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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:04]

. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING FOR THE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SAFETY COMMITTEE APRIL 22ND, 2024 I LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE PUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. SARAH, COULD YOU ALSO CALL A ROLE FOR ME TODAY COUNCIL MEMBER STATES HERE COUNCIL MEMBER LAWSON ABSENT COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN HERE COUNCIL MEMBER PRESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER HOWARD HERE COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER COUNCIL MEMBER DAWSON IS ABSENT VICE CHAIR MCCLELLAN CHAIRMAN PARSONS PRESIDENT COMMITTEE VICE CHAIR BARTHOLOMEW PRESENT COMMITTEE CHAIR CUNNINGHAM PRESENT YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

THANK YOU. CAN I HAVE AN APPROVAL FOR THE AGENDA PLEASE? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. I SECOND THAT AND THE SECOND BY MR. BROWN. THANK YOU WILL BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION AND I SEE NO

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - March 25, 2024]

OBJECTION AND WE'LL GO ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF MARCH 25TH, 2024.

I HAVE THAT MOTION AS WELL. PLEASE I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. THANK YOU.

10/2 I AND COUNCILWOMAN HAPPY ALL RIGHT. I DO NOT HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS UP HERE BUT IS THERE ANYBODY THAT DIDN'T GET A SIGN UP THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY STATEMENTS TODAY? THAT'S AWESOME. WE'LL MOVE ON FROM THAT AS WELL

[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT- Jared Fralix]

JUMP RIGHT INTO YOU JARED THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR .

GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR. HOW ARE YOU? ALL RIGHT THIS AFTERNOON I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE YOU TO ROBERT CARTER. HE IS OUR DIRECTOR OF MOSQUITO CONTROL. HE'S GOT POWERPOINT PRESENTATION TO GO FOR YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT MOSQUITO CONTROL DOES AND WHAT'S THE UPCOMING SEASONS ALL ABOUT.

SO ROBERT, THANKS. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK COUNCIL I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A FEW SLIDES HERE AND TRY TO BE BRIEF IN CASE THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS AT THE END I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP A WHOLE LOT OF TIME A LOT OF WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY FOCUSES ON OUR ON OUR AERIAL OPERATIONS. I'M GOING TO ADD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE EDUCATIONAL I'VE BEEN DOING THIS WEEK AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DO IN OUR DEPARTMENT. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A FULL OF THE DEPARTMENT TODAY JUST NOT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME FOR IT BUT BUT WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN INCREASING OUR ACTIVITY RECENTLY IN BEAUFORT THE WARMER GETS YOU KNOW OVER THE YEARS THE THE LONGER OUR MOSQUITO SEASON IS PRETTY MUCH JANUARY TO DECEMBER YOU CAN GO OUT AND FIND MOSQUITOES WHICH WE DO JUST NOT IN GREAT NUMBERS IS YOU SIGN THEM IN IN SUMMER DIFFERENT SPECIES YOU'LL FIND SOME SPECIES IN THE WINTER YOU WON'T FIND THEM IN THE SUMMER BUT THIS IS ABOUT THE TIME THAT EVERYTHING STARTS RAMPING UP I'M SURE YOU MANY OF YOU HAVE NOTICED DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE THAT THE MOSQUITO NUMBERS MAY HAVE BEEN INCREASING. LAST WEEK WE HAD OUR FIRST AERIAL LARVA SIGHTING OPERATION AND I'LL GO INTO THAT A LITTLE IT WAS A IT WAS PRETTY WIDESPREAD BECAUSE WE HAD ABOUT FOUR INCHES OF RAIN ON AVERAGE OVER THE WHOLE COUNTY THANKFULLY THIS IS THE TIME WHEN ALL THE TREES ARE PUTTING ON NEW LEAVES SO IT'S SOAKED A LOT THAT WATER UP. SO ONE OF OUR TECHNICIANS WHAT OUR TECHNICIANS DO IS FOLLOWING RAINFALL. WE GO OUT IN THOSE AREAS WHERE IT RAIN CHECK FOR MOSQUITO CHECK FOR THE WATER, SEE HOW FLOODED IT IS THEN COME BACK A COUPLE OF DAYS THIS TIME OF YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT SOAKED BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GO PUTTING OUT LARVICIDE PRODUCTS AREAS IT'S ALREADY DRIED UP BECAUSE IT JUST WASTE IT.

WE'RE WASTING MONEY LARVICIDE PRODUCTS ARE EXPENSIVE BUT THEY ARE THE MOST EFFECTIVE METHOD FOR CONTROLLING MOSQUITOES. SO LITTLE OVERVIEW. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR AERIAL OPERATIONS SOME PRECAUTIONS THAT WE TAKE APPLICATIONS AND PRECAUTIONS THE PUBLIC CAN TAKE IF NECESSARY. SOME OF THE SURVEILLANCE WE DO ARE OTHER PARTS THAT WE HAVE HERE THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT CONTROL SOME OF THE TRAINING AND OUTREACH WE'VE DONE AND OUR ARGUS INTEGRATION THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SO AIR OPERATIONS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WE TWO AIRCRAFT WE HAVE AN MD 500 HELICOPTER WE CAN ADULT AND MOSQUITO LARVAE ADULTS AND MOSQUITO LARVA FROM THE HELICOPTER THE AIRPLANE CAN ONLY BE FOR ADULT MOSQUITO CONTROL SO LARVICIDE LARVICIDE MEANS IF YOU SEE THIS WORD AROUND ANYWHERE CONTROLLING THE AQUATIC STAGE OR LARVA OF MOSQUITOES.

SO WHY DO WE LARVICIDE TO CONTROL MOSQUITO LARVAE BEFORE THEY BECOME ADULTS?

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BECAUSE YOU GET THEM IN THAT ONE SPOT WHEN THEY'RE THERE, YOU KNOW A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND MOSQUITO LARVAE IN ONE SPOT COMPARED TO 100,000 MOSQUITO LARVA FLYING A FEW MILES WITH OUR AIRCRAFT OUR HELICOPTER LARVA SIGHTING WE CAN BE ABOUT HUNDRED TO 150 FEET EVEN LOWER OR HIGHER JUST DEPENDS ON THE OBSTACLES AND THE TERRAIN AND WHERE WE NEED TO BE 65 TO 95 MILES PER HOUR. AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS IS PREPLANNED WHERE WE'RE SPRAYING WHERE THE PILOT CAN JUST GO BACK AND FORTH. THAT AREA IS LARGE ENOUGH.

A LOT OF IT IS FLYING OVER LOOKING FOR AIR IS THE LARVICIDE THAT MIGHT BE SEPARATED FROM THOSE OTHER AREAS SO THEY MAY NEED TO SLOW DOWN.

THEY MAY NEED TO SPEED UP BUT DEPENDS AND DO BROADCAST SPREADER SO THAT THE SYSTEM ON OUR AIRCRAFT DEPENDING ON THE SPEED YOU'RE GOING IT'LL ADJUST THE RATE SO IT ALWAYS PUTS OUT THE SAME RATE THAT WE WANT TO DEPENDING ON REGARDLESS OF SPEED SO LARVICIDE WE DO IT DAYLIGHT THAT CAN BE DONE ANY TIME. THERE'S NO IMPACT ON NON-TARGET ORGANISMS FROM LARVICIDE AFTER RAINFALL OR AFTER SPRING TIME. THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN TIME WE NEED TO GO OUT AND CHECK FOR MOSQUITO LARVA AND THEN 1 TO 5 DAYS AFTER THOSE EGGS HATCH WE HAVE A REALLY NARROW THAT WE CAN CONTROL MOSQUITO LARVA BECAUSE SOME OF THIS THE MOSQUITO LARVA HAVE TO EAT FOR IT TO CONTROL THEM AND THEY HAVE TO ABSORB SOME OF IT.

SO ONCE THEY PAST A CERTAIN POINT BEFORE THEY'RE ADULTS, WE MAY HAVE MISSED THAT WINDOW.

WE HAVE TO HIT IT HARD RIGHT AFTER RAINFALL RIGHT AFTER KING TIME AND THEN WHERE DO WE LARVICIDE LARGE REMOTE AREAS WHERE DO WE LARVICIDE BY AIR SO OUR TECHNICIANS CAN DO LARVICIDE IN BY GROUND OR WE CAN USE BACKPACK LARVICIDE BUT SOME OF THOSE AREAS THAT ARE REALLY REMOTE LIKE I'M RIGHT BEHIND BUCKWALTER RIGHT THERE THAT'S PROBABLY 50 ACRES I THINK I MEASURED IT THIS MORNING 50 ACRES AND YOU LIVE OVER THERE IF YOU SEEN IT ON A MAP THAT'S PART OF A MUCH LARGER SWAMP AREA NOT ALL OF THAT IS IS BREEDING.

THAT'S ONE OF OUR DRONE DRONE MOSAIC PHOTOS YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE WATER IN THERE WHERE IT IS AND WHERE IT IS IT SO THE REASON WE HAVE TO AIR LARVICIDE THAT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE IT'S SO LARGE BUT BECAUSE YOU SEE THESE AREAS THESE ARE PICTURES FROM THAT AREA AND HOW FLOODED IT CAN AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT'S HUNTING ISLAND WHEN IT FLOATED IN 2020 THANKFULLY THAT DIDN'T PRODUCE A LOT OF MOSQUITO LARVA BECAUSE IT PRETTY MUCH WASHED ALL THE EGGS OUT AND THEN THERE ARE SOME OTHER AREAS ON THERE ON HUNTING ISLAND AND SOME OF THE OTHER IN THE COUNTY THAT FLOOD AND AND PRODUCE A LOT OF MOSQUITOES.

ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS IF YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT PHOTO THOSE SHADOWS THE BOTTOM OF THE IMAGE THAT'S OF MOSQUITO LLAMAS WHAT WE CALL THEM SO YOU KNOW WHO KNOWS HOW MANY MOSQUITOES LOVER IN THEIR HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND SO EVERY ADULT DECIDING SO ADULT DECIDING IS CONTROLLING THE ADULT STAGE OF MOSQUITOES DO THIS TO PREVENT OR REDUCE THE SPREAD OF DISEASE IN MOSQUITOES TO REDUCE MOSQUITO AND MOSQUITO PEST POPULATIONS BECAUSE SOME NOT ALL MOSQUITOES TRANSMIT DISEASES BUT IN HIGH NUMBERS THEY BECOME A REAL ISSUE FOR EVERYBODY FOR TOURISM, FOR FOR PEOPLE AT THE PARKS, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT ADULT DESIGNING WITH THEIR AIRPLANE. WE'RE FLYING AT 200 FEET SO THAT'S JUST ABOVE TREETOP 95 MILES PER HOUR IN THE HELICOPTER AND, 180 MILES PER HOUR IN THE AIRPLANE.

WE USE ULTRA LOW VOLUME NOZZLES THAT OUT A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF PRODUCT WE'RE SPRAYING AT DUSK BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN MOSQUITOES ARE AT THEIR PEAK ACTIVITY DUSK TO EVENING AND AT DUSK AND IN THE EVENING NON-TARGET ACTIVITY INCLUDING POLLINATORS IS REDUCED OR OR NIL PRETTY MUCH WE USE SYNTHETIC PYRETHROIDS OR AN ORGANIC THOSE ARE REALLY THE ONLY TWO MODES OF ACTION THAT PUBLIC HEALTH MOSQUITO CONTROL CAN USE.

WE ROTATE BETWEEN THOSE BECAUSE IF YOU KEEP USING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN YOUR POPULATION OF MOSQUITOES CAN GET RESISTANT AND THE AMOUNT THAT WE SPRAY 1.62.8 OUNCES WHAT WE TELL PEOPLE IF VISUALIZE A SHOT GLASS OR ABOUT A HALF A SHOT GLASS OVER AN ENTIRE FIELD, THAT'S HOW MUCH IS COMING OUT OF OUR AIRCRAFT. PRAGER SO IT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT AND WE'RE PUTTING OUT DROPLETS THAT ARE ABOUT 30 MICRONS AND THAT'S ABOUT THE THIRD THE SIZE OF A HUMAN HAIR. SO THEIR TO IMPACT MOSQUITO WHAT WE SAY ON THE WING ON FLIGHT. SO ONCE ONE DROPLET HITS A MOSQUITO IT'LL KILL THAT MOSQUITO. BUT LARGER BODIED INSECTS AREN'T IMPACTED BY IT BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT AND WHERE WE LAUGH WHERE WE ADULTS IS BASED ON ALL OUR ABOVE SURVEILLANCE AND I'LL GO THROUGH SOME SURVEILLANCE LATER .

WHY DO WE NEED TO EARLY ADULT SOME PLACES YOU CAN ADULT DECIDE BY TRUCK WE HAVE BOTH OPTIONS AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHY AERIAL AERIAL ADULT SETTING MIGHT BE A BETTER OPTION THAN TRUCK SO THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS DOWNTOWN ON OUR TRUCKS.

