May 13, 2024 Community Services and Land Use Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS A MEETING OF COMMUNITY SERVICES AND LAND USE. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE RIBAUT FOR WHICH ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OKAY. HAVE A C. MM HMM.

MS.. BROCK, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? YES, MA'AM.

[3. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT]

PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

YES, MA'AM, IT WAS. ALL RIGHT, I WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA? WE HAVE QUITE A FEW THINGS ON THERE TODAY SO MOVE.

MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DAWSON. DO I HAVE A SECOND AND I'LL

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

AND THEN OCTOBER 9TH THE REASON THAT ONE IS ON THERE OUR OUR CLERK'S OFFICE DOES AN ANNUAL AUDIT OF THEIR MINUTES AND IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE OCTOBER MINUTES HAD NOT BEEN APPROVED. SO THIS IS JUST TO CLEAN THAT UP.

SO WE HAVE MINUTES FROM APRIL 8TH AND OCTOBER 9TH. SO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE CAN DO THEM TOGETHER. THAT'S OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BOTH THOSE MINUTES SO MOVE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, VICE-CHAIRMAN. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SECOND. AND SECOND MY COUNCILMAN DAWSON

[6. CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD]

AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP GRANT MCCLURE ITEM NUMBER 13 PLASTICS GRANT IS WITH THE COASTAL CONSERVATION CONSERVATION. HELLO MY NAME IS GRANT MCCLURE.

I WORK FOR THE COASTAL CONSERVATION I ALSO LIVE IN BEAUFORT AND MY ADDRESS IS 1212 KING STREET. I'M HERE TODAY. I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE PLASTICS ORDINANCE SO I'LL JUST BE READING MY COMMENTS AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS.

SO MY NAME'S GRANT MCCLURE. I WORK FOR THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE AND WE'RE A501C3 NONPROFIT THAT FOCUSES ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCACY TO PROTECT OUR NATURAL RESOURCES IN THE QUALITY OF IN OUR COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO ELIMINATE THE USE OF PLASTIC CARRY OUT BAGS PLASTIC STRAWS AND POLYSTYRENE PLASTIC FOAM. THE LEAGUE SUPPORTS THESE UPDATES TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WHICH WILL HELP PROTECT MARINE WILDLIFE AND LOCAL WILDLIFE, MAXIMIZE THE OPERATING LIFE OF OUR LANDFILLS AND THE ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL COST OF MANAGING WASTE. WE OFFER THE FOLLOWING SUGGESTIONS TO FURTHER REFINE AND CLARIFY THE ORDINANCE NAMELY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EXEMPTIONS ARE NOT UNINTENTIONALLY CONFLICTING WITH THE ORDINANCES.

SO FOR EXAMPLE SECTION 30 8-1 64 ITEM K CREATES AN EXEMPTION FOR CARRY OUT CUTLERY THAT INCLUDES SPOONS AND FORKS AND THIS EXEMPTION WHETHER UNINTENTIONALLY OR NOT SEEMS TO CONTRADICT WITH ITEM E AND SECTION 30 8-1 63 WHICH STATES THAT NO FOOD OR GROCERY ESTABLISHMENT OR FOOD PROVIDER WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY MAY PROVIDE PLASTIC STRAWS. PLASTIC FOOD SERVICE WEAR OR DISPOSABLE FOOD SERVICE WEAR CONTAINING PLASTIC FOAM TO ITS CUSTOMERS. SO WE RECOMMEND EXAMINING THIS DEEPER AND CLARIFYING IT. IN FACT, PLASTIC CUTLERY AND SERVICE WEAR IS TO BE PER THE ORDINANCE OR IF IT IS TO BE AN EXCEPTION ADDITIONALLY UNDER EXCEPTION SECTION 30 8-16 FOR ITEM IN ITEM K THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR TERMS OF WHAT THEY ALLOW AND SO IT MAY BE POSSIBLE TO COMBINE TWO SECTIONS. THEY BOTH REFERENCE MEAT TRAYS SECTION 30 8-164H THAT CREATES AN FOR ANY PRODUCTS THAT ARE PURCHASED, PREPARED OR PACKAGED OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA FOR

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WE'VE SEEN A PROLIFERATION SPECIFICALLY IN THOSE THICKER PLASTIC EVER SINCE THE FIRST BAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2018. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL ON THESE THESE CHANGES.

COULD YOU PROVIDE OR SEND THEM TO US LATER THOSE COMMENTS I YES, I'LL LEAVE A COPY WITH THE CLERK AND I'VE ALSO GOT A FACT SHEET WITH SOME STATISTICS ON PLASTICS AND SO I APPRECIATE.

[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT (Part 1 of 2)]

NEXT IS OUR ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT FROM MR. ATKINS.

GOOD AFTERNOON. WE HAVE TWO REPORTS FOR YOU TODAY.

FIRST, OUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR MS.. AMANDA DICKMAN IS GOING TO COME GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE PORT ROYAL LIBRARY OPENING AND STATUS OF CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN AFTER SHE CONCLUDES HER REPORT, ROB MERCHANT'S GOING TO COME AND GIVE UPDATE CONCERNING THE WHERE WE STAND ON THE LIBRARY OR THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN UPDATE.

AND WHEN ROB CONCLUDES HIS REPORT THAT'LL GO AROUND THE REPORT THANK YOU AND GOOD AFTERNOON. IT IS MY PLEASURE ON THIS KIND OF GLOOMY AFTERNOON TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOMETHING THAT LIGHTS MY WORLD UP WHICH IS LIBRARIES I HOPE IT LIGHT SHORES UP AS WELL OR AT LEAST CONVINCES TO READ A BOOK BEFORE WE GET INTO WHAT I KNOW IS BURNING ON YOUR MIND AM I GOING TO GIVE YOU A DATE TODAY FOR WHEN THE PORT ROYAL LIBRARY WILL OPEN? I WANT TO GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT LIBRARIES ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S AMAZING BUT YOU GOT ME. OKAY.

WE'RE NOT QUITE FINISHED WITH THE YEAR ABOUT TEN MONTHS THROUGH OUR YEAR BUT THE STATISTICS ARE KEEPING US ON TRACK TO EXCEED OR AT LEAST AT THE VERY LEAST MATCH OUR PERFORMANCE FROM LAST YEAR. AS OF TODAY WE'VE HAD OVER 300,000 VISITORS TO OUR LOCATIONS. WE'VE ALSO OUT TO 461 EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR SO FAR TO SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THE LIBRARY. IN HOUSE WE'VE HOSTED ABOUT 1700 PUBLIC PROGRAMS EVERYTHING STORYTIMES TO BOOK CLUBS TO INFORMATION TOPICS TO COMPUTER HELP IN BETWEEN OUR PRINT AND DIGITAL CHECKOUTS WE PUT 694,000 ITEMS INTO THE HANDS OR EARS OF PEOPLE USING LIBRARY CARDS AND WE'VE HOSTED 1000 IN THREE MEETING ROOMS REQUESTS.

THAT'S JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT EVEN WITH THE YEAR BUT LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR LIBRARIES ARE BEING USED FOR BOOKS AND MORE AS WE SERVE AND SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY FOR LEARNING FOR LEISURE AND FOR LIFE. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ROYAL LOCATION. I'M VERY I FEEL LIKE A MOTHER AND EXPECTANT IN THAT LAST PHASE OF WAITING EXPECTING THE DELIVERY OF OUR NEWEST CHILD TO THE THIS LIBRARY IN PORT ROYAL WILL BE AT 1408 PARIS AVENUE. SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THAT IS APPROXIMATELY THOUSAND 500 SQUARE FEET TO GIVE YOU A VISUALIZATION OF THAT'S A LITTLE SMALLER THAN LIBBY GO.

THE PROJECT BUDGET YOU WERE YOU APPROVED AN AMENDMENT AN AMENDMENT FOR $660,000 TO BE PAID BY LIBRARY IMPACT COLLECTED IN THAT DISTRICT. OUR PROJECT MANAGER IS MARK SUTTON. THE CONTRACTOR HAS BEEN BEFORE CONSTRUCTION AND ONCE OPEN WILL HAVE A MULTIPURPOSE MEETING ROOM. IT WILL HAVE A GROUP ROOM.

WE'VE PRE ORDERED 5000 ITEMS FOR THE SHELVES. IT WILL HAVE OUR FREE FAX SCAN AND EMAIL SYSTEM AS WELL AS FREE WI AND PUBLIC COMPUTERS. SO LET ME JUST WHAT YOU KNOW HOW THIS PROJECT STARTED AND WHERE WE'RE AT NOW ABOUT ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO IN SEPTEMBER OUR LIBRARY BOARD APPROVED IDEA OF A LIBRARY AT 1408 PARIS AVENUE.

