Nov 15, 2023 County Transportation Committee

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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY.

AND WELCOME TO THE

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

WE, WE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

CHAIRMAN GORDON.

HERE.

VICE CHAIRMAN GLOVER.

EXCUSED.

MR. FORBES? HERE.

MR. BECKER? HERE.

MR. WINSLOW.

IT'S NOT EXCUSED, BUT I, THIS WOULD'VE BEEN HIS LAST MEETING.

OKAY.

MR. PERRY? HERE.

MRS. COLETTE DON'T KNOW ABOUT JENNY.

MR. MANNING.

CLARENCE.

HERE.

MR. NEY HERE.

WE HAVE A QUORUM AS CUSTOMARY.

WE GO AROUND THE ROOM AND MAKE INTRODUCTIONS.

WHY DON'T YOU START? BRIAN.

BRIAN BAUER COUNTY, UH, STATE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, RUST COUNTY CONSTRUCTION.

GARY, ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN CONSTRUCTION.

HANNAH NILES, PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER ANN MARIE, AVER COUNTY COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX LIAISON, CAROL FORNOS OF THE SIERRA HALL.

THANK YOU.

UM, BEFORE WE GO INTO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I, UM, I MENTIONED ABOUT BRIAN WINSLOW.

BRIAN HAS BEEN WITH US, I THINK SIX YEARS AND HE SENT ME A EMAIL, I GUESS ABOUT, UM, A MONTH AGO.

AND HE IS ABOUT TO BECOME IN THE END, LATE MONTH, A PROUD GRANDFATHER.

HIS DAUGHTER LIVES IN CANADA AND HE SAID, I'M GONNA BE SPENDING AS MUCH TIME AS I POSSIBLY CAN IN CANADA VISITING WITH MY GRANDDAUGHTER.

SO THIS WOULD'VE BEEN HIS LAST MEETING AT HE SINCE HE WAS RESIGNING AT EFFECTIVE ONE JANUARY.

SO THAT'S A BACKGROUND IN HIM, UH, AND I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH HIS SERVICE OF THE COUNTY.

AND TO THIS COMMITTEE, PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALL TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

I WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES September 20, 2023]

THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS OR CORRECTIONS? CARRIE? NONE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED.

I'LL TAKE A SECOND.

SECOND, SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'LL START OFF WITH OLD BUSINESS

[5.A. SCDOT DISTRICT PROJECT UPDATE]

NEIMAN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TODAY AND, UM, SHE HAS NEW SLIDES THAT SHE'S BEEN DOING FOR US.

UM, THE SITUATION IS SHE HAS A VERY SICK MOTHER ON TOP OF IT.

I THINK SHE'S SICK AS WELL.

SO, UH, SHE'S IN CHARLESTON AND WON'T BE WITH US.

SO WE'LL JUST BUZZ THROUGH THE SLIDES AND I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO TO, TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATE TO THEM.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, THIS WAS, UH, SEVERAL PROJECTS.

UH, YES, IT STARTS AT THE COLTON COUNTY LINE BACK.

IT'S A FULL DEPTH PATCHING.

THEY MILL.

UM, IT'S UNDER IT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN DONE YET.

I OBSERVED NOT MORE THAN A FEW WEEKS AGO.

UM, THE NEXT, THE OTHER ONE IS LANZEN AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATE, UH, HER SLIDES THAT THEY REALLY HELP, UH, BE ABLE TO DEFINE WHERE THE THE WORK IS GOING.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

ISLAND CAUSEWAY, UM, ISLAND CAUSEWAY.

THE CTC PARTIALLY FUNDED THIS, UH, WORK NOT LAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE.

IT'S TAKEN THEM TWO YEARS TO GET IT IN, UH, IN STAGING.

NEXT SLIDE.

THESE WERE HER COMPLETED PROJECTS THAT THEY DID THIS YEAR.

SO IT GIVES US A GOOD UP-TO-DATE.

LOOK, THESE WERE ALL PRIMARY RESURFACING.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY MILL AND RESURFACE, AND THE POUNDAGE MEANS THE POUNDAGE OF ASPHALT PER SQUARE YARD THAT THEY'RE PUTTING DOWN.

NEXT SLIDE.

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UH, HOLLY HALL WROTE.

NEXT SLIDE.

THEY COME OUT WITH A PROJECT, UH, THE STATE DID, WHERE THEY ARE PUTTING NEW PAVEMENT MARKINGS IN.

AND THESE ARE THE PAVEMENT MARKING PROGRAM.

THIS IS ONE SLIDE.

I THINK THERE'S ONE MORE SLIDE SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE BEING DONE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND ONE MORE.

WE ARE STILL CONTINUING PAVEMENT MARKINGS.

ONE MORE.

[5.B. DIRT ROAD PROJECT UPDATE (#53 In-Design) ]

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU.

COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

SO WE'LL START WITH, UH, DIRT ROAD 53, WHICH IS, UH, UNDERWAY.

RAINBOW ROAD HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

UH, COUNTY STAFF HAS DONE WALKS ON IT.

UM, NEED TO GET A FINAL PUNCH LIST OUT ON THAT, BUT IT LOOKED GOOD, CAME OUT REALLY WELL.

UM, TWICKINGHAM AND NORTHVIEW ARE WAITING ON PERMITTING TO COME BACK.

UM, AND AS SOON AS THEY GET PERMITTED, UH, THROUGH DHEC, THEY'RE READY TO, UH, GET STARTED.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

DIRT ROAD 54 IS, UH, ALMOST COMPLETE.

THAT IS ROCKING ONTO FUSS ISLAND.

