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I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE, THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
OVERALL IDENTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
UH, THE AGENDA HAS BEEN MADE AVAILABLE TO YOU, UH, UH, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.
SO I WOULD LIKE, UH, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
I HAVE, UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THE OPPOSED? UH, WE'VE HAD THE MINUTES.
UH, I'D ALSO, UH, LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 30TH, 2023.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 23RD, 2023.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, AND, AND EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE CURRENT, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, CAROL MAILED OUT.
AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GO THROUGH IT.
I'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY AT LEAST ONE PERSON AND, UH, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY ON SOME SUGGESTED VERY, VERY MINOR CHANGES.
BUT I, I WANT TO, I WANT TO GO THROUGH THOSE.
UM, AND SO WHAT I WANT TO DO AGAIN, IS KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS FROM PAGE ONE ON THROUGH.
AND ANYBODY THAT HAS, UH, CHANGES THAT THEY THINK OUGHT TO BE MADE, NOW'S THE TIME TO, UH, TO BRING THEM FORWARD.
WE MADE A FEW MINOR CORRECTIONS AND CHANGES LAST TIME, AND I THINK WE'RE OKAY.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PAGE TWO, AND I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THIS.
REP, UH, SIX MEMBERS, ONE REPRESENTING TWO MEN DISABILITIES NORTH OF BROAD.
ONE REPRESENTING TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.
ONE REPRESENTING TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
IT SAYS ONE REPRESENTING NORTH COUNTY.
NORTH COUNTY, UNINCORPORATED AREAS.
AND THEN ONE REPRESENTING SOUTH UNINCORPORATED.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ONE TO A TWO AND THE TWO TO A ONE THERE? YEAH, I THINK WE PROBABLY DO
AND NO, IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.
UM, DEAN, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, SO, UM, CAROL'S GOT IT UP ON THE SCREEN AND SHE WAS GONNA MAKE THESE EDITS LIVE.
AND THEN WE'LL HIT PRINT AT THE END.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT PAGE? GOOD CATCH, CAROL.
UM, PAGE THREE, UH, CONCEPTS BEHIND THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
BIG PROJECTS, PROJECT PROGRAMS IN MY NORMAL CASE.
UH, ON PAGE FOUR, A RECOMMENDATION, UH, FROM MORRIS, INSTEAD OF AMOUNT AND LENGTH OF TAX, HE SUGGESTS AMOUNT AND DURATION OF TAX.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A REASONABLE YES.
VERY TOP FIRST THING UNDER RECOMMENDATION A.
IT MIGHT DOES THAT, THAT COPY MIGHT BE EASIER TO CALL THE TOP.
I WANNA COMPLIMENT YOU ON THAT LA THAT SENTENCE.
IN ADDITION, THIS MONEY CAN BE MULTIPLIED OVER.
ALSO WANNA COMPLIMENT YOU, WE WERE WORKING A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD ACCOMPANY THIS MEMO, UM, TO COUNTY COUNSEL.
AND I WAS WORKING IT WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND HE'S LIKE, LET'S JUST GRAB IT.
IT'S JUST THIS FINE, BETTER THAN WE CAN WRITE UP.
UH, TOM, DID YOU GET IT? DID YOU SEE IT? YES.
UM, NOW WHEN WE GET TO THE ACTUAL NUMBERS, UH, CAROL SUGGESTS THAT WE MAY HAVE GOT TOO MUCH MONEY
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HERE.I MEAN, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DO THE MATH.
WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF MATH.
SO WE, WE, WE KNOW ROUGHLY WHAT WE'VE GOT.
I MEAN, WE'VE MADE IT, WE'VE MADE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE GET OF THE MONEY WE'RE GOING TO RAISE.
YOU GOT SIX 50 AND 9 75 IN THE TWO CATEGORIES.
6 59, 75, 6 50, AND NINE 50 IS ONE FIVE.
SO, UM, I JUST WANNA, ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S, THAT'S PAGE FOUR, PAGE FIVE.
WE START TO GET SOME THINGS HERE.
UM, MORRIS HAS MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS, WHICH SEEM TO ME TO BE VERY SENSIBLE AND FINE ON, UH, ON SUBPARAGRAPH SIX.
MILTON HAD ISLAND MUNICIPAL PROJECTS.
HE SUGGESTS THAT INSTEAD OF SAYING AS DETERMINED BY THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, WE SAY TO INCLUDE SEA PINE CIRCLE AND ADJACENT CORRIDORS FOR THE SAFETY OF MOTORISTS.
DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE? CAROL? WILL YOU BOLD THAT VI IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT FOLDED.
I'LL FOR THE SAFETY OF MOTORISTS.
SAFETY MOTORIST AND GET RID OF AS DETERMINED BY THE TOWN OF THAT ISLAND.
I MEAN THAT, I THINK WE MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION, UM, ON, ON NUMBER NINE, FUTURE PROJECTS.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION BACK ON FIVE.
UM, JUST THINKING ABOUT THE THREE THAT WE HAVE, THE FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN MM-HMM.
SO WHAT'S THIS ONE? THIS ONE KIND OF CAME FROM LAST YEAR.
THAT WAS LAST YEAR'S, THAT WAS LAST YEAR'S THING BECAUSE, SO THE, THE DIFFERENCE THOUGH IS THAT WE CHANGED SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO THE OTHER ONES ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY, WHAT TO DO WITH THE FUNDS.
AND SO MAYBE WE ONLY DO THE SAME THING IN BLUFFTON.
AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE THE, THE ONE BIG PROJECT THAT'S KNOWN MAY NOT TAKE UP THAT WHOLE BUCKET.
AND, AND SO THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN ON BLUFFTON IS THAT IT'S GOTTA BE IN THE LATS, RIGHT? WHERE THE OTHER ONES TALK ABOUT JUST SAFETY, UM, AND INTERCESSION IMPROVEMENTS PATHWAYS.