YOU ANNOUNCED IT IN OCTOBER . IN MARCH YOU MADE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN JUNE THROUGH SEPTEMBER. WENT THROUGH THE PROJECT BID AND REVIEW PROCESS AND SELECTED YOU FOR CONSTRUCTION AS THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE PROJECT IN

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SO LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE PIC SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT. THE PICTURE ON YOUR RIGHT IS WHERE WE STARTED. THE PICTURE ON YOUR LEFT IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE INSTALLED IRRIGATION AS WELL AS SIDE SO WE'RE WORKING ON BEAUTIFICATION OF THE EXTERIOR PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS WHERE WE STARTED IN THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW YOU CAN SEE WHAT A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE A LITTLE BIT OF GRASS CAN MAKE INTERIOR THE PICTURE ON RIGHT IS SOME OF THAT BEGINNING FRAMING WORK OF TRYING TO CARVE OUT A SERVICE DESK IN A WORKROOM FOR OUR STAFF IN THE WITH THE COLUMNS IS WHERE WE'RE AT NOW THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS WHERE WE'RE AT PRESENT DAY FLOORING HAS BEEN INSTALLED.

THE STARTING OF SHELVING HAS BEEN ERECTED. WE WE REPLACED THE LIGHTING AND WE HAVE RE GLAZED THE WINDOWS AND YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE SHOWS A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE BOTH TAKEN IN DAYLIGHT BUT THE DISTINCT DIFFERENCE IN THAT EXPERIENCE AND THEN ALSO WE'VE MADE A STUDY ROOM AND A KIDS AREA OUT OF THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT WAS WHAT WE STARTED WITH IN THE PICTURE. ON THE RIGHT IS WHAT WE HAVE WHEN WE DO HAVE AN OPENING DAY.

I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO SEE THAT CIRCULAR LIGHT IN THE KIDS ROOM.

I THINK IT WILL BE AN ATTRACTION FOR KIDS OF ALL AGES TO COME AND SEE IT CHANGES COLORS IF WE WANT IT TO OR IT CAN STAY STATIC. IT'S JUST A LITTLE FEATURE IN THERE TO. MAKE THE LIBRARY A LITTLE EXCITING.

SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? WHERE DO WE GET TO A MAGIC DATE THAT YOU CAN CIRCLE AND PLAN TO JOIN US FOR AN OPENING DAY? WE'RE NOT THERE YET BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE AND I WOULD LIKE I TELL MY STAFF AND I TELL PEOPLE WHO EMAIL AND CALL ME THAT EACH DAY BRINGS US CLOSER TO ABLE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION HERE'S WHY WE CAN'T CIRCLE A DATE JUST YET.

NUMBER ONE, WE HAVEN'T PASSED INSPECTION AND WE DON'T HAVE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE. WE HAVE TO GET THAT AND WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR CONTRACTOR TO GET TO THAT EVEN AS WE SPEAK THIS WEEK. THEN NEXT ONCE WE HAVE THAT ONCE WE HAVE THE KEYS TO THE BUILDING SO TO SPEAK AND WILL BE ABLE TO WORK WITH OUR IT DEPARTMENT TO, INSTALL THE I.T. EQUIPMENT WE NEED AS WELL AS INSTALL TABLES AND AND OTHER FURNITURE THAT WE'VE ORDERED AND THEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO SCHEDULE THE DELIVERY OF THOSE 5000 ITEMS EACH ONE OF THOSE ITEMS HAS TO BE TOUCHED BY OUR STAFF IN PROCESS SO THAT IT CAN BE FINDABLE ON OUR ONLINE CANDLE CATALOG AND ON THE SHELF.

WE'RE ALSO CONCURRENTLY COMPLETING THE EXTERIOR BEAUTIFICATION, ADDING SOME MORE GREENERY ADDING SOME MORE COLOR IN THE IN THE IN THE YARD AREA.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO COMPLETE THE SIGN NOW THAT THE NAMING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED WE'RE ALSO WORKING DILIGENTLY TO FINALIZE THE SELECTION OF THE STAFF THAT WILL BE WORKING IN THAT BUILDING THEN WE HAVE TO BRING THEM ON BOARD, TRAIN THEM AND GET THEM READY TO OPEN.

SO I HOPE THAT GIVES YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE HAVE TO GO I STILL REMAIN MY HEART IS SET ON OPENING THIS BUILDING THIS SUMMER.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. EXCELLENT REPORT.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NO, I WAS AT THE LIBRARY MEETING I'M GOING TO REPORT DURING THE A'S AND SHE TOOK SOME OF IT BUT. EVERYONE'S VERY EXCITED THIS IS GOING TO OPEN. DO YOU WANT TO MAYBE THEM ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO MEET BUSINESSES? OH I FORGET THE PICTURE THAT YOU SEE WITH A COUPLE OF OUR STAFF. I'M TAKING THE CAMERA I'M TAKING THE PHOTO BEHIND THE CAMERA BUT WE'RE UNDER THE BANNER THAT SAYS LIBRARY COMING DURING NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK WHICH YOU'VE MADE A PROCLAMATION TO CELEBRATE. WE TOOK WELCOME BAGS AND WALKED THE STREETS OF PARIS AVENUE LETTING LETTING ALL THE BUSINESSES KNOW WE'RE HAPPY TO JOIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT WE HOPE TO SEE THEM AT THE LIBRARY WHEN IT OPENS.

GREAT ONE. AND ALSO HOW MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW THAT YOU CAN OUT A PASS TO VISIT OUR PARKS GROUP MEMBER AND TELL THEM THAT WHEN I HAVE YEAH ONE OF THE THINGS LIKE I SAID EARLIER WE'RE MORE BOOKS WE ARE BOOKS BUT WE ARE ALSO MORE THAN BOOKS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COLLECTION THAT PEOPLE CAN CHECK OUT IS A IS A STATE PARK PASS. SO NOT ONLY FOR HUNTING ISLAND PARK HERE LOCALLY ALSO THE OTHER PARKS ACROSS THE STATE AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT AND CHECK IT OUT FOR TWO WEEKS.

SO IF YOU'RE TRAVELING TO THE UPSTATE YOU COULD ACTUALLY USE THAT TO VISIT THE PARK IN THE UPSTATE IF YOU SO CHOOSE. WELL BRAG ON OUR FRIENDS GROUPS ALL THROUGH YOUR FRIENDS GROUP LAST WEEK DECIDED THAT DUE TO INCREASING DEMAND IN THE IN THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM THEY'RE GOING TO BUY ADDITIONAL PASSES SO THAT WILL HAVE MORE TO CIRCULATE.

SO HOW MUCH WILL IT PASS REMIND IS HOW MUCH A PASS WOULD COST? PASSES ARE $99 A YEAR.

OKAY. SO THAT'S SAVING ALL OF US RESIDENTS $100.

YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

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BUT I'D LIKE TO MENTION THE FORMER CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION PASSED AWAY MAY 5TH AND THE FUNERAL WAS TODAY. I WAS COLONEL JIM HICKS SERVED AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER AND IT'S WITH SADNESS THAT HE IS GONE.

HE WAS A GREAT COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER AND DID A LOT OF THINGS IN COUNTY THROUGH HIS LEADERSHIP AND PLANNING PLAN AND NUMEROUS OTHER THINGS. HE'S A RETIRED FROM PARRIS ISLAND. YEAH, YEAH, IT WAS JIM HICKS I WORKED WITH HIM FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS AND YOU KNOW I WOULD SAY HE WAS A REAL TO ME AND HE WOULD STOP BY THE OFFICE EVERY THURSDAY AND BECAUSE IT WAS AFTER KIWANIS MEETING AND HE KIND OF SHOOK THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT, ASKED SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS AND KEPT US ON OUR TOES AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE YEARS I WORK HIM AND QUITE A LEADER IN GETTING LADIES ON BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS YES YEAH YEAH AND WHEN HE KIND OF STEPPED DOWN YOU COULD REALLY FEEL THE VOID AND OTHER PEOPLE HAD TO KIND OF STEP UP AND TAKE HIS PLACE WHICH EASY.

RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL ONE TO PROVIDE A REAL BRIEF UPDATE YOU KNOW AS YOU ARE AWARE LAST FALL THIS COMMITTEE ASKED US TO INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF A LADY'S ISLAND PLAN AND.

