Nov 20, 2023 Finance Administration and Economic Development Committee

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WE LIKE TO CALL THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER THIS MONDAY,

[2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

PLEASE TO AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE THAT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY. SO OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO IS I ANY OBJECTION SEEING? NO OBJECTION. WE WILL LOOK AT MAKING THAT CHANGE THE AGENDA. SO NOW IS THERE SOMEONE THAT CAN MAKE THE MOST APPROVE THE AGENDA? I'LL MAKE A MOTION APPROVE THE AMENDED AGENDA.

SECOND PART THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT ? SEE, NO OBJECTION. THE AGENDA HAS AMENDED AND WE HAVE REMOVED NUMBER 12.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO CITIZENS COMMENTS MINUTES. OH, I'M SORRY.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES- September 18, 2023]

APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2023. CAN I HAVE SOMEONE MAKE THAT MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU.

AND ANY OBJECTION TO APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 18TH? SEEING NO OBJECTION WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION. SO THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

ALL RIGHT. NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CITIZENS COMMENT AND SHARED WITH ANYBODY THAT HAS SIGNED UP ONLINE OR EVEN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TODAY.

[7. UPDATE FROM ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR]

AND WE ALSO HAVE AN UPDATE FOR APPLICATION EXTENDER WHICH IS OUR DOCUMENT MANAGER WE ADDED FEW SEARCH FIELDS FOR THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND FOR THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE TO HELP THEM WITH A BETTER SEARCH FOR PLANS AND THEIR PROPERTY RECORDS.

WE ALSO HAVE DIGITIZED ADDITIONAL STATE RECORDS FOR THE PROBATE DEPARTMENT AND FOR OUR CURIOUS SERVICE. WE HAVE MAIL LOGGERS. WE'VE ALLOWED THE ADMIN FACILITY TO BE OUR PILOT PROGRAM FOR THE MAIL LOCKERS THAT WE'VE INSTALLED AND SO FAR IT'S GOING WELL AND WE WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THAT SAME UP LOCKERS SYSTEM AT THE BLUFFTON

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NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE DO AND THEY ONLY ASSUME THAT WE JUST COLLECT BOXES BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. WE SCAN RECORDS, WE DIGITIZE THEM TO MAKE THEM AVAILABLE TO THE DEPARTMENTS. WE DO JOB REQUESTS. WE WOULD LIKE TO INSTEAD OF MANY DEPARTMENTS OUTSOURCING TO OUTSIDE FOR THEIR ENVELOPES INSERTION WHICH WE DO SOME FOR CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS BUT LIKE THE TREASURER'S DEPARTMENT OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT THEY MAIL OUT THEIR THEY OUTSOURCE YOU KNOW, TO STUFF THEIR ENVELOPES AND DO THEIR JOB REQUESTS AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO ONLY INSIDE AND. I KNOW A FEW YEARS AGO THAT USED TO BE THE CASE BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED SO WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT BACK WITH RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND ALSO WE ARE GOING TO DO A SURVEY TO HAVE QUESTIONS SENT OUT TO THE DEPARTMENTS TO LET US KNOW WHAT THEY DO CURRENTLY KNOW ABOUT WORKERS MANAGEMENT AND WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OUR MANAGEMENT DO ON THEIR BEHALF IS SOMETHING THAT ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND THAT WILL BE IT FOR THE UPDATES FOR ME PERSONALLY I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT I AM A REGION FOR SOUTH CAROLINA PUBLIC RECORDS ASSOCIATION AND BECAUSE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF XTERRA I WON THE BOB ROGERS INNOVATION AWARD . SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT AND THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE. YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? I MISSED IT WHEN YOU SAID YOU CAN DO IS THIS NEW PLATFORM FOR FOR YOU FOR XTERRA? YES. YOU CAN ASK THE BUILD YOU CAN ACCESS LIKE BUILDING INSPECTION AND WELL NOT THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS THE PLANS WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ALLOW THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE RELEASED TO BE PUBLIC THROUGH THE PORTAL SO THE CITIZENS WILL CREATE AN ACCOUNT AND THEN THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE RELEASED.

OKAY. SO THE PUBLIC WANTED TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE CONSTRUCTION OR RENOVATION. THEY COULD CREATE AN ACCOUNT AND THEN WE GOT THE ADDRESS IF THEY HAD SEEN SOMETHING. YES.

OKAY, THAT'S GREAT. YEAH. THANK YOU.

AND JUST BACK TO FOYER JUST SO WHENEVER YOU GET A REQUEST GIVE US AN AVERAGE OF OF HOW LONG IT TAKES AND WHAT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IS THAT SOMEONE WOULD BE CHARGED FOR TO GO TO SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY INTENSE AND LOTS OF WORK BUT JUST IN A BALLPARK WELL CURRENTLY WE'VE COLLECTED OVER 20 $600 OYA IS NOT LIKE YOUR MONEY MAKER PER SE BUT THE REQUEST THAT COMES IN IS BASED THE LOWEST PAID SALARIES. SO THE FOYER POLICY WAS CREATED AND THERE WAS A $14 AMOUNT WHICH IS PER HOUR BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE AN HOUR FOR A DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE A DOCUMENT SO THE AVERAGE IS BEING LIKE $23 AND TEN AT THE MOST AND HOW LONG DOES THAT NORMALLY TAKE? IS THERE A BACKUP SOMETIMES OR IS IT USUALLY QUICK WHEN SOMEONE HAS A FOUR YEAR REQUEST TO RESPOND? THE INITIAL RESPONSE IS TEN DAYS AND THEN ONCE THEY MAKE THE PAYMENT WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE THOSE DOCUMENTS. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S MOVE ON THEN OUR FIRST

[8. FINANCE DEPARTMENT UPDATE]

THANK YOU. HELLO ALL FIRST WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR QUARTERLY.

SARAH, DO YOU HAVE OUR REPORTS . JUST TO LET YOU KNOW TAX PROPERTY TAX NOTICES FOR REAL PROPERTY HAVE NOT BEEN MAILED OUT YET.

SO OUR COLLECTIONS OUR TAX REVENUE COLLECTIONS ARE EXTREMELY DOWN AND THEY'RE JUST NOT THERE. SO THESE FIRST QUARTERLY REPORTS ARE GOING TO LOOK A LITTLE BLEAK. SO OKAY, HERE WE GO. YOU KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT IS GREEN AND OKAY SO HILTON AIRPORT IS THAT FUND 5400. YES.

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THE NEXT ENTERPRISE FUND WILL BE FUND 5100 WHICH IS THE LADY'S ISLAND AIRPORT.

SO THE LADY'S ISLAND AIRPORT HAS COLLECTED $332,849 AND HAS SPENT 290,949 FOR A NET INCOME OF $41,899. BOTH ARE IN THE BLACK FOR THE FIRST QUARTER.

THE THIRD ENTERPRISE FUND WILL BE FUND 5010 5010 IS OUR SOLID WASTE FUND SO OUR SOLID WASTE FUND HAS MILLEDGE ATTACHED TO IT. AS YOU ALL KNOW.

SO THIS FUND HAS A NET LOSS $2.1 MILLION RIGHT NOW THE TAX COLLECTIONS ARE ONLY AT 480,690 SO THAT IS NOT REPRESENTING WHAT HAS ACTUALLY COLLECTED TO DATE OR REAL PROPERTY THAT'S MOST LIKELY A DELINQUENT OR VEHICLE TAX PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.

SO THE COLLECTIONS ARE AT 480,000 690 THE EXPENSES ARE 2,000,623 821 SO THAT SOLID WASTE HOPEFULLY TAX REVENUE COLLECTIONS WILL BE POSTED COLLECTED AND POSTED AND MY NEXT REPORT TO YOU ALL THESE NUMBERS WILL CHANGE DRAMATICALLY FOR THE GOOD THE FINAL ENTERPRISE FUND FUND 5025 WHICH IS OUR SOLID OUR STORMWATER FUND SO STORMWATER HAS COLLECTIONS REVENUE COLLECTIONS OF 109,820 $21 AND EXPENSES OF 980,000 WON 11 ARE A NET LOSS OF 840,290. THIS FUND DOES NOT HAVE MILLAGE ASSESSED STORMWATER BUT STORMWATER FEES ARE ON YOUR TAX NOTICES. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THAT REVENUE IS NOT THERE YET. SO MOVING TO OUR GENERAL FUND WHICH IS THE BIGGIE OKAY GENERAL FUND SO OUR GENERAL FUND I'M NOT GOING TO GO IN DETAIL WITH THIS FUND.

YOU SHOULD HAVE COPIES OF THESE REPORTS BUT THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE RIGHT NOW IS $19,798,000 AND THE EXPENDITURE ARE 43,887,000. SO WE'RE BEHIND THERE TOO AND IT'S ALL DUE TO THE TAX REVENUE NOT BEING COLLECTED. SO SORRY THESE REPORTS ARE JUST REALLY GOOD NEWS TODAY AND THEY'RE CONTRARY TO OTHER REPORTS BUT WE KNOW THE REASON BEHIND IT SO I'M WELL CAN I TALK ABOUT MY NEXT ITEM BEFORE CHRISTINE GETS IT'S THE SECOND ITEM WHILE I'M UP HERE IS THE CERTIFICATE OF JUST TWO SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IT.

OKAY. I'M SORRY THE NUMBERS LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS THAT EVERY YEAR THIS HAPPENS IT HAPPENS YEAR FIRST. SO THIS IS NOT ANYTHING WE'RE SURPRISE NOTHING THAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT IS JUST NORMAL FIRST QUARTER REVENUES BECAUSE AGAIN THE TAX YEAR JANUARY 1ST IS WHEN PEOPLE START REALLY PAYING THEIR TAXES.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY.

YES. I MEAN WE CAN'T OPERATE FOREVER ON NOT COLLECTING TAXES BUT WE CAN OPERATE UNTIL FIRST OF THE YEAR. WE HAVE THE MY GUARANTEE YOUR TAX BILL IS ON THAT RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOUR ACTUAL TAX BILL IS AND IT TELLS YOU WHEN IT'S DUE. SO IF YOU HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT AND YOU'RE ACTUALLY WAITING FOR YOUR PHYSICAL BILL TO BE SENT TO MY COUNTY AND CREATE AN ACCOUNT AND THE TREASURER'S OFFICE THEY ARE TAKING TAX COLLECTIONS RIGHT NOW. YOU DON'T HAVE A PAPER ONE IN THE MAIL YET. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES ARE YOU KNOW TWO TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS THE ONE THAT PAY IT NOW OR THIS YEAR'S TAXES AND THOSE THAT CARRY OVER AND PAY

[9. GFOA AWARD FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING FOR 2022]

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I'M SORRY. OKAY. SO WE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT THE COUNTY HAS BEEN AWARDED THE ANNUAL AWARD OF FINANCIAL REPORTING ACHIEVEMENT. IT'S A IT'S OUR AWARD THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION EACH YEAR AND THIS PARTICULAR AWARD IS FOR FISCAL 2122 AUDIT AND OUR FINANCIAL REPORTING AND WE'RE PROUD WE'RE PROUD OF THIS AWARD AND IT'S AN ACHIEVEMENT THAT EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE SEEKS EVERY YEAR. SO WE'RE PROUD OF OURSELVES.

YES. OKAY. SO NEXT UP WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AS IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ABOUT THE AWARD, NO QUESTIONS. OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CHRISTINE WITH ME. YES.

AND YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION YOU GOT TO LOVE THESE NUMBERS HERE AND I KNOW ETCETERA, ETCETERA AND THAT'S WHAT I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS REALLY JUST THE BUDGET ITSELF.

THERE'S NO EXPENDITURE IN HERE IS IT? YES, SIR.

WHICH ONE ARE YOU? ALL OF THE TOP SECTION TOTAL REVENUE AND THEN UNDER THAT ARE ALL EXPENSES EXPENDITURES THE OBJECT CODE THE LAST FIVE DIGIT CODE OF THE ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT BEGINS WITH A FIVE. THOSE ARE YOUR EXPENSES IS IT NOT IN THE PACKET IT'S YOUR PAGES RETURN. OH MY GOODNESS IT'S THAT PAGE. YEAH ONE THIRD.

OKAY. OKAY OKAY OKAY GO AHEAD. WELL WELL WELL NO PROBLEM.

