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[I. CALL TO ORDER]

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IT'S 5:00 IT'S SOMEWHERE. THIS IS THE JANUARY 16TH TOWN COUNCIL MEETING WHICH IS A JOINT TOWN COUNCIL MEETING FROM THE PAST TUESDAY ALONG US TODAY.

SO I'M TO CALL THIS HOW I LOOK AT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE INVOCATION I WAS SIX PRAYER FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK THINGS THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR THIS COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN WHO LOVE AND BREATHE AND SUPPORT BLESS EVERYONE.

PLEASE BLESS ALL OF YOU TOOK THE TIME TO COME OUT TONIGHT AND PLEASE DEAR LORD MAKE THIS A REGULAR OCCURRENCE AND PLEASE BRING CHILDREN BACK TO THIS COUNCIL.

THIS YEAR THIS STRENGTH TO MAKE THIS A PLACE THAT'S WELCOMING TO YOUNG AND OLD.

THANK YOU, DEAR LORD, FOR THE CIVILITY THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS BROUGHT TO THIS FORM OF GOVERNMENT. THANK YOU. WHO? THE PLACE WE CALL IN THIS WE PRAY EVEN WHO MAY MISS ALL WE HAVE.

[IV. INVOCATION]

MY LAST LADY AND I'M GOING TO COLLEGE VEGETABLE SHOP FOR THE SWEARING IN BUT BEFORE I DO.

I'M SERIOUS. I LOVE SEEING PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE.

I LOVE TO SEE THEM THE YOUNG PEOPLE BACK AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE JUST SEE PROBABLY GRANDDADDY AND THEIR AUNTS AND UNCLES GIVE PLEASE DO THIS THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR TOWN TO BE PRESENT AND YOU A FABULOUS MAYOR AND YOU HAVE AN AMAZING COUNCIL IN PRESENT AND THIS BRAND IN OUR STAFF IS TERRIFIC OUR TOWN ATTORNEY KEEPS THINGS STRAIGHT AND IT REALLY ALL FALLS ON YOUR AND I KNOW YOU ALL AND I DON'T SEE YOU OFTEN HERE SO WILL BE SITTING BACK THERE WHILE YOU'RE BUSY JUST MY LITTLE BOY. YEAH.

I'M GOING TO COME OVER AND I DON'T TELL WHOEVER LOVES THIS THEN TAKE YOUR YOU IS VERY IMPORTANT AND ALL ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE HERE WHICH IS OUR NOW FOR THE OPEN WORLD AND NEW TOWN THERE YOU WILL HEAR ME I LARRY JR. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR.

DO SOLEMNLY THAT I AM DULY QUALIFIED. THAT I AM DULY QUALIFIED ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS STATE ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS STATE.

THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE TO EXERCISE. THE DUTIES OF THE WHICH I HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO WHICH I'VE BEEN ELECTED AND THAT I AND THAT I WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY TO THE BEST MY ABILITY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES THEREOF DISCHARGE THE DUTIES THEREOF AND PRESERVE AND PRESERVE PROTECT PROTECT AND DEFEND AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION THE OF THIS STATE THE STATE AND OF THE UNITED STATES AND OTHER UNITED STATES.

SO HELP ME GOD SO HELP ME GOD BLESS ME OUT OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AS MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON I WILL EQUALLY I WILL EQUALLY FAITHFULLY FAIRLY AND IMPARTIAL AND IMPARTIALLY TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND SKILL AND SKILL EXERCISE THE TRUST EXERCISE OF THE TRUST IMPOSED IN ME REPOSED IN ME I WILL USE MY BEST ENDEAVORS WILL USE MY BEST ENDEAVORS TO PRESERVE THE PEACE TO PRESERVE THE PEACE AND CARRY INTO EFFECT AND CARRY INTO EFFECT ACCORDING TO THE LAW ACCORDING TO THE LAW THE

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PURPOSE THE PURPOSES FOR WHICH I HAVE BEEN ELECTED PURPOSES FOR WHICH I'VE BEEN ELECTED SO HELP ME GOD SO HELP ME GOD TO PRESERVE CIVIL WAR HEY, BABY BABIES RIGHT THERE.

OH, I WANT YOU ALL RIGHT. I GET OF YOU DURING JUSTICE, MA'AM, I DID SOMETHING I SAY BREAK THE CHAINS. OKAY. ARE YOU READY NOW BE HONEST.

YOU OH I ONLY I COULD SEE YOU RIGHT YOU THIS IS SAD MOMENT YOU SAY WE OUGHT TO GIVE HER A BIG ROUND OF SMACK YOUR 100 AND I WILL NOT ADMINISTER THE OATH OR THE TONGUE BLOSSOMS LIKE THIS OUTCOME. OKAY, I HEARD YOU FRAZIER DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I AM DULY QUALIFIED THAT I'M DOING WELL ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS STATE ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE, THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE TO WHICH I HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO WHICH I HAVE BEEN AND THAT I WILL DO MY DUTY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES THEREOF, DISCHARGE THE OUT THERE AND PRESERVE PROTECT AND DEFEND AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS STATE THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS STATE AND OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THE UNITED STATES. SO HELP ME GOD. SO HELP I'M THE COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AS COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF AND I WILL EQUALLY I WILL EQUALLY FAMILY FAIRLY AND IMPARTIAL AND IMPARTIAL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS AND SKILL TO SERVE THE TRUST EXERCISE THE TRUST FOR BOTH THE PROPOSAL AND ME AND I WILL USE AND I WILL USE MY BEST ENDEAVORS MY BEST ENDEAVORS DESERVE RESERVE PEACE TO BE CARRIED INTO EFFECT AND CARRY INTO EFFECT ACCORDING TO THE LAW ACCORDING TO THE LAW PURPOSES FOR WHICH HAVE BEEN ELECTED, THE PURPOSES OF WHICH I HAVE BEEN ELECTED SO HELP ME GOD SO HELP ME HERE IF YOU OR PEOPLE ONE OF YOUR PEOPLE PRAY ALREADY.

RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OH, AND I THINK YOU AND YOUR RIGHT AND I'M GOING TO GO WILL NEED SOME FRIENDS UP HERE BY THE VERY EARLY DASH BEFORE

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AFTER JODI THANK AND THANK YOU AND MIRANDA HERE I WAS RIGHT HERE I LEFT YOU RIGHT ON THE MACHINE LITTLE BIT ALMOST ALL RIGHT HOUSE YES, SIR. OH, I'M NOT GOING TO ADMINISTER THE OATH FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL I I DANIEL OLIVER WOULD DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I AM DULY QUALIFIED THAT I AM DULY QUALIFIED ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS STATE OF THIS STATE TO EXERCISE THE DUTIES TO EXERCISE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE TO WHICH I HAVE BEEN ELECTED OF THE OFFICE FOR WHICH I HAVE BEEN ELECTED AND THAT I WILL AND THAT I WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY DISCHARGE THE THEREOF, DISCHARGE THE DUTIES THEREOF. OBSERVE AND PRESERVE PROTECT AND DEFEND AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS STATE OF THIS STATE AND OF THE UNITED AND OF THE UNITED STATES SO HELP ME GOD SO HELP ME GOD.

COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON I WILL EQUALLY I WILL EQUALLY FAIRLY FAIRLY AND IMPARTIAL AND IMPARTIALLY TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND SKILL AND SKILL EXERCISED THE TRUST EXERCISED TRUST HOLDING ME REPOSED IN ME AND I WILL USE AND I WILL USE MY BEST ENDEAVORS MY BEST ENDEAVORS OBSERVE THE PEACE TO PRESERVE PEACE AND CARRY INTO EFFECT AND CARRY INTO EFFECT ACCORDING TO THE LAWS ACCORDING TO THE LAWS THE PURPOSE WHICH I HAVE BEEN THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH I HAVE BEEN ELECTED SO HELP ME GOD SO HELP GOD YOU WILL RISE INTO THIS EMERGENCY.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE SCORING AND THAT'S WHAT THE STATE READY WHICH IS YOU ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IF YOU ALL RIGHT EVERYBODY SINCE WE GOT THAT FUN PART I GET DOWN TO THE BUSINESS HERE ON THE AGENDA I MEAN THE DOCTRINE OF THIS IS HAVE BEEN ANY CHANGES WE NEED TO DO THE APPOINTMENT OF THE MAYOR PRO TEM FIRST SIR OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MAYOR PRO TEM A NOMINATION FOR MAYOR PRO TEM. I MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE COUNCILMAN DAN BOYLE FOR MAYOR PRO TEM AND ANY OTHER NO OTHER VOTE ALL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR I TO CLOSE AND THEN YOU GO AHEAD GO AHEAD VOTE IN FAVOR OF ALL THOSE IN FAVOR I KNOW THAT'S UNANIMOUS CONGRATULATIONS NOW WE GO TO THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA HAS THERE BEEN NO SIR.

[V. ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA]

NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA? NO MOVE. SO I GOT SECOND I WAS UNANIMOUS .

[VI. ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES]

NEXT IS THE ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES FROM 1212TH DECEMBER 1223 SECOND I NOW OKAY NOW IT'S

[VII. PRESENTATIONS, CELEBRATIONS, AND RECOGNITIONS]

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TIME FOR PRESENTATION PORTION CELEBRATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS FIRST THING ON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT CHARACTER STUDENT OF THE MONTH IS MONICA MONICA WHAT'S THE LAST NAME? LISA FROM RICHLAND OFFICE GUESS SHE'S NOT SO THIS IS OKAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING MAYOR START OF THIS BEFORE MY SUMMER DATE WHERE WE JUST RECOGNIZED ONE OF THE STUDENTS FROM OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS EVERY MONTH AND I ACTUALLY HAD A PLAN TO KIND OF OUTDO HER A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS SO BY TELLING THEM THAT IF THEY TELL MARCIA WHAT KIND OF FOOD WHAT THEIR FAVORITE FOOD IS, I'D COME TO LUNCH BY THEIR LUNCH AND GO HAVE LUNCH WITH THEM ONE DAY. BUT SHE'S NOT HERE SO WE'LL CONTACT HER AND THAT OFFER WILL STILL STAY SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT. OKAY.

MARTIN LUTHER KING PROCLAMATION IF GIVE ME A I WOULD LIKE RELAY MY PRESENCE AND ACTIONS OF MY COMMITTEE AND I SEE A FORMER PRESIDENT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECEIVE IT? I I DON'T GO FOR IT. THANK YOU. I WILL GET THAT.

WE LOVED THE MARTIN LUTHER KING PROCLAMATION 2000 OR AS MY COUSIN JANUARY 15TH, 1929 WAS THE BIRTHDAY OF A GREAT AMERICAN THE LATE REVEREND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR WHO GAVE HIS LIFE FOR LOVE JUSTICE AND WHEREAS THE DOCTOR REVEREND DR. LUTHER KING JR CELEBRATION SPONSORED AND HOSTED BY THE BLUFFTON MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR OBSERVANCE COMMITTEE.

AND. WHEREAS THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS COMMITTED TO PURSUING THE IDEALS JUSTICE, LOVE AND PEACE AND IN BLUFFTON FOR YOUR CELEBRATION THAT THEME SHALL BE TRANSFORMING DREAM NOW THEREFORE I'M MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ALONG WITH BLUFFTON TOWN COUNCIL DO HEREBY DESIGNATE TO PROCLAIM MONDAY JANUARY 15, 2024 AS REVEREND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR DAY IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON WHAT THIS YEAR OF I HAVE TO SET MY HAND AND CALL IT THE SEAL OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON BE ABLE TO THIS 16TH DAY OF JANUARY 14TH 2014 YOU THANK YOU MOVING ON NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS PRESENTATION OF THE UTAH UTILITY TAX CREDIT AWARD FROM PALMETTO ELECTRIC OR ASHLEY FEASTER COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AND ECONOMICS GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING COUNSEL. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO COME TO MY HOMETOWN AND PRESENT MONEY PALMETTO ELECTRIC IS ALWAYS SUPPORTIVE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE THE REGION THAT WE SERVE THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN 226 PUT TOGETHER WHAT WAS CALLED THE RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND WITHIN THAT THEY ALLOWED UTILITIES LIKE COOPERATIVE COMMUNICATIONS UTILITIES TO LEVERAGE TAX LIABILITY ORIGINALLY UP TO $400,000 OF ITS TAX LIABILITY TO PUT TOWARD QUALIFIED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN ITS TERRITORY OR THROUGHOUT THE STATE IN 2022.

THANKFULLY TO OUR OUR STATE LEGISLATORS EFFORT THAT WAS RAISED UP TO 600,000.

SO LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO START CONTRIBUTING 600,000.

THIS YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO DO THE SAME. I'M EXCITED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT YOU ALL PROVIDED US INFORMATION ON A PROJECT YOU HAVE GOING ON THAT'S BEEN CONTINUOUS BUT EVERY YEAR IT CHANGES AND IS BIGGER AND BETTER AND THE BUCKWALTER EMCEE IPM ALSO COUNTY INDUSTRIAL PARK HAS BEEN A HUGE REFLECTION OF PALMETTO ELECTRIC'S SPIRIT

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OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE EXCITED WITH THE NEW PLANS TO BRING IN A LANDING PAD AT THE MCI IP AND WANT TO SUPPORT THAT PALMETTO ELECTRIC IS GOING TO BE CONTRIBUTING $200,000 IN 2023 UTILITY TAX CREDITS TO THAT EFFORT I KNOW I'M ALSO WORKING WITH STAFF TO TRY AND LEVERAGE AND AND FIND SOME GRANT FUNDS WITHIN THE COOPERATIVE NETWORK SO WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL WITH EVEN MORE NEWS GOOD NEWS .

BUT WITH THAT SAID WE'RE EXCITED TO GIVE $200,000 TO THE TOWN OF UPTON AND EXCITED FOR THE PROSPECTS OF WHAT'S TO COME HERE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, THE REALLY OKAY NEXT WE ALL HAVE MR. CHARLIE WETMORE GIVING US AN UPDATE ON THE COUNTY BOARD AS COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE A LIMITED IT WAS SIX MONTHS IF THEY WANTED TO LOOK A POSSIBLE SALES TAX AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SAY GRACIOUSLY OR WHAT YOU MEAN TO ME OR LOOK IT WAS A COMMITTEE THAT CONSISTED OF THE COMMERCE ACTION THREE FROM UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, ONE FROM BEAUFORT RAIL WHICH WAS OUR CHAIRMAN DAVE MOSS, ONE FROM BLUFFTON WHICH WAS A CUSTOMER AND IT HELPED THAT WE WERE TASKED BY COUNTY COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF UP TO THREE INDIVIDUAL TAXES OF UP TO A PENNY EACH MONTH FOR EDUCATION ONE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, ONE FOR TRANSPORTATION. WE MET OVER A SERIES OF I BELIEVE IT WAS 12 WEEKS THE EXACT NUMBERS IN THE HANDOUT I GAVE YOU FOR ABOUT 2 TO 2 AND A HALF HOURS EACH WEEK WE WRESTLED THROUGH THE NEEDS FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR THE INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITIES AND WHAT YOU HOLD IN YOUR HAND IS WHAT WE RECOMMENDED TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND HANDED OVER COUNTY COUNCIL NUMBER 11 YOU KNOW BEFORE I GET INTO MY NEED OF IT JUST SO YOU KNOW THE TIMING COUNTY COUNCIL COUNCIL IS WRESTLING THROUGH THIS NOW THEIR FIRST MEETING WILL BE AT COUNTY COUNCIL FIRST READING WILL BE ON JANUARY 22ND IF IT MOVES FORWARD THE WAY IT'S ANTICIPATED THE SECOND READING WILL BE ON FEBRUARY 12TH.

THE THIRD READING WILL BE ON FEBRUARY THE LAST. I HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF IF I CANNOT ATTEND. I PLAN ON ATTENDING THOSE COUNCIL MEETINGS BUT NOT I WILL DEBRIEF WITH JERRY FOR YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO WHAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED VERSUS WHAT COUNTY COUNCIL NOW ON TO THE MEETING BUT YOU ALL KNOW I MEAN AS SOMEBODY WHO FIRST MOVED TO BLUFFTON IN 94 WE'VE HAD MANY TRANSPORTATION PLANS, REFERENDUMS. IT HAS DONE THINGS LIKE WIDENED TO 78 AND ON 70 AND WELL BELOW BOSTON PARKWAY IT HAS BEEN COUPLED WITH STATE MONEY AND AS YOU KNOW STATE D.O.T. DOES NOT FREE UP MONEY UNLESS THERE'S A LOCAL MAPS TOWARDS THAT AND THIS IS DESIGNED TO HELP GET THAT LOCAL MARKET TOWARDS WE WRESTLED WITH THE THREE POTENTIAL TAXES AND AS COMMITTEE DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE RECOMMEND ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE TRANSPORTATION TAX COUNTY COUNCIL TO UP FOR REFERENDUM TO THE VOTERS WE THOUGHT IT WAS THAT IMPORTANT AND YOU'LL READ IN THE NOTES IN HERE THAT BEEN MASTERED WE FEEL THAT WE'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL WE'RE NOT TRYING TO KEEP ANYMORE. WE ARE BEHIND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE POPULATION HAS AND IS MOVING HERE AND THE POPULATION THAT GOES THROUGH THE COUNTY ONE OF THE THINGS BEFORE I GET INTO THE SPECIFICS IS WE WRESTLED WITH IS IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FOUR AND FIVE OUT OF EVERY TEN UNCOLLECTED FOR BY TOURISTS BUT ALSO 40 TO 50% OF THE MONEY THAT WILL COME INTO THIS IF IT'S PASSED BY THE VOTERS WILL BE COMING FROM TOURISTS WHO ARE USING THE VERY THAT WE'RE HAVING TO WIDEN PARTIALLY BECAUSE SO OUR OPINION IS COMMITTEE THAT WAS A FAIR AND EQUITABLE WAY TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THE

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ROADS NOT JUST THE LOCALS TO PAY FOR THE ROADS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SO ON.

YOU KNOW POINT TWO ON PAGE ONE JUST WENT THROUGH BASICALLY WHAT WAS SAYING IS IF YOU WOULD TURN THE PAGE TO IT TALKS ABOUT THE COMMITTEE PROCESS, IT TALKS ABOUT WHO THE MEMBERS FIVE OF THE SIX MEMBERS WERE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT THE PREVIOUS YEAR TO LOOK INTO IT AND WE ENDED UP DELAYING IT BY A YEAR BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FEEL WAS THE TIME FOR THE VOTERS LOOK AT IT PAGE THREE WE GET INTO THE CONCEPTS BEHIND RECOMMENDATION SO WE HAD TWO BASIC NEEDS IN THIS COUNTY WE HAVE BIG PROJECTS SO FOR EXAMPLE I'M 170 FROM 278 UP TO 62. HEADING TOWARDS IS A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE.

NOW THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES WHERE THERE'S THERE TRAFFIC FLOW ISSUES THE BIG PROJECTS ARE TO ADDRESS THOSE TYPE OF ITEMS. THEN THERE ARE PROJECT PROGRAMS WHERE WE DEAL WITH MORE GENERALIZED AREAS SUCH AS MASS TRANSIT PATHWAYS WHERE IT MAY NOT IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO BUT THAT'S A BUCKET OF MONEY TO GO TOWARDS THAT ISSUE AND THAT SO THE PROPOSAL WE CAME UP WITH I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING THIS BUT I BELIEVE IN IT 100% AND THE COMMITTEE DOES IS A PENNY SALES FOR 15 YEARS OR SOONER IF IT'S COLLECTED BUT NO LONGER THAN 15 YEARS THAT WILL RAISE AN ESTIMATED $1.65 BILLION OF THESE NEEDS. WE'RE NOT TALKING FOUR YEAR TAXES THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN THE PAST BECAUSE WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD RAISE THE MONEY AND THE PROJECTS WOULDN'T BE DONE BY THE TIME WE COMING BACK TO SAY WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY AND IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ANYTHING YOU WANT ME TO CARRY ON LET'S HAVE INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS. SO IF YOU GO ON OR YOU IT STARTS TALKING ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID ABOUT THE 1.65 BILLION BUT IF YOU LOOK SO ON THE BIG PROJECTS AND MOUNTS THERE NINE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES CATEGORY ONE, THREE, FIVE, EIGHT AND NINE ALL DIRECTLY AFFECT EITHER BLUFFTON OR TO BLUFFTON.

NUMBER ONE DEALS WITH THE TRIANGLE WHICH IS THAT IS WHAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT 170 FROM 278 ON NORTH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK IN BLUFFTON COMMUTE FROM THAT AREA AND.

THEY GET STACKED UP IN THERE. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING $100 MILLION TOWARDS CAPACITY AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND REDESIGNING ROAD SO THAT IT CAN HANDLE THE TRAFFIC.

NUMBER TWO IS A NORTH OF THE BROAD PROJECT FOR RAINBOW ROAD IMPROVEMENTS FOR 75 MILLION NUMBER THREE HIGHWAY 46 IMPROVEMENTS THIS IS FROM THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE OUT TO THE COUNTY LINE NOW I KNOW HOPEFULLY ONE OF YOUR CONCERNS IS WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR AS AND THAT IS THAT IS A STATE DESIGNATED HISTORIC ROAD WILL WE LOSE THAT DESIGNATION IF IT BECOMES FOUR LANES THAT BEEN RESEARCHED AND THAT IS IT WILL NOT LOSE THAT DESIGNATION IF IT BECOMES THE STATE HAS THAT AND IS IN WHAT WE WROTE UP AND YOU CAN SEE THE LAST SENTENCE IN SECTION THREE DESIGNATES THE PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE DESIGNED SO AS TO PRESERVE SOUTH SCENIC BYWAY DESIGNATION NUMBER FOUR LADY'S ISLAND CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS THOSE ARE IMPROVEMENTS WERE PASSED IN A PREVIOUS REFERENDUM BUT MONEY RAN OUT SO THAT'S THE FINISH SO IT'S PROJECTS NUMBER FIVE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND ACTUALLY NUMBER FIVE NUMBER SIX NUMBER SEVEN ARE ALL THE SAME THING SO ONE IS HELPING HAVE 60,000,001 IS NORTH OF BROAD 60,000,001 IS LESS THAN 60 MILLION. THE PROCESS OF THE COMMITTEE IS THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES NO KNOWS WHAT IS NEEDED IN THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITIES.

SO WE WANTED TO HAVE THESE MONEYS TRIGGERED BY THE LOCAL ENTITIES DON'T HAVE TOWN COUNCIL LEFT IN TOWN COUNCIL AND THE PORT ROYAL VIEW FIRST IN THE NORTH OF THE BRIDGE AND WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY TO GET THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN MY STATE.

OKAY THE COUNTY DOESN'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT IT IS EXPECT BUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND WORK HERE WITH THAT THEY BELIEVE TRULY AS WE APPROACH COUNTY COUNCIL THEY WANT THE INPUT AND THE DIRECTION FROM THE LOCAL ENTITIES SO THAT 60 MILLION WHEN WE STARTED WAS

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ZERO SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT THERE NUMBER EIGHT IS HIGHWAY TO 78 PROJECT ENHANCEMENT THAT'S $60 MILLION BASICALLY ALONG THE MAIN CORRIDOR THROUGHOUT WASHINGTON . OKAY. AND AS IT APPROACHES TO 78 AND THEN FUTURE PROJECTS, WE KNOW THERE ARE GOING TO BE COST OVERRUNS MAYBE THE STATE MATCH AS MUCH AS WE HOPE OR GIVE AS MUCH AS WE HOPE INTEREST RATE AND COST GOES UP.

SO THERE'S A BUCKET THERE FOR FUTURE MONEY SO THAT THE COUNTY AND THE TOWNS COMING BACK TO PEOPLE ASKING FOR MORE THAT'S THE FIRST PART THE BIG PROJECT PROGRAMS THE SECOND PART I'M SORRY BIG PROJECTS. THE SECOND PART IS PROJECT PROGRAMS IN AMOUNT AND JUST HEAD IT QUICKLY. RIGHT. $100 MILLION FOR MASS TRANSIT.

WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT THE WAY TO MOVE PEOPLE AROUND HERE. THAT IS FOR PLANNING AND POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION OF CERTAIN SOLUTIONS SAFETY AND TRAFFIC FLOW $250 MILLION PEDESTRIAN ACCESS PROGRAMED STOPLIGHTS ARE IN THIS CATEGORY AND I BELIEVE ONE OTHER AS THEY GET SMARTER ON HOW TO DO SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS AND THE COMPUTER CONTROLS IT'S GOING TO BE EASIER FOR TRAFFIC FLOW BUT THAT DOES COST MONEY EMERGENCY AND RESILIENCY OF A NUMBER OF PARTS OF THE COUNTY WHEN IT RAINS SIGNIFICANTLY ARE UNDERWATER SUCH OUR NEIGHBOR AND ALL JOY THIS WILL HELP ISSUES ON ROADWAYS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEM ABOVE THE FLOOD PLAIN WHEN WE HAVE HEAVY RAINS WE HAVE ISSUES AND THERE'S SIGNIFICANT ISSUES IN NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS WELL PAVEMENT RESURFACING AND PRESERVATION AND IT'S ONLY A SCRATCH ON THE SURFACE AT 180,000,180 MILLION FOR PATHWAYS WE ALL SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED AS WE PLAN PATHWAYS AND BLOSSOM PEOPLE ARE OUT ON THEM ALL THE TIME THIS IS FOR ADDITIONAL PATHWAYS THE COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT BLUFFTON THERE'S A SECOND ONE DEALING WITH TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGY OF 90 MILLION AND THEN OF COURSE WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE AND IT'S TERMED HERE AND THIS IS BECAUSE THE STATE REQUIRES IT TO BE TERMED GREEN BELTS BUT GREEN SPACE OF $85 MILLION IN THIS THE REST OF THE DOCUMENT DEALS WITH OUR RECOMMENDED ON HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT THE COUNCIL MAY OR MAY NOT TAKE WE RECOMMENDED COUNTY COMMITTEE THAT WORKS WITH THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT MAKES THE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO THE COUNTY WHO HAS THE ULTIMATE DECISION MAKING POWER IN THIS PROCESS AND THROUGH THE SIX COMMITTEE MEMBERS AGREED 100% ON THIS PLAN AND WE PUT I MEAN YOU KNOW YOU APPOINTED US WE GET PAID A BIG FAT INCOME.

WE DRIVE A LONG WAY TO BE THESE MEETINGS. WE'VE INVESTED 25, 30 HOURS OF OUR LIVES IN THE MEETINGS ALONG THE PREP AND AFTER WORK AND I THINK WE CAME OUT WITH A REAL GOOD PRODUCT. THE COUNTY'S GOING TO LOOK TOWARDS THE MUNICIPAL AS TO WHETHER THEY THINK IT'S THEIR PRODUCT OR NOT AS WELL AS YOU ALL KNOW I KNOW A NUMBER OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE FOR PREVIOUS ONES IF THERE IS A BUY IN FROM THE WHOLE COUNTY THE COUNTY PROBABLY WON'T DO IT BECAUSE IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING THAT APPEALS TO THE VOTERS AND THE VOTERS MAKE THE ULTIMATE DECISION. I TOLD YOU THE TIMING OF THE COUNTY DEALING WITH IT, THE TIMING OF THE REFERENDUM THAT WE RECOMMENDED WAS TO PUT IT ON THE 2024 GENERAL ELECTION IT WOULD START AT 25. WE CURRENTLY A 7% SALES TAX ON CURRENT GREEN SPACE TAX THAT IS GOING TO HIT A $200 MILLION GOAL EARLY PROBABLY EARLY MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR DROP FROM 7% TO 6% AND BEFORE COUNTY ALL THIS IS DOING IS SAY LET'S PUT IT BACK UP TO THE 7% WE'RE USED TO AND USE THAT MONEY FIX THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT KNOW ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS YEAH I HAVE A FEW DEFINITELY TO SEE THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS MADE PROGRESS THAT YOU ALL ARE IDENTIFYING THE NEEDS HERE BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY IS DEFINITELY A GROWING PROBLEM HERE ONE CONCERN THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDRESSED WITH THE COMMITTEE OR I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALREADY DISCUSSED IT BUT TO BECOME A REFERENDUM ITEM YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THE VOTERS BYE BYE. AND WITH THAT MY IS TO LOOK AT WHAT A CURRENT MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE RIGHT NOW ARE ISSUES WITH ROADS IN BLOCKED IN LIKE THE PARKWAY WHY WERE THERE POTHOLES AND OTHER THINGS AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SAFETY FOR CITIZENS DRIVING THOSE ROADS IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO KIND OF CONVINCE THEM AS WE WERE WANTING TO DO A TAX INCREASE IF WE CAN'T ADDRESS HOW WE ARE CURRENTLY

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MAINTAINING THE ROADS WE HAVE WITHOUT ABOUT EXPANDING AND ADDING ADDITIONAL ONES I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE THAT TO HAPPEN ALSO IN LOOKING AT THE MASS TRANSIT PROJECT MENTIONED, THERE'S ONE CONSIDERATION TO TO THINK OF IS AS WE HAVE PALMETTO BREEZE AND OTHER TRANSIT IN THE AREA IT WOULD BE NICE TO CONSIDER YOU KNOW AN IMMEDIATE REPRIEVE WOULD BE LOOKING AT COMMUTER LOTS LIKE WE HAVE THEM YOU KNOW IN OPERATION BUT CURRENTLY IF SOMEONE WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO PARK THEIR CAR IN IN YOU KNOW USE THAT AS AN OPTION SO AS YOU KNOW THIS COMES TO FULL SCALE JUST SOME THINGS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE ACCESS THANK YOU TO MAYBE EASE YOUR MIND A LITTLE BIT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY POTHOLE ISSUES ARE ACTUALLY A WARRANTY THAT ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF BUT THAT IS A BIG OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT'S IN HERE AND I MEAN LET'S BE REALISTIC THIS THIS 15 YEAR ■PLANPROBABLYAS IT'S WINDING DOWN WILL END UP BEING ANOTHER PLAN JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES AND INCREASE TAXES ELSEWHERE. BUT YES, WE DID TALK ABOUT MAINTENANCE AND I'LL BRING THAT BACK AGAIN TO YOUR FOLKS AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT FROM THE COUNTY THE MASS TRANSIT WE DID DISCUSS COMMUTER LOSS AND THE IMPORTANCE THAT WE ALSO DISCUSSED. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ROOT OUT SOME BLUFFTON THAT ARE THERE GOING THEY'RE NOT USED THAT MUCH BUT THEY'RE USED MORE THAN THEY USED TO AND HOW DO WE HOW DO WE GET TO USE THAT MORE OFTEN? DO WE GET SOMEBODY TO HOP ON IT AT BUCKWALTER AND COME TO OLD TOWN INSTEAD OF DRIVING TO OLD TOWN AND PARKING YOU KNOW SO I'LL BRING BOTH OF THOSE BACK DEFINITELY. THANK YOU IN PERSON AND THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF AREAS THAT YOU FIND TO BE IMPORTANT FOR US AS A COUNTY BUT THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS OR A LOT OF I GUESS YOU CAN'T PUT IT ALL IN THIS DOCUMENT AND MAYBE WE HAVE TO HAVE YOU COME WHEN YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT TO IMPROVE IMPORTANT IS IT WHAT WOULD IMPROVEMENT SHOULD WE EXPECT TO SEE IN THIS DOCUMENT YOU CAN SEE THAT IS KIND OF GENERIC AND AS WELL AS HOW WOULD YOU USE THE KIND OF RESERVE MONEY THAT JUST SAYS $175 MILLION IT'S KIND OF LIKE JUST CONTINUOUS MONEY, CONTINGENCY MONEY BUT.

IT HAS NO TRUE DEFINITION OR DESIGNATION ON ORDERS WOULDN'T TO ME BE IN FAVOR OF SAYING WE'RE GOING TO RAISE MONEY. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO BE SPENT.

IT'S I THINK I THINK A MEETING WITH YOU, ME AND, JARED MIGHT HELP IF YOU'RE OPEN TO THAT JUST A THERE ARE SOME SPECIFICS IN THERE AND YOU'RE RIGHT IT HARD TO PUT IT INTO THIS DOCUMENT AND PART OF IT IS IT WOULD JUST BE TOO MUCH VERBIAGE BUT PART OF IT IS IT'S NOT FULLY DESIGNED YET BECAUSE THE MONEY WASN'T THERE TO EVEN START DESIGNING IT UNTIL LAST YEAR DESIGNING. SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THE PART OF THE CHALLENGE OF A 15 YEAR PLAN IS WE KNOW COSTS ARE GOING TO GO UP BUT WE DON'T KNOW BY HOW MUCH OR WHEN AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT THAT THAT MAY END UP BEING COSTS LIKE I MEAN WE'VE HAD TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS. THE LAST ONE LADY'S ISLAND FELL SHORT BY 30 TO 40000001 BACK IN 2006 THERE WAS A PROJECT HERE IN BLUFFTON THAT DIDN'T GET DONE BECAUSE THEY RAN OUT OF MONEY. SO THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF THE COMMITTEE WHETHER IT HOLDS UP TO COUNCIL OR TO THE VOTERS NOW. BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE VERY VALID POINTS. BUT I'D LIKE TO SET UP A MEETING IF YOU WANT TO KNOW CIRCLE THINKING CHARLIE I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS BUT FOR YOU HOW ARE THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS PRIORITIZED AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING TO GET DONE IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS WHAT'S GOING TO GET DONE YOU KNOW I KNOW YOU CAN'T SAY FOR SURE BUT YOU KNOW SOMEBODY GOING TO BE 15 YEARS OUT STARTING A PROJECT, YOU KNOW WELL HOPEFULLY ALL THE PROJECTS WILL ACTUALLY BE STARTED WITHIN 6 TO 8 YEARS. THE AVERAGE PROJECT DOES TAKE ABOUT SEVEN YEARS TO START FROM CONCEPTUAL TO ACTUAL TURNING AND THAT SCARES ME BECAUSE SOME OF THIS STUFF NEEDS TO BE DONE BUT THE PRIORITIZATION IS TIED INTO. THE LAST PLAN IT'S Y'ALL'S

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GOALS WITH THE WHOLE REGION ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND THEN IT STEPS BACK TO WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITIES OR AREAS IS YOU HAVE A LOT OF WEIGHT ON WHAT GETS DONE HERE.

OKAY BECAUSE YOU GO HOME AND YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO BE ASKING YOU WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON, YOU KNOW, SO WE DISCUSSED THAT AT LENGTH AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION OR NOT REALLY. BUT SO WHAT MAYOR YOU'RE THROUGH I'M SORRY.

MY NEXT QUESTION IS HAS THERE BEEN ANY PLANNING OR TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, IF THIS PENNY IS IS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS WE CAN SAY WHAT WE WANT BUT I DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT PEOPLE HAVE APPROVED TO PAY AS FAR AS BONDING THAT PENNY ARE DOING THESE PROJECTS WITHIN YOU KNOW A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME INSTEAD OF WAITING EIGHT AND TEN YEARS FROM NOW WHERE THE COST OF DOING THE SAME THING IS DOUBLED, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO NEED DOUBLE THE MONEY AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ACCOMPLISH SOMETIMES HERE TO GO AHEAD GET STUFF DONE INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL THE PRICE OF THE PROJECT DOUBLES FIVE YEARS SIX YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. WELL OUR RECOMMENDED ATION WAS TO BOND EVERYTHING IMMEDIATELY AND COUNTY STAFF'S DESIRE IS FOR THE SAME THING IS TO BOND RIGHT AWAY AND GET GOING. THE 6 TO 8 YEARS IS FROM STARTING DESIGN TO STARTING CONSTRUCTION AND SOMETIMES IT TAKES TWO, SOMETIMES IT TAKES TEN.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SCOPE AND SIZE OF THE PROJECT THE WHOLE TIME IT'S.

A IT'S A MAJOR CONCERN. IT'S A MAJOR CONCERN BECAUSE BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR COSTS HAVE GONE UP. LOOK AT EVERYTHING OUT THERE WITHIN THE COUNTY COUNCIL RIGHT ? YEAH THE COUNTY COUNCIL WHEN THEY WHEN APPROVE THE REFERENDUM IT WILL SAY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE BONDED IMMEDIATELY IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO THAT AND IT WILL BE PART THE REFERENDUM. BUT WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE DECISION WITH HOW WANT THE MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT THE PROCESS AS COUNTY COUNCIL AND IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND KEEP IN MIND TOO THAT THIS MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT THE MONEY THAT IT WILL COST TO DO THESE PROJECTS. IT'S A PORTION OF THAT MONEY AND THERE IS THE ANTICIPATION THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WHERE WE GO D.O.T. AND D.O.T. FUNDS PROJECTS BASED ON SEED MONEY COMING IT IF THERE'S NO SEED MONEY COMING INTO IT THAT'S A LOWER PROJECT FOR THE STATE. AND SO WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF MONEY IN THIS COUNTY FROM THE STATE TO DO PROJECTS THE BRIDGE THAT'S ABOUT TO GET STARTED ON THE WAY TO HILTON HEAD THAT THAT WAS I BELIEVE DON'T HOLD ME TO THIS BUT IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 80 MILLION THAT CAME FROM COUNTY VOTERS AND THE SALES TAX REFERENDUM BUT IT'S A $250 MILLION PROJECT AND THE REST IS COMING FROM THE STATE.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE COUNTING ON FOR THIS TO BE A YES OR I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT TO REALLY STUDY THIS AND PAY GREAT ATTENTION TO IT IF IMAGINE WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND YOU IMAGINE WE WILL BE IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING YOU NEED TO CONSIDER THAT SO AGAIN I WOULD HIGHLY REQUEST THAT YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THIS BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S QUALITY OF LIFE IS IMPACTED. THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS AGAIN I KNOW THIS IS TECHNICAL STUFF AND IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET THROUGH EVERYTHING. IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS. FRED ASKED THAT YOU CAN'T PUT EVERYTHING IN HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK ALL HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LOW HANGING FRUIT FOR EXAMPLE SYNCHRONIZATION OF THE SIGNALS CIVILIZATION, THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT YOU KNOW THAT'S THE LOW HANGING FRUIT. I'M ASSUMING THAT THOSE WOULD BE SOME OF THE FIRST THINGS TACKLE. YES SIR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'VE WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND I WILL SAY TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID, COUNCILMAN, WOULD THINK ABOUT FOR THOSE OF US THAT WERE HERE IN THE LATE NINETIES THERE WAS NO BLUFFTON PARKWAY 170 WAS TWO LANES TO 70 IT WAS FOUR LANES AND ENDED IT AT 170 IF WE HADN'T DONE THE PREVIOUS REFERENDUMS AND BUILT THESE ROADS WITH THE POPULATION WE HAVE HERE NOW IT WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE IN MY OPINION AND AS A COMMUNITY OPINION WE'VE GOT SOME TO DO.

COUNTY COUNCIL HAS WORK TO DO AND THEY HAVE WORK TO DO WITH Y'ALL BUT THIS IS THE PATH TO

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KEEP A DISASTER FROM HAPPENING SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE YOUR POINTING ME TO THAT COMMITTEE. THE NEXT ONE THAT NEEDS A 12 WEEK COMMITMENT FEEL FREE TO APPOINT SOMEBODY ELSE. I WANT TO TELL YOU THANK YOU. I KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU PUT ON THIS AND A HARD I MEAN ANY TIME YOU'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT PAYING MORE TAXES, THAT'S THAT'S A HARD UPHILL BATTLE RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW, NONE OF US WANT TO BUT ALSO FOR EVERYONE ELSE TO KNOW COUNTY IS GOING TO DO THIS ANYWAY.

SO CHARLIE HAS BEEN REPRESENTING THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TRYING TO MAKE THAT WHEN THIS PENNY REFERENDUM DOES OUT WHETHER IT'S APPROVED OR NOT THAT THAT AT LEAST WE GET BACK FROM OUR FROM OUR MONEY AND ALL THE MONEY WE PAY IN AND WE WON'T GET YOU KNOW THEY WON'T JUST GET A NEW BRIDGE GOING TO HILTON HEAD. MAYBE WE WILL GET SOME NEW ROADS COMING IN HERE AND SOME IMPROVEMENTS DRY INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND YOUR YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB REPRESENTING US AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. NEXT HAVE THE BLUFFTON ANNUAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT UPDATE MISS HEATHER COLLINS SAYS THAT TOWN MANAGER SUE ENGLISH MEANING HI.

SO I'M HERE TO JUST PRESENT TO YOU THE ANNUAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT UPDATE.

THERE'S NO ACTION NEEDED ON THIS ITEM ESPECIALLY ANNUALLY THERE IS I DO HAVE HARD COPIES BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THIS PACKET IT'S SMALL IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DEVICE OR LOOKED AT IT ONLINE I DO HAVE SOME HARD COPIES. I CAN CERTAINLY GET MORE IF NEEDED SO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AN A-MINUS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SEE IT A-MINUS YOU MAY THINK IF YOU'RE REALLY TOUGH MAY THINK I COULD HAVE DONE BETTER OR YOU KNOW GREAT JOB WAY TO GO THAT EQUATES TO SOMETHING IN YOUR HEAD WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT IN MINUS YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CONVERT THAT TO MATH AND IT WOULD BE 92% WELL 92% IS THE AMOUNT OF LAND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS ENCUMBERED IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR A ZONED PUD.

SO THAT'S AN EASY WAY TO REMEMBER A-MINUS NOT A GOOD OR BAD.

IT SIMPLY EQUATES TO A NUMBER SO 92% SO THAT'S A LOT OF LAND O THIS MAP HERE SHOWS WHAT AREA IS ZONED BEAUTY OR ZONE HAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IT'S EVERYTHING IN THAT LIGHT GREEN THERE'S MORE MAPS IN THE PACKET AND ONLINE AS FAR AS ALL THOSE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BUT THIS KIND OF JUST GIVES YOU A VISUAL TO SHOW YOU ALL OF THE LAND THAT IS BOUND BY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THERE'S SEVEN OF THEM AND THEY'RE ALL A LITTLE DIFFERENT. SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED LATELY AS FAR AS WHAT EXACTLY IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? WELL, IT'S BASICALLY A PLANNING TOOL THAT IS A LEGALLY BINDING ALMOST LIKE A CONTRACT OR AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN. THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TOWN OF BLUFFTON IN THIS CASE AND THE PROPERTY OF FOR LARGE DEVELOPMENT TRACTS IT'S ESSENTIALLY LIKE I SAID THAT PLANNING TOOL TO MANAGE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AT THE TIME I'LL OFTEN I DESCRIBE THIS AS YOU MAY SEE YOU KNOW CURB CUTS TO NOWHERE ALONG OUR PARKWAYS YOU MAY SEE DEAD END INTERNAL STREETS IN SOME OF OUR COMMERCIAL AREAS AND DEVELOPMENT WHILE THOSE ARE PLANNED TO LATER CONNECT ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT OR ADJACENT AREAS SO THEY WILL AT SOME GO SOMEWHERE SO WE HAVE THE TOWN AND THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPERS AT THE TIME HAVE ALREADY ENVISIONED THAT WHETHER OR NOT YOU KNOW SOME PEOPLE'S SUBJECTIVE GOOD BAD INDIFFERENT BUT THAT ALL PLANNED FOR AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL YEARS AGO AGAIN IT ESTABLISHES CLEAR SO WE HAVE IN ONE OF THE PAGES IN YOUR PACKET THERE'S A LIST THAT STATES WHAT THE MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE COMMERCIAL SPACE SOMETIMES IT'S MEASURED IN ACREAGE IT'S MEASURED IN SQUARE FEET BUT ALL OF THAT IS DETERMINED THAT IS A PART OF THAT APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IT ALSO GOES AHEAD AND LISTS OUT THE PUBLIC DEDICATIONS OF RIGHT OF WAYS ROAD SO WHERE ARE THOSE FUTURE ROADS GOING TO BE WHETHER IT'S THE DEDICATION OF AN EASEMENT FOR THAT ROAD TO BE BUILT IN THE FUTURE, WHETHER IT'S FOR PARKS WE HAVE THE OSCAR FRAZIER PARK THAT WAS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR SCHULZE TRACT WHETHER IT'S A PUBLIC DOC PALMETTO BLUFF. SO ALL OF THAT IS DETERMINED AND NEGOTIATED AT TIME OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED AND IT ALSO LOCKS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AT THE TIME SO MANY THE EARLIER DEVELOPMENT

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AGREEMENTS FALL UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WE REFERRED TO AS THE SO OR THE ZONING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ORDINANCE THAT WAS IN EFFECT WITH COUNTY AT THE TIME.

SO THOSE ARE THE ESSENTIALLY THE RULES THAT ARE LOCKED IN AS YOU KNOW, SOME OF RULES DO CHANGE AND CAN APPLY AS THEY CHANGE STORMWATER REGULATIONS AND TREES BECAUSE THAT'S A TOWN WIDE REGULATION. IT'S THE STATE REGULATION NO MATTER WHERE YOU'RE LOCATED OR WHAT YOUR ZONING DISTRICT IS. SO ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WE'RE ASKED ON A REGULAR BASIS IS CAN THEY CHANGED? WELL, NOW THAT WE SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING, CAN YOU CHANGE IT? CAN WE REVISIT THAT? WELL, IT DEPENDS. YES THEY CAN CHANGE.

HOWEVER IT'S IF CERTAIN THINGS TAKE PLACE THE MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUESTED THE DEVELOPER TO THE TOWN. SO FOR INSTANCE IF THE DEVELOPER THE LEAD EXCUSE ME THE MOST RECENT MODIFICATION IN PALMETTO BLUFF SO PALMETTO BLUFF CAME BEFORE TOWN COUNCIL AND SUBMITTED THAT REQUEST ALL PARTIES DO HAVE TO AGREE SO THAT WE'VE HAD REQUESTS COME BEFORE TOWN COUNCIL TO MODIFY A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THEN THEY'VE BEEN WITHDRAWN.

THE MODIFICATIONS ARE CONSIDERED BY TOWN COUNCIL AND THAT IS DONE VIA ORDINANCE SO IT GOES THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS AGAIN GOES TO PLANNING ,GOES THROUGH THAT ENTIRE EXCUSE ME NOT PLANNING PERMISSION BUT THAT PUBLIC REVIEW TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS AND ALL THAT DEPENDS SO THEY CAN CHANGE BUT IF THEY MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA THIS HERE IS A MAP THAT SHOWS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND AND WHERE THEY ARE IN TERMS OF BUILD OUT. SO THE PERCENTAGE NOW SOME THINGS DO GET A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING AND SO IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS PLEASE CALL TOWN STAFF WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP BUT BUILD OUT CAN MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS IT CAN SIMPLY IT CAN MEAN THE SUBDIVISION OF A LOT ONCE YOU'VE SUBDIVIDED THAT LOT IT'S UTILIZED SO YOU CAN BUILD THAT HOUSE OR IT'S THE CONSTRUCTION SO YOU MAY NOT ALWAYS VISUALLY SEE THAT BUILD OUT BUT THAT PROJECT OR APPLICATION HAS BEEN APPROVED AND SO ESSENTIALLY THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.

SO IF YOU TRY IF GO AHEAD AND AVERAGE IT ALL UP WE ARE ABOUT AT 77% RESIDENTIAL BUILDOUT AND AGAIN THAT'S PLATTED LOTS SO THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE PHYSICAL HOME IS THERE AN OCCUPIED BUT THERE IS A SUBDIVIDED PLAT A LEGAL LOT THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE AND BUILD A HOUSE OR THERE'S AN ACTUAL HOUSE THERE WE REFER TO ALL OF THE REST AS NONRESIDENTIAL BUILD OUT BECAUSE THAT COULD BE CIP THAT, COULD BE CIVIC SPACE, THAT COULD BE INSTITUTIONAL, THAT COULD BE OFFICE, THAT COULD BE COMMERCIAL AND IN DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS IT COULD BE HOTELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE STILL HAVE A LOT REMAINING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S STILL TO BE UTILIZED BUT WE'RE AT APPROXIMATELY 6% TOTAL BUILD OUT. WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OVER HALFWAY .

SO AND AGAIN THIS MAP JUST SHOWS THE DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES .

ALL THOSE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS MOVE THROUGH AND LIKE I SAID WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL UP YOU'RE AT 92% THIS I DON'T ANYONE TO READ FROM THE SCREEN BUT WE ALSO KEEP TRACK WHAT ALL THE DIFFERENT PLAN COMMUNITIES HAVE SO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PLANNED COMMUNITIES, THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS HOW MANY UNITS ARE EXPECTED BECAUSE IT ALL DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY AND AN IMPACT ON AS WE SAW WHAT MOORE JUST SPOKE ABOUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THIS IS ON OUR WEBSITE. IT IS TITLED A PLAN COMMUNITIES MAP.

IT'S UNDER OUR MAP GALLERIES AND WE DO KEEP THIS UPDATE AS WELL.

SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP TRACK OF WHAT RESIDENTIAL IS THERE? THAT'S A BRIEF OVERVIEW. LIKE I SAID AS YOU ALL KNOW WHO'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, THERE'S LOTS OF NUMBERS AND INFORMATION IN THE PACKET BUT WE DO KEEP TRACK OF THAT.

WE ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE BECAUSE WE NEED TO ENVISION HOW FAR WE ALONG WITH THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND AS TIME GOES ON THERE CONTINUE THEY'RE GETTING CLOSER TO EXPIRATION AND SO WE'RE WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH LEGAL AS FAR AS WHAT EXACTLY THAT THAT MEANS MOVING FORWARD BUT THAT'S JUST A GENERAL OVERVIEW AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR ONE THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND I THINK ALWAYS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS WHO OFTEN YOU KNOW, HAVE QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF WHY CERTAIN THINGS ARE ALLOWED IN ONE AREA AND NOT THE NEXT AND NOT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING A PWD OR AREA THAT HAS THE TOWN'S MASTER PLAN WITH THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION I KNOW IT'S ACCESSIBLE BECAUSE, IT'S ON THE AGENDA BUT IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS THIS LANGUAGE IN A WAY IS EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO DIGEST AND THAT'S A VERY FREQUENT CONCERN THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE FOR BEING ABLE TO GO SOMEWHERE AND SEE THAT AND KNOW WHERE ARE WHAT IT MEANS WITH THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS I THINK

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I'LL BE DOING SURE I'LL BE HAPPY TO AND JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE KNOWLEDGE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AS YOU INDICATE HAVE A SHELF LIFE SUPPOSEDLY AND I THINK IT WAS DURING THE RECESSION OF 2000 AND TERMINATOR EIGHT NINE THAT THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA LEGISLATION WAS PASSED TO EXTEND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ACROSS THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. THEY KIND OF FROZE THINGS IN PLACE.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO REMEMBER WHAT THAT PERIOD OF TIME WAS FOR? YES, I DO.

AND SO JUST TO START TO GO BACK ,ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WERE INITIALLY APPROVED FOR TEN YEARS WITH OUR ORDINANCE AND THEN THEY HAD AN AUTOMATIC TEN YEAR RENEWAL.

SO WASN'T EVEN EXTENSION. SO THAT GAVE 2020 YEARS INITIAL FROM WHEN IT WAS APPROVED TO WHEN IT WOULD EXPIRE THE TOWN AND I BELIEVE AT TWO DIFFERENT INSTANCES I LOOK TO YOUR ATTORNEY TO CLARIFY THIS BUT IT TOTALED NINE YEARS BASICALLY WHERE THEY STOPPED THE CLOCK THERE WAS INITIAL I BELIEVE SEVEN AND THEN THEY DID IT AGAIN FOR TWO MORE YEARS LATER.

SO THE STATE'S HAD ANY PLANNING APPROVALS DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS THEY WERE STOPPED THERE THEIR CLOCK IN THERE AS THEIR CLOCK TICKED EXPIRE THEY'RE ON HOLD. SO THAT WAS A TOTAL OF NINE YEARS. SO ESSENTIALLY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE VALID 29 YEARS AND THAT INITIAL APPROVAL ME AND THE STATE COULD DO IT AGAIN BUT THAT'S UP TO THE POLICE SAY WE'RE ABOUT 55% BUILD A BUILD OUT WAS A TOTAL DO WE HAVE ANY WAY OF MEASURING WHAT THOSE OTHER 45% TO LOOK LIKE WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE REMAINING BUILD OUT NOT NECESSARILY BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS YOU KNOW AND FOR THE AS WELL IS ANY DEVELOPMENT OF A CERTAIN IF A DEVELOPMENT IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD TO HAVE AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION ONE TOWN COUNCIL A LOT OF THAT REMAINING 45% DOES HAVE ONE. IF IT DOES IT CAN FORWARD THAT INITIAL MASTER PLAN DOES HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF PLANNING COMMISSION THEN AFTER THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN WHICH IS HIGHER LEVEL MORE CONCEPTUAL WHEN YOU GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE ENGINEERING AND TREES AND STORMWATER AND WHERE THINGS ARE GOING TO GO THAT REQUIRES A DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS A IS GOES THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT GOES THROUGH SEVERAL LAYERS OF REVIEW WITH PUBLIC INPUT.

SO AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PLACE OR THEY JUST OH YES AND I'M SORRY MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD THE BUILD OUT THAT 45% YES. HAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THE OTHER 8% THAT'S NOT IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THAT FOLLOWS OUR WE HAVE A HYBRID OF A FORM BASED CODE AND TRADITIONAL SO IT AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE UNIFYING ORDINANCE IT CAN MOVE FORWARD SO I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT IT WOULD LIKE BUT AGAIN IT DOES HAVE LAYERS OF REVIEW BUT I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE BECAUSE THAT'S AS CREATIVE AS YOU CAN GET WITH FITTING YOUR IN YOUR PLAN AND MAKING INFRASTRUCTURE WORK.

I I KNOW THIS PROBABLY A VERY HARD TO TO MEASURE BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE DO CODE TO THE DEVELOPERS TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE USUALLY TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE IN HOW WE GO SMILE YOU KNOW COUNCIL HAS ALSO GIVEN STAFF AND AND AND OUR OFFICE INSTRUCTIONS ANY TIME THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF REDUCING RESIDENTIAL IF A DEVELOPER WANTS TO REOPEN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WANTS TO RENEGOTIATE SOMETHING THAT IS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY ASKED FOR IT WE CALL MANY YEARS AGO DEVELOP THE TOWN DENSITY BANK US NOTHING LID BUT IT'S WORKED AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

NO STAFF IS THAT'S ONE OF THEIR TOOLS EVERY TIME THE APPRAISAL COMES UP THEY DO.

YEAH YEAH. ONE MORE QUESTION. SO GOING OFF OF SOMETHING COUNCILMAN ALLEN SINCE THEN SO IN KNOWING WHERE WE ARE WITH THE BUILDOUT RIGHT NOW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE IN PLACE AS LONG AS THEY'RE COMPLIANT BY THE UDALL THEN ABLE TO DO WHATEVER ARE WE OR HAVE WE GONE IN AND AT WAYS THAT OUR UDALL CURRENTLY DOESN'T APPLY CURRENTLY TO WHERE WE ARE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GROWTH I.E. LIKE THE THE PREVIOUS THE CURRENT PROJECT THAT'S BEING BUILT OUT ON ONE SIDE AS WELL.

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YES. SO LIKE WE HAVE AND YOU WILL SEE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS YOU'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD UDALL AMENDMENTS THAT WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD THROUGH DEVELOPMENT THAT'S TAKEN PLACE OR BEEN CONTEMPLATE . AND SO YES, WE HAVE WE FELT WE PREVIOUSLY WE LOOKED AT THAT AT AN ANNUAL BASIS WE THINK THAT THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDED AT THE LAST STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH SO YOU MIGHT BE SEEING THOSE MORE FREQUENTLY JUST BE ABLE TO GET THAT IN YOU KNOW REASONABLE AMOUNTS OF INFORMATION SO IT'S NOT INFORMATION OVERLOAD SO TO SPEAK. BUT YES, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS YOU WILL BE SEEING SOME OF EXACTLY THAT COME FORWARD. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR BEST WAY TO HANDLE THE SMART GROWTH IS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAY HAVE GONE ON UNKNOWN BY MANY INDIVIDUALS AND I THINK YOU KNOW HAVING A STRICTER LOOK AT THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T COMING IN DEVELOPERS AND JUST BUILDING TO WHATEVER THE HIGHEST HEIGHT THAT THEY SEE THERE IN BUILDING TO WHAT YOU KNOW IS RESPECTFUL TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IN NATURE HERE WE'LL BEGIN LAYER ONE MORE I JUST WANT TO MR. FINGAR TRIGGERED THIS MY THINKING PROCESS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IN THE CITY OF BLUFFTON THIS COUNCIL IN THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS HAD NUMEROUS ANNEXATION THAT WE'VE TURNED DOWN EVEN SOME RECENTLY WHERE THEY WANT TO COME FROM THE COUNTY AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO UPTOWN AND SO THEY THEY DANGLE BEFORE US.

THEY KNOW WE WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO USUALLY THEY USE THAT AS A CARROT BUT WE HAVE TO WEIGH THE THE COST. ARE THEY ASKING FOR FAR MORE THAN WE WILL GAIN AS A MUNICIPALITY AND THE ANSWER HAS ALWAYS BEEN YES SO THIS COUNCIL I CAN THINK OF THREE OR FOUR RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT IS COUNCIL HAS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO TURN DOWN TO STOP SOME OF THE ANNEXATION SO RIGHT AND HEATHER CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT THAT'S 7% RESIDENTIAL BUILDOUT IS ONLY ON THAT 92% CORRECT. SO WE STILL HAVE 8% THAT IS NOT UNDER A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT COULD BE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL WHATEVER.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE HAVE 23% OF OUR ALREADY USE RESIDENTIAL GROWING UNITS DONE SO TO SPEAK OR IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DONE AS WE SPEAK. SO THE BIG PART OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND AND IT MAY NOT BE AS FAST AS SOME MAY WANT OR FASTER THAN SOME BUT IT'S GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL TYPE BUSINESS BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S WHAT'S THE BIG THE BIG PART OF THAT 45% THAT'S LEFT TO BE DONE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT CLEARLY I DON'T KNOW IF I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. WELL, IT ALL DEPENDS I MEAN YOU CAN SEE EACH BREAK DOWN AND WE SAY NONRESIDENTIAL. SO IT'S A GOOD MIX OF AND STREET IT COULD BE ALL DIFFERENT THINGS AND UM BUT AND I WILL SAY WE HAVE IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO DRILL DOWN WE CAN DRILL DOWN TO SHOW YOU EXACTLY THAT FOR EACH DEVELOPMENT SO IT'S BUT YES IF YOU LOOK AT THE NONRESIDENTIAL BUILD OUT AND YOU JUST SIMPLY GO BY AGAIN A GENERAL IS KIND OF AN AVERAGE SO TO SPEAK ACTUALLY MORE LIKE 64% IS NON SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT'S LEFT TO BE UTILIZED IN THE DEVELOPMENT I CAN'T COMMERCIAL ALSO DO APARTMENTS SOMETIMES AND SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE BUT I WILL SAY THERE'S THERE'S SO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THERE'S ALSO CONVERGENCE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS MOST OF THOSE CONVERSIONS I BELIEVE HAVE ALREADY BEEN UTILIZED AND DONE SO WHOLE YEAH BUT IT'S AND THAT'S WHY I ADMIT IT IS IT IS CONFUSING IT IS IT'S NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL EACH DEVELOPMENT IS DIFFERENT AND AS FAR AS HOW THEY'RE HOW IT'S MEASURED, HOW THE DEVELOPMENT IS MEASURED AND CLASSIFIED AND DEFINED AND THEN ALSO IF YOU CAN CONVERT IT IF AND HOW YOU CAN CONVERT IT SO THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT BUT WE CAN WE CAN ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO IT'S THIS IS A THIS IS A GENERAL LIKE AN AVERAGE WHAT WOULD SEE BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, MAYOR, THAT THE IS WHAT WILL

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FOLLOW ESPECIALLY ALONG A LOT OF THOSE THE PARKWAYS AND THAT'S WHERE THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TYPICALLY BEEN DESIGNATED IN THOSE MASTER PLANS SO THAT TYPICALLY COMES AFTER THE BEDS. SO IF THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH WITH PROPERTIES THAT CAN BE CONVERTED WOULDN'T THAT BE AN AMENDMENT? WOULD THAT HAVE TO COME? I'LL COME BACK TO NO NOT NECESSARILY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND WHAT'S OUTLINED WITHIN THE BUT LIKE BUCKWALTER ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN CONVERTED ALREADY SO THEY'RE THEY'RE MAXED OUT. I THOUGHT I WOULD WALK OVER TO YOU GUYS THAT WE KNOW THAT ALL OF THEM ALL THE CONVERSIONS FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL I MEAN FROM COMMERCIAL TO HAVE BEEN EXERCISED I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT I DIDN'T COME PREPARED WITH THAT EXACT BUT I KNOW IN BUCKWALTER THE CONVERSIONS ARE DONE THEY'RE DONE WITH THOSE CONVERSIONS THEY BECAUSE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OUTLINE WHAT YOU CAN CONVERT AND HOW YOU CAN CONVERT IT SO FOR EXAMPLE ONE RESIDENTIAL UNIT EQUATES TO FOUR ASSISTED LIVING UNITS OR YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS AND THE SAME WITH A HOTEL ROOM IS EQUIVALENT TO TWO RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS. BUCKWALTER SO THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT AND THEY'RE ALL VERY SPECIFIC. I WAS GOING TO BRING JUST SO THE PUBLIC COULD SEE ONE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BOOKS BECAUSE WHEN YOU SEE THE BINDERS I MEAN THEY'RE THIS THING FOR THE INITIAL ONE SO IT'S I WISH COULD ANSWER IT OFF THE CUFF FOR CERTAIN BUT I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE ALL BEEN USED UP BUT YOU'RE RIGHT THERE ARE SOME WHERE THE AMENDMENTS WHEN THEY WANT TO GO BEYOND WHAT'S INITIALLY APPROVED SO IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR CHART AND YOU LOOK AT BLUFFTON VILLAGE AND YOU SEE THEY'RE ALLOWED THIS IS SO MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND SO MUCH COMMERCIAL IF THEY WANT TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT THEN IT COMES TO TOWN COUNCIL AN AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

ONE MORE OBSERVATION FOR CLARITY ON THE 8% THAT DOES NOT RESIDE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS YOU REFERENCED THAT 8% ALREADY HAS A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON IT.

SO IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A BLANK SLATE. IT'S IT'S ALREADY THERE'S ROOM FOR MORE HOUSING BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSING ALREADY EXIST IN SOME OF THOSE LOCATIONS.

IT'S NOT UNINTENDED 8% CORRECT. OKAY SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, IT'S PRIMARILY OUR INITIAL ONE SQUARE MILE. SO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, SOME BUCK ISLAND VALE GO THROUGH.

YOU CAN SEE THAT YELLOW AREA KNOW SOME POCKETS OF THAT. SO YES THERE IS THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ALREADY THERE BUT YOU TAKE IT UP AND FURTHER THANK YOU THANK YOU AND YOU SAID IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER BECAUSE CLEARLY A BIG TOPIC.

YOU DID GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY.

NEXT UP WE GOT AN UPDATE AND DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE SCAD RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE SQUIER POLK CAR CARRIAGE HOUSE AND WELCOME CENTER GLAM ROOM. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR.

COUNCIL THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF A DISCUSSION WE STARTED BACK IN OCTOBER THE LAST WORKSHOP.

SO HERE'S THE VIEW. JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT IN 2023 THE TOWN CONTRACTOR WITH SCAD PRO DOWN AT THE SAVANNAH COLLEGE OF ART AND DESIGN TO DEVELOP A DESIGN CONCEPT FOR THE TOWN'S NEW 540 FOOT SQUARE FOOT WELCOME CENTER TO BE HOUSED AT THE SQUIRE POLK CARRIAGE HOUSE. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH SCAD PRO, IT'S A COLLABORATIVE DESIGN STUDIO AT THE UNIVERSITY THAT CONNECTS CURRENT AND FUTURE ART AND DESIGN PROFESSIONALS WITH BUSINESS LEADERS FIND CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS FOR REAL WORLD CHALLENGES. OUR SCAD PRO CLASS STARTED IN THE FALL ACADEMIC QUARTER FOR 2023 AND WENT FROM TEN WEEKS STARTING ON THE 12TH OF SEPTEMBER AND THEY FINISHED ON THE 16TH OF NOVEMBER OF THIS PAST YEAR.

THE TEAM OR THE COHORT WAS MADE UP OF 17 GRADUATE AND UNDERGRADUATE STUDENTS FROM SCAD. LED BY ONE OF THE PROFESSORS FROM THE PRESERVATION DESIGNED DEPARTMENT THEY REPRESENTED DIFFERENT EXPERTIZE FROM ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY PRESERVATION DESIGN TO INTERIOR DESIGN. DIFFERENT FOCUS GROUPS THEY WERE TASKED WITH DESIGNING A 540 FOOT SQUARE FOOT WELCOME CENTER.

WITHIN THESE PARAMETERS AT THE SQUARE BROKERAGE HOUSE. EVERYTHING DELINEATED IN THE RED DOTTED AREA IS BASICALLY 540 SQUARE FEET. FOR PRACTICAL PURPOSES THAT'S, ABOUT THE SIZE OF A NEW YORK MANHATTAN APARTMENT. SO IT'S THE CHALLENGE WAS LIMITED IN WHAT THEY COULD COME UP WITH A 540 SQUARE FEET. I THOUGHT I'D GIVE YOU SOME QUICK UPDATES OF WHAT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS LOOK LIKE. THESE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE ALREADY OUTDATED. THIS WAS TAKEN ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

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IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT TO THE SITE RECENTLY IT'S CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.

BUT THIS IS AN EXTERIOR VIEW OF THE SQUARE BROKERAGE HOUSE. AND THEN I'M GIVING YOU A COUPLE OF INTERIOR PHOTOGRAPHS SHOWING YOU PART OF THAT 540 SQUARE FOOT EMPTY SPACE.

WHEN WE CAME IN FRONT OF YOU IN OCTOBER FOR THE WORKSHOP, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SHOWED YOU WAS A DIAGRAM SIMILAR TO THIS ONE. SCAD PRO STUDENTS CAME UP WITH A DESIGN ELEMENT A DESIGN SCHEME THAT REPRESENTED THE WELCOME CENTER INTO DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS AND BLOCKS IN HISTORY STARTING FROM EVERYTHING FROM THE NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY UP THROUGH THE BOSTON BEGINNINGS ALL THE WAY TO PRESENT DAY THEY READ THINGS COLOR CODED SO THAT A VISITOR WOULD INTO THE WELCOME CENTER AND BE PRESENTED WITH THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF OFTEN IN A VISUAL SPACE WHERE THEY COULD WALK THROUGH AND LEARN EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT THE THE TOWN. THESE ARE BASICALLY SOME OF THOSE AREAS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING FROM PRE BLUFFTON UP TO THE NEW MILLENNIUM WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. THEY ALSO DESIGNED VARIOUS ELEMENTS TO BE INCLUDED THOSE EXHIBITION SPACES SO THEY LOOKED AT GRAPHICS SO WE HAD DESIGNER STUDENTS CAME UP WITH A WELCOME CENTER TOWN OF BLUFFTON LOGO WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE TOP CORNER OF THE SCREEN. WE HAD FURNITURE PEOPLE DEVELOPING CORNER DISPLAYS. ONE OF THE PARAMETERS WE GAVE THE STUDENTS WAS EVERYTHING THAT THEY DESIGNED NEEDS TO BE MOVABLE IN THE 545 540 SQUARE FOOT AREA.

WE WANTED TO BE AS FLEXIBLE WE POSSIBLY CAN BE GIVEN THE SPACE CONDITIONS.

SO WE SAID MAKE THEM MOVABLE WHICH THEY DID. CONTROL DISPLAYS ARE ON CASTERS CAN BE FOLDED UP MOVED DISPLAY BOARDS ALSO MOVABLE THE DISPLAY BOARDS IN PARTICULAR WE HAVE FULL MOCK UPS AVAILABLE IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO SEE THOSE I CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU SEE THEM WE CAN EVEN TAKE THEM OVER TO THE SQUARE BROKERAGE HOUSE LIKE I SHOWED THEM TO YOU IN PERSON IF YOU SO DESIRE TO SEE THEM. BUT WE HAVE THE DISPLAY BOARDS MARKED UP AND THERE ALSO IN THAT PACKET THAT I GAVE I'M A VERY VISUAL PERSON AND SEE HERE ARE SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT THEY CAME IN. SO AS YOU'RE COMING IN THE FRONT DOOR.

THE FIRST THING YOU'LL SEE IS THE WELCOME DESK WHICH THEY DESIGNED AND THEN YOU'LL SEE HOW THE THE DISPLAY UNITS ARE ARRANGED AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE ROOMS. THIS IS THE ROOM AS YOU GO IN THE FRONT DOOR ACTUALLY TO THE RIGHT.

ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SAME ROOMS ROOM FROM THE OTHER OTHER SIDE WITH THE STAIRCASE GOES UPSTAIRS TO OFFICE SPACE. THEY DESIGNED ALSO FURNITURE THAT CAN BE PERMANENTLY INSTALLED OR AGAIN MOVABLE. THE TV AS YOU SEE IN THE BACK AREA WOULD BE ACTUALLY FUNCTIONING TV THAT WE COULD DEVELOP PROGRAMING FOR FLEXIBLE BASED ON NEED OR INFORMATION THAT WE MAY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT. ONE OF THE FEEDBACK OPTIONS GOT FROM Y'ALL WHEN WE WERE HERE IN OCTOBER WAS THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT HAS CENTER DISPLAY FEATURES IN THE CENTER OF THE ROOM WE THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE TOO OVERCROWDED AND THOSE WERE TAKEN OUT AND OR PUSHED TO THE SIDES. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY CAME UP WITH WAS SOME LONG TERM FUTURE TECHNOLOGICAL ASPECTS PHONE APPS, INTERACTIVE MAPS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE COULD IN FACT IN THE FUTURE DEVELOP IF WE SO CHOOSE. BUT THOSE ARE ACTUALLY THIS IN THIS LIGHT AS WELL. OUR NEXT STEPS ARE TONIGHT ASKING FOR APPROVAL IMPLEMENT THESE PRO DESIGNS. YOU CAN AUTHORIZE TO IMPLEMENT ALL OF THEM SOME OF THEM OR NONE OF THEM. WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR ALLOCATION OF FUNDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 TO START IMPLEMENTING THESE IDEAS. WITH A TARGET OPENING DATE TO THE PUBLIC IN JANUARY 2025 I BLEW THROUGH A LOT OF MATERIAL IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO THEM.

I THINK IT LOOKS BUT THAT'S JUST ME. THANK YOU.

YES, I THINK YOU DIDN'T TAKE MY CONSIDERATION IN AN ACCOUNT. WE DID TAKE SOME OF THE INTO ACCOUNT BUT WE CAN ALSO WORK ON MORE OF YOUR IDEAS AS WELL SO THAT AGAIN WE CAN WE CAN WE CAN FLESH OUT THESE DESIGNS BETTER IF YOU IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC ISSUE I THINK REALLY JUST THE COMMENT I WAS IN ATTENDANCE UH VIRTUALLY WHEN THEY DID THE FINAL OR THE UPDATED PRESENTATION IT WAS WAS REALLY GOOD AND UM NOW I'M GOING TO SOUND LIKE I'M BEING A

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DEAD HORSE BUT MY COLLEAGUES WEREN'T PRESENT FOR AND I JUST WANTED TO CONVEY WHAT I SAID TO THEM AND IN THE GENERAL AUDIENCE. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THIS COMPANY CIRCLE IS GORGEOUS. CANNOT WAIT TO SEE YOU TO LIFE. BUT ADMONISHING THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT AND ALWAYS MAKE SURE AS WE HAVE NOT ALWAYS HISTORICALLY GOTTEN IT RIGHT THAT HISTORICALLY WE ARE ACCURATE IN THE REPRESENTATION OF EVERYONE IN TELLING THE STORY FROM NOT THE LENS OF UM OF A VERY UM EXCLUSIONARY LENS BUT THAT WE TELL THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF EVERYONE IN TO WHO WE ARE AND WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT COMES TO FRUITION AND THAT GOING TO BE I ,I LIKE I LIKE IT. IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I WOULD EVEN START FROM THE BEGINNING BUT I SAID THAT LAST TIME TOO SO I'M NOT GOING TO WIN THAT BATTLE SO NOT GOING TO WRITE IT FOR BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS.

