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[4. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES – May 6, 2024]
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ALL RIGHT, ANY, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AGENDA? I'M GONNA ASK WHAT I'M SURE.UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WHO MAKES, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A CITIZEN COMMENTS.
[7. CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE (CDC): DIVISION 6.3 (TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS) TO UPDATE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS STANDARDS.]
ONTO THE ACTION ITEMS. UH, WE'RE HERE, UH, WITH A CONTINUANCE, IF YOU WILL, IN CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE, DIVISION 6.3, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS TO UPDATE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS STANDARDS.KEVIN, YOU WANNA TAKE THE GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSION? GOOD AFTERNOON.
WE ARE HERE TO, UH, TO, UH, TO RE BRING FORWARD THE TIA ORDINANCE, UM, AMENDMENT.
UM, BASICALLY, UH, THE COMMISSION HAD A FEW CONCERNS, A FEW QUESTIONS, UM, AT OUR LAST MEETING.
AND, UM, WE CAME UP WITH CHANGES THAT WERE REQUESTED BY THE COMMISSION.
UM, AND THE FIRST CHANGE HAD TO DO WITH COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN LANGUAGE.
SO WE REINSERTED THAT LANGUAGE.
YOU SHOULD SEE IT IN YOUR PACKAGES.
UM, WE ALSO, UH, REINSERTED THE 50 TRIP THRESHOLD, UM, THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY THERE AS WELL.
UM, WE SPENT A LOT OF, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LAST TIME, UM, TALKING ABOUT AND AROUND THE ESCROW ACCOUNT PIECE OF THIS AMENDED TIA ORDINANCE.
UM, SO ALL QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS CONCERNING THE ESCROW.
UM, UH, UH, UH, PIECE OF IT WILL BE ANSWERED BY, UM, OUR ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, JARED FRAS, AND HE'S HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK TO THOSE ISSUES.
THANKS, UH, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
ONE FOR YOU GUYS HERE IN THIS, UM, I'M HOPEFUL WITH THIS ORDINANCE THAT IT'S A REGIONAL, UM, STEP FORWARD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS WE PLAN TOGETHER, NOT JUST FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY, BUT AS OTHERS HOPEFULLY FOLLOW SUIT.
SO, UM, ONE, OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T, I DIDN'T ATTEND, BUT HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE INTEREST ACCOUNT AND IN, IN, UM, AN ACCOUNT LIKE THIS.
SO FINANCE HAS A CHART OF ACCOUNTS WHERE WE DO PROJECT, PROJECT ACCOUNTING.
SO EVERY PROJECT THAT WE DO, WHETHER IT'S A, A FULL DESIGN PROJECT OR WHETHER IT'S A SEPARATE SET ALONE PROJECT, WE HAVE PROJECT ACCOUNTING.
SO WE CAN ESTABLISH A CODE WHERE THAT, THAT FUNDING RESIDES.
SO IT'S SET ASIDE FROM OUR GENERAL FUNDING INTO A CERTAIN LOCATION WITH A CERTAIN, UM, UM, TYPE OF MONIKER SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS AND WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
THEN INSIDE OF THAT, AS FAR AS INTEREST.
SO INTEREST IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THE INTENT OF THIS IS, IS NOT TO BE A MONEY MAKER FROM THE INTEREST SIDE OF THE ACCOUNT.
THE INTENT IS TO, TO HAVE THE MONEY SIT THERE, POOL THERE, AND THEN MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, INTEREST IS, IS, UM, DEALT WITH ON THE TREASURER SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
SO WHAT THE TREASURER DOES IS THEY COORDINATE WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE POOLED CASH.
SO FINANCE HAS THE CHART OF ACCOUNTS OF WHAT THE CASH IN THE, IN THE CHECKING ACCOUNT IS ATTRIBUTED TO.
AND THEN THE TREASURER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THE CASH AS IT RESIDES.
SO DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT'S A SHORT TERM, UH, HOW MUCH, HOW LIQUID IT IS, HOW MUCH WE NEED ACCESS TO IT IN THE SHORT TERM IS WHERE IT'S INVESTED AT, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A MUCH LOWER RETURN AND THEN MIDTERM AND LONG TERM.
AND SO TO GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC ANSWER ON THE INTERESTS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE TREASURER WOULD DO DEPENDING ON OUR INTERACTION WITH FINANCE ON, ON THE PROJECT AND PRI AND FINANCE INTERACTION WITH THE TREASURER.
SO, UM, I KNOW THAT'S A ROUNDABOUT ANSWER, UH, TO TELL YOU ABOUT INTEREST, BUT, UM, DON'T REALLY HAVE THE SPECIFICS.
THE, THE GOAL IS TO USE THE, THE FUNDING THAT'S ESTABLISHED.
