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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY READY, TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, GULLAH GEECHEE, LAND AND CULTURAL PRESENTATION, TASK FORCE MEETING NOVEMBER 6TH, 2023.
GO AHEAD AND, UH, CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER HEARING.
ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FOIA? YES, WE ARE.
WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL AND I HOPE CERTAINLY, AND EVERYONE PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR MICS ARE ON CAMPBELL HERE, HANDS HERE, RIGHT? YEAH, STEVENS HERE.
AND I SEE MR. ABDU, MALIK COMING IN.
SORRY, MR. SIMMONS IS EXCUSED.
YES, HE SAID HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE IS THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE, THE AGENDA.
THERE'S NO VISIONS OR QUESTIONS, SO I CAN HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
APPROVED SECOND MAY THE MOTION MS. WRIGHT HAS SECOND.
UH, WE HAVE SOME MINUTES FROM, UH, SEPTEMBER THE 11TH.
WE HAD A CHANCE TO READ MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR SEPTEMBER 11TH MEETING.
APPROVED MR. HES HAS MADE THE MOTION SECOND, RIGHT? AS SECOND.
SO I AM GONNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE IN ATTENDANCE FOR TAKING THE TIME OUTTA YOUR DAY TO BE WITH US FOR THIS MEETING AND, UH, VALUE ATTENDANCE FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR PUBLIC.
THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE IS THE APPEARANCE BY CITIZENS.
UH, KAREN, DID WE HAVE ANY COME IN THROUGH? NO ONE SIGNED UP, SIR.
AND, UH, NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED TO THE PORTAL.
UH, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE LIBERTY AT THIS TIME TO ASK, UH, LINDA PICK, SHE WOULD LIKE TO COME AND ADDRESS THIS.
LINDA PICKETT FROM THE HERITAGE LIBRARY.
OUR HERITAGE LIBRARY HEIRS PROPERTY TEAM IS HAVING THEIR LAST TEAM MEETING OF THE YEAR, NEXT TUESDAY THE 14TH AT ONE O'CLOCK AT USCB.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE ANY MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE WHO ARE ABLE TO COME TO COME AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF A MEET AND GREET AND, UH, A VISIT BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR PROCEDURAL MEETING.
ONE O'CLOCK CONFERENCE ROOM 2 0 4 USCB HILTON HEAD CAMPUS TUESDAY THE 14TH.
WE APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE HERITAGE LIBRARY.
I HOPE YOU'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AND BE IN SCHEDULE.
ALLOWS WHAT YOU CAN ADJUST YOUR SCHEDULES.
UM, NEXT I HAVE STAFF REPORT, GENERAL UPDATES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MISSY LU, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD.
UM, I JUST HAVE ONE GENERAL UPDATE ON OUR TWO LARGE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTING THE DISTRICT PLANNING PROJECT AND THE LMO OVERHAUL PROJECT.
AND JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS WEEK AT THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE WE WILL BE, UM, COMMUNICATING TO PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE AND GETTING DIRECTION ON, UH, STREAMLINING THE APPROACH FOR THE DISTRICT PLANNING PROJECT OVERALL AND BASED ON DIRECTION ON THAT AMENDED DIRECTION.
UM, WE'LL REPORT BACK TO THE GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE, UM, WITH WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH THAT.
UM, BUT YOU CAN, UM, THE, THE PACKET WAS PUBLISHED TODAY FOR THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE WHERE IT OUTLINES THE INTENDED CHANGES TO BOTH OF THOSE PROCESSES, BOTH FOR THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE OVERHAUL, AS WELL AS THE, UM, DISTRICT PLANNING PROJECT.
SO, UM, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO ASK ABOUT THE, UH, POSITION.
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UH, SURE, CERTAINLY.UM, WE HAVE THE, UM, CNAS VACANCY, THE PRINCIPAL PLANNER HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS POSITION, UM, IS POSTED.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING NOT, NOT A LARGE STREAM OF APPLICANTS, UM, AND CANDIDATES FOR CONSIDERATION, BUT IT IS STILL POSTED AND ACTIVE.
UM, SO IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING THIS WORK, PLEASE UH, DO SHARE THAT THAT JOB POSTING, UM, WITH YOUR FRIENDS IN EXTENDED CIRCLES, UH, 'CAUSE WE WOULD LOVE TO GET THAT POSITION FILLED.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, UH, MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE US A LITTLE UPDATE ABOUT THE STAFF WE HAVE NOW THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US.
SO, UM, IN COMMUNITY PLANNING, WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF, OF TURNOVER OF LATE, UM, OUR, UH, COMMUNITY PLANNING MANAGER, UH, RESIGNED AND ONE OF OUR OTHER PRINCIPAL PLANNER, UH, PRINCIPAL PLANNERS RESIGNED.
SO, UM, COMMUNITY PLANNING INCLUDES, UM,
OF COURSE, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE DIVISION, SO I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE.
WE HAVE, UM, RECENTLY MADE OFFERS AND CANDIDATES HAVE ACCEPTED FOR, UM, A PRINCIPAL PLANNER POSITION AND A COM NEW COMMUNITY PLANNING MANAGER ALREADY.
SO, UM, BUT THEY WON'T START UNTIL DECEMBER.
SO, UM, WE'RE A LITTLE SHORT STAFFED AT THE MOMENT, BUT, UM, WE ARE ACTIVELY RECRUITING, UH, REGULARLY.
AND, UH, SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO DO ANY PLANNING WORK, WE DO HAVE VACANCIES HERE AT THE TOWN TO DO ALL OF THIS GREAT WORK.
JUST TO ASSURE US THAT THE WORK IS STILL CONTINUING.
THE WORK IS CONTINUING AND, UM, IT'S JUST PART OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR PERSON IN THAT SPOT, THE WORK IS CONTINUING AND, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE ASSEMBLED A TEAM OF PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS WORK.
THE PEOPLE THAT ACCEPTED THE POSITION, ARE THEY FROM AROUND HERE OR ARE THEY FROM SOMEWHERE? UM, ONE IS WITHIN THE GREATER, YOU KNOW, HILTON HEAD, SAVANNAH AREA, AND THE OTHER ONE IS IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
BUT IS RELOCATING COULD ASK A QUESTION ON THE PERSONS THAT WE LOST.
WERE THEY WENT TO TOWN FOR A GOOD MINUTE OR WERE THEY RELATIVELY NEW WITH, WITH THE STAFF? OH, THE ONES THAT RECENTLY RESIGNED.
IT'S NOT LIKE A LOT OF THE HISTORY OF THE WORKING OF THE TOWN IS BORN WITH THEM.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT TOPIC FOR MISSY? OKAY, THANK YOU.
HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD PERMITTING AND DESIGN STUDIO REPORT.
ALEXIS COOK, PRINCIPAL PLANNER.
UM, I'M NEW TO THIS MEETING, SO HELLO.
I WORKED WITH KRISNA WHEN SHE WAS HERE ON SOME OF THE DESIGN STUDIO PROJECTS, SO I'M TAKING OVER FOR RIGHT NOW IN HER ABSENCE UNTIL WE HIRE SOMEONE IN HER POSITION.
AND I WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON OUR, UM, DESIGN STUDIO APPLICATIONS AND ANY HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD PERMITTING FROM, ESSENTIALLY WHEN WE STARTED SERVING RESIDENTS IN OCTOBER, 2021 TO OCTOBER, 2023.
UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED 66 TOTAL DESIGN STUDIO REQUESTS TO DATE, WHICH IS TWO MORE REQUESTS FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.
THE TWO NEW CASES ARE ON MARSHLAND ROAD BEHIND BEAUTIFUL ISLAND SQUARE.
UM, TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO HAS RECENTLY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND THEN A JONESVILLE PROPERTY ALSO VERY MUCH IN THE EARLY STAGES.
WE JUST RECEIVED SURVEY, UM, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF STORM WATER QUESTIONS TO GO OVER WITH THEM.
SO TWO NEW CASES THAT, UH, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO ASSISTING WITH.
AND THEN WE STILL DO HAVE 33 ACTIVE DESIGN STUDIO PROJECTS.
UM, AND PLEASE, I, I TALKED TO MISSY ABOUT THIS.
WE WANNA MAKE OURSELVES OPEN AND AVAILABLE, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY CASES, LVO, I KNOW I OWE YOU AN ANSWER ON AN ACTIVE CASE.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
WE HAVE A, A BIG DATABASE OF, OF WHERE WE ARE AT WITH EACH PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE 19 THAT ARE TECHNICALLY ON HOLD, WHETHER WE'RE, UM, WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT AND WAITING FOR INFORMATION, OR FOUR OF THEM ACTUALLY ARE WAITING ON TOWN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, WHICH IS VERY UNIQUE AND INTERESTING.
I THINK JUST COORDINATING THAT EFFORT.
AND THEN WE HAVE 14 THAT ARE EITHER IN PROGRESS, ACTIVE OR UNDER REVIEW.
THANK YOU QUESTIONS FOR THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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OKAY.UM, HOME SAFETY AND REPAIR PROGRAM UPDATE.
HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, N BARTOS PLANNER.
I WILL BEGIN THE UPDATE FOR HOME SAFETY IN PLACE OF CHRIS GATES TODAY.
UM, AS OF THE LAST UPDATE, WE HAVE RECEIVED SIX NEW APPLICATIONS AND WE HAVE COMPLETED 14 APPLICATIONS.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN EIGHT MORE APPLICATIONS UNDER CONTRACT FOR A TOTAL OF $39,892, UM, FOR A TOTAL NOW VALUE OF 5,000 2,500 OR $525,713 FOR A TOTAL OF 32 HOMES UNDER, UM, EITHER CONTRACT OR PENDING FINAL CONTRACT OR QUOTES.
UM, WE HAVE ADDED TWO MORE COMPLETED, UM, PERMITTED JOBS AND FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN NOW.
AND THERE ARE, UM, 15 APPLICATIONS THAT NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
UM, THREE APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN, UM, PROBABLY DUE TO NOT MEETING QUALIFICATIONS, UM, EIGHT APPLICATIONS OR EIGHT APPLICATIONS, I'M SORRY, DID NOT MEET INCOME QUALIFICATIONS.
AND THEN WITH THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 27TH, WE HAVE RECEIVED TWO NEW APPLICATIONS AND, UM, FH PASSION, WHICH IS THE CONTRACTOR, HAS STARTED ON FIVE PERMITTED JOBS.
QUESTIONS, UM, NICK, CAN YOU JUST, OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, JUST LIKE THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD PERMITTING AND DESIGN STUDIO REPORT, ITS SUMMARY, IT, IT SHOWED HOW MANY RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN SERVED SINCE THE PROGRAM STARTED IN OCTOBER OF 2021.
CAN YOU THIS SINCE INCEPTION OF THE HOME SAFETY AND REPAIR PROGRAM AS WELL? YES.
THIS HAS BEEN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF, UM, THE HOME SAFETY AND REPAIR PROGRAM, WHICH STARTED IN JULY OF LAST YEAR.
A BREAKDOWN ON WHICH HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOODS OR MOST OF THE WORK, I MEAN, MOST OF THE WORK IS BEING DONE.
WE DO NOT HAVE A CURRENT BREAKDOWN.
UM, OF COURSE WE HAVE ALL OF THE ADDRESSES ALONG WITH EACH APPLICATION.
UM, WE HAVE NOT REALLY BROKEN IT DOWN INTO SECTIONS, WHICH WE PROBABLY CAN, I CAN BRING THAT TO CHRIS IF YOU'D LIKE.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION AS WELL, CHRIS, UM, MAY HAVE MADE, IN FACT HE DID MAKE MENTION THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE HOMES WOULD PROBABLY BE IN NEED OF ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.
UM, AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THOSE FAMILIES THAT WOULD NEED THOSE RESOURCES HAVE TO MAKE A TOTALLY NEW APPLICATION.
AND ARE WE, ARE WE COMMUNICATING, UH, TO THOSE FAMILIES THAT HAVE THAT NEED THAT THEY WOULD'VE TO DO THAT PROCESS ALL OVER? YES.
SO EVERY APPLICANT KNOWS THAT, UM, THEY ARE ABLE TO REAPPLY FOR EACH YEAR.
UM, THEY DO MAX AT $15,000 PER JOB, SO PER APPLICATION PER YEAR, UM, THEY ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO REAPPLY IF THEY NEED ADDITIONAL
TERRY, I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT THAT I KNOW OF SOME OF THE APPLICANTS WHO HAVE HAD WORKED DONE AND THEY WERE VERY PLEASED.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
YOUR CONNECTION, ARE YOU HERE FOR THE NEXT ITEM? YES, SIR.
SEWER CONNECTION PROGRAM THING.
AND THEN AGAIN, SINCE OUR LAST UPDATE FOR SEWER CONNECTION, WE'VE RECEIVED EIGHT NEW APPLICATIONS.
UM, WE HAVE GONE FIVE MORE LETTER OF APPROVALS FOR THESE APPLICATIONS FOR A TOTAL OF 25.
AND THEN, UM, SIX OF THESE HAVE NOT BEEN SCHEDULED FOR CONNECTION YET, BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH PSD ON THOSE.
AND THEN WE HAVE HAD A TOTAL OF 19 OF THESE APPLICATIONS COMPLETED FOR A TOTAL OF 113,466, SORRY, THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND, AND AGAIN, WHEN DID THIS PROGRAM START? UH, SAME AS THE HOME SAFETY, SO JULY OF 2020.
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SO YES, THESE NUMBERS ARE ALSO, UM, FROM THE BEGINNING, THE QUESTIONS FROM NICK KAY.UM, FOR THE SEWER CONNECTION PROGRAM, AGAIN, I, I'M ASSUMING WE'RE DOING ALL WE CAN TO PROMOTE THIS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL OF US IN THE COMMUNITY.
OF COURSE, BOTH PROGRAMS ARE BEING PROMOTED AS WELL AS THEY CAN BE.
UM, WE DO HAVE FLYERS OUT HERE IN THE LOBBY AS WELL AS, UM, SAN ULUS, UH, THE DEEP WELL PROJECT ALSO HAS THE APPLICATIONS AND FLYERS FOR SEWER CONNECTION PLUS DEEP WELL ALSO HAS THEIR PROGRAM AS WELL, THEIR, UM, HOME SAFETY AND REPAIR PROGRAM AS WELL.
THE PROJECT SAFE, WHICH IS SEWER.
OKAY, NEXT, UH, ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION ITEMS. AND WE HAVE A PROPOSED 2024 MEETING CALENDAR.
ALL HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING COMES OUT AT US.
YOU HAVE A QUORUM HERE, DON'T WE? YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT MEETING.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET APPROVED TODAY IF WE, SORRY, YEAH, THAT JULY 1ST, UH, MEETING, IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON WHY THAT JULY ONE MEETING WAS CANCELED? WAS IT IN 4TH OF JULY? I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? QUESTION IS ABOUT THE, ON OUR MEETING CALENDAR? YES.
UH, WE HAVE THE JULY 1ST, 2024 MEETING CANCELED.
THAT IS, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE ON THAT.
THE QUESTION IS, HI, I UNDERSTAND.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT CAME FROM CNA.
IS THERE AN OBJECTION TO HAVING THAT MEETING CANCELED IF IT'S IN THE SUMMER WHEN THERE'S YES.
PROBABLY NOT A LOT GOING ON OR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER DATES.
UH, WELL THEN THAT BEING THE CASE, I'D LIKE TO MAYBE ENTERTAIN THE MOTION, APPROVE THIS, UH, MEETING CALENDAR.
MS. WRIGHT HAS MADE THE MOTION.
ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE FAMILY COMPOUND, FAMILY SUBDIVISION PROCESSED.
THINK WE HAVE A MEANINGFUL, UM, TOUCH BASE REAL QUICK ON THE HOME SAFETY AND REPAIR AND SEWER CONNECTION PROJECTS.
UM, THERE WILL BE AN UPDATE ON A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES THAT'S GONNA BE MADE AT THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, UM, TOMORROW.
UM, AND ONE OF THOSE IS THAT BOTH OF THOSE PRO PROGRAMS ARE, UM, REACHING THEIR FUNDING LIMITS RIGHT NOW.
AND SO, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, WE ONLY HAVE, UM, 446, $400 REMAINING IN THE SEWER CONNECTION PRO PROGRAM AND THEN JUST 74,000 REMAINING IN THE HOME REPAIR.
AND SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET A LOT OF, UH, PROJECTS, UM, CONTRACTED AND UNDERWAY, WHICH IS, UM, A SUCCESS STORY THAT WE WANNA HIGHLIGHT.
