[IX.1. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Pearce Scott Architects, on behalf of the Owner, Billy Watterson, for review of a Certificate of Appropriateness - HD to allow the construction of a new 3,517 SF 2-story restaurant building, 1,200 SF restaurant Carriage House structure, and 120 SF commercial garden structure in the Ma Daisy's Porch Development Planed area, on the parcel currently addressed as 1255 May River Road, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General - HD. (COFA-09-23-018501) (Staff - Katie Peterson)]

OKAY AND NO OLD BUSINESS EITHER. SO WE'LL MOVE TO NEW BUSINESS AND I WILL RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ONCE AGAIN AND THIS. GOOD EVENING MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER. TODAY BEFORE US WE HAVE A REQUEST BY PIER SCOTT ARCHITECTS BEHALF OF THE OWNER BILLY WATTERSON FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW 3517 SQUARE FOOT TWO STOREY RESTAURANT BUILDING A 1200 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT CARRIAGE HOUSE STRUCTURE THE BAKERY RESTAURANT IN ALL BUT IT IS THAT YOU AND 120 SQUARE BUT GARDEN STRUCTURE ON PROPERTY IDENTIFIED AS 1255 MAIN ROAD IN THE BOSTON DISTRICT ZONE NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL HD THE SITE ONE THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST OTHERS OF YOU ARE NEW TO COMMISSION SINCE THIS WAS BEFORE US IT IS THE STRUCTURE ON THE L-SHAPED OR SEVEN SHAPED LOT HERE.

THIS IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TO THAT LOT. THIS IS A REPLACEMENT TO THE ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED AS THEY THROUGH THE PROCESS TO ENGINEER SOME OF THE THINGS AND AND CHANGE A FEW ITEMS ON THE INTERIOR IT CAME THAT THEY NEEDED TO CHANGE SOME THINGS ON THE EXTERIOR AS WELL SO THOSE ITEMS WERE LARGE ENOUGH THAT THEY COULD NOT BE THROUGH AN AMENDMENT BECAUSE THEY ALTERED THE CHARACTER OF THE APPROVAL THE HPC AND SO YOU HAVE BEFORE A NEW CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WHICH IS FAIRLY SIMILAR BUT NOT QUITE SIMILAR TO THE APPLICATION WHICH WAS BEFORE YOU ALL PREVIOUSLY I HAVE THE FLOOR PLANS AND SECOND FLOOR PLANS FOR YOU HERE OF NOTE ON THE FLOOR PLANS THE AREA WHICH WAS AN OPEN MEZZANINE HERE HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE HAS BEEN ADDRESSED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT WHICH WAS AT DRC TODAY I KNOW IN THE STAFF REPORT IT SAID THAT IT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED AND THOSE ITEMS THEY I DO HAVE ONE MORE THING TO ADDRESS THEM OR IS IT WHERE THEY'RE COMING? RIGHT. I BELIEVE THE THE COMMENTS WERE ALL FAVORABLE. THEY MAY HAVE HAD ONE ADMINISTRATIVE THING THAT THEY NEEDED TO CARRY THROUGH FROM DRC TODAY. THERE WAS NO CONCERN BASED ON THE MEETING TODAY THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS REVIEWED THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THIS SITE AND HAS NO ISSUE THERE. SO THE PARKING HAS BEEN ACCOMMODATED FOR AND THE SITE PLANNING HERE THE FOOTPRINT AND THE I'M SORRY THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR FOR THE CARRIAGE HOUSE AND THEN THE FIRST FLOOR FOR THE GARDEN STRUCTURE IS IT IS ONLY A ONE STORY STRUCTURE AND THEN THE ROOF PLAN HERE SO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WHICH AGAIN THIS IS A NEW BUT IT HAD THE ONE DORMER HERE AND AND METAL ROOFS I BELIEVE ON THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE STRUCTURE IT ALSO HAD A ROOF STRUCTURE AT THE BACK OVER THE PORCH AND NO STAIR STRUCTURE ON THE SIDE HERE SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED FROM ORIGINAL BUT AGAIN NEW NEW APPLICATION SO THE CRITERIA JUST AS STATED IN THE UDL AND THEN THIS IS THE

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CARRIAGE HOUSE AND THE GARDEN STRUCTURE HERE FOR THE ROOF PLANS AND THEN THE ELEVATIONS.

SO THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION AS YOU WOULD SEE FROM MAY RIVER ROAD IT IS SET BACK ON THE LOT BEYOND THE FRONT BUILD TO THE ADMINISTRATOR HAS GRANTED AN EXCEPTION TO THE FRONT BILL TO BECAUSE OF THE LARGE THAT ARE IN THE FRONT OF THAT PROPERTY AS WELL AS SOME DRAINAGE INFORMATION THAT HAS THAT EXISTS ALREADY AND WILL BE BUILT UPON BUT NOT BUILT UPON BECAUSE YOU'RE LEAVING IT AS DRAINAGE BUT IMPROVED UPON THERE YOU GO IN THE SIDE THERE AND THEN THEY TOOK AND SHE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THE PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS IN THIS LOCATION PREVIOUSLY. SO WAS ALREADY CLEAR OF TREES PRIMARILY IN THIS IN THIS SPACE SO IT IS BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER FROM THE ROAD THAN WE TYPICALLY SEE THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED ALREADY. AND THEN THIS IS THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE HERE ON THE BOTTOM. THIS WOULD BE WHAT TOWARDS THE WATERSHED BUILDING OR THE THE JENNY KITTY MUNICIPAL BUILDING WHICH IS THE WHAT FUNCTIONS THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON WATERSHED MANAGEMENT OFFICE THIS IS THE REAR ELEVATIONS.

THIS IS TOWARDS DUMPSTER AND THEN THE BACK PROPERTY LINE AND THE STRUCTURE RESIDENTIAL BEHIND AND THE LEFT ELEVATION WHICH FACES TOWARDS THE INTERIOR OF THIS SITE WHICH WILL FACE TOWARDS THE DE MARKET AND THE GULLAH HERITAGE CENTER WHICH IS THE DEER TONGUE WAREHOUSE. THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.

SO AS IT SITS IT WILL BE PLACED THAT THE GARDEN STRUCTURE SITS BETWEEN THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE AND THIS ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THIS SIDE WILL BE WHAT FACES IN TOWARDS THE TOWARDS THE INTERNAL SIDE OF THE NO YES TOWARDS THE GET YOU HERITAGE CENTER AND THE MARKET DAY MARKET. I CAN'T EVERY TIME I AND THEN PRONOUNCE IT WRONG I'M GOING TO GET IT BEFORE IT'S BUILT I PROMISE. SO INTERNAL TO THE SITE THIS IS THE SIDE THAT FACES TOWARDS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE THE SIDE THAT FACES TOWARDS THE WATERSHED BUILDING AND THEN IT FACES TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE LOT AND THEN THIS IS THE GARDEN STRUCTURE WHICH HAS THE SMALL OPENING FOR THE METAL DOOR OF THIS IS GOING TO HAVE LIKE A FREEZER UNIT INSIDE OF IT BUT HAS THE CORRUGATED METAL SIDING ON ALL FOUR SIDES TO MATCH THE SERVICE YARD DETAILS IN THE STAFF THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS IS JUST IDENTIFYING THAT THIS WOULD BE REUSED WITHOUT RE USED OR RECYCLED MATERIAL SINCE METAL SIDING IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PERMITTED AS A BUILDING WALL MATERIAL UNLESS IT IS ONE OF THOSE TWO ITEMS. THESE ARE THE PERSPECTIVES THEY PROVIDED FOR US JUST SO WE COULD GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER FEEL FOR HOW THAT SITE LOOKS SO THIS IS IF YOU ARE STANDING INTERIOR BUT ON MAY RIVER ROAD THIS SITE WOULD BE IF YOU ARE STANDING KIND OF IN FRONT OF WATERSHED MANAGEMENT LOOKING TOWARDS THE SITE AND THEN FROM THE REAR INTERNALLY AND THEN FROM BEHIND WATERSHED BUILDING . I'VE INCLUDED SOME OF THE DETAILS HERE.

SO THIS IS THE HOOD SYSTEM THAT YOU SEE ON THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURE HERE AND THEN THE BACK OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE STRUCTURE HERE AND IS NOT OBVIOUSLY THERE AT THIS TIME BUT AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR WITH THEIR STRUCTURE AND THEN THE DETAILS FOR THE SERVICE YARD, THE STAIRS AND THE HOOD DETAIL ITSELF UP HERE THE DOOR DETAILS AND WINDOW DETAILS THE WINDOW DETAIL THE ONLY ONE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO SPECIFICALLY IS THIS SMALL F WINDOW HERE WHICH IS THE SLIDING WINDOW THAT WAS ALSO IDENTIFIED.

THE STAFF REPORT SLIDING WINDOWS AREN'T TECHNICALLY PERMITTED BY OUR ORDINANCE ARE NOT PERMITTED BY ORDINANCE TECHNICALLY OR OTHERWISE HOWEVER IT IS UP TO ALL THEY HAVE REQUESTED A DEVIATION FROM THE OPERATION OF THE WINDOW IT IS LOCATED ON THE STRUCTURE RIGHT THERE'S THE MOUSE HERE SO THERE'S ONE HERE AND ONE HERE WITH A FIXED WINDOW IN THE MIDDLE. SO MAY RIVER ROAD IS UP AT THE FRONT HERE AND THIS IS THE SIDE PORCH FACING INTERNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND SO THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE REQUESTING THE DEVIATION FROM THAT AND THEN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IS IN TWO PIECES HERE SO WE'VE GOT THE BACK OF THE LOT THIS IS THAT THE PARKING AREA OR THE SHORTER SIDE THE AISLE AND THEN IS THIS ROW OF BUSHES HERE FALLS AT THE BACK OF THE BAKERY HERE SO THEY LINE UP RIGHT THERE AND THIS IS

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THE CONTINUATION OF THERE IS A FENCE THAT RUNS ALONG THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE.

JOE ASKED ME THIS QUESTION REAL QUICK ABOUT THE THE BUFFERING ON THE BECAUSE OF THIS STORMWATER DITCH THAT RUNS DOWN THE SIDE OF THIS THERE CAN'T BE TOO MUCH DENSE PLANTINGS THAT ARE INSTALLED ON THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE THAT BOLD DARK LINE OR BOLD BLACK LINE ON THE SIDE OF THIS PORTION OF IT IS A RETAINING WALL THAT ACTUALLY IS HOLDING THE SIDE OF THAT DITCH SO THAT IT DOESN'T GET ENCROACHED UPON AND SO THAT IT DOESN'T CAVE IN IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT IS AN ACTIVE STORMWATER DITCH THAT EXISTS ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THERE AND THEN THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE IS LOCATED TO THE BACK HERE WHICH WILL BE THE INTERNAL MOST CORNER OF THE LOT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AS THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS THE HPC CONSIDERS THE EIGHT REVIEW CRITERIA WHICH ARE FOUND IN SECTION 318 THREE OF OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND THEY CAN APPROVE THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT STAFF WENT THROUGH THE APPLICATION AND FOUND THAT WITH FOLLOWING CONDITIONS I FIND THAT IT COULD MEET THOSE CRITERIA.

