Sep 05, 2024 Planning Commission

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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TWO. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEAN ORDER.

PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE THIS SUPER I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WE STAND ONE NATION INDIVISIBLE THE MILITARY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL THANK YOU MY COUNTRY. YEP.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY FOR YOU NOTIFICATION IS THEN PUBLISHED BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENT ABOUT THE AGENDA. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO

[4. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES – July 1, 2024]

[5. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[6. CITIZEN COMMENTS – NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

WOULD YOU PLEASE COME UP PLEASE AND THAT COMMENT IS IN REFERENCE TO THE RAND WOULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF? OKAY. NAME IS JOYCE MY LAST NAME IS HAMM OKAY? MM HMM. THAT THE COMMENT THAT I WANT TO MAKE IS IN REFERENCE TO THE RAMSEY JENNINGS PROJECT THAT THEY CONSIDERING BRINGING BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD SOMETIME IN OCTOBER I WAS TOLD THAT IT WOULD BE HERE BUT APPARENTLY IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY. SO IF IT IS THE AGENDA IN THE FUTURE OUR PLAN TO DENY THAT FOR THE IN OUR COMMUNITY WE DO NOT NEED HOUSES AT $300,000 PER HOME IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE ARE STANDING FIRM THAT THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO VOTE IN OUR FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ITEM ON THE CONSIDERATION ON THE ORDINANCE AMENDING ZONING MAP I LOCATED ON HIGHWAY OKATIE HIGHWAY NO NO. YOU KNOW THIS IS IN BURT. WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE ON THE FOR TODAY BUT APPARENTLY IS NOT SO THANK YOU YOU DO WANT TO MAKE ANY MENTION OF THAT ONE THIS WAS A REZONING AND CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS MARCH OR APRIL WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION LOOKED AT IT IT WENT YOU KNOW THE PLANNING RECOMMENDED DENIAL IT WENT TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE WHO RECOMMENDED DENIAL AND THEN IT WAS TURNED DOWN AT FIRST READING OF COUNTY COUNCIL THE APPLICANT OF THE COMMENTS WE MADE HAD TO DO WITH THE PLACE TYPE OVERLAY THEY DID THIS AS A CONVENTIONAL REZONING THE APPLICANT HAS THAT THEY WANT TO COME BACK WITH AN APPLICATION THAT WOULD BE A PLACE TYPE OVERLAY CHANGE ZONING AMENDMENT AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'VE DROPPED OFF A TODAY IN OUR OFFICE WHICH IS THE DEADLINE FOR THE OCTOBER SO WE HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT IT OR KNOW WE HAVE TO DETERMINE THAT IT'S COMPLETE AND READY TO MOVE FORWARD BUT. I HAD MENTIONED TO JOYCE THAT I WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE SEND OUT LETTERS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ONCE THAT IS ON THE AGENDA WE WOULD SEND IT TO HER AND. RIGHT.

SO THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.

THANK YOU. MS. HAMM. WELL, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

YEAH, WE CAN JUST TAKE A SECOND TO WELCOME MS.. TABACHNICK TO OUR MEETING.

WELL THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET ON WITH THE AGENDA.

[7. CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP FOR 49.16 ACRES (R600 029 000 0005 0000, R600 029 000 0143 0000, R600 029 000 1194 0000, R600 029 000 0002 0000, R600 029 000 008A 0000, R600 029 000 008C 0000, R600 029 000 0006 0000, R600 029 000 0026 0000) LOCATED ON OKATIE HIGHWAY FROM T2 RURAL (T2R) TO NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE (C3)]

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT MR. JOHNSON IS HERE AND ASKING US FOR A FURTHER DEFERRAL.

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WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH SOME FOLKS IN GOVERNMENT ENTITIES THAT DEAL WITH THAT AND SOME NON-GOVERNMENT. WE PLAN TO BRING IN FOLKS LIKE THE YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THEM THE OPERATION EFFORT WILL BE OVER IN RIDGELAND THAT HAS A GREAT MINISTRY THERE FOR VETERANS BRINGING SOME STATE LEVEL VETERANS PEOPLE AND CERTAINLY THE COUNTY'S LOCAL VETERANS OFFICE AND AND OTHER PEOPLE AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH STAFF AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT CAN CAN WORK AND BE A BENEFIT TO EVERYBODY AND.

SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS IN CARRYING THIS OVER TILL DECEMBER. I'VE DISCUSSED THAT DATE WITH ROB MERCHANT AND WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW IN TIME TO GET THEM FORMALLY WHAT THEY NEED FOR THE 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE AND EVERYTHING. SO I'M HAPPY. ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. JOHNSON A WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE PARCELS THAT YOU ASKED THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO ANNEX AND THEY REQUIREMENTS OBVIOUSLY THAT YOU KNOW WHICH WOULD MANDATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOUSING TO BE PUT TO LOW INCOME WHEREAS THAT TOWN OF BLUFFTON REFUSED THE PROPERTY AND INFORMAL MEETINGS THAT WE HAD TWICE WITH THE THEN MAYOR ELECT NOW MAYOR AND A COUNCIL THEN NOW COUNCIL MEMBER WE OFFERED MY CLIENT OFFERED ON THAT PARCEL TO MAKE IT 100% WORKFORCE HOUSING AND IT DIDN'T SHOW IN THE PUBLIC RECORD THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT EVERYBODY HAD SOME ACCESS TO RATHER THAN THE 20% THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THEIR TOWN CODE . WE OFFERED 100% AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE WILLING TO DO THAT EVEN AT 100% BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE AN ZONING AND THEY WOULD RATHER DO WITHOUT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING WHICH WOULD WOULD IT BE INCLUDED TECHNICALLY IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ELEMENT AND A WORKFORCE HOUSING ELEMENT? THE TWO TECHNICAL DEFINITIONS THEY'D RATHER DO WITHOUT IT THAN THE UP ZONE ONE ACRE OF LAND EITHER IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON OR TO GET THERE WAS ONE ACRE I I THOUGHT IT WAS THE PARCEL THAT WAS UNDER EIGHT ACRES YOU KNOW IT WAS 8.73 ACRES IS 8.71 ACRE.

IT'S A NO I SAID BUT THEY TOLD US THAT EVEN IF IT WAS ONE ACRE THEY WOULDN'T DO IT.

AND WHAT MESSAGE DID YOU TAKE FROM THAT THAT YOU'RE NOW COMING BACK TO THE COUNTY WITH A SORT OF COUNTERPROPOSAL TO OFFER WORKFORCE HOUSING, HOUSING AND YOU KNOW, INJURED VETERANS HOUSING I GUESS I DON'T SEE LOGIC HERE. WELL, THE LOGIC IS SIMPLY THAT WE THINK IT MAKES A PRODUCT THAT WOULD BE APPEALING TO THE PUBLIC MAY NOT BE APPEALING TO YOU AND MAYBE NOT TO THE COMMISSION. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE COMMISSION. YES, MA'AM. I KNOW.

BUT WE THINK IT WOULD MAKE A AN APPEALING PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY ULTIMATELY AND COUNTY COUNCIL I GUESS ULTIMATELY WOULD MAKE WHATEVER DECISION IT MIGHT MAKE IF IF CONTINUES AND WITH THE MILITARY HISTORY AND HERITAGE HERE, WE THOUGHT MAYBE THIS WOULD SET A GOOD EXAMPLE MY CLIENTS DID FOR OTHER PROJECTS TO TRY TO HELP OUR DISABLED VETERANS RATHER THAN SOMETHING YOU SEE ON TV AND THEY WANT YOU TO SEND $11 A MONTH TO IT COULD BE HAPPENING HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY NOW IT MAY BE THAT COUNTY SHARES THE SAME NOTION THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON LEADERSHIP SEEMS TO HAVE THAT IF THERE'S ZONING OF ANYTHING THEN PERHAPS THE COUNTY COUNCIL DOES NOT WANT TO ANY WORKFORCE HOUSING TO GET THERE AND A BRIDGE WE HAVEN'T

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. I JUST I'VE GOT JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION AFTER I'VE READ THROUGH THIS THROUGH AND READ THE AGENDA WITNESS WAS ADDRESSED JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT FIRST YOU WERE GOING TO GO FROM T TO R TO C THREE FOR 50 MENTIONS FLATS AND THEN SOME COMMERCIAL WITH SOME DWELLING UNITS ABOVE.

WAS THAT CORRECT? THAT WAS THE INITIAL FOUR PART OF THE CORRECT AND LET ME SPEAK TO CLARIFY. OKAY. WE WERE GOING TO GO FROM T TO R TO MIXED USE COMMERCIAL WHICH IS THE SAME THING C THREE RIGHT.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN INDICATED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE COUNTY IN THE 2010 COMP PLAN AND IS NOW INDICATED IN THE 2040 COMP PLAN. THE APPLICATION PROCESS DOES NOT REQUIRE SUBMISSION ANY PARTICULAR ARRANGEMENT OR MIX OR STYLE OF OF POTENTIAL PROJECT IMPROVEMENTS STAFF ASK US IF WE WOULD PROVIDE POTENTIAL EXAMPLE OF WHAT A FORM OF DEVELOPMENT MIGHT LOOK LIKE NOT THE FORM BUT A POTENTIAL FORM AND THAT WAS CREATED FOR THAT PURPOSE BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARY REPRESENT WHERE WE'RE HEADED IN TERMS OF ACTUAL FINISHED PRODUCT BECAUSE IT'S TOO EARLY IN YOUR PROCESS AND THE COUNTY PROCESS TO REALLY GET TO THAT PLACE. WHAT WAS PRESENTED I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER BUT IT DID INCLUDE SOME MANSION STYLE HOUSES. IT INCLUDED WALKABILITY CORRIDORS, PEDESTRIAN JET TYPE THINGS. IT INCLUDED A MIXED USE RETAIL THAT WOULD CONTEMPLATE NOT ONLY COMMERCIAL BUT THE MIXED USE AND THE UPPER FLOORS AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANT AND ACTIVITIES OF THAT ON A SMALL SCALE IN THAT AREA WOULD PROBABLY WOULD BE APPEALING TO THE FOLKS ACROSS THE STREET FROM SOME CITY SUN CITY SOME OF WHOM WE'VE TALKED TO AND FIND THAT NOTION VERY APPEALING SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO FAR AND WIDE ON 170 TO GET AWAY FROM THE TWO OR THREE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE WITHIN EASY REACH OF ALL OF UNTIL 8000 WHATEVER IT IS FROM THERE.

