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ADDITIONALLY, WE RECOMMEND THAT IN 2027, COUNCIL CONSIDER THE ADDITION OF ANOTHER 1% TAX TO FUND CAPITAL PROJECTS.
DOES THAT PRETTY MUCH COVER WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING? I, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS A TECHNICAL AT THE END, WHEN YOU SAY IN 2027, THE COUNCIL CONSIDER THE ADDITION OF ANOTHER 1% TAX.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.
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WHY 2027? THAT'S NOT AN ELECTION YEAR.WELL, YOU HAVE TO START IN 27 IN ORDER TO GET IT READY FOR THE BALLOT IN 28.
I THOUGHT WE WOULD PUT ON THE BALLOT FOR 26.
I CAN, I MEAN, I, I, I USED IT ONLY BECAUSE IT SEEMED TO ME THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE US A, A YEAR.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THIS THING STARTED UNTIL, UM, WELL INTO 25.
AND I, MY, MY NOTION WOULD BE THAT I, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING SERIOUS HAPPENING ON THE GROUND WHEN WE GO FOR ANOTHER REFERENDUM.
THE OTHER THING IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT I THINK IS SOMETHING WE'VE, YOU KNOW, A HARD THING TO DISCUSS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED HERE, AND THAT IS, UM, WE NEED TO REESTABLISH A TRUST IN THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY LEADERSHIP RIGHT NOW.
AND I THINK THAT TIME WILL, THAT TIME WILL HELP DO THAT.
AND DO YOU REALLY, DO YOU REALLY WANNA PUT IT, PUT IT IN THIS MEMO TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THAT AT THIS POINT? OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST LET'S GO WITH THIS ONE AND YEAH.
NOT, WELL, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE CHARGE, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE CHARGE THAT WE GOT FROM COUNCIL, RIGHT? RIGHT.
IT, IT REALLY FOCUSED ON, ON THE CONCEPT OF THE SUPER PENNY.
AND EVERYBODY ASKS ME ABOUT IT SAYS, OH, YOU'RE NOT DOING THE SUPER PENNY.
YOU'RE NOT GOING, YOU KNOW, GOING FOR THREE, THREE PENNIES.
AND I SAID, NO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST FOCUSING ON TRANSPORTATION.
BUT MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT, MORRIS.
I JUST, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, THOUGH.
COUNCIL CAN MAKE, IF I'M READING THE WRONG COUNCIL, CAN MAKE THE DECISION.
WE'RE JUST RECOMMENDING, HERE'S WHAT YOU DO AND HERE'S WHAT YOU CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.
AND COUNCIL CAN SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THIS BECOMES A PUBLIC DOCUMENT DOCUMENT.
BECOMES TO THE EXTENT THAT IT PUTS THE 1% TRANSPORTATION, UH, QUESTION AT RISK.
UH, I WOULD FAVOR NOT REFERRING TO ANOTHER SALES TAX IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE.
UH, WE CAN COME BACK AFTER, UH, AFTER THE ELECTION OR AFTER THE QUESTION IS ANSWERED AND REVISIT IT.
BUT IF YOU THINK THIS PUTS THE, THE QUESTION OF THE 1% TRANSPORTATION OF RISK, I'D RECOMMEND NOT IT, NOT BE A PART OF IT, MAYBE WE COULD COUCH IT IN TERMS OF YOU TOLD US WE COULD DO THREE PENNIES.
WE THINK AT THIS TIME, FOR THE REASONS THE COUNTY NEEDS TO DEVELOP A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH ITS CONSTITUENTS THAT WE CHOSE TO DO ONE PENNY.
BUT WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF WE GET SOME PROJECTS ON THE GROUND TO GO FORWARD A SECOND PENNY SHOWING WHOEVER WOULD READ THIS.
THE CONCERN BEING DO WE LOOK BAD? DO WE LOOK LIKE MONEY GROWERS? ARE WE DOING THE WRONG THING? WE CAN DO IT.
I MEAN, WE CAN TAKE IT OUTTA HERE.
IN ON THE 11TH WHEN WE MEET WITH THEM.
IN OTHER WORDS, I CAN, IT CAN BE A VERBAL FOR ME, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE ABOUT, IT WOULDN'T BE
AND WE CAN, WE CAN COUCH IT IN.
WE FELT THAT THE TRANSFER, AND WE DO MM-HMM.
BUT WE UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE REVISITED.
WELL, DON'T YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT SOMEWHERE.
I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT IT ALSO MENTIONED IN THE SALES TAX ALTERNATIVES CONSIDER, SO MAYBE YOU TAKE IT OUT OF WHERE IT'S REFERENCED HERE AND YOU JUST MORE FULLY DESCRIBE IT IN THAT OTHER SECTION WHICH REITERATES WHAT YOU, CHARLIE AND YEAH.
WHAT I'VE SAID TODD JUST SAID, WHAT I'VE SAID IS, AFTER ANALYSIS AND CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION, WE SETTLED ON THE TRANSPORTATION TAX AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT TAX TO CONTAIN YOUIN.
I WOULD NOTE THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER THE ADDITION OF A CAPITAL PROJECTS 1% TAX IN THE FUTURE.
AND, BUT YOU MIGHT COULD ADD ONTO THE SENTENCE PER CAROL'S COMMENTS PER IN THE FUTURE ONE'S TRUST IS REGAINED OR, OR WHATEVER YOU, WHETHER YOU WANNA SAY, I LEAVE THAT OUT.
I DON'T WANNA SAY YOU, I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE SAYING, BUT YEAH.
BUT HOW ABOUT THIS, YOU PUT US, YOU CHARGED US WITH LOOKING AT THREE PENNIES.
WE'RE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH ONE PENNY.
IF SOMEONE'S READING THAT THEY'RE SEEING THAT WE'RE WATCHING OUT FOR THE PUBLIC, BY NOT OVERTAXING THEM, WE COULD DO A LOT MORE.
WE COULD HAVE RECOMMENDED THREE PENNIES, BUT WE DIDN'T, WE'RE TRYING TO, TO REALLY DEFINE HARD WHAT THE ONE PENNY'S GONNA DO.
SO I, I THINK I'D START OFF WITH WE HAVE THE OPTION TO DO THREE.
WE'RE ONLY CHOOSING ONE RIGHT THERE.
YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE SAYING, OH, THEY'RE CONSERVATIVE, THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS.
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WHAT IT SAYS IS, COUNTY COUNCIL HEREBY ESTABLISHES A TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO PLAN AND PREPARE FOR POTENTIAL SALES TAX REFERENDA.SO IT'S PLURAL, UH, IN NOVEMBER, 2024 THAT ADDRESSED INVESTMENTS IN OUR ROADS, OUR BUILDINGS, AND OUR SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE CHANGE THAT, THAT WAS A REFERENDA.
IN OTHER WORDS, CONCEIVABLY TWO REFERENDUMS. MM-HMM.
AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS DON'T DO TWO REFERENDUMS. DON'T, DON'T DO REFERENDA.
DO ONE REFERENDUM ON TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS OUR RECOMMENDATION.
BUT I I I, I MEAN, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE TAKING THAT LAST SENTENCE OUT.
IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I DO AGREE, LIKE JARED WAS SAYING, DEEPER INTO THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE THAT WAY WE DID ADDRESS IT.
THAT'S 0.5 WHERE IT'S READDRESSED.
BUT NOW ADDRESSED, WE'LL TAKE IT OUT OF THE SUMMARY.
I JUST WENT OVER THE CHARGE TO THE COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS BASICALLY, UH, PROVIDE COUNSEL WITH INFORMATION THAT IDENTIFIES THE NEED AND WHERE REQUIRED THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS FOR THE VARIOUS REFERENDUM QUESTIONS, UH, WENT THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS AND THEN WE DISCUSSED, UM, THE WAY I PHRASED THIS, WE WERE INITIALLY PRESENTED WITH THREE SEPARATE SALES TAX OPTIONS BASED ON THREE SEPARATE STATE STATUTES.
ONE FOR TRANSPORTATION, ONE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, ONE FOR EDUCATION.
TWO OF THE MEETINGS WERE DEVOTED TO EVALUATING, DISCUSSING THESE AND THE OPPORTUNITIES EACH PRESENTED.
WE WANT THE EDUCATION REFERENDUM CAREFULLY WITH THE THOUGHT THAT SHOULD IT NOT PASS A SALES TAX MIGHT BE NEEDED TO RAISE THE FUNDS REQUIRED FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
IT DID PASS AND WE TURNED OUR ATTENTION TO TRANSPORTATION TAX AND CAPITAL PROJECTS BOTH OFFER SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITIES SINCE A VERY SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THE TAXES COLLECTED FOR EITHER ONE WILL BE PAID BY VISITORS TO THE COUNTY AND RESIDENTS OF ADJACENT COUNTIES.
AFTER ANALYSIS AND CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION, WE SETTLED ON THE TRANSPORTATION TAX ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT TAX ARE CONTAINED HEREIN.
I WOULD NOTE THAT WE RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE ADDITION OF A CAPITAL PROJECTS TAX.
ARE YOU GONNA KEEP IT IN THERE? YEAH, THAT'S, KEEP IT IN THERE.
I'M JUST GONNA SAY IN THE FUTURE, UM, LITTLE PARAGRAPH HERE, PRAISING THE STAFF TO GO BACK THEN TO NUMBER TWO.
WELL, WHAT I SAID IS THE EARLIEST, UH, BEGINNING THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO SALE, CONSIDER A 1% SALES TAX IN BEAUFORT COUNTY BEGINNING IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND EXTENDING FOR 15 YEARS.
SO WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, BASED UPON THE BALLOT IN 2024 YEAH.
ON THE BALLOT IN 2024, WE CAN SAY THAT.
AND, AND THAT JUST REITERATED THE CHARGE THAT THE COUNCIL SAID, THEY ALREADY SAID 24 MM-HMM.
AND THEY SAID, LOOK AT ONE, TWO, OR THREE.
AND I HAVE, UH, BACK TO 0.5 FOR A MINUTE.
UM, IT MAY BE A LITTLE CONFUSING TO SOMEBODY READING THIS WHERE, UM, LET'S SEE, PRESENTED WITH THREE SEPARATE SALES TAX OPTIONS BASED ON ONE FOR TRANSPORTATION, ONE FOR CAPITAL, ONE FOR EDUCATION.
THEN WE GO ON TO SAY WE WATCHED THE EDUCATION REFERENDUM.
SHOULD THAT NOTE THE NOVEMBER, 2023 EDUCATION REFERENDUM OR SOMETHING TO THAT, YOU KNOW, PUT THE TIMEFRAME ON IT BECAUSE SOMEBODY READING THROUGH THAT QUICKLY.
EDUCATION, TAX EDUCATION REFERENDUM, THEY MIGHT CONFUSE THE TWO, IS WHAT I'M THINKING.
WE LAUNCHED THE 2023 EDUCATION REFERENDUM CAREFULLY RECENTLY, LIKE THE PAST OR EDUCATION BOND REFERENDUM.
I'M JUST SAYING WE MIGHT WANNA FURTHER CLARIFY.
IT'S, IT IS CLEAR HERE, BUT THIS IS MOMENT IN TIME.
SOMEBODY READS IT IN SIX MONTHS.
I DON'T NEED TO GET TOO, TOO WORDSMITHY HERE, BUT NUMBER ALREADY WENT THERE.
ALL THE COMMITTEE WAS INITIALLY PRESENTED WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK 3 CENTS AND REFERENDUMS. YOU KNOW, IS THAT WHAT THEY, WE WERE OFFERED IS WERE WE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO TWO OR THREE? WE WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THEM ANY DAMN THING WE WANTED.
WE COULD HAVE DONE A 10TH OF A PENNY.
AND WE COULD HAVE DONE THREE OF 'EM AT A 10TH OF A PENNY EACH.
I MEAN, WE, WE CAN BRING 'EM ANY MIXTURE OF ANYTHING WE WANTED.
