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[1. CALL TO ORDER]
SERVICES AND LAND USE COMMITTEE MEETING, PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FROG, THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE BEING HERE TODAY.
WE HAVE ONE MEMBER WHO IS ON ONLINE THAT IS, UH, YORK GLOVER, OUR VICE CHAIRMAN.
AND UH, SO WE, WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO CALL THE ROLE AS LONG AS WE HAVE A QUORUM.
[3. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT]
NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.THE AGENDA IS APPROVED AT THIS TIME.
WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE FOR, UM, CITIZEN COMMENT.
I'M TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF EVERYTHING.
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES- May 13, 2024]
UH, I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES.UH, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, PLEASE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
THE MINUTES FROM MAY 13TH ARE APPROVED.
[6. CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD- 15 MINUTES TOTAL]
CITIZEN COMMENTS AND I WILL READ 'EM IN THE ORDER THEY WERE RECEIVED.SIMILAR IF HE'LL COME FORWARD AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
5 9 6 3 PLEASANT FARM DRIVE, BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA 2 9 9 0 6.
I'M HERE TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU, UH, MS. CHAIRWOMAN AND TO STEPHANIE NAJI FOR THE HELP ON FRIENDS OF WHITEHALL AND THE AGREEMENT THAT'LL BE GOING FORWARD TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL.
HOPEFULLY A LOT OF HARD WORK WAS DONE THERE AND JUST AS THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM, THE COUNTY COUNCIL HAS FRIENDS PROGRAM IS ALSO JUST AS IMPORTANT AND SHOULD BE NURTURED JUST AS MUCH AS THE VOLUNTEERS ARE.
AND, UM, FOR THOSE WHO MAY REMEMBER, UM, HE WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TOO IN ANOTHER, ANOTHER LIFE.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT MS. NAGT AND YOUR GROUP DID TO GET WHERE WE'RE AT WITH WHITE HALL.
NEXT, UH, IS KAREN RADFORD AND IF SHE'LL COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I HAVE TWO PROPERTIES CURRENTLY IN, UH, BEAUFORD.
ONE IS IN PICKET FENCES, FIVE BRADFORD COURT.
UH, THE OTHER IS MY FATHER'S PROPERTY AT 32 EUSTIS LANDING.
AND THAT IS ON LADIES ISLAND IN BEAUFORT AS WELL.
HE PASSED IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
UM, AND WHAT I WAS GONNA COMMENT ON, AND I WAS NOT SURE HOW THIS AGENDA WENT TODAY, BUT WAS ON THE ZONING, UH, NUMBER 10 UNDER THE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, I THOUGHT I WOULD BE SPEAKING AFTER THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT A NICE QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD IT IS THERE.
UM, I THINK ALL THE NEIGHBORS THERE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE AND THE INFLUENCE OF A BUSINESS COMING IN THERE AND WHAT IT WOULD DO TO THE PROPERTY VALUES.
SO AGAIN, I THOUGHT I WOULD BE SPEAKING AFTER THAT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE AND WE WOULD HATE TO LOSE THAT GREEN SPACE.
OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY AT THIS TIME.
WE HAVE, UH, MR. GERALD DAWSON JOINED US TOO.
HE IS REMOTE LIKE MR. LIKE COUNCILMAN GLOVER AND COUNCILMAN DAWSON ARE REMOTE TODAY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT LAST MINUTE? SEEING NONE? UH, WE WILL GO ON TO NUMBER EIGHT.
IT IS A, OH, I'M SORRY MS. AUDRA, COME ON.
[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT]
ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AUDRA ANAS OGDEN TODAY.[00:05:01]
UH, MR. CHUCK IS OUT OF TOWN.GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
JUST A FEW THINGS I WANTED TO PASS DOWN IN THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION, JUST A REMINDER FROM THE BOARD, BOARD OF VOTER REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY THAT TOMORROW JUNE 11TH IS THE STATEWIDE PRIMARY.
UH, THE POLLING LOCATIONS WILL OPEN 7:00 AM AND CLOSE AT 7:00 PM UM, VOTERS CAN FIND THEIR POLLING LOCATIONS ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE UNDER VOTER REGISTRATION.
SO WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GET OUT AND VOTE, UM, FROM THE ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE DEPARTMENT.
THIS YEAR MARKS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, WITH THAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO REBRAND THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, THIS ISN'T AN EFFORT TO REDUCE THE STIGMA OF SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS.
SO THE STAFF THE LAST FEW MONTHS HAS BEEN WORKING ON REBRANDING THE DEPARTMENT.
SO HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BEFORE COMMITTEE AND PROVIDE YOU WITH THE NEW DEPARTMENT NAME.
AND IN THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT, THE COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS OPEN TODAY, AND THAT WILL RUN THROUGH AUGUST 9TH.
AND THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR NONPROFITS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY THAT ARE A 5 0 1 C3 TO APPLY FOR THE GRANTS THAT COUNTY COUNCIL GRACIOUSLY HAS APPROVED AND ORS EVERY YEAR.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON HER REPORT OR COMMENTS? UM, I'D, I'D LIKE TO ASK, UM, I UNDERSTAND A FEW OF THE POLLING PLACES CHANGED FOR THIS ELECTION AND WE'LL, PROBABLY DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, WE'LL PROBABLY BE THOSE SAME ONES IN THE FALL.
UM, ONE WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT SERVE SHALL POINT.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY DIFFERENT VOTING PLACES CHANGED? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CHANGED.
BUT ANY VOTER CAN GO ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT IS CURRENT AND UP TO DATE.
AND THEY CAN LOOK AT IT ON THE VOTER REGISTRATION WEBPAGE.
SOME DID POLLING LOCATIONS DID CHANGE.
PROB AND THAT'S A GOOD REMINDER FOR EVERYBODY TO CHECK.
THEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A NOTICE IN THE MAIL TOO.
YES, THEY DID SEND THOSE OUT AND I'M SURE IT WAS DONE TO ANTICIPATION OF THE LARGE TURNOUT, PROBABLY LATER IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
THAT'S GOOD THAT PEOPLE, UM, CAN GET USED TO GOING TO THAT NEW POLLING PLACE NOW.
AND, UM, THE APPLICATIONS FOR HUMAN SERVICES, ARE THEY ONLINE TOO? THEY ARE.
IT CAN ALL BE DONE ONLINE AND THEY HAVE TO BE A 5 0 1 C3.
ORGANIZATION THAT IS ONE OF THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I HAVE ONE.
UH, I PUT POLITICAL SIGNS DOWN BY THE USCB AND THEY CALLED AND SAID YOU CAN'T PUT 'EM HERE.
THERE ARE STATE REGULATIONS IN REGARDS TO RIGHT.
BUT IT WAS NOWHERE NEAR, IT WAS A, IT WAS DOWN THE STREET, BUT THEY'RE SAYING IT WAS 500 FEET AND THE POLLING PLACE WAS LIKE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PARKING LOT.
IT COULD BE THAT THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD, I KNOW WITH UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY, THERE ARE SIGN REGULATIONS, SO IT COULD BE IN, BEEN IN VIOLATION OF THEIR SIGN REGULATIONS.
BUT A NICE LADY CALLED AND SAID, COME GET YOUR SIGNS.
BUT, UM, LIKE, UH, A POLLING PLACE, UM, LET'S JUST TAKE, UH, UH, MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL.
I CAN'T PUT 'EM IN FRONT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT THERE, BUT CAN YOU PROBABLY EVEN PUT 'EM DOWN THE STREET? MAYBE A BLOCK OR SO? I WASN'T CLEAR ON THAT.
YEAH, YOU'D HAVE TO CHECK EVERY, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR UNINCORPORATED BUFORD COUNTY, BUT THE MUNICIPALITIES, THEIR, UM, ORDINANCES ARE DIFFERENT.
UM, SO I WOULD DEFINITELY CHECK WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES, SEE WHAT THEIR SIGN REGULATIONS ARE.
MAY RIVER, IS THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY OR IS THAT TOWN OF BUFFALO? I BELIEVE THAT IS IN THE TOWN OF BLUFF.
I, I'M JUST TAKING THESE SAMPLES.
THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT'S EVER HAPPENED.
'CAUSE I KNOW WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UM, WELL, MARK LAWSON WAS A, HE TAUGHT ME THAT.
