May 22, 2024 Town of Bluffton Planning Commission

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. THIS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER WEDNESDAY MAY 22ND MAY HAVE A ROLE CONFERENCE BOARD CHAIRWOMAN AMANDA DENMARK HERE VICE CHAIRMAN FRIENDLY BUT MORE HERE COMMISSIONER MICHAEL BROCK COMMISSIONER BRUCE FORT COMMISSIONER LYDIA CROSS COMMISSIONER JIM FLYNN COMMISSIONER JASON STEWART NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT

[III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT]

[IV. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

[V. PUBLIC COMMENT]

FRED WALLIS FRED HERE FRANKLIN OKAY THEN JUST KEEP CONTINUING. WE HAVE NO OLD BUSINESS SO OH WAIT YOU HAVE ADOPTION MINUTES. I COMPLETELY WENT OUT OF ORDER THEY'RE GOING AHEAD I'M

[VII.1. Consideration of an Ordinance to Amend the Town of Bluffton’s Comprehensive Plan (“Blueprint Bluffton”) to Incorporate a Housing Impact Analysis - Public Hearing (Staff - Charlotte Moore)]

THIS IS A STATE LAW THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR TO ALLOW THE TOWN TO USE A PORTION OF ITS ACCOMMODATIONS TAX TO BE USED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF WORKFORCE ACCORDING TO THE STATE LAW. THAT'S ANYWHERE FROM 30 TO 120% OF THE COUNTY'S AMI WHICH THIS YEAR IS APPROXIMATELY $106,000. BASED ON THAT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE HOUSEHOLD IN ORDER TO OBTAIN THIS FUNDING WE HAVE TO DO A HOUSING ANALYSIS.

I BELIEVE HILTON HEAD IS FIRST IN THE STATE TO PURSUE THIS AND .

WE HAVE USED SOME OF THEIR INFORMATION FOR OUR OWN ANALYSIS WHICH HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND IT SHOULD THIS PASS BY TOWN COUNCIL WE THINK WE CAN USE APPROXIMATELY 150,000 A YEAR TO BE APPLIED FOR VARIOUS WORKFORCE HOUSING EFFORTS.

IT INCLUDES INCLUDES BEING ABLE TO ASSIST PROFIT AND NONPROFIT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WITH THEIR OWN WORKFORCE HOUSING EFFORTS AS WELL AS TO ISSUE BONDS. WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THIS PARTICULAR ANALYSIS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AS WELL AS TO THE TOURISM EXPENDITURE COMMITTEE THE TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTS IT AND ARE IS THAT IT'S SIMPLY JUST A SUBMISSION THEY'RE NOT GOING TO REVIEW IT THOROUGHLY AND MAKE ANY CHANGES TO IT THERE IS CERTAIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CRITERIA THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED THOSE THAT APPLY ARE ALL SUPPORTIVE AND SUPPORT THE VARIOUS CRITERIA INCLUDING DEVELOPING WORKFORCE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND AS WELL AS SUPPORTIVE CAPITAL STRATEGIC PLAN.

THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE IF THIS IS RECOMMENDED TONIGHT TO BIND TO THE TOWN COUNCIL WOULD BE MOST LIKELY THE JUNE 11TH AGENDA FOR THE FIRST READING AND ADOPTION OF THE AMENDMENT ON JULY TWO. HERE'S THE MOTION I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT IF NOT THE MOTION IS AVAILABLE ACTUALLY LET'S PAUSE YOU FOR 1/2.

A PROCEDURAL NOTE WE NOTICED ACTUALLY NOTICED THAT THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA WASN'T

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JUST DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING. OKAY.

I THINK IT'S WELL DONE CHARLOTTE. YES, VERY GOOD.

VERY GOOD. ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS AS WELL? I I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO INCORPORATE THE HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR I. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH

[VII.2. Consideration of Ordinances Related to Property Owned by Bryant Family, LLC, Consisting of a Total of 2.14 Acres, More or Less, Located at 30 Davis Road and identified by Beaufort County Tax Map No. R600-029-000-0028-0000 (Staff - Kevin Icard)]

SO THIS APPLICATION CAME TO US MARCH OF THIS YEAR THEY ARE PROPOSING THE 2.14 ACRES AND I'LL GO TO THE MAP HERE FOR A 100% ANNEXATION REQUESTING THIS TO GO THE TOWN'S RESIDENTIAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT THERE ATTENDING ARE THEIR INTENT IS TO CONTINUE TO TO THE PROPERTY THERE'S A MOBILE OR MANUFACTURED HOME ON IT RIGHT NOW MR. BRYANT WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS AS A FAMILY COMPOUND. HE IS A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF BLUFFTON AND WOULD LIKE TO HE OWNS THIS PROPERTY AND WANTED TO HAVE IT INTO THE TOWN LIMITS. SO AT THE MAY TOWN COUNCIL MEETING TOWN COUNCIL DID ACCEPT THE INTENT TO ANNEX AND THEY DECIDED TO FOREGO SENDING THIS TO THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE WHICH IS WHY IT IS HERE THIS EVENING. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED IT THE 2.4 ACRES AND IT IS ON DAVIS ROAD. YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY I GOT ANOTHER MAP HERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE SO IT IS LOCATED OFF DAVIS ROAD TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY IS, THE NATIONAL HEALTH CARE SITE FOR ASSISTED LIVING.

IT'S RURAL HOMES ON THE SIDE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY TO THE EAST OF IT . SO UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING I'M NOT GOING TO GO ALL OF THESE THAT ARE LISTED ON HERE THIS IS IN THE COUNTY IS THE TWO RURAL CLASSIFICATION WAS WHICH ALLOWS FOR A VERY LIMITED MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES SOME OF THESE USES YOU CAN SEE A GAS STATION GENERAL RETAIL 3500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS OF A LODGING SOME OTHER USES AS WELL IN THE PROPOSED ZONING. SO WE'RE TAKING OUT A LOT OF THOSE COMMERCIAL USES THAT YOU JUST SAW. THERE ARE SOME LIMITED COMMERCIAL AND I USE THE TERM COMMERCIAL USE VERY LIMITED IN THE SENSE OF A GROUP FAMILY DAYCARE, YOU KNOW GOLF COURSE PUBLIC MUSEUM, THINGS LIKE THAT. WHILE THAT IS CLASSIFIED AS SOME USE AS A COMMERCIAL USE IT MUST NOT NECESSARILY AN INTENSE USE.

I JUST A QUICK COMPARISON. YOU KNOW ONE OF THE CONCERNS I THINK THAT PEOPLE HAVE IS THAT UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING YOU ARE ALLOWED THE ONE UNIT FOR EVERY THREE ACRES THIS IS BEING PROPOSED TO GO TO UNITS TO THE ACRE IN THAT RESIDENTIAL GENERAL.

HOWEVER WITH SUCH A SMALL PROPERTY OF TWO ACRES LIKELIHOOD OF OF HAVING A TOTAL OF EIGHT UNITS ON THIS TWO ACRES IS IS PROBABLY A PRETTY DIFFICULT TO DESIGN SOMETHING FOR LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN LET'S SEE FUTURE LAND MAP I'VE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED IT HERE AGAIN HERE'S THE PROPERTY UP HIGHLIGHTED THE CURSOR THIS WILL NEED TO CHANGE THE SUBURBAN CLASSIFICATION THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW LIMITS TO UNITS PER ACRE.

SO WITH THAT RESIDENTIAL GENERAL WE DO HAVE IT LISTED AS FOUR UNITS PER ACRE BY RIGHT WHICH KICKS UP TO THAT LIFESTYLE HOUSING DESIGNATION. SO STAFF HAS INITIATED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT'S OF THIS THIS EVENING AND WILL CAN WORK CONCURRENTLY THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS IN ESSENCE WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE WILL UPDATE THIS COLOR TO THE

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IS THAT ALL AREA IN YELLOW BEAUFORT COUNTY AT THIS POINT SO CORRECT.

YES. SO THIS ENTIRE AREA I'M SORRY I CAN GET TO A BETTER MAP THAT MIGHT HELP REALLY THIS ONE RIGHT HERE SO THIS MIDDLE SHADE OF GREEN HERE THAT'S ALL IN THE COUNTY RIVER RIDGE ACADEMY IS IN THE TOWN AND ACROSS ACROSS THE OTHER ROAD IS BLUFFTON ALSO ? YES. SO THIS THE PURPLISH PINKISH UP HERE IS IN THE TOWN SO THIS PROPERTY IS CONTIGUOUS. IT'S OBVIOUS THIS RED LINE RIGHT HERE REPRESENTS PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE TOWN WHEREAS THIS AREA IN THIS AREA ARE IN THE TOWN OF SINCE THERE'S THERE THERE BEAUFORT NOW HAVE YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS OTHER OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY TO BE ANNEXED INTO BLUFFTON AND MY CONCERN IS IS THAT WE'RE YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS TOO MUCH RESIDENTIAL AND NOT ENOUGH COMMERCIAL IN THE TOWN THIS GOING TO BRING US MORE RESIDENTIAL? ARE THERE OTHER OR OTHER OWNERS IN THIS AREA TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING? WE HAVE HAD WE'VE HAD SOME SOME SPECULATIONS AND SPECULATIONS. I MEAN THAT'S A PHONE CALL OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN POTENTIALLY ANNEXING FOR FOUR APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

SO A MUCH HIGHER INTENSE THAN WHAT MR. BRYANT IS PROPOSING. SO WE HAVE HAD SOME BUT AGAIN WE DON'T ACTIVELY OUT TO PURSUE PEOPLE. WE CAN'T DO THAT TO SEE IF THEY'RE WANTING TO ANNEX TEN AND WE'VE HAD BESIDES THAT I HAVE HAD NO OTHER REAL INTEREST IN ANNEXATION THE AREA. OKAY I'D ALSO LIKE TO STATE THE AREA BACK HERE IT IS THERE IS NO SEWER HERE IF IN THE FUTURE IF MR. BRYANT WERE TO EXPAND ON HIS PROPERTY AND BY EXPANDING I MEAN PUTTING HOUSE OR TWO ON THERE HE WOULD HAVE TO CONNECT TO SEWER CURRENTLY IT'S SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT TO SEE BUT THERE IS A FOUR THROUGH NHC THERE IS A SEWER LINE THAT WAS KIND OF LEFT TOWARDS THE END TOWARDS DAVIS ROAD SO A CONNECTION WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE AT THAT AT THAT POINT NOW THEY WANTED TO PUT FOR OUR TO USE IN THERE YOU'D TO CONNECT TO SEWER YES YEAH THANK YOU. I'M I ACTUALLY I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM MR. BRYANT.

