Jan 08, 2024 Community Services and Land Use Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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AND I LIKE TO CALL THIS AN ORDER OF COMMUNITY SERVICES AND LAND USE LIMITING.

PLEASE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AMERICA WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH YOU SAY HAPPY

[3. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT]

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

YES, MADAM CHAIRMAN. JUST APPROVED IS MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND WANTS TO GET ON THE FLOOR. OKAY. YOU HAVE TO MAKE MAKE YOUR OWN THE AGENDA OF CHAIRMAN I LIKE THE MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS AGENDA ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT INDEFINITELY UNTIL SUCH TIME AS STAFF CAN CONSULT WITH YOU FOR COUNTY DISTRICT HOUSING TRUST AND ALL THE PARTIES TO THE TO REACH A CONSENSUS ON THE LANGUAGE TO BE USED IN THE RESOLUTION AND THE AGREEMENTS. I'LL SECOND THAT I HAVE THE SAME ISSUES BUT THAT'S OKAY A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR I SAY ALL RIGHT AND THIS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY SO THE OBJECT THAT I WILL OBJECT AS WELL. OKAY, LET'S TAKE A A WELL WE DIDN'T HAVE IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR DISCUSSION ANY DISCUSSION WE DO A ROLL CALL VOTE AND. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THERE IS THERE ARE SOME LANGUAGE JUST IN HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE SORT OF CLARIFIED. WE ARE OBJECTING TO MOVING THIS FORWARD JUST TO PROBABLY WERE DELAYED FOR A WEEK OR TWO BUT THAT'S THE ONLY CONSIDERATIONS THAT I DON'T DESIRE TO SUPPORT THIS WAS JUST SOME LANGUAGE THAT YOU KNOW THESE NEED TO FINE TUNE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. AND SO OH YOU KNOW.

YES, SIR. I'LL OBJECT TO THE MOTION LANGUAGE SAYING THAT IT'S POSTPONED INDEFINITELY. YEAH, I DID TO MRS. GARLAND BUT THE STAFF ATTORNEY THAT'S THE LANGUAGE TO USE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M USING IT. YEAH, I JUST KNOW MY OBJECTION TO THAT. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO POSTPONE WE POSTPONE IT TILL NEXT MONTH BUT IT DEFINITELY SOUNDS LIKE IN TERRIBLY TIME. OKAY, SO UNDER ROLL CALL WHO? ANYONE HAD SOME OTHER COMMENT? SO CAN THEIR ATTORNEY WEIGH IN DOES IT HAVE TO BE INDEFINITELY? I PRESUME THEY WOULD GO TO THE NEXT COMMUNITY SERVICES MEETING? NO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE INDEFINITELY.

WHAT IS THAT? IT MAY NOT BE READY. THERE MAY NOT BE AGREEMENT AMONG ALL THE FOLKS THAT BY NEXT MONTH CONCERNING BUT THE IDEA IS THAT IT WOULD BE DEEP THINGS RIGHT NEVER COME BACK ON IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SET OURSELVES NOT GIVES US ENOUGH TIME THAT'S IT WHAT'S THE NATURE OF THE OBJECTION FROM IT IS WHO'S OBJECTING TO THE LANGUAGE. YEAH WELL I'LL SPEAK TO THEM EVEN WITH THOSE WORDS AND THE CHAIRMAN COULD ACTUALLY WEIGH IN AS WELL. THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE HERE THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH CONSISTENT WITH THE RIGHT WORD. YEAH.

SO THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE WE THE SAME LANGUAGE IN ONE PLACE IT'S THE SAME IN ANOTHER AREA THAT'S ALL AND THERE'S SOME OTHER THERE'S OTHER ENTITIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CONSULTED WITH US HOW MANY TO SEVEN IN THIS THERE ARE 11 PEOPLE.

ONE OF THE ONE OF THE RESULTS ONE OF THEM IS WITH AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT THAT INVOLVED ANY DESPERATE FAMILIES IN ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE IN NOW

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AND THAT'S ONE AND THEN ON THE OTHER IS I UNDERSTAND YOU'VE HEARD JASPER OF TRUST WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON SOME OF THE LANGUAGE WITH REGARD TO THE AGREEMENT THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT ENTERING INTO AND WHAT IS WELL WHAT WHAT DOES THIS AGREEMENT I THOUGHT WE ALREADY HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH YOU IS IS THIS SPECIFIC A PARTICULAR ACTION THAT WE YES, IT IS LOOKING MAKING NEW REQUESTS FOR HOUSING TRUST, THE FISCAL AGENT OR THE POP UP UNIFORM IN THE WORKS AND THAT'S THE LINK. OH I SEE. YEAH.

OKAY YEAH SO THAT'S AGAIN SO IT'S TAKING THEM OUT AND PUTTING PUTTING YOUR FOR JASPER REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST IN IS THAT IT. YES THEY'RE THEIR OWN THEIR OWN FISCAL AGENT TO SPEAK. OKAY. OKAY SO WE NEED LITTLE MORE TIME TO GET INTO THAT. YES SIR. I AM TROUBLED BY THE TERM INDEFINITE LEAVE SO I'M GOING TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT STATING THAT THIS WILL BE MOVED BEFORE THE MEETING TO BE HELD BY THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND LAND USE COMMITTEE OF MARCH 11TH NOW GIVES US A SPECIFIED TWO MONTH PERIOD OF TIME TO ALLOW ALL THE PARTIES GET TOGETHER AND DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. ALL RIGHT.

SECOND BY MR. GORDON ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION OF DISCUSSION FIRST 5 MINUTES.

OH, SURE. I IT'S STILL UNCLEAR FOR ME WHAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE OBJECTING TO. IT DOESN'T LIKE WE'RE CLEAR ON WHO'S REALLY OBJECTING OR WHAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IT IS THE OTHER PARTIES HAVE NOT BEEN CONSULTED SO SO WHAT PARTIES LIKE THE OTHER MUNICIPALITY IS IN JASPER COUNTY SO WHAT IS OUR POSTPONEMENT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE LANGUAGE THEN BECAUSE YOU WANT TO YOU DON'T WANT TO DIP SIX BY THEM WHEN IT GOES TO THEM TO BE NICE TO HAVE SOME SAY SOME TYPE AGREEMENT PRIOR TO WHICH I UNDERSTAND AND I AGREE IT BUT THAT HAS NOT TO DO WITH OUR CURRENT LANGUAGE WHICH WE'RE POSTPONING IT BASED ON THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IN HERE DON'T JUST POSTPONE IT TO ALLOW MORE TIME FOR STAFF STAFF TO COORDINATE WITH THEIR STAFF. YEAH. SO THE POSTPONEMENT IS JUST FOR MORE TIME FOR STAFF NOT FOR SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN HERE BUT THEY COULD BE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES THAT WE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF NOT JUST SCRIBBLES CHANGES.

YES. ONE QUESTION I BROUGHT UP WAS WE DO AFFORDABLE SLASH WORKFORCE HOUSING IF YOU USE THE HUD HOUSING DEVELOPMENT DEFINITION AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOES FROM 30% I TO 120 OUR SAYS IT'S 60 TO 100 AND THE QUESTION IN THE YELLOW THE RED LINE WAS IS THIS WHAT COUNCIL WANTS SO? WE NEED TO WEIGH IN ON THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THE END THERE WERE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS YOU KNOW CAN THEY REALLY DO THIS? IS THIS CAPABLE OF GETTING DONE IN THE EXHIBITS THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THIS IF WE DO THIS THEN CAN THE HOUSING TRUST ACTUALLY DO THE THINGS LISTED IN THE EXHIBIT A THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF IN THERE THIS IS A CHANCE TO MARK THEIR COMES IN STAFF TO LEARN HOW THEY'RE READY. CAN WE EXTEND THAT WE HAVE YOU HAVE TO AND YEAH YEAH AND THAT IS YES AND THEN WERE WONDERING YOU DIDN'T MAKE THIS MOTION TO CONSIDER OF THIS UNTIL NO LATER THAN 11. OH YOU COULD DO IT BEFOREHAND. YES BRING IT BACK NEXT TIME OKAY I WILL CHANGE MY MOTION TO SAY NO LATER THAN THE 11 COMMUNITY SERVICES MEETING.

CARLSON GLOVER YOU CAN YES, I CAN GO ALONG WITH IT. ALL RIGHT.

SO IT'S NO LATER THAN MARCH 11. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE JUST HEAR THIS SPECIFIC MOTION AGAIN ADVANTAGE WITH UPDATED MOTION WOULD BE CAN I GIVE YOUR KNOW I'M ALTERING THIS TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF THOSE TWO AGENDA ITEMS TO A TIME CERTAIN OF NO LATER THAN MARCH THE 11TH OF 2024. I WOULD ALLOW THEM TIME TO MEET WITH ALL OF THE PARTIES MAKE

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RIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS OH, ALL RIGHT. SO MR. COUNCILMAN YORK WAS FINE WITH THAT CHANGE.

WE'LL HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. CHAIRMAN PERSIMMON? YES. COMMITTEE VICE CHAIR GLOVER. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER REED'S YES. COUNCILMEMBER BROWN. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER CUNNINGHAM YES. COUNCILMEMBER TAVEN IT YES. COUNCILMEMBER DODSON YES.

VICE CHAIR MCGOWAN YES. CHAIRMAN WALTER HAS ALREADY VOTED COMMITTEE CHAIR HOWARD YES. THE MOTION PASSES OKAY. THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME OF NOW NO AGENDA NOW WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ON THE MOTION RIGHT? I WANT TO SAY THAT YES NOW I NEED TO VOTE ON THE AMENDED MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

RIGHT WITHOUT ANY DO WE NEED TO TAKE A ROLL CALL. NO ON 5/2 TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED. OKAY AND I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION I HAVE A SECOND ONE.

A SECOND AS AMENDED ALL IN FAVOR. OKAY.

[5. CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD]

I LIKE TO READ OUR RULES OF ENGAGEMENT FOR THAT EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO IS RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK SHALL LIMIT COMMENTS TO 3 MINUTES AND OBSERVE THE FOLLOWING PROTOCOL ADDRESS CHAIRMAN AND HIS SPEAKING AVOID DISRESPECT OF COUNCIL IN ANY PERSONALITIES CONFINE THEMSELVES TO QUESTIONS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF COUNCIL.

BE MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL OF THOSE WHO ARE PRESENT OTHERS WHO MAY BE WATCHING ON TELEVISION AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON IS MR. ROBERT SIMILAR AND IF HE'LL COME AND STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND THE SUBJECT IS AGENDA ITEM ARTS AND GERMAN I TRY ON THE END NOW WE WELL IT ISN'T AGENDA ITEM PASS OF THE PARKS OR SO IT'S APPROPRIATE TO SPEAK WITH ORDINARY IF YOU CAN SPEAK WE WOULD PREFER YOU GO AHEAD AND SPEAK YOU WANT TO WAIT? OH I MIGHT BE SOMEWHERE ELSE TO BE. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YES, SIR.

