[I. CALL TO ORDER]
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6 P.M. WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 28TH. I LIKE TO CALL THIS THE PLANNING TO ORDER.
CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE ? CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN CHARLIE COMMISSIONER MICHAEL BROCK COMMISSIONER RICH DELACOURT YOU'RE MUCH MORE LIMITED. COMMISSIONER JIM GROVE OKAY. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT
[III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT]
THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NOT HEAR NEW ITEMS AFTER 9:30 P.M. UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT ITEMS WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD BEFORE.9:30 P.M. MAYBE CONTINUE TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OR A SPECIAL MEETING AS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION MEMBERS DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WILL HAPPEN TONIGHT BUT WE NEED TO ADDRESS
[IV. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
THAT. I DO HAVE AN ADOPTION OF MINUTES SO SECOND SECOND ALL IN FAVOR I OPPOSED I'M NOT OPPOSED. DO WE HAVE PUBLIC TONIGHT? NO NOBODY WAS SAYING IS THERE'S NO OLD BUSINESS. LET'S GO TO BUSINESS ITEM ONE[VII.1. CVS at May River Crossing (Development Plan): A request by Shelbi D'Avignon on behalf of the property owner CVS 75651 SC LLC for review of a preliminary development plan. The project consists of an 11,286 SF retail, clinic and pharmacy with drive thru, and associated infrastructure. The property is zoned Jones Estate PUD and consists of approximately 1.911 acres identified by tax map number R610 036 000 0979 0000 located within the May River Crossing Master Plan. (DP-04-24-019111) (Staff - Dan Frazier)]
ON THE AGENDA CBS IT MAY CROSSING DEVELOPMENT PLAN A REQUEST BY SHELBY DEAR THE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS CVS 75651 S.E. LLC FOR REVIEW A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROJECT CONSISTS OF AN 11,286 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL CLINIC AND PHARMACY WITH DRIVE THRU AND ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED JONES ESTATE PWD AND CONSISTS OF 1.9112 ACRES IDENTIFIED BY TAX NUMBER AS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA LOCATED WITHIN THE MAE CROSSING MASTER PLAN. MR. FRAZIER THANK YOU MR..THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE CBC RIVER CROSSING.
IT IS A REQUEST BY SHELBY OF BOONE'S DEVELOPMENT GROUP INC FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICATION PROPOSES AN 11,286 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL CLINIC AND PHARMACY WITH DRIVE THRU AND ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE THERE A 1.91 ACRE PROPERTIES ON JONES ESTATE TV LOCATED WITHIN THE BAY RIVER CROSSING MASTER PLAN AT SOUTHERN CORNER OF S.E. 170 AND EVANS WAY INTERSECTION THIS IS LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY AT AVON WEIGHING 170 AERIAL THE SAME LOCATION IS LOCATED WITHIN JOSEPH AAPT AND SUBJECT TO THE STANDARDS SET FORTH IN THE JONES ESTATE PUD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THE MAY RIVER CROSSING MASTER PLAN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT SECTIONS 5.3 AND 510 SITE IS ACCESSED BY A FULL ACCESS DRIVE FROM RIVER CROSSING AND A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT OF ACCESS FROM DRIVE FROM EVAN WAY STAFF COMMENT ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PAM WERE REVIEWED AT THE JUNE FIVE, 2024 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING. THE APPLICANT PROVIDED RE SUBMITTAL INCLUDING A RESPONSE TO COMMENT ON ALL THAT WAS IN YOUR POCKET.
THIS WAS THE MAIN RIVER CROSSING MASTER PLAN I'M LOOKING FOR MY AND IT'S MARKED CBC ON THE MASTER PLAN THIS IS THE RIGHT HERE SO THAT MAKES IT EASY THIS IS THE SITE PLAN I HAVE A THIS IS THE GRADING PLAN AND I HAVE BOTH OF THEM UP IF THERE'S A REASON FOR US TO BUILD THIS I PLAN ON THE GRADING PLAN THE ACCESS POINT ON THE EVEN WAY IS A WRITE IN WRITE OUT THIS THIS ISLAND OR THIS ISLAND PREVENT LEFT TURN OF THE PROPERTY THIS ACCESS EASEMENT ON THE MAE RIVER CROSSING WHERE THEY CAN GET UP THERE ONE WAY OR CUT ACROSS HERE INTO THE BAY RIVER CROSSING PUBLIC COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THE ROUTING FOR THE THE PHARMACY IS THE CROSS HERE THE ACTUAL PHARMACY WINDOW IS RIGHT WE HAVE TWO DUMPSTERS LOCATED HERE A PARKING DOWN IN HERE WE'VE DONE THREE SAVES HERE AS WELL AS HERE WE WORKED THE APPLICANT QUITE A BIT ON A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY.
IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO DIFFICULT SHAPE SO I WOULD CALL IT PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 310 THREE OF THE UDL IN ASSESSING AN APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THESE ARE THE CRITERIA THIS WAS IN YOUR PACKET THEIR RESPONSE TO THE CRITERIA PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION YOU CAN APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS
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SUBMITTED APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS ABLE APPLICATION OR DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TOWN STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 310 THREE A OF THE YOUDO ARE MET AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED. I HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION THERE THAT I CAN REVISIT AND I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE WE COMMISSIONER DO YOU WANT TO START ANYTHING ANYTHING OKAY. THE APPLICANT WISH TO SPEAK AT THE COMPLETION. DO YOU REALIZE THIS WAS THE FIRST PARCEL SOLD IN THIS DEVELOPMENT YOU KNOW WE'RE FINALLY BUILDING IT. GOOD EVENING.MY NAME IS BRIAN MORRIS WITH FORESIGHT GROUP. I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT AND YES THIS IS HAS BEEN LOOKED AT FOR MANY YEARS I BELIEVE THEY PURCHASED IT WAS A RETIREMENT AND IT WAS 2010 THEY LANDBANK YEAH ACTUALLY I THINK IT PURCHASED IN EITHER OH EIGHT OR NINE BECAUSE I WAS ON COUNCIL SO YEAH THEY PURCHASED IT AND THEN LANDBANK THAT MEANS THEY BASICALLY SIT ON IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS UNTIL THEY'RE READY TO BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE AND PROCEED FORWARD SO THEY LOOKED AT IT ONCE BEFORE NOW AND I THINK IT DOES THAT REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE FOR I CAN'T REMEMBER THE REASON BUT WE DID BRING IT BACK AND YOU KNOW WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE IT FORWARD AT THIS TIME AND WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THE THE PLANNING PROCESS AND HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR THE FOR THE SITE MEASURES DISCUSSION. OH, COME ON DON'T ALL TALK AT ONCE.
