Nov 06, 2023 Town of Hilton Head Gullah Geechee Land & Cultural Preservation Task Force

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[1. Call to Order]

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FUNNY OUT ON AN ISLAND EACH LAND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK TASKFORCE MEETING NOVEMBER SIX,

[2. FOIA Compliance - Public notification of this meeting has been published, posted, and distributed in compliance with the South Carolina Freedom of Information Act and the requirements of the Town of Hilton Head Island.]

[3. Roll Call]

WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL I HOPE CERTAINLY. AND EVERYONE PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR MIKES ON AMBLE YOUR HANDS THERE, RIGHT? YEAH.

EVEN HERE AND I SEE MR. ABDUL-MALIK COMING IN AND MR. SIMMONS IS EXCUSE BY MR. SIMMONS'S EXCUSE AS HE SAID HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE IS THE

[4. Approval of Agenda]

I CAN HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA 30 SECONDS MADE THE MOTION.

THIS RIGHT HAS SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AND IN THIS OKAY WE HAVE SOME MINUTES SEPTEMBER THE

[5. Approval of Minutes]

[6. Appearance by Citizens]

WE APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE HERITAGE LIBRARY AND I HOPE YOU'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT IN THESE INSTANCES AS ALLOWS YOU CAN ENSURE ALL RIGHT THANKS I HAVE STAFF REPORT AND UPDATES.

[7. Staff Report]

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SO IN COMMUNITY PLANNING WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TURNOVER OF LATE.

OUR COMMUNITY PLANNING MANAGER RESIGNED AND ONE OF OUR OTHER PRINCIPAL PLANNER ENTERS RESIGNED. SO COMMUNITY PLANNING INCLUDES A VERY INTERESTING SHEA FARRAR AS THE IS THE TWO PLANNERS IN THAT DIVISION OF COURSE I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE DIVISION SO I'M SUPPORTIVE. WE HAVE RECENTLY MADE OFFERS AND CANDIDATES HAVE ACCEPTED FOR A PRINCIPAL PLANNER POSITION AND A NEW COMMUNITY PLANNING MANAGER ALREADY BUT THEY WON'T START UNTIL DECEMBER SO WE'RE A LITTLE SHORT STAFFED AT THE MOMENT BUT WE ARE ACTIVELY RECRUITING REGULARLY AND SO ANYONE WANTS TO DO ANY PLANNING WORK.

WE DO HAVE VACANCIES HERE AT THE TOWN TO DO ALL OF THIS GREAT WORK JUST TO ASSURE US THAT THE WORK IS STILL CONTINUING. OH ABSOLUTELY SO WE'RE HAVING THIS MEETING, THE WORK IS CONTINUING AND IT'S JUST PART OF WHAT YOU KNOW EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR PERSON IN THAT SPOT A WORK IS CONTINUING AND WE'VE ASSEMBLED A TEAM OF PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS WORK AND THE PEOPLE THAT ACCEPT THE POSITION ARE THEY FROM AROUND HERE OR THEY'RE FROM SOME OF ONE IS WITHIN THE GREATER HILTON HEAD SAVANNAH AREA AND THE OTHER ONE IS IN SOUTH CAROLINA BUT IS RELOCATING IT IN SOME PLACES IN THE PROCESS IF WE WERE HONEST WITH A GOOD MANY OF THEM RELATIVELY NEW WITH THE STAFF OR THE ONES THAT RECENTLY RESIGNED THEY BE I GUESS RELATIVELY NOW RELATIVELY NEW. IT'S NOT LIKE NONE OF THE ENTRY OF THE WORKING IN THE TOWN IS ONE WITH THEM. CORRECT AND THAT'S GOOD. OKAY.

ANYTHING ON THAT TOPIC FROM MISSING? OKAY.

THANK YOU ERNIE. NEIGHBORHOOD PERMITTING AND DESIGN STUDIO REPORT.

GOOD AFTERNOON. ALEXIS COOK PRINCIPAL PLANNER OF I'M NEW TO THIS MEETING SO HELLO NICE TO MEET MOST OF YOU FACE TO FACE. I WORKED WITH CHRISTIANA WHEN.

SHE WAS HERE ON SOME OF THE DESIGN STUDIO PROJECTS SO I'M TAKING OVER FOR RIGHT NOW IN HER ABSENCE UNTIL WE HIRE SOMEONE IN HER POSITION AND I WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON OUR DESIGN STUDIO APPLICATIONS AND ANY HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD PERMITTING FROM ESSENTIALLY WHEN WE STARTED SERVING RESIDENTS IN OCTOBER 2021 TO OCTOBER 2023 WE HAVE RECEIVED 66 TOTAL DESIGN STUDIO REQUESTS TO DATE WHICH IS TWO MORE REQUESTS FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING. THE TWO NEW CASES ARE ON MARSHLAND ROAD BEHIND BEAUTIFUL ISLAND SQUARE THAT'S IN THE EARLY STAGES TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO HAS RECENTLY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND THEN A JANESVILLE PROPERTY ALSO VERY MUCH IN THE EARLY STAGES WE JUST RECEIVED A SURVEY AND WE HAVE A LOT OF STORMWATER QUESTIONS TO GO OVER WITH THEM.

SO TWO NEW CASES THAT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO ASSISTING WITH AND THEN WE STILL DO HAVE 33 ACTIVE DESIGN STUDIO AND PLEASE I, I TALKED TO MISSY THIS WE WANT TO MAKE OURSELVES OPEN AND AVAILABLE SO IF YOU HAVE ANY ON ANY CASES ON I KNOW I OWE YOU AN ANSWER AN ACTIVE CASE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE LET US KNOW WE ARE TO ANSWER.

WE HAVE A BIG DATABASE OF WHERE WE ARE AT WITH EACH PROJECT SO WE HAVE 19 THAT ARE TECHNICALLY ON WHETHER WE'RE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT AND WAITING FOR INFORMATION OR FOUR OF THEM ACTUALLY ARE WAITING ON TOWN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WHICH IS VERY UNIQUE AND INTERESTING I THINK JUST COORDINATING EFFORT AND THEN WE HAVE 14 THAT ARE EITHER IN PROGRESS OR UNDER REVIEW. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. SAFETY AND REPAIR PROGRAM

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YOU PROBABLY CAN I CAN BRING THAT TO CHRIS IF YOU'D LIKE LIKE.

I ONE PERSON, ONE CHRIS REAL NAME IN FACT LET ME MENTION THE FACT SO MANY HOMES PROBABLY NEED ADDITIONAL. YES. AND AMANDA SAID IT WAS THOSE FAMILIES THAT WERE NEEDED TO MAKE TOTALLY NEW APPLICATION AND WE ARE REALLY COMMUNICATING TO THOSE FAMILIES THAT HAVE THAT NEED THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT PROCESS OUT OF THEM.

YES. SO EVERY APPLICANT THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO REAPPLY FOR YEAR AND THEY DO MAX $15,000 PER JOB SO PER APPLICATION PER YEAR THEY ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO REAPPLY IF THEY NEED ADDITIONAL AND IT'S A JULY TO JULY PROGRAM .

OKAY THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR NICOLE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT I KNOW OF SOME OF THE APPLICANTS WHO HAD WORK VAN AND THEY WERE VERY PLEASED.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU . OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU NICK. I WILL ALSO BE HERE FIRST CONNECTION ARE YOU HERE FOR THE NEXT ITEM? YES, SIR. OKAY.

SEWER CONNECTION PROGRAM. AND AGAIN, SINCE OUR LAST UPDATE FOR SEWER CONNECTION WE RECEIVED EIGHT NEW APPLICATIONS. WE GONE FIVE MORE LETTER OF APPROVALS FOR. THESE APPLICATIONS FOR A TOTAL OF 25 AND THEN SIX OF THESE HAVE NOT BEEN SCHEDULED FOR CONNECTION YET. BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH YOU ON THOSE AND THEN WE HAVE HAD A TOTAL COVID 19 OF THESE APPLICATIONS COMPLETED FOR A TOTAL OF 113,000 $466,000. AND AGAIN WHEN THIS PROGRAM SEEM AS THE HOME SAFETY SO JULY 2020 IS THESE NUMBERS ARE ALSO FROM THE BEGINNING QUESTIONS SUBMITTED FOR THE SEWER

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BOTH PROGRAMS ARE BEING PROMOTED AS WELL AS THEY CAN BE.