OKAY. THANK SO SO THIS THIS SPECIFIC THANK YOU ACTION THAT YOU'RE TAKING IT WAS JUST A SECOND THIS SPECIFIC YOU'RE TAKING TO AMEND THE APPLICATION TO INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL OR SOME DIFFERENT ASPECTS SO THAT YOU CAN COME BACK.

YES. BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A ZONING MAP REQUEST.

THAT'S CORRECT. CHANGE HAS TO FOR WHERE WE ARE. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THIS MERCHANT THE DEFERRAL? YES. I SPOKE WITH MR. JOHNSON ABOUT THIS AND WE OFFERED ONE CONDITION THAT IF THIS IS DEFERRED TO DECEMBER WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS ADVERTISED BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THE ORIGINAL PUBLIC HEARING AND SO THAT WAY THE COMMUNITY OR INTERESTED RESIDENTS CAN COME OUT AND THE PROCESS WE'RE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF YES I SEE THAT IN YOUR LETTER THAT YOU SUBMITTED TO US AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE A QUESTION. YES.

BUT YOU DIDN'T REALLY SPECIFICALLY WHAT BLUFFTON THE REASONING BEHIND 39 WHERE WE GET THAT KIND OF IF WE GO TO THIS MEETING DEFER UNTIL DECEMBER WHAT I COULD DO WE MET WITH STAFF PRIOR TO I THINK THIS WAS BACK IN MAY OR JUNE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO YOU KNOW SPEAK WITH THEM ANYWAY WE TRIED TO COORDINATE EVERY TIME THERE'S A MAJOR REZONING AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE INFORMATION WE PUT IN A STAFF REPORT THAT THEY THEY HAD MENTIONED THE ISSUE ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO WE WANT TO REVISIT THAT YOU KNOW SO WHEN WHEN THIS COMES FORWARD IN DECEMBER KNOW THIS YOU KNOW IS THEY'RE REQUESTING YOU KNOW IF IF WE FIND OUT ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT WE COULD UPDATE YEAH SO BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE I MEAN WHAT I'M HEARING FROM BARRY IS THAT THIS IS BASED ON A CONVERSATION WITH WITH ELECTED OFFICIAL AND THE MIRROR LOOKED IN THE MIRROR WHO WAS ALSO COUNCILMEMBER AT THAT TIME YEAH NOT GOING PROFESSIONAL MAYOR YEAH STAFF WAS NOT PRESENT YEAH.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW THERE'S ANY RECORD OF THAT AND YOU KNOW SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THE CURRENT MAYOR HE WOULD SPEAK TO STAFF COULD YOU SPEAK UP AT THE PODIUM IF YOU MINUTES NOW SO

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I'D BE INTERESTED IN THE IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS SO THAT THAT'S OF IMPORTANCE AS WELL.

THEY WERE GIVEN NOTICE BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'VE SAID ANYTHING.

NO NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF KNOW WE DID REACH OUT TO THEM BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE ROADWAYS THAT WAS NUMBER FIVE ON THE MAP LITERALLY DUMPS INTO THE ROADWAY FOR RIVER RIDGE ELEMENTARY. EXACTLY.

SO THERE'S A I THINK WHATEVER PLAN IS THERE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE CONNECTIVITY TO THE ACADEMY BUT IT WASN'T IT WASN'T IN THE PLAN I READ I MEAN I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT OR A DESIGNER BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT AS BEING RESOLVED. WE DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE BOARD OF EDUCATION FOR THAT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. SURE I'M ASKING THAT.

I'M ALSO ASKING WHAT ABOUT THE THE TRAFFIC STUDY TO MY READING DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC PROBLEM AND SORT OF BACK UP ON THOSE INTERNAL ROADS RIGHT WERE THE MAP INDICATED CONNECTIVITY I'M GOING TO SPEAK FROM MEMORY HERE SO FORGIVE ME YOU MIGHT WANT THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO HOLD OFF ON THAT. I MEAN I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT SOME OF THE SHORTCOMINGS SOME OF THE SHORTCOMINGS OF THE CURRENT APPLICATION ON THE TIRE SCHOOL NOTIFICATION BLUFFTON INVOLVEMENT AND UNDERSTANDING ARE GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING THOSE PARTICULAR ISSUES THOSE ARE VERY HELPFUL COMES IN DECEMBER I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY GAVE US THE INDICATION THAT THAT INTERCONNECT WITH THE SCHOOL WAS IMPORTANT FOR PURPOSES OF THE GUIDANCE OF THE TIME BUT WE CAN READDRESS THAT WITH THE COUNTY TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND WITH THE CONSULTANTS WHO DID THE REPORT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S ALL RIGHT TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT.

THERE IS A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT PROCESS. PROCESS COULD ANSWER IT.

ROB. THIS REQUEST WAS DEFERRED IN JULY.

JUST SORT OF WANT A TIMELINE. YES. AND I MYSELF VOTED AGAINST THE DEFERRAL. I WAS THE ONE OF THE SIX ONE VOTE.

SO WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR WHAT MR. JOHNSON WROTE IN HIS EMAIL TO YOU ABOUT REMAND. THAT IS WE HAVE NO MORE BUT THAT THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED THIS IS DEFERRAL THERE THEY DEFERRED TO SEPTEMBER THEY'RE ASKING TO DEFER TO DECEMBER THEY'VE DEFERRED TO SEPTEMBER OCTOBER I BELIEVE WERE THE EMAILS THAT WE KNOW SEPTEMBER THE ORIGINAL REQUESTS FOR SEPTEMBER THE SUBSEQUENT REQUEST TODAY IS FOR DECEMBER AND THEY HAVE A THEY THEY HAVE RIGHT CODING TO THE CDC SECTION 7.4. 64 DEFERRAL APPLICATION AND THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED IN WRITING .

YEAH, THAT'S MY QUESTION. IS IT A TWO MONTH WINDOW? IS THERE A WINDOW THERE NOT NO.

THERE'S THERE IS NO LIMIT. THEY CAN MOVE IT OUT. THIS IS THEIR REQUEST.

THERE IS A LIMIT IF WE REQUEST IT YOU CAN DO IT ONE TIME BUT IS NO TIME LIMIT IF YOU WANT TO DELAY IT FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS THEY COULD DO THAT AND YOU'D HAVE TO WITH THE PLANNING DIRECTOR SEE IF THAT STILL APPLICABLE AND THEY STILL WANT TO DO THAT.

THE CONDITIONS CHANGED SUCH THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS BUT.

NO THERE IS NO LIMIT THERE'S NO CLOCK TICKING. THERE'S NO CLOCK TICKING, YOU KNOW BUT I MEAN AND THAT'S WHY WE PLACE THAT CONDITION BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IS SOMEBODY CAME AT THE JULY MEETING THAT WAS VERY INTERESTED THIS PROJECT AND THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUES IN DECEMBER THEY'RE NOT GETTING NOTIFICATION.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WHO IS FOR THE JULY MEETING IS NOTIFIED THIS COMES BACK. I'M GLAD YOU MADE THAT POINT. A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE IN JULY WHO WANT TO SPEAK AND WE WEREN'T AFFORDED THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO WE WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WHEN THEY COME BACK THAT THEY'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

OKAY. AND ROB, THAT WILL BE IN WRITING TO THOSE FOLKS WHO SIGNED UP OR HOW DOES THE COUNTY WE WOULD NOTIFY THEM THE SAME WAY WE NOTICE.

SO YOU KNOW, WE PUT THE NOTICES IN PAPER WE THEN WE CONTACT PEOPLE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE PROPOSED REZONING. OKAY. ANY OTHER AND AND POST THE PROPERTY. SURE. YEAH I JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE RECORD THE LETTER TALKS ABOUT CONTINUOUS THIS IS IN FACT THE DEFERRAL.

I KNOW WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION . YES, YES, YES, YEAH YEAH.

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WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD SAY WELL THIS IS JUST A HYPOTHETICAL.

WE COULD THIS IF THE APPLICANT FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH WHAT THEY'VE INDICATED THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING USING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS THE INSTRUMENT TO DO THAT THEN IT KIND OF PUTS THE BALL IN COUNCIL'S COURT THAT THEY HAVE KIND A CONDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION FROM COUNSEL THAT IF YOU KNOW WE SUPPORT THIS IF COUNCIL BACKS UP WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND YOU MEAN OUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.

YES. SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF HOW I SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD IT IF YOU KNOW AT OUR DECEMBER MEETING THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION SO YEAH YEAH WELL I ALWAYS GET NERVOUS WHEN SOMEONE I KNOW ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THE ORIGINAL PUBLIC HEARING HAD TO DO WITH AND THESE ARE MY WORDS KIND OF A LACK OF ADDRESSING THE ISSUE OF THE HAMLET PLACE BASS OVERLAY PLAN IN SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS IS THAT YOUR ANTICIPATION THAT WE'LL SEE MORE OF THAT YEAH THIS IS BACK IN DECEMBER THIS SOMETHING REALLY FOR THE APPLICANT BUT ONE POSSIBILITY IS WE SO WE HAVE A COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL CHANGE THAT CAN AFFECT WHAT WE CALL PLACE TYPE OVERLAY WHICH IS KNOW BASICALLY CHOOSING THE TRANSECT ZONES THAT CREATE A WHETHER IT'S A VILLAGE OR HAMLET PLACE TYPE.