UM, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE MORE, UM, DEMAND THAN WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO FUND AT THIS MOMENT.
SO THAT'S JUST GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT IS DISCUSSED OR BROUGHT UP IN, IN AN UPDATE.
UM, AND ALSO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED SOME REALLY NICE THANK YOUS, UM, FOR SOME OF THE HOME REPAIR WORK THAT WE'VE DONE.
WE HAVE NOT DONE A COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH, UM,
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ON THE PARTICULAR PROGRAM AND ITS SUCCESSES.UM, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANNA WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM ON TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME OF THE FAMILIES TO SIGN THE MEDIA RELEASE FORMS AND ALLOW US TO SHOWCASE SOME OF THIS GREAT WORK AND THE IMPACT THAT THESE PROGRAMS ARE HAVING ON THE COMMUNITY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
UM, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE, UH, RELEASES IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO SHOWCASE, UM, THIS WORK.
ALEXIS COOK FOR THE RECORD, GOING TO GET THIS UP AS A PRESENTATION.
STAFF IS HERE TO TALK TO THE TASK FORCE TODAY ABOUT THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION PROCESS.
I'LL START WITH THE AGENDA, BUT REALLY WE WANT THIS TO BE AN OPEN DIALOGUE TODAY AND NOT BE THE END OF THIS CONVERSATION.
SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA ON THE PRESENTATION.
UH, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND, WHICH HIGHLIGHTS THE HISTORY, UH, FROM THE PRESERVATION PROJECT ALL THE WAY THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION THROUGH THE TASK FORCE.
I WON'T GO THROUGH EVERYTHING, I JUST WANNA TOUCH ON SOME FEW POINTS, BUT A LOT OF WORK, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WENT INTO THIS COMPONENT.
AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF 34 INITIATIVES THAT CAME OUT OF THAT REPORT.
SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO UPDATE THE TASK FORCE AND GET YOUR GUYS' FEEDBACK ON THIS PROCESS.
WE'LL GO OVER THE TWO APPLICATION TYPES, UM, HOW MANY APPLICATIONS WE'VE GOTTEN TO DATE.
THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF BOTH APPLICATIONS AND A FEW CASE STUDIES OF THOSE APPLICATIONS.
UH, WE'LL GO OVER A GENERAL COMPARISON TO OUR OTHER APPLICATION TYPES, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, EXCUSE ME.
AND THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WANNA GO OVER, AND SAME WITH MISSY, THE AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
WE REALLY WANT TO DISCUSS WITH THE TASK FORCE AS WELL AS, UM, WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
WHERE CAN WE IMPROVE THIS PROCESS? WHAT HAVE, WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY? WHAT CAN WE DO TO, TO MAKE THIS SMOOTHER? WHAT CAN WE DO TO INCORPORATE MORE OF THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY? UM, SO REALLY THIS IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE'RE JUMPING INTO LMO PHASE FIVE, AND THIS IS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO MARRY THIS CONVERSATION WITH MEANINGFUL CHANGE.
UM, AND THEN AT THE END, THIS IS VERY HIGH LEVEL DRAFT, BUT WE'RE CONSIDERING MAYBE A NEW APPLICATION TYPE.
WOULD ALSO LOVE YOUR GUYS' THOUGHTS ON THIS.
UM, AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION.
SO AS PROMISED, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE IN THE BACKGROUND.
THIS FIRST SLIDE IS REALLY FROM SEPTEMBER, 2018 THROUGH THE END OF 2019.
SO THIS IS A VERY BRIEF SUMMARY OF TWO YEARS OF WORK.
UH, THIS STARTED WITH THE GULLAH GEECHEE LAND AND CULTURE, CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE, AND I'M SURE THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK EVEN BEFORE SEPTEMBER, 2018.
BUT THIS REPORT RESULTED IN THOSE 34 RECOMMENDATIONS AND FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION NEEDS.
WERE JUST TWO OF THOSE 34, UM, PROJECT TYPES.
AND I ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IN THE FUTURE.
WE CAN ALSO TOUCH BASE ON MAYBE THE OTHER PARTS OF THE REPORT, THE OTHER 32 ITEMS,
UM, SO THIS WORK ULTIMATELY, UH, NEAR THE END OF 2019 BROUGHT THESE TOP PRIORITIES, THIS WHOLE FRAMEWORK OF THIS REPORT TO TOWN COUNCIL.
AND THEN THROUGH NOVEMBER, 2019 TO AROUND SEPTEMBER, 2020, STAFF WORKED WITH THE TASK FORCE.
THEY WORKED WITH, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
THEY WORKED ON THIS, UM, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT, WHICH I KNOW EVOLVED INTO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
UM, AND THEN THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION, LMO AMENDMENTS WERE BEING CREATED DURING THAT TIME, ALONG WITH, I KNOW A LOT OF OTHER WORK.
SO I DON'T MEAN TO TO SUMMARIZE IT, BUT IT WAS QUITE A FEW PIECES OF HISTORY HERE.
UM, SO FROM 2019 THROUGH 2020, WORKING ON THESE DRAFTS, BRINGING THEM TO PLANNING COMMISSION, BRINGING THEM TO THE TASK FORCE, BRINGING THEM TO TOWN COUNCIL.
ULTIMATELY AT MID 2021, THEY WERE OFFICIALLY ADOPTED AS TWO LMO AMENDMENTS FOR FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
SO THREE YEARS OF A LOT OF WORK HERE.
I KNOW THE TASK FORCE IS FAMILIAR WITH THESE SKETCHES, BUT I, I LIKE THEM.
I THINK THAT THEY SET THE STAGE FOR REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THESE APPLICATION TYPES.
SO WE HAVE FAMILY COMPOUND, WE HAVE A REGULAR SUBDIVISION, AND THEN WE HAVE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCES.
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FAMILY COMPOUND HAS, YOU KNOW, LESS SETBACKS, LESS BUFFERS, MORE OPEN SPACE, MORE SPACE THAT CAN BE SHARED WITH FAMILY MEMBERS.UM, AND THEN FAMILY SUBDIVISION IS REALLY THOSE DEDICATED PARCELS, UM, FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL FAMILY MEMBER, BUT STILL ENJOYING, UM, THAT SAME LOT TOGETHER GOING INTO THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION ANALYSIS AND APPLICATIONS TO DATE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER, UM, THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT DO ALLOW THESE TYPE OF APPLICATIONS, WHICH I THINK WILL BE A CONVERSATION THAT I'D LOVE TO BRING UP IN THE WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE, UH, 'CAUSE THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL APPLICATIONS, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE APPLICATION TYPES APPLY TO MANY DIFFERENT USES.
MITCHELLVILLE, UM, STONY MAIN STREET DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THESE ARE SOME THINGS I'D REALLY LIKE TO DISCUSS AS A GROUP KIND OF AS WE GET THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE HAD, UH, SIX FAMILY COMPOUND APPLICATIONS.
UH, ONE IS IN PROGRESS OF APPROVAL.
UH, FIVE FAMILY SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS.
TWO HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND THREE ARE IN PROGRESS.
AND WE'LL GO OVER CASE STUDIES FOR BOTH OF THESE TYPES, UH, HERE SHORTLY.
SO FAMILY COMPOUND, WE HAVE A SINGLE PARCEL OF LAND THAT ALLOWS MULTIPLE HOMES TO BE BUILT WITH REDUCED BUFFER SETBACK ACCESS.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE EXAMPLE HERE, I'D LIKE TO DIVE INTO THE, UM, PURPOSE AND INTENT.
SO THE PURPOSE FOR THE FAMILY COMPOUND IS TO PROVIDE A SHARED LIVING SPACE FOR FAMILY MEMBERS WHILE MAINTAINING INDIVIDUALITY, BUT ALSO HAVING SHARED AMENITIES.
WE WANT IT TO PROMOTE A SENSE OF TOGETHERNESS, COMMUNAL LIVING, AND CONVENIENCE.
UM, THE INTENT OF THE APPLICATION TYPE IS TO DESIGN, TO ASSIST THE FAMILY WITHOUT TRIGGERING THE FULL RANGE OF LMO REQUIREMENTS.
BOTH APPLICATION TYPES HAVE A VERY SIMILAR, UM, METHOD, BUT THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY DO RESULT IN DIFFERENT OUTCOMES.
I, I THINK WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, CAN'T WE? YEAH, SURE.
SO, UM, A FAMILY COMPOUND, IT'S, IT'S ONE, ONE PROPERTY OWNED BY MULTIPLE, UM, MULTIPLE FAMILY MEMBERS.
AND, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, CAN'T GET A MORTGAGE FOR A HOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY TYPICALLY BECAUSE IT'S A BIG PROPERTY WITH POTENTIALLY MULTIPLE OWNERS THAT WHAT MAKES A FAMILY COMPOUND? A FAMILY COMPOUND AND UNU AND, AND DIFFERENT FROM, FROM A, A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED PROPERTY.
I THINK THAT'S WHEN AIR'S PROPERTY BECOMES AN ISSUE.
IT'S ONLY IF IT'S LIKE HAIR'S PROPERTY, SORRY.
SO THIS, UM, APPLICATION TYPE, UM, WHILE IT MAY BE APPLIED TO HEIRS PROPERTY, IT, IT, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE, UH, A SITUATION LIKE THAT.
SO SOMETIMES YES, WITH HEIRS PROPERTY THERE, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE CLEAR TITLE, IT IS DIFFICULT TO GET A MORTGAGE.
AND SO THEN THERE ARE LESS OPTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT THAN OF THAT PARCEL.
UM, BUT A FAMILY COMPOUND OR A FAMILY SUBDIVISION IS BASED ON, UM, THE DEFINITIONS ARE THAT IT IS IN FAMILY OWNERSHIP SINCE 1956.
SO THERE'S SOME CRITERIA THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THESE APPLICATION TYPES.
UM, BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COMPOUND AND A SUBDIVISION OBVIOUSLY IS THAT IT'S MULTIPLE HOMES ON ONE PARCEL FOR A COMPOUND.
AND THEN A FAMILY SUBDIVISION STILL HAS THAT, IT'S BEEN OWNED IN FAMILY OWNERSHIP SINCE 1956, BUT IT CAN BE SUBDIVIDED.
UM, THERE ARE, AGAIN, LESSER SETBACKS AND BUFFERS AND ACCESS REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH APPLICATION TYPES.
BOTH OF THEM ONLY REQUIRE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE INSTALLED TO THE POINT OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHERE YOU'RE READY TO DEVELOP, UM, AND THERE'S SOME SLIDES THAT GO THROUGH A COMPARISON BETWEEN FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
AND THEN THE OTHER, UM, APPLICATION TYPES THAT ARE SIMILAR IN OUR CODE THAT THIS TYPE, THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD, WOULD FALL UNDER IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE TWO APPLICATION TYPES.
SO WE EITHER HAVE A SMALL RESIDENTIAL PLAN REVIEW TYPE THAT IS CALLED ADPR.
IT USED TO STAND FOR ABBREVIATED DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW, UM, AND, AND THEN A MINOR SUBDIVISION PROCESS.
AND SO THESE APPLICATION TYPES THAT WERE CREATED WERE MEANT TO SOLVE SOME OF THE OBSTACLES AND BARRIERS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED
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WITH THE GULLAH GEECHEE LAND AND PRESERVATION PROJECT REPORT.AND AGAIN, AS ALEXIS IDENTIFIED, THE PURPOSE OF THIS OVERVIEW TODAY IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE UNDER CONTRACT WITH A CODE WRITER, UM, LATE THIS YEAR AND START THAT LMO OVERHAUL IN JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR.
AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS TO START THE CONVERSATION WITH THE TASK FORCE AND WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH THE GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE MET WITH LAST WEEK TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE THESE PROCESSES.
SO THIS PRESENTATION IS TO GIVE YOU LIKE, WHAT ARE THESE APPLICATIONS SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT WE'VE REVIEWED AND APPROVED TODAY, SOME CASE STUDIES OF, OF SOME EXAMPLES THAT WE HAVE REVIEWED WHERE WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT.
BUT WHAT WE ALSO WANNA HEAR IS, UM, WHAT, WHAT IS IS NOT WORKING, WHAT COULD BE APPROVED UPON WHAT EVEN, UM, WAS NOT CONSIDERED IN THE DRAFTING OF THESE THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER WITH THE NEW CO NEW CODE CONSULTANT IN OUR NEW CODE.
SO, UM, SO THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET FROM TODAY'S DISCUSSION REALLY, IS ON HOW CAN WE APPRO IMPROVE THESE APPLICATION PROCESSES, UM, TO MEET THE NEEDS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE PROJECT PRESERVATION REPORT.
SO A FAMILY COMPOUND, WHAT, WHAT TYPE STRUCTURES WOULD WE EXPECT TO SEE ON A FAMILY COMPOUND? WOULD THEY BE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES? WOULD THERE, WOULD THERE BE MOBILE, MOBILE HOMES TYPICALLY? UM, WELL THE STRUCTURE TYPE, UM, SO THIS IS CONSIDERED SINGLE FAMILY PER THE CODE, BUT TYPICALLY THE DEVELOPMENT TYPE IS MANUFACTURED HOME OR A MODULAR HOME.
BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE, IT COULD BE A STICK BUILT SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UM, OR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, SO, BUT TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE ARE MANUFACTURED HOMES, YES.
AND I THINK IT'S FAIR AS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.
GRANTED IT IS SENSITIVE, RIGHT? THIS IS COMMUNITY MEMBERS' PERSONAL INFORMATION, LIKE WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT MORTGAGES, I THINK IT'S A IMPORTANT CONVERSATION TO HAVE BECAUSE AS WE WILL DISCUSS LATER WITH, UM, EASEMENTS AND ACCESS AND LEGAL DOCUMENTS AND THAT PROCESS WHERE, WHERE WE TRY TO HELP THE APPLICANT THROUGH THAT JOURNEY, WE DON'T NECESSARILY OVERLAP OR HELP INTO, WE REALLY DON'T HELP INTO THE FINANCIAL PART OF THEIR JOURNEY.
AND THAT'S REALLY JUST BECAUSE IT'S THEIR PRIVATE INFORMATION.
UM, BUT I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE FAIR TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IF THEY'RE WILLING TO SHARE WITH US IF THERE'S DIFFICULTIES OBTAINING A MORTGAGE WITH THIS TYPE OF PARCEL, WITH THIS TYPE OF PLAT.
I, IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT TO US, I, WE WOULD LOVE, ESPECIALLY IN PRIVATE WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH SHARING THAT INFORMATION.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T DIVE INTO THE FINANCIAL SIDE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK SOME OF THE WORK OF THE HERITAGE LIBRARY AND WORKING WITH FAMILIES STRUCTURE.
AND THEN THEY CAN TAKE FROM THERE POLICY WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING THEIR PRIVACY, THEIR TITLES OR STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY OR WHATEVER TYPE OF HOW THEY WANT TO USE THAT.
THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS, BUT I SEE AT LEAST ONE PART MAY, MAYBE NOT THE BIGGEST, BUT IT'S THE SECOND BILL.
SECOND BULLET ON THIS, THE INTENT OF THE APPLICATION IS DESIGNED TO ASSIST WITH DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT TRIGGERING THE FULL RANGE OF
AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF WHAT WE USED TO IDENTIFY, IDENTIFIES A PAPER SUBDIVISION.
SO WE'VE GOT SOMETHING IN THE CODE NOW THAT ALLOWS US TO USE THE PROPERTY WITHOUT HAVING TO ACTUALLY PUT THE ROADS IN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK CONTINUE.
OKAY, WITH THAT WE'LL JUMP INTO A FEW CASE STUDIES HERE.
SO AS DISCUSSED, THERE ARE FIVE APPROVED FAMILY COMPOUND APPLICATIONS AND ONE IN PROGRESS.
IF WE HAD, UH, MORE THAN ONE THAT WAS IN PROGRESS, I WOULD HAVE TWO CASE STUDIES HERE THAT WERE ONGOING.
'CAUSE I WANT TO SHARE REALLY WHERE WE ARE AND WHY WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEM TO APPROVAL YET.
UM, EVEN THOUGH OUR CASE MANAGERS ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE FAMILIES ON THESE APPLICATIONS.
SO THE FIRST CASE STUDY, UH, THE STATUS OF IT IS CFC FINALIZED OR A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE.