HOWEVER IT IS UP TO YOU ALL TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THOSE CRITERIA.

IF YOU DO NOT MIND MADAM CHAIRMAN, I WILL GO THROUGH ITEMS REAL QUICK JUST SO THAT THEY'RE THERE AND THEN WE CAN OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO THE APPLICANT, SPEAK TO THE PROJECT IF YOU LIKE. ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE CONDITIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT B ADDRESSED THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN DID GO TO THE DRC THIS ITEM AS IT IS ADMINISTRATIVE AND IT IS A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL IN PLACE PRIOR TO THIS THIS CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPROVAL I WOULD PREFER IF YOU DO FEEL THAT AN AN APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS COULD BE MADE THIS APPLICATION YOU LEAVE THAT ONE ON THERE JUST SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE ADMINISTRATIVELY WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN THE RIGHT ORDER IF THEY HAD ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT ONE COMMENT THAT THERE WAS ON THE DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT WHICH IT CAN BE ADDRESSED TO JUST MAYBE AS A SCRIBNER'S THERE ON THE PLANS IF IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED THEN IT WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE THEY WILL HAVE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF THAT AND IT WON'T IMPACT THIS APPROVAL AT ALL BUT THAT JUST IN CASE THEY DO NEED TO SUBMIT A REVISED SET OF PLANS FOR THE ENGINEERING PORTION OF IT WE'VE GOT THAT COVERED . THE SECOND ONE IS THAT ALL SINGLE FAMILY OR ALL BUILDINGS EXCEPT FOR SINGLE FAMILY REQUIRE AN EXPRESSION LINE DELINEATION BETWEEN THE FIRST STORY AND THE SECOND STORY THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE DID NOT HAVE ONE OF THOSE.

I'LL BRING YOU BACK TO THAT IN JUST A SECOND BECAUSE THE NEXT ONE IS THE COLUMN SPACING ON THE CARRIAGE HOUSE IS ALSO A LITTLE BIT I BELIEVE IT'S OFF BY SIX INCHES ON A FEW OF THOSE COLUMNS FACING I'VE GOT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT WHICH YOU ALL RECEIVED SO THE COLUMN SPACING THAT'S OFF IT'S MEASURED ON CENTER HERE AND IT I BELIEVE IS NINE SIX AT THE DISTANCE IS NINE SIX THE HEIGHT IS NINE FOOT SO IT IS CLOSE BUT JUST NOT QUITE THERE ON THE COLUMN SPACING ON THAT. SO EITHER THE SIDE COULD BE BROUGHT IN OR OR THE COLUMNS RECONFIGURED A BIT SO THERE'S A LITTLE MORE GROUP OVERHANG OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. THE EXPRESSION ON LINE WOULD BE EXPRESSION LINE. I MISSED AN X IN THAT WORD A COUPLE OF TIMES TODAY WOULD BE JUST ON THE CARRIAGE HOUSE STRUCTURE HERE B FOURTH ITEM IS THAT WINDOW F WHICH IS A SLIDING WINDOW IT WOULD NEED TO BE REVISED A DOUBLE HUNG SINGLE HUNG CASEMENT OR I BELIEVE TILT WINDOW IN ORDER TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THE ODIO IF YOU ALL FIND THAT THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE SUBSTITUTION IN THIS INSTANCE YOU COULD ALLOW FOR A DEVIATION FROM THAT REQUIREMENT SHOULD YOU SEE FIT OTHERWISE THAT IS THE ITEM THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED BY STAFF AS NOT MEETING THE ORDINANCE TO THE YOU THERE THE FIFTH ONE IS THAT ANY PROPOSED SIGNAGE WOULD NEED TO GET A SIGNED PERMIT THAT'S SOMETHING I PUT ON EVERY SINGLE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COVERED AND THE LAST ONE IS THAT THERE ADDITIONAL DETAIL ON THE METAL SIDING TO ENSURE THAT IT IS EITHER RECLAIMED OR RECLAIMED MATERIAL FROM THE SITE WHERE THEY HAD REMOVED IT FROM THE OTHER BUILDINGS OR THAT IT IS A RECYCLED MATERIAL BECAUSE CORRUGATED METAL IS NOT A PERMITTED BUILDING MATERIAL OTHERWISE AND IT WOULD NEED TO BE CHANGED TO A PERMITTED BUILDING MATERIAL IF IT IS NOT ONE OF THOSE.

SO THOSE ARE THE SIX ITEMS THAT I HAVE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM OR ASK THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING ADD I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AT THE RF WINDOW IS THERE TO SERVE OUT OF THOSE WINDOWS? I WILL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK THAT WHEN SHE'S ABLE TO PRESENT AND ALSO ON THE FRONT DOOR LET'S SEE WE GO TO THE WINDOW SCHEDULE IS THE PATTERN ABOVE THE DOORS LOOK SQUARE AS OPPOSED TO THE VERTICAL AS THE REST OF THE YEAH IT'S ONE YOU

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KNOW IT COULD BE MY EYES BUT TO ME THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE SQUARE VERSUS VERTICAL OR RECTANGULAR. I J AS WELL IS IT JUST MY EYES G IS FOR SURE SHE IS CORRECT ONE EIGHT AND IT'S 32I CAN I CAN LET THEM SPEAK TO AS WELL IF YOU DON'T MIND BECAUSE IT JUST IT JUST I ROTATING SOME GLASS MOUNTAINS OUR SQUARE PATTERNS VERSUS THE VERTICAL YES. OUR ORDINANCE DOES IN THEORY ABOUT FOUR SQUARE OR VERTICAL TRANSIENTS ARE ALLOWED OVER DOORS OR WINDOWS REAL DOORS OR WINDOWS THAT FORCE DOORS AND WINDOWS SO A SQUARE WOULD BE A PERMITTED TYPE. HOWEVER MOST OF THE OPENINGS ARE RECTANGULAR SO I CAN LET THEM SPEAK TO THAT A BIT. YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME REAL QUICK OR RIGHT? WHERE'S THE AGAIN? IT WAS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ON THE PROPERTY IT'S LOCATED I GUESS SO THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN. THIS IS THE MARKET. THIS IS THE GO GET YOU HERITAGE CENTER AND THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE VIEWING TONIGHT WITH THE CARRIAGE HOUSE RIGHT HERE WHICH ARE BOTH BEING REVIEWED. THIS IS NEIGHBOR OF ROW DOWN HERE.

THIS IS LIKE I CAN'T EVER SAY IT RIGHT POMODORO AND MAY HAVE MISSED SYLLABLE THERE WHICH THE THAT WAS THE BURRITO PLACE IS RIGHT HERE SO THIS IS THE STREET THAT'S BETWEEN THOSE TWO BUILDINGS THE DUMPSTER IS RIGHT HERE OKAY OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? NO. OKAY.

I THINK THAT THEY HAVE ASKED THE APPLICANT YES SIR. WOULD YOU EXPRESS MOST OF THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT AREAS WERE FOR THE PURPOSES. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK I'M PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD THEN PEOPLE TEND TO MAKE HI I'M SARA KEPPEL REPRESENTING PIER SCOTT ARCHITECTS AND I CAN EITHER GO THROUGH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION INS OR TAKE QUESTIONS ON WHAT YOU PREFER. HAVE YOU SEEN COMMENTS ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST TO GO THROUGH THOSE THE FIRST ONE WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST ADDRESSING PLAN AND I BELIEVE THE ONLY COMMENT ON THAT LOOKING BACK AT THE REPORT APPROVED TODAY WAS THE DUMPSTER GATE.

THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE STRUCTURE OF THE DUMPSTER GATES OTHER THAN THAT EVERYTHING WAS FINE WITH THAT. SO NUMBER TWO TALKING ABOUT THE DELINEATION IN LINE AT THE ACCESSORY BUILDING AND THE REASON WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT SHOWN INITIALLY GO TO ELEVATION IT'S JUST IT'S SUCH A SMALL ONE ONE AND A HALF STORY STRUCTURE THAT WE FELT LIKE IT WOULD LOOK TOO SQUATTY OR TRUNCATED IF WE ADDED DEFINITELY AT THE FLOOR SYSTEM SOME OF A BAND IF IF YOU ALL DO INSIST THAT WE NEED TO ADD ONE WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST PERHAPS ON THE SECOND FLOOR WINDOW SILL EXTEND THE WINDOW SILL AROUND THE BUILDING SO THAT IT'S A THIN LINE BUT IT WOULD MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BAND BOARD BUT TRUNCATE THE BUILDING TRY TO KEEP BETTER PROPORTIONS BUT THAT WOULDN'T DELINEATE THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR.

WELL IT WOULD HINT THAT THERE IS A SECOND FLOOR BUT IF WE PUT THE DELINEATION LINE EXACTLY ON THE FIRST FLOOR IT WOULD MAKE IT FEEL LIKE THE SECOND FLOOR WOULD FEEL TOO HEAVY.

LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ELEVATION FOR INSTANCE IF WE WERE TO PUT THE BAND BOARD RIGHT HERE IT WOULD MAKE THE SECOND FLOOR FEEL TALLER THE FIRST FLOOR BECAUSE OF THE GABLE RIDGE AND WE WERE JUST WORRIED THAT WE JUST FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE BETTER PROPORTIONED TO EXTEND THE WINDOWSILL LEVEL AS THE BAND BOARD IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE ELEVATION YOU COULD RUN THAT BAND BOARD EVEN WITH THAT PORCH BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THAT LOOK RIGHT THERE AND THAT IS THAT IS EXACTLY DELINEATING THE SECOND FLOOR. YES.

BUT IT WOULDN'T BE THE WHOLE THICKNESS OF THAT. AND IF YOU SEE HOW THAT KIND OF WRAPS AROUND WHERE FRONT PORCH IS THAT THE PORCH IS A SLOPED OPEN PORCH OPEN RAFTERS AND THAT WOULDN'T BE RELATING TO EITHER WHERE THE PORCH DIES INTO THE BUILDING OR THE BEAMS . IT JUST IT'S A LITTLE HARD THAT IT WOULDN'T CARRY AROUND THE BUILDING IT WOULD REALLY ONLY WORK IN THAT ONE ELEVATION FACING THE FRONT PRIMARY BUILDING BUT THEN IF YOU TRIED 211 THE WINDOW SILL THAT DOESN'T WORK AS WELL BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST RUN RIGHT ABOUT THAT PORCH ROOF IT WOULDN'T HAVE IT AT ALL.