UM, FRANCIS JONES CHURCH ROAD AND SCHOOL ROAD.

THOSE ROADS HAVE ALL BEEN, UH, ROCKED.

I OVER THERE LAST WEEK.

THEY ARE LOOKING REALLY GOOD.

UM, THEY ARE ACTUALLY PLANNING TO, I BELIEVE, UH, DEMOBILIZE THIS WEEKEND.

UM, SO THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETE HERE SOON.

THAT'S BEEN A PROJECT WAS BACK ABOUT FIVE, SIX YEARS.

AND THEN THEY WERE, WE CONSIDERED, UM, PAVING THEM AT ONE POINT IN TIME AND IT BECAME A BETTER USE OF MATERIALS AND SOMETHING MORE ACCEPTABLE TO THEIR ENVIRONMENT TO GO AHEAD AND JUST ROCK THESE ROADS RATHER THAN PAVE THEM.

YES, THANK YOU.

UH, YEAR

[5.C. CTC RESURFACING PROJECT (Year 6, Year 7)]

UM, THE CONTRACTOR IS COMPLETED WITH ALL ROADS EXCEPT FOR BENTON FIELD.

UM, WE ARE WORKING TO GET PUNCH LIST, UH, COMPLETED NOW.

UM, SO WE WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME NEWS ON THAT BY THE NEXT MEETING.

UM, BENTON FIELD ROAD, I TALKED TO THE CONTRACTOR EARLIER ON THIS WEEK.

THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CONCRETE PROVIDER TO GET THAT SCHEDULED, TO GET THAT PORTION COMPLETED.

UM, SO WE'RE REALLY PUSHING TO GET TO GET THAT, GET THAT DONE.

DO WE NEED TO STEP IN AND TALK TO THE CONCRETE COMPANY? UM, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THEM IN A WHILE.

I CAN GIVE THEM A CALL AND, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH THEM.

PLEASE DO.

AND LET THEM KNOW TOMORROW WHAT, WHAT YOU FIND.

YES SIR.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THIS IS THE YEAR SEVEN RESURFACING PLAN.

UH, WE HAVE PULLED THIS TOGETHER.

WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE THIS OUT TO BID BY, UH, THE 1ST OF DECEMBER.

THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE BIDS BACK, UH, BY JANUARY TO BRING TO YOU AT THE NEXT CTC MEM MEETING AND THEN GET ON COMMITTEE IN JANUARY TO UH, UM, GO TO APPROVAL COMMITTEE, THEN GO TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

YES, SIR.

UM, AND FOR THE YEAR SEVEN PLAN THAT WE HAVE BUILT, IT'S LOOKING LIKE ABOUT 63% WILL BE SPENT ON THE COUNTY ROADS AND 37% ON THE DOT ROUTES.

SO WE WILL BE MEETING THE, UH, PERCENTAGES.

GREAT.

UM, THE YEAR

[5.D. CTC PAVEMENT PRESERVATION PROJECT (REJUVENATOR UPDATE)]

THIS IS THE CHIPS SEAL ROADS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND ARE IN PUNCH LIST NOW.

THEY SHOULD FINISH WITH THE MICROSURFACING ROADS, UH, THIS WEEK.

I THINK THEY JUST HAD ONE NEIGHBORHOOD LEFT IN BLUFFTON WHEN I TALKED TO 'EM EARLIER ON THIS WEEK.

UM, THAT'S BEEN GOING, UH, SLOW, BUT PRETTY WELL.

UM, MOST OF THE ROADS HAVE COME OUT LOOKING REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

UM, BUT YEAH, THEY SHOULD FINISH THAT ONE UP THIS WEEK.

UH, RUSTY HAS BEEN GOING ALONG WITH THEM AND BUILDING UP A PUNCH LIST ON THOSE AS WE GO.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE TOO MUCH FOR THEM TO, UH, COME BACK AND FIX WHEN THEY'RE COMPLETED.

THIS IS THE YEAR SEVEN PRESERVATION, UM, BID.

THIS IS ALL MICROSERVICE ING ON COUNTY ROADS.

UM, SO THIS AGAIN, WILL GO TO, WE'LL BRING IT UP.

UH, I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE THE MOST RECENT PRICING, BUT THIS WILL BE BROUGHT TO YOU IN JANUARY ALSO TO GO TO COMMITTEE.

UM, BUT THAT WILL BE MICROSURFACING AGAIN.

UM, ON COUNTY ROADS.

MM-HMM.

, THE YEAR SIX REJUVENATOR HAS BEEN COMPLETED FOR A WHILE.

UM, THAT IS NO REAL ISSUES WITH THAT ONE.

UM, WE HAVE YEAR SEVEN REJUVENATOR PROGRAM AS THE NEXT

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AND THAT IS AGAIN, NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PRICING WE HAVE IS A COUPLE MONTHS.

ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PRICING IS UP TO DATE AND WE'LL BRING THAT TO YOU IN JANUARY.

AS ALSO YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDES HERE.

UM, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF ROADS THAT ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE ALL THESE ROADS HAVE BEEN RESURFACED IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

SO TO BUILD ON OUR REJUVENATOR PROGRAM, IT GETS RESURFACED OR MICROSURFACES AND THEN TWO YEARS LATER WE COME BACK AND REJUVENATE IT.

UM,

[5.E. CTC STATE SECONDARY PROJECT UPDATE < 500 ADT. UPDATE]

UH, CHARLESTON COUNTY HAS USED IT, UM, DONE WITH, UH, IT'S CALLED PLUS TI THAT HAS SOME TITANIUM DIOXIDE ON IT ARE IN IT THAT HAS, UH, THROUGH LABORATORY AND FIELD TESTING, IT HAS SHOWN SOME BENEFITS AS FAR AS HEAT ISLAND, UM, AIR CO TWO REDUCTION.