FROM THAT MEETING WE FORMED A WORKING GROUP MADE UP OF STAFF FROM THE CITY OF BEAUFORT TOWN OF PORT ROYAL IN ADDITION TO OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WITH THE COUNTY PLANNERS AND THE ENGINEERS TO LOOK AT WHAT NECESSARY ELEMENTS SHOULD BE IN THE PLAN WE PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT SCOPE OF WORK AND WE'VE BEEN KIND OF THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE CITY AT THEIR WORK IN MARCH. WE JUST WANT TO KIND OF KEEP THIS MOVING ALONG AND, MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S ON BOARD THIS PLAN WE WOULD INVOLVE RATHER ROBUST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD THING. SO WE WOULD BRING IN YOU KNOW, THROUGH A SERIES OF MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS IT WOULD BUILD ON PAST EFFORTS. AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE'VE YOU KNOW ,DID A PLAN FOR LADIES ISLAND. SO OUR GOAL WAS TO THEN TAKE THAT AND MOVE IT FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP FOR THE VILLAGE CENTER WHICH IS THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ON THE ISLAND IN ALL FOCUS ON COMMUNITY CHARACTER YOU KNOW EVERYTHING FROM ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS TO STREETSCAPES THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THAT'S NOT MY PHONE ISN'T FOCUSED ON THOSE THINGS IN ADDITION TO SOME TRANSPORTATION ISSUES INCLUDING CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND THEN TO ADDRESS SOME ITEMS THAT STILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED SUCH AS SCHOOL ACCESS. SO YOU KNOW WE WANT TO BRING IN ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS.

PART OF THE PLAN OUR NEXT STEPS ARE TO PUT OUT THERE TO GET SOME PRICES BEHIND IT.

AND I REALIZE WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS IS START THE RFP PROCESS ,HAVE SOME SOLID FIGURES AND THEN BEGIN THE DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SHARED SUPPORT FOR THAT PLAN. SO IS THERE A PLACE FOR I'M ASK ONE QUESTION AND I OPEN IT UP TO EVERYONE ELSE IS THERE A PLACE HOLDER OUR UPCOMING BUDGET FOR THIS IF YOU IF YOU'RE AWARE OF IT OR NOT I'M LOOKING YEAH IT CERTAINLY IS I MEAN IT SOUNDS LIKE A BIGGER SCOPE THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT. YES YEAH. YOU KNOW YEAH THANK YOU.

IT'S I WAS GOING TO SAY I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET BUT SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO BUT IT'S ALWAYS MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT, RIGHT? TYPICALLY WHAT WE WOULD DO IS PUT IT IN THE BUDGET HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THEN PUT THE RFP OUT ONCE WE HAVE THE MONEY SECURE BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PARTS WITHIN A MUNICIPAL OR MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL AGREEMENT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS PUT THIS RFP OUT THROUGH THE EARLY PARTS OF THE SUMMER NAILED DOWN SOME COSTS AND THEN COME BACK.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO DO SOME TYPE OF A BUDGET AMENDMENT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST SO WE DON'T WANT TO PUT A BUNCH OF MONEY IN THEN NOT USE IT OR WORSE OFF THAN THAT IS TO COME UP SHORT AND THEN NEGOTIATE SOME TYPE OF AN AGREEMENT AND NOT HAVE MONIES AVAILABLE. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE ONCE WE HAVE THE FIGURES WE WILL BRING THAT BACK WE WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW WHERE WE ARE.

WE'LL START DISCUSSIONS THE DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES FIGURE OUT WHO'S GOING TO DO WHAT, WHO'S GOING TO AGREE TO PAY TO WHAT. THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT DONE THEN CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ACTUAL PLAN ON TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

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I'LL WAIT AND SEE. WELL, LOOK, I THINK THAT KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR SOME TIME TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATION DONE AT LEAST YOU KNOW THAT YOU COMMITTED TO AND EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE THE YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT AMOUNT OR ENOUGH OR MAYBE TOO MUCH BUT YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE CAN EXPRESS TO THE MUNICIPALITIES YOU KNOW, WE ARE COMMITTED TO THIS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE COMMITTED AND OF .

SO I'M WITH YOU AS WELL. THIS IS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING APPROPRIATED FOR THIS ENTITY, THIS PROJECT. SO ALL THE WHO ARE WORKING ON THE BUDGET I'M LOOKING AT JOHN IS HE'S TAKING WE CAN WE CAN GIVE IT A BEST GUESS WE CAN INFORM JOHN OF WHAT WE THINK OUR PORTION WOULD BE BUT AGAIN IT'S A GUESS BUT BUT POINT BY POINT TAKE IT TO ME AT LEAST YOU PLANNING FOR IT VERSUS COMING BACK TO AMEND THEN PEOPLE SAID WELL WHY DIDN'T YOU PUT IT IN THERE UPFRONT? YOU KNOW THAT'S SURE. AND THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR SHARE OR WHAT THE AGREED PARTICIPATION LEVELS ARE GOING TO BE OR. YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. BUT WHAT YOU CAN TELL THE MUNICIPAL IS THAT THE COUNTY IS AT LEAST THINKING ABOUT ALLOCATING AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TOWARDS SOMETHING SO RIGHT.

I MEAN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR A COST SHARE SO POINT TAKEN. YES.

OKAY. THANK YOU WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE HIGH SCHOOL ACCESS AGENCY NUMBERS, YOU KNOW BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED IT OVER OVER A YEAR AGO, EVERYBODY GOT IT KIND OF THREW UP THEIR HANDS AND SAID HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS? SO I'M IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CHEAP WHATEVER. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CHEAP .

IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY COMPLEX THE THREE PILLARS ARE DEVELOPMENT PLANNING TRAFFIC AND ACCESS MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR.

EACH ONE OF THEM IS A VERY COMPLEX TOPIC AND THEN HAVE TO MAKE ALL THREE OF THEM WORK TOGETHER IN UNISON WITH A PLAN THAT ALL OF THE IS ALL OF THE PLAYERS INVOLVED CAN TO SO THIS THIS IS NOT A SHORT PROCESS IT'S A CHEAP PROCESS SO YOU WE'RE AT THE EARLY PHASES OF IT WE GET THIS RFP DONE, WE GET IT OUT, WE NAILING DOWN THE PIECES, THE PARTS, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND THEN WE LAY A PLAN INCREMENTALLY FORWARD FROM THAT POINT.

THAT WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE PROGRESS RATHER THAN JUST SPEAKING ABOUT HYPOTHETICALS OVER AND OVER WE CONCRETE INFORMATION THAT WE BRING BACK EVERYBODY'S PLAYING OFF THE SAME SHEET AND THEN WE CAN TAKE STEPS FORWARD THAT ARE CONCRETE THAN JUST HYPOTHETICAL.

OKAY OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANOTHER COMMENT I WOULD JUST MAKE SECONDS BECAUSE WHILE I WAS AT THE LAST PUBLIC INTEREST IN THE ONE SAYS REFERENDUM INFRASTRUCTURE TAX AND THIS IS FAIRLY BASICALLY YOU TALKED THIS COUNTY BASICALLY KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD DEALING WITH THE BEFORE HIGH SCHOOL ENTRANCE AND STUFF AND SOMEHOW SO AT SOME TIME WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT JUST THAT YOU KNOW WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND STUFF AND SO I THINK PLANNING THAT YOU KNOW WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES I THINK IS KEY SO SURE AND THAT'S EXCELLENT POINT AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.

BUT WE WANT TO DO IT IN A WAY WHERE AS WE GET THROUGH STEPS ONE, TWO AND THREE WE'VE MADE IT TO THAT POINT. NOW WE CAN GO ON TO STEP FOUR APPROPRIATING FUNDS.

WE HAVE A SET PLAN EVERYBODY'S AGREED TO SO THAT WE'RE NOT GOING BACK AND FORTH CONSTANTLY LIKE WE'VE DONE IN PAST YEARS. OKAY, I'M GREAT. THANK YOU.

[8. PRESENTATION OF FRIENDS OF FORT FREMONT 2023 ANNUAL REPORT (Part 1 of 2)]

ALL RIGHT. AS I DID FOR THE REPORTS. OKAY.

THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS PRESENTATION OF FRIENDS OF FOUR FREMONT 2023 ANNUAL REPORT BARNEY FORSYTH PRESIDENT THE FRIENDS OF FREMONT AND EVERYONE IN RED EVERYONE RED THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRWOMAN WITH YOU MEMBERS THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMITTEE AS YOU MENTIONED MY NAME IS BARNEY FORSYTH. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF FORD FREMONT FOR THIS YEAR WE ARE REQUIRED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO PRESENT A ANNUAL TO THE PASSING PARKS DIRECTOR AND SO I'LL BE PROVIDING YOU A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THAT REPORT FROM LAST YEAR 2023. BEFORE I DO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR PAST PRESIDENT WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT DURING 2023.

WENDY WELLS WENDY, THANKS FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. APPRECIATE IT.