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THEN FROM THERE, UH, IF IT DOES EARN INTEREST, THEN IT WOULD BETWEEN, UH, FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND TREASURER WHERE THAT INTEREST, WHETHER IT GOES BACK TO THAT SPECIFIC ACCOUNT OR WHETHER IT GOES TO GENERAL FUND TO FUND, UH, COUNTY OPERATIONS.UM, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. FRALEY? UH, YES.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INTEREST ON AN ESCROW ACCOUNT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
WHO'S, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO SET ASIDE SOME MONEY TO PAY FOR POTENTIALLY NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
AND FOR HOW LONG? IT'S LIKE SAYING, OKAY, HERE, TAKE MY 20,000 OR 50,000 OR WHATEVER THE, THE NUMBER MIGHT BE AND JUST NOT QUITE KISSING IT GOODBYE.
BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, IT JUST SEEMS, YEAH.
SO IT WOULD BE A, A CHECK A SET ASIDE FROM THE DEVELOPER, AND THEN THE, THE COUNTY WOULD HOLD AND RESIDE THAT CASH FOR THOSE SET ASIDE IMPROVEMENTS.
WHAT'S NOT ESTABLISHED, UM, IS THE TIMEFRAME, WHETHER THAT'S TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, UM, WE'VE HAD THAT.
AND, AND THAT'S COMMON LANGUAGE, LIKE IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, WHENEVER THERE'S SET ASIDE FUNDS THAT IF THOSE FUNDS AREN'T UTILIZED WITHIN X PERIOD OF TIME, THEN THEY RETURN TO THAT SAID DEVELOPER.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE ORDINANCE, I MEAN, IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.
AND THE INTENT HERE, AND THIS IS WHAT I HOPE TO REALLY GET ACROSS, IS THE INTENT IS RIGHT NOW, UM, THE WAY DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS AND SAY A SIGNAL IMPROVEMENT IS AS CASE IN POINT IS IF A DEVELOPER A COMES IN AND THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS THEY DON'T MEET THAT WARRANT, UM, THEY MAY HAVE TO DO SOME SIDE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THE SIGNAL ISN'T WARRANTED.
THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING A DIME TOWARDS THAT SIGNAL INSTALLATION TODAY.
AND THEN DEVELOPER B COMES IN AND THEY, UH, DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THEY ARE, THEY MEET THE WARRANT, THEY TRIP THEIR TRIPS, GENERATE ENOUGH TRIPS TO SIGNAL THAT A PLUS B HAVE ENOUGH TRIPS TO THAT INTERSECTION.
NOW THEY'RE THE SOLE RESPONSIBLE TO BEAR THAT COST, EVEN IF THEIR DEVELOPMENT MAY BE SMALLER THAN DEVELOPMENT A WAS.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS IS BE MORE PROACTIVE.
UM, AND A GOOD EXAMPLE IS WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE THAT WE'RE WORKING CURRENTLY NOW ON BUCK WALTER AND PARKSIDE BOULEVARD WOODBRIDGE, UM, RIGHT THERE.
SO THERE'S A THREE-WAY AGREEMENT.
AND, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BE PROACTIVE.
WE HAVE AN ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT SAYS THIS IS WHERE THE SIGNAL WILL BE LOCATED.
AND UNFORTUNATELY IN TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND TRAFFIC WORLD IS BASED OFF DATA AND DATA IN TRAFFIC WORLD IS ACCIDENTS.
AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE WAS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD IN THIS ORDINANCE IS TO SAY, OKAY, WE KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE AN INTERSECTION HERE WHEN IT MEETS.
AND ON THAT PARTICULAR ROAD, BEAUFORT COUNTY OWNS BLUFFTON PARKWAY, SO WE HAVE MORE CONTROL THAN ON A DOT ROAD, BUT WE OWN THAT.
AND, AND WE KNOW ALREADY THAT IT'S CHALLENGING TO GET OUT OF THERE IF YOU LIVE IN WOODBRIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE RESERVE RIGHT THERE BESIDE WOODBRIDGE.
WE HEAR THOSE COMMENTS ALL THE TIME THAT IT'S CHALLENGING TO GET OUT THERE.
AND TYPICAL TRAFFIC DATA WOULD SAY IT DOESN'T MEET THE WARRANT AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ACCIDENTS, SORRY, SIT ON THE SIGNAL.
HOWEVER, WE KNOW THERE'S DEVELOPMENT COMING ACROSS THE STREET AND DEVELOPMENT COMING UP THERE.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE THREE DEVELOPMENTS.
SO THE, OUR TWO DEVELOPMENTS AND THE SUBDIVISION.
SO WE ARE REPRESENTING THE SUBDIVISION, THE COUNTY IS AS THAT'S UNINCORPORATED.
AND THEN DEVELOPING A AND DEVELOPMENT ME B ALL ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO SEE HOW MUCH EACH UNIT IS GENERATING IN TRAFFIC AND DIVIDING THE COST OF THE PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS, WHATEVER THAT COST IS BY THEIR APPROPRIATE SHARE.
AND THEN EVERYBODY FUND THAT SHARE, AND THEN WE INSTALL IT.
