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AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND LAND USE COMMITTEE 11TH 330 PLEASE RISE TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I QUITE LIKE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH IS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY THANK YOU ALL BUT NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING
[3. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT]
WAS PROBABLY POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
OF INFORMATION ACT. CAN CONFIRM THAT IT WAS BROUGHT BACK.I'D LIKE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA SO MOVED ON THE SECOND MOTION MADE BY GERMAN INSTRUCTED COUNCILMAN TAVEN IN FAVOR ALL RIGHT AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL GET RIGHT DOWN TO THE BUSINESS. THIS IS A VERY HAPPY OCCASION.
BUT BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT SINCE IT IS PUBLIC COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND ALL OF UBER RESIDENTS THAT IF THEY'RE A REGISTERED TO PLEASE VOTE TOMORROW IT'S A VERY
[6. RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO FUND DUE DILIGENCE AND NEGOTIATE TERMS OF ACQUISITIONS FOR THE FOLLOWING PROPOSED GREEN SPACE APPLICATIONS: A. CONSERVATION EASEMENT APPLICATION: HALF MOON ISLAND ROAD, LOBECO; POLITICAL JURISDICTION - UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY; GEOGRAPHIC REGION – NORTHERN B. CONSERVATION EASEMENT APPLICATION: GREGORIE NECK ROAD, YEMASSEE; POLITICAL JURISDICTION - UNINCORPORATED JASPER COUNTY; GEOGRAPHIC REGION – OUTSIDE OF COUNTY County Council Agenda – Beaufort County, SC C. FEE SIMPLE APPLICATION: ULMER ROAD, BLUFFTON; POLITICAL JURISDICTION - UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY; GEOGRAPHIC REGION – SOUTHERN D. FEE SIMPLE APPLICATION: MITCHELVILLE ROAD, HILTON HEAD ISLAND; POLITICAL JURISDICTION - TOWN OF HILTON HEAD; GEOGRAPHIC REGION - SOUTHERN]
IMPORTANT ELECTION. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER SIX RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO FUND DUE DILIGENCE AND NEGOTIATE TERMS OF ACQUISITIONS FOR THE FOLLOWING PROPOSED GREEN SPACE APPLICATIONS IN. THE CHAIRMAN MIKE MCSHANE OF THE GREEN SPACE GROUP WILL US THROUGH THIS AND REMIND US OF WHAT WE'RE TO DO TODAY ONLY THIS MOMENT, MADAM CHAIRMAN.GOOD AFTERNOON. COUNCIL MEMBERS COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I'M MIKE MCSHANE, RESIDENT OF CHARLESTON. BUT I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS YOUR APPOINTEE TO GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE AND TODAY WE BRING FORWARD FOUR INDEPENDENT PROJECTS SIMPLY SEEKING THAT FIRST PHASE OF OF OF ASKING FOR AUTHORIZATION TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE AND NEGOTIATIONS TO COME BACK FORWARD TO THIS COMMITTEE AND THEREFORE BEFORE THIS DOES NOT OBLIGATE EITHER THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE OR COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD BEYOND SIMPLY DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND COMING BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION OR THE THERE WERE FIVE APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED TO GREEN SPACE. ONE OF THE APPLICATIONS WAS DEEMED NOT COMPLETE. IT WAS RETURNED BACK THE APPLICANT THERE IS AN APPLICATION DEADLINE AGAIN THIS COMES IN JANUARY SO THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR APPLICATIONS THAT ARE THAT WE DID REVIEW LAST WEEK AND WE COME WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON ALL FOUR. MADAM CHAIRMAN, IS IT YOUR PLEASURE TO TAKE ONE AT A TIME PLEASE? THE FIRST ONE BEING A TWO FOR THE AN APPLICATION TO A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON A PROPERTY IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY KNOWN AS HALF AN ISLAND IN THE LITTLE AND THIS IS ONE THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED IT THE PINK AROUND IT DISPLAYS THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY ALREADY UNDER SOME OF PROTECTION BE IT EASEMENT OR SOME OTHER FORM. THIS IS A FULL COMMITMENT FROM OUR PARTNERS.
THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TO EQUAL THE MATCH THAT THE GREENSPACE BEING PUT THE SITE IS HIGHLY LEVERAGED THROUGH THAT SO WE SEEK APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE DUE DILIGENCE AND NEGOTIATE WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEREFORE THE LANDOWNER ON WHAT THOSE VALUES WOULD ACTUALLY DO. COULD YOU REMIND COUNCIL WHAT DUE DILIGENCE USUALLY ENCOMPASSES? YES IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE IT MAY FILTER A LITTLE BIT ON THE ACTUAL APPLICATION BUT TYPICALLY IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE EVERYTHING FROM AN APPRAISAL TO BE REVIEWED WELL AS DUE DILIGENCE AND PROPERTY DESCRIPTION LEGAL DESCRIPTION MAKING SURE OWNERSHIP IS CORRECT ENVIRONMENTAL PHASE ONE AND IF NEEDED ANY FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THAT PHASE ONE ETC.. THANK YOU.
I HAVE DOES IT INCLUDE SERVING AS WELL FOR MOST PART UNLESS THERE'S A VERSUS NOT BEING FORMALLY PROVIDED? YES SIR IT WILL THAT AND IF I MAY JUST ADD THAT THEN PLAYS A LITTLE BIT OF ROLE ON THE TIME WHEN YOUR GREENSPACE COMMITTEE WILL THEN REVIEW THAT INFORMATION BASED ON WHEN WE RECEIVE THAT WE'RE AT A TIME OF YEAR I THINK THOSE AT EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN ON SOME APPRAISALS OR TAKING SOMETIMES SIX WEEKS OR MORE DUE TO RESUME. YOU ASKED FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL YES.
NOW WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS SO I HAVE A SECOND A SECOND AND I QUESTION.
I THINK LOGAN HAS AN UP FIRST IF I HAD MY QUESTION WAS TALKED ABOUT THAT AS BEING SPLIT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ARE THEY GOING TO BE SPLIT IN DUE DILIGENCE COST AS WELL OR JUST THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY IF WE DECIDE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE EASEMENT
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SHOULD SAY I'LL CONFIRM IT WAS MR. CUNNINGHAM BUT I BELIEVE DEPARTMENT DEFENSE ACTUALLY HELPS DO THAT. THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE SOME OF THE WORK AND IF WE CAN ACCEPT SOME OF THAT WORK IS PARALLEL THE WORK WE WOULD REQUEST AND THAT ACTUALLY WOULD SEEM THE COUNTY'S SOME OF THE. OKAY MR. O'BRIEN I WAS GOING TO WELL I COULD WAIT TILL AFTER BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR THE AUDIENCE WHO BE LISTENING. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CONSERVATION EASEMENT VERSUS A FEE? SIMPLE BECAUSE THESE ARE DIFFERENT SO PEOPLE UP TO THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT BE HELD BY TYPICALLY A THIRD OR NON QUALIFIED NON PROFIT THIRD PARTY.THE OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND REMAINS PRIVATELY THEREFORE THE MANAGEMENT COSTS ETC. ARE RETAINED BY THE OWNERSHIP AND THE EASEMENT WILL FORCE THOSE NEGOTIATIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE ON WHAT RESTRICTIONS HAVE BEEN PLACED UNDER THAT EASEMENT.
THAT EASEMENT IS A NEGOTIATION NOT A REGULATION SO THEREFORE WILL VARY FROM PROPERTY TO PROPERTY BUT IS TYPICALLY GOING TO HAVE A RESTRICTION ON NUMBERS THAT COULD TAKE PLACE OR THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURES THAT CAN BE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY FEASIBLE HAS ACTUALLY TAKEN OVER OWNERSHIP IN THE CASE THE COUNTY POTENTIALLY COULD TAKE OWNERSHIP OF A PROJECT THAT THEN WOULD TAKE THAT PROPERTY OFF THE TAX RULES I.E. THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT PROPERTY REMAINS ON THE TAX. THAT'S ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN THE OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE NOW OBJECTION ANY OBJECTION OR ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER FORM FIRST? NO, WE'RE GOING TO DO THEM INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT. WE ARE. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO THIS ONE IS FOR HALF MOON. THAT WAS THE MOTION THAT COUNCILMAN DAWSON MADE AND WAS SECOND BY COUNCILMAN YORK GLOVER MUST SUBMIT THIS COMMENT. I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS PROPERTY FORWARD.