I SORT OF WANNA PUT THAT IN THIS THING THAT, LOOK, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECOMMEND ANYTHING
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AND WE'RE ONLY RECOMMENDING A PENNY.BUT THEY KNEW THAT BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF WHAT THEY CHARGED US.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO THROW IT BACK OUT.
I PUT A LITTLE THING IN THERE TO TELL HOW WONDERFUL THE STAFF WAS.
I MEAN, WE DIDN'T GET DONUTS, RIGHT?
AND WE ONLY MET AND BLUFF THEM ONCE.
STAFF SUPPORT WAS OUTSTANDING.
UH, TWO TYPES OF PROJECT EXPENDITURES, BIG PROJECTS.
UM, AND, UM, COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THAT NINE OF THE PROJECTS BE INCLUDED IN THE REFERENDUM.
EITHER COUNTYWIDE ADDRESS PROBLEMS, BOTH ON THE FEDERALLY DESIGNATED HIGHWAYS, STATE, COUNTY, AND LOCAL ROADS AND STROKES.
UH, 260 MILLION FOR PROJECTS SOUTH OF THE BROAD RIVER.
135 MILLION RECOMMENDED FOR PROJECTS NORTH OF THE BARB RIVER.
205 MILLION IS RECOMMENDED FOR FUTURE QUOTE BIG PROJECTS AND 50 MILLION FOR AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS.
I WOULD SUGGEST WE CHANGE IT TO 255 MILLION IS RECOMMENDED FOR FUTURE B***H PROJECTS.
50 MILLION OF WHICH WILL BE FOR AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS IF THE LEGISLATURE APPROVES.
'CAUSE IT, IT COULD BE READ HERE, YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THE 50 MILLION WOULD GO AWAY, BUT WE'RE SHOWING THAT AS A SPECIFIC PROJECT IN THE LIST.
WELL, I THINK WHAT CHARLIE SAYING IS, UM, IT GOES, IT DEFER BACK.
IF IT GOES BACK, IT STAYS AS A BIG PROJECT.
UM, IT DOESN'T GO INTO THE PROGRAM PROJECT THAT 50 MILLION.
I MEAN, SO YOU WOULD SAY GO TO 2 55 AND TAKE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS OUT THE BIG PROJECT LIST.
I WOULD SAY, WELL, I SEE, YEAH.
BIG PROJECT LIST, I GUESS WOULD BECOME A SUB OF FUTURE PROJECTS IN THE NEXT PAGE TO WHERE IT SAYS IF APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE.
I'M JUST, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THE WAY THIS READS IS THAT 50 MILLION COULD GO AWAY.
POTENTIALLY CAN, THE DOLLARS WOULDN'T GO AWAY.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY THIS LOOKS.
WELL, AND IT SAYS, AND 50 MILLION FOR AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS.
IF THE LEGISLATURE APPROVES AND RECOMMENDS CHANGES TO THE STATUTE, WELL IF IT DOESN'T RECOMMEND IT GOES DOWN, WHERE DOES THAT 50 MILLION GO? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY GOES INTO BIG PROJECT.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO, FOR LATER, WE NEED TO PUT THAT AS EITHER AN ADDITIONAL SENTENCE HERE OR YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? NOT APPROVED.
IF, IF SUCH, IF, IF, IF, IF THE LEGISLATURE DOES NOT TAKE ACTION, THE 50 MILLION WOULD FALL INTO THE FUTURE PROJECTS CATEGORY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS WHAT I'M THINKING.
ALRIGHT, DEAN, I WANT TO, I WANT TO, I WANT TO DISCUSS THAT AIRPORT MONEY AGAIN.
AND, UM, CERTAINLY THINK ROCK.
PART OF THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE WITH IT BEING JUST A TAG ON TO, TO THE REFERENDUM IS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO PUT $50 MILLION IN AN AIRPORT THAT IS BASICALLY A PRIVATE AIRPORT OR LIMITED USE.
YOU MEAN THE NORTH OF THE BROAD AIRPORT? YES.
THAT'S A, I MEAN, THAT'S A HELL OF A LOT OF MONEY.
WELL, I, I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING THAT'S GOING ON THERE.
UM, SO WE HAVE A, A SHORT RUNWAY DO A LIST OF THAT WE, WE HEARD YEAH.
SO THERE'S NOT INTENT TO LENGTH IN THE RUNWAY, BUT IT, THERE IS A, A, A NOTICE NOTIFICATION FROM FAA THAT YOU NEED TO PROTECT, YOU ENHANCE YOUR RUNWAY SAFETY AREAS, FILL IN THE MARSH.
150 FEET IS STILL GRASS, BUT THAT'S JUST PART OF IT.
UM, OR YOUR RUNWAY WILL BE SHORTENED AUTOMATICALLY IF IT SHORTENS AUTOMATICALLY.
UM, THEN IT'S SEVERELY EVEN LESS THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY.
IT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT THE SAME SIZE AS AS HILTON HEAD, BUT IT SHRINKS AND ALMOST GOES AWAY COMPLETELY.
WELL, AND I HAVE A HARD I HAVE A HARD TIME BEING SAD ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, I, I'M CONFLICTED BECAUSE I WANT, I WANT THE MONEY FOR NORTH OF BROAD.
'CAUSE I'M HERE REPRESENTING NORTH BROAD, HOWEVER, FILLING IN A BUNCH OF MARSH SO THAT A FEW PEOPLE CAN HAVE A PLANE.
THAT, THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO ME.
UM, I WOULD RATHER PUT THE MONEY INTO THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT ONLY BECAUSE THERE IS A CHANCE THAT WE WILL ALL BE USING THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT.
NONE OF US ARE USING THE AIRPORT THAT'S BASICALLY PRIVATE.
WHAT IS OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTY MANAGERS THIS, THEY HAVE THE, UM, UH, THEY HAVE AN FBO THERE, UH, AND RENTALS OF, YOU KNOW, PARKING SPACES, LEASE SPACE.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE INCOME ON THAT? SO THAT, SO BOTH
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IS THAT INCOME WILL GO AWAY.SO WHAT HAPPENS, BOTH AIRPORTS ARE INDEPENDENT OF ONE ANOTHER.
HOW THEY'RE SET UP TODAY, AND THEY'RE TOTALLY FUNCTION OFF REVENUE PRODUCED BY THE AIRPORT.
THEY'RE NOT TAX SUBSIDIZED PROPERTY TAX SUBSIDIZED CATTLE.
UM, SO YEAH, THE, THE T HANGERS THAT FILL UP AT BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE IS WHAT PAYS AND THE GAS.
THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT SUPPORT THAT BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT.
UM, THERE'S A LIST OF 50, AND THIS COULD BE ANOTHER PROJECT.
THERE'S A LIST OF 50 PLUS PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE WAITING LIST FOR A HANGAR TO BE BUILT AS SOON AS IT'S BUILT.
THEY WOULD HOUSE THEIR AIRPLANE THERE, WHICH AGAIN, COULD BE MORE PROPERTY TAX RAISED, UM, 6% PROPERTY TAX TOWARDS THE COUNTY FOR SOMEBODY HOUSING THERE PLAYING THERE THAT MAY BE HOUSED ELSEWHERE.
BUT WHY THE COUNTY HAS INCOME FROM THOSE HANGERS.
THE COUNTY GETS THE INCOME THAT'S, THAT INCOME WILL GO AWAY IF THE RUNWAY ENDS UP SHORT.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT I'M WONDERING PORTION, THE PORTION OF THAT RUN.
IF SOMEBODY CAN NO LONGER FLY INTO THAT RUNWAY AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY STORING THEIR PLANE AT THE HANGAR THERE, UH, THEY WOULD NEED TO FIND ANOTHER AIRPORT THAT SATISFIES THEIR RUNWAY LINKS IN ORDER TO HOUSE THEIR AIRPLANE.
SO ALL, ALL I'M SAYING IN THIS CONVERSATION IS THERE IS A REVENUE COMING INTO THAT AIRPORT, THIS 50 MILLION MIGHT PROTECT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
I'M NOT SAYING WE KNOW THAT NUMBER REVENUE.
HOW MUCH REVENUE IS IT IF OVER A 10 YEAR SPAN THAT EQUALS IT? BUT YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE'S A WAITING LIST ALREADY RIGHT NOW WITH THE RUNWAY THE WAY IT IS, THERE'S A WAITING LIST RIGHT NOW.
SO, AND YOU'RE, AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THERE'S SUCH A WAITING LIST THAT WE'RE BUILDING MORE HANGERS.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE THAT INTERESTED IN THAT AIRPORT, LET THEM PAY FOR FILLING IN THE MARSH.
NOW, HILTON HEAD, TOTALLY DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.
THIS WHOLE 50 MILLION CAN GO TO HILTON HEAD AIRPORT IS FINE WITH ME BECAUSE THAT PEOPLE IN THE NORTHERN BUFORT COUNTY WILL DRIVE TO HELP HEAD TO FLY DOWN TO, TO WHEREVER THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR TRACK OR THE, OR THE OTHER, OR, OR TAKE THE 50 MILLION, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GREEN SPACE BECAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S A SKELETON IN THE CLOSET STILL.
BECAUSE IF THE SENATOR BRINGS BACK THE GREEN SPACE OF REFERENDUM, AND IT'S GOING TO PUSH THIS AWAY AGAIN.
I THINK I JUST TALKED TO THE SENATOR.
AND WHAT, WHAT TOLD HIM WHAT WE WERE DOING AND HE DID NOT SAY HE'S GONNA BRING IT BACK.
HE DID NOT SAY HE WAS GONNA BRING ANYTHING BACK, BUT HE DIDN'T SAY HE WASN'T GONNA BRING, HE SAID, HE SAID, I SAID, THIS THING IS GONNA, UM, IF THE RATE MONEY'S COMING IN, YOU'RE GONNA REACH YOUR A HUNDRED MILLION WELL BEFORE TWO YEARS.
BUT HE'S, BUT HE DID NOT SAY THAT HE WAS.
AND WE DO HAVE 80 MILLION IN THIS FOR GREEN BELTS ALREADY.
80 TO 8 MILLION, NOT 80, 80, 88 0.
WELL, I, UM, I AM, YOU KNOW, I I I, I'M, I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE 50 MILLION, BUT AT THE AIRPORT, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO, WHAT'S A SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO AIRPORTS? THERE, THERE IS NO SPLIT IDENTIFIED IN THAT 50.
UM, SO AT HILTON HEAD AIRPORT, WE HAVE A $72 MILLION TERMINAL EXPANSION, OF WHICH WE'RE ONLY AWARDED PHASE ONE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS.
SO ABOUT $30 MILLION OF THAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED NOW.
SO WE STILL HAVE A $45 MILLION DELTA THERE.
BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE A, UH, TAXIWAY REHAB, UM, ON THE BOOKS.
AND THEN WE HAVE A RUNWAY, UH, REHAB THAT'S REQUIRED ON HILTON HEAD IS WHERE PARTIAL PART OF THAT'LL BE FAA FUNDED.
BUT THERE'S PART OF THAT THAT'LL BE LOCALLY FUNDED, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS FOR THOSE PROJECTS EITHER.
CAN WE SAVE IMPROVEMENTS TO HILTON HEAD AIRPORT? IT SAYS BOTH BEAUFORD COUNTY AIRPORTS.
DO YOU WANNA SHACKLE IT THOUGH? HOW ABOUT THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT HANDLES THIS AFTER IT'S PASSED SHOULD BE STRUGGLING WITH THAT? IN MY OPINION, I COULD, I COULD BE WRONG.
DO YOU KNOW THE COST OF THE 150 FOOT EXPANSION? SO THE COST OF THE, IT'S BOTH THE WETLAND MITIGATION CREDITS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PURCHASED AND THE COST OF THE EXPANSION IS ABOUT $6 MILLION.
UM, CURRENTLY, TO YOUR QUESTION, HOW MUCH REVENUE? IT'S ABOUT A $2 MILLION BUDGET AT BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE.
AND THEY HAVE ABOUT THAT MUCH LEFT OVER AFTER EXPENSES ARE DONE.
SO THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FUNDING TO, TO CONSTRUCT UT HANGERS TO SATISFY THE 50, UM, AIRPLANES THAT WANT TO PART THERE AND UTILIZE THE AIRPORT.