THE SWATH WIDTH THAT COMES OUT IS ABOUT 300 FEET AND ON THERE YOU CAN COVER BEAUFORT WITH A TRUCK AND NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH ANY MISSED AREAS. BUT FOR INSTANCE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO A BALLPARK ROAD THAT BLUE LINE IS 300 FOOT SWATH WIDTH ON A TRUCK.

YOU CAN'T COVER ANYTHING DOWN. YOU'RE NOT CONTROLLING MOSQUITOES WITH A TRUCK DOWN

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THERE SO THESE AREAS IN VIEW FOR COUNTY AREN'T TIGHT NEIGHBORHOODS.

SUBURBAN AND RURAL AREAS ARE BETTER EQUIPPED OR BETTER FOR AERIAL ADULT DECIDING WHICH IS WHY HAVE THAT OPTION IN OUR HELICOPTER IN OUR AIRPLANE SO HERE'S SOME PICTURES OF WHAT THE PILOT MIGHT SEE EXCLUDING THE ONE ON THE TOP RIGHT. THE THIS IS JUST DAY FLYING FOR SURVEILLANCE. WE'RE NOT DOING MOSQUITO CONTROL ADULT DECIDING DURING THE DAY BUT IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE PILOT MIGHT SEE WHEN HE'S FLYING THESE MISSIONS. SO THE DANGER INVOLVED IN SOME OF THIS AND THE SKILL TO BE A PILOT FOR MOSQUITO CONTROL IS IS VERY SO YOU NEED TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR BIRDS AND OBSTACLE RADIO TOWERS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THE TOP TWO PICTURES JUST THE AIR, THE AIRPLANE THE BOTTOM TWO PICTURES ARE FROM OUR LAVA SIGHTING MISSION LAST WEEK IN THE HELICOPTER. SO PRECAUTIONS EVERYBODY WONDERS ARE THE PRODUCTS THAT WE USE SAFE AND THE ANSWER IS YES LARVICIDE THERE ARE NO RISKS TO HUMANS, MAMMALS, OTHER OTHER ANIMALS LARVICIDE IS IS MEANT TO CONTROL MOSQUITO LARVA .

SO EVERY PRODUCT WE USE HAS A LABEL AND OUR MANTRA IS THE LABEL IS LAW ANY PEST CONTROL LABEL IS THE LOSS OF THE LABEL TELLS EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT PRODUCT WHERE YOU CAN USE IT WHERE YOU CAN'T USE IT WHEN YOU CAN USE IT. SO THIS FOR INSTANCE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ IT OR NOT THE ONLY HAZARD THAT THAT PARTICULAR LARVICIDE HAS IS YOU CAN'T USE IT IN WATER MEANT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION. SO WE'LL WE'LL PUT ANYWHERE YOU JUST CAN'T PUT IT IN IN AN AQUIFER OR A RESERVOIR SO IT'S SAFE FOR APPLICATION EVERYWHERE THAT GOES FOR PRETTY MUCH EVERY LARVICIDE EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN INDIVIDUAL PRECAUTIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO FOCUS ON SOME YOU CAN'T USE IN CERTAIN WATER THAT'S SOMETHING WE PAY ATTENTION TO.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE TYPES OF LARVICIDE THAT WE CAN USE SO THAT WE'RE NOT IMPACTING SOURCES THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE IMPACTING ADULT SOCIETY. WE'RE DOING MOSQUITO CONTROL OR DON'T MOSQUITO CONTROL DUSK TO EVENING SO THAT'S WHEN MOSQUITOES ARE MOST ACTIVE.

THAT'S WHEN POLLINATORS ARE EITHER NOT OR MUCH LESS ACTIVE. WE KEEP A TRACK, KEEP TRACK OF ALL BEEKEEPER LOCATIONS IF THEY ARE NOTIFYING US. SO THAT'S ONE IMPORTANT THING THAT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW IF THEY ARE A HOBBYIST OR A COMMERCIAL BEEKEEPER THEY NEED TO LET US KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEIR HIVES ARE. WE'LL EVEN TECHNICIAN COME OUT AND VERIFY WEATHER SO THAT WE CAN TAKE WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR APPLICATION.

SO SOME AREAS WE CAN MAKE APPLICATIONS NEAR THE HIVES WITHOUT ANY IMPACT IF THEY'RE FAR ENOUGH AWAY SOMETIMES IF THEY'RE TOO CLOSE TO THE ROAD IF WE CAN'T MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS THEN WE WILL EXCLUDE AREA BY TRUCK. SO WE DO ALL OF THESE THINGS TO MAKE SURE WE REDUCE OUR IMPACT ON NON-TARGET INSECTS. WE HAVE AN AUTOMATED NOTIFICATION LIST. SOME PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHEN WE'RE DOING MOSQUITO CONTROL AERIAL SPRAYING AND PEOPLE CAN SIGN UP FOR THAT LIST AND WHEN WE ARE PUTTING OUT NOTIFICATION ABOUT AERIAL SPRAYING IN THEIR AREA THEY'LL RECEIVE CALL OR AN EMAIL OR TEXT MESSAGE HOWEVER THEY WANT IT AND IF THEY'RE INSIDE THAT POLYGON WE CALL IT WHERE THEY'RE DOING AN APPLICATION THEN THEY'LL KNOW ABOUT BUT IF THEY'RE IN CALIFORNIA THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET A NOTIFICATION ABOUT IT IT'S JUST WHO WILL BE WHO IS IN THAT AD THE TARGET FOR THAT EVENING AND ALL OF OUR ADULT DECIDING PRODUCT HAVE NO RESIDUAL IMPACTS SO THEY ALL BREAK DOWN QUICKLY IN SUNLIGHT SO WE DO OUR APPLICATIONS ANY VEGETATION THAT WE SPRAYED IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT ON ON ANY INSECTS THE NEXT MORNING SO IT BREAKS DOWN QUICKLY.

SO THERE IS NO RESIDUAL LEFT LEFT LIKE YOU MIGHT FIND ON A BARRIER TREATMENT WHEN SOMEBODY'S SPRAYING WITH A BACKPACK BLOWER THERE IS NO LIQUID PRODUCT.

IT BREAKS DOWN VERY QUICKLY SO UNDER SURVEILLANCE SO WE DON'T JUST GO AND SPRAY ON A SCHEDULE THERE IS NO SCHEDULE. WE DO APPLICATIONS BASED OUR SURVEILLANCE THAT WE DO THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY SO THOSE ARE THE SOME OF THE LOCATIONS THAT WE DO MOSQUITO COLLECTIONS THAT'S ALL OF OUR HISTORICAL WE DON'T ALWAYS SET ALL OF THOSE TRIANGULAR TRAPS EVERY WE DO TRAP EVERY SINGLE WEEK OF THE YEAR SOME GET ROTATED SOME ARE PERMANENT SPOTS.

WE DO MOSQUITO IDENTIFICATIONS AND SEE WHAT SPECIES ARE AND THEN WE DO MOSQUITO BORNE DISEASE TESTING SO THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS ONE OF OUR OUR ENTOMOLOGY TECHNICIANS PUTTING THOSE MOSQUITOES IDENTIFIED INTO LITTLE CONTAINERS AND TEST THEM FOR WEST NILE VIRUS, SAINT LOUIS ENCEPHALITIS OR EASTERN EQUINE ENCEPHALITIS. SO PESTS WE DON'T CONTROL IF IT'S NOT A MOSQUITO WE DON'T CONTROL IT. IT WOULD BE A VERY LONG LIST IF I INCLUDED EVERYTHING ON THERE. BUT THIS IS THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT CALL US ABOUT OR PEOPLE MIGHT GET CONFUSED WITH MOSQUITO RIGHT NOW SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THE FIRST TUSSOCK MOTH CATERPILLAR THAT'S THE THE COCOON ON THE BOTTOM LEFT AND THEN THAT'S THE ADULT VERSION ON THE RIGHT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THESE.

THEY'RE REALLY ONLY A PEST THEY DON'T IMPACT HUMANS UNLESS YOU HAPPEN TO PICK ONE UP AND HAVE AND AND REACTION TO IT OTHER THAN THAT WE LEGALLY CAN'T CONTROLLING THESE THESE INSECTS EITHER SO WE'RE ONLY LICENSED TO CONTROL MOSQUITOES BITING MIDGES OR NO SCENES AS PEOPLE

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CALL THEM. WE CAN'T CONTROL THOSE UNFORTUNATELY IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE FOR ONE THING. THE OTHER IS THEY'RE WAY TOO SMALL.

SO YOU KNOW HOW SMALL THEY ARE. YOU FEEL THE BITE BUT YOU SEE THEM AND THEY'RE ACTIVE AT DIFFERENT TIMES FOR MOSQUITOES. SO IT WOULD NO MOSQUITO CONTROL PROGRAM I'VE EVER HEARD OF CONTROLS, MOTIONS. IT'S JUST NOT EFFECTIVE AND THEY'RE NOT THEY DON'T TRANSMIT DISEASES TO THEY ARE BLUE THEY TRANSMIT BLUE TONGUE AND SHEEP IN SOME AREAS BUT HERE THEY'RE JUST NOT NOT A RISK FOR DISEASE TRANSMISSION. NOW I'M BITING MIDGES AND CRANE FLIES PEOPLE THINK CRANE FLIES OR MOSQUITO HAWKS CRANE FLIES. ACTUALLY MOST SPECIES DON'T EVEN EAT AS ADULT. SOME MIGHT DRINK SUGAR WATER THEY EAT AS AS IMMATURE LARVA AND THEN AS ADULTS THEY REPRODUCE AND THEY DIE. SO NEITHER ONE OF THOSE BITE HUMANS ARE AN IMPACT ON ANYTHING YOU SEE THEM AROUND BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT MOSQUITOES TRAINING IN OUTREACH WE'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRAINING IN OUR AGE WE DO DO A GOOD BIT EVERY YEAR TRAINING WE TYPICALLY GO TO CONFERENCES EVERY YEAR DEPENDING ON ON ON WHAT TECHNICIANS HAVE THAT MIGHT NEED TO GO TO THAT ONE PICTURE ON THE TOP LEFT IS FROM AN A STAGE IN MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA THAT WAS AT THEIR EDUCATION CENTER THAT THEY OPENED. IT'S BASICALLY A MUSEUM FOR MOSQUITO CONTROL AND ENTOMOLOGY. IT'S REALLY FANTASTIC.

IF I COULD PUT ALL THE PICTURES ON THERE I WOULD HAVE IT. IT'S AN AMAZING FACILITY THEY HAVE WE WERE JUST DOWN CONFERENCE RECENTLY TECHNICIANS WITH OUR TECHNICIANS AND MOST OF OUR STAFF AT THE SOUTH CAROLINA MOSQUITO CONTROL ASSOCIATION MEETING SOME OF THE TECHNICIANS TO THE FLORIDA MOSQUITO CONTROL ASSOCIATION DODGE COURSES.

IT'S A LIST OF ABOUT 20 CLASSES YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR TO TAKE THE MOST ADVANCED MOSQUITO CONTROL CLASSES YOU COULD EVER THINK OF . THEY'VE GOT EVERYTHING ON THERE. IT'S A FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC COURSE GROUP OF COURSES THAT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD GO TO TAKE AND THEY HAVE IT IN GAINESVILLE WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF A GRANT PARTICIPATION WITH ANESTHESIA MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT IN SAINT AUGUSTINE WITH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY AND CITY HEALTH OFFICIALS.

AND WE GOT THOUSAND DOLLARS TO PARTNER WITH THEM TO DO SOME TRAINING.

SO ONE OF THOSE PICTURES IS OF US DOING SOME INSECTICIDE RESISTANCE TESTING FACILITY SO THAT WE CAN BRING THAT KNOWLEDGE BACK TO US AND DO IT BETTER.

WE ALSO DID SOME OUTREACH THE LITTLE KIDS IN THE YELLOW SHIRTS THEY HAVE A LITTLE IN THEIR EDUCATION CENTER AND THEY BRING SCHOOLS IN AND DO EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH AND THEM AROUND THE EDUCATION CENTER AND TALK ABOUT MOSQUITOES, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE ALSO HOSTED SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CDC LAST YEAR TO COME DOWN AND DO A STUDY IN OUR AREA AND SOME ALONG THE COAST FOR INSECTICIDE RESISTANCE FOLLOWING HURRICANES AND SOME OF THE MOSQUITO SPECIES THAT AREN'T THAT AREN'T REPRESENTED IN THE CURRENT DATABASE. SO CDC CAME DOWN WE SAID WE COLLECTED MOSQUITOES FORM THEY DID SOME TESTING THEM BACK TO FORT COLLINS AND WAITING ON THE RESULTS FOR THAT EVERY YEAR WE GO TO THE EVERY TWO YEARS WE GO TO THE THE AIR SHOW AT THE MARINE CORPS AIR BASE AND WE BRING BOTH OF OUR AIRCRAFT LAST YEAR WE BROKE BOTH WERE BROUGHT BOTH OF OUR AIRCRAFT AND PULLED OUT ALL THE STOPS. WE BROUGHT LIVE MOSQUITOES. WE BROUGHT MOSQUITO LARVA.