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THE FRIENDS OF FORT FREMONT WAS FORMED IN 2009 WITH THIS AS A MISSION TO BE PART OF A COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY TO SUPPORT THE PRESERVATION AND PROMOTION OF THIS PARTICULAR FORT. AND WE TAKE OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY AT LARGE AND PARTICULARLY FOR OUR FRIENDS NEIGHBORS ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND THAT'S VERY TO US AND WE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR WHAT WE DO. I'M GOING TO BE HIGHLIGHTING THESE PARTICULAR TOPICS VERY BRIEFLY THAT ARE PART OF OUR REPORT.

FIRST IS THE HISTORY CENTER OPERATIONS THE COUNTY OPEN, THE HISTORY CENTER YEARS AGO.

WE BEGAN INITIALLY STAFFING IT ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAYS AND BECAUSE OF INTEREST IN THE CENTER OPENED IT ON SUNDAYS AS WELL AND AS CAN SEE LAST YEAR WE HAD ALMOST 1900 VOLUNTEER HOURS TO SUPPORT OVER THOUSAND VISITORS TO FORT FREMONT AND THIS IS A PERCENT INCREASE IN PARTICIPATION AT THE 45 STATES AND TEN FOREIGN COUNTRIES WERE REPRESENTED.

IN ADDITION WE PRESENTED 17 TOURS AND SEMINAR TO VARIOUS GROUPS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

WE ALSO DEVELOPED SMARTPHONE APPLICATION THAT GIVES A SELF-GUIDED TOUR OF THE FORT AND WE HAD ALMOST 870 DOWNLOADS OF THAT. SO THOSE WERE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE VISITING THE FORT MAYBE AT A TIME WHEN THE HISTORY CENTER WASN'T OPEN BUT STILL WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE HISTORY THAT'S ON TOUR IN ADDITION TO THOSE VOLUNTEER HOURS WE HAD 300 VOLUNTEER HOURS IN FACILITIES AND GROUNDS OF COMMITTEE DOING GENERAL WORK ,VEGETATION REMOVAL AND CLEANING UP THE BATTERIES IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY THAT ALSO MAINTAINS THE FORT PROPERTY. WE TAKE PARTICULAR PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THE BATTERIES AND TO LEAF AND VEGETATION REMOVAL IN THAT LOCATION SOME 300 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER WORK THAT AS WELL IN ADDITION TO THE WORK THAT WE IN THE HISTORY CENTER WE ALSO DO EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH WITH THE GOAL OF GETTING CHILDREN IN BEAUFORT COUNTY EXCITED ABOUT HISTORY, ABOUT BEAUFORT COUNTY IN ABOUT FORT FREMONT OUR PROGRAM IS GEARED TO GRADES FIVE AND EIGHT WHICH FOCUS ON THAT PARTICULAR ERA IN HISTORY.

LAST YEAR WE HAD FOUR SCHOOL GROUPS GO. IN ADDITION WE PRESENTED PARTICIPATED IN THE PENN CENTER HERITAGE DAYS WHICH BRINGS SCHOOL KIDS IN AS WELL.

AND SO WE WERE PARTNERS PENN CENTER IN TELLING THE FORT FREMONT STORY AS WELL.

WE HAVE A GROUP WORKING ON A TRAVELING TRUNK WHICH WILL HAVE ARTIFACTS FROM FORD, FREMONT AND FROM THAT ERA THAT WE WILL TAKE AROUND TO THE SCHOOL. SO IN ADDITION TO INVITING SCHOOLCHILDREN AND SCHOOL GROUPS TO COME TO THE FORT, WE WILL TAKE THE FORT TO THEM AS WELL SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO GET OUT AND INVOLVED IN THE SCHOOLS .

WE ALSO HAVE A ROBUST COMMUNITY OUTREACH THIS YEAR. THIS PAST YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME WE HOSTED HARVEST FESTIVAL IN THE FALL THAT OVER 300 PEOPLE TO THE FORT ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT OF MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL THE LIKE WE HOSTED THANKS TO CECILE DORR WHO IS A PAST PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF FORD FREMONT AND OWNS THE HER HOME WHICH WAS THE HOSPITAL FORT THE FORD FOR THE HOSPITAL SHE OPENED UP HER HOME OVER THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS FOR TOURS AND THAT ATTRACTED MANY FOLKS TO COME THROUGH THE OLD HOSPITAL. WELL, AND THAT WAS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GARDEN CLUB. WE HAVE DONE COMMUNITY PRESENTATIONS TO A VARIETY OF GROUPS THAT ARE LISTED THERE AND WE ALSO PARTICIPATE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AT LAND'S END IN THE LAND'S END 4TH OF JULY PARADE WE'RE PREPARING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY OF BEAUFORT MEMORIAL DAY PARADE COMING UP AS WELL IN IN ANOTHER FEW DAYS.

WE HAVE A PRESENCE SOCIAL MEDIA YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE ABOUT 1900 FOLLOWERS ON OUR FACEBOOK WHICH IS AGAIN AN INCREASE OF ALMOST 20% FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH

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SO WE WE'RE CONTINUING CONTINUING TO DRAW ATTENTION AND ATTRACT PEOPLE TO FORT FREMONT. WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST MARKETING AND YOU CAN SEE A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WE DO THERE. WE'VE PUBLISHING A NEWSLETTER NOW SO THAT WE TELL MORE IN-DEPTH STORIES THE HISTORY OF THE FORT AND THE AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED AT THE FORT AND LIVED THE LOCAL COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD. WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO ENHANCE THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE OF FORT FREMONT AND I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT A COUPLE OF EXCITING PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING. THE FIRST IS THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING ARTIFACTS AND REPLICAS THAT ARE REFLECTIVE OF THE FORT WHEN IT WAS AN.

THE FIRST THAT WILL GO UP WE HOPE THIS COMING FRIDAY IS A DELIVERY TABLE DELIVERY TABLE WAS A DEVICE THAT WAS AT THE TOP OF THE ELECTRONIC HOIST THAT BROUGHT THE ROUNDS UP THE ROUNDS THEN FELL INTO THE DELIVERY TABLE WHICH THEN ALLOWED A CREW TO LOAD THEM ONTO A AMMO CART WHICH WAS USED TO BREACH LOAD AROUND THE COUNTY APPROVED A LOAN OF A DELIVERY TABLE FROM BATTERY THOMPSON ON SULLIVAN'S ISLAND WHICH WE THEN BROUGHT TO FORT FREMONT AND CLEANED UP AND PAINTED AND THAT WILL BE DISPLAYED THERE AS WELL.

WE HAVE A DAVID A DAVID IS A MECHANICAL HOIST THAT WAS ACTUALLY AT FORT FREMONT.

WE FOUND IT AS WE WERE DOING CLEAN UP AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CLEANING UP THE DAMAGE SO WE CAN DISPLAY THAT AS WELL. WE'VE ALSO TAKEN STEPS AND HAVE PROCURED A REPLICA OF WHAT A TEN INCH GUN PROJECTILE WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WE HOPE TO DISPLAY THAT ON THE DELIVERY TABLE WHEN THAT'S AVAILABLE AND WE ARE WORKING WITH A LOCAL CONTRACTOR TO DEVELOP A REPLICA OF THE AMMO CARD ITSELF. ALL OF THESE WILL BE DISPLAYED INITIALLY ON THE PATIO THAT'S NEXT TO THE HISTORY CENTER AS WELL SO PEOPLE CAN GET A SENSE FOR SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE THERE. WE HAVE AN EXCITING PROJECT WHICH WE HAVE ACTUALLY NAMED AFTER DAWES HUSBAND KARL WHO WAS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE FRIENDS OF FORT FREMONT. IT'S CALLED THE CORAL IN HIS MEMORY AND THAT IS TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF RECREATING WHAT GUN NUMBER ONE AT BATTERY. JESUP AND YOU SEE THE PICTURE THERE WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE WHEN THE FORT WAS IN OPERATION .

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF RAISING THE FUNDS TO DO A STUDY THAT WILL TELL US WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO BRING THE GUN POSITION AND THE AREA UNDERNEATH THAT UP TO SAFETY STANDARDS SO THAT WE CAN CREATE A PLACE THAT WILL LOOK FORT FREMONT LOOKED WHEN IT WAS IN OPERATION OVER LATED PROJECT TO THAT WHICH IS VERY EXCITING AND GETS FORT AND BEAUFORT COUNTY ON THE NATIONAL STAGE IS THE WE PARTNERING WITH THE HISTORY DEPARTMENT AT THE U.S. MILITARY ACADEMY AT WEST POINT TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY DEVELOPING A DIGITAL VIRTUAL SIMULATION OF WHAT THE FORT LOOKED LIKE WHEN IT WAS IN OPERATION A 3D WHICH COULD BE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE HOSTED BY THE HISTORY DEPARTMENT AT WEST POINT BUT A LINK AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB SITE WHICH WE THINK WILL REALLY DRAW PEOPLE TO BEAUFORT COUNTY AND INTO THE FORT AS WELL.