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50 MILLION PART OF THAT COULD BE ALLOCATED FOR THAT.BECAUSE ALSO T HANG HANGERS, UM, ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR FAA FUNDING.
UH, THE SAME AS, SO FAA FUNDING IS FOR AIRPORT ACTIVITIES, UH, NOT REVENUE PRODUCING ACTIVITIES.
NOW YOU CAN DO SITE WORK WITH SOME FUNDS, BUT NOT THE BUILDING.
SAME WITH HILTON HEAD PARKING.
UM, AS THAT AIRPORT, GROSS PARKING WILL CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE.
A PARKING GARAGE, IF THAT IS CONTEMPLATED, IS NOT FAA ELIGIBLE.
THIS COULD BE PUT TOWARDS THAT AND AGAIN, BE A REVENUE PRODUCING ASSET FOR THAT AIRPORT.
THIS IS WHERE THE 50 MILLION WOULD EXACTLY GO TO, BUT THOSE ARE THE NATURE OF THE PROJECTS.
IS THERE MORE DETAIL? I WOULD SAY, UM, IT WOULD BE SIMILAR DETAIL TO WHAT WE WOULD, IF WE WANTED TO DEFINE IT LIKE WE DID THE PROGRAM PROJECTS, PROJECTS LIKE A, B, C, D.
YOU GOTTA KEEP IN MIND IT'S ON THE BALLOT.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE THINK ABOUT, THINK ABOUT THE YEAH.
THE BALLOT'S GONNA BE, THINK ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD REFERENDUM DETAIL.
THEY PRETTY MUCH BROKE THAT DEBT DOWN BY SCHOOL AND BY FFE.
WELL, I DON'T WANNA GET, I DON'T WANNA STOP THE STICK OF THE SPOKES.
I JUST HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH YOU.
$6 MILLION IS UNACCEPTABLE TO ME, BUT I'M GONNA GO ALONG WITH A BIGGER PACKAGE.
I, I'M WILLING TO COMPROMISE IN THIS.
AND IF WE NEED TO MOVE ON, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I'D PREFER TO SEE IT SAY HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT.
BUT LIKE I SAID IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS, I'M NOT GONNA HOLD THIS UP FOR THAT ONE THING.
WHEN MORGAN AND I MET WITH JOSH, UH, AND HE LOOKED AT THIS AND HE THOUGHT THE ISSUE OF FILLING IN THE MARSH MIGHT BE A POISON PILL WITH CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS.
SO YOU GOT AN ANSWER FOR THAT WHEN THEY, UH, CONFRONT YOU.
SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST PROJECTS OF THIS NATURE FROM HERE TO HERE.
I'M NOT SAYING IT IS THIS PROJECT OR IT IS THAT PROJECT.
UM, IF IF IT NEEDS TO BE MORE FULLY IDENTIFIED, THEN THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT FURTHER.
NOT SO MUCH JUST WHAT JARED THINKS.
I THINK IT'S THE PUBLIC SELLING.
WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO SEND SOMETHING OUT THAT THE PUBLIC IS GOING BY AND THAT'S GONE NOT, UM, UM, NOT BE THE ONE PILL THAT KILLS THE WHOLE, I MEAN, I'VE LIVED HERE 25 YEARS AND DRIVEN PAST THAT AIRPORT.
I'VE NEVER ONCE TAKEN OFF FROM THAT AIRPORT ONE TIME.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, I'M, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT, I MEAN, USED TO VOTE THERE, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, SO YOU HAVE USED IT
SO I THINK, I THINK GENERAL PROJECTS, AND I THINK WHAT JARED HAS DONE, AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, 'CAUSE I'M PUTTING WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH NOW, IS HE'S GIVEN US AN IDEA OF WHAT THE MONEY COULD BE SPENT ON IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MAKE A COMMITTEE TO GO THROUGH WHAT PROJECTS IT'LL BE SPENT ON.
IT DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL BE SPENT ON, BUT IT'S A POSSIBILITY.
BUT IF WE PUT THIS ON, I WOULD PUT IT IN THERE
IF WE PUT THIS ON THE, ON THE REFERENDUM, IT HAS TO BE SPENT IN SOME FORM OR THE OTHER.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK COUNCIL IS GOING TO LOOK ALSO FOR OUR INPUT AS A COMMITTEE.
UM, THAT HAS DONE SOME GROUNDWORK AS FAR AS COMING UP WITH THESE PROJECTS.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK WE SHOULD LET BEAUFORT COUNTY, UH, EXECUTIVE AIRPORT PAY FOR ITSELF.
AND I THINK THAT THE 50 MILLION OR WHATEVER SHOULD GO STRAIGHT TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT, WHERE WE ALL PARTICIPATE AND USE THAT AIRPORT.
IF WE DON'T PUT AIRPORTS ON HERE AND WE PUT BIG, BIG PROJECTS BACK UP TO 2 55, CAN SOME OF THAT MONEY BE SPENT ON AN AIRPORT? YEAH.
SO IF THEY PASS IT IN THE LEGISLATURE, THE LEGISLATIVE APPROVAL.
SO THE 2 55, IF YOU DID IT THAT WAY, THIS IS MY THOUGHT ON THE 2 0 5 AS IT STANDS TODAY.
UM, THAT AT, WE'VE GOT 15 YEARS.
SO THERE MIGHT BE A WHOLE NEW COUNCIL MIGHT BE A WHOLE NEW, UM, COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY
BUT THE COUNCIL WOULD BE THE ONE, JUST LIKE THE PROGRAM PROJECTS THAT WOULD HAVE TO AUTHORIZE THAT EXPENSE AT A FUTURE DATE OF WHAT THAT FUTURE BIG PROJECT WOULD BE.
SO IF IT WAS AIRPORTS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO AUTHORIZE IT.
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YOU'RE SETTING UP AND WHAT THE TAX QUESTION OR WHAT THE VALID QUESTION'S GOING TO READ IS, YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING BIG PROJECTS LIKE THIS.SO AS LONG AS A PROJECT THAT'S SELECTED BY COUNSEL IS IN THAT, I WOULD THINK, I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S REASONABLE.
THAT THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE QUESTION.
SO, UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, CHARLIE, THAT'S A PLAUSIBLE.
I JUST WONDER IF WE REMOVE, JUST TAKE THAT THING OUT, PUT THE DOLLARS INTO THE, AND IT CAN STILL BE SPENT ON AIRPORTS.
RIGHT? IT MAY IF IT CAN GET RID OF THE ISSUES.
SO IT CAN STILL BE SPENT THAT WAY.
TWO FIVE TO GO BACK TO THE, BACK TO THE PARAGRAPH I'M WORKING ON HERE.
UM, WE SIMPLY TAKE, UM, WE TAKE THE 50 MILLION FOR THE AIRPORTS OUT AND 50 MILLION FOR AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS.
IF THE LEGISLATURE APPROVES THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES STATUTE AND WE UP THE, WE UP THE, UM, THE FUTURE PROJECTS BIG FUTURE BIG PROJECTS TO 2 55.
SO THE SENTENCE WILL BE $255 MILLION IS RECOMMENDED FOR FUTURE BIG PROJECTS IN IN QUOTES.
AND THEN IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE NONE OF THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED OR BID AND THE AMOUNTS ASSIGNED TO THEM DO NOT REPRESENT PROJECT PROJECT.
IS THAT TRUE THOUGH? AREN'T WE DESIGNING SOME PROJECTS FULLY DESIGNED FULLY IN THERE'S FULLY DESIGNED, YEAH.
THE OTHER ONE, DEAN, THAT I THINK THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT WILL HELP IS THE HILTON HEAD.
IS THAT HILTON HEAD? THE HILTON HEAD 40 UHHUH 40 MILLION.
WE'RE NOT TO THAT SECTION YET THOUGH.
LET ME, LET ME, YOU WANNA FINISH? I WANNA MOVE THROUGH, I WANNA MOVE THAT PARAGRAPH RIGHT HERE.
SO I THINK WE'RE OKAY ON THE BIG PROJECT PARAGRAPH.
AND THEN WE GO THIS, THE PROJECT PROGRAMS, THIS ENCOMPASSES A LARGE VARIETY OF PROJECTS, WHICH BECAUSE THEY ARE SMALL DAVID DIRT ROAD OR BECAUSE THEY MAY EMERGE IN THE FUTURE, CANNOT BE SPECIFICALLY DEFINED.
THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE AND WILL BE UNDENIABLY REQUIRED, BUT WHICH CANNOT YET BE DEFINED AND MAY COST ONLY A FRACTION OF A BIG PROJECT.
THEY WOULD ADDRESS NEEDS THAT WILL EMERGE ALL OVER THE COUNTY IN RESPONSE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO COASTAL FLOODING, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN RURAL AREAS OF NEED TO RESURFACE EX EX EXISTING STREETS.
THAT'S A, THERE'S A TYPO THERE.
UH, SPENT CORRECTLY, THESE FUNDS WILL BENEFIT RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS PUTTING APPROXIMATELY ONE HALF 895 MILLION OF THE TOTAL EXPENDED REVENUES INTO THESE CATEGORIES OF PROJECTS AS DESCRIBED BELOW.
UH, ONE DEPEND ON THE DOLLAR 1% FOR A PERIOD 15 YEARS, WE ASSUME A MODERATE TO HIGH GROWTH RATE.
BASED UPON THE PROJECTION, THE TAX SHOULD RAISE APPROXIMATELY 1.6 MILLION BILLION OVER 15 YEARS.
WE BELIEVE THAT THIS AMOUNT WILL ENABLE US TO PLAN, DEVELOP APPROPRIATE SOLUTIONS TO MEET CURRENT NEEDS CAUSED BY OVERWHELMED AND AGING INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEM, AND TO ACCOMPLISH THE IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED TODAY TO ADDRESS FUTURE DEMANDS.
IN ADDITION, THE MONEY CAN BE MULTIPLIED SEVERAL TIMES OVER BY AGGRESSIVE PURSUIT OF MATCHING FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF COORDINATED PROJECTS WITH JASPER COUNTY.
SO, UH, WE'LL GO INTO THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND AMOUNTS.
UM, I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE TALKED TO YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND OUR TOWN ADMINISTRATORS AS OF I AND, UM, SO THERE MAY BE SOME NUMBERS.
SUGGESTED NUMBER CHANGES HERE.
SO YES, THE TRIANGLE, AND HAVE I SAID THIS CORRECTLY, UH, JARED, IT'S CAPACITY AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
BEAUFORT COUNTY SECTION OF THE TRIANGLE MADE BY 1 72 78 IN ARGENT.
THIS PROJECT WILL BE DEVELOPED JOINTLY WITH JASPER COUNTY.
TRAFFIC COUNTS ON THESE ROADWAYS HAVE EXPLODED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ON ALL THREE QUARTERS.
I COULD JUST SIMPLY SAY BECAUSE OF SOME CITY
CAN I ADD AFTER HIGHWAY ONE 70 A COMMA HIGHWAY 2 78 COMMA? YOU MAY.
CAN WE DO THAT? WELL, AND I, I, AND MAYBE I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT SHOULDN'T 4 62 BE INCLUDED IN THAT? NO.
PART OF THE REASON I CAME IN WHEN I CAME IN.
OH, 'CAUSE IT'S IN JASPER COUNTY.
YEAH, BUT THE INTERSECTION WITH IT, PART OF THE REASON I WAS LATE IS BECAUSE THAT WAS BACKED UP.
SO THE INTERSECTION TO TURN LEFT.
SO THE ANSWER IS YES, BUT, BUT IT FALLS UNDER ONE 70.
SO IT REALLY IS MORE THAN A TRIAL.
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THAT TURN BACKS UP TO OLD FIELD ON TIMESHARE TURNOVER.BUT TONIGHT IT WAS BACKED UP ALMOST THAT FAR.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE LIVED DOWN THAT ROAD.
62, THEY DRIVE THROUGH THAT ROAD, WHEREVER TO, TO WORK.
