Jul 18, 2024 Airports Board

[I. CALL TO ORDER ]

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GO WE'RE GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE JULY 18TH MEANING THE COUNTY AIRPORT BOARD.

FIRST LET'S DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG AND UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION I'M GOING TO GO OUT WITH LIBERTY FOR ALL ALL RIGHT. FOR PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THAT.

[IV. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – JUNE 20, 2024]

SO WE'LL GO TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 20TH MEETING.

CAN I GET A MOTION ON THAT? SO WE'VE MOVED. ALL RIGHT, SECOND MR. STARNES HERE ALL IN FAVOR SAY I AM OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL GO TO THE FIRST SET FOR FIRST STOP FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PER PER THE RULES OF THIS BOARD LIMIT COMMENTS TO 3 MINUTES DO I HAVE ANY TAKERS? NO.

[VII. DIRECTOR’S REPORT]

THANK YOU. JOHN'S OBVIOUSLY NOT HERE SO I AM THE QUASI DEPUTY DIRECTOR COVERING FOR THE DIRECTOR TODAY BUT WELCOME I HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A A GOOD 4TH OF JULY WEEKEND AND TRY TO STAY OUT OF THE HEAT. I KNOW THAT WAS EARLY IN THE MONTH BUT IT WAS PRETTY PRETTY HOT IT'S BEEN PRETTY HOT AT AIRPORTS.

I'D LIKE TO LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS UP FOR AIR THERE THE DIRECTORS REPORT OKAY THE AIRPORT AND ME TALKING ABOUT THE DIRECTORS REPORT TODAY SHOULD BE PRETTY QUICK BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA BUT I DO WANT TO SAY TO START THE AIRPORT STAFF AIRPORT LEADERSHIP WE'RE UNDER QUITE A BIT OF PRESSURE BUT IT'S A GOOD PRESSURE BECAUSE WE HAVE JUST MULTIPLE THINGS GOING ON IN BOTH AIRPORTS.

SHARE SHARE. YES. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO HELP ME HOW TO DO THAT THAT OPERATOR AIR KEEP IT AND THEN WAYS ARE GOOD GOOD WAYS TO POSSIBLY JUST HIT THIS SLIDE OKAY NOW ONLINE CAN YOU GUYS SEE THAT OKAY NO I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING. YEAH, YOU CLICK ON IT YOU JUST HAVE TO CLICK.

YEAH, I'M SORRY I CAN'T GO TO YOU, SUE. WE CAN SEE YOU CAN GO NOW THAT SHOULD DO IT NOW. YEAH AND THEN I SEE YOU CAN SEE IT NOW AM OKAY SO NOW JUST GO TO THE POWER POINT OF VIEW AND THEN YOU SHARING NOW THE SHARING NOW SHARING YOUR MARK YES IT'S GOOD THANK YOU THANK YOU. IN AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT CHIMED IN ANYWAY LIKE I WAS THE AIRPORT AIRPORT STAFF LEADERSHIP AND ALL STAFF MEMBERS WERE UNDER A TON OF PRESSURE BUT IT'S A GOOD PRESSURE.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS GOING ON AT ONCE AND WE'RE DIVIDE AND CONQUER BETWEEN THE TWO AIRPORTS TO HANDLE IT AND IT'S KEEPING EVERYBODY EXTREME BUSY THIS SUMMER OBVIOUSLY.

JOHN IS NOT HERE. HE'S A CHAMPION EFFORTS FOR FUNDING FOR THE SECOND PHASE OF THE TERMINAL. SO LET ME GET INTO IT THE NEWEST GUY ON THE TEAM TO BE UNDER PRESSURE THAT I'M TALKING AND A GOOD PRESSURE IS MR. MARK O'BRIEN WHO WE JUST RECENTLY

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HE WORKED OVER ON THE AIR STATION. WE LEFT THE MARINE CORPS AS A GENERATOR OPERATOR AND A MECHANIC BUT PART OF MARINE CORPS AIR STATION THE AIR STATION PART NOT THE AIR SIDE IS THEY DO FACILITIES FOR THE ENTIRE BASE JUST LIKE A CITY OR TOWN WOULD DO. AND SO HIS EXPERIENCE IN VASI WORK ELECTRICAL WORK ON FACILITIES REALLY ENTICED US. BRING HIM ON. SO NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE MAINTENANCE TEAM WHO HAS A C CERTIFICATIONS AND ELECTRICAL WORK BUILDINGS THAT SAVES US MONEY SO WE CAN USE HIM TO FIX THAT. NORMALLY WE WOULD HAVE TO CALL IN SOMEBODY TO FIX SO VERY VERY WELCOME SOURCE TO THE TEAM HE'S MARRIED TO MS. JODI O'BRIEN AND HE CURRENTLY RESIDES ON HILTON HEAD SO THIS WORKS OUT GOOD TWIN CITIES HE HAD TO DRIVE FROM BEAUFORT OR HAMPTON OR SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GET HERE SO HE'S RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD WHICH MEANS HE'LL PROBABLY BE THE ON CALL GUY ON THE WEEKENDS WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO GO AWAY.

IT AS EVERYBODY KNOWS THE WATER FESTIVAL IS GOING ON OVER ON THE SIDE AND BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT WE ARE A SPONSOR OF THAT EVENT AND AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE PICTURES WE HAD ERIC ERIC FROM BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AND MARLENE WHO SET UP A TABLE OVER THERE THE YOUNG GENTLEMAN ON THE LEFT PICTURE TO THE LEFT SIDE OF MARLENE IS FRANK.

HE'S A HE'S A LINEMAN OVER AT BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AND FRANK WAS ALSO A FORMER COMMODORE OF THE WATER FESTIVAL AND A RIBBON ABOUT EVERY TIME I SEE HIM BUT WAS OBVIOUSLY THERE SUPPORTING THE AIRPORT THEY HAD A GOOD TIME THAN IT BEING EXTREMELY HOT.

THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST AND A LOT PEOPLE THAT CAME BY WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT ABOUT BEAUFORT EXECUTIVES VERY GOOD EVENT SOME OF TRAINING THAT'S GOING AT THE AIRPORT ON A REGULAR BASIS.

I THINK THEY GET OUT THERE NOW IT'S GREAT TO TRUCKS BECAUSE IT'S HOT AND IT KIND OF CALLS THEM OFF I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO BUT THEY DO THE TRAINING AND THEY CALL THAT THE PLANE DOWN SIMULATION SO ON OUR GIANT DIRT PILE AND MORE SO I THINK DO IT SO WHEN THEY READ THOSE MOTORS OUT THE SPRAY THAT WATER IT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE JOHN'S WINDOW SO THEY'RE JUST DOING IT TO IRRITATE JOHN I THINK HALF TIME AND THEY GET A KICK OUT OF IT SO GOOD TRAINING MOST PEOPLE IN HERE PROBABLY RECOGNIZE CHASE CHASE IS A VOLUNTEER THAT WE HAVE AT THE AIRPORT AND REALLY JUST A SMILING FACE TO SAY TO PEOPLE AND AND DOES HIS THINGS BUT HE IS EXTRA INTERESTED IN AIRPLANES HE LOVES AIRCRAFT AND IT WAS VERY, VERY INSTRUMENTAL THAT HE WAS ABLE TO COMPLETE AND PASS HIS ROAD TEST SO HE COULD GET A DRIVER'S LICENSE. HE'S EXTREMELY PROUD OF IT.

YOU CAN SEE THE MIAMI VICE CHASE LOOK COMING AT HIM IN HIS PARENTS CAR.

SO HE'S DRIVING AND THAT MEANS HE'S ALSO STARTING TO INVESTIGATE JOB OPPORTUNITIES WHICH HE DOESN'T WANT TO WORK ANYWHERE BUT AT AIRPORT AND IF HE CAN GET UP CLOSE TO THE JETS THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO HELP HIM OUT, SEE IF HE GET ON WITH ONE OF THE AIRLINES, YOU KNOW, DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO HELP HIM OUT.

BUT ULTIMATELY IF YOU COULD PUT HIM OUT THERE AND HE COULD MARSHAL AIRPLANES ALL DAY, HE'D BE HAPPY AND YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE TO DRAG HIM AWAY FROM DOING THAT SO.

WE'RE EXTREMELY PROUD OF CHASE AND WHAT HE IS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT'S BIG STEPS FOR HIM AND HE'S HAPPY AND WE'RE HAPPY FOR HIM SO HOPE YES MA'AM.

OUR AMBASSADORS A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY JUST REALLY ENJOY WORKING WITH CHASE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GIVE HIM TASKS RELATED JUST GIVING THEM INFORMATION ABOUT ARRIVAL FLIGHTS. YEAH YOU KNOW AND IT'S JUST BEEN A VERY GOOD ONE ONCE YOU GET TO KNOW THE KID HE'S JUST HE'S A MAGICAL YOUNG MAN. SO YES, WE LOVE HIM.

ALL RIGHT TERMINAL UPDATES THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT I WORK ON DAILY IT SEEMS BE THERE'S ALWAYS A POP UP HERE THERE EVERYWHERE SOMETHING'S ON THAT NEEDS TO BE DECIDED ON.

SO AS OF LATE YOU CAN SEE RUSSIA SNUCK THIS IN ON ME FANTASTIC FOUR I WOULD HAVE PUT A QUESTION MARK THAT BUT THAT'S MY AND JOHN HAVING ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH EDISON FORD THE CONTRACTORS OVER THERE TALKING ABOUT WHATEVER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT DAY I'M NOT SURE ONE OF THE ITEMS AT THE TOP RIGHT PICTURE IS THE LANE SHIFT AT THE TERMINAL.

SO THE NEW LANE IF YOU REMEMBER LOOKING AT PLANS THAT COMES INTO THE TERMINAL HAD BE BUILT

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SO RIGHT NOW THE AIRPORT TERMINAL IS USING THIS TEMPORARY ROAD TO FEED PEOPLE IN FOR ARRIVALS DEPARTURES AND IT'S A ONE LANE LOUNGE SO THAT'S CHALLENGING.

