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I'LL CALL THIS STRATEGIC PLAN WORKSHOP TO ORDER.
WE ARE WAITING ON COUNCILMAN HAMILTON, BUT HE'LL BE ALONG ON HIS WAY.
HE PROBABLY DOESN'T THINK WE HAVE HOT TEA FOR HIM, BUT HE'S GONNA BE SURPRISED.
STEVEN, I SAW I BROUGHT MY POT JUST IN CASE.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO GET UPSET.
THIS IS YOUR SECOND STRATEGIC PLAN, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
UM, I THINK WHAT WOULD BE GOOD IS LET'S GO AROUND THE ROOM.
WE HAVE A GREAT CROWD AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU, CHRISTIE, APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HERE.
BUT LET'S GO AROUND THE ROOM, THE TABLE, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTRODUCTIONS FROM OUR, YOU WANNA SAVE THEM FOR LAST? WE GOT THEM UP THERE KIND OF INTRODUCING THEMSELVES AFTER.
I WAS KIND OF WAITING UNTIL THAT SOFTWARE GOT IN.
SO I'LL STOP AND THEN YOU JUMP IN AND THEN I'LL COME BACK.
I'M COUNCILWOMAN BRIDGETT FRAZIER.
LARRY TUBER, TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
LISA SULCA, MAYOR AND WOOD TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
NATALIE MAGOR, FINANCE, PUBLIC SERVICE.
YOU HAVE ANY RESOURCES? PAT ROONEY, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM MANAGER.
JOE, OUR WATERSHED MANAGEMENT.
MARSHA HUNTER, TOWN CLERK, UH, TERRY.
CHRIS FORSTER, ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER.
HEATHER COLEEN, ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER.
AND I'M GOING, DO Y'ALL OR DO THE, WE'RE ACTUALLY ON A SLIDE.
SO YOU PAID FOR A SLIDE FOR US.
TALK IN YOUR MICROPHONES BECAUSE I KNOW SITTING HERE, IT'S SO LOCO AND OTHER EVENTS, IT IS HARD.
IS IT BROADCAST LIVE? SO IT'S LIVE.
SO WELCOME ALL OF, WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE, ALL OF YOU.
WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE UP HERE AS POSSIBLE, BUT PEOPLE COME AND GO.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR COMING.
UM, YOU'RE VERY IMPORTANT THOUGH, SO DON'T FEEL, 'CAUSE YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET CALLED ON.
I'M GONNA CHECK OUR CHAIRS AND OUR MAYORS, UM, AND GET INPUT.
SO WHAT YOU SAY IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS DAY.
SO MAYOR, YOU WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELF, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND UP, BUT MY NAME IS HOWARD WILLIAMS AND, AND THE MAYOR OF HARVILLE.
I'M BOB ELLIOT AND I REPRESENT THE SOUTH CAROLINA NURSE RETENTION INITIATIVE, WHICH WE'VE HERE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
AND ALSO SAY WHAT, WHO YOU REPRESENT?
RANGE COUNTY COUNCIL, DISTRICT SIX, AND VICE PRESIDENT.
UH, DEBBIE SPAN, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATION.
MELINDA PENNY AND MELINDA PENNEY, DOER OF ALL THINGS.
PULL IT TOGETHER OF ALL THINGS.
PULL HER TOGETHER OF ALL THINGS.
AND AS PEOPLE COME IN, IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND, I MIGHT STOP.
'CAUSE I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR TAKING TIME OUTTA YOUR DAY.
SO PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE CARE ABOUT THIS COUNT ENOUGH TO SHOW UP.
UM, WE'RE GONNA CARE ENOUGH ABOUT YOU TO GET INPUT, SO THANK YOU.
I'M GONNA MOVE THIS MIC, BUT I'M GONNA TALK AT IT REAL QUICK 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY MAKING A PRESENTATION UNTIL ABOUT LUNCHTIME TODAY.
SO, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DO STRATEGIC PLANNING, AND BILL AND MIKE ARE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS AS THEY TALK, IS IT REALLY GIVES US, AS A TOWN AS A WHOLE, A GUIDE OVER THE FUTURE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING.
IT ALSO HELPS WITH OUR BUDGET PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE ACCOMPLISHED, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLAN THAT AS WE START PUTTING OUR BUDGET TOGETHER, WE PUT OUR FUNDING IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE IT BECOMES A REALITY.
UM, I'LL LET BILL AND MIKE TALK MORE ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE THEY HAVE BETTER STORIES THAN I DO.
BUT THE WAY WE DO STRATEGIC PLANNING HERE IS WE DO A BIG SESSION LIKE THIS EVERY TWO YEARS AND
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WE DO A, A TWO YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.SO WHAT WE DO TODAY WILL SET OUR DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
AND THE INTERIM BETWEEN THESE BIG SESSIONS, WHEN WE BRING IN THE CONSULTANTS, WE HAVE AN UPDATE SESSION WHERE IT'S JUST STAFF AND COUNCIL AND WE REALLY TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING, WHAT'S IN PROGRESS, MAKING SURE THAT THE PRIORITIES THAT WERE SET THIS YEAR ARE STILL GONNA BE THE TOP PRIORITIES GOING INTO THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
AND TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THE SAME GOALS AND TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THINGS THAT WE SET OUT TO LEAVING THIS MEETING.
UM, SO THE WAY WE DO THIS IS WE GO THROUGH THE DAY, WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION AT LUNCH.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, B-J-W-S-A VERNA IS HERE.
SHE'S GONNA GIVE A LITTLE PRESENTATION, UM, THROUGH KIND OF A WORKING LUNCH THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN THIS AFTERNOON WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, A LOT OF TIME, WHAT'S THAT? BRAD? SALT? YEAH, YEAH.
CHARLES WITH, UH, SHIPPO WITH THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.
AND I KNOW WE'VE INVITED OUR, UM, UM, HPC BOARD TO BE HERE.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A, A CONVERSATION SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN THE TOWN AND LOOKING AT IT GOING FORWARD.
SO, UM, THAT WILL BE A VERY IMPORTANT THING.
AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP WITH TRYING TO GET TO WHERE OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE MOVING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
SO I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY THAT ATTENDED, UH, THAT IS ATTENDING, THAT'S HERE TO BE A PART OF THIS, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO US, UM, NOT JUST AS STAFF, BUT AS COUNCIL AND AS A TOWN AS A WHOLE.
BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY SAY, WELL, WHAT IS THE TOWN DOING? THIS IS HOW WE GET THINGS DONE.
SO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS HOW WE TAKE THINGS THAT ARE A VISION AND MAKE 'EM A REALITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE AND PARTICIPATING.
UM, LIKE I SAID, FOR THIS SESSION, WE BRING IN A CONSULTANT TO HELP GUIDE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR, UM, GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND EVERYTHING ARE GOOD MOVING FORWARD.
SO BILL AND MIKE, IF Y'ALL WANT TO GET UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND KICK US OFF, WE'LL BE GOOD TO GO.
AND I'M GONNA MOVE THIS BACK FROM TRACY.
COUNCIL MEMBER HAMILTON, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
AND FRED HAMILTON, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM KNOWS HIM.
AND, AND JUST, JUST, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE LISTENING, I GUESS, UM, AND WANNA COME IN, WE DON'T HAVE SET TIMES, BUT LUNCH IS PROBABLY GONNA BE 1130 TO 1230, I WOULD SAY THE B-G-A-W-S-A DISCUSSION.
SO AT THE, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISCUSSION, I'M HOPEFUL MAYBE WE CAN SQUEEZE IN THE GROUP IF THE, UH, UH, COMMISSION IS HERE.
WE CAN ALWAYS ROTATE STAFF OUT IF WE NEED TO.
'CAUSE I WON'T, THAT DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO NEED TO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.
AND THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY 1230 TO ONE TO START, I WOULD GUESS.
I'M JUST LETTING THE WHOLE WORLD OH, NO, THAT WE DON'T KNOW IS WATCHING.
NO, WE GOTTA LET EVERYBODY KNOW.
UH, AGAIN, MAYOR, UH, I THINK MAYOR, YOU SAID, UH, VAST ADMIRER OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, UH, I THINK IS THE WORD, THE TERM THAT YOU USED.
UM, I SHARED WITH, UH, WITH DAN BEFORE WE GOT STARTED.
UH, MIKE AND I USED THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AS AN EXAMPLE FOR A NUMBER OF OUR CLIENTS.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE EMBRACED THE PLANNING PROCESS, BOTH AS A COUNCIL AND AS A STAFF, IT IS REALLY, UH, A GREAT TESTAMENT TO, UH, REALLY KIND OF COMMITTING TO, TO WHAT THE, WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS.
SO WE HAVE, UM, UH, WE HAVE BEEN HERE, UH, FOR A NUMBER OF TIMES.
I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER THIS WAS OUR FOURTH OR FIFTH TIME HERE.
UM, BUT, UH, WE, WE FIGURED WE PROBABLY NEEDED TO UPDATE OUR SIDE PRESENTATION, SHORTEN IT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT YOU, YOU TELLING US WHAT THE SLIDES SAID.
UM, BUT KNOWING THAT THIS IS BROADCAST AND FOR SOME THAT, THAT DON'T KNOW, UM, WE ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE, UH, THE BRIDGE GROUP, WHICH IS, UH, MIKE'S COMPANY.
UH, WE EACH RUN OUR OWN, UH, OUR OWN FLAG, BUT WE'RE HERE, UH, UNDER THE BRIDGE GROUP, BUT WE ARE, UH, REALLY AN AFFILIATE AND PARTNER WITH A MUCH LARGER CONSULTING GROUP CALLED THE MERCER GROUP.
AND, UH, ASSOCIATES, UH, JIM MERCER, UM, WHO REALLY WAS KIND OF ONE OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS OF, OF BOTH LOCAL GOVERNMENT STRATEGIC PLANNING AND, UH, CONSULTANTS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
UM, WE WORKED WITH JIM, UH, FROM 2011 UNTIL HIS PASSING A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
UH, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, MERCER GROUP ASSOCIATES WAS, WAS BORN, UH, BUT WE, UH, WE TRAVELED THE COUNTRY.
MIKE AND I, UH, DO A LOT OF WORK ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, PARTICULAR PARTICULARLY ON STRATEGIC PLANNING.
BUT, UM, WE'VE GOT A FEW OTHER, UH, TRICKS UNDER OUR SLEEVE AS WE LIKE TO SAY.
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MIKE, I'M LET YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND THEN I GET TO KICK OVER.UM, MIKE LETCHER, THRILLED TO BE HERE AGAIN.
AND AS, AS BILL SAID, WE, UH, WE USE YOUR GUYS, UH, AS, AS AN EXAMPLE, NOT ONLY WITH OUR CLIENTS, BUT I, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I DO IS I TEACH, I'M AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA AND WITH MY STUDENTS, I USE A LOT OF EXAMPLES, UH, FROM BLUFF.
UH, MY BACKGROUND, UH, PRIMARILY CITY MANAGEMENT FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.
UM, I ALSO, UM, AM, UM, A HAVE BEEN A DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, UH, FINANCE AND HR, UH, BUT PRIMARILY ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF THE, OF THE, UH, OF THE EQUIPMENT.
DOES THIS THING AUTOMATICALLY TURN ITSELF OFF? JUST WHENEVER YOU TALK, IT PICKS YOU UP? OH, IT PICKS YOU UP THEN.
I'M USED TO HAVING TO PUSH A BUTTON ANYWAY.
UH, SO I'M BILL, UH, THE ELECTED OF THE TWO GROUP, UH, OF THIS LITTLE DUO.
UM, BUT I ALSO HAVE, UH, SPENT 40 YEARS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
UH, RETIRED IN 2009 AND THEN WAS ELECTED IN 2011.
AND THAT JUST CONTINUED MY, MY, MY TIME FORWARD, UM, UH, SPENT TIME AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD, ET CETERA.
SO WE, WE REALLY LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION, MAKING THE MOST OF WHAT WE CAN IN ANY COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT, UH, MIKE AND I, UH, REALLY BRING, BRING TO THE TABLE.
SO WHEN WE DECIDED TO, UM, START CONSULTING, WE REALLY LOOKED AT STRATEGIC PLANNING AS AN OPPORTUNITY.
WE HAD SAT THROUGH A NUMBER OF PLANNING EFFORTS AS, UH, YOU KNOW, AS A MANAGER, AS A, UH, AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD, AND SAID, THERE, THERE'S GOTTA BE A BETTER WAY.
THESE ARE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT REALLY DELIVERING.
AND I THINK WE, WE REALIZED THROUGH THE CRASH OF 2009 THAT, UM, THE WAY THAT WE LOOKED AT THE FUTURE NEEDED TO KIND OF CHANGE.
UM, SO WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS, AND WE FOUND OUT LAST NIGHT FROM CHRIS THAT WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN.
IT'S ACTUALLY A HERB KELLER FROM SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, UM, TAKEAWAY, WHICH WE DID NOT REALIZE WHEN WE RIPPED THIS SLIDE OFF
BUT, UM, WE REALLY REALIZED IN 2009 THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT REALLY CHANGED.
WE HAD, WE HAD GONE THROUGH WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A ONCE IN A LIFETIME EVENT FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE.
WE HAD THE FINANCIAL COLLAPSE IN, UH, 1929, AND WE NEVER, YOU KNOW, THE, WE WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
IT WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
WELL, IT HAPPENED IN 2009, AND THAT TOOK A LONG TIME TO RECOVER.
AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT REALLY HAD TO KIND OF CHANGE THE WAY IT WAS LOOKING AT THINGS.
UM, AND WE FOUND THAT LOOKING FORWARD TOO FAR INTO THE FUTURE WAS NOT REALISTIC.
THE WORLD WAS CHANGING SO RAPIDLY THAT, UH, LOOKING FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, UH, WAS ALMOST A, IT WAS A BLURRED VISION.
WE REALLY COULDN'T, COULDN'T LOOK THAT FAR.
UM, AND THEN I THINK WE REALIZED THAT WHEN, UH, WE FINALLY CAME OUT OF THAT RECESSION MID 2010, SO 20 15, 20 16, EVERYBODY FELT PRETTY, PRETTY COMFORTABLE THAT THINGS WERE STARTING TO TURN AROUND.
WE THOUGHT WE HAD THE WORLD FIGURED OUT 2020 DISRUPTED AGAIN, UM, IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAY.
UH, SO THAT RESHUFFLED THE DECK.
IT DIDN'T HAVE THE EFFECT THAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY.
SO HERE WE ARE IN 23 IN AN ECONOMY THAT WE DON'T THINK WE COULD HAVE PREDICTED IN 2021.
SO, UH, OUR, OUR CRYSTAL BALL, ALTHOUGH IT HASN'T HELPED IN THE LOTTERY PLAYING, BUT OUR CRYSTAL BALL REALLY HAS, HAS MOVED US, MOVED US KIND OF FORWARD.
SO WE LOOKED AT CHANGING, CHANGING UP THE MODEL AND GETTING INTO STRATEGIC FOCUS, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A MINUTE.
BUT REALLY, THE, THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE LIKE TO, UH, TO POINT OUT IS THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS REALLY IMPORTANT FROM A, WE GOTTA MAINTAIN BALANCE.
THE OLD WAY OF STRATEGIC PLANNING WAS, UH, WE'D START THE CONVERSATION WITH, IF MONEY WERE NO OBJECT, WHAT WOULD WE DO? AND WE DON'T LIVE IN A, IN ANY FRAME OF TIME, THAT MONEY IS NOT AN OBJECT.
SO LET'S NOT PRETEND THAT WE, THAT WE CAN PAVE THE STREET WITH GOLD AND WE CAN DO ALL THIS STUFF.
UM, LET'S BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND, AND I LOOK TO THE COUNCIL AND SAY, WE HAVE TO, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN THIS BALANCE BETWEEN HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE AND HOW MUCH TIME AND CAPACITY THAT THE STAFF HAS.
AND THE STAFF HAS TO ALWAYS TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT BALANCE AS WELL.
SO WHEN YOU SEE THIS GIGANTIC PROJECT
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LIST, UH, LATER TODAY, WE HAD THAT VERY DISCUSSION YESTERDAY WITH THE STAFF WHEN WE MET WITH THEM TO TALK ABOUT MAINTAINING BALANCE.THE, UH, A GOOD CITY STAFF ALWAYS WANTS TO DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT RIGHT NOW INSTANTLY.
AND WHEN YOU SAY, WE HAVE TO DO THIS, WHATEVER THAT WAS, THE STAFF IS GONNA JUMP.
AND, UH, THAT MEANS THEY'RE EITHER GONNA TAKE ON ADDITIONAL WORK THAT THEY AREN'T NECESSARILY READY TO DO.
UH, IT MAY BE DIFFICULT FOR US AS ELECTEDS BECAUSE WE ARE UNDER CONSTANT PRESSURE TO DELIVER FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
UH, SO WE TRY TO MAINTAIN THIS BALANCE.
I GET AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO, IS MAINTAIN BALANCE.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, BE AWARE OF IS WE ARE MULTIPLE VOICES.
UM, SO THIS IS A, A GREAT CHARACTER REPRESENTATION OF WE WANT DESSERT, BUT EVERYBODY WANTS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
UM, I HAVE SPENT THE LAST, UH, I THINK IT'S FIVE YEARS IN PUBLIC TRANSIT NOW AT HOME, AND I LIKE TO USE THE BUS ANALOGY.
THE MANAGER IS THE, IS THE BUS DRIVER.
AND THE COUNCIL PROVIDES DIRECTION.
THE PROBLEM THAT WE OFTEN RUN INTO IN COMMUNITIES IS, UH, EACH ONE OF YOU AS AN ELECTED ARE YELLING DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS TO THE BUS DRIVER.
SOME ARE YELLING FASTER, SOME ARE YELLING, YELLING SLOWER.
SOME ARE YELLING, RIGHT? SOME ARE YELLING LEFT, AND SOME ARE JUST LONG FOR THE RIDE.
AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR A MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT KIND OF DIRECTION.
STRATEGIC PLANNING HELPS DO THAT.
AND STEVEN KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I THINK WE INTRODUCED THIS THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, UM, IS OUR LEVEL SIX GOVERNANCE CONCEPT.
AND THAT REALLY GETS TO THE, UM, THE CONCEPT THAT IF WHATEVER LEVEL THE COUNCIL IS OPERATING AT IS THE LEVEL THAT THE STAFF WILL.
SO IF YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOK WORRIED ABOUT AS AN, AS AN ELECTED BODY, THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, THE STAFF IS NEVER GONNA THINK STRATEGICALLY.
THEY'RE NEVER GONNA PULL UP YOU BY LEGAL OBLIGATION, HAVE TO WORK AT LEVEL THREE AT TIMES, WHICH ARE, ARE YOUR LEGAL, UH, YOUR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
OFTENTIMES AS ELECTED, WE ARE FOCUSED ON LEVEL TWO, WHICH IS WHAT'S, WHAT ARE RESIDENTS SAYING TO US.
IF YOU ARE, IF YOU, IF YOUR DIRECTION IS ALWAYS AT THE CONSTITUENT LEVEL AND YOU'RE RESPO AND YOU'RE REACTING CONSTANTLY AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, THE STAFF WILL NEVER PULL THEMSELVES UP.
YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY, AND, AND I WOULD SAY OBVIOUSLY, SO WE TRY TO BRING OUR COMMUNITIES INTO WHAT WE, AT LEAST THE LEVEL FOUR ASPECT, WHICH IS, UM, GETTING THEM INTO STRATEGIC PLANNING, THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE AT LEAST PUSHING, PUSHING FORWARD BEYOND, UH, BEYOND TOMORROW'S, UH, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY.
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE DAY AFTER, THERE'LL BE ONE TOO.
UM, AND THEN WE, WE'VE ALSO STARTED TO TALK TO CO CLIENTS ABOUT, UH, GOVERNANCE EXPECTATIONS.
THAT'S A SHARED EXPECTATION BETWEEN YOU AS AN ELECTED BODY AND THE, THE TOWN MANAGER AND THE STAFF.
AND REALLY TRYING TO ELEVATE THAT NEXT, THAT NEXT MOMENT.
WHEN YOU HIRED STEVEN, I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T JUST SAY, WELL, COME ON IN, THERE'S AN OFFICE ON THE CORNER, AND THEN LEAVE HIM BE, YOU GAVE HIM A SET OF EXPECTATIONS.
UM, AND WE REALLY, UH, ENCOURAGE THAT WITH, WITH ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS TO REALLY, UH, TALK ABOUT EXPECTATIONS.
YOU WOULD NEVER, UH, BE A SUPERVISOR AND HIRE AN EMPLOYEE AND NOT TELL THEM WHAT YOU EXPECTED.
UM, SO WE TRY TO, TO BRING SOME OF THOSE, THOSE EXPECTATIONS.
AGAIN, WE THINK BLUFFTON HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH, EVEN WITHOUT THE FORMAL PROCESS.
AND THEN FINALLY, IS THIS LEVEL SIX, WHICH IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT ORGANIZATIONAL, UM, EXCELLENCE.
AND, UH, ANNIE ALREADY HAS A PLAN IN PLACE TO, TO MOVE THIS ORGANIZATION IN THAT REGARD.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT USING BLUFFTON AS AN EXAMPLE WITH OUR OTHER CLIENTS, UM, WE, WE, UH, WE JUST ABSOLUTELY APPLAUD YOU GUYS IN, IN MOVING, UH, MOVING YOUR COMMUNITY FORWARD, UM, AND REALLY GETTING THINGS DONE.
SO LET, UH, STRATEGIC FOCUS REALLY IS WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE BROUGHT, UM, IT HELPS, UH, IT HELPS THE STAFF UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU.
YOU ARE COMMUNICATING TO THE COMMUNITY WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE IMPORTANT.
WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON FOCUS AREAS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES OVER THE YEARS.
UM, THOSE SEEM TO BE HOLDING UP.
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A SHORT DISCUSSION ON, ON ONE ITEM TODAY.UM, BUT WE'RE REALLY, UM, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT, UM, IN VERY DISTINCT WAYS.
AND, UH, THIS WILL HELP NOT ONLY THIS, THIS COUNCIL, BUT THE COUNCIL THAT SEATS IN DECEMBER AND THEN, THEN THE COUNCIL THAT SEATS TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
IT, THESE CARRY FORWARD, THE COMMUNITY, UH, CAN REALLY RALLY BEHIND, UM, THESE, BEHIND THESE EFFORTS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S REALLY ABOUT, UH, THIS IS THE 20% EFFORT YOU'RE HERE ALL DAY.
STAFF WAS TIED UP ALL DAY YESTERDAY.
UH, THAT'S THE 20% THAT IS REALLY GONNA DELIVER ON THE 80%, WHICH ARE THE RESULTS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
AND THAT, THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF GETTING EVERYBODY FOCUSED.
UM, WE HAD A, A LONG DAY YESTERDAY, UM, WITH THE STAFF, AT LEAST I'M SURE IT WAS LONG FOR THEM.
UM, BUT WE, WE TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT IS, THAT IS GONNA HAPPEN IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
SO EVERYBODY THAT IS ON STAFF UNDERSTANDS REALLY WHAT IS, WHAT'S MOVING FORWARD.
AND THAT'S A, THAT'S, THAT'S A STRENGTH THEN FOR YOUR, UH, FOR YOUR STAFF GOING FORWARD.
SO LET'S TALK, UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
THAT'S THE, UM, WE WORK AND WORK AND WORK.
AND NOW WE, WE TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE A LITTLE BIT.
WE ASKED, UM, HEATHER AND STEVEN AND CHRIS TO PUT TOGETHER A FEW SLIDES FOR US, UH, TO KIND OF REVIEW, UH, WHERE YOU'RE AT.
I'M, DO YOU GUYS WANNA JUMP IN OR I'LL JUST ROLL THROUGH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANNA DO IT, BUT, UM, I CAN, I CAN TALK ABOUT EACH SLIDE IF YOU'D LIKE OR HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE.
SO, AS YOU KNOW, IN YOUR BINDER AND WHAT'S IN THE PACKET AND ONLINE IS A LIST OF ALL OF THE, I BELIEVE, 73 INITIATIVES THAT WE HAD OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS THAT ADDRESS THEIR, UM, STRATEGIC, UM, INITIATIVES THAT ADDRESS EACH OF THOSE FOCUS AREAS.
AND, YOU KNOW, SORRY, STOP REAL QUICK.
THE, WILL YOU TELL US WHERE WE ARE IN THE BINDER? YES.
'CAUSE EVERY PLAN, WE GO FROM TAB ONE TO EIGHT, TO SEVEN TO THREE, AND NEVER HAS CHANGED ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC.
MARSHA JUST SENT US THE LINK TO ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS.
IS IT POSSIBLE WE CAN SHARE THAT? 'CAUSE I DO, LIKE COURTNEY HAS A COMPUTER, SOME PEOPLE HAVE A COMPUTER AND THEY CAN FOLLOW ALONG.
AND FINALLY, THERE'S ONE, SOMEBODY POPPED IN AND YOU HAVE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
I, MY NAME TAYLOR
I, I'M THE, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATIONS FOR THE TOWN.
AND, UH, MAYOR, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S A QR CODE THAT TAKES YOU TO THE ONLINE PACKET BACK ON THE TABLE BACK THERE.
ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS SCAN IT, WONDER, AND THEY'LL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO EVERYTHING.
DID Y'ALL GET THAT? THERE'S A QR CODE YOU CAN SCAN AND MELINDA HAS IT, SO CHRISTIE, YOU'RE GONNA SCAN IT.
SO IN THE BINDER IT WOULD BE, AND WHEN YOU CLICK THAT QR CODE AND THE ONLINE INFORMATION, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT IN TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS, DEPENDING ON YOUR PREFERENCE.
TAB FOUR HAS EACH OF THE ITEMS LISTED ON A SEPARATE SHEET, AND THEN TAB, UM, FURTHER ON IN THERE, WHAT THAT FOLDS OUT.
THAT'S IT IN AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET FORMAT.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE EACH, EACH ITEM IN EACH LINE, WHICH WOULD BE, SO TAB FOUR, YOU GOT A LOT OF FOLDOUTS, WE'VE GOT 'EM HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SLIDES HERE THOUGH.
AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE BECAUSE THEY'RE 73
BUT JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, WE DO TRACK THIS, UM, STAFF TAKES THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.
THIS IS OUR TO-DO LIST BEYOND OUR DAILY RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY OPERATIONAL ITEMS OR THINGS TO CARRY FORWARD.
WE KNOW THAT BUSINESS LICENSE, THEY, THEY INTAKE AND REVIEW BUSINESS LICENSE ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO THAT'S, YOU WON'T SEE THINGS LIKE THAT LISTED HERE.
IT'S MORE OF THOSE, LIKE I SAID, THOSE PROJECTS AND STRATEGIC ACTION ITEMS TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS THAT WE ALL DISCUSSED.
THERE'S, UM, 20 ITEMS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, SO WE'VE FINISHED IT.
UM, IT MAY BECOME OPERATIONAL NOW, SO IT DOESN'T MEAN WE JUST PUSH IT ON THE SHELF AND WE'RE DONE WITH IT.
BUT THAT STRATEGIC ACTION TO EITHER ESTABLISH THE POLICIES OR RESEARCH THE PROGRAM OR PUT IT IN PLACE THAT'S BEEN COMPLETE.
SO, LIKE I SAID, YOU'LL SEE IT MAY BECOME OPERATIONAL SUCH AS, UM, THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST
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FUND THAT WAS CREATED, THAT WAS ESTABLISHED.SO IT'S CHECKED OFF AS COMPLETED.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE DONE WITH IT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE FORWARD.
IT'S JUST IN, IT'S IN A DIFFERENT, UM, WAY DIFFERENT PROCEDURE MOVING FORWARD.
THERE'S 13, LIKE I SAID, THAT HAVE NOW BECOME OPERATIONAL, LIKE I SAID, JUST PART OF OUR, PART OF WHAT WE DO.
AND THEN 40 OF THEM WILL EITHER BE COMPLETED THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND KEEP IN MIND WE KIND OF SHIFTED THE, WHEN WE DO THIS WORKSHOP SO THAT WE CAN, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE BUDGET APPROPRIATELY.
SO WE STILL HAVE, LET'S SEE, I MY MATH ABOUT SIX, EIGHT MONTHS LEFT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL FINISH MORE PROJECTS WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME.
AND IF NOT, WE'LL CARRY FORWARD IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE, LIKE I JUST REFERENCED, THE BUFORT, JASPER REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND FUNDED, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND WORKING THROUGH, UM, WITH OUR, UM, REPRESENTATIVES ON THAT, UM, COMMITTEE, THE PUBLIC PROJECT.
I'M GONNA MOVE THIS OVER HERE A LITTLE BIT.
SORRY YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SO CLOSE.
THE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.
SO THE 12 HOMES ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
AND SO THAT PROJECT AT 10 95, MAY RIVER ROAD IS MOVING FORWARD.
UM, HOPEFULLY WE BREAK GROUND BEFORE THIS FISCAL YEAR.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S KIND OF IN PERMITTING HANDS AND OUTSIDE AGENCIES, BUT IT IS, AGAIN, MOVING FORWARD AND CONTINUED.
YOU WILL SEE THAT, UM, ITEM CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE AS COUNCIL KNOWS, WE HAVE MORE PROPERTIES AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THOSE, UM, PARTNERSHIPS, QUALITY OF LIFE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETE.
SO TOWN COUNCIL ADOPTED BLUEPRINT, BLUFFTON.
UM, AND IN THE NEXT, UH, NOT IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, YOU'LL SEE AN UPDATE BECAUSE EVERY FIVE YEARS WE DO HAVE TO REVIEW IT AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL ALIGNED.
AND EVERY 10 YEARS IS THE MAJOR REWRITE.
SO THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.
BUCK ISLAND, SIMPSONVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT IS IN THE DRAFT STAGE.
SO WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW WE'RE CONTINUING, UM, AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING THAT FINAL DRAFT PLAN TO THE COMMUNITY FOR FINAL COMMENTS.
AND WE'LL BE BE BRINGING IT TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.
SO THAT WILL BE COMPLETE BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE LATER THIS AF UM, MAYBE THIS LATER THIS MORNING OR THIS AFTERNOON.
THE NEXT STEP OF THAT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.
SO WE'VE DRAFTED THE PLAN, WORKING ON THAT, ANTICIPATE IT TO BE APPROVED IN SOME FORM, UM, THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND THEN NEXT, UM, THE NEXT ACTION AGENDA ITEM WOULD BE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE ACTION ITEMS THAT RESULT FROM IT COMMUNITY NEWSLETTER.
UM, MANY OF YOU IN THIS ROOM, I'M SURE IN YOUR MAILBOX, RECEIVED THE HARD COPY NEWSLETTER THAT THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM HAS PULLED TOGETHER.
SO ONE THING THAT CAME OUT LAST TWO YEARS WHEN WE WERE HERE IS WE HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO COMMUNICATE, BUT SOMETIMES PAPER IS STILL, UM, A PRODUCTIVE WAY.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE STILL LIKE THAT PAPER IN THEIR HANDS, READ IT, YOU KNOW, CLIP IT ON THEIR REFRIGERATOR OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
UM, AND CONTINUING MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, CHIEF BABITZ AND HIS TEAM HAVE DEVELOPED THAT STRATEGIC PLAN AND ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION STEPS OF THAT.
AND THEN THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM AND A PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND THEY'VE START TO, THEY'VE STARTED TO MEET AND PRIORITIZE LOCATIONS AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
SO THAT IS NOW BECOMING, UM, OPERATIONAL, UM, IN FOCUS AND MOVING FORWARD.
SO THE BUCK WEER PLACE, UM, MULTI-COUNTY, UH, COMMERCE PARK, PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
AGAIN, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED BY TOWN COUNCIL TO WORK WITH A PARTNER TO, UM, CONSTRUCT SOME BUILDINGS AND SOME SPACES.
UH, ANOTHER HUB FOR THE DON RYAN CENTER, SO THAT WE ARE JUST, UH, FINALIZING THE, UM, LEGAL AGREEMENTS.
OH, ACTUALLY IT HAS BEEN SIGNED.
SO ACCOMPLISHED CHECK
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS A BIG LIFT.
AND I THINK THAT WAS, UH, GREAT PROGRESS WITH THAT.
UH, PARTNERSHIPS TO ACCEPT DONATIONS.
AS YOU'ALL KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE INQUIRIES OF SOMEONE WHO'D LIKE TO PLANT A TREE OR PUT OUT A BENCH OR, OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'D LIKE TO, TO GIVE IN SOME WAY.
DIDN'T HAVE A FORMAL PROCESS OF HOW TO DO THIS OR, YOU KNOW, WE JUST KIND OF, WE FIGURED IT OUT AS WE WENT,
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BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, WALKED THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HOW WE DO IT AND, UM, ABLE TO ACCEPT THOSE DONATIONS.SO THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN DONE IN A CHECK.
AND THEN KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS.
WELL, HOW ARE WE DOING? WE DO A LOT OF THINGS.
AND THERE'S, LIKE I SAID, 73 IN THIS PLAN, THERE'S MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S PLAN, BUT DID, DID THE PROGRAM WORK? WHERE WAS IT SUCCESSFUL? DO WE NEED TO TWEAK IT? SO, UM, THAT THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS HAVE COME UP WITH SOME MEASURABLES, AND AGAIN, IT'S MEASURABLE FOR THE PROGRAM FOR THE STAFF.
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO TWEAK IT? OR DO WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, PIVOT AND DO SOMETHING ELSE? SO THAT'S BEEN DONE AND WE ARE MONITORING THAT AND STAFF IS PUTTING THAT AND GETTING THAT ON THE WEBSITE.
SO IT'S ALL TRANSPARENT AND, UM, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH IT LOTS WITH A MAY RIVER, UM, IN THE SURROUNDING RIVERS AND WATERSHEDS, THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT STUDY HAS BEEN COMPLETE.
UH, YOU SAW A LOT OF THIS AT YOUR WORKSHOP A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM BJ WS A'S PRESENTATION LATER, BUT THE STONY CREEK SEWER AND OUR GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT, UM, THAT IS MOVING FORWARD.
AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE OFF SEPTIC TANKS AND ON THE SEWER SYSTEM AND PROTECT THE MAY RIVER.
THAT'S A REGIONAL, UM, PROJECT THAT AFFECTS US ALL.
SO WE'RE A BIG PARTNER IN THAT AND PUSHING THAT FORWARD SEWER CONNECTION PROGRAM.
THEY'RE CONTINUING TO, AS WE HAVE SEWER LINES IN, UM, GET THOSE CONNECTIONS IN PLACE AND HAVE A PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE FINANCIALLY OR, UH, JUST TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS IF THEY QUALIFY TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT CONVERSION.
SO STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AND ALL OF OUR SEWER PROJECTS.
AND THEN JUST CONTINUING GOING THROUGH THAT, UM, WATERSHED ACTION PLAN AND, UM, THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED THROUGH THAT.
SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THAT, UH, IN THE NEXT ONE.
SO AT THE LAST, UH, TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP, WE WENT THROUGH THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WHICH ONES WERE IN EACH BUCKET, WHICH ONES ARE UNDER, UM, GOING TO BE COMPLETED SOON, WHICH ONES ARE IN DESIGN PHASE, WHICH ONES ARE CARRY OVER.
UM, AND IF ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WANTED TO LOOK BACK, ALL OF THAT PRESENTATION IS LINKED.
AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT IN MORE DETAIL.
BUT SOME OF OUR BIG PROJECTS, THE NEW RIVERSIDE BARN PARK, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING IN.
UM, THERE'S SIDEWALKS AND DRAINAGE PONDS AND STUFF THAT U US AND TOWN STAFF THINK IS PRETTY EXCITING, BUT
AND SO WE'VE SIGNED THE CONTRACT FOR THE NEXT STEPS WITH THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'LL BE GREAT WITH THE NEW PLAYGROUND AND, UM, EVENT FACILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SPLASH PAD, UH, RIGHT HERE AT OSCAR FRAZIER PARK.
THAT SHOULD BE FINISHED, WE HOPE BY
UM, EVERYTHING GOING AS PLANNED, A SPLASH PAD HERE AT THE PARK OYSTER FACTORY PARK, SOME MORE IMPROVEMENTS FOR EVENTS AND TO ADJUST TO USERS, YOU KNOW, SO FOOD TRUCKS CAN GET IN THERE.
ACCESSIBILITY, UM, JUST CONTINUE TO, TO ELEVATE THAT SPACE.
JUST PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, ALWAYS CHANGING THINGS OUT.
WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S SAFE AND CURRENT AND WHAT THE KIDS AND THE USERS, UM, WOULD LIKE, MAKE SURE IT'S ACCESSIBLE FOR, FOR EVERYONE.
I'M CONTINUING TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S SOME EQUIPMENT GOING IN AT DEBOS PARK, UM, JUST REFRESHING THAT.
BRIDGE STREET, BRIDGE, STREET STREET SCAPE, PHASE ONE, SOME PARKING'S BEEN DELINEATED, JUST, UM, SIDEWALKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THE FIRST PHASE HAS BEEN COMPLETE.
AND THE SQUARE POPE CARRIAGE HOUSE, UM, YOU SAW THAT RAISED THAT, UM, GOING THROUGH THE REHABILITATION PROCESS AND THAT EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE WORKING WITH SCAD PRO, WHO'S COMING UP WITH SOME INNOVATIVE IDEAS AND, UM, THINGS THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AT THAT WORKSHOP, UH, TO USE AS OUR WELCOME CENTER.
