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WE'LL STAND UP FOR THE, UH, PLEDGE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, NATION, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF THE AGENDA.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? I MOVED.
IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE.
WE HAVE THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING THERE FOR YOU.
UH, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? CHANGES, CORRECTIONS, SCRIPT? NONE.
NOTE, I GUESS AGAIN, IS THE, I THINK I MIGHT'VE SECONDED THE MOTION TO, FOR THE MEETINGS TO GO SOUTH OF BROAD.
WE'RE NOT SHOWING A SECOND ON THAT IN MINUTES.
WE KNOW WET, UH, WETMORE HAS A LOT OF POWER, BUT I THINK HE NEEDS A SECOND PLACE.
WOULD THAT CHANGE? UH, EVERYONE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.
UM, THE, UM, WHAT I WANT TO TRY TO DO TONIGHT, IF YOU GO IN YOUR BOOK AND FLIP TO THE, THE VERY FIRST TRANSPORTATION PENNY DETAIL THAT JARED PUT IN THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF US, IT'S WRITTEN, IT'S FOR 25 YEARS WITH 5% GROWTH, WHICH BRINGS US TO 300, 3.25 BILLION.
SO WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'LL SAY, TENTATIVELY AGREED THAT WE ARE GONNA GO WITH 10 YEARS, AND JARED IS GONNA HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT 10 YEARS MEANS BASED UPON THE DATA THAT'S BEEN COLLECTED SO FAR IN PENNY, UH, GREEN PENNY, UH, SALES TAX.
SO WHAT DO WE KNOW, JARED? YOU WANT ME TO SAY THAT NOW? OR YOU WANT ME TO BRING IT UP THE SCREEN? FUTURE SALES.
TRANSPORTATION, PENNY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT? RIGHT.
ARE WE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH 10 YEARS? 10 YEARS? WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS DISCUSSION.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH 10 YEARS AND SEE IF, BASED UPON WHAT WE HAVE TO CUT OUT TO GET TO 10 YEARS, RAISES THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER 12 YEARS OR 15 YEARS OR SOMETHING.
SO, AND YOU CAN DO IT IN, I MEAN, WHATEVER INCREMENTS YOU WANT.
OR CAN YOU DO ONE THROUGH 25 OR, OKAY.
YOU CAN'T, YEAH, WE HAVE TO ASK THEM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PUT A HARD NUMBER ON THE BALLOT.
LET'S DO SOMETHING LIKE 15 OR 17 YEARS, OR 13 YEARS.
WELL, WHAT I HAVE NOTED, WHAT I NOTED LA ONCE, THE, THE FACT IS ONCE THE PENNY GOES ON THERE, YEAH.
THEY JUST, ONCE THEY PAY AND THEY DON'T, THEY FORGET ALL ABOUT IT.
BUT I THINK THAT IF YOU EVER TELL A TAXPAYER THAT THERE IS AN UNLIMITED NEVER GONNA STOP TAX.
THAT'S, WELL, THAT'S THE LOST.
SO, SO, SO WE, WE, WE, WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE LAST MEETING, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH 10.
SO LET'S SEE HOW THIS WORKS IN TERMS OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE, UH, IN OUR PROGRAM.
THIS IS, UM, WE HAVE FISCAL YEAR 22 AT THE VERY RIGHT SIDE.
UM, IT IS, YEAH, I CAN, I CAN EXPLAIN WHERE WE'RE ON THIS.
SO THIS IS OUR LAST SALES TAX, OUR 2018 SALES TAX.
SO THIS IS FISCAL YEAR, NOT CALENDAR YEAR.
SO IT STARTS FIRST QUARTER, IT'S IN JULY.
UM, SO IN 2018 IT GOT PASSED AND WE STARTED COLLECTING IN MAY OF 2019, UM, WHICH IS CONSIDERED FOURTH QUARTER.
UH, SO IT DIDN'T REALLY START KICKING UP UNTIL THE FIRST
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QUARTER OF 20, FISCAL YEAR 2020.AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE WERE THE COLLECTIONS.
THE INTERESTING THING IS THESE FOUR, UM, IS COVID AND IT REALLY DIDN'T DROP OFF THAT MUCH.
UM, SO THIS WAS MARCH, 2020 RIGHT HERE.
AND THE REASON IT WENT UP IS BECAUSE, UM, WE HAD FOLKS COME TO THE AREA FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.
SO IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TOO, WHEN I GO BACK IN HISTORY, AND I DON'T HAVE IT PULLED UP ON THIS SPREADSHEET, THE YEARS PASSED IN 20 2007, 2008 WHEN THE BANKING CRISIS WAS, UM, WE SAW A DIP, WE SAW A PLATEAU.
UM, WE WERE GROWING, GROWING, GROWING.
AND IT JUST PLATEAUED FOR TWO TO THREE YEARS.
UM, LIKE IN 2011, IT STARTED GOING BACK UP.
AND THEN WE FULLY COLLECTED, UM, IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS IN FISCAL YEAR, UH, BY OCTOBER, DECEMBER OF 22, WE WERE FULLY COLLECTED.
UM, SO THIS IS JUST SOME ANTICIPATED NUMBERS THAT I USED PRIOR TO US MEETING TO COME UP WITH FUTURE OUT YEARS.
AND THEN THIS 18 MILLION IS THE FIRST QUARTER.
UM, SO THE JULY THROUGH JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR, SINCE GREEN PACE, GREEN SPACE HAS BEEN COLLECTED.
UM, SO IT ACTUALLY HASN'T GROWN SINCE 24, BUT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING BECAUSE THIS GROWTH BETWEEN HERE WAS 21% BETWEEN THIS TO, TO, UH, FISCAL 21 AND 22.
UH, THAT'S NOT OUR, OUR NORMAL GROWTH.
IT WAS JUST EXPLOSION RIGHT HERE.
UM, SO WHAT I'VE DONE IN THE CALCULATIONS, AND I'VE UPDATED IS TO TAKE THE GROWTH FROM THIS HERE, HERE, AND FAST FORWARD IT TO, IF IT GOT APPROVED, WE WOULD START COLLECTIONS IN.
SO IT WOULD GO TO GO TO, UM, NOVEMBER 24.
UM, AND THEN IT WOULD NOT START COLLECTING UNTIL 25, UM, MAY 1ST, 2025 IF APPROVED.
SO REALLY OUR FIRST COLLECTION WOULDN'T BE REALLY UNTIL FY 26.
UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT THAT STARTING PROJECTION WOULD BE, UM, IN 20 FISCAL YEAR 25.
SO TO TAKE THAT DOWN BACK TO HERE, THIS IS THE STARTING YEAR WITH 5% GROWTH.
UM, AND THIS IS, THIS IS OUR YEARLY SELECTIONS BASED OFF OF THIS.
UM, SO TO GET TO YOUR QUESTION, AND THEN I'VE, I'VE GOT, SORRY.
THIS REALLY ISN'T A PUBLIC CONSUMPTION SPREADSHEET, JUST JARED TRYING TO DO MATH.
UH, YOU CAN SEE YEARS 11 THROUGH 20 HERE AS IT GROWS.
AND THEN YEARS 21 THROUGH 25 RIGHT HERE.
SO TO YOUR ANSWER, CHARLIE, IF YOU WANNA PICK A ODD NUMBER, YEAR 13, THIS IS YOUR NUMBER, OR IF YOU WANNA PICK A 10 YEAR.
SO WHAT WE HAD, WHAT I PROJECTED WAS 950 MILLION, UM, ON THE 10 YEAR LAST YEAR, WE SAID 700 MILLION.
THAT WAS BEFORE I GOT THE DATA.
UH, AND THEN I, I SAID, I THINK THE UPDATE WOULD BE 950.
AND THAT PROVES EVEN TRUE BECAUSE WHAT I WAS PROVIDING, THAT WAS BASED OFF OUR LAST FULL YEAR IN 22.
WE RECENTLY JUST GOT OUR FIRST YEAR OF 24, AND THE MATH COMES BACK AND SAYS 943 MILLION.
SO THAT PROJECTION, UM, THAT I PROVIDED AS WHAT THE FY WHAT THE, UH, 10 YEAR OR 15 YEAR, OR 25 YEAR IN OUR HANDOUT ACTUALLY PROVES TO BE PRETTY ACCURATE.
SO TO THE FULL 25 YEAR, IT ACTUALLY IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AT 3.5 BILLION VERSUS 3.25 BILLION.
AND WHAT GROWTH RATE DID YOU USE? THAT IS AT 5%.
AND WE'RE FINDING THAT THE LAST THREE YEARS IT WAS 20 21, 18.
SO THE, WHERE I GOT THE 5% FROM IS, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE OTHER SPREADSHEET UP AND I CAN PULL IT UP IF Y'ALL WANNA SEE IT.
SO WE'VE HAD THREE SALES TAXES, UM, THE 98, THE 2006, AND THEN THE 2018.
DURING 2018, OUR GROWTH WAS ABOUT, UM, 20%.
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THAT SUSTAINABLE? DOES THAT SOUND REALISTIC? WELL, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.LET ME, LET ME, I I THINK IT IS SUSTAINABLE IN THE SHORT TERM, LIKE THE NEXT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.
AND JUST SPEAKING FOR BLUFFTON, MM-HMM.
IN 2010, IT WAS ABOUT 15 TO 16,000.
WE ARE JUST ABOUT TO HIT 40,000 IN A DECADE.
IN THE LAST FIVE TO SIX YEARS, SPECIFICALLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MOVED INTO NEW HOUSES, AND THAT'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE PAYING SALES TAX.
YOU ALSO THROW IN THE FACT THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF AIRBNBS THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY NOW THAT ARE COLLECTING TAX AND IT'S BEING CAPTURED WHERE IT WASN'T BEFORE.
I CAN SEE IT CONTINUING TO GO UP AT A HIGHER RATE THAN THE FIVE.
YOU THROW IN, YOU ALSO THROW IN, IN MY OPINION, YOU THROW IN, UH, ESSENTIALLY A BIG CHUNK OF HARDY MILL, WHICH COMES INTO BEAUFORT COUNTY.
BUT IN FUTURE YEARS, AS THEY GROW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN SHOPPING CENTERS.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL ALL THE WAY TO SAM'S OR WALMART.
THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN STORES, BUT THEY'RE ALSO PAYING 9%
I THINK WE, WE ARE BASING THIS ON SOME NORMALCY AS FAR AS THE WEATHER, NO MORE COVID AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE FACTORS TOO, ESPECIALLY FOR US LIVING ON HILTON HEAD AND PEOPLE LIVING ON HILTON HEAD AND COMING TO HILTON HEAD.
YOU KNOW, ONE HURRICANE CAN, CAN CHANGE THE WHOLE DYNAMICS.
I'M NOT, I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT SO WE CAN BE CAUTIOUS.
AND SO, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS GOING DO THE SAME KIND OF THINKING AS FAR AS WHAT HAPPENS IF, AND, AND, BUT I DON'T THINK WE COULD SPEND UP ALL OF THIS MONEY AND GET PROJECTS COMPLETED IN, IN, IN 10 YEARS OR 15 YEARS ANYHOW.
SO THE CHALLENGES FOR US TO, UH, MOVE IT FORWARD, BUT WITH CONVINCING EVIDENCE OR CONVINCING, UH, COMMITMENT THAT, UM, SOMETHING IS GONNA BE DONE TO MAKE LIFE EASIER.
