Nov 17, 2023 Northern Regional Plan Implementation Committee

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. WE'VE GOT A THAT I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL ANXIOUS TO HEAR A LOT OF INFORMATION NEWLY FORMED GREENSPACE PENNY ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS JUST BEGUN ITS IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS AND TO REVIEW IT ITS FIRST WEEK IN DECEMBER.

[1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

[2. FOIA – PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.]

[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – AUGUST 25, 2023]

ALL RIGHT. WELL START BACK HERE WE ARE RETURNING CRITICAL PLAYER EARLY ON A SMART LONG RANGE PLANNER FOR THE PLANNING PART BY MARION KRIEGER I REFER YOU TO THE FOR THE ANDERSON VIEW FOR KELLY ROBERT MERCHANT VIEW FOR COUNTY CORPORATION OF YOUR GREAT GREAT CITY BEAUFORT I GO BACK HERE WITH THE LET'S JESSE WHITE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE NO ACROSS TOWN OF PORT ROYAL JOE MACK NEWPORT TRAILBLAZERS AND PAPPAS PLANNING COMMISSION VIEW FOR COUNTY ELLIS HOWARD DISTRICT COUNTY COUNCIL MIAMI FACE CITY BEFORE BECAUSE CHAIR OF THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION THAT'S ALSO SCOTT MARSHALL GUILFORD CITY MANAGER JERRY ASHMORE TAMPA BAY WILL STEP FORWARD THAT TALK ABOUT WAS THAT TURNED OUT FOR AMERICA

[4. CITIZEN COMMENTS (Comments are limited to 3 minutes.)]

YES. AND WOULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF ,JOE MACK? I'M HERE MORE LONG TIME MOVED WITH RESIDENTS AND REPRESENTATIVES THE TRAILBLAZERS JUST WAS WONDERING ABOUT YOUR PARKS AND REC FOR THE COUNTY IF ANYONE KNOWS IF THAT MASTERPLAN WAS WAS THE PRIVATE CONSULT WAS EVER RELEASED THEN I WENT TO A COUPLE HAVE A BRIEF COMMENT IS I WENT TO A COUPLE FOR THE COUNTY HEALTH SERVICE I'M SORRY GO AHEAD WE SAY ROBERT OH NO HONEY YOU CAN INTERRUPT ME. I'M NOT I'M NOT SUCCESSFUL.

OH NO. ED WAS LOOKING AT ME AND I I'M NOT 100% SURE WHAT I WENT ONE AT FIRST. WELL SURE THIS WELL I THINK IT WAS THE FALL I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR WE 2322 SO I WENT TO THE WHITE SCOTT SAID I THINK THERE WAS LIKE FOUR OR FIVE SHERIFFS AND THEN THE PRIVATE CONSULTANT WAS GONE. HE WAS LIKE A MASTER A MASTER PLAN JUST I THOUGHT PURPOSE OF IT WAS JUST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PEOPLE WANTED IN THEIR OR FOR THEIR THERE'S GOING TO DO THE WHOLE COUNTY SO THAT'S MY QUESTION I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT HAS BEEN RELEASED. SO THAT'S. QUESTION THANK YOU.

I'M NOT REALLY ADDRESSING IT. THEY'RE RESPONDING TO IT IN IT'S SPOKE STILL AT THIS POINT YOU CAN GIVE YOUR NAME AND CONTACT INFORMATION I GUESS IT WOULD BE MR. MERCHANT AND I'M SURE YOU'LL GET BACK TO YOU REGARDING QUESTION THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME STAY RIGHT THERE FOR ME. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE AN OLD BUSINESS OF HERE HAS BEEN HERE FOR SOME TIME NOW.

[5. UPDATE ON THE DISCUSSION ABOUT COORDINATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY]

CNN IS STILL NOW WE'RE WORKING ON THE I THINK THE DESIGN PHASE FOR, THE EXPANSION OF OUR FIRE

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WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT THE BROADER WE HAVE NOT BROACHED YET.

ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE'LL TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA AT APPROPRIATE TIME IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK UP. I APPRECIATE IT.

[6. IMPLEMENTATION OF SOUTH CAROLINA’S FIRST GREEN SPACE PROGRAM: From referendum to first application cycle - MARK DAVIS AND ROBERT MERCHANT]

AND SO GIULIANI'S SMITH BACK ON BOARD WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR GREEN SPACE PROGRAM AS AN ADDITIONAL LONG RANGE PLANNER SO ACQUIRING FOLLOWS WHICH MAKES IT SO. WELL GOOD MORNING WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO I'M GOING TO JUST PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM I GUESS HOW WE SPENT THE LAST YEAR IT SET UP I DIDN'T WANT TO GO TOO MUCH INTO DETAIL BECAUSE I WANTED BE ABLE TO HAND THIS OFF TO MARK DAVIS WHO WILL PROVIDE MORE PRACTICAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE WAY THE PROGRAM IS SET UP AND, HOW PROJECTS ARE RECEIVED AND REVIEWED AND YOU KNOW, GO BEFORE THE COMMITTEE AND GET THROUGH THE PROCESS SO. AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MOST HELPFUL TO THIS COMMITTEE. SO JUST A REAL QUICK READ RIGHT THERE.

OH, THANK YOU. REAL QUICK OVERVIEW. THIS WORKS WELL ACTUALLY TRACKS ERRORS SO IT'S A CALL TRAIL REMEMBER 203 MONTH THE LAST MEETING I JUST HAD TO WORK WITH FOLKS SO THIS ONE TOUCH EXECUTED OR I JUST SEE THIS WELL AND I GET THAT OKAY WELL IF YOU REMEMBER IN 2022 THE COUNTY WAS MOVING FORWARD TO SET UP FOR A $0.01 SALES TAX REFERENDUM FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS ,HAVE A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.

WE HAD A COMMITTEE SET UP AND WE'RE ALL READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND THAT SUMMER SENATOR SPONSORED A BILL STATEWIDE BASICALLY YOU KNOW, THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT WAS TO ENABLE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO LEVY A $0.01 SALES TAX TO GO TOWARD LANDS OF LAND PRESERVATION.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILWOMAN HOWARD COULD PROBABLY FILL IN BUT I THINK HE HAD APPROACHED OUR COUNCIL AND I GUESS STRONGLY URGED US TO BE A PILOT FOR THE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. SO SUMMER OF 2022 WE QUICKLY KIND OF SHIFTED COURSE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TIME IT SET UP FOR SALES REFERENDUM IN 2022 FOR THE GREEN SPACE PROGRAM AND SO THAT IS THE STAFF LEVEL YOU KNOW THERE'S CERTAIN TIMING YOU HAVE TO MEET IN ORDER TO GET A REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT SO HAD TAKEN ACTION IN AUGUST 2022 TO MOVE FORWARD AND IN ADDITION WE HAD OUR COUNTY LEGAL STAFF THAT WORK CLOSELY WITH THE STATE AND YOU IT'S A NEW PROGRAM YOU KNOW ANSWER SOME AMBIGUOUS QUESTIONS . ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND OUT WAS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE KIND OF PROVIDED AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM PRIOR TO THE REFERENDUM AND SO WE QUICKLY SCRAMBLED TO COME UP WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT BASICALLY OUTLINED THE PROGRAM GUIDELINE VERY GENERAL BUT WE USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IN SLIDES. OKAY KEEP GOING SAY OH THIS IS

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BUT WHAT WE DID IN THE AUDIENCE IS ONE THAT MAKES SURE THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE SPELLED OUT SO THAT IF A REFERENDUM WERE SUCCESSFUL AND MOVING FORWARD TO JANUARY OF 2023 WE WERE ABLE TO SET UP A PROGRAM AND SAY OKAY ARE GOING TO DO THESE THINGS YOU KNOW, THESE THESE THINGS THAT WERE AN ORDINANCE PRIOR TO THE REFERENDUM.