JUST PUT ALL THE SIGNS UP, BUT ALONG THE SIDEWALK, BUT THEN I DOWN AND TYPICALLY POLITICAL SIGNS OR ACTUALLY NO SIGN IS ALLOWED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, CDOT AND THE RIGHT OF WAY IS QUESTIONABLE.
SO I WOULD DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO THAT JURISDICTION AND FIND OUT WHAT THE REGULATION ARE.
OH, JUST GO BY THE POLLING AND ASK THEM IF WHERE I COULD PUT 'EM.
NO, I WOULD REACH OUT, NOT THE POLLING LOCATION.
I WOULD REACH OUT TO, UM, THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY.
WHETHER IT'S THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON OR THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD OR UNINCORPORATED BUFORT COUNTY.
THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THE REGULATIONS FOR SIGNAGE IN THAT AREA.
UM, COUNCILMAN GLOVER OR COUNCILMAN DAWSON? DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR AUDRA? NO, MADAM CHAIR.
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I'M GOOD.[8. DISCUSSION CONCERNING A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR BEAUFORT JASPER HOUSING TRUST ]
CAN GO TO NUMBER EIGHT.UM, THIS IS A DISCUSSION REGARDING A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE BEAUFORT JASPER HOUSING TRUST.
THIS IS FOR INFORMATION AND, UM, IF YOU'LL INTRODUCE YOURSELF, MR. HICKS.
MY ADDRESS IS 2300 PRESERVE WEST IN PORT ROYAL.
I'M HERE TODAY IN MY, AS MY CAPACITY IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BEAUFORT JA JASPER HOUSING TRUST.
AND IN PARTICULAR, WE ARE ASKING FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR AN APPLICATION THAT WE ARE SUBMITTING TO THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR HOME REPAIR FUND.
UH, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW WHO SAW OUR PRESS RELEASE LAST WEEK, UH, WE AWARDED $984,000 TO VARIOUS ENTITIES HERE, UM, BEAUFORT AND JASPER COUNTY.
ONE OF THE IDEAS, OR ONE OF THE ENTITIES, UH, THAT WE WANTED TO FUND WAS HOME REPAIR.
THERE IS A $20 MILLION FUND IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA THAT HAS NOT BEEN USED VERY WELL, AND NONE OF THOSE FUNDS HAVE COME HERE.
UH, WE HAVE TO DO A RATHER SUBSTANTIVE APPLICATION.
UH, THAT APPLICATION REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
SO I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU, UH, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER A LETTER OF SUPPORT, WE'LL ACTUALLY DRAFT IT FOR YOU, UH, AND SEND IT FOR ITS REVIEW HERE, UH, BY YOUR COUNSEL.
UH, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS CAN MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE, EVEN THOUGH WE HANDED OUT A LOT OF DOLLARS LAST WEEK, UH, THERE THE NEED IS STAGGERING AND WE WANT TO TRY AND ADDRESS THAT NEED.
WE WANT TO TRY AND BE, UH, A RECIPIENT OF PART OF THAT $20 MILLION FUND.
OKAY? MM-HMM,
ANY QUESTIONS, MADAM CHAIRMAN? UM, THIS IS Y'ALL.
CAN I SPEAK RIGHT QUICKLY? YES, SIR.
UM, WE'VE BEEN, THIS HAS BEEN LONG OVERDUE.
UM, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE BY DANA PREVIOUSLY WAS THAT, UM, THERE WAS FUNDING AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT, UM, STAYED UP IN THE UPPER PART OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND NOT IN THE LOWER PART.
AND SO THIS IS OUR ATTEMPT NOW TO BRING SOME OF THAT FUNDING DOWN ON THE, IN THE LOWER PART WHERE IT'S REALLY, UH, NEEDED.
AND I AGREE WITH HIS COMMENT THAT THERE IS A LOT OF, UH, HOME REPAIR, UH, PARTICULARLY AMONG THE ELDERLYS THAT, UH, THIS FUND COULD ACTUALLY BE USED FOR.
SO I REALLY APPLAUD HIS, UH, UH, EFFORT AND THE EFFORTS BEING MADE BY THE, UM, HOUSING TRUST.
AND I'LL BE READY TO MAKE A MOTION IF YOU WANT, IF YOU NEED ME TO.
SHOULD WE MAKE, UH, GO AHEAD TOM.
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF, UH, UH, NATIONAL ORGANIZATION CALLED HOMEWORKS? UM, PLEASE.
WE HAVE, UM, IN MY, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR, I THINK IT'S A MONTH AND A HALF OR TWO MONTHS AND A HALF.
UH, THEY ARE ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO TO ASK WHAT WE CAN, HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM, HOW WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THEIR FUNDING STRUCTURE.
UH, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE ARE REALIZING THAT EVEN THE MOST AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE COULD BRING IN HERE IS STILL ONLY GONNA TOUCH THE NEED.
SO WE WILL PARTNER WITH THEM, WE'LL PARTNER WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS JOB GETS DONE.
THINK ABOUT THIS, WE LIVED IN CHARLOTTE FOR ABOUT 16 YEARS AND THROUGH OUR CHURCH PROGRAM WE WORKED WITH HOMEWORKS, THE NATIONAL, THEY LOVE THAT TYPE OF WORK AND THEY SUPPORT IT.
AND A LOT OF THE KIDS THAT WE HAD THROUGH OUR CLASSES, CCD, FAITH FORMATION, THEY LOVE DOING THAT.
SO IF YOU WANT SOME INFORMATION AND I CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANY RESOURCE WE CAN FIND.
AND MR. HICKS, YOU CAME TO US FROM MAINE, CORRECT? STATE OF MAINE? NO, THAT WAS DANA.
I CAME HERE FROM LANCASTER, PENNSYLVANIA.
BUT MY, UM, NORTHEAST, I'M SORRY.
MY MOTHER AND FATHER WERE BOTH BORN AND RAISED IN CHARLESTON.
SO THIS FOR ME IS COMING HOME.
MAINE FOR, SO, UM, MR. CAV, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AT THIS POINT? WELL, AFTER YOUR DISCUSSION, IF ANYBODY IS MOVED TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION THAT OKAY.
COMMITTEE RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THAT IT AUTHORIZED THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO SIGN THIS LETTER OF SUPPORT.
IF IT GETS SECOND AND CARRIES.
UM, SOME OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE ALREADY SIGNED A, THIS LETTER OF SUPPORT.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? OR? I NEED TO CHECK AND SEE HOW MANY LETTERS WE HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN IN.
I KNOW WE GOT THE MORE THE MERRIER, RIGHT.
I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? IF NOT WITHOUT OBJECTION, UM, WE'LL FORWARD THIS AND HAVE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SIGN A LETTER.
THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOU FOR COMING TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CHAIRMAN COMING, UM, FROM YOUR BOARD TOO, MR. STEWART, FOR FOR THE
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RECORD.UM, CHAIRMAN, SO THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL THAT IT AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE MOTION DID SAY.
[9. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND BEAUFORT COUNTY’S TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS (TIA) POLICY.]
ON THE AGENDA IS NUMBER NINE.RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND BEAUFORT COUNTY'S TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS TIA POLICY.
UM, AND MR. FRAS, ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS SAID, OH, NO, YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
UM, I'M KEVIN SULLIVAN, TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY ENGINEERING, THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNER INSTEAD OF, OKAY.
UM, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT, UH, THE, THE COMMITTEE, UH, OUR TIA ORDINANCE.
UH, IT'S, WE ACTUALLY, WE ASKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO GO TO COUNCIL, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED, UH, LAST WEEK.
UM, IT IS A UPDATE TO OUR TIA, UM, POLICY THAT MAKES OUR POLICY MORE REGIONAL, UM, AND, UM, MORE CONSISTENT.
UM, AND, AND, BUT IT'S STILL CONSISTENT WITH S-E-D-O-T STANDARDS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SEEKING TODAY FROM THE COMMITTEE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? YES, MADAM CHAIR.
I WILL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE, UM, APPROVE THIS AND SEND IT ON TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
YOU WANNA HAVE SOME IONS? YES, MA'AM.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE A OH, OKAY.
I'LL WAIT TILL I GO AFTER TAB.