IT'S BEEN ON THE RADAR FOR FIVE OR SIX YEARS SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS PROPERTY COME FORWARD BUT IT HAS JUST BEEN THE MILITARY HAS BEEN REALLY ASKING THIS PROPERTY AND IS THERE NO PUN INTENDED IT HAS BEEN ON THEIR RADAR. YEAH, YOU HAVE.
YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ? RIGHT. WITHOUT OBJECTION THIS ONE WILL GO FORWARD FOR DUE DILIGENCE AND. OF COURSE WE WOULD WE WILL BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION ON EACH ONE OF THESE BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE AND THEREFORE THE COUNCIL BEFORE WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANYTHING. THE SECOND ONE IS ALSO CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND MADAM CHAIRMAN, LITTLE EXCITEMENT FOR ME TONIGHT IS THIS YOUR COMMITTEE IS GETTING TO SEE SOME THINGS THAT REALLY ARE IN YOUR PROGRAM.
THE FACT THAT WE CAN COME TO ASK DUE DILIGENCE ON A PROPERTY OUTSIDE YOUR COUNTY THIS BE THE FIRST TIME IN THE STATE THAT A COUNTY'S WILLING TO EVEN CONSIDER MONEY IN A PROPERTY OUTSIDE THE COUNTY AND SO FORTH IN MY VIEW. AND YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP AND IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE THAT SHOWS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF WHAT IS IT'S THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN PARTICULAR IF YOU LOOK AT THE WATERFRONT ON THAT YOU'RE REALLY PROTECTING A WATER RESOURCE. IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNTY AND IT'S HIGHLY LEVERAGED. IT'S AN EASEMENT THE OWNERSHIP IS IN IN TRANSITION HERE.
THIS GENTLEMAN IS SELLING US BUT HE IS ALLOWED CONSERVATION TO STEP IN AND TAKE A SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED PRICE THAN WHAT HE'S BEEN OFFERED TO SELL OTHERWISE TO.
I GIVE COMPLIMENTS TO OWNER FOR CONSIDERING THAT AND THE COUNTY HAS BEEN ASKED AND IN THIS CASE UNDER THE ORDINANCE WE BE LOOKING FOR A MINIMUM OF A 300% MATCH FROM OUTSIDE THE WE'VE EXCEEDED THAT ON THIS PROPERTY VALUES ON THIS PROPERTY SO THE VALUES THAT WE WOULD MOST LIKELY BE BRINGING SUBSTANTIALLY AIDED BY OUR DUE DILIGENCE WILL BE WILL SURPASS THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO DO OKAY I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION SECOND AND THEN WE CAN HAVE QUESTION MOVEMENT HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU SIMEON AND COUNCILMAN GLOVER SECOND. ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
MM YES. SO I ASSUME THAT TALKS HAVE ALREADY BEEN HAD JASPER COUNTY, IS THAT CORRECT? IN PART OF OUR PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO SOLICIT COMPARE ANY OF THOSE POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS HAVE BE AWARE THAT I'M HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT ASKING FOR THAT. YES. WERE THEY SUPPORTIVE SO FAR? THERE'S THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CAN ARTICULATE BUT.
I THINK I THINK THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY WILL WILL BE AN EXAMPLE FOR THE COUNTY OR THEIR COUNTY OR ALSO GOOD CONSIDERATION DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS EVERYONE PRETTY FAMILIAR WHERE THIS IS I 95 FROM THE MAPS OKAY I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHO'S THE THE EASEMENT THE NATURE CONSERVANCY. OKAY.