WE HAD SOME SWAG. WE HAD A TABLE WHERE EVERYTHING SET UP SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE COME THROUGH AND NOT JUST TALK ABOUT THE AIRCRAFT BUT TALK ABOUT WHAT ELSE WE DO IN THAT DEPARTMENT HOW ALL OF OUR AIRCRAFT HELP WITH THOSE THOSE ACTIVITIES AND WE PARTICIPATED IN THAT JUNIOR SERVICE TOUCH AND THAT WAS REALLY POSITIVE.

AND ALSO THERE'S TWO PICTURES A C-130 THERE THAT WAS AT ONE OF THE FLORIDA MOSQUITO CONTROL ASSOCIATION OF LIONS WHERE THEY HAD THERE THE AIR FORCE RESERVES HAD THEIR C-130 DISPLAY WITH AND THEY PUT ON A DEMONSTRATION IN THAT MIDDLE PICTURE AND THAT'S JUST WATER COMING OUT OF IT. BUT THAT'S ALWAYS FANTASTIC. ALL RIGHT.

IT'S THE LAST THING OUR GUYS THIS HAS BEEN A MAJOR UNDERTAKING FOR THE JAZZ DEPARTMENT AND HOPEFULLY THEY DON'T LOOK BACK AT IT AND THINK THAT THEY USE TOO MANY RESOURCES, A LITTLE MOSQUITO CONTROL. I'M NOT SURE HOW ELABORATE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE THIS DATABASES ARE BUT I KNOW THAT WE CONSTANTLY ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH GSA THEY'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB AT PUTTING TOGETHER A PROGRAM.

WE'RE STILL ON BUT IT'S MORE IMPRESSIVE THAN I EVER COULD HAVE IMAGINED ASIDE FROM THE NON-WORKING LINK THAT WE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT. BUT BUT THIS IS JUST THREE SNAPSHOTS OF THE MULTIPLE WE HAVE ON THERE. IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL.

I'M SO GLAD THAT THE COUNTY STILL PUTS SO MANY RESOURCES THE JAZZ DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT'S BENEFICIAL TO EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. ANY QUESTIONS? I I'LL COVER A LOT BUT I HAVE ONE QUESTION. SURE.

SO I KNOW I'VE BEEN RECEIVING THE EMAILS AND EVERYTHING ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPRAYING FOR MOSQUITOES AND ONE OF THEM I DIG SOME ABOUT THE CATERPILLARS SO I KNOW YOU SAID PEOPLE CAN SIGN UP TO GET NOTIFICATIONS. WHERE CAN THEY DO THAT RIGHT NOW THEY CAN'T UP THEMSELVES. THEY CAN SEND A MESSAGE OR CALL BUT ARE GOING TO WORK ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S SO IT'S A 911I ACTUALLY THINK THAT COUNCIL HAS THE SAME RATE MOBILE AS YOU MIGHT KNOW IF THEY A SIMILAR IT'S A IT'S A PER CALL COST SO WE JUST HAVE MAKE SURE THAT WE

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CAN AFFORD TO HAVE PEOPLE JUST SIGN UP THEMSELVES SO BUT CURRENTLY IF THEY WANT TO BE NOTIFIED CAN CALL US OR THEY CAN SEND IN US CITIZEN GRAHAM SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WE CAN GET THEIR INFORMATION THEM ON THE NOTIFICATION LIST. HOPEFULLY WE WILL PUT A LINK THERE IN THE FUTURE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST SIGN UP IF THEY LIKE TO.

I DO HAVE QUESTION I TRY TO LOOK AT THE THE PLANS FOR MISSIONS AND IT SAYS I NEED A LOG IN. YEAH, WE JUST WE JUST WE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT THIS AFTERNOON. IT'S ALWAYS WORK FOR ME BUT I NEVER CLEARED THE COOKIES ON MY BROWSER AND SO IT I, I DIDN'T KNOW WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS BROKEN SO THEY'RE GOING TO WORK ON THAT NOW MAKE SURE THAT IT STARTS WORKING AGAIN WHICH I'M GLAD I'M GLAD THAT THAT THAT PEOPLE OUTSIDE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IT TO FIGURE IT OUT THIS THE CMC APP CAN YOU GO OVER THAT I DON'T EVEN I GUESS WE STILL I'M NOT SURE IF WE EVEN STILL USE THAT HONESTLY THERE IS AN APP TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH I GUESS IT'S STILL I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S STILL CONNECTED TO BUT WE DO HAVE AN APP A B CMC BEFORE GOING TO MOSQUITO CONTROL APP WHERE CAN GO AND PUT INS SO THAT'S VERY GOOD POINT BECAUSE OUR CURRENT SERVICE REQUESTS SINCE WE SWITCHED ALL THE WAY TO OUR JOB YES THERE'S THAT SERVICE REQUEST THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THERE IS NOT CONNECTED THAT APP ANYMORE PROBABLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT LOOK INTO AND CHECK ON I'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE.

COULD BE A BUSY CONNECT RIGHT? YEAH WELL WE HAVE OUR OWN APP AT ONE POINT.

OKAY YEAH BUT BUT YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT IT'S STILL THERE BUT I DON'T THINK IF YOU GO ON IT IF YOU WANT TO SEND SEND SOMETHING IN YOU CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS BUT I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT WERE TRYING TO GET RID OF THE INDIVIDUAL ONES GET RID OF BEFORE CONNECT BUT WE ALSO HAVE NOT WE DO HAVE OUR OWN SERVICE REQUEST FORM ON OUR WEBSITE THAT THE PUBLIC CAN PUT IN SEARCH REQUEST FORM AND IT HAS A LOT MORE INFORMATION ON IT AND THAT'S I'M GOING TO WORK WITH BEFORE CONNECT AND SEE IF WE CAN INTEGRATE THE TWO TOGETHER SO THERE'S NOT MULTIPLE ONES BUT THERE'S OF INFORMATION WE LIKE TO COLLECT PRIOR TO GOING OUT AND DOING SERVICE REQUESTS SO WE MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THINGS WE CAN'T DO, WHAT WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT A SERVICE REQUEST, THAT KIND OF THING. SO WE LIKE TO COLLECT AS MUCH INFORMATION BUT ALSO GIVE THE PUBLIC AS MUCH INFORMATION SO THEY KNOW AHEAD OF TIME WHAT TO EXPECT. THEY SEE A TECHNICIAN OR SEE AIRCRAFT, SEE TRUCKS, THINGS LIKE THAT AND THANKS AWESOME AS WELL. YEAH SURE IN JASPER COUNTY DO YOU KNOW DO THEY SPRAY BY AIR AND BY TRUCK AS WELL THEY DON'T SPRAY BY AIR BY BY TRUCK.

THEY DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED MOSQUITO DEPARTMENT. THEY DO HAVE SOME SPRAY TRUCKS . YOU HAVE TRUCKS WITH YOU HAVING MACHINES ON IT.

I HAVEN'T SPOKEN I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT JASPER COUNTY A FEW YEARS BUT THAT WAS THE CASE PREVIOUSLY BUT THEY BUT THEY DON'T I KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE AERIAL IN YOUR AREA LET I ASK BECAUSE PART OF MY PARTIZAN CITY IS JASPER AND THEY'RE ALWAYS ASKING YEAH WHEN IS BEAUFORT GOING TO SPRAY? OKAY WE'RE NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE JASPER, RIGHT? I THEY HAD TRUCKS NOT AREA I DIDN'T KNOW MY AREA OKAY SOMETHING.

TELLS ME WITH ALL THE HOUSES THEY GOT THE REVENUE TO GET THAT PLANE JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE MAYBE YEAH MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT I CAN TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THAT LATER WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT.

[8. PRESENTATION ON THE UPDATED STATUS OF THE BROAD RIVER FISHING PIER]

WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR AGENDA ITEMS WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW SO WE WILL GET THROUGH THESE.

NUMBER EIGHT IS A PRESENTATION ON THE UPDATED STATUS OF BROAD RIVER PIER CHAIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE. SO I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE MR. BILL BARNUM. HE'S WITH ENGINEERS TO GIVE YOU THE DETAILS OF THIS BUT JUST TO ACCLIMATE EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE WE LAST SPOKE ABOUT THIS SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BROAD RIVER FISHING PIER QUITE A FEW TIMES. THE LAST TIME WAS MOST RECENTLY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN 2021 OR 2022 AND THE INTENT THERE WAS WE HAD DONE A SYNOPSIS AND THE STORYLINE WAS THAT THE BRIDGE FAILING AND EVENTUALLY NEEDS TO BE REMOVED OR, REPLACED, REMOVED AND REPLACED SO AT THE TIME WE HAD HIRED MCSWEENEY TO DO JUST SOME INITIAL CONCEPTUAL PLANNING AND THEY DID THAT PROCESS AND CAME UP WITH ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN DIFFERENT OPTIONS VARIOUS OPTIONS AS FAR AS REMOVING REPLACE AND REPAIRING REMOVING PART OF IT AND WHAT WAS DECIDED UPON AT TIME BY COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL WAS TO DO OPTION FORGET WHAT IT WAS CALLED IF I BELIEVE AT THE TIME BUT WAS BASICALLY TO REMOVE THE EXISTING PIER WHICH IS ABOUT 1800 FEET LONG AND REPLACE IT WITH A BRAND NEW PIER OF ABOUT 900 FEET LONG.

AT THAT TIME WE HAD SOME GENERAL ESTIMATES I BELIEVE IT WAS AROUND $8 MILLION.

THERE WAS NO FUNDING ATTACHED TO THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE BY COUNCIL THAT THAT'S WHAT

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WE'D LIKE TO EXPLORE AND MOVE DOWN SO IN FORGOT A MOSQUITO LINER AND FLY OKAY YEAH I SAW IT WAS NOTICEABLE YEAH SO ANYWAYS IT WAS ABOUT $8 MILLION AT THE TIME WAS THE GENERAL COST ESTIMATE WITH THE OPTION THAT WAS SELECTED NO FUNDING WAS ATTACHED WITH THAT DECISION JUST THAT WE'D LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT SO THERE WAS A IN A TAX AWARD TO PHASE TWO WHICH IS OUR PHASE ONE WHICH IS THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN FURTHER COST ESTIMATING ON THE OPTIONS.

SO THAT'S WHAT HE'S TO TALK ABOUT. BUT BEFORE I INVITE BILL UP TO TALK I WANT TO KIND OF SET THE SCENE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. I SAID TWO YEARS AGO WE CAME BACK AND SAID THE BRIDGE HAS CANCER AND IT IS LOOMING THERE IS AN DECISION THAT HAS TO BE MADE BY COUNCIL AT SOME POINT JUST TO REMOVE THE BRIDGE AND THIS WAS THE PREVIOUS NUMBER WAS MILLION DOLLARS. SO WE'RE WE HAVE TO DO THAT POINT THIS YEAR.

WE'RE COMING BACK WITH AN UPDATE THAT STORY TWO YEARS LATER AND THE WAY WE MEASURE AND BILL EXPLAIN MORE THE WAY WE MEASURE THE HEALTH OF THE BRIDGE OR THE LACK OF HEALTH OF THE BRIDGE IS HOW MUCH CONCRETE WE SCRAPE OFF PER OUR YEARLY SO IT CONTINUES TO DETERIORATE AND IS IN WORSE CONDITION SO NO LONGER DOES IT JUST HAVE CANCER BUT THE BRIDGE IS GOING HOME WITH HOSPICE SO WE ARE VERY IMMINENT WHERE A DECISION HAS TO BE MADE IN THE NEAR TERM FOR WHAT WE INTEND TO DO. AND AGAIN THERE IS UP TO THIS DATE THERE'S BEEN NO COST ASSOCIATED WITH ANY OF THE DECISIONS AND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DISCUSSED FURTHER AND IMPLEMENTED OUR CFP VERY SOON.

SO NOT TO BE THAT WAS MY MY WIFE'S OR MY FIFTH GRADE DAUGHTER'S VOCABULARY WORD LAST WEEK WAS MORBID NOT TO BE MORBID ABOUT THE SITUATION BUT IT IS A VERY PERTINENT SITUATION AND IT HAS A REAL SERIOUS CONSEQUENCE THAT WE ALL HAVE TO CONSIDER SO WITHOUT ANY FURTHER DELAY IF YOU CAN COME UP AND GIVE US A FURTHER DESCRIPTION AND AS BILLS UP THIS IS BEING WORKED THROUGH OUR ENGINEERING OFFICE THIS PASSED DOWN A COUPLE OF TIMES SO IN TANDEM WITH BILL AT THE END WILL BE BRIAN BOWER FROM OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

SO AN AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN HERE TO TALK ABOUT BROWN RIVER FISH AND PIER DOING WELL AND WELL SO I HAVE BEEN I GUESS YOU COULD SAY I'VE BEEN THE ENGINEER OF RECORD ON THE BROAD RIVER FISHING PIER FOR THE LAST THE LAST TEN YEARS OR SO.