WE'RE KIND OF COMMITTED TO DOING THEM AS. WE SET UP THE PROGRAM AND ALSO WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE FOUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO IN A WAY IT'S ALSO OF THE OLD COUNCIL KIND OF LIKE SENDING A MESSAGE TO THE NEW COUNCIL.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THE GREEN SPACE PROGRAM AND FORWARDS.

SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE REALLY KNOW SOME OF THESE GO TO THE STATE REQUIREMENTS BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PROGRAM IS TRANSPARENT AND EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED THE FUNDS WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THIS NEXT ONE IS REALLY IMPORTANT ANY ACQUISITIONS DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS SECURITY ANNEXATIONS REZONINGS OR OTHER ENTITLEMENTS OCCURRING AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE WE WANT TO CAREFULLY SCRUTINIZE AND RESTRICT THAT. SO YOU KNOW THE CONCERN WAS AND

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AND SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS ANYTHING THAT WAS ENTITLED AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE OR THE APPROVAL OF THE REFERENDUM STRONGLY RESTRICT THAT IF NOT PROHIBIT IT. IT'S SORT OF LIKE A YOU KNOW, A BASICALLY A YOU KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT A YOU KNOW, STOP HERE, YOU KNOW, DON'T GO ANY FURTHER THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND THEN ALSO IF SOMETHING WAS ENTITLED FIVE YEARS AGO WELL THAT'S WHEN WE GET INTO THE SCORING YOU KNOW THAT THINGS LIKE THAT START REALLY GETTING HIT WITH THE SCORING AND THEY GET A GET A LOW SCORE. THE THIRD ONE IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS COMMITTEE IS THAT PURCHASES WITHIN JURISDICTION WHETHER IT BE MUNICIPALITY OR PARTY HILL OR JASPER COUNTY ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IS THE MONEY CAN'T BE SPENT OUTSIDE THE COUNTY IF IT'S DEFINITELY SERVING INTEREST FOR COUNTY WE REQUIRE THAT THAT JURISDICTION PROVIDE A LETTER OF SUPPORT BECAUSE I MEAN THIS KIND OF GOES BOTH WAYS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE PURCHASING A PAPER APPROACH TO PURCHASE A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF BEAUFORT IT'S NOT A PLACE WHERE YOU IF IDENTIFIED AS A FUTURE GROWTH AREA OR YOU KNOW YOU'RE YOU'RE COUNTING ON THAT FOR FUTURE TAX BASE YOU KNOW SO IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER AND THEN KNOW SO THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSISTENCY WITH ADOPTED PLANS YOU KNOW WE FIND THIS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WE SEE LAND PRESERVATION PROGRAMS AS A PLAN IMPLEMENTATION TALKING JUST IT'S YOU KNOW IN THE SAME TOOLBOX WITH ZONING SO YOU'RE USING ZONING TO IMPLEMENT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN YOU'RE PRESERVING LAND WHERE IT SHOULD BE PRESERVED, YOU'RE PROMOTING WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE TO SUPPORT GROWTH AND LAND PRESERVATION IS SORT OF LIKE A MORE EXPANSIVE AND SHARP TOOL THAT YOU USE IN SPECIAL OCCASIONS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE PURCHASING LAND IT'S IN ONE OF THOSE AREAS BE PRESERVED.

IN ADDITION, WE DON'T WANT TO BE BUYING LAND THAT EVEN THOUGH NOW WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND SCHOOLS 20 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS IN THAT LAND AS IN PERPETUAL CONSERVATION EASEMENT YOU KNOW IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST YOU KNOW IT MAY BE AN AREA THAT 20 YEARS FROM NOW WE REALLY NEED FOR FOR FUTURE HOUSING OR FUTURE GROWTH AND YOU IT MIGHT HAVE A SCHOOL NEARBY OR PARKS THINGS LIKE THAT THAT SUPPORT YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO SUPPORT GROWTH SO CONSISTENCY WITH THE PLAN FOR PURCHASES OF PROPERTY OR TO BUY DOWNTOWN CITY CONCERN ABOUT GROWTH THAT IS GOING TO CLOG OUR ROADS AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN TOTAL TOO MUCH GROWTH AND WE WANT TO PAY DOWN THAT DENSITY.

WELL THAT'S THAT'S A TOOL THAT'S ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT THIS COULD BE USED FOR.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AND WE ALSO SEE THAT BEING I GUESS VULNERABLE FOR ABUSE. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEBODY IS PURCHASING AND PAYING DOWN DENSITY THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT. SO YOU KNOW, DOING ALMOST LIKE A TRAFFIC IMPACTS ANALYSIS IN REVERSE IF YOU BUY DOWN THESE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS IS IT GOING TO REDUCE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED? IS IT GOING TO AVOID HAVING TO WIDEN THIS ROAD OR CREATE THIS INTERSECTION SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY SO ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, ALSO MATCHING FUNDS THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT THING AS WELL.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LEVERAGING LEVERAGING THIS MONEY AND NOT JUST BUYING DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR. SO ALL OF THESE THINGS WE PUT IN PLACE PRIOR TO THE REFERENDUM BASICALLY NOT ONLY TO SEND A MESSAGE TO FUTURE COUNCIL IF IT'S APPROVED ALSO FOR VOTERS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING INTO THE PROGRAM THEY KNOW THAT THE COUNTY'S SERIOUS THESE THINGS AND HOPEFULLY IS SERIOUS ABOUT ,YOU KNOW, THE ABUSE OF THESE KINDS OF WELL OKAY. IF WE GET BACK UP ON THE SHOW A FEW HERE KEEP GOING ONE MORE WE THIS AS YOU KNOW THERE ARE OTHER LAND PRESERVATION PROGRAMS.

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THE COMPARISON OF THE TWO IS ONE IS KIND OF LIKE THAT SO I BELIEVE A TOYOTA CAMRY OR CAROL I THINK IT'S FOUR CYLINDER, FOUR CYLINDER SO IT'S A RELIABLE CAR DOES WHAT YOU NEED IT TO DO THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE GREENBELT ROAD CRITICAL AT THIS THING IS SORT OF LIKE A SPORTS CAR THAT YOU BETTER BE CAREFUL THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD DRIVER IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GO FAST AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO GET A TICKET OR CRASH IF DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE COMPARISON AND WHY WE FELT THE IMPORTANCE OF SETTING UP THOSE SAFEGUARDS AS MOVE FORWARD I THINK OH AND MARK WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GREENBELT AND GREENSPACE THE OBVIOUS RIGHT AND EVERYBODY CAN SEE BY THIS IMAGE RIGHT IT'S COMPACT GREENBELT ONE WHERE YOU GREENSPACE TWO.

YES OKAY SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD REAL QUICK HERE YOU TWO AND I'LL SET UP FOR MARTIN TO GO ON THE NEXT SLIDE. YEAH THIS WAS JUST OUR REACTION WHEN WE REALIZED WE HAD TO WRITE AN ORDINANCE GO OFF ONE MORE. SO OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN YEAR THE VOTERS APPROVED THE REFERENDUM AND SO OF COURSE IT'S LIKE OH OKAY NOW WHAT DO WE DO GO ON.