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WELL THERE I MEASURED THERE IS ABOUT SIX INCHES FROM THE WINDOW SILL TO THE PORCH ROOF WHICH YOU KNOW, MAJORITY OF THAT WOULD BE FLASHING ANYWAY RIGHT.

SO I THINK IT WOULD IT WOULD BE A VERY CLEAN CONNECTION TO THAT WINDOW SILL BUT IT WOULDN'T DELINEATE THE I PERSONALLY THINK IT NEEDS TO HAVE THAT BAND BOARD THINNER SMALL SAYING FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR. OKAY WE COULD CONSIDER THAT. YEAH ANYWAY IT WAS IT WAS KIND OF A PROPORTION THING SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON ON THE BAND THAT THAT WAS I WAS OUR TAKE ON IT I WOULD AGREE THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE BAND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE YOUDO BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT AT THE SILL HEIGHT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE SPOT FOR IT WOULD CREATE A NICE BASE AND TOP PROPORTION AND PROBABLY THE WINDOW PLUS A LITTLE BIT OF APRON UNDERNEATH THAT JUST TO FILL THAT GAP BETWEEN THE ROOF WOULD SURE YEAH AND THAT WOULD REFLECT THE ARCHITECTURE ON THE LARGER BUILDING IN FRONT OF IT. SO THE SAME THING AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT BOTH WAYS TOO AND IF STAFF COULD I DON'T KNOW IF THIS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE APPROVED AT STAFF LEVEL THAT WE'RE AGREEING TO ADD THE BAND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD HOW THAT WOULD WORK BUT WE WE DEFINITELY AGREE WE CAN ADD THE BAND JUST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS THE BEST PROPORTION FOR THE BUILDING THAT SIDE FACES THE SIDE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WHICH SIDE IS IT FACE AS A FACE THE THE MAIN STRUCTURE TOWARD THE DUMPSTER SO THE SIDE WITH THE STAIRS AND THE GABLE END FACES THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. OKAY SO THIS FACES THE ONE OF THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE BAND FOR FACES DUMPSTER AREA TOWARD THE BACK.

WELL YEAH THE ONE WHERE WE ARE TO ON THE TOP LEFT FACES THE DUMPSTER BUT THE BAND WOULD BE CONTINUOUS ON ALL FOUR SIDES AND ALL THE WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR ARE ALL IDENTICAL SO THAT THAT SILL BAND WOULD BE CONTINUOUS AROUND THE WHOLE BUILDING THERE.

SO BASICALLY YOU ARE SAYING IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT IT A LITTLE CLOSER TO SEE WHERE EXACTLY YOU COULD PUT YEAH YEAH WE'LL DEFINITELY ADD IT.

WE WERE JUST PROPOSING THIS POINT AS A CONDITION. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SHIP THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH STAFF OR WOULD THAT HAVE TO COME BACK IF YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH STAFF REVIEWING THAT ITEM THAT IS JUST FINE.

WHOEVER BECAUSE THE TWO OPINIONS THAT I HAVE HEARD CURRENTLY ARE CONFLICTING I WOULD LIKE AT LEAST A DETERMINATION ON WHERE THAT BAND BOARD SHOULD BE BUT ACTUALLY GETTING IT ONTO THE PLANS IS SOMETHING THAT I FEEL COMFORTABLE REVIEWING AT A STAFF LEVEL. SHOULD YOU ALL FEEL THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

OKAY I'M OKAY IF YOU'D PUT IT AT THE SILL YOU KNOW IT JUST NEEDS SOME DELINEATION.

MM HMM. AGREE I'M FINE IF YOU PUT IT AT THIS.

NO. FEELS LIKE THE OKAY GREAT. WELL WE'LL MAKE THAT ADDITION AND QUESTION WITH THIS. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.

MY QUESTIONS WITH YOU WITH OUR SLIDING WINDOW THEN THE COLUMNS SO THIS IS THERE I JUST JUST TO SAY IN ORDER SO WE DON'T LOSE TRACK OF ANYTHING ON ME DOUBLE CHECK AND THE NEXT THING IS THE COLUMN SPACING. WE'RE AT THE CARRIAGE HOUSE REAL QUICK SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLOOR PLANS OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE I BELIEVE THE COLUMNS ARE MEASURED CENTER TO CENTER AND I THINK PERHAPS WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT IS THE END COLUMNS OR TYPICALLY DIMENSION TO THE EDGE OF THE COLUMN AND THEN THE CENTER CAN I ZOOM IN ON THAT AT ALL THAT IS NO NOT THAT WAY.

SO IT'S NOT ZOOMED PAGES THERE BUT SO ESSENTIALLY CENTER TO CENTER ON THE SIDE BAYS IS NINE ONE CENTER TO CENTER ON THE CENTER BAY IS NINE FOOT TWO AND THEN FROM THE PORCH FINISH FLOOR TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BEAM IS NINE THREE. SO IT'S IT DOES MEET THAT NARROWER THAN TALLER REQUIREMENT AND AT WHAT SIZE COLUMNS ARE THEY? I THINK THEY'RE EIGHT INCH COLUMNS SO THE MEASUREMENT FOR THE COLUMN SPACING IS ON CENTER ONLY THE MIDDLE TWO I'M SORRY. YES SO TYPICALLY THE WAY THAT YOU DIMENSION COLUMNS AND PLANE IS TO GO FROM THE EDGE OF THE PORCH TO THE CENTER OF THAT SECOND COLUMN SO I CAN SEE HOW

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IT MIGHT BE PERCEIVED THAT OR NINE HERE WELL THAT'S TO WINDOW HEADER THAT DIMENSION IS THAT I'M SORRY THERE'S A NOTE ON THAT DIMENSION THAT SAYS THAT'S THE WINDOW EDITOR SO REALLY THE BEST PLACE TO SEE THAT WAS THE BUILDING SECTION AND I DOUBLE CHECKED IT BEFORE I CAME FROM THE PORCH FLOOR TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BEAM IS NINE FOOT THREE AND ACTUALLY THEN IN BETWEEN THE COLUMNS EIGHT FOOT ONE IF YOU WENT FROM INSIDE COLUMN TO INSIDE THERE BUT CENTER AND THE COUNTER THE CENTER OF THE CENTER YOU DO SO I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THE TOWN WAS REVIEWING AND I SHOULD HAVE ADDED THAT EXTRA DIMENSION ON THERE JUST FOR CLARITY I DON'T TO MENTION THE BEAM BECAUSE WE'VE CALLED OUT THE TOP OF THINGS BUT YOU'VE GOT IT YOU'VE GOT A WINDOW DIMENSION THERE THAT IS TO THE WINDOW HEAD THAT'S NINE FEET AND THEN THE PORCH WILL BE SLOPING AWAY AND THE BEAM IS A LITTLE LOWER THAN THAT AND SO WE'LL GET THERE BASED ON THIS I'M SORRY. NO, NO, IT'S FINE. AND YES, TO TOP A PLATE HERE.

YEAH, SO I SHOULD HAVE NOTED THAT BUT I CAN CLARIFY THAT I CAN ADDED DIMENSION AND SHOW STAFF BUT THE PORCH FINISH FLOOR TO THE BOTTOM SIDE OF THE BEAM IS NUMBER THREE.

THE FIRST THING ABOUT THAT THERE I GOT THE WRONG THING ON HERE BUT I MUST HAVE READ THAT IS PLATE HEIGHT INSTEAD OF WINDOW HEIGHT. YES.

WELL AND IT'S RIGHT ON THAT FRONT ELEVATION SO I CAN SEE THAT THAT'S THE DIMENSION YOU WERE LOOKING FOR THERE AND THAT'S EASY SO SO I'LL CLARIFY THAT IN I'LL DIMENSION THE PLAN AND THE BEAM BUT I THINK WE'RE ALREADY WHERE WE NEED TO BE FOR THAT ONE.

SO THAT WAS NUMBER THREE. NUMBER FOUR IS THE WINDOW F SO THE SLIDING WINDOW THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR. IT WAS APPROVED IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION AND WE HAVE NOT MOVED IT AND THIS WAS IT WAS LOCATED BASED ON PREVIOUS COMMENTS THAT WE HAD RECEIVED SO IS THE VIEW FROM THE FRONT FROM MAY RIVER ROAD AND SO OUR INTENTION WAS TO LOCATE THE SLIDING WINDOWS AS FAR BACK THE MAIN STRUCTURE AS POSSIBLE AND ALSO OFF OF A PORCH THAT I BELIEVE IS 15 FEET DEEP. SO IT'S VERY A VERY FILTERED VIEW AND WE WERE HOPING TO GET THIS APPROVAL BECAUSE OF THE USE OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS A RESTAURANT AND THE OWNER WAS HOPING TO BE ABLE TO SERVE TAKEOUT DIRECTLY THE OUTSIDE IN THE BACK AS OPPOSED TO HAVING PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE RESTAURANT. AND THIS WAS JUST A NICE WAY TO DO THAT AND SO IT DOES ALSO THE INTERIOR OF THE LOT AND TO THE LEFT OF THIS BUILDING THE LYCHEE CULTURAL CENTER I'M SORRY THE GOLD CULTURAL AND THEN FURTHER BACK IS TO MARKET AND ACROSS FROM THE BAKERY THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THIS VIEW SO AND THAT WAS KIND OF OUR DEFENSE OF ASKING FOR AND IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED PRIOR IS WHAT YOU WERE STATING IT WERE HAVE THAT FROM PRIOR IS THERE TO COMPARE FROM WHAT IT CAME FROM TO WHAT IT IS NOW IT IS THE SAME IT THE SAME SLIDING WINDOW THAT WAS ON A PREVIOUS VERSION THAT WAS APPROVED.

HOWEVER THIS IS A NEW CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. THAT'S RIGHT, YES.

SO WHAT ON THIS FRONT WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY IT USED TO BE BRICK AND NOW IT'S WOOD, IT'S HEARTY.

OKAY. SO WE DID NOT CHANGE ANY OPENINGS ON ANY OF THE PORCH AREA RIGHT NOW THAT SLIDING WINDOW DEFINITELY USED SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF SERVING FOOD OUT OF IT. YES. YES.

AND THAT KIND OF WINDOW IS THE BEST THING TO HAVE FOR THAT PURPOSE WE LOOKED AT A FEW DIFFERENT VERSIONS BUT WE REALLY LIKE THE SLIDING ONE THE BEST BECAUSE IT WOULD SELF CLOSE AND BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE AIR CONDITIONING AND NOT OVERHEATING THE KITCHEN NOT NECESSARILY AND ADDING EXTRA HUMIDITY. SO IT WAS GOING TO BE BETTER FOR HEATING AND COOLING EQUIPMENT TO HAVE A WINDOW THAT SELF CLOSED AS OPPOSED TO A CASEMENT WINDOW OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE PROPPED OPEN DURING SERVICE.