AND JUST KIND OF A, A HUB THERE FOR THE WRIGHT FAMILY PARK.
HERE'S A LOT OF WHAT I JUST KIND OF TOUCHED ON.
YOU CAN SEE THE LIST OF WHAT'S COMPLETE OR WILL BE COMPLETE SOON.
WE'VE GOT, LIKE I SAID, OYSTER FACTOR PARKING LOT, UM, FOR PORTION OF THAT OVER AT THE LEC, OUR POLICE STATION, UM, TO GET THAT, THE CHALLENGE COURSE, THE FITNESS COURSE THAT, THAT THEY GO THROUGH.
GARVIN GARVEY HOUSE, IF YOU GO INSIDE THERE, THE INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE, ALL THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETE.
SOME STORM STORMWATER PROJECTS, SIDEWALKS, AND AGAIN, SOME STREETSCAPE.
A LOT OF I'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON THERE.
UM, JUST KIND OF LIST OUT THE, THE SCHEDULE AND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROJECTS.
AND WHILE THEY'RE READING, HEATHER, ARE THESE
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SLIDES, ARE THEY AVAILABLE? YES.SO WE CAN LOOK AT 'EM LATER? UH, WE WILL BE, YES, YES, YES.
UM, FOR EVERYBODY TO, YOU HAD 'EM LATE LAST NIGHT? YES.
SO THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE WILL, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH CONTRACTS AND THINGS WILL BE, WE ANTICIPATE TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, SO JUNE 30TH.
UM, SO MOVING FORWARD, LIKE I SAID, THE PART, A LOT OF OUR PARK PROJECTS, SPLASH PAD, THE EVENT SPACE AND LIGHTING AND LIKE I SAID, ALL OF THAT IN MORE DETAILS IN THE BINDERS, WHICH IS AVAILABLE.
AND THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET THIS PRESENTATION LINKED UP AFTER THE MEETING.
AND, AND ALL OF THIS WAS A RESULT OF OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING THE LAST TWO YEARS.
AND SO IT'S REALLY NOT A TIME FOR REALLY COMMENTS OTHER THAN JUST TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
'CAUSE THIS HAS BEEN BUDGETED AND IT'S IN THE, THE PLAN.
SO I'LL DEFINITELY LOOK TO MORE COMMENTS WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT DISCUSSION.
SO, UM, WE WILL TALK ABOUT SURVEYS.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE CHANGED THOSE UP A LITTLE BIT, UH, PARTICULARLY HERE IN THE DELIVERY OF THE, UM, OF THE QUESTIONS.
SO I'M GONNA LOOK, WHAT TAB IS THE SURVEY
AND IT'S AT THE, THE FIRST PART IS THE, OF TAB SEVEN IS THE WORKBOOK.
SO GO THROUGH THE FIRST 14 PAGES.
YEAH, THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.
LARRY'S GOT, IT STARTS WITH A BIG GREEN BAR IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
ONE OF 13 IS THE START OF THE SURVEY, BUT AFTER PAGE 18.
YEAH, WE DIDN'T PUT THE BOOK TOGETHER.
SO, UM, AS USUAL, WE DID THE SAME SURVEY FOR BOTH THE COUNCIL AND THE LEADERSHIP TEAM.
UH, WE ARE REALLY WORRIED IN ANY COMMUNITY THAT WE, UH, MAINTAIN ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF.
SO WE SENSE THE IDENTICAL SURVEYS TO BOTH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL STILL MARCHING IN THE SAME PARADE.
AND, UH, WE CLEARLY ARE BASED ON THESE, UM, SURVEY RESULTS.
SO, UM, WE BEGIN THE SURVEY JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE MISSION AND VISION STATEMENTS ARE, ARE CURRENT.
YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS IN THERE, BUT WHOLESALE CHANGES.
EVERYBODY IS STILL IN PRETTY TIGHT AGREEMENT WITH, UM, WITH YES.
YOU BELIEVE THE MISSION STILL HOLDS UP? YES.
WE BELIEVE, UM, THAT OUR VISION STATEMENT IS STILL THERE.
SO, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIVERGENCE OCCURRING THERE AS WELL.
YOU SAID YOU DID STAFF TOO? YES.
DO WE NOT HAVE THEIR RESULTS? YOU DO NOT.
SO THE STAFF, UM, RESULTS AS WELL AS YOUR RESULTS REALLY KIND OF INFORM THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD ARE WHAT PROJECTS DO WE NEED? YOU WILL, YOU WILL SEE THE RESULT OF THAT IN THE LIST OF THE PRO OF THE PROJECT.
SO, UM, YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN THE LEADERSHIP TEAM SURVEY RESULTS
UM, AND WE, WE LIKE TO, UH, WE LIKE TO JUST SHOW YOU YOURS JUST TO JUST KIND OF SEE WHERE THINGS ARE AT AND KNOW THAT YOUR MATERIAL IS IN THERE.
MOSTLY THE COMMENTS, BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TALK TO ONE ANOTHER OR HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS.
THESE SURVEY RESULTS GIVE YOU SOME VERY RAW THOUGHTS.
SO, UM, I REALIZE THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME NOW.
SO WHEN YOU COME UP, YOU KNOW, LATER ON, MAYBE THERE'LL BE SOME DISCUSSION AT LUNCH OR ANOTHER DAY WHEN YOU GO, HEY, DID YOU SEE THAT, THAT ONE COMMENT THAT ONE OF US MADE IS USUALLY HOW THIS, HOW THIS, I SAW THIS UN UNFOLDS.
SO, UM, WE WERE VERY CURIOUS TO SEE ABOUT HOW YOU FELT ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE OF YOUR CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE IS VERY MUCH, UH, IN FAVOR OF THAT AS WELL.
QUESTIONS FOUR THROUGH 10 FOCUSED ON EACH OF YOUR FOCUS AREAS AND WHAT CHALLENGES AND ISSUES YOU ALL THOUGHT WERE RELATED TO THAT.
ANYTHING THAT WAS RAISED IN THESE QUESTIONS, FOUR THROUGH
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10, THOSE POPULATED THE PROJECTS GOING FORWARD.SO RATHER THAN GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE SURVEY QUESTIONS WITH YOU, AS WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, LISTING EVERYONE'S COMMENTS, WE JUST GIVE 'EM TO YOU RIGHT THERE.
UM, THERE IS NOTHING, UM, EARTH SHATTERING.
THERE IS NOTHING TO REALLY CALL OUT, UH, WHICH IS A REALLY POSITIVE SIGN THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE PLANNING PROCESS AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
SO I'M GONNA SPEAK FOR SOME THAT MAYBE WANNA SPEAK.
I'M CURIOUS WHAT STAFF THINKS ARE WE ON? BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE, IT'S GONNA BE A STRUGGLE.
YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THE SAME PAGE.
UM, AND THEN LIKE, WHY CAN'T WE SEE THAT? OH, WE CAN, WE JUST DIDN'T WE SHOULD WE THAT IT'S NOT IN THEIR BINDERS? NO.
WE GENERALLY DON'T SHARE THE STAFF RESULTS WITH THE COUNCIL, BUT THEY HAVE THEM AND THEY CAN CERTAINLY SHARE THEM.
I THINK IT HELPS US FOR OUR TWO YEAR PLANNING.
I MEAN, I'M, WE ARE ALL A TEAM HERE.
AND I'VE SAT WITH COUNCILS AND STAFF WHERE WE WEREN'T AND WE'VE WORKED SO HARD TO BE A TEAM.
LIKE, I WANNA GO BACK TO, UM, THE QUESTION TOO.
I THINK THAT BRINGS UP, SHOULD COUNCIL DISCUSS, DO WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THE HISTORIC IN THE DISTRICT AND THE MAY RIVER IN OUR MISSION STATEMENT? I MEAN, ISN'T THAT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD COME OUT OF THIS, THIS DAY WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROCESS.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I SAY THAT RIGHT THIS AFTERNOON.
SO YOU, CAN WE GO BACK TO THIS PAGE THEN? OR SHOULDN'T WE TALK WITH YOU ABOUT NEXT STEPS? AND, AND MAYBE I'M ALONE ON THIS.
WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? SO ON PAGE TWO OF 13, YEAH.
FOUR ARE HAPPY WITH THE MISSION STATEMENT.
ONE IS NOT, AND THE RESPONSE WAS IN SOME WAY I'D LIKE TO SEE AS MUCH FOCUS ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THE MAY RIVER IN THE MISSION STATEMENT.
SO IS THAT A, IF ONLY ONE THINKS IT THEY NEED TWO OTHER PEOPLE,
I HADN'T EVEN LOOKED AT THESE YET.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE HAS, OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT WHEN ONE INDIVIDUAL HAS AN ISSUE, UM, SOMETIMES THE STAFF IS AWARE OF WHO THAT ONE PERSON IS AND CAN WORK WITH THEM TO UPDATE THAT.
IF WE SAW MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR, HEY, WE NEED TO REALLY MAKE SOME WHOLESALE CHANGES TO OUR MISSION STATEMENT, THEN WE GENERALLY SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A PROJECT BE A REWRITE OF THE MISSION STATEMENT.
BUT WITH IT BEING A SINGULAR COMMENT, WE GENERALLY DON'T GO DOWN THAT ROAD UNLESS, WHICH IS WHY WE SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HERE TALKING ABOUT THESE COMMENTS.
AND THE OTHER THING, UM, MAYOR COUNCIL IS IN, IN A FEW MINUTES WE'LL BE GETTING INTO YOUR, INTO YOUR FOCUS AREAS AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
AND WHEN, WHEN BILL AND I REVIEWED THIS STATEMENT, THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE EMBEDDED IN SOME OF, OF THOSE.
'CAUSE YOU, YOU HAVE A MAY RIVER, AS YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS A YEAR OR SO OR SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE PUT IN A MAY RIVER, UM, FOCUS AREA.
AND THAT, THAT EMPHASIZES THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO ALWAYS.
UM, THE QUESTION ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL BLEND IT IN SOMEWHERE, UH, WITHIN A FOCUS AREA OR GUIDING PRINCIPLE WHEN, WHEN WE GET TO IT.
MAYOR, YOUR, YOUR MISSION STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE YOUR MISSION STATEMENT.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YEAH, YOU CAN'T TALK.
THIS IS, UH, WE'VE REALIZED THESE AREN'T AS GOOD AS WE THOUGHT THEY WERE.
SO, UH, DO I HAVE TO REPEAT ANY OF THAT OR SHOULD I GO? OKAY.
SO THE, THE, THE FACT IS ON THOSE TWO STATEMENTS, UH, WE, WE HAVE A FOCUS AREA ON MAY RIVER THAT IS PRETTY, PRETTY EXTENSIVE.
AND IN TERMS OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, AS WE GO THROUGH IN, IN A FEW MINUTES, LOOKING AT YOUR FOCUS AREAS AND YOUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, WHERE WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE MORE, UH, FOCUS ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE CAN MAYOR, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF NOT HAVING YOUR MISSION STATEMENT, YOUR MISSION STATEMENT, IS IT, AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY, UM, IT SHOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SPECIFIC.
UH, AND, AND DIRECT THE STAFF IN THE AREAS IN, IN WHAT YOU WANT THE STAFF TO, TO WORK ON.
AND IF WE START PUTTING IN, WE'RE GONNA PUT IN THE MAY RIVER, WE'RE GONNA PUT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THEN WHY NOT PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE? WHY NOT PUT IN PUBLIC SAFETY? YOU START, YOU KNOW, YOU START BROADENING THAT MISSION STATEMENT AS OPPOSED TO KEEPING IT FAIRLY GENERIC.
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JUST I SEE YOU, I DON'T KNOW THAT I AGREE, BUT OKAY.I'M, DID YOU WANNA HEAR COMMENTS FROM US? I, I THINK WE'RE LETTING STAFF KNOW.
UM, YEAH, FOR ME, I THINK KEEPING IT, UM, GENERIC OR IN A SENSE AMBIGUOUS LIKE THIS, UM, ALLOWS IT TO BE A LITTLE MORE ALL-ENCOMPASSING.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH THE PERCEPTION PEOPLE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT WE ARE MORE FOCUSED ON HISTORIC BLUFFTON OR OLD TOWN VERSUS LIKE A NEW TOWN.
AND WE DON'T REALLY, WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD MARY OF BOTH.
UM, I THINK THAT MIGHT ONLY BOLSTER THAT POINT FOR SOME PEOPLE TO FEEL THAT, UM, OUR FOCUS AND CONCERN IS ONLY FOR ONE PART OF BLUFFTON AND NOT ALL.
I LIKE THE WAY IT IS NOW IN THAT IT DOESN'T SINGLE OUT ANY PARTICULAR AREA OR PART.
IT JUST SPEAKS TO THE, OUR FOCUS ON THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
SO I WOULD BE CONCERNED IF WE START TO PUT IN, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN, UM, AREAS AND NOT OTHERS AND WHAT THOSE IMPLICATIONS TO OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT BE.
I MUST BE SITTING TOO MU TOO CLOSE TO BRIDGET BECAUSE
I I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SEPARATE OR DESIGNATE CERTAIN AREAS FOR MORE FOCUS THAN OTHERS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WE'RE BIG.
SO JUST MY OPINION, NO, THAT'S WHY I JUST BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE, MAN.
I DON'T NORMALLY AGREE WITH BRIDGET AND LARRY
THE VISION STATEMENT TALKS ABOUT THE PAST
SO YOU'VE GOT THAT HISTORIC THING COVERED IN YOUR VISION STATEMENT AND MAYBE YOU LOOK AT ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN IN THE VISION STATEMENT, WHICH WOULD COVER THE CLAUSE IN OUR VISION.
THAT WOULD COVER THE COMMENT ON, AND I THINK YOU'RE HOLY SMOKES.
YEAH, I'M GONNA BE RIGHT ON TOP OF THIS, THIS THING.
I THINK WE, UM, I THINK YOU HAVE TO DECIDE GOING FORWARD, DO YOU WANT TO PERHAPS LOOK AT A PROJECT FOR MISSION STATEMENT REWRITE? IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU DO IN A 15 MINUTE SEGMENT OF A DAY LIKE TODAY.
IT'S A, IT'S A DEDICATED, YOU KNOW, EFFORT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE DOES THIS FALL IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AS WELL.
SO I JUST LEAVE THAT TO STAFF FOR, FOR THEIR FUTURE CONSIDERATION TO BRING IT BACK TO, TO THE COUNCIL.
SO, WHICH IS WHY WE END UP NOT HAVING THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION.
SO, UM, WE MOVE INTO, UH, LIKE I SAID, QUESTIONS FOUR THROUGH 10, UH, LOOKING AT WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE, WHERE, WHERE THINGS ARE AT, UM, THAT POPULATED THE, UM, THE PROJECT LIST.
'CAUSE THIS IS REALLY, UH, HEY COUNSEL, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS UNDER EACH ONE OF OUR FOCUS AREAS? WHAT ARE, UM, WHAT CHALLENGES DO YOU SEE? WHAT SOLUTIONS DO YOU THINK THERE ARE OUT THERE? UM, STAFF, UH, THEY TOLD US YESTERDAY, WHICH WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T REALIZE.
UM, BECAUSE OUR, OUR NORMAL PROCESS, MIKE AND I COME IN AND WE GO, HEY, HERE'S THE WHOLE LIST OF WHAT WE GLEANED FROM THAT, THAT, UM, THIS, THIS SURVEY AND OUR LIST IS GENERALLY PRETTY EXTENSIVE.
WE HAD RECEIVED, UH, A, A DRAFT LIST FROM, UH, STEVEN AND THE EXECUTIVE TEAM.
AND IT ALREADY HAD EVERYTHING BUT ABOUT FOUR PROJECTS IN THERE.
AND WHAT THEY TOLD US YESTERDAY WAS THROUGHOUT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THEY TRACK THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT.
THEY DON'T JUST LET IT LINGER, WHICH, UH, I WISH THEY DID IN MY, MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KEEP REHASHING THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS, UM, UH, WE HAVE A VERY EXTENSIVE LIST OF PROJECTS AND IT IS A RESULT OF, OF WHAT YOU HAD.
SO I THINK YOU WILL SEE IF YOU FILLED THE SURVEY OUT AND YOU SAID, I'M WORRIED ABOUT X I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE PROJECT LIST, YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THERE.
SO, UM, THIS IS REALLY MORE KIND OF INFORMATIVE OF, OF WHERE, WHERE WE GO.
QUESTIONS 10 THROUGH 13 FOCUSED
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ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.AND THIS IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY.
YOUR ANSWERS WERE INFORMATIVE FOR THE STAFF GOING FORWARD.
UM, WHICH REALLY, IF YOU RECALL WHAT WE DID, UM, I THINK WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING LAST TIME, OR DRCI LAST TIME, DRCI LAST TIME.
UM, THAT PROVIDED A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR STAFF TO REALLY KIND OF PUSH THROUGH AND GET, I THINK THE DON RYAN CENTER BACK TO WHERE YOU HAD WANTED IT.
SO WE TOOK THE SAME APPROACH THIS YEAR FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
UM, AND THAT, UM, UH, THESE ANSWERS, STEVEN, YOU WANT TO TALK TO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO WITH THIS? 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT NECESSARILY TODAY.
WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR INTENT WITH THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS OR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION QUESTIONS? YEAH, YEAH.
SO THE REASON WE WANTED TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS IS WE'VE HEARD A LOT OVER THE LAST REALLY YEAR ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
SOME OF THE PROCESSES, THE COMMITTEE, THE STEPS, MAKING IT EASIER TO ACCESS TO, UM, TO, TO, UM, WORK THROUGH OUR PROCESSES, MAKE IT MORE USER FRIENDLY.
ALSO ABOUT WHY, YOU KNOW, HOW SOME OF OUR HISTORIC PROPERTIES ARE DESIGNATED HISTORIC AND WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP LOOKS LIKE BETWEEN THE STATE AND US AND ALL THE DIFFERENT, AND THE TWO DIFFERENT HISTORIC DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE.
SO WE REALLY WANTED TO GET KIND OF COUNCIL'S BASELINE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION MEANS TO Y'ALL.
SO AS WE START PUTTING PROJECTS TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO START ADDRESSING THIS, AND WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND AS A GROUP WHAT YOUR DEFINITION OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS.
WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR CORE VALUES ARE OF IT IS.
SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE SETTING IN PLACE IS SOMETHING THAT ALL OF Y'ALL ARE GONNA SUPPORT AND AGREE TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PLAN, OUR PROCESS, AND OUR DISTRICT AND ALL OF THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THOSE CORE VALUES THAT COUNCIL HAS.
VERY SIMILAR TO WE DID WITH DRCI LAST TIME WE WANTED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
'CAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, WHEN YOU ASK EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, WHAT DOES HISTORIC PRESERVATION MEAN TO YOU? FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, 80% OF THE CONTENT BETWEEN ALL FIVE OF YOU ARE GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE PART OF IT THAT IS UNIQUE TO EACH OF YOU.
SOME OF YOU MAY SAY, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS THAT WE DO HERE IS NECESSARILY AS IMPORTANT AS THIS AND SOMEBODY ELSE MAY HAVE THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE IDEA.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT 80%, THAT IS THE BASELINE THAT WE GET THAT RIGHT.
AND THEN THE OTHER 20% WE LOOK AT PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT TO BE CONSISTENT AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OF COUNCIL SUPPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I THINK IT'S QUESTIONS 11 THROUGH 13.
I'D JUST LIKE, I JUST EDIT 10 WAS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
OH, IT'S QUESTIONS 11, 12 AND 13.
UM, AND I, WHAT DOES THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN BLUFFTON MEAN TO YOU? MAYBE THAT'S AN OVERALL UMBRELLA BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ALL NEED TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT AND WHY DID WE CREATE IT AND WHY IS IT HERE? AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S, YEAH, EMPHASIS WAS PUT ON THIS SQUARE MILE BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE WERE IN 1986 AND WE WANTED TO BE SOMETHING AND REALLY IS WHY I THINK THE KEY TO PEOPLE MOVING HERE.
'CAUSE THEY DO HAVE THAT ONE SQUARE MILE.
SO THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT, BUT I'M EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THIS AT AFTER LUNCH.
THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE SETTING IT UP.
SO, UM, SO RATHER THAN, AGAIN, GO THROUGH EACH ONE.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE SURVEY RESULTS THERE.
YOU KIND OF SEE WHAT EVERYBODY, UM, WHAT EVERYBODY THOUGHT WHERE THEY, UM, WHERE THEY LANDED ON ON THOSE, THOSE TOPICS.
SO, UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN ITSELF, UH, WE'VE KIND OF BOILED ALL OF OUR SLIDES DOWN TO THIS ONE, WHICH REALLY ARE ABOUT, UM, FOCUS AREAS BEING THOSE STATEMENTS THAT RESULT IN, UM, WE WILL ALWAYS, UH, WHAT WE WILL ALWAYS DO.
SO WE WILL ALWAYS, AND THAT'S YOUR FOCUS AREA, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES UNDERNEATH EACH ONE OF THOSE ARE THOSE STATEMENTS THAT SAY, AND THIS IS HOW WE'LL DO IT.
AND THEN THE PROJECTS ARE, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF OUR SYSTEM IN A NUTSHELL.
UM, AND IT REALLY HELPS KIND OF MOVE THINGS FORWARD.
WE HAVE MADE SOME TWEAKS OVER THE YEARS, UH, FROM WHAT WE, UH, WHAT
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WE'VE DONE.WE ADDED, UH, AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, I THINK NOT THE LAST SESSION, BUT THE SESSION BEFORE THAT.
I THINK WE TWEAKED IT THE LAST TIME AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA LOOK TO TWEAK IT AGAIN.
UM, AND I'M GETTING THE SENSE THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO FIND A WAY TO REFERENCE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROBABLY IN, IN ONE OF THESE, UM, ONE OF THESE OTHER, UH, GUIDING PRINCIPLES AS WELL.
SO, UM, WE'LL HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WORK ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN AS A QUICK REMINDER, THIS IS, UM, THESE ARE YOUR FOCUS AREAS, UM, WHERE WE, WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.
AND, UM, I'M GONNA NEED, UH, JUST A MOMENT TO RESHUFFLE THE SLIDE PRESENTATION AND GET INTO DOING SOME WORK.
SO GIMME JUST A SECOND AND WE WILL, UH, GET THIS TURNED OVER REAL QUICK.
DO YOU, DO YOU NEED LIKE TWO MINUTES? 'CAUSE PEOPLE CAN GET UP AND GET COFFEE OR USE THE RESTROOM.
WE'RE NOT TAKING A BREAK, BUT JUST KNOW AND, UM, BLAKELY, YOU STOOD UP SO YOU CAN TELL EVERYBODY WHO YOU ARE WHILE WE'RE
GOOD MORNING, BLAKELY WILLIAMS DOMINION ENERGY.
THE AVERAGE TEXT TAKES YOUR EYES OFF THE ROAD FOR NEARLY FIVE SECONDS AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS.
THAT'S ENOUGH TIME TO TRAVEL THE LENGTH OF A FOOTBALL FIELD.
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I AGREE.STEVEN, DID YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON ANY OTHERS AND COMMITTEES? I AGREE.
YES, COMMITTEE'S CONSIDERED ADVISORY GROUPS.
ANY MORE ON THIS? TWO E'S IN COMMITTEE.
OKAY, SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT, NEXT FOCUS AREA, WHICH IS YOUR COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND, AND, UM, MAYOR, BEFORE WE, WE GET STARTED THIS FOCUS AREA, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, AND NOT ONLY IN THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE ONE, BUT ALSO IN THE FOCUS AREA ITSELF, THERE'S A, THERE'S A REFERENCE TO, AND I'LL JUST READ THE SENTENCE IN SEC.
OUR COMMUNITY CAN COME TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE AND PRESERVE ITS CULTURE AND HISTORY WHILE ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOCUSING ON HISTORY.
BUT THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE ONE IS PRESERVE AND ENHANCE THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL IDENTITY RESOURCES.
THE REFLECT THE VALUES AND TRADITIONS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'LL SUPPORT AND PROMOTE CULTURAL ACTIVITIES THAT REFLECT OUR HISTORIC LEGACY.
SO AT, AT SOME POINT WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT YEAR THE, THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THIS DEFINITE IN INTEREST, UM, IN OUR QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN BLUFFTON TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOCUS ON A HISTORY.
'CAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE A BEAUTIFUL, A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY HERE.
UM, GUIDING PRINCIPLE TWO IS THE SUPPORT AND CREATE PARTNERSHIP WITH PUBLIC, UH, UM, PRIVATE, UH, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.
UM, LEADERSHIP, MULTI-GENERATIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
'CAUSE JUST, YOU GOTTA LEAVE SOME OF US OUT THAT DON'T LEAVE US OUT THAT ARE BABY BOOMERS.
OUTREACH, STRATEGICAL UTILIZATION OF VARIOUS COMMUNICATION METHODS.
UM, BUSINESS PROCESSES AND INNOVATE PROGRAMS, WHICH YOUR CHIEF
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IS DOING.UH, FIVE IS GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF HERE.
FIVE IS FOSTER AND SUPPORT, UM, PLACE-BASED INITIATIVES AND EVALUATE COMMUNITY POLICIES, PROGRAMS, GATHERING PLACES, EVENTS, UH, THAT PROMOTE, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE, HEALTHY LIFESTYLES.
AND THEN, UH, LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS YOUR SIXTH PRINCIPLE, WHICH IS, UM, POLICIES AND PRACTICES THAT ENCOURAGE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSCIOUS INITIATIVES, POLICIES, TOWN CODES THAT SUPPORT A CLEAN, WELL MAINTAINED THAT PROMOTES NATURAL RESOURCES.
AND AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH MAY RIVER'S A SEPARATE, UH, FOCUS AREA THAT INCLUDE THE THE MAY RIVER, IT'S A WONDERFUL RESOURCE AND WONDERFUL, UM, OYSTERS.
I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THAT, UH,
YOU WANNA SCROLL? WE'LL JUST EVERYBODY HAVE A LOOK AT IT NOW.
NOW THERE WAS A MENTION, UM, MOST OF YOU WERE, WERE FINE WITH THIS.
THERE WAS A, THERE WERE STATEMENTS, UM, THERE WAS STATEMENT REGARDING INITIATIVE ARE GOOD BUT WOULD LIKE TO DIG DEEPER IN SOME OF THE, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES MENTIONED ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
UM, AND THEN SOME OF THE CHALLENGES.
UH, THERE WAS A HOUSING THAT THERE WAS A STATEMENT ABOUT TRANSPORTATION GROWTH, WATER QUALITY.
AND I THINK THOSE ARE MORE RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK LATER THIS AFTERNOON AT PROJECTS.
BUT THERE WAS A STATEMENT REGARDING LOOKING, UM, AT, AT GUIDING PRINCIPLE ONE.
AND, AND MAYBE THAT STATEMENT WAS RELATED TO THIS WHOLE, UM, THE, HIS YES.
IT WAS A SURVEY I HAD TO PULL UP ON MY COMPUTER.
TO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT THEN WE HAD TO ANSWER IT, THEN WE LOST IT.
LIKE THERE WAS NO WAY TO, IT WAS, YEAH, WE'RE TAKING NOTES ON THAT.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED, WE IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF FLAWS IN THE LAST FEW SURVEY.
QUE WE THOUGHT WE WERE STREAMLINING IT.
IN FACT, WE MADE IT MORE COMPLICATED.
SO WE'RE SEE THE SURVEY AGAIN.
AND SEEING IT ON PAPER, I DON'T EVEN, I KNOW FOR ME, I'M LIKE, WHAT DID I MEAN BY THAT? BUT THEN I REMEMBERED I HAD THIS COMPUTER UP LOOKING AT IT ALL.
SO WE GOTTA GET IT CLOSER TO YOU.
WE'VE GOTTA GET, WELL THIS IS NEXT TO YOU.
WELL, I'M TRYING TO, THIS THING IS LIKE, YOU CAN HEAR, GLEN, CAN YOU HEAR IN THE BACK WITH US TALKING? OKAY.
YEAH, WELL LET'S JUST, YOU'RE TALKING TO THE WORLD.
WELL, YES, IT'S, UH, I HATE MICS, BUT UH, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO USE THEM.
SO ANY MORE ON THIS FOCUS AREA? ANYBODY? I WOULD SAY I, I CAN, UM, UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE, WERE REQUESTING OF US IN TERMS OF GETTING SOME MORE CLARITY ON HISTORIC THERE UM, AND I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR EVERYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS TOO, BECAUSE THAT, THAT TERM IS, UM, DEFINITELY SO BROAD.
LIKE WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, UM, IN GUIDING PRINCIPLE ONE, PARTICULARLY THE SECOND SENTENCE WHERE SAYS WE SUPPORT AND PROMOTE CULTURAL ACTIVITIES THAT REFLECT OUR HISTORIC LEGACY.
WELL, I, I THINK IT, I LIKE IT BROAD BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT NUMBER TWO BEFORE I READ NUMBER ONE.
AND THE CULTURAL, WE'RE A CULTURAL DISTRICT.
WE WE'RE MULTI-GENERATION, BUT WE'RE THIS LITTLE SMALL TOWN IN SOUTHERN, SOUTH CAROLINA IS MULTICULTURAL AS WELL.
BUT THE, GOING BACK TO NUMBER ONE, I SEE IT AS IT'S JUST A BROAD BRUSH THAT THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL THE SUBSETS THAT'S UNDER IT RATHER THAN MISSING SOMETHING IF WE DETAILED IT.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS, BRIDGET ON IT.
I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE DETAILED.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE ONE COULD BE ONE IN THE SAME.
SO IT COULD JUST BE HISTORIC, BUT I SAY CULTURAL.
I, I WANT, I WANNA SAY I THINK LAST YEAR WE ADDED TALK LOUD, OR TWO YEARS, TWO YEARS AGO.
I THINK WE ACTUALLY ADDED CULTURAL IN BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE MORE REPRESENTATIVE BESIDES JUST HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURED THE CULTURAL HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
UM, I REMEMBER A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND THAT LAST YEAR.
KINDA LOOK AT HISTORICAL AS DEAD
I MEAN, NO, I, I CAN, YOU KNOW.
WELL, WE GOT, IT'S A WHOLE THING.
YOU GOTTA KNOW WHERE YOU CAME FROM TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
BUT WE ARE ALSO, HERE'S MY WORD.
SO I'M, I'M REITERATING LARRY.
AND PLEASE DON'T TAKE THAT AS SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T CHANGE IT 'CAUSE WE CHANGED IT TWO
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YEARS AGO.I WANNA MAKE SURE IT REFLECTS.
SO Y'ALL JUST REMEMBER HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
FOR SIX YEARS AGO, WE BECAME A CULTURAL DISTRICT FROM A GROUP OF OUTSIDE PEOPLE THAT WANTED US TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE THAN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO WE'RE A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WE'RE A CULTURAL DISTRICT.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO LET REMIND PEOPLE OF THAT.
BUT THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS.
HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT WANNA PRESERVE THE CULTURE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, TELL ME WHERE YOU ARE, WHERE YOU PRESERVE THE CULTURE.
PRESERVE AND ENHANCE THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL IDENTITY.
DOES THAT SAY IT THE SAME WAY? I THINK IT'S FINE THE WAY IT'S, I DON'T, I'M GOOD WITH IT.
BRIDGET, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? BECAUSE I THINK YOU MORE OR LESS JUST ASKED FOR OF THE REST OF IT.
WHEN THEY FIRST BROUGHT IT UP, IT'S HIGHLIGHTED BECAUSE OF THAT REASON.
UM, IT'S, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH EITHER ONE OF THE WORDS.
IT'S MORE SO IF IT'S OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLE IN THE SENSE OF HOW ARE WE STEWARDING, YOU KNOW, THE PRINCIPLE THAT WE HAVE.
AND I THINK IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND HOW THAT IS PERCEIVED.
UM, UM, AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND FROM OTHERS.
UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT HISTORIC NATURE, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S ALWAYS SEEN OR EVIDENCE THAT IT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING.
LIKE SOME PEOPLE THINK OF HISTORIC, AS LARRY SAID, REPRESENTS THINGS THAT ARE DEAD.
UM, I THINK PEOPLE SEE IT FROM JUST, UM, A GENERAL, SOMETIMES FABRICATED LENS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IF PRESERVE AND ENHANCER IN THERE, MAYBE THINKING OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE COULD WE ADD TO THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT'S OUR ACTION VERB THAT WE'RE USING ON HOW WE'RE, UM, STEWARDING THAT HISTORY? IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
HOW ABOUT, I MEAN, I LIKE IT, BUT IF YOU'RE THINKING IT PRESERVE, ENHANCE, AND EDUCATE.
I MEAN, THERE'S ANOTHER WORD WE COULD USE.
WE'RE PRESERVING AND WE'RE ENHANCING, BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT THAT WE BELIEVE IN IT? I I LEAN ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING WITH LIKE THE SARAH RILEY HOOKS PROPERTY.
IF WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT LIKE SARAH RILEY HOOK'S PROPERTY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY MAKING IT AN ARTIST COTTAGE THAT CAN BE USED BY GULLAH ARTISAN.
SUPPORTIVE OF THE HISTORIC, I LIKE WE SAY CELEBRATE.
WELL, YOU HAVE CELEBRATE UP THERE.
IT SHOULD BE IN THAT GUIDING PRINCIPLE, I THINK.
BUT IN THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE, DO YOU WANNA STAY SUPPORTIVE OR CELEBRATE? COULD BE.
WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? I'M FINE WITH ANYTHING.
HOW'S THAT PROMOTE? I'M WITH YOU.
WHO, WHO WANTS TO ADD, PROMOTE REAL QUICK AND WE'LL MOVE ON.
I LIKE PROMOTE BECAUSE WE ARE, WAIT A MINUTE.
YOU YOU HAD THE OTHER, THE OTHER WORD YOU TOOK OUT.
I ADDED PRESERVE, ENHANCE, PRESERVE, PROMOTE AND ENHANCE.
SO YOU THREE, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO GO ON? WELL, YOU, YOU ARE EDUCATING THE PUBLIC EVERY DAY.
I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT JUST PROMOTING, BUT YOU'RE EDUCATING THEM.
I MEAN, PART OF OUR EFFORTS TO REACH OUT THROUGH THE MOBILE TOWN HALLS, THE NEWSLETTER IS TO EDUCATE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW AND THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING YOU LIKE.
DO YOU LIKE I WOULD LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS MYSELF.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST ONE PERSON.
IN WHICH DIRECTION? 'CAUSE I ADDED TWO WORDS.
SO AM I ADDING PROMOTER, EDUCATE OR NEITHER? PROMOTE EDUCATE.
ALSO, DON'T TAKE, EDUCATE OUT.
OKAY, NOW MOVE FAST FOR THESE TWO BECAUSE THEY WERE READY TO MOVE.
SO ARE WE THERE? WE'RE THERE? YES.
CAN WE MOVE THE HE NEEDS TO SAVE 'CAUSE HE'S MADE A LOT OF CHANGES.
YEAH, HE, HE'S GONNA, HE'S GONNA SAVE AND THEN WE'LL MOVE THEN THE NEXT ONE.
SO LET'S GO TO INFRASTRUCTURE.
EXPENSIVE, BUT SIM SIMPLEST ONE.
SO INFRASTRUCTURE WAS, YOU WERE ALL YES ON THAT.
UM, SO I'LL, AND AGAIN, THIS, UH, THIS, AS BILL MENTIONED, THIS IS THE, YOUR, YOUR AREA WHERE YOU DO EXPEND A LOT OF MONEY, BUT, UM,
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IT'S VERY VISIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY, OBVIOUSLY.UH, YOU'LL IN THE FOCUS AREA, YOU'LL PLAN, YOU'LL IMPLEMENT, MAINTAIN CURRENT, UH, FUTURE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES.
AND YOU GUIDING PRINCIPLE ONE, YOU ESTABLISH ROUTINE AND INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABOVE AND BELOW GRADE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE IS, IS MAINTAINED AND, AND KEPT, UH, OPERATIONAL IDENTIFY PROGRAMS, TECHNOLOGIES OR RESOURCES.
AND TWO, DO COMPLEMENT THE CURRENT OPERATIONAL YOUR PRACTICES.
AND YOUR THIRD FOCUS AREA HERE IS ESTABLISH LONG-TERM PLANNING, PRIOR PRIORITIZATIONS AND INVESTMENTS FOR, UH, FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE, UH, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, UH, FOCUS AREA.
AND AGAIN, ALL OF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS ONE.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION THOUGH.
UM, LOOKING AT IT AGAIN, AND I'M THINKING ABOUT LIKE THE CLIMATE WE'RE IN AND EVERYONE MAYBE, MAYBE THEY GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND READ THESE THINGS, I'M NOT SURE.
I THINK THEY GO ON THE FACEBOOK WORLD OF KNOWLEDGE, BUT WE AREN'T IN CHARGE OF A LOT OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO SHOULD WE BE CLEAR WITH PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE COUNTY AND STATE, OR SHOULD WE SAY WE ARE RESPONSIBLE WITHIN OUR AB ABIL? BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK WE ON THE ROADS, I'M JUST, JUST AN EXAMPLE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK WE RUN THE SCHOOLS.