FENCES ARE EVERYWHERE. WE GOT SIGNS UP OVER BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW THINGS ARE RUNNING FAIRLY EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION TO LAY THE FACILITIES IN FRONT OF THE TERMINAL THEN THEY'LL COME BACK AND THEY'LL FILL THESE LANES IN AND WE'LL HAVE THE LANES LIKE THEY USED TO BE FILLED IN. THERE'S MORE PICTURES OF THAT. SO IF YOU'RE COMING TO THE AIRPORT PARKING LOT THAT LANE TO THE RIGHT THE DARK COLORED ASPHALT IS NOW BEING USED AND THE ONE TO THE LEFT IS SHUT OFF. SO THAT'S THE NEW FLOW, THE NEW LANES MORE PICTURES YOU SEE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION FENCES THAT ARE EVERYWHERE.

WE HAVE PATHWAYS FOR CUSTOMERS TO COME FROM THE RENTAL CAR LOT ,THE CUSTOMER PARKING LOT PATHWAYS FOR HANDICAPPED GET THROUGH AND PATHWAYS FOR THE TENANTS WORKING TO GET THROUGH SO I THINK THE FENCES EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T LOOK PLEASANT THEY'RE THERE AND PEOPLE IDENTIFY THAT THERE'S CONSTRUCTION GOING NOT TO MENTION THE GIANT BULLDOZERS THAT ARE OUT THERE RIPPING UP PARKING. SO IT'S WORKING.

THERE'S SOME SHOTS OF THE OF THE LANES WE HAD TO MOVE THE TAXIS.

YOU KNOW, THEY UNDERSTAND THEY NEED TO MOVE AROUND AS NEEDED SO OR PICTURES THIS IS THE FINISHED PRODUCT OF OF THE SLAB THAT WAS IN THE TOP RIGHT PICTURE ON THE IN THE DISTANCE YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT SLAB IS ELEVATED JUST TO THE RIGHT THAT'S GOING TO BE A RAMP THAT GOES FROM THE CURRENT TERMINAL INTO THE SCREENING AREA AND THAT RAMP LEADS UP SLIGHT INCLINE INTO THE THE WHOLE ROOM AREA WHICH HOUSES HOLD ROOM FOR THREE GATES ON THE SLAB ON THE LEFT IS THE LOWER SECTION AND THEY HAD TO DO THE LANE WORK NOW BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A PORTION IN THE DIRT THERE. DO YOU SEE THAT EVENTUALLY IS GOING TO BE SLAB AS WELL TO MEET UP BUT WE HAD TO MOVE ROAD ON THE WAY TEMPORARILY THEY'LL COME BACK AND POUR THAT LATER BUT FOR THE MOST PART ALL THE SLAB IS DONE WE HAVE THE STEEL IS ON SITE SO AS SOON AS THE STEEL CONTRACTOR COMES IN THEY'LL BE ERECTING STEEL AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THEM READY TO SEE SOMETHING GO VERTICAL. SO AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE DIRECTORS REPORT BECAUSE I KNOW I GOT MORE STUFF LATER ON SO ALL IN THAT NOW MR. CHAIRMAN I'M VERY PERHAPS A LITTLE MORE ATTENTION TO YOUR SIDE OF THE PAGE TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE AIRPORT SO THE CITIZENS CITIZEN FREEDOM OF PUBLICITY IN THE PAPERS I KNOW JOHN DOES VERY OFTEN BUT I DON'T SEE A LOT OF THAT EXPLANATION OCCURRING THE MOMENT PEOPLE REALLY HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE TIMES THEY SHOW UP NOW ALLOWING FOR TRAFFIC, EXTRA CONGESTION BOTH IN AND OUTSIDE THE AIRPORT. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME SOME PRESS RELEASES SHOULD I THINK GENERALLY LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ON A REGULAR BASIS I JUST WANT TO BE DONE BUT ONCE EVERY TWO OR THREE WEEKS AN AIRPORT UPDATE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY I AGREE OUR AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO PUT OUT PRESS RELEASES INTERVIEWS AND I THINK EVEN ERIC HAS DONE AN INTERVIEW OR TWO AS WELL. I DON'T LIKE IT IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA BUT OUR WEBSITE ALSO HAD THE I WANT MORE OF A ON THE WEBSITE A BIG NOTIFICATION WHERE YOU HAVE TO CLICK OFF OF IT TO GET IT TO GO AWAY SO IT'S IN THEIR FACE LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THERE'S CONSTRUCTION GOING ON BUT WE HAVE IT POSTED EVERYWHERE FACEBOOK OUR WEBSITE AND WE'LL WORK ON GETTING SOME MORE PRESS RELEASES OUT ON THAT.

SO JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND THE FLOW WORKS IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO DO A PRESS RELEASE THAT MEAN CAN YOU DIRECTLY CONTACT THE PAPER? DO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTY TO HAVE THAT PERSON THEIR PUBLIC RELATIONS PERSON CONTACT THE PAPER WHAT IS WHAT IS THE OFFICIAL KIND OF STEPS DO YOU KNOW I'M WITHOUT JOHN BEING HERE HE DOES THAT FLOW WITH THE PUBLIC RELATIONS AT THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE ARE ACCOUNTING ENTITY AND THEN THEY'LL REACH OUT AND THERE'S TIMES THAT ENTITIES OF THE COUNTY REACH OUT TO JOHN ON THOSE ASPECTS WITH HIS RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE ENTITIES I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT SAYING HE CAN GENERATE A PRESS RELEASE AT A NOTICE BUT THAT STILL WOULD GO THROUGH THE COUNTY THAT WE CAN TALK. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M CERTAIN. OKAY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, STEVE. THANK YOU. SO DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION

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I THINK WE FINISHED ALL IN JUNE. CORRECT.

[1. GRANT ACCEPTANCE - RECOMMENDATION TO ACCEPT FAA BIL AIG GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $825,757 FOR AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN (HXD) - VOTE]

SO STEVE, YOU WANT STEP BACK UP AND GO THROUGH OUR ACTION ITEMS ONE THROUGH THIS IS A NEW RECORD AT LEAST AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE THERE ARE EIGHT ACTION ITEMS. THE NEW RECORD NOW HAS BEEN THE NEW BAR HAS BEEN SET TO EIGHT ACTUALLY SINCE I DIDN'T GET TO THE BAR MUST SAY DO WE GET A NEW PRINTER SO WE PRINT NOW THE BACK SIDE THERE'S TEN THERE'S TEN NINE SO WE'VE GOT TWO SIDES REALLY WE REALLY NEED TO BE TOLD THIS BEFORE WE'RE USUALLY WE GET TWO SHEETS OF PAPER SO WE HAVE TEN ACTION ITEMS THAT IS NEW THE NEW BAR THAT HAS BEEN SET SO DON'T YOU GO AHEAD. WE'LL WALK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM.

GO ON ONE AND THEN YOU'LL DO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY.

SO THE FIRST ITEM IS A GRANT ACCEPTANCE I NEED YOU GUYS TO VOTE ON TO RECOMMEND AND ACCEPT AN FAA BILL AIG GRANT FOR THE AMOUNT OF 825,757 AND DOLLARS FOR THE AT THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN. AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE ,IN 2011 WAS THE LAST PLAN THAT WAS AND THOSE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN ALL BUT COMPLETED. SO THAT MEANS WE'RE THE TIMEFRAME WHERE WE NEEDED TO CONTRACT WITH AL AND RYAN ELLINGTON WHO WON BID TO DO A NEW AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT FUNDING IS GOING TOWARDS AND IS THAT A SO THAT AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN IS LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE LIKE A OR TEN YEAR PLAN INTO THE FUTURE. IT'S NOT DEALING WITH ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING NOW.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND LAYING OUT ALL THE PROJECTS FOR FUTURE OF THE FUTURE THAT'S THE MASTER PLAN. MASTER PLAN, YEAH. OKAY.

JUST JUST FOR HILTON HEAD. HILTON HEAD AND AND AND OKAY THEY DO THIS THEY HAVE THE CONTRACT FOR ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. SO CAN I GET A THERE WE GO JIM SECOND.

OKAY. GOT THAT AND WE NOW HAVE A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR SAY I, I I'M GOING

[2. GRANT ACCEPTANCE - RECOMMENDATION TO ACCEPT FAA AIP GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $325,769 FOR ST. JAMES BAPTIST CHURCH RELOCATION ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTATION PHASE I (HXD) - VOTE]

GO AHEAD JOHN GRANT ACCEPTANCE NUMBER TWO NO THEY'RE FAA THIS AP GRANT AMOUNT OF 325,769 FOR ST JAMES BAPTIST CHURCH RELOCATION AND THIS IS THE EIA OR AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT THAT HAS TO BE DONE SO IN COORDINATION WITH THE FAA REQUIRED US TO DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR THAT SO THIS PORTION IS STRICTLY FOR THE EIA PORTION WITH THE FUTURE POSSIBLE MOVEMENT OF ST JAMES. BUT I HAVE A ONE WAY TOO QUICK TOO FAST AND FAST. I THOUGHT YOU HAD A QUESTION MY QUESTION IS THE RECENT ARTICLE IN THE PACKET INDICATED WHERE THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF FUNDS TO MOVE ST BAPTIST CHURCH AND THEY WERE I DON'T KNOW QUITE A BIT OF THAT THEY STILL NEED IS THE CHURCH RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REST OF THAT MONEY OR IS THAT MONEY WHERE IT'S AN AIRPORT CONNECTION I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK BEHALF OF THE ISLAND PACKET I DIDN'T READ THAT SO UNAWARE OF WHERE OR WHAT THEY'RE CALLING LACK OF FUNDING WAS IN THE MILLIONS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE INACCURATE OR ACCURATE. I CAN SAY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PROCESS IS THAT HAVE TO TAKE PLACE IN EAA FOR EXAMPLE I GUESS AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE EAA COULD HAVE BEEN THOUGHT OF AS A LACK OF FUNDING BECAUSE WE WERE NOT DIRECTED TO DO AN EAA BUT THE SECOND WE'RE DIRECTED TO DO AN EAA THE FAA WAS ABLE TO FUND THAT PORTION. SO EVEN THOUGH THERE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN FUNDS FOR IT WE APPLIED FOR IT AND WE GOT THE FUNDS.