AND POSSIBLY WHERE WE'RE INTERESTED IN IS MICROPLASTIC REDUCTION.

SO WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM ABOUT POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, SEEING IF WE CAN TRY THAT ON A COUPLE ROADS IN THE NEXT YEAR ALSO.

SO I HOPE THEY CAN GET THEIR COST DOWN BECAUSE THE COST WAS ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT STANDARD COST IS FOR .

YEAH, THAT, THAT'S VERY PRELIMINARY.

WE, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED TRYING TO SCHEDULE FOR THEM TO COME DOWN AND LOOK AT THE ROADS WITH US, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, TESTED IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.

WHEN YOU DO, I'D GLADLY GO LOOK AT 'EM WITH YOU TOO.

YES, SIR.

DEFINITELY.

SO I BELIEVE THAT'S MY UPDATES.

I SAID WE'LL GET THE YEAR SEVEN, UH, BIDS TO YOU IN JANUARY FOR, UH, REVIEW AND APPROVAL AND THEN GET THOSE TO, UH, COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL SO WE CAN GET THOSE STARTED, UH, UM, NEXT SPRING GOING INTO THE SUMMER.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN? AGAIN, THIS, THE GOAL IS TO KEEP YOU ABREAST OF ALL THE ROAD PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON.

YOU, YOU OUGHT TO GO THROUGH AND TAKE THE TIME AND MARK 'EM, THE ONES THAT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT SO THAT YOU, UH, YOU'RE ABREAST OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR DISTRICT IN PARTICULAR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MUCH, BRIAN.

THANK YOU.

CAN I, HOW, HOW DOES THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING THIS YEAR COMPARE WITH PREVIOUS YEARS AS FAR AS TIME OR NUMBER OF ROADS ARE AT THE TIME, NUMBERS, LENGTH OF ROADS, ET CETERA? UH, I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I WILL SAY WITH THE ONE-TIME FUNDING THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR, WE'RE DOING MORE ROADS AND MORE MILEAGE THIS YEAR.

UM, I BELIEVE JUST ALONE ON THE CHIP SEAL PORTION FOR THE DOT PRESERVATION, WE HAD CLOSE TO 20 MILES.

I BELIEVE.

I, I THINK THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

UM, I WANNA SAY WE HAD 10 TO 13 OF MICROSURFACING.

UM, AND THE RESURFACING, I DON'T RECALL OFFHAND HOW MUCH, UM, WE HAD THAT.

AND DOLLAR WISE, REMEMBER WE GOT, UH, GRANT LAST FISCAL YEARS, FIVE EXTRA $5 MILLION.

YEAH.

AND ALL TOLD THIS YEAR WE SPENT I THINK 6.8 MILLION THAT'LL COME UP DURING OUR YEAH.

TREASURER'S REPORT.

BUT WE, WE SPENT OVER 6 MILLION, ALMOST $7 MILLION IN PAVING AND, AND RESURFACING THIS YEAR.

YEAH, NO, THIS YEAR WAS DEFINITELY A, I MEAN, NOT JUST FOR US, BUT I MEAN, I WOULD THINK IT'D BE USEFUL EVEN FOR COUNCIL TO HEAR SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, COMPARISONS HOW MUCH MORE IS BEING DONE AND SO ON.

'CAUSE I JUST ALWAYS HAVE TO SEE COMPARISONS.

YES.

I'D LIKE TO SEE, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IF IT'S BETTER OR WORSE OR FASTER OR SLOWER OR, YEAH.

AND BELIEVE CHAIRMAN GORDON'S DONE A GOOD JOB OF KEEPING COUNCIL ABREAST AND, UH, GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO THEM.

SO, AND I, IT'S GENERALLY INCLUDED IN THE, UH, PLAN, WHICH I THINK Y'ALL ARE GONNA DISCUSS LATER ON AS WELL.

SO I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF KEEPING COUNCIL ABREAST.

SO, BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN TAKE CREDIT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.

NO, I'M JUST KIDDING.

BUT YOU COULD, SO .

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ITEM F

[5.F. SR 170 & TRIANGE UPDATE]

YOU GET THE NEXT THREE OR NEXT TWO.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMITTEE, UH, CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON ONE 70.

A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THERE.

UH, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO GIVE AN UPDATE WHEN WE HAVE PROJECT IN PROGRESS, SO THAT, THAT'S NICE.

UH, VERSUS JUST TALKING ABOUT IT.

SO WE DO HAVE PROJECT, UH, SHORT TERM PROJECT.

UM, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.

UM, HITTING SOME SPECIFIC INTERSECTIONS AND PINCH POINTS ALONG ONE 70.

AND THAT IS IN PROGRESS.

THAT STARTED IN OCTOBER.

UH, THE TWO SECTIONS WHERE THEY WERE FOCUSED SO FAR HAVE BEEN AT 4 62.

UM, REDOING THE ASPHALT THERE AND THE TURN LANE, AS WELL AS SOME TIMING ISSUES ON THE SIGNAL THERE AT 4 62.

AND THEN ALSO AT ARJUN BOULEVARD, WE WERE DOING SOME RESURFACING AND RES STRIPING AND, AND ALLOWING FOR TWO LEFT TURNS OFF AR ONTO ONE 70 NORTH.