MR. BRYANT, WOULD YOU LIKE THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND HOW YOU CAME BY DOING THIS AND WHAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING THIS MORNING? I'D LOVE TO HEAR THE STORY BEFORE GO TO STATE YOUR NAME JOHNNY BRYANT, THE THIRD NATIVE ON MOUNTAIN RESIDENT NATIVE BORN AND RAISED HERE BLUFFTON FAMILY HILTON HEAD IN BLUFFTON AREA AND IN THE LOWCOUNTRY YOUR QUESTION WELL I WANTED OKAY I'LL DO IT THIS WAY YOU'RE IN THE COUNTY NOW YES OR HAVE YOU APPROACHED THE COUNTY ABOUT CHANGING THE ZONING? I THINK THE HILARY AUSTIN IS KIND OF DIFFICULT WITH THEM. SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE ZONING.

I TOLD HER MY INTENT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS HELP THE LOCALS.

WE KNOW WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE YOU KNOW WITH THE LOCALS BEING PUSHED OUT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO IS ACTUALLY MAKE SOMETHING AFFORDABLE FOR.

MY FAMILY THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME NATIVE BEEN HERE WAITING I WANT TO MOVE IN WITH YOU KNOW I CAN'T DO IT BUT I CAN UTILIZE WHAT I HAVE YOU KNOW I CAN UTILIZE WHAT I HAVE AND THAT'S WHAT MY INTENT TO DO IS UTILIZE WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE. WE WENT THROUGH A GREAT DEAL TO GET THIS PROPERTY BACK. IT ACTUALLY GOT IN THE TAX DEAL.

IT WAS ANOTHER FAMILY MEMBER SHE DECEASED DIDN'T HAD ALL THE PAPERWORK IN ORDER IT WENT UP.

MR. TOM JOHNSON MR. ROBERT BOX DID DUE DILIGENCE TO HELP US GET IT BACK, YOU KNOW SO I STEPPED ME AND MY WIFE. IT CAUSED A GREAT DEAL OF FINANCE TO GET IT BACK.

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KEVIN IF IF THIS WERE ANNEXED AND ZONED IN INTO BLUFFTON AND BROUGHT BACK HOME WITH THE FAMILY, WOULD THOSE DEVELOPMENT UNITS TRANSFERABLE TO A DIFFERENT PROPERTY OR SELLABLE? SO THIS PROPERTY IS BUY RIGHT MEANING THAT THOSE UNITS ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR PROPERTY.

THIS IS NOT LIKE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHERE YOU CAN BUY SELL AND TRADE WITH ANYONE ELSE. SO ANY ANY UNITS ARE ON THAT THAT PROPERTY SO HE'S ALLOWED FOUR UNITS TO THE ACRE CAN CONTINGENT UPON BEING ABLE FIT EVERYTHING IN THERE SO THERE'S NO GIVING TO SOMEONE ELSE OR ACCEPTING MORE UNITS IT'S THAT'S IT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. YES YOU KNOW THAT'S A CONCERN WE DON'T WANT TO UNDERSTATE AND I MEAN HONESTLY I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FEELS IS A WORKSHOP.

WE'LL DO IT FOR REAL NEXT MONTH . I IF IT WASN'T SOMEBODY WHO WAS BORN RAISED HERE AND SOMEBODY WHO WAS LOOKING TO HELP OUT PEOPLE, I WOULDN'T EVEN I WOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER IT. I MEAN IF IT WAS ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE COMMENT. WISE BUT YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF WHERE CHARLIE IS. MR. BRYAN I NOTICED THAT YOUR NAME IS VERY PROMINENT IN HILTON. IT IS THE SAME FAMILY IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES ON HILTON HEAD RIGHT YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING SIMILAR.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO OR? ANYBODY ON YOUR HEAD WOULD BE TRYING TO GET ALL THAT WORKED OUT RIGHT NOW OF COURSE WE DO HAVE DOWN SPANISH WELL BRYAN ROAD PROGRAM ROAD WE CAN RELEASE YOU ALL IN THAT AREA THE YOUNG MITCHELLS YOU KNOW ALL OF THE FAMILY COACHES AROUND HERE AGES EVERYBODY THAT SO YEAH I'M KIND OF WITH CHARLIE I'M IF THIS WAS ANYBODY ELSE I'D HAVE A HARDER TIME THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME LOWER INCOME HOUSING ESPECIALLY FOR THE FAMILIES OR PEOPLE WHO'VE HAD MOVE OUT OF THE OUT OF BLUFFTON THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I'D I'D BE WORRIED IF IT WAS GOING TO BE AN OUTSIDER BUILDING THOUGH. YOU KNOW, WE WENT TO RIVERVIEW FOR A LONG TIME THE YEARS THAT THAT'S HOW THE BUILDER THE LARGE YOU KNOW KIND OF YOU KNOW LIKE IT WAS A WHILE AND THE ACTUALLY YOU KNOW I KNOW THEM KNOW FROM AROUND A LITTLE GUY YOU STILL HIRED HIM? I DON'T KNOW HE'S ACTUALLY STILL THERE AND YOU KNOW WHEN I MADE THAT COLA THEY CAME TO IT . THEY'RE THE BEST WITH THEIR PROPERTY AROUND HERE SO YOU KNOW IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK THANK YOU AGAIN THIS IS A WORKSHOP SO THERE IS NO VOTE NECESSARY AND AS I STATED NEXT STEPS THIS WILL BRING THIS BACK FRONT OF YOU AT THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER THREE I DO

[VII.3. The May - 1095 May River Road (Street Naming Application): A request by Workforce State of Mind, LLC on behalf of the Town of Bluffton for approval of a street naming application. The project consists of two streets for The May neighborhood with associated townhome lots. The property is identified by tax map number R610 039 000 0498 0000 and is located at 1095 May River Road in the Residential General Zoning District. (STR-04-24-019089) (Staff - Dan Frazier)]

THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF TWO STREETS FOR THE MAIN NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ASSOCIATED TOWNHOME LOTS. THE PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED BY THE TAX MAP NUMBER IN THE AGENDA AND IS LOCATED AT 1095 MAE RIVER ROAD AND THE RESIDENTIAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT. OKAY IF THE NAME AN APPLICATION FOR THE MAE IT'S LOCATED AT TEN FIVE MAE RIVER ROAD THIS IS A A TOWN PROJECT IT IS A REQUEST BY WORKFORCE STATE OF MIND LLC ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY FOR APPROVAL OF A STREET NAME AND APPLICATION THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING OF THE FOLLOWING STREET NAMES TO BE USED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BAY PROJECT LOCATED AT TEN I THOUGHT THEY WERE BROAD. THE TWO NAMES ARE HAMILTON WAY ACCEPTED WITH NO CONFLICT AND SMALL COURT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED WITH NO CONFLICT.

THE BACKGROUND A PUBLIC PROJECT COMPOSED OF 12 TOWNHOME UNITS AND ASSOCIATED PARKING AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT WAS APPROVED ON MARCH 20 OF 2024. STREET NAME APPLICATION IS AT

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EVEN SO BEFORE WE DISCUSS I KNOW CIVIL COURT COMMISSIONER THAT OF COURSE HAS A TIME HE WANTS TO DISCUSS THIS. PLEASE FOLLOW OUR OWN IN THE FUTURE AND BRING MORE THAN THE NUMBER OF STREETS NAMES BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF AND THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING BECAUSE THERE IS A HAMILTON HILL IT'S ONLY FIVE MILES AWAY.

I UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED OR RECOMMENDED BY STAFF SO I'LL I'LL SUPPORT IT. BUT I LIKE THE COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW WETMORE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE FUTURE WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE WHICH IS GREAT BRING AN EXTRA ONE OR TWO NAMES IN CASE WE HAVE AN ISSUE SO THAT THAT WOULD BE MY STRONG RECOMMENDATION.

WELL PART OF PART OF THE REASON FOR IT WE KNOW THE REASON IS HAMILTON HILL HAMILTON WAY SOMEBODY CALLS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SAYS WE'RE ON HAMILTON THEY DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHERE TO GO BECAUSE THEY CALLED FROM THE CELL PHONE AND THERE'S NO YOU KNOW, IF WE APPROVED ONE IS THERE STILL TIME WITH THIS PROJECT TO BRING ANOTHER NAME BACK US FOR APPROVAL OR WILL THIS HOLD UP AT ALL BECAUSE THIS IS A CRITICAL IS A CRITICAL PROJECT.