EVEN IF IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WARRANTED TODAY, WE KNOW IT WILL BE WARRANTED WHEN THOSE COME ALONG VERSUS WAIT TILL DEVELOPER A BUILDS, THEY DIDN'T MEET THE THRESHOLD AND DEVELOPER B BUILDS, AND FINALLY THEY HAVE TO HIT THE BURDEN OF ALL OF IT.
UM, THE ONLY, ONLY PART THAT WE DON'T HAVE IS THE TIMELINE.
I GUESS MY ONLY THING WOULD BE THAT I'VE RARELY SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS CODIFIED IN AN ORDINANCE.
IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A BUSINESS ARRANGEMENT
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THAT YOU MIGHT, OR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE INSTEAD OF CODING IT IN INTO AN ORDINANCE.BUT THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
AND, AND ANOTHER THING, AGAIN, WHAT THE INTENT OF THIS, AND THIS IS WHAT I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE, ARE LOOKING AT THE BROAD PICTURE.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE IS, UH, ANOTHER EXAMPLE, AND WE JUST HAD THIS, KEVIN WENT TO THIS MEETING HERE RECENTLY IN THE TOWN OF HARDY.
THEY HAVE A TON OF PROJECTS AND OLD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
UH, THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED SOME 10, 15, 20 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN SOLD A COUPLE TIMES OVER.
WELL, NOW WE SEE A HIGHER INTEREST OF THOSE DEVELOPERS BUILDING IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEY HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
EITHER IT'S DONE OR THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REDOING IT.
BUT WHAT THE, WHAT'S NOT GOING ON IS AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON.
SO DEVELOPER A HAS THIS GROWTH MODEL, DEVELOPER B, THIS OTHER ONE.
AND SO WHAT WE DON'T HAVE AT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT SIDE IS THE RIGHT DATA TO SAY, OKAY, WE KNOW THAT 2 78 NEEDS IMPROVEMENT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE DATA ON WHEN THAT IMPROVEMENT, WHETHER IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN TWO YEARS OR SIX YEARS.
AND YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PLANNED SO MANY HOMES AND YOU KNOW HOW FAST YOU INTEND TO BUILD THOSE HOMES AND WHAT YOUR GROWTH RATE IS ES ESTABLISHED WITH THAT.
SO WHAT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF DEVELOPER A FROM ATLANTA AND DEVELOPER BS FROM JACKSONVILLE AND DEVELOPER CS FROM CHARLESTON, THEY'RE ONLY USING THEIR OWN DATA.
WELL, WHAT WE'RE DOING LOCALLY THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE, WE HAVE A REPOSITORY OF INFORMATION STORED WITH OUR LOCAL SELECTED, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEERS CONSULTING FIRMS THAT IF DEVELOPER A CAME IN FROM ATLANTA, THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT B AND C ARE ALREADY DOING.
SO IN THEIR TRAFFIC REPORT, ONE, THEY HAVE TO USE THE SAME GROWTH RATE BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT ESTABLISHED.
AND TWO, THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO FACTOR IN THESE NEXT DOOR DEVELOPMENTS SUCH THAT THEIR, THEIR TRUE IMPACTS AND THEIR NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS ARE APPROPRIATE.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GETTING A FAIR, WE'RE GETTING SOMEBODY COME IN AND THEN THEY GOES DIRECTLY TO DOT AND DOT GIVES THEM A DRIVEWAY PERMIT, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE EXACTLY WHERE WE WANT IT.
AND THEN SECONDLY, IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN COORDINATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT B AND C AND, AND HOW THEIR GROWTH AND HOW THEIR IMPACTS ARE ASSOCIATED.
SO THIS COLLECTS ALL THE DATA, UM, AND THEN WE CAN SOURCE, UM, OUR ON-CALL ENGINEERS TO HELP US MAINTAIN THAT DATA, UM, AND, AND EQUALIZE IT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIG WHAT OUR GOAL IS, WHAT OUR INTENDED GOAL.
YEAH, I MEAN, IT IS LARGER CATCHMENT BASE OF DATA.
WELL, AND, AND, UM, KEVIN AND JENNIFER CAN SPEAK TO THIS.
SO I THINK THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WAYS IT CAN BE SOURCED THROUGH THE DEVELOP, THROUGH THE ORDINANCE IS, IS ONE, THEY CAN COME AND U UTILIZE OUR CONSULTING ENGINEER.
SO IF THEY, THEY WANT TO JUST SAY, OKAY, WE'VE GOTTA HIRE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
TELL US WHAT TRAFFIC ENGINEER DID WE USE ONE OF THESE THREE, THAT WOULD BE OPTION A.
OPTION B IS THEY COME IN FROM ATLANTA AND THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND THEY CAN, UM, STICK WITH THEIR OWN TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR US TO HAVE OUR THREE ENGINEERS, CONSULTANT ENGINEERS TO REVIEW, TO MAKE SURE IT IS APPROPRIATE.
SO, UM, A DEVELOPER NEVER ASKS TO SPEND MONEY, SO SURE.