WE DO HAVE FLIERS OUT IN THE LOBBY AS WELL AS SANDY, PHYLLIS AND THE PROJECT ALSO HAS THE APPLICATIONS AND FLIERS FOR SEWER CONNECTION AS WELL ALSO HAS THEIR PROGRAM THERE HOME SAFETY AND REPAIR PROGRAM AS WELL AS PROJECT SAFE WHICH SEWER CONNECTION? OKAY. YEAH, YEAH RIGHT. THANK YOU, NICK.

[8. Discussion Items]

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING COMES OUT US OF A QUORUM YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT MEETING. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET APPROVED TODAY IF WE VERY YOU KNOW THE JULY 1ST MEETING IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON THE JULY ONE MEETING WAS CANCELED? WAS IT IN JULY? THE QUESTION QUESTION IS ABOUT THE ON MEETING CALENDAR. WE HAVE JULY 1ST, 2020 FOR ME CANCELED THAT IS I'M NOT 100% FROM I UNDERSTAND THAT CAME FROM COMMISSIONER IN OBJECTION TO HAVING THAT MEETING COUNCIL INTEREST IN THE SUMMER WHEN THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT GOING ON WHICH IS ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAYS BUT THEN THAT BEING THE CASE I'D LIKE TO MAYBE ENTERTAIN THIS THE CANDIDATE THANK YOU MISS RIGHT WHO HAD MADE THE MOTION A SECOND LINK HAS MADE THE SECOND ALTHOUGH WAS IN FAVOR ANIMUS. NEXT ITEM IS THE FAMILY COMPOUND FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

I THINK WE HAVE A MEETING WANTED TO TOUCH BASE REAL QUICK ON HOME SAFETY REPAIR AND SEWER CONNECTION PROJECT THERE WILL BE AN UPDATE ON A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES THAT'S GOING TO BE MADE AT THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING TOMORROW.

AND ONE OF THOSE IS THAT BOTH OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE REACHING THEIR FUNDING LIMITS RIGHT NOW.

AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE ONLY HAVE 446 $400 REMAINING IN THE SEWER CONNECTION PROGRAM.

AND THEN JUST 74,000 REMAINING IN THE HOME REPAIR. AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET A LOT OF PROJECTS CONTRACTED AND UNDERWAY, WHICH IS A SUCCESS STORY THAT WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT . BUT WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE MORE DEMAND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO FUND AT THIS MOMENT. SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS DISCUSSED OR BROUGHT UP IN AN UPDATE. AND ALSO I WANTED TO YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED SOME REALLY NICE THANK YOU'S FOR SOME OF THE HOME REPAIR WORK WE'VE DONE.

WE HAVE NOT DONE A COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH ON THE PARTICULAR PROGRAM AND ITS SUCCESSES. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS

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ALEXIS COOK FOR THE RECORD. GOING TO GET THIS UP AS A PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT. STAFF IS HERE TO TALK TO THE FORCE TODAY ABOUT THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION PROCESS. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE HISTORY.

I'LL START WITH THE AGENDA BUT REALLY WE WANT THIS TO BE AN OPEN DIALOG TODAY, NOT BE THE END OF THIS CONVERSATION. SO WITH THAT WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA ON THE PRESENTATION.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND WHICH HIGHLIGHTS THE HISTORY FROM THE PRESERVATION PROJECT ALL THE WAY PLANNING COMMISSION THROUGH THE TASK FORCE. I WON'T GO THROUGH EVERYTHING JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON SOME FEW POINTS BUT A LOT OF WORK AS YOU KNOW WENT INTO THIS COMPONENT AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF 34 INITIATIVES THAT CAME OUT OF THAT REPORT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE THE TASK FORCE AND GET YOUR GUYS'S FEEDBACK ON THIS PROCESS.

WE'LL GO OVER THE TWO APPLICATION TYPES. HOW MANY APPLICATIONS GOTTEN TO DATE? THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE PURPOSE AND INTENT BOTH APPLICATIONS AND A FEW CASE STUDIES OF THOSE APPLICATIONS. WE'LL GO OVER A GENERAL COMPARISON TO OUR OTHER APPLICATION TYPES. EXCUSE ME.

WE'LL GO OVER WHAT'S WORKING. AND THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY I WANT TO GO OVER AND SAME WITH MISSY THE AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT WE REALLY WANT TO DISCUSS WITH THE TASK FORCE AS WELL AS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHERE CAN WE IMPROVE THIS PROCESS IS WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY? WHAT CAN WE DO TO TO MAKE THIS SMOOTHER? WHAT CAN WE DO TO INCORPORATE MORE OF THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY? SO REALLY THIS IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. WE'RE JUMPING INTO ELMO PHASE FIVE AND THIS IS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO MARRY THIS CONVERSATION WITH MEANINGFUL CHANGE. AND THEN AT THE END THIS IS VERY HIGH LEVEL DRAFT BUT WE'RE CONSIDERING MAYBE A NEW APPLICATION. I WOULD ALSO LOVE YOUR GUYS'S THOUGHTS ON THIS AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT. SO AS PROMISED, A LOT GOING ON HERE IN THE BACKGROUND.

THIS FIRST SLIDE IS REALLY FROM SEPTEMBER 2018 THROUGH THE END OF 2019.

SO THIS IS A VERY BRIEF SUMMARY OF TWO YEARS OF WORK. THIS STARTED WITH THE GOGI LAND AND A CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE AND I'M SURE THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK EVEN BEFORE 2018 BUT THIS REPORT RESULTED IN THOSE 34 RECOMMENDATIONS AND FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION NEEDS WE'RE JUST TWO OF THOSE 34 PROJECT TYPES AND I ALSO THINK WOULD BE GOOD IN THE FUTURE WE CAN ALSO TOUCH BASE ON OF THE OTHER PARTS OF REPORT THE OTHER 32 ITEMS SO THIS WORK ULTIMATELY NEAR THE END OF 2019 BROUGHT THESE TOP PRIORITIES THIS WHOLE FRAMEWORK OF THIS REPORT TO TOWN COUNCIL AND THEN THROUGH NOVEMBER 2019 TO AROUND SEPTEMBER 2020 STAFF WORKED WITH THE TASK FORCE. THEY WORKED WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THEY WORKED ON THIS HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT WHICH I KNOW EVOLVED INTO SOMETHING AND THEN THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION ELMO AMENDMENTS WERE BEING CREATED DURING THAT TIME ALONG WITH I KNOW A LOT OF OTHER WORK SO I DON'T MEAN TO TO SUMMARIZE IT BUT IT WAS QUITE A FEW PIECES OF HISTORY HERE. SO FROM 2019 THROUGH 2020 WORKING ON THESE DRAFTS THEM TO PLANNING COMMISSION, BRINGING THEM TO THE TASK FORCE, BRINGING THEM TO COUNCIL ULTIMATELY AT MID 2021 THEY WERE OFFICIALLY ADOPTED AS TO AMENDMENTS FOR FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION. SO THREE YEARS OF A LOT OF WORK HERE. I KNOW THE TASK FORCE IS FAMILIAR THESE SKETCHES BUT I LIKE THEM. I THINK THAT THEY SET THE STAGE FOR REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THESE APPLICATION TYPES SO WE HAVE FAMILY COMPOUND WE HAVE A REGULAR SUBDIVISION AND THEN WE HAVE FAMILY SUBDIVISION YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IS FAMILY COMPOUND HAS YOU KNOW LESS SETBACKS BUFFERS MORE OPEN SPACE MORE SPACE THAT CAN BE SHARED FAMILY MEMBERS AND THEN

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SO FAMILY COMPOUND WE HAVE SINGLE PARCEL OF LAND THAT ALLOWS MULTIPLE HOMES TO BE BUILT WITH REDUCED BUFFERS SETBACK ACCESS AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE EXAMPLE HERE I'D LIKE TO DOVE THE PURPOSE AND INTENT. SO THE PURPOSE FOR THE FAMILY COMPOUND IS TO PROVIDE A SHARED SPACE FOR FAMILY MEMBERS WHILE MAINTAINING INDIVIDUALITY ALSO HAVING SHARED AMENITIES WE WANT IT TO PROMOTE A SENSE OF COMMUNAL LIVING AND CONVENIENCE.