THE ONE THING THAT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COULD DO AND WE DID THIS IN THE CASE OF PEPPER HALL YOU KNOW THE GRAVES PROPERTY IS YOU CAN USE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IF THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO A STRAIGHTFORWARD REZONING TO SEE THREE THEY COULD USE A TRADITIONAL COMMUNITY PLAN WHICH IS A STAFF LEVEL WAY OF APPLYING TRANSECT ZONES TO THAT COMMUNITY IN IMPLEMENTING THE PLACE TYPE IN THAT COULD BE SOMETHING ALSO THAT IS YOU KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COULD PUT INTO PLACE SO IT THAT'S ONE WAY IT COULD BE ADDRESSED BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS BROUGHT BY STAFF. SO AND I MEAN I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU KNOW, THE REVISED SUBMITTAL SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE YOU KNOW, WHAT FORM IT'S GOING TO TAKE SO ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT LOCATED ON OKATIE HIGHWAY FROM TEE TO RURAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE FOR IT TO BE DEFERRED FOR DECISION OR RECOMMENDATION UNTIL THE DECEMBER 2ND I BELIEVE IT'S THE DECEMBER 2ND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION RAISE YOUR HAND ALL THOSE WHO ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION WE SHOULD RESIST IS AN INTERESTING 1234 OPPOSED AND 12344 EQUALS ALL RIGHT AND SO WE'VE LEARNED FROM THE ZBA THAT IS A FAILED MOTION AND TO HAVE ANOTHER MOTION I WOULD ACTION. WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A RECOMMENDATION WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE WELL WELL WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO GO BACK TO THE STAFF REPORT IN JULY, WHICH I

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SO I GUESS I THINK THE STAFF REPORT STANDS THERE FOR ALL THE REASONS WE'VE MENTIONED TONIGHT AND MENTIONED AT THAT MEETING THAT IS IT'S A THE THE ONLY THING THAT'S NEW I MEAN ACCESS ISN'T NEW NUMBER OF HOUSES AREN'T NEW NUMBER OF YOU KNOW 24,000 SQUARE FEET OR WHATEVER OF COMMERCIAL ISN'T NEW THAT'S ALL THE SAME. THE ONLY THING THAT'S DIFFERENT TO MY KNOWLEDGE IS THE UNKNOWN WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT AND UNKNOWN MILITARY HOUSING WHICH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IN REJECTING THEIR OWN MANDATED YOU KNOW REQUIREMENT FOR THAT HAS SAID KNOW NO AND I THINK AS MR. JOHNSON SAID THEY WOULDN'T WANT IT ON THE EIGHT ACRES.

THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO ANNEX ONE. SO I MEAN TO ME IT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD NOW I'M THAT MR. JOHNSON DOESN'T HAVE ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE BUT I THINK WE'D HAVE TO BE RATHER ENGAGED AND NOT JUST WORKING THROUGH THE STAFF OR I DON'T KNOW I MEAN KNOW I'LL JUST OFFER THIS IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WERE TO LET'S SAY RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION THEN IT WOULD GO YOU KNOW THEY STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE COURSE AND YOU KNOW SO THE WHATEVER THEY'RE PROPOSING TO WHICH I DON'T HAVE MUCH DETAIL THEN THAT NEGOTIATION OR THAT CONVERSATION WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THE LAND USE COMMITTEE THE ADVANTAGE OF DEFERRING WOULD MEAN THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION GETS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS MORE OF THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING SO. I WOULD JUST OFFER THAT AS STAFF I'M NOT TAKING AND NOT REALLY TO TAKE A POSITION THERE.

BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION BE AWARE YOU KNOW IF THEY VOTE TO RECOMMEND DENIAL IT STILL LIVES AND IT ON THE COUNCIL SO IF IS SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED FROM WHAT WE RULED ON OR RECOMMENDED WHETHER WE HAVE ANOTHER BITE AT THAT IN OTHER WORDS WHAT YES. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS IS TO COME BACK WITH CHANGES NOW DOES IT CHANGE ANYTHING IN TERMS OF COMING BACK AT A LATER DATE? IS THERE A SIX MONTHS PERIOD OF STANDING TIME THAT'LL BE BETWEEN THE DENIAL OF THIS APPLICATION AND ANOTHER SUBMISSION. SO THE WAY READS THAT SIX MONTHS IS IF THE APPLICANT WITHDRAWS AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING IS ADVERTISED THE ONE YEAR IS BASICALLY THAT IS COUNSEL DENYING AND REJECTING A REQUEST SO IF COUNSEL AT FIRST READING TURNED DOWN THIS REQUEST THEY COULDN'T COME FOR ANOTHER YEAR WITH WITH THE SAME REQUEST. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO GOTCHA IS IT COUNSEL DENIAL LAND USE DENIAL COUNSEL THAT'S LANE LANE DO YOU STILL JUST MAKES THE RECOMMENDATION SO THE POLITICAL PATHWAY IS THAT MR. JOHNSON AND HIS CLIENTS COULD GO TO LAND USE WITH A NEGATIVE CORRECT AND THAT LAND USE COULD SAY WE HAVE A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNSEL.

WE AGREE YOU KNOW WE WANT TO PRESERVE AND PROMOTE WHAT'S GOING ON COUNCIL RIGHT? I MEAN THEY CAN DO WHATEVER WANT YEAH THAT'S THEIR RIGHT BUT I'M JUST ASKING ABOUT THE I MEAN I UNDERSTAND THE RISK THAT MR. JOHNSON IS FACING NOT ONLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID A YEAR BUT THE FACT THAT I DON'T KNOW A GROUP OF HOMEOWNERS OR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA COULD SAY IF WE'RE PLANNING KENT COUNTY BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION YOU TURN THIS DOWN AND HEAR ALL THE TRAFFIC REASONS WHY AND X, Y AND Z SO THAT'S KIND OF WE'RE BOTH SORT OF IN A GAME OF CHICKEN HERE A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. WELL AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IF THEY GO IF IF IT GOES FORWARD WITH OUR DENIAL OF RECOMMENDATION AND THEY GO TO THE LAND USE WHAT I WOULD EXPECT WOULD BE HAPPENED IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT APPLICATION OR AMENDED APPLICATION BETWEEN NOW AND THEN AND THAT THE AMENDED APPLICATION WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAT IT WOULD BE SENT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALL OF THIS IS SPECULATION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE APPLICANT LOOKING AT IS IT IS A DRAFT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

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I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL GO WITH THE RECONSIDERATION BUT WHAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE FOR US TO DENY THEM AT THIS POINT I MEAN WE ESSENTIALLY IF THEY GO TO LAND USE WITHOUT COMING BACK THROUGH HERE UNLESS YOUR SYSTEM SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE WE DON'T SEE IT AGAIN AND REALLY YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SOMETHING GOING ON.

I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SEE IT AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF IT SO I'M GOING TO GO WITH THE RECONSIDERATION ON THIS MOTION .

JOHN WILL DO THINGS I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT IF WE WERE TO DENY WE'RE DENYING BASED ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE ORIGINAL PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD MOVE FORWARD. SO THEY REALLY WE ONLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE ANY CHANGES THAT THEY MAY BE. I GUESS FROM MY VIEWPOINT I THOUGHT WE WERE FAIRLY CLEAR AT THAT ORIGINAL PUBLIC HEARING AS TO THE THINGS THAT WE HAD CONCERNS WITH AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASSUMING THE APPLICANT WAS GOING TO AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO BE ADDRESSING WITH STAFF AND. WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE RESULT OF THAT CONVERSATION IS. THAT WAS REALLY THE REASON WHY I WAS VOTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEFERRAL IS BECAUSE I ASSUME THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HEARD AT THE ORIGINAL EXCUSE ME THE ORIGINAL HEARING THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD TONIGHT. WE MAY BE ASSUMING THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CHANGE BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL BY DEFERRING AT LEAST WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THAT THEY'VE LOOKED AT OTHER THINGS. IF THEY HAVEN'T THEN AT THAT POINT WE CAN TAKE ACTION TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY BUT AT LEAST THAT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR WHAT WHAT THEY'VE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF AND WHAT CHANGES IF ANY THEY'RE PROPOSING.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHY IS IT APPROPRIATE THE MOTION IS TO MOVE RECONSIDERATION AS WELL BUT MAYBE NECESSARILY I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE REASON FOR INITIAL DEFERRAL AND BUT FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT NOT MUCH HAS HAPPENED.

OTHER THAN WE HEARD THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS NOT FOR THIS AT ALL.

SO WITHOUT KNOWING THEIR REASONING OR LOGIC I'D SAY WE BACK THEM UP AND SAY YOU KNOW WHO WE CAN GO AGAINST THEIR WISHES SO SPEAK AND AND IN DENYING WELL I I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT IT'S SPECULATION I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WON'T BE COMMENTING I DO KNOW THAT THE NEXT AMENDMENT OF IT AND I DEFINITELY THINK THIS ISSUE NEEDS TO COME BACK BEFORE COMMISSION THERE IS A RISK THAT IF WE DENY THE APPLICATION IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS WITHOUT COMING BACK THAT'S HAPPENED BEFORE ARE THERE THE LAND USE COMMITTEE CAN MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD BE REMANDED OR IF YOU WILL REVERT BACK TO FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS A FIRST STEP SUCH THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND THE CONCERNS WE HAVE AREN'T BYPASSED BUT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROCESS ULTIMATELY GETTING TO COUNTY COUNCIL SO WE HAVE TWO CHOICES HERE I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON EITHER WE'LL GO WITH WHAT WE HAVE UNLESS THERE'S SOME FURTHER COMMENT PRIOR TO THAT REQUEST.

JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION, ED, IF WE IF THIS GOES TO LYNN LYNN YOU KNOW COMMITTEE I DO NOT ON DENIAL DENIAL YOU'RE SAYING THAT YES THEY HAVE IT WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW TO SEND IT BACK TO IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. IT'S THEIR DECISION OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WOULD GO RIGHT TO TO THE YOU KNOW IT'S UP TO THE IT'S UP TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE. THEY'LL COME BACK TO US REGARDLESS. THEY MAY NOT AND THEY MAY DECIDE UNTIL IT'S THE WHOLE THAT'S WHAT I'M THAT'S MY POINT. IT'S A RISK OF MY CHARACTER

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AND I THINK I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER AND I'M I THINK IN MOST THESE CASES IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF INITIATED LIKE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A NEW TREE ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEY YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN IN A CASE LIKE THIS BUT THAT IS A POSSIBILITY FOR THEM TOO. SO THE SAFE ROUTE IS TO GRANT THE REQUEST OF A DEFERRAL IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I'M I'M NEARLY SAYING THAT THE ONE ADVANTAGE SHOULD I SEE IS IT YOU KNOW IT MEANS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD WEIGH IN ON THE CONVERSATION WHATEVER CHANGES ARE MADE TO THE OKAY THANK YOU PLAN WHAT DO YOU WANT. WELL IT'S WHAT MOTION YOU WANT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE RECONSIDERATION OF THE IS IT APPROPRIATE TO MOVE FOR RECONSIDERATION INTRODUCED APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER EITHER IS APPROPRIATE OKAY LET'S MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER FOR RECONSIDERATION OF THE VOTE RIGHT ALL RIGHT AND DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT I'LL ALSO DON'T HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR RECONSIDERATION MOTION OR OUR PRIOR DENIAL OF THE DEFERRAL REQUEST OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TAX ORDINANCE MAPPING ZONING MAP AMENDMENT YOU THINK ABOUT WELL THE IT WAS DENIED WE DENIED THE DEFERRAL REQUEST IN THE FIRST VOTE THE RECONSIDERATION IS TAKE ANOTHER VOTE ON THAT AFTER WE'VE HAD OUR DISCUSSION NOT APPROVAL OF DEFERRAL RIGHT NOW IS THIS RECONSIDERATION OF THE ADDITIONAL VOTES THAT FAILED IT MAY CHANGE AGAIN CORRECT? YEAH WE'RE NOT READY. OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE RECONSIDERATION TO APPROVED THE DEFERRAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST UNTIL THE DECEMBER MEETING RAISE YOUR HAND. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.