UH, OR MORE MONEY THAN THEY HAVE TO, AND OF, OF ANY SIZE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS A, A REALLY MINOR COST AS FAR AS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS, IS, UM, THE SAME.
WELL, FROM A POLICY POINT OF VIEW, IT SEEMS MAKE A LOT OF SENSE FROM PLANNING POINT OF VIEW.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER AREAS IN THE STATE, I THINK, UH, DORCHESTER AND, AND BERKELEY, I KNOW JENNIFER, JENNIFER, UH, SHE DOES A LOT OF WORK IN THE AREA, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND, AND, UH, HAS SEEN THIS COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS OF DIFFERENT MODELS, UH, IN THE CHARLESTON AND DORCHESTER AREA.
IN, IN THE CHARLESTON, IN THE CHARLESTON AREA, UH, SOMERVILLE TOWN OF SOMERVILLE AND DORCHESTER COUNTY ARE ACTUALLY ON THEIR SECOND ROUND OF THIS.
SO THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR FIVE YEARS.
THEY ACTUALLY ARE JUST STARTING THEIR SECOND SET OF FIVE YEARS.
AND THEN BERKELEY COUNTY IS ALSO DOING IT AS WELL.
CITY OF NORTH CHARLESTON IS DOING IT, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, UM, MORE THE, UH, IN THE CHARLESTON COUNTY, BERKELEY COUNTY DORCHESTER REGION THAT ARE CONSIDERING IT AS WELL.
SO IT'S BEEN KIND OF, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE NEW DOWN HERE AND, BUT AS WE SAID, WE WENT TO THE LATS POLICY COMMITTEE AND ALSO TECHNICAL COMMITTEE.
SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE, THAT ARE REAL INTERESTED IN, IN THIS PROCESS.
BUT YEAH, IT'S NOT A, FOR HERE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A NEWER PROCESS,
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BUT NOT ACROSS THE STATE.UM, JENNIFER, JUST ONE QUESTION.
UM, YOU SAID THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THEIR SECOND ROUND OF THIS WHEN THEY, DID THEY HAVE TO DO A LOT OF TWEAKING TO GET IT BETTER, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT THEY THOUGHT ORIGINALLY OR, YOU KNOW? NO, THEY, THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THEIR, YEAH, THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THEIR ORDINANCE.
THEY JUST HAD SELECTED, THEY HAD A FIVE, THEY HAD, UM, A, A, YOU KNOW, THEY DID THEIR FIRST SELECTION.
IT WENT THROUGH THE NUMBER OF RENEWALS AND THEN OF CONSULTANTS OF CONSULTANTS, AND THEN THEY JUST DID THEIR SECOND, SECOND SELECTION OF CONSULTANTS.
AND THAT PROCESS IS STARTING FOR THAT.
BASICALLY, THEY'RE KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE CONTRACTUAL WITH THE ON-CALL CONSULTANTS, BUT THE, THE ORDINANCE TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HAS NOT CHANGED.
SO THEY'VE HAD GOOD SUCCESS WITH THIS.
THEY'VE BEEN VERY, THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO ON THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE COUNTIES HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH THE PROCESS.
IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'M GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION.
OH, I, BUT IT WASN'T ABOUT FINANCE.
THEY WERE JUST ABOUT OTHER KINDS OF QUESTIONS.
NOT, DID YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY? UM, ON, LET'S SEE, 6.3 0.20 APPLICABILITY, WHICH WAS ALL STRUCK OUT.
UM, F SO THE, ABOUT THE EEA REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS FOR, UM, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITIES, HOSPITALS, HOTELS, BLAH, BLAH, SHALL SUBMIT AN EMERGENCY EVACUATION ANALYSIS.
SO THAT'S STRICKEN, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT CAPTURED ANYWHERE ELSE.
AND I DO THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE REFERENCE IS, UM, IN OLD APPLICABILITY 6.320, UM, OR NO, IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S UNDER GENERAL TIA REQUIREMENTS THE NEXT ONE.
UM, AND SO IT'S LETTER CAPITAL, LETTER F, UM, RIGHT THERE.
SO THE EMERGENCY EVACUATION, UM, ANALYSIS THAT WAS, THAT WAS KIND OF SOMETHING FROM, FROM THE OLD, FROM THE OLD ORDINANCE AND WASN'T SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN REALLY REQUIRED.
I MEAN, TECHNICALLY IT WAS IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT HADN'T BEEN REQUIRED OVER THE YEARS.
SO IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE, UM, THAT ISN'T PART OF LIKE THE STANDARD DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, UM, STANDARDS FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY.
UM, SO SINCE IT HADN'T REALLY BEEN BEING ASKED FOR IN QUITE QUITE A WHILE, OKAY.
UM, FROM THE COUNTY STANDPOINT, UM, THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE INCLUDED.
TYPICALLY WHAT IT WOULD BE IS YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE EMERGENCY EVACUATION ROUTES AND JUST SAY, WELL, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL, THIS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD TAKE THIS ROUTE TO THIS ROUTE TO THIS ROUTE.