I'M FINE WITH IT. YOU WANT DIRECTIONS FROM US OR YES YOU SAID SOME DIRECTION AS TOLD SO SO I'M THIS IS A FORMAL ITEM SO WE'RE JUST YOU KNOW JUST ANY FEEDBACK AS THEY WORK TO FINALIZE THINGS BECAUSE. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE GET INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2425 IS PUT THE FUNDING TO COMPLETE AND THEN GET THE WELCOME CENTER OPERATING. THE GOAL IS TO HAVE IT OPERATING THE FIRST PART OF 25 SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE AS WE START WORKING BECAUSE WE WANT TO TAKE THESE DESIGNS AND WE NEED TO GO GET SOMEBODY TO ACTUALLY CARPENTER AND ALL THAT TO ACTUALLY PUT THESE IN SO AS WE GET READY TO START FUNDING FOR THAT WE WANT TO JUST TO GET COUNCIL'S INPUT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION LIKE GLEN SAID IF THERE'S A FEW TWEAKS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WE CAN DO THAT AS WE GET INTO THE DESIGN AND WE CAN GIVE YOU ANOTHER UPDATE AS WE START WORKING TO FINALIZE THAT BEFORE WE GET INTO CONSTRUCTION. THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE VOTE BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD PERSONALLY AGAIN YOU HAVE TO HAVE FUNDING THE BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE FUNDING TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT OPERATIONAL I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE PROCEED WILL BRING THE FUNDING WILL BE PART OF THE BUDGET REQUEST COMING UP SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT AS WELL DURING THE BUDGET PERIOD REALLY BECAUSE I WAS GOOD AND SHE SENT ME TO SIGN A CHECK MATTER TODAY I HAVE A BLANK CHECK. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU GOOD.

OKAY. NOW I KNOW YOU GOT UPDATE AND DISCUSSION TO A CONCEPTUAL PLAN MASTER PLAN FOR BA'QUBAH TO REPLACE PART PART OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IN THE EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT SOME PLANNING WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ON BACKHOE PLACE PARK WHICH IS FORMALLY KNOWN AS EVERCORE PART.

I'LL SKIP THROUGH IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. I'LL SKIP THROUGH SOME OF THE BACKGROUND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU PURCHASE THE PROPERTY YOU KNOW THE DIRECTIONS THAT YOU GIVEN THE STAFF WE ENGAGED THOMAS HUTTON THEIR LANDSCAPE DIVISION WE DID THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR EVERCORE TO KIND OF LOOK IT AND ASSESS WHAT WORKED AND WHAT DIDN'T WORK AND THEN ALSO ACHIEVE SOME OF THE GOALS AND PRINCIPLES THAT WE ASKED THEM TO TO ADDRESS IN A CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN AND THOSE THREE ITEMS REALLY ARE COMFORT AND SAFETY TO IMPROVE KIND OF THE CONDITIONS OUT THERE. IT'S THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SHADE OUT THERE WHEN WE HAVE PUBLIC EVENTS IT NEEDS MORE SHADE ANY WAY CAN GET THAT IMPROVE THE KIND OF THE OPEN VISIBILITY OF THE PARK RIGHT NOW IT'S FENCED IN IT'S GOT MAIN PERIMETER LANDSCAPING SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S YOU'RE ABLE TO SURVEIL THE PARK FROM THE PERIMETER IMPROVE LIGHTING RESTROOM WATER FOUNTAINS OVERHEAD CANOPY THE TREES, SHADE ELEMENTS.

WE ALSO WANT TO WE ASK THEM TO LOOK INTO IMPROVING THE ACCESS AND INCLUSION THERE IS PERIMETER SIDEWALKS AROUND HALF OF THE SITE THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS TO CONNECT THE PEDESTRIAN TO PARKING AREAS BOTH TO THE EAST AND WEST AND THEN OVERALL KIND OF LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE ITSELF THERE'S A LOT OF LANDSCAPING THAT WAS PLANTED WITH EVERY CAR PARK. WE THINK WE CAN SIMPLIFY IT, REDUCE SOME OF THE SHRUB MASS AREAS, MAYBE ADD MORE SIDE AND THEN WE DO WANT TO DEFINITELY ADD MORE SHADE TREES TO THE SITE THIS IS THE AREA OVER THE OF THE SITE AGAIN THERE'S A DASH LINE AT THE TOP ALONG HERE

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CALLED DRIVE INNOVATION AND INDICATES THE SIDEWALK IT'S A SIDEWALK THAT'S NEEDED KIND OF COMPLETE THE CONNECTIONS AROUND THE PARK ON THE OUTSIDE AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT LACK OF SHADE THE RESTROOM INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE RESTROOMS THERE SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING BECAUSE OF THE SOILS OUT THERE, SOME OF THE TREES VERY WELL.

SOME OF THEM DID POORLY AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS IN THAT.

SO WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND THEN REDUCE THE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SITE. THESE ARE JUST SOME EXISTING PHOTOGRAPH.

THAT AMPHITHEATER ELEMENT IS A NICE ELEMENT THAT DON'T HAVE IN ANY OTHER PARK HERE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A NEW ELEMENT ALSO JUST HAVING THE FENCE AROUND IT MAKE THIS PARK A GOOD PLACE TO HAVE TICKETED EVENTS AND I THINK THAT WILL BE A BENEFIT THAT PHOTOGRAPH AT THE TOP CENTER IS KIND OF SEATING AREA WHERE THE INTENT WAS THAT THOSE TREES WOULD CREATE NICE SHADED AREA FOR PEOPLE TO SEE AND HAVE DINNER AND LUNCH. UNFORTUNATELY THOSE PARTICULAR TREES DIDN'T DO WELL SO. WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THIS MASTER PLAN OTHER ATTEMPTS TO PROVIDE FOR THAT AREA AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM TWO SLIDES THAT THOSE GREAT MYRTLES DID VERY WELL AS BOTH OF THOSE TREES TOP CENTER AND THERE'S AN EXISTING ALIGNMENT SIGN THERE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO EITHER REPURPOSE OR REMOVE AND REDESIGN.

SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN AND ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED ON THE LEFT ARE ALSO GOING TO GIVE YOU A HANDOUT THAT HAS THOSE ITEMS SO THAT YOU KIND OF PREPARE. BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MAY BE A THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LATER AT THE PRESENTATION WHEN WE GET TO QUESTIONS BECAUSE I JUST SIMPLY THINK OKAY THE LEGEND IS ON THE LEFT AND THERE'S A CORRESPONDING LETTER EACH ONE OF THOSE THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE PLAN ITSELF AND I'LL TRY TO USE MY MOUSE TO MOVE AROUND TO WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ITEMS A WHICH IS AT THE TOP OF THE SHEET HERE THE C I THINK THIS IS A LITTLE CLOSER E AND THEN THEY'RE ELEMENTS THAT ARE RELATED TO CARE CORE DRIVE AND MOSTLY CIRCULATION. WE BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW THE TWO PARKING LOT BEHIND THE CARE CORE BUILDINGS ARE YOU KNOW, THE CLOSEST PARKING FOR EVENTS .

IF THOSE ARE BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THEN THAT ENTRANCE THERE NEEDS BE KIND OF UPGRADED SO THERE'S MORE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION SO THIS IS PROPOSING EXPANDED PROPERTY TO INCORPORATE THE TWO CROSSWALKS COMING ACROSS CHARACTER DRIVE A SIDEWALK WITH A MOUTH PARK NOW THERE IS THIS SIDEWALK IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW BUT IN THIS POINT MASTERPLAN IS PROPOSING A SIDEWALK CONNECTION YOU WENT TO THE SECOND YOU HAD SAME THING SAME THING SIDEWALKS ON BOTH OPTIONS EXPAND ON AN ENTRY THIS AREA BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THE EXISTING WE'RE PROPOSING TO REDUCE SOME OF THE SHRUBS LANDSCAPING THERE AND CONVERT IT TO TO A LAWN AREA. THIS IS AN AREA OF KIND OF WOULD TAKE CARE OF OVERFLOW FOR FOOD TRUCKS THAT MIGHT BE PARKED ON CARRICKMORE DRIVE FOR EVENTS SO THAT'S AND THEN THESE NEED TO BE UPGRADED THERE'S ACTUALLY NO ENTRANCE COMING FROM THIS NORTHWEST CORNER. SO WE'RE PROPOSING PUT AN ENTRANCE ON THAT SIDE AS WELL.

ITEM B IS A LARGE CIRCLE CONCRETE CIRCLE NOW THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH FUNCTION TO IT NOW OR A COUPLE OPTIONS FOR THIS ONE WOULD BE A CURVED TRELLIS WITH SEATING UNDERNEATH IT AND A RAISED PLANTER JUST TO BREAK UP THAT LARGE EXPANSE OF CONCRETE AND ADD SOME SHADE.

ANOTHER OPTION WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER WHICH IS PERHAPS A SPLASH PAD OR INTERACTIVE TYPE FOUNTAIN THAT LOCATION THESE ARE ALL JUST SUGGESTIONS AT THIS POINT WHY I PUT OUT THE HANDOUT SO YOU CAN SAY YEAH IS SOMETHING WE LIKE TO CONSIDER ARE THESE OR SOMETHING WE DON'T

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THINK YOU OUGHT IN A FINAL MASTER PLAN MOVING ALONG ITEMS I GUESS F AND G THESE ARE A COUPLE EXISTING KIND OF HALF CIRCLE PADS THAT HAVE EXISTING BENCHES IN THEM BUT THIS LOOKS LIKE A PARK WHERE THESE THESE HALF CIRCLES MIGHT BE A GOOD AREAS TO CONSIDER SOME PUBLIC ART NOW WE HAVE A PUBLIC ART PROGRAM WITHIN THE TOWN THIS WHOLE PARK HAS A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES TO PUBLIC ART. SO WE'RE SHOWING THIS PARTICULAR MASTER PLAN, THOSE AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS F AND G LEAVE ITEM F WHICH IS HERE IN THE CORNER THAT THAT MONUMENT SIGN THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO EITHER REPURPOSE THAT OR REDESIGN DIFFERENT SIGNAGE SYSTEM FOR THE PARK AUTHORITY ITEM I THIS IS THE AMPHITHEATER KIND OF THE BUILDING FOR THE AMPHITHEATER IT'S KIND OF AN OPEN STRUCTURE OR A STORAGE UNIT THAT HAS ROLL UP DOORS AS A STAGE ON THE AMPHITHEATER SIDE AND IT OPENS ALL IT OPENS UP TO THE VENT LAWN AREA. IT ALSO INCLUDES SOME RESTROOMS WHICH WE THINK NEED TO BE EXPANDED AND AND THEN THERE'S THERE'S YOU'LL SEE SOME IMAGERY LATER ON BUT WE THINK THESE THESE AREAS WHERE THE STAGE IS AND WHERE THE EVENT LINE IS A RETRACTABLE AWNING WOULD BE A GOOD SOLUTION THERE ADD SOME SHADE TO ANY PERFORMANCES THAT HAPPENED THERE ITEM J DOWN HERE THIS IS THAT BOSQUE OF TREES AND THAT SEATING AREA SHOWED YOU A PHOTOGRAPH EARLIER WE'RE PROPOSING A COUPLE OPTIONS FOR THIS AS WELL AS YOU'LL SEE THIS IS A BASICALLY A DECORATIVE SHADE SALE OVER WHOLE AREA AND MOVE THE TREES AND PUT A DECORATIVE SAGE SHADE SALE IT AN ITEM OKAY THIS IS AGAIN ANOTHER SUGGESTION OR RECOMMENDATION FOR AN OUTDOOR KIND OF FITNESS STATION AREA? WE DON'T A PLAYGROUND I DON'T BELIEVE IN THIS PARK BECAUSE WE HAVE A NICE ONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET BUT WE HAVE WITH THE WITH THE JOGGING TRAIL ON THE SITE FITNESS STATION A COUPLE OF STATIONS IN THIS AREA WOULD BE A SUGGESTIONS BEING MADE IN THIS MASTER PLAN ITEM L ON THIS ARE THESE ARBORS SWINGS WHICH IS KIND OF A SIGNATURE ELEMENT THAT BEEN PLACING IN A LOT OF OUR PARKS LATELY. SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION THAT'S BEING SUGGESTED IN THIS MASTER PLAN. OH, DOWN HERE JUST BELOW ITEM OH HERE IS A CROSSWALK RIGHT NOW A PAINTED CROSSWALK. THERE WAS NO CROSSWALK THERE PRIOR TO US PURCHASING THIS PROPERTY BUT THEN WE ADDED IT BUT WE'RE THINKING THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE AN ELEVATED CROSSWALK TO KIND OF SLOW DOWN IN THIS AREA BECAUSE THERE COULD BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING ACROSS THE IN THAT LOCATION. I THINK THAT'S MAJORITY OF WHAT WE'RE SHOWING ON THIS OPTION ONE JUST TO SHOW YOU A DIFFERENT THIS IS BASICALLY THE SAME PLAN BUT AS THREE DIFFERENCES. ONE IS THIS CIRCULAR ALIGNMENT WOULD WOULD WOULD BE MORE OF A INTERACTIVE TYPE FOUNTAIN AS OPPOSED THE TRAILERS AND AND RAISED PLANTER AROUND THESE THESE HALF CIRCLE NODES THAT ARE AROUND THE SITE AND THEN TO MY CURSOR AND SHOW YOU WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED THIS KIND OF TAROT CARD AND COLORED ITEMS ARE REALLY KIND OF SHADE SALES . SO AGAIN AGAIN IF THERE'S THERE ARE SEATING AREAS AT EACH ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS WE'RE KIND OF SUGGESTING THAT AS A POSSIBILITY. AND AGAIN OVER THE FINISH STATION I'LL THROW ANOTHER SHADE SALE MIGHT BE CONSIDERED IN THAT LOCATION DIFFERENCE IN THE PLAN HERE IS ALSO THE TREATMENT OF SEATING AREA WITH JUST TWO PAVILIONS KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT IS OVER BEHIND BESIDE THE HAYWARD HOUSE THAT TIES THAT SIZE PAVILION THERE WHERE THEY COULD BE RENTED OUT FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND SUCH AND THAT'S GENERALLY IT ON THE MASTER I'VE GOT SOME IMAGERY WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE CONSULTANT ABOUT PUTTING THESE MISTING IN AGAIN A PRIMARY IN OUR MIND IS PROVIDING SHADE AND RELIEF FROM THE HEAT WE SUGGESTED I'M NOT SURE THESE IMAGES ARE THE BEST FOR THIS. WE SUGGESTED POSSIBLY AT SOME OF THESE MORE MAIN ENTRANCES PUTTING COMMON AN ARCHED ITEM OVER IT TO KIND OF IDENTIFY THAT ELEMENT AS THIS THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE PARK OF PUBLIC ART I DISCUSSED THAT EARLIER THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION TO CONSIDER PUBLIC. THIS IS FROM IMAGERY OF THE FITNESS STATION AND THE ARBOR TRELLIS AND THE JELL O AND THE WATER OR FOR SOME IMAGERY OF , YOU KNOW TRIANGULAR SHAPE SAILS OTHER RETRACTABLE AWNINGS KIND OF DECORATIVE FIELDS.

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THERE'S ALSO AN IMAGE OF SOME WATER JETS AND THAT ONE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT IS AN OPTION FOR THAT CIRCULAR AREA.

A COUPLE MORE IMAGES PHALLUSES AND SO WHERE WE ARE IF WE'RE HERE GET INPUT ON WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE IN ORDER TO FINALIZE MASTER PLAN AND THEN IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WE WOULD BE PROJECTING SOME OF THOSE HARDSCAPE LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO I'M HERE ANSWER ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT BUT HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A LIST IN FRONT OF YOU OF ITEMS YOU KIND OF LET ME KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THEM. ALL RIGHT.

GREAT PRESENTATION, PAT. I LOVE OPTIONS AND DESIGNS WE HAVE HERE.

I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT THE ENTIRE PLAN FOR LIGHTING IS TO BE BECAUSE LIGHTING OUT THERE IS HORRIBLE WHEN YOU'RE DOING AN EVENT AFTER A CERTAIN TIME IT'S IT PITCH DARK OUT THERE AND SO I KNOW THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE BUT ALSO FROM AN EVENT STANDPOINT TO HOST ONE YOU'D HAVE TO BRING IN LIKE YOUR OWN LIGHTING TO BE ABLE TO ILLUMINATE THE SPACE.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO DO I LOVE THE DESIGNS I THINK FOR THE SHADE IT SHOULD BE IN AN OPTION OF EITHER OR BETWEEN THAT OR THE MISSING STATIONS AS THEY BOTH KIND OF WOULD DO THE SAME PROVIDING SOME RELIEF FROM FROM THE HEAT OR GIVING SHADE ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO COOL DOWN SO I WOULD BE FOR ONE OR THE OTHER NOT BOTH AT THE SAME TIME AND I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A FAN OF OPTION TWO. I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT CHRIS AND HE WOULD HAVE GIVEN ME AS I SO FOR A WATER FEATURE THERE I THINK WOULD DEFINITELY BE GREAT WHETHER IT'S JUST THE JETS COMING UP OR FULL ON SPLASH PAD ADDITION HERE WHEN WOULD BRING US UP TO I THINK THREE OPTIONS AT OUR PARK SO MY LOW INPUT GRID GO NO LESS HAS ALREADY FULFILLED I HAVE AN INTERACTIVE FOUNTAIN SAID ALL RIGHT I SAID THAT EITHER OR YOU KNOW YOU'RE CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE HERE BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED A SPLASH PAD BUT I THINK WATER FEATURE WAS REALLY NICE SO I WOULD AGREE WITH MS. FRAZIER ON THAT NOT A SPLASH PAD TO ACCOMMODATE FOR IT. I LIKE THE RAISED CROSSWALK IDEA BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A PARK THERE WITH KIDS WOULD BE GOING BACK AND FORTH THE LIGHTING ISSUE IS A GOOD QUESTION.

THE PARK WILL CLOSE AT DUSK TECHNICALLY UNLESS THERE IS AN EVENT.

SO I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SOLVE THAT DILEMMA. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO COME BACK WITH STAFF TO KIND OF UPDATE ON THAT BECAUSE IT WAS EXTREMELY DARK OUT THERE REGARDING THE PAVILIONS I KNOW WE HAVE TO START OUT WITH THE PAVILIONS THAT'S JUST ME.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THIS COUNCIL FEELS. WE NEED TO JUMP ON THEM OR NOT BUT YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT IF THERE'S A THERE'S A FEELING TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT I SEE THE SALES OR THE TREES TO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS BABY STEPS.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING OR LET'S SEE WHAT THE WHAT THE COST OPTIONS ARE ON TO COUNCILMAN WOODS POINT LET'S SEE WHAT THE COST OPTIONS ARE IN TERMS OF WHICH ONE IS WHAT FEASIBILITY LOOK LIKE BECAUSE I'M IMAGINING THE PAVILIONS YOU HAVE HERE ARE SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT WE HAVE AT THE BOY AND THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY AT OSCAR, CORRECT? YEAH. EXCEPT FOR THOSE DO HAVE RESTROOMS INTO THEM IN STORAGE PART. SO THIS WOULD BE JUST AN OPEN AIR PAVILION LIKE WHAT'S BESIDE THE HAYWARD HOUSE? I WOULD THINK SO THESE WOULD BE A DISH ADDITIONAL RESTROOM SPACES TO THE EXISTING ONES THAT ARE ALREADY NEARBY THE AMPHITHEATER.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON THIS MASTER PLAN EXPANDING EXISTING RESTROOMS IN THAT AMPHITHEATER, BUILDING SO JAY IS IS REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT IS AN OPEN AIR PAVILION NO WALLS DOORS OR WHAT WE'RE BUILDING AT IT IT'S THE RESTROOMS ARE IN THE AMPHITHEATER BUILDING THEY WOULD BE THIS PLAN CALLS FOR EXPANDING THAT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S SINGLE RESTROOMS IN THIS THEY WOULD EXPAND THAT TO HAVE MORE RESTROOMS IN THE BUILDING BUT THESE WOULD BE JUST LIKE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN OUR NEW RIVERSIDE BARN JUST OPEN AIR PAVILIONS

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WHERE PEOPLE WOULD PICNIC TABLES WHERE PEOPLE COULD DO BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND IT'S NOT THIS A SIMILAR I MEAN THIS IS A DIFFERENT DESIGN THAN THE SOME THAT WE HAVE AT OUR CURRENT PARKS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE BOYS AND ROTARY AND ROTARY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE RESTROOMS BUILT INTO IT. IF YOU WOULD JUST REMOVE THE RESTROOMS IT WOULD JUST BE THE OPEN BOOK, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASSUME IT IS JUST THE PAVILION THAT PROVIDES THAT SPACE. SO YEAH. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPTION IN TERMS OF WE SEE THE FREQUENCY OF HOW RESIDENTS USE THE PAVILIONS THE BOYS AS WELL AS OSCAR FRAZIER WHETHER IT'S A POP UP BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR KID OR A FAMILY PICNIC I SEE THAT BEING UTILIZED DEFINITELY NOW THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME ON THIS SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY WHERE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT NOW. I WOULD AGREE.

THANK YOU. IN TERMS OF BABY STEPS COMMENT, I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS DEVELOP A PLAN THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED OVER TIME. IT MAY NOT BE THAT THIS IS HIGH PRIORITY TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE. IT MAY BE OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PARKS. SO I LIKE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE IMPLEMENT THE ENTIRE PLAN BUT I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO PUT SOMETHING ON A PLAN AND NOT DELIVER IT WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE DIFFERENT SMALLER BUILDINGS MORE OF THEM BECAUSE LOTS OF TIMES YOU HAVE MORE ONE FAMILY THAT WANTS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIRTHDAY PARTY YOU KNOW WITH, 1520 PEOPLE AND IT WOULD ACCOMMODATE MORE MORE PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME OTHERWISE I LIKE IT. ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE ? SO WE NEED TO TELL YOU AND GO AND SPEND MORE MONEY OR WHAT YOU ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW MANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU PROVIDED TONIGHT I'LL DEVELOP IT INTO A FINAL I WON'T BE IT'LL STILL BE PART OF THE STRUCTURAL MASTER PLAN BUT I'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL USE AS A WORKING TOOL TO DEVELOP BUDGETS 25 AND 26 AND 27 PROBABLY THE NEXT THREE YEARS BECAUSE AGAIN OKAY WHERE WE HAVE THAT WILL MOVE US IN TO

[VIII. PUBLIC COMMENT]

THE PUBLIC COMMENTS DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW YOU DON'T HAVE FIVE.

ALL RIGHT. I'M TO READ US EVERY WORD OF IT NEXT TIME I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO READ IT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. EACH SPEAKER IS LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 3 MINUTES PER MEETING REGARDLESS OF THE PERSON IS SPEAKING ON THEIR OWN BEHALF OR AS AN AGENT OTHERS MEETING ATTENDEES MAY NOT DONATE TRANSFER, YIELD OR GIVE ALL OR ANY PORTION OF THEIR SPEAKING TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE TO BE CONDUCTED FROM THE PODIUM AND TO THE TOWN COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND NOT ANY MEMBER THEREOF.

