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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY, CHAIRWOMAN, AMANDA JACKSON, DENMARK.
HERE, VICE CHAIRMAN CHARLIE WHITMORE.
COMMISSIONER JASON STEWART BEER.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NOT HEAR NEW ITEMS AFTER 9:30 PM UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT ITEMS WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD BEFORE NINE 30 MAY BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OR SPECIAL MEETING DATE AS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION MEMBERS.
MAY I HAVE AN ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA? HAVE A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
UM, MAY I HAVE AN ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY THE 28TH? HAVE A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.
CARRIE, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NOT FOR BEFORE THE ITEM? NO.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS? NO, WE DO NOT.
UH, NEW BUSINESS, WE ARE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THE PROPOSED PRIORITIZATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECTS, A REQUEST BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FOR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THE TOWN COUNCIL OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
KIM SAID SHE WOULDN'T DO IT IF I WAS SITTING UP HERE, AND I'M SURE SHE'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
MADAM CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND, AND OBTAIN YOUR INPUT REGARDING THE PRIORITIZATION OF THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 25 PROJECT LIST, UM, AS REQUIRED BY SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAWS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS CHARGED WITH REVIEWING THE CIP PROJECT LIST AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING HOW THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS ARE PRIORITIZED.
YOUR RECOMMENDATION WILL BE, UH, TAKEN TO TOWN COUNCIL IN APRIL AND FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION IN SETTING THE FINAL CIP PROJECT PRIORITIES FOR THE 25 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND BUDGET.
THERE ARE 37 DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN THE CIP CURRENTLY, ABOUT 85% OF THOSE REALLY ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING AND SPAN MULTIPLE FISCAL YEARS TO COMPLETE.
THESE ONGOING PROJECTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN RANKED IN PREVIOUS YEARS, AND WE'RE REALLY NOT LOOKING FOR INPUT REGARDING, UH, RECLASSIFICATION OF ANY OF THOSE.
THE CIP UM, PROJECT LIST FALLS INTO THREE BASIC BUCKETS.
THE FIRST BUCKETS ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMPLETED THAT WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF JUNE AND WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 25 PROJECT LIST.
THERE ARE 12 PROJECTS IN THAT CATEGORY.
THE SECOND BUCKET ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE NEW IN FISCAL YEAR 25.
THESE PROJECTS ARE CURRENTLY UNRANKED AND REQUIRE PLANNING COMMISSION INPUT.
THE FINAL BUCKET IS THAT 85% GROUP, UM, OF PROJECTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED AND PRIORITIZED AND, AND PRIOR YEARS.
AND THOSE ARE, UH, SOME OF THOSE ARE CARRYING FOR INTO, UH, FISCAL YEAR 25.
BUT WE HAVE A REAL SOPHISTICATED, UH, GRADING SYSTEM HERE.
IF IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY ITEM, YOU HAVE A CATEGORY ONE OR A LEVEL ONE, AND, UH, IF IT'S LOWER PRIORITY, IT'S A LEVEL TWO.
NONE OF THESE PROJECTS I'M GONNA PRESENT ARE IN RANK ORDER.
SO HERE'S THE LIST OF COMPLETED PROJECTS, THE 12 PROJECTS.
UH, THEY ARE BASICALLY SEWER PROJECTS, LIGHTING PROJECTS, SOME PARK PROJECTS, UH, AND SOME FACILITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
THESE ARE ALL GONNA BE OFF THE LIST FOR 25.
NOW, THIS LIST IS THE, THE BASICALLY ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CARRYING FORWARD FOR 24 INTO 25 PLUS NEW PROJECTS.
CAN Y'ALL READ THAT BY ANY CHANCE? OR IS THAT A PROBLEM WITH GLASSES? TROUBLE? I KNOW A RESOLUTION ON THE, ON THE IMAGE.
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I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF ENLARGEMENT AND MAIL.UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED LIST FOR 25.
IT INCLUDES ONGOING AS WELL AS NEW PROJECTS.
AND WHAT I WANT TO DO HERE IS REALLY KIND OF GO OVER THE NEW PROJECTS WHERE WE REALLY NEED YOUR INPUT AS FAR AS AS HOW WE WOULD PREFER THEM TO BE RANKED.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS ITEM FIVE ON THIS LIST.
IT'S CALLED TOWN FACILITIES, A DA COMPLIANCE IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, THE TOWN THIS PAST YEAR HAS HIRED A CONSULTANT TO DO A SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS, UH, FOR ALL TOWN BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES.
AS PART OF THAT ANALYSIS IS A, UH, A REVIEW OF A DA COMPLIANCE IN OUR BUILDINGS.
SO, UH, THAT'S ONGOING RIGHT NOW.
BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL HAVE A LIST OF ITEMS THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF IN ORDER TO MEET THE A DA, UH, REQUIREMENTS AND COMPLIANCE ISSUES.
SO, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S A FEDERALLY MANDATED ITEM, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY NUMBER ONE.
THE SECOND, UH, NEW PROJECT ON THE LIST IS NUMBER 15.
IT'S BUCK WATER PLACE IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS REALLY IS THE EOR PARK PROPERTY.
THE TOWN BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AND IT'S BEEN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND HAS DONE A CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN.
THAT PLAN WAS PRESENTED TO TOWN COUNCIL ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO, AND, UH, THEY, THE TOWN COUNCIL ASKED US TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE, UM, THAT ARE PLANNED FOR THAT PROJECT.
SO THEY'RE NOT IN A HURRY TO IMPLEMENT ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THEY DO WANT US TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE DESIGN OF THAT SO WE CAN BUDGET IT OUT OVER, OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
SO AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL COUNCIL HAS, HAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED, WE SEE IT AS A PRIORITY ONE, UM, PROJECT.
THE NEXT ONE IS ITEM 16, WHICH IS PUBLIC ART.
UM, THE TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTED A POLICY OR RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH A PROGRAM TO, UH, IMPLEMENT PUBLIC ART IN SOME OF OUR TOWN OWNED, UH, PROPERTIES AND FACILITIES.
UH, THEY'VE INITIATED A PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND THEY'VE BEEN MEETING FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, AND THEY'RE COMING UP WITH PROJECTS RIGHT NOW.
AND THERE'S BEEN MONEY BUDGETED IN FISCAL YEAR 25 TO, WITH SOME OF THOSE INITIAL PUBLIC ART PROJECTS IN SOME OF OUR TOWN PROPERTIES.
AGAIN, UH, SINCE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ADOPTED AND IMPOSED AND WE HAVE A COMMITTEE WORKING ON IT, THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR AND READY TO IMPLEMENT.
SO WE SEE, AGAIN AS A PRIORITY NUMBER ONE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 22 IS HISTORIC HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, POWER LINE CONVERSION.
UM, ESSENTIALLY THAT CAME OUT OF A MEMORANDUM OF UNDER, UNDER A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH DOMINION ENERGY, WHERE THEY WERE PROPOSING TO HELP US PUT SOME OF THE UNDER THE OVERHEAD POWER LINES UNDERGROUND AND PORTIONS OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
A LOT OF THESE, UM, AREAS THAT'S INSIDE THE PROJECT ARE ACTUALLY IN STREETSCAPE PROJECTS.
THEY'RE KIND OF UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE ARE SOME AREAS ON THE PERIMETER, UH, DEBO LANE, MAIDEN LANE, AND COUPLED THE CROSS STREETS THAT ARE REALLY NOT BEING STUDIED AT THIS POINT FOR STREETSCAPE PROJECTS.
SO, UM, WE, IN ORDER TO KICKSTART THAT PORTION OF THE UNDERGROUND CONVERSION OF THE POWER LINES, UM, WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND START.
