Jun 24, 2024 Public Facilities and Safety Committee

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GOOD

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

WELCOME TO PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SAFETY COMMITTEE.

I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

WILL YOU STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS? ONE NATION UNDERGROUND, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE BARONE.

ALL RIGHTY.

PUBLIC NOTIFICATION.

THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, AND WE DO ALSO HAVE A QUORUM.

I SEE WE ARE MISSING TWO, OR I'M SORRY, THREE INDIVIDUALS TODAY, BUT WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM TODAY, CORRECT? SARAH? YES.

AWESOME.

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

APPROVE THAT MOTION FOR THAT.

THAT'S THE MOTION BY MS. BROWN.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND MY DAVID.

DON'T BE SO EXCITED EVERYONE.

IT'S ONLY MONDAY.

COME ON NOW.

UM, ANY OBJECTION FOR THE APPROVAL? NO.

AND THIS WILL BE DONE WITH NO

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - May 28, 2024]

MOVE ON TO NUMBER FIVE, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM MAY 28TH, 2024.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MS. HOWARD.

I'LL SECOND IT AND TAB IT THE SECOND IN THE OBJECTION.

AND THIS WILL ALSO BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION.

[6. CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD- 15 MINUTES TOTAL]

I DO NOT HAVE ANY SLIPS.

WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTED TO MAKE ANY CITIZENS' COMMENTS THAT DID NOT SIGN UP? ALL RIGHT, WE WILL CLOSE THE CITIZEN'S COMMENT

[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT]

JARED, YOU'RE UP A MINUTE AFTER THE MEETING STARTS.

WELL, LET'S DO IT.

OH, WE'RE GONNA SWAP IT OUT.

YEAH, SWAP IT OUT.

LET'S DO IT.

NO WORRY FOR THE, UH, COUNTY ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

HI, HOW ARE YOU? DOING WELL.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON OUR CIP DEPARTMENT.

AS WE KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME TURNOVER HERE IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW I'M THE PERSON STEPPING INTO THE DIRECTOR ROLE FOR AN INTERIM PERIOD, BUT I'M NOT THE ONE THAT GETS THE JOB DONE.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO INVITE THE PROJECT MANAGERS HERE.

AND FRED IS NOT HERE 'CAUSE HE IS ACTUALLY RUNNING BACK FROM A PROJECT, BUT I WANTED TO HAVE THEM STAND UP 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DO THE WORK.

WE GET UP HERE AND MAKE REPORTS, WE GET UP HERE AND, AND WE CAN MAKE A PLAN.

BUT IF YOU GUYS, THIS IS ROBERT ZE AND MARK SUTTON AND THEY REALLY, I, I'VE SEEN AND THERE'S, UH, AND FRED MARILLO IS NOT HERE, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF HIS PROJECTS IN A SECOND.

ONE PERSON THAT IS MISSING, SHE'S AT A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT, BUT SHE'S KIND OF THE GLUE THAT HOLDS EVERYBODY TOGETHER.

SHE DOES ALL THE NUMBERS, SHE DOES ALL THE PLANNING.

SHE MAKES SURE THAT WE KEEP ALL THE CONTRACTORS INSURED AND IN CONTRACT AND WITHIN THE LINES.

AND THAT'S CAROLYN WALLACE.

SO, UH, I'LL, I'LL INTRODUCE HER IN A FUTURE, IN A FUTURE MEETING.

BUT THESE GUYS DO A GREAT JOB.

I'VE PERSONALLY WITNESSED HER IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS KINDA OVERSEEING THE DEPARTMENT BEFORE THE TRANSITION AND NOW HANDS ON IN THE DEPARTMENT AND I'LL, I'LL UPDATE YOU ON SOME OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS.

IF YOU SAW THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS, WHICH YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN ON THE CIP LIST, IT CAN BE VERY OVERWHELMING.

AND SO WE HAVE WEEKLY MEETINGS WHERE THEY GO THROUGH THESE PROJECTS AND THE ONES I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY ARE THE MOST HIGH PROFILE UNDER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

SO I, I THINK THESE GUYS, AND IT'S BEEN IMPRESSIVE TO WATCH 'EM WORK HERE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

THANK GENTLEMEN.

WHAT DEPARTMENT ARE THEY WITH? CAPITAL PROJECTS.

CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

CAPITAL PROJECTS.

THANK YOU.

AND THEY ALSO WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, FACILITIES, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

SO WE'VE JUST HIRED A, A NEW, UH, PERSON TO RUN THAT DEPARTMENT NAMED FRANK STR CHECK.

AND THEY'VE, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A STRONG LINE BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS AND THEY CAN REACH OVER AND HELP EACH OTHER.

AND THAT'S BEEN A, A GOAL OF MINE FOR A WHILE.

SO WE CAN LEFT HAND CAN HELP THE RIGHT HAND AND VICE VERSA.

SO MOST HIGH PROFILE, WE'VE BEEN DOING WEEKLY REPORTS AND THIS WEEK WE'RE DOING DAILY REPORTS IS A SPANISH MOSS TRAIL AND I CAN REPORT AFTER.

WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S ALRIGHT.

HEY, THERE'S FRED MERLO.

HE WAS ON A JOB, BUT, UH, HE'S BEEN HANDLING THAT SPANISH MOSS TRAIL PROJECT AND HE AND, UH, O QUINN MARINE CONSTRUCTION HAVE BEEN WORKING HAND IN HAND.

AND I WENT DOWN THERE FRIDAY JUST TO PUT MY OWN EYEBALLS ON IT, JUST SO IF I TOLD YOU SOMETHING, I KNOW FOR SURE THAT I'M TELLING THE TRUTH.

AND TODAY THEY'RE PUTTING IN HANDRAILS AND WE HAVE BEEN PUSHED TO GET OPEN BY 4TH OF JULY WEEK.

AND I TALKED TO DUNCAN TO GET APPROVAL TO SAY THIS IS THAT WE FEEL WE, IT'S GONNA BE OPEN BY MONDAY, JULY 1ST.

OH, GOOD.

NICE.

UH, MAYBE EARLIER, BUT WE, WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT TROPICAL DEPRESSION AND RAIN AND HOLDUPS.

SO TODAY THEY'RE PUTTING IN HANDRAILS AND TENSION CABLES AND IT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE.

IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GREAT LOOKING PROJECT OUT THERE.

SO HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK YOU CAN CHECK IT OUT.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, A LOT OF DISCUSSION OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS ABOUT COMMUNITY CENTERS, ARPA COMMUNITY CENTERS.

WE ARE GOING OUT FOR BID ON ALL THREE PROJECTS HERE IN THE COMING WEEKS.

UM, AGAIN, WORKING WITH ALL THREE OF THESE GUYS ON WHAT KIND OF PLANS WE'RE GONNA DO A DESIGN BUILD.

THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA DO THE SAME THING WITH THE BATHROOMS ON DUSKY.

WE ARE GONNA HAVE

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SO WE KNOW THERE HAS BEEN MONEY DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, AS MR. LAWSON SAID LAST WEEK, WE KNOW IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN THAT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CHASE UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.

SO WE NEED TO GET THERE.

WHAT WERE THE THREE LOCATIONS FOR THOSE CENTERS AGAIN? ONE IS IN SHELDON, ONE IS ON ST.

HELENA AND ONE IS ON DUSKY.

BOTH.

ALL THREE PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED WITHIN PARKS.

MR. JOE? YES, SIR.

UH, QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THOSE PLANS AND DESIGNS.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT, THAT WE CAN JUST PAY FOR A UNIVERSAL DESIGN FOR COMMUNITY CENTERS AND BATHROOMS? WE DID DO A BASE FLOOR PLAN OF WHAT THE NEEDS WERE.

WE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY IN SHELDON AT LEAST ONE TIME.

AND I THINK, UH, MR. DAWSON HAS MET MULTIPLE TIMES.

IT'S A BASIC BUILDING AND UH, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK ONLINE WITH THE PEOPLE AT DUSKY ALLEN AND WE SAID WE'LL HAVE COMMUNITY DISCUSSION, BUT THE, IT'S A VERY BASIC 2000 SQUARE FOOT, LARGE MAIN ROOM DIVIDABLE BY MOVING WALLS.

SOME OFFICES THAT CAN BE USED AS EXAM ROOMS AND OFFICES CONVERTIBLE.

MM-HMM .

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I TOLD 'EM WE CAN HAVE A PUBLIC CHARETTE PROCESS IF YOU WANT, BUT THERE'S NOT MANY ITEMS TO PICK OFF THE LIST .

SO WE HAVE HAD SOMEBODY DRAW A BASE BUILDING SO THAT WE PUT THAT OUT FOR THE DESIGN BUILD PROCESS.

UM, THE OBVIOUS ONE IS THAT THE OLD ARTHUR HORN IS FINALLY GONE.

AND SO, UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS GOOD TO COME BACK AFTER A WEEKEND AND SEE STRAW ON THE GROUND INSTEAD OF THE WORRIED ABOUT WHO, WHO'S GONNA GET THE LAST FIBER OPTIC LINE OUT OF THERE.

UH, AND THAT NEW, THE NEW, UH, PARKING LOT IS OUT FOR BID AS WE SPEAK.

OKAY.

CHARLES LYNN BROWN CENTER HAS BEEN A GROUP EFFORT BETWEEN PROJECT MANAGERS AND PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THAT CONTINUES TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THERE'S STILL THINGS ON THE LE ON THE LIST AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A GOOD PRO, A GOOD EVENT THERE THIS PAST SATURDAY.

UH, SOUTH SIDE PICKLEBALL.

WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON A LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT FOR A LONG TIME THAT IS IN HAND.

THEY HAD A PRE A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING THIS MORNING.

ROBERT WAS THERE AND WE, THEY'RE GONNA START CONSTRUCTION THIS WEEK.

OKAY.

UH, CRYSTAL LAKE AND WHITEHALL ARE CLOSE TO THE SAME PRO, UH, UH, STATUS.

UH, CRYSTAL LAKE HAS BEEN BID AND AWARDED AND JUST WAITING THE CONTRACTOR SCHEDULE IN JULY.

UH, WHITEHALL PHASE TWO IS WAITING ON A DOCK PERMIT AND THAT ALSO HAS BEEN BID AND AWARDED AND THEY'LL BE READY TO GO AS SOON AS THAT COMES IN.

CAMP ST.

MARY'S HAS BEEN BID NOT AWARDED.

IT'S TECHNICALLY UNDER THE THRESHOLD OF DOLLARS THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR COULD APPROVE, BUT OUR, OUR DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN THAT IT HAS TO GO TO COMMITTEE IN AUGUST BECAUSE WE'RE DEMOLISHING COUNTY BUILDINGS.

SO THAT'LL COME FORWARD IN AUGUST.

UH, OAT T RIVER PARK HAS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS CURRENTLY.

THERE'S A MEETING TOMORROW THAT'S BEEN BID AND AWARDED, BUT THEY'RE MEETING, UH, WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND WITH PASSIVE PARKS AND OUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE TO SOLIDIFY THE ACCESS AND WHAT, I MEAN, ACCESS IS NOT HOW YOU GET THERE, BUT, UH, IT'S ONE THING FOR ONE OF US TO DRIVE OUR CAR ON A GRAVEL ROAD AND IT'S ANOTHER THING FOR CONCRETE TRUCKS.

SO THEY'RE JUST GONNA NAIL DOWN THIS LAST COUPLE DETAILS TOMORROW AND THEN THAT WILL BEGIN.

THAT IS MY REPORT.

AWESOME.

YES MA'AM.

SURE.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE OUR INFORMATION OFFICER RELEASE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING? THEY'RE NOT WATCHING THIS MEETING, SO, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT , BUT, BUT I PRACTICED.

THEY KNOW CERTAIN THINGS ARE IN DESIGN, SOME THINGS ARE BID, SO ON.

YEAH.

IS THERE A WAY WE CAN JUST GET SURE, I'LL GET A SUMMARY SYN DRAWN UP.

I'LL TALK TO HANNAH ABOUT GETTING A, GETTING A SUMMARY OF PROJECTS TOGETHER JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

WE GREAT INFORMATION TO PUT OUT.

YEAH.

AND ALSO YOU COULD TELL 'EM TO WATCH THE TAPE IF YOU WANT, BUT WHATEVER, JUST SO THEY CAN HEAR YOU TELL THEM THEY'RE NOT WATCHING IT.

YEAH.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

UM, GOING BACK TO SPANISH MA TRAIL.

YES MA'AM.

SO REALLY ONE JULY YOU THINK? DID YOU, DID I HEAR THAT RIGHT? OH YEAH.

I WAS OUT, I WENT THERE ON FRIDAY.

OKAY.

AND I SAW PICTURES LIVE TODAY.

FRED WAS THERE TODAY.

MM-HMM.

THEY HAVE PUT IN THE BRACKETS, THEY'VE MOUNTED THE POSTS.

OKAY.

THEY'RE MOVING DIRT AROUND TYING TENSION CABLES.

GREAT.

THERE WILL STILL BE PART OF THE PROJECT THAT WILL BE ONGOING.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

BUT BICYCLE.

SO THIS IS TO OPEN THE PATHWAY.

THE BICYCLES CAN GO SAFE.

OKAY.

