May 28, 2024 Public Facilities and Safety Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON.

LIKE TO CALL PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SAFETY COMMITTEE TO ORDER TODAY ON TUESDAY MAY 28, 2024 IF YOU'D ALL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM, WE ALSO DO HAVE A QUORUM AS WELL

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

ANY DISCUSSION THE AGENDA WILL BE APPROVED WITH NO OBJECTION AND I SEE NO OBJECTION.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES- April 22, 2024]

[6. CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD- 15 MINUTES TOTAL]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER SIX THE CITIZENS COMMENT PERIOD I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE MIKE HAGAN ,HOW ARE YOU? I'LL JUST COME ON STATE YOUR NAME AND WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AND YOU HAVE A THREE MINUTE MIKE HAGAN AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THE TAX REFERENDUM MAKE THIS REAL REAL SHORT YOU GUYS YOU ASKED YOUR OPINION YOU LISTEN TO WHAT WE HAD TO SAY.

YOU'RE TAKING AND FOR THAT WE'RE APPRECIATIVE AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR DISCUSSIONS TO FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO WITH THIS THING I READ YOU YOUR FOUR OPTIONS OKAY I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU FOCUS ON THOSE PROJECTS NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE BROAD THAT ADDRESS EXISTING PROBLEMS AND WE ALL KNOW THERE'S PLENTY OF THEM EXISTING SAFETY AND EXISTING TRAFFIC. I WOULD ASK WHAT YOU FOCUS ON ON THOSE REJECT ANY THAT ARE SIMPLY GOING TO BE ADDITIONS TO TRAFFIC LATER ON AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THOSE THAT ARE IN THERE AS WELL THE NEED FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS IS IS NOT DISPUTED BUT IT'S UP TO YOU TO MAKE THE DECISION AS TO WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO PUT OUT TO THE VOTERS AND I THINK TO BE SUCCESSFUL YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND THAT THE PROJECTS THAT YOU PUT FORTH ARE THE ONES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO KEEP TRAFFIC MOVING INTO SAFETY. OH THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE TO SAY. BUT I THINK THE SOLUTIONS ARE VITAL IF THIS THING'S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL WHATEVER YOU, YOU DECIDE. THANK YOU, MIKE.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO SIGN UP? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TODAY. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT WE WILL CLOSE THE

[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT]

CHAIRMAN CUNNINGHAM AND COMMITTEE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY WILL BE VERY BRIEF. WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE AND THEN I'M GOING TO SAY A QUICK THING AND THEN HANDED OVER TO OTHER TO BE DONE.

SO JUST QUICK TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS ON MY SIDE AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE JUST A COUPLE OF PERSONNEL UPDATES FOR YOU. SO INSIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE DIVISION THREE DEPARTMENTS AIRPORTS, PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING AND HAD A FEW CHANGES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. FIRST BEING MOST RECENT IS PUBLIC WORKS SO IN THE OTHER STEPPED DOWN FROM HIS POSITION AND WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WAS WE KNEW SPECIFICALLY I THAT THAT WAS TOO MUCH FOR ME TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYTHING THAT WAS COMING ON PUBLIC WORKS THERE ONE OF OUR LARGEST DEPARTMENTS HAD A LOT GOING ON. I WAS ALREADY KIND OF HELPING OUT ENGINEERING IN AN INTERIM FASHION AND THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING I COULD DO FOR LONG WITH THAT. SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT JOHN AND ADMINISTRATION WAS TO PUT OUT A INTERIM POSITION WHILE WE SEARCH FOR THE PERMANENT POSITION.

SO WE DID THAT WITH THE HOPE THAT WE COULD GET THAT ONE FILLED MUCH QUICKER WHETHER THAT WAS INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL TO BE DETERMINED. AND SO WE PUT THAT OUT AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AND BROUGHT BACK FRIEND OF THE PODCAST DAVE WILHELM DAVE HAD RECENTLY LEFT ABOUT SEVERAL MONTHS SIX MONTHS AGO TOOK A DIFFERENT POSITION BUT THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN CAME BACK TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND IT WORKED BECAUSE HE IS ALREADY A KNOWN COMMODITY HE KNOWS THE PROCESS SERVED AS PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR BEFORE SO JUST THANKFUL FOR OPPORTUNITY AND WHAT IT'S DONE IS IS HELPED US NOT BE NEEDY SO WE'RE AT A TIME OF NEED WHERE WE NEED

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THE SECOND ONE IS ENGINEERING SO AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE DIRECTOR ERIC CLAUSEN LEFT ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO NOW AND AS MENTIONED I'VE BEEN HELPING FILL ALONG WITH SOME OTHER CONSULTANT ENGINEERS ON THE INTERIM BASIS ENGINEERING IS BUSY BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME PERSONNEL COMPONENTS AS PUBLIC WORKS DOES. BUT WHEN NEAL LEFT IT WAS LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AND PUT SOMETHING FAST-TRACK IN THAT AS WELL.

SO WE USED THE SAME PROCESS AN INTERIM ENGINEER OR AS AN INTERIM DIRECTOR AND A PERMANENT DIRECTOR AND SO WE HAD INTERVIEWS WITH THAT AND I'M THANKFUL BRIAN BOWER, OUR INTERIM ENGINEER WE JUST HAD HE STARTED AS OF TODAY TODAY AND SO HE WAS SERVING IS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AND SIDE ENGINEER MANY YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW BRIAN.

HE'S A LOCAL GROWN AS ENGINEERING B PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER ABOUT 15 YEARS OR THE EXPERIENCE SO DEFINITELY QUALIFIED AND AGAIN HE WILL BE SERVING IN THE INTERIM CAPACITY WE WILL CONTINUE TO PUT OUT APPLICATIONS ARE ASKED FOR ON THE ENGINEERING DIRECTOR BUT THAT HELPS STEADY THE SHIP AS WELL SO THOSE ARE MY UPDATES JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A HEAD NOD TO OUR HEAD NOTICE SO IF YOU DO RUN INTO THOSE ARE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR OR ENGINEERING DIRECTOR THOSE ARE FOLKS THAT REACH OUT TO PERFECTLY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR JARED? SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT IF I MAY TO I THINK YOU YOUR SELECTION FOR THE INTERIM GREAT TAKE YOUR TIME WITH DAVE ,YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS GETTING THAT POSITION BUT DAVE WAS A IS BEEN A TRUE PERSON AS FAR AS WHERE THIS COUNTY SHOULD BE HEADING. BRIAN AS FOR ME IS REALLY RELATIVELY NEW TO ME AND WORKING WITH HIM BUT I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING ABOUT BRIAN IS THAT IF YOU CALL HIM HE WILL CALL YOU BACK. SO I APPRECIATE ABOUT BRIAN JUST WANT TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS. YEAH, THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

WOULD SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO DAVID WILHELM AND BRIAN. THANK YOU SO MUCH WHAT YOU DO WE APPRECIATE YOU. I'M HERE CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO TO TO TO LULA MCGEE. SORRY YOUR NAME WAS ON TIP OF MY TONGUE.

YOU'VE TALLULAH SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE. TALLULAH IS OUR DIRECTOR OF ANIMAL SERVICES. SHE'S GOING TO TALK WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

SO YOU SAW SOME CHANGES IN THE BUDGET AND PERSONNEL FOR THE BUDGET.

SO HER BUDGET AREA INCREASED AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE HILTON HEAD HUMANE ASSOCIATION PROVIDED ANIMAL SHELTER SERVICES ON CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY AND NOW THE COUNTY HAS REASSUME THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND WHO'S GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT WE DO WELL HOW WERE YOU SERVED IS FINE THANK YOU. SO ANYWAY AS YOU KNOW HILTON HEAD TOOK OVER THE CONTRACT AND THEN WE FACED A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH HIRING PEOPLE AFFORDABLE HOUSE CARE WHICH I'LL HEAR ABOUT. AND SO FRANNIE HAD A VERY DIFFICULT TIME TO NOT ONLY MANAGE THE ISLAND BUT ALSO THE OKATIE SO IT JUST MADE MORE SENSE BECAUSE OF THE PRESSURE ON HILTON AND WE NEED THEM TO FIX THE PROBLEM, SPAY AND NEUTER IT SO TOOK OVER THE CLEANING AND OVERSEEING OF THE SHELTER SO AND THEN MAINLY WE'RE MORE ACTIVE WITH THE PITBULL ONCE WE ASSESS HIM AND SO SHE'S STILL HELPING WE'RE STILL SHE STILL TAKES A LOT OF OUR ANIMALS SO WE STILL CONTINUE PARTNERSHIP AND THERE WAS A INCREASE IN OUR REQUEST FOR THE BUDGET FOR THIS, RIGHT? YES. BECAUSE YOU PERSONNEL'S HIGHER GOVERNMENT VERSUS NONPROFIT AND SO YES, WE DID HAVE TO INCREASE IT JUST BECAUSE OF THE PERSONNEL NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING ELSE. WE HAVEN'T INCREASED IT OVER PROBABLY TEN YEARS EXCEPT PERSONNEL. THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'VE INCREASED BUT OF COURSE YES, MA'AM. ARE YOU STILL ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE DO HOURS FROM THE DETENTION CENTER TO HELP? AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS SOME TALK OF THAT LIKE PEOPLE UNDER NONVIOLENT YEAH AND I WISH AND YOU KNOW MR. ROBINSON LOOKED INTO IT TOO IS THAT THE PROBLEM IS WHICH IS A GOOD THING WE'RE NOT PUTTING PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR LACK OF CHILD SUPPORT SO MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WE GOT WERE LACK OF CHILD SUPPORT DID USE TO GET INMATES FROM COLUMBIA AND I TALKED TO YOU KNOW AND WE'RE LOOKING INTO THAT AND THEN WE GOT AN INMATE FINISHING UP THERE NINE YEAR SENTENCE AND THEY FINISHED UP IN BEFORE BUT WE HAVE TO COMPETE AGAINST OTHER AREAS BUT SINCE COVID

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WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ABILITIES TO BRING PRIVATE TO BUILD A WILDLIFE RESOURCE CENTER WHICH WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION FOR A WHILE AND IT IS A NEED I LOVE DNR BUT AGAIN THEY HAVE ENOUGH ON THEIR PLATE SO THERE'S NOBODY TO RESPOND SO. YOU KNOW, I AND I HATE SAYING THE WORD I BUT WE DON'T DEAL WILDLIFE SO I AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I'D LOVE TO BRING UP HERE ONE DAY SO THAT YOU WOULD SEE ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT DONATE HOURS AND HOURS AND MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF INJURED WILDLIFE THAT SHOULDN'T BE EUTHANIZED.

THEY JUST NEED TO REHAB BECAUSE . A PARENT DIED OR WHATEVER BUT IT IS A BIG NEED. YEAH. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING? ALMOST 55 AND I STARTED WORKING IN COUNTY SHELTERS WHEN I WAS 16 SO TO LONG AND THERE ARE A LOT ANIMAL LOVERS HERE AND I'M TELLING YOU THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE AT 23 PEOPLE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO REACH OUT AND GET TO BUT I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT AND I WANT TO THANK YOU LIKE FRANNY AND GURDON. OH, YEAH, THEY'RE GREAT.

WHAT'S IT? IT'S A DEADLY A TEAM EFFORT AND I'M FADING SO WE NEED A YOUNGER BLOOD FOR SURE, YOU KNOW? YES, BUT BUT I DO WANT TO CONTINUE WITH WILDLIFE BY COUNTY BUT SOMETHING THAT I'VE TALKED TO MR. I'M SAD ABOUT IS THAT THAT THAT'S MY THAT'S A BIG GAP IN THE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW THAT REALLY NEEDS YEAH OKAY YEAH.

ALL RIGHT WELL THANK YOU ALL. SO FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR UNTIL I GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION IN SIN AND WILDLIFE IT WAS GREAT SHE DID NOT BRING HER RACCOON WITH HER WHICH IS GOOD AND I WAS GOING TO BRING HIM TONIGHT. YOU SHOULD HAVE.

YEAH BUT ANYWAY DID READ SOMETHING RECENTLY THAT JASPER COUNTY IS GOING TO PAIR UP WITH OUR ANIMAL CONTROL. WOULD YOU LIKE THAT? LET HIM ADDRESS.

YEAH, HE HAD THE CONVERSATION I THOUGHT I READ IT IN THE PAPER SOMEWHERE AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY. OH DON'T RUN OFF YET. YEAH THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY SO JASPER WAS SEARCHING FOR FUNDING FOR A NEW FOR A NEW CENTER.

WHAT THEY DON'T HAVE IS PROPERTY AND WHAT WE HAVE IS PROPERTY SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO JOIN FORCES AND FOR THEM TO BUILD SOME FACILITY OR SOME CENTER THAT'S CLOSE TO OUR IT BENEFIT US BOTH HAVE SHARED SERVICES I THOUGHT I READ BUT IT SOUNDED GOOD RIGHT SO FOR ME THAT SOUNDS GOOD I MEAN RIGHT ACROSS THE HIGHWAY WOULD JASPER COUNTY RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT RIGHT ACROSS RIGHT THERE HOWEVER SITE THAT OUR SHELTER IS ON RIGHT NOW HAS 13.5 ACRES OF AVAILABLE PROPERTY AS IT EXISTS THE ONE IN OKATIE. YES, YES. YES.