THAT PRETTY MUCH MEANS THAT YOU HAVE DONE EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO DO AND YOUR PROJECT IS APPROVED AND EVERYTHING SHOULD BE BUILT AND EVERYTHING WAS INSPECTED
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AND LOOKS GOOD.UM, THIS CASE STUDY AND THE OTHER CASE STUDY I THOUGHT WERE INTERESTING, THEY BOTH WENT TO ENGINEERING FIRMS TO ASSIST WITH, UM, LMO REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS SOMETHING I WANT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION TOO, AS A CASE MANAGER MYSELF, WHEN WE RECEIVE DESIGN STUDIO APPLICATIONS, WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WE WANT TO MINIMIZE AS MUCH UPFRONT COST, UM, TO THE FAMILY OR TO THE APPLICANT, UM, AS WE'RE DOING THE DUE DILIGENCE ON THEIR PROPERTY OR HELPING WITH THAT PAPER SUBDIVISION QUOTE UNQUOTE, UM, APPLICATION.
UM, SO FOR THE FIRST CASE STUDY, TWO PHASES, UM, FOR THE UTILITY CONSTRUCTION WAS BASED ON, UM, THERE WERE FIVE EXISTING MOBILE HOMES ON THE PROPERTY THAT WERE BEING TRANSFORMED INTO 10 NEW MOBILE HOMES.
SO THE FIRST PHASE WAS TO, UM, BUILD OUT THE ACCESS FOR THE FIVE NEW HOMES, UH, TRANSFER THE UTILITIES FROM THE FIVE EXISTING TO ALL FIVE 10 NEW HOMES.
UM, AND WE WILL GO OVER AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE, UH, VISUAL OF THAT APPLICATION, THE PLATT ON THE NEXT PAGE.
UH, THE SECOND CASE STUDY WAS THE PLACEMENT OF SIX NEW MOBILE HOMES, UH, AS DISCUSSED IN AN ENGINEERING FIRM, WAS ALSO PROCURED TO HELP WITH THE DESIGN.
UM, AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY, UM, UNDER THE STATUS CALLED CORRECTIONS REQUIRED, WHICH JUST MEANS THAT STAFF HAS COMMENTS FOR THEM.
UM, AND THEY ARE WAITING ON UTILITIES TO BE RELOCATED THROUGH AN EASEMENT.
AND THAT EASEMENT IS CURRENTLY A LEGAL REVIEW.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE ON TO WHAT THESE LOOK LIKE.
SO THIS IS CASE STUDY NUMBER ONE WHERE THEY WERE GOING FROM 10 HOMES, OR I'M, EXCUSE ME, FIVE HOMES TO 10 HOMES.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS ONE PARCEL.
WE DO HAVE AN ACCESS ROAD THAT LOOPS AROUND THE PARCEL, UM, ON BOTH SIDES THAT FLANKS THE HOMES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN EXISTING.
MOST LIKELY THAT WAS FOR, UM, FIRE SAFETY, BEING ABLE TO REACH EVERY HOME AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SERVED.
UM, SO THIS IS WHAT A TYPICAL PLA FOR A FAMILY COMPOUND WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND PLEASE FEEL FREE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO STOP ME.
UM, BUT I WILL GO ON TO CASE STUDY NUMBER TWO.
UM, THIS IS, AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL FROM NUMBER ONE TO NUMBER TWO, I PULLED, UM, A POST-DEVELOPMENT SURVEY.
SO THIS IS HOW THINGS ARE CURRENTLY.
AND THEN THIS IS AN ENGINEERED PLAN.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE UTILITIES ARE DRAWN OUT IN MORE DETAIL, UM, DRIVEWAYS WHERE THE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE PLACED.
YOU SEE SOME CONSTRUCTION PHASING HERE.
UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE, UM, REALITIES WHEN WE HAVE APPLICANTS COME IN AND THEY'RE READY TO CONSTRUCT THAT.
WE WANT TO HELP AS CASE MANAGERS SERVE THEM BEST, UM, SO THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE RIGHT PRODUCT, THE HOMES ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE, THEY'RE SAFE, UM, PEOPLE ARE HAPPY.
SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO THINK ABOUT THIS AS WE GO THROUGH THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION APPLICATION.
UM, I, I SAW SOME INTERESTING, I WASN'T THE CASE MANAGER ON ALL OF THESE ACTUALLY ON UNFORTUNATELY NONE OF THESE.
BUT, UH, MET WITH THE CASE MANAGER, I ASKED HIM QUESTIONS.
I WANTED TO LEARN KIND OF WHAT THE THEMES WERE AND ON THE FAMILY COMPOUND CASES, UM, TYPICALLY THEY WOULD HIRE AN ENGINEER AND TYPICALLY THEY WERE READY TO BUILD.
AND I WAS NOTICING ON THE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS, TYPICALLY IT WAS MORE WE WANNA SUBDIVIDE FOR OUR FAMILIES AND WE'RE NOT READY TO BUILD JUST YET, OR MAYBE ONLY ONE PERSON IS READY TO BUILD.
AND THOSE, UM, APPLICATIONS, HOW YOU IMPLEMENT THOSE WERE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
PLEASE IN KNOW SITUATION WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, FAMILY MEMBERS WHO MAY BE READY TO BILL AND FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT READY TO BILL YES.
THAT FAMILY THAT'S NOT READY TO BILL, CAN THEIR DE BE REGISTERED TO THEM WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BEING PUT IN PLACE? TO MY UNDERSTANDING, YES.
THE, THESE APPLICATION TYPES ARE SET UP TO WHOEVER IS READY TO BUILD.
LET'S SAY THIS IS A FAMILY COMPOUND.
SO LET, OH, YOU UNFORTUNATELY CANNOT SEE MY CURSOR, BUT LET'S SAY THAT THE TOP RIGHT HOME OF THE THREE IS READY TO BUILD THE ACCESS ROAD WOULD NEED TO BE FULLY BUILT OUT.
BUT LET'S SAY THE MIDDLE RIGHT WAS READY TO BUILD IT, THE ROAD WOULD JUST NEED TO BE BUILT OUT TO THAT HOME AND THE UTILITIES WOULD JUST NEED TO EXTEND TO THAT HOME.
AND THEN AS THE REST OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS ARE READY TO BUILD, THEN IT WOULD EXTEND, AS YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING THAT WOULD IMPEDE THAT, THAT THAT HOMEOWNER HAVING HIS PROPERTY TRANSFERRED
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AND REGISTERED IN HIS NAME IN THE COUNTY, OWEN TOWN HILTON HEAD WITHOUT INFRASTRUCTURE MEETING PUT IN PLACE.IT SHOULDN'T BECAUSE WE, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I FOR UTILITIES AND ACCESS, GABRIEL, WERE YOU, WERE YOU REFERRING TO A SUBDIVISION RATHER THAN A COMPOUND? UM, QUESTION ON WHETHER THE DEEDED COULD BE RECORDED.
'CAUSE IN THIS CASE THE OWNERSHIP ON A COMPOUND DOESN'T CHANGE, IT'S JUST THEY'RE GETTING A PLAN APPROVED TO ADD MORE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SITE.
THEN MAYBE, UM, MAYBE MY REFERENCE WILL BE JUST OUTSIDE OF THE COMPOUND THEN MAYBE TO THE SUBDIVISION.
AND SO, UM, IS YOUR QUESTION THEN, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO RECORD A PLATT, UM, INSTEAD OF DOING THE DEVELOPMENT NOW SOME OF THAT IS, UM, IF YOU MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO GET THE PLATT APPROVED, WHICH DOES REQUIRE SOME LEVEL OF PLANNING, WHICH I THINK WILL BE AN AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT THAT WE WANNA TALK ABOUT.
UM, BUT LET'S JUST SAY THAT ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS ARE MET AND THAT WE CAN APPROVE, UH, A SUBDIVISION PLAT AND NO ONE'S READY TO DO ANY CONSTRUCTION.
ABSOLUTELY THAT PLATT COULD BE RECORDED AND THEN WHEN IT'S TIME TO DEVELOP, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE FIRST HOME IS GOING TO BE BUILT, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE ROAD WOULD BE BUILT TO THE POINT OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO IN THIS CASE, WHEN IT'S THE HOME IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER, THEN YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE ROAD IN YOUR DRIVEWAY UP TO THE POINT OF DEVELOPMENT, EXTEND THE UTILITIES TO THAT PARTICULAR POINT.
UM, BUT, BUT EVERY OTHER, OTHER FIVE PARCELS COULD BE DENT TO INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT INFRASTRUCTURE BEING IN PLACE? CORRECT? YES.
AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE PLAN APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT FAMILY SUBDIVISION UPFRONT, THEN YES, WE COULD STAMP THE PLAT AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT CAN TAKE PLACE.
UM, AT THE TIME THAT DEVELOPMENT IS BEING PROPOSED, UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE, THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT ON THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS THAT WE WILL GET TO.
SO, UH, A COMPOUND ONE LOT OWNED BY THE ENTIRE FAMILY, A SUBDIVISION WAS ONE LOT OWNED BY AN ENTIRE FAMILY AND NOW IT'S BEING SUBDIVIDED BY OWNERSHIP OR JUST TO BE ABLE TO SEPARATE THE DEVELOPMENT.
TYPICALLY, AND MISS, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M INCORRECT, BUT TYPICALLY WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS EITHER ONE OR MULTIPLE HEIRS OF A FAMILY WILL OWN A PARCEL AND THEN THEY WILL WORK WITH THEIR FAMILY.
LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY EIGHT PEOPLE HAVE OWNERSHIP RIGHTS TO THIS PARCEL, RIGHT? THEN THEY WILL WORK TOGETHER AND EACH PERSON DOES HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THE RIGHTS TO SUBDIVIDE.
AND THEN, THEN THOSE MEMBERS THAT HAVE SUBDIVIDED, THEY OWN JUST THEIR PART AND THE OTHER PARTS GO TO OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS.
AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEN YOU OWN TO THAT SUBDIVIDED LOT.
EACH PERSON WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN OR FAMILY MEMBERS WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN LOT NUMBER AND THEY WOULD HAVE THE DEED TO THAT, THAT PARCEL.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT IF IT'S HEIRS PROPERTY 'CAUSE UM, WELL YOU COULD I GUESS, BUT, UM, POSSIBLY MORE OF A CHALLENGE 'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE EVERYBODY IN THE SAME PLACE AGREEING TO WHO'S GOING TO GET WHAT.
SO A FAMILY SUBDIVISION TYPICALLY WOULDN'T BE FROM HEIRS PROPERTY.
WE DO SEE THEM FROM HEIRS PROPERTY AND I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND ANYONE TO PLEASE COME IN FOR OUR DESIGN STUDIO.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON THE PROPERTY AND WE CAN FOCUS ON THE FAMILY.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THOSE GOOD CONVERSATIONS OF WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT IS THE FAMILY LOOKING FOR? WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS WHERE SOMETIMES THE FAMILY MIGHT NOT AGREE ON LIKE ALL GOOD FAMILIES.
LIKE WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON WHAT WE WANT.
SO, UM, SOMETIMES THEY ARE FAMILY, UM, HEIRS PROPERTIES AND YEAH, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THEM COMING IN FOR DESIGN STUDIO TO TALK THROUGH THIS.
AND WE GO THROUGH DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND DIFFERENT LAYOUTS AND UM, WE TRY TO, TO HELP BRING THEM TO THIS STEP OF THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO FAMILY SUBDIVISION NOW THAT WE'RE CHATTING ABOUT IT.
SO I THINK MISSY HAS GONE THROUGH, UM, QUITE A LOT OF THE BACKGROUND AND INTENT.
SO I'M GONNA JUMP FROM DEFINITION TO PURPOSE AND INTENT.
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BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, IT'S TO AIM, IT AIMS TO CREATE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTIAL LOTS AS DISCUSSED THROUGHOUT THIS LARGER PROPERTY.UM, AND I WANNA JUST FOCUS ON THE GRAPHIC.
I THINK IT REALLY NICELY SHOWS WHEN YOU HAVE A TYPICAL SUBDIVISION, YOU HAVE, UM, MULTIPLE SETBACKS FROM THE ROAD.
YOU HAVE MULTIPLE SETBACKS, UM, FROM ADJACENT USE, YOU HAVE SETBACKS FROM UH, STORM STORMWATER AND EASEMENTS AND, UM, VARYING PROPERTIES.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE SETBACKS AND BUFFERS FOR A FAMILY SUBDIVISION ARE REDUCED.
AND LATER ON WE WILL GO THROUGH KIND OF SIDE BY SIDE WHAT THEY ARE FOR A REGULAR SUBDIVISION, WHAT THEY ARE FOR REGULAR APPLICATIONS, AND THEN WHAT THEY ARE FOR, UM, FAMILY APPLICATIONS.
THE INTENT OF THIS APPLICATION TYPE IS TO ASSIST LOCAL FAMILIES BY CREATING A COHESIVE SUBDIVISION.
UM, REDUCE ANY IMPACT FEES ASSOCIATED WITH BEING A SUBDIVISION, IMPROVE ROAD SETBACKS AS DISCUSSED BUFFER SETBACKS, UM, AND TYPICALLY DESIGN SOMETHING THAT IS MORE COHESIVE, UM, WHERE WE WON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, SMALLER LOTS OR IMPACTS FROM MAJOR ROADWAY DESIGN.
SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE TWO CASE STUDIES THAT WE HAVE FOR FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS.
UM, BOTH OF THESE ARE IN PROGRESS.
SO THE FIRST SUBDIVISION IS A CASE STUDY WHERE WE WE'RE ALMOST THERE AND TALKING WITH THE CASE MANAGER, WE NEED TO ADD A FIRE HYDRANT TO THE PLAN.
AND THIS IS WHERE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SUBDIVISION FROM A PLAT STANDPOINT AND FROM A SUBDIVISION, UH, REQUIREMENT STANDPOINT FROM OUR LMO, THERE ARE QUITE A LOT OF UTILITY REQUIREMENTS THAT COME INTO PLAY THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS PUT ON THE PLAT, BUT WE WANT TO BE CONSIDERED.
SO FIRE HYDRANTS ARE ONE OF THEM.
UM, OF COURSE WATER AND SEWER.
SO A LOT OF REALLY GOOD, I WOULD SAY BEHIND THE SCENES WITH THE FAMILY CONVERSATIONS HAPPEN BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO A SURVEYOR OR YOUR PLATTING, UM, STEP.
SO CASE STUDY NUMBER ONE IS WORKING OUT THAT, UH, FIRE HYDRANT CONFIGURATION.
AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S THEIR MAIN, UM, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT AN OBSTACLE, BUT THEIR MAIN NEXT STEP THAT THEY NEED TO COORDINATE TO, UM, GET APPROVAL ON THEIR FINAL PLATT AVERAGE COST OF A FIRE HYDRANT.
I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE PSD, UM, BUT I HAVE HEARD IT'S MY ROUGH SWAG NUMBER BEING AN ENGINEER IS FOUR TO 6,000.
UM, THAT THAT'S FROM THE SOUTH END.
PSD, THEY'RE ROUGH APPROXIMATION.
I THINK THIS IS ON THE NORTH END, SO THAT WOULD BE HILTON HEAD, PSD AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY'RE ABOUT THE SAME SOMEWHERE IN THE SAME BALLPARK.
UM, AND THAT'S WHERE, AGAIN, WHETHER YOU'RE IN THEIR DESIGN STUDIO PHASE OR YOU HAVE YOUR ACTIVE APPLICATION, YOUR CASE MANAGER CAN HELP CONNECT YOU TO THE UTILITY AND REALLY SHOULD ALREADY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE PSD GOING.
AND I, I THINK HE DOES HAVE IT GOING WITH THE, THE PSD FAMILY SOLUTION IS FIRE HYDRANT COST.
AND I, I DO KNOW THAT WORKING WITH, UM, THE FIRE, THE FIRE CHIEF THAT WE, WE TRY AS HARD AS POSSIBLE TO SAY, OKAY, I THINK WE NEED 500 TO A THOUSAND FEET, WHERE'S THE FARTHEST HOME GOING TO BE? AND THEN WE TRY TO, WE TRY TO GET AS REASONABLE AS WE CAN WHERE WE STILL ARE PROVIDING A SAFE SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE HAVING LOTS IN THESE SUBDIVISIONS, UM, WITHOUT BEING OVERLY RESTRICTIVE.
UM, BUT I'LL GET WITH THE CASE MANAGER ON THAT BECAUSE I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY'VE LANDED WITH THAT.