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AS IN THE NATIONAL NATURE CONSERVANCY JUST REMEMBER THEY HAVE A SO EACH STATE HAS A CHAPTER SO THEIR CHAPTER IN THERE WILL QUALIFY AS WE DO IN VIRGINIA BY ANY CHANCE THAT'S THIS OR NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS. RIGHT. SO OKAY BUT THIS IS OUT OF WHAT GEORGIA? NO, IT'S ACTUALLY THEY'RE CHAPTERS BASED I THINK THEIR OFFICE NOW IS IN MOUNT PLEASANT BUT IT A SOUTH CAROLINA CHAPTER AND THINGS AND BUT YOU'RE RIGHT THEY'RE ALL PART OF THE NATIONAL YEAH YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT IT'S HUGE IMPORTANCE WORTH THE STATE IS LOOKING AT AND ALSO ENTERTAINING PUTTING VALUE INTO THIS AS WELL THESE SELLERS ARE HIGHLY LEVERAGED THIS IS THIS ACTUALLY A POSTER CHILD OF A PROJECT TO DO THIS LIKE THIS ONE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITHOUT OBJECTION GO FORWARD FOR DUE DILIGENCE ON HOW IS IT GREGORY OR GREGORY GREGORY OKAY THAT CONTRACT AND FOR ME JUST FOR FULL DISCLOSURE MY MIDDLE NAME IS THAT NAME SPELLED VERY WAS I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT AND IT DOES COME FROM AN OLD FAMILY CONNECTION THERE THE NEXT TWO OR THREE SIMPLE ACQUISITIONS TAKE THE FIRST ONE WHICH IS ON THE ROAD AND THIS COUNCIL'S QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROJECT YOU ASK THAT THE GREENSPACE ALLOW THAT THE OWNER PUT IN AN APPLICATION WHICH IS DONE THEY'VE MET THE QUALIFICATIONS AND WE'RE ASKING FOR AUTHORITY TO MOVE FORWARD ON DUE DILIGENCE AS BEFORE ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT I RETAIN A MOTION SO MOVE BY I'M CHAIR ALL RIGHT COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM IS SECOND TO GO FORWARD SECOND ALL RIGHT ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION JUST ONE QUESTION WILL WE BE ABLE TO USE THE SAME TO SAVE DOLLARS ASSESSMENTS THAT WE USE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO IT'S A VERY FAIR QUESTION. WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN DO THIS IS TO MAYBE HAVE APPRAISAL JUST REVIEWED SO THAT YOU MINIMIZE THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES AND THAT'S OFTENTIMES SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IS USE AN UPDATE IN AN EXISTING APPRAISAL MANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT ACTUALLY GOING BACK TO THAT THE APPRAISAL SOMEBODY HAD TOSSED AT ONE OF THE LAST MEETINGS ABOUT THIS THAT WE NEED TO DO A CONSERVATION APPRAISAL OR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF APPRAISAL THAN THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT. IS THERE A LEGITIMATE DIFFERENCE IN THAT OR THERE ARE LEGITIMATE DIFFERENCES IN THAT BUT WHAT YOU'RE AUTHORIZING TONIGHT IS THE ABILITY FOR THE GREENSPACE TO EVEN CONTROL IT AND DISCUSS HOW THE PROCESS WILL MOVE FORWARD. ALL RIGHT. WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE'LL GO WITH DUE DILIGENCE FOR THE ULMER ROAD TRACK AND THE FOURTH AND LAST ONE MEETING WE WILL CHAIR THE MITCHELL. WE WILL TURN ON HILTON HEAD THINK THIS IS A ON IN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD THIS IS AN APPLICATION MADE BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ON A 26 ACRE TRACT THAT WE'RE SEEKING AUTHORIZATION TO TO ENGAGE ON THIS DUE DILIGENCE OR SOME QUESTIONS THAT STILL TO BE RESOLVED AND THEN WE'LL COME UP DURING THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD INCLUDING OF THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION, ETC. THIS IS A HISTORICALLY I KNOW AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN FAMILY IT'S ONE OF THE LAST TRACTS THAT HAS BEEN CONTINUOUSLY BY THAT FAMILY SINCE THE CIVIL WAR AND IT'S GOT ABOUT 450 PLUS OR MINUS FEE RIGHT THERE YOU CAN SEE A BEACHFRONT I HAD A CHANCE TO GO AND JUST PHYSICALLY SEE IT BECAUSE I DON'T GET THE HILTON HERE AS OFTEN AS I USED TO TO BECOME FAMILIAR THE TOWN ,A PARK YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE ON THAT OFFICIAL OR A GREAT RESOURCE IS RIGHT THERE IS ONE OF THE LESS FRANKLY PRISTINE MARITIME THAT GOES RIGHT UP TO THE WAR. WELL YES TO SPEAK OF FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OH OKAY I'LL BE VERY BRIEF THEN SO ARE REQUEST IS SIMPLY TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND TO DO SOME DUE DILIGENCE BASED ON THAT WE WOULD COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION EITHER TO MOVE FORWARD OR SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN I MAKE THAT MOTION? YES PLEASE. SECOND A SECOND HIS MOTION.THANK YOU. HAVE A SECOND. LISTEN, I'VE WANT THIS IT IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S STUNNING. UNREAL.