SO BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK ON THAT ISLAND PACKET. SURE.

SO IF I EVER SAW ANY WAS IT WAS KIND OF A NEGATIVE ARTICLE WHICH IS NOT UNUSUAL THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. BUT THERE WAS DEACONS INVOLVED AND SO MUST THAT SAID IT WAS IT WAS IN THE MILLIONS BUT I KIND OF THOUGHT THE TOWN AND THE FAA ETC. ETC. ALL THE FUNDING WAS IN PLACE. I DID NOT PERSONALLY SIT IN ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS, JOHN SAID.

AND ALL OF THEM I'LL DEFER HIM TO GIVE HIS THOUGHTS ON ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE DURING THOSE MEETINGS. YES SIR. DO YOU WANT TO HEAR THE COUNTY SIDE OF IT OR DOES THAT MATTER AT THIS POINT? I WAS ACTUALLY WITH JOHN AND TOM DAVIES YESTERDAY. IRVING YEAH. PLEASE.

THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME MORE MONEY NEEDED. THIS IS A PROCESS THERE'S NOTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT HAVING SO FUTURE FUNDS THAT ARE NEEDED AS STEVE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE

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WELL THIS PROJECT IS MOVING NICELY. IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME WITH I DON'T SEE THERE'S NOTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT PLANNING OUT THE FUTURE IT'S BEEN PRETTY LONG THE PACKET YEAH I AGREE WITH THAT I'LL I'LL ECHO WHAT MR. REID SAID AS WELL AND I'LL ADD TO THAT THE COMMUNICATION THE FAA, THE DEACONS OF THE CHURCH THE AIRPORT, THE STATE AND COUNTY LEADERSHIP IS VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD COMMUNICATE NATION AND EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC. WHAT SOMEBODY GOES TO THE PACKET WITH I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. YOU KNOW HOW THEY HAVE THAT STUFF.

YEAH JOHN IS ACTUALLY MEETING THIS PRETTY WELL STANDARD, KEEPING US ALL TOGETHER ON IT AND IT'S A JOINT EFFORT. SO IF I HAVE A QUESTION FOR IS THIS GRAND ACCEPTANCE THAT WE'RE ABOUT VOTE ON IS THIS FOR THE STUDY OR THE REMOVAL OF THE CHURCH FROM ITS PRESENT LOCATION OR IS IT THE STUDY ON THE LOCATION OF THE CHURCH IS GOING TO BE MOVED TO OR IS IT A COMBINATION OF BOTH? BOTH. SO IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY FOR BOTH THE WELL THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS HOW TO DO AN ACCURATE ENVIRONMENTAL BUT IT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T ENCROACH ON ENVIRONMENTAL ENTITIES CURRENT AND WHERE IT'S GOING. AND THEN ACTUALLY I HAVE A QUESTION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A WATER TOM BECAUSE WE WE HAD AN OCCASION TO BE BRIEFED A LITTLE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ON THIS PROJECT AND I THOUGHT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THEY WERE PRETTY CLOSE TO COMPLETING AN AGREEMENT BUT AND THIS PROJECT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AS YOU KNOW HAS BEEN ONGOING YEARS AND YEARS AND IT SEEMS TO BE A MOVING TARGET EVERY TIME COUNTY IN THE STATE AND THE CHURCH GET CLOSE TO SOLVING THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE GETS EXTENDED AND THE DOLLARS SEEM TO GET EXTENDED TIME THEY HAVE A MEETING. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE TOTAL COST ANTICIPATED TO BE FOR THE RELOCATION OF THE CHURCH FROM ITS EXISTING LOCATION TO ITS PROPOSED LOCATION ON UNION CEMETERY ROAD? OUR ONE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MONTHS ON THE TALKS ARE EXTREMELY THERE'S A COUPLE APPROACHES THAT THE COUNTY IN THE TOWN ARE THINKING ABOUT HOW TO DO IT AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS WE YESTERDAY GAVE APPROVAL TO THE CHURCH WE'LL GET SOME ESTIMATES ON CONSTRUCTION AND ALL OF THAT THAT WENT EXTREMELY WELL. SO WITHIN THE NEXT PROBABLY RESUPPLIES CAMPUS NUMBERS THAT TO GIVE A REAL GOOD ESTIMATE ESTIMATE THE COST WOULD BE AS FAR AS THE TOTAL I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD COMMENT ON THAT RIGHT NOW IT IS A MOVING TARGET BUT THEY'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO HAVING THOSE NUMBERS BUT LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT WHETHER IT BE A STATE LOAN OR FEDERAL TYPE APPROACH. SO AGAIN THAT IS A MOVING TARGET WITH STONEWALL AND IS IT FAIR TO SAY IT'S ACTUALLY NOT A RELOCATION BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CURRENT BUILDING IS NOT GOING TO PICK THAT BUILDING UP AND, MOVE IT THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO DISAPPEAR AND BE A WHOLE NEW BUILDING OR SOME OF THE THINGS SAY BUILDINGS CREATED ON UNION CEMETERY ROAD THAT SO IT'S STILL THE CASE. YEAH THAT'S TRUE IT'S GOING TO BE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED BASED ON THIS AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE FAA AND COMES BACK TO THE COUNTY, GOES BACK TO THE TOWN. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT AS AS THE AIRPORT WE CAN'T DETERMINE OR SAY WHAT THE TOTAL COST IS GOING TO BE TO MOVE NOR DO WE HAVE THE ENGINEERING PLATFORM AT THE AIRPORT TO DETERMINE HOW IT'S GOING TO BE MOVED WHERE IT'S GOING TO MOVE. THAT'S DECISIONS EVERYBODY IN THESE MEETINGS ARE MAKING AND IS CONTINUOUS. IS THE AIRPORT INTENDING TO CONTRIBUTE AIRPORT FUNDS TO THE MOVE OR IS THE AIRPORT'S LIABILITY LIMITED TO THE GRANT THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON?

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BUT IS IS THE AIRPORT COMMITTED TO GIVING ADDITIONAL FLOW TO THE PROJECT? THE TOTAL IS 359 316 FEDERAL IS COVERING 323 384 STATE ZERO LOCAL MATCH 35 932 THAT'S ON THE BACK OF DOCUMENTS SO FEEL FREE TO ADD THAT YOU KEEP SAYING ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS AND IT'S NOT A PHASE ONE, IT'S AN A, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN ENVIRONMENTAL. THE FAA IS REQUIRING US THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IS IN A YEAR AND THERE'S STILL A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT TO DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL.

THAT'S RIGHT. BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN THINK ABOUT PLANNING AND BUDGETING FOR THE PROJECT DO WE OWN THE PROPERTY ALREADY FOR THE CHURCH THE OTHER PROPERTY THAT WE'RE MOVING THE CHURCH TO WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

OKAY TOWN OF HILTON HEAD OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT THE CHURCH BEING MOVED TO.

OKAY. YEAH OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S WHY IT'S BEING AN FAA REQUIREMENT DUE TO SAFETY IS THE REASON THAT CHURCH HAS TO MOVE. YEAH THE REASON THE CHURCH HAS TO MOVE IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION THAN THEM REQUIRING TO PERFORM AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.

SO THIS GRANT, IS THE FAA SAYING YOU HAVE TO PERFORM AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND YOU NEED TO APPLY FOR FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO FUND THAT ASSESSMENT FOR THE WHOLE WHATEVER THAT KIND? OKAY. WE'RE IN AN AIRPORT.

WE APPLY FOR THE FUNDS FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT. WE GET AN INDEPENDENT FEE ALLOCATION OUT THERE TO LIKE ANOTHER QUOTE AND THIS FALLS IN LINE WITH HOW MUCH IT FOR AN EPA AND THE FAA IS GOING TO FUND IT AND WE HAVE A PORTION OF THAT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER GRANT SO YOU'RE STILL OKAY WE GET RICH NUMBER ONE WE GET A NUMBER TWO.

ALL RIGHT A STANCE SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY I AM OPPOSED HEARING NONE MOTION PASSES WE'LL MOVE

[3. GRANT ACCEPTANCE – RECOMMENDATION TO ACCEPT SCAC GRANT 24-0XX IN THE AMOUNT OF $750,000 FOR AIRPORT TERMINAL PROJECT (HXD) – VOTE]

NUMBER THREE IS SOUTH CAROLINA AVIATION COMMISSION A GRANT REQUEST FROM THE AIRPORT.

IT'S A SPECIAL ALLOCATION THAT'S BEING GIVEN TO THE AIRPORT IN AMOUNT OF $750,000.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THAT GRANT AND THIS WILL GO FOR THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT TERMINAL PROJECT. OKAY. MOVE TO ACCEPT NO QUESTIONS I DIDN'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE ANY QUESTIONS. SO WE'VE GOT HOWARD ON NUMBER ONE. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT BRYAN NUMBER TWO AND LET'S DO IT THE ALL OPPOSED SAY BY SIGNIFYING I'M NOT OPPOSED WE CAN PASS THE MOTION WAY AS

[4. RESOLUTION - RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A NONTENANT COMMERCIAL OPERATING AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND STEVENS AEROSPACE AND DEFENSE SYSTEMS - VOTE]

NUMBER FOUR IS TO APPROVE THE NON TENANT COMMERCIAL OPERATOR BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND STEPHENS AEROSPACE AND DEFENSE SYSTEM. THERE'S A MAINTENANCE COMPANY THAT WE WORKED WITH FOR A LONG TIME. WE'RE JUST RENEWING THEIR CONTRACT TO COME IN AND DO MAINTENANCE ON ON THE COMMERCIAL AIRPLANES AGAINST THESE SYSTEMS THE SAME AS THE ONE LAST MONTH THAT WE DID. IS THIS DIFFERENT? WE'RE IN THAT TIME OF YEAR WHERE A LOT OF OUR AGREEMENTS AND CONTRACTS ARE JUST COMING UP FOR RENEWAL? SO ABOUT THE BUNDLE THE NEXT THREE IF I CAN WITH YOUR PERMISSION. SO OKAY IS THIS FOR BOTH OF FOR THE EXECUTIVE AND WE DON'T HAVE COMMERCIAL AND NO ONE COMMERCIAL SAYS JUST HELLMAN CAN I GET FIRST MOTION? ALL RIGHT, BRIAN AND I NEED A SECOND RICH OKAY. ALL THE POLLS PLEASE STATE BY

[5. RESOLUTION - RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A LETTER OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND APPLE TRANSPORTATION - VOTE]

NUMBER FIVE RESOLUTION. OKAY. AND GENTLEMAN NUMBER FIVE, SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT ARE ALL AND THEY ARE ALL TAXI COMPANIES. WE HAVE APPLE TRANSPORTATION FERGUSON TRANSPORTATION NATIVE ISLANDER TRANSPORTATION AND SJ TAXI COMPANY.

WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THEM NOW THEY'RE DUE FOR RE THEY'RE UP THEY'RE ABOUT TO EXPIRE.

SO THIS IS JUST ENTERING NEW AGREEMENTS WITH THOSE TAXI COMPANIES THAT WE ALREADY DO WITH. OKAY, HOLD ON. I GOT A QUESTION ON THAT ONE.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION THEN YOU GET TO GO. LADIES FIRST JUST WITH ALL OF THE NEW CHANGES ON THE DRIVER, I KNOW THAT THESE THESE FOUR COMPANIES HAVE PRIORITY BECAUSE THEY'RE AIRPORT APPROVED TENANTS. WHAT ABOUT UBER AND ALL OF THE NON APPROVED TENANTS WHERE ARE THEY GOING NOW? CAN THEY EVEN GET IN THERE AT

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WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THEM AS WELL. HOWEVER THEY HAVE PLACES ELSEWHERE IN THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE WE CANNOT HAVE AN UBER PULL UP AND JUST SIT AND WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO CALL THEM TO PULL UP. THEY DON'T MEET THE SAME CERTIFICATIONS REGULATIONS THAT A TAXI HAS TO MEET SO THEY MUST STAND FROM THE TERMINAL.

BUT THERE ARE AGREEMENTS YOU'RE GOING SEE THOSE TWO COME IN WHEN THEY'RE READY.

WHAT ABOUT DROP OFFS OVER? OH THEY CAN DROP OFF AND PICK UP BUT THEY CAN'T JUST SIT THERE AND SOLICIT BUSINESS SAY ANYBODY NEED A TAXI STANDING AT THEIR VEHICLE? ARE THESE TAXI COMPANIES DO OF THEM HAVE TO PAY A FEE TO THE AIRPORT.

YES OKAY THEY THE STANDARD AGREEMENT OPERATOR AGREEMENT FEES ON PERCENTAGE OF WHATEVER THEY DO BUT UBER DOES NOT OR LEFT UBER PAYS UBER AND LYFT THEIR VEHICLES ARE GEOFENCE SO EVERY TIME THEY CROSS THE BOUNDARY WHETHER THEY HAVE A PICKUP OR NOT AS SOON AS THEY CROSS THE BOUNDARY INTO THE AIRPORT THERE'S A I CAN'T THE EXACT FEE BUT THERE IS A FEE IS AUTOMATICALLY CHARGED AND BIG UBER OR BIG LYFT CORPORATION IS AN AGREEMENT WITH US AND THEY PAY US THOSE FEES AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH STANDARD AT ALL.

YES. YES. I ALWAYS WONDERED THAT YES SIR . RIGHT. SEVERAL OF THE PASSENGERS THAT ARE DEPLANING OR ASKING ABOUT AIRPORT SHUTTLES TO HOTELS AND THEY DON'T EXIST HERE.

CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THEY NOT AND WHY THEY DO IT OTHER PLACES? I CAN DO MY BEST TO EXPLAIN THAT AND WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS A PRODUCT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE THIS WAS BEFORE MY TENURE HERE A PRODUCT OF THE COVID SHUT DOWN THE THEMSELVES START RUNNING SHUTTLES FROM THE HOTELS TO THE AIRPORT AND FOR WHATEVER REASON I'VE HEARD STAFFING I'VE HEARD THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY TO RUN PEOPLE TO THE AIRPORT FROM THE HOTEL BUT THOSE ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOTELS AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO ENTER IN THEIR AGREEMENT BASED EITHER BED COUNTS AT THE HOTEL OR THERE'S OTHER THAT WE COULD NEGOTIATE TO PROVIDE A SHUTTLE SERVICE. WE DO HAVE ANOTHER SHUTTLE SERVICE PRIVATE ON THE ISLAND THAT DID IN OUR AGREEMENT WITH US SO THEY NOW ARE ALLOWED TO COME IN AND EXIT AND THAT AGREEMENT WON'T COME UP ANYTIME SOON BUT 30,000 FOOT LEVEL THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS. OKAY. AWESOME.

THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO WE STILL HAVE TO DO EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY. I'M I BELIEVE SO WE'LL START OUT WITH CAN I GET A MOTION ON NUMBER FIVE RESOLUTION FIRST WHICH SECOND? OKAY.

JUST BE READY TO RAISE YOUR HANDS. WE'LL JUST USE BOTH OF YOU FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE AND GOOD ANYONE OPPOSED TO IT PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I HEARING

[6. RESOLUTION - RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A LETTER OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND FERGUSON TRANSPORTATION – VOTE]

[7. RESOLUTION - RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A LETTER OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND NATIVE ISLANDER’S TRANSPORTATION - VOTE]

[8. RESOLUTION - RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A LETTER OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND S & J EXPRESSWAY TAXI – VOTE]

[9. BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT HANGAR PROJECT DESIGN - RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE ARW HANGAR PROJECT DESIGN - VOTE]

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WE JUST COULDN'T GET AWAY WITH THAT ON TOP OF SOME STORMWATER POND RIGHT HERE AND STORMWATER PONDING DOWN HERE THE BEST WAS TO MAKE THAT AN EIGHT T HANGAR STANDARD BUILDING AND THEN FINALLY OVER TO THE LEFT SIDE THIS IS THE CURRENT BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT TERMINAL.

SO THE RUNWAY IS OUT HERE. SO THIS IS THE GRASSY AREA THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE TERMINAL WE ARE GOING TO WHERE WE DESIGN FOR US WAS AT 60 BY 120 I BELIEVE IS WAS IS I SEE IT OR BIG SIZED BOX HANGAR OVER THERE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE SOME LARGER AIRCRAFT THAT NORMALLY WOULD NOT FIT IN A TI HANGAR. SO WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO PROVE THAT DESIGN AND THEN DESIGN ONE THING BECAUSE I WAS WORKING WITH SOME OTHERS ON THE AIR W IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE THIS DESIGN HAD TO BE FAA APPROVES WHEN HE WAS SAYING THE WIDTH WINGTIP WINGTIP THAT'S PART OF THE FAA AND IT IS DIFFERENT WIDTH THAN WHAT THE OTHER WIDTHS ARE AT THE OTHER HANGARS BECAUSE THAT WASN'T A THAT WASN'T A REQUIREMENT AND WITH THE FAA AT TIME WHEN THOSE HANGARS WERE BUILT IT IS NOW A REQUIREMENT AND IT'S IT'S MUCH WIDER.

I WILL ADD ONE THING. THANKS, CHRIS FOR REMINDING ME THIS AREA OVER HERE THERE'S TWO ITEMS OVER HERE. WHAT I'M CIRCLING IS THE CURRENT A LOS WEATHER STATION AND RIGHT IS A BRICK LIGHTING VAULT SO IN ORDER TO TO BE ABLE TO FIT FOR WHAT CHRIS WAS OUTLINING WINGTIP CLEARANCE THIS WEATHER STATION NEEDS TO BE MOVED TO THIS AREA TO ACCOMPANY THE WINGSPAN THIS BRICK BUILDING WE COULDN'T MOVE THEREFORE THAT RESTRICTED OUR WINGTIP ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE AND IT SAVES A LOT OF US A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY PRETTY EXPENSIVE TO HAPPEN TO MOVE THAT IS ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CAN YOU TELL US THAT THE PROJECTED SCOPE OF FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROJECT THAT'S WHAT WE'LL GET INTO YEAH YEAH YOU GET INTO THAT YES THE NEXT ITEM WILL GET INTO THAT I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW. YES RIGHT YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION APPROVED. OKAY SO I CAN ALL RIGHT. WELL HOW DID YOU GET TO NEXT ON THE RECORD? YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO I SPREAD IT.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT, I'LL POSE PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I'M HEARING THE MOTION SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO TEN BEFORE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT HANGAR PROJECT FUNDING IN JUST SECOND AND ONE LAST CONCURRENCE FROM ONLINE WORLD I SEE. OH I DIDN'T SEE YOU CLICK SHARE

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[10. BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT HANGAR PROJECT FUNDING - RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE ARW HANGAR PROJECT FUNDING - VOTE]

SO ITEM NUMBER TEN WHICH IS THE ONE THAT I KNEW I'D PROBABLY BE HERE FOR A FEW MINUTES AND WANTED DISCUSS WITH EVERYONE ON THE BOARD THE RW COMMITTEE AND BOARD CHAIRMAN BUTLER AND MR. STORMS STORMS MET WITH MYSELF JOHN AND JARED FRAIL IT'S FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY WHICH IS AN ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE COUNTY LEGAL LAWYER FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY.