UM, ARE THERE ANY FUNDS TO HELP THEM PAY FOR A FIRE HYDRANT? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
SO THE ANSWER THAT I WOULD GIVE IS NOT REALLY AN ANSWER, BUT, UH, ARE CERTAINLY ANTICIPATING WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION MIGHT BRING TO THE TABLE.
ITEMS LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT FIRE HYDRANTS IN PARTICULAR.
TALK ABOUT PEOPLE DEVELOPING THEIR PROPERTY.
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I'M SORRY, YVONNE, IS YOUR MIC ON YOUR IT'S HARD TO HEAR.IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ON THE LIGHT IS ON.
DO I NEED TO SPEAK UP? I CAN HEAR YOU.
THAT ONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A RAPPER
I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION AND I THINK IT'S ALONG WITH THE CDC, IT'S, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY AND AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT FOR THESE APPLICATION TYPES FOR SURE.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH THE CDC AT SOME OUR TASK FORCE.
SO YOU MAYBE INVITE, UH, THE DIRECTOR TO THE NEW DIRECTOR'S.
FIRST DAY WAS TODAY, SO, OKAY.
WHERE IS HE? HE'S, I DON'T DUNNO, TOURING MAYBE.
WE'LL MAKE SURE TO GET THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CDC IN FRONT OF THE TASK FORCE SHORTLY.
AND MAYBE TO THE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY, THOUGH.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA IF HE CAN ATTEND THE, UM, THE LIBRARY AT USCB.
AND HOPEFULLY OUR NEXT, UH, TASK FORCE MEETING.
OUR NEXT CASE STUDY, UM, IS ALSO UNDER CORRECTIONS REQUIRED.
THEY HAVE QUITE A FEW STAFF COMMENTS, SO I WAS GOING THROUGH THEM AND I WAS GOING THROUGH THEM WITH THE CASE MANAGER AS WELL.
UH, THEY HAVE SOME ADDRESSING INCONSISTENCIES, SO THIS IS DISCUSSION AMONG THE FAMILY.
I DO WANT TO KEEP THEIR, UM, I DO WANNA RESPECT THEIR PRIVACY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, WE HAVE SOME COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY ASSESSOR OFFICE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
THAT IS BETWEEN THE CASE MANAGER AND THE FAMILY.
I KNOW THAT HE'S WORKING ON IT WITH THEM.
UM, AND THEN AS STATED IN THE LMO, IF THEY WERE TO, UM, EVENTUALLY SELL THE PROPERTY, UM, ACCESS WOULD NEED TO BE INSTALLED.
AND I THINK THAT'S AN AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT TOO, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMMUNICATE ACCESS DOES NOT NEED TO BE CONSTRUCTED RIGHT AWAY.
THERE'S JUST CERTAIN DOORS AND WINDOWS LIKE SELLING YOUR PROPERTY THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE ACCESS TO THEN BE INSTALLED FOR THE NEW OWNER.
UM, THERE ARE SOME LANDSCAPING PLAN REQUIREMENTS, AND THAT'S ANOTHER AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT THAT I HOPE WE CAN DISCUSS HERE SHORTLY.
UM, AND THEN AS, AS SUMMARIZED BEFORE, YEAH, THE READDRESSING COMPONENT IS, UM, THE MOST CHALLENGING PART OF THIS APPLICATION AND, AND THAT'S COMING FROM THEIR CASE MANAGER.
UM, SO CASE STUDY NUMBER ONE HERE IS THE DRAFT, UM, PLAID AND SUBDIVISION.
TYPICALLY, UM, THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT STILL EXIST LIKE SIX FIVE OR MORE.
LOTS REQUIRE A 30 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THIS HERE.
UM, FOR FIRE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TURNAROUND.
UM, BUT WE HAVE REDUCED, UM, ACCESS SETBACKS, REDUCED ADJACENT SETBACKS, REDUCED BUFFERS, UM, AND THEN I BELIEVE, I'M NOT THE CASE MANAGER, BUT I BELIEVE THE FAMILY INTENDED FOR THE PARCELS TO BE AS EQUIVALENT AS POSSIBLE, WHICH IS STANDARD TO WHAT WE SEE.
UM, AND THEN CASE STUDY NUMBER TWO, THIS ONE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, SO WE ARE NOT SPLITTING THE PARCEL EQUALLY HERE, BUT ATTRACT A AND ATTRACT B.
UM, THE MAJOR CHANGES YOU SEE HERE IS TO THE RIGHT IS TRACK B.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S TWO ACCESSES HERE, AND THIS IS WHERE, UM, WITH BUFORT COUNTY WE NEED TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS, UM, TO THE ADDRESSING THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A PAPERWORK EXERCISE.
AND I, I KNOW THE CASE MANAGER IS ON IT FOR THIS ONE, SO HE'S ON IT FOR ALL OF THEM.
BUT, SO WITH THAT, THE NEXT THREE SLIDES HAVE A TON OF INFORMATION.
THIS INFORMATION IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WAS APPROVED, UM, FROM THE COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, IN 2021.
AND I THINK DURING THIS DISCUSSION, WE CAN COME BACK TO THESE TABLES IF WE NEED TO BECAUSE THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE ON.
I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER EVERYTHING.
OH, CAN YOU SEE MY MOUSE NOW? UM, MINIMUM PLANTING REQUIREMENTS, THIS IS A BIG AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT.
UH, WHEN WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THESE APPLICATIONS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING GOOD FEEDBACK, UM, TO APPLICANTS.
AND AS YOU SEE IN THE CURRENT AND THE PREVIOUS SECTION OF THE LMO, THEY WERE VERY, VERY SPECIFIC BY BUFFER TYPE AND BY OPTION.
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AND, UH, WE CAN DEFINITELY MINIMIZE THOSE, BUT WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE? UM, SO THAT WE'RE FAIR AND CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL APPLICATIONS.UM, SO THIS IS THE TABLE FOR FAMILY COMPOUND.
AND THEN THE NEXT TWO SLIDES ARE FOR FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
UM, EACH ONE GOES OVER ACCESS, SETBACKS, BUFFERS FROM CURRENT LMO TO THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WERE APPROVED IN JUNE, OR I'M SORRY, JULY OF 2021.
UM, SO AGAIN, I THINK WE CAN COME BACK TO THESE AS COMMENTS COME UP.
I, I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING, SORRY TO JUMP IN.
UM, THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT, AND ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CURSOR'S SHOWING UP YES, IS THAT THIS IS WHAT BEFORE THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND SUBDIVISION WERE ADOPTED, THE CURRENT LMO REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH SETBACKS AND BUFFERS IN ACCESS AND HOW WHAT WAS ADOPTED IS LESSER REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE SETBACKS FOR THOSE BUFFERS AND FOR THE MINIMUM PLANTING REQUIREMENTS.
SO WHAT WAS ADOPTED, UM, DID IMPLEMENT AS, UH, WAS STATED ON THESE CHARTS THAT YES, NOW THE BOTH FOR THE COMPOUNDS AND FOR ON THE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS, THE, UM, ACCESS SETBACKS BUFFERS, UM, ARE REDUCED FOR BOTH APPLICATION TYPES.
AND SO HOW THEY COMPARE WITH, UH, THE, THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS IS WHAT THESE CHARTS WERE MEANT TO EXPLAIN.
UM, AND SO THESE ARE CHARTS THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE, UM, GOING THROUGH DESIGN STUDIO WITH FAMILIES AND WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROS AND CONS OF UTILIZING EITHER THE ABBREVIATED DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW PROCESS VERSUS A FAMILY COMPOUND OR WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF THE MINOR SUBDIVISION PROCESS VERSUS THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION PROCESS.
SO WE MAP OUT REGULARLY, OKAY, IF YOU WERE GONNA GO THROUGH A MINOR SUBDIVISION, THESE WOULD BE YOUR SETBACKS AND ACCESS REQUIREMENTS.
IF YOU'RE GONNA DO A FAMILY SUBDIVISION, IT COULD LOOK LIKE THIS.
AND SO WE REGULARLY DO THAT EXERCISE JUST TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCES AND MAKE SURE THE FAMILIES UNDERSTAND, UM, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE APPLICATION, UH, REQUIREMENTS AND SOME OF THE STRINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH THOSE, UM, WHICH I THINK ARE WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN SOME OF THE OTHER SLIDES.
SO YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY FOR THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, AND I FORGET WHAT THOSE QUALIFICATIONS ARE.
UM, SAME FAMILY 56, UM, LOCATED IN HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND IT GIVES YOU MORE DENSITY.
YOU CAN PUT MORE HOUSES ON THE PROPERTY, UM, PER PERHAPS BECAUSE OF THE SMALLER SETBACKS, ET CETERA.
AND, BUT YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY THEN WHEN YOU GET THOSE PROPERTIES, SUBDIVIDED, SELL THEM TO ANYBODY AND GO MORE THAN QUALIFICATIONS BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY SUBDIVIDED IT.
SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR APPLIED SUBDIVISION AND YOU WANT TO COME IN AND DEVELOP, LET'S SAY YOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOME, YOU'D STILL HAVE TO COME IN FOR A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW FOR AN APPLICATION BEFORE YOU CONSTRUCT THIS IS AFTER YOUR FAMILY SUBDIVISION APPLICATION IS APPROVED.
AND THEN, UM, SO IF YOU WERE TO SELL THE PROPERTY AND NOT BE OF THE SAME FAMILY, UM, OR LEGALLY ADOPTED OR, UM, YOU KNOW, OWNED SINCE 56, THOSE SETBACKS AND BUFFERS WOULD NO LONGER APPLY.
RIGHT? SO THE WAY IT WAS DRAFTED, WHICH IS GOING TO BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE DI I'LL SAY, IS THAT IF YOU WERE TO SELL YOUR PROPERTY, THEN THE REDUCED SETBACK BUFFERS AND ACCESS ARE RESCINDED AND YOU NEED TO REPL IT AT THE REGULAR SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO, SO THAT IS, UM, IS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT WITH THE FAMILIES THAT ARE DOING FAMILY SUBDIVISION, THAT IF THERE IS A SALE OUTSIDE OF THESE REQUIREMENTS, UM, THAT MEET THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY, UM, THEN IT THEN IT CHANGES THAT APPROVAL, UM, IF THE HOUSE IS ALREADY BUILT.
WELL, WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED THAT YET, BUT, UM, WE WILL, WE WILL, WE WILL MAP THAT OUT.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY, UM, IT MAY BE THAT THE OTHER NON DEVELOPED LOTS WOULD GET ADJUSTED WITH THE SETBACKS AND BUFFERS AND ACCESS THEY'RE REQUIRED.
UM, BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I THINK, UM, WHEN WE DISCUSSED WITH A GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS IS AN AREA THAT, THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UM, FROM AN IMPLEMENTATION STANDPOINT, IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO ADMINISTER.
SO, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THAT, UM, FURTHER WITH THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP AND WITH, UM, OUR NEW CODE CONSULTANTS TO, TO MAP OUT HOW THAT PROCESS COULD UNFOLD.
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IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADOPTED.SO THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE CODE THAT IF THE PROPERTY WERE TO BE SOLD TO SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS, THEN IT UNDOES THAT THAT FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND HAS TO BE YEAH.
SO SOUNDS LIKE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR THE CODE, RIGHT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
AND I WANTED TO ALSO, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT IT, THAT THESE APPLICATION TYPES ALLOW MORE DENSITY NOW, IT, IT DOESN'T ALLOW ANY MORE DENSITY.
IT DOES ALLOW WITH THE REDUCED SETBACKS AND BUFFERS MORE LAND AREA THAT YOU HAVE YOUR DEVELOPABLE AREA, BUT IT IS NOT A CHANGE IN, IN THE DENSITIES THAT ARE ALLOWED BIGGER BUT NOT MORE.
THE DENSITY DISCUSSION COMES IN SOMEWHERE.
SO I THINK UNDER DISTRICT PLANNING IS CORRECT.
SO WHILE THE DEVELOPABLE AREA, THE AREA THAT YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE BE MORE HOMES THAN WHAT THE DENSITY ALLOWS.
SO IF THE TOWN PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY, WOULD THAT APPLY TO THE TOWN AS WELL IN TERMS OF FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES OR IF THEY DECIDE TO DEVELOP IT LATER? OR SORRY.
UM, HOW, HOW WOULD THAT THE LANGUAGE HERE WOULD APPLY TO THE TOWN IF THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FROM EDGE PROPERTY OR FAMILIES? WELL, THE TOWN WOULDN'T MEET THESE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE TOWN WOULD NOT DEVELOP UNDER A FAMILY COMPOUND OR FAMILY SUBDIVISION APPLICATION TYPE.
THEY WOULD NOT, NO, THE TOWN WOULD NOT THE TOWN WOULD DEVELOP UNDER WHATEVER USE THE PROPERTY WOULD BE PER THE REQUIREMENTS OF WHATEVER WAS BEING DEVELOPED.
SO MULTI-FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, AND JUST ONE LAST COMMENT, I, IF AN APPLICATION WERE TO COME IN TODAY WHERE THERE WAS, UM, LET'S SAY A NEWER HOME THAT WAS BUILT UNDER THESE FAMILY COMPOUND FAMILY SUBDIVISION, AND THEN THAT LOT WAS SOLD TO SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, IT, IT WOULD BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE HANDLED AS AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMITY.
UM, IF THEY WERE TO REDO THE HOME, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE UNDER THE NEW SUBDIVISION PLATTED RIGHTS, BUT IF THE HOME WERE TO STAY, UM, THEN IT WOULD BE AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMITY UNTIL IT WAS REPLACED.
SO THEY WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN UNTIL THEIR HOME IS REPLACED.
WE WOULDN'T MAKE ANYONE TAKE A HOME DOWN.
SO ROUNDING OUT FROM THE TABLES, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY WORKING, BUT AGAIN, I WANNA FOCUS ON WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE WHAT WE CAN BRING TO THE CODE WRITER.
I THINK WE'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON SOME VERY GOOD ITEMS HERE.
UM, BUT BASED ON LMO LANGUAGE SQUEAKING THIS BETTER.
SO BASED ON THE LMO LANGUAGE AND HOW WE IMPLEMENT THESE APPLICATIONS, THEY ARE FAST TRACKED.
UM, SO IF WE GET A FAMILY COMPOUND FAMILY SUBDIVISION APPLICATION, THEY ARE BROUGHT TO THE TOP OF A CASE MANAGER'S PRIORITY.
UM, OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS OF ARE DELINEATED, WHICH MAKES THE APPLICATION PROCESS EVEN EASIER, UM, WHEN WE HAVE APPLICATIONS COME IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE FUNNELED UNDER THE CORRECT PROCESS.
UM, IMPROVEMENTS AND REDUCTIONS TO IMPACT FEES AND THEN DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS TO OVERALL LAYOUTS.
UH, I WOULD SAY SUBDIVISION AND FAMILY COMPOUND, UM, FROM OUR DESIGN STUDIO PROCESS.
AND WE, WE ARE PLANNING ON TO CONTINUE IMPROVE THAT PROCESS AS WELL.
SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS. THIS IS NOT EVERYTHING, UH, BUT FROM A STAFF LEVEL, UH, A CASE MANAGER REVIEW PERSPECTIVE, UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
AND I, PLEASE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN.
UM, BUT COORDINATION WITH LOCAL PSDS, WE TOUCHED ON SOME OF THE FIRE HYDRANT ISSUES.
UM, THIS ALSO SPEAKS TO SEWER AND WATER CONNECTION.
UM, WE REALLY NEED TO BRING THEM IN ON THE DISCUSSION AS A PLAN REVIEWER.
UH, WE DON'T DO THAT ENOUGH AND WE'RE WORKING TO IMPROVE THAT PROCESS FOR ALL OF OUR PLAN REVIEW TYPES.
UM, SO THAT DEPENDS ON CONSTRUCTION SEQUENCING, UM, AND PHASING AND, AND WHEN THE FAMILY IS PLANNING TO CONSTRUCT, UM, STORMWATER AND SITE DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THEM, THE TURNAROUNDS, UM, THE, WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED MUCH ON STORMWATER, BUT SOME OF THESE SITES HAVE NATURAL STORMWATER FEATURES.
SO WORKING WITH FAMILIES AT THAT, UM, THAT EARLY ON PHASE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EITHER TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE PLAN FOR HOW STORMWATER WILL BE MANAGED ON THE SITE OR WE HAVE, UM, A STORMWATER
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EASEMENT TO HANDLE THAT.UM, THIS IS A NEW NEWER ONE THAT I THINK WILL BE A BIG CONVERSATION TOO, IS COMMERCIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, WERE NOT ENVISIONED FOR THIS APPLICATION TYPE AT THE TIME OF ITS INCEPTION.