AND SECURE BENCHES IN NEW AREAS IN, BUT THE PIER THAT WILL BE ON THE WATER SIDE IS, WILL BE BLOCKED OFF BY A RAILING AND CABLES.

BUT THEY CAN DO THAT WORK FROM THE BARGE AND LEAVE THE PATH OPEN.

THAT'S WONDERFUL NEWS.

THAT'S A LOT QUICKER THAN I THOUGHT.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE? I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND IT WASN'T ON YOUR LIST.

I DON'T, UNLESS I MISSED IT.

GO FOR IT.

THE BROAD RIVER FISHING PIER, IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THAT? I KNOW THAT'S A PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT STANDS.

JARED.

NOT REALLY.

THAT ONE.

WE'RE WORKING ON A SCOPE TO BRING BACK, UM, TO COMMITTEE I GUESS IN AUGUST.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALONG WITH, UH, WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE, WENDY? RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR AGENDA ITEMS THEN.

[8. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ACCEPT AN INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING GRANT FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA RURAL INFRASTRUCTURE AUTHORITY (RIA) FOR THE ALLJOY COMMUNITY ($187,500.00) - Jared Fralix, P.E., Assistant County Administrator – Infrastructure]

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UH, I BELIEVE THIS IS JARED AS WELL, CORRECT? YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A UM, BROWN TOUR TODAY, SO WE'RE OKAY.

ALL THE PROJECT MANAGERS ARE GONNA BE SPEAKING TO US.

NOT A PROBLEM.

HEY KAY.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

I'M EXCITED TO BE BEFORE Y'ALL TODAY TO ASK PERMISSION FOR MR. ROBINSON TO ACCEPT THESE GRANT AWARDS THROUGH THE RURAL INFRASTRUCTURE AUTHORITY.

UM, SINCE THE BIPARTISAN PART, BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW CAME INTO PLACE, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF FUNDING NOW BEING ALLOCATED TO TOWARDS STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT FOR MY PROGRAM.

HELPS US CUT COSTS ON OUR BUDGET.

AND SO RECENTLY THE RURAL INFRASTRUCTURE AUTHORITY ALLOW HAS ALLOWED FOR PROJECTS TO BE SUBMITTED, UM, FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT.

SO WE TOOK THIS OPPORTUNITY IN EARLY MARCH TO APPLY FOR $250,000 TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE DRAINAGE STUDY IN THE ALL JOY COMMUNITY.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A FRAME OF REFERENCE, IT'S SOUTH OF ULMER, EAST OF BURNT CHURCH AND NORTH OF UM, MYRTLE ISLAND AREA.

SO ROUGHLY 475 ACRES OR JUST UNDER ONE SQUARE MILE WORTH OF A COMMUNITY.

THIS AREA IS COMPRISED OF STATE ROADS, PRIVATE ROADS, AS WELL AS COUNTY ROADS, COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY AND COUNTY DRAINAGE EASEMENTS.

AND SO THIS PROJECT AIMS TO GET A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT ALL INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH PLANNING ON REPAIRS ACROSS ALL JURISDICTIONS, STATE, COUNTY, PRIVATE.

THE, WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN RECEIVING THESE FUNDS.

THERE'S A 75 20 5% MATCH FOR BOTH PARTIES.

SO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY STORMWATER UTILITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR $62,500 IN RELATION TO THIS GRANT AWARD.

THIS HAS BEEN ALLOCATED IN OUR FY 25 BUDGET.

AND SO AGAIN, WE'RE HERE TO ASK PERMISSION TO ACCEPT THESE GRANT AWARD.

THIS GRANT AWARD.

ALRIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOTION? I'LL MAKE A SECOND.

MS. HOWARD THE SECOND.

THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? UM, YOU SAID THE FUNDS WERE ALREADY ALLOCATED IN THE, THE APPROVED BUDGET? MM-HMM.

FOR THE 62,500, IT'S ACTUALLY WE ALLOCATED FOR THE FULL AMOUNT.

OKAY.

UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE COVER IT FOR THROUGH FINANCE AND PROCUREMENT.

SO WE ONLY NEED TO USE 62,500 OF THAT WITHIN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET.

PERFECT.

ANY OBJECTION? I SEE NO OBJECTION.

THIS WILL BE MOVED FORWARD WITH NO OBJECTION.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, HAS ANYBODY COMMUNICATED WITH THE ALL JOY RESIDENT ABOUT THIS STUDY? THIS THEY ARE AWARE OF THE STUDY.

WE HAVE ALSO PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION TO THE STORMWATER UTILITY BOARD.

THEY'RE FULLY AWARE AS OF LAST WEDNESDAY THAT WE WERE IN ACCEPTANCE, BUT WE HAD TO MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE PROPER, UM, PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS.

AND THEN EARLY NEXT MONTH WE'LL BE HOSTING A STORMWATER PUBLIC MEETING AND THE MORE INFORMATION WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENTS AT THAT TIME.

AND THAT'LL BE JULY 10TH.

SO JULY 10TH? YES.

AS LONG AS THAT WORKS FOR ALL THE MOVING PARTS.

YEAH, DEFINITELY FOR MORE.

I'LL CONFIRM THAT WITH HIM.

BUT IT'S JULY 10TH.

THAT'S THE ONLY DAY.

'CAUSE HE'S GONNA BE VACATION AFTERWARDS.

PERFECT.

AND THEY WANTED IT DONE AT ASA, SO YES.

AND KATIE, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

YOU WELCOME.

FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

THANK YOU ALRIGHTYY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

[9. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO PURSUE CONDEMNATION ON PARCEL R200 011 000 0007 0000 ASSOCIATED WITH County Council Agenda – Beaufort County, SC SHEPPARD ROAD, CAUSEY WAY AND DOCK BUILDERS DRIVE ON LADY’S ISLAND (FISCAL IMPACT: $10,000 & associated legal fees for condemnation funded by 1000-30-1301-51160) - Jared Fralix, P.E., Assistant County Administrator, Infrastructure]

AUTHORIZED AN INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO PURSUE CONDEMNATION ON PARCEL PARTIAL R 200 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 4 ZEROS ASSOCIATED WITH SHEPHERD ROAD CAUSEWAY AND DOCK BUILDERS DRIVE ON LADIES ISLAND.

ALL RIGHT.

I TOLD A SMALL FIB, 'CAUSE I AM PRESENTING THIS ONE.

SO THIS IS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH SHEPHERD, UM, LANE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT NEAR MOSSI OAKS.

SO THIS IS A SEPARATE ROAD.

THIS IS OFF OF HOLLY HALL UP IN NORTHERN LADIES ISLAND.

AND SO IF YOU, YOU CAN SEE THE ROUNDABOUT THERE AT SAND'S POINT AND HOLLY HALL.