MR. GLOVER. MR. DAWSON, GOOD TO SEE YOU TOO.

HAPPY NEW YEAR. THE ISSUE OF THE PASS OF PARKS THE BUSINESS PLAN BUSINESS WHAT IS THE QUESTION? WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING? IS THIS A BUSINESS PLAN AND WHAT'S DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND FRIENDS PROGRAMS? ARE THEY THE SAME? I'M HERE REPRESENTING FRIENDS WHITEHALL AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIG QUESTIONS WE DON'T REALLY WHAT THIS BUSINESS PLAN IS SUPPOSED TO DO IF IT ADDRESS THE FRIENDS PROGRAM AND IT JUST ADDRESSES OTHER BUSINESS PROGRAMS WHY THE CITIES MANAGING THE FRIENDS PROGRAM FOR FRIENDS OF WHITEHALL WHITEHALL PARK BUT THERE'S OTHER PARKS AT THE COUNTY MANAGERS. I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE THERE'S A LOT OF SINCE 2018 WHEN FRIENDS OF WHITEHALL STARTED WE'VE HAD OVER 6000 SUPPORTERS AND THEY THEY'RE STILL WE HAVE OUR FACEBOOK PAGE, WE HAVE OUR MEDIA SITES, WE STILL OUT AND TALK WITH THOSE PEOPLE WE HAD $1,000,000 DONATED THAT WAS GIVEN TOWARDS PURCHASE OF WHITEHALL THE 100,000 AND WE HAVE SUBSTANTIAL FUNDS STILL IN THE WE'RE WILLING TO PURCHASE ANOTHER OAK TREE TO REPLACE THE ONE THAT FELL DOWN THIS PAST BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THE PROGRAM THAT NOW EXISTS AND THE RULES THAT ARE BEING APPLIED TOWARDS US ARE SO ONEROUS THAT WE CAN'T WE HAVE PEOPLE SIGNING AGREEMENTS OR SAYING THAT THEY WILL NOT DO THIS AND THEY HAVE NO RECOURSE IF THEY SHOULD BE INJURED BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE BEING FORCED TO SIGN.

SO THIS BUSINESS PLAN HERE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MATCH WITH THE PARTS OF PARKS IS TELLING

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[6. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT]

SHE IS OUR BUSINESS LICENSE ADMINISTRATOR AND SHE'S GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION WHAT OUR BUSINESS LICENSE DEPARTMENT CONSIST OF , WHAT REVENUES THEY COLLECT AND SOME OF THE ENABLING LEGISLATION WHICH THEY OPERATE. SO BRANDI, ARE YOU ALL WELL? THANK YOU. I'M BRANDI WITH THE BUSINESS LICENSE OFFICE.

ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT? NO, I'M OKAY. OKAY.

I'M BRANDI WITH THE COUNTY BUSINESS SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND I'M HERE TO LET YOU GUYS DO A LITTLE BIT MY OFFICE AND WHAT WE DO MAYBE IT'S NOT WORKING. OKAY.

I'M OF SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD. SO THIS IS OUR TEAM. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CAROLYN WILSON SHE'S A LEAD BUSINESS LICENSE SPECIALIST AND SHE'S WITH THE BUSINESS LICENSE OFFICE SINCE 2008 I HAVE MICHAEL COSTA IS A BUSINESS LICENSE SPECIALIST AND HE'S BEEN WITH THE COUNTY SINCE 21 AND ASHLEY PEEPLES IS A REVENUE COLLECTOR HE'S BEEN HERE SINCE 22 AND THEN MYSELF I'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY SINCE 2019 AND OUR OFFICE WE PROCESS BUSINESS LICENSE ARE RENEWALS, WE COLLECT HOSPITALITY AND ACCOMMODATION TAX, WE COLLECT THE ADMISSION FEE, WE VERIFY BUSINESS LICENSES FOR BUILDING PERMITS AND WORK DIRECTLY WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING ZONING AUDITOR, CODE ENFORCEMENT, BUILDING CODES AND ASSESSORS. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BUSINESS LICENSE IS THE BUSINESS LICENSE TAX IS THE PRIVILEGE OF DOING BUSINESS WOULD BE FOR ACCOUNTING EVERY BUSINESS OR WORKING WORKING OR AND THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY NEEDS BE FOR ACCOUNTING BUSINESS LICENSE THE BUSINESS LICENSE TAX IS BASED GROSS REVENUE FROM THE PREVIOUS CALENDAR YEAR OR FISCAL YEAR AND DEDUCTIONS APPLY FOR BUSINESS LICENSE IS OBTAINED IN ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY ALL SHORT TERM RENTALS REQUIRE A BUSINESS LICENSE AND TWO OR MORE LONG TERM RENTALS REQUIRE A LICENSE. OUR LAST YEAR REVENUE WAS APPROXIMATELY 3.3 MILLION DOING ABOUT 5000 BUSINESS LICENSES AND 330 OF THOSE WERE SHORT TERM RENTAL LICENSES AND HOSPITALITY TAX IS A 2% TAX ON ALL FOOD OR BEVERAGE SALES PREPARED OR MODIFIED FOR IMMEDIATE CONSUMPTION AND ADDITION ESTABLISHMENT LICENSE ON PREMISE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION ARE SUBJECT TO A HOSPITALITY TAX. OUR REVENUE LAST YEAR WAS 3.4 MILLION. THE ACCOMMODATION TAX IS A LOCAL 3% TAX OR ANYONE LEASING OR RENT SLEEPING ACCOMMODATIONS FOR A PERIOD LESS THAN 90 DAYS AND OUR LAST YEAR REVENUE WAS 2.5 MILLION. THE ADMISSION FEE IS A 2.5% FEE IMPOSED ON THE AMOUNT CHARGE FOR THE ENTRY INTO AN ADMISSION BASED PLACE OF AMUSEMENT AND ENTERTAINMENT TO WHICH AN ADMISSION TAXES IMPOSED BY STATE. THIS INCLUDES THE MUNICIPALITIES AND AND THE AND THAT'S GOLF COURSES, MOVIE THEATERS, BOWLING ALLEYS AND OUR REVENUE WAS 3.2 MILLION WE DO YOU WANT US TO ASK QUESTIONS YOU CAN ON THE ADMISSION FEE IS THAT A IS THAT PORTION GO BACK TO THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT THEY HAVE ADMISSION OR DOES IT GO UNDER? I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT . WE WE THINK WE WERE SAYING THAT ONCE.

OKAY. OKAY. BUT MUNICIPAL ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COLLECT THAT ONLY COUNTIES. YEAH OKAY GOOD KNOW SO SOUTH CAROLINA STANDARDIZE THEIR BUSINESS LICENSES ACROSS THE STATE. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT SOUTH CAROLINA GENERAL ASSEMBLY ASKED HOUSE ACT 176 IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020 AND IT'S

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WE NOW WE ARE ALL LICENSING BODIES MUST ACCEPT THE STANDARD BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED BY THE REVENUE AND FISCAL AFFAIRS OFFICE AND WE ALMOST UTILIZE THE LOCAL BUSINESS LICENSE RENEWAL PORTAL IT'S HOSTED AND MANAGED BY THE REVENUE OF FISCAL AFFAIRS AND MUST BE AVAILABLE TO ALL BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STATE.

BUT WE MUST STILL ACCEPT PAYMENTS PERSON OR BY MAIL. THIS IS A CALENDAR FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS SO WITH THE STANDARDIZATION THE BUSINESS LICENSE STANDARDIZATION ACT ESTABLISHED A STANDARD CLASS SCHEDULE FOR BUSINESSES ARE IN THE CLASSES USING THE LATEST EDITION OF THE NORTH AMERICAN INDUSTRY CLASSIFICATION SYSTEMS CODE BASED ON PROFITABILITY THE ,CLASS SCHEDULE MUST BE UPDATED EVERY ODD YEAR AND APPROVED BY ORDINANCE.

THIS IS WHAT WE JUST DID IN DECEMBER AND THE NEXT CODE IS REVIEWED REVISED EVERY FIVE YEARS TO KEEP THE CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM CURRENT WITH CHANGES THE ECONOMIC ACTIVITIES. THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE APPROVAL BY COUNCIL AND THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, GO AHEAD.

HOW MANY BUSINESS I SAW THE SLIDE BUT QUICKLY HOW MANY ARE LICENSED IN TOWN RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 5000. YOU WILL THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAD WHERE I'D ROUGHLY WHERE WOULD YOU SAY MOST OF THE TAX MONEY IN UNINCORPORATED COUNTY IS GENERATED FROM FOUR BY ONE? THE REST OF THEM ARE NOT PERMITTED SO IT TAKES LONGER BUT THAT'S WHERE THE MOST OF THEM ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE PERMITTED THERE. AND HOW DO YOU TRACK DOWN PEOPLE WHO HAD A BUSINESS LICENSE AND LET THEM EXPIRE AND ? SO WE GO THROUGH EVERY YEAR IF THEY HAVEN'T RENEWED WE REACH TO THEM AND IF IT'S BEEN YEARS WE CLOSE IT BUT MOST OF THE TIME WOULD COME BACK AND THEN WE WOULD JUST GO BACK ON THEM IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CURRENT. YES. SO IT'S THE HOSPITALITY TAX SOME OF THE STATE IN THE COUNTY. SO IT'S COUNTY WHEN A PERSON MAKES AN APPLICATION FOR A BUSINESS LICENSE, HOWEVER THEY ESTABLISH THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S GROSS PROCEEDS SO THE FIRST YEAR THEY ESTIMATE THE REVENUE FOR THE FIRST YEAR THE SECOND YEAR WE DREW UP THEIR ACCOUNT MEANING WE GO OFF THEIR TAX RETURNS AND IF THEY OVERESTIMATED WE WOULD ISSUE A CREDIT FOR THE NEXT YEAR IF THEY UNDERESTIMATED THEY PAY ON THE DIFFERENCE THEY PRODUCED THEIR TAX RETURN. EVERY BUSINESS IS TO SUBMIT A TAX RETURN TO GET THE LICENSE TO RENEW HIS HER 5000 TAX RETURNS.

IT TAKES US A LITTLE WHILE BUT WE DO IT JUST THE FIRST PAGE IS FOR YOU.