SO BOTH OF THOSE SECTIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

UM, WE'RE STILL FINE TUNING SOME OF THE TIMING THERE WITH THOSE SIGNALS TO, UH, MAXIMIZE THE CAPACITY OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, SO SOME FINE TUNING

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THE REST OF THAT PROJECT, UM, IS REALLY MORE FOCUSED TOWARDS 2 78 AND, AND DOWN SOUTH AND OKT CENTER, UM, OTI CENTER, BOULEVARD SOUTH, SO, UH, AND ALSO 2 78 PROPER.

SO THAT'LL TAKE PLACE ONCE THE WEATHER GETS WARMER IN THE SPRING, SO IN THE MARCH OR APRIL TIMEFRAME.

UM, ALSO WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON, UH, EVEN NEXT WEEK, I BELIEVE MONDAY, HAVE A MEETING WITH, UH, HARDY V AND A SERIES OF ENGINEERS THAT WE HAVE WORKING ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

SOME FOR US, SOME FOR HARDY V, SOME FOR THE DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA TO SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT, UH, THE SIGNALS IN THE REGION.

UH, AND THE SIGNALS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT, UH, IS 4 62 ARGENT BOULEVARD, N ONE 70 SHORTCUT AND ARGENT BOULEVARD, UH, NEW RIVERSIDE AND ARGENT BOULEVARD, ARGENT BOULEVARD, AND 2 78 AND MARGARITAVILLE AND 2 78.

SO, UM, A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS PLANNED ON THOSE SIGNALS IN DIFFERENT FORMS. SOMES IN THE EARLY STAGES OF DESIGN, SOME ARE READY TO GO OUTTA CONSTRUCTION.

UM, SO, AND DOT WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION.

SO ANYHOW, A LOT OF GOOD COORDINATION THAT WILL BE TAKING PLACE IN THAT.

SO THE GOAL IS THAT THOSE SIX OR SEVEN SIGNALS THAT WE CAN, UH, ONE, KNOW WHAT EACH OTHER'S DOING.

SOME OF IT IS DEVELOPER DEPENDENT.

UM, SOME OF IT IS TOWN OF HARDY V UM, SOME OF IT'S DOT.

SO ONE TO GET ALL SYNCED UP AND THEN WE CAN BE ABLE TO BROADCAST AND, AND DEVELOP A TIMELINE AND BE ABLE TO, UM, PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.

SO, UMM HOPEFUL THAT THAT'S A SUCCESSFUL MEETING AND WE'LL KEEP YOU UP TO DATE ON THAT.

AND THEN LASTLY IS THE BROADER PICTURE, THE ONE 70, UM, THE TRIANGLE PROJECT, ARGENT BOULEVARD AND 2 78.

SO WORKING WITH LATS, OUR, OUR REGIONAL MOBILITY PLANNER.

UM, ON, ON HOW DO WE SOURCE THAT, THE GOAL, WE HAD A REALLY GOOD MEETING WITH DOT.

UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT PLANNING OF FUTURE PROJECTS AND SPECIFICALLY THE TRIANGLE AND, AND EVEN WIDENING 2 78 BACK TO I 95.

SO FROM WHERE THE TRIANGLE WOULD LEAVE OFF AT ARJUN BOULEVARD BACK, UM, AND HOW DO WE GET THOSE PROJECTS STARTED? UM, SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

THE GOOD NEWS IS IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, FROM THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE AT LATS THAT WE'RE PROGRAMMING THE SHORT TERM FUNDING TO GET THOSE PROJECTS STARTED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

UH, WHICH WE'LL GO TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION IN DECEMBER.

AND IF SUCCESSFUL DISCUSSION WOULD COME TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL, UH, IN FEBRUARY TO FOLD THOSE PROJECTS, AT LEAST THE INITIAL PART OF THOSE, THE TRIANGLE PROJECT AND THE WIDENING PROJECT BACK TO THE INTERSTATE, UM, INTO THE GUIDE SHARE FUNDS INTO TIP, AND THEN THUS INTO THE STEP.

SO, UM, IF SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT, THAT'LL BE THE KICKSTART TO REALLY GET THOSE PROJECTS LIFTED OFF THE GROUND AND OF THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE MOST CHALLENGING PART.

ONCE YOU GET IT LIFTED, YOU AT LEAST CAN CATCH A LITTLE BIT OF MOMENTUM AND SOME AIR.

UM, SO FINGERS CROSSED THAT WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THAT STARTED.

SO THAT IS ONE 70 AND, UH, TRIANGLE.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? ALL RIGHT.

2 78.

[5.G. US278 & BRIDGE STATUS]

SO WE HAVE COMPLETED THE JOINT INDEPENDENT STUDY WITH THE TOWN.

UM, THE SECOND STUDY OF THE PROJECT, UM, THAT STUDY, THE CONSULTANT PROVIDED A, A PRESENTATION BOTH TO COUNTY COUNCIL AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER AND TO TOWN COUNCIL OF THE 1ST OF OCTOBER, AND HAVE SINCE PROVIDED A FINAL REPORT WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, LAST MONDAY, UH, COUNTY COUNCIL MADE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS PRESENTED IN THE STUDY AND ALSO TO PROVIDE CORRESPONDENCE TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD SEEKING THEIR MUNICIPAL CONSENT ON THE PROJECT.

UM, THAT MUNICIPAL CONSENT IS NEEDED TO GET TO THE NEXT STAGE OF THE PROJECT, UM, AND FINISH WHERE WE ARE IN THE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW STAGE, UM, AND MOVE US INTO FULL DESIGN AND, AND MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD.