THERE'S JUST A LOT OF HOT AIR THAT WOULD COME INTO THAT AND WE'RE JUST TRYING ALREADY TO ADD A LOT OF MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT THAT'S REQUIRED TO KEEP THE KITCHEN AT A LEVEL SO OF HUMIDITY AND COOL SO IN THAT WINDOW ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE KITCHEN NOT A COUNTERTOP ON THE INSIDE, CORRECT? IT IS KITCHEN. LET'S SEE ARE YOU ON THE VIEW? OH, UM SAVE NOW YOU RIGHT CLICK YOU DO THAT YOU PUT THAT RIGHT THERE THAT'LL PUT YOU RIGHT BACK IN THAT FIGHT. YES I FIGURE OKAY SO ON THE FLOOR PLAN YES.

SO WINDOWS ARE HERE THE BOTTOM LEFT SIDE THIS WHOLE SPACE IS THE KITCHEN AND ESSENTIALLY THEY HAVE A SET UP WHERE HAVE COUNTERTOP WHERE THEY CAN PASS EQUIPMENT OR SERVE PEOPLE AND

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THEN PAY FURTHER DOWN IT'S IT'S ALL LITERALLY JUST ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT I WOULD ASSUME THERE IS NOT A DIVIDED LIGHT OPTION FOR THE TRANSOM OR PICTURE PARTS OF IT THERE ISN'T YEAH THIS IS KIND OF A A STANDARD WINDOW THAT YOU BUY BECAUSE IT WOULD ALSO HAVE AIR CURTAIN THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP THE AIR CONDITIONING INSIDE.

IS THERE A TRANSOM ABOVE IT? IS THERE A I SELECTED THE TRANSOM VERSION I BELIEVE OF THE WINDOW. LET ME IS THERE A SIDE ELEVATION OF THAT.

HERE WE GO. YES I DID THE ONLY OPTION I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ZOOM AGAIN IT'S AT THE BOTTOM BOTTOM LEFT HERE THE WINDOW THAT YOU CAN SEE BEYOND THE PORCH SO THERE'S A SLIDING WINDOW PACKAGE ON THE LEFT AND THEN A FIXED WINDOW AND A SLIDING WINDOW PACKAGE ON THE RIGHT. SO IN THIS VERSION I ALREADY SELECTED THEIR WINDOW HAD A TRANSOM IN ORDER TO GET AT LEAST THE HEIGHT TO MATCH EIGHT FOOT DOOR WHICH IS ADJACENT TO IT. BUT YOU DO TRANSOM AT THE GRID IN JUST THE TRANSOM AND THE FIXED GRAPH AND NOT THE SLIDING WELL THE WHOLE PIECE COMES AS ONE UNIT THE THREE WINDOWS MAYBE SHOWING YOU ON THE WINDOW SCHEDULE WOULD CLEAR THAT UP. SO IF YOU LOOK HERE AT WINDOW F THAT WHOLE UNIT COMES AS ONE PIECE YOU KNOW I WAS KIND OF THINKING ABOUT WHETHER WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE LIGHTS OR WHETHER IT NEEDS LIKE ANOTHER TRANSOM OR THE TOP.

I THINK ANOTHER TRANSOM OR THE TOP FEELS BUSY TO ME AND I THINK IT RELATES SORT OF TO THE YOU KNOW, STOREFRONT WINDOWS ON THE FRONT AND I THINK IT NEEDS THAT PERHAPS A SLIDING WINDOW.

SO IT'S KIND OF IN THE OLD PAT PATTERNS BUILDING NOW NEKTAR HAS A STOREFRONT SLIDING WINDOW LIKE THIS. I DON'T THINK I HAVE IT THAT'S A LITTLE CONTRIVED TO US WHEN WE WE DID TEST DIFFERENT HEIGHT OPTIONS WITH THAT AND IT IT FELT A LITTLE CONTRIVED TO TRY TO GET THE HIERARCHY OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING BACK THERE.

BUT I THINK IF YOU USE THAT DOOR IT'S IT'S NOT A WHEN YOU'VE GOT THREE WINDOWS OF THE SAME THAT ARE TALLER THE DOORSTEP SIT DOWN AND THEN THIS RELATES TO THE DOOR.

SO I THINK THAT HELPS HOW THAT ALL FEEL TO FEEL ORGANIZED IN THERE AND IN THE SPACE JUST TO LET YOU KNOW SO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE HAS A LITTLE HIGHER CEILINGS THAN THE BACK BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THE DROP CEILING IN THE KITCHEN. SO THERE'S THREE WINDOWS WITH THE TRANSOM. WE JUST WE MADE THE THE WINDOWS AS HIGH AS WE COULD IN THAT FRONT PIECE OF OF THE OF THE STRUCTURE ON ALL THREE SIDES AND WHICH IS WHY WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ON THIS SIDE THIS FACING THE WATERSHED BUILDING WE WANTED THIS ROOM TO FEEL VERY UNIFIED AND WE HAD ALL THOSE THINGS ALL THE WAY AT THE BOTTOM IF YOU WANT WANTED TO LOOK FLY THROUGH IT IF YOU'VE DONE OH OKAY. OKAY.

BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU DON'T NEED THE SECTIONS OF THESE SLIDES IN THE WAY TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE ELEVATIONS, HIS OWN HOUSE, EVERYTHING SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL I DON'T KNOW JUST THIS ONE. SO ANYWAY YOU CAN SEE THAT WE REALLY TRIED TO JUST MAX OUT THE WINDOWS IN THE FRONT DINING SPACE SO IF THERE'S A CONCLUSION ON THAT ITEM WE COULD THAT'S ACTUALLY THE LAST ITEM SO SO IT LIKE I'M SO SORRY OH SORRY THAT YOU HAD MY YES MY STAFF REPORT SEEM TO HAVE LEFT TWO ITEMS OFF OF THE ENDLESS BUT ARE INCLUDED IN THE MIDDLE PORTION OF IT. OH SORRY I'M NOT TRYING TO BLINDSIDED I'M SORRY THE TWO ITEMS THE FIRST ONE WAS THE MATTER OF THE METAL. METAL I SAW YOU REVIEW THAT ONE. YES YES. AND THEN THE OTHER IS THE THE ROOF APPURTENANCES SO THERE'S THERE'S A GOOD AND A BAD ON THE ROOF OF PERTINENCE.

I'M SO SORRY. SO THE ROOF APARTMENT SAYS THE HOOD SYSTEM HERE.

OOPS. SO WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED IS A TWO SITS TWO HOODS ON THE PRIMARY SO I GUESS I WANT LIKE THIS AND THE OTHER ONE AT THE SAME TIME SO TWO THAT ARE STACKED ON OF EACH OTHER HERE AND OKAY YOU CAN SEE UP FRONT AND ON THE FRONT YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THEY'RE IN THE BACK THERE'S A SET THEY ARE THEIR WAY ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING BUT THEY'RE STACKED THIS DIRECTION. THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS FOR BUILDING SAFETY AND FOR THE FIRE WHICH IS NOT PART OF THE ARCHITECTURE YET BUT WILL BECOME A CHALLENGE WITH THE ARCHITECTURE AND SHE'S INCLUDED THE THIS HERE THERE IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THESE VERY UGLY AND IT'S THAT YOU HAVE A CLIP

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SO AND I'VE PUT THE CODE SECTION IN THERE IT'S THE 359.1 TALKS ABOUT ANCHORAGE CONNECTING DEVICES SO IT'S BASICALLY A HOOK THAT YOU CAN CLIP INTO WITH A HARNESS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THESE BIG FENCES WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD THING YOU STILL NEED THE PLATFORM BUT YOU DON'T NEED THE THE FENCE THE PLATFORM IS ABLE TO DISAPPEAR A LITTLE BIT BETTER ESPECIALLY IF IT IS PAINTED THE SAME COLOR AS THE ROOF SO THAT IT CAN KIND DISAPPEAR. HOWEVER THE CHALLENGE WITH WHERE THE HOOD SYSTEMS CURRENTLY ARE IS THAT IN ORDER TO BE THAT FLAT SURFACE HERE IT WILL RUN INTO THE LITTLE SHED HERE AND ALSO HAVE TO BE VERY LARGE AND STEP IN ORDER TO GET TO THIS SECOND ONE HERE AND THE FINAL ITEM WHICH NOT IT IS A REAL ITEM BUT IT'S A MINIMAL ITEM IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE A LADDER THAT CAN THAT IS AFFIXED TO THE BUILDING PERMANENTLY. IT'S NOT A REMOVABLE LADDER LUCKILY BECAUSE THIS IS THE REAR OF THE BUILDING AND IT IS AWAY FROM THE STREET THE PLACEMENT IT WE DON'T HAVE ANY LANGUAGE THAT RESTRICTS ADDING A LADDER TO THE SIDE OF A BUILDING SO IT'S NOT TOO MUCH OF A CHALLENGE WITH THAT BUT IT DOES TO BE CONSIDERED AS THE PLACEMENT OF IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ON THERE.

WHEN I SPOKE TO RICHARD IN THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS BECAUSE SORRY I FORGOT ABOUT THE LATTER ENTIRELY THE SYSTEM I DID NOT FORGET ABOUT BUT THE OTHER ONE I DID HE GAVE OPTIONS THAT POTENTIALLY ONE COULD BE INSTALLED RIGHT HERE ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE AS LONG AS THEY CAN GET FROM THIS IT'S ANY BUILDING THAT'S MORE THAN 16 OR ANY YEAH.

ANY ROOF THAT'S HIGHER THAN 16 FEET SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ON BOTH OF THESE HERE BUT PLACING THE LADDER EITHER FROM THE PORCH HERE OR POSSIBLY INCREASING DEPTH OF THIS LANDING ON THE TOP HERE AND HAVING IT GO UP SO THEY USE THE STAIRS AND THEN THE LADDER SO IT'S A SHORTER LADDER AND IT TAKES UP LESS PROMINENT LOCATION OR EVEN JUST HAVING THE FULL LADDER RUN DOWN THE SIDE HERE WOULD BE AN OPTION. I DON'T KNOW THERE IS ANY PREFERENCE BUT IT WILL NEED TO BE SHOWN ON THE PLANS WHERE THAT GOING TO BE PLACED AND HOW THOSE PLATFORMS ARE GOING TO WORK. STEPH'S PREFERENCE BECAUSE THE ROOF PENETRATIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET IF AT ALL POSSIBLE EITHER STACKING THEM SIDEWAYS SO ROTATING THEM SO THAT SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND ONLY ONE IS VISIBLE FROM THE STREET SO THEY CAN HAVE ONE FLAT PLATFORM RATHER THAN A STEPPED LARGE PLATFORM OR SOMETHING OF THE TYPE THAT'S TO THE HPC IS THAT YOU ALLOW STAFF TO WORK THEM TO GET THAT RESOLVED AND POTENTIALLY IF YOU HAVE A CONDITION TO PLACE ON IT IT BE THAT THEY USE THE HOOKS OF THE GUARDRAILS SO THAT IT IS LESS VISIBLE FROM THE STREET AND THAT IT DOESN'T BROACH THE PEAK RIDGE OF THE OF THE ROOF SO THAT IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM THE INTERNAL DEVELOPMENT AND AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE LESS HIDDEN.