OUR INVOLVEMENT ORIGINALLY IN 2014 OR 2015 WHEN COUNTY PUT OUT AN RFP FOR I'M SORRY OH SORRY OUR OUR INVOLVEMENT STARTED AROUND 2015 WHEN COUNTY RELEASED AN RFP FOR REHABBING STRUCTURE. SO I'LL GO INTO OUR HISTORY OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS AND TALK ABOUT THE WHAT WE'VE DONE TO IT AND SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND MOVING FORWARD. SO ORIGINALLY IT WAS OLD CDOT 70 BRIDGE IN THIS IN THE SAME LOCATION THAT THE CURRENT 170 BRIDGE IS OVER THERE ON SHELL POINT IT WAS BUILT IN 1957 AND THEN COUNTY TOOK OF IT IN THE EARLY 2000 AND 1820 FEET OF IT APPROXIMATELY HAS BEEN CONVERTED A FISHING PIER SO IN 2014 THERE WOULD BE FOR COUNTY ISSUED A DESIGN BUILD RFP AND AT THAT THE INTENT WAS WE WERE GOING TO REHAB THE LONGEST FISHING IN THE EAST COAST THAT WAS THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THAT PROJECT. WE STARTED LOOKING AT IT AND JUST SAID THAT IS AN UNDOABLE REQUEST THE DETERIORATION WAS JUST TOO FAR GONE AT THAT POINT AND SO WE DID AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF ANALYSIS ON ON THE STRUCTURE MULTIPLE INSPECTIONS ,CONCRETE TESTING, CORE SAMPLES, LOAD ANALYSIS AND AND THE LIKE AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WE DECIDED JOINTLY WITH WITH COUNTY ENGINEERING IS THAT WE WERE REALLY GOING TO LOOK AT A STRUCTURAL PRESERVATION PLAN. WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO AT THAT POINT WAS JUST TO TRY TO KIND OF STOP HEMORRHAGING AND PRESERVE AS MUCH OF THE STRUCTURAL CAPACITY THAT WE STILL HAD TO TRY TO EKE A LITTLE BIT MORE LIFE OUT OF IT.

SO THAT WENT ON FROM 2015 TO 2017 WHERE WE REALLY EVALUATED A LOT OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT REPAIR SCENARIOS. AND THEN IN IN 2018 WE STARTED IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THOSE REPAIRS AND THE THE PROBLEM THE MAIN UNDERLYING WITH THIS STRUCTURE IS IS NUMBER ONE THE

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BEAMS THAT SUPPORT THE SUPERSTRUCTURE AND SECONDARILY ARE THE PILING THE PILING ARE JUST NOT LONG ENOUGH TO TO GO INTO THE CHANNEL AND DECADES OF OF SCOUR HAS HAS EATEN AWAY THE CHANNEL BOTTOM AT THE BRIDGE SO IN 2018 WE IMPLEMENTED REPAIRS TO BOTH THE PILING UNDERWATER AND TO BEAMS ABOVE WATER AGAIN JUST TO TRY TO PRESERVE THE CAPACITY THAT HAD REMAINING IN THE STRUCTURE SINCE 2018 ROLLED AROUND WE HAVE BEEN DOING INTERIM INSPECTIONS EVERY YEAR. WE'VE BEEN DOING INTERIM SAFETY INSPECTIONS BOTH ABOVE WATER AND UNDERWATER YEAR SINCE 2015. IN 2021 IS WHEN THE COUNTY ISSUED THE DESIGN THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING OF A NEW BROAD FISHING PIER SOLICITATION OF WHICH MCSWEENEY ENGINEER'S TEAM WAS SUCCESSFUL. AND SO WE STARTED TO LOOK AT AT PHASE ONE OF THAT OF THAT PROJECT WAS OC WHAT IS FEASIBLE TO ACTUALLY BACK IN THIS PLACE. WELL AT THE SAME WE DID A COUPLE MORE YEARS OF OF ANNUAL INSPECTIONS REALLY AT THE 2023 INSPECTION AND THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I HAD REALLY SEEN THE 2018 REPAIR WORK THAT WE HAD DID I'VE REALLY STARTING TO SEE DETERIORATE FROM WITH SOME OF THOSE REPAIRS AND AT THAT POINT THAT'S WHEN I SAID OKAY I REALLY NEED TO TO GO BACK TO COUNTY AND AND IMPRESS UPON EVERYBODY IMPORTANCE OF WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THERE'S NO SENSE SPENDING ANY MORE MONEY ON AN ON A REPAIR AND IT'S DETERIORATING SO ONCE YOU SEE IN THE BACKGROUND OF THAT PICTURE THAT IS ACTUALLY AN IBM THAT IS THERE IS NO I HORIZONTAL EYEPIECE ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT BEAM ANYMORE SO ALL OF THE REINFORCED STEEL IS IS COMPLETELY GONE AND THEN BIG PILE OF CONCRETE JARED IS EXACTLY RIGHT. THIS IS THIS IS THE ONLY THE ONLY STRUCTURE I'VE INSPECTED IN 24 YEAR CAREER WHERE I ACTUALLY KIND OF GAUGE THE RATE DETERIORATION BY HOW MUCH CONCRETE IS ON THE BARGE AT THE END OF THE DAY AFTER MY MY INSPECTION NOT EXACTLY A STANDARD METHOD OF OF STRUCTURAL INSPECTION ANALYSIS BUT IT'S IT'S A PRETTY GOOD PRETTY GOOD GAUGE YEAR AFTER YEAR WHAT I'M SEEING GOING ON WITH THIS THING. SO AT THE END OF 2023 THAT'S WHEN I REACHED BACK OUT TO AND I SAID LOOK LET'S WE NEED TO EITHER YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO EITHER MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE TWO OR FIGURE OUT WHAT WHAT ELSE WE'RE GOING TO DO. SO TALK ABOUT THE THE SOLICITATION IN IN 2021 THE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IN THE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO REPAIR PLAN.

SO THAT WAS THE RFP OH EIGHT 1321 E IS MULTI-DISCIPLINED THAT WE PUT TOGETHER TO EVALUATE WHAT WHAT BE DONE AT THE SITE WHAT FEASIBLY COULD COULD BE PUT BACK IN THERE WHAT WE FOUND AND WELL GET TO WHAT WE FOUND AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT OUR OUR GOALS WERE IN THE END THE WHOLE THING WAS FIRST CAN WE KEEP THE PIER OPEN THAT WAS THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE LOOKING AT CAN WE CONTINUE TO KEEP THE PIER OPEN WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS REPAIR AND PERMITTING SCHEME FOR IT FOR A NEW STRUCTURE? THE ANSWER WAS YES AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE STRUCTURE AND CLOSE IT DOWN IF WE NEED TO SECOND GOALS DESIGN AND PERMIT A NEW FEE PIER AND VALUE TO COUNTY AND THEN STEWARDSHIP SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THAT WE WENT INTO THE THE FEASIBILITY WITH AND THE PHASE ONE WAS THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE THAT WAS COMPLETED IN 2022 AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE FOUND IN PHASE ONE AND WHAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED AS AS TO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IN PHASE TWO.

SO IN IN PHASE ONE WE GOT ALL OF THE PRELIMINARY DATA THAT WE WOULD NEED TO BUILD A NEW FISHING PIER THE GEOTECHNICAL INFORMATION, THE BATHROOM METRIC DATA, THE HYDROGRAPHIC SURVEY ALL THE RIGHT AWAY INFORMATION COLLECTED ALL THAT. AND THEN WE CAME UP WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT POTENTIAL ALIGNMENTS OF OF A NEW PIER AND EVALUATED SEVERAL DIFFERENT MATERIALS AND, LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT COST RAMIFICATIONS AND LOOKED THE DIFFERENT PERMITTING RAMIFICATIONS OF EACH ONE. WHAT YOU SEE IN THE BACKGROUND ARE JUST ARE FOUR OF THE POTENTIAL ALIGNMENTS THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR A NEW FISHING

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PIER AT THE SITE. A COUPLE OF THINGS IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ABOUT THE BROAD RIVER AND THIS LOCATION SPECIFICALLY MAKE THIS MAKE THIS SITE QUITE A CHALLENGE ANY ANY FISHING PIER, ANY STRUCTURE THAT IS GOING TO BE PUT IN THE BROAD RIVER AND THIS ENVIRONMENT BE ABLE TO STAND UP TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS OUT THERE HAS TO BE CONSTRUCTED VERY SIMILAR TO A DOT BRIDGE. IT HAS TO BE ON THAT SAME KIND OF ORDER OF MAGNITUDE OF SCALE TO BE ABLE RESIST THE EARTHQUAKE FORCES THE DEPTH OF WATER THE WIND, THE WAVES AND THE EARTHQUAKE AND ALL THE CODE COMPLIANCE STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TO DO SO THAT ANY THAT IS IS GOING TO GO BACK OUT THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE NECESSARILY MASSIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT MOST WOULD CONSIDER A RECREATIONAL FISHING PIER. IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT AKIN TO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE COAST WOULD WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE PUT THERE. THE OTHER THING THAT WE FOUND IS THE NEWS IS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 900 FEET LONG AND IT TO BE AT LEAST 600 FEET LONG. THAT'S ANOTHER ANOTHER CHALLENGE AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS THERE IS A 600 FOOT LONG MUDFLAT BETWEEN LAND AND WHERE YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO ANY REAL TYPE OF FISHING FROM A FISHING PIER AT ANY TIDE.

AND SO WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE DESIGN THAT WE RECOMMENDED TO THE TO THE COUNTY AT THE END OF THE DAY. AND SO WHAT THAT IS IS A 600 FOOT LONG PIER THAT IS ACCESSED BY 100 FOOT LONG ADA COMPLIANT RAMP AND THEN A 80 HEAD THAT WOULD BE THAT COULD BE FISHED OFF OF IN ADDITION TO THAT OUR THOUGHT WAS ON DEALING WITH EXISTING FISHING PIER WAS TWOFOLD ONE WAS TO TAKE ALL THE PILING AND THAT INTO A FISHING REEF AT THE SITE TO TRY TO SAVE ON AS MUCH OF THE DEMOLITION AS WE COULD SO ALL THE PILING EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE WATER WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO LEAVE IT IN THE WATER ALL OF THE BEAMS, ALL OF THE CONCRETE IS ABOVE WATER. OUR CONCEPT IS BRING A CONCRETE CRUSHER, A MACHINE ON SITE AND LITERALLY RECYCLE ALL THAT CONCRETE TO BE USED ON SITE TO IMPROVE THAT THAT PARKING LOT THAT PARKING AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE IN A WHILE BUT IT IS IS PRETTY RUTTED OUT AND IT GETS PRETTY FLOODED AND SO WHAT WE HAD THOUGHT IS LET'S TRY TO REPURPOSE TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE THE MATERIALS THAT THAT WE HAVE ON SITE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT DOING SOME SOME OTHER ON SITE AMENITIES A SMALL PICNIC SHELTER, IMPROVED PARKING AND IMPROVED DRAINAGE. SO THIS WAS THE OPTION THAT WE HAD PRESENTED TO TO BE A FOUR COUNTY. IT COMES WITH A A PRETTY PRETTY STEEP PRICE TAG. IT'S IT'S HARD TO SEE THE INFORMATION THAT'S THAT'S UP THERE ON THE SCREEN WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF THE SCENARIOS THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR THE NEW WE'RE DESIGNING ONE WITH A VEHICULAR LOAD AND DESIGNING ONE WITH A PEDESTRIAN LOAD.

IT TURNS OUT THAT THE COST IS VERY SIMILAR BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT THE VEHICULAR LOAD REALLY DOESN'T THE DESIGN OF THE FISHING PIER IT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS THAT I JUST JUST SPOKE ABOUT. SO BOTH OF THOSE CARRY PRICE TAG OF AROUND $12 MILLION TO REBUILD THE SAME SIZE AND SCOPE OF WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE NOW IS IS ABOUT $35 MILLION PROJECTED AND THE DEMOLITION WORK PROJECTING AROUND $3 MILLION FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE OF THE STRUCTURE. WOW. SO ALL VERY, VERY HIGH NUMBERS FOR CONSIDERATION I THINK OTHER THAN SO THE REMAINING ITEMS IN TWO ESSENTIALLY PHASE ONE WAS JUST A FEASIBILITY. IS IT FEASIBLE? YES, IT'S THE ANSWER.

IT'S TOTALLY FEASIBLE. IT'S GOT TO BE A LARGE STRUCTURE A TWO TO LAST FOUR FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME. AND IF IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD THEN THE NEXT PHASE IS TO GO AHEAD AND START PERMITTING THE THE THE NEW PIER AND THE DEMOLITION OF THE OF THE OLD PIER TO FINALIZE THE THE DESIGN IS THERE QUESTION AND TELL ME IF I'M FLAT OUT WRONG BUT IS THERE ANY WAY TO TIE IN TO EXISTING ACTIVE BRIDGE FOR THE REPLACEMENT BASICALLY USING PART OF THAT SUPERSTRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE OR IS THAT WAY OFF

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BASE OR NOT FEASIBLE TO TO THE EXISTING D.O.T. BRIDGE THE ACTIVE BRIDGE OUT THERE NOW? WELL, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TIE INTO THAT FOR ANY RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.