WE RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL A NEW PROJECT THIS YEAR TO START OBTAINING EASEMENT, START DOING PLANNING FOR THOSE, THOSE, UH, PERIMETER STREETS AGAIN, PRIORITY NUMBER ONE, UH, SO THAT, THAT CAN KIND OF KEEP ON TRACK WITH OUR STREETSCAPE PROJECTS.
SO THEY'RE UNDERWAY RIGHT AT THIS POINT.
UM, THE FINAL ONE IS LIKE THE THIRD ONE FROM THE BOTTOM.
IT IS SCHULTZ ROAD DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, WE RECENTLY COMPLETED, UH, THE GOTTI SCHULTZ, UH, SIDEWALKS AND LIGHTING PROJECT, AND AS PART OF THAT PROJECT WE WANTED TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO SCHULTZ ROAD DRAINAGE.
THE DITCHES ARE ALWAYS FULL OF WATER IN, AT LEAST IN THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, BUT WE WERE UNABLE TO GET THE RIGHT PERMITS TO DO THAT.
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WE KIND OF STOPPED ON THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT.FIN FINISHED THE PROJECT AND NOW WE WERE UNDER DESIGN OF TRYING TO IMPROVE THE OUTFALL FOR THE SCHULTZ ROAD DRAINAGE AREA, AND, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GET BETTER CONVEYANCE OF WATER FROM THE DISHES THERE.
SO AGAIN, SEE IT AS A PRIORITY NUMBER ONE.
THIS IS THAT LIST, UM, IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT.
ESSENTIALLY, IT, IT KIND OF CATEGORIZES BY PROJECT, BY PROJECT TYPE.
IT ALSO PROVIDES THE NUMBERS IN THE FISCAL YEAR 25 OF WHAT, WHAT'S GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL, UM, IN SOME FORM FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, UH, REQUEST.
AND IT ALSO HAS SOME OBJECTIONS FOR OUT YEARS, BUT THAT'S KIND OF A DYNAMIC, UM, PORTION OF THE SPREADSHEET.
WE ADD TO THAT AS WE GET PROJECTS DESIGNED AND WE GET COST ESTIMATES, WE, WE FILL IN NUMBERS THERE.
SO REALLY, UM, THAT'S WHAT THIS, THIS SHEET'S ALL ABOUT.
WE DO HAVE A, A KIND OF A MAP THAT SHOWS THE, UH, WHERE THESE, UH, CIP PROJECTS ARE LOCATED AND WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS THEY'RE IN.
UM, AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, UM, YOU CAN VISIT OUR, VISIT OUR WEBSITE THAT HAS A, UM, ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE WEBSITE IS A CIP ICON.
YOU GO TO THAT AND YOU, UM, CLICK ON THE STORY MAP THAT GIVES A DESCRIPTION OF EVERY SINGLE, UH, CIP PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF IT, THE BUDGET OF IT, PROJECT PHOTOS, PLANS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
THIS IS THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE, OF THE CIP PROJECTS.
I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL THESE, BUT THESE ARE THE TYPICAL, UH, EVALUATION CRITERIA THAT STAFF AND, AND UH, MUNICIPALITIES USE WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO RANK CIP PROJECTS.
UH, AGAIN, LEGAL MANDATES, ONE OF 'EM.
HEALTH AND SAFETY, WELFARE ITEMS, UM, ECONOMIC BENEFIT, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE USUALLY WHAT IS, UH, USED IN, IN, UH, PRIORITIZING PROJECTS.
SO, PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTION.
THEY CAN APPROVE THE CIP OF FISCAL YEAR 25, 20 25 PRIORITIZATION AS SUBMITTED WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OR APPROVE THE CIP FISCAL YEAR 25 PRIORITIZATION WITH REVISIONS.
SO WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT OR APPROVE
UM, I'M A, I'M, UM, AVAILABLE TO TAKE QUESTIONS IF YOU'D LIKE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'LL DO THE BEST TO ANSWER, ANSWER THEM.
UM, OTHERWISE THERE IS A MOTION IN HERE.
DOES ANYONE WANNA START OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU WANNA START, CHARLIE? OKAY.
UM, AND THIS MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THIS.
I THINK PUBLIC ART IS A GREAT THING.
I SAY THE 200,000 IN THE BUDGET FOR IT, BUT WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE ARTWORK APPROVED? DOES THIS COMMITTEE HAVE THE FINAL, THE ART COMMITTEE HAVE THE FINAL SAY? DOES COUNCIL LOOK AT IT? UM, YEAH, I THINK THERE WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, BUT THERE ARE RFPS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY FORMULATED.
THEY'VE ALREADY DONE A SOLICITATION FOR ARTISTS AND THEY'RE PRIORITIZING LOCAL ARTISTS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, ART CAN BE VERY SUBJECTIVE.
OH, I KNOW
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
DOES THE HPC SEE IT IF THERE'S PUBLIC ART AND HISTORIC DISTRICT, IF THERE IS A PUBLIC PROJECT, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON IT.
WILL IT GO THROUGH THEM? IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH THEM.
THEY JUST PROVIDE, IT GOES TO THEIR MEETING, BUT THEY WILL JUST PROVIDE COMMENTS BACK TO THE UDO ADMINISTRATOR FOR APPROVAL ON A PUBLIC PROJECT.
UM, SCHULTZ ROAD DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS BROUGHT TO MIND.
SOMETHING THAT I NOW SEE EVERY TIME IT RAINS NOW THAT I'M DOWN IN THIS AREA.
AND THAT IS, I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO ADD TO THAT TO IMPROVE THE ROAD AT LAWRENCE STREET, AT CALHOUN, SPECIFICALLY THE SIDE WHERE THE PEARL IS, IT IS UNDERWATER EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
AND THAT IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE FOR PEOPLE WALKING TO AND FROM THE FARMER'S MARKET.
AND YOU CANNOT, THERE'S NO WAY TO PHYSICALLY WALK THROUGH THAT AREA.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT GETS ADDED TO THE PROJECTS OR IF IT GETS, ARE YOU SAYING LAWRENCE AND CALHOUN INTERSECTION, THE FOUR-WAY STOP WHERE LAWRENCE AND CALHOUN IS THAT INTERSECTION ON LAWRENCE STREET WHERE
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THE PEARL IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUILDING.THAT WHOLE THING GETS PROBABLY, WHAT ABOUT 20, 30 FEET LENGTH GETS ABOUT A FOOT UNDERWATER WHEN IT RAINS.
WELL, I CAN GIVE YOU A SLIGHT UPDATE ON THAT, THAT THAT PROJECT, UH, THAT'S CALHOUN STREET STREETSCAPE PROJECT AND IT'S BEEN ONGOING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
WE HAVE SOME HOLDUPS WITH, UM, WITH DOMINION ENERGY AND PROVIDING OUR, UM, DESIGN RELATED TO THAT.
BUT, UM, AS PART OF THAT PROJECT WILL BE MAJOR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS ALL ALONG CALHOUN.
AND IT WILL REQUIRE SOME, WELL, THE, THE, I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE, IS THERE A TEMPORARY FIX THAT CAN BE DONE? MAYBE HE SAYS THAT WITH DEREK AND PUBLIC SERVICES FOR A MAINTENANCE ISSUE.
BECAUSE LAWRENCE IS OUR STREET IN THAT AREA.
SO THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF.
WE'LL SEE IF PUBLIC SERVICES CAN DO ANYTHING AS CALHOUN STREET WILL BE YEARS OUT YET.
I'M JUST, THERE IS, AGAIN, I'M LOOKING FOR UNDERSTOOD.
AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO DO IT.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO PUT IT ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S ADDRESSED ON THIS WITH CALHOUN STREET, BUT ON A MORE IMMEDIATE WE CAN.
THERE IS SOME EXISTING DRAIN THAT'S AT THAT INTERSECTION THAT PERHAPS COULD BE TIED INTO.
I JUST, LIKE I SAID, I JUST HAPPENED TO NOTICE IT AND ALL THESE PEOPLE WALKING TO THE FARMER'S MARKET ONE DAY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE BECAUSE THAT WAS AN IMPASSE.
SO, UM, THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD, THE COVE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES, THE SKIDS
IT IS, IT IS SITTING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST UNRANKED BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN THE ACTION ITEM AGENDA FOR OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING WORK.
NO ONE'S EVER REALLY KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF BEEN IN THE BACK OF PEOPLE'S MIND.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANNA TRY TO DO SOMEWHERE.
THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT THERE'S NOT A VERY LIKELY LOCATION FOR ONE AT THIS POINT, UH, IN TERMS OF COVES NEAR THE WATER NEAR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MUCH CONFLICTS WITH EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S, WE ARE CONSIDERING A BOARDWALK ACROSS, UM, ONE OF THE COVES BETWEEN MONTESSORI SCHOOL, I MEAN BETWEEN HAR GRAY BUILDING AND THE NEW PROPERTY SARAH RILEY HOOKS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE A SKID, LIKE A HISTORIC SKID BECAUSE IT'S, THAT'S NOT GONNA EVER FLY WITH, YOU KNOW, THE REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE NOW IN TERMS OF, UH, CONSTRUCTION, UM, ISSUES.
BUT YOU CAN CALL THE CO SKID, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT AS A BOARDWALK OPTION.
THERE IS NO SIDEWALK THERE ON, UH, IS THAT UG CODE? IT'S BRIDGE OVER EUGEN.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A PARALLEL TO IT ON THE HAR GRAY BUILDING SIGN BEHIND.
BEHIND BETWEEN SARAH RILEY HOOKS AND HAR GRAY.
SO WE HAVE CONNECTIVITY FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, BUT IT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH NEAR THE BRIDGE.
IT WOULD BE BEHIND THE BRIDGE OVER THE COVE AS A SIDEWALK, AS ITS OWN PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, IF YOU WILL, AS AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
I'D BE VERY CURIOUS TO SEE THOSE PLANS.
YOU KNOW, IT WILL GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS AND YOU ARE ACTUALLY KEYED IN ON THE PUBLIC PROCESS EVENTS.
THERE SHOULD BE A PLAN IN, IN THE, UM, UH, CIP STORY MAP.
I JUST KNOW IT'S COME UP A NUMBER OF TIMES THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO SKIDS GOING THROUGH POTENTIALLY THEIR PROPERTY THAT I WALK THAT ALL THE TIME.
WE NEED A SIDEWALK SOLUTION THERE, WHICH IS WHY THEY CONTINUE TO BE EVERY YEAR UN PRIORITIZED AND UNFUNDED.
THE SKIDS COUNSEL HAS NO APPETITE.
QUITE HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW A PROJECT, ONCE THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE BY SUBSEQUENT COUNSEL, THERE'S NO INTEREST HOW A PROJECT COMES OFF THAT LIST.
DID WE MAKE IT A PRIORITY? THREE
I WANNA PIGGYBACK ON THAT SINCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SARAH RILEY HOOKS HOUSE.
THAT IS MY QUESTION WAS, UM, ARE WE DOING SOMETHING WITH THAT NOW? 'CAUSE IT SAYS FOR 2025 IT'S UNDERWAY CORRECTLY.
MONEY ALLOTTED, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT NOW MATTERS IS DOING THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS FOR THE COTTAGE ITSELF.
UH, WE HOPE TO HAVE THOSE DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR AND GET READY TO BID THAT SO THAT IT'S CONSTRUCTED IN, UH, 25.
THAT'S WHAT THE DOLLARS ARE IN THERE FOR, FOR THE COTTAGE, NOT NECESSARILY SITE DEVELOPMENT AND PARK DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE, WAS IT GONNA BE USED FOR A TOWN ARTISAN RESIDENCE IS WHAT I'VE HEARD.
KINDA ARTISAN RESIDENCE OR ART STUDIO KIND OF THING.
NOT, NOT SOMEBODY LIVING THERE, BUT BUT A SPACE FOR A PLACE TO BE OBSERVED AS THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR ARTWORK.
KEVIN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY? NO, I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE SURE TO CLARIFY, IT'S NOT THAT SOMEONE'S LIVING IN THERE.
IT'S, I SAY ARTISANS RESIDENCE.
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AN ARTIST LIVING THERE.THAT'S BEEN THE DISCUSSION SO FAR.
VERY SMALL, NOT A VERY LARGE SPACE.
THAT'S ALL QUESTION, UH, A PROCESS QUESTION MORE THAN ANYTHING.
UH, FOR THE LAND ACQUISITION, IT WAS A PRIORITY ONE LAST YEAR, AND IT HAS NO PRIORITY THIS YEAR.
BUT ON THE BUDGET SHEET YOU SHOWED 2.9 MILLION.
I THINK IT'S STILL A PRIORITY ONE.
I THINK IT WAS A, I MISSED A TYPO ABOUT NON-FUNDED, LET ME SEE.
NO, IT SHOWS STAFF PRIORITY OF DASH.
IT'S A PRIORITY ONE, BELIEVE ME.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY STAFF DOESN'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT IT.
THAT'S ALWAYS THE TOWN COUNCIL.
BUT DOES THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED? UPDATED, YEAH.
YEAH, WE SHOULD UPDATE THAT TO ONE.
HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT RECOMMENDING, UM, THAT THE CO PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES SKIDS GETS PULLED OFF OF IT AS WE SEND IT TO COUNCIL SAYING AS NOTHING'S EVER BEEN PULLED OFF? I'M KIND OF WONDERING, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK WE CAN, WE INCLUDE THAT IN OUR AND YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNSEL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THE 25 BUDGET.
WE CAN TOTALLY PUT THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT IF THE REST, THE COMMISSION MATTER REVISING THE RECOMMENDED MOTION.
KIM, I TOLD YOU YOU'D HAVE TO SPEAK
WELL, YOU HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN ME DO GONNA SAY SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE MICROPHONE, BUT I THINK WE CAN HEAR HER HOPEFULLY, HOWEVER WE CAN HEAR.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? YOU ALL SET? OKAY.
DOES SOMEONE WANNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? I MOVE THAT WE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION CONCURS WITH STAFF PRIORITIES AND RECOMMENDS TO COUNCIL, UM, THE EXACT SAME AS STAFF PRIORITY WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT TOWN COUNCIL CONSIDERS PULLING ITEM 33 COVE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES, SKIDS OFF OF THE CIP LIST AND WAIT, WAIT AND, AND CHANGING LAND ACQUISITION TO A STAFF PRIORITY ONE AND A PLANNING.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? DO I HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON MUNICIPAL CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 23, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE ARTICLE FIVE, DESIGN STANDARDS SECTION 5.4 WETLANDS AND SECTION FIVE POINT 10 STORMWATER AND ARTICLE NINE DEFINITIONS AND INTERPRETATIONS.
THIS IS THE FIRST CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS THE SECOND CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS THE THIRD AND FINAL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE UDO AMENDMENTS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
UH, THE AMENDMENTS THIS EVENING ARE STAFF INITIATED AND THEY RELATE TO, UM, SOME CHANGES TO OUR WETLANDS ORDINANCE AND OUR STORM WATER ORDINANCE.