EVEN IF YOU GUYS GO UP TO 50,000 PEOPLE IN THE NEXT, UM, 20, 20 YEARS IN BLUFFTON.
'CAUSE UH, WE ARE BASICALLY GOING PUT A TOLL UP ON BEACH, PLEASE, WE'LL STOP
BUT, BUT SERIOUSLY THAT THOSE PRACTICE THOUGH, YOU KNOW, CAN MAKE A GOOD POINT.
WELL, AND, AND I GUESS WHERE I'M TALKING OUT, YOU KNOW, THINKING OUT LOUD HERE, BUT I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING IS IT FEELS TO ME THAT 5% IS TOO LOW.
WELL, SO ON THAT POINT, UM, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE SOMETHING LONG ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN REACT TO, YOU CAN GET BACK IN FRONT OF IT AND HIT 'EM.
SO, OKAY, SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE WAS A FOUR YEAR, AND WE COLLECTED IT IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
AND, AND I HAD JUST STARTED, AND I, AND THE PERSON IN FRONT OF ME WAS LEAVING.
SO THERE WASN'T A GOOD TRANSITION THERE.
BUT HAD WE BEEN IN FRONT OF IT, WE COULD HAVE RENEWED THE EXISTING SALES TAX TO CONTINUE ELECTING, UH, FOR THE ADDITIONAL YEAR AND A HALF, WHICH WE WOULD'VE HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THE LADIES ISLAND PROJECTS, THE PATHWAY PROJECTS AND THE BRIDGE PROJECTS.
WE JUST DIDN'T REACT FAST ENOUGH.
SO IF YOU HAVE A LONGER TERM, SAY YOU HAVE A 10 YEAR TERM AND IT COLLECTS IN SEVEN, YOU HAVE ENOUGH WINDOW TO SEE AHEAD OF TIME THAT, HEY, MAN, WE'RE IN YEAR FOUR.
I THINK THIS IS GONNA COLLECT EARLY.
WE NEED TO START PREPARING IN YEAR SIX TO HAVE IT READY SO IT DOESN'T SUNSET IN YEAR EIGHT.
UM, BUT CHARLESTON IS DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.
ON THE, ON THE FLIP SIDE, YOU RUN INTO, WHAT WAS IT? YOU SAID BLUFFTON PARKWAY TOOK EIGHT YEARS BEFORE A SHOVEL HIT THE GROUND.
SO WHAT CHARLESTON'S DOING, THEY HAD A, THEIR FIRST ONE IN 2004, IT WAS 25 YEARS, SO IT WOULD'VE BEEN 2029.
ORIGINALLY THEY WERE A COUPLE YEARS BACK.
THEY WERE THINKING 2027 IS WHEN IT WAS GOING TO SUNSET OR WHEN IT WAS GOING TO COLLECT.
UM, THEY'VE REVISED IT AND NOW THEY THINK IT'S 2025 BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE GROWTH AND THIS AND THE DIFFERENCE, UM, BETWEEN WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT WAS PROJECTED.
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UM, SO THEY ARE PREPARING JUST AS WE ARE PREPARING NOW IN 23 FOR A REFERENDUM IN 24 TO SET THEMSELVES UP TO RENEW A 25 YEAR PENNY AT THE CONCLUSION, WHENEVER 25 OR 26, WHENEVER IT HITS, IT WILL ALREADY BE SET AND READY TO GO.SO THEY COLLECTED FOUR OR FIVE YEARS FASTER THAN THEY ANTICIPATED, BUT THEY HAD ENOUGH TO YOUR POINT, ENOUGH WINDOW TO REACT AND ENOUGH OPPORTUNITY TO CONSTRUCT PROJECTS TO CONVINCE VOTERS THAT YES, WORD IS WORTHWHILE TO, TO, UM, SHOW YOU WHERE THE, UM, CHARLESTON COUNTY, LET'S SEE IF I GOT A SUMMARY.
SO THIS IS, YEAH, 24% GROWTH RATE, UM, THAT WE HAVE JUST BECAUSE IT COLLECTED IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
SO, UH, NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM IS 24.5%, UM, MAINTAINABLE, UM, TO PROJECT FOR 25 YEARS.
SO CHARLESTON, IF YOU LOOK AT CHARLESTON'S NUMBERS, UM, SO THIS IS JUST A HALF A PENNY, AND THEN THEIR OTHER HALF PENNY STARTED IN 2016.
UM, YOU CAN SEE OVER THE LAST 17 YEARS, THEIRS IS AT 5%.
UM, SO, AND, AND THEY'VE HAD EXPLOSIVE GROWTH IN THESE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
SO, UM, ANYHOW, IT, IF YOU PLAY WITH IT, YOU CAN MAKE IT ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO BE.
AM I READING, AND PLEASE JUST HOLD MY HAND HERE.
AM I READING THAT WE WERE AT 5% IN CHARLESTON ON A HALF A PENNY FOR ALL THOSE YEARS THEN 1, 2, 3, 6 YEARS AGO, THEY SAID, NO, WE'RE DOING MORE GROWTH THAN THAT.
NO, TWO DIFFERENT AREAS INTERRUPTED.
THE DIFFERENCE IS THE TIME HORIZON.
SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING GROWTH RATE, YOU'RE USING THE, UH, FIRST YEAR IN THE LAST YEAR IN THE, IN THE FORMULA HERE.
UM, AND SO THIS ONE, YOU'RE USING THE FORMULA, THE SAME FORMULA IS, IS THE YEARS ARE DIFFERENT.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT IS, SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS, AND THE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FIRST, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE LAST FOUR YEARS AND YOU STOPPED AT 55 MILLION FROM 37, YOU WOULD PROBABLY SEE SOMETHING LESS THAN 5%.
UM, AND THEN HERE TO HERE, YOU'RE AT 9%.
SO WHEN YOU AVERAGE THE LAST FOUR YEARS, GOT IT.
WITH THE FIRST 10 YEARS, YOU'RE AT 5% BASICALLY.
BUT IF YOU TAKE THE CHARLESTON ONE A CHARLESTON ONE B IN DORCHESTER, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROBABLY LANDING AROUND 7% GROWTH.
WELL, SO DORCHESTER'S ANOTHER GOOD ONE.
YOU SEE THERE'S THIS, THOSE ARE THE LONGEST TWO COLLECTION DATAS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
UM, AND, AND THEY WENT THROUGH A RECESSION AND, AND YOU CAN SEE IT WENT THROUGH RECESSION CHA LOOK AT, UM, 2009.
THIS IS ACTUAL COLLECTION YEAR FROM THEM.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IT BASICALLY STAYED THE SAME.
IT WENT DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS IT WENT UP.
THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY THE GROWTH, IF, IF WE DID THE GROWTH RATE FROM 2006 ON CHARLESTON AND, AND WE WENT TO 2014, IT WOULDN'T BE THAT LARGE BECAUSE YOU HAD A LULL THERE IN, IN THE, UM, FOUR YEARS AFTER 2008.
UH, SO IT DID GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN CHARLESTON, IN, IN, UM, DORCHESTER, YOU GOT 2008.
IT ONLY WENT DOWN 200,000 FOR TWO YEARS, AND THEN IT WENT, WENT BACK UP.
UM, BEAUFORT COUNTY, IT DOESN'T REFLECT OUR 2006 SALES TAX.
I THINK I HAVE ANOTHER SHEET SOMEWHERE THAT DOES.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, SO JUST TO GET BACK TO THE OTHER ONE, YOU CAN PLAY WITH THIS NUMBER ALL DAY LONG.
SO IF YOU WANNA REALLY SEE CRAZY AND YOU CALL A 7.5% GROWTH RATE, UM, WELL, I THINK, I THINK THE, THE, THE, IT'S, THE SECRET IS, IS TO SAY, WELL, YEAH, IT'S REAL CRAZY.
HOW MUCH DO WE WANNA RAISE? ALRIGHT.
AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS TAKE A, A, A, A MODEST GROWTH RATE PROJECT THAT, UM, AGAINST THAT AND SAY, IF WE WANNA RAISE 10 MILLION, WE, WE SAY, UM, 10 MILLION OR 12 YEARS, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST MM-HMM,
SO THAT IF WE GET TO 12 YEARS, WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT WE'RE GONNA BE, WE'RE GONNA BE WELL OVER 10, YOU KNOW, UH, OVER A BILLION.
UH, IF WE, IF IF IT GETS TO A BILLION BEFORE 10 YEARS AND WE'VE GOT A BILLION, AND WE'LL, WE'LL KNOW AS JUDGE JARED SAID AHEAD OF THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE NEED, WE NEED TO START TAKING ACTION TO PREPARE OURSELVES TO TAKE THE NEXT ONE, PUT THE NEXT ONE IN PLACE.
AND SO IF WE COLLECT THE MONEY AND IT SUNDOWNS BEFORE THE 12 YEARS, LET'S SAY UNDER YEAR SCENARIO, THEN IN YEAR 10, ASSUMING IT'S SUNDOWNS, THEN WE PREPARE
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FOR A REFERENDUM THAT SAYS, BECAUSE WE COLLECTED THE MONEY SOONER THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'D NOW LIKE TO ASK FOR ANOTHER X NUMBER OF YEARS FOR, AND YOU REALLY STARTED THAT PREPARATION WHILE WE'RE DOING HERE NOW IN YEAR SEVEN OR EIGHT.SO, BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, AND I DON'T, I DIDN'T GET THE ANSWER, SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT WHAT, WHICH PROGRAMS CAN GO ON EVEN OR ODD YEARS? SO YOU HAVE TO LINE THAT UP TOO.
UM, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE TO BE THREE YEARS OUT IN ORDER TO GET ON A ODD YEAR OR EVEN YOUR REFERENDUM TO BEFORE IT SUNSETS, YOU KNOW, I DEER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, WE ARE ARE, BASED UPON THE PROJECTION WE HAVE FOR 10 YEARS, WE ARE CLOSE TO A BILLION DOLLARS, 940 MILLION, MILLION 50 MILLION, NINE 40.
UM, SO, UM, WE KIND OF SAID WE WANT TO GO WITH 10 YEARS.
UM, I THINK WE SHOULD START THINKING ABOUT IF WE GO, IF WE GO TO, TO WHAT JARED PROPOSED FOR HIS, UH, TRANSPORTATION PENNY SHEET THAT WE HAVE, WAS IT 25 YEARS WITH 5% GROWTH? AND, UM, I KNOCKED THAT DOWN ASSUMING A HUNDRED MILLION.
UM, I DID NOTE THAT WE HAD 101,625 MILLION, BUT IT, IT, I GUESS THAT'S THE SAME AS 1.625 BILLION.
I JUST TRIED TO KEEP IT ALL IN THE SAME MILLIONS, BUT
BUT ANYWAY, UM, THE, UM, WE, WE HAVE, IT'S BEEN BROKEN DOWN INTO 3, 3, 4 CATEGORIES.
UH, THE PROGRAM APPROACH, WHICH SIMPLY TAKES DOLLARS AND ALLOCATES THEM INTO CATEGORIES WITHOUT NAMING SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
THEN THEY HAVE THE BIG PROJECTS, UH, WHICH ARE ALL LISTED.