BUT THERE ARE SOME AT LIKE REGIONAL RIGHT WHICH WOULD YOU KNOW HELP QUITE A BIT.

YEAH I THINK WE'VE ALL READ THAT IN THE PAPER THAT THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THAT ONE IN JASPER. YES SIR. TALK TO ME MORE ABOUT THE WILDLIFE CENTER JUST MENTIONED. I MEAN COULD YOU JUST SO I CAN PUT YOU IN MY MIND WELL AND ONE THING I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE SHOW BUT YOU KNOW, I PUT AN ALARM IT SAYS WHO DO YOU CALL GET WHO IS YEAH BUT ANYWAY AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS PEOPLE CALL IN THEY HAVE AN INJURY YOU KNOW THE MOM'S DEAD BABY POSSUMS BABY RACCOONS AND THEY DON'T LIKE HEAR LET NATURE TAKE ITS COURSE AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HEAR. AND SO AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE WILDLIFE TOO. SO CAN MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE EUTHANIZED, MAKE SURE IT GETS IN THE PROPER REHAB OR STAYING BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE HANDLING VECTOR ANIMALS WHICH ARE RABIES AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT PEOPLE TAKING ANIMALS THEY SHOULDN'T BE TAKING SO WE CAN OVERSEE THAT THERE'S GOT TO BE A PLACE PEOPLE CAN BRING WILDLIFE.

THERE'S GOT TO BE IT'S JUST IN GENERAL WILDLIFE IN GENERAL. NOW I DO KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE PLACES LIKE THE RAPTORS AND THEY LOCATED I THINK THE CLOSEST ONE DO US WOULD BE AN ISLAND WHICH WHICH MEANS IF I GET A BIRD OF PREY WHICH WE DO OFTEN ESPECIALLY WITH THE GROWTH POPULATION AND WILDLIFE BEING THEY'RE GETTING HIT MORE PEOPLE ARE SEEING MORE THINGS AND SO WE HAVE TO DRIVE IT ALL THE WAY TO ORLANDO AND I DON'T WANT TO COMPETE COPY WHAT

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WE'RE ABLE TO EUTHANIZE HUMANELY IN THE RAPTURE AND IN CHARLESTON THIS IS FUNDED BY WHO IT'S PRIVATE. IT'S PRIVATE AND WHICH KNOW AGAIN PRIVATE YOU CAN MAKE THIS WILDLIFE RESOURCE CENTER A PRIVATE ENTITY LIKE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE DIXIE I HOPE Y'ALL ALL KNEW THAT WAS A WILDLIFE GURU IN THIS COUNTY AND SHE PASSED AWAY AND I SAT BY DEATHBED AND SHOWED HER AN IDEA AND SHE'S SAID IT NEEDED TO HAPPEN. SO AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S THE PRIVATE DONORS THAT KNOW IT'S NEEDED. THERE'S A IF YOU DO A FEASIBLE STUDY IT IS A NEED IS NOT A ONE AND WE NEED TO DO IT AND WHERE I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD COME FORWARD AND ASSIST TO THIS CENTER, THE LAND WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE IT'S REGIONAL AND WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD ANOTHER X RAY OR ULTRASOUND I DON'T KNOW IS APPROPRIATE WITH THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE IDEA OF THE CONCEPT SOMETHING THAT SHE CAN WORK ON AND BRING BACK I DON'T SEE WHY NOT I MEAN IT'S NOTHING WE CAN VOTE ON TODAY WITH NO VISION BUT YOU SHOULD BRING THAT PLAN AT THE HEARTSTRINGS.

I'LL USE THAT I'M BRINGING REMY THE RACCOON NEXT TIME AND I WOULDN'T SEE WHY NOT THOUGH I MEAN PEOPLE BRING IDEAS FORWARD ALL THE TIME BUT THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE BALL ROLLING IS THE PERSON THAT HAS TO BE IN THAT TO BRING IT FORWARD TO US, YOU KNOW? BUT BUT YOU KNOW, WILL AND I WILL BRING THE REHAB WITH ME BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS DAY LONG TIME. I WILL SAY ONE THING NOW I'M IN SEARCH OF A SO WE NEED A LIST BUT I'M A TRAITOR FOR THE RACCOON THAT'S HANGING AROUND MY HOUSE.

OKAY BUT IT HIM SHE CHANGED HER RACCOON LIVES HER OH YEAH DON'T DO THAT IT'S NOT YEAH DON'T EVER DO YEAH IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I NEVER WANT YEAH YOU DON'T JUST WANT TO KNOW YOU JUST LIKE I BRING YOU A DOG. I APPRECIATE IT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR NO, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

[8. UPDATE PRESENTATION ON WIMBEE CREEK FISHING PIER]

WE WILL MOVE ON TO NUMBER EIGHT THEN WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON WENDY CREEK FISHING PIER.

ALL RIGHT. SO LAST FACILITIES COMMITTEE WE TALKED ABOUT THE BROAD RIBBON FISHING PIER AND AND THIS WEEK OR THIS MONTH WE'RE TO TALK ABOUT THE WINDY CREEK FISHING PIER. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN YEARS.

WE'VE HAD SOME SOME DUE DILIGENCE DONE ON THIS. WE WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE NOT AS FREQUENT BUT WE'VE SOME MAINTENANCE ON THIS AS WELL.

AND EVEN THOUGH MY JUST PASSED THE FIFTH GRADE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT BUT AGAIN UH COMING BACK TO THIS IDEA BECAUSE AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE BROAD RIVER FISHING PIER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IT WAS ON THIS LAST LIFE THIS ONE IS BEYOND IS LIFE. SO THIS THIS PIER IN DIRE NEED OF NOT JUST REPAIR BUT DEMOLITION AND SO I KNOW WE PROBABLY HEARD ABOUT PEOPLE TRYING TO UTILIZE THE PIER OUT IN PUBLIC. CURRENTLY IT IS CLOSED OFF THE LAST PORTION OF AND THEN THE STEPS HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK BRIAN AND BILL BARNER TO COME UP HERE AND GIVE A PRESENTATION SPECIFICALLY WHERE THAT IS.

WE DID A REPORT BACK IN 2020 I BELIEVE AND THEY CAN UPDATE YOU ON THEIR REPORT AND THE STATUS AND THEN KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK FOR DISCUSSION. SO SIMILAR BROAD RIBBON FISHING PIER YOU GUYS GAVE FEEDBACK ON ON WHAT TO WORK ON. WE'D ASKED FOR SIMILAR FEEDBACK AFTER TODAY'S PRESENTATION ON THIS WINDY CREEK FISHING PIER AND SO WITH THAT BILL FOR YOU I'LL START SIR IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THEY CAN TURN DOWN THEIR MIC A LITTLE BIT SO IT'S NOT GOING THAT RIVER FOR THEM IN THE BACK IS A POSSIBLE YES. THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY? SO SEE, A MONTH AGO I WAS IN HERE TALKING ABOUT BROAD RIVER FISHING PIER.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE WHEN WE CREATE FISHING PIER TODAY IT BE A VERY SIMILAR FORMAT JUST TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE HISTORY OF SOME OF THE STUDIES WE'VE DONE SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO TO MOVE MOVE FORWARD. SO THERE'S A PICTURE OF THE PIER AND IT'S IT'S ON WINDY CREEK. IT'S AN OLD IT'S AN OLD RAILROAD TRESTLE. SO THESE ARE THERE AREA SO THAT'S A VIEW OF THE END OF THE

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THE SUPERSTRUCTURE WAS WAS IN POOR CONDITION AND THAT WAS PARTIALLY DUE TO THE TO THE DAMAGE WITH THE THE SUBSTRUCTURE. SO THE SUBSTRUCTURES, THE FOUNDATION ELEMENTS, THE PILINGS AND THE BENCH THAT SUPPORT THERE WAS WIDESPREAD DETERIORATION AND THERE FIRE DAMAGE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A LITTLE ARSON ACTIVITY OUT THERE WHAT BUT THE PIER CAUGHT ON FIRE.

ONE OF THE VENTS CAUGHT ON FIRE, THE STEEL SUPERSTRUCTURE SETTLED INTO THE FOUNDATION.

I HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT AND I'LL SHOW YOU. AND SO THAT'S WHY THE RATING OF THE SUPER SUBSTRUCTURE EFFECT OF THIS THE SUPERSTRUCTURE AND THEN AS FAR AS EVERYTHING ELSE AT SITE THAT'S KIND OF NON STRUCTURAL RELATED ALL OF THE THE SAFETY FENCING IS IN BAD CONDITION ALL THE LIGHTS AND LUMINAIRES AND SAFETY FEATURES ARE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE AND THERE'S SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL EROSION GOING ON AS WELL.

SO IN 2019 THE OVERALL CONDITION WAS WAS RATED AS POOR TO SERIOUS AND THAT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NATIONAL BRIDGE INSPECTION STANDARD. SO JUST A COUPLE OF PICTURES A PICTURE IN THE UPPER LEFT IS A PICTURE THE DECK IT'S JUST SOME SOME CRACKS.

THE UPPER RIGHT IS PORTION THAT IS BLOCKED OFF FROM USE. SO JUST PAST WHERE THAT FENCE IS IS WHERE THE FOUNDATION CAUGHT AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT IN THIS PICTURE BUT THE DECK IS STARTED TO SETTLE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE BEAMS HAVE HAVE STARTED TO TO SETTLE AND THERE'S THE FENCE IN THE LUMINAIRES THAT THAT I WAS SHOWING YOU THOSE ARE JUST VANDALISM ON SITE. AND THEN HERE'S HERE'S PICTURES OF THAT THE STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS IN THE UPPER LEFT WHAT YOU SEE THERE THAT'S A FOUNDATION ELEMENT THAT'S CALLED A PILE BENT AND SO THAT'S OF A FOREST OF TIMBER PILES WITH TIMBER MEMBERS ON TOP OF THEM AND THEN THE PLATE THE ACTUAL GIRDER OF THE BRIDGE SITS ON TOP OF ALL THE PICTURE TO THE UPPER RIGHT IS IS WHERE YOU SEE THAT'S THAT BEARING PAD THAT STEEL BEARING PAD SHOULD BE SHOULD BE LEVEL THAT'S WHERE THE ACTUAL GIRDER OF THE BRIDGE TO REST YOU CAN SEE THAT SETTLEMENT AND DETERIORATION OF THE BENT. THE FIRE DAMAGE HAS CAUSED DISPLACEMENT OF THAT BEARING. ONE OF THE REASONS IS SO SIGNIFICANT THAT THIS STRUCTURE IS IN TERM IN ENGINEERING TERMS WE CALL THIS A NON REDUNDANT STRUCTURE.

THERE ARE TWO GIRDERS SUPPORTING THE SUPERSTRUCTURE. IF ONE OF THOSE GIRDERS GOES THE WHOLE BRIDGE GOES. SO IT'S THERE'S NO REAL BUILT IN REDUNDANCY TO THE THE STRUCTURE ON THE LOWER LEFT YOU SEE JUST GENERAL TIMBER DETERIORATION A LOT OF MARINE BORING ORGANISMS AND JUST OVERALL ROT AND THEN THE PICTURE TO YOUR LOWER RIGHT JUST SHOWS FIRE DAMAGE SO THE FIRE DAMAGE ACTUALLY EXTENDS ALL THE WAY FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE SUBSTRUCTURE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE THE SUPERSTRUCTURE WHICH IS THE OLD RAILROAD TIES.

THEY JUST PUT A CONCRETE RIGHT OVER TOP OF THE OLD RAILROAD TIES AND SO YOU HAVE A CONCRETE AND THEN RIGHT BELOW THOSE ARE RAILROAD TIES AND THEN SO I THINK YOU KIND OF KIND OF GET THE PICTURE SO WHEN WE REALIZED IN 2019 WHAT KIND OF DETERIORATION WE WERE LOOKING AT, WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH V4 COUNTY ENGINEERING TO COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS AND SAY IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE AND MODIFY IT AND IT RETROFIT ON IT AND HAVE IT BE A VALUE TO THE TO THE TAXPAYER. IN OTHER WORDS CAN WE KEEP IT OPEN AND ALONG WITH SOME REHAB SO WE LOOKED AT WE LOOKED SEVERAL DIFFERENT REPAIR STRATEGIES AND AND WE ALWAYS CAVEATED IT BY SAYING THAT OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES SHOULD BE RIGHT SHOULD BE VETTED AGAINST A WHOLESALE REPLACEMENT OR A REPLACEMENT A SMALLER STRUCTURE. AND AND THIS IS VERY HARD TO READ ON THIS SCREEN BUT WE CAME UP WITH WE CAME UP WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THAT COULD BE DONE WITH THE PIER EVERYTHING FROM A COMPLETE REHAB TO A PARTIAL DEMOLITION TO SELECTIVE DEMOLITION.

