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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY.
[1. Call to Order]
FIRST MEETING OF THE NEW YEAR FOR THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, JANUARY 11TH.[2. Adoption of the Agenda]
CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? WE CAN, UH, SUBMIT IT OR, UH, APPROVE IT AS A, UH, SUBMITTED MOVE.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[3. Approval of the Minutes]
DELETIONS, OR CORRECTIONS OF THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 13TH AND NOVEMBER 9TH? TWO.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[4. Appearance by Citizens]
BY CITIZENS.KIMBERLY, DO WE HAVE CITIZENS WHO WISH TO SPEAK THIS MORNING? WE DO.
FAL, DAN LEE, DAVID SCHWEIGER.
HOPE YOU'RE ALL ENJOYING THIS, UH, NORTHERN WEATHER
UM, MY NAME IS, UH, DAVE SCHWEIGER.
I LIVE AT, UH, ONE 40 CHICANO STREET IN NORTH FOREST BEACH, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND JUST A FEW OBSERVATIONS I'D LIKE TO SHARE.
UM, WE, I, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO REVIEW YOUR LAST, UM, MATERIALS THAT YOU POSTED AND YOU POSED A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, UM, THERE.
AND I JUST WANNA START OFF WITH THAT.
ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO, I MOVED FROM COLUMBIA, SOUTH CAROLINA, WHERE I LIVED DOWN HERE.
UM, AND WE PICKED, UH, LIVING IN NORTH FOREST BEACH AND NOT IN A GATED COMMUNITY FOR A REASON.
WE LOVE THE FEEL OF THE PLACE.
UH, IT WAS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, AND WE INVESTED, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT OF MONEY, UH, IN BUILDING, UM, A SMALL BUT REALLY NICE HOME THERE.
AND, UM, WE'VE COME TO, UH, UNDER EXPERIENCE OVER THE LAST 10, 12 YEARS HOW THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CHANGING, UM, AND NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE BETTER.
UH, WHEN I WENT IN THERE, I LOOKED AT WHAT THE ZONING WAS LIKE.
AND IT WAS RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY.
UH, AND THEN I READ WHAT THAT REALLY MEANT.
IT WAS A PLACE WHERE WE COULD LIVE PEACEFULLY WHERE IT WAS QUIET, UM, AND ANY OF THE STANDARDS THAT ANYONE WOULD WANT TO LIVE.
AND IT'S NOTHING NEW TO ANY OF YOU.
UM, PROBABLY REPEATING WHAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO YOU, UH, ABOUT HOW, UH, THE SHORT TERM RENTALS HAVE HAD A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THAT.
UM, ON CHICANA STREET IN PARTICULAR, UH, THEY HAVE PUT UP TWO, WHAT WE'LL CALL BIG BOX HOUSES, UM, WITH THE SHEER PURPOSE OF RENTAL.
UH, NOBODY LIVES IN IT, UH, ALL YEAR ROUND.
UM, AND I THINK THAT DEFIES WHAT THE INTENT WAS OF LIVING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I'VE, OVER THE TIME, TRIED TO RECONCILE MY MIND, UH, HOW RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS TURNED INTO VRBO.
UM, THAT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE ZONING.
AND THE ZONING HASN'T CHANGED FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN.
AND I WAS HERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS A HOUSE, DOUBLE HOUSE BEING BUILT ON HERON, EXCUSE ME.
AND, UH, WE CAME IN HERE AND WE TALK AND, UH, THEY MADE CHANGES TO NOT ALLOW HERON TO TURN INTO, UH, A MINI HOTEL.
AND NOW WE'RE SEEING THAT INSTEAD OF MAYBE WE'RE PUTTING TWO OF THESE TOGETHER, WE'RE STUFFING, UH, TONS AND TONS OF BEDROOMS INTO THESE BIG BOXES.
IN FACT, UM, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO LIVES ACROSS THE STREET WILL SPEAK TO YOU IN A MOMENT.
AND, UM, THEY'VE PUT UP, UH, THESE TWO HO HOMES.
EACH HAS SEVEN BEDROOMS. THAT'S 14 BEDROOMS, UM, ON WHAT WAS ONCE ONE LOT, BUT JUST BARELY ABLE TO PUT ON FOR TWO LOTS.
THAT IS PROBABLY, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW MANY CARS, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW YOU PARK 14 CARS IN THERE.
UM, AND THEN IF YOU PROBABLY FIGURE PEOPLE COMING WITH FAMILY, BUT YOU PROBABLY AT LEAST MAYBE 28 PEOPLE THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN ARE THERE.
WE'VE GOT CARS THAT ARE PARKING ON.
UM, CAN I JUST HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE PLEASE? NO, NOT, I'M SORRY.
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I LIVE IN PALMETTO DUNES AS WELL AS OWNED SOME SHORT-TERM SLASH LONG-TERM VACATION RENTALS.
UM, MY QUESTIONS I REALLY HAVE IS WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT HOUSING.
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AND MY REAL QUESTION IS, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE SECOND HOMEOWNERS WHO DO RETREATS, WHO DO FAMILY REUNIONS.THEIR USAGE OF THAT HOUSE IS NO DIFFERENT THAN A VOLUME-WISE, OCCUPANCY WISE THAN A WHAT YOU'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
WE KEEP ATTACKING ONE AREA, AND EVEN WHEN WE GO AND WE LOOK AT YOUR DASHBOARDS AND EVERYTHING, THE COMPLAINTS WE'RE NOT THERE.
I THINK WE NEED TO REVAMP HOW WE'RE DOING IT AND LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE AND WHAT WE'LL DO IN THE FUTURE, GRANDFATHER, WHAT'S THERE.
AND IN THE FUTURE, START LOOKING AT HOW WE ARE ALLOWING THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS IN A HOUSE BUT NOT GOING AFTER, BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT A, A PERSON WHO'S AT THEIR SECOND HOME AND DOESN'T RENT, WHO'S GOT A COMPLAINT ABOUT NOISE, BUT IT'S NOT A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
YOU'RE NOT DOING ANY, ANYTHING ABOUT A PERSON WHO DOES EITHER A RELIGIOUS OR A CORPORATE RETREAT IN A NON-REAL YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT.
SO THIS IS VERY SHORTSIGHTED THAT WE'RE ONLY GOING AFTER WHAT WE CONSIDER SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
AND EVEN A LONG-TERM RENTAL COULD WIND UP IN A SITUATION WHERE IT'S OVERCROWDED.
SO I THINK YOU'RE REALLY HONING IN THE WRONG WAY.
I THINK YOU NEED TO BE LOOKING AT FUTURE BUILDS AND MAKING SURE YOU LIMIT THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT JUST, I KNOW YOU'RE DOING THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE.
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE OCCUPANCY AT THE TIME YOU'RE GIVING THE BUILDING PERMIT, NOT THREE YEARS AFTER.
I THINK YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT THERE.
AND I THINK IT'S ALSO PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY HAD.
AND WHEN YOU START CHANGING OCCUPANCY, THEY CAN'T AFFORD WHAT THEY HAVE.
AND THERE'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT GOES INTO THE WHOLE ECONOMY HERE BY PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE HOUSE THAT THEY HAVE BUILT TODAY, OR CONDO THEY HAVE BUILT TODAY, AND HAVE PEOPLE STAY IN IT AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMY HERE, NOT, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS AFTER YOU GET TO THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS, 'CAUSE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MELISSA, ROBIN.
I'M A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNER.
I'M ALSO ON THE BOARD OF THE HILTON HEAD VACATION RENTAL ASSOCIATION.
UM, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THE PROCESS, UH, TYPICALLY PUBLIC, UH, MEETINGS THAT I'VE GONE TO, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A DIALOGUE.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, I GUESS, UM, A COUPLE POINTS THAT I WOULD MAKE.
UM, I'M PLEASED TO KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE THE FORMATION OF A PLANNING COMMITTEE TO TAKE THE ORDINANCE TO THE NEXT PHASE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE H-H-V-R-A HAVE A SEAT ON THAT BOARD AND THAT, UM, YOU WOULD CONSIDER SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE LESS FAMILIAR TO TOWN GOVERNMENT, LIKE MYSELF.
UH, OUR, OUR BOARD IS OUR ASSOCIATION, I SHOULD SAY, IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE'RE THE COLLECTIVE VOICE OF THE ENTIRE ISLAND.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL ISSUES, WHETHER THEY BE ECONOMIC IMPACTS TO NEIGHBORHOODS, ALL OF THAT.
UM, AND I DO BELIEVE, UH, OPEN AND TRANSPARENT PLANNING PROCESS, UH, WILL BENEFIT EVERYBODY TO HAVE BETTER, UM, YOU KNOW, REGULATIONS FOR ALL.
UM, I WOULD ALSO SAY IS MY SECOND POINT THAT, UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS A LONG TIME, ONE SIZE DOESN'T FIT ALL.
YOU KNOW WHAT WORKS FOR, LET'S SAY A TWO BEDROOM, UM, FILL LIKE MINE ON OCEAN LANE IS GONNA BE VERY DIFFERENT THAN SOMEBODY WHO, UH, HAS A HOUSE THAT MAYBE IS GEARED TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, GOLF WEEKENDS OF, YOU KNOW, EIGHT SINGLE MEN THAT, YOU KNOW IN THEIR SIXTIES.
THEY DON'T WANNA SHARE A BEDROOM WITH SOMEBODY THEY DON'T KNOW THAT WELL.
SO I, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT ISLAND HAS ROOM FOR ALL OF THIS.
UM, HILTON HEAD IS DEMONSTRATED THROUGH DECADES OF SOME REALLY CAREFUL, THOUGHTFUL PLANNING, WHICH IS WHAT DREW ME TO, TO THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING, UM, THE PROCESS AS IT UNFOLDS.
MY COMMENTS ARE REGARDING THE CREATION OF A SHORT-TERM ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I THINK THE WORK IS IMPORTANT, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU NEED AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO GET THE WORK DONE.
THERE ARE TWO WORK STREAMS REGARDING SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
THE FIRST IS TO ANALYZE THE DATA FROM THE PAST YEAR.
I KNOW A LOT OF WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE IN THIS AREA TO CONSOLIDATE AND DISPLAY
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THE INFORMATION WITH MAPPING OF LOCATIONS, DASHBOARDS, AND VENDOR REPORTS.I RECOMMEND THAT STAFF PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE RESULTS AND PROVIDE ANY RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCES, WHICH ARE VERY OPERATIONAL IN NATURE.
THIS COULD BE PRESENTED TO THE PPC.
THE SECOND AND MORE IMPORTANT WORK IS THE STRATEGY REGARDING WHERE AND HOW SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE USED WITHIN COMMUNITIES.
STR IS ALREADY DISCUSSED IN THE TRENDS AND ASSESSMENT REPORT YOU ARE PRESENTING TODAY.
AND S STR R SHOULD BE PART OF DISTRICT PLANNING.
THIS WORK SHOULD BE INCLUDED ALREADY IN THE CONSULTANT LED PROCESS YOU HAVE BEEN EMBARKING ON THROUGH THE LMO AND DISTRICT PLANNING PROCESS.
THIS WAY YOU'LL HAVE AN INDEPENDENT VIEW AS YOU DISCUSS THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
FEEDBACK FROM STR BUSINESSES AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES ALONG WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS WOULD THEN BE HEARD THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS AS THIS WORK MOVES ALONG.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
I RESIDE AT TWO 19 CORD PARKWAY.
I'D LIKE TO THANK THOSE OF YOU ON THE BOARD THAT HAVE TAKEN ME UP ON MY OFFER SEVERAL TIMES.
I'VE EMAILED TO COME TO MY HOME AND LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY THIS HICKORY LANE, SHEL MIDDEN LANE DEBAUCHERY, AS I LIKE TO CALL IT.
TWO YEARS AGO THEY STARTED TWO AND A HALF NOW WITH A CLEAR CUT.
THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVESTING IN THIS PROPERTY, WHICH WE ALL KNOW, YOU CANNOT DO A CLEAR CUT ON THIS ISLAND YET.
THEY BROUGHT THE MACHINE THERE AND SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW WE WEREN'T ALLOWED.
THEY CONSISTENTLY ASKED FOR FORGIVENESS INSTEAD OF PERMISSION.
DUG FOUNDATIONS, DUG POOLS, ALL WITHOUT PERMISSION, ALL WITHOUT PERMITS, STOP WORK ORDERS NUMEROUS TIMES, ALL HOPE, AND THEY WOULDN'T GET CAUGHT BY THE CONCERNED CITIZENS THAT RESIDE AND LIVE IN THAT SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT IS ALREADY THERE IS 18 HICKORY LANE, WHICH IS AT LEAST SEVEN, IF NOT EIGHT BEDROOMS, DUBBED THE HICKORY HOTEL BY THE BUILDER HIMSELF.
AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS FIVE MORE, SEVEN TO EIGHT BEDROOM HOMES ON POSTAGE STAMPS WITH POOLS.
NOW, I ASK YOU, THERE ARE ALREADY TWO HOMES THAT SHARE SHEL MID AND LANE.
YOU ARE LOOKING TO PACK IN CONSERVATIVELY AND ADDITIONAL 120 PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE WEEK.
FORGET THE NOISE, FORGET THE TRASH, FORGET THE FLOODING, FORGET ALL OF THAT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SAFETY OF WHAT THAT MEANS ON A STREET THAT IS NO LONGER THAN FROM THAT BOARD TO THAT END OF THE BUILDING.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE CARS WHIPPING UP AND DOWN HERE.
WHEN DOES THE TRAGEDY HAPPEN? WHEN YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY, YOU HAVE BEEN ELECTED, YOU HAVE WORKED FOR THIS TOWN.
YOU ARE BEING PAID BY THIS, THE TOWN'S PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SAFETY AND THE INTEGRITY OF THIS ISLAND, THE SAFETY OF ITS CITIZENS.
AND I ASSURE YOU, IF YOU DO NOT REDUCE THIS PARKING, AND IF YOU DO NOT REDUCE THE FAR AND HOW BIG THESE STRUCTURES CAN BUILD AND DON'T GRANDFATHER THESE PEOPLE IN WHO HAVE NOT SUBMITTED PLANS AND DON'T TAKE TWO MORE YEARS FOR THIS PROCESS TO HAPPEN.
YOU CAN'T HAVE SIGNS TALL, YOU CAN'T HAVE TREES CUT DOWN YET.
YOU WANNA PUT AN ADDITIONAL SIX JA ENORMOUS HOMES ON POSTAGE STAMPS OF PROPERTY AND ALLOW THESE VEHICLES TO COME DOWN.
SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET HARMED.
SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET KILLED.
AND WHEN IT DOES, YOU CAN SAY, GEE, I WISH I WOULD HAVE, I WISH WE WOULD'VE DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
IT MAY NOT BE THE MOST POPULAR THING, BUT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.
I AM PLEADING WITH YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING HERE AND REDUCE THIS.
YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION YOU HAVE, NOT THE ONE YOU WANNA HAVE.
I LIVE ON CHICANA STREET, RIGHT OFF SPUR ROAD, THAT'S CALLED RS 2 7 2 9.
UM, UH, I'M GONNA ECHO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD, SO I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO REDUNDANT.
BUT, UM, UH, WHEN I MOVED IN 1998, THERE WERE FOUR, THREE BEDROOM HOMES.
THAT'S WHY WE SELECTED NORTH BORIS BEACH.
WE HAVE BEEN COMING FOR 25 YEARS AS A, UH, TIMESHARE RESIDENT.
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WAS WONDERFUL.UH, AND AND IN PROXIMITY TO THE BEACH AS WELL AS TO KIG WAS FANTASTIC.
WE NOW HAVE FOUR YEARS AGO, TWO LARGE RENTAL BOXES.
THAT'S ALL THEY ARE, UM, THAT ARE ROUGHLY A HUNDRED FEET FROM MY BACK DOOR.
UM, AND WE'VE NOW ADDED BEYOND THE 12 BEDROOMS THAT WE USED TO HAVE.
WE NOW HAVE 14 MORE BEDROOMS AND THE CARS THAT COME WITH IT AND THE TRAFFIC THAN WITH IT.
I'VE HAD TO PUT, UM, UH, SLOW DOWN SIGNS ON MY BACK, BACK DOOR AS WELL AS ON THE FRONT DOOR BECAUSE OF THE ALL THE CARS COMING BACK AND FORTH.
THEY'RE 30 FOOT FROM MY BACK DOOR.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, WHICH I'VE ALSO FILLED OUT A SURVEY SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, AND HOPE WE GET THE, UH, THE RESULT OF THAT SURVEY AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
UM, THE, THE WALK TO COLIGNY WAS APPROXIMATELY, OH, 10, 15 MINUTES.
YOU'VE, YOU MET JOGGERS AND PEDESTRIANS.
NOW WE HAVE ELECTRIC BIKES, WE HAVE SKATEBOARDS, WE HAVE ELECTRIC SKATEBOARDS.
IT YOU TAKE YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HAND, UH, TO, TO GO THERE.
HAVING SAID THAT, UM, IT FEELS LIKE AS A RESIDENT, WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL OVER WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THE CONTRACTORS CAN COME IN AND PUT BIG BOX RENTALS ANYWHERE THEY WANT.
UH, AND WE HAVE NO SAY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEING REDUCED TO BIG BOXES.
AND IT'S NOT THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT WAS THAT WE CAME HERE 28 YEARS AGO TO, TO LOOK AT, UM, OUR SAFETY, THE CHARACTER, THE SERENITY IS ALL GONE TO HELL IN THE HAND BASKET.
AND I HOPE YOU REVIEW YOUR RULES AND STOP THE DETERIORATION AND DESTRUCTION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
[5.a. Presentation of Land Management Ordinance Contract and Project Schedule - Missy Luick, Director of Planning]
TO A LARGE DEGREE, THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING TODAY DEAL WITH MANY OF THOSE COMMENTS THAT WERE JUST MADE.UH, THE FIRST ITEM OF UNFINISHED BUSINESS IS A PRESENTATION OF LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, CONTRACT AND PROJECT SCHEDULE.
MISSY LE, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, I, I WILL ADD THAT, UM, THE TOWN HAS, UH, PRESENTED AN RFP TO CONSULTANTS TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS BACK IN SEPTEMBER AS, AND THE STAFF HAS BEEN INTERVIEWING, SCORING THE CANDIDATES.
AND, UH, MISSY WILL HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY.
UM, THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION HAS TO DO WITH THE SCOPE AND SCHEDULE, AND WE ALSO HAVE SOMETHING CALLED QUICK FIXES THAT I THINK ARE IN THE MINDS OF MANY PEOPLE.
MISSY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME YOU'VE TAKEN TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION.
YEAH, IT'S ALMOST, MAY I JUST AS A POINT OF INFORMATION FOR THOSE PLEASE, WHO MADE COMMENTS, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT TO LOAD, UH, A NUMBER OF YOU MENTIONED YOU WERE HOPING THAT THERE WOULD BE OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMENTS AFTER PRESENTATION.
THAT IS TYPICALLY THE CASE THAT THERE, IT'S OPENED BACK UP FOR COMMENTS AFTER THE PRESENTATION, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE.
UH, WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD.
UM, I AM REALLY EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT, UM, OUR LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE CONTRACT AND PROJECT SCHEDULE, UM, AND HAVE SOME EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE.
UM, BUT FIRST I WANT TO, UM, JUST KIND OF GET EVERYONE UP TO SPEED ON, ON THIS PROJECT THAT WE'VE WORKED, BEEN WORKING ON FOR, UM, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.
UM, AND WE HAVE HAD A PLAN IN PLACE, UM, THE LMO AMENDMENT PLAN TO INCORPORATE, UH, POLICY CHANGES TO ADDRESS, UM, BASICALLY OUR ENTIRE, UM, LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, THE, THE BIG BINDER, UH, BEHIND ME, UM, TO BRING IT INTO CONFORMANCE WITH, UH, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR PLAN, UM, AND ALSO TO BRING IT INTO CONFORMANCE WITH THE DISTRICT PLANS, UH, THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON.
AND, UM, WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS ALONG THE WAY.
SO, UM, HIGHLIGHTED UP ON THE SCREEN ARE, ARE SEVERAL PHASES OF LMO AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED AND ADOPTED BY TOWN COUNCIL IN 2023.
UM, AND, AND WE'RE CONTINUING THAT, THAT PROCESS.
UM, WE ALSO RELEASED AN RFQ IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
AND, UM, WE'RE SEEKING FIRMS TO HELP US WITH THE OVERHAUL OF THE CODE.
SO THE TOTAL REWRITE OF THE CODE TO BRING IT MORE INTO CONFORMANCE WITH THE DIRECTION THAT
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OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TAKING US AS A COMMUNITY.AND, UM, WE IDENTIFIED IN THAT SCOPE FOR, UH, SEEKING CONSULTANTS TO HELP US, UM, YOU KNOW, SIX KEY ASPECTS AND, AND THE NUMBER ONE WAS THE ALIGNMENT WITH THOSE PLANS.
UM, UH, RESEARCH AND INPUT FROM FROM TOWN STAFF, FROM STAKEHOLDERS, FROM CONSULTANTS, FROM BEST PRACTICES, UH, FROM ACROSS, FROM LEARNING FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES AND, AND HOW THEY WRITE THEIR CODES AND WHAT'S WORKING.
UM, AND THEN WORKING ON DRAFTING THOSE AMENDMENTS.
SO CODE WRITING, OF COURSE, IS A BIG PART OF THIS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE WRITING INNOVATIVE CODE, UM, THAT CAN HANDLE THE TOPICS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US, SUCH AS STORMWATER AND OUR SUBDIVISION.
WE JUST HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, TRANSPORTATION, HOW WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS HOUSING AND, AND MORE SO IT, IT INCLUDES ALL TOPICS, UM, NOT JUST THOSE THAT ARE IN THE SHORT LIST.
AND THEN HOW WE'RE GONNA ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN THOSE AMENDMENTS.
SO WHAT'S THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THESE CODE CHANGES ARE, WHAT THEY MEAN, AND HOW THEY AFFECT REAL PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THAT CODE DRAFTING A ZONING AMENDMENT, A ZONING MAP WILL BE CREATED.
AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH AN ADOPTION PROCESS AT THE END.
UM, AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO, UM, TALK ABOUT OUR, UM, CURRENT PREFERRED CONSULTANT, UM, CODE STUDIO.
WE, WE HAVE JUST, UH, SIGNED THE CONTRACT, UM, OURSELVES HERE AND HAVE SENT IT OVER TO THE VENDOR, UH, FOR THEIR COUNTER SIGNER SIGNATURE.
SO, UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO, UM, TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
AND, UM, AND I'M GONNA LET THEM GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR BACKGROUND, UM, IN JUST A SECOND.
UM, 'CAUSE THEY'RE ON THE CALL.
UH, BUT THE, THE TEAM I FEEL LIKE GIVES US, UH, THE TEAM THAT WE NEED FOR WE AS STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE TO FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT FIRM TO HELP US GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND MAKE SURE THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE A CODE THAT MEETS OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT SPEAKS TO WHERE WE'RE HEADED AS A COMMUNITY, AND, UM, THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO, TO GET THAT DONE.