WE WANTED TO HAVE THOSE FOLKS IN THE ROOM SO THAT WE COULD DISCUSS FUNDING POSSIBLE FUNDING AVENUES AND AND ABILITIES TO BUILD THIS PROJECT HOW AND FOR YOUR AND WE SIT DOWN WE I THINK IN MY OPINION THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST PRODUCTIVE MEETINGS BECAUSE IT WAS VERY EVIDENT AND VERY QUICK AND VERY COMMUNICATE AMONG ALL PARTIES IDEAS STARTED FLOWING OUT AND VERY QUICKLY WE WE CAME ACROSS THREE SPECIFIC IDEAS AS VALIDATED VERIFIED WITH COUNTY LEGAL AT THE TIME THAT THOSE COULD BE WORKED IN AND NEGOTIATED ALL THE AT THAT POINT IN TIME WERE LEGITIMATE TO AS POSSIBLE FUNDING SOLUTIONS FOR THE HANGARS AT BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT SO I CAN GO THROUGH THIS SLIDE SHOW QUICK I CAN GO THROUGH IT SLOW BUT IN YOUR PACKAGE AT THE VERY BACK IS A NARRATIVE THAT I PUT TOGETHER FOR EVERYBODY TO TRY TO HELP EXPLAIN THE POWERPOINT SO YOU CAN FOLLOW ON THERE OR CAN I CAN I CAN GO THROUGH IT ON THE POWERPOINT AS WELL I DID GET WITH OUR BUDGET DEPARTMENT ,BRIAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD DO OF THESE OPTIONS AND HOW THEY WOULD BE HOW WOULD THEY FUNCTION AS YOU GUYS SEE FROM THE PLANS WE HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR 12 NESTED EIGHT STANDARD HANGARS AND THOSE T HANGARS WOULD GENERATE ROUGHLY $10,000 A MONTH OR 120,000 ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND IT CAN BE DIFFERENT WITH THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN JUST A SECOND. ADDITIONALLY WE PROPOSED AND WHAT WE'RE OF CALLING THE THE HOTEL BOX HANGAR THE REASON WE CALLED IT THE HOTEL BOX HANGAR IS BECAUSE WE WOULD USE THAT HANGAR THAT I SHOWED YOU ON THE PLANS AS LIKE A NIGHTLY RENTAL YOU'RE MORE YOU'RE YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET MORE REVENUE RENTING THIS OUT PER NIGHT THAN YOU WOULD ON A MONTHLY BASIS SO JUST LIKE A HOTEL WE'RE KIND OF NICKNAMING THE HOTEL BOX HANGER AS THE BIGGER ONE AND THEN WE HAVE THE SMALLER 50 BY 50 BOX HANGAR AS WELL. OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY KNOWS THE PUBLIC THE FLYING PUBLIC HAS EXPRESSED A HUGE DESIRE FOR MORE HANGAR SPACE THAT'S NATIONWIDE. EVERYBODY WANTS A HANGAR AND EVERYBODY NEEDS ONE BUILT NOW WE HAVE SPENT THE PAST TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS WORKING THROUGH DESIGN BACK AND FORTH STORMWATER PERMITS, ALL THESE OTHER ITEMS TO BE ABLE TO BUILD HANGARS.

NOW WE'RE AT THE MOMENT IN TIME WHERE WE ARE CONFIDENT A BID WENT OUT FOR THE CIVIL WORKS.

SO TWO BIDDING OPPORTUNITIES ARE GOING ONE FOR THE CIVIL WORK WHICH WHAT THAT MEANS IS FROM THE GROUND LEVEL DOWN ALL THE STORMWATER ALL THE GROUND LEVEL FACILITY LOW THAT'S A BID IN ITS OWN IN THE SECOND BID WILL BE THE CONSTRUCTION BID FOR THE HANGARS.

SO THE FIRST BID HAS IS NOW OUT AND THE PUBLIC AND THE CONSTRUCTION BID WILL GO OUT A MONTH LATER. SO IN AUGUST WE'LL PUT OUT THE CONSTRUCTION BID ONCE I GET THE NUMBERS BACK FROM THAT WHEN I'LL HAVE THE NUMBER THAT I CAN GO TO THE STATE AND APPLY FOR A GRANT I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS BEFORE I CAN APPLY FOR TOTAL.

TOTAL REVENUE FOR HANGARS IS ESTIMATED AT 15,600 SO I BELIEVE THIS IS OPTION A AND THE WAY BRIAN PUT THIS OUT WE'RE ASSUMING THE ESTIMATED HANGAR REVENUE SO WE'RE USING CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS WHEN WE'RE COMING UP WITH THESE NUMBERS MORE CONSERVATIVE I CAN GET THE MORE LIKELIHOOD WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT NUMBER SO IT'S A IT'S A PRETTY SOLID NUMBER IF WE HAD 20 UNITS AND WE CHARGE $500 A MONTH WHICH AGAIN IS VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THE TI HANGARS WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN ABOUT 10,000 WE KNOW WE WILL BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT WAITLIST 10,000 A MONTH ANNUALLY HUNDRED AND 20,000 ASSUMING THE BOX THE HOTEL BOX RENTAL ASSUMING WE

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PROJECT COSTS BREAK DOWN THE SITE, WORK WITH SOME OF THE NUMBER ESTIMATES AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I HIGHLIGHT THE WORD ESTIMATE SITE WORK IS ESTIMATED AT APPROXIMATELY TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THE BOX HANGAR CONSTRUCTION APPROXIMATELY $1,000,000.

THE SINGLE SMALLER BOX UNIT APPROXIMATELY 200,000. THE 12 NESTED UNITS THAT BUILDING APPROXIMATELY 1,000,008 STANDARD UNITS OR UNNECESSARY APPROXIMATELY HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND THEN THE AIRPORT'S PORTION OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA GRANT WHICH WAS LOOKING AT 40% WOULD BE A $400,000. SO THE ESTIMATED PROJECT COST WE'RE WE'RE USING 5,900,000 AS THAT COST TO SHOW THE COMPARISONS OPTION A THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE GROUP THAT CAME OVER OPTION A IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS AND THIS INVOLVES THE USE AND AS YOU GUYS MIGHT RECALL WE HAVE A BALANCE OF ONE FOR $1.4 MILLION LEFT ANN ARBOR FUNDS WE'VE HAD TO SPEND SOME OF THAT FOR SOME OF THE DESIGN WORK WE HAD 1.5 SO WE'RE DOWN TO A LITTLE OVER 1.4 MILLION AS WELL AS THE UTILIZATION OF 600,000 AND CAC GRANT FUNDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF THE MONEY THE MILLION THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO ASK OPTION A WOULD INVOLVE SALE OF THE 12 NESTED AND EIGHT STANDARD TI HANGARS AND AGAIN WE'RE USING ESTIMATED NUMBERS IF WE SOLD THOSE FOR $120,000 PER UNIT IT COULD GENERATE UPFRONT CASH EQUAL IN $2.4 MILLION. THE TOTAL FUNDS GENERATED FROM THREE SOURCES THE ARPA FUNDS THE GRANT MONEY AND THE SELL IF WE WERE TO USE THAT AS AN OPTION WOULD COME TO AROUND $4.4 MILLION AND IF WE UNDERSTAND THAT OUR THAT WE THINK IS TO BUILD THE WHOLE PROJECT IS $5.9 MILLION THAT STILL LEAVES $1.5 MILLION ESTIMATED THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND OR COME UP WITH AND ABLE TO UTILIZE THE OPTION A AS A FUNDING SOURCE I'LL GIVE YOU A SECOND TO DIGEST THAT AND ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANTED TO ON OPTION A THE BASE BASIC PART OF THIS IS WE LOSE $1.5 MILLION.

YES. SELL THE HANGARS BASED ON THE AMOUNT THAT YOU ARE SO THE ONLY OTHER OPTION IS YOU WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE THE PRICE ANYTHING THAT YOU SOLD TO MAKE UP THE DEFICIT. BUT EVEN IF YOU MAKE UP THE DEFICIT THE ONLY THING YOU'RE GETTING IS NOTHING YOU COULD GET IT TO ZERO. YEAH.

SO IS IT SAFE TO SAY WHAT AGREE? I THINK OPTION IS NOT A GOOD OPTION. WE'RE NOT MAKING MONEY. NO.

SO OKAY REMEMBER THE REVENUES THAT ARE SHOWN UP FRONT THAT TIES INTO THIS.

YES. IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE RENTAL OF THE HANGAR IS YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO GET WHAT GRANDMA'S RENT. THAT'S CORRECT.

INSTEAD OF THE PILOT AND IN YOUR WAY IN THE WAY FUNDS SEE YOUR PROBLEMS YOU PROBABLY GET 200 BUCKS A MONTH INSTEAD OF 500 SO YOU STILL GET SOME REVENUE BUT YOU JUST OF AT THAT POINT AT 1.5 RIGHT. OKAY WE'RE STILL AT 1.5 AND THE REVENUE WE GENERATE FROM A GRAND AND THESE DOESN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO THE REVENUE POTENTIAL REVENUE THAT'S A SURE CORRECT. CORRECT. MOVING ON OPTION B OPTION B WAS BROUGHT TO ALMOST KIND OF LIKE SELLING BUT NOT REALLY KIND OF SELLING A LICENSE FEE GUARANTEE PEOPLE ONE OF THE T HANGARS AGAIN THERE'S 12 AND THERE'S EIGHT FOR A TOTAL OF 20 T HANGARS. CONSERVATIVELY A $60,000 LICENSING FEE WOULD GUARANTEE A T HANGAR FOR WHOEVER CHOSE TO PURCHASE THAT LICENSE AGREEMENT AND IT WOULD GUARANTEE THEM A HANGAR ONCE IT WAS CONSTRUCTION IN ADDITION TO THE ARBOR AND THE SOUTH CAROLINA MONEY I OUTLINE IN OPTION A THE LICENSE FEE AT THIS NUMBER WOULD BRING IN AN ADDITIONAL $1.2 MILLION IN FUNDING. NOW LIKE LIKE THE MR. CHAIRMAN SAID BEFORE WE COULD INCREASE

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YEP AND AT THE END IF SOMEBODY WANTED SELL WHEN THEY DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANT THE T HANGAR ANYMORE THEY WOULD GET THEIR 60,000 OUR LICENSING FEE BACK WHEN SOMEONE ELSE WHEN SOMEBODY PURCHASES THAT OPEN LICENSE THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE. SO THIS IS AN AVENUE TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE UP FOR UPFRONT FUNDS IN ORDER TO FUND THE PROJECT QUESTIONS I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA YEAH I THINK THE RENTAL FEES ARE NOT SHOWING UP IN THIS ANALYSIS NO WRITTEN RENTAL FEES BE IN THE ANALYSIS THE QUESTION WOULD BE IS WHAT YOU'D HAVE TO DO IS YOUR A 2.7 AGAINST THE ENTIRE PROJECT OF 5.9 SO REALITY IS WHAT YOU DO IS YOU DON'T DO 2.7 OF IT YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY LOOKING AT IT WHAT REALLY HURTS THE PROJECT.