UH, MINE IS NOT REALLY RELATED TO THE MOTION ITSELF, BUT, UM, I GUESS IT'S RELATED TO THE EFFICIENCY OF THE, UM, TRAFFIC, UM, FLOW, UM, COMING OFF OF, UM, ST.
HELENA BY SAM'S POINT ROAD AND HIGHWAY 21.
SOMEHOW THAT TRAFFIC FLOW THERE HAS BEEN BACKING UP.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING IT, BUT, UM, IF Y'ALL CAN LOOK INTO THAT, I SURE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, YOU DID A GIANT REWRITE, SO CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING SO PATIENT TO REWRITE THIS WHOLE THING.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE, WHAT'S SO MAGIC ABOUT GENERATES 50 OR MORE TRIPS DURING THE PEAK HOUR? WHERE'S 50 COME FROM? WELL, 50 50 IS WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY.
AND, UM, IT'S BASED ON, UH, I GUESS, UH, WHAT WE CALL LIKE AN INDUSTRY STANDARD.
BUT YOU TRY TO MAKE IT SPECIFIC AND YOU TRY TO MAKE IT CUSTOMIZ AND YOU TAILOR IT TO YOUR SPECIFIC NEEDS.
SO YOU CAN GO TO CALIFORNIA, IT MAY BE ANOTHER NUMBER.
YOU MAY GO TO NEW YORK, IT MAY BE ANOTHER NUMBER, BUT IT'S BASED ON, UH, THE PREFERENCES OF A PARTICULAR, UM, UM, COMMUNITY OR, OR COUNTY.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE DEVELOPMENTS AT A CERTAIN TRIP NUMBER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A DECISION THAT'S MADE BASED ON ENGINEERING EXPON EXPERTISE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU'VE KIND OF GO OFF THAT BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS BUILT OFF THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU DECIDE WE WANT TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AT 50 TRIPS, THEN ONCE A DEVELOPER COMES IN, HE OR SHE COMES IN, THEY KNOW, OKAY, IF I HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AT A HUNDRED TRIPS, IT'S NO NEED TO ASK A QUESTION.
IT'S KNOWN, IT'S IN THE POLICY.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S LIKE A NOTICE TO WHO, WHO'S EVER COMING IN TO DO DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN YOUR REGION.
IT JUST SEEMED KIND OF LOW 50 TRIPS WITHIN A TWO HOUR PERIOD IN THE MORNING AND TWO HOUR IN THE AFTERNOON.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD THE SAME QUESTION.
THEY, THEY, THEY ACTUALLY HAD THE SAME, UM, FEELING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TRIPS AS WELL, AND THEY, UM, THEY ACTUALLY FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THE 50 TRIPS.
SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, SEE, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS 25 IN 25 OUT.
I MEAN, IF A DEVELOPER READS THIS, THEY DON'T KNOW IT'S 25 IN 25 OUT.
UNLESS WE TELL THEM THAT, I ASSUME.
BUT THAT'S NOT CLEAR IN THIS TO ME.
HI, JENNIFER BEAL, BEAL ENGINEERING, ONE OF THE ON-CALL, UM, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS.
UM, IT'S, IT'S 50 TOTAL, SO IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF IN AND OUT, BUT IT'S DURING ONE HOUR OF THE PEAK.
UM, THE DOT, THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION STANDARD IS A HUNDRED.
UM, BUT PLANNING COMMISSION AND,
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AND COORDINATION PLANNING COMMISSION.AND THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, UM, 50 TRIPS, UM, WHICH IS, YOU WOULD HAVE MORE TRAFFIC STUDIES WOULD BE BEING COMPLETED 'CAUSE OF THAT TRIP THRESHOLD IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER.
UM, BUT THAT'S, WITH ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM, UM, WE WORKED WITH LATS, UM, LATS TECHNICAL COMMITTEE AND EVERYTHING, THAT, THAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT WAS DESIRED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WAS THAT 50 TRIPS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING 50 TRIPS WITHIN AN HOUR? 'CAUSE THIS LISTS TWO HOUR PERIODS.
IT'S, IT'S ONE HOUR WITHIN THAT TWO HOUR PERIOD.
SO WE HAVE A PEAK PERIOD OF SEVEN TO NINE IN THE MORNING AND FOUR TO SIX IN THE AFTERNOON.
AND IT'S 50 TRIPS DURING ONE OF, ONE OF THE HOUR, ONE OF THAT TIME.
SO IT COULD BE SEVEN 15 TO EIGHT 15, IT COULD BE 7 30, 8 30.
IT'S JUST ONE ONE HOUR DURING THAT TWO HOUR TIME PERIOD OF THAT KIND OF COMMUTER PEAK IN THE MORNING.
IT'S KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF AN HOUR.
IT'S A SNAPSHOT OF LIKE THE WORST, WORST CASE CONDITIONS.
IT'S KINDA LIKE A MOVING TARGET.
UM, REGARDING SCHOOLS LIVING NEAR, NEARBY A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE PEAK HOUR FOR THE SCHOOLS IS EARLIER USUALLY THAN FOUR O'CLOCK, IS THAT CORRECT? FOR, FOR SCHOOLS OR OTHER, UM, OTHER, EVEN LIKE RECREATIONAL USES THAT GIVES THE, THE, THIS, THIS ORDINANCE GIVES THE ADMINISTRATOR, THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE ORDINANCE, THE ABILITY TO ASK FOR, FOR, FOR OTHER TIME PERIODS.
FOR EXAMPLE, SCHOOLS, YOU WOULD PICK UP A TWO TO FOUR SCHOOL PM PEAK HOUR.
IF IT'S A PURELY RECREATIONAL, YOU MAY PICK UP A SATURDAY.
OR IF IT'S A CHURCH, YOU MAY PICK UP A SUNDAY.
SO THAT DOES GIVE THAT, THAT, UM, FLEXIBILITY, DISCRETION, UM OKAY.
DURING THAT SCOPING PART OF THE, OF THE STUDY.
BUT IT DOES ACTUALLY GIVE THE, A A, A TRADITIONAL A A STANDARD TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD JUST HAVE THAT, THAT AM AND P AND P HOUR.
AND YOU, Y'ALL MENTIONED IT, BUT THIS HAS BEEN COORDINATED WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES IN CORRECT.
WHAT ABOUT JASPER COUNTY AND HARDY? YEAH, SO, SO THE LATS, UM, TECHNICAL COMMITTEE, UM, EVERYBODY IS KIND OF WORKING WITH A SIMILAR VERSION OF THIS.
SOME OF THE MUNICIPALITIES WERE ACTUALLY ALREADY ADDRESSING IT.
UM, BUT THEY'RE, THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS HAVING MORE OF A REGIONAL APPROACH TO STUDIES, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, THAT THERE'S A CONSISTENT LOOK OF WHAT APPROVED DEVELOPMENTS ARE BEING INCLUDED AND WHAT THE GROWTH RATES ARE AND EVERYTHING AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD, SINCE WE ALL ARE ALSO IN INTERMINGLED.
HAVE ANY OF THEM ADOPTED OR ARE WE, WILL THIS BE THE FIRST ACTION? UM, HARDY WILL ADOPTED THEIR OWN, I BELIEVE HILTON HAD ADOPTED, HAS ADOPTED ONE THAT THEY, THOSE WERE ALREADY IN PROCESS.
AND THEN THE, A LOT OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE KIND OF WAITING FOR THE COUNTY TO GO FIRST AND THEN THEY'LL MATCH UP AND THEY'VE TWEAKED THE LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT ALL OF THE ORDINANCES ARE VERY SIMILAR.
DID WE, I THINK WE HAD A MOTION BEFORE WE STARTED THIS DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK ON IT TOO.
[10. CONSIDERATION BY COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP FOR 4.73 ACRES (R200 019 000 0076 0000) LOCATED AT 26 EUSTIS LANDING ROAD FROM T2 RURAL (T2R) AND T2 RURAL CENTER (T2RC) TO T2 RURAL CENTER (T2RC) - Robert Merchant, AICP, Director, Beaufort County Planning and Zoning]
GO ON TO, UM, NUMBER 10.THIS IS CONSIDERATION BY COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP FOR 4.73 ACRES.
UH, LOCATED AT 26 TIS LANDING ROAD FROM T TWO RURAL T THAT'S T TWO R AND T TWO RURAL CENTER T TWO RC TO T TWO RURAL CENTER.
UM, T TWO RC AND MR. MERCHANT WILL TALK TO THIS.