THAT'S EVERYBODY THAT WORKS OUT THAT WAY LIVES IN JASPER COUNTY AND OUT WHAT WE DO WITHOUT 'EM.
DAN, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT MIGHT MAKE SOME SENSE IF YOU CAN WORDSMITH IT CORRECTLY.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH IN THE SUN CITY AREA, WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT BECAUSE THE FOLKS AT SUN CITY BRINGS LIKE 12,000 VOTES.
SO JUST IN BUFORT COUNTY, UHFOR PROBABLY 15,000.
WE MIGHT NEED TO SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE.
WE MIGHT NEED, WE MIGHT NEED TO SAY SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP US TO BENEFIT RESIDENTS OF SUN CITY.
WELL, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK I WANNA WRITE THAT IN THERE.
I THINK IT MAY BE WE'LL SELL IT THEN.
BUT YOU SELL IT THAT IT MAY BE, YOU CAN MENTION IT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SELL IT.
AND THEN REBO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, UM, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE REIMAGINE REBO ROAD PROJECT DEVELOPED BY THE COUNTY, THE CITY OF BEAUFORT AND TOWN OF POPE ROYAL, TO IMPROVE SAFELY ATTRACTIVENESS.
I ADDED ATTRACTIVENESS, UH, TO WHAT I HAD DONE.
INTERCONNECTIVITY AND CAPACITY ALONG REBO ROAD QUARTER BETWEEN BOUNDARY STREET AND LADIES ON DRIVE.
IS THAT, HOW, IS THAT THE DEFINITION OF, OF THAT PROJECT? YES, I WOULD.
UM, IT'S BETWEEN BOUNDARY STREET AND THE RUSSELL BELL BRIDGE.
SO IT GOES BEYOND LADIES ISLAND DRIVE.
SO IT'S GOING THAT DIRECTION ONLY BETWEEN BOUNDARY STREET AND THE LADIES ISLAND DRIVE.
SO INSTEAD OF LADIES ISLAND DRIVE, YOU WANNA SAY RUSSELL BELL BRIDGE? THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN DO THE SIDE ROAD, RIGHT? RIGHT.
WELL LADIES ISLAND DRIVE STOPS RIGHT AT THE MC TIER BRIDGE.
SO THIS GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
THIS ONE GOES AWAY TO THE PARIS ISLAND.
THAT'S NOT RUSSELL BELL THEN RUSSELL BELL IS THE PARIS ISLAND BRIDGE'S BRIDGE.
THAT'S THE, I BEG YOUR PARDON.
THAT'S THE OFFICIAL NAME OF IT.
IS THIS THE ONE WHERE YOU CAUGHT HELL FOR WANTING TO REDUCE THE LANES? OH YEAH.
THIS IS, LEMME TELL YOU, AND I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA SIDE NOTE HERE.
BLUFFTON, WE CAUGHT HELL WHEN WE WENT TO DOT AND WE WANTED TO TAKE BLUFFTON ROAD FROM FOUR LANES DOWN TO TWO AND PUT PARALLEL PARKING IN THERE.
THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT EVER HAPPENED.
IT SLOWED THE TRAFFIC DOWN, IT ADDED PARKING FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO WALK AROUND AND IT MADE IT A BETTER COMMUNITY.
SO I'M NOT GONNA BE AGAINST YOU ON, ON TO COME WELL, THE MAIN ARGUMENT, THE MAIN ARGUMENT IS EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE ARGUMENT THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT SCREAMING THAT EMERGED WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED.
'CAUSE WE HAVE A HOSPITAL RIGHT ON THAT CORRIDOR.
WE HAVE A FIRE STATION ON THAT CORRIDOR.
THE NEXT END QUOTE, END QUOTE AND RE I'M JUST SAYING YOU HAVE ONE OUTLIER HERE.
I'LL CALL UPON YOU WHEN NEEDED TO COME JUST TO JUST, JUST FOR MY KNOWLEDGE, JOHN.
WE ARE NOT DOING ANY MR. JARED, I SHOULD ASK YOU QUESTION.
WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING DOING THAT.
FROM, FROM WHERE BOUNDARY STREET ENDED RIGHT BACK TOWARDS PARIS OR AIR STATION.
THAT WAS A PAINFUL, THAT WAS A PAINFUL EXPERIENCE.
NOW THERE COULD BE THROUGH THE PROGRAM PROJECTS.
I I WOULD ADD ONE THING OR ONE OTHER QUICK CHANGE IS IF YOU CAN MOVE ATTRACTIVENESS, SWITCH ATTRACTIVENESS AND INCAPACITY.
'CAUSE IT'S A SAFETY CAPACITY.
INTERCONNECTIVITY AND ATTRACTIVENESS IS, IS AN ADD-ON.
WELL, AND IT ALSO IS A GOOD PLACE TO END
HIGHWAY 46 IMPROVEMENTS, UH, CAPACITY AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG SOUTH CAROLINA.
FRICK FROM ONE 70 TO JASPER COUNTY.
ADDITIONAL SAFELY IMPROVEMENTS, IE TURN LANES AND INTERSECTIONS ALONG SC 46 FROM ONE 70 TO BUCK WATER PARKWAY.
ALL IN PLAN IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE DESIGNED SO AS TO PRESERVE THE SCENIC BYWAY DESIGNATION.
SOUTH CAROLINA SCENIC BYWAY DESIGNATION, I THINK IS WHAT WE NEED TO PUT.
OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE TOWN OF TON'S LOOKING FOR.
TO PRESERVE THE SOUTH CAROLINA SCENIC BYWAY DESIGNATION OR SC YEAH.
JUST 'CAUSE IT IS, IT IS A STATE SCENIC BYWAY.
IT'S NOT A FEDERAL SCENIC BYWAY.
AND, BUT IT ADDRESSES THE TWO PARTS WIDENING SECTION TOWARDS JASPER COUNTY AND ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TOWARDS STARDUST AND GIBB.
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SO WE CAN DO OLD MILLER, WE CAN DO SOME OF THE OTHERS.UH, LADIES ISLAND QUARTER IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, ONCE THEY SAW THIS, THEY UNDERSTOOD IT.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S LADIES ISLAND CORRIDOR? I'VE GOT A WOODS MEMORIAL BRIDGE TO CEN.
IS THAT ROUGHLY THAT'S THAT'S ROUGHLY, WE DON'T GO ALL THE WAY TO CHOWING, BUT THAT'S IT.
BECAUSE JUST PAST WALMART AND THEN WE STOPPED.
BUT THAT'S, CHOW CREEK IS A GOOD DESIGNATION.
AND, AND SHOULD WE SAY ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT SETUP IN THAT? UM, WELL, SO SOMEWHERE YOU SAID, UM, THAT YOU'RE PLUSING UP THE OLD PROJECTS, WHICH IS IN ESSENCE WHAT THAT 40 MILLION IS.
IT'S A, IT'S A, UM, SO MAYBE I SHOULD JUST SIMPLY SAY A SENTENCE.
THIS, THIS IS IN, IN THIS WILL BE IN ADDITION TO FUNDS, UNSPENT FUNDS ALREADY APPROVED IN THE 2018 REFERENDUM.
WELL, UM, THIS IS TO HELP FULLY FUND A UNFUNDED, THIS IS TO, UH, RAN OUTTA MONEY.
TO FINISH THE LADY ISLAND CORRIDOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, THEY'RE FULLY FUND, I JUST DON'T WANNA REFER, REFER IN FACT, JUST LIKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WERE CONCEIVED IN 20 17, 20 16 TO FULLY FUND, NOW WE, NOW WE'RE IN 2024.
AND WHO KNOWS, THERE MAY BE MORE, MAY BE A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THEM.
THAN WE WELL WE'RE, WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON ALL OF 'EM.
UM, A COUPLE STARTING TO TRICKLE TO CONSTRUCTION AND THE OVERALL COST IS 72 MILLION.
WE'VE GOT 30 MILLION FROM 2018.
WORD WARD SMITHING FULLY, FULLY FUND.
DOES A PROJECT GET LISTED IN CIP WITHOUT BEING ALREADY FULLY FUNDED? YES.
UM, BUT ON STATE'S LEDGER, THEY DON'T LIST PROJECTS THAT DON'T, THAT AREN'T FULLY FUNDED.
BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE COUNTY IS THE STATE HAS A PROGRAMED AMOUNT FROM THE FEDERAL, UM, TRANSPORTATION BILL THAT THEY KNOW THEY HAVE A FIVE YEAR HORIZON OR WHATEVER THAT THAT BILL WAS ALLOCATED FOR.
SO THEY KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE GONNA GET EACH AND EVERY YEAR.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA GET, BUT THIS SALES TAX CREATES THAT.
SO THOSE PROJECTS GOT CONCEIVED AND STARTED EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T KNOW THE FULL AMOUNT WHERE THE FULL FUNDING WAS COMING FROM.
THIS WILL COMPLETE THAT FULL AMOUNT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
IT'S, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE BRIDGE.
WHEN WE PUT 80 MILLION ON THE BRIDGE, WE DID NOT KNOW WHERE THE REMAINING 160 MILLION WAS GONNA COME FROM.
THE BRIDGE ISN'T PART OF CIP YET.
WHAT DO YOU REFERENCE IN CIP UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS? WELL, IT'S, IT'S A COUNTY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, BUT IT IS, AND IT'S ALSO ON THE STATE PLAN.
SO THE STATE HAS A CIP, THEY CALL IT THE DIP.
I'M JUST ANTICIPATING SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONING CAROL WHEN SHE SAYS THIS MONEY IS TO FINISH THE JOB.
AND SOMEBODY SAYING, YOU MEAN YOU STARTED A JOB WITHOUT KNOWING WHERE THE FUNDS WERE COMING FROM? SO, SO DEAN ANSWERS THAT IN ANOTHER, ANOTHER STATEMENT WHERE HE SAYS, THIS IS NOT THE BUDGET.
THESE FUNDS ARE NOT THE BUDGETED FUNDS.
THIS IS A CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE PROJECT.
'CAUSE WE'RE, THE FULLY COST OF THE PROJECT ISN'T FULLY KNOWN YET BECAUSE THESE PROJECTS AREN'T FULLY DEVELOPED AND THEY, OKAY.
THE WAYS TO DO IT, UH, TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE LADIES ISLAND CORRIDOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS CAN CONTRIBUTE TO OR TO BRING TO FRUITION LADIES ISLAND CORRIDOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS.
LIKE WHAT WORDING CAN WE USE THAT'S NOT GONNA BE INFLAMMATORY THAT SAYS, AH, WHAT I COULD SAY IS WHAT I'VE SAID IS THESE FUNDS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE MONIES APPROVED IN THE 2018 REFERENDUM.
THAT'S GOOD TO FULLY REALIZE THE SCOPE.
IN ADDITION TO IT DOESN'T MEAN, DOESN'T MAKE IT SOUND LIKE WE RAN OUT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE CONTINUING IT.
WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING, THIS IS THE, THE PART TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING IS SACRIFICING THE SCOPE IN ORDER TO FIT IT TO THE PROJECT FUNDS THAT WE HAVE.
SO WE DIDN'T SELL THIS BIG PROJECT AND WE ONLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, SO WE'RE GONNA CUT, CUT, CUT, CUT.
AND THEN NOBODY'S HAPPY AT THE END.
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SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE FULL VISION AND SCOPE.AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING, MAKE SURE THE FUNDS ARE THERE.
SO IS THIS A CONTINUATION OF A, OF THE PROJECT? THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE 2018 PROJECT AND I THINK THE SENTENCE DISARMS THE QUESTION.
CONTINUATION THE, AND IT ADDRESSES IT.
IT ADDRESSES SCRIBING UP CORRECTION THROUGH LADIES ISLAND.
WHAT IS, IS IT, IS IT LADIES ISLAND OR OR LADY ISLAND? LADY.
WHAT I I REMEMBER THAT BACK FROM THE 1980S.
YOU REMEMBER GARY? FORDHAM, RIGHT? YES, I DO.
WE ALWAYS, IT'S LADIES WITH PHE, NOT THE I.