SO IT WASN'T, UM, IT WASN'T, UM, FROM THE STAFF AT THE TIME, IT WASN'T AS, AS MEANINGFUL AS, AS IT WAS BASICALLY JUST IDENTIFYING AN EMERGENCY EVACUATION AROUND THE TRAFFIC SITE.
THERE, THERE WASN'T ANY ANALYSIS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IT SEEMS OBVIOUS, LIKE IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SPELLED OUT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN OBVIOUS PART OF THE TIA YEAH, WELL, YOU HAVE, WELL, YOU JUST HAVE THE, THE EMERGENCY EVACUATION ROUTES ARE WHAT THEY ARE.
AND THEY'RE ESTABLISHED BY THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, NOT BY THE TRAFFIC FOLKS.
AND SO IT WAS BASICALLY WHAT YOU WERE DOING IS YOU'RE TAKING KIND OF WHAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED BY A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT IN THE, IN THE COUNTY AND SAYING, LIKE, JUST SAYING, HERE, THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
SO WE, THAT'S WHY IT WAS TAKEN OUT.
AS I SAID, IT HADN'T, IT HADN'T BEEN INCLUDED IN TRAFFIC STUDIES IN QUITE A WHILE, UM, IN THE COUNTY.
UM, JUST A CLARIFICATION, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, 6.3 0.30 TRAFFIC STUDY, PREPARATION AND OR REVIEW.
SO LETTER E, THE PROJECT CIVIL ENGINEER SHALL DESIGN ONSITE VEHICLE CIRCULATION, QUEUING AND PARKING PATTERNS, SO AS NOT TO INTERFERE WITH THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, ET CETERA.
THE LAST, UM, SENTENCE IN THAT GRAPH IS CROSS ACCESS SHALL BE REQUIRED BETWEEN PARCELS WHERE APPLICABLE.
AND MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU MEAN PARCELS IN ONE DEVELOPMENT OR PARCELS TO GO BACK TO WHAT KEVIN WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, BUT IN, IN TWO LIKE DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS? SO TYPICALLY I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT CROSS PARCEL.
SO TYPICALLY WHAT THAT IS, AND I'LL JUST, KEVIN, GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF ONE IN A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THERE'S, THERE'S A GAS STATION ON A CORNER.
AND THERE'S A RETAIL DEVELOPMENT GOING IN NEXT TO IT.
AND, BUT BASICALLY WHEN THE GAS STATION WAS BUILT, THEY HAD TO KIND OF ADD LIKE A LITTLE CONNECTOR TO POTENTIALLY CONNECT TO THE ADJACENT PARCEL IN THE FUTURE.
SO IT'S USUALLY, IT'S A ADJACENT, WHEN WE SAY CROSS ACCESS, IT'S BETWEEN ADJACENT PARCELS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY OWNED.
THEY'RE NOT OWNED BY THE SAME PERSON.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ASKING.
IT'S SO TO ENCOURAGE TO ENCOURAGE YOU DON'T, IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT ALL CROSS ACCESS DOESN'T ALWAYS, ISN'T ALWAYS APPROPRIATE.
AND THAT'S WHERE IT SAYS WHERE WE'RE APPLICABLE, APPLICABLE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE USES AREN'T, AREN'T COMPLIMENTARY, SO YOU WOULDN'T WANT THAT.
BUT IN, IN ADJACENT PARCELS THAT WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, YOU WOULD WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO TRAVEL, NOT GET BACK TO THE MAIN ROAD.
THEN GO BACK INTO THE, THE RETAIL RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
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LAST QUESTION.UM, I DON'T KNOW THE PLANNING TIMELINE OF NEW SCHOOLS, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT THE VERY END OF THE 6.3 0.70, THE EXPIRATION OF A TIA.
AND SO, UM, ITEM FOUR IS IF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT DICTATES A CHANGE IN LAND USE OR TRAFFIC DISTRIBUTION FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY CONTEMPLATED WITHIN AN APPROVED, UH, TIA, THEN THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A CONSEQUENCE.
SO I MEAN, WE KNOW IN LIKE MAIL-IN BLUFF IN THAT AREA, THE SCHOOL IS NOW THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, NEW DEVELOPMENT SO ON IS, AND THE QUEING IN PARTICULAR ON ONE 70 IS AFFECTING THAT SCHOOL.
SO WHAT DO YOU ASK OF DEVELOPERS? IS IT JUST A MATTER OF COURSE THAT IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THE SCHOOL COMMITTEE OR THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT AND, AND ASK FOR A PLAN OF WHERE NEW SCHOOLS ARE GONNA BE BUILT SO THEY CAN ADJUST THEIR PLANS? HOW DOES THAT WORK? I I JUST, I'M NOT CLEAR.