SO NEXT CHAPTER WAS WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO GET PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING AND REALLY THE CRITICAL PATH WAS THE STATE LEGISLATION AND. THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE FOLLOWING THE STATE LEGISLATION REQUIRED US TO PUT TOGETHER A GREEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND NOT ONLY THAT IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC ITS REPRESENTATION SO THE COMMITTEE HAD TO BE MADE UP OF A MEMBER OF COUNTY COUNCIL SOMEONE WHO WAS A MEMBER OF THE FUTURE COUNTY LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION AND THAT SAID OH ONE MEMBER WHO'S KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE GEOGRAPHY THAT WAS KIND OF A BROAD CATEGORY AND THEN FOUR CITIZEN MEMBERS EACH REPRESENTING THE NORTHERN, SOUTHERN, EASTERN AND WESTERN AND SO THIS REALLY SET US UP TO A VERY PRACTICAL STRAIGHTFORWARD MAP EXERCISE WHAT IS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST OF COUNTY WE'RE SO USED TO TWO DIRECTIONS NORTH OF THE BROAD SOUTH AT THE FRONT SO WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DIVIDE UP THE IN A WAY THAT LOGICALLY MADE SENSE BUT ALSO WAS, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED. AND SO WE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WENT TO THIS WORK WITH CENSUS TRACTS DIVIDED UP AND THEN YOU KNOW, EVEN IT OUT BUT THEN WE TRIED TO USE LOGICAL BOUNDARIES TO DEFINE THESE BECAUSE THAT'S SOMEBODY CAN SAY WELL IDENTIFY WITH EAST BECAUSE THE EAST THE BATTERY CREEK AND PARRIS ISLAND IT'S IT'S NOT PERFECT THAT WE PRESENTED SOME ALTERNATIVES TO COUNCIL SO THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT THAT WE HAD TO TAKE IN ORDER TO EVEN PUT THE COMMUNITY COLOR IT THE NEXT SLIDE THE NEXT THING THAT WE DID WAS WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT THE COMMITTEE AND THE IMPORTANT ROLE THAT THEY PLAYED KNOW THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY WOULD BE HAVING TO MAKE DECISION AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

SO WE REALLY TREATED THIS AS IF WE HIRING STAFF. WE WENT THROUGH A LENGTHY YOU KNOW WE ADVERTISED BOARD POSITIONS, WE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS AND THEN WE SET UP INTERVIEWS AND THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL AND GOING TO THAT PROCESS IT KIND OF ALSO YOU KNOW WE HAVE 11 MEMBER COUNCIL BUT ONLY FOUR REPRESENTATIVES SO NOT LIKE YOU COULD JUST GO TO A COUNCIL MEMBER AND SAY YOU WHO WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR YOUR DISTRICT? SO WE REALLY KIND OF HAD TO DO IT THIS BUT I THINK WHAT IT RESULTED IN THIS WE HAVE A VERY GOOD COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER OF THE INTERVIEW PROCESS WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING BECAUSE THERE WERE TIMES WHERE SOMEBODY MAY HAVE LOOKED GOOD ON PAPER. THEN IN THE INTERVIEW YOU'RE LIKE I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T IMAGINE THIS WORKING YOU KNOW IN THIS GROUP DYNAMIC AND YOU KNOW THIS WAS A VERY HELPFUL PROCESS AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE COMMITTEE APPOINTED BY COUNCIL IN MARCH AND THEN OR I GUESS IT WAS IN APRIL OF 2023 AND THEN THEY HAD THEIR FIRST MEETING IN MAY. SO IN AT THAT POINT THE NEXT STEPS WERE TO PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM YOU KNOW WHAT ARE THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES THE FOR THE ON THE GREEN SPACE PROGRAM WE HAD TO PUT TOGETHER THE RANKING CRITERIA FOR PROJECTS AND APPLICATION PROCESS TO GET THAT ADOPTED BY COUNCIL AND THEN GET THE PROJECT AND GET THE PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO HAVE THIS UP TO MARK BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE WORK WE DID RIGHT

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THANK YOU. I GUESS WE'RE PROBABLY GOING WHAT? OH YEAH. SO THAT AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM GETS THAT SHOULD BE SOME MAJOR GOING BACK TO WHAT ROB SAID IS THIS IS SOMETHING WE TOOK VERY KIND OF SERIOUS AND WE PRESENTED THIS AT OUR LOCAL SCOUT BUT NOT TOO LONG AGO AND AND WE WERE SPEAKING TO THE STATE AND ALL THE PLANNING PROFESSIONALS AT THAT CONFERENCE AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO HAMMER HOME IF ANY OF THOSE DISTRICTS OR COUNTIES WERE CONSIDERING THIS IN 2024 IS THAT THAT PROCESS OF COUNTY COUNCIL PUTTING TOGETHER THIS TASK FORCE SITTING IN THIS INTERVIEW COMMITTEE INTERVIEWING PEOPLE AND THEN RECOMMENDING THESE APPOINTMENTS WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN THIS PROCESS CONSIDERING ALL THE THINGS THAT ROB MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS WORKING COMMITTEE IS REALLY KIND OF THE FINAL AUTHORITY THEY HAVE RECOMMENDING MORE OR LESS WHAT PURCHASES OR PROCUREMENTS OCCUR . SO THIS IS WHERE ROB WAS KIND OF GETTING INTO SO MAY WE DISAPPOINT THE COMMITTEE IS APPOINTED WE ARE AT THIS TABLE IN THIS ROOM DOING WORK AND WE'RE BASICALLY CREATING RELATIONSHIPS PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER AND IT IS MOVING AND IN REAL TIME VERY FAST AND FROM THAT WORK WE DECIDE INSTEAD OF CREATING A VERY KIND OF ONE SIZE FITS ALL. AGAIN THIS IS KIND OF A STORY HERE ALL THE SPEED, THE MONEY GENERATED, HOW BROAD THE PROGRAM IS, WHAT KIND OF THINGS THE MONEY CAN BE USED ON.

WE CONTINUE TO TAKE THOSE GUARDRAILS AND WE CONTINUE TO NARROW THE CHANNEL DOWN AND FOCUS THE PROGRAM EVEN MORE BY IDENTIFYING SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE CALL OUR FOCUSED PROCUREMENT TYPES. WHEN I USE THE WORD PROCUREMENT THAT'S JUST WHAT THE STATE CALLS IT AND THAT'S WHAT THE ORDINANCE THE PROGRAM CALLS WAS.

IT'S AN ACQUISITION PROCUREMENT JUST THE PURCHASE IS THE FUNDING.

SO WE BASICALLY CREATED SIX DIFFERENT APPLICATION TYPES. SO THERE'S AN APPLICATION FOR CONSERVATION V SIMPLE FARMLAND, NATURAL STANDARD WILDLIFE AND THEN THIS WAS THE ONE I WAS TALKING ABOUT EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THEN OTHER THESE ARE ALL YOUR FOCUS THE WORK AND THE COMMITTEE STAFF. WE SAID LOOK LET'S TAKE THIS, LET'S NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL.

LET'S ON WHAT WE BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT FOR THE USE OF THESE FUNDS THAT WAS THE FURTHER NARROWING IT DOWN THOSE ARE YOUR FOCUSED AND THEN WE CREATED JUST IN OTHER JUST KIND OF LIKE A SAFEGUARD KIND OF CATCHALL APPLICATION TYPE IN CASE THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO EXCLUDE.

SO IT'S THERE AS AN APPLICATION TYPE AND IT CAN IT CAN BE AND IT CAN BE VETTED THROUGH THE COMMITTEE. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT COUNTY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY IS THE DECIDER OF WHETHER OR NOT DUE DILIGENCE IS FUNDED AND WHETHER OR NOT THE ACTUAL PROCUREMENT IS FUNDED. SO STAFF IN THE GREEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE JUST KIND OF PUT ALL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER THROUGH SOME THAT WORK GREENSPACE ADVISORY MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL COUNCIL OR COMMITTEE HAS TO APPROVE DUE DILIGENCE BUT THEN FOR THE FINAL FUNDING COUNCIL HAS TO PROVE IT AND IT IS BY RESOLUTION NOT BY THREE READINGS SO WE CAN MOVE IT A LITTLE QUICKER. SO WHEN DEALING WITH REAL ESTATE YOU'RE DEALING WITH THESE THINGS WE MIGHT BE CHASING SOMETHING.

