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[1. CALL TO ORDER]
GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY, AND WELCOME TO THE VEHICLE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING OF MARCH, 2024.WILL WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? SHANNON? CRAIG GORDON.
BRIAN IS NO LONGER ON THE COMMITTEE.
BRIAN, I'M GONNA TURN TO YOU AND LET YOU INTRODUCE CHRIS FOR US.
UM, SO WANTED TO INTRODUCE CHRIS TO JULIO COOK, WHO IS GONNA BE, UH, FACILITATING THE MEETING TODAY.
SHE IS OUR NEW BUSINESS MANAGER IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
SO CHRIS COMES TO US FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHERE SHE SPENT THE LAST THREE YEARS HELPING WITH THE FINANCIAL ROLES OVER THERE.
SHE HAS EXPERIENCED RUNNING SEVERAL COMMITTEES AND UM, COUNCIL COMMISSIONS, SO WE ARE HAPPY TO BE HAVE HER ON THE BOARD.
SHE'S GONNA BE A GREAT ADDITION.
SO, UH, THANK YOU CHRIS AND LOVELY WELCOME ON BOARD.
IT'S ALSO CUSTOMARY TO GO AROUND TO THE ROOM AND DO INTRODUCTION.
SO CHRIS, WE'LL START WITH YOU AND GO AROUND TO THE OFFICE ASIDE.
JULIAN COOK, I NEW BUSINESS MANAGER ENGINEERING AND WE'RE IN CABERNET COUNTY COUNCIL OF DISTRICT SIX, THE ASSIGNED TO MISS PAULA BROWN COUNTY DISTRICT, RUST TRANSPORTATION, ROCK CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, MR. TURNER WITH THE A FT ENGINEER, MIKE T RANCE, OR ELIZABETH SANDERS TT FUTURE MAINTENANCE.
APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE.
PLEASE RISE TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE NINE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION, UNDERG GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE OVERALL.
[3. PUBLIC COMMENT]
DESIRES TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON OUR AGENDA ITEMS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON.[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - January 17, 2024]
APPROVAL.MINUTES FOR JANUARY THE 17TH, 2024.
THEY'VE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO YOU.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS OR CORRECTIONS? HEARING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
[5. OLD BUSINESS]
US 17.THEY HAVE PAGE AND PULLED UP PATCHING ON THAT CONTRACT.
UM, 1 29 ALLS CAUSEWAY ALSO, UH, SIGNS ARE UNCOVER.
SO GREAT TIME FOR US ON MAINTENANCE.
UH, BUT THAT IS UNDER, THAT WILL BE STARTING SOON AS WELL YET.
BUT WE, LET'S DO YOU A BOUNDARY STREET HERITAGE.
IT HELPS MINE SHOWS THAT YOU WANTED TO COME AROUND TO LOOK AT MY SCREEN SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY, OKAY.
THE STREET MINE'S NOT CUT OFF.
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IS IT? OKAY.UM, E STREET WAS REMOVED FROM THIS, UM, FOR DEPTHS, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT'S SHOWING ON THERE.
UM, BUT E STREET WAS REMOVED BECAUSE OF THE, UM, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN THE CITY OF
UM, SO THAT ONE BE REMOVED FROM THERE.
BUT LAIER STREETS, UH, PALMETTO STREET, SPECTACLE STREET LIVE OAK AND SAM HILL'S AS IN JASPER.
SO THAT WAS ALSO LIVE OAK AND SAM'S CAN BE REMOVED FROM THAT LIST AS WELL SEE.
COMPLETION DATES THEY'VE GIVEN FOR, UM, APRIL 30TH, 2024.
I'VE ALSO SEEN A PULLED UP PATCH MARKED DOWN ON THIS ROAD.
SO, UM, IT'S IMMINENT AS WELL.
IT'S CONNECTED WITH ALL'S CAUSEWAY AND, UM, ANOTHER PROJECT.
UH, I, UH, LANCE IN, THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER, SO THEY'RE, ANY, ANY DAY WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE CONTRACTOR ON WINDOWS, THEY'RE GONNA GET STARTED.
AND SIDEWALK AND CROSSWALK, THIS IS ON NEWCASTLE, THIS IS ON US, 21 BUSINESS IN NEWCASTLE NEXT TO THE USCB APARTMENTS.
LOOKS LIKE A NEW CROSSWALK WILL BE INSTALLED FOR THAT INTERSECTION.
AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF PAVE PARKINGS GOING ON.
WE SHOULD SEE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS WITH, WITH COUNTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE CONTRACTS COMING UP, NOT JUST THIS ONE.
AND IT'S NOT FROM MAINTENANCE SIDE.
SO, UM, THESE ARE ALL, UM, INDIVIDUAL ROUTES, BUT THAT VERY DETAILED.
THAT'S THE EVERYTHING FROM CENTER ITEMS TO WHAT? YEAH, ALL MARKINGS.
IT COULD BE ARROWS, UM, CROSSWALKS, STOP BARS.
UM, AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET DONE WITH THE FUNDING, ANYTHING FOUND DEFICIENT OR, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IN OR, UM, SUBSTANTIAL AND CONCRETE, UH, SIX YEAR CYCLE OF PAPER MARKINGS.
AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR THE UPDATES.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN COUNCIL, I HOPE YOU'RE ALL WELL.
UH, JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON FEW ROADS.
UH, DIRT ROAD 53, UH, RAINBOW ROAD IS COMPLETE.
UH, TWICKINGHAM, UH, WILL START, UH, AFTER NORTHVIEW IS FINISHED.
UH, NORTHVIEW ROAD IS IN PROCESS, UH, RIGHT NOW AND IS EXPECTED TO COMPLETE AROUND THE END OF APRIL, UH, DIRT ROAD 54, UH, FRANCIS JONES CHURCH ROAD AND SCHOOL ROAD.
ALL THESE ROADS ARE COMPLETE DIRT ROAD 55.
UH, THIS ONE MR. GLOVER ASKED ABOUT, UH, JAMES D. WASHINGTON.
A FEW MEETINGS BACK ALONG WITH, UH, LEO GREEN DOLPHIN WATCH.
UH, THESE ROADS ARE OUT FOR BID NOW AND, UH, THESE BIDS ARE DUE MARCH 21ST, 55.
UH, WE'LL GO ON TO THIS, THE, UH, YEAR SIX RESURFACING.
UM, THESE ROADS ARE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON DIRT ROAD PAVING? OKAY, SORRY ABOUT, THAT'S MOVE ON TO RESURFACING.
RESURFACING, UH, THESE ROADS ARE COMPLETE.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO FINISH THE PUNCH LIST.
UH, BENTON FIELD, UH, PUBLIC WORKS IS, UM, UH, GONNA BE PAYING $32,000 TOWARDS THAT PROJECT.
THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
PUBLIC WORKS, UM, IS DONATING $32,000 TOWARDS THE PAVING COSTS FOR BENTON FIELD BECAUSE IT HADN'T BEEN TAKEN CARE OF BY THEM.
AND WE ALSO, THAT LAST TIME, LAST MEETING, WE, UM, GAVE A LETTER OF APPRECIATION TO THE, UH, CONCRETE COMPANY THAT PROVIDED ALL THE CONCRETE TO, TO FIX THE ROADS AND APPROACHES AND SO ON WITH IT.
UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO SOME OF THE, UH, THE OTHER PRESERVATION.
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UH, THESE ROADS ARE COMPLETE AS WELL.WE'RE WORKING WITH THE, UH, CONTRACTOR TO PUT THOSE PUNCH LISTS.
UH, YEAR SIX RE REJUVENATOR, ALL THOSE ROADS ARE COMPLETE.
WHAT ABOUT YEAR SEVEN? YEAR SEVEN, UM, THE, UH, RESURFACING, UM, WE HAVE A PO ON THE, ON THE PRE AND WE HAVE A PO AND THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING AS SET FOR MARCH 18TH.
I'M GOING TO, YOU GOT THE DOLLARS THERE.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER, SO YOU CAN HAVE, YOU HAVE THE SLIDES TO LOOK AT.
IT WAS ABOUT ALL TOTAL BY $6 MILLION.
IS THAT SIX GRAND? 6 MILLION BRIAN TOTAL FOR, YEAH, I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT FIVE.
I HAVE YEAR, UM, TOTAL FOR THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM IS RIGHT UNDER FIVE IS ABOUT 4.5 YEAR SEVEN, SO YEAR AND I BELIEVE, UH, YEAR SEVEN PRESERVATION.
UM, WE HAVE A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THE MARCH 14TH.
I DO NOT HAVE A START DATE ON THAT YET.
AND THEN, UH, YEAR SEVEN REJUVENATOR, UH, WE HAD THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING ON MARCH 5TH.
UH, THE EXPECTED START DATE ON THAT IS APRIL 1ST, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT SEVEN TO 10 DAYS TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT.
NEXT SLIDE IS THE, UH, THE, UH, YEAR SEVEN, UH, CONTRACTS 5.1 MILLION.
I'M SORRY THAT 5.1 INCLUDES THE PATCHING.
THAT'S WHERE THE, THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS, IS IS THERE A PLAN TO LOOK AT THAT SEVEN YEAR PROGRAM AND SAY THAT BOUGHT US SO MANY YEARS AND WHAT THAT DEFERRED AS FAR AS NOT HAVING TO DO THE BIG FIX SOONER? YOU KNOW, THE, BASICALLY THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
AND WHEN THEY COME UP WITH THESE, UH, PAVEMENT PREP PAVEMENT PLANS, THEY LOOK AT IT AND I MEAN, EACH OF THESE DIFFERENT TREATMENTS IS GOING HAVE AN EXTENDED LIFE EXPECTANCY.
I MEAN, MICRO SERVICING, WHICH WE'RE DOING A LOT OF IS GENERALLY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.
UM, LIFE EXP DEPENDANCY, THE REJUVENATOR, WHICH WE DO EVERY YEAR GENERALLY ADDS ABOUT THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
UM, SO EACH OF THESE DIFFERENT TREATMENTS HAS AN ACCEPTED, UM, EXTENSION OF LIFE TO IT.
UM, BUT THAT IS PART OF WHEN THEY'RE DOING PAVEMENT PRESERVATION PLANS, THAT GOES INTO THE CALCULATION.
UM, AND EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE, NEED TO BE A LARGE SCALE RECONSTRUCTION.
UM, WITH LOW VOLUME ROADS, WE CAN EXTEND THE LIFE A GOOD BIT.
BUT LIKE ON BLUFFTON PARKWAY WHERE WE'RE GOING THROUGH PATCHING NOW, UM, ONE THING THAT WE HAVE ASKED, UM, RICHARD AND HIS GROUP TO DO WHEN THEY LOOKED AT IT, WAS COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF, UH, PRESERVATION PLAN FOR, FOR BLUFFTON PARKWAY, UM, IN BUCK WALKER.
AND I THINK WE CAME UP WITH KIND OF A 10 YEAR KIND OF PLAN FROM A FULLY NEW RESURFACE TO AFTER X AMOUNT OF YEARS LOOK AT DOING THIS AND THEN AFTER X AMOUNT MORE DO THIS.