SO SHOULD WE BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT OR DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET ON HERE AND READ THIS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TOWN IS IN CHARGE OF? WELL, WELL IN YOUR, WHEN WE GET TO THE, UM, GREAT POINT MAYOR, BUT WHEN WE GET TO THE PROJECTS THIS AFTERNOON, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THERE'S, THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE USED THAT WE HAVE TO PARTNER THAT WE HAVE TO LIKE, ON YOUR UTILITIES, UM, USING, UH, COLLABORATION WITH THEM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S UTIL SO I THINK THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF I'M A, I'M NOT A CITIZEN OF BLUFFTON, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IF I'M A CITIZEN, I'M LOOKING AT A STRATEGIC PLAN, MY FIRST THING IS WHAT ARE YOU DOING
AND, AND, AND I THINK AGAIN, WHEN WE GET THERE THIS AFTERNOON, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T ALWAYS GO BACK TO THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO PARTNER, MAYOR, IS THERE A BETTER WORD THAN ROUTINE TEAM? KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE THIS SET OF FACTS.
WE'RE GONNA DO THE SAME THING EVERY TIME.
MAYBE PROCEDURES INSTEAD OF ROUTINE OR IF YOU WANNA LEAVE ROUTINE.
ALSO, I WOULD THINK THE GUIDELINES ARE PLURAL.
SO ROUTINE MAKES IT SOUND LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA DO THE SAME THING EVERY TIME.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST WE CHANGE IT TO ESTABLISH PROCEDURE.
WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? I I DON'T LIKE ROUTINE.
BUT ROUTINE IS KIND OF GOOD IDEA.
WE GOT A NO, LET'S THINK ABOUT IT.
OH GOD, I GOTTA REMEMBER THAT.
I'LL KEEP SAYING TOWN UNTIL I'M NOT SITTING HERE.
OH, I ONLY WORKED FOR ONE TOWN IN MY CAREER, SO.
THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A GOOD ONE.
SO LET'S, UH, THE, THE NEXT AND AFTER WE GET THROUGH THESE FOCUS AREAS, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AMER AT YOUR RECOGNITION PLEASE.
SO THE, THE NEXT ONE'S, THE BIG ONE IS, IS MAY RIVER.
AND UM, AS I MENTIONED THIS ADDED, UH, A FEW YEARS AGO, THE UM, TOWN OF BUFF IS COMMITTED TO PROTECTING AND ENHANCING ENVIRONMENT OF MAY RIVER.
UM, WE WILL IMPROVE WATER QUALITY, ECONOMIC, UH, VIABILITY AND, AND THE WATERSHED, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
UH, IT'S THE, UM, THE RIVER'S THE HEART.
WE WILL CELEBRATE THE MAY RIVER, UH, OUR HISTORY, CULTURE, AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE ENVIRONMENT IS PROTECTED.
MAKE SURE IT'S PROTECTED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
UH, THE FIRST GUIDING PRINCIPLE UNDER THIS ONE IS, UM, SUPPORT INITIATIVES SUCH AS MAY RIVER WATERSHED ACTION PLAN, IMPROVE WATER QUALITY.
GUIDING PRINCIPLE TWO IS, UM, SEEK A COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS A REGIONAL ISSUE.
IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT IT'S NOT JUST BLUFFTON AND IMPROVE THE UM, UM, THE MAY.
UH, AND, AND THE OTHER NEW RIVERS AND OTHER WATERSHEDS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO CELEBRATE MAY RIVER AND ITS HERITAGE.
AND THEN FOR SUPPORT, UH, ACTIVE PLANNING MANAGEMENT, UH, FOR RESILIENCY OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND LOOK, AND THIS ONE DEALS WITH CLIMATE CHANGE LOOKING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF WEATHER EVENTS, FUTURE DISASTERS, AND CHANGING ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, CONDITIONS UNDER YOUR, YOUR SURVEY RESULTS THAT ARE ON, I GET UP SEVEN.
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SEVEN.ON SEVEN, UM, ALL OF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT.
THERE WAS ONE STATEMENT REGARDING, UM, YOU KNOW, SEPTIC FAILURES IN THE AREA, WHICH IS REALLY A PROJECT THAT YOU KNOW WE'LL BE LOOKING AT LATER THIS AFTERNOON.
AND, AND THAT IS AN ONGOING ISSUE, I KNOW, UH, AND A PRIORITY FOR THE COUNCIL, BUT GENERALLY YOU SEEM TO BE, LOOKS OKAY, AT LEAST WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE, THE, THE FOCUS AREA AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
SO MOVING TO THE LAST BUT NOT LEAST.
IT'S, IT'S A, LARRY CAN ANSWER THIS FOR ME.
IT'S MORE OF A TECHNICAL KIND OF QUESTION, BUT THE, UH, THANK YOU.
UM, SO THE, UH, THE OKA TI KNOW THAT WE DIRECTLY IMPACT THAT AND I THINK THE, UH, THE AREA OF THAT IS PROBABLY EQUAL.
WHEN I SAY AREA, I MEAN THE RUNOFF AND EVERYTHING IS EQUAL TO THE AREA OF THE MAY RIVER.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COLLAGEN? I MEAN, HOW MUCH INPUT DO WE HAVE IMPACT ON THE COLLAGEN? THE COLLAGEN AND THE OKER ARE ALMOST TWO OF THE SAME.
YOU LIKE LARRY, I WAS WONDERING, OH, I WAS WONDERING WHAT DEREK, Y'ALL LOOK AT DEREK AND TRACY.
'CAUSE SHE'S GONNA TELL YOU IF WE'RE NOT TALKING LOUD ENOUGH, THE HEADWATERS ARE CONSIDERED THE OKEE, YOU KNOW, UP WHERE THE KENNETH STATE PROPERTY AND ALL THAT.
BUT THE COTON IS OFF FROM THAT CLOSER TO PORT ROYAL SOUND THAN THE OK TEAM, YOU KNOW.
SO, AND IF I, IF I CAN ADD INTO IT, THE AREA WE'RE SITTING IN RIGHT NOW IS PART OF THE, UH, COLTON.
SO FROM ABOUT HERE, UH, NORTH, THAT ALL CONTRIBUTES TO THE COLTON RIVER, RIGHT? THE BUCKWALTER, UH, PLACE, UH, BAYNARD PARK, THAT'S THE HEADWATERS OF THE OKEE, WHICH THEN CONTRIBUTES TO THE COLTON.
SO REALLY EVERYTHING NORTH OF THE MAY RIVER EVENTUALLY ENDS UP IN THE COLTON.
SO THE OKEE AREA, A LOT OF THAT AREA IS NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS OF BLUFFTON.
MORE OF IT WILL BE IN THE HARDY JURISDICTION IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
THAT AREA COMES DOWN AND MOVES IN EVERYTHING IN OKEE, SOUTH BUCK WALTER AREA COMES UP AND AROUND TO THE
I MEAN, I ONLY BRING IT UP FOR THE OBVIOUS APPARENT REASON THAT WE CAN'T, WE CAN TRY TO KEEP OUR WATER QUALITY AS BEST WE CAN, BUT A LOT OF IT LIES OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT WE'RE CAPABLE OF DOING THROUGH OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
AND IS THAT WORK, WORK WITH THEM ON, IS THAT WHY IT SAYS OKEE SLASH COLTON? MM-HMM.
'CAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF ONE AND THE SAME, BUT WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE BOTH.
THE OKEE IS, IS BASICALLY THE HEADWATERS OF THE COLTON.
YOU KNOW, THE PROB THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO IS THE WATER IS NOT AS DEEP AND IT KIND OF, IT DEAD ENDS, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE HEAD OF THE HEADWATERS OF THE MAY RIVER.
AND IF WE TALK ABOUT IMPAIRMENTS, THE, UH, OKEE HAS A-T-M-D-L, WHICH IS A TOTAL DAILY MAXIMUM LOAD.
WE'LL GET TOO TECHNICAL ABOUT THAT BILL, LEAN UP A LITTLE BIT.
UH, IT HAS AN IMPAIRMENT ON IT RIGHT NOW.
THE O
SO THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF SPLIT, SPLIT THAT OFF.
SO WE SPEND MORE TIME IN THE, UH, OAK OT AREA AND, AND TO GO INTO WHAT, UH, COUNCILMAN WOOD WAS KIND OF ANSWERING OR I THINK ASKING ABOUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT ONE AND TWO, IT DOES USE WORDS LIKE SUPPORT INITIATIVES.
IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THEY ALL HAVE TO BE OURS.
THAT, AND THEN WHEN IT COMES SEEK COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP, THAT CAN BE LIKE THE STORMWATER ORDINANCE THAT WE GOT, THE COUNTY AND US TO, THAT WE JOINTLY ADOPTED.
SO I THINK IT COVERS WHAT WE CAN ADDRESS AND ALSO WORKING WITH OTHERS ON AREAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THROUGH.
SO LOCO THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH AND MO AND, AND WORK WITH.
AND AND ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE NEW RIVER ACTUALLY SEPARATES BEAUFORT COUNTY FROM JASPER COUNTY.
SO ALL THE, THE STORM WATER FROM THAT GOES INTO THE NEW RIVER COMING FROM BLUFFTON, BEAUFORT COUNTY AND JASPER COUNTY.
EVERYTHING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE NEW RIVER IS CONSIDERED JASPER COUNTY.
I I THINK WHAT HAPPENED WITH ME HERE, I WAS READING PRINCIPLE ONE.
I HADN'T READ PRINCIPLE TWO YET.
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TWO ANSWERS TO STEVEN'S POINT.IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT I, MY POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE.
I JUST DIDN'T READ IT AT THE TIME.
OKAY, MAYOR, COUNSEL, UH, WE WILL MOVE TO THE, THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS, UH, LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS, IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND, AND IN THIS ONE WE, WE ARE ACTUALLY, UM, BASED ON THE MEETING YESTERDAY WITH STAFF, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, UH, DISCUSS A CHANGE.
UM, BUT THIS AGAIN IS PAGE 10 FOR WHOEVER'S FOLLOWING ALONG.
NO, IT'S JUST, I SAID 10 AND HE WENT TO SIX.
WELL, THERE'S A, THERE'S A JOKE.
UH, IT'S JUST, WE JUST LOVE EACH OTHER.
IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL, THIS IS GOOD.
UM, I LOVE THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFF IS COMMITTED TO IMPROVE, UM, PROVING QUALITY OF, UM, OF FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY BY HELPING DEVELOP AND PRODUCE ASSISTED LOW AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WORKFORCE.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, REGIONAL LEADER WILL, UH, MAXIMIZE, UM, STRATEGIC, UH, PUBLIC, UH, PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
SO YOU ALSO ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE REGIONAL, UH, ASPECTS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THE FIRST, UH, FOCUS AREA DEALS WITH FOSTERING, UH, UH, PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERS TO DESIGN AND HELP YOU, UM, DEVELOP DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS.
UH, THE SECOND IS TO ENHANCE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH REGIONAL PARTNERS.
UH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT YOUR, UH, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR LOCAL PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERS, BUT ALSO HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THIS AS A REGIONAL ISSUE.
AND THEN ON THIS THIRD ONE, WE WERE ALL SCRATCHING OUR HEDGE YESTERDAY, EVEN THOUGH WE, AND WHEN THE STAFF WAS ASKING, BILL AND I, WE WERE EVEN TRYING TO REMEMBER THIS WAS, UH, ADDED INTO ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY BUSINESS PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS AND INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS AND ENSURE A SAFE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS ALSO MENTIONED UNDER OUR COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND SO WE DIDN'T KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE.
WE WANT TO COME BACK TO THAT ONE.
ESTABLISH, UH, EASILY, UH, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOUR ORDINANCE AND POLICIES HELP TO PROMOTE, UM, THE EASE OF, OF A, OF, LET, LET ME JUMP IN ON THIS ONE.
SO WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS THAT WE REMOVE WHAT WAS, WHAT IS IN THE CURRENT PLAN, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AND STRICKEN AND REPLACE IT WITH THE NEW GUIDING PRINCIPLE THREE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN.
WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION YESTERDAY, WE WERE TRYING, LIKE YOU SAID, WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, AND WE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WHEN IT WAS TALKING ABOUT PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS, A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO HAS BEEN MAKING OUR PROCESSES EASIER TO NAVIGATE.
AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT CITI ALL CITIZENS WHEN THEY COME IN, THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESSES AND WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM.
UM, SO THAT IF THEY ARE TRYING TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR THEY'RE TRYING TO DO, UM, SOMETHING THAT KEEPS 'EM IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT THE S WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S WHERE Y'ALL WERE GOING WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S WHERE THIS LANGUAGE CAME FROM.
I DEFINITELY THINK THAT ONE MAKES, MAKES WAY MORE SENSE.
'CAUSE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY ONE SEEMS LIKE A OUTLIER IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HOUSING.
I DON'T KNOW, I DIDN'T, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THAT EITHER.
WELL, BUT GO UP TO THE TOP BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT SAFE.
WHEN YOU FINISH IT IN SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHO, WHO CAN, ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD BE SAFE.
WE SHOULDN'T LIKE, OH, WELL WE CAN'T HELP YOU THERE 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT WAS ON MY LIST WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY, BUT IF YOU WANNA FINISH UP, I HAVE SOME THOUGHT, I'VE GOT QUESTIONS ON THIS.
AS BILL MENTIONED, THERE WAS, UM, AND STEVEN, THERE WAS A SUBSTITUTE IN, IN TERMS OF PRINCIPAL THREE FOUR IS LOOK AT SEEK STATE AND FEDERAL ASSISTANCE.
AND FIVE IS LEVERAGE TOWN'S POSITION, UH, TO, UM, SEEK AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH EACH NEW DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHEN NEW DEVELOPMENTS COME IN, UH, THE TOWN WILL POSITION ITSELF TO SEE IF, IF A PORTION OR ALL OF THAT DEVELOPMENT CAN BE AFFORDABLE.
WELL, AND COUNSEL, I, I'LL, I'VE GOT A, IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND.
SO I HAVE THIS COP IN FRONT OF ME CALLED SAVE THE SHELTER.
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT NONPROFITS, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT THIS FELLOW RIGHT HERE SPEARHEADED.
I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS HOW WE CAN HANDHOLD WITH NONPROFITS AND ALSO PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO NOT HAVE HURDLES.
AND IT'S NO, NO FAULT, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT.
THERE ARE HURDLES WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES AND NOT SELL THEIR HOMES TO DEVELOPERS WHO THEN TURN THAT ONE HOME INTO EIGHT UNITS OF AFFORDABLE.
SO I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IT IN THIS SECTION IF WE CAN.
AND STEVEN CAN PROBABLY ADD MORE TO IT, BUT, WELL THAT THAT'S
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KIND OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WHEN WE DID THE LANGUAGE FOR NUMBER THREE.'CAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT EASILY NAVIGATED ORDINANCES AND POLICIES THAT ENCOURAGE, AND THEN WHEN IT SAYS THE MAINTAINING INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS THAT PROMOTE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR ALL, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE, OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS AND OTHER SIMILAR PROGRAMS LIKE THAT.
IF IT NEEDS TO BE, UM, OUTSIDE OF MAINTAINING, IT CAN BE PARTNERING ON INNOVATIVE FOR, YOU KNOW, WITH OTHER AGENCIES IF WE WANT.
WE WERE REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THE LANGUAGE ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S, WE WERE TRYING TO CAPTURE, MAKING IT EASY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND ALL OF THAT TOGETHER.
AND KIND OF A GUIDING PRINCIPLE.
'CAUSE WE, WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION, WE REALLY FELT THAT THAT'S WHERE NUMBER THREE WAS REALLY TRYING TO GET WITH THE, UM, PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE WERE, WE WERE KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE, TRYING TO MAKE IT ALL TIE TOGETHER.
SO ANY INPUT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET.
AND IF WE NEED TO REWORD ANY OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING ALL OF COUNCIL'S GOALS THERE, I THINK WE WERE HOPING THIS WAS A GOOD START TO TO, TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
I CAN, I'LL WAIT TILL OTHERS TALK.
WELL I, IF WE COULD GO BACK UP TO THE, UM, THE OVERARCHING, UM, POINT ALWAYS AT THE TOP NOW FOR THE SECTION ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE ELSE FEELS THE SAME WAY, BUT, UM, I THINK KEEPING THE WORD SAFE IN THERE PERPETUATES A STIGMA THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IN THE CONVERSATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARY OR THAT HELPS OUR CAUSE BECAUSE IF WE'RE WORKING TO DEVELOP HOUSING, UM, IT'S AN AUTOMATIC, YOU KNOW, I THINK UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS GONNA BE SAFE.
AND SO I DON'T, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT LANGUAGE ANYWHERE ELSE, LIKE I DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT IDEA GOING.
THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS TO BE SYNONYMOUS ALSO WITH UNSAFE.
WELL WHERE IS AN UNSAFE NEIGHBORHOOD? WHY ARE WE SAYING WE HAVE UNSAFE NEIGHBORHOODS IN OUR TOWN? WELL THAT'S HER POINT.
AND I AGREE THAT'S WHAT SHE THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.
SO TYPE FAST,
AND THEN WHEN WE CAME BACK, WE ADDED THIS WORKFORCE.
I SO YOU GOT AN EXTRA AFFORDABLE.
SO I THINK WE GOT AN EXTRA, I THINK THE WORDING IN THERE IS EXTRA FRED, THE MAYOR WOULD NEVER SAY, THE MAYOR WOULD NEVER SAY CITY AND I WOULD NEVER SAY WORKFORCE.
BUT I'M GLAD YOU HAVE AFFORDABLE FIRST.
UM, SO IN NEIGHBORHOODS, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S, TAKE THAT OUT, TAKE THAT PART OUT TOO.
I THINK NEEDS TO BE THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY OR JUST LEAVE IT.
WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ONE TOWN THROUGHOUT THE, IN THE TOWN.
UH, AGAIN, BECAUSE WHERE OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED ARE THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE, AND AND, AND EVEN WITHIN SOME, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS, WE'RE WORK TRYING TO WORK WITHIN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, OUTSIDE OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
SO I REALLY, I REALLY WANNA IMPRESS UPON THE NONPROFIT HELP.
AND I KNOW THAT'S THE PRIVATE END, BUT I'M SEEING THROUGH OUR TALK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PEOPLE ARE NOW SAYING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGAIN, WHICH IS NICE.
YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE FOCUSED ON A SUBSET, WHICH IS WORKFORCE THAT IS A SUBSET OF AFFORDABLE.
BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE ARE READY TO PROFIT, I MEAN, TO PARTNER WITH THE SAVE THE SHUTTERS AND OTHERS.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A GROUP STARTED, WHICH I'M THRILLED TO BE ON THE BOARD AND CARLI AS A PROGRAM DIRECTOR OF A GROUP THAT'S STARTING ON HILTON HEAD TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING AND BUY UNITS AND THEY'RE GONNA MOVE INTO BLUFFTON.
SO HOW CAN OUR PROCEDURES AND POLICIES MAKE THIS EASIER? ALL, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE EASY IN THIS TOWN, BUT HOW CAN WE SAY WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS FOR OTHERS THAT CAN GIVE US GUIDANCE AND HELP BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD THAT DON'T THINK GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS AT ALL.
RIGHT? SO HOW DO WE HEAVY, HEAVY, HEAVY SIDED SAY WE NEED HELP.
AND THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM RAISING MONEY, THEY JUST NEED HANDHOLDING FROM START TO FINISH.
AND THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE STOP WORK OF ANYTHING WHEN WE ALL GOTTA BE ON THE SAME PAGE.
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FRED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM? OR WERE YOU ASKING TO INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE IN HERE SOMEHOW TOO? I DON'T KNOW.I MEAN IT, I THINK WE SHOULD ADDRESS IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GETTING IN THE WEEDS OR IF IT'S IN THE, I THINK IT'S TOO DETAILED.
SO I ADDED THE WORD NON-PROFIT.
SO WE TALK ABOUT ENHANCING WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH NON-PROFITS AND REGIONAL PARTNERS THAT SAYS IT ALL.
AND THE FIRST ONE ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT PRIVATE.
SO IF IT IS A PRIVATE GROUP THAT'S LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING, WE THOSE AS WELL.
SO WE KIND OF PICK UP PRIVATE NON-PROFIT AND REGIONAL.
BUT YOUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES ARE THEY THEY'RE BROUGHT, I MEAN, I AGREE.
I THINK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE IS THE BEST AFFORDABLE HOUSING TOOL THAT WE TOOL WE'VE EVER ANYBODY'S EVER USED.
SHOULD IT BE IN THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES? THAT'S TODAY? YEAH.
TOMORROW THERE MAY BE EVEN A BETTER PROGRAM THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT YET.
SHOULD WE CALL? SO WE DON'T WANNA CALL IT OUT.
SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT PROGRAMS THEN? CURRENT PROGRAMS IN KHA? SO CARL LETHA SAID SUPPORTING OR SUPPORT SUPPORTIVE OF OTHER OR ALL HOUSING PROGRAMS SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
AND I DON'T THINK ENOUGH ATTENTION IS ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND WHAT VICKI AND I DON'T SEE VICKI TODAY, BUT WHAT VICKI HAS DONE IN THE PAST TWO YEARS WITH THAT AND NOBODY REALIZES IT.
WE'VE DONE MORE THAN JUST WAR STREET.
WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT WAS THAT? LANGUAGE SUP SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM.
SUPPORTING SUPPORTIVE OF SUPPORTIVE.
SUPPORTIVE OF HOUSING AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PRO.
SUPPORTIVE OF HOUSING OF OR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
SO THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, TALKING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
SO INSTEAD OF PROGRAM, SO FOR EVERYONE WHO'S LISTENING, THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAMS ARE CURRENT INITIATIVES IN FUTURE AND WE ARE SAYING, IS IT THAT'S A, THAT'S KIND OF A, OR ECONOMIC GARDENING WORD, SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAMS. RIGHT.
I I THINK MIGHT, WHAT MIGHT HELP ALSO IS THAT ON THAT, THE VERY LAST SENTENCE IT SAYS FOR MEETING OUR COMMUNITY'S CURRENT AND FUTURE HOUSING NEEDS, I THINK THAT KIND OF HELPS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO, TO KEEP THE PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES.
SO CURRENT HOUSING NEEDS AS WELL.
SO WHAT, SO THIS HAS BEEN THE CHANGE, THE GENERAL CHANGE IN THIS GRAY HIGHLIGHTED AND THEN WE ADDED NONPROFITS TO GUIDING PRINCIPLE TWO.
STRUCK OUT, STRUCK OUT THE BAD LANGUAGE IN GUIDING PRINCIPLE THREE AND, AND PUT THIS NEWER GUIDING PRINCIPLE THREE IN.
AND MAYOR, TO GO BACK TO SOME OF THE TOPICS YOU WERE BRINGING UP ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM EARLIER, IS WHEN YOU GET INTO THE ACTUAL AGENDA, THE ACTION ITEMS, YOU'LL, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY GOT STUFF IN THERE ABOUT LOOKING TO, UH, POTENTIALLY AMEND, APPROVE THAT PROGRAM.
SO I THINK AS WE TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC PROGRAMS THAT WE DO, THEY NEED TO BE MORE IN THE ACTION ITEM VERSUS HERE, LIKE CARLETTA WAS SAYING, IDENTIFY THE BROAD CATEGORY OF IT AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO THE SPECIFICS AND THE ACTUAL ACTION ITEMS. ARE Y'ALL AT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE?
HE'S GOT 18 DIFFERENT TEES HE CAN PICK FROM
COUNCIL, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER.
SO THAT IS YOUR FINAL, UH, FOCUS AREA.
AND UM, I THINK AT THIS POINT WE CAN, UM, MAYOR WITH YOUR RECOGNITION, WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE A BREAK AND GREAT.
SO WE ARE, I JUST WANT FOR WHOEVER IS OUT THERE LOOKING, UM, WE JUST BROADLY WENT OVER OUR PRIORITIES, BUT THEN DOWN IN NUMBER SEVEN IS OUR ACTUAL ACTION ITEMS THAT ARE GONNA FIT INTO THIS WHERE COM YOU KNOW, IF ANYONE NEEDS TO LEAVE AND THAT'S IMPORTANT, I WOULD SAY THAT'S GONNA BE SOMEWHERE AROUND TWO ISH IF WE'RE PLANNING TO BE FINISHED BY THREE 30 OR FOUR.
UM, AND WE VALUE, VALUE COMMENTS.
SO IF JUST KIND OF PLAN YOUR DAY AROUND THERE.
'CAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WORKING AND THEY'VE GOTTA GET BACK.
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OF A BREAK DO YOU WANT? ARE WE ON TRACK, FRED? I BREAK, UM, 1130.I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY PROBABLY ABOUT 15 MINUTES AHEAD OF WHERE WE WERE ANTICIPATING BREAKING BEFORE LUNCH.
SO WE, WE WE'VE, WE'VE GONE QUICKER.
LISTEN, ANYONE HERE, IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS AND YOU GOTTA GO GIVE IT TO ONE OF US AND WE'LL, WE'LL ASK ANY QUE AND WHILE WE'RE TAKING A BREAK, ARE ANY QUESTIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, ANYTHING? WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON.
WE MAY LET COURTNEY MAKE YOUR NEIGHBOR STAND UP AND SAY WHO HE IS.
COURTNEY, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? AND TALK LOUD.
'CAUSE I HAVE TO, FRED MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE WORD WORKFORCE AND I'M JUST WONDERING
WE KEEP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW NOT TO SELL AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE WE TRYING TO SATISFY THAT NOT IN MY BACKYARD.
AND LONG AS WE KEEP SATISFYING THOSE PEOPLE, WE ARE GONNA LOSE FOCUS.
SO WE IT, THERE'S TOO, IT IS TOO IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP TRYING TO CHANGE THE NARRATIVE.
EITHER WE, EITHER WE BUY INTO IT OR WE DON'T.
COURTNEY ASKED, UM, SHE'S WITH BLUFF AND SELF-HELP.
I'M JUST DOING THIS FOR THE RECORDING, THE WORDING OF AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE.
I, I THINK THERE ARE GROUPS THAT ONLY WANNA DO WORKFORCE AND WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT TOO.
I THINK WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ANYMORE IS ATTAINABLE AND WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT ANYMORE.
WE, I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE, Y'ALL.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE WANTS TO SAY IT.
WE'RE TAKING A 15 MINUTE BREAK.
IS ANYONE ELSE WANNA SAY ANYTHING? OKAY.
THE WORLD SERIES, THERE'S A SMASH TO RIGHT FIELD.
SO BUFORT COUNTY HOME RUN SHOT OVER THE RIGHT FIELD.
UM, WHAT? OH NO, BUT ARE WE READY? I, I THINK SO.
FRED, DO YOU NEED TO SCOOT? OH, OKAY.
AND IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, VERNA.
OH, WELL THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR.
AND I ALSO HAVE SARAH, ER WITH ME.
SHE IS A DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER AND I AM, UM, THE GENERAL MANAGER OF BEAUFORT JASPER WATER AND SEWER.
UM, AND I WAS SITTING HERE, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE BEING INVITED TO THIS.
IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THE CONVERSATION AND WHAT ALL YOUR PLANS ARE.
UM, WE DO HAVE OUR BOARD RETREAT TOMORROW.
SO IT'S, UH, KINDA GETS ME IN THE MOOD FOR
BUT I WAS SITTING THINKING AS, UM, ALL THE DISCUSSION WAS GOING ON THAT I ROLLED INTO TOWN SIX MONTHS AND TWO DAYS AGO.
UM, LITERALLY I ROLLED IN ON APRIL 30TH AND STARTED MY NEW JOB ON MAY 1ST.
I ACTUALLY STAYED A COUPLE STREETS OVER, UM, FOR A TIME PERIOD.
UM, BLUFFTON AND, AND ALL THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE IS, IS JUST AMAZING.
UM, SO IN MY SHORT TIME HERE, I'VE LEARNED A LOT, UM, AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID, I BET YOU'RE DRINKING FROM A FIRE HOSE.
AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF GO OVER A HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF B-J-W-S-A AND SOME OF THIS IS MY, UM, WHAT I'VE LEARNED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
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UTILITIES AND UTILITY FORMATION REALLY KIND OF FASCINATES ME BECAUSE IT REALLY SPEAKS TO HOW COMMUNITIES DEVELOP BECAUSE THEY'RE SO DEPENDENT ON A SAFE WATER SUPPLY AND HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, WASTEWATER FACILITIES AND SANITATION TO HAVE A SAFE COMMUNITY.SO I WAS INTERESTED IN HOW B-J-W-S-A STARTED, AND I JUST THOUGHT I'D PRESENT A TIMELINE, UM, IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, OR, OR IF YOU DO, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, A NICE REVIEW.
SO THE AUTHORITY WAS CREATED IN 1954, UM, BY THE SOUTH CAR CAROLINA LEGISLATURE.
UH, THE FIRST WATER TREATMENT PLANT WAS THE CHELSEA PLANT.
AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS, IT'S OVER ON, OFF OF SNAKE ROAD AT ONE 70, UM, REALLY RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF OUR SERVICE AREA.
AND I THINK WHAT'S FASCINATING TO ME, I'M A WATER PERSON.
I'M FROM, UM, I WORKED FOR SID DADDY WATERWORKS FOR 22 YEARS, AND THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT A WATER SYSTEM.
AND, AND ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS, THERE'S SEVERAL HERE, IS THAT 18 MILE CANAL THAT TAKES WATER FROM THE SAVANNAH RIVER OVER TO THE CHELSEA PLANT.
AND I THINK THE, THE CORE, THE US ARMY, THE, THE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BUILT FUNDED THAT CANAL.
AND, UM, IT WAS LIKE LESS THAN A MILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD AN 18 MILE CANAL, WHICH TO TODAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE WAS LIKE $800,000.
I THINK TODAY WOULD PROBABLY BE A BILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD THAT.
BUT IT, IT REALLY IS AMAZING TO KNOW, UM, THE GREAT WATER SOURCE WE HAVE WITH THE SAVANNAH RIVER HERE AND, AND THAT CANAL IS, IS REALLY PRICELESS.
UM, SO WE'RE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT.
UM, THROUGHOUT THE EARLY, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE SIXTIES, SEVENTIES, EIGHTIES, B-J-W-S-A CONTINUED TO GROW OVER TIME.
THAT, UH, TANK OUT ON HIGHWAY ONE 70 OVER IN, UM, NORTH ABROAD WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1965.
UM, THE AUTHORITY WAS GRANTED WASTEWATER SERVICE IN 1969.
AND THEN IN 1983, UM, THAT'S WHEN WE BECAME THE BUFORT JASPER WATER AND SE SEWER, UM, AUTHORITY WHEN WE CONSOLIDATED WITH JASPER COUNTY.
AND THEN IN 1984, THE CHELSEA PLANT WAS EXPANDED TO 16 M GDAS MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, A LOT OF WATER.
AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE, THE 1990S AND TWO THOUSANDS, THERE WERE NUMEROUS, UH, UPGRADES FACILITIES ADDED.
IN 1994, THE CHERRY POINT, UH, WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, WHICH IS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1999, THE CHELSEA PLANT WAS EXPANDED AGAIN TO ITS CURRENT CAPACITY OF 24 MGD.
UM, IN 2004, THE PERRYSBURG PLANT WAS CONSTRUCTED, WHICH, UM, IS JUST KIND OF NORTHWEST OF, UM, HARDY V IN 2006, PORT ROYAL ROYAL PLANT WAS CON, UM, CONSTRUCTED, WHICH IS NORTH ABROAD.
THE CHERRY PLANT, UH, WAS EXPANDED CHERRY POINT, I'M SORRY, WAS EXPANDED IN 2009 TO 7.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
IN 2012, THERE WAS A BIG WATER MAIN.
THE, UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THAT THAT B-J-W-S-A HAS A 36 INCH WATER MAIN.
UM, SO BLUFFTON WAS STARTED, AND THEN IN 2019, THE HARDY WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, UM, THAT FACILITY WAS EXPANDED TO 2.7 MGD.
AND JUST TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE, HOW MUCH THE UTILITY HAS GROWN.
IN 1989, WHICH IS AROUND WHEN I STARTED MY CAREER, UH, B-J-W-S-A HAD 30 EMPLOYEES, AND TODAY WE'RE, WE'RE RUNNING ALMOST AT 220.
UM, SO IT REALLY HAS GROWN AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE.
AND THEN TODAY, UM, B-J-W-S-A SERVES PARTS OF BEAUFORD AND JASPER COUNTIES.
IT COVERS 750 SQUARE MILES, WHICH IS A HUGE SERVICE AREA FROM A WATER UTILITY PERSPECTIVE.
UM, IT'S AMAZING TO ME ACTUALLY HOW BIG THE SERVICE AREA IS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT, IT'S A LOT TO COVER.
IT'S TAKES A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, AS YOU KNOW, UM, TO PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER TO THESE AREAS.
UM, WE SERVE FOUR MUNICIPALITIES, BLUFFTON, OBVIOUSLY, UH, BEAUFORT, HARDY V PORT ROYAL, AND WE HAVE 65,000 WATER CONNECTIONS AND OF 46,000 SEWER CONNECTIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE SEVEN WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS AND PROVIDE WATER, UM, TO THE MILITARY BASES NORTH ABROAD.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR WATER SYSTEM.
UM, THE PRIMARY WATER SOURCE, AS I SAID BEFORE, IS THE SAVANNAH RIVER THAT ACTUALLY SERVES BOTH PLANTS.
WE HAVE THE CHELSEA PLANT THAT GETS SERVED THROUGH THE 18 MILE LONG CANAL, AND THEN THE BURG PLANT DRAWS WATER DIRECTLY FROM THE SAVANNAH RIVER.
UM, OUR TOTAL TREATMENT CAPACITY TODAY IS 39 MGD, UM, PRAIRIES
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BURG THAT WAS BUILT IN 2004, ADDED 15 MGD, UM, TO THE ORIGINAL 24 THAT WAS AT CHELSEA.AND THEN OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, UM, A LOT OF WATERLINE COVERING THOSE 750, UH, SQUARE MILES, 1500 MILES, 10 BOOSTER STATIONS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY FIRE HYDRANTS AND VALVES ARE, ARE MAJOR PARTS OF OUR SYSTEM.
ALSO, OUR WASTEWATER PLANT CAPACITY IS ABOUT 10 AND A HALF MILLION GALLONS.
UM, WE HAVE EIGHT TREATMENT PLANTS.
WE HAVE TWO MA UH, ACTUALLY THREE MAJOR PLANTS, AND THAT WOULD BE THE HARDY CHERRY POINT.
AND THEN THE PORT ROYAL PLANTS, UM, MORE THAN A THOUSAND MILES OF SEWER, UH, PIPE AND A LOT OF LIFT STATIONS HERE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT AMAZED ME.
I COME FROM A VERY HILLY TERRAIN.
AND WHEN I GOT HERE AND FOUND OUT THERE WERE 530 PUMP STATIONS, I, I COULD NOT BELIEVE THAT.
BUT, UM, THERE'S OBVIOUS REASONS FOR THOSE WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY AND THE GROUNDWATER TABLE HERE.
SEWER IS A CHALLENGE JUST FROM THE TOPOGRAPHY AND THE, FROM THE, THE, THE, UH, THE VASTNESS OF THE LAND THAT, THAT WE SERVE, UM, OUR WASTEWATER PLANTS.
UM, IT'S BASICALLY A NATURE THAT'S SPED UP IS HOW I ENVISION WASTEWATER PLANTS.
THE PROCESSES THAT WE USE ARE JUST A REPLICATION OF WHAT NATURE USES, AND WE JUST PROVIDE, UM, WAYS TO SPEED THAT PROCESS UP SO THAT WE CAN TREAT THE WATER AND THEN DISCHARGE IT BACK INTO THE ENVIRONMENT IN, IN THE, IN A PRISTINE MANNER.
UM, BASICALLY THE WAY IT, IT ORIGINALLY WAS, UM, WE USE THE BIOLOGICAL TREATMENT.
WE USE NATURE, LIKE I SAID, TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
WE ALSO DISINFECT THE WATER BEFORE WE RELEASE IT BACK TO THE ENVIRONMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO DISEASE CAUSING ORGANISMS, UM, IN THE WATER.
AND WE DO THAT WITH ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT OR WE MAY USE, UM, A FORM OF CHLORINE TO DO THAT.
UM, WE ALSO, UH, SUSTAINABILITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.
SO WE DO, UM, INCORPORATE SOLAR ARRAYS, UM, AT OUR, UH, TREATMENT PLANTS.
AND WE GENERATE MORE THAN 1200 MEGAWATTS OF ENERGY ANNUALLY TO REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT.
SO PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL HERE TODAY.
UM, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, JUST TO GIVE YOU A VERY HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF WHAT B-J-W-S-A HAS DONE, WE, OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE WATER QUALITY, WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES TO OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE CUSTOMERS OF THE LOW COUNTRY.
UM, THE THEMES OF THIS I DON'T THINK ARE GOING TO SURPRISE ANYONE.
WORKFORCE IS OBVIOUSLY A BIG ISSUE, UM, FOR ALL OF US.
AS I LISTEN TO THE ISSUES WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN TOO BECAUSE OUR WORKFORCE, AS WITH ALL OF OURS, WE NEED TO HAVE, UM, COMMUNITIES THAT THEY, TO DRAW PEOPLE TO THIS AREA TO WORK THAT THEY COULD LIVE IN.
WE ARE, UM, AS I WENT OVER ALL OF OUR IN INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, WE'RE CONTINUALLY PUTTING MORE IN AND WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE.
I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, HAVING PROGRAMS IN PLACE TO MAINTAIN THOSE ASSETS.