WE TRY TO MAKE IT AS EXPEDITIOUS AS WE COULD THROUGH GOVERNMENT PROCESS BUT KEEP IT KNOW YOU KNOW, TRANSPARENT AND HAVE THESE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE IT COULDN'T BE ABUSED OR WHEN YOU SAY THE COMMITTEE MUST APPROVE THE DUE DILIGENCE YOU'RE SPEAKING THE LAND USE COMMITTEE CAN WE DEVELOP A LAND USE COMMITTEE? RIGHT.

ALSO CAN WE TO AND THEN IT WOULD GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR THE GREENSPACE COMMITTEE FOR THIS. CORRECT. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE VIEW IT LIKE A COUPLE IT'S REALLY IT'S A TWO STEP PROCESS BUT THERE'S STEPS THERE'S THE INITIAL

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IT COMES BACK TO STAFF. THEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME THE COMMITTEE THE GREENSPACE ADVISORY I'LL TRY I'LL TRY I'LL DO LAND USE AND GREENSPACE I COULD USE MORE TO MAKE THE GREENSPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND STAFF WOULD THEN KIND OF FOCUS DOWN BECAUSE WHERE IN THE ORDINANCE THIS IS ALL ORDINANCE THIS IS ALL LAW THERE IS WE CANNOT FROM THIS THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE NOW BEEN AUTHORIZED BY COUNCIL AND THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S THAT PROCESS STAFF COMMITTEE COUNSEL SO YOU'VE GOT A FEW LAYERS ACCOUNTABILITY THERE.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S SPEND MONEY AND. YOU HAVE NOW BEEN AUTHORIZED TO START NEGOTIATING. THERE'S REALLY NO NEGOTIATING GOING ON PRIOR TO THAT.

IT'S JUST AN APPLICATIONS RECEIVED. THEY TAKE THEIR BEST SHOT AND THEN COUNCIL MOVE FORWARD FURTHER CONSIDERATION YOU CAN SPEND MONEY ON DUE DILIGENCE AND YOU CAN START NEGOTIATING WITH THE APPLICANTS BECAUSE IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ONE OR I'LL GO BACK TO ONE SLIDE AND SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS AREA THE MUNICIPAL OR ANYBODY HAS AN APPLICATION AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID IN THE VERY BEGINNING IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THE PROGRAM IS HOW DO WE TAKE $100 MILLION AND EXTEND IT OUT? HOW DO WE TURN IT INTO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS BY REQUIRING LEVERAGING AND MATCHING SOME OF THESE BUY RIGHT REQUIRE AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION A PARTNER THE MATCHING FUND, SOME OF THEM DON'T BUT THE PROGRAM SAYS THE GREENSPACE COMMITTEE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO AS A PART NEGOTIATE AND SAY HEY, THIS LOOKS GOOD BUT YOU GOT TO BRING SOME MONEY TO THE TABLE.

YOU GOT TO BRING MATCHING FUNDS WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD SAY FOR THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE ROOM. BE MINDFUL OF THAT. SO IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, A MUNICIPALITY THAT LIKE EVERYBODY A TEAM PLAYER, EVERYBODY IS INVOLVED.

EVERYBODY HAS BUY IN AND IT CAN BE A DONATION TO YOUR DONATE. ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE CAN THE MATCHING FUNDS BE YOU KNOW YOU KNOW A IF IT WAS I'LL JUST USE SOME EXAMPLES CONSIDERING THE MINDS IN THE ROOM IF IT'S A MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALITY YOU CAN SAY HEY WE'RE AN APPLICANT, WE WANT TO APPLY GREENSPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHICH IS FINE BUT AND WE'RE GOING MATCH FUNDS FROM OUR GENERAL FUND AND WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR 50 AND THAT'S OUR COMMITMENT TO THE PROGRAM AND OUR COMMITMENT TO THESE THINGS.

I MUST GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE OR YOU COULD HAVE A LANDOWNER TO ELSE'S POINT A DOES WHAT'S CALLED INSTEAD OF IT BEING A PARTNERSHIP WHETHER IT MIGHT BE WITH THE D.O.D. THE STATE OR SOME OTHER FUND THAT'S MATCHING IT CAN BE WHAT'S CALLED AN IN-KIND WITH THE LANDOWNER WHEREAS OF AN APPRAISAL I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A SIMPLE IF AN APPRAISAL CAME IN AT $10 THE LANDOWNER CAN SAY WELL I'LL TAKE FIVE FOR IT SO THAT'S 100% MATCH RIGHT THERE.

SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU CAN ACHIEVE LEVERAGING FUNDS OR HOW THE MATCH CAN OCCUR IT CAN BE FROM OTHER FUNDS OR IT CAN BE AN IN-KIND THE GREENSPACE COMMITTEE IS THE BODY THAT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE NOT STAFF. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS JUST ON ALLOCATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING TOO IS THAT WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH ALL THIS FOR EVERYTHING IS THAT WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS AS STAFF GOING THROUGH THIS PROGRAM WE KNOW AT THE VERY END THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUES GOD BLESS IT THEY THEY HAD TO PROVE IT. WE HAD TO SEND IT TO THEM AND THEY HAD TO APPROVE THIS PLAN.

SO WE KIND OF HAD THAT IN THE BACK OF OUR HEADS THE WHOLE TIME WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT REALLY MEANT BUT THERE WERE SOME INTERPRETATION AND TOM, OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY GOT SOME INTERPRETATIONS ON THAT EARLY ON WHICH HELPED OUT A LITTLE BIT KIND OF STATUS.

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BUT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY IN THEIR LETTER THIS IS CAME OUT OF THEIR HAT ON IN REGARDS TO THEM SAYING YOU'RE GOOD AND THAT'S AND THE PROGRAM DOES ACHIEVE ALL THOSE THINGS.

SO I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF MOVING FORWARD IN THIS KIND OF STUFF BUT IT REALLY KIND OF A STORY OF THE TIME PERIOD BECAUSE THIS IS FROM REFERENDUM THROUGH PROCESS SO THAT ORDINANCE PRE REFERENDUM THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE COMMITTEE WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE THESE ARE THE READINGS BY BEAUFORT COUNTY SO THIS IS ALL HAPPENING VERY FAST.

I MEAN THIS IS THIS WAS ESSENTIALLY I WILL TELL YOU THAT STARTING IN EARLY LATE WINTER OR EARLY SPRING THIS WAS ALMOST A FULL TIME JOB FOR ME AND KEEPING MY FOOT ON THE GAS, DOING THIS STUFF WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE WRITING OR WRITING LAW WRITING PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW THESE ARE THE FURTHER IS NOTHING LIKE THIS IN THE STATE UNANIMOUS SO ABOUT I MEAN ALICE WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO SPEAK TO THAT I THINK REGARDING COUNCIL'S PERCEPTION OF IT BUT I MEAN SEEMED LIKE IT WAS WELL-RECEIVED AND COUNCIL WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THEIR WORK.

I MEAN I WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. YEP.

SO NOW LET'S HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE? HOW MUCH TIME OVER LIKE 20 MINUTES BEFORE ANYTHING APPROACHES. SO LET'S LOOK REAL QUICK.

SO NOW WE'RE AT PROGRAMS, WE'RE IN APPLICATION CYCLE, WE'RE IN OUR FIRST APPLICATION CYCLE RIGHT NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY WAITING WE'RE IN WHAT'S CALLED THE TEN APPLICANTS HAVE TEN DAYS TO CORRECT THEIR DEFICIENCIES IN THEIR APPLICATIONS THAT ENDS THIS WEEK AND ONCE THIS WEEK ENDS UP WE'LL KNOW HOW MANY OFFICIAL APPLICATIONS WE HAVE THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE GREEN SPACE ADVISORIES FIRST MEETING IN EARLY DECEMBER.