UM, SO BLUFFTON HAS TO BE IN THE LAST, YOU'RE SAYING? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WAS WRITTEN LAST YEAR AND WE JUST COPIED AND PASTED AND WE REALLY HAVEN'T GONE BACK TO THAT LANGUAGE THIS YEAR.
UM, SO IT NEEDS TO SAY LISTED AS PRIORITIES IN THE APPROVED LATS TRANSPORTATION PLAN IN ADDITION, OR AS WELL AS, WELL WE JUST TAKE LISTED, WE JUST TAKE THE LATS OUT AND SAY IMPLEMENTATION OF BLUFFTON PROJECTS, UH, LISTED AS PRIORITIES, UH, IN BLUFFTON TOWN COUNCIL PLANNINGS OR SOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE THEN THAT WOULD HAVE ALL THEIR PROJECTS UP THERE.
AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF, HERE'S A POT FOR BLUFFTON.
SO IN ANY YOU WANT THIS TO READ? IS THAT WHAT I'VE GOT? PLANNING SESSIONS.
WHY DON'T WE SAY LISTED AS PRIORITIES BY, BY THE BLUFFTON TOWN COUNCIL.
AND GET RID OF WOULD DESIGNATE PROJECTS TO BE UNDERTAKEN BY BUFORT COUNTY.
THAT'S KIND OF ASSUMED ENDING WITH THE BLUFFTON TOWN COUNCIL.
AND THEN, UM, WE DID HILTON HEAD, UH, WE DID FOR THE SAFETY OF MOTORISTS ON ON NUMBER SIX.
SHOULD WE INCLUDE MOTORISTS AND PEDESTRIANS? I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.
AND SOMEBODY IN THE BICYCLE COMMUNITY, WELL, MIKE, DIDN'T YOU MENTION PIPES?
HOW ABOUT ALL USERS? MOTORIST, BIKE BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.
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YES.YEAH, FRANK, FRANK WILL FIND IT AND GET BEYOND.
SO TOM, WHAT DID YOU DO? FIX, NOW I GET IT.
UM, IN FUTURE PROJECTS, UH, HOLD ON.
THE, I GOTTA FIX THE FORMATTING.
I DON'T WANNA DO IT WHILE YOU GUYS ARE TALKING, BUT I'LL GET IT DONE.
IN NUMBER NINE, UH, THE COUNTY AND ITS NEIGHBORS WILL CONTINUE TO GROW INTO THE FUTURE.
AND WHAT WE WANNA SAY AND WORK MUST BE CONTINUED TO PLAN FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED GOING FORWARD.
SO INSTEAD OF GETTING, THERE IS NO WAY TO PREDICT WHAT KINDS, UM, OF, OF TRANSPORTATION.
UH, BUT SO WE SAY, UH, AND WORK MUST BE CONTINUED TO PLAN FOR THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE REQUIRED GOING FORWARD.
CONTINUE FOR, I FOLLOW A PLAN TO, TO PLAN FOR THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, UH, NEEDED GOING, GOING FORWARD.
HOW DOES THAT SOUND TO PEOPLE? GOOD.
MARK, IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? IT'S GOOD.
UH, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS, UH, THERE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST, UH, JARED, I, I'LL EXPLAIN THIS.
YOU MAY WANT TO ADD IN, UH, JARED CALLED ME AND, AND WAS REAL CONCERNED THAT THERE WERE NEEDS AT THE HILTON NET AIRPORT AND WE REALLY WEREN'T PROVIDING ANY, ANY, NOTHING TO DO WITH AIRPORTS WAS MENTIONED IN HERE.
AND THEREFORE THESE FUNDS JUST SIMPLY COULD THEN NOT BE USED FOR ANY AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS.
SO I SUGGESTED ADDING LANGUAGE IN THIS SECTION THAT SAYS IN COMMERCIAL AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, SO THAT KIND OF TAKES THE HEAT OFF THE LADIES ON THE LADIES ISLAND AIRPORT PUTS THE FOCUS ON THE OLD THERE INSIDE OF MASS, MASS TRANSIT.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY INCLUDE MARINE TRANSPORT AND COMMERCIAL AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN WHAT I DID IS I KICKED THAT MASS TRANSIT NUMBER FROM 89.5 TO A HUNDRED MILLION AND I DROPPED SAFETY AND TRAFFIC FLOW FROM 2 68 5 TO 250.
AND THEN, UM, ON THE NEXT PAGE I, UM, I, I KICKED UP I THINK PAVEMENT, RESURFACING AND PRESERVATION UP TO 180 MILLION.
BUT THAT'S ON THE NEXT PAGE AND I THINK ALL THESE NUMBERS WORK OUT RIGHT.
YOU SAID YOU CHANGED THE ONE, SEVEN AND NINE TO 180 5, 180.
I THINK I TOOK AWAY SOME AND ADDED SOME AND MM-HMM.
UM, WELL, AM I MY THANK YOU ON THAT.
AND THE REASONING KIND OF BEHIND THAT IS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, WE HAD AIRPORTS IN THERE BEFORE AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT LISTED AS FUTURE PROJECTS.
THE FEAR WAS THAT IF IT WASN'T LISTED AT ALL, IT'D BE A HARD ASK FOR A FUTURE PROJECT DESIGNATION.
UM, SO THAT HELPS ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.
UM, THE OTHER THOUGHT, JUST ON THESE NUMBERS, UM, THEY'RE JUST KIND OF A LITTLE BIT RANDOM AS IT IS BECAUSE WE STARTED WITH PERCENTAGES AND WE GOT INTO POINT FIVES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MEANINGFUL.
UH, IT'S NOT REALLY THAT MUCH, BUT TO CLEAN SOME OF THESE UP AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND SUBTRACT FROM ONE TO MAKE IT SO THAT 2 5500 WOULD JUST BE TWO 50.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
I MEAN, THESE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW ARE PRETTY RANDOM AS YOU SAID.