AND OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS ALL ABOUT MINIMIZING THAT LIFECYCLE COST FROM THE TIME THAT WE PUT IT IN TO THE TIME THAT WE RETIRE THAT ASSET, ARE WE REALLY MINIMIZING THE COST OF OWNING IT? AND OF COURSE, THAT LEADS INTO OUR FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY AND MAKING SURE THAT NOT ONLY, UM, DO WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER SERVICES, THEY HAVE TO BE AFFORDABLE OR ELSE IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYONE ANY GOOD IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.
SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US IN OUR RATE SETTING, UM, ENGAGING CUSTOMERS AND STAKEHOLDERS.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UM, VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
IN FACT, WE ARE, UM, IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS POSITION TO REALLY, UM, INCREASE OUR COLLABORATION AND OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITY COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY SO IMPORTANT TO US.
THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TO SERVE THEM, UM, AND MANAGE RISK AND LEVERAGE INNOVATION.
OF COURSE, RISK IS SYNONYMOUS WITH COST.
AND, UM, THE ORIGINAL COMMENT THAT STARTED THIS WAS IF WE HAD ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD AS, AS WAS MENTIONED.
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WAYS WE COULD MANAGE OUR RISK AND STILL, YOU KNOW, BE INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE IN HOW WE'RE SOLVING, SOLVING OUR PROBLEMS. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE, UM, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GO OVER, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE WITH, WITH
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OUR PLANNING.UM, WE DO, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE IS A, IS A HOT TOPIC.
THAT'S WHAT WE GET ASKED ABOUT A LOT.
WE DO A MASTER PLAN, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU ALL DO.
WE UPDATE IT OUR EVERY FIVE YEARS.
UM, THAT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT NOW.
I THINK ACTUALLY WE UPDATED IT IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING SO QUICKLY HERE.
THE OTHER THING THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER TOO IS THE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN 2021 AND NOW, THE WHOLE INFRASTRUCTURE SEEN HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY WITH SUPPLY CHAIN.
OUR COSTS HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ROOF.
UM, WE'VE REALLY HAD IN A LOT OF, UM, SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES IN THE COST OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT VERY CLOSELY.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, WE JUST RE-UP, UPDATED OUR PLAN EARLIER THAN WE THOUGHT BECAUSE WE JUST FINISHED IT IN 2022.
AND THAT ONE WAS A 20 YEAR OUTLOOK.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE KEEPING TABS ON THAT VERY CLOSELY BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTH ABROAD SERVICE AREA.
UM, IN THESE PLANS WE EXAMINE, UM, HISTORICAL USAGE, OUR TOTAL SYSTEM CAPACITY, POPULATION PROJECTIONS, AS I SAID.
CIP IS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, PROGRAM AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
AND ALSO LOOKING AT OUR PER CAPITA CON CONSUMPTION TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WITH POPULATION PROJECTIONS THAT WE'RE ACCURATELY PROJECTING THE FLOWS THAT WE NEED TO TREAT.
UM, OUR FY 24 PROGRAM INDICATES $85 MILLION OF NEW AND EXISTING PROJECTS.
AGAIN, THAT'S A VERY LARGE NUMBER.
UM, AND GETTING INTO THE THREE YEAR CIP PLAN FOR 24 THROUGH 26 IS $328 MILLION.
AND HONESTLY, THIS IS MORE THAN WHAT, WHERE I CAME FROM.
I'M FROM CINCINNATI AND IT'S MORE THAN WHAT OUR CAPITAL PLAN WAS FOR THAT ENTIRE METROPOLITAN REGION.
SO IT'S, IT'S SUBSTANTIAL AND THERE'S A LOT OF, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF GROWTH GOING ON THAT, THAT THIS IS GOING TOWARDS.
IT'S ALSO GOING TOWARDS MAINTAINING CURRENT ASSETS, KEY PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL MAY BE INTERESTED IN.
THE PERRYSBURG, UH, WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION, UM, THAT'S BEING DONE TO ADDRESS, UM, THE GROWTH IN THIS AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL DOUBLE THE, THE CAPACITY OF THAT PLANT.
UM, THAT PLANT IS ALSO, UM, WHAT'S REALLY NICE ABOUT THAT PLANT IS IT'S SET UP IN A VERY MODULAR FASHION.
SO THE, THE NEXT EXPANSION TO 45 MGD, UM, ALSO COULD BE KICKED OFF.
UM, SHOULD GROWTH, UH, EXPAND QUICKER THAN WHAT'S ANTICIPATED.
UM, THERE'S A NEW ONE AND A HALF MILLION GALLON ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, CONSTRUCTED, UH, OFF OF BUCKWALTER.
THAT IS, UH, THAT PROPERTY'S BEEN PURCHASED.
WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, IN PLANS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUC CONSTRUCTION SHOULD START NEXT YEAR.
THE CHERRY POINT WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, WHICH, WHICH SERVES THE BLUFFTON AREA, UM, WILL BE EXPANDED.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT ONE IS SCHEDULED TO BE, UM, ONLINE IN 26 27 TIMEFRAME.
AND THEN THE, AS AS HEATHER RED BROUGHT UP EARLIER, THE, THE STONY CREEK PROJECT, UM, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT OUR BOARD HAS APPROVED THE, UH, INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT AND I HAVE SIGNED THAT.
UM, THAT'S ON ITS WAY AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING ON THAT PROJECT AND GETTING, UM, A SEWER SYSTEM INSTALLED IN THAT AREA AND ALSO PROVIDING WATER SERVICE.
SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I COULD ANSWER AND UM, I'D BE GLAD TO DO THAT.
QUESTIONS, BRIDGET? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ALSO, DEFINITELY A GRAVE CONCERN.
SO YOU MENTIONED, UM, I KNOW YOUR FEES, AS YOU SAID, HAVE, HAVE INCREASED IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROJECT NEEDS AND OTHER THINGS COMING UP.
UM, ONE THING THAT WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH HERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY, UM, NATIVE RE RESIDENTS AND RESIDENTS UNDER CERTAIN, UM, INCOME THRESHOLD THAT STRUGGLE WITH THAT IMPACT FEE.
AND I KNOW IT'S A BLANKETED FEE, PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE PAYS IT.
UM, WHAT CONSIDERATIONS ARE YOU ALL THINKING OF OR COULD BE GIVEN, UM, TO THOSE RESIDENTS? 'CAUSE I KNOW FINANCIALLY IT IS REALLY
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BE, BECOME, UH, A BURDEN AND AN IMPEDIMENT TO SOME WHO JUST CANNOT AFFORD THAT, THAT THAT IMPACT, UM, THAT SEWER CONNECTION IMPACT FEE.UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, A PROGRAM THAT, UH, FUND WILL FUND INCOME QUALIFIED, UM, CUSTOMERS WHO WANT TO CONNECT SO THAT WE CAN COVER THOSE COSTS OR ASSIST WITH COVERING THOSE COSTS.
AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY OF THE NAME OF THE PROGRAM.
SARAH, DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THAT ONE? YES.
IT'S CALLED THE COLEMAN PROGRAM.
ALSO HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM CALLED THE HARDSHIP FUND, WHICH IT'S SOMETHING EITHER SHE HAS TO, YEAH.
NO, 'CAUSE WE NEED TO RECORD IT.
MAYBE COME UP TO, DO YOU NEED ME TO START OVER? I WAS GONNA, YEAH, OUR, I WAS GONNA HAVE TO REPEAT.
UM, SO WE HAVE THE THAD COLEMAN PROGRAM, WHICH IS INCOME BASED.
THAT, UM, HELPS WITH THOSE IMPACT FEES AND CONNECTIONS.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE A HARDSHIP FUND AND THAT FUND WILL ALSO HELP WITH THE SERVICE LINE PORTION BECAUSE ONCE YOU CONNECT, THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE SIDE ON THE PROPERTY THAT CAN HELP WITH THAT.
THE HARDSHIP FUND IS ALSO FOR, UM, AND THAT ONE IS NOT INCOME BASED.
IT CAN HELP WITH ANYONE WHO HAS ENCOUNTERED A HARDSHIP, CAR ACCIDENT, HEALTH ISSUES TO HELP WITH THEIR REGULAR WATER AND SEWER BILLS.
UM, AND THAT'S ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE UNITED WAY.
JUST CALL INTO OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THEY WILL HELP WITH THAT.
AND DO YOU HAVE A THRESHOLD IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW MUCH YOU'RE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO BE IMPACTED THROUGH THOSE, UM, FUNDS EACH YEAR? LIKE IS THERE A CUTOFF? NOPE.
WHATEVER THE FUNDS ARE THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
AND BOTH OF THOSE ARE VERY HEALTHY ACCOUNTS, SO, UM, NO, THERE IS NO THRESHOLD OR CUTOFF.
UM, WE'D RATHER THEM BE UTILIZED THAN SIT AND NOT BE UTILIZED, SAY IT, AND THEY JUST CONTACT CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ASK FOR THOSE TWO.
AND THOSE PROGRAMS ARE ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE TOO.
ANY ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS, MR, TO JUST ONE QUESTION.
YOU'RE, UM, YOU WERE SHOWING YOUR CAPACITIES, UM, ON YOUR, YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
WHERE ARE YOU? I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER.
46 MILLION? UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER PER NUMBER NOW.
UM, BUT AT WHAT LEVEL ARE YOU ARE AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT CAPABILITIES THAT YOU HAVE? ARE YOU 75% OR 50 OR RIGHT.
IT DEPENDS ON, SO OUR TREATMENT PLANTS SERVE DIFFERENT BASINS.
SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT BASIN YOU'RE TOP WE'RE IN, LIKE THE PORT ROYAL PLANT, IT PROBABLY HAS ABOUT 50% OF THE CAPACITY LEFT, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE.
BUT THE CHERRY POINT PLANT, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT IS UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW FOR EXPANSION, WE'RE PROBABLY AT EIGHT.
I THINK IT'S 80%, I THINK IT'S AT 80%.
BASICALLY THOSE ARE BEING WATCHED BY DHC, WHO ONCE YOU HIT A CERTAIN LEVEL, IT TRIGGERS YOU TO START DESIGN AND MOVING THAT PROJECT FORWARD.
SO, AND, AND MOST OF THE SEWER AND STUFF FROM BLUFFTON WOULD GO TO CHERRY POINT PLANT? YES.
AND THEN HARDY V AREA SERVED BY THE HARDY PLANT IN PORT ROYAL SERVES, UM, NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
QUESTIONS MR. WOOD OR MR. HAMILTON? WE'LL JUST GO DOWN.
GO FRED, AS YOU HEARD, WE, UM, TRYING TO PARTNER WITH SOME PRIVATE SECTORS TO HELP WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IS THERE ANY PROGRAMS THAT'S WOULD SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS? BECAUSE, AND I HEARD YOU SAID INCOME BASED ON, ON THE GRANT THAT YOU HAVE, THE COLEMAN FUND.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH TO HELP BRING THE COST DOWN FOR DEVELOPERS TO MAKE THE HOMES AFFORDABLE? RIGHT.
I THINK THE, THE THAD COLEMAN FUND WOULD ALLOW INDIVIDUAL, UM, HOMEOWNERS WOULD QUALIFY FOR THAT.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROGRAM FOR, FOR DEVELOPERS, BUT IF THERE'S A HOMEOWNER, UM, OR IF THE HOME, I THINK IF THE HOME WERE DESIGNATED AS LOW INCOME MM-HMM.
UM, I KNOW IT, IT IS SOMETHING OUR BOARD IS LOOKING AT AND HAS HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG TOPIC RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO IT'S UP DEFINITELY UP FOR DISCUSSION
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WITH OUR BOARD AND THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS.THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS ON MY LIST TOMORROW,
SO JUST TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, I KNOW I'M NOT PART OF P-G-W-S-A, BUT IT CAME UP A LOT IN OUR DISCUSSION WITH STONY CREEK WITH A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED THROUGH A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE WHERE WE CAN, UM, FORGET FEES, WE CAN PAY FOR THE COM CAPACITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE DO AND FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK THAT'S A CON CONVERSATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THEM.
UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING ARE IN PLACES WHEN THE FEES GET AS HIGH AS THEY ARE, WE'VE GOTTA COME UP WITH THOSE FUNDS TO MAKE IT REALLY NOT IMPACT THE HOMEOWNERS A LOT.
SO WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION AS PART OF STONY CREEK AND I HOPE WE'LL CONTINUE THAT.
I, I, I THINK THE POINT'S BEEN MADE.
UH, WE UNDERSTAND IMPACT FEES, WE'VE AGONIZED OVER THOSE DECISIONS AND WE KNOW THEY'RE NEEDED GROWTH TO PAY FOR GROWTH, BUT THEY'RE ALSO ADVERSARIAL TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO THAT'S WHY THESE QUESTIONS ARE COMING UP.
UM, ONE THING WE HEAR FREQUENTLY IS BECAUSE OF, OF GROWTH, WE'RE ALWAYS ASKED, UM, IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THE NEEDS OF THE GROWTH? AND YOU MENTIONED THIS A MOMENT AGO, I THINK DHE, WHEN YOU, I THINK IT'S 70%, IS IT WHEN YOU HIT A CERTAIN NUMBER THAT YOU WERE MANDATED TO UPGRADE YOUR FACILITIES TO CAPACITY WISE, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO BASED ON THAT, UM, I GET ASKED THAT.
WELL, WE ALL GET ASKED THAT QUESTION.
UM, SO ARE YOU ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE CAPACITY NEEDS OF THE AREA BETWEEN HARDY V AND BLUFFTON? YES.
THAT'S WHY WE, UM, THAT'S WHY THE CHERRY POINT PLANT IS UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW FOR EXPANSION.
UM, IN FACT, WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY ONCE THAT GETS CONSTRUCTED, DEPENDING ON THE FLOW RATES, WE MAY BE, WE MAY BE RIGHT BACK INTO ANOTHER EXPANSION.
SO WE'RE WATCHING IT VERY CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY, UM, AVAILABLE TO SERVE THOSE AR THOSE AREAS.
AND THE, AND THE, YOU KNOW, TO THAT POINT, AND I KNOW I I, FROM THE ELECTRIC UTILITY INDUSTRY AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE FORWARD LOOKING.
THEY HAVE TO BE JUST LIKE, YOU HAVE TO BE USUALLY AT LEAST 20 YEARS OUT.
UM, ALL THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO THE MUNICIPALITIES, I'M, I'M ASSUMING I'M, I'M ASSUMING HARDY V IS SIMILAR IN NATURE TO US, UH, YOU HAVE TO SIGN OFF, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU HAVE TO SIGN OFF TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THE LETTERS AND THE PACKETS FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SERVE.
UM, SO THAT IS ONE REASON I HAVEN'T PANICKED BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT IF PEOPLE ARE SIGNING OFF THAT IF THEY COULDN'T, THEY WOULD SAY SO.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST, I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE WE DO REPEATEDLY GET ASKED THESE QUESTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
CAN I ASK FIRST? YOU CAN GO FIRST.
UM, AND THEN I KNOW WE HAVE ONE IN, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE.
SO I WANNA GO ON, LET ME FIND MY NOTES.
WHAT DAN SAID, YOU KNOW, OUR, NO ONE WANTS TO TAKE TIME TO LEARN ABOUT WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
SO WHEN THE WATER LINES WERE BEING PUT DOWN MAY RIVER ROAD, WE GOT CALLS, BEAUFORT, JASPER WATER SAYS THEY CAN'T MANAGE THE GROWTH, AND THEN IT FALLS BACK ON US.
BUT YOU DID INDEED, NOT YOU, BUT YOU DID INDEED SIGN A LETTER DURING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT SAID, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THIS.
I GUESS I'M KIND OF SPEAKING FROM MY INNER MAYOR WILLIAMS, UM, BECAUSE WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE COMMERCIAL GROWTH TO, TO ADAPT TO THE NEEDS OF ALL OF OUR PEOPLE MOVING HERE.
AND HOW CAN YOU GIVE US HELP TO SAY THEY'RE STRUGGLING? SO EITHER CUT YOUR DENSITY, ARE, UM, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW.
I, I GUESS WE ALL NEED TO BE PARTNERS IN THIS.
WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME WAY TO SAY, WELL, NO YOU CAN'T BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUTTA POWER, WE'RE RUNNING OUTTA WATER.
BUT IF YOU TRULY FEEL YOU'VE GOT IT AND YOU CAN STAY AHEAD OF IT, THEN, THEN WE CAN SAY THAT TOO.
SO I THINK THAT MAYBE IS A STATEMENT.
MAYBE YOU CAN, I, I THINK I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO WORK CLOSELY WITH YOU.
AND ACTUALLY, AND I MEANT TO SAY THIS AND I, I FORGOT.
UM, WE JUST HIRED A CHIEF OF ENGINEERING WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
WE'VE REALLY ELEVATED THAT WHOLE, UM, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT IS SO CRITICAL HERE.
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A, WE'RE ADDING STAFF TO DEAL WITH THE PLANNING, THE PLANNING SIDE OF IT.UM, WE, IN ADDITION TO THE CHIEF OF ENGINEERING, WE HIRED A PRINCIPAL PLANNER AND A NEW CAPITAL PROGRAM MANAGER.
SO THAT PLANNER, UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING ADDITIONAL OUTREACH AND COLLABORATE AND, AND MAKING SURE WE STAY ON TOP OF THAT AND WORKING WITH YOUR TEAM.
MM-HMM,
AND I'M GONNA BE A CONSTITUENT OUT THERE IN JANUARY.
I'D LOVE TO SEE YOUR CIP LIST.
IF IT'S ON THE WEBSITE, JUST LET US KNOW WHERE THEY ARE BECAUSE YOU'RE JUMPING TO ONE YEAR.
80 SOME MILLION, BUT IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS YOU HAVE 300 AND WHATEVER.
AND MY LORD, NO WONDER THEY CHARGE IMPACT FEES.
WE WERE GIVEN A, UH, BEFORE YOU CAME VERNA, WE WERE GIVEN A, A LOCATION WHERE IT WAS GOING.
AND THEN COUNCIL NEVER REALLY HEARD BACK THAT IT HAD BEEN MOVED.
AND I KNOW YOU'VE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, ARE Y'ALL CONSIDERING THE WATER LINES? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PLANS FOR MORE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ONE IMPORTANT THING TO ME REALLY IS CONNECTING FIVE B TO THE SYSTEM OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY.
SO THERE'S A FREE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
AND ARE YOU CONSIDERING THOSE WATER LINES TO KIND OF COME UP THE POWER LINE TO HIT BLUFFTON PARKWAY AS WELL? 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE PUTTING THE WATER TOWER ON THE, ON THE EASTERN SIDE, KIND OF BEHIND TOWNS AT BUCK WALTERS.
I, I HAD THAT BROUGHT UP TO ME YESTERDAY AND I THOUGHT, WELL, I'M GONNA SEE YOU AND I'LL JUST MAKE SURE I HEAR WHAT Y'ALL ARE THINKING.
AND WE CAN, I CAN GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT.
I'D HAVE TO, TO ASK OUR CAPITAL PLANNING FOLKS, BUT AGAIN, IT GOES TO, WE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU.
SO DEFINITELY, UH, WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE OUR PLANNERS INVOLVED.
SO, AND THEN I THINK LARRY HAD A QUESTION AND ONE OF OUR CHAIR OF, UM, HPC HAD A QUESTION.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN AN ELECTION CYCLE RIGHT NOW.
SO I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM A, A LOT OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY OUT IN THE HERITAGE AT NEW RIVERSIDE AREA, ABOUT CONSTANT BROWN WATER IN THEIR KITCHENS AND THEIR BATHTUBS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF, WE ARE GETTING ROCKS THROWN AT US BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING UP MM-HMM.
AND THEY'RE SAYING, HOW COULD YOU LET 'EM BUILD MORE HOUSES? AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE CLEAN WATER IN OUR HOUSES.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEING SAID TO US.
HAS IT BEEN CORRECTED? IS IT GONNA BE AN ONGOING THING OR JUST WHERE ARE WE ON THAT TODAY? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION TOO.
WE HAVE BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT, UM, THAT THE CAUSE OF THAT IS MINERALS THAT ARE, HAVE SETTLED OUT IN THE WATER OVER YEARS.
AND THEN AS YOU KNOW, WATER DEMANDS INCREASE BECAUSE OF GROWTH.
IF THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS AT THE SYSTEM, WHETHER IT'S A MAIN BREAK OR SOMEBODY OPENS A FIRE HYDRANT THAT THEN THOSE, THOSE MINERALS GET RESUSPENDED AND THAT'S HOW THEY SHOW UP IN THE WATER.
UM, PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THING THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW TO ADDRESS THAT.
WE'VE, WE'VE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY RECOMMENDED WAS IMPLEMENTING A UNIDIRECTIONAL FLUSHING PROGRAM.
AND WE ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH MANY OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND DOING A HIGH VELOCITY FLUSH OF THE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE, UM, VALVE THE SYSTEM AND WE OPEN HYDRANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THE VELOCITY THAT WE WANT TO RE, TO SUSPEND ANYTHING THAT'S IN THERE AND BASICALLY FLUSH THE MAIN OUT.
AND, UM, THAT'S BEEN PROVING TO BE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.
UM, IT SEEMS TO BE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING VERY RECENT.
UM, WE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL OUR SUMMER DEMANDS WENT DOWN, YOU KNOW, SO WE COULD DO IT WHEN, UM, WE HAD A ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF WATER.
UM, BUT THAT SEEMS TO HAVE REALLY REDUCED THE ISSUES.
UM, WE ALSO PROVIDE, UM, CUSTOMERS, UM, HANDOUTS, UM, ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO.
WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY HIRED AN ADDITIONAL PERSON TO HELP ADDRESS, TO BE KIND OF A LIAISON WITH CUSTOMERS SO THAT THEY HAVE SOMEBODY THEY CAN CALL, WE CAN CHECK BACK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN CORRECTED.
UM, WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS PROBLEM TO LET US KNOW, UM, BECAUSE SOME, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN REALLY KNOW WHERE TO TARGET OUR RESOURCES TO FLUSH AND, AND CLEAN OUT THE SYSTEM.
BUT IT'S OUR HOPE THAT, UM, BY IMPLEMENTING THIS UNIDIRECTIONAL FLUSHING PROGRAM AND THEN DOING IT
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NOT JUST ONE TIME, BUT DOING IT ON A, A PERIODIC BASIS, THERE'S SOME UTILITIES THAT THEY'LL, THEY'LL DO 25% OF THEIR WATER SYSTEM PER YEAR.SO DEPENDING ON HOW THIS GOES, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE OUT REDOING IT AT A FUTURE DATE, UM, TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT AND MAKE SURE HOPEFULLY THAT ISSUE GETS MITIGATED.
THE, UM, I KNOW YOU CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE.
IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT PERSONALLY, BUT THE OTHER COMPLAINT WAS WHEN THEY TRIED TO CALL REPETITIVELY TO SAY, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA GET MY, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA GET ME SOME CLEAR WATER INSTEAD OF THIS BROWN WATER? THEY SAID THAT THE LACK, THE RESPONSE WAS ALMOST NON-EXISTENT.
THAT'S WHAT THESE ARE SAYING TO ME.
AND THAT IS, THAT IS ONE BIG REASON.
WE'VE ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, I THINK THAT THE PERSON IS GONNA BE STARTING, WE'VE HIRED AN ADDITIONAL PERSON TO HELP ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO HAVE THAT RESPONSE.
AND I THINK GETTING ALL YOUR TOWNS AND GOVERNMENTS, THAT MESSAGE IS HELPFUL.
'CAUSE WE ALL HAVE PIOS AND WE CAN GET IT OUT.
NOT EVERYONE'S GONNA CARE TO READ, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN SAY, DID YOU NOT SEE THE POST OR THE EMAIL? CHRISTIE IS OUR CHAIR OF ATAC.
I SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I SAID.
AND A BUSINESS OWNER HERE, SORRY, SHE HAD A QUESTION.
SO IT GOES BACK TO YOUR, UH, QUESTION ABOUT BUCKWALTER.
OH, WHERE ON BUCKWALTER? IS IT THE, UH, THE TANK? YES, IT IS AT THE CORNER OF BUCKWALTER.
UM, WHERE IN BLUFFTON? THE NORTHERN WHERE BLUFFTON PARKWAY GOES OFF OF BUCK WALTER THE NORTHERN, IT'S BEHIND THE TOWNS AT BUCK WALTER.
OKAY, SO THAT GOES INTO NO, ISN'T IT? YEAH.
NO, THEY MOVED, THEY KEPT, THEY BOUGHT IT THERE, RIGHT? OR IS IT AT, UM, WILLOW RUN? KEVIN PLANS? YES.
UM, THE, UH, BUCKWALTER TOWNS BOULEVARD, WHICH INTERSECTS WITH, UM, BUCKWALTER PARKWAY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 500 YARDS BACK RIGHT AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE TOWNS AT BUCKWALTER DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHERE I WAS THOUGHT IT WAS.
SO IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF BUCKWALTER OR WEST SIDE, EAST SIDE.
SO THEN THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING, SO MAYOR, YOU SAID THAT IT WAS GONNA BE A TOWER IS GONNA BE A TOWER IS GONNA BE A TANK.
IT'LL BE AN ELEVATED, IT'LL BE ON THE GROUND OR IT'LL BE IN THE AIR? IT'LL BE IN THE AIR.
WAIT, WHERE, WHERE WILL BE THE PUB? I KNOW WE, YOU'VE COME TO THE TOWN WHEN WE THOUGHT IT WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
ACTUALLY NEAR WILLOW RUN, I THINK IS WHERE WE FIRST THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE.
UM, SO I THINK JUST HER AS A CONSTITUENT, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO LET US KNOW SO WE CAN GET IT OUT AND, AND I DON'T, I THINK YOU'RE PAST THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU'VE ALREADY BOUGHT THE LAND.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF? ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE QUESTIONS? MAYOR WILLIAMS, DID YOU AGREE WITH MY QUESTION OR NO? OKAY.
WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, AS THE TOWN HAVE ALSO INVITED VERNA TO SPEAK TO US.
SO, UM, WE, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN INFORMED, BUT I, I THINK YOUR IDEA OF BRINGING THAT BEFORE, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AT, AT A FUTURE, SO LOCO MEETING IS, IS A GOOD ONE.
UM, JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, UM, STEVEN IS GONNA BE AT OUR MEETING TOMORROW, UM, PRESENTING ON SOME OF THE STUFF THAT I'M SURE THAT'S HEARD TODAY.
AND, UH, SARAH AND I DO HAVE TO LEAVE IN ABOUT ABOUT 1215.
WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING OVER ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND, BUT, UM, DO APPRECIATE THE, THE CONVERSATION.
DID, WERE YOU GONNA THE CIP LIST, ARE THEY ON YOUR WEBSITE OR IT IS NOT.
BUT I'M SURE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DID HAVE, I DID HAVE A QUESTION, BUT, UM, I'LL REPRESENT THE REALTORS OF THE WORLD.
IT'S HARD TO FIND WHERE WATER AND SEWER LINES ARE IN ANY PART OF THE REGION.
AND TO, AND I'VE HEARD, OH, WE CAN'T TELL YOU BECAUSE SOMEONE MAY STEAL IT OR WHATEVER.
DO Y'ALL PUT YOU, YOU, YOUR WEBSITE IS LIKE, OURS IS HARD.
IS THERE A PLACE TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN CLICK AND SAY, THIS PROPERTY HAS WATER AND SEWER? UM, NO, BUT THAT ACTUALLY IS AN INTERESTING THOUGHT.
'CAUSE ONE REASON WE HAVEN'T PUT IT OUT THERE IS FOR SECURITY REASONS.
UM, IT'S CONSIDERED CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE, WE JUST
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DON'T WANT THE LOCATION OF WATER AND SEWER LINES.BUT THAT IDEA OF SAYING, YOU KNOW, CLICKING ON A PROPERTY TO SAY WHETHER THIS HAS WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLES, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S AN INTERESTING AVAILABILITY MAP.
WELL, JUST THAT THEY HAVE IT OR THAT THE LINE, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK, I KNOW WE STARTED THIS FEE TO GET A ZONING LETTER FROM OUR TOWN BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUES ARE.
PEOPLE BUY, THEY DON'T REALIZE ANYTHING.
AND IT COULD BE SOMETHING AS EASY AS WORKING WITH OUR TOWN STAFF OR COUNTY ANYWHERE TO SAY, UM, TO PUT EITHER THAT GIS MAP TOGETHER OR INCLUDED IN A ZONING LETTER.
THERE'S, THERE'S, UM, PROPERTIES THAT HAVE SERVICE ALREADY AND THEN THERE'S PROPERTIES THAT DON'T HAVE SERVICE.
AND, UM, ONE THING THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT ABOUT THE PROPERTIES THAT DON'T HAVE SERVICE IS SOMETIMES IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE A CAPACITY ISSUE AND THERE MAY BE A, A BIGGER COST TO GET WATER AND SEWER TO IT.
SO THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF QUALIFIER WITH IT.
I KNOW, BUT EVAN'S ON PLANNING, HE GETS PLANNING H HPC.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO, NOTHING TO DO WITH HPC BY THE WAY.
UM, YOU SPOKE A LOT ABOUT POPULATION GROWTH AND IN YOUR PLANNING, DO YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF, UM, PLANS FOR CLIMATE CHANGE OR ANY CLIMATE MODELING THAT YOU'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT, HOTTER SUMMERS, HEAVIER HURRICANES, THINGS LIKE THAT IN YOUR FUTURE PROJECTIONS? UM, WE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED THAT IN FUTURE PROJECTIONS AS FAR AS AS FLOWS.
UM, WE DO TRY TO PROMOTE IRRIGATION MANAGEMENT.
UM, AS FAR AS HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BIG ISSUE IS EVERYBODY IRRIGATION'S THE BIG PEAK DEMAND.
SO THAT'S NOT HAVING EVERYONE IRRIGATE ALL AT ONCE IS THE ISSUE.
SO WE WANNA TRY TO SPREAD, SPREAD THAT OUT.
SO IN THAT RESPECT, UM, WE DO CONSIDER IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LIKE HURRICANE PREP, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY, THAT'S TOTALLY NEW TO ME, BY THE WAY.
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UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE UTILITY ITSELF IS REALLY INVOLVED IN.
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UM, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU MORE, AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE AND LET EVERYONE GET TO KNOW WHO Y'ALL ARE.
SO STEVEN, WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? WHAT THE FOOD IS HERE? THE FOOD IS HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO EAT.
SO IF EVERYONE AROUND THE TABLE COULD GO, AND I'M SURE WE ALWAYS PROVIDE PLENTY, UM, LET THIS GROUP GO.
IF YOU WANT LUNCH OR IF YOU WANNA LEAVE.
WE'RE NOT HAVING A WORKING LUNCH ANYMORE, I'M GUESSING.
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WE HISTORIC PRESERVATION THEM.
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I AM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATIONIST FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
UM, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU BRAD SAS, WHO IS FROM THE STATE, THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, UM, OR SHIPPO, YOU'LL HEAR US USE THAT ACRONYM OFTEN.
UM, BUT BRAD DROVE DOWN FROM FROM CHAR FROM UH, COLUMBIA THIS MORNING TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE, UM, PRESERVATION PARTNERSHIP AND THE CLG PROGRAM WITHIN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA THAT BLUFFTON IS A PART OF.
UM, HEATHER, REMIND ME ALSO TO TELL YOU EVERYTHING THAT'S IN YOUR PACKETS UNDER THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION SECTION.
UM, YEAH, NUMBERS, LETTERS HARD FOR ME TODAY.
UM, SO IN THAT PACKET, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER ARE SOME SYNOPSES OF VARIOUS PAST HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS THAT THIS, UM, TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS UNDERTAKEN.
UM, THINGS LIKE THE RED DOT, THE GRAVES HOUSE, THE JOINER HOUSE.
UM, THERE'S A FEW OF THOSE IN THERE THAT GIVES YOU A BRIEF PROJECT OVERVIEW OF WHAT HAPPENED WHEN, HOW, WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
UM, IN THE PACKET IS ALSO, UM, THE CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES MAP, WHICH IS OUR LIST OF CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES WITHIN THE OLD TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, WHICH IS OUR LOCAL DISTRICT, AND ALSO INCLUDES OUR BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH ARE, WHICH IS OUR NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT FROM 1996.
UM, IN THAT PACKET, IT'S ALSO, AND I'M GONNA DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER EVERYTHING.
I INCLUDED, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT THE CLG PROGRAM, BOTH FROM THE STATE LEVEL AND ALSO, UH, A PAMPHLET FROM THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
UM, AND THEN, UM, IN OUR UDO, WE DO HAVE THINGS THAT GOVERN CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES.
I PRINTED OUT FOR YOU THAT PARTICULAR SECTION, UM, WHICH BECAME EFFECTIVE IN 2022.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S SOME SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS FROM WALTER BOROUGH ON BUILDING AND DESIGN, UM, DESIGN REQUIREMENTS, UM, AND OF COURSE ALL THAT I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS WITH YOU, UM, AS NEED BE.
BUT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO BRAD, UM, FOR THE CLG PRESENTATION AND JUST REMIND PEOPLE ACRONYMS, EVEN THOUGH SOME KNOW IT WHILE YOU'RE TALKING.
UH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS BRAD SAS.
I'M WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF ARCHIVES AND HISTORY.
UH, MORE SPECIFICALLY THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, UH, WHICH IS A DIVISION OF THE ARCHIVES.
UM, NUMBER ONE RULE OF PUBLIC SPEAKING, DON'T FOLLOW BARBECUE, BUT I'M GONNA TRY ANYWAY.
UH, WHAT I WANNA TALK WITH YOU ABOUT IS, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS ONE OF SEVERAL PROGRAMS WE WORK WITH.
UM, AND I'LL GIVE YOU KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF, OF THAT PROGRAM AND WHAT OUR OFFICE DOES AND, UH, THEN BE, BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I CAN.
AGAIN, WE'RE THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.
UH, YOU MIGHT HEAR US CALLED SHPO OR SHIPPO, OR MAYBE EVEN OTHER THINGS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE ARE PART OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF ARCHIVES AND HISTORY.
UH, THERE'S ABOUT 10 OF US IN OUR OFFICE IN COLUMBIA.
WE ARE THE, THE STATE LEVEL ADMINISTRATORS OF FEDERAL PROGRAM.
THE, THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.
YEAH, JUST KEEP YOU, YES, THANK YOU.
UM, WE ARE THE STATE ADMINISTRATOR, UH, FOR THE FEDERAL PROGRAM, THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.
THAT'S REALLY THE HUB OF THE WHEEL FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
UM, WE PROCESS NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS FOR SOUTH CAROLINA.
UH, WE ASSIST WITH HISTORIC PROPERTY SURVEYS, UH, THAT IS, UM, IDENTIFYING AND EVALUATING, UM, HISTORIC PROPERTIES, UH, REHAB, UH, TAX INCENTIVES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
I MANAGE A GRANT PROGRAM AMONG OTHER THINGS.
UM, AND WE CONSULT ON FEDERAL UNDERTAKINGS THAT AFFECT HISTORIC RESOURCES AND WE PROVIDE SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE FOR LOCAL PRESERVATION PROGRAMS. AGAIN, THE NATIONAL REGISTER IS OUR CORE PROGRAM AND THE NATIONAL REGISTER DOCUMENTS, PLACES THAT ARE WORTHY OF PRESERVATION AND INCENTIVIZES THEIR PRESERVATION AND MAKES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONSULT WITH US ABOUT EFFECTS OF THEIR ACTIVITIES ON HISTORIC PLACES.
SO WHAT THE NATIONAL REGISTER DOES
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NOT DO, IT DOES NOT PREVENT DEMOLITION.UH, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A HOUSE IN NEWBURY THAT WAS LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS REPLACED IN ITS ENTIRETY BY A DRUGSTORE.
THAT HOUSE IS NO LONGER WITH US.
THE NATIONAL REGISTER DOES NOT PREVENT RELOCATION OF HISTORIC PLACES.
THIS HOUSE DID SURVIVE BEING MOVED, BUT IT'S OFF OF ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION FOR A CHAIN STORE THAT THEN LATER CLOSED.
THE NATIONAL REGISTER DOES NOT PREVENT INAPPROPRIATE DESIGN CHOICES.
SO I'M SURE TAMMY'S PET SHACK DOES A GREAT JOB, BUT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PROBABLY THE BEST CHOICE FOR THAT HOUSE.
BUT THE NATIONAL REGISTER DOESN'T PREVENT THAT OR HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.
BUT LOCAL PRESERVATION REVIEW CAN DO ALL THESE THINGS POTENTIALLY IF YOU, UH, UM, CHOOSE TO AVAIL YOURSELF OF THE POWER THAT YOU HAVE UNDER THE, UM, STATE PLANNING AND ZONING LAWS.
SO LOCAL PRESERVATION ORDINANCES, HISTORIC OVERLAY ZONING, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
THAT ALL COMES AT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
AND YOU HAVE THAT THE ABILITY TO DO THOSE THINGS THAT THE NATIONAL REGISTER CAN'T DO, UM, WHEN YOU CHOOSE TO DO IT.
AND BLUFFING IS ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT, THAT HAS A LOCAL PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.
SO WATER CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
UM, THIS IS ESTABLISHED IN THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT, WHICH IS THE PROGRAM THAT THE ACT THAT CREATED THE NATIONAL REGISTER AND ALL OF ITS ASSOCIATED PROGRAMS. AND THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS CERTIFIED IN THE SENSE OF YOU HAVE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM THAT MEETS REQUIREMENTS.