SO THESE ARE THE KIND OF FUNDAMENTALS OF THE APPLICATION AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE A MUNICIPALITY YOU'RE GOING TO KIND OF WORK OR ANY ANY OTHER THING.

THIS IS THE STUFF THAT WOULD BE FOLLOWING ALL OF THIS IS DEFINED IN THE PROGRAM.

THIS IS ALL ORDINANCE. THIS IS LAW. WE CAN DEVIATE FROM THIS IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PRE APPLICATION MEETING THAT MEETING NEEDS TO OCCUR 15 DAYS PRIOR TO AN APPLICATION DEADLINE ONCE THAT'S DONE LIKE FOR INSTANCE THIS APPLICATION DEADLINE WAS OCTOBER 31ST. I GO BACK TO THE DATES YOU SAW WHEN COUNCIL IT'S JUST LOOMING EVERY DAY SO OCTOBER 16TH WAS THE LAST DAY TO HOLD A PRE FOR THIS CYCLE AT THAT PRE APP YOU GET SOME INFORMATION YOU GET YOUR APPLICATION BASED OFF OF WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU'VE COME AND ASKED ABOUT KIND OF LIKE A MAYBE THINK OF IT LIKE A RESOURCE PROCESS REZONING APPS YOU GET AN IDEA AND THEN EVERYBODY AN IDEA AND ALL RIGHT IF YOU WANT FOR EXAMPLE CONSERVATION EASEMENT CORRIDOR HERE'S YOUR APPLICATION TYPE AFTER THE DEADLINE CLOSES, STAFFERS USE ALL APPLICATIONS FOR COMPLETENESS IF THE APPLICATION IS NOT DEEMED COMPLETE. SO JULIEN IOWA LITERALLY WORKING ON THESE LAST WEEK THIS IS THIS IS HAPPENING LIKE THAT WE DIDN'T GET A LETTER ON OFFICIAL LETTERS EITHER YOUR APPLICATION IS COMPLETE WE ALSO SAID BUT YOUR APPLICATION HAD SOME INCONSISTENCIES BLAH BLAH BLAH POLICE CRACKDOWN OR YOUR APPLICATION HAS BEEN DEEMED INCOMPLETE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS WE COPY PASTE THE ORDINANCE SO IT'S ROCK SOLID AND THEN THEY THEN HAVE TEN DAYS TO CORRECT THAT INFORMATION. I WILL SAY THIS AN APPLICATION BY A MUNICIPAL COUNTY DOES NOT TAKE AWAY THAT. SO HOW MANY MUNICIPALITY I MAKE AN APPLICATION I STILL NEED THIS LETTER BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE A STAFF MEMBER IT WE DON'T KNOW WHO THIS IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TEMPERATURE OF THAT MUNICIPALITY IS.

THIS IS A RELATIONSHIP SO WE WANT A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THAT MUNICIPALITY AND INCLUDING IN ADDITION TO THE APPLICATION AND IN THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT THIS IS WHERE IT COMES TO WHAT ROB WAS SAYING ON CURRENT PLANS WE OUR PLANS YOU ALL HAVE YOUR CONFLICTS, YOU HAVE YOUR FUTUREGROWTH, YOU HAVE YOUR PLANS OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE YOUR LETTER OF SUPPORT I WILL SAY THIS YOU WANT SOMEBODY IN YOUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IN YOUR ROOM AT ALL TIMES TO WRITE YOUR LETTER OF SUPPORT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THEIR HELP BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO AND YOU HAVE TO WEIGH YOURS AGAINST YOUR REGULATING PLANS, YOUR COMP PLANS, YOUR PARK PLANS OR WHATEVER THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE IN YOUR LETTER OF SUPPORT YOU NEED TO JUSTIFY WHY YOU'RE NOT JUST WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY AND THOSE US IT'S NOT JUST A POLITICAL LETTER IT HAS TO

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WE WANT TO DIG FURTHER INTO IT BUT WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON DUE DILIGENCE AND THAT IS ALSO WHERE THE PART OF THE PROGRAM WHERE THEY GREENLIGHT THE ABILITY TO START NEGOTIATING THE APPLICATION SO JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY APPLIED IT'S I DON'T WANT ALL YOUR MONEY CAN YOU SAY IT'S GOT MARRIED BUT WE DON'T AGREE WITH DEAL WE'RE NOT GOING TO KILL YOUR APPLICATION LET'S MOVE IT FORWARD LIKE WE'RE NOT DEALING THAT ON THE FRONT END IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT GETTING IN POLITICAL BATTLES ON THAT IT'S HERE WE GO ALL. RIGHT WE GOT THAT.

BUT BRING MORE MONEY ON THE TABLE IN THE GREENSPACE AS FAR AS WE CAN SAY WE WANT BETTER MATCH BRING US A BETTER DEAL LOWER ASKING PRICE THAT'S WHERE THAT THAT'S WHERE THAT STEP COMES IN FROM THAT WORK WE TAKE THE DUE DILIGENCE WE TAKE THE WHAT I'M CALLING A NEGOTIATED DEAL AND WE READJUST OUR ORIGINAL KIND OF APPLICATION AND RANKING BECAUSE IT MIGHT GO UP IT MIGHT GO DOWN. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THIS IN THE GREEN SPACE PROGRAM AND LAND USE IS CRITICAL OF UNDERSTANDING HOW SOMETHING WOULD RANK WHEN THEY FIRST APPLY WE MIGHT HAVE A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT THE LAND USE OF THAT LAND MIGHT BE BUT UNTIL WE'VE GONE THROUGH A BIT FURTHER CONSIDERATION, A LITTLE BIT DUE DILIGENCE AND SOME OF THAT NEGOTIATION ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A MUNICIPALITY OR, EVEN A LANDLORD AND WE KNOW IF SOMEBODY IS DOING A CONSERVATION EASEMENT WORKING WITH A LANDOWNER THEY MIGHT HAVE YOU KNOW SO THERE ARE STILL SOME MOVEMENT THERE THAT AND LAND USE THEN COULD DING THE ORIGINAL SCORE OR IT COULD RAISE IT UP. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE IF ENOUGH BUT THERE'S A WHOLE SITE THAT'S WOODED AND THE LAND USE IS IT'S GOING TO BE HAVE BUT WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO REMAIN WOODED THAT MIGHT BRING A SCORE DOWN THEY MAY HAVE TO BRING MORE MONEY TO THE TABLE TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT SCORE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS PROGRAM WORKS. SO THAT'S WHY THE STEPS JUST AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND THIS IS SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE STAFF IN THE GREEN SPACE ADVISORY GROUP MANY SAY IT'S GOT MERIT AND YOU IT ANALYSIS COMMITTEE FOR RECOMMENDATION IS BY NO MEANS BE PERCEIVED THAT STAFF OR THE GREENSPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR THE LAND USE COMMITTEE AT THAT POINT IS RECOMMENDING A PURCHASE THAT IS SIMPLY NOT A RECOMMENDATION TO. FURTHER CONSIDER THE APPLICATION AT THAT POINT SO I THAT TO BE EVERYBODY KIND OF INTERESTED BECAUSE THERE'S STILL SOME CONFUSION THAT ON THAT REGARDS WHAT DOES THE COUNTY GET TO TO REVIEW OR TO SEE THE APPLICATIONS THEN NOT BEING CONSIDERED? I'M SORRY WHAT'S THAT AGAIN? WILL THE COUNTY COMMITTEE GET TO SEE THE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE NOT BEING CONSIDERED A LIST OF APPLICATIONS STILL NOT BEING CONSIDERED? ALL THE APPLICATIONS COME IN ONLY COMPLETE MOVE FORWARD.