IT JUST WASN'T THE CONVERSATION.
BUT, UM, I THINK GOING INTO PHASE FIVE, THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE ALL SHOULD REALLY TALK ABOUT AND DISCUSS.
UM, ESPECIALLY THOSE ZONING WHEN WE TALKED AT THE BEGINNING AND WE SAW THE LIGHT COMMERCIAL ZONING, UM, MULTIPLE ZONING TYPES, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR TOWN HOMES OR APARTMENTS OR ARE, ARE THESE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS INTERESTED IN? IS IT, ARE THESE THINGS THAT COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY HAVE AN APPETITE FOR? SO JUST SOMETHING TO PONDER THERE.
UM, AND THEN CLARITY IS NEEDED ON BUFFERS AS, OH, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON.
SO THE COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, YES.
IS THIS A PLACE WHERE, UH, THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE WHO OPERATE LIKE A HOME BUSINESS? I THINK IT'S AN AREA FOR OPPORTUNITY THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO PHASE FIVE, I THINK.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ASK TO BE CONSIDERED AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
AND I KNOW THE BUSINESSES HAVE TO BE WITHIN REASON, BUT IN SOME OF OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT WAYS PEOPLE USE THEIR PROPERTY, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE CULTURE TO FOR PRESERVATION AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
THIS WAS ALSO ADDED BECAUSE, UM, THE ZONING DISTRICTS, THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, MIXED, UM, USE, UH, DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND, UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS THAT MEET THE NEEDS IF THE USE IS GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL AND NOT SINGLE FAMILY, AND THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO PROCESS A SUBDIVISION FOR WHATEVER THE UNDERLYING ZONING USES ARE FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHERE THAT PARCEL IS LOCATED.
SO, UM, AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, UM, WHAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION THROUGH THE REVIEW AND UM, PUBLIC PROCESS WAS THAT THIS WAS A FAMILY SUBDIVISION FOR A SINGLE FAMILY.
HOWEVER, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE APPLICATION TYPES ARE ALLOWED IN THOSE MI MIXED USE DISTRICTS WHERE COMMERCIAL USES AND ACTIVITIES ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TOUCH ON THAT FAMILIES WERE KNOWN FOR, YOU KNOW, THEIR CERTAIN ECONOMIC TYPES AND I THINK KEEPING THAT CULTURE WITH WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THESE APPLICATION TYPES IS IMPORTANT.
SO, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT THE END BY ANY MEANS OF THIS CONVERSATION, SO, OKAY.
UM, UM, ACCESS ISSUES JUST TO TOUCH ON KIND OF NOT THE LAST AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT, BUT ANOTHER ONE IS, THIS IS TYPICALLY A TIMING THING.
UM, WE HAVE A NEW, WE HAVE A STREET NAME PROCESS, UM, AN ADDRESSING PROCESS.
UM, THIS IS JUST AN INTERNAL WORKING WITH AN APPLICANT.
I KNOW AS A CASE MANAGER FOR SOME OF THESE THAT WE TRY TO MINIMIZE ANY CONFLICTS, WHETHER THAT BE A NEW ACCESS ON A STATE OR COUNTY ROAD.
'CAUSE THOSE ENCROACHMENT PERMITS CAN BE TIME CONSUMING AND UNNECESSARY.
IF A FAMILY ALREADY HAS AN ACCESS ROAD, WE TRY TO UTILIZE EXISTING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND THEN SOMETHING I DIDN'T NOTE ON HERE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS TOO THAT WE, WE SPOKE ABOUT LIGHTLY IS, UM, LEGAL COORDINATION FOR ACCESS EASEMENTS, STORMWATER EASEMENTS.
UM, I, I THINK HAVING THIS BE AN EITHER ON THE APPLICATION TYPE OR THE APPLICATION FORM, UM, THAT COULD BE AN AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY, THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, UM, THAT EVERYTHING IS, IS BUTTONED UP FOR EASEMENTS AND ACCESS AND ALL THAT.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I'D LOVE TO OPEN IT UP FOR MORE DISCUSSION.
I'VE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NOTES ON HERE FOR BUSINESSES FOR RESELLING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE HOW TO ADMINISTER THAT, THE ADMINISTRATION OF THAT FROM THE CODE, UM, UM, COORDINATION WITH THE CDC ASSISTANCE FOR COSTLY ITEMS, WHETHER IT'S UTILITIES OR ACCESS, UM, OR ENGINEERING SERVICES.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT TO DISCUSS HERE.
UM, BUT THE ACCESS ISSUES, EXCUSE ME.
UM, I JUST REMEMBER CONVERSATIONS WE HAD AND, UH, MAYBE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES CAN HELP ME WITH THIS.
HISTORICALLY, THERE HAVE BEEN ACCESSES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT MAY NOT MATCH WITH WHAT THE TOWN OR THE COUNTY HAS FOR ITS RECORDS.
FROM WHAT YOU JUST SAID, YOU WOULD MAYBE TRY TO WORK
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WITH THE BEST PLACE TO PUT THOSE ACCESS POINTS IN, OR YOU HAVE TO ADVISE US ON EXACTLY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.UM, SO I THINK THAT THE ACCESS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES, IF IT CAUSES ANY, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS WITH A DELAY IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
UM, YEAH, AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO ALSO HOW THESE APPLICATIONS ARE ADMINISTERED.
UM, I HOPE THAT EVERY FAMILY OR APPLICANT IS OPEN TO MEETING, HAVING AN INITIAL JUST FACT FINDING MEETING OR DISCUSSION.
'CAUSE I THINK IDENTIFYING, I DON'T WANNA CALL THEM RISKS, BUT WE'LL JUST SAY LIKE, THINGS THAT COULD IMPACT YOUR TIMELINE ON DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS THOSE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND THEN TRY TO MARRY THEM UP WITH WHAT THE FAMILY'S HOPING TO DO.
I HAVE A QUESTION DIRECTLY RELATED, IS THIS RELATED? IT'S RELATED IN THE REWRITE
LET'S SAY THAT THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE A FAMILY THAT HAS A CERTAIN DENSITY NOW, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
WOULD THEY BE LOCKED INTO A FAMILY COMPOUND SUBDIVISION AT A CURRENT
SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE HURDLES RIGHT NOW WITH THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IS THAT IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ENTITLEMENTS THAT ARE ALLOWED ON THOSE PROPERTIES, THAT THIS IS A KIND OF ONE, ONE OPPORTUNITY KIND OF APPLICATION TYPE.
UM, SO THAT'S DEFINITELY AN AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT.
UM, IT'S ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD SINCE THESE APPLICATION TYPES HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ON THE BOOKS, IS THAT IF THERE IS THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT A POSSIBLE OVERLAY OR ABOUT WHAT KIND OF DENSITIES MIGHT BE CALIBRATED THROUGH THE DISTRICT PLANNING PROCESS, WHY WOULD WE SUBDIVIDE NOW AT THE CURRENT DENSITIES WHEN WE SHOULD WAIT FOR THIS OTHER ENTITLEMENTS? IF, IF THAT'S WHAT, WHAT OCCURS WITH THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION.
SO, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS AN AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT AS WELL, THAT WE WOULD SHOULD LOOK AT BECAUSE, UM, WITH MOST SUBDIVISION APPLICATION TYPES, IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD AMEND OVER TIME IF, IF THE SITUATION CHANGES.
SO, UM, BUT JUST, JUST KIND OF LIKE THE PROCESS, WHEN WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO A MEETING WITH OUR NEW CODE CONSULTANT, UM, THE TEAM HAS, UM, WITH THE CURRENT CODE, UM, FOR FAMILY COMPOUND AND SUBDIVISION, HAVE IDENTIFIED AND HIGHLIGHTED AREAS WHERE EITHER CLARIFICATION IS NEEDED OR WHERE PROCESSES MAYBE ARE OR AREN'T WORKING.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE ARE HOPING TO MAP OUT ADDITIONAL AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT THAT WE WOULD THEN SAY, OKAY, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS, WE'VE, WE'VE PROCESSED SEVERAL APPLICATIONS.
GOSH, THESE ONES SIT ON HOLD BECAUSE OF REASONS A, B, AND C, OR SOME DON'T EVEN MAKE APPLICATION TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE THE BARRIERS ARE EVEN OUTSIDE OF MAKING AN APPLICATION.
AND SO WE WANT TO PROVIDE AS MUCH INPUT UPFRONT SO THAT NUMBER ONE, WE CAN MAKE THESE APPLICATION TYPES BETTER.
AND NUMBER TWO, WE CAN STREAMLINE THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND, UH, GIVE THE CODE WRITING ZONE AS MUCH INFORMATION TO HELP US MAKE THESE PROCESSES BETTER AND MORE USABLE FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSE.
SO THAT IS OUR COMMITMENT TO THE PROCESS.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE NO, LIKE, REMOVAL OF THESE APPLICATION TYPES, BUT JUST BETTERMENT OF THESE APPLICATION TYPES IN THE REWRITE.
SO THE OTHER PART OF THAT QUESTION, I GUESS, UM, MAY BE FOR THE CONSULTANT OF THE CORONAVIRUS, WELL, THERE'S NO PROCESS FOR APPEALING AN APPLICATION.
IF IT WAS TO THE QUESTION THAT WE ASKED BEFORE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GO BACK AROUND TO LIKE A DESIGN AND REVIEW BOARD? OR DOES IT GO SOMEWHERE ELSE? OR DOES IT STAY WITHIN THIS PROCESS? YEAH.
UM, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, UM, WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR THAT.
I THINK THAT THAT GOES THROUGH OUR STANDARD APPEAL PROCESS FOR ANY DECISION.
UM, AND THEN THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE BOARD.
SO THAT MAY BE A WAY TO, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
AND WE'LL REVIEW IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT IF THERE'S A DECISION, WHAT'S THE APPEAL LIKE, WE'LL MAP OUT, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD WHEN WE'RE IN THE ACTUAL REWRITE PROCESS AND WE HAVE SOME SOMETHING OF SUBSTANCE TO BRING TO THE TASK FORCE ON WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
AND IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO NAVIGATE AN APPROVAL OR HOW TO NAVIGATE, UM, A DECISION THAT YOU WANT TO APPEAL, WHAT IS THE ROADMAP TO DO? SO,
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTION.I DO HAVE A THOUGHT THAT PERHAPS WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TODAY THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE SET ASIDE SOME TIME JUST TO DEAL WITH THIS AS A SINGLE ITEM AND THEN KIND OF DISSECT IT AS A SINGLE ITEM.
UM, WE, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, THE REVIEW.
UM, WE CAN HAVE THIS ON, UM, THE AGENDA NEXT MONTH AS WELL TO KIND OF, NOW THAT WE DID THE OVERVIEW, WE CAN DIVE RIGHT INTO TALKING MORE ABOUT AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
WE CAN BETTER MAP OUT WHAT WE HEARD TODAY AND HAVE IT ON A SCREEN AS A STARTING POINT.
I, I THINK THAT, UH, I LIKE WHAT WE DID BEFORE AND WE COULD CERTAINLY ENGAGE SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL TO GET SOME INPUT AND NOT REALLY WAIT TILL THE MEETING.
SO WE SURE WE CAN DO THAT AGAIN AHEAD OF TIME AS WELL.
SORRY, COULD WE LIKE, DO A WORKSHOP A NOT A NOT OFFICIAL MEETING, BUT AN UNOFFICIAL WORKSHOP WHERE WE GET TALK FREELY AND, AND LEARN AND LEARN FROM OUR NEIGHBORS AND THAT A POSSIBILITY.
WE ARE A PUBLIC BODY, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IT AS A PUBLIC MEETING, BUT WE COULD DO A WORKSHOP STYLE IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR INTEREST WAS.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHERS THINK.
IT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG PRODUCTION, BUT, UH, THERE'S NOT OTHER ITEMS WE HAVE FOR OUR MEETINGS AND WE KIND OF DEALING WITH IT HERE.
UM, LIKE TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF IT BEFORE THE MEETING, MAKE THE MEETINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE FRUITFUL WHEN PEOPLE ARE MORE EDUCATED, THEY COME WITH EDUCATED QUESTIONS.
I THINK, UH, CHAIR, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT US MEETING AGAIN WITH THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP, FLESHING THE AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND THEN BRINGING THIS SLIDE WITH THE RESULTS OF THAT MEETING BACK TO THE TASK FORCE IN DECEMBER SO THAT THE TASK FORCE CAN HAVE ONE MORE LOOK AT IT.
IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? YEAH.
I'M OPEN TO OTHER IDEAS, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE INFORMATION AT ANY TIME, LIKE PHONE CALLS ADVANCE.
JUST TO REITERATE MY POINT, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE MEETING TO ASK THE QUESTIONS.
I THINK, I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHERE THE, THE, THE, THE EMPHASIS ON THE TREES WASN'T AS, AS HIGHLIGHTED AS IT IS NOW.
AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT? IT, IT IS LESSER, UM, BUFFER REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE PLANTING, UM, REQUIREMENTS ARE, ARE LESS THAN LIKE A REGULAR, UM, ABBREVIATED DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW OR MINOR SUBDIVISION.
UM, WHAT IT IS STATED HERE IS THAT WHILE IT WAS APPROVED WITH MINIMUM PLANTING REQUIREMENTS WAS THE VERBIAGE AS IT WAS APPROVED, IT DIDN'T CORRELATE WITH A BUFFER TYPE IN OUR BUFFER TABLE IN THE CODE.
AND SO FROM, THAT'S MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, COMPONENT IS THAT IF YOU'VE GOT A REDUCED BUFFER OF ONLY FIVE FEET, WELL WHAT CAN REALLY BE PLANTED WITHIN FIVE FEET? UM, IF IT'S STILL THE SAME TYPE A OR TYPE B BUFFER PLANTING SCHEDULE, IT PROBABLY ISN'T GONNA FIT OR REMAIN HEALTHY.
AND SO WHAT WE WERE SUGGESTING ON THAT CLARITY NEEDED WAS THAT IT LIKELY NEEDS A, A NEW AMENDED BUFFER TYPE THAT WOULD APPLY TO THESE APPLICATIONS.
THAT IS A MUCH MORE REDUCED PLANTING PLAN REQUIREMENT GIVEN OUR, UM, VOLUME OF, OF REQUESTS FOR FAMILY COMPOUND ASSISTANCE AND, AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION ASSISTANCE.
CAN WE GLEAN FROM THAT THAT THIS IS, UM, REALLY CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT TO HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOODS OR, OR MAYBE NOT SO MUCH? OR IS IT TOO SOON TO TELL A LOT OF THESE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE VERY FEW OF THESE.
OVERSEEING THE DESIGN STUDIO, UM, APPLICATIONS OR INQUIRIES, I'D SAY THESE MAKE UP ABOUT 10% OR LESS OF THOSE INQUIRIES.
SO WE'VE HAD 11, I BELIEVE, APPLICATIONS FOR BOTH TYPES.
UM, IT'S, IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF THINGS, LIKE YOU'VE MENTIONED THE COMMUNITY MIGHT BE WAITING FOR PHASE FIVE CHANGES.
UM, AGAIN, I THINK THAT CONVERSATION IS TOTALLY OPEN.
I DON'T WANNA MAKE ANY SPECULATIONS, BUT I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE, EVEN IF SOMEONE IS UNSURE THAT THEY WANT TO COME FORWARD WITH A FAMILY SUB OR FAMILY COMPOUND APPLICATION, PLEASE COME FORWARD WITH A DESIGN STUDIO.
'CAUSE THAT IS A FREE SERVICE.
AND, AND WE WILL WORK THROUGH A LOT OF THESE ISSUES AND TRY TO RESOLVE
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THOSE COMMENTS BEFORE YOU EVEN START THESE APPLICATIONS.UM, BUT THAT'S ALL I CAN SPEAK TO ON THOSE.
YOU'LL KEEP WORKING IN THAT DIRECTION.
UH, MR. WHITE, I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP.
UM, SO APPRECIATE PRESENTATION.