YES, SIR. ARE YOU OKAY? HOW DO YOU HOW YOU TRACK DOWN BUSINESSES THAT DIDN'T APPLY FOR A BUSINESS LICENSE AND I'M DOING BUSINESS ACCOUNTING SO WE GET CALLS SOMETIMES AND THEN CODE ENFORCEMENT OH WE CODE WE HAVE A ENFORCE WE HAVE AN ENFORCER THAT'S LAST YEAR SO THE BUSINESS LICENSE STAFF DOES NOT DO ENFORCEMENT SO THEY'LL SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS IF HEAR OF A BUSINESS THAT'S GOING IN WE HEAR FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORING BUSINESS. WE HEAR FROM OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT. PRIVATE CITIZENS WILL INFORM US IF A BUSINESS GOES IN AND WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. OUR FIRST STEP IS TO SEND A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OUT THERE AND TO EDUCATE IT IS ALWAYS OUR FIRST STEP IN ENFORCEMENT.

WE INFORM THOSE WHO ARE IN NONCOMPLIANCE OF WHAT THEY'RE IN NONCOMPLIANCE AND HOW THEY NEED TO FIX IT. WE GIVE THEM A PRETTY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME TO BECOME COMPLIANT AND IF THEY DON'T WE HAVE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS UNDER THE LAW THAT WE CAN TAKE BUT FOR THE MOST PART FOLKS PLAY BY THE RULES AND IF FOR SOME REASON THEY DON'T HAVE IT AND THEY'RE NOTIFIED THAT THEY NEED IT, THEY IN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS YOU MISS JIM HOLZMAN BESIDES STRIP ISLAND IS THERE ANY HOTELS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF COUNTY? YES, SIR. WHERE WERE THEY? THEY ARE THE CITY OF BEAUFORT OR NO SIR IT WOULD BE WE HAVE THE ONES IN OKATIE SOME IN BLUFFTON ON THE SOUTH A ROAD.

YES, BLUFFTON HAS A FEW I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THEM BUT I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION OF YOUR LIKE BUT NONE ON THE NORTH ROAD SIDE I DON'T THE ANSWER TO THAT. I DON'T WANT TO I THINK I CAN FIND OUT FOR YOU YEAH THAT'S CUTE YEAH WELL THAT VERY INFORMATIVE AND INTERESTING WE

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I WANT TO GET SOME REALLY GOOD DATA. AWESOME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO REPORT THAT I MAY HAVE ON THEM? OKAY, NOW WE HAVE THIS ALL UNDER. GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

IF YOU RECALL BACK IN AUGUST OF LAST REBECCA BURGESS WAS HIRED AS THE NEW ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE DEPARTMENT AND SINCE THEN SHE HAS BEEN AMAZING. SO ASKED HER TO COME AND PRESENT TO YOU JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE OF THE DEPARTMENT WHAT SHE HAS DONE IN THE FIVE MONTHS THAT SHE HAS BEEN THERE AND WHAT HER PLANS ARE FOR 2024 AND BEFORE SHE STARTS WHEN SHE RATHER WE WAIT TILL END FOR QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER SHE PREFERS IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU SURE I WILL SHARE SOME GREAT WITH YOU AND I HAVE TIME FOR YOU TO ANSWER 13 OKAY.

FIRST LET ME SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU 2023 FOR THE ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE DEPARTMENT WAS A VERY GOOD YEAR IN TERMS OF US BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES, COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS COUNTY AND AS THE NEW DIRECTOR IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF COUNTY AND TO CONTINUE THE WONDERFUL WORK OF THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR MR. STEVE DONALDSON AND I TREMENDOUSLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF OUR ACA ORDER AND TONIGHT I WANT TO IF IT'S OKAY TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME HIGHLIGHTS I HAVE A HANDOUT FOR YOU. I CAN APPROACH YOUR AS YOU'LL SEE WHEN HAVE YOUR HAND OUT IN FRONT OF YOU. WE PROVIDE SERVICES ON COMPREHENSIVE CONTINUUM THESE SERVICES RANGE FROM EVERYTHING FROM PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM STARTING TO USE SUBSTANCES WHICH WE KNOW IS THE SAFEST WAY NOT TO DEVELOP PROBLEM WITH ALCOHOL AND DRUGS IS TO NOT USE THEM AT ALL. UNFORTUNATELY THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO EVERYONE. SOME PEOPLE ARE PRESCRIBED MEDICATIONS OR PROVIDED WITH MEDICATION BY FAMILY MEMBERS AND SO THEN WE MOVE INTO THE REALM OF INTERVENTION FOR THOSE WHO EXPERIMENT WITH SUBSTANCES MAYBE USE THEM SOCIALLY AND. THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM THAT IS CONSIDERED A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER BUT CERTAINLY PROVIDE INTERVENTION TO INFORM PEOPLE ABOUT SOME OF THE THE CONSEQUENCES THAT CAN COME IF THEY CONTINUE TO SUBSTANCES AND THEN WE CONTINUE INTO TREATMENT TREATMENT IS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE A DIAGNOSED SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER BASED ON THE STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO MEET DIAGNOSTIC CRITERIA TO HAVE THAT AND FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A MILD MODERATE OR EVEN A SEVERE SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER, WE HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS TREATMENT WHICH ENCOMPASS OUTPATIENT WHERE PEOPLE COME IN FOR INDIVIDUAL COUNSELING, GROUP COUNSELING ONE OR TWO TIMES A WEEK AND WE ALSO HAVE INTENSIVE OUTPATIENT SERVICES FOR ADULTS WHERE THEY COME IN FOR UP TO 9 HOURS OF COUNSELING SERVICES PER WEEK. AND THEN FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN BARKING ON RECOVERY, THEY'RE NEW TO RECOVERY OR THEY'VE BEEN IN LONG TERM RECOVERY FROM A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER AND THEY HAVE HAD A RECURRENCE OF SYMPTOMS AND ARE USING WE OFFER RECOVERY SERVICES TO EITHER HELP GET THEM SOLID INTO THEIR RECOVERY JOURNEY OR TO HELP THEM GET BACK ON TRACK WITH RECOVERY. SO THAT'S ENCOMPASSED IN THE MISSION STATEMENT THAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP OF THE HANDOUT. SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM 2023 OUR PREVENTION TEAM THAT'S OUT THERE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE NOT USE OR MINIMIZE SUBSTANCE USE DOES A TREMENDOUS JOB. THEY ARE RECOGNIZED NOT ONLY IN REGION BUT ACROSS THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA FOR BEING A REVERED AND A VERY BUSY PREVENTION TEAM WITH.

A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. ONE THING WE DID IN 2023 AS WE CONTINUED PROJECT MARIPOSA WHICH OUTREACH FOR PREVENTION TO OUR SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY WELL RECEIVED WE HAVE HAD PREVENTION EDUCATE OVER WHAT'S BEEN NOW OVER 4000

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SOME FACT IS THAT OF ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH DRINKING AND BINGE DRINKING AND UNDERAGE DRINKING AND ACCIDENTS RELATED TO DRINKING ARE STILL THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS.

WE'VE HAD OVER 60,000 PEOPLE VIEW OUR FACEBOOK PAGE ON WHICH WE PRESENT PREVENTION MESSAGES AND WE PROMOTE EVENTS FOR THE PUBLIC. I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT THIS YEAR WE'VE PROVIDED TRAINING FOR CITIZENS OVER HUNDRED CITIZENS ON HOW TO RESPOND TO OPIOID OPIOID POISONING CAN HAPPEN FOR A LOT OF REASONS NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTIVELY KNOWINGLY USING DRUGS BUT ALSO FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN ACCIDENTALLY INGEST OPIOIDS AND THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE INGESTING OR THEY ARE PRESCRIBED AND THEY TAKE TOO MUCH. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE MORE THAN 400 BOXES THAT'S 800 DOSES OF LIFE SAVING NARCAN NASAL SPRAY TO GET THE NUMBER OF FATALITIES DOWN SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO BE REVIVED AND GIVEN ENOUGH TIME FOR EMS TO RESPOND TO BE ABLE TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. AND SO NOW WE HAVE CITIZENS WALKING AROUND, MYSELF INCLUDED, WHO CARRY NARCAN EVERYWHERE GO AND SO THAT WE CAN BE THERE TO SAVE SOMEONE EXPERIENCING DRUG POISONING. I HOPE THAT IN 2024 WE WILL AT LEAST DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF NARCAN DOSES THAT WE GET OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY OPTIMISTIC BUT WE CAN DO IT.

WE ALSO RECEIVED A FIVE YEAR DRUG FREE COMMUNITIES GRANT THAT WAS AWARDED TO US FROM THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL WHICH WILL FOCUS ON ADOLESCENT ALCOHOL USE AND MARIJUANA USE.

MARIJUANA USE IS NOT THE SAME AS IT USED TO BE IN THE PAST. IT IS MUCH MORE POTENT MUCH ACCESSIBLE AND IT IS ALSO LACED WITH OTHER CHEMICALS INCLUDING WHICH IS LEADING OUR ADOLESCENTS TO UNINTENDED OVERDOSE AND POTENTIALLY FATALITIES.

SO IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER THAT WE CONTINUE TO GET THE PREVENTION MESSAGE OUT THERE AND TO HELP THEM BECOME AWARE OF THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH SUBSTANCE.

THIS ALSO INCLUDES WORKING WITH PARENTS AND FAMILY MEMBERS AS WELL AND SCHOOLS ARE OUR COALITION THAT WE HAVE BUILT TO US WITH THE DRUG-FREE COMMUNITIES GRANT WE ALSO HAVE PROVIDED EDUCATION ON VAPING TO STUDENTS AND PARENTS AND SCHOOL PERSONNEL AND WE'VE HAD STUDENTS EVEN COMPLETE SOMETHING CALLED THE CLASS ACTION CURRICULUM.

THIS WAS THROUGH OUR BIG BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHERE THEY LEARNED LAWS AND CONSEQUENCES OF USE MOVING INTO THE REALM OF INTERVENTION AND TREATMENT THAT I TALKED ABOUT WE ADDED A MEDICATION ASSISTED TREATMENT COORDINATOR THIS IS A COUNSELOR AS A SEASONED COUNSELOR WHO HELPS PEOPLE GAIN ACCESS TO COUNSELING AND MEDICATION AND FOR OPIOID USE DISORDERS.

WE'VE EMBEDDED A FULL TIME COUNSELOR IN THE COUNTY DETENTION CENTER THAT PROVIDES SERVICES ASSESSMENT AND EDUCATION AND REFERRALS TO TREATMENT TO HELP THEM REENTRY . WE'VE ALSO SERVED IN ADULT OUTPATIENT.

WE'VE ADMITTED 165 ADULTS, 119 ADOLESCENTS INTO OUTPATIENT TREATMENT, 122 INTO ADULT INTENSIVE OUTPATIENT TREATMENT AND NOW MORE THAN 245 INTO OUR ALCOHOL DRIVER ACTION PROGRAM WHICH IS OUR DUI INTERVENTION THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHEN THEY HAVE A DUI CONVICTION THROUGH THE DMV AND THEY THEIR DRIVING PRIVILEGES ARE SUSPENDED.