THE THE INTENT OF THE APPLICATION TYPE IS TO DESIGN TO ASSIST THE FAMILY WITHOUT TRIGGERING THE FULL RANGE OF ALAMO AND YOU'LL SEE A TREND BOTH APPLICATION TYPES HAVE A VERY SIMILAR METHOD BUT THEY ARE YOU KNOW THEY DO RESULT IN DIFFERENT OUTCOMES YEAH THIS I THINK WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY YEAH SURE FRESH YEAH SO A FAMILY COMPOUND IT'S IT'S ONE ON PROPERTY OWNED BY MULTIPLE MULTIPLE FAMILY MEMBERS YES AND AND BECAUSE OF THAT AND GET A MORTGAGE OR A HOUSE ON PROPERTY TYPICALLY BECAUSE IT'S A BIG PROPERTY WITH POTENTIALLY MULTIPLE OWNERS AT WHAT MAKES A FAMILY COMPOUND AND A FAMILY COMPOUND AND A NEW AND DIFFERENT FROM A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED PROPERTY I THINK THAT'S WHEN THE HEIRS PROPERTY COMES IN ONLY IF IT'S LIKE A PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT.

SO THIS APPLICATION TYPE WHILE IT MAY APPLIED TO HEIRS PROPERTY, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A SITUATION LIKE THAT. SO SOMETIMES YES, WITH PROPERTY THERE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE CLEAR TITLE IT IS DIFFICULT TO GET A MORTGAGE AND SO THEN THERE ARE LESS OPTIONS DEVELOPMENT THAN OF THAT PARCEL BUT A FAMILY COMPOUND OR A FAMILY SUBDIVISION IS BASED ON THE DEFINITIONS OR THAT IT IS IN FAMILY OWNERSHIP SINCE 1956. SO THE CRITERIA THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THESE APPLICATION TYPES BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COMPOUND AND A SUBDIVISION OBVIOUSLY IS THAT IT'S MULTIPLE HOMES ON ONE PARCEL FOR A COMPOUND AND THEN A FAMILY SUBDIVISION STILL HAS THAT IT'S BEEN OWNED IN FAMILY OWNERSHIP SINCE 1956 BUT IT CAN BE SUBDIVIDED. THERE ARE AGAIN LESSER SETBACKS AND BUFFERS ACCESS REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH APPLICATION TYPES BOTH OF THEM REQUIRE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE INSTALLED TO THE POINT OF DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU'RE READY TO DEVELOP AND THERE'S SLIDES THAT GO THROUGH A COMPARISON BETWEEN FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND THEN THE OTHER APPLICATION TYPES THAT ARE SIMILAR IN OUR CODE THAT THIS TYPE THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD WOULD FALL UNDER IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE TWO APPLICATION TYPES.

SO EITHER HAVE A SMALL RESIDENTIAL PLAN TYPE THAT IS CALLED A DPR USED TO STAND FOR ABBREVIATED DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW AND AND THEN A MINOR SUBDIVISION PROCESS AND SO THESE APPLICATION TYPES WERE CREATED WERE MEANT TO SOLVE SOME OF THE OBSTACLES AND BARRIERS THAT WERE ■IDENTIFIED WITH THE LAND AND PRESERVATION PROJECT REPORT AND AGAIN AS

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THAT'S WHERE I THINK SOME OF THE WORK OF THE HERITAGE LIBRARY AND WORKING WITH FAMILIES TO STRUCTURE AND THEN THEY CAN TAKE FROM THERE HONESTLY WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING THEIR PRIVACY THEIR TITLES OR YOU KNOW STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY OR WHATEVER OF HOW THEY WANT TO USE THAT THING I THINK BEING AS PART OF THIS RESCUE OR AT LEAST ONE PART MAYBE THAT'S THE BIGGEST BUT IS THE SECOND BUILT SECOND BULLET ON THIS THE INTENT OF THE APPLICATIONS TO ELEMENT OUT TRIGGERING THE FULL ALONG REQUIREMENTS AND FEASIBILITY A ROADS AND AS BIG AS PART OF WHAT WE USE TO IDENTIFY A SUBDIVISION SO YOU GOT SOMETHING IN THE CODE NOW THAT ALLOWS US TO USE THE PROPERTY WITHOUT HAVING TO ACTUALLY PUT THE ROADS RIGHT. YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I THINK CONTINUE. THANK YOU. OKAY.

WITH THAT WILL JUMP INTO A FEW CASE STUDIES. SO AS DISCUSSED THERE ARE FIVE APPROVED FAMILY COMPOUND APPLICATIONS AND ONE IN PROGRESS.

IF WE HAD MORE THAN ONE THAT WAS IN PROGRESS I WOULD HAVE TWO CASE STUDIES HERE THAT WERE ONGOING BECAUSE I WANT TO SHARE REALLY WHERE WE ARE AND WHY WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEM TO APPROVAL YET EVEN THOUGH OUR CASE MANAGERS ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THE WITH THE FAMILIES ON THESE APPLICATIONS. SO FIRST CASE STUDY THE STATUS OF IT IS CFC OR A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE THAT PRETTY MUCH MEANS YOU HAVE DONE EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO DO AND YOUR PROJECT APPROVED AND EVERYTHING SHOULD BE BUILT AND EVERYTHING WAS INSPECTED LOOKS GOOD.

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SO FOR THE FIRST CASE STUDY TWO PHASES FOR THE UTILITY CONSTRUCTION WAS BASED ON THERE WERE FIVE EXISTING MOBILE HOMES ON THE PROPERTY WERE BEING TRANSFORMED INTO TEN NEW MOBILE HOMES. SO THE FIRST PHASE WAS TO BUILD OUT ACCESS FOR THE FIVE NEW HOMES TRANSFER THE UTILITIES FROM THE FIVE EXISTING TO ALL 510 NEW HOMES AND WE'LL GO OVER AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE VISUAL OF THAT APPLICATION THE PLAT ON THE NEXT PAGE THE SECOND CASE STUDY WAS THE OF SIX NEW MOBILE HOMES AS DISCUSSED IN ENGINEERING FIRM WAS ALSO PROCURED TO HELP WITH THE DESIGN AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY UNDER THE STATUS CODE CORRECTIONS REQUIRED WHICH JUST MEANS THAT STAFF HAS COMMENTS FOR THEM AND THEY ARE WAITING ON UTILITIES TO BE RELOCATED THE THROUGH AN EASEMENT AND THAT EASEMENT IS CURRENTLY IN LEGAL REVIEW. SO WITH THAT I WILL MOVE ON WHAT THESE LOOK LIKE.

SO THIS IS CASE STUDY ONE WHERE THEY WERE GOING FROM TEN HOMES OR EXCUSE FIVE HOMES TO TEN HOMES AS YOU CAN. THIS IS ONE PARCEL WE DO HAVE AN ACCESS THAT LOOPS AROUND THE PARCEL ON BOTH SIDES THAT FLANKS THE HOMES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MOST LIKELY THAT WAS FOR FIRE SAFETY BEING ABLE TO REACH EVERY HOME AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SERVED SO THIS IS WHAT A TYPICAL PLOT FOR A FAMILY COMPOUND WOULD LOOK LIKE AND PLEASE FEEL FREE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO STOP ME BUT I WILL GO ON TO CASE STUDY NUMBER TWO.

THIS IS AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL FROM NUMBER ONE TO NUMBER TWO I PULLED A POST DEVELOPMENT SURVEY SO THIS IS HOW THINGS ARE CURRENTLY AND THEN THIS IS AN ENGINEERED PLAN YOU CAN SEE THE UTILITIES ARE DRAWN OUT IN MORE DETAIL DRIVEWAYS WHERE THE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE PLACED.