UM, THE, AND WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR CONSULTANTS AND REVIEWING, UH, THE FIRMS THAT APPLIED, UM, AND GOING THROUGH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, WE WERE REALLY LOOKING TO THE CORE VALUES, UM, THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PLAN.
AND ONE OF THOSE IS EXCELLENCE.
AND SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR A FIRM THAT HAS THAT EXPERIENCE THAT WE COULD PULL FROM TO FIND BEST IN CLASS CODE WRITING EXPERIENCE.
UM, AND A CODE STUDIO WILL, WILL GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, BUT THEY HAVE WORKED IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THEY'VE WORKED IN CHARLESTON, THEY'VE WORKED IN GREENVILLE, AND HELPED WITH, UM, SOME ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS AND A ZONING ORDINANCE IN, IN BOTH OF THOSE COMMUNITIES.
THEY'VE WORKED EXTENSIVELY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, BUT SOME, SOME COMMUNITIES THAT I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT ARE BOTH RESORT COMMUNITIES AND COASTAL COMMUNITIES.
UM, THEY'VE WORKED IN ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA, BOZEMAN, MONTANA, HONOLULU, UM, JACKSON, WYOMING, OGDEN CITY, UTAH, STEAMBOAT SPRINGS, COLORADO.
UM, AND THEN IN ON THE COAST, THEY'VE WORKED IN SEVERAL COMMUNITIES IN LOUISIANA, CALIFORNIA, TEXAS, RHODE ISLAND, UM, AND VIRGINIA BEACH.
THEY WROTE AN OCEAN FRONT FORM-BASED CODES.
SO THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE.
I'M GONNA LET THEM, UM, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THEIR, UM, INVOLVEMENT IN CODE WRITING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
AND, UM, AND WE HAVE THE TWO PROJECT LEADS HERE, UM, THAT I'LL INTRODUCE YOU TO, UM, COLIN SCHARF AND, AND CHRISTIE DOTSON ARE ON THE CALL.
AND, UM, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO DO A BRIEF INTRODUCTION OF, OF BOTH YOURSELVES AND, AND, UM, EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FIRM.
UH, UH, MY NAME, MY NAME IS COLIN STAFF CO-FOUNDER OF CODE STUDIO.
CO STUDIO HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE, UH, 2006.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON ZONING AND PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, UH, FOR 17 YEARS NOW, 18 YEARS BEFORE, BEFORE THAT, UM, I USED TO, I USED TO WORK FOR A COMPANY CALLED DUNCAN ASSOCIATES, UM, UM, WHICH IS ANOTHER CODE WRITING FIRM.
SO GRADUATED COLLEGE IN ABOUT, UM, UM, TWO, 2002, WORKED AT DUNCAN ASSOCIATES AND, UM, ASSOCIATES, UH, ORIGINALLY WORKED, UM, ON YOUR CODE BACK THEN.
SO I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF WORK ON THAT CODE BACK IN 2002.
I THINK I WORKED ON SOME OF THE GRAPHICS, UM, WE'RE, THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.
BUT, UM, CHRISTIE HERE WITH ME.
DO YOU NEED ME TO PAUSE? YEAH.
CHRIS, MAN, MANNY, THIS PROJECT, CAN I INTERRUPT? WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK ON OUR SIDE, SO IF I CAN JUST PAUSE YOU RIGHT THERE.
I DON'T THINK WE COULD HEAR YOU VERY WELL.
IS IT ON, IS IT ON OUR END OR IS IT A MICROPHONE ON THEIR END? WE DON'T KNOW.
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HAVE HIM TURN HIS LAPTOP VOLUME DOWN.COLIN, CAN YOU TURN YOUR LAPTOP VOLUME DOWN, PERHAPS? TRY THAT.
GO AHEAD AND, UH, MAYBE, UH, SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SAID.
CAN YOU HEAR ME HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
IT'S JUST WHETHER OR NOT WE HEAR THE STATIC THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? HAVE HIM GO AHEAD.
MAYBE SLIGHTLY BETTER SPEAKING.
AND THEN CAN ANYBODY HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU, COLIN.
UM, WE DO STILL HAVE A LITTLE FEEDBACK, BUT WHY DON'T YOU TRY TO, TO SUMMARIZE, WE APOLOGIZE.
DO YOU WANT ME TO START AGAIN? START AGAIN.
UM, UM, I'LL, I'LL JUST GO OVER, GO OVER IT AGAIN REAL QUICK.
MY NAME IS COLIN COLIN SCOTT, CO-FOUNDER OF WE STUDIO.
WHAT HES SAYING, UM, COACH STUDIO STARTED IN 2006, SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS KIND OF WORK FOR, UM, 17 YEARS, ALMOST 18 YEARS NOW.
WE'RE STILL UNABLE TO REALLY HEAR IN THIS ROOM, SO, UM, I WILL, WHAT ABOUT A CELL PHONE CALL? I, I WILL CALL YOU ON YOUR CELL PHONE.
CAN I TRY AGAIN? HOW'S THAT? UH, WE WILL JUST INCREASE THE VOLUME ON THE MICROPHONE.
I CAN APOLOGIZE AND YOU'LL HEAR ME LIKE A, IF YOU GIMME A THUMBS UP OR SOMETHING, MISSY, I'LL, I CAN SEE YOU.
CAN EVERYONE HEAR? NOT EASILY.
YOU NEED TO TURN THE VOLUME UP, MISSY, AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THEM.
IF WE CAN'T THANK, THANK THEM.
IF YOU GUYS CAN HEAR ME OKAY, WE CAN'T HEAR ME HEAR.
MISSY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.
COLIN AND CHRISTIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
WELL, I DON'T THINK, ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.
WE, WE, WE DID TEST BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT, UM, OBVIOUSLY IT WASN'T WORKING.
UM, SO WE'VE ASSEMBLED A TEAM WITH, WITH CODE STUDIO.
THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE, UH, CODE EXPERIENCE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
THEY'VE WRITTEN INNOVATIVE CODES, UM, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
UH, THEY HAVE ALSO ASSEMBLED A REALLY HIGH QUALITY SUB-CONSULTANT TEAM, UM, WITH EXPERTS THAT, UM, CAN ALSO ASSIST US WITH SOME OF OUR STORM WATER AND ENGINEERING, UM, AND NATURAL RESOURCE, UM, AND TO ASSIST WITH SOME OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
UM, THE FIRM DOES DO WORK NATIONALLY, UM, AND, UM, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THEY DO HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND IN RESORT AND COASTAL COMMUNITIES THAT, THAT THEY CAN PULL FROM.
SO, UM, THE, THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED, UM, FOR THE CODE, UM, INCLUDES, UM, OVERALL THEIR, THEIR PROCESS IS FIVE TASKS WHERE WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO, UM, IDENTIFY WHAT ALL THE ISSUES ARE.
UM, WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT QUICK FIXES, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, UM, DRAFTING CODE AND, AND THE ZONING MAP AND THE ADOPTION PROCESS.
UM, WE ALSO, UM, UH, ARE APPROACHING THIS, THAT THE PROJECT WOULD BE COMPLETED AND DIVIDED INTO TWO MAIN PARTS THAT WE'LL USE TO IMPLEMENT.
AND ONE IS, UM, AN INITIAL SET THAT WE'RE CALLING A QUICK FIX.
UM, AND THEN, AND THEN THE REST OF THE FULL OVERHAUL OF THE CODE WOULD BE, UM, IN THE FULL REWRITE.
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UM, AND SO WE, UM, INTEND TO KICK OFF WITH, UH, CODE STUDIO IN FEBRUARY.UM, AND FROM THERE WE WILL BEGIN WITH THAT INITIATION, UM, AND ISSUE IDENTIFICATION.
THEY'LL COME HERE AND WE'LL GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND GET THEM FAMILIARIZED WITH HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND WHAT OUR NEEDS AND ISSUES ARE.
UM, AND, UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE COMPLETING SOMETHING CALLED A CODE AUDIT, AND THEN THEY'LL IDENTIFY A CODE BLUEPRINT, UM, THAT WILL IDENTIFY KIND OF THE DETAILED PATH FORWARD BASED ON, UM, THEIR ASSESSMENT AND THAT CODE AUDIT AND THEIR PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON, ON HOW TO ADDRESS THESE NEEDS.
FROM THERE, WE WILL IMPLEMENT, UM, CODE THE THOSE QUICK FIX, UM, AND, AND ACCELERATE SOME OF THOSE AMENDMENTS.
UM, AND, UH, AND IN THAT INITIAL STAGE WE'LL ALSO LAUNCH THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, UH, PROGRAM FOR THIS WORK.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THAT CODE BLUEPRINT, WE'LL HAVE AN ENDORSEMENT STEP IN IT.
UM, AND, AND THEN WE WILL WORK ON AFTER THAT QUICK FIX REALLY TURNING THE PAGE AND WORKING ON THAT FULL CODE OVERHAUL AND REWRITE.
UM, AND, UM, SO THAT'S THE, THE BIG PICTURE PROCESS, AND I WANTED TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT QUICK FIX, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AND, UM, CLEAR DIRECTION ON, ON WHAT WHAT ITEMS, UH, CAN BE INCLUDED IN, IN THAT.
LET ME INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND.
IN THE, UM, AGENDA PACKET, IT SHOWED, UH, SORT OF THREE SEGMENTS OF THE, UH, PROCESS.
UH, DID I HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? UH, WHAT, WHEN, WHEN ARE WE EXPECTING THIS PROCESS TO BE CONCLUDED AND WHEN DO WE EXPECT THE QUICK FIXES TO BE CONCLUDED? UM, WELL, I CAN SAY THAT I DON'T WANNA GET TOO STUCK ON LIKE A TIMETABLE, BUT WE WILL BEGIN IN THIS INITIATION PERIOD WITHIN THE FIRST THREE MONTHS, WE'RE GONNA DIVE RIGHT IN AND START WORKING ON THOSE QUICK FIXES.
WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
UM, SO JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S ON THE TABLE ONCE WE GET THE, THE ISSUES IDENTIFIED AND GET THEM UP TO SPEED WITH ORIENTATION THAT WE WILL BE DRAFTING THAT CODE AND, AND GETTING IT READY FOR VETTING WITHIN THAT FIRST, UM, THREE MONTH TIMETABLE.
NOW, IT COULD BE THAT THERE'S SOME ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO CHECK IN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO USE THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE AS THAT SOUNDING BOARD CHAIRMAN.
UM, ONE OTHER PIECE THAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT AS YOU ARE LISTING THE VARIOUS, UM, STAKEHOLDERS WHO WOULD BE PART OF THAT INITIAL PROCESS.
ONE THAT I DIDN'T HEAR WAS, UM, THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL REPRESENTING THEIR VARIOUS WARDS.
AND AS THOSE REPRESENTATIVES, WE KNOW OUR WARDS BEST.
WE KNOW THE CONCERNS WE HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS AND WE, UM, INTERACT WITH THEM.
I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR WARD FOUR WHO, WHO THINKS OUTSIDE THE BOX, UM, OUTSIDE MY WARD, UM, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR WARD FOUR TO MAKE SURE THAT MY RESIDENTS ARE REPRESENTATIVE IN THAT INITIAL CONVERSATION.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M HOPING I'M ASKING FOR TO BE PART OF THAT PROCESS.
DAVID, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION IF I COULD.
UH, MISSY, WE HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF THE SELECTION PROCESS.
HOW MANY APPLICANTS WERE THERE? THERE WERE FOUR.
AND WHY DID YOU SELECT CODE STUDIO OVER THE OTHER THREE? UM, WHEN WE EVALUATED, WE DID SELECT TWO FINALISTS FOR INTERVIEW.
UM, THEY WERE BOTH GREAT FIRMS, SO WE COULDN'T MAKE A BAD DECISION, BUT, UM, I THINK THERE WAS FULL CONSENSUS IN THE ROOM AT THE INTERVIEW TABLE THAT DAY.
THAT CODE STUDIO BROUGHT MORE EXPERTISE, UM, MORE MORE HIGHER LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE IN THEIR ABILITIES TO DO THE WORK AND COMPLETE THE WORK, UM, AND TO MEET THE NEEDS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE CODE THAN, THAN THE ONE THAT THEY WERE STACKED UP AGAINST.
SO HOW ARE, HOW ARE OUR ISSUES PRESENTED TO THESE APPLICANTS? WAS IT JUST A SUMMARY? WE HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL ISSUE, WE HAVE A PARKING ISSUE.
UH, HOW WAS THAT DONE? UH, JUST IN SUMMARY.
IT WAS THROUGH AN RFQ AND IT IDENTIFIED, UM, IT IDENTIFIED SOME SPECIFIC NEEDS.
UM, SO THERE WAS LIKE A, A LENGTHY LAUNDRY LIST, IF YOU WILL, OF, OF SOME OF THE ISSUES OR TOPICS THAT WE WOULD BE ADDRESSING.
BUT IT DID ALSO INCLUDE THAT THERE WERE GOALS, THAT IT WAS A FULL COMPREHENSIVE REWRITE, THAT IT WAS TO CREATE A DESIGN CENTRIC CODE, THAT IT WAS USER FRIENDLY, THAT IT INCLUDED AN APPLICATIONS MANUAL.
SO IT INCORPORATES THE FULL DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROGRAM AND EASE ABILITY OF UTILIZING THE CODE AT THE END.
UM, AND, AND THEY DO THAT KIND OF WORK.
THEY, THEY DO GRAPHIC HEAVY CODES AND THEY WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CODE THAT THEY WRITE IS EASILY INTERPRETED AND CAN BE IMPLEMENTED EASILY ON THE OTHER
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END, BOTH BY THE, THE STAFF THAT WOULD ADMINISTER THE ZONING, BUT ALSO BY THE COMMUNITY AND THE DEVELOPERS THAT, THAT NEED TO READ IT AND UNDERSTAND IT.DID YOU CONTACT OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN SERVED BY CODE STUDIO? WE HAVE, YES.
I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOU AND CONFIDENCE IN THE TEAM.
I JUST NEEDED THAT BACKUP INFORMATION.
SINCE MR. STANFORD HAS ASKED ABOUT THAT, I, I'VE CONFIDENCE IN, IN THE SELECTION PROCESS AS WELL, BUT I, I THINK I RECALL THAT ONE OF THEIR, UH, PARTNERS, IF YOU WILL, IN THIS PROJECT IS A LAW FIRM.
UH, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT RESEARCH ABOUT THE LAW AND WHETHER OR NOT WE COMPLY WITH SOUTH CAROLINA LAW IN ADOPTION OR PREP PREPARATION OF THE DRAFT.
SO IS THERE A LAW FIRM ASSOCIATED WITH CODE STUDIO? UM, WELL, THEY DO HAVE, UH, THEY HAVE DONE WORK AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE, THE REGULATIONS IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
I DON'T RECALL IF THEY HAVE, IT'S NOT ONE OF THEIR SUB CONSULTANTS, BUT THEY DO HAVE LEGAL EXPERTISE WITHIN THEIR TEAM, UM, TO BE ABLE TO BRING CODE THAT THAT CAN BE ADOPTED AND MEETS STATE STATUTES.
YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST OF SUB CONSULTANTS, UM, WANER INVOLVED MOFFETT AND NICHOL SYMBIO AND WHERE MATTERS.
SO NONE OF THOSE ARE A LAW FIRMS, CORRECT? THEY'RE NOT.
THEY DO HAVE ATTORNEYS ON THEIR STAFF.
UM, I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT, BUT THEY DO HAVE LEGAL EXPERTISE AS PART OF THEIR TEAM, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE AS AN ATTORNEY
UM, SO IF WE ARE, UH, COMFORTABLE WITH THE OVERALL PROCESS OF THE, THE, THE CODE OVERHAUL AND, AND MAINLY THE, THE TWO STEPS, THE MAIN TWO STEPS, WHICH IS A QUICK FIX APPROACH AND THEN A FULL OVERHAUL.
AND, UM, THERE'S OVERLAP A LITTLE BIT WITH THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND, AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER PROCESSES, BUT, UM, WE WANTED TO SPEND SOME TIME TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE QUICK FIX.
UM, AND THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED HERE STEMMED FROM A PRIOR PLAN WHERE WE HAD, WE HAD BEEN, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT PREVIOUSLY WAS CALLED PHASE FOUR.
UM, AND, AND THESE WERE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN PHASE FOUR.
AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, UM, WHEN WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RESET WITH A NEW CODE WRITER AND, AND PROCESS AND KICKOFF, WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE QUICK FIX SET ARE TRULY QUICK FIXES.
AND THAT WE, WE CAN, WE CAN ADVANCE THESE, THEY MEET AN IMMEDIATE NEED, AND THEN OTHER ITEMS CAN BE, UM, MOVED OVER TO THE FULL CODE REWRITE AND WE WON'T GET STUCK, UM, BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE QUICK FIX STAYS AHEAD OF, UM, THE FULL OVERHAUL THAT THE DISTRICTS INFORM THAT FULL OVERHAUL.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PROCESS THAT, UM, INFORMS THIS WORK THAT NEEDS TO ALSO BE ADVANCED.
AND, UM, AND, UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET THAT, UM, MINDSET AROUND, UM, ALL THE OTHER WORK THAT WE HAVE GOING ON THAT ALSO INFORMS THIS WORK.
UM, AND SO WITH THE QUICK FIX SET UP ON THE SCREEN INCLUDES, UM, WHAT WAS LISTED IN THE MEMO AS WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE QUICK FIX.
AND THEN, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE ITEMS THAT HAVE A STRIKETHROUGH ON THEM, AND THOSE ARE ONES THAT, UM, STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT WE PUSH TO THE FULL REWRITE.
UM, AND THEN I ADDED SOME, UM, IN PARENTHESES JUST KIND OF WHAT THOSE MIGHT ENTAIL A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, NASA SCALE AND SINGLE FAMILY PARKING WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM ARE INCLUDED.
AND THOSE ARE CALIBRATIONS OF APPROPRIATE SCALE AND APPROPRIATE PARKING CALCULATIONS, UH, FOR BOTH, UM, RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
UH, MAY INCLUDE CONTEXT SENSITIVE DESIGN, SCALE CONNECTIVITY, LOCK CONFIGURATION, THOSE KINDS OF COMPONENTS.
THIS, AGAIN, IN THE QUICK FIX MAY NOT BE THE END RESULT OF A FULL SUBDIVISION REGULATION OVERHAUL, BUT THOSE ITEMS THAT COULD BE, UM, INFLUENTIAL IN ADDRESSING SOME CURRENT COMMUNITY NEEDS IN AND, UM, UH, SETBACK ANGLES, UM, WAS THE, THE WHAT WAS IN THE PHASE FOUR SET BEFORE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THAT BE PUSHED FORWARD.
UM, PUBLIC REVIEW OF THE MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS AND MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS TO REQUIRE THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL STEP.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE BEGUN, BUT IT IS NOT YET CODIFIED.
UM, AND SO THAT REMAINS IN THE QUICK FIX SET, UM, MAKING AN ADJUSTMENT TO OPEN SPACE STANDARDS, UM, AND THEN, UM, DEVELOPMENT SITE DESIGN, UM, WHICH WAS TO ESTABLISH SOME CONSTRUCTION SITE MANAGEMENT STANDARDS, UM, RECOMMEND PUSHING THAT.
THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS TO ADJUST BOTH THE THRESHOLD REQUIREMENTS
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OF WHEN, UH, AN IMPACT ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED AND THEN TO EXPAND THE STUDY TO INCLUDE NOT JUST VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, BUT MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION.SO VEHICLES, UH, PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES.
UM, THE TREE PROTECTION ITEM IS TO STRENGTHEN SOME OF OUR PROTECTED TREE REQUIREMENTS AND TREE MITIGATION.
UM, STORMWATER IS TO ALSO STRENGTHEN, UM, OF A LOT OF OUR STORMWATER REGULATIONS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE EXISTING ORDINANCE.
THE SIGN STANDARD UPDATE IS TO, UM, BRING OUR SIGN CODE INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE REED VERSUS GILBERT CASE, WHICH IS CONTENT CONTENT NEUTRALITY.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WE DO HAVE ON THE LIST THAT WE WOULD DO FAMILY COMPOUND AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS TO FURTHER CALIBRATE THOSE, UM, REQUIREMENTS WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THEIR INITIAL ADOPTION.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS ADDED INTO THE PHASE FOUR SET.
UM, IT, IT PROVES TO BE, UM, A, A DIFFICULT TOPIC AND SO IT DOESN'T FIT THE DEFINITION OF QUICK, UM, WHICH IS THE ONLY REASON, I KNOW IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT WE WILL WORK ON IN THE FULL OVERHAUL AND IT'S ONE THAT WAS ADDED IN.
SO, UM, BUT IT IS ONE THAT, UH, WILL TAKE CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO, TO SORT OUT.
SO, UM, ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE QUICK FIX SET AND THEN AT LEAST THE ITEMS THAT STAFF HAS PROPOSED TO PUSH TO THE FULL REWRITE? AND, UM, AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT IF THERE ARE ITEMS THAT STAY IN THE QUICK FIX SET, THAT, THAT PROVE TO NOT BE QUICK, UM, WE WOULD ALSO PUSH THOSE IF, IF WE COME OUT AND, AND IT'S, AND IT'S GOING TO BOG DOWN THE WHOLE PROCESS THAT WE WOULD REMOVE THOSE FROM THAT QUICK FIX SET AND PUSH THEM TO THE FULL PREWRITE.
YOU SEE MY, UH, OBSERVATION IS THAT THE ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE, UH, INCLUDED, UM, SPEAK TO THE ISSUES OF OVERDEVELOPMENT ON THE ISLAND.
AND SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF, UH, UM, ADOPTING YOUR LIST OF QUICK FIXES, UH, TO BE ACCOMPLISHED, UH, WITHIN THAT THREE MONTH TIMEFRAME THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, FOR PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT I OPEN IT TO OTHERS ON THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE.
TYSON? YES, MR. CHAIR? UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR, UH, MISINFORMATION SO FAR.
I DO RECOGNIZE THIS LIST AS PART OF PHASE FOUR, UM, BUT I THINK IT'S TOO MUCH TO BITE OFF FOR A QUICK FIX.
I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE REALLY HOT BUTTON ISSUES.
UM, AND, AND THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT, UH, I WANNA ASK ABOUT.
ONE IS, WE HAVE THIS CONDITIONS AND TRENDS ASSESSMENT, WHICH YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT LATER TODAY,
UM, BUT UM, HAS THERE BEEN A COMPARISON OF THESE CONDITIONS AND TRENDS WITH THIS LIST TO, TO DECIDE WHAT TO INCLUDE OR WHAT TO EXCLUDE? UH, NOT DIRECTLY, NO.
UM, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONDITIONS AND TRENDS AND HOW WE'LL APPLY THAT DATA, WE CAN, UH, IT WILL BE INFORMING ALL OF THIS WORK.
AND THEN THE SECOND, UM, OBSERVATION IS IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CONCERN OF OUR DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, WHICH WAS RAISED MORE THAN TWO YEARS AGO ABOUT THE MASS AND SCALE OF NONS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
I'LL JUST DESCRIBE IT THAT WAY.
UM, AND THAT NEEDS ABSOLUTELY TO BE ON THIS LIST BECAUSE THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD ASKED FOR IT MORE THAN TWO YEARS AGO.