NO AND JUST BASED ON ON THE DIFFERENT HEIGHT I DON'T SEE WHERE WE WOULD WHERE WE WOULD GAIN ANYTHING. ONE OF THE OTHER OBJECTIVES THAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO AS WELL WITH THE SOME OF THE ALIGNMENTS THAT I SHOWED YOU WAS ACTUALLY MOVING OUR STRUCTURE OUTSIDE OF THE DOCK RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE'RE WE'RE STILL IN THE YOUR WHICH IS THEIR OLD STRUCTURE IS STILL IN THERE RIGHT AWAY SO IT'S NOT LIKE FISHERMAN'S PILINGS. SURE. WELL AND IT'S GREAT.

I'VE SPENT I'VE SPENT HOURS AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS UNDERWATER THERE THERE'S A TON OF FISH THERE, WHICH WAS ONE OF MY REASONS FOR WANTING TO TO TO DO THE ARTIFICIAL REEF BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A GREAT RESOURCE. IT REALLY IS. YES.

MEAN I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST CAME ON COUNCIL THE ENGINEER SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE PAY ME NOW OR PAY ME LATER ON THIS AND. WE'VE DONE THE BAND AID NOW FOR ALL THESE YEARS. I DON'T MEAN BAND AID BUT WE'VE TRIED TO DO THE BEST WE COULD AND NOW IT'S TIME IF WE WANT TO BE. YOUR EXPLANATION WAS EXCELLENT AND IT SHOWS US THAT IF WE WANT TO HAVE A PIER THERE WE'VE GOT TO GET ON.

AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF OF COURSE REUSING THE MATERIALS FOR THE REEF AND FOR THE PARKING LOT AND WHATEVER ELSE WE CAN DO. IT IS HEAVILY USED THINK IN A LOT OF PEOPLE IT'S VERY PUBLIC ACCESS IF YOU CAN'T FIND SOME OF THE OTHER PIERS IN COUNTY YOU CAN FIND THIS ONE PRETTY EASILY I THINK. YEAH, BUT IT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND YOU KNOW OF COURSE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PART OF THE CONSIDERATION BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO TO THE NEXT STAGE BECAUSE. GETTING PERMITS WILL TAKE TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK. SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. SO IF WE DON'T COME UP WITH $30 MILLION ROUGHLY WHAT HAPPENS JUST CLOSED THIS PIER PERIOD OR YOU DEMOLISH IT ANY WAY SO THAT IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE. WHAT DO YOU DO WITH IT WELL, I THINK IT WOULD BE A MASSIVE LIABILITY TO LEAVE IF IT WAS TO BE CLOSED BECAUSE AS SOME OF THIS IS ANECDOTAL BUT IT'S IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO DID WERE DOING THE DEMOLITION ON THE OLD DOTTY BRIDGE AND SO WHEN THEY STARTED TO PULL THE SUPERSTRUCTURE OFF OF THIS THING.

IT ACTUALLY SOME OF THE PILES STARTED TO FALL OVER BECAUSE THERE'S SO SUCH INVESTMENT OUT THERE AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE THEN IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY REMOVED BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A MASSIVE LIABILITY UNFORTUNATELY AND I'LL ADD WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT YET BUT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP DOING THE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS MCSWEENEY HAD A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT FOR INSPECTIONS THAT ENDED LAST YEAR SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THE BEST PATH FORWARD OF RIGHT CONTINUE THOSE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS JUST MONITOR THE DETERIORATION HOWEVER THINGS WORK IF IT GETS TO THE POINT AND THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION WE WOULD LIKE JUST KIND OF KEEP DOING THE INSPECTIONS IN THANK YOU.

YES. MR. GLOVER, QUICKLY WHAT WHAT DO YOU WHAT DOES YOUR ESTIMATION ON THE LIFE EXPECTANCY KNOW OF THAT OLD PIER? YES, SIR. THAT'S A $13 MILLION QUESTION. YEAH.

I WILL TELL YOU WE WOULD I GET ASKED THAT A LOT WITH CONCRETE'S CONCRETE AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD TO PINPOINT THAT. I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOT FIVE YEARS BEFORE I'D I I I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF BURDEN ON MY SHOULDERS KEEPING THIS THING I MEAN IN A VERY PROFESSIONAL BUT VERY REALISTIC WAY AND AT SOME POINT WE'RE JUST GOING TO TO MAKE THE CALL AND WHEN THAT IS IT'S I WISH I KNEW BUT I THINK WE'RE WE'RE CERTAINLY IN THE SINGLE DIGITS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS BEFORE BEFORE LAST WEEK WE WERE IN OFFICE WE WERE TALKING A YEAR OR TWO. OKAY.

SO HE'S NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND STAMP THAT BUT IT IS TOPPING AROUND THE TABLE.

THAT'S THE DISCUSSION. AND SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR..

IT IS AT SOME POINT WE WILL HAVE TO PUT A CAN'T ACCESS THIS AND THE QUESTION IS ARE WE GOING TO BE PREPARED AND READY TO MOVE INTO THE NEXT STAGE OR WE HAVE ANOTHER PLAN OR WHAT THE NEXT STAGE DO WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT? ARE WE GOING TO INVEST MILLION DOLLARS HERE SOMEWHERE ELSE? ALL THE ABOVE. THE NEXT THING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANSWERED YET AND THIS ISN'T A REQUEST FOR TODAY BUT SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY TAKE OPINIONS FROM TODAY IS FOR THE CONTINUED THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING OF THE NEXT PHASE IF

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WE WERE TO REPLACE THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT. SO YEAH WE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THAT AND THERE WILL BE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR DESIGN FEE FOR THAT SO THAT WILL BE THE FIRST QUESTION. DO YOU STILL HAVE OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN AND WHEN IT'S PERMITTED TO WHETHER YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT BUT THAT'S THE NEXT GERARD IF I MAY GO AHEAD. I WANT TO FOLLOW UP GO AHEAD. THE DESIGN FOR THE NEW PIER IS GOING TO BE SIDE BY SIDE. IS THAT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT? IT WOULD BE OFF TO THE SIDE YES. SO CONTINUED TOWARDS THE THE RAMP IN THAT DIRECTION AND YOU TALKING ABOUT 6600 FEET VERSUS 900 AND YEAH THE ASSISTANCE 1800 AND THE ONE THAT'S PROPOSED IS 600 AND CHANGE IN THE OTHER ANGLE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO STILL CATCH FISH FROM THE 600. YEAH YOU SAID WHAT'S THE DEPTH SO SO OUR OUR GOD WE'RE ALL FISHERMEN WE DESIGNED IT AND WE'VE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND I'VE SPOKEN TO A LOT OF FISHERMEN OUT THERE ONCE YOU GET TO 600 FEET THERE'S A NICE LITTLE DROP OFF AND IT GETS YOU OUT. THE 35 FEET MEAN LOW WATER SO AT THAT PERIOD YOU GOT 35 FEET OF WATER AT LOW TIDE THAT THAT YOU CAN NOW YOU CAN FISH IN FOR THAT 200 FOOT BOTH SIDES OF THE PIER 200 FEET. SO THE 400 LINEAR FEET OF FISHING PIER AT THE AT THE END OF PIER IT AND IT IS A VERY POPULAR PIER FOR FOR A LOT OF OUTSIDERS COMING TO BEAUFORT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT BUT A LOT OF TOURISTS FISH THERE AND STUFF SO I'M LIKE OKAY I WANT TO SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN I THINK I CAN IT A LITTLE SIMPLER FOR YOU WITH SOUND BUT EVERYONE'S KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO GET IT DONE. SO I A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE IS ONE HOW LONG ARE WE LOOKING AT TO BUILD ONCE WE START LET'S SAY WE GOT APPROVALS, WE GOT DESIGNS DONE WHAT IS OUR TIME FRAME FOR START TO FINISH ON COMPLETION AND THEN FOR I GUESS THE BACK OF OUR HOUSE WHERE CAN WE START FINDING WAYS FOR LOCATIONS FOR THE FUNDS FOR THIS I MEAN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMEWHERE MY GUESS IS CLOSE TO 14 OR 15 MILLION WELL I'LL ANSWER THE FIRST THE FUNDING SECTION SO THE THE INITIAL THAT WE'VE EXPENDED SO FAR ON THE YEARLY INSPECTIONS AND THE PHASE ONE THOSE WERE BOTH OUT OF AN AGE TAX.

SO FOR THE PHASE TWO, IF THERE'S FOR THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING THAT WOULD BE A GOOD SOURCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK THROUGH. I KNOW THAT'S GETTING REBRANDED RIGHT NOW BUT WE'D HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT AS A SOURCE BUT THE ACTUAL TEN OR $12 MILLION OR $15 MILLION I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER BUT WE CAN GET BACK IT AND THEN THE TIMING ON THE PROJECT AND HOW LONG I THINK YOU KNOW A LOT OF THAT'S GOING TO BE DICTATED BY PERMITTING WHICH WILL HAVE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL THE PERMITTING AGENCIES AND THE CONCEPTUAL AND PRELIMINARY. NO ONE HAD ISSUES WITH IT SO THERE WAS NO MAJOR OBSTACLES THAT POPPED UP. BUT HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS PERMITTING DOESN'T DRAG OUT I WOULD 2 TO 3 YEARS FOR DESIGN PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION AND THEN CAN THIS NEW PIER BUILT BY THE EXISTING ONE IS THERE ENOUGH TO DEMOLISH IT AFTERWARDS OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE VISITED UPON THE HILL SO WE WOULD RIGHT LET'S SAY I'M SAYING IF IT LASTED OR WHATEVER BUT BUT I'M SAYING CAN START BUILDING THE NEW ONE WHILE THE EXISTING ONE IS STILL THERE IF IT IS FUNCTIONAL SITE I THINK AS LONG AS WE DID MONITORING OF THE EXISTING ONE WHILE THEY WERE DOING ESPECIALLY THE CONSTRUCTION I THINK PILES OR DRILLSHIP WHATEVER THE DESIGN WAS AS LONG AS WE'RE DOING THE PROPER MONITORING, VIBRATION MONITORING AND THINGS THE EXISTING PIER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WASN'T HAVING A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT AND CAUSING THINGS TO SPEED UP I THINK YEAH YOU COULD PROBABLY BUILD THEM AT THE SAME TIME THEY'RE OFF THE ALIGNMENT SO THEY'RE NOT YEAH SO I WOULD SAY THE NEXT STEP IS THEN LET'S START PULLING TOGETHER SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN ACTION ITEM TO TAKE WHETHER THAT IS STARTING TO GET UNDER CONTRACT FOR DESIGN AND I GUESS THE REST OF US UP HERE WE NEED TO START FIGURING OUT AS EIGHT TAX MONEY CAN BE USED FOR IT OR THAT'S TAB SPECIALTY BUT IF THERE'S OR GRANTS THAT WE CAN PUT OUT FOR IT AND LET'S SEE IF THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN GET THIS BALL ROLLING BECAUSE I'D TO SEE IT DOWN BEFORE THE NEW ONE'S EVEN DONE SO YES MA'AM.

SO OUR WAY TO DOCUMENT USAGE I KNOW YOU'VE DONE IT ON THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL WHERE WE HAVE THE COUNTERS BECAUSE ESPECIALLY IF WE USE TAX MONEY OR OTHER MONEYS LIKE THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD. WE ALL PERCEIVE THAT IT'S USED A LOT AND BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO DOCUMENT IT. YEAH I DO CHECK I THINK THERE MAY BE A CAMERA OUT THERE POSSIBLY THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY LOOK AT USAGE OR LIKE WE DO FOR STATE AND I THINK THERE MAY BE

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I HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK THE BOLLING AND MASTER PLAN THERE MAY BE A SNIPPET IN THERE ABOUT SOME OF THAT USED SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK BUT YEAH I MEAN WE CAN THE DEVELOP THE STORY OF HOW MUCH IS USED OR NOT USED OKAY RIGHT DO YOU THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GET TO US BY THE NEXT MEETING RELEASE FOR THE CONTRACT? IT DEPENDS.

WE'VE GOT TO WORK WITH PROCUREMENT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE EXISTING CONTRACT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD PROCUREMENTS BLESSING WITH THE EXISTING EXISTING TEAM GREAT. IF NOT AND WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK OUT AND PUT OUT AS AN ADVERTISEMENT SO WE CAN GET YOU THAT ANSWER AND AND THEN IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN EXTEND THE CONTRACT THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THAT FASTER. OKAY.

I'M SORRY, DID YOU TELL HOW MUCH THE CURRENT CONTRACT IS AND I MISSED IT.

I DON'T THINK WE MENTIONED IT BUT I BELIEVE IT'S 247,000 A YEAR.