AND THEN WE WERE LOOKING AT WHAT WAS OUR EXPECTED LIFE CYCLE OF THOSE REPAIRS AND THE PROJECTED COST AND WE LOOKED AT THAT VERSUS DEMOLITION WITH POTENTIALLY A NEW STRUCTURE AND

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SO THAT WAS IN 2020 AND THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT AND 2021 WE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER THE DEMOLITION PLANS AND THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE THE PIER AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT HAPPENED BUT THAT SOMEHOW STALLED OUT AT THAT POINT AND SO THE POINT WE'RE AT NOW IS TO COME BACK IN AND SAY WE SHOULD PICK THIS UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF AND GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE DEMO AND ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVE PLANS THAT WOULD BE OUT THERE.

SO SO MY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE RECOMMENDATIONS JUST TO UPDATE THE DEMOLITION PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS WE STARTED IN 2021 DEMOLISH THE PIER AND THEN EXPLORE OPTIONS FOR FOR IMPROVING THE SITE WHICH IS ALSO AT THE WHIDBEY CREEK BOAT LANDING AS WELL WHICH I KNOW IS ALSO RECENTLY BEEN STUDIED SO THAT THAT IS THE SYNOPSIS IN A NUTSHELL THE MODELS HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS BEFORE I DO WHAT WOULD BE THE CAN YOU HEAR ME YES SIR THIS IS CONGRESSMAN DAWSON SPEAKING THIS FISHING PIER IS IN MY DISTRICT AND AS THE WELL BEING WAS GIVEN WE ALL SEE MARINE AND WHAT CONDITION OF THIS FISHING AND AND OF ALL THE OPTIONS HAVE ALL THE OPTIONS THAT WERE GIVEN THE COST TO DO ANY KIND OF REHAB AND REPLACEMENT IS IS ACROSS DERIVATIVE OF 1 MILLION PLUS REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE TAKE AS FAR AS THE FORMAT THAT WAS GIVEN MY RECOMMENDATION IS BECAUSE OF THE POOR CONDITION AND THE LIABILITY THAT WE THE COUNTY WOULD PUT OURSELVES IN TO ACTUALLY TRY TO REPAIR THIS DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD NOT WOULD BE THAT WE JUST DEMOLISH THE WHOLE STRUCTURE AND THEN START FROM SCRATCH AND BUILD A NEW FISHING PIER FOR THE CITIZENS IN THAT COMMUNITY AND I'M SURE I HAVE BEEN THERE I COMPLETELY CONCUR YOU IT'S A IT IS A BIG LIABILITY MY UNDERSTANDING YOU SAID THERE IS IT'S PAST THE POINT OF REHAB NOW RIGHT IN MY OPINION IT IS IT'S JUST AS THEY SAY THE JUICE ISN'T WORTH THE SQUEEZE ON THIS ONE. WHAT THE COST FOR DEMOLITION? DEMOLITION IN 20 AND 20 $19 I BELIEVE WE ARE ABOUT 800 900,000 I BELIEVE THE TO MY REPORT IT WAS THE SAME COST TO REHAB AS IT WAS TO DEMOLISH AND BUILD A NEW ONE AND IT WOULD BE SLIGHTLY SMALLER TO GET OUT OF THE DEEP WATER BUT IT WAS ROUGHLY THE SAME GOAL.

SO JUST LOOKING AT YOUR SLIDE A MINUTE AGO, LOOKING AT THAT PICTURE, THE LAST ONE THAT BOAT LANDING, MR. ROBINSON IS THAT ONE OF THE ONES WE HAVE PLANS TO DO UPDATES ON CURRENTLY? IS THIS SOMETHING SHOULD CONSIDER AS ONE PROJECT TO JUST DO THE ENTIRE OR ARE WE TRYING TO DO THIS PIECE BY PIECE HERE ? I KNOW THAT WAS A PART OF THE PART OF THE PLAN I'D HAVE TO DIG INTO THAT SPECIFICALLY TO SEE WHAT THE NEEDS WERE AT WHEN BUT CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AND IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME I MEAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG YOU GUYS DO THIS I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THIS FOR CONSTRUCTION IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE. THE FUNDS ARE THERE.

YEAH. IF THE FUNDS ARE THERE IT MAKES SENSE AND.

AS BILL MENTIONED HE RECOMMENDED DOING IT A DAY AND THE THE REASONS GUEST IS SPEAKING TO AND SO WHEN WE UPDATE THAT NOW THE ANALYSIS WE'D LOOK AT WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF THE SITE WHETHER IT IS TO IMPROVE THE LANDING AT THE SAME TIME BUILD A NEW PIER OR IMPROVE SOME OF THE DOCKS THAT ARE THERE. SO WE LOOK AT ALL THAT AND COME UP WITH A WHOLE SITE PLAN THAT WOULD BEST SUIT THE NEEDS. SO I GUESS PIGGYBACKING OFF MR. DAWSON I GUESS OUR FIRST STEP IS TO OUR STAFF IS TO FIND OUT WHERE WE HAVE THE 800,000 FOR THE DEMO THAT'S GOING TO BE STEP ONE FOR LIABILITY. I'M SURE THAT'LL BE EASY FOR YOU GUYS AND THEN I GUESS THE NEXT PART IS IF WE YOUR STAFF CAN GET TOGETHER AND START ON WHAT CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS WOULD BE FOR THAT AREA AND WE GET SOME TYPE OF COST ME CAN'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS SO WE KNOW ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT IF WE ARE IN A LIABILITY SITUATION

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SO TOM, IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE AN ACTION ON TODAY OR JUST RECOMMEND STAFF TO DO IT? JUST TELL ME. YEAH, INDICATE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. THAT'S WHAT YOU DO. STAFF CAN TAKE THAT ACTION SO WILL SO STAFF WILL EVALUATE ITS AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC FROM THAT.

YES WE'LL PROTECT WILL IN THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST WE MAY HAVE TO LIMIT PUBLIC ACCESS TO THAT PIER FOR SAFETY. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. IF WE NEED TO INSTALL THE FENCE WE CAN DO THOSE AND I WILL WORK WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE STAFF TO EVALUATE THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR A DEMOLITION AND REPLACEMENT WILL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE BOAT LANDING AS WELL SIR.

YES, SIR. I WILL ADD THAT TO THAT. SO WE'RE EVALUATING THE LANDING NEEDS AT THE SAME TIME IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO SPEND SOME THOSE AT THE BOAT BOAT LANDING ITSELF TO MAKE SURE IT'S FUNCTIONAL AND APPROPRIATE BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION ON THE PIER OUTSIDE OF THE SAFETY ISSUES WE'LL CERTAINLY ADDRESS THAT.

SO MR. THIS IS IN YOUR AREA IS THIS BOAT LANDING HIGHLY USED? YES, SIR, BY ALL MEANS.

AND I WAS I WAS WAITING TO CHIME IN I WAS GOING TO ASK IF AT ALL POSSIBLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT WE COULD DO IT INDEPENDENT OF ONE OR THE OTHER TO KEEP THE OLD OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC WHILE WE DO THE REPLACEMENT AND THE REPLACEMENT OF THE OF THE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. YEAH WE SHOULD ACCOMPLISH THAT. OKAY.

THANKS. I THINK WE WOULD JUST THE BIGGEST THING FOR US TO DO ALSO I'D PROBABLY JUST THE FUNDING DONE AT ONE TIME SO THAT'S CLEAN AND JUST CAN GET THAT PART MOVED ON SO THERE'S THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF THAT ONE WE HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THEM AND THEY'RE NOT WAITING OH YOU'RE JUST DOING THE PIER BUT NOT THE RAMP.

IF WE CAN GET THE FUNDING ALL SQUARED THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN YOUR AREA AND LET THEM KNOW I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THEM WAITING LONG IF WE WHEN WE DO GO CLOSE DOWN THIS PIER WITHOUT AN ANSWER OF NEXT STEPS ,I DON'T KNOW WHAT A REALISTIC TIMELINE IS TO BE TO GET SOME TYPE OF ANSWERS ON THE PIER ITSELF OF HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE FOR US TO DECIDE WHEN WE'RE STARTING DEMO AND WHEN WE CAN START REBUILDING.

BUT I'M SURE THAT HIS CONSTITUENTS IF IT IS HIGHLY USED ARE GOING TO WANT TO ANSWER SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO TRY TO STRESS TO AT LEAST GET SOME ANSWERS TO THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, YOU JUST KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE AND WE WILL BE INITIATED. I THINK. WELL, SOME OF THE SOME OF THE PUSHBACK THAT WE MIGHT GET BUT YOUR POINT YEAH WELL WE'LL WE'LL DO THAT WITH ANYTHING ELSE MR. DAWSON I'LL MOVE. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THEM? YES, MA'AM. BILL ANY CHANCE YOU CAN SEND YOUR DIVERS DOWN THERE TO FIND A CACHE OF CACHE THAT WE CAN? I AM THE DIVER, MA'AM. AND IF I FOUND A CACHE OF CACHE WE'RE ALREADY WITH THE OTHER ONE AND NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE.

IF YOU FIND SOME, LET US KNOW WHEN HE'S GOING TO KEEP YOU IN BUSINESS FOR A WHILE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE IT.

THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION TODAY WITH SOME DIRECTION AND

[9. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING A PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY’S ACTIVE PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES]

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO NUMBER NINE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE COUNCIL, A RESOLUTION ADOPTING A PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY'S ACTIVE PARKS RECREATION FACILITIES. I KNOW.

ARE YOU? GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSELOR ERIK BROWN PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR. HOW YOU GUYS DOING? FEEL GOOD.

GOOD. I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT A PRESENTATION OF THE FINAL DRAFT

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YEAH. YEAH, MAN GOOD. NO WORRIES, MR. CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH YOU TODAY. MY NAME'S MARK BAKER PRINCIPAL WITH WHAT AND PARTNERS? THEODORE SERVED AS THE PRINCIPAL IN CHARGE OF THE PROJECT. IT'S VERY EXCITING US TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE PLAN REPORT AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING UP THE POWERPOINT PART IN JUST A MINUTE. SO YEAH, IT'S BEEN A FUN PROCESS AND A LOT OF VERY EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES FOR COUNTY AS SHOWN BY AS YOU SAID, FUN BY THE SEA.

IT HAS BEEN HAS BEEN REALLY I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF FUN WITH THIS PROGRAM.

SOMEONE'S GOING TO ASK FOR MONEY BY THE SO SHE WANTS TO SHARE WAS THIS A TEN YOU'RE PLAYING FOR $100 MILLION ABOUT THAT YEAR AGO YEAH YEAH. YEAH.

OKAY YOU GOT A WATERPARK HERE, RIGHT? YEAH.

REQUIRED. YES. THANK YOU.

FIRST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE TEAM WOODEN PARTNER SERVED AS A CONSULTANT ON THIS PROJECT AND A GREAT TEAM OF NOT JUST LOCAL CONSULTANTS COLIN OUR LOCAL WE LIVE ON HILTON HEAD BUT WE DO PARKS THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHEAST AND ARE WORKING ON SEVERAL PARKS FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY AS WELL AS THE CITY OF BEAUFORT BLUFFTON AND OTHER TOWN OF HILTON AND OTHER COMMUNITIES. SO WE'RE WE'RE HERE. WE LIVE HERE.

PARKS AND REC IS IMPORTANT TO US AND OUR FAMILIES SUPPORTING US.

IT'S BEEN NEXT PRACTICE IT PROS CONSULTING RECREATION PLANNERS THESE GUYS ARE DOING REC NEEDS ASSESSMENTS AND PROGRAMING THROUGHOUT COUNTRY LITERALLY THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND THEN IT'S CONSULTING AS OUR SURVEY CONSULTANT AND DATA CONSULTANT THESE GUYS ARE THIS TEAM OF RECREATION PLANNERS HIGHLY VERSED IN PREPARING RECREATION NEEDS ASSESSMENTS, ANALYZING THE DATA SO THAT IT'S RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH WE IN WHICH WE DO THE PLANS FOR. SO WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE THIS TEAM AND THIS IS OUR DRAFT REPORT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. HOPEFULLY Y'ALL HAVE HAD ACCESS TO IT.