THE, UM, THESE CHANGES ARE A RESULT, UH, UH, OF A SUPREME COURT DECISION FROM 2023 THAT, UH, LIMITS FEDERAL PROTECTIONS FOR WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES, UM, THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT.
UM, THESE, UH, CHANGES, UH, UNFORTUNATELY HAVE AN EFFECT ON OUR LOCAL WETLANDS.
SO THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OR SUGGESTING SOME CHANGES, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
UM, WE CAN GO OVER THOSE AMENDMENTS IN JUST A MOMENT.
SO THE LIMITATIONS, UH, THAT WERE CREATED BY THIS DECISION, UM, AS YOU SEE HERE, THESE THREE, UH, BULLET POINTS, UM, THE WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES HAVE, UH, CHANGE.
AND ONE OF THOSE, UH, CHANGES INCLUDES THAT THERE HAS TO BE A CONTI, A CONTINUOUS SURFACE CONNECTION TO NAVIGABLE WATERS.
AND PREVIOUSLY, I'M SORRY, LET ME GET THAT.
UM, PREVIOUSLY WETLANDS WERE DEFINED A BIT DIFFERENTLY, A BIT BROADER, AND THEY INCLUDED AREAS THAT WERE INUNDATED OR SATURATED BY SURFACE OR GROUNDWATER AT A FREQUENCY AND DURATION SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT, OR THAT UNDER A NORMAL CONDITIONS WOULD SUPPORT THE PREVALENCE OF VEGETATION, UM, THAT ARE ADAPTED FOR LIFE IN SATURATED CONDITIONS.
SO BASICALLY, SWAMPS, MARSHES, AND BOGS.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY THAT THAT NARROWER, UM, DEFINITION NOW PREVENTS, UM, SOME WETLANDS FROM HAVING THESE FEDERAL PROTECTIONS.
SO WHAT, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION IS MOVING FORWARD IS TO PROVIDE SOME PROTECTIONS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY FILLING, ANY DEVELOPMENT, ANY DRAINING, UH, OR DESTRUCTION OF OUR WETLANDS.
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SECTIONS OF OUR UDO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE AMENDED.UH, THE FIRST IS 5.4, SIMPLY PROVIDING A CROSS REFERENCE TO SECTION FIVE 10.
THIS IS WHERE THE MAIN CHANGES WOULD OCCUR.
AND THIS WOULD INCLUDE CREATING A 25 FOOT RIPARIAN BUFFER ADJACENT TO WETLANDS.
THOSE WETLANDS WOULD BE IDENTIFIED USING THE NATIONAL WETLAND INVENTORY MAP.
UM, AFTER SPEAKING TO, UH, OUR TOWN ATTORNEY, UH, WE DO WANNA MAKE A MINOR TWEAK TO THE REVISIONS OR THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
AND THAT INCLUDES IDENTIFYING THE ADOPTION DATE OF THE ORDINANCE, SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD AND BE ADOPTED BY TOWN COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN REFERENCE THE ACTUAL DATE THAT, THAT THE MAP THAT EXISTED ON THE DATE OF THE ADOPTION.
UH, AND WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT A DEFINITION OF WETLANDS ALSO BE PROVIDED.
THE, UH, REVIEW CRITERIA HAVE BEEN MET.
UM, SOME OF THEM DON'T APPLY, BUT THERE ARE SOME HERE THAT DO INCLUDING BEING CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE FOR STORM WATER.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTIONS TONIGHT COULD INCLUDE, UH, APPROVING AS, UH, SUBMITTED TO YOU APPROVING WITH AN, UH, UH, AN AMENDMENT WHICH WE ARE SUGGESTING OR DENYING THE AMENDMENT.
IF THIS MOVES FORWARD THIS EVENING WITH A RECOMMENDATION, IT WILL BE REVIEWED BY COUNSEL ON APRIL 9TH FOR A FIRST READING, AND THEN IT WILL GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING ON MAY 14TH.
AND THIS IS THE SUGGESTED MOTION HERE AGAIN, ADDING THE DATE OF ADOPTION, UH, IF TOWN COUNCIL SHOULD MAKE THAT DECISION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN BRING UP THE AMENDMENTS.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JUST ONE, UH, CHARLOTTE.
UM, I, I'VE READ ALL THIS BEFORE AND, AND WHAT STRUCK ME AS I WAS DRIVING HERE TONIGHT IS, UH, OPPOSITE HAMPTON LAKE ON LOUGHTON PARKWAY.
THERE'S A BIG AREA THAT'S ALL DEAD TREES AND IT'S JUST PLAIN GROUNDWATER THAT'S SITTING THERE.
AND IN THE DEFINITION WE TALK ABOUT NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES SUPPORT A PREVALENCE OF VEGETATION, TYPICALLY ADAPTED FOR SATURATED CONDITIONS.
DOES THAT PUT US AT RISK OF THAT GETTING AROUND THIS AS FAR AS BEING A WETLAND? AND I FEEL LIKE I MIGHT NEED TO REFER TO BILL, YOU GO TO THE MICROPHONE.
BILL, STATE YOUR NAME, STATE YOUR NAME.
UM, SIMPLE ANSWER IS NO, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED PART OF A WETLAND AREA.
UH, PART OF THE PROCESS WOULD BE TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS AND MAKE SURE THAT ANY WETLANDS ARE CURRENTLY IN THERE ARE, WE CAN EXCLUDE THEM FROM THE PROCESS.
SO THE DEFINITION HERE, TALKING ABOUT VEGETATION WOULDN'T HAVE BEARING ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
SO, I, I, IF I MAY, COMMISSIONER KO, I THINK THE, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF GLADLY, UH, RICHARD, RICHARD, BRUCE GROSS, AND BRUCE, UH, HERE ON FI, Y'ALL AS AN ATTORNEY.
SO, UH, WITHOUT GETTING INTO VERY, IT'S HARD TO GIVE A HYPOTHETICAL ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, VERY SPECIFIC PROPERTY, UH, BUT GENERATE, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT DEFINITION, IT'S THAT UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD SUPPORT THE LIFE.
SO, UH, THE WAY THAT THE WETLANDS DEFINITION, AND BOTH BILL AND KIM WERE KIND ENOUGH TO, UH, EDUCATE ME A BIT ON WETLANDS OVER THE YEARS, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, AND Y'ALL JUMP IN AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF WETLANDS, ONE OF WHICH IS A TEMPORARY WETLAND WHERE WE'LL HAVE A WETLAND APPEAR AND THEN DISAPPEAR, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY RAPIDLY THE COURSE OF SIX MONTHS OR SO VERSUS A MORE PERMANENT ONE.
SO THE DEFINITION IS INTENTIONALLY BROAD TO TRY TO ENCOMPASS AS MUCH OF THE WETLANDS IN THE PROTECTED AREA.
SIMPLEST WAY TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE IS AN EXISTING WETLAND IS LOOKING AT THE VEGETATION THAT IS SUPPORTED, WHAT TYPE OF VEGETATION'S GROWING THERE.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THEM, IT'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA BE FIXED.
IT COULD BE THAT IT, THAT VEGETATION'S NOT SUPPORTED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT THEN IT COULD COME BACK BECAUSE VEGETATION LAND, EVERYTHING CHANGES OVER TIME.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT IN THE PAST, HISTORICALLY IT MIGHT BE IN WETLAND, IT CAN CHANGE AND NOT BE NOT A WETLAND ANYMORE OR VICE VERSA.
SOMETHING THAT WASN'T A WETLAND CAN COME IN TO BE A WETLAND AND WE WILL LOOK AT THE FAUNA, WHAT, WHAT, UH, UH, KIND OF LIFE IT, ANIMALS, BUGS, ALL THAT GOES INTO IT.