THE GREENSPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO THE COUNTY. ME ASK IT ANOTHER WAY WITH THE GREENSPACE COMMITTEE REJECTING THE APPLICATION DO WE SEE THAT THE REJECTIONS? IF YOU'RE ASKING ME I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD NOT BE ON THE COMMITTEE ONLY APPLICATIONS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND AND DUE DILIGENCE WOULD IN YOUR COMMITTEE TO JUDGE THE OTHER OTHERWISE IT MIGHT MIGHT GET KIND OF CONFUSING IT MIGHT GET CONFUSING TOO TO SAY HEY THERE'S THIS APPLICATION HERE WE DON'T RECOMMEND DUE DILIGENCE FIRST IN COMMITTEE IT'S THESE APPLICATIONS HAVE MERIT WE RECOMMEND THAT THEY ARE FURTHER CONSIDERED AND THERE'S DUE DILIGENCE INVOLVED AND THE EXPENDITURE OF THE DUE DILIGENCE SO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS FIRST LEVEL OF DISAPPROVAL. YES INTERESTING NOT STAFF BUT IT'S I WILL SAY I'LL SAY THIS AND THAT IT'S NOT A HIGH BAR TO GET PAST THAT FIRST LEVEL IT'S IT'S A IT'S YOU I MEAN WE'RE NOT HERE SAYING IS EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS STAFF WE DON'T WANT

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WE DON'T WANT TO WASTE TAXPAYER MONEY BECAUSE THIS IS TAXPAYERS MONEY.

WE'RE NOT THE BUSINESS OF WASTING IT. WHAT DO YOU SEE THE BETTER APPLICATION, MARK I MEAN IF SOMEONE JUST DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROGRAM BUT AGAIN THAT'S NOT MY CALL. YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT THANK YOU. IT'LL BE PRETTY OBVIOUS IT WOULD BE QUITE OBVIOUS I THINK ANY GRANT THIS IS THE FIRST CYCLE THIS IS NEW IT'S A DYNAMIC THING. IT WILL EVOLVE YOU KNOW SO WE'RE NOT WE WE'VE TRIED TO GET AS GOOD AS WE COULD BUT WE KNOW WE'VE LEFT ROOM THAT THERE IS FOR IT TO BE TESTED.

I WAS LIKE WE JUST GOT TO GET IT OPEN AND LET'S JUST START TESTING.

LET'S RUN SOME THINGS THROUGH IT IS THE VARIOUS CRITERIA THAT THIS COMMITTEE CONSIDERS ON PROJECTS IS IT IS IT WEIGHTED CRITERIA OR IS IT A COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE PROGRAM? THE PROGRAM REQUIRES THE COMPONENTS THAT HAVE TO BE MEASURED.

SO THOSE COMPONENTS ARE THE FOLLOWING THEM A QUARTER OF THE WAY.

THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PLANNING QUARTER. THE WEIGHT OF THE APPLICATION WILL BE EVALUATED AGAINST YOUR REGULATING PLANS YOUR PLANS FOR US IT'S OUR PLAN IT'S OUR GREEN PRINT PLAN AND THE COUNTY YOU MIGHT HAVE YOUR OWN THAT'S A QUARTER AND WE DIDN'T VIOLATE IF YOU SAY WE WANT RIGHT HERE YOU SEND US AN APPLICATION YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET MANY POINTS THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE DIRECTLY VIOLATING YOUR OWN ADOPTED PLAN THEN A QUARTER OF THE WAY IS ESSENTIALLY AS A PART OF THE APPLICATION THE APPLICANT ANSWERS A SEQUENCE, QUESTIONS A QUARTER OF SPACE AND THOSE QUESTIONS HOW WELL THEY WERE ANSWERED AND THEN 50% OF THE WAY IS EXACTLY THAT. IT'S A VERY MATH METRIC THAT'S LIKE IF YOU MEET THIS YOU GET THESE POINTS VERY CLEAR LIKE IS IT DO YOU HAVE A MATCH IN THEIRS THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROGRAM LEVERAGING FUNDS, MATCHING FUNDS, ALL OF THAT STUFF THE MONEY IS VERY IMPORTANT APPLICATIONS RECEIVED THAT DO NOT SHOW LEVERAGE WILL NOT SCORE WELL AND IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF APPLICATION IN EFFECT JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE FARMLAND IF IF IT'S DESIGNATED PRIME FARMLAND YOU GET MORE POINTS YOU KNOW SO THAT'S A YOU KNOW, BENEFITS TO HELP ALLEVIATE STORMWATER WAS THE FIRST THAT'S DIFFERENT THAT'S A DIFFERENT SCORE AND THAT'S AND THAT'S GOING BACK TO WHY SHOULD NOT JUST HAVE A ONE APPLICATION FITS ALL APPROACH ALL OF THESE APPLICATIONS HAVE DIFFERENT SCORING METRICS AND DIFFERENT SOME OF THEM HAVE SOME OF THOSE BASIC SAME QUESTIONS AND THEN EACH ONE OF THEM HAS KIND OF AROUND SPECIFIC QUESTION BY THE SCORE METRIC THAT 50% OF IT HAS SIMILARITIES BUT HOW GETS SCORED IS RELATED TO THE IMPORTANCE OF EACH TYPE. SO A FARMLAND PRESERVATION THAT TYPE AS ALICE POINT WOULD FOCUS ON HOW GOOD ARE THESE SOILS ARE THESE WORTH PRESERVING BECAUSE IT'S PRIME FARMLAND SO DON'T JUST THINK TODAY THINK 50 YEARS FROM NOW THINK 100 YEARS FROM NOW HOW DID WE PRESERVE PRIME AGRICULTURAL LAND FOR FUTURE OF THIS COUNTY? IT'S PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KEEP GROUND. ONE THING WE KNOW IS LIKE MULTIPLYING SO WE NEED TO KEEP FINDING TO FEEL LIKE I GOT ABOUT 5 MINUTES AND ASKED FIVE MORE MINUTES IF I MEAN I TALK ABOUT THIS ALL DAY WHICH JUST TELL ME WHEN YOU WANT TO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ANY QUESTIONS AND SO THEY LAYER ON THE LOTS OF INFORMATION OF ENSURING INTERIOR GO AHEAD I HATE TO ASK SO MANY QUESTIONS BUT THIS HAS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES WITH THE OPEN THAT TRUST PROGRAM RIGHT. I MEAN WHAT'S WHAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE GREEN SPACE PROGRAM AND OPEN LAND TRUST AND WE OWN THE LAND TRUST OUR PROGRAM THAT'S WORLD CRITICAL. WELL, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ALSO RADICALS EXISTING PROGRAM THAT EXIST. THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTIES USED OVER THE TIME PERIOD TO AND BEAUFORT COUNTY PART OF THE STATE FOR EVERYBODY IN ALL THAT HAS BEEN A FRONTRUNNER THIS WAS A VERY PROGRESSIVE THING IN THE NINETIES RIGHT NOBODY ELSE IN THE STATE WAS DOING THIS.

NOW OTHER AREAS HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE GREENBELT YOU JUST USE THE PENNY TRANSPORTATION TRAILS IN COUNTY BERKELEY COUNTY, THE THREE COUNTIES IN THE CHARLESTON REGION NOW ALL

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WHAT'S THAT? THIS IS THIS IS JUST THAT'S A NICER WORD.

AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE NO. SO THAT'S THE REAL CRITICAL ANALYSIS THAT'S AVAILABLE.