THE BIGGEST EXPENSE WE GOT IN THERE IS SITE PREP BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF UNDERWATER ON TOP OF THE RETAINING POND. WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF UNDERWATER STORM RETENTION IS VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN AREA IN THE AIRPORT TO PUT OUT ANOTHER BOND BUT A LARGE ENOUGH POND AND IT TO WHERE IT COULD GO. YEAH.

AND IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR THOUGHT THERE FOR SECOND GOING BACK TO THE PROPOSED REVENUES THAT WOULD BE THE SAME RENT THAT WE WOULD GET FROM THE TWO HANGARS WITH A LICENSE AGREEMENT VERSUS OPTION A WHICH IS A GROUND LEASE ONLY. YEAH YEAH THAT CLEARED UP A LITTLE BIT YEAH YEAH. WHEN YOU'RE YEAH WHEN YOU EXAMINED THE THE POTENTIAL FEES THAT YOU'RE OUTLINING ARE YOU ALSO LOOKING AT THE COMPETITIVE POSITION IN THE MARKETPLACE OVER THE FEES SOMEWHAT ARBITRARY YES. TO PLUG IN TO IN OUR REGION AND IN OUR AREA THROUGHOUT THE STATE AS WELL AS OTHER AIRPORTS LIKE BEAUFORT EXECUTIVES ALONG THE COAST BECAUSE HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT TOO. WE COULD BE YOU COULD BE AN INLAND AIRPORT NOT DOWNGRADING ANYBODY NEAR COLUMBIA BUT TYPICALLY PEOPLE AREN'T TRAVELING TO COLUMBIA FOR VACATION. THEY WOULD BE COMING TO THE COAST. WE LOOKED AT THE REGIONAL AIRPORTS AND WE LOOKED AT AIRPORTS ALONG THE COAST AS MUCH INFORMATION AS THEY WOULD GIVE US TO HOW MUCH THEY'RE CHARGING FOR HAVING A RENTAL AT THE TIME ERIC DID A LOT OF THAT RESEARCH AND THERE'S MULTIPLE AIRPORTS IT'S A HODGEPODGE BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP. YOU KNOW, SOME GUYS ARE DOING IT ON THEIR OWN THE WAY THE TERM AGREEMENTS ARE WRITTEN. YEAH.

VERSUS THE COUNTY RUNNING THEM BUT THE GENERAL FEELING IS THAT THE FEES YOU'RE PROPOSING ARE COMPETITIVE. YEAH I WOULD SAY THE $500 A MONTH IS VERY IS VERY UNDER UNDERCHARGED. YEAH WE'RE LOOKING AT SIX 625 ON AVERAGE FOR A TI HANGAR ALONG THE SAME MARKETPLACES BEFORE EXECUTIVE WHICH WOULD BE ALONG THE COAST.

YEAH I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT BUT I'VE SORT OF SCOURED THROUGH ALL MY ESCAPADES OF WHAT OTHER AIRPORTS ARE DOING THESE NUMBERS ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE.

YEAH. OKAY THANK YOU. GO TO CHARLESTON EXECUTIVE AND SEE WHAT THEY YEAH YEAH LIKE I SAID THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 625 650 THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE UPWARDS OF THOUSAND 1500 DOLLARS SO YEAH VERY MOVE ON. YEP.

OPTION C AND THE FINAL OFFER OPTION OPTION C IN WAS AND THIS I'M JUST THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS I'M EXTREMELY HAPPY THAT WE HAD THE LEADERSHIP IN THE ROOM WOULD INVOLVE BASICALLY BORROWING EXCESS FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY ON ALONE WE ESTIMATED THAT THE AIRPORT WOULD NEED TO FINANCE USING THE ARPA SUBTRACTING THE ARPA FUNDS THAT WE HAVE SUBTRACTING THE 60% STATE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR A LOAN OF ROUGHLY $3.9 MILLION TO COVER THE REST THE COST TO BUILD THE BUILD THE THE HANGARS OVER AT THE AIRPORT AND WE WERE TOLD A DIFFERENT NUMBER SO WE INCREASED IT TO ESTIMATED 2.5% INTEREST RATE PAYBACK OVER THE PERIOD OF YOU KNOW WE COULD DO 20 YEARS, WE COULD DO 30 YEARS OR WHATEVER BUT WE NEEDED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT ON THE REVENUE PORTION IN THE BEGINNING THAT WE COULD PAY BACK THAT LOAN SERVICE, THAT DEBT SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AT A CERTAIN INTEREST RATE OVER A PERIOD

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YEAH GOT IT. AND I THINK I'M NOT A WIZARD ON THAT SIDE THE HOUSE BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THEY PORTRAYING TO US THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A BEAUFORT COUNTY ENTITY AND YOU'RE BORROWING ESSENTIALLY YOUR OWN MONEY YOU WOULD BE OFFERED YOU CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU CAN PAY THAT DEBT SERVICE BACK. THE INTEREST RATE WOULD BE EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE. WHAT IT IS I DON'T KNOW THEY GAVE US A FIGURE THAT I'D PROBABLY BE SO WE INCREASED IT TO BE CONSERVATIVE ON THE SLIDE SHOW AND SHOWED THAT EVEN IF IT INCREASED AT LEAST 2.5 WE COULD STILL PAY THAT DEBT SERVICE. OKAY.

SO LOOKING AT THAT, THE ONLY THING I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON STEVE I DON'T SEE IT IN THE BACK UP ON THE NOTES WHEN IT WAS IN YOUR SLIDE WHAT WERE WE FIGURING ON THE ANNUAL REVENUE ON ONE 187.87 WAS THE TOTAL INCOME ON A 3.9 GOING TO ONE OF YOUR FAVOR? SO OKAY I THINK SO IF IF OUR REVENUES ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE GARNERED US 187 3000 A YEAR, YOU'RE GOING TO DO 3000 TO THE PLUS. YEAH.

187,000 FOR THE YEAR THAT ANNUAL LOAN REPAYMENT ON AMATEUR ZATION 180 FOR A YEAR SO WE ARE ACTUALLY IN MORE REVENUE THAN WE'RE EASILY ABLE TO PAY THE DEBT SO YEAH YOU'RE AT 3000 YEAH AND I THINK I THINK OUR MONTHLY WAS I'D HAVE TO GO BACK YEAH I THOUGHT I THOUGHT IT WAS AROUND 187,000 ON THE MONTHLY ANNUALIZED WHICH 3000 ISN'T A LOT IS IN A TON OF DEBT SERVICE IS ABOUT 184 YEAH SO YEAH 3000 ON A SURPLUS NOT A LOT OF MARGIN NOT A LOT OF MARGIN BUT YEAH CONSERVATIVE ON THE RATES BUT IT'S ALSO BASED ON SIX NOW BASED ON TODAY AT 500 RIGHT YEAH GOVERNOR VERSUS NO UP EVER YEAH YEAH RATE WILL GO UP AND LET'S JUST SAY YOU COULD DO 625 YEAH THAT'S THE SAME THE SAME FIVE THAT CHANGES THAT BECAUSE THAT BRINGS IN ANOTHER $2,000 PER MONTH IT BRINGS IN ANOTHER 24,000 NOW YOU'RE SITTING AT 28,000 30,000 ON THE SLIDE AND AS YOU TALK TO THE TENANTS I MEAN YOU SEE THE TENANTS PERIODICALLY WE KNOW WE HAVE A WAITING LIST FOR HANG AT A.W. SORELY NEEDED FOR SURE AS ANYBODY EVER TALKED TO THEM VERY GENERALLY AND OFF THE RECORD ABOUT WHAT THEY'D BE WILLING TO PAY A HANGER I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I HAVE AND I'LL SPEAK FOR MY ANSWERS AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN SPEAK ON YOUR ANSWERS AND SEE IF THEY ALL MATCH UP.

WHAT IT WOULD COME DOWN TO IS PERSON AND THE PLAN BECAUSE JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE WE'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE HAVE A $30,000 CLIENT. WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE $1,000,000 PLAN. OBVIOUSLY THE PEOPLE WITH $1,000,000 AREN'T GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM WHETHER IT'S 500 OR 625 OR 650. NOW THAT OTHER GENTLEMAN MAY HAVE A PROBLEM BUT THE WAY WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT IN A WAY WE'RE PROBABLY WORKING IS NEWS HANGERS ARE GOING TO BE THE NICEST AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO FOR THE HIGHEST AND THE OLDER THE OLDER HANGERS ARE GOING TO STILL BE AT THE LOWER AND WE ARE LIMITED BASED ON WHAT WE CAN INCREASE IT EVERY YEAR BASED ON OUR BASED ON THE THE ORDINANCE I GUESS FOR FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM SO WE COULD NEVER GET UP. SO WHAT YOU MAY HAVE IS YOU MAY HAVE TENANTS WHO LITERALLY WON'T CAN'T AFFORD THE NEW HANGERS BUT AND MAYBE WE RUN THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST BUT ALSO TENANTS ON THE OTHER SIDE THE OLD HANGER GO MAN I'D RATHER BE IN A NICER I DON'T MIND SPEND ANY EXTRA MONEY I AND MOVE OVER AND THEN IT OPENS UP A SLOT FOR A LESS EXPENSIVE YOU'LL HAVE MULTIPLE TIERS RENTAL RATES BUT I BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL FILL ALL 20 UP WITH NEW NEW TENANTS IN MY OPINION I THINK AGAIN I THINK THERE'S NO ARGUMENT THAT WE NEED HANGERS OUT. YEAH BUT THE MARGIN THE $3,000 MARGIN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS BASED ON A VERY FAVORABLE EVEN A 2.5% INTEREST RATE I THINK REQUIRES ANOTHER LOOK WELL AT SIX BUT IF YOU CAN DO 650 I THINK YOU CAN GET 650 THERE IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO THAT 650 GENERATES ANOTHER OVER $2,000 A MONTH THAT $2,000 A MONTH TIMES IT MULTIPLY THAT

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I THINK YOU CAN DO MORE AND THAT'S MY OPINION NOW WHAT DO YOU LIKE? I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT IT IS STILL AN ASSET FOR THE AIRPORT EVEN IF YOU JUST BREAK FOR TEN OR 15 YEARS YOU STILL OWN IT. YOU KNOW AT SOME POINT AT SOME POINT IT'S PAID OFF. YOU'RE ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE DOING A GOOD $180,000 A YEAR.