THOSE THINGS ALL GET TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A WETLAND OR NOT, IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S WATER.
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THE DELINEATION? I'M SORRY.OH, IS THE TOWN DOING THE DELINEATION OR THE TERMINATION OF THE WETLAND? NO, THE TOWN IS NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
WE USE THE, THE, UH, INVENTORY, THE WETLAND INVENTORY MAP TO GIVE US A BASELINE ON IT.
IF THERE'S QUESTIONS WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING WOULD BE A WETLAND OR NOT, THAT'S WHEN, UH, SURVEYORS THAT ARE TRAINED TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT THAT, THEY CAN THEN MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER THAT WETLAND IS THERE OR NOT, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
THAT WAY IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY VERIFIED, AND I KNOW THAT Y'ALL ARE Y GIVEN YOUR EXPERIENCE, MOST OF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS.
UH, BUT FOR ANYBODY WHO MAY BE LISTENING ALONG AT HOME OR WHO MAY BE HERE TONIGHT AND MAYBE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, SO AS, AS WAS TOUCHED ON, THIS HAD TO DO WITH THE CLEAN WATER ACT.
SO THERE WAS A SUPREME COURT CASE THAT CHALLENGED THE REGULATORY AGENCY'S AUTHORITY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, REGULATE DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS THAT WEREN'T QUOTE WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES.
UH, AND BECAUSE OF THE DEF HOW THE SUPREME COURT DETERMINED A NARROW, VERY NARROW DEFINITION OF WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES, IT HAS LEFT MUNICIPALITIES, COUNTIES, AND STATES TO TRY TO REGULATE THOSE SMALLER WETLANDS AT A LOCAL LEVEL.
SO BLUFFTON IS, BLUFFTON DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD, UM, PROVIDE AS ROBUST PROTECTION AS WE WOULD HOPE.
AND SO I BELIEVE IT'S, THAT'S WHY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THIS.
OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO HAVE THESE, I THINK BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS,
SO IT IS JUST SOME, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T LEAVE OPEN, UH, ABUSE.
I THINK THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE, THE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT RICH SPOKE ABOUT ARE, ARE, THEY'RE RIGHT ON WHAT WE'RE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING ON.
THOSE WERE CREATED IN THE LAST 17 YEARS BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND THOSE TREES ARE DEAD AND THEY'RE DEAD OVER THE 17 YEARS THAT THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS AND BLUFFTON PARKWAY CREATED THOSE WETLANDS.
SO WE'RE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S WE'VE GOT TO JUMP ON BECAUSE THAT'S JUST A, A MINOR, JUST A, A SCOTIA AMOUNT OF WETLANDS THAT WE'VE CREATED FROM THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE CONTINUE TO CREATE.
YEAH, I, I'D BE INTERESTED, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS CLASSIFIED WET LENS OR NOT.
I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
IT WILL BE MM-HMM,
IS THERE PLACE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OR NO? OKAY.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, SO ONE, WANNA MAKE A, A RECOMMENDATIONS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE ORDINANCE CHAPTER 23, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AS SUBMITTED BY TOWN STAFF, INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT, THE ADDITION OF THE DATE OF ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE A REFERENCE DATE FOR THE NATIONAL WETLANDS INVENTORY MAP.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE, CORNERSTONE CHURCH CAMPUS REZONING REQUEST ZONING, MAP AMENDMENT, A REQUEST BY NATHAN STORY OF STORY ENGINEERING ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, CORNERSTONE CHURCH OF BLUFFTON AND LALEY MOLE FOR APPROVAL OF A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE PARCEL R 6 1 0 0 3 6 0 0 0 0 0 1 4.
FROM PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO AGRICULTURE AND RURAL, RURAL MIXED USE AND REZONE THE OTHER PARCEL FROM A PUD TO AGRICULTURE.
AND DAN IS GOING TO PRESENT, UM, BEFORE, UH, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS CORNERSTONE CHURCH CAMPUS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS NATHAN STORY OF STORY ENGINEERING ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE CORNERSTONE CHURCH OF BLUFFTON AND LOLLY ANN MOLL.
THEY'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF, OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
ZONING MAP TWO SUBJECT PARCELS, TOTAL 43.31 ACRES AND THE PARCELS ARE CONTIGUOUS AND LOCATED SOUTH OF MAY RIVER ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 600 FEET EAST OF
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STARDUST LANE.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE OFFICIALS ZONING MAP FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO REZONE THE TWO PARCELS FROM THE CURRENT PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING DESIGNATION TO A MIX OF AGRICULTURE, AGRICULTURAL AND RURAL MIXED USE ZONING DESIGNATIONS.
IT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
IT IS, UH, JUST EAST OF THE ROUNDABOUT AT OKT HIGHWAY AND, UH, MAY RIVER ROAD.
THERE'S AN AERIAL IN THE SAME LOCATION SHOWING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
SUBJECT PROPERTIES WERE INITIALLY APPROVED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY AND DEVELOPMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
ORDINANCE PROPERTIES CONTAINED CURRENTLY CONTAIN 98,000 SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING BUILDINGS, AND THAT INCLUDES AN EQUESTRIAN CENTER, DORMITORY BUILDING, MAINTENANCE FACILITIES, MULTIPLE CLASSROOMS, AND SEVERAL ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
ON APRIL 12TH, 2011, TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED THE MINDSTREAM ACADEMY PUD ZONING, MAP, AMENDMENT, AND INITIAL MASTER PLAN AS IT WAS PRESENTED AT THE TIME.
AND, UH, AS A REQUIREMENT OF THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, A PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP IS REQUIRED.
THAT WORKSHOP WAS HELD AT OUR LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON FEBRUARY 28TH, 2024.
THE BOTH PARCELS ARE CURRENTLY ZONED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, UM, AS A PART OF THE PUD APPROVAL, THE PHASE ONE, AND I DON'T KNOW, UH, I CAN'T GET THEM.
SEE IF I CAN MOVE AROUND HERE.
THE, UH, PHASE ONE IS CONSIDERED DEVELOPED AND THE REMAINING FOUR AREAS ACROSS THE PARCELS THAT ARE, THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE MAP, UH, THO THOSE ARE CONSIDERED ON DEVELOPED PARCELS.
SO I GOT A SLIDE FURTHER ON THAT.
SHOWS PERMITTED USES THOSE, THOSE WOULD BE PERMITTED USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED ON THE, ON DEVELOPED PARCELS.
I GOT A SLIDE THAT SHOWS A BETTER SHOT OF THOSE LOCATIONS SIDE BY SIDE.
UM, THE PHASE ONE IS CONSIDERED DEVELOPED WHERE NO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT CAN HAPPEN ON, ON THAT PROPERTY.
THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL HAS ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME ON IT, AND THAT'S MS. MO'S PROPERTY.
UH, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS REQUESTING THE FRONT SEVEN ACRES THAT FRONT ON MAY RIVER ROAD TO GO TO PROPOSED, UH, PROPOSED AS RURAL MIXED USE ZONE DISTRICT.
UH, THE MIDDLE PARCEL THAT I JUST MENTIONED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT WOULD GO TO AG AND THEN THE WHOLE BACK HALF, THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE STRUCTURES THAT I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED WOULD GO TO, UM, AG ZONING DISTRICT AS WELL.
AND, UH, THIS SLIDE SHOWS A COMPARISON ON YOUR LEFT IS HOW IT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED.
SO THOSE PUD AREAS IN RED ARE SHOWING AREAS THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED.