GIVE US THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON IT.
ALRIGHT, WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON.
UM, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT RECEIVED AN APPLICATION FOR A ZONING MAP, AMENDMENT FOR PARCEL LOCATED AT 26 EUSTIS LANDING ROAD.
THE PARCEL IS, UM, THE SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY 4.73 ACRES.
UM, IT'S A FLAG SHAPED LOT IN THE FRONT PORTION THAT TOUCHES HIGHWAY 21 OR SEATTLE.
AND PARKWAY IS ZONED T TWO RURAL CENTER.
THE REAR PORTION, SO IT SPLITS IN THE REAR PORTION IS ZONE T TWO RURAL.
UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REZONE THE, UH, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY T TWO RURAL CENTER.
UM, THE, UH, THERE'S A, UM, APPLICANT HAS AN OPTION TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP A MARINE SERVICE REPAIR SHOP.
UM, AND, BUT IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHAT ANY, YOU KNOW, MAP AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN CHANGING THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES YOU'RE ADOPTING, ALL THE USES ARE ALLOWED IN THAT DISTRICT.
THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN T TWO RURAL AND T TWO RURAL CENTER.
UM, T TWO RURAL IS PRIMARILY AN AGRICULTURAL, UH, RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, UM, THAT ALLOWS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF ONE DWELLING UNIT PER THREE ACRES.
IT HAS LIMITED NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, SUCH AS AGRICULTURE, AGRICULTURAL SUPPORT SERVICES AND, AND SEVERAL OTHERS.
BUT IT'S PRIMARILY A, A RURAL RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
T TWO RURAL CENTER IS A DISTRICT THAT IS MEANT TO SERVE AS A SMALL COMMERCIAL CENTER FOR RURAL COMMUNITIES.
AND SO IT ALLOWS RATHER BROAD RANGE OF RETAIL
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OFFICE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES.HOWEVER, THEY'RE LIMITED TO, UM, 25,000 OR 15,000 SQUARE FEET OR LESS.
SO IT'S, UM, BROAD RANGE OF USES, BUT LIMITED IN SCALE.
UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, THE EUSTIS COMMUNITY IS PART OF LADIES ISLAND.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT IS A VERY RURAL PART.
AND, UM, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE GOING EAST FROM THE CENTER OF LADIES ISLAND, YOU CROSS THE MARSH, YOU HAVE THE, THE, THE AIRPORT, THE WALMART.
AND THEN REALLY AFTER THAT POINT, THE DENSITY AND THE CHARACTER TAPERS OFF TO MORE OF A RURAL RE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER.
HELENA ISLAND THAN LADIES ISLAND.
AND THIS COMMUNITY, THE USES COMMUNITY IS RECOGNIZED AS IS A RURAL CROSSROADS IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT IS A HISTORIC COMMUNITY THERE.
UM, WITH, WITH MANY FAMILIES WHO'VE LIVED THERE FOR GENERATIONS.
THERE'S BEEN, THERE'S A SMALL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, UM, AT THE CORNER OF YUS LANDING ROAD, UM, AND, UH, SEA ISLAND PARKWAY.
AND GOING BACK TO 2004, UM, OUR DEPARTMENT DEVELOPED A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IN THAT AREA TO RESPOND TO AT THAT TIME.
WERE A NUMBER OF NON-CONFORMING USES.
YOU HAVE, UH, A GAS STATION, UM, FEED AND SEED STORE.
THERE'S SEVERAL USES IN THAT AREA.
AND IN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A STRONG INTEREST IN THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES BEING DRAWN TO ACCOMMODATE EXISTING USES, BUT NOT TO BE EXPANDED TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL GROWTH IN THIS COMMERCIAL AREA.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO, UM, INTERACTION WITH THE COMMUNITY AT THAT TIME, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TOOK AWAY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED THE BOUNDARIES THAT YOU SEE TODAY.
UH, ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING TO KNOW ABOUT THIS AREA IS THAT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE HAVE GROWTH BOUNDARIES IN NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY RIGHT NOW, THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES, AND THIS IS, UM, BETWEEN THE CITY OF BEAUFORT, TOWN OF PORT ROYAL AND BEAUFORT COUNTY.
UH, RIGHT NOW THEY GO TO CHOW AND CREEK, WHICH IS THE, UM, DELINEATION BETWEEN THE LADIES ISLAND AND ST.
BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS THAT WE WORK WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES TO MOVE THAT FURTHER WESTWARD TO, UM, JUST EAST OF THE WALMART SITE.
SO THERE'S A CONCERN, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMUNITY, WE, WE DID NOT WANNA SEE THIS AREA BE STRIPPED COMMERCIAL ALL THE WAY TO THE CHOW CREEK BRIDGE.
AND SO ANY ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL IN THIS AREA, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IN, IN, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING COMMERCIAL FOR THAT REASON.
UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, UH, EVAL, THE FACTORS THAT WE EVALUATE OR REZONING, UM, THE FIRST ONE IS CONSISTENCY WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND AS I KINDA SUMMARIZED BEFORE THE TWO THAT WE'RE, WE, WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT CONSISTENT.
THE ONE REASON IS THAT BECAUSE THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED AS A RURAL CENTER AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SMALL COMMERCIAL AREA THAT SERVES THE COMMUNITY, THE LANGUAGE IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY SAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS USE WOULD PROVIDE A SMALL AMOUNT OF PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED LOCALLY SERVING RETAIL IN A RURAL CONTEXT AND TRANSITION QUICKLY INTO AGRICULTURE USES OR THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AS ONE MOVES AWAY FROM, FROM THE INTERSECTION OR FROM THE CENTER OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS MAP, THE, UM, I WOULD SAY THE MID SHADE OF GREEN, AND I APOLOGIZE, A LITTLE BIT HARD TO READ, UH, IF THAT WERE A CHANGE TO T TWO RURAL CENTER, THEN YOU WOULD'VE COMMERCIAL USES BEING INTRODUCED WELL INTO THE EU, YOU KNOW, TO THE MORE RESIDENTIAL PARTS OF THE EUSTIS COMMUNITY, WHICH WE BELIEVE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THAT DEFINITION OF RURAL CROSSROADS.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS SIMPLY THE MOVING OR THE PROPOSED MOVEMENT OF THE GROWTH BOUNDARY THAT THIS GOES COUNTER TO, TO THAT, UM, RECOMMENDATION OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
CAN, CAN YOU POINT OUT WHERE THE GROWTH BOUNDARY ENDS? YES.
UM, ON THIS MAP, IF YOU SEE AT THE, UM, AT THE RIGHT END OF THE PAGE, THE LITTLE BLUE CREEK MM-HMM.
UM, IT PRETTY MUCH, THAT'S THE, THE GROWTH BOUNDARY TODAY.
UM, THAT'S CHOW AND CREEK, WHICH SEPARATES, UM, LADIES ISLAND FROM ST.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT THIS WOULD MOVE JUST EAST OF THE WALMART SITE, SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF AT THE OTHER END OF THE MAP.
UM, WITH THE EXPECTATION OF THIS AREA WOULD NOT SEE THE SAME AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CENTER OF LADIES ISLAND
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CHAIR.UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE COMMITTEE SOME DIRECTION, UH, A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE, THIS IS GONNA BE COMP NOT COMPLICATED, BUT WE'VE GOT A LONG LIST OF THINGS WE HAVE TO EITHER GRANT OR DENY.
AND SO WE NEED TO CAREFULLY GO THROUGH THESE AND ASK QUESTIONS.
AND I WAS, I WILL, I'LL GO THROUGH THE LIST IF THAT IS THE, THE, YEAH, UNLESS, AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION, ESPECIALLY YOU SAID ABOUT GROWTH BOUNDARIES, WHICH ONE OF THE NINE? YES.
AND ACTUALLY THE, THE TWO ITEMS THAT I MENTIONED DEAL WITH NUMBER ONE, AND THAT'S CONSISTENT.
AND I, WE, FROM OUR DEPARTMENT THAT IS SEEN AS, YOU KNOW, THE MOST IMPORTANT IS, YOU KNOW, THE PRIMARY THING WE LOOK FOR AT FIRST IS CONSISTENCY WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND USUALLY WHEN SOMETHING IS INCONSISTENT, THEN THE OTHER QUESTIONS TEND TO TREND NEGATIVE AS WELL.