AND THEN WE HAVE, AS WE DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK, UH, THE, THE DONOR FUNDS, THE, THE MONIES THAT WE MIGHT OR MIGHT WISH TO ALLOCATE OUT TO OUR ADJACENT COUNTIES.
AND THE PERCENTAGES ARE ALLOCATED THERE BETWEEN 50% FOR THE PROJECTS, UM, 35% FOR THE BIG PROJECTS, 5% FOR THE GREEN BELTS, AND 10% FOR TO FUNDS.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO, IF, IF WE KEEP THE PERCENTAGES THE SAME IN THE PROJECT PROGRAMS, WE DON'T NEED TO SCREW AROUND WITH THAT.
I MEAN, THAT SIMPLY MEANS THAT INSTEAD OF 30% OF 300, 3.25 BILLION, WE ARE GOING, UH, 30% OF, UH, A BILLION.
YOU, I GUESS YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SCREW WITH THEM, UH, TO LOOK AT THEM, DEAN, BECAUSE WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES AND WHAT'S THE CRITICAL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE RIGHT WITHIN THE NEXT 10 YEARS OR 15 YEARS OR WHATEVER JART SAYS WOULD BE THE, WOULD BE MY THINKING AS FAR AS, SO WE NEED SOME SPECIFICITY, SPECIFICITY IN THOSE CATEGORIES FOR US TO THINK ABOUT.
UH, SO WHEN THE CITIZENS LOOK AT IT, THEY CAN SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO FINISH THAT BRIDGE TO THE FA SCALE.
ARE WE GOING DO SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S CRITICAL AS FAR AS THIS LISTING IS CONCERNED? WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY ADDRESSED ON THERE BECAUSE THE, THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE THE MONEY HAS, THE LAST ITEM HAS FUTURE PROJECTS, 693 MILLION.
SO IF YOU TAKE WHATEVER THE REDUCTION IS OUTTA THAT FUTURE PROJECTS, EVERY, EVERYTHING WE CAME UP WITH LAST YEAR IS STILL ON THERE AND STILL FULLY FUNDED AT THAT AMOUNT.
BUT I DID IT PRIORITIES AT THIS POINT.
AND, AND THE WE'D NEED PROBABLY PRIORITIES IN THE PROJECT PROGRAMS. YEAH.
PROJECTS, UM, YOU KNOW, SAFETY AND TRACK.
AND THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION COMES DOWN TO HOW MUCH DETAIL DO YOU EXPECT TO PUT IN THE REFERENDUM DOCUMENTS? WELL, I THINK THAT THE LAST REFERENDUM TUESDAY ONE, BECAUSE THERE WAS A, A, A, SOME LOVE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BRIDGE.
THERE WAS A MIDDLE SCHOOL HERE AND HIGH SCHOOL THERE.
AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE COULD LATCH ON.
WE ARE GETTING, I KNOW FOR ME, WE'RE GETTING A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
WE'RE GONNA VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
THEY'RE GETTING THAT NEW HIGH SCHOOL, I THINK THE SAME KIND OF PROMISE SHOULD BE IN.
ONE BILL, YOU KNOW, IF I WAS LOOKING AT IT, 1 7 7
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POINT A HALF PERCENT GROWTH, 10 YEARS WAS CLOSE TO 1 BILLION.IT WAS, WELL, WITH THE SEVEN POINT HALF SEVEN AND HALF WAS HIGHER OVER A BILLION, BUT YEAH, IT WAS OVER A BILLION.
IF WE DO 10 YEARS AND WE DO A BILLION, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO HAVE BIG EYES ON BIG PRIZES THAT AFFECT EVERYONE, BOTH SIDES.
AND I SHOULDN'T, I DON'T WANT BOTH SIDES, BUT EVERYONE, EVERYONE.
WELL THAT'S WHERE THE BIG PROJECT LIST COMES IN BECAUSE RIGHT.
UM, YOU'VE GOT, WHEN YOU SAY THE TRIANGLE, I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT IS 2 78, UH, ONE 70 AND ARJUN AR BOULEVARD, EVEN THOUGH AGIN BOULEVARD IS IN JASPER COUNTY? THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT'S NOT A TOTAL PRICE OF THE TRIANGLE.
THAT WOULD BE OUR SHARE OF THE TRIANGLE, OUR SHARE AT THE TRIANGLE AND THAT UP OCTOBER.
ARE YOU TURING FLYOVERS AND STUFF? IS THAT IS WHAT WE'RE PICTURING? UH, SORT OF, UH, NOT SPECIFICALLY RIGHT IN THIS MOMENT.
UM, THOSE WOULD BE LATER PROJECTS.
SO RIGHT NOW THE TRIANGLE WOULD INCLUDE WIDENING OF ALL THREE OF THOSE ROADS, UM, AT SOME POINT.
AND IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERCHANGE OF 1 72, 7 8.
RIGHT NOW, WE CAN STILL SQUEAK OUT MORE USE OF THE INTERCHANGE WITHOUT DOING MAJOR SURGERY AFTER WE DO THE NEXT IMPROVEMENT.
THE NEXT STEP WHEN WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MODIFY FOR GROWTH AND, AND TRANSPORTATION WILL BE AN INTERCHANGE WITH FLYOVERS AND SUCH.
BUT THAT IS 15, 20, 25 YEARS AWAY, WE CAN SQUEAK SOME MORE USE OUT OF THIS CURRENT CONFIGURATION WITH SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS.
NOW WE ALL DO KNOW THAT THAT WILL BE SEEN AS NOT US.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE SEEN AS.
NOW MAYBE THAT'S NOT RIGHT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S OVER THERE.
I DON'T LIKE GOING OVER THERE.
I DON'T DO MY SHOPPING OVER THERE.
SO WHAT WOULD BE REBO ROAD WOULD BE THE REBO ROAD IS 75 90 AND THE COMPLETION OF LADIES ISLAND CORRIDOR WITH THE AND ROAD TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS.
AND PART OF THE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS AT HILTON HEAD, BUT THERE'S SOME PROBLEM.
UM, WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE AIRPORT NORTH, UH, BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT IS WE'VE GOT A NOTICE FROM FAA THAT HEY, YOU'VE GOT TO, UM, MODIFY YOUR RUNWAY SAFETY AREAS.
BASICALLY YOU'VE GOT TO EXPAND YOUR, IT'S KIND OF DUMB, BUT, UM, EXPAND YOUR RUNWAY OF SAFETY AREA AND, AND BUILD OUT INTO THE MARSH, OR WE'RE GOING TO SHORTEN YOUR RUNWAY IF YOU SHORTEN THE RUNWAY THAT AIRPORT EVAPORATES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
UM, SO WE'VE GOT $6 MILLION WORTH OF MITIGATION TO WHY TO LENGTHEN, NOT THE ASPHALT, JUST THE GRASS FIELD BY 150 FEET, ONE DIRECTION AND 300 FEET IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.
BOTH ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MARSH.
SO IT JUST INFILL DIRT INFILL, UNFORTUNATELY.
AND DHES GONNA LET YOU DO THAT.
I MEAN, YOU THINK A MARSH WOULD BE QUESTION PRETTY SAFE, SAFE AREA.
ANYWAYS, ANYWAYS, THAT'S, SO THAT PROJECT, AND OF COURSE, TAKE YOUR TIME.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT'S, THAT ONLY AFFECTS PEOPLE WITH PLANES.
AND THAT'S A VERY, VERY SMALL PORTION OF OUR NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY WORKING PEOPLE.
THERE ARE A COUPLE LITTLE ISLANDS THAT HAVE PEOPLE WITH PRIVATE JETS, AND THAT'S ALL LIGHT DELIGHTFUL.
BUT MY OPINION IS, MOST OF MY PEERS, MOST OF MY WORKING CLASS PEERS WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED IN THAT.
I THINK, AND OF COURSE THAT DEPENDS ON THE STATUTE CHANGING, RIGHT? RIGHT.
IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE AIRPORT, WHICH YOU CAN'T DO BEFORE WE RUN THIS IN WORDS, IF WE RUN THIS IN 24, WE CAN'T BE IN THAT.
SO THE, THE STATUTE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DEFINITION IS AT, I ADD THE, UM, STATE HOUSE NOW.
SO IT EITHER GETS APPROVED THIS SESSION FROM JANUARY TO JUNE OF 24 MM-HMM.
UM, BUT TO YOUR POINT, CAROL, UM, NORTH OF THE BROAD TRAFFIC IS NOT THE SAME AS SOUTH OF THE BROAD TRAFFIC.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE MORE MAJOR MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS IN THE SOUTH.
THEY JUST DON'T COST AS MUCH AND LOOK AS BIG ON THE BIG PROJECTS.
WELL, AND TO ADD TO IT, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COMMUNICATE THIS TO THE VOTING PUBLIC, MOST OF THE TAXES
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ARE GONNA BE COLLECTED RIGHT.SO I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE THING NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT.
'CAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE THE VERY FIRST THING EVERYONE'S GONNA SAY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
AND YOU ALL CAN KICK ME OFF YOUR COMMITTEE IF YOU'D LIKE.
BUT WE CANNOT HAVE A FULL AND COMPLETE DISCUSSION ABOUT TRANSPORTATION SAFETY WITHOUT DISCUSSION ABOUT THIRD BRIDGE.
SO I HAVE YOUR ANSWER FOR THAT THIRD BRIDGE.
WE ARE IN TROUBLE IN, IN NORTHERN BUFORT COUNTY WHEN AN EVACUATION OCCURS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE NOTICED, BUT THE LAST TWO STORMS THAT HAVE COME ACROSS FLORIDA, I'M LAUGHING BECAUSE WE'RE IN TROUBLE ON SOUTHERN BEFORD COUNTY TOO.
AND JASPER COUNTY'S OUR SOLUTION.
SO I HAVE YOUR, YOUR REBUTTAL TO THAT, YOUR ANSWER TO THAT.
IS THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT.
UM, AND THAT LAPSE IS THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNER IN THE AREA.
THEY HAVE THAT AS WELL AS A SECOND BRIDGE TO HILTON HEAD.
A DUE DILIGENCE ON BOTH THOSE IN THE COMING YEARS PLEDGED IN THEIR TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
SO IF A PLAN, IF, IF WE HAD A LONG-TERM SALES TAX AND A PROJECT CAME OFF THAT DUE DILIGENCE, THAT WOULD BE THIS FUTURE PROJECT AREA, HOW YOU COULD, IT'S UNALLOCATED FUNDS TOWARDS BIG PROJECTS.
SO IF A IN 10 YEARS WE WERE READY TO DO A THIRD BRIDGE TO LADIES ISLAND, YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY BUILT INTO A TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX TO MOVE THAT, THAT WOULD BE COUNTY COUNCIL AND MAKE THAT DECISION TO MOVE THAT MOTION.
SHOULD WE MENTION THE HILTON HAD ONE THOUGH? 'CAUSE THEY WANNA BURN DOWN THE ONE THEY HAVE, RIGHT? MORRIS? YES.
WELL, JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS, OKAY, CAROL, WE'VE BUILT INTO THIS SOME CHEESE TO GET TO, TO, TO BE A BAIT FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMING IN AND SAYING, WE'RE GONNA HELP BUILD THAT BRIDGE.