ALL SPEAKERS SHALL BE MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL OF THOSE PARTICIPATING IN OR OR PRESENT AT THE MEETING AND SPEAKERS BE EXPECTED TO BE CIVIL IN THEIR LANGUAGE AND SHALL FROM COMMENT OR BEHAVIOR THAT INVOLVES DISORDERLY SPEECH OR ACTION NAME CALLING PERSONAL ATTACKS THREATS OBSCENE INDECENT REMARKS AND OR DISRUPTIVE ACTIONS ALL SPEAKERS CONFINE THEIR COMMENTS THE ISSUES UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THIS COUNCIL SPEAKERS SHALL NOT USE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD TO PROMOTE OR ADVERTISE AWARDS BUSINESSES, SERVICES, GOODS OR CANDIDATES PUBLIC OFFICE ANY SPEAKER THAT VIOLATES THESE RULES AND PROTOCOLS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT MAY BE AND WILL RULED OUT OF ORDER ME ANY PERSON WHOSE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RULED OUT OF ORDER SHALL IMMEDIATELY CEASE AND DESIST FROM FURTHER IMPROPER THE REFUSAL OF AN INDIVIDUAL TO FROM FURTHER IMPROPER COMMENTS MAY SUBJECT THE INDIVIDUAL TO REMOVE HER FROM THE MEETING AND OR AS A CITATION UNDER SECTION 2-49 OF THE TOWN OR STOP THEIR INCIDENTAL OR MITCHELL LIKE NAMING NAMING WAS HERE NO I NEVER SAW ON ADAM LEFT NOTHING

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MIKE REYNOLDS NOT HERE EITHER BECAUSE HE GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS CAROLYN SMITH AND FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE ALL OF Y'ALL YOUR NEW TERM AND YOUR NEW POSITIONS ON THE BOARD AND. HOPE THAT YOU'LL HAVE A SUCCESSFUL ADVENTURE IN YOUR IS BEING MAYOR AND COUNCIL THE WHAT I'VE COME TO SPEAK TO Y'ALL ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE RESOLUTION OF ESTABLISHING THE IMPORTANCE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE PLAN OF ROADWAYS OF OUR THEM I THINK THE FIRST ONE ON YOUR LIST IS GOING TO BE LAWRENCE STREET AND I DID COME IN THIS PAST AND SIGN MY RIGHT AWAY PAPERS FOR LAWRENCE STREET AND AT THAT TIME I WAS GIVEN THESE PAPERS TO STUDY AND IT THERE ARE NO PLANS TO CHANGE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ROADS AND THE CHANGES WILL BE REVIEWED THE REQUEST OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND AFTER PUBLIC INPUT AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT EVERYBODY ELSE HERE TONIGHT HAS BEEN ASKING FOR CHANGE AND IMPROVEMENT AND TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO NOT DO ANYTHING BUT LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS.

BUT THE ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS WHEN YOU TAKE OVER THESE GHOST ROADS AND THE SEWAGE IN AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO MAINTAIN THAT THEY DO STAY LIKE THEY ARE AND THAT WILL BE NO PUBLIC PARKING OR ACCESS I SHOULDN'T SAY ACCESS NO PUBLIC PARKING TO BLOCK THE PEOPLE GETTING DOWN THESE ROADS TO THEIR HOUSES AND TO KEEP THEM LIKE THEY ARE AND AT ANY TIME WHEN ANYTHING IS TO BE DONE THAT YOU DO YOU TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND THE AREAS WITH LAWRENCE STREET BEING THE FIRST ONE I SEE THERE'S GOING TO BE QUITE A FEW MORE THAT'S GOING TO BE WORKED ON OR HAVE BEEN WORKED ON OR WHATEVER.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I'M IN I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS BUT I ALSO TO SEE Y'ALL DO WHAT YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO. THANK YOU THANK YOU, CAROLYN, IF YOU WILL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN AND YOUR ADDRESS ON . I FORGOT TO ASK YOU TO DO THAT.

CAROLYN SMITH 1/1 STREET YOU ARE BETTER KNOWN AS YOUR STREET THANK YOU I'M NEXT CAROLYN THANK YOU VERY MUCH MY NAME IS SKIP HOAGLAND WINDMILL HARBOR BLUFFTON UNDER ASSAULT AND FINGER LEADERSHIP BECAME A MINI BANANA REPUBLIC TO PROFIT THEIR POCKETS SO CALLED REALTOR AND FINGER TO PROFIT PRIVATE LAW FIRM DEVELOPED WITH DEVELOPER REALTOR AND BUILDER CLIENTS TUMA AND THE REST OF THIS COUNCIL JUST TOOK ORDERS AND WE'RE TOLD HOW TO VOTE ON MOST ISSUES. TEMER WAS BASICALLY SO CLOSE PUPPET AND CAN ASSURE YOU THAT AN OYSTER KNOWS MORE ABOUT DEVELOPING TRAFFIC AND POLLUTION THAN TUMOR DOES.

BLUFFTON IS BROKEN. IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED FIRST WE NEED TO ELECT A NEW HONEST MAYOR WITH NO CONFLICTS, NO HORSES IN THE RACE, NO NOT CONTROL BY TERRY FINGERS SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS WE NEED TO TRY TO CHANGE OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM TO A FULL TIME FULL POWER MAYOR WITH THE RIGHT HIRE AND FIRE AND HILTON HEAD IS THE SAME WAY NEXT REPLACE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS LIKE TOOMER WHO WERE TOLD HOW TO VOTE THEIR CAUSE THE OVERDEVELOPMENT, THE TRAFFIC AND THE POLLUTION OF THE MAIN RIVER. NO ONE MOVED HERE FOR HILTON HEAD OR A BIG CITY LIFE NOR OUR CORRUPT REALTOR, REALTOR, MAYOR AND TOWN LAWYER RICH NEXT FAR TERRY FINGER 25 YEARS OF HIS OVERCHARGE LEGAL FEES CONFLICT PROPERTY HIS PRIVATE LAW FIRM MUST END WE NEED TO HIRE A STAFF LAWYER AND ONLY USE OUTSIDE FIRMS WHEN NEEDED.

WE NEED FIRE AND SEE ALL OF FINGER'S LEGAL FEES AND OTHER LEGAL FEES PAID BY TAXPAYERS FOR 25 YEARS. I PREDICT LEGAL ROBBERY NEXT TERMINATE THE ENTIRE HIGH

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BLUFFTON POLICE FORCE IT IS CONTROLLED BY SO FINGER IN THIS COUNCIL IT'S LIKE A POLICE STATE THEY TOOK ORDERS EVEN BREAK LAWS AND AND IF THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THE ORDERS THEY CAN BE FIRED WE NEED TO REPLACE THE BLUFFTON POLICE FORCE WITH SHERIFF TANNER WHO IS THE DULY ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE AND THE CHIEF ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OF COUNTY.

HE HAS NOT HIRED OR CONTROLLED BY CORRUPT POLITICIANS NEXT NEED TO TERMINATE BLUFF IN PRIVATE CONTROL JUDGES THEY ARE ALSO TOLD HOW TO RULE ON CASES LIKE MINE BY FINGER AND TOWN OFFICIALS AND WORSE JUDGE BUSH RULED AGAINST THE RULE OF LAW THAT FORCES ME TO APPEAL TO HIGHER COURTS. IF YOU WANT TO WIN. IT'S JUDICIAL MALFEASANCE.

I CONTEND THAT ALL BUDGETS AND AUDITS ARE FRAUDULENT ALL THE YEAR END AUDITS ONLY AUDIT THE NUMBERS HANDED TO THE AUDIT FIRM BY TOWN INSIDERS AUDITS UNDER GAS DO NOT IDENTIFY WASTE FRAUD CRIMES AND OVERCHARGE LEGAL FEES ONLY A PROFESSION INDEPENDENT FORENSIC AUDIT FIRM CAN ACCOMPLISH IF ONCE A FORENSIC AUDIT FIRM OR AN FBI INVESTIGATION IS DONE ON BLUFFTON I PREDICT PRISON WILL RESULT AND GOD HELP US IF WE STILL HAVE 45% MORE DEVELOPMENT TO GO. WHAT DO YOU CALL THIS? IS THIS PROGRESS OR DESTRUCTION YOU DECIDE. THANK YOU, MR. HOAGLAND. YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME.

JUST MOVE ON. BUT WE HAVE NO REALLY I'M HERE FOR MS..

REALLY COULDN'T COULDN'T ATTEND. AND I HAVE A PLAY DOCUMENT THAT HAPPY TO HAND OUR OUR HONEST LAWYER AND HAVE REALLY DON'T HAVE 3 MINUTES I JUST WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THE PLAY TO SEE WHETHER IT'S ABOUT OR NOT, WHETHER IT'S HAVE THE VIDEO, WHETHER IT'S VALID OR NOT. YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK FROM ONE 3 MINUTES. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT MR.. OH, I'M SORRY I'M HERE FROM THIS REALLY AND JUST YOU KNOW I'LL PLAY FOR YOU I GUESS THE RULE OF LAW AND HE IS GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IF YOU ARE DONE A JUDGE BOX RULED OUT OF ORDER I'M I'M I'M TALKING TO YOU. I'M NOT OUT OF ORDER TERRY FINGERS OUT OF NO YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. ALL RIGHT, SO OUT OF ORDER AND I LOOK AT YOUR COMMENT IS OVER JUST LIKE EVERY MORNING I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU ALL. I JUST ASK WITH MR. HOAGLAND WE'RE GOING TO ASK LIKE WE DO EVERY MONTH YOU CAN EITHER HAVE A SEAT OR WE WILL HAVE THE POLICE ESCORT YOU OUT LIKE I JUST HANDED THE PLATE OF TERRY FINGER.

MR. HOAGLAND, THIS IS YOUR LAST ONE I'M ASKING TO SPEAK FOR MR. GREELEY.

WILL YOU PLEASE JUST CALL GREELEY? YOU AND THIS GREELEY SELECTED SPEAKER 3 MINUTES. SO IF YOU COULD JUST SHOW ME RESPECT WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE IT IF GROUNDHOG WELL HERE WE GO HOW ABOUT SOME COMMUNICATIONS FROM MARIN COUNCIL?

[IX. COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL]

SO I GUESS IF I HEARD FOUR HAD YOU GOT ANYTHING TO SAY? YEAH I JUST WANTED TO COMMUNICATE WHAT AN AMAZING TURNOUT WE HAD IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.

THIS WHOLE CELEBRATING THE BIRTHDAY AND LEGACY OF DR. MLK AND A HUGE THANK YOU TO TOWN STAFF WHO HELPED COORDINATE AND HELP MAKE A LOT OF THOSE EVENTS RUN AS EFFICIENTLY THEY DID.

AND FOR THOSE WHO CAME OUT IN ATTENDANCE I BELIEVE WE FED OVER 300 YESTERDAY AT THE UNITY AND HAD JUST A GREAT, GREAT WEEKEND SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR THAT.

UM ALSO I KNOW SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WERE IN THE AUDIENCE REPRESENT MAIDEN LANE AND JUST WANTED TO COMMUNICATE THAT WE WENT OUT A FEW WEEKS AGO AND DID THEIR CONCERNS IN TERMS OF GHOST ROADS IN ARE GLAD TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH RESIDENTS AS WELL WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO KEEP THEIR CONCERNS OF NOT OBSTRUCTING OR OR CHANGING THEIR THEIR WAY OF LIFE ON THOSE ROADWAYS AS WE ACQUIRE THEM.

THANK YOU, DAN RENTERIA WHO I IT WAS A BIG WEEKEND AND STARTED OUT WITH THE LOSS OF A GOOD BLUFF DON'T YOU MR. DOUG CORCORAN AND I THINK THE BEAUTY OF IT WAS DOUG HAD EULOGY AT A.M.E. CHURCH AND DR. JOHN BLACK DID A FABULOUS JOB. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE TALKING

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ABOUT IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO SAY THIS IT WAS THE BEST THEY'D EVER BEEN TO.

IT WAS JUST REMARKABLE AND THE CHURCH WAS FULL TO THE TO THE TO THE BRIM SO THAT WAS STARTED OUT AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAD THE GALA THAT BRIDGET SO SO TACTFULLY DID WITH MLK AND YOU HAD A GREAT SPEAKER. MS. HARRIS SHE HAD SHE WAS JUST PHENOMENAL AND THEN WE HAD THE MAYOR'S RETIREMENT WHICH WAS NICE AT THE ROTARY CENTER AND AND THEN WE HAD OUR LITTLE TRIBUTE TO MLK DAY YESTERDAY AND IT WAS WELL-ATTENDED. SO IT WAS A BIG WEEKEND AND IN THE TOWN BLUFFTON AND I FOR ONE WAS PROUD TO BE A PART OF IT. YEAH.

YOU KNOW TO THE I DIDN'T GET TO THE FOOD YESTERDAY BECAUSE I WAS COOKING FOOD FOR AN EVENT THAT WE HAD GOING ON BUT HE DID THE OTHER NIGHT YOU KNOW THAT WAS THAT WAS GREAT.

HE DID A GREAT JOB AND APPRECIATE IT AND I WISH WE COULD HAVE DONE MORE FOR THE MAYOR GOING OUT BUT OH WELL SHE'S NOT GOING TO LOSE OVER A SEAT OR TWO SO ANYWAY I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS FOR THAT CAME TONIGHT MOST OF MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY ARE GONE BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE HALF A DOZEN OR SO LEFT OVER HERE MANY MORE MOMENT BUT UM AND I JUST THANK EVERYBODY AND B AND I ASK TO BE WITH ME BECAUSE I KNOW I'M ONE OF THOSE CENTERS AND I WILL BE MAKING MISTAKES, YOU KNOW AND I KNOW HOW WE ARE SO JUST BEAR WITH ME AND I'LL TRY TO CORRECT

[XI.1. Consideration of a Resolution Establishing an Improvement and Maintenance Plan for Roadways in Old Town – Heather Colin, Assistant Town Manager]

THEM AND GET BETTER AS GROW AND AS LONG AS LONG CONTINUE TO LEARN SO I'M FOR A FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS AND CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING AN IMPROVEMENT ON AND MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR THE ROADWAYS AND OLD TOWN MISS HEATHER COLLINS TOWN MANAGER SO YES WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A PROPOSED RESOLUTION THAT ESSENTIALLY ESTABLISHES IMPROVEMENT AND MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR ROADWAYS IN OLD TOWN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT PRIMARILY ONE IS SO THIS THE MAP HERE FRONT OF YOU OUTLINES ROADS WITH AN HISTORIC AS FAR AS WHO THE OWNERSHIP NAME THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ON THAT ROAD WHETHER IT BE LIGHTING SIDEWALKS OR TRAFFIC CALMING WITH SPEED HUMPS AND THEN ALSO THE UNKNOWN ROADS WHAT WE REFER TO COMMONLY AS GHOST ROADS. SO I DO WANT TO AND THAT THIS POLICY IS FOR ALL THE STREETS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND ONE CONCERN IS YES, THOSE GHOST ROADS THAT ONCE THE OWNERSHIP IS CLEARED UP WHAT WHAT'S THE TOWN'S PLANS FOR IT? BUT IT DOES ADDRESS ALL OF THE ROADS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT YOU CAN WELL I'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT IT BACK TO THIS I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT PRIMARILY THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET JUST OUTLINES WHAT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THOSE ARE AT THIS TIME SO THAT RIGHT NOW COUNCILS GOALS AND DIRECTIVES ISN'T TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THOSE STREETS BY ANY MEANS.

WE AS EVERYONE KNOWS IN THE BUDGET WE OUTLINE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND MOVING FORWARD SO ANY ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WOULD BE PART OF THAT BUDGET PROCESS AND PART OF THAT LIST OTHER THAN THE ALREADY APPROVED STREETSCAPE PROJECT. SO THE SECOND PHASE OF BRIDGE AND THEN LATER CALHOUN STREET THERE ARE NO BY TOWN COUNCIL AT THIS TIME TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THOSE STREETS. THE RESOLUTION ALSO AIMS TO OUTLINE THAT SHOULD THE RESIDENTS REQUEST ANY IMPROVEMENTS OR CHANGES I SHOULD SAY SO FOR EXAMPLE STREET CALMING AND SPEED BUMPS WE ALREADY HAVE A POLICY THAT OUTLINES HOW THE RESIDENTS GO ABOUT THAT SO IT STARTS WITH AN APPLICATION AND A REQUEST AND I BELIEVE IT IS 75% OF THE OWNERS ON THAT STREET ARE REQUESTED TO AND I WANT TO SAY SIGN A PETITION BUT AGREE THAT REQUEST AND THEN IT MOVES FORWARD TO COUNCIL. SO AGAIN GOAL IS TO SIMPLY REITERATE TO THE PUBLIC THAT THERE ARE NO PLANS TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE STREETS.

THERE'S NO PLANS AT THIS TIME BY THIS COUNCIL TO CHANGE ANY OF THE CHANGE THE LAYOUT OR THE STREETS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. AND IF ARE ANY PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WOULD COME FROM THE RESIDENTS AND WOULD GO THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS AND THEN ALSO IF TOWN COUNCIL DOES HAVE ANY FUTURE PROJECTS THAT LIKE I SAID THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THE

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CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THEN ULTIMATELY BUDGET SO AGAIN THIS JUST THIS IS A MAP THAT SHOWS WHAT THE CONDITIONS HAVE AT THIS TIME AND THEN THE RESOLUTION IS IN YOUR PACKET AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND THE QUESTION THINK THE RESOLUTION APPLIES TO ROADS THAT OUR GHOST ROAD THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ACQUIRED OR WILL THIS ALL WILL JUST COVER FUTURE ROLES TO BE ACQUIRED AS WELL? FUTURE ROADS AS WELL.

AND I ALSO WANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS DOES NOT THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE POLICY OR THE DIRECTIVE THAT STAFF HAS ALREADY RECEIVED CONCERNING GHOST ROADS AND THE ACQUISITION OF THOSE AND HOW WE MOVE BUT YES IT DOES APPLY FOR EXISTING ROADS AS WELL AS FUTURE GHOST ROADS THAT WE MAY ACQUIRE AND WITH THAT WITH THE RESIDENTS OF OF MAIDEN LANE AND A CONCERN THAT THEY HAD IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS AT THIS TIME THAT SOMETHING TO DISCUSS WITH HERE IN TERMS OF A CONCERN ABOUT SO THE CURRENT PLAN THAT SHOWS A CUT WAY THROUGH SOMEONE'S AND THAT BEING ONE OF THEIR CONCERNS OF SIGNING OVER I WOULD DEFER TO COUNCIL AS FAR AS HOW AND WHEN YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT I WILL SAY THAT BASED ON THE RESOLUTION AND HOW IT'S DRAFTED IS THAT THERE IS NO INTENTION IF IS NOT ALREADY A PHYSICAL PATH OF ROAD QUOTE UNQUOTE ROAD TO BE ROAD ROADWAY THAT NO INTENTIONS TO CREATE ONE BY THIS COUNCIL AT THIS TIME BUT I'LL DEFER TO COUNCILOR IF YOU'D LIKE TO FURTHER DISCUSS THAT LEGAL ADD ON TO THAT ANSWER AS WELL SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANTED TO DO THIS IS BECAUSE WE HEARD QUESTIONS IS THEY COMING BUT WHEN WE GO AND SPEAK TO RESIDENTS.

THEY'LL SAY YOU KNOW I JUST WANT THIS SO YOU CAN CONNECT IT TO ANOTHER ROAD OR YOU WANT TO GET IT SO YOU CAN IMPROVE IT OR WIDEN WE AND WHEN WE SAY WE HAVE NO DIRECTION TO DO THAT AND COUNCIL HAS GIVEN US THE DIRECTION TO DO THAT WE HAVE NOTHING TO PROVE THAT.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS ABOUT PUTTING THIS INTO PLACE WHEN THE RESIDENTS SAY WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR LIKE THEY MADE AND WE CAN LOOK ON HERE AND SAY COUNCIL'S DIRECTIVE IS GIVEN STAFF IS TO ONLY MAINTAIN IT AS IS WITH THE CURRENT OF IT'S PAVED IF IT'S GOT SIDEWALKS OR SPEED IF THERE'S NO LIKE SHE SAID NO CONNECTION THAT'S ALREADY BEEN MADE WE WOULD MAKE NO CONNECTION IN THE WAY THIS IS OUTLINED IS AT ANY TIME WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS IS GOOD ALL THE WAY THROUGH OUR PLAN WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A VOTE TO, GET YOU ALL TO TELL US TO CHANGE FROM THAT.

THAT WAY THE COMMUNITY GETS INVOLVED THEY GET TO BE ABLE TO GIVE INPUT AND WE CAN'T GO OUT THERE AND MAKE ANY TO ANY ROAD IN OLD TOWN WITHOUT THEM HAVING A CHANCE COME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND VOICE THEIR CONCERN. SO THAT WAS THE MAIN REASON WE WANTED TO DO THIS SO WE COULD HELP QUELL SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS WE GET AND THE QUESTIONS WE GET THE SHOW TO SAY SHOW ME WHERE DON'T HAVE A PLAN.

WE CAN NOW SHOW THIS IS OUR PLAN FOR HOW WE WILL NOT MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR THAT STATEMENT. I THINK THE GREATER CONCERN WAS THAT THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO WAS ACTING ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN DOING THE EXACT OPPOSITE PREVIOUSLY AND SO IT RAISED A LOT OF CONCERN FOR THOSE RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF THE WE'RE A NEW COUNCIL ARE AIMING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THEIR MINDSET IS STILL ON THE DISCUSSIONS OF WHAT PREVIOUSLY WAS WAS STATED AND SO IT MAKES A LOT OF FOLKS APPREHENSIVE AND WHY I SAID IN THIS AND WHAT WE'RE ACQUIRING THE THE PURPOSE IS GOOD BUT THERE'S A LOT OF APPREHENSION THAT HAVE TO ADDRESS IN THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T IGNORE FROM RESIDENTS PARTICULARLY ON NATIVE STREETS WHO DO FEEL A SENSE HERE OF APPREHENSION THAT THEY DON'T WANT HAVE WHAT THEY DEEM AS A TAKEOVER OR A CHANGE TO THEIR WAY OF LIFE. AND AS LONG AS WE CAN GET SOME ASSURANCES THROUGH HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS EVEN IF IT REQUIRES US DOCUMENTING THAT TO THEM JUST TO MAKE PEOPLE TRUST WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE I THINK IS GOING TO GO A LONG WAYS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO FORCE IT THROUGH AND NOT HAVE THE TRUST OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME BACK DO SOMETHING ARBITRARY TO THEM AND ANYTHING.

YEAH I DON'T THIS IS ROADS THIS DOESN'T PRECLUDE UTILITY EASEMENT STORMWATER OR THINGS LIKE THAT THIS IS JUST SAYING WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE ROADS THAT ARE THERE IT ALSO GIVES US THE ABILITY TO PERFORM THE MAINTENANCE THAT'S NEEDED THAT NOBODY OWNS THE ROADS THEY BENEFIT FROM IS ALWAYS ONE OF THE MAIN PURPOSES OF THIS.

YOU KNOW IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING ON A ROAD AND THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS IF YOU HAVE FIVE PEOPLE SAYING YES AND SAYING NO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DO.

SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT AS WE GO AND WE DO HAVE A PROCESS THAT YOU CAN

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RELOOK AT AS FAR AS IF THERE ARE FIVE PEOPLE AND ONE SAYS NO THAT THAT IT GOES THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS WITH COUNCIL SO WE DO HAVE THAT IN IT AGAIN IT'S SIMILAR WHAT FOR EXAMPLE WHEN PRITCHARD STREET REQUESTED SPEED BUMPS ON A ROAD BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A GHOST ROAD SO THERE'S THE PROCESS TO GO THROUGH TO REQUEST THAT THERE'S SPEED BUMPS AND THE RESIDENTS REQUESTED THAT WAS THE PROCESS AND NOW THERE'S SO IT'S SAID THAT CITY PROPERTIES THEN 5% WOULD HAVE TO BE DECIDING NUMBER THAT THAT SOMETHING AS HAS ALWAYS BEEN DOCUMENTED WE REQUIRE 75% NO THAT'S SOMETHING IS IN THAT TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY THAT STAFF ADOPTED I KNOW IT'S IN THAT RESOLUTION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND TOWN COUNCIL GROUP THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY AIMED AT STREET CALMING AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GOING TO USE MOVING FORWARD JUST AS A POINT FOR RESIDENTS TO BRING FORWARD REQUESTS BUT CERTAINLY WE ALWAYS TAKE REQUESTS AND THEN IT'S THAT COUNCIL AS WELL WHETHER OR NOT TO DISCUSS HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PROPOSED CHANGES SO IT IS FLEXIBLE BUT IT'S JUST A GUIDE AND SOMETHING TO START MOVING FORWARD. I DON'T THINK I DISAGREE WITH SENDING 5% BUT 51% WOULD HAVE BEEN THE OPTION THAT OPTION BUT I DON'T I DON'T KNOW 35% TAKES A LOT AGAIN BACK TO BRIDGES POINT AND EVEN QUESTION TO YOU WHERE DO WE DOCUMENT INCREASES IS THERE SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT WE SHARE WITH THE RESIDENTS SO THAT WOULD BE THIS AND IF YOU LOOK AT MAP THAT'S SHOWN YOU'LL SEE THE KIND OF BROWN AND YELLOW DASHED THEY'RE CLASSIFIED AS HISTORIC RIGHT OF WAY IN INACCESSIBLE THAT IS THEIR CURRENT CONDITION SO WOULD MAINTAIN THAT CURRENT CONDITION SO IN OTHER WORDS THEY'RE JUST HISTORIC RIGHT AWAY THEY'RE NOT A BUILT ROADWAY UNLESS WE'RE TOLD SEPARATELY BY COUNCIL TO AMEND THAT WE WOULD HONOR IS INACCESSIBLE AND JUST RIGHT AWAY IT WASN'T SO THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL IS BUT THERE IS THERE IS COUNSELING PEOPLE SOMEWHERE THAT SAYS THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD BE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SO I UPON ADOPTION THIS WOULD BECOME THAT THAT'S BEEN THE ISSUE IS THEY SHOWS WILL SHOW US WHERE IT SAYS THAT AND WE CAN'T SO THIS WOULD GIVE US THAT ABILITY NOW AND I WE ATTEMPTED TO GET ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IN THAT DRAFT RESOLUTION THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET DON'T HAVE IT SUPER HANDY TO PULL UP HERE BUT I CERTAINLY CAN SO THERE'S SOME SOMETHING STRONGER THAT BASED ON THE CONVERSATION TODAY IN THE DIRECTION WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD IT TO THAT RESOLUTION BUT THAT WAS THE GOAL IS TO GET ALL OF THOSE WORDS IN THAT RESOLUTION TO GET TO KNOW I PERSONALLY THINK IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION NOT SEEING WHEN WE'RE DEAD AND GONE TO THIS NEW COUNCIL COULDN'T COME AND OPEN THOSE BACK UP AND DECIDE TO PUT FOUR LANES IN BETWEEN ALL THESE ON THIS GOES FOR US AND I THINK THIS GOOD SERVICE TO ME AND THE NEXT THING THE NEXT STEP I'M TRYING TO SEE WHAT WHAT I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE MONEY IN FROM BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING USED IN A HOUSE THAT HAVE STRUCTURES THEM. I GUESS THIS IS THE FIRST THING GET THIS DONE AND TRY GET THE ALL THE QUICK GOING DEEDS AND GET IT SECURED SO TO SPEAK AND THEN WE NEED TO GO AND VISIT THOSE THAT HAVE STRUCTURES STUFF AND EITHER GIVE IT TO THOSE PEOPLE OR SELL IT TO THOSE PEOPLE OR YOU KNOW HAVE NO NEED FOR US TO OWN IT IF SOMEONE ELSE IS USING IT SO TO SPEAK AND WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF GOING TO HAVE ANY INTENTION TO DO ANY OF THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO WE COULD JUST CLEAN UP THAT WHOLE YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S SOME THOSE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING BETTER TO MOVE FORWARD THAT WILL REMIND ME OF THAT. WE DISCUSSED ALREADY THAT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE THESE ROADS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN EASEMENTS UTILITY EASEMENTS THEN WE WILL GLADLY EITHER BACK TO TAKE THOSE TO GO BACK TO THOSE RESIDENTS THAT'S THERE BUT BUT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING DID IT BACK TO THEM AND IT NEEDS MAINTENANCE RESPONSE

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PEOPLE AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE IT'S A GHOST ROAD POLICY OR SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF WHAT SPACE RESOLUTION THAT WOULD THAT WOULD COME LATER? WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT AND FIGURE OUT A PLAN THAT'S FAIR AND AND RIGHT FOR EVERYONE.

THE DIRECTION WE HAVE RECEIVED IS ONCE WE HAVE THEM ALL IN PLACE THEN WE CAN CONSIDER THOSE INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS FOR THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES THROUGHOUT AND COUNCIL CAN VOTE IF THEY WANT TO ABANDON THEM OR TRANSFER THEM OR SELL THEM OR WHATEVER THEY MAY WANT TO DO DEPENDING ON THE UNIQUE SEARCH CIRCUMSTANCE FOR EACH ONE. OKAY MOTION IS THERE MOTION TO APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS TO NOT TABLE THE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING AN IMPROVEMENT AND MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR ROADWAYS AND OKAY WELL I THINK THERE'S MODIFICATIONS THAT THEN WE HAVEN'T ALL AGREED ON SO WHAT I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE IMPROVEMENT WITH THOSE MODIFICATIONS WAS I KNOW THERE WAS A STRONG CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL WHAT MIGHT MODIFICATION CAN I ASK WHAT MODIFICATIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR AN EXAMPLE IS THERE STILL IS STILL A WORKING DOCUMENT THERE'S STILL WORK TO BE DONE BUT THIS IS THIS IS STILL THE FIRST STEP TO A MAINTENANCE. RIGHT AND I HAVE NO I KNOW WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF CONNECTING OR BUILDING ANYTHING. RIGHT.

AND THIS ONE'S JUST ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE ROADS. WE CAN FURTHER LOOK AT THE GHOST ROAD POLICY AND DIRECTION LIKE THE TOWN MANAGER GIVING BACK THAT'D BE SEPARATE BUT GOT IT. GOT IT. OKAY.

OKAY ELIZABETH, WOULD YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION OR SIMPLY TO MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY. I SHOULD I MEAN IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE? I TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION IS THERE WAS AN IMPROVEMENT IN MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR ROADWAYS IN THE OLD TOWN A SECOND. OKAY. ON PAPER I HAVE A VOTE.

NOBODY THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY . THANK YOU HELEN BUT UP NEXT IS

[XI.2. Consideration of a Resolution Approving the Purchase of 140 Buck Island Road - Stephen Steese, Town Manager]

CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING PURCHASE OF GOING 40 BUCK ISLAND ROAD TO CEASE GETTING THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL SO WE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS IN PUBLIC SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTRODUCTION JUST FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC BUT . WE TALKED EARLIER DURING THE PRESENTATION THAT HEATHER MADE ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO CONTROL THE OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT RIDES OVER DEVELOPMENT, SMART GROWTH AND ALL OF THAT.

ONE OF THE POLICIES THAT COUNCIL AND HAS GIVEN DIRECTION AND IS ACTUALLY FUNDED IS FOR STAFF GO OUT AND TRY TO FIND PROPERTY TO ACQUIRE THAT MAKES SENSE TO REDUCE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD HAPPEN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE THOSE RIGHTS OFF THE BOOKS AS WELL AS BE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT IT'S LOCATED WITHIN SO ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE WE DISCUSSED COUNCIL EARLIER LAST YEAR OR IT'S CRAZY TO SAY MIDDLE OF LAST WAS SORRY 140 BUT COLIN WROTE A NUMBER OF WHEN I WENT OFF ON MINE IT'S ABOUT IT'S OVER 15 AND A HALF ACRES BUT IT'S LOCATED RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND BUCK ISLAND ROAD SO IT IS DIRECTLY NOT BUT REALLY CLOSE TO WHERE WE'VE SEEN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER WHERE THEY PUT A BUNCH OF PROPERTY TOGETHER. NOW IT'S BEING CLEARED AND DEVELOPED INTO ABOUT 80 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THIS WOULD KEEP SOMETHING SIMILAR FROM HAPPENING ON THIS PROPERTY WHILE AT THE SAME TIME GIVING US A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE SIMMONS COMMUNITY WHERE WE'VE LOOKED FOR LAND IN THE PAST AND TRY TO LOOK AT SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY PARK WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY WITHIN THAT AREA .

SO THE LAST PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED ON THIS PROPERTY CAME WITHIN THE LAST YEAR AND IT ACTUALLY SHOWED 61 TOWNHOMES POTENTIALLY ON THE SITE. SO AGAIN JUST THE WAY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TO POTENTIALLY GROWTH AND LIMIT IT AS WELL FOR THE COMMUNITY WE DISCUSSED THIS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BACK IN JULY AND COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION TO ME TO GO OUT AND TRY TO WORK ON GETTING A PRICE AND WORKING ON BRINGING FOR THIS PROPERTY SINCE THAT TIME WE PUT TOGETHER

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A NON-BINDING LETTER OF INTENT AND AGREED TO A PURCHASE PRICE OF $2.5 MILLION FOR THAT PROPERTY AND NOVEMBER 3RD WE EXECUTED A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT THAT IS CONTINGENT COUNCIL APPROVAL. SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE UP UNTIL THIS POINT IS SPECIFICALLY LIMITED TO WHETHER COUNCIL WANTS TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY NOT SHOULD COUNCIL NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. WE ARE NOT BOUND FOR ANY TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY BUT IF COUNCIL DOES FORWARD WE HAVE THE TERMS IN PLACE AND WE WOULD LOOK TO CLOSE PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT 2 TO 4 WEEKS ON THE PROPERTY.

SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LITTLE SHORT OF ABOUT $45 MILLION AND LAND ACQUISITION FUNDS SO THIS WOULD USE UP ABOUT HALF OF THAT SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE FUTURE TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT ADDITIONAL PROPERTY KIND OF TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT WHERE IT IS BUT IT'S 15.51 ACRES GIVE OR TAKE IT DEPENDS ON WE'RE STILL WAITING THE ALTA SURVEY TO BE FINALIZED ON RIGHT AWAY AND DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU READ IT SOMEWHERE AROUND 15 ..5 A LITTLE OVER HALF OF THAT 8.63 ACRES IS UPLAND AND A LITTLE LESS SEVEN ABOUT SEVEN ACRES IS WETLAND.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SIZE OF PARKS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, YOU CAN LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE IMPROVED AT BOTH DUBOIS AND MARTIN AND THOSE A LITTLE OVER A COUPLE OF ACRES.

SO THERE'S STILL THERE'S ROOM FOR LOTS OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE MADE FOR THIS PROPERTY FOR THE COMMUNITY SHOULD WE WANT TO ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY GOOD TIMING FOR THIS SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE TO MOVE IS WE'RE IN THE STEPS OF TAKING THE BACK ON SOME INFILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND THE DRAFT FROM THE WORK WORK COMMITTEE AND IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC INPUT AS PART OF DOING THAT IF WE HAVE THIS PROPERTY UNDER CONTROL AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS CLOSING WE CAN USE THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS AS A CHANCE TO GET INPUT FOR THE POTENTIAL REUSE OF THIS PROPERTY FROM THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR WHAT THE RESIDENTS THAT AREA ARE WANTING TO SEE THIS AS POTENTIALLY BE USEFUL THAT THEY COULD SAY THEY WANT TO SEE IT COMPLETELY LEFT WOULD IT THEY COULD SAY THEY WANT TO SEE A COMMUNITY CENTER.

THEY WANT A PARK THEY WANT WHO KNOWS BUT THAT WAY WE HAVE THEM HELP US GUIDE WHAT THE FUTURE OF THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE BESIDES JUST MAKING THAT DECISION ON BEHALF THE COMMUNITY. SO IT'S A GOOD TIMING IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EVERYTHING LINING UP WITH US BEING OUT IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. SO THIS GIVES YOU AGAIN AN IDEA OF WHERE PROPERTY IS.

LIKE I SAID IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND BUCK ISLAND AND THIS IS JUST THE ALTA SURVEY. THIS IS THE LAST STEP OR WEDDING ON IT TO BE FINALIZED TO BE UPDATED. AND AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT IT COULD BE USED FOR THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHAT THE ZONING CURRENTLY ALLOWS IT AND LAST TIME WE HAD IT WAS FOR 61 TOWNHOMES. SO AGAIN THAT'S A POTENTIAL USE THAT COULD GO ON THIS PROPERTY.

SO SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD AND ADOPT THE ACQUISITION RESOLUTION TONIGHT WE WOULD HAVE OUR 90 DAY DUE DILIGENCE WOULD EXPIRE THE 1ST OF FEBRUARY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE BY MARCH 4TH. I ANTICIPATE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CLOSE PROBABLY THE 1ST OF FEBRUARY SO WE COULD GET THE PROPERTY UNDER CONTROL AND WORK ON GETTING ON AND FIGURING OUT WHAT WE WANT TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR OR AT LEAST TAKE IT OFF THE BOOKS SO IT CAN'T BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS MY PRESENTATION SO I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME. WOULD YOU GO? YES SIR. THANK YOU. THE 61 UNIT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S TRANSFERABLE TO THE THIS DOES NOT HAVE DEFINED RIGHTS I THINK THIS IS IN OUR REGULAR ZONING SO WHAT YOU CAN FIT UNDERNEATH OUR CODE ON THE PROPERTY IS WHAT CAN BE BUILT SO ACQUIRING THIS PROPERTY WE JUST USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE OF .

THE LAST TIME SOMEBODY CAME IN TO TRY TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY IT FOR 61 UNITS IF THEY COULD FIT MORE ON THE PROPERTY AND STILL MEET OUR CODE IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY MORE OR BE POTENTIALLY LESS BUT BECAUSE IT'S IN OUR CURRENT IT'S NOT IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IT DOESN'T HAVE A DEFINED RIGHT ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THANK YOU AGAIN THE 61 UNIT BASED ON 15 ACRES OR 80 IT'S BASED ON THE UPLAND ACRES OF WHAT COULD BE BUILT IN THE DIRECTION WILL TAKE THE ONE UNIT ON IT IS ARE WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE CAME IN AND TRIED TO BUILD ONE SINGLE APARTMENT BUILDING IT I WANT TO SAY IT WAS KEVIN DO YOU REMEMBER IT WAS LIKE 100 285 THERE'S YEAH THEY WANTED TO BUILD 285 APARTMENTS ON IT.

I DIDN'T SEE CODE BUT THEY CAME IN TRYING TO DO THAT SO I'M 100% IN FAVOR OF US PRESENTING THIS PROPERTY FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS AND DEFINITELY TO START DEVELOPMENT ESPECIALLY

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THOSE ON THAT ROAD WHICH I THINK IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE BASED ON WHAT WE SEE IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN AND HAS HAPPENED. IT ALSO GIVES THE TOWN HAS SHOWN VERY GOOD LEADERSHIP AND STEWARDSHIP AS FAR AS TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE CULTURE OF THE COMMUNITY SO THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU BRAZIL NO QUESTIONS JUST SOME THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE LEAD IN PUSHING YOU KNOW THE CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL FOUR BECAUSE IS ECHOING THE SENTIMENTS OF COUNCILMAN HAMILTON WE SEE THE THE RAPID CHANGE THAT'S GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE AREA PARTICULARLY AS WE SEE THE RISE OF OF THE EFFECTS OF THINGS GENTRIFICATION AND SO BEING ABLE TO GO IN AND HELP RELIEVE SOME OF THAT BY ACQUIRING PROPERTY IN THESE SPACES I THINK IS GOING TO BE INSTRUMENTAL ESPECIALLY ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THINGS MORE SO LIKE THE GREEN TAX THE ANY ANYTIME WE CAN TAKE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND OTHER THINGS OFF OF THE BOOKS AND PRESERVE MUCH LAND SPACE AS WE CAN I THINK WE'RE DOING THE DUE DILIGENCE OF WHAT I THINK THE GREATER COMMUNITY APPRECIATES ALSO SO KUDOS THAT KEEP THE MORE THAT WE CAN DO THAT MORE ACCESS TO FIND THE WE HAVE I THINK A BETTER FOR CONTINUING WORK ON IT OUR JOB BUT I GOT TO ASK YOU WHAT DOES IT APPRAISE FOR THE APPRAISAL WAS ACTUALLY LESS THAN WHAT THE OFFER WAS FOR BUT WE HAD THE APPRAISAL DONE RIGHT AROUND THE TIME THAT THE PROPERTY OF IT SOLD FOR I THINK IT WAS FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT OUR APPRAISAL CAME IN RIGHT ABOUT $2 MILLION THEY HAD IT LISTED FOR 3 MILLION AND WE SETTLED RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. OKAY.

I THINK PART OF THIS WAY OF GETTING SO SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD TO HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION HERE IS VERY LONG BECAUSE IT OUT LONG BONDS ALL THE DETAILS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PURCHASE SO I APOLOGIZE I MAY BE KEVIN AND THE LONGEST RESOLUTION PUT UP THERE WHO WANTS TO MAKE LOVE OR DOES ANYONE WANT MAKE A MOTION THERE ? I MOVED TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OF AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF THE CONVENIENCE OF THE PARCEL OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED IN BLUFFTON SOUTH CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 15.5 51 ACRES OF LAND A REAL REAL BECAUSE THE REAL PROPERTY IDENTIFIED AS MAP ARE 610 0310 $0 000330000 IN THE SELLER'S RIGHT TITLE AND INTEREST IN 15.51 ACRES OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FROM LLC TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, SOUTH CAROLINA FOR THE PURCHASE PRICE OF $2.5 MILLION AND OTHERWISE IN THE EXECUTION IN RECOGNITION OF CERTAIN DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION OR THERE WITH ANY DISCUSSION I ASSUMING WAS NO THANK YOU.

[XI.3. Consideration of an Ordinance Amending the Town of Bluffton FY 2024 Budget to Provide for the Expenditures of Certain Funds and to Allocate Sources of Revenue for the Said Funds – First Reading - Natalie Majorkiewicz, Director of Finance]

UP NEXT CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO PUT FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET TO PROVIDE FOR EXPENDITURES OF CERTAIN AND TO ALLOCATE SOURCES OF REVENUE FOR THE SAID . FIRST READING MISS NATALIE MONTGOMERY DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL. I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT THE SECOND BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024. TO BEGIN I WANTED PROVIDE THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 PROJECTED FUND BALANCE WE ARE PROJECTING CURRENTLY $3.5 MILLION TO ADD TO FUND BALANCE FROM FISCAL YEAR 2023. ADDITIONALLY WE'RE PROJECTING ADDITIONAL 575,000 SO FAR IN FISCAL YEAR 2024 WITH A PROJECTED SURPLUS SURPLUS REVENUE. THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT INCLUDES BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH THE MARKETING PLAN AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CLASSIFICATION AND COMPENSATION STUDY THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY .

THERE ARE ALSO SOME ONETIME EXPENSES IN BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR CAPITAL EQUIPMENT FOR PUBLIC SERVICES AND ADDITIONAL COMPUTER EQUIPMENT THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE CAPITAL ASSET RESERVE FUND . THE LAST COMPONENT IS AN AMENDMENT FOR HOLODECK HOLIDAY DECORATIONS THAT WILL BE FUNDED FROM A TRANSFER FROM

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HOSPITALITY TAX FUNDED IN TOTAL . THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS TO INCREASE THE GENERAL FUND BY $600,475 TO SUPPORT THE CLASS AND COMPLETE AND PLAN EXCUSE ME FOR $80,000. THE MARKETING PROJECT FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AND THEN THE I.T. INCREASE FOR THE COMPUTER AND LAPTOP DOCKING STATION REPLACEMENTS STILL WITH GENERAL FUND PUBLIC SERVICES IS IS PROPOSED TO INCREASE FIVE $417,175.

AS NOTED THE TRANSFER FROM HOSPITALITY TAX FOR THE DECORATIONS AND THEN CAPITAL TO CAPITAL EQUIPMENT FOR $242,175 THIS YEAR SHOWS THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE HOSPITALITY TAX FUND THE TRANSFER OUT TO GENERAL FUND WHICH BRINGS THE HOSPITALITY TAX FUND TO 800.

I'M SORRY JUST OVER $8.6 MILLION AND WE ALSO TO SHOW THE MID-YEAR FINANCIAL UPDATE WHERE WE ARE WITH HOSPITALITY TAX WHEN COMPARED TO LAST YEAR AT THIS AT THE SAME TIME CURRENTLY WE'RE UP JUST OVER 11%. HERE YOU SEE ALL OF OUR BUDGETED FUNDS.

THIS AMENDMENT WILL BRING THE TOTAL CONSOLIDATED BUDGET TO $93,201,889 AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY THAT YOU MAY HAVE RAISED. YES.

IS IT IS MY OWN I HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT MAKING THIS DECISION TONIGHT WITHOUT EITHER A PUBLIC WORKSHOP OR EVEN COUNCIL INPUT ON THIS SAID EXPENDITURES THE ALLOCATED ON THE IS IS BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT. THIS IS ONE TIME WHEN I TO THE PHYSICAL RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR THE FUNDS THAT WE THAT WE ALLOCATE IN DON'T THINK I DISAGREE WITH EVERYTHING BUT I WANT TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE OTHER SUGGESTIONS OR HAVE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN COUNCIL CAN HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATION AS WELL SO THAT THIS IS KIND OF STAFF DRIVEN SO IS MY DESIRE TO TABLE THIS UNTIL WE CAN HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY IN COMMITTEE.

I CONCUR. I BELIEVE I KNOW IN COURSE OF OPERATING THE TOWN THERE'S ALWAYS EXCEPTIONS TO A RULE USUALLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE ONE EXCEPTION BUT THIS ONE HAS FOR I THINK IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS WHICH IS WHAT MR. HAMILTON IS SAYING. SO I CONCUR. I THINK IT GETS TABLE AND AGREES WITH TABLING SO CRUCIAL MOTION THE TABLE A VOTE ON THAT THREE DOESN'T NEED A SECOND MOTION IS FRED'S MOTION TO TABLE. OKAY.

AND WHO'S SECOND DALE? I'LL SECOND IT MORE DISCUSSION OF VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I I I I WAS NONE AS UNANIMOUS AND I THINK YOU OFFERED ANOTHER TABLE AND DEFINITELY. NO, NO, NOT INDEFINITELY. WE CAN CONSIDER NO FOR ITSELF OR THE COUNCIL OR BUT GOING TO MEETINGS 22 MEETINGS WITH CHRIS AND SAM BANTER ANY QUESTIONS GET IT READY FOR NEXT MONTH THAT WOULD BE ONE. WELL I WOULD LIKE FOR ALL OF COUNCIL TO IN IT AND IT WOULD NEED A FORMAL. YEAH WELL LET ME ASK THIS YOU TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER I DON'T KNOW WHY I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS.

IT'S ONLY A FEW MONTHS OUT. NORMALLY THESE ITEMS WOULD BE REQUESTED DURING A BUDGET PROCESS SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED TO COME BACK AND DO A WORKSHOP.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING BASED ON THE. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE. I AGREE WITH THEM.

ALL RIGHT. SO JUST DON'T DON'T BRING BACK THE BUDGET DURING THE BUDGET

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BUT DURING THE BUDGET BE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2425 WHICH IS A FEW MONTHS AWAY.

SO DAN COMMENT IS TO NOT TO DISCUSS THIS PART OF THE BUDGET THAT WOULD BE ADOPTED IN JULY AND NOT TO DO ANY OF THESE CHANGES IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

YOUR COMMENTS ARE TO BRING IT BACK NEXT MONTH AND DO A WORKSHOP OR WHATEVER.