SO WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT SOME OF THAT.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE EXPECTATION, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS NOW THAT WE'VE DONE IT, IS THERE GONNA BE AN ATTEMPT TO SAY, WE DID THIS, WE SPENT THIS MUCH MONEY OVER THIS PERIOD OF TIME, AND AS A RESULT WE THINK WE'VE SAVED JUST I JUST WE DID.
TO HELP YOU TO GIVE YOU THE HISTORY.
UM, THE PLAN IS SET UP, UH, TO DO A FIVE YEAR PLAN.
AT THE END, AT THE END OF FOUR YEARS, WE HIRE AN ENGINEERING FIRM.
AND SO LAST YEAR AT YEAR FOUR, AFTER E DID THAT EVALUATION OKAY.
OF WHAT WE HAD DONE IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS, WE'LL DO THE SAME AT YEAR EIGHT TO YEAR NINE, WHENEVER WE HIRE AN ENGINEERING FIRM AGAIN TO DO OUR NEXT FIVE YEAR PROGRAM.
THAT WAY WE WILL HAVE SOMEBODY TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE CERTAIN, AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THE LIFE EXPECTANCIES OF THE ROADS ARE NOMINAL DEBATES UPON THE THING, THE TYPE OF OF TRAFFIC OR TYPE OF A REJUVENATOR TYPE OF PRODUCT WE'RE USING ON IT.
AND THAT LIFE EXPECTANCY IS BASICALLY TIED INTO THE A DT, HOW MUCH VOLUME OF TRAFFIC IS GETTING RIGHT.
SO SOME OF THE LOWER VOLUME ROADS STUFF WE'RE DOING COULD LAST 15 OR MORE YEARS.
BUT SOME OF THE HIGHER TRAFFIC ROADS, UM, WE PUT MICRO SURFACE ON BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND PORTION OF LEFT AND PARKWAY, I'M SURE IT EXTENDED THE LIFE MORE THAN FIVE YEARS, UH, ON IT.
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BLUFFTON PARKWAY WAS THE SECTION THAT WAS THE FIRST THAT WAS BUILT.IT HAD EXCEEDED ITS LIFE EXPECTANCY, UH, BY, WITH VOLUME OF TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING BY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.
I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WORE OUT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, JUST WAS THE RIGHT WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.
AND IN, BUT THE TRAFFIC VOLUME GOT THERE FASTER THAN WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED AS WELL.
SO YES, WE WILL LOOK AT IT WHEN WE HIRE AN ENGINEER TO DO OUR NEXT FIVE YEAR PROGRAM.
TO LOOK BACK TO SEE ALL THE THINGS WE'RE DOING, BUT ALL THE THINGS WE'RE DOING ARE STATE APPROVED.
SO WE'RE NOT OUT THERE IN LEFT FIELD.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS REJUVENATOR AND THEY'VE STARTED TO COME AROUND ON REJUVENATOR AS WELL, THE, UH, RECTAL MINE.
SO, AND I'LL SAY THE SUPPORT, IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THAT DATA.
UM, INITIALLY WE'VE ONLY GONE THROUGH ONE CYCLE, UM, TWO COLLECTIONS AND WE'VE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ROADS HAVE BEEN TREATED, UM, WHAT THEY INCREASE IN THEIR PQI WAS COMPARED TO THE ROADS THAT NOTHING WAS DONE.
UM, BUT THE MORE CYCLES YOU GO THROUGH AND THE LONGER YOU HAVE TO COLLECT DATA, THE BETTER CONCLUSIONS YOU CAN DRAW.
SO WITH ONLY HAVING TWO COLLECTIONS, I MEAN, WE CAN DRAW SOME BEGINNING CONCLUSIONS, BUT WITH EACH, UM, SUBSEQUENT COLLECTION, WE'LL GET MORE AND BE ABLE TO DRAW BETTER CONCLUSIONS.
IS THAT MIKE AT THE DAAS? CAN IT BE HOT? I'M REALLY HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING THE PRESENTATIONS.
UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? IS THAT BETTER? I CAN, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S MY AGE.
I DON'T THINK THAT I'M A LITTLE BIT YOUNGER THAN YOU AND I CAN'T HEAR AND I HAVE A GOOD HEARING.
I'LL TRY TO BE A LITTLE BIT LOUDER.
SO I GUESS NEXT IS JARED'S UPDATES, WHICH HE WAS UNVEIL UNAVAILABLE TO MAKE IT, SO HE ASKED ME TO FILL IN TODAY.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THE TRIANGLE AND THE ONE 70 SHORT TERM PROJECTS.
UM, THERE'S NOT MUCH TO UPDATE ON THE TRIANGLE, BUT ON THE ONE 70 SHORT TERM, UM, THE RESURFACING AND THE THERMOPLASTIC STRIPING IS COMPLETE AT ARGENT ROAD IN 4 62 AT ARGENT, THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, WE MADE A DUAL LEFT TURNING LEFT ONTO ONE 70.
A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S DUAL LEFT, SO WE ARE GOING TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE TO, UH, VISUALLY SHOW THAT.
SO HOPEFULLY IT WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE WITH, UM, THE BETTER TRAFFIC FLOW.
WE HAVE ALSO, UH, HAS THE SAME CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT THE TIMINGS OF THOSE TWO, UM, SIGNALS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO REDUCE CONGESTION FURTHER, UM, ON THE SIGNAL AT OLD FIELD, WE'RE WORKING, WORKING WITH THE DOT IN HARDY V RIGHT NOW TO, UM, WORK THROUGH GETTING PERMITS SO WE CAN GET THAT INSTALLED.
UM, MOVING ON TO FURTHER DOWN THE 1 72 78 INTERCHANGE.
UM, PIPE IN BOXES IS SUPPOSED TO GETTING DELIVERED LATER ON THIS WEEK, AND THEN HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS WE'LL SEE DIRT MOVING OUT THERE AND THEM GETTING TO WORK.
UM, AND THEN WITH THE GOAL IS TO START PAVING ON 2 78 IN MAY.
UM, SO THAT'S THE SHORT TERM ONE 70 PROJECTS.
UM, AND THEN WAS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE? YES, SIR.
IS, IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT A PRESENTATION COULD BE MADE TO THE SUN CITY FOLKS? I KEEP GETTING ASKED ABOUT THE ONE 70 PROJECT, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO, UM, WHAT'S THAT OLDFIELD BOULEVARD OR WHATEVER OLDFIELD, THAT PARTICULAR END OF IT.
YEAH, I MEAN, THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT SECTION OF ROAD AND YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE THE, THE PLANS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE STILL CURRENT OR WHATEVER.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SUITED FOR SUN CITY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT SECTION AT THE INTERCHANGE AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THERE AND ALL ALSO THE TURNAROUNDS OR WHATEVER, I THINK WOULD REALLY BE BENEFICIAL.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, SUN CITY, UH, LOW COUNTRY HAPPENINGS HAS HAD JARED SPEED, NORTH CURRENTS HAS HAD JARED SPEAK.
OTHER GROUPS HAVE HAD JARED SPEAK ON THE ONE 70 TRIANGLE.
AND WE HAVE MR. GORDON COMING IN THIS MONTH, NEXT MONTH, APRIL NEXT MONTH.
BUT ALSO ALL THOSE PRESENTATIONS ARE ON YOUTUBE.
SO EVERY TIME SOMEBODY ASKS ME, I SEND THEM TO YOUTUBE, I WILL SEND THEM THERE BECAUSE JARED'S ON THERE WITH HIS SMILEY FACE.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE 2 78 CORRIDOR.
AND I SPOKE TO JARED ABOUT THAT ONE EARLIER, AND AS OF NOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE STILL IN A HOLDING PATTERN WITH
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NO NEW UPDATES ON THAT ONE.I HAVE PROMISED IN THE PAST NOT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I, I CAN'T LET THIS CONTINUE TO GO.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S GETTING TOTALLY RIDICULOUS.
WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THESE MILESTONES? I THOUGHT JANUARY THE 31ST WAS SOME KIND OF DROP DEAD DATE OR WHATEVER.
I MEAN, WHAT'S GOING ON? I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR AND IF WE'RE WAITING FOR THE TOWN TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO, WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR? YEAH, I, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS FOR THAT.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, WHEN I ASKED EARLIER THAT I WAS TOLD THERE'S NO NEW UPDATES.
BUT I'LL MAKE SURE TO GET WITH JARED AND GET YOU THE INFO.
MOST UPTODATE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE, ARE WE GONNA BUILD IT? MAYBE
THEY HAD A DROP DEAD DATE OF JANUARY 31.
THEY'RE WAITING FOR THEIR INDEPENDENT STUDY, WHICH RUMOR IS, IS GONNA BE APRIL, MAY A HARD MAY A HARD MAY.
WE'RE WAITING FOR THEIR INDEPENDENT STUFF.
WELL, WHICH, WHICH ONE, UH, WHICH ONE ARE WE WAITING FOR? THE FIRST ONE, THE SECOND ONE? THE THIRD ONE I THINK.
OR WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET TO THE FOURTH ONE? YEAH, I DON'T, I THINK THIS IS THE FOURTH.
THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS STALLED IT WAITING FOR THEIR STUDY.
WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR IN THE STUDY? THAT'S MY WHOLE POINT.
I MEAN, THEY'VE HAD THREE STUDIES ALREADY.
YEAH, I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST THE FIRST ONE.
I MEAN, DOES ANYBODY KNOW, I THINK JARED TALKED TO US ABOUT STONY CREEK IS ONE OF THE ISSUES, BUT DO THEY KNOW? I DON'T KNOW.
I'VE LISTENED TO EVERYONE AT THEIR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE, UH, STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK IS THINKING OR WHAT'S THE DEPARTMENT THINKING? WELL, THEY'RE USUALLY, UH, DATES ON WHEN FUNDING.
I MEAN, I JUST KNOW ABOUT THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT LATS LOANED BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THERE IS A DEADLINE.
AND IF THE COUNTY HASN'T FOUND THE OTHER, ALL THE OTHER FINANCING AND SETTLED THE WHOLE BRIDGE THING, THEN I MEAN, THEY WILL OWE, THAT'S A MILLION DOLLARS.
WE ASKED THE DEPARTMENT TO HOLD UP THEIR BRIDGE PROJECT.
THAT WAS THEIR PR THAT'S THE ONLY THING I KEEP LAUGHING WHEN I HEAR SC DOT'S PROJECT.
NO, THAT'S WHAT WE ASK THEM TO DO.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE BEST I CAN TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
MAY MAYBE, MAYBE I'M WRONG ABOUT THE ROLE OF THIS HAR OF THE, THE, THE BEAUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE KNOWING WHAT THE HECK'S GOING ON, CRAIG.
ALL I CAN SIMPLY SAY IS, UM, I HAVE THESE SCHEDULED FOR INFORMATION FOR US TO TRY TO KEEP US WITH THE LATEST INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE.
AND THAT'S ALL, THAT'S THE ONLY RULE THAT WE HAVE IN IT AT THIS JUNCTURE.