AND SINCE YOU ALL HAVE MONEY AND YOU ALL ARE ON THE BALL, AND YOU, IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING DONORS, IF WE EVER DO THAT, WE'RE ONLY GONNA DO IT FOR THE COUNTIES THAT ACTUALLY ARE HELPING THEMSELVES.
YOU KNOW, BEN FRANKLIN, WE ONLY HELP THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES.
SO IS THIS THE KIND OF LIKE BAIT TO SAY WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT, LET'S GET THAT DOWN HERE TO THE, TO SOUTH CAROLINA.
THAT IS HOW WE GO GET FEDERAL FUNDS.
THE FEDS ARE NOT GONNA BE THE ONES THAT COME AND IMPLEMENT THAT PROJECT.
IT'S GOTTA BE ENVISIONED AT A LOCAL LEVEL AND THEN BROUGHT UP, AND THEN THE WAY YOU BRING FUNDS, SO YOU BRING THE VISION UP, AND THEN THE WAY YOU BRING THE FUNDS BACK IS BEFORE YOU SEND THAT VISION UP, YOU SEND IT UP WITH YOUR LOCAL FUNDS TO SAY, HEY, I DO HAVE STUFF.
SO YOU'RE NOT JUST LIKE A BANK.
YOU'RE NOT DOING A 95% LOAN TO VALUE.
YOU'RE DOING A 50% LOAN TO VALUE, AND THEN THE FUNDS COME BACK DOWN.
AND THAT'S THAT 6 93 THAT YOU'RE WRITING IN THERE.
HOW DID JUST, AND I DON'T WANNA GET OFF THE BEAM TOO FAR, HOW DID WE GET THAT, UH, UH, HARBOR ISLAND BRIDGE? WOW.
IS THAT THING FABULOUS? WHO PAID FOR THAT? THE PRIVATE CITIZENS ON TRIP ISLAND.
OH, YOU'RE WELCOME, EVERYBODY.
SO THAT WAS OUR MOST STRUCTURALLY DEFICIENT BRIDGE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
AND SO IT WAS RE REPLACED WITH BY DOT.
SO THE STATE CAME IN AND PAID FOR THAT.
AND THE WAY IT GOT PAID FOR IS IT WAS IN DEFICIENT, DEFICIENT MANNER.
UH, AND THEY'RE ACTIVELY TRYING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SWING BRIDGES THAT THEY HAVE.
SO THAT BRIDGE GOT REPLACED, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE DEFICIENT LIST.
THE ONLY OTHER BRIDGE THAT'S OF SIGNIFICANCE THAT'S ON THAT IS ONE OF THE FOUR BRIDGES THE HILTON HIT.
WHICH TO YOUR POINT, UM, IN RECENT CONVERSATIONS WITH DOT, THAT BRIDGE IS NOT AS BAD AS A LOT OF OTHER, THEY'VE GOT 8,000 BRIDGES IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, OF WHICH A THOUSAND ARE IN DISREPAIR.
AND THE ONE GOING TO HILTON HEAD ONE OUT OF THE FLOOR IS WAY BETTER THAN 700 ON THAT LIST.
SO THEY WOULD GLADLY USE THAT MONEY AND PUT IT ELSEWHERE IF WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO BUILD THE, GET THIS DONE BRIDGE TO HELP GET THIS DONE.
BUT THEY'RE CONSTANTLY WORKING ON THIS BRIDGE.
$500,000 FOR ARMS, FOR ARMS, 500 GRAND WORKING ON THAT BRIDGE.
IT'S ON THAT'S A HISTORIC PROTECTED HISTORIC.
WHAT ARE YOU GLAD ABOUT? OH YEAH.
KEEPING THAT BRIDGE AS, AS IT'S, YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ICONIC BRIDGE AND NO, I DIDN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, TEAR
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IT DOWN OR NOTHING.I'M JUST SAYING, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS MONEY.
UM, NOW WE, I GUESS UNDER THE EMERGENCIES, WHAT SAFETY AND TRANSPORTATION, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS, UM, BEING ABLE TO RAISE UP THOSE ROADS THAT, THAT FLOOD OVER ON ST.
THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT LAST TIME.
SO TO ME, THIS WOULD BE LIKE, SO WE'RE ACTIVELY IS DOING A RESILIENCY PLAN AND SPECIFICALLY GEARED TOWARDS ROADS.
AND SO WHAT OF OUR, WHAT OF OUR ROADS THAT ARE CAUSEWAYS, UM, EITHER COULD BE RAISED OR CONVERTED TO BRIDGES IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THOSE ISLANDERS HAVE SAFE ACCESS, UM, TO AND FROM DURING A POST STORM.
OR, UH, UH, AGAIN, EMERGENCY EVACUATION.
IF WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING, UM, ON 46 GOING OUT, THAT'S A EMERGENCY, OR 21 ACTUALLY WILL BRANCH, UM, ONE SIDE FLOODS BEFORE THE OTHER SIDE FLOODS.
THERE'S ABOUT A FOOT AND A HALF DIFFERENCE.
UM, SO WE HAVE TWO BRIDGES, BUT DURING A HIGH, HIGH TIDE, ONLY ONE OF 'EM, NOT HIGH TIDE, BUT A SURGE, ONE OF 'EM DOWN.
NO, I WOULD THINK MENTIONING THOSE PROJECTS ARE CALLING THEM OUT WOULD DEFINITELY GET PEOPLE TO VOTE ON.
I MEAN, THEY FALL UP UNDER THAT UMBRELLA, BUT IF THEY JUST UP UNDER THAT UMBRELLA AND PEOPLE DON'T, YOU KNOW, SO THE, THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION IS OBVIOUSLY IN THE BIG PROJECTS WE CAN BE SPECIFIC PROJECT BY PROJECT.
IN THE PROJECT PROGRAMS. WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE SEEING, I THINK IS FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE PROJECT PROGRAMS, WE OUGHT TO HAVE ONE OR TWO EXAMPLES, RIGHT.
SUCH AS MAY, YOU KNOW, IF NECESSARY.
THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY ON, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS I'M SO USED TO BUREAUCRACY, BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO PUT THE NEED WITH THE APPETITE OF THE PEOPLE.
AND JARED AND THE WHOLE STATE AND EVERYONE ELSE CAN HELP US DEFINE WHAT ARE CONSIDERED NEEDS THAT WE'VE GOT TO CONVINCE THE PUBLIC OF.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE NEEDS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOME GENERAL THINGS TODAY.
BUT WHAT WILL BE THE NEED FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN WE CAN'T GET FROM HILTON HEAD? ONE ACCIDENT TODAY CAUSED ME TO BE, CAUSED ME TO BE 20 MINUTES LATE.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE FOUR LAND ROAD.
SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DEPEND ON OUR PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE TO SAY, WELL, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING WITH THE TRIANGLE, WE DON'T DO SOMETHING WITH THE LOW RULES ON WARSAW AND SAW, THEN WE ARE GOING TO JEOPARDIZE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE, THAT'S GONNA BE THE THING THAT'S GOING TO HURT.
I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO WIN IT.
THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE, HEALTH AND SAFETY OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE.
THE CHALLENGES THAT WE NEED TO PROMOTE, UM, RIGHT.
THERE'S TWO THINGS GOING ON HERE.
ONE IS, IN MY OPINION, IS HOW DO WE PHRASE THE ASK, IN OTHER WORDS, THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT THAT'S GONNA BE ON THE BE ON THE VOTING BOOTH.
IN THE VOTING BOOTH FOR PEOPLE TO SAY YAY OR NAYYY.
WHAT, HOW DOES THAT READ? LIKE, AND, AND WHAT INFORMATION IS IN? BECAUSE THAT'LL BE THE THING THAT CAN BE EASILY DISTRIBUTED EVERYWHERE AND PEOPLE CAN READ IT AND LOOK AT, NOW WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR CAMPAIGNING FOR AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT, WE ARE JUST HAVE TO CONVINCE COUNSELING
HOW DO WE MAKE IT A REFERENDUM QUESTION THAT'S READABLE AND THAT SPEAKS TO PEOPLE, RIGHT? HEALTH AND SAFETY, HEALTH, MY BACKYARD, I'M GONNA SEE SOME OF THIS.
IT'S, UH, AND I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT.
I SOMEHOW PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW, WHAT WAS IT? 40 CENTS OUT OF EVERY DOLLAR IS PAID BY VACATIONERS.
SO, SO THE QUESTION ITSELF ON THE BALLOT ON THE REFERENDUM IS NOT A IN PARAGRAPH FORM.
IT'S NOT A PROS, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY DIRECT AND CHOPPY AND IT'S NOT A, UM, DESCRIPTION OF EVERYTHING.
THE SCHOOL BOARD ONE LISTED PROJECTS THOUGH.
SO THERE'S AN ABILITY TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
SO, SO THIS SECTION, AND HILTON HAD ACTUALLY ASKED IF WE COULD TOWN STAFF, IF WE COULD MOVE THIS SECTION ABOVE THIS SECTION, WHICH, UM, BECAUSE YOU ARE SPECIFICALLY LISTING PROJECT TRIANGLE PROJECTS,
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YOU'RE LISTING THE PROJECT.UM, CAN IT BE WRITTEN IN BULLET? BUT WE CAN DO THAT TOO.
I MEAN, IT, IT, YEAH, DEFINITELY YOU'D WANT THAT AT THE FIRST AND THEN, AND THEN YOUR INFORMATION.
SO YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
YOU HAVE INFORMATION WHICH THE COUNTY CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION WHAT THESE PROJECTS ENTAIL OR WHAT ARE THE, LIKE AS OR SO LONG AS.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS ABOVE AND BEYOND INFORMATION.
UH, SO THERE'S ALMOST THREE DOCUMENTS.
ONE IS THE QUESTION, TWO IS THE BACKUP, AND THREE IS WHY YOU SHOULD SUPPORT THIS FOR THAT.
THE COUNTY PRINT INFORMATIONAL BROCHURES, BUT NOT MARKET.
SO LAST TIME IN 2018, WE HAD PAMPHLETS THAT DE IT WAS LIKE A, SO WE HAD THREE PROJECTS, THE 2 78, THE LADIES ISLAND AND THE PATHWAYS.
AND IT, IT WOULD SAY IT WAS VERY GENERIC.
IT WAS THAT HERE'S THE PROGRAM, HERE'S THE PROJECT LIST, HERE'S THE SUBHEADINGS UNDER THE PROJECT.
AND THAT WAS IN A PAMPHLET FORMAT, BUT THERE WAS NO PROPAGANDA ON IT.
BUT THAT WAS, I REMEMBER THOSE PAMPHLETS BEING AVAILABLE.
CAN SOMETHING LIKE THAT SAY THAT APPROXIMATELY 40% OF THE FUNDS COLLECTED ARE FROM TOURISTS? OR CAN IT NOT GO THAT FAR? BECAUSE THAT'S, I THINK IT'S TOUGH.
OH, THAT'S A GREAT, SO THE GREAT TAG WOULD BE FOR, FOR THERE TO BE ANOTHER GROUP.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA, BUT I THINK THERE'S, THEY CAN GET IT.
THAT COULD, I THINK, I THINK THE LOCAL CHAMBERS NEED BUY-IN RIGHT.