SO WHAT WAS VOTED ON BY COUNCIL? THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. I JUST DIDN'T THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO COMPROMISE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT LIKE TO HEAR FROM ALL THE COUNCIL TWO AND TWO DOESN'T GIVE ME A IT DOESN'T GIVE ME A SATISFACTION TO KNOW THAT WE ALL ARE ON THE SAME PAGE THE SAME TIME. WELL AGAIN I GUESS WE CAN REVISIT OR REWORK THE MOTION BUT I'M JUST I'M ADAMANT I FEEL THIS IS A BUDGET PROCESS. YOU HAVE FOUR ITEMS YOU TALK OF SIX $700,000 YOU USE I WON'T USE YOUR WORDS. IT WAS DRIVEN AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT EVEN DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS WE WOULDN'T APPROVE THESE BUT I JUST THINK I HATE TO CAST THAT STONE AND SAY THIS BECOMES NORMAL UNDER OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE THIS WE HAVE BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOW.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WAITING FEW MONTHS TO FOLLOW THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THAT'S JUST ME. YOU ALL FEEL DIFFERENTLY AND THAT'S THE PREROGATIVE OF DOING SO SO IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR AS MUD. SO I WOULD JUST SAY BASED ON THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN HAMILTON THAT PAST WE SHOULD BRING THESE BACK POTENTIALLY LOOKING FOR A TIME TO BRING THEM BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN WOOD MAY NOT APPROVE THEM BUT BASED ON THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE THERE MAY STILL BE CONSIDERATION FOR SOME TYPE OF AMENDMENT WHETHER IT MAY NOT BE FOR ALL THESE OR PART OF THESE OR ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT MAY HAVE OTHER PRIORITIES COUNCIL SO WE CAN BRING THAT BACK AS A WORKSHOP MAYBE AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT MONTH MEETING AND GET COUNCIL'S INPUT AND THEN MAKE A DETERMINATION ON HOW TO PROCEED FROM THERE. I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE YOU HAD TO GO FIRST. I THINK WE WE WERE SEEING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

ONE WAS SEEING THE PROCESS. WE DO BUDGET AMENDMENTS ALL THE TIME AND I UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY YEAR THERE NEEDED YOU KNOW, NOBODY CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.

I THINK WHAT DAN GOT DOWNSCALED IS THE FACT THAT JUST HE FEELS LIKE BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS EXTRA MONEY WE CAN GO BUY MORE STUFF THAT WE DIDN'T NEED IT BUDGETED DURING IN THE BUDGET EITHER WE DIDN'T NEED IT OR WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T GET IT APPROVED SO THESE ITEMS WERE NOT REQUESTED THE BUDGET. SO WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO THINGS I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD BE AGAINST SPENDING THE MONEY ON THE ITEMS ARE LISTED. I DON'T THINK I WOULD PERSONALLY LIST MORE THE PROCESS OF JUST SAYING OH WE GOT EXTRA MONEY, WE WANT TO BUY SOMETHING MORE SPENDING WHEN BUDGET TIME AS YOU KNOW COMING UP IS THE END OF JANUARY NOW SO IT'S NOT VERY LONG BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S THE ISSUE IS AM I RIGHT EXACTLY AND A COUPLE OF MY COMMENTS. SURE. SO THE PURPOSE OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ARE FOR ONE OR TWO TWO REASONS EITHER YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE COVER EXPENSES AND YOU HAVE TO CUT EXPENSES OR YOU HAVE MORE REVENUES THAN EXPECTED AND YOU MAY BE ABLE TO USE THOSE REVENUES TO ADDRESS CURRENT YOUR PRIORITIES TO ADVANCE CURRENT YOUR PRIORITIES. IN THIS CASE WE ARE IDENTIFYING ADDITIONAL REVENUES AND WE WERE WHAT THE TOWN MANAGER WAS ATTEMPTING TO PROPOSE IS ADDRESSING SOME OF THE FUNDING OF PRIORITIES THAT YOU HAVE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET ALREADY IT'S ADVANCING THE NEXT STEP OF THOSE PRIORITIES. SO THINGS THE CLAUSE IN CURRENT PLAN YOU APPROVED AS PART OF THE BUDGET THIS WILL HELP FUND IMPLEMENTING THAT COST AND COMP PLAN EARLIER THAN THE NEW BUDGET YEAR. AGAIN THAT'S YOUR CHOICE TO DO IF YOU WANT TO BUT THAT IS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THAT PARTICULAR ONE.

THE AUDIO EQUIPMENT SAME THING. SO THE IDEA EQUIPMENT AS WELL THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE RENEWALS AND REPLACEMENTS THAT ARE AN ANNUAL BASIS AND THIS WOULD ADDRESS THOSE EARLIER RATHER THAN LATER. THE OTHER THING THAT WANT TO POINT OUT AS WELL IS THAT ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL WAS BROUGHT TO US AND PASSED WAS THE GROWING FUND AND WE ADDRESSED THAT THROUGH OUR FUND BALANCE POLICY IS STILL OVERFUNDED AND IF WE DON'T USE SURPLUS REVENUES NOW WHICH IS COMPLETELY FINE. IT'LL ADD TO THAT THAT FUND BALANCE THAT SURPLUS WILL ADD TO THAT FUND BALANCE AND WE START A BUDGET PROCESS BASED ON

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WHAT OUR ASPECTS OF REVENUES ARE NOT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN RESERVES AND TYPICALLY YOU DON'T WANT TO PULL FROM RESERVES UNLESS IT'S FOR EMERGENCY OR ONE TIME PURPOSES.

SO WHEN YOU START YOUR NEXT BUDGET PROCESS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RELY ON THOSE DOLLARS ANYMORE. YOU'RE ONLY RELYING ON WHAT YOU HAVE FOR THE UPCOMING REVENUE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. SO DEPENDING ON WHAT THE NEEDS ARE OUT OF THE BUDGET IT MAY HINDER YOUR ABILITY TO ADDRESS THOSE ONCE THOSE DOLLARS GO INTO YOUR FUND RESERVE BECAUSE AGAIN YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO PULL FROM THAT UNLESS IT'S AN EMERGENCY OR ONE TIME PURCHASES OR IF YOU DO IT FOR OPERATING PURPOSES RATING AGENCIES LOOK NEGATIVELY UPON THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MARKETING PLAN THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS A PART THIS INITIATIVE WE PASSED IN SEPTEMBER WHICH I ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT COMING UP AND THIS WAS THE AS PART OF ISSUE PLANNING TO HOW WE PROMOTE AND ADVANCE THAT INITIATIVE.

SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WERE CARRIED ON FROM ALREADY ESTABLISHED PRIORITIES OF COUNCIL. AGAIN, I'M NOT MAKING A CASE THAT WE VOTE ON IT TONIGHT.

I JUST WANT TO PUT CONTEXT AROUND THAT AS YOU MAKE THAT DECISION AGAIN, IF WE DON'T FUND IT THIS YEAR FROM SURPLUSES, IT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT'S PROJECTED FROM REVENUE FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE SURPLUSES WILL JUST GO INTO OUR RESERVE AND AGAIN YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO PULL THOSE FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES AND ONE TIME FOR PURPOSES THERE'S A LAW THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T MOVE INTO THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE AS THERE IS NO.

ABSOLUTELY NOT. OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT EXACTLY ACCURATE.

I NEVER SAID I SAID IT RIGHT FROM A STRATEGIC STANDPOINT. RIGHT ONCE.

IT GOES INTO THOSE RESERVES. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DRAW DRAW FROM THEM WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES UNLESS IT'S FOR EMERGENCY OR ONETIME PURPOSES. LET ME SAY I HAVE STAFF DOES A GREAT I MEAN I'M NOT CONDEMNING ANYTHING HERE AND LARRY SUMMED IT UP FOR ME WE OPERATE BY BUDGETS AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S EXCEPTIONS THAT I SAID THAT STATED THAT IN THE BEGINNING MY MY FEELINGS IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE COME UP THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF A YEAR HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT ITEMS COME UP BECAUSE WE FOUND SOME MONEY AND WE FOUND A WAY TO SPEND THAT MONEY DID NOT GO WELL WITH ME I DIDN'T LIKE THAT PROCESS AND THEN IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY SUPPORT WITH IT AND IN THE STAFF REPORT THERE WAS NO SUPPORT SO THAT ME EVEN WORSE BECAUSE WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS WE GIVES SUPPORT AND WE HAVE WE ASK OUR QUESTIONS AND WE'RE GIVEN THE ANSWERS. SO THIS DID NOT SIT WELL WITH AND SO YOU KNOW, AGAIN I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF COUNCIL I'M NOT CHANGING MY OPINION THE BUDGET'S COMING UP IN A FEW MONTHS YOU KNOW IF THEY DECIDE IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO GO AHEAD AND DO A WORKSHOP OR WHATEVER WE MAY DO THAT SO BE IT. THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST EMPHASIZING MY PERSONAL OPINION AND TWO BY TWO WILL BEGIN IN MARCH OF MY RECOMMENDATION THAT IF IT DOESN'T MOVE FORWARD WE AS WELL WAIT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET PROCESS OVER SAY THAT AGAIN CHRIS I'M NOT SURE BUT OUR PROCESS FOR NEXT YEAR BEGINS ACTUALLY IT'S UNDERWAY RIGHT TO BACK TO JUST DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER AND ON THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET WILL BE IN MARCH IF WE DELAY THEM ON FOR A WORKSHOP AND THEN DO TWO ADDITIONAL READINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT APRIL FOR THE BUDGET APPROVAL AT THAT POINT YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST WAIT FOR THE INCLUDING IN THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. ARE THERE ANY OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO I MEAN THAT OUR OR THAT WE ARE IN SERIOUS NEED FOR NOW YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING I'D NEVER SAY DON'T BUY A TRACTOR OR A COMPUTER IF WE NEED IT OR A TELEPHONE.

I MEAN AS FAR AS THE ADVERTISING THE FARMERS GET THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT NOTHING HERE WILL SHUT THE TOWN DOWN IT OR DELAY SOME OF THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU HAD ALREADY SET OUT OF OUR CURRENT BUDGET. ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW IS ON THERE IS THE CHRISTMAS DECORATION. ONE BENEFIT OF BUYING IT SOONER THAN LATER IS THE COST SAVINGS . YEAH. OKAY.

WELL EMOTIONS ON THE FLOOR OF THE IS ACTUALLY BEEN VOTED ON FORWARD A ZERO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING FROM CLARIFICATION FROM COUNCILMAN HAMILTON ON WHAT HIS MOTION ENTAILED BECAUSE WAS HIS MOTION THAT PASSED AND THAT MOTION DID NOT ACTUALLY READ ABOUT HAVING THE WORKSHOP AND IT DID IT NO SUCH A TABLE IT WAS JUST IT JUST TABLED IT.

THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. THE MAYOR HAS THE RIGHT TO TO PERFORM AGENDAS FOR NEXT MONTH SO THE MAYOR WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE HE CREATES AGENDAS ALONG WITH OUR TOWN MANAGER AND IF WE WANT TO BRING IT BACK

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NEXT NEXT MONTH FOR A WORKSHOP AND A VOTE OR JUST WORKSHOP THAT'S UP TO THE MAYOR TO OR OR NOT PUT IT BACK AND TRY TO TO BUDGET PERIOD. RIGHT GOOD THAT HASN'T COME I DON'T WANT TO COMMENT. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL AS I SAID TO MAKE AMENDMENTS OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO IF THE CONSENSUS IS TO TABLE IT LET'S TABLE AND GO TO THE NEXT MONTH TO BE ABLE TO WORKSHOP AND EVERYONE GIVE INPUT AND NOT BE A TWO BY TWO.

WELL IF WE DO THAT LIKE CHRISTMAS WE'LL JUST WAIT AND LET IT BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET PROCESS IF WE WANT AND WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO READINGS ANYWAY RIGHT MEAN EITHER WAY I'M JUST SAYING LIKE BACK TO THE POINT OF WHAT WE'VE MADE IT'S NOT THAT IT'S A FOREIGN THING TO REQUEST AMENDMENTS OUTSIDE OF A BUDGET CYCLE. THE ISSUE ISN'T EVEN THAT IT'S AN AMENDMENT BEING REQUESTED IT'S MORE SO THE ISSUE OF THE AMOUNT AND NOT HAVING THE SUPPORT THAT WAS BOTHERSOME SO I MEAN IF WE WANT TO WAIT UNTIL MARCH WE CAN BUT IF THE WHOLE INTENT WAS TO BE ABLE WORKSHOP IT TO GET SUPPORT IF WE CAN DO IT AND MONTH AS THEY ALL WERE TIED INTO PRIORITIES THAT WERE ALREADY ESTABLISHED WHY NOT DO THAT AND ALLEVIATE THAT EXTRA SET FROM THINGS WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE COVERING IN THE BUDGET IN MARCH THE ORIGINAL WORKSHOP WAS NOT PART OF THE INTENTION. THE INTENTION WAS STAFF REAGAN FORWARD AND WE VOTE TO APPROVE IT THAT WAS THE INTENTION NOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF THE PROCESS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT IS NOT UNCOMMON IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS OF BOUNDS. WHAT'S MISSING IS THE LACK OF SUPPORT TO SUBSTANTIATE THE FUNDS THAT ARE BEING ASKED HERE OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF BEING ABLE TO GIVE INPUT AS SOME WOULD HAVE LIKED OR ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THESE DESIGNATIONS WERE WERE FOR OPPOSE IT JUST THINKING THAT IT'S LAYOVER FUNDS FROM SOMEWHERE SO LET'S JUST SPEND IT WHILE WE HAVE IT . WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF THE CONSENSUS IS BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THAT IS TO GET THE SUPPORT WE CAN DELAYED UNTIL MARCH BUT IF THEY'RE ABLE TO DO IT NEXT MONTH THAT'S JUST MY INPUT. WHY NOT JUST PUT IT OUT OF THE WORKSHOP ITEM FOR NEXT MONTH'S? WE HAVE TO COUNCIL. SO THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THIS THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE THE MOTION WAS VOTED ON. THE MOTION WAS TO TABLE IT AND THE MOTION ALL THE OTHER TIMES WHEN PEOPLE COME BEFORE US WE VOTE TO TABLE SOMETHING. IT'S REMOVED FROM THE FROM THIS AGENDA. THAT'S RIGHT. HIS OFFICE IS OFF THIS AGENDA RIGHT NOW. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THAT IT'S OFF THIS AGENDA. SO THAT SHOULD BE THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW AND MARY CAN PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK. THE MAN WHO PUT IT BACK ON THE DESK IN THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE PASSED SO THE ARGUMENT FROM ME ON THAT OKAY IT'S NOT BUT IT'S EVEN ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT INPUT ALSO IF THERE IS NOT CLARITY HERE SHE IS RIGHT DAN I MEAN SO I MEAN DON'T DON'T DO THAT LIKE IF WE'RE THE MAYOR YOU CAN PUT IT BACK ON ON THE AGENDA NEXT BUT THE TOWN MANAGER WAS ASKING WHAT WE JUST SAID TABLE HE WAS ACTING FOR CLARITY IF STAFF PREPARED SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT INTEL TO THEM AS WELL NOT THIS IS THE ONE AND DONE WE'LL GET TO IT WHEN WE DO. COUNCILOR JUST SAID WHAT I JUST SAID.

HE REITERATED THE FACT THAT THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE THE MOTION HAS VOTED UPON.

IT'S BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA AND THE END OF DISCUSSION AND RIGHT.

I MEAN AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT HE DID FOR TONIGHT WHAT WE DO TOMORROW IS TOMORROW CORRECT. AND THAT'S YOUR CALL TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA OR NOT? YOU KNOW, I'LL TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT TOMORROW. WE GOT ENOUGH FISH TO FRY

[XI.4. Consideration of an Ordinance Authorizing an Economic Development Incentive Agreement between the Town of Bluffton and Solomon Property Holdings, LLC in support of the development of 15,000 square feet of a Health & Wellness Facility - First Reading - Chris Forster, Assistance Town Manager]

TONIGHT. OKAY. MOVING ON TO CONSIDERATION MY ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE SENATE OF BETWEEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND SOLOMON PROPERTY HOLDINGS LLC IN SUPPORT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS FACILITY THE FIRST READING MR. CHRIS PASTOR ALL RIGHT GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF GOVERNANCE A BRIEF BACKGROUND WHAT PROCESS HAVE SET UP FOR THIS NEW INCENTIVE PLAN? WHAT THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS GRANT TERMS AND MY ANALYSIS ON THE PROJECT JUST A REMINDER BACK IN SEPTEMBER 12TH COUNCIL PASSED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PLAN. WE IDENTIFIED IN THAT PLAN A PRIORITY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AREAS SOUTH CAROLINA 172 PARKWAY AND BLUFFTON PARKWAY

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WITH A PRIMARY FOCUS WAS THE BUCKWALTER AND WITH THE TARGETED BUSINESS PURPOSES OF HEALTH CARE, DENTAL, HOME HEALTH, PHARMACEUTICAL CHILD CARE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING MIXED USE, COMMERCIAL AND FLEX AND CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS. SO RIGHT NOW OUR PROCESS RIGHT NOW IS TYPICALLY TO OUT TO ME OR SOMEONE OUT OF TOWN THEY ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A LETTER OF INTENT AS WELL AS FILL OUT OUR SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE ECONOMIC IMPACT WORKSHEET I WILL INTERVIEW THE BUSINESS OWNER OR DEVELOPER ON THEIR PROJECT AND GET ANY CLARIFICATION AND I WILL REVIEW THEIR APPLICATION AND DEVELOP A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BEFORE YOU ALL FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. SO WHAT WE HAD COME IN OUR FIRST APPLICATION WAS FOR A ONE STORY DENTAL OFFICE BUILDING WHICH IS CONNECTED TO A TWO STORY TENANT BUILDING. OUR TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDINGS ARE 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF CLASS-A MEDICAL OFFICE SPACE AND THEY ARE THEY ARE 5000 THAT WILL BE FOR A DENTAL OFFICE. THE REMAINING 10,000 AS PART OF OUR REQUESTING FOR A GRANT THEY'RE WILLING TO COMMIT TO VISIT IT FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS RELATED PURPOSES.

AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THE PERSON HOUSING. ONE OF THEM IS A PRIMARY CARE MEDICINE, MEDICAL OFFICE, OPHTHALMOLOGY, RHEUMATOLOGY, MEDICAL SPINE, ORAL SURGERY THESE ARE ALL IN TALKS RIGHT NOW ESTIMATED FOR THE TOTAL OF THERE IS A 128 FULL TIME POSITIONS WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF OF OPENING AND AVERAGE OF $105,000 IN TOTAL DEVELOPER INVESTMENT OF THIS PROJECT IS 10.89 IS A QUICK LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS IN THE NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT AS YOU CAN SEE OVER TO THE LEFT IS YOUR DENTAL SPACE CONNECTED IN THE BACK TO THAT TWO STORY BUILDING WITH A LITTLE GARDEN COURTYARD AREA IN BETWEEN THERE YOU MAY RECALL THAT AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR PERMIT IT AND DEVELOPMENT FEES UP TO 50% FEE FOR JASPER WATER SEWER CAPACITY FEES TO 100 AND BUSINESS LICENSE FEES UP TO 50% FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS.

THERE IS ALSO A CATCH ALL IN THERE THAT IF THERE ARE DEVELOPMENTS OR PROPOSALS SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH THAT COUNCIL FINDS AN IMPORTANT BASED ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE THEY CAN OFFER OTHERS AND THOSE AS DETERMINED BY YOU ALL AND PART OF DEVELOPING SOME GUIDANCE ON LOOKING AT THESE PROJECTS WE DEVELOPED A ELIGIBILITY THAT KIND OF GIVES SOME GUIDANCE TO ANYONE WHO REACHES OUT ASKING YOU KNOW WHAT COULD I POTENTIALLY BE ELIGIBLE FOR AND WE KIND OF TIER TWO HERE AS OBVIOUSLY THE LARGER THE DEVELOPMENT DEDICATED TO ONE OF THOSE THOSE INDUSTRIES OR PROFESSIONS OR GET THE POOR OR PROPOSED TO GET THE FULL PERCENTAGE CREDITS AS PART OF A GRANT SO AGAIN THIS IS 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF CLASS A AND WELLNESS OFFICE SPACE. THE GOAL IS TO ESTABLISH AN OPERATION BY APRIL 1ST OF 2025 AND COMMIT THE REMAINING 10,000 SQUARE FEET TO THOSE HEALTH AND WELLNESS RELATED TENANTS.

THE GRANT WOULD BE PAID ON APRIL 1ST AND THE PROPOSED GRANT EQUIVALENT WOULD BE 50% APARTMENT FEES 20% WOULD BE FOR JOBS FOR CAPACITY FEES AND AGAIN THE 50% OF BUSINESS LICENSE FEES FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS IS A QUICK AT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS WISE ON THE LEFT ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT FEES THAT THESE DEVELOPERS ARE ON THE HOOK FOR.

THESE ARE ESTIMATES CURRENTLY UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY GET CALCULATED AND PAID WE WON'T KNOW THE EXACT BUT SOME OF THESE ARE EXACT BUT IN VARIOUS STAGES.

ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT HERE THE ASKED COUNCIL TO CONSIDER INCLUDING THE IMPACT FEES THAT ARE PAID TO THE COUNTY AS PART OF THIS PROPOSAL.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THAT LIST AS WELL. SO THE TOTAL FEES THAT THEY ARE PAYING US THE COUNTY AND FOR IMPACT FEES AND JASPER FEES ARE $142,000 UM BASED ON THIS THE PROPOSED PERCENTAGES THE YEAR ONE BENEFIT WOULD BE $91,000 AND THEN THE ONGOING BUSINESS LICENSE FEES IN THE OUTYEARS. AND KEEP IN MIND BUSINESS LICENSE FEES ARE JUST RELATED TO THE PROPERTIES AND THE DENTAL OFFICE. IT DOESN'T INCLUDE BUSINESS LICENSE FEES RELATED TO BUSINESSES THAT MAY LOCATE IN THAT 10,000 SQUARE FOOT.

WHAT IS THIS HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THE TOWN'S COFFERS BASICALLY? NET NET WE'RE PRETTY MUCH OFF PROPOSING TO GRANT BACK ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY PAY TO

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THE GOVERNMENT FOR THESE DIFFERENT FEES NET REVENUE OVER FIVE YEARS ABOUT 3000 BASED ON THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL, ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS I HAD YOU HAVE OUTLINED HERE THANK YOU. SO IS THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD HE ALREADY HAD OUTLINED HERE? I'M KIND OF OH THIS IS BASED ON A DENTAL FACILITY RIGHT SO IT'S A DENTAL FACILITY A PART OF IT. SO THE DEVELOPER IS ALSO GOING TO OWN AND OPERATE THE DENTAL FACILITY AND THEN HE IS GOING TO LEASE OUT THE REMAINING 10,000 SQUARE.

I KNOW WE WANT TO DO MEDICAL AND TECHNOLOGY AS PART OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE SUCH SMALL OPERATION FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THE KIND OF OPENING WE WILL FIND SOMETHING THAT COULD OFFER MORE JOBS IN A FACILITY CERTAINLY THERE'S MORE THAT IS RUN BY THREE PEOPLE IN OH HOW HOW HOW ARE WE GOING GET OUR INVESTMENT BACK ALL TYPES OF MONEY ON SOMETHING OF LITTLE SMALL YEAH SO I JUST SAY THAT THIS PROGRAM IS NOT A ONE AND DONE PROGRAM SO IT'S IN OUR ORDINANCE AND THE GOAL HERE JUST LIKE A SNOWBALL GOING DOWN THE HILL IS TO BUILD SOME MOMENTUM, SHOW THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE ADOPTED.

WE'LL GET SOMETHING EMPLOYEES GET A DEVELOPER TO COMMIT TO HEALTH AND WELLNESS RELATED BUSINESSES AND I WOULD SAY THAT WILL GRAB SOME ATTENTION. I HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY OTHER INDIVIDUALS SOME SMALLER SOME LARGER THAN WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED ANYWHERE FROM JUST 10,000 SQUARE FEET ALONE VERSUS UP TO SOMEONE THAT'S LOOKING TO 50,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO THE WORD IS OUT. IT'S GETTING OUT THERE. I THINK THAT USING THE ORDINANCE AS IT WAS INTENDED WILL HELP BUILD MOMENTUM AND THIS INDIVIDUAL IS WILLING TO COMMIT THOSE REMAINING 10,000 FOR OUR FACILITIES AS WELL. AND TO YOUR POINT THE COMPANY OWNS AND I THINK IT WAS TWO PARTS AND THEY ARE ONE I SAW THERE WAS A PROJECTION OF 67 ADDED JOBS BUT AND SOMETHING HERE I JUST SAW I THINK 120 SO THE 67 IS YEAR ONE, THE PROJECTED YEAR ONE AND 128 IS OVER THE FIVE YEARS AS BUSINESSES COME IN AND THEY GROW THEIR PRACTICES. OH SORRY YOU DON'T I LOVE THE PROGRAM.