THEY WEREN'T RANDOM WHEN WE STARTED, BUT NOW MOVING HALF A MILLION OR A MILLION HERE, THERE,
JUST ROUND 'EM TO THE NEAREST NUMBER.
SO LIKE, THAT ONE WOULD BE JUST STRAIGHT 250.
AND THEN ONCE WE GO THROUGH THIS TWO MINUTE EXERCISE, WE CAN SEE WHAT OUR NUMBERS.
DO YOU WANNA MAKE THIS ONE 90? YEP.
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AND I WOULD SAY 180 ON PATHWAYS 1 79 90 90.AND NOW WE CAN JUST ADD 'EM UP AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE.
UM, ON NUMBER, UH, THIS, I'M ON PAGE SIX MM-HMM.
SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES, SUGGESTIONS OTHER THAN NUMBER, NUMBER FIDDLING THAT WE'RE DOING HERE? PAGE SIX ON THE ING COMMITTEE? YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE I WANT.
ONE, I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ADD THE WORD OVERSIGHT.
SO OVERSIGHT ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO TO THE TITLE.
AND WE MAKE THAT A SEVEN MEMBER COMMITTEE.
MORRIS, THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT, WANNA TALK ABOUT RECOMMENDATION? GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT BE SPECIFIC ABOUT IT.
JACK, DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? CHAIR SOUND REASONABLE? ANYTHING LESS THAN ANYTHING LESS THAN 17 IS GREAT.
JUST WANTED, JUST WANTED TO KNOW.
JUST WANTED, JUST WANTED TO KNOW YOU.
DISTRICTS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
WAS THAT, WHAT WAS THE OFFICIAL NAME OF THAT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE? WAS IT, DID IT HAVE THE WORD CITIZEN IN IT? CITIZENS OVERSIGHT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
SO YOU WANT CITIZENS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
DO YOU WANT ADVISORY? WHY? WHY DO YOU HAVE TO PUT ADVISORY? THEY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE REAL AUTHORIT, ARE THEY? WELL, NONE OF NO COMMITTEE DOES.
THAT'S STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE.
WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT THAT? CITIZEN OF OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
JARED, AS, AND THEN TWO LINES DOWN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT'S SUCCESSFUL CITIZENS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, JUST ADD THE WORD CITIZENS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
TELL ME WAY YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CAROL IN THE TEXT.
TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT ME TO TALK.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED? MM-HMM.
SHOULD BE CITIZENS, NOT CITIZEN.
PAGE SEVEN, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONCLUSIONS.
SO NO ONE THROW ANYTHING AT ME, BUT, UM, THERE'S NO DISCUSSION.
NOT EVEN A SENTENCE ABOUT A THIRD BRIDGE.
IT'S, OH, DID I MISS IT? WHERE IS IT? FUTURE PROJECTS.
I'M GLAD YOU GUYS ARE WATCHING OUT.
FUTURE PROJECTS IS THAT FISH DIMENSION OF THAT FISH THAT'S THE RIGHT PLACE BETWEEN FORT ROYAL AND LADIES ISLAND.
I SAID BASICALLY AS AN EXAMPLE.
AND WHILE NOT SPECIFICALLY LISTED HERE, A THIRD BRIDGE BETWEEN PORT ROYAL ISLAND AND LADIES ISLAND HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR DECADES.
AND GIVEN THE GROWTH ON LADIES ISLAND MAY BECOME NECESSARY BEFORE TOO LONG.
AND I'M SORRY, I I I'M SORRY WE CAN'T THROW ANYTHING AT YOU.
UM, HOW ABOUT, UH, REDUCING, UM, NUMBER THREE, CITIZEN OR THE COMMITTEE SHOULD PRIORITIZE ALL CENTRAL PROGRAMS SUCH AS, AYE.
UH, PAGE SEVEN, NUMBER THREE OR I, I, I AT THE TOP, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD PRIORITIZE ALL CENTRAL PROGRAMS, SUCH AS SOUNDS FINE TO ME.
INSTEAD OF CREATE A PRIORITY INDEX,
SO I WOULD PUT, UH, CITIZENS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THE VERY FIRST TIME WE MENTION IT, I WOULD DO A PEREN YEAH.
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AND THEN YEAH, YEAH.AND PRAYER, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IN QUOTES AND THEN CLOSE PEREN.
AND THEN WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMITTEE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO GO BACK UP THAT WAY BEING ONE, THEN GO BACK UP THERE.
PUT IT IN QUOTES INSIDE THE, THE, UM, INSIDE THE PARENTHESES PARENT.
AND THEN THAT MEANS EVERY TIME THEREAFTER WHEN YOU SAY YEAH.
COMMITTEE YOU REFERENCING, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LEGAL THING THERE.
UHHUH
DEAN, I WANT TO, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE BASICALLY AGREED ON THE TRIPLE, TRIPLE I TRIPLE THREE OR THE THREE, UM, DIRT ROADS PAVING.
SO, UM, THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT DEFINE, WE WERE EVEN TALKING ABOUT STAFF ON THIS.
SO WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR PAVING PLAN RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT PAVING PLAN IS SIMPLY COUNTY ROADS.
UM, SO THE THOUGHT HERE WOULD BE, AND INSIDE OF OUR PAVEMENT PLAN, WE'VE GOT WHERE WE DO MULTIPLE TYPES OF PAVING OPERATIONS BECAUSE EACH ROAD IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO WE HAVE A REGULAR, LIKE WHERE YOU MILL IT AND YOU FILL IT BACK WITH ASPHALT, WE HAVE A, UM, A THIN LIFT, A MICROSS SURFACE, RIGHT? AND THEN WE HAVE A REJUVENATOR, WHICH IS WE JUST PAID FOR LAST YEAR.