I THINK THE VISITORS BUREAU PROBABLY HAS THE BEST DATA 'CAUSE THEY'VE GOT CELL PHONE DATA THAT THEY CAN, BUT YES, I DID ASK, UM, HORRY COUNTY, I SAW THEM LAST WEEK AT A CONFERENCE AND ASKED THEM ABOUT THEIR SPLIT.
'CAUSE THEY MENTIONED A LOT OF PAID BY TOURISTS.
AND I ASKED THEM, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER, BUT THEY SAID THEIRS WAS 60% PAID BY TOUR.
SO I WAS LIKE, WELL, HOW'D YOU COME UP WITH THAT? HE'S LIKE, WELL, IT'S, IT'S ROUGHLY 60%.
HE DIDN'T, HE DIDN'T REALLY ANSWER HOW YOU CAME UP WITH IT.
SOUNDS LIKE OURS MIGHT BE 60%.
YOU KNOW WHAT, ON HILTON HEAD, I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE, I, I MEAN I I I, I ALWAYS WAS SURPRISED THAT IT WASN'T 60 40.
THAT 40% IS PAID BY THE, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.
SO, UM, IF WE, UM, IF WE WANNA STICK WITH 10 YEARS, UM, WE THEN WE NEED TO GO LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE LIST THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US AND THE BIG PROJECTS.
WE CAN PUT THE BIG PROJECTS ON TOP.
SO IF, IF, IF WE'RE PUTTING, UH, WE'RE PUTTING 350 BILLION INTO THAT, OF WHICH, UM, UH, AND NO, WE'RE PUTTING 1.38 BILLION IN, OF WHICH 693 BILLION IS FOR THE FUTURE SOMETIME, RIGHT? YEAH.
IT'S 4 45 IS WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE.
THE PROJECTS WITHOUT THE 6 93 IS 4 45, WHICH LEAVES 5 55 FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.
WHETHER IT'S ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, WHETHER IT'S THE OTHERS.
AM I OUTTA LINE SAYING THAT I'M KIND OF BURNT BY THE FOUR YEAR WE COLLECTED IT IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
THERE WAS A CHANGE IN ADMINISTRATION.
WE DIDN'T GET AHEAD OF, IT WASN'T ENOUGH TIME.
I ALMOST THINK AIR ON THE SIDE OF TOO LONG, MAYBE NOT 25, BUT MAYBE 15.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT HERE AND I FEEL VERY STRONGLY, AND I'M NOT CERTAINLY NOT CRITICIZING YOUR WORK AT ALL, BUT I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT 5% GROWTH IS WOEFULLY UNDER WHAT REALITY IS.
I'M NOT AN ECONOMIST AND, AND NO, I KNOW.
AND NOR AM I, AND I'M, I'M JUST KIND OF SPIT BALLING BY BASIC LIVING HERE THAT IT'S NOT 5%, IT'S CLOSER TO 10%.
IN MY OPINION, IT'S PROBABLY HIGHER THAN THAT.
UH, BUT MAYBE WE DO 7%, SEVEN, SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND, AND DO 15 YEARS.
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GIVES US, LET'S SAY THAT GIVES US, OR WE DO 5%, WE DO 15 YEARS AND WE KNOW AT YEAR 10 WE CAN COME AND SAY, LOOK, TA-DA, WE'VE DONE ALL THIS.I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A HARD, YOU'RE TRYING TO SHOOT FOR AS LONG AS YOU CAN, BUT NOT UNDERSHOOT IT.
IT'S A REAL CAROL, YOU AND I ARE ON THE SAME PAGE.
I WANT, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE SEE IT.
I'M NOT ON THAT PAGE AT THIS POINT.
I'M NOT ON THAT PAGE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, I THOUGHT THAT I SHARED FIRST THOSE UNKNOWNS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN IS A, IS A, IS A QUESTION THAT ANSWER I'D LIKE TO, UH, PROJECT ON A CONSERVATIVE SIDE OR, OR, OR LOW BALLING SIDE.
AND JUST LET IT BE A SURPRISE AT THE END FOR THE CITIZENS AS WELL AS FOR US.
UM, THE PLANNING OF THE PROJECTS AND GETTING PROJECTS ON THE GROUND IS CRITICAL FOR US TO GET TO THE NEXT LEVEL ANYHOW.
JARED, YOU CAN GIVE JARED ALL THE MONEY TOMORROW AND IT'LL TAKE HIM PROBABLY 30 YEARS TO FINISH THESE PROJECTS.
AND WHAT HAVE YOU ACCOMPLISHED EXCEPT TO STORE THE STORE THE DOLLARS AND CENTS.
I, I DON'T WANT US TO, UM, BE TOO AGGRESSIVE AS FAR AS THOSE PROJECTIONS.
WELL THAT'S, I I WAS ACTUALLY HEADING THAT WAY.
I WAS GONNA SAY THE YEARS I AGREE WITH.
THE MORE I THINK ABOUT THE, I THINK SEVEN AND A HALF TO 10 IS ACCURATE, BUT IF WE GO FIVE, THEN WE WE'RE HAPPY.
THE LONGER YEARS WE STILL CAN SEE SOME CONSTRUCTION ON THE GROUND.
MY CONCERN IS NOT SEEING SOMETHING BUILT, THE QUESTION IS, IS IS THE THREE QUESTIONS, ONE IS THE BIG NUMBER, WHAT'S THE NUMBER? YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WHAT ON THAT BALANCE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SAY X DOLLARS OR X YEARS, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.
RIGHT? I THINK BILLION IS TOO SCARY.
15 YEAR AT FIVE, RIGHT? 15 AT FIVE WOULD GIVE US THE SAME RESULTS.
AND, AND YOU'RE NOT, WHEN YOU PUT THE BALLOT QUESTION, YOU'RE NOT SAYING I USED A 7% GROWTH RATE OR A FIVE NO.
KNOWS THAT YOU'RE SAYING THIS DOLLAR, YOU'RE SAYING A DOLLAR AMOUNT AND A YEAR'S, AND ONE OR BOTH OF THOSE COULD BE TOTALLY OFF.
IF, IF IT ENDS BEAUFORT COUNTY RESIDENTS ARE USED TO THESE ENDING EARLY.
IF WE GET IT WRONG AND IT DOESN'T END EARLY, OOH, WE CAN HANG IT UP.
I I WE GOT, YOU KNOW, SO WOULD YOU SAY, WOULD YOU SAY, UH, 15 YEARS FIF THAT'S TOO LONG FOR YOU.
YOU WON'T DO 10 YEARS RIGHT? AT 5%, 10 YEARS AWAY.
ABOUT HOW ABOUT 14 YEARS AT 1.5
IS ANYONE SCARED OF THE BILLION WORD, DO YOU THINK? DO YOU THINK PEOPLE RUN OFF HIT ONE AND A HALF? I NO.
'CAUSE I MEAN, THESE DAYS A MILLION DIDN'T SOUND THAT MUCH AT ALL.
I MEAN, NO, I'M JUST, I'M JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE LOOKING AT WHAT, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH HIGHWAY 2 78 AND THE BRIDGES AT THIS POINT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT MUCH WOULD APPETITE AT THIS POINT TO PUT MORE MONEY IN A, IN A CAN TO HOLD.
SO, SO IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN ASSURE THE PUBLIC AND ASSURE OURSELVES THAT WE'RE GONNA GET THESE THINGS DONE AND CAN GET THEM DONE, THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE PUBLIC WILL SAY, WELL, YES, LET'S GET 'EM, LET'S GET THEM DONE.
YOU KNOW, WE, I DON'T KNOW, MANY OF YOU READ, UM, GOT THE LITTLE THING ON, ON THE E ON THE, ON THE INTERNET, ON EMAILS ALL THE TIME, UM, CALLED SPANISH WELLS AND HILTON HEAD CORNER.
AND THOSE FOLKS JUST, UH, JUST ARE VERY CONCERNED THAT WE ARE BEING, UH, INSUFFICIENT.
THERE'S GOVERNMENT AND NOT REALLY THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING.
WE ARE JUST DOING THINGS WILL NILLY AND WE CAN'T, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO, WE DON'T WANT TO PROJECT IT FROM OUR COMMITTEE STANDPOINT.
AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO PUT THE COUNTY OR THE TOWNS IN A POSITION WHERE, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE THERE IS REALLY A NEED, WHERE THERE IS A GREATER NEED.
UM, THE VOTERS ARE GONNA SAY, NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE DOLLARS AND CENTS.
YOU MENTIONED THAT EARLIER ON AS FAR AS THAT TRUST FACTOR.
SO YOU THINK IN 10 THOU 10 YEARS AND 950 MILLION TO KEEP AWAY FROM THE B WORD.
THE NO, THE B WE GONNA GET THE B WORD.
I THINK THE B WORD IS GOING TO GET THERE WITH 10 YEARS.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.
THE, THE ONLY THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS IF THE, IF THE COLLECTION IS AS AGGRESSIVE AS WE THINK IT WILL END UP BEING, AND IT ENDS, LET'S SAY IT'S 10 YEARS AND IT ENDS IN SEVEN YEARS.
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AND WE DON'T SEE PROJECTS ON THE GROUND.THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.
SO TO ME, IF WE'RE LOOKING MORE LIKE A 15 YEAR GIVE OR TAKE, SO THOSE PROJECTS, BECAUSE 15 YEARS MAY BE COLLECTED IN 11.
BUT WHERE, BUT WE'LL STILL SEE PROJECTS ON THE GROUND AFTER 10 YEARS.
SO YOU ARE BUYING, YOU'RE BUYING TIME FOR THE PROJECTS.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
WHAT, WHAT WE'RE AFRAID IS WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.
WE ARE NOT GONNA GIVE ENOUGH TIME.
WE ARE NOT GONNA ALLOW ENOUGH TIME FOR PROJECTS TO GET ON THE GROUND TO CONVINCE FOLKS THAT WE ARE REALLY, I MEAN THAT WE REALLY NEED THESE OR THAT THEY REALLY, UM, CAN'T, THAT THEY'RE REALLY FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THEM.
NO, WE'RE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON 'EM.
BUT, UM, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH WORK YOU CAN GET DONE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME, SO MANY RED TAPES AND SO MANY AGENCIES TO GO THROUGH TO BUILD JUST THE BASIC.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I I I HEAR YOUR POINT.
I THINK 15 YEARS WILL BE COLLECTED IN 11 YEARS.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD, I DO AGREE WITH THE GIVE CONSERVATIVE.
I AGREE WITH THE CONSERVATIVE DEAL WITH THE 5%, YOU KNOW.
SO SHOULD WE DO 13, WOULD THAT BE MORE PAL? BECAUSE THEN REALLY AT 10 WE'LL COLLECT IT.
I CAN LIVE WITH THE 15, BUT WITH THE LET'S SPLIT THE DEAL.
15 WITH 5%, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 1.6 BILLION.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S, BUT I JUST GOT, I JUST GOT A QUOTE FOR A PROJECT AND THEY WAS CHARGING $987 A SQUARE FOOT TO BUILD A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AT THIS DAY.
SO YOU NO, IT IS NOT, IT IS NOT THE SAME.
SO, BUT IT'S A LOT OF MONEY TOO.
HOW MUCH MONEY WE GOT LEFT FROM THAT OLD REFERENDUM, UH, JAR A LOT.