ALL RIGHT, THE MOTION PASSES. I HATE TO BE A STICKLER. IS THAT A MOTION TO? REVISIT THE MOTION OR IS THAT THE ACTUAL MOTION THAT THAT WAS MY INTENT WAS THAT WAS THE ACTUAL MOTION TO DEFER IT. OKAY UNTIL DECEMBER A GOOD DISCUSSION THE VERY PERTINENT ISSUES AND VERY VERY THOROUGH SO I THINK WE'VE A MESSAGE ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT WE EXPECT IN THE DECEMBER MEETING. AND WE THANK MR. JOHNSON FOR BEING HERE AND YOUR PATIENCE WITH US AS WELL. THANK MY BROTHER AND THANK YOU.

YES. AND SOMETHING THAT WE ALL LEARN SOMETHING EVERY WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE WORK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT WE'LL WE'LL MOVE ON AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN DECEMBER.

[8. TEXT AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE 1 (GENERAL PROVISIONS), DIVISION 1.3 (APPLICABILITY AND JURISDICTION), SECTION 1.3.50 (EXEMPTIONS) OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE (CDC) TO PROVIDE EXEMPTIONS TO ADDRESS COUNTY PUBLIC SERVICES USES]

A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT DECORUM AND A LOT OF PROVIDE EXEMPTIONS TO ADDRESS COUNTY PUBLIC SERVICE USES THIS MERGER YES THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERESTING CASE FOR SOME OF THE MEMBERS. THIS MAY SEEM A LITTLE FAMILIAR BECAUSE WAS BROUGHT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE JANUARY 6TH, 2020 MEETING. SO THIS IS ALL RIGHT.

SO WE WERE JUST HEARING NEWS ABOUT COVID AT THAT POINT AND IT WAS SOME FAR OFF.

SO THIS IS AN INTERESTING TIME THIS IS A PROVISION IN WELL SO I'LL GIVE YOU A REAL QUICK BACKGROUND OF WHAT HAPPENED. IT WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED I THINK IT WAS EIGHT OR 6 TO 2 TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THIS AMENDMENT GOT TO COUNCIL COUNCIL MADE A FEW CHANGES BUT THEN THIS WAS NOT THE YOU KNOW WE WERE JUST GETTING USED TO VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND THIS WAS NEVER PROPERLY RATIFIED. SO IT WENT THROUGH THREE READINGS OF COUNTY COUNCIL WITH SOME ADDITIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIDN'T SEE AND THAT'S WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW HERE. BUT THIS ENTIRE IS WHAT'S

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IT'S A SPOT ZONING ISSUE THAT REALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT OF YOU KNOW YOU SAID IT'S NEEDED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY REASONS. THAT'S KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S IN HERE AND I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS QUESTIONS. YEAH JUST JUST A COUPLE AND MAYBE CLARIFY IN UNDER THE EXEMPTIONS UNDER PARAGRAPH B IT SAYS YOU KNOW THIS MAY BE EXEMPT FROM THE PROVISIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE WHEN AN EMERGENCY EXISTS WHAT TYPE OF EMERGENCY DOES STAFF ENVISION TO WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EMERGENCY TYPE OF SITUATION WHERE INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS WAS AN EMAIL UNDERSTOOD YOU JUST SAID TO ME THE WAY THIS VERBIAGE SAYS IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S WE GOT TO PUT THIS CELL TOWER UP RIGHT AWAY OR ELSE YOU KNOW, MY MOM BE ABLE TO CALL HER GRANDSON SOMEWHERE.

I JUST I'M JUST REAL CLEAR WHY THAT HAS TO BE IN THERE LIKE THAT WHERE IT SAYS AN EMERGENCY EXISTS. IS IT AN EMERGENCY OR IS IT JUST A A STREAMLINING PROCESS TO GET THE PUBLIC ACCESS? WELL, I GUESS MY IT'S A STREAMLINED PROCESS.

IT HAS TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THE COUNTY WOULD REALLY BE IN A POSITION TO EXPLAIN THE EMERGENCY AND IF THERE ARE ANY EXEMPTIONS THAT WOULD COME THROUGH THE YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC OKAY SO SO IT'S NOT IT'S LEAVING THE PROVISION OPEN BUT IT'S NOT WRITING A BLANK CHECK BECAUSE IT PUTS THE COUNTY IN A POSITION WHERE WE NEED TO EXPLAIN TO PLANNING COMMISSION COUNTY COUNCIL EXACTLY WHY THIS FACILITY IS NEEDED AT THIS LOCATION. OKAY IT WOULD ALSO BE AN ISSUE WITH EMINENT DOMAIN AT THAT POINT IF LIKE WE SAID IT'S AN EMERGENCY CONDITION REZONING WITH THE COUNTY HAVE TO GO IN AT THAT TIME AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. THAT WOULD BE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MATTER SO I MEAN IT COULD BE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THE COUNTY ALREADY OWNS OR THE COUNTY AN OPTION TO PURCHASE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER EMINENT DOMAIN IS NECESSARY OR, YOU

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I KNOW THE COUNTY REALLY TRIES AVOID, YOU KNOW, CONDEMNATION OF PROPERTY BUT THAT'S THAT ACTION IS SEPARATE THAN WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED HERE THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS YES YEAH SO DOESN'T RECOMMEND THIS CHANGE? YES.

I MEAN AND I THINK I FEEL STRONGLY ESPECIALLY WITH THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS IT ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN AND, PUTS THE BURDEN ON THE APPLICANT IN A WAY IT'S LIKE A SPECIAL USE. THE APPLICANT HAS THE BURDEN TO EXPLAIN WHY WHY IT'S AN EMERGENCY. IT NEEDS TO LOCATE THIS LOCATION.

AND SO IF IT WAS A FIRE STATION THEY MIGHT EXPLAIN ASSUME RATINGS IN A COMMUNITY YOU KNOW THAT YOU KNOW IT'S NEEDS IN THIS LOCATION BECAUSE THIS OTHER COMMUNITY IS UNDERSERVED KNOW THOSE THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION WOULD BE REQUIRED YOU KNOW FROM THE COUNTY OR ANY OF YOU KNOW I MEAN ANY INFORMATION NECESSARY TO THE PROCESS OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THAT'S THE THE QUESTION IS IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE PIPELINE THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT? WELL YOU KNOW, YOU KEEP SAYING FIRE STATIONS I'M ENVISIONING A FIRE STATION SOMEWHERE THAT SEEM TO BE THE EASIEST BECAUSE YEAH I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY YEAH GOOD TO CHECK OUT CHUCK ATKINSON THE COMMUNITY DIVISION DIRECTOR FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY.

SO I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THEY CAN ALREADY DO IT. THIS IS ALREADY LAW.

THIS IS ON THE BOOKS SO THE ONLY THING THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED TONIGHT IS THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA SO COUNTY HAS SAID THIS WAS CONSIDERED THIS WAS AN EXCELLENT IDEA TO ADD LAYERS TO YOUR POINT ALL OF THE QUESTIONS YOU WERE ASKING MR. ROSS JUST TO HIM BUT THAT'S EXACTLY THE REASON COUNTY COUNCIL WANTS THIS IN THERE IS TO ADD THAT LAYER SCRUTINY AND WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE COME THROUGH YOU CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AND ADD THOSE LAYERS OF SCRUTINY AND PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THE PLAN BUT THE COUNTY COUNCIL WANTS US TO BACK AND ADD THIS TO ADD THOSE LAYERS. IT WOULD SEEM TO ME IF THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THEY WOULD DO IT BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT UNILATERALLY AND THEY'RE WANTING TO ADD THIS TO HAVE THOSE LAYERS PLACE JUST TO INVOLVE THE PUBLIC AND TO HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL IN PLACE. THANK YOU. THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

YES, I'M GOING TO MOVE APPROVAL . WELL, THAT'S COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS ANY THAT I'M LEARNING NOW.