THAT'S TAX ON YOUR PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT. THIS PROGRAM IS A PAIN THAT'S TAXED ON SALES SO YOU'RE TAKING OFF YOUR PROPERTY TAX. YOU'RE GENERATING REVENUE ON A COUNTY THAT GENERATES A TON OF REVENUE ON TOURISM. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GENERATING REVENUE ON TOURISM BY A PENNY. SOME COUNTIES IN THE STATE WOULD MAKE SENSE LIKE IT MIGHT HERE SO THEY MIGHT NEED TO STICK WITH THEIR PROPERTY TAXES .

BUT HERE THIS THIS IS GOING BACK TO THAT ONE SIDE OF THE TWO CARS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD PREFER ROB TALKED ABOUT LIKE DRIVING AND THAT'S GOOD TO ME I WAS THAT WAS REPRESENTED OF HORSEPOWER OF REVENUE GENERATION AND HOW QUICKLY GENTRY DID YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW MUCH WE ESTIMATE WE'VE ALREADY GENERATED A COUNTY SO I THINK TECHNICALLY IT STARTED IN MAY 1ST. IT'S WHEN IT OPENED UP BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE IN THEIR REGISTER IN BUSINESSES A LITTLE SLOW AND THEN YOU HAVE COURSE THIS COUNTY DOES THAT VERY WELL DURING ITS SUMMER AND FALL QUARTERS.

HILTON HEAD IS A MAIN DRIVER OF BUT THROUGH THAT FIRST COUPLE I THINK THE LAST THING THAT WE HAD A CANE SOMEWHERE AND SO WE'RE STILL LIKE A MONTH FURTHER ON BUT IF I HAD TO TAKE A GUESS ANIMATION OF WHERE THAT LAST ONE WAS AND THEN ADDING IN ANOTHER MONTH IT'S PROBABLY GOT ABOUT 20 MILLION SITTING IN A POT RIGHT NOW. AND SO THAT'S I MEAN THAT'S THINK ABOUT THAT THINK ABOUT HOW FAST THAT'S GENERATING REVENUE.

I KNOW THE PROGRAM ALLOWS FOR A PURCHASE OF PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY ON THERE.

DO YOU ANTICIPATE APPLICATIONS COMING PROPERTIES OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY AND IF YOU CAN YOU REVEAL WHERE I WOULD ANTICIPATE THEM BECAUSE IT ALLOWS IT THE I WOULD SAY PROBABLY MY WOULD BE YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO RECEIVE A MOSTLY IN WHAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY MORE OF A JASPER HAMPTON BEING THAT THAT'S PRIMARY WATERSHEDS RIGHT UM SO GOT TO YOU GOT TO THINK WHAT THEY DO TRANSPORTING WISE DEVELOPMENT WISE AFFECTS YOU DOWNSTREAM YOUR WATER QUALITY DOWN HERE IS DIRECTLY AFFECTED TO THEIR POLITICAL DECISIONS UP THERE AND I KNOW WE HAVE A BUNCH OF POLITICIANS THESE PROBLEMS THAT GET CREATED ARE ERROR OR POLITICAL DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE THAT CREATE THESE PROBLEMS GO BACK TO WHAT IT WAS AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT THESE SAFEGUARDS IN THIS WE WILL NOT ACCEPT APPLICATIONS IF IF I'M A LANDOWNER AND I'M NEGOTIATING WITH A MUNICIPALITY TO PULL MY LAND AND YOU CANNOT APPLY THIS PROGRAM, YOU WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT APPLICATION OR ADDITIONAL CRITERIA WHEN THE APPLICATION COMES THROUGH OUTSIDE OF YOUR COUNTY. YES.

SO THE PROGRAM REQUIRES WHEN YOU HAVE AN OUTSIDE THE COUNTY APPLICATION IN ADDITION TO ONE OF THESE BECAUSE PROBABLY WHAT YOU WOULD FIND IT WOULD BE A CONSERVATION IT COULD BE A COULD IT REALLY IT COULD BE ANY OF THESE WE DON'T WANT THAT BUT WE COULD BE ANY OF THESE.

IT REQUIRES WHAT'S CALLED AN OUT OF COUNTY ADDENDUM AND AN ADDENDUM IS VERY MUCH LIKE I THE APPLICANT I THE APPLICANT UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A HIGHER LEVEL SCRUTINY THERE IS A MUCH HIGHER SO ALL OUT OF COUNTY APPLICATIONS MINIMUM SO FOR INSTANCE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AT ALL AT TIME OF APPLICATION NEED TO SHOW A MINIMUM OF A 25% MATCH AND THE GOAL OF APPLICATIONS THE GOAL OF THE PROGRAM IS TO GET 100% MATCHES BY THE TIME WE SAID THIS LOOKS GOOD BUT THAT IS IT REQUIRES A FEW SAMPLES DON'T HAVE A MINIMUM FARMLAND POSSESSIONS DON'T KNOW THIS ONE RIGHT HERE AT MINIMUM AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION 100% MATCH IF IT HAS PUBLIC ACCESS 200% MATCH IT'S FINE DIGGING RIGHT OF IT.

THAT'S A SAFEGUARD OUT OF COUNTY APPLICATIONS RIGHT OUT OF GATE 300% MATCH.

YOU KNOW THEY'RE NOT GIVING IT AWAY YOU KNOW A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PROGRAMS AND I ONLY TO SEE THAT IN THE RULING CRITICAL MINIMUM PROGRAM WAS MORE LIKE THE COD THE YOU KNOW THAT EVERYBODY WE WANT YOU KNOW WE WANT EVERYBODY RISE AND THEN THE OTHER IT'S VERY TECHNICAL STRONGER AND BETTER FASTER AND QUICKER YEAH YEAH SO WELL IT ALSO IT JUST JUST YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE IT'S GOING TO IT'S LIKE GOTCHA AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT YOU KNOW KNOW WE HAVE STAFF MEMBERS IN HERE SO I TRY SAYING IT'S LIKE YOU ALL MAKE AN APPLICATION IT'S NOT JUST THAT THIS IS THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP WE WILL BE WORKING WITH YOUR PLANNING DEPARTMENTS ON HELPING THESE THINGS AND THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT AND THAT ORIGINAL LETTER AND TALKING HOW

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LAST QUESTION ON THAT PROMISE WHO ARE THE CURRENT MEMBERS WHO ARE PLANNING TO CURRENT MEMBERS? I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON THE WEBSITE ANYWHERE.

I FIND OUT. SO THE CHAIR IS MIKE MCSHANE HE'S A GEOGRAPHIC REPRESENTATIVE. OH GEOGRAPHICS, LET ME JUST GO I MEAN GO ON ALL THE REPRESENTATIVES. YEAH, YEAH. LET ME JUST GO ON A SLIDE ON THE SCOPE. YEAH THAT OKAY SO MEMBER ONE MEMBER WHO'S COUNTY COUNCIL OF DALLAS OKAY. AND I HAD I HAD TO APPLY HERE OH MY GOD UP IN THE HOUSE BY HE GOT INTO IT I'M OH PROCESS CONGRATULATIONS EVERYTHING YOU EVER COUNTY LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION THAT SENATOR TOM DAVIS SO THOSE OUR TWO POLITICIANS ALICE COUNCIL SENATOR TOM DAVIS TOM DAVIS WAS PRETTY MUCH THE INITIAL SPONSOR OF THE BILL AND SHOWED UP ON ALICE'S AGAIN IF YOU GO ONE SLIDE UM ONE MEMBER WHO'S KNOWLEDGEABLE THAT GEOGRAPHY CONDITION OF UTAH COUNTY LAND THAT'S MIKE MCSHANE THAT PARTICULAR POSITION SO I'LL GET A LITTLE DEEPER SPORTS OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED BE A RESIDENT MEMBER OF THE DELEGATION THIS ONE HERE THIS IS IN THE PROGRAM THIS PARTICULAR MEMBER HOW MANY GO HERE FOR MEMBERS EACH REPRESENTING THE NORTHERN EASTERN SIDE SO THESE HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS HAVE TO REMAIN LIVING THERE FOR THE COURSE OF THEIR APPOINTMENT. THOSE ARE FOUR YEAR APPOINTMENTS WE DID WE CREATED THIS FOR A STAGGERED THESE ARE ALL YOUR BASE COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR YOUR APPOINTMENTS GEOGRAPHIC REGION FOR YEARS ONE MEMBER WHO'S KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE GEOGRAPHY TO YOUR APPOINTMENT THEY'RE A FLOATER AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE COUNTY THEY DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE COUNTY DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE COUNTY SO CAN THEY REAPPOINTED OR ARE THERE TERM LIMITS? THERE ARE TERM LIMITS.