YOU SEE SOME CONSTRUCTION PHASING HERE AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE REALITIES WHEN WE HAVE APPLICANTS COME IN AND THEY'RE READY TO CONSTRUCT THAT WE WANT TO HELP AS CASE MANAGERS THEM BEST SO THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY THE RIGHT PRODUCT, THE HOMES ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE, THEY'RE SAFE, PEOPLE ARE HAPPY SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO THINK THIS AS WE GO THROUGH THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION APPLICATION I, I SAW SOME INTERESTING I WASN'T THE CASE MANAGER ON ALL OF THESE ACTUALLY UNFORTUNATELY NONE OF THESE BUT I MET WITH THE CASE MANAGER ASKED HIM QUESTIONS I WANTED TO LEARN KIND OF WHAT THE THEMES WERE AND ON THE FAMILY COMPOUND CASES TYPICALLY THEY WOULD HIRE AN ENGINEER AND TYPICALLY THEY WERE READY TO BUILD AND I WAS NOTICING ON THE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS TYPICALLY IT WAS MORE WE WANT TO SUBDIVIDE FOR OUR FAMILIES AND WE'RE NOT READY TO BUILD JUST YET. OR MAYBE ONLY ONE PERSON IS READY TO BUILD AND THOSE APPLICATIONS HOW YOU IMPLEMENT THOSE WERE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SO JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND YEAH THESE IN THOSE SITUATIONS WE HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO MAY BE READY TO BUILD AND AND I'M NOT WILL YES THAT FAMILY IS NOT READY TO BUILD IN THEIR DREAM BE READY CONTINUE WITHOUT AN INFRASTRUCTURE BEING PUT IN PLACE TO MY UNDERSTANDING YES THE THESE APPLICATION TYPES ARE SET UP TO WHOEVER IS READY TO BUILD AND GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE LET'S SAY THIS IS A FAMILY COMPOUND SO LIKE YOU UNFORTUNATELY SEE MY CURSOR BUT LET'S SAY THAT THE TOP RIGHT HOME OF THE THREE IS READY TO BUILD THE ACCESS ROAD WOULD NEED TO BE FULLY BUILT OUT BUT LET'S SAY THE MIDDLE RIGHT READY TO BUILD IF THE ROAD WOULD JUST NEED TO BE BUILT OUT TO THAT HOME AND THE UTILITIES WOULD JUST NEED TO EXTEND TO THAT HOME AND THEN AS THE REST OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS ARE READY BUILD THEN IT WOULD EXTEND AS IT WOULD BE NOTHING THAT WOULD THAT AND HOMEOWNERS HAVE IS OPINION TRANSFERRED AND REGISTERED IN HIS NAME IN THE COUNTY OR IN THE PUT IN PLACE

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AND SO IS YOUR QUESTION THEN WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO RECORD A PLAT INSTEAD OF DOING THE DEVELOPMENT NOW SOME OF THAT IS IF YOU MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO GET THE PLAT WHICH DOES REQUIRE SOME LEVEL OF PLANNING WHICH I THINK WILL BE AN AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT. BUT LET'S JUST SAY ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS ARE MET AND THAT WE CAN APPROVE A SUBDIVISION PLAT AND NO ONE'S READY TO DO ANY CONSTRUCTION THAT COULD BE RECORDED AND THEN WHEN IT'S TIME TO DEVELOP ON WHERE THE FIRST HOME IS GOING TO BE BUILT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE ROAD WOULD BE BUILT TO THE POINT OF DEVELOPMENT SO IN THIS CASE WHEN IT'S THE HOME IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER THEN YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE ROAD IN YOUR DRIVEWAY UP TO THE POINT OF DEVELOPMENT EXTEND THE UTILITIES TO THAT PARTICULAR POINT AND EVERY OTHER SIDE RESIDENTS COULD BE DEVIANT INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT GETTING CORRECT. YES. OKAY.

AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE PLAN REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT FAMILY SUBDIVISION UP FRONT THEN YES WE COULD STAMP THE PLAT AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT CAN TAKE PLACE AT THE TIME THAT DEVELOPMENT IS BEING PROPOSED I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE THERE IS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT ON THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS THAT. WE WILL GET TO AGAIN SO A COMPOUND ONE LOT OWNED BY ENTIRE FAMILY A SUBDIVISION WAS ONE LOT OWNED BY AN ENTIRE FAMILY AND NOW IT'S BEEN SUBDIVIDED BY OWNERSHIP OR JUST TO BE ABLE TO SEPARATE THE DEVELOPMENT TYPICALLY AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT TYPICALLY WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS EITHER ONE OR MULTIPLE HEIRS OF A FAMILY WILL OWN PARCEL AND THEN THEY WILL WORK WITH THEIR FAMILY LET'S SAY SAY EIGHT PEOPLE HAVE OWNERSHIP RIGHTS TO THIS PARCEL RIGHT THEN THEY WILL WORK TOGETHER AND EACH PERSON DOES HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THE RIGHTS TO SUBDIVIDE PERFECT THEN THEN THOSE MEMBERS THAT HAVE SUBDIVIDED THEY OWN JUST THEIR PART IN THE OTHER PARTS GO THE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS.

YES. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS THEN YOU OWN IT THAT SUBDIVIDED LOT.

YES. EACH PERSON WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN OR FAMILY MEMBERS WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN LOT NUMBER AND THEY WOULD HAVE THE DEED THAT THAT PERSON CAN'T DO THAT IT'S HEIRS PROPERTY BECAUSE OR YOU COULD I GUESS BUT TRUST ME IT'S MORE OF A CHALLENGE AS YOU DON'T HAVE EVERYBODY IN THE SAME PLACE AGREEING TO WHO'S GOING TO GET WHAT.

YES OR FAMILY SUBDIVISION TYPICALLY WOULDN'T BE HEIRS PROPERTY WE DO SEE THEM FROM HEIRS PROPERTY AND I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND ANYONE TO PLEASE COME IN FOR DESIGN STUDIO BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON THE PROPERTY AND WE FOCUS ON THE FAMILY AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THOSE GOOD CONVERSATIONS OF WHAT ARE YOU WHAT IS THE FAMILY LOOKING FOR? YOU CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS WHERE SOMETIMES THE FAMILY MIGHT NOT AGREE ON LIKE ALL GOOD FAMILIES LIKE WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON WHAT WE WANT SO SOMETIMES THEY ARE FAMILY HEIRS PROPERTIES AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THEM COMING IN FOR A DESIGN STUDIO TO TALK THROUGH THIS AND WE GO THROUGH DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND DIFFERENT LAYOUTS.

WE TRY TO HELP BRING THEM TO THIS STEP THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO FAMILY SUBDIVISION NOW THAT WE'RE CHATTING ABOUT IT. SO I THINK MISSY HAS GONE THROUGH QUITE A LOT OF THE BACKGROUND AND INTENT SO I'M GOING TO JUMP FROM DEFINITION TO PURPOSE AND INTENT BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION IS TO AIM IS AIMS TO CREATE INDIVIDUAL

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SO THE FIRST SUBDIVISION IS A CASE STUDY WHERE WE WERE ALMOST THERE AND TALKING WITH CASE MANAGER WE NEED TO ADD A FIRE HYDRANT TO PLAN AND THIS IS WHERE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SUBDIVISION FROM A PLAT STANDPOINT AND FROM A SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENT STANDPOINT FROM OUR ELMO THERE ARE QUITE A LOT OF UTILITY REQUIREMENTS THAT COME INTO PLAY THAT DON'T ALWAYS PUT ON THE PLAT BUT WE WANT TO BE CONSIDERED SO FIRE HYDRANTS ARE ONE OF THEM, STORMWATER IS ONE OF THEM OF COURSE WATER AND SEWER SO A LOT OF REALLY GOOD I WOULD SAY BEHIND THE SCENES WITH THE FAMILY CONVERSATION CAN HAPPEN BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO A SURVEYOR OR YOU'RE PLOTTING STEP OKAY STUDY NUMBER ONE IS WORKING OUT THAT FIRE HYDRANT CONFIGURATION TO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S THEIR MAIN I DON'T WANT CALL IT AN OBSTACLE BUT THEIR MAIN NEXT STEP THAT THEY NEED TO COORDINATE TO GET APPROVAL ON THEIR FINAL PLAT AVERAGE COST OF A FIRE HYDRANT. I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE PSC BUT I HAVE HEARD IT'S MY ROUGH SWAG NUMBER BEING AN ENGINEER IS 4 TO 6000 THAT THAT'S FROM THE SOUTH END PSC A ROUGH APPROXIMATION I THINK THIS IS ON THE NORTH END SO THAT WOULD BE HILTON HEAD AND I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY ARE ABOUT THE SAME SOMEWHERE IN THE SAME BALLPARK I GUESS AND THAT'S WHERE AGAIN WHETHER YOU'RE IN THEIR DESIGN STUDIO PHASE OR YOU HAVE YOUR ACTIVE APPLICATION, YOUR CASE MANAGER CAN HELP CONNECT YOU TO THE UTILITY AND REALLY SHOULD ALREADY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE PSC GOING AND I THINK HE DOES HAVE IT GOING WITH THE APC AND WE CERTAINLY WISH IT IS FAR HYDRANT COST YES AND I DO KNOW THAT WORKING WITH THE FIRE CHIEF THAT WE WE TRY AS HARD AS POSSIBLE TO SAY OKAY I THINK WE NEED 500 TO 1000 FEET. WHERE'S THE FURTHEST FOAM GOING TO BE? AND THEN WE TRY TO WE TO GET AS REASONABLE AS WE CAN WHERE WE STILL ARE PROVIDING SAFE SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE HAVING LOTS AND THESE SUBDIVISIONS WITHOUT BEING OVERLY RESTRICTIVE. BUT I WILL GET WITH THE CASE MANAGER ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY'VE LANDED WITH THAT AT SOME POINT BUT ANY FUNDS TO HELP THEM PAY FOR AND IT'S A GOOD QUESTION I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION AND SO THE ANSWER THAT I WOULD GIVE IS REALLY AN ANSWER BUT I CERTAINLY ANTICIPATE IN DEVELOPMENT PREPARATION MIGHT BRING TO THE TABLE ITEMS LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OUR HYDRANTS PARTICULAR I CAN LEARN ABOUT PEOPLE THEIR PROPERTY OR THE CORPORATION WILL HAVE ANSWER SORRY MY GOD IT IS IT IS IT'S ON THE LATEST ON IT YEAH I NEED