I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS SO NOW'S THE TIME TO ADDRESS THEM.
IF WE HAVEN'T WELL I THINK WE BRIEFLY THE IDEA OF THIS IS GOING TO BE A HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERVIEW RIGHT OVERLAY. SO YOU KNOW, ARE WE SET UP AND I'M ASKING THIS TRULY OF YOU OR DAN ARE WE SET UP FOR SUCCESS THE WAY THIS IS ORIENTED AT THIS POINT TO MEET THOSE MEET THOSE NEEDS OR IS THERE GOING TO NEED TO BE A DIFFERENT ORIENTATION? WELL, GO AHEAD, MR. FRAZIER. I KEPT TELL ABOUT THE WE HAD ASKED THE APPLICANT TO RELOCATE THEIR THEIR WINDOW FOR THEIR DRIVE THEY ORIGINALLY HAD IT WHERE IT WAS BETWEEN OAK TREE HIGHWAY AND THE BUILDING SO SO THE ROUTING ACROSS FRONT THERE WHICH IS FINE BUT THEY HAD TO TURN AND ACTUALLY HAVE THE WINDOW FACING FACING SOUTH OR NOT NOT FACING THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR SO SO WE'VE THEY'VE HAD TO DO SOME MINOR KNOWING THAT THEY HAVE A 60 FOOT SETBACK AND THEY'RE WITHIN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR WHICH MEANS YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO SEE IT AGAIN WHEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU FOR THE COPA. WELL, AND I THINK WE DO NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCUSSION OF THE REQUIREMENTS WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THEM HERE BUT WE WANT TO HEAR US AS WE'RE TALKING. WE WANT TO SET YOU UP FOR SUCCESS FOR THE NEXT STEP, SIR. HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY IN THE TOWN IS NOW CONTROLLED BY THE TOWN IS NOW CONTROLLED PRIMARILY BY PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT DOES GO THROUGH DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BEFORE IT COMES TO US WE ARE LOOKING FOR IT TO PRESENT ITSELF AS IF THE FRONT OF EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT AS IF IT'S THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING A OF ELEMENTS THAT THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO DUMPSTERS IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE I DON'T SEE DUMPSTERS SITTING TO IT OR IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE A CONCERN WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THE OLD IF NOT ADDRESSED. SO IF THERE'S A PLACE TO MOVE THEM AND CREATE PARKING SPACES THERE SAY THAT WILL BE MUCH MORE AMENABLE APPROVAL OF THE WAY IT PRESENTS ITSELF. THE HIGHWAY 170 AND THE OTHER THING WOULD BE THE DRIVE THRU LANE THE ACTUAL COVERED DRIVE THRU AREA THAT YOU SEE AT MOST CVS IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO CUT IT. IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO PRESENT ITSELF MORE AS A REFER TO YOU CAN PROBABLY TALK TO THIS BETTER THAN I COULD EVEN MORE LIKE A PUT UP LIKE A PORCH OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S SERVICE ORIENTED .
IT NEEDS TO FEEL LIKE IT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE MEANT TO WALK IN AS IF IT'S THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING THOUGH YOU WILL NOT HAVE PEOPLE ENTERING IN THAT SIDE LIKELY AND DAN IS THERE
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THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR IS THERE, THE EIGHT FOOT PLANTING BED REQUIREMENT FOR THIS PROPERTY AS WELL? THERE IS AND THEY PROVIDED AMONG OTHER THINGS THERE ARE SERVICES OUT THERE SO THEY DON'T HAVE IT. DID THEY NOT HAVE IT ON THE 170 SIDE THEY DO NOT AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE DRIVE THRU THERE BUT THEY DO PROVIDE IT ON THE SIDE. THAT FRONT HAPPENS WAY AND IN THE SOUTH SIDE THAT FRONTS MAY YEAH AND WE DID MEET WITH OAKLEY AND HAD A PRE-APPLICATION APPLICATION MEETING WE DISCUSSED THAT A LITTLE BIT UP FRONT WITH THAT. OKAY THIS OKATIE HIGHWAY BEING THE CONSIDERED FRONT FOR THEIR DEFINITION WE DO HAVE THE BUFFER IN BETWEEN YOU KNOW IN BETWEEN THE HIGHWAY AND WHERE WE'RE BUILDING IT'S 6060 FEET THERE AND IT'S HEAVILY SO YOU KNOW AS YOU'RE AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN 170 AND YOU'RE LOOKING OVER TOWARDS THE SIDE, YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE A VIEW OF ANYTHING ON YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY PULLED UP BECAUSE OF THAT 60 FOOT BUFFER. BUT WE DID TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE PLANNING STRIPS AND YOU KNOW MENTIONED THAT HEY YOU WE'RE PROVIDING THE EIGHT FOOT STRIPS ALONG YOU KNOW BOTH FRONT OFF EVAN WAY AND MAY RIVER CROSSING. WE'RE NOT PROVIDING IT ON THE NORTH SIDE BECAUSE IT'S THE DRIVE AND SERVICE AREA AND THAT WAS IN IT AN EXCEPTION IN THE CODE IT SAID THAT IT WASN'T REQUIRED ON THE DRIVE THRU AND SERVICE SIDE SO YES BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO ANTICIPATED A DRIVE THRU AND SERVICE SIDE WOULD NOT BE THE HIGHWAY FACING SIDE FACING BECAUSE EVEN WHEN WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME THROUGH FOR OTHER PROJECTS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING BUT LIKE THE ACTUAL SERVICE NEEDS TO HAVE THAT BUFFER AND CERTAINLY AT LEAST IN MY OPINION OF READING THE GUIDELINES WE WOULD WANT THAT MOST ESPECIALLY THE HIGHWAY SIDE OF THE BUILDING BUT I'M JUST ONE COMMISSIONER I MEAN YOU KNOW WITH WITH THE DIMENSIONS OF THIS OR THE SHAPE OF THIS PROPERTY AND YOU KNOW, LOOKING EAST WEST THERE'S OF A PINCH POINT HALFWAY DOWN THE PROPERTY ON THE ON THE DENTAL SIDE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A 60 FOOT BUFFER TO THE NORTH WHICH YOU KNOW, FORCES US TO KIND OF PUSH EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTH I MEAN WOULD YOU BE AND I'M JUST HERE I MEAN WE'RE PROVIDING THE EIGHT FOOT STRIP ON THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING. COULD WE FLIP IT TO WHERE WE PROVIDE IT ON THE NORTH AND SHIP THE BUILDING DOWN AND NOT PROVIDED ON THE SOUTH? WOULD THAT BE YOU KNOW, AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH AND