WE PROVIDED IT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND I UNDERSTAND IT WAS MADE AVAILABLE BUT IT INCLUDES OUR PLANNING PROCESS AND DOCUMENTS THE STEPS THAT WE TOOK AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS. THIS IS THE FIRST COUPLE OF PAGES WHICH IS THE TABLE OF CONTENTS YOU'LL THERE ARE NINE ITEMS THE FIRST EIGHT ARE PART OF THE REPORT THE DATA TECHNICAL INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY WANT DO A DEEPER DOVE ON IS ACTUALLY IN THE APPENDIX IS I GUESS SECTION NUMBER NINE AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR REALLY SPECIFIC TO ALSO CHECK THAT AREA. YEAH AND IF YOU WANT A QUICK SORT OF YOU KNOW SUMMARY DO READ THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. BUT GREAT DATA IN THE REPORT AND JUST AS A REMINDER WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE BUT THIS PLAN IS A DYNAMIC REPORT IT IS NOT A STATIC REPORT AND SO IT'S INTENDED TO BE USED AS A GUIDE BY DECISION MAKERS YOURSELVES IN MOVING FORWARD OVER THE NEXT WELL OVER A TEN YEAR TIME FRAME FOR THE FOR THE PROJECT IT ADDRESSES SORT OF WHERE ARE TODAY WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO GO AND HOW DO YOU GET THERE AND IT THINGS WHEN I TALK ABOUT IT BEING A DYNAMIC REPORT IT COVERS THINGS THAT WILL CHANGE LIKE YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC DEMOGRAPHICS WILL CHANGE LAND USE PATTERNS WILL CHANGE AND AND SO AS A RESULT THE RECOMMENDATIONS NEED TO BE LOOKED AT IN THAT VEIN. YEAH TYPICALLY WE RECOMMEND RECREATION NEEDS ASSESSMENTS GET UPDATED ON A CYCLE OF EVERY FIVE YEARS.

WE'RE REALLY A SORT OF A LIVING BREATHING DOCUMENT AND AS YOUR COMMUNITY BEGINS TO GROW AND TRANSITION THEN YOU ADJUST THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS DEMOGRAPHICS ARE A BIG PART OF OUR PROCESS TO ASSESS MARKET AND RECREATION NEEDS. WE LOOK AT POPULATION, WE LOOK AT RACE, WE LOOK AT AGE, WE LOOK AT INCOME IN A NUMBER OF OTHER FACTORS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE REPORT GREAT DATA AS A BASELINE. ANOTHER PART OF OUR REPORT

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IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HELD MEETINGS WITH STAFF WITH THE ISLAND.

WE HAD A ZOOM MEETING WITH THE ISLAND FOLKS WITH THE COUNTY SPORTS COUNCIL AND WITH THE COUNTY'S PARKS AND REC ADVISORY . AND I MIGHT ADD THAT THERE WAS QUITE A BIT CONVERSATION AND INPUT. THERE WAS A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM THIS WHEN WE WENT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF EMOTION, A LOT OF PASSION AT THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. THE PROCESS AS MARK MENTIONED INVOLVED A STATEE ARTISTICALLY VALID PUBLIC OPINION SURVEY. YOU KNOW, HE MENTIONED THE WEBSITE THAT WAS SET UP.

IT IS NOT STATISTICALLY VALID BUT THE PUBLIC OPINION SURVEY THAT WE CONDUCTED IS AND WOULD REFLECT DEMOGRAPHICS AND CRITICAL INFORMATION THAT'S APPLIED TO COUNTY IT IS WITHIN PRECISION PRECISION RATE OF 5.2% AND WITH A 95% LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE OUR GOAL WAS TO ACHIEVE 300 RESPONSES AND WE GOT 351 SO FOLKS WERE EVEN MORE ENGAGED THAN WE HAD HOPED IN PROVIDING FEEDBACK TO US. AND BASICALLY WHAT THIS MEANS IS IF WE CONDUCTED THE SURVEY 95 TIMES OUT OF 100 WE'D GET VERY SIMILAR RESULTS WHICH IS VERY ADEQUATE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LEVEL OF STUDY. SO THE QUESTION QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED BY THE PUBLIC THROUGH THE PUBLIC OPINION SURVEY WERE AND OUT OF THAT WE GATHERED THE DATA WE TABULATED DATA.

THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE SLIDES I MIGHT ADD THAT POINT OUT THAT WE ASKED PARTICIPANTS HOW WOULD RATE THE OVERALL COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT OVER 8% RECOMMEND A RECOGNIZE THE DEPARTMENT SERVICES AS BEING EXCELLENT OR GOOD SO A VERY HIGH SCORE THERE THAT WHEN WE ASKED THEM WHAT THEY WERE WILLING TO FUND THIS IS ALSO A LOT OF IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO ASK THE WHERE THEIR FUNDS WOULD GO WE HAVE DATA ON THAT AND THEN WE ASK THEM HOW THEY RATED THE OVERALL ONE THAT QUITE AS GOOD AND YOU KNOW THAT MAYBE THE PARTS OF THE COUNTY ARE VERY RURAL AND NOT GETTING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THEY NEED TODAY AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS GOING FORWARD THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CATCHING UP GOING FORWARD. ANOTHER PART OF THIS STUDY IS A RECREATION PROGRAMS ANALYSIS WE THINK IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S PROGRAMING NEEDS SO THAT WHEN WE BUILD PARKS WHICH ARE THE VEHICLES FOR DELIVERING RECREATION SERVICE, RIGHT? THE PARKS ARE WHERE PEOPLE RECREATE. WE HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PROGRAM NEEDS ARE THE RECREATION PROGRAMS AND SERVICES SO THE STUDY INCLUDES THAT AS WELL. OUR STUDY ALSO INCLUDED A DETAILED INVENTORY OF THE PARKS AND THAT THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMETIMES IT WASN'T NECESSARILY PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY OWNS. IT MAY BE A FACILITY THAT YOUR LONG TERM LEASING AND OPERATING BUT WE VISITED EACH AND EVERY PARK AND FACILITY OVER A TWO DAY TIME PERIOD AND IN ADDITION TO VISITING WE CONDUCTED A DETAILED INVENTORY OF EACH OF THOSE PARKS OR FACILITIES AND YOU KNOW IF THERE WAS A BALL FIELD THERE WE INVENTORIED THAT OR A BASKETBALL OR ALL THE COMPONENT PARTS THAT CAME TOGETHER TO MAKE A PARK. WE ALSO ASSESSED THEIR CONDITION AS GOOD FAIR OR POOR AS WELL AS IT'S OF USE AS BEING LIGHT USE MEDIUM OR HEAVY USE AND I WILL DIRECT YOU TO CHAPTER FOUR OF OUR REPORT. IT DEFINES EACH OF THOSE IN MORE DETAIL AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THOSE WORK WERE RATED OR RANKED IN SYNOPSIS, WHAT WE WHAT WE OBSERVED WAS THAT AND I'M NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING YOU DON'T

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BUT WE'VE GOT THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, THE LADY'S ISLAND HELEN'S ISLAND IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY BEAUFORT BUT THERE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE AND THE POPULATION NEEDS THE THE DENSITY, THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND THE THE USER PATTERNS DIFFER SIGNIFICANTLY IN EACH OF THOSE DEMOGRAPHIC AREAS GEOGRAPHIC AREAS AND BASED ON OUR OBSERVATIONS AND OUR SITE VISITS WE CREATED SOME A SERIES OF PARK MODELS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO BEAUFORT COUNTY AND WHAT THOSE ARE USED FOR IS TO CLASSIFY EXISTING PARKS AS WELL AS MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS OR EXPANSIONS AND THAT'S DONE THROUGH LEVEL OF SERVICE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.

BUT THEY RANGE THE PARK MODELS RANGE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS WHICH ARE RELATIVELY SMALL IN SIZE. THEY CAN GO ALL THE WAY DOWN A QUARTER ACRE UP TO TEN ACRES TO COMMUNITY PARKS AND THEN REGIONAL PARKS WHICH ARE THE LARGEST OF THE PARK.

EXAMPLES OF THAT WOULD BE LIKE OSCAR FRAZIER PARK BURTON WELLS PARK BUCKWALTER PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE SITES THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE SINGLY FOCUSED SO IT WOULD BE LIKE A CENTER OR THE INDOOR POOLS THAT ARE SORT OF STANDALONE RECREATION COMPONENTS AND THEN NATURAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES AND WHILE THIS PARTICULAR REPORT FOCUSES ON THE ACTIVE USE COMPONENTS OF RECREATION, WE RECOGNIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THE NATURAL RESOURCE PARKS ARE CRITICAL TO COUNTY AND STEPHANIE NASH'S DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THE PASSIVE USE PARK PROGRAM SHE'S HEADING UP THAT EFFORT AND WE THAT AND AND ENCOURAGE CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THAT BUT OUR REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO ON ACTIVE USE FACILITIES PART OF THE STUDY INCLUDES WHAT WE CALL EQUITY MAPPING AND THIS IS AN PART OF THE STUDY.

SO AS WE ANALYZE USER PREFERENCES AND RECREATION PROGRAM NEEDS AND LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS AND PROJECTIONS OF NEED, WHAT WE DO IS MAP EVERY PARK AND BASED THE USER PATTERNS AND PREFERENCES OF THIS COUNTY. WE CAN BEGIN TO SAY EACH PARK TYPE WILL SERVE THIS AMOUNT OF POPULATION AND SO WE USE THE GIS DATABASE TO SAY HOW BIG WOULD THAT CIRCLE BE TO SERVE THAT POPULATION? SO THIS ALLOWS TO BE ABLE TO TO ANALYZE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, COMMUNITY PARK REGIONAL PARK EACH OF THOSE PARK TYPES AND BEGIN TO SEE WHERE THE GAPS ARE . WE ALSO DO THE SAME FOR FACILITIES AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS DIAMOND FIELDS WE DO IT FOR BASKETBALL COURTS, SOFTBALL SOCCER SO EACH OF THOSE ITEMS ARE MAPPED OUT AND WE USE THAT DATA TO BEGIN TO HELP US FACTOR INTO THE SORT OF PRIORITY ASSESSMENT, IF YOU WILL. AND THAT'S THIS SLIDE SHOWS ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO WITH EACH CITY AND NEXT PRACTICE IS BEGIN TO DEVELOP A INVESTMENT RATING AND WHAT THIS IS IS A SORT OF COMBINATION ALL THE ANALYSIS DATA AND SAY WHERE ARE THOSE HIGHS PRIORITIES AND WHAT SHOULD THEY BE GOING FORWARD AND IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER TWO THERE YOU GUYS WERE TODAY TALKING ABOUT THE IN THE NUMBER TWO VERY HIGH DEMAND AND THIS IS WHICH IS NOT A SURPRISE BASICALLY BECAUSE WE'RE IN A COASTAL COMMUNITY BOTH BOAT LANDINGS, ACCESS TO RIVERS, CANOE AND KAYAK AND FISHING HAVE SCORED VERY IN TERMS OF PREFERENCES AND PRIORITY RANKING AND YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER IN THE BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS SAY THAT EVERYTHING ABOVE 100 GETS THE HIGH PRIORITY THAT YOU HAVE A MEDIAN PRIORITY IN A

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SO THE RED IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY IS WHERE WE'RE UNDER SERVING.

YES, MA'AM. YES. BUT LIKE SOME OF THESE WE WERE MEETING THE STANDARD TODAY. THAT IS CORRECT. YES, YES.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF YES AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS GOING FORWARD. YES, THAT WAS THERE. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD ONE AS WELL. YEAH. COULD YOU GO BACK TO SLIDES ONE MORE SO I'M LIKE YOU WHEN YOU STARTED THIS CONVERSATION THE ONE THING WE ALL KNEW SO IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT IT'S SHOWING THAT THERE'S MORE PARKS AND RECREATION CENTERS IN NORTH OF THE BROAD THAN SOUTH OF THE BRONX. WHAT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT MEETING THE NEEDS IN NORTH OF THE BROAD EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE MORE CENTERS THAT IN KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE IS ONE CATEGORY LET'S TAKE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS FOR EXAMPLE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND SHELTERED THEY'LL IN THE BIG GO AND YOU GO AND YOU ANALYZE THOSE FACILITIES THOSE FACILITIES LIGHT THEY'RE OLD AND IN MANY CASES IN NEED OF FUNDS. NOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN OUR REPORT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE PARKS.

OKAY. AND IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED NOW IF YOU GO TO THE LADY'S ISLANDS AND SAINT HELENA, YOU'LL SEE THE SAME KINDS OF THINGS.

SO WHEN WE GET OVER INTO THAT QUADRANT WE SEE THAT THERE'S A GREATER POPULATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT THE LACK OF FACILITIES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE IN BEAUFORT IN BLUFFTON LEAVE SOME GAPS. SO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK THERE THAT'S NECESSARILY MEAN YOU'RE MEETING THE NEED WHAT'S IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PARK? WELL, IS IT MAINTAINED? AND THE OTHER THING IS WHERE SHOULD NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU AS A COUNCIL APPROPRIATE STAFFING AND PROGRAMING? SO THERE HAS ENOUGH DENSITY AND POPULATION TO SUPPORT PROGRAMING AND STAFFING AND MAINTENANCE THOSE FACILITIES. SO JUST THE FACT THAT THERE'S A PARK THERE THAT'S NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT'S SERVING YOUR NEEDS IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY .

SO IF YOU GO DRILL DOWN INTO THE NEXT THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENS AT EACH OF THOSE PARKS THAT'S WHERE YOU BEGIN TO REALLY OF THAT'S WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. AND LET ME POINT OUT ONE THING THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED ABOUT THESE EQUITY MAPS THERE TWO COLORS OF CIRCLES. YEAH, THERE ARE BROWN CIRCLES WHICH ARE WE WE ARE RECOGNIZING THAT SOME OTHER RECREATION PROVIDERS ARE PROVIDING RECREATION FACILITIES OR SERVICES. THE GREEN REPRESENTS WHAT COUNTY IS CURRENTLY PROVIDING AND SO THERE'S A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN WHAT THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBLE FOR AND WHAT OTHER FOLKS ARE PROVIDING.

SO IF YOU TAKE THIS SAME MAP AND YOU LOOK AT IT FOR REGIONAL PARKS PASSIVE KNOW ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PARK CATEGORIES YOU BEGIN TO SEE WHERE THOSE GAPS ARE AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE RECREATION PROGRAMS IN THE PRIORITY INVESTMENT RANKING YOU COULD BEGIN TO COME UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE FORWARD AND THAT IS WHERE WE REALLY DO BEGIN TO APPLY ALL OF THIS DATA AS WE AS WE GO FORWARD. NOW ANOTHER INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY COUNTY HAS A SPORTS TOURISM. WE HAPPEN TO BE IN AN AREA HIGHLY DESIRABLE FOR SPORTS TRAVELERS. PEOPLE WILL COME HERE SO AS YOU BUILD FACILITIES TO MEET YOUR CITIZEN NEEDS THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED OF US IS ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES TO TO TWEAK THOSE FACILITIES A LITTLE BIT SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO FUNCTION SPORTS

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SO THERE'S A DEFINITE BUSINESS BENEFIT THAT MANY COMMUNITIES RECOGNIZED AND WE GO INTO COMMUNITIES LIKE FLORENCE AND OTHER CITIES SPARTANBURG COUNTY WHERE THEIR EMPLOYEES HAVE THE COASTAL RESOURCES ARE ACTUALLY BUILDING RECREATION COMPLEXES SPECIFICALLY GEARED TO SPORTS TOURISM HERE. I DON'T THINK NEED TO DO THAT BUT IF YOU TAKE BERGEN-BELSEN BUCKWALTER FOR EXAMPLE AND YOU TWEAK THOSE A LITTLE BIT THERE ARE GREAT HOST SITES ALREADY BUT THEY'RE MEETING YOUR RESIDENT NEEDS SO THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT AND.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE FOUND WITH THIS STUDY THAT I'LL TOUCH ON THOSE IN JUST A SECOND BUT WE MET WITH THE COUNTY COUNCIL GREATER THE GREATER BEAUFORT PORT ROYAL CONVENTION BUREAU CENTER SCHOOL SPORTS ALLIANCE SPORTS EPA OTHER STAFF OBVIOUSLY PROVIDED VERY IMPORTANT INPUT. WE LOOKED AT BUCKWALTER AND BURT WELLS.

IS IT RELATED TO TOURNAMENT OPPORTUNITIES THERE AND THERE'S ALREADY SOME THINGS HAPPENING THAT ARE BEING PLANNED AT BUCKWALTER FOR EXAMPLE THERE'S ARTIFICIAL TURF WHICH IS BEING PLANNED AND DEVELOPED FOR THAT AND SO AS YOU LOOK AT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN WE ANALYZE THE IMPACTS AS IT RELATED TO TEAM SPORTS AND THEN ARCHERY BEACH VOLLEYBALL PICKLEBALL AND OTHER THINGS. WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT IN THE RECTANGULAR SPORTS OPPORTUNITY THERE'S SOCCER, RUGBY AND LACROSSE AND THEN IN THE DIAMOND SPORTS OBVIOUSLY BASEBALL SOFTBALL. WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT THERE'S GREAT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE MARKET FOR PROVIDING FACILITIES WHERE YOU CAN REGIONAL EVENTS FOR ARCHERY, SHOOTING BEACH AND SAND VOLLEYBALL SPORTS. GLENN SKATEBOARDING AND BMX ROAD CYCLING THOSE FACILITIES, THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMPETITIVE VENUES ARE NOT AS WELL DEVELOPED AS BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A HUGE TREND OVER THE LAST TWO DECADES OF BRINGING ON BIG TOURNAMENT SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL COMPLEXES.

THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT HERE BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE THOSE FACILITIES AND YOU CAN DOUBLE UP FRAZIER PARK FOR EXAMPLE IN IN BLUFFTON HAS BEEN THE HOST SITE FOR DICK'S YOUTH BASEBALL FOR FOR MANY YEARS. THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF AN EXISTING FACILITY THAT'S MEETING THE CITIZENS NEEDS BUT IT'S ALSO BENEFITING THE TOURISM STRATEGY SO THERE'S SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU THERE. OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOCUS ON WHAT WE HEARD A LOT OF FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WAS WE NEED TO REINVEST IN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND BRING IT UP TO SO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE VERY HIGHLY FOCUSED ON IMPROVING EXISTING CONDITIONS AND EXISTING PARKS AND FACILITIES.

AGAIN AS I MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET THIS IS TEN YEAR REPORT WE'RE NOT FOCUSED ON A BIG NUMBER TODAY. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PHASED IN OVER A TEN YEAR TIME FRAME. BUT BOTTOM LINE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS ARE IN THE 9.9 TO $11.3 MILLION REALM COMMUNITY PARKS IN THE $37.9 MILLION REALM, REGIONAL PARKS 38 MILLION SPECIAL PURPOSE PARKS 7.1 MILLION.

SO TO YOUR POINT EARLIER WERE UNDER 100 MILLION NOT BIOMASS BUT WE'RE BETWEEN 1995 AND NOW SO WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT NEEDS IN THE BUT WE THINK WE CAN MEET THOSE NEEDS AT YOUR EXISTING PARKS FOR THE MOST PART WITH A LITTLE BIT OF LAND ACQUISITION TO EXPAND A COUPLE OF THOSE PARK SITES RATHER THAN GOING AND BUILDING ENTIRELY NEW PARKS.

BUT THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO INFILL AND TO UPGRADE AND IMPROVE THOSE FACILITIES YOUR EXISTING SITES AND IF YOU GO THROUGH THE REPORT YOU SEE VERY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION ABO ONE OF THOSE SITES TO MEET THE SO YEAH WITH THAT WE WANT TO OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PASSION.

IT'S INCREDIBLE. I WAS AT AN EVENT LAST WEEK A YOUTH EVENT, THREE MAPS I HAD A POSTER ONE WAS INCORPORATED UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY THE WHOLE THE OTHER WAS THE BRIDGES AND THE OTHER WAS THE PARKS ACTIVE AND PASSIVE IN GREEN SPACE AND BY FAR THAT WAS THAT THESE KIDS LOVED LEARNING ABOUT THAT SCENE THAT HELPED ME AS WELL BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WELCOME. YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD TO DO YEAH MR. DAWSON I KNEW FRIEND YOUR

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GOD, MR. GLOVER. WE'LL COME BACK TO HIM. OKAY JUST JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS IT SO THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME WAITING FOR THE FINAL REPORT SO IT'S HERE SO WE WAS A THANK YOU TO THAT YOU TALK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND COMMUNITY PARKS OF THOSE IN MY AREA THERE DO HAVE A NATURAL THERE TOO SO FOR FREE MONEY AND STUFF YEAH NEEDING A LOT AND THE COMMUNITY'S BEEN ASKING FOR A LOT.

I DON'T KNOW DARRYL RAISED THE QUESTION ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO AND HIS QUESTION AND HE MAY WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK IT JUST IN CASE HE DOESN'T GET IN.

OKAY. A LOT OF THE YOUNGER PEOPLE ALL THE PEOPLE THINK WE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND ASK FOR SERVICES.

PICKLEBALL IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF THAT. YOUNGER PEOPLE WHAT ARE THEY WHAT ARE THEIR CONCERNS OR WHAT WOULD BE RECREATIONAL FOR THEM? RIGHT.

YOU KNOW THE OLD TRADITIONAL BASEBALL BASKETBALL IS THAT STILL GOOD? YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT ME TO STORE THIS IN THERE RIGHT ,YOU KNOW, WE GOT WE HAVE WE DO HAVE SEVERAL SWIMMING POOLS IN THE COUNTY BUT NEVER SAW ANY MOVE LIKE A SWIM TEAM COMPETITION SO YEAH SO YEAH SO WELL I WAS ASKING THAT HE KNOW I GOING TO GET THE IN GOING YEAH SO YEAH BECAUSE THEY PUT THEY PUT THE PLAN TOGETHER SO WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE RECREATIONAL NEEDS ARE WHEN IT COMES TO OUR CHILDREN SO WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE WAS WE CREATED THE SHARED USE AGREEMENT SO I'LL BE IN FRONT OF ALL OF THE PRINCIPALS AND COUNTY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. I KNOW ONCE SCHOOL IS OUT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER NEEDS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SHARE USAGE AND THAT'S ONE WAY OF BRINGING KIDS IN THAT MAY NOT WANT TO DO SOCCER OR FOOTBALL OR BASKETBALL. SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING THEM IN GOING WE BOUGHT THE SCHOOL BOARD IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. WE SHARE THE SAME THING.

WE HAVE KIDS AND WHEN THEY'RE OUT OF SCHOOL THEY'RE PARKS AND WHEN AND WHEN THEY WHEN THEY'RE IN SCHOOL THEY IN SCHOOL WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SHARE USAGE. SO WHEN THE SCHOOLS ARE OPEN THEY'LL USE THE PARKS. WHEN THE SCHOOLS ARE CLOSED THE PARKS WILL USE THE SCHOOLS AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GET TOGETHER CREATE THIS AGREEMENT. THANK YOU, BRITTANY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S DONE. SHE SHE WILL BE PRESENTING IT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SO ONCE THAT HAPPENED WE'LL GO IN AND SURVEY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROGRAM HERE AT LYNN BROWN OR THERE'S THIS PROGRAM GOING ON HERE. AND SO WE ALSO I ALSO HAVE A STAFF PERSON THAT WILL BE GOING OVER TO THE ISLAND SO THAT THOSE JUMPS CAN BE UTILIZED WITH DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT YOU MAY NOT SEE THERE NOW. SO THIS FIRST STEP HAS ALREADY BEEN ALREADY HAS GONE FORTH AND THAT FIRST STEP IS WE'RE GETTING INTO THE SCHOOLS, WE'RE GOING TO WHERE OUR AUDIENCE IS AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE STEPS WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN IF I MIGHT DYSON'S GRAPHIC LET ME FINISH THERE, GENERAL AND THEN YOU GOT THE FLOOR.

ONE OF THE COMMENTS YOU MADE ABOUT IS CONSTRAINTS IN IN THAT ESPECIALLY IN THE RURAL AREA WHICH YOU TOOK YOU MENTIONED GOING TO THE SCHOOLS SO THAT MAY BE A MEANS OF GETTING KIDS TO A SITE THROUGH THE SCHOOLS ONLY PLUS IS A LOT OF OUR PARENTS ARE LIKE BLUFFTON AND HILTON HEAD WERE THEIR KIDS TO THESE DIFFERENT PLAY AREAS AND STUFF HOW PARENTS ARE WORKING AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE ACCESS ETC. ETC. FOR THE STUDENTS TO GET THEIR SO SO WHAT WE'VE DONE AT LYNN BROWN AND THAT WILL BE OUR MODEL SITE FOR RECREATION FOR ALL MY OTHER SITES THAT DIDN'T HAVE SUMMER CAMP AFTERCARE AND THOSE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, KARATE CLASSES AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'RE GOING TO CREATE SOMETHING SURVEYMONKEY AND IF

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IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET THE THE YOU KNOW THE BENEFIT OF OUR BUT SO WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT PROCESS BASED ON THE PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU GUYS TODAY WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE PROCESS OF BRINGING ON MORE STAFF. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE PROCESS OF PUTTING STAFF STRATEGICALLY IN PLACES THAT THEY NEED TO BE IN SO THAT WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN ACCOMPLISHING RECREATION. OKAY, MR. DAWSON IS GOING BACK TO THE RECREATION CENTERS THAT RUN AND UNDERSERVED IN THE RURAL COMMUNITIES.

I, I, I MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED IT BUT. I HEARD THE PRESENTATION DID A MENTION OF SEVERAL OF CENTER IS THE DAY OF THE VEHICLE AND I DIDN'T HEAR AND THE BURTON WILL BE ABLE TO BE COBURN WILL BUT I DIDN'T HEAR THE POINT THAT YOU MENTIONED IN THIS PRESENTATION SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONSULTANTS AND ALL OUR STAFF THERE WHILE THEY DID ALL OF THESE YEAH I GUESS I JUST FIGURED OUT A ROUTE MENTIONED.

YES AND YOU'VE GOT OF THE CENTERS AND SITES SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE SURE WE DON'T FORGET TO WATCH INCLUDED AND WE DID AND DUE TO THE LIMITED TIME THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE UP YOUR ENTIRE EVENING WE WE USED SOME EXAMPLES AND THOSE WERE NOTHING MORE THAN EXAM OF SOME OF WHAT'S INCLUDED THE FINAL REPORT BUT THOSE BUT THOSE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDED FOR THOSE CENTERS YES SIR YES SIR. OKAY.