IT'S NO, NO, NO MA'AM. THE PENDING INSPECTIONS, A FINAL DESIGN AND PERMITTING FEE WAS I BELIEVE 247. YEAH. SO WE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CONTRACTS SO THE EXISTING FOR THE FIVE YEAR CONTRACT FOR ANNUAL ONCE INSPECTION PER YEAR WAS ABOUT I THINK ABOUT 30,000 30,000 PER YEAR AND THEN EXISTING PHASE ONE CONTRACT WE JUST SAW IN THE COMPLETION THIS IS COMPLETING THAT WAS WHAT WAS THIS THING IT WAS ABOUT 115 SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE I THINK. YES. AND THEN THE ESTIMATED COST IS ABOUT 250 FOR THE PHASE TWO DESIGN. SO WE'RE LOOKING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN WELL AS 12 THAN THREE. SO IT'S 15 SO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1718 MILLION WITH THE CONTINGENCY IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED. THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD PLACEHOLDER. OKAY. BUT SO FOR NEXT YEAR WE NEED THE MONEY FOR PHASE TWO. THAT'S CORRECT AND INSPECTION TEAMS AND WE'LL TO UPDATE OUR INSPECTION SO OUR INSPECTIONS HAVE JUST LAPSED BETWEEN OUR LAST YEAR LAST YEAR SO WE WOULD NEED TO CONTINUE ANOTHER CONTRIVED YEAR CONTRACT FOR YEARLY INSPECTION AND SOUNDS LIKE WE WOULD A FIVE YEAR IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT MANY YEARS FOR PERMITS AND THEN BUILDING WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 4 TO 5 YEARS BEFORE THIS THING WAS OPEN IF WE STARTED NOW YEAH OKAY. OKAY THAT GIVES US DIRECTION. GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION. WE KNOW NO ACTION TAKEN TODAY BUT AT LEAST IT GIVES US SOME DIRECTION OF THE WAY WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. WHAT WE'RE DOING ALL THIS.

CAN YOU ALSO LOOK AT THE FEDERAL GRANTS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING OUT THERE? YEAH, BEEN LOOKING AT FEDERAL GRANTS FOR THIS AND OTHERS AND WITH YOU THE RECENT INFRASTRUCTURE LAW THAT CAME OUT THIS OPENED A LOT MORE GRANT MONEY SO I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME POSSIBILITIES. LOOK AT IT ONCE WE GET A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ALONG IN THE PROCESS THERE MAY DEFINITELY SOME POSSIBILITIES IN MAYBE EVEN POSSIBLY WORKING WITH THE BASES TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME OF PARTNERSHIP SINCE YOU KNOW THERE'S MILITARY MEMBERS THAT USE IT AS WELL. THAT'LL BE GREAT. THANK YOU.

[9. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CONVEYANCE OF MULTIPLE PARCELS OF REAL PROPERTY FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY TO SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN CONNECTION WITH SC 802 SAMS POINT ROAD RIGHT TURN LANE]

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT.

LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO ACTION ON THAT SO WE WILL MOVE TO NUMBER FIVE THOUGH RECOMMENDING APPROVAL A COUNCIL OF AN ORDNANCE AUTHORIZING THE CONVEYANCE OF MULTIPLE PARCELS OF REAL PROPERTY FROM COUNTY, THE, THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IN CONNECTION WITH SCA TO SAMS POINT ROAD RIGHT TURN LANE JR THAT IS YOU AS WELL FOR A COUPLE OF THESE THIS ONE RIGHT HERE THIS ONE AND A FEW OTHERS I THINK THEY WERE SKIPPED TO JOHN IN THE AIRPORT IN THE SECOND SO THIS IS ASSOCIATED SO THIS IS PART OF OUR 2018 SALES TAX AND THIS IS THE RIGHT TURN LANE THERE AT WALGREENS AND SPUR RGA WITH NCDOT WHENEVER WE WORK ON A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT WITHIN PROGRAM WE ACQUIRE THE PROPERTIES THE RIGHT AWAY THAT'S IN DIFFERENT COUNTIES NAME AT THE END OF THE PROJECT WE TAKE A11 TRANSFER ONE PLAT AND ONE D AND TRANSFER ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT WE COLLECTED AT ONE TIME TO DOTTIE OR THEIR EVENTUAL LONG TERM OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS THIS IS THE THREE PROPERTIES YOU CAN SEE LABELED UP THERE AND APPROPRIATE ACREAGES AND SO THOSE HAVE BEEN FINALIZED FROM THE FROM THE COUNTIES PERSPECTIVE THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT THAT WE WILL BE WITH THE DEED INCLUDED THAT WE WOULD BE TRANSFERRING THEIR $0 TRANSFER BETWEEN COUNTY AND THE OT BUT IT PROVIDES THEM TERM MAINTENANCE OF THIS PROJECT SO IT IS JUST THE RIGHT AWAY AND IT IS NO FISCAL IMPACT US TO THE COUNTY WAS ALREADY PURCHASED IN 2018 THAT'S CORRECT BUT IT DOES REQUIRE ORDNANCE. IT'S A TRANSFER PROPERTY. DO I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE SEND THE SECOND FIRST BY MR. BARTHOLOMEW AND SECOND BY MR. GLOVER.

ANY OBJECTION? I HAVE NO OBJECTION. THIS ONE COULD QUESTION YES, SIR. YOU DOING IT AS AS THEY COME IN BECAUSE I KNOW FROM THE EAST SIDE BY THE HARRIS TEETER I GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO BE DEALING AT ALL TO THE STATE.

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WELL YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT AT THE END OF THAT PROJECT. SO WE CALL THIS A PROJECT BY ITSELF A STANDALONE PROJECT AND SINCE IT'S CONCLUDED IN ALL COMPLETED THAT'S THE REASON FOR US TRANSFERRING NO PROBLEMS. OKAY. THANK YOU.

IT'S A MOVE FORWARD. NO OBJECTION AND I SEE NO OBJECTION THE NUMBER TEN

[10. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF A PORTION OF REAL PROPERTY ABUTTING THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT LOCATED ON SUMMIT DRIVE WITH TMS NO. R510 005 000 271A 0000 (FISCAL IMPACT: purchase price of $22,390.56 plus seller and purchaser closing costs. Account balance $54,455.64, Account # 5402-90-0000-571320; costs to be reimbursed by grant funds (23-025) awarded by the South Carolina Aeronautics Commission)]

RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COUNSEL AND THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF A PORTION OF REAL PROPERTY ABUTTING THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT LOCATED SUMMIT DRIVE TIMES NUMBER RF 0005000271A4 ZEROS. WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SHORTEN THAT UP TELL YOU THANK YOU JOHN. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD AFTERNOON.

WE JUST CALL THAT THE EXECUTOR PIECE IS QUICKER YOU PRICE YOU IN THE BACKUP WITH THIS BASICALLY IS A SMALL OF PROPERTY THAT EFFECTIVELY BECAME AIRPORT PROPERTY YEARS AGO WHEN WE MOVED THE TAX WAY OVER BECAUSE WE'VE GOT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT PROPERTY AND THE THE MOVEMENT LINE WHICH MEANS PEOPLE CAN'T GO FARTHER A CERTAIN LINE WITHOUT CONTRACT CONTACTING THE TOWER FOR PERMISSION IS PROHIBITS FOLKS FROM ACCESSING THAT PROPERTY SO IT'S EFFECTIVELY OURS NOW WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THE FORMALITIES OF ACQUIRING AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS SO AS ARE WE PURCHASING IT AND THEN GETTING REIMBURSED BY THE GRANT WE'VE GOT A GRANT FROM THE STATE THAT COVERS THIS SO WE'RE FULLY FUNDED.

PERFECT. DO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION SO MOVED THIS SECOND PLEASE NOW SECOND MR. BARTHOLOMEW WITH THE SECOND. THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE ONE QUESTION PLEASE. THIS IS IT STRANGE TO ME THAT THE ACCOUNT BALANCE IS 53 OR 55 OR 64 AND THIS ONE AND ALSO ITEM 12 BUT THE ONE DIGIT IS DIFFERENT. YOU HAVE TWO ACCOUNTS OF THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.

THAT'S WEIRD. I'D HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE IF IF THAT'S BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU CAN'T DO BOTH OF THESE IT WILL EXCEED THE AMOUNT IN THE ACCOUNT SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE SAME BECAUSE LIKE I SAID THE ONE IS A FULLY FUNDED STATE CREDIT WHEN WE GET TO 12 IT'S THERE THERE IS AN ACCOUNT NUMBER ON THERE. THE ACCOUNT NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT YES BY ONE DIGIT BUT IT'S STRANGE THAT IT'S THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE ACCOUNTS 54 ONE 5353 455 AND 54 455 THAT'S STILL WEIRD POSSIBLE IT COULD BE A STRANGE COINCIDENCE I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU BUT WE'RE GETTING DOWN TOWARDS THE END OF THE FISCAL YEARS AND THE NUMBERS ARE ALL KIND OF COMING IN TOWARDS HOME PLATE THERE FOR US. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OBJECTION ON

[11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A NON-TENANT COMMERCIAL OPERATING AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND M&L MOBILE DETAILING (FISCAL IMPACT: Beaufort County Executive Airport will receive $75.00 for each detailing transaction. Beaufort County will not incur any costs or expenses associated with this agreement) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director]

THAT? NO, THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD. NO OBJECTION.

ON YOUR NUMBER 11 RECOMMEND APPROVAL THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER IN A NON TENANT COMMERCIAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN COUNTY AND MLA MOBILE DETAILING SO MOVE MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU IN A SECOND THIS IS ACTUALLY WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S DETAILING THE PLANES AND THAT WHEN THEY ARE ON OUR PROPERTY DEATH TOLL ON THE PLANES THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAYING US $75 TO USE I GUESS OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE OR UTILITIES.

RIGHT. SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS KNOW HOW MUCH REVENUE YOU THINK THIS WOULD GENERATE IS HARD TO PREDICT BUT EVERYBODY GETS THEIR PLANES CLEANED SO WE AS WELL GET PAID FOR IT. I MEAN WE'VE WE'VE ALREADY HAD SEVERAL USE THIS CONTRACTOR AND IT'S YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH PEOPLE I JUST WONDER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU KNOW WE WE ALWAYS GET THE REVENUE THE AIRPORT HERE OR LADIES ISLAND I JUST WONDER HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN LOOK AT IT NEXT YEAR LET'S GET IT APPROVED LET IT ROLL FOR A FISCAL YEAR. I'M GOING TO SEE WHAT THAT REVENUE LOOKS LIKE BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S REVENUE POSITIVE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CAN THIS BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION AND I SEE NO OBJECTION. ALL RIGHT.

[12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO TALBERT, BRIGHT, & ELLINGTON FOR PROFESSIONAL AIRPORT PLANNING SERVICES (FISCAL IMPACT: Projects executed under this agreement will be planned using the FAA's Capital Improvement Project (CIP) process and will be primarily grant-funded. GL#: 5402-90-0000-57130 available balance is $53,455) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director]

NUMBER 12 RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO TALBOT BRIGHT AND ELLINGTON PROFESSIONAL AIRPORT PLANNING SERVICES. ALL RIGHT, JOHN, I WILL LET YOU TALK ABOUT THIS ONE IF YOU COULD THOUGH. OKAY THE FAA REQUIRES THAT EVERY FIVE YEARS AIRPORTS RE OFFER RE ADVERTISE THE PLANNING ENVIRONMENTAL AND THEN SEPARATELY ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES FOR AIRPORTS.

SO THAT'S THIS IS THE PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL PORTION OF THAT AND WE PUT THIS OUT IN FEBRUARY IT CAME DUE IN MARCH WE HAD A TEAM REVIEW THE WE HAD THREE RESPONSES TO THE RFQ AND YOU CAN SEE THE TALENT SHEET THERE THE BRET ELLINGTON WAS KIND OF THE OVERALL FAVORITE THEY ARE INCUMBENT CONSULTANT GROUP. THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF A LOT

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OF WORK AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK KIND OF UNDERWAY WITH THEM.

BUT THIS IS THE FOLLOW WITH THE FAA REQUIREMENT. AWESOME.

AND OF COURSE IT'S DUE TO WE GET A MOTION FIRST SO MOVED SO IN A I'M SORRY BUT YES MR. WHERE ARE THEY BASED OUT OF WERE THEY BASED OUT OF THE PLANNERS WE WORK WITH ARE IN THE COLUMBIA OFFICE THEN THE HEADQUARTERS WE WORK WITH IN CHARLOTTE.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION.

THERE'S BEEN FORWARD NO OBJECTION AND AGAIN SEE NO OBJECTION.

[13. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO PURSUE CONDEMNATION FOR PORTIONS OF PARCELS R120 003 000 0609 0000 & R120 003 000 0682 0000 ASSOCIATED WITH RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION FOR A PATHWAY LOCATED ON DEPOT ROAD AS PART OF THE 2018 ONE CENT REFERENDUM (FISCAL IMPACT: R120 003 000 0609 0000 is $32,795.00; R120 003 000 0682 0000 is $23,860.00. Funded by 2018 One Cent Referendum account# 4705-80-0000-PTHWY) - Jared Fralix, ACA - Infrastructure]

WE WILL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 13 RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR TO PURCHASE OR TO PURSUE COMBINATION FOR PORTIONS OF PARCELS. ALL RIGHT, I'LL DO IT. AH, 1200030000609000 IN R120030000682000 ASSOCIATED WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION FOR A PATHWAY LOCATED ON DEFOE ROAD AS PART OF THE 2018 $0.01 REFERENDUM. HI JARED WELCOME BACK.