YEAH. OR YOU'RE NOT EVEN WE'RE NOT EVEN COUNTING THAT MAYBE THE INCREASED FUEL CELL FOR PLANES BEING AT THE AIRPORT. RIGHT.

BUT THE OBJECT IS WAY TO MAKE MONEY YEAH PERHAPS IT HAS TO BE IT'S JUST IT HAS TO PAY ITS OWN WAY. WELL CORRECT BUT I'M JUST SAYING YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT ONE CAN YOU JUST AFFORDED HIM IF YOU DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY. YEAH BECAUSE ANYHOW TO PUT THE LAST PANTS RIGHT YOU HAVE AN ASSET AT THE END AND THEN ALONG WAY YOU START MAKING MONEY THE SAME WAY WITH STARTING A BUSINESS FROM SCRATCH BECAUSE THAT RATE GOING TO GO TO COVER THE DEBT SERVICE EARLY ON AS LONG AS YOU DO IT AND THEN EVENTUALLY EVERY LOOK BUT IT'S A PAPER ASSET THE ASSET IS NOT WORTH UNLESS THE COUNTY DECIDES TO SELL THE AIRPORT THAN THE ASSETS RIGHT. YEAH WELL IT BECOMES WORTH SOMETHING BECAUSE IT CAN BE RENTED SO THERE'S AN INCOME FLOW THAT'S OUT THERE. THE QUESTION IS THAT OUT OF THE GATE WHAT WHAT IS THE NUMBER I BELIEVE $650 A MONTH YOU CAN GET $650 A MONTH PERSONALLY MY OPINION DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I THINK WHAT I GETTING 20 UNITS I THINK 20 UNITS.

YES, YES. 100 100 UNITS. NO NINE GOT 860 I THINK IS 687 OR WAS IT FOUR FOR 860 IS FOR 80 SOMETHING OR 80 SOMETHING OR 85 BUT BUT BUT ONCE THEY GO UP 5% INCREMENTALLY ON A YEAH AND THEY'RE LIMITED ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN INCREASE THAT'S RIGHT HERE AND YOU GUYS HAVE A WAITING LIST AS WELL CORRECT. YES.

YES. I MEAN ALL ALONG THE SOUTHEAST YOU CAN RENT THEM FOR AS AS $150 A MONTH. I MEAN THIS BOISE AND THERE'S SOME NEW ONES THAT I JUST SIGNED UP. I RENT MINE THAT I BOUGHT AND ATLANTA I COULD RENT IT FOR $800 BUT I HAVE THREE THREE COMMENTS THAT I THINK MAKES THIS PROJECT NUMBER ONE THE COST OF MONEY HERE IS ASTRONOMICALLY IN OUR FAVOR. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET MONEY FROM, A BANK OR ANYPLACE ELSE. SO 10.5% THAT'S NUMBER ONE. SO THAT'S AN EASY DECISION TO MAKE BECAUSE IT'S CHEAP MONEY. SO THAT'S THAT'S A WINNER. NUMBER TWO, AS FAR AS THE MONTHLY RENT THERE IS SUCH A DEMAND FOR HANGERS WITHIN 100 MILES OF HERE THAT YOU I GUARANTEE YOU YOU WILL HAVE NO TROUBLE FILLING ALL 20 OF THOSE HANGERS IF YOU CHARGE $800 A MONTH. SO IF YOU START OFF WITH A FLOOR OF 600 OR 630 WHICH IS VERY CONSERVATIVE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO RAISE THAT RENT EVERY YEAR.

IS THAT MARGIN THAT YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT HOWARD ONLY FOR THE FIRST YEAR IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET MORE REVENUE IS WHEN YOU'RE GOING INTO THE NEXT YEAR EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A LIMIT OF HOW MUCH YOU CAN RAISE A.

THIRDLY, THE WHOLE THING BLOWS UP AS EVERYBODY SAID WHO DEFAULTS ON THE LOAN.

IT'S COUNTY PROPERTY AT THE FIRST BLOCK. YOU'RE NOT LOSING IN THE LONG RUN. THIS TO ME IS A NO BRAINER. YOU KNOW I WILL LIKE TO ADD TO REMEMBER THAT THESE NUMBERS WE WENT EXTREMELY CONCERNED IT OF MY INTENT WAS JUST TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WITH THE LOWEST POSSIBLE RENT NUMBER I COULD COVER THE DEBT SERVICE EVERYTHING ABOVE THAT AND EVEN WITH THE LOWEST POSSIBLE NUMBER WE'RE COVERING THE DEBT PLUS WE HAVE THE BIG HANGER AS THE OTHER ONE TOO BECAUSE THAT'S THAT LARGE 12 NINES, A 12 NIGHT AT ONE $300, RIGHT, RON INCLUDING SMALL PLANES THAT YOU GET LAST FOR ONE AIRPLANE AFTER 12 NIGHTS OUT OF THAT 30. YEAH. SO I AND AND HERE'S THE OTHER THING IF IT ISN'T CATCHING UP LET'S SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING THEIR NIGHTLY FEE THEY CAN ALSO TURN AROUND AND THEN RUN IT LONG TERM AND GO MONTHLY.

OKAY MONTH LONG TERM AND NIGHTLY. YEAH SAME TURN OFF AND THAT WOULD SUGGEST THIS BECAUSE AT THE MARGIN THE CURRENT MARGIN BASED THE VERY VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE THE PROJECT IS A GOOD PROJECT.

THE PROJECT IS A VERY NECESSARY PROJECT FOR THE AIRPORT BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE ANOTHER FINANCIAL PREPARATION WITH MORE REALISTIC NUMBERS IT MAKES IT EASIER EVERYBODY TO DIGEST THE 2.5% AS BRIAN SAID, YOU KNOW IT'S A MIRACLE NUMBER DOESN'T EXIST ON THE AT THE MOMENT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE GREAT NUMBER BUT. I THINK A MORE REALISTIC FINANCIAL PROJECTION I THINK IS BENEFICIAL. EVERYBODY I'LL TELL YOU 2.5 CENT IS A HIGHER INTEREST RATE THAN WHAT WE WERE TOLD. YEAH BECAUSE IT'S INTERNAL MONEY FROM THE CARRIERS THINK I'M JUST BASED OFF OF WHAT I WAS TOLD IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WHAT HE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR SO THE QUESTION IS AND LET'S ASK DAVID THIS TOO BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T ANSWER WHAT DO YOU THINK THE HANGER VALUE WOULD BE FOR THOSE HANGERS A

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RIGHT. SO THAT'S GOING TO BRING IN ANOTHER $3,000 A MONTH.

RIGHT. SO SO 3000 IS GOING TO BE $36,000 THAT'S GOING TO MOVE IT TO 40,000 RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I THINK WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO ASK US FOR IS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THIS IS ALL BASED ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL APPROVING.

THAT'S RIGHT. WHAT WE NEED WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS GOING TO BE A RECOMMENDATION FROM US FOR OPTION A, B OR C AND THEN TO GO TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND REQUEST IT. THIS IS ALL WHAT WAS SPOKEN IN THE MEETING OF IDEAS TO COME UP WITH FUNDS TO MAKE THE PROJECT AS BIG AND ENCOMPASSING AS POSSIBLE TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE OFF THE WAITING LIST AS POSSIBLE. IF YOU GO TO COUNTY WITH A $3,000 SPREAD BETWEEN REVENUE EXPENSES WELL WE'RE NOT THEY CAN CHANGE THAT NUMBER.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ASK. YES, YEAH THEY'LL CHANGE IT BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNTY COUNTS OR REALISTIC. YOU'RE GOING TO SELL IT TO THE COUNTY LOOKING FOR YOU GUYS FOR RECOMMENDATIONS AND YEAH A RECOMMENDATION I WOULD RECOMMEND SO I WILL YEAH I THINK THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN IN THE DISCUSSION I THINK WE WOULD ALL AGREE I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE MAKE IT AT 650 YOU HAVE THREE I'LL SAY WELL YOU CAN BE FOUR BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL FLYING WITH A PLANE.

OKAY SO MEAN DO YOU BELIEVE THAT 650 IS A PRETTY GOOD NUMBER COMPARED TO WHAT HAPPENS IN NEW 650 IS A STEAL. YEAH OKAY SO WE CAN THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY AS I WENT AROUND AND I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THE COAST WHAT THEY'RE PAYING AND I GET A LOT OF TOURISTS DOWN HERE AND THEY TELL ME OH MY HANGAR IS X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, THIS IS WHAT I PAY AND I WAS SET AT SIX 625 650 AND WE WENT DOWN TO FIVE. BUT I'VE ALSO HAD PEOPLE THAT I'VE PUT ON THE WAITLIST WHO SAID I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXTRA UP TO $1,000 A MONTH IF YOU CAN GET ME TO THE FRONT AND I'M YOU KNOW, THE THE MARKET THERE WE HAVE 68 PEOPLE ON OUR WAITING LIST AT THIS MOMENT. SO IF YOU WANT THE HANGER THE PERSON BELOW YOU IS GOING TO TAKE IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO GO AROUND. YEAH MY ONLY POINT IS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO FORWARD WITH A REASONABLE OF ASSUMPTIONS AND A REASONABLE FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS. I BELIEVE YOU GO TO THE COUNTY WITH THIS VERY PRELIMINARY FINANCIAL PROJECTION YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME PROBLEM WITH THE COUNTY GETTING YEAH YEAH SO WE CAN MAKE WE CAN THEY CAN MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT IN 650. I STILL THINK THAT COULD BE CONSERVATIVE I THINK WE ALL AGREE WITH THAT BUT 650 PUTS YOU IN THAT NUMBER WHERE YOU GO OKAY GUESS WHAT? NOW MADE YOU KNOW WE'RE WELL AHEAD ON IT THE OTHER AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THAT PROJECTION THE INCREASES THAT WOULD HAPPEN ON A ON A REGULAR BASIS THE INTERESTING THING IS AND WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO TALK TO LEGAL ABOUT IS WHAT ARE RULES FOR US ON THOSE HANGER LEASES VERSUS THE HANGAR LEASES WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND THE INCREASE WHAT WE CAN DO ON INCREASES IS THERE A MAX DOES IT GO BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE SET ALREADY LIKE THAT THEY HAVE TO STAY UNDER SAME TYPE OF INCREASE RULE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE HILTON HANGARS ARE DIFFERENT I THINK THEY TO BE CLOSE TO THE SAME YOU GOT TO HAVE THE SAME YOU'RE STARTING POINT A BELOW THE QUESTION I HAVE IS BECAUSE HEADS OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE THE PRICE THEY'RE UNDER THE SAME BUT BUT THE RATE HOW THE HANGAR TREATMENT ITSELF THE SAME THE HANGAR AGREEMENT ITSELF AND THE RULES ARE THE SAME ARE THE SAME JUST THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE EACH YEAR IS DIFFERENT.