ANY ANY WE DO WANT TO LET A REPRESENTATIVE MAKE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT WAS DO THAT AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION UNLESS THERE'S SOME OTHER QUESTIONS OR YOU HAVE SOME YEAH THANK YOU.
I KNOW YOU SAID YOU HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON THIS ONE UNLIKE THE OTHER THREE.
I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. HEAR THAT WAS CAN I KNOW YOU
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SAID YOU HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD ON THIS COMPARED TO THE OTHER THREE IS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS IS THERE INTEREST IN THIS BEING DEVELOPED WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S SURROUNDING IT CURRENTLY WITH MITCHELL VELARDE AND WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD OWNING LAND RIGHT NEXT DOOR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WE CAN GET ENOUGH MATCHING FUNDS AND FOR THIS TYPE OF RETURN OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT HILTON HEAD SHOULD BE LOOKING AT TO DO? I GUESS THAT'S ONE OF MY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S A VERY TIGHT, NARROW PIECE OF LAND. YES, I KNOW THERE CAN BE QUITE A BIT BUILT ON THAT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S APARTMENTS OR CONDOS RIGHT NEXT TO IT.I MEAN I'VE BEEN TO MITCHELL PARK NOT NECESSARILY DOWN TO THE OTHER PARK SO I GUESS THOSE WOULD JUST BE SOME QUESTIONS. IT LOOKS MORE LIKE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.
IT COULD BE PROPERTY THAT THEY CAN USE A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN US IN A CONFERENCE CONSERVATION. SO A BROADER ANSWER TO THAT THAT ALLOWING US TO MOVE FOR DUE DILIGENCE ALLOWS US TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT WHICH IS THE TOWN HALL AND TO THEN SEEK OTHER OPPORTUNITIES OR MAYBE TO TO RETAIN MATCHING FUNDS. I SUGGESTED THIS FROM MY EXPERIENCE STRONGLY WOULD BE COMPELLING FOR OTHER FUNDS TO BE ALSO APPLIED TO SO THE APPLICANT WAS THE TOWN OF HILTON THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ITSELF SO THEY OWN THIS CURRENTLY SO THEN I MEAN I KNOW IN YOUR PROCESS YOU SOMEONE TO MAKE AN APPLICATION EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T THE OWNER OF THE OF THE PROPERTY TO GIVE A THOUGHT TO HOW THEN THEY BE A PARTICIPANT IN NEGOTIATION THIS GOES BACK TO THE FEE SIMPLE VERSUS CONSERVATION EASEMENT EVEN ONLY CONSERVATION EASEMENTS OWNERS IDENTIFY THAT THEY'RE WELL AWARE OF OF THAT THE APPLICATION IS BEING MADE ON THEIR SPECIFIC PROPERTY. OKAY THERE ARE SOME THERE ARE SOME DEALERSHIPS WE NEED TO GET ANSWERED ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THERE'S NO I LIKE THE PERSON THAT CAME COMBATANT STATUS NAME. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES SIR YOU CAN COME ON FORWARD AND STATE NAME AND WE'LL LIKE TO HEAR BEFORE WE VOTE TO DO DUE DILIGENCE.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS ATTORNEY CHARLES HOUSTON. I REPRESENTED EARS WHO WHO OWNS THIS PROPERTY ON HILTON HEAD? THE FIRST THING I WANT TO ESTABLISH IS THAT THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN TOOK UP ON ITS OWN INITIATIVE. THEY WERE PROMPTED TO DO THIS BY A REAL ESTATE BROKER.
OKAY. THE SECOND THING AS I UNDERSTAND THE ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO EVEN CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF A PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY HAS TO HAVE A SIMPLE TITLE. THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE A SIMPLE TITLE.
IF OPEN THE STATE PERTAINING TO THIS PROPERTY SO THEREFORE THERE IS NO BASIS.
SIMPLE TITLE THAT THE SELLER OR THE BUYER COULD OBTAIN IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO ENTERTAIN BUYING THE PROPERTY. THE THIRD THING AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE PROPERTY. THE MINORITY AREAS WANT TO PURCHASE IT THEMSELVES.