GOOD TO I HAVE A QUESTION ALICE GO FIRST. I TO COMMEND YOU ALL FOR THE PUBLIC MEETINGS YOU HAD. I ATTENDED TWO OF THEM AND THEY WERE INTERESTING AND INCLUDED A LOT OF INPUT AND A LOT OF EMOTION AND A LOT OF EMOTION AND WILL AND ALSO WAITED FOR YEARS FOR THIS OF SHARED FACILITIES WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND YOU TO BE COMMENDED AND DR. RODRIGUES BECAUSE I REMEMBER WAS A TRACK THAT WAS OFF LIMITS FOR PEOPLE TO WALK ON BECAUSE WAS ON SCHOOL PROPERTY AND THAT'S SUCH AND I'M SO GLAD THAT LEGALLY WE CAN DO THIS IN AND USE THESE FACILITIES. THEY'RE SITTING THERE ALL SUMMER VACANT SO WHY NOT AND WHY NOT AND FOR OTHER THINGS PRACTICE AND OTHER GAMES.

THANK YOU TED. SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TOO.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COLLABORATION. EARLY LAST YEAR WHEN WE CAME OUT OF THE NEW PEOPLE WE WERE CHARGING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO USE BALLFIELDS RIGHT.

OKAY SO THE THAT WE WENT AWAY FROM SO I THINK IT'S GREAT WE'RE GOING TO COLLABORATE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND I'M AN EDUCATOR AT HEART SO I UNDERSTAND ABOUT AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND SO ON. MY OTHER QUESTION IS HOW MUCH DID THIS DIFFER FROM THE THE REPORT YOU GAVE US LAST YEAR IT'S OTHER THAN IT'S SHORTER NOW.

WELL, YES, THE BOUND HAS NOT CHANGED. HOW RISK CHANGED? VERY LITTLE. THE PRESENTATION THAT WE MADE TO YOU TONIGHT IS A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE MADE TO YOU LAST YEAR THAT WAS ABOUT 102 SLIDE AND TOOK I THINK ALMOST AN HOUR AND A HALF FOR US GO THROUGH. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE ALL OF YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THAT WE GAVE DRILL DOWN TO INTO A LOT MORE DETAIL THERE. THIS IS SORT OF THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF THAT BUT BUT THE REPORT AND THE FINDINGS OF THE REPORT HAVE BEEN REFINED AND FINISHED BUT REALLY NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE. IT'S A SLIGHT DECREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT WAS WAS 100 MILLION FLED LAST YEAR WAS IT. YEAH OKAY OKAY.

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BUT ONE THING THE PLAN DOES FOR US IT TELLS US THE PARTICIPATION OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO IT LETS US KNOW YOU DON'T JUST GO PUT $1,000,000 SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE PARTICIPATION IS ONLY 5% WE AS A STAFF IN AND TRY TO GET CREATIVE TO SAY HOW CAN WE GET THAT TO COME UP TO WE WANT TO ACTUALLY PUT HERE HOW CAN WE GET THOSE NUMBERS TO RISE UP TO WHAT WE ACTUALLY WANT TO BUILD IN THIS IN THIS COMMUNITY SO I'M EDUCATING THE COMMUNITIES AND I'M ACTUALLY SHARING THOSE THINGS WITH THEM. I'M SHARING DIFFERENT TYPES OF STRATEGIES THAT WE CAN USE IN ORDER TO GET RECREATION OUT SOME OF THOSE AREAS YOU PUT A GRILL OUT, YOU PUT SOME TENT SOME SOME TABLES OUT, YOU GIVE THEM THE AMENITIES THAT THEY NEED BECAUSE WHAT SOME OF THOSE AREAS MAY NEED AND THAT'S AND WE BOUGHT ACTUALLY STARTED THAT AS WELL AND I NOTICED IN MR. ROBINSON YOUR BI WEEKLY REPORT WE'RE BUYING PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH PLAYGROUND YOU'VE GOT. OKAY.

YES GOT SOME SO YEAH I NOTICED THAT IN THE REPORT. ALL RIGHT.

THEY GET INTERESTED IN THE WHOLE PRIORITY LIST ONCE WE WE REALLY FINE TUNE IT AND WE CAN GET WITH YOU KNOW, I CAN GET WITH MR. BUTTS AND WE CAN SIT DOWN AND WE CAN COLLABORATE AS FAR AS DOLLARS THAT WE MAY WANT TO TO ADD YOU GUYS FOR IN THE FUTURE WE'RE PRIORITIZING THAT WAY BASED THAT BASED ON THE NEED AND WE'RE STARTING OUT IN THAT AREA FIRST BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT INCLUDING THE 25 BUDGET. RIGHT.

OKAY. JUST WE MAKE A MOTION MARK REAL QUICK NOW THIS IS TAKING LONGER THAN NORMAL BUT IN THE LONG TERM PLAN THAT YOU'VE GOT I MEAN OBVIOUSLY A BIG PART IS IS MAKING SOME OF THESE FIELDS I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT BUT THEM ALL PURPOSE FIELDS WHEN IT COMES TO TERRAIN SURFACES SO THEY CAN BE USED FROM 6:00 IN THE MORNING TILL 10:00 SO SO SO THAT WAS A MEETING WE JUST HAD WITH THE NEW BUT WATERS FIELDS THAT'S GOING TO BE ALL WILL BE ALL PURPOSE MOVING FORWARD EVERYTHING WE DO WILL BE ALL PURPOSE BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET THE BIG BANG FOR THE BUCK WHEN . WE CAN USE IT FOR MULTIPLE MULTIPLE SPORTS. SO WHEN I SAY ALL PURPOSE I ALSO MEAN ARTIFICIAL TURF.

YES, TURF AND YES. SO THEY COULD JUST BE RIGHT. OUR FIRM IS ACTUALLY DOING IT RIGHT NOW. SO IF I'M GOING TO GIVE ARTIFICIAL SHORT TERM YES.

MR. DAWSON THEN WE HAVE TO WRAP IT UP. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW ITEMS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE TALKED AN ACTIVITY FOR PARTICULAR DOING SOME OF THE TIME THAT IF NEEDED AND I KNOW ONE SLIDE OR SPECIALIZE IN THIS PLAN AND THEN I THINK WE JUST NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND MAKE A PRIORITY AS WELL BECAUSE WE NEED TO WE NEED PROVIDE SOME ENTERTAINMENT TO KEEP SOME OF THESE CHILDREN OFF OF THIS BUILDING.

I MEAN IT WON'T SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS ON THE STREET PROBLEMS OF CONCERN BUT YOU DEFINITELY REALLY THIS SOME SOME ACTIVITIES AND I THINK THE WATER SLIDES THAT SLIDE IS THE WAY TO GO. GOOD GOOD. THANK YOU.

I JUST TO WRAP IT UP REAL QUICK THEN BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE HERE ,IT SOUNDS LIKE HAVE THERE WILL BE I'M SURE I WOULD ASSUME YOU PROBABLY MAKE IT IN A SECOND MR. GLOVER AH IT'S A

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IT GIVES US TIME TO DOVE DEEP INTO ALL HUNDRED AND SOME PAGES .

I KNOW YOU WANT TO WRAP IT UP BUT THIS IS A LIVING WILL. SO ALTHOUGH YOU GUYS ARE PROVING IT IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE CAN'T GO BACK AND SAY WE WANT TO ADD NEW FACILITY SOMEWHERE BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE KNOW JOB MONEY OR WE HAVE MONEY TO DO THAT SO IT'S A LIVING WILL SO WE CAN ALWAYS ADD THOSE THINGS TO IT. YEAH WE CAN ALWAYS UPDATE THE MASTER RIGHT CENTERS AND THE PARKS THAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING.

OKAY YEAH. SO WITH THAT SAID I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING ON MAYBE THIS SUMMER AND SO WE CAN GET A WORKSHOP DONE SO WE CAN KIND OF GIVE ENOUGH TIME FOR TO PREP FOR THE NEXT YEAR COMING UP TO SEE WHAT KIND OF BUDGET WE HAVE THAT WE CAN PUT TOWARDS PARKS AND RECREATION TO GET THAT THING CLEARED OUT BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR.

SAME PHILOSOPHY AND KIND OF HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION REFERENDUM LET'S GET IT DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR SO WE'RE NOT THE EIGHT BALL BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE SO IF WE COULD GET THAT ON THE BOOKS THAT'D BE GREAT. CAN I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MASTER PLAN? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION A SECOND THAT SECONDED BY MR. THANK YOU ANY OBJECTION AND WE HAVE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATION SO THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITH NO OBJECTION. THANK YOU ALL AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN COME TO THAT WORKSHOP AS WELL TO DO THAT WITH YOU ANYWHERE WE CAN YOU AND ASSISTING STAFF WITH PRIORITIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK ALL YOU ALL WE HAVE MULTIPLE HOUSEHOLD ITEMS THAT WE JUST HAVE TO DO TO GET THROUGH HERE AND SO WE HAVE ONE

[10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO CONVEY UTILITY EASEMENT # 904091 ENCUMBERING PROPERTY OWNED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY]

SO MOVING ON TO NUMBER TEN RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COUNCIL AN ORDINANCE THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS CONVEY UTILITY EASEMENT NUMBER 904091 ENCUMBERING PROPERTY OWNED BY DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION LISTEN SHOW AREA MR. CHAIRMAN. I'LL SECOND AND A SECOND DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? IT IS ALREADY IN THE OF DOCUMENTS AS WELL ANY OBJECTION NUMBER TEN WILL BE

[11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF DRAINAGE EASEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH DRAINAGE SYSTEMS LOCATED IN THE SHELL POINT AREA ON PARCELS R100 033 00A 0350 0000 & R100 033 00A 0116 0000]

YEAH THEY WILL YEAH I'LL SECOND THAT AND SECOND IN AS FAR AS I LOOK THIS HAS NO FISCAL IMPACT NO, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WELL NUMBER 11 WILL ALSO BE APPROVED WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF, MR. WILSON FOR WORKING ON THESE EASEMENTS AND THE STORMWATER PEOPLE.

THESE ARE NOT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH OWNERS. THEY'RE NOT EASY TO GET DONE, THAT'S FOR SURE. WE JUST SAW THAT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

[12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CONVEYANCE OF A PORTION OF PARCELS R123-018-000-0483-0000 AND R200-018-000-0257-0000 OF REAL PROPERTY FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY TO THE CITY OF BEAUFORT ASSOCIATED WITH US 21 AIRPORT AREA AND FRONTAGE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS]

NO, THIS IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ROAD PROJECT THE AIRPORT FRONTAGE ROAD ACROSS FROM WALMART WE JUST COMPLETED AND THE CITY GAINED. THE CITY IS THE ROAD THAT WE BUILT IT. THE CITY MAINTAINING AND THERE'S TWO SLIVERS OF PROPERTY THAT THE CITY THAT WE'RE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WE HAD TO PROCURE AND NOW WE'RE DEALING OVER TO THE CITY MOST LIKELY THE OTHER PROPERTIES OVER SO THEY THEY'LL BE IN CHARGE OF MAINTENANCE OF THOSE ROADS AFTER THEIR DEEDED OVER. THAT'S CORRECT.

PERFECT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THIS WILL BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION AND I SEE NO OBJECTION. NUMBER 13 RECOMMENDED APPROVAL

[13. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF PROPERTIES ENCUMBERING THE ROAD RIGHT OF WAY FOR PRIVATE SECTION OF SCHEPER LANE]

YEAH. OKAY. A SECOND AND SECOND.

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OKAY. MR. DAWSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THIS ONE? YEAH. HOW MANY HOUSES ON THIS ROAD? I THINK THERE'S ABOUT TEN OR 12. FOUR TOGETHER ON THE ENTIRE ROAD THERE'S. FOUR ON THIS SECTION. WELL, WE TAKE THEM ALL A ALL THE JUST THE FOR THE REMAINING SECTION OF THE ROAD IS ALREADY UNDER DID OWNERSHIP AND SO THIS SECTION WOULD BE COUNTY OWNED FOR AN ENTIRE PUBLICLY OWNED ROAD WE COORDINATED WITH THE CITY AND UM AND NEITHER OF THOSE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS IN THE REASON BEHIND THIS. MR. DAWSON YOU AND I DISCUSSED THIS AT GREAT LENGTH IS THE USE OF OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL BUSSES THROUGH THIS ROAD AND THAT'S WHAT'S PUTTING ON THE WEAR AND TEAR OF THE CITIZENS ROAD CAR. YOU REMEMBER THAT? OKAY.

I'M GOING TO ASSUME DO WE HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD? NO, I SEE NO OBJECTION. AND THIS WILL ALSO MOVE FORWARD AS WELL.

[14. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO COASTAL AIR TECHNOLOGIES FOR IFB #050724 BEAUFORT COUNTY DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS OFFICE HVAC REPLACEMENT]

DO I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION A SECOND. SECOND AND I SEE THE FISCAL IMPACT IS GOING TO BE 200 200,000. YES.

YEAH. SO THIS WILL HAVE TO GO TO FULL COUNCIL AS WELL.

CORRECT. YOUR COUNCIL. I HAVE A QUESTION.

ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S ONLY ONE BID THAT'S GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION.

I'M READY FOR YOUR QUESTION. YES. THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT'S PART OF A LONG TERM MAINTENANCE. THIS IS AN OUTDATED I'M NOT INTO YOUR QUESTION BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOUR QUESTION FOR THE DSN BUILDING THAT'S JUST OFF CASTLE ROCK.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AND THIS IS AN OUT OUTDATED GEOTHERMAL SYSTEM THAT'S VERY LOUD AND INEFFICIENT BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS JUST ONE BID.

SO IN THE LAST FEW DAYS I'VE DUG IN DEEP JUST TO SEE WHAT WAS THE ENGINEER'S RECOMMENDED PRICE AND AND IT WAS IN THE LOW ONE THIRTIES BID CAME IN AT 186.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION AS YOU WOULD PROBABLY THE SAME QUESTION IS WHY WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES AND SOME OF THE THINGS ARE EQUIPMENT ESTIMATES SO MORE MONEY FOR LABOR WHEN I SAY THESE ARE A LITTLE THREE AND $5,000 DIFFERENCES THAT ADD UP QUICKLY IT IS A REMOVAL OF SOME THAT OLD GEOTHERMAL PIPING. IT IS TYING INTO THAT OLD GEOTHERMAL PIPING. SO IT IS KIND OF A SPECIALTY CONTRACTOR.

NOT EVERYBODY WORKS WITH GEOTHERMAL SYSTEMS BUT AT THE SAME TIME I'M NOT HERE TO DEFEND ONE COMPANY OR ARE NOT AND THIS SYSTEM DOES WORK. IT IS OLD, LOUD AND INEFFICIENT. BUT IF YOU WOULD SO CHOOSE TO WANT TO TO GO BACK OUT YOU COULD BUT AT THE SAME TIME THIS IS WHAT THE BID IS THAT WE RECEIVED ON THE STREET.

HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN THE STANDARD 30 PLUS DAYS. HOW LONG ARE THE EXISTING? I DON'T KNOW. I DID NOT GET THAT INFORMATION BUT IT IS OPERATIONAL TODAY IS NOT THE BEST SO IT'S NOT A SITUATION THAT IS AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE THAT IT'S NOT IF IF YOU WERE TO FEEL SO WOULD FEEL BETTER TO DO IT ANOTHER WE CAN DO THAT I WOULD PREFER WE TRY TO GET MORE BIDS ONE BID IS NOT SATISFACTORY TO ME 75 OVER WHAT THE ENGINEER. YEAH.

WHEN WAS THE THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE GIVEN TO US WITHIN THE YEAR ONE BELOW ONE THIRTIES RIGHT OKAY I DO WE HAVE A MOTION APPROVE OR DENY MOTION ON THE FLOOR THERE'S A MOTION SO THAT'S TRUE. SO I GUESS WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS WE CAN TAKE WITH US. WE CAN EITHER TURN THIS DOWN WITH A VOTE OR WE CAN SEND THIS FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND IN DECIDING COUNTY COUNCIL MORE DISCUSSION THERE IF WE GAIN MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EXIST THE LIFE EXPECTANCY LEFT ON THAT HVAC SYSTEM AND DISCUSS WHAT OTHER OPTIONS WE COULD TO PUT THIS BACK BACK OUT TO BID THAT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION.

WHILE I SAID IT'S STILL OPERATIONAL IT AT THE END OF THE USEFUL LIFE AND THAT'S THE ONLY DECISION PORTION I SUGGEST MOVING IT FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL BUT MAYBE COME AND GET SOME MORE INFORMATION SOME MORE INFORMATION FOR IT. WELL CAN WE MOVE THIS FORWARD OF NO OBJECTION? ALL RIGHT. THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH NO

[15. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO THE PROPOSED 2024 TRANSPORTATION SALES AND USE TAX ORDINANCE AND REFERENDUM]

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AND SO ALL I WANT TO DO IS TALK THROUGH THOSE ELEMENTS SO NOT EVERYBODY ATTENDED ALL OF THOSE AND TO TALK THROUGH WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AND WHAT WE HEARD WE AS BEING MYSELF AND YOU GUYS AS WELL WHAT WE HEARD FROM FROM CITIZENS AT EACH WAS DIFFERENT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE AND THEN AT THE END FROM WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING ON MAY 13TH WAS STAFF COME BACK WITH SOME OPTIONS. THESE ARE NOT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF.

THESE ARE JUST OPTIONS FOR THE COMMITTEE TO DECIDE AND DISCUSS AND WORKSHOP AND ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HELP GUIDE ANY OF THAT WE'RE WILLING BUT REALLY THIS IS FOR YOU GUYS TO DISCUSS BEAT UP THE INTENT OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION AND WORKSHOPPING IS FOR YOU TO COME BACK AS AS IT WAS REFERRED FROM COUNCIL. THE THIRD READING WAS OF AN ORDER OF THE EXISTING ORDINANCE FOR DISCUSSION WITH THE INTENT THAT IF THERE IS ANY MODIFICATIONS THAT AN AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING ORDINANCE WOULD BE PROPOSED BACK COUNTY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION AND DEPENDING ON ANY OF THOSE MODIFICATIONS HOW SUBSTANTIAL OR NOT WOULD DETERMINE WE NEED TO HOST A SECOND REFER IT BACK AS A READING OF AN ORDINANCE VERSUS THE THIRD ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY AT TODAY. SO WITH THAT ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I KIND OF GO DOWN THAT ALL RIGHT. SO JUST REAL QUICK WHAT WE HEARD AT THE DIFFERENT MEETINGS SO THE FIRST ONE WE STARTED OFF IN BEFORE PORT ROYAL HERE IT WAS BASICALLY OUR FIRST ATTEMPT TO SAY HEY EVERYONE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR? AND THESE ARE THINGS WE HEARD SO PATHWAYS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING WE HAVE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL, THE NORTH RIBAUT ROAD WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT RE-IMAGINE REBUILT ROAD THAT RE-IMAGINED GOT CUT FROM THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND REBURIED IMPROVEMENTS SO ANOTHER BRIDGE TO SAINT HELENA THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR A LONG AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE DIFFERENCE IN OF PROJECTS NORTH VERSUS SOUTH ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WAS CONSIDERED AND DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD FROM CITIZENS OH THAT CONTROL. YES. ALL RIGHT.

AND NEXT WE WENT TO HILTON HEAD . ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD WAS THE CORRIDOR PROJECT IS NOT DONE AND SO WE DEFINITELY ARE AWARE OF THAT AND WORKING THROUGH THAT HOPEFULLY WE HAVE IMPORTANT MEETINGS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE 30 DAYS OR SO.

A LOT OF HOPEFUL ACTIVITY THERE . WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS. ONE THING WE DEFINITELY HEARD IN HILTON HEAD WAS THE LENGTH OF TIME. SO WE HAVE A 15 YEAR PROPOSED SALES TAX BUT LENGTH OF TIME AND THEN HILTON HEAD PROJECTS WEREN'T VERY DEFINED. WE HAD MUNICIPAL PROJECTS BUT THEY'RE THERE. THOSE FOLKS WANTED TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS IN THE AREA AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THE CORRIDOR PROJECT BEYOND THE EXISTING LIMITS IS THAT GUM TREES FOR OUR OUR GUM TREE INTERSECTION THERE SO IN BLUFFTON THE BIGGEST THING FOR WHO ATTENDED WAS THEY DO NOT WANT FIVE BE I THINK THERE WAS A WHOLE GROUP OVER THERE THAT HAD SIGNS AND DECALS ON THEIR SHIRT SO THAT WAS LOUD AND SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD AND THEN IF THE MONEY TO BE RAISED WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS WELL WE HAVEN'T COMPLETED SOME OF THE OLD PROJECTS WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN AGAIN. SHIFTING GEARS NORTHERN NORTH THE COUNTY SAINT HELENA PATHWAYS HAVEN'T BEEN COMPLETED AND THEY WANT A A PATHWAYS IS BIG SUBJECT THERE SO ONE THE PATHWAYS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN COMPLETED AND WHAT WERE THE PATHWAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO THE NEXT PATHWAYS PROPOSED AND THERE THERE'S ALSO SOME DISCUSSION ON LADY'S ISLAND PROJECTS NOT BEING COMPLETED AND NORTHERN COUNTY THIS ONE WAS WE HELD AT BATTLE CREEK HIGH SCHOOL IS A SMALLER TURN OUT BUT DIRT ROAD PAVING AS EXPECTED IN THE NORTHERN AND AREAS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT AND DISCUSSED AT THIS MEETING. SO AS A RECAP THIS IS WHERE WE TODAY AND I I AM A VISUAL I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE BUT IN ADDITION TO LOOKING IT UP I KNOW EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK IT UP ON YOUR OWN. I WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE A HARD COPY OF THIS AND THANK YOU I THOUGHT THROUGH IT. THANK YOU.

YOU MAY WANT TO FOLLOW WITH THE HARD COPY THIS IS THE HARD OF ALL THE PROPOSALS.

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WELL SO THE IDEA THAT WE HAVEN'T COMPLETED PROJECTS ISN'T NECESSARILY POOR PLANNING IN THE PROGRAM IS BLACK SWAN EVENT NOBODY EXPECTED COVID NOR THE RAMIFICATIONS THAT CAME FROM THAT AND THAT'S NOT JUST A COUNTY THING OR A SOUTH THING THAT IS A NATIONAL THING.

SO THE IDEA THAT WE'RE TO SHORE UP SOME OF THESE SHORTFALLS ISN'T BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IN 2018 WAS UNSUCCESSFUL IS BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH INFLATIONARY PRESSURES FROM A NATIONAL AND GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE . SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS ENOUGH TIME TO TALK THROUGH THESE AGES AS AGAIN WE CAME UP WITH THESE AS STAFF AND I WANT TO PRESENT THESE AS JUST DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES AND MY HOPE IS AT THE END OF THIS THAT YOU GUYS AGAIN DISCUSS THIS THE THINGS THAT YOU LIKE, THE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T LIKE IT'S BUFFET STYLE OR ALL THE CAR YOU PICK AND CHOOSE AND I HAVE A SPREADSHEET AT THE END OF THIS THAT WE GO LIVE IN ACTION AND TALK THROUGH THAT THIS IS VERY WORKSHOP. I'M GOING TO TALK THROUGH IT AND THEN STOP TALKING HOPEFULLY. ALL RIGHT. SO AS WE FLIP THROUGH OPTION ONE OPTION ONE IS THE SAME THING AS WHAT WE HAVE IS A 15 YEAR 1.6.

SO AT THE SAME TIME THE ONLY DIFFERENCE HERE THERE'S OF THINGS THAT CHANGE AND THESE WILL BE KEY DIFFERENCES THROUGHOUT ALL FOUR OPTIONS. SO THE FIRST ONE THAT WE LEARNED IS WE HAVE A LARGER DELTA IN THE US 278 PROJECT THAN 60 MILLION AND IS $190 MILLION. SO THAT INCREASE IS REFERENCED IN EVERY SINGLE OPTION.

ALSO WHAT'S REFERENCED IS GREENBELT. SO GREENBELT OR EXCUSE ME GREENBELT SO WE INCREASED HERE BUT IT'S NOT CONSISTENT I'LL TALK THROUGH THAT ONE.

ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS INCREASED IS THE TRIANGLE PROJECT SO. ONE THING THAT WE HEARD IS NOT GETTING PROJECTS DONE. THE TOTAL COST THE PROJECT IS 245 MILLION.

WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY 100 MILLION WITH A CONCEPT THAT THERE WOULD BE COSTS OPPORTUNITIES WITH JASPER COUNTY AND THEN ALSO STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDS.

THAT STILL IS THE CASE IN JASPER IS STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR SALES TAX PROPOSED SALES TAX. THE THOUGHT HERE IS LET'S TRY TO TO BASICALLY PROTECT AGAINST THE OPPORTUNITY OF NOT GETTING THAT MOST IMPORTANT PROJECT DONE.

I HAVE A QUESTION GOING BACK TO GREENVILLE. LOT OF PEOPLE I THINK THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE SAME AS GREEN SPACE AND THEY WOULD ASK ME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OFFLINE WELL HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO GREENVILLE? I MEAN LIKE I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO YOU PERSONALLY I'M NOT SURE INCREASING THAT TO 150 I I KNOW IT'S AN EMOTIONAL THING AND PEOPLE WANT TO SEE IT DONE BUT HOW YOU DO IT IS EVEN A BIGGER ISSUE SO NOT SURE 100 OH I'M NOT SURE I LIKE THE IDEA OF INCREASING IT 200 YEAH AND AND THAT DOESN'T STAY I MOVED IT IN THIS ITERATION AND IT'S CLOSER TOWARDS 10%.