SO NOW, UM, WE GET INTO THREE SECTIONS HERE, FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN THAT, UM, I THINK MAY REQUIRE A LITTLE CHANGE OR AT LEAST SOME REALLOCATION AND MAYBE READ DESCRIPTIONS.
UM, BLUFFTON, EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THE 40 MILLION? DID ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING TO YOU ABOUT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY? I THINK IT'S GONNA NEED MORE AT THIS POINT, BUT I MEAN, THEY'RE, THE FUTURE PROJECT FUNDS IS WHAT'S GONNA HELP ANY SHORTFALLS.
BUT THE ISSUE, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER TO ME IT'S A QUESTION OF SALES, RIGHT? THAT IF, IF, IF, IF, BECAUSE WHAT THOMAS SUGGESTED FOR ME IS, YOU KNOW, THAT BASICALLY FOR HILTON HEAD, HE WANTS THAT NUMBER TO GO TO 60 MILLION.
IF I, I HATE TO BE SO BLUNT, BUT IF HILTON HEAD GOES UP, BLUFFTON HAS TO GO UP
I MEAN, I I I DON'T MEAN TO BE, BUT BLUFFTON PEOPLE LOOK AT HILTON HEAD AND SAY THIS IS NOT FAIR.
THEY'RE GETTING MORE HILTON HAD, PEOPLE WOULD LOOK AT BLUFFTON AND SAY THE SAME THING.
IF IT WAS DIFFERENT AND THERE'S A REASON WHY WE DID 40 AND 40.
AND I THEN I CAN TELL YOU WHAT BEAUFORT AND PORT ROYAL SAID, RIGHT, RIGHT.
AND A HUNDRED, NO, THEY SAID IF THEY'RE GETTING 40, WHAT THE HELL? WE OUGHT TO GET 42.
YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE GETTING, YOU'RE ONLY GIVING US 20.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SO YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT KIND OF PLAYING RIGHT NOW THE GOOD THING IS WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO WITHIN ZERO TO 40 MILLION TO MAKING EVERYBODY HAPPY.
LET'S MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY WITH THE 40 MILLION THEN.
WELL, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, AND THIS IS THIS OR GO TO 50 MILLION FOR THE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BACK UP BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING TO THE NORTH OF THE, THE BROADS HERE.
BUT YEAH, MY, NO, MY QUESTION THAT I ANTICIPATE BEING RAISED BY SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN BLUFFTON OR HILTON HEAD.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU A QUESTION.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.
WE HAVE ROADS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN FULLY ESTABLISHED AND WIDENED, WHEREAS NORTH OF THE COUNTY THERE ARE LESS PEOPLE LIVING THERE.
ROADS HAVE BEEN LONGER ESTABLISHED.
HOW DO WE ANSWER THAT? I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A VALID CONCERN.
I'M SAYING THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA HEAR.
YOU'VE GOT 40 OR SO ON HILTON HEAD.
YOU'VE GOT 35 TO 40 IN BLUFFTON.
YOU HAVE ANOTHER 30 TO FIVE TO 40 IN UNINCORPORATED OAT T IN BLUFFTON.
CAN I OFFER A SUGGESTION? YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER TO THIS.
I DON'T, SO I'M NOT LOOKING TO CAUSE A FIGHT.
WE SEVEN AND, AND NOBODY HERE HAS THE EXACT NUMBER WHO, WHO LIVES THERE.
BUT WHAT'S REFERENCED IN THE BIG PROJECTS ON, IN PARAGRAPH SEVEN, A $260 MILLION IS RECOMMENDED SOUTH OF BROAD AND 135 MEN HAS RECOMMENDED SOUTH, UH, NORTH OF THE BROAD.
SO THAT'S A TWO TO ONE SPLIT, WHICH SORT OF SOUNDS APPROPRIATE WITH THE POPULATION AS WELL.
2 78, WHICH I'M ASSUMING FOR THE 2 78 PROJECT ENHANCEMENTS, THAT'S FROM THE ONE 70 HILL BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT FROM ONE 70 OUT TOWARD THE FREEWAY AS PART OF THE TRIANGLE PROJECT.
THE 2 78 ENHANCEMENTS IS SIMILAR TO THE LADY IMPROVEMENT LADIES ISLAND IMPROVEMENTS IS FOR THE BRIDGE PROJECT.
BUT THAT'S GOING BACK TOWARD THAT, THAT'S MONEY IS GOING BACK TOWARD TO THE HILTON HEAD.
SO WHEN YOU ADD THAT 2 78 IN, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S $60 MILLION.
THAT'S A, THAT'S ANOTHER BIG PRETTY GOOD SIZE CHUNK GOING TO BOTH OF YOU.
WELL, AND I WOULD, I WOULD BACK US UP AND TOM YORK HERE LAST YEAR, BUT, UM, I, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BECAUSE THE REST OF US WERE HERE AND IF I'M REMEMBERING THIS WRONG, PLEASE.
UM, BUT MY MEMORY IS THE CONVERSATION IN THE 40 MILLION FOR BLUFFTON WAS A VERY SPECIFIC PROJECT AND A COUPLE OF OTHER MINOR PROJECTS ONE WEEK.
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PROJECT THAT SHE'LL BE UNNAMED.UM,
AND SO WE SAID WE WOULD PUT 40 MILLION IN FOR HILTON HEAD AND THERE WERE NO MAJOR PROJECTS FOR HILTON HEAD TO GET THAT AT 40.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GO UP FROM 40.
I WANT TO, AND I WANNA SAY THAT, AND I GUESS THE QUESTION TOM OF THE HILTON HEAD PEOPLE IS WHAT WOULD THE 60 DO THAT THE 40 WOULD, WHAT IS THAT EXTRA 20 THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IT IS THE SEA PINE CIRCLE AND THE ADJACENT CORRIDORS BIG PROJECT SINCE THE, UH, TOLL BOOTH CAME DOWN, THE TRAFFIC HAS INCREASED ON THE CROSS ISLAND.
UH, AND IT HAS STRESSED, UH, SEAT FIND CIRCLE TO THE POINT THAT IT FAILS.
IT FAILS ALMOST GRIDLOCK, UH, IN THE MORNING, UH, NOON, UH, AND FOUR 30 TO FIVE 30 AND WEEKENDS FOR SURE.
SO I, I'VE GOT A LIST OF, OF PROJECTS, AND I THINK YOU HAVE THIS FROM MARCH, UH, THAT, UM, MORE THAN OVERWHELMS 60 MILLION.
SO IF SOMEBODY ASKED, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU SPENDING THE 60 UH, MILLION, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN GO.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, I SUGGESTED THAT THE DEAN CONSIDER REWORDING, UH, THE DEFINITIONS DEFINITION TO INCLUDE, UH, SEA PINE CIRCLE AND, UH, ADJACENT CORRIDORS TO ATTRACT VOTER SUPPORT.
WELL, HOW, WHAT ABOUT IF WE GO TO 50 50 AND 50 MM-HMM.
WELL THAT WOULD BE 2 25 THEN I THINK.
WHAT WHATEVER THE, WHATEVER THE RESULT IS.
BUT THOSE DOLLARS AREN'T THERE.
I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA BE AVAILABLE.
THEY'RE JUST NOT, THEY'RE JUST NOT EARMARKS SPECIFICALLY FOR, BUT I THINK I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK THAT IF WE AIRMARK WE'LL GET MUCH MORE SUPPORT.
THE MORE, THE MORE THAT'S EARMARKED AND THE LESS THAT'S IN A BIG POT.
NOW WITH THAT SAID, WE STILL NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, 40 MILLION TOWARDS A PROJECT MAY NOT BE THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT.
EOT MAY BE YEAH, WE KNOW THAT.
BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF GETTING THIS PENNY SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK UP TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SAY, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT RESTRUCTURING ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY YOU'RE COLLECTING FROM US, BRINGING SOME OF IT BACK DOWN TO US.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, ALRIGHT, LET'S TAKE IT BACK DOWN.
UM, IF WE GO TO 50 50 50, THAT ADDS, UM, THAT ADDS ANOTHER, UM, 40 MILLION INTO THAT PACKAGE.
WELL, WHAT, WHERE, WHERE YOU, WHERE, WHERE YOU TALK, WHAT, WHERE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT IN THE FIFTH TODAY? WELL, I, I GO, I GO LOUGHTON MUNICIPAL 50, MILTON HAD 50 AND NORTH OF THE BROAD TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS, UH, 50 BECAUSE BEAUFORD AND PORT ROLE SAW THAT NORTH OF THE BROAD.
I MEAN THEY SAW THE TWO AND THEN THEY SAW THAT NORTH OF THE BROAD POT.
AND THE NOTION WAS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND TOM YOU WANT SEE, FIND CIRCLE AT ADDED TWO V ONE? WELL, YEAH, TOM GAVE ME SOME LANGUAGE.
I DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THIS DOCUMENT FOR THE MEETING.
I JUST, I JUST WAITED TO SEE WHAT EVERYBODY WOULD WHAT LANGUAGE DID YOU GIVE? UH, I TWO 15 SUGGESTED MOVING FUTURE PROJECTS.
TWO 15 TAKE AIRPORTS OUT, RESURFACING AND REMOVING AND PATHWAYS.
SO IT SAYS INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS TO INCLUDE SEA PINE CIRCLE AND ADJACENT CORRIDORS REQUESTED BY THE TOWN OF HILTON.
I'M, I'M GONNA SUGGEST SOMETHING ON THE NUMBERS.
I KNOW YOU JUST SUGGESTED DEAN.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA LEAVE LADIES ISLAND
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CORRIDOR OF 40 MILLION MM-HMM.ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? MM-HMM.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING AND, AND, AND DON'T READ ANYTHING INTO THIS.
WE'RE TALKING A HUNDRED MILLION, SO 40 AND 60.
AND HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WHY DON'T WE CHANGE BLUFFTON TO 60 HILTON HEAD TO 60? BECAUSE I SENSE WHEN YOU GO BACK AND SAY THEY SAID 50, YOU'RE STILL GONNA GET SOME PUSHBACK.
60 60 TAKE NORTH OF THE BROAD TRANSPORTATION TO 60, THAT TAKES THE 2 55 DOWN TO 1 75.
THAT BRINGS IT BELOW THAT MAGIC TWO NUMBER.
THAT MIGHT NOT BE A BAD THING.
THAT ADDS 40 TO NORTH OF THE BROAD TRANSPORTATION.
20 TO HILTON HAD 20 TO BLUFFTON, IF MY MATH IS CORRECT, TAKES 80 AWAY FROM THE 2 55.
I DON'T KNOW HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT SIT? I, IT IT, IT SOUNDS FINE TO ME.
I MEAN I I'M, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE AGAIN, I'M, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO BALANCE HERE.
I I I KNOW WHO HIS TOWN MANAGER IS.
I KNOW HIM WELL, KNOWN HIM FOREVER.
AND 1 75 DOES SOUND BETTER FOR, FOR FUTURE PROFIT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, THE FUTURE IS SO BIG, IT MAKES PEOPLE LACK TRUST IN WELL WHAT IS THAT GONNA LOOK LIKE? WHAT ARE THOSE IN THE FUTURE? SO I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD, CHARLIE.
HOW, HOW DOES IT SOUND TO THE OTHER YEAH, SOUNDS GOOD.
BUT SOME OF THE STUFF IN HERE FOR, UH, FUTURE PROJECTS LIKE THE TALKING ABOUT THE LADIES OUT ON THE BRIDGE AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A, WELL, I I, THAT DOESN'T EVEN NEED TO BE, I CAN TAKE ALL THAT OUT.
I MEAN, UM, I THINK YOU PUT THAT IN BECAUSE THE FEELING BY AND NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE WAS THAT THAT MIGHT GET PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR IT AT LEAST.
AT LEAST WE NEED TO, WE HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT.
EVEN IF IT'S JUST MONEY FOR PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING AND, AND, AND SO CHARLIE ACQUISITION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO HERE'S WHAT, AND THIS GOES 60, 60, 60.
JARED, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT? I KNOW YOU'RE NOT IN TAB.
I'M CURIOUS OF THE, THE OUTLIERS.