THIS MATTER IS TIED UP NOW BEFORE THE MASTER EQUITY AND BEFORE THE SOUTH CAROLINA COURT OF APPEALS TO HAVE CERTAIN ISSUES RESOLVED AS TO UNDER THE PINCKNEY ACT OR THE MINORITY OWNERS TO PURCHASE INTERESTS OF THE MAJORITY OWNERS. AND ALL OF THIS IS BASICALLY A SUBTERFUGE AND AN EFFORT TO THWART OUR EFFORT TO BUY OUT THE OTHER YEARS.
SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOU UP TO YOUR ATTENTION. I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING THE TIME. THANK YOU. WE WILL ENTER IN THE RECORD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND CHAIRMAN MCSHANE, YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. AS I THINK THE COMMITTEE IS AWARE THAT THIS IS CLASSICALLY IN THE HEIRS PROPERTY ISSUE, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO SEE THIS ON A ROUTINE BASIS BECAUSE FRANKLY THEY'RE SOME OF THE MOST THREATENED PROPERTIES OUT THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOUR OBJECTIVES ARE ON GREENSPACE. AND PART OF THE DUE DILIGENCE WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD IN FACT COME WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE OR USE IT FRANKLY EVEN IF THAT WERE THE CASE AND SO IN GENERAL TERMS SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS PROPERTY. I'M AWARE THAT THERE'S THERE'S SOME LESS PENANCE WAS FILED AND THERE'S LITIGATION GOING ON THAT WILL HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY BE RESOLVED.
BEFORE WE COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION OR IT COMES BACK.
OKAY. ANY OTHER WOULD OUT OBJECTION. WE GO FORWARD WITH DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS AND KNOWING THAT IT MIGHT BE A WHILE BEFORE WE HEAR ANYTHING BACK ON THIS IN I CERTAINLY WOULD OFFER TO COUNSEL INTO THIS COMMITTEE. THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE JUST
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REGULAR UPDATES AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THAT. I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.ALL RIGHT. GREAT. BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S HIGH AND I UNDERSTAND THE HIGH INTEREST IN THIS AND WE WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC WE'RE IN JANUARY WHICH IS ANOTHER DEADLINE, MORE APPLICATIONS. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AND ALL THE STAFF'S HARD WORK ON THIS AND THE COMMITTEE. AND IF I COULD JUST TO TO YOU AND TO YOUR COLLEAGUES STAFF PARTICULARLY MIKE DAVIS AND CHUCK ATKINSON.
CHUCK AND ROB MARCHANT, ETC. HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE BREAKING NEW GROUND.
YES, WE ARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OKAY. I NEED A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION SO YOU NEED TO PROBABLY PASS THIS MORE THAN WE DO. YEAH, I DIDN'T SAY WHAT I'M
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SAYING. YEAH NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. I GET IT.ALL RIGHT. I NEED A MOTION TO GO ON EXECUTIVE SESSION MOVE SECOND AND SAY THE REASON FOR IT PLEASE. OH SURE.
I'M GLAD YOU HAD A DISCUSSION. NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT TWO PROPOSED CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AND PROPOSED OR. ALL RIGHT, WE BACK. OKAY.
[8. MATTERS ARISING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION]
WE ARE BACK IN SESSION DO HAVE MATTERS ARISING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.WE HAVE A MOTION CONCERNING THE PROPOSED CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AND PROPOSED OR PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTIES AT 76 MAE RIVER. RECOMMENDATION DO I HEAR A MOTION? YES MA'AM. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE FORWARD COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO PURSUE NEGOTIATIONS TO PURCHASE 76 MAY RIVER ROAD ON THE TERMS WERE DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS AFTERNOON. I HAVE A SECOND A SECOND AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GLOVER.
I THINK WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THIS. ALL RIGHT COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM. YES COUNCILMAN GLOVER. YES, I'LL HOLD ON 1/2.
I WAS GETTING YOU CAN CALL THE REST OF THEM. YES, MA'AM.
GLOVER COUNCILMEMBER REED'S YES . COUNCILMEMBER BROWN NO.
COUNCILMEMBER TABACHNICK NO. COUNCILMEMBER BARTHOLOMEW YES. COUNCILMEMBER DODSON.
YES. VICE CHAIR MAGELLAN CHAIRMAN PASSIM YES.
COMMITTEE CHAIR HOWARD YES. THE MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. WE ARE ADJOURNED. NEXT MEETING.
WHAT TIME?
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