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WE'LL MAKE SURE TO GET THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CDC IN FRONT OF THE TASK FORCE SHORTLY. RIGHT. AND MAYBE TO THE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY THE AND THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA HE CAN ATTEND THE THE LIBRARY UCB WE'LL TRY THAT TO AND HOPEFULLY OUR NEXT TASK FORCE MEETING YES YES YES GREAT GREAT DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT CASE STUDY IS UNDER CORRECTIONS REQUIRED.

THEY HAVE QUITE A FEW STAFF COMMENTS. SO I WAS GOING THROUGH THEM AND I WAS GOING THROUGH THEM WITH THE CASE MANAGER AS WELL. THEY HAVE ADDRESSING INCONSISTENCIES. SO THIS IS DISCUSSION THE FAMILY I DO WANT TO KEEP THEIR I DO WANT TO RESPECT THEIR PRIVACY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WE HAVE SOME COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY ASSESSOR OFFICE THAT NEEDS TO THAT IS BETWEEN THE CASE MANAGER AND THE FAMILY.

I THAT HE IS WORKING ON IT WITH THEM AND THEN AS STATED IN THE ALAMO IF WERE TO EVENTUALLY SELL THE PROPERTY ACCESS NEED TO BE INSTALLED AND I THINK THAT'S AN AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT TO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMMUNICATE ACCESS DOES NOT NEED TO BE RIGHT AWAY THERE'S JUST CERTAIN DOORS AND WINDOWS LIKE SELLING YOUR PROPERTY THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE ACCESS TO THEN BE INSTALLED FOR THE NEW OWNER. THERE ARE SOME LANDSCAPING PLAN REQUIREMENTS AND THAT'S AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT THAT I HOPE WE CAN DISCUSS HERE SHORTLY.

AND THEN AS IS SUMMARIZED YOU RE ADDRESSING COMPONENT IS THE MOST CHALLENGING OF THIS APPLICATION AND AND THAT'S COMING FROM THEIR CASE MANAGER SO CASE STUDY NUMBER ONE HERE IS THE DRAFT PLAT AND SUBDIVISION TYPICALLY THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT STILL EXIST LIKE IT SIX FIVE OR MORE LOFTS REQUIRE A 30 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THIS HERE FOR FIRE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TURN AROUND ON BUT WE HAVE REDUCED ACCESS SETBACKS REDUCED ADJACENT SETBACKS, REDUCED BUFFERS AND THEN I BELIEVE I'M NOT THE CASE MANAGER BUT I BELIEVE THE FAMILY INTENDED FOR THE PARCELS TO BE EQUIVALENT AS POSSIBLE WHICH IS STANDARD TO WHAT WE SEE AND THEN CASE STUDY NUMBER TWO THIS ONE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT SO WE ARE NOT THE PARCEL EQUALLY HERE BOTH ATTRACT A AND BE THE MAJOR CHANGES SEE HERE IS TO THE RIGHT IS TRACT B AND THEN THERE'S TWO ACCESSES HERE AND THIS IS WHERE WITH FOR COUNTY WE NEED TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ADDRESSING BUT THAT'S JUST A PAPERWORK EXERCISE AND I KNOW THE CASE MANAGER IS ON IT FOR THIS ONE SO HE'S ON IT FOR ALL OF THEM BUT SO WITH THAT THE NEXT THREE SLIDES HAVE A TON OF INFORMATION THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION IN 2021 AND I THINK DURING THIS DISCUSSION WE CAN COME BACK TO THESE TABLES WE NEED TO BECAUSE THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED IMPROVE ON.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER EVERYTHING OH CAN YOU SEE MY MOUSE NOW? MINIMUM PLANTING REQUIREMENTS THIS IS A BIG AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT.

WHEN WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THESE APPLICATIONS WE WANT TO MAKE THAT WE'RE GIVING GOOD FEEDBACK TO APPLICANTS AS YOU SEE IN THE CURRENT AND THE PREVIOUS SECTION THE ALAMO THEY WERE VERY VERY SPECIFIC BY BUFFER TYPE AND BY OPTION AND WE CAN DEFINITELY MINIMIZE THOSE BUT.

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OKAY. I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING SORRY TO JUMP IN THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT AND ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CURSOR NOW IS THAT THIS IS WHAT BEFORE THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND SUBDIVISION WERE ADOPTED THE CURRENT LMO REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH SETBACKS AND BUFFERS AND ACCESS AND HOW WHAT WAS ADOPTED IS LESSER REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE SETBACKS FOR THOSE BUFFERS AND FOR THE MINIMUM PLANTING REQUIREMENT WHAT WAS ADOPTED DID IMPLEMENT AS WAS STATED ON THESE CHARTS THAT YES NOW THE BOTH FOR THE COMPOUNDS AND FOR THE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS THE ACCESS SETBACKS BUFFERS REDUCED FOR BOTH APPLICATION TYPES AND SO HOW THEY WITH THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS IS WHAT THESE CHARTS MEANT TO EXPLAIN.

AND SO THESE ARE CHARTS THAT LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH DESIGN STUDIO WITH FAMILIES AND WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROS AND CONS OF UTILIZING EITHER THE ABBREVIATED DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW PROCESS VERSUS A FAMILY COMPOUND OR WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF THE MINOR SUBDIVISION PROCESS THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

SO WE MAP OUT REGULARLY OKAY IF YOU WERE GOING TO GO THROUGH A MINOR SUBDIVISION THESE WOULD BE SETBACKS AND ACCESS REQUIREMENTS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A FAMILY SUBDIVISION IT COULD LIKE THIS AND SO WE REGULARLY DO THAT EXERCISE JUST TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCES AND MAKE SURE THE FAMILIES UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS AND SOME OF THE STRINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH THOSE WHICH I THINK ARE. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN SOME OF THE OTHER SLIDES YEAH. SO YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY FOR THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND I FORGET WHAT THOSE QUALIFICATIONS ARE I HAVE THESE FOR YOU SAME FAMILY 56 LOCATED IN A STORE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT GIVES YOU MORE DENSITY YOU CAN PUT MORE HOUSES ON THE PROPERTY PERHAPS BECAUSE OF THE SMALLER SETBACKS ETC. AND BUT YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY THEN WHEN YOU GET THOSE PROPERTIES SUBDIVIDED SELL THEM TO ANYBODY AND SO MORE THAN QUALIFICATIONS BECAUSE ALREADY SUBDIVIDED IT SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT ONCE YOU HAVE SUBDIVISION AND YOU WANT TO COME IN AND DEVELOP LET'S SAY A SINGLE FAMILY HOME YOU'D STILL HAVE TO COME IN FOR A DEVELOPMENT REVIEW OR AN APPLICATION YOU CONSTRUCT. THIS IS AFTER YOUR FAMILY APPLICATION IS APPROVED AND THEN SO IF YOU WEROT BE OF THE E FAMILY OR LEGALLY ADOPTED OR YOU KNOW OWNED SINCE 56 THOSE SETBACKS AND BUFFERS WOULD NO LONGER RIGHT.