OKAY TELL YOU I'LL FIGURE IT OUT. THANK YOU OH OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, WE'RE GOOD THANK YOU. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. MS.. CHRISTINE WEBB, OUR COMPLIANCE DIRECTOR IS GOING TO GO OVER A TEXT WITH YOU AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THANK YOU. FIRST A COMPLETED PROJECT WAS THE CHARTER OF ACCOUNT CONVERSION WHICH TOOK A VERY LONG TIME TO COMPLETE. SO THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND TRAINING IS PROBABLY GOING TO GO NEXT WEEK NOT SO EVERYTHING WENT WELL ON THAT AS ONE PROJECT COMPLETE FROM FINANCE ANOTHER ONE IS THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT OR AT 123 WHICH IS GOING ON NOW AND THIS THIS SUMMARY RIGHT HERE IS THE STATE AID TAX AWARDS AND I PUT THIS OR FOR THAT ACTUALLY DID THIS FOR THE LAST THREE CYCLES SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH WAS AWARDED AND TO WHO AND MR. SULLIVAN WE'LL TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT THAT AND PRESENT THEIR FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND RECENTLY WE JUST ALLOCATED OUR ORDINANCE THE FIRST 25,000 TO GENERAL FUND AND THEN ANOTHER 5% AND THEN 30% TO THE DMS FOR THE FIRST QUARTER.

THAT'S CORRECT. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A CURRENT UPDATE ON THE STATE TAX QUESTIONS ON STATE AID. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THIS ABOVE ON THE STATE TAX? OKAY. FOR THE LOCAL THE NEXT ONE IS THE LOCAL TAX AND TAX THE 3% ADDITIONAL 3% AN ADDITIONAL 2%. SO THAT'S THE SUMMARY THE PAST THREE CYCLES SO IT WOULD HAVE AMAO AWARDED EXPENDED AND REMAINING BALANCES AND THIS IS GOING TO BE EMAILED IT WASN'T INCLUDED BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET THE MOST CURRENT INFORMATION OF RICE IMPORTS A VERY HARD ON SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SUMMARY FOR EVERYTHING FOR THE PAST THREE CYCLES AND ALSO FOR THE FIRST QUARTER WE ALLOCATED HER THE ORDNANCE BASED ON THE PERCENTAGES OR THE AMOUNTS ACTUAL AMOUNTS THE DMS SO FAR. OKAY THE BEST FOR THAT. OH YEAH.

AND ALSO THE MAP WHICH I HAVE IS NAMED IN LINE OF THE STATE CHANGING ABOUT USE OF THE TAX MONEY WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR ORDINANCE FOR THE FOR THIS OR NOT THIS IS A LEGAL QUESTION I'M SORRY BUT THE 15% OR SO IN THE COUNCIL IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT IF COUNCIL SEEKS TO TAKE

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OKAY SO WE WOULD APPLY THE STATE TAX LOCAL TAX TAXES OR NEITHER OR ONE OR THE OTHER WHICHEVER YOU GUYS CHOOSE TO DO RIGHT NOW. OKAY.

AND IS THERE A CAP ON EACH ONE FOR 15% EACH IN EACH WITH REGARD TO THE STATE IT'S 15% OFF THE TOP. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TOP IS BUT THAT THAT'S BEFORE THE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED AMONG OUR GENERAL AND BEFORE THEY'RE DISTRIBUTED TO THE DMO BUT.

YOU ALSO HAVE TO DO THAT VERY ONEROUS STUDY I THINK ONEROUS BECAUSE THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. YEAH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD HAS ALREADY DONE THAT AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO AMEND CAN'T PLAN IN ORDER TO INCORPORATE THAT IN THAT IF YOU WANT USE THE STATE MONEY STATEMENT YEAH I WANT TO USE ONE TO USE THE LOCAL YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL OF THAT AND ALL THE TRAINING THE SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION COUNTIES HAD THEY SAID YOU COULD WE'RE NOT IN THAT SITUATION BUT THAT SAID YOU COULD REACH BACK AND USE FUNDS FROM A PREVIOUS YEAR IF YOU HAD FUNDS LEFT OVER. YEAH I DON'T KNOW I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. I DON'T WANT TO EXPRESS ANY OPINION ON THAT.

OKAY BUT REMEMBER AS JEREMY COOKE INDICATED IT'S FOR A LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME SEVEN YEARS AND IT'S GOT TO BE DONE BUT THE STATUTE IS PRETTY CLEAR YOU CAN'T OR MAYBE DEDICATE FUNDS BEYOND SEVEN YEARS. SO THAT'S KNOW IT WOULD ALWAYS HAVE TO COME TO COMMITTEE FIRST YEAH WE WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR USUAL PROCESS FINANCE COMMITTEE OR I THINK FIVE WE HANDLE LATEX THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. OKAY YEAH I WOULD THINK SO YEAH . OKAY SO FOR THE LOCAL TAX AND EIGHT TAX GRANTS WE WERE GOING TO DELAY ADVERTISING THE LOCAL BRAND AWARDS APPLICATION PROCESS FOR F1 24 UNTIL WE FINISH REVIEWING AND AUDITING EVERYTHING. SO THE ACTUAL EXPENSES REPORTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SUBMITTED OF THE DOCUMENTATION AND POSSIBLY THINKING MORE TO ALIGN WITH THE FISCAL YEAR BASIS. SO 125 BUDGET AND ACTUAL THAT SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO DELAY THAT ANNOUNCEMENT OF THEM FOR NOW WE'RE BACK THE NEXT EVENT ALONG WITH HOW LONG UNTIL WE HAVE IN JANUARY ONE INSTRUMENT AS NOVEMBER NOW IT'S JUST THIS PAST MONTH AND THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS WHAT AIRLINES HAVE TALKED ABOUT IF WANT TO USE 15% OF THE EIGHT TAX FUNDS LOCALLY TAX FUNDS HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS WHICH WILL AFFECT AWARDING ANY MONEY USING THAT SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE UP. YES, SIR.

THAT'S A GREAT POINT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE LOCAL OUR LOCAL ORDINANCE DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY FOR GRANTS LIKE IT SHOULD IF WE'RE REALLY GOING TO STAY ON A GRANT RIGHT MORE BASIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE TAKING UP AT OUR NEXT FINANCE COMMITTEE TO THE BALL ROLLING BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THEN GO TO COUNCIL A RESOLUTION. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING THIS YEAR.

SO LEAST NOW IT'S BEEN AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE.

YEAH BUT I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCE LOCAL TAX ORDINANCE TO SEE WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAYS ABOUT HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED. THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT COUNCIL USED TO SIT ON ITS LOCAL TAX FUND AND DISTRIBUTE IT IN LARGE CHUNKS AS NECESSARY . WE DID IT.

YOU GUYS DID IT. YOU DID IT CENTER AND PROBABLY OTHERS SANTA HELENA YEARS AND YEARS AGO AFTER THAT COUNCIL DECIDED THEY WANTED TO ACTUALLY HAVE AN APPLICATION PROCESS SIMILAR THE STATE AWARD PROCESS WHERE FOLKS WOULD APPLY AND COUNCIL WOULD DIVVY UP FUNDS AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCE THESE ORDINANCES ARE TYPICALLY THEY COME FORWARD MAYBE IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY AND ARE ADOPTED USUALLY IN MARCH I CAN FORWARD THEM TO YOU IF YOU'D AND THEY BOTH KIND OF RUN IN TANDEM AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ORDINANCE YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THIS YEAR FOR INSTANCE GUYS AWARDED YOU KNOW, NOMINAL TERMS NOT NOMINAL BUT YOU KNOW SOMETIMES 30,000 SOMETIMES $100,000 TO DIFFERENT APPLICANTS.

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BUT I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCE TO SEE WHAT EXACTLY IT PUTS ON COUNCIL, WHAT THE DUTIES COUNCIL ARE WITH REGARD TO IT. SO I CAN DO THAT FOR AND WORK WITH ADMINISTRATION FOR THE NEXT FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING IN JANUARY.

OKAY DO THAT. OKAY MILLENNIALS FOR THIS WERE THANK ME BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING BEFORE US I SEND SO WE ARE MOVING ON TO NUMBER TEN I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY OR IS THAT

[10. DISCUSSION AND AWARD RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE ACCOMMODATIONS TAX BOARD (2% STATE)]

THANKS FOR HAVING ME. I JUST LIKE THE OTHER FINANCE REPORTS I REALIZE NOW IT'S PRETTY SMALL SO MY LITTLE LITTLE BIT LARGER PIECE OF PAPER SO I COULD TAKE A READ IT MYSELF SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH OVER THERE.

WE WE MODIFIED THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT NOT TOO MUCH THIS YEAR WE STACK BOTH OUR ARE THE TWO DEMOS WE HEARD FROM ONE WAS THE NORTHERN FOR COUNTY DEMO AND THEN OUR SCATTER REGION DEMO AND. PART OF THE REASON WE DID THAT IS THE TAX COMMITTEE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE THINK WE WANT TO GO. AND BY DOING THAT TO HELP US SET THE TONE FOR WHAT ARE THOSE INVESTMENTS GOING TO LOOK LIKE HERE IN 2324 IN TERMS OF MARKETING, A GREAT POINT THAT BOTH DEMOS INDICATED YOU KNOW WE HAVE THIS REALLY BIG ELECTION COMING UP SO THE COST OF ADVERTISING IS GOING TO GO UP SIGNIFICANTLY IN A BIG PIECE THEY WENT OVER TO WAS NEW TIMES FOR WHAT WE NEED IN TERMS OF TOURISM FOR EXAMPLE AUGUST SEPTEMBER AND, DECEMBER, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY ARE SUMMER MONTHS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SO I HOPE THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK AT AS WE EVALUATE DIFFERENT APPLICANTS AND WHAT THE REQUESTS DO.

THEY IMPACT THOSE TIMES THAT YEAR THAT ARE VIEWED AS NEW TIMES OR IS THERE ALREADY A LOT OF OTHER ACTIVITIES OR FESTIVALS OR EVENTS TAKING PLACE DURING THE TIME OF THOSE APPLICANTS SO THEY CAN PROBABLY WORK TOGETHER WITH THOSE THOSE FUND AND THEN I'VE PROVIDED A WRITTEN I TRY TO GIVE A WRITTEN RECAP. WE MET LAST TUESDAY AND, DID A FULL DAY STARTING THE AFTERNOON FULL AFTERNOON INTO THE EARLY EVENING OF APPLICANTS HEARD THEM AND THEN WE IMMEDIATELY DELIBERATED TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THEN I TRIED TYPE THAT UP PRETTY QUICKLY SO WE CAN GET ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ONE OF THE KEY FEEDBACKS WERE FROM YEAR. WAS THIS A DELAY? NOT BY COUNSEL'S FAULT THERE SOME I THINK SOME JUST A GOOD REVIEW THAT NEED TO TAKE PLACE SO THAT WE CAN GET FUNDS OUT QUICKLY THIS YEAR WE HEARD THAT FROM A LOT OF THE APPLICANTS.

I GOT TO TELL YOU, CHRISTINE AND BRYSON HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING TO WORK WITH ALL THE BRYSON CAMPBELL AND FOR ME THAT ARE FILLING THE GRANTS POSITION I RECOMMEND YOU CLOSE THAT AND LET HER DO IT ALL THE FRIENDS OF ONE TOO SHE WAS DYNAMITE TO WORK WITH.

I MEAN THIS PROCESS WAS SO SEAMLESS THEY WERE INCREDIBLY THOROUGH WHICH REALLY ALLOWED US TO SET THIS PROCESS UP AND ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY.

I'M SURE YOU DON'T MEAN TO GO THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT LINE BY LINE BUT I'M HAPPY ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND IF YOU WANT ME I'M I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT TOO. JUST TELL ME HOW YOU LIKE TO PROCEED QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD. YOU KNOW SHE LOVES HUMOR.

THANK YOU SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT ONE PROJECT THAT REQUESTED FUNDING DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYBODY WAS WAS ASKED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE LOCAL TAXES FOR THAT I THINK THE MATH OF SCHOOL MUSEUM IS 375,000 REALLY REQUESTED I GUESS IT WAS RIGHT AROUND THERE. YES, SIR. AND THE ELEVATOR PRICE OF PURSUING THAT AT THIS TIME OR YOU DON'T KNOW ARE THEY GOING TO PURSUE THE LOCALLY TAX REQUEST RIGHT. MOST LIKELY, YES. I SPOKE WITH MARY LEE CARNES WHO'S A FIDUCIARY AGENT TCL'S A FIDUCIARY AGENT. SO IT ACTUALLY WASN'T A MATTER OF SCHOOL REQUEST. IT WAS MORE OF A TCL FOR THE MATTER OF SCHOOL BUILDING I GUESS IT WAS MORE OF AN INVESTMENT IN AN ELEVATOR NEXT TO YOUR ELEVATOR.

THEY CURRENTLY THEY CURRENTLY HAVE AN EXTERIOR ELEVATOR AND THEY WANT TO REPLACE THAT.