WE ARE HOPING THAT WE APPROVAL ON BOTH OF THE STREET NAMES AND I UNDERSTAND BUT WHAT WHAT HAPPENS IF WE ONLY APPROVE ONE? DOES IT HOLD THE PROCESS UP WE WOULD OUR INTENT IS TO PUT THE GET THE STREET OUT THERE NOW IT WOULD IT WOULD HOLD UP PUTTING THE STREET OUT SO IT WOULD HOLD UP THE DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE TO COME BACK IN WITH THE NEW STREET NAME APPLICATION AND THE SAME WAY WE DID WE WE HAVE THROUGH THE AND I WELL I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE AS YOU AND I BOTH KNOW IN OUR OWN DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE THREE STREETS THAT START WITH THAT WORD ANCHOR AND IT CAUSES LOTS OF CONFUSION. I'M NOT GOING TO BUILD I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD YOU. I WOULD AS AN OFF LINE CONVERSATION I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN IDEA OF THE PROCESS AND WE DON'T WE JUST BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS WE DO WE TYPICALLY ASK FOR THREE STREET NAMES PER STREET A POOL OF THREE GAMES TO DRAW FROM OR APPROVED PLANNING COMMISSION ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS, MOTIONS A MOVE TO RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING STREET NAMES FOR THE MADE DEVELOPMENT HAMILTON WAY AND SMALL SCORES TO GO HAVE A SECOND SECOND MOST MOVED AND SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOST PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO I GET TO DO THAT FOR ITEM

[VII.4. Buckwalter Towne Blvd Medical Office Building (Development Plan Application): A request by Cranston, LLC on behalf of TKC CCCLV, LLC for approval of a preliminary development plan application. The project consists of a three-story, 54,000 square foot medical office building with associated parking and infrastructure. The property is zoned Buckwalter Planned Unit Development and consist of approximately 4.76 acres identified by tax map number R610 030 000 1854 0000 located within the Buckwalter Commons Phase 1 Master Plan. (DP-03-24- 019021) (Staff - Dan Frazier)]

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN. THIS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS BUCKWALTER TOWN BOULEVARD MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING REQUEST BY MATT RANDOLPH CRANSTON ENGINEERING ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER CASEY COLBY FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THE APPLICANT PROPOSES CONSTRUCTION OF A THREE STORY 54,000 SQUARE FOOT MEDICAL BUILDING WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROPERTIES ZONED FOR QUANTITY

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IT IS GOING TO BE BUILT BUILT TO THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE OF BUCKWALTER TOWN BOULEVARD IN THE EVENT THAT THAT THIS BECOMES TRUE CONNECTIVITY ROAD ALL THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IS IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THAT RIGHT OF WAY TO TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND INFORMATION SO CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 310 THREE OF THE AREA IN ASSESSING APPLICATION REVIEW CRITERIA AN EXPRESSION OF ACTION THAT CAN IMPROVE THE IS SUBMITTED APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS TABLE THE APPLICATION OR DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. TOWN STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED AND I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ONE. OKAY Y'ALL DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAN OR NOT? I'M GOING TO OPEN IT TO THE APPLICANT. OKAY.

I'M WITH THE APPLICANT. LIKE TO SPEAK SPEAK GOOD EVENING WITH PRISON ENGINEERING I THINK DID AN EXCELLENT JOB KIND OF DESCRIBING PLAN WE'RE WORKING WITH THE TOWN TO SATISFY ALL THEIR NEEDS THE DEVELOPERS, THE KEY CORPORATION I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF LARGE ACRONYM THERE BUT THEY'RE VERY EXPERIENCED WELL RESPECTED DEVELOPER THAT DEVELOPED MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE LOWCOUNTRY OF THE STATE IN THE REGION.

SO THEY REALLY DO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND CERTAINLY JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE SPECIFICALLY OKAY, WE CAN ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PARKING PLACES REQUIRED BUT YOU'VE GONE MORE THAN THAT FOR REASON WHICH WASN'T VERY CLEAR TO ME. CORRECT.

SO OBVIOUSLY IT'S A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND AS I MENTIONED THE KEY CORPORATION DEVELOPS THESE THEY HAVE A PROPOSED ALREADY VERY WELL RESPECTED MEDICAL TENANT AND THE MARKET RATE IS THEY NEED SIGNIFICANTLY PARKING SPACES IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT IT'S A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING SO NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE ALL THE ROOMS FILLED WITH PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE ARRIVING WAITING TO BE SEEN AS WELL AS PEOPLE LEAVING AND CHECKING OUT. SO BECAUSE DO THIS ALL THE TIME THEY HAVE REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TENANTS ARE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR THIS TYPE OF FACILITY AND STAFF. SO I WAS GOING TO SAY A STAFF AS WELL AND AS YOU SEE WE TRIED THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING SO OBVIOUSLY THE PATIENTS WILL BE AS CLOSE TO THE BUILDING POSSIBLE AND HAVE TO HAVE LESS TIME TO MOVE TO THE BUILDING AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE WILL PARK FURTHER AWAY AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE DIDN'T WANT TO CONNECT THAT NAME POTENTIAL ROAD CONNECTION THROUGH WE OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH THE TOWN TO PROVIDE WHAT'S REQUIRED BUT WE FELT LIKE THE LESS TRAFFIC WE CAN HAVE THROUGH THE PARKING LOT THE SAFER THE PARKING WILL BE FOR THE PATIENTS. HOW MANY ABOVE THE RECOMMENDED IS A YEAH YOU STATED IT SO THERE'S 109 REQUIRED FOR YOUR ORDINANCE AND RIGHT NOW I THINK WE'RE PROVIDING 258 SO SUBSTANTIALLY MORE DID SHOW SOME SOME PERVIOUS PARKING

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[VII.5. Maiden Lane (Development Plan Application): A request by Nathan Sturre of Sturre Engineering on behalf of the property owner Hinton Vacation Properties, LLC, for approval of a preliminary development plan application. The project proposes the development of a thirteen (13) lot mixed-use subdivision containing eleven (11) single-family residential lots, two (2) mixed-use lots, common open space, and associated infrastructure. The properties are zoned Neighborhood General – Historic District and consist of 3.58 acres identified by tax map numbers R610 039 00A 0042 0000 and R610 039 00A 042A 0000 located on the south side of May River Road west of Pritchard Street. (DP-12-23-018802) (Staff - Dan Frazier)]

THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A PROJECT CALLED MAIDEN LANE IF REQUEST BY NATHAN SERIOUS TREE ENGINEERING ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER HINTON VACATION PROPERTIES LLC FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE DEVELOPMENT OF A 13 LOT MIXED USE SUBDIVISION CONTAINING 11 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND TWO MIXED USE LOTS COMMON OPEN SPACE AND ASSOCIATED BOTH PROPERTIES. THERE'S OWN NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL DISTRICT AND CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 3.5 ACRES LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BRUIN ROAD WEST OF PRICHARD THREE HERE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IT HAS FRONTAGE ON PRICHARD STREET, FRONTAGE ON BRUIN ROAD AND FRONTAGE ON MAITLAND. COMPOSED OF THE TWO PARCELS YOU CAN SEE THE PARCEL LINE BISECTED THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SAME LOCATION THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES APPLICATION SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY VACANT AND LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BRUIN ROAD AND WEST OF PRICHARD STREET. THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A SET OF SITE PLANNING EXHIBITS AND SITE DATA AS PART OF THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION. THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO BE PHASE WITH THE FIRST PHASE BEING CONSTRUCTED ALL OF THE AMENITIES INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT ON INDIVIDUAL I'M SORRY BUT FIRST PHASE IS CONSTRUCTING ALL COMMON AMENITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT ON AN INDIVIDUAL LOT BEING IN FUTURE PHASES OF THE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WOULD NOT REQUIRE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMITTAL PRIOR TO SUBMITTING FOR A BUILDING PERMIT A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HISTORIC DISTRICT BE REQUIRED SO THEY WOULD HAVE THAT REVIEW ANY OTHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE MIXED USE LOTS WILL REQUIRE APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND ALSO HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AS THE START OF THE DRIVE GOING THROUGH. THE PROPERTY IS A SHARED ASPHALT DRIVE THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE 24 FEET OF ASPHALT WITHIN A 30 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY I THE STAFF REPORT IN SANFORD PROBABLY WROTE IT UP BASED ON THE CROSS SECTION THAT WAS PROVIDED WHICH SHOWS THAT GOING TO A GRAVEL ROAD ONCE IT GETS PAST THE MIXED USE COMMERCIAL

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SO WHEN I GET TO THAT COMMENT I'LL TELL YOU THAT THAT'S REGARDED BY ONE THAT'S INCLUDED IN IT THE STAFF COMMENTS ON THE ORIGINAL PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WERE REVIEWED AT THE JANUARY FIRST, 2024 VRC MEETING THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A RESPONSE TO COMMENTS AND REVISE THE SITE PLANS ON MARCH 26, 2024 STAFF TOOK THOSE COMMENTS BACK TO THE TO THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE ON MAY ONE, 2024 THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TO PROCEED TO THE PLANNING WITHOUT PROVIDING A SECOND READ SUBMITTAL RESPONDING TO THE SECOND BRC COMMENTS HERE IS THE THE LAND USE EXHIBIT A LITTLE CLOSER UP BRUIN ROAD IS TO YOUR THE TOP OF THE SCREEN IS MAIN LANE THE GRAY IS WELL YELLOW BECAUSE IT WOULD BE WITHIN AN EASEMENT ACROSS ONE OF THE MIXED USE PARCELS THEN IT BECOMES A A 24 FOOT ASPHALT ROAD IN ITSELF SIGN INTO MAIN LANE AND STUFF INTO THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR TO IT IT CALLS OUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL YOU CAN SEE IT BUT WE ARE SURE SHOWING A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, A 30 BY 30 CONCRETE APRON AS IT COMES IN OFF OF BRUIN ROAD SHOWING THE COMMON AREAS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT AND SO THE FIRST PHASE IS BASICALLY CREATING THE ROAD THE COMMON AREAS AND AMENITIES. THE UTILITIES WOULD BE UNDERNEATH THE ROAD. WHAT IT DOES IS IT SETS A LOT OF THE LIGHTS ARE OUR BUILDABLE LOTS BASED ON THE MANSION AND SO IT CREATES FRONTAGES FOR FOR THE TWO MIXED USE LOTS BEING PROPOSED 11 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AT THE NOT MUCH OF A CLOSER VIEW THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 310 THREE A OF THE YOUDO IN ASSESSING AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT. THESE ARE THE CRITERIA THEY READ THE I TYPICALLY HAVE THESE AS EXERCISES AFTERWARDS DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH READ THE RESPONSE FOR THE CRITERIA IF YOU WANT TO JUST DO A SYNOPSIS A QUICK OKAY WELL THE ACTUALLY WHAT IS PERTINENT IS IS CRITERIA NUMBER ONE WE SAY THE PROPOSED SITE IMPROVEMENTS DO NOT CONFORM TO THE APPLICABLE PROVISIONS PROVIDED IN ARTICLE FIVE USE ADMINISTRATOR A LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO MITIGATE ADVERSE IMPACTS TO INCOMPATIBLE AND USES THIS IS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL THEY'RE SHOWING THE RIGHT OF WAY BEING PROPOSED IS ABUTTING THE PROPERTY LINE WITH NO BUFFER WE HAVE WE HAVE IT'S IT'S JUST AN ADJUSTMENT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY TO PROVIDE THE BUFFER REQUIREMENT IS HALF THE DISTANCE OF THE BUILDING SETBACK SO A SIDE SETBACK OF TEN FEET WOULD REQUIRE A FIVE FOOT BUFFER REAR REAR OF 20 WOULD REQUIRE TEN FOOT BUFFER FOR EXAMPLE ON A CRITERIA TWO IT IS NOT WITHIN THAT SPECIFIC TO THAT LET ME GET TO THIS IS WHAT I WANT SO I CALLED OUT ONE AND FOUR IS IS CRITERIA THAT WERE NOT BEING MET THIS WAS WHEN I WAS LOOKING THE CROSS SECTION VERSUS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED THE AND SO THE COMMENT THAT WE HAD THE FINDING WAS THE PROPOSED ROAD AND CROSS SECTION DID NOT NCDOT STANDARDS THE ENTIRE PROPOSED ROAD MUST INCLUDE 24 FOOT ASPHALT ROAD THAT IS WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED SO I'M THAT THEY'RE FINE WITH THIS CRITERIA PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTION APPROVE AS SUBMITTED APPROVE WITH TABLE THE APPLICATION OR DENY THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT AND I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE ON OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST DO PUBLIC COMMENT.

HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? OH, OKAY. A THIRD VIEWING HOMES.

PRESTON BUZZARD I AT 21 PROJECT STREET IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS AND I GUESS I'M A LITTLE BIT LATE IN THE GAME I WISH I WOULD HAVE BEEN IN PREVIOUS SUBMITTALS BUT ON SUBMITTALS CERTAIN LOTS WERE SHOWN WITH GARAGES AND HOMES AND I'M AN ARCHITECT. I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR NEARLY 40

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I'VE BEEN TO PLACES LIKE THE KENT LANDS AND ARE BIG ONES. THIS IS A SMALL ONE.

THIS IS LIKE A AN INFILL AND WE USED TO DO THOSE PROJECTS. WE TESTED EVERY LAW TO SEE IF THEY WORKED. WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE AN ENGINEER WAS TRYING TO GET AS MANY LOTS AS COULD ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I'M I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS COULD BE GREAT FOR BLUFFTON FOR BLUFFTON BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WASN'T THOUGHT OUT THE IDEA OF THE COVE AND HOW THOSE WORK WITH WE LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET THE TWO LOTS THAT ARE ON PRITCHARD WITH THE COVE I CAN'T SEE HOW ANYONE COULD BUILD THERE SO WHY ISN'T THAT JUST GREEN SPACE ESPECIALLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT NOW THEY'RE GOING TO REDO PRITCHARD AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT NEW SIDEWALKS IN CURBS SO AND ALSO TREES AND HOW THEY'RE AFFECTED THERE'S A A DOCUMENT THAT SUBMITTED EARLIER THAT SHOWED THE NUMBER OF TREES AND WE CONCERNED ON HOW MANY OF THE LIGHTBULBS WERE GOING TO BE DESTROYED. SO I JUST I WANTED TO JUST COMMENT THAT I THINK THERE'S A PERFECT AND A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR BLUFFTON TO DO SOMETHING HERE AND I DON'T THINK THE WAY THIS PLAN WAS CREATED IT'S REALLY MEANT THAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. I WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE PROJECT AS WELL I'M SURE WE ALSO WILL PROBABLY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. AN ENGINEERING CIVIL ENGINEER THE PROJECT IS ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MAY HAVE A QUESTION FOR DAN BEFORE YOUR QUESTION TODAY. OKAY. DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY THAT APPLICANT DIDN'T SUBMIT ANY RESPONSES TO THE THE SECOND ROUND OF COMMENTS? THEY WOULD BE REQUESTED TO COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND MAYBE I CAN ADDRESSED ALL OF DAN IS GOING TO FOLLOW UP THAT YEAH THAT WAS MY QUESTION WHAT WERE THE COMMENTS THAT WERE NOT ADDRESSED WHAT WAS IT THE PAVEMENT THE PAVED ROAD IT WAS JUST MINOR ONES THAT CAN BE TYPICALLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT GETS RESOLVED THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS MIDDLE THEN THE ONLY REASON INCLUDED IT ON THE WRONG WAY IN THE ONLY REASON THAT THEY WERE INCLUDED AS AS CONDITIONS HERE WAS SO THAT THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEM AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL SINCE WE DIDN'T GET A RESUBMITTED THAT ADDRESS THEM EXCEPT FOR NUMBER ONE IS UNDER SECTION 37B2 IS IS A OF IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BEING MET AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BUT I WOULD SAY TWO, THREE, FOUR AND FIVE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE ALL RESOLVABLE AND WE'LL SEE THAT AT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT MIDDLE THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT IT WAS JUST ME AND I FEEL THE SAME THAT THE IDEA IS SOUND BUT IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE'RE CRAMMING SO MUCH INTO THIS IT WOULD FEEL LIKE GREENSPACE PROTECTING MORE TREES WOULD BE MY IDEAL FOR AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT THROUGH THE COUPLE OF DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HERE AND WE HAVE LAID OUT THE PLAN WITH HOMES ON IT WE BROUGHT SOME FOR DISCUSSION. YOU GOT TO BE CURIOUS WE HAVE MADE SOME YEAR WHO IS GOING TO BUILD THE HOMES ONCE THEY'RE SOLD ALL LOTS ARE BUILDABLE MAYBE EVERYONE HAS A GARAGE SOME OF THEIR HOUSES ARE OR COTTAGES OR VISITED TOWN AND STAY WITH IT EVEN IF WE HAVE A BAG LAID OUT AROUND THE TREE SPECIFIC TO TRY TO SAVE THE LARGER ONES WE COULD WE'VE WITH STORMWATER THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THE COVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WE DID A STABILIZATION ANALYSIS THAT COVE WE HAVE MET WITH ALL STORMWATER SUPPLIERS TO MAKE THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS WE ARE PROPOSING ARE NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE COVE AND I THINK WE HAVE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO CURRENTLY OUT OF SAND MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING I GUESS I DO HAVE THE TREE INCLUDED AS WELL.

COULD YOU SHOW THOSE? I THINK JUST TO HAVE THEM ON THE SCREEN BE HELPFUL AND EACH TREE IS REALLY AN INVESTIGATION BECAUSE I THINK IT'S NOT TOO MANY BIG GRAND BEAUTIFUL HOUSES IF ANN ARBOR OUR FIRST REPORT ON THAT WE ARE SOME WORKING WITH ANN ARBOR IS WE DON'T HAVE

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I CAN INCONSIDERATE IF WE DON'T HAVE IT IN WRITING OKAY YOU TELLING US THAT THE TREES ARE NOT IN GOOD SHAPE I I CAN'T GO THAT IT'S THE SAME THING I HAD TO DEAL WITH MY PROPERTY OVER AND THEY HAD TO GET A TREE I HAD TO GET AN ARBORIST TO DETERMINE THAT THEY WERE SO WE CAN'T FOR PURPOSES OF TONIGHT WE CAN'T GO OKAY THIS 36 INCH AND THIS AND THIS ARE GOING TO GO BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN GOOD SHAPE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT MANAGING SO.

YEAH THAT'S OKAY. WE CAN MEDIATE REJUVENATE ON SITE WITH OUR NUMBERS, DISPOSE OF TREES AND WE COULD NEVER MAKE IT OUT IN THIS ENVIRONMENT FOR ANY OTHER REASONS I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION WITH THE LOT SIZES I'M YOU SAID YOU DID TEST IT'S THE DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES WHICH HOUSING TYPES YOU THINK WOULD FIT ON CERT ON SOME OF THESE SMALLER LOTS THERE SEEM TO BE VERY CHALLENGING. YEAH. WERE THE SMALLER ORDERS I DON'T WANT TO GO I'M GOING TO DO THAT. THERE'S TYPES BUT WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING FOR EACH LISTED AND USER TO DETERMINE WITH AN ARCHITECT.

SURE I. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BUILDABLE WITH THE BUILDING STANDARDS THE DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES THAT WE HAVE IN HISTORIC DISTRICT KNOWING THAT THE SETBACKS ARE SPECIFIC TO THAT BUILDING TYPE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THAT IT CAN BE BUILT SOON KNOWING TOO THAT THE DRIVEWAY HAS TO BE CONSIDERED THAT WIDTH BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING YOU HAVE TO PARK BEHIND IT.

WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU CAN MOVE YOUR HANDS OUT THAT YOU DO THIS OR WE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M JUST TELLING YOU I MEAN YOU CAN YOU CAN DO A LOT BETTER AS A COURTESY TO SAY MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE BUILDABLE BECAUSE IT DOES LIKE WHAT PUBLIC COMMENT WAS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING A LOT OF LOTS A SMALL SPACE AND ARE THEY REALLY BUILDABLE AND SOME OF THE SHAPES JUST YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING.

SOME OF THESE ESPECIALLY WITH THE BANK BUT WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BOX.

SOMEBODY ELSE WE DON'T AND WHATEVER WE NEED TO SHOW I THINK IS AND IT WAS ONE DOCUMENT IT LOOKED LIKE WITH THE GREEN BOXES ON IT ARE THOSE SUPPOSED TO DEPICT OR A COTTAGE THAT IS AN OLD PLAN. I DON'T KNOW WHY GUY WAS RISK OKAY DOING THAT AS LIKE A REPRESENTATION A MAIN BUILDING AND AN ACCESSORY BUILDING JUST TO SHOW THAT LOOK AT IT BECAUSE HISTORIC DISTRICT ACCESSORY BUILDING COULD BE FIVE FEET OFF THE SETBACKS BUT YOUR MAIN BUILDING HAS A BUILDING TYPE AND SO IT HAS DIFFERENT SETBACKS DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF BUILDING AND AND WORKING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WITHIN THE STRUCTURES THE NEXT SUBMITTAL IS TO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT APPROVING THAT IT IT WAS REALLY WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE ACTUAL BUILDABLE NOT SURE NOT CRAMMED ABSOLUTELY I THINK PART OF OUR CHARGE TWO IN FIVE SEVEN FOR A VIDEO IS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE BUILDABLE.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE NEARLY ENOUGH INFORMATION TO DETERMINE THAT I'M PRETTY DISAPPOINTED THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXHIBITS . THE FULL TREE AND TOPOGRAPHY SURVEY UNDERNEATH YOUR PROPOSED FLAT THERE ARE SOME TREES AND THERE'S STUFF LIKE NONE OF THEM ARE ON THE EXACT SAME PLAN. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE COVE AND THE TOP OF BANK LOT 11 MIXED USE A VIRTUALLY ON BUILDABLE UNLESS YOU'RE BUILDING IN THE AND THERE'S MORE TO THAT LIKE A 46 INCH LIVE OAK THERE'S 36 INCH LIKE A BOX TOWARDS THE FRONT OF SOME LOTS THOSE LIVE OAKS THAT ARE TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE LOT MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO MEET THE BUILD TO REQUIREMENT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN 10 TO 20 FEET OF THE FRONT PROPERTY DEPENDING ON THE BUILDING TYPE.