UM, SO ONE CRITICAL AREA OF IMPROVEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE UP THERE, I THINK IN ALL MEETINGS IS THERE'S A THREE YEAR BAN ON FAMILIES FROM BEING ABLE TO SELL OR SORT OF AT LEAST LEASE TO AN OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY THEIR LAND IF THEY DO A FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
SO I THINK FOR SOME, THAT IS A REASON THAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING MORE, RIGHT? SO IT SORT OF CONTINUES SORT OF TO, TO FORCE FAMILIES TO, IN SOME INSTANCES SELL, UH, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY, EVEN IF THERE ARE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT SORT OF LIVE HERE THAT WANNA STAY ON LAND AND FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT FROM HERE THAT WANT TO MONETIZE THE LAND ARE WILLING TO GIVE THE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS HERE THEIR LAND, THEY CAN'T UNDER THIS.
SO THEN WHAT OFTENTIMES HAPPENS IS PARTITION ACTION OR HEIRS PROPERTIES HAVE THEY HAVE TO SELL.
SO I THINK THE BIGGEST, ONE OF THE BIGGEST AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT UNDER FAMILY SUBDIVISION IS THE REMOVAL OF THAT THREE YEAR CONDITION ON BEING ABLE TO SELL A LOT THAT'S SUBDIVIDED.
BECAUSE THERE'S TWO SIDES OF IT.
THERE'S THOSE THAT WANT TO SELL THEIR ASSET AND THERE ARE THOSE THAT HAVE TO PRESERVE THEIR ASSET.
SO I THINK SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE HEIRS PROPERTY SALES THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER HILTON HAD THE PAST 10, 15 YEARS, UH, PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN A PARTIAL SALE IF FOR RE MA FAMILY MEMBERS LIVING ON SITES COULD ACTUALLY GET A PORTION.
SO THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW CAN'T DO THAT.
SO, AND I KNOW THAT'S WHY WE ADOPTED THE SUBDIVISION, THE PAPER SUBDIVISION, SO PEOPLE COULD BE ABLE TO KEEP OR TRADE LAND AS THEY SEE IT.
EVERY TIME WE DISCUSS THIS, LIKE THAT ONE HAS TO BE ON THE AIR.
SO ALL OF THAT COULD BE, YEAH.
IS THAT, IS THAT GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT THE CODER'S GONNA LOOK AT? YES.
SO I WILL ADD THAT TO THE LIST AND I WILL, WE WILL START WITH AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT AND I THINK THAT STAKEHOLDER MEETING THAT WE SHOULD SCHEDULE, AGAIN, WE'LL BRING THAT, WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE LIST AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO ADD MORE TO IT.
AND I CAN EVEN EITHER IDENTIFY WHETHER IT'S LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, LIKE HOW WE IMPLEMENT THE APPLICATION, OR IF IT'S A CODE SPECIFIC CHANGE AND THAT, AND THAT, JUST LIKE, THAT IS LIKE A COMMUNITY ADVOCATING PROVISION, RIGHT? THE CODE WRITER COMING IN WILL NOT KNOW HOW THAT IMPACTS US AS NATIVE ISLANDERS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS OUR FAMILIES ARE IN.
AND THEY WON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF ALL THE AIR CELLS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED OR THINGS THAT ARE NOT HAPPENING NOW BECAUSE OF THAT THREE YEAR PROVISION.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO PUSH IN THIS, PUSH IT TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN PUSH TO COUNCIL IF YOU WANT TO SEE THAT DONE.
UH, SO HOW OFTEN IS THAT REVISIT FOR THE THREE YEARS? HOW OFTEN IS THAT REVISIT? LIKE THIS IS THE FIRST, THAT'S IN THE FIRST ITERATION OF IT.
THIS IS, I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS FIVE AND THAT WAS LIKE A COMPROMISE AT THE TIME OF THIS ADOPTION.
SO HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, WHEN WE LOOKED AT EVEN CREATING FAMILY COMPOUNDS AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION, RIGHT, UM, YOU ALL MAY OR MAY NOT REMEMBER IF YOU ON TEST WAS THERE.
THE, THE TOWN WAS SAYING THAT, UH, HAVING A FIVE YEAR, UH, HOLD REQUIREMENT FOR THE FAMILIES TO HOLD BEFORE THEY COULD SELL.
AND OUR NEGOTIATION CAME DOWN TO THE THREE YEARS.
MANY OF US AT THAT TIME STILL FELT, UH, YES, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CULTURAL PRESERVATION, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
SO THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT THE CODE WRITER NEEDS TO LOOK AT.
AND EVEN FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, JUST THE, THE FEAR BACK THEN WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY IS SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTY JUST SO THEY CAN SELL IT TO MAKE MORE MONEY.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THAT'S THE CASE.
BUT I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE CAN REGULATE THAT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT MR. WHITE IS SAYING AS WELL.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN MEET WITH THE CODE RIDER WHEN HE COMES IN? OH YEAH.
I'M HOPING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH HIM.
AND HE WON'T DO THIS IN A CLOSED ROOM BY HIMSELF,
YEAH, WE HAVE, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO PUT ON, WE HAVE TO, I THINK WE HAVE TO PUSH ON, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS AS REPRESENTATIVE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN WE HAVE TO TALK TO TOWN COUNCIL ABOUT IT 'CAUSE THEY'RE ULTIMATELY GONNA VOTE ON THAT KEY.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WHERE THAT ONE MIGHT BE ONE THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF, UH, EDUCATION AND NEGOTIATION TO GET IT
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ACTUALLY PASSED.I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THESE.
AND I'M HOPING THAT WE ARE IN A BETTER PLACE.
AND I'M GLAD YOU REMINDED US THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.
A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSION AND SOME GOOD QUESTIONS COMING OUT OF THAT.
SO I APPRECIATE THE INPUT FROM OUR PUBLIC AS WELL.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS OUR LAND PRESERVATION UPDATE, WHICH A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE RELATED TO SOME OF THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD ALREADY.
I BELIEVE MS. LUANA RAISED IS HERE TO GIVE US TO UPDATE OUR PRESERVATION.
UH, JUST WANTED TO GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE ON WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON WITH LAND PRESERVATION.
UM, CURRENTLY WE ARE WORKING WITH THREE DIFFERENT FAMILIES ON RESOLVING THEIR HEIRS, PROPERTY ISSUES THAT, UH, FAMILIES THAT HAVE COME.
UM, FAMILIES THAT HAVE COME TO THE TOWN FOR ASSISTANCE.
UM, AND, UH, PREVIOUSLY I MENTIONED THAT THE TAX SALE WAS OCTOBER 5TH.
UM, IT WAS THIS YEAR I DID ATTEND.
AND I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A QUICK RUNDOWN ON, UM, HOW THE SALE WENT.
UM, IN TOTAL, THERE WERE 256 PROPERTIES WITHIN THE COUNTY.
UM, OF THOSE PROPERTIES, 29 OF THEM WERE HEIRS PROPERTIES, UM, PROPERTIES.
AND, UM, OF THOSE, OF THE 29, 25 OF THEM WERE ON HILTON HEAD.
AND, UM, OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WERE ON HILTON HEAD, ONLY SIX OF THEM WERE HEIRS PROPERTY, UM, PROPERTIES.
AND AS I MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE, THIS IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE.
UM, THE ISSUE THAT I ALSO MENTIONED REGARDING THE FOIA ISSUE WITH THE COUNTY, UH, REALLY WAS A SIGNIFICANT HINDRANCE AND HEADACHE, UH, JUST TO BE, BE, UM, FRANK ABOUT IT.
AND SO THE LIST THAT I WAS RECEIVING, LET'S SAY IN JULY, WERE NOT THE SAME KIND OF LIST THAT I RECEIVED IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON FIXING SO THAT THERE IS SOME CONSISTENCY MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE, UM, FOR A LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT BECAME A JUMBLED MESS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE LIST THAT WERE COMING FROM THE FOIA DEPARTMENT, UM, BUT, BUT STILL WORKING ON THAT.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, OF THE SIX PROPERTIES THAT WERE ON HILTON HEAD, ONE OF THEM DID GO TO THE SALE, UM, THAT WAS NOT, UM, REDEEMED.
UM, WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON REDEEMING THE PROPERTY, SO THAT ONE WILL BE PROTECTED.
UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FAMILY ON.
UH, THE MINIMUM BID FOR THAT PROPERTY WAS, UH, $2,300.
UH, SO IN ADDITION TO THAT $2,300 WE NOW HAVE THE INTEREST, AND OF COURSE IT GOES UP 12% BY, UM, THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THE FOUNDATION WAS ABLE TO SAVE 18 PROPERTIES.
UM, OTHER, UH, IN TOTAL THERE WAS ABOUT, UM, MORE THAN 25 ACRES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROTECT IN THE COUNTY.
UH, WE SPENT $38,000 IN TOTAL IN THE COUNTY.
UM, AND OF THAT, UH, 9,700 OF IT WAS SPECIFICALLY SPENT ON HILTON HEAD.
AND, UM, AND BASICALLY THAT'S IT.
I MEAN, I, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO ALL OF THE, UM, THE COUNTY NUMBERS AND INFORMATION.
UH, THE PRIOR TO THE SALE, I WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE BIDDERS, UH, WHICH IS, IS TRADITION.
UM, IT'S A GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT THAT THE, UH, REQUEST GOES OUT TO WHOEVER'S IN THE ROOM TO BUY A PURCHASE THAT PROPERTIES ARE NOT BID AGAINST IN THE PAST THAT REALLY HAS GONE IN ONE YEAR AND OUT THE OTHER AND PEOPLE BID ON IT IN GENERAL.
UM, THIS YEAR, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ME, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS WHAT I SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF I GUILTED PEOPLE INTO IT, BUT, UM, OF THE PROPERTIES THAT DID GO UP FOR SALE, UM, THERE WERE, UM, 18 OF THEM THAT FAMILIES WHO WERE THERE WHO ANNOUNCED THE FACT THAT THEY WERE HEIRS PROPERTY, UM, FAMILIES, THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO PAY COST AT WHATEVER THEIR TAX AMOUNT WAS.
SO, UM, THAT WAS A, A TREMENDOUS WIN BECAUSE
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LIKE I SAID IN THE PAST, THAT HAD NEVER REALLY HAPPENED IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.SO, UM, REALLY GRATEFUL THAT, THAT SOME LAND WAS BEING, WAS ABLE TO BE SOLD, UM, PROTECTED AND NOT SOLD AND LOST, UM, AS A RESULT OF THAT.
AND A LOT OF FAMILIES WERE ABLE TO HOLD ONTO WHAT THEY HAD.
UM, BUT THE, THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAY FOR THIS YEAR IS THE FACT THAT, THAT THE LISTS NEED TO BE CLEANED UP.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M ACTIVELY WORKING ON BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT SALE.
ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, QUESTIONS.
SO THOSE FAMILIES THAT PAID COST ON OCTOBER 5TH, THE TAX SALE, WHY DIDN'T THEY COME IN ON OCTOBER 4TH AND NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DRAMA? THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS.
UM, SOME OF WHICH, AND I BELIEVE I I EXPLAINED THIS BEFORE, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO HEIRS PROPERTY, BECAUSE THERE ARE MULTIPLE, UM, HEIRS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF OWNERSHIP, UM, THE TAX BILL, LET'S SAY YOU'RE LIVING ON THE LAND, THE TAX BILL CAN BE GOING TO JOHNNY.
AND IT GOES UP TO SALE, UP FOR SALE.
SO IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ACTIVELY MONITORING AND OR GO ON THE TAX WEBSITE OR SEE IT IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ALL OF THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT THE COUNTY DOES, YOU'RE GONNA MISS IT.
AND SOMETIMES THERE MIGHT BE SOME WARRING FACTION, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE FAMILY AND SOMEONE IS DELIBERATELY NOT SHARING.
AND, UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY STORIES I HEARD THIS YEAR, UH, FROM FAMILIES WHO ARE EXPERIENCING JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A COUSIN THEY DON'T WANNA SHARE AND OR THEY DELIBERATELY LET IT GO TO THE TAX SALE AND THE PERSON WHO CARESS AND WOULD'VE PAID IT HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON.
AND, AND EVEN WITH THE, THE PROPERTY THAT DID GO UP ON HILTON HEAD FOR THE SALE, UM, OUR BOARD DID, UM, SIGNIFICANT DUE DILIGENCE TO TRY AND, UM, INFORM THE FAMILY AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY WAS ON THE LIST AND CHECKING TO SEE IF THEY WERE GOING TO PAY IT.
UM, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, BEST EFFORTS, IF IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO IGNORE US, THEY'RE GONNA IGNORE US.
UM, IN THE END, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE GOING TO STEP IN AND REDEEM THE PROPERTY SO THAT IT DOESN'T GO.
BUT, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T MATTER HOW GOOD YOUR EFFORTS ARE, IF SOMEONE WANTS IT TO GO TO THE SALE, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT GO.
ANA, MAY I ASK TWO QUESTIONS? MM-HMM.
IS THE FAMILY RESPONSIBLE TO COME OVER 30,000 OR JUST PAYING THE AMOUNT OF THE DELINQUENT TAX PLUS THE INTEREST? THE, THE ORIGINAL BID, UM, FOR THAT PROPERTY IS $2,300.
SO THEY HAVE TO REPLACE, AND THE $2,300, UM, COVERS THE TAX AMOUNT THAT WENT TO THE SALE.
THEN FROM EVERY QUARTER THROUGH NEXT OCTOBER, THERE'S 3% ADDED.
SO IF THE PROPERTY UP 3% OF THAT $30,000, SO EVERY QUARTER IT GOES UP.
SO THE, THE GOAL IS TO TRY AND REDEEM THE PROPERTY AT THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF TAXES SO THAT IT DOESN'T GET TO THE 12% THAT, THAT WOULD BE AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, BUT, BUT YES, IT, IT, UM, IT, IT IS ALWAYS THAT BASE AMOUNT AND THEN WHATEVER IS THE ADDITIONAL INTEREST THAT GOES ON TOP OF IT.
AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS THE, THE, THE, THE FAMILIES THAT ARE IN THESE SITUATIONS THIS YEAR, ARE THERE ANY KIND OF ECONOMIC PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE ENGAGED WITH SO THAT THEY CAN PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN NEXT YEAR? IN THE CASE THAT, THAT IS THE ISSUE.
W PART OF OUR VETTING PROCESS IS ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS, WHY ARE YOU HERE? WHAT HAPPENED? WHY WERE YOU NOT ABLE TO PAY THE TAXES? UM, YOU KNOW, IS IT A FINANCIAL ISSUE? IS IT AN HEIRS PROPERTY ISSUE? UM, IS IT A LACK OF INFORMATION ISSUE? DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
SO WE ALWAYS ASK THOSE QUESTIONS UPFRONT.
IF IT IS A QUESTION OF LET'S SAY BUDGETING, THEN WE DO MAKE THE CONNECTION, UM, WITH SOME FINANCIAL, UM, ADVISORS SO THAT THEY CAN HELP SET UP A PROGRAM SO THAT PERSON IS NO LONGER STRUGGLING TO
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PAY OFF THE TAXES.MAYBE THEY NEED TO GET INTO THE PROGRAM THAT YOU CAN PAY IT, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME VERSUS HAVING TO WAIT IT TO THE END OF THE YEAR TO, YOU KNOW, PAY A LUMP SUM.
WHATEVER THE CASE IS, WE TRY AND HELP WITH THAT.
BUT MORE THAN LIKELY IT'S BECAUSE THERE IS AN ISSUE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AN HEIRS PROPERTY, THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH WHO'S PAYING THE TAXES AND WHY THE, UM, TAXES HAVE NOT BEEN PAID.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE PROBABLY A THOUSAND DIFFERENT SCENARIOS FOR EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY THAT THAT COMES UP.
SO YOU ALSO, UH, YOUR ORGANIZATION ALSO IN YOUR VETTING PROCESS, WE ASKED THE APPLICANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM, RIGHT.
IN NOT ONLY IN PARTICIPATE IN THOSE PROGRAMS, BUT ALSO COME TO THE WORKSHOPS.
I KNOW I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF WORKSHOPS THAT WE DO, UM, AND OR ASK ABOUT THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE WITH THE PROCESS DIRECTLY WITH SAY MARIA WALLS OR EBONY SANDERS OR THE CENTER FOR HEIRS PROPERTY, SO THAT THEY ARE GETTING THE PROPERTY INFORMATION THAT, THAT, UM, THAT THEY NEED SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO NOT HAVE THE SAME SITUATION NEXT YEAR.
SO, SO THE PROPERTY THAT WAS SOLD, IS IT THAT THEY HAVE A YEAR AND A DAY TO REDEEM THAT PROPERTY? YES.
YOU DON'T WANNA WAIT TILL THE YEAR, BUT YES, THEY HAVE A YEAR AND A DAY.