I, I HAPPEN TO DISAGREE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE.
BUT I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE DO GET YOU THE MOST UP TO DATE INFORMATION, UM, WHEN I SEE JARED.
SO I, I'LL PROMISE AGAIN NOT TO BRING IT UP ANYMORE.
I MEAN, I PROMISE THREE TIMES.
I'LL PROMISE THE FOURTH TIME ITEM NUMBER SIX, NEW BUSINESS.
[6. NEW BUSINESS]
GOOD THING.I'M STILL NOT THE COMMISSIONER.
GEORGE J JORDY MADELINE II BRIDGE SIGNAGE I INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS.
I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE DELEGATION.
THE DELEGATION HAD VOTED TO PUT A SIGN UP TO COMMEMORATE THIS INDIVIDUAL'S CONTRIBUTIONS HE'S MADE TO, UH, A SECTION OF BUFORT COUNTY.
AND ESSENTIALLY, UM, WE'RE SPENDING FIVE BEING TOLD TO SPEND $500 ON SIGNS.
SO I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SIGN FOR MOTION.
WELL, THERE THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
GOT A QUESTION MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE C FUND.
IS THAT AN I'M NEW AT THIS SORT OF, IS THAT AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE FOR IT IS.
HOW ABOUT FOR OTHER SCIENCE? IT IS.
I I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AND ACTIVE IN ALL THESE THINGS AND I NEVER HEARD OF THIS GENTLEMAN.
NOT THAT WE SHOULDN'T FUND IT, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD KNOW, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE FULL DOCUMENT THAT WENT TO THE HOUSE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T TELL US A THING.
OH, UM, LET ME, LET ME, I'LL, I'LL READ THE RESOLUTION TO REQUEST THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION NAMED THE NEW HARBOR ISLAND BRIDGE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
THE GEORGE J JORDY MAGDALENE OR THE THIRD BRIDGE AND ERECT APPROPRIATE MARKERS WERE SIGNS AT THE BRIDGE CONTAINING THESE WORDS.
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IS A BEAUFORT COUNTY NATIVE, WHO IS A DEVOTED HUSBAND AND FATHER WHO ENJOYS FISHING, BOATING SHRIMP AND IS A COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER.AND WHEREAS HE IS A DEDICATED STATE EMPLOYEE INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF SEA ISLANDS IN A MANNER THAT BALANCES THE NEEDS OF THEIR CITIZENS, ECOSYSTEMS AND SEA LIFE.
AND WHEREAS THE NEW HARBOR ISLAND BRIDGE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY IS NEARING ITS COMPLETION AND IT WOULD BE FITTING AND PROPER TO NAME IT IN HONOR OF HIM.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, THE SENATE CONCURRING THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA GENERAL ASSEMBLY REQUEST A BRIDGE OF TRA, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION NAMED THE NEW HARBOR ISLAND BRIDGE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND ERECT APPROPRIATE MARKERS WITH SIGNS AT THE BRIDGE CONTAINING THESE WORDS.
I I JUST THOUGHT IT KIND OF ODD THAT SOMEBODY DID.
WE HAD ONE ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO WHERE A LADY THAT WAS KILLED, THAT OWNED A BUSINESS AT THE CORNER OF BEAUFORT COUNTY IN JASPER COUNTY.
AND WE NAMED A BRIDGE FOR HER TOO.
SO, AND THEY DID THE SAME THING.
THEY SEND US TO DOT AND DOT SAYS, SAYS, PAY FOR IT.
SO I'VE SIGNED IT AND WE'LL PAY FOR $500.
WELL THAT'S A STATE LAW THAT THEY, FOR THE PAY.
I MEAN, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE A CHOICE IF YOU WANT IT.
MR. TURNER, YOU'RE UP FOR PAING PRESERVATION PLAN.
ALRIGHT, WELL GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
THANK Y'ALL FOR, FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.
UM, BRIAN AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR, FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW.
HE, HE, HE ASKED ME TO HELP PRO PRODUCE THIS LAST YEAR.
AND SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO, TO PRODUCE A MANUAL ON AND, UH, AND THE MANUAL, IT'S A GUIDELINE.
IT, IT, IT'S GOING TO, HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT YOUR, YOUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
UM, AND SO IT IS, IT IS AS SIMPLY IT IS A DOCUMENT.
UH, AND, AND I'LL READ THIS TO YOU, UH, DOCUMENTED CRITERIA PROCEDURES TO BEST EQUIP BEAUFORT COUNTY WITH THE TOOLS TO OPTIMIZE THE USE OF PUBLIC DOLLARS TO MAINTAIN THE IMPROVE AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE ROADWAY SYSTEM.
IT, IT'S ESSENTIALLY DOCUMENTING WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE, HAVE ALL BEEN WORKING TOWARD, UH, AS, AS THE CTC, UH, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW.
SO, UH, KUDOS TO YOU GUYS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IN LOOKING AT, FROM MY PAST EXPERIENCE, BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB.
AND SO, UM, BUT, SO THIS IS KIND OF DOCUMENTED SOME OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE DONE OR HOW YOU'VE DONE, HOW YOU'VE GONE ABOUT THEM IN THE PAST AND, AND HOW YOU CAN MOVE THINGS FORWARD.
UH, WHAT'S INCLUDED HERE IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE, THE ROAD INVENTORY AND DOING A PAVEMENT CONDITION SURVEY.
WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
WHAT, WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE ROAD INVENTORY, WHAT DATA YOU SHOULD BE COLLECTING ON THE ROADS, AN ANNUAL WORK CYCLE.
HOW, WHAT DO YOU DO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTS THAT, THAT, UH, BRIAN AND HIS TEAM DOES AND, UH, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO DEVELOP THE PLANS, IMPLEMENT THE PLANS, AND THEN CAPTURE THE, THE IMPACTS OF THOSE PLANS, WHICH IS KINDA GETTING TO WHAT MR. MANNING, WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS AND, AND HOW DO WE TRACK THAT AND HOW DO WE GAUGE HOW GOOD ARE WE DOING? AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AND, UH, HOW THAT CAN BE DONE.
NETWORK ANALYSIS IS, IS, IS LOOKING AT YOUR, YOUR NETWORK OF ROADS AND, AND WHAT, LIKE I SAID, WHAT IMPACTS HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE PLANS AND A BUDGET ANALYSIS, HOW'S THE BEST WAY TO USE THOSE FUNDS? THE MIX MIX OF, WE TALKED ABOUT PRESERVATION, RECONSTRUCTION AND REHABILITATION OF ROADS.
WHAT'S THE BEST USE OR BEST MIX OF THOSE, OF THOSE FUNDS TO, TO, TO IMPROVE YOUR OVERALL NETWORK HEALTH? AND THAT'S GONNA BE MY, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF MY CHALLENGE YOU GUYS IS LOOKING AT THE NET OVERALL NETWORK HEALTH, NOT NECESSARILY FOCUSING ON A SINGLE ROAD OR A SINGLE GROUP OF THE WORST ROADS IN IN THE COUNTY.
IT'S HOW DO WE IMPROVE THE OVERALL NETWORK? AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS.
THIS THIS DOCUMENT IS BASED UPON, UM, AND THEN PROJECT SELECTION AND THEN WHAT TREATMENT TYPES AND, AND, AND SOME SELECTION MATRICES THAT, UH, OR DECISION TREES THAT KIND OF GUIDE HOW YOU, HOW YOU ARRIVE AT THIS IS THE TYPE OF TREATMENT YOU'LL DO ON, ON THIS TYPE OF ROAD BASED ON THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU SEE.
UH, AND THEN SOME OF THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT, THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UH, UH, THAT, THAT COULD BE HANDLING THAT WOULD HELP MAINTAIN YOUR ROADS, UH, WATER, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE, THE, PROBABLY WATER, WATER, WATER.
WHAT'S THE THREE, YOU KNOW, BEST THINGS YOU CAN KEEP OUTTA YOUR ROAD.
THE, THE, SO THE DRAINAGE IS, IS, IS VITALLY IMPORTANT TO, UH, TO, TO THE SUCCESS AND TO THE MAINTENANCE OF ROADS.
SO MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, SO TALK ABOUT ROAD INVENTORY AND PAYMENT CONDITION SURVEYS.
SO, AND THAT'S REALLY, SO YOUR FIRST STEP HERE IS YOU GOTTA KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE.
YOU GOTTA KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT IS CONSIDERED YOUR NETWORK? IS
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IT THE, IS IT THE STATE ROADS? IS IT THE CITY OF BEAUFORT ROADS, HILTON HEAD? IS IT ALL OF THOSE COMBINED? SO IS IT, UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS OF GOING ABOUT IT AND YOU CAN HAVE SUBSETS, BUT IT'S REALLY UNDERSTANDING, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT IS YOUR NETWORK THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND YOU'RE CONSIDERING HERE AND THEN, AND IT'S DOING A PAVE CONDITION SURVEY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE CONDITION OF THAT NETWORK OF ROADS.YOU GOTTA HAVE THAT TO UNDERSTAND HOW GOOD ARE YOU DOING DOWN THE LINE.
UM, SO YOU CREATE A RANKING SYSTEM TO PRIORITIZE NEEDS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE GOALS OF, OF, OF THIS IS HOW DO YOU DECIDE ON WHICH ROADS, HOW DO YOU RANK THOSE ROADS? DEVELOPING A SUMMARY OF THE OVERALL CONDITION, LET'S GO BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING, THE OVERALL NETWORK HEALTH OR OVERALL CONDITION OF THE, OF THE SYSTEM.
DEVELOPING A, A UNIFORM RATING SYSTEM SO THAT EACH ROAD IS LOOKED, LOOKED UPON IN THE SAME MANNER.
AND YOU, AND YOU HAVE THE, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SCORING GUIDELINES FOR EACH OF THE ROAD, EACH OF THOSE ROADS, UM, CREATING A BASELINE OF THE PAVEMENT CONDITION TO COMPARE FUTURE CONDITIONS AND UNDERSTAND THE RATE OF DETERIORATION.
AND KINDA SAY THAT TWICE TO COMPARE FUTURE CONDITIONS AND UNDERSTAND THE RATE OF DETERIORATION.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT THERE IN WHAT BRIAN WAS TALKING ABOUT KINDA LONG TERM, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT RATE OF DETERIORATION YOU NEED A LONGER, YOU NEED A LONGER TIMEFRAME.
AND, AND AND, AND TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPACTFUL AND HOW QUICKLY DO THINGS DETERIORATE ONCE YOU DO A TREATMENT OF WHETHER IT'S REHAB, REHABILITATION OR PRESERVATION.
HOW LONG, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INDUSTRY STANDARDS THAT THAT WE, THAT YOU HEARD BRIAN TALK ABOUT.
AND THOSE, THOSE ARE WHAT WE PLUG IN WHEN WE DO AN ANALYSIS AND WE SAY, OKAY, THIS IS THE LIFE EXTENSION BENEFITS, UH, OR THE IMPACTS OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF LAST YEAR'S PLAN.