AND WE'RE SPRAYING THIS CHEMICAL ON IT.
UM, AND THAT'S JUST ON OUR COUNTY ROADS, RIGHT? SO THE THOUGHT IS ONE, EXPANDING THAT TO ALL COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL ROADS.
BUT THEN HOW DO WE ALSO PLAY THAT WITH DOT ROADS? BECAUSE THE OVERALL IDEA AND INTENT, UM, INTENT IS TO IMPROVE EVERY SINGLE ROAD IN THE COUNTY, WHOEVER IT BELONGS TO, TO KEEP 'EM IN THE BEST CONDITION WE CAN.
SO IT MAY BE THAT WE CREATE, WE'RE, WE CAN'T KEEP UP, WE DON'T, EVEN WITH THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY, WON'T BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH RESURFACING DOTS, ROADS.
SO LET DOT RESURFACE THEIR ROADS, BUT MAYBE WE COME BEHIND THEM IN YEAR ONE, TWO, OR THREE AND DO SOME PRESERVATION TREATMENT ON TOP OF THAT.
RIGHT? SO, UM, SO WE HAVEN'T WORKED OUT ALL THE KINKS IN OUR MIND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE BESIDES, UM, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PAVING PROGRAM AND YOU TALKING MORE OF NEW ROADS.
BUT THERE THE NEW ROADS THOUGH.
HE SAID THAT'S IN THE PLANT, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WE, WE, ON THE PROGRAM PROJECTS, WE PUT DIRT ROAD PAVING AND, UM, RESURFACING ALL THAT IN THE SAME BUCKET.
WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T SEPARATE 'EM.
WE HAVE A DIRT ROAD HAVEN PLAN, A FIVE YEAR PLAN.
AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT WOULD BE TO CONTINUE THAT PLAN, JUST AMP IT UP.
SO THEN, AND AGAIN, THIS WAS DISCUSSION TODAY AT IN STAFF, BUT THEN NOW WE'VE GOT IT ALL DIRT ROAD PAVING AND PAVING, RESURFACING, ALL IN THE SAME BUCKET.
NOW WE GOTTA SAY, OKAY, WELL WE'RE GONNA SAY 50% GOES TO DIRT ROAD PAVING AND 50% GOES TO DIRT ROAD OR UM, PAVEMENT PRESERVATION INSIDE THE BIG BUCKET PROGRAM BUCKET THAT WE'RE SCHEDULING OUT HERE.
SO THERE'S MORE WORK TO DO BETWEEN STAFF AND THIS COMMITTEE TO DEFINE THE OVERALL EXPENDITURE.
BUT THE INTENT IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE POURING GASOLINE ON OUR DIRT ROAD PAVING PROGRAM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
AND THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY JUST LOOKING AT COUNTY ROADS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT MUNICIPAL ROADS AND DOT ROADS AND ALL PAVE ROADS WITHIN THE COUNTY TO IMPROVE IN SOME FASHION.
WHAT ABOUT, I GUESS I'M GOING A LITTLE DEEPER.
WHAT ABOUT THE MOM AND POP ROADS THAT IS NOT IN THE SYSTEM? PRIVATE SYSTEM? YEAH.
SO THIS, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THERE.
YOU HAD SHARED SOMETHING WITH US ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS WERE DOING IN COLLEGE AND COUNTY.
WELL, AND UM, IN COLLETON COUNTY, THOSE ARE ALL COUNTY OWNED ROADS ROAD.
WHAT JIM WAS SAYING ONE TIME WAS THEY CREATED A PROGRAM WHERE IT WAS THEIR NON-STANDARD ROAD PROGRAM.
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AND ON THAT ONE, I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY IF IT WAS MOM AND POP ROADS OR IF IT WAS ROADS THAT THEY HAD BEEN MAINTAINING, UM, FOR YEARS.WE CALL THOSE OUR LEGACY ROADS THAT WE DON'T OWN A TRUE DEEDED TO.
THERE'S A PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT.
I THINK WHAT CHARLESTON WAS REFERRING TO WAS THE ONES THAT THEY HAVE THIS PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT TO, UM, THAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO IMPROVE OR PAVE, BUT INSTEAD OF ASKING FOR 50 FEET, THEY WORKED OUT THAT IT WAS, SAY IF THERE'S A 20 FOOT DRIVE ROUTE RIGHT NOW THEY JUST GOT 20 PLUS FIVE ON EACH SIDE AND GOT 30 FOOT EASEMENT.
UM, SO IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY ANSWER MOM AND POP OR PRIVATE, BUT THE ONES THAT WERE STRUGGLING, HOW MANY MILES OF THOSE TYPE RULES WE HAVE IN THE COUNTER, YOU THINK MOM AND POP LIKE THAT? UM, SO WE HAVE 200 MILES OF DIRT ROAD.
UM, AND EXCUSE ME, WE HAVE 200 ROADS OF 80 MILES OF DIRT ROAD LEFT.
I SHOULD KNOW THESE TATTS 80 MILES OF DIRT ROAD.
UM, COUNTY OWNED DIRT ROAD COUNTY.
COUNTY OWNED AND COUNTY OWNED IN ALL FACETS, WHETHER IT'S PRESCRIPTIVE OR WHETHER IT'S DEEDED.
UM, NOW THERE'S MORE ROADS OUT THERE THAN THAT, THAT ARE PRIVATE, PRIVATE ROADS, BUT WE HAVE 80 MILES OF DIRT ROAD.
UM, LIKE YOU SAID THOUGH, IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO, WE WERE TAKING A LONG TIME TO GET TO DOING A ROAD.
EITHER COUNCILMAN GLOVER OR COUNCILMAN DAWSON ASKED THE QUESTION BEFORE, LIKE, WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, HOW LONG BEFORE WE'RE DONE PAVING DIRT ROADS AND IT WAS LIKE 37 YEARS.