SO JUST TO THE RIGHT YOU TAKE A RIGHT AND THEN UP HERE, RIGHT THERE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THEN IF YOU CAN ZOOM INTO THE OTHER MAP THAT'S PART OF THIS.

SO THE BACKGROUND IN ON THIS IS IN THE LATE NINETIES, UM, A GENTLEMAN, MR. O'QUINN DUNCAN O'QUINN, HE OWNED THE PROPERTY AND DEED IT TO THE, THE COUNTY THE PROPER WAY WITH OUR DIRT ROAD ACCEPTANCE.

UM, AND THIS, FOR WHATEVER REASON BACK THEN IN THE NINETIES, UH, THE, WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS BUT IT DID NOT GET FINALLY RECORDED.

UM, SO WE HAD THE DEED IN HAND AND IT JUST NEVER GOT RECORDED.

AND NO ONE EVER RECOGNIZED THAT SINCE THEN.

UM,

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AND THEN IN 2019, I BELIEVE, UM, HE RECOGNIZED THAT, HEY, WHY AM I PAYING TAXES ON THIS? I ALREADY DEED IT OVER TO THE COUNTY.

I'M STOPPED PAYING TAXES ON THIS.

SO, UH, AGAIN, THE DEED WASN'T RE REGISTERED, SO IT STILL LOOKED LIKE IT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THUS WENT TO THE DELINQUENT TAX OFFICE AND THEN WENT TO A TAX SALE.

UM, DURING THE TAX SALE, IT WAS PURCHASED BY MR. MIDDLETON, DONALD MIDDLETON, UH, FOR $1,600.

AND AGAIN, THE TAXES WERE $117 AND IT GOT SOLD FOR A HUNDRED OR $1,600 IN 2022.

THEN MR. MIDDLETON APPROACHED THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND SAID, HEY, I'VE GOT THIS PROPERTY, UH, Y'ALL NEED TO BUY IT FROM ME.

AND BASICALLY CAME WITH WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS A LOTTERY TICKET AND WAS LOOKING TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ON A SHORT TURNAROUND, ON A DELINQUENT TAX SALE.

AND SO, UM, THERE WAS BACK AND FORTH COMMUNICATION AND AS YOU SAW IN THE BEGINNING, AND SO THIS PARCEL IS ALL THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHT THERE.

SO IT'S THE ENTRANCE INTO THIS SUBDIVISION.

AND THERE WAS THREATS AS FAR AS PUTTING UP FENCING AND BLOCKING ACCESS TO THE OTHERS THAT THIS IS A PRIVATE ROAD THAT HE OWNS IT NOW.

UM, SO WE HAD COMMUNICATIONS ON HOW TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY AND NEVER CAME TO TERMS WITH THAT.

WE SAID, HEY, WE NEED TO DO AN APPRAISAL ON THIS.

SO WE DID AN APPRAISAL AND IT CAME BACK ABOUT $10,000 AND THAT WAS OFFERED TO MIDDLE MR. MIDDLETON WITH NO AVAIL.

SO HE IS FULLY AWARE OF THIS PROCESS, UM, AGAIN, STILL HANGING ON TO THE HOPE THAT HE GOT A LOTTERY TICKET AT A TAX SALE AND IS LOOKING FOR MORE INCOME THAN THIS.

UM, BUT DUE TO THE NATURE, THE OTHER ROADS IN THE SUBDIVISION ARE COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADS, UM, OF A LEGACY STATUS, BUT COUNTY MAINTAINED.

AND SO WE ARE SEEKING PERMISSION TO PURSUE CONDEMNATION, UM, WITH THAT $10,000 FIGURE TO PUT IN ESCROW TO MOVE THIS BACK INTO COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY WITH A CLEAR TITLE.

SO THAT IS, THAT IS THE ACTION HERE AND THE RESOLUTION ATTACHED ACCOMP IN THE REQUEST.

ALRIGHTYY, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN UP DISCUSSION? ABSOLUTE.

OH, WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M ACTUALLY, I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS.

UM, JUST SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION.

UH, I JUST WANNA ACCUSE MYSELF, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU FOR THE HEADS UP.

MR. GLOVER.

YOU WANTED TO MAKE THE MOTION? I DO.

ALRIGHT.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

I'LL SECOND IT TOO IF YOU NEED TO.

YOU CAN'T MAKE IT SNAP WITH A SECOND.

ALL, ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YEAH.

WHAT'S IT COST TO DO THIS? TO GO FOR CONDEMNATION? WHAT'S IT COST US? SO IT'S THE 10 WE HAVE TO PUT THE MONEY IN ESCROW AND THEN ASSOCIATED LEGAL FEES.

SO, UM, A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THIS CASE AND BRITTANY COULD PROBABLY GET A BETTER ESTIMATE AND WE HAVE TO PAY THE LEGAL FEES.

YEAH, WE DON'T RECOUP 'EM.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

SO IT'S MORE THAN $10,000? IT YEAH, IT'S, IT WOULD, SO THE RESOLUTION IS FOR, OR THE REQUEST IS 10,000 AND ASSOCIATED LEGAL FEES TO GO WITH IT.

OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

MM-HMM.

AND ATTEMPTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY AND COMMUNICATION ALONG THE WAY? THAT'S CORRECT.

YEP.

AND THIS IS NOT, AGAIN, WE'VE COORDINATED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.

THIS IS NOT OUT OF LEFT FIELD.

WE TOLD 'EM OUR PROCESS AND HOW WE COULD PAY APPRAISED VALUE.

OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO OFFER.

RIGHT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS, UM, GERALD, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS BECAUSE, NOT, NOT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF.

UM, I MEAN, WE'LL GO BACK AND, AND TRY TO AUDIT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

THIS IS, SO A LOT OF OUR ROADS, UH, THAT WE DON'T HAVE CLEAR TITLE ARE OF THE LEGACY STATUS.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY CLEAR TITLE TO THOSE.

AND, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

THAT'S WHAT PATTY DOES REGULARLY, IS TRY TO, UM, AHEAD OF OUR DIRT ROAD PAVING PROGRAM, START WORKING ON ACQUIRING THOSE RIGHT OF WAYS.

AND SO THIS ONE WAS JUST A ODDITY? IT WAS, IT WAS OUT THERE AND FOR SOME REASON IT HAD GOT TURNED OVER BUT WITH A DEED BUT NEVER RECORDED.

SO IT WASN'T, WE DON'T EXPECT FIND ANY MORE.

BUT, UH, PATTY CONTINUES TO SEEK THESE OUT AND WORK ON THE DIRT ROADS THAT WE DO HAVE.

AND WHY WASN'T, UM, WHEN HE CAME BEFORE US, WHY WASN'T IT TAKEN CARE OF THEN? IN 97 WHENEVER HE DID? YEAH, IT WAS 25 YEARS.