I'VE ASKED FOR IT PERSONALLY MAYBE FIVE YEARS AGO,
UM, AND IT'S TIME THAT WE INCLUDE THIS ON THE QUICK FIX LIST BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OVERWHELMING OUR ISLAND.
AND, AND I THINK I, MR. CHAIR, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE LIST.
UM, AND I WOULD SUGGEST, UM, THAT WE REDUCE THE LIST, UM, TO FOCUS ON SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING MASS AND SCALE ONLY IN CERTAIN AREAS.
UM, SINGLE FAMILY PARKING, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT ISSUE LATER.
I WOULD TAKE THAT OFF THE LIST RIGHT NOW.
PUBLIC REVIEW OF MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS AND MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS.
I TAKE THAT OFF NOW BECAUSE I THINK THAT MIGHT RELATE TO THE SUBDIVISIONS TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
UM, LESS NEIGHBORHOODS, IT HARDLY EVER HELPS
UM, I WOULD PUT THAT ON THE, IF THERE'S A, IF, IF SOMEONE SHOWS ME A NEED TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW, I'D BE WILLING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
FREE PROTECTION AS FAR AS CLEAR CUTTING YES.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO TO COMPLY WITH A A CASE, YES, BUT ONLY FOR THAT REASON, THAT'S HOW I WOULD REDUCE
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THE LIST.I ADD THAT ONE OPEN SPACE YOU WOULD PREFER TO, UM, POSTPONE YES.
AND TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IF THERE'S A CASE THAT, UH, DEMANDS IT.
UH, ONE SINGLE POINTED QUESTION, SINGLE FAMILY PARKING, DOES THAT INCLUDE PARKING FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS? YES.
AND WE WILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO CALL A SHORT-TERM RENTAL A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY.
SO THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE CLARIFIED, INCLUDING SDRS.
WELL, GLENN, YOUR POINT IS EXTREMELY WELL TAKEN.
SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE NOT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BY THE TRUEST SENSE OF THE WORD.
IN FACT, THE COMMERCIAL ENTITIES MASQUERADING AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND YOU'VE HEARD FOR THE BETTER PART OF FIVE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN PART OF THIS COUNCIL, MY REPRESENTATION OF THOSE RESIDENTS ACROSS THIS ISLAND WHO ARE ABSOLUTELY DISTURBED, BOTHERED BY THE INFUSION, IF NOT A DAILY, UM, CONSEQUENCE OF NOISE, LITTER, PARKING, ET CETERA, BUT BY THE MASS AND SCALE OF THE HOMES THAT ARE INFILTRATING THEIR HOMES AND DESTROYING THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE AS A HILTON HEAD ISLAND ANG RESIDENT.
AND SO YOU'VE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
WE NEED A DEFINITION AND WE NEED AN UNDERSTANDING THAT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ARE NOT THE SAME AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEREFORE THE FAR AND THE PARKING, WHICH HAS BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION FOR BETTER THAN FIVE YEARS, IS NOT A QUICK FIX HERE, BECAUSE IT INDEED HAS BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION OF WHAT TO DO FOR THOSE RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, FIRST AND FOREMOST, FOR THE BETTER PART OF FIVE YEARS.
AND IN FACT, WE HAD A SOLUTION TWO, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH THAT WAS VOTED BY ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING SIX TO ONE ON THE ONE PORTION, AND SEVEN TO ZERO ON THE PARKING PIECE, AND PEACE.
AND HERE WE ARE STUCK FIRST RATING OF AN ORDINANCE, AND NOW WE'RE BACK TO QUICK FIXES.
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE THESE ROOMS HAVE BEEN PACKED FOR THE BETTER PART OF FIVE YEARS WITH RESIDENTS CLAMORING FOR HELP.
I'VE TRIED, I HAVE TRIED FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU AND I HEAR YOU.
AND WE HAD A SMALL GROUP, SMALL GROUP OF POWERFUL FOLKS WHO HAVE STOOD UP AND PUSHED BACK AND THEIR VOICES HAVE BEEN HEARD.
AND WE ALL KNOW WHO AND WHY THAT IS.
AND NOW WE SIT HERE LOOKING THREE, FOUR A YEAR OUT FOR QUICK FIXES TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAD SOLVED A MONTH AGO AT A FIRST READING WITH A SIX ONE AND A SEVEN OH VOTE.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU EXPLAINED QUICK FIX TO A RESIDENT OF 37, 30 9,000 PEOPLE WHO HAVE ASKED US FOR HELP FOR BETTER THAN FIVE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED THOUGH.
SO YOU WANNA GO PULL IT BY BULLET POINT? NO, WE DO NEED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BECAUSE THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE STRUGGLING NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THESE REGULATIONS WITHIN TRAFFIC ISSUE THAT IMPACTS THEIR DAYS ON A DAY, THEIR LIVES ON A DAILY BASIS.
THEY CAN'T GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR HOUSES, WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT BECAUSE OF THE OVERBURDENED RENTAL SITUATION, BECAUSE OF THE BICYCLES AND THE E-BIKES THAT ARE TOOLING AROUND ALL OVER THE PLACES, THOUGH THOSE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER.
AND EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE YOU WILL BUILD ONE MORE MEGA HOME IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT TAKE UP EVERY FOUR CORNERS AS HIGH AS THIS ZONING ORDINANCE WILL ALLOW IN TERMS OF HEIGHT.
SO DO NOT TAKE THAT OFF OF A QUICK FIX FINE STANDARDS.
WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO, WHATEVER THIS ISSUE ASSIGNED STANDARDS IS, THAT HAS NOW HELD US UP FROM LOOKING AT WHAT IS HAPPENING ACROSS OUR ISLAND, WHEREBY IN THE PAST WE NEVER HAD NEON LIGHTS.
WE HAD TO COME BEFORE THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO PUT UP A SIGN THAT WAS WITHIN THE CHARACTER OF THE ISLAND, COLORS, SIZE, STANDARDS, FONTS, ET CETERA, TO NOW WE HAVE THE TYPE THAT YOU HAVE OUT IN FRONT OF A USED CAR DEALERSHIP.
SO YES, WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS WITH TRYING SIGN STANDARDS, GET IT RESOLVED SO WE CAN GET BACK TO HAVING THE QUALITY OF, UM, ISLAND THAT WE USED TO HAVE TREE PROTECTION.
IT'S NOT JUST CLEAR CUTTING AND WE'RE THINKING CLEAR CUTTING AND MASS SCALE.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SUBDIVISION, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CLEAR CUTTING, JUST, UM, AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DESCRIBED HERE WITH AN INDIVIDUAL A LOT WHERE THEY GO IN AND THEY TAKE DOWN HISTORIC TREES.
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SO YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CLEAR CUTTING IS.BECAUSE NOW YOU GO INTO AN OLD ESTABLISHED HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE RESIDENT LOTS CAN BE SUBDIVIDED AND CUT IN HALF AND THERE IS NO EXPECTATION OF HAVING OPEN SPACE.
IT'S JUST ONE HOUSE AFTER ANOTHER HOUSE AFTER ANOTHER HOUSE WITH NO CONSIDERATION OF STORM WATER AND RUNOFF IN OUR ENVIRONMENT, OUR HABITAT.
SO I'VE GOT LOTS OF ISSUES WITH ALL OF THIS QUICK FIX.
EVERY ONE OF THESE IS IMPORTANT.
THEY'VE BEEN IMPORTANT FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS.
IT'S BEEN IMPORTANT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND SINCE 19 82, 19 83 WHEN WE INCORPORATED, THAT'S WHY WE INCORPORATED THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ROLLING YOUR EYES, YOUR DRAMA IS NOT IMPORTANT HERE.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS WHY WE ARE WHO WE ARE.
AND LET, LET'S NOT FORGET THAT.
SO WHAT, WHAT I HEAR IS THAT THERE ARE THREE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY WHO BELIEVE THAT THIS LIST IS APPROPRIATE.
THERE'S ONE MEMBER WHO HAS SUGGESTED THAT MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, UH, AND THE DRB SITUATION BE INCLUDED.
IS THERE A REASON WHY THAT WASN'T INCLUDED OR IS THIS ONLY FOR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT, WHAT'S THE PRIORITY? UM, I WON'T SPEAK FOR MISSY.
UM, THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE TOPIC AREAS, UM, WHERE WE HAVE THIS MOST SIGNIFICANT PRESSURE FROM OVERDEVELOPMENT AND BELIEVE THAT WE NEED ADDITIONAL TOOLS TO PROVIDE, UM, A MECHANISM TO MEET COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY THE, THE, THE NON-RESIDENTIAL, THE COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY IS NOT ON HERE.
WE THINK BECAUSE OF THE DISTRICT PLANNING AND THE DEPTH OF INFORMATION TO GO INTO INFORMING THAT, UM, WE'LL PROVIDE THE MASS AND SCALE FOR THE NON-RESIDENTIAL.
UM, WE DID IN PREVIOUS PHASES, MAKE SURE THERE WERE NO VARIANCES, UM, FOR EVERYTHING BUT USE AND DENSITY I BELIEVE AND HEIGHT.
SO THERE, THERE WE HAVE PUT SOME PROTECTIONS IN PLACE.
I THINK RIGHT NOW THE BIGGEST PRESSURE IS, IS, UM, IN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES FROM OVERDEVELOPMENT, SHORT-TERM RENTAL PARKING.
AND SO THIS LIST, UM, HAS BEEN VETTED AND, AND MY CONFERRED WITH MISSY, WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DELIVER THE ONES THAT AREN'T STRUCK THROUGH.
A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS OR YEAR OR YEAR ON A LOT OF THIS.
UM, AND, AND WE BELIEVE WE CAN ADVANCE THAT IN THE TIMEFRAME THAT WAS REC RECOMMENDED BY MISSY A FEW MINUTES AGO.
ME ASK MY QUESTION IN A DIFFERENT WAY, UM, BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO AGREE THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT THE TOWN HAS TO FACE.
IS THERE A REASON WHY THIS CAN'T BE INCLUDED IN THIS LIST BECAUSE OF TIMING OR FOCUS OR COMMUNITY INPUT OR FOR WHATEVER REASON? UM, WELL LET JUMP BACK A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK RELATED TO SINGLE FAMILY OR NEIGHBORHOOD OR RESIDENTIAL.
UM, IN ORDER TO DO THE ASSESSMENT TO INFORM THE COMMITTEE OF EXISTING CONDITIONS AND COME FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD TAKE LONGER THAN THE 90 DAY PERIOD THAT, THAT SHE MENTIONED EARLIER.
I MIGHT SUGGEST, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO THE OTHER ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA BEFORE WE DECIDE ON THIS FINAL LIST.
I THINK SOME THINGS MIGHT BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE OTHER PRESENTATIONS IN OUR ACTIONS.
UM, AND, UM, I THINK, UM, THE OTHER THING I'M GONNA SAY IS THAT LAST JANUARY WE PROMISED TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH DISTRICT PLANNING AND WE'D HAVE RESOLUTION LAST YEAR.
AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT A LONG LIST.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THE ISSUES, NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
UM, UM, CERTAINLY CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING AND IMPACT ON OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND TRAFFIC THERE, BUT, UM, IT TAKES A WHILE TO DO THIS.
IT'S, IT'S ALREADY TAKEN MUCH LONGER THAN, THAN THE COMMUNITY HEARD US TALK ABOUT WITH DISTRICT PLANNING.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANT US TO LOOK AT THIS LIST MORE CAREFULLY AND BE REALISTIC ABOUT HOW LONG THIS IS TAKE GONNA TAKE.
BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT EXACTLY HOW THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS GONNA WORK.
WE HAVEN'T INCLUDED, YES, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT'S REQUIRED BY STATUTE OR BY CODE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE INVOLVED.
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WHAT ABOUT THE GULLAH GEECHEE LAND AND, AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE? WHAT ABOUT THE HOUSING ACTION COMMITTEE? SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF STEPS ALONG THE WAY, AND FOR US TO CALL THIS LONG LIST A QUICK FIX, I THINK IS DISINGENUOUS.AND THAT'S WHY I WANNA SUGGEST THAT WE WAIT UNTIL WE ADDRESS THE OTHER ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TO COME UP WITH WHAT TO INCLUDE ON THE QUICK FIX.
UM, I THINK WE SHOULD, UM, HAVE A MOTION TO INCLUDE THIS LIST, THE DRB ASIDE FOR A SECOND, UH, BECAUSE WE CAN ELIMINATE THEM IF WE TAKE CARE OF IT AT THE NEXT PART OF THE AGENDA.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO RELY ON STAFF'S, UH, OPINION THAT THE ISSUE OF MULTIFAMILY IS SOMETHING THAT THEY, UH, CAN'T HANDLE IN THE 90 DAY PERIOD.
AND I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS LIST AS PRESENTED.
I WOULD SO MOVE THERE A SECOND.
UM, BY CODIFYING THE PROCESS FOR MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL PROTECTION FOR THE NON RES, FOR MULTI THE LARGE MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL.
SO THERE IS ANOTHER LEVEL OF PROTECTION THERE THAT WE HAVE UNTIL WE GET THE RIGHT CALIBRATED CODE GOING FORWARD.
SO THERE'S A MOTION, UH, AND A SECOND.
ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR MOTION BEING NONE AT THIS TIME? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE.
UM, JOCELYN STEIGER, GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS DIRECTOR FOR THE HILTON HEAD AREA REALTORS AND THE BEAUFORT, JASPER COUNTY REALTORS.
UM, JUST WANTED TO DISCUSS THE FIRST TWO ITEMS AND IT BEING A QUICK FIX.
UM, I HAVE SAID FOR A VERY LONG TIME, I KNOW WE ALL KEEP SAYING HOW WE'VE BEEN SAYING THINGS FOR A LONG TIME, THAT DATA NEEDS TO DRIVE OUR DECISIONS AND, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF LOOKING AT DATA.
I APPRECIATE EMOTIONAL AND PASSIONATE LEADERS.
I'M AN EMOTIONAL AND PASSIONATE PERSON, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GOVERNING AND REALLY LOOKING AT THINGS, WE NEED TO SET OUR PERSONAL AGENDAS AND EMOTIONS ASIDE AND LOOK AT DATA.
I'M HEARING FROM PEOPLE THERE'S A PROBLEM DEFINITELY, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE PARKING, WHICH IS PROBABLY RELATED TO OCCUPANCY.
SO AGAIN, I WOULD SUGGEST, AS I HAVE BEEN SAYING UNFORTUNATELY FOR A LONG TIME, LET'S LOOK AT OUR DATA.
WE DO NOT HAVE A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN CERTAIN AREAS.
LET'S LOOK AT THOSE AREAS AND DEAL WITH WHERE THINGS ARE PROBLEMATIC AND LOOK AT OUR DATA.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN HERE OR, OR SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT DATA.
SO WE MAKE DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS AND NOT EMOTIONAL ONES.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD, UM, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT MOVE TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND, A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WILL RENT THEIR PLACE PART OF THE YEAR SO THAT SOMEDAY THEY CAN RETIRE HERE AND ENJOY THE ISLAND AS A PERMANENT RESIDENT.
LET'S NOT FORGET THESE TYPES OF FOLKS.
UM, I THINK WE ARE PAINTING A PICTURE THAT IS A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM AND WE DON'T HAVE A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.
NO, HERE WE'RE AGAIN, UM, LISA KOTTER, THE TWO AB ON PROPERTY AND TAMARA'S NEIGHBOR.
UM, I HAVE JUST A FEW COMMENTS I DIDN'T PLAN ON TALKING TODAY.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN YOU NAME SOMETHING QUICK FIX, I THINK IT GIVES US ALL THE WRONG IMPRESSION.
UM, I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT YOU MAYBE CHANGE THAT TO INITIAL PHASE OR FIRST PHASE OR SOMETHING.
WHEN I HEAR QUICK FIX, I THINK YOU ARE JUST GONNA, YOU KNOW, GET THIS OUT AND, AND THAT DOESN'T GIMME A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS RIGHT.
UM, I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THIS THREE MONTH TIME, PRAISE TIME, UM, PERIOD.
I, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR AT LEAST A YEAR AND A HALF, PROBABLY LONGER.
UM, SO THREE MONTHS, I, I, I'M NOT SURE, BUT THAT'S ENOUGH TIME TO GET IT RIGHT.
UM, AND I, I KNOW YOU, TAMARA, YOU'VE SAID THAT WE'VE BEEN, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SO LONG.
YOU HAD ALL THE VOTES WE'RE READY TO PASS IT.
AND THEN A FEW PEOPLE FOUGHT IT.
I FOUGHT IT PERSONALLY, NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S NEEDED.
I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH THAT.
ALL THESE REGULATIONS ARE NEEDED, BUT WE CAN'T JUST BLANKET THEM.
WE CAN'T JUST BLANKET THEM OVER THE WHOLE ISLAND.
THAT IS MY CONCERN WHEN YOU SET UP RULES FOR THE ENTIRE ISLAND, NOT LOOK AT EACH ZONE SPECIFICALLY.
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THE PROBLEM COMES IN.LET'S FIGURE IT OUT, RIGHT? A QUICK FIX THAT THOSE WORDS DON'T GIVE ME CONFIDENCE THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS RIGHT.
I HAVE TO SAY, UM, THAT'S A VALID OBSERVATION.
JUST WHENEVER YOU'RE DONE, PLEASE.
AND, AND I JUST WANNA COMMENT 'CAUSE I HAVE THE GREATEST NEIGHBORS EVER, BUT I WANT YOU TO LOOK ACROSS THIS ROOM.
THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES ACROSS THE ISLAND WHO ARE SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE.
AND SO THE, THE PROBLEM IS ISLAND WIDE.
AND SO THE SOLUTIONS THEY'RE ASKING FOR ARE FOUND WITHIN WHAT IS BEING SUGGESTED HERE.
SO THAT COMMONALITY DOES SUGGEST THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, AND I AM THRILLED TO HAVE YOU AS A NEIGHBOR, PLEASE.
I LIVE ON, HAVE A HOME ON BRADLEY CIRCLE, 37 BRADLEY CIRCLE.
AND I'VE ATTENDED SOME OF THESE MEETINGS.
UM, AND YOU HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION, WHICH I APPRECIATE.
AND THE SHAME OF IT IS WE LITERALLY HAVE NEIGHBOR VERSUS NEIGHBOR IN, IN VERY CONFLICTING OPINIONS.
AND IT'S JUST UNHEALTHY AND VERY, VERY UNFORTUNATE.
UM, EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD'S DIFFERENT.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD I'M IN HAS PROBABLY BEEN 80% DEVELOPED AND THERE'S STILL SOME DEVELOPMENT TO BE LEFT THERE, BUT THAT'S FAR DIFFERENT THAN A BRAND NEW SUBDIVISION THAT COULD HAVE DOZENS OR HUNDREDS OF HOMES AND HOW THAT IS TREATED.
UM, I THINK THAT ALL NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT INTO CONSIDERATION.
ONE, INVESTMENT IN A PROPERTY IS IMPORTANT.
IT'S FOR MOST AMERICANS, IT'S THE SINGLE BIG INVESTMENT THAT THEY HAVE.
AND MY PROPERTY HERE, AND I FORTUNATE TO OWN SOME HOMES OUTSIDE OF ATLANTA, IS OUR SINGLE BIGGEST INVESTMENT.
AND THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED FOR PEOPLE AS WELL IN THE BALANCE OF ALL THIS.
AND LASTLY, I'LL JUST SAY I DON'T KNOW WHO THESE POWERFUL PEOPLE ARE, BUT I'M NOT POWERFUL AND PARTICULARLY IN THIS SITUATION, I HAVE ALMOST NO POWER.
SO OTHER THAN COMING AND GETTING TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF YOU ALL AND EVERYBODY'S VERY EMOTIONAL AND PASSIONATE AND THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT WE HAVE TO BALANCE EVERYBODY'S NEEDS ACROSS THE TIME AND WHAT'S FAIR AND EQUITABLE AND THE LONG-TERM FUTURE FOR THE ISLAND.
HI, MY NAME IS BRIAN ESPOSITO.
I AM A HOME BUILDER ON THE ISLAND.
I HAVE THREE KIDS TO GO TO THE SCHOOL.
I THINK I'M A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
I'M NOT JUST A SPECIAL INTEREST LOOKING TO LINE MY POCKETS.
UH, PERSONALLY, I'M A CUSTOM HOME BUILDER.
I CHOOSE NOT TO BUILD THE LARGE VACATION SHORT-TERM RENTAL HOMES AS A PERSONAL THING.
'CAUSE I, I THINK THERE, THERE IS AN ISSUE.
UH, I THINK WE DO NEED TO CONTROL AND ADDRESS THE PARKING SO THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO, TO LIVE IN THEIR HOMES AND ENJOY OUR, OUR COMMUNITIES.
HOWEVER, THE, UM, THE MOTION THAT WAS ABOUT TO PASS WAS A BLANKET, ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
AND IT DIDN'T REALLY, IT WASN'T GONNA WORK.
IT WAS GONNA KILL A PROJECT THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF FOR A HOMEOWNER THAT'S BEEN ON VACATIONING DOWN HERE FOR 20 YEARS.
THEY ARE FINALLY READY TO RETIRE.
THEY WANNA BUILD A HOUSE IN THE COMMUNITY ON THE OCEAN.
IT WOULD'VE MET THE MORE RESTRICTIVE, FAR REQUIREMENTS.
IT WOULD NOT HAVE MET THE NEW RESTRICTIONS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.
AND FOR US TO JUST BLANKET MAKE THOSE CHANGES, WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO COME AND RETIRE AND ENJOY THIS PLACE.
UM, AND YES, WE DO NEED CAREFUL, UM, AND THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT.
WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS THE CLEAR CUTTING OF NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE WAS ON STONEFIELD ROAD.
YES, THOSE NEED TO BE ALL ADDRESSED.
WE'RE NOT AS A BUILDER, I'M NOT STANDING AGAINST THOSE.
THERE DOES NEED TO BE GOOD DEVELOPMENT, JUST LIKE WHAT'S MADE THIS ISLAND GREAT FOR ALL THOSE YEARS.
SO I ASKED, YES, LET'S KEEP GOING.
YOU'RE DOING GOOD WORK, BUT LET'S NOT MAKE A MISTAKE AND DO SOMETHING THAT'S TOO RESTRICTIVE AND HARMS THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT ARE FUTURE RESIDENTS AND OUR EXISTING RESIDENTS.
UM, REG, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT YOUR COMMENTS REGARD THIS PARTICULAR MOTION.
UM, SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS IT, PLEASE? FIRST OF ALL, JUST TO COMMENT, UH, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE WORKING IN A CORPORATION FOR 45 YEARS THAT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE WASN'T, UM,
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INVOLVED IN THIS ELECTION OF, OR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LIST.UM, SEEMS LIKE YOU WERE, YOU JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.
UM, THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS THAT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, UH, UH, ZONE, UH, SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE MULTIFAMILY LARGE BOX RENTALS, UH, AUTOMATICALLY PUT IN IT.
UH, AND THE THIRD COMMENT THAT I WOULD HAVE IS I HAVEN'T, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS LIST WAS INFORMED BY THE SURVEY THAT APPARENTLY EVERYBODY TOOK.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT, THAT WAS.
I HOPE WE GET TO HEAR THE RESULTS OF THAT.
UM, IT SEEMS, UH, UNUSUAL TO ME.