THEY DO HAVE A YEAR AND A DAY TO REDEEM IT.
UH, SECOND QUESTION IS, UM, SO THE LIST THAT YOU HAVE IN JULY AND AUGUST, YOU SAID THAT IT'S SO DIFFERENT.
WHAT IS DIFFERENT? WELL, WHAT, WHAT, UM, WAS DONE AS FAR BACK AS CHERICE'S DAYS? MM-HMM.
UM, SO THAT WE HAD AN IDEA OF WHO IT WAS.
AND OF COURSE, THE TASK FORCE AT ONE POINT KIND OF SCRUBBED ALL OF THE LISTS AND WENT THROUGH THE SURNAMES AND EVERYTHING.
SO THAT IS THE INFORMATION IN THE LISTS THAT I WAS GETTING DIRECTLY FROM A CONTACT WITHIN, OR MY CONTACT WITHIN THE, THE COUNTY OFFICE.
AND SHE WAS FUNNELING ME EVERYTHING BASED ON ALL OF THOSE CRITERIA.
WHEN THE FOIA CAME IN, THEY JUST STARTED SENDING LISTS.
SO I WAS LITERALLY TRYING TO WEEDED OUT ALL OF THOSE IDENTIFICATIONS AND CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WE HAD ESTABLISHED.
SO THEY KIND OF KITCHEN SYNCED IT IF, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, SO THE LIST MAY HAVE ORIGINALLY BEEN, LET'S SAY, A HUNDRED FOR A RANDOM NUMBER.
THE LIST THAT I WAS GETTING UNDER THE FOER REQUEST WAS PROBABLY CLOSE TO 300, YOU KNOW, AND I, AND SO LITERALLY GOING LINE BY LINE BACK THROUGH AND JUST TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BEAUTY OF IT IS, IS THAT MARIA WALLS IS VERY SENSITIVE AND OPEN TO WORKING WITH ME AND HELPING TO RESOLVE IT SO THAT IT IS A CLEANER, SMOOTHER PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
SO I, I JUST HAVE THIS FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, WITHOUT, WITHOUT SOME REAL VIABLE, UH, ECONOMIC ALTERNATIVE, HOW MANY TIMES WILL YOU BE ON A FAMILY OUT? WELL, WE, WE HAVE NEVER LOOKED TO BE A BANDAID OR A CRUTCH FOR ANYBODY.
SO YEAR TO YEAR TO YEAR, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THE SAME PEOPLE TO COME BACK.
WE WANNA FIGURE OUT WHY YOU'RE HERE THE FIRST TIME AND THEN HELP FIGURE OUT THAT OR RESOLVE THAT PROBLEM SO THAT MOVING FORWARD YOU, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK.
UM, I'LL GIVE YOU A, A CASE STUDY.
THERE WAS A FAMILY THAT CAME TO THE TOWN, UM, NOT LAST YEAR, BUT THE YEAR BEFORE HEIRS PROPERTY ISSUE ON HILTON HEAD.
THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROGRAM WITH, WITH THE HERITAGE LIBRARY TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THEIR HEIRS, BUT THEY DID WIND UP ON THE TAX SALE.
SO WE STEPPED IN TO NOT ONLY HELP THEM WITH REDEEMING THE PROPERTY, SO IT DIDN'T GO TO THE TAX SALE, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE FIXING THE PROBLEM.
SO RIGHT NOW, THAT FAMILY IS WITH THE CENTER FOR HEIRS PROPERTY, IRONING OUT THE TITLE SO THAT THE MOVING FORWARD, THE TWO COUSINS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WITH WITHIN A SITUATION HAVE THAT RESOLVED.
ONE WILL HANDLE THEIR PORTION, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE FAMILY COMPOUNDS CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, ONE WILL HAVE THEIRS, THE OTHER ONE WILL HAVE THEIRS.
AND THEN MOVING FORWARD THE RESPONSIBILITY HAS BEEN DIVIDED.
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AND IT'S NOT A, DID YOU PAY IT THIS YEAR OR NO, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA PAY IT, AND WHAT'S YOUR HALF IN ALL OF THOSE KIND OF SCENARIOS.WELL, THANK YOU, UH, ANA, I KNOW YOU DO GOOD WORK.
I APPRECIATE, UM, THE, THE ADDITION TO YOU TWO WITH WORKING WITH THE TOWN, AND I KNOW THE PROCESS HAS BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING, SO, UH, IT WAS NOT FUN.
AND, AND I AM WORKING ON A FEW THINGS, UM, THAT COMING INTO THE NEW YEAR, I WILL BRING BACK TO YOU, UM, BEFORE WE EVEN GET CLOSER TO THE, TO THE TAX SALE.
AND OF COURSE, UM, THERE IS ALREADY A CALENDAR OF, OF WORKSHOPS THAT I'M WORKING ON FOR 2024.
SO, UM, STARTING IN FEBRUARY, WE'RE GONNA HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH WORKSHOPS AND WILLS CLINICS.
UM, AND BY THE WAY, WE WILL BE HOSTING A WILLS CLINIC THIS MONTH.
UM, BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE FAMILIES THAT I'M WORKING ON, UM, PEOPLE NEED WILLS.
SO WE'RE DOING A SPECIFIC ONE FOR, FOR, FOR THEM AND, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER ELSE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WE CAN INVOLVE AND, AND HELP, UM, ALONG THE WAY.
AND I KNOW THAT, UH, WITH THE DATA THAT YOU HAVE, YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE SOME GOOD REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT'LL BE GOOD TO SEE THOSE USED AS A MEASURING STICK TO SEE HOW WE'RE DOING.
UH, I KNOW EVERY YEAR CAN BE DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S JUST WHEN WE STARTED, YOU KNOW, WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHERE WE ARE NOW MEASURING OUR, UH, STRENGTH OF OUR CULTURAL PRESERVATION, JUST HOW WE'RE DOING.
SO YES, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.
AND, AND TO THAT POINT, UM, THIS YEAR ALONE, JUST ON HILTON HEAD, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE WORKSHOPS, UM, AND HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE, UM, UM, RECEPTIVE OF THE WORK.
AND I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, IN ONE HOUR AND A HALF SESSION, SOMEONE WHO HAD BEEN WORKING ON SOMETHING FOR FIVE YEARS GOT MORE ANSWERS IN THAT HOUR AND A HALF THAN SHE DID IN FIVE YEARS.
SO, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT, THERE, THERE ARE SOME, SOME GREAT SUCCESS STORIES.
AND, UM, IF YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU A REPORT THE NEXT TIME ON THE CULMINATION OF ALL OF THE, UH, THE, THE SPECIFIC DATA ON HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME IN AND, AND, UH, THE RESULTS, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
I I WILL DO THAT FOR MY NEXT, UM, UM, REPORT.
WE ARE DOWN TO, UM, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THE COIN PROJECT.
UM, I BELIEVE MR. PUSH IS HERE.
FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR, UH, INVITING ME,
UM, LONGTIME RESIDENT OF HILTON HEAD.
UM, I'VE BEEN ON THE ISLAND FOR 26 YEARS.
UM, JUST GOTTA SAY, MAKE A COMMENT, UH, THAT'S SITTING IN THE BACK.
THIS IS VERY, UM, EDUCATIONAL.
UM, IT'S NOT ABOUT IT BEING LONG OVERDUE, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IT'S TIME TO DO THAT, IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE.
AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I'M GLAD YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON, WHICH ALSO HELPS ME IN WHAT I DO AS WELL.
SO THE COIN PROJECT IS SHORT FOR CHANGING OUR IMAGE NOW.
SO I STARTED OUT, I'VE BEEN A LONG TIME, UM, FOOTBALL COACH, BASEBALL COACH AT HILTON AT HIGH SCHOOL.
AND, UH, OVER THOSE YEARS JUST MENTORING, UM, YOUNG PEOPLE, UH, JUST INDIVIDUALLY ON MY OWN, JUST, JUST SAW A NEED.
AND, UH, OVER THREE YEARS AGO, UM, WE BECAME A 5 0 1 C THREE, UH, NONPROFIT.
I'M INTERRUPTED JUST, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, I, I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
YOU GO GIVE US YOUR NAME AND THAT.
WELL, I ALWAYS, I ALWAYS GOT, I ALWAYS GOTTA DO THAT.
I'M NOT SURE I, YOU KNOW, TO ASSUME I WAS GONNA LET YOU GO THROUGH THE WHOLE BIO
BUT WHAT I HAVE WITH ME TODAY IS I, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST GO WITH JUST A COUPLE THINGS, BUT I HAVE A BROCHURE IF ANYONE WANTS TO PICK IT UP AND, UH, KIND OF LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US AND, AND WHAT WE DO.
BUT, UM, AND, AND YOUR NAME? LJ BUSH.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SHORT FOR LEON BUSH JR.
UM, UH, VERY, VERY PLEASED AND, AND, AND BLESSED TO BE NAMED AFTER MY FATHER.
MS. MARK BUSH IS A LEGENDARY IN THE AREA.
AND YOUR SISTER LATRICE AND ALL OF THEM, SO, YEAH.
I ALWAYS, I'M, I'M IN THE SHADOW OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE, SO I JUST KIND, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, UH, FILLING SHOES.
WELL, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
WELL, UM, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IS JUST TEACHING OUR YOUNG MEN, UM, UH, LIFE SKILLS.
UM, WE MEET AT HILTON AT HIGH SCHOOL, UH, ONCE A WEEK FOR ABOUT AN HOUR.
WE'LL, WE'LL BRING IN SPEAKERS.
UM, MOST OF THE SPEAKERS ARE ME JUST
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GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW ABOUT, UM, JUST DURING THE DAY TO DAY, YOU KNOW, BEING, GET, BEING ENGAGING WITH OUR YOUNG STUDENTS, UM, BASICALLY LETTING THEM BE FULLY AWARE AND FULLY A PART OF, OF THE MEETINGS.UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO ASK OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, UM, WHAT IT IS THAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH, AND THEN KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT.
UM, I CAN GO A LONG TIME ABOUT, UH, TALKING ABOUT WHAT I THINK THEY NEED, AND I COULD BE WASTING MY TIME BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT THEY NEED.
UM, WHAT WE, WE VERY, I'M VERY PRO PROUD TO, UM, SAY THAT JUST THROUGH SPEAKING ABOUT THE, THE HEIRS PROPERTY AND JUST, UH, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WE HAVE, UH, THREE KIDS RIGHT NOW THAT WE JUST FOUND, UH, JOBS FOR LOCALLY THAT ARE LOCAL, UH, GULLAH NAMES, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TOO.
A PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS, IS, UH, PRESERVING AND SAVING PROPERTY.
BUT I THINK FIRST WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA WORK.
UH, THAT'S THE BIG THING IN OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
SO I'VE BEEN MOVING FORWARD TO THAT WITH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, TALKING ABOUT WORK, TALKING ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES.
I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE 100% OF OUR GRADUATING, UM, KIDS, SENIORS THAT ARE AT HILTON AT HIGH SCHOOL AND OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, THAT WE KNOW WHERE THEIR LANDING SPOTS ARE GOING TO BE WHEN THEY GRADUATE.
UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA REALLY, UH, CHANGE THE MINDS OF KIDS THAT WANT TO GO IN THE MILITARY.
WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE THE MINDS OF KIDS THAT WANT TO GO, UH, TO COLLEGE.
BUT WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THOSE KIDS WHO, UM, DON'T, DON'T REALLY HAVE A PLAN.
RIGHT? AND WHEN WE FIND THAT OUT, WE WANT TO LINK THEM WITH, UH, BUSINESSES OR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, OR JUST FIND OUT WHAT THEY WANT.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO.
AND I THINK KIDS ARE MORE, UH, APTT TO BE SUCCESSFUL IF THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
SO WITH THAT, UM, JUST BEING HERE AT THE TOWN IS, IS A GREAT THING BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE TOWN.
SO I HAVE ALFRED YOUNG WHO CAME THROUGH OUR PROGRAM A FEW YEARS AGO.
HE, UM, WENT OFF TO COASTAL CAROLINA, FOUND OUT THAT COLLEGE WASN'T REALLY WHAT HE WANTED, SO HE CAME BACK TO THE ISLAND.
BUT, YOU KNOW, TALKING WITH, UM, MARK ORLANDO AND, UM, I THINK HER NAME IS LISA STAFFER, UH, AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE THE TOWN HAVE HERE, ALFRED'S BEEN WORKING, UM, AT THE TOWN FOR A MONTH.
WHY THAT'S A BIG DEAL FOR ME IS ALFRED'S FATHER AND HIS GRANDFATHER, THEY HAVE PROPERTY ON MUDDY CREEK AND SPANISH ROSE ROAD.
SO TO HEAR MS. LAWANA AND, AND ALL YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT HES PROPERTY, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT EDUCATION PIECE TOO WITH YOUR, YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR HERITAGE AND TEACHING THAT AND WHAT PROPERTY AND THINGS MEAN TO YOU, UM, THE FAMILY, SO THAT YOUNG PEOPLE CAN GO FORWARD AND CARRY ON THAT HERITAGE.
SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S, UM, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S A WIN IN HIS, HIS AREA.
AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT.
WE TALK ABOUT THAT WITH, UH, SEAN CHISHOLM.
UH, HIS, UH, FAMILY IS ON CHISHOLM PLACE.
HE'S GONNA BE STARTING AT THE, UH, HILTON HEAD, PSD ON THE NORTH END.
HE'S GONNA BE STARTING AT, HE'S GONNA ACCEPT THAT JOB.
SO HE'S THE, UH, AFTER HIS GRANDFATHER PASSED AWAY, HE IS THE ONLY, UH, CHISHOLM DESCENDANT OF HIS GRANDFATHER.
SO HE'S WITH HIS MOTHER AND HIS AUNT AND HIS GRANDMOTHER.
SO NOW HE'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
I, I DO THAT AND SAY THAT BECAUSE MY FATHER ALWAYS WANTED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE HE PASSED AWAY.
AND, AND ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD IS LIKE, MAN, I STARTED WORKING.
I WAS LIKE, OH, LORD, I GOTTA HEAR ALL THIS.
RIGHT? SO, BUT I, I TAKE THAT AND SAY, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH WHY OUR KIDS CAN'T HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY NOW AT 15 AND 16 YEARS OLD? WHERE HAVE WE MISSED THIS OVER THE YEARS OF CODDLING AND NOT, UH, PUTTING RESPONSIBILITIES OF FAMILY ON OUR KIDS AND TEACHING THEM WHAT THINGS MEAN TO US AND HOW DO WE GET THAT? SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, UM, WHERE I'M AT WITH OUR PROGRAM.
UM, AS FAR AS THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, UM, TEACHING LIFE SKILLS AND RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, A COUPLE THINGS WE DO, WE GO OVER INTERVIEWING SKILLS.
UM, I, I REMEMBER BEING AT THE PSD AND HAVING A YOUNG MAN COME IN AND, UM, WANTING TO INTERVIEW WITH ME.
AND WHEN HE WALKED THROUGH THE DOOR AND HE SAID, I'M HERE FOR AN INTERVIEW.
AND I SAID, YOU'RE NOT HERE FOR INTERVIEW TODAY.
HE WAS LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THIS IS MY SCHEDULED TIME? I SAID, YOU, YOU'RE NOT READY FOR AN INTERVIEW TODAY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CONVERSATION.
AND THE CONVERSATION IS, WHAT YOU WEAR WHEN YOU'RE GONNA REPRESENT A COMPANY IS NOT WHAT YOU HAVE ON RIGHT NOW.
SO WE GOING TO, WE GONNA WORK THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT, WE JUST HAD A CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE THAT HE KNEW THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO COME BACK WITH PAIR OF SLACKS ON, UH, SHIRT TUCKED IN.
MY DAD ALWAYS, ALWAYS SAID, I NEED TO WEAR A TIE IN THE JACKET THAT'S OLD SCHOOL A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU CAN AT LEAST WEAR SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE PRESENTABLE.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO NOT ALLOW KIDS TO JUST DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
I BELIEVE IN, IF I GOTTA STEP ON TOES TO GET IT ACROSS, THAT'S WHAT'LL HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW.
SO IT'S UP TO US AS ADULTS TO TO TEACH THAT.
SO THE COIN PROJECT, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
I, I, I'M JUST A LITTLE OLD SCHOOL.
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UM, AND, AND, UH, LIKE MISS, UH, MR. STEVENS SAID, I, I, I GREW UP WITH A FAMILY THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS DEFINITELY INSTRUMENTAL AND INTO OUR, MY THREE SISTERS AND MYSELF.MY FATHER ALWAYS SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOUR LAST NAME WITH EVERYTHING YOU GOT.