SO THE WAY IT WAS DRAFTED WHICH IS GOING TO BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE DIFFICULTY I'LL SAY IS THAT IF YOU WERE TO SELL YOUR PROPERTY THEN THE REDUCED SETBACK BUFFERS AND ACCESS ARE RESCINDED AND YOU NEED TO REPLANT IT AT THE REGULAR SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS SO SO THAT IS IS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT WITH THE FAMILIES THAT ARE DOING FAMILY SUBDIVISION THAT IF THERE IS A SALE OUTSIDE OF THESE REQUIREMENTS THAT MEET THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY THEN IT THEN IT CHANGES THAT APPROVAL THE HOUSE IS ALREADY BUILT WELL WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED THAT BUT WE WILL WE WILL WE WILL MAP THAT OUT BUT CERTAINLY IT MAY BE THAT THE OTHER NON DEVELOPED LOTS GET ADJUSTED WITH THE SETBACKS IN BUFFERS AND ACCESS THEY'RE REQUIRED BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I THINK WHEN WE WITH THE GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS IS AN AREA THAT THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT FROM AN IMPLEMENTATION STANDPOINT IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO ADMINISTER SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THAT FURTHER WITH THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP AND OUR NEW CODE CONSULTANTS TO TO MAP OUT HOW THAT COULD UNFOLD. BUT THAT IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADOPTED.

OKAY SO THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE CODE THAT IF A PROPERTY WERE TO BE SOLD TO SOMEONE THAT

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AND I WANTED TO ALSO YOU'D MENTIONED THAT THAT THESE APPLICATION TYPES ALLOW MORE DENSITY NOW IT DOESN'T ALLOW ANY MORE DENSITY. IT DOES ALLOW THE REDUCED SETBACKS AND BUFFERS MORE LAND AREA THAT YOU HAVE DEVELOPABLE AREA BUT IT IS NOT A CHANGE IN THE DENSITIES THAT ARE ALLOWED BUT NOT MORE DENSITY DISCUSSION COLUMNS AND SO MORE I THINK UNDER DISTRICT PLANNING IS CORRECT CORRECT. SO WHILE THE DEVELOPABLE AREA THE AREA THAT YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT IS LIKE IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT OF MORE HOMES THAN WHAT THE DIVISION ALLOWS. OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION SO TOWN PARTICIPANT PROPERTY WOULD THAT APPLY THE TOWN AS WELL IN TERMS OF FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES OR IF THEY DECIDE TO DEVELOP IT LATER OR SORRY HOW WOULD THAT THE LANGUAGE HERE WOULD APPLY TO THE TOWN IF THEY THEIR PROPERTY FROM AS PROPERTY FAMILIES OR THE TOWN WOULDN'T MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS SO THE TOWN WOULD NOT DEVELOP UNDER A FAMILY COMPOUND A FAMILY SUBDIVISION APPLICATION TYPE AND ONE THAT NO THE TOWN WOULD NOT THE TOWN WOULD DEVELOP UNDER WHATEVER USE THE PROPERTY BE PER THE REQUIREMENTS OF WHATEVER WAS BEING SO MULTIFAMILY SINGLE FAMILY YES AND JUST LAST COMMENT I THINK IF AN APPLICATION TO COME IN TODAY WHERE THERE WAS LET'S SAY A NEWER HOME THAT BUILT UNDER THESE FAMILY COMPOUND FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND THEN THAT WAS SOLD TO SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS. IT IT WOULD BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS BUT I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE HANDLED AS AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMITY IF WERE TO REDO THE HOME THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE UNDER THE NEW SUBDIVISION PLATTED BUT IF THE HOME WERE TO STAY THEN IT WOULD BE AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMITY UNTIL IT WAS REPLACED SO THEY WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN UNTIL HOME IS REPLACED. WE WOULDN'T MAKE ANYONE TAKE A HOME. OKAY SO ROUNDING OUT FROM THE TABLES WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY WORKING BUT AGAIN I WANT TO FOCUS ON WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE, WHAT WE CAN BRING TO THE CODE WRITER AND WE'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON SOME VERY GOOD ITEMS HERE BUT BASED ON LANGUAGE THESE SWEEPING IS BY OH BASED ON THE LMA LANGUAGE AND HOW WE IMPLEMENT THESE APPLICATIONS THEY ARE FAST TRACKED SO IF WE GET A FAMILY COMPOUND FAMILY SUBDIVISION APPLICATION THEY ARE BROUGHT TO THE TOP OF A CASE MANAGER'S.

OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DELINEATED MAKES THE APPLICATION PROCESS EVEN EASIER WHEN HAVE APPLICATIONS COME IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE FUNNELED UNDER THE PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS AND TO IMPACT FEES AND THEN DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS TO OVERALL LAYOUTS I WOULD SAY SUBDIVISION AND FAMILY COMPOUND FROM OUR DESIGN STUDIO PROCESS AND WE WE ARE PLANNING ON TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THAT PROCESS AS WELL. OKAY.

SO ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS THIS IS NOT EVERYTHING BUT FROM A STAFF LEVEL A CASE MANAGER REVIEW PERSPECTIVE THESE ARE SOME OF THE AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT AND I PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN. I WANT TO ADD TO THIS LIST BUT COORDINATION WITH LOCAL FOODS WE TOUCHED ON SOME OF THE FIRE HYDRANT ISSUES. THIS ALSO SPEAKS TO SEWER AND WATER CONNECTION. WE REALLY NEED TO BRING THEM IN THE DISCUSSION AS A PLAN REVIEWER WE DON'T THAT ENOUGH AND WE'RE WORKING TO IMPROVE THAT PROCESS FOR OF OUR PLAN REVIEW TYPES SO THAT DEPENDS ON CONSTRUCTION AND PHASING AND WHEN THE FAMILY IS PLANNING TO CONSTRUCT STORMWATER AND SITE DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS. SO WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THEM THE TURNAROUND AND THE WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED MUCH ON STORMWATER BUT SOME OF THESE SITES HAVE NATURAL STORMWATER FEATURES SO WORKING WITH FAMILIES AT THAT THAT EARLY PHASE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EITHER TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE PLAN FOR HOW STORMWATER WILL BE MANAGED ON THE SITE OR WE HAVE A STORMWATER EASEMENT TO HANDLE THAT THIS A NEW NEWER ONE THAT

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IT WASN'T A CONVERSATION BUT I THINK GOING INTO PHASE FIVE THIS WILL BE SOMETHING WE ALL SHOULD REALLY TALK ABOUT AND DISCUSS ESPECIALLY THOSE ZONING WHEN WE TALKED AT THE BEGINNING AND WE SAW THE LIGHT COMMERCIAL MULTIPLE ZONING TYPES WHAT DOES THAT FOR TOWNHOMES OR APARTMENTS ARE THESE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS INTERESTED IN IS THAT ARE THESE THAT COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY HAVE AN APPETITE FOR SO JUST SOMETHING TO PONDER THERE AND THEN CLARITY IS NEEDED ON BUFFERS BEFORE MOVE ON SO THE COMMERCIAL MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS YES. IS THIS THE PLACE WHERE THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE WHO OPERATE A HOME BUSINESS? I THINK IT'S AN AREA FOR OPPORTUNITY THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO PHASE IV I THINK SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND I KNOW BUSINESSES HAVE TO BE WITHIN REASON BUT IN SOME OF OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT WAYS PEOPLE USE THEIR PROPERTY ESPECIALLY IN CULTURE FOR PRESERVATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