AND WE ALSO HAVE PEER SUPPORT COUNSELORS, STAFF. THESE ARE PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE OF ADDICTION AND RECOVERY ARE IN LONG TERM RECOVERY AND CAN HELP GUIDE PEOPLE NEW TO RECOVERY AND ENGAGE THEM INTO SERVICES AND CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP ENGAGED IN TREATMENT. WE'VE ADMITTED 135 PEOPLE TO THAT SERVICE AND THEN TO TO SUMMARIZE WHEN YOU ASK PEOPLE WHETHER OUR DEPARTMENT IS MEETING THEIR NEEDS 93% OF THE

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SO WITH THAT SUMMARY BE HAPPY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE I'M SURE YOU KNOW I JUST HAVE TO YES SIR. BEFORE PEOPLE IN THE TREATMENT AND ADMISSIONS AREA HOW MANY OF YOU SAY A RELATED OPIOID DERIVATIVE? THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN COME IN WITH A DIAGNOSIS OF MULTIPLE. SO IT MAY BE THAT THAT THEY AN OPIOID USE DISORDER DIAGNOSED AND IN ADDITION THEY HAVE MULTIPLE OTHERS THE NUMBER ONE DIAGNOSIS WE WOULD SEE THE HIGHEST WOULD BE ALCOHOL USE DISORDER PROBABLY THAN FOLLOWED BY CANNABIS MARIJUANA USE DISORDER AND THEN ALTHOUGH OPIOID USE DISORDER IS A SMALLER NUMBER PROBABLY THE THIRD AND I CAN GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS IF YOU WANT THAT I DON'T NEED TO BUT YEAH IT'S NOT THE HIGHEST HOWEVER WE DO A HAVE SOME HIGH RISK CONSEQUENCES WITH THAT THOSE PRESCRIPTION ITEMS OR STREET BOTH ARE YOU ON THE ALCOHOL DRIVER SAFETY IS 245 ADMISSIONS AND ONE PERIOD OF TIME OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS FROM JANUARY 1ST OF 2023 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST OF 2023 BY THE MAGISTRATES COURT.

YES MANY OF THEM ARE SIR AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS IS THAT ALLOW THEM TO SUSPEND THEIR LICENSE IF THEY COMPLETE THE PROGRAM IF THEY SUCCESSFULLY THE PROGRAM WHICH INVOLVES COUNSELING GROUP COUNSELING ASSESSMENT AND RANDOM URINE DRUG SCREENS. OKAY, GREAT.

THANK OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU THEN. YES, YOU MENTIONED VAPING AND AND I SAW SOMEWHERE AND PROBABLY ON THE INTERNET IT SHOWED THE DAMAGE TO THE OF VAPING. IS THAT REAL? IT'S IN IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME IF A YOUNGSTER IS VAPING BY TIME THEY GET INTO THE TWENTIES THEY COULD HAVE INTERNAL DAMAGE. IT'S PERMANENT. YES, SIR.

MR. GLOVER IT IS VAPING IS NOT SAFE. A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL USE VAPING AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO SMOKING CIGARETS TO STUDENTS. YES AND VAPING IS DEFINITELY MORE POPULAR AMONG YOUTH. IT IS THEIR GO TO MORE SO THAN CIGARETS IT'S VERY POPULAR AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE TO DO THAT BUT IN NO WAY IS IT IS IT SAFE ? IT CAUSES PHYSICAL HARM. YES, IT'S HIGHLY ADDICTIVE YES .

IT'S STILL EASY FOR THEM TO GET VAPE AND NOT ONLY DO THEY VAPE NICOTINE BUT THEY ALSO CAN VAPE CANNABIS MARIJUANA, THC OIL AND THIS LEGAL GRAY NOT AND NOT VERY ADOLESCENTS OR YOUNG PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SELL THEM TO THEM AND WE DO HAVE A SIGN OUR PROGRAM WHICH IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM WHERE WE GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WE'LL HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S NOT OLD ENOUGH TO BUY TOBACCO OR OR PRODUCTS ATTEMPT TO BUY AND WE'LL FIND OUT IF IN FACT SELLING TO THEM AND IF THEY ARE THEN THEY HAVE TO DO EDUCATION FROM US.

YEAH. THANK THANK YOU SIR QUESTIONS AND AGAIN I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOUR REACH YOUR OUTREACH IS STUDENTS. I WAS A MEMBER OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL FOR THEY HAD A STORYBOARD WALK AROUND AND AT LEAST A DOZEN STUDENTS DID SOMETHING ON OPIOID OVERUSE OF SUBSTANCES MARIJUANA SUICIDE RELATED TO THAT SO IT DEFINITELY IS GETTING AND THAT WAS GRADE CLASSES SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY UNDERSTANDING THAT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE 4000 PEOPLE EDUCATED.

ARE YOU DOING YOU'RE DOING THAT IN THE SCHOOLS MORE OF THAT ALSO THROUGH MEDIA THAT ENCOMPASSES THE PRESENTATIONS THROUGH THE SCHOOLS ALSO GOING OUT INTO OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH FAIRS AND EVENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND THE OPIOID MONEY THAT THE COUNTY RECEIVED . YOU COULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A LONG TIME BUT WHAT DO YOU WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN THE BIGGEST BENEFIT TO DATE WITH THAT MONEY? I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST BENEFITS IS IS TO BE ABLE TO DECREASE THE STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH PEOPLE WHO USE SUBSTANCES. WE'RE CONSTANTLY WANTING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND

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THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT VERY FEW DETENTION CENTERS ARE ABLE TO DO AND IS BECAUSE OF THAT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE A COUNSELOR IN THE DETENTION CENTER THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE RELEASED FROM INCARCERATION ARE 40 TIMES MORE LIKELY HAVE DRUG POISONING AND FATALITY THAN THE AVERAGE CITIZEN 40 TIMES THEY OFTEN REENTER USE OF SUBSTANCE HAVE LOST THEIR TO THE SUBSTANCE AND HAVE OVERDOSE. JUST ONE FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU.

I THINK YOU HAVE 245 PEOPLE THIS YEAR IS THE NUMBER AND THEY HAVE PLED GUILTY AND ARE HAVING ALTERNATIVE KIND OF WAY TO WORK OUT THEIR SENTENCING SO TO SPEAK ARE THERE OTHER PROGRAMS IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL WHO RECEIVE LIKE LIVE AND I THINK THERE'S ONE BY THE 25 BUT I DON'T THINK SO WHEN THESE PEOPLE ARE DIVERTED TO YOUR PROGRAM YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY PROGRAM IN THE COUNTY THAT YOU ARE CONVICTIONS CAN BE DIVERTED TO.

IS THAT CORRECT? I'M AWARE OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS THERE MAY BE BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE A PROGRAM THAT IS THAT IS APPROVED BY THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES. RIGHT.

BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHEN A PERSON COMPLETES OUR PROGRAM ACCORDING TO THEIR STANDARDS NOT OURS BUT THEIR RIGOROUS, THEN WE CAN SEND NOTIFICATION TO THE DMV THAT THEY HAVE IN FACT DONE THAT AND THEN THEY WILL DO THE REINSTATEMENT, THE LICENSE.

SO YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER PROGRAMS THAT THE COURT MIGHT USE TO DIVERT PEOPLE INTO FOR FOR DUI? RIGHT. NOT FOR THE DMV AND NOT FOR THE DMV OR APPROVAL BY THE DMV AND YES, SIR, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND IN A SHORT YEAR. AND WE WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU AGAIN WHENEVER YOU WANT TO COME BACK. THANK YOU. YOU'RE DOING GREAT THINGS.

THANK I'LL BE HONORED TO THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

[9. *A portion of this video is without video and audio* RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE PASSIVE PARKS DEPARTMENT BUSINESS USE POLICY, APPLICATION AND FEE SCHEDULE]

THIS IS COMING BACK ME AFTER SOME CHANGE A LOT OF CHANGES IN I THINK MR. ATKINSON OR MS. NEGATIVE OVER THOSE CHANGES IS WHAT YOU GOT IN YOUR PACKAGE IS THE REVISION AND.

I HOPE WE CAN GO OVER WE MAKE NO CHANGES AT THIS TIME. YES, MA'AM.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO HELLO AGAIN.

STEPHANIE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE CHANGES AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SORT OF REFRAME THE CONVERSATION JUST A LITTLE.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE 17 PARKS PARCEL PARKS. WE HAVE TEN MORE ON THE WAY THAT DOES INCLUDE ANY POTENTIAL PARKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPED ON GREENSPACE PROPERTY. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE SCALE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH OUR PARCEL PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THE AVAILABILITY OF THE PUBLIC. IT'S PRETTY VAST AND IT'S GROWING AT A VERY RAPID RATE. OUR PASSIVE PARKS INITIATIVE IS ONLY SIX YEARS OLD AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY. SO WHEN YOU ABOUT USE WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE A POLICY SPECIFIC TO BUSINESSES USING THE PARKS SO WHEN WE AT THIS IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTINUUM IT GOES FROM WE CAN SAY NO BUSINESS ENTITIES MAY USE THE PARK AS THAT'S ONE END OF THE SPECTRUM THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM ANYBODY CAN USE IT FOR ANYTHING THEY WANT TO USE IT FOR SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE IS THE RIGHT ANSWER. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE STARTED PUTTING THE NEEDLE SORT OF WHERE WE THOUGHT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT SPECTRUM TO GOVERN THE USE PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE PARK AND MAKE IT WHERE THOSE WHO WANT TO GO

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OBVIOUSLY ANYONE WHO WANTS ACCESS IS NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH ANY REGULATION AND OTHERS WHO DON'T WANT ANY ACCESS FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN A PRIVATE CITIZEN THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH ANYTHING IS A COMPROMISE. BUT THAT'S I JUST WANTED TO FRAME THAT'S SORT OF WHERE WE ARE WITH IN PUBLIC COMMENT I DON'T WANT TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT THIS BUSINESS POLICY AS IT RELATES TO BEING A BUSINESS PLAN NOT IT IS A BUSINESS USE POLICY FOR BUSINESSES USING THE PARKS I WILL SAY THAT WE APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR FRIENDS GROUPS AND WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS BUT THIS POLICY HAS NO BEARING ON MEMORANDUMS OF AGREEMENT WITH FRIENDS GROUPS AT ALL NONE. THOSE ARE TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE THINGS. WE UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE BUT POLICY HAS NO BEARING AND NO SPECIFIC IMPACT AT ALL ON OUR FRIENDS GROUPS THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM. SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO STEPHANIE. SHE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE AND WE HOPE THAT THEY'RE ACCEPTABLE. I'M SORRY, WEREN'T YOU GOING TO GIVE US A SMALL EXPLANATION OF PASSIVE PARKS FOR PEOPLE ONLINE YOU'RE INTO THAT. OKAY, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

SHE'S ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING SO I'M JUST GOING TO GET OUT OF THE WAY.