I THINK IT, I I THINK IT ADDRESSES CONCERNS THAT ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES, Y'ALL WENT BACK AND FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE MUNICIPALITIES TOO, THEY DIDN'T REALLY BEAT UP ANY OF THESE OTHER THINGS.
THEY JUST BEAT UP THE, THE ONE THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO THEM.
SO WHAT IS, SO IF YOU SATISFY, WE NEED THEIR SUPPORT.
SO IF YOU SATISFY THEM, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANNA DO, UM, IT MAKES PEOPLE HAPPY.
I THINK WHAT IS HAVING CHARLIE, CHARLIE AND CAROL IS RIGHT, THEY'LL SEE ONE THING ON THIS.
WHAT IS HAVING FOUR SIX SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THEY SEE ONE THING THEY LIKE I WANNA TAKE YOU BACK TO REPORT.
REMEMBER THERE'S SIX AND A HALF DISTRICTS SOUTH OF BROAD, YOU ONLY HAVE FOUR AND A LITTLE BIT OF JOE NORTH OF BROAD.
THE POPULATION IS SOUTH OF BROAD AND SO THEY'RE, THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT WHAT'S HAPPENING SOUTH OF BROAD LIKE HILTON HEAD.
WELL IN YOUR 60, 60, 60 MATCHES THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU GOT ONE 20 TO 62 TO ONE.
TWO TO 1, 1 75 AND THEN THIS STAYS FOUR.
I MEAN THAT ALMOST SOUNDS YOU KNOWLTON HEAD.
THE PEOPLE IN NORTH BROAD DON'T THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT EITHER.
I MEAN THIS IS, THIS IS RIGHT.
WE DON'T KEEP, WE AIN'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WELL EVERYTH, WE DON'T WANT 80% OF ONE PART OF THE COUNTY TO SHOW UP HOWEVER MANY LIVE THERE TO VOTE AGAINST SOMETHING.
MORRIS, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? HE'S GOT IT.
HE WAS JUST TRYING TO GET THE NUMBERS AND WHAT KIND OF, UM, AND SO AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING OUT.
BUT WHAT, BUT WHAT TYPE OF NUGGETS ARE WE GIVEN AS FAR AS UM, HILTON HEAD AND, AND ALL THE, THE BROAD, LIKE HE MENTIONED SOMETHING SEA PINES AND ADJACENT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN CONNECT WITH.
WE HAVEN'T REALLY GIVEN ANYTHING, AGAIN, SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT PEOPLE CAN CONNECT WITH.
LIKE LOFTON SAYS WITH THE LATS PRIORITY.
IS THERE A LATS PRIORITY LIST UP HERE? OR IS THAT THERE IS.
UM, SO AGAIN, THE REASON IT SAYS PRIORITY WAS THAT WAS TERMINOLOGY.
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OTHER ONES SAY ROAD RESURFACING GENERIC.UM, GENERIC IS GONNA GIVE MORE OPPORTUNITY, BUT IT DOESN'T GIVE THE SPECIFIC THE WHAT, WHAT I HEAR MORE NORTH OF THE BROAD THERE, THERE ISN'T THAT MANY $40 MILLION PROJECTS.
UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF $5 MILLION PROJECTS, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT DIFFERENT KEY INTERSECTIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, HOWEVER, RAISING THESE ROADS UP TO AVOID FLOODING WELL, AND IT IS GONNA COST A HELL OF A LOT OF MONEY AND THAT WILL, BUT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE MORE UNINCORPORATED THAN IT IS THE INCORPORATED.
BUT WE DON'T, BUT WE DON'T SAY ANYTHING IN HERE INCORPORATED UNDER IN THE TOWN LIMITS.
WE DON'T SAY THAT'S NORTH OF THE BROAD RIVER.
SO IT'S, AND AGAIN, THERE YOU GO.
THE TRANSPORTATION THAT THE ADVISORY GROUP THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED TO RECOMMEND AND WORK WITH YOU ON PRIORITIES WILL BE THE ONE THAT HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ON HOW THOSE DOLLARS ARE ALLOCATED.
I'M SAYING, I MEAN, AND I MEAN, 60 MILLION BREAKS DOWN TO 4 MILLION A YEAR DURING THE LIFE OF THIS PROJECT.
THAT'S, IT'S NOT BAD, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT A TON OF MONEY
WELL KIDDING, YOU'RE NORTH OF THE BROAD COMMENT THEN.
I DON'T, IF I'M READING THIS AND I'M IN MUNICIPALITY, CITY OF BEAUFORT OR TOWN OF PORT ROY, IT LOOKS LIKE IT BELONGS TO THOSE TWO.
YEAH, I WAS THINKING THAT TOO.
BUT I VERSUS YOUR COMMENT, IT'S JUST HOW YOU READ IT.
WELL, I THOUGHT THAT AT FIRST, BUT IT SAYS DEVELOP IN COORDINATION WITH YEAH.
I MEAN IT'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REFERENCED IN THERE, BUT THAT THE COUNTY, IT DOESN'T SPECIFY THAT IT'S ALL GONNA BE SPENT THERE.
AND, AND, AND THE COUNTY DEVELOPS IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY OF BUFORT AND TOWN OF PORT ROYAL DEVELOPED BY THE COUNTY IN COORDINATION WITH YES.
I THINK THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY IN COORDINATION WITH COUNTY, COUNTY NEEDS TO BE IN THERE.
'CAUSE THEN THAT'S LADIES ISLAND.
THAT'S EVERYONE WHO'S NOT IN THE CITY OR PORT ROYAL.
I READ THAT AND I WAS LIKE, HOLD ON, HOLD ON A MINUTE.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN CITY IN OR ROYAL? WELL, LISTEN, LET, LET ME, WHAT I'M GONNA DO, THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO GO AHEAD AND REWRITE.
LET LET, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, I'LL, I'LL GET A DRAFT REDONE ON THIS AND GET OUT IN EVERYBODY'S HANDS, UM, NO LATER THAN MONDAY.
UM, SO THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH IT AGAIN AND BE READY TO PUT A FINAL, YOU KNOW, TWIST ON IT A WEEK FROM TONIGHT.
BUT THAT'LL BE THE, THAT'LL BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT, RATHER.
SOMEONE'S GOT MY HUSBAND ASKED, BROUGHT DINNER ADDED.
I ADDED THE LANGUAGE IN FUTURE PROJECTS ABOUT THE THIRD BRIDGE.
UM, AND, UM, I CAN BE SPECIFIC ABOUT, ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, PUT A SENTENCE IN THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE COST OF SUCH A BRIDGE WILL BE MUCH IN EXCESS OF, OF THESE NUMBERS.
BUT THESE DOLLARS WILL BE AVAILABLE, CAN, CAN, MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR PRELIMINARY PLANNING DESIGN, BLAH BLAH.
SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT ESSENTIALLY SAYS, WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY FOR THE BRIDGE WITH THIS MONEY NECESSARILY, BUT WE ARE GONNA TRY TO GET IT.
IT MAY, WE MAY NEED TO, I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO, I'M JUST SAYING IT, IT, IT, IT MAY BECOME NECESSARY BEFORE LONG AND THERE'S DOLLARS HERE THAT WE CAN GET STARTED WITH THIS.
BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE, WHAT I'M SAYING, I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE VERY REMISS IF WE DON'T MENTION IT.
I THINK THAT THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ABOUT TRANSPORTATION IN THIS COUNTY THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THIRD BRIDGE.
I, I MEAN, I, I THINK THE, THE WAY IT'S WORDED IS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD READING IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
UM, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, ME, I LIKE, I LIKE THE POSITIVE BENT HERE.
I GET A LITTLE CONCERNED WHEN WE START SAYING, BUT THIS ISN'T ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THE BRIDGE.
OKAY, WELL I CAN LEAVE IT LIKE THIS AND IF YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, I DON'T KNOW.
AND NEXT WEEK YOU WANNA MAKE SOME CHANGES.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, AND I, AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL PUT 'EM IN.
PUT 'EM IN, IN A, WE CAN SEE IT.
YOU WERE CONCERNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT I THE WORDING ON THIS THOUGH.
WHAT WAS THE NO, I WAS, NO, I WAS JUST SAYING AND FLESH OUT.
THESE ARE ALREADY, I MEAN, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ALREADY LISTED, BUT IT JUST, LIKE IN THIS, UM, BLUFFING PARK, UM, HILTON HEAD PARK, HE JUST, HE DEFINED SEA PINES.
IT GAVE SOMEBODY SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW? UM, LIKE IN THIS NORTHFOLK BROAD, WE JUST SAY RESURFACING ROAD, RESURFACING THE INTERSECTIONS.
I MEAN, WHAT IS THAT? WHERE IS THAT? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? YOU KNOW, HE BOUGHT UP RAISING THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE ROADS WE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, DIG OUR
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TEETH INTO LIKE THE WARSAW, RIGHT? MM-HMM.JUST IN THAT FAR, HEY, THE WARSAW.
NOW, WHEN HE BROUGHT THAT UP, Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT A BRIDGE OR RAISING IT UP.
HAVE WE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT SEA WALLS? NO.
I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN, WE'VE USED IT ON THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL IN THE MOSS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY EXAMPLE THAT I'M AWARE OF WHERE WE'VE USED THE SEAWALL.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROJECT, BUT IN, IN NEIGHBORHOOD OFF REBO ROAD, IT ALL DRAINS TOWARDS THE MARSH.
WELL, THE BOTTOM OF THE MARSH PEOPLE FLOODED.
AND THEN THE, THE SPANISH MOSS TRAILS ON THE OLD RAILROAD BED, WHICH IS ACTING AS A DAM.
UM, SO, BUT SOME OF THE HOUSES WERE BELOW THAT AND THEY WOULD FLOOD FREQUENTLY.
SO THE INTENT WAS TO RAISE THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL BY TWO FEET.
WELL, IN LIEU OF RAISING THE TRAIL, WHICH WOULD GET US DOWN INTO THE SLOPE AND FEEL MORE MARSH, WE REINFORCED THE, THE DAM BY A WALL THAT WENT BELOW THE, THE BOTTOM OF THE DAM.
SO IT REINFORCED THE DAM, AND THEN WE EXTENDED THE TOP OF THE WALL TWO FEET OUT OF THE GROUND.
SO IN ESSENCE, IT'S A SEA WALL, UM, WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO RAISE THE GRADE OF THE TRAIL BY TWO FEET.
IT'S DOING THE SAME DIFFERENCE.
I MEAN, BECAUSE I WAS JUST THINKING WARSAW, THAT AREA VERSUS A BRIDGE, A NICE, AESTHETICALLY PLEASING MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S TOO MUCH, UM, SEA WALL ON BOTH SIDES, YOU KNOW, RATES IT UP AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NO, THAT'S ENGINEERED IN A WAY THAT IT CAN GO UP IF WE HAVE TO GO UP, BUT UP ON BOTH SIDES.
YEAH, NO, I MEAN, I LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT.
THE, THAT TWO FOOT SEA WALL COULD POTENTIALLY BE A LOT CHEAPER AND EASIER TO MAINTAIN THAN, THAN A BRIDGE STRUCTURE.
SO, AND YOU SEE WARSAW ON THERE AND PEOPLE GO, OH, THAT, THAT'S RIGHT THERE.
I'M GONNA, I, I, I'LL COME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE THAT GOES IN THERE.
I TRYING FEW LOOK AT, SEE WHAT WE COULD DO.
HOW SAMPLE, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU SOLD SOME IDEAS TO SOME PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE WORKING LAST YEAR.
ALRIGHT, LET'S KEEP GOING HERE.
TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS. UM, THESE ARE, UM, WE, WE TALKED, I PUT THE NUMBERS IN THERE.
UH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PERCENTAGES, UH, OF THAT AMOUNT OF THOSE DOLLARS.
I JUST WENT AHEAD AND PUT THE DOLLARS IN.
UM, WE CAN GO BACK TO PERCENTAGES.
UH, BUT UM, I THINK DOLLARS ARE GOOD.
UM, MASS TRANSIT SAFETY AND TRAFFIC FLOW.
UM, EMERGENCY EVACUATION AND RESILIENCY.