WE HAVE IT SO IT IS NOT A DOES NOT BECOME A A FIEFDOM. YES, EXACTLY.

THIS WAS ALL PART OF THE STUFF THAT WERE HAVING A STAFF KIND OF NOT JUST LIKE YOU DO THESE THINGS BUT LET'S THINK ABOUT STUFF. HOW CAN WE CASE ON THEN ALL THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW LET'S CREATE THESE THINGS ME ROB AND TOM WERE EXTENSIVELY DIGGING INTO THIS AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS MOST OF THE TIME WE AGREED ALL THE TIME WE JUST WOULDN'T ON THE NAMES. YES OKAY SO THEN SO THAT'S MIGHT NOT BE LIKE MCSHANE A IS I KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOWS BUT HE IS A VERY GREAT MAN AND HE IS THE PRETTY MUCH RUNS THE STATE BANK SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THAT A LEVERAGING OF FUNDS FOR CITIZEN MEMBERS HERE. SO HERE WE HAVE IN THE NORTH WE HAVE A GUY BY THE NAME OF TIM EVANS VERY SMART AND HE'S BEEN DOING THIS STUFF FOR A LONG TIME IN THE EAST WE HAVE A MORMON BY THE NAME OF CORAL BROUGHTON SHE'S KIND OF WORKED A LITTLE BIT WITH SOME OF THE AIR STATION DOING LAND ACQUISITION, HELPING WITH SOME THINGS.

SO REMEMBER EVERYBODY'S KIND OF HAD TO HAVE YOU HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN LEVELS OF KNOWLEDGE OF THIS STUFF IN THE SOUTH WE HAVE A GUY BY THE NAME OF PETER CHRISTIAN HE LIVES ON HILTON HEAD. HE'S VERY INVOLVED IN THEIR BORDER ZONING APPEALS AND PLANNING COMMISSION. HE GETS A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE DO NOW SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT. AND THEN IN THE WEST YOU HAVE SOMEBODY BY THE NAME OF CARL.

SHE IS AN ENGINEER BY TRADE AND SHE'S FOCUSED MORE ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL STORM.

SO WHEN WIN NOT ONLY IS IT GEOGRAPHICALLY LOOKED AT DIFFERENT SKILL SETS BUT THEY'RE BACK WORKING ON HOW WE PUT A WORKING GROUP TOGETHER. EVERYBODY'S KIND OF BRINGING SIMILAR THINGS BUT DIFFERENT THINGS. THANKS.

THANK YOU, MARK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF TOMORROW'S INFORMATION.

I'M SURE THERE'LL BE MORE DETAIL. THIS IS AN EVOLVING PROGRAM AS YOU'RE SURE, CHAIRMAN. SO STAY AND YOU'VE DONE AN AWFUL LOT IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP OR ABOUT RUNNING OUT OF TIME BEFORE EVERYBODY STARTS

[10. APPROVAL OF 2024 MEETING DATES]

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[8. LIST OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

[9. SELECTION OF NEXT MEETING AGENDA ITEM(S)]

OKAY. THE CALENDARS NORMALLY WE'LL BRING IT BACK UP BUT WELL WE CAN BRING IT BACK UP AT THE NEXT MEETING IN SEPTEMBER ABOUT IT JUST GOING ON TODAY I WAS I HAD TWO OR THREE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE WORKFORCE HOUSING COALITION THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS YEAH WE CAN HAVE THAT BECAUSE I CHRISTIAN I TELL YOU BEEN IN THE NEWS A LOT LATELY AND KNOW SOME RECENT LEGISLATION HAS OPENED UP SOME FUNDING SOURCES FOR YOU THAT ARE REALLY OKAY I'LL IF YOU WANT I'LL PUT THAT DOWN TO POTENTIAL FOR JANUARY DISCUSSION. OKAY GOOD TO HEAR WHAT SPOUSES ARE DOING AND AND THE TEST YOU KNOW THE HOUSING TRUST FUND THE TRUST FUND AND THE I KNOW WE CAN HELP YOU PUT IT TOGETHER WE HAD A WORKSHOP WE HELPED OURSELVES IT WAS EYE OPENING SOME OF THE THAT WE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED AS A COUNTY BUT I THINK JUST AS THESE ARE I THOUGHT IT MISERABLE WORK SESSION Y'ALL HAVE DONE SOME STUFF WHERE SOME RECENT LEGISLATION HAS OPENED UP HIV 15% SO FROM WORKFORCE HOUSING WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT MORE FUNDING THAT COULD USE SOME OF THAT RECENT LAND USE COMMITTEE MEETINGS I THINK SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS OUT THERE. RIGHT. OKAY A VERY WORTHY TOPIC AND THAT SHOULD COME UP WITH WARRANTS. PLEASE YEAH.

I MEAN THIS IS THIS IS ONE HOUR WE SPEND A LOT THAT'S YOUR BENEFIT FOR YOUR STAFF'S BENEFIT. SO WE WANT TO MAKE IT AS PURPOSEFUL AND MEANINGFUL TO YOU SO WE CAN GET OUR WE'LL HAVE MORE MORE SO SO WE CAN SHARE WHAT'S GOING ON ACROSS THE REGION. AND I WOULD ALSO ADD THE REGIONAL ROAD REIMAGINED AS WELL ON THAT. YEAH YEAH PUTTING WHAT'S GOING ON NOW WE BROUGHT THAT UP LAST TIME YOU KNOW I GOT IN OKAY I'M GOING DOWN YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

[7. REPORT BACK FROM SOLOCO ON GROWTH BOUNDARIES – COUNCIL MEMBER ALICE HOWARD]

YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING AS A CLOSING COMMENT ON THE GROWTH ADVISORY TASK FORCE THAT'S GOING ON UNDER THE WELL, I'M LOOKING TO THE MOA BECAUSE I DIDN'T MAKE THEIR LAST MEETING ON THE GROWTH BOUNDARY. I ACTUALLY CAN MAKE A LOT OF OH YOU KNOW THEIR WORK OKAY I THINK WE ARE STILL COMPILING BASICALLY COMPILING DATA DO YOU PLAN DEVELOPMENTS ARE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PHILADELPHIA YOU SORT OF INTERRUPT YES ALL OF THAT YEAH YEAH THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE AFTER RIGHT NOW IS JUST COMPILING DATA SO WE CAN MAP SOME THINGS AND START FOCUSING ON WHATEVER IT IS WE CHOOSE FOCUS ON BASED ON THAT MAPPING SUBCOMMITTEE GOING TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING OR I THINK THEY WILL EVENTUALLY THERE'S A LOT OF DATA GAPS I THINK SO THAT THEY NEED TO WORK ON MAYBE I WANT TO SAY JUST FOR OUR PARTY FEEL WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON THEIR DATA YEAH SO WE'RE WAITING ON THEM IT'S JUST THE RIGHT WAY. YEAH YEAH BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE FOCUS IS LARGELY SO BROAD WE HAVE THAT MUCH GROWTH BOUNDARIES OBVIOUSLY WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE ANY FINE TUNING BUT LET ME THIS

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