GOOD SYSTEMS ARE CHALLENGING. WE'VE SEEN THEM ON A LOT OF BUILDINGS.

WE ARE DOING OUR VERY BEST TO ADDRESS THEM BUT TO ENSURE THAT THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO SERVICE IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COME ACROSS A LOT. SO SORRY I, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT MUST BE BACK PAGE BUT IT IS IN MY FINDINGS JUST NOT IN MY STAFF RECOMMENDATION SUMMARIES BECAUSE. I SUMMARIZE IT FOR YOU AND I DID IT POORLY THIS TIME GUYS I APOLOGIZE SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBT ON THAT BUT YEAH SO I'M I'M NOT COMPLETELY SURPRISED BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE PAST. THIS IS GOING TO SO OUR YEAH THE LADDER I HAD NOT HEARD BEFORE THAT'S A NEW ONE BUT THE PLATFORM WE WERE YOU SAW ON THE DETAILS WERE PREPARED TO DESIGN SOMETHING TRYING TO WORK WITH MECHANICAL AND YOU KNOW AS YOU MENTIONED TO POSSIBLY STACK THEM ALONG THE RIDGE SO THAT THE PLATFORM FLAT AND WE DEFINITELY LIKE THAT SCENARIO BETTER SO I THINK I THINK THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY AIM TO DO WE JUST NEED TO WORK WITH THE MECHANICAL ENGINEER TO REDESIGN LITTLE BIT THERE AND WE ALSO PREFER THE HOOKS I THINK THAT'S FINE I WAS YEAH YEAH. SO THE LADDER IS TRICKY SO I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT RIGHT NOW THE MAIN BUILDING I THINK I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT IT COMING FROM THE BALCONY TO ME THAT'S ALREADY A MECHANICAL BALCONY AND SERVICE AREA AND I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE VERY ODD ALL THE WAY FROM THE GROUND TO GET ALL THE WAY UP THERE SO I WOULD I WOULD HOPE FROM THE MECHANICAL BALCONY WOULD BE A GOOD TO LOCATE THAT LADDER ALONG THE BACK OF THE BUILDING THE CARRIAGE I DO NOT HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT AT THE MOMENT SO HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONSIDERATION TO PUTTING THE KITCHEN EXHAUST FANS ON THE

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GABLE END OF THE BUILDING RATHER THAN OUT OF THE SIDEWALL? YEAH, I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING A TEN FOOT CLEARANCE TO THE DOORS AND THE WINDOWS, CORRECT? YEAH. BETWEEN DOORS WINDOWS AND EACH OTHER.

THOSE TWO VENTS LIKE YEAH THERE'S POSITIONING ON THE MAIN BUILDING LIKE IN A CERTAIN LOCATION SO I CAN WORK WITH I KNOW ONE HAS TO GO ON THE ROOF BUT POSSIBLY ONE COULD GO OUT OF THE SIDE WALL BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO ELIMINATE THE DOOR IN THE WINDOW AND IT WOULD AND IT WOULD BE A MUCH MORE SIMPLE FACADE IF WE TO DO THAT AND MORE OF A HASSLE TO GET TO THAT MECHANICAL DECK. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD WORK WITH THE ENGINEER BUT LOOKING AROUND MOST OF THEM DO JUST COME OUT OF THE ROOF OUT OF THE GABLE ROOFS AND THE KITCHENS DOWNTOWN THAT HAVE TO BUT NOTICE UNTIL THIS PROJECT I HAD TO STUDY HOW'S EVERYBODY ELSE DOING IT AND THEY'RE ALL THERE AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW WE JUST DON'T NOTICE THEM ON A DAILY BASIS. THE RESTAURANT NEXT DOOR YOU CAN SEE IT POPPING UP OVER THE RIDGE. IT'S ON THE BACK HALF OF THE ROOF OF THE GABLE ROOF THAT RUNS PARALLEL WITH THE STREET. YOU CAN SEE THE HOOD POPPING UP RIGHT BEHIND IT AND IT'S BEEN AMENDED SPECIFIC AND IT'S BACK LEFT BACK CORNER. BUT IT'S A FACT OF LIFE WITH THE RESTAURANT AND THE BUSINESS. SO TRYING TO MERGE ALL THOSE THE THE PLATFORM IMAGES THAT YOU SHOW ARE ALL PLATFORMS RUNNING TO THE ROOF OR PERPENDICULAR TO THE ROOF? CORRECT. THOSE YOUR EXHAUST FANS ARE IN A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION THAN THIS BECAUSE STACKED YEAH YEAH. SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO GET THOSE SIDE BY SIDE. YEAH THAT'S WHAT I SAID I WOULD PREFER THEM SIDE BY AFTER THAT WAS SUGGESTED AND AFTER WE HAD TO RESEARCH THE PLATFORMS SO I JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH THE MECHANICAL ENGINEER AND MAKE SURE THAT HE CAN ALSO REARRANGE THE HOODS.

BUT YES WE LIKE THAT LOOK A LOT BETTER TO BASED ON MY ALARMINGLY FAST STUDY OF WIND SYSTEMS IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS OF MY LIFE BUT INTERNATIONAL CODE FOR THE BUILDING CODE IT'S VERY SPECIFICALLY THE OUTPUT IS THE ONE THAT LOOKS KIND OF LIKE A TRIANGLE THAT'S OUTSIDES BUT IT'S NOT REALLY THAT ONE HAS TO BE FIVE FEET AWAY FROM ANY OTHER SURFACE OF THE BUILDING OR THE OTHER HOOD. IT HAS TO BE TEN FEET AWAY UNLESS.

IT'S BEING DIRECTED IN THE VENTING IS BEING DIRECTED AWAY FROM THE OTHER HOOD SO IT COULD BE FIVE FEET APART WE WANT OUR MECHANICAL ENGINEER SAID TEN FEET APART UNLESS IT IS DIRECTED AWAY FROM THE OTHER ONE BECAUSE OF THE EXCEPTION IN AND IN THE SECTION THREE OR 6.5 ALARMINGLY HIGH AND THAT'S ANOTHER TO THE MECHANICAL ENGINEER BECAUSE WE PUSHED BACK A LOT ON ALREADY YOU CAN IMAGINE BECAUSE WE WERE SHOCKED AT THE SIZE OF THEM AND HE HAS A MANGLED AWAY AND HE INSISTS THEY NEED TO BE TEN FEET APART BUT I CAN BRING THAT UP WITH HIM AND ASK OUR MEETINGS WILL BE HAPPY WITH ME TOO. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. BUT YEAH NO WE AGREE BECAUSE THEN THAT WOULD CREATE A SHORTER PLATFORM BUT I DON'T KNOW SO I CAN I'LL IT WOULD BE NICE TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MINIMIZE THAT PLATFORM AND YOU KNOW WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO PAINTING DARK COLOR TO BLEND WITH WHATEVER WITH THE ROOF FINISH? DEFINITELY YEAH.

YEAH WE'RE PAINTING THE SAME AS THE ROOF AND POTENTIALLY MATCHING THE FLASHING THING COMING OUT. I KNOW YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY PAINT THOSE EXHAUST FANS BUT YOU CAN CONTROL THE COLOR OF THE FLASHING COMING OUT OF THE THE PENETRATION IN THE CURB. AT THE CURB? YEAH BUT YOU KNOW THE SIDEWALL MIGHT BE A SOLUTION YOU WOULD CONSIDER AT THE SMALLER CARRIAGE HOUSE STRUCTURE THAT WINDOW IS FIXED. IT WOULD LET YOU ACTUALLY MOVE THAT ONTO THAT SIDE ELEVATION AND I THINK I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS FEEL. I THINK I WOULD SUPPORT THAT IF IT REDUCED THE NEED FOR ALL OF THAT ARMATURE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THERE AND THE ROOF IT SOUNDS GOOD I DON'T THE MECHANICAL ENGINEER DID NOT LIKE PUTTING IT ON THE GABLE AND I'M LIKE I WAS I MEAN YOU'LL HAVE YOU'LL HAVE SEPARATION ISSUES OF THAT DOUBLE HUNG WINDOW REMAINS OPERABLE IF IT WAS I FEEL LIKE YOU HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE ROOF OVERHANG TO YOU CAN PROJECT THREE FEET OFF THE BUILDING BUT THE EXHAUST OKAY SO IT BECOMES GRAVITY RODS SO WOULD HAVE TO COME OFF THE BUILDING THREE FEET THE GRAVITY OF LIKE HALF OF THAT AT LEAST SO I JUST KNOW WHEN WE ON THE MAIN BUILDING WE KEPT TRYING TO GET HIM TO PUT ONE ON THE SIDE AND HE KEPT COMING UP WITH SMALLER ELEMENTS THAT WOULD FIT ON THE ROOF

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VERSUS THE SIDE THING WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO IT DID WORK SOMEWHAT.

UM YEAH. MECHANICAL IS A CHALLENGE I CAN YEAH I CAN ASK HIM IF IF THE BAKERY CAN COME OUT THE SIDE WOULD YOU ALL BE OKAY IF THAT TOP WINDOW DISAPPEARED THEN IT WAS THAT WAS JUST A WOULD YOU CONSIDER I I THINK THAT WINDOW'S NICE TO BREAK UP THAT SIGH WOULD YOU CONSIDER MAKING THAT LIKE A DIRECT SET. YEAH I THINK IT WAS IT'S NOT A OPERABLE PIECE OF GLASS. I THINK YOU ARE COVERED OKAY. OKAY.

YEAH. I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT. I JUST KNOW WHEN WE'VE SUGGESTED IT. IN THE PAST THERE HAVE BEEN LOTS OF CHALLENGES AND I BELIEVE THE OVERHANG WAS ONE OF THEM BUT I YOU'RE RIGHT LIKE IT WOULD JUST HAVE TO COME OFF THE BUILDING PRETTY FAR AS A BUT THAT WOULD BE DESIRABLE VERSUS I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF UP AT THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE NO MATTER WHAT. YEAH YOU KNOW IF GOT TO HAVE ONE PUT IN TWO IS NOT GOING TO BE THAT BIG A DEAL OTHER THAN MAKING THAT YEAH.

I MEAN I THINK ON THE LARGER STRUCTURE IT'S UP IN THE TREE LINE IT'S IN THE BACK AND IT AND WORK TO MINIMIZE IT THE SMALLER STRUCTURE IF THERE WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT NEED THE PLATFORM BECAUSE YOU COULD GET TO A SIDEWALL I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY I DON'T KNOW I SUPPORT THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS THINK IT WOULD IF A COULD FINAGLE IT TO GET IT TO NOT NEED THE PLATFORM THAT WOULD I THINK BE MY PREFERENCE EVEN IF IT'S ON THAT SIDE ELEVATION THAT FACES A PARKING LOT. I THINK MY OPINION IS I'D RATHER SEE IT COMING UP THE TOP THING ON THE SIDE NEXT TO THE WINDOW.

