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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE COUNTY COUNCIL BUDGET WORKSHOP MEETING TO ORDER.
WILL YOU ALL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? MY PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ONE PERSON SHORT OF A QUORUM OF COUNTY COUNCIL.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO CONDUCT ANY BUSINESS TODAY THAT REQUIRES ACTION BY COUNTY COUNCIL.
UH, ONLINE WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN TABER NECK AND COUNCILMAN MCKELLEN.
AND AS YOU SEE, WE ONLY HAVE THREE OF US.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THE DAY IS NOT A VERY GOOD DAY.
SOME PEOPLE ARE CAUGHT IN TRAFFIC.
SO, PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
AND I WOULD ASK A MEMBER OF COUNSEL TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TODAY'S AGENDA.
MR. LAWSON MAKES THE MOTION AND I'LL SECOND IT.
IT IS DULY MOTIONED AND SECONDED.
UH, THIS AGENDA WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION, AND I SEE NO OBJECTIONS.
MR. ROBINSON, YOU WILL HAVE THE OPENING REMARKS.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND COUNSEL.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
UM, THE, UH, WORKSHOP THIS MORNING IS, UH, IS JUST THAT, IT IS A WORKSHOP.
UH, THE THINGS THAT YOU WILL BE, UH, PRESENTED TODAY ARE CONTINUE TO BE A WORK IN PROGRESS AS WE REFINE, UH, EACH OF OUR, OUR BUDGET AREAS AND OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.
UM, IN, I THINK IT WAS EARLY FEBRUARY, WE MET AND WE, WE HAD A STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS FOR COUNCIL.
THE, UH, OBJECTIVE THEN WAS TO, UH, LISTEN TO COUNCIL PREPARE FOR, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2025 AND, AND FIND THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO, UH, THAT WE WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE NEXT YEAR, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, FUNDED THOSE IN OUR BUDGET PROPERLY.
SO WE HAD SOME ACTION ITEMS THAT CAME FROM THERE.
WE BEGAN WITH FIVE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, AND THOSE WERE, UH, IMPROVING QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, IMPROVING CUSTOMER SERVICE, UH, ADDRESSING CULTURE AND COMMUNITY INVESTING IN OUR ECONOMY, AND, UM, CONCERNS OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.
SO I WILL BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE, UH, CATEGORIES THERE AND THE ACTION ITEMS THAT, UH, STAFF HAS TAKEN, UH, FROM THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING.
SO, FIRST, UH, THE NUMBER ONE, UM, CONVERSATION AMONGST COUNCIL WAS THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE AREA GENERATED THE MOST CONVERSATION, AND MOST OF THAT CONVERSATION WAS AROUND, UH, HOUSING WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED WERE MAINTAINING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND, UH, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND WILL CONTINUE TO, UH, TO WORK WITH THE HOUSING TRUST FUND.
WE, UH, TALK WITH THEIR CHAIRMAN AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK, UH, FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS.
UM, ONE OF THE NEXT ACTION ITEMS, UH, THAT CAME FROM THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING, UH, CONCERNING WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WAS THE DESIRE TO COLLABORATE WITH FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL, PRIVATE AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO GENERATE INTEREST IN PROGRAMS WHICH COULD, UH, WORK TOGETHER IN THE INTEREST OF INCREASING WORKFORCE, HOUS, WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, OPTIONS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
UM, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, UH, WE'VE PREPARED A, UH, JAT, WHICH IS A JOB TOOL ANALYSIS TO CREATE A JOB DESCRIPTION FOR A HOUSING SPECIALIST.
WE'VE ADDED THIS FTE TO OUR PERSONNEL BUDGET FOR FY 25.
AS THIS PROGRAM BEGINS TO DEVELOP, AND THE ROLE PROVES TO BE NECESSARY AMONG THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE, OF THIS INDIVIDUAL WILL BE TO WORK ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY TO DEVELOP THOSE PARTNERSHIPS, TO GROW WORKFORCE
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AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY'S MARKET.UM, THAT IS A, THAT IS A BIG TASK THAT'S GONNA TAKE SOME, UH, A DEDICATED INDIVIDUAL ON STAFF TO WORK TOWARDS.
SO WE'RE PREPARED FOR THAT COMING INTO NEXT YEAR.
UM, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CONTINUING TO WORK WITH LOW COUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, UH, AS THEY REQUEST FUNDS FOR REPAIR OF PHONE OF HOMES FOR QUALIFIED CANDIDATES.
UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY, UH, LOCO SENT US ONE YESTERDAY THAT I, THAT I APPROVED.
UH, SO THAT'S A VERY GOOD PROGRAM.
ANOTHER CONCERN FROM COUNCIL WAS SENIOR HOUSING AND REPAIR OF HOMES FOR SENIORS.
UM, WE'VE ADDED THIS TO OUR LIST OF, UH, PRIORITIES FOR FY 2025.
UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY STAFF, UH, WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO FIND SOME OPTIONS, UM, TO INCREASE THAT, UH, ABILITY TO WORK WITH SENIORS AND FIND SOME PROGRAMS THAT HELP NOT ONLY REPAIR THEIR HOMES, BUT KEEP THEM IN THEIR, IN THEIR HOMES.
UM, ANOTHER, UH, INITIATIVE FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING IS TO INSPECT BEAUFORT COUNTY'S INVENTORY OF OWNED PROPERTY.
WE HAVE AN INVENTORY OF OUR PROPERTY, UM, UH, AND THERE'S, THERE'S A, IT'S A PRETTY EXTENSIVE LIST.
AND SO WHAT WE'LL DO IN FY 25 IS CONT IS EXPLOIT THAT LIST TO FIND PROPERTIES WHICH, UH, CAN BE USED, UH, FOR WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SOME OF THE PROPERTIES HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESTRICTIONS ON THEM, SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, DON'T VIOLATE ANY, UM, ANY AGREEMENTS THAT ARE ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
AND THE, UH, THE IMPACT THAT COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY CAN HAVE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SIGNIFICANT, UM, GIVING DEVELOPERS AND, UH, COMMUNITY GROUPS A PLACE WHICH WITH THE BUILD WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WILL SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE COST.
NEXT WAS, UH, CONTINUING TO WORK WITH, UH, WITH OUR PARTNERS, UH, BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL, UM, AND, UH, OTHER PARTNERS WHO ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH US TO DEVELOP WORKFORCE, SOME WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A PROJECT WITH BEAUFORT MEMORIAL FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS, AND ARE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO THE FINISH LINE ON THAT PROJECT.
SO THAT IS THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, WORK, UH, HOUSING, THAT QUALITY OF LIFE WAS OUR NUMBER ONE.
AND WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS THE, WAS THE NUMBER ONE, UM, MOST COMMENTED, UH, ITEM DURING OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.
ALSO, UNDER, UM, QUALITY OF LIFE, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT RECREATION.
UM, ONE OF THE, UM, MOST IMPORTANT COMMENTS HAD TO DO WITH OUR MASTER PLANNING.
UH, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE DEVELOPED SEVERAL MASTER PLANS, OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES.
UM, WE DID A PUBLIC FACILITY STUDY.
WE DID A PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.
WE DID A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, A SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS, AND A, UH, PUBLIC LANDING.
UH, SO OUR PUBLIC BOAT LANDING FACILITIES, UH, STUDY, YOU'LL SEE IN THE, UH, PRESENTATION THAT MR. LARSON WILL, WILL PRESENT THAT WE HAVE PROJECTS IN EACH ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES.
AND I HAVE A WHOLE STACK OF THOSE PLANS SITTING ON MY DESK THAT WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING.
UH, SO WE ARE CERTAINLY INCLUDED PROJECTS FOR PARKS AND REC AND FACILITIES INCREASES, UH, UH, FACILITIES, UH, MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS IN OUR, IN OUR 2025 RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE, THE NEXT ITEM WAS IMPROVING CUSTOMER SERVICE.
CUSTOMER SERVICE WILL BE THE INTERNAL FOCUS OF STAFF FOR FY 2025.
UM, I'LL WORK WITH OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM TO FIND OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE AND EXECUTE ON THOSE IDEAS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW, WHICH IS PREPARED TO GO OUT FOR BID, IS THE, UH, REMODEL OF THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
SO THIS CHAMBER, THE ADMINISTRATIVE HALLWAYS AND THE FRONT LOBBY, AND THAT FRONT LOBBY IS, UH, OFTEN THE FIRST PLACE THAT OUR CUSTOMERS SEE WHEN THEY ENTER THE BUILDING, UM, THAT WILL BE DESIGNED TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE EITHER AUTOMATED SERVICE OR A LIVE CONCIERGE AT THE, AT THE FRONT DOOR.
UM, WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE YET, UH, BUT THE DESIGN GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO EITHER OF THOSE THINGS NOW, AT ANY TIME.
UH, CAN WE INTERRUPT YOU IF THERE ARE YES, SIR.
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CERTAINLY.UM, SO I'M GONNA PUT ONE IN YOUR EAR.
UH, AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT REMODELING THIS BUILDING, THERE IS A NEW TYPE OF WAY OF DOING BUSINESS, AND THAT'S DRIVE THROUGH.
AND WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER HAVING PEOPLE BE ABLE TO DRIVE UP TO THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING TO PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES, TO GET FORMS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT, UH, IN OUR MUNICIPALITIES.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MAY WANT TO EXPLORE HERE.
I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT FOR A, UH, FOR A MUNICIPAL BUILDING.
UM, ALSO IN OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE.
SO, UM, CONVERSATION, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT OUR WEBSITE.
UH, SO I'VE, UH, SPOKEN WITH OUR, UM, IT DIRECTOR COMMUNICATIONS AND OUR PIO AND WORKING TOGETHER TO EVALUATE OUR EXISTING, UH, WEBSITES AND, UH, AND WHAT WE CAN DO DIFFERENTLY.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR WEBSITE IS AROUND FOUR AND A HALF OR FIVE YEARS OLD, SO IT'S TIME TO, UH, REFRESH THAT AND TAKE A NEW APPROACH.
SO YOU'LL SEE SOME FUNDS, UM, IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND IT TO, UM, LOOK AT THAT WEBSITE.
UM, WE HAD SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR PHONE SYSTEM.
SO OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR HAS ENSURED US THAT OUR, THAT OUR PHONE SYSTEM IN THE FRONT LOBBY WORKS PROPERLY, THAT WHEN FOLKS ENTER THE, UH, ADMINISTRATION, UH, BUILDING, IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE, RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A PHONE THERE AND A KIOSK.
UM, UNTIL WE, UNTIL WE REMODEL.
RIGHT NOW, THE KIOSK IS SMALL.
HOPEFULLY, WHEN WE GET DONE, IF WE CONTINUE TO USE A KIOSK, IT'LL BE SOMETHING BIG.
UH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY EFFECTIVE AND JUST HELPS FOLKS GET WHERE THEY NEED TO TO GO.
THERE WAS ALSO A, A CONVERSATION ABOUT AN, AN AI PROGRAM THAT COULD BE USED IN SOME KIND OF AUTOMATED DEVICE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DEVELOP THE BACKGROUND OF THAT.
FOLKS CAN ASK IT A QUESTION AND IT WILL HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT OFFICE THEY NEED TO GO, WHAT FORMS THEY MIGHT NEED TO, UH, TO DO.
UH, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO, FOR TECHNOLOGY TO TAKE THE PLACE OF A, OF A PERSON, UM, THERE.
SO WE MAY DECIDE THAT THE CONCIERGE IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.
WE'LL WORK WITH STAFF ROBINSON.
UM, HAVE WE DECIDED TO NOT IMPLEMENT A DIRECTORY ON THE WALL THERE WITH THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE WHO OPERATE WITHIN THE BUILDING WITH THEIR ROOM NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH IT? NO, SIR.
THERE, THERE IS A, UH, THERE IS A DIRECTORY, UH, ON THE WALL NOW.
UM, AND WE HAVE A, UH, UH, WE PRINTED A LARGE POSTER BOARD THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE LOBBY DOOR, AS WELL AS THE, UH, ELECTRONIC DEVICE TO DIRECT FOLKS.
WELL, I MEANT IN THE LONG TERM, WILL IT BE SOMETHING THAT IS CREATED THAT IS, UM, UH, PERMANENTLY POSTED THERE THAT CAN BE MAYBE A GLASS CASE THAT COULD OPEN UP SO THAT IF CHANGES HAVE TO BE MADE, THEY CAN BE MADE WITH, UH, I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY IS THESE DAYS THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, THERE COULD BE AN ELECTRONIC, UH, PRESENTATION OF, UH, PEOPLE AND PLACES THAT COULD CHANGE JUST WITH SOME SOFTWARE, BECAUSE, UH, THE OLD DAYS, IT WAS JUST A, IT WAS JUST A DIRECTORY BOARD THAT YOU OPENED UP AND YOU HAD TO GO IN AND CHANGE IT, YOU KNOW, YOURSELF, REMEMBER THOSE LITTLE WHITE YES, SIR.
SO THERE MUST BE SOMETHING THESE DAYS THAT YOU CAN JUST USE A SOFTWARE PROGRAM AND UPDATE IT.
AND THAT WAY WE COULD KEEP IT CURRENT, MAYBE JUST AN ELECTRONIC, UH, BULLETIN BOARD UP THERE TO, UH, TO, UH, TELL PEOPLE WHO'S IN THE BUILDING AND WHERE THEY ARE.
UH, WE MAY, WE MAY END UP WITH BOTH.
WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS STILL IN THE, IN THE FOYER OF THE LOBBY THERE NOW, UH, THE OLD, THE OLD SCHOOL BOARD WITH THE LITTLE WHITE LETTERS IN IT, IT STILL EXISTS.
UH, BUT I THINK THE, UH, THE DIRECTION WILL BE MORE OF AN ELECTRONIC, UM, MORE OF AN ELECTRONIC APPROACH.
UH, IT'S A LOT MORE FLEXIBLE, MUCH QUICKER TO, TO UPDATE.
AND, UH, AND WE CAN PUT PRETTY PICTURES ON IT AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS AS WELL.
WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME FOR GETTING THAT IMPLEMENT? WELL, SIR, THE, UM, THE PROJECT IS, SHOULD BE OUT BID WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK.
AND THIS IS THE PROJECT FOR THE ADMIN BUILDING, UM, UM, REFIT, UPFIT, UH, REMODEL.
UH, SO THAT SHOULD BE OUT IN THE NEXT WEEK.
THEN IT'S PROBABLY 30 DAYS OR SO FOR US TO SELECT A CONTRACTOR, UH, GO UNDER, GO UNDER CONTRACT, AND THEN BEGIN THE WORK.
SO HOPEFULLY BEFORE, UM, JULY WILL BEGIN WORK ON THE REMODEL OF THE ADMIN BUILDING AND THAT.
SO WHEN WE PUT THE, UH, TRAFFIC LIGHT IN WINDMILL HARBOR, THAT
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WAS PART OF THE 2 78 GATEWAY PROJECT.WE AN EXCEPTION TOOK IT OUT OF THERE FOR SPECIAL ATTENTION.