I MEAN, IF A CHANGE IS GOING TO BE MADE AND THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T KNOW IT, OR SHOULD THEY KNOW IT, SHOULD YOU TELL THEM? I MEAN, I GUESS, SO IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR STUFF TO FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS.
ARE YOU SAYING FOR EXISTING SCHOOLS? NO, FOR, UH, POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, SO IN THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS, FOR EXAMPLE, SO SCHOOLS THEMSELVES HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TRAFFIC STUDY PROCESS.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE, SO THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN, THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN TRAFFIC STUDIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE DATA THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROVIDES TO THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
SO IF YOU PUT IT IN A NEW SCHOOL, THERE'S A STUDY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
IF THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S, THAT IS SOMEWHERE, SOME ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY, AND WE, WE LOOK AT A DISTRIBUTION IN AND OUT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AND, AND WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING.
ARE THEY GOING TO SCHOOLS? ARE THEY GOING TO WORK? ARE THEY GOING TO RETAIL? YOU KNOW, ARE THEY GOING WHEREVER, UM, RECREATION.
AND SO I GUESS, I GUESS I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS IF IT'S THE SCHOOLS THEMSELVES HAVE THEIR OWN TRAFFIC STUDIES OF THEIR INS AND OUTS AND, BUT THE, IF IT'S A, JUST A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S SOMEWHERE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UM, AS, YOU KNOW, DISTRIBUTE THEIR TRAFFIC APPROPRIATELY.
IF IT'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NEXT TO AN EXISTING SCHOOL, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN WE DO HAVE THEM USUALLY LOOK AT A SCHOOL PM PEAK HOUR.
SO WE, WE TALKED THE OTHER DAY ABOUT WE'VE GOT AM PEAK HOUR, THAT ONE HOUR BETWEEN SEVEN AND 9:00 PM PEAK HOUR, THAT ONE HOUR BETWEEN FOUR AND SIX.
WE ALSO, IF THEY'RE ADJACENT TO A SCHOOL OR CLOSE TO A SCHOOL, WE DO HAVE THEM LOOK AT THAT TWO TO FOUR PERIOD AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN A LOT OF THAT PEAK TRAFFIC HAPPENS.
SO, BUT THAT'S USUALLY FOR EXISTING SCHOOLS, BECAUSE WE'VE REALLY GOT THAT, THAT MUCH BETTER DATA.
YOU JUST KNOW THAT DATA YOU DON'T HAVE, IF IT'S PROPOSED, WE JUST, WE DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION AT THAT TIME.
UH, THE, THE NEW SCHOOL HAS ITS OWN TRAFFIC STUDY THAT DOES NOT GO THROUGH COUNTY PROCEDURES.
WELL, YOU WOULD DO THE, THE, ANY, ANY DEVELOPMENT HAS, WILL HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY COMPLETED.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW SCHOOL THAT'S PROPOSED, THERE'S AN ARCHITECTURE TEAM THAT, AND A CIVIL TEAM THAT'S, THAT'S DESIGNING THE SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING, THERE'S TYPICALLY A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL THAT IS REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY AND BY, RIGHT NOW BY THE COUNTY AND BY THE STATE.
AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, THE, UH, IN THE BEGINNING OF THE 6.3 0.10, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, APPROVED BY THE ADMINISTRATOR SLASH MANAGER AND HIS OR HER DESIGNEE.
I HEARD THE ANSWER LAST TIME AND I WASN'T QUITE ON BOARD WITH IT THEN WHEN YOU SAY ADMINISTRATOR MANAGER, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO'S THE HEAD OF THE, UH, TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, I DON'T, YEAH, SO TYPICALLY I THINK WE, WE WERE THINKING THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE ENGINEERING, UM, DIRECTOR WOULD GO THAT IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE THE, IT COULD BE THE A CA BUT WE WERE THINKING THAT THAT WOULD LIKELY BE LIKE THE ENGINEERING DIRECTOR.
WHOEVER BASICALLY THE, THE A CA WOULD DEEM DEEM IT TO BE.
IT'S, IT'S INTENTIONALLY KIND OF LOOSELY WRITTEN SO THAT IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE SOMEBODY IN THE ENGINEERING STAFF.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHOEVER THE, BUT IT'S NOT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
IT'S NOT THE YEAH, THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION IS THAT IT'S NOT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
IN THAT CASE, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE PUT, UH, SOME SORT OF A DEFINITION OF WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE ADMINISTRATOR MANAGER.
AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, BEGINNING SECTION SO THAT IT'S NOT CONFUSED WITH OKAY.
THE, THE OVERALL COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
THE INTENTION WAS NOT THAT IT WOULD BE THE OVERALL COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR MAKING THAT YEAH.
THAT'S, THAT'S THAT MY ONLY YEAH.
'CAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE CODIFYING HIM REMEMBER? YEAH.
AND I GET, YOU DON'T WANNA PUT SOMEBODY'S NAME THERE, SO YOU GOTTA PUT A TITLE DOWN, BUT RIGHT.