WHAT IS THAT? 27? IT WAS ANOTHER OWNER AS WELL, 27 YEARS AGO.

27.

THAT WAS ANOTHER OWNER AS WELL, CORRECT? YEAH.

SO I MEAN, IT

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AND THEN IT, HE WAS CONTINUING TO PAY THE $117 A YEAR ON PROPERTY TAXES UNTIL HE RECOGNIZED IT IN 2019 AND JUST STOPPED.

YEAH.

BUT HE CAME TO US IN 2019 TO PUT IT ON OUR BOOKS OR WHAT? I, I DON'T KNOW.

UH, THE ONLY THING I CAN ASSUME IS THAT HE RECOGNIZED THAT IT WAS A PARCEL OF LAND THAT HE NO LONGER OWNED OR AT LEAST HE THOUGHT HE DIDN'T.

AND SO HE SAID, WHY AM I PAYING FOR THIS AND DISCONTINUED PAYING THE TAXES? AND, UM, YEAH, THAT'S SO SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED WE COULD HAVE RESOLVED IN 19 NOW IS 24.

YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, ACTION FROM THE PAST.

YEAH.

THANK YOU SIR.

YES SIR.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU.

WHAT DOES MR. MILTON WANT FOR THE PROPERTY? I BELIEVE HIS INITIAL ASK WAS AROUND $80,000.

80,000? YEAH.

HAVE YOU TRIED TO NEGOTIATE WITH HIM JUST TO GET IT CLEARED UP? YES.

YES.

TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

AND THEN AGAIN, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T OFFER AN ARBITRARY NUMBER.

WE HAVE TO BASE IT OFF APPRAISAL VALUE.

UM, ONCE WE DID THE APPRAISAL AND WE, AFTER WE DID THE APPRAISAL, HE WASN'T SATISFIED WITH THE APPRAISAL THAT WE HAD AND WE SAID, WE'LL GET YOUR OWN APPRAISAL.

AND HE HAS REFUSED TO GET AN APPRAISAL.

UM, SO THAT WE COULD, WE COULD WORK BETWEEN THE TWO APPRAISALS, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT SUCCESS IN THAT INTERACTION.

THANKS, JUDGE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE NEED TO HAVE A ROLL CALL? CAN THIS BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION.

MINUS ONE RECUSAL.

ALRIGHT.

AND THIS MOTION PASSES WITH ONE RECUSAL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU JARED.

[10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT FAA BIL AIRPORT TERMINAL PROGRAM GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,000,000 FOR HXD TERMINAL IMPROVEMENTS - CONTINGENT UPON FINAL FAA OFFER (FISCAL IMPACT: The BIL ATP program provides 95% of the project funding ($5,000,000) of the funding, and airport operations will fund 5% $263,158 - Grant Expenditures - GL Code 5402-90-0000-57130)]

ALL RIGHT.

YOU BELIEVE JOHN, HOW YOU DOING, BUDDY? I'M DOING WELL, THANK YOU.

GOOD.

UM, I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

THIS IS GETTING IN PREPARATION FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

THIS, THIS IS BASICALLY GETTING YOUR ACCEPTANCE AHEAD OF TIME, KNOWING THAT YOU'RE GOING INTO KIND OF THE SUMMER RECESS AND WE ANTICIPATE SOME OF THESE GRANTS BEING OFFERED AND AWARDED, UH, WHILE YOU'RE OUT.

AND A COUPLE OF THESE PROJECTS, WE'VE GOT THREE OF THEM ON THE LIST HERE.

UM, WE, WE NEED TO GET MOVING AND WE HAVE CONTRACTORS READY TO GO.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THESE IN FRONT OF YOU.

UM, BEFORE THE RECESS AND THE, ON ALL THESE, THE FA CONDITIONS, THE SPONSOR ASSURANCES ARE THE SAME ONES THAT WE WOULD AGREE TO TO EACH ONE OF THE, THE GRANTS.

SO THERE'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, CHANGE TO BE ANTICIPATED HERE.

IT'S STANDARD GRANT LANGUAGE.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOTION? SO MOTION.

AND THE SECOND, I'LL SECOND DAVID WITH THE SECOND.

AND THIS WILL COST, UM, THE AIRPORT FUNDING 5%.

THE OTHER 95 WOULD BE DONE BY THE GRANT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS FIRST ONE, WHEN WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE BEGINNING THIS? HOPEFULLY NOT DURING TOURIST SEASON.

WE ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY WITH THAT PROJECT.

SO THIS WILL ADD TO THE PROJECT? YES, IT'S A TWO YEAR, THIS PHASE OF THAT TERMINAL IS A TWO YEAR PROJECT, SO YOU CAN'T AVOID THE TOUR SEASON, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S BEEN, UM, THUS FAR THE, UM, WE'RE RIGHT IN THE THROES OF THE BUSIEST PART OF THE SEASON.

AND, AND KNOCK ON WOOD, IT, IT IS REALLY BEEN PRETTY LOW STRESS SO FAR.

THIS PHASE OF THE PROJECT IS MOSTLY THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, SO IT'S NOT IN THE EXISTING TERMINAL.

THERE'S SOME DISRUPTIONS WITH THE DRIVE LANES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT BEEN TOO HARD TO MANAGE.

CAN THIS BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION? YES.

AND I SEE NO OBJECTION.

NUMBER 10.

PASSES

[11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT FAA GRANT FUNDING FOR THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT (HXD) TAXIWAY F REHABILITATION PROJECT- CONTINGENT UPON FINAL FAA OFFER]

AND THIS ONE LOOKS LIKE A 90 10 SPLIT BETWEEN THE GRANT AND US.

IT IS.

ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND IT.

ALRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. RAMBO.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, IT SAID THERE'S ONLY ONE BID FROM APAC.

WHAT HAPPENED THAT WE ONLY END UP ONE BID.

WE'RE HIGHLY SENSITIVE TO ONE BID ANYMORE.

THAT IS NOT UNCOMMON WITH, UH, PAVING PROJECTS.

AND IT'S EVEN LESS UNCOMMON WITH AIRFIELD PAVING PROJECTS.

IT'S SPECIALIZED, UM, ASPHALT MIXES THAT WE'VE PUT DOWN ON THE AIRFIELD.

AND IN THE PAST WE, IT IS VERY NORMAL FOR US TO RECEIVE JUST THE ONE.

WE'VE GOT ANOTHER PROJECT OUT FORBID RIGHT NOW IT BEAUFORT EXECUTIVES.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO SEE SOME MULTIPLES.

WE HAD

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SO WE COULDN'T GET ANYONE ELSE TO BID ON THIS OTHER THAN APEC 'CAUSE APEC DOES A LOT OF WORK WITH US.