CAN THAT LOBBY GET SPECIAL ATTENTION OUTSIDE THIS CONTRACT YOU BIDDING THAT WON'T BE READY TILL JULY? YES, SIR.
WE CAN, UH, WE CAN TALK WITH OUR CONTRACTOR AND SEE IF THAT CAN BE WHERE THE PROJECT BEGINS.
UM, I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS.
I'M NOT REALLY, I'M NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT TALKING TO THE CONTRACTOR TO HAVE THE PROJECT BEGIN THERE.
I'M TALKING TO HAVING AS A STANDALONE PROJECT SO WE CAN GET THIS IMPLEMENTED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
UH, WE, THERE'S, THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE CAN DO.
UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY, WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK AND SEE WHAT YOUR DESIRE IS FOR US TO GET DONE THERE.
UH, WE HAVE DONE SOME THINGS IN THE LOBBY IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
UM, BUT IF WE NEED TO PUT A LARGER SCREEN THERE OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT, I THINK WE HAVE SOME ASSETS IN HOUSE THAT WE CAN, UH, WE CAN PUT IN THERE.
THAT'S NOT MY, THAT'S NOT THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE.
I'M TRYING TO HAVE THE LOBBY, SIR, COME OUT OF THIS CONTRACT, A STANDALONE CONTRACT JUST TO FOCUS ON GETTING THE LOBBY DONE.
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY, SIR? I DON'T THINK I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, UH, THAT THAT PROCESS WOULD DELAY WORK TO GET DONE IN THE, UH, GET DONE FOR THE LOBBY.
WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK OUT FOR BID SPECIFICALLY FOR THE LOBBY, REMOVE IT FROM THE EXISTING CONTRACT, AND THEN START THAT PROCESS OVER.
UM, WE ARE READY TO GO OUT FOR BID WITHIN PROBABLY THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, UH, FOR THE EXISTING PROJECT SO THAT THE LOBBY PROBABLY WON'T BE DONE UNTIL THE FALL.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, SIR.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE THE TIMELINE YET.
ONCE WE GET THE, ONCE WE GET THE CONTRACT OUT FOR BID, WE BEGIN TO WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR, WE CAN PRIORITIZE THE LOBBY AS ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS, UH, TO BE, TO BE DONE.
UM, YEAH, THIS WILL BE COMING AT NEXT FISCAL YEAR FUNDS.
SO IT'LL BE EVEN STARTING UNTIL THE SUMMER? N NO, SIR.
UH, IT WILL BE MO THE FUNDING WILL BE TRANSFERRED FROM THE CURRENT BUDGET INTO THE 40 10 BUDGET.
SO IT'S A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT SPANS, UH, BUDGET YEARS.
SO WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW, AND THEN I'LL DROP THIS.
IS THIS, UH, POSTER BOARD ON AN EASEL? UH, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO AS THE, TO HELP PEOPLE FIND, UH, THE, THE SERVICE THEY NEED IN THE BUILDING? SO THERE, YES.
THERE'S A POSTER BOARD ON AN EASEL INSIDE THE, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO THAT EASEL IS ELECTRONIC DEVICE, UH, THAT FOLKS, IF THEY WANT TO SEE THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, THEY PUSH THE BUTTON.
THERE'S A, A LARGER SCREEN THAT COMES UP, IDENTIFIES WHERE THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE IS, GIVES THEM THEIR ROOM NUMBER.
NEXT TO THAT IS A, IS A PHONE THAT THEY CAN PICK UP.
THEY PICK UP THE PHONE, THAT PHONE TRANSFERS THEM TO A LIVE PERSON THAT CAN HELP THEM, AS WELL AS IN THE LOBBY IS THE, IS THE, UM, OLDER, UM, INFORMATION BOARD THAT HAS THE, UH, THE LITTLE WHITE LETTERS IN IT THAT HELP PEOPLE FIND OUT WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.
LAST TIME I TRIED THAT, ALL I GOT WAS A VOICEMAIL.
SO I'M JUST TELLING YOU MY DISAPPOINTMENT WITH THE WAY THIS SITUATION IS DEVELOPED.
SO, SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU USED THE PHONE SYSTEM, OUR COMMUNICATIONS FOLKS, UM, WORKED ON THE PHONE SYSTEM TO ENSURE THAT WHEN SOMEONE PICKS UP THE PHONE, IT, IT IS ANSWERED, UM, BY COUNTY STAFF.
ALRIGHT, SO WE, WE RECOGNIZE WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO DO IN CUSTOMER SERVICE.
UM, AGAIN, OUR TEAM WILL WORK TOGETHER TO, UH, FIND THOSE AREAS WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE AND THEN, UM, INITIATE PLANS FOR THOSE, UH, IDEAS TO IMPROVE CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR OUR CITIZENS.
THE NEXT, UH, STRATEGIC PLAN WE TALKED ABOUT WAS COMMUNITY AND CULTURE.
UM, THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT COUNCIL THAT YOU DISCUSSED DURING THIS, UM, COMMUNITY AND CULTURE, UH, PORTION WAS INVESTING IN THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR PASSIVE PARKS AND PROTECTION OF WILDLIFE.
YOU WILL SEE IN THE, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET AND THE INCREASE THAT SUPPORTS THAT MISSION.
UM, WE ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION, UM, THAT WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT A PLASTIC BAG ORDINANCE COMING FORWARD.
UH, MS. HOWARD THEN TALKED ABOUT KEEP BUFORT COUNTY BEAUTIFUL TEAM WORKING ON A, UM, A CONSIDERATION OF, OF THAT PLAN.
SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, TO VISITING THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK, UM, TO COUNTY STAFF TO ADDRESS.
UH, THERE WAS ALSO SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT NEEDS FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, ACTIVE PARKS AND SPORTS, UH, FIELDS.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT STAFF, UM, PROBABLY
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LOOKS EVERY DAY FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL SPORTS AND SPORTS AND RECREATIONS, UH, FIELDS AND AREAS AND, UH, IN ALL ENDS OF THE COUNTY, UH, RECREATION IS SO IMPORTANT TO OUR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN TO GET THEM OUT IN OUR, IN OUR BEAUTIFUL PARKS AND VISIT PLACES.SO, UM, IT IS, UH, IT'S A BIG TASK.
FIRST FINDING, FINDING THE DIRT THAT WE CAN PURCHASE AND THEN FINDING THE DOLLARS TO DEVELOP IT INTO, UM, INTO GREAT RECREATION.
AND ALL OF THAT COMES WITH THE COST OF CONTINUOUS MAINTENANCE.
SO ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN WE, UH, WHEN WE WORK ON THESE PROJECTS.
UH, BUT EVERY DAY I THINK WE PASS A SIGN THAT SAYS FOR SALE, AND SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY STOPS AND LOOKS AT IT AND REALLY EVALUATES WHAT IT IS.
'CAUSE IT'S JUST THAT IMPORTANT TO US.
YOU'RE, UM, I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER THE PROPERTY MR. SULLIVAN TALKED ABOUT.
REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE IN THAT ATEX MEETING? YES.
UM, YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS BETTER THAN I DO.
ONE OF THE ONES WE MIGHT CONSIDER.
IT'S NOT FOR SALE RIGHT NOW, UM, BUT I, I DO KNOW A PIECE OF PROPERTY BEHIND AND ADJACENT TO THAT ONE RECENTLY SOLD FOR A SIMILAR PROJECT.
NEXT ON OUR LIST WAS INVEST IN OUR, UH, INVEST IN OUR ECONOMY.
WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, EDUCATION AS, AS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FOR US TO CONSIDER.
UH, AND THAT IS AN INVESTING IN WORKFORCE EDUCATION AND HEALTHCARE.
UH, THOSE TWO THINGS KIND OF GO TOGETHER.
THE, SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH, UM, WITH BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL AND TCL AND, UM, UH, THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA BEAUFORT.
WE ARE IN, UH, ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL NOW, AND WORKING WITH, UM, BOTH OF OUR, UM, HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS TO, UH, FIND WAYS TO SUPPORT THEM.
UH, MS. CHRISTMAS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BONDING.
SO SOME OF THE, THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD DURING THE STRATEGIC PLANNING WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT BONDS TO HELP SUPPORT THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
SO SHE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT BRIEFLY.
UM, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, THIS, UM, THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT HERE WERE FOCUSED ON INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UM, A TRANSPORTATION REFERENDUM THAT SHOULD COME FORWARD FOR THIRD READING SOON.
AND THAT WILL BE A, UH, A BIG STEP FORWARD, UH, TOWARDS ACHIEVING THOSE GOALS IF THAT PASSES BY THE PUBLIC IN NOVEMBER.
UH, WE ALSO WILL CONTINUE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
UM, JOHN O'TOOLE AND HIS TEAM ARE ALWAYS SEEKING TO CREATE NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND, AND ATTRACT CREATIVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE WELL SUITED FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY.
AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF WHAT THEY DO.
HE'S JUST NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING TO BRING HERE, BUT THOSE BUSINESSES AND CREATIVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE SUITED FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, ALSO YOU ASK THAT, UM, JOHN AND HIS TEAM, UM, PROVIDE QUARTERLY UPDATES FOR COUNTY COUNCIL.
UH, SO WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS, UH, WITH JOHN, AND HE IS ABSOLUTELY WILLING TO DO THAT AND LOOKS FORWARD TO ADDRESSING COUNCIL ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, UM, WITH THE, UH, THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING ON OUR BEHALF.
LASTLY, WE MOVED ON TO, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND HEALTH.
UH, HEALTH WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED, UH, QUITE A BIT.
AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CONSOLIDATED EMERGENCY SERVICES.
UM, STAFF'S GOAL FOR 2025, UH, CONSIDERING CONSOLIDATION OF EMERGENCY SERVICES IS TO BUILD A TEAM OF LOCAL EMERGENCY RESPONSE PROFESSIONALS.
UM, I'M GONNA ASK THIS TEAM TO ASSESS, TO, TO ASSESS THE SITUATION, TO CREATE A TEAM OF STAKEHOLDERS, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, LOCAL OFFICIALS, EMERGENCY RESPONDERS, UM, WITH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO START WITH.
AND THE FIRST QUESTION IS, ANSWER THE WHY.
AND THAT WOULD BE, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? ARE WE, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE? WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS OF CONSOLIDATION? WHAT ARE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THAT? THIS IS REALLY THE WAY TO, TO START THE CONVERSATION.
UM, AND THEN SECOND ANSWER, THE HOW.
IF WE DECIDE THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT, THEN HOW DO WE MAKE THIS HAPPEN? AND FINALLY, THE AN THE QUESTION IS WHEN, UH, THIS IS A, A LARGE PROJECT, A HUGE UNDERTAKING, AND TIMING IS GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT.
SO THAT ONE OF MY GOALS FOR 2025 IS TO PUT TOGETHER THIS, THIS TEAM OF, UH, OUR LOCAL PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE WELL QUALIFIED AND WELL VERSED IN THE NEEDS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY, UH,
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TO DO THAT WORK.WE DISCUSSED BRIEFLY SOME FUNDING FOR OUR, UH, NORTH OF ABROAD AND SOUTH OF ABROAD, UH, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS TEAM.
SO WE HAVE FOLDED A LITTLE, UH, SOME FUNDS FOR THEM INTO, UM, OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
UH, RIGHT NOW, THOSE, BOTH OF THOSE TEAMS, UM, OPERATE OUT OF, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICES, BUILDINGS, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENTS, AND EMS SUPPORTED.
UH, AND THEIR FUNDING MOSTLY COMES FROM A, UM, STATE LEPC PROGRAM.
UH, SO BEAUFORT COUNTY IS GOING TO INVEST SOME FUNDS THERE.
JOHN, I'M SORRY TO, UH, INTERRUPT.
UH, SOMEBODY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE BEAUFORT WATER, UH, SEARCH AND RESCUE YES, SIR.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF FUNDING.
THEY HAVE TO RAISE THEIR OWN FUNDS.
SO I, I'VE TALKED WITH THE, UH, UH, I GUESS HE'S THEIR CAPTAIN.
UH, WE'VE LOOKED AT THEIR REQUESTS AND THEIR BUDGETS, AND WE'LL, WE'LL BE SUPPORTING, UH, THEIR GROUP AS WELL.
IS THAT A WAY WE CAN, WE CAN START WORKING IT INTO OUR, TO OUR BUDGET? OH, YES, SIR.
I KNOW THEY PROVIDE A GREAT SERVICE AND YES, SIR.
UM, AND LASTLY, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, UH, IN HEALTH AND SAFETY, UM, A PEER TO PRO PEER-TO-PEER PROGRAMS FOR INMATES, UH, TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF OUR, UM, POPULATION THAT, UM, GO IN AND OUT OF OUR DETENTION CENTER.
SO WORKING, WORKING WITH, UM, SOME COUNSELING PROGRAMS AND PEER-TO-PEER PROGRAMS TO HELP REDUCE THE NUMBER OF, UM, OF INMATES WHO COME IN AND OUT OF OUR DETENTION CENTER.
YOU HEARD FROM, UH, COLONEL GRANT, UM, ON MONDAY ABOUT PROGRAMS THEY'RE WORKING ON.
AND I THINK WE'RE WORKING IN THE, IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ALREADY, AND THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, UH, INCREASE, UM, AND INVEST IN ADDITIONAL COUNSELING TO HELP WITH THAT PROGRAM.
UH, WE HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR SECOND CHANCES COURT, UM, AND ALSO THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION FOR US TO CONSIDER SOME OPTIONS FOR DAY PROGRAMS FOR UNHOUSED RESIDENTS.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON.
I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAIL TO SHARE WITH YOU, BUT I WANTED TO YOU TO KNOW THAT WE CAPTURED THOSE THINGS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THAT.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS AND WHERE WE'RE GOING? ANY, UH, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, I KNOW PREVIOUSLY I'D ASKED THAT WE ARE GO BACK AND HAVE A REVIEW OF OUR ORDINANCES.
IS THAT, IS THAT CONTINUING? ONGOING? OKAY.
PAULA, ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I DON'T.
I THINK YOU COVERED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.
MARK, ANY QUESTIONS? UM, TAB OR, WELL, LET'S START WITH TAB.
ANY QUESTIONS TAB? NO, I'VE BEEN, UH, WRITING IT ALL DOWN AS HE GOES.
I THINK HE CAPTURED WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
I APPRECIATE, DID HE MENTION, UM, THE PLASTIC BAG ORDINANCE? THAT'S BEEN A PRIORITY FOR ME TO GET THAT REVISED.
AND, UM, AND I THINK IT IS FOR PAULA TOO, WITH THE KEEP BE BEAUTIFUL COMMITTEE.
LARRY, YOU'RE, UH, STILL ON MUTE? NOPE, NOTHING FURTHER.
WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, UM, THAT OPENING DAY, I CAME UP WITH 11 DIFFERENT TOPICS ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND I, AS YOU WERE TALKING, I CHECKED THEM OFF.
THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE THAT WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED ON, BUT WE ACTUALLY DID THAT AS PART OF SOME OF THE, UH, TOPICS THAT WE APPROVED.
UH, ONE WAS TRASH AND RECYCLING.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE NOT TOUCHED ON, BUT IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, IS OUR ENVIRONMENT.
CERTAINLY, WE SHOWED THAT WITH GREEN SPACE AS PART OF THE REFERENDUM THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE IN NOVEMBER, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE IT AS A GREEN BELT, BECAUSE GREEN SPACE GOES AWAY.
GREEN BELT WILL TAKE ITS PLACE.
AND SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO PROTECT PROPERTIES.
TWO OTHER THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE ARE OUR UTILITIES.
WE HEARD YESTERDAY FROM BUFORT, JASPER WATER AND SEWER IN A MEETING THAT I HAD.
AND WE HELD HEARD FROM, UH, DOMINION ENERGY AND PALMETTO ELECTRIC ABOUT THEIR PLANS FOR THE FUTURE AND HOW DESPERATE IT IS NEEDED TO EXPAND BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THE NEXT 20 AND
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30 YEARS.AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, IS OUR MILITARY.
THEY ARE A UNIQUE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PART AND PARCEL OF BEAUFORT COUNTY.
SO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE SAID ARE ALREADY HERE.
AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
THINK WE HAVE A GOOD, UH, PROCESS THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THIS BUDGET THIS YEAR.
NEXT, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, ERIC LARSON.
UH, THEY TOLD ME I HAD THREE HOURS, RIGHT? YES.
UH, AS THEY'RE PULLING UP OUR PRESENTATION, UH, JUST, UH, WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AGAIN.
I'M THE CAPITAL PROJECTS DIRECTOR.
UH, SO SUPERVISED FACILITIES MANAGEMENT, UH, WITH OUR, UH, IN, IN TANDEM WITH OUR FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, MARK ROSENAU.
CAROLYN WALLACE IS OUR CIP MANAGER.
SHE'S SITTING OVER MY SHOULDER AND SHE AND I, UH, PUT THIS PRESENTATION.
MOST OF THE DATA IN THIS PRESENTATION'S, HERS, I'LL TAKE CREDIT FOR IT, BUT, UH, SHE DID ALL THE HARD WORK, AND SHE'S HERE WITH HER COMPUTER READY TO GO.
IF YOU START TO ASK ME TOUGH QUESTIONS, I CAN PULL HER UP TO THE PODIUM.
UM, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS I WANT TO GO THROUGH THE CAPITAL PROJECT PLANNING PROCESS AND HOW WE COME UP WITH OUR LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE RECOMMEND FOR FUNDING.
I'LL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS BRIEFLY WITH YOU.
UH, TALK ABOUT THE CATEGORIES OF PROJECTS THEY KINDA GET PUT IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OR DIFFERENT SILOS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND THEN, UM, ALL THESE SLIDES THAT I HAVE, UH, THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY, HAVE ALL THE PROJECTS LISTED BY TITLE.
AND AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS, WHEN WE GET CLOSE TO A RECOMMENDED BUDGET, AND WE, AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE'LL PUBLISH THE CIP BOOK, WHICH WILL HAVE ALL THESE PROJECTS LISTED, WHICH ONES GOT FUNDED, WHICH ONES DIDN'T.
AND THEN THERE'S A, THERE'S A DATA SHEET FOR EVERY SINGLE PROJECT.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT GOING FORWARD THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT YOU CAN REFER BACK TO THAT HAS A DESCRIPTION OF THESE PROJECTS IN DETAIL, THEIR DOLLAR AMOUNTS, UH, ACCOUNT NUMBERS THAT THEY'RE COMING OUT OF, THE DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY, SO TO SPEAK.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT TOWARDS THE END.
BUT TODAY YOU'LL HAVE THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
IT JUST HAS A LIST OF THE PROJECTS AND A SUMMARY OF THEIR DOLLARS.
SO AGAIN, EACH YEAR WE COLLECT A ASSEMBLE, PRIORITIZE, AND SELECT CAPITAL PROJECTS.
UH, FOR, UH, THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE TYPICALLY RECEIVE FAR MORE REQUESTS THAN WE HAVE REALISTIC BUDGETING FOR.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A WELL THOUGHT OUT PROCESS IN HOW WE SELECT THOSE.
UH, WE WANT TO CREATE A LOGICAL, DEFENSIBLE PROGRESS, UH, PROCESS, UH, THAT WE SCORE AND RANK AND PRIORITIZE THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE MEETING THE GOALS OF THE COUNTY, MEETING THE STRATEGIC GOALS AS, AS JOHN WAS JUST PRESENTING.
UM, SO THAT WE CAN MAXIMIZE THE WHAT NUMBER, WHAT DOLLARS WE DO HAVE TO GET THE HIGHEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY.
SO I'LL GO THROUGH, UH, THAT PROCESS QUICKLY.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, WE RECEIVE, WE REQUEST AND RECEIVE THESE BUDGET REQUESTS ALL THE WAY BACK IN DECEMBER.
UH, SO TOWARDS THE END OF DECEMBER, FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS OF JANUARY, WE ASSEMBLED ALL THESE REQUESTS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS.
UH, WE QUICKLY, UH, CONSOLIDATED THEM INTO A SUMMARY SHEET, UH, AND TRIED TO COME UP AND, AND COME UP WITH THE TOTAL ASK DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
AND THEN WE MEET WITH THE EXECUTIVE TEAM, AND THE EXECUTIVE TEAM TOWARDS THE END OF JANUARY LOOKS AT THESE PROJECTS AND PUT THEIR OWN LENS ON IT, THEIR OWN PRIORITIES AND CRITERIA THAT THEY WANT TO RANK PROJECTS ON.
AND THEN WE TAKE THAT DATA, WHICH HAPPENED TOWARDS THE END OF JANUARY, AND THEN WE MOVE IT INTO, UM, COMING UP WITH A BUDGET SUBMITTAL THAT IS, UH, PHYSICALLY CONSTRAINED INTO THE POINT WHERE WE'VE MATCHED PROJECTED REVENUES WITH PROJECT DOLLARS TO COME UP WITH A LIST OF RANKED AND UNRANKED AND FUNDED UNFUNDED REQUESTS.
I KIND OF JUMPED OUTTA ORDER HERE.
UH, SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE PROGRAM SO THAT, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE SWITCHING TO A DIFFERENT SOFTWARE FINANCES PURCHASED TO SOFTWARE THAT WILL BE USED FOR BUDGETING.
THIS YEAR WE DID IT THE OLD FASHIONED WAY WITH AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET, UH, WHICH WAS VERY EFFECTIVE.
UH, AND, AND, BUT IT IS A LITTLE CUMBERSOME BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT STUFF'S NOT AUTOMATED.
SO NEXT YEAR YOU'LL SEE SOME CHANGES WITH OUR SOFTWARE PROCESS.
AND THEN ON THE ACCOUNTING SIDE, UH, FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS, HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UH, IMPROVING THE WAY THAT WE'LL BE ACCOUNTING FOR PROJECTS.
UH, WE HAVE THE MULTI-YEAR PROJECT ACCOUNT CODES THAT JOHN REFERENCED A SECOND AGO THAT ALLOW PROJECTS TO MOVE FROM YEAR TO YEAR WITHOUT THE FEAR OF LOSING FUNDING OR MISPLACING THE FUNDING AS WE MOVE FROM, UH, THE TRANSITION.
AND THEN WE'RE USING PROJECT ACCOUNTING, WHICH IS ANOTHER LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WILL ALLOW US TO EXTRACT INFORMATION ON THE FINANCES OF OUR PROJECTS WITHIN THE MUNIS, UH, FINANCIAL SOFTWARE AND HELP US TRACK OUR PROJECTS, UH, YEAR AFTER YEAR,
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QUICKLY ON THE, UH, THE RANKING AND, AND AND SELECTION CRITERIA.SO THE FIRST LENS THAT WE PUT ON HERE IS WHETHER OR NOT THE PROJECT'S FULLY, PARTIALLY OR UNFUNDED.
UH, WE GET PRIORITY TO PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ALREADY DOWN THE PATH.
WE'VE STARTED THE PROJECT, WE'VE INVESTED IN THE PROJECT, LET'S CONTINUE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD.
AND THEN WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT HAVE SOME MONEY, BUT NOT ALL THE MONEY THEY NEED.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE NEWER REQUESTS OR THE PROJECTS THAT GET CARRIED FORWARD THAT DON'T HAVE FUNDING AT ALL.
THEN WE LOOK AT THAT PLANNING DESIGN CONSTRUCTION PHASE, A PROJECT THAT'S IN CONSTRUCTION AND NEEDS ADDITIONAL FUNDING'S GOING TO GET PRIORITY OVER A PROJECT THAT'S IN PLANNING OR DESIGN, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE WANTING TO PUSH THAT PROJECT FORWARD AND COMPLETE IT, NOT LET IT LANGUISH AND, AND, AND NOT GET FINISHED.
THE NEXT LENS GETS INTO THOSE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES.
THOSE, THOSE STRATEGIC PLANNING ISSUES.
IS THIS RE RESTORATION OF INFRASTRUCTURE? IS IT FOR LIFE AND HEALTH SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC OR OUR STAFF? ARE WE EXPANDING SERVICES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? YOU GET THE IDEA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT A LENS ON THESE PROJECTS AND RANK THEM AND SCORE THEM SO THAT PROJECTS THAT ARE MEETING OUR GOALS AND MEETING OUR, OUR OBJECTIVES ARE, ARE, UH, ARE ARE GETTING HIGHER PRIORITY.
AND THEN THE LAST BULLET THAT'S SOMEWHAT COVERED ON THE SCREEN HERE, BUT YOU'VE GOT IT IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, UH, THE, THE LITTLE WINDOWS ARE COVERING UP.
THE EXECUTIVE TEAM LOOKED AT ESSENTIAL SERVICES.
UM, MANDATED NEEDS, IS THIS PROJECT RELATED TO A MANDATED REQUIREMENT BY THE STATE, FEDERAL, OR LOCAL LAW? WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE, ARE REQUIRED TO GET CERTAIN THINGS DONE.
THOSE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO BE FUNDED SO THAT WE DON'T FALL OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
UH, PUBLIC FACING PROJECTS AT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY CENTERS.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE FRONT LOBBY HERE A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
THOSE KIND OF PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA IMPACT THE COMMUNITY AND IMPACT THE PUBLIC AS THEY INTERACT WITH THE COUNTY ARE GETTING, UH, PRIORITY AS WELL, AS WELL AS FCI FACILITY NEEDS AS, AS MUNDANE AND UNGLORIOUS AND, AND UNEXCITING.
IT MIGHT BE HAVING FUNCTIONAL H-H-V-A-C SYSTEMS, UH, HAVING, UH, CARPET THAT DOESN'T LOOK WORN.
AND STAINED WALLS THAT ARE DIRTY AND STAINED ROOFS THAT ARE LEAKING.
THOSE ARE PRIORITIES THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN TO KEEP OUR FACILITIES UP AND RUNNING, UH, NOT ONLY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT THE PUBLIC.
UH, THOSE GET ATTENTION AND THAT ALL GETS US TO THE FINISH LINE OF WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY WITH A LIST OF CAPITAL PROJECTS.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE? UH, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN OF THE OPINION THAT A CAPITAL PROJECT IS SOMETHING YOU DON'T HAVE, BUT IT'S NEW.
SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WHAT AM I MISSING? TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, IT IS MAINTENANCE, UH, SMALL.
WE DO HAVE AN OPERATING BUDGET FOR MAINTENANCE, ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.
A PROJECT THAT WOULD FALL INTO THE CATEGORY OF CAPITAL WOULD BE A COMPLETE RE REPLACEMENT OR RESTORATION OF A SYSTEM OR A, OR A FACILITY.
SO THAT WE BASICALLY RESTORE ITS LIFE FOR THE NEXT 10, 20 YEARS.
UM, WHEN WE DO THE REMODEL OF THIS WHOLE ENTIRE CORRIDOR, THIS HALLWAY HERE, INCLUDING THIS SPACE THAT'S CAPITAL, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ROUTINE.
WE'RE NOT JUST FRESHENING THE PAINT, WE'RE ACTUALLY GUTTING IT AND REBUILDING REPLACEMENT OF HVAC SYSTEMS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS WOULD BE CONSIDERED CAPITAL.
DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? YEAH.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, IN PARTICULAR, I'LL JUST TELL YOU THE, THE REST POINT BOAT LAUNCH.
I KNOW WE DON'T OWN THAT, BUT HOW DOES THE PROCESS WORK IF THERE'S EMERGENCY FUNDING OR, OR A PROJECT THAT COMES UP MID BUDGET THAT NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED? WHAT'S THAT PROCESS LIKE? SO IT COULD HAPPEN ONE OR TWO WAYS.
UH, EACH DEPARTMENT AND, AND BOAT LANDINGS FALL UNDER PUBLIC WORKS.
THEY'LL HAVE AN OPERATING BUDGET FOR THEIR BOAT LANDINGS AND THEIR, THEIR BUDGETING CONTINGENCY INTO THAT.
AND FOR THOSE UNFORESEENS, UH, WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ON THESE SLIDES TODAY, AND IT IS BUILT INTO THE BUDGET PROPOSAL, THERE IS A CONTINGENCY WITHIN CAPITAL AS WELL, BECAUSE WE KNOW, WE INEVITABLY, WE KNOW SOMETHING BIG'S GONNA POP UP IN OCTOBER AND IT'S LIKE, OH, WE DIDN'T PLAN FOR THAT.
WELL, WE HAVE A SMALL, UH, UH, AMOUNT IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND CONSTRUCTION MONEY WHERE WE CAN PULL FROM TO FUND A, A CAPITAL NEED PROJECT THAT COMES UP THAT WASN'T ENVISIONED BACK IN DECEMBER.
AND, YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE IN MARCH, AND THEN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW SOMETHING POPS UP.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY YEAH, GO AHEAD, LARRY.
HEY ERIC, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THIS.
I, UH, I APPRECIATE THE, YOUR ARTICULATE PRESENTATION AND THE WAY YOU ARE PRIORITIZING THINGS NEED TO BE BROKEN OUT FOR, UH, FOR, UH, SPECIAL ATTENTION.
UM, THE SUMMARY YOU'VE PROVIDED IS, UH, VERY COMPLETE, VERY CLEAR, AND, UH, CONGRATULATE
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YOU ON THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.SO WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE WEEDS.
UH, I'M GOING TO, I'M NOT GONNA READ THESE SLIDES, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 'EM FOR LATER.
UH, BUT I WANTED TO LIST OUT ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAD GOING ON AND GIVE YOU A STATUS ON THOSE AND GET INTO THE DOLLARS.