AND LASTLY, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT, UM, WHAT MANY PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THESE LARGE BOX RENTALS, AND THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WASN'T MADE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, MR. CHAIR.
IF NOT, I HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
I, I DO NOT WANT TO VOTE AGAINST A LIST FOR QUICK FIX.
SO I MOVE THAT WE TABLE THIS MOTION UNTIL, UM, THE END OF NEW BUSINESS.
SO WHEN, SO THE END OF NEW BUSINESS TODAY, SO THAT WE CAN, BECAUSE I THINK THE LIST WILL BE ADDRESSED DURING, UM, THE NEXT ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? HEARING NONE.
THAT MOTION WILL MOTION TO AMEND WILL FAIL.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE PREVIOUSLY.
PLEASE, UH, SIGNIFY RAISING YOUR HAND.
MOTION FAILS THREE TO ONE AND I VOTE NO.
[5.b. Discussion of Amendments to the Land Management Ordinance related to Parking, Floor Area Ratio, and Mass and Scale for Single Family Dwellings - Missy Luick, Director of Planning]
THE AGENDA IS THE DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE RELATED TO PARKING FLOOR AREA RATIO, MASSIVE SCALE OF SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, MISSY.SO, UM, THE MEMO THAT WAS INCLUDED, UH, IN THE PACKET, UH, DID TRY TO SUMMARIZE THE, THE HISTORY ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.
UM, AND I'LL, I'LL BACK UP REAL QUICK, UM, AND SPEAK TO THE NAME, QUICK FIX.
AND, UM, THIS DISCUSSION WE'RE IN IS CALLED FOUR A AND ALL OF THOSE ITEMS WERE PART OF PHASE FOUR.
WE CAN CALL THE QUICK FIX PHASE FOUR, BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DO IS TO HAVE THESE SPLINTER AMENDMENTS AND HAVE A FOUR A, A FOUR B, A FOUR C AND TO BUCKET THOSE ALL INTO ONE AMENDMENT SET.
SO IT'S INITIAL SET, IT COULD BE CALLED PHASE FOUR AGAIN.
UM, BUT WHERE WE'RE PICKING UP OFF OF IS WHAT WE WERE CALLING FOUR A, UM, WHICH WAS THE FOUR AREA RATIO AND, AND PARKING DISCUSSION.
AND IT HAS HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, WITH THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, UM, AND COUNCIL, UM, UH, FROM JUNE THROUGH, UH, THE END OF LAST YEAR.
AND, UM, WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR IS, UM, A DISCUSSION, UM, ABOUT A SERIES OF QUESTIONS TO PROVIDE FURTHER CLARITY, UM, BOTH FOR STAFF AND OUR, OUR CODE CONSULTANT THAT, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL WE'LL WATCH THIS RECORDING AFTER.
AND, UM, AND REALLY HELP US HONE IN ON WHAT ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE NEED TO ANSWER TO FURTHER IDENTIFY THE ISSUES TO THEN GO TO WORK AND CRAFT THE CODE, UH, THAT WE NEED TO, TO ADDRESS THESE ITEMS. UM, AND, UM, SORRY, SO I DIDN'T WANNA GO THROUGH SOME OF THAT, UM, RECAP OF THAT HISTORY BECAUSE, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU WERE ALL VERY INVOLVED IN ALL OF THAT.
UM, BUT WANTED TO JUST PICK UP, UH, TODAY WITH THESE DISCUSSION QUESTIONS TO LEAD US TO HOW IT WILL INFORM THIS PHASE FOUR FIX OR QUICK FIX OR WHATEVER WE MAY BE CALLING IT NOW.
AND, UM, AND THESE QUESTIONS WERE IDENTIFIED IN, IN THE PACKET.
UM, AND WE HOPE THAT THEY WILL LEAD US TO, AND, AND WILL ASK FOR SOME VERY CLEAR DIRECTION FROM THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, UM, ON DIRECTION TO, TO WRITE THE CODE AND FIND THE SOLUTIONS TO SOLVE THESE AND BRING THESE FORWARD.
UM, SO I CAN DRIVE THROUGH THESE OR OR CHAIR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UM, HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU, YOU GO AHEAD AND I THINK THAT I, I WOULD ASK THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO SIMPLY NOD OR OBJECT, BUT LET'S NOT GET INTO A LONG DISCUSSION ON EACH ONE UNTIL WE'VE SORT OF VETTED OUT THEM ALL.
SO THE QUESTIONS AS WRITTEN, UM, AND THEN, UH, ARE IN BLACK, AND THEN THE RED IS, IS STAFF'S, UM, ATTEMPT AT AT MAKING THOSE, UH, JUST TO KIND OF START THE CONVERSATION SO WE DON'T START FROM FROM SCRATCH.
SO THE, THE FIRST SERIES IS ABOUT PARKING.
AND THE QUESTION TO THE, THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE WAS, DO, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT PARKING IS AN ISSUE FOR ALL SINGLE
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FAMILY HOMES ISLAND-WIDE, UM, STAFF BELIEFS THAT THAT ANSWER IS NO, AND GENERALLY SINGLE FAMILY PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE ADEQUATE FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS.DO WE AGREE WITH THAT PLEASE? SO THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS YES, AS LONG AS THEY'RE USED AS A SINGLE FAMILY, UM, RESIDENTS, WHEN THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, UM, COMES IN FOR A PERMIT TO BECOME A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.
DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I AGREE WITH THAT.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HERE, JUST SHOW, RAISE YOUR HAND.
DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS CONCLUSION? NO SINGLE FAMILY PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE ADEQUATE FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS.
I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS.
UM, WE'LL GET TO THAT CAVEAT IN QUESTION NUMBER THREE, BUT QUESTION NUMBER TWO IS, DO YOU BELIEVE PARKING IS AN ISSUE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITHIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITIES? DO WE AGREE WITH THAT? YES.
UM, NO, UH, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE THERE'RE SHORT TERM RENTALS WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITIES.
I I WOULD SAY THAT I AGREE WITH THIS, THE, NO, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC, UH, THE, UH, PLANT UNIT DEVELOPMENTS HAVE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARDS THAT REQUIRE CERTAIN THINGS TO HAPPEN WITHIN THEIR GATED COMMUNITIES.
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DICTATE THAT, BUT I'M, I'M WILLING TO HEAR OTHER OPINIONS.
I, I'LL JUST EXPAND ON WHAT I SAID BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT SEA PINES AND PALMETTO DUNES GATED COMMUNITIES, THEY HAVE MAJOR ISSUES WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
UM, AND, UH, I RESPECT, UH, POAS AND ARBS, BUT GENERALLY THAT HAS TO DO WITH DESIGN OF HOMES AND SQUARE FOOTAGE OF HOMES AND NOT SO MUCH WITH PARKING.
UM, AND NOT, CERTAINLY NOT IN CERTAIN GATED COMMUNITIES WITH REGARD TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
SO I DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.
PUBLIC, UH, SHOW OF HANDS, DO YOU BELIEVE? OKAY, JUST, JUST ONE PIECE TO ADD TO THAT IS THAT CERTAINLY WITHIN SOME OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITIES, PBD ONE OF THEM, UM, THROUGH THEIR SHORT TERM RENTAL PROCESS, THEY HAVE, UM, A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU MAY ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CARS PARKED, UM, AT ANY PARTICULAR HOMES.
AND, AND THEY ARE VERY STRICT IN THEIR ENFORCEMENT.
SO I DO BELIEVE, UM, THAT THE PUDS HAVE STRUCTURED THEMSELVES TO ALSO REGULATE THE SHORT TERM RENTALS.
AND PERHAPS ONE OF THE REASONS THOSE WHO LIKE TO LOOK AT THE DATA, AND I DO LIKE TO LOOK AT THE DATA, BUT OUR STATISTICS ARE NOT COMPLETE BECAUSE THE PUDS DO NOT REPORT TO US.
RIGHT? SO THERE'S ONE ELEMENT THAT ISN'T INCLUDED IN THE DATA THAT YOU SEE ON OUR, UM, IN OUR STATISTICS FROM THE TOWN GOVERNMENT.
ANOTHER IS THAT SOME OF US, MYSELF INCLUDED, GO DIRECTLY TO THE HOMEOWNER AS KIND AND AS PATIENTLY AS LONG SUFFERING AS WE POSSIBLY CAN BE.
SO THERE ARE A NUMBER THAT AREN'T INCLUDED.
UM, DAVID, I THINK IT IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE TOWN AND THIS COMMITTEE TO REGULATE PARKING WITHIN A PUD, IT IS UP TO THAT PUD TO REGULATE THAT PARKING.
SO I AGREE WITH THE ANSWER, NO.
UM, THE QUESTION TO THE PUBLIC IS, DO YOU AGREE WITH THE ANSWER? NO.
PLEASE SHOW YOUR HANDS IF YOU DON'T AGREE.
SHOW YOUR HANDS AND THE BRIDE AND THE GREEN SIDE SO WE DON'T HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION ON NUMBER TWO.
GO AHEAD TO NUMBER THREE, PLEASE.
UM, DO YOU BELIEVE PARKING IS AN ISSUE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND STAFF SAID YES, SHORT-TERM RENTALS DO CAUSE SOME PARKING ISSUES WHEN POTENTIAL OCCUPANCY LEVELS ARE HIGH AND THAT THE SINGLE FAMILY PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE EXISTING ARE ADEQUATE FOR SINGLE FAMILY USE, UM, BUT ARE NOT CALIBRATED CORRECTLY FOR THOSE SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES THAT ARE ALSO HIGH OCCUPANCY, SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
DOES ANYBODY ON THE DAIS DISAGREE WITH THAT ANSWER? I DISAGREE WITH THE SECOND SENTENCE.
I THINK IT'S TOO COMPLEX TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND.
I AGREE WITH THE FIRST SENTENCE, BUT, UM, SO I, I MADE MY COMMENT.
SO THE QUESTION TO THE PUBLIC IS, DO YOU AGREE WITH THE ANSWER YES.
THAT SINGLE FAMILY OWNS SHORT-TERM RENTAL, SO AND SO FORTH? YES.
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ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.UM, SO THE NEXT SERIES OF QUESTIONS, UM, IS RELATED TO THE MASS AND SCALE OR A FLOOR AREA RATIO.
UM, MR. CHAIR, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YEAH.
UM, I, I SAW A STAFF REPORT, I SAW THESE QUESTIONS IN THERE.
UM, BUT MY QUESTION FOR THE COMMITTEE IS WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO NEXT AFTER WE TALK ABOUT THESE QUESTIONS? BECAUSE I THINK WE OUGHT TO SEPARATE THE ISSUES OF PARKING MASS AND SCALE IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THEM MORE.
SO, I, MY QUESTION THEN IS WHY ARE WE GONNA TALK ABOUT MASS AND SCALE QUESTIONS NOW WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT PARKING FIRST? I CAN'T JUGGLE WITH BOTH HANDS.
I CAN'T JUGGLE THREE BALLS AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, SO THE NEXT SERIES OF QUESTIONS ARE RELATED TO FLOOR AREA RATIO OR MASS AND SCALE FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, AND ITEM ONE IS, DO YOU BELIEVE MASS AND SCALE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS AN ISSUE ISLAND-WIDE? UM, THE STAFF RESPONSE WAS, NO, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE EVERYWHERE, BUT IT DOES BECOME AN ISSUE WHEN LARGE HOMES ARE BUILT ON SMALL LOTS THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND OR LARGE HOMES DO NOT CONFORM TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PATTERN OR CHARACTER COMMENTS FROM THE GUYS.
SO, SO THE SECOND PART OF THE STATEMENT IS CORRECT? NO, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE EVERYWHERE, OF COURSE, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE EVERYWHERE, BUT IT DOES BECOME AN ISSUE IS THE IMPORTANT PART OF THE COMMENT.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, UM, WE RAN INTO A LOVELY COUPLE, UM, AT A FUNCTION ON SUNDAY LAST WEEK.
THE WOMAN DID NOT KNOW WHO, UH, SHE WAS TALKING TO.
SHE DOESN'T KNOW ME FROM ANYONE ELSE, UM, THAT SHE WOULD'VE RANDOMLY SAT NEXT TO, SHE LIVES BEHIND A GATE AND IT JUST HAPPENED TO START TALKING ABOUT HER, HER HOME AND HER PROPERTY.
AND SHE WAS SO NERVOUS AND SO ANXIOUS.
SHE BOUGHT THE LAND NEXT TO HER, SOUNDED VERY FAMILIAR TO MY OWN STORY AND, UM, SHE DID SO BECAUSE SHE WAS PETRIFIED ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF HOME WOULD BE BUILT NEXT TO HER 'CAUSE SHE SAW WHAT WAS BEING BUILT AROUND HER.
AND, AND SO ANYWHERE IT CAN BECOME A PROBLEM.
AND SO EVERYONE ON THE ISLAND IS, UM, CAN BE SUBJECT TO THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY.
YEAH, I THINK THE, I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, MISSY FA, UM, IF THE TOWN WERE TO ADOPT THEM, WOULD NOT APPLY WITHIN THE GATES, BEHIND THE GATES.
WE DON'T AS IT WAS DRAFTED? YES, THAT WAS CORRECT.
UM, SO I GUESS IT'S, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT AN ISLAND WIDE, BUT IT COULD BECOME I AN ISSUE.
UM, NANCY, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE IT SEEMS SORT OF SELF-EVIDENT, SO I'M NOT GONNA ASK IT IF THE PUBLIC, LET'S GO TO NUMBER FIVE.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT MASS AND SCALE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS AN ISSUE WITHIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITIES? UM, STAFF'S RESPONSE WAS NO.
GENERALLY THE LOT SIZE AND SCALE OF HOMES ARE APPROPRIATELY SIZED IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
COMMENTS? OH, UM, I, I THINK WE NEED THAT CAVEAT ABOUT STR AGAIN.
DO YOU AGREE WITH THE ANSWER? NO.
UM, THAT MASS SCALE OF SINGLE FAMILY OWNED IS AN ISLAND-WIDE ISSUE.
I WANNA ASK NEXT QUESTION, IF I MAY, WHEN SOMEBODY'S PUTTING IN TWO NEW, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF IT'S AN STR OR NOT? WE DON'T THAT, THAT KEEPS BEING ME QUALIFIER AND I JUST HAVE THAT QUESTION.
UM, IS THERE A RAISED HAND TO AGREE ON THAT ANSWER? NO, IT'S COMPLICATED.
UM, OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT.
UH, DO YOU BELIEVE MASS AND SCALE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS AN ISSUE FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT OR EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT STAFF? SAID BOTH.
UM, NEWER SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AND NEW OR REDEVELOPMENTS ON EXISTING LOTS TEND TO HAVE HIGHER FLOOR AREA RATIOS, BUT NEW DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT CAN BE ADDRESSED BY CODE CHANGES.
I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, EXCEPT FOR I THINK YOU NEED TO LIMIT THAT TO THE LAND MANAGEMENT CODE AND NOT THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
WELL, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE THAT CAN APPLY AND
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IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS.SO YOU'VE GOT TO, UH, DEFINE CODE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS HERE? I AGREE WITH THIS, UH, CONCLUSION.
UM, ASK THE PUBLIC, UH, DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS, THE ANSWER BOTH REGARDING THIS MATTER? SHOW OF HANDS.
SORRY, CAN YOU, CAN YOU PUT IT ON THE SCREEN? WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT ON THE SCREEN.
I I THINK THE CHAIR WAS REFERRING TO THE NUMBERING SYSTEM IN THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM THE NUMBERING SYSTEM ON THE SCREEN.
THAT MAY BE SOME SOURCE OF CONFUSION.
OKAY, WELL THIS IS THE LOADED ONE.
DO YOU BELIEVE MASS AND SCALE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES SHOULD BE UNIFORM STANDARD APPLIED TO ISLAND WIDE OR CALIBRATED BY NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE OR ZONING DISTRICT? UM, AND STAFF'S RESPONSE IS THAT IT SHOULD BE CALIBRATED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE OR WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE EXISTING OR DESIRED DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS.
UM, WE DO HAVE EXISTING FLOOR AREA RATIOS WITHIN THREE OVERLAY DISTRICTS, SO FOUR SPEECH VOLLEY FIELD AND HOLIDAY HOMES.
AND THEN STAFF HAS ALSO BEEN DOING RESEARCH AS WE'VE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED ON FAR DATA AND ANALYSIS WITHIN THE ISLANDS, BEACH NEIGHBORHOODS, JONESVILLE AND MITCHELLVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS AS WELL.
SO, UM, THIS QUESTION IS REALLY TO GET AT, UM, HOW WE MIGHT, UH, CREATE SOME SOLUTIONS.
UM, AND IS IT A UNIFORM APPLICATION OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S CALIBRATED? AND IF IT IS CALIBRATED, THEN WHERE ARE WE GONNA FOCUS? WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, WOULD WE APPLY THIS? OKAY.
DOES ANYONE DISAGREE WITH THIS? SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT I THINK IS A, UH, QUESTION THAT DE DESERVES A LOT MORE THOUGHT.
UM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT TODAY'S, UM, SITUATION IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DISTINCTION THAT REALLY RELATES TO THIS MASS AND SCALE AND ZONING DISTRICTS TODAY.
SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE AND DISTRICT PLANS, THAT'S DIFFERENT AND THAT DISTURBS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT AND BUILT INTO, RIGHT? SO THAT'S BOTHERSOME.
AND THERE'S A LOT ABOUT DISTRICT PLANS THAT I FIND BOTHERSOME.
AND SO I'VE SAID THIS SEVERAL TIMES AND PEOPLE KNOW THAT, AND I'LL BE WATCHING AND PAYING VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT HAPPENS TO NEIGHBORHOODS WITH REGARD TO DISTRICT PLANS.
UM, SO SHOULD THERE BE A UNIFORM STANDARD APPLIED ISLAND WIDE? THERE ARE, UM, I I, THIS IS JUST ONE THAT I, I REALLY NEED A LOT MORE TIME TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AROUND.
THERE ARE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY PROTECTION WHATSOEVER.
I THINK YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT BECAUSE ZONING ISN'T DONE NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU'RE, YOU USED THE WORD NEIGHBORHOOD HERE, SO I THINK IT'S MUCH MORE GRANULAR THAN ZONING.
SO THAT WAS JUST TO, WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT MAY BE CALIBRATED, BUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN A UNIFORM STANDARD, IS IT GONNA BE CALIBRATED WITHIN THESE EXISTING OVERLAY AREAS OR WITHIN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD GEOGRAPHIES? UM, NEIGHBORHOOD TYPES, SUBDIVISION LEVEL, SO THOSE AREAS.
UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S A FIRST, IT'S ANSWERING THAT FIRST QUESTION AND THEN BASED ON THAT WE CAN DIVE INTO APPLICATION OF WHAT THOSE AREAS ARE.
UM, IF, IF THE ANSWER IS THAT IT'S NOT A UNIFORM APPLICATION ISLAND WIDE.
UM, YOU ASKED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY TO THIS FAR AMENDMENTS.
WHERE WILL FAR BE APPLIED EXISTING OVERLAY DISTRICTS OR OTHER LOCATIONS? ISLAND WIDE OR ONLY IN SPECIFIC AREAS AT THIS TIME? UM, I'M, I'M GOING TO STEP OUT AND SAY THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT ISLAND WIDE AT THIS TIME, AS A MATTER OF FACT.
UM, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN THIS REGARD.
UM, BUT I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE REST OF, I AM TROUBLED BY ISLAND WIDE RULES, RESTRICTIONS, ORDINANCES, AND SO FORTH.
AS A QUICK FIX, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW EACH ONE OF THESE AFFECTS OTHER ORDINANCES, OTHER LAWS, OTHER USES THAT ARE UNDERGOING ONGOING.
AND SO I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT IN TERMS OF AN ISLAND WIDE
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RESPONSE HERE.ARE WE STILL DEALING WITH QUESTION FOUR? IS THERE A NEW QUESTION THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MOVED ON.
WE GOT AN ANSWER ON QUESTION FOUR.
AND SO WHAT'S THE QUESTION THAT YOU WERE ADDRESSING? 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT.
UM, WELL, I, I THINK WE ARE, WE ARE MOVING INTO THE AREA WHERE WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE TWO ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BEFORE US IN NOVEMBER AND SO ON THE, UH, FAR SITUATION AND THE UH, UM, PARKING SITUATION.
UM, SO ARE, ARE YOU ASKING FOR WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO ABOUT THESE? YES, I, I, I THINK YES, WE, WE ARE, UH, BEING ASKED BY THE, THE PUBLIC AT LEAST SOME PORTIONS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE A FAR SITUATION IN PARTICULAR, IN MY CASE BECAUSE IT'S IN MY WARD IN THE FOREST BEACH AREA.
UH, BUT ALSO THE, THE PARKING ISSUE REGARDING STR.
SO I THINK BASED ON THE QUE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS REGARDING IF WE ARE ABLE TO TODAY TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS REGARDING AN FAR, UM, IN MY AREA, UH, PARTICULARLY ENFORCE BEACH AND HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND PARKING, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR STR.
IN THAT CASE, I MOVE, RECOMMEND THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL AMEND SECTION 16 DASH THREE DASH 1 0 6 8 4 D FOR THE FOREST BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER OVERLAY DISTRICT TO REDUCE THE FLOOR AREA RATIO FROM 0.55 TO 0.45, AND THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE BE REDUCED FROM 5,000 SQUARE FEET TO 4,500 SQUARE FEET SO THAT THE LANGUAGE IN THE FIRST SENTENCE READS AS FOLLOWS.
THE MAXIMUM GROSS FLOOR AREA IS LIMITED TO 0.45 TIMES THE AREA OF THE LOT CONTAINING A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 4,500 SQUARE FEET.
AND I HAVE GIVEN A COPY OF THIS TO THE CLERK EXCEPT FOR I RECOGNIZE I HAD A TYPO IN THAT LAST SENTENCE, SO IT SHOULD BE 0.45 IN BOTH PLACES.
UM, AND WAS THERE A REDUCTION IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IN YOUR MOTION? YES, CORRECT.
FROM 5,000 TO 4,500 TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE FRACTIONAL, UM, NUMBERS? YEAH, I, I, I KNOW THAT WE SENT A LETTER OUT TO THE APPROPRIATE PARTIES IN FOR SPEECH, UH, ADDRESSING THE 0.45, BUT NOT THE 5,000.
UH, I HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER BY MY CONSTITUENTS WHO I'VE BEEN TALKING TO.
SO I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF REDUCING THE, UH, THE 5,000 TO 4,500, BUT I AM IN FAVOR OF REDUCING THE 0.0 2.045.
SO I WOULD MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION TO EXCLUDE THE REDUCTION OF, UH, THE 5,000 SQUARE FEET OR 5,500 TO 5,000.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? I WOULD SECOND THAT THE, THERE'S BEEN NO INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT, AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WHEN I SECONDED THE PRIMARY MOTION.
CHAIR, I KNOW WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY HERE.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE MOTION.
I I THINK WE NEED A CLARIFICATION THAT I THINK ALL THIS COMMITTEE CAN DO IS RECOMMEND THAT TO THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL AND THAT'S WHAT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS, IT IS NOT CHANGING THE RULES.