OKAY. THAT'S JUST IT JUST TO REMIND YOU OF BIG PICTURE ZOOM FROM SITE PLAN SO THE HOOD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE AT THE BAKERY AND THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THE PRIMARY BUILDING IS RIGHT HERE. SO IT IS IT'S DEFINITELY LIKE IN THE SITE VERY FILTERED HIDDEN BY THE GABLE SIDE. YOU KNOW YOU WON'T LIKE PUT IT IN TO THE SIDE AND ON THE LEFT YOU WON'T REALLY KNOW HAPPENING.

SO ANYWAY I KNOW THE THE ELEVATIONS THE PERSPECTIVES ARE VERY STARK WHEN THERE'S NO LANDSCAPE IN THERE SO I JUST WANT THROW THAT BACK TO THOSE PLATFORMS MAKE ANYTHING LIKE COVERS THEM THE LIKE DO THEY OFFER ANY PRODUCT THAT MAKES IT LESS NOTICEABLE I DON'T CABLE PEOPLE I REALLY IF IT'S THE ROOF COLOR IS ESSENTIALLY LIKE A YOU KNOW GRASS NO GRASS OR GHILLIE LIKE SOME OF IT LOOKS LIKE A TREE OR SOMETHING. THEY MAKE CELL PHONE TOWERS THAT LOOK LIKE TREES NOW. SO YEAH, YOU KNOW I HAVE NOT I MEAN IT'S A GOOD IDEA BUT OTHER THAN PAINTS NOBODY'S SUGGESTING ANYTHING MAINLY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KEEP THE AIRFLOW UP TO THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE HANDRAILS ON IT WHICH WILL REDUCE YEAH YOU LOOK AT IT IN A WHILE WHICH IS WHAT YOU'LL SEE FROM MAY RIVER ROAD LEANING TOWARDS THE MICROPHONE SO HOPEFULLY IT PICKS ME UP BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A RIVER ROAD YOU'LL ONLY SEE AN OWL ESSENTIALLY WITH PROBABLY A CROSS BRACKET. SO IT SHOULD IN THEORY BE MINIMAL TO LOOK ALMOST LIKE AN HANDRAIL BUT NOT NOT AS BULKY A PICTURE.

YEAH, BECAUSE THE PICTURE THAT YOU'RE SEEING IS SO ALL OF THAT SO YOU'LL HAVE THE PLATFORM AND WHAT'S BELOW IT AND THE PLATFORM WOULD BE PAINTED THE ROOF COLOR CORRECT THE PLATFORM AND ALL THE STRUCTURE CAN BE PAINTED OUR ROOF COLOR AND ALSO THE CURVES THE SQUARE BOXES THAT OCCUR UNDER THE THE EVENTS CAN ALSO BE PAINTED THE ROOF COLOR WE CANNOT THE ROOF ENDS THEMSELVES AND WE PROPOSE THE HOOK SYSTEM WHERE SOMEBODY CAN TIE THE ROOF AND SECURE WITH A HARNESS WE CAN ELIMINATE THESE HANDRAIL PIECES THAT YOU SEE THAT ARE PRETTY HIGH BUT AND THAT MAKES SENSE. I MEAN I THINK I WAS TRYING TO THINK WHAT YOU DO ARCHITECTURALLY HERE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A PLATFORM BUT IT'S PART OF THE ARCHITECTURE. I JUST I THINK THAT LIKE A DARK, DARK BRONZE LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST MINIMAL THING YOU COULD PUT UP ARE THE HANDRAILS RIGHT ANYMORE? IT'S A QUESTION. AND ANYBODY ELSE BOTHERED BY THE SQUARE MOUNTAINS AND IT JUST IT'S JUST OKAY. I MEAN I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU BUT THE CAN YOU PULL UP THE SCHEDULE JUST YOU SEE THE WINDOW LIGHTS NEXT TO THE YEAH WAS ALSO TRYING TO SHOW YOU WITHIN THE COMPOSITION OF THAT ELEVATION WE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WE WERE PRETTY THOUGHTFUL TRYING TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE WINDOW GRIDS THAT WE WERE SHOWING AND WHEN I DID EXPERIMENT WITH A FIVE A SIXTH WINDOW ACROSS, IT FELT VERY CLUTTERED AND IT WAS IT WAS TOO

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NARROW. I FELT LIKE IT WAS A LOT NARROWER THAN LIKE FOR INSTANCE THIS HUNG ABOVE IT AND WHAT I LIKED ABOUT IT WAS THE WAY THAT THIS TRANSOM AND THE DOUBLE HUNG LINES UP WITH THE GRIDS BELOW AND THE NICE TALL IT'S A26 TRANSOM.

IT'S A REALLY NICE PROPORTIONED TRANSOM I FELT LIKE THESE GOT PRETTY SQUARE AND SO I FELT LIKE THESE RELATED MORE TO THIS TRANSOM THAN WHEN I ADDED THAT SIXTH WINDOW ACROSS THE WAY GOES FAST. SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT IF IT HELPS CARRY THAT SENSE. THAT'S WHY WE KNOW THAT IT'S OVER AT LEAST IT RELATES TO THIS WINDOW. YEAH, IT JUST IT JUST JUMPED OUT AT ME.

THERE WERE RECTANGULAR AND NOT THIS WAY. NOT THIS WAY.

REMEMBER? THAT'S ONE THAT JUST LET IT BE TOO.

AND IT DID AND THAT IS OUR DEFAULT READ FINALLY PREFER MORE RECTILINEAR IT'S JUST THIS PARTICULAR SCENARIO IF I COULD SHOW YOU THE FRONT ELEVATION HERE SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS COMPOSITION WITH THE THREE ELEMENTS LIKE IT FELT A LOT BUSIER WHEN WE NEEDED TO ADD THE SIX MOLES ACROSS THE TOP OR THE SIX WINDOWS ACROSS THE TOP. BUT IF YOU REMOVE THE MIDDLE PIECE AND JUST LEAVE THEM REALLY LONG WELL AND THAT LET'S SEE IF WE LOOK AT THE PERSPECTIVE I MEAN THINK ABOUT THE ROOM ITSELF AND NOT JUST THE FLAT ELEVATION.

I FELT LIKE WHEN YOU TURN THE CORNER HERE THAT ALSO HAPPENS ON THE RIGHT AND I JUST FELT THEY RELATED A BIT CLOSER KNOW THAT LOOKS NICE TO EACH OTHER OTHER YEAH AND REMEMBERING THOSE THREE ELEMENTS ARE I FEEL LIKE THE THREE PIECES ARE A NICE TALL PROPORTION IT'S JUST YES WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THAT WINDOW GRID IT DID GET A LITTLE SQUARE THAT'S ALL IT IS.

MAYBE A RELATES PRETTY WELL TO EACH OTHER WE REALLY TAKE MAKING THAT WHOLE PICTURE WINDOW SMALLER TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN. ALL RIGHT TO MATCH THE DOOR YEAH IT'S IT'S NOT LIKE A DEALBREAKER. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT POPPED OUT AT ME. PRIVACY. I HAVE AN UNRELATED WINDOW QUESTION. SO WHAT YOU'RE CALLING THE GARDEN STRUCTURE THAT'S A WALK IN COOLER? YES. AND IT SEEMS TO BE KIND OF LIKE FRONT AND CENTER LIKE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS YOU'RE GOING TO WALK BY IT AND USUALLY LIKE BOTH SIDES COOLERS HAVE BIG VENTS THAT BLOW AIR ON AND THE WOULD THAT WOULD WOULD THAT BLOW TOWARD THE SIDEWALK OR TOWARD THE BACK? WELL, THIS PARTICULAR UNIT HAS THE MECHANICAL ON THE TOP OF IT. SO OUR GABLE IS DISGUISING THE AIR. SO THE ONLY ENDS OF THE GABLE THEY MIGHT BE ONE FOR THEM.

YEAH, I CAN'T QUITE YEAH. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.

THESE ENDS OF THIS ONE IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER THAT'S IF I'M STANDING ON THE SIDEWALK BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING RIGHT. YES.

YES. RIGHT. BUT ADVANCE OUT OF LIKE THE GABLE TO UNDERNEATH YES. THE TRIANGLE OF THE GABLE IS WHERE THE VENTING WOULD OCCUR FOR THE MANY IN SITTING AROUND WHERE PEOPLE ARE WALKING BY LIKE.

WELL IT WILL BE ON VOTE NO LET ME SHOW YOU IN PLAN HERE REAL QUICK.

I'M ALL RIGHT. SO IF YOU PICTURE THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE WALKING YES. AND THE GABLE RUNS LONG WAYS SO IT'S REALLY COMING OUT THE THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT OF THAT STRUCTURE. OKAY.

OH AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE WALK IN COOLER IS FACING THE BAKERY OR THE RESTAURANT THE ENTRANCE AND THIS IN THIS VIEW IS ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE WHICH IS TOWARDS THE OR THE YEAH THE THE DRIVE DROP OFF ZONE SO I'M ASSUMING MY COOLERS ARE LIKE FOUR MEATS AND WHY IS IT ATTACHED TO THE BAKERY NOT THE MAIN STRUCTURE. IS THERE A PRACTICAL REASON FOR THAT OR WE DIDN'T REALLY SEE IT AS ACTUALLY ATTACHED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE WHICH I GUESS I LOVE TO ZOOM IN RIGHT HERE. OH OKAY.

IS THERE ANOTHER WALK IN COOLER IN THE RESTAURANT? THERE IS NOT IT IS A RESTAURANT THE WALK IN COOLER THE BAKERY DOESN'T HAVE 100 MAYBE. ALL RIGHT.

SO IF YOU LOOK HERE THE BACK AND IT WAS IT WAS MORE ABOUT SITE LAYOUT THEN I KNOW IT APPEARS REALLY CLOSE TO THE BAKERY BUT THE BAKERY SERVICE STORE IS JUST OFF THE PAGE UP HERE TO THE TOP OF THE PAGE AND THERE PEDESTRIAN DOOR AND GUEST CUSTOMER DOOR IS HERE ON THE LEFT SO THE BACK KITCHEN DOOR HAS THIS PORCH AND THEN A PAVED AREA TO HAVE DELIVERIES COME

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CLOSE TO THE BACK DOOR OF THE KITCHEN AND. SO THIS OUTDOOR COOLER IS REALLY MORE IN THE SERVICE ZONE OF THE KITCHEN FOR THE MAIN BUILDING THEN THE BAKERY ZONE THAT'S KIND OF REALLY FURTHER UP ON THE SITE OKAY IT JUST JUST SEEMED ODD TO ME THAT IT WOULD SO RIGHT TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND NOT IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.

BUT IF THERE'S A I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE PURPOSE FOR THAT OF THAT WAS.