THIS IS WHAT IT DID TO THE OVERALL NETWORK HEALTH.
IT IMPROVED THE, THE RATING OF THAT PARTICULAR ROAD TO THIS POINT.
THE, AND THAT'S PART OF SOMETHING THEN I'LL, I'LL DIG INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE AS WELL.
AND SO IT IT'S A HISTORICAL RECORD OF PERFORMANCE, SO YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU DID AND, AND YOU'RE ABLE TO BRING THAT, AND I, AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS REALLY WHAT YOU NEED TO HAVE HERE IS KINDA A DATABASE OF, OF THESE, OF THESE ROADS AND YOUR NETWORK.
SO TALK ABOUT PAVE CONDITION SURVEY AND COLLECTING ALL THIS DATA, BUT YOU HAVE TO STORE THIS DATA SOMEWHERE.
SO YOU CAN HAVE THIS, A LOT OF WAYS OF DOING THAT FROM EXCEL SPREADSHEETS TO PAYMENT CONDITION, UH, TO SOFTWARE, UH, PAYMENT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OUT THERE THAT, SO THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS OF DOING THAT.
BUT THE, BUT REALLY AT THE END OF IT, IT'S, YOU NEED TO HAVE A SYSTEM THAT, UH, THAT CAN HELP YOU TAKE IN THIS DATA AND MANAGE THAT DATA AND MAKE DECISIONS UPON AND, AND THEN MEASURE THE, UH, THE IMPACTS OF YOUR ACTIONS.
SO MOVING ON TO THE ROAD CONDITION, ROAD INVENTORY AND PAYMENT CONDITION SURVEY.
SO HERE'S, I WANNA READ ALL OF THESE, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF IMPORTANT ONES HERE AS IT RELATES TO WHAT DATA YOU SHOULD COLLECT.
UM, SEGMENT ID IS SIMPLY JUST A, A A, A UNIQUE IDENTIFIER FOR THAT SECTION OR ROAD THAT THAT'LL BE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS.
IF IT'S DOT ROUTE, YOU'D HAVE A ROUTE NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
UM, POLITICAL JURISDICTION AND MAINTENANCE JURISDICTION, TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, YOU CAN HAVE A STATE ROAD OBVIOUSLY IN A DIFFERENT, IN IN MULTIPLE MUNICIPALITIES.
SO DE DEFINING THOSE AND WHERE THOSE BEGINNING END IS CAN BE IMPORTANT.
UH, SOME OF THIS, A LOT OF THIS I LOOK AT FROM HOW DO WE REPORT OUT TO, TO YOU GUYS? HOW DO WE REPORT OUT TO COUNTY COUNCIL OR, OR SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY MAY BE ASKING QUESTIONS.
IF YOU, IF YOU BUILD YOUR DATA SET OR BUILD YOUR FIELDS BASED ON WHAT YOU EXPECT TO, TO BE OUT, YOUR OUTPUT NEEDS TO BE TO THE, YOUR, SAY YOUR CUSTOMERS, THEN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BUILDING A, BUILDING A SYSTEM THERE AND YOU'RE BUILDING THE DATA, A DATA SET THAT YOU CAN EASILY GO IN AND HERE'S WHAT WE DID IN YEAR THREE OR YEAR FOUR.
I DON'T SEE YOU SKIPPED OVER THE ONE I'M MOST INTERESTED IN.
WHICH ONE IS THAT? BUT THE, UH, THE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION, IS THAT THE FEDERAL FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION IT IS.
AND HOW MUCH WEIGHT DOES THAT CARRY? UH, THAT, THAT'S A DEPENDENT UPON HOW THAT, AND I'LL, I'LL DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT FUNCTIONAL CLASS, HOW I'VE USED IT IN THE PAST ON IT'S, YOU TYPICALLY DON'T, YOU DON'T PROVIDE A FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION THAT'S A FEDERAL ROAD.
BUT HOWEVER YOU CAN, YOU, WHEN YOU GET INTO URBAN, LOCAL, URBAN AND RURAL LOCAL ROADS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN USE THAT CLASSIFICATION.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE, SAY, A DT INFORMATION, IF YOU DON'T HAVE COLLECT THAT TRAFFIC DATA ON ALL ROUTES, YOU CAN USE THAT AS A, AS A WAY TO KIND OF PRIORITIZE THAT ROAD BASED ON THIS FUNCTIONAL CLASS.
SO IF YOU, OKAY, AN URBAN ARTERIAL IS GONNA BE AT A HIGH, IT'S A HIGHER IMPORTANCE ALMOST.
IT CREATES ALMOST A SAY AN IMPORTANCE FACTOR FOR THAT ROAD BASED ON THE USE OF THAT ROAD.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE.
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WAS IT, IS IT THE FEDERAL CLASSIFICATION? YES.AND I WOULD USE THE AL CLASSIFICATION AND WHAT IMPACT IT HAS ON THE FINAL DECISIONS IT HAS VERY LITTLE ON COUNTY ROADS.
I, I UNDERSTAND THAT I, AND ON THE STATE, GREG, YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS THING.
I MEAN IT STATE ROUTES WE, IT IS LOOKED AT, BUT WE DIDN'T LOOK AT IT ON STATE SECONDARIES BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SMALLER A DT FROM 2,500.
SO YOU, SO YOU'RE ON THE STATE ROADS STATE SECONDARY SYSTEM, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE FEDERAL FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION? NO, BECAUSE THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC WE'RE LOOKING AT PRIMARILY ARE NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS AND SEC VERY SMALL STREETS WITH 500 A DT AND AND LESS OR 2000 A DT.
THERE'S LOTS OF ROADS THAT HIT THE HIGH, HIGHER CRITERIA OF 2000 ABOVE WHERE THAT WOULD BE RELEVANT.
BUT FROM MY PARTICULAR PERSPECTIVE ON THE STATE SYSTEM, THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS YOU LOOK AT ON THE STATE SYSTEM.
NOT ON THE COUNTY OR IN OUR WORLD SO TO SPEAK.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK YOU SAID ON THE SECONDARY SYSTEM, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT.
SO ONLY ON THE STATE PRIMARY SYSTEM ARE WE LOOKING AT THE FEDERAL FUNCTION.
WE'RE WE'RE NOT PAYING WE'RE, BUT ALL I'M SAYING, WELL WHY IS THIS LISTED THEN I LISTED AS AS AN OPTION FOR YOU TO USE IT.
'CAUSE IT IS GOOD TO HAVE THAT.
I UNDERSTAND THE USE OF THAT ROAD, WHETHER YOU USE IT FOR ANYTHING IS THAT'S KIND OF A UP TO YOU.
AND I'D ADD LIKE THIS GUIDE, THIS MANUAL THAT WE CREATED IS MAINLY TO GUIDE OUR DATA COLLECTION AND EVALUATION PRIORITIZATION OF COUNTY ROADS.
THIS IS NOT WHAT WE'RE USING FOR THE DOT SYSTEM.
THIS IS MAINLY FOR COUNTY ROADS AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW WHAT TO INCLUDE HERE.
I BELIEVE A LOT OF THAT IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.
SO LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE CREATING A HISTORICAL DATABASE OF WHAT THE ROAD IS LIKE, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO IT IN THE PAST.
SO YOU HAVE THAT HISTORY THERE.
BUT YEAH, THIS IS MAINLY FOR COUNTY ROADS IN THE SYSTEM.
BUT ON THE STATE'S, I'M, I'M GONNA SHUT UP AFTER THE, ON THE STATE SYSTEM, ON THE SECONDARY SYSTEM, IF IT'S NOT AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR, IT'S RESIDENTIAL.
AND WHEN YOU SEE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S ON A STATE ROAD, DOESN'T THAT TELL YOU SOMETHING? TELLS ME LOW VOLUME.
YEAH, IT TELLS YOU LOW VOLUME AND IT TELLS IT, IT DEFINITELY TIES INTO THE FACT JENNY HAS EVEN MADE NOTE OF IT.
IT'S WHENEVER WE DID THE UH, ANALYSIS AND HAD ALL OUR ROADS ANALYZED, IT WAS SHOCKING TO SEE THE NUMBER OF ROADS WITH 500 A DT OR LESS.
I MEAN THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHY THE COMMITTEE MADE THE DECISION TO TAKE FROM 2000 LESS.
AND WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE MAINTENANCE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE TYPE CRITERIA.
WHENEVER THEY'RE MAKING, SELECTING THEIR ROUTES, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT.
SO IF YOU WANNA DRAW A LINE THROUGH THAT, JUST MAKE THAT GO AWAY.
NO, I DON'T WANNA MAKE IT GO AWAY.
WELL IT IS NOT GOING TO BE IMPORTANT ON OUR ROAD.
I'M NOT GOING TO CONTINUE HIS I MEANLY RELATED.
BUT UH, IS THERE GOING TO BE A WAITING FOR EACH OF THESE? I MEAN SOME OF THE CHARACTERISTICS LIKE SEGMENT ID THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE TOO MUCH WEIGHT, BUT SOME OF THE DECISION MAKING ITEMS HERE ARE SOME ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHERS.
UM, AND I ALWAYS LOOK BACK ON SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW MIKE SULLIVAN AT S-C-D-O-T SOME YEARS AGO, BUT ANYHOW, HE AND I DID THIS WONDERFUL MATRIX TO DETERMINE PRO UH, LATS AND COG PROJECTS AND WE WAITED EVERYTHING AND IT MADE THINGS A LOT MORE BEARABLE FOR PEOPLE IF WE COULD SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS MORE IMPORTANT.
AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT LAND USES.
'CAUSE AGAIN, WE WERE THINKING OF THE FUTURE WHEN WE WERE DOING THIS MATRIX AND WE WERE LOOKING AT, OKAY, IF THERE'S COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT GOING TO BE ON THAT CORNER STARTING IN SIX MONTHS, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A REAL, A DIFFERENT SORT OF IMPACT THAN IF EVERYTHING IS RESIDENTIAL OR VICE VERSA.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BOTH WAITING AND LOOKING AT FUTURE LAND USES BECAUSE THAT TRULY, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS THE CONDITION OF PAVEMENT THAT WAS LOOKED AT WHENEVER WE DID OUR, AND I, I, I MADE A NOTE TO, TO TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT'S QUITE INTERESTING OTHER THAN CRAIG, YOU'RE WE'RE STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
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THIS IN 2017 AND THEN OUR SECOND REVIEW WAS 2021.AND SO THE DATA THAT WE PLUGGED INTO THE ANALYSIS, WE'LL PLUG INTO AGAIN WHENEVER WE GET TO, UM, TWO YEARS FROM NOW WHEN WE REANALYZE THE ROADS AGAIN.
SO THIS WAS DONE BASICALLY WE'RE, WE IS RICHARD STATED, WE'RE STARTED THIS IN 2017.
WE'RE FAR AHEAD OF WHERE IT IS TODAY.
WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW, UM, COUNTIES IN THE STATE THAT EVEN HAS A ROAD PROGRAM, ANYTHING CLOSE TO THIS.