UH, SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE MAGNITUDE.
UH, THIS IS THE FY 24 PLAN, THE STATUS ON THOSE PROJECTS.
UH, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PROJECT IN FY 24 THAT HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED AT THIS POINT.
UH, IT IS EITHER IN CONCEPT DESIGN, FULL DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, OR COMPLETED, OR WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF JUNE.
AND SO HERE'S A LIST OF THOSE PROJECTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, AS, AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT, I'M PROUD TO TALK TO, TO SAY OUR TEAM IS JUST KILLING IT.
WE ARE, YOU KNOW, FULL THROTTLE, UH, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF WORK DONE.
AND THIS IS A LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED IN THE YEAR OR HAVE WE'LL HAVE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
UH, AND IT'S AN EXTENSIVE LIST.
UH, THIS, I'M SORRY, ERIC, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, WHAT, WHAT, UH, UH, JUST A QUICK SUMMARY.
WHAT WAS THE ARTHUR HORN BUILDING PHASE TWO, WHAT DID THAT CONSIST OF? ARTHUR HORN BUILDING.
PHASE TWO IS THE DEMOLITION OF THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING.
THAT'S STILL, THAT'S STILL STANDING.
AND THEN CONSTRUCTION OF A PARKING LOT THAT SERVES THE NEW ARTHUR HORN BUILDING, WHICH IN, IN THAT SAME FOOTPRINT.
WE HAVE THAT, UH, CONTRACTED FOR DEMOLITION.
WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A NEED TO REBID THE PARKING LOT, UH, ONCE THE DEMO IS DONE.
UH, RIGHT NOW THE DELAY IS THE REMOVAL OF THE SERVER.
UH, AND, AND WHEN THE SERVER IS, IS FINALLY REMOVED AND TAKEN OFFLINE, WE CAN DECOMMISSION THE AIR CONDITIONING, WE CAN DO THE HAZARDOUS MITIGATION THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE ASBESTOS IN THE BUILDING.
WE CAN TEAR IT DOWN AND MOVE FORWARD.
WE DO YOU, I'M KNOCKING ON WOOD.
DO I HAVE A QUESTION? UM, THAT WE GET THAT I HAVE A QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.
DO YOU HAVE A DATE ANTICIPATED FOR THAT? AND, UM, WHAT'S THE WHY? I THOUGHT, IS THAT SERVER MOVING INTO THE NEW BUILDING OR IS IT, OR IS IT GONNA BE, UM, EXCESS ANSWER THERE? YEAH, I, JOHN MAY WANT TO GET INTO IT.
THE SERVER IS IN THE NEW BUILDING.
IT, IT'S THE FIBER CONNECTIONS AND THAT OLD SERVER IS STILL FEEDING CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS DUE TO THE FIBER CONNECTIONS BY HARRAY.
AND THOSE ARE ALL SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED BY APRIL.
AND THEN AS SOON AS THAT LAST CONNECTION IS DISCONNECTED FROM THE SERVER, UH, THE IT DEPARTMENT WILL DECOMMISSION IT AND REMOVE IT.
AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE ON, PATRICK.
AND SO WHAT'S THE ANTICIPATED DATE OF FULL DEMOLITION? UH, WE CAN HAVE IT DEMOLITION, UH, EXCUSE DEMOLITION.
WE CAN HAVE IT DEMOLISHED IN 30 DAYS.
ONCE WE GET THE, THE SERVER OUT, WE, AGAIN, WE ALREADY HAVE THE BID, WE JUST NEED TO DO THE CONTRACT.
UH, THE THRESHOLD OF THE COST IS SUCH THAT IT CAN BE HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY.
UH, AND THEN, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL START BIDDING THE PARKING LOT IMMEDIATELY.
IT'S ABOUT A 75 DAY PROCESS TO PUT IN UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THAT CONSTRUCTION SHOULD TAKE 60, 90 DAYS.
SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEMOLISH BEFORE, UH, JUNE.
UH, WELL, WE SHOULD BE ABLE DEMOLISHED AND READY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION ON THE PARKING LOT BY MAY OR JUNE.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT PARKING LOT DONE BY EARLY FALL.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL CONTINGENT ON THAT APRIL DATE.
AND PATRICK'S FIXING TO UPDATE YOU ON THAT.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S, IT'S NOT A SERVER THAT'S IN THE BUILDING.
THERE'S SOME, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE BUILDING'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
THERE'S SOME OLD CABLES THAT GO INTO THE BUILDING AND KIND OF TURN AROUND AND GO RIGHT BACK OUT AND FEED SOME OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FUNCTIONS, FEED SOME COUNTY FUNCTIONS.
AND SO, UM, WE HAVE WORKED WITH OUR, THE IT AT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TO, UH, HAVE THAT, THAT CABLE SCHEDULED TO BE MOVED.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, UH, FIRST, FIRST, UH, OF APRIL.
AND THEN ONCE THAT GETS DONE, WE'LL MEET WITH ALL THE, THE ELECTED IT TEAMS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOOD TO GO AND THAT EVERYTHING IS, IS CLEAN OUTTA THAT BUILDING BEFORE WE DESTROY IT.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE A CABLE THAT RUNS INTO THE BUILDING AND KIND OF JUST TURNS AROUND AND GOES RIGHT BACK OUT.
UM, IT'S BEEN THERE 20 YEARS AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON TO GET RE REMOVED.
SO, UH, THE VENDOR'S BEEN CONTRACTED FOR THAT.
SO IT SHOULD HOPEFULLY HAPPEN, LIKE I SAID, UH, FIRST OF, UH, APRIL.
UM, AND, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, ON THIS LIST, UM, THE AJOY BEACH RENOURISHMENT.
AND FOR ANYONE WATCHING, UM, OBVIOUSLY, UH, I WANNA COMMEND Y'ALL FOR GETTING THE LANDING DONE IN A QUICK PERIOD OF TIME, ESPECIALLY BEFORE SUMMERTIME COMES ALONG.
IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY, IF NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLETED RIGHT NOW.
AND PART OF THAT WAS PART OF THE, UH, ALL JOY BEACH REN NOURISHMENT, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
THAT WAS PART OF THAT, THAT, THAT, UM, GROUP.
SO WE'RE STILL PUSHING THAT, TRYING TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
BUT WE'RE IN A A, A STANDOFF WITH OCRM AT THIS POINT.
BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNEW THAT THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED.
BUT AGAIN, THE LANDING HAS CONTRACT, DID A GREAT JOB.
YOU GUYS BROUGHT 'EM IN, THEY'RE IN, IN AND OUT QUICK.
AND I THINK, UM, EVERYONE IS, IS
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EVERYONE WISHES WAS BIGGER, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS THE CASE.BUT AGAIN, IT IT, IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD JOB.
WELL, KUDOS GOES TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ON THAT ONE.
UH, THE RENOURISHMENT, THE REASON IT'S IN THE COMPLETED CATEGORY.
AND, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS HAD THE, HAD THE DESIGN PROJECT FOR THE RENOURISHMENT AND WE BASIC, THE BASE, THE PROJECT BASICALLY ENDED WHEN DHE SAYS, NO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THE STATUS OF THAT PROJECT, BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THAT COMPLETED CATEGORY.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, PROJECT WAS STARTED, INITIATED, CAME TO A LOGICAL CONCLUSION, AND THAT FUNDING WAS THEN REALLOCATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
I HAVE SOME, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE AJOY BEACH RENOURISHMENT.
SO IT, WHAT'S THERE IS GONNA BE THERE.
I MEAN, THERE WAS MONEY SET ASIDE AND I AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH THE LAND, THE, THE BOAT DOCK COSTS, BUT WE ALLOCATED MONEY THROUGH AT TAX FOR THE NOURISHMENT AND THE LANDING.
SO THERE STILL SHOULD BE EXTRA MONEY IN THE AAX FOR THAT AMOUNT.
I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE ALLOCATED ANY PLACE ELSE.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH IS LEFT AFTER WE'VE DONE THE DOCK.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN FIND OUT.
BECAUSE CAROLYN SMITH WAS TALKING ABOUT THEY'RE STILL YEAH, THEY'RE STILL PUSHING TO HAVE THAT DONE DOWN THERE.
AND ONE FINAL THING ON BEHALF OF MS. TABER NECK, WHO ISN'T HERE IN PERSON AND ALWAYS SAYS, WELL WHAT DOES THAT MEAN,
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS AND WHERE THAT IS? WELL, MY SLIDE HAS A LOT OF DATA, SO I USE ACRONYMS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
BUFORT INDUSTRIAL VILLAGE IS A SERIES OF BUILDINGS THAT THE COUNTY OWNS AND HOUSES HUMAN RESOURCES, FINANCE, OH, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
IT'S LOCATED OFF OF BURTON HILL ROAD.
UH, IT'S CLOSE TO VOTERS REGISTRATION.
UM, IF IN IN RECORDS MANAGEMENT IS BIV FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX, I FORGET, WE, WE GOT SO MANY NUMBERS.
UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT BIV IS MY APOLOGIES.
UH, NO, NO, IT'S, IT'S OUR, IT'S OUR OFFICE COMPLEX THAT WE HAVE.
I'M JUST PLAYING TAB YES, SIR.
BECAUSE SHE WOULD'VE DONE THAT IF SHE WAS HERE IN PERSON.
AND I ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT IT WAS.
BUT YOU ARE RIGHT JOE, THANK YOU FOR THE PUBLIC THAT'S WATCHING.
AND JOE, I HAVE ONE QUESTION AS WELL.
UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED WITH THE ARTHUR HORN BUILDING DECOMMISSIONING THE, THE HVAC UHHUH
UH, IT, IT IS A TEMPORARY MEASURE AND THEN AT, AT THAT POINT, IT PROBABLY WILL BE DISC DECOMMISSIONED.
UH, WE HAVE A PROJECT, UH, TO DO THE REPLACEMENT OF THE CHILLER AT THE COURTHOUSE.
AND THE LEAD TIME ON A, ON THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS ALMOST TWO YEARS.
UH, SO THE CURRENT CHILLER THAT'S ON THE OLD ARTHUR HORN BUILDING, WHICH IS FUNCTIONING TO CONDITION THAT SPACE FOR THE, THE CABLES AND SWITCHGEAR, UH, THAT, THAT PATRICK WAS REFERENCING.
WHEN THAT'S DECOMMISSIONED, IT WILL BE TAKEN ACROSS THE PARKING LOT AND USED AS A TEMPORARY TO REPLACE THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY FAILED.
WE'RE RENTING A UNIT NOW, UH, TO, TO OPERATE THE CHILLER SYSTEM FOR THE COURTHOUSE NOW.
SO WE DROP THE RENTAL CONTRACT, WE REMOVE THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, WE REUSE THE ONE WE HAVE.
IT BECOMES A SECOND STOP GAPP MEASURE UNTIL THE NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT'S IN NEXT YEAR.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE UTILIZING WHAT WE HAD.
IF, IF WE'RE ABLE TO RIGHT AT THAT POINT, IT'S AT IT'S END THE USEFUL LIFE AND IT'S GONNA BE WORTH MORE AS A CHUNK OF METAL.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, CONTINUE ON.
THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE 2025 CIP PLAN.
UH, I WILL HIGHLIGHT, JUST TO NAVIGATE YOU THROUGH THIS.
THE 212 PROJECTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED FOR FY 5 25 CONSIDERATION ARE LISTED HERE.
AND THEY FALL INTO THREE CATEGORIES.
SOME ARE FULLY FUNDED, AGAIN, PARTIALLY FUNDED, AND THEN UNRANKED PROJECTS, WHICH WE CALL UNRANKED SLASH UNFUNDED PROJECTS.
AND THEN WE HAVE A, A WHOLE SERIES OF PROJECTS THAT AREN'T SEEKING CIP FUNDING 'CAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FUNDING OR THEY'RE SEEKING SPECIAL FUNDING.
THEY WON'T OCCUR UNLESS THEY GET THEIR SPECIAL FUNDING.
A GRANT, A A BOND ISSUE, A ONE PENNY SALES TAX, AS YOU'LL SEE HERE IN THE DATA HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
UH, SO THE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE 2025 RECOMMENDATION, THE 212 PROJECTS, THERE'S BEEN 44 MILLION SPENT ON THEM PRIOR TO THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WITH ANOTHER 106 ALLOCATED FOR THIS YEAR.
SO THERE'S ALREADY A LARGE INVESTMENT IN, IN THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE, ARE BEING SUBMITTED FOR 25.
THEN THERE IS ADDITIONAL ASK OF SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THESE PROJECTS, THEY, THEY TEND TO BE FULLY, WE CALL 'EM FULLY FUNDED AND I PUT THOSE IN AIR QUOTES, BUT THEY STILL NEED MORE MONEY GOING FORWARD.
SO YOU SEE THAT ASK IN 25 AND THEN YOU START TO SEE ALL THE NEWER PROJECTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE BEEN REQUESTED OR THEY'VE BEEN REQUESTED IN THE PAST AND NEVER RECEIVED FUNDING.
SO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BEING REQUESTED A SECOND TIME, THIRD TIME, ET CETERA.
AND YOU SEE THAT ASK OF BEING 236 MILLION
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THIS YEAR.UH, THAT CONTINUES ON 'CAUSE WE ARE PLANNING FOR TWO YEARS NOW.
WE'RE, WE'RE SUBMITTING AND DOING A TWO YEAR PLAN.
THE NEEDS KEEP GROWING AND AS YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN A SECOND, 236, 255 IS REALLY A NOT REALISTIC NUMBER, BUT IT IS OUR NEEDS.
IT IS THE NEEDS THAT ARE BEING IDENTIFIED BY DEPARTMENT HEADS.
UH, BUT IT FAR EXCEEDS ANY, UH, LOGICAL AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE COULD PROJECT.
UH, DIGGING INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UH, IT SHOWS THE FULLY FUNDED PROJECTS AND THE DEPARTMENTS AND THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT 55 MILLION OF ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT'S NEEDED FOR THESE PROJECTS THAT WERE DEEMED FULLY FUNDED.
AND AGAIN, I USE AIR QUOTES, THE REASON THEY MIGHT BE ASKING FOR MONEY, MORE MONEY, BUT DEEMED FULLY FUNDED IS THAT AS THEY GET INTO DESIGN, THE BUDGET INCREASES, THEY GET INTO CONSTRUCTION, THE BUDGET INCREASES, UH, THE COST OF SERVICES KEEPS GOING UP, THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT CHANGES.
ANY NUMBER OF REASONS ARE CAUSING THESE PROJECTS TO NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
AND SO, AGAIN, AS WAS DISCUSSED A FEW MINUTES AGO, WE'RE KIND OF GIVING THESE SOME OF THE HIGHER PRIORITIES BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THESE PROJECTS CONTINUE TO FINISH, UH, ALL THE TIME.
MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHY THE PRICES ARE GOING UP AND CAN DEFEND WHY THE PROJECTS ARE GOING, THE PRICES ARE GOING UP.