SEE, AND THAT, SO YOU, AND YOU CAN'T, THAT'S ALREADY WORKING.
IT'S WORKING, BUT IT'S NOT WORKING AT THE RATE THAT COURT, THE PUBLIC GOING TO WANNA SEE.
WELL, WE GAVE THE MONEY SO QUICK.
THAT WE'RE LIKE, NOW LET'S SEE THE WORK.
YEAH, LET'S, AND THEY'RE SAYING, HOLD ON A MINUTE, IT TAKES THESE NUMBERS TOO ARE TODAY'S DOLLARS.
AND TO YOUR POINT, UM,
WELL, THE PROJECT IS TAKING A LONG TIME, 2 78 PROJECT.
UM, IT'S A $300 MILLION PROJECT, BUT FOR EVERY YEAR THAT IT GOES, IT'S COSTING MORE, IT'S GOING UP 5%.
SO, UM, AND, AND WE'RE GONNA RUN INTO, AND WE WE'RE EVEN MAKING A HEDGE FOR IT ALREADY AND HAVE $60 MILLION TOWARDS THAT IN THIS BIG PROJECT BUCKET BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IF IT TAKES US A LONG TIME TO GET IT DESIGNED AND PUT OUT IN THE BID, IT'S GONNA COST THAT MUCH MORE THAN $300.
AND AT LEAST YOU CAN GET SOME OF THE WORK LOCKED IN AT DIFFERENT RATES, WHETHER THAT BE PLANNING, DESIGN, BUILD, I MEAN, YOU CAN GET SOME THINGS LOCKED IN AT, AT SOME RATES PRIOR TO AND GET SOME THINGS, YOU KNOW, ALREADY LIT LEADING TO THE JOBS BEFORE THEY EVEN ABLE TO GET STARTED.
I MEAN, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO WORK FOR, WORK FROM, OR WORK WITH, THEN YOU, YOU GONNA BE RIGHT HERE AT THE SAME DRAWING BOARD.
EVEN IF YOU HAD IT AND SPENT IT, AT LEAST YOU ALREADY STARTED ON SOMETHING.
JOHN Q DOESN'T SEE THE PLANNING THAT JARED DOES.
THEY WANT TO SEE THINGS ON THE GROUND.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FIGHTING ABOUT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA GET IT ON THE GROUND.
YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH.
WELL, BUT THEY'LL HAVE, THEY'LL HAVE ENOUGH TO WORK WITH IT EVEN DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
BUT THE KEY IS YOU MUST SHOW ME THE MONEY.
WHAT YOU WANT, WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE STRATEGICALLY RIGHT, IS AS WE MOVE INTO LATE SUMMER AND FALL NEXT YEAR, YOU WANT PROJECTS GOING ON, RIGHT.
OBVIOUSLY TRUCKS AROUND PEOPLE MOVING DIRT, YOU KNOW, ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
SO THEY'RE, THEY CAN LOOK AND SEE, WELL, THERE'S A BUNCH OF WORK GOING ON HERE.
YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS THE STRATEGY.
I MEAN, IT OUGHT TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE STRATEGY TO SAY WE NEED TO HAVE OBVIOUS CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING IN THE COUNTY SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING.
I MEAN, THE LADIES ISLAND, THE LADIES ISLAND INTERSECTION PROJECT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THAT ONE TURN LANE DONE, AND THEN THERE'S ONE THING GOING ON OVER BY THE AIRPORT THAT'S TAKEN, UH, FOREVER.
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I MEAN, I'M LIKE, I, THERE IS, UH, GET A BOBCAT AND HELP YOU.
WE'VE GOT SOME OVER EXCAVATION THAT THEY, THE SOILS WERE NOT GREAT.
AND WE GOT OUT THERE AND WE GOT, OH.
SO WE HAD TO OVER EXCAVATE AND BRING BACK IN NEW SOILS.
SO IT'S TAKEN LOWER THAN EXPECTED.
THAT'S A, TO THE INFILL THE SOFT LAND.
THAT'S, DO WE, DO WE HAVE SOME OF THE SMALL PROJECTS LIKE MAYBE I'M KIDDING.
ROAD 46 LANES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT ARE GONNA HAPPEN AROUND THE COUNTY THAT PEOPLE WILL START SEEING BEFORE THIS TWO, TWO? WELL, YES AND NO.
SO OLD MILLER IS ONE THAT COULD TAKE PLACE QUICKLY.
THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE, IT'S A GOOD THING AND IT'S A BAD THING.
BUT ONCE YOU GO AND SPEND IT, IT ZAPS IN A HURRY.
SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DESIGN GOING ON AND WE'RE FOCUSING ON SMALLER, EVEN SMALLER THAN OLD MILLER.
LIKE A TURN LANE OR SIGNAL OR, WELL, THAT'S, I'M NOT TALKING THE POP THROUGH ON OLD MILLER.
I'M TALKING ABOUT IN TURN LANE AT OLD MILLER AND 46 AND JUST MAKING IT SO IT'S, YEAH.
SO THOSE ARE THE JUST LITTLE PROJECTS LIKE THAT.
SO ON, ON, UM, HILTON, YOU CAN'T POP OLD MILLER THROUGH UNTIL YOU FIX THE END OTHERWISE.
ON HILTON HEAD, THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE INDEPENDENT STUDY WAS TO DO SOME WORK AT GUMTREE.
THAT'S EASY WORK THAT CAN, THAT DOESN'T NEED MAJOR PERMITS THAT CAN GET DONE BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT NOVEMBER.
BUT THE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW CHARLIE AND DEAN PROBABLY, I'M AGING.
I'M, I'M, I'M SORT OF AGING MYSELF.
YOU GUYS BEEN AT, I KNOW DEAN IS 13 YEARS, 32 YEARS, SO I DON'T KNOW.
OH, YOU'VE BEEN HERE THREE YEARS LATE.
AND YOU AND I, I, ACCORDING TO OUR CONGRESSMAN, THEY HAD THE MONEY.
I MEAN, SO WHAT DO YOU DO? AND THERE WAS SITUATION WHERE YOU JUST FRUSTRATE THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT I'D HOPE IF, IF, IF WE, EVEN IF WE GO TO THAT 15 YEAR PERIOD, WE DON'T FRUSTRATE THE PUBLIC WITH THAT KIND OF, UM, JUST STALLING, HOLDING THE MONEY, ET CETERA.
OR PLAYING POLITICS WITH THE MONEY, WHATEVER.
I MEAN, WHY DID HE HOLD THE MONEY? WHY WAS THE MONEY? I DON'T KNOW.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SAYING.
IT'S FRUSTRATING SOMETIMES, BUT THERE WAS SOME WETLAND THAT THEY HAD TO REALLY DEAL WITH.
THERE WAS SOME WETLAND THAT OF COURSE REQUIRED A LOT OF, UM, LIKE, I GUESS A LOT OF NEGOTIATION OR A LOT OF WHAT YOU CALL IT WHEN MITIGATION.
MITIGATION WHEN SUN, IT WAS BUILT ON A SWAMP AND THEN THEY TRIED TO BUILD 2 78.
I REMEMBER WATCHING TWO, WATCHING SUN CITY BUILT.
THEY CAME IN AND THEY STARTED TO BUILD AND THEY REALIZED THAT THEY HAD ABOUT A FOOT AND A HALF OF MUCK SOIL ON TOP OF THE HARD SOIL.
SO THEY HAD TO PULL ALL THE SOIL OUT.
UM, 'CAUSE WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES READY TO GO IN THERE AND, BUT SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TOUGH, IT'S TOUGH BUSINESS.
HAS ANYONE SEEN ALL THE TREES GONE DOWN TODAY OVER THERE AT UH, UH, WHAT'S OUR HARRIS TEETER? UH, ALL THOSE PUBLIC TREES THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THOSE PUBLIX, OLD PUBLIX ON LADIES ISLAND? YEAH.
THEY PRESERVED ALL THOSE TREES.
ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF 'EM ARE GONE AS OF TODAY.
I HEARD YOU WOULDN'T HAVE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ABLE TO GET A PARKING SPOT.
YOU, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PRETTY BAD PARKING TO BE FAIR, TO BE FAIR TO THE OLD PUBLIX, YOU SHOULD HARDLY GET OUT.
IT WAS TOUGH PARKING, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A PRETTY TOUGH PART.
BUT, BUT IT'S PRETTY SHOCKING.
IT, IT IS NOTHING LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN THE STREET FROM US.
THEY CLEAR CUT THE WHOLE THING AND SAID, JUST GIVE ME FINES.
IT LEVELED SOMEBODY DO THAT WITH A LOT IN OLD TOWN BLUFFING AND HE'S PAYING.
IT'S JUST ONE MONTH, THREE HOUSES AS OPPOSED.
PORT ROYAL NOW HAS THE HIGHEST TREE TREE NUMBERS IN THE COUNTY.
I MEAN, NOT RIDICULOUS, BUT THEY'RE SUPER FINE.
WHERE WE ARE, IF, IF I AM CORRECT IS WE ARE, WE ARE MOVING CLOSER TO 15 YEARS.
UM, AND ASSUMING, LOOKING AT SAY ABOUT A 1.3 BILLION, I THINK IT WAS 1.6 5.6 BILLION, JARED, YOU GOT THAT RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS.
NOW, IS THAT KIND OF WHERE WE WANT TO START? AND WE'RE, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THESE PROGRAMS AND COME UP WITH PROJECTS FOR EACH OF THESE PROGRAMS. JARED, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GUYS, CAN YOU GUYS PULL TOGETHER TWO OR THREE SAMPLE PROJECTS FOR EACH OF THESE PROGRAM CATEGORIES THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH A, WITH A ROUND NUMBER ON IT.
SO THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE SOME BASIS TO GO WITH THAT.
AND THEN, UM, THE, UM, WE'RE GONNA ASSUME THAT THE, THAT KEEPING IN HERE,
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THE MULTIMODAL, UH, MASS TRANSIT NUMBER, THE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS NUMBERS, UM, WHICH THEORETICALLY SHOULD BE IN THE BILL THAT THE LEGISLATURE PASSES IN THIS NEXT SESSION.UM, OTHERWISE IT JUST DROPS TO THE FUTURE PROJECTS.
OTHERWISE IT GOES INTO, THAT'S RIGHT.
GOES, SO THE ORDINANCE THAT COUNTY COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE WOULD BE IN BEFORE AUGUST MM-HMM.
AND THE SESSION WOULD CONCLUDE IN JUNE.
SO WE'LL KNOW WHICH TIME TO KNOW WHETHER THAT NEEDS TO BE STRICKEN OR NOT.
SO BASED UPON THE NUMBERS IN THERE, WE GOT 445 MILLION IN BIG PROJECTS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU COME UP WITH? 4 45? YEAH.
UM, AND, UM, I THINK THOSE SHOULD BE AT THE BEGINNING.
THAT'S WHAT, START WITH THAT, WITH THOSE PROJECTS.
CALL IT TWO SEVENTY EIGHT, ONE SEVENTY.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU MIGHT CALL IT THE TRIANGLE, BUT DEFINE THE TRIANGLE FOR THOSE THAT, LIKE ME, THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
AND THIS, THIS MAY BE, I KNOW WE'RE JUMPING INTO THE NUMBERS HERE, BUT, AND THIS MAY BE A DIFFERENT TIME FOR THIS, BUT, UM, ARE WE ALL GOOD WITH THE DONOR COMPONENT AND THE GREENBELT COMPONENT? WE TALKED ABOUT THE DONOR COMPONENT LAST WEEK.