I AGREE AS PAINFUL IT IS TO READ ALL THOSE NUMBERS THIS IS PAINFUL.

LISTEN TO ALL THOSE NUMBERS BE READ SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FIX THAT BUT I LIKE IT IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION SO WHAT THIS IS THIS IS DEEPER THE PATHWAY ALONG THE PARADE WE HAVE A PROJECT PLAN FROM RIVER ROAD BACK TO THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL AS PART OF THE 2018 SALES TAX WITH THE THOUGHT AND EVENTUAL HOPEFUL IS THAT IT CONTINUES THE SALES TAX PROGRAM FROM THAT POINT TO DOWNTOWN BEFORE SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE DESIGN AND WE'VE GOT APPROVAL TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION THAT WE'RE DOWN TO OUR LAST TWO PROPERTIES WHICH WE HAVE EXHAUSTED ALL OPPORTUNITIES BOTH WRITTEN AND VERBAL COMMUNICATION AND HAVE NOT BEEN IN REACHING AN AGREEMENT. SO THE TWO TRACKS TRACK NUMBER 20 AND TRACK NUMBER 29 AND THESE ARE AT THE TWO END 20 IS THERE ON THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN AND 29 IS ON THE RIGHT IS SCREEN 20 IS THAT REBELLION AS WE'RE APPROACHING RIBAUT ROAD AND IN ESSENCE WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO REACH AN AGREEMENT THAT PROPERTY HAS A MULTIFAMILY UNIT ON IT AND THE OWNER IS REQUESTING A WRITTEN GUARANTEE FROM THE COUNTY TO THAT PROPERTY. THAT PARCEL IS IN THE CITY OF B4 AND WE HAVE NO JURISDICTION OR AUTHORITY TO GRANT THAT WRITTEN GUARANTEE SO WITHOUT THAT IN GUARANTEE THEY'RE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR US BRINGING THIS TO YOU GUYS TODAY ON THE OTHER END IS TRACK 29 AND AGAIN WE HAVE WORKED WITH WITH THIS OWNER TO TRY TO REACH A NEGOTIABLE TERM AND THEY HAVE CONCERNS WHERE THEY WANT SOME POWER FROM DOMINION REROUTED INTERIOR TO THEIR SITE SEPARATE FROM THE PROJECT WHICH WOULD IS BEYOND THE PROJECT SCOPE AS WELL AS SOME PLANNED DRIVEWAY CONSTRUCTION THEY WANT A SURETIES THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CROSS THAT THE PATHWAY WITH SOME OF THEIR DELIVERIES WHICH IS NOT A NOT NOT ISSUE.

THEY JUST WANT SOME GUARANTEES THAT ARE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T GUARANTEE AS PART OF THE PROJECT AS WELL AS SOME RELOCATION OF THE FENCING AND PLANTS THAT WE'RE WILLING TO THROUGH. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO REACH TERMS ON WHAT THAT FIGURE WOULD BE FOR THOSE ITEMS. SO AGAIN THESE TWO PROPERTIES ARE PART OF OF THIS PROJECT AND WITH ANY TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS TRACK NUMBER 20 AND 29.

THERE'S SEVERAL TRACKS INVOLVED ALL THE REST OF THEM WE HAVE WORKED OUT NEGOTIATED TERMS WITH AND ARE MOVING FORWARD AND THESE ARE THE LAST TWO TO MOVE THIS PROJECT.

THE NEXT PHASE TO MOTION THAT WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE OF THE CONDEMNATION I DON'T GENERALLY LIKE TO CONDEMN PROPERTY BUT I THINK YOU WHAT YOU'VE SAID IS THAT THERE'S REALLY NO REAL WITH THE ROAD ITSELF WITH THE PATHWAY THERE'S SOME PERSONAL ISSUES THAT WE WE JUST DON'T NEGOTIATE THAT KIND OF DETAIL WITH STUFF SO I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM EVERYBODY ELSE IS MOVE FORWARD. I THINK THE PATHWAY IS LEADING HERE TO DOWNTOWN BEAUFORT EVENTUALLY I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER START TOWARDS THE END AND STUFF.

SO YES LET'S I GET THE MOTION SECOND MEMBERS ARE THANK YOU ANYBODY ELSE FOR DISCUSSION MR. CHAIRMAN THE ONLY THING I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON IS THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THESE PROPERTIES WILL GET THE PROPER OF MONEY FOR THEM REGARDLESS OF WE CONDEMN OR NOT.

THAT'S CORRECT AS PART NEGOTIATE OUR PART OF CONDEMNATION GOES YOU HAVE TO PUT THE UP IN AN ESCROW ACCOUNT WHILE THE CASE IS SETTLED AND THEN WHATEVER THE

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SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT OUT OF THAT CONDEMNATION SUIT SO THEY WILL GET PAID SOME FEE WE'VE OFFERED ENOUGH OF OUR VALUE AND THEY HAVE NOT AGREED AND THEN NOW THE COURTS WILL DETERMINE THE VALUE. THANK YOU. YEAH, I'M WITH MR. GLOVER ON THIS OF THOSE THINGS I AM NOT A FAN OF COMBINATION AT ALL. I THINK I VOTED NO EVERY SINGLE TIME SO FAR ADVANCED SO WE HAVE EXHAUSTED OPTIONS SO YES SO SO WE HAVE OUR RIGHT OF WAY AGENT INTERNAL THAT THE PATTY WILSON WE HAVE OUR RIGHT AWAY ATTORNEY OR RIGHT AWAY CONSULTANT AND THEN A COMBINATION ATTORNEY ALL THE TEAM THAT ARE WORKING THROUGH THE ISSUES ON THIS PROJECT AND ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. SO THEY HAVE EXHAUSTED RESOURCES AVAILABLE AND THIS IS I'D LIKE TO SAY TO IN THE COMMUNICATION THE PROPERTY OWNERS KNOW THAT WE'RE MOVING THIS ACTION. THEY ARE WELL AWARE OF IT ALREADY. YES. THANK YOU TOO.

WE NEED A REAL CALL. SARAH, COULD YOU CALL JUST BE SAFE.

THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER YES.

COUNCILMEMBER HOWARD YES. COUNCILMEMBER REED YES. COUNCILMEMBER YES.

COUNCILMEMBER TABACHNICK YES CHAIRMAN PASSING IT YES COMMITTEE VICE CHAIR BARTHOLOMEW YES. COMMITTEE CHAIR CUNNINGHAM THE MOTION PASSES THANK YOU SIR.

[14. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE USDA COMPOSTING AND FOOD WASTE REDUCTION PROGRAM GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $273,600 FOR A COUNTY PILOT COMPOST PROGRAM (FISCAL IMPACT: The grant is a 75/25 match. 75% from USDA and 25% from local match. The county's match is $68,400 will be from solid waste funds 2555-10-0000-43780. It is anticipated that $50,000 of the local match will be expended in FY25 and remaining in FY26. Funds for the first $50,000 in expenses have been budgeted for FY25) - Jared Fralix, ACA Infrastructure]

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 14 THEN RECOMMEND THEN APPROVAL OF COUNCIL RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE USDA COME. COME.

WOW. COMPOSING AND FOOD AND WASTE REDUCTION GRANT IN THE AMOUNT $273,600 FOR A COUNTY PILOT COMPOST PROGRAM. I HAVE A MOTION I'LL BE GLAD TO THAT IN A SECOND. BUT MR. BURTON, LET ME THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THIS IS CAN YOU GO OVER THE BREAKDOWN OF THIS FOR ME, JARED? YES AND THE MATCH ON IT AND WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS US ONE SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I'LL INVITE VICTORIA HOFFMAN, OUR SOLID WASTE MANAGER TO COME BRIEF THIS AND JUST KUDOS TO HER SHE AND HER STAFF AND KATIE HERRERA ASSISTANT MANAGER ENVIRONMENTAL WERE KEY IN ONE SEEKING OUT THIS GRANT APPLICATION AND TWO APPLYING FOR THIS SO THIS IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD AND. I'M HAPPY ALSO THAT WE'RE FINALLY TURNING THIS KIND OF MORBID INTO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE POSITIVE.

SO I GET TO IT TWICE HERE TO BRING THE JOY SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO YOU. COMPOSTING IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE COME AND SPOKEN TO THIS COMMITTEE BEFORE WITH THEIR BACK YARD COMPOSTING. WE'VE INITIATED THIS COMPOST IDEA TO RESIDENTS. WE TOLD THE PUBLIC THROUGH FACEBOOK THAT THEY COULD GET A FREE COMPOST THEN WE WERE OVERWHELMED AND WE HAD TO SHUT IT DOWN AND GATHER SINCE IT'S ABOUT US. AND THEN WHENEVER WE DID INITIATE OUR RECYCLING COORDINATOR I PRESENTED A TALK TO RESIDENTS AND HAD A FULL HOUSE STANDING ROOM ONLY.

SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT RESIDENTS ARE EXCITED TO SEE AND BRING COMPOSTING YOUR FOOD WASTE AND OR OTHER ORGANIC MATERIAL MEETS EPA DIVERSION RATE GOALS AS WELL AS SOUTH CAROLINA DIRECT GOALS. AND IT ALSO IS AND PART OF OUR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING GOALS IS TO A PROGRAM TO DIVERT THIS MATERIAL YOU HAD A QUESTION I BELIEVE WHAT IT WOULD COST THE COUNTY AND SO A COUPLE OF MATCHES IN THERE SO YEAH YEAH IT IS A IT IS A MATCHING FUND SO WE GET 273 BUT IN A NUTSHELL I CAN'T FIND MY NOTES ADD THE AMOUNT BUT IT IS AROUND $65,000 THAT WE WOULD BE MATCHING THEM AND PART OF THOSE FUNDS WILL BE GOING TOWARDS A ROBUST EDUCATION PROGRAM AND WITHIN THE GRANT WE REQUESTED THAT OUR ON CALL HDR ASSIST US IN CREATING THE COMPOST PILOT PROGRAM SO WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT TEAM ON OUR HANDS ONLY FROM COUNTY BUT HDR AS WELL WHO HAVE A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND ACTUALLY ASSISTED US IN OBTAINING THIS GRANT. SO PART OF OUR PROGRAM IN THE THAT WE INITIATED TO USDA WHEN WE REQUESTED THESE FUNDS WAS TO CREATE AN EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH PROGRAM THAT WOULD ENTAIL HAVING A FRIEND FOR OUR WELL KNOWN LOVED RERUN MASCOT AND SO WE WOULD CREATE A COMPOSTING MASCOT TO COUPLE THAT TO BE ABLE TO EDUCATE KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS AND ALSO AT OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENTS AND THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE SPEAKING TO RESIDENTS BOTH AT ALL AGE LEVELS FROM TO ADULTS TO GET A REALLY WELL-ROUNDED INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC

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BECAUSE IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME BUT ONLY IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT WE'RE WANTING THAT LARGE EDUCATION PROGRAM.

AND THEN ANOTHER TASK WE HAVE IS TO FORMALIZE IT'S GREAT IT'S FUNDING WHENEVER.

YOU GET THIS MONEY, PEOPLE KIND OF COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK. SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD CONTACTING US LIKE HEY WE WANT TO BRING THIS BUSINESS TO. SO NOT ONLY IS WE ARE WE FINDING PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COMPOSE BUT IS ALSO BRINGING BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES TO AND JASPER COUNTIES PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME AND HELP US WITH THIS. AND THEN AFTER WE FORMALIZE THE PARTNERSHIPS OBVIOUSLY WE NEED A PLACE TO COMPOST IT. SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO THAT.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THERE'S A COMPOST FACILITY JUST OUTSIDE OF COUNTY AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO OPTION OF HAVING AN INVASIVE SYSTEM CHARLESTON COMPOSTS ALREADY I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THESE VARY BUT THEY A RESIDENTIAL DROP OFF PROGRAM THAT'S REALLY SUCCESSFUL THEY ACTUALLY JUST OPENED SEVERAL MORE LOCATIONS AND THEN ALSO ARCADIAN WERE JUST TOURING NEW HANOVER COUNTY AND THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA AND THEY HAVE AN INVASIVE SYSTEM THAT THEY COLLECT RESIDENTIAL FOOD WASTE THEY WERE ABLE TO START SCHOOLS AND NOW THEY'RE GETTING BUSINESSES ON BOARD AS WELL. SO THEN ONCE WE GET EVERYTHING SETTLED AND THERE'S A PLACE TO TAKE THE COMPOST WE'LL START OUTFITTING THE CENTERS AND CREATING THE AND IT'S SIMPLE IT'S BASICALLY A DUMPSTER CONTAINER DON'T CONTAIN A LOT SO PEOPLE CAN'T PUT THINGS THERE THAT CAN'T BE COMPOSTED AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE TRAINING COMES IN. ONCE YOU RECEIVE THE TRAINING YOU GET THE COMBINATION OF LOCK, YOU'RE IN THE CLUB, YOU TO HELP US SAVE THE PLANET RIGHT? AND THEN OF COURSE WE'RE BE WORKING WITH LOCAL FARMERS TO ENSURE THAT THE COMPOST THAT WE ARE CREATING NOT ONLY IS GOING TO BE USED FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND PART OF THE COUNTY FACILITIES BUT ALSO THESE LOCAL FARMERS AND AGRICULTURAL PRODUCERS. MR. DREW YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT THIS IS VERY APPROPRIATE FOR EARTH DAY. IT IS OUR DAY TO HAVE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO MAKE THE WORMS WORK FOR US SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO I JUST HAVE MORE QUESTION. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S 68,400. HMM.