SO YOU SEE THE 55 MILLION, UH, THE ENGINEERING, THE PURPLE P PI WEDGE THAT'S TRANSPORTATION RELATED.
YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS SKEWED ON ALMOST EVERY SLIDE.
THE BIG, BIG CHUNK IS TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS.
THESE PROJECTS, AS YOU'VE HEARD JARED TALK ABOUT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.
YOU KNOW, AND THEY JUST, THEY JUST DWARF ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS COMBINED.
THE PIE STARTS TO LITTLE LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE NORMAL, UH, UH, BUT YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THAT TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND YOU AGAIN, YOU SEE SEVERAL PROJECTS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S THAT IT'S THAT PROPOSED ONE PEN, 1 CENT THAT THEY NEED TO PUSH A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS FORWARD.
DID I ASK THE QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.
UM, ON THE PASSIVE PARKS AT 2 MILLION IS HOW MUCH OF THAT IS, UM, UNFUNDED THAT THEY NEED? OR IS THAT, AS YOU KNOW, IN THE BOND REFERENDUMS, WE HAD MONEY SET ASIDE FOR PASSIVE PARK PROJECTS.
THESE, THESE ARE REQUESTS NOW THIS IS, UH, REQUEST FOR DOLLARS, NOT NECESSARILY CIP MONEY, BUT THEY'VE GOT 2 MILLION HERE.
AND THIS IS ADDITIONAL MONIES FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ONGOING AND THEN SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION MONEY FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE PLANNED AND DESIGNED AND READY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION.
I'M NOT SURE THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
I'M NOT SURE THAT 2 MILLION IS NOT FUNDED THROUGH THE BOND REFERENDUM FOR PASSIVE PARK.
AND IF YOU NEED TO GET BACK TO ME, THAT'S FINE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS MONEY SITTING THERE, UM, THROUGH THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS BOND REFERENDUM FOR PASSIVE PARKS CONSTRUCTION.
STEPHANIE JUST WHISPERED MY EAR AND SAID THAT THAT IS, THAT 2 MILLION IS THE BOND REFERENDUM MONEY.
SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL MONEY NEEDED.
OKAY, SO LET'S, LET'S START OVER ON PASSIVE PARKS.
SO WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF PARKS THAT ARE PROPOSED.
UM, ONE, THERE'S A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO DO SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AT FORT AT FORT FREMONT.
FORT FREMONT, THAT'S THE FOR YEAH, THE HARD, THE UM, THE GUARDRAILS.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE VERY DANGEROUS.
SO THE BOND MONEY, AND I'M ASSUMING COUNCIL MEMBER HOWARD, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE $5 MILLION, THAT WAS THE PERCENTAGE THAT CAME OUT OF RURAL AND CRITICAL.
THAT MONEY HAS BEEN EXPENDED FOR THE MOST PART.
AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE HAVE PRIORITIZED, UH, THE DIFFERENT PARK PROJECTS AND WE HAVE GONE OUT FOR A NH TAX MONEY.
WE HAVE GONE OUT FOR DIFFERENT GRANTS.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT OP, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN TO FIND MONEY TO PAIR WITH THOSE DOLLARS.
AND WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT NOW WHERE TO BUILD PARKS, WE'RE STRUGGLING TO COME UP WITH DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, ALMOST $2 MILLION FOR THIS LADIES ISLAND, UM, PARK.
SO IF STEPHANIE, IF YOU'LL COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THE BOND, APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT AND THE UNFUNDED AND WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR CIP FUNDS, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD $5 MILLION FOR, UM, PARKS AS ALLOCATED THROUGH THE BOND.
UM, SO THE UM, THE AMOUNT THAT'S ON THIS SLIDE IS THE FULLY FUNDED PROJECT.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT A TRAIL EXTENSION AT CRYSTAL LAKE PARK.
WE'VE GOT THE PIER AT WHITEHALL PARK.
UM, WE HAVE OTEE RIVER, THE OKEE RIVER PARK THAT'S FULLY FUNDED.
MARY'S, UM, PLANNING IS PART OF THAT.
AND THEN WHICH OTHER ONE FORD SHIP? UH, FORD SHELL RING, WHICH IS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON
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HEAD ISLAND.SO ALL THOSE PROJECTS ARE IN SOME LEVEL OF FUNDING TO CONSTRUCTION AND ARE FUNDED FOR THIS YEAR GOING INTO NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT AMOUNT UP THERE IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING SPENT ON PROJECTS WORKED ON, BEING WORKED ON THIS FISCAL YEAR IS SO THAT I'M STILL A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED.
SO THAT IS A DELTA OR NOT, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT A DELTA DELTA FOR THE TWO PROJECTS, THE 2,000,118? NO, THAT $2,118,500 IS THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF BOND FUNDING BEING SPENT NOW GOING INTO NEXT FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE THE PROJECTS ARE CROSSING FISCAL YEARS.
I HAVE ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY SLIGHTLY LESS THAN 2 MILLION REMAINING THAT IS ALSO BEING USED NEXT FISCAL YEAR FOR OTHER THINGS TOO THAT I THINK ERIC IS GONNA OKAY.
BUT IS THE NET DELTA, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ON THIS BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY SHORT MONEY IN PASSIVE PARKS.
THE DELTA IS UPWARDS OF $10 MILLION WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE PARKS.
SO UNDER THE FUNDED LIST, BOND MONIES ARE BEING USED, THERE ARE REQUESTS BEING MADE THROUGH THE CIP BUDGET PROCESS FOR TWO, WHICH IS THE LADIES ISLAND PARK AND WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE LADIES ISLAND PARK? THE PINEVIEW CHERRY HILL PARK.
THE CHERRY HILL PARK AND UM, OH AND PINE VIEW.
UH, PINE VIEW AND THE, UH, FORT FREMONT.
SO THAT'S WHERE YOUR DELTAS ARE? YES, WE'RE ENCUMBERING THE FUNDS FROM, UM, THE BOND, BUT THERE'S A HUGE HOLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUR WAY OUT OF.
SO WE ARE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR OVER $2 MILLION IN ADDITION TO THOSE TO GET THOSE TWO PROJECTS GOING.
SO WITHOUT BREAKING OUT SPREADSHEETS AND SHOWING WHERE EVERY PIECE IS, IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT.
I BELIEVE IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT WE WERE GONNA TRY AND DO IS WE HAVE SO MANY PASSIVE PARKS OUT THERE.
WE HAVE SO MANY IN VARIOUS STAGES.
WE WERE GONNA TRY AND FINISH AS MANY OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE STARTED BEFORE WE START NEW ONES.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS MONEY IS ALL ABOUT.
AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION WITH, WITH THE PINE VIEW, UH, WITH THIS ASK, IS THAT GOING TO HELP GET THAT PROJECT STARTED FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR? OR IS IT, UH, PLANNED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR? YEAH, PINE VIEW RIGHT NOW WE HAVE COMPLETELY FINISHED THE CIVIL PLANNING.
SO THE ASK IS NEXT FISCAL YEAR FOR CONSTRUCTION.
AND I ACTUALLY, I'VE SUBMITTED A PARD GRANT AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER FUNDS THAT I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO FIND MONEY.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND NOW? I DO.
BUT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT BACK TO FORT FREMONT.
IS THAT A FEDERAL PARK? NO, NO, IT'S NOT FORT FREMONT.
YEAH, FORT FREMONT PRESERVE IS A COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY.
UM, BUT WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS WHO RUN THE HISTORY CENTER THERE.
BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INVOLVED IN THAT IN ANY WAY? NO, MA'AM.
I MENTIONED FORT FREMONT LAST YEAR AND I GOT YELLED AT, SO, SO I MAY HAVE CAUSED MORE CONFUSION THAN I SAW WITH MY LAST SLIDE.
THIS WAS THE SLIDE I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF.
THIS IS A SLIDE THAT KIND OF ANSWERS MS. HOWARD'S QUESTION.
UH, SO OF THAT 55 MILLION, YOU SEE THE CIP FUND ASK IS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF.
THE REST OF THE PROJECTS ARE, ARE FUNDED BY ANOTHER SOURCE.
AND, AND, UH, I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF WITH THE SALES TAX THING WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THAT BIG PURPLE BLOB ON THAT LAST PIE CHART.
BUT I THINK WE'VE, I THINK WE'VE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
BUT YOU SEE THERE'S MULTIPLE SOURCES OF FUNDING THAT THESE PROJECTS GO AFTER.
AND ONLY A PORTION OF 'EM ARE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR THE FUNDING THROUGH THE CIP FUND.
'CAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THEIR PROJECT FUNDING FROM ANOTHER SOURCE.
AND SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER CHART.
SAME 55 MILLION SPLIT UP A DIFFERENT WAY.
UH, FEES ARE AMONG THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THAT 55 MILLION.
THIS IS THE, SOME OF THESE ARE, UM, ALL THESE, EXCUSE ME, ARE PROJECTS N 24 THAT WILL BE CONTINUING ON THIS KIND OF PAIRS UP WITH THE PREVIOUS LIST I SHOWED YOU OF PROJECTS THAT'LL BE COMPLETED.
THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WON'T BE COMPLETED BY THE JUNE 30TH, BUT ARE ALREADY IN PROGRESS IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.
AND, UH, IT'S AN EXTENSIVE LIST.
AGAIN, I WON'T GO OVER IT, BUT YOU HAVE THESE, AND YOU'LL HAVE THE DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECTS WITH THE CIP BOOK ONCE WE GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
UH, AND, AND THERE'S SEVERAL, AS STEPHANIE AND, AND CHUCK POINTED OUT, THERE'S SEVERAL PROJECTS RELATED TO THEIR PROGRAM AS WELL AS, UH, A LOT OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, REQUESTS THAT ARE, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING.
UM, ON THAT SIDE, THE, UH, ALVIN SETTLES POOL DECK REHABILITATION THAT WON'T KEEP THE POOL FROM NOT OPENING WILL IT THIS SUMMER? NO, THAT IS, THAT SHOULD NOT,
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THAT IS, UH, REPAIR, RE REMOVING AND REPLACING THE CAULK, SEALANT IN THE CRACKS.WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE.
ONCE IT'S DONE, STARTED AND WE'RE GETTING QUOTES FROM CONTRACTORS, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT ON THAT IS SMALL.
UH, IT, YOU PROBABLY WON'T SEE THAT COMING THROUGH COMMITTEE 'CAUSE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ON THOSE ARE SO ON THAT PROJECT SO SMALL.
JUST, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT'S HEAVILY USED POOL IN THE SUMMER.
IT ALSO INVOLVES, IT SAYS POOL DECK REHAB, BUT IT ALSO INVOLVES REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF THAT WATER SLIDE THAT'S THERE, THAT'S ONGOING.
ALSO, ERIC, WHAT IS THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT? FOAM CART TRAINING.
WHAT IS THAT? UH, I KNOW JOHN'S NOT HERE.
I'LL DO MY BEST TO EXPLAIN THAT.
THAT IS A REQUEST THAT IS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THEY USE FOR FIREFIGHTING.
THEY USE FOAM FOR FIREFIGHTING WITH JET FUEL.
AND UH, THAT IS A, THE REASON IT'S IN THE CONTINUING IN IS I THINK THEY HAVE FUNDING AND THEY'RE TRYING TO SOURCE THAT PROJECT.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S A, THAT'S MORE OF A CAPITAL EQUIPMENT PURCHASE TO BE HONEST.
BUT IT FALLS IN THIS, THIS CATEGORY.
AND THAT'S ONE, THAT'S ONE OF HIS PROJECTS.
IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT CIP DEPARTMENT FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, WE ACTUALLY AREN'T MANAGING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS ARE ON A SEPARATE SLIDE 'CAUSE THEY'RE SO EXTENSIVE.
ERIC, I HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE.
IT'S SUN CITY FIRE EMS STATION 39.
I KNOW IT'S IN, IS IT IN DESIGN PHASE? I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE IN THE PROCUREMENT PHASE TO SELECT A CONSULTANT TO DO THE DESIGN.
AND THEN, BUT WE HAVE THAT FULLY FUNDED, CORRECT.
IT IS FUNDED FOR 5 MILLION AND THAT EARLY ESTIMATES SAY THAT'S ENOUGH, UH, FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
UH, BUT I THINK THEY'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, PROCURING THOSE DESIGN SERVICES.
THEY HAVEN'T STARTED DESIGN WORK YET.
SO, AND I KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE A BAD QUESTION, BUT THEY CAN'T JUST USE THE ONE THAT DID THE LAST COUPLE STATIONS.
THEY, THEY ARE GOING TO DO THAT TAB WITH MODIFICATIONS.
THEY HAVE A SET DESIGN FOR ALL OF THE FIRE STATIONS.
AND WHEN THEY FIND THE PIECE OF PROPERTY TO PUT IT ON, THEY DO MODIFICATIONS OF THE DESIGN.
SO THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
I DID SEE THOUGH, IN ONE SLIDE BACK THERE, IT SAID IT WAS EMS STATION 34.
34 IS WILLIAM POPE, UH, NEXT TO THE HOTELS IN OT HEALTH.
IT IS, IT'S ON THE COMPLETED LIST.
WE'RE, WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN PROCESS OF PUNCHING IT OUT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S COMPLETED.
ERIC, YOU SAID STATION 39 HAS TO GO TO BID THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT
SO TO CLARIFY, THEY INTEND TO RECYCLE A, A FLOOR PLAN AND A LAYOUT AND A BUILDING DESIGN THAT THEY LIKE THAT THEY'VE USED A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW, UH, HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO PROCURE DESIGN SERVICES TO MODIFY THE DESIGN TO FIT THE SITE.
AND YOU HAVE TO DO THE SITE DESIGN 'CAUSE THE SITE'S UNIQUE.
AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT REQUIRES US TO GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND, AND WITH, TO, TO RETAIN THE SERVICES.
THE CONSULTANT DESIGN, DESIGN CONSULTANT, EXCUSE ME.
AND WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS THE STEP THE PROJECT PROJECT IS IN.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, E ERIC, UH, WITH REGARD TO ST.
MARY'S, IS THAT ON SCHEDULE ACCORDING TO PLAN? YES, SIR.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE TRAINS GOING IN PARALLEL DIRECTIONS ON THAT.
WE ARE CURRENTLY, UH, ADVERTISING FOR DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURES.
UH, STEPHANIE HAD A PREVIOUS PROJECT TO DO A CONCEPT DESIGN, UH, ON THE PARK, WHICH IS COMPLETE.
WE'VE TAKEN THAT CONCEPT DESIGN AND GIVEN IT TO CIVIL ENGINEERING AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE DESIGN CONSULTANTS TO PUT THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS TOGETHER FOR THE NEW PARK.
AND THOSE ARE THOSE BI UH, PROPOSALS WERE ACTUALLY RECEIVED LAST WEEK.
AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF INTERVIEWING AND SELECTING A DESIGN CONSULTANT FOR THAT PROJECT.
THE, THE DEMOLITION WILL BE DONE BY THE TIME WE MAKE THAT SELECTION AND WE'LL BRING FORWARD THE SELECTION OF THE DESIGNER TO FINISH THAT DESIGN WORK.
AND THEN A FUTURE PROJECT WILL BE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
UH, I, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A CALL ABOUT THAT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, LISTEN, THERE'S COMMUNITY INTEREST IN EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING OF COURSE.
BUT THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF, UH, UH, COMMUNITY INTEREST IN THE, HOW THIS IS PROCEEDING.
AND I'M GONNA JUST GIVE YOU A CALL SO YOU CAN SUMMARIZE THAT AGAIN FOR ME SO I CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF NOTES AND THEN, UH, INFORM SOME PEOPLE, UH, ABOUT THE SUCCESS THAT YOU'RE HAVING MOVING FORWARD.
SO CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING THAT DONE.
AGAIN, I MENTIONED THE CONSTRUCT.
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ARE, ARE LISTED SEPARATELY 'CAUSE THEY'RE AN EXTENSIVE LIST.UH, BUT THAT FALLS INTO THE SAME CATEGORY AS THE PREVIOUS MM-HMM.
SO THEN WE MOVE ON TO, UH, NEWER PROJECTS.
UH, THAT IS, WE CALL THESE THE RANKED PROJECTS.
THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT REALLY ARE COMPETING FOR FUNDING THE MOST, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, THE LACK OF FUNDING THEY'VE HAD IN THE PAST OR THEIR BRAND NEW IDENTIFIED PROJECT.
THOSE ARE 44 PROJECTS THAT ULTIMATELY THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF SELECTION CRITERIA, RANKING AND SCORING AND PRIORITIZATION, 44 PROJECTS, UM, CAME UP WITH RECOMMENDATION FOR FUNDING.
AGAIN, THAT WAS BASED ON A PROJECTED REVENUE, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 25, 30 MILLION, UH, IS WHAT WE STARTED WITH BACK IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY.
AND SO YOU SEE THE BREAKDOWN BY DEPARTMENT ON THESE PROJECTS, UM, OF SIGNIFICANCE.
YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF THEM JUST, UH, THEY JUMP OUT AT YOU BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND THE FACT YOU SEE ONE PROJECT FOR 5 MILLION, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES.
THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT STATION 39, THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT.
BUT, UH, IT JUMPS OUT AT YOU BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THE WEDGE ON THE PIE THAT IT CREATES.
PARKS AND REC HAS SEVERAL PROJECTS.
AS YOU SEE, UH, MUL, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR REQUEST IS 11 DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
SO THEY HAVE A LARGE, UH, ASK FOR MULTIPLE PROJECTS.
UM, THE DETENTION CENTER GETS SEVERAL PROJECTS RECOMMENDED IN HERE.
UH, THIS IS GETTING BACK TO THE PRESERVING THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, THE, THE DETENTION CENTER IS JUST WAY OVERDUE FOR SOME REFRESH AND SOME RENOVATIONS AND REPAIRS, UH, TO ITS EXTERIOR AND ITS INTERIOR.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THERE'S SOME, SOME, UH, PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL PROJECTS THAT'S ON THEIR OWN OR, OR LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, UH, THAT ARE ADDED TOGETHER.
AND THERE WAS ONE IN PARTICULAR I HIGHLIGHTED, AND IT'S FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
IT'S, IT'S A NEEDED UPGRADE OF SOME OF THEIR HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE THAT THEY USE, UH, IN THEIR UNITS AND IN THEIR, THEIR DISPATCHING, THAT SORT OF THING.
UH, WITH MOTOROLA, IT'S CALLED VESTA.
AND IF YOU ASK ME QUESTIONS, I'M DEFINITELY TURNING AROUND AND ASKING FOR HELP FROM
BUT THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL PROJECT IN ITSELF.
'CAUSE IT WAS IT DOLLAR AMOUNT.
YOU SEE THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE PROJECTS THERE.
WHEN I FLIP TO THE NEXT SIDE SLIDE, DID I SKIP ONE? OKAY.
SO THE PIE WOULD'VE BEEN JUST BEEN ONE BIG RED CIRCLE.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, UH, LISTED.
HERE'S THOSE PROJECTS, THOSE 44 PROJECTS LISTED OUT FOR YOU.
I TRIED TO SORT 'EM OUT THE BEST I COULD BY DEPARTMENTS SO THAT IF YOU WERE SCANNING THROUGH, YOU COULD KINDA SEE THE GROUPINGS OF THE PROJECTS.
AGAIN, I WON'T GO OVER 'EM, BUT THEY SPAN THE GAMUT.
UH, ESSENTIAL SERVICES, SHERIFF, UH, DETENTION CENTER, UH, PARKS AND REC, UH, OUR FACILITIES.
UH, AND THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS HERE.
UH, AND A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED PROJECTS.
AGAIN, UH, FACILITIES MANAGEMENT AND CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE GEEK OUT AND REALLY GET INTO THESE PROJECTS.
BUT YOU COULD PROBABLY CARE LESS IF WE REPLACE A ROOF OR AN HVAC SYSTEM UNTIL IT STARTS LEAKING OR IF IT'S NOT WORKING.
UH, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ME AT THE HOT SEAT OR NOT, BUT I KNOW THE AIR CONDITIONER'S NOT WORKING IN HERE.
THEY'RE ON THE ROOF RIGHT NOW.
THEY SHOULD BE ON THE ROOF RIGHT NOW WORKING ON IT.
UM, MOVING ON, I DID LIST TWO PROJECTS.
THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING, BUT NOT WITH THE CAPITAL FUND.
UH, THE TWO PROJECTS AT THE BOTTOM ARE SO LARGE AND SO, UH, BIG IN THEIR SCOPE THAT THEY NEED THEIR OWN FUNDING SOURCE.
AND I'M SURE, UH, JOHN AND DENISE WILL BE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT I HIGHLIGHTED THEM SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE, UH, THEY ARE RECOMMENDED TO GO FORWARD, BUT WE JUST CAN'T FUND THEM WITH THE PROJECTED FUNDING FOR CIP RIGHT.
I, I ACTUALLY WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT BEFORE YOU GOT TO THIS SLIDE FOR, FOR PROJECTS SUCH AS THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I HOPE WE TRY TO GET THIS ONE DONE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
BUT FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED 10 YEARS OUT, ARE WE SAVING ANYTHING THROUGHOUT THE FISCAL YEARS IN ANTICIPATION OF DOING THESE, THESE LARGER PROJECTS? OR IS IT JUST EVERY YEAR JUST, JUST ALLOCATING THE FUNDS? I I'M GONNA, I'M, WHAT I'M GONNA ASK IS THAT WE'D MAYBE DEFER THAT CONVERSATION FOR OKAY.
FOR FUTURE, WHEN DENISE AND JOHN CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT FUNDING SOURCES, SHE SAYS, NO, WE'LL ADDRESS PLEASE IS ONLY ABOUT 26 MILLION AND, AND IT ZEROS OUT OR HAVE MORE PROJECTS.
THERE'S A COUPLE THAT STAND OUT ON HERE FOR FREMONT PRESERVE STAIRS AND RAILS.
IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE LIKE I HAVE AND WITNESSED PEOPLE ACTUALLY FALLING.
AND THAT'S A PROJECT IDENTIFIED BY STEPHANIE AND CHUCK.
AND WE'RE GONNA, THAT DEFINITELY ON
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THE LIST FOR FUNDING.SO, SORRY FOR KEEP JUMPING OUTTA MY SEAT HERE.
THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WE HAD OTHER REQUESTS.
SO IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF REQUESTS THAT WERE RECEIVED, THEN STAFF GOES THROUGH AND RANKS THOSE REQUESTS.
THESE ARE NOT THE ONLY TWO REQUESTS FOR PASSIVE PARKS THAT WERE MADE.
THEY WERE JUST THE TWO HIGHEST, THEY WERE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY TOO, THAT WOULD FIT IN THE BUDGET THAT WE THOUGHT, UM, WERE A PRIORITY BECAUSE OF THEIR LOCATION, BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY ASPECTS, BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE, UM, WITH THE PLANNING OF, UM, PINE U, UH, PRESERVE AND THEN THE SAFETY ASPECT OF FORT FREMONT.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THE POINT THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE, THESE ARE NOT ALL OF THE ASKS.
THESE ARE JUST THE RANKED PORTIONS THAT FIT INTO WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE IN OUR BUDGET.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY WHO IS REPRESENTED ON THIS LIST COULD STAND HERE AND SAY EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
SO IT'S KIND OF, IT'S BEEN VETTED, BUT WE AGREE THAT EVERYTHING ON THIS LIST IS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY.
BUT THAT ONE IS THAT SAFETY AND LIABILITY.
AND AGAIN, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING.
UH, WHAT CHUCK JUST MENTIONED IS MY NEXT SLIDE.
UH, BUT THIS IS THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING, UH, AND, UM, MATCHES UP WITH THE PROJECTED REVENUE AS IT STANDS TODAY, UH, WITH A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS AS I'VE LISTED BELOW.
SO, AND, AND DAVID, I WANTED TO MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT YOUR COMMENT.
I KNOW DENISE SAYS NO, BUT IN, IN WHERE I SIT FROM MY CHAIR AT ON JULY 1ST, YOU GUYS GIVE ME A DAVE RAMSEY ENVELOPE FULL OF CASH, AND IT'S MY JOB TO HAVE THAT ENVELOPE EMPTIED BY JUNE 30TH.
THIS IS WHERE, UH, SO I'VE SPENT ALL THE MONEY.
IT, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT DIDN'T, UH, GET RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING, BUT IS NEEDED.
UH, I NEED TO SAY THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS BEING NEEDED, BUT UNFORTUNATELY ARE, UH, IN, ON THE BULLPEN WAITING TO BE CALLED UP IF ADDITIONAL MONEY BECOMES AVAILABLE.
AND YOU SEE THAT AS ABOUT $70 MILLION OF ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR THIS YEAR.
UH, AND 68 PRO, ACTUALLY IT'S 69 PROJECTS.
UM, UH, THAT NUMBER SAYS 68 BECAUSE ONE OF 'EM ACTUALLY HAS A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING.
SO IT DIDN'T FALL OUT AS BEING, UH, UH, UNFUNDED $70 MILLION.
YOU SEE, AGAIN, THE, THE ASK, UH, THIS IS SKEWED A LITTLE BIT.
YOU SEE THAT BIG P PIE WEDGE FOR PUBLIC WORKS, THAT'S THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING THAT'S I MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
UH, BUT YOU SEE THE, THERE'S, UH, DEFINITELY A LOT OF NEEDS.
NEARLY 70 PROJECTS, $70 MILLION, UH, NEEDED FOR THESE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS.
UM, IT WAS DELAYED AND THEN IT TOOK OFF ON ME.
UH, HERE'S AGAIN, SUMMARY OF THE LIST OF PROJECTS.
I DID MY BEST TO KIND OF SORT 'EM BY DEPARTMENT AGAIN, SO THAT YOU CAN SCROLL 'EM EASILY AND SEE WHAT THOSE PROJECTS ENTAIL.
UH, AND AGAIN, YOU'LL HAVE A VERY DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF EACH PROJECT, UH, AND ITS DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, UH, WITH YOUR CIP BOOK IN THE BUDGET PRO, WHEN YOU FINALLY GET THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET, UH, PUT TOGETHER, UM, SO THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO READ THESE INDIVIDUALLY.
BUT AGAIN, THEY SPAN THE GAMUT.
YOU SEE, IT'S, IT'S, UH, AS CHUCK JUST POINTED OUT, EVERYBODY GOT SOMETHING, BUT THEY DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING.
SO YOU HAVE THE, UH, UNFUNDED LIST OF PROJECTS FROM EACH DEPARTMENT LISTED HERE, AND THAT CONTINUES ON.
AGAIN, I, THEY'RE GROUPED UP BY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
AND THEN THERE ARE A FEW HANDFUL OF TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS THAT ARE COMPETING FOR CIP FUNDING THAT ARE NOT IN THEIR CURRENT PLAN, ARE NOT BEING FUNDED BY OTHER SOURCES LIKE LATS OR 1 CENT SALES TAX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
HEY, ERIC, WHEN THESE THINGS COME INTO YOU, THEY COME IN WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
THE DEPARTMENT HEAD WILL PUT TOGETHER A, A PROJECT SHEET.
IT HAS A VERY DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS.
IT HAS A JUSTIFICATION PARAGRAPH TO EXPLAIN WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
IT, THAT GETS BACK TO THE RANKING CRITERIA.
AND THEN IT HAS A BROKEN DOWN, UH, DESIGN CONSTRUCTION COST BY YEAR.
UH, WE HELP WITH THOSE ESTIMATES SOME, 'CAUSE SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENTS SAY, I NEED SOMETHING, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ESTIMATE THE CONSTRUCTION COST OR DESIGN COST.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT CIP COMES INTO PLAY.
UH, BUT YES, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A DETAILED CUT SHEET ON EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, AND THEN WE TOTAL OWES TO COME UP WITH THE NUMBERS I'M SHOWING YOU TODAY.
NOW, I HAD A, I HAD A QUESTION.
WELL, THE DSN TO BUILD THE TWO HOUSES ARE PRETTY NEW, DN AND, UM, BOSTIC, DID THEY HAVE FLOODING OR SOMETHING THAT CAUSED FLOORING REPLACEMENT? DO YOU KNOW? UH, NO.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, ROUTINE REPLACEMENT.
I KNOW THE, THE BUILDINGS ARE NO THE, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO, THERE'S NOT ANY DRAINAGE
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OR FLOODING ISSUES WITH THOSE.IT'S JUST THE CARPETS AND STUFF ARE WORE OUT IN THOSE.
AND SO THEY'VE ASKED FOR US TO FUND A REPLACEMENT OF THAT FLOORING MATERIAL.
I MEAN, BO LESS THAN THEY'RE HEAVY FIVE YEARS OLD.
ERIC, I HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE.
UM, DID I MISS IT OR IS THERE NOTHING HERE TO CREATE A REC CENTER ON ST.
HELENA ISLAND? THERE IS NOT A PROJECT RECOMMENDED FOR THAT AT THIS TIME THAT I'M AWARE OF.
NOW, MR. BROWN, OUR NEWEST, OUR NEW DIRECTOR'S IN THE BACK, I'LL BE HAPPY TO PUT HIM ON THE SPOT.
UH, BUT NO, THERE WAS NOT A REQUEST FOR A NEW FACILITY ON ST.
UM, WITH WITH DSN AND SOME OF THESE OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENTS ARE, IS THERE ANY STATE OR FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WE COULD TAP INTO THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE? I-D-S-N-I BELIEVE.
DENISE ANN AUDREY COMING TO SAVE ME ON THIS ONE.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, SO IT IS A LONGER LIST OF, THESE DEPARTMENTS LOOK FOR EVERY FUNDING SOURCE THEY POSSIBLY CAN, AND THAT GETS INTO THOSE CUT SHEETS.
YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES THAT THEY'RE IDENTIFYING.
UH, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA MAKE UP THE DELTA WITH, IF I CAN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE ELSE, I NEED CIP FUNDING.
I GOT, SO THAT'S WHERE, HOW IT MAKES THIS LIST.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, EACH HOUSE THERE, THERE IS STATE FUNDING THAT IS ALLOCATED TO EACH HOUSE.
SO YES, THERE IS SOME, UM, FUNDING FROM THE STATE THAT HELPS WITH THESE HOMES.
WOULD, WOULD THERE BE ANYTHING WE COULD DO WITH A, A, A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION COMING IN TO HELP MEET SOME OF THESE NEEDS? OR DOES IT HAVE TO GO THROUGH? WELL, THEY'RE COUNTY OWNED FACILITIES, SO, UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY IF WE, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS PREVENTED MAINTENANCE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UH, ERIC, SINCE WE ARE GOING TO BE RECEIVING ALL OF THIS DOCUMENTATION, AND IT'S GONNA BE POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THIS UNDER TRANSPORTATION RELATED, IT SAYS REIMAGINED RIBO ROAD.
WE'VE SPECI SPECIFICALLY TAKING OUT THE WORDS REIMAGINE, IT'S JUST THE RIBO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WOULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT GETS CHECKED? AN EXCELLENT POINT, CHAIRMAN, WE CAN'T, WE DON'T USE THAT WORD REIMAGINE ANYMORE.
THIS IS THE PROJECT TITLE AS OF DECEMBER.
AND, AND SO I WAS, I WAS QUITE HONESTLY NOT AWARE OF THAT, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE THAT CHANGE DURING DISCUSSIONS.
SO CAROLYN'S MAKING IT NOW, AND, AND WE'RE GONNA GET THAT INFORMATION TO BACK TO SARAH, UH, THE, THE CIP BOOK.
I KEEP REFERRING TO THIS, THIS MASSIVE EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT I KEEP REFERRING TO.
WE'RE GONNA GET THAT SENT OUT TO YOU AFTER THIS MEETING, AND WE, WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE BEFORE WE SEND IT OUT, SO, GREAT.
THE VERY LAST THING IS JUST TALK ABOUT PROJECTS.
AND WE TALKED THIS A SECOND AGO, PROJECTS SEEKING OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
THEY'RE NOT ASKING US FOR CIP FUNDS, UH, OR GENERAL FUND MONEY.
THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE SAYING THESE ARE IDENTIFIED NEEDS AND IF WE GET THE ALTERNATIVE SOURCE, WE WILL GO FORWARD.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE I REFER TO THE PRO, UH, INITIATIVES SUCH AS THE REFERENDUM AND THE 1 CENT SALES TAX THAT BIG RED WEDGE IS TAKEN CARE OF WITH THAT.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S JUST A FEW PROJECTS RELATED TO THAT.
IF YOU TAKE TRANSPORTATION ASIDE FOR A SECOND, THERE'S ONLY A FEW PROJECTS LEFT.
THESE ARE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THESE ARE IMPACT FEE PROJECTS, STUFF THAT WILL HAPPEN EVENTUALLY WHEN THE FUNDING'S MADE AVAILABLE.
BUT THEY'RE NOT SEEKING FUNDING.
THERE'S JUST A HANDFUL OF 'EM.
BUT I WANTED TO LIST THEM ANYWAY, UH, SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT COMPLETE LIST, BECAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE NOW IN THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND IN THE CIP BOOK YOU'LL BE GIVEN IS ALL 200 AND SOMETHING PROJECTS THAT I MENTIONED, UH, WITH 212 TABS ON THAT WORKBOOK.
SO, HAVE FUN
AND EACH SHEET BEING A PROJECT, UH, DESCRIPTION, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT SMALL.
SO AT THAT POINT, UH, I'M OPEN FOR MORE QUE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS SITTING HERE? HOW ABOUT ONLINE? ANY QUESTIONS FROM OKAY.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE POPULATION CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT LIVES HERE, THAT KNOW THAT WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE A GREAT QUALITY OF LIFE AND IT TAKES SOME MONEY TO MAINTAIN THAT QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, SO WHILE SARAH PUTS UP THE SLIDES AND THE, THE PDF DOCUMENT THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU, UM, DID
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THEY GET IT LAST NIGHT? YES, MA'AM.UM, SO THIS IS A RECAP OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS BUDGETS.
UM, AND THEN, UH, A COUPLE OTHER ADDITIONAL PAGES IN THERE AS WELL.
UM, DENISE AND I CONDUCTED ABOUT 38 MEETINGS WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS OVER THE COURSE OF EIGHT DAYS, AND, UM, ARE STILL MASSAGING THE DATA AND THE INFORMATION A LITTLE BIT, UM, ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE PUT IN HERE THIS DETAILS WHAT THEIR, UM, REQUEST IS FOR 2025, WHAT THEIR REQUEST WAS FOR 24, UM, WHERE THEY ARE YEAR TO DATE FOR 24, AND THEN A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, THEIR 24 REQUESTS AND THEIR 25 REQUESTS.
AND THEN THE PERCENTAGE DIFFERENCE.
SO IF YOU LOOK IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER, YOU'LL SEE THEIR TOTAL.
UM, AND SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK MOSTLY AT THE ONES THAT ARE OVER 1% DIFFERENCE.
UM, AND THEN JUST KEEP IN MIND TOO, THAT SALARIES AND WAGES, UM, WE JUST CARRIED OVER WHAT THEY HAD FOR 24 INTO 25 ON MOST OF THEM, UM, PENDING THE COMP AND CLASS STUDY THAT IS BEING CONDUCTED AS WE SPEAK.
UM, SO YOU'LL SEE IF YOU GO TO THE THIRD ONE, WHICH IS FAMILY COURT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY ASKED FOR A 1.3599999999999999% INCREASE.
AND THAT'S MAINLY FOR SOME BUDGET SOFTWARE THAT, UM, DSS PAYS FOR NOW, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ABSORB.
AND THEN IF YOU TURN TO THE MATCHES, I'M SORRY, DID WE GET THIS IN ADVANCE? I DON'T SEE IT.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK I GOT IT ON THERE.
IT WAS SENT THIS MORNING BECAUSE IT WAS EMAILED TO US LAST NIGHT.
UH, WELL, YOU GOT IT THIS MORNING.
IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMPUTER IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE IT.
UH, IF YOU DON'T, WE'RE JUST WINGING IT AS WE SPEAK
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT LATER.
AND THEN, SO THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAGISTRATE SHEET, UM, THEY HAVE A 3%, UM, INCREASE ROUGHLY BECAUSE OF A 4.45% INCREASE IN SALARIES AND WAGES, WHICH THEY PLUGGED IN THEMSELVES.
UM, SO THAT IS SORT OF AN EARMARK THERE.
UM, AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROBATE JUDGE HAS ABOUT A TWO POINT HALF PERCENT INCREASE.
AND THIS IS BASED ON JUST A LOT OF ADDITIONAL, UM, NEEDS.
THEY ARE GONNA ADD SOME STAFF TO THEIR TEAM.
UM, AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO ADD MORE EQUIPMENT AND, UM, ALL THE OTHER ANCILLARY ITEMS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.
AND THEN, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS IN HERE, BUT THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE NOT PART OF THE COMP AND CLASS STUDY, SO THEY RIGHT.
THEY DID PLUG IN SOME NUMBERS FOR THEIR SALARIES AND WAGES AS WELL.
WE, WE, UM, AND THERE'S NOTES ON HERE.
YOU'LL SEE IF, HOLD ON A SECOND.
UM, WE'RE STILL ON FAMILY COURT.
OH, I'M FIGURE OUT THERE WORK.
I JUST WANTED, NO, I'M SO SORRY.
SO I JUST, I'M AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NOTES INCLUDED, YOU'LL SEE THE NOTES COLUMN TO THE RIGHT.
SO IF DURING THE BUDGET MEETING WE PLUG NOTES IN, OR THEY HAD NOTES PUT IN THERE, UM, BEFORE WE MET THAT DESCRIBES WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.
UM, SO I TRANSFERRED THOSE OVER INTO THIS DOCUMENT.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS HERE AND THEY CAN ADDRESS THOSE, OR ANY OF THE OTHERS, I CAN TAKE THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU ON IT.
UM, SO THEN WE HAVE THE TREASURER'S OFFICE WHO ALSO SH UM, ASKED FOR AN INCREASE A TOTAL OF ABOUT 6.66%.
AND THAT'S MOSTLY COMING FROM THE SALARIES AND WAGES AREA.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THEY DO FALL UNDER THE COMP AND CLASS STUDY.
WE'LL SEE HOW THAT SHAKES OUT AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN I WANNA MOVE OVER TO THE DIRECT SUBSIDIES.
SO THIS IS SORT OF A RECAP OF THE MEETING THAT WE HAD IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, UM, LAST WEEK.
UM, THESE WERE THE REQUESTS, SOME OF THESE PEOPLE PRESENTED, SOME DID NOT.
UM, BUT I WANTED TO GET IT ON PAPER SO YOU GUYS COULD SEE IT IN ONE SNAPSHOT.
UM, I WANTED TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE
UM, WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THEIR REQUEST TO US, THEY REQUESTED 270,000.
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MEETING WITH THEM BACK IN DECEMBER, AND THEIR REQUEST WAS 189 AT THAT TIME.AND, UM, SO WE WERE JUST HOPING TO GET SOME DIRECTION AND CLARIFICATION WHERE BASED ON THEIR PRESENTATION, WE MIGHT FIND MONEY FOR THEM.
UH, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAVE, UH, VOICED, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT GETTING MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE CAN MAKE A DECISION.
I KNOW THEY HAD PUT IN LIKE $180,000 FOR PLANTINGS, AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PLANTINGS OF, WHAT IS IT? UM, TREES.
WHAT KIND OF TREES? IS IT? PLANTS OF PLANTS.
BUT I'M, I'M SURE, UM, PAULA AND I CAN GET MORE DETAILS.
SO WE NEED TO KNOW IF IT'S NOT TREES.
7,500 FOR WILDFLOWER AND 82,000 FOR PLANTING OF THE TWO CIRCLES.
50, ARE THEY ANNUALS OR PERENNIALS? UH, THEY'D HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT FOR US.
AND MY QUESTION HAVE, HAS THAT BEEN BID OUT THE $82,000 THAT THEY RIGHT.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WAS BID, RIGHT.
AND I DO KNOW THEY HAVE A COMMITTEE MEETING TOMORROW, SO, ALL RIGHT.
I CAN ALSO GET SOME QUESTIONS FROM HIM.
SO IF YOU COULD HIM, IF YOU PASS THAT ON ALICE SO WE CAN GET SOME MORE CLARIFICATION.
LEMME ASK SINCE WE'RE ON THAT SUBJECT REAL QUICK, IS I KNOW THAT WHEN THEY DO PLANNINGS, HOWEVER, THAT MEANS THAT OUR MAINTENANCE INCREASES YEAH.
QUITE A BIT FOR OUR, WHOEVER'S MAINTAINING IT, WHETHER IT'S OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF OR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
AND WE ACTUALLY, ON THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY, WHICH WAS A COUNTY ROAD, WE TOOK OUT PLANNINGS BECAUSE IT WAS COSTING TOO MUCH TO KEEP 'EM UP.
AND THEY LOOKED, I THINK, I THINK MARK, THESE ARE PLANTINGS.
LIKE YOU SEE NORTH CAROLINA HIGHWAY AND GEORGIA HIGHWAY, THEY'RE SELF-MAINTAINING.
THEY'RE NOT LIKE THE PLANTINGS THAT WE HAVE.
I'M JUST BRINGING IN THE PARKWAY.
BUT WE CAN GET, WE CAN GET THAT ALL CLARIFIED.
BUT YEAH, THERE'S DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT KINDS OF PLANTINGS, YOU KNOW, SOME ARE HIGH MAINTENANCE.
SO THEN THIS IS THE, UM, DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET OVERVIEW THAT ALSO DESCRIBES THE, UM, PERCENT INCREASE.
UM, THIS IS FOR DEPARTMENTS THAT HAD MORE THAN 10% INCREASE IN THEIR, UM, REQUESTED IN THEIR BUDGET.
SO YOU GUYS ARE THINKING ABOUT IT AS WE MOVE INTO OUR NEXT PHASE OF THE, THE BUDGET DOCUMENTATION AND PROCESS.
ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SURE THERE MAY BE SOME QUESTIONS.
I'M SURE ONCE EVERYBODY HAS THIS IN HAND, CAN GO THROUGH IT AND WE'LL FILTER IT.
DENISE, YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THESE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
WE'RE JUST GONNA TALK ABOUT IT.
SO THERE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS THAT, THAT I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON.
SO LET'S START WITH, UM, THE LOCAL AT TAX AND HOSPITALITY TAX.
SO GOING BACK, AND I'M ONLY BRINGING THESE UP BECAUSE OF, OF HOW THEY RELATE TO OUR BUDGET.
SO GOING BACK TO ERIC'S PRESENTATION AND, UM, STEPHANIE AND CHUCK'S, THE, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT FORT FREMONT AND THE PINE VIEW PRESERVE PROJECTS, UH, AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE BUDGETED RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY IN THE CIP FUND.
THEIR ASK IS, AND IT'S ABOUT $2.5 MILLION, BUT THERE IS, YOU COULD, IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU COULD USE LOCAL A TAX OR HOSPITALITY TAX TO FUND THESE PROJECTS.
I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
UM, WE WILL TAKE DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL THOUGH AND, UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WOULD, WOULD THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A COMMITTEE AGAIN OR HOW WOULD THAT NO.
SO THIS YEAR, AND THIS IS ANOTHER REASON I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT LOCAL AT TAX AND H TAX.
SO THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO DRAFT A BUDGET ORDINANCE, AND I'VE ALREADY GOT ONE DRAFTED FOR A LOCAL AT TAX AND THEN A BUDGET ORDINANCE FOR HOSPITALITY TAX SO THAT WHEN WE ADOPT OUR BUDGETS, UM, IN JUNE, WE
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CAN INCLUDE THESE TWO SEPARATE ADDITIONAL BUDGET ORDINANCES TO BE ADOPTED AND THAT WAY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND IT'LL HAVE A LINE ITEM BUDGET AND A TOTAL IN THE BUDGET ORDINANCE, THERE WILL BE A TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR AN ESTIMATED, YOU KNOW, BUDGETS ARE ESTIMATES.AND SO IF WE WANTED TO APPROPRIATE THROUGH THOSE LINE ITEMS, WE COULD DO IT BY VOTE OF COUNSEL INSTEAD OF THREE READINGS, AGAIN, IN A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IT'LL SAVE TIME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO THOSE WILL BE COMING FORWARD TO YOU ALL IN, UM, MAY FOR YOUR REVIEW.
SO YOU WILL TELL US THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT COULD BE USED BY AT TAX? YES, SIR.
UM, SO THE NEXT ONE, THE NEXT SPECIAL REVENUE FUND IS THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS FUND.
SO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER, WE CURRENTLY SUPPLEMENT FROM OUR GENERAL FUND $1.5 MILLION ROUGHLY FOR THEIR OPERATIONS.
AND THAT IS BUFORT COUNTY'S PORTION OF CASELOAD AND, AND ALL OF THE COSTS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.
SO TWO FISCAL YEARS AGO, THE PUBLIC DEFENDER WAS TOLD BY PRIOR STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE NO LONGER WITH US, THAT THEY COULD BE PART OF THE COUNTY'S COMP AND CLASS PLAN.
AFTER MEETING WITH MS. WARD AND US MEETING WITH THEM, UM, MS. WARD DISCOVERED THROUGH THE STATE, UH, CODE OF LAWS THAT THEY ARE TO BE PART OF WHAT'S CALLED THE STATE MERIT SYSTEM.
SO THEY CANNOT BE PART OF THE COUNTY'S COMP AND CLASS SYSTEM.
SO, AND WE LET THEM KNOW THAT.
SO THEY'RE, THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, BEFORE THAT HAPPENED, THEIR EMPLOYEES WERE GIVEN WHILE ALL OF THE OTHER COUNTY EMPLOYEES WERE GIVEN AS INCREASES, AND THEY WERE TREATED AS THEY WERE PART OF OUR COMPING CLASS.
SO THAT RESULTED IN AN INCREASE IN EXPENSES, OF COURSE, FOR THEM, AND AN INCREASE IN THEIR BUDGET LINE ITEMS FOR THIS COMING YEAR.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THEY ARE GOING TO BE REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL $499,890 IN THEIR BUDGET TO COVER THOSE INCREASES IN SALARIES AND BENEFITS.
HOWEVER, THEY HAVE GONE AND DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT THEY SERVICE AND ASK FOR INCREASES FROM THOSE COUNTIES AS WELL.
I KNOW THAT AT LEAST TWO OF THE COUNTIES ARE INCREASING.
I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT THE OTHER ONE OR TWO, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY, WE ARE GOING TO BE RECEIVING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THE OTHER COUNTIES.
SO, SO QUESTION, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME, I BELIEVE SOMETIME, UH, LAST YEAR THAT THE STATE HAD AWARDED SOME RETENTION FUNDS.
UM, I THINK CHARLESTON PUBLIC DEFENDERS GOT IT.
I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER CIRCUIT PUBLIC, PUBLIC DEFENDERS GOT THAT STATE FUNDING.
APPARENTLY OUR, OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES OR BEAVER COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDERS DID NOT GET THAT.
THE, THAT HELPED TREMENDOUSLY IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
SO WHAT WE DID IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IS WHEN THEY RECEIVED THOSE FUNDS, WE INCREASED THEIR REVENUE BY THAT AMOUNT AND THEIR SALARY LINE ITEMS BY THAT AMOUNT, OR ELSE THEY WOULD'VE BEEN A DEFICIT.
IS THAT A RECURRING FUND FROM THE STATE, OR IS WAS THAT JUST AT ONE TIME? I'M NOT SURE.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK, UM, ASK THEM.
BUT, BUT I THINK IT IS BECAUSE THEY DID BUDGET FOR AN INCREASE FROM THE STATE THIS YEAR OKAY.
SO, BUT I'M NOT 100% ACCURATE.
SHE WOULD HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU.
SO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER IS ASKING FOR ROUGHLY HALF MILLION DOLLARS, ROUGHLY? MM-HMM.
BECAUSE ONCE YOU INCREASE SALARIES AND BENEFITS, IT'S AN ONGOING, IT'S AN ONGOING EXPENSE.
SO, BUT, BUT THOSE SALARIES HAVE ALREADY BEEN PAID.
THEY HAVE BEEN, NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER HALF MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE OVER WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PAID, AND THEY'RE PART OF THE STATE, STATE MERIT MERIT SYSTEM SYSTEM.
SO I, THEY WOULD'VE HAD A DEFICIT.
SORRY, BUT I HAVE A DISCONNECT.
THEY WOULD'VE HAD A DEFICIT THIS YEAR HAD THEY NOT RECEIVED FUNDING FROM THE STATE.
AND IT, THEY WERE TOLD THAT THEY WERE PART OF OUR COMP AND CLASS, SO THEY GOT INCREASES OKAY.
AND THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE GOT THAT.
SO, BUT THAT THOSE SALARIES WERE IN FACT PAID? YES, THEY WERE.
AND THE SO, BUT THEY WERE NOT BUDGETED, THEY WERE NOT BUDGETED IN THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO THE CO SO THEY'RE GONNA ASK FOR 499, 8 90 AS AN INCREASE IN THEIR TOTAL BUDGET, HOWEVER, THE COUNTY'S PORTION OF THAT ASK IS 424,000.
SO THE DIFFERENCE WILL COME FROM THE OTHER COUNTIES.
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AND THEY'RE NO LONGER PART OF OUR COMP AND CLASS.ANY RAISES THEY'RE GOING TO GET HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE STATE MERIT SYSTEM STATE.
UM, THAT'S IT FOR THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
THERE WAS, THERE WAS ONE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND THAT HAD, THAT'S NOT BEEN TOUCHED IN YEARS, AND MAYBE SOMEONE COULD SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS.
SO BARTON'S RUN, I, MARK AND I DISCUSSED THIS.
I, I DON'T KNOW, CHUCK, DO YOU KNOW WHAT BARTON'S RUN IS? IS IT, WAS IT AN IMPACT FEE OR? YEAH, WE, WE DISCUSSED THIS THIS MORNING.
I WAS TRYING TO JOG MY MEMORY.
I THINK IT WAS BACK WHENEVER WE, UH, PUT IN THE IMPACT FEES FOR THE SCHOOLS AND THEY WERE JUST STARTING OUT AS A NEW DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE REQUIRE THAT THEY PAY ANY NEW SCHOOL IMPACT FEES.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST MY MEMORY.
BUT THAT'S BACK WHEN WE FIRST STARTED IN THOUSAND 18, I THINK IS WHAT THERE CAME A SUIT OVER THAT.
BECAUSE THERE WAS, WELL, THIS ONE IS PAYING, BUT THIS ONE ISN'T.
I'M DEVELOPING OVER HERE AND HERE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT, AND ALL OF THAT STOPPED.
UH, I THINK THE ONE THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF WAS THE MAIL AND BLUFF.
ADOPTED THE SCHOOL IMPACT FEE, IT SUPERSEDED THE ORIGINAL FEE, AND THEN WHEN WE RETRACTED THE FEE, ALL OF THOSE FEES WENT AWAY.
BARTON'S RUN IS A SEPARATE IMPACT FEE.
I'LL HAVE TO GO LOOK TO SEE IF IT'S A ROAD OR, OR EXACTLY WHICH ONE IT IS.
BUT IT WAS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT IS TO BE PAID PER LOT.
THAT IS SEPARATE FROM ALL OF OUR OTHER IMPACT FEES.
BUT I CAN GIVE YOU THAT ORDINANCE.
I CAN, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE IS BARTON'S RUN? UH, IT'S IN BLUFFTON.
BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ACTIVITY SINCE 2017.
AND THE REASON WHY IS YOU HAVE, SO AS THESE THINGS BUILD OUT, YOU TYPICALLY HAVE DIFFERENT LANDOWNERS WHO BUY TWO LOTS.
SO THEY MAY HAVE A VACANT LOT THAT'S NEXT TO THEM, OR VACANT LOTS THAT ARE STILL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE YET TO BE DEVELOPED.
WELL, YOU DON'T PAY IMPACT FEES UNTIL YOU PULL A BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE LOT.
IF IT SITS VACANT, WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO BUILD IT AND PAY THE FEE UNTIL THEY DO.
BUT I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK, UH, YOU KNOW, RE-IDENTIFY WHICH ONES HAVE BEEN OKAY.
UH, PAID WHICH ONES ARE STILL VACANT.
BUT, BUT THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM.
UM, SO HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH MONEY'S IN THAT AND WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO? 45,000? ROUGHLY.
IT'S, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A VERY BIG DEVELOPMENT AND IT WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.
UM, THAT'S WHEN YOU GET INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT RUN 20, 25 YEARS, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS HAPPEN DECADES AGO.
AND YOU HAVE THESE RESIDUALS THAT SORT OF SIT THERE, BUT THEY'RE IDENTIFIED FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES, WHICH REALLY LIMITS US ON HOW AND WHERE WE CAN SPEND THEM.
BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO, TO GO BACK, PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER AND, AND GIVE YOU THE HISTORY OF IT.
SO CHRISTINE AND VALERIE AND I FOUND SOME, FOUND SOME MONEY YESTERDAY.
WHERE IS ERIC? IS, SEE? DID HE LEAVE? OH, OKAY.
WELL, HE MISSED THE GOOD NEWS.
WE, WE CAN LET NO
ANYWAY, IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THAT IS FOR CAPITAL THAT, THAT THEY COULD USE.
SO, AND THEN ALSO GOING BACK TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THAT BUDGET, UM, WHAT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN THERE IS, IS THE SHERIFF HAS ASKED FOR VEHICLES, I THINK TWO POINT, HOW MUCH IS IT? 2.3 MILLION OR, BUT IT'S VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT.
YEAH, VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT AROUND 2.3 OR $2.4 MILLION.
THAT IS INCLUDED IN OUR CIP BUDGET.
THE WHOLE AMOUNT IS, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT IT'S IN THERE OR RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN I THINK TODD, IS HE UP NEXT? HE LIVES.
SO TODD, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TODD DAVIS COME UP AND LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THE, UH, VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
AND LEASE OPTION VERSUS PURCHASE.
SO HE'S GONNA DISCUSS THOSE NUMBERS WITH YOU.
I THINK HE'S GOT A SMALL POWERPOINT.
UM, I RECEIVED 104 REQUESTS FOR VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT.
UM, 74 OF 'EM WERE VEHICLES AND 30 OF 'EM ARE EQUIP EQUIPMENT REQUESTS.
UM, RIGHT NOW THE GENERAL FUND IS ASKING FOR 36 VEHICLES, ROUGHLY $1.6 MILLION, AND THEN SIX, UH, EQUIPMENT REQUESTS ROUGHLY 730,000.
UH, THAT'S AROUND $2.3 MILLION.
UH, LIKE I SAID, SHERIFF DENISE ALREADY COVERED THE SHERIFF'S
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OFFICE AROUND $2 MILLION.UH, THE PLAN IS TO MEET, EVERYBODY'S REQUEST IS TO GO TO A LEASING AGREEMENT, UH, FOR HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES.
UH, THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE IS GONNA BE THE DEPARTMENT BREAKDOWN, WHAT EVERYBODY'S REQUESTING THE AMOUNT SO THEY CAN BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
UM, GENERAL FUND ONLY, UH, PURCHASE VERSUS LEASE.
RIGHT NOW, THE PURCHASE, IF WE PURCHASE ALL THE VEHICLES, IT'S GONNA BE AROUND 3.4 MILLION.
AND IF WE LEASE THE VEHICLE, IT'S BE 1.6 UPFRONT COST.
UH, FOR EQUIPMENT, WE'RE LOOKING AT 1.2 MILLION.
IF WE LEASE IT AT 732,000, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE HUGE DIFFERENCE IN SAVINGS FOR UPFRONT COST.
UM, THAT'S OUR GOAL MOVING FORWARD.
SO WE CAN MEET EVERYONE'S REQUEST IN, IN THE LEASING OF EACH OF THOSE.
UM, FOR THE VEHICLES, IS IT A THREE YEAR LEASE? FIVE YEAR LEASE? IT'S GONNA BE A FIVE YEAR LEASE.
UNLIMITED MILES FOR THE VEHICLES AND FOR EQUIPMENT, IT'S GONNA BE A FIVE YEAR LEASE WITH A THOUSAND HOURS.
AND IT'LL BE A ROTATION AND THEN THEY'LL HANDLE THE SALE OF IT, AND THEN WHAT, WHATEVER'S LEFT OVER WILL COME BACK TO US.
MAY, IT MAY REDUCE OUR YEARLY, UH, FEE.
AND HAVE WE TAKEN A LOOK AT OUR CURRENT FLEET TO SEE WHAT CAN BE GOTTEN RID OF WHAT IS GONNA BE TRADED IN? I'M CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH ALL THE LISTS RIGHT NOW THROUGH EVERYONE'S DEPARTMENT.
THERE'S A, WE HAVE A VERY FULL FLEET.
SO I'M TRYING TO COVER ALL THAT UP, SO, OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS? HAS THERE BEEN ACTUALLY ONE QUESTION.
HAVE Y'ALL LOOKED INTO ANY SURPLUS VEHICLES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR STATE GOVERNMENTS TO HELP SUPPLEMENT ANY? THE SHERIFF, THE SHERIFF ONLY HAS ACCESS, UH, TO THE 10 33 PROGRAM.
UM, WE WORK ON THEIR EQUIPMENT QUITE A BIT, AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S NOT IN THE GREATEST CONDITIONS.
SOME, SOMETIMES, UH, BUT FOR SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THEY HAVE, THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD PROBABLY USE IT.
IT'S GONNA BE LIKE THE MRAPS HUMVEES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE, UH, FEDERAL SURPLUS PROGRAM, BY THE TIME THOSE THINGS ARE SURPLUS, THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE VALUE.
AND, UH, THE REPAIR COSTS AND MAINTENANCE ON THEM ARE SOMETIMES IN EXCESS OF WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH REGARD TO A LEASE FOR A NEW VEHICLE.
I'M FAMILIAR WITH THEM AS WELL.
SOMETIMES YOU CAN FIND A COUPLE OF NICE SPECIALTY ITEMS, BUT IF IT'S JUST FLEET VEHICLES, IT'S NOT A WISE PLACE TO GO.
IS THAT, UH, ALL THE PRESENTATIONS TODAY, JOHN? UH, YES, SIR.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? MR. PASSMAN? I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, YOU KNOW ME, I PREFER TO HAVE ALL MY DOCUMENTS TO LOOK AT IN ADVANCE.
SO THAT WAY I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I ASK A QUESTION.
SO I WOULD REALLY REQUEST THAT WE GET THEM IN ADVANCE INSTEAD OF THE DAY OF OR THE NIGHT BEFORE.
MOST OF STAFF WAS WORKING WELL INTO THE NIGHT TO, TO GET OUR NUMBERS TOGETHER.
UH, SO I, I'LL, I'LL TAKE THE, THE BLAME FOR THAT.
WE'LL WORK A LITTLE HARDER TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT DONE AHEAD OF TIME.
BEAUFORT COUNTY'S A BUSY PLACE, UH, SO WE'LL DO BETTER.
I JUST WOULD NOT LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.
ANY, UM, FURTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.
THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.