ARE WE IN DISCUSSION? HAVE WE HAD A, A FIRST AND A SECOND? YES, WE DID HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND ON THE AMENDMENT.
AND SO THIS DISCUSSION GOING BACK, I JUST WANNA MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT THIS MOTION AND ALL OF THIS OTHER DISCUSSION THAT APPARENTLY HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE I WAS NOT A PARTY OF A PARTY TO.
AND SO THEREFORE THIS SEPARATING OUT INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES WHEN THIS IS AN ISLAND WIDE ISSUE, LEAVES, UM, SOME COMMUNITIES WITH SUBSTANTIAL, UM, CONCERNS AND LONGSTANDING PROBLEMS OUT IN THE COURT.
NO, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ON THIS ISSUE, BUT I'M JUST MAKING IT PERFECTLY CLEAR AND ON THE RECORD THAT ALL OF THIS BEHIND THIS LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN MY MIND OF CONVERSATION, THIS COMMITTEE MEMBER, UH, WAS NOT A PARTY TO, I CALLED YOU YESTERDAY AND I DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE.
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YES, WE ARE OPEN TO A PARTICULAR MOTION TO AMEND TO INCLUDE JUST THE REDUCTION OF 0.5, 0.5 0.5 TO 0.45 ALSO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND NOT INCLUDE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.SO I STILL YOU WANT LOUD NOW, BUT OKAY.
SO YOUR NAME, MY NAME IS PATRICIA COURTNEY.
WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT ADJUSTING FLOOR RATIO AND THEN THE PRIOR QUESTION I ASKED ABOUT STR.
SO I THINK AT LEAST THE FLOOR RATIO GETS THE FACT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP, I'LL CALL 'EM MCMANSIONS FOR BETTER LACK OF BETTER WORDS.
WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP MCMANSIONS DOWN, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NOT IN THIS FLOOR AREA RATIO THAT WE SAW, AT LEAST IN PALMETTO DUNES IS THE ISSUE IS YOU'RE STILL ALLOWING SOMEBODY TO BUILD, IF IT'S 4,500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE AND THEY CAN CHOOSE TO STILL PUT EIGHT BEDROOMS IN THE HOUSE, YOUR FLOOR AVERAGE RATIO DOES NOT GO INTO THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. AND MAYBE WE'RE, WE SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING ALONG LIKE AN IN-LAW, MEANING THE INS LIKE YOU DO TO NOT A MOTHER-IN-LAW, UM, WHERE A HOUSE THAT IS BEING BUILT, AND THIS COVERS, WHETHER IT'S LONG-TERM RENTAL, SECONDARY HOME, ANYTHING, A HOUSE THAT IS BEING BUILT FOR THE FUTURE THAT WILL HAVE MORE THAN X AMOUNT OF BEDROOMS MUST HAVE A RESIDENT LIKE A, LIKE A IN DOES OR BED AND BREAKFAST DOES, OR A HOTEL DOES 24 7 ON SITE TO CONTROL SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS. I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE BY HAVING THE MCMANSIONS WITH THE 10 BEDROOMS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE, I THINK.
AND, AND IF WE START LOOKING AT PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE AN IN-LAW OVER CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BEDROOMS REQUIRES A RESIDENTIAL IN PLACE PERSON THAT MIGHT CURE SOME OF OUR PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE MIGHT ALSO LOOK AT DOING WHEN WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, AND TO MARRY YOU HELPED US WITH THIS, WITH, IT WAS A BUSINESS FIRST RESIDENCE WITH THE, UM, DRIVING RANGE, BUT OTHER AREAS ASKED FOR A VARIANCE AND A PUBLIC HEARING WHEN SOMETHING IS BEING BUILT OVER A PARTICULAR SIZE AND ALL THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN LIKE A THOUSAND FEET GET A NOTICE OF WHEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS GOING ON, THIS WOULD WORK, RIGHT? FOR WHAT I'M HEARING WITH HICKORY CO, THEY GET A NOTICE, THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING, AND YOU GET THEIR FEEDBACK.
SO YOU GET THAT PARTICULAR ONE PLOT THAT HAD ONE HOUSE THAT'S NOW GETTING 10 HOUSES THAT ARE ALL COMING UP, SEVEN BEDROOMS WHERE THE AREA CAN ONLY REALLY HOLD FOUR BEDROOMS. YOU'RE NOW GETTING THE, THE CONSTITUENTS INVOLVED IN HELPING THE DISCUSSION OF COULD IT REALLY HOLD THE SEVEN HOUSES WITH SEVEN BEDROOMS, OR MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE FIVE HOUSES WITH FOUR BEDROOMS. AND THERE'S A COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN IT.
WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE JUST ONE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ANSWER TO IT.
PLEASE, MELINDA, AND, AND PLEASE, UH, SPEAK TO THIS PARTICULAR MOTION.
MELINDA TANNER POTO POTO HALL.
UM, HOW DID WE MOVE FROM TALKING ABOUT GENERAL QUESTIONS TO A MOTION ABOUT A SPECIFIC AREA? I LITERALLY DON'T GET IT.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER AREAS? OTHER AREAS? SO YOU'RE MAKING A SPECIAL CALL FOR YOUR CONSTITUENCIES WITHOUT ALLOWING OTHER PEOPLE TO DO THAT AS WELL OR BE PREPARED FOR IT.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE PROCESS ISN'T WORKING.
UM, AND WHERE'S THE PUBLIC NOTICE? THANK YOU.
I'M NOT EXCLUDING OTHER CONVERSATIONS.
UM, I DO AGREE ON THE PUBLIC NOTICE.
UM, WE NEED, THERE NEEDS TO BE A NOTICE TO THE PEOPLE THAT THIS IS GOING ON.
I JUST HAPPEN TO LUCKILY FIND OUT ABOUT THIS.
UM, AND SO WHEN IT'S QUESTIONED WHY THERE AREN'T RESIDENTS HERE SUPPORTING THESE ISSUES WHILE THERE'S ONLY DEVELOPERS, IT'S BECAUSE THE PUB, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
WE NEED, WE DO NEED PUBLIC NOTICE.
UM, BUT TO ADDRESS THIS SP SPECIFIC, UM, ISSUE, UM, AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE, ARE WE BACK AT THE SAME POINT WE WERE WHILE WHY WE WERE FIGHTING THIS BEFORE? DO WE KNOW, LIKE, I'M GLAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE AREA AT A TIME, BUT DO WE KNOW WHETHER THIS INCLUDES HEATED OR UNHEATED SPACE? DO WE KNOW WHETHER THIS INCLUDES SHEDS COVERAGE,
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UM, PLACES, UM, DOES IT INCLUDE THE SCREEN IMPORT? SO THESE WERE THE QUESTIONS WE WANTED TO GET THE DETAILS TO LAST TIME.AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THOSE DETAILS, MAYBE MISTY DOES HAVE THOSE DETAILS, BUT WE'RE STILL NOT HEARING THEM.
SO IF WE COULD HEAR THOSE DETAILS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
NOTHING IS CHANGING WITHIN THE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY A ADOPTED BY THE FOREST BEACH AREA.
THE ONLY THING THAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN THIS PARTICULAR MOTION IS THE REDUCTION OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE FA BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS STILL A QUESTION LAST TIME.
WHAT DOES THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE INCLUDE? DOES IT INCLUDE SHEDS? DOES IT INCLUDE, UH, SCREEN AND PORCHES? REMEMBER WE HAD WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE FOREST SPEECH OWNERS ASSOCIATION, THE COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY ADOPTED BACK IN THE SEVENTIES HASN'T CHANGED.
SO THOSE ARE JUST THINGS AS WE LOOK AT THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW, THOSE ARE THE DETAILS THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW SO WE CAN HELP YOU GUYS MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS.
HELLO, UH, JACK DAILEY FOR SPEECH.
WE HAD BEEN FOLLOWING THIS PROCESS, WE LEARNED ABOUT IT.
MISSY WAS NICE ENOUGH TO MEET WITH US.
UH, WE GOT UP OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND CAME TO TOWN TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS AND JUST HAVE OUR DIFFERENT FEELINGS HURT ON THIS.
SO YOU HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND ADVOCATE FOR YOURSELF.
SO MISSY HAD A MEETING WITH US, THEN SHE SENT US A LONG HISTORY OF THE DIFFERENT MOTIONS.
WE DIDN'T KNOW IT HAD GONE DOWN TO THREE, TWO, THEN BACK TO FOUR OR FIVE THERE.
IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS A CAP AND THERE WASN'T.
SO WE HAD A MEETING AND ALL OF OUR BOARD WAS THERE AND PRETTY MUCH ALL OF OUR BOARD.
AND, UM, WE AGREED THAT, UM, 0.45 WAS REASONABLE.
WE AGREED ON A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT CAP, WHICH WAS SOMETHING FROM OUR OVERLAY DISTRICT ALREADY.
UM, THERE WAS, THERE WAS NOT CERTAIN THAT THERE WAS A CAP IN THERE THE WAY WE READ THE SUMMARY, BUT WE FELT LIKE WE SHOULD PUT THAT IN THERE.
WE ALSO FELT LIKE THERE SHOULD BE A DELAYED EFFECTIVE DATE OR A GRANDFATHERING IN FOR PERHAPS SOMEONE WHO JUST BOUGHT A LOT OR A HOUSE AND THAT WAS PREDICATED ON A 0.55 FAR.
AND UH, SUDDENLY THEY ARE IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, WHAT WORKS EFFECTIVE DATE GRANDFATHERING, HOW GRANDFATHERING REALLY WORKS IN THOSE KIND OF SITUATIONS.
BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS WE CAME UP WITH.
AND WE HAD DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT ASPECTS DISAGREE, BUT WE CAME TOGETHER ON THOSE.
AND, UM, SO THAT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION OF, OF THOSE THREE ITEMS WHERE WE WERE.
AND, UH, WE THANK MISSY FOR HELPING US IN THE PROCESS AND EXPLAINING A LOT OF THINGS, ESPECIALLY THE DETAILS OF WHAT'S INCLUDED AND WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED.
UM, WHEN THIS COMMITTEE MET ON NOVEMBER 9TH, THESE SAME DISCUSSIONS WERE TAKEN UP BUT NO MOTION WAS TAKEN.
SO WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO IS TAKE ACTION ON THOSE MOTIONS THAT WERE MADE BACK IN NOVEMBER.
IF WE AREN'T PREPARED TO DO THAT TODAY, THEN WE'LL SIMPLY POSTPONE THIS CONVERSATION.
IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FAR IN THE FOUR SPEECH AREA AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE STR PARKING ISSUE THAT, UM, MS. BRYSON SUGGESTED BACK IN NOVEMBER AND ALSO IN OCTOBER.
SO MISSY, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE.
UM, WE DID REACH OUT TO THE OTHER, UM, UH, POAS WITHIN FOREST SPEECH AND UM, AND DID HEAR BACK FROM, FROM THE OTHER TWO VERBALLY.
UM, AND, UH, AND ONE OF 'EM WAS AMENABLE TO A 0.45 REDUCTION AND THE OTHER ONE HAD MORE CONCERNS ABOUT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY THAT WERE HIGHER PRIORITIES THAN ADJUSTING THE FAR.
UM, WE ALSO MET WITH FOLLY FIELD AND THEY WERE COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR EXISTING OVERLAY REGULATIONS AND HAVE NOT HEARD THAT HOLIDAY HOMES, UH, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THEIR OVERLAY DISTRICT AS WELL.
DAVID, WE HAVE MOTION ON THE TABLE AND WE'VE HAD PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
THE, THE MOTION THAT TO AMEND THE MOTION WAS THE REDUCTION OF 0.55 TO 0.45 IN THE FOREST BEACH AREA AND REMAINING SILENT ON THE REDUCTION OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT.
THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDING THE MOTION.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF HOLLY FIELD IS IN AGREEMENT.
DID I SAY FOLLY FIELD? MY OR SPEECH IS WHAT I DID MEAN TO SAY.
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IS THE, THE BROADER MOTION IS TO REDUCE THE FAR IN THE FOREST BEACH AREA FROM 0.55 TO 0.45.THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
NOW, UM, I DON'T WANT, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE AFFECTED AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I MEAN, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, PLEASE SPEAK UP.
SO ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE FLOOR AREA RATIO?
UM, I HAD A MOTION TO REDUCE, UM, THE FAR, UH, IN FOLLY FIELD NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND SO I'M GONNA PUT THAT MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND SEE IF THERE'S, UM, SUPPORT FOR IT, UM, AND COMMENTS ABOUT IT.
UM, AND THEN I HAD A SEPARATE MOTION ABOUT OTHER AREAS, BUT I WANNA WAIT UNTIL WE GET BACK TO THE QUICK FIX LIST
SO, UM, WITH THAT, HAVING SAID, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL AMEND SECTION 16 DASH THREE DASH 1 0 6 I FOUR E FOR THE FOLLY FIELD NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER OVERLAY DISTRICT TO REDUCE THE FLOOR AREA RATIO FROM 0.45 TO 0.32 AND THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE BE REDUCED FROM 4,500 TO 4,000 SQUARE FEET SO THAT THE LANGUAGE IN THE FIRST SENTENCE READS AS FOLLOWS.
THE MAXIMUM GROSS FLOOR AREA IS LIMITED TO 0.32 TIMES THE AREA OF THE LOT CONTAINING A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 4,000 SQUARE FEET.
THIS WAS ANOTHER AREA THAT WE IDENTIFIED AS MEETING A QUICK FIX.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? WELL, CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE THERE'S, YOU MAY.
IS THIS AN AREA YOU, IN YOUR STATEMENT JUST BEFORE YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD REACHED OUT TO FOLLY FIELD IS, HAVE YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESIDENT AND THE BOARD AT FOLEY FIELD? YES.
AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE? YES.
AND I ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
UM, THEY, THEY DO NOT WANT TO LOSE THEIR FAR, BUT THEY'RE OKAY WITH REDUCING IT.
BUT I THINK IF WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, WE COULD ASK THE REPRESENTATIVE DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY.
I'M WILLING TO SECOND YOUR MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE DIOCESE IN THIS MATTER? UH, SARAH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND ADDRESS THIS MATTER? HOW ARE YOU
UH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO BRING BACK TO OUR MEMBERSHIP.
THE ONE THING THAT OUR MEMBERSHIP DIDN'T WANNA LOSE WAS THE CAP.
SO IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS THERE WAS A, UH, PROPOSAL THAT WE WOULD LOSE THE, THE CAP.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A CAP OF 4,500 SQUARE FEET THAT'S CRITICAL TO OUR AREA.
SO WE DEFINITELY DO NOT WANNA LOSE THAT.
I WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO OUR MEMBERSHIP.
WE'RE HAVING THE A GM UH, AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, I CAN BRING IT TO THE MEMBERSHIP AND ASK THE MEMBERSHIP TO VOTE ON 0.32 AND COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE.
IT WOULD BE YOUR DESIRE THAT WE HOLD OFF UNTIL A FOLLOW ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE WE PROCEED.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY FURTHER ISSUES ON FAR WELL, YES I WOULD
UM, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT, UH, WELL MISSING.
YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD ALSO REACHED OUT TO HOLIDAY HOMES AND THAT YOU HAD NOT HEARD BACK FROM THEM WITH REGARD TO ANYTHING ELSE.
HAS THERE BEEN OTHER DISCUSSION WITH HOLIDAY HOMES? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE PREPARED WITH, WITH HOLIDAY HOMES? OKAY.
UM, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO, HI SEAN, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING WITH REGARD TO HOLIDAY HOMES? WELL, NO.
NO, BUT SEAN CALL A SECOND JUMP IN STAFF HAS DONE A LOT OF, UM, ASSESSMENT OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT MISSY HAD MENTIONED.
AND I THINK MAYBE RATHER THAN GO THROUGH COMMUNITY, EACH COMMUNITY HERE BY REFERENDUM, UM, IF WE CAN BRING THAT ASSESSMENT TO YOU TO SHOW YOU THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON FLUOR AIR RATIO, UM, AND THEN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, UH, GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS THAT, UM, OR IN THOSE COMMUNITIES KNOW THAT BE DISCUSSED AT AN UPCOMING MEETING.
I THINK HAVING THAT WOULD BE, WOULD BE HELPFUL.
EVEN THE POINT, THE FOLLY FIELD NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THE 0.45 TO 0.32, I'D WANT THE COMMITTEE TO HAVE THE BENEFIT TO KNOW EXISTING CONDITION,
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THE, UM, WHAT THE FAR IS BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN BUILT, UM, OVER TIME HERE RECENTLY TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.UM, BECAUSE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING OUT HERE ARE VERY CLEAR, THANK YOU FOR, FOR THAT.
UM, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE, UM, THE BENEFIT OF THE, OF THE DATA WE'VE HEARD IT, UM, TO BASE THAT DECISION ON.
JUST FOLLOWING UP TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, UM, FOR THOSE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE NHOA WHO YOU WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO REACH OUT TO, FOR INSTANCE, THE JONESVILLE AREA OR THE BRADLEY CIRCLE AREA OR BRADLEY BEACH AREA.
UM, THERE'S NO ONE TO COORDINATE WITH AND THEREFORE, AND THESE OTHER AREAS HAVE OVERLAY DISTRICTS.
I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND AND SUGGEST THAT, UM, THERE'S A DISCUSSION THAT'S BEGUN, UM, TO, TO OUTLINE WHAT AN OVERLAY DISTRICT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THOSE AREAS AND GET COMMUNITY INPUT FOR THOSE, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS TO SEE WHAT PROTECTIONS COULD BE PUT PUT IN PLACE AND WHAT THE, UM, WHAT'S BEST TO PRESERVE THE COMMUNITIES, UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITIES AND TO LOOK WHAT'S BEST TO CONTAIN, UM, ESCALATING GROWTH, BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY CHARACTER.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WILL SATISFY, UM, THE FOLKS WHO CURRENTLY LIVE THERE AND WHAT PLANS, UM, THEY MIGHT HAVE.
THERE'S NOTHING ON THE TABLE ON THE DIETS FOR US TO VOTE ON AT THIS POINT.
STAFF HAS OFFERED TO COME BACK TO THE DETAILED PRESENTATION ON THE ISSUE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON TOO, BUT I WOULD LIKE, UM, THOSE AREAS WITHOUT THOSE HOAS.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA ON RECORD TODAY.
PLEASE DO, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I WOULD LIKE, IF WE'RE GONNA COME BACK WITH MORE RESEARCH AND WE HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING BEACH COMMUNITIES, JONESVILLE AREA AND MITCHELLVILLE, I WOULD LIKE TO GET CONFIRMATION.
THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THE ISLAND, THE BEACH COMMUNITIES.
UM, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE GONNA COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE CONFIRMATION THAT THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE THAT ADDITIONAL FAR RESEARCH.
AND I CAN SAY THAT, UM, WE'VE DONE A MUCH DEEPER DIVE IN THE DATASET AND HAVE A, A LOT MORE, UH, GRANULAR DETAIL ON FAR, EVEN SUBDIVISION BY SUBDIVISION WITHIN BROADER GEOGRAPHIES THAT WILL BE REALLY BENEFICIAL TO DIRECT THIS DISCUSSION AND FIND SOLUTIONS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE.
AND PART OF THAT IS THE STAFF REACHING OUT TO RESIDENTS IN THESE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES TO LET THEM KNOW THIS IS ONGOING.
THANK YOU, MS. E UH, MR. CHAIR.
THAT ONE THING I WOULD ASK WHEN YOU, UH, PROVIDE US WITH YOUR RESEARCH IS A COPY OF SUBDIVISION PLATTS SO THAT WE CAN SEE LOT SIZES.
THE SECOND ITEM THAT WE ADDRESSED IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING WAS THE PARKING ISSUE.
UM, AND MS. BRYSON BROUGHT UP, UH, THE IDEA THAT A, UH, PARKING, UH, STANDARD BE, UH, FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS BE A PART OF THE PERMIT.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AT THE OCTOBER END NOVEMBER MEETING
I HAVE PROVIDED A COPY TO THE TOWN CLERK AND I'VE SENT COPIES INDIVIDUALLY, NOT AS A GROUP TO EACH COMMITTEE MEMBER
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL AMEND SECTION 10 DASH TWO DASH 50 D OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON NET ISLAND, AS SHOWN ON THE ATTACHED COPY OF THE SECTION WITH AMENDED LANGUAGE SHOWN BY TRACKING.
AND THANK YOU THE CLERK FOR SHOWING THIS.
THE, UM, THE RECOMMENDED PARKING SPACES MUST COMPLY WITH THE CHART SET OUT BELOW IN THE SUBSECTION TWO.
UM, THAT LIST, UH, FOUND IN I UNDER SUBSECTION TWO WAS THE LIST APPROVED BY THIS COMMITTEE, UM, AND APPROVED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL ON A SEVEN OH VOTE.
WHAT I DID WAS JUST COLLAPSE, UM, THE CHARTS, UM, AND THAT THAT WASN'T A PART OF THE LONG MOTION, THE EXPLANATION.
UM, SO THAT, UM, FOUR OR 5, 6, 7 AND EIGHT BEDROOMS, UH, BASED ON THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
UM, AND THEN IT, UH, IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE, UM, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE QUESTION, UM, AT LEAST 75% OF THE AREAS WERE PARKING OF MORE THAN FOUR VEHICLES MUST BE IMPROVED WITH AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE PROVIDED.
HOWEVER, NO MORE THAN 10% OF THE TOTAL OF THE FRONT SIDE AND REAR YARDS OF THE PREMISES MAY BE USED FOR PARKING SPACES.
AND THAT IS TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN ABOUT FOLKS PARKING ALL OVER THE FRONT YARD OR SIDE YARD IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AND THIS, UM, REGULATIONS APPLY DURING THE LEASE AND PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT.
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ONE IS, UM, ONLY ADDRESSING IT TO, UH, FOUR BEDROOMS, UP TO EIGHT BEDROOMS. UM, SO THAT 2 1, 2 AND THREE BEDROOMS ARE NOT INCLUDED.UM, AND ALSO ADDRESSING, UM, THE, UH, THE TIME AT WHICH THE COMPLIANCE IS REQUIRED, UH, THE PERCENTAGE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, PERCENTAGE OF THE PARKING, WHICH MUST BE IMPERVIOUS, AND, UH, ALSO, UH, MEANING THAT YOU DON'T PARK ALL OVER THE YARD.
SO THAT'S MY MOTION TO, UH, MAKE THAT AMENDMENT TO SECTION 10 DASH TWO 50 D OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE DIOCESE FOR DISCUSSION.
THE THOUGHTS,
UH, AND SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ITS BREADTH.
I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL PARKING AND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ABUSES IN SOME SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES.
UM, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXTENT OF IT.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, PATSY.
THESE, THESE, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE FIGURES AND, UM, PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENTS CAME FROM THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS PRESENTED WITH REGARD FROM THE PARKING GO-ROUND A FEW MONTHS AGO IN AUGUST.
SO IT CAME FROM THAT DATA, THIS DIRECTLY FROM THAT.
SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH AND, UM, THROUGH THEIR GOOD WORK, UM, PRESENTED TO US AND WAS ACTUALLY VOTED ON SEVEN ZERO, UM, HAVING GONE FIRST THROUGH, I BELIEVE PLANNING COMMISSION THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE, UM, UNANIMOUSLY AND ALSO THROUGH TOWN COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY.
SO THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN CONSISTENT.
THE ONLY CONCERN WHETHER A NUMBER CONCERNS, BUT THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT I HAVE, UM, AND I, AND I LEFT YOU A MESSAGE 'CAUSE I DID RECEIVE YOUR EMAIL ON THIS, UM, IS THAT THE 10%, FOR THOSE OF Y'ALL WHO DON'T KNOW, SOME OF THE, UM, LOT SIZES THAT, UM, THAT ARE BUILT ON ARE ONLY 40, 40 FEET WIDE.
SO IF YOU HAVE A DOUBLE DRIVEWAY GOING IN, YOU'RE 20 FEET MINIMALLY GOING IN, AND SO THAT 10% BECOMES PROBLEMATIC.
AND I SAY THAT VERY MUCH ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE DO NOT WANT PEOPLE PARKING ALL OVER THE FRONT AND SIDES OF THE PROPERTIES.
SO, UM, I DUNNO WHAT THE FIX TO THAT IS, BUT THE 10% DOESN'T WORK.
I I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THIS DIRECTION.
UM, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS THOUGH.
UM, DO I RECALL THAT THIS, THIS WOULD NOT APPLY TO PDS OR IT WOULD APPLY TO PDS.
THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT PARKING EITHER BEING IN THE PDS OR NOT BEING IN THE PDS.
WELL, WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN HERE IS APPLICABLE TO THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.
AND SO IT APPLIES TO ALL SHORT-TERM RENTALS ISLAND WIDE.
SO IT WOULD APPLY TO THE PUDS THAT ARE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
UM, AND I, AND WHILE THE CALIBRATION OF PARKING WAS INCLUDED IN AN AMENDMENT SET, THAT WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE LMO AND IT WAS NOT APPLIED IN THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.
SO, UM, IN THIS APPLICATION, UM, STAFF HASN'T REVIEWED THIS PARTICULAR LANGUAGE, UH, MR. CHAIR.
I SHARED IT WITH THE TOWN MANAGER LAST THURSDAY.
UM, AND AFTER THAT DISCUSSION, MADE SOME REVISIONS WITH REGARD TO THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND SENT HIM THOSE REVISIONS.
SO THE TOWN MANAGER WAS FURNISHED WITH THIS, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS SUNDAY OR MONDAY
AND MY SECOND COMMENT WOULD BE THAT, UM, THE 75% AND THE 10% ARE PERHAPS VERY ACCURATE, BUT I HAVE NO IDEA AT THIS MOMENT HOW VETTED THEY ARE AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WORK OR DON'T WORK.
UM, SO GENERALLY I BELIEVE THE MOTION IS THAT I'M, I'M NOT PARAPHRASING, UH, COUNCILMAN BRYSON,
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BUT GENERALLY, UM, THE MOTION IS TO ADDRESS SHORT-TERM ADDRESS PARKING UNDER THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT AND NOT THE LMO.SO THE LMO PARKING CALIBRATION THAT WE BROUGHT YOU FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WE, WE WOULDN'T TOUCH THE LMO, BUT IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH SHORT TERM RENTAL.
SO I THINK IF THAT'S THE MOTION WITH THIS AS A GUIDE THAT WE CAN VET WITH OUR CODE WRITER AND BRING BACK TO YOU A FINAL VERSION AND MAYBE EXACTLY LIKE THIS, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT BRING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET DIRECTION AND I THINK THE DIRECTION IS TO, TO, TO WORK, TO ADDRESS THIS IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL.
I'M, I'M IN SUPPORT OF MOVING IT FORWARD, BUT NOT UNDER THE SPECIFICS THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY.
SO IF YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD FOR VETTING, SO THAT'S FINE.
'CAUSE I'M, I'M, I'M SURE THERE'S PEOPLE BEHIND ME THAT WANNA HAVE THE BENEFIT TO UNDERSTAND IT AND THEN SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS.
IT'S BEFORE RECOMMENDED AGAINST IIII THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET PUD INPUT FEEDBACK ON THIS BECAUSE IT APPLIES A HUNDRED PERCENT OVER THE BOARD, BUT HAVING, SO WOULD YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE WHAT HE'S SAYING? UM, CAN YOU BRING IT BACK NEXT WEEK AND ASK, WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
I THINK IT'S TIME WE DID SOMETHING.
UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN FULL SINCE AUGUST, SO I'M SORRY CHERYL, MY FRUSTRATION, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE FACTS.
HE ADOPTED THIS WITH REGARD TO THE NUMBER OF SPACES PER BEDROOM IN AUGUST.
UM, IT WAS A THREE TO ONE VOTE.
I REMEMBER MR. STANFORD WAS ABOUT TO LEAVE AND HE DIDN'T GET TO SEE THE EXACT LANGUAGE.
SO, BUT IT WAS UNANIMOUS BEFORE THE TOWN COUNCIL.
UM, SO I, I'D ONLY BE WILLING TO, TO THINK ABOUT IT IF WE CAN HAVE IT AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND I WANNA KNOW HOW SOON THAT CAN HAPPEN BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE, I WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THE TIMEFRAME.
AS I MENTIONED, OUR CODE WRITER, WE JUST SIGNED THE CONTRACT.
WELL, ALL DUE RESPECT A, A CODE WRITER IF THEY'RE GONNA IMPROVE THE WAY THIS WAS DONE, IT'S ONLY GONNA BE WITH REGARD TO PERCENTAGE AND NUMBERS.
UM, I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE COMMITTEE TO WEIGH IN AND SHARE THEIR DIRECTION ON THE MOTION THAT'S UN BROUGHT.
WE WANNA GET SOME MORE DATA ON THE PERCENTAGE OF THE AREAS OF PARKING.
UM, AND, AND THE, UH, AND BUT HAS TO BE IMPERVIOUS AND WHAT PART OF THE YARD.
I'M OKAY WITH THAT AS LONG AS IT IS AN EXTREMELY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME AS THAT'S AN EXTREMELY SHORT AMOUNT OF PATIENTS.
I HAVE, WHAT'S THE NEXT, AND I BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY AS WELL HAS THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF PATIENTS.
WHAT'S OUR REGULAR NEXT REGULAR MEETING? SECOND, SECOND THURSDAY IN FEBRUARY.
FEBRUARY 8TH OR I BELIEVE, UM, I, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD SUPPORT THE MOTION MOVING FORWARD WITH A COUPLE OF CAVEATS.
UH, THE PERCENTAGES THAT, THAT MS. BRYSON JUST SAID, THAT THE, THAT THE PUD MANAGERS, UH, ARE AWARE OF THIS AND THAT A SMALL REPRESENTATIVE GROUP OF STR OWNERS, UH, OUR MANAGERS, UH, BE, UH, INVITED BY STAFF TO SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED WITH THOSE THREE ITEMS. I'M PREPARED TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS TO MOVE IT FORWARD FOR A REVIEW NEXT MONTH.
PPC MEETING YOU? NO, BECAUSE, UH, AND, AND HERE'S, I, I, I APPRECIATE YOU TRYING TO BE INCLUSIVE IN, IN GETTING INPUT, BUT YOU'VE ONLY NAMED PUDS AND SHORT-TERM RENTAL FOLKS.
AND AS, AS MY, UH, COLLEAGUE MS. BECKER HAS POINTED OUT, THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT DON'T LIVE WITHIN PUDS AND THEY NEED TO HAVE INPUT AS WELL.
AND, AND SO I, I THINK INSTEAD TO GIVE A TIME LIMIT TO ALL THOSE WHO WANNA HAVE INPUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING OR MEETING OR SOMETHING, AND IF STAFF WANTS TO CONSULT VARIOUS FOLKS IN VARIOUS AREAS, UM, BUT IT'S THE FOLKS SPECIFICALLY, UM, IN NON PUDS WHO HAVE BEEN SUFFERING FOR YEARS.
AND THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH, WITH THAT APPROACH.
SO WITH, WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SUMMARIZE THE MOTION, UM, MY BEING ABLE TO SUMMARIZE THE MOTION, BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING IS MOVING THIS FORWARD WITH THE APPROPRIATE REVIEW BY THE PUBLIC, UH, AND THE,
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UM, BEHALF COME BACK TO THE PPC AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING.IS THAT CORRECT? I WOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT RELUCTANTLY, AS LONG AS IT'S BY THAT MEETING AND WE TAKE ACTION IF THAT'S, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND? CAN YOU RESTATE THE MOTION FULLY
WELL, AND I'M SORRY, BUT I, I REALLY NEED TO JUMP IN.
SO STAFF WORK TO ADDRESS WITH SOME CODE CHANGES THEY WERE TO THE LMO, WE BROUGHT THAT THROUGH A PROCESS.
IT REACHED SORT OF AN END AND WAS SORT OF SENT BACK TO COMMITTEE.
THIS IS BRAND NEW DIRECTION TO GO INTO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL FROM IT'S BRAND NEW DIRECTION AS A COMMITTEE, IF YOU SUPPORT IT TO DIRECT STAFF TO GO THIS ROUTE, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF MISSY AND THE TEAM CAN DELIVER A CODE CHANGE TO THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE, VETTING IT THROUGH, UM, STAKEHOLDERS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU IN FEBRUARY.
WHAT I CAN COMMIT TO IS WE'LL GET, WE CAN GET AS FAR AS WE CAN AND BRING YOU AN UPDATE.
UM, BUT, BUT I'M NOT READY TO, TO SAY WITH CERTAINTY KNOWING THAT WE HAVE REALLY TWO WEEKS TO BE ABLE TO VET IT.
SO IF WE HAVE INTERNAL REVIEW AND SENDING IT OUT IN A PACKET, UM, SO THE COMMUNITY, LET ALONE THE COMMITTEE HAS TIME TO REVIEW IT, UM, THE FEBRUARY 8TH DEADLINE IS, FOR ME IS A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC.
UM, WELL, MR. CHAIR, I'M, I, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY EXTRAORDINARY LACK OF PATIENCE AT, AT THE MOMENT, BUT CAN WE JUST DO A PRESS RELEASE AND SAY THE COMMITTEE'S GONNA CONSIDER THIS AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING AND SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE
MAY I ASK YOU, THAT'S FORMALLY, WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO AMEND THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE? UM, WELL, SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UH, PERMIT IS WITHIN THE MUNI CODE.
AND I BELIEVE IT'S AN ORDINANCE CHANGE TO RATINGS OF COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, I LIVE MOSTLY IN THE LMO, WHICH IS A SUBSET OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
UM, THIS IS A DIFFERENT CHAPTER, UM, BUT ORDINANCE, MUNICIPALITIES ADOPT CHANGES TO ORDINANCE, UM, BY TWO RATINGS OF COUNCIL.
LET'S, LET'S BRING THIS TO OF, UH, YOUR, YOUR POINTS, UM, MADE THAT STAFF MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO US WITHIN ONE MONTH.
UM, THE MOTION, UM, I THINK WHAT MS. BRYSON IS SAYING IS SHE WANTS IT BACK IN A MONTH.
SO IF THERE'S A SECOND TO AMEND IT THE WAY WE'VE BEEN TALKING, THEN WE CAN VOTE ON THAT.
I KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON AND WHAT WE'RE SEEKING A SECOND ON.
IS IT TO MOVE THIS TO COME BACK TO PPC IN A MONTH? IN A MONTH? YEAH, THAT'S SUBJECT TO STAFF REVIEW, YES.
AND WHAT, WHAT I'M HEARING IS STAFF MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DELIVER.
THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING, SO, ALRIGHT.
UM, I'LL, I'LL MAKE THAT SECOND.
IF WE CAN MAKE THE MOTION, STATE THE MOTION PLEASE.
SO, UM, TO AMEND THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, THAT WHICH WAS THE ONE TO AMEND SECTION 10 DASH TWO DASH 50 WITH THE ALL THAT UP ON THE SCREEN.
THAT, THAT, OKAY WITH A SECOND.
I THINK THAT'S ACCURATE AND I DO, UH, SECOND THAT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON COUNCIL? UH, OKAY.
I DID SEE ONE HAND THAT WENT UP HERE, MELISSA ROBIN STATED TOO CLOSE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF IN THE PROPOSAL OF REQUESTING THAT 75% BE IMPERVIOUS WITH MORE THAN FOUR VEHICLES, IF YOU ALL HAD THE BENEFIT OF SEEING SOME DESIGN SKETCHES, YOU KNOW, IN A BEACH COMMUNITY, IT'S PRETTY COMMON TO HAVE LIKE, CRUSH SHELLS CRUSHED STONE.
PERSONALLY, I DON'T LOVE ASPHALT AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THE VISUAL OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE.
I, I'M ALL FOR LIMITING THE PARKING, DON'T GET ME WRONG.
IT'S JUST THE ISSUE OF IMPERVIOUS.
SO SPECIFICALLY ON THIS, AND I
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HAVE A HOME.YOUR NAME TIM CALLEN BRADLEY CIRCLE.
I HAVE A VERY SMALL SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTY THERE.
I JUST DID MY SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS ALREADY THINGS IN PLACE 'CAUSE I HAD TO GO UP ON A DIGITAL MAP AND IT WAS DEFINED.
A PARKING SPACE WAS NINE FEET BY 18 FEET AND DEFINED HOW MANY PARKING SPACES I HAD.
I HAD TO DEFINE WHERE MY TRASH WAS.
I ASSUMED THERE WAS ALREADY SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT WAS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS I HAVE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE I HAD.
AND THAT DEFINITION OF A PARKING SPACE IT WAS IN, I HAD TO, I HAD TO PROVIDE ALL THAT AS PART OF A SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT.
JIM? THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOU HAD TO FULFILL WAS RELATED TO SQUARE FOOTAGE OR BEDROOMS. MA'AM, YOU COULD BE RIGHT.
I AM, BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY SAID LIKE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEN ASKING THAT.
I JUST WANNA POP ONE QUICK THING ABOUT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL AND THE PARKING.
UH, PAM FRANKLIN, YOUR NAME AND SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.
UM, AS FAR AS, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS AND JUST PIGGYBACKING ON, ON THIS, UH, WOMAN'S COMMENTS ABOUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY BILL, WHEN THEY BUY, I THINK THAT HA LIKE WE HAVE TO HAVE CLEAR CUT REGULATIONS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES.
I WAS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTY.
I AM NO LONGER A SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTY.
I'VE OWNED OTHER SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES UP AT THE JERSEY SHORE.
SO I I I COME AT YOU FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN, BUT I THINK WE NEED CLEAR CUT GUIDELINES ON WHAT IT MEANS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES WHEN SOMEONE IS COMING TO BUY ON THIS ISLAND, WHEN SOMEONE IS COMING TO BUILD ON THIS ISLAND, I THINK IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RENTAL AGENT OR HOW THEY'RE BUYING.
STATED RIGHT THERE THAT IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE THIS AS AN STR, YOU MUST COMPLY WITH X.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE THIS AS A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, THEN YOU COMPLY WITH YX AND Y DO NOT OVERLAP.
SO IN RELATIONSHIP TO, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BEDROOMS, YOU DON'T KNOW THIS, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT IF IT'S CLEAR AND IT'S CUT AND IT'S CONCISE, WE WILL KNOW.
AND AS FAR AS THE PARKING BEING AN ISSUE, I HAPPEN TO HAVE, UH, A VERY GENEROUS DRIVEWAY.
MY NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE ON HICKORY LANE THAT ARE PERMANENT RESIDENTS HAVE OFTEN HAD LITTLE DINNER PARTIES.
THEY HAVE HIGH SCHOOLERS, WHATEVER.
THEY HAVE OFTEN SAID TO ME, HEY, COULD WE PARK IN YOUR DRIVEWAY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE? THESE ARE PERMANENT RESIDENTS THAT ARE ASKING ME, OKAY, THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH, LET'S NOT PARK ON THE STREET.
LET'S NOT OVERCROWD THIS AREA.
WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT? I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.
WE DON'T NEED, I GO BACK TO A TRAGEDY TO OCCUR BY HAVING WAY TOO MANY CARS.
I HAVE FOUR KIDS, THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT OTHERS.
IF WE ALL DROVE DOWN HERE, WE COULD HAVE NINE CARS.
AND YES, I COULD FIT NINE CARS.
AGAIN, I'M FORTUNATE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, NINE VEHICLES, THINK ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S JUST FOR MY PERSONAL FAMILY.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RENTALS.
I, I, I'M, I'M GONNA HAVE TO CALL A TIME ON, ON THIS ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE AFTER LUNCH AND WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT OTHER PART OF THE AGENDA TO GO ON.
SO I'M GONNA CALL THE QUESTION MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AND, UM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU SUPPORT THE MOTION.
UM, I HATE TO DO THIS, BUT LET'S JUST TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
I MEAN FIVE MINUTES SO THAT YOU CAN STRETCH YOUR LEGS.
THE NEXT SECTION IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND I, 'CAUSE OF YOU, I FELT HOPELESS.
I KNOW IT WAS A JOKE, BUT IT STILL HURT ME.
BUT BECAUSE OF YOU, I FELT WANTED AND NOT ALONE IN THIS WORLD BECAUSE YOU SAID HI TO ME ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.
I FELT INCLUDED AND I KNEW THAT I WAS GONNA BE OKAY.
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BREAK YOUR WILL, BUT HOWEVER LOUD THE LOUDNESS GETS, HOWEVER MANY CHEESE PUFFS MAY FLY, YOU'RE THE DRIVER, THE ONE IN CONTROL STAND FIRM.ONLY WHEN YOU HEAR THE CLICK THAT SAYS THEY'RE BUCKLED IN FOR THE DRIVE, NEVER GIVE UP TILL THEY BUCKLE UP.
[6.a. Introduction of the Town of Hilton Head Island Conditions and Trends Assessment Report - Missy Luick, Director of Planning]
THE AGENDA IS THE INTRODUCTION TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND CONDITIONS AND TRENDS ASSESSMENT REPORT BY MISSY LOU, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.I, I, I WANNA MAKE JUST A QUICK COMMENT.
UM, UM, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I THINK OUR TOWN HAS TAKEN AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT A NUMBER OF SIGNIFICANT ELEMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO READ THROUGH IT, YOU BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND HOW ONE AREA OF THE COMMUNITY AFFECTS ANOTHER AREA.
AND WE'RE BEGINNING TO HAVE THE DATA THAT WILL ALLOW COUNCIL TO MAKE POLICY THAT MAKES MORE SENSE, BUT ALSO FOR THE PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO READ THE DETAIL OF THE CONDITIONS AND, UH, CONDITIONS AND TRENDS ASSESSMENT.
THEY WILL BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE ENGAGED IN TRYING TO ADDRESS.
SO, MISSY, GO AHEAD AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND TO THE CONSULTANTS FOR DOING THIS OUR JOB.
WE ARE, WE ARE HERE TODAY TO RECEIVE INFORMATION AND, UM, NOT MUCH BEYOND THAT.
UM, AND I WANTED TO FIRST START WITH, UH, YES, WE'VE HAD A CONSULTANT TEAM AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR, FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS.
UM, BUT ALSO OUR PROJECT LEAD, KATIE KABBALAH, WHO HAS HELPED US GET THIS DOCUMENT TO HERE, UH, TODAY HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN, UM, MANY DOCUMENT REVIEWS AND ANALYZING, UM, THESE 140 PAGES OF, OF DATA.
AND IT'S A VERY INFORMATION RICH REPORT AND, UH, REQUIRES A LOT OF ATTENTION TO DETAIL.
AND I JUST WANNA THANK KATIE FOR ALL OF HER HARD WORK LEADING THAT AND, AND BRINGING IT, UH, FOR YOU TO REVIEW TODAY.
SO THIS IS JUST AN INTRODUCTION, UM, AS, AS COUNCILMAN NAMES MENTIONED.
UM, AND WE WILL HAVE THIS BEFORE YOU IN FEBRUARY, UM, WITH A RESOLUTION AT THAT TIME.
SO, UM, WE WANT TO HEAR, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER KIND OF A REALLY BRIEF AND BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE DOCUMENT.
UM, AS AN INTRODUCTION, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW THE DOCUMENT IS ALREADY BEING USED AND HOW WE WILL USE IT, UM, AND THEN TALK ABOUT SOME NEXT STEPS.
UM, OVERALL, THE, THE PURPOSE IS TO, IT'S A DATA REPORT.
IT GIVES US SOME OF THAT BASELINE DATA, UM, ON 10 TOPIC AREAS.
AND IT'S A WAY TO ASSEMBLE AND ORGANIZE THAT DATA THAT THEN WE WILL ACTIVELY BE USING THAT IN, IN A VARIETY OF OUR IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN OUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
UM, THE DATA SHOULD, IF YOU, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE TRENDS ARE ON THOSE, ON A NUMBER OF THOSE TOPIC AREAS.
AND, UM, IT, IT'S A SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENT TO THE DATA AND INFORMATION THAT'S IN OUR PLAN, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND, UM, AND HOPEFULLY THE INFORMATION IS, IS ORGANIZED IN A, IN A EASY TO READ FORMAT, UM, THAT IS BROKEN INTO THE 10 TOPIC CLUSTERS OR TOPIC AREAS, UM, AND, AND IS PRESENTED IN AN UNDERSTANDABLE FASHION.
UM, THE DOCUMENT DOES HAVE A LINK TO ALL OF THOSE DATA SETS, AND IT'S A 60 OR 70 PAGE EXCEL REFERENCE, UM, BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
UM, AND SO IT IS VERY DISTILLED GRAPH GRAPHICALLY FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT DATA.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO MAKE DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS, UM, AS A COMMUNITY AND, AND THAT THIS DOCUMENT WILL BE ONE OF THE RESOURCE TOOLS THAT WE WILL ALL LOOK TO, TO, TO DO JUST THAT.
UM, AND THEN AS WE CONSIDER HOW WE'LL APPLY THE INFORMATION AND DATA, UM, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS, UM, FOR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT DOES THIS DATA AND INFORMATION TELL US, AND HOW DO WE WANT TO APPLY IT AS A COMMUNITY AND FUTURE POLICIES.
AND IN THE LMO WORK THAT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT IN OUR DISTRICT PLANS.
UM, AND, AND SO IT HAS A LOT OF, UH, APPLICATIONS THAT, THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY USING THE INFORMATION AND DATA FOR AND HOW WE PLAN TO CONTINUE TO USE THE INFORMATION AND DATA.
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SO HOW DID WE DO THE WORK? UM, WE STARTED WITH DEFINING WHAT THIS PROJECT WAS, UM, AND THEN WE OUTLINED WHAT THOSE TOPIC AREAS WERE AND THEN, UM, SENT THE CONSULTANT TEAM TO WORK TO CATALOG AND COLLECT, UM, A VARIETY OF DATA SETS AND THEN ANALYZE THEM THROUGH STRATEGIC ANALYSIS AND TRY TO ASSEMBLE IT INTO A FORMAT THAT CAN BE DIGESTED.UM, AND THEN WE'RE AT STEP FOUR TODAY, WHICH IS SHARING, UM, AND INTEGRATING THAT INFORMATION FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENT.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE DONE.
UM, THIS SLIDE, UM, IS NOT SHOWING THE, THE 10 TOPIC AREAS LIKE, UM, LIKE IT SHOULD.