SO TO ME THE ONLY WAY TO BUILD A LOT MORE WOOD, THE ONLY POSSIBLE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO NOT EITHER REMOVE THE LIVE OAK OR TO BE NON-COMPLIANT WITH THE UDL.

SO TO ME THAT'S A NON BUILDABLE LOT UNTIL WE KNOW THE HEALTH OF THAT TREE THEY WANT 11 BECAUSE IT'S TOO NARROW A LOT. 11 IS VERY VERY SMALL FROM THE TOP OF BANK TO THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE ACCESS EASEMENT JUST WITH YOUR FRONT DOOR TWO LINES BUT YOU'RE WITH THAT TOO.

I MEAN THE AND THEN I HAVE CONCERNS WITH LOT SIX AND SEVEN THERE'S A 46 INCH LIGHTBULB BETWEEN THEM. THE DRIP LINE TAKES UP NEARLY THE ENTIRE BUILDABLE AREA SO TO

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WE KEPT SPACE ALONG THAT AREA THE BEST WE CAN WE ATTEMPTED TO REACH OUT TO TROYE 26, WORK WITH HIM AND REALLY GO ANYWHERE HE WANTS A MORE JUST THE STATEMENT I AM NOT CONVINCED THAT AT LEAST SIX OF THESE ARE EVEN BUILDABLE. WE'RE TAKING THE TREE CANOPIES AND TO AND THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO HIT IT FROM BUILD TO I'M ALSO I MADE MY OWN OVERLAY OF YOUR PLANS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER IF THERE'S NOTHING SUBMITTED THAT SHOWS YOUR LAYOUT ON TOP OF THE TOPOGRAPHY THE TREES ALL TOGETHER SO TO ME IT'S JUST NOT THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AT DRC. THERE WERE SEVERAL THE TREES TO ME WERE NOT ADDRESSED.

I DON'T SEE HOW HAVING SOME LARGE LIVE OAKS EITHER RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE OF A 55 FOOT WIDE LOT OR AT THE VERY FRONT OF A PROPERTY LINE LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYTHING HAS BEEN DESIGNED AROUND THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY. IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO ME THAT WE'RE PLACING ANY OF THE GREEN SPACES AROUND THE LARGE LIVE OAKS.

IT'S JUST OVER WHAT'S BUILDABLE FROM A GEOMETRIC STANDPOINT WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR GREEN SPACES. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR US TO BE CONFIDENT THAT YOU RESPECTED THE TREE CANOPIES AND YOU HAVE THAT ALL OF THESE WALLS ARE ACTUALLY BUILDING. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT MUCH MORE ELOQUENT THAN THE THOUGHT IN MY HEAD WHICH WAS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DEVELOP THESE BY CLEAR CUT OF THE LAND.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION I'D LIKE TO ECHO THE CONCERN ON THE TREES AND THE TREE CANOPY AND I BELIEVE THE TREE THE TREE CAN BE A REQUIREMENT AND IS IT SAVING BY 5% OR A LOT WHEN THEY COME IN THEY STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN 75% OF A CANOPY THAT DOES NOT COUNT THE ROOF.

OKAY. SO 75% A LOT NOT INCLUDING THE ROOF HAS TO BE MAINTAINED AS CANOPY OF THE CANOPY. OKAY. I JUST WANT THAT QUICK CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. MY OTHER CONCERN AND QUESTION FOR YOU NATHAN, IS STORMWATER HOW IS STORMWATER GOING TO BE ADDRESSED? I THINK I SAW SOME BOXES ON ON ONE OF THE PLANS. SURE.

SO CAN DO UPDATED PLANS OF WATERSHED WE SAT DOWN WITH THEM AND THEY WERE HAPPY WITH OUR DESIGN WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO CAPTURE EVERYTHING IN UNDERGROUND DETENTION SYSTEMS AND DISCHARGE IT BETWEEN LOGS FIVE AND SIX WHERE THERE'S AN EXISTING NATURAL THERE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE AS NOW FOR OR CALL IT OUT THERE AND DROP IT INTO THE COVE IT'S GOING TO GO INTO THE INTO THE COVE INTO THE SOIL. IT WILL DO OUR BEST TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO SO WE'VE GOT REALLY LOW GROUNDWATER, SUPER HIGH GRADES AND WE'RE GOING TO DO AN IMPERMEABLE LINER ALONG THE COVE TO MAKE NO LATERAL FLOW GOES OUT TOWARDS THE BANK.

IT'S ALL FORCED TO GO INWARD TOWARDS THE PROPERTY DOWN THE OVERFLOWS COMING INTO THE PROPERTY NO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO. IT GOES IN THE THE OVERFLOW DOES GO INTO THE COVE WHICH IS AND IT'S PRETTY COOL. THANK YOU.

AND IN TERMS OF LOT 11 I KNOW THAT'S A BIG CONCERN YOU GUYS HAVE HAD.

WE HAVE MET WITH STORMWATER ON SITE B THE WAY THE COVE JUMPS UP HERE WITH THIS LITTLE ARM IT'S ACTUALLY AN ARTIFICIAL KIND OF BANK. SOMEONE WENT BACK THERE AND STOLE DIRT AND SO THEY HAVE AGREED BASED ON THE TREES THAT ARE BACK THERE THAT WE WOULD BE OKAY TO FILL THAT VOID. WELL, I THINK THE CONCERN STILL IS EVEN IF YOU FILLED IT, HOW DO YOU GET BACK THERE AND HAVE THE BUILDING THE BUILDING REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET? AND SO THE VIDEO HISTORIC DISTRICT SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CHALLENGING TO THIS MEETING WHEN YOU ARE PLANNING WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME THINGS AND YOU

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OKAY. I JUST FOR DISCUSSION ARE NOW OUR DAM IS NOT HE SAID SO NOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT WHETHER WE PURPOSELY DID NOT SUBMIT THAT OKAY BASED ON NATHAN THE CONCERNS AND I SHARE A LOT OF WHAT LYDIA SAID YOU KNOW THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID THE CONCERNS ARE IT'S IN A NUTSHELL IT'S TOO MUCH AND TOO LITTLE FLOW RISKING THE TREES WERE RISKING THE COVE I KNOW IT'S NOT MOSTLY OUR MINE THERE BUT IT IS A COVE INTO THE MAE RIVER THERE ARE NO ASSURANCES THAT THOSE TREES ARE GOING TO BE PROTECTED IF WE APPROVE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN YOU GUYS START SELLING LOTS AND SO THE NEXT STEP IS YOU GUYS START SELLING LOTS AND THESE NEW HOMEOWNERS IN NEW PROPERTY OWNERS COME IN TO THE TOWN AND SAY OKAY I WANT TO BUILD MY ON THIS LOT AND SOMEBODY IN TOWN SAYS YOU CAN'T DO BECAUSE THERE'S A 46 INCH LIVE OAK THAT COVERS THREE QUARTERS OF THE LOT AND THEN THEY GET MAD AT THE TOWN, GET MAD AT YOU, THEY GET MAD AT US BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE THAT THAT'S THE CONCERN HERE AND WE DON'T WANT TO TELL PEOPLE NO BUT YOU KNOW THE ANSWER THE I ANSWERED WE DID NOT HAVE A SET NUMBER OF LIVES WE WERE AIMING FOR.

WE STARTED OUT WITH PROBABLY 19 AND JUST WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS WE GOT DOWN TO THIS NUMBER WHICH WE THOUGHT WAS PROBABLY COMPLIANT WITH THOSE STANDARDS LIKE WITH DEB WE LAID OUT THE SETBACKS CAME UP WITH BUILDABLE AREAS THEY ALL SEEM REASONABLE WE DID MEET WITH AN OBVIOUS I YOU CAN'T IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A REPORT FOR IT BUT WE DID AS AS MUCH DUE DILIGENCE AS WE COULD TO GET AROUND THOSE TREES THE HIGHEST CLUSTER LIVE OAKS THAT REALLY THE NICEST TREES ON THE PROPERTY ARE IN THE PARK AREA THAT WE HAVE THE GREEN TRIANGLE ON THE TOP THAT IS BEING UNDISTURBED. WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT LAND AND A BIG CLUSTER OF PROBABLY SIX OR SEVEN LIVES. OKAY SO ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO I WANT TO TAKE A TEMPERATURE. I MEAN I, I, I MEAN WE LIVE IN A UNIQUE COMMUNITY WELCOMES VERY UNIQUE TOWN AND IN THIS THIS SITE IS HAS A LOT OF DEMANDS ON IT TREES BEING THE ONE DRAINAGE I THINK MORE PARTS OF THE EQUATION NEED TO BE BROUGHT IN TO GET A BETTER LAYOUT INSIDE. I THINK IT'S TOO MANY SITES.

I THINK YOU NEED TO GET EVERYTHING THERE INCLUDING A TREE ASSESSMENT ARBORIST A TREE ASSESSMENT NOT JUST A ARBORIST REPORT, A TREE ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE TREES ARE GOING TO DO AFTER DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL I KNOW WE CAN'T REQUIRE THAT BUT WE HAVE TO DO THIS PROPERLY TO MAKE THIS A SPECIAL AND UNIQUE COMMUNITY WITHIN BLOCKS AND I THINK ALL THOSE PIECES NEED TO BE BROUGHT TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS A BETTER BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR HOMETOWN BUT I GUESS I SAID, I THINK WE WILL TABLE UNTIL WE CAN RESUBMIT IT ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS.