I'M JUST THINKING IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT EXTRA STRIP FEET IS A LOT OF WITH TO PICK UP ON A SITE THAT IS ALREADY EXTREMELY TIGHT IT'S IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU AND THE REST OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROBABLY SICK OF HEARING ME SAY THIS OKAY AND I I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH AS YOU CAN ON THIS ,BUT IF YOU MAKE THE BUILDING EIGHT FEET SHORTER, YOU'VE YOUR EIGHT FOOT BUFFER. SO TO ME MAKING EIGHT FEET LONGER AND REMOVING THAT BUFFER ON ONE SIDE IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE AND AGAIN AS LYDIA SAID I'M ONE BUT A MAJORITY MAY GO THAT WAY THEY MAY NOT GO THAT WAY BUT HISTORICALLY WE HAVE REQUIRED THOSE BUFFERS AND I THINK SPECIFICALLY OF REVIEW WHERE THEY HAD TO GO BACK AND PUT BUFFERS WHEN THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PUT BUFFERS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO HIT PRETTY HARD ON THAT RESISTANCE TO DOING IT AGAIN WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SET YOU UP FOR SUCCESS.THIS PART OF TOWN NEEDS A PHARMACY YOU'RE BRINGING IN PHARMACY.
WONDERFUL. BUT WE WANT TO SET YOU UP FOR SUCCESS.
WE WANT TO FOLLOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW IN APPROVING IT SO THAT IT LOOKS WAY IT SHOULD UNDERSTAND IT'S A HEAVY BUFFER. I AM CURIOUS AS A SIDE NOTE ABOUT THE THE ELEVATION WHY ARE WE GOING UP FIVE OR SIX FEET TO THIS PROPERTY? OH, IT'S SO IT'S BASED ON THE THE MASTER SYSTEM FOR THE PUBLIX THEY ARE STUBBING OUT STORM DRAINAGE TO THE PROPERTY. WE REVIEWED THEIR MASTER STORM DRAINAGE REPORT AND AND ESSENTIALLY THE 100 YEAR HYDRAULIC GRADE THAT BACKS UP FROM THAT DETENTION POND TO THE STRUCTURES THAT TIE IN TO THAT SITE. THEY'RE ACTUALLY HIGHER IN THAT AREA BY 3 TO 4 FEET THAN THE EXISTING GRADES ON SITE. SO THAT THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING TO BRING THE ELEVATION AS TO BASICALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE FINISHED FLOOR IS GOING TO BE ABOVE THE 100 YEAR ELEVATION THAT'S STACKING UP IN THAT MASTER EXTENSION POND AND ALSO TO PICK UP THE PARKING LOT TO MAKE SURE THE INLETS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET INUNDATED WITH THAT 100 YEAR. SO THAT'S THAT'S THERE'S ACROSS
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170 ISN'T IT. THAT'S CORRECT. I REMEMBER THAT THEY HAD TO PUT THE RETENTION POND ACROSS AND IS EXCELLENT IT'S ON THE OTHER THOUGHTS COMMENTS SOMEBODY WANT TO MOTION ONLY COMMENT I WOULD HAVE THAT I SAW THE PRELIMINARY LANDSCAPE PLAN AND I WOULD JUST PAY ATTENTION TO THE THE BUFFERS ALONG BUT IT'S ONLY 170 BUT ALONG THE MAIN THE MAIN TWO DRIVES THERE COMING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE SPACING THAT YOU HAVE FOR FOR THE TREES THERE'S SOME LITTLE GEMS IN THERE THAT THAT ARE RIGHT ON THE BACK OF THE CURB I DON'T KNOW THAT'S A GREAT SPECIES TO PUT RIGHT THERE. THE OTHER THAT I NOTICED IS JUST A STRAIGHT LINE OF SHRUBS RIGHT BEHIND PARK IN THAT'S KIND OF A PET PEEVE OF MINE IT'S NOT ESTHETIC BUT COMING DOWN THAT WAY SO THERE'S A LOT OF GRASS IN BETWEEN THERE AND VERY VERY LITTLE SHRUB LAYERS. YEAH AND I THINK IF IF WE'RE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE ON ON BUFFERING SOME AREAS I THINK FOCUSING ON THAT STREET VIEW MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT TO HELP. WELL ANOTHER AREA AT SIDES OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE BACKGROUND ON WHY THEY'RE SPACED OR LOCATED THERE. WE DO HAVE A TEN FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT THAT RUNS ALONG THAT ENTIRE FRONTAGE AND YOU KNOW PER THE EASEMENT LANGUAGE PLANTINGS TREES ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THAT EASEMENT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON THAT THEY'RE PLACED RIGHT BEHIND THE CURB LIKE THAT. WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, 3 TO 4 FEET BETWEEN THE BACK OF CURB AND THE BEGINNING OF THAT EASEMENT TO DO OUR PLANTINGS PLANNING AS LONG AS THEY GROW ABOVE A CERTAIN HEIGHT IN THAT TIME THEY JUST CAN'T THEY ARE YOUR STANDARDS FOR THE IT'S A I BELIEVE IT'S POWER LIKE UNDERGROUND POWER AND OKAY YEAH I THINK WOULD REFLECT THAT AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WE'RE NOT THAT LANDSCAPE PLANNING IS IN THE PURVIEW OF THIS DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION RIGHT NOW BUT YOU WILL BE SEEING IT WHEN IT COMES OUT. WE'RE LOOK THE WE'VE HAD TO ADD STEPS WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME BACK FOR HIGHWAY CORRIDOR AND IT GETS TABLED OR IT GOES AWAY AND WE'VE EVEN ADDED THE STEP WHERE YOU GO TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW NEXT SO WE CAN GET MORE IN DEPTH RIGHT WE'RE I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TELL YOU HERE IS THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THAT MIGHT END UP BEING A LONGER DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES AS TO WHEN YOU BRING UP THEIR COUNCIL .NO MAKE NOTE OF ALL OF IT. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CVS AT ME RIVER CROSSING PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED WE HAVE A SECOND CIRCUIT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR I OPPOSED MOTION CARRY A COUPLE OF THINGS BECAUSE LET ME OKAY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BUCK WALTER
[VII.2. Buckwalter Parkway Healthcare (Development Plan): A request by Joel C. Taylor of Tenet Healthcare, on behalf of Parcel C5 LLC, for approval of a Preliminary Development Plan. The project consists of a free-standing emergency department and medical offices in a single building to include approximately 50,250 SF. Proposed drives, parking, landscaping, utilities and supporting infrastructure. The property is zoned Buckwalter PUD and consists of approximately 10.9 acres identified by tax map numbers R610 022 000 1073 0000, R610 022 000 1081 0000, R610 022 000 1082 0000, R610 022 000 1084 0000 and located on the southeast corner of Buckwalter Parkway and Parkside Drive within the Buckwalter Commons. (DP-06-24-019190) (Staff - Dan Frazier)]