NO NO I CAN MAKE A NEW BUILDING OR A NEW FACILITY OR WHATEVER I WANT TO MAKE IT.

I CAN'T FALL BACK ON THE AGE OF THE CURRENT HANGARS THAT I HAVE AND CHANGE THEM TO MEET A NEW FACILITY. YEAH BUT A NEW FACILITY I CAN MAKE WHATEVER I'M GOING TO SHOW THE INCREASE. YEAH WE CAN CHANGE THE RATE OF INCREASE IF WE WANTED TO GIVING A HIGHER ABILITY TO CHANGE THAT RATE IF SEE DEMAND IS THERE AND TO BE FAIR IN HOW OR TO YOUR POINT THE AIRPORT WOULD COME BACK TO THE AIRPORT BOARD AND THEN WE WOULD GO BACK TO CALHOUN COUNTY WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON PROPOSED RENT RATES FOR THESE NEW BUILDINGS.

ALL YOU NEED ALL I'M JUST WE WANT A BECAUSE ALL I'M ASKING RIGHT NOW FROM THE BOARD IS WHICH OPTION IS THE BETTER OPTION FOR THE AIRPORT TO GO IN FRONT OF COUNTY COUNCIL WITH THE INTEREST RATE THE HANGAR RATES ALL THAT STUFF WILL NEGOTIATED LATER I'M JUST DEMONSTRATED HOW EACH OPTION WOULD WORK SHOULD WE ADOPT OPTION C TO RECOMMEND THAT TO COUNTY COUNCIL I'LL SECOND OKAY BRIAN SECOND SINCE I WAS ALREADY LOOKING WAY THAT IS A VERY I HIGHLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT FOR SEEING BASED ON THE NUMBERS WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ONE IN THE REGULAR WAY ALL IN FAVOR RECOMMENDATION OF OPTION C TO GO FORWARD IN FRONT

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550 THING WHAT I'M HEARING SINCE YOU REMEMBER LET'S CUT THAT BACK TO 600 UNDER-PROMISE OVERDELIVER IT MY FAULT BECAUSE IT'S SO GOOD TO TALK ABOUT WELL BEYOND HOW IT'S CONCERNED WITH ONLY $3,000 BUT YEAH I'M JUST I'M JUST SAYING YOU KNOW LET'S GO IN LOW BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE WELL THEY'LL HEAR MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT IS ONCE YOU START GETTING IN FRONT OF COUNTY COUNCIL I HATE TO BUST EVERYONE'S AVAILABLE BUT THEY PROBABLY ARE MAYBE THREE PEOPLE LISTENING TO THIS AND TWO OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY ON THE MEETING.

AT THE MEETING WHEN IT GOES TO COUNTY COUNCIL THAT NUMBER OUT THERE ON A DIFFERENT NUMBER AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HEAR AND SAY HEY WAIT A MINUTE, WAS IT I WOULD I WOULD STICK WITH MY OPINION. YEAH THAT NUMBER IS I THINK THAT NUMBER IS IS VERY REASONABLE AND IT'S STILL ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE I THINK BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID OUR WAITING LIST IS 58 AND TWO OF TWO GUYS ON THE WAITING LIST SITTING RIGHT HERE AND THEY'RE WILLING TO 15 OR 1650 OR 68 ONE OR THE OTHER WHAT IS IT 68? THIS IS THE WAITING LIST 68.

68 AND IT'S IN THE SIXTIES. YES. WE GOT SOME DEMAND SO THAT'S WHY I SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE ONLY GOT TO FILL UP 20 AND AND IT COULD BE THAT NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE 68 POTENTIALS YOU ALSO OUT OF THAT HAVE ALL THE 2430 OTHER HANGER GUYS THAT ARE POTENTIALS TO MOVE OVER TO THE NEW HANGARS. SO THAT BECOMES A QUESTION TO MOVE OF THE OLD HANGARS AND BUILD THE NEW HANGARS AND WE THEN FILL THAT SLOT WITH A NEW RATE. THAT IS ANOTHER ISSUE THE AIRPORT WILL COME BACK FOR.

YEAH THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS HOW WE HOW WE DO THAT IN A FAIR YEAH WAY ARGUMENT. YEAH YEAH YEAH. SO WE'D TO GO AND SEE WHAT SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT BUT THAT'S THAT'S A BRIDGE WHICH FIRST GOT TO FIND OUT WE HAVE TO GET THE COUNTY TO APPROVE THIS AND IF IT'S WELL THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON TO THE NEXT ITEMS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE TOUGH DECISIONS THAT WE NEED TO BE READY FOR PHONE CALLS OR LEAST I WILL BE GETTING PHONE CALLS. EXCELLENT TIMING AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

NO PROBLEM. WE'RE DONE VOTING. WE HAVE A CHAIRMAN UPDATE I

[XI. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

AND THEN WE'VE GOT IMPROVEMENT TODAY BRIAN YOU GET ANYTHING, YOU REPORT KNOW JUST A QUICK THING BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW POPULAR HANGERS AND HOW POPULAR GENERAL AVIATION IS AND I'VE BEEN SCOURING AIRPORTS AROUND THE REGION AND EVERYBODY IS GROWING ON THE J WORLD YET OUR STATISTICS THAT ROCHELLE SENDS US EVERY MONTH ON OUR TOWER REPORT HERE AT HILTON HEAD AIRPORT HAS SHOWN CONSISTENTLY FROM 2022 INTO THE MIDDLE OF THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOSING OPERATIONS HERE.

WE WERE AT A TOTAL OF OPERATIONS 29,000 BACK IN 2022 THAT WENT DOWN TO 25,000 LAST YEAR AND WE'RE ONLY 11,000 HALFWAY THROUGH THIS YEAR IF THAT TREND CONTINUES WE ARE LOSING THE GENERAL AVIATION MARKET. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THE COMMITTEE FOR SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HILTON HEAD THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FOCUS ON THE NEW TERMINAL AND THE COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS.

THERE IS A TOTAL OF 41,000 OPERATIONS WELL TOTAL OPERATIONS PER YEAR HERE AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE IGNORED. WHY ARE WE NOT GROWING? DO WE HAVE A IN PLACE TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THE AIRPORT DOES GROW OR WE DON'T WANT TO? THAT'S A DECISION? I THINK MOVING FORWARD WE HAVE TO MAKE I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT SO YOU KNOW IN MY BUSINESS BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED IN COVID WITH VOTES I TRY TO GO BACK AND I TRY NOT TO REALLY LOOK AT MY COVID NUMBERS. I TRY TO LOOK AT 2019 WHICH WAS MY LAST YEAR WITHOUT COVID.

WHERE WERE WE? WHAT WERE THE OPERATIONS NUMBER IN 2019? AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE THAT BUT WE CAN ASK FOR THAT TO BE PULLED.

LOOK AT 2019 AND SEE HOW WE TRACK THAT BOTH AIRPORTS. YEAH, AT BOTH AIRPORTS.

AND THEN THE SECOND THING QUESTION I WOULD IS WHAT IS AND THE ONLY ONE WHO PUMPS AVIATION

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WELL IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU BREAK IT DOWN BECAUSE WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT AIR TAXI OPERATIONS IN THE AIRPORT THEY'VE ACTUALLY GONE UP A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY. SO WE'RE TALKING JUST THE CHIEF OPERATIONS AS ARE DEFINED BY THE TOWER. WHAT I'M FOCUSING ON THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO MASSAGE THESE NUMBERS BUT THE TOTAL NUMBERS ACROSS THE BOARD ARE DECREASING.

DO YOU THINK DO YOU THINK THAT MAY BE THE OTHER THING COULD BE BECAUSE YOU'RE SEEING THAT AND GOING DOWN TO THAT ALSO BE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE I DON'T SEE OUR NUMBERS AT RW GOING UP SIGNIFICANTLY OTHER THAN AT THE BEGINNING WHEN WE CHANGE FUEL PRICES AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE CORRELATED WHERE WE'RE TAKING AWAY AIR OPERATIONS ARE COMING INTO BEAUFORT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T GOING INTO HILTON HEAD FOR BUT THEY MAY HAVE THEY MAY HAVE GONE IN THERE AND NOW THEY CHANGE GOING INTO BEAUFORT DOING IT AND THEN GETTING FUEL AS WELL.

BUT OUR AIR OPERATIONS HAVEN'T BEEN ANY SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER WHEN I LOOKED AT IT SO THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTION IS WHERE YEAH I DON'T THAT WOULD BE A GIVEN BUT LET'S LOOK AT 2019 BECAUSE IT MAY BE ALL COVID GENERATED AND. YEAH ALL I WANTED TO DO IS BRING THIS UP AS AN OBSERVATION WHERE WHAT WE DO ABOUT OR EVEN DISSECT IT FURTHER IS FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION. OKAY, WE'LL GET THOSE NUMBERS BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THEM ALL RIGHT. COMING TO THE END OF THE COMMITTEE REPORT WE HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZEN COMMENT ANY NO ALL GOOD OC COULD I GET A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT SO WE GOT THESE TWO LEFT AND RIGHT ADJOURNED. THANK YOU

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.