UM, WHEN WE LOOK TO NUMBER TWO, THIS DOESN'T REALLY, THIS CHANGE WOULDN'T REALLY, UM, PROMOTE ANY CONFLICTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT CODES.
UM, IT WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS DEMONSTRATES A COMMUNITY NEED, NOR IS REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS.
UM, NUMBER FIVE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF INTRODUCING THIS LAND USE, UM, OR, OR COMMERCIAL USES, YOU KNOW, WELL INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS CURRENTLY RESIDENTIAL, WE BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD INTRODUCE USES THAT ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND PROPOSED, UH, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDING LAND SUBJECT TO THE APPLICATION.
SO NUMBER FIVE, WE BELIEVE, UM, THAT IT WOULD NOT BE COMPATIBLE.
PAGE 26 IS THE ONE WHERE WE HAVE A CHOICE.
I'M JUST, SARAH, IF YOU COULD BRING UP 26, PAGE 26 TOO.
BUT I THINK IT MAY BE CLEARER.
GOING BACK TO NUMBER FIVE AGAIN.
SO FIVE, UM, FIVE WE'RE SAYING IS INCOMPATIBLE.
SO I GUESS THAT WOULD BE NO
NUMBER SIX, YOU KNOW, VERY SIMILAR TO FIVE THAT THIS WOULD ADVERSELY IMPACT, UM, NEARBY LANDS AND ALSO IN NUMBER SEVEN WOULD NOT RESULT IN LOGICAL ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, WHICH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, IS, UM, PROPOSING FOR THAT AREA.
UM, THE ISSUE OF NUMBER EIGHT, TYPICALLY WHEN WE RESPOND TO IMPACTS OF THE ENVIRONMENT, WE DO NOT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR CODE, WE HAVE STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS, BUFFERS THAT, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY INTRODUCING COMMERCIAL USAGES CAN HAVE A GREATER IMPACT, BUT THEY ARE MITIGATED BY THE REQUIREMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND NUMBER NINE, ACTUALLY, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD RESULT, I MEAN, THI THIS PARTICULAR INTRODUCTION OF THIS USE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE, UH, TAXING ON EXISTING DELIVERY OF SERVICES.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT GENERATING A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S NOT THE PRIMARY CONCERN WITH STAFF.
AND THEN IN SUMMARY OUT, UM, THE STAFF, OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, WE STATED THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL FOR THE REASONS STATED IN, IN WHAT I MENTIONED ABOVE.
THE ZONING OF THE PARCEL WAS DELIBERATELY DESIGNED TO CONFINE BUSINESSES ALONG SEA ISLAND PARKWAY AND PREVENT THEIR ENCROACHMENT ONTO LOCAL ROADS.
THIS, UM, INTENTIONAL LIMITATION ON GROWTH IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED TO PRESERVE ITS CHARACTER.
IN ADDITION, THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN SPECIFIES AT ANY REZONING IN THIS AREA SHOULD ADHERE TO THE RURAL CROSSROADS PLACE TYPE, WHICH IS NOT, UH, ENC CASE WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSAL.
UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE MAY SIX MEETING UNANIMOUSLY, UM, VOTED TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF, OF THIS APPLICATION AS WELL.
AND DID THEY GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE LISTED ON YES, YES, WE DID.
AND IF YOU COULD, UM, FURTHER EXPLAIN WHAT IT, THE OWNER, THIS IS AT THE, THIS IS A CONDITIONAL, SOMEONE WANTS TO BUY THE PROPERTY YEAH.
TO, THIS HAPPENS A LOT WHERE SOMEBODY HAS AN OPTION TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND IT'S CONTINGENT ON, UH, UH, REZONING OF THE PROPERTY AND ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF IT IS ACTUALLY ON THE PARKWAY.
I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE LESS THAN A THIRD OF THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED TO TWO RURAL CENTER.
SO THAT, THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS SIMILAR IN SIZE TO THE PARCEL NEXT TO IT, WHICH IS A GAS STATION THAT IS ZONED FOR, THAT'S VACANTS AND ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
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THAT PRIMARILY FRONTS, UH, FRONTS USE THIS LANDING ROAD THAT'S ZONED T TWO RURAL, WHICH THEY'RE REQUESTING TO UPEND.WE NEED A MOTION 1ST OF MAY, MAY I SUGGEST THAT YOU ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SO THAT WE AVOID THAT SITUATION WE RAN INTO RECENTLY.
AND THEN COUNSEL COULD MAKE MOTION.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE HERE.
UM, SO IN ORDER TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS.
COUNCILMAN GLOVER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? SURE.
UM, I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION COMING FROM THE STAFF AND, UM, HIGHLIGHTED THAT, UH, NUMBER ONE, IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, FURTHERANCE OF GOALS AND POLICY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, NUMBER THREE, UH, IT DOES NOT ADDRESS A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED.
IT DOES, IT IS NOT REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS.
NUMBER FIVE IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND PROPOSED USES SURROUNDING THE LAND SUBJECT TO THE APPLICATION AND IS THE APPROPRIATE ZONE AND USE OF THE LAND FOR THE LAND.
UM, NUMBER SIX, THAT IT WOULD ADVERSELY IMPACT NEARBY LAND.
AND NUMBER SEVEN, UH, WOULD RESULT IN A LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WOULD NOT RESULT IN A LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, PATTERN.
AND THEN NUMBER EIGHT AND NUMBER NINE, UM, I'M NOT TOO SURE WHETHER I WOULD, DOESN'T INCLUDE EIGHT AND NINE.
CAN HE MM-HMM,
MAY I INTERJECT? I, I REALLY THINK THE MOTION WOULD BE TO BE CORRECT THAT MR. GLOVER WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND COUNSEL A DENIAL OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND BASED UPON THE FACTORS THAT HE JUST INDICATED.
'CAUSE IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO COUNSEL, THEN IT HAS TO GO TO COUNSEL AS A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
UM, COUNCILMAN GLOVER, CAN YOU CHANGE THE WORDING A LITTLE BIT FOR THAT? UM, I'M NOT TOO SURE I FOLLOWED MR. MR. JOE, UH, MR. PASSMAN ON THAT.
I THINK YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION.
I MADE A MOTION, UH, RECOMMEND DENIAL, UH, OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ZONING MAP FOR THE 4.3 ACRES AS, AS YOU INDICATED IN ITEMS 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, AND SEVEN.
IT HAS TO GO TO COUNCIL AND IT'S GOING AND TO BE FORWARDED TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? I, I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN GLOVER SAID BASED ON, UM, THAT USES ROAD IS VERY RURAL TO ME.
UM, AND SHOULD, THAT'S ONE PER THREE ACRES, CORRECT? YES.
AND I WOULD ALS ALSO REMEMBER MINE COUNSEL THAT A ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, I THINK, UH, ROB CAN SPEAK TO, AND I THINK HE TALKED TO ABOUT IT EARLIER, THAT THERE WERE SOME PROPERTY ALONG, UM, SEA ISLAND PARKWAY THAT WAS NOT A PART OF THE COMP, I MEAN THE COMMERCIAL ZONE.
AND WE ACTUALLY PLACED THOSE APOSTLES IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONE BECAUSE IT WAS SORT OF LEFT OUT.
SO WE DID THE RIGHT THING THERE.
AND ON THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL, THEY DO HAVE FRONTAGE ON SEA ISLAND PARKWAY, WHICH THEY CAN HAVE THE, UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE REMAINING PART GOING DOWN USELESS LANDING, UH, IS RURAL CHARACTERISTIC.
AND I THINK IT SHOULD REMAIN THAT WAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO EXPRESS AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? OKAY.
COUNCILMAN DAWSON, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO.
NO, I, I SUPPORT CO COUNCILMAN GLOVER'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION AS STATED TO FULL COUNSEL.
[11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A VOLUNTEER SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE FRIENDS OF WHITEHALL PARK TO ALLOW THEM TO PROVIDE VOLUNTEER SERVICES TO BE PERFORMED AT WHITEHALL PARK FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY - Stefanie M. Nagid, Passive Parks Department Director]
ON THE AGENDA IS, UM, REC NUMBER 11.UM, RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNSEL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A VOLUNTEER SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE FRIENDS OF WHITEHALL PARK TO
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ALLOW THEM TO PROVIDE VOLUNTEER SERVICES TO BE PERFORMED AT WHITEHALL PARK FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY.THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, SO IN MAY YOU HAD A SIMILAR RESOLUTION OF RECOMMENDATION FOR VOLUNTEER SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE FRIENDS OF FORT FREMONT.