SO, UM, THAT LETTER IS BEING DRAFTED AND WILL BE SENT TO HILTON HEAD HERE SHORTLY, AND THEN WE'LL AWAIT A RESPONSE.

SOUNDS GOOD.

QUESTIONS.

THANKS MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

BRIAN PICKED UP BENTON FIELD PREVIOUSLY, SO WE WILL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT.

NEW, NEW

[6.A. MEETING MINUTES UPDATE]

FIRST ITEM UP IS MEETING MINUTES AND, UM, THROUGH THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS HAS BEEN LENGTHY DISCUSSION HELD BY, UH, US AND, AND GETTING WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO BE

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AND IT HAS, I WENT TO THE CLERK OF COUNCIL AND HAD LENGTHY DISCUSSIONS WITH HER CONCERNING, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO WE REALLY HAVE TO DO WITH MEETING MINUTES? AND THE REASON IS WE'RE SITTING HERE IN A MEETING AND IT'S BEING VIDEOTAPED.

IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, ALL ANYBODY CAN GO BACK AND REVIEW IT AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME.

AND SO HER COMMENT IS, WAS THAT OTHER COMMITTEES HAVE ADOPTED THE FACT THAT THEY NO LONGER ARE WRITING MEETING MINUTES PER SE.

THEY WILL WRITE MEETING MINUTES, AND THE ONLY THING THAT THEY WILL RECORD IN THE MEETING MINUTES BESIDES THE AGENDA IS MOTIONS THAT ARE MADE, WHO MADE THE MOTIONS AND HOW THE MOTIONS WAS CARRIED.

SO ANYTHING THAT GOES BE, COMES BEFORE US FOR US TO ACT ON, THAT GETS RECORDED.

EVERYTHING ELSE DOESN'T GET RECORDED.

UH, IT'S AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC VIEWING AS WELL AS THE COMMITTEE VIEWING AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME.

AND IT JUST, UM, CLEANS UP A LOT OF, OF PAPERWORK THAT TO SOME DEGREE IS NOT NECESSARY.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

IN YOUR

[6.B. SCDOT ANNUAL REPORT]

AND AS I'VE SAID TO YOU PREVIOUSLY, THE DOCUMENT GETS TAKEN AND THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE CTCS DEVELOPS A DOCUMENT AND SENDS IT TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

SO THIS DOCUMENT YOU'LL FIND NOT ONLY ONLINE, BUT AFTER, UH, THIRD OR FOURTH WEEK OF JANUARY, YOU'LL FIND IT IN THE DOCUMENTS, UH, ON THE STATE WEBSITE IS PUBLISHED THEN AND GIVEN TO ALL THE STATE LEGISLATORS FOR THEM TO RECOGNIZE AND FOR THEM TO SEE WHERE WE SPENT THEIR MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING THROUGH THE GASOLINE TAX, HOW IT'S BEEN SPENT, AND WHETHER WE'RE MEETING THE CRITERIA, UM, OF PERCENTAGE WISE OF THE 25 OR 33% DEPENDING ON THE DOLLARS OF WHERE WE HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY FOR STATE FUNDED ROADS.

SO I'VE INCORPORATED THIS IN, HAD THIS PROVIDED TO YOU AS PART OF THE MEETING, AND IT'S AGAIN, SO YOU'LL SEE WHAT OUR ANNUAL REPORT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT WE SUBMIT UNDER SIGNATURE TO THE STATE DOT QUESTION.

THIS IS, WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED THIS.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT.

YEAH.

WE'VE DONE IT AND SUBMITTED IT.

NO, BUT I MEAN, WE'VE RECEIVED THIS AS ME, AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

YOU, WE'VE RECEIVED IT AS PART OF THE PROJECTS YEAH.

LISTED AND THIS BECOMES THE PENNY BREAKOUT.

YEAH.

TO WHERE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SPENT EXPONENTIALLY.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS?

[6.C. FUTURE REGIONAL GROWTH]

I DIDN'T INCORPORATE IN YOUR HANDOUTS AND I DIDN'T HAND IT, GIVE IT TO YOU QUITE INTENTIONALLY.

UM, JARED WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON ON ONE 70 AND THE TRIANGLE PROJECT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

PART OF THAT IS AECOM, UM, UM, THREE YEARS AGO OR FOUR YEARS AGO, DID THE STUDY ON 1 74 YEARS AGO.

YEAH.

AND, UM, THEY PRESENTED IT TO, UM, THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE.

THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE THEN PROVIDE, WITH THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE SUPPORT, IT WAS PROVIDED TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE FOR LATS.

WELL, A LOT HAS HAPPENED IN THAT FOUR YEAR PERIOD OR ENORMOUS AMOUNT HAS HAPPENED.

AND I HAVE, UM, A DOCUMENT WHICH IS IN PRELIMINARY PHASE SHOWING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON ONE 70.

AND SO I DIDN'T PROVIDE THIS TO YOU TODAY.

I'M NOT, NOT THAT I'M KEEPING IT FROM YOU INTENTIONALLY.

YES.

I AM INTENTIONALLY KEEPING IT FROM YOU , BECAUSE THE PROBABILITY OF CHANGES OCCURRING TO THIS, TO THE FINAL REPORT COMES IS, IS

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UM, UM, I WILL PULL IN ONE, JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A, UM, COBBLESTONE TOWN HOMES, 174 HOMES, IT'LL GENERATE 1,274 DAILY TRIPS AND IT'S COMPLETED IN 2025.

THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON OFF ARGENT OFF OF ONE 70 AND EVEN SUN CITY CONTINUING GROWTH.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF THAT AND LATS IS DOING A GOOD JOB.