PARKWAY HEALTH CARE DEVELOPMENT PLAN A REQUEST BY JOSIE TAYLOR OF TENANT HEALTH CARE ON BEHALF OF CASTLES C5 LLC FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF A FREESTANDING DEPARTMENT AND MEDICAL OFFICES AND A SINGLE BUILDING TO INCLUDE 50,250 SQUARE FEET PROPOSED PARKING, LANDSCAPING, UTILITIES AND SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED BUCKWALTER PD AND CONSISTS OF A APPROXIMATELY 10.9 ACRES IDENTIFIED BY THE TAX NUMBERS IN THE AGENDA AND LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BUCKWALTER PARKWAY AND PARKSIDE DRIVE.
THE BUCKWALTER COMMENTS. MR. FRAZIER THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR BUCKWALTER PARKWAY HEALTH CARE.
IT'S A REQUEST BY JOEL TAYLOR. CAN IT HELP FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROPOSES 50,250 SQUARE FOOT FREESTANDING EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT AND MEDICAL WITHIN A SINGLE BUILDING AND ASSOCIATED PARKING AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THE 10.9 ACRE PROPERTIES ON BUSY QUARTER LOCATED WITHIN THE PARK CALLED THE COMMONS PHASE ONE MASTER PLAN.
AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BUCKWALTER PARKWAY AT PARKSIDE DRIVE.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM WASHINGTON SQUARE.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY OF AERIAL VIEW THAT PROPOSES ACCESS TO THE SITE FROM PARKSIDE DRIVE
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AND BUCKWALTER PARKWAY. THE SOUTHERN MOST ACCESS WILL BE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY THE BUCKWALTER PARKWAY ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN CALLS FOR A FUTURE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE PARK PARKSIDE DRIVE INTERSECTION AND THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH THE SUBMITTAL INCLUDES A TRAFFIC WARRANT ANALYSIS FOR THIS INTERSECTION.I KNOW THEY HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH THEM HERE TODAY. THIS THE PROPOSED ACCESS POINTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE BUCKWALTER PARKWAY ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THE STAFF COMMENTS ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WERE REVIEWED AT THE JULY 24, 2024 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW. THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A RESPONSE TO COMMENTS AND REVISED SITE PLANS ON JULY 31, 2024. THOSE WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET. HERE IS THE SITE. IT'S GOT A CUT SHEET.
THE NEXT THE NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW WHAT HAPPENS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN.
THIS IS PARK. THIS IS A PARKSIDE DRIVE ENTRY OF THAT.
SO THEY'LL BE ACCESSING DIRECTLY ON THE PARK SIDE DRIVE THE LOCATION OF THE WHERE THEY A FUTURE TRAFFIC LIGHT IN THE PARK WATER ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN IS AT THIS LOCATION.
THIS THIS WOULD BE THE LOCATION OF THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY ROOM THIS WOULD BE THE MEDICAL OFFICE SO THAT CAN WRAP IT AROUND THE WHOLE THING IF THEY GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THIS IS WHERE THEY COME OUT AND THIS IS LOWCOUNTRY FRESH RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THAT'S THAT ACCESS POINT THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN RIGHT NOW TO FULL ACCESS YOU CAN MAKE A LEFT OR RIGHT AS YOU'RE COMING OUT OF THIS FROM THE WASHINGTON SQUARE SIDE.
THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN SHOWS IN THE FUTURE THIS TURNING INTO RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ON BOTH SIDES THEY'RE PROVIDING A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT RIGHT NOW WITH THIS SUBMITTAL.
THAT'S IN CASE WE NEED TO TAKE A CLOSER AT THE APPLICATION AT THE SUBMITTAL THESE ARE A COUPLE OF SLIDES FROM FROM THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN. THIS IS PARKSIDE DRIVE SHOWING THAT THERE'S A SIGNAL PROJECTED TO GO THERE IN FUTURE. I'LL LET THEM SPEAK ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THE TRAFFIC WARDEN ANALYSIS. FURTHER DOWN IS THE MAXIMUM POINT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THIS IS THIS IS THEIR SOUTHERNMOST ACCESS POINT IS RIGHT HERE WHERE THEY'RE IN A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ACROSS THE STREET WILL BE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT LIKE LIKE I JUST MENTIONED AND THAT'S THAT'S A FUTURE CONDITION WITHIN THE ACCESS PLAN. PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 310 THREE OF THE UDL AND IF THAT'S IN THE APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THESE ARE THE SAME CRITERIA I SHOWED YOU AT THE PREVIOUS PROJECT PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION IS APPROVE THE APPLICATION AND SUBMITTED APPROVED THE WITH CONDITIONS TABLE THE APPLICATION OR DENY THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT STEP COUNT STAFF FINDS OUT THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION THREE 1038 RADIO ARE MET AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED HAVE THE SUGGESTED MOTION THERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OR THE APPLICANT THEY HAVE THEIR WHOLE TEAM HERE I BELIEVE SO FOR TO GO ON ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? JUST A CLARIFICATION, MR. FRAZIER, TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION UNDERSTANDS THIS IS NOT ON HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT. THIS IS THE LAST TIME PLANNING COMMISSION WILL SEE THIS. IT WILL GO TO DEVELOPMENT REVIEW FOR FILE CORRECT.