SO THIS, EVEN IF WE DOUBLED IT, IT WOULD PUT IT CLOSER TO 15 OR 20 YEARS, WHICH IS, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT OVERNIGHT.
UM, BUT THAT'S A LOT FASTER THAN WHERE WE ARE.
UM, AND HERE, HERE'S A FEAR THAT I DO HAVE IS SAY IN 20 YEARS WE'RE AT A PLACE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A COUNTY OWNED DIRT ROAD IN OUR SYSTEM.
UH, I THINK THAT WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF HANDS THAT WILL BE RAISED.
WELL WHAT ABOUT MY DIRT ROAD? AND SO WE WILL HAVE THE, THE PRIVATE DIRT ROADS THAT ARE ASKING FOR THEIR ROADS TO BE COUNTY OWNED DIRT ROADS.
BUT THAT'S 20 YEARS AGO AND THAT'D A BE SHIFT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
AND THAT'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL ADAPT A WE'LL, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL DO WHAT WE NEED TO AT THAT POINT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT, WE GOT AT LEAST 40 YEARS WORTH OF DIRT ROADS IN FRONT OF US WITH OUR SAME STATUS QUO.
WAS, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRASTICALLY SPEED THAT UP.
I HAVE ONE OTHER, ONE OTHER ISSUE, ONE OTHER SUGGESTED CHANGE, UM, ON PAGE FIVE UNDER THE NORTH BLOCK TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, OUR, THE DRAFT READS BASICALLY, UM, UH, FLOOD PREVENTION ON WARS ISLAND ROAD.
I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO SAY FLOOD PREVENTION ON ACCESS ROADS SUCH AS WARSAW ISLAND ROAD, GOOD ISLAND.
UM, 'CAUSE I WORSE ON ISLAND ROAD IS REALLY THE EXAMPLE, BUT WE HAVE MULTIPLE, RIGHT.
MULTIPLE SITUATIONS AROUND THE COUNTY THAT'S IN THE SAME CITY.
ANYTHING ELSE?
I KNOW WE'VE GOT A DRAINAGE PROGRAM IN PLACE.
UM, NOTHING IN THIS ADDRESSES DRAINAGE OR IT COMES WITH THE REALITY THAT IF THE ROAD'S GOING TO BE BUILT TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE IS PART OF THAT.
SO, AND JIM HIT ON THIS BEFORE.
UM, SO WE CAN DO DRAINAGE AS IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH A ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT SO LONG AS IT'S A ROAD PROJECT FIRST, NOT A DRAINAGE PROJECT FIRST.
SO THEY HAD A PROJECT IN, UM, IN CHARLESTON, GLEN MCCONNELL PARKWAY AND IT WENT ACROSS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UM, TITLE CREEK WETLAND WETLAND.
AND THEY WANTED TO USE FUNDS FOR THAT.
AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION WAS NO, THAT, THAT'S A PROJECT OF ITS OWN MERIT.
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PROJECT BY NATURE.YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A ROAD GOING OVER THE DRAINAGE CULVERT AND IT'S A DRAINAGE PROJECT FIRST.
SO YOU CAN DO THE PROJECT JUST NOT WITHOUT SALES TAX, TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX FUNDS.
SO INHERENT TO ANY OF THESE PROJECTS, WE WILL HAVE DRAINAGE, BUT WE, WE CAN'T CALL IT OUT AS DRAINAGE PROJECTS.
I WAS JUST, WELL NUMBER SIX WHERE WE SAID WE FOCUS ON ACCESS AND CONNECTING ROAD SMART SIGNALS.
WHAT PAGE ON PAGE SEVEN ON NUMBER THREE? NUMBER SIX.
SO REALLY A LOT OF OUR SIGNALS ARE ALREADY PARTIALLY SMART.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW SMART DO WE MAKE 'EM.
UM, SO A SMART SIGNAL, THE, THE DUMBEST SMART SIGNAL SIGNAL STARTS AT A ACTUATED SIGNAL.
SO WHEN IT IS NOT ON A SET TIME AND A CAR PULLS UP AND IT KNOWS THAT THERE'S A CAR THERE, THAT IS A SMART SIGNAL.
BUT THEN YOU START GETTING INTO ADVANCED LEVELS OF SMART SIGNAL WHERE IT CAN DETECT A CAR THAT'S APPROACHING THE SIGNAL.
UM, THE ADAPTIVE SIGNALS THAT THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD HAS RECENTLY IMPLEMENTED IS IT PLAYS INTO THAT.
SO IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE A SET TIMING AT ALL.
AND SO THOSE ARE ALL SMART SIGNALS.
MOVING ELECTRIC VEHICLE SERVICES.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? UM, I DON'T KNOW FULLY, BUT ANYTHING.
SO ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE SOMETHING THAT IS APPROACHING AND WHATEVER, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THAT.
UM, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT JUST ELECTRIC, IT'S SERVED VEHICLES.
MAYBE IT'S ELECTRIC VEHICLES OR CONNECTED VEHICLES BECAUSE UM, ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THERE'S CHARGING AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT'S ASSOCIATED.
UM, CONNECTED VEHICLES ARE, IT GETS INTO LIKE INTERNET OF THINGS AND TECHNOLOGY THAT YOUR CAR IS SENDING OUT AND IT'S RECEIVING SOMETHING, UH, A 5G SERVICE AND IT'S COMING PINGING BACK OFF OF EACH LIGHT POLE WITH A 5G TOWER TO IT.
UM, SO THAT IT GETS INTO, AND, AND MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE UPDATED.
SO IT UM, IS CONNECTED ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND CONNECTED VEHICLES.
HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT HYDROGEN? UM, NO, BUT I'M UP FOR IT.