I MEAN THEY NEED TO DO IT'S A FULL BLOWN I MEAN THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEY ACTUALLY ACTUALLY ALREADY HAD OR SOME OF THEIR ARCHITECTURAL I THINK CAN GO THROUGH PERMIT

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BUT THIS PROJECT PROBABLY EVEN TAKE PLACE UNTIL 2025. OKAY SO WE DIDN'T REALLY THINK IT WAS A GOOD USE OF THE FUNDS TO DISPERSE THOSE TIME UP. NOW WE RECOMMEND TO GO BEFORE LOCAL AGENCY TAX AND THAT WOULD FIT WITH OUR TIMELINE LITTLE BIT BETTER.

WE HAD A SIMILAR FOR USB FOR ACTUALLY THEY'RE GOING TO PUT AN ELEVATOR INSIDE THEIR BUILDING AS WELL SO WE RECOMMEND BOTH OF THOSE FOR LOCAL AGENCY TAX.

OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. MR. TOM, I SAW YOU A COUPLE OTHER ONES YOU'VE MADE THE REQUEST THEY GO TO LOCAL TAX AGE TAX AND GIVE REASON THAT BEING AS OPPOSED TO COMING THROUGH YOUR YOUR COMMITTEE OH COUPLE OF THEM THERE.

WELL ALMOST ALL OF THE PAY REQUEST FOR CONSTRUCTION WE RECOMMENDED THAT.

SO PART OF OUR STRUGGLE IS WE HEARD A LOT GREAT APPLICANTS. WE HAD JUST OVER 2.6 MILLION IN REQUEST AND WE HAD A MILLION TO RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL SO WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST YOU'VE GOT A GIANT TICKET ITEM THAT'S MULTIYEAR PROGRAMING WE HAVE ACTUALLY OVER IN BLUFFTON THEY HAVE A GOAL HERITAGE CENTER THEY WANT TO BUILD THAT FUND WAS FOR PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO UNTIL FIVE PHASES TO GET THROUGH AND. I'VE TALKED MY HEAD I DON'T WANT TO MISQUOTE BUT IT WAS NUMBER 20,000,005 AND $2 MILLION FOR ALL FIVE PHASES AND SO IT WAS GOING TO TAKE THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS TO GET TO THOSE PHASES. SO WE ACTUALLY MADE THE RECOMMENDATION WHY DON'T GO SEE IF YOU CAN DO SOMETHING QUICKER WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND THEN YOU TALK TO TOWN HEAD THEY GOT ASKED HILTON FOR EACH OUR AGE OR TAX AND THEY SHOWED THAT'S A HUGE IF YOU TALK TO THE HOTELIERS IN HILTON HEAD THEY NEED SOMETHING IN THEIR OFF SEASON THAT'S A HARD ASSET FOR SOMEONE TO GO DO THAT'S NOT THE BEACH AND SO I WOULD IMAGINE HILTON HEAD WOULD ALSO BE A CONTRIBUTOR NOT JUST BE COUNTY.

SO TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAD CONTRIBUTED FUNDS SO WE RECOMMENDED THOUGH TO GO LOCAL AS WELL AS TO HILTON HEAD SO WE MOVED ALL THE APPLICANTS YEAR SOMETHING WE DID DO WAS WE TRIED TO KNOW IF IT'S A CITY ORGANIZATION IN TOWN OF BLUFFTON WHATEVER TOWN THERE AND HAVE YOU TALK TO YOUR TOWN HAVE YOU HAVE YOU ASKED THEM FOR A TAX ARE THEY SUPPORTING YOU AS WELL AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T ANY DUPLICATION OF FUNDS.

SO IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR FUNDS FOR MARKETING FOR THIS EVENT AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR HILTON HEAD FUNDS OR THEY BUILT FOR MARKETING FOR THAT SAME EVENT AND IF SO WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT IT. SO WE WEREN'T GIVING DOLLAR FOR THE SAME THING.

GOOD. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

OTHER QUESTIONS SO EVEN I CAN'T SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EVEN ONLINE DO NOT HEAR ANYTHING. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE FOR YOU. THAT'S GREAT. WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO THE AJAX COMMITTEE WE WE HAD A COUPLE OF SEATS THAT ARE VACANT. ONE WE JUST HAD OUR PACKAGE COME THROUGH WAS GREAT. SO WE'RE STILL SHY OF ONE COMMITTEE MEMBER OR WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO MEET PROBABLY IN FEBRUARY BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND APRIL AND WE'D LIKE TO COME BACK TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW WE WANT TO CHANGE THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND YOU MAY WANT TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH FINANCE TEAM WHICH WE WILL DO BUT IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THOSE APPLICATION CHANGES BACK WE CERTAINLY MAY HAVE TO COME BACK AND PRESENT THEM TO YOU SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF CLEAN UP SOME OF THE THE BIGGEST PIECES THEY NEED TO SUBMIT. THE APPLICANTS WHO ARE WATER FUNDS HAVE TO REALLY DO A BETTER JOB OF GIVING US THE POST-EVENT ACTIVITIES AND RESULTS AND THAT REALLY US TO AWARD DOLLARS TO THOSE WHO ARE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE COUNTY FUNDS STATE FUNDS HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THEM SO IT'S SO AWESOME. THIS IS TABERNER YES.

SO I HAD A COUPLE ITEMS AS I MENTIONED BEFORE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US USE SOME ATX FUNDS TO SUPPORT COUNTY REGULATIONS FOR I LOOK AT THIS LIST AND I'M WONDERING WHY WE'RE GIVING MONEY TO THE LOWCOUNTRY OWNERS ASSOCIATION OF WHICH MY MY CITY BELONGS AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WE'RE GIVING DEPENDS ON IF YOU GOT A $2 MILLION GRANT RECENTLY LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE.

I'M JUST WONDERING WHY MORE OF THIS ISN'T BEING USED FOR LOCAL BEAUFORT COUNTY LIKE OUR PARKS AND REC. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE NONE IN HERE FOR THAT AT ALL.

YOU HAVE SYMPHONY IN HERE AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY NONE OF THIS IS FOCUSED AT ALL ON THE COUNTY ITSELF. LET ME ANSWER. YES, SURE.

WELL, WE DID NOT HEAR ANY APPLICANTS FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION.

WE DID HEAR ONE FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND PARKS RECREATION. BEFORE I MISQUOTE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I THINK WE DO NOT RECOMMEND ANY FUNDS FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE I MEAN THEY WERE ALREADY A HIGHLY PROFITABLE EVENT. I MEAN JUST MAKE SURE THAT'S CORRECT. HILTON HEAD ISLAND RECREATION REQUESTED 10,000 WE RECOMMENDED ZERO FUNDING FOR THEM. WE DIDN'T HEAR ANY BEAUFORT COUNTY REQUEST.

WE DID HEAR FROM YOU COUNTY AIRPORTS WHICH TRADITIONALLY WE HAVE NOT AND THIS YEAR WE RECOMMENDED I THINK THE REQUESTED 16 WE RECOMMENDED 50 FOR THE AIRPORT.

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SO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ARE THE SPORTS COUNCIL THAT'S A PROFIT 501 SO THREE THAT WAS FORMED JUST FOR THE RECORD I RECUSE MYSELF FROM THAT I'M ON THAT BOARD.

WE FORMED THAT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS A SPORTS COUNCIL TO GO BEFORE THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA GET SPECIAL GRANTS AND WE CAN USE THOSE MATCHING GRANTS FOR PART OF THEIR PROPOSAL THAT SPORTS COUNCIL PUT FORTH THAT THEY WOULD GO TO DIFFERENT SPORTING EVENTS SORRY MEETINGS AND ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE STATE AND THE GEORGIA NORTH CAROLINA I DON'T THINK ANY IN TENNESSEE AND THEY RECRUIT SPORTING TO COME TO BEAUFORT COUNTY AND USE OUR RECREATION FACILITIES SO THAT IS TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL RECREATION AND THEY WOULD BRING THOSE EVENTS HERE BECAUSE THEY GENERATE A TOURISM RETURN SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. SO THERE IS FUNDS SET ASIDE IT'S NOT A BID FOR COUNTY DEPARTMENT BUT IS WITH INTENT TO BRING RECREATION BACK TO USE OUR BEAUFORT COUNTY FACILITIES SO ONE OF THE 37 YOU HAVE ON ON YOUR DATA THOSE ARE THE 37 THAT CAME TO YOU ASKING FOR MONEY OR THE SOME THAT DID NOT HAVE COMPLETE APPLICATIONS OR HOW THAT ALL FALL OUT SO IF WE SEE A ZERO THEN THAT WAS SOMEONE THAT DID NOT RECEIVE FUNDS BUT IT'S JUST THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FOLKS THAT CAME HERE SO. YES SIR OF THE WHOLE LIST AND THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS IS EVERY APPLICATION AND WE THERE WERE A FEW APPLICANTS BY TECHNICALLY SHOULD HAVE HEARD FROM THAT TO THE POINT WE NEED TO CLEAN UP OUR APPLICATION PROCESS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE REALLY THE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED OVER 200 FOR COMING FROM ALL 37 THIS WAS THEIR TOTAL REQUEST AND THE RECOMMENDED COLUMN. SO LIKE I SAID WE HAD JUST OVER 2.6 MILLION IN REQUEST AND WE WERE RECOMMENDING TO THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT FINANCE COMMITTEE SET OUT OF THIS FUND . AS IT IS YOUR QUESTIONS ARE OKAY PERFECT BUT WE HAVE TO MY QUESTION AGAIN. I MEAN I KNOW CAN WE GIVE MONEY TO THE DMO WHY AREN'T THEY PUTTING FOR SOME OF THIS FOR THESE LOCAL GROUPS INSTEAD OF USING THIS TAX MONEY IN AGAIN WE GAVE TO THE PEN CENTER THEY GOT A $2 MILLION GRANT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LOWCOUNTRY OWNERS BECAUSE PEOPLE MENTIONED THAT SO SOME OF THESE I JUST THINK YES WE OPENED UP THE FUNDS SO TO SPEAK TO WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE. I'M NOT SURE I AGREE WITH EXPENDITURES.

THAT'S MY COMMENT. I UNDERSTAND I BUT YOU DID MENTION PAYNE CENTER AND I DID NOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION SO THE PEN CENTER THEIR REQUEST IS SPECIFIC TO THEIR HERITAGE DAYS FESTIVAL. FORTUNATELY IT JUST HAPPENED BEFORE WE CONVENED LAST TUESDAY SO THEY ACTUALLY HAD SOME REALLY GOOD NUMBERS THEY GENERATED RIGHT AROUND 4000 VISITORS A OH THAT THEY RECOMMEND THEY BELIEVE THAT ROUGHLY THINK I'M HESITANT TO QUOTE BUT ROUGHLY HALF OF THEM WERE TOURISTS AROUND 2000 TOURS SO THEIR REQUEST WAS NOT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF ANYTHING IT WAS FOR MARKETING YEARS DAYS FESTIVALS FOR FOR NEXT YEAR NEXT NOVEMBER AND IT WAS SPECIFIC TO THAT FESTIVAL NOT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF ANY TYPE OF BUILDING WHICH WAS I BELIEVE THE GRANT THEY RECEIVED IN THAT REQUEST THOUGH THERE WAS A $20,000 COMPONENT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S $20,000 AND IT WAS SPECIFIC TO CREATING A TRAIL THAT THEY THOUGHT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIG BENEFIT FOR THIS YEAR HERITAGE DAYS FESTIVAL AND IT WAS TO CLEAR COMPLETE THE TRAIL WHICH WOULD NOT BE A RECURRING FOR FUTURE YEARS IF IT DOES WORK OUT SUCCESSFULLY THAT THEY'RE DOING IN CONJUNCTION THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE IT WAS OKAY 20,000 WAS FOR THE TRAIL PREP THAT'S CORRECT AND 10,000 WAS FOR MARKETING HERITAGE FESTIVAL FOR FOR NEXT YEAR. BUT MR. SULLIVAN IS MORE REDUNDANCY HERE FOR EXAMPLE TOTAL FOR JAIL OF GUNS. ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT HILTON HEAD ITSELF POSE A GREATER DANGER? IT DOESN'T SEE GMO.

I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE REDUNDANCIES THAT ARE FOCUSED ELSEWHERE IS MY POINT.

OKAY, GREAT QUESTION. SO THE DEAL MEADOWS FUNDING THEY ARE THEIR FUNDS ARE FOR THEIR GENERAL MARKETING AND THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THESE ORGANIZATIONS FOR EXAMPLE I WON'T USE CONCOURSE I, I THINK THEY THEY DO THEIR OWN MARKETING.