THAT'S CORRECT. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? YES. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.
CHILDREN ARE HERE FOR YOU FOR NOVANT HEALTH HILTON HEAD MARKET.
I WILL POINT OUT AS REFERENCED EARLIER WE FILED THE APPLICATION WHEN OUR HOSPITALS WERE PART OF TENET HEALTHCARE IN FEBRUARY NOVANT HEALTH CAME AND QUICKLY UP THIS PROJECT IS EXCITED TO BE HERE AND PROCEED THIS PROJECT SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR US THIS EVENING AND TO GIVE ANY FEEDBACK YOU HAVE. HAPPY TO DO IT.
THIS IS REALLY A DIRECT RESPONSE TO WHAT WE BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY NEED IS IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE AND. AVON HEALTH BASED IN NORTH CAROLINA HAS A HAS A REAL FOCUS ON THE COMMUNITY IN RESPONDING TO COMMUNITY NEEDS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF THANK YOU MR. FRAZIER FOR THIS COMMENTING THE FREESTANDING EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT IS AN WE HAVE ONE VERY SIMILAR ON 170 IT'S IN JASPER COUNTY IT'S GOT TIED WATCH FREESTANDING IT OPERATES 24 SEVEN BOARD CERTIFIED PHYSICIANS IN HOUSE THE NUANCE TO THIS FOOTPRINT IS IT INCLUDES 40,000 SQUARE FEET OF MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING ABOUT MEDICAL OFFICE SPACE THAT
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WILL HOUSE PRIMARY CARE SELECT SPECIALTY PROBABLY NEUROLOGY AS ONE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED WILL HOUSE THERE AS WELL IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY IT PROVIDES US AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS MR. FRASER SAID WE BROUGHT THAT BROUGHT THE WHOLE SO THEY CAN ANSWER THE SPECIFICS BUT I'M HAPPY TO TALK MORE YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS THIS PROJECT THIS IS THE LOCATION THAT WAS A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IS BUT THEY WERE A MARKETPLACE OR SOMETHING IT WAS THERE IS AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL THEY JUST ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION OF THAT APPROVAL.OH YEAH REGRETTABLY EXTENSION. BUT IF THIS THING GETS APPROVED THAT SUPERSEDES THE PREVIOUS OVERFLIGHT APPROVAL. I KNOW WE HAD CHALLENGES WITH THAT PLANS ANYBODY WISH TO DRIVE IN? I'LL LET YOU GO FIRST. I GET TO GO LAST TODAY.
OKAY. WEATHER SHY TODAY BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR DAN.
DAN, MAYBE YOU COULD HELP ME IF YOU LOOK ROUTE 278 ALL THE WAY TO BLUFFTON PARKWAY WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS LIGHT WE WILL HAVE SIX INTERSECTION LIGHTS OVER 8500 FEET WHICH IS ONLY 1400 FEET AVERAGE PER LIGHT GOVERNMENT D.O.T. TYPICALLY RECOMMENDS 2600.
WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR BACK ROAD PLANS THAT WOULD HELP US MAYBE ELIMINATE OF THESE LIGHTS WE IN THIS PROGRAM THAT'S PROBABLY NOT YOUR ISSUE IT'S MORE OUR ISSUE WE KNOW BUT IT'S A GOOD SO THE BACK PACKAGE ROADS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE ARE BACK HERE WE'VE KIND OF GOT ONE AND ONE IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW THIS IS WHAT'S REMOVED FROM THE APPLICATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. BUT THE THE THE BACK ROAD THAT WOULD COME OUT JUST SOUTH OF THIS IS YOU GUYS HAD A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING WOULD COME IN AT THIS LOCATION.
WE REQUIRED THAT THEY STUB TO THE NORTH HOPEFULLY THAT'S GOING TO TIE INTO A PROJECT THAT'S COMING IN RIGHT HERE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THIS LOCATION WHICH IS THE KROGER GAS STATION LOCATION . I BELIEVE ALL THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE YOU KNOW, ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S SPACE CLOSER THAN THE REAL CLOSE. YEP.
I KNOW THAT THIS THIS BILL ENGINEERING SHE'S SHE IS SHE HAD DONE THE THE ORIGINAL PART CALLED THE PARKWAY ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN SHE'S LOOKING IT AGAIN ON THE STORE SIDE AS WELL AS THE SOUTH SIDE FOR THE COUNTY. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE AN EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY IT ALL THE WAY DOWN THE MAIN RIVER ROAD AS KIND OF A PHASE TWO OF THIS. BUT I DON'T KNOW OR DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY CHANGES HAPPENING ON THIS NORTHERN PART BUT NORTHERN I MEAN EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PARKWAY BETWEEN THE PARK PARKLAND TO 78 BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE SOME SIGNALS IN THERE.
YOU'RE RIGHT. WELL, IT WOULD JUST SEEM LIKE IF WE HAD SOME OF THESE ROADS YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FEED THEM INTO A LIGHT INSTEAD OF ADDING ANOTHER LIGHT.
BUT RIGHT LIKE I SAID, IT'S IT'S AVERAGELY HUNDRED FEET BETWEEN LIGHTS.
YEP. WHICH WHICH IS PRETTY TIGHT. VERY TIGHT.
YOU KNOW WE WE CAN HAVE AN ON FLYING CONVERSATION IF YOU WANT BUT I WAS PART OF THAT TRAFFIC ACCESS PLAN BACK IN NO. 708 WITH THE COUNTY THE TOWN TOGETHER WHERE WE SOURCED MOST OF THESE LIGHTS A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE SHIFTED AND THAT'S CREATED A LITTLE BIT OF THE PINCH OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING. BUT OKAY, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE AGAINST THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS CALLING A LIGHT WARNING PLEASE GET OFF THAT BACK RIGHT RIGHT.