IT'S A VERY EXCITING PROJECT WE WILL HAVE CADETS AND FACULTY MEMBERS FROM WEST POINT'S HISTORY DEPARTMENT HERE ON SITE NEXT SPRING BREAK NEXT SPRING TO BEGIN THE FIRST PART OF THIS EFFORT AND WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED ON THAT AS WELL AND WE HAVE A GROUP OF FOLKS THAT'S WORKING ON DEVELOPING A COFFEE TABLE BOOK ON THE HISTORY OF FORT FREMONT AND THE HISTORY OF OF IN THAT AREA. AND WE WE HOPE THAT THAT PROJECT PROGRESS IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO GOING FORWARD SO WE'LL BE ABLE TELL THE FORT STORY NOT ONLY LIVE AT THE FORT ITSELF BUT WITH A WITH A BOOK OR WITH A DOCUMENT GOING FORWARD.

OKAY. I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR PATSY PARKS DIRECTOR STEPHANIE EDGETT. SHE HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER TO WORK WITH I THINK THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE TAXPAYERS IN COUNTY FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE WAY IN WHICH SHE REPRESENTS ALL OF US BUT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PARTNER FOR US AT THE FRIENDS OF FORT FREMONT WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP AND WE COULDN'T DO IT COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT AND I WANT TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT.

THANK YOU, STEPHANIE. AND FINALLY THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT PARTICULARLY

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YOU KNOW THESE THESE ARE REAL GOOD PEOPLE TO HANG OUT WITH. YOU KNOW I ENJOYED BEING THERE AND I ENJOYED THE CHRISTMAS TREE THAT MISS DAWES HOUSE THAT WAS REALLY FOR ME WAS MY WIFE.

WE ENJOYED THE HOSPITALITY EXTENDED BUT ALSO HOME THE FRIENDS OF FORT FREMONT HAS WHAT I CONSIDER IT INCORPORATED THE COMMUNITY AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CARL'S PROJECT TO TO BE EXCITING.

WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS TO MY TEAM I NEED TO MAYBE GO BACK THE AGENDA.

JOHN ROBERTSON I WAS I THINK ANDRE WANTED TO INTRODUCE BEN. YES.

OKAY WE CAN WE CAN JUMP BACK TO THAT GROUP. OKAY.

I THINK THEY'RE OUT IN THE HALLWAY. I APOLOGIZE AS I SAW GET UP AND

[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT (Part 2 of 2)]

I APOLOGIZE, BEN, FOR SKIPPING. I UNDERSTAND. GOOD AFTERNOON.

IT IS AN HONOR. ACCEPT THIS POSITION AS A HUMAN SERVICES DIRECTOR I'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR ALMOST 11 YEARS NOW AND THE ENTIRETY OF THAT TIME HAS SPENT WITH THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT. IT'S PROBABLY LITTLE LESS THAN A THIRD OF MY LIFETIME WITH WITH THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT THE MISSION OF THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS TO STRENGTHEN THE NETWORK OF HUMAN SERVICES OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH ADVOCACY, COLLABORATION AND WE'RE OFTEN CONFUSED WITH HUMAN RESOURCES. WE'RE NOT HUMAN RESOURCES.

WE GET CALLED ALL THE TIME TO 552990 NOT US. WE'RE ALSO OFTEN CONFUSED WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES WHICH HANDLES MEDICAID SO WE ARE DISTINCT FROM BOTH OF THOSE LOTS OF CONFUSION WITH THAT UNDERSTANDABLY SIMILAR NAMES GOT A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS COMING DOWN THE PIKE. WE HAVE A NEW LOGO BEING ROLLED OUT. HANNAH NICHOLS WAS KIND ENOUGH TO HELP DESIGN.

I HAVE NO ARTISTIC TALENT WHATSOEVER SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.

AND A RAMIREZ WHO HAS BEEN BEFORE YOU GUYS PRESENTING ON ISSUES OF HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING AND SECURITY HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO OUR PROGRAM. SO WE HAVE HER REPLACEMENT COMING IN AT THE END OF THE MONTH. WE HAVE A LOT OF PLANS IN THAT ARENA AND. I LOOK FORWARD TO GIVING YOU GUYS SOME UPDATES SOON.

I THINK LASTLY AND VERY IMPORTANTLY THE HUMAN SERVICES COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANT PROCESS IS COMING UP PRETTY SOON WE HAVE THE GRANT APPLICATION BEING REVIEWED, WE'LL HAVE THE UPDATES IMPLEMENTED VERY SOON THAT SHOULD GO LIVE INTO MAY EARLY JUNE AND I'LL BE BEFORE YOU GUYS IN THE FALL OR EARLY FALL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT COMMITTEE AND A QUESTION FOR YOU HOW MANY AGENCIES DO YOU USUALLY HAVE APPLY FOR THOSE ID RANGES? SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 AND 40. TYPICALLY IT FALLS THE 30 RANGE BUT WE'VE SEEN IT SPIKE FROM YEAR TO YEAR. I THINK THE HIGHEST WE EVER GOTTEN IS AROUND 45. I THINK THAT WAS LIKE MID-PANDEMIC I THINK THE LOWEST WE EVER GOTTEN IS SOMETHING AROUND 25 AND I COULDN'T TELL YOU THERE'S NO OR REASON AS TO WHAT OR WHY HAS IT COMES AND WANES BUT TYPICALLY IT'S COMES AROUND 35 AGENTS AND WELL CONGRATULATIONS AND ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IT'S BEEN HERE FOR ONE.

[8. PRESENTATION OF FRIENDS OF FORT FREMONT 2023 ANNUAL REPORT (Part 2 of 2)]

ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO OUR REGULARLY AGENDA SCHEDULED AGENDA MISSTEP STEPHANIE IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT A VERY IMPORTANT VOLUNTEER AGREEMENT WITH THE FRIENDS OF FORT FREMONT. I KNOW THIS HAS TAKEN A LOT OF WORK. YEAH IT GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR COMMITTEE STEPHANIE PAST PARKS DIRECTOR AS YOU HEARD WITH THE BERNIE GAVE THE FRIENDS FOR FREMONT ARE ESSENTIAL FOR THE OPERATION OF FORT FREMONT PRESERVE WITH ALL THE WORK THEY DO NOT ONLY

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THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND THANK AGAIN THANK YOU THANK YOU TO THE FRIENDS OF THE FORT FREMONT. YES. OKAY.

[10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE GOVERNOR OF SOUTH CAROLINA FOR THE NOMINATION OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY “CAROLINA BRIGHT” ESTUARY SYSTEM INTO THE NATIONAL ESTUARY SYSTEM]

IS THERE ANYONE ON STAFF THAT IS GOING TO SPEAK TO THIS LET'S LOOK INTO THIS IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL CORRECT? IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL. I DRAFTED THE PROPOSAL MAY EXPECT THAT IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO WIN THAT RIGHT FORTH AND ASK THE CHAIRMAN TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE ANYTHING IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S IN THE RESOLUTION OR ON THE AS TO ADD TO IT AT THIS POINT.

OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU THE OTHER DAY WHEN MR. STUART WAS HERE HE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT AND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS NOT ONLY TO THE PORT ROYAL SOUND BUT OTHER ALL OF OUR RESOURCES BUT ALSO TO UCB BEAUFORT IT WILL KIND OF HELP GET THINGS GOING AND IT NEEDS TO AT THE NATIONAL IF WE GET THIS RESOLUTION THROUGH FOR THE NATIONAL STORY SO I'M JUST SUMMING UP LIKE THAT DO I HAVE A MOTION TO FORWARD THIS MOTION? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE A SECOND? YEAH, WE'VE WELL I THINK COUNCILMAN DAWSON SECONDED SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.