YEAH. MR. MERCHANT. I NOTE THAT THE SITE PLAN WILL ACCOMPANY THE APPLICATION FOR THE EMERGENCY USE OF THE PROPERTY CORRECT AND COUNTY PUBLIC SERVICES A SITE PLAN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STANDARDS CONTAINED HEREIN MUST BE AS IN THEIR YES YES. SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO LIKE A SPECIAL USE WHERE WILL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OR COMMENT OR APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE BUT RECOMMENDATION ON THE SITE PLAN IS THAT PART OF THE I CAN HEAR IT YEAH ALL OF THAT WOULD BE UNDER CONSIDERATION AT THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE NOT ONLY THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THIS USE SHOULD BE PERMITTED TO LOCATE HERE BUT THE DETAILS OF IT AS WELL FROM WHAT IS THE REASON ASK THAT BECAUSE I BELIEVE CURRENTLY WE DON'T LOOK AT THAT WE'RE NOT AUTHORIZED TO LOOK WE NOT PART OF OUR PROCESS TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S YEAH AND THIS IS NOT A YOU KNOW IT'S NOT A REZONING IT'S ACTUALLY PROVISION THAT'S LOOKING AT A SITE SPECIFIC PUBLIC USE AND TO THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW OFTEN THIS HAS HAPPEN, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE EXPANDING OUR AGENDA PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY. I MEAN A NUMBER OF CASES COME FORWARD ANNUALLY OR NOW MY CHUCK SHAKING HIS HEAD I DON'T I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE A OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS I'M NOT SAYING EVERYONE BUT A LOT THEM DO PERMIT YOU KNOW THEY HAVE A PROVISION FOR GOVERNMENT OFFICES GOVERNMENT FACILITIES NOT ALL OF THEM.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT YOU KNOW, IN MANY CASES THIS IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT TO THE PLANNING BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY PERMITTED YOU SEE. BUT I HAVE TO GO TO THE ZBA FOR SPECIAL USE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT RELATED TO HOW IT'S IN THE ZONING DISTRICT BUT NOT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WELL, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ADVOCATES OF FULL TRANSPARENCY AND ALLOWING THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK. AND SO THIS TAKES ACTION INTO CONSIDERATION. THERE ARE TWO THINGS IN THE ONLINE PORTION THOUGH THAT

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WELL THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE TO PROVIDE EXEMPTIONS I THINK AGAIN THE TITLE OF IT TO BROAD EXEMPTION TO ADDRESS COUNTY PUBLIC USERS THAT'S WHAT I SAID OKAY SO SECOND ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION ANY NOT OF APPROVAL WAS TAKEN BY YEAH I THINK DAN SECOND THAT YES. OKAY, LET'S GO ON TO OUR FINAL

[9. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO ADD THE BEAUFORT COUNTY HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS AS AN APPENDIX TO THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN]

SO IN 2023 SOUTH CAROLINA GENERAL ASSEMBLY AMENDED THEIR CODE AND CREATED ACT 57 WHICH ALLOWS THE TAX TO BE ELIGIBLE SUPPORT TO SUPPORT WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THE NEW LAW ALLOWS UP TO 15% OF BOTH STATE AND LOCAL AID TAX TO BE USED TO SUPPORT WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR THOSE EARNING BETWEEN 30% AND 120% OF AREA AND MEDIA AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

HOWEVER TO ENABLE THIS THE COUNTY MUST COMPLETE AND ADOPT A HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THIS ANALYSIS WAS JUST COMPLETED AND I HAVE MS. TAMMY HERE TO PRESENT GOOD EVENING EVERYONE FOR HAVING ME. I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN HERE. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU NOT SEE THIS I BE SHARING THE PRESENTATION REMOTELY SO I APOLOGIZE. I CAN'T BE THERE WITH YOU IN PERSON. I KNOW WE HAD I TRIED TO GET THIS ON THE SCHEDULE BUT THEN DEBBIE GOT IN ALL OF OUR WAYS WITH THE STORM. SO I DO APOLOGIZE THAT WE DIDN'T GET THIS IN FRONT OF YOU SOONER BUT I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE.

I THINK I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS YOU PROBABLY SAW IS ABOUT 60 SOMETHING PAGES SO IT'S PRETTY IN-DEPTH BASED ON WORKFORCE HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOW IT ALIGNS WITH THE NEEDS IN VIEW FOR COUNTY BUT WE'VE REALLY ALREADY STATED YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT OCCURRED THANKS TO SENATOR TOM DAVIS LAST YEAR TO INTRODUCE THIS BILL TO SUPPORT WORKFORCE HOUSING WE ACTUALLY GOT THIS PASSED TO SUPPORT OPPORTUNITIES AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES THAT WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY ELIGIBLE TO SUPPORT WORKFORCE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE COMMUNITY AND SO AS MENTIONED ONE OF THEIR MAIN REQUIREMENTS IN ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO THE PERCENTAGE OF FUNDING FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING IS TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ADD THE HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WAS ACTUALLY A PART OF THE ACTUAL ACT 57 THAT REQUIRED THIS PARTICULAR ANALYSIS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT. I THINK YOU KNOW WITH FADED SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT'S WHAT'S

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THIS LEGISLATION DOES SUNSET UNLESS IT IS RENEWED. SO AFTER DECEMBER 31ST 2030 IT WOULD NO LONGER BE IN EFFECT UNLESS IT WAS EXTENDED OR RENEWED OR PUT IN PLACE IN PERPETUITY. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT ABOUT SIX YEARS OR SO TO UTILIZE THIS RESOURCE FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THEN AGAIN AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ON BEFORE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITY CAN UTILIZE THE STATE ACCOMMODATIONS ACT WE WE HAVE TO COMPLETE THIS HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS AND HAVE IT ADOPTED AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO AGAIN THE HOUSING ANALYSIS ALSO HAS TO BE SHARED AND PRESENTED TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT ENTITIES AS PART OF THE REQUIRED OF THE LEGISLATION.

IN ADDITION TO UPDATING AND AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ,IT ALSO HAS TO BE OBVIOUSLY ADOPTED PER ORDINANCE BY COUNCIL WHICH WOULD BE ONCE IT'S AMENDED BY YOU ALL ADDED TO THE COMP PLAN BUT IT ALSO HAS TO BE NOTIFY AND NOTIFICATION HAS TO GO TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AS WELL AS THE TOURISM AND EXPENDITURE REVIEW COMMITTEE.

THEY ALSO MUST RECEIVE THIS AS WELL. SO ONCE THAT HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS IS APPROVED AND MOVES IT WOULD ALSO BE NOTIFIED TO THEN AS WELL.

WE ALSO AS I MENTIONED RATIFY THIS AS PART OF THE CURRENT PLAN.

WE ALSO SHARE IT WITH LOCAL BUILDERS, DEVELOPERS AND PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

A LOT OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY PROVIDED INPUT ON THIS ANALYSIS SO WE WORKED WITH THE REALTORS ASSOCIATION IN THE REGION AND SOME OF THE LOCAL BUILDERS TO ACTUALLY GET SOME OF THIS DATA AND ANALYSIS. I WAS TRYING TO GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND THIS IS ACTUALLY IN THE LEGISLATION AT THE END OF THE HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS IS THE FULL LEGISLATION THAT WAS ADOPTED BUT REALLY WHAT IT SUMS UP IS WE HAVE TO REALLY MAKE THE NEXUS BETWEEN WORKFORCE HOUSING NEEDS AND THE LOCAL ECONOMY THAT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS.

AND SO THE GOAL IS TO IN ANALYSIS SHARE THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT, THE COST TO REHABILITATE IN A DISCUSSION AROUND THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF EXISTING HOMES FINANCING AND PURCHASING AND DEVELOPING HOUSING ON SOME OF THOSE PATHS. WE ALSO WANT TALK ABOUT WHAT THE COUNTY IS ALREADY DOING RELATED TO WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS IT RELATES TO MAYBE SOME OF THE BARRIERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THEN OF COURSE JUST HOW THIS PARTICULAR RESOURCE ANALYSIS SUPPORTS LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS. THE GOAL OF THE ASSESSMENT OF THE ANALYSIS IS ACTUALLY JUST TO PROVIDE REASONABLE ESTIMATES OF HOUSING COSTS AND THIS IS EXPLICIT LANGUAGE OBVIOUSLY FROM THE REQUIREMENT IS FOR YOU ALL AND CERTAINLY I'M SURE YOU SAW THIS IN THE LEGISLATION AND OBVIOUSLY CAN GIVE THIS PRESENTATION AND IT GAVE US A COUPLE OF WAYS DO IT ONE WAS WE COULD ACTUALLY IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND PUT LIKE BUDGETS IN THERE AND EXAMPLES THERE BUT AS YOU KNOW THE COUNTY'S VERY DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC HOMEOWNERSHIP PROJECT VERSUS A RENTAL PROJECT. AND SO IT ALLOWED US TO JUST TALK GENERALLY HOUSING COSTS AND PROVIDE BRIEF DESCRIPTIONS ANALYSIS ABOUT ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING THAT COULD DEVELOPED. AND SO AGAIN THERE WAS REALLY NO STRUCTURE OR SPECIFIC OUTLINE IN WHICH WAS OUTLINED IN THE ANALYSIS EXCEPT TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT OF BOTH RENTAL HOUSING AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERSHIP AS WELL.

SO AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE THE FULL REPORT THIS IS A POINT IN TIME ANALYSIS.

SO YOU WILL NOTE THAT WE USE NOT ONLY INFORMATION FROM THE CURRENT PLAN BUT ALSO INFORMATION FROM PAST PREVIOUS HOUSING STUDIES IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE BOEING STUDY WHICH WAS A BIG NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT WAS DONE BY THE COUNTY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN ADDITION TO KIND INFORMATION FROM THE REALTORS

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SO WE'RE KIND OF HAVING AN ECONOMY THE EMPLOYMENT SECTOR THREE WAS REALLY LOOKING AT THE HOUSING MARKET AND ITS CONDITIONS OR WAS REALLY LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT COSTS. SO IS ACTUALLY CAUSING MAYBE SOME OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH HOUSING ONLY JUST LAND BUT ALSO DEVELOPMENT COSTS. AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS REALLY AROUND WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND REMOVING BARRIERS TO DEVELOPING MORE HOUSING AND HOW THE COUNTY ACTUALLY ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE ALREADY. SO JUST LEVEL BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE ALL NIGHT FOR ME TO GO OVER 6580 FOR THE HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS ALTHOUGH I KNOW IT'S INTERESTING READING BUT YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO LOOK AT AND TRYING TO TELL STORY OF WHY THIS ACCOMMODATIONS TAX FUNDING COULD BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY AND AGAIN IT ALLOWS THE COUNTY TO USE THE FUNDING THAT WILL BE A BUDGET IN COUNTY COUNCIL DECISION OF HOW MUCH FUNDING WOULD BE ALLOCATED AND WHAT TYPES OF PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS THAT THEY MIGHT USE THE FUNDING FOR THIS JUST ENABLES THE COUNTY AND NOW ACCESS THE SOURCE FOR A DIFFERENT USE THAT WASN'T PREVIOUSLY SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR IT DOESN'T DICTATE HOW THE COUNTY WOULD USE THE FUNDS OR WHEN THE COUNTY WOULD USE THE FUNDS OR IF THEY WOULD USE IT BUT JUST ENABLING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO WE WANTED TO LOOK AT IS THE POPULATION GROWTH AND OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF GROWTH IN DEEPER COUNTY WE'RE SEEING NOT ONLY IN THE COUNTY BUT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA AND JUST HOW THAT'S IMPACTING AS YOU ALL KNOW, SUPPLY AND DEMAND. SO AS MORE PEOPLE COME TO THE COMMUNITY INVENTORIES LOW BUILDING HASN'T KEPT UP WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH.