SO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SITTING HERE IN THESE CHAIRS AND STARTED HOW START THIS PROGRAM IN 2017, WE'RE STANDING ON YOUR SHOULDERS TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE, WE DID A, THEY DID A GREAT JOB STARTING IT AND WE'RE CONTINUING IT ON.
YEAH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVING GONE THROUGH THE EXERCISE FROM PROJECTS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WIDENINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I JUST AM ALWAYS INTERESTED AND IF WE CAN COME ADD SOME OTHER, UM, CRITERIA THAT DO REALLY IMPACT PAVEMENT CONDITION.
I MEAN IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT, BUT IT REALLY DOES.
AND I ENVISION THIS BEING A LIVING DOCUMENT THAT'S UPDATED AS TIME GOES ON.
SO FAR, WHEN WE HAVE DONE OUR PAVEMENT EVALUATIONS, WE'VE USED THE A STM 64 33, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR RICHARD.
HE MIGHT BE GETTING INTO SOME OF THIS TO, UH, DETERMINE HOW WE RATE THE PAVEMENT AND THE DISTRESS WE RECORD.
AND THAT COMES UP TO AND GIVES US, YOU KNOW, A, UH, PQI OR PCR, I'M SORRY, THE DOT USES PQI.
UM, AND THAT GIVES US A SCORE AND THEN WE ARE USING OUR A DT TO KIND OF PRIORITIZE AND DETERMINE A TREATMENT.
AND THAT'S WHERE IN THE, UM, DECISION TREES THAT WE ASKED RICHARD TO COME UP WITH, HE'S LOOKING AT THE DISTRESSES THAT ARE PRESENT THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD AND THE A DT TO DETERMINE THE, UM, THE TREATMENT OPTIONS.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I SEE THIS BEING A LIVING, UH, LIVING DOCUMENT, BUT I WILL SAY FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE COME UP WITH A FIVE YEAR PLAN.
AND THEN AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PLAN, EACH YEAR'S PLAN GETS REEVALUATED YEARLY TO LOOK AT ROADS, MAKE SURE NOTHING'S CHANGED, MAKE SURE THE, UM, EVERYTHING IS STILL APPLICABLE.
SO IF WE KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS COMING UP ON A ROAD LIKE A DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING, WE MAY LOOK AT IT OR WE MAY, YOU KNOW, PUSH IT DOWN TILL WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO RESURFACE A ROAD THAT'S GONNA HAVE A WALMART BUILT RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC THAT'S GONNA DESTROY THE ROAD PREMATURELY.
SO AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THOSE ANNUAL REVISIONS, WE DO LOOK AT SOME OF THAT STUFF ON THINGS THAT WE ARE AWARE OF THAT ARE GOING TO BE OCCURRING.
SO IN THE ACTUAL PRIORITIZATION AND TREATMENT SELECTION, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A DT DISTRESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT DURING THE ANNUAL REVIEWS WE DO LOOK A LITTLE BIT INTO SOME OF THAT.
SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? SORT OF.
BUT I GUESS, 'CAUSE I'M A PLANNER, I'M ALWAYS THINKING AHEAD.
I MEAN, I DO, I'M AWARE OF PRESENT CONDITIONS, WHATEVER THEY ARE, ECONOMIC OR OTHERWISE.
AND I, AGAIN, I WOULD GET INTO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LOOKING AT THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE ROADS.
IT'S, I DON'T WANNA SAY IT'S MAINTENANCE, BUT IT'S MORE OF PRESERVATION AND RESURFACING.
BUT WE DO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SOME OF THAT WHEN WE ARE GOING THROUGH AND ANNUALLY REVIEWING THESE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY PUT IT OUT TO BID.
SO, AND OF COURSE WE DID HAVE ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER CRITERIA THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HERE IS THE EFFECT OF GOOGLE MAPS ON PAVEMENT CONDITIONS.
I HAPPEN TO BE LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S GETTING A HUGE AMOUNT OF THE BRIDGE CHANGES JUST BECAUSE MY, MY STREET SHOWS UP AS THE BEST, THE QUICKEST WAY TO GET FROM THE BRIDGE TO THE HOSPITAL.
UM, AND SO, AND I WOULD SAY THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THESE PAYMENT EVALUATIONS AND TREATMENT SELECTIONS.
AND THE OVERALL, UM, AND I GUESS I COULD HAVE GOT UP AND SAID THIS FIRST, BUT THE OVERALL GOAL AND WHY WE ASKED RICHARD TO DO THIS WAS, SO WE'RE FOLLOWING A CONSISTENT POLICY YEAR AFTER YEAR WHEN WE DO THESE EVALUATIONS TO GET TO WHAT MR. MANNING WAS ASKING ABOUT IF WE'RE DOING EVALUATIONS AND DATA COLLECTION EVERY FOUR YEARS.
BUT WE'RE COLLECTING IT DIFFERENTLY EVERY TIME.
WE CAN'T BUILD GOOD CONCLUSIONS OR GOOD TRENDS.
SO THIS IS KIND OF TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING A, YOU KNOW, SET GUIDELINE EACH TIME AND WHETHER, YOU KNOW, IT'S HUS, A STM, UH, TIME AFTER TIME, OR WHETHER IT'S HUGHES A PQI THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT WE'RE SELECTING TREATMENTS THE SAME WAY.
AND SO WE CAN START TO BUILD THOSE LONGER TRENDS AND AND CONCLUSIONS, BUT WE ALSO WANNA COMPARE APPLES AND APPLES.
NOT ONE YEAR ORANGES THE NEXT YEAR GRAPEFRUIT AND, YES, EXACTLY.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL OF THIS IS.
IT'S NOT A FUTURE PLANNING DOCUMENT, IT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REPEATING THE SAME PROCESS.
ALRIGHT, SO KIND OF LOOKING TO
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NOW AT, AT, SO FREQUENCY AND GUIDELINES OF WHEN YOU WOULD AND SOME GENERAL GUIDELINES FREQUENCY, I'D RECOMMEND IT EVERY THREE YEARS.UH, AFTER THREE YEARS, YOU START TO SEE A OF YOUR PA EVERY THREE YEARS FOR YOUR PAYMENT CONDITION SURVEYS.
AFTER THREE YEARS, YOU START TO SEE YOUR DATA IS NOT EXACTLY THE MOST ACCURATE.
IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T ALWAYS ACCURATELY DEPICT WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THAT TIME.
SO IT IT, IT BECOMES LESS AND LESS RELIABLE.
OBVIOUSLY THE LONGER OR THE OLDER THE DATA IS, UM, I RECOMMEND RATE RATING THE FULL PAVEMENT WIDTH, UH, OF, OF THE, OF THE LANE THAT YOU'RE TRAVELING IN ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS, NOT JUST TAKING, UH, SAMPLES ALONG THE WAY.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY BRIDGE DECKS WHEN YOU COME ACROSS A CONCRETE BRIDGE DECK THAT SHOULDN'T PLAY A FACTOR INTO THE, UH, THE CONDITION OF THE REST OF THE ROADWAY OR THE CONDITION OF THE REST OF THE PAVEMENT.
UM, IT'S LIKE THE DISTRESSES THAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY COLLECT.
YOU, YOU OBVIOUSLY THE MOST IMPACTFUL, UH, IS CRACKING LIKE ALLIGATOR CRACKING AND, AND RUING PROBABLY THE TWO LARGEST THINGS YOU'LL SEE THAT HAVE TO BE, UH, FULL DEPTH PATCHED, UH, OR TAKE ON THE HEAVIER REPAIRS.
THEN, UH, THEN SOME OF THE OTHER MINOR CRACKING AND, AND SURFACE TEXTURE, UH, WEARING, UM, NEED TO QUANTIFY THOSE DISTRESSES AS WELL.
AND, UH, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW BIG OF AN AREA, HOW LONG ARE THE CRACKS? HOW, UH, HOW BIG ARE THE AREAS THAT NEED TO BE PATCHED THAT ARE, THAT ARE FAILING FROM SAY, ALLIGATOR CRACKING? UH, AND THEN WHAT IS THE SEVERITY OF THOSE, THOSE DISTRESS IS, IS IT A LOW AMOUNT, LOW, MODERATE HIGH? ARE THE CRACKS REALLY WIDE? UH, ARE THEY VERY NARROW CRACKS THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, QUARTER INCH OR QUARTER INCH OR HALF INCH CRACKS THAT CAN BE FILLED WITH THE CRACK SEAL TREATMENT.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO UNDERSTAND TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT'S THE BEST TREATMENT TO, UH, FOR THAT ROAD.
SO ANY QUESTIONS THERE BEFORE I MOVE ON TO, UH, PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT WORK CYCLE? UM, SO PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT, IT IS CONTINUOUS, UM, EVERY, WE'RE, IT'S A PROCESS, AN ANNUAL PROCESS, UH, THAT WE GO THROUGH.
UH, AND SO I'VE KIND OF GOT, I GOTTA SHOW THE, THE PRO, I'VE GOT DATES SET THERE AND I BASE THOSE ON, UM, KIND OF THAT, THAT, HOW WHEN DO WE GET TO PAVE AND, AND TYPICALLY MARCH TO NOVEMBER IS ABOUT OUR PAVING SEASON.
WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LONGER AND FORTUNATELY IN, UH, OUR SOUTHERN, SOUTHERN ATMOSPHERE WE'RE ABLE TO PAVE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER AND A LITTLE BIT LONGER, UM, THAN, THAN SOME OF OUR, OUR STATES TO THE NORTH.
MARCH AND NOVEMBER IS ABOUT THE TIMELINE THAT YOU WOULD BE DOING YOUR PROJECT.
SO THEN AFTER THAT'S OVER, THEN YOU GET, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IMPACT DID THOSE PLANS, UH, IMPLEMENT? SO AFTER YOUR PAVING IS DONE, YOU BEGIN TO UPDATE YOUR SYSTEM, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION HISTORY, IT ALSO AT THIS TIME, DID YOU NEED TO UPDATE ANY CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN YOUR NETWORK, UH, TO MAKE SURE, DID YOU ADD ROADS? DID, UH, DID, DID THE DIRT ROAD PROGRAM, DID IT, OR, UH, HAVE YOU PAVED THREE OR FOUR ROADS THAT IN THE PAST YEAR THAT NOW NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE PAVED ROAD SYSTEM THAT WEREN'T THERE BEFORE? UH, UPDATE THOSE, MAKE SURE YOU'VE DONE AN ASSESSMENT ON THOSE.
SO YOU HAVE THAT SAME CONSISTENT BASELINE TO START WITH.
IT'S VERY OFF DONE VERY OFTEN WHERE YOU AND I HAVE A DISAGREEMENT THAT I HAVE A DISAGREEMENT ON THIS CYCLE FOR ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY.
WE'RE SO THAT OUR, OUR WORK YEARS HAS TO BE DONE BY JULY ONE.
AND SO WE BACK OUR SCHEDULE BASED UPON THE COMPLETION BECAUSE OF THE STATE BUDGET WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR MONEY SPENT BY.
SO THAT THROWS A SKEW TO THIS, THIS COMPLETELY STILL THE CYCLE OF THE OPERATIONS, NOT NECESSARILY THE DATES.