SO THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY SIGNED.
AND SO TODAY WE'RE COMING TO YOU WITH THE SAME, UM, AGREEMENT FOR THE FRIENDS OF WHITEHALL PARK.
AND I DID ALSO WANT TO, UM, GIVE A THANKS TO THE FRIENDS GROUP, MR. SOMER AND MR. B UH, PAUL VAIRE ON THEIR, UM, PATIENTS WHILE WE WERE WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE INSURANCE ISSUES.
AND, UM, MS. WARD WITH THE COUNTY'S LEGAL DEPARTMENT DID A REALLY GOOD JOB, UH, COORDINATING WITH THEIR INSURANCE COMPANIES AND MAKING SURE WE COULD ALL AGREE TO SOMETHING.
UM, SO THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU AND, UH, I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.
WOULD UM, COUNCILMAN GLOVER LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? OH, I WOULD LOVE TO.
MADAM CHAIRMAN
AND WITH THAT I MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, THE AGREEMENT FOR VOLUNTEER SERVICES, UH, FOR THE FRIENDS OF WHITEHALL PARK RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
I, I'LL SECOND THAT AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DAWSON.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.
WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS THAT WANT TO DO THINGS LIKE LITTER PICKUP AND KEEP THE PARK LOOKING BEAUTIFUL, SO THIS IS GREAT.
AND ALL OF OUR PARKS SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
SO I TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS AND KUDOS TO THE VOLUNTEERS THAT DO IT IN 90 DEGREE HEAT.
UM, AND AS, AS BOB SIMILAR AND OTHERS ONLINE, REMEMBER THIS WAS A, UM, WE'RE GLAD WE GOT NINE ACRES INSTEAD OF ONE ACRE.
UH, THIS IS A GOOD JOINT PROJECT WITH THE CITY OF BEAUFORT THAT HAS TURNED OUT BEAUTIFUL.
AND, UH, YOUR OFFICE IS DOING A GOOD JOB OF PUBLICIZING THINGS PEOPLE CAN DO AT WHITEHALL PARK TOO, SO THANK YOU.
OR MAYBE IT MAY BE HANNAH HELPING WITH THAT TOO.
BUT WE'RE GETTING SOME GOOD PUBLICITY, UH, ON THAT PART.
I ARE YOU ANY WAY TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING IT OR, YEAH.
UM, ACTUALLY PART OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS THE PURCHASE OF TRAIL COUNTERS.
UM, SO I'M HOPING TO GET THOSE INSTALLED.
UM, I DO HAVE SOME DATA FOR SOME OTHER PARKS, BUT NOT FOR WHITEHALL.
ANY WEDDINGS THERE YET? OH YES.
AND, UM, THIS WE'LL RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITHOUT OBJECTION.
WE'LL RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO GO TO FULL COUNSEL.
[12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TO FUND DUE DILIGENCE AND NEGOTIATE TERMS OF ACQUISITIONS FOR GREEN SPACE APPLICATIONS (Trotter's Loop, Essex Farms, Victoria Bluff, and Broad Creek Marina) - Mike McShane, Chair of Green Space Advisory Committee; and Mark Davis, Deputy Director of Planning and Zoning]
BUT, UM, NOT LEAST IS NUMBER 12, WHICH IS RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TO FUND DUE DILIGENCE AND NEGOTIATE TERMS OR ACQUISITION FOR GREEN SPACE APPLICATIONS.WE HAD FOUR, AND I WANNA REMIND THIS, THE COMMITTEE, THIS IS ONLY FOR DUE DILIGENCE.
UM, WE'VE GOT TROTTER'S LOOP, ESSIC FARMS, VICTORIA BLUFF, AND BROAD CREEK MARINA, AND MR. MCSHANE, WHO'S CHAIRMAN OF THE GREEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND MARK DAVIS, WHOSE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PLANNING WILL TALK TO THIS.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MR. DAWSON, MR. YORK, GOOD TO SEE YOU EVEN ONLINE.
I AM MIKE MCSHANE, A RESIDENT OF CHARLESTON COUNTY AND HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE IT AS YOUR CHAIRMAN OF YOUR GREEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND BEFORE YOU THIS, THIS AFTERNOON ARE FOUR PROJECTS FOR THE PHASE ONE SEEKING PERMISSION TO DO DUE DILIGENCE.
MEANING THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE SOUGHT ENOUGH MERIT IN THE APPLICATION, IN THE DISCUSSION ON THE PROJECT TO COME FORWARD TO, UH, REQUEST DOLLARS TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL DILIGENCE, INCLUDING SURVEYS, APPRAISALS, OTHER WORK, AND EVEN FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS ALONG WITH THE APPLICANTS.
I I JUST NOTE THAT OF THE FOUR, INTERESTING.
NOT BY DESIGN, THEY CAME FROM EACH OF THE FOUR GEOGRAPHIC DISTRICTS.
IT'S JUST THE WAY THIS APPLICATION ROUND WENT THAT WE HAD ONE FROM EACH OF THE FOUR AND YOU HAVE A MIX OF, AND FOR THE FIRST TIME A FARMLAND PROTECTION, SOMETHING THAT IS A GREAT FOCUS BY THE COMMITTEE AND FRANKLY THE STATE AT LARGE LOOKING TO PROTECT OUR FARMLANDS.
TWO PRIVATELY OWNED UNDER EASEMENT.
AND AS I SAID BEFORE, THERE'S A BALANCE BETWEEN TRYING TO BUY IT ALL AND THOSE THAT NEED TO BE PRIVATELY HELD, MANAGED PRIVATELY, BUT PROTECTED.
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AND THEN OF COURSE, ONE OF A FEE, SIMPLE APPLICATION BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.IS IT YOUR PLEASURE? YOU WANT TO JUST GO THROUGH EACH ONE? I THINK THAT AND THE ORDER I HAVE WOULD BE ESSEX FARM.
OH, YOU WANT TO DO, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO DO WHICHEVER WAY.
LOCATED UP IN NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY, SURROUNDED BY, AND IF MAYBE THE NEXT SLIDE I THINK HAD OF YOU CAN SEE SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF CONSERVATION WORK THERE.
FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, A PROPERTY CALLED THE N MOORE'S WILDLIFE FOUNDATION.
I SERVE AS A TRUSTEE AND CHAIRMAN OF THAT ORGANIZATION.
WE'RE NOT CONTINGENT TO IT, BUT I DO JUST FOR DISCLOSURE, SHARE THAT I HAVE AN INTEREST IN THAT PROPERTY.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ACTUALLY THE GOOD THING ABOUT CONSERVATION, I SEE THAT MAP'S NOT EVEN REALLY UP TO DATE.
'CAUSE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE EVEN MORE WORK IN THAT AREA.
SO IT'S, UH, A REQUEST IS TO, UH, FOR THAT, TO GET PERMISSION TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE OF CHAIRMAN.
ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ON THIS PARTICULAR TRACK? ANYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? SO THIS WOULD BE ONLY THEY HAVE TO KEEP USING IT AS FARMLAND? YES, MA'AM.
BUT WE DON'T DI THE, THEY'LL THERE WOULD BE A, AN INSTRUMENT OF AN EASEMENT THAT WOULD DOCUMENT WHAT THE LIMITATIONS WOULD BE AND WHAT RESTRICTIONS.
BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT HAS TO BE THIS PARTICULAR PRODUCT VERSUS THAT PARTICULAR PRODUCE.
IT JUST, IT STAYS IN AN AGRICULTURAL USE.
AND THIS IS A GENERATIONALLY OWNED PROPERTY, WHICH WE'RE STARTING TO SEE FAMILIES VALUE THE FACT THAT THEY NOW HAVE GENERATIONAL OWNERSHIP IN THAT.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO TROTTER'S LOOP.
THIS IS ON, UM, LADIES ISLAND AND IS, UH, ALSO, UH, THIS IS THE FIRST ONE OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, UH, OF THE TRADITIONAL METHOD.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S GREAT PRESSURE IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.