UM, RESURFACING PRESERVATION, UM, PATHWAYS, UH, TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGIES.
UM, I KNOW WHAT I DIDN'T PUT IN HERE.
I KNOW WHAT I LEFT OUTTA HERE.
NOW I CAN FIND LONG TERM DEDUCTION IN THAT.
AND AGAIN, I'VE SAID WE RECOMMEND PRIOR TO BE GIVEN TO PATHWAYS ALREADY APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IN THE 2018 REFERENDUM.
UM, TECHNOLOGY ACCESS ROADS, UH, AND THEN LONG-TERM DEMAND REDUCTION.
CAN WE, CAN WE USE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN JUST LONG-TERM DEMAND?
I KINDA LIKE LONG-TERM DEMAND REDUCTION.
YOU LIKE GREEN BELTS? 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA LIKE GREEN BELTS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE GREEN BELTS.
WELL, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO HAVE GREEN BELTS? WELL, IT REDUCES OUR LONG-TERM.
DEMAND IT, FLIP IT, SAY GREEN BELTS AND PUT LONGER.
BUT SHOULD WE ALSO REFERENCE, IT SAYS ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY TO REDUCE NEW LOTS AND THEREBY ESTABLISH SHOULD WE PUT PROPERTY OR PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS? NO.
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I WOULD BE CAREFUL ON THAT.SO IN THE STATE STATUTE JUST SAYS GREEN BELTS GREEN, THERE'S NO DEFINITION, BUT, AND THERE'S NO, YOU CAN DO AS MUCH AS YOU CAN DO UNTIL THERE'S AN OPINION THAT TELLS YOU OTHERWISE AND A LOSS.
WELL, THERE'S NO OPINIONS YET, BUT THERE IS ANOTHER SALES TAX THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THAT, THEN YOU'RE KIND OF LEANING INTO OTHER SALES TAX.
THAT WAS THE QUICKEST NO I'VE EVER HEARD.
THAT MEANT NO, THAT WAS PERFECT,
ALRIGHT, THEN I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TITLE THIS.
GREEN BELTS AND THEN PUT LONG-TERM DEMAND REDUCTION IN KAREN'S AFTERWARDS.
ALRIGHT THEN THE IMPLEMENTATION RECOMMENDATIONS.
SORRY, JARED, BUT I KNOW YOU JUST CAN'T IMAGINE HOW MUCH FUN SOMETHING LIKE THAT BE.
UM, I THINK THIS, I I DO THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THOUGH.
THAT'S, I THINK BUILDING TRUST, LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
UM, THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD'S DONE A GOOD JOB.
THAT COMMITTEE THAT THEY'VE HAD, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE, THEIR COMMITTEE? THE CITIZEN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE OVER THEIR 2019 BOND REFERENDUM.
THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF THAT.
I THINK IT'S BEEN WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR.
AND THESE PEOPLE CANNOT BE PEOPLE WE'RE BUYING PROPERTY FROM.
LIKE, YOU CAN'T STACK THIS UP WITH A BUNCH OF LANDOWNERS WHO SAY, OH YEAH, YOU NEED MY GREEN BELT.
I'LL BUY MY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? MM-HMM.
SO YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE?
SO SAY NOBODY WANTS WHAT I OWN DEAN.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE STRONG LANGUAGE IN THAT CONVINCING, UH, THAT WE DO NEED THAT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE OR THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT HAS TO BE A PART OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
IF NOT, THEN, ALRIGHT, WELL, I'VE GOT A LONG DEFINITION OF IT.
BUT, UM, NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE VERY MUCH IN TUNE OF THEM GETTING THAT DONE.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY'LL SAY, HELL, WE DON'T NEED THAT UNTIL AFTERWARDS.
BUT WE CALL IT, THEY NEED TO CONVINCE THE THE VOTERS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO, TO WHAT THEIR DOLLARS IN ADDITION TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL OR WHOEVER ELSE IS IN CHARGE.
YOU COULD REFERENCE THE SCHOOL BOARD.
SIMILAR TO BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.
WOULD WHATEVER THE NAME OF THAT THIS IN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES, THEY REPORT OUT EVERY QUARTERS SUCCESSFUL.
AS MUCH AS WE TIE THIS TO SUCCESS SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL, THEY WERE, IT'S SUCCESSFUL.
IN FACT, WHEN WE GET TO THIS, MAYBE WE'LL GET THE GUIDELINES FROM THE SCHOOL OF HOW THAT COMMITTEE WAS SET UP.
WHY NOT? BECAUSE I HEAR THEM REPORT OUT.
AND I, AND THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LET THE COMMITTEE DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AS FAR AS REGULARITY OF MEETING.
BUT YOU'RE JUST SUGGESTING THIS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
'CAUSE CHAIR WOULD ONE
AND THEN WE JUST GOING BACK YEARLY.
I THINK WE SHOULD CALL THE CITIZENS OVERSIGHT CITIZENS OVERSIGHT BOARD.
BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE FEEL EMPOWERED BY THAT.
UM, AND THEN SU REVENUE BONDS.
UH, AND THEN, UH, THIS LONG-TERM DEMAND REDUCTION.
I'M NOT SURE WE NEED, WE NEED TO SAY WHAT WE ARE SAYING BECAUSE I HAVE THIS FEELING THAT THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS BOARD IS GOING TO YEAH.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT.
I THINK IF YOU DID SAY ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE RIGHT.
AND YOUR ASSUMPTION, AND I THINK THE REFERENCE WOULD BE THE GREEN SPACE BOARD.
TAKE THIS ONE OUT AND YOU COULD TAKE IT OUT ALTOGETHER.
BUT IF YOU LEAVE IT IN, THE REFERENCE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
HOW ABOUT UTILIZE THE APPROPRIATE BOARD
WELL, AND NOT TO SPEAK FOR COUNCIL, BUT WHAT COUNCIL HAS DONE SO FAR, EVEN WITH A COUPLE OTHER PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS, IS EVEN IF IT WASN'T RUNNING THROUGH GREEN SPACE TODAY, GOOD QUESTION.
THEY ASKED GREEN SPACE TO EVALUATE IT AND BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION.
SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE THAT THEY'VE DONE RECENTLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD DO THAT CONTINUALLY, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S
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BEEN, BUT IT'S, IT'S A, IT IT ITS SPEAKS TO CONSISTENCY.SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'LL UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.
CAN I ASK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GREEN BELT AND GREEN SPACE? THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT STATUTE SPOKE.
I MEAN, THE NOTION WAS FROM A TRADITIONAL PLANNING STANDPOINT, AND I'M A, I'M A PLANNER BY DEGREE.
IT GOES BACK TO ENGLAND AND THE PLANNING THAT WAS DONE IN THE 19TH CENTURY FOR URBAN GROWTH SPACES IN THE AREA AROUND LONDON WERE THESE VILLAGES SURROUNDED BY GREEN BELTS.
WHICH ESSENTIALLY ENCAPSULATED THE VILLAGE OR THE, OR THE, OR THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT SURROUNDED IT WITH A, WITH GREEN AREAS SO THAT YOU WERE, YOU WEREN'T GETTING WHAT WE ALL LOVE SO MUCH, WHICH IS SPRAWL.
I MEAN, SO, I MEAN THAT'S WHERE THAT CONS, THAT'S WHERE THE, THE LANGUAGE COMES FROM.
BUT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY JUST GREEN SPACE.
WHAT WILL PEOPLE MISCONCEIVE GREEN BELT AND GREEN SPACE, THEY'RE GONNA SAY, WE ALREADY PAY A PENNY FOR GREEN SPACE TAX.
WHY ARE YOU PUTTING IT IN THIS PENNY? IT'LL BE GONE BY, IT WON'T BE GONE IN THE BEGINNING WHEN YOU'RE GONNA START SELLING THIS EARLY NEXT YEAR.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA WAIT TILL OCTOBER, SEPTEMBER.
I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU SOME CITY PEOPLE SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, WE ALREADY HAVE GREEN SPACE.
WHY ARE YOU PUTTING GREEN BELT? THEY'RE GONNA ASK WHAT CARE ASKED BASEMENT.
WELL, THE ANSWER IS BY THE TIME THIS THING COMES UP, WELL MAYBE WE NEED TO SAY CONTINUATION THAT THAT ASSUMES THEY PAY ATTENTION THAT IT'S GONE.
THAT'S, YOU'RE MAKING SOME JUMPS HERE.
WE CAN SAY CONTINUATION AND USE THE SAME WORD.
AND, AND, AND WE, I THINK WE HAVE TO USE GREEN BUILDING GREENVILLE CONTINUATION, CONTINUATION.
THIS IS ONGOING CONTINUATION, ONGOING, YOU KNOW, PRESERVATION OF JUST THEMATICS.
'CAUSE IF, IF ANYONE NEEDS GREEN BELTS, IT'S, IT'S SUN CITY.
BECAUSE RIGHT AROUND THEM IS GETTING SO DEVELOPED.
I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY DEAD IN THE WATER.
THEY GUYS, THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY SWAMPS.
THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY SWAB SUNSETS.
AND I THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED A LAST WEEK, DEAN.
THIS KEEPS DAVIS OFF THE COUNTY'S BACK, UH, AND TRYING TO RENEW HIS, UH, HIS REFERENDUM.
AND THIS PICKS UP THE GREEN SPACE VOTE.
'CAUSE TOM DAVIS SPOKE THREE TIMES LAST WEEK IN SUN CITY.
AND HE SAID THERE'S A TRANSPORTATION REFERENDUM COMING AND GREEN SPACE WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.
SO HE DID NOT TRY TO DERAIL YOU.
SEE, HE USED WORKING, I BOUGHT HIM LUNCH, SO, SO HE WAS GONNA WAIT TWO YEARS AND TRY AND BRING IT BACK.
WELL, CAN'T SAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WE WERE TALKING MOSTLY ABOUT SAVANNAH PORT EXPANSION RIGHT UP NEW DREDGING ON THE SAVANNAH RIVER, RAISING THE BRIDGE GOING INTO SAVANNAH.
THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE ING BIG DEAL.
'CAUSE I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF SAVANNAH RIVER AMERICA COMPETITION.
WHAT BOARD ARE YOU NOT ON? SERIOUSLY? I WAS JUST GONNA ASK THAT, DAN, BACK TO THE YES SIR.
I THINK WE MIGHT WANNA RECOMMEND TOO, TO THEM 3, 5, 3 5 YEAR TERMS FOR, FOR THE MEMBERS SO THAT, UH, SO THAT YOU DON'T BURN DOWN SOMEONE TRYING MAXIMUM THREE, FIVE YEAR TERMS OR IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? NOBODY HAD TO GET TO SERVE MORE THAN 15 YEARS.
LIKE WHAT, WHAT TIME IS IT
PEOPLE CAN'T GO MORE THAN FIVE YEARS, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CONTINUITY.
SO THERE'S NO, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF CONTINUITY.
BUT IS THAT WELL, YEAH, I GUESS TO RECOMMEND IT, RECOMMENDING IT SO THAT, SO THAT WE DON'T GET DEAN SITTING ON ALL THESE
HE'D BE LUCKY TURNING UP HIS HERE.
I VOTE FOR HIM AS CHAIR OF THE NEXT.
WAIT, I'LL JUST TELL YOU, I'LL TELL Y'ALL SOMETHING THAT IS JUST A BAD OMEN FOR ME.
THAT, UH, MY, MY, MY WIFE WAS AT THE, SO LOKO MEETING IN YEAH, TUESDAY HARDY ON TUESDAY WHENEVER IT WAS.
AND APPARENTLY THE CHAIRMAN JUST SAID, WELL, DEAN WILL COME AND, AND GIVE YOU A COMPLETE BRIEF ON THIS
TOLD AND THAT JUST, ALL THAT SAYS TO ME IS, YOU KNOW,
AND I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK HE SAID IT, A RESIDENT TO SPEAK INSTEAD OF USED TO GET A SALARY.
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PROBLEM DOING IT, YOU KNOW, DEAN, DO YOU MISS WORKING FULL TIME? DIDN'T WORK.BUT IS THAT WHY YOU, I DON'T EVEN GET LUNCH.