THEY DO.

AND, AND WE DO.

AND WE BID THESE PROJECTS IN THIS BID LAST YEAR.

SO WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON SOME THINGS TO HAPPEN.

UH, THE CONTRACT'S ALREADY BEEN AWARDED APAC, BUT UM, WE DO NOTIFY OTHER COMPANIES WHEN THE BIDS GO OUT.

WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY GOES OUT.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OBJECTION? I THINK MR. CHAIR, DID I MAKE A COMMENT? SO, UM, TAB, I I HAVE ONE OTHER, OR MS. TABER, NICK, I HAVE ONE OTHER JUST COMMENT.

SO ON ASPHALT SPECIFICALLY, THERE ARE TWO ASPHALT PLANTS THAT ARE IN PROXIMITY TO BEAUFORT COUNTY.

UM, SO LANE AND APAC ARE, ARE RAY AND NOT LANE.

BLYTHE.

BLYTHE, SORRY.

THEY CHANGED NAME ABOUT THREE TIMES.

UM, AND SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE ONLY TWO BIDDERS THAT YOU HAVE ON AN ASPHALT PROJECT OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE IN THE AREA.

UM, SO JUST TO ANSWER SPECIFIC, AND THEN ON THE AIRFIELD, AS JOHN SAID, IS A, IS A SPECIALIZED MIX.

UM, ONE OTHER THING, AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, FAA PROJECTS AND I MEANT TO COME UP HERE AT THE BEGINNING, UM, JUST ON THE PROCESS, WE'RE GETTING THESE PRE-APPROVED.

UM, BUT THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER GRANTS THAT WE COME BECAUSE A LOT OF OTHER GRANTS, WE, WE WRITE UP THE APPLICATION, WE DON'T HAVE THE BID YET, AND THEN WE GET THE GRANT AND THEN WE GO OUT AND START THE DESIGN AND START THE CONSTRUCTION.

WHERE THESE FAA GRANTS ARE DIFFERENT IN THE FACT THAT WE, UM, WE GO THROUGH THE BID PROCESS AND THEN, SO FAA DOESN'T AWARD THE BID UNTIL YOU HAVE A FINE TUNED NUMBER.

SO THEY, JOHN AND THE FAA, THE, THE DISTRICT OFFICE IN ATLANTA, THEY WORK ON THE PROJECT FOR A WHILE BEFORE IT GETS TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

SO THEY, UH, THEIR FIVE YEAR CR OR YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS, THEIR CIP PLAN IS COORDINATED.

SO FAA KNOWS HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE OVER THE NEXT YEARS TO ALLOCATE AND HOW MUCH THEY THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE FOR, FOR OUR AIRPORTS.

AND THEN SO WE PUT THAT OUT THE BID AND THEN WE GET THE FINAL NUMBER AND THEN THAT'S WHEN THEY GRANT.

SO THEY DON'T GRANT AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT.

THEY, THEY GRANT THE EXACT NUMBER AND THEN SPECIFICALLY FAA KUDOS TO TO THEM.

BUT, UH, PROBABLY THE MOST EFFICIENT FEDERAL AGENCY THERE IS, EVERYTHING'S ELECTRONIC.

SO ONCE IT'S FINALIZED, THEN IT COMES STRAIGHT TO OUR LEGAL AND OUR ADMINISTRATOR FOR, FOR SIGNATURE, UM, ELECTRONICALLY.

AND THE WHOLE PROCESS FROM FROM FAA TO US IS A PERIOD OF DAYS, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, THE REASON FOR US TO BRING THESE TO YOU IN ADVANCE AHEAD OF THESE, UM, OFF MONTH OF JULY AND, AND AUGUST.

SO I WAS AWARE THERE'S ONLY TWO COME TO, UH, ASPHALT 'CAUSE WE HAVE THIS ISSUE IN SUN CITY.

I JUST WONDERED WHY THE OTHER ONE DIDN'T BID.

SO LANE OR BLYTHE.

UM, SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T BID.

THEY HAVE FILL ON OTHER PROJECTS.

UH, AND THE SAME THING WITH APAC.

IT'S, IT'S WHAT THEY HAVE IN THE HOPPER AND, AND WE JUST, SOMETIMES WE GET TWO BIDS AND SOMETIMES WE GET ONE.

AND THAT'S A NOT JUST A COUNTY THING, THAT'S A DOT LOCAL IN CHARLESTON, THERE'S MORE ASPHALT PLANTS.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, IN SAVANNAH THERE'S MORE ASPHALT PLANTS, BUT REGIONALLY WHERE WE ARE LOCATED, THERE'S ONLY THE TWO.

AND NOT ALL THE TIME DID THEY BOTH BID.

SO SORRY.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHTY.

CAN THIS BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION.

ALRIGHT.

A NEED SEE NO OBJECTION ON THAT ONE.

EITHER.

REMOVED

[12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT FAA GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $137,209 FOR HXD AIRFIELD DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS – DESIGN AND BIDDING CONTINGENT UPON FINAL FAA OFFER]

SO MOVED.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? NOT SECOND.

AND THAT IS SECOND.

AND THIS IS ALSO A 90 10.

YES.

FOR US AS WELL.

UM, THIS IS GONNA COST US A LITTLE OVER 15,000 AND THE REST WILL BE FUNDED BY THE GRANT.

DO I SEE ANY OBJECTION? AND THERE IS NO OBJECTION.

THIS ONE.

WE'LL ALSO MOVE ON.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK, THANK JOHN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT,

[13. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO AWARD CONSOR ENGINEERS, LLC THE DESIGN CONTRACT FOR PAUKIE ISLAND CAUSEWAY CULVERT REPLACEMENT ]

GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, SO POCKY ISLAND DRIVE IN THE GRAYS HILL, GRAYS HILL AREA IS A SINGLE INGRESS EGRESS ONTO POCKE ISLAND WHERE THERE'S 50 OR SO HOMES BACK THERE.

UM, THE CAUSEWAY HAD SOME DISTRESS TWO ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WHERE THE CULVERT UNDER THE ROADS HIGHLY INFLUENCED WAS HAVING SOME ISSUE.

SO THERE WERE REPAIRS DONE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO EARLIER ON THIS YEAR.

NOTICE OTHER REPAIRS ARE COMING BACK.

SO IT'S BEEN PUBLIC WORKS HAS PLATED IT.

THIS IS A DESIGN CONTRACT FOR CONS UNDER OUR ON CALL TO COME UP WITH A LONG TERM PERMANENT REPAIR FOR THAT, UH, ISSUE.

SO THEIR

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UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR A 15% CONTINGENCY FOR A TOTAL OF $187,002 AND 48 CENTS THAT'LL COME OUT OF OUR TAG PROFESSIONAL, UH, SERVICES FEES FUND.