UM, AND, AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE HITTING ON IS THERE'S THINGS OUT THERE THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE FULLY KNOW, BUT WE KNOW THAT OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS WE'RE GONNA SEE CONTINUED ADVANCEMENT IN TECHNOLOGY AND HOW DO WE CREATE THAT IN THIS, RIGHT? LIKE GET AHEAD OF IT.
SO MAYBE RATHER THAN BEING SPECIFIC AND CALLING OUT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, WE PUT A AND EXACTLY.
AND OTHER ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES.
OR I'M NOT SURE WHAT OTHER ADVANCED TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGIES.
HOW ABOUT WE SAY THAT SMART SIGNALS AND OTHER ADVANCED TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGIES, IS THAT FIT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING TO ON TRY? YEAH.
OR DO YOU THINK THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC? NO, I KNOW IT'S, I KNOW IT'S COMING.
I MEAN, HYDROGEN'S ALREADY USED AND I KNOW HYUNDAI IS PLANNING ON DOING HYDROGEN.
AND I KNOW SAVANNAH'S ALREADY PUTTING IN A HYDROGEN.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE BUSES ARE LOOKING AT HYDROGEN AS WELL.
LIKE, UH, MASS TRANSIT BUSES ARE ALL RIGHT.
UM, IF WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS, AND THIS IS WHERE MY KIND OF CONFUSION CAME IN ON PAGE THREE, WOULD YOU ALL BE WILLING TO SAY, UH, SEVEN BEHIND THE RECOMMENDATIONS BIG PROJECT, PROJECT PROGRAMS AND HAVE LIKE AN EQUAL SIGN? LIKE WE'RE PUTTING THE NUMBERS NEXT TO EACH ONE OF THESE THINGS.
WE TALK ABOUT BIG PROJECTS MAYBE HAVE AN EQUAL 650 MILLION PROJECT PROGRAMS, 895 MILLION.
AND A NUMBER ON A NUMBER ONE B AND C.
A AND B WOULD BE SIX 50 AND 8 95 6.
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AND THEN MAYBE WE BOLD 1, 6, 2, 5 IN THE NEXT P THE PARAGRAPH EIGHT.JUST SO WE, I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE NUMBERS TO MAKE SURE THE NUMBERS ARE CLEAR.
WE'RE ASKING FOR THESE PROJECTS, THEY ADD UP TO WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OR MAYBE I WAS DENSE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT.
NO, I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
THE NUMBERS WERE KIND OF SWIMMING FROM.
WELL WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T YOU SAY THAT IN THE NUMBER SEVEN, THE COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED THAT THE REFERENDUM, UH, COLLECT AND SEE IT RIGHT THERE.
UM, FOR COLLECT FOR 15 YEARS OR UP TO 15 YEARS OR 1.6, CALL OUT THE, THE BIG NUMBER RIGHT THERE AND THEN AND IT'S BROKEN INTO TWO TYPES OF PROJECTS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SIX 50 AND THE 8 75 OR WHATEVER THAT NOW YOU CAN SEE ON ONE PAGE ALL THE NUMBERS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING? YEAH, BUT I KIND OF DON'T WANNA MESS UP DEAN'S DEAL THERE.
HE'S GOT A GOOD DEAL GOING THERE.
'CAUSE HE REALLY DISCUSSES AT LENGTH THE AMOUNT AND DURATION OF THE TAX.
BUT I GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING.
I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO PUT THE READER AT BIG PROJECT SIX 50 PROJECT PROGRAMS, 8 95 AND THEN BOLD THAT 1 61 0.625 BILLION.
SO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE START TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC, I THINK WE SHOULD CALL THEM IN THE, AND PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I'M BEING TOO NITPICKY HERE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE READER TO SEE BIG PROJECTS, PROGRAM PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, PROJECT PROGRAMS. SO LIKE B ON PAGE FOUR SHOULD SAY SPECIFIC BIG PROJECTS AND AMOUNTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE CALLED THEM IN RIGHT BEFORE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AM I MUDDYING THE WATERS? I DON'T MEAN TO NO, THAT MAKES SENSE.
SPECIFIC BIG PROJECTS THAT ANNOUNCED AND THEN IN C UH, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVE PROJECT PROGRAMS. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE CALLED THEM IN THE FIRST PROJECT PROGRAMS. YES.
SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF PROJECTS, PROGRAM, PROJECT PROGRAM, PROJECT PROGRAM PROJECT PROGRAMS AS WELL AS IT MM-HMM,
WELL YOU CAN CALL 'EM TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PROGRAMS IF YOU WANT.
I DIDN'T WANT MESS WITH THIS LANGUAGE THAT MUCH.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE BIG PROJECTS AND AMOUNTS.
OH, YOU SAID SPECIFIC B BIG PROJECTS.
AND B YOU WANNA SAY SPECIFIC PROJECT? BIG PROJECTS AND AMOUNTS AND, UM, TRANSPORTATION PROJECT PROGRAMS AND AMOUNTS.
AND THAT WAY WE'RE REFERRING BACK TO BIG PROJECTS AND PROJECT PROGRAMS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES.
SPECIFIC PROJECT PROGRAMS AND AMOUNTS OR PROJECTS, PROJECT PROGRAMS. AND THEN THE ONE UP ABOVE WHICH, UH, BIG A, A OR B RATHER, WELL ON PAGE THREE SEVEN A IS SIMPLY SAYING BIG PROJECTS YOU'RE GOING TO, WE EXPECT TO HAVE 650 MILLION IN, IN BIG PROJECTS AND THEN WE BREAK IT OUT ON EIGHT OR PAGE FOUR.
SO I DON'T THINK YOU NEED SPECIFIC ON PAGE THREE.
IN FACT, WE CAN EVEN TAKE OUT SPECIFIC AND WE CAN SAY BIG PROJECTS AND AMOUNTS.
THAT'S WHAT UNDER BS THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO.
SPECIFIC BIG PROJECTS AND AMOUNTS.