ALL RIGHT? YOU I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I USUALLY AM A LITTLE MORE INFORMAL AND BUT I DID HAVE SOME POINTS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SO AM GOING TO READ A STATEMENT FIRST JUST TO SOME OF IT MIGHT REITERATE WHAT MR. ATKINSON BUT THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE POLICY UP AND WE'LL GO THROUGH WHEN I'M WHEN I'M FINISHED WE'LL GO THROUGH AND I CAN HIGHLIGHT THE AREAS THAT WERE CHANGED SO WITH THAT SAID IT AFTERNOON CHAIRWOMAN AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN DECEMBER COUNTY COUNCIL MOTION FOR THE PASS OF PARKS DEPARTMENT BUSINESS USE POLICY TO COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND LAND USE COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER REFINEMENT COUNTY STAFF IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT MADE REVISIONS TO THE POLICY BASED ON COUNCIL'S COMMENTS WHICH STAFF FEEL MEET THE OBJECTIVES OF COUNCIL'S COMMENTS WHILE STILL ALLOWING STAFF MANAGEMENT DISCRETION SINCE THE PROPERTIES UNDER THE PASS OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT PURVIEW WERE PURCHASED THROUGH THE ROLLING CRITICAL LANDS, MANY OF THEM WERE ACQUIRED UNDER TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT RESTRICT OR PROHIBIT BUSINESS AND OR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY. THE PROPERTIES THEREFORE STAFF DISCRETION FOR APPROVAL.

THESE NONPUBLIC USES IS A NECESSITY TO MAINTAIN ADHERENCE TO THE LEGAL AGREEMENTS THE COUNTY HAS ENTERED INTO AS WELL AS THE PROTECTION OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AND PUBLIC ACCESS. THE FIRST MAJOR REVISION WAS THE REMOVAL OF THE WORD PRIVATE FROM THE DOCUMENT. IT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT NO LONGER SAYS PRIVATE. THE INCLUSION OF THAT WORD APPEARS TO HAVE CAUSED SOME CONFUSION WHEREBY SOME BELIEVE THIS POLICY WAS REQUIRING AN ACCESS FEE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. ALTHOUGH PUBLIC ACCESS FEES ARE NOT UNCOMMON FOR PUBLIC AGENCIES TO IMPLEMENT OR EXAMPLE HUNTING ISLAND STATE PARK CHARGES $8 PER PERSON FOR ACCESS TO THE BEACH. THIS IS DEFINITIVELY NOT SUCH A FEE.

THIS POLICY WAS CREATED TO MANAGE NONPUBLIC USE OF COUNTIES PARTS OF PARK PROPERTIES. IS POLICY DOES NOT RESTRICT PUBLIC ACCESS AND IN FACT PROTECTS PUBLIC ACCESS BY CAREFULLY MANAGING NONPUBLIC. THIS POLICY IS ALSO SIMILAR IN NATURE TO OTHER COUNTY LAWS AND POLICIES THAT MANAGE NONPUBLIC BUSINESS AND USE OF PUBLIC LAND INCLUDING THINGS LIKE LEASE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY AND STRUCTURES 70, 70, 30 AGREEMENTS WE HAVE FOR BUSINESS USE OF ACTIVE PARKS

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THIS ANNUAL FEE HAS NOTIFICATION AND MONTHLY RESTRICTION REQUIREMENTS TO ENSURE STAFF ARE ABLE TO APPROPRIATELY MANAGE VARIOUS USE REQUESTS WHILE ALSO STILL ALLOWING APPROPRIATE ACCESS. AS PREVIOUSLY STATED STAFF FEEL THIS REVISED POLICY ACCOMPLISHES BOTH THE CONCERNS VOICED BY COUNCIL AND STAFF'S CONCERNS FOR THE CAREFUL AND APPROPRIATE MANAGEMENT NONPUBLIC USE OF PUBLIC CONSERVATION LAND.

SO I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE SECTIONS THAT I MENTIONED IN THE APPLICABILITY SECTION.

THE FIRST THE SECOND PARAGRAPH HAS IN THAT WHERE IT SAYS THIS INCLUDES I BELIEVE IT'S THE SECOND SENTENCE THERE. THIS INCLUDES THOSE WHO THAT SENTENCE THERE IS AN ADDITION TO HELP CLARIFY WHO THIS POLICY ACTUALLY WOULD APPLY TO AND TOWARDS THE END OF THAT OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS SECTION WE ADJUSTED THE DATES. SO INSTEAD OF THE 30 DAYS IT'S AT LEAST TEN BUSINESS DAYS. SO THAT GIVES STAFF TWO WEEKS ESSENTIALLY BUT TEN BUSINESS DAYS AND THEN THE PAYMENT AND CANCELATION WE'VE ADJUSTED BECAUSE WE ADJUSTED THE REDUCTION OF THE 30 DAYS WE HAD TO ADJUST THE DATES, THE PAYMENT AND THEN THE CANCELATION AND REFUND AS WELL. SO THOSE WENT DOWN TO SEVEN AND THREE AND TWO AND THEN IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH UNDER PAYMENT AND CANCELATION THE LAST SENTENCE WAS THE ADDITION OF THE RESCHEDULING THROUGH THE WRITTEN NOTIFICATION AT NO ADDITIONAL COST TO BE RESCHEDULED. AND THEN THE MAJOR AREA UNDER THE PROPERTY USE AND FEE SCHEDULE IS THE END IS THE CHANGE IN THE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF THE FEE FOR AN HOURLY BASIS WHICH MIGHT BE JUST SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO COME ONCE A YEAR.

FOR INSTANCE, I'VE HAD REQUESTS FOR A GROUP TO COME FROM OUT OF TOWN LIKE THE GIRL SCOUTS THEY MIGHT WANT TO COME AND USE IT FOR A JAMBOREE JUST ONCE A YEAR THE BOY SCOUTS FOR JUST ONCE A YEAR VERSUS IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO A REOCCURRING BASIS ON A MONTHLY BASIS WHICH IS ALSO HOW WE RESERVE OUR CONFERENCE ROOMS IS ON A MONTHLY BASIS FOR A REOCCURRING USE THEN THAT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FEE. SO TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE TO POTENTIAL TYPES OF USES WITHOUT HAVING TO SPECIFY EXACTLY WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE BECAUSE I WOULD NOT BE TO ACTUALLY LIST POSSIBLE USE SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT TO DO ONE PASSIVE PARK PROPERTY. SO THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE MAIN ADJUSTMENTS AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. YES.

WHEN YOU MENTION I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD HONESTLY.

THANK YOU. I THINK YOU COULD EVEN IF WE CAN SCROLL UP JUST LITTLE BIT TO BACK TO THE FUNDING GAP DOWN JUST IN HERE WHERE IT WAS DONE THE FEE SCHEDULE.

PERFECT. I'M NOT EVEN OPPOSED IF YOU WANTED TO BREAK THAT DOWN BY SIZES FOR THE 4 HOURS INCREASED BY SIZES LIKE YOU HAD ORIGINALLY BECAUSE AT LEAST AT LEAST GIVES PEOPLE THE OPTION FOR THE YEARLY OR YOU HAVE TROOPS THAT ARE TEN KIDS AND TROOPS THAT ARE 100 KIDS. SO I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR THAT IF THAT WAS SO DESIRED BY YOU GUYS OR COUNTY COUNCIL AS WELL. BUT I THINK THIS SOLVES THE ISSUE THAT WE IT AND IT STOPS PEOPLE FROM COMING IN AND SETTING UP PHOTO BOOTHS LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT. I THINK TWO WEEKS IS A RELATIVE GOOD TIME PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN A REQUEST AND GIVES YOUR STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO PROCESS THOSE.

I LIKE THE 12 MONTH POLICY ANNUAL FEE. A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN BUILD THAT OUT BY THE MONTH FOR AS WELL. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD THAT I'M SURE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. I KNOW ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE YOU GO INTO DISCUSSION CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO THAT IF YOU'LL SCROLL DOWN TO THE LIABILITY SECTION. SORRY I I WANTED TO POINT THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IT'S IT'S

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SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT FOR CLARITY. THANK YOU.

WHETHER THEY'RE NONPROFIT OR PROFIT, IT'S EITHER WAY THE LIABILITY AND THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENT IS LIKE CORRECT. WE'RE UNDER. THANK YOU.

OH, I THINK NO. YEAH ONE MORE QUESTION. WE STILL HAVE THE POLICY FOR EVENTS. YES. SO IN LARGE EVENTS THAT IS A TOTAL SEPARATE POLICY DIFFERENT PAY SCALE. YES.

OKAY. SO IF YOU COULD SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT FROM WHERE WE ARE.

I'M ON FOUR. IT SAYS RECURRING RIGHT THERE AT THE BREAK.

THE TOP SENTENCE RECURRING USE OF PASSIVE PROPERTIES DEFINED AS USE THAT OCCURS ON A REGULAR BASIS RE REOCCURRING USE MAY ONLY BE PERMITTED ONE TIME PER MONTH.

IS THAT RESTRICTIVE OF SOME OF THE COMPANIES THAT GO THERE MORE THAN ONCE A MONTH? I MEAN IT SAYS ONE SO THEY GET 12 BUSINESSES WHAT THEY GET ONE PER MONTH.

YES, BUT IT'S NOT JUST BUT IT'S THAT'S ON EVERY PROPERTY. SO FOR INSTANCE WE 17 PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. OF PROPERTIES THERE ARE A HANDFUL THAT THAT PROHIBIT BUSINESS BECAUSE WE HAVE RESTRICTIVE EASEMENTS OR CONSERVATION EASEMENTS OR THE SALE AGREEMENTS OR WHATEVER ON THEM.

WE ALSO HAVE OTHER FOR THAT ARE MANAGED BY OTHER ENTITIES THAT HAVE THEIR OWN THAT THEY APPLY TO. SO OYSTER FACTORY PARK RIGHT PARK AT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RESERVATION PROCESS. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM FOR THEM TO MANAGE IT IN THE AND PUT YEAH SO WE DO HAVE THAT SO THIS APPLIES TO I WROTE IT DOWN I THINK ABOUT OR TEN PROPERTIES. SO OF THOSE SOMEBODY COULD GO TO ONE OF THOSE EVERY MONTH SO YOU COULD ESSENTIALLY HAVE YOU KNOW LITERALLY SEVEN PROPERTIES WITHIN EVERY MONTH. THIS MEANS THEY GET GO ONE TIME A MONTH.

SO IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T SAY I GO TO FOR THE PROPERTIES ONCE A MONTH.

THIS IF I READ I WOULD THINK I CAN GO TO ONE PROPERTY ONCE A MONTH.

RIGHT. YOU CAN GO TO ONE PROPERTY ONCE A MONTH BUT YOU CAN THEN ALSO GO TO ANOTHER PROPERTY ONCE A MONTH. ANOTHER ONE SOMEWHERE IN HERE.

BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO PAY THE FEE. OKAY.

I'M I'M LITERAL I TAKE EXACTLY WHICH RIGHT AND I THINK THAT MEANS I CAN GO ONCE A MONTH.

SO THAT'S A THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. I FOLLOW UP.

SO IF I'M A BIRDING GROUP AND I WANT TO GO TO LIKE AND I WANT TO GO TO AND I WANT TO GO TO WHERE I DO THAT IN THE SAME MONTH. YES.

OKAY. AND IT DOESN'T SAY THAT TO ME, RIGHT? YEAH. SO YES. AND WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

OKAY. CAN I RESPOND TO THAT REAL QUICK? OKAY. SO I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THESE FEES ARE NOT MEANT TO BE PUNITIVE OR, MEANT TO IN ANY WAY DETER PEOPLE FROM USING THE PARK.

THE POINT OF THIS IS THERE IS EXPENSE TO THE COUNTY FOR WEAR AND TEAR CLEAN UP DIFFERENT THINGS WE HAVE TO DO. AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST COVER THOSE ON A VERY MINIMAL BASIS. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE DEROGATORY THESE FEES AT ALL. SO WHEN YOU SEE THOSE FEES, THEY'RE REALLY LOW.

BUT THAT'S THE PURPOSE BEHIND THAT. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUSH ANYONE AWAY FROM THE PARKS. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FAIR WHERE WE'RE SAYING THAT RECURRING USE MAY BE PERMITTED UP TO ONE TIME A MONTH.

AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IF YOU COME ONCE A MONTH? WHAT IS UP TO ME UP TO ONE TIME ONE? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I THINK THAT THAT LANGUAGE WAS WHEN I SENT IT THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WE THAT'S JUST WHAT IT WAS.

SO IT'S OKAY. THE OF IT IS A REOCCURRING PART IS ONCE A MONTH PER PROPERTY SO YOU CAN GO TO 1.1 TIME PER MONTH CRYSTAL IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT PROPERTY MORE THAN ONCE AND YOU ONLY HAVE AN ANNUAL PASS CAN YOU COME BACK AND PAY THE $50 FOR 4 HOURS? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION AND I WOULD HAVE TO GO I GUESS WITHOUT HAVING TO PUT EVERY

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I MEAN IF THEY WANTED TO COME BACK CAN GO TO THESE OTHER PARKS FOR $200 A YEAR.

MM HMM. BUT IF THEY HAVE A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN THIS ONE PARK AND THEY WANT IT TO COME ONCE A WEEK THEY COULD COME ONCE FOR 200 AND THEN PAY $50 FOR FOUR MORE HOURS ANOTHER WEEK ONLY IF IT'S CONDUCIVE FOR THE PROPERTY.

YEAH. AVAILABLE AND ISN'T GOING TO SCHEDULE OTHER THINGS BUT THAT WOULD BE A WAY FOR THEM BACK TO THAT PARTICULAR FAVORITE PARK WITH A GROUP BUT THEY'D HAVE TO PAY. MM HMM. THE ANNUAL PASS ONLY LETS THEM IN ONCE. RIGHT. AND HE JUST GAVE YOU THE LANGUAGE ONE TIME A MONTH FOR PROPERTY. THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.

I THINK BOTH OF YOU GUYS I'M GLAD YOU POINTED THAT OUT AND FOUND THIS.

FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I THINK WE SHOULD PUT THAT IN THERE WHERE IT SAYS IF AVAILABILITY THEY'RE ALLOWED TO AND I'M NOT OPPOSED THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO PAY UP FRONT TO DO IT AT $25 IF THEY ARE ALREADY A YEARLY HOLDER IF THEY WANT TO DO ONE PARK MORE THAN ONCE BECAUSE WE TALKED TO THOSE GROUPS LAST TIME I BELIEVE IN DECEMBER SOME OF THEM HAVE GROUPS OF FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE AND THEY GO OUT ON THESE ECO TOURS AND IF ESPECIALLY IF IT'S STUDENTS I BEG I DON'T KNOW IF I'M RIGHT OR WRONG BUT I'M SURE THEY PROBABLY USE THE SAME THREE OR FOUR PARKS OVER OF IT'S DIFFERENT STUDENTS EVERY TIME IF IT'S I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY STRUCTURE IT BUT JUST TO GIVE THEM THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO DISCUSS THAT IF YOU'RE ALREADY A MEMBER AND YOU WITH AVAILABILITY OF COURSE IF IT IS A DIFFERENT DISCOUNTED RATE FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S ALREADY SAYING THEY WANT USE IT ALL THE TIME THEY HAVE THEIR LICENSING LIABILITY INSURANCE ARE FALLING ON OUR GUIDELINES. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT BEING 25 OR $30 AND THEN FOR YOUR NEXT VISIT AND THEN 50 THAT CAPS OUT AT 50 JUST GIVEN THE OPTION.

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THAT. THE FIRST IS THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN PASSIVE PARKS NATURALISTS WHO HAVE TO USE THESE PROPERTIES TO DO OUR OWN PROGRAMING. SHE IS GOING TO BE DOING PROGRAMING FOR SCHOOLS, FOR THE PUBLIC FOR FREE SO NEEDING TO BALANCE THAT SHE HAS HER OWN SCHEDULE THAT IS GOING TO BE A MORE FREQUENT OCCURRENCE THAN A BUSINESS USE. AND THEN ALSO OUR PROPERTIES ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES IN TOWN. THERE ARE TWO NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGES.

THERE ARE SEVERAL STATE PARKS, THERE ARE DNR PROPERTIES, THERE'S OTHER STATE THERE'S OTHER PRIVATE LANDS THAT THESE FOLKS CAN ASK TO GO ON AUDUBON OWNS PROPERTY ON HILTON HEAD, THE OPEN LAND TRUST AND THE HILTON HEAD TRUST OWNED PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY.

SO THERE ARE OTHER PLACES THAT THEY CAN GO. THERE'S MUNICIPAL PARKS THAT CAN ALSO BE GONE. SO I WOULD I FEEL LIKE THERE IS A MULTITUDE OF PLACES THAT ONE BUSINESS DOES NOT HAVE TO UTILIZE ONE PARK EVERY WEEK OR EVERY DAY FOR THEIR BUSINESS.

IT THERE SHOULD BE DIVERSIFICATION IN MY OPINION. SO WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND WE HAVE DISCUSSION ANY OTHER QUESTION I YOU KNOW WHEN THIS GETS PUBLIC IF THIS GOES FORWARD OH SORRY. NO, NO GO AHEAD. WHEN THIS GOES FORWARD AND IT'S PUBLISHED BEFORE, WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING. WHAT WILL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE LAST TIME THAT MADE US SEND IT BACK AND SAY THIS TIME WHEN THEY SEE WHAT THIS IS AND IT'S TOO MUCH MONEY. WHAT'S THAT? IT'S TOO MUCH MONEY THAT'LL BE THERE. THEIR OBJECTION IS GOING TO BE IT'S TOO MUCH MONEY.

OBJECTION TO WHICH IS WHY THEY MADE AN ADJUSTMENT IN THE FUND IN THE FEES HERE PRETTY DRAMATICALLY I THINK I THINK $200 A YEAR FOR A YEARLY PASS. NO, I SAID AS READJUSTMENTS ARE MADE. SO IS THAT IS THAT GOING TO BE THE ONLY THING THAT GOING TO OBJECT TO? IT'S STILL TOO MUCH MONEY. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.

BUT I WILL SAY THIS WE ALL KNOW WHAT THESE PARKS ARE INTENDED FOR AND WHEN ENTITY I'M NOT CALLING OUT ANYONE BUSINESS IN PER SE BUT WHEN A BUSINESS MODEL IS BASED ON HAVING UNFETTERED FREE ACCESS TO PUBLIC LAND THAT'S KIND OF A FLAWED BUSINESS MODEL.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY I UNDERSTAND SO. SO I THINK SOME ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY IF IT'S NOT FREE IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK FOR US OH THIS IS PRETTY THIS IS CHEAP . THIS IS PRETTY INEXPENSIVE. THIS IS PRETTY GOOD.

AGAIN, IT'S IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A DETERRENT. IT'S JUST WE WANT MAKE UP THE COST. BUT TO STEPHANIE'S VERY VALID POINT WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL THIS SO THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC REMAINS THE PRIMARY USER AND THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT BEHIND

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YES. I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN THEY WHEN THIS IS PUBLISHED AND THEY COME BACK AGAIN, WHAT'S THE OBJECTION GOING TO BE? AND IF IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WE STILL THINK THE FEES ARE TOO. OKAY, WE GET THAT. BUT COUNCILMAN THANK YOU STEVE AND I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE IS REALLY SATISFACTORY TO ME.

WELL, THANKS. IF WE CAN CLEAN THE LANGUAGE UP SO THAT THE FEELING DOESN'T COME IN, PLEASE WITH THE POLICIES SET THEN IT LEAVES THE ROOM FOR INTERPRETATION BECAUSE THE PUBLIC WILL CALL YOU AND IT'S A FEELING, YOU KNOW AND I THINK THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS STAND ON THE POLICY SO THEY CLEAR THE LANGUAGE, THINK THE BETTER.

NOW MY REASON FOR ASKING THE QUESTION BECAUSE MR. SOMLYAY SUDDENLY WAS HE CAME BEFORE US BECAUSE HE'S WITH THE FRIENDS OF WHITE HALL AND DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE HAVE ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE OR THAT CONCERN THAT HE HAS BECAUSE THE FRIENDS OF WHITE HALL HAS A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING IS THEY DON'T HAVE ONE THEY DON'T. WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

FRIENDS OF FREMONT DO THEY HAVE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.

YES, SIR. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THE FRIENDS SHOULD BE SHOULD HAVE SOME MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. SO I'M GOING TO ADDRESS FOR FREMONT IS THIS POLICY WITH THIS POLICY HERE HOW DOES THAT AFFECT FOR FREMONT THE FRIENDS OF FREMONT? NOT AT ALL. NO, NOT AT ALL.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. AS FAR AS THE USE. NOT AT ALL.