AND IT IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THE STATE PRESERVATION OFFICES, AND THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE COG PROGRAM RECOGNIZES COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ESTABLISHED A LOCAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM.
THERE ARE MORE THAN 2000 RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY, INCLUDING 36 IN SOUTH CAROLINA, AND BLUFFTON BECAME ACOG IN 2001.
HERE'S ALL OF OUR CURRENT COMMUNITIES, UH, AS OF AS OF RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU'RE IN A BIG DISTINGUISHED GROUP IN, IN SOUTH CAROLINA TOWNS LARGE AND SMALL.
SO WHAT MAKES A LOCAL GOVERNMENT ACLG OR CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AGAIN, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT YOU ADOPT A PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, THAT YOU APPOINT A QUALIFIED BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
NOW, A BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW IS SORT OF THE GENERIC TERM.
THAT'S HOW IT'S REFERRED TO IN THE STATE EN ENABLING LEGISLATION IN THAT PART OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING ACT.
UM, BUT DIFFERENT LOCALITIES AND INCLUDING BLUFFTON, I BELIEVE CALL THEM DIFFERENT THINGS.
IT MIGHT BE IN ONE PLACE A HISTORIC, UH, PROPERTIES REVIEW COMMISSION.
IT MIGHT BE A COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD.
UM, THE NAMES VARY, BUT, BUT GENERICALLY, COLLECTIVELY, IT WOULD BE A, A BOARD OF ARC CHECKS REVIEW.
UM, YOU ALSO MAINTAIN AN INVENTORY OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES AND PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN THE, IN YOUR PRESERVATION PROGRAM.
SO THESE ARE ALL THE BASIC REQUIREMENTS, UM, THAT YOU NEED TO MEET IN ORDER TO BECOME A CERTIFIED LEVEL GOVERNMENT UNDER THIS PROGRAM.
SO, PRESERVATION ORDINANCE BEING ONE OF THE, THE MAIN THINGS YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE IN PLACE FIRST AND SO MUST HAVES FOR A GOOD PRESERVATION ORDINANCE.
YOU WANNA ADOPT AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS A CLEARLY STATED PURPOSE, AND YOU CITE THE AUTHORITY FOR THAT ORDINANCE, WHICH IS, UH, IN STATE CODE SECTION SIX DASH 29 8 70.
AND FOLLOWING, YOU NEED TO, THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO ESTABLISH A CRITERIA AND PROCESSES FOR DESIGNATING DISTRICTS AND LANDMARKS.
YOU ESTABLISH CRITERIA AND PROCESSES FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ALTERATION, DEMOLITION, RELOCATION OF DESIGNATED LANDMARKS AND PROPERTIES IN YOUR DISTRICTS AND NEW CONSTRUCTION WITHIN DESIGNATED DISTRICTS.
YOU NEED TO HAVE OUTLINED IN YOUR ORDINANCE PROCEDURES FOR ENFORCING DECISIONS BY YOUR LOCAL BOARD AND HAVING A PROCESS.
UH, AND AND FOR THE RIGHT OF APPEAL FOR, FOR PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY HAVE DUE PROCESS TO APPEAL DECISIONS.
YOUR BOARD OF ARCHITECTS REVIEW, OR WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO CALL IT IN, IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THERE'S SOME MUST HAVES FOR THAT, THAT BOARD OR COMMISSION AT LEAST FIVE OR NOT MORE THAN THE 10 MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNING BODY.
KEEP YOUR RESUMES ON FILE FOR PUBLIC, UH, INSPECTION.
YOU WANNA APPOINT MEMBERS WITH A DEMONSTRATED INTEREST COMPETENCE OR, OR KNOWLEDGE IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND HAVE ONE OR MORE PROFESSIONALS IN VARIOUS RELATED, UH, FIELDS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ONE FROM EVERY COLUMN OR, OR EVERY, HAVE EVERY DISCIPLINE REPRESENTED.
BUT THESE ARE AMONG THE GROUPS OF, OF DISCIPLINES THAT YOU WANT TO, WHENEVER POSSIBLE, TRY TO HAVE THOSE REPRESENTED ON THEIR BOARD.
WHETHER IT'S ARCHITECTURE, HISTORY, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT PLANNING, ARCHEOLOGY, UH, CULTURAL ANTHROPOLOGY, ANYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH WITH HISTORY AND PRESERVATION.
IT CAN ALSO INCLUDE, UH, REAL ESTATE ENGINEERING LAW.
THOSE ARE ALL, UH, DISCIPLINES THAT ARE FREQUENTLY REPRESENTED ON THESE BOARD AS WELL.
AND YOU WANT TO, UM, DOCUMENT AS PART OF YOUR APPOINTING MEMBERS AND, AND KEEPING YOUR YOUR BOARD, UH, WITH MEMBERS, KEEPING 'EM CURRENT.
YOU WANNA HAVE A REASONABLE EFFORT DOCUMENTED TO OBTAIN PROFESSIONAL EX EXPERTISE, HOWEVER YOU CAN TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S AVAILABLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
UH, THE STATE REGS FOR THE PROGRAM
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ALSO SAY YOU NEED TO BE MEETING AT LEAST THREE TIMES A YEAR AND THEN COMPLETE YOUR COMMISSION'S WORK IN A TIMELY FASHION AND ATTEND INFORMATION OR EDUCATIONAL MEETINGS RELATED TO COMMISSION'S WORK.JUST LIKE MEMBERS OF PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDS AND, AND OTHER BOARDS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE CERTAIN CONTINUING EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AND THAT'S A BIT OF A CHALLENGE SOMETIMES FOR THE LOCAL PRESERVATION BOARDS.
IT'S HARDER TO FIND RELEVANT, UM, TRAINING AND CONTINUING ED OPPORTUNITIES.
SO WE TRY TO PROVIDE THAT AT OUR ANNUAL PRESERVATION CONFERENCE.
AND ALSO, UM, HELP FUNDING FOR, UM, OTHER EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO, UM, PRESERVATION, LOCAL PRESERVATION BOARDS.
AND SO A A, A GOOD CERTIFIED COMMISSION'S RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD INCLUDE EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT YOUR HISTORIC RESOURCES, REVIEWING AND MAKING DECISIONS ON YOUR LOCALLY DESIGNATED PROPERTIES.
AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW NATIONAL REGISTERED NOMINATIONS THAT ARE COMING, UH, THROUGH OUR OFFICE.
MAKE AN ANNUAL REPORT TO OUR OFFICE ABOUT YOUR ACTIVITIES EACH YEAR.
UM, HAVE GOOD BYLAWS AND RULES OF PROCEDURE AND AVOID CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULD APPLY TO, TO MOST ANY OTHER, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
ANOTHER KEY TO THE THE CLG STATUS IS MAINTAINING AN INVENTORY OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
SO YOU CAN COORDINATE WITH OUR OFFICE, THE SHIPPO, TO RECORD HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
UM, WE CAN AND DO PROVIDE TECHNICAL GUIDANCE ON HOW TO DO THAT AND FUNDING SUPPORT, UH, FOR LOCAL INVENTORIES.
'CAUSE IT'S, UH, IT'S ALSO USEFUL FOR US TO, WHENEVER WE FUND LOCAL SURVEYS, WE, WE GET THAT DATA TOO.
AND THAT HELPS US WITH OPERATING OUR, OUR PROGRAMS SO WE CAN, UM, PROVIDE DATA FOR THE LOCAL LEVEL AND FOR US, GET IT ALL, GET TWO THINGS IN ONE WITH FUNDING SURVEYS.
YOU WANNA MAINTAIN AN INVENTORY OF THE LOCALLY DESIGNATED PROPERTIES AND DISTRICTS UPDATE AND, AND ADD DATA TO THAT INVENTORY AS NEEDED, AND MAKE YOUR INVENTORY DATA AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
AGAIN, OPEN MEETINGS AND DUE PROCESS, JUST LIKE WITH ANY OTHER BOARD OR COMMISSION THAT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS, YOU WANT TO BE SURE THOSE MEETINGS ARE POSTED, UH, 24 HOURS AT VATS.
KEEP ACCURATE AND COMPLETE MINUTES.
THAT'S KEY BECAUSE IF, UM, YOU KNOW, A DECISION MADE BY A BOARD IS APPEALED, THEN THAT'S PART OF THE RECORD THAT GOES, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THAT APPEALS PROCESS WITH CIRCUIT COURT AND THROUGH THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MITIGATION, UH, PRE-LITIGATION PROCESS THAT'S REQUIRED.
SO THAT, THAT RECORD WILL BE, BE KEY IN WHETHER A A DECISION IS DETERMINED, DEFENSIBLE OR NOT, OR WHETHER A DECISION IS GONNA STAND OR NOT.
AND SO YOU WANNA HAVE GOOD DOCUMENTATION THERE AND HAVE THE REASONS FOR THE, THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS IN PUBLIC AND HAVE YOUR BYLAWS AND PROCEDURE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.
AND AGAIN, PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC AND THE MEDIA ABOUT YOUR PRESERVATION PROCESS, ALL YOUR PROGRAM, UM, AND, AND BEING SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE DOING, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BOARDS YOU WOULD HAVE.
SO WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF COG STATUS? UM, JUST LIKE THE NATIONAL REGISTER, IT'S PRIMARILY A, IT'S AN HONORIFIC DESIGNATION, BUT THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS THAT GO WITH THAT.
UM, OUR OFFICE, WE GET FUNDING EACH YEAR FROM THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
ALL THE STATE PRESERVATION OFFICES GET FUNDING FROM THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE TO HELP OPERATE THE OFFICE.
'CAUSE WE'RE MANAGING THOSE FEDERAL PROGRAMS, BUT WE'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO ALLOCATE A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE FUNDS EACH YEAR TO PROJECTS IN THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
SO NOT EVERY CLG NECESSARILY GETS A GRANT EVERY YEAR, BUT CGS ARE OUR FIRST PRIORITY FOR, UH, FUNDING THROUGH OUR, OUR FEDERAL GRANT.
SO WE WANNA BE SURE WE MEET THAT OBLIGATION.
SO WHENEVER WE, WE ANNUALLY HAVE A, A FEDERAL GRANT CYCLE.
UM, AND SO OUR, OUR FIRST PRIORITY IS TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, ALLOCATING AT LEAST THE MINIMUM, UH, FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE CGS.
AND SO THOSE FUNDS MAY BE USED FOR STABILIZATION PROJECTS, PLANNING PROJECTS.
UM, IT CAN BE PLANNING PROJECTS FOR INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS OR FOR, UM, SURVEYS OF, OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES, UH, DOING DESIGN GUIDELINES OR UPDATES, FEASIBILITY STUDIES AND CG TRAINING.
SO FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR, OUR MINIMUM WAS 103,000.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAD MINIMUM TO, TO SPEND, UM, AROUND THE STATE.
AND THOSE, AND ALL THOSE GRANTS ARE MATCHED DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR BY THE, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR WHOEVER IS THE, THE APPLICANT.
AND COTS MAY ALSO DESIGNATE THIRD PARTY RECIPIENTS, UM, TO DO STABILIZATION PROJECTS.
SO WE ONLY OFFER FEDERAL GRANTS TO DO STABILIZATION OR BRICKS AND BRICKS AND MORTAR PROJECTS, UM, IN THE CGS.
SO WHETHER IT'S THE CLDS PROJECT OR IT COULD BE A, A NONPROFIT OR OTHER, UM, INSTITUTION OR ENTITY WITHIN THE CITY, THEN THE CL G CAN BASICALLY DESIGNATE THEM AS A RECIPIENT AND THEN THAT RECIPIENT CAN BE IN CHARGE OF MANAGING THE GRANT.
BUT IT MAKES, EXTENDS THE AVAILABILITY OF THOSE FUNDS FOR DOING STABILIZATION.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF PAST COG GRANTS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON WITH BLUFFTON, UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, HAD THE HAYWARD HOUSE, A STABILIZATION PROJECT IN 2004.
UM, WE'VE WORKED ON A PRESERVATION PLAN FOR THE, THE GARVIN HOUSE.
UM, CAME BACK TO HAYWARD HOUSE AGAIN IN 2011
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FOR REPAIRS ON, ON THE ROOF.AND THEN A PROJECT I THINK EVERYBODY'S REALLY PROUD OF IS THE GARVIN HOUSE STABILIZATION PROJECT.
THAT WAS TWO SUCCESSIVE GRANTS IN 1516.
UM, THAT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL.
AND THEN MOST RECENTLY IN 2018, UM, A CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT FOR THE SQUIRE POPE CARRIAGE HOUSE, UH, PROPERTY IN THE DISTRICT.
THE, UH, THE FUNDING THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, MM-HMM,
WE HAVE A A COM, AN ANNUAL, YOU KNOW, COMPETITIVE CYCLE TO APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS.
AND THEN WHEN WE AWARD PROJECTS FOR FUNDING, UM, THEN WE, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH YOU TO ADMINISTER THOSE PROJECTS.
AND THEN WE PAY OUT THE FUNDS AS A REIMBURSEMENT, UM, AS THE PROJECT GOES ALONG.
SO THE RE RECIPIENT PAYS A HUNDRED PERCENT COST INITIALLY, AND THEN WE REIMBURSE FOR 50%.
AND THEN THAT CAN BE SPREAD OUT OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT FOR ONE REIMBURSEMENT AT THE END, WHATEVER ITS NEEDS FOR THE CASH FLOW PURPOSES OF THE PROJECT.
UM, YEAH, THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS.
SO, OTHER BENEFITS OF THE CLG STATUS? AGAIN, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR NETWORKING AND TRAINING AND INFORMATION SHARING WITH THE OTHER CGS.
UM, WE TRY TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, IT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT HARDER DURING COVID HAD TO GET MORE, UH, CREATIVE AND JUST BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIMITED RESOURCES.
BUT WE DO OFFER, UM, SESSIONS AT OUR ANNUAL STATE STORE PRESERVATION OFFICE THAT, UM, MEMBERS OF LOCAL BOARDS CAN GET.
WE ARE AN APPROVED PROVIDER, UH, BY THE, THE SOUTH CAROLINA, UM, PLANNING EDUCATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SO IF YOU NEED CONTINUING ED CREDITS AND YOU'RE ON THESE LOCAL, THE LOCAL PRESERVATION BOARD, COME ATTEND OUR SESSIONS AT THE PRESERVATION CONFERENCE.
UM, AND, AND GET AN HOUR OF CREDIT FOR EACH OF YOUR SESSIONS.
YOU CAN KNOCK OUT YOUR ANNUAL TRAINING REQUIREMENT BY COMING TO OUR, OUR CONFERENCE.
UM, WE ALSO PROVIDE, UH, TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE OF PRESERVATION COMMISSIONS, WHICH IS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS, UH, LOCAL PRESERVATION BOARDS.
UM, AND WE WORK WITH THEM A LOT, UH, TO PROVIDE TRAINING, UM, FOR THE, THE LOCAL BOARDS.
AND WE'VE HAD SOME ONLINE AND IN-PERSON TRAINING IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING MORE OF THAT 'CAUSE IT'S A, A VERY EFFICIENT WAY TO, TO GET TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.
UM, CO DS ALSO HAVE A, A FORMAL OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON NEW NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY AS THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UM, AGAIN, A A SORT OF PRIORITIZE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE WHENEVER WE DO OUR STATEWIDE PRESERVATION PLAN.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO NOTIFY, UH, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ON, ON TAX CREDIT PROJECTS, APPLICATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THEIR AREA, RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE THE CLG STATUS.
UM, WE DO ASK FOR AN ANNUAL REPORT, UM, EACH YEAR FROM THE, THE CGS TO HELP KEEP US UP TO DATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUR PROGRAM.
STATISTICS ON, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY APPLICATIONS YOU'RE REVIEWING, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUR PROGRAM, ANY CHANGES OR UPDATES TO YOUR ORDINANCE, UM, WHAT'S YOUR CURRENT BOARD COMPOSITION, THAT SORT OF THING.
JUST SHOWING US HOW YOU'RE SORT OF TAKING THE TEMPERATURE OF YOUR PROGRAM, UH, FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO DO, YOU KNOW, PERIODIC EVALUATIONS OF THE CDS LARGELY BASED ON THOSE ANNUAL REPORTS.
UM, BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, YOU HAVE ABOUT, UH, THE CLG PROGRAM OR ANY OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE WORK WITH.
I, I'LL LET COUNCIL ASK QUESTIONS AND WE MAY HAVE SOME IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE WE DID WITH OTHER PRESENTATIONS TO ASK, UM, KIND OF START HERE.
YOU GOT A NEW GUEST? YOU GOT NEW GUEST IF YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE.
NEW GUESTS THAT HAVEN'T STOOD UP AND SAID WHO YOU ARE, ARE REQUIRED TO STAND UP AND SAY WHO YOU'RE ROBERT.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HISTORICAL CLUB FOUNDATION.
I, UH, RUN CONNECTICUT HOUSE HISTORIES AND HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH ON THE CAMPBELL CHAPEL, AME CHURCH, UH, IN THE GARVIN HOUSE, AND, UM, AND PRESENTLY WORKING ON ANOTHER PROJECT HERE IN BLUFFTON.
I'M A RESIDENT OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I'VE SPOKEN WITH YOU BEFORE AND I GUESS YOU COULD CALL ME THE TOWN PRESERVATION POLICEMAN.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE MISS CARRIE, WHO'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
CARRIE, YOU NEED TO TELL EVERYBODY WHO YOU ARE AND I THINK WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY.
I'M THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ADMINISTRATOR.
I USED TO THE VERY BEGINNING YOU HAD TO STAND UP AND, AND ASK ONE THING, LIKE ONE THING YOU'RE PROUD OF OR ONE THING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE US ADDRESS.
SO, UM, WITH YOUR ADMINISTRATION WITH CLG, HAVE YOU ALL GIVEN CONSIDERATIONS, UM, ON HOW MUNICIPALITIES CAN AID WITH THOSE WHO MAJORITY OWN
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CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES NOW BEING, UM, RESIDENTS, MANY OF WHOM MAY NOT HAVE THE FINANCES TO RESTORE AND REPAIR, UM, WHAT'S CONSIDERED HISTORIC? LIKE, IS THERE A, A UNIFIED MAYBE, UM, IDEA ON HOW TO HELP MANAGE OR EVEN MITIGATE SOME OF THAT? I, I KNOW THERE IS DEMAND.I GET CALLS EVERY DAY FOLKS LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, GRANT ASSISTANCE TO HELP WITH PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC HOMES.
I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, SOURCES ANYWHERE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY THING THAT WE MANAGE DIRECTLY THAT, THAT CAN BE OF HELP FOR, UM, RESIDENTIAL HISTORIC PROPERTIES IS IN THE FORM OF A STATE INCOME TAX CREDIT.
SO, I MEAN, AND, AND I KNOW THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, NEARLY ALL OF THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS OUT THERE, BUT IT'S THE BEST THING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AT THE MOMENT.
BUT I KNOW THAT THAT DOESN'T MEET THE DEMAND THAT THERE IS FOR, UM, ASSISTANCE ON, UH, PRESERVING HISTORIC HOMES.
BUT THE, THE STATE TAX CREDIT IS ONE THING THAT WE DO HAVE IT.
UM, FOR QUALIFYING PROPERTIES, IT'S A 25%, UM, CREDIT, 25% OF YOUR APPROVED REHAB EXPENSES YOU GET TO CLAIM IS A STATE INCOME TAX CREDIT.
SO, BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE STATE INCOME TAX LIABILITY YEAR TO YEAR FOR IT TO DO YOU ANY GOOD.
BUT, UM, BUT IT'S A, WE HAVE A GOOD BIT OF, UH, APPLICATIONS ON THAT, THAT PROGRAM EVERY YEAR, BUT IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T ADDRESS ALL THE DEMAND THAT'S, THAT'S OUT THERE.
UM, MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A MODEL THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE FOR A TOWN LIKE OURS THAT CUTS OUT THAT'S FACTUAL? THERE'S NO GRAY AREAS THAT CAN BE TAKEN.
TWO DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT TWEAK OR WHATEVER TO, TO BETTER HELP SERVE OUR, UM, OUR STRUCTURES BECAUSE OUR, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS VERY CONFUSING AND IT'S HARD FOR THE OWNER TO, TO UNDERSTAND MUCH LESS STAFF FOR THE REST OF THE PEOPLE AND WHAT YOU CAN DO, WHAT YOU CAN'T DO.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M, WELL, LOCAL PRESERVATION ORDINANCES, I KNOW BY FREQUENTLY WHEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE PASSED, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC GUIDELINES IN THEM.
THEY MAY SAY AT THE TIME OR ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR'S STANDARDS FOR, YOU KNOW, TREATMENT OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES WOULD BE THE STANDARD THAT WE EVALUATE APPLICATIONS BY.
AND THAT CERTAINLY IS A, A GOLD STANDARD FOR REVIEW OF PRESERVATION PROJECTS.
UM, WE'RE REQUIRED TO REVIEW PROJECTS WHEN WE REVIEW TAX INCENTIVES OR GRANT FUNDED THINGS.
THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR'S STANDARDS ARE SORT OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE WIDELY ACCEPTED STANDARD.
AND THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED, YOU KNOW, FOR US ON OUR, UH, FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAMS. UM, AND A LOT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WILL ADOPT THAT, UM, AS A, AS A BASIS.
BUT I MEAN, THEY ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, SORT OF BROADLY WORDED STATEMENTS.
AND, AND SO A LOT OF GOVERNMENTS WILL THEN CHOOSE TO GO FURTHER THAN THAT TO ADOPT MORE SPECIFIC DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT, THAT ARE SORT OF AN, AN EXPANSION OF THOSE, UM, SECRETARY STANDARDS.
UM, AND THEN, AND WE HAVE FUNDED THOSE, UH, PROJECTS WITH GRANT FUNDS IN THE PAST.
SO WHERE THAT'S A AND GOING THROUGH A, YOU KNOW, A PUBLIC OPEN INFORMATION PROCESS TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S, IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE PUBLIC TO LET'S ALL AGREE ON WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE ABOUT WHETHER YOU'RE DEALING WITH, WITH WINDOWS AND SIDING AND ROOFS.
AND YOU CAN GET INTO MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT SORTS OF MATERIALS OR CHANGES ARE ENCOURAGED, WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE, WHAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
AND SO THE CLEARER THOSE DESIGN GUIDELINES ARE, THE EASIER IT IS TO MAKE, UH, WHAT IS VERY KEYWORD IS DEFENSIBLE DECISIONS.
YOU WANT TO HAVE A BOARD MAKE DECISIONS THAT CAN STAND UP IF THERE'S AN APPEAL, BUT ALSO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AVOIDING, UM, BEING ARBITRARY AND WANNA HAVE YOU WANT THOSE, HAVING THOSE KIND OF GUIDELINES CAN HELP MAKE THE, YOU WANNA MAKE THAT, UM, REVIEW PROCESS AS PREDICTABLE AS POSSIBLE SO THAT FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE TABLE, EVERYBODY COMING IN REALLY SHOULD, SHOULDN'T BE MUCH OF A MYSTERY ABOUT WHAT THE OUTCOME IS, IS GONNA BE.
UM, SO HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE MORE SPECIFIC DESIGN STANDARDS YOU, YOU CAN GET, BUT, AND THOSE CAN VARY FROM COMMUNITY TO COMMUNITY, AND IT'S KIND OF WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR LEVEL OF TOLERANCE IN A GIVEN COMMUNITY FOR WHATEVER THE, THE BUILDING ISSUE IS.
BUT, UM, BUT GUIDE GUIDELINES ARE ONE WAY TO DO THAT.
BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY, AND I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, CODIFIED IS, IS LAW, BUT IT'S SOMETHING YOU GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND ESTABLISH THEM AND YOU WANT TO USE 'EM, BUT THEY'RE STILL SORT OF LIKE ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION YOU HAVE AT YOUR FINGERTIPS, SORT OF ADVISORY TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSION MAKING A, A, YOU KNOW, A, A SOUND JUSTIFIABLE DECISION ON, ON APPROVING OR, OR DENYING AN APPLICATION.
I'LL END THAT, BUT I'LL, FRED, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS STATEMENT? WE ARE CHALLENGED WITH TRYING TO PRESERVE WHAT WE THINK IS, UH, A HISTORICAL STRUCTURE IN OUR DIS IN OUR HISTORICAL DISTRICT.
AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES
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THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS, NOT THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO BRING THAT UP TO CURRENT STANDARD OR, UH, UH, WHAT OUR ZONE WOULD, WOULD, WOULD REQUEST AND NO FUNDING, UM, FROM THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL ANYWHERE MAKES THAT EVEN MORE COMPETITIVE OR CHALLENGING.AND IF WE WANT TO BE, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF MAINTAINING OUR CULTURE OR OUR HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE, THERE'S, IT'S HARD FOR THE, FOR US TO MANDATE THAT THEY DO THE NECESSARY REPAIRS WITHOUT ALSO HAVING A, SOME TYPE OF FUNDING MECHANISM TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO IT JUST A STATEMENT THAT MAYBE SOMETIMES AROUND THE BOARD TABLE, UM, THEY CAN TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE KIND OF CONCERNS.
YEAH, I MEAN, IF WE HAD, YOU KNOW, EXPONENTIALLY MORE FUNDS THAN WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US, WE COULD PROBABLY DO A LOT OF, WE COULD KEEP, YOU KNOW, HALF A DOZEN OR MORE STAFF BUSY TRYING TO DO PROJECTS FOR INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS AND OTHER, UM, PROPERTIES AROUND THE STATE BECAUSE THE, THE DEMAND CERTAINLY STATEWIDE FAR OUT EXCEEDS, YOU KNOW, THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
UM, WE'VE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST GOTTEN, UH, A NEW STATE LEVEL, UH, STATE FUNDING SOURCE DEDICATED FOR STABILIZATION PROJECTS THAT WE HAD NOT HAD, UH, IT'S BEEN OVER 20 YEARS SINCE WE LAST HAD A, A STATE FUNDING PRESERVATION GRANT PROGRAM.
BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE RELATIVELY LIMITED AMOUNT OF THOSE FUNDS, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT BASICALLY A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE CAN SPREAD OUT AS FAR AS WE CAN STATEWIDE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE FOCUS ON NONPROFIT ENTITIES AND, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO DO, FOR PROJECTS TO HAVE THE, THE BROADEST PUBLIC BENEFIT AND PRODUCT BROADEST PUBLIC IMPACT THAT WE CAN, UM, IF, IF WE OPEN IT UP TO, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS OR OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD BE, THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD MEET EVEN A, A FRACTION OF THAT DEMAND.
UM, AND THE, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, TAX INCENTIVES THAT CAN HELP WITH, UM, SOME PROJECTS, CERTAINLY NOT ALL INDIVIDUAL ONES, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE HOMEOWNERS, UH, STATE TAX CREDIT AND THERE'S A FEDERAL PLUS STATE FOR INCOME PRODUCING PROPERTIES.
AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S JUST A, YOU KNOW, JUST GONNA DROP IN THE BUCKET ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE OUT THERE.
AND IT TAKES, UM, A LOT MORE RESOURCES THAN, THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT AVAILABLE.
SO I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO, TO PUSH FOR TRYING TO GET A BIGGER SLICE OF THE, THE PIE OF THINGS OUT THERE TO HAVE RESOURCE MORE RESOURCES DEDICATED TO, TO PRESERVATION.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMPETING WITH A LOT OF OTHER, UM, VITAL AND ESSENTIAL NEEDS OUT THERE TOO.
WOULD YOU HAD A QUESTION, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK? YES.
I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW ALL OF THIS.
SO IF I SUMMARIZE AND, AND IF I HAVE IT CORRECTLY, UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE THE FEDERAL STANDARD, YOU HAVE THE STATE STANDARD, YOU MAKE THE CGS POSSIBLE, BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE CGS ARE BASED ON THE COMMUNITY NEEDS AS FAR AS HOW THEY DEFINE ACLG WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU AT THE STATE LEVEL DO.
THERE'S BROAD, THERE'S BROAD LEEWAY THERE, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, SPECIFICALLY THE CLG, I MEAN, IT'S A FEDERAL PROGRAM AND WE ADMINISTER IT AT THE STATE LEVEL.
AND WE, UM, YOU KNOW, PROCESS APPLICATIONS FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO BECOME PART OF THE PROGRAM.
NOT EVERY, UM, COMMUNITY THAT HAS A PRESERVATION ORDINANCE IN SOUTH CAROLINA IS PART OF THE PROGRAM.
'CAUSE THEY EITHER HAVEN'T APPLIED OR THEY MAY BE MISSING ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS.
UM, SO I MEAN, THERE IS, IT IS A, A FEDERAL LEVEL OF STANDARDS AND THERE ARE STATE LEVEL REGULATIONS FOR THE PROGRAM.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DO THE BEST WE CAN TO BE SURE THAT, THAT ALL THE, UM, GOVERNMENTS THAT HAVE JOINED THAT PROGRAM TRY TO STAY ON THAT, THAT THAT TRACK.
UM, BUT IT'S, UH, WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MAYBE HAVE MORE LEEWAY IS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DECIDE WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA DEAL WITH DEMOLITION OR NOT, OR YOU CAN OR DECIDE WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA, UM, GIVE YOURSELVES THE ABILITY TO DENY DEMOLITION OR NOT, OR, OR WHAT, JUST WHAT LEVEL OF, UH, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS ARE GONNA NEED REVIEW.
I MEAN, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, UH, WHERE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO DECIDE ARE THEY GONNA, UM, HAVE CERTAIN PROJECTS, MAYBE CAN BE REVIEWED AT THE STAFF LEVEL AND DON'T HAVE TO GO TO BOARD.
I MEAN, THOSE THINGS THAT ARE, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS VARY FROM COMMUNITY TO COMMUNITY.
IN TERMS OF HOW YOU IMPLEMENT YOUR PROGRAM ON THE LIST OF CGS PROVIDED AS THE STATE EVER REMOVED THAT QUALIFICATION? NOT IN MY 25 YEARS, NO.
I HEAR THAT CONCERN SOMETIMES.
UM, SO IF THERE WAS SOMETHING IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS ACLG, UM, IT WOULD PROBABLY, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD GO ABOUT ASKING.
I GUESS WE WOULD GET, YOU GET AN OPINION FROM THE STATE TO SEE IF YOU'RE GETTING OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF ACLG DESIGNATION, OR IS IT NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL? I MEAN, WE ARE ON CALL IS A RESOURCE.
IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS OR IF YOU'RE HAVING PROBLEMS
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OR, OR CHALLENGES WITH HOW YOU'RE MANAGING THE PROGRAM OR IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ANY DIFFICULTIES WITH IT, WE CAN TRY TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON HOW TO MAKE THAT, MAKE CORRECTIONS, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT YOUR PROGRAM RUNS BETTER.UM, YOU KNOW, DE-CERTIFICATION IS A THING THAT CAN HAPPEN, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN, IN, IN DOING.
IT'S, IT'S WAY DOWN ON THE LIST OF THINGS.
UM, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO BEFORE THAT, BEFORE WE GET TO DECERTIFICATION IS IT'S GONNA BE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO WORK WITH YOU TO FIGURE OUT, ALL RIGHT, IF THERE'S A, A CHALLENGE OR AN ISSUE, HOW CAN YOU FIX IT? HOW CAN YOU MAKE IT BETTER? UM, AND, AND DO EVERYTHING YOU POSSIBLY CAN THAT DECERTIFICATION IS A, A ABSOLUTE LAST RESORT ON ITS NUMBER 115 ON A LIST OF 115 THINGS TO TRY TO DO BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT POINT.
AND I WAS GONNA FOLLOW UP ON THAT 'CAUSE THAT'S, I'VE HEARD THAT TOO.
AND I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IT OCCURRED WAY BEFORE I MOVED HERE, BUT, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE IF THERE WAS SOME COMPLAINT FROM ANYWHERE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH AND SAY, Y'ALL MIGHT BE VIOLATING THE TERMS OF OUR CLG, BUT YOU'RE NOT JUST GONNA WRITE US A LETTER AND SAY, WE'RE NO LONGER ACLG.
YOU'RE GONNA TRY TO SIT WITH US AND HAVE A VERY OPEN DIALOGUE ABOUT WHAT THAT ISSUE MAY BE.
I MEAN, ONCE SOMEBODY'S IN THE PROGRAM, WE WANT TO KEEP 'EM THERE.
AND WE WANT TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM EVEN, BUT NOT LOOKING TO, TO, YOU KNOW, SO KICK ANYBODY OUT.
RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE A, THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE ANY SORT OF REVIEW ROLE OVER ANYTHING IS EXTREMELY LIMITED AND SPECIFIC.
WE REVIEW FEDERAL UNDERTAKINGS THAT MIGHT AFFECT PROPERTIES LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER.
THAT'S REQUIRED UNDER THE, THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT.
FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE REQUIRED TO CONSULT WITH THE STATE PRESERVATION OFFICE WHEN THEY'RE UNDERTAKING.
AND THAT CAN BE FEDERAL FUNDING, FEDERAL LICENSES, FEDERAL PERMITS, ANYTHING BASICALLY THAT HAS A FEDERAL CONNECTION TO IT.
THEN THERE, AS PART OF ALL THE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY DO, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO COME TO US TO DETERMINE OUR PROPERTIES BE IN THE, THE AREA OF EFFECT TO THEIR PROJECT.
IS THERE GONNA BE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR NOT? IF IT'S AN ADVERSE, WE WORK WITH 'EM THERE, CAN IT BE AVOIDED? IF IT CAN'T BE, THEN THEY'VE GOTTA MITIGATE IT SOME WAY.
SO EVEN THEN, SOMETIMES EVEN THOUGH THAT CONSULTATION PROCESS IS IN PLACE, IT STILL DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT A, A RESOURCE WON'T BE LOST OR, OR DAMAGED.
UM, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE A ROLE IS IF A PROPERTY OWNER JUST DECIDES THEY WANNA DEMOLISH SOMETHING THAT'S LISTED IN THE REGISTER, OR IF THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A, A LOCAL PROCESS AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, GRANTS THEM PERMISSION TO DEMO SOMETHING.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY OVERSIGHT OF THAT.
SO A LOCAL, SO IT LIES ON US LOCALLY TO DETERMINE IF, AND I'VE ALWAYS CALLED IT A STRUCTURE.
SO THIS WHOLE NEW TERM RESOURCE IS NEW TO ME, BUT I'M TRYING TO SAY IT.
SO A RESOURCE EQUATES TO A STRUCTURE.
SO A RESOURCE, IF OUR HPC, WHICH IS OUR REVIEW BOARD SAYS, YES, YOU CAN MOVE IT, THAT, AND WE WOULD STILL CALL IT A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE, THEN THAT'S UP TO US TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, NOT YOU.
AND CONTRIBUTING IT'S, IT MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT.
SO IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, PARTICULARLY IN A DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, WE, AS PART OF THAT NOMINATION PROCESS, WILL, YOU KNOW, MAKE A, UM, DETERMINATION AT THE TIME A NOMINATION IS GOING THROUGH ABOUT WHAT CONTRIBUTES OR DOESN'T TO THE NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT.
UM, BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT A LOCAL DESIGNATION PROCESS, SOMETIMES THE LOCAL DESIGNATION AND NATIONAL DESIGNATION MAY OVERLAP ON THE SAME PLOT ON THE EARTH.
BUT THE HOW YOU GO THROUGH THAT DESIGNATION PROCESS AND, AND WHAT'S DETERMINE CONTRIBUTING OR NOT.
IT, IT DEPENDS ON, WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOCAL PROGRAM OR A NATIONAL REGISTER PROGRAM, SO RIGHT.
YOU MIGHT SAY SOMETHING CONTRIBUTES TO YOUR LOCAL DISTRICT, BUT IT, IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY CONTRIBUTE TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT ANYMORE.
BUT WE DON'T, IT, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, DAILY MONITOR NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS.
WE ONLY, YOU KNOW, THAT CONTRIBUTING STATUS IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER IS, IS SORT OF ADVISORY UNTIL, AND, AND IT ONLY WOULD CHANGE IF WE HAD SOME REASON TO REVIEW IT.
IF SOMEBODY'S APPLYING FOR A TAX INCENTIVE OR A GRANT OR THERE'S A FEDERAL PROJECT THAT MIGHT AFFECT IT, THEN WE MIGHT HAVE A CAUSE TO, TO EVALUATE OR REEVALUATE SOMETHING.
BUT, UM, WE'RE ONLY DEALING WITH THAT CONTRIBUTING OR NON-CONTRIBUTING STATUS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE NATIONAL REGISTER AND ITS ASSOCIATED PROGRAMS. OKAY.
UM, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, CAN YOU HAVE THEIR OWN DESIGNATION PROCESS THAT MAY MIRROR THE NATIONAL REGISTER VERY CLOSELY, OR IT MAY, YOU KNOW, GO A LITTLE BIT BROADER FROM THAT.
THAT'S UP TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO DETERMINE THAT.
BUT WE'RE ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.
WE, WE, WE'VE GOT TWO NATIONALLY REGISTERED BUILDINGS.
WE'VE THE CURRENT CHURCH OF THE CROSS, THE BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT.
WHO'S THE THIRD ONE? ROSEVILLE MANSIONS NOW ON
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THERE TOO.I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT IN BLUFFTON.
SO IN, IN BLUFFTON WE HAVE THE BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT NATIONAL REGISTER LISTED 1996 MM-HMM.