SO I'LL SECOND, I THINK COUNCILMAN DAWSON MADE, DAWSON MADE THE MOTION THIS SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

DO WE KNOW THE TIMEFRAME ON THIS? WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, THEIR PROPOSAL TAKES THE TIMEFRAME OUT TO MARCH.

THAT'S UH, PROBABLY WORST CASE.

THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PRETTY IN DEPTH PERMITTING WITH THIS.

UM, NOT JUST LOCAL STATE.

IS THAT JUST FOR DESIGN OR COMPLETION? UH, JUST FOR DESIGN.

DESIGN.

UM, SO THE PERMITTING'S GONNA BE THE BIG FACTOR ON IT, BUT MARCH IS KIND OF HOPEFULLY THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.

SO, OKAY.

YES SIR.

OH, JUST YOU, YEAH.

I'M SORRY.

, WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? UM, IT IS NORTH OF THE AIR STATION IN GRAYS HILL.

UM, AT THE END OF, UH, PERRY.

CLEAR.

IT'S RIGHT THE END, RIGHT AT THE END OF THE RUNWAY.

THE DOOR.

YEAH.

IT'S RIGHT AT THE END OF THE RUNWAY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE AIR STATION.

YEAH.

SO IS THE CAUSEWAY ONCE YOU PASS AN ENDPOINT? YEAH.

YOU KEEP GOING STRAIGHT AND THEN YEAH.

WHERE UH, I THINK IT'S BRUCE K SMALLS ACTUALLY TURNS INTO PERRY.

CLEAR.

YOU GO RIGHT PERRY.

CLEAR.

YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT.

THAT'S POCKY.

UM, SO THE CAUSEWAY'S RIGHT THERE AS YOU GO ONTO POCKY, SO, OKAY.

OKAY.

I, UM, GERALD ACTUALLY BEEN THERE ONCE, MAN, I THOUGHT I WAS LOST, BUT I WAS THERE.

THE WATER NEED REPAIR.

YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PROJECT TO UM, GET IT 'CAUSE IT TIME.

SO HOW DO YOU, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? HALF IT.

HALF AND HALF OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE UP FOR THE DESIGNERS TO COME UP WITH.

BUT THE COUNTY DID A SIMILAR PROJECT AFTER HURRICANE MATTHEW ON LAYS ISLAND AND THEY HAD TO DO A SINGLE LANE DIVERSION AROUND IT TO BE ABLE TO REPAIR IT.

'CAUSE THE GOAL IS TO REPLACE IT WITH A, A CONCRETE BOX CULVERT INSTEAD OF THE CON.

OUR, OUR METAL PIPES ARE THERE NOW, SO IT'S MORE RESILIENT AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS AGAIN.

SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES MA'AM.

SO WHAT I FOUND INTERESTING ON, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS WE'RE GONNA REDO THE ROAD.

OKAY? MM-HMM.

FINE.

AND SO TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT JUST MEANS, HEY, JUST PUT SOME MORE PAVEMENT ON IT, GET ON WITH IT, RIGHT? MM-HMM, .

SO YOU LOOK AT PAGE 83 IN OUR PACKET.

I HAVE NO IDEA THE DEPTH OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE.

MM-HMM.

, THIS IS VERY INFORMATIVE.

PAGE 83, 84.

I MEAN, IT JUST IS STUNNING HOW MUCH NO WONDER IT TAKES TILL MARCH, 2025.

YEAH, IT'S, I GET IT.

IT'S GONNA BE A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT.

I MEAN IT'S PROBABLY ALMOST ONE OF THE WORST CONDITIONS YOU CAN GET.

IT'S UH, I BELIEVE DUAL DUAL 48 METAL PIPES RIGHT NOW WITH SEVEN TO EIGHT FOOT OF TIDAL FLOW WITH SEVEN FOOT OF FILL ON TOP OF THAT.

SO IT'S ABOUT WORST CASE.

SO SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

UM, I'M ASSUMING WE'LL HAVE MORE NUMBERS OF WHAT IT'LL COST TO DO THE PROJECT AFTER THE DESIGN PROCESS.

YES.

WE'LL HAVE A BETTER COST ESTIMATE FOR CONSTRUCTION, UM, ONCE THEY START GETTING INTO DESIGN AND LOOKING AT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO ENTAIL.

SO.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THIS BE APPROVED WITH? NO OBJECTION AND I SEE NO OBJECTION.

AWESOME.

[14. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A SIGNAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND SCDOT]

OKAY.

SO ALL THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND SCHOOL FLASHERS IN THE COUNTY, IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE COUNTY OWNS, ARE MAINTAINED BY EITHER CITY OF BEAUFORT, UH, THE TOWN OF HILL AND HEAD OR COUNTY.

SO WE HAVE A LIST OF 43 TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND SEVEN SCHOOL FLASHERS THAT ARE OWNED BY DOT, BUT MAINTAINED BY BUFORT COUNTY UNDER A SIGNAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.

UM, THIS RUNS IN THREE YEAR CYCLES AND IT'S THEN UPDATED ANNUALLY WHEN NEW SIGNALS ARE ADDED.

SO THIS IS EVERY THREE YEAR, UH, REFER OUR UPDATE.

UM, SO THIS IS PAID ON A REIMBURSEMENT.

UM, WE HAVE A RATE THAT'S NEGOTIATED FOR INDIVIDUAL SIGNALS AND THEN ANY PARTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS REIMBURSEMENT, UM, WITH UP TO 197,000 REIMBURSABLE PER YEAR UNDER THAT, UH, SIGNAL AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.

SO THIS COMES EVERY YEAR FOR UPDATE.

ALRIGHT.

AND THIS IS, SO WE'RE PAYING IT UP AND THEY'RE JUST REIMBURSING US EVERY YEAR? YES.

FOR THE AMOUNT UP TO THAT? YES.

ALRIGHT.

DO WE HAVE RECOMMENDATION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND IT AND A SECOND, BUT MR. GLOVER, ANY DISCUSSION? CAN I JUST ASK ONE? OH, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.

WELL, JUST QUICKLY, UM, THIS, THIS IS ALSO DEALING WITH THE, UM, THE, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL AS WELL AS THE TIMING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

YES.

UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY MAINTENANCE.

I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH LADIES ISLAND AT WALGREENS.

I MENTIONED IT BEFORE, LADIES ISLAND AND WALGREENS, BUT WALGREENS IS OKAY.

WHERE THEY BUILT THE HARRIS TEETER.

OKAY.

HARRIS TEETER, I THINK HARRIS TEETER.

YEAH.

UM, THAT, THAT SIGNAL

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OH.

WHY DON'T Y'ALL GET CONTROL OF IT? SO I CAN TALK TO YOU OUT.

THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING IS THAT, SO WHO DO WE GO TO OR CAN YOU GO THERE FOR US? THAT WOULD BE NATE FARROW, THE CITY'S PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

AND WE HAVE, UH, PUSH COMPLAINTS, OR NOT COMPLAINTS, BUT QUESTIONS TO HIM ABOUT THAT SIGNAL.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE REVIEWING IT AND LOOKING AT THE TIMING.

THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.

YES.

THEY ARE GONNA CHECK IT.

SO, OKAY.

GERALD'S OVER HERE DOING SOME PERSONAL BUSINESS .

MR. CHAIRMAN.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANKS.

MY QUESTION IS THE SAME AS YORKS MM-HMM.

, UM, HILTON HAD, I'M HEARING COMPLAINTS ALMOST WEEKLY.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THEY'RE OUTTA SYNC.

ALL THE LIGHTS, ARE THEY ALL SYNCED UP WITH THE SCHOOLS? I KNOW THERE'S, WELL, HILTON HAD A SPECIAL, SO HILTON HEAD, UM, THEY RECENTLY INSTALLED THEIR ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

YES, SIR.

AND SO THEY DON'T SYNCHRONIZE LIKE NORMAL SIGNALS ANYMORE.

SO THEY'RE, AND WHAT THEY DON'T HAVE YET ON HILTON HEAD, AT LEAST TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IS THE FIBER CONNECTIVITY.

SO RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE NEW TECHNOLOGY, NEW SOFTWARE ON OLD HARDWARE.

AND SO THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE NEW SOFTWARE SIGNAL BY SIGNAL, BUT THEY'RE NOT COORDINATED.

UM, AND SYNCHRONIZED IN, IN A CORRIDOR FASHION.

HOW MUCH ARE YOU COORDINATED WITH 'EM THOUGH? SO WE, SO THEIR SYSTEM, UM, WE USED IMPACT FEES, UH, AND WE ASSISTED $3.1 MILLION TO HELP THEM INSTALL THEIR NETWORK FROM THERE.

THEY OWN MAINTAIN IT, OPERATE IT, UM, COMPLETELY.

SO WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THE DAY TO DAY.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE AND ALL THE OPERATIONS TO SEE HOW THEY'RE FUNCTIONING.

SO IF THEY'RE THERE IS A SIGNAL, THE ONLY SIGNAL THAT WE MAINTAIN OVER THERE IS WINDMILL HARBOR.

AND SO THAT, THAT ONE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S ON OUR SMA.

AND SO, UM, BUT THAT ONE'S, THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE AS WELL AS COORDINATE WITH THE TOWN.

NOT TOO MUCH, BUT YEAH.

WOULD YOU HELP ME OUT WITH THAT? THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLAINTS.

WOULD YOU GET BACK WITH MARK OR ALAN AND JUST TRY TO COORDINATE? YOU'VE BEEN DOWN THERE WITH ME, I'VE SEEN MEETINGS DOWN THERE, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF OUT SYNC THERE AND THERE.

PEOPLE ARE GOING NUTTY WITH THIS.

YOU DON'T WANNA KNOW WHAT MY DISTRICT SAID ABOUT THAT LADY? I CAN IMAGINE.

SO, SO HELP, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE FULLY AWARE OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY JUST INSTALLED AND THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH OKAY.

THE ISSUES AND UH, AND I CAN DEFINITELY TOUCH BASE WITH THEM WHEN I SEE 'EM.

THEIR, THEIR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS JIM ? ? NO.

OR, UM, IWIN, I CAN'T SAY HIS LAST NAME.

II IWI NIKKI.

IT'S POLICE WHAT MR. BAUER, WHATEVER YOU CAN DO TO HELP THEM OUT, THAT'D BE WONDERFUL.

THANKS SIR.

JARED, I HAVE A QUESTION.

IS THAT, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S OLD SOFTWARE WITH NEW SOFTWARE AND IT'S NOT IN SYNC YET? THAT WHAT I'M NEW SOFTWARE AND OLD HARDWARE, SO THEY'RE OH, OLD HARDWARE.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S SIGNALS PUT THAT IN.

YEAH, THERE'S STOP YOU FOR COUNTING, CORRECT? RIGHT.

WE OKAY, OLD.

SO IT'S NEW SOFTWARE, BUT OLD HARDWARE.

YEAH.

THINK OF IT USING THE OLD COMPUTER AND TRYING TO RUN A NEW SOFTWARE PROGRAM ON AN OLD COMPUTER.

OH, ALL RIGHT.

WELL AND WHEN WILL THAT BE STRAIGHTENED OUT OR IN SYNC? IT'S UP TO THEM.

THAT'S UP TO HILTON HEAD.

THAT'S THE COUNT OF HILTON HEAD.

YEAH, THEY OPERATE SO ADDITIONALLY, SO THIS IS, SO THIS ISN'T REIMBURSABLE.

SO WE'RE ALLOWED TO, ON OUR SIGNALS, UH, INSTALL AND MAINTAIN AND TIMINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

YEAH.

BUT THEY HAVE DOT HAS A QUALIFIED PRODUCTS LIST AND ANYTHING THAT WE DO HAS TO BE THERE.

THIS IS PROPRIETARY TECHNOLOGY.

SO THEY, DOT IS NOT REIMBURSING FOR THEIR IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT THEY HAVE A CAPITAL PRIDE CIP PLAN.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT, BUT THAT'S A HILTON HEAD CONCERN.

MR. PAUL, ARE YOU DONE? I HAVE ONE FOLLOW.

YEAH.

OH YEAH, I'M DONE.

WOULD IT HAVE MADE SENSE THAT YOU COORDINATED WITH THEM BEFORE THEY GOT THIS NEW OH, WE COORDINATED WITH THEM.

IS SIR, YOU TRYING TO TELL ME THAT THEY'RE NOT COOPERATIVE IS NO, I'M SAYING THEY, THEY WERE READY SET TO INSTALL THEIR SOFTWARE.

ALRIGHT.

WELL WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THE DECISION WAS MADE BY HILTON HEAD, NOT BY BUFORT COUNTY.

OKAY.

WE JUST ASSISTED THEM IN HELPING THEM.

SO QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ARE TO BE ANSWERED AND FIXED BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.

UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION THERE? OKAY.

UH, WHAT'S EXACTLY, UH, THE NEW SIGNAL THAT'S AT OLDFIELD, DOES THAT COME UNDER THIS MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT? YEAH, IT'LL BE MAINTAINED BY THE, BY THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

UH, WHEN IS THAT LIGHT PROJECTED TO COME ONLINE? HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS OR NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, COUPLE WEEKS.

UM, THE HOLIDAY ON THE FOURTH IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, COULD IMPACT THAT CAN'T FLASH IT.