I DON'T WANT THE, THAT TITLE TO GET CONFUSED WITH WHO YOU REALLY MEAN TO BE THE PERSON WHO'S GONNA APPROVE THIS THING.
SO, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU WERE
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SAYING IS THAT WITHIN THE MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE LOOKING TO ADOPT THIS, IT CAN BE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS WITHIN THAT GOVERNMENT.SO YOU NEED TO KEEP A FAIRLY GENERIC TITLE IN THERE.
SO IT MAY, MAY EVEN BE DIFFICULT TO, TO CRAFT A DEFINITION.
I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE DETERMINED BASED ON THAT PARTICULAR JURISDICTION.
AND THAT'S A COMMENT THAT WE CAN KIND OF TAKE IN AS, AS YOU KNOW, THAT'LL GET REFINED, UM, AS IT MOVES FORWARD.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION? I, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE ONE.
IF KRISTEN, IF YOU COULD SCROLL IT TO THE BEGINNING SO I CAN GET THE CASE NUMBER PLEASE.
SO REGARDING, UM, CASE NUMBER CDPA 0 0 0 0 3 7 2 0 2 4, UM, REGARDING THE AMENDMENT TO THE DIVISION 6.3 TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THAT WE HEARD TODAY, AS WELL AS THE TESTIMONY AND LAST MONTH'S, UM, PUBLIC HEARING AND THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? IS CECILY YOU SECOND? NO, YOU DID YOU SECOND ME THAT? NO, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SECOND.
OH, YOU WERE ASKING FOR A SECOND? YES.
AND THAT'S TO INCLUDE THIS LAST LITTLE BIT WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE CLAIM CHANGE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A CHANGE, RIGHT? YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING APPROVAL FOR WHAT'S ALREADY, WHAT'S WRITTEN? THAT'S CORRECT.
I'M ASKING FOR WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.
I, I I THINK IT SHOULD BE INTENTIONALLY LEFT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW AT THEIR DISCRETION BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE I DO TOO.
ALL THESE JURISDICTIONS, YOU KNOW, FOR ROYAL HE'LL, THAT'S FINE.
THAT'S, I MEAN, IT IS JOHN, THAT YOUR INTENT YEAH.
THAT UNLESS YOU WANNA MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.
UM, I WOULD, WE'RE GONNA STEP WITH THE MOTION.
THE PROBLEM IS I CAN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING THAT FITS THE BILL, SO WE'LL JUST GO WITH THE MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION RECOMMENDATION OF THE TIA ANALYSIS.
AYE, RAISE YOUR HAND SO I CAN SEE IT, JEAN.
IT'S UNANIMOUS, INCLUDING JEAN ON THE VIDEO.
MOTION, UH, PASSES AND RECOMMENDATION WILL GO FORWARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON ALL THIS.
UH, OBVIOUS, VERY COMPLICATED JOB AND, AND THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GO REGIONAL WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS, I THINK IT'S COMMENDABLE AND I LIKE THE INTERCONNECTIVITY OF MULTIPLE DEVELOPERS.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S SORELY MISSING.
[8. TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX PROJECTS PRESENTATION]
MR. ICK, YOU'RE UP NEXT.UM, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX PROJECTION, THE PRESENTATION.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU GUYS OUR, Y'ALL ARE GETTING THE IN STRIDE BRIEF.
UM, BECAUSE WE ARE MEETING ABOUT THIS TOMORROW AT PUBLIC FACILITIES.
WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING ABOUT THAT.
SO JUST, UH, I GUESS HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW OR DON'T KNOW? I CAN TELL YOU, UM, WHAT'S INCLUDED OR, OR YOU TELL ME I CAN START FROM THE BEGINNING OR I CAN, WELL, I'VE HEARD THE PRESENTATION, SO I'M PRETTY MUCH FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR.
I'LL I'LL GIVE A QUICK SUMMATION.
SO IN GENERAL, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED? UH, COUNTY COUNCIL A, UH, DISCUSSED A TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX IN 2022.
THEY HAD A SALES TAX COMMITTEE AND THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF 10 YEARS AND $700 MILLION THE SALES TAX COMMITTEE DID.
UH, AND THEY STUDIED IT FOR ABOUT FIVE MONTHS AND MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION IN MAY OF 2022.
AND THEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER, UH, SENATOR DAVIS HAD AUTHORIZED THE GREEN SPACE SALES TAX.
SO COUNTY COUNCIL SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH GREEN SPACE FOR NOW, BUT WE'RE COMING BACK TO, TO ROADS TRANSPORTATION LATER.
SO IN 2023, UM, THEY ESTABLISHED ANOTHER SALES TAX COMMITTEE IN JULY, AND THAT COMMITTEE MET FOR A PERIOD OF MONTHS AS WELL.
AND THEN BY THE END OF THE YEAR IN 2023, THEY MADE A REVISED RECOMMENDATION OF A SALES TAX PROGRAM TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR 15 YEARS, $1.625 BILLION.