SO DYLAN TURNER WITH KENLEY HORN SAID THE TIE FOR THIS IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED OVER TO THE TOWN AND VIEW FOR COUNTY AND SO I TALKED TO THE ENGINEER REVIEWING THIS STUDY TODAY THERE'S PROVIDERS ANY COMMENTS ANY TIME NOW WE DID CALL FOR A STUDY OR SORRY EXCUSE ME A SIGNAL HERE SO RECOMMENDING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THIS LOCATION .
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE OVERLAID THE WASHINGTON SQUARE ACROSS THE STREET THEREFORE BUILD OUR FULL BUILD TOGETHER AND THEN WAS THERE TODAY PLUS SOME GROWTH AND WE WERE SHOWN TO NEED THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BY THE TIME WE'RE BUILT OUT AND SO THE WAY BEAUFORT COUNTY PREFERS IT BUT I THINK OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM WANTS TO WORK WITH OURSELVES BEFORE COUNTY IN WASHINGTON SQUARE AS A TRY TO GET THE SIGNAL IN POTENTIALLY BEFORE WE'RE BECAUSE WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO IS WAIT FOR THE SITE TO OPEN THEN COUNT THEN INSTALL THE SIGNAL BUT WE'RE SHOWING
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WITH OUR OUR TO THERE'S THE NEED THERE WHY CAN'T WE DO THIS BEFORE BECAUSE IF WE'VE GOT TO DO MASS STORMS THERE'S A LONG LAG TIME ON ORDERING THEM AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO TO GET IT INSTALLED BEFORE IT'S ALREADY PLANNED FOR AND THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT WE'RE FOLLOWING EXACTLY WHAT THE ACCESS MANAGER PLAN HAS.I KNOW PARK SIDE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF WE WERE TO GET IT IN EARLIER AS WELL AND SO OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS WORKING HARD TO GET THAT GOING. WHAT'S WHAT'S JARED'S RESPONSE BEEN SO JARED'S COMPLETELY FINE WITH THE SIGNAL AND I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'VE LINED UP EYES ON THE DESIGN SO THE EXTENSION TO MAKE ARE SOUTHERN ACCESS RIGHT IN RIGHT NOW AND.
SO THERE WAS A ONE POINT THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT EVEN GOING AHEAD AND ORDERING THE MASS STORM. SO I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE PRETTY PROACTIVE AND AND GETTING THE SIGNAL STUFF BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GOT TO THAT POINT BECAUSE THERE WAS ALSO A SIDEBAR AS MAY BE PUTTING UP WOOD POLE WHICH IS A TEMPORARY SIGNAL AND TOLD US STORMS COME IN. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE WEEKS.
THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE DURING COVID THERE'S LAG GOT ASTRONOMICAL AND THEY'RE BETTER NOW BUT WE'LL DO TWO YEARS NOT FIVE, RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH THAT THAT I ORIGINALLY THE TRAFFIC ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN CALLED FOR A LIGHT LOG YEAH. AT LUDLOW AND AND THE WAY I CALL IT THE PARKWAY WAS BUILT THERE IT KIND OF COMES UP IN A ROUND SO I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT IT'S MOVED TO PARKSIDE FROM THERE SO THAT THAT'S A GOOD THING. WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING BEHIND ME? ARE WE TALKING TWO THREE STORIES? ARE WE TALKING TO THE WINDOWS ITSELF WILL BE TWO STORIES THE FREESTANDING PORTION OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE ONE ONES. AND DAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THIS ONE BUT IS THERE ANY KIND OF A LEGAL ISSUE THAT THE APPLICANT IS A TENANT AND NOW IT'S NO EVENT DO THEY HAVE TO REAPPLY THAT'S HEADED STRAIGHT BUT WE'RE SAYING THIS FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE I'D HATE TO SEE THEM GET APPROVAL ON THEM. THEY CAN'T IT WE'LL MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS. YEAH I THINK I'VE HAD A PROBLEM TRACKING TO WHO I WASN'T SURE WHETHER ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY OFFICIALLY NOW NO ON SO ON A GO FORWARD BASIS ASSUMING IT MEETS WITH YOUR PLANS WE'LL CHANGE IT IN A VANILLA GOOD YEAH IT'S A COMBINATION OF LET'S A LOT OF ANY OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS I HAVE ONE MORE YOU'RE STANDING RIGHT THERE SO I'M GOING TO DO THIS BEFORE IN 2004 YOUR PREDECESSOR TENANT BUILT COASTAL CAROLINA HOSPITAL ADDED HOWEVER MANY BEDS THAT IS YOU HOW MANY? 4141.
WE HAD LESS THAN 10,000 PEOPLE IN THE TOWN. I KNOW I WAS HERE I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 91 IT'S 2024. WE HAVE OVER 40,000 PEOPLE IN THE TOWN.
WE NEED MEDICAL WE ALL KNOW THIS. I AM GOING TO ASK THIS IS NOT PART OF THIS STOP OPPOSING EFFORT AND THE 30 BED HOSPITAL BUILD A 100 BED HOSPITAL ACROSS THE STREET BUILD A 200 BED HOSPITAL DOWN THE ROAD BUT WE NEED A LOT OF BEDS AND WE NEED THEM NOW AND I'LL I'LL GET MY SOAPBOX THE CITY I HAD THE CHANCE HAD TO SAY IT YOU KNOW WE NEED TO STOP OPPOSING WE TO STOP FIGHTING WE NEED TO GET THIS WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.
WE'VE GOT TOO MANY PEOPLE WHEN YOU FACTOR IN OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN WITH SUN CITY WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THE LAST TWO DAYS I SPENT IN EMERGENCY ROOM IN SAVANNAH WITH MY WIFE BECAUSE I COULDN'T GET IN HERE SO THIS HIT HOME OKAY WE NEED THEM AND WE NEED THEM NOW. WE NEED THEM FROM YOU AND WE NEED THEM FROM OTHERS SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER PLAYING NICE. OKAY.