UM, BUT THERE ARE 10 TOPIC AREAS THAT THIS, UH, REPORT ANALYZES.
AND IT INCLUDES DEMOGRAPHICS, WORKFORCE ECONOMICS, REAL ESTATE ENVIRONMENT, HOUSING, GOVERNANCE, ENGAGEMENT SYSTEMS, AND LAND USE.
UM, AND SO THERE ARE KEY COMMUNITY SNAPSHOT INFORMATION AND DETAILED ANALYSIS FROM THOSE KEY TOPIC AREAS.
UM, SO OVERALL, THIS ASSESSMENT IS THAT BENCHMARK AND, UM, STATISTICAL INFORMATION TO EVALUATE AND ASSESS THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY WITHIN THOSE TOPIC LISTERS.
UM, AND SO IT'S THE FINDINGS, IDENTIFY THOSE MAJOR TRENDS, UM, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE USED AS A BUILDING BLOCK, UM, FOR TALENT LEADERSHIP TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS GOING FORWARD.
AND I THINK IT WILL PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION THAT WE NEED AS WE GO INTO DISTRICTS AND THIS LMO OVERHAUL TO, UM, INFORM FUTURE, FUTURE COMMUNITY PLANS, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES, UH, PUBLIC POLICIES, AND THOSE STRATEGIC ACTIONS THAT WOULD RESULT FROM THOSE.
UM, SO THE OBJECTIVE WAS TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION, UM, BASED ON WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE THE KEY TOPICS AND CLUSTERS IN IN 2023 WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN.
UM, AND, UH, AND THAT THIS WOULD BE USED AS A TOOL, JUST ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER DOCUMENT ON THE SHELF, UM, THAT IS VERY INFORMATION RICH.
UM, SO I GUESS THERE'S ONE QUESTION ON, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS GONNA BE APPLIED? AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICATION OF THIS INFORMATION CAN BE COMMUNICATED TODAY.
BUT, UM, AND ONE OF THOSE IS IN LAND USE.
UM, AND, AND REAL BRIEFLY THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING IT IN, UM, SOME OF OUR DISTRICT PLANNING WORK, UM, AND, AND WANTED TO JUST KIND OF SHOWCASE HOW THAT CAN BE APPLIED, BUT WE JUST DID, UM, COMPLETE AN INTERNAL STAFF LED TWO DAY WORKSHOP THIS WEEK ON HONOR DISTRICTS.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT ALL OF THE INFORMATION WITHIN ALL THE TOPIC CLUSTERS CAN BE ALSO ORGANIZED BY THE SPATIAL BOUNDARIES OF THOSE DISTRICTS.
AND SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT EACH OF THOSE EIGHT PLANNING DISTRICTS AND WHO'S THERE, SO WHAT ARE THE DEMOGRAPHICS? WHO WORKS THERE? UM, DO THEY COMMUTE THERE OR, UM, DO THEY LIVE WITHIN THAT DISTRICT? UM, AND A VARIETY OF OTHER, UM, INFORMATION.
WE HAVE THE BUSINESS INFORMATION, UM, AND IN A LOT OF LAND USE INFORMATION RELATED TO, UM, THE AGE OF STRUCTURES AND VULNERABILITY OR SUSCEPTIBILITY TO CHANGE THE, THE ACREAGE OF VACANT PARCELS, UM, AND UNDERDEVELOPED PARCELS.
AND WE CAN UTILIZE ALL THAT INFORMATION AS WE GO INTO THAT PLANNING WORK AND FURTHER, AND TAKE IT FURTHER THAN WHAT IT IS THAT'S PRESENTED IN, IN THE CONDITIONS AND TRENDS.
UM, ALSO FROM, UM, HOW THE DATA WILL BE USED.
UM, WE HAVE APPLIED IT ALREADY TO WHAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU NEXT MONTH, THE HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS.
SO INFORMATION FROM BOTH THE HOUSING AND THE REAL ESTATE CHAPTERS WE'RE THEN FURTHER ANALYZED TO PUT TOGETHER THAT DOCUMENT, THAT HOUSING ANALYSIS.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A, A NUMBER OF OTHER, UH, VARIETY OF WAYS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THE INFORMATION AND WILL BE, UM, AND I THINK IF YOU READ THE INFORMATION, IT REALLY UNEARTHED A LOT OF INFORMATION.
UM, SOME OBVIOUS, SOME NOT SO OBVIOUS INFORMATION, UM, THAT SHOULD INFORM HOW WE GROW, UM, AS A COMMUNITY.
UM, AND, AND JUST WITHIN ONE OF THE TOPIC CLUSTERS, AS AN EXAMPLE, THE POPULATION, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THE STATISTIC, IT SHOWS THAT OUR POPULATION IS, UM, PLATEAUED AND THAT IT IS NOT INCREASING.
BUT, UM, AND SO THAT'S OCCURRED OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS.
BUT WITHIN THAT INFORMATION, THE MAKEUP OF THE POPULATION HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT.
UM, FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN HAVE DECREASED BY 35%.
UM, AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION HAS DECREASED BY 15%.
THE HISPANIC POPULATION GREW BY 28%.
AND THE SHARE OF RE RESIDENTS OVER THE AGE OF 65% INCREASED BY 37%.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD SIZE DECREASED TO 2.2
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PEOPLE.UM, VISITORS TO THE ISLAND GREW SIGNIFICANTLY WITHIN THAT TIMETABLE.
UM, IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, THE NUMBER OF VISITORS GREW TO ALMOST 20%.
AND, UM, WITH AN INCREASED AVERAGE RESIDENT AGE ON THE ISLAND AND A POPULATION THAT'S INTERESTED IN AGING IN PLACE, THERE COULD BE, THAT COULD INFORM SOME FUTURE STRATEGIC DIRECTIONS FOR THE TOWN.
SO JUST LOOKING AT THE DATA AND ANALYZING HOW WE MIGHT APPLY THAT, HOW WE MIGHT, UM, LOOK AT THAT IN, IN SOME OF OUR, OUR WORK IS, IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, ANOTHER AREA THAT WE LOOKED AT, UM, VERY CLOSELY WHEN WE PUT THE DOCUMENT TOGETHER WAS, UM, WITH THE HOUSING INFORMATION DATA.
AND, UM, WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT.
UM, AND, AND WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION TODAY ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
UM, AND THAT THERE IS, UM, THE DATA DOES SHOW US THAT THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE CONVERSION OF HOUSING TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
AND THAT, UM, THE ISLAND HAS BOTH A, A LARGER NUMBER OF EXISTING HOUSING STAFF THAT'S AFFORDABLE, BOTH PROTECTED AND NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THAT IT NOTED THAT WE HAVE 3,600 LONG-TERM RENTAL UNITS ON THE ISLAND.
AND RIGHT NOW ABOUT OVER HALF OF THOSE 2000 ARE DEEMED AFFORDABLE.
UM, AND SO WITHIN THAT INFORMATION, IT THEN GIVES US WHAT IS THE AVERAGE RENT ON HILTON HEAD? AND THE AVERAGE RENT IS LOWER THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE ARE LONG-TERM RENTALS AND THEY DON'T COME UP ON THE MARKET.
SO WE HAD A DEEP DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AVERAGE RENT AND MEDIA AND THE MARKET RENT AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE THAT YOU WOULD SEE ADVERTISED ON ZILLOW WITH THE LONG-TERM RENTAL AGENCIES.
'CAUSE IT CERTAINLY IS NOT THAT 1,300 RENT FIGURE RENTS ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT MARKET RENTS.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK THERE.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT MEANS THAT IN OUR HOUSING WORK, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON PROTECTION OF SOME OF THOSE, UM, EXISTING NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN EXTRAPOLATE THE DATA AND, AND USE IT IN, IN ALL OF THE WORK PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.
UM, SOME OF THE KEY FINDINGS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, AND AGAIN, THERE ARE MANY WITHIN THIS REPORT.
AND TODAY, JUST AS AN INTRODUCTION, I WANTED TO FOCUS ON JUST, JUST THIS BUNDLE HERE.
UM, ABOUT 7% OR, UM, 1,500 ACRES OF THE ISLAND'S TOTAL LAND AREA IS UNDEVELOPED.
AND OF THAT 1500 ACRES, 28% OR 425 ACRES IS TOWN OWNED PROPERTY.
UM, SO THAT SHOWS JUST THAT UNDEVELOPED CATEGORY.
UM, ALSO THAT THE, THE LMO IN CONJUNCTION WITH SEVERAL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS REGULATES THE CHARACTER AND DESIRE DEVELOPMENT FORMS ON THE ISLAND REDEVELOPMENT OF AGING RETAIL CENTERS.
AND THE ADDITION OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS THE BIGGEST DEVELOPMENT TRENDS.
SO WE ARE SEEING THAT, UM, REDEVELOPMENT AND SINGLE FAMILY ARE THOSE, UH, PREDOMINANT BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION TYPES.
AND THEN WHILE THE ISLAND AS A WHOLE HAS THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING, UM, AS ITS NUMBER ONE ZONING DISTRICT, UM, OVERALL THE LAND USES ARE MORE EVENLY DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND.
UM, THERE ARE OLDER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO CHANGE OR THEY EXPERIENCE REDEVELOPMENT IN THE NEAR TERM JUST BASED ON THE AGE OF THOSE STRUCTURES IN THE NEED FOR SIGNIFICANT UPDATES.
UM, AND THEN THAT HOUSING DENSITY IS SLOWLY INCREASING, BUT VARIES SIGNIFICANTLY ACROSS THE ISLANDS NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND AGAIN, WE JUST PULLED A COUPLE OF THE KEY FINDINGS, BUT, BUT THERE ARE MANY, UM, MANY TAKEAWAYS WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT.
UM, SO WE ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, I TOUCHED ON KIND OF HOW SOME OF THIS INFORMATION WILL BE USED AND APPLIED GOING FORWARD.
UM, OF COURSE, IN DISTRICT PLANS WE'RE GONNA IDENTIFY THOSE MARKET TRENDS, WE'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO MAP THAT AND GRAPHICALLY SHOW, UM, SOME SCENARIO PLANNING.
UM, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT BASED ON THE HEAVY DATASET THAT WE HAVE AT OUR FINGERTIPS NOW.
UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN OF, OF HOW IT CAN BE APPLIED AND IT CAN BE APPLIED IN A, IN A LOT LONGER LIST THAN WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED HERE.
UM, AND THEN THE PLAN ITSELF IS, UM, IS REALLY STRUCTURED TO BE PART OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, SO IT IS MEANT TO BECOME PART OF THAT ISLAND MASTER PLAN ALONG WITH THOSE EIGHT PLANNING DISTRICTS.
AND THEN IT'LL BE, UH, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO BE PART OF OUR COMP PLAN.
SO IT IS JUST ANOTHER DATA SET, UM, THAT IS MORE TARGETED TOWARD THESE TOPIC AREAS AND HAS, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE TAILORED TO WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY.
IT'S A POINT IN TIME DATA SET, UM, AND, UH, AND IT CAN INFORM US ON HOW WE GO FORWARD.
NOW, WE WON'T BE DONE NECESSARILY, IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT AND, AND WE GROW AND CHANGE EVERY DAY.
UM, AND SO IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NEED TO UPDATE AT SOME REGULAR INTERVAL TO UNDERSTAND
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NOW THAT WE HAVE THE BASELINE, THEN WE CAN SEE FURTHER TREND DATA, UM, AND CAN SEE IF WE, IF WE DECIDE THAT, UM, WE WANTED TO CHANGE A, A SPECIFIC TREND, THEN WE CAN MAP THAT OVER TIME AND SEE IF OUR INTENTIONAL ACTIONS ARE HAVING AN IMPACT ON, ON THE DATA AND FUTURE, UM, ANALYSIS.SO, UM, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TODAY IS JUST ONE, THIS IS DELIVERY OF THIS, UM, DOCUMENT TO YOU AS INTRODUCTION.
UM, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR QUESTIONS, IDEAS, FEEDBACK, UM, AND THAT WE INTEND TO BRING THIS BACK IN FEBRUARY, UM, FOR RECOMMENDATION OF THE RESOLUTION BY THE PUBLIC PLANET COMMITTEE, AND THEN WOULD MOVE FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL FROM THERE.
AND THEN THE DOCUMENT WOULD BE PUBLISHED, UM, AND THEN UTILIZED, UH, THROUGHOUT OUR ORGANIZATION.
MISSY, THANK YOU FOR THE INCREDIBLE JOB.
IT'S A LOT, LOT TO ABSORB, BUT COMMENTS FROM, I AM HAPPY TO GO FIRST, BUT I'M ONLY, ONLY 'CAUSE YOU LOOKED AT ME
I WAS ALSO HAPPY TO GO THE OTHER DIRECTION.
SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, A A A PROCESS QUESTION.
UM, I'M, I'M GLAD NEXT STEPS ARE STILL UP THERE.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS MIGHT BE A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MM-HMM,
UM, AND IF WE DO MAKE IT A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT WOULD NEED TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND, AND THE TOWN COUNCIL.
SO IS THAT THE INTENT OR MAYBE LET'S THINK ABOUT IT.
UM, WELL THE, THIS IS PART OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT STRATEGY, JUST LIKE THE, THE LMO IS ONE OF THOSE STEPS WITHIN IT.
UM, THE INTENDED IDEA THAT THIS WOULD BE PART OF THE ISLAND MASTER PLAN THAT IS, IT'S AN INFORMING DOCUMENT THAT HELPS US WITH THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK MAPS AND THE DISTRICT PLANS AND EVERYTHING THAT FOLLOWS, WHICH THE LMO IS ONE OF THOSE IMPLEMENTATION STEPS.
AND THAT IT IS PART OF COMPREHENSIVELY, IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMP PLAN.
AND, AND THEN WITH, WITH THE DISTRICTS, THERE'S THE, THE LAND USE ELEMENT, UM, AMENDMENT TO THROUGH A FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO, SOUNDS AS THOUGH IT'S, IT'S PART OF THIS BROADER, UH, GROWTH FRAMEWORK STRATEGY, BUT AS PART OF THAT, UM, AS PART OF THEIR STATUTORY REQUIREMENT FOR US TO REVIEW THE COMP PLAN EVERY SO MANY YEARS, UM, UH, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? IS THAT WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THIS GROWTH MANAGEMENT, UH, STRATEGY PROCESS AND THAT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY WE WOULD DO AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMP PLAN? UH, I'M, I'M MOSTLY ASKING ABOUT HOW DOES THIS FIT IN WITH THE COMP PLAN.
IT, IT'S, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE DEFINED AND UPDATED DATA, BUT IT'S A LARGER DATA SET.
THERE'S A LOT OF DATA AND INFORMATION IN THE COMP PLAN CURRENTLY, AND, UM, IT'S COMPLIMENTARY TO THAT.
UM, AND IN FUTURE COMPREHENSIVE REWRITES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE WOULD INCORPORATE ALL OF THE DATA INTO ONE LARGER DATA SET IN STORY.
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT AMENDING THE COMP PLAN RIGHT NOW TO INCLUDE THIS.
WE WOULD BE LIKE AN THE NEXT TIME.
NO, WE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT BEING AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMP PLAN, BUT NOT THAT WE WOULD REFORMAT THAT DOCUMENT THAT THIS WOULD BE KIND OF ADDED AS AN APPENDIX AT THE END.
YEAH, THE REASON I'M ASKING IS 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT IN THE NEXT STEPS.
SO ADOPTION OF THIS PLAN OR ACCEPTANCE OF THE CONDITION AND TRENDS BY TOWN COUNCIL, UM, IS NOT THE MECHANISM THAT WE WOULD THEN ATTACH IT TO THE CO THE COMP PLAN.
UM, AS MISSY MENTIONED, OUR DISTRICT PLANNING I AND Y GROWTH FRAMEWORK, FUTURE LAND USE, MAP ZONING, MAP UPDATE, UM, ALL REQUIRE AN UPDATE TO THE LAND USE ELEMENT AND THE COMP PLAN.
I THINK AT THAT TIME IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO BRING THIS FORWARD AND, UM, AND INCLUDE IT IN THE AMENDMENT TO THE COMP PLAN, THIS PLAN BY REFERENCE.
SO IF WE UPDATE IT EVERY TWO YEARS, IT'S, IT'S GONNA REFER TO THE LATEST AND GREATEST PLAN.
SO THIS IS JUST, UH, INFORMATION AND RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNCIL TO ACCEPT IT AS A TOOL FOR DECISION MAKING.
AND THEN WE IN OUR UPCOMING, UM, AMENDMENT TO THE COMP PLAN FOR THESE OTHER THINGS RELATED TO GROWTH FRAMEWORK, THIS WOULD BE ATTACHED TO THAT.
SO FAIRWAY CONSIDERATION AND RESOLUTION BY THIS COMMITTEE, YOU'RE MOSTLY LOOKING FOR US TO ACCEPT THIS A, C-C-E-P-T, NOT E-X-C-E-P-T.
UM, BUT I MEAN, I, YOU ACCEPTED
WELL, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO READ ALL OF IT YET, SO
I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE PROCESS AND, AND ADOPT.
AND THEN IT SAYS ADOPTION BY TOWN COUNCIL.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT IT, AREN'T WE THEN AMENDING THE COMP PLAN? SO THAT, SORRY, IT'S A LEGAL QUESTION I GUESS, BUT IT'S OKAY.
I THINK IT'S JUST THE SEQUENCING.
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A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, BUT INITIALLY WE'RE JUST GONNA GET A RESOLUTION, UH, SUPPORTED BY PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE AND AND TOWN COUNCIL SAY THAT.I, I'M SORRY, I I JUST THAT ONE MORE TIME.
I DON'T MEAN TO BELITTLE AT ALL THIS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESEARCH AND ITS EFFECTIVENESS WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I THINK, UM, I THINK A SUPPORT BY A RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL, UM, GIVES US THE CONFIDENCE THAT IT'S A TOOL TO HELP DECISION MAKING.
WE DID THE SAME THING WITH A HOUSING ACTION FRAMEWORK.
WE DIDN'T AMEND THE HOUSING CHAPTER OF OUR COMP PLAN.
UM, BUT GOING FORWARD, I THINK WE SHOULD REFERENCE WHATEVER THE HOUSING ACTION PLAN IS.
UH, SAME THING WITH THE MID ISLAND DISTRICT.
WHEN WE BROUGHT THAT FORWARD, IT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL BY RESOLUTION, KNOWING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MODIFY THE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND, AND, UM, AND ZONING OR LMO GOING FORWARD.
BUT IT WAS JUST, UH, A POINT IN TIME WHERE COUNCIL SAID, WE SUPPORT, WE ACCEPT THIS, WE THINK IT'S GOOD.
IT'S A TOOL FOR, UH, THAT CAN BE USED FOR DECISION MAKING, UM, GOING FORWARD.
UM, SO NOW I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THERE ARE 10 TOPIC AREAS AND THEN THERE'S SEVEN KEY TRENDS.
AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, THERE ARE 15 MAJOR POINTS WITH BEST I COULD COUNT 42 BULLET POINTS.
UM, AND, AND I THINK YOU HAD A SLIDE THERE, A COUPLE OF SLIDES BEFORE THAT HAD, UM, AN EXAMPLE OF KEY FINDINGS.
UM, I WANNA SAY THERE WERE SEVEN OF THEM.
CAN YOU GO BACK ABOUT THREE SLIDES? OH, THERE WE GO.
UM, SO I THINK YOU SAID THESE ARE AN EXAMPLE OF KEY FINDINGS.
UM, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, I GUESS, IS THIS NOW GONNA BE PUT ON OUR WEBSITE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE? BECAUSE I THINK IT'D BE VERY HELPFUL, UM, FOR A COUPLE DIFFERENT REASONS.
ONE IS, AND NOT ONLY THERE ARE THE TOPIC AREAS, BUT THERE'S KEY TRENDS, BUT THEY'RE CALLED SEVEN KEY TRENDS.
AND THEN SEPARATELY, THERE'S 15 MAJOR POINTS IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, WHICH HAVE 42 BULLET POINTS.
UM, SO, SO WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION, PATSY? UM,
EACH BULLET POINT, OR 42 OF THEM, I GUESS IF YOU COUNTED, UM, ARE ARE THERE FOR YOUR, YOUR USE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE TOOLBOX AND, AND HOW THEY GET APPLIED IS, IS TO BE DETERMINED.
SO AS WE MOVE ALONG WITH WHATEVER STEPS WE'RE GONNA TAKE NEXT IN GROWTH MANAGEMENT, THEN I'M, I'M TO LOOK AT THIS AND I PICK OUT PIECES OF IT THAT SUPPORT MY ARGUMENT.
IS THAT WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO, WELL, IT'S DATA AND INFORMATION, UM, THAT WILL HELP US MAKE DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS AND INFORM, YOU KNOW, HOW WE MOVE FORWARD IN FUTURE, ADDING FUTURE WORK TO STRATEGIC ACTION PLANS, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, UH, COULD BE, THERE'S A ROBUST, UM, IMPLEMENTATION AND RECOMMENDATION SECTION IN THIS DOCUMENT AS WELL.
THAT'S HOW YOU COULD ANALYZE SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THOSE ALL OCCUR WITH, UM, SUPPORT OF THIS DOCUMENT, BUT THAT THEY BE CONSIDERED FOR FUTURE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS AND FUTURE DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO ADD THOSE TO FUTURE STRATEGIC ACTION PLANS.
BUT IT'S INFORMATION AND DATA THAT HOPEFULLY WILL PROVIDE FOR A BETTER, MORE DATA INFORMED CONVERSATION.
AND THEN, THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PAGE AND, UH, THE PAGE NUMBERS, BUT ALL I CAN SAY IS IN THE DRAFT, I'M LOOKING AT IT'S PAGE 1 34 CALLED CURRENT ACTIONS, AND THEY'RE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 OF THOSE.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS, UM, A LITTLE HELP FROM STAFF TO SAY, FOCUS ON THESE
UM, I'LL READ THE WHOLE THING, BUT UM, I NEED SOME HELP IN FOCUSING ON WHERE THE PRIORITIES ARE, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
GLENN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I WOULD SAY THAT I ACCEPT THIS.
I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF WORK, THE FASCINATING DATA THAT'S THERE.
I LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AN APPENDIX TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE IT WILL
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PROBABLY BE REVIEWED AND UPDATED MORE OFTEN THAN, THAN OUR PLAN IS.I LOOK FORWARD TO A WORKING TOOL.
UM, SO MANY OF THE QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE R PLAN WAS, WAS PART OF MY CONSIDERATION GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE R PLAN IS IN FACT A 10 YEAR DOCUMENT WITH REVISIONS ANTICIPATED WITHIN THE MIDPOINT.
AND, AND SO I DON'T WANNA A WHOLE LOT OF RELIANCE ON WHAT THE R PLAN SAYS BUILT INTO THIS DOCUMENT AND, AND VICE VERSA, UH, IN IN OUR PLANNING STRATEGIES MOVING FORWARD.
HAVING SAID THAT, UM, THERE, UM, THERE ARE TRENDS THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT AND I DID READ EVERY, UM, EVERY WORD OF IT, UM, A COUPLE OF TIMES.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I ENJOYED IT.
UM, BECAUSE YIKES, THERE ARE, UM, WELL, THERE, THERE IS, YOU'RE CORRECT.