I WAS FLOORED. I THINK THEIR TOTAL BUDGETS LIKE 1,000,004 MILLION FIVE IT'S A PRETTY BIG ORGANIZATION BUT A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS WORK WITH THE DMO . THEY'LL TAKE THEIR FUNDS AND THEY'LL WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE CVB OR IN THE SOUTHERN RIVER COUNTY. THEY'LL WORK WITH THE CBP AND THEY USE THEIR BUYING POWER TO PLACE THEIR ADS SO THEY HAVE TO COME BEFORE US THE REQUEST

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PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SO THEY'VE GOT ANOTHER GRANT FOR ANOTHER FESTIVAL THAT THE EXACT SAME TIME PERIOD SO WE DIDN'T ANSWER EXACTLY WE DON'T WANT DUPLICATE DOLLARS FOR SUMMER WEEKEND SO THEY'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE TWO FESTIVALS.

THERE'S ONE HAPPENING IN DOWNTOWN BEAUFORT AND THEN THIS ONE AT UCB THEY DIDN'T NEED ALL THOSE DOLLARS BECAUSE THEY THERE'S ALREADY MARKETING DOLLARS TO GO IN PLACE THAT SAME WEEKEND AND THEY CAN WORK WITH THE CVB AND WITH GOLF FESTIVAL IN DOWNTOWN BEAUFORT AND THEN GO THE TRAVELING THEATER TO THEY CAN COMPLETE OUR COMPETE IN USING COMPREHENSIVE MARKETING STRATEGY SO WE GAVE THEM DOLLARS FOR THEIR WEBSITE MARKETING AND FOR ADDITIONAL MARKETING. THEY WILL DO SMALLER EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. DOES THAT ANSWER A QUESTION SO WE DON'T TO GIVE DUPLICATE DOLLARS TO ORGANIZATION THAT'S THE AVERAGE APPLICANT. TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, THERE'S 37 THEY'RE ROUGHLY 20 PAGES ON AVERAGE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF APPLICANTS THAT ARE FIVE OR SIX PAGES. THOSE ARE NOT COMPLETE APPLICANTS BUT YOU'RE COMPLETE APPLICANTS ABOUT 20 PAGES ON AVERAGE SO YOU'RE ABOUT 700 PAGES AND DOCUMENTS TO GO THROUGH AND THEN THROUGH THEIR PRESENTATION ALLOWS US TO REALLY NARROW DOWN WHAT THESE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR . IS THERE ANY DUPLICATE CROSSOVER? AND THEN WE IF WE DON'T AWARD THEM FUNDS WE THEM YOU KNOW WE WANT YOU TO WORK WITH THIS ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING FUNDING FOR THAT SAME TIME PERIOD JUST LIKE WE DID WITH GOLD TRAVELING THEATER GOLF COURSE IN ASSOCIATION WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM A BIG LAST YEAR. I DON'T THINK I HAVE LAST YEAR'S AWARD ON THEIR IDEA. WE GAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE THIS YEAR NOT WHAT THEY REQUESTED THOUGH. I REMEMBER CORRECTING A GOLF COURSE OWNER SORRY MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T WANT TO BRING UP TOO MUCH WANT TO ANSWER HER QUESTION OF GOLF COURSE OWNERS THAT WERE DOWN TO THE BOTTOM FOR REMEMBER YOU HEARD THEM LATE IN THE DAY AND THEN THE THIRD PAGE FIRST PAGE BOTTOM. THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE EASIER LOOKING AT THE EXCEL FOR THE PAGE ON THE BOTTOM TOWARD THE BOTTOM OKAY. WELCOME BACK FROM HILTON HEAD AND. WE'RE LIVING IN 7500. LOOK GOLF IS A BIG ACTIVITY HERE. I KNOW. I KNOW.

GREAT QUESTION THEY'RE ACTUALLY REQUEST I WANT TO SAY IT WAS $30,000.

I'M LOOKING THAT ON THIS OTHER SPREADSHEET HERE SORRY. OH 25,000.

THANK YOU CHRISTINE BRYSON SO THERE ARE ACTUAL REQUESTS. SO LAST YEAR'S ATTACKS FROM HILTON HEAD THAT'S I REMEMBER THAT NOW AND IF I PUT THAT IN MY ACTUAL NOTES HERE BUT LAST YEAR THEY RECEIVED RIGHT AROUND 75,000 HAD A TEXT SO WITH THE INCREASE FOR THIS YEAR'S REQUEST THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE WE THEIR COUNTY FUNDING BECAUSE THEY ALREADY RECEIVED SO MUCH MORE AND IN ACTUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENT THEY PROVIDED THEY WERE DOING FAIRLY WELL I MEAN ADMISSIONS TAXES ARE THROUGH THE ROOF. THEY'VE BEEN WELL FUNDED THROUGH THEIR PRIVATE GOLF PUBLIC GOLF COURSES. SO WE STILL WANTED TO GIVE THEM SOME FUNDS FOR THEIR FOR THEIR GENERAL MARKETING FOR FOR GOLF COURSES BUT WE ACTUALLY DID THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHEN THEY TOLD US WHAT THEIR TAX WAS FOR HILTON HEAD IT'S ENOUGH TO SATISFY THEIR MARKETING BASED ON WHAT THEY DID LAST YEAR IN LAST YEAR'S AWARD $75 WE'RE RECOMMENDING MORE THAN COVERS THEIR TOTAL MARKETING BUT DOES THAT HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ? I HEAR EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING IT STILL LEAVES WITH MY SAME QUESTION. SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. ABSOLUTELY YES, MA'AM.

RIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SULLIVAN.

YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE WE NEED A MOTION TO SUPPORT THIS TIME. IS THERE SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO THE COUNCIL I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE.

NELSON THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MISS BROWN. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? SO MR. CHAIR, WHEN YOU MOVE INTO COUNCIL IS AN ALL OR NOTHING OR PICK AND CHOOSE IT MOVES THE COUNCIL AT ANY WE CAN MAKE CHANGES OR MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND DO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. I THINK IN THE PAST HOWEVER WE HAVE WE HAVE LEFT IT TO OUR OUR OUR BOARD WHO HAS DONE A GREAT JOB FOR SO JUST IN PAST EXPERIENCES YES THERE'S TIMES WE HAVE MADE CHANGES TO IT WE HAVE DONE IT VERY, VERY SELECTIVE RELEASE BECAUSE AGAIN

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SO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ARE VERY LONG EXPANDED WHEN IS IS FACT YES IT STILL CAN BE CHANGED IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COUNCIL TO DO SO WE WILL GET WHAT CHRISTINE WEBB SHOWED US THE THREE YEAR BACK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THAT IN ADVANCE.

YES, WE CAN GET THAT SERVICE SAYING YES THAT CAN BE WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT BEFORE WE ACT. OKAY SO THAT WOULD BE SO AGAIN .

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO JUST MOVING FORWARD? I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY OBJECTIONS THIS WE MOVE FORWARD TO COUNCIL FIRST READING JUST YEAH IT'LL COME FORWARD AT THE DECEMBER MEETING AS A PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS IN ACCORDANCE WITH EXCUSE ME WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE STATE A TEST. OKAY GREAT IF I COULD SO ALL COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS WE WILL LOOK BACK AT THE TWO AND THREE YEAR SPEND.

FORTUNATELY MOST OF US HAVE BEEN ON THIS COMMITTEE. I THINK WAS MY SIXTH OR SEVENTH YEAR SO WE ARE FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF THE APPLICANTS AND OUR REQUEST AND WE ABSOLUTELY LOOK THEIR HISTORICAL SPENDS IF THEY'RE GOOD STEWARDS OF THEIR DOLLARS AND WHERE THEIR OTHER FUNDS COME FROM. SO WE AND I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK IF IF COUNCIL WISH ON A LATER DATE TO PRESENT MORE INFORMATION AND AS RELATES TO ASIAN ATTACKS LOCAL VERY OF 15% AS A HOTELIER WHO WRITES ACCOMMODATIONS TAX REQUEST WORKFORCE HOUSING IS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB GETTING THAT PASSED AND AN EASY AUDIENCE MEMBER.

IT MIGHT JUST BE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD 15% ASIDE SO THAT YOU CAN YOU KNOW, FILL THOSE REQUESTS AS THEY COME AND START BUILDING THE CASH PILE. WE ABSOLUTELY NEED HOUSING WORKFORCE FOR MY HOUSING SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YEAH, I THINK MR. SULLIVAN FOR THE REPORT PARTICULARLY WHERE YOU INCLUDED BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST THESE OTHER ENTITIES THAT ARE FUNDING THOSE PROJECTS. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE IT GIVES A BETTER PICTURE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROJECT ITSELF.

WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

IT IS NOT AN EASY JOB AND OBVIOUSLY NOW TO TRY TO BE MORE AND MORE TRANSPARENT OF WHERE THIS MONEY GOES AND YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AND THIS THIS THIS IS A GREAT REPORT OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN. I THINK YOU HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF SPREADING THE MONEY OUT, KEEPING PEOPLE HAPPY AND MAKING SURE WE TRY TO FUND AS MANY PLACES AS WE CAN.

SO THANK AND THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO FOR US SO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I JUST TAKE ONE QUICK MINUTE TO GO BACK TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LOCAL TAX. SO WHILE WE WERE LISTENING TO STATE TAX BOARD I WENT BACK TO OUR LOCALLY TAXED ORDINANCE AND IT PROVIDES THAT THE FUNDS BE USED FOR ALL OF THESE PURPOSES THAT ARE SET OUT IN THE STATUTE AND WE ENUMERATE THEM HERE BUT THEN FINALLY WE ALSO SAY FOR ALL OTHER PURPOSE ALL OTHER PROPER PERSON PURPOSES INCLUDING THOSE SET FORTH HEREIN. SO I DON'T THINK WE WOULD NEED TO AMEND ORDINANCE. I THINK STATE LAW ALLOWS YOU NOW TO USE THEM FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. SO I THINK YOU COULD YOU COULD GO ON THE LOCAL OR LOCAL STATE TAX ORDINANCE WE WOULD NOT NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING THAT WE'RE GOOD WITH OUR CURRENT WORK ON THE LOCAL LATER LOCAL ON THE LOCAL TAX BUT STATE TAX WOULD STILL NEED TO MAKE THAT DESIGNATION YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL MY CFO IS TELLING ME OTHERWISE SO WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE

[11. DISCUSSION ON FUNDING FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING]

WE'RE ACTUALLY NUMBER 11 AND ARE YOU GOING TO HEAR MR. JOHN ROBINSON DISCUSSION ON FUNDING FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING? YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

THANKS, JONATHAN, FOR THE INTRODUCTION TO WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT WAS REALLY APPROPRIATE. I'M NOT SURE YOU KNEW THAT WAS COMING UP LAST LAST WEEK WE HEARD FROM OUR FINANCE ATTORNEY JEREMY COOK WHO GAVE US LOTS OF OPTIONS LEGAL OPTIONS FOR US TO TO FUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS. I TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT SOME OPTIONS WITHIN THAT COUNTY AND SO TODAY I'M GOING TO BE VERY EXTREME WE BRIEF BASICALLY WE YOU ASKED ME TO GO AND LOOK AT OUR BUDGET AND FIND SOME FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES SPECIFICALLY FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. SO WE HAVE ONE OPTION IS OUR GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE OUR STAFF RECOMMENDED FUNDING IS USE OF ARPA FUNDS WE HAVE ABOUT $5 MILLION RIGHT NOW AND ON PROGRAMED ARPA FUNDS DUE TO SOME UNDER BUDGET PROJECTS OR SOME PROJECTS THAT HAVEN'T ON MATERIALIZED PROJECTS. SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

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I THINK THAT'S GREAT I THINK IT SHOULD BE TOWARD PROJECTS WITH ORAL IN THAT THEY PERHAPS WE HAVE A TASK FORCE OF STAFF AND COUNCIL TO THOSE LIKE WE LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THE GREEN SPACE PROGRAM OF SOME SOME TYPE OF SUBCOMMITTEE SO THAT IT'S FAIR TO ALL AND AND I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE ABSOLUTELY AND I APPRECIATE THAT SOMETHING THAT THAT THE COUNTY STAFF WILL WORK ON HERE IN IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE AS WE BEGIN OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS AND OUR BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS, I WOULD SAY NOT REALLY LONG TERM BUT LONG TERM AS IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS 4 TO 5 MONTHS WE WOULD SEEK TO HIRE FULL TIME EMPLOYEE TO MANAGE OUR WORK WORKFORCE HOUSING INITIATIVE AND WORK WITH SEVERAL WORKFORCE HOUSING GROUPS ALONG WITH THE WORKFORCE HOUSING TRUST FUND THAT WE ALREADY ARE MEMBERS WITH AND OUR AND OUR MEMBER PARTNERS TO HELP CREATE A COUNTY WORKFORCE HOUSING IN UNINCORPORATED COUNTY SO THAT'S A LITTLE MORE LONG TERM THAN THIS SHORT TERM SOLUTION.