THIS WAS ALSO ADDED BECAUSE THE ZONING DISTRICTS THERE ARE A LOT OF MIXED USE DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS THAT MEET THE NEEDS IF THE USE IS TO BE COMMERCIAL AND NOT SINGLE FAMILY AND THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO PROCESS A SUBDIVISION FOR WHATEVER THE UNDERLYING ZONING USES ARE THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHERE THAT PARCEL IS LOCATED SO AGAIN RIGHT NOW WHAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND THROUGH THE REVIEW PUBLIC PROCESS WAS THAT THIS WAS A FAMILY SUBDIVISION FOR A SINGLE FAMILY. HOWEVER AS YOU CAN SEE APPLICATION TYPES ARE ALLOWED IN THOSE MIXED USE DISTRICTS WHERE COMMERCIAL USES AND ACTIVITIES ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TOUCH THAT FAMILIES WERE KNOWN FOR THEIR CERTAIN ECONOMIC TYPES AND I THINK KEEPING THAT CULTURE WITH WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THESE APPLICATION TYPES IS IMPORTANT. SO THIS SAID THIS IS NOT THE END ANY MEANS OF THIS CONVERSATION? YEAH, YOU AND ACCESS ISSUES JUST A TOUCH AND KIND OF NOT THE LAST AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT BUT ANOTHER ONE IS THIS IS TYPICALLY A TIMING THING WE HAVE A WE HAVE A STREET NAME PROCESS AND ADDRESSING THIS IS JUST AN INTERNAL WORKING AN APPLICANT I KNOW AS THE CASE MANAGER FOR SOME OF THAT WE TRIED TO MINIMIZE ANY CONFLICTS WHETHER BE A NEW ACCESS ON A STATE OR COUNTY ROAD BECAUSE THOSE ENCROACHMENT PERMITS CAN BE TIME CONSUMING AND UNNECESSARY IF A FAMILY ALREADY HAS AN ACCESS ROAD WE TRY TO UTILIZE EXISTING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND THEN SOMETHING I DIDN'T NOTE ON HERE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS TOO THAT WE WE SPOKE ABOUT LIGHTLY IS LEGAL COORDINATION FOR ACCESS EASEMENTS, STORMWATER EASEMENTS.

I THINK HAVING THIS BE AN EITHER ON THE APPLICATION TYPE OR THE APPLICATION FORM THAT COULD BE AN AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE WORKED COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE THAT EVERYTHING IS BUTTONED UP FOR EASEMENTS AND ACCESS AND ALL THAT. SO WITH THAT I'D LOVE TO OPEN IT UP FOR MORE DISCUSSION.

I'M YOU KNOW I HAVE NOTES ON HERE FOR BUSINESSES FOR RESELLING YOU KNOW HOW TO ADMINISTER THAT THE ADMINISTRATION OF THAT FROM CODE COORDINATION WITH THE CDC ASSISTANCE COSTLY ITEMS WHETHER IT'S UTILITIES OR ACCESS OR ENGINEERING SERVICES THERE'S THERE'S A LOT TO DISCUSS HERE. OKAY QUESTIONS PLEASE WITH THE ACCESS ISSUES EXCUSE ME.

I'M I'VE JUST BEEN ON THE WE HAD AND MAYBE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES CAN HELP ME WITH HISTORICALLY AND ACCESS INDEPENDENT IDENTIFY THAT MAY NOT MATCH WITH WHAT THE TOWN OR THE COUNTY HAS FOR ITS RECORDS WHAT YOU JUST SAID HE WAS MAYBE TRY TO WORK OUT YOUR BEST PLACE TO PUT THOSE ACCESS AND OR YOU HAVE TO ADVISE AS EXACTLY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE SO I THINK TO

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I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISCUSS THOSE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND THEN TRY TO MARRY THEM UP WITH WHAT THE FAMILY'S HOPING TO DO. I HAVE A QUESTION IN EVERYTHING AN INTERVENTION KIND OF INDIRECT RANGE IT IN THE REWRITE THE ULTIMATE YES A THE SITUATION WE HAVE FAMILY AS IN DENSITY NOW RIGHT YOU WOULD QUALIFY FOR A DIFFERENT DENSITY AND THEN YOU WITH MAYBE LOWER IT A FAMILY INCOME AND CURRENT DENSITY YOU KNOW AS WRITTEN FAMILY SUBDIVISION CANNOT BE AMENDED SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE HURDLES RIGHT NOW WITH THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IS THAT IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ENTITLEMENTS THAT ARE ALLOWED ON THOSE PROPERTIES THAT THIS KIND OF ONE ONE OPPORTUNITY KIND OF APPLICATION SO THAT'S DEFINITELY AN AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT IT'S ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD SINCE THESE APPLICATION HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ON THE BOOKS IS THAT IF THERE IS THIS ABOUT A POSSIBLE OVERLAY OR ABOUT WHAT KIND OF DENSITIES BE CALIBRATED THROUGH THE DISTRICT PLANNING PROCESS, WHY WOULD WE SUBDIVIDE NOW AT THE CURRENT DENSITIES WHEN WE SHOULD WAIT FOR THIS OTHER ENTITLEMENTS IF IF THAT'S WHAT WHAT OCCURS WITH THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS AN AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT AS WELL THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT BECAUSE WITH MOST SUBDIVISION APPLICATION TYPES IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD AMEND OVER TIME IF IF A SITUATION CHANGES SO BUT JUST JUST KIND OF LIKE THE PROCESS WHEN WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO A MEETING WITH OUR NEW CODE CONSULTANT THE TEAM WITH THE CURRENT CODE FOR FAMILY COMPOUND SUBDIVISION HAVE IDENTIFIED AND HIGHLIGHTED AREAS WHERE EITHER CLARIFICATION IS NEEDED OR WHERE PROCESSES MAYBE AREN'T WORKING AND AGAIN WE ARE HOPING TO MAP OUT ADDITIONAL AREAS IMPROVEMENT THAT WE WOULD THEN SAY OKAY WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS, WE'VE PROCESSED SEVERAL APPLICATIONS GOSH THESE ONE SIT ON HOLD BECAUSE OF REASONS A, B AND C OR SOME DON'T MAKE APPLICATION TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE THE BARRIERS EVEN OUTSIDE OF MAKING AN APPLICATION AND SO WE WANT TO PROVIDE MUCH INPUT UPFRONT SO THAT NUMBER ONE WE CAN MAKE THESE APPLICATION TYPES BETTER AND NUMBER TWO WE CAN STREAMLINE THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND GIVE THE CODE WRITING ZONE AS MUCH INFORMATION TO HELP US MAKE THESE PROCESSES BETTER AND MORE USABLE FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSE. SO THAT IS OUR COMMITMENT TO THE PROCESS AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE NO LIKE REMOVAL OF THESE APPLICATION TYPES BUT JUST BETTERMENT OF THESE APPLICATION TYPES IN THE REWRITE OF THE OTHER PART OF THE QUESTION I GUESS MAYBE FOR THE CONSULTANT WOULD COVER WELL THERE'S NO PROCESS FOR APPEALING AN APPLICATION TO THE QUESTION THAT WE ASKED BEFORE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW THAT INTO LIKE A DESIGN AND REVIEW BOARD OR IS IT GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO THE STATE WITHIN THIS PROCESS? YEAH, I HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR THAT. I THINK THAT THAT GOES THROUGH OUR STANDARD APPEAL PROCESS FOR ANY DECISION AND THEN THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE BOARD THAT MAY BE A WAY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

YEAH AND WE'LL REVIEW IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT IF THERE IS A DECISION WHAT'S THE APPEAL LIKE WE'LL MAP OUT YOU KNOW GOING FORWARD WHEN WE'RE IN THE ACTUAL REWRITE PROCESS HAVE SOME SOMETHING OF SUBSTANCE TO BRING TO THE TASK FORCE ON WHERE WE'RE HEADED AND IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO NAVIGATE AN APPROVAL OR HOW TO NAVIGATE A DECISION THAT WANT TO APPEAL WHAT IS THE ROAD MAP TO DO SO YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS TO BE KIND OF HAVE A