NOW THIS IS A, THIS IS A FAMILY HAS WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY TO, UH, HAVE NOT HAD GENERATIONAL OWNERSHIP.
THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN BUYING THESE SMALL TRACKS AND IN MY MEMORY, AND I CLARIFY 18, 18 DIFFERENT TRACKS TO ACCUMULATE THIS PARTICULAR HOLDING.
AND THEN NOW I WANNA PUT THIS IN, IN AN EASEMENT.
THAT'S, I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL, UH, ATTRIBUTE TO THE FAMILY TO HAVE THAT KIND OF VALUE, TO BE ABLE TO WORK DILIGENTLY TO ACQUIRE 18 DIFFERENT TRACKS, BRING IT AS ONE AND THEN PLACE AN EASEMENT UNDER, UNDER THAT AT UH, GOOD.
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING TROTTER'S LOOP? HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT? UH, SEAN? 55.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING TROTTER'S LOOP? AND THEN NUMBER THREE IS VICTORIA BLUFF TRACKS AND BLUFF.
SO I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE VICTORIA BLUFF AND THE WALDE MARI CULTURAL CENTER.
IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I THINK IT SHOWS, AND THEN I'M GONNA HAVE ASK IF YOU'LL COME BACK TO THIS, YOU CAN SEE SORT OF ITS POSITION, THERE'S THE WADDELL CENTER AND OF COURSE THE VICTORIA BLUFF HERITAGE PRESERVE TRACK, THE TRACK THAT'S RIGHT ALONG, UH, 2 78 THAT SAYS SCD AND R LAND IS A TRACK THAT I ACTUALLY HAD THE PLEASURE WHEN I SERVED ON THE DR BOARD TO HELP THE AGENCY ACQUIRE.
AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT CONNECTIVITY AND ADJACENCY ARE TWO BIG VALUES IN LOOKING AT CONSERVATION.
IF YOU'RE GONNA INVEST IN THAT, YOU WANT TO HAVE IT WHERE YOU'RE NOT AN ISOLATED OASIS IN THE MIDDLE OF GREAT DEAL OF PRESSURE.
AND OF COURSE WHAT'S IN YELLOW IS WHAT THIS FAMILY OWNS AND THEY HAVE RESPECTFULLY COME.
IT'S NOT AN INEXPENSIVE PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHY, UH, YOU MIGHT NOTICE OUR DUE DILIGENCE REQUEST IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN NORMAL.
BUT WE THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME THINGS BECAUSE IT HAS HAD MULTI-GENERATIONAL OWNERSHIP AND PROBABLY NOT HAD A LOT OF, UM, LEGAL WORK DONE ON PROPERTY DESCRIPTION SURVEYS, ET CETERA IN SOME TIME.
SO WE JUST WANNA BE PREPARED THAT WE CAN, UH, BE IN A POSITION TO ADDRESS THAT.
UH, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE PRESSURE THAT'S AROUND IT.
THIS WOULD HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH PROTECTING ALREADY WHAT THE STATE IS INVESTED IN, IN ASSETS THERE THAT THE, THE, UH, PUBLIC BENEFITS FROM.
AND SO WE SOLICIT YOUR HELP ON THAT PROTECTION OF THAT 400 PLUS ACRES.
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING, UM, YES MA'AM.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS, BUT THAT PIECE OF LAND HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS OWNED BY THE STATE.
IS IT NOT? THE, WHAT YOU SEE IN THE LIGHT, WHAT I DESCRIBE AS THE LIGHT BLUE IS OWNED BY
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THE STATE HERITAGE PRESERVE.DNR HERITAGE PRESERVE IS A STATE PROGRAM THAT THAT ALLOWS, UM, A STATUS PLACED ON THAT THAT WOULD MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE STATE TO EVER DIVEST ITSELF OF THAT.
SO IT'S REALLY, TRULY HERITAGE PRESERVE IN THAT CONTEXT.
BECAUSE 27 YEARS AGO WE BOUGHT A HOUSE OVER IN SAWMILL FOREST, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THAT.
DOES HE OWN THIS? I THINK, I THINK THAT IS THE FAMILY, YES.
SO, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE CONTRIBUTING THE BREAD COMPANY, THEY'RE GONNA BE CONTRIBUTING A GREAT DEAL OF VALUE, WHAT THEY COULD SEE RIGHT THERE.
AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THEIR CHARACTER OF THAT THEY'RE WILLING IN A VOLUNTARY METHOD, NEGOTIATE NOT A REGULATION ON AND BEING COMPENSATED FOR PLACING THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON THAT.
HE WASN'T TOO HAPPY WHEN, UH, THAT LITTLE DEVELOPMENT WENT IN AND HE
YOU DIDN'T DARE GO DOWN THAT ROAD.
BUT I, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THIS.
UM, MADAM CHAIRMAN, LET ME QUICKLY ASK A QUESTION, MR. ACHE.
THE PIECE THAT'S LEFT ALONG, UH, SAWMILL CREEK, WHO OWNS THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY? THAT'S TO, IS THAT OKAY? THAT'S TO THE LEFT.
IS IT NOT THAT LAST PIECE? YEAH.
IT'S, WHO'S, WHO'S IT? IT'S INDIVIDUAL OWNERS.
IT'S, I CAN, MR. MR. YORK, I CAN GET THAT TO YOU.
I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME.
PART OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS ASKED IT'S APPLICANTS, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS A LAND TRUST, IS THAT WHEN WE WORK THROUGH THIS TO THEN GO OUT AND TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA.
AND AGAIN, TO SEE IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CREATE, UH, THE SYNERGY OF ADJACENCY AND CONNECTIVITY AS I'VE SAID BEFORE ON THAT.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.
FILL IN THE, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM, FROM YOU YORK OR, OR COUNCILMAN DAWSON OR OTHER MEMBERS? NO, NO.
SO, UH, I'LL LOOK TO MR. KEVIN.
WE HAVE ONE MORE MAD CHAIRMAN.
THE ONE THAT'S ON HILTON HEAD, I'M SORRY.
THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR FEE SIMPLE BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.
UH, TO ACQUIRE THIS TRACK, YOU'LL SEE THE TRACKING THAT LIGHT GREEN IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE TOWN.
AND SO THIS WOULD BE AN ACQUISITION OF THE TRACK THAT'S IN YELLOW IS CURRENTLY, UH, A HAS A, UH, SOME RECREATIONAL USE TO IT.
AND THAT WOULD, THE TOWN IS IMPLEMENT IS COMING IN THAT THEY WOULD TRANSITION THAT INTO MORE OF A PASSIVE USE, NOT THAT RECREATIONAL, UH, GOLF CART, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT TERM.
IT'S GO-KART, GO-KART GO-KART TYPE, UM, USE THERE.
AND UH, AND THERE WAS ENOUGH MERIT FOR THE COMMITTEE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR SOME DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE WE DO ANY NEGOTIATIONS WITH BOTH THE CURRENT OWNER AND THE TOWN ON THAT.
HOW MANY ACRES IS THIS? 8 0 9.
MR. CHAIRMAN, ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ONE? YES SIR.
UM, IS THIS THE SAME ONE THAT THE COUNTY LOOKED AT A WHILE BACK? IS THIS THE SAME TRACK? 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN TO THAT PROPERTY A BIT AND I THINK THE COUNTY WAS LOOKING AT THAT AT ONE POINT.
I CAN, I THINK KATE WAS LOOKING AT SOMETHING IS THE, UM, NO, I THINK I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT NO.
YEAH, YOU CAN SEE NOW IN THIS, IN THIS VISUAL YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, THAT PATHWAY THAT WAS THERE.
THE TOWN I, I'M NOT ASKING, WE HAVE NOT ASKED THE TOWN AS THIS MOMENT TO MAKE ANY TYPE OF COMMITMENTS, BUT THEY, THEY'RE LOOKING AT A WAY THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANOTHER WATER ACCESS, NOT A BOAT RAMP ACCESS, BUT WATER ACCESS, UH, FOR THAT WHICH IS FRANKLY, UH, BECOMING MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COASTAL PLAIN ANYMORE.
YOU KNOW, JUST AS PROPERTIES TRANSITION OVER, BECOME PRIVATELY HELD OR IN A DEVELOPMENT, THEN A LOT OF THE PUBLIC LOSES ACCESS TO WHAT MAY HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN AVAILABLE TO THEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT THAT.