EVEN IN THE BOEING STUDY WE SAW THAT INCREASES IN ANTICIPATED INCREASES BY 2027 WOULD BE ABOUT A 225,000 POPULATION ALREADY. YOU KNOW RECENT NUMBERS SHOWING YOU'RE WELL OVER 200,000 POPULATION AND SO WE SEE THAT ESCALATING WHICH IS GOING TO FURTHER PUT PRESSURE ON THE HOUSING DEMAND ESPECIALLY THE THE WORKFORCE IN THE COMMUNITY . BUT CERTAINLY AGAIN THE SECOND KIND OF CHAPTER WAS AROUND ECONOMIC AND A FULL ANALYSIS. THE GOAL HERE WAS TO REALLY START TO PULL OUT AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE EMPLOYMENT SECTORS THE KEY EMPLOYMENT SECTORS IN THE COMMUNITY WHICH WE KNOW THAT HOSPITALITY STILL REMAINS ONE OF THE TOP EMPLOYMENT SECTORS BLUE FOR COUNTY OBVIOUSLY BETWEEN LEISURE AND HOSPITALITY ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT IS STILL IS ONE OF THE LARGEST EMPLOYMENT SECTORS AND AS WELL AS WE KNOW MILITARY IS STILL A HIGH EMPLOYMENT. SO WE LOOKED AT THAT JUST LOOKING AT FOOD ACCOMMODATIONS ,RETAIL HEALTH CARE THOSE ARE ALL OBVIOUSLY HIGH GROWTH EMPLOYMENT SECTORS AND JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT 35% IN THE HOSPITALITY COMMUNITY IN MANY CASES NOT ENOUGH TO AFFORD WITH AN AVERAGE APARTMENT OR AN AVERAGE HOUSE YOU CAN SEE HERE WITH WAGES THE ON THE SECOND GRAPHIC ON THE BOTTOM YOU KNOW THOSE ACCOMMODATE FOOD STILL REMAIN PRETTY LOW COMPARED OTHER EMPLOYMENT SECTORS AND SO AS HOUSING COSTS CONTINUE TO ESCALATE, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO TO MATCH IT UP. AND SO ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS TO REALLY CREATE THAT NEXUS . THERE'S A HIGH POPULATION IN THIS PARTICULAR EMPLOYMENT SECTOR WHO EARN SOME OF THE LOWEST WAGES AND OUR HOUSING COSTS CONTINUE TO ESCALATE. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO BALANCE THAT? THIS IS A THERE IS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION, THE NATIONAL HOUSING CONFERENCE.

IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE LARGEST INDUSTRY INDICATORS AND THEY DO AN ANALYSIS YEAR TO KIND OF IDENTIFY PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. THEY CALL IT WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO I NEED TO EARN IF I LIVE IN COUNTY TO AFFORD KIND OF THE AVERAGE OR MARKET RATE APARTMENT OR SORT OF WHAT THEY CONSIDER THE AVERAGE HOUSE ?

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WE RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF OUR WORKERS AND ACCOMMODATIONS WORKERS ARE NOT MAKING THAT AND SO THIS JUST KIND OF SHARES WITH YOU KIND OF WHO'S COST BURDEN IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO COMPARES WHAT QUALITIES HAMPTON AND JASPER SO ALTHOUGH WE KNOW THAT THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE GROWING AS WELL WITH MORE POPULATION GROWTH WE STILL THAT A LOT OF FOLKS IN COUNTY OUR COST BURDEN WHICH MEANS THEY'RE MAYBE HAVING TO MAKE DIFFICULT CHOICES BETWEEN THEIR HOUSING AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY NEED THIS GRAPH PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AS DECREASE OVER TIME IN THE COUNTY AND THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU THE PROJECTION ON IT'S CHANGED OVER TIME SIMILARLY WHEN IT COMES TO HOMEOWNERSHIP THAT'S FINE WITH THE MORE ABOUT RENTAL JUST LOOKING AGAIN AT THE PERCENTAGE OF FOLKS THAT ARE COST BURDEN WHO TRY TO BUY A HOME WE SAW RECENTLY MEDIAN SALES PRICE INCREASE OVER 8% TO ALMOST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WHICH OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN GET VARIANCE OF IN THE MARKETPLACE.

AND THEN AGAIN SOME SOME OF THOSE ARE EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE AS WELL.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THIS SORT OF HISTORICAL MEDIAN SALES PRICE CONTINUING TO ACCELERATE OVER THE YEAR. SO AGAIN THE IDEA OF IDENTIFYING FUNDING SOURCES AND OPPORTUNITIES INCREASE WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW IS A GOAL IN THE CURRENT PLAN HOUSING ELEMENT. THIS WOULD BE A RESOURCE THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY HELP SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS AND DEVELOPERS THAT ARE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT WOULD BE REALLY UP TO COUNCIL AND THE COUNTY TO DECIDE WHO THAT IS AND HOW THEY USE THOSE FUNDS.

BUT THIS JUST SHOWS WITH YOU KIND OF WHERE HOMEOWNERSHIP CHALLENGES ARE.

THE OTHER THING THAT THE HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS THE LEGISLATION ASKS US TO LOOK AT WHICH IS OVERALL CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO DO IS HOW DO WE THESE BARRIERS AND REMOVE THESE COSTS AND ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE CAN BE DOING TO ADDRESS THAT? AND THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE IN OUR CONTROL AS AS COUNTIES AND CITIES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT WHICH IS THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION, WHETHER IT BE LABOR, MATERIAL COSTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THINGS THAT WE KNOW HAVE ACCELERATED ESPECIALLY POST-COVID.

IN ADDITION, WE RECOGNIZE THAT LAND COSTS ARE HIGH. WE HEARD FROM SOME DEVELOPERS AND SAID, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE AS MUCH AS $500,000 AN ACRE IN SOME COMMUNITIES ESPECIALLY WE KNOW AND DO FOR COUNTY IN PARTICULAR WE HAVE THE LIMITATION ON BECAUSE OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AS WELL AS THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS THAT CAN'T BE DEVELOPED NOR

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THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME DENSITY BONUS INITIATIVES THAT THE COUNTY'S IMPLEMENTING.

YOU GUYS HAVE LOOKED AT YOUR IMPACT THESE AND PROVIDED SOME RESOURCES FOR THAT SO COUNTY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY BEEN DOING A LOT AROUND THIS ISSUE. THEY REALLY WERE INSTRUMENTAL AS YOU KNOW IN HELPING TO ESTABLISH THE DO PROJECTS FOR HOUSING TRUST FUND WHICH IS ANOTHER RESOURCE AND TOOL FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO AGAIN THE COUNTY IS ALREADY DOING SOMETHING THAT NOT ONLY PROMOTE AND PRODUCE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT ALSO TO LOOK TO PRESERVE THE HOUSING THAT'S ALREADY THERE. SO AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF THE LAST CHAPTER OF THE BOOK. IT'S SORT OF LIKE A BOOK, RIGHT? AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUTH NIGHT TO DO IS AS PART OF THE LEGISLATION ACT 57 THAT WOULD NOW ALLOW AND ACCOMMODATIONS TAX AS AN ELIGIBLE USE FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE COUNTY IF THE COUNCIL WERE SO DESIRE TO DO SO IS TO ADOPT THIS HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO THEN ENABLE ACCOMMODATIONS REVENUE TO SUPPORT THESE TYPES OF INITIATIVES AND MEET THESE NEEDS GOOD IS THE END OF IT AND BE READY FOR US FOR QUESTIONS QUESTIONS. OKAY SO THE BEGINNING OF IT SAYS THAT WE NEED TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN ORDER TO PUT THE HRA AS AN ATTACHMENT I GUESS. BUT THEN IT SAID LATER THAT YOU NEEDED AN ORDINANCE FOR THE ACO THAT WAS CONFUSED BY THAT LITTLE BIT THE COUNCIL THE COUNCIL SO THE HOUSING IMPACT SO PART OF THE PROCESS IN WHICH TO ADOPT IT AS A AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN THE COUNTY COUNCIL WILL NEED TO ADOPT IT AS WELL BUT IT NEEDS TO GO BY WHATEVER BODY GOVERNING BODY THAT THE PROCESS IS FOR THE COUNTY.

SO AS PLANNING COMMISSION YOU ADOPT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THIS IS AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS WOULD THEN BE A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN THE COUNTY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL FOR COUNCIL TO ADOPT THIS AS WELL TO ACTUALLY UTILIZE ACCOMMODATIONS TAX FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO ADOPT IT AS AN ORDINANCE CORRECT? YES.

I'LL LET ROBERT SPEAK TO THAT PROCESS. YEAH I MEAN THAT'S THE THE METHOD OF OF HOW THEY ADOPTED WOULD BE AN APPENDIX TO THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN BUT THEY HAVE A IT'S ADOPTED AS AN ORDINANCE OKAY BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S LIKE LIKE A ZONING ORDINANCE. IT'S IT'S THE MECHANISM THEY USED TO ADOPT IT.

YEAH I WAS WONDERING OKAY. YEAH THANK YOU FOR ROBERT HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS HOW IS IT RECEIVED TO THE VARIETY OF STAKEHOLDER GROUPS THAT YOU WORKED WITH? I THINK THERE'S A LIST OF NINE OR TEN OF THEM SO I MEAN REALLY WELL I MEAN I MEAN I THINK THAT THERE I WILL WILL JUST SAY TO YOU THAT A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE SEEN THIS AS A AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AN ELIGIBLE SOURCE BECAUSE OF THE NEXUS BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY BEING SO HEAVILY ACCOMODATIONS AND TOURISM SEEING THIS IS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE MORE WORKFORCE, CREATE ADDITIONAL AS YOU GUYS MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW FEDERAL FUNDS STATE FUNDS SOME OF THESE FUNDING SOURCES THAT COUNTIES LIKE YOU CAN ACCESS HAVE A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS, A LOT OF LIMITATIONS ON HOW THEY CAN BE USED.

THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO BE THE COUNTY'S MONEY THAT THEY CAN HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY IF THEY WANT TO USE IT TO SUPPORT HABITAT IN A CERTAIN PROJECT IF THEY WANT TO USE IT FOR A RENTAL PROJECT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. SO THE COMMUNITY IS VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A SOURCE THAT THE COUNTY CAN CONTROL NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, NOT THE STATE GOVERNMENT. OBVIOUSLY ONCE IT'S PASSED AND IT'S A LOCAL RESOURCE THEN YOU GUYS CAN PRIORITIZE IT THE WAY YOU SEE FIT.

AND SO IT WAS VERY POSITIVE. A QUICK FOLLOW UP. SO IN YOUR OPINION DOES THE COUNTY HAVING THIS PLAN EMBEDDED IN THE GREEN DEVELOPMENT CODE ENHANCE THE

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THEY'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. AND SO THIS CREATES ANOTHER FINANCE LEVERAGING TOOL FOR OTHER FUNDS TO MAYBE COME TO THE COMMITTEE THAT WOULD NOT NORMALLY I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ASKING OTHER QUESTIONS HOW OFTEN DOES THE I HAVE TO BE UPDATED? IT'S IT'S A ONE TIME ADOPTION AND OF COURSE UNLESS THEY CHANGE THE LEGISLATION YOU'RE ASKING SEVEN WHICH IS TO SUNSET IN 2030 IT'S THE GOAL OF IT WAS TO DO HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS AS PART OF ALLOWING IT TO BE USED AT THIS STAGE.

SO THERE'S BEEN NO OTHER AMENDMENTS TO ACTIVITY TO INDICATE THAT THIS WOULD NEED TO BE UPDATED. AND OF COURSE THIS IS TO BE A PART OF YOUR YOUR 2040 PLAN.

YEAH I'D. LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT TO YOUR QUESTION.

EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT BECAUSE IT IS A DATED DOCUMENT SUCH THAT YOU KNOW THE DATA GOES BACK TO 2018 AND IT'S A PROJECTION BASED ON STUDIES THAT WERE DONE EVEN PRIOR TO THE CREATION OF ACT 57 2023. SO I WOULD YOU KNOW, THE CONDITIONS AS EVERYBODY KNOWS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ARE JUST ATROCIOUS AND THEY'RE GETTING WORSE.

THE MARKET IS JUST NOT TOLERATING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND CONDITIONS WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS ON THE INCREASE WITH INFLATIONARY PRICING I MEAN THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE TACKLED WITH THIS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THIS BE UPDATED PERIODICALLY AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATES WE UPDATE EVERY FIVE YEARS AND SO THAT'LL BE COMING FORWARD IN 2025 AND THEN JUST STATEMENT OF THE CURRENT CONDITIONS AND OF THE PROGRESS IF ANY WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE FROM ONE PERIOD TO THE NEXT.

I'M A BIG ADVOCATE ON STRATEGIC PLANNING. THIS IS A STATEMENT OF CONDITIONS WITH SOME ANALYSIS, SOME RESTATEMENT OF THE DIRECTION THAT THE COUNTY HAS BEGUN TO TAKE BASED ON THIS COMPREHENSIVE WORK ON THE 2040 PLAN.

BUT CONDITIONS CHANGE. THERE'S A CONDITION HERE WE DO TOUCHED ON TONIGHT WHERE THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUIRE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT BUT SEEKS IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND ULTIMATE APPROVAL. UH I WOULD LIKE THEM TO RETHINK THAT ISSUE AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S TIME THEY CERTAINLY ARE YOU LOCAL ECONOMY IS DEPENDENT ON GETTING SKILLED WORKERS GETTING PEOPLE EVERY EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO LIVE HERE WHO IS LIVING HERE THE ABILITY TO STAY HERE AND TO MAKE A HOME AND FAMILY.

I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT DOCUMENT. I DIDN'T READ EVERY PAGE THOROUGHLY SEVERAL TIMES IT'S IN THE NEWS CONSTANTLY AT THE STATE, AT THE LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL AND IN CERTAIN THING IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO PAY FOR ATTENTION TO AND I PUT IT AS A STATIC DOCUMENT THAT BETTER REQUIREMENT FOR FUNDING SOURCE I'D LIKE IT TO BE AN ACTIVE PART OF ANY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE TERMS OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AS WE'VE LEARNED AS WE GO WITH ALL THE OPERATIONS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE THAT'S MY SPEECH.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I JUST GOT TWO REAL BRIEF ONES IN THE VARIOUS YOU DID THAT YOU SAID THE COMMUNITY RECEIVED THIS VERY WELL AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE IT I'VE READ THROUGH IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.

THE QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS THE BEAUFORT HOUSING AUTHORITY PRESENTED WITH THIS DID YOU GET A CUT FROM THEM OR WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF BECAUSE THEY'RE PARTICULARLY DOWN ON OUR NECK OF THE WOODS RECESSION ALL OF THEM LADIES ON ST HELENS ISLAND IS A VERY RURAL AREA AND IT'S A I MEAN THERE ARE PROTECTIVE ORDERS DOWN THERE TO PREVENT A LOT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING. BUT THERE WAS EVEN A DISCUSSION BY COUNCILMAN GLOVER BACK IN

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SO DID YOU GET A BUY IN FROM THOSE FOLKS ON THIS AT ALL? YEAH, WELL I DO KNOW JULIE I NEED JULIE'S NEW SHE'S THE NEW COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY DIRECTOR AND SO WE HAD CONVERSATIONS AGAIN WE HAVE NOT PRESENTED THIS TO HER OBVIOUSLY THIS IS YOUR YOUR DOCUMENT BUT I HAD TALKED WITH HER ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS. I THINK SHE WAS COMING ON BOARD RIGHT WHEN WE WERE KIND OF WRAPPING THIS UP BUT I DEFINITELY GOT FEEDBACK FROM AND ALSO HAD MET WITH THEIR BOARD CHAIR. I CAN'T THINK OF HIS NAME RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BUT BUT YEAH I MEAN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE BUT COMMUNITY FOUNDATION THE LOW COUNTRIES THAT WE'RE IN AS WELL THE GROUP GROUP TOGETHER CALLED THE LOWCOUNTRY HOUSING PARTNERS THEY HOSTED A SYMPOSIUM LAST YEAR THEY'RE PLANNING ON HOSTING ANOTHER SYMPOSIUM THIS YEAR IN NOVEMBER. AND SO SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ARE FOLKS THAT YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY GOT FEEDBACK FROM THE THE LOWCOUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE INDICATORS REPORT BUT TO YOUR POINT NO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT TOOL FOR FOLKS TO HAVE IS ACCESS AS WELL BUT BUT NO JULIE WAS JUST KIND OF COMING ON BOARD WITH THAT BUT I DEFINITELY HAVE SPOKEN TO BUT I HAVE NOT NECESSARILY I DIDN'T LIKE IT WITH MY DOCUMENTS HAND OVER TO HER AT THIS POINT BUT CERTAINLY ONCE IT'S THE COUNTY FEELS GOOD ABOUT IT AND YOU ALL FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT I THINK IT COULD BE WIDELY SHARED AND IT WOULD BE A PART OF THE PLAN. OKAY, ONE LAST THING.

IT'S MAYBE A SCRIBNER'S ERROR ON PAGE 45 IT TALKS UNDER IMPACT VISAS A CERTAIN STATUS AS THE FOLLOWING TABLE INDICATES PERCENTAGE OF DISCOUNT AVAILABLE FOR IMPACT FEES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IT'S BLANK OKAY I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

THANK I WOULD PUT WHAT PAGE WAS THIS PAGE 45 OKAY. AND EITHER ONE MAYBE IN PRINTING OR TWO MAYBE FROM HOW THEY DISAPPEAR SO I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT THANK YOU.

SURE I OTHER QUESTIONS WE ALL HAVE A QUICK QUESTION IS THERE A STRATEGY FOR DISSEMINATED THIS DOCUMENT? I ALSO FOUND IT EXTREMELY WELL WRITTEN AND ALSO IT DROVE DOWN SO MUCH. I MEAN TO THE POINT THAT YOU HAVE A DIFFERENTIAL IN THE AMOUNT THAT A BARTENDER MAKES AND THE AMOUNT THAT A WAITSTAFF PERSON MAKES OR SOMEBODY DOESN'T MAKE. IT WAS REALLY FANTASTIC THOUGHT SO THANKS A LOT FOR THAT PERSONAL LITTLE ISSUE. THANKS SO MUCH FOR BRINGING UP THE ISSUE OF SHORT TERM RENTALS WHICH YOU ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A SCOURGE IN COMMUNITY AND DOES TAKE AWAY REAL PROPERTY YOU KNOW WHATEVER. BUT MY QUESTION IS IS THERE A STRATEGY FOR DISSEMINATING IT LIKE WILL THE COUNTY AND MAYBE THIS TO ROB YOU'VE DEALT WITH ALL THE USUAL STAKEHOLDERS RIGHT THE USUAL SUSPECTS HOW CAN SOMEBODY AGAIN TO GO BACK TO YOUR WORD OF LEVERAGE USE THIS DOCUMENT IF HE OR SHE OR A FAMILY OR A COMPANY OR A YOU KNOW, PARTNERSHIP IS GOING TO COME FORWARD WITH SOME IDEAS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE THAT THIS IS THERE A STRATEGY FOR DISSEMINATION OR FOR I DON'T KNOW, JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW LIKE GETTING THE PUBLIC INVOLVED? I MEAN I'M HAPPY TO SHARE IDEAS, ROB. I THINK YOU KNOW I MEAN THEY CAN DOWNLOAD PEOPLE CAN DOWNLOAD IT. YEAH. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY A PART OF IT IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONFERENCE IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE NOW I THINK PROBABLY AN ATTACHMENT TO THAT BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR TALK AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE BUT CERTAINLY I THINK IT BECOMES A PUBLIC DOCUMENT ONCE IT IS APPROVED AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PASSED BY COUNCIL. SO I THINK HOWEVER YOU NORMALLY WOULD THINK THAT CERTAINLY AGAIN WHETHER IT'S BENEFICIAL HAVE IT SHARED WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS IN SOME FORM OR FASHION? I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT WHATEVER ROBERT THINKS THE BEST YEAH AND I WOULD JUST ECHO I MEAN BEING PART THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IT ALLOWS US THEN TO USE THAT INFORMATION YOU KNOW AND THAT THE ADVANTAGE WOULD BE FOR APPLYING FOR GRANT FUNDS YOU KNOW IT'S INFORMATION AVAILABLE AS FAR AS PROACTIVELY DISSEMINATING THE INFORMATION I SAY I JUST HAVE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THAT YET YOU I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW GETTING GETTING THIS ADOPTED SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO TO USE TAX FUNDS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT CERTAINLY I MEAN I THINK I'M INTERESTED IN A STORY THAT LIKE NOW YOU CAN USE SOME OF THESE TAX FUNDS BECAUSE MOSTLY I THINK YOU KNOW, DON'T PEOPLE LIKE ME THINK OKAY, THAT'S HEADS AND BEDS KNOW.