TAKE OUT THE WORD SPECIFIC AND THEN IF YOU'RE GONNA GO TO PAGE NEXT PAGE FIVE, WE'RE GONNA CALL THOSE PROJECT PROGRAMS AND AMOUNTS DOWN.
THAT'S QUITE, SO THAT WE KIND OF MIRROR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
HERE ARE THE BIG PROJECTS, THIS IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT, HERE ARE THE PROJECT PROGRAMS, THIS IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT.
THEN WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT EACH ONE AND GIVING THOSE INDIVIDUAL AMOUNTS, THEY'RE GONNA ADD UP TO SIX 50 AND 8 95.
AND RIGHT NOW I THINK WE NEED TO SHAVE 75,000, 75 MILLION.
BUT I DON'T, I MIGHT BE WRONG.
AND I'M SORRY IF I NO, NO, THOSE ARE GOOD POINTS.
WHAT ELSE? ALL RIGHT, WELL UM, GET THESE NUMBERS STRAIGHT.
UM, AND UM, AS, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WE'RE GOING TO SIGN,
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WHERE DID YOU HAVE, SHOW ME WHERE YOU HAD, UM, ON THE LAST LAST PAGE.DID YOU GO TO PAGE AGAIN? THE LAST PAGE? ALRIGHT.
OR THE NEXT TO LAST PAGE WHERE IT SAYS THE NEXT TO LAST PAGE I MOVED CONCLUSIONS DOWN.
I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH ROOM WE WERE GOING TO NEED AND I JUST MADE IT ITS OWN PAGE LIKE THAT.
AND THEN AS YOU GUYS WILL SEE MM-HMM
THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS, AS WE WORK THESE NUMBERS OUT, ARE WE READY TO SIGN THIS THING? ABSOLUTELY.
DO Y'ALL WANT TO READ THROUGH IT OR DO YOU WANT CAROL TO PRINT IT OR ARE YOU GOOD? WRITE THE NUMBERS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE RIGHT.
SO YEAH, LET'S, I THINK WE HAVE SOME NUMBERS TO FIX IN THE SECOND SET.
THE BIG PROJECTS, UH, THE, THE, THE, UH, BIG PROJECT SIX 50 I THINK WE'RE WE, WE WE OWN IT.
WELL LET'S ADD WHILE WE'RE AT IT, I THINK THE PROJECT PROGRAMS WE'VE GONE OVER A LITTLE BIT.
IF SOMEONE WANTS TO CHECK MY MAP ON THAT.
SO I'M GONNA CHECK IT RIGHT NOW.
DID WE CHANGE THAT? WE CHANGE THAT FROM 8, 9 5? YES.
TO WHAT YOU THINK PROJECT DATA.
WHICH ONE WAS THAT PAGE, PAGE SIX PAGE, UM, 365 WAS GROUP 89 5.
YOU JUST, YOU JUST WANT US TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE STILL HERE.
YOU KNEW THAT GLOVER AND UH,
SO MONDAY NIGHT WE'RE GOOD ON THE BIG PROJECTS.
SO GOOD NEWS, OUR BAD NEWS IS, IS WRONG.
UM, THAT 8, 9 5 IS ACTUALLY 9 75.
SO WE GOT SIX 50 IN BIG PROJECTS AND THEN THE DELTA BETWEEN 1,000,000,625 AND SUBTRACT SIX 50 IS 9 75.
SO WHEN WE ADD UP THE PROGRAM PROJECTS BELOW, THEY ADD UP CURRENTLY AS WE'VE JUST EDITED AS 970.
RIGHT? SO THERE'S $5 MILLION SHORT THAT NEED TO BE ADDED SOMEWHERE.
PUT MY NAME IN MY ADDRESS WHERE THAT 5 MILLION
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THE COST IS ROUTING NUMBER
WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE PUT IT, WE GONNA, I WOULD RECOMMEND WE PUT IT IN THAT, UM, SAFETY AIR FORCE IMPROVE.
I HAVE A COMMENT IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO MAKE IT.
UM, THE LAST ONE, GREEN BELTS IS AT 80 IS, WHICH IS CURRENTLY A LITTLE LESS THAN 5% OF THE, I THINK 5% IS LIKE 81 MILLION.
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UM, IS THAT THERE? I PUT FIVE INTO THERE.85 AT THE GREEN BELTS RIGHT THEN NO ONE'S GETTING TOO LITTLE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SO I THINK THAT TOTALS OUR TOTAL.
REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK.
WE'LL SEE IF I SURVIVE MONDAY EVENING.
OH, YOU HONOR, IS THIS GONNA BE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET FOR SO THEY CAN READ IT BEFORE THE EVENT? YEAH, WE'VE GOT IT.
WE'VE GOT IT LOADED UP, CAROL.
YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND UPDATE THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS, BUT THIS MEMO WILL BE, WE ALSO HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT CORRECT.
SO THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO READ IT BEFORE DEAN SAYS WE'LL REALLY SEE WHO READS IT.
ALRIGHT, WELL WHAT I WOULD LIKE, I'LL SIGNING IT AND I'M GONNA TAKE, I'M GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS MEMO, UH, FOR ITS SUBMITTAL TO COUNTY COUNCIL, UH, AND PRESENTATION TO COUNTY COUNCIL ON MONDAY.
DO I HAVE SUCH A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
90 HE ROUNDED KIND OF UP EVERYTHING JUST TO MAKE THEM ROUND NUMBERS.
HE'S GONNA SEND US A CLAIM COPY.
SO YOU'LL SEND US, YOU'LL YOU WANNA, DO YOU WANT PRINT A COPY OR JUST THE ELECTRONIC? JUST SEND IT TO ELECTRONIC.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? WHAT TIME ARE WE MEETING ON MONDAY? WE'RE MEETING AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
AND THE WAY I PLAN TO DO IT, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING I DID LAST YEAR WAS TO SIMPLY GO THROUGH THE MEMO, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY READ IT A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT TO GO THROUGH IT POINT BY POINT.