DID WE AGREE TO DO IT OR ARE WE, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A HARD SELL.
AS I, AS I WALKED AWAY FROM THE MEETING, THE SENSE I WAS GETTING WAS WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE THOSE GUYS ANY MONEY,
WE'RE NOT GIVING 'EM ANY MONEY.
IN A PERFECT WORLD, I THINK WE ALL WORK TOGETHER AND DO IT.
I'M JUST AFRAID THAT PEOPLE WON'T MOVE, VOTE FOR IT.
I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO, TO TO PARTNER WITH THOSE COUNTIES, GIVE MONEY, WORK TOGETHER.
ENT BOULEVARD IS A, THAT'S A DEATH TRAP IN MY OPINION.
I MEAN, I, WE, SOMEBODY'S HAVING AN ACCIDENT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO PARTNER WITH JASPER COUNTY AND SAY, HOW CAN WE DO THIS TOGETHER? HOW MUCH CAN YOU PUT IN HOW MUCH WE ARE WEALTHIER? THAT'S FINE.
BUT LET'S HAVE A COMBINED PROJECT THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE ON.
BUT TO ASK THE, DO THE, THE, THE TAXPAYERS WHO ARE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET MONEY OUT OF, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN USE WORDS LIKE THE TRIANGLE, BUFORT COUNTY SHARE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY DEFINED WHAT THE BUFORT COUNTY SHARE IS.
IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE LINEAR FOOTAGE OF OUR ROADS VERSUS THEIRS.
OR IT MIGHT BE A NEGOTIATED PERCENTAGE THING, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA BUFORT THERE.
WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, LOT, LOTS OF BEAUFORT TRAFFIC MOVING TCLS RIGHT THERE, THERE TO TCLS RIGHT THERE.
I MEAN, IT, IT, IT'S A, IT'S A MAJOR PART OF THE, OF OUR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT PART OF THE COUNTY.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT USE THAT ROAD ARE BEAUFORT COUNTY PEOPLE.
90% OF THE PEOPLE ON THAT DI ROAD COME FROM BUFORT COUNTY.
WHAT COULD WE EVEN DO WITH THAT ROAD? I DON'T KNOW.
WHICH ROAD R DIDN'T R IF I'M SPEAKING ON TURN, PLEASE TELL ME.
I MEAN, I'M ON RECORDING AND I'M JUST TELLING YOU IT'S A SCARY ROAD DOWN THERE.
THE BRIDGES TO, AND IT JUST STOPS EVERYTHING.
WHAT'S IN THE STUDY IS, IS THAT WOULD BE WIDENED FROM TWO LANES TO FOUR LANES.
SO AT OLDFIELD, WAIT, WHICH ONE'S WIDE IN THE FOUR LANES? I'M SORRY.
THAT'S, SO, UM, AT OLD FIELD ON ONE 70, ACROSS FROM OLDFIELD IS EAST A DEVELOPMENT.
EAST ARGENT HAS 10,000 HOMES APPROVED RIGHT THERE.
SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A FIVE MILE ROAD, FOUR LANE ROAD THAT CONNECTS OLDFIELD TO ARGENT AND IT COMES OUT AT NEW RIVER OR NEW RIVERSIDE, WHATEVER.
AND THAT NEW RIVER CONNECTS ARGENT TO 2 78.
THAT IS CURRENTLY A PRIVATE ROAD, A TWO LANE ROAD THAT GOES BEHIND PUBLIX.
THERE, UM, THAT INTERSECTION IS, IS SCHEDULED TO BE IMPROVED BY THE EAST.
A OWNER AT, AT ARGENT AND 2 78 OR A AND UM, NEW RIVER.
AND THEN THEY CUT THE WELL, SO ONE GOES THIS WAY, THE OTHER ONE KIND OF COMES LIKE THIS.
LET'S A CUT THROUGH BEHIND PUBLIX.
IS THERE ANY OTHER, UH, REGION THAT IS DOING THE ROBIN HOOD APPROACH? NOT ROBIN HOOD APPROACH? I GUESS THE, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
APPROACH, NOT ROAD ONLY THE ONES THAT HAVE A LOCAL OPTION.
I DON'T KNOW THIS, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THEIR NUMBERS, BUT BASED OFF THE STATUTE, UM, THEY ARE DEFINITELY A DONOR COUNTY.
SO THEY HAVE A LOCAL AUCTION SALES TAX.
SO THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING THAT 5%.
UM, THEY'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING DORS TAKING
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IT OFF THE TOP BEFORE THEY, THEY GIVE THE FUNDS TO CHARLESTON COUNTY FOR DISTRIBUTION.YEAH, IT IS A FORCED ROBINHOOD.
UM, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER CAPITAL PROJECT, SALES, TAX OR EDUCATION OR TRANSPORTATION THAT HAS THE ROBINHOOD APPROACH.
IT'S JUST WILL THE VOTERS VOTE FOR TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
WE CAN TALK, WE CAN TALK SOME MORE ABOUT IT.
SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO REACT TO.
WELL, THE, THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING UP IN MY MIND ARE CONTIGUOUS.
WE'RE SHARING A BORDER, WE'RE SHARING ROADS AND COOPERATIVE SOMEHOW, UH, MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.
I'M NOT SEEING THAT IN BARNWELL OR
WELL, IT'S, SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS GONNA GO.
THE TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT OF THIS.
CAN THAT BE USED ON OTHER COUNTIES? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO MAYBE THAT'S A WAY YOU BECOME A DONOR IF YOU WANT EVACUATION, UH, ROUTES AND, UM, WORKFORCE, UH, UH, WORKFORCE TRANSPORTATION.
JUST THINK 2 74 IN JASPER COUNTY OR WHATEVER.
4 62 COMING DOWN ALONG FROM THE RIDGELAND AREA, COMING DOWN ALONG THE BROAD RIVER.
SO WHAT COUNTY CRAFT UP THERE? IT'S CRAZY WHAT COUNTIES WOULD REALLY BE, WHAT COUNTIES WOULD FALL INTO THE CATEGORY OF CONTIGUOUS EVACUATION ROUTES, WORKFORCE, TRANSPORTATION.
DEPENDS ON HOW FAR YOU WANNA GO.
BARNWELL COULD BE ON EVACUATION.
WE, WE HAVE NOT A CALLED COUNTY.
WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THIS ROOM WHO COMMUTES EVERY DAY FROM COLLIN COUNTY.
WHERE DOES SHE FALL IN THERE? EE HAMPTON IS HAMPTON.
SO JASPER, HAMPTON, COUNTIES, HAMPTON, JASPER, BOTH COUNTY LINE GOES RIGHT TO DAMN EE.
ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S THINK, LET'S THINK SOME ABOUT THAT.
THIS IS NOT A DECISION WE HAVE TO MAKE TODAY, BUT IT, IT'S A, THERE'S A REAL QUESTION THERE AND THERE IS, I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY AN ARGUMENT TO MAKE THAT OUR, THAT THE, THE RESIDENTS OF BUFORD COUNTY'S LIVES WOULD IMPROVE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAD GOOD TRANSPORTATION.
THE PLACES WE, WE EITHER WANT TO GO OR THE PLACES THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR US COME FROM.
I THINK WE CAN, WHERE IS JASPER COUNTY RIGHT OUTSIDE MY PLACE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHERE IS JASPER COUNTY? A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T RELAX.
AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE LANGUAGE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING ALONG THE WAY OF, YOU KNOW, UM, IMPROVING EVACUATION ROUTES AND, AND MM-HMM.
AND MAYBE EVEN, I DON'T KNOW, TRAFFIC, HEAVY TRAFFIC.
IF YOU SAY THE IMPROVING EVACUATION ROUTES, SO UP ON THE SCREEN ARE THE EVACUATION ROUTES FROM DOT.
SO WHEN YOU'RE LIVING IN HILTON HEAD OR BLUFFTON, THIS IS 46, IT GOES TO 3 21, WHICH GOES UP TO ESTEL.
NOBODY GETS ON THE INTERSTATE.
'CAUSE THE IN EVACUATION, MORE THAN LIKELY THE STORM HAS COME THROUGH FLORIDA OR FROM THAT DIRECTION.
SO 95 IS LOG JAM WITH FLORIDA AND GEORGIA RESIDENTS.
SO THE NINE FIVE IS NOT THE, UM, ACCESS DURING A HURRICANE.
SO THEY TAKE 2 78 TO 17 AND IT GOES UP 2 78 THROUGH HAMPTON AND GETS ON 68.
UM, NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY TAKES 21 AND EITHER GOES 17 THROUGH WALTERBORO AND UM, OR GOES 17 UP TO 21 YEE 17 AND 21 UP TO YEE TO 60 68.
IS THAT THE BOMB PLANT? THE BOMB PLANT? SO THE PROJECT PROGRAMS COMPORT COM COMPONENT WHERE IT SAYS SAFETY AND TRAFFIC FLOW AND IT SAYS EMERGENCY EVACUATION AND RESILIENCY AND ALL THAT.
CAN THAT BE SPENT OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY, ANY OF THE FUNDS CAN BE SPENT OUTSIDE OF THE, SO THEN I THINK WE, I THINK WE THAT ONE UP.
PUT MORE MONEY INTO SOME OF THOSE TO BE UNDERSTANDING DONOR MINDSET.
THAT'S WHERE THE DONOR, IT CAN BE ADDRESSED AT THAT POINT.
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UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.IT IT CAN BE WHETHER YOU SAY IT OR NOT, SAY IT, IT, IT'S AN ALLOWED USE.
UM, AND COUNTY COUNCIL, ONCE THIS COMMITTEE IS COMPLETE AND IT RUNS INTO A PROGRAM FOR IMPLEMENTATION, COUNTY COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO APPROVE APPROPRIATIONS.
SO THESE, THESE, UH, SAFETY PROJECTS AND STUFF ON THE ONES THAT WE HAD UP HERE ON THE BOARD, THESE THINGS ARE GOING, WHAT, WHAT WE'VE CONCEIVED IS TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF PRIORITY INDEX.
UM, AND THAT WAY COUNTY COUNCIL DOESN'T GET BEAT UP 'CAUSE THEY YOU'RE PLAYING FAVORITES OVER MY PROJECT VERSUS THE OTHER PROJECT.
BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO RESURFACE 3 21 IN JASPER COUNTY BECAUSE IT'S AN EVACUATION ROUTE.
AND IF THERE'S A VEHICLE TO HELP US DO WHAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY THAT'S NEEDED AND NOT KIND OF MUDDY IT UP IN THE REFERENDUM IS MY THOUGHT PROCESS.
PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR ME CAN GET HERE.
THE ROADS THAT ARE CONTIGUOUS ON OUR COUNTY ARE GONNA BE SAFER, WIDER, PROTECTED, BETTER, BETTER MANAGED, BETTER ARE BUILT.
MY CHILDREN CAN LEAVE USCB RIGHT.
WITHOUT ME AND MEET ME SAFELY.
SIMILAR TO NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY, YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER THAT THEY REALLY DON'T SHOW UP AS MUCH ON THE BIG PROJECTS.