MY ONE QUESTION I HOPE YOU GUYS ANSWER SOMEBODY CAN GIVE ME AN ANSWER IS IT IF WE'RE FULLY COMPLIANT YOUR STANDARDS AND WE'RE STILL BEING TOLD IT'S TOO MUCH ON TOO LITTLE HOW DO WE QUANTIFY THAT NUMBER OF WHAT WE CAN PUT HERE? BUTYL SPECIFICALLY SAYS WE NEED TO DESIGN AROUND SIGNIFICANT TREES. THAT'S A BIG PIECE OF IT THAT'S NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE STANDARDS PRESENTLY UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE THAT THE SIGNIFICANT TREES THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LOTS ARE UNHEALTHY AND NEED TO BE REMOVED IT ALSO ABOUT REDUCING FELLS SO NEEDING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR BUILDABLE AREA IS WITH THE COVE THERE ARE SEVERAL LOTS THAT WITHOUT FILLING A PORTION OF THE COVE THERE IS VERY LITTLE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ON THAT LOT. FOR ME THOSE TWO THINGS RIGHT NOW ARE NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE IDEA. I DON'T THINK THAT THIS PLAN ILLUSTRATES THAT THEY'RE BUILDABLE. THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE THAT WE'RE CHARGED WITH IS ENSURING THAT WHAT WE'RE APPROVING IS BUILDABLE.

I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO REVIEW THAT AT THIS POINT FROM.

THE OVERLAYS THAT I'VE TAKEN FROM WHAT YOU SUBMITTED I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT AT SIX OF THE 12 BLOCKS THAT YOU ALL HAVE 30 MONTHS PRETTY MAJOR CONCERNS ESPECIALLY THE TREES AND I THINK FOR ME IT WOULD HELP TO SEE THE TREE AND HOBO WITH ALL OF THE TOP LINES UNDERNEATH THEIR LOT LAYOUT AND TO SEE WHAT YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE SOME TYPE OF TEST FIT OF A BUILDABLE AREA THAT CAN ILLUSTRATE THAT WHAT YOU HAVE PROPOSED IS POSSIBLE TO MEET FROM BUILD TO USE TO MEET SETBACKS THE VIDEO BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WILL BE COMPLIANT ONCE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS PRESENTED YEAH I MEAN TO PUT IT SUCCINCTLY I'M

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SO I MEAN IT'S ALWAYS THE APPLICANT'S DECISION BUT WOULD HAVE TO WITHDRAW IT IF THAT'S THE CASE AND HE TABLE HE HAS TO TABLE WE TABLE I MEAN KIM CAN WE TABLE IT KNOWING THAT THEY WOULD BE COMPLIANT WITH YOU KNOW HAVE IT IN YOUR SCRIPT AND YOUR DISCRETION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL YOU HAVE EITHER THE NEXT MEETING OR FUTURE MEETING ONCE THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE ADEQUATE INFORMATION BUT THE APPLICANT HAS SAID THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT HAS RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE DONE RATHER THAN WITHDRAW HAVE IT GO FOR AN ACTUAL VOTE.

AT THIS POINT I THE THING IS THE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING IS GOING TO BE SO FAR APART FROM WHAT IS PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT THAT I FEEL IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE RCA BUILDINGS TO CONSUME TO IMPROVEMENT, TO GO TO THE LAST . SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT OPTIONS THAT THE APPLICANT IS VERY CLEAR IF WE DENY IT TONIGHT IT AS A YEAR RIGHT THAT THEY HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR AND THEY CAN RESUBMIT I BELIEVE YES IF IT'S NOT THROUGH OKAY.

IF THEY TABLE IT IT JUST DOES WHAT TABLING IT IS A DECISION THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN YOUR POWER WHICH WILL BASICALLY SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A DECISION BY WE WANT YOU TO COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION PRESENT TO US AGAIN AND WILL RECONSIDER THIS APPLICATION WITH THAT MATERIAL OR SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS THAT YOU HAD DISCUSSED AND THAT YOU HAD THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE CRITERIA BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS THAT THE APPLICATION IS INSUFFICIENT FOR YOU TO MAKE THAT DECISION ANY DECISION OTHER OTHERWISE ABOUT OKAY SO IS THERE A BECAUSE I HEAR DIFFERENT WORDS GOING TO WITHDRAWAL IS THERE A WITHDRAWAL AND WHAT IS THAT? SO WITHDRAWING AND WE'RE REALLY JUST PRIOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT SAYING WE'D LIKE TO WITHDRAW IT SO THAT WE CAN RETURN AND NOT LOSE OUR STATE AND NOT LOSE OUR PLACE AND NOT LOSE THE TIME THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO THIS PROCESS. KEEP THE APPLICATION MOVING FORWARD.

DON'T THEM THE ABILITY TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU VERSUS WHEN IT'S TABLED YOU REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING BACK IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE BACK WITHDRAWAL ASSUMING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING OR LOSING YOUR SEAT OR A REASONABLE OKAY BUT OKAY SO CAN YOU FIRST OF ALL FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE I THINK THAT'S IT CERTAINLY. OR SECOND, WHAT WAS THE STATEMENT JUST ASKED ABOUT NO CONDITIONS. HE WAS JUST SAYING HE WOULD BECAUSE WE WOULD WITHDRAW THOSE PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED.

I UNDERSTAND RESTATEMENT. YES. I THINK WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO IS OF THIS APPLICATION FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION TONIGHT SO THAT THEY CAN COME BACK AND BRING BEFORE THE YORK CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AT A LATER DATE AND THAT WAY THEY CAN CONTROL THE SCHEDULE MORE. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ONE THING I I A SUGGESTION OBVIOUSLY I'VE SEEN THIS IN DRC WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE. IT'S NOT CHANGED ENOUGH TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER TO PAUSE ISSUES WHETHER THE TREES FILL AND SO FORTH.

MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT WHEN YOU DO COME BACK IT'S GOING TO BETTER ADDRESS ISSUES BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FEEL WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A OF THESE THINGS BEFORE SO SO THIS MAY NOT BE THE FIRST TIME I WANT TO MAKE SURE COMMISSIONER DEPLORES CONCERNS ARE FULLY ADDRESSED BUT WAS WITHDRAWING IT TO IT GOES BACK TO DRC FIRST I SWEAR I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS JUST BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHAT IS THE PLAN CHANGES EVERYONE NEEDS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE THAT MAKES CHANGES TO WATER SEWER THAT MAKES CHANGES TO STORMWATER SO THERE'S A LOT OF YOU KNOW IT'S DOMINO EFFECT WE START CHANGING THAT WOULD MAKE US AS THE COMMISSION BETTER VETTED JUST WHEN IT COMES BACK VERSUS AND IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY DIRECT AND I WOULD I WOULD MAKE A SUGGESTION AND THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION BASED ON COMMISSIONER TO PAUSE COMMENTS COMMISSIONER BROCK'S COMMENTS TONIGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA SEE IF BECAUSE THERE THEY'RE MORE OF AN EXPERT IN THESE MATTERS THAN I AM IT MIGHT NOT BE BAD IDEA TO HAVE A SIT DOWN AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND INPUT BEFORE READ EVERYTHING.

YEAH ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE GETS THERE IF IF Y'ALL ARE WILLING TO DO THAT AND I PEOPLE SERVICE

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[VII.6. Consideration of Ordinances Related to Property Commonly Referred to University Investments, LLC Consisting of a Total of 65.592 Acres, More or Less, Located at Southwest Corner of the Buckwalter Parkway and Lake Point Drive Intersection and to the West of the Retreat at Grande Oaks, and Bearing Beaufort County Tax Map Nos. R600-029-000-0014-0000 (Portion) and R600-029-000-2410-0000 (Staff - Kevin Icard)]

SO THAT DOES INCLUDE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP CONCEPT PLAN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, ANNEXATION. I THINK THERE'S ONE OTHER IN THERE AS WELL. SO OF THE 65.5 ACRES 27.4 IS UPLANDS, 38 IS WETLANDS AS OF RIGHT NOW THE AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE VICINITY MAP HERE IN THE DARKER SHADED GRAY AREA THAT'S THE PROPERTY THERE IS THE ONLY USE THAT'S LOST ON THE RIGHT NOW IS A CELL TOWER THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR SOME YEARS. AGAIN, FROM AN AERIAL STANDPOINT CAN SEE THE AREAS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW THAT THE APPLICANT IS WISHING TO ANNEX INTO THE TOWN FROM THE ZONING MAP SO THE MAP WOULD BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THESE PORTIONS. SO SOME QUICK BACKGROUND INFORMATION. THE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY IN BRANDY OAKS AND THE COUNTY AND I DO HAVE A MAP OF THAT HERE TO HELP VISUALIZE AND IT HAS THAT VILLAGE COMMERCIAL LAND USE TRACT IT IS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THE BUCKWALTER COMMONS LAND USE TRACT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO THIS AREA LET ME JUST GET TO SEE IF WE HAVE A BETTER MAP HERE.

I DON'T A LOT GOING THE WRONG WAY OVER SORRY THIS AREA HAD ALWAYS KIND OF BEEN CONTEMPLATED AS FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT IN FRONT ME BUT OUR GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAP DOES CALL FOR THE TOWN CENTER WHICH IS THE MOST INTENSE DESIGNATION THAT WE HAVE FOR THE NODES. SO IT IS AN APPROPRIATE TYPE OF OF USES IN THIS AREA. NOW YOU NOTICE THAT THERE IS A DISCREPANCY IN UPLAND ACRES THAT'S ON THERE VERSUS THE TOTAL OF 32 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT THE REQUESTING THE REASON FOR THAT IS FOR SOME FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN SOME TIME SINCE A WETLANDS DELINEATION HAS HAPPENED FOR THE PROPERTY SO WETLANDS COULD HAVE THEY COULD HAVE DECREASED. IT'S A LIFE LIVING THING SO THIS GIVES THE APPLICANT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY THAT THEY NEED TO TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE MEETING MEETING THEIR NEEDS OF THE UPLANDS AND ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THAT THEY CREATE A NEW LAND USE TRACK AND THAT'S THE GRANDIOSE AND ONE OF THE REASONS BEHIND THIS IS THAT PREVIOUS OF THIS PLAN HAS COME IN FRONT OF TOWN COUNCIL SINCE 2020 AND THE TOWN COUNCIL AND I THINK, I HAVE IT IN THE STAFF REPORT WHERE IT

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SO THEY DID THAT WHEN THEY CAME BACK WITH MORE PROPERTIES THEY ISSUES WITH USES THAT WERE LISTED IN BACK OF COMMENTS THAT THEY DIDN'T FEEL WAS APPROPRIATE.

THAT'S WHERE TOWN COUNCIL SUGGESTED THAT THEY CREATE A LAND USE TRACK VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH SAINT GREGORY THE GREAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHERE WE CREATED THE SAINT GREGORY THE GREAT PLAINS TRACT. IT WAS ABLE TO RESTRICTIONS ON USES OR PROHIBIT CERTAIN USES SO THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS DONE BASED OFF OF TOWN COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS TO CREATE THIS LAND USE TRACT AND THEN LIMIT CERTAIN USES AND THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR ATTACHMENTS THAT YOU HAD. IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE SO I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK THROUGH THIS. ONE OF THE BIG INTENTS NUMBER ONE WAS THAT TOWN COUNCIL. THEY DON'T TO UPSET AND UP ZONED TO ALLOW FOR MORE INTENSE USES SO THE APPLICANT HAS HAS DONE THAT THEY HAVE LIMITED USES THEY HAVE ACTUALLY DOWN ZONED SOME OF THE PROPOSED USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED VERSUS WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THE BUCKWALTER COMMENTS VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT SO THAT IS THAT IS THAT WAS A GOOD THING THIS THIS TABLE IN ESSENCE WOULD THEN BE PART OF OF THEIR THEIR SPECIFIC USES OF WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED ONE OF THE BIG ITEMS THAT WE HAVE IN HERE IS THAT THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS ONCE AN AREA SO THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE REQUIRE THAT IF THERE'S ANY NEW OR AMENDED PUD THAT INCLUDES A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT TO IT YOU'RE REQUIRED 20% TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING SO APPLICANT WHILE THE APPLICANT HAS RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN BUCKWALTER CURRENTLY THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY ADDITIONAL RESIDENT OR DWELLING UNITS NOW IN THAT SAME BREATH IN THE FUTURE THE APPLICANT DECIDED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT IN THIS AREA THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BRING UNITS TO TO TO DO THAT SO THERE'S NO NEW UNITS BEING PROPOSED THIS EVENING. YOU COULD BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF THE IF THE IF THE OWNER HAS, YOU KNOW, STORED OR UNUSED TO USE HE COULD RE REASSIGN THEM HERE POTENTIALLY YES SO WE COULD APPROVE THIS AND HE COULD TURN AROUND TURN THE WHOLE THING INTO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR APARTMENTS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WOULD HAPPEN BUT YOU KNOW OUR CONCERN WITH THIS AND YOU'RE GOING TO MEET A GREATER CONCERN AT COUNCIL WHILE.

THAT IS CORRECT THESE THESE UNITS ALREADY EXIST SO THEY'RE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS SO THE APPLICANT IS NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL UNITS SO THEY'RE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR.

SO IF THEY'RE PLACED LIKE THAT JUST THE LOCATION IS THE LOCATION.

YES, CORRECT. IT'S THE LOCATION OF WHERE THEY WOULD GO.

SO THAT'S I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU AND IF THAT'S A CONCERN THIS IS A WORKSHOP SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT THAT WITH THE APPLICANT NO BE ABLE TO TELL US HOW MANY ROAD USE HE OR SHE HAS AVAILABLE? WELL, I CAN TELL YOU AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THE APPLICANT THAT IT'S THE TOTAL THAT ARE FLOATING IN QUARTER SO UNIVERSITY HOLDINGS HAS 296 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS THAT'S REMAINING OVERALL CORRECT. IT SOUNDS LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND I'M SPECULATING WE'RE JUST ASKING QUESTIONS THE PART OF PART OF THIS ENTIRE PROCESS INCLUDES THE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONSENT PLAN THIS IS THE BUCKWALTER CONCEPT PLAN AND WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE AREAS HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE HASH HASH MARK HERE THIS IS THAT INCLUSION OF LAND INTO THE BUCKWALTER PD AND IT HAVE A GRANDIOSE LAND USE TRACK TO IT AND WHILE THAT RIGHT NOW IS JUST LISTED AS RED WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A HASH MARK OF SOME SORT ON THERE JUST TO DELINEATE THAT PORTION OF USE THERE IN QUESTION BACK TO MAPPING AND THE TWO WHITE SPACES THAT ARE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE LEFTMOST GRANDY OAKS COMMON ARE THEY OWNED THE SAME OWNER OR IS THAT SOMEBODY ELSE ? I BELIEVE SO AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN CONFIRM OKAY. ALSO PART OF THAT CONSENT PLAN AND JUST LET ME JUST GO BACK REAL QUICK. YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE THIS TABLE UP HERE THE DENSITY AND ACREAGE

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SO THOSE ARE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THAT CONCEPT PLAN. THE QUESTION AGAIN YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THE FLEXIBILITY TO GO TO 32 WOULD THAT REPLACE 27? WELL, AS OF RIGHT NOW THAT IS JUST THAT'S WHAT THE THE UPLAND ACREAGE IS.

SO THE IT COULD CHANGE I THINK THAT IF IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN WE COULD PROBABLY DO LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE NEED TO DO AN AMENDMENT TO THE TO THE CONCEPT PLAN.

MY ONLY WITH DOING THAT IS IF WE STARTED LOOKING AT EVERY OTHER ONE WHERE AGAIN IT FLUCTUATES AND WE'RE CHANGING TRYING TO CHANGE PLAN NONSTOP FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT.

AGAIN WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING THIS IS THE WORKSHOP AND THIS WOULD COME BACK TO YOU FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN ULTIMATELY TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR A FIRST AND SECOND READING AGAIN WORKSHOP NO VOTE THIS EVENING AND ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE SOME MORE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. ALSO THE APPLICANT IS HERE. WE'VE GOT THEM ALL MR. REED MR. LONG AND MR. HAMMETT COULD PROBABLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY FOR ANY OF THE APPLICANTS LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS PROJECT SUMMARY FROM VIEW WE'LL TRY TO DO IT AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS NATHAN LONG. I'M WITH THOMAS AND HUTTON. YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT AND KIND OF GO BACK LITTLE BIT THROUGH THE HISTORY SO IT WAS I THINK IT WAS NOVEMBER OF 2020 WHEN WE INITIALLY CAME IN WITH ABOUT 13 ACRES. SO THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY OWNS LET ME COME BACK TO THIS MAP.

SO THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY OWNS LAND IN ABOVE WATER ADJACENT TO BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND THE BUCKWALTER PARKWAY EVERYTHING THAT IS AND WATER RIGHT NOW THE GRANDIOSE SPEED WAS IN BEAUFORT AND HAS BEEN FIVE PLUS YEARS YOU KNOW THE LAND USES THERE THERE SO AS WE CAME TO THE TOWN WITH THE FIRST INITIAL USE THE WHOLE PURPOSE WAS TO CREATE CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY WITH THE SAME SET OF RULES RIGHT BECAUSE SOME OF IT'S IN THE COUNTY OF US IN TOWN OF BLUFFTON.

SO WHAT THE TOWN SAID THERE WAS WELL WHY DON'T YOU COME BACK TO WITH BECAUSE THEY WERE LOOKING AT PURCHASING A FEW OF THESE PROPERTIES. JAMES SAID, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND BRING IT ALL IN AT ONE TIME SO WE CAME BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 22 WITH THAT PLAN.

A COUPLE OF CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD THERE WAS ONE THERE WAS A PROPERTY ADJACENT TO HAMPTON LAKE AND SO THAT'S THIS ONE THEIR PARCEL OF LAND TO THE WEST THERE THEY WERE CONCERNED WITH THAT BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS IN HAMPTON LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, VOICED SOME ISSUES WITH DEVELOPMENT NEXT DOOR RIGHT SO THEY REMOVED THAT PIECE FROM THE NEW ANNEXATION WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT THE SECOND THING WAS IN GRANDIOSE THEY HAD RIGHTS TO ABOUT 53 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS. IF THEY DEVELOPED THAT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.

RIGHT. SO THEY INITIALLY WERE TRYING TO BRING IN THAT PROPERTY AND GO AHEAD AND BRING IN THE 53 UNITS ALONG WITH THAT THE EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT'S WHY THAT WENT TO ZERO NEW RESIDENTIAL AS WELL.

SO SO WE'VE WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE TOWN WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE ADDRESSED CONCERNS.

I THINK THAT'S PARTLY WHY THEY VOTED TO NOT SEND IT TO THE COMMITTEE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE HAVE LISTENED TO WHAT THEY'VE SAID AND WE'RE BACK BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO VOTE TONIGHT BUT WE'RE HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU KNOW, AFTER THIS STEP ONCE ANNEXED AND RE ZONED, THEN WE'LL START PLANNING THE PROPERTY WHICH EVERYTHING WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU FOR INITIAL MASTER DEVELOPMENT PERMITS ETC. SO WHAT IS THE ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY? THERE ARE ARE VARIOUS ACCESS POINTS TO THE PROPERTY WE'RE FOLLOWING THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT'S ALONG THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY. SO YOU HAVE INNOVATION DRIVE. I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE MORE TO THE WEST THAT ALIGNS WITH THE I FORGET WHICH APARTMENT BUILDING WHICH IS YOU KNOW YEAH YEAH IS

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THERE'S ALSO SOME INTERCONNECTIVITY THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PLANNED IN THE GRANDIOSE BEAUTY FOR CONNECTIONS FOR INNOVATION DRIVE TO COME DOWN.

THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN INNOVATION DRIVE CONNECTING IN TOWN THROUGH GRANDIOSE GRANDIOSE LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE COMMERCIAL IT ACTUALLY DOES LINE UP WITH YOU CAN SEE INNOVATION DRIVE THERE COMING FROM WALTER PLACE THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN AND THEN IT COMES OVER INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD YES THE TOWN ACTUALLY OWNS THAT RIGHT OF FOR INNOVATION IT IS BUT I'M JUST I MEAN BUT AS IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO ALWAYS BEEN OR INTERCONNECTIVITY IS SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN AND COUNTY EVERYONE WANTS TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF THE MAIN ROADS IF THEY'RE COMING TO SERVICES OR WITHOUT GETTING BACK ON THE BACK PORCH PARKWAY OR THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY IF RESIDENTS FROM DOWN THERE CAN JUST DRIVE UP AND GO TO WHATEVER SERVICE COMMERCIAL SERVICES MAY BE HERE, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR EVERYONE. WELL COUNTY HASN'T DONE THE BEST JOB WITH INTERCONNECTIVITY ON THESE PARCELS POPPING OLD MILLER ROAD THROUGH SO QUESTION RELATED TO THAT IS THIS DEVELOPMENT WILLING TO BE COMMITTED TO PUTTING IN ACCESS AND ON THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS AGAIN IN THOSE CONCEPTUAL PHASES BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DESIRED. YES, INTERNAL CONNECTIVITY THAT GIVES YOU THE INTERCONNECTIVITY. YEAH. WITH INNOVATION AND EVEN MAYBE MORE ACCESS TO LAKE POINT. YES. YES SIR.

WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY OF OLD MILLER ROAD THROUGH TO WHERE THE SHOT AND EVEN IN THE DOME BE. OH GOSH YEAH THAT WOULD BE LIKE THAT JUST BASED OFF OF THAT COMMENT RIGHT THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE APPLICANT IS ON THAT CONCEPT PLAN IS TO SHOW ACCESS POINTS WHICH WE WE ACTUALLY DO FOR QUITE QUITE A FEW OTHER LOCATIONS SO YOU CAN SEE LIKE WHERE WE HAVE LIKE ARROWS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THOSE ARE ACCESS. WE CAN WORK TO UPDATE THAT CONCEPT PLAN IN ORDER TO SHOW POTENTIAL ACCESS POINTS. I JUST HATE TO SEE IT ALL GET DEVELOPED AND THEN THOSE THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN EDGEFIELD ALL THAT STILL ONLY HAVE ONE ENTRANCE WHICH TOTALLY AGREES AND AGAIN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE INITIAL MASTER PLAN ONCE THIS PROCESS IS COMPLETE WHERE IT WILL BE BACK BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL.

BUT INTERCONNECTIVITY IS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS EXPRESSED THAT THEY DESIRE AS WELL. WHAT DOES THE FUTURE BLUFFTON PARKWAY DO ANYTHING IT'S NOT THE REALIGNMENT OF THE THAT DOES POTENTIALLY PEOPLE IT DOES POTENTIALLY SWING THROUGH A PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY NO NOT WHAT'S GETTING IN IT'S NOT THE ANNEXATION I'M SORRY I'M SORRY IT DOESN'T TOUCH THE ANNEXATION PROPERTY THAT I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

FIRST ONE IS FOR KEVIN THE COMMERCIAL THAT WE WOULD BE GIVING THEM UP THE ANNEX IT IN WOULD THERE BE AN ABILITY TRANSFER THAT OUT OF THERE AND TO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND IN OR CAN THAT BE LOCKED DOWN THAT CAN BE LOCKED IN IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD RECOMMEND TO TOWN COUNCIL IS SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT WE DID WITH SAINT THE BREAK WHERE THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO MOVE BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER SAINT GREGORY THE GREAT THEY HAD I BELIEVE WAS ABOUT 150 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS ASSIGNED TO THEM.

BUT THE THE INTENT WAS THAT THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO MOVE THOSE OF THE SAINT GREGORY TRACT. SO IF YOU ARE IF YOU HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW WE CAN WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AS THIS IS MOVING FORWARD AND THAT COULD BE ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WELL, I WOULD I WOULD SAY THAT'S SOMETHING I KNOW THE REST OF PLANNING COMMISSION BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT WE WANT THIS TO BE A COMMERCIAL MODE RIGHT? THEORETICALLY, ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAPPEN THEORETICALLY IT COULD TRANSFER 296 TO USE IN THERE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRANSFER THE COMMERCIAL OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO I THINK IF WE CAN KEEP THE COMMERCIAL LOCKED INTO IT THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I DON'T HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH THE TO USE GETTING TRANSFERRED IN THERE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT USE IF IF THE DEVELOPER TOMORROW SAYS I'M NOT GOING TO ANNEX AND GO AHEAD AND BUILD HOUSES THERE

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SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED ABOUT A MONTH AGO. I WE HAVE A NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT ABOUT THE TERMS OF IT BUT IT'S A BIG MEDICAL FACILITY ONCE THAT COMES A WANTS TO DO BUSINESS THERE AND WE WOULD WE WOULD WELCOME MEDICAL ANOTHER ADEQUATE FACILITY BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WITH THIS PEOPLE CAN'T GET MEDICAL THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL SO I CAN'T TELL YOU SURE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BUT WE DO HAVE THE OPEN WE'RE OPEN IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE RIGHT NOW MEDICAL OR MAYBE MIXED USE AND OR A MEDICAL BUT TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS IT PROBABLY A MEDICAL FACILITY AND MIXED USE THEN BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S EVEN BETTER RIGHT NOW AND SOMETIMES THAT'S ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES.

OH SO DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ANIMAL? I'M GOING TO TRY WHAT'S LEFT.

OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND IF YOU IF MAY JUST BECAUSE UNDERSTANDABLY THIS IS A WORKSHOP SO THERE'S A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE DISCUSSION OF THROUGHOUT THE WHAT'S BEEN REQUESTED HERE IS A COMBINATION OF THINGS FROM ANNEXATION TO THE CONSENT THAT BUILDING SOME OF NONE OF IT BEING BASED OFF OF MAY HAPPEN THE DECISIONS WILL BE BASED ON WHAT MAY HAPPEN THE PROPERTY BECAUSE YOU KNOW THESE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE GOING TO LAST DECADES LONGER AND SO THERE CAN BE ALL SORTS OF CHANGES THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED. I HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY AS TO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO OR WHAT SORT OF RESTRICTIONS YOU COULD PLACE ON THE USE OF PRESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA IF YOU WANTED TO INCORPORATE 20% AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT? I THINK BECAUSE THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING IN THIS ISN'T A BUY RIGHT.

BUT APPLICATION THIS IS A ANNEXATION THIS IS A AN ATTEMPT TO COME OUT.

I THINK THAT YOU CAN THIS IS A WORKSHOP SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU CAN DISCUSS ANY RESIDENTIAL THAT COMES INTO THAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE 20% OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS STATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN FURTHER WE'VE WE'VE SOME ISSUES ALONG THE PARKWAY WITH THE MANAGEMENT PLANS AND WHETHER DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO COMPLY WITH THE MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND AS PART OF THIS THAT YOU BE VERY CLEAR THAT COMPLIANCE WITH BLOCKING ACCESS OR THE PORT ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE CONSENT PLAN BE SHOWN TO INCLUDE ACCESS POINTS AND THE ROAD FRONTAGE TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE AGAIN BECAUSE AS A WORKSHOP I'M GOING A LITTLE BIT OFF THE CUFF HERE BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE THE PAST IN THE AREAS WORK WHEN I'M LOOKING BACK AT THE COUNCIL PLANS WHAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED THIS TIME AS WE'RE MAKING AMENDMENTS TO IT AND BRINGING IN AREA AND NOW AT THE END OF THE YEAR EXPRESSED A WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN.

I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'D BE AN ISSUE TO SHOW THE ROAD OR OR TO INCORPORATE THE MANAGEMENT PLAN IN THE EXPLICIT LANGUAGE OF THE AGREEMENTS AMENDMENT. AND THEN I THINK YOU CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS ANY SORT OF RESIDENTIAL CAPS OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PERCENTAGES AS WELL. SO I JUST WANT TO BRING OPPOSITE TRUST AND ALSO MAYBE

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I IT OKAY ANYTHING FURTHER ON I WOULD LIKE IT SURE WE GOT THE IT ON 2015 AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE OFFERED THAT TO BEGIN WITH WHEN WE WERE BRINGING IN THE 53 UNITS AND WE WERE VERY OBSTRUCTIVE BUT ENCOURAGED BY THE COUNCIL NOT TO BRING ANY UNITS AND NOT TO BRING ANY OF THE UNITS IN. SO THAT'S REALLY WE'RE NOT BRINGING ANY NEW UNITS IN BUT WE HAD AGREED TO DO THAT IF WE WERE SO WHEN WE LEFT THE 53 UNITS OUT WE DIDN'T AGREE TO IT TO THE EXISTING 90 SOMETHING UNITS OR NOT ARE NOT THERE AND THEY'RE ALREADY IN THERE.

SO WE DON'T WE HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AGAIN BECAUSE WE ALREADY ADDRESSED IT AND WAS TOLD NOT TO DO. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ONE OTHER QUESTION, RICHARDSON SINCE YOU'RE SAYING IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER, THIS IS NOT CONSIDERED CORRIDOR, IS THAT CORRECT? NO. WE TALK ABOUT ARCHITECTURE OR NO ONE WONDER A MOVING UNDER LOCOMOTIVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THOSE PARKWAY IS ARE EXEMPT FROM HOW IMPORTANT FOR THE LEADERSHIP IT WOULD BE IN THEORY YOU COULD THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO THOSE SUBJECT TO IT I THINK IT WOULD BE A THIS IS JUST A PRACTICAL MATTER AND I WOULDN'T STAND OVER HERE AND WORKING STAFF I WOULD THINK IT WOULD HAVE AN ADDED LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY TO HAVE TOO. OKAY WHICH ONES DO WE HAVE HIGHWAY GOOD ARE ON WHICH ONES DO WE NOT IT IS BECAUSE IT'S PROPERTIES INFORMATION.

THAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE THAT LARGE I THINK YOU HAVE 100 FOOT EASEMENT THAT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE OF HE OWNS THE OWNS THE PROPERTY AND BETWEEN IT AND THE PARKWAY SO POINT AS I THINK IS WHAT I YES THANK YOU OKAY ALL RIGHT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF ANYTHING THAT MIGHT I'M AFRAID YOU'RE ON SECOND. OKAY

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.