I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHERE IT IS. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS AND STUFF AND IT WAS IN THE PORT OIL SO AND THE MUST BE I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT I HIGHLY SUPPORT SUPPORTED AND STUFF I JUST WISH SHE WAS HERE TO TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ALL OVER THE COUNTY YOU IS 22,000 HUNDRED AND 75,000 ACRES OF SALT MARSH SO I THINK YOU PROBABLY TAKES UP AN AWFUL LOT . I THINK IT DOES THAT'S A DESCRIPTION OF ONE OVERDUE FOR INCLUSION OF NATIONAL PROGRAMS WE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROBABLY 20 YEARS AGO INCLUDED IN THE GREAT IDEA YEAH WELL IT WILL BRING A LOT OF GOOD THINGS OKAY WITHOUT ANY OTHER COMMENTS WITHOUT OBJECTION THIS WILL GO AND IT WILL BE A NOT COUNTY

[11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY AND TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROCUREMENT BY THE APPLICANT OF FEE SIMPLE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND, KNOWN AS THE MITCHELVILLE TRACT (PIN# R510 005 000 0007 0000), NOT TO EXCEED THE FINAL VALUE AS DETERMINED BY A NEW APPRAISAL AFTER THE COMPLETION OF AN UPDATED PLAT, RESOLUTION OF ALL LEGAL ISSUES/CLAIMS, CONTINGENT UPON FULL LEGAL DESCRIPTION, AND SHALL REQUIRE THAT ANY FUNDS RECEIVED FROM GRANTS, PRIVATE, FEDERAL, OR STATE FUNDING BE USED SOLELY TO REIMBURSE THE EXPENDITURE OF THE GREEN SPACE PROGRAM (FISCAL IMPACT: TBD – Final amount is unknown until staff completes and reviews necessary due diligence in accordance with the Green Space Advisory Committee’s recommendation and Green Space Program guidelines)]

NUMBER 11 THIS IS A LONG ONE. OKAY. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY AND TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROCUREMENT BY THE APPLICANT OF FEE SIMPLE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND KNOWN AS MITCHELL WILL TRACK ON PIN NUMBERS ARE 510 005000000070000 NOT TO EXCEED THE FINAL VALUE AS DETERMINED BY A NEW APPRAISAL AFTER THE COMPLETION OF AN UPDATED PLANT RESOLUTION ALL LEGAL ISSUES SLASH CLAIMS CONTINGENT ON FULL LEGAL DESCRIPTION AND SHALL REQUIRE THAT ANY FUNDS RECEIVED FROM

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AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UPON MIKE MCSHANE WHO'S CHAIRMAN OF THE SPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THEN WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND PROBABLY ANOTHER MOTION.

WOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMITTEE TO HAVE BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMITTEE FOR A LEGAL REVIEW. YES, SIR.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COMMITTEE CONSIDER TAKING A MOTION TO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE FIRST SO FIRST ASK YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, GET A SECOND THEN GO INTO DISCUSSION. THEN WE COULD GO INTO EXECUTIVE I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. I HAVE A SECOND. OKAY, TEN MINUTE SECONDS AND THEN JIM WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO AND EXECUTIVE SESSION TO GET LEGAL BRIEFING.

YEAH, PERFECT. PERFECT. OKAY, NOW I HAVE A MOTION TO GO AND HAVE A SECOND TO GO AND EXECUTIVE SESSION. GOT IT.

NO OBJECTION. OH NOW WITHOUT OBJECTION WE WILL GO IN . YEAH, WE'RE BACK AND WE'RE BACK IS EVERYTHING.

WE'RE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION IT WAS MADE FOR NUMBER 11. UM CHAIRMAN CLIFFORD QUESTION DO YOU WANT EXPLAIN THE PROJECT? YES THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR PACKAGE THE DRAWINGS BUT WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE EXPLANATION AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE ON.

SO RECOMMENDATION CHAIRMAN IS FROM YOUR AGREEMENT FOR THIS COMMITTEE IS HAVE THE COMMITTEE SUPPORT YOUR COMMITTEE SUPPORT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO COUNCIL WITH THE STIPULATION ON OUR UPDATED APPRAISAL PROCESS SOME OF THE OTHER DUE DILIGENCE THAT IS ONGOING AS WE SPEAK INCLUDING AT SOME POINT JUST TO SET AN EXPECTATION OTHER DOLLARS THAT WE CAN SECURE THAT MAY COME BACK TO GREENSPACE BUT THAT COULD BE 1218 MONTHS SORT OF TIME CYCLE BASED ON SORT OF THE FEDERAL AND STATE FISCAL YEARS. OKAY.

ON THAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCSHANE? ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. CAN I MAKE THAT MOTION? NO, NO, WE ARE NOT ENGAGED.

I'VE BEEN MADE COUNCILMAN GLOVER MADE IT. IT WAS SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MCCORMICK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WITHOUT OBJECTION, THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD TO FULL COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.

[12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH BEAUFORT COUNTY’S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PRIORITY LIST]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NUMBER 12 THIS IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH FOR COUNTIES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PRIORITY LIST SO MOVEMENT DO WE WANT TO HEAR YOU OUT OF HERE BEFORE? THAT'S RIGHT. WHATEVER YOU HEAR FROM HER.

OKAY, LET'S HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT, SECOND.

MS.. CAVANAGH, THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN DAWSON AND GO FORWARD WHEN YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT THIS THIS RESOLUTION IS BROUGHT FORWARD AFTER MICHELLE KNIGHT WINS LOWCOUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS PRESENTS CBD PROGRAM TO COUNCIL WHICH SHE DID ON APRIL 22ND. SO THIS IS A RESOLUTION FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PRIORITY LIST MANAGER MM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND IT AFTER CONVERSATION WITH MS. ANTONACCI. IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 44 IN OUR PACKET, THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION UNDER ONE IT SAYS PROVIDE NEW QUANTIFIABLE PUBLIC SERVICES WE SHOULD END IT AND MY MOTION IS TO END THAT FIRST SENTENCE AFTER INDIVIDUALS AND REMOVE AND ARE NEEDED TO PREPARE FOR RESPOND TO OR PREVENT SPREAD OF SPREAD OF COVID. THAT'S OLD LANGUAGE WE AGREE THAT IT NEEDS TO COME OUT YES I HAVE A SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT SECOND BUT COUNCILMAN DAWSON WE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT FIRST WITHOUT OBJECTION THAT WILL BE AMENDED WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION WE IN DISCUSSION THE MOTION WE CAN LOOK I SAID WITHOUT OBJECTION THAT'S OKAY YEAH WELL THE DISCUSSION I WANTED TO CALL A COUPLE OF THINGS I SPOKE TO MISS CINCINNATI ABOUT I ASKED ABOUT IF YOU CAN PUT THAT BACK UP THIS YEAR IF THOSE

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THEY APPLIED IN 2022 AND IT WAS THIS FOR THE STUART POINT PATHWAY FOR $200,000.

OKAY THANKS. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY.

I THINK THE YEAR BEFORE WAS BONAIRE SEWAGE HOOKUPS IN 21 NEIGHBORHOOD I RECALL CORRECTLY SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE RUN AND JUST JUST A COMMENT IF YOU PUT THAT BACK UP ON THE SCREEN ITEM, NUMBER FOUR MAY WELL BECOME A PRIORITY. YEAH.

MM HMM. YES, SIR. OKAY.

A PLAN OUT THERE TO ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER FOUR. YES, SIR THANK YOU.

THAT WAS WHAT I ASKED IS THIS IN ORDER PRIORITY? COULD SOMEONE ORDER THESE THESE ARE ALWAYS PRIORITIES SOMETIMES SOMETHING COMES UP AND POPS UP AND NUMBER FOUR IS NOW POPPING POPPING UP AS A PRIORITY YOU MEAN COUNTY OR A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD? BOTH. OKAY. WELL I KNOW THERE'S SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN MY DISTRICT. YES. THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A PRIORITY AND I'M SURE THERE'S OTHERS TOO. SO YES.

OKAY VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND WE PASSED THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION. YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON BEFORE BEFORE WE DO THE NEXT ONE WITH MR. HOLBERT AND THEN ALSO CHRIS KIMBALL IS GOING TO COME UP THIS IS NUMBER 13 WHICH IS

[13. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 38 ENVIRONMENT, ARTICLE VI SINGLE USE PLASTIC BAGS SECTION 38-161, PURPOSE; SECTION 38-162 DEFINITIONS; SECTION 38-163 REGULATIONS; AND SECTION 38-164 EXEMPTIONS OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES]

THIS WAS KIND OF PUT ON HOLD DURING COVID WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT REVISING THE PLASTIC BAG CODE FOR A WHILE BUT THEN HIT AND WE DECIDED TO WAIT AS AS CHAIRMAN OF THIS COMMITTEE I MADE THAT DECISION BUT NOW THE TIME HAS COME AND I WANT TO GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT.