AND AS YOU KNOW, I HAVE A, HAVE NOW A SEAT, UM, NO LONGER A, I'M A VOTING MEMBER OF THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE.

SO THAT'LL BE YOU WERE BEFORE WHO? NO, I, I WAS EX OFFICIO BEFORE.

OH.

OH, NOW I'M AN OFFICIAL VOTING MEMBER.

I REMEMBER PUTTING YOU ON THE COMMITTEE.

SO THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT, UM, IS GOING ON.

AND I THINK IT'LL IT BE GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.

AGAIN, I FEEL MY JOB IS TO KEEP YOU ABREAST OF TRANSPORTATION THAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA, AND I TRY TO DO THAT AS BEST I CAN BY PROVIDING THE DOCUMENTATION AND SO ON.

UM, NEXT ITEM.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.

AS FAR AS THE MPO IS CONCERNED, MM-HMM.

IS IT MENTIONED QUITE OFTEN THAT THE INFORMATION THAT COMES OUT OF THE MPO IS A RESULT OF THE DATA THAT THE COUNTY PROVIDES TO THE MPO.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS WHEN THE MPO RUNS THEIR MODELS AND SO ON, THE DATA THAT THEY USE COMES FROM US AS FAR AS EMPLOYMENT, INCOME, POPULATION, SO ON AND SO ON.

WELL, ALSO, THEY GATHER OTHER INFORMATION THAT SOMETIMES LATS AND ELCO IS VERY, RIGHT NOW IT IS CONSIDERED SORT OF THE REGIONAL, UM, DEMOGRAPHIC DEMOGRAPHERS AND SO ON.

AND SO SOMETIMES THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION THAT BUFORT COUNTY ISN'T USING YET.

SO IT'S OFTEN BETTER AND NEWER AND MORE VARIED INFORMATION.

I I THINK THE POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS, AND I'M NOT GONNA MENTION THE PROJECT BECAUSE I PROMISE NOT TO DO IT , BUT A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S CRITICISM ON THE INFORMATION THAT COMES OUT OF THE MODEL, BUT THE MODEL ONLY PROVIDES THE TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS TO THE HORIZON YEAR WITH INFORMATION THAT THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS, LOCAL JURISDICTION THROUGH THE MPO HAS PROVIDED.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

OH, A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHEN THEY HEAR, WELL, LATS HAS PROVIDED THIS LAT LATS YEAH.

PROVIDES THAT, BUT THE INFORMATION COMES FROM THE JURISDICTIONS AND ALSO FROM OTHER DATA SOURCES.

OH, SURE.

BECAUSE I MEAN, UH, S-C-D-O-T PROVIDES DATA, NEW CENSUS INFORMATION COMES OUT BECAUSE NOW IT COMES OUT ANNUALLY.

AND SO THERE ARE VARIOUS SOURCES AND PEOPLE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.

THEY THINK THERE'S ONE THAT'S MY WHOLE 0.1 SOURCE OF DATA.

AND THERE ISNT, THERE ISN'T WHOLE THAT THE MODEL IS SPITTING OUT TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS OF DATA THAT WE AND OTHER, AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDE.

YEAH.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT LATS MADE UP.

NO, NO, NO.

IT'S, I MEAN, LATS, YOU KNOW, PASSES THE DATA ON TO THE, 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE CONDUIT AND LET'S MAKE SURE BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOMEBODY ON STAFF WHO REALLY IS EXCELLENT AT DATA.

THE OTHER PART PORTION OF THAT IS THIS.

AND BY HAVING A THIRD PARTY PUTTING IT TOGETHER IN THIS CASE, LIKE AECOM IS DOING THIS WORK, UM, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO OTHER TYPES OF INFORMATION THAT EVEN THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE.

UM, THEY DO MODELING BASED UPON PROJECTIONS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL SEE IS THE TRIPS GENERATED BECAUSE OF THE HOME THAT ROOFTOPS IS, THEY'RE GENERATING THAT SEPARATE FROM THE COUNTY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

I MEAN, THAT'S A SPECIALTY.

IF, IF IT GETS INTO THE MODEL AND GETS INTO THE REGIONAL PROJECTIONS, IT HAS TO BE ADOPTED BY THE MPO BEFORE IT GETS IN THERE.

WELL, AND THEN THAT'S EXACTLY, THAT'S MY WHOLE POINT.

THAT THIS THING, WHEN WHEN THEY SEE, YOU KNOW, 56,000 ADT IN THE HORIZON YEAR, THEY'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHO PROVIDES THAT DATA? YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CRITICIZE THE NUMBERS, BUT THE NUMBERS COME FROM US.

WELL, IT ALSO, A LOT OF THE BASIC STUFF IS CENSUS DATA THAT NOW IS UPDATED ANNUALLY BY THE CENSUS, BECAUSE

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AND THEN PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, THE CENSUS ISN'T ALWAYS RIGHT.

WELL, NO, NOTHING IS ALWAYS RIGHT.

BUT THE DATA IS THE BEST THAT'S AVAILABLE AT ANY ONE TIME FROM THE VARIOUS ESTABLISHED SOURCES.

AND THE EXISTING AADT COMES FROM S-C-D-O-T THAT ISN'T MADE UP.

'CAUSE THE EVERY YEAR THE S-S-C-D-O-T COLLECTS AADT FOR ALL OVER THE STATE.

I MEAN, YOU SEE THOSE LITTLE RUBBER THINGS ACROSS THE ROAD SO THAT THAT DATA, THE EXISTING, UH, AADT COMES EVERY YEAR UPDATED FROM THE STATE.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S JUST A LARGE NUMBER OF SOURCES.