THEY SHOW UP ON THESE PROGRAM PROJECTS.
ALL OF THESE ADJACENT AND CONTIGUOUS COUNTIES SHOW UP HERE.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE BIG PROJECTS THAT COST $20 MILLION.
THEY HAVE INTERSECTIONS AND THEY HAVE PAVEMENTS THAT ARE FALLING APART AND THEY HAVE EVACUATION ROUTES.
IT'S PUT IN THAT WAY IN THAT GROUP.
WELL LET'S THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.
UM, WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE GOT ALLOCATED INTO PROJECT PROGRAMS ARE 50, IT IS 50% OF THE MONEY.
AND IF YOU MOVE, IF YOU PULL THE 10% OUT OF THE, THE SHARING PIECE THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE AND YOU PULL THAT 10% OUT AND STUCK THAT INTO, UH, PROJECT PROGRAMS, THEN YOU ARE AT 60% MONEY THERE.
UM, AND UH, THAT THOSE DOLLARS COULD CLEARLY BE KIND OF EASED INTO, UM, UH, INTO THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES AND, YOU KNOW, KICK THOSE CATEGORIES UP.
YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT EVERY ONE OF 'EM WITH THE NOTION THAT OF COURSE IT'S THEY'RE ADDRESSING OUR NEEDS YEP.
THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING OUR NEEDS BOTH IN THE COUNTY BUT ALSO OUT OF THE COUNTY.
WE DON'T WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT OUT OF THE COUNTY, BUT YEAH.
WHERE THEY PUT THE RED LIGHT AT RIGHT ON 2 78.
THAT THOSE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS RIGHT THERE, RIGHT? IS THAT THE ONES THAT WE JUST TALKED? WHICH RED LIGHT WAS PART OF 2 78, THE NEWEST RED LIGHT COMING OFF OF EXIT EIGHT HARBOR OR NO MARGARITAVILLE.
NOW WHAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WAS ACROSS FROM OLD FIELD.
OLD FIELD ACROSS FROM OLD FIELD.
UM, CHERRY POINT, I CALL THAT CHERRY POINT AREA.
NOW IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE, LIKE ANOTHER ROAD GOING BACK THERE, SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY CAN TO GET TO 2 78 WITHOUT COMING BACK TO A THE IDEA IS YES, THAT'S THAT AND THAT'S A PLAN THAT, THAT WE NEED TO GET WITH JASPER COUNTY AND WORK WITH THEM ON IT.
BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH JASPER COUNTY.
THE PROBLEM, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH.
THE PROBLEM ON 2 78 IS THEY'VE GOT MARGARITA BILL AND ACROSS FROM MARVILLE IS HILTON HEAD LAKES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
UM, THEY ARE ALL COMING OUT ON 2 78.
SO THE ARJUN BOULEVARD, UM, IT HAS TWO ONE'S ON ONE 70 AND ONE'S ON ARJUN BOULEVARD, THAT LOOP ROAD WITH ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT ACROSS FROM OLD FIELD ALL THE WAY DOWN AND SERGEANT BY WALMART.
SO THAT DEVELOPMENT CAN TOGETHER EITHER GO OUT ON A AND 2 78 OR CAN GO OUT ON ONE 70.
THE DEVELOPMENTS IN VILLE, UM, AT MARGARITAVILLE AND ON THE NORTHERN SIDE
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OF 2 78 ARE ALL GONNA COME BACK TO 2 78.SO OUR PRIORITY PROJECTS AS THE REGION WE'RE WORKING ON THE, THE BRIDGE PROJECT IS OUR NUMBER ONE.
AND THEN LADIES ISLAND NUMBER TWO, RIGHT BEHIND THAT AS OUR NEXT PHASE OF PROJECTS IS THE TRIANGLE.
AND IT USED TO BE THE NUMBER ONE PROJECT AND NOW IT'S EITHER TIED FOR NUMBER ONE OR RIGHT THERE BESIDE, UM, 2 78 WIDENING TO THE INTERSTATE.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE COLLECTIVELY, CURRENTLY WITH JASPER COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
YOU FORGOT 46 FROM THE CIRCLE TO THE COUNTY LINE THAT THAT'S GOTTA BE UP THERE.
IT'S JUST GONNA MOVE THE TRAFFIC BACK UP TO THE COUNTY LINE.
BUT LOTS OF HOUSING'S GOING UP IN THERE.
AND IF I'M RIGHT, SNAKE SNAKE ROAD IS ABOUT TO GET SOME PROJECTS.
MORE HOUSING GOING UP ON THAT ROAD.
THERE'S A LOT OF FIGHTING GOING ON ABOUT THAT 4 62.
THERE'S A LOT OF FIGHTING GOING ON ABOUT THAT.
I'M WORKING ON THAT ONE FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, WHICH IS AS, AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PORT ROYAL SOUTH FOUNDATION, MY OBJECTIVE IS TO TRY TO KEEP THAT WHOLE AREA FROM ONE 70 GOING UP THE RIVER AS AS LOW DENSITY AS IT'S POSSIBLE.
THAT'S THE WHERE THE MORATORIUM, RIGHT.
JASPER COUNTY'S GOT A MORATORIUM IN PLACE.
SO WE, WE HAD THE JASPER COUNTY COUNCIL.
WE ONLY KEEP IT FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF JASPER COUNTY COUNCIL AND ORLAND COUNCIL MEMBERS OUT ON THE BOAT LAST NIGHT CRUISING UP INTO THAT ZONE TO LOOK AND SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL IT WAS AND WHAT WE DON'T WANNA LOSE.
MADE SOME, MADE SOME, I HOPE SO.
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THIS COMMITTEE OUT ON CRUISE? YEAH.
REALLY? WHAT, WHAT TAKE WE NEED TO SEE HOW THAT BRIDGE TO THE, I'LL BRING, I THINK, I THINK THIS COMMITTEE, WE'RE TALKING A BUS RIDE.
YOU KNOW, GEE, WHIZZ HAMBURG, LET'S CHANGE THAT.
LET'S, AND I GO TO 25 YEARS
UM, AND JUST REAL QUICK, 'CAUSE I THINK WE ALL AGREE, BUT THE, THE GREEN BES, WE WANNA KEEP THAT IN THERE, RIGHT? YES.
I THINK WE WANT, AND PEOPLE LIKE IT.
I THINK THAT PLAYS WHERE PEOPLE WANT IT.
IT DRAWS PEOPLE, IT'LL DRAW PEOPLE IN.
AND BY THE TIME, BY THE TIME THIS POPS UP, UH, THE, UH, THE PENNY, THE GREEN PENNY, UH, WILL PRETTY MUCH BE DONE.
THERE'S A NEED FOR REFERENCE ON THAT.
DORCHESTER, THEY JUST DID $700 MILLION TRANSPORTATION AND THEY PUT A 5%, UM, GREENBELT IN THEIRS AND BERKELEY COUNTY DID A 10% IN THEIRS.
UM, SO JUST, WELL, NO ONE'S MOVING DOWN HERE TO LIVE IN NEWARK, NEW JERSEY.
YOU KNOW, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT NO, THEY'RE MOVING DOWN HERE AND TRYING TO STOP EVERYTHING.
THE MAYOR ALWAYS BALANCE THE MAYOR'S SEAT IN PORT ROYAL BECAUSE IT GOES ALL ABOUT STOPPING GROWTH, BUT YOU CAN'T DO.
BUT, SO AT ANY RATE, UM, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS EVENING IS WE'VE PRETTY WELL MOVED OURSELVES UP TO, UH, 15 YEARS AND ABOUT 1.6 BILLION.
WE HAVE, UH, CHANGED OUR PROPOSAL AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND PUT THE, THE BIG GROWTH STUFF AT THE TOP WITH THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PROJECT PROGRAMS TO INCREASE THOSE, DO THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT SO THAT WE CAN USE THOSE PROGRAMS TO ASSIST, UH, AND WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES TO CREATE IMPROVEMENTS WHICH ARE GONNA BE BENEFICIAL TO THE PEOPLE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
UM, AND UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE DID WE DO? UM, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM,
AND SO THE ISSUE IS NOW, WHICH JA, WHICH I'VE ASKED JARED TO DO FOR THOSE PROJECT PROGRAMS IS BRING BACK, UH, TO US NEXT WEEK EXAMPLES IN EACH ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES.
A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES IN EACH ONE THAT KIND OF SPREAD, SPREAD THE WEALTH ACROSS, UH, NORTH AND SOUTH COUNTY IN, IN APPEALING WAYS WHERE PEOPLE WILL, WILL SEE THEM AND RESPOND TO THAT OF OUR OBJECT.
IS THAT, IS THAT A SUMMARY OF PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE GOT TO WHAT WE GOT TODAY? YES SIR.
DO WE NEED TO SPEND MORE TIME DOING WITH THIS OR SHOULD WE CALL IT A DAY? I NEED TO CALL IT A DAY 'CAUSE I'VE GOT CHURCH COUNCIL RIGHT NOW, SO I'VE GOTTA GO EXCUSE MYSELF.
YOU ARE WELCOME TO CONTINUE WITHOUT, YES.
WE DON'T WANT GOD TO STRIKE YOU.
IF WE BETTER GO, THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
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BLUFFTON, WE'RE GONNA MEET IN BLUFFTON.I'M WORKING WITH BLUFFTON TOWN HALL RIGHT NOW.
DID THEY RESPOND TO YOU OR NOT YET? SO I'M GONNA REACH OUT TO HER AGAIN ON MONDAY MORNING.
WHO IS IT YOU WERE TALKING TO? MARSHA, UH, CLARK.
SO DID YOU I WAS ABOUT TO TEXT STEVEN.
WE'LL, WE'LL WORK TOGETHER AND GET SOMETHING AND WE'LL SIT DOWN.
IF YOU NEED TO INVOLVE ME, PLEASE LET ME KNOW 'CAUSE I HAVE NO PROBLEM WALKING OVER TO TOWN HALL AND HAVING CONVERSATION LIBRARY.
AND YES, THAT'S ON THE CAMERA.
THE CONDO LIBRARY IS NOT AVAILABLE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE THAT DAY.
UM, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO BE DONE BY 6 55 SO THEY CAN WALK OUT.
WELL, WE ALSO MENTION 6 55 SET UP FOR AB.
UM, FELLAS, UH, NORTH OF BROAD.
WE ARE ALL WELCOME TO CARPOOL TO SAVE GAS AND CARBON FOOTPRINT.
SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO JOIN ME, I CAN MEET HERE AND WE CAN GO FROM HERE.
WE SHOULD COME UP HERE AND GET A RIDE.
AND THAT GOES FOR, THAT GOES FOR STAFF.
I MEAN, I MEAN, AGAIN, ANYONE WANTS TO HIT YOU RIDE.
I'M HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO HAVE PEOPLE AND A MEETING BEFORE THE MEETING.
DON'T, AND OF COURSE WE, WE'LL, WE CAN RECORD IT FOR FREEDOM OF INFORMATION PURPOSES IF WE SPEAK ABOUT IT.
WE DON'T HAVE REFRESHMENT IN THAT CAR.
Y'ALL INVITED INTO MY PORCH AFTERWARDS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I MOTION TO, WELL, I, SORRY.
HE'S WANTING A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION.