Services]
THE NEXT IS WE HAVE DECIDE WHO WAS GOING TO PRESENT THE APPROVAL TO COUNCILMAN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE BEAUFORT COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 46 HEALTH AND SANITATION ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE BOARD SECTIONS 121 PURPOSE AND 122 POWERS AND DUTIES REPEALING REPEALING SECTION 40 6-1 22 THERE'S NO IMPACT TO THE COUNTY FINANCIALS STANDPOINT ON THIS IF YOU WANT TO. YES. 
          CHAIR GO FORWARD WITH THAT LIKE YOU STATED THIS IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO BE FAIR COUNTY CODE OF CHAPTER 46 ARTICLE SIX ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE FOR THE SECTIONS THAT YOU REFERENCE AND IN IN SEEKING THIS APPROVAL IT WILL IN LINE WITH THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR OKAY SO WE NEED A MOTION TO MAKE THESE AMENDMENTS AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES SO MOVED. OKAY WE HAVE A SECOND I'LL SECOND THAT DISCUSSION IS ARE THERE ANY CURRENT ACTIVE BOARD MEMBERS? YES SIR THEY ARE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IN AND SPEAKING WITH THE DIRECTOR AND THE BOARD CHAIR ADVISORY BOARD CHAIR MISS HARTMAN WE BELIEVE THEIR ROLE WOULD BE BETTER USED AS AMBASSADORS IN THEIR COMMUNITY SO WE WILL DEFINITELY YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THEIR SERVICES. WE JUST FEEL THAT THIS WILL BE A MORE APPROPRIATE CAPACITY FOR TO SERVE AS OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. HOW WOULD YOU SIR SERVING ON THAT BOARD BEFORE I WAS APPOINTED A JUDGE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS I AGREE WITH WHAT 
          [01:50:02]
THEY'RE DOING HERE. I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE ON BOARD TO SERVE AS AMBASSADORS TO THEIR COMMUNITIES PROVIDES A MUCH MORE POSITIVE BENEFIT THAN JUST ATTENDING A BOARD MEETING WHERE A LOT OF INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED THAT WAS REALLY NOT ACTIONABLE. AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA TO GIVE THEM A BETTER PURPOSE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND I THINK IT WILL RESULT BETTER PROGRAMS FOR THE FOR THE NEWLY NAMED ORGANIZATION. SO YES, IT'S A GREAT MOVE. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ALL RIGHT. IF HEARING NONE WITHOUT OBJECTION THIS WILL GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. 
          YEAH, I JUST I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL. 
          NO, NO, NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          [14. PRESENTATION OF A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY VETERAN/AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONCEPT AND PLAN (FISCAL IMPACT: No fiscal impact) -Heather Rath, Representative for Habitat for Humanity]
WELL, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BYE. 
          LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS A PRESENTATION JUST FOR INFORMATION BY BY BRENDA DOOLEY WITH A SHEET. THERE SHE IS. I SEE HER SHE IS GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION. THIS IS NOT FOR ANY ACTION EXCEPT TO FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION APPROVAL. WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE A VOTE. WE CAN REFER BACK TO STAFF BUT SHE'S GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ABOUT A CONCEPT FOR HABITAT FOR HUMANITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLAN FOR VETERANS. YES. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU, MR.. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO TALK ABOUT THIS EXCITING POSSIBILITY. 
          WE ARE HERE AS A NEWLY FAIRLY NEWLY MERGED ORGANIZATION OF TWO AFFILIATES IN COUNTY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING SOME REALLY THINGS. AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS VETERANS VILLAGE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND IT JUST REPRESENTS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLABORATION IN COUNTY AND AS ONE NOW BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND I PROBABLY HAVE CONTROL HERE THAT'S ALL RIGHT. SO A VETERANS VILLAGE IS SOMETHING WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT AS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIND HOUSING FOR VETERANS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IS SOMETHING THAT INTERNATIONALLY OUR NATIONAL ORGANIZATION HAS A FORMAL PROGRAM FOR VETERANS BILLS SO WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD LOVE TO BRING HERE TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY SO WHY DOES IT MATTER? I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW WHY MATTERS. WE HAVE A MILITARY COMMUNITY HERE AND BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR VETERANS THIS WAY WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY WANTING TO KEEP THOSE VETERANS HERE IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY WITH RISING HOUSING COSTS. IT'S IT'S HARDER AND HARDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND MAKE THAT TRANSITION TRANSITION TO CIVILIAN LIFE. 
          AND WE HAVE A LARGE COMMUNITY HERE. WE KNOW WE DO AND OH EXCUSE ME ALLERGIES AND SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE HOUSING. IT COULD VERY SIZE FROM A SMALL COMMUNITY TO EVEN A LARGER DEPENDING ON WHAT WE COULD FIND FOR A SITE. 
          SO THE CHALLENGE FOR OUR VETERANS THEY THEY SPEND THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING PERCENT IS PRETTY MUCH CONSIDERED TO BE A STANDARD THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE FOLKS SPEND MORE OF THAT OF THEIR ON HOUSING MANY SPEND UP TO 50% ON HOUSING AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S NOT ON HOMEOWNERSHIP THAT'S ON RENTAL. SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING FOR THAT MONEY THAT THEY'RE PAYING INTO IT OVER THE LONG TERM. 