SO SO WHEN WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO USE THAT PARK, WHO DO THEY GO TO? FRIENDS OF FORD, FREMONT OR THEY COME TO YOU SO THEY COME TO STAFF AND THAT'S WHY STAFF IS GIVEN THE DIRECTION IN THIS POLICY TO COORDINATE THAT USE BECAUSE KNOW WHO ALL THE PLAYERS ARE WE KNOW WHAT THE DEMAND IS. WE KNOW WHAT THEIR SCHEDULES ARE AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAS HAVE EVERYBODY THERE AT ONE TIME AND MAKE THE PARK UNUSABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. BUT THE THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OR AGREEMENT BOTH WITH FRIENDS GROUP THAT IS A SEPARATE USE AGREEMENT AS SEPARATE MISSION THERE'S A SEPARATE PURPOSE FOR IT AND I WOULD PREFER NOT GETTING DOWN INTO THE DETAILS OF OF WHAT EVERYONE IS DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHAT PARTS OF THOSE AGREEMENTS PEOPLE LIKE OR WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE, WHAT THE POLICY IS WE'RE WORKING ON THAT ACTIVELY BUT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS AT ALL . SO WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS TODAY IS BASED ON YOUR MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND TO GO FORWARD WITH IT AND WE HAD A SECOND AND WE CAN DO WE NEED TO AMEND THAT THAT THE LANGUAGE BE CHANGED OR CAN YOU JUST TAKE CARE OF THAT BEFORE IT GOES TO FULL? SHE HASN'T NOTED HE HASN'T NOTED AND WE WILL HAVE THOSE CORRECTIONS MADE BY FIRST BY THE COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION. YOU'RE RIGHT THIS WAS SENT BACK FOR TWO REASONS. ONE WAS THE PAYMENTS SCALE. THE OTHER ONE WAS CLARIFICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS AIMED JUST TOWARDS BUSINESSES AND NOT PUBLIC.

WE DEFINITELY CLARIFIED THE SECOND ONE WITHOUT A DOUBT THIS MAKES IT FOR THE PUBLIC GROUPS TO BE ABLE TO GO NO PROBLEM. I DO STILL WANT TO TALK ABOUT MR. MCCALLUM'S IDEA A LITTLE BIT AND CHUCK, YOU OPENED THIS UP WAS SAYING THERE'S TWO EXTREMES FOLLOWING THE LEFT AND FOLLOWING THE RIGHT. WE'RE TRYING TO MEET HERE IN THE MIDDLE.

SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO ADD THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU HOLDERS ARE ALLOWED TO ONCE A MONTH PAY THE EXTRA $50 IF AVAILABLE FINANCING ALLOWS TO USE THE PARK SECOND TIME THE SAME PARK I DON'T HAVE THE SAME PARK AT THE FULL 50 MEETING IN THE MIDDLE IF THEY WANT TO USE THAT SAME SPECIFIC PARK AND IF NOT THEN YOU'RE CORRECT WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS CAN BE USED MUNICIPALITIES, STATE PARKS, FEDERAL PARKS WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE AND AT LEAST THAT GIVES THEM THE OPTION TO USE THAT PARK A SECOND TIME FOR THAT SECOND FEE IF SCHEDULING ALLOWS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS ALREADY DEMAND ON THE PARK AND AS LONG IT FITS INTO THAT FRAMEWORK WITH STAFF DISCRETION 100% AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO OPERATE OUR OWN PROGRAMS THE ALLOWANCE OF THE REST I AGREE AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE I CAN SOME HEAVY USAGE DURING SPRING AND FALL MIGRATIONS THINGS LIKE THAT. YES MA'AM.

OKAY. OKAY. WE'LL HAVE THAT.

I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO IT IF. WE CAN HAVE THAT LANGUAGE AND APPRECIATE THE MINUTES TO GO FORWARD WITH THE DISCUSSION TO FULL COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. SO FRIENDS OF WHAT DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT NO TOPIC COULD BE

[01:10:03]

THIS IS OKAY. OKAY. NUMBER TEN IS ANYTHING I SAID WITHOUT OBJECTION. OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS.

THAT WAS GOING VERY WELL. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT SUPPORT PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, AND THE WORK THAT YOU DO. THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. THANK YOU. YEAH, I GO TO THE ANALOGY OF IF THEY LET EVERYBODY WHO WANTED TO GO TO HUNTING GROUP ON THE 4TH OF JULY IN THE PARK WE WOULD HAVE I THINK NOT ONLY. SO AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME CONTROLS.

SO I'M GLAD OUR PARKS ARE THAT POSSIBILITY. IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET LIST OF THE PARKS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WE DO HAVE SOME AGREEMENTS ON THAT THAT DO NOT ALLOW IT. YES, I WAS ACTUALLY PLANNING ON

[10. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF CAMP ST. MARY’S PARK CONCEPTUAL PLAN]

HAVE A GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

NUMBER TEN MOVING THIS NEXT TO ITS REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF CAMP CAMP SAINT MARY'S PARK IN SEXUAL SHE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING ROOM AT TWO MONTHS AGO NOVEMBER NOVEMBER NOVEMBER 9TH.

A RAINY DAY. YEAH, IT WASN'T BAD BUT YOU PEOPLE COME IN.

THIS IS PART OF THE RESULT OF THAT IF YOU WANT TO GO OVER. YES, MA'AM.

OKAY. SO IN JULY OF LAST YEAR COUNTY COUNCIL APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF CAMP SAINT MARY'S THROUGH THE RURAL AND CRITICAL PRESERVATION PROGRAM WHICH THEN AUTHORIZED FUNDING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION FOR A PASSIVE PARK IN AUGUST I WAS ABLE TO HIRE WOODEN PARTNERS TO CREATE THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND WE HOLD A PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE ON NOVEMBER 9TH WHICH HAD OVER 30 PARTICIPANTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROVIDING FEEDBACK IT WAS REALLY GREAT. WE HAD A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INPUT. IT DID LAST THE WHOLE 2 HOURS PEOPLE WERE VERY EXCITED AND DEFINITELY HAD LOTS OF INFORMATION TO PROVIDE THE DRAFT PLAN THAT WE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC WAS THEN REVISED INTO WHAT YOU SEE NOW THE NEXT STEP IF THIS IS APPROVED BY COMMITTEE WOULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CIVIL DRAWINGS AND PERMITTING FOR FUTURE CONSTRUCTION. I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IN THE BACKUP THE ENGINEERS WHO CREATED THE THE PLAN HERE DID GIVE US A ROUGH CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE WERE PLANNING WAS WITHIN OUR BUDGET AND IT IS THIS CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE IS NOT UP FOR APPROVAL. IT'S IT'S NOT APPROVING ANY FUNDING. IT'S FOR INFORMATION IF ANY FUNDING APPROVED WE WOULD FOLLOW OUR NORMAL PURCHASING AND BRING THAT FORWARD TO COUNCIL FOR CONTRACT APPROVALS AND WHATNOT AND BIDS AND SUCH 20% SO JUST CLARIFY THE ONLY THING WE WOULD DO TODAY WOULD BE RECOMMEND THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN DRAWINGS RIGHT JUST TO RECOMMEND THE CAN RECOMMEND FOR THE CONCEPTUAL OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN UNLESS. OF COURSE YOU HAD EDITS OR ANY MODIFICATIONS YOU WANTED TO MAKE. YOU COULD ALSO RECOMMEND THOSE I KNOW TO HAVE A MOTION IN THIS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MOTION TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

OKAY BUT I CAN ANSWER LOOKING BACK YOU GET THE SECOND IT WAS BROUGHT ON THAT THIS WAS IS THIS IT WAS ALSO COUNCILMAN OKAY IT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY.

IS THIS GOING TO BE A RESTRICTED ACCESS OR RESTRICTED ACCESS? I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY RESTRICTED ACCESS BUT IT WILL HAVE AN ENTRY GATE THAT IS CLOSED AT NIGHT JUST LIKE OUR OTHER ONES. YEAH.

SO PARK IN WHICH EMPLOYEE SO IF I'M IN THE PARK AND I'M OUT ON THE RIVER AND AND A KAYAK.

MM. AND I'M CRABBING RIGHT AND I COME BACK AND AGAINST LIKE AND CLUBS THEN ONE WELL IT DEPENDS HOW YOU'VE GOTTEN IN SO IF YOU CAME IN BY VEHICLE AND WENT OUT ON YOUR KAYAK AND CAME BACK AND THE GATE OPENS IT'S AUTOMATIC OPEN BUT THEN IT CLOSES BEHIND YOU SO THAT YOU CAN LEAVE YOU JUST CAN'T REENTER IF YOU'RE TIMED OPENING AND CLOSING.

YES, MA'AM. SO THE THE GATE IS ON AN AUTOMATIC TIMED AUTOMATIC TIMER SO. IT'S LIKE OUR OTHER PARKS SO WHITEHALL IN WHICH END POINT ARE THE SAME THEY OPEN IN THE WINTERTIME IT'S OPEN AT 6 A.M. CLOSES AT SEVEN AND THEN IN THE SUMMERTIME IT'S OPEN AT 7 A.M. AND CLOSES AT EIGHT AND THEN IF YOU'RE INSIDE THE PARK YOU CAN STILL GET OUT. YOU JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO COME BACK AT NORMAL FOR THE PARKS.

YES MA'AM, IT IS NORMAL. WHY ARE WE RESTRICTED? ARE WE RESTRICTING THE ACCESS? AND I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE PUTTING THE CHAIN UP OR WHATEVER.

WELL, THE ALL OF OUR PARKS CLOSED AT NIGHT SO THAT EVEN OUR PARKS ALL OF OUR PARKS CLOSED AT NIGHT THEY'RE ONLY OPEN DAWN TO DUSK. YEAH.

[01:15:02]

NO, THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE NOT OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

AND AS A COUNTY AS A COUNTY THOUGHT ABOUT BUILDING A LITTLE CAPITAL OUT THERE TO RENT SO WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S AND THIS IS OWNED BY RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS.

WE CAN'T PUT ACTIVE ON A AND CRITICAL LANDS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE'S A PICNIC PAVILION I THINK THEY'RE LISTED I CAN'T SEE IT BECAUSE I'M OLD BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. BATHROOMS COVERED PAVILION THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ARE IN VERY POOR SHAPE AND THERE'S THERE ARE SOME THAT SOME AGE TO THEM BUT THEY ARE NOT HISTORIC AND THE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE THE MOST INTEREST IS BEING HAVING SIGNIFICANCE IS DILAPIDATED BEYOND ANY SEMBLANCE OF REPAIR IT HAS COLLAPSED IN ON ITSELF THE MOST PART. AND I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT KAYAKING.

YEAH. AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT I WANT TO I WANT TO GET THIS OUT IN THE PUBLIC. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.

NONE OF OUR PARKS ARE INTENDED TO BE BOAT RAMPS RIGHT SO YOU HAVE A KAYAK YOU CAN THE ASSOCIATED WATERWAYS AND CAN ARRIVE BY KAYAK BUT IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE AN ENORMOUS BOAT LAUNCH FOR ALL THINGS KAYAKS AND CANOES. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.

YEAH, IT'S NOT THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT THESE ARE THESE ARE PASSIVE PARKS AND BY AND LARGE THE KAYAK IN THE DOCK THE KAYAK PORTION OF THE DOCK IS MADE FOR PEOPLE TO COME VISIT THE PARK BY KAYAK POTENTIALLY AS PART OF A KAYAK TRAIL IN THE FUTURE .

NOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO COME AND HAVE KAYAKS ON TOP OF THEIR AND WALK DOWN AND PUT THEM IN THE WATERWAY AND ENJOY THAT? SURE. BUT THAT'S NOT THE INTENDED PRIMARY USE SO THAT KAYAK CLUBS AND ALL THOSE CAN USE THAT AS A PRIMARY LAUNCH THAT'S WHAT THESE ARE AND I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT OF THE PUBLIC SO THAT IF WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT NOW'S THE TIME TO DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THESE PARKS THAT HAVE KAYAK LAUNCHES OR KAYAK ACCESS SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT ALSO CAN I CRAM ALL THAT ON MY LOUNGE THROUGH THAT? SURE. OKAY.

IT IS HEAVILY USED NOW. YES THERE'S THE DOCK THAT'S THERE NOW IT IS AN EXISTING PIER AND DOCK THAT'S OUT THERE. IT IS VERY HEAVILY USED BY FISHERMEN AND CRABBERS AT THE MOMENT. YES. SO THAT'S THE ONLY OPEN PORTION OF THE WHOLE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW IS JUST THAT PIER AND DOCK WHICH IS GOVERNED BY OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT LIKE ALL OF OUR OTHER PIERS IT'S ABOUT TWO YOU KNOW COULD THE SECTION SPEAK MORE ABOUT THE KAYAK LAUNCHING BECAUSE WHITE WHOLE IF I SAW THE PLANES FOR WELL THERE'S THERE'S IS PLANS FOR A KAYAK LAUNCHING YEAH SO YES THERE IS A THERE IS AN EASY KAYAK LAUNCH THAT'S LIKE THE DOCK IS GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE BY KAYAK.

THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE BLUE WAY. SO IF WERE TO PUT IN AT WHITE HALL BOAT LANDING YOU COULD KAYAK YOU KNOW YOU COULD KAYAK FROM FACTORY FISHING PIER TO WHITE HALL PARK TO DOWNTOWN BEAUFORT TO FORT FREDERICK PRESERVE TO THE SANDS TOO.

SO THESE STOPS ALONG THE WAY SO PEOPLE CAN STOP, GET OUT IF THE WEATHER TURNS BAD THEY HAVE A PLACE, A SAFE PLACE THEY COULD STAY UNTIL IT PASSES SO WE COULD PUT THINGS LIKE THAT AT AT ST MARY AS WELL AND IT IS GOING TO HAVE AVAILABILITY FOR THAT BUT AGAIN IT'S GOING TO IT'S PART OF LIKE MR. ATKINSON SAID FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE WATER TO BE ABLE TO STOP IN AND WALK AROUND AND SEE THE PARK, USE THE RESTROOM SWING ON THE SWING YOU KNOW SO THINK OF IT IN TERMS OF LIKE A BICYCLE, RIGHT? WE HAVE BICYCLE RACKS OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP AND THEY'RE ON A BICYCLE THEY CAN PARK THE BICYCLE.

OKAY. I GUESS THE POINT THAT I'LL REITERATE IS WE DO NOT INTEND FOR THIS TO BE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WHO DO COMMERCIAL KAYAK TOURS TO THEIR BIG TRAILER AND LAUNCH 20 KAYAKS OFF OF THESE DOCKS RIGHT, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A PERMITTED USE.

AND WHY YOU WHY IT IS STEPHANIE YOU MENTIONED THE TREE SWING. YES, 18,000.

18,000. YEAH. IT'S SURPRISING HOW EXPENSIVE THEY ARE. OH NO. THEY'RE SO YOU KNOW THE SWINGS THAT ARE IN BEAUFORT. YEAH THAT'S THAT'S HOW MUCH THEY COST HUH? THE SWINGS IN DOWNTOWN BEAUFORT AT WATERFRONT PARK THAT'S HOW THAT'S HOW MUCH COST YOU KNOW HOW MANY YES HOW MANY GOING IN TO THE HAD REQUESTED SWINGS ONE I'M IN THE WRONG BUSINESS HAS

[01:20:06]

YES, ACTUALLY THE AMOUNT MONEY THAT I HAD ALLOCATED TO THE WHITEHALL PERIOD ON THE BID FOR THAT CAME IN MUCH LOWER THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE. SO I DO HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN THE PASSIVE PARKS, BOND FUNDING, THE FOUR OR 502 ACCOUNT THAT I CAN USE FOR CIVIL PLANNING AND DEMOLITION WHILE MAINTAINING THIS SPECIFICALLY FOR CONSTRUCTION.

YEAH I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE THIS ONE BUDGET RIGHT UP AGAINST THE AMOUNT YEAH BUILDINGS WILL HAVE TO BE RESERVED FOR THIS IN THE BUDGET .

THEY'RE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW. YEAH YOU'RE HAVING A FIELD DAY TODAY WITHOUT OBJECTION WHO RECOMMENDED BOARD SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES AND YOU WANT TO JACK THOUGH OKAY WE'VE GOT NOW WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME SO WE GOT SOME THINGS TO COME UP.

THANK YOU MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

[11. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF TAX MAP SERIAL NUMBER TMS R600-021-000-0078-0000 AND ALSO KNOWN AS BARRELL LANDING ORR]

THIS IS RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF TAX MAPS SERIAL NUMBER I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL KNOWN IS BARROW OKAY THIS FLIGHT GO AHEAD GET AFTERNOON CHAIR. MADAM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AMANDA FLAKE NATURAL RESOURCE PLANNER AND STAFF LIAISON TO THE ROOM CRITICAL.

I'VE GOT THREE PROJECTS IN FRONT OF YOU THIS AFTERNOON. THE FIRST ONE IS APPROVAL FOR PURCHASE OF BARREL OR THIS ONE IS 1.2 ACRES IN THE OKATIE WATERSHED AND IT IS BASICALLY A DONUT HOLE CLOSING UP AROUND PROTECTED PROPERTIES PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED THROUGH THE ONE CRITICAL PROGRAM IF YOU ALL LOOK ON THE AIR AS WE PURCHASED IT'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED IF YOU CAN YOU BRING UP THE MAP THE THANK YOU IS NOT COOPERATING GO

[01:25:03]

OUR QUESTION TO GENERAL COUNSEL IS IS THERE ANY STATE STATUTORY LANGUAGE THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO BUY SOMETHING, WE HAVE TO USE AN ORDINANCE TO BUY IT RATHER THAN A RESOLUTION TO THE CIRCUMSTANCE SO PROPERTY CAN DO IT. SO WHAT IS THIS THEN A RESOLUTION TO THE RULING. SO THIS IS A RULE ON CRITICAL PROPERTY AND SO RULING PROPERTIES OR SUBJECT OR OVERARCHING ORDINANCE THAT CREATED THAT GOT IT RIGHT.

WELL AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO IS WITH REGARD TO THE PROBLEM OR RULE OF CRITICAL PURCHASES WE THEM FORWARD BY RESOLUTION. OKAY. SO IT'S AN UNDERLYING ORDINANCE ALLOWING THAT TO TAKE PLACE AND THIS IS A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THIS PURCHASE.

OKAY. LET'S GO BACK ALREADY? OH NO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT.

WITHOUT OBJECTION WE WILL RECOMMEND TO APPROVE PURCHASE OF BARREL LANDING OR ARE YOU

[12. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO UNDERTAKE DUE DILIGENCE AND DISCUSSIONS/NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE PROPOSED FEE SIMPLE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY KNOWN AS RAWSTROM ROAD]

WE LOOK INTO THE DUE DILIGENCE BUT CURRENTLY DOES DUE DILIGENCE WOULD BE FOR THE 12 ACRES RIGHT NEXT TO. ALTAMIRA SO I HAVE A SECOND SECOND OKAY.

ANY DISCUSSION THIS IS JUST FOR DUE DILIGENCE ESTIMATED AT 10,000 IT'S BEEN OKAY WITHOUT OBJECTION WE RECOMMEND THAT DUE DILIGENCE BE DONE FOR A ROSTRUM ROAD.

[13. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO UNDERTAKE DUE DILIGENCE AND DISCUSSIONS/NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE PROPOSED FEE SIMPLE PURCHASE OR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS OF REAL PROPERTY KNOWN AS SEASIDE ROAD]

THIS IS OF SEASIDE ROAD. THIS IS COMING FORWARD AS CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND FEE SIMPLE IT WOULD BE EXCUSE ME 9.36 ACRES AND OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON FARMLAND THAT IS NEXT TO IT YOU CAN BRING UP ONE WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE OR 9.36 ACRES FOR CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON ONE SIDE OF SEASIDE SIDE ROAD THAT IS FARMLAND NEXT TO ANOTHER PIECE OF FARMLAND CALLED HENRY FARMS THAT WE DO WE DO NOT OWN BUT IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THAT AND THEN THE VP PIECE WOULD BE ACROSS THE ROAD OR 1.37 ACRES. THIS ONE IS A ADJACENT TO A CEMETERY. THERE ARE NO GRAVES ON THE PROPERTY BUT IT WOULD BE A NICE BUFFER FOR THIS CEMETERY AS WELL AS A VISTA PROVIDING A VISITOR TO THE WATER ON THAT SIDE SIMILAR TO SOME OTHER ONE ACRE ACQUISITIONS WE'VE DONE ON SAINT HELENA.

THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN HAD DEVELOPMENT THREATS WITH FEE SIMPLE PEACE OPEN LAND TRUST WOULD DO A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT TO MANAGE AND MAINTAIN THAT ONE ACRE PROPERTY THIS AGAIN IS JUST FOR DUE DILIGENCE IN DUE DILIGENCE PHASE WE MAY FIND THAT MAYBE THE FEASIBLE PIECE DOESN'T WORK OUT WHO KNOWS IT MAY JUST COME BACK AS JUST THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT PIECE BUT RIGHT NOW THE OWNER IS INTERESTED IN PURSUING BOTH THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON THE ONE SIDE AND THE PEACE ON THE OTHER SIDE TO HAVE A MOTION ASSURED.

[01:30:05]

DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. WHERE IS HE? SIDE ROAD AND THE SINKHOLE.

OH YES. AND PARALLELS LANDS IN ROAD ON THE NORTH OF IT FOR THE PARALLELS BUT TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IT'S THE RACETRACK ROAD THAT CONVEYS GREAT STRESS YOU'RE MORE THAT THE BREAK ALL RIGHT WITHOUT OBJECTION WE WILL GO FORWARD OH SO WE'RE JUST PASSING FOR DO DO DO DO YES MA'AM JUST TO HEAR BACK FROM A DEPOSITION.

OKAY OKAY. WITHOUT OBJECTION THIS WILL GO FORWARD AS A RECOMMENDATION FOR DUE DILIGENCE. ANY OTHER BUSINESS THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

SIX MEETING

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