AND UM, AND, AND THEN, AND AND FAR AS I'M CONCERNED QUESTIONS CAN HAPPEN AS I GO.
SO WE HAVE A FIVE O'CLOCK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.
BUT WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE HOUR AND THERE'S NOTHING ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT THIS.
BECAUSE I CAN, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, UM, HAVING QUESTIONS JUST COME AS I GO THROUGH IT.
SO IF, IF THERE QUESTION ON I SAY SOMETHING, RAISE A QUESTION, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
AND THEN FIVE
NO, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY.
INSTEAD OF SAYING COULD YOU GO BACK TO PAGE TWO AND TALK ABOUT THIS? I THINK THEY SHOULD ASK AND THEY SHOULD HAVE READ IT.
SO THEY SHOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AVAILABLE.
I THINK THAT'S A BETTER FOR DEAN ARE YOU GOING IN FRONT OF, OF COUNCIL OR A COMMITTEE? WELL, I'M GOING IN FRONT OF A COMMITTEE BUT UNDER, ON A DAY WHERE THE COMMITTEE MEETING IS HELD JUST BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING, THE PROBABILITY IS THAT 90% OF 'EM ARE GONNA BE SITTING THERE.
AND, AND THEN THERE IS A COUNCIL MEETING THEREAFTER.
AND THIS UM, ITEM IS GOING TO HAVE AN ACTION ITEM ASSOCIATED WITH A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND IF THAT'S A POSITIVE ACCEPTANCE THEN THAT WILL MOVE TO COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING AND THEY WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT AT THERE AS WELL.
AND THAT'S AT SAME DAY? SAME DAY? THAT WOULD BE THE SAME DAY.
SO WHAT THAT DOESN'T DO, THAT DOESN'T PUT IT ON THE REFERENDUM RIGHT? THAT JUST SAYING THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.
WE RECEIVE IT, WE'VE ACCEPTED IT.
AND THEN THE PLAN FROM THERE IS THAT, UM, DEAN HAS BEEN VOLUNT ASKED VOLUNTOLD,
MR. CHAIRMAN ASKED, SO LOCO, UM, IN THE FIRST PART OF JANUARY.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT THERE HAS STILL BEEN NO FORMAL ACTION, JUST THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
THEN UM, WHAT'S PLOTTED RIGHT NOW IS IF EVERYTHING'S STILL MOOSE PER THE PLAN OR PER AS COUNTY COUNCIL DESIRES, UM, THEY WOULD START A FIRST READING
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OF AN OF COUNTY ORDINANCE AT THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, WHICH I THINK IS THE 22ND OF JANUARY FOR FIRST READING.THEN WE HAVE TO DO THREE READINGS AT COUNTY COUNCIL AND THEN IT WOULD GO IN FEBRUARY.
SO BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, IF THAT ALL TRACKS THERE WOULD BE THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE APPROVED FOR IT TO BE SENT TO THE STATE AS A REFERENDUM.
AS A VALID QUESTION, IS THE FOUR O'CLOCK MEETING TELEVISED? YES.
SO WE CAN WATCH, YOU CAN WATCH ON COUNTY TV OR ON YOUTUBE.
DO YOU WANT US TO BE HERE? 'CAUSE I DON'T NEED TO.
I MEAN IF YOU, IF YOU, IF I SEE, I MEAN OF COURSE I I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU THERE IF YOU CAN WATCH IT.
I'M NOT SURE YOU GET TO I I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE THAT GETS TO SAY ANYTHING.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE HAVING TO DRIVE UP HERE AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON ON, YOU KNOW, A MONDAY, I, I CAN THINK OF ABOUT 5,000 REASONS THAT I WOULD PREFER TO AVOID DOING THAT IF I LIVED IN SOUTHERN BEFORE COUNTY.
BUT, UM, I'LL WATCH YOUR COMMAND PERFORMANCE.
AND I CAN JUST SEE YOU GOING
SO, BUT I, I'M PREPARED, I'M PREPARED TO DO IT.
SO ACTUALLY AND UM, THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING PART WIN.
I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT IF YOU COMMITTEE MEMBERS THERE, BUT I THINK THE SIGNATURE IS JUST, IS ESSENTIAL.
YOU GOT A UNANIMOUS SIGNATURE THAT SHOULD SAY A LOT THERE.
UM, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, CAN I JUST THANK ALL OF YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
I LEARNED A LOT AS I TOLD JARED A LOT OF STUFF I DIDN'T KNOW.
SO I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD THING.
I DON'T THINK COUNCIL'S GOING TO DO ANYTHING BUT APPLAUD YOU.
WELL I REMEMBER WHEN WE TOOK IT TO 'EM IN 22, THERE WERE A BUNCH OF 'EM WHO DIDN'T LIKE IT, AT LEAST GOING INTO THE PROCESS AND, AND YOU REMEMBER THAT.
BUT WHEN THE TIME CAME FOR FIRST READING WAS THE UNANIMOUS FIRST READING.
AND, AND THEN OF COURSE MY DEAR FRIEND GOT DERAILED TO TOM CAME IN AND UH, HE BLEW US OFF.
BUT UH, YEAH, HE ASKED, HE'S ASKED FOR MY FORGIVENESS FOR THAT.
WELL THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR LEADER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.
WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR VOTING ME YOUR LEADER WHEN I WASN'T THERE.
BEFORE YOU LEAVE I JUST HAVE, CAROL AND I HAVE SOMETHING REAL SMALL.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL DONE.
SO WE CAN TALK TRULY HOW WE FEEL
Y'ALL HAVE BEEN A GREAT, GREAT BUNCH.
AND WE HOPE Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT CHRISTMAS.
YOU THINK WE DID A GOOD JOB MEETING? THANK YOU.