THAT, AND THAT WAS REALLY THE, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO KEY IN ON IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
YOU CAN SHIFT THE DATES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO MEET THAT, TO MEET THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT SPENT OF YOUR CTC DOLLARS.
THAT, THAT COMPRESSES THAT SCHEDULE, COMPRESSES THAT, THAT COMPLETED PROJECT SCHEDULE AND, AND MAYBE COMPRESSES SOME OF THE OTHERS TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE PREPARED IN SAY, DECEMBER, YOUR ADVERTISING PROJECTS OR, UM, SO THAT YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AHEAD.
SO YOU HAVE A TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FULL, I'LL SAY MARCH TO MARCH THROUGH JULY OR MARCH THROUGH JUNE, UH, PAVING SEASON TO, TO MEET THAT, THAT CRITERIA.
UM, BUT THE, THE BIGGEST THING IS MAKE SURE YOU GO THROUGH, YOU UPDATE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR DATABASE, UPDATE THE DATA SET WITH WHAT, WHAT HAS HAPPENED DURING THAT PAVING CYCLE.
UH, AND THEN YOU CAN, YOU ANALYZE YOUR NETWORK HEALTH AND YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT IMPACTS DID, DID THAT HAVE ON THE OVERALL NETWORK HEALTH.
UM, AND THEN YOU, ONCE AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE FUND OR WHAT DO WE, HOW DO WE UTILIZE OUR FUNDS FOR THE NEXT YEAR? YOU'RE, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE FUNDING SCENARIOS TO OPTIMIZE THAT, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU, UH, YOU DO THE BEST YOU CAN WITH WHAT DOLLARS YOU HAVE AVAILABLE.
AND ONE OF THE BIG, AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE VERY IMPORTANT PIECES OF THAT, AND ESPECIALLY THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IS REVIEWING
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YOUR CONSTRUCTION COST.UM, THEY'VE DRAMATICALLY INCREASED IN THE LAST THREE TO FOUR YEARS.
UM, AND, AND SO THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT STEP THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, THAT YOU'LL NEED TO GO THROUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT ARE THE UNIT UNIT RATES LOOK LIKE TODAY? AND, AND LAST YEAR'S RATES DON'T ALWAYS, AREN'T ALWAYS THE BEST EXAMPLE, UNFORTUNATELY.
IT, UH, THEY, IT SEEMS TO BE SUCH A VOLATILE, UH, MARKET, MARKET WE'VE BEEN IN LAST FEW YEARS.
BUT, UH, BUT UH, YOU'LL, YOU'LL NEED TO TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO THAT AS YOU OPTIMIZE YOUR FUNDING SCENARIOS.
UM, AND THEN DEVELOPING PLANS BASED ON THOSE, UM, ON THOSE SCENARIOS THAT, OR THE SCENARIO THAT YOU CHOOSE.
UH, AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, DOCUMENTING THOSE IMPACTS OF THE PLANS.
AND THEN YOU'RE KIND OF STARTING, STARTING BACK OVER AGAIN.
SO MOVING ON TO THE NETWORK ANALYSIS AND GOALS PORTION OF THAT, UM, YOU SHOULD PERFORM A, A NETWORK ANALYSIS ANNUALLY.
AND, AND, AND THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN, YOU CAN SET AND ADJUST YOUR PROGRAM GOALS BASED ON HOW ARE YOU DOING, UM, AND HOW, WHAT KIND OF FUNDING YOU HAVE THAT YEAR.
IF YOU HAVE SOME ONE-TIME FUNDING, MAYBE YOU, YOU DECIDE TO, TO PUMP UP A GOAL FOR THAT COMING YEAR OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT'S A, THAT YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
BUT TO DO THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO LOOK AT, AT WHATEVER SCENARIO YOU'RE FACED WITH THAT YEAR, UM, LIKE I SAID, UPDATING TO, TO GET THERE, YOU GOTTA UPDATE THE INVENTORY, UPDATE THE PAYMENT CONDITION RATINGS.
UM, THIS IS ONE, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR ROADS THAT YOU DIDN'T TOUCH, THEY'VE AGED ANOTHER YEAR.
SO THE CON THE, THE CONDITION OF THOSE ROADS HAVE DETERIORATED, UM, IN THAT ONE YEAR.
SAME THING, LIKE I SAID, ON THE IMPACTS OF THE, UH, THE, OF THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS THAT YOU HAD MADE.
AND THEN ONCE YOU HAVE THOSE UPDATES DONE, YOU CAN LOOK AT COUNT, HOW MANY FAILED ROADS DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR NETWORKS? DID YOU DECREASE THAT FROM THE YEAR BEFORE? UM, HOW MANY ROADS ARE GOOD OR BETTER? UH, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE METRICS THAT YOU CAN MEASURE.
WHAT IS YOUR OVERALL NETWORK CONDITION INDEX? IS IT, YOU KNOW, ON A SCALE TO ZERO TO A HUNDRED, IF YOU'RE 70 AND ABOVE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'VE GOT A GOOD, GOT A GOOD PROGRAM THAT, UH, THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S DOING WELL.
UM, SO, AND THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY THERE TO REVIEW AND ADJUST THOSE GOALS.
AND, AND WORKING WITH BRIAN, WE CAME UP WITH THE, THE GOALS THERE LISTED THERE, UH, FOR BOTH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY MAINTAIN ROADS AS WELL AS AS ALL ROADS WITHIN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND KINDA SEPARATING THOSE TWO OUT.
UH, AND BASED ON THE, BASED ON WHAT WE, WE'VE SEEN WITH OUR CONCURRENT CONDITIONS WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE COUNTY AND, AND THEN WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE COUNTY'S MAINTAIN ROAD SYSTEM.
AND SO YOU SEE THE, THE FIRST ONE DOES A, REDUCE THE BACKLOG OF FAILED ROADS TO ZERO MILES WITHIN FIVE YEARS.
GOT A SMALL AMOUNT OF FELL ROADS TO MAYBE KNOW ROAD.
WE DON'T HAVE ROADS IN, IN THE, IN THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SYSTEM.
SO MAINTAINING IT AS ZERO IS, UH, IS, IS GOOD.
UM, 90% OF THE NETWORK, YOU KNOW, THESE NUMBERS ARE KIND OF ON THE EXTREME END OF THESE, OF THESE RANGES BECAUSE IT, 'CAUSE THE SYSTEM IS IN, IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION.
UM, SO A GOAL OF 90% OF YOUR NETWORK BEING GOOD OR BETTER WITHIN FIVE YEARS IS FOR MOST COUNTIES AND AGENCIES PROBABLY IS A VERY LOFTY GOAL.
UM, AND, BUT, UH, YOU GUYS ARE, ARE, ARE, HAVE THAT IN YOUR SITE.
SO, WHICH IS GREAT OVERALL NETWORK PAYMENT CONDITION, UH, OF 80 OR OR GREATER WITHIN, WITHIN FIVE YEARS.
SO YEAH, ON THAT ZERO TO A HUNDRED SCALE.
AND THEN MEET A PRESERVATION PAYMENT PRESERVATION FUNDING GOAL OF 50%.
UH, SO KIND OF BUILDING YOUR WAY TO THAT OF MAINTAINING YOUR GOOD ROADS IN A GOOD CONDITION SO THEY NEVER REACH THAT POINT OF FAILURE AND THEY NEVER MAKE THAT THE BAD LIST OF, OF, UH, THAT BACKLOG OF FAILED ROADS.
AND THEN LOOKING AT THE OVERALL, THE OVERALL COUNTY SYSTEM, UM, REDUCING THAT TO SEVEN AND A HALF MILES OR LESS, UH, WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF, OF FAILED ROADS, IMPROVING THE NETWORK PCI FOR EACH MUNICIPALITY, UH, TO A 70 OR GREATER.
SO KINDA LOOK PULLING THOSE APART THERE IN, IN EACH MUNICIPALITIES AND BRINGING THOSE UP.
UH, OVERALL NETWORK CONDITION INDEX OF 75 OR GREATER FOR THE OVERALL COUNTYWIDE PROGRAM.
AND THEN 70, HAVING 75% OF THE NETWORK IN A GOOD OR BETTER CONDITION WITHIN FIVE YEARS.
SO THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE GOALS THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE THAT WE PUT IN HERE.
OBVIOUSLY, LIKE BRIAN SAID, THIS IS THE LIVING DOCUMENTS.
SO THOSE THINGS WILL BE LOOKED AT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND ADJUSTED AS NEEDED.
SO KIND OF THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS WOULD BE LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGET, UH, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
AND YOU SEE I'VE GOT KIND OF THE FUNNEL THERE.
THIS IS KIND OF THE THREE-PRONGED APPROACH OF PRESERVATION, REHABILITATION, AND RECONSTRUCTION.
AND I'VE GOT A FEW SCENARIOS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE, BUT IT'S REALLY COMPLETING AN ANALYSIS.
DETERMINE WHAT MIX OF PROJECTS THAT, THAT, THAT WILL IMPROVE YOUR OVERALL HEALTH, UM, OVERALL HEALTH WITH YOUR NETWORK, UH, AND REDUCING THAT BACKLOG OF FAILED ROADS.
SO, AND YOU COULD USE THOSE PROGRAM GOALS WE JUST DISCUSSED TO DECIDE HOW BEST TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, KEEPING GOOD ROADS IN GOOD CONDITION THAT KEEPS 'EM OFF OF THE, KEEPS 'EM OUT OF THE RED AND THE YELLOW
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AREA AND KEEPS 'EM IN THE, THE GREEN AREA.SO YOUR, YOUR NUMBER OF ROADS THAT ARE IN GOOD OR BETTER CONDITION, UH, CONTINUE TO STAY THAT WAY.
UH, SO A FEW FUNDING SCENARIOS, AND THESE ARE JUST HYPOTHETICAL, UH, BUT YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, IF YOU START OFF, YOU COULD START OFF WITH A PRESERVATION PERCENTAGE OF YOUR BUDGET USING IT 20% AND RECONSTRUCTION AT THE HIGHEST, PRESERVATION AT THE LOWEST.
AND EVENTUALLY YOU WANT THOSE KIND OF THE, THE, THAT THE SHIFT SO THAT YOU, YOU, YOUR BACKLOG OF YOUR RECONSTRUCT AROSE TO BE RECONSTRUCT IT GOES AWAY.
'CAUSE THAT, WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS IS YOU'RE SPENDING PRESERVATION, YOU'RE SPENDING A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY AND OF ON A VERY LONG, LONG LIST OF ROADS AND RECONSTRUCTION, YOU'RE SPENDING THE MOST OF YOUR BUDGET ON A, OR A LARGE PART OF YOUR BUDGET ON A VERY SMALL LIST.
SO YOUR COST PER MILE IS, IS QUITE EXTREME FROM ONE TO THE OTHER.