FIRST 50,000 WE'RE PUTTING INTO THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. THEN THE REMAINING 400 WOULD BE THE YEAR AFTER. IT LOOKS LIKE 26. SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED TO YOUR BUDGET FOR THE FUTURE? YES.

SO THE IDEA WITH THIS IS FOR THOSE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AFFORD THE VENDOR WHO GOES AND COLLECTS THE COMPOST, THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS. SO THE IDEA IS TO START AT THE CENTERS WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO DROP OFF THEIR FOOD WASTE AND THEN THAT HAULER JUST AS WE HAVE PEOPLE AND COLLECT RECYCLING AND OUR MSW THAT HAULER WOULD THE COMPOST MATERIALS SO IT WOULD GO INTO OUR BUDGET AND IT WOULD BE A REVOLVING ITEM IN OUR THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UP HERE WAS WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE THAT I GET IT'S A PROGRAM FOR THE FUTURE THAT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUE TO ADD IT TO YOUR BUDGET FROM NOW ON YES IT WILL BE THE START UP COSTS BUT THEN BE ADDED INTO THE BUDGET.

SO IT'S SOMETHING WE EXPECT TO PROBABLY CONTINUE TO GROW WELL IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL, YEAH ABSOLUTELY IT WILL BE A COST BUT THERE'S ALSO A CHANCE FOR A WASTE DIVERSION AND SO EVERYTHING WE TAKE TO THE LANDFILL COSTS US MONEY. IT COSTS US MONEY TO HAUL IT AND IT COSTS US MONEY TO TIP IT. AND THERE'S ABOUT 18% OF WHAT WE THINK IS YARD WASTE AS WELL AS FOOD WASTE AND AND FOOD WASTE IS ACTUALLY A BIT HARDER TO CALCULATE BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE DISCARDING SO WE DO IT.

WE SAW THAT STUDY BUT THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR COST SAVINGS WHENEVER WE'RE DIVERTING THE WASTE ALL RIGHT. THE CONSUMER I REALLY THIS AS AN INVESTMENT FOR THE FUTURE HERE WITH RETURN COMING TO THE COUNTY FOR THE BYPRODUCT THAT'S WHAT I SEE AND RIGHT FARMERS COULD USE THAT AND GARDENERS CAN USE THAT COMPOST EVENTUALLY FOR THEIR PRODUCTION.

SO AT AND IT'LL PAY FOR IT. ABSOLUTELY COMPOST IS A REALLY GREAT PRODUCT YOU HAVE TO YOU CAN USE LESS CHEMICALS ON YOUR CROPS AND THEN IT IS A CIRCULAR SOLUTION TO SOME PROBLEMS SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED AND EAGER TO GET IT STARTED AND THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME STARTUP COSTS BUT IT'S AN INITIATIVE THAT WE REALLY WANT TO TAKE AN INVESTMENT.

IT IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE. SURE IT'S IMPORTANT IN MY TO BRING THIS TO COUNTY AND IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET AN INVESTMENT COMPOSTING SYSTEM SIMILAR TO NEW HANOVER COUNTY IT WOULD BE NOT ONLY THE FIRST IN COUNTY BUT ALSO THE FIRST IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. SO WE WOULD BE PAVING THE WAY TO A GREENER FUTURE.

YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE SLOGANS DID YOU WRITE DOWN? YOU CAME IN I GOT THEM OUT OF MY HEAD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO US. I THINK WE'RE ALL ON BOARD.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON THAT ASPECT OF IT. SO THEIR DESIRE TO GET A MOTION

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ON THAT I'M SORRY I FORGOT I DID AWESOME THIS BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION ALL RIGHT THIS

[15. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO J.H. HIERS CONSTRUCTION FOR RFP #032124 DIRT ROAD PAVING CONTRACT #55 IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,966,517.00 (FISCAL IMPACT: The contract fee is for design, materials, and construction of the base scope roads in the amount of $2,541,846.00. The design alternative, Fredericka Ln, is included for the amount of $37,734.00. Staff recommends a 15% contingency of $386,397.00, bringing the projects total cost to $2,966,517.00. The funding for this project will be TAG Road Improvements account #2342-30-0000-54500 with a current balance of $3,601,556.76) - Jared Fralix, ACA- Infrastructure]

WILL BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION YOU THANK YOU NUMBER 15 RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO J.H. AYRES CONSTRUCTION FOR RFP NUMBER 03212 FOR DIRT ROAD PAVING CONTRACT NUMBER 55 IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,996,517 JERRY AND A BRIEF ON THAT FOR A SECOND THIS IS I THINK WE WE TALK ABOUT FOUR POSSIBLY FIVE ROADS IS THREE POSSIBLY FOR THREE POSSIBLE FOR THANK YOU. YES. SO THIS IS OUR YEARLY CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR OUR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT DIRT ROAD PAVING.

SO 2019 WE ESTABLISH OUR FIVE YEAR PAVEMENT PLAN AND THEN WE MADE A QUICK AMENDMENT IN 2021 WE HAD SOME ROADS ON THE FIRST KEY THAT WAS IN TWO YEARS WE UPDATED THOSE SO PAVED ALL THOSE OR DROPPED ALL THOSE EXCUSE ME LAST YEAR. SO THIS IS THE FIFTH YEAR OUT OF THAT FIVE YEAR PAVEMENT PLAN WHAT THIS DOES CALL FOR WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED OUR NEXT FIVE YEAR PAVEMENT PLAN SO SIX YEARS 613 AND THIS CALLS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY STARTED ON THE DESIGN OF ONE OF NEXT YEAR'S ROAD PROJECTS NOT THE CONSTRUCTION JUST THE DESIGN ELEMENTS ALL THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED SO WE HAD WE PUT THIS OUT IN MARCH WE HAD TWO BIDS.

JAY TIRES HAS DONE A LOT OF DIRT ROAD PAVING FOR US IN THE PAST AND THEY WERE THE LOW BID AT $2.5 MILLION. AND IN GENERAL WE HAVE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS IN THIS FOR VARIOUS SOME SOME EARTHWORK REASONS AND SOME PERMITTING REASONS. SO WE CARRY A 15% CONTINGENCY ON THESE PROJECTS OF A TOTAL ABOUT 385,000 ALL IN ALL, BRINGING US TO A TOTAL COST 2.9 2,966,000 AND THIS IS THIS WOULD BE FUNDED OUT OF OUR TAG FUND SO TAG FUND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IS ARE $10 OR $20 FEE THAT WE PAY WHEN WE RENEW OUR LICENSES.

WE USE IT PRIMARILY FOR ROAD PAVING AND SO CURRENTLY IT HAS A FUNDING ACCOUNT BEFORE THIS EXPENDITURE OF $3.6 MILLION. DO I HAVE A MOTION? YES, SIR, PLEASE, MR. GLOVER.

AND A SECOND SECOND. MR. REED'S ANY OBJECTION? I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION BUT I DO LIKE THE WAY THIS JERRY DID YOU INCLUDE FREDERICA LANE IN THERE? YES, SIR. MR. GLOVER'S BROTHER SERVES ON THE CTSI AND HE'S BEEN ON THERE FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS OR SO AND SINCE HE GOT ON THERE HE WANTED DE WASHINGTON I KNOW FOR A FACT BUT THINK HE SNUCK IN FREDRICKA TAYLOR ALSO ANYHOW SO THOSE TWO ROADS HAVE BEEN ON HIS LIST AND THAT WAS HIS SOLE PURPOSE FOR JOINING CTSI SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT USING CTSI FUNDING TAG FUNDING WE'RE GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO FINALLY GET TO THESE ROADS.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OBJECTION? SO MOVE FORWARD.

[16. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL FOR A REQUEST TO PURCHASE A TEK84 BODY SCANNER FOR THE DETENTION CENTER (FISCAL IMPACT: total funds requested are the bid amount $207,000 plus a contingency of $20,700 for a total cost of $227,700. Funding is coming from the Detention Center fund, 1040-80-1250-54300. Current account balance is $750,500.00) - John Robinson, Interim County Administrator]

NO OBJECTION THEN. THANKS, JARED. ALL RIGHT, A FINAL ONE.

BEFORE EXECUTIVE SESSION WE HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF COUNCIL A QUEST TO PURCHASE A TEAK 84 TEAK 84 BODY SCANNER FOR THE DETENTION. WE HAVE A MOTION MAKE THE MOTION IN A SECOND. A SECOND. CAN WE JUST GO AHEAD AND PULL THAT UP ON THE SCREEN SO PEOPLE CAN SEE IT. AND THEN WE HAD SOME DO WE NOT HAVE ONE NOW A SCANNER THERE AT ALL? NO, NO.

YEAH SO THIS BRINGS US INTO THE NEW WORLD. OKAY.

SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS AFTER RIGHT. OKAY.

WELL DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONVERSATIONS WITH, ANDY CONVERSATION THAT HE WAS JUST LOOKED LIKE IT RESOLVE SOME ISSUES THAT WE DID HAVE CORRECT RIGHT DO YOU WANT TO DO A LITTLE PRESENTATION ON IT REAL QUICK AND SEE IF THAT WELL IF YOU'D LIKE YOU TO THE MATERIALS ALSO IN YOUR BACK UP THIS IS A REALLY STATE THE ART DEVICE THIS IS USED THROUGH THROUGHOUT SOUTH CAROLINA AND SOME LARGER PRISONS AND LOCAL AS WELL IT'S IT'S APPROVED BY THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AC DC WE HAVE A CURRENT SPACE THAT'S USED IN OUR FINGERPRINTING ROOM RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD BE REPURPOSED TO HOUSE THIS SPACE.

THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT TOOL THAT CAN BE USED FOR EVERY POTENTIAL INMATE THAT COMES THROUGH THIS ALLEY BOUGHT INTO THE DETENTION CENTER. IT HAS THE ABILITY TO IDENTIFY FOREIGN BODY OBJECTS ON ON A POTENTIAL INMATE THAT A CORRECTIONS OFFICER COULD POTENTIALLY MISS THIS I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION IS THIS WHILE OBVIOUSLY SEARCHING SO WELL AN

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INMATE OR A PERSON THAT TO GO INTO THIS BE GIVEN THE OPTION TO DO A SEARCH OR USE THE SCANNER SO TO SAY ELIMINATE IS NOT NECESSARILY TRUE. OKAY.

SO THIS CAN BE USED A PRECURSOR STAGE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT REQUIRE THE STRIP SEARCH THAT WOULD NORMALLY HAPPEN THAT GO AS INMATES COME THROUGH. BUT THERE'S A VERY DETAILED SPECIFIC POLICY FOR THE INTAKE OF AN INMATE. SO THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL THAT COULD BE USED VERSUS OR COULD BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT SO IT WOULD WOULD THERE BE AN OPT OUT POLICY PUT IN PLACE BY THE DETENTION CENTER WHERE I DON'T THINK MANY PEOPLE WOULD OPT FOR THE OTHER OPTION BUT IT SHOULD THEY NOT WANT TO BE EXPOSED TO X RAY WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO TO DO THE MORE TRADITIONAL ROUTE? YES, SIR.

YES. SO THERE IS I DON'T WANT SPEAK TOO MUCH ABOUT THE POLICY BECAUSE IT'S VERY DETAILED. I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING WHAT THE POLICY WOULD BE WRITTEN SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR DETENTION CENTER AND THEN APPROVED THROUGH THE CDC.

OKAY. DO WE NEED A REAL CALL ON THIS ? CAN THIS BE DONE WITH NO OBJECTION? ALL RIGHT.

AND I SEE NO OBJECTION. SO WE'LL MOVE ON OUR FINAL ITEM.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

WE'LL BE MOVING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IF I HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 17 PURSUANT TO C CODE SECTION 30 DASH FOR DASH 78 TWO TO ENGAGE IN DISCUSSIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS AND INCIDENT AND TO PROPOSE CONCRETE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS I HAVE A MOTION MOVE THE SECOND O SECOND ANY OBJECTION TO GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE WILL MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION . ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NOTHING CAME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY. NO ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN SO . THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AND WE'LL BE BACK ON AT 5:00 FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU

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