WE DO HAVE THAT UTILITY DITCH THAT WE'RE DEALING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND THERE CURRENTLY A VERY BIG DROP OFF RIGHT THERE THAT WE ARE INSTALLING A WALL IN ORDER TO STABILIZE THAT AND TO PROTECT THAT. SO IT KIND OF WORKED OUT A LITTLE BETTER TO NOT HAVE SOMETHING UP ON THAT RETAINING WALL.

SO IF SOMEBODY IS WALKING BY FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING THE VENTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ON PEOPLE. IT'LL BE ON THE SIDES AROUND THE GODDESS.

THANKS. YEAH. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THIS VIEW TOO I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF LANDSCAPING LANDSCAPING HAPPENING RIGHT HERE AND THE SIDEWALK IS OUT HERE SO IT WILL BE FILTERED TOO. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO IT AND THAT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER 15 FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK THE FIRST EDGE OF THE COOLER. HOWEVER, THIS TO ME THINKS ABOUT 15 OH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT PORCH THE. THAT REAR PORCH HAS THE MOP SINK IT.

YES. AND I DIDN'T REALLY SEE ANY OTHER SIGNIFICANT JANITORIAL STORAGE IN THE BUILDING. WELL, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT THAT PORCH WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SCREENING FROM THE PROPERTIES ON THE RIGHT AND ON THAT LEFT SIDE FROM THE SIDEWALK. OKAY. GIVEN THAT MAY END UP WITH ADDITIONAL STORAGE AND IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE THE KIND OF PLACE THAT COLLECTS THAT KIND OF STUFF AS A RESTAURANT IN FRONT YEAH WE KIND OF VIEWED THIS THAT WHOLE CORNER AS THE SERVICE SIDE OF THE RESTAURANT MEAN WE HAVE OUR MAIN SERVICE HERE LET ME GET BACK TO LET ME THANK YOU YEAH THIS WOULD BE FINE. ALL RIGHT.

SO OUR MAIN SERVICE YARD IS RIGHT HERE. ALSO HAVE OUR EGRESS STAIRS COMING WHICH RUN TO ALMOST SCREEN THE SIDE OF THAT PORCH AND COME DOWN TO THIS SERVICE KIND OF PAVED AREA. I DO HAVE SCREENS ON AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THIS PORCH AND KIND OF A TRELLIS THAT WE GOING TO WORK WITH LANDSCAPE TO RUN VINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO FROM THE PUBLIC ON OUR SITE BUT I, I GUESS WE COULD ADD IT OVER HERE BUT I DO FEEL THAT THE STAIRS GO PRETTY FAR TO SCREEN THAT RIGHT HERE AND THIS IS ALL RIGHT HERE'S SCREENS IT FROM THE FRONT YEAH IN THIS VIEW YOU'RE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THAT OTHER CHALLENGE THAT I WAS PROPOSING ON THE OTHER SIDE IS MAKING THAT OKAY IF YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT YEAH I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THIS CROSSING AT LEAST HERE SO THAT THAT FENCE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINES IS A 42 INCH FENCE WIDE FENCE ON TOP OF THAT WALL, CORRECT? YES, I AM SHOWING I'M HINTING AT THE WALL BUT I'M NOT SHOWING THE FENCE THAT I SHOULD JUST KIND OF LIKE THERE'S JUST BEEN GROWING UP THE TRAILER ON THE SIDE, CORRECT? YES, I THINK SO. THAT'S IT'S A VINE. I KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT LANDSCAPE IS GOING OUT THE RECORD THIS ALL AS IT YEAH YEAH IT MAYBE THAT GROWS VERY QUICKLY AND VERY THICK OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I HAD TO TWO SMALLER COMMENTS ONE THE DOOR ON THE IN THE CENTER OF THE PORCH ON THE RIGHT I GUESS THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT MAIN BUILDING IS JUST OFF OF BEING CENTERED ON THE WINDOW ABOVE IT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN GET ALIGNED AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST WRONG AND I KNOW WE LOOKING AT ELEVATIONS BUT IN REALITY WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING IT FROM A DIFFERENT VIEW .

LET'S SEE. WELL HERE YOU DON'T ACTUALLY SEE IT AT ALL BECAUSE OF THE SCREEN I GUESS THAT PART OF WHAT DETERMINE WHERE THE DOOR WAS WAS THE KITCHEN EQUIPMENT AND THE HOOD AND I CAN SHOW YOU IN FLORIDA WHAT THE LEFT ELEVATION THAT TO THE LEFT OF IT RIGHT HERE OH YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE REAR SIDE ELEVATION ELEVATION IS THE ELEVATION ON THIS PAGE AT THE BOTTOM THE ONE AT THE BOTTOM THE BOTTOM ONE THE DOOR IN THE

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CENTER OH WE'RE ABOVE IT'S A PLAN BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE ALIGNED AS WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THE DORMERS WERE IN A DIFFERENT PATTERN WHEN WE HAD THE EXTERIOR OVER THERE AND THAT'S TO BE CLOSE IF THERE'S SOMETHING I COULD TRY TO MAKE THAT GEM SMALLER AND JUST TRY TO GET THEM I COULD TRY I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT EIGHT INCHES OFF RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, I COULD TRY BUT RIGHT NOW . IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S CENTERED ON THE COLUMNS SO I WAS ONE OF THOSE KNOW THE DORMER THE DORMER PROBABLY RELATES TO THE COLUMNS BECAUSE THAT'S MORE OF A I LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THE COLUMNS ARE OUT IN FRONT AND DORMER IS GOING TO BE MORE VISIBLE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE COLUMNS THAN ANYTHING THAT'S ON THAT BACK. I CAN LOOK AT ALIGNING IT BUT IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT KITCHEN WALL KIND OF STARTS THERE. WHAT CAN YOU ADJUST WINDOW UPSTAIRS JUST A LITTLE BIT BOTH WELL THERE'S THERE'S A PRETTY REPETITIVE PATTERN GOING ON AT THE VERY TOP.

I HAVE ALL IT'S ALL EQUAL SPACING SO IF THAT ONE THIRD FROM THE LEFT MOVES HAVE TO RESTUDY THAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER TO MOVE THE DOOR IF THERE IS ABILITY TO MAKE THAT JAM THAT JAM THE LEFT SMALLER JUST EVEN IF THEY DON'T QUITE GET THAT YEAH.

IF THEY'RE CLOSER NO THAT'S FINE AND I KNOW FROM A DRAWING STANDPOINT WE'RE USED TO LOOKING IN ELEVATIONS BUT IN REALITY WE DON'T GENERALLY STAND STRAIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND SO IT MAY NOT BE AS OBVIOUS AS IT IS IN THAT ELEVATION.

I'LL TRY TO SCOOT IT OVER AND THEN COULD YOU RUN US THROUGH THE GUTTER, THE GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS ON THE FRONT PORCH. MM THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT MY OLD OLDER I SAW THEM ON THE ROOFLINE. YES I THINK THEY ARE MODELED ACTUALLY BUT THE MAIN MAINLY BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I GET THEM IN THE ROOF PLAN BUT THE ROOF PLANTS ARE MUCH EASIER PLACE TO LOOK AT THEM. SO YOU MEAN THE FRONT STRUCTURE ? YES. YEAH, JUST AROUND THE PORCH AND WHERE SO RIGHT NOW I HAVE A CONTINUOUS GUTTER RUNNING ALONG THE LOW ROOF, THE PORCH AND THAT'S MAINLY BECAUSE WHERE YOU'RE STEPPING OFF THE PORCH WE DO TRY TO PROVIDE GUTTER SYSTEMS AND THEN WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED A GUTTER ALONG THE THE BACKSIDE OR AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING IT'S THE RIGHT SIDE TOWARDS THE WATERSHED BUILDING. THAT'S MAINLY BECAUSE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CONTROL THE WATER ON THAT SIDE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EQUIPMENT IN THE SERVICE YARD. WE PEDESTRIANS EXITING ON THE TOP LEFT AND WE JUST DON'T WANT HUGE WATERFALLS COMING DOWN UNCONTROLLED. WE GOT TO THAT TO THAT GUTTER I MEAN TO THE CANAL OR WHAT AM I BUT WHAT AM I LOOKING FOR WHICH LOOKS AT THE PORCH ARE YOU USING RAIN CHAIN DOWNSPOUTS OR ARE YOU IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE KIND OF COMING BACK TO THOSE COLUMNS I HAD INTENDED TO DO REGULAR ENCLOSED DOWNSPOUTS BUT YEAH I DIDN'T MODEL THE DOWNSPOUTS BUT I HAD INTENDED THEM TO BE STANDARD BUT I HAVE A SUPER STRONG OPINION OF IT THEN I THINK IT CONTAINS THE WATER A LITTLE BETTER AND LESS SPLASHING ONTO THE COLUMNS BUT I THINK THAT'S FINE. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT GOT OUT HOW MANY OR OR WHERE IT ALL I NOT AND I HADN'T DONE THAT SO NO YEAH ALL I HAD MODELED WAS REALLY THE GUTTERS NOT THE DOWNSPOUTS SO I DIDN'T REALLY WORK OUT BUT I THINK YOU OUGHT TO KNOW WHERE THOSE DOWNSPOUTS WILL BE TOO AND OKAY CAN AND THAT IS THAT OKAY IF THAT'S SOMETHING REVIEWS OR DID THAT OR WAS THERE ANY PREFERENCE I GUESS OR I GUESS THEY NEED TO MATCH THE GUTTERS SO YEAH ROUND BECAUSE YOU'RE USING A HALF ROUND PRESSURE YES SO HOW PROUD OF YOU AROUND THAT WAS THAT.

YEAH WE CAN WORKED THE LOCATION I GUESS WAS THERE ANY ANY SPECIFIC I MEAN I WOULD IMAGINE YOU'RE BRINGING IT UP TO LIKE IS THERE SOMETHING YOU MEAN IT'S IT'S A ARCHITECTURAL THING THAT ENDS UP BEING SORT OF PROMINENT. OKAY I FEEL LIKE YOU SORT OF END UP WITH ONLY BEING ABLE TO DO ON THE CORNERS ON THE FRONT AND THEN MAYBE IN THE MIDDLE OR ON THE BACK CORNER. BUT I GUESS OF THE RAMPS AND THE STAIRS AND THINGS THERE, YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TOO MANY OF THEM. YES, I YEAH.

SO THAT RAMP THAT'S INTERRUPTING IT A LITTLE BIT I WAS THINKING I COULD PASS TO TAKE IT THROUGH THE RAMP AND UNDER IT I NEEDED I SEE WHERE YOU HAVE THE STILL THE BAND

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BOARD RUNNING IN THE CEILING THE MAIN BUILDING THAT WILL LOOK NICE OKAY GOOD GOOD I'M HAPPY YEAH I THINK I THINK THAT SOMEHOW YEAH THIS IS PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT SO YEAH THE PROPORTION OF THAT FEELS A LITTLE TALLER HAVING THAT LOWER LOOKING BUT YEAH I CAN SHOW THE THE DOWNSPOUTS AND IS THAT SOMETHING STAFF CAN REVIEW THEN .