SO LONG SO KNOWING THAT WE HAVE HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE IS UP TO THIS COMMITTEE THEN TO A RECOMMENDATION TO GO THEN TO THE COUNCIL THROUGH TO LOOK AT CREATING A FUND FOR THAT IN TERMS OF THAT KNOW YEAH THANKS AND I AGREE WITH YOU HAVE SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM CONSIDERATIONS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING IS A REQUEST FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR FUNDING FOR A SPECIFICALLY WORK IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY WHICH WOULD BE THE STIPULATION THAT ANY MONEY THAT WOULD BE GIVEN TO THEM THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING AS WAS THE PRIORITY FOR FIRST FOUR YEARS I WAS ON COUNCIL NOW I'M IN MY FIFTH YEAR AND STILL A PRIORITY AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN BOTH THE SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM I THINK WE HAVE A VIABLE OPERATOR COMING IN WITH SIGNIFICANT PLAN TO START PUTTING PEOPLE IN BUILDINGS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN SO I'M WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION AS THE CHAIRMAN IN THAT REGARD IF YOU WOULD ENTERTAIN. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE IS A MOTION FOR US TO LOOK AT CREATING A FUND FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. YOU WERE WAS THIS SPECIFIC WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT SENDING MONEY? I WAS GOING MOVE THAT THIS COMMITTEE RECOMMEND TO THE FULL COUNCIL THAT IT PROVIDE FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $600,000 TO THE COASTAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATION THAT THESE FUNDS IN THEIR ENTIRETY WILL BE USED SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSES OF DESIGNING, CONSTRUCT OR PURCHASING WORKFORCE HOUSING IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY THAT THE COUNTY AND THE COASTAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION INTO A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT INSTITUTING THESE AND OTHER TERMS AS THE ADMINISTRATOR DEEMS OUR CIRCULAR MOTION AND I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT. ALL RIGHT.

SO SECOND AND YOU HAVE FIRST DISCUSSION OKAY. I HAVE IS AS WE ALL KNOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE I WAS FIRST ELECTED IN 2015. I DON'T I HAVE A PROBLEM IT GOING TO A SPECIFIC GROUP I DON'T THINK OTHER GROUPS SUCH AS HABITAT HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR SPECIFIC MONEY AND THEY WOULD IN UNINCORPORATED COUNTY.

SO I'D JUST LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT I DON'T MOVE I DON'T SEE WHY THE MOTION HAS TO BE TO MAKE A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION JUST MONEY AND THEN WE CAN WORK OUT IN MORE WAYS WITH WHOEVER APPLIES FOR THAT MONEY. OKAY. IS THERE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK ON THIS SUBJECT AND THIS I GUESS I'M NOT SPEAKING AGAINST THE MOTION.

I THINK ANY KIND OF FAVOR WOULD AS I WOULD JUST SAID BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THERE ARE OTHER AGENCIES I THINK THE $600,000 IS THERE IF IT'S ALL OF 5 MILLION, YOU STILL GET MORE MONEY. I THINK A RECOMMENDATION WHICH WOULD BE MORE INCLUSIVE OF OTHER AGENCIES, OTHER GROUPS TO DEAL WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING STUFF I WOULD BE MORE SUPPORTIVE. SO IF MR. MCCOLLUM WOULD RELAX MOTION JUST TO MOVE US FORWARD

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YES. WITHIN THE END OF THE OF 24 AND SPEND BY 26 I BELIEVE IS 27.

BUT YES OR IS IT 20. YES SIR. OVERSPENT.

OKAY. SO DECEMBER DECEMBER 31ST OF 2026 SO OKAY SO TO ME THAT'S THAT'S AN IMMEDIATE USE OF FUNDS BECAUSE THAT MONEY GOT TO BE IN THE IN THE ECONOMY AND BY A SPECIFIC TIME AND STUFF. SO I WOULD BE THE BE IN FAVOR OF THAT PARTICULARLY IF WE'RE GOING TO USE OUR FUNDS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO DESIGNATE THOSE FUNDS AND THEN GET IT INTO THE ECONOMY IS HAPPY. YES. SO I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT IT TO JUST ONE GROUP. I WANT TO BROADEN IT SO THEY CAN BE USE IN OTHER AREAS.

I HAVE A COMMENT BUT I'LL WAIT AND SEE WHAT ELSE THAT HAS A COMMENT ON THIS.

GO AHEAD. I AGREE WITH MS. HOWEVER MR. GLOVER I WOULD NOT PUT IT FOR A PARTICULAR GROUP I WOULD OPEN IT UP FOR IN GENERAL SO WE CAN HAVE A BROADER PERSPECTIVE.

ALL RIGHT. AND LET ME ADD THIS I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION.

I'M JUST OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION IS IS THINKING OF TRYING TO DO A COMPROMISE HERE. I MEAN RIGHT NOW WE WE WE ARE THE COMMITTEE DECIDING WHERE MONEY GOES AND WHETHER WE DECIDE TO SPEND ALL THE MONEY. BUT I THINK THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE SOME THINGS FORWARD FOR THIS ORGANIZATION. BUT IF WE COULD TAKE WHATEVER AMOUNT IT IS THAT WE CAN DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD AND THEN ALSO THEN TAKE WHAT WAS OURS AND SET UP A COMMITTEE, GET PEOPLE READY TO GO SO OTHER PEOPLE CAN APPLY AND WHATEVER AMOUNTS THAT IS WE WOULD THEN MAKE AVAILABLE BUT BUT IS THE ONE SIDE OF IT MR. MCCALL IS EXACTLY RIGHT IS WE KEEP KICKING THE CAN THE ROAD AND MR. LOGAN CUNNINGHAM ALWAYS USES THAT WORD THAT WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AND, GIVE SOME MONEY TO KEEP THINGS GOING AND THEN HAVE ADDITIONAL MONIES THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE THEN BY COMMITTEE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS THAT MISS OUR TALKED ABOUT WITH THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE A COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE LOOK AT APPLICATIONS CREATE AN APPLICATION SYSTEM AND MR. KENNEDY, I SEE YOU LOOKING OVER HERE LIKE YOU I'M THINKING MY HEAD IS YOU TAKE THESE THINGS OFF.

YEAH EXACTLY RIGHT. WELL, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO I MEAN DIFFERENT FROM MR. MCKELLEN'S EXACTLY THE TWO DIFFERENT PARTS. WELL IT'S REALLY NOT DIFFERENT.

THIS IS JUST A SHORT TERM APPLICATION. WE HAVE A VIABLE GROUP BEEN HERE THREE TIMES ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE. WE KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

THEY A TRACK RECORD WE'VE WE'VE LISTENED TO THEM WE'VE SENT IT TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES WE, SENT IT TO THE COUNCIL. WE SENT BACK THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND NOW WE SENT IT FINANCE. WE COULD DO THIS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS BUT WE HAVE A VIABLE GROUP AND IT'S $600,000 OUT OF AN AVAILABLE AMOUNT OF FIVE 5 MILLION.

I DON'T THINK THAT I'M TRYING TO SAY NO ONE SHOULD PUT A TASK FORCE TOGETHER FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION BUT NOTHING HAS STOPPED ANYBODY FROM ASKING FOR MONEY THIS CAME IN WITH A PROGRAM ASK FOR THE ASSISTANCE AND I'D LIKE SEE THEM GET THAT ASSISTANCE IN THE SHORT TERM.

SEE THEY PERFORM AND IF THEY PER GIVING THEM FUNDS.

BUT I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE COME IN AND ALSO ASK FOR MONEY.

I'M DEALING SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS GROUP THAT HAVE BEEN BEFORE US THREE TIMES ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE. I DO NOT WANT TO PUSH THIS OFF TO START TASK FORCE TO SEE WHO ELSE MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN DOING IN BEAUFORT COUNTY SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.

I, I WASN'T SAYING INSTEAD OF I WAS SAYING I UNDERSTAND YOU WONDERED GOING TWO DIRECTIONS ONE IS THE SHORT TERM FUNDING FOR THIS VIABLE GROUP AND THEN CREATE A TASK FORCE TWO TO CONSIDER WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY AND I CAN INCORPORATE THAT IN A MOTION TO SUGGEST THAT WE FUND THIS SHORT TERM AND THEN INSTITUTE PROCEDURES TO DIRECT THE EXECUTIVE STAFF TO FORM A TASK FORCE TO INVESTIGATE HOW MIGHT FURTHER ASSIST OTHER GROUPS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THE FUTURE TO CREATE SOME WORKFORCE HOUSING. ALL RIGHT.

WELL LET'S MAKE SO LET'S MAKE SURE WITH WHAT MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR WE'RE STILL IN RIGHT NOW YOU'RE ON YOUR YOUR FIRST MOTION. RIGHT? RIGHT. WE'RE WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION .

SO LET'S NOTE I THINK COUNCILMAN ALLEN, YOU MISUNDERSTAND ME.

HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HAS BEEN HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. THERE ARE OTHER VERY GOOD GROUPS TO DO IT. IT SEEMS LIKE BECAUSE THEY CAME TO US THREE TIMES BUT HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HAS BEEN BEFORE US BEFORE WE DID GIVE THEM IN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY MONEY FOR THEIR HOOKUPS FOR BEAUFORT, JASPER SEWER WATER AUTHORITY AND THE HOUSES THAT THEY HAVE

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I JUST DON'T WANT US TO SEEM LIKE WE'RE BEING PREFERENTIAL AND NOT FAIR.

THESE OTHER GROUPS SUCH AS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IN COUNTY HABITAT FOR HUMANITY THEY'RE OTHER GROUPS TOO. I CAN'T THINK OF THEM AT THE TIME.

$600,000 IS A HUGE SHOT IN THE ARM FOR ANY ORGANIZATION AND IT WOULD BE GREAT AND I DON'T APPLICATIONS WOULD NECESSARILY BEING ONEROUS I JUST THINK WE SHOULD BE FAIR AND YOU KNOW YES THEY'VE BEEN HERE THREE TIMES HABITAT HAS BEEN BEFORE US AND SO IS THE AUTHORITY AND YEARS PAST AND WE DID WHAT WE COULD WITH WITH THE HOOKUPS AND WE DID THOSE IN INCORPORATED AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS THE HOOKUPS TO BE FOR CASPIR FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER SO I SO THE ANY MORE DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THAT WE GIVE THE $600,000 TO THE UNITS THAT COASTAL COMMUNITY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION I GUESS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE A VOTE THEN FOR THAT AND MAKING A CALL THE THE AMENDMENT PROPOSAL THEY WILL MAKE A LIMIT TO THE I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT THAT IT BE GIVEN TO THAT GROUP OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN IMMEDIATELY PRESENT WHAT THEIR PLAN MIGHT BE. SO IT WOULD BE THE WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE GROUP SEE THE COASTAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CD OR OTHER GROUPS ARE PREPARED TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY. SO WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT AMENDMENT? ALL RIGHT.

THERE IS NO SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT. SO THAT AMENDMENT FAILS.

WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT WHICH IS THE $600,000 .

LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE AND SARAH PLEASE VICE CHAIR ALLEN YES, COUNCILMEMBER HOWARD, I HAVE NEVER VOTED ANYTHING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS FAIR AND I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT. NO COUNCILMEMBER BROWN YES.

CHAIRMAN PARLIAMENT IT ON TO SAY YES. COMMITTEE VICE CHAIR TAVERNER NO COUNCILMEMBER BARTHOLOMEW YES. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER NO.

COMMITTEE CHAIR LAWSON MARK LAWSON SAYS YES. THE MOTION PASSES 5 TO 3.

ALL RIGHT SO NOW IS THERE A A SECOND MOTION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE THAT TO CREATE THE TASK FORCE IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO HANDLE THE DIFFERENCE I I I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION OKAY SO MAKE THE MOTION 18 SHORT LOOK IT QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE A TASK FORCE TO LOOK AT HOW TO USE THE BALANCE OF HOW MANY DOLLARS IS LEFT AFTER 6000 IN THE ARPA FUNDS THAT ARE THERE WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO SET UP AN AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK FOR TOM OR HOW IS THAT? I MEAN I KNOW WHAT THE MOTION IS. WELL I WAS HOPING TO PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT IN A PROCESS TO PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON THE AMOUNT OF ARPA FUNDS THERE.