THE FORMER SLIDE THAT SHOWED DEVELOPABLE AREAS AND THAT GOES DEEP BACK INTO THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD ISOLATE THE RURAL MIXED USE, PERMITTED USES AND RURAL MIXED USE ZONING DESIGNATION JUST TO THE FRONT SEVEN ACRES WITH THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY GO INTO AGRICULTURAL.
UH, THIS IS JUST A COMPARISON BE BEAUFORT COUNTY LIST OF ZONINGS IS ON THE LEFT.
THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS ON THE RIGHT.
THEY'RE LISTED FROM TOP TO BOTTOM FROM LOWER INTENSITY, LOWER INTENSE USES TO HIGHER INTENSITY.
UM, THE THREE ARROWS POINTING TOWARDS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LIST REPRESENT THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE CURRENT PUD.
AND THE REQUEST IS GOING TO AGRICULTURAL AND RURAL MIXED USE ON THE RIGHT UNDER TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
THIS IS THIS, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THAT, THAT THE REQUESTED ZONING TAKES YOU TO A LOWER INTENSITY OF PERMITTED USES.
AND, UH, AND I KNOW EVERYBODY CANNOT SEE THIS, BUT, BUT WE'VE GOT, UH, THERE'S FOUR COLUMNS AND WE'VE, I'VE BROKEN IT UP INTO THREE SECTIONS, GETTING IT AS BIG AS I CAN ON ONE SLIDE.
THE FARTHEST LEFT COLUMN LISTS, THE LAND USES THE, THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE LIST OF USES AND IT'S BROKEN UP BY RESIDENTIAL USE, AGRICULTURE, COMMERCIAL LODGING, SO FORTH.
THE FIRST COLUMN NEXT TO THAT IS THE MINDSTREAM, PUD.
SO THAT LISTS THE CURRENTLY PERMITTED USES.
UM, P STANDS FOR PERMITTED, UH, C STANDS FOR CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED AND SE IS, IS PERMITTED BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
UH, THE NEXT COLUMN OVER IS AG.
THAT'S THE RECOMMENDED AG IS FOR ALL OF THE PO EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE SEVEN ACRES THAT FRONT OF MAY RIVER ROAD.
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WHEREVER YOU SEE RED TEXTS, THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE SOMETHING IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED, BUT IT'S BEING REMOVED BOTH, BUT BY THE REZONING, IT THAT PERMITTED USE IS NOT ALLOWED WITH IN AG OR IN RMU RULE MIXED USE.SO DON'T KNOW HOW WELL YOU CAN READ THIS, BUT, BUT, UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY WE'RE GOING FROM A LONGER LIST OF PERMITTED USES TO LESS PERMITTED USES.
AND WE'RE GOING, UH, AND ACROSS THE PROPERTY THE, THE SHORTER LIST OF PERMITTED USES ARE, ARE UPFRONT AND AG IS FOR THE BULK OF THE PROPERTY.
SO IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THAT A, IN ESSENCE, A DOWN ZONING THAT I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT.
UM, FOR NEXT STEPS GOING FORWARD, WE, WE HAD A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING IN JULY OF LAST YEAR.
PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP WAS LAST MONTH.
WE'RE CURRENTLY AT THE MARCH 27 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WHERE WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING AND A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
IT WOULD GO TO COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING ON APRIL NINE, AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO COUNCIL FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
AND, UH, SECOND READING AND FINAL SECOND AND FINAL READING ON MAY 14TH.
UH, THIS IS THE LIST OF CRITERIA FOR ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS, FINDING COMMISSION ACTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION.
IT IS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, OR RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND FINDS THAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 3, 4 3 OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE HAVE BEEN MET AND RECOMMENDS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
AND I HAVE THIS SUGGESTED MOTION THERE.
I CAN RETURN TO THAT, UH, BUT I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
OH, IT'S PUBLIC HEARING SO I HAVE TO DO THAT PART.
UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A REQUEST BY NATHAN STORY OF STORY ENGINEERING ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, CORNERSTONE CHURCH OF BLUFFTON AND MRS. MOLE FOR APPROVAL OF A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONED THE PARCELS THAT WE HAD LISTED FOR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO AGRICULTURE AND RURAL MIXED USE AND REZONE THE BACK PROPERTY FROM PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO AGRICULTURE.
THE FORMER PARCEL IS ADDRESSED, 11 GRASSY LANE CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 41.29 ACRES, AND THE LADDER PARCEL IS ADDRESSED.
21 LAKE LANE, CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 2.02 ACRES.
THIS IS THE FIRST CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
I AM, UH, A, UH, I LIVE ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY IN THE LANDINGS NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? UH, 2 84 WHEELHOUSE WAY TON IN THE LANDINGS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M A MEMBER OF CORNERSTONE CHURCH.
I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYONE INVOLVED THE TOWN, UH, THE NEIGHBORS AND THE CHURCH.
AND, UM, I RESPECTFULLY ENCOURAGE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND THE ZONING CHANGES AS PROPOSED.
I LIVE AT 180 WHEELHOUSE WAY, WHICH IMMEDIATELY IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
UM, I, UH, VERY STRONGLY FEEL THAT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT USE OF THIS PROPERTY, AND I DON'T THINK THE COMMISSION CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THE REZONING QUESTION UNTIL THEY HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY AS TO WHAT THE PLANS ARE TO BE DEVELOPED ON THIS PROPERTY.
AS, SO I'M GONNA SPEAK A LITTLE HYPOTHETICALLY AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THE EXISTING, UH, HORSE RINK AND TURN IT INTO A CHURCH, WHICH IS FINE.
OF COURSE, I'M CHRISTIAN AND THEY'RE GONNA, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD PROBABLY SEE ABOUT A THOUSAND PEOPLE, I WOULD GUESS.
SO A THOUSAND PEOPLE WOULD REQUIRE ABOUT SIX, 700 PARKING SPOTS.
SO WHERE ARE THOSE PARKING SPOTS GONNA GO? WOULD'VE BEEN MY QUESTION.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LAND, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GO RIGHT BEHIND OR A WHEELHOUSE WAY, WHICH MY PROPERTY IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO.
SO THAT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY PROPERTY VALUE.
UH, WHEN I MOVED TO BLUFFTON, I THOUGHT I WAS MOVING TO A SLICE OF HEAVEN.
I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GONNA MOVE TO A PLACE WHERE A PARKING LOT WAS GONNA BE RIGHT BEHIND MY HOME.
UM, I PAID $40,000 AS A, UM, LOT PREMIUM TO BUILD IN THE LANDINGS.
AND I DON'T THINK THE CHURCH HAS BEEN TRANSPARENT WHATSOEVER.
I THINK AT THE WORKSHOP IT WAS STATED THAT, UH, THEY SHOULD, UM, REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE WHOSE PROPERTY WOULD BE UH, IMPACTED.
AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE AT ALL.
AND IN FACT, JUST TONIGHT THERE'S BEEN NO TRANSPARENCY AS TO WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE.
SO IF THEY BUILD A PARKING LOT
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THERE, IF YOU LOOK FROM MY BACKYARD, IT'LL BE LOOKING DIRECTLY AT A PARKING LOT OF SIX OR 700 SPACES.AGAIN, IT'S HYPOTHETICAL 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE.
AND IF YOU GO UP TO AND YOU SAY, WELL BUILD A FENCE.
WELL, IF I GO UP TO MY BEDROOM, I'M NOW GONNA BE LOOKING OUT AT A PARKING LOT THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE A WALMART PARKING LOT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE LIGHTING THERE.
SO THAT LIGHTING WILL BE ON ALL EVENING.