I MEAN AGAIN AND WE ALL KNOW THAT WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO NEED AT LEAST A YEAR TO DO A LOOK BACK TO TWEAK IT AND IMPROVE IT TO SEE IF IT'S WORKING AS INTENDED.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD THE OTHER THE OTHER NIGHT WAS YOU KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE WE ACTUALLY BASED ON THE INVESTMENT IT WAS 1% AND IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY.

AND SO IF YOU BUILD IN A $10,500,000 OPERATION AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS $96,000, I DON'T KNOW THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING MOVE AND RELOCATE A BUSINESS BUT I THINK IT'S A START AND AGAIN I APPLAUD STAFF. WE'RE BEING INNOVATIVE TO UP WITH A PROGRAM TO HELP US TRY TO ACHIEVE THE THINGS WE WANT. THE ONLY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WAS A COMMENT THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION WAS AND I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS IN THIS FORMULA BUT THE 65 JOBS I JUST I COULDN'T FATHOM A 5000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH 65,000 JOBS THAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE EXCUSE ME 65 SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE OFFICES OCCUPYING ALL 15,000 SQUARE FEET. WELL THAT SAID, IT WENT UP 228 JOBS AT THAT POINT THAT THAT'S THE GROWTH OF PRACTICE TIME. SOME OF THESE WILL PROBABLY START WITH MAYBE ONE DENTIST OR ONE DOCTOR AS THE CLIENT OUTCOME AND THE THAT THEY RECRUIT MORE INDIVIDUALS AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING WAS I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THESE I KNOW THIS WAS A CONCERN THAT THE MAYOR HAD MENTIONED TO ME AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND SO SO THAT WAS A DISCUSSION WITH DEVELOPER WAS I KIND OF WENT OVER WHAT HE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR BASED ON THE TOP IT WAS THOSE TOP THREE ITEMS TOM PERMANENT DEVELOPMENT IS FOR JASPER AND BUSINESS LICENSES AND HE BROUGHT UP YOU KNOW IMPACT FEES ARE QUITE SUBSTANTIAL AND I EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT WELL THOSE ARE ACTUALLY PAID TO THE COUNTY CLARIFIED THAT FOR HIM AND AND

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I SAID, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE ORDINANCE IT DOES GIVE THE COUNCIL OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER OTHER ITEMS TO INCLUDE IN THE GRANT AND I SAID I PROPOSE IT BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT IT SO IS INCLUDED AS A PROPOSAL AGAIN THE TOTAL AT 140 TO 150 IS AGAIN ONLY 1% OF THE TOTAL INVESTMENT HE'S MAKING. SO THE 47000 TO 45 FOR THE IMPACT FEES AGAIN I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS I'M NOT OPPOSED UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A BETTER ARGUMENT BUT THAT MONEY TO PAY THE IMPACT BACK PIECE COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND IT WOULD IT WOULD COME OUT OF WHAT HE PAYS IN THESE OTHER FEES BUT YES GENERAL FUND IT BECAUSE IT ALL GOES IN THE GENERAL FUND RIGHT AND THEN IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY YOU MENTIONED A MINUTE CHRIS, THE 50,000 SQUARE FOOT POTENTIAL I THINK YOU SAID SO THAT INDIVIDUAL WALKS THROUGH THE DOOR IS THE IMPACT THESE ARE GOING TO BE FIVE TIMES THIS NUMBER WOULD BE COULD BE AND ARE WE SAYING THAT WE WOULD THIS PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT WE WOULD OFFER THIS TO ANYONE WHO ASKED ON THE IMPACT THESE AGAIN THAT'S THAT'S YOUR DISCRETION ON A CASE CASE BASIS NOW I THINK WHAT YOU'RE RELAYING IS THE CONCERN OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT YOU KNOW I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE CONCERNED OR YES.

YES. YEAH, THAT'S CHRIS. YOU KNOW, I PUT IT BACK ON THAT SCREEN. WELL, YEAH. THERE WE GO.

I'M FINE HERE AND YOU KNOW WHEN WE SAY OVER FIVE YEARS WE'RE ONLY GIVING A $96,000 FIVE YEAR BENEFIT, THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GIVING ANYTHING AFTER THE FIRST YEAR BASICALLY OTHER THAN 1400 DOLLARS. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHICH IS MEANS I KNOW THAT'S THE ONLY THING YOU KNOW I MEAN MAYBE WE COULD FIGURE SOME WAYS TO INCREASE THOSE SECOND AND THIRD YEARS, YOU KNOW, WITH SOMETHING I WOULD MUCH RATHER SPREAD OUT OUR GRANT OVER TO THREE YEARS OR YOU KNOW, OR EVEN MORE TO HELP THEM GET GOING THAN TO OBLIGATE TO THE IMPACT PIECE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S NOT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THIS BUT IT DOES KIND OF SET A PRECEDENT AND WHEN YOU GET THAT BIG COMPANY COMING IN WHERE YOU DID IT FOR THEM, HOW COME YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR US AND THAT NUMBER COULD GO FROM 23,000 230,000 REAL QUICK AND I WOULDN'T PERSONALLY WANT TO KEEP AN EYE WITNESS.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO SET THAT PRECEDENT ON THE IMPACT FEES. I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO BE OPEN MINDED ON ANY OTHER THING YOU CAN COME UP WITH TO TO HELP OR HELP THEM MORE THAN JUST THE FIRST YEAR IT WOULD BE MAXED OUT EVERYTHING ELSE. SO I HAVE YOU.

YEAH WELL WITHOUT IT EVEN THEIR PROPERTY TAXES WE COULD ALWAYS USE THAT AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS. WHAT THEIR ANNUAL PROPERTY BILLS HOLIDAY THEY WOULD DO THAT FOR BIG CORPORATIONS BUT AGAIN SO AGAIN IS A PRECEDENT THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SET AGAIN I CAN I CAN DO THAT OR NOT I MEAN WITH A SUNSET I WOULD HAVE SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY TAXES FROM THEM NOW. RIGHT.

SO IF YOU HELP THEM BUILD SOMETHING THEN YOU CREATE THE TAX ON THEM.

YEAH IF YOU DON'T YOU KNOW IF IT TAKES A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET IT BACK THEN THAT'S BUSINESS BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S JUST NOT GOOD COUNSEL IN WE ADOPT A POLICY WHERE THEY SAID WE ARE IN JUST JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU CAN DEVELOPERS WE'RE GOING TO CAP IMPACT FEE AT LIKE 25 OR $30,000 SO IT'S UNDER IT AT THIS POINT IN TIME BUT.

THEN FROM A PRECEDENT PERSPECTIVE I GUESS THIS IS WHAT COUNSEL PRETTY MUCH TOLD ME THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO BEYOND THAT, GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL AMMUNITION FOR PEOPLE DOWN THE ROAD. YEAH PERHAPS BUT THEY WOULDN'T AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. YEAH I HEAR YOU.

I HADN'T HADN'T THOUGHT OF IT THAT WAY. I THINK YOU NEED TO PUT IT IN THE ORDINANCE BUT THEY CAN CERTAINLY EXPRESS THAT TO YOU. MAYBE THAT MAY BE I'LL STILL JUST HATE WRITE A CHECK GIVING YOUR CHECK AWAY TO SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T EVER SEE WE DON'T YOU KNOW THE IMPACT FEES GO TO THE COUNTY. WE'RE GOING TO WRITE OUR CHECK . WELL, FOR THE MONEY THAT THEY GAVE THE COUNTY I DON'T KNOW I'M RIGHT AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

I'M JUST OUT THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE BELOW THAT YOU HAVE THE BJ SAY CAPACITY FEES AND

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THOSE ARE CREDITS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN DOING SEWER PROJECTS THAT WE WILL ALLOW THE CREDIT TO BE USED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGAIN THOSE ARE FEES THAT WE DON'T COLLECT THAT WE ARE ALLOWING THE THAT WE PUT ON THOSE PROJECTS TO THEN BE RECOGNIZED THE BENEFITS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AGAIN FOR THEM SO NOT ONE NOT NOT NECESSARILY APPLES TO APPLES BUT STILL SIMILAR AND THAT IT'S A FEE THAT IS GOING TO A DIFFERENT ENTITY THAT WE'RE TO OFFSET AND WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE WITH BJ ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGAIN I'M NOT ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER JUST POINTING OUT THAT WE DO OFFSET OTHER FEES FOR DIFFERENT ENTITIES BUT JASPER GIVES US THEY GIVE US THOSE CREDIT MONEY TO PUT PIPES IN THE ON THEIR BEHALF.

RIGHT. WE SPENT MONEY TO BUILD THOSE UP.

LOOK, LET ME LIKE I SAID, I WAS LOST AND I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND IT AND AGAIN I'M NOT KNEE IN I CAN SEE AGAIN I CAN SEE THE NUMBERS GOING UP UNLESS. WE KEPT HIM AT SOME WAY BUT THEN AGAIN THE WAY THIS THIS PLAN THE ORIGINAL BLUSH THAT YOU AND I WENT THROUGH WITH SOME PEOPLE THE SMALLER PROJECTS BASED ON INVESTMENT TO A LARGER PERCENTAGE THE GREATER PROJECTS IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU WENT FROM $1,010 MILLION PROJECT TO $30 MILLION OR $40 MILLION PROJECT, THE PERCENTAGE THAT IS GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT LESS THE MONEY WOULD MORE BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS MORE BUT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE BENEFIT THE CUSTOMER IS LESS.

SO I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF HAVING IMPACT FEES THAT WE PAY A BAD THING OR A GOOD THING.

OBVIOUSLY YOU PUT IT IN HERE IF WE TOOK HIM OUT HE WOULDN'T EVEN HIT THE 1% RIGHT.

IT WOULD BE LESS THAN THAT. IS THERE ANY OTHER MECHANISM TO USE THAT YOU WOULD OFFER OR YOU THINK THIS IS THE BEST TOOL TO GO BY AGAIN? I THINK I THIS PROGRAM FROM A STANDPOINT OF HOW DO WE PROVIDE AN INCENTIVE WITHOUT DIPPING INTO OTHER REVENUE SOURCES.

SO I ALWAYS WANTED TO LOOK AT IT FROM WHAT OF WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL REVENUES THEY WERE GOING TO GENERATE AND WHAT CAN OFFSET THROUGH A GRANT? SO OUTSIDE OF THESE OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES SO USING THAT AS A GAUGE AND AGAIN YOU COULD DO IT LIKE BUSINESS LICENSE THIS IS WHERE YOU SET OUT OVER JUST THE FIVE YEAR AND LET IT SUNSET THEN YOU GAIN THE BENEFIT OF THE HONOR SO YEAH AND YOU GOT TO REMEMBER ALSO WITH THESE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS YOU'RE GOING TO BE GENERATING ECONOMIC ACTIVITY THAT ALSO GENERATES TAX REVENUE SO THERE IS THAT BENEFIT DOES NOT CALCULATED HERE SO IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO LEAVE THAT IS IS I MEAN BECAUSE AGAIN I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVE EXCEPT YOU MENTIONED PROPERTY TAX I DON'T KNOW CAUSE WE'RE WE'RE INCENTIVIZED THERE SO WHAT ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE COULD BE GIVEN OF WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SCALED HERE THE BUSINESS LICENSE CHRIS THIS IS SMALL NUMBERS IN MY ARE THEY SO SMALL IT'S JUST BASED OFF OF THE DENTAL OFFICE OFF THE WALL BUT THIS IS NOT ON THE ENTIRE 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF OTHER BUSINESS.

THAT'S CORRECT THAT THOSE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES SINCE THIS APPLICATION BOTH THE DEVELOPER AND OPERATOR OF THE GENERAL OFFICE THAT'S COMBINED HERE BUT OTHER BUSINESSES THAT LOCATE THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY APPLY SEPARATELY FOR THOSE DOZENS OF THOSE BUT THEY COULD APPLY THEY COULD YES. SO THEIR COSTS PER INFUSION RELATED TO OFFSET AS WELL AS THEIR ONGOING BUSINESS LICENSE FEES THE TENANTS RIGHT. SO TECHNICALLY WE BE DOING TWO GRANTS OR EIGHT GRANTS FOR THE EXACT SAME 15,000 I MEAN 1500 SQUARE FEET POTENTIALLY NOT FROM CAPACITY FEES. NO, NO, NO BUT THE OTHER STUFF. RIGHT RIGHT.

SO BECAUSE ABLE TO DO THAT THIS ISN'T THE END OF NO THE EASIER IF WE'RE THERE TO HELP THE TENANTS MOVE INTO THOSE EMPTY SPACES WE'RE HELPING THE OWNER THE GUY THAT BUILT THEM TOO BECAUSE THE SOONER HE GETS THEM OUTFITTED AND PEOPLE IN THEM HIS REVENUE STARTS COMING IN. SO HE DOESN'T NEED AS MUCH HELP AS LONG AS THEY FIT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO RATE AND BUILD OUT THERE AND THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE. SO YEAH I MEAN THAT'S I LIKE THAT THAT'S WAY FOR GOING BACK TO COUNCILMAN FRAZIER'S QUESTION WHAT ELSE MAY BE THERE

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FOR ME THAT WAS MORE OF A HYPOTHETICAL IN THE SENSE OF LIKE I THINK HOW IT'S LAID OUT AS WE HAVE THIS PRESENTED FOR IS FINE. I WAS MORE SO PRESENT IN THAT TO THOSE WHO WERE QUESTIONING IT LIKE WHAT ELSE COULD BE DONE I MEAN I THOUGHT OUTSIDE AND SAYING LIKE WE'LL WE'LL PAY FOR YOU TO BUILD A PROJECT I THINK LIKE WHAT'S BEING OFFERED HERE KNOWING THAT THIS ISN'T LIKE A NONPROFIT ENTITY THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND RECOUP THOSE RECOUP THAT REVENUE ONCE THEY'RE IN OPERATION. THIS IS A WIN WIN FOR THEM TOO IN THE SENSE THAT WE'RE TAKING SOMETHING OFF OF THEIR THEY WERE PLANNING TO DO BUT THEY ARE HERE TO MONEY AS WELL AND SO WE DON'T NEED TO OVEREXTEND WHAT WE'RE INCENTIVIZING HERE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PROFITING IN A LONG TERM OUTSIDE OF YOU KNOW, BUSINESS LICENSE FEES BUT THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO BE THE GENERAL PROVIDERS OF OF THEIR TO GO BACK TO THAT STATEMENT AND SOME OF THE OTHERS AND NOT DELAY NOT TO KEEP DRAGGING ON THE CONVERSATION BUT IF THE IMPACT FEES ARE SOMETHING THAT IS STILL QUESTIONABLE FOR COUNCIL THE PROPERTY TAXES IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD I THINK THAT'S MORE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDED IN AND NOT NECESSARILY A BAD PRECEDENT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT SETTING UNLESS YOU LOOK AT WHAT TERRY COMMENTED ABOUT CAPPING THAT'S STILL A WORRY.

THE ONE THING ABOUT DOING PROPERTY TAXES OVER THE IMPACT FEES IS THAT WOULD ALLOW ALL THE FEES THAT ARE IN HERE REALLY TO BE ONES THAT ARE SET COUNCIL BUSINESS LICENSE PERMITS, THE PROPERTY TAXES THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CONTROL.

WHAT THOSE LEVELS ARE SET SO IF YOU STICK WITH THAT THAT WOULD WORK.

BUT IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT CHRIS HAS OUTLINED IN GOING FORWARD WITH THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN KEEP IN MIND AND IN THE BACK POCKET AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

OTHER OPTIONS FOR OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS WELL LET ME BE CLEAR SINCE I'VE ASKED ALL THESE QUESTIONS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. I'M NOT ANTI IMPACT THE REIMBURSEMENT. I'M SAYING THAT I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE IT CAME FROM, HOW WE WERE GOING TO PAY FOR IT, WHERE DID IT IN ALL THESE THINGS.

SO I DON'T KNOW I'M OPEN MINDED TO GO WITH IT BUT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE PROBABLY TO PULL IN BACK FEES TO KEEP CLEANER BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT GET IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE CONSTANTLY REIMBURSING FOR REVENUE THAT DOESN'T COME TO OUR COFFERS AND IF YOU ALL PASS FIRST READING WITH THE STIPULATION THAT WE INCLUDED ANALYSIS ON FACTORING IN PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE OUT YEARS FOR FIVE YEARS I CAN COME BACK A SECOND READING WITH UPDATED FIGURES FIGURES YOU YOU ARE A PERSON FINALLY WHAT IS THE WAY TO I DIDN'T HEAR YOU AS I PERSONALLY I'M FINE IT THE WAY IT IS BECAUSE THE THE THE SET UP IT IS 50% IF I'M READING IT CORRECT UP TO 50% SO IT DOES NOT EARMARK LIKE WE'RE GOING PAY 100% OR WE'RE GOING TO PAY WHATEVER DOLLAR AMOUNT IT SAYS UP TO. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ALREADY A DISCRETIONARY CLAUSE THERE BECAUSE OF THAT WORDING BUT THE NEEDS OF A PERSON COME IN WITH $1,000,000 PROJECT AS OPPOSED TO ONE WHO'S COME IN WITH A $5 MILLION PROJECT.

IT'S DOING THE SAME THING AS IT'S GIVING THEM A AN INCENTIVE UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

SO BUDGET TO BUDGET WISE IT STILL IS DOING THE BENEFIT OF OF THAT PERCENTAGE IT SOUNDS I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO LIKE BECOME LIKE A STICKLER MORESO TO GET OURSELVES LOCKED INTO AN EXACT AMOUNT. I THINK HAVING THAT DISCRETIONARY ABILITY GIVES WAY MORE MORE ROOM TO THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS THE WAY THAT I PERCEIVE THAT I COULD YEAH AND I, I AGREE WITH OF THAT THE THE ONLY THING THAT IT'S A LITTLE SPOOKY TO ME PERSONALLY IS SOMEBODY COMES IN THEY WANT TO DO A $20 MILLION PROJECT AND THEIR IMPACT ARE $800,000.

WE'RE GOING TO WRITE THEM A $100,000 BUT IT SAYS UP TO SO YOU COULD SAY WELL IT'S THAT AMOUNT THAT'S WHAT HE SAID AND MAYBE WE'LL DO BUT MAYBE DO HIM DO I JUST SEE LIKE DOING A CAP OR GOING TO SPECIFIC GET THIS LOCKED INTO SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TO LIKE YOU KNOW BACK AWAY FROM WHEREAS IF YOU LEAVE IT NOT NECESSARILY AS AMBIGUOUS AS IT

[03:05:03]

IS BUT REALLY IF YOU LEAVE IT THAT WAY WHOEVER IS MAKING THAT DECISION WHETHER IT'S COUNCIL OR WHOMEVER CAN SAY WELL THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WILL DO THAT IT'S UP TO 50, WE'LL DO 10% OR WE'LL DO 20% BECAUSE THE NEEDS OF A PROJECT NOT BE AS AS BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY TO WARRANT GETTING THE FOR 50%. SO I THINK LOOKING AT IT A CASE BY CASE BASIS IS GOING TO BE BETTER. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS JUST TO RETAIN THE DISCRETIONARY ASPECT OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AND LOOK AT THINGS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND RECOGNIZE THAT.

SO I WHAT I'M HEARING PERSONALLY AND WHERE I LIVE WHERE WE VOTE FINE WITH IT EITHER WAY BUT I PERSONALLY WOULD RATHER NOT SEE IMPACT FEES AS PART OF OUR PACKAGE OR THE ENTITIES THAT OPEN TO COME UP WITH SOME OTHER REPLACE IT. OKAY.

YEAH SO I WOULD SAY SAYING IF WE COULD IF COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THE WAY YOU'VE GOT IT AND JUST SAY RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW I COULD TELL YOU YOU'RE NOT EXTREMELY OVERLY ENTHUSED ABOUT PUTTING THAT PUTTING OUR SELF AND OUR TOWN IN THAT I IF I'M READING YOU CORRECTLY OR YEAH SO I WAS REALLY LOOKING AT THIS FROM WHAT ARE THE REVENUES THAT THESE PROJECTS ARE GENERATING AND WHAT CAN THE GROUND BE BASED ON? AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO BE PUT IN A POSITION WHERE WE WOULD BE PULLING FROM OTHER REVENUE.

SOURCES SAY AND I COULD SEE US PUTTING THERE, YOU KNOW, OKAY. SO SO WELL LET ME ASK A FINAL QUESTION SO WE MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE FIRST READING AND THEN STAFF WILL COME BACK WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN. IS THAT WHAT HEARING FOR THE ONE ITEM THE ONE ITEM THE IMPACT THE ITEM OR SHOULD WE JUST EXCLUDE THAT WE NEEDED TO REPLACE THE FIRST READING WITH HOW SHOULD WE DO THAT? OR YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WHAT CHRIS PRESENTED ABSENT THE IMPACT FEE ON READING WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT CHRIS AT SECOND READING MAY HAVE SOME OTHER MECHANISM OR SOME OTHER MEANS TO REPLACE THAT $23,000 WHICH WOULD WHICH WOULD NOT BE A MATERIAL CHANGE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND YOU COULD THEN GO FORWARD IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. ABSOLUTELY OR WOULD IT BE SIMPLER IF WE JUST APPROVE IT ON THE FIRST READING AND AND INSTRUCT TO ALTER IT IS JUST GOING TO GO BACK IT'LL IS BEYOND FOLKS AND THEN YOU WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO APPROVE IT WITH IT REMOVE SO AT LEAST HE CAN RELAY THAT TO THE DEVELOPER THAT IT'S A THAT IT'S REMOVED. YES ALL RIGHT THE WALL STREET RIGHT THAT THAT THE MOTION SHOULD READ REMOVE THE MOTION SHOULD BE AND MAKE A MOTION TO FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON SOLOMON PROPERTY HOLDINGS INC UTILIZING THE FINANCIAL DATA PRESENTED BY FAF WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE 23,000 PLUS CHANGE IN ECONOMIC MP ECONOMIC IMPACT FEE ABATEMENT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT AT SECOND READING $3,000 MAY BE CAPTURED THROUGH SOME OTHER MECHANISM IF YOU MAKE IT ANY ASSIGNEE LET ME LET ME TAKE IT LET ME TAKE LET ME TAKE A STAB AT THIS. FRED WANTS TO TAKE A STAB YOU DO GOOD A WHILE AGO A GREAT HASH OR AT LEAST I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER ENTER INTO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN BLUFFTON AND SOLOMON PROPERTY HOLDINGS LLC WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE IMPACT FEE AS LISTED ON WHATEVER EXHIBIT THAT IS AN EXHIBIT NUMBER BY CHANCE I DON'T KNOW IS THERE WITHIN THE PRESENTATION WITHIN THE PRESENT PRESENTATION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING STAFF WILL COME BACK WITH AN ALTERNATIVE SOURCE TO REPLACE IT BY THE NEXT MEETING HAVE COMPLETED THIS YOU KNOW I'M IN FAVOR MY NAME NAY SO THREE EYES AND ONE DAY

[03:10:01]

TOGETHER OKAY GOT ME ALL SINGLED OUT THERE. OKAY.

[XII. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

MOVING ON TO THE AGENDA ITEMS JUST ANYBODY WANT TO PULL ANYTHING OFF WHO IS AN AGENDA? LOOK, DO I TO READ ALL THIS? YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR GAZETTE AGENDA TO BE APPROVED IN A MOTION? NO. OKAY I GO OKAY.

I WANT YOU EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTION. WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.

[XIII. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

OH YEAH IT'S FOR DISCUSSION RELATING TO THE PROPOSED CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO SOUTH CAROLINA OF INFORMATION ACT 30, DASH FOUR, DASH 70 A THROUGH NO CHARGE MAKE THAT MOTION I'LL SECOND I'M CERTAIN

[XIV.ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION]

KNOW ABOUT TAKING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BUT WE DO HAVE A MOTION WAS AGREED THAT I MOVED TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER COORDINATION WITH THE LEGAL COUNSEL TO FINALIZE THE IT'S ACCUSED THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL TO PARTNER IN THE POTENTIAL PURCHASE OF PROPERTY EXCHANGE PROPERTY PURCHASE OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. I'LL SECOND ANY QUESTIONS ALL IN FAVOR SAY I AND I SAID LET ME HAVE THAT LITTLE PROMOTION ADJOURN SECOND OR

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.