OKAY I'M COMFORTABLE THAT YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY SO ARE WE READY FOR A HOLD UP? HAVE A MOTION WHAT THE THOUGHTS ARE HERE? YEAH. OH, MAYBE.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THAT WAY I CAN AT LEAST SEE IF I UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE'VE GOT OR WE'VE DISCUSSED SO FAR TO MAKE SURE.

OH, THAT'S REALLY BIG. SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE DISCUSSION IS THAT THAT WOULD BE THERE REVIEWED BY STAFF AT THE BASE. SO OF THE SECOND STORY WINDOW IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AND THEN THE COLUMN SPACING BE REVISED OR NOTED ON PLANS TO SHOW THEY ARE SPACED NO FURTHER APART THAN THEY ARE TALL WINDOW F IS PROPOSED AS A SLIDING WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS BEING ALLOWED TO OR IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? MM HMM. THAT'S THERE'S TWO OF THEM RIGHT? YES, BUT THEY'RE THERE IT'S ONE FIXED WINDOW ONE. SO THERE ARE TWO WINDOWS BUT THEY ARE TOGETHER ON DURING THE SAME LOCATION. IT'S NOT LIKE ON TWO SEPARATE ELEVATIONS UM DETERMINATION THAT THE TYPE OF WINDOW IS APPROPRIATE AT DUE TO THE USE AND PLACEMENT IN OUR INSIDE PATIENT THE SITE WHERE THAT WOULD STAND THIS WOULD STAND AND THEN THE LAST RIGHT THE TO ALIGN THE DOOR ON THE LEFT ELEVATION OR GET AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON FINAL PLACEMENT AND TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE HOOD SYSTEM PLACEMENT TO REMAIN ON THE REAR ELEVATION IN THE GABLE OR ON THE BACK PORTION OF THE ROOF WITH THE PLATFORM AND THEM WITH THE PLATFORM AND HOOK SYSTEM WITH THE PLATFORM MINIMIZED USING A HOOK SYSTEM AND PAINT AND PAINTED TO MATCH THE ROOF WITH FLASHING SASH CURVING TO MATCH THE ROOF AS WELL. SO I SUMMARIZE ALL OF GO IN THE DOWNSPOUTS TO BE SHOWN AND TO HAVE THE LADDER TO MINIMIZE LATERALLY WHERE POSSIBLE THEY CAPTURE EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT OR DISCUSSION? IF I HAVE CAPTURED TO MAKE YOUR LIFE EASIER IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT SOUNDED SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN ONE THROUGH NINE THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE AND MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF A DEFENSIBLE MOTION IF YOU'D LIKE TO USE THAT A THING AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ EVERY SINGLE ONE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FEEL FREE TO JOB WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ONE

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THROUGH NINE IS LISTED ON THE SCREEN DO WE HAVE A SECOND SECOND ALL IN FAVOR I MAY NINE OKAY GREAT THANK SO MUCH I AM GOING TO HIT SAVE ON THIS TO TO OF US THANK YOU ALL YOU ARE NOT EVEN WELCOME MR. CHAIRMAN THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

[IX.2. Certificate of Appropriateness- Demolition: A request by Ansley Hester Manuel, Architect, on behalf of the owner, Sara Harwell Kelly, for the review of a Certificate of Appropriateness - HD Demolition for the removal, in whole, of the existing 800 SF single-family residence and 120 SF shed located at 77 Bridge Street, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood Conservation -HD. (COFA-07-23-018245) (Staff - Katie Peterson)]

IT IS A REQUEST BY ANGELA EMANUEL ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER SARA KELLY SARAH HARWELL KELLY I'M SORRY FOR REVIEW OF CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE DEMOLITION THE REMOVAL IN HALL OF THE EXISTING 800 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND THE 120 SQUARE FOOT SHED LOCATED AT 77 BRIDGE STREET WHICH IS HERE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IT ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION HD THIS IS A NON CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE ERGO THIS IS A NON CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WHICH WAS BY THE CURRENT OWNER IN THE EIGHTIES AND BEING REQUESTED FOR DEMOLITION THE SHED WAS PLACED I WANT TO SAY 2016 ISH AND SO IT IS ALSO A NON HISTORIC CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE. THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE AS SHOWN HERE SO THIS IS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS MOSTLY RECTANGULAR STRUCTURE. IT DOES HAVE A SMALL BUMP OUT TO THE REAR HERE WHICH STEPS BACK THE SIDING IS T1 11 SIDING. SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY PERMITTED BY OUR ORDINANCE CURRENTLY AND THEN THIS IS THE SHED SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE SIDE THAT IS VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. MY PICTURES SORRY I SCREENSHOTTED THEM FROM THE ATTACHMENTS AND IT'S STILL ATTACHMENT WRITTEN THE FRONT THERE BUT THIS FACES IN TOWARDS THE PROPERTY AWAY THE PROPERTY THIS IS FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY AND IT FACES THE STREET THERE THERE SO THIS ONE IS MORE OF A THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. I HAVE IDENTIFIED ALL OF THE CRITERIA.

THERE ARE EIGHT REVIEW CRITERIA IN SECTION 318 THREE WHICH ARE APPLICABLE TO THIS.

HOWEVER AS A NON CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE SOME OF THE CRITERIA ARE NOT ACTUALLY APPLICABLE TO THE STRUCTURE AND I HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THOSE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

I AM HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE OR GO THROUGH ANY OF THOSE CRITERIA MORE SPECIFICALLY BUT STAFF HAS FOUND THAT IT DOES MEET THOSE CONDITIONS AND RECOMMENDS YOU ALL TAKE ACTION AS YOU SEE APPROPRIATE WITH RESPECT TO THIS APPLICATION WITH DEMOLITION APPLICATION STAFF TYPICALLY DOES NOT PROVIDE A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION BUT RATHER SAYS THAT IT IS UP TO YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DETERMINE THAT IT DOES MEET THOSE CRITERIA. I DID REACH OUT TO ALL FOUR OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSIONS I NOT RECEIVE WORD BACK FROM A CALL TO ACTION OR THE BLUFFTON BLACK HISTORY HISTORICAL PRESERVATION SOCIETY BUT I DID RECEIVE IT BACK FROM THE BLUFFTON NOTE B OPS WHICH IS NOW HBF HISTORIC BLUFFTON FOUNDATION AND FROM PALMETTO BLUFF CONSERVANCY.

NEITHER ONE OF THEM HAD ANY COMMENT OR ANYTHING TO ADD THE REQUEST BOTH RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION WHILE THEIR INFORMATION ONLY THAT INFORMATION IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO REACH OUT TO THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY KNOW WE DON'T KNOW IT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AND THAT IS WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF THE PROJECT. THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNERS ARE HERE TONIGHT. THE IF YOU'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO THEM FOR PROCESS POINTS YOU ARE WELCOME TO OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM AS THE APPLICANT WISH TO SPEAK TO THE PROJECT AT ALL. AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS COLLEAGUES FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS THEN THIS ONE SHOULD BE PRETTY QUICKLY. CAN WE GET A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURES A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR I PERFECT OKAY I

[IX.3. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Ansley Hester Manuel, Architect, on behalf of the owner, Sara Harwell Kelly, for the review of a Certificate of Appropriateness - HD for the construction of a new one-story single-family residential structure of approximately 1,710 SF and a new one-story Carriage House of approximately 705 SF to be located at 77 Bridge Street, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood Conservation -HD. (COFA-06-23-018189)(Staff - Katie Peterson)]

SHAMELESSLY THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS FOR 77 BRIDGE STREET.

THIS IS A LOCATION YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. IT'S GETTING THIS IS A REQUEST AGAIN BY AINSLIE ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER FOR A NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THE SAME LOT IF THAT DEMOLITION HAD BEEN DENIED THIS APPLICATION COULD NOT BE HEARD BECAUSE IT NOT MEET ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A BUILDING ON THE SITE SO THE ORDER OF THIS

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AGENDA IS INTENTIONAL. THAT IS OUR LESSON TONIGHT ANYWAY.

SO THE REQUEST IS FOR A NEW CONSTRUCTION THE ONE STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE OF APPROXIMATELY 1710 SQUARE FEET AND A NEW CARRIAGE HOUSE OF APPROXIMATELY 705 SQUARE FEET TO BE LOCATED AT 77 BRIDGE STREET. IT'S ALSO STILL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION ZONING. THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

SO YOU HAVE BRIDGE STREET AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN HERE YOU HAVE THE PARK THAT IS THE OAKS OVER HERE AND THEN THERE'S AN EASEMENT THAT ACCESSES TOWARDS THIS SITE BACK HERE WHICH IS THE IT'S OWNED BY GROUCHO HERE BUT IT WAS ONE THAT WAS SEEN BEFORE THIS SAME COMMISSION ABOUT A YEAR AGO MAYBE A LITTLE MORE A YEAR AGO. SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO KEEP THE DRIVEWAY IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION IS CURRENTLY A CIRCLE DRIVE SO YOU CAN SEE THE APRON HERE WHICH WILL JUST TURN A SMALL SIDEWALK LEADING UP TO THE FRONT PORCH OF THIS PRIMARY STRUCTURE. THERE'S A PORCH TO THE REAR HERE AND THEN THIS IS A ESSENTIALLY SERVICE AREA THAT HAS A ROOF OVER. SO IT'S SOME EXTERIOR STORAGE THAT IS ON THE SIDE THERE. THIS IS A PORCH FOR THE CARRIAGE HOUSE AND IT WILL BE USED AS A DWELLING SPACE. SO THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN ACTUALLY DOES HER HAND-DRAWN PLANS AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL SO YOU GUYS REALLY GET TO SEE THEM BECAUSE SHE USUALLY SENDS THEM OFF TO CAD BUT TODAY FOR US THANK ACTUALLY THEY'RE PRETTY THE WINDOW SCHEDULE IS ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT HERE SO I DID INCLUDE THAT PRIMARY STRUCTURE BRIDGE STREET WOULD BE ON THIS ELEVATION HERE THIS IS THAT SMALL LEAN TO SHADE THAT'S PART OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE HERE AND THEN THE ELEVATIONS. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BRIDGE STREET RUNS HERE SO THIS IS YOUR FRONT PORCH AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'LL BE AS YOU COME FROM TOWN HALL TOWARDS OYSTER FACTORY PARK YOU'LL COME ACROSS THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN THE REAR ELEVATION IS WHAT WILL BE OBVIOUSLY AT THE REAR. THE RIGHT ELEVATION IS WHAT FACE KIND OF TOWARDS THAT OPEN SPACE WHICH HAS THE OAKS IN IT NOW AND THEN THE SCREEN PORCH YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE AND THEN IS THE FRONT ELEVATION WHICH WILL FACE BRIDGE STREET FOR THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.