          AND THEN OUR FEMALE VETERANS, ESPECIALLY SINGLE MOTHERS ARE HABITAT HAS A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY BETWEEN OUR TWO AFFILIATES THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE 1990 WE BUILT 181 HOMES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. OUR HOMES ARE ENERGY EFFICIENT. 
          WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO TO UPDATE THAT AND BE ON TOP OF THE THE MOST CURRENT ENERGY EFFICIENCY OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. AND THEN THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY HERE FAR FOR COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP AND AND WE'VE TALKED WITH SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THERE'S DEFINITELY AN INTEREST THERE AND IN DOING THIS AND JUST AN IDEA OF THE PROCESS OF GETTING STARTED WOULD JUST BE OUR STEERING COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT IT WHO ALL SHOULD BE INVOLVED HOW WE APPLY OUR PROGRAM TO THIS VETERANS LOOKING AT THE FUNDRAISING FOR THAT I DON'T SEE THAT AS A HUGE PROBLEM. 
          WE WOULD START OUR BUILDING ONCE. WE HAVE A SITE IDENTIFIED AND FUNDS RAISED. WE WOULD START CONSTRUCTION ON THOSE HOMES AND THEN END UP WITH AN EVALUATION OF THE PROGRAM TO SEE IF THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO WE'RE ASKING THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER ASSISTING US IN IDENTIFYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY 
          [01:55:06]
THAT MIGHT BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK OUT FOR THIS JUST KIND OF A PROJECT AND WE'VE GOT, AS I MENTIONED, SOME SUPPORT ALREADY THERE FROM LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS AND I'LL TELL YOU WE'RE BUILDING RIGHT NOW OUT BY THE AIR STATION AND THE SUPPORT OUR MARINES IS INCREDIBLE OUT THERE. THOSE SINGLE MARINE THE SINGLE MARINE PROGRAM, THOSE VOLUNTEERS WE GET OUT OF THAT PROGRAM THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN HABITAT AND WE DO AND GREAT SUPPORT FROM FROM OUR MARINE CORPS SO THAT WAS IT VERY QUICKLY ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER FOR ANYONE? JUST A QUICK QUESTION, SIR. YES. 
          I MEAN IS HOW I FOUR OR SIX YEARS AGO SIX YEARS AGO SAT AROUND ABOUT THE HOMELESS AND DO YOU WILL YOU BE ADDRESSING HOMELESS VETERANS AS WELL WITH THIS PROJECT? OUR PROGRAM IS LOOKING AT FAMILIES OR, INDIVIDUALS EVEN WHO CAN COME INTO THE PROGRAM PAY A MORTGAGE SO THEY DO NEED TO HAVE INCOME. BUT AGAIN WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT HAVING COSTS OVER 30% OF THAT RIGHT. THEY GET TO PUT WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING FOR THE HOMELESS VETERANS AND AGAIN AS PART OF THAT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BUT I'M JUST GOING TO THROW THAT ON THE TABLE. THAT'S ALL AS OF THE THE STEERING COMMITTEE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT. I KNOW THERE ARE HABITAT AFFILIATES WHO ARE LOOKING AT TINY HOUSES FOR VETERANS. YOU KNOW THE SMALLER HOMES AND WE DO A PLAN FOR A ONE BEDROOM COTTAGE THAT WE CAN AGREE WITH YOU THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OVER 25% OF VETERANS HERE. THE NUMBER IN WE GOT TWO MILITARY BASES AND WE GOT A LOT OF VETERANS WE YOU KNOW, JUST TO SEE A HOMELESS VET FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND STILL FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY'RE NOT IN A HOME WE COULD ADDRESS THAT AS WELL. WE CAN LOOK AT A BIG PICTURE TO THE OTHER QUESTION. 
          YES, COUNCILMAN, AT THE END YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR COUNTY TO DISCUSS THIS AND MAYBE LAND AND I KNOW WE RECEIVED A WHOLE LIST OF WE OWNED SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE WOULD DISCUSSING COUNCIL I THINK IT'S A GOOD I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD PROGRAM AND WE SHOULD DISCUSS IT AT COUNCIL IS ONE THANK YOU. YES I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND CONGRATULATE YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND VITAL IN OUR COMMUNITY TO DO THIS TYPE OF WORK SO I JUST OFFER MY THANKS ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US FOR WHAT DOING AND ACCOMPLISH IT. I LOVE DOING IT. 
          I KNOW YOU FEEL GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. 
          ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I THINK WE'D LIKE TO LOOK FORWARD BEING INVOLVED IN A IN A PLAN AND THE TASK GROUP AND WE'LL DO IT. THERE'S NO OTHER ACTION CAN TAKE AT THIS TIME BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN THAT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT'S A CONSENSUS AND THANK YOU FOR COMING THANK YOU THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT WE ARE ADJOURNED AND WHAT TIME WE START, CHAIRMAN? WE'LL PROBABLY START AT FIVE AFTER. OKAY, SURE WE CAN CHANGE OVER. 
          ALL RIG
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.