WE NOTED BECAUSE WITH THAT SAID DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? MR. BEN, CAN YOU GET US THE RIGHT SIDE IF I I PROMISE I'LL JUST GET MYSELF I'LL MAKE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE THE BULK CALLS FOR PARKWAY HEALTH CARE A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS SUBMITTED AND SECONDED ALL THOSE IN FAVOR BY ALL THOSE THE MOTION CARRIES YOU AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU OAK THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND THE WHOLE ROOM JUST DON'T YOU KNOW HEY
[VII.3. Tommy's Express Carwash (Development Plan): A request by David Karlyk, PE of Carolina Engineering, on behalf of One Bluff Park for approval of a Preliminary Development Plan. The project consists of constructing a 4,265 sq. ft. automated car wash with associated parking and infrastructure. The property is zoned Shultz PUD and consists of approximately 1.49 acres identified by tax map number R610 031 000 1691 0000 and located at the northeast corner of Bluffton Parkway and Simmonsville Road within the Bluffton Park Master Plan. (DP-06-24- 019163) (Staff - Dan Frazier)]
THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA TOMMY IS EXPRESS CARWASH DEVELOPMENT A REQUEST BY DAVID BARTLETT[00:35:09]
CAR. YES YEAH THAT'S FUNNY YOU HAVE CAR ANYWAY COPY OF CAROLINA ENGINEERING ON BEHALF OF ONE GLOVE PARK FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF CONSTRUCTING A 4265 SQUARE FOOT AUTOMATED CAR WASH CAR WASH WITH ASSOCIATED AND INFRASTRUCTURE THE PROPERTY IS ZONED SCHULTZ PUDI AND CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 1.49 ACRES IDENTIFIED BY THE TEXT MAP NUMBER IN THE AGENDA AND LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND SIMMONS MILL ROAD WITHIN THE BLUFFTON MASTER PLAN. MR. FRAZIER THANK MR. CHAIRMAN .
THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR COMMENTS EXPRESSED.
I WANT TO THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A 4265 SQUARE FOOT AUTOMATED CARWASH WITH THE ASSOCIATED AND INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE 1.49 ACRE PROPERTIES ON SCHULTZ PD AND IT'S LOCATED THE BLUFFTON PARK MASTER PLAN AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY THE SIMMONS VILLE ROAD. THEY'LL HAVE TO GET APPROVAL LETTER FROM BLUFFTON PARK RANGERS CLIPPER WHO WHO RUNS THE AARP FOR BLUFFTON PARK THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY THIS IS IT ON AN AERIAL THE APPLICATION IS FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A WRITE IN WRITE OUT ACCESS THE SITE FROM SIMMONS BEAL ROAD AND A SHARED ACCESS WITH THE ADJACENT LOT FROM BLUFFTON PARKWAY. THE WRITE IN WRITE OUT IS AFTER AFTER COORDINATING WITH D.O.T. THEY'VE PROVIDED SOME CORRESPONDENCE THAT TYPE OF DEAL TDOT IS THE ONE THAT WANTS TO WRITE IN WRITE OUT AND IT MAKES SENSE IN THAT LOCATION THEY'VE MADE SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENT TO IT MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO MEET THE THE DETAIL THAT YOU'LL LIKE TO SEE FOR THE WRITE IN WRITE OUT THE OTHER ACCESS IS ACTUALLY YOU WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL TO TO GET TO THE CAR WASH IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT THEY'VE ALREADY RECORDED THE EASEMENT SO THERE THERE'S ALREADY A EASEMENT SHOWING SHOWING ACCESS TO THE SITE. SIMMONS RAILROAD ROAD ACCESS HAS BEEN REVIEWED APPROVED BY DOC I JUST SAID THAT THAT COMMENTS ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WERE REVIEWED AT THE JULY 17, 2024 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING. THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A RESPONSE COMMENT AND REVISE SITE PLANS ON JULY 22ND YOU HAD THOSE IN YOUR PACKET. THIS IS THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY MASTER PLAN JUST SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE BLUFFTON PARK MASTER PLAN.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SO I'M TALKING ABOUT ACCESS. THIS IS ACCESS OFF OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY ALL OF THIS PARKING IS IN WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS THAT THEY FAVOR RECORDED AN ACCESS EASEMENT WHERE IF YOU'RE OUT HERE ON BLUFFTON PARKWAY YOU CAN ENTER INTO THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN COME ACROSS THE FRONT OF THIS PARKING AND YOU CAN GET TO THE CAR WASH FROM THIS LOCATION. YOU CAN ALSO DO A DO ENTER ENTER IN AT THIS RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT OF THE SANDWICH MILL ROAD THE QUEUING IS AS SUCH THEY PROVIDED A LETTER THAT EVEN AT PEAK HOUR THERE THEY DON'T ANTICIPATE THE NUMBERS OF EVER BACKING OUT IN THE SIMMONS BILL ROAD RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT OVER HERE IS THE IS THE VACUUM'S ON THIS SIDE I THINK THESE ARE DESIGNATED FOR FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING UP ACROSS THE TOP HERE AND THAT IS THE DUMPSTER LOCATION. SO THE OLD HOUSE UPTOWN I'M SORRY UP TOP I SEE A LITTLE BUILDING IS THAT THE OLD PRAISE HOUSE OR THAT THAT IS THAT'S ACTUALLY IT'S A POWER SUBSTATION. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT THEN IT MUST BE NO. OKAY. THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN W NOT MUCH IF WE NEED TO REVISIT THE SITE PLANNING SO CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 310 THREE A OF THE YOUDO IN ASSESSING AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THESE ARE THE SAME CRITERIA I'VE SHOWED YOU TWICE TONIGHT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION IS THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED OR APPROVED THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS TABLE THE APPLICATION OR DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT TOWN STAFF FINDS THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 310 THREE OF THE UDR ARE MET AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED WOULD SUGGEST THAT MOTION I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS THE APPLICANT IS HERE IS THIS CODE OR IS THIS FINAL? IS THE FINAL WORD? WELL YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT THE PLANNING EXACTLY RIGHT.