THE BEAUTIFUL COMMITTEE AND COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE GAVE US SOME HELP AND EVEN TONIGHT THEY GAVE US SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS AND WE HAVE I CAN ANTICIPATE SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY TO TALK ABOUT AND ALSO WITH ALL THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS BECAUSE NEED THEIR BUY IN EITHER TO ADOPT WHATEVER WE ADOPT THIS IS KIND OF A I WON'T CALL IT A STRAW DOG BUT IT'S OUR OUR FIRST DRAFT WE'LL JUST CALL IT FIRST DRAFT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC AND GET COMMENTS FROM BUSINESSES AND OTHER PEOPLE. SO I'LL LET MR. HARBERT GO OVER IT AND THEN CHRIS COME ON UP TO AND YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE RESEARCH BEHIND THIS AND HOW YOU CAME IF YOU DON'T MIND. CHRIS CAMPBELL IS CHAIRMAN OF KEEP BE FOR BEAUTIFUL.

HIS COMMITTEE DID A LOT OF WORK ON RESEARCH AND DIFFERENT THINGS IN OUR STATE THAT ARE GOING ON. GOOD AFTERNOON. BRIAN HOFER, DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY UM, I KIND OF GOT BACKED INTO THIS. I WAS IN THE HALLWAY AND THAT'S HOW I SAW ME AND SHE HANDED IT TO ME AND NORMALLY WOULD BE OUR SOLID WASTE AND THAT DEPARTMENT HANDLING THIS BUT MR. DECI HAS LEFT THE EMPLOYMENT OF GUILFORD COUNTY SO I DIDN'T WANT IT TO LANGUISH SO I WENT AHEAD AND CONVERTED THE ORDINANCE THAT THEY PUT FORTH TO MS. HOWARD INTO OUR FORMAT AND PREPARED IN A YES AND THEN RAN FORWARD HOPING THAT THEY'D HAVE A REPLACEMENT FOR MR. DECIDE BY THIS TIME BUT APPARENTLY NOT SO I'LL BEGIN THE DISCUSSION EVEN THOUGH I'VE GOT NO EXPERTIZE IN THIS AREA BUT I WILL NOTE THAT IN AS MR. HOWARD SAID IN JANUARY 2018 COUNTY PASSED AN ORDINANCE BANNING SINGLE USE PLASTIC BAGS.

THAT WAS THE START OF THE BAN TOWARDS PLASTIC. THE MUNICIPALITIES CAME IN LINE ABOUT THE SAME TIME WHERE EVERYBODY IN COUNTY HAS BANNED SINGLE USE PLASTIC BAGS WITH

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WE ARE NOW AT THE POINT WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION AS TO SHOULD WE TAKE THE NEXT STEP FORWARD LIKE PALMS DID SHALL WE GO AHEAD AND BAN ALL PLASTIC BAGS PLASTIC STRAWS, POLYSTYRENE CONTAINERS FOR FOOD AND DRINK LIKE THE STYROFOAM CUPS FOR DRINKS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT THERE'S PROBABLY HALF PEOPLE THAT TO BAN IT AND HALF THAT DON'T WANT TO VOTE. THEY LIKE THE CONVENIENCE BUT ENCOURAGE YOU TO LISTEN TO WHAT MR. CAMPBELL IN HIS COMMUNITY HIS COMMITTEE DISCUSSED HOW THEY REACHED THE AGREEMENT THEY PUT FORTH FOR DISCUSSION AND THEN TAKE IT TO THE NEXT STEP AND HEAR FROM THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS, THE STORES, RESTAURANTS, FOOD TRUCKS, PLACES THAT AS FAR AS THE IMPACT ON THEM AND THEN THE PUBLIC AS FAR AS THEIR CONVENIENCE WHAT DO THEY WANT TO DO? IS THERE A COMPROMISE IN THERE OR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN I GUESS WITH I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. CAMPBELL TO DISCUSS AS FAR AS WHY THEY ARE PROPOSING TO BAN STRAWS THE BAGS AND THE POLYSTYRENE IN WHAT THEY GOT TO SAY. OKAY. THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL MADAM COUNCILMAN, IF I CAN GIVE THESE OUT IN PERSON. OKAY. AND WHILE HE'S DOING THAT I DON'T SEE US TAKING ANY ACTION TODAY IS JUST A GIVE AND TAKE DISCUSSION AND THEN WE'LL WORK ON SETTING UP SOME MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH THE MUNICIPAL AND I KNOW WE'RE HERE FROM A RETAILER SO THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY RECOMMENDATION AND WE'LL SET THEM UP IN THE COMMUNITY SO I KNOW COUNCILMAN DAWSON REMEMBERS WE HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS. WE MET OUT ROYAL BRANCH, WE MET BERRY CREEK AND I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THE PLACES WE MET BUT WE'LL MAKE A LIST. OKAY YOU'RE YOU GOT IT FOR EVERYBODY MY NAME IS CHRIS CAMPBELL. I'M CHAIRMAN OF KEEP BEAUFORT COUNTY BEAUTIFUL. WE'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME. I'VE GOT MEMBERS ON MY BOARD BEEN FOR 40 YEARS SO IT'S MAYBE 40. YEAH WELL WHEN THE BOARD THEN IT BUT NEVERTHELESS IT WAS A PART OF BEAUFORT COUNTY AND WE YOU NAME AND WE WE WENT TO WORK ON THIS THIS DIDN'T JUST POP UP WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A WHILE WE'VE KNOWN HAD TO DO IT I'VE MADE SEVERAL TRIPS I'VE GONE TO CHARLESTON, I'VE TALKED THE PEOPLE IN CHARLESTON.

WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE PEOPLE ON THE ISLE OF PALMS I MEAN WE'VE WORKED ON THIS AND WITH BOTTOM LINE IS WE WE THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS AND IT'S OUR JOB IS KEEP BEAUFORT COUNTY BEAUTIFUL TO RECOMMEND TO YOU WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS POP UP AND WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY FOR YOU TO DO THIS SO HERE I AM IN FRONT OF YOU WE WE WE VOTED A MET AND ANIMOSITY TO AMEND THE PLASTIC BAG TO BAN ONE TIME USE PLASTIC BAGS ALTOGETHER PEOPLE GOT TO BRING BAGS I MEAN IT'S A FACT OF LIFE I REALLY DON'T THINK I'M TELLING ANYBODY HERE SOMETHING ALREADY KNOW STYROFOAM CUPS AND CONTAINERS I ASSUME IN A RIVER ALL THE TIME I'M OUT THERE ALL THE TIME PLASTIC CUPS, UTENSILS IS JUST NOT NECESSARY. PLASTIC STRAWS MY GOD, THEY MAKE A GREAT PAPER.

STRAW PAPER IS THE INDUSTRY AND SAVE SOUTH CAROLINA ONE OF THE BIGGEST INDUSTRIES AND IT'S YOU LITTLE BETTER THAN PLASTIC ANYWAY OUR CURRENT LANDFILLS ARE ABOUT TO MAX OUT WE ALL KNOW THAT TOO. I THINK TO CREATE A NEW LANDFILL WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO UP TO A COUNTY NEIGHBORING COUNTY THAT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A DISASTER TO TO BUILD A

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PALMS NORTH MYRTLE BEACH, CAMDEN, LITTLE EDISTO ISLAND UP THE ROAD IS ALREADY IN A BAN AND ALL THIS STUFF ON MOUNT PLEASANT, SEABROOK ISLAND, SURFSIDE BEACH THE BIGGER CITIES COLUMBIA IT'S ON THE TABLE SAVANNAH GEORGIA IT'S ON THE TABLE.

JACKSONVILLE ON THE TABLE. JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA YEAH REALLY THEY HAVE A BIG PUSH DOWN THERE ON MYRTLE BEACH AND IT IT'S CLOSE TO BEING, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTED THERE.

SO IT'S IT'S COMING. WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S COMING. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD YOU KNOW, WE COULD GIVE SOME TIME TO SWITCH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GIVE A YEAR OR SO ANYWAY WE COULD HELP THE SMALL BUSINESSES WE'RE NOT OUT TO TO HURT SMALL BUSINESS IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. BUT AGAIN, EVERYBODY'S THIS IS COMING STYROFOAM PLASTIC IT'S NOT GOOD THINGS FOR US TO HAVE OUT THERE IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

DO WE WANT TO OPEN IT? WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AT THIS SHOW IF I CAN I'LL TRY TO AND TRY YEAH ANY QUESTIONS OR I MEAN WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TALK THIS OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO. THIS IS THE BEGINNING BEGINNING BY US MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION TO START THE PROCESS OF THE ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU. JUST LIKE WE DO EVERYTHING THERE IS TO BE TREMENDOUS INPUT GATHERED FROM ALL FACTIONS BEFORE WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE. SO TONIGHT IS THE BEGINNING I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THIS AND BEGIN THE PROCESS. I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.

YOU MADE THAT A MOTION? YES, SIR. IT IS GOOD.