YEAH. SO THIS IS I THINK A KIND OF A RADICAL I THINK DESERVES SOME UNDERSTANDING AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO POST IT ON THE WEBSITE AND THAT SOMEONE WHO

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YEAH. AND I WAS VERY WELL-EDUCATED SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

AND I CAN MENTION THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AS WELL BECAUSE THIS WILL BE GOING ON TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE ON MONDAY. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE IS A DUE TO SOME BRAGGING SO AND GET THE INFORMATION INDICATIONS OPTION HERE OKAY ALL RIGHT IT'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THERE ARE FURTHER QUESTIONS.

I LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION ON THIS PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION EXCUSE ME.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SOMETHING I THINK IT'S A GREAT DOCUMENT.

I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING BEING NEEDED AND I SEE THIS DOCUMENT WHICH IS VERY INFORMATIVE AS BEING SOMETHING OF VALUE FOR US TO KNOW AND IT ALSO MAKES FUNDS AVAILABLE. BUT THE TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE AND I HOPE I CAN WORD THEM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY TODAY I HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN READING THINGS CORRECTLY.

ONE IS TO TAKE A TAX MONEY MEANS THE OTHER SOURCES THAT ARE USING THAT AID TO OTHER ENTITIES OR GROUPS THAT ARE USING THEIR AID TAX MONEY WILL NOT HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO THEM.

SO TAKING FULL FROM PETER TO PEOPLE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ADVANTAGEOUS AS MUCH AS IT THAT THIS MAY GIVE US A BILL GIVE PEOPLE THE ABILITY APPLY FOR GRANTS AND TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE JUST SPREADING A FINITE POT IN MORE DIRECTIONS WHICH COULD BE DETRIMENTAL IT'S ONE OF THOSE WHAT DO THEY SAY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. YEAH, WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF AND I GUESS THE OTHER THING IS GOING BACK AGAIN ECHOING I GUESS WHAT ED SAID IS HOW DOES THIS HELP GET MORE MONEY REALLY WHAT WHAT DOES IT HAVE ASIDE FROM DISSEMINATING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO PEOPLE ABOUT THE COST OF HOUSING, WHAT VALUE DOES THE DOCUMENT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MANDATE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF DEVELOPMENTS BEING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING EXCEPT PROVIDE INFORMATION TO PEOPLE MAKING PEOPLE FEEL HOW BAD HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE TO AFFORD HOUSING. I THINK WE SHOULD LET THEM KNOW BUT I'M VERY CONFUSED AS TO WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT WHAT'S IT GOING TO DO TO BRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT BEING DETRIMENTAL OTHER THINGS? LET ME SEE IF I CAN ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION. IT'S THE JOB OF COUNTY COUNCIL TO DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS FROM AID TAX AND THEY GO INTO A VERY CAREFUL DELIBERATION PROCESS THROUGH THEIR COMMITTEE AND IN THE COUNTY COUNCIL ACTION TO APPROVE AND A TOTAL AMOUNT AND TO DISTRIBUTE THAT NOW AMONG NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PETITIONERS AND MOST OFTEN THE PETITIONING IS GREATER THAN THE AMOUNT THAT CAN BE GIVEN. SO THERE IS THE TRADEOFFS AND THAT IS THE JOB OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO DECIDE HOW THAT THOSE FUNDS WILL BE APPROPRIATED AS TO THE THE MEANING OF THE DOCUMENT IT'S REQUIRED AT THE STATE LEVEL AND SO IT IS A MANDATED IF YOU WANT ANY ACCESS TO THESE FUNDS JUST SOMETHING YOU MAY HAVE MUST HAVE FOR ME IT PUTS IT ALL IN ONE PLACE IT PUTS IT VERY FRANKLY VERY UPFRONT.

A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A IS OUR KEY DOCUMENT. I'M HOPING THAT IT WILL GET THE CONTINUED ATTENTION AND BE MORE THAN A STATIC DOCUMENT THAT WAS REQUIRED INITIATE THE PROCESS AND THAT THE STRATEGIC STEPS THAT WE'RE TAKING NOW WILL BE REFINED IN CONSIDERATION SOME WHAT THE DATA TELLS US WHERE THAT WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE AND WHAT THE FUNDING AVAILABILITY YOU KNOW THIS IS YOU KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF DOLLARS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM WHETHER IT GETS INTO THERE, YOU KNOW LOW MILLIONS THAT'S GREAT I DON'T KNOW WHEN OR HOW MUCH HOW MUCH IS BEING HANDED IN THAT 15%. BUT IT'S A IT'S ANOTHER TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX AND WE CERTAINLY NEED EVERY TOOL WE CAN THINK OF .

YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? CHECK, PLEASE. SURE.

SO EVERYONE HAS ALREADY MENTIONED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE USHERED IN WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL THE

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SO HOW DO WE USE THIS INFORMATION? IT IS A PLANNING TOOL AND ONE STRATEGY THAT COUNTY DONE A GOOD JOB WITH IS LEVERAGING FUNDS, BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS WHETHER IT IS WITH OUR MUNICIPAL FRIENDS, WHETHER IT'S WITH THE STATE OR EVEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO HAVING THIS INFORMATION SO THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HYPOTHETICALS WE HAVE SPECIFIC FACTUAL DATA TO WORK WITH HELPS US AS WE FORMULATE THOSE LONG RANGE PLANS AND THIS IS ONE STEP AMONG MANY OTHER STEPS THAT WE'RE TAKING WITH THE HOUSING TRUST FUND WITH USING IMPACT FEES, WITH USING OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS TO COMBAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE ALONG WITH AS YOU'RE ALL WITH LAND PLANNING DENSITIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PLAN IT'S FACTUAL INFORMATION GROUNDS US WHERE WE ARE NOW SO THAT WHEN WE LOOK FORWARD TEN, 15, 20 YEARS WE REMOVE A NUMBER OF HYPOTHETICALS. WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE. WE CAN IDENTIFY SPECIFIC TARGETS REACH AND THAT HELPS US OVER THE LONG TERM TO SORT OF TACKLE THE PROBLEM OF THOSE THINGS. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU'VE JUST SAID BUT 15 YEARS FROM NOW TEN YEARS FROM NOW YOU'LL GET BACK MAKING SURE THAT THEY UPDATE THE PLAN SO THAT YOU HAVE NEW INFORMATION THAT HELPS YOU GOING FORWARD. FOR THE FOLLOWING 20 YEARS YEAH I HAVE EVERY IMPRESSION THAT WE WILL BE UPDATING THIS PLAN EVERY OTHER COMPONENT EVERY OTHER COMPONENT THAT WE HAVE I MEAN THERE'S NO MANDATE THAT WE DO IT BUT EVERY OTHER COMPONENT THAT WE UTILIZE WE UPDATE THOSE ON A CYCLICAL BASIS AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THIS WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT YEAH AND IT'S GOING TO HELP US FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED OUR GOALS MOVING FORWARD AND YEAH ABSOLUTELY I CAN'T FORESEE A YOU KNOW A PLAN LIKE THIS NOT BEING UPDATED PERIODICALLY IS OKAY ANOTHER QUESTION OKAY. WHETHER THERE WOULD BE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS DO I HAVE A MOTION REGARDING THE COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS? MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS AS AN APPENDIX TO THE 2014 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCLUDING A RECOMMENDATION THAT UPDATES BE CONSIDERED IN CONCERT WITH ALL REQUIRED PLAN UPDATES IN. THIS MOTION IS BASED ON THE ESTABLISHED REVIEW STANDARDS THAT WERE OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL AS THE TESTIMONY GIVEN THIS EVENING THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION ALL THOSE NOT IN FAVOR.

IT'S UNANIMOUS APPROVAL IN FAVOR OF A MOTION PASSES GREAT MOTION.

I THINK THAT'S IT GANG. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE L.A. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY.

[10. CHAIRMAN’S REPORT]

IT'S THREE MONTHS TO GET YOUR TRAINING REQUIREMENTS IN SO PLEASE YOU HAVE A NEED FOR TRAINING REACH OUT, REACH OUT TO ME OR ANYBODY WHO'S IN THE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT JOHN JUST BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THIS EVENING AND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS AND WE WANT TO KNOW WAS GOING TO ASK ROB NEW YORK IF YOU WERE FAMILIAR WITH THIS I'D GOTTEN AN EMAIL ABOUT THE LOWCOUNTRY REGIONAL PUBLIC WORKS TRAINING CONFERENCE COMING ON THE 26TH OF SEPTEMBER AND I GOT THAT TOO AND. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOT TRACKS THAT INCLUDE ROADWAY STORMWATER ENVIRONMENTAL. WOW.

OKAY, I'LL GIVE YOU YEAH THAT'S FAMILIAR WITH THAT. YEAH IT SOUNDED LIKE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THAT IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF US TO HEAR FROM THOSE THAT ARE ACTUALLY MAKING DECISIONS REGARDING ROADWAY STORMWATER ENVIRONMENTAL SO YEAH THESE ARE ALL YOU KNOW VERY RELATED TO PLANNING AND SO I IT KIND OF HELPS TO SEE HOW OTHER YOU KNOW, RELATED DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTY THAT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH HOW THEY THINGS AND THE SAME THING ABOUT GETTING CREDIT AND THAT'S WHAT NO I'M TO CALL THEM TOMORROW I DIDN'T SEE IT ON MY THIS IS SO AND IT'S ONLY AN HOUR RIGHT I'M

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