IS THAT WHY YOU BOUGHT LUNCH FOR THE SENATOR TO KEEP HIM QUIET SO THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE WITH THIS? WE ARE BEING RECORDED.
THE SENATOR AND I GO BACK ABOUT 40 YEARS.
YOU MASS TRANSIT ONE, THERE'S A TYPO.
Y'ALL SAID THE CRITICAL LAND BOARD IS, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT, LOSING MONEY WITH WHAT'S, WHAT'S THAT? THEY, THEY WERE JUST ESTABLISHED FOR THE 25 MILLION BOND REFERENDUM, UM, THAT I FORGET HOW MANY YEARS AGO.
SO, UM, THAT BOND REFERENDUM IS, IS BEING SPENT.
AND SO UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER BOND REFERENDUM SPECIFIC TO THAT, THEY DON'T HAVE A PURPOSE.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE GREEN PENNY, THEY WOULD, THERE'D BE ANOTHER BOND REFERENDUM OUT THERE.
BUT WITH THE GREEN PENNY IN, UM, NOW IT MAY BE THAT, THAT, I MEAN THEY'VE GOT I THINK ANOTHER SEVEN OR 8 MILLION THAT THEY HAVEN'T SPENT YET.
THEY'RE PRETTY, THEY'RE DOWN TO NOTHING.
BUT I THINK IT'S TWO AND A HALF.
I WAS GONNA SAY TWO, TWO OR THREE PROJECTS ON THE, ON THE BOOKS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M GONNA RUN THIS THING OUT.
UM, AND WHAT I'VE ON MASS TRANSIT, BECAUSE NO CENTRAL PLAN CURRENTLY EXISTS FOR A COMPREHENSIVE MASS TRANSIT PROGRAM, IT SHOULD BE A FIRST PRIORITY, UM, UTILIZING THE EXISTING TRANSIT AUTHORITY AS THE LEAD AGENCY, UH, FOR THIS EFFORT, UH, SUPPORTED BY AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE COMMITTEE.
UM, SO IS THAT STILL THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH? MM-HMM.
UM, SO THEN CONCLUSIONS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS AND REVIEW THE GRAVITY, THE ASSIGNMENT, THE CRITICAL NEED FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND NEW COMP AND NEW COMPONENTS FOR OUR LOCAL MOBILITY BECAME QUITE EVIDENT.
IT APPEARS THAT WE ARE NOT JUST BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.
AND IT WILL TAKE A COORDINATED PUBLIC RELATIONS EFFORT TO MOVE THIS REFERENDUM FORWARD FOR A BETTER QUOTE, MOBILITY FUTURE FOR ALL ON BEHALF OF THE SALES TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
MAY I SAY THAT IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO BE TRUSTED WITH THE COUNCIL PREPARING THESE ARE IMPORTANT RECOMMENDATIONS AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH COUNSEL AT YOUR DISCRETION TO EXPLAIN AND DISCUSS THESE PROJECTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE NICE? JUST, JUST A THOUGHT FOR MINE IS GO AHEAD, PRINT YOUR NAME AND SIGN IT AND THEN HAVE EVERY COMMITTEE MEMBER SIGN IT TO AS IT'S SO THEY KNOW YOU DON'T WANT I CAN, WE CAN DO THAT.
THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED RIGHT NOW IS, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS.
I DID TALK TO THE CHAIRMAN, UM, UH, AND HE, HE WAS, HE MUST, I THINK HE MAY HAVE CALLED YOU RIGHT AFTER HE TALKED TO ME, BUT I MEAN, HE SAID, I'M GONNA CALL JARED RIGHT AWAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WE'RE GONNA GO BEFORE, UM, THE COMMITTEE ON THE 11TH.
UM, SO DO WE KNOW WHAT TIME THAT MEETING IS YET? CHARITY, IF IT'S AT FOUR O'CLOCK? SO COUNCIL STARTS AT FIVE.
SO THERE'S AN HOUR OPPORTUNITY HOUR PRESENTATION.
THIS IS AS IT'S PLANNED TODAY.
WHATEVER COMMITTEE IT IS, DOESN'T REALLY MATTER FOR YOU GUYS, BUT, UM, THIS IS THE ONLY THING.
COMMITTEE, THIS IS THE ONLY THING ON THE AGENDA? NOPE.
OH, THEY, THEY NEED, UM, OUR APPROVAL TO DO DUE DILIGENCE ON THEIR PROJECTS.
BUT ALICE SAID THAT'S LIKE FIVE MINUTES AND THEN YOU GUYS AND I'LL, I'VE SET ASIDE THE TIME TO BE HERE TOO, SO, SO ANYBODY THAT CAN SHOW UP WOULD BE WELCOME.
4:00 PM FOUR O'CLOCK ON TUESDAY TO, OR MONDAY TO 11TH.
IS IT HERE? IS IT NEXT DOOR IN COUNCIL CHAMBER DOOR? RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
LAST ONE WE DID WHEN WE DID IT.
WAS IT? WELL, THEY STARTED COUNCIL MEETINGS.
THEY MOVED IT FROM SIX TO FIVE.
SO LAST TIME WAS LAST TIME WE WERE OUT THERE AT THE GYM AT UM, OH YEAH.
WELL, BECAUSE THEY WERE ON THE TRAVELING ROAD SHOW.
SO IF TOM DAVIS SHOWS UP, I WILL CORRAL HIM AND TAKE HIM OUTSIDE AND HOLD.
NOW, UM, ARE WE STILL MEETING NEXT THURSDAY THE SEVENTH TO SIGN? WE WE'RE MEETING NEXT, NEXT THURSDAY THE SEVENTH.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE A FORMAL ADOPTION ON THE YES.
ON THE RECORD OF THIS DOCUMENT.
AND THEN THOSE OF US WHO CAN GO ON THE 11TH TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE IT AND THEN, AND EVERYBODY THAT AND, AND, AND IF, IF PEOPLE CAN'T COME, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU LET JARED OR ME KNOW
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I AM.UH, AND I WILL GET A COPY OF IT TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN SIGN IT.
I JUST THINK THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE ALL SIX OF US SIGN IT.
I'LL SEND AN INVITATION TO EVERYONE SINCE YOU GUYS HAVE IT ON YOUR CALENDAR.
IF THEY CAN'T ATTEND, THEY CAN ZOOM IN.
BUT PUT 'EM, WELL, THIS IS NEXT THURSDAY, RIGHT? OH, NO, I MEAN, FOR THE COUNCIL THING.
THIS, CAN I HELP YOU IN ANY WAY? YOU'RE DOING ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING.
THIS IS NO 15 TO 20 MINUTES TO GO THROUGH THIS AND MAKE NO, THAT'S FANTASTIC.
CAN I, BEFORE WE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, BEFORE WE CLOSE IT UP, AND I THINK YOU'RE HEADING THAT WAY, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT, I'M SORRY.
UM, SEEING AS WE HAVE A COUNCILWOMAN IN HERE, AND I KNOW YOU'RE ONE OF 11.
DO YOU MIND MIND SHARING? BUT I READ EVERYTHING.
DO YOU MIND SHARING WITH US YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOW THIS WILL APPEAL, IF AT ALL, TO COUNCIL AND WELL, ONE THING I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IS JARED DID AN EXPLANATION WHEN I FIRST CAME ON COUNCIL ON THE BUDGET ON THE THREE PENNY.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY, WHY ARE YOU ONLY DOING ONE? SO YOUR POINT WAS WELL TAKEN.
WE COULD HAVE DONE THREE, BUT WE OPTED FOR ONE FOR TRANSPORTATION.
WHETHER YOU SAY IT OR NOT, SOMEBODY WILL ASK.
I THINK THEY'LL BE VERY HAPPY YOU'RE DOING ONE PENNY.
AND I KNOW THEY'RE ALL INTO THE TRANSPORTATION PART.
I, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT.
AND I'VE TALKED ENOUGH ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CITIZEN OVERSIGHT.
THEY SHOULD LIKE THAT PART TOO.
THAT'LL BUILD OUR CREDIBILITY.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE.
I TOLD THEM, I COME TO THESE, I'VE LEARNED A LOT.
LIKE ALL YOUR SALES TECH STUFF WAS VERY INFORMATIVE IN THE BEGINNING.
EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL SHOULD READ THAT.
UM, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'LL BE A SLAM DUNK.
WILL IT BE HELPFUL THAT THOSE OF US THAT ARE REPRESENTING TOWNS SAY THAT WE'VE GOT THE TOWN SUPPORT OR WE BELIEVE WE HAVE? YES.
ARE YOU RAISING YOUR HAND? YES.
CAN I GO AHEAD? YOU FINISH? NO, I'M DONE.
I THINK YOU'LL HAVE GOOD SUPPORT.
DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD RECOMMEND ALSO THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR PR TO DO THIS? I, I THINK, I THINK THAT IF, IF COUNSEL GETS SERIOUS ABOUT IT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON A, ON A PUBLIC AFFAIRS OR PUBLIC RELATIONS FIRM TO DO JUST FACTUAL EXPLANATIONS.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO THEN HAVE SOME KIND OF, OF A NON-GOVERNMENTAL RELATED CITIZENS COMMITTEE TO SELL THIS.
WE HAVE, WE ALSO HAVE THREE CHAMBERS.
THE CHAMBERS ARE GONNA HAVE TO, GONNA HAVE TO PLAY A ROLE HERE.
AND, BUT, BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONTRACT WITH FORMAL PUBLIC RELATIONS FIRM TO JUST PACK, PUT TOGETHER THE, THE PACKAGING MATERIALS AND EXPLAIN IT TO, YOU KNOW, PRODUCE THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE NEED THAT IN, IN 2018, UM, WE DID THAT.
SO THE SALES TAX TRANSPORTATION.
THERE WAS A FIRM THAT MADE BROCHURES, INFORMATIONAL BROCHURES AND INFORMATION.
THEN IF OTHERS WANTED TO USE THAT, THEY COULD USE THAT RESOURCE OR, OR LINK TO IT OR, SO THERE WAS AN INFORMATION PAGE JUST AS YOU'RE TALKING.
AND THEN THERE WAS OUTSIDE FOLKS THAT SOME PEOPLE, WHAT ROLE DOES THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE PLAY? SHOULDN'T THEY BE ADVOCATES FOR THIS? THEY WOULD, THEY COULD BE ADVOCATES AS OTHER GROUPS.
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY COULD BE ADVOCATES.
SO WOULD THIS GROUP PRESENT TO THEM? SO I DON'T WANNA TIE DEAN UP TO BE THE SPOKESMAN FOREVER.
BUT BUT ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IF YOU CHOOSE TO TALK ABOUT IT OR TALK TO GROUPS, THAT WOULD BE YOUR DISCRETION.
AND YOU, YOU'RE ARMED WITH AS MUCH INFORMATION AS ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY.
I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PENNY COMES FROM VISITORS, BECAUSE THAT IS A REAL SELLING POINT.
YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT MAKE OUR TRAFFIC TERRIBLE ON SATURDAYS, ON HILTON EDGE,
WELL, THEY'RE PAYING X PERCENT OF THE PENNY.
WHAT IS IT? I'D LIKE TO GET THAT EXACT NUMBER TOO.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE SELLING POINT.
THE ESTIMATE IS AROUND 40%, 4%.
IF YOU GET THE NUMBER AND IT'S LESS THAN 40, DON'T TELL US.
HONESTLY, WHETHER IT'S ENTIRELY ACCURATE OR NOT, I THINK IT'S REASONABLE.
I THINK IT'S, IT, IT MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU TELL PEOPLE FOUR OUT OF EVERY 10 PENNIES COME FROM VISITORS
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AND IT MAY BE HIGHER.COMPARE FEBRUARY AND JULY AND SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.
ANYTHING ELSE? TONIGHT I'LL GET THIS THING REDONE AND IT'LL BE BACK IN YOUR HANDS, UH, NO LATER THAN THE FIRST OF THE WEEK.
THAT'S IN THAT, UM, COMPARISON.