SO THAT RECOMMENDATION WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO COMMITTEE AND TO COUNCIL IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
AND COUNCIL TOOK THAT FORWARD AND THEY HAD FIRST AND SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THAT 15 YEAR PROGRAM.
UM, AT THAT TIME THEY WERE STARTING TO GET SOME, SOME FEEDBACK AND QUESTIONS AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S PAUSE AND LET'S GO AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND GIVE AN INFORMATIONAL BRIEF, UH, TO THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE HAD FIVE INFORMATIONAL SESSIONS THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF APRIL, AND THEN IT CAME BACK TO COUNTY COUNCIL
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FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION, AND IT CAME BASICALLY TO COUNCIL JUST TO GET REFERRED BACK TO COMMITTEE.UH, AND BASICALLY WHAT COMMITTEE'S ASSIGNMENT WAS, TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE HEARD IN THESE INFORMATIONAL SESSIONS, DETERMINE IF WE NEED TO MAKE ANY TWEAKS OR MODIFICATIONS, AND THEN SEND THAT BACK TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR WHAT WOULD BE A THIRD AND FINAL READING.
SO WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE IS THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE A REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT APPROVED PRIOR TO AUGUST 15TH HAS TO BE SENT TO VOTER'S REGISTRATION, AND THEN IT SHOWS UP ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.
SO COUNTY COUNCIL IS WORKING THROUGH THAT.
UM, TOMORROW THEY, THEY REFERRED IT BACK IN MAY 13TH, UM, TO PUBLIC FACILITIES IN THE END OF MAY.
WE HAD A LOADED AGENDA AND TALKED ABOUT TOO MANY OTHER THINGS.
AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDED FULL-TIME AND ATTENTION.
SO THEY CREATED A SPECIAL WORKSHOP AND THAT SPECIAL WORKSHOP IS TOMORROW AT 10:00 AM FROM 10 TO 12 TO GO INTO THE DETAILS.
AND WHAT'S PROPOSED IS, UM, THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HEARD THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY INCLUDED THINGS OF, UM, THE, THE LENGTH OF TIME, UM, WAS THAT WAS A CONCERN FOR SOME FOLKS, UM, COMPLETING SOME OF THE OLDER PROJECTS, THE 2018 PROJECTS, UH, THAT WAS A CONCERN IN BLUFFTON.
WE HEARD, UM, ABOUT BLUFFTON FIVE B.
THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY A CONCERN IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
UM, AND IN THE NORTHERN PARTS WE HEARD ABOUT PATHWAYS AND WE HEARD ABOUT, UH, DIRT ROADS.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT, THAT PUBLIC FACILITIES WILL BE CONSIDERING.
AND THEN THEY'LL BE TAKING THAT UP, LIKE I SAID, TOMORROW, UM, WHETHER THEY MODIFY, MAKE ANY TWEAKS, ADJUST ANY PROJECT AMOUNTS, AND THEN THAT'LL BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR MOST LIKELY, UH, DEPENDING ON THE, IF ANY CHANGES, IT MAY GO BACK FOR A DUPLICATE SECOND READING TO A MODIFIED SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN A THIRD READING PROBABLY TOWARDS THE END OF JUNE, 1ST OF JULY.
SO THAT IS A RECAP AND I CAN GLADLY GIVE MORE INFORMATION IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK YOU'RE THE DOCUMENTS THAT, THE MEETING I ATTENDED, UH, THE TWO, YOU GAVE US A HANDOUTS KIND OF SUMMARY.
UH, THAT I THOUGHT WAS VERY, VERY HELPFUL AND KIND OF EXPLANATORY.
UH, AND ALSO THE, YOU CAN VISIT THE BUFORT COUNTY PENNY.COM WEBSITE TO GET FURTHER UPDATES AND INFORMATION.
SO MAYBE SOMEONE FROM YOUR TEAM CAN, UH, MAYBE JUST GIVE, SEND A COPY FORWARD TO THE PLANNING FOLKS AND WE CAN GET A COPY OF THAT IF YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN THAT.
IS THE PUBLIC MEETING TOMORROW, IS THAT A PUBLIC MEETING? IT SO IT'LL BE VIDEOED.
UM, AND IT'S NOT OUR NORMAL TIME, BUT IT IS A SPECIAL MEETING.
SO IT'S AT 10 O'CLOCK FULLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND AGAIN, IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE WORKSHOP STYLE.
SO IT'LL BE MORE OF COUNCIL WORKING THROUGH WHAT THEY WANT OR A COMMITTEE WORKING THROUGH WHAT THEY WANNA SEND BACK TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
DO YOU KNOW IF IT'LL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, STREAMED IT? YES MA'AM.
IT SHOULD BE LIVE LIKE OUR REGULAR MM-HMM.
UM, WHERE THE HECK AM I HERE? BEAR WITH ME A SECOND.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO REPORT UNLESS WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESS, ANY OTHER BUSINESS.
IF NOT, I DECLARE THE MEETING ADJOURNED.