SO IF YOU CAN SHIFT THAT, YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY, YOU CAN PUT MORE, MORE MONEY ON MORE MILES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE SHIFT IN IN IN THE THOUGHT PROCESS THERE FROM WORKS FIRST TO A HOLISTIC APPROACH OF, OF GOING ABOUT MAINTAINING YOUR PAVEMENT NETWORK.
AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT MS. KOZAK, WHAT YOU WERE DISCUSSING WITH PRIORITIZATION.
AND, AND SO THERE'S AN EXAMPLE HERE, I'M NOT GONNA DIVE TOO DEEP INTO THIS IS THE ONE WE USED ON THE LOW, LOW VOLUME ROADS.
UM, BUT IT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE PAYMENT CONDITION AND, AND ESSENTIALLY THE A DP AND IT DID HAVE A LAND USE.
UM, LAND USE CAN, LIKE I SAID, THIS KIND OF A YOU, IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT SO YOU CAN ADJUST THIS AS NEEDED.
BUT THE, THE BIGGEST POINT IS YOU NEED TO HAVE A WAY TO PRIORITIZE THE ROAD SO THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST DOING, BASING IT ON THE PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX AND YOU'RE NOT JUST PICKING THE WORST ROAD AND SPENDING ALL YOUR MONEY ON THE WORST ROADS AND THEN YOU'RE, THAT'S THE WORST FIRST WAY OF DOING THINGS VERSUS KIND OF THE HOLISTIC APPROACH.
AND THEN DECIDE WHAT KIND OF FUNDING, HOW YOU WANT TO UTILIZE YOUR FUNDING FOR THE BEST NETWORK HEALTH AND THEN DECIDE HOW DO YOU PRIORITIZE THOSE, EACH OF THOSE SUBSETS OF ROADS THAT ARE WITHIN THOSE INDIVIDUAL CATEGORIES.
UM, BECAUSE YOU USE THAT DATABASE THEN, UH, THAT, THAT YOU, YOU'VE CREATED TO DECIDE, OKAY, WHERE, UM, WHICH ROADS FIT WITHIN THIS CATEGORY, WHICH ONES ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES BASED ON HOW YOU'VE SET IT? AND THEN YOU UTILIZE THAT LIST AND THEN YOU DO YOUR FIELD REVIEWS MUCH LIKE WHAT, WHAT BRIAN WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO LOOK AT THINGS SUCH AS, UM, THE, THE PLANNING PIECE.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEING PLANNED SUCH AS A WALMART OR SOME OTHER LARGE DEVELOPMENT, MAYBE YOU WANNA DELAY IT A YEAR, UH, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, UM, A LAND, A LAND, UM, OR A DIRT MINE COMING INTO A LOCATION THAT'S GONNA ON A SECONDARY ROAD THAT, THAT COULD TEAR IT UP.
YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE, YOU NEED TO MAKE SOME CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT OR THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS OBVIOUSLY THAT CAN PLAY A FACTOR IN THE FINAL, IN THE, IN THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD TRUCKS BEING THE WORST SCENARIO, UM, FOR SOME OF, A LOT OF THESE SECONDARY ROADS THAT ARE, THAT WERE NEVER BUILT FOR THAT.
UM, SO GROUPING ROADS WITHIN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, AS LONG AS IF THEY'RE IN THE SIMILAR TO SAME CONDITION, YOU WANNA HAVE THOSE GROUPED TOGETHER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WAY I LOOK AT IT IS EVERY TIME A LOW BOY PICKS, PICKS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT UP AND TAKE IT TO THE NEXT JOB, YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT.
SO IF YOU CAN GROUP THOSE ROADS TOGETHER, YOUR COST IS GONNA GO DOWN, YOUR COST PER MILE TO PAVE IS GONNA GO DOWN.
AND ALSO YOU, FROM A CITIZEN STANDPOINT, YOU'VE GOTTA, IT, IT, IT, IT'S MUCH BETTER TO GO IN AND PAVE AS, AS MANY AS IT NEED TO BE PAVED AT ONE TIME, THEN COMING YEAR AFTER YEAR TO THE SAME LOCATION.
UM, SO I THINK FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE STANDPOINT, YOU'LL BE, YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE BETTER RESULTS THERE AS WELL.
UM, THE PRIORITY RANKING SCORE, LIKE I SAID, IT CAN BE THINGS SUCH AS PAVEMENT, CONDITION INDEX, LAND USE, AS WELL AS TRAFFIC.
SO THE LAST TWO SLIDES, UH, REALLY TALK ABOUT TREATMENT SELECTION AND THE DECISION TREES.
AND SO WHAT, HOW I I'M RECOMMEND YOU GO ABOUT TREATMENT SELECTION IS, IS YOU UTILIZE THAT PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE RANGE THERE ON THE, ON THE TABLE TO THE RIGHT, UM, FROM ZERO TO 40, VERY POOR, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT RECONSTRUCTION AT THAT POINT UP TO THE, THE DARKER GREEN AND THE 85 TO A HUNDRED.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT PRESERVATION TREATMENTS THERE.
YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ROADS AND WHAT CATEGORY THEY FIT WITHIN.
UH, AND THEN YOU TAKE THE NEXT STEP.
DOES THE ROAD HAVE CURB AND GUTTER? IF YOU, DO, YOU NEED TO MILL IT OR DO YOU NOT? UH, YOU MAY HAVE TO MILL IT JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION, BUT THAT'S MORE ON THE REHAB RECONSTRUCTION SIDE OF THINGS.
AND DECISION TREES WILL, WILL HELP YOU KINDA GET TO THAT, GET TO THAT CONCLUSION AS WELL.
BUT THE FIRST KIND OF THOUGHT PROCESS THERE, IF YOU'RE GONNA PAVE, PAVE THE ROAD AND YOU HAVE A CURB THERE, YOU'VE GOTTA MAINTAIN THAT, THAT ELEVATION OF THAT GUTTER LINE.
AND SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL TRIGGER YOU TO ADD MILLING TO THAT PARTICULAR ROAD.
UM, YOU NEED TO REVIEW, THERE'S A DISTRESSES AND THEN THEN COMPLETE A, COMPLETE A REVIEW, UH, A FIELD REVIEW OF THAT ROAD TO BETTER BEST DETERMINE DATA.
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MAY BE THREE YEARS OLD AT THAT TIME.SO YOU REALLY NEED TO GO OUT AND YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE DECISION TREES, AND I'VE GOT TWO THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE NEXT PAGE.
UM, AND THIS ONE'S KIND OF, THIS IS THE SORT OF THE TWO EXTREMES.
THE VERY POOR, UM, IN THIS SITUATION, A VERY POOR ROAD.
YOU, YOU'RE GONNA MILL IT 'CAUSE IT'S, OR EITHER YOU'RE GONNA FOLD THAT PATCH IT AND OR DO A MILL IT, FOLD THAT PATCH AND OVERLAY IT.
OR YOU'RE GONNA DO A RECONSTRUCTION SAY OF A FOLD UP RECLAMATION TYPE PROCESS.
UH, REGARDLESS WHETHER IT HAS CURB AND GUTTER OR NOT, YOU CAN, UH, THOSE ARE OP, THERE'S, YOU CAN DO THAT.
UM, A LOT OF TIMES IN THE URBAN AREA YOU MAY, YOU MAY SIDE TOWARD GOING WITH JUST FULL THAT PATCHING, UM, AND, AND MILLING FULL THAT PATCHING AND OVERLAY VERSUS THE FULL, THAT RECLAMATION.
BUT, UM, LOOKING AT THE, THE DENSITY OF RUTS AND, AND THE, AND THE CRACKING DENSITY OR GRADING GREATER THAN SAY 20% OF THE AREA IS, IS CRACKED UP WITH ALLIGATOR CRACKING OR GREATER THAN 20% OF THE RUING.
THOSE THINGS ARE, WILL TRIGGER YOU TO DO, UH, THE PATCHING.
CONTINUE TO GET LESS THAN THAN YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH TYPICALLY A FULL DEPTH PATCH MILL AND OVERLAY.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE DEFINING FACTOR IS WHERE, WHERE'S YOUR KIND OF THE BREAKING POINT IN THE COST.
UH, IF YOU HAVE TO FULL DEPTH PATCH FOR 20% OF YOUR AREA, YOU'RE BETTER OFF THE LONG RUN YOU TO DO THE FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION 'CAUSE YOU'RE, IT'S JUST THE COSTING IS ABOUT IT ABOUT THE SAME.
AND THEN NOW YOU'RE GETTING A, A FULL ROAD THAT'S BEEN RECONSTRUCTED FROM NINE INCHES UP OR EIGHT INCHES UP OR 10 INCHES UP.
SO YOU'VE GOT A HOMOGENEOUS MIXTURE OF THE FULL WIDTH OF THE ROAD THAT'S BEEN COMPLETELY REDONE AND THE LONG RUN, IT'LL BE IN GOOD IN GREAT CONDITION.
KIND OF FLIPPING THAT OVER TO THE GOOD ROAD SITUATION, UH, IN THIS SITUATION, IT'S A, IT, YOU GOT A ROAD, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A PRESERVATION STANDPOINT.
IS IT RURAL, UM, WITH NO CURB AND GUTTER? IS IT AN URBAN ROUTE? AND THEN IT CAN HELP YOU DECIDE WHICH, WHICH TREATMENTS ARE BETTER UTILIZED IN THOSE AREAS, UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO ISOLATED FATIGUE, CRACKING, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU MAY SEE IN LOW LYING AREAS WHERE YOU POUR DRAINAGE.
YOU, YOU MAY HAVE TO DO SOME FULL THAT PATCHING IN THOSE ISOLATED AREAS, BUT IT SHOULD BE A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF THE AREA.
AND THEN YOU CAN, AND THEN YOU CAN DO, THEN YOU CAN DECIDE WHICH TREATMENT BEST FITS.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME TYPE OF AN OVERLAY, WHETHER IT'S A THIN LIFT, STEEL COURSE, MICROSURFACING, BUT THOSE ARE ALL THERE WITHIN THE KIND OF THE BLUE BOX.
AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY FROM LEFT TO RIGHT BASED ON THE, THE QUESTIONS YOU ASK YOURSELF ABOUT THAT ROAD.
ALONG THE WAY, THE URBAN ROADS, WHETHER IT'S CURB OR NO CURVE, UM, CAN DECIDE WHICH TREATMENT TYPE, WHICH PATH YOU GO UPON THERE TO COME IN WITH A FINAL DECISION.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT TO, THIS WAS BASICALLY DONE TO QUANTIFY AND KIND OF BACK, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, HOW WE'VE GOT TO WHERE WE'RE AT.
THIS IS TO LIVE IN PERPETUITY SO THAT HOW THE DECISIONS HAVE HAVE MADE IN THE PAST, HOW THEY WILL BE CONTINUED ON IN THE FUTURE USING THIS PROCESS.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT'S VERY RELEVANT IS THAT JUST BROUGHT OUT WITH OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THE ROADS AND WE PAVED THROUGH THAT THOSE FIVE YEARS.
AND WHAT BY HIRING AN ENGINEER EVERY YEAR TO MAKE CERTAIN WHAT WE HAD LOOKED AT AND WHAT WE FELT WAS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE DONE TO THOSE ROADS AT THAT GIVEN POINT IN TIME, IT STILL IN PLACE OR SHOULD BE DONE.
IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE WHETHER IT'S A POUND OF ASPHALT WE'RE PUTTING DOWN OR THE TYPE OF PROCESS, WHETHER IT'S BE FOGGING OR MILLING AND FILLING ANYTHING ELSE.
SO IT HELPS BY US ANNUALLY GOING THROUGH THIS THOUGHT PROCESS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HIRE AN ENGINEER TO LOOK AT OUR, OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN, CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT.
CAN WE GET THIS ELECTRONICALLY? 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S RATHER SMALL PRINT AND YES.
BE ABLE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIGGER.
THESE, YOU GOT A COPY? WE HAVE COPIES.
THANK, WELL I HAVE A HARD COPY BUT IT'S HARD TO READ IT ON THE HARD COPY, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
ITEM C, BEAUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
WE WROTE OUR FIRST PLAN BACK IN 2017 AND IT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO THE S-C-D-O-T UH, JANUARY OF EVERY YEAR.
AND THROUGH THE YEARS WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF MAKING MINOR CHANGES AND EVERYTHING TO IT.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A COMMITTEE TOGETHER THAT, UM, IS GONNA STAND BACK.
NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PLANNING STANDPOINT, BUT LOOKING AT IT FROM THE EXECUTION STANDPOINT AND THE WORDS.
'CAUSE WE'VE CHANGED SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS. WE NOW HAVE A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM FOR 500 A DT IN THIS, WE
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NOW WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING IN A MINUTE ABOUT HAVING A PROGRAM, ANOTHER FIVE YEAR PROGRAM FOR 500 TO 2000 A DT.SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I'M GONNA APPOINT MY VICE CHAIR AND JENNY AND WE CAN MEET AT A SEPARATE TIME TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER CONVERSATION.
BUT I'M WANT TO ASK YOU TO, TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE TILL, UH, PROBABLY ABOUT OCTOBER TIME SPAN.
SO IT GIVES US SOME TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND, AND GO THROUGH OUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND HAVE IT READY FOR OUR, UH, MEETING IN NOVEMBER SO IT CAN BE APPROVED AND SENT TO SECRETARY TRANSPORTATION BY ONE, UH, JANUARY.
YOU WANT NOBODY'S DISAGREEING WITH THAT.
IT JUST MAKES IT HARDER TO GET A GROUP TOGETHER.
TWO CAN DO IT AND IF WE CAN'T GET ALONG WITH EACH OTHER, WE, WE'LL LET ME KNOW.
WELL ACTUALLY TODAY IS THE ONE TIME I HAVE TO, I HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S TO BE AT FIVE 30.
I'LL GET YOUR PHONE NUMBER QUICK.
THE LAST NEXT ITEM IS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL 500 TO 2080 DT, WHICH IS THE ANNUAL.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN GLORIA.
AND UH, SO AS YOU MENTIONED MANGO AT THE LAST MEETING IT WAS DISCUSSED TO DO A FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR 500 TO 2000.
UM, SO CAN'T REALLY SEE A LOT OF IT HERE, BUT BASICALLY OUT OF THE 300 MILE 80 MILES OF THE DOT OWNS AND SECONDARY ROADS THAT THE DOT OWNS AND MAINTAINS IN THE, IN THE COUNTY, ABOUT 102 OF THOSE MILES ARE, UM, BETWEEN THE A DT OF 502,000.
UM, WE'RE USINGS A, UH, BUDGET OF ABOUT 500,000 TO LOOK AT THIS.
SO WE HAVE THE SCOPE HERE THAT WE'VE PULLED UP.
I'LL PASS IT OUT AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH IT REAL QUICK.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, I THINK WE HAD HOW MANY MILES OF 500 OR LESS? I THINK IT WAS AROUND A HUNDRED MILES.
ABOUT THE SAME AS PRETTY CLOSE.
SO ROUGHLY 200 MILES OUT OF 380 MILES OF ROADS FALL IN THE, UH, 2000 A DT OR LESS AND 180 FALL INTO 2000 AND ABOVE A DT.
ALRIGHT, SO BEFORE JUMP INTO THIS, UM, DO YOU WANT TO, UH, THANK RICHARD? HE DID A GREAT JOB WITH THIS AND HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB, HIM AND HIS TEAM WITH, UM, THE LAST A DT LOW VOLUME A DT, UH, PRESERVATION.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY THAT RICHARD PRESENTED ON LAST YEAR ABOUT THE, UH, REPORT AND FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT THEY CAME UP WITH FOR THE LOW VOLUME LESS THAN 500 A DT ROADS.
SO BASICALLY WE HAVE RECEIVED DATA FROM THE DOT, FROM CHAD RAWLES WHO SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, AND THIS IS UPDATED DATA WHILE I BELIEVE COLLECTED WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO OF ALL THE SECONDARY ROADS IN THE COUNTY.
AND HE HAS GONE THROUGH AND SPLIT THAT OUT FOR ROADS BETWEEN THE ADTS OF 502,000 AND PRESENTED THAT TO US.
SO WE WILL GIVE, UH, TO THE SELECTED CONSULTANT, THAT DATA WILL GO TO THEM.
THEY WILL REVIEW IT, LOOK AT THE PQI AND THE DISTRESS THAT ARE OCCURRING ON THESE ROADS AND, UM, EVALUATE ALL THE ROADS AND TAKE THAT DATA, COME UP WITH A RANKING CRITERIA, PROBABLY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS USED ON THE LAST ONE AND WHAT'S IN THIS MANUAL.
AND THEN COME UP WITH A FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR TREATMENT OPTIONS USING THAT 500,000 A A YEAR.
AND THAT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR, FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT WILL BE PRESENTED ANNUALLY WITH AND FIVE FIVE YEAR LOW A DT ROAD PLAN.
WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED THE IN THIS THAT THEY WILL, UH, TALK, GOING BACK TO THE ANNUAL REVIEW.
THEY WILL LOOK AT THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS OF COUNTY PROJECTS, UH, FOR YEAR EIGHT IN, UH, YEAR EIGHT, COUNTY ROADS AND YEAR THREE OF THE SCD, LOW VOL, LOW VOLUME ROADS AND REEVALUATE, REEVALUATE THOSE COME UP WITH NEW PRICE ESTIMATES, OUR ENGINEERS ESTIMATES AND QUANTITIES FOR BID.
SO THAT WILL BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT AS WELL.
I'M HOPING THAT ONCE WE GET THIS, SINCE THE DATA IS ALREADY PRESENT, IT SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPLE.
UM, I'M HOPING FOR A THREE MONTH TURNAROUND, UM, SO THAT WE CAN TURN THIS AROUND AND GET BIDS OUT, UM, NEAR THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
UM, SO THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT THE SCOPE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
UM, I GUESS ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? WE'RE GOOD.
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GET THIS OUT TO BID.[7. TREASURER’S REPORT]
THE TREASURER'S REPORT AND, UM, THIS IS THE SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE STAND, UM, REALLY THROUGH JANUARY.UM, THAT'S WHAT'S SHOWING IN TERMS OF OUR, OF OUR REVENUES.
UM, JUST AS, JUST AS A LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESHER, WE'RE EXPECTING RECURRING REVENUES FOR THE YEAR TO BE ABOUT 2,661,000.
UM, DONOR BONUS OF 708,000 ROUGHLY.
AND OUR PORTION OF A NON-RECURRING, UM, APPROPRIATION OF $20 MILLION IS ABOUT 462,000, UH, WHICH KIND OF BRINGS OUR FUNDING TO ABOUT 3.8 MILLION FOR WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING FOR THE YEAR.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE SPENDING EXPENDITURES, UM, IT ISN'T QUITE FULLY UPDATED.
BRIAN DID MENTION DURING HIS, UH, DURING HIS PRESENTATION AND ALSO RUSTY, THE CONTRACTS FOR YEAR SEVEN PROJECTS.
RIGHT NOW ONLY 700,000 OF THAT 4.9 MILLION, UM, IS SHOWN ON THE SPREADSHEET RIGHT NOW.
WE NEED TO GET THE SPREADSHEET UPDATED AS THOSE CONTRACTS STILL OUTSTANDING, CONTRACTS ARE TURNED INTO PURCHASE ORDERS.
SO WE CAN REFLECT THAT, CAN WE, AND THEN GET BETTER, CAN WE GET THAT DONE WHEN THEY BECOME PURCHASE ORDERS WILL BE UPDATED.
OKAY, AS OF RIGHT NOW, HOW DO WE PURCHASE ORDERS? SO ONCE THEY BECOME PURCHASE ORDERS AND THEY GO INTO THE SYSTEM, THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE UPDATED INTO THE
AND THEN THAT'LL GIVE US A, A VERY MUCH CLEARER PICTURE OF WHERE WE STAND NOW VERSUS WHERE WE NEED TO BE BY JUNE 30TH TO MEET OUR C FUND PROGRAM EXPENDITURE REQUIREMENTS QUESTION.
SO THAT'S THE PLAN IS AS WE DISCUSSED, GET, GET THINGS UPDATED, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SPENDING THAT'S KIND OF OUT UNDER CONTRACT BUT NOT REFLECTED AND PURCHASE ORDERS IS YET.
AND GET A CLEARER PICTURE OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE SEE WHAT WE MAY NEED TO DO TO MEET THE COMMITMENT.
IS THERE, UM, ITEM EIGHT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE HAS A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT'D LIKE TO MAKE? SEE NONE.
[9. CHAIRMAN COMMENTS]
I JUST HAVE, UM, ONE ITEM THAT, UM, I THINK I'VE MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE.UM, WE MOVED THIS MEETING BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ASKED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AT THE STATE, UH, CTC MEETING.
I ALSO AM GOING TO WIND UP ON A BOARD, UH, IN THE AFTERNOON AND TALKING ABOUT TRENDS AND THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
AND IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING CHAD PUT TOGETHER, UM, I'M FROM BUFORD COUNTY, THERE'LL BE A PERSON FROM ANDERSON THAT'S ON THE COMMITTEE INTERVIEW A PERSON FROM DENMARK.
SO IT COVERED THE STATE WITH, UH, PEOPLE SITTING ON THE COMMITTEE PRESENTATION PORTION OF IT.
SO, UM, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT ALL TURNS OUT IN THE AFTERNOON.
AND, UM, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I'LL BE GLAD TO MAKE MY PRESENTATION TO THIS COMMITTEE AT OUR NEXT MEETING IF YOU WOULD.
SO IT WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
SO I'M SEEING HEAD SHAKE, SO I, I'D BE GLAD TO DO THAT.
AND AS I HAVE SAID, MY PRESENTATION ISN'T GOING TO BE WHEN YOU GO TO THESE, SO OFTEN THEY TURN INTO LECTURES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
MINE'S GONNA BE, I'M GONNA TELL A STORY AND I'M GONNA GO BACK TO HOW THIS ALL STARTED IN 2016 AND KIND OF TELL THE STORY OF THE, OUR SUCCESSES AND.