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YEAH WE HAVE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION. OH ABSOLUTELY WE CAN HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA NEXT MONTH AS WELL TO KIND OF NOW THAT WE DID THE OVERVIEW CAN DOVE RIGHT INTO TALKING MORE ABOUT AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT WE CAN BETTER MAP OUT WHAT WE HEARD TODAY AND HAVE IT ON A SCREEN AS A STARTING POINT AND TO THINK THAT LIKE WHAT WE DID BEFORE AND WE COULD CERTAINLY ENGAGE SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDER AND THE COMMUNITY AS WELL TO GET SOME INPUT AND NOT REALLY WAIT TILL THE MEETING. OKAY WE CAN DO THAT AGAIN THE TIME AS WELL OR COULD WE LIKE DO A WORKSHOP AND NOT A NOT OFFICIAL MEETING AN UNOFFICIAL WORKSHOP WHERE WE COULD ASK FREELY LEARN AND LEARN FROM OUR NEIGHBORS AND AT A POSSIBILITY YOUR A PUBLIC BODY SO WE WOULD TO HAVE IT AS A PUBLIC MEETING BUT WE COULD DO A WORKSHOP STYLE IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR INTEREST WAS SO I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHERS THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG PRODUCTION THAT THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS WE HAVE FOR OUR MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN KIND OF WITH HERE I COULD TRY TO GET AHEAD IT FOR THE MEETING, MAKE THE MEETINGS MORE FRUITFUL. PEOPLE ARE MORE EDUCATED. THEY COME WITH EDUCATED QUESTIONS. YEAH I THINK CHAIR YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT US MEETING AGAIN WITH THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP FLESHING THE AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THEN BRINGING THIS SLIDE WITH THE RESULTS OF THAT MEETING BACK TO THE TASK FORCE IN DECEMBER. SO THE TASK FORCE CAN HAVE ONE MORE LOOK AT IT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING? RIGHT.

I WOULD SUGGEST AND I'M OPEN TO ANOTHER BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS CURIOUS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE INFORMATION ANY TIME LIKE PHONE CALLS. THIS IS JUST TO REITERATE POINT WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE MEETING TO ASK QUESTIONS. OKAY THEN I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION AND THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHERE THE EMPHASIS ISSUES WASN'T AS HIGH AS IT IS IN AMERICA RIGHT ABOUT THAT IT IS LESSER BUFFER REQUIREMENTS.

SO THE PLANTING REQUIREMENTS LESS THAN LIKE A REGULAR ABBREVIATED PLAN REVIEW OR MINOR SUBDIVISION. WHAT IS STATED HERE IS THAT WHILE IT WAS APPROVED MINIMUM PLANTING REQUIREMENTS WAS THE VERBIAGE AS IT WAS APPROVED IT DIDN'T CORRELATE WITH A BUFFER TYPE IN OUR BUFFER IN THE CODE AND SO FROM IT'S MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE COMPONENT IS THAT IF YOU'VE GOT A REDUCED BUFFER OF ONLY FIVE FEET OR WHAT CAN REALLY BE PLANTED WITHIN FIVE FEET IF IT'S STILL THE SAME OR TYPE B BUFFER PLANTING SCHEDULE IT PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO FIT OR REMAIN HEALTHY. AND SO WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING ON THAT CLARITY NEEDED WAS THAT IT LIKELY NEEDS A NEW AMENDED TYPE THAT WOULD APPLY TO THESE APPLICATIONS THAT IS A MUCH MORE REDUCED PLANTING PLAN REQUIREMENT AND GIVEN OUR VOLUME OF OF REQUESTS FOR FAMILY COMPOUND ASSISTANCE AND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION ASSISTANCE CAN WE GLEAN FROM THAT THAT THIS IS REALLY CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT TO HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOODS OR MAYBE NOT SO OR IS IT TOO SOON TO TELL? A LOT OF THESE ARE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE VERY FEW OF THESE SO GOOD QUESTION.

OVERSEEING THE DESIGN STUDIO OF APPLICATIONS OR INQUIRIES I'D THESE MAKE UP ABOUT 10% OR LESS OF THOSE INQUIRIES. SO WE'VE HAD 11 I BELIEVE APPLICATIONS FOR BOTH TYPES IT'S IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF THINGS LIKE YOU'VE MENTIONED COMMUNITY MIGHT BE WAITING FOR PHASE FIVE CHANGES AGAIN I THINK THAT CONVERSATION IS TOTALLY OPEN.

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY SPECULATIONS BUT I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE EVEN IF SOMEONE IS UNSURE THAT THEY WANT TO COME FORWARD WITH A FAMILY SUB OR FAMILY COMBAT APPLICATION, PLEASE COME FORWARD WITH DESIGN STUDIO BECAUSE THAT IS A FREE SERVICE AND AND WE WILL WORK THROUGH A LOT OF THESE ISSUES AND TRY TO RESOLVE THOSE COMMENTS BEFORE YOU EVEN START THESE APPLICATIONS. THAT'S ALL I CAN SPEAK TO ON THIS.

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YEAH PLEASE ANDRE WAIT. SO APPRECIATE PRESENTATION SO ONE CRITICAL AREA OF IMPROVEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE UP THERE I THINK IN ALL MEETINGS IS THERE'S A THREE YEAR BAN ON FAMILIES BEING ABLE TO SELL OR SORT OF AT LEAST AT LEAST AN OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY THEIR LAND IF THEY DO A FAMILY SUBDIVISION. SO I THINK FOR SOME THAT IS A REASON THAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING. RIGHT. SO IT SORT OF CONTINUES SORT OF TO TO FORCE FAMILIES TO IN SOME INSTANCES SELL BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY EVEN IF THERE ARE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT SORT OF LIVE HERE THAT WANT TO STAY ON LAND AND FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT FROM HERE THAT WANT TO MONETIZE THE LAND ARE WILLING TO GIVE THE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS HERE THEIR LAND. THEY CAN'T UNDER THIS BUT THEN OFTENTIMES HAPPENS IS PARTITION ACTION OR HEIRS PROPERTIES THEY HAVE TO SELL.

SO I THINK THE BIGGEST OF THE BIGGEST AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT UNDER FAMILY SUBDIVISION IS THE REMOVAL OF THAT THREE YEAR CONDITION ON BEING ABLE TO SELL A LOT THAT SUBDIVIDED RIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S TWO SIDES OF IT THERE'S THOSE THAT WANT TO SELL THEIR ASSET AND THERE ARE THOSE THAT WANT TO PRESERVE THE ASSET. SO I THINK SOME THE SOME OF THE AREAS PROPERTY SALES THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST 1015 YEARS PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN A PARTIAL SALE FOR FAMILY MEMBERS LIVING ON SITES COULD ACTUALLY GET A PORTION SO THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW CAN'T DO THAT SO AND I KNOW THAT'S WHY WE ADOPTED THE SUBDIVISION IN THE PAPER SUBDIVISION SO PEOPLE COULD BE ABLE TO KEEP OR TRADE LAND AS THEY SEE FIT.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP SO I THINK THAT EVERY TIME WE DISCUSS THIS LIKE THAT HAS TO BE ON THERE. SO ALL OF THAT COULD BE YEAH.

YEAH. IS THAT IS THAT BE SOMETHING THAT THE OWNER IS GOING TO LOOK AT? YES. SO I WILL ADD THAT TO THE LIST AND. I WILL START WITH AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT AND I THINK THAT STAKEHOLDER MEETING THAT WE SHOULD SCHEDULE AGAIN WILL BRING THAT WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE LIST AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO ADD MORE TO IT AND I CAN EVEN IDENTIFY WHETHER IT'S OKAY TO APPROVAL LIKE HOW WE IMPLEMENT THE APPLICATION OR IF IT'S THE CODE SPECIFIC CHANGE AND THAT AND THAT JUST THINK IS LIKE A COMMUNITY ADVOCATING PROVISION .

THE CODE WRITER COMING IN ON THAT KNOW HOW THAT IMPACTS US AS NATIVE ISLANDERS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT YOU KNOW CONDITIONS OUR FAMILIES ARE IN AND THEY WILL KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE AIR SALES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED OR THINGS THAT ARE NOT HAPPENING NOW OF THAT THREE YEAR PROVISION AND WE HAVE TO PUSH IN THIS PUSH AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN PUSH THE COUNCIL IF WE WANT TO SEE THAT. SO HOW OFTEN IS THAT THAT OVER THREE YEARS AND THAT PREVIOUS LIKE THIS IS THE FIRST THAT'S IN THE FIRST YEAR I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS FIVE THEN THAT WAS LIKE A COMPROMISE AT THE TIME OF THIS.

SO HISTORICALLY SPEAKING WHEN WE LOOKED A

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.