WHY DOESN'T THE TOWN WISH TO PURCHASE IT? KNOWN IT? I AM SORRY.
WOULD YOU SAY WHY, WHY DOES THE TOWN WANT THIS TO GO TO GREEN SPACE? WHY DON'T THEY TAKE CARE OF IT? THAT'S A VERY FAIR QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, UNDER THE ORDINANCE THEY'RE ENTITLED TO MAKE AN APPLICATION AND REALLY OUR ONLY OBLIGATION IS TO, IS TO HAVE A TIME PERIOD TO REVIEW THAT APPLICATION.
IF WE DETERMINE THERE'S MERIT FOR THE CONSERVATION
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ETHIC, WE WILL COME BACK FORWARD.AND THAT, AND YOU MAY SEE AT TIMES IN GENERAL, NOT SPECIFICALLY THIS PROJECT WHERE AN APPLICANT MAY ASK FOR X AND WE MAY COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF SOMETHING MUCH LESS THAN X OR A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE NOT MOVE FORWARD.
AND WE DID DO THAT ON ONE PROJECT.
BECAUSE IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THE, THE PROPERTY, IT WAS, THEY ASKED FOR A FEE SIMPLE AND WE THINK THERE WAS A BETTER OPPORTUNITY ON ANOTHER PATHWAY.
AND IT'S BEEN POINTED OUT THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER RESOURCES THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO DO THAT.
SO I ENCOURAGE LIKE WATER ACCESS, WELL THERE IS SOME FEDERAL UP WATER ACCESS FUNDS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE STATE TO BE ABLE TO, FOR MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY TO MAKE ACCESS TO.
YOUR COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN, IN USING, UM, UH, BETTER ACCESS WATER ACCESS FUNDS FOR, FOR A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THROUGHOUT.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE YOUR BOAT RAMPS AND, UH, OTHER ACCESS POINTS REALLY COME FROM.
SO THIS WAS BROUGHT IN FRONT OF THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE TO BRING FORWARD TO THIS COMMITTEE AND, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON ALL FOUR AT ONE TIME.
I WOULD JUST ASK YOUR COMMITTEE, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO TAKING ALL FOUR TOGETHER? ANY OBJECTION TO TAKING ALL FOUR AT ONE TIME? JUST TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE AT THIS TIME.
SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE.
ON ALL FOUR PROPERTIES AND THE ESTIMATE.
I'LL SECOND THAT AND A SECOND BY MS. BROWN.
AND WE HAVE THE ESTIMATES OF UP TO COSTS.
UH, WITH EVERYONE UNDERSTANDING WHY THE ONE IS HIGHER BECAUSE OF WHERE IT'S AT AND WE'RE SPECULATING A LITTLE THERE.
WE WOULD COME, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY, YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE THE ACTUAL COST OF ALL THIS IF WE CAME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO DO ANY FURTHER WORK.
WE'LL GO FORWARD AND WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THESE TOO.
AND MR. DAVIS, CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? YES, SIR.
BEYOND THIS, UH, MR. MCSHANE, YOU KNEW I WAS GONNA ASK THIS CORRECT.
SO MAYBE JUST TO, TO BENCHMARK WHERE EVERYBODY'S AT THE SAME SPOT.
THE, UH, TOWN'S OFFER WAS SUBMITTED AND THE MINORITY INTEREST PARTY, UH, INVOKED THEIR 60 DAY WINDOW TO BE ABLE TO EITHER MATCH OR EXCEED THAT AND WE'RE IN THAT 60 DAY WINDOW, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO WAIT TO 60 DAYS.
I'M NOT AWARE AS OF TODAY THAT THEY'VE MADE ANY MOVEMENT.
AND THE CURRENT STATUS, I'M GOING BY MEMORY HERE, WE'RE PROBABLY IN AROUND 40 DAYS OR PLUS OR MINUS A DAY OR TWO REMAINING ON THAT PERIOD.
UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN A WEIGHT POSITION.
SO WHEN THAT CYCLE COMES TO AN END AND AND PRESUMING FOR DISCUSSION THAT MINORITY INTEREST HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING, THEN THE TOWN CAN MOVE RAPIDLY AND THE COUNTY CAN MOVE RAPIDLY.
AND, AND SO THAT WE CAN ACQUIRE THAT.
'CAUSE I THINK THE OUTCOME, I THINK IS SHARED THROUGHOUT TO ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY FOR THE PUBLIC TRUST.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN.
HE WENT TO THE JASPER COUNTY, UM, COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING ON ONE OF THE HEAVIEST RAIN NIGHTS
WHAT? THAT'S WHY I DRIVE A TRUCK
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD'VE, I, WHATEVER I HID AT LEAST IT WASN'T A BODY.
SO WE'RE GONNA, WHATEVER IT WAS, BUT WE, WE, UM, WANT TO, WE'VE BEEN DOING A ROAD SHOW, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, JULIANNE SMITH SPOKE TO THE PORT ROYAL FOUNDATION, UH, A WEEK AGO, WEEK AND A HALF AGO.
AND, UH, WE'VE GOT SOME IDEAS TO TAKE IT TO THE PUBLIC.
I MEAN, THIS IS THE BEST NEWS IN THE NATION PERHAPS, AND AT LEAST IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THIS PROGRAM IS.
AND, UM, SO AS LONG AS MR. MCSHANE WILL DO THE ROAD SHOW, WE'LL KEEP GOING.
SO
UM, THE, UH, VERY FIRST ONE, THE FARMLAND PRESERVATION APPLICATION IS IN FRONT OF THE STATE CONSERVATION BANK AS WELL.
SO YOU'LL HAVE A PARTNER IN ON THAT AT THE STATE LEVEL.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE, THE SECRET SAUCE, IF I COULD USE THAT TERM OF WHAT BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS DISCOVERED, IS THAT YOU THEN MAKE IT FAR MORE COMPETITIVE AGAINST YOUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES AT A STATE LEVEL.
FRANKLY, ALL COUNTIES AT THIS POINT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE STRENGTH OF YOUR PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S NOT BECAUSE OF ME, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS COUNCIL SET THIS UP.
KEEP IN MIND IT WAS JUST A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.
YOU FORMED YOUR COMMITTEE THE LAST OCTOBER, I THINK
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MARK WAS WHEN COUNCIL APPROVED THE PROGRAM.AND HERE WE ARE JUST IN EARLY JUNE AND YOU'VE ALREADY HAD A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND MORE TO COME.
WE TEND TO GET SO ENGAGED IN WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE PRESENT.
WE FORGET ABOUT REALLY THE FACT THAT YOU'VE JUST SET A LEGACY, IN MY VIEW AND MADAM CHAIR.
THAT'S THE REASON TO TAKE THE SHOW ON THE ROAD.
HE DID IT IN SUN CITY AND PEOPLE WERE VERY IMPRESSED.
THEY DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE FULL GREEN SPACE CONCEPT UNTIL HE SHOWED EVERYTHING.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO TAKE IT ON THE ROAD.
WE'RE GONNA WORK ON SOME DATES WITH YOUR SCHEDULE FOR THAT, BUT, UH, LADIES ISLAND BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL IS TOMORROW MORNING.
UM, SO I I'M GONNA DO THAT ONE YOU'RE SUGGESTING.
BUT WE CAN GO TO THE RECREATION CENTERS.
I'M SUGGESTING TO GO TO LIBRARY LIBRARIES.
LIBRARIES LIKE WE DO WITH OTHER, WE COULD DO THE BUCK WALTER RECREATION.
WE DO BLUFFTON LIBRARY, HILTON HEAD LIBRARY.
YOU KNOW, TAKE IT AROUND BECAUSE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND ALSO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS IS FUNDED BY THE PENNY TAX.
SO I KNOW MY DISTRICT COLLEGE AND RIVER AND SAW MILL.
THAT SOMEBODY'S GONNA WELL, WELL HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A GREAT STORY TO TELL WITH VICTORIA BLUFF.
MR. DURT USED TO HAVE HIS MAILBOX OUT THERE AS A BREAD BOX.
THAT WAS HIS MAILBOX AND HE TOOK IT DOWN WHEN PEOPLE STARTED DISCOVERING WHO IT WAS.
IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? NO.
READ ADJOURNED A LITTLE EARLY.
WE'LL BE BACK AT FIVE O'CLOCK.