'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA GO WITH ONE SOURCE BECAUSE THAT SOURCE ACTUALLY DEPENDS ON THE, ON OTHER PEOPLE.

SO I MEAN, IT'S, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I WAS MAKING THE SAME POINT, BUT OH, I KNOW.

'CAUSE YOU JUST SAID IT ALL COMES FROM THE COUNTY AND THAT'S NOT TRUE.

ALL COMES FROM THE JURISDICTIONS WHO MAKE UP THE MPO, WHETHER THEY ADOPT THE CENSUS DATA OR WHATEVER.

WELL, AND, AND IT'S ALSO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT.

IT'S NOT JUST BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE LOCAL TOWNS AND SO ON.

O OKAY.

IT'S, I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY SENDS IT OVER.

IT'S A WHOLE VARIETY OF SOURCES.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

THAT'S, WE'LL HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING.

WE'LL HAVE, UH, ONE 70 GROWTH AND WHAT'S, UH, THE MODELING IS BEING DONE AT IT.

I SENT OUT TO YOU THE

[6.D. 2023/2024 BEAUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN APPROVAL]

AND WE'VE MADE MODIFICATIONS TO IT ALMOST EVERY YEAR.

AND I SIT DOWN AND TOOK THE TIME TO GO THROUGH IT AND READ IT, UH, VERY THOROUGHLY.

AND, UM, IN THE COMING YEAR, UH, I'M GOING TO ASSIGN A TEAM TO WORK ON, UM, TAKING A LOOK AT IT AND UPDATING IT AGAIN.

BUT I THINK THAT, UH, IT MORE THAN MEETS WHAT OUR CHALLENGES WILL BE IN OUR, UH, FISCAL YEAR ENDING OF 2023 AND WHAT WE FACE IN 2024.

SO, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'D SIMPLY LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR PLAN IN PLACE.

WE'LL CHANGE THE, THE LEAK SHEET ON IT AND MAKE IT 20 23, 20 24 AND MOVE THE THING DOWN THE ROAD.

SO WE GET IT TO THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION BY ONE JANUARY AS WE'RE REQUIRED.

ANY QUESTIONS? DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

LAST ITEM

[6.E. SELECTION OF COMMITTEE STREETS WITH ADT 2000]

WHAT WE STARTED TWO YEARS AGO.

TWO YEARS AGO, WE, WHEN FUNDING NOT YET.

THERE.

THERE WE GO.

UM, TWO YEARS AGO, WE STARTED LOOKING AT HOW WE WOULD FUND DOLLAR WISE, ROUGHLY WE GET $3 MILLION, OF WHICH 33% WERE REQUIRED TO SPEND ON STATE ROUTES.

SO THREE OR TWO YEARS AGO, WE TOOK A MILLION DOLLARS, SET IT ASIDE, AND SPENT THAT ON STREETS THAT Y'ALL PICKED AND EVERY, AND THAT'S WHERE THE DOLLARS WERE ASSIGNED.

LAST YEAR, WE TOOK LESS THAN 500 ADT AND SPENT, SPENT THE MONEY ON IT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD SO MANY MILES DONE THIS PAST YEAR.

WELL, THIS YEAR, MEANING THIS FISCAL YEAR WE'RE REQUIRED TO SPLIT THAT.

AND IT WAS DESI DESIGNED TO BE LESS THAN THE 500 IS ALREADY BEEN PICKED.

AMT IS DID THAT STUDY FOR US? THE 2000 AND LESS ADT IS YOUR, YOUR SELECTION OF ROADS THAT YOU WANT TO PICK? MY REMINDER IS WE NEED TO HAVE THAT IN JANUARY AND THAT WILL BE AT OUR JANUARY MEETING.

SO I'LL BE LOOKING FOR STREET RECOMMENDATIONS.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT BY AROUND RIGHT AFTER NEW YEAR'S SO WE CAN PUT TOGETHER WHATEVER PICTURES YOU HAVE, WHATEVER YOU CAN

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WE WILL ONLY HAVE $500,000 TO SPEND ON IT.

SO DEPENDING ON WHAT MODIFICATIONS, WHAT RESURFACING WE WANT TO DO TO THOSE STREETS, $500,000 DOESN'T GO A LONG WAY.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE THERE GOING TO BE MAKING PRESENTATION FOR YOUR STREETS, AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE WHATEVER STREETS YOU'RE SELECTING BEFORE THAT SO I CAN HAVE 'EM IN THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

AND THE CRITERIA AGAIN ARE 2000 ADTP AND AND ABOVE 500 A-T-A-D-T.

AND THE CONDITIONS HAVE TO BE WHAT ONES, WHICH ARE STREETS, WHICH TYPICALLY ARE NOT BEING PICKED UP BY DOT.

OKAY.

AND THE PQI DO, WE HAVE A, YOU HAVE THOSE.

SO I MEAN, WHICH ARE WE, WHICH PQI IS THERE A CRITERIA HERE? I'M, I'M GONNA LET YOU MAKE THIS DECISION ON WHAT PQI YOU WANT TO USE.

OKAY.

JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND QUESTIONS.

OTHER QUESTIONS.

THAT'S IN THE PAVEMENT REPORT.

CORRECT.

AND IS IT, IS IT THE ADJUSTED ADT? NO, IT IS NOT IN THAT REPORT.

IT'S, I'LL, I'LL PULL IT OUT AND SHOW YOU AFTER THE MEETING.

OKAY.

THE DOCUMENT TO USE.