SO THIS WELL NEVER MIND WELL HOW WE CAME UP WITH 600,000 FOR THIS GROUP OKAY I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE USE POSSIBLY ARE FROM FUNDS OR GENERAL FUND MONEY FOR A TASK FORCE LOOK AT APPLICATIONS AND FOR UNINCORPORATED COUNTY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO IS THAT ENOUGH? SO THAT A MOTION THAT'S A MOTION IS A MOTION TO SET UP A TASK FORCE TO ASK THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO SET UP A TASK FORCE TO INVESTIGATE THE POSSIBILITY OF USING HOW MUCH AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ADDITIONAL ARPA FUNDS OR, WORKFORCE HOUSING OR AUTO FUNDS OR OTHER FUNDS BUT ARPA OR OTHER FUNDS LOOK WORKFORCE HOUSING JOB WHATEVER AND IT'S THE MOTION MOTION AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION NOW? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE ON THE TASK FORCE THAT I WILL HAVE TO DECIDE THIS POINT UNLESS WE INTERACT DIFFERENTLY WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME WORK SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME WORK TO TO BEGIN TO CREATE A WHOLE OUTLINE OF WHAT WHAT OUR OBJECTIVES ARE, WHAT OUR OUTCOMES ARE, WHO WHO NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS MISSION OR HOW LONG YOU THINK THAT'LL TAKE? WELL, WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF MONTHS. YEAH MAYBE FEBRUARY MARCH WE CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT'S THEN YOU BRING THAT IN AND PRESENT IT TO EVERYBODY AND THEN AFTERWARD TIME WILL PASS

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YES, SIR. SO MAYBE SOMETIME IN THE SUMMER IN IN IN IN THE INTERIM IN THE INTERIM I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, OTHER OTHER FOLKS THAT THEY COME IN AND WE'D HAVE TO BRING THEM TO COUNCIL AND ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, INDEPENDENTLY I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE GLOOM AND DOOM. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH. YES, MR. ASPEN, IF I HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION AS I WOULD LIKE IT TO SAY I MOVE THAT THIS COMMITTEE RECOMMEND TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL THAT IT PROVIDE FUNDS WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS THAT THESE FUNDS IN THEIR ENTIRETY USED SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSES OF DESIGNING CONSTRUCT AND OR PURCHASING WORKFORCE HOUSING UNQUOTE RATED BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THAT THE COUNTY AND ANY DEVELOPER ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT THESE AND OTHER TERMS AS THE ADMINISTRATOR DEEMS APPROPRIATE. IT'S SAYING THE SAME THING WE JUST GAVE $600,000. IT DOESN'T SAY WE HAVE TO CREATE A TASK FORCE.

IT DOES SAY THEY CAN COME IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY TO DO.

MAKE A COMMENT. YES. SO WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT.

THOSE ARE IS THAT A IS THAT A MOTION TO AMEND? YES, THAT'S A MOTION TO AMEND RESERVE SECOND TO THE MOTION TO AMEND I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY.

SO NOW DISCUSSION OH FORGET WE HAVE THE BEAUFORT JASPER HOUSING TRUST FUND SEPARATE AND APART IT IS SEPARATE BUT WE SHOULDN'T BE WORKING PRODUCTIVE TO THEM.

THIS IS USE OF OUR COUNTY IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT I UNDERSTAND BUT WE HAVE PLEDGED MONEY TO IT NOT PLEDGED. WE HAVE SAID WE WOULD TRY. WE WOULD IF WE CAN FIND IT TOO WELL WE JUST GAVE 600,000 NOT TO THE COUNTY, NOT TO JASPER HOUSING TRUST NO, BUT WE JUST VOTED TO APPROVE A $600,000 EXPENDITURE TO MOVE THAT COUNTY COUNCIL.

I DON'T I'M NOT CONNECTING THE DOTS. IS THIS IN MY WAY REGARDING IT TO OUR FUTURE DOLLARS IT'S JUST WHAT THE FUTURE SAID I MEAN WHAT THEY SAID THAT'S WHAT WE JUST VOTED ON THE $600,000 FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WAS ANOTHER MOTION ON THE FLOOR WHICH WERE YOU AMENDING THAT MOTION? NO, IT WAS AMENDING TO YOUR MOTION TO CREATE A YOU WERE MEANING MY MOTION CORRECT TO DO IN MOTION FOR ANY ORGANIZATION THAT COMES TO US ON THE BASIS OF THIS WHAT I JUST READ THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A TASK FORCE TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. WE ALREADY SPECIFIED WE CAN SHORT CIRCUIT THE PROCESS FOR OUR FUTURE APPLICANTS OTHER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANT TO COME TO US FOR MONEY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING TO ANY. OKAY. UNDERSTAND YOUR MOTION.

I'M SORRY REREAD IT PLEASE. OKAY I MOVE THAT THIS RECOMMEND TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL THAT IT PROVIDE FUNDING WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS I HAVE NOT SPECIFIED HOW MANY FUNDS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE COMING. I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY. THESE FUNDS IN THEIR ENTIRETY WILL BE USED FOR THE PURPOSES OF DESIGNING, CONSTRUCTING AND OR PURCHASING WORKFORCE HOUSING IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THAT THE COUNTY AND ANY DEVELOPER WILL ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT MEMORIALIZING THESE AND OTHER TERMS AS THE ADMINISTRATOR DEEMS APPROPRIATE WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE JUST SAID FOR THE 600,000 AND IN YOUR MOTION SO THAT WE WOULD THEN BECOME THE COMMITTEE AS OPPOSED TO CREATING A COMMITTEE WOULD BE ASKED THAT WHENEVER SOMEONE COMES FORWARD ASKS FOR MONEY WE WOULD THEN DECIDE 11 PEOPLE OR THIS COMMITTEE GO TO COUNCIL AND AFTER THAT YEAH SO THE THE OH I WITHDRAW MY MOTION COMPLETELY OKAY AND YOU CAN MAKE YOUR MOTION THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION SO. YOUR MOTION IS ON THE MOTION GET YOU TO GET A SECOND IT'S LIKE A DOG CHASING MY TAIL AROUND TOWN SO WORK HAS TO DO THEN IT'S SEMANTICS. YES, THAT'S FINE. AND MR. GLOVER NEEDS TO WITHDRAW HIS SO YOU PROBABLY WILL JUDGE OR WITHDRAW MY MY SECOND BUT LET ME SAY THIS THAT I AM I HAVE PROBLEM WITH COUNCIL BEING IN CHARGE OF POLICIES THAT POLICIES BUT

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THE SAME THING BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH INDIVIDUALS CONTRACTORS.

I WANT THE ADMINISTRATION TO KIND OF BE THAT CLEARING HOUSE FOR ME.

BUT I'M WILL MY MOTION AND HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD EVENTUALLY WE GET ALL THIS SORTED OUT FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING IF I MAY. THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I PROPOSED IT. IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME DIRECTLY. THIS COMMITTEE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO FUNNEL THEM AND SAY WE HAVE A DEVELOPER A, B, C OR JUST DEVELOPER OR JUST DEVELOPER C AND SAY COMMITTEE.

OKAY NOW WILL YOU APPROVE THIS ONE THE COUNTY COUNCIL BECAUSE IT EVENTUALLY HAS TO GO TO COUNTY COUNCIL. IT COMES THROUGH OUR COMMITTEE. THAT'S WHERE THE HARD WORK IS DONE. ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO DO THE HARD WORK.

I THINK THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT THAT JUST OCCURRED WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. WE SEEN THIS COMMITTEE COMMITTEE BACK THEN AND THEN IT WAS REFERRED BACK TO THE STAFF TO SEARCH FOR PLACES FOR FUNDING.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. WE KNOW I'M NOT TOO SURE THE ADMINISTRATION IS RECOMMENDING THIS GROUP THAT YOU YOU ADVOCATING FOR AT THIS TIME. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR AND SO YEAH WELL ADMINISTRATION WOULD COME FORWARD WITH A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH AN MOA WITH THAT ORGANIZATION THAT INCLUDES STIPULATION THAT COUNCIL ASK FOR SO WITHIN PROPERTIES OR WITHIN WITHIN OF ALLOCATED THE FUNDS THAT'S ALL WE'RE IN OUR WE'RE IN OUR INFANCY OKAY AND WE'RE TAKING WE'RE TAKING BABY STEPS TOWARDS AND THAT'S WORKFORCE HOUSING YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY FORWARD WITH WHAT HAS HAPPENED BUT IN THE FUTURE I'M HOPING THAT THAT RECOMMENDATION WOULD HAVE COME FROM YOU WITH ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN WILL YOU EXCEL? SO I CERTAINLY THINK WE CAN DO THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE THEN A MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT'S BEEN SECONDED BY MR. NO YES. YES.

AND IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT? I JUST I WOULD LIKE TO ONE MORE COMMENT. WE DO HAVE AN UMBRELLA I'M GOING TO BEAT THAT DRUM AGAIN CALLED THE BEAUFORT JASPER HOUSING TRUST FUND AND WE NEED TO USE THEM FOR LEVERAGE, USE THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYONE THAT COMES TO US ASKING US FOR MONEY HAS PURSUED ALL AVENUES OF OTHER DOLLARS. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS GROUP IS GETTING ANY MONEY FROM HILTON HEAD DOWN HILTON HEAD OR NOT I HOPE THEY ARE AND ALSO EXPLORE OTHER LEVERAGING THINGS LIKE MONEY THAT WE COULD GET FROM THE STATE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT'S JUST A COMMENT. BUT I WOULD DEPEND ON THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN IN ANY WAY THAT COMES BEFORE US FOR ANY ORGANIZATION WORKING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING ARE IN MORE DISCUSSION. LET'S CALL THE QUESTION LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL VOTE AGAIN. CHAIRMAN LATHAM YES.

VICE CHAIR MACALLAN YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER HOWARD YES. COUNCILMEMBER BROWN YES.

COMMITTEE VICE-CHAIR TAVERNER YOU'RE ON MUTE. I CAN SEE YOUR MOUTH GO.

YES, YES. COUNCILMEMBER BARTHOLOMEW YES. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER YES.

THE CHAIR SAYS YES CHAIR LAWSON ON THE MOTION PASSES IT THANK YOU.

GREAT THANK YOU MR. ROBERTSON. THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THAT ACTUALLY WENT I GUESS GOOD TO GET WHERE WE ARE SO AGAIN. LET'S MOVE ON AND I KNOW WE'RE GETTING A HERE FOR NEXT YEAR

[13. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE DECLARING CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 MULLET STREET AS SURPLUS PROPERTY, AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY DOCUMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE SALE OF THE REAL PROPERTY, AND ALLOCATING PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF REAL PROPERTY]

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ANY QUESTION WHAT DO YOU MEAN PUT UP A FOR BID? IT WOULD BE PUBLICLY AUCTIONED SO ONCE THE PROPERTY IS DEEMED SURPLUS OR IS DEEMED SURPLUS BY THE COUNTY WE DO HAVE A WEBSITE THAT WOULD BE PUT UP. THE PUBLIC WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO PLACE BIDS ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE PURCHASE. WE JUST GOING TO SELL THAT HOUSE JUST THE HOUSE THE REST OF THE LAND CORRECT. PARKING LOT OR ALSO LANDING. SO THE ENGINEERING PLANS HAVE NOT BEEN FINALIZED YET BUT YOU WILL SEE HERE THE ORIGINAL THE CURRENT LANDING IS 0.64 ACRES ON THE SOUTHERN WHERE THE IS. THANK YOU. CORRECT.

THANK YOU. AND THE NEW PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY HALF AN ACRE SO WE WOULD BE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL HALF ACRE OF PARKING AS WELL AS ANY OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS FROM THE ENGINEERING PLANS. SO WE'RE JUST SOUTH OF THAT HOUSE, CORRECT OR KEEPING THE REST OF THE LAND? CORRECT.

AND WE DID HAVE THE PROPERTY WE SURVEYED IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURVEY THAT'S IN THE BACK OF THIS AREA HAS UP ON THE SCREEN AND WE RELOCATE THIS AT THE SOUTHERN POVERTY OF THE HOUSE PROPERTY MOVED IT NORTH A LITTLE BIT SO THAT A CLEANER STRAIGHT LINE JUST SO THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT AND I KNOW WE PURCHASED THIS BUT GOING TO APPRECIATE EVERYONE ON COUNCIL BUYING THIS BECAUSE AGAIN IT WILL NEVER COME UP FOR SALE AGAIN IT WILL NOT EXPAND THAT LANDING. IT'S A ONCE IN A LIFETIME THING AND I YOU YOU'LL HEARD ME SAY THAT SO I'VE HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT SAY OKAY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NOW? AND I KEPT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO WAIT FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF BECAUSE THERE'S THREE THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN. ONE IS IS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND SELL THE HOUSE, RECOUP SOME OF OUR MONEY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY.

TWO WOULD BE FOR US TO PUT A RENTER IN THERE AND RENT IT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND HOPEFULLY WHAT TO DO LATER ON. AND THE THIRD THING TO DO WOULD BE TO TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN AND AND DEVELOP IT AND I KNOW WHY THE NEIGHBORS DOWN THERE HAVE ASKED AND I'VE HEARD MORE PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY'D LIKE IT TO REMAIN A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING AND ASKED TO SELL AND I KEPT ON SAYING WE'LL WAIT FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR STAFF.

SO AS WE'RE COMING YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR US TO THE USABLE PROPERTY AND THEN PUT THE REST OF IT BACK ON THE MARKET TO SELL TO TO RECOUP SOME OF OUR MONEY AND USE THAT MONEY THEN BACK IN FOR THE OLD JOY LANDING'S CORRECT TO BE FOR THE BOAT LANDING EXTENSIONS AND ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THAT SURROUNDING AREA FOR INSTANCE THE BEDROOM EACH YEAR APPRAISAL ON THE HOUSE WE DO WE DID RECEIVE AN THE APPRAISAL AND WE ALSO RECEIVED THE INSPECTION REPORT ON THE HOME ALL WITHIN THE LAST 15 DAYS. THE APPRAISAL CAME IN $1.2 MILLION. WE PURCHASED IT IN APRIL FOR 965,000.

THE APPRAISAL THOUGH DOES INCLUDE THE INSPECTION REPORT. TYPICALLY AN APPRAISAL IS NOT GOING TO THE TWO COMING TOGETHER SO WE WOULD BE SELLING IT AT THE FAIR MARKET VALUE OF A RECORD AS OF RIGHT NOW IT DID COME IN AT AN APPRAISAL FROM A LICENSED APPRAISER AT 1.2 MILLION. SO HOW DOES COUNTY SELL PROPERTY? DO WE HAVE A WEBSITE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SET UP BY DEPARTMENT? WE'VE ALREADY I GUESS TWO THREE YEARS AGO SEVERAL OF THE MEMBERS ON COUNCIL WERE HERE AT THAT TIME WE DEEMED SIX PROPERTY SURPLUS PROPERTY. WE SAID THAT THEY WERE ADVERTISED THROUGH THE PAPER AT WHICH POINT WE TAKE BIDS FOR APPROXIMATELY 45 DAYS AND THEY ARE REVIEWED BY ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF FOR THE PURPOSES THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THE ORDINANCE.

WHAT PART OF MINISTRY IT WOULD BE THE INTERIM KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVE.

ANY DECISION COMES BACK TO US TO MAKE THAT DECISION SO IT WOULD BE OUR DECISION IF WE SOLD IT AND THE ORDINANCE HAS WRITTEN HERE IT DOES STATE THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR IS GOING THEY ARE COMBINED INTO ONE SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOLD AT THE FAIR MARKET VALUE CONTINGENT ON THE STATE CODE THAT STATES IT HAS TO BE SOLD AT FAIR VALUE AND HE WOULD BE GIVING HIM THE ABILITY TO SIGN ALL DOCUMENTS AND SELL THE PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.

I UNDERSTAND YOU SAY IT WON'T BE SOLD BELOW FAIR MARKET VALUE.

THAT IS CORRECT FAIR MARKET VALUE IS NOT CAN'T BE BELOW THE APPRAISAL PRICE THOUGH AND THAT

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SO IF THERE'S AN INSPECTION REPORT SAYING IT NEEDS $200,000 IN REPAIRS THEN IT WOULD BE $1,000,000 CORRECTION. YES. OR IS THIS THE PROPERTY IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THAT THE THE HOUSE AND THE WAS THIS THE PROPERTY THAT HAD THE HAD A DOC I DON'T GET IF YOU READ THE SURVEY LINE STRAIGHT THROUGH CORRECT OF IT SO THAT'S THE SURVEY THAT I ATTACH AS AN EXHIBIT OR AS A BACKUP. WE'VE MOVED THE PROPERTY LINE NORTH TO OUR TO THE COUNTY'S BENEFIT FOR BETTER ACCESS INTO THE L.A. PROPERTY AND THAT INCLUDES THE PORTION OF THE HOUSE THAT MR. GLOVER WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT OVER THE PROPERTY LINE NO FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE GOING INTO THE OTHER LOT I THINK FOR THE PROPERTY LINE THAT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF IT I AM UNAWARE THERE'S NO SURVEY LINE AND IS THAT IT? ALMOST LIKE WE BOUGHT THE PORTION OF THIS PORCH OR SOMETHING IN THAT PROPERTY DEAL BUT I'M SORRY I'M NOT AWARE THE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE TAKEN THE NEW SURVEY THAT WE HAD DONE THAT WAS COMPLETED RECENTLY OUR PLANNING ZONING DEPARTMENT HAS LOOKED OVER IT AS WELL SO WE'VE ENSURED THAT THE MOVEMENT OF ANY OF THE PROPERTY LINES WITHIN THIS CORRECT SUBJECT I THINK WE JUST HAD A GIS I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE OH YEAH OKAY IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A GAS MIX UP AND ASK YOU THIS THEN DID WE BUY THE HOUSE AS WELL AS WE DID IT WAS WE JUST WENT AFTER THE PROPERTY SO WE DID BUT WE BOUGHT BOTH THE VACANT LAND THAT'S IN FRONT OF IT AS WELL AS THE HOME AND THE FAMILY DIDN'T WANT TO SEPARATE THE TWO GOT WELL I JUST ASKED OKAY THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE IS NOT FULLY ON WELL CORRECT THAT PROBLEM WAS OKAY RIGHT OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THOSE ARE SEALED. THAT'S CORRECT THEY ARE ON WELL THEY ARE SEALED AS FAR AS WHEN THEY COME IN THERE IS NOT A PUBLIC RECORD.

NO CLEARLY FOR I WOULD SAY THAT ONCE THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN SOLD IT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO HAVE A MOTION THEN MOVE FORWARD TO MOVE THERE A SECOND. A SECOND.

THAT'S LIKE ANY MORE DISCUSSION. JUST ONE QUICK ONE WHEN EVEN WHEN IS A SEALED COUNCIL CAN STILL REJECT THE BID RIGHT OR IS IT FINAL THE ORDINANCE THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU WOULD GET THE AUTHORITY OVER TO THE COUNTY OR THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO TAKE THE BIDS, MAKE THE DECISION AS OF THE COUNTY AND SIGN ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO SELL THE PROPERTY SO IT WILL NOT COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT POINT.

MY QUESTION IS THAT THEN THE CAN THE REJECT THE BIDS? YES IF HYPOTHETICALLY IF WE RECEIVED 20 BIDS FOR THIS PROPERTY AND THE ADMINISTRATOR WILL REVIEW ALL BIDS, HE WILL REVIEW THEM BASED ON TWO ASPECTS ONE IS GOING TO BE THE PURCHASE OR THE PURCHASE PRICE.

YEAH THE MONEY AS WELL AS THE USE OF THE PROPERTY THEN WE SHOULD RECEIVE AND ADMINISTRATION REJECT THOSE. YES SORRY MY ANSWER IS YES THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR LOOKS AT 20 BIDS AND ALL 20 OF THEM ARE FOR $100,000. HE CAN SAY WE'RE NOT SELLING THIS ONE I'LL BE SURE TO SAY YES. THE GOAL IS TO MAKE THE COUNTY WHOLE THE 965 AS WELL AS I HAVE ALSO ADDED IN THE AUDIENCE THAT SAYS THE PURPOSE OF THE PURCHASE CAN BE TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION TO MR. SHERMAN'S POINT THE COMMUNITY HAS A DESIRE TO KEEP A HOME THERE SO IF THAT CAN BE TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION AS WELL YEAH I HEAR A GOOD DISCUSSION. NO I RIGHT SO WE HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE MOTION WE HAVE ON THE FLOOR SEEING NO OBJECTION THIS MOVE BE PASSED WITHOUT OBJECTION.

NOW THIS IS JUST GO TO COUNSEL THEN FOR A IS THIS A RESOLUTION OR IT IS AN ORDINANCE SO

[14. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE BEAUFORT COUNTY EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK]

THANK YOU MS. WORD. LET'S MOVE ON THAT NUMBER RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THAT BE FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK AND MASCOT FOR ME AND OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR. THANK YOU FOR COMING. YES, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN RECEIPT OF THE NEW DRAFT HANDBOOK ALONG WITH AN EXTENSIVE LIST OF SOME MAJOR CHANGES THAT WE DID. OUR TEAM HAS BEEN FOR SEVERAL MONTHS ON THIS PROJECT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COLLABORATION OUR ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR THEIR FEEDBACK AND I'M REALLY JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

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WE'VE ALSO A WHISTLE BLOWER POLICY. WE ARE MAKING A MINOR IN OUR GRIEVANCE HEARING POLICY TOO WHEREAS IF THE GRIEVANCES AGAINST THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THOSE FINDINGS AND RESULTS FROM THE COMMITTEE WILL ACTUALLY GO TO THE CHAIRMAN OF COUNTY COUNCIL FOR DETERMINATION AND WE'VE ALSO EXTENDED OUR BEREAVEMENT LEAVE TO OUR EMPLOYEES FROM THREE DAYS PER YEAR TO FIVE DAYS PER OCCURRENCE WE'VE ADDED A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN BUSINESS ETHICS POLICY TO THE HANDBOOK.

WE'VE ALSO ADDED CONFIDENTIAL COUNTY INFORMATION POLICY. WE SOME UPDATES TO OUR EMERGENCY DISASTER POLICY AND HAD MORE EXTENSIVE PAY POLICY ATTACHED TO THAT SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR ON THE PAY THAT IS INVOLVED WITH EMERGENCY DISASTER EVENTS AND ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE COORDINATED WITH OUR RISK MANAGEMENT TEAM.

WELL THIS ONE WAS NOT ON THE LIST. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE HOW I THAT THEY COORDINATED THE RISK MANAGEMENT TO ENSURE IT DOESN'T GO AGAINST ANY OF OUR POLICIES OR VEHICLE COVERAGE BUT WE ARE GOING TO FORGO A MANDATORY POSTING ACCIDENT DRUG SCREENS UNLESS THE EMPLOYEE IS AT FAULT . RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SEVERAL NON AT FAULT THAT WE ARE REQUIRING THEM TO GO DO SCREENINGS AND IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

THERE'S SOME OF THE MAJOR HIGHLIGHTS AGAIN WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED SO I'M JUST GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.

ALL RIGHT. WE FOR APPROVAL OF THIS AND IT WOULD GO TO COUNCIL AS A FOR ONE READING SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A GREAT OVERHAUL. I THINK LOOKING AT PAST BUT I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS ONE THE WHISTLEBLOWER IN SECTION THAT'S ON PAGE 14 I THINK THE REPORTING CHAIN OF THAT IF THERE'S IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH A SUPERVISOR MAYBE THE PERSON IS BEING ON REPORT THEN I THINK THEY'RE NEED I THINK THAT NEEDS SOME CHANGES THE WAY IT'S OUTLINED BASED ON SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE FIRM THAT IS WORKING WITH US ON OUR INVESTIGATIONS. ARE YOU ARE YOU ARE YOU LOOKING AT 1.6 WHISTLEBLOWER ON SIX PAGE 17 OR THE COMPLAINTS SO WE HAVE TO SEPARATE 1.6 OKAY.

BECAUSE THIS ONE THE REPORTING WOULD GO TO THE COUNTY AND WHAT HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR MIGHT BE ON REPORT I'M DOING I'M SURE YEAH THANK YOU. I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE IT BE ANNOUNCED YOU KNOW WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH AND FIRM NOW THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY THIS IS WORST CASE. I DON'T MEAN THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN BUT IF THEY HAD AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY THAT IS NOT PART OF THE COUNTY CHAIN OF COMMAND SO OKAY WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S JUST A COMMENT I HAD AND THEN ON THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT KIND OF THE SAME THING THAT'S POINT THAT 1.7 NO IT IS A LITTLE MORE IT'S THE 1.5 IS THE COMPLAINT PROCEDURE KIND OF THE SAME SAME THING? OKAY.

ON THAT AND OTHER TO OTHER REMARKS, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT Y'ALL HAVE CHANGED HOW COUNTY EMPLOYEES CAN OR CANNOT BE INVOLVED AND HOW POLITICAL. YES YOU DO REFERENCE THE HATCH ACT. DO YOU PLAN TO HOLD THEM TO THE FEDERAL HATCH ACT? IS THAT THE INTENTION I MEAN AS MENTIONED THE INTENTION IS IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO THAT ENSURE THAT THEY ARE ELIGIBLE IF THEY DECIDE TO RUN OR PROVIDE FUNDING.