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RIGHT IT IS PUT YOUR YOUR MAKE RECOMMENDATION ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY A STORMWATER PERMIT APPLICATION SUBMITTAL ONCE THEY GET APPROVED THROUGH THEIR STORMWATER THEY WOULD COME BACK ONLY TO DRC FOR A FINAL DEVELOPMENT BUT ONCE THE CERTAIN OKAY YOU NEVER THIS QUIET FOR AMANDA THERE'S A LOT GOING ON THERE WITH THE ACCESS AND THROUGH THE PARKING I LIKE I JUST SEE IT BEING A CLUSTER OF CARS IN SOME AREAS JUST TRYING TO GET AND OUT ALL THE SAME TIME DEPENDING ON HOW BUSY IT IS BUT LET'S DO THIS THE APPLICANT WANT TO PROCESS THE PROJECT SO I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU DISCUSSED THE STACKING LIKE HOW MUCH AND WHERE AND HOW THAT ACCESS EASEMENT WORKS AND ALL RIGHT. DAVID CARLEY FROM THE CAROLINA ENGINEERING YOU KNOW MY CLIENT TOM EXPRESS CAR WASH, THEY'VE GOT 210 CAR WASHES ACROSS THE US FROM EAST COAST TO THE WEST COAST ONLY MISSING A FEW STATES . THEY AND THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE PRODUCT THEY KNOW WHAT WORKS. THEY HAD SEVERAL PROTOTYPES THAT WE FOLLOWED. WE DID OUR SITE PLAN AND THIS BEING ONE OF THEM WE TOOK THE HARD YOUR COMMENTS AT OUR LAST REVIEW ABOUT THE STACKING THE ACCESS ON THE SIMMONS VEHICLE ROAD WHAT WE'VE IS WE'VE WIDEN THE ACCESS ON THE SIMMONS VEHICLE ROAD WE ADDED A RAISED CONCRETE MEDIAN THERE'S TWO OF THEM THE ONE RIGHT ALONG THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT THERE THE LONG OVAL SHAPE ONE IS 28 FOOT WIDE. THAT IS RAISED TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM MAKING A WRONG TURN INTO THE SIDE. ALL WE'VE INCREASED THE TURN AND RADIUS IS THERE'S ALSO LITTLE TRIANGLE SHAPE RAISED CONCRETE MEDIAN THE STACKING DISTANCE FOR THIS PROJECT IS PROVIDE ID ON THE SIMMONS VEHICLE ROAD SIDE OF THE BUILDING YOU CAN SEE FOUR TANKS UNDERNEATH THE PAVEMENT RIGHT THERE THAT'S A DOUBLE LANE THAT ENABLES MY CLIENT TO STACK ABOUT 1718 CARS IN THERE BEFORE COMING CLOSE TO BACKING OUT ON TO SIMMONS BILL ROAD THEY'VE DONE THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS THEY'VE LOOKED AT THIS AREA AND THEY ANTICIPATE 25 TO 30 CARS DURING LUNCH TIME LUNCH TIME BEING BUSY BUSIEST TIME OF DAY WITH THE TIME IT TAKES TO RUN A CAR THROUGH THE CYCLE ABOUT 2 MINUTES THEY'RE BEING ABLE TO STACK FOUR CARS AT A TIME THROUGH THE CAR WASH. THEY'VE RAN THE NUMBERS IN AND STACKING SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE ON THIS SIDE. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL HAVE IF YOU HAVE MORE I I DID WANT TO SEE TO UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND LIKE THE OTHER COMMISSIONER I YOU KNOW I GO TO A DIFFERENT CAR WASH BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THOSE AREAS WITH THE VACUUMS AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET IN . THAT'S SURE TO BE A BIT OF A LOGJAM BUT I GUESS YOU GUYS HAVE LOOKED AT IT CLOSE ENOUGH. ISN'T THERE ALSO A CAR WASH RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD A BIT, YEAH. ACROSS THE STREET. RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.SO IN YOUR STUDIES WOULD SAY NO PROBLEM, RIGHT? NO PROBLEM.
NO PROBLEM. IT YOU CAN DO IT FOR DOLLARS CAR WASH.
I'M TODD BURNS. I'M THE ONE OF THE OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS WE OPERATE 17 CAR WASHES IN DIFFERENT STATES BUT HAVE BEEN IN THE CAR WASH BUSINESS FOR EVERYTHING BUT 30 SOMETHING YEARS. SO THIS PARTICULAR MODEL TOMMY'S WAS YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE IT AROUND BLUFFTON AND OUR PROCESSING IS PROBABLY I DON'T KNOW THERE'S A ZIPS HERE THERE'S A TRYING TO THINK OF THE OTHER GUYS WE CUT AWAY WE'RE PROBABLY A MINIMUM OF 2 TO 3 TIMES FASTER JUST BECAUSE WHEN YOU COME HERE THERE'S A BELT THAT ACTUALLY CARRIES THE CARS THROUGH A NOT A CONVEYOR SYSTEM SO THERE'S NOT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL THAT LINING UP AND WE DON'T DO ANY SCRUBBING OUT FRONT WITH ANY NONE OF THAT YOU PULL IN, YOU HIT THE BELT, YOU'RE YOU'RE DONE. SO THERE WILL NEVER BE A IF WE
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BACK UP ON THE AS WELL I MAY BUY YOU YOU GUYS A STEAK DINNER BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE MOST WE'VE IT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE AND NUMBER THAT WE CAME UP WITH FOR THIS SITE WE'LL NEVER EVEN GET CLOSE IS HERE AT TOMMY'S CAR WASH IN THE GENERAL VICINITY THERE WERE THE CLOSEST FAMILIES WE HAVE WE HAVE ONE IN COLOMBIA THAT ONE KILLED AND WE ARE ONE OF THE KANNAPOLIS, NORTH CAROLINA, CHARLESTON. THAT'S A DIFFERENT BALLGAME IF YOU LOOK I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS AT DRC BUT JUST A REMINDER BECAUSE WE DEALT WITH THIS WITH ANOTHER CAR WASH, NO NEON ON THE INSIDE VISIBLE FROM THE OUTSIDE RIGHT. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS. DAN, YOU WANT TO PULL UP THAT ENTERTAIN EMOTION THANK YOU FOR THEM ALREADY AS FAR AS LIGHTING INTERNALLY EVERYONE'S MOVED TO APPROVE TOMMY'S EXPRESS CARWASH PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND ALL APPROVE OF ANY OPPOSED NO GARY'S THANK YOU FOLKS IF YOU THINK YOU GOOD LUCK WITH ROGER'S CLIFFORD IS ONLY OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION? SAM'S NOT TALKING TO US I THINK FOR DISCUSSION. RIGHT? YEAH, NO. OKAY. DO HAVE MOTION MAKE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. DO HAVE A SECOND SECOND. ALL IN