AND IF YOU DON'T, SIERRA SENT OUT THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR POSSESSION.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM, SIERRA, I'LL ASK A FAVOR AND SEND THAT OUT ONE MORE TIME TO EVERYBODY.

PLEASE SEND ALL THE DOCUMENTS YEAH.

THE DOCUMENTS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IN THEIR POSSESSION.

GO AHEAD AND SEND THAT LIST TO TAB TWO.

TAB TWO.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL OVERLOAD HER A LITTLE BIT.

YEAH.

TIME TO READ .

WE'RE YOUR EASY COMMITTEE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

SO IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNING, WAS HERE MEETING? OKAY, WE'RE UP TO TREASURER'S REPORT.

[7. TREASURER’S REPORT]

UM, WHAT WE'RE TYPICALLY LOOKING AT ON A MONTHLY BASIS IS THE SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE IN TIME.

BUT I THOUGHT I'D TRY TO TAKE A LOOK AND, AND GIVE A FORWARD LOOKING AND AT LEAST A FORECAST OF WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GONNA BE FOR THE YEAR.

UM, FORECAST OF WHAT WE EXPECT TO GET FROM OUR PORTION OF THE GASOLINE TAX IS GONNA BE ABOUT TWO POINT, ALMOST $2.7 MILLION.

THAT WAS THE ROUGH, THE ROUGH ESTIMATE.

UH, WE RECEIVED A DONOR BONUS OF 708,000 AND THE NON, NON-RECURRING FUNDS FROM THE $20 MILLION, UH, GRANTED BY THE LEGISLATURE IS ALMOST $463,000.

SO THAT GIVES US A PROJECTED, UM, INFLOW THIS YEAR OF ABOUT $3.8 MILLION COMING IN.

UM, IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS, PARTICULAR ONES WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE LET CONTRACTS ON THOSE, WE HAVE ABOUT ALMOST $6.8 MILLION OF PROJECTS COMMITTED BY CONTRACT.

AND IN ADDITION TO THOSE, UM, THE CHAIRMAN MENTIONED, UM, THE ADT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH ADT OF A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

UM, WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO SOME OF THE WORK ON, UH, REPAIRS TO BLUFFTON PARKWAY OF A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

AND WE KEEP A RESERVE OF A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN, IN OUR ACCOUNTS.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE US, UH, UM, WITH AN END OF THE YEAR BALANCE OF SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE OF $3 MILLION AFTER ALL THIS SAID AND DONE.

UM, SO THAT TRIED TO, RATHER THAN JUST DOING THE SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN NOVEMBER, TRY TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE WE EXPECT TO BE AND FOR, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT WE FORECAST RECEIVING.

AND THE ONLY, THE ONLY FORECASTED PART OF THAT IS, IS THE GAS TAX MONEY MONTHLY.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS, HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO US.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD SNAPSHOT.

QUESTIONS.

I THINK I'VE MADE MENTION, UM, A COUPLE MEETINGS BACK.

UM, WE HAD A, UM, MEETING WITH THE, UM, SECRETARY DURING COVID AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, UM, ALL THE OF, OF THE 46 COUNTIES IN THE STATE, I THINK THERE WAS ABOUT A HALF A DOZEN THAT HAD OVERSPENT WHAT FUNDS THEY HAD GOTTEN.

THEY HAD CONTRACTED MORE, THEY WERE BASING THEIR FUNDS ON IT, BUT THEY THOUGHT THEIR YEARLY

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AND THEY WOUND UP COMMITTING TO CONTRACTS AND THAT, THAT THEY WERE IN PANIC TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE, UH, PAY THE BILLS BASICALLY.

AND I GOTTA, UH, GIVE THIS COMMITTEE A GREAT DEAL OF, OF ATTABOYS.

WE'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF, OF MANAGING THE MONEY THAT WE GET, SPENDING IT WISELY AND STILL BEING ABLE TO MEET ALL OUR COMMITMENTS AND, AND ANY EMERGENCIES.

SO Y'ALL GET ATTA BOYS FOR THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE AND THE COOPERATION AND MAYBE ONE, ADD A GIRL AND GIRL, EXCUSE ME.

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT? YOU GO GIRL.

WE'RE NOT ALL MALE ON THIS COMMITTEE.

YOU GO.

UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT UNDER CHAIRMAN'S

[9. CHAIRMAN COMMENTS]

YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET OUTTA HERE TODAY REAL FAST.

I'M, I'M GONNA TELL YOU DOWN 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, I, I LIKE THE IDEA WE, WE DON'T TAKE MUCH CREDIT FOR WHAT WE DO IN THE COUNTY, HOW MUCH EFFORT AND HOW MUCH.

UM, WE DID A, A REPORT THAT I HAVE A COPY OF IT, A SNAPSHOT THAT WAS DONE A NUMBER OF YEARS THAT WAS DONE AND PUT OUT, BUT IT NEVER GOT PUBLISHED.

TELLING THE GOOD WORKS THAT WE'VE DONE AND WHERE THE MONEY AND HOW WE'VE TAKEN THE ROADS FROM HAVING A BUNCH OF VERY POOR AND NOW HAVE NONE THAT ARE VERY POOR AND HOW WE'VE MANAGED OUR MONEY WISELY.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET SOMETHING PUT TOGETHER TO MAKE CERTAIN, THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOES REALIZE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR ROAD NETWORK AND HOW THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN FUNDING IT.

SO, OKAY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? WE'RE GONNA GET DONE A LITTLE EARLY TODAY.

THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING.

ALL RIGHT.

HERE.

NO BUSINESS, OTHER BUSINESS COME BEFORE US.

WE ADJOURNED.