IT'S ALSO, AS YOU SEE, VERY DEEP INTO THE WOODS FROM THAT MAIN ROAD.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE ALSO, HOW ARE YOU GONNA PROTECT THAT FROM A NEFARIOUS, UH, ACTIVITY THAT A PARKING LOT LOT LIKE THAT WOULD DEFINITELY ATTRACT.
SO, UM, I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I THINK TURN THE OTHER THING I JUST POINT OUT, I JUST SAW A SLIDE FOR THE FIRST TIME WHEN HE'S, WHEN THE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT IT WOULD REDUCE THE USAGE OF THAT PROPERTY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE USAGES, THAT WOULD BE REDUCED.
MOST OF 'EM ARE SINGLE FAMILY AND OTHER TYPES OF HOMES AND NOT A LARGE, UH, UM, UH, STRUCTURE THAT WOULD THEN ATTRACT, AS I SAID, UH, SIX, 700 PARKING SPOTS.
AND I WOULD JUST ASK THE COMMISSION, ASK A LOT MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE THEY, UH, CONSIDER THIS REZONING.
I LIVE AT 41 BUCK POINT ROAD HERE IN BLUFFTON.
UM, I'VE BEEN GOING TO CORNERSTONE FOR 25, 30 YEARS, UH, LONG TIME.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I'M TRYING NOT TO RESPOND IMMEDIATELY TO HIS CONCERNS, BUT FROM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THAT KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THAN I DO.
BUT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, WHAT I BELIEVE, UH, OUR INTENTION IS TO, UH, PRESERVE THE PROPERTY AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE WORKED WITH WITH AT THE CHURCH ARE BIG FAN OF TREES THERE.
UM, I THINK THE PARKING LOT RIGHT OVER HERE THAT'S GOT A LOT OF OAK TREE COVER AND HOW'S IMPERVIOUS? DID I GET THAT RIGHT? UM, SURFACE IS KIND OF THE DIRECTION THEY'RE HEADED.
I FORGET WHICH ONE IT IS, BUT THE PERUS, THERE WE GO.
THE ONE THAT WATER GOES THROUGH, UM,
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY COME IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY COME AND JUST CLEAR, CUT ALL THE TREES.
I LIVED IN BLUFFTON PARK FOR A LONG TIME, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID OVER THERE.
WE HAD NO TREES ON OUR PROPERTY EXCEPT THE ONES THAT WERE PLANTED AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT WAS COMPLETED.
WE, PEOPLE AREN'T PARKING FOR MORE THAN TWO HOURS TO GO TO CHURCH.
AND, UM, SO I DON'T THINK THE FACT THAT STUFF'S FALLING ON PEOPLE'S CAR IS A BIG CONCERN.
I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO LEAVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK I HEARD 75%, BUT I'LL LET THEM SPEAK TO THAT, THAT WE'RE LEAVING.
UM, THERE'S NO PLANS FOR ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION OF NEW BUILDINGS IN THAT, UM, AGRICULTURAL ZONE THAT I'M AWARE OF.
UH, AGAIN, I'LL LET THE, UH, PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON THIS ANSWER THAT AND, UM, THE IN, IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF TOTAL, UM, WE'RE ONLY COM UH, WELL, AND SO THAT'S A STRUCTURE THAT'S UH, JUST A ROOF RIGHT NOW TO OPEN AIR ROOF STRUCTURE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE ENCLOSED THERE, UM, DEVELOPING HALF OF THAT BUILDING STRUCTURE.
IT IS MASSIVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
THEY'RE ONLY, UM, ENCLOSING HALF OF IT FOR THE CHURCH.
I THINK IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE 600 TO 700 RESIDENTS.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PARKING SPACES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LIGHTING CONCERN IS OR, UM, PLAN IS.
I THINK THERE, IT'S CURRENTLY A DIRT ROAD.
I THINK THERE IS A PLAN TO DO SOME SORT OF ROAD AGAIN.
I'LL LET THEM SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A PAVED ROAD.
UM, AND SO ANYHOW, UH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE SOLD RECENTLY THE PROPERTY IN THE CORNERSTONE CHURCH TO THE A ME CHURCH NEXT DOOR.
UH, WE'VE GOT THREE YEARS OF A LEASE BACK.
WE'RE ALREADY A YEAR INTO THAT THREE YEARS BECAUSE I OWN, UH, CORNER PER IN BLUFFTON.
AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS A FEW TIMES.
I KNOW HOW MUCH
THERE'S NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO THIS IS A SECOND CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THIS IS THE THIRD AND FINAL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR CORNERSTONE CHURCH CAMPUS REZONING REQUEST.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WOULD THE APPLICANT, EXCUSE ME, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? UM, YES.
HEY, NATHAN STIR, UM, JURY ENGINEERING.
I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.
JASON GREEN, HE'S WITH THE CHURCH.
UM, IS THERE A COMMENT YOU WANTED
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TO MAKE? OH, YEAH, NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M HERE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF CORNERSTONE CHURCH, SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE PASTOR AND JUST HERE TO HEAR COMMENTS AND CONCERNS.UM, AND ALSO, UH, WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT WE SHOULD HOLD A COMMUNITY MEETING, WHICH WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN.
AND WE'LL GET A NOTIFICATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY ON APRIL THE EIGHTH, MONDAY, APRIL THE EIGHTH OUT AT THE PROPERTY, JUST SO FOLKS CAN GET OUT AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, SO, UM, TO ADDRESS SOME OF MR. CHICK'S COMMENTS HERE, RIGHT, UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA GO ON THE FRONT YET, SO WE CAN'T PROPOSE ANYTHING YET.
THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS IN TERMS OF COORDINATION WITH DOT BUFORD JASPER ON POTENTIAL JOINT VENTURES WITH ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
NATHAN, CAN YOU SPEAK ON THE MIC? UM, POTENTIAL JOINT VENTURES WITH PROPERTY OWNERS ON HOW THINGS ARE GONNA LINE UP GETTING INFRAS STRUCTURE BACK TO THE PROPERTY.
SO IT'S, IT, WE CAN'T PRESENT A PLAN RIGHT NOW AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE FUTURE.
UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO LOCK IN USES THAT WE FEEL ARE APPROPRIATE BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON UDO, WHICH WILL KIND OF MIRROR BUT DROP THE INTENSITY OF THE OVERALL GOVERNMENT AS OF RIGHT NOW.
IF THE CHURCH WANTED TO MOVE SOME DEVELOPABLE AREA AROUND, THEY COULD PUT A 40,000 SQUARE FOOT GROCERY STORE ON THIS PROPERTY IF THEY WANT TO.
THANK, CAN YOU ADDRESS US? OH, SORRY.
SO IT IS A DOWN ZONING AND THEY ARE IN EVERY BIT TRYING TO PROTECT, ESPECIALLY THE BACK PIECE FROM ANY HEAVY DUTY, LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT.
WHEN YOU SAY THE BACK PIECE, WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO? THE AGRICULTURE, THE PIECE WHERE ZONING IS AGRICULTURE.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE PARKING LOT, RIGHT, RIGHT BEHIND THE, UM, THE HOMES ALONG WHEELHOUSE WAY.
UM, IF YOU SEE KIND OF THE SECOND PUD ZONING, UM, UP FROM THE SOUTH, THAT'S WHERE OUR CURRENT PARKING LOT IS PLANNED.
WE HAVE 264 PERVIOUS PARKING SPACES WE'RE PUTTING THERE.
WE'RE GONNA TREAT IT ALL WITH STORM WATER TO BE CURRENT WITH.
SO LOCAL REQUIREMENTS, UM, IN TERMS OF LIGHTING, WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT FAR.
WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THIS REZONING BEFORE WE CAN REALLY DIVE IN MUCH FURTHER INTO THE DETAIL DESIGN OF THINGS.
BUT, UM, WE ARE IN, IN YOUR, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, DO YOU THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD EXPERIENCE IN THIS PARTICULAR USE AS FAR AS THE PARKING LOT LIGHTING, CAN THAT BE MORE PEDESTRIAN VERSUS SOME OF THOSE LARGER? IT CAN.
I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP TO GET, TO HELP HIM UNDERSTAND WHAT LIGHTING MEANS.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE COMMISSION'S GOING.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE APPLICANT'S GOING.
UH, IT'S MY ROLE AND MY MY DUTY TO JUMP IN HERE.
WE PREFER, AGAIN, FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY BE WATCHING AND FOR, FOR THE COMMISSION NIGHT.
SO WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS A REZONING.
UH, REZONING IS REALLY, AT ITS SIMPLEST, IT'S GONNA BE CHANGING THE UNDERLYING ZONING DESIGNATION.
IT'S NOT GONNA GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED THERE.
IT'S GONNA GIVE YOU THAT LIST OF PARTICULAR USES AND WHAT SORT OF DENSITIES OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS CAN GO FOR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
CURRENTLY IT'S PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHICH HAS, DEPENDING ON WHICH PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IT IS, WE'LL HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT USES THAT ARE PERMITTED.
UH, WHEN TRYING TO CONSIDER THIS REZONING APPLICATION, THOUGH WE, NEITHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOR THE TOWN COUNCIL CAN GET INTO EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT THERE, WHAT SIZE, WHAT SORT OF, UM, PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE GONNA BE MET, WHAT SORT OF USES WILL BE PERMITTED VERSUS WHAT, WHAT WALKED.
THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF QUESTIONS THAT IF, IF, IF IT FALLS WITHIN THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION AND IT MEETS THE, THE CRITERIA AND THEN IT'S UP FOR Y'ALL'S, IT'S UP FOR Y'ALL TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
UH, BUT ACCORDING TO STAFF, AND IT'S AGAIN, THEY, THEY'VE PROVIDED THE RECORDS, BUT IT IS FOR AG IS A SUBSTANTIAL DOWN ZONING FROM WHAT WOULD CURRENTLY BE PERMITTED TO BE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY UNDER THE PUD DESIGNATION.
UH, AG IS THE SECOND LEAST INTENSIVE, UH, ZONING CLASSIFICATION IN THE TOWNS UDO AND THEN, UH, THE RMU RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE, WHICH IS ANOTHER LOW DENSITY SORT OF CLASSIFICATION.
SO, UM, I, I KNOW IT'S NOT A SATISFYING ANSWER, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STEERING THE DIRECT THE CONVERSATION IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
CAN I REPHRASE YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO WELL, NO, HELP BRIDGE A GAP AND REALIZE THAT THERE ARE GONNA BE OPTIONS.
I MEAN, WE WE'RE NOT MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.
NOW THE QUESTION THAT CAN BE ASKED IS LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE PUD VERSUS LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS UNDER AGRICULTURAL.
IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE? THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE UGDO REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL REQUIREMENTS,
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PARKING, LANDSCAPING, UH, STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS, BUILDING TYPE LOT TYPE, ALL THAT.ALL THAT'S REGULATED UNDER THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE WOULD THEN HAVE TO BE MET, WHICH IS STRICTER THAN THE PUD REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE THERE.
I COULDN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UM, NO, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT THE PUD HAS A CONVOLUTED ITEMS, UM, THAT ARE SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND.
UH, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED AS BEEN INDICATED UP HERE.
UM, SO AGAIN, WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE U ON NORTH SIDE, THE USE.
SO BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE, THERE ARE MORE UNKNOWNS WITH THE PUD THAN THERE ARE WITH THE DOWN ZONING OF THE AGRICULTURE.
AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS CLEAR.
IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR DECISION THAT YOU'RE NOT MAKING YOUR DECISION ON WELL, WHAT LIGHTING CAN BE ALLOWED? WHAT PARKING CAN BE ALLOWED IS IMPERVIOUS OR IMPERVIOUS OR IF IT'S EVEN A CHURCH.
AND, AND LET ME JUST SAY I THANK YOU, UH, RICHARDSON FOR SAYING THAT FOR ME, WHAT IT DOES IS IT MAKES MORE IMPORTANT THE DISCUSSION YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ON APRIL 8TH WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO THERE COULD BE SOME GIVE AND TAKE ABOUT WHATEVER IT IS GONNA BE, WHETHER IT'S TREES OR LIGHTS OR PARKING SPACES.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY IMPORTANT MEETING TO HAVE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S SO, AND, AND, AND IF I COULD, JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, YOU CAN'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
NEIGHBORS ARE BLUNT AS A WHOLE.
YES, AND I'M, I MEAN, I I'M GONNA BE BLUNT THIS IN, IN IN WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.
IT'S NOT AS MUCH ABOUT WHO THE APPLICANT IS AND WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING THEY PLAN ON DOING WITH IT AT THIS POINT.
BECAUSE WE WILL SEE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, WE CAN ADDRESS BUFFERS, WE CAN ADDRESS LIGHTING, WE CAN ADDRESS PERVIOUS, WE CAN ADDRESS ALL THAT FUTURE.
THIS IS IN MY MIND, CAN WE CONTROL AND LIMIT DEVELOPMENT MORE WITH THE NEW ZONING VERSUS THE CURRENT ZONING.
AND WHAT I'M LOOKING AT GUYS, UM, IF WE GO UNDER THE UDO, THAT KICKS IN THE TREE COVER OF 75% ON THE LOT THAT IS NOT THERE.
NOW THAT KICKS IN, UM, UH, REQUIREMENTS LIKE KEVIN WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, THAT REMOVES, UM, A USE THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW COULD BECOME ANOTHER HEWITT OAKS.
IT COULD HAVE ANOTHER STAGE, IT COULD HAVE EVENTS, IT COULD HAVE LIVE MUSIC ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT, WELL TILL 10.
UM, IT REMOVES THAT CAPABILITY TO DO THAT.
IT REMOVES THE CAPABILITY TO PUT A LARGE STANDALONE PARKING LOT IN THERE.
IT REMOVES THE CAPABILITY FOR LIGHT ASSEMBLY AND FABRICATION.
UM, RECREATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.
IT REMOVES THE ABILITY TO CLEAR CUT, WHICH THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THEY CAN GO IN THAT LOT TOMORROW AND CLEAR CUT IT UNDER THAT PUD ACCORDING TO THE DOCUMENTS THE TOWN LOOKED UP.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE OFFICIALLY INTO THE DISCUSSION PART, BUT, WELL, I MEAN, I MEAN, I JUST DON'T, YEAH, I MEAN, WE CAN DISCUSS IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR NATHAN AND I LIKE MAKING HIM STAND UP.
I KNOW IT'S, AND MAKE THIS WAY.
I JUST, I JUST LOOK AT THIS GUYS AND I SEE SO MUCH THAT CAN GO SIDEWAYS THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, FEELINGS, CONCERNS? WELL THEN IF YOU WANNA LEAVE IT AT THAT, CHARLIE, YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION, WE HAS A SUGGESTED MOTION.
I MOVE THAT PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CORNERSTONE CHURCH CAMPUS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AS SUBMITTED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
Y'ALL AREN'T OFF THE HOOK WHEN IT COMES BACK FOR, WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING FOR A LOT ALONG, ESPECIALLY ALONG WHEELHOUSE WAY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT FROM TOWN STAFF? NO.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO, MATT, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT IT? ALL RIGHT.