WE HAVE TWO, UM, INDIVIDUALLY LISTED, UM, ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER CHURCH OF THE CROSS, 1975, AND CAMPBELL CHAPEL, AME FROM 2019.
THAT'S WHERE I I IT'S JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE LITTLE SMALL DISTRICT AND THEN WE HAVE THE OTHER.
I GUESS I JUST, AND I LOVE THAT SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS ARE HERE, AND I'M GONNA LET SEE IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS.
BUT MY CONCERN THAT I'VE HEARD, AND I JUST WANNA CLEAR IT UP, AND I POOR HEATHER, I ASK HER ALL THE TIME, BUT YOU'RE HERE NOW 'CAUSE THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED.
WHAT THREATENS OUR LOSS OF ACLG? IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DON'T WANT US TO BE, YOU DON'T WANNA LOSE US.
WHAT THREATENS THE STATUS OF A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE? IF WE MOVE IT, IF WE DISASSEMBLE IT, IF, IF IT BUILDS A NEW SYSTEM, NEW CONSTRUCTION, IF IT'S TORN DOWN AND IT'S BUILT AS NEW CONSTRUCTION, IT'S UP TO THE LOCAL, IT'S US DECIDING IF THAT STILL IS CONTRIBUTING YOU WOULD NOT MAKE TO YOUR LOCAL DISTRICT.
WE WOULD BE MAKING A CALL OR EVALUATIONS ABOUT CONTRIBUTING OR NON-CONTRIBUTING TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER LISTED DISTRICT.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, THAT LIST, THEY OVERLAP EACH OTHER, BUT THERE'S DIFFERENT PROCESSES GOING ON.
AND THEN YOU, ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES, IT SAYS INVENTORY DATA, AND THAT'S NOT JUST A LIST, THE 87 NAMES OF ADDRESSES, THAT'S ALL THE, THE RESOURCE DATA THAT GOES WITH IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO HOUSE.
SO THE, THE DIFFERENT, THE INVENTORY THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT ON HIS SLIDE IS THIS, THIS IS THE 2019 OKAY.
ABOVE GROUND RESOURCE SURVEY UPDATE.
SO THAT SHOULD BE GIVEN THIS IS DATA AND THAT IS NOT A LIST.
SO, BUT BEFORE I POURED, GLENN ASKED HIM TO LOOK AT THAT.
I TRIED TO GO ON SHIP AND IT WASN'T THERE.
SO DO YOU HAVE THAT 19 DATA PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, OR DO WE HAVE TO ASK FOR IT? WHAT DOES PUBLICLY AVAILABLE MEAN? THE, THE 2019 SPECIFIC DATA HAS NOT BEEN ACCESSIONED INTO OUR COLLECTION ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A, A PROJECT THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH, YOU KNOW, OUR OFFICE OR ANYTHING.
WE DIDN'T GRANT FROM, WE HAVE DATA FROM PREVIOUS GRANT FUNDED SURVEYS OR WHATSOEVER, IS IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS.
WE MAINTAIN OUR OWN SORT OF DATA, A STATEWIDE INVENTORY OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
UH, WE'VE GOT DATA THAT GOES BACK TO THE, YOU KNOW, 1970S ALL THE WAY UP TO, TO LAST THIS, THIS YEAR.
UM, AND, AND SOMETIMES THOSE, WE DO FUND, UM, LOCAL SURVEYS SO THAT, THAT BASICALLY LOCAL GOVERNMENT GETS A COPY, WE GET A COPY.
AND SO WE, WE ACCESSION THAT INTO OUR RECORDS AS WELL AS, AS A, AS A RESOURCE FOR US TO, TO USE AND, AND EVALUATING AND, AND PLANNING FOR, FOR PROPERTIES.
BUT THE, THIS, THE 20 19 1 SPECIFICALLY IS NOT ACCESSIONED INTO OUR COLLECTIONS, BUT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO REVIEW IT AND, AND COMMENT ON IT.
I, I JUST THOUGHT ON YOUR SLIDE, IT SAID WE HAD TO PROVIDE THAT THAT WAS ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES.
WELL, THE, YOU WANT TO HAVE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE, WHATEVER YOUR LEVEL OF INVENTORY IS, JUST MAKING IT THAT IT BEING SURE THAT IT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE, UM, SO THAT THE, THE PUBLIC CAN INSPECT IT AND LEARN FROM IT, BENEFIT FROM IT.
JUST LIKE THE, THE TOWN IN THE, IN THE BOARD OF COMMISSION THAT THINK ALSO US AS A TOWN RIGHT.
THAT SHOULD BE ON OUR WEBSITE.
IT SHOULD BE OPEN AT ANY TIME.
UM, I'M SURE WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT YOU RAISED YOUR HAND, STEVEN.
NO, YOU, YOU ANSWERED WHAT I, I ANSWERED YOU REINSTATED WHAT I WAS GONNA KIND OF GET HIM TO CLARIFY.
YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TIGHT AND WELL DONE IS THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.
UM, WHAT ARE THE THREE TO FOUR OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE IN OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES? WELL, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A MATTER, EVERYBODY'S GUIDELINES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
IN OTHER CASES, YOU MAY, YOU COULD COMPARE GUIDELINES FROM DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND PROBABLY SEE A LOT OF THE SAME SORT OF LANGUAGE REUSED, BUT THERE MIGHT BE DIFFERENCES AS WELL.
AND IT IS REALLY A MATTER OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY SETS AS A, AS A PRIORITY FOR WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT THAT YOU WANT TO, TO DEAL WITH.
WHAT, WHAT CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES ARE YOU TRYING TO MAINTAIN ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY? AND THE GUIDELINES SHOULD BE, I MEAN, WHILE A A LOT ABOUT GUIDELINES COULD BE KIND OF BOILERPLATE INFORMATION, BUT THEY SHOULD ALSO BE SORT OF SPECIFIED TO WHATEVER ARE THE, THE UNIQUE RESOURCES IN THAT SPECIFIC COMMUNITY.
'CAUSE ARCHITECTURE IN ONE PLACE IS NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME IN ANOTHER.
SOMETIMES YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, APPLICA, UH, ARCHITECTURE THAT MIGHT BE RE REPEATED IN ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER OTHER WAYS.
UH, OTHER TYPES MAY BE SINGULAR OR UNIQUE OR REGIONAL.
SO YOU WANNA HAVE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT FIT YOUR COMMUNITY, WHAT, WHAT THE CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES OF THE COMMUNITY ARE, AND DETERMINING WHAT YOU KNOW
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IS THE, WHAT'S THE PRIORITY? WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU WANTING TO, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? WHAT, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU? IS IT IMPORTANT TO, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA MAINTAIN, UH, HISTORIC WOOD WINDOWS OR, OR DO YOU WANNA MAINTAIN WOOD SIDING OR HOW, HOW, HOW FLEXIBLE OR NOT DO YOU WANT TO BE ON THOSE ISSUES? THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WHERE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO SORT OF DECIDE HOW WIDE OPEN OR RIGID THEY MAY WANT TO BE AND, AND WHAT'S, UM, APPROVABLE OR NOT WITH INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.I KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET TO IT, UM, LATER, BUT PIGGYBACKING OFF OF WHAT TERRY JUST ASKED, UM, WHAT'S WITH TOWN OF BLUFFTON IN TERMS OF THE GUIDELINES ON HOW DO YOU HANDLE AND DEAL WITH, UM, HISTORIC STRUCTURES? I THINK THAT PROS, I THINK THE GUIDELINES FOR IT HAVE COINCIDED AND HAVE DONE A REALLY EXPLICIT, UM, JOB OF OUTLINING WITH THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARD.
AND DESIGN HAS, IT'S MORE SO OUR PROCESS OF HOW WE ARE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING UP TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING BY IT.
UM, BUT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT JUST HOW DETAILED THEY GET, THEY GO FROM ANY QUESTION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE OF A STRUCTURE FROM SIGNAGE TO, IF YOU ACQUIRE A BUILDING AND WANNA CUT IN TO PUT IN AN EXHAUST HOOD, HOW DO YOU DO THAT? IF YOU WANNA, IF YOU WERE REPAIRING A PORCH AND THE WOOD FELL FROM UNDER YOU, LIKE WHAT STEPS DO YOU TAKE? SO THE PROCESS THAT BLUFFTON HAS OUTLINES THAT TOO.
I THINK IT'S MORE SO LOOKING AT HOW DO YOU ENFORCE AND ENSURE PEOPLE ARE ABIDING BY THAT.
AS A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WANT TO CIRCUMVENT WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE AND BRING IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL OPINIONS OF HOW THEY THINK OR FEEL SOMETHING SHOULD BE.
UM, BUT HAVING GUIDELINES THAT YOU CAN STICK TO AND MAINTAIN IS MORE, UM, IMPORTANT.
I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE OF WHERE WE ARE.
I WAS GONNA, I WAS ON BRIDGET'S WAVELENGTH.
UM, I, I THINK MY TAKEAWAY FROM THIS, AGAIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M INCORRECT, THERE'S A LOT OF LEEWAY, EXCUSE ME.
AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, YOU'RE NOT, SO IT'S CONCERNING IF IT'S NOT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER, PER SE, LIKE THE TWO THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO WHAT I, MY TAKEAWAY WAS, AGAIN, AND, AND, AND KINDA LIKE WHAT BRIDGET'S SAYING, I THINK IF AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, WHETHER IT'S STIMULATION, WHETHER IT'S STABILIZATION, UH, WHATEVER IT IS, I THINK THE TAKEAWAY WAS TO TIGHTEN UP THE PROCEDURES AND POLICIES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO AVOID CONFUSION AND CONFLICT WITH THOSE THAT ARE SEEKING THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GUIDANCE, I GUESS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE RUN INTO THIS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, FREQUENTLY AND WE'VE HAD, SINCE THE EIGHT YEARS I'VE BEEN SITTING AT THE TABLE, WE PROBABLY HAD FIVE INSTANCES THAT I CAN THINK OF WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, BUSINESS OR TWO AND PROPERTY OWNERS AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEY LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE AND, YOU KNOW, THE ORDINANCES ARE SOMEWHAT ALWAYS VAGUE.
YOU CAN'T MAKE EVERYTHING PERFECT.
SO I GUESS IT'S, IT'S, IT BEHOOVES US TO JUST REVISIT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE AS MUCH AS THAT, AS MUCH AS MUCH OF THAT AS POSSIBLE AS WHAT I WAS GETTING FROM YOU.
UM, AND THANK YOU HPC FOR BEING HERE.
AND I THINK WE'LL GET DOWN INTO THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS KIND OF THING WHEN WE START LOOKING AT OUR NEXT SUBJECT, WHICH THEY WANNA START BY ONE 30 SO WE CAN STAY ON TRACK.
UM, I KNOW, I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION OF COMMUNITY.
IS THERE A QUESTION I ASKED HPC JOANIE? AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND UNLESS YOU JUST, NOW YOU'RE UP.
I WOULD RATHER ST OH, WELL, BUT YOU HAVE TO SPEAK.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, CAN I HAVE MORE THAN A COUPLE OF MINUTES? WELL ASK A, ARE YOU GONNA HAVE A QUESTION OR A SECOND? NO, I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS NOT WHAT I CAME PREPARED TO DO, TO SAY, BUT DOES ANYBODY IN HERE KNOW THE HISTORY OF PRESERVATION? YOU PROBABLY DON'T.
SO, AND DON'T GO SO MUCH ON THE HISTORY.
MAYBE QUESTIONS OF HIM, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
BUT I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW THAT WOMEN STARTED PRESERVATION IN THIS COUNTRY IN 1850 AT MOUNT VERNON.
IT MOVED ON TO WILLIAMSBURG, RICHMOND, CHARLESTON, SAVANNAH, SAN ANTONIO, WHO ELSE? BRAD, UH, NEW ORLEANS.
IT MOVED AROUND THE COUNTRY UNTIL FINALLY PRESIDENT JOHNSON PASSED THE NATIONAL PRESERVATION LAW.
AND THAT'S WHEN HISTORIC DISTRICTS CAME INTO BEING.
AND THIS INFORMATION IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY KNEW IT, PARTICULARLY OUR HPC MEMBERS AND OUR TOWN COUNCIL PEOPLE.
AND FROM THAT, WHEN THAT WAS PASSED, PRESIDENT JOHNSON GAVE IT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
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INTERIOR.THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR GAVE IT TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.
THE PARK SERVICE SAID THE STATES ARE GONNA DO IT.
AND THAT'S WHEN SHIPPER BEGAN.
SHIPPER SAID, WE CAN'T DO IT BY OURSELVES.
AND TO BE ACLG, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN HPC.
AND HPCS DON'T EXIST IN CITIES WHERE THERE'S NO CLG.
SO, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL KNOW WHY WE HAVE AN HPC.
SO THAT BRINGS ME TO MY POINT.
I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT WE'VE HAD, BUT I'M HERE, REALLY, DAN GAVE ME MY ENTRY POINT IN SAYING THAT SOME CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE IN OUR CLG FOR OUR HPC.
AND IF THIS IS MY BIBLE, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT, YOU NEED TO READ IT.
IT'S A STATE REGULATIONS FOR CGS CHAPTER 12.
IT'S, IT'S WHERE ALL, EVERYTHING THAT ACLG AND AN HPC IS SUPPOSED TO BE AND DO IS IN THIS LITTLE CHAPTER.
SO IN THE CHAPTER, IT DOES SAY, AND I LEFT MY READING GLASSES, SO I CAN'T READ THAT.
THE COMMISSION, THE HPC SHALL HAVE AUTHORITY IN THE ORDINANCE TO REVIEW AND RENDER DECISIONS ON ALL PROPOSED EVERYTHING, ALTERATIONS, PRESERVATION, REHABS, AND THE WHOLE BIT AFFECTING DESIGNATED HISTORIC PRESERVATION AREAS ARE INDIVIDUALLY DESIGNATED LOCAL LANDMARKS.
AND WE HAVE A FEW OF THOSE HERE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE ONLY HAVE 10 ANTEBELLUM STRETCHES, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
AND IF YOU HAVE YOUR UDO SECTION 3.18, AND THAT PROVIDES PROCEDURES AND STANDARDS TO FACILITATE THE REVIEW OF CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS.
WE ALL KNOW THOSE CERTIFICATES COME ONLY FROM THE HPC, NOT FROM THE TOWN PER SE.
SO IF YOU GO TO B UNDER THAT SECTION, IT'S THE MAINTENANCE OF CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AS REMINDERS OF OUR DISTRICT AND OUR CULTURE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, THE STAND, THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR RE REHABILITATION.
THEN IF YOU MOVE TO APPLICABILITY, THIS IS OUR GRAY AREA, EXCEPT FOR THE REMOVAL OF MANUFACTURED HOMES.
Y'ALL HAVE READ IT ARE CONS THEY HAVE CONSTRUCTED 50 YEARS AGO.
WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE TOWN SHALL BE ERECTED, REMEDIATED, DEMOLISHED.
SO THEN IT SAYS THE HPC SHALL REVIEW APPLICATIONS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR ANY ACTIVITY, WHICH, AND IT LISTS FROM A THROUGH G.
THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, CLEANED UP.
NOW, THIS IS NOT, THIS CHAPTER ARE THE UDO.
THIS SECTION RULES MAY BE RESULTING FROM CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES, BYPASSING THE HPC, THIS, THESE A THROUGH G GIVE PEOPLE A REASON TO BYPASS.
THIS IS NOT THE INTENT OF THE STATE REGS IN THE STATE REGULATIONS.
REMEMBER THE STATE REGS SAID HPCS.
IT'S NOT ALL SOME STRUCTURES, IT'S ALL THAT THE HPC REGULATES OVER OUR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS, THESE ARE WORDS FROM THE STATE.
AND WE NEED TO FOLLOW THEM AS A TOWN AND WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THEM.
THE SECTION OF APPLICABILITY SHOULD READ.
ALL WORK DONE ON OUR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES MUST GO BEFORE THE HPC AND RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
WE ARE LETTING PEOPLE BYPASS THAT.
AND THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE IN THIS TOWN.
WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHO NEEDS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND WHO DOESN'T.
SO IF WE MOVE, MOVE ON TO THE SITE FEATURE PERMIT.
THE SITE FEATURE PERMIT SHOULD SAY, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, WELL FIRST OF ALL, A PERMIT'S REQUIRED FOR SIGNS PARKING LOTS GARDENS ARE MAINTENANCE OF REPAIR OF EXISTING STRUCTURES.
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PERMIT SHOULD BE APPLICABLE ONLY TO NON CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE STRUCTURES.ALL CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES MUST HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR ALL WORK.
IF WE MAKE THAT CLEAR AND WE MAKE THAT THE RULE, WE'RE GONNA AVOID A LOT OF ISSUES IN OUR TOWN.
AND I HAVE ONLY ONE MORE THING TO, TO ADD, AND IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION.
CHAPTER 12 FROM THE STATE SAYS THAT IT IS THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY AND SHIPPO'S TO EDUCATE OUR HPC MEMBERS.
WE NEED TO EDUCATE OUR MEMBERS.
AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF IDEAS FOR YOU.
THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE HAS MYRIAD OF ARTICLES ON PRESERVATION.
THEY'RE VERY FRIENDLY AND ANYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND THEM.
AND I KNOW TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE FOR OUR HPC MEMBERS.
THEY COMMIT TO ONE MEETING A MONTH.
SO ON CANCELED MEETINGS, BRING THEM IN FOR AN EDUCATION TIME.
AND THAT'S MY THANK YOU JOAN INPUT.
UM, MAINLY LET'S ASK QUESTIONS ON, THANK YOU, JOANIE.
I TOOK NOTES BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET DOWN INTO THE, OH, I HAVE ONE MORE THING.
WELL, LET'S, AND I BROUGHT IT WITH ME, BUT THE SITE FEATURE PERMIT IS NOT PART OF HPC AND IT SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE HPC WEBSITE.
'CAUSE ON AREA SEVEN WE'RE GETTING INTO OUR WORKSHOP ITEMS, WHICH IS CHANGING UDO AND THINGS.
SO IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET THE, TO THE SHIPPER.
'CAUSE I KNOW SHIP'S BEEN A BIG CONVERSATION POINT ON Y'ALL COULD GET RID OF US TOMORROW AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT JOHNNY, I TOOK NOTES AND THANK YOU.
AND I WILL ABSOLUTELY CALL ON COMMUNITY WHEN WE GET TO THIS SECTION.
UM, ERIC CAN MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.
WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE SOME OF OUR HBC MEMBERS HERE, AND I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO, UM, COME ACROSS IN A, A PARENT WHERE WE'RE NOT APPRECIATIVE OF THEM.
SO I DON'T WANT ANY COMMENT TO BE MADE TO SHOW THAT WE DON'T VALUE WHAT YOU ALL DO.
AND JUST THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT TO BE HERE TODAY.
REALLY TRY TO FOCUS IN ON QUESTIONS TO GET MORE CLARITY FROM HOW SHIP A RULES ARE DAY WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I'M MELANIE MARKS, UH, BRAD AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT JUST PRESERVATION IN GENERAL.
AND JUST, JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW WHERE I COME FROM IN MY BACKGROUND.
I'VE, I'VE WORKED IN PRESERVATION FOR 25 PLUS YEARS.
I RUN A COMPANY THAT IS PRESERVATION CENTRIC.
I DO WORK ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M NOT HERE TO TOUT MY CREDENTIALS.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF PRESERVATION AND HOW THINGS CAN WORK BETTER.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, BRAD, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.
I KNOW I SAID TO BRAD IT, I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE THIS ORGANIZATION THAT WE CAN GO TO AND ASK QUESTIONS THAT WE DON'T TYPICALLY UNDERSTAND OR KNOW AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
THAT'S WHY SHIPPO WAS CREATED.
I LEAN ON MY SHIPPO IN CONNECTICUT HEAVILY, UH, FOR THINGS THAT I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I'VE SAID THIS TO DAN WOOD, IF YOU DON'T KNOW SOMETHING, RESEARCH IT.
AND I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE TWEAKED WITH PRESERVATION AND BLUFFTON TO MAKE IT MORE, I THINK COMMUNITY FRIENDLY.
UH, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THIS DIFFICULT.
THERE ARE BASIC THINGS, LITTLE THINGS THAT IF YOU JUST SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT 'EM, THEY WOULD PROBABLY GO A LOT EASIER.
AND THUS WHY I REACHED OUT TO BRAD BECAUSE I FELT LIKE THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND.
UH, AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME.
ANY, I WAS TRYING TO GET QUESTIONS FOR YOU 'CAUSE YOU CAME THIS FAR AND I DIDN'T GET ANY QUESTIONS.
DO I GUESS, I GUESS TO END THIS, 'CAUSE WE DO WANNA START BACK AT ONE 30 'CAUSE THE, WE ARE GONNA GET INTO THE MEAT OF THIS WITH DEFINITE CHANGES, BUT UM, IT IS SHIPPING THE TOWN INVOLVED WITH EACH OTHER.
WHEN YOU DO GET CALLS FROM OUR COMMUNITY, IS THERE A CONVERSATION YOU HAVE WITH GLEN? DO Y'ALL TALK? DO WE HAVE TO CALL YOU? I JUST CLARITY, GLEN AND I HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS OVER THE PAST.
AND SO I MEAN, WE'RE BASICALLY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ON CALL, ON STANDBY TO, TO BE ABLE TO, TO HELP AND, AND PROVIDE ANY TECHNICAL GUIDANCE OR INFORMATION.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
UM, SO WHETHER IT'S COMING TO REGARDING, UM, IF YOU WANNA MAKE
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EDITS OR CHANGES TO YOUR ORDINANCE OR TALK ABOUT TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES, WE WANNA HELP FACILITATE THAT AS, AS BEST WE CAN.SO, I MEAN, WE'RE HERE AS A, AS A RESOURCE ON CALL.
ARE YOU GONNA BE HERE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE ITEMS? REAL SPECIFICALLY, HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND ORDINANCES? ARE YOU LEAVING? WELL, I THINK I NEED TO GET BACK UP THE ROAD, BUT I, I'M NOT HAPPY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I CAN TALK WITH, WITH STAFF ANYTIME.
IF THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED CHANGES YOU WANNA MAKE, THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, SEND 'EM TO ME AND I CAN GIVE MY COMMENTS AND ADVICE ON IT AND SEE, YOU KNOW, BE SURE THAT THEY'RE WITHIN THE, THE FAIRLY BROAD GUARDRAILS AND, AND, AND GIVE YOU COMMENTS ON THAT.
AND, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY IT IS, YOU KNOW, LOCAL DECISION TO MAKE.
AND I'LL TRY TO GIVE YOU THE BEST ADVICE I CAN ON WHETHER SOMETHING IS A, USUALLY WHAT I FOCUS ON WHEN THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS COME ON.
IT IS SOMETHING A, A BEST PRACTICE OR NOT.
UM, AND I CAN TRY TO HELP THAT OUT.
AND YOU HEARD SOME COMMENTS THAT SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED AND TALKED ABOUT IN THE NEXT SUBJECT IN TWO MINUTES.
IS THAT THOSE ITEMS THAT MS. HAYWARD ACTUALLY ASKED ABOUT, IS THAT FOLLOWING US AS A LOCAL ENTITY OR CAN YOU GIVE GUIDANCE ON RICK? I CAN, I'M HAPPY TO, TO GIVE AS BEST I CAN, GUIDANCE ON YOUR ORDINANCE AS IT EXISTS.
AND IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR UPDATES TO US TO IT.
UM, I MEAN IT WORKS BEST IF YOU, YOU KNOW, COME EITHER COME TO ME WITH, WITH A QUESTION OR COME TO ME WITH A SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE WANNA DO.
DO YOU THINK THIS, YOU KNOW, MAKES SENSE OR IS THE BEST PRACTICE OR NOT? THEN I CAN GIVE YOU FEEDBACK ON THAT.
SO YOU GIVE US KIND OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION OF HP
NO, BUT YOU GET THE OPINION OF A FIGURE.
BUT HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THIS ABOUT I'M SAYING HE'S SAYING IT'S ALL ON, IT'S ALL ON BASICALLY FALLS ALL ON US LOCALLY UNLESS IT'S IT'S WITHIN THAT DISTRICT THAT'S CALLED THE NATIONAL DISTRICT, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE, THE DISTINCTION I WAS TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TO EMPHASIZE AND IT'S, IT'S A QUESTION AND WE GET DAILY AND I'VE GOTTEN NEARLY DAILY FOR 25 YEARS.
BUT IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES CAN AND CAN'T DO AND WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT PRESERVATION PROGRAMS CAN AND CAN'T DO.
AND, UM, I MEAN, YEAH, WE ARE NOT THE PRESERVATION POLICE, BUT TO THE, TO THE EXTENT THERE IS A PRESERVATION POLICE, IT WOULD BE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IF THEY CHOOSE TO BE ONE.
AND TO THE EXTENT THEY CHOOSE TO BE ONE
'CAUSE I KNOW WE GOTTA GET GOING IN OUR BINDER.
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU NEW, THERE'S A QR CODE YOU CAN SCAN.
AND ON YOUR SCAN YOU'LL SEE WHAT'S IN OUR BINDER.
AND IN OUR BINDER UNDER SECTION EIGHT GIVES THE EXACTLY WHAT JOANIE WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE STATE CODE, THE LOCAL, EVERYTHING'S IN FOR IN THERE FOR US.
UM, AND IT ALSO HAS THE MAP SHOWING THE NATIONAL, HIS REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH IS BASICALLY TO THE RI BRIDGE STREET TO THE RIVER AND UP CALHOUN STREET, ROUGHLY.
AND THEN THE OLD TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH IS OUR RULES.
AND WHAT WE SET WITH COMMUNITY INPUT, HOPEFULLY IS THE GREEN THAT'S REALLY ABOVE BRIDGE STREET ALL THE WAY, JUST A LITTLE NORTH OF MAY RIVER FROM LIMIT TO LIMIT, INCLUDING THE ORANGE.
BUT THE ORANGE HAS A NET SECOND LEVEL OF SCRUTINY, WHICH CAN REALLY CAUSE US ISSUES IF WE VIOLATE THAT THAT RIGHT.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE INPUT ON IN THE ORANGE.
NO, HE'S AGAIN, THE, THE NATIONAL REGISTER LEFT IN NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT IS, AGAIN, IT'S LARGELY AN HONORIFIC DESIGNATION AND WE JUST GET INVOLVED WHEN THERE ARE FEDERAL UNDERTAKINGS OR WHEN OWNERS ARE USING SPECIFIC GRANTS OR TAX INCENTIVES OR THINGS THAT, THAT ARE TIED TO THAT NATIONAL REGISTER STATUS.
GENERAL, ANYTHING LIKE, WELL BAILEY BILL IS LOCAL.
UH, WHEN YOU'VE GOT A LOCAL BOARD.
WE ONLY REVIEW BAILEY BILL THINGS WHEN THERE'S NO LOCAL BOARD.
I'M GONNA PULL OUT JOANIE FOR A MINUTE.
'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS WORLD THAT WE'RE LIVING IN.
WHEN SHE REDID HER HOUSE ON, ON WATER STREET, SHE WENT STRAIGHT TO Y'ALL.
SO HER HOUSE REALLY FELL UNDER THAT AS WELL.
THE, THE PINE HOUSE, THAT'S NOT THE GRANT BECAUSE SHE USED TAX CREDITS.
SHE HAD Y'ALL COME IN AND RIGHT.
IF, IF, IF SOMEBODY WAS USING THE TAX INCENTIVES THAT WE'RE INVOLVED WITH, AND WE DEFINITELY HAVE A ROLE IN, IN REVIEWING IT AND APPROVING THAT, WHETHER IT'S THE, THE STATE, UH, INCOME TAX, UH, CREDIT OR THE FEDERAL ONE FOR INCOME PRODUCING PROJECTS.
UM, WE HAVE A A DEFINITE ROLE IN THAT WHEN IT'S A, A TAX CREDIT APPLICATION PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON.
BUT, SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH CAMPBELL CHURCH OF THE CROSS? ANYONE WHO'S USED ANY KIND OF STATE TAX CREDITS ONLY, ONLY IF YOU'RE GIVING THEM MONEY.
YEAH, WE ONLY HAVE OVER, YEAH, WE DON'T, ALRIGHT, JUST USE CAMPBELL CHAPEL 'CAUSE IT'S MOST RECENT.
UM, THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL LISTING THEIR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE UPKEEP, OR LACK THEREOF OF THE BUILDING.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY OVERSIGHT OR REGULATION OF THAT UNLESS WE ARE PROVIDING DIRECT GRANT ASSISTANCE OR THERE IS FEDERAL UNDERTAKING THAT AFFECTS IT.
BUT IF THEY'RE JUST ON THEIR OWN WITH PRIVATE FUNDING OR, OR WHATEVER, DOING THINGS THAT ARE GOOD, BAD, OR INDIFFERENT TO THE BUILDING, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OVERSIGHT OF IT NOT REQUIRED TO, TO COME TO
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US FOR ANY PRIOR APPROVAL.WE, THEY'RE JUST VERY NARROW SPECIFIC ACTIONS THAT TRIGGER OUR OVERSIGHT AND REVIEW OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE LISTED IN THE REGISTER.
CURIOUS FOR US TO KNOW WHO, WHAT PROPERTIES ARE REALLY CRITICAL IF Y'ALL HAVE TO HAVE EYES AND EARS ON IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ANSWER IS FOR US.
WELL, THE THINGS THAT ARE, SORRY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THE ONLY TIME YOU CARE ABOUT ANYTHING IS IF SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO GET A GRANT ON A CERTAIN PROJECT.
WELL, AND THAT'S THE ONLY, WE, I MEAN WE CARE ABOUT ALL HISTORIC PROPERTIES, BUT, BUT AS FAR AS HAVING A A A REGULATORY OR SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, POWER TO DO ANYTHING TO OF ANY SORT IS WHEN IT'S A TRIGGER TO ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS. UM, SO IF SOMEBODY IS JUST MAKING A, SAY THIS AN EXAMPLE OF A HOUSE THAT'S IN THE BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT'S LISTED THE NATIONAL REGISTER, BUT ALSO HAS LOCAL REVIEW.
UM, IF SOMEBODY IS JUST, YOU KNOW, PAINTING THE OUTSIDE OR FIXING THE WINDOWS OR WHATEVER, AND THEY'RE JUST DOING IT THAT OUTTA THEIR OWN POCKET, THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE TOWN TO GET THAT WORK APPROVED, BUT THEY'RE NOT COMING TO US.
THE ONLY, THEY'RE ONLY COMING TO US.
IF THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO GET A STATE TAX CREDIT FOR THAT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE REVIEW OVER IT.
UM, BUT THAT'S, IT'S ONLY THOSE VERY SPECIFIC NARROW INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE ANY SORT OF POLICE OR REGULATORY ROLE.
BUT ONE FINAL THING AND ANSWER LIKE TWO, YOU DON'T HAVE TOO DETAILED WHAT IF WE, WHAT, OH, I DON'T EVEN HOW TO ASK IT.
SO IF THERE IS A STRUCTURE THAT WAS MOVED AND RECONSTRUCTED, YOU DON'T CARE IF WE STILL CALL IT A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE OR NOT.
THERE ARE NO RULES AT A STATE LEVEL.
THAT'S YOUR, WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE, YEAH, YOU'VE GOT YOUR OWN PROCESS AND CRITERIA FOR WHAT YOU DETERMINE IS CONTRIBUTING OR NOT IN A LOCAL OVERLAY.
YOU KNOW, HOW THAT'S SEEN BY THE NATIONAL REGISTER MAY BE THE SAME OR DIFFERENT.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE, THE SITUATION IS, BUT WHAT WE DON'T.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S TWO SEPARATE PROCESSES.
AND I WAS JUST GONNA SAY FOR THE PURPOSE OF CLARITY, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE IN TERMS OF PRESERVATION, AS YOU SAID, A LOT OF THOSE REGULATIONS FALL TO US ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.
AND WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ARE THOSE WHO AT TIMES WANNA CIRCUMVENT OUR PROCESS.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, IF I CAN, IF I DON'T LIKE WHAT HPC HAS SAID, CAN I GO TO SOMEONE ELSE AND KIND OF GET MY WAY? BECAUSE I THINK PRESERVATION IS THIS OR THAT, AND THE REALITY IS IT'S BEEN SET AT THE LOCAL LEVEL FOR THAT REASON.
AND IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ANYONE TO COME IN AND CONVOLUTE THE PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT IT IS.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BE UPSET WITH THE UDO ORDINANCE AND SAY, WELL, I'M GONNA GO ABOVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I WANT TO CONTACT SOMEONE AT THE STATE OR FEDERAL LEVEL TO BUILD WHAT I WANT.
YOU KNOW, PRESERVATION HAS BEEN OUTLINED AS WHAT IT IS.
AND AS LONG AS PEOPLE FALL IN THOSE PARAMETERS, THAT'S WHAT WE ABIDE BY.
AND THE NEED JUST NEEDS, NEEDS TO BE A FOCUS MORE ON OUR PRESERVATIONISTS AND WHOEVER ELSE IS FOLLOWING THAT PROCESS THAT PEOPLE ADHERE TO WHAT THE HPC HAS SET AND THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THOSE GUIDELINES AND NOT DOING THEIR OWN THING.
WE ARE RIGHT AT 1 30, 10 SECONDS.
I'M GONNA TAKE, I'M GONNA BRING US BACK AND TAKE US FORWARD A LITTLE BIT.
THAT MUST BE WHY IT KEEPS CUTTING OUT.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAD THIS ON THE AGENDA AND WE DID IT THE WAY WE DID IT AND WHY WE WANTED THE STATE TO BE HERE IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET COUNSEL TO GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES, WHAT STAFF RESPONSIBILITIES, AND HOW WE ALL WORK SYMBIOTIC WITHIN THIS, WITHIN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
BECAUSE AS WE START GOING INTO THE ACTUAL ACTION ITEMS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHAT CAME OUTTA COUNCIL WAS WITH THAT BASE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH OUR LOCAL HISTORIC ORDINANCE IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TO LOOK LIKE, BE MAINTAINED AS, AND HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS BE.
AND AS YOU, THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE BRAD AND KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT.
AND AS YOU'RE KIND OF GETTING TO THAT POINT THERE AT THE END AND THE STATEMENTS WERE BEING MADE IS REALLY WHAT PROCESS, WHAT PRESERVATION, WHAT GUIDELINES, WHAT RESTRICTIONS, UH, MOVING, DEMOLITION, ALL THAT.
IT'S WHAT COUNCIL'S DESIRE IS TO MAINTAIN THAT HISTORIC DISTRICT AT THAT LEVEL.
AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO GET TO THAT POINT AS WE MOVED INTO THE, UM, ACTION ITEMS, IS BECAUSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THAT SAME BASE UNDERSTANDING SO THAT AS THE ACTION ITEMS WERE BEING DISCUSSED, THEY, WE WERE MAKING SURE WE WERE FOCUSING ON COUNCIL SPECIFIC PRIORITIES.
SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF THANK Y'ALL HOW TO SOLVE ALL THAT TODAY.
WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE ALL THAT TODAY.
AND A LOT OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE, AND, AND THIS IS NOT AN AGENDA.
WHAT YOU'LL, WHAT, WHAT WE'LL LOOK AT IS WHAT A LOT OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE
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IS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO, HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT.WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO Y'ALL AND I'M GONNA LET THEM HIT ON THAT MORE.
SO WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT REVIEWING IT, WE'LL, WE'LL SAY WE NEED TO REVIEW THIS, BUT WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO Y'ALL WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR Y'ALL TO APPROVE.
BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD, AND EVERYBODY WAS ON THE SAME BASE LEVEL THAT THE LOCAL DISTRICT, ITS COUNCILS, COUNCILS TO DECIDE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ASKED THE SURVEY QUESTIONS, IS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THAT WAS COUNCIL WIDE AS WE START GOING INTO THESE CONVERSATIONS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SAY THAT AND THEN I'M SO SAY, AND THAT'LL TAKE US FORWARD AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE ACTION ITEMS. SO, SO THE PLAN IS, IS THIS SOMETHING Y'ALL WANT ON AN AGENDA PIPELINE FOR NEXT YEAR OR THIS YEAR OR TOMORROW TO DETERMINE AND GET, DECIDE? DO YOU WANT COMMUNITY INPUT? DO YOU WANNA GET A GROUP TOGETHER? DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT'S SIMPLE? IT MUST NOT BE SIMPLE BECAUSE EVERYONE'S CON I'M STILL CONFUSED.
AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME ITEMS IN HERE ALREADY.
THAT REFERENCE DOING SOME OF THAT RESEARCH AND BRING YOU STUFF BACK.
YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE QUITE THERE YET AT THE FILL
Y'ALL ARE UP, YOU DON'T HAVE THIS IN YOUR PACKET, YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROPOSED WAIT, BECAUSE WE, WE WERE WORKING ON THIS UP THROUGH LAST NIGHT, BUT WE WILL GET THIS FOR EVERYONE TO SEE THIS.
THIS WILL BE WHAT WILL BECOME THIS.
UM, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD EARLIER ABOUT, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AND PARTNERS AND WHATNOT, I PROPOSE THIS LANGUAGE THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED.
UM, THESE ARE ADDITIONAL, UH, BUT PARTNERING WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES TO SUPPORT THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE EFFORTS THAT IMPACT THE TOWN TO GET TO MAYOR, WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
WE DON'T CONTROL ALL OF IT, BUT THOSE THAT ARE HERE, WE NEED TO BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM.
UM, AND THEN THAT CREATES THE FOURTH, UM, GUIDING PRINCIPLE, WHICH REALLY TALKS ABOUT, UM, ALL THE AVENUES CREATING, PURSUING AND MAINTAINING COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIPS TO MAXIMIZE AND LEVERAGE OUTSIDE AGENCIES INFRASTRUCTURE TO BENEFIT OUR RESIDENTS.
SO IT TALKS ABOUT, WE DON'T CONTROL AT ALL, BUT WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THOSE THAT DO.
ARE YOU ALL HAPPY WITH THAT? GOOD.
SO, UM, THAT WILL BE THAT CHANGE.
WE HAVE TO GO TO THE POWERPOINT AND THEN TO THAT LIST.
YOU WANNA SKIP THE POWERPOINT? YEAH.
I JUST START? YEAH, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAYOR.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, UM, IS WE'VE GOT 97 PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, UH, BY STAFF, MOST OF 'EM OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
THAT'S, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT'S A LOT OF PROJECTS.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, AND THE MANAGER STARTED THIS, IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON, ON, WE WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON WHY ARE WE, YOU KNOW, GOOD TO ASK QUESTIONS.
WHY IS THIS BEING DONE? BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, IS IT A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY? YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE GOVERNING BOARD.
SECONDLY, UH, IT'S REAL IMPORTANT TO ASK WHAT'S BEING DONE? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THIS? IF YOU DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE, OBVIOUSLY BILL AND I FROM AT ARE FROM OUT OF TOWN.
SO A LOT OF 'EM ARE, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? AND WE ASKED QUESTIONS YESTERDAY.
WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO THE HOW, BECAUSE IF WE START GETTING INTO ASKING STAFF, WELL, WHAT STEPS ARE YOU GONNA TAKE TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT? WE'LL BE HERE UNTIL NEXT WEEK.
AND ALL OF THESE, EVERY SINGLE, I VERIFIED IT WITH A MANAGER TODAY.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU, THE COUNCIL.
SO YOU'RE GONNA GET A NUMBER OF BITES AT WHEN IT GETS DOWN TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DOWN TO TO IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT.
DID DID WE MISS ANYTHING? WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THESE LISTS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE MISSED? NOW WE, WE OBVIOUSLY, UH, THE STAFF REALLY GLEANED OVER THE, THE COUNCIL SURVEYS, UH, YESTERDAY ON YOUR PRIORITIES.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU, YOU KNOW, OVER BILL AND I LEARNED OVER THE LAST YEAR, THEY WERE LISTENING TO YOU.
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO ACTUALLY LISTEN.
UH, SO THEY WERE LISTENING TO YOU.
AND SO I THINK, I THINK EVERYTHING'S CAPTURED, BUT WE'RE NOT PERFECT.
THERE MAY BE SOMETHING MISSED.
SO WE NEED TO KNOW IF IT WAS MISSED, YOU NEED TO LET US KNOW.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S A COLOR CODE ON THESE, AND MY COLORS MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OFF, BUT THE, THE BROWN PROJECTS ARE CONTINUING.
THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT YOU, THEY'RE JUST ONGOING.
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ONES WILL BE CARRIED OVER FROM THE CURRENT, UM, THE CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN.OBVIOUSLY THE, THE, THE, THE ONES THAT AREN'T COLOR CODED ARE THE, ARE THE NEW PROJECT.
SO, UM, LET'S, LET'S GET INTO IT.
UM, THE FIRST PROJECT IS WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE, UH, FOCUS AREA, AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SO WE'LL IDENTIFY THE, THE FOCUS AREA.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE, THE NEXT THING UNDER STRATEGIC INITIATIVE IS THE PROJECT.
THERE'S A PROJECT DESCRIPTION.
UM, IT'LL SAY WHAT DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, WHAT FISCAL YEAR IT'S GONNA START, AND THEN WHAT, WHAT FISCAL YEAR IT'S GOING TO END.
SO ALL OF THOSE ARE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
SO I'M JUST GONNA START ON THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS DEVELOP A HOUSING PLAN.
UM, THE DESCRIPTION ON THAT IS A HOUSING ANALYSIS TO COMPLY WITH STATE REQUIREMENTS.
GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT 25, IT STARTS 25 IT ENDS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? COUNSEL? THE, THE SECOND ONE IS AFFORDABLE IS, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S EVALUATE THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM OFFER OPTIONS FOR CREATING, UM, UH, A, UH, AND CONSIDERING A SLIDING SCALE.
I WON'T READ ALL OF IT TO YOU.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN READ, AND THAT'S GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
AND THAT'S ALSO STARTS IN 25 ENDS AND 25.
DO YOU WANT TO JUST LOOK AT WHAT SOUNDS WHAT LITTLE BLANK LITTLE BLACK BLOCK AT A TIME? YOU MEAN THE WHOLE SCREEN? YEAH.
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO THE CARRYOVERS IN HERE TOO? 'CAUSE THAT 87 TURNS TO 104.
YEAH, THE CARRYOVERS ARE GREEN.
AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
WHEN WE SEE CONTINUOUS, THOSE ARE ITEMS WHERE WE MAY BE WORKING ON, BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE A VALUE OF COUNCIL, THAT YOU REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON LIKE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT'S GONNA STAY IN THERE UNTIL COUNCIL TELLS US IT EVER NEEDS TO PROBABLY COME OUT.
IT'S NOT AN ADDED WEIGHT ON YOUR SHOULDER, IT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU'RE, IT'S MORE OF, UM, IT'S MORE OF A REMINDER TO US THAT IT'S STILL A PRIORITY FOR COUNSEL.
AND WE'LL GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THAT WHEN IT COMES UP, RIGHT.
WHEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU, WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US TOO.
SO TAKE, TAKE A LOOK AT THE SCREEN.
IS THERE ANY, WE JUST WANT IT AND RATHER THAN ME READING THROUGH EVERYONE, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO DO, BUT IF YOU, YOU CAN READ, IS THERE ANYTHING, QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK WE'VE MISSED IN TERMS OF PROJECTS? AND AGAIN, ON THESE FIVE, ON THESE, YEAH, THERE'S, YOU'VE GOT FIVE UP.
SO THE, AND AGAIN, IS IT THE BROWN THAT'S CONTINUOUS, THAT'S CONTINUOUS? YEAH, THE BROWN IS THE CONTINU OR THE CONTINUING PROJECTS FROM THIS YEAR.
I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP BRIDGE IT WITH A QUESTION TO ASK BECAUSE I'LL, I'LL, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL JUST START SCROLLING UP.
AND THESE ARE BROKEN DOWN BY THE FOCUS AREAS.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING JUST ABOUT AFFORDABLE AND, AND I'M GONNA SAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO DO YOU WANT OUR FAULTS AS YOU SCROLL OR TOWARD THE END OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING? THEN STOP AND SAY WHERE DO YOU SEE, IF YOU LOOK AT IF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU'LL SEE ALL THE PROJECTS IS SOMETHING MISSING EVEN UDO AMENDMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
MAYBE LET IT SCROLL AND THEN ASK.
SO LET ME, LET ME SCROLL THROUGH AND THEN YOU'LL SEE.
SCROLL SLOW 'CAUSE I'M READING.
SO THERE ARE SEVEN PROJECTS UNDER AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AGAIN, THE GREEN ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CONTINUING, EVEN THOUGH THIS ONE DOESN'T INDICATE IT.
AND REMEMBER IF, UH, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UDO AMENDMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IS UNDER COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY HAVE A CONNECTION TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO FIRE OFF YOUR QUESTION AND THEN WE'LL
AND THEN HEATHER, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN.
SO ONE OF THE, THE CONVERSATIONS, UM, THAT I'VE HAD IS, WE KNOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS BEEN A, A FOCUS HERE.
AND THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS BLUFFTON HAS ADDRESSED IT.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, HAS BEEN DIFFICULT IS TRYING TO GET, UM, DEVELOPERS IN THOSE TO BUILD BELOW A CERTAIN AMI THRESHOLD.
AND SO LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES OF OTHER AREAS, MANY HAVE ADOPTED A MODEL OF TINY HOMES CONSTRUCTIONS, AND IT'S NOT THE TRADITIONAL SENSE OF ONES THAT ARE PULLED IN ON THE TRAILER, BUT THEY'RE ACTUAL, UM, SMALLER, UH, SQUARE FOOTPRINTS THAT HAVE CONCRETE FOUNDATION.
THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, SEWER, YOU KNOW, HEATING IN ALL OF THAT.
AND IT'S, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE HOW DO WE, HOW AND WHERE DO WE PUT THAT IN SO THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS KNOW THAT IT'S SOMETHING WE ARE CONSIDERING
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THAT WE WOULD INCENTIVIZE.AND FOR RESIDENTS WHO ARE ABLE TO MAYBE GET A MORTGAGE, SOMETHING FOR THAT AMOUNT KNOWS THAT BLUFF INS UDO ALSO ALLOWS IT.
THERE THERE IS THAT BRIDGE SCREW UP.
YEAH, IF YOU, THERE'S SOMETHING YES.
ABOUT HOUSING TYPES, LET'S SAY THERE IN THE GREEN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPES.
I CAN ALTERNA YOU WANT ME TRY ALTERNATIVE BUILDING? GO AHEAD KEVIN.
WE'RE AWARE OF THAT AND THAT, THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT WHERE IT JUST SAYS THAT ALTERNATIVE BUILDING TYPES, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK AS UH, OPTIONS.
UM, JUST BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE A VERY BIG LOT AND YOU WANNA PUT A TINY LITTLE HOUSE ON IT.
SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO WE'RE, WE ARE AWARE OF IT AND, AND I'VE ALREADY STARTED DOING SOME RESEARCH ON THAT.
AND I THINK TOO, TO ADD ON TO THAT, KEVIN HAD IN SOME OF THESE DESCRIPTIONS ABOUT, UM, YES, ALLOW, DO WE ALLOW MORE EVEN DENSITY? CAN YOU PUT A TINY HOME IN ADDITION TO YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR OTHER HOME ON THE PROPERTY? WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ON HERE THAT YOU'LL SEE ONCE WE HAVE THIS ALL FINALIZED AND DRAFTED FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL IS THERE'S THE PRIMARY FOCUS AREA AND THEN THERE'LL BE A SECONDARY STRATEGIC FOCUS AREA SO WE CAN ADD AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO IT.
IT WAS WHEN WE HAD MULTIPLE STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS IN THERE, IT GOT A LITTLE BIT CLUMSY ON TRYING TO KEEP IT ORGANIZED SO WE CAN ADD AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THAT SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE FOCUSES.
I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT FOCUS.
I WAS SHARING WITH SOMEONE COUNCIL THAT THERE'S ALREADY A MODEL LIKE THAT THAT'S IN NOW THE, I THINK FOURTH PHASE WHERE THEY STARTED WITH JUST SINGLE UNIT TINY HOMES AND ARE NOW DOING TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS TO ACCOMMODATE FAMILIES.
AND CONSIDERING WHERE WE ARE, IT'S DEFINITELY A NEED FOR SOME OF OUR MOST, UM, YOU KNOW, VULNERABLE RESIDENTS HERE.
I MET WITH THE TEACHER THE OTHER DAY WHO'S TRAVELING EVERY DAY FROM AIKEN.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN HOMELESS SHELTERS.
SO I THINK LOOKING OUTSIDE THE TRADITIONAL WAY THAT WE'VE DONE THINGS IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT AS WE TRY TO RETAIN PEOPLE HERE.
OKAY, SO THAT IS, THOSE ARE ALL OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND THE FIRST PROJECT ON THAT'S UH, IS HOLD ON.
WHAT? UH OH, COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE.
I WAS LOOKING FOR WHAT RICHARD WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT IN, IN NUMBER EIGHT.
ARE WE READY TO MOVE AHEAD? WE ARE READY.
UH, SO, UH, UNDER THIS BILL'S GOT, BILL'S GOT, UH, THE PROJECTS TO START.
THIS IS A PRETTY, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'VE MISSED IN, IN THIS AREA.
SO IS THE COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE POLICY IMPROVEMENTS, IS THAT WHERE WE CAN TAKE NOTES FROM OUR COMMENTS ON THE HISTORIC, ON THE PRESERVATION SIDE ON THE UDO AMENDMENTS? I MEAN ON THE, IS THAT WHERE THIS IS GONNA BE DISCUSSED? I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO STAY WAY ABOVE AND NOT GETTING THE DETAILS.
YOU COULD EXPAND THAT TO INCLUDE IT.
SO NUMBER NINE, JUST ADD THAT FOR THE NUMBER NINE.
NUMBER NINE, ADD THAT AND ON CERTAIN THINGS CAN MAKE NOTES TO ADD ALL THAT.
I WOULD, I WOULD INCLUDE IF IT, YEAH, WHAT ARE WE TALK, WHAT ARE WE DOING? OKAY, SO WE ARE ON THIS LIST OF 87 ON UDO AMENDMENTS OR WHATEVER THAT WE SPEAK TO THE PROCESS FOR HPCI WOULD SAY EIGHT AND NINE.
AND IS IT GETTING INTO THE WEEDS SAYING THAT WE WOULD OR IS IT AT A COUNCIL LEVEL THAT YOU SAY WE REALLY WANT COM, LIKE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS AND WE HAVE SHIP A AND WE HAVE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS THAT COULD COME TO THE TABLE TO DISCUSS IT.
DO WE NEED TO BE THAT CLEAR IN THIS? UM, I DON'T THINK YOU NECESSARILY NEED TO BE THAT CLEAR WITH THAT.
I MEAN, I CAN WRITE THOSE NOTES, BUT I THINK WHAT THIS IS MEANT TO IS WE'VE HEARD STAFF'S HEARD WE'RE HERE, THAT YOU WANT US TO WORK ON THAT.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS TO INCLUDE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND THEN WE CAN PUT ALL OF THAT TOGETHER, LIKE WORKSHOP IT AT A COUNCIL OR HOWEVER YOU WANT US TO DO IT.
BUT I MEAN, IF IT'S, IF IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH AND YOU WANNA MAKE SURE IT SHOWS UP ON THERE, IT'S, WE CERTAINLY CAN ADD IT, BUT, UM, WE, I'VE GOT IT ON MY NOTES HERE.
NO, IT'S NOT UNLESS WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT VETS THOSE STAKEHOLDERS.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T ON ONE SIDE ARGUE FOR PRESERVATION.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE ARGUE TO REMOVE STRUCTURES THAT SHOULD BE PRESERVED.
SO LIKE IT HAS TO BE A, A PROCESS THAT WE CREATE SOME TYPE OF SEMBLANCE.
THEY ARE NOT LEANING TO ANYONE'S SIDE.
NO, BUT WE NEED THE EXPERT ADVICE OF THEM.
YOU STILL WANT TO, YOU STILL WANT TO, YOU KNOW, VET IT SO THAT NO ONE
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CAN COME IN AND LIKE ARBITRARILY OVERTAKE THAT PROCESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.RIGHT? YEAH, WE NEED TO JUST ADVISES.
HEATHER, HOW DOES THIS WORK IF I DO THIS? YEP.
AND JUST LEAVE IT BLANK FOR THE REST OF THE, THAT WORKS.
SO THEN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A PLACE FOR IT.
WHEN YOU SEE THE FINAL DRAFT, IT'LL BE INCLUDED, BUT YOU'LL KNOW THAT IT'S HERE.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CAN YOU SAY SOMETHING? LET'S NOT RO SMITH EVERYTHING.
OKAY, SO LET'S, WE WON'T SHOULD WE WANT WHERE?
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DAY OF THE YEAR.
ANY ANY QUESTIONS? SO THIS IS DRAFT.
WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A BIG DRAFT ON THERE.
ANY ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? IT ALL LOOKS GOOD.
DID I HEAR LOWER? LOWER? ROLLING.
REMIND ME BROWN AGAIN, STEVEN, WHILE THEY'RE BROWN IS CONTINUOUS.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I NEED.
THEY'RE SAYING THEY, THEY'VE BEEN ON THERE FOR FIVE STRATEGIC PLANS AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP 'EM WALKING.
AND BRIDGET, TO GO BACK, YOU'LL LOOK AT NUMBER 16 VERSUS WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A SPECIFIC THANK YOU.
I KNEW IT WAS IN THERE, I JUST COULDN'T REMEMBER WHERE.
ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNIT OR ALTERNATIVE DWELLING UNIT.
OR ADDING, YEAH, ADDING, ADDING DWELLING UNIT.
SO WE'RE UP TO, UM, WE'VE GOT 16 THROUGH 18 ON THE SCREEN.
ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN? COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE 2019 UP TO 22 AND AGAIN BACK 22 WENT AWAY.
WAIT, GO BACK TO, YOU CAN PUT ONE UP THERE.
YEAH, WE ALWAYS TALK BUT NEVERMIND.
UM, EXPLORE HOW THE TOWN CAN CONTRIBUTE TO A GOGI HERE QUARTER.
WHAT CAN THAT ALSO INCLUDE, UM, OPTIONS AS WE TALKED ABOUT FOR OVERLAY DISTRICT, INCLUDING AN OVERLAY DISTRICT CONSIDERATION OF AN OVERLAY DISTRICT IN HERE? OR, OR, OR I CAN ADD IT LATER.
I CAN WRITE A NOTE TO ADD IT LATER.
WE'VE GOT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HERE.
SO Y'ALL RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
I'LL LOOK BACK EVERY SO OFTEN.
DOES THAT WORK? COUNCIL MEMBER? OKAY, SO WE'RE NOW, UH, 21 THROUGH 24.
ANYTHING QUESTIONS? ANYTHING WE MISSED? I
LOOKS LIKE WE'RE, OH, YOU'RE MOVED TO, WHERE ARE WE? OKAY, SO HE'S AT 25, 26 AND 27.
27 7 DEALS WITH, UM, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND HOW WE'RE GONNA CLOSE 'EM OUT.
'CAUSE OUR FIRST ONE'S COMING UP IN 24 UNLESS IT GETS EXTENDED.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS HOW THEY'RE GONNA CLOSE OUT, HOW THE ZONING ADDRESS, WHAT HAPPENS WITH ANY REMAINING UDO OR DEVELOPMENT, UM, RIGHTS OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO WE'RE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, UM, IN SOME OF OUR LEGAL BIWEEKLY LEGAL MEETINGS
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ON HOW WE'RE ON STARTING TO WORK TOWARDS THAT.SO WE NEED TO PUT A PLAN IN PLACE.
AND, AND MAYBE BRING AWARENESS TO US WHICH ONE, ONCE WE'RE AWARE HOW FAR OUT THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST AN UPDATE SO THAT YOU'RE TAB FIVE.
IF YOU SAY IF THEY, IF THEY'RE EXTENDED, ALL OF THEM HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXTENDED TO THE LIMIT, RIGHT? NO, THERE'S MORE.
THE STATE COULD A MANDATORY EXTEND IT.
THEY MIGHT EXTEND IT 'CAUSE OF COVID, RIGHT? WE HAVEN'T HEARD THAT YET.
THEY MAY ALSO COME TO COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE MUTUALLY EXTEND IT.
WE WANNA MUTUALLY EXTEND IT BY TWO YEARS BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO FINISH EVERYTHING OUT.
AND THEY COULD BE EXTENDED THAT WAY.
BUT KNOWING THAT THEY'RE COMING UP AT LEAST THE FIRST ONE, FIRST COUPLE ARE IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'VE GOT A PLAN IN PLACE ON HOW TO HANDLE 'EM AS THEY EXPIRE.
WELL, WOULD THAT STEVEN COME TO STAFF OR WOULD IT COME TO COUNCIL? COME TO COUNCIL? ANY EXTENSION WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH.
EVERYTHING THAT'S IN HERE, ULTIMATELY WE'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT THE HOW AND WE'RE GONNA BRING THAT TO Y'ALL TO APPROVE.
AND, AND YOU DID ALLUDE TO IT'S TAB FOUR IN YOUR BINDER IS ALL OF THAT DEVELOPMENT SIX TAB? I'M SORRY, TAB SIX.
UM, ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT INFORMATION THAT WE PULL TOGETHER IS IN THERE AS FAR AS LIKE THE DATES THAT IT'S GOING TO EXPIRE UNLESS THE STATE EXTENDS IT FURTHER.
AND THEN ALL THE RDUS AND ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU GET ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAT I'LL PRESENT TO YOU IN JANUARY.
BUT ALL THAT'S IN YOUR BINDERS TOO.
SO DO THEY GO TO THE STATE AND ASK FOR AN EXTENSION BEFORE THEY COME TO US? NO.
SO WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO IS WHEN THE STATE, WHEN THE ECONOMY HAD THEIR BACK IN 2008? NO, IT'S 10 AND 13.
SO THEY, THEY PUT AN EXTENSION, THEY BASICALLY STOPPED THE CLOCK ON ALL PERMITS BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY.
THEN THEY ALSO STOPPED IT AGAIN FOR C-O-V-I-D BUT NOT FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, FOR OTHER PERMITS.
SO IT'S JUST UP TO THE STATE AND THEN WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
SO YEAH, BECAUSE IT, IT HAPPENED IN EIGHT, BUT I THINK 10 IS WHEN IT TAKES TWO YEARS FOR THE STATE TO DECIDE.
SO THE STATE COULD STATEWIDE SAY YOU HAVE TO EXTEND ALL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BY TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS, WHATEVER.
SO THE STATE WOULD'VE TO DO THAT FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST THESE PARTICULAR.
WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT SOMETHING THERE THAT SAYS PROBABLY UNDER CONTRACT THAT WE'RE BUYING, WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT IN SOMETHING ABOUT ACQUISITION
OH, I DIDN'T GIVE THE WARNING.
CHUCK WILL FIGURE THAT ONE OUT.
WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S GONNA BE A LIVING DOCUMENT TOO BECAUSE WE, WE MIGHT CHANGE OUR MIND TWO YEARS FROM NOW, YOU KNOW, OR COUNSEL.
WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, STEVEN, YOU'LL DETERMINE THROUGH THIS WHAT'S ONGOING.
YOU MIGHT DECIDE THAT THAT'S ONGOING THING.
SO WILL YOU DECIDE THAT? IT MAY, IT MAY BE NEW FOR THIS ONE, BUT AS WE GET BACK IN TWO YEARS, THAT MAY BECOME ONE OF THESE GREEN ONES THAT, OR THE BROWN ONES THAT WE JUST KEEP IN HERE BECAUSE UNTIL COUNCIL TELLS US IT'S NO LONGER A PRIORITY THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON, WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT IN HERE.
ON THAT CHANGE, UM, MOVING UP.
THE REST OF THESE AGAIN ARE CARRY OVER NEXT.
UM, THOSE CROSSWALKS,
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWERS ARE, BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN EVEN CONTINUOUSLY SEE THAT THE SIGNS THAT STAND UP SAYS YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T.
SOME PEOPLE SAY YOU CAN GET 'EM IN SOME STATES WHERE THIS SAYS STOP TO YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS INSTEAD OF YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS.
UM, AND THEN A LOT OF 'EM ARE KNOCKED OVER AND TORN UP AND YOU KNOW, SO AGAIN, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWERS ARE, BUT AS WE GROW, WE HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE, WE, WE BUILD A WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE ALREADY INTO THAT, RIGHT? WITH, WITH CONSTRUCTION WE'VE ALREADY, AND IT SAYS ONGOING OR CARRY.
WELL THAT JUST MEANS IT'S NOT ALL GONNA BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE MIGHT HAVE FUNDING AND START IT, BUT IT'S GONNA CONTINUE ON BEYOND THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
THAT'S IN THE DESIGN PHASE FOR NOW, RIGHT? YES.
Y'ALL, Y'ALL APPROVE THE CONTRACT FOR THE, TO DO ALL THE STUDY AND START DESIGNING, RIGHT? AND WHAT WILL COME OUT OF THAT WILL BE PROJECTS THAT BECOME MORE DEFINITIVE.
CIP PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GONNA ACCOMPLISH.
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BILLING, COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE, 31 THROUGH 35.ANYTHING WE'VE MISSED? QUESTIONS? UM, I, I THINK I'D GO ON 30 AND MAYBE AND JUST TELL ME, BUT HOW DO WE TRANSITION THAT FROM OUR CURRENT WELCOME CENTER TO THIS AND KEEP THE LEFT AND HISTORIC FOUNDATION ENGAGED IN OUR PARTNERS? ARE, ARE WE GONNA GET TO THAT? SO THAT'S WHAT OOPS, SORRY.
I ACTUALLY TURNED IT UP A LITTLE BIT WHERE IT SAYS PLAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, IS WE'RE GONNA PUT TOGETHER THE PLAN ON THAT TRANSITION, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT THE WELCOME CENTER IS GONNA LOOK LIKE, WHETHER, UM, WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH HISTORIC PLAN, BLUFFTON FOUNDATION TO DO THE DOCENT OR WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S TALKING ABOUT CONTINUE TO PLAN FOR THE COMPONENTS AND THE, AND THE FUNCTIONS.
'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA DO WITH THE OPERATIONS.
SO WE WANT TO, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING OF THAT.
SO ANYTHING THAT WE COME OUTTA THERE THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK TO Y'ALL.
WHETHER IT'S FOR POSITIONS OR ESTABLISHING HOURS AND POLICIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO WE'RE GONNA BRING THAT BACK TO Y'ALL.
BUT IF WE'RE PLANNING ON PARTNERING WITH THEM, I THINK THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT TOO.
SO THEY'RE NOT PLANNING CORRECT UNTIL WE KNOW ALL THAT WE, THAT THAT'S PART OF THIS WHY THIS IS BEING THE NEXT ONE.
'CAUSE WE GOTTA FIGURE ALL THAT OUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, THAT WEBSITE UPDATE, WE'RE NOT GETTING IN THE DETAILS, BUT I KNOW I'VE TOLD YOU OVER AND OVER THE RIVER AND HISTORIC DISTRICT ARE HARD TO FIND AND I SEE YOU HAVE AN UPDATE, BUT IT INCLUDES FOCUS ON THOSE TWO.
MAKING IT MORE USER FRIENDLY IN GENERAL.
WE'RE GOING TO ECONOMIC GROWTH.
AND I, I WANNA POINT OUT THE FIRST ITEM ON ECONOMIC GROWTH, UH, DEALS WITH THE WHOLE DISCUSSION WE HAD ON LOCAL, UH, ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND BUSINESSES UNDER, UNDER THE, UH, EARLIER DISCUSSION THIS MORNING.
SO WE'VE GOT, WE'RE DOWN TO 41 ON THIS.
ANYTHING THAT WE'VE MISSED OR QUESTIONS? COUNSEL, WELCOME.
I DON'T THINK IT ADDRESSES WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING.
IT'S ALSO TO ENCOURAGE, I MEAN, REALLY A FOCUS ON OUR CURRENT LOCAL BUSINESSES NOT SUPPORTING, NOT HELP MORE BUSINESSES, BUT INCLUDE THE BUSINESSES WE HAVE.
RIGHT? AND THAT WAS, YEAH, IT'S LIKE GIVING THEM A, A SUPPORT ARM IN A SENSE.
TO ADD SOMETHING BEYOND THAT TO SAY, UM, START SUPPORT OUR EXISTING BUSINESSES AND ASSIST IN GROWTH? I MEAN, I'M ALL ABOUT MORE BUSINESSES, BUT IF THE BUSINESSES WE HAVE ARE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, IF YOU CAN WORD IT IN SOME WAY TO INCLUDE THEM.
SO, SO I THINK, I THINK IT'S ADDRESSED BY HELPING MORE BUSINESSES GROW.
I MEAN IT'S WORDED SO IT SOUNDS WEIRD, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S SAYING.
MAYBE, I MEAN, WE CAN GET INTO WORDSMITHING, BUT I THINK IT'S SAYING THAT MORE BUSINESSES GROW, NOT GROW BUSINESS.
MORE
EARN AND GROWTH DONE HELPS THEM TO GROW.
SO, SO HOW LONG DO THEY STAY WITH, WITH, WITH THE, ONE OF THE, A NEWLY ESTABLISHED BUSINESS? UH, IS IT, IS THE GROWTH TWO, ONE OR TWO YEARS PROGRAM? OUR STARTUP IS TYPICALLY A YEAR.
UM, SOMETIMES IT GOES LONGER WHEREAS GROWTH IS, YOU NEED PROBABLY NEED TO, I CAN'T EVEN SEE TRACY ENOUGH.
YOU NEED TO TALK IN THAT MICROPHONE.
IS SHE MOVED AWAY FROM THE TABLE?
UM, RIGHT NOW WITH UH, BLOCK IN'S GROWTH, UM, OUR GROWTH PROGRAM HAS INCREASED AS WELL.
WE FOUND THAT EXISTING BUSINESSES OUR BOOMING, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THAT.
SO THEY'VE COME TO THE DON RYAN CENTER FOR THAT HELP WITH THE GROWTH OF THEIR BUSINESS AND HOW TO HANDLE THAT.
SO I DON'T, I MEAN
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THOSE, EVEN THOUGH THEIR EXISTING BUSINESSES WOULD PROBABLY BE IN OUR STARTUP PROGRAM AND THEY WOULD BE IN THAT PROGRAM LONGER.AND TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF, UM, COUNCILMAN HAMILTON, WHO I KNOW ALSO WANTS TO BE OUT HERE ON TIME, UM, WHILE WE HAVE THE DOWNRIGHT CENTER UP, I SAW SOMEWHERE EARLIER WHERE IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT, UM, THEIR KPIS.
SO KIND OF LIKE A METRIC OF HOW WE ARE, UM, MEASURING THE SUCCESS OF THESE BUSINESSES AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
UM, 39, NUMBER 39, I WOULD LIKE TO NOT ONLY SEE THAT, BUT WHEN AND HOW OFTEN ARE WE REVISITING IT? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN TOUTED TO BEEN A, HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE PROGRAM THAT HAVE, UM, SINCE FOLDED AND SOME EVEN COMMUNICATED, UM, THE WAYS IN WHICH THEY WERE FOLDED.
IT WAS ALMOST LIKE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY GUIDANCE IN THAT.
THE, THE TOWN WIDE KPI DASHBOARD IS NOW LIVE ON THE WEBSITE AND, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS GIVE QUARTERLY UPDATES TO THOSE.
AND SO THOSE KPIS FOR DRCI IN ARE IN THERE.
SO YOU CAN LOOK EVERY QUARTER, UH, OF THE YEAR.
THEY'RE UPDATED AND REPOSTED TO THE WEBSITE NOW.
AND I BELIEVE, WHAT'S THE, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THE, UH, SUCCESS RATE, DO YOU RECALL OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? THAT'S A 76% SUCCESS RATE FOR FIVE YEARS.
WHICH THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS MUCH LOWER THAN THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW MUCH LOWER.
I I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S MUCH LOWER.
THE OTHER THING IS IF WHERE WE SAY REVISIT THE KPI MODELS, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE'RE NOT TRACKING WITH OUR CURRENT KPIS THAT WE NEED TO, WE CAN GO BACK AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AMENDING THOSE KPIS TO MAKE SURE IF IT'S SAYING, HEY, I SEE YOU'RE CAPTURING THIS, BUT WE WANNA ALSO SEE THIS, WE CAN INCLUDE THAT INTO OUR KPIS THAT WE'RE MEASURING FOR DRCI.
RIGHT? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO JUST, YOU KNOW, CHECK A BOX AS WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.
I KNOW SOME HAVE, YOU KNOW, GRAPPLE WITH UNDERSTANDING REALLY THE, THE BENEFIT AND KIND OF THE SUCCESSES OF DON RYAN AND AS WE'RE ALL AMBASSADORS OF IT, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M A STEWARD OF THAT TOO.
UM, SO MY QUESTION STILL IS LIKE, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THOSE BUSINESSES THAT, THAT DON'T MAKE IT KNOWING THAT BUSINESSES TAKE A RISK ANYWAYS.
BUT THE ONES THAT DON'T MAKE IT AND HAVE BEEN IN THE PROGRAM AND ARE SAYING THAT I DID NOT GET ANY TYPE OF, OF HELP OR ASSISTANCE.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE, WE ARE BEING COUNTERPRODUCTIVE IF WE'RE TOUTING A PROGRAM THAT ISN'T, ISN'T REALLY ASSISTING THOSE.
SO, UM, I MEAN THAT'S A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION, BUT I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UH, EVERY SIX MONTHS WE HAVE DAVID COME TO YOU ALL TO PRESENT, UH, WHERE HE IS AT ON KPIS AS WELL AS WHAT'S GOING ON, UH, AT DRCI AND BUSINESSES THAT HE IS CURRENTLY ASSISTING.
UM, AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS IS A GENERAL STATEMENT AND IT'S PROBABLY TRUE TO BUSINESSES LOCALLY THAT DO NOT, UH, SUCCEED.
IT'S, UH, ONE OF THE MOST HIGHEST THERE'S, WELL THE TWO HIGHEST REASONS WHY BUSINESSES FAIL IS ONE IS WHATEVER THEY'RE TRYING TO DO OR PRO PROMOTE, THERE WASN'T ENOUGH DEMAND FOR IT.
SO, AND THEN I KNOW DAVID WORKS WITH BUSINESSES REALLY, UH, A LOT ON THE FRONT END ON CLARIFYING THAT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CREATE IS TRULY THERE'S A DEMAND FOR IT.
SO THEY DO THAT MARKET ANALYSIS WITH 'EM, ET CETERA.
UM, BUT THE SECOND BIGGEST REASON IS, UH, THEY RUN OUT OUT OF FUNDING.
AND WE RECOGNIZE AT DRCI, THAT'S STILL AN AREA WHERE WE STRUGGLE TO PROVIDE RESOURCE RESOURCES TO BUSINESSES TO ACCESS DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISMS. MM-HMM.
UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT AT THEIR BOARD MEETINGS AND ARE INCORPORATING INTO THEIR, TO THEIR EFFORTS.
SO AS WE'RE TAKING, UH, AS HEARING WHAT Y'ALL ARE SAYING, WOULD IT NEED, DO YOU THINK IT CAN FIT UNDERNEATH 36 FOR US TO ADD SOMETHING LIKE DO, UM, ALMOST LIKE DEBRIEFINGS OR FOLLOW UP WITH ONES THAT DON'T SUCCEED TO GET INPUT AND, AND SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO BE BETTER OR ADDRESS NEEDS LIKE THAT? UM, 'CAUSE THAT CAN BE PART OF WHERE WE TALK ABOUT OUR PROGRAM OFFERINGS TO START AND GROW.
WE CAN ALSO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE AS TO LIKE, WORK WITH THOSE THAT DON'T SUCCEED OR REACH OUT WITH THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY AND DO LIKE, FOLLOW UP AND DEBRIEFS FROM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING WHATEVER THAT THOSE ISSUES MAY BE.
UM, WHAT I DON'T LIKE, UM, CHRIS, IS THAT OUR PROGRAM, THE, THE, THE STARTUP OR THE INCUBATOR TYPE PROGRAM ALLOWS SOMEONE TO GET A PRODUCT THAT IS NOT GONNA MEET THE DEMAND IN OUR AREA.
SO, SO AT THE BEGINNING THERE'S A LONG CONVERSATION WITH GRCI STAFF AS WELL AS THE, THE ENTREPRENEUR WHO HAS THE IDEA.
AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY MAY SHIFT THEM INTO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAT THERE TRULY IS DEMAND FOR.
AND IN SOME CASES WHERE, UH, A POTENTIAL ENTREPRENEUR IS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT SOMETHING AND THE STAFF
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DETERMINES THAT THERE REALLY ISN'T A, UH, A, UH, DEMAND OR IT'S A GOOD FIT.IN SOME CASES YOU SAY, WELL, MAYBE WE'RE NOT REALLY A GOOD FIT FOR SUPPORTING YOU.
UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LIMITED NUMBER OF RESOURCES.
WE ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF STAFF THERE THAT COULD, AND THEY CURRENTLY HAVE WHAT, 16 OR THEY AVERAGE ABOUT 16 BUSINESSES ON A, AT ANY GIVEN POINT, WHICH IS A LOT OF ENTREPRENEURS WHO SUPPORT GIVEN OUR STAFFING.
WELL, CHRIS, THE, THE ONLY THING I CAN SEE UP, AND I DIDN'T SEE IT THERE, BUT ONE THING THAT I'VE OFTEN ASKED FOR AND, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR, AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR, IS HOW MANY GRADUATED BUSINESSES ARE CONTRIBUTING TO OUR TAX BASE IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON? NOT HOW MANY WE GOT THROUGH, BUT HOW MANY ARE ACTUALLY OPEN AND CONTRIBUTING TO OUR TAX BASE THEY PUT IN RED.
AND BEFORE WE BRING EVERYTHING FOR COUNCIL TO ADOPT, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT LANGUAGE AND MAKE SURE IT'S REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE ALREADY DOING SURVEYS ON SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES.
WE ARE, AND UH, DAVID OFTEN INCORPORATES THAT IN THE PRESENTATIONS THAT HE GIVES.
SO YEAH, I DIDN'T, IF WE THOUGH AND TALK ABOUT MAYBE DOING SOME CONTINUOUS CHECK-INS AFTER, YOU KNOW, THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS AND MAKE SURE DOING SOME STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT AGAIN, THAT'S, WE'LL PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER.
BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE TO CAPTURE STORIES.
NON-SUCCESS THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IF IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS, WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S PART OF OUR PROGRAM.
UM, ANYMORE IN THE ECONOMIC AREA.
WE'RE MOVING NOW TO, UH, FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY, THE FOCUS AREA.
AND WE'RE STARTING AT WHAT PROJECT? 42 2.
ANYTHING THAT, ANY QUESTIONS? ANYTHING? WE RIGHT COUNSEL? OKAY.
SORRY, MA'AM WAS TRYING TO GIVE EVERYONE ALL THE WORDS IN 43.
YOU HAVE
I WANT, UM, HOW YOU, UH, GOING TO MONITOR THAT? YEAH, SO THIS IS, AND WE, WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS OR UM, HEATHER DID AS PART OF THE FEE STUDY IN THE LAST BUDGET PROCESS.
BUT IT'S REALLY, UM, WHEN WE ARE VALUING OUR FACILITY RENTALS, ESPECIALLY, 'CAUSE WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT FACILITIES THAT'LL BE COMING ONLINE, YOU KNOW, RIVER RIVERSIDE, BARN PARK, PARK FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, THAT WE'RE APPROPRIATELY CHARGING DIFFERENT, UM, TYPES OF PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWN.
SO YOU HAVE NONPROFITS, OBVIOUSLY WHO OWN AND SUPPORT NONPROFITS AND THE USE OF OUR FACILITIES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, BUT THEN FOR FOR PROFIT ENTITIES, YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO CHARGE THEM MORE OF A MARKET RATE FOR USE OF OUR FACILITIES.
OR IF THEY ARE, UH, INDIVIDUALS WHO AREN'T TAXPAYERS OF OF THE TOWN, YOU'RE GONNA WANNA CHARGE THEM MORE OF A MARKET RATE TO, FOR USE OF OUR FACILITIES.
WHEREAS IF THEIR RESIDENTS OF TOWN AND THEIR TAXPAYERS SUPPORT TAX DOLLAR SUPPORT THE CREATION OF THESE FACILITIES, THEY WOULDN'T PAY THAT FULL MARKET RATE.
AND JUST CREATING MORE EQUITY IN THAT BASED ON HOW THEY ARE RELATED WITH THE TOWN AND WHAT THEY PROVIDE.
WHICH IS, WHICH IS ALSO WHERE YOU SEE THE NEXT ONE WITH FIGURING OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA HANDLE THE BARN WHEN IT COMES ONLINE.
I REMEMBER, UM, NON-PROFIT AND, AND, AND
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LOCAL, LOCAL, UH, TAXPAYERS.WE, WE, WE ALWAYS WANTED TO TRY TO BREAK EVEN.
THAT'S, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THING THAT WE SAID WE DON'T WANT TO, UH, TO NECESSARILY TAX THEM OUT OF USING THE FACILITIES.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERNS OF SOME NON-PROFITS WHO ARE MAKING PROFITS AND THEY'RE USING PROFITABLE NON-PROFITS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE TAKING AWAY SOME OF OUR FACILITIES FROM OUR KIDS AND OTHER FAMILIES.
WE WANT TO GO FOR A PICNIC OR WHATEVER.
AND IT'S, THEY'RE DISGUISING IT BY GIVING AWAY A SMALL AMOUNT TO A NONPROFIT, A SMALL AMOUNT OF THEIR PROFIT TO A NONPROFIT.
SO WE KNOW THAT'S GOING ON SO WE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT DEEPER.
COUNSEL ANYMORE, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ANYTHING WE MISS BEFORE WE MOVE TO INFRASTRUCTURE? GO TO JUST AT 50 FOR A MINUTE.
CHAD STOPPED WHEN THEY WERE TALKING.
WE'RE, WE'RE DONE WITH GOT IT.
UM, WE HAVE OVER 30 PROJECTS AND, UH, A NUMBER OF THOSE ARE, ARE GONNA BE CONTINUING AS YOU ARE CARRY FORWARD PROJECTS.
BUT WE'LL START OUT WITH THE 54.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF OF THESE? NOW THESE ARE ALL THE, WE'RE GETTING INTO THE CARRY OVER WHICH YOU'RE IN THE GREEN.
I IT'S HARDER FOR ME TO READ THAT GREEN BACKGROUND ONES.
HOW MANY OF THESE ARE ONES THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN IN THERE SOME FOR TWO THREE.
YOU GUYS INTRODUCED ME TO THE PHRASE DONUT.
AND I HEARD YESTERDAY THAT THE DONUT HOLES ARE CLOSING TRYING TO, TRYING TO AT SOME, SOME POINT AND THROUGH SOME OF THIS STUFF, IT'S BEEN INTERESTING TO PROBLEMS THAT YOU IDENTIFIED WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS ARE ARE SHRINKING OR IT, IT'S BEEN MUCH OVER TIME.
I THINK THIS IS THE PLACE WE, MY BRAIN NOW,
WE HAD TO SUE A UTILITY COMPANY 'CAUSE THEY DID NOT PAY THEIR TRA THEIR FRANCHISE FEES.
AND WE'VE BEEN HOLDING ON TO WHAT I THINK WAS ABOUT ALMOST A MILLION $700,000.
YET WE ALL CAN'T AGREE TO MOVE FORWARD ON CALHOUN STREET STREETSCAPE 'CAUSE THAT'S BEEN CARRIED OVER FOR LIKE 20 YEARS.
IS IT A PLACE FOR COUNCIL TO DISCUSS AT SOME POINT, CAN WE MOVE THAT MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE AND SPEND THIS MONEY BEFORE DOMINION SELLS TO WHOEVER? WELL, CALHOUN STREET STREETSCAPE, I, IF I'M PAT YOU CAN PROBABLY ADDRESS THIS BETTER, BUT I THINK FOR THE MAJORITY OF, NO, THAT'S BOUNDARY BOUNDARY.
WE CAN DO A LOT OF IT WITHOUT NEEDING DOMINION.
BUT CALHOUN, WE HAVE TO HAVE DOMINION INVOLVED, RIGHT? OH, BOTH OF 'EM.
WE NEED DOMINION'S COOPERATION TO FINISH THE DESIGN OF THOSE PROJECTS.
I THINK BLAKELY LEFT OR WE COULD HAVE WE, BUT, BUT DAN MENTIONED AT THE, UM, WORKSHOP LAST WEEK THAT HE THOUGHT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE BOUNDARY STREET STREETSCAPE BECAUSE IT'S LESS COMPLICATED.
UM, WHERE IS THAT 700,000 WHATEVER DOLLAR GOING.
I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO GET IT OUT THERE BEFORE NEW PEOPLE COME AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN, REMEMBER WE WON THIS LAWSUIT.
SHOULD WE STAY FOCUSED ON CALHOUN STREET STREETSCAPE WHEN WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOREVER? OR IS IT A WAY TO MOVE THAT MONEY TO DOING SOMETHING AND GETTING IT 700,000 MADE ME NOTHING SOON.
SO, WELL, I DON'T THINK IT WAS A CASH SETTLEMENT EITHER THAT THEY AGREED TO DO THAT MUCH WORK PUTTING POWER UNDERGROUND.
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I AGREE WITH THAT.SHOULD WE PUT IT ON A, SHOULD Y'ALL TALK ABOUT ANOTHER PROJECT? I THOUGHT WE HAD CALHOUN STREET COMING UP IN NEXT.
WELL IT'S NOT JUST CALHOUN STREET, IT'S CALHOUN AND BOUNDARY AND A LOT OF THE OTHER GHOST ROADS.
IT'S ALL THE UNDERGROUNDING OF UTILITY IS TIED INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THAT YOU'RE PAYING, THAT YOU'RE CREDITING US FOR THAT THE CREDITS WILL GO TOWARDS.
WAS DEGREE, CAN WE GET AN UPDATE ON HOW MUCH OF THAT'S BEEN SPENT? UH, NONE OF IT'S BEEN SPENT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANY OF THE UNDERGROUNDING SO FAR IN OLD TOWN.
BUT THAT, BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, THAT'S THE EASEMENT SITUATION, CORRECT? RIGHT.
SO THE, THE GOAL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS AS WE'RE DIGGING THE ROADS UP, WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT ONCE.
SO WE'RE WANTING TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE ARE, LIKE WE DID RIDGE STREET, WE WENT AHEAD AND PUT STORMWATER IN THERE.
'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND WORRY ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE AFTER WE DO A STREETS SCAPE.
SO WHEN WE DO BOUNDARY IN CALHOUN, WHILE WE HAVE IT UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET STORMWATER, UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, EVERYTHING IN THERE.
SO WHEN IT'S DONE, WE DON'T HAVE TO CUT THE ROAD.
WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO ANY OF THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY THE UNDERGROUNDING OF UTILITIES HAS HELPED SLOW THOSE PROJECTS DOWN BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED THEIR DESIGN SO WE CAN IMPLEMENT THEIR DESIGN INTO THE PROJECT.
IT'S JUST EVOLVED FOR 15 YEARS.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WENT TO CALHOUN STREET AND THEN EVERYONE WAS SCARED TO CARRY THE POWER LINES ON CALHOUN STREET 'CAUSE OF THE COST OF THE OWNERS.
AND I I DIDN'T KNOW WE USED ANY OF THIS MONEY.
THE MONEY IS STILL SITTING THERE TO COVER THE UNDERGROUNDING OF UTILITIES.
LET, LET ME, LET ME MAKE AN OBSERVATION ON THAT.
AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, PAT, UM, STAFF DID NOT STAFF PRIOR TO STEVEN DID NOT WANT TO BURY THOSE LINES.
AND UM, YOU MAY RECALL I GOT WITH STAFF BEFORE THEY LEFT AND RODE THE AREA AND SAID THIS IS DOABLE.
UM, BUT REGARDLESS WE NEEDED TO GET AN EASEMENT ACQUISITION OR WHICH WE JUST DID MAYBE THIS YEAR.
SO THAT HAS SLOWED THE WHOLE PROCESS DOWN.
IT'S NOT JUST THE EASEMENTS FROM DOMINION THAT ARE NEEDED, IT'S THE EASEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO DO THE STREETSCAPE PROJECTS.
SO TODAY TAKING ANOTHER STEP, WHAT HAPPENS IS WHAT HE JUST SAID, THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION, DIGGING UP THE STREETS AND EVERYTHING, IT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED FOR STORM WATER UTILITIES, NOT JUST ELECTRIC.
EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T REMOVE THE OVERHEAD POWER LINES RIGHT NOW, YOU STILL HAVE ALL THOSE ISSUES, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY HOLDING A WHOLE LOT MORE UP RIGHT NOW.
THE DOMINION IS, AND I'LL JUST BE OPEN ABOUT IT, THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH.
UM, THEY DON'T WANT TO, THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THEIR DESIGN, WHICH WHEN THEY COULD TO COMPLIMENT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT THE TOWN LEVEL.
BUT REGARDLESS, I'M SAYING EVEN IF THEY'RE OFF THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE STILL GONNA BE DEALING WITH THESE SAME EASEMENT ACQUISITION ISSUES AND THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GONNA BE INVOLVED.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S REALLY PUTTING US OFF THAT MUCH.
THE, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT'S SHOWN ITSELF OUT OF THIS, AND THIS IS WHAT PAT WAS JUST REFERENCING, IS THE FACT THAT CALHOUN WILL BE MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE THAT IS THE PRIMARY AREA WHERE THE BUSINESSES ARE LOCATED.
THEY HAVE, YOU HAVE MORE BUSINESSES ON CALHOUN STREET, WHICH IS OUR MAIN STREET.
SO THAT MEANS IT'S LENT ITSELF BETTER TO MAYBE GO AHEAD AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND MOVE OVER TO BOUNDARY BEFORE CALHOUN STREET BECAUSE CALHOUN'S MORE COMPLICATED FOR ALL THE REASONS I JUST OUTLINED.
I JUST WORRY THAT EVERYONE'S GONNA FORGET WE HAVE THAT CREDIT
WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE TRACKING IT AND IT'S A LEGAL SETTLEMENT THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE THERE FOR.
SO NO MATTER WHO OWNS IT, NO MATTER WHO, YEAH.
WHETHER IT'S S SE IT WENT FROM SE AND G TO DOMINION THERE.
THAT'S A, A LEGAL OBLIGATION THAT THEY'RE THERE.
I ANYMORE OR DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE? WE'VE ALREADY MOVED ON.
NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OH, THERE AGAIN.
FACILITIES THE SECONDARY, BUT CHIEF YOU HAVE AI.
I THINK AT SOME POINT WE ALL NEED TO GRASP AND EMBRACE AND UNDERSTAND HOW AI CAN BE GOOD FOR US
I KNOW EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT IT NOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
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QUESTION ON AI PERIOD.I THINK YOU ALREADY SUPPORTING IT.
NO, BUT I JUST UNDERSTAND YOU UNDERSTAND IT.
THAT'S ACTUALLY MORE, IT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND IT MORE.
AND, AND PART OF THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD IS TO FIGURE OUT, THERE'S A BALANCE BETWEEN BEING ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE IT AND BENEFIT FROM IT, BUT ALSO BEING RESPONSIBLE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T PUT THE TOWN AT RISK OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO, UM, THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION TRACY AND I HAVE HAD AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE WORKING TOWARDS.
AND WHAT WE'RE ALSO GONNA SEE IS A LOT OF THE SOFTWARE WE USE, WE'RE GONNA START IMPLEMENTING AI MORE.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED IF THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO ACCESS ANYTHING OR BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CAMERA SYSTEMS THAT THE CHIEF'S TALKING ABOUT.
THERE'S AI EMBEDDED IN SOME OF THAT, THAT WE'RE BETTER PREPARED TO HANDLE SOME OF THAT COMMENT ON THAT.
UM, WE SEE THE REPORTS AND WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE PUDS A LOT EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GATED.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AI PRINCIPLES, WHAT I THINK WOULD BE NICE, EVEN IF IT'S NOT OUR FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY TO FIND A WAY TO INCORPORATE, IF YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING, OUR COMMUNITIES, IF WE CAN FIND WAYS TO HELP THEM LEARN TO MONITOR THEIR OWN SELVES BETTER, IT MIGHT HELP ELIMINATE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE PREVAILING THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS.
AND I'LL, AND I'LL TELL YOU, OF COURSE THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH A BIDDING PROCESS, BUT ONE CAMERA SYSTEM IN PARTICULAR, HILTON HEAD HAS IT, UH, HARDY HAS IT AND SO DOES SAVANNAH.
AND A LOT OF OUR SUBDIVISIONS ALREADY HAVE THIS.
SO, UH, CAMERA SYSTEM SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND IF WE WERE TO PURCHASE THIS SAME SOFTWARE, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO TIE INTO ALL OF THOSE CAMERAS AS WELL.
UH, WE WOULD GIVE EACH O THEY COULDN'T LOOK AT OURS, BUT THEY COULD GIVE US PERMISSION TO REVIEW THEIRS.
SO RATHER THAN HAVE OUR INVESTIGATORS GO OUT OR WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE REAL TIME CAMERA DATA, IF WE WERE LOOKING FOR A RED CAR WITH A STICKER IN THE BACK OF THE WINDOW, WE COULD TYPE THAT UP AND ANYWHERE IT SHOWED UP ON THE CAMERA, WHETHER IT BE IN A SUBDIVISION OR HEADED DOWN TO SAVANNAH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TRACK IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SAVANNAH
WELL, WE'RE IN, YOU'RE SCARING ME CHIEF.
WE'RE IN A LEASE PROGRAM WITH CAMERAS NOW, RIGHT? WELL THEY, THIS, THIS OFFER WAS ACTUALLY USED TO TRACK A, UM, A KIDNAPPING VICTIM OUT OF HILTON HEAD.
THEY, THEY WERE ABLE TO TYPE IN THE, THE IDENTIFICATION THAT THEY GOT FROM WITNESSES OF THE VEHICLE AND THEY TRACKED IT ALL THE WAY DOWN THE HILTON HEAD AND THEY LO LOCATED THE KID WITHIN 45 MINUTES FROM WHEN HE WAS KIDNAPPED AND ARRESTED.
I THINK I HAVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, BUT IT'S JUST ARTIFICIAL.
I HATE TO TELL YOU IF THAT BOTHERS YOU.
JUST REMEMBER THE PHONE'S TRACKING HIM IN THE CAR MORE THAN THE CAMERAS ARE
WELL, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT'S TRUE.
I THINK IT'S AMAZING FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT BUT S ARE TRACKING YOU NOW TOO.
YOU CAN SCROLL UP, CHECKING OUT ON ME.
UM, ALONG SIGN THE FRONT OF DAN.
WHAT NUMBER ARE YOU ON, DAN? I EXPLAIN, I EXPLAINED TO DAN LATER.
WHAT NUMBER I'M LOOKING AT? 73 AND 74.
YOU KNOW ONE THING MAYOR, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS ALONG WITH OTHERS IN THE COUNTY AT SOME POINT, AND I KNOW A LOT OF IT IS IN THE COUNTY AREA.
UM, AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT THE NEW RIVERSIDE AREA, UH, ON A BIKE PASS SITUATION DOWN TO THE SCENIC HIGHWAY INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE IN SUN CITY WHO USED TO RIDE IN OLD TOWN, UM, YEARS AGO, THEY COULD COME DOWN ALL THE WAY DOWN.
ONE 70 NEW RIVERSIDE COULD JOIN THEM AND THEN THEY COULD COME RIGHT INTO OLD TOWN BLUFFTON.
AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE CRITICAL TO US.
AND THEN I JUST SAW RECENTLY ON THE NEW LINEAR TRAIL, ONE OF OUR REPORTS IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CAME THROUGH AND THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA MANAGE THAT.
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OKAY, WELL IF THAT LINEAR TRAIL.I TOLD STEVEN I HAD VISITED A TOWN LAST WEEK AND THEY HAD A, A CRAZY TRAIL IN MIAMI.
AND IF SOMEHOW WE CAN GET HELP AND CREATE MORE OF A PAVED KIND OF TRAIL, YOU'RE IN LIGHTING, THAT LINEAR TRAIL'S GONNA BE USED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE, RUNNERS AND I, I JUST THINK THE MORE WE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE A FIELD THAT NEEDS MOW, WHICH WE DO MOW 'CAUSE I LOOK, BUT THE MORE ACCESS WE HAVE ON THAT AND WE CAN CONNECT IT TO WHERE WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING IT, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA, AND WE CELEBRATE IT.
I THINK IT WILL BE USED JUST THAT IMPORTANT.
AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, AS WE GROW, WE'RE, WE'RE GROWING OUR COMMUNITY ACTION TEAM AND WE DO HAVE THE FOUR WHEELERS THAT WE CAN USE TO ACCESS THE LINEAR TRAIL AND COUNT THAT AS PART OF THEIR ROUTINE PATROL.
NOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE OUT THERE 24 7, BUT AT LEAST HAVING THAT VISUAL PRESENCE OUT THERE FROM TIME TO TIME WILL HELP.
AND WE HAVE SOME BLUE LIGHT EMERGENCY PHONES THAT ARE IN WITHIN THE BUDGET FOR THE NEW RIVER TRAIL LINEAR TRAIL.
SPEAKING TO YOUR MICROPHONE PLEASE, WE DO HAVE THE UM, UH, THE BLUE LIGHT EMERGENCY PHONES KIND OF IN THE BUDGET FOR NEW RIVER LINEAR TRAIL.
WHAT, LIKE, WHAT'D YOU SEE ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND STUFF? QUESTIONS ON THE NEXT SET? NO QUESTIONS TILL 89.
ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT Y'ALL SEEN? OKAY, I DO HAVE ONE.
I SEE THERE'S A FOCUS ON DRAINAGE AND ALL THAT AND I SAW IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UM, HEATHER, I KNOW WE SPOKE BRIEFLY ABOUT HOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE BUCK ISLAND SIMMONS AREA, UM, RESIDENTS WHO ARE COMING IN ARE BUILDING UP THEIR LOTS AND BUILDING IT UP TO WHERE THE WATER DOESN'T STAY ON THEIR PROPERTIES AND IT'S AFFECTING, UM, LIKE THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS AND CAUSING LIKE HUGE, HUGE ISSUES OF LIKE THE WATER RETENTION THAT SITS IN THEIR YARD.
IS THERE UM, A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT IN THERE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN HOLD THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE DOING THAT ACCOUNTABLE BUT ALSO TO MITIGATE THAT SO THEY'RE NOT DOING IT.
OR THE SOCO IT'LL COME UP A LITTLE LATER, BUT UNDER THE SOCO REWRITE AND EXAMINATION, WE HAVE LOT DRAINAGE PLANS IN THERE AND ALSO OVERALL DRAINAGE PLANS FOR THE WHOLE WATERSHED.
SO DURING THAT SECTION, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY, IF IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S IN OUR UDO, IT MAY COME OUT OF THAT, BUT WHEN WE HAVE OUR UDO EDIT ONE WAY AT THE BEGINNING, WE CAN MAKE THAT A BULLET POINT OF THE DIFFERENT, WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE ALTERNATIVE PROP, UM, UNIT STYLE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE CAN ADD ONE IN THERE ABOUT, UM, STORMWATER REVIEW AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IF WE NEED TO, WE CAN MAKE A BULLET POINT OF THAT AND INCLUDE THAT.
WE'RE IN THE MAY RIVER FIRST ONES GO UP, UP, UP.
THE UM, I KNOW THAT WE ARE INVESTIGATING THE POSSIBILITIES REGARDING THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES AND WE'VE, WE'VE CREATED SOME PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE SCHOOLS, ET CETERA TO DO SOME TESTS.
UM, BUT I DO WANNA SAY AGAIN THAT THE COST TO DO THIS IS GOING TO BE ENORMOUS.
AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA OR, UH, WORTHY OF IT, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT COUNCIL'S GONNA HAVE TO VET THAT CLOSELY.
AND, AND I STILL SUGGEST THAT WE MIGHT EVEN CONSIDER GETTING A SECOND OPINION BEFORE WE JUMP IN WITH BOTH FEET.
'CAUSE WE WERE TALKING, YOU KNOW, IN EXCESS OF 25 TO MAYBE $40 MILLION OVER.
SO I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY OF THAT.
AND, AND, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT
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THAT ALSO.AND LATER ON, A COUPLE DOWN THE, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RESTORATION PROJECTS.
WE'LL LOOK INTO THOSE TWO AT THAT TIME.
SO THAT'S STILL ON THE TABLE EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE 11 IDENTIFIED, WE'RE NOT SURE IF THEY'RE GONNA BE EFFECTIVE ENOUGH OR BANG FOR THE BUCK FOR LESS OPINION, BUT THAT'S ALL GONNA BE LOOKED AT IN THE RESPONSE.
NOW HAVE WHO CAME UP WITH THOSE 11? DID YOUR TEAM COME UP WITH THOSE? THAT WAS PART OF THE MAY, THE 2020 MAY RIVER ACTION PLAN UPDATE THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.
MCCORICK TAYLOR, OUR, UH, CONSULTANTS CAME UP WITH AN 11 AND THE 15 ADDITIONAL ONES THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE MAVE ROOM.
THIS IS THE NEXT SET OF PROJECTS.
WE MOVED TO, WE MOVED TO SUPPER ROAD.
WELL I'M GUESSING 88 IS REALLY WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
BRIDGET STORMWATER REGULATIONS IN THE UDO SITE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT IS THAT 5 25 ACTUALLY AUGUST 1ST OF 24.
IT WILL BE THE FISCAL YEAR 24 25 BUDGET.
SO THAT'LL START JULY ONE OF NEXT YEAR THROUGH.
SO WHEN IT SAYS FISCAL YEAR 25, THAT'D BE STARTING JULY ONE OF 24 THROUGH JUNE OF 25 0 2.
AND THEN WE GET INTO TOWN ORGANIZATION TWO MORE ON MAY, RIVER AND COUNTY ORGANIZATION FOLKS AREA.
UM, STEVEN, I I THINK WE TOUCHED ON THIS AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IN HERE IT WOULD FIT.
MAYBE, MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT, UH, UM, THE, THE, THE SURVEY WE DID TWO YEARS AGO, UM, HE, HE'S TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY SURVEY 'CAUSE IT'S, WE SAID WE WERE GONNA UPDATE IT.
IT NEEDS TO BE IN BUDGET FOR NEXT BUDGET YEAR.
SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO CONTINUE, YEAH, WE PROBABLY NEED TO ADD A, A BULLET POINT HERE TO, TO UM, COMPLETE AND UH, COMPLETE A COMMUNITY SURVEY AND THEN DO COMPARISON BETWEEN ME PERSONALLY, I FELT IT YIELDED A LOT OF INFORMATION AND, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
BUT ALSO, I GUESS MY MAIN QUESTION IS THE, IF WE DO ANOTHER SURVEY, IS IT POSSIBLE TO INCREASE THE SAMPLING SIZE? UM, WE CAN TALK TO THE CONSULTANT WHENEVER THAT COMES IN, BUT I MEAN, AGAIN, THEY TELL US IF WE WANT TO, WHEN WE TELL THEM LIKE WHAT, HOW, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? LIKE THE DEVIATION PLUS OR MINUS THREE OR PLUS OR MINUS 5%.
WHEN WE TELL 'EM HOW DETAILED, HOW CLOSE WE WANT THAT TO BE, THAT REALLY DETERMINES WHAT THEY THINK THEY NEED TO DO AS A SAMPLE SIZE.
WE CAN ALWAYS ASK THEM TO DO MORE.
UM, IT MAY JUST COST US A LITTLE MORE.
SO WE'LL NEED TO BUDGET A LITTLE EXTRA TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DO THAT.
YEAH, THEY, THEY'LL DO AS MUCH AS WE ASK 'EM TO.
OF COURSE THERE'S A PRICE TO IT AND THEY USE THE, YOU KNOW, THEORY OF STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANCE.
SO IT'LL BE AT LIKE 98% STATIST STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANCE WITH THEIR PLUS OR MINUS UH, DEVIATION.
AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT TELLS YOU IS NO MATTER HOW MUCH MORE YOU SURVEY, THE PERCENTAGE RESULTS WILL BE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
SO THEY'LL BE WITHIN THAT PLUS OR MINUS THREE OR WHATEVER.
SO, SO BASICALLY THEY'RE TELLING YOU YOU'RE WASTING YOUR MONEY
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IF YOU GO LARGER IN A SAMPLE SIZE THAT WE USE.POLANSKY WAS WHO DID IT FOR US.
THAT'S THE UM, END OF YOUR PROJECT.
THAT'S ALL YOU'RE GONNA DO? YEAH, ONLY UM, THAT'S ENOUGH.
WELL, I GUESS, I GUESS HOW DOES STAFF, DO YOU HAVE SO MANY CARRYOVERS? ARE THOSE TO PRIORITIES AND THEN YOU WORK ON THE NEXT GROUP? OR HOW DO, HOW CAN IT'S AN AWFUL LOT.
I MEAN WE LIMITED IT YEARS AGO TO 40 ITEMS AND NOW WE'RE AT A 98 AND I KNOW SOME ARE ONGOING, SO SAY 80, 70, WE'RE DOUBLE WHAT WE, WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY THAT WE'RE CARRYING FORWARD, LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE GREEN, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11.
AND YOU'RE TALKING PROBABLY ABOUT 30 OUTTA THESE PROJECTS ARE CARRYING FORWARD FROM THE CURRENT YEAR UNTIL THE NEXT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY UNDERWAY.
AND THEN THE CONTINUOUS ONES, THOSE ARE ONES THAT UNTIL COUNSEL TELLS US TO REMOVE 'EM, WE'RE GONNA KEEP 'EM IN THERE BECAUSE THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEY STAY A FOCUS.
UM, THERE'S A REASON THAT YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THESE, THE COMPLETION DATE IS FISCAL YEAR 26 BECAUSE WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO START 'EM UNTIL FURTHER INTO 25 THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO, THEY'RE GONNA BE BEYOND THAT.
SO WITH SO MANY CARRYING FORWARD, YEAH THEY'RE GONNA CARRY FORWARD INTO 24, 25 AND WE'LL START A LOT IN 24, 25.
BUT YOU'LL SEE A LOT HAVE A TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD ON 'EM.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY, AND I'LL JUST ADD PROJECTS FROM COUNSEL FROM STEVEN
AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT THAT.
THAT'S GONNA MEASURE IT AND MOVE FORWARD.
SO
UM, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A 25, 26 PLAN, THERE ARE A FEW OF THESE ITEMS LIKE THE ONE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THAT HAVE FY 27 SOME, A COUPLE OF THEM HAD AFY 30 I THINK WE PUT ON THERE JUST TO ILLUSTRATE THAT THESE ARE GONNA BE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE YEAR PROJECTS.
SO YOU'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THAT.
SO I THINK THAT NUMBER GETS A CLOSER TO 62 YEARS.
IT DOESN'T START FOR ANOTHER EIGHT MONTHS BECAUSE THIS ACTUALLY WILL GO INTO PLACE FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR STARTING JULY NEXT YEAR.
SO WE'RE STILL IN OUR CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND AGAIN, SOME OF THESE ARE CARRIED FORWARD.
SO SOME OF THEM, LIKE, LIKE THE SPLASH PAD, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED, START OF SUMMER MID, YOU KNOW, BUT IT MAY END UP CARRYING FORWARD TO AUGUST AND IF IT DOES THEN IT'S, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT IN HERE.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THIS IS A PLAN THAT WE CAN, CAN WORK WITH.
BRAD HAD SOMETHING AND IS THIS TOWN COUNCIL DISCUSSION NOW? ARE WE AT ITEM EIGHT, I GUESS? OKAY, GO FOR IT.
UM, TODAY HAS BEEN, UM, I GUESS JUST AS, UM, I ANTICIPATE IS VERY GOOD PRESENTATIONS AND, AND A GOOD, GOOD, UM, INFORMATION.
WHAT I'M EXTREMELY, UM, WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT OUR MAYOR WHO DID MOST OF THE TALKING TODAY,
LIKE SOMEONE WHO DECIDED THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THIS ANYMORE.
SHE HAVE NOT TAKEN HER FOOT OFF THE PEDAL.
AND I WANT EVERYONE TO RECOGNIZE HER HARD WORK AND HER DEDICATION AND HER LOVE FOR THIS COMMUNITY, WHICH, AND HER LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I LEARNED TO APPRECIATE EVEN WHEN I DIDN'T AGREE
SO I'M GONNA DO THIS AGAIN IN DECEMBER, BUT THIS IS THE HER LAST, UM,
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STRATEGIC WORKSHOP.SO I WANT THOSE WHO AGREE WITH ME TO AT LEAST SHAKE HER HAND OR GIVE HER A HUG OR APL A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
I JUST FEEL, I JUST FEEL SORRY FOR THE PERSON VERY WELCOME WHO SITS TO THE RIGHT OF HIM BECAUSE I HAVE A BRUISE ON MY LEFT LEG FROM COUNCIL MEETINGS.
ANY, THIS IS TOWN COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON ANYTHING BUT ABOUT ME.
PLEASE, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO DISCUSS ABOUT THIS DAY? ABOUT, I GOT A FEW THINGS SINCE I DID ALL THE TALKING ABOUT DAN, LARRY, BRIDGET, FRED? NO, I THINK WE'VE TALKED BRIDGET.
UM, IS FRED GONNA MAKE ME SPEED UP TIME IF I MENTION IT?
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, YEAH, I, I LOVE THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
IT WAS A GREAT WAY TO, TO DIVE INTO THAT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS MENTIONED THERE, I CAN ALWAYS DO A FOLLOW UP ON, I KNOW WE HAVE OUR RESILIENCY, UM, PLAN ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.
SO WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE, UM, A MORE DETAILED PLAN OUTLINING THAT.
UM, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO RECYCLING AND LIKE OUR INITIATIVES OUTSIDE OF JUST A SINGULAR FOCUS ON HOW DO WE, UM, PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT.
UM, I LOOK BACK AT THE PAST MANY YEARS OF PICTURES AND POSTS AND WE'VE STOPPED AS MUCH CELEBRATING OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
LIKE I, WE WERE AT NEW RIVERSIDE YESTERDAY AND I HAD A FLASHBACK OF ANTHONY BARRETT PUTTING US ALL ON THE TRACTOR OUT THERE WHEN WE WERE DOING SOMETHING, MAYBE BUILDING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING.
UM, SIMPLE BUT FUN AND QUIRKY AND I KIND OF GUESS I'D THROW IT MORE TOWARD OUR PIOS AND ALL TO REALLY LET'S CELEBRATE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT TAKING IT.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, SO CELEBRATE OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
UM, I THINK COUNCIL WOULD LIKE A COPY OF THE STAFF SURVEYS THAT WE TOOK.
SO IF YOU WOULD GET THOSE TO US, YES, I'D LOVE TO SEE, WE ALL HAVE TO BE, WE ALL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE, WE ALL HAVE A STORY, RIGHT? AND YOU MAY NOT AGREE AND WE MAY NOT AGREE, BUT WE'VE GOTTA BE ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE WHEN WE LEAVE THIS, WE JUST, WE JUST HAVE TO ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT EACH OTHER'S THINKING.
'CAUSE I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW AND, UM, DESIGN GUIDELINES.
SHE REALLY, I'M GONNA BE HER DEPUTY POLICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION NEXT YEAR.
UM, I THINK OUR ISSUES WITH HPC RIGHT NOW ARE THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.
MAYBE THEY'RE NOT SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR US TO UNDERSTAND.
UM, I'VE SAT WITH MELANIE, I GET IT.
WE JUST GOTTA DO A BLUFFING VERSION OF, OF HER CONCERNS.
DON'T ELIMINATE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH BLUFFTON HISTORIC FOUNDATION.
POOR GLEN IS GONNA SPEND THE REST OF HIS LIFE LOOKING AT THAT INVENTORY.
I I GOT TIRED AFTER LIKE THE FIRST INCH OF IT AND IT'S FOUR INCHES THICK.
PLEASE CONSIDER GETTING THE PLT AND HISTORIC FOUNDATION AS PARTNERS.
THEY CAN DO IT AND WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO PAY 'EM.
AND GLEN CAN BE OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC TALKING ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
SO I I REALLY, THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAYBE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT ENOUGH AND UM, JUST MAYBE Y'ALL LOOK AT 10 COMMON SENSE UDO AMENDMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
Y'ALL, Y'ALL DEAL WITH IT EVERY DAY.
WE JUST LOOK AT IT AT COUNCIL.
WHAT ARE COMMON SENSE CHANGES? WE LITTLE THINGS LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, EVEN THE OUTDOOR INNER, THE OUTDOOR EATING WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF A RESIDENCE, YET WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RESIDENCE IS.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST SO MANY COMMON SENSE THINGS THAT, I MEAN, HEATHER, YOU LIVE IT AND BREATHE IT.
KEVIN, NON NON-CONFORMING, NON-CONFORMING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONFORMED WHEN WE ANNEXED THIS PLACE IN.
AND IT IS NO ONE'S FAULT SITTING AT THIS TABLE.
NEW, NEW PEOPLE HAVE COME, BUT DON'T WE SCRATCH OUR HEADS? WHY DID WE MAKE 'EM LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING.
WHY, WHY? I KNOW HEATHER BELIEVES THAT.
UM, AND I'M GONNA END WITH SOMETHING, BUT Y'ALL JUMP IN.
THIS IS THE BIGGEST DAY OF OUR NEXT TWO YEARS.
AND HONESTLY, WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE RUNNING FOR OFFICE? AND I, AND I DON'T MIND SAYING IT, THE PEOPLE RUNNING FOR OFFICE MINUS THE INCUMBENTS HAVE NOT SHOWN UP TO A MEETING.
AND THIS IS, IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS, IF YOU'RE GONNA RUN AGAINST SOMETHING, COME HERE AND GIVE US SOLUTIONS.
EVERYONE THAT STOOD UP TODAY GAVE US SOLUTIONS, SO SHAME ON THEM.
AND I CAN SAY IT 'CAUSE I HAVE YES YOU CAN.
UM, THIS IS, THIS IS THE IMPORTANT, DAVIS IS SETTING OUR PIPELINE FOR TWO YEARS, SO I HOPE THEY'RE WATCHING.
I HOPE THEY'LL WATCH, I HOPE EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO THROW STICKS AT
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US CAN LOOK AT THIS TO SEE WHAT GOOD WE'RE DOING.AND I SAW NO PERSONAL AGENDA TODAY AT, AT THIS TABLE.
SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR COMING VERY MUCH AND I APPRECIATE FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING.
BUT, UM, THIS WAS THE DAY FOR SOLUTIONS AND, AND I THINK Y'ALL GOT GOOD GUIDANCE.
UM, THIS IS I THINK EITHER YEAR 21 OR 22 THAT I'VE BEEN COUNSEL FOR THE TOWN.
UM, AND, AND I MEAN THAT SINCERELY.
YOU TAKE A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF, YOU MEET WITH STAFF AND YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING THIS GOOD WITH STAFF.
THANK YOU FOR NOT HAVING LEGAL IN COLUMN F ANYWHERE IN THOSE 92
YOU HAVE BEEN A CALM, RATIONAL, GUIDING LIGHT FOR THIS TOWN FOR AS LONG AS YOU'VE BEEN SITTING THERE.
WELL, LAWYERS ALLOWED TO KIND OF FUDGE THINGS NOW AND THEN, SO IT'S ALL GOOD.
TERRY, IF I MAY, THE DAY THAT SHE JUST ABOUT CHANGED HERSELF TO A PALM TREE WASN'T A RATIONAL DAY.
WHO LOVES THE PALM TREE? OKAY, WHO LOVES THE PALM TREE? PLANT STANDS AT WRIGHT FAMILY PARK.