THERE'S A LOT OF DATA AND IT'S WELL WRITTEN.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY.
'CAUSE REGARDLESS OF, OF WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, YOU'LL FIND SOMETHING THAT'LL HOLD, UM, SOME IMPORTANCE TO YOU.
AND, BUT THERE IS, THERE ARE TRENDS, AND I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT HERE TODAY, UM, PULLS IT TOGETHER.
UM, SHORT-TERM RENTALS, VISITORS, TOURISM, UM, UM, COMEBACK, WORKFORCE COMEBACK AS A SINGULAR POINT, UM, TO FOCUS ON IF, IF I WAS FINDING A FOCUS BECAUSE IT LEADS US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE, WHAT CONCERNED ME THE MOST, LET ME GET THERE.
WHAT CONCERNED ME THE MOST IS F IS THE, UM, ACTION PLANS WHEREIN THERE ARE TIMEFRAMES, IMMEDIATE ZERO TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
AND THEN THREE TO FIVE YEARS, ET CETERA, THAT ARE BUILT IN AT THE BACK, UM, ON MANY OF THOSE LINE ITEMS. I DON'T AGREE.
UM, AND, AND I WANT FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THOSE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHO MADE THOSE DETERMINATIONS, BUT, UM, I WANNA VOICE IN THAT.
I WANT TO CONTINUE THAT THOUGHT FOR JUST A MOMENT.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LEVELS OF CONSIDERATION.
I THINK THAT IT'S MOST STRATEGIC OR EXCELLENT WORK.
THE QUESTION IS JUST AS COUNCILMAN, UH, BECKER JUST SAID, HOW DO WE WEIGH IN? HOW ARE THE TIMING, THE MORE GRANULAR LEVEL OF THIS? HOW, HOW DO YOU EXPECT COUNSEL TO, UH, INTERACT IN THAT AREA WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION SPECIFICALLY? UM, WHEN WOULD, WHEN WOULD THOSE CONVERSATIONS TAKE PLACE? ARE YOU ASKING COUNSEL TO MAKE, UH, COMMENTS AT THAT LEVEL? WHEN WOULD YOU QUOTE UNQUOTE APPROVED BY RESOLUTION THIS DOCUMENT? OR ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED DOWN THE ROAD IN ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS, WHATEVER? UM, THE WAY I ENVISION THE DOCUMENT BEING APPLIED WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE IS THAT THOSE ARE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS AND FUTURE ADDITIONS TO STRATEGIC ACTION PLANS.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE RECOMMENDATION OPTIONS, UM, IF YOU WILL.
AND THEY WERE ORGANIZED, UH, BY STAFF AND THE CONSULTANT TEAM BY WHICH WE THOUGHT WERE THE MOST IMMEDIATE, MID AND LONG-TERM.
UM, POSSIBLE THREATS IF, IF THAT'S THE TERM FOR THE PARTICULAR TOPIC.
UM, BUT THAT IT WASN'T, UM, AN ACTION, AN ACTUAL ACTION PLAN.
UM, BUT IT, IT HAS THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND THAT THOSE WOULD BE ALL FUTURE DECISIONS.
SO YOU'RE NOT ASKING THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE TODAY OR IN FEBRUARY TO COME BACK AND APPROVE THOSE ACTION PLANS AS CONCRETE.
THOSE ARE FOR FUTURE POLICY DECISIONS AND DIRECTIONS.
UH, I'M WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
UH, I WOULD MOVE THAT THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE ACCEPT THIS REPORT AND RECOMMEND IT FORWARD FOR ACCEPTANCE BY THE TOWN COUNCIL.
BUT YOU'RE COMING BACK HERE IN FEBRUARY WITH THE RESOLUTION? YES.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? IT SAYS TO COME BACK TO US IN FEBRUARY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING, WE'RE WE'RE ACCEPTING THE REPORT.
IT'S ALL SECOND FOR THE DISCUSSION, BUT THE QUESTION, I GUESS TO PATSY'S POINT OF SURPRISE IS DO WE NEED A MOTION TO HAVE THEM BRING IT BACK TO US TODAY? WE DON'T NEED A MOTION ON THIS.
NO, BUT YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO YOU IT BY CONSENSUS.
WE AREN'T DISAGREEING WITH WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T TURN MY MICROPHONE OFF.
UM, AS I UNDERSTOOD THE MOTION, IT WAS TO APPROVE IT.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING, WHOOP, WAIT, HOLD IT.
I THOUGHT WE WERE COMING BACK IN FEBRUARY TO CONSIDER.
SO, THOUGHT I SAID TO ACCEPT IT.
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EITHER WAY.WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE? I, I WOULD JUST, IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, IT'S A MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK IN FE FEBRUARY WITH A RECOMMENDATION RESOLUTION TO, TO ADVANCE.
[6.b. Discussion regarding the Creation of a Short-Term Rental Ad Hoc Committee - Missy Luick, Director of Planning]
ITEM FOR DISCUSSION IS REGARDING THE CREATION OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL AD HOC COMMITTEE, MISSY LUECK.UM, I THINK, UH, A GENERAL STATEMENT WOULD BE THAT COUNCIL HAS LOOKED AT THIS, UM, AGREED WITH THE GENERAL DIRECTION.
UH, MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE THE TIMING OF ITS, UH, INCEPTION.
SO WHAT ARE OTHER PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS? UM, WELL I'LL JUMP IN FIRST.
UM, I BELIEVE STRONGLY, NOT ONLY IN THIS INSTANCE, BUT OTHERS THAT, UM, WE HAVE STRONG COMMITTEES, ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND IT IS, UM, OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND DUTIES TO OUR CONSTITUENTS TO, UM, TAKE THE, UM, TAKE THE TIME AND, UM, THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION AND, AND STOP THE, UM, EVER-GROWING NUMBER ADVISORY COMMITTEES THAT ARE BEING ESTABLISHED.
UM, AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
AND IN FACT, THE, UM, IN COMPLEXION OF THE WAY THIS IS BEING SUGGESTED THAT IT WOULD BE, UM, POPULATED, UM, REALLY FOR THE MOST PART, UM, IS NOT IN THE RESIDENT'S BEST INTEREST.
AND I SIT HERE FIRST AND FOREMOST TO REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS OF THE SILENT.
SO I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE CON THE, UM, A SHORT TERM RENTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
GLEN, I TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE CREATION OF MANY COMMITTEES MADE UP OF CITIZENS OF DEALING WITH THE WORK OF MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
HOWEVER, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN GET DETAILED INFORMATION FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE SO THAT THE COUNCIL CAN THEN ACT ON IT.
SO THE SCOPE OF THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO BE CAREFULLY DEFINED.
THE COMPOSITION OF THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO BE REFINED, UM, IN SUCH A WAY THAT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU WOULD HAVE AN EQUAL NUMBER OF CITIZENS AND REPRESENTATIVES OF THE SHORT, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL MANAGEMENT COMPANIES, UH, OR THAT, THAT INDUSTRY, IF YOU WILL.
UM, AND I DON'T SEE THAT WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US NOW, BUT I APPROVE OF THE CONCEPT, UH, ONCE WE HAVE THE DETAILS LAID OUT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE AN APPROPRIATE DECISION.
UM, I, I THINK I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT MR. STANFORD JUST SAID.
UM, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT, UM, TO SAY THE RECOMMENDATION THAT A COMMITTEE BE FORMED, UM, AND THEN, UM, THAT IT'D BE ESTABLISHED AFTER THE DISTRICT PLANS ARE CREATED AND THE LMO QUICK FIX AMENDMENT SETS ARE COMPLETED.
UM, AND I, I GO ALONG WITH THAT.
I DO SUPPORT, I CALL IT, FOR LACK OF SOMETHING BETTER, CROSS REPRESENTATIVE, CROSS-FUNCTIONAL TEAM.
UM, AND, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE MADE UP OF RESIDENTS, UM, BUT, UH, REPRESENTATION AS MR. STANFORD HAS DESCRIBED.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO FLESH THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT, UM, I, I KNOW THERE'S SOME FOLKS FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT HERE WHO LOOK AFTER OUR SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THEIR INPUT AS WELL INTO HOW A COMMITTEE SHOULD BE CONSTITUTED.
UM, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF, IT'S APPARENT THAT THERE MAY BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO BE FORMED.
UH, BUT IT'S LATER ON, SO I'M NOT ADVOCATING TO FORM THE COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME.
IF THE REST ACCOUNT, THE COMMITTEE AGREES WITH THAT, MY CONSENSUS, THEN WE'LL POSTPONE UNTIL WE ARE CLOSER TO THE LMO UH, DEMAND FOR THAT KIND OF INPUT.
AND NOT JUST LMO PORTION, BUT ALSO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE PORTION FOUND IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
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JOE.UH, I WE'RE, WE'VE GOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT, AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO TALK ABOUT IN A, ALL OF THIS IN A VERY SMALL KIND OF PRESENTATION TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
UH, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER, UH, WE STARTED WORKING ON A NEW SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER OPPORTUNITY LAST YEAR, UM, BECAUSE WE KNEW, AND WE HAVE KNOWN THAT TRYING TO RECRUIT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO BE CLASS ONE CERTIFIED, WHICH IS WHAT THE STATE REQUIRED.
UH, YOU KNOW, TO BE IN OUR SCHOOLS AS SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, WHICH ARE, IS, IS A SPECIAL, I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THAT IS REALLY A SPECIAL CANDIDATE, UH, THAT WE CONSIDER TO BE THAT CLOSE AN ASSOCIATION TO OUR KIDS.
UM, AND, BUT WE KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY FACTORS IT CREATES, NOT ONLY IN OUR SCHOOLS, BUT WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR COMMUNITIES AS WELL, BECAUSE THE SCHOOL IS A MELTING POT OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE.
SO HAVING THAT RIGHT PERSON IN THAT JOB AND THAT ROLE TO PROVIDE SECURITY TO OUR KIDS LEADERSHIP, TO OUR KIDS, UH, AND GIVING THE CONFIDENCE TO THE STAFF TO WORK IN THE SCHOOLS, I MEAN, IT'S IMPORTANT TO FIND THAT RIGHT PERSON.
SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND A CLASS ONE OR A CLASS ONE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, IS ONE THAT GOES TO THE ACADEMY FOR 12 WEEKS, SPENDS 12 WEEKS FOR THE MOST PART IN COLUMBIA.
WE DO SOME OF THE TRAINING HERE LOCALLY, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, HAS TO BE DONE IN COLUMBIA.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT TO BE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS THAT REALLY DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR LIFE AND THEIR FAMILY TO GO TO COLUMBIA AND GO THROUGH BOOTCAMP TO BE A CLASS ONE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
SO I HAD OUR TRAINING STAFF PUT TOGETHER A TRAINING SYLLABUS FOR A, WHAT WE CALL A CLASS THREE.
UH, AND IT WAS A CLASS THREE DESIGNATION FOR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER.
WHAT THAT DID IS IT ALLOWED US TO CREATE A TRAINING SYLLABUS THAT WE COULD TAKE A PERSON, UM, YOU KNOW, OF, OF ANY AGE, UM, AND THAT WE WOULD BRING THEM INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW, WITH BLUFFTON OR BEAUFORT OR PORT ROYAL OR SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
UH, AND WE WOULD TRAIN THEM HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
ALL OF THEIR TRAINING WOULD BE DONE RIGHT HERE.
UH, IT WOULD BE EIGHT WEEKS, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE THAN EIGHT WEEKS OF TRAINING.
UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO START THIS, UH, OUR FIRST CLASS.
WE'D LIKE TO START IT IN JUNE.
UH, THAT WAY WE CAN GET 'EM THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND BE READY FOR DEPLOYMENT, UH, WHEN SCHOOL STARTS IN AUGUST.
UH, I, I THINK IT'S AN AWESOME PROGRAM.
WE, WE, WE SENT THE TRAINING SYLLABUS TO THE ACADEMY THAT TRAINS ALL OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
THEY APPROVED IT, UH, WITH THE BLESSING OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA TRAINING COUNCIL.
SO WE ARE READY TO GET THIS THING MOVING AND GET IT STARTED.
AND I THINK FOR US, UH, WE JUST NEED TO KIND OF TELL OUR CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE WE LOOKING FOR? UH, THE ROLE IS SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER.
IT'S A CLASS THREE LAW ENFORCEMENT DESIGNATION.
UH, IT'S A UNIFORM POSITION, IT'S AN ARMED POSITION.
UH, THEY HAVE ARREST POWERS, UH, AND THEY HAVE ALL THE POWERS OF ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ON THE SCHOOL GROUNDS, UH, THAT THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO.
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK, JOE, SHERIFF? I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING LEAD ON THIS.
UM, WE HAVE FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN BLUFFTON THAT CURRENTLY ARE NOT STAFFED BY CLASS THREE OR HIGHER OFFICERS.
AND I THINK THAT THIS PROGRAM IS GONNA ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THESE POSITIONS, AND IT'S GONNA PROVIDE MORE OF A SECURITY BLANKET FOR OUR SCHOOLS TO INCLUDE OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
SO WE'RE DEFINITELY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
WE'RE EXCITED TO BE PART OF IT.
WHO, WHO DO WE WANT TO ATTRACT? I THINK WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOT AN ENORMOUS NUMBER OF RETIRED MILITARY FOLKS HERE.
THEY MAY HAVE CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOLS.
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AND WITH THE, WITH THE PROGRAM THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER.UM, THEY'LL BE HOME WHEN THEIR CHILDREN ARE HOME, NOT IN SCHOOL.
AND, UM, AND I'VE ALWAYS SAID, YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, SHERIFF, WE, WE NEED TO GET INTO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IF WE, IF WE WAITED UNTIL HIGH SCHOOLS WERE TOO LATE.
I'M, I'M GLAD THAT YOU TOOK THE LEAD ON IT.
UM, I'M EXCITED TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME PEOPLE IN, BUT I REALLY THINK THE YOUNG RETIRED MILITARY PEOPLE ARE, THEY'RE JUST MADE FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE GONE THROUGHOUT OUR CAREERS, UH, IN THE COUNTY OF BEAUFORT, AND WE'VE HAD CONVERSATION AFTER CONVERSATION WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M RETIRED, I'D LIKE TO FIND SOMETHING TO DO.
AND THEN YOU START TALKING TO 'EM, AND THEY'RE A RETIRED TEACHER, OR RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT, RETIRED FIRE DEPARTMENT, RETIRED MILITARY, RETIRED BANKERS, RETIRED, I MEAN, RETIRED, THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER.
AND THEY'RE STILL, STILL AT AN AGE THAT THEY COULD, UM, THEY COULD DO THIS JOB WITH NO PROBLEM AT ALL OF ANY KIND.
UM, AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE.
YES, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, THOSE THAT ARE STILL, THAT STILL FEEL LIKE THEY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE, THAT MAYBE HAVE ALWAYS LOOKED AT LAW ENFORCEMENT AS BEING A JOB, BUT BECAUSE OF THE PAY AND BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE WORKING CONDITIONS AND FAMILIES AND, AND ALL THAT, THEY JUST DIDN'T WANNA DO IT.
BUT HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO MAKE $45,000 A YEAR STARTING PAY TO WORK BASICALLY THE SCHEDULE OF THE TEACHING AND SUPPORT STAFF OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD SCHEDULE.
IT IS, UH, TO HAVE BENEFITS, UH, TO BE IN THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND TO BE ABLE TO BRING THEIR MATURITY, UH, THEIR LIFE EXPERIENCE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGED KIDS WHO WILL BENEFIT GREATLY FROM JUST HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SOCIALIZE AND BE AROUND, UH, THESE FOLKS THAT BRING A LOT TO THE TABLE.
AND I, WE, IN OUR COMMUNITIES, YOU TAKE BLUFFTON AND BEAUFORT AND, AND IN THE COUNTY AND THEN IN PORT ROYAL, THOSE PEOPLE ARE HERE.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THINGS TO DO.
AND I JUST THINK THIS IS AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO, YOU KNOW WHAT, JUST DO IT KINDA LIKE NIKE.
UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, THE TRAINING IS, I THINK THEY'LL ENJOY THE TRAINING.
AGAIN, IT'S ALL DONE RIGHT HERE.
THEY, THEY'LL STAY AT HOME, THEY'LL SLEEP IN THEIR OWN BED, THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN PILLOW, AND THEN THEY CAN COME TO TRAINING.
AND ONCE THEY'RE CERTIFIED, UH, THEN THEY'LL START THE SCHOOL YEAR, UH, AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.
SO, I MEAN, I KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY REPRESENTS THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.
SO WHAT ELSE, WHAT ELSE YOU THINK THIS, UM, THIS PROGRAM'S GONNA DO IN TOTALITY FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? I THINK, I THINK THIS PROGRAM, ONE WILL BE ABLE TO GET US OVER THE TOP.
I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET A POLICE OFFICER IN EVERY SCHOOL IN BEFORD COUNTY, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
A POLICE OFFICER AND I, AND I, AND THE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
THERE'S A LOT OF TRAINING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS JOB.
AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A SECURITY OFFICER.
THIS IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE WELL-TRAINED, UH, IN THIS.
AND I, I THINK THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S, THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
AND I THINK WITH THE YOUNG CHILDREN TARGETING THE RETIREES MM-HMM.
THEY'VE GOT THE LIFE EXPERIENCE FOR THE, FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
AND, AND TO GET THAT STARTED OFF.
SO I THINK
POSSIBLY A THIRD COMING ON BOARD.
SO, I MEAN, IN TOTAL, AND HERE'S THE THING.
IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU WORK AT THE CITY OF BEAUFORT OR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, UH, OR PORT ROYAL, OR FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT YOU TO COME TO WORK.
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE A CLASS THREE SRO, DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU GO, DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU'RE EMPLOYED BY.
THE WORK ENVIRONMENT'S BASICALLY THE SAME.
THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENCE IN UNIFORM THAT YOU WEAR AT THE SCHOOL THAT YOU'RE ASSIGNED TO, UH, THE PAY.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE BASICALLY THE SAME.
SO ALL WE WANT PEOPLE TO DO IS PUT THEIR APPLICATIONS IN, GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM IN DETAIL.
AND IF YOU REALLY HAVE AN INTEREST IN IT, UH, THEN LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GET STARTED.
AND, AND ONE THING THAT I WANT TO HIT ON IS THIS PROGRAM IS IMPORTANT AND, AND REASON BEING IS NONE OF OUR KIDS SHOULD FEEL AFRAID GOING TO SCHOOL.
UM, THEY SHOULD BE GOING TO SCHOOL TO LEARN AND NOT WORRYING ABOUT THEIR SAFETY.
UM, AND WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS PROVIDES ANOTHER LAYER OF SAFETY FOR ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS, ESPECIALLY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
UM, IT ALSO PROVIDES PEOPLE WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO MENTOR THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN.
AND SO, LIKE THE SHERIFF SAID, IF YOU TRULY WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE,
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UH, THIS IS A POSITION THAT YOU REALLY, REALLY WILL BE MAKING A DIFFERENCE.I JUST HOPE THE APPLICATION START POURING IN.
AND IF YOU GET MORE THAN, THAN YOU NEED THEN AND, AND WE NEED TO GO TO BEAUFORT OR WE NEED TO GO TO, UH, THE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR, OR PORT ROYAL, WE JUST NEED, WE NEED TO PUT THESE PEOPLE TO WORK.
WE NEED TO FILL THESE VACANCIES, UH, AND LET'S MAKE OUR SCHOOLS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AS SAFE AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN.
AND I THINK THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS PROGRAM, THESE OFFICERS WILL BE TRAINED BY PEOPLE THAT HAVE CHILDREN IN THESE SCHOOLS.
THEY HAVE THE SAME DESIRES, THE OUTCOMES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
WELL, I MEAN, THE GREAT THING ABOUT IT IS THAT WE ARE, WE'LL BE DOING THE TRAINING TOGETHER.
IF YOU GET, IF YOU GET, IF YOU HIRE ONE OR TWO AND YOU HIRE FOUR, AND YOU KNOW, AND I CAN FILL THE NINE THAT WE NEED, WE'RE ALL GONNA BE TRAINING TOGETHER.
SO THIS IS GONNA BE ONE TRAINING SYLLABUS BUS TO BENEFIT, UH, THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM.
I MEAN, THIS IS GOING TO BE, THIS, THIS PROGRAM IS FOR SOUTH CAROLINA AS A WHOLE.
THIS IS NOT JUST FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY.
BUT I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE GOING TO START THIS AND INITIATE, YOU KNOW, THE SRO CLASS THREE POSITION HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
AND WE'RE GONNA SHOW THE STATE IT WORKS.
AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE TRAINING TOGETHER, SHERIFF, IS YOU'RE CREATING A NETWORK BEFORE YOU EVEN GET STARTED.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT SCHOOLS WHERE IF YOU CAN RUN INTO A PROBLEM, YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT YOU CAN CALL AND GET SOME ADVICE OR TALK TO THEM ABOUT THINGS GOING ON IN THEIR SCHOOL AND CURRENT TRENDS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THEIR SCHOOL.
SO IT'S A GREAT COLLABORATION OF ALL THREE DEPARTMENTS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY GETTING TOGETHER, BECAUSE HAVING THAT NETWORK AND PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN RELY ON FOR ADDITIONAL ADVICE IS INVALUABLE.
WELL, I TELL YOU WHAT I MEAN, I WANT, I WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO, TO MAKE THOSE PHONE CALLS OR GROW ONLINE AND RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST THE, THE, THE CLASS THREE SRO, UH, THROUGH ALL AGENCIES.
SO I THINK LINDSEY, IF WE CAN, I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, I THINK IF WE PUT THAT INFORMATION ON THIS VIDEO FOR BLUFFTON, BEAUFORT, PORT ROYAL IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WEBPAGE AND PHONE NUMBERS, UH, I THINK WE'LL HOPEFULLY WE'LL START GETTING CALLS.
THAT SOUND GOOD TO Y'ALL? YES, SIR.
WHEN THE EARTH SHAKES, THE GROUND MOVES AND THINGS START TO FALL, YOU'LL ASK YOURSELF, HOW PREPARED OR UNPREPARED ARE YOU? HAVE YOU REMOVED OBJECTS FROM OVER THE BED AND OVER YOUR HEAD, ANCHORED YOUR POSSESSION SECURELY TO THE WALL? IT WON'T BE A PAIN AND YOU'RE NOT DOING IT IN VAIN? ARE YOUR EMERGENCY KITS PACKED? WHAT ABOUT YOUR FAMILY, YOUR FRIENDS? DO THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO? HOW TO GET IN TOUCH AND WHERE TO MEET? DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DROP, COVER AND HOLD ON, COVERING YOUR HEAD AND NECK? WHAT IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OR IN A CAR? AFTER THE SHAKING STOPS, LOOK AROUND.
AND IF YOU'RE TRAPPED, DO NOT MOVE ABOUT STAY CALM.
ONCE EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE IS SAFE, GET PREPARED.
AN AFTERSHOCK COULD BE ON ITS WAY.
SO BEFORE THE EARTH SHAKES, THE GROUND MOVES AND THINGS START TO FALL.
PRACTICE WHAT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AN EARTHQUAKE CAN HAPPEN ANYTIME, ANYWHERE.