OKAY. MEANING DISCUSSION? YES, MA'AM.

SO FIRST I WANT TO THANK GRANT BECAUSE I HAVE I DID THE SAME THINGS YOU TALKED PARTICULARLY I HAVE A QUESTION ON PARAGRAPH 80 IT SAYS NO PERSON MAY PROVIDE PLASTIC BAGS BLAH BLAH BLAH AT A COUNTY FACILITY COUNTY SPONSORED THAT INCLUDE ORGANIZATIONS WE GIVE A TAX FUNDS TO THAT'S TECHNICALLY COUNTY SPONSORED YOU KNOW WHAT I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE TO LOOK AT THAT YEAH NO THAT'S GOOD A POINT OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER LETTER H AND THIS IS WHAT GRANT TALKED ABOUT ANY PRODUCTS PURCHASED, PREPARED OR PACKAGED OUTSIDE AN INCORPORATED BUT DELIVERED HERE I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT HE BROUGHT UP THAT LETTER H AND

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OH I'M SORRY. YEAH. THE END OF THIS ONE WHEN IT GOES IN EFFECT KEEPS PLEASE THIS BRAC EFFECTIVE DATE LETTER SAYS EIGHT MONTHS AFTER THE DATE COUNTY COUNCIL ENACTS THE ORDINANCE RIGHT AND THEN IT SAYS OR SIMILAR ORDINANCE HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY EVERY MUNICIPALITY IN COUNTY. SO TO ME THAT WAS KIND OF CONFLICTING WHAT IF THE MUNICIPALITIES AGREE TO IT I MEAN WE GOING TO DO IT JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION I THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT TOGETHER. YEAH OH I AGREE.

I MEAN I'M GOING EVERY MUNICIPALITY HERE WITH THIS SAY I'M GOING TO YOU KNOW AND I'LL GET BETTER AS I GO ALONG BUT I'M GOING TO EVERYBODY I THINK CHORE IS MY RESPONSIBILITY AS A SERIOUS AND A COUNTY I WOULD HOPE EVERY MUNICIPALITY WOULD AGREE.

I HOPE SO TOO. SHOULD BE GREAT. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WHICH I ASKED BRIAN WAS WHO DOES ENFORCEMENT ON THIS LIKE ARE WE CURRENTLY ENFORCING THE PLASTIC BAGS CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR I DO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ENFORCEMENT WOULD FALL UPON THE JURISDICTION IN WHICH THE ESTABLISHMENT IS LOCATED SO IN RURAL COUNTY OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WOULD HAVE TO ENFORCE IT BECAUSE WE'VE KIND OF SERVED AS IF THEY'RE ENFORCING ORDINANCES IN THE MUNICIPALITIES THEIR CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENTS OR THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENTS WOULD ENFORCE IT. AND WHAT YOU'RE REALLY GETTING AT IS ARE WE ACTIVELY ENFORCING THEM? THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

THERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE OF WHERE IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ACTIVELY ENFORCED AS CURRENT EXISTS THAT YOU GO TO SOME FAST FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS AND YOU MAY GET YOUR FOOD DELIVERED TO YOU IN A VERY THIN PLASTIC BAG WHICH WAS BANNED SIX YEARS AGO.

SO THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE PASSING THIS TO WHERE YOU GO TO THE EXTREME WHERE YOU PASS ALL BAGS PLASTIC BAGS THE STRAWS AND THEN THOSE FOOD CONTAINERS ARE WE SET UP TO ENFORCE THAT AND ARE THE MUNICIPALITY SET UP TO ENFORCE THAT AND THAT'S GOING TO BE UPON THE POWERS THAT BE TO REQUIRE THE ENFORCEMENT ARMS TO GO OUT AND ACTUALLY ENFORCE THEM IF THEY DON'T IF IT'S IN MUNICIPALITIES ,NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. THEY EITHER BUY INTO IT AND THEY ENFORCE IT OR THEY DON'T. MR. REES HAD HIS HAND UP. GO AHEAD.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, OF ALL THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. CAMPBELL.

THANK YOU FOR EFFORTS. I'VE SEEN YOU BEFORE. LISTENED TO YOU BEFORE.

I'VE BEEN IN CHAMBERS LISTENING TO YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO LET'S SAY A SEARCH GROUP, FOR EXAMPLE AND TALK TO REPRESENTED THE SEARCH AND HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT THEM AND GET SOME FROM THEM ON HOW THEY CAN MAYBE GO FORWARD HELPING YOU MAYBE BE AN A PARTNER IN YOUR ENDEAVOR. ABSOLUTELY.

I'M FULL INTENTION OF DOING THAT BUT I THOUGHT THE FIRST THING I DID WOULD DO WOULD BE TO COME TO YOU. LISTEN, I WOULD BE YEAH. AND THEN I MEAN I'M SURE THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS MY LIFE IS GOING TO BE DEDICATED GO AROUND AND SEE AND EVERYBODY NOW GOING TO. CAN WE DO THIS? YEAH, I THINK WE DO SOME VERY GOOD PEOPLE WITHIN THESE GROUPS THE SEARCH AND ALL OF THEM INCLUDED THAT I THINK.

I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA. I WOULD LIKE TO GET A JUMP START IT TO HELP THEM BUT I THINK THE PARTNER WITH YOU WITH THIS.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU REPRESENTING SIR GROUP NOW TOM KAY WHO IS NOTHING LIKE A STEAK DINNER YOU KNOW.

OH NO NO I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK WE ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.

WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE AT DOING WHAT MR. WOULD LIKE US TO DO THANKS TO YOUR MR..

MR.. TO YOUR QUESTION REGARDING THE PLASTIC BAGS OR THE STYROFOAM FOOD CONTAINERS FROM ANOTHER COUNTY BROUGHT INTO THE COUNTY, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE BECAUSE WE CAN'T ENFORCE OUR ORDINANCE IN THAT ADJOINING COUNTY.

THE QUESTION WOULD BE DO YOU WANT TO BAN THAT WHERE REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT COMES FROM OR DO YOU IT TO BECOME FROM A DIFFERENT PLACE LIKE IF PEOPLE BRING PLASTIC BAGS WHEN THEY COME YOU'RE ON VACATION WHICH MANY FAMILIES DO WHEN THEY COME TO THE BEACH OR THE VIEW FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT PUT DIRTY CLOTHES INTO PLASTIC BAGS WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE WHERE THEY'RE USING THE BAGS. DO YOU WANT TO BAN THAT? THEN THE QUESTION IS HOW ARE YOU GOING ENFORCE IT AGAINST INDIVIDUALS? IT'D BE VERY DIFFICULT IN A VERY TO TRY TO ENFORCE THAT. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU NOT BAN ATTEMPT TO BAN THE SOURCE FROM BEING OUTSIDE THE COUNTY AND WE JUST LIVE WITH IT. IF THEY BRING IT IN THERE AND ENFORCE THE LITTER LAWS TO KEEP THEM FROM LITTERING IF WE CATCH THAT BE MORE ACTIVE IN OUR LITTER ENFORCEMENT PERHAPS AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. BUT WE'RE LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT VENDORS, CORRECT? THAT'S WHO IS USING THESE BAGS .

I MEAN I DON'T GO OUT AND BUY A DOZEN PLASTIC BAGS TO USE FOR DIRTY LAUNDRY BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT RESTAURANTS, FOOD AND MOST PEOPLE WILL REUSE THOSE PLASTIC FOR DIFFERENT

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YES. AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A WHILE TO GET AND ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE SAID AND WHAT BRIAN SAID AND WOULD GRANT SAID AND WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID IS GOING TO TAKE US TO THE END OF THIS JOURNEY. BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE AND I THINK WE HAVE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GET BUSY ON IT AND MOVE ALONG AND I SUPPORT THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS ALONG. I HAVE TO CALL THE QUESTION SO WE CAN SO WE CAN MOVE IT ALONG.

OKAY. WE RECALL THE QUESTION WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL MOTION WHEN MOTION WAS TO THIS AND MOVE IT FORWARD. MOVE IT FORWARD.

THE COUNTY COUNCIL SO THE PROCESS WILL BEGIN FOR THE FIRST READING AND THEN WE'LL START HAVING OUR MEETINGS AND MEETING THE PUBLIC ETC. WELL I'LL DO WILL START OFF DUE DILIGENCE TOO OF GETTING IN ON THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH.

YES WE DID SIR. WE DID. WE DID.

ALL RIGHT. WITHOUT OBJECTION LET'S WE'RE DONE.

THANK YOU. I APPLAUD YOU. THANK YOU, ALL OF YOU.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S FOR YOUR RIGHT. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

GOOD STUFF LIKE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.