AND THAT'S THAT'S A I MEAN I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HATCH ACT BEING A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE AND I JUST WONDERED HOW WAS THAT GOING TO WORK FOR A COUNTY EMPLOYEE IF THAT THROUGH THAT'S FINE. BUT THAT'S MY QUESTION. BRITTANY, IN YOUR FRONT YARD IF YOU'RE A COUNTY EMPLOYEE UNDER I AS AS A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE I'M LOOKING WAY BECAUSE HE WAS 12I NEVER DID OR COULDN'T YEAH YOU COULDN'T AND YOU COULDN'T THERE WAS SOME REALLY RESTRICT ON THAT OKAY YOU MIGHT LET US LET US BACK AND TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.

AND THEN ONE OTHER THING TRAINING I DIDN'T IF I MISSED A POINT POINTED OUT TO ME BUT I DO THINK. COUNTY EMPLOYEES NEED TRAINING ON SEXUAL AND WHISTLEBLOWING EVEN IF IT'S JUST A HALF HOUR LIKE WE DO FOR OUR COMPUTER FISHING AND UNDERSTAND HOW HOW YOU CAN BE HACKED ON YOUR COMPUTER EVEN IF IT'S SOMETHING THEY DO LIKE THAT I THINK WE

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WE CAN ALWAYS CONSIDER MAKING IT EVEN PART OF OUR HANDBOOK MANUAL.

WE DO HAVE COMPLIANCE TRAINING THAT INCLUDES SEXUAL HARASSMENT LIKE YOU SAID I.T. SECURITY.

MM HMM. OKAY I DON'T RECALL THE ID BUT I DON'T RECALL HAVING TO DO THE OTHER WELL AND WE THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD THING WE HAVE IN OUR OFFICE WE DO HAVE A TRAINING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM AND IT WILL WE WILL ENSURE THAT IT IS BEING SENT OUT EVERY YEAR. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO HAVE IT EVERY YEAR.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS MY ONLY COMMENT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BUT THEN MR. GLOVER SO I THINK THIS WAS A REALLY COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT YOUR HANDBOOK AND I LOVE THAT YOU GAVE US THE POSITION.

I HAD THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT THE WHISTLE BLOWER POLICY AND POLITICAL PARTICIPATION BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING IN THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST BUSINESS ETHICS AND THE COUNTY CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. BUT I LOOK AT PAGE 151 I'M GOING TO GO BACK THAT ONE YOU HAD SOMETHING HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AND I WOULD SAY WHY IT'S A COUNTY VEHICLE SHOULD BE USED FOR POSSIBLE I'M SORRY WHAT PAGE DID SAY IT'S A PAGE 151 IN YOUR PACKET I DON'T KNOW OF PAGES IN YOUR HANDBOOK BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEE THE PAGE ON THE BOTTOM ONE PAGE ONE IN A PACKET IN THE TRAVEL POLICY CHAPTER 5.1 AND SO SECOND LAST PARAGRAPH INDICATE METHOD OF TRAVEL PERSONAL VEHICLE CARPOOL I'M WONDERING WHY IT'S IN YELLOW.

I'LL LET DENISE SPEAK ON THAT. THAT WAS HER POLICY. THIS IS THE ONE DENISE FOR THE COUNTY TRAVEL EXPENSE POLICY. THIS IS THE ONE IN THE COUNTY BOOK.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHY IT'S YELLOW AND I'M NOT SURE THERE'S A REASON WHY YOU DID IT YEARS AGO AND I AMENDED AND I PROBABLY EMAILED IT TO CATHERINE AND DID NOT TAKE IT OFF. WE CAN TAKE THAT SLIDE OFF. YEAH GOOD CATCH TAB.

WELL I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE LIKE YELLOW I DON'T KNOW EMPHASIS. EMPHASIS, EMPHASIS.

THANK YOU TAB OR EVERYTHING ELSE. OH GOOD JOB ON THAT, MR. GLOVER. YEAH, I I'VE LOOKED AT THE WHISTLEBLOWER POLICY.

I, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BECAUSE OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.

WHAT IT SAYS HERE IS THAT YOU COME TO TO THE HUMAN RESOURCE OR YOU COME TO THE ATTORNEY OR YOU CAN COME TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND IF NOT ANY ONE OF THOSE YOU CAN COME TO THE CHAIRMAN OR THE VICE CHAIR OF THE COUNCIL. SO I THINK YOU KNOW BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUTSIDE SOURCE OF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO BUT I THINK I'M SATISFIED WHAT'S THE KNOW THE ONLY THING I THINK OF WITH THE WHISTLEBLOWER POLICIES THAT LITTLE CLAUSE YOU HAVE HERE TO THE EXTENT REASONABLE POSSIBLE AND IT COMES DOWN CONFIDENTIALITY AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU PUT THAT IN THERE I YOU KNOW I THINK A WHISTLEBLOWER SHOULD HAVE EXCLUSIVE CONFIDENTIALITY. THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY REASON FOR ANYBODY TO KNOW WHISTLE BLOWER IS IN THIS DAY AND TIME PEOPLE WHEN THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S WHISTLE BLOWER WHO THAT PERSON IS OF A LOT OF EXTREME THINGS CAN HAVE USUALLY THAT DISCLAIMER IS IN THERE BECAUSE IF WE ARE CROSSING INTO ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES AND WE ARE OBLIGATED TO REPORT IT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE HAVE TO DISCLOSE NAMES EVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT REALLY OH PRESS GOT FREEDOM OF AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO REPORT THEIR SOURCE BUT WELL IF WE'RE MAKING THE REPORT YEAH WE WE WENT AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW THIS POLICY IS ACTUALLY PROVIDED TO US. WE STARTED A DRAFT ON THIS AND PROVIDED THAT OVER TO THE EXTERNAL OUR LAW FIRM THAT'S ASSISTING WITH THE AUDIT AND ASKED THEM TO HELP CLEAN THIS LANGUAGE UP AND THIS IS WHAT THEY SENT TO US AND THIS HAS BEEN VETTED AS WELL BY AN EXTERNAL LAW FIRM. OKAY. AND THE THE ONLY OTHER ONE I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU ENHANCE THESE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE IN THERE YES WE HAD SOME HELP THE I.T. AND THE PIO ON THAT ALONG WITH LEGAL BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS TRICKY ONE NOT TO INFRINGE ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT WE DID AND SAID AGAIN THANK YOU YOU'RE WELCOME . ALL RIGHT GOOD. SO I MEAN I HAVE TO SAY I AGREE WITH, ALICE. HOWEVER, I THINK THAT NINE OUT OF TEN TIMES THE CHAIN OF COMMAND IS TO SAY THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO GO SO WE CAN SOMEHOW WORK ABOUT IT'S JUST

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I THINK THAT THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA AND ANY COMMENTS OR SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THEN THIS TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR RESOLUTION IS ANY OBJECTION TO DOING THAT NO AND WE DID HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND SO WE'VE NOW MOVED THIS THEN TO KIND OF CLOSE WITHOUT OBJECTION I HAVE ON YOUR MOTION SO I DO NEED THE MOTION SO THE GLOVES ARE A SECOND A SECOND WITH THE CHANGES WE TALKED ABOUT. ALL RIGHT YOU MAY NEED ANY ADDITIONAL SO YOU KNOW DISCUSSION IS TO MOVE FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL OR RESOLUTION WITHOUT OBJECTION SEEING NO OBJECTION IT HAS BEEN APPROVED AGAIN IT MUST BE. THANK YOU FOR COMING.

[15. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION REPEALING AND REPLACING COUNCIL’S RULES AND PROCEDURES]

AND I THINK WE A NUMBER 15 RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION REPEALING AND REPLACING COUNCIL'S RULES AND PROCEDURES AND I THINK MR. CHAIRMAN INVESTMENT THAT YOU WERE GOING TO HANDLE THIS MORNING IS GONE THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF ME TO CALL OUT COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COMMENT, MAKE ANY SUGGESTION PEOPLE HAVE DONE THERE ARE A COUPLE LITTLE TWEAKS THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY WENT THROUGH ITERATIONS SOME THINGS SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS. MR. COMPANY TOLD ME ABOUT ONE JUST BEFORE THE MEETING THAT WILL BE CLEANED UP SO WE'RE WE'RE CLOSE WE'RE 99.9% SURE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANT AND RULES AND PROCEDURE MANUAL THAT WILL THEN GO TO ANALOGIZE OUTSIDE AGENCY TO PRODUCE IT SO THAT WE WON'T HAVE PHYSICAL COPIES AS WELL AS DIGITAL COPIES SO THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER CONCERNS I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION TO MOVE IT ON TO COUNSEL.

ALL RIGHT THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION OF SECOND THAT ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION, MR.. YES. MR..

SO I JUST WANT TO VERIFY MR. PIERCE WHEN HE GOT MY COUPLE OF THINGS.

OKAY. SO FOR EXAMPLE ON PAGE TWO OR TWO JUST FOR EVERYBODY ELSE WE SHOULD NOTE THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER COULD MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND PUBLIC COMMENT LIKE WE DID PREVIOUSLY AND I APPRECIATE IT ADDING THE BULLET SEVEN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT WAS A GOOD ADDITION AND THEN JUST SO WE'RE CAREFUL THAT EVERY WHERE WE SAY HIMSELF IT SHOULD SAY HIMSELF OR HERSELF OKAY WELL THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER MINOR TO THAT THE CHAIRMAN AND I WILL COORDINATE WITH BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL. IT MOVED TO COUNCIL WITHOUT OBJECTION IS THERE ANY OBJECTION FROM OBJECTION THIS DOES MOVE FORWARD THEN.

WE GET THE DIGITAL CORRECTIONS DOCUMENT FOR THE COUNCIL'S MEETING.

YEAH ONCE WE HAVE MADE ALL OF THESE FINAL TWEAKS IT WILL GO TO COUNCIL FOR 11.

YEAH BEFORE THE APPROVAL ON DECEMBER 11. SURE AND EVERYBODY IS OKAY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEND IT OUT FOR PUBLICATION AND SAY OH GEE KNOW WE FORGOT THAT.

[16. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AMANDA DICKMAN, LIBRARY DIRECTOR TO THE FIRST STEPS PARTNERSHIP BOARD]

NO MR. CHAIRMAN, I COME AND I WILL MAKE IS THAT THE FIRST UP BOARD IS NO GOOD ORGANIZATION AND THE SELECTION FROM THIS BODY HERE A GOOD PERSON AND SHOULD BE A GOOD MARRIAGE.

YEAH. AND MR. CARBONE, DID I MISS ANYTHING FROM THAT? A YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION PREVIOUS ABOUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO ADD TO THIS WHOLE THING? NO, WE'RE GOOD. SO IS THERE ANY OBJECTION SEEING NO OBJECTION. APPROVAL HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED APPROVAL HAS AS THE MAIN

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LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO AGENCIES BOARDS NUMBER 17 AND I HAVE A QUESTION TWO QUESTIONS.

YES, MISS BRENNAN, DO WE RECEIVE ANY OTHER APPLICANTS FOR THIS 17 YES AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS IS DISTRICT TEN RESIDENT SWAP CHANGE APPROVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WHAT DOES THAT YOU SEE THAT YEAH HE IS DISTRICT 11 AND DISTRICT 11 HAVE A VACANCY AND HE COULDN'T FILL AND HE AGREED TO ALLOW MR. FARRELL TO FILL THAT EVEN THOUGH MR. DOES NOT LIVE IN DISTRICT LEVEL. OKAY SO AS MR. RIVERA WE'RE GOING TO SERVE DISTRICT TEN AND 11 NO DISTRICT TEN ALREADY HAS SOME OH DOES OH SO OKAY AGAIN ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEONE FROM DISTRICT TEN SERVING AS MY DISTRICT NINE REPRESENTATIVE. I WAS VERY, VERY QUALIFIED. YES.

THOSE REPRESENTING THIS DISTRICT, THE WHOLE COUNTY BUT DISTRICT NINE WITH MY DISTRICT

[17. AGENCIES, BOARDS, AND COMMISSIONS APPOINTMENTS & REAPPOINTMENTS]

SO UH, NUMBER 17 WE SEE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS BEFORE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF APPOINTMENT OF JOHN VERRALL TO THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM WITH THE EXPIRATION DATE OF NOVEMBER 2027.

DO YOU NEED A MOTION ON THAT? YES I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. I'LL LOOK AT SECOND SECOND ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION SO YOU NO DISCUSSION WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION AS ANY OBJECTION DOES GO TO COUNCILORS IS THE FACT THAT IT GOES TO COUNCIL AS A AS A RESOLUTION

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

[20. ADJOURNMENT]

YES TREE LIGHTING DECEMBER EIGHT, 6 P.M. RIGHT OUT HERE EVERY

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.