YEAH AND YOU GUYS AGAIN CAN LOOK AT THAT AS COMMENT YOU'RE VERY I HEARD THIS I MEAN WE CAN

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IF I CAN INTERRUPT JUST FOR A MOMENT I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE BUT I SEE THE LADIES ON THE CORRIDOR PROJECTS OF 40 MILLION I BELIEVE I HEARD BEFORE ALL THE INFLATION HERE THAT THAT IS WHAT IT SHORT BY 40 MILLION IS THAT DON'T ACCOUNT FOR THE INFLATIONARY YEAH SO THAT NUMBER WE JUST RECENTLY DID THAT CALLED ESTIMATE SO IT'S WITHIN A YEAR OLD AS WELL AND SO IT'S AS BEST AS WE HAVE AS A COST ESTIMATE TODAY.

SO THE ONLY DIFFERENCE ON THIS AGAIN ON THE THE 15 YEAR MINUS THOSE THREE COMMON THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER SMALL ELEMENTS THAT WERE SO THE MUNICIPAL PROJECTS ANYTHING AND LET ME BACK UP ANYTHING IN YELLOW IS WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSE ANYTHING IN RED HAS BEEN UPDATED UH AS WE GET THROUGH YOU'LL SEE MORE AND MORE RED AND LESS AND LESS YELLOW. SO UM ON THE RIGHT THE MUNICIPAL PROJECTS DOWN FROM 60 MILLION TO 50 MILLION AND THEN THE SAFETY PROJECTS WENT DOWN FROM 252 TO 25 THE DIRT ROADS THIS IS ONE THING THAT WE DID HERE NORTHERN IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO PRIORITIZE BETWEEN THE RESURFACING AND THE DIRT ROADS SO SEPARATED THAT WE SEPARATED THAT IT WAS 180 MILLION SO IT HASN'T CHANGED HERE. WE JUST IT AND CALLED IT OUT SPECIFICALLY WE REDUCED THE PATHWAYS FROM 180 TO 150 RESILIENCY FROM 90 TO 50 AND TRANSPORTATION FROM 90 TO 50 OPTION ONE OPTION TWO I'LL GO THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY AND THEN YOU GUYS LEAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR YOU GUYS TO DISCUSS OPTION TO BASICALLY WENT TO YEAR PROGRAM THAT COLLECTS ANTICIPATED 1.2 BILLION AND THE GREEN BELTS MOVED FROM THE INCREASED 115 DOWN TO 110 MASS TRANSIT MOVED FROM 100 TO 90 THE MUNICIPAL PROJECTS MOVED DOWN FROM ORIGINAL 60 DOWN TO 30 AND THE SAFETY PROJECTS WERE MOVED FROM 250 ORIGINALLY TO 150 THE DIRT ROAD PAVING PROJECTS WERE MOVED, THEY WERE SPLIT OUT INTO 90 AND 90, NOW THEY'RE 50 AND 50 AND THEN THE PATHWAYS WERE REDUCED FROM 180 TO 90. ALSO IN THIS ONE THE RESILIENCY PROJECTS EVACUATION AND THE TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGIES ALONG WITH THE FUTURE PROJECTS WERE REMOVED IN THIS ITERATION WHAT WAS THE THINKING OF REDUCING THE MUNICIPAL DOWN TO 30 TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIT BACK DOWN THE 1.2 SO WHAT THE COMMON THEME IS AS YOU REDUCE YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOSE SOMETHING. YEAH AND SO ON THE NEXT ONE RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. SO THIS ONE IS STILL ABOVE A BILLION. THE NEXT ONE IS TEN YEARS IT GETS $950 MILLION SO A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN A BILLION. THE MAIN THING HERE IS THE GREEN BILLS REDUCED FROM THE ONE FIFTH OR THE IS THAT 95 MILLION NOW MASS TRANSIT WENT DOWN ANOTHER NOTCH FROM 100 TO $80 MILLION. THE SAFETY WENT DOWN FROM 250. THE MUNICIPAL PROJECTS WERE REMOVED IN THIS ITERATION AGAIN THIS IS BUFFET YOU GUYS ALL BRING STUFF BACK AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT IN JUST A SECOND. REDUCED SAFETY PROJECTS FROM 250 TO 55 MILLION. THE DIRT ROADS THEY MAINTAIN SIMILAR TO TWO FROM 90 MILLION TO 50 MILLION AS WELL AS THE RESURFACE THE PATHWAYS REDUCED FROM HUNDRED AND 80 DOWN TO 50 AND THIS VERSION AND AGAIN LIKE THE LAST OPTION THE RESILIENCY, THE TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGIES ,THE FUTURE OPTION, FUTURE PROJECTS ARE REMOVED. OPTION FOUR IS THE EIGHT YEAR PROGRAM. SO THIS IS THE THE PROGRAM AS RECOMMENDED IS CLICK 725 MILLION AND THIS ONE YOU REALLY START TO SEE THE CHOP ACROSS DIFFERENT PROGRAMS SO THE GREEN BELT ON THIS ONE THE PATHWAYS PROGRAMS TO THE RIGHT IS COMPLETELY REMOVED BUT WHAT IS MOVED OVER IS THE 24 PATHWAYS WE PUT A $30 MILLION PLACEHOLDER THERE TO MAKE SURE

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I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS BRINGING IT BACK ON COUNTY.

SO I LIKE THE SECOND OPTION BACK OF MOVING IT TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND EXTEND ON TIME.

MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'D BE WILLING TO AMEND THAT AGENDA ON TO PUT IT ON MAYBE IS THAT FIRST OPTION FOR YOU? IS THAT I BELIEVE WE NEED A SUPERMAJORITY TO ADD AN OPTION ADD A NEW AGENDA IF IT'S JUST FOR DISCUSSION NO ACTION TO TAKE WELL COUNCIL REFERRED IT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE RIGHT? CORRECT FOR IT FOR RECOMMENDATION SO I DON'T I MEAN IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT TO BUT I MEAN IF YOU'RE GOING TO SEND IT BACK TO COUNCIL WITHOUT ANY RECOMMENDATION THAT PERSONALLY DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A VERY GOOD OPTION. AS GOOD AS FOR THE RECORD PROBABLY YEAH. AS FOR THE SECOND OPTION, YOU KNOW WE ADVERTISE THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING AS STARTING AT FIVE AS OPPOSED TO NO SOONER THAN NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO THE CHAIRMAN WHO OBVIOUSLY RUNS THAT THAT MEETING IS VERY PARTICULAR ABOUT STARTING STARTING COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL MEETINGS PUNCTUALLY. SO I IMAGINE HE CAN SPEAK FOR HIMSELF BUT I IMAGINE HE'S GOING TO WANT TO START IT AT FIVE AND I HATE TO SAY YEAH MAYBE A SPECIAL MEETING IS THE WAY TO GO BUT THAT MAY BE WHERE YOU ARE SIR.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT IT AND JUST I DON'T WANT TO CUT THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW HONESTLY THERE'S GOING A LOT OF CHANGES THAT SOME OF US ARE GOING TO MAKE. I KNOW WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE SO I CAN TELL YOU ANYTHING ON HERE THAT ALLOWS FUNDING FOR A NEW ROAD I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

I THINK THAT'S BEEN PUBLIC. IT'S BEEN PRETTY CLEAR SO AND I KNOW MR. DAWSON IS GOING TO WANT TO DISCUSS THE START ROAD AND SO ON SO I REALLY DON'T WANT TO CUT THOSE SHORT.

CAN WE PULL SOME FOR A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING? YEAH LET ME CERTAINLY SOMEWHERE AROUND LIKE I MEAN IT'LL BE ONLINE 10 A.M. FOR A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING AND LET ME SAY IT'S A TIMELINE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET IT WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY AND AND BEAR THIS IN MIND AND YOU KNOW Y'ALL ARE REALLY GETTING DOWN TO THE WIRE. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ORDINANCE THE REFERENDUM TO VOTERS REGISTRATION NO LATER THAN AUGUST 15TH AND YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND ASSUMING THAT IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE YOUR OWN AND PROCEDURES REQUIRE SUCH AN ORDINANCE TO BE CONSIDERED THE SECOND READING RIGHT SO THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A THIRD READING AND UNDER STATE LAW YOU CAN'T HAVE YOU MUST A MINIMUM OF SEVEN DAYS BETWEEN SECOND AND THIRD READING SO ALL OF THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW WHAT ABOUT JUNE 3RD? DOES THAT GIVE US ENOUGH TIME? THIS WOULD BE FOR OTHER FACILITIES OR SHOP.

YEAH. I MEAN WE THINK WE COULD DO IT AS A WORKSHOP.

NO BECAUSE AGAIN TAKE ACTION OUT OF A WORKSHOP SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A SPECIAL COURT MEETING, CORRECT? SO IT HAS TO BE A SPECIAL COURT MEANING I HAVE NO PROBLEM.

THE THIRD HONESTLY I HAVE NO PROBLEM. WE DO IT THIS WEEK.

WE HAVE TO HAVE 24 HOURS ADVERTISE A MEETING CORRECT. DO WE HAVE ANY AVAILABILITY FOR THURSDAY OR FRIDAY OF THREE DAYS OF WORK FOR ME TO FILL WORK FOR ME I'M GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN JUNE 3RD IS THE GREEN MEETING AT 10:00 IN THE MORNING.

YEAH. YEAH. WHAT'S WRONG WITH JUNE 3RD

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YOU'RE TALKING MAY MAY. OH I'M SORRY. YES, CORRECT MAY 30TH MAY 30TH DO BUT WHAT TIME? 10 A.M. I WOULD NEED A RECOMMENDATION FIRST TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MEET MAY 30TH AT 10 A.M. IN SECOND PLACE ALSO THANK YOU IN A DISCUSSION I CAN'T BE THERE SIR I'M NOT I'M DOING BALLET RECITAL SO FIRST PRIORITY ALL RIGHT THIS WILL BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION THEN. ALL RIGHT, I SEE NO OBJECTION.

I MEAN, IS THERE NOBODY BETTER FOR YOU? I'M GOING TO BE GONE THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY? I HAVE TO DO RECITAL AND HIP HOP AND ALL THAT.

FINE. I GOT YOU. I MEAN, I'M NOT DOING IT MY ARE I KNOW THAT WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUBMIT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU WANT THAT WE COULD DISCUSS AT THE MEETING? YEAH I WAS HOPING IT COULD BE NEXT WEEK SO JUNE 3RD YOU WERE THINKING WE HAVE THREE THREE WAS FINE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE TOGETHER FOR THREE DAYS.

WELL TEN OF YOU ALREADY HAVE MASON YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. CURRENTLY THAT'S THE DAY I COULD BE THERE AT 11 WITH JUNE 3RD OR OR JUNE 3RD MORE TIME 10:00 NO YOU CANNOT BE TEN.

WE HAVE THE OPTION OF EITHER TAKING IT AT THAT TIME OR IN THIS DISCUSSION AND RECONVENING TO SCHEDULE OUT A MEETING PUBLICLY TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY FOR THURSDAY OR WE HAVE TO WAIT AND WE DON'T MAKE ANY TODAY. THURSDAY WORKS FOR ME AND SO THIS MONDAY I WOULD LOVE TO ACCOMMODATE TEN BUT THAT'S WHEN I'M COMING IS HOW WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO RESCIND YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO GIVE OUR STAFF TIME? SURE. WOULD YOU AND MR. DAWSON WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO TAKE 1/2? NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU WE WILL IN DISCUSSION THEN FOR ITEM NUMBER 15 IF EVERYONE CAN START GETTING CHECKING THEIR CALENDARS TONIGHT TO SEE WHAT DAY'S WORK FOR EVERYBODY WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DONE BY NEXT WEDNESDAY THE REASON WHO WAS THE PROBLEM WITH YOU VERY WELL WE HAVE GREENSPACE COMMITTEE.

WE'LL LET THE STAFF WORK THAT OUT SO WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THAT'S COMING UP RIGHT NOW. HOW LONG IS GREEN SPACE? ONE HOUR AN HOUR.

AN HOUR? A LOT CAN WE HAVE? WE PROBABLY CAN.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN AND GET MAKE SURE EVERYBODY ELSE CAN GET TOGETHER TO DO THAT INSTEAD OF RUSHING IN DECISION RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU JARED THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE ALL HAVE THE HANDOUT SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR LIST OF QUESTIONS READY TO MAKE THAT EASY AND WE'LL GET IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC AS SOON AS POSSIBLE FOR THAT FOR THAT DID COME I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

WE DIDN'T GET TO IT. WE DON'T LIKE TO RUSH ITEMS SO WE DON'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON THAT DON'T NEED TO BE MADE OR MAKE THE WRONG DECISION. SO I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT TO

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EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO S.C. CODE 30 DASH 47 RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE OR LEGAL ADVICE RELATED TO MATTERS COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE I HAVE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. I'LL FINISH THE SECOND. ANY OBJECTION? WE ARE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.