YOU CAN HAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU WANT, BUT WHEN YOU LOSE YOUR GOOD NAME, YOU JUST LOSE A WHOLE LOT.
SO WE TEACH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ABOUT THAT.
UH, YOU'LL FIND OUT THROUGH OUR WEBSITE AND OUR BROCHURE, ALL THE PARTNERSHIPS WE'VE HAD.
UH, I'M ABOUT BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS, UM, BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK RELATIONSHIP BUILDING IS, UM, ONE OF OUR KEY COMPONENTS OF WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE HILTON HEAD FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE 'EM WITH, UM, HILTON HEAD HOSPITAL, UH, THE ECONOMIC, UM, DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, SEEING MR. TOM HINES HERE.
HE KNOW, HE AND I HAVE BEEN IN A MEETING WITH, UM, THE CHAMBER AND THE USCB, UH, AND THE TECHNICAL COLLEGE OF LOW COUNTRY WITH THE NEW PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE, UH, TALKING ABOUT INTERNSHIPS FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.
I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD FOCUS, UH, AS FAR AS HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE, THE, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH YOUR COMMUNITY, UH, UM, WITH THIS, WITH THIS BOARD.
WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS WHO ARE NOT GONNA GO TO COLLEGE.
AND SO A LOT OF OUR KIDS, A LOT OF OUR KIDS IN THE NORTH END, A LOT OF KIDS WHO HAVE THE HISTORICAL NAMES HERE ON HILTON HEAD, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THOSE KIDS HERE ON HILTON HEAD? THAT'S THE QUESTION, HOW DO WE GET RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM RIGHT NOW? AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THEY GET OUT TO WORK AT A WORK, AT A SUSTAINABLE JOB WHERE THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON SO WE CAN PRESERVE, UH, UH, THOSE LANDS AND THOSE HERITAGES, UH, AND THEN FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THEM SO THEY CAN STAY AND BE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND ONE DAY BE A PART OF THIS BOARD TO KEEP WHAT YOU ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW GOING FORWARD.
SO I THINK THAT'S, UM, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UH, TO US.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I, YOU KNOW, I, WELL, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL GREAT INFORMATION, AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR YOU SAY QUITE A FEW THINGS.
AND AGAIN, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE BUSH NAME.
AND THE BUSH FAMILY AND YOUR MOTHER, OF COURSE, UH, COMING UP THROUGH EDUCATION AND WORKING ON THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.
AND I THINK WHERE SHE IS NOW IS STILL MENTORING, UH, WITH HER CHILDREN AND THE MANY STUDENTS THAT SHE'S INFLUENCED OVER THE YEARS.
AND OF COURSE, UH, WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE LATRICE, AND I NEED TO TALK TO YOU, TELL YOUR SISTER I NEED TO TALK TO HER.
I GOT, WELL, WELL, I'M THE BEST SINGER IN THE FAMILY.
THEY JUST DON'T GIVE ME THE MIC.
DID YOU USE THE BEST SINGER
BUT THERE'S A COUPLE GOOD THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT YOU'RE SAYING, I'M EXCITED ABOUT YOUR PROGRAM, AND I, UH, I, I, I KNOW YOUR WORK FROM A DISTANCE.
UM, BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AS FAR AS PRESERVING THE LAND AND ALL OF THAT, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT IT'S NO GOOD IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE HERE.
AND, UH, WITH THE GENERATIONS THAT ARE KEEP COMING UP, WHAT YOU SAY, LIKE WHAT DO THEY DO HERE? HOW DO WE FIND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO STAY HERE? UH, BUT PROBABLY THE BEST THING THAT I THINK THAT YOU SAID, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY GROW UP AND WE NURTURED THEM, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO COME AND TAKE OUR PLACE ON SOME OF THESE COMMITTEES.
SO YOU, YOU, YOU'VE HEARD AND FIND ME A REPLACEMENT
DO YOU, DO YOU DO ANY LIKE FINANCIAL EDUCATION, WHICH IS WITH THE CHILDREN? YES, SIR.
YOU KNOW, YOU CHILDREN CAN, THEY KNOW HOW TO BALANCE A CHECKBOOK AND THEY KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
AND THEN FOR, FOR INVESTMENT PRACTICES? MM-HMM.
UH, SO LAST YEAR WE IMPLEMENTED A, UM, I HAVE A, UH, MENTOR WHO, UM, UH, HELPED ME OUT THROUGH, THROUGH THE YEARS.
UH, HE WAS A MEMBER OF OUR, HE'S A MEMBER OF OUR CHURCH.
HE, UM, HIS BACKGROUND IS IN FINANCES.
SO WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR WAS BASICALLY, UM, ONE MEETING WE JUST TALKED WITH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ABOUT FINANCIAL LITERACY, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.
AND, UM, I KIND OF WALKED IN AND, AND JUST ASKED EVERY KID, I SAID, DO YOU WANT TO BE A MILLIONAIRE ONE DAY? AND THEY ALL RAISED THEIR HAND AND, AND JUST ASKING 'EM HOW THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT WE STARTED TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT COMPOUNDING INTEREST, ABOUT GOING TO WORK AND SAVING THEM MONEY AND INVESTING.
AND SO WE HAD A, JUST THIS ONE MEETING WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE EARLY WE PUT UP THERE, WHEN YOU START, WHEN YOU'RE 18 YEARS OLD, YOU KNOW, SAVING JUST $200 A MONTH, $2,400 A YEAR, THIS IS WHAT YOU'LL HAVE EVEN IF YOU STAY IN IT FOR LIKE EIGHT YEARS.
AND HOW IT JUST COMPOUNDS OVER THIS TIME.
SO WE, WE DO, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
SO NOW, THIS YEAR WE ARE ON THE SECOND, TOMORROW WILL BE OUR THIRD WEEK IN A ROW WHERE WE
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ARE, WE'RE JUST TAKING IT, WE'RE BREAKING IT ALL THE WAY DOWN.SO WE'RE JUST TAKING 'EM THROUGH THIS FINANCIAL LITERACY AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PROCESS.
UM, AND WE'VE HAD THE BANKS COME IN AS WELL, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT, UM, WRITING, WRITING CHECKS AND BALANCING A CHECKBOOK, BECAUSE THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE MISSING NOW.
WE'RE RELYING ON A LOT OF AUTOMATED THINGS TO DO ALL THAT FOR US.
THE THING THAT I THINK THAT I NOTICED, EVEN, EVEN WITH MY OWN CHILDREN, WE DID
BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T, I I DIDN'T GET IT IN GRADE SCHOOL OR HIGH SCHOOL.
WHATEVER I GOT, I LEARNED ON MY OWN.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT TAUGHT AS IT SHOULD BE A REGULAR CURRICULAR ITEM, I BELIEVE, FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL ON UP, SO THAT BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE GRADUATE, WE ARE MORE THAN JUST CONSUMERS.
WE'RE MORE THAN JUST, LET ME JUST GO FIND, YOU KNOW, A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, GET SOME MONEY AND HAVE A GO, HAVE A GOOD TIME.
WE'RE THINKING DIFFERENTLY, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
WELL, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEMS, UH, JUST, UH, IMPLEMENTED THE PROGRAM WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE, UH, YOU HAVE TO TAKE A COURSE IN FINANCIAL LITERACY AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT BEFORE YOU GRADUATE.
I THINK THAT'S ONE THAT'S LIKE THE BEST THING THAT COULD EVER HAPPEN, BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN FOR ME.
AND I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS A REASON FOR WHY THINGS ARE THE WAY THEY ARE.
BECAUSE WE, WE LEARNED BAD CREDIT.
WE LEARN GOOD CREDIT FROM HAVING BAD CREDIT
SO WE, YOU KNOW, AND WE JUST, UH, WE THINK THAT WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IS JUST MAKE MONEY AND JUST SPEND IT.
UM, SO BREAKING IT DOWN TO YOUNG PEOPLE, UH, THE WAY I, YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE DO IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I TELL 'EM, I LOVE LEBRON JAMES, AND I LOVE MICHAEL JORDAN TOO, BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE TO BUY THEIR TENNIS SHOES AT
I CAN'T WAIT TILL THEY GO ON SALE, UH, AT 30 OR 40.
SO, UM, YES, WE, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT, UH, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT BECAUSE, UM, I HAPPEN TO OWN, UH, I OWN A BUSINESS.
AND, AND, AND WE OPENED IT UP WITH A LOT OF THE KIDS THAT, IN OUR ORGANIZATION, UM, THROUGH, UH, BEING CASHIERS.
SO I WAS ABLE TO HAVE THEM WITH ME THIS SUMMER.
THEY WERE ABLE TO SEE ONE, THEY WERE WORKING, I HAD TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE COMING ON TIME.
TWO, THEY COULD SEE THE MONEY THAT THEY WERE MAKING AND THE TIPS THAT THEY WERE MAKING.
BUT THEN I COULD HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH 'EM, OKAY, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
SO WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT THIS MONEY THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING? ARE WE SAVING IT? AND, YOU KNOW, NOT KNOWING IF YOU'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, GETTING THROUGH TO KIDS OR WHATEVER, HAVING YOUNG PEOPLE COME UP AND WANTING TO SHOW YOU THEIR SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND THEIR BANK ACCOUNT.
I, YOU KNOW, OWNING THE THING AIN'T HELPING ME AT ALL.
I NEED TO GO WORK FOR SOME OF THESE TIPS BECAUSE YOUR, YOUR BANK ACCOUNT LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN MINE.
BUT IT'S JUST THAT MINDSET, RIGHT? IT'S, UH, IT'S A MENTAL THING, JUST BEING CONSCIOUS AND THEN TEACHING THEM, UM, UH, WHAT IT IS YOU NEED TO KNOW.
AND, UH, AND I'LL, AND I'LL STOP BY SAYING THIS.
I DON'T TELL ANY KIDS WHAT TO DO WITHOUT HANDHOLDING.
I WILL HANDHOLD THE KID ALL THE WAY THROUGH TILL THEY'RE 25, 30, 40 YEARS OLD.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T QUIT MENTORING, UH, ANY OF MY GUYS THAT COME THROUGH.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT SOME HANDHOLDING IS NECESSARY.
UH, SO WE JUST DON'T TEACH 'EM AND JUST LET 'EM, LET 'EM GO OUT.
I, I BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, BUILD FRIENDSHIPS WITH 'EM.
UM, SO WE KIND OF TRANSITIONED FROM ME JUST BEING SOMEONE IN HIGH SCHOOL TALKING WITH 'EM.
BUT WHEN THEY GET INTO THE REAL WORLD, I'M STILL THERE TRYING TO DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
SO, UM, AND I NEED A LITTLE HANDHOLDING TOO SOMETIMES.
THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION.
AND I KNOW WE TEND TO SAY YOUNG MEN A LOT OF TIMES, BUT I'M ASSUMING THERE ARE YOUNG LADIES IN YOUR PROGRAM AS WELL.
UM, I, I, I DON'T HAVE AS MANY, BUT I'M VERY, UM, HAPPY TO SAY THAT I HAVE A FEW THAT HAVE BEEN PRETTY GOOD.
I'VE HAD A COUPLE IN MY DRUM LINE AND, UH, SHE WAS, UH, SHE'S A YOUNG LADY THAT, UM, I SAW LEADERSHIP SKILLS IN ON, IN THE DRUM LINE.
WELL, SHE, SHE DIDN'T START, SHE CAME IN, SHE WAS LISTENING A COUPLE TIMES AND I SAID, MAN, YOU CAN DO THIS.
YOU KNOW, SO SHE'S LIKE, I DON'T WANNA DO IT.
SHE ENDED UP LEADING THE GROUP, UM, DECIDED THAT SHE WANTED TO GO TO SOUTH CAROLINA STATE UNIVERSITY.
UM, SOME FINANCIAL THINGS CAME ABOUT AND SHE WASN'T ABLE TO, UH, GO, BUT REALIZED THAT HER MOM, YOU KNOW, BEING SINGLE, HAVING TWO DAUGHTERS, KNOWING THAT THAT WOULD PUT A FINANCIAL STRAIN ON THE FAMILY, SHE DECIDED THAT, UM, AND KIND, I KIND OF TWISTED HER ARM A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I WANTED HER TO NOT BE HERE.
SO, UM, SHE ENLISTED, UM, INTO THE NAVY.
SO RIGHT NOW SHE'S AT BASIC TRAINING IN CHICAGO.
SHE'S PROBABLY ABOUT TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM, UM, UH, GRADUATING.
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SO, UM, AWESOME ABOUT THAT IS SEEING LEADERSHIP SKILLS IN SOMEONE AND HELPING THEM FIND THAT SHE'S, SINCE SHE'S BEEN THERE, SHE'S BEEN, UH, TEAM LEADER.UH, SHE'S A SECOND PETTY OFFICER RIGHT NOW.
UM, NEVER THOUGHT SHE WOULD, UH, BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO WHEN SHE GRADUATES, SHE'LL BE WEARING HER, UH, LEADERSHIP, UH, SILVERS OR WHATEVER THEY CALL IT IN THE NAVY.
AND HER MOM, YOU KNOW, UH, CALLED.
AND SHE'S JUST ECSTATIC ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT KNOW KIDS ARE GOING, I DON'T WANNA DO THIS, AND YOU'RE NOT SURE AND ALL THAT, BUT WHEN YOU PUT 'EM IN THE RIGHT SITUATION, THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD DO IS MIND BLOWING.
AND, UH, MENTALLY THAT HELPS HER AND WE'LL HELP HER THROUGH.
SO YES, WE DO HAVE YOUNG LADIES, UH, AND, AND WE'RE GONNA START A AND GIRLS PROGRAM.
UM, I'M, I'M GONNA HIRE SOMEBODY FOR THAT THOUGH.
I, UH, LOOK,
I'LL BE AROUND, BUT, UH, YOU'RE A SMART MAN.
LOOK, I, I GREW UP WITH THREE SISTERS AND I, UH, I HAVE THREE DAUGHTERS AND, UH, THEY'VE, THEY'VE WARNED ME OUT OVER THE YEARS, MAN.
I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT
AND, UH, LET US KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP TO SUPPORT THAT.
AND I WANT TO TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT, UH, SOME OTHER FOLKS THAT MAY BE TO HELP YOU WITH MENTORING SOME OF YOUR PEOPLE.
OR PROVIDING SOME OPPORTUNITIES, I SHOULD SAY.
OH YEAH, NO PLACEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THIS BRINGS US DOWN TO THE, TO THE END OF OUR, UH, TIME TOGETHER HERE.
BUT I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ANSWER THIS OR NOT, BUT, UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT OUR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM AND DO WE KNOW WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT NOW AND UM, HOW THAT'S BEING PROGRESSED OR, UM, UNDERSTAND THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER SOURCES OF EDUCATING OUR TOWN STAFF OR ARE WE IN PLACE FOR THAT? OR HOW LONG IS THAT GONNA TAKE? UM, NICK S SAYS FOR THE RECORD, UM, I KNOW THAT IS MORE OF A QUESTION FROM MISSY, WHICH SHE DID HAVE TO LEAVE, UM, LAST TIME THAT I SPOKE WITH, WITH HER.
UM, THERE'S STILL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND THE, UM, WHAT IS ALL GONNA BE INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM.
THERE IS THE PROGRAM AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.
IT'S JUST STILL TALK ABOUT WHAT IS ALL GONNA BE INVOLVED WITHIN.
SO I'M NOT AT LIBERTY REALLY TO SAY YET WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND WHAT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED, BUT BASICALLY IT STILL HASN'T BEEN IMPLEMENTED.
BUT, UM, I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION FROM MISSY AS WELL.
JUST LET HER KNOW THAT WE DID HAVE THAT QUESTION ABOUT THAT PROGRAM.
UH, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE SUCH A GOOD CROWD IN THE HOUSE.
UH, THANK YOU CHAD FOR BEING HERE AS ALWAYS.
AND OF COURSE, UH, MISS LOUISE FROM GULER MUSEUM.
YOU'RE STILL REVELING IN YOUR BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO,
SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN THE GULER MUSEUM AND ALL THAT YOU DO AS WELL.
AND, UH, WITH LOW COUNTRY GU LA THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.
AND OF COURSE, UH, MR. BUSH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AS WELL.
AND TO MY COLLEAGUES, IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER THAT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO BE